Mark Slapinski - October 23, 2025


Poilievre Could Win If Election Were Held Today - Pollster


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11 minutes

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Summary

Breaking news! The mainstream media is now confirming a federal election could be coming in two weeks, and that the Conservatives actually have a chance of winning! What does that mean for the Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the Conservative Party of Canada? And what does it say about the direction of the country? In this episode, we talk to polls analyst Eric Grenier about what the polls are telling us.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 i have some breaking news the mainstream media is now confirming a federal election could be coming
00:00:05.280 in two weeks and that pure polyev actually has a chance of winning let's take a look at that
00:00:10.480 well without a doubt the government's first budget will be top of mind for the next two weeks here
00:00:15.120 in ottawa and if the budget does not pass well that would trigger another election something
00:00:20.960 the government house leader says is a real possibility take a listen right now to stephen
00:00:26.160 mckinnon look we do not think an election is necessary we have a minority parliament but we
00:00:32.240 do believe we have a mandate a mandate along the lines of my previous answer um if there has to be
00:00:38.240 an election we will confidently uh take our plan to the people but we don't think an election is
00:00:44.320 necessary and we can win one and as i said yesterday the the opposition parties are in my view being
00:00:50.720 very very cavalier about the country okay so the government house leader uses the word cavalier
00:00:57.520 but is there any incentive for any party to pull the plug on this parliament to talk about this
00:01:03.200 we're now joined by polls analyst eric grenier the founder and the writer of the writ hello eric
00:01:08.720 hi so listen and i don't have to say this to you but any party that wants to vote this government down
00:01:14.880 they would have to have this feeling that they could gain more seats in another vote so so i wonder
00:01:20.080 what the polls are telling you because you did ask us to prepare two results in particular i'm going
00:01:24.720 to ask the control room to call it up right now so there you have it leger to the left abacus to
00:01:28.560 the right walk us through these polls eric and what they're telling you yeah these are see projections
00:01:34.880 based on polls that we've seen recently from abacus data and leger and i do think that these
00:01:40.000 two sets of polls actually do tell the story the two kinds of narratives we're seeing from the polls
00:01:44.800 abacus had the poll out just a few days ago had the conservatives at 41 the liberals at 40 and
00:01:49.760 the ndp at eight percent did you hear that the mainstream media actually admits that the
00:01:54.720 conservative party is leading the liberals at 41 that's excellent news it means that we actually
00:02:00.720 can win an election all we need is a few more percentage points then if an election is called
00:02:07.120 we're gonna win now i just want to quickly point out my videos aren't getting as much traction as they
00:02:11.200 normally do so if you see this part of the video give it a like give it a subscribe and let me know
00:02:16.560 whether you saw this part in the comment section i'm doing a test all right thank you let's get back
00:02:21.440 to the action leger had a poll a few weeks before that had the liberals with a six point lead over
00:02:26.800 the conservatives and that is pretty much the kind of numbers we've seen from polls over the last two
00:02:31.040 months either a neck and neck race between the liberals and the conservatives or either a small
00:02:34.800 lead for the liberals in the case of the small lead for the liberals you get a majority government
00:02:40.480 like those see projection shows where the liberals could get the majority that they were missing out on
00:02:45.120 election night and with the very close race the kind of numbers that we've seen especially at the
00:02:50.080 regional level really suggested be 50 50. the sea projection i had there had 150 seats apiece for
00:02:55.520 the liberals and the conservatives in all likelihood one of them would end up with one or more one one
00:03:00.000 or two more seats than the other but it does show that there are two different scenarios that are
00:03:04.160 being played out here i think in a lot of uh parties minds one is could the liberals get a majority
00:03:09.040 and the other is could it end up being as as much as a toss-up election between the conservatives and the
00:03:14.640 liberals yeah so so two possible narratives nothing really guaranteed if for example the conservatives
