Mark Slapinski

00:00:00.000 Despite the fact that Poliev lost two MPs to the Liberal Party lately, he's not going anywhere.

00:00:06.760 In fact, he's back and he's stronger than he ever was before.

00:00:10.820 Leader of the official opposition and Conservative leader Pierre Poliev. Nice to see you, Mr. Poliev.

00:00:14.680 Good to be with you.

00:00:15.240 Thanks for making the time. I want to start with what happened in Australia overnight.

00:00:18.460 At least 11 people killed at a Hanukkah event on Bondi Beach. And just for your thoughts on that, sir.

00:00:23.840 Well, our condolences for the families. This is another act of anti-Semitic evil and terrorism that have become all too common.

00:00:33.500 This is what happens when we allow hate, terrorism, anti-Semitism to be normalized.

00:00:39.220 We in Canada have to reflect on the fact that there have been rampaging anti-Semitic riots on our streets,

00:00:44.160 fire bombings of children's schools and of Jewish synagogues.

00:00:48.660 And it is absolutely unacceptable. We must destroy this terrorism, stand up against anti-Semitism and make Canada and hopefully the world a safe place for people to wear their mezuzahs,

00:01:01.600 to put their mezuzahs on their doors, to wear their Stars of David and their kippahs, and to be proud Jews.

00:01:07.160 So I'm thinking of all of my Jewish friends and neighbors at this Hanukkah.

00:01:10.480 OK, move on to some politics now. And I want to talk politics and a bit of policy as well.

00:01:15.320 But let's start with what happened last week. You've now lost two MPs to the Liberal Party.

00:01:20.160 Both have pointed to your leadership as issues. Michael Ma saying that he was more interested in unity than division.

00:01:26.140 Is this a problem of your leadership at this point?

00:01:28.260 No, it's a problem of Mark Carney's leadership that after Canadians clearly rejected a liberal, a costly liberal majority,

00:01:36.920 because they knew it would mean higher grocery prices and higher food costs.

00:01:43.180 He is trying to manipulate his way through backroom deals to get that majority.

00:01:48.860 He's allowed to do this, though, right? Forecrossing is allowed. You've benefited from it in the past, too.

00:01:53.360 But he's trying to take a majority, a costly majority, that would drive up the cost of living and enrich liberal elites, of course,

00:02:00.700 but not through democratic means. My message to Mark Carney is that if you want a costly majority government

00:02:07.100 to drive up taxes and deficits, then you have to go to the Canadian people and have them vote for it,

00:02:12.520 not do it by dirty backroom deals.

00:02:14.540 I mean, I know you don't like it. And we can talk about the merits of floor crossing and whether it should be allowed.

00:02:19.840 But it is allowed. This is something that is allowed to happen.

00:02:23.860 So back to my question, is this a sign of a weakness in your leadership that two members of your caucus have left?

00:02:31.220 No, it's a sign of backroom dealings that will drive up the cost of living.

00:02:35.420 And don't take my word for it. Take Mr. Ma's word. This is what he said just a few weeks ago.

00:02:39.960 We are in a shameful situation in this country where over two million Canadians are visiting food banks every month.

00:02:47.060 At the end of every month, paychecks are not going far enough.

00:02:49.360 Why is that? I'm quoting. The liberals want to deflect and blame this solely on the trade deficit.

00:02:55.240 However, there is a simple economic fact. When we create more units of currency and map them into the economy,

00:03:01.220 that is not meaningfully producing more goods and services.

00:03:03.920 We get inflation as a case in point in the last five years.

00:03:07.340 I'll just finish up his quote. In the last five years, grocery prices have risen more than 20 percent.

00:03:13.380 He blames that on Mark Carney's deficit. And that was only a few weeks ago.

00:03:17.420 So it's possible he didn't write that, though, as we know, many of your MPs.

00:03:21.120 Yeah, many of your MPs are given talking.

