Mark Slapinski

00:00:00.160 Mark Carney is in serious trouble. The trouble is so serious that even the CBC is turning on him.

00:00:06.320 Yesterday I showed you a video of some of his propagandists turning on him.

00:00:10.160 Now I'm going to show you a video of even more propagandists turning on him.

00:00:14.240 Let's watch it together and then stick around to the end for some commentary.

00:00:17.840 We're back in the House of Commons this week and with them a big return for the

00:00:22.000 Conservatives and a big resignation for the Liberals.

00:00:37.920 Christopher Freeland isn't the only Minister from the Justin Trudeau era to soon be leaving

00:00:41.920 government entirely. Former Justice Minister David Lamedi will be leaving his job as Principal

00:00:46.240 Secretary to the Prime Minister to serve as Ambassador to the United Nations and Lamedi

00:00:51.120 confirmed to the host of CBC's The House podcast, Catherine Cullen, that two other former ministers

00:00:57.040 are also on their way out. People have different arcs and I think this is simply a matter of

00:01:06.880 a few senior people, Bill and Jonathan, Christia, myself, I was already out, but deciding to move

00:01:13.920 on to other challenges and other ways to serve Canada. Now Lamedi is talking about former Defence

00:01:20.720 Minister Bill Blair, who is set to be appointed High Commissioner to the United Kingdom, according

00:01:24.880 to multiple sources, and former Energy Minister Jonathan Wilkinson, who we're told is being

00:01:28.880 considered for a European diplomatic posting potentially in Brussels. We're going to talk

00:01:33.200 about all of this with our party insiders. Greg McEachern is a former Liberal Ministerial

00:01:36.720 Advisor, Fred Delori is a former Conservative Campaign Manager, and Melanie Richet is a former

00:01:41.280 Communications Director for the NDP. A lot happened this first week back. Greg, how many more Liberals are going to

00:01:50.160 leave for other jobs? What do you make of this departure? It's only been like five months? It's

00:01:54.720 almost six months since the election? I have the number here. Okay, thank you. You got a list?

00:02:00.880 Yeah, I mean, it's hard not to be cynical. I mean, I wish Christia Freeland well.

00:02:07.840 Anyone who has served in Parliament as long as she has and those roles, it deserves recognition.

00:02:16.800 But I do think of the people that, you know, did the Cabinet vetting and preparing and all of those

00:02:21.200 things, and the people who didn't make it into Cabinet first time around. You know, the weekend

00:02:26.720 that prior to the Prime Minister announcing his Cabinet, there was a lot of speculation. You know,

00:02:33.840 I would, I'm not a journalist, but you know, I had a triple source that Freeland would not be in Cabinet,

00:02:39.920 and then she was. You know, she has the ability now to say that she served in the two most recent

00:02:47.280 Liberal Prime Minister in their Cabinet. But I, you know, I do kind of wonder what the point of all

00:02:56.000 of this was. Yeah, well, look, Fred, 10 years in politics is a long time, right? And so you can kind

00:03:01.120 of understand that naturally. But, you know, an election in the 10th year seems like a natural

00:03:05.280 inflection point to bow out. But you know, it is a series of seats that are now going to become

00:03:09.600 available in Parliament as well, the Liberals in a minority position. We're looking at the premise

00:03:13.760 here that she's leaving on her own. She is not. She's been pushed out.

00:03:18.000 You think? Absolutely. Look, all summer long, there were rumors that she was not working well with

00:03:23.600 this government, with the new Prime Minister, and that she was on her way out soon. We, you know,

00:03:27.680 it was one of the most rampant rumors in Ottawa for the last three or four months. Like Greg said,

00:03:33.040 there was a surprise that she was even in Cabinet to begin with. So, like, this is not her decision.

00:03:39.120 She is being pushed out. You know, I was trying to think of an analogy here. It looked like, you know,

00:03:43.440 are there cracks forming in Cardi's foundation of his government? And now I'm wondering maybe

00:03:48.480 he just built his government on top of the crumbling Trudeau Foundation that is in pieces.

00:03:53.440 You know, we've got Lamedi. Obviously, he's a staffer now, not a member of Parliament anymore.

00:03:58.320 But you have these other two former cabinet ministers who are, looks like, as he confirmed,

00:04:03.040 leaving the House soon. You have, you know, there's other names of Trudeau-era cabinet ministers

00:04:08.000 who may not be fitting in well. There's Melanie Jolie and Stephen Guibault. Those names are out

00:04:13.120 there just as much as Freeland's. Right. And, you know, are they next?