00:03:19.600 want to pull the plug but i but i also do wonder here eric because the conservative leader has been
00:03:24.560 on the defense of this week he's been asked questions about that interview he gave uh when
00:03:29.280 that pierre pollie pierre pollie excuse me gave in which he described the rcmp leadership as despicable
00:03:35.840 and he accused the rcmp of covering up for justin trudeau is there any way of knowing if those
00:03:40.880 comments and the fallout from it will affect the the numbers that you've been looking at
00:03:45.440 well i think that it's not going to impact his ability to pass the leadership review in january
00:03:50.080 uh every indication is that conservative voters and we can expect that as well of party members
00:03:55.040 are very pleased with pierre pollie but will it have a broader impact on the support for pierre pollie
00:04:00.400 and the conservatives we've seen lots of criticisms about how statements like this don't seem to put him
00:04:05.440 as a pm and waiting they're not the kind of things that are going to appeal to those those really those
00:04:10.160 swing voters that the conservatives need to win the next election so we'll be watching to see over
00:04:13.920 the next little while if some of the some of the discontent we've heard over the last while is going
00:04:18.640 to impact his polling numbers and that indirectly could end up impacting his his leadership if there
00:04:25.520 is more concern without the within the conservative party whether or not they like him whether they
00:04:29.760 think he can actually win the next election yeah and that is of course because part of the
00:04:33.600 calculus that conservatives would have to consider whether or not they wanted to to vote down this
00:04:37.840 government let's also talk about the bloc quebecois though because yes the conservatives are the
00:04:41.200 official opposition but for the liberals they need quebec it's their path to government and we've heard
00:04:46.640 from uh he has already said that he's going to vote against the budget even with before seeing it
00:04:52.400 so when you look at the same two polls is there any any motivation for the bq to to pull the plug on this
00:04:59.520 parliament well yes and no uh they had 22 seats in the last election and with the kind of numbers
00:05:05.360 we've seen the bloc is up a little bit in quebec the liberals are down a little bit they could expect
00:05:09.280 to win 30 31 seats maybe uh replicate the results from the 2019 and 2021 elections but in one of those
00:05:16.160 scenarios they hold the balance of power in the other of those scenarios they just have a few more
00:05:20.880 seats with the liberal majority government and i think that is one of the things that the bloc has to
00:05:24.400 take into consideration what can they get out of the government right now because if there is an
00:05:28.720 election yeah the bloc might be able to win a few more seats doesn't necessarily mean that they
00:05:32.880 would have any more influence in a parliament after that so that is a choice they're going to have to
00:05:36.320 make also a big choice there is a provincial election in quebec next year so if the bloc doesn't
00:05:41.120 go in 2025 could they go in 2026 because i i think that they would want to make sure they're not getting
00:05:47.280 in the way with the pelci québécois winning that election next year and talk to us a bit about the
00:05:52.800 ndp because you know anecdotally i'll tell you i've spoken to some new democrats here in ottawa they talk about
00:05:58.000 the borrowed vote that that essentially delivered a victory to the carny liberals and they believe
00:06:03.360 that those votes would come back to the ndp if an election were held can you say anything about that
00:06:10.080 well that is certainly something that could happen but we haven't seen it happen in the polls there
00:06:14.000 have been a couple surveys now and then that'll have the ndp at 12 something like that but most of
00:06:18.800 them still show them in the low single or the the mid single digits i should say so there is the
00:06:23.200 chance that if there wasn't another election they could get the 12 seats that they need for official
00:06:27.600 party status in the house of commons there's also a chance that they end up with the same number of
00:06:31.840 seats or even fewer and the ndp really can't afford another bad election another election where they
00:06:37.680 have to spend resources on a on a campaign where they don't get a lot of the reimbursements back
00:06:42.720 so it's possible the ndp could find themselves with 12 15 seats in a new election but again could the
00:06:49.200 party afford uh another catastrophe like the last election and just like the bloc could they end up
00:06:54.560 losing the balance of power that they currently have okay so so then when you when you hear the