00:03:22.980 They were his words. They were his words.

00:03:25.380 OK, so what he was writing that when he said that. And it was, you know, but he he.

00:03:30.520 What are you doing now? What are you doing now to make sure other caucus members don't leave?

00:03:33.960 What are you saying to them?

00:03:35.700 Affordability, affordability, affordability.

00:03:38.200 Canadians cannot afford grocery prices because of Carney's hidden liberal taxes on food.

00:03:45.260 What unites all conservatives is the belief that you should be able to have a full bank account,

00:03:50.820 a full fridge and a full stomach all at the same time, something that's not possible after 10 years of liberalism.

00:03:55.560 And listen, we were talking to Minister Champagne about that and a gentleman who's using a food bank because you're right,

00:03:59.820 they are at record highs. But obviously there are some people who believe that Mark Carney has the solutions to those problems.

00:04:05.220 Well, he is the one who has who's causing the problems he's brought in.

00:04:09.100 He's bringing in an industrial carbon tax on farm equipment and on fertilizer that drives up food prices,

00:04:16.000 a food packaging tax that adds about a billion dollars to grocery bills across the country,

00:04:21.100 a new fuel tax that will be seven cents a liter next year on farmers, on truckers who bring us our food.

00:04:29.600 And then, of course, there's a 78 billion dollar deficit twice the size of Trudeau's,

00:04:34.100 which is causing inflation, as Mr. Ma rightly pointed out.

00:04:37.860 And I'm the only one who's going to reverse that inflationary policy.

00:04:41.920 I've been saying this now for five years and I regrettably continually proven right that when you spend more and tax more,

00:04:49.900 then Canadians have to pay more for groceries after 10 liberal years.

00:04:54.880 Let's talk a bit about policy because that's obviously where you want to go to.

00:04:58.400 The memorandum of understanding with Alberta.

00:05:02.080 The overall goal of that deal is to get a pipeline, at least one pipeline to the British Columbia coast to get more oil to Asian markets.

00:05:12.340 Do you think that the fundamentals behind that deal are a good idea, that that itself is a good idea?

00:05:18.600 A pipeline to the Pacific?

00:05:21.360 Well, that part of the deal that the prime minister has put on the table with the Alberta premier makes sense.

00:05:26.740 Yes, obviously.

00:05:27.580 That's why I put forward a motion in favor of that pipeline.

00:05:31.400 But Mark Carney doesn't think it's a good idea.

00:05:32.940 He voted against his own promised pipeline.

00:05:34.920 Well, he did that because it didn't have the industrial carbon price in it, as you know.

00:05:38.200 You make a very good point.

00:05:39.400 If you had put the whole MOU on the table to vote against, it probably would have worked out better for you in that instance.

00:05:45.300 But then I would be voting for a costly carbon tax, as you point out, a tax on food, because when you tax the farm equipment and fertilizer, you tax the food, a tax on homes, because when you tax cement, glass, concrete, wood and other things.

00:06:01.080 But the premier of Alberta is comfortable with industrial carbon pricing.

00:06:03.500 If I could, you asked me why I didn't put it in, because I am against carbon taxes, period.

00:06:08.380 Now, let's talk about the amazing and brilliant premier of Alberta, who said just the other day when she was endorsing my leadership that I would not have forced a carbon tax on her.

00:06:20.380 And if I were prime minister right now, we'd be well on the way to planning a pipeline, something that is not happening under the current liberal government.

00:06:27.840 Now, let's be clear about Mark Carney.

00:06:29.880 He is a counterfeit.

00:06:31.180 He's pretending to adopt my policies, because he knows they're popular, but he's quietly working against them.

00:06:36.460 He's told his liberal caucus—

00:06:37.300 So you don't believe that he actually wants a pipeline?

00:06:39.700 Because the Alberta premier believes that.

00:06:40.980 I do believe what he voted against, which was the pipeline.

00:06:46.020 And Mark, let's take a look at the history here.