00:04:17.120 Okay. I should say, for the record, people who are close to Freeland and work for Freeland said

00:04:22.320 she came to this conclusion herself, wanted to pass things like the One Canada economy legislation,

00:04:27.440 went to the Prime Minister in August, said she wanted to leave. And in the course of those

00:04:30.800 conversations, that's where this appointment to Ukraine emerged as an idea. So I'm just putting

00:04:36.160 that out there so I don't get hate mail. Beautiful spin.

00:04:39.120 Yeah, I'm just saying what, you know, they are saying. Mel, how do you view it? Is it as Fred

00:04:45.200 is putting it in demolition terms? Or is it, this is a different government than the Trudeau government,

00:04:51.920 and just people may want to find different things to do to make way for people who are more aligned with it?

00:04:57.120 Right. I definitely think it's a different government. But, you know, if Minister Freeland,

00:05:02.480 or Chrystia Freeland, didn't want to run again, I don't know why she ran for leader

00:05:06.240 last winter, if she wasn't going to stick around, right? Like those, those things are a bit bizarre,

00:05:11.760 and are hard to explain to Canadians if you weren't actually going to stick around for the full term.

00:05:17.760 And I would say a little bit weird to hear, you know, David Lamedi, as well as former ministers

00:05:24.480 Bill Blair and Jonathan Wilkinson out too. I don't, I don't know that that's necessarily a bad thing,

00:05:29.280 that this is a new government going to be doing things differently. And maybe some folks don't

00:05:33.520 necessarily fit in. But, but the other thing that's a little bit bizarre with, with David Lamedi is,

00:05:37.360 there was such big fanfare about, you know, he was kind of on the outs with Justin Trudeau,

00:05:41.680 he was being brought back in with Mark Carney. And, you know, less than six months later,

00:05:46.480 you're out again. So, so I don't know if this is chess, you know, growing pains of a new government,

00:05:51.280 I think we've said a few times around this table, around this table that I'm not sitting at right now,

00:05:55.680 that governing is very different than being, you know, the, the head boss or the, the person in

00:06:07.280 charge and having to deal with caucus, having to deal with cabinet, having to deal with people who

00:06:12.160 are also, you know, not necessarily have egos, but have a big background as well as a little bit more

00:06:17.600 challenging than perhaps being the, the, the top boss. And, and maybe this is just a sign of this also,

00:06:22.640 of not necessarily meshing well with folks or having different visions. And at the end of the

00:06:26.640 day, the prime minister is the prime minister. So his vision kind of supersedes the rest. So,

00:06:31.200 so I'm assuming this is kind of what we're seeing, but it is obviously disappointing to people in,

00:06:36.720 you know, the writings of, of Freeland, of Blair and of Wilkinson, because they, you know, just went

00:06:42.560 through an election. So we're going to be spending a lot of taxpayer dollars to, to redo that when it was

00:06:46.880 less than a year ago. So that's a little bit disappointing. Yeah. Well, you know, Greg, you know,

00:06:50.480 Mel makes an interesting point. Had Chrystia Freeland won, I doubt she'd be resigning now to,

00:06:55.440 to go work on the reconstruction of Ukraine, had she been successful as, as liberal leader.

00:07:00.400 But the, the situations with Blair and with Wilkinson, both left out of cabinet after holding

00:07:04.960 pretty senior roles. And, you know, Bill Blair was, was put out front and center to, to push the,

00:07:09.520 the tough on crime component of the liberal election platform. Is this just finding a useful

00:07:16.000 place for the specific skill sets? If it's not a cabinet as a reward, how, how should people view

00:07:20.320 this? Because again, the election was April 28th. Bill Blair first, Bill Blair was left out of cabinet

00:07:27.680 initially. And I'm sure he wasn't very happy about it, but Blair is used as an example of, didn't get

00:07:35.440 exactly what he wanted, but he did the work. He, you know, was a solid member of parliament. And then

00:07:42.960 as things change and some people don't work out, I can think of another example where somebody

00:07:48.160 complained bitterly, never ended up in cabinet. Bill Blair did a pretty good job. I talked to

00:07:52.800 friends of mine that, you know, have ties to CAF and, and they liked him. And he's, he's contributed

00:08:00.240 a lot. So I'm, I'm glad for that. There was something during the campaign with Wilkinson where I

00:08:05.680 thought he was off message with the prime minister. So perhaps that, you know, there was something there,

00:08:12.000 but there's also, this is a, there's been a huge change in terms of the MPs that are from British

00:08:17.120 Columbia and that may be as a part of it as well. I didn't comment in the first round about David

00:08:22.400 Lametti and I'd like to, because I'm a fan of his. I met him when he was parliamentary secretary

00:08:27.200 for international trade. And I worked with a lot of Canadian entrepreneurs. I thought he was

00:08:31.920 quiet and thoughtful. I saw him interview Erwin Kotler this year at an event and I was very impressed.