00:06:58.880 government house leader expressing concerns about getting this budget passed how real again based on
00:07:04.320 the numbers you're looking at how real is that concern right now eric it they must be real enough
00:07:10.400 because we see that mark kearney has met with a couple of the leaders today he's making that speech
00:07:15.680 there's clearly a concern that the budget might not get passed or that they need to make sure that they
00:07:20.400 have the parties on board to at least abstain one of them could abstain and also avoid an election
00:07:24.880 but at the same time there's not really a lot of incentive for anybody to go to the polls is there
00:07:29.200 a chance that any of those parties could end up in a better position yes is there a chance that they
00:07:33.680 could end up in a worse position yes and it's really 50 50. so we're not in a scenario like in
00:07:39.200 the fall of 2024 where there was a huge incentive for the conservatives for the bloc to go to uh to a
00:07:44.880 campaign because of how weak the liberals were right now liberals could get a majority they could get
00:07:49.600 defeated the conservatives could win uh an election they could end up in the exact same position they
00:07:53.840 are right now so uh when you look at those kind of calculations not a lot of incentives for parties
00:07:59.920 to go to the polls now maybe there'll be incentives to go later okay uh maybe as soon as next week who
00:08:05.280 knows we'll bug you again eric randy i always appreciate the time thank you for that thanks michael so
00:08:11.920 there you have it the mainstream media is literally admitting a new election could be around the corner
00:08:17.040 mcpire polyev in fact does have a chance of winning now the guy on this episode didn't use
00:08:22.400 those exact words but that's what they're hinting at now it all makes sense that's why my videos and
00:08:27.760 other podcasters are getting censored that's why the liberals and the liberal media are on attack mode
00:08:33.600 they know the end is nigh and they're getting desperate really desperate this also comes as the
00:08:38.960 people of toronto reject their socialist mayor olivia chow even the mainstream media is now admitting
00:08:44.960 that she's on her way out if you haven't seen that video check that one out after this one i think
00:08:49.760 you're gonna like it especially if you live in or near toronto now before i end off for today i want
00:08:55.120 to show you another recent clip from polyev in the house of commons you're gonna like this another day
00:09:00.720 more costly slogans from that member of parliament but now canadians are learning it was a bait and switch
00:09:05.920 today another terrible tragedy as they laugh 1300 excuse me 1200 workers at the indersault kami plant
00:09:15.440 learned that they would lose their jobs after that prime minister promised he would negotiate a win
00:09:20.960 and that he would keep their jobs here in canada they joined with 2 000 workers in brampton many more
00:09:28.080 in oshawa how does the prime minister look in the eyes the very workers that he sold out and betrayed
00:09:33.520 i'll tell you how the prime minister will how he will deal with the auto sector he will look at the
00:09:40.320 auto workers in the eyes and he will say we will fight for your job
00:09:51.440 this is important to say that i met this morning with the canadian ceo of gm i was in conversation with
00:09:58.880 the head of the labor union of uniform and i also talked to doug ford and i talked to vic fidelli and
00:10:05.680 you know what we're putting in place a response group we will make sure that we fight for these
00:10:11.200 jobs and she announced just now that she talked to this person and she talked to that person and she
00:10:15.920 talked to this other person and she talked and she talked and they talked and they talked and nothing
00:10:21.440 gets done mr speaker canadians are tired of talk they want their job this government for this prime
00:10:27.840 minister looked these workers in the eye and said he would negotiate a win that he would protect auto
00:10:33.680 jobs that there would be an all in canada supply chain that would keep them working they even gave
00:10:39.360 a quarter billion tax dollars to gm for this plant and now those workers don't know how they're going
00:10:45.760 to pay their bills how does this government explain the broken promise and betrayal another great speech
00:10:51.360 and a reminder of why we need paulie have an office he's smart he's a good leader he's a good father
00:10:57.440 and he's going to lead our country to greatness and make sure we're one of the richest most powerful
00:11:02.880 countries in the world i can assure you of that if he gets into office that's where we're headed
00:11:07.920 thanks for tuning in have a great night patriots