00:06:49.760 What you have to believe to trust Mark Carney on this.

00:06:52.040 His party killed this pipeline in a 2016—November of 2016 cabinet decision.

00:06:59.840 Mark Carney endorsed that decision to kill the pipeline.

00:07:03.120 I don't believe that Mark Carney has changed from the things that he wrote for 10 years and that his party did for 10 years, which is to block pipelines and try to keep oil and gas in the ground.

00:07:12.800 Then why does Daniel Smith believe him?

00:07:14.080 Daniel Smith was very clever, because she forced Carney to flip-flop and break his word to his—leave it in the ground caucus—by withdrawing his threatened emissions cap and clean electricity regulations, because those things would have driven up the cost of energy and killed even more jobs.

00:07:33.600 Now, Ms. Smith defended her province by forcing Carney to flip-flop on that. 1.00

00:07:38.800 But that, at the end of the day, does not mean that we should give him credit.

00:07:43.300 He was threatening to do a lot of damage.

00:07:44.960 Now he's doing a little less damage.

00:07:47.120 Why doesn't he just get out of the way?

00:07:48.660 We know what it takes to get a pipeline done.

00:07:50.780 The federal government has the sole legal authority to approve it.

00:07:53.760 So approve it, set the corridor, and the private sector will build it, because it's wildly profitable.

00:08:00.060 You referenced Northern Gateway, and you know that the problems there—yes, it was a cabinet decision—but the problem is British Columbia and First Nations.

00:08:06.860 So what would you do to try and get their support for a pipeline, or would you just say, too bad, we're doing it?

00:08:13.880 We're doing it.

00:08:14.820 So you wouldn't bother with consultation?

00:08:16.700 Of course I would consult.

00:08:17.660 That's what my motion said.

00:08:19.100 We do consultations, but we are going to build a pipeline when I'm prime minister.

00:08:25.160 As for British Columbia, the premier does not have a veto.

00:08:28.560 Under our Constitution, Section 92, it is the exclusive domain of the federal government.

00:08:34.800 And under Bill C-5, which Mark Carney asked for, it is the exclusive decision of the prime minister.

00:08:40.780 So there's only one person who will decide on this in the end, and that is the prime minister of Canada.

00:08:46.780 Mark Carney is quietly whispering to the leave-it-in-the-ground liberal caucus,

00:08:50.960 there will never be a pipeline, don't worry.

00:08:52.820 No, he must not be saying that, because Stephen Gilbo quit.

00:08:56.140 Stephen Gilbo quit because of the emissions cap, but he is saying it,

00:09:01.100 and his own MPs in British Columbia are saying it.

00:09:04.440 And then he voted against a pipeline in the House of Commons.

00:09:07.360 What he's doing, let's be clear, pipelines are popular and profitable.

00:09:11.640 So he's pretending that he's open to one until after the next election,

00:09:14.680 so that he can try to win pro-pipeline voters.

00:09:17.700 But then his plan is to kill the project.

00:09:20.440 If you want a pipeline to the Pacific to add $30 billion of overseas exports,

00:09:26.000 the biggest export project overseas in Canadian history,

00:09:29.220 you will need a conservative government that will get out of the way and let it happen.

00:09:33.020 Okay, let's ask, I want to ask you about trade,

00:09:34.720 because that's the other piece that is coming in the new year.

00:09:37.420 There's still no deal.

00:09:38.620 Talks are still stalled, although the prime minister speaks to the president.

00:09:41.960 Do you think that the Kusma review is now the best way forward for Canada

00:09:46.280 in getting any kind of deal with the United States?

00:09:50.320 My position is that we need tariff-free access to the biggest and most lucrative market in the world,

00:09:55.940 which we had before the Liberal government was elected in 2015.

00:10:00.080 Of course, after the Liberals got in,

00:10:03.340 President Obama started hammering us with new tariffs on softwood lumber that Harper had got lifted.