00:08:37.920 And as a liberal, I was very happy that he was going in and, and look, I'm probably not going

00:08:42.800 to make liberals happy here, but I have a view on loyalty where if you are just papering over the

00:08:49.120 cracks, you're not really helping. I think of that, that meme of Leslie Nielsen with the fireworks

00:08:55.120 factory on fire behind him and saying nothing to see here. You know, you know, he was brought in,

00:09:00.400 there was an interim principal secretary, as Mel said, there was a lot of fanfare about him coming in.

00:09:06.240 There was articles about dysfunction in the early days of the Kearney PMO. This was seen as a good

00:09:11.040 thing. So Mark Kearney's brand is a guy who runs organizations well and he's efficient. This does not

00:09:20.640 speak to that. And I also think of the number of public servants that I've worked with, civil

00:09:25.360 servants I've worked over the year that may have a certain view of partisanship and partisans have a

00:09:29.840 certain view of the bureaucracy. But if you do not like partisanship, then you get people in that

00:09:35.520 do. And I'm not sure that former members of parliament are the best choices to tell you how things

00:09:41.600 actually work on the Hill because they are surrounded by people who helped that happen. I'm, I think it's

00:09:48.000 time, you know, for the county government to take a good hard look. They were still trying to hire, you know,

00:09:53.680 senior roles very, very recently. They had a rough start. I think it's time for they have to take a good

00:09:59.520 look at that because people want the honeymoon to be over if you're opposing them. The polls are good,

00:10:05.040 but fix these things now and have big, honest conversations.

00:10:08.640 Okay. Yes. The Tom Pitfield was the interim parliamentary secretary, sorry, principal

00:10:13.680 secretary. David Lamedy brought in to be the permanent. Tom Pitfield remains. David Lamedy

00:10:17.200 goes to the UN to replace Bob Ray. So I guess it's, it's Tom Pitfield going, going forward.

00:10:24.560 While the liberal shuffling happens, the reshuffling happened with the conservatives. Fred,

00:10:29.360 Pierre Polyev is back in parliament. What's the sense of the first week? There's a lot of tone stories

00:10:35.760 and strategy stories over the summer. It seems to be the aggressive full speed ahead guy we knew

00:10:40.960 before the election. What do you make of where things are now that he's had a full week back?

00:10:44.320 Yeah. Look, I think it's been, I think it was a good week for Polyev and the conservatives where,

00:10:48.080 yes, he maintained his aggression, which is never going to go away. It's who he is. But I do think

00:10:53.920 there was a bit of more pointed attacks, more direct contrasting with this, with this government.

00:11:00.480 He was very good on his feet, like he has been in the past. But what I've noticed too,

00:11:06.960 watching Question Period is the caucus, the conservative caucus. They're fired up.

00:11:11.120 They have a hop in their step again, as does the leader being back here. You know, when Pierre lost

00:11:17.440 his seat and they came back in the spring, he did a number of press conferences on the hill. He looked

00:11:21.920 defeated. He looked saddened. He looked, he just lost. He was, you know, a few months prior to that,

00:11:26.720 he was going to win the biggest majority in history. And we ended up losing the election

00:11:30.160 in his own seat. And that's, that is incredibly hard on a person. And it was hard on the whole

00:11:34.640 team, the whole caucus. You could see it. They weren't, there was a bit of drifting there. But

00:11:38.400 right now, morale, I would say, has returned in many regards, and they feel like they have a purpose

00:11:44.560 and a vision that they are trying to champion this fall. Mel, it's clearly energizing the caucus

00:11:51.600 and sort of the base. I mean, what we've seen in the return, do you see it resonating with the

00:11:57.040 Canadians he needs to pull back? The look on your face is just, no, you don't see that.

00:12:02.320 No, I don't. I'll disagree with Fred a little bit. I totally appreciate the re-energy. You could

00:12:08.720 definitely tell that, you know, conservatives were fired up. So at least that's a positive. As it relates

00:12:14.160 to, you know, found the purpose or the mission or what it is that they're going to be focusing on over

00:12:19.840 the next few weeks, over the next few months, I didn't really hear it if he was saying it.