00:10:09.100 They brought in new Buy America rules.

00:10:11.080 And then it's been one defeat after another.

00:10:13.640 So what would you do?

00:10:14.460 What do you think they should be doing here?

00:10:16.320 We should reflect on the fact that Mark Carney was elected on one promise,

00:10:20.180 that he would negotiate a win with President Trump by July 21st.

00:10:24.440 And here we are, about a half a year later, his promise is broken.

00:10:28.420 American tariffs have doubled.

00:10:29.900 They've tripled on softwood lumber.

00:10:31.240 But some of that is because of the president.

00:10:32.560 So I'm genuinely curious.

00:10:34.960 What would you do in dealing with Donald Trump?

00:10:37.700 I will answer that question, but let's be clear.

00:10:40.420 Mark Carney said he could handle Donald Trump.

00:10:42.580 Well, so did you.

00:10:43.500 And I would have if I were Prime Minister right now.

00:10:45.800 So what should he be doing?

00:10:47.900 We have to negotiate from a position of strength.

00:10:50.500 And I have to go back.

00:10:51.980 Look, we need to approve pipelines and natural gas projects and other major resource projects

00:10:59.120 that allow us to ship our single biggest export overseas so that we are not monolithically

00:11:04.140 And that alone would get Donald Trump to talk to you more?

00:11:04.920 That we are not monolithically dependent on the Americans.

00:11:07.540 We need to get rid of the capital gains tax on reinvestments in Canada to bring back

00:11:12.360 the half trillion dollars of investment liberals have driven into the U.S. economy.

00:11:16.360 And then you can sit down with the president and say, look, now we're selling our resources

00:11:21.160 to the Asians, to the Europeans.

00:11:24.240 Now we're bringing back our investment and becoming more sovereign, strong and self-reliant.

00:11:29.000 Now we're in a position of strength.

00:11:30.900 Now let's negotiate.

00:11:32.520 And that would be a far better approach than what Mr. Carney is doing, which is blocking

00:11:36.560 these projects, keeping all of the liberal taxes and anti-resource laws in place of the

00:11:43.520 last 10 years, and giving even more of our investment to the Americans.

00:11:49.120 It's been a long year.

00:11:50.480 I think we can both agree on that.

00:11:51.820 A long, busy political year.

00:11:53.600 Did you take any lessons from this past year, either in the election defeat, in your defeat

00:11:59.200 in your own riding?

00:11:59.960 Is there anything you're reflecting on in terms of what you should be doing differently,

00:12:05.640 better, your leadership style, how you speak to Canadians?

00:12:10.080 I reflect a lot on why I'm doing this.

00:12:13.840 Why am I in this?

00:12:15.640 And it's the elderly woman who said to me that going shopping used to be her favorite

00:12:21.420 thing to do every week.

00:12:23.200 Now she walks down a grocery aisle and she feels anxious and angry because of how much it

00:12:28.840 costs to fill her fridge, that she gets home and she's stressed out because she cannot

00:12:34.760 afford to eat.

00:12:36.280 I think of the young guy, Matt, who wants to start a family.

00:12:39.260 He's in his 30s.

00:12:40.100 He's been working his whole adult life and he can't afford a down payment.

00:12:44.780 I am in it for these people and I need to give them hope.

00:12:48.760 That's what this country needs now more than ever.

00:12:51.360 Hope that you will again be able to afford a home.

00:12:53.980 Hope that you can afford food.

00:12:55.600 Hope that you'll be safe on your streets.

00:12:57.040 And that will be the obsession of my leadership to provide hope for a better future.

00:13:01.120 And that's the why and super important, obviously.

00:13:03.860 But it's the how I'm asking about, whether you think that you are doing the how the right

00:13:07.320 way.

00:13:08.160 Well, on the how side, so let's break it down.

00:13:10.440 On food, the how is we got to get rid of the industrial carbon tax on food.

00:13:14.280 I don't mean the policies.

00:13:15.620 I mean you as a leader, whether you feel you're doing that part the right way to connect with

00:13:20.960 those people and talk about what you think are the right solutions.

00:13:24.360 Yeah, the right solutions, it's not just the industrial carbon tax that we have to.

00:13:29.680 The underlying problem with inflation is that they're printing money.

00:13:33.240 And whenever you print money, then you bid up the goods that Canadians buy.

00:13:37.160 And it enriches a small group of liberal elite corporate insiders because all their assets

00:13:42.580 go up.

00:13:43.080 But then the working class people who actually carry this country on their shoulders, they 1.00

00:13:46.840 get ripped off.

00:13:48.500 And so we need to stop the money printing, get our budget back into balance, cut the bureaucracy,

00:13:55.000 consultants, corporate welfare, foreign aid, handouts to phony refugees. 0.68

00:14:00.160 Cut that all off.

00:14:01.160 Because then you can bring down the deficits, the inflation and the taxes.

00:14:05.000 And then that young person I met will be able to afford a down payment.

00:14:08.360 And that wonderful grandmother will be able to once again enjoy her visit to the grocery

00:14:13.380 store because she can afford groceries. 1.00

00:14:15.120 Are you looking forward to Christmas with your family?

00:14:16.800 Very much so.

00:14:17.700 We procrastinated on letters to Santa.

00:14:20.520 And so we got them written last night.

00:14:22.240 Okay.

00:14:22.820 Hopefully he'll get them in time.

00:14:24.100 Well, I know.

00:14:24.800 We put them on the Christmas tree and there was an elf that came and took the letter.

00:14:29.720 And we understand that through that express service, it's going to make it to the North

00:14:33.880 Pole just in time.

00:14:34.840 Once again, that was a great performance by Paulyev and a terrible performance by Barton.

00:14:39.400 I can't stand this woman. 1.00

00:14:41.120 She's terrible even by CBC standards. 0.96

00:14:44.120 The good thing is that Paulyev will eventually defund CBC once he gets into power and Barton

00:14:49.460 will be in the unemployment line.

00:14:51.620 Nobody would even take her seriously outside of CBC.

00:14:55.120 So I can't wait to see that happen.

00:14:56.700 Let's face it, Rosemary Barton is really, really rude. 1.00

00:15:01.580 If you watch the interview, she continuously cuts him off and she tries to put words right

00:15:06.740 into his mouth.

00:15:07.960 I wonder how she sleeps at night knowing that she's a hack and a liberal party shill. 1.00

00:15:13.540 Like I always say, I still have faith that Paulyev is going to get into office and hopefully

00:15:17.100 it's sooner rather than later.

00:15:19.020 I'm still predicting a summer super majority.

00:15:21.680 So we'll see how that goes.

00:15:22.840 But even in the worst case scenario, if Carney wins a majority because another sneaky conservative

00:15:29.640 MP decides to defect, Paulyev is still going to win the next election.

00:15:34.500 Paulyev, he's only going to get more popular and Carney, he's only going to get less popular.

00:15:39.740 And if it takes another three years to get that super majority, maybe that's what has

00:15:44.340 to happen.

00:15:45.340 Hopefully it's sooner than then.

00:15:46.960 But if that's what has to happen, that's what has to happen.

00:15:50.200 We need to play the long game.

00:15:51.620 So just hang in there, patriots.

00:15:53.600 Have a bit more faith.

00:15:54.820 Have a bit more patience.

00:15:56.260 As you notice, my voice is still gone.

00:15:58.720 I don't know what's going on here.

00:15:59.880 I might have to go get this checked out.

00:16:01.960 But I'm still dedicated to making these videos and giving you the truth that you need.

00:16:07.600 So I love you all.

00:16:08.740 Have a great night.

00:16:09.860 Talk to you soon.

Poilievre Humiliates Rosemary Barton During Interview

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