00:12:25.600 So I think still trying to figure out what is the contrast? What is the value difference? And

00:12:31.280 then Prime Minister Carney, I think is something that Pyongyang still has to go to ground and figure

00:12:35.520 out. And it doesn't mean that you, you know, you can't, you can't be aggressive. A part of being

00:12:40.640 opposition is that. And obviously, if you're not going to be genuine to yourself, which we know

00:12:44.240 Pyongyang probably have to be, folks can stiff that out and aren't going to like it. But I do think that

00:12:48.800 there still needs to be, at least, I don't think as a Democrat, but if I was a conservative,

00:12:54.160 I definitely think that there needs to be a little bit more soul searching of what it is

00:12:58.960 that you're going to be focusing on and what your message is to real folks, to regular people.

00:13:03.360 Of course, in the next few weeks, he needs to speak to conservatives. But beyond that,

00:13:07.440 if he wants a top job, he's going to need to speak to regular people. So what is that message?

00:13:12.320 I didn't hear it this week. Well, you know, Greg, I can see tactically some of the things

00:13:15.840 they're doing, proposing private members' bills on justice and other things where they're laying

00:13:21.040 out an alternative vision, essentially a package of policy proposals to show their difference with

00:13:24.960 the government or to get ahead of what the government is doing. But then the attacks on,

00:13:28.320 like, the trip to Mexico as it's an empty photo op and didn't accomplish anything. Like,

00:13:34.880 one thing seems like clear contrast. The other thing seems like just social media stuff. Like,

00:13:39.040 how do you view it? Yeah. And I said this last week, he sounds like last year.

00:13:42.560 And the thing is, look, in marketing and commercials, you have to change your message to get people's

00:13:49.760 attention. And if I don't think people are as engaged in politics the way they were in terms

00:13:54.400 of the election, they're engaged in the economy, the impact of tariffs, inflation, you know,

00:13:59.440 what we're going to do. And you see the prime minister flying to Mexico, trying to improve our

00:14:05.360 trade. And the leader of the opposition makes fun of it in a very childish way. Even there's a little

00:14:11.440 thing where he was kind of snarky to a female reporter about the budget. Look, there was a

00:14:16.000 question asked every year, or every budget of the opposition, are you going to support yes or no?

00:14:21.280 You know, there's, you know, answers that are ready to go. You got to see it. Like, in fairness,

00:14:27.040 you got to see the budget. But you know what the easy answer is, that's a hypothetical question.

00:14:30.080 Yeah. And that hypothetical question is asked by your tribe all the time. And if you're not ready for it,

00:14:36.880 why are you the leader of the conservatives? But again, it was just a little thing that seemed a

00:14:41.200 bit like the old Pierre. I don't know why or who around him in July thought it was a really good

00:14:48.080 idea to spin a story that he was changing his tone. Because for the life of me, I don't know what the

00:14:54.160 purpose of that was supposed to be. Yeah. When I spoke to someone, you know, in his orbit, they say

00:14:58.640 he's not going to change. Like, this is who he is. People can smell false change, right? So be who you are and

00:15:04.240 live and die with it. Fred, quick last word on this. And I want to quickly get to the Canada,

00:15:07.680 U.S. stuff. Well, with these guys, there is a concern that how do they hold that 42% of the

00:15:12.240 vote that they just got in this last election? It's not a guarantee that it stays with them. So they

00:15:16.320 have to. According to the polls, they don't have it right now. So no, no, but the party support is

00:15:20.800 good. The leader support is where it's right. So they need to figure that out. How do you find that

00:15:24.640 balance? I do agree. The dismissiveness of some of his comments, the way he dismisses some people

00:15:30.800 and the silliness that he enters in is just not helpful. I think when he is serious,

00:15:34.720 I think he does. Of course, of course, the CBC took some time at the end to rip on Polyev.

00:15:39.760 The good news, they're finally turning on their puppet master, Mark Carney. That was a real video.

00:15:44.800 That's not AI. Why are they doing this? I feel like they're trying to save face after spending years

00:15:50.400 and years, almost a decade, propping up Trudeau and now Carney. The rats are fleeing the ship because

00:15:56.080 they know it's going down. They know the liberal regime is going down. Like I said in a previous

00:16:02.000 video, I wouldn't be entirely surprised if a no confidence vote is held shortly. Now I know,

00:16:07.120 I know I was supposed to make a video about a no confidence vote today. However, I was busy setting

00:16:11.200 up my new studio. So I apologize. I'll be doing that video either on Sunday or on Monday. The final

00:16:17.120 thing I have to say is continue to have faith because I believe that Polyev will be in office sooner

00:16:22.880 rather than later. Have a great weekend, Patriots.

Media TURNS On Carney As Freeland RESIGNS

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