Polyv and Global News reporter Donna Friesian get into a heated debate about the future of the Conservative Party of Canada and its leader, Pira Polyv. She tries to make him look stupid, and he flips the script and makes her look stupid.
00:12:26.600Well, that's why I need to win the next one.
00:12:28.720And then we can actually get some projects done because this pipeline will be fantastic when it happens under a Conservative government.
00:12:35.880$30 billion a year in overseas exports, less dependence on the Americans, about $1,800 in benefits per family per year, and a stronger Canadian dollar, which will make our lives more affordable to buy homes and food.
00:12:52.060And why do you think that you would get a pipeline built faster?
00:12:56.420What would you do to make that happen?
00:12:58.400Get out of the way, because that's all that needs to happen right now.
00:13:04.500So the federal government is the only level of government that needs to approve the pipeline.
00:13:08.700Under our Constitution, Section 92, the federal government has exclusive jurisdiction to approve or reject an interprovincial pipeline.
00:13:18.460The reason it doesn't happen, even though it's wildly profitable and popular, is that there is no federal permit to build it.
00:13:26.000And the previously approved pipeline was then canceled by this liberal government in 2016.
00:13:31.640So if we get the government out of the way, approve a right-of-way, the private sector can then go ahead and build a pipeline from Hardesty, Alberta to the coast.
00:13:40.780And so all we really need to do is get the prime minister out of the way, because he is the only one who has the authority to approve or reject one.
00:13:47.460And what about the duty to consult with Indigenous leaders?
00:14:25.800First of all, I wouldn't say it wouldn't matter.
00:14:27.420I would go ahead with the pipeline, and I would also clarify that when the Liberals killed this pipeline last time, in 2016, 75% of Indigenous communities along the path supported it.
00:14:40.040They overrode and overpowered those First Nations communities.
00:14:43.940And I think it's a really unfortunate stereotype to say that First Nations are against pipelines when the evidence is the overwhelming majority of them support it.
00:14:52.800Although I think the media sometimes tries to stereotype that they're all against it.
00:14:57.340I think at the latest Assembly of First Nations meeting, there's a unanimous vote in supporting the Pacific Northwest Coast Indigenous leaders who don't want a pipeline.
00:15:08.260Well, the last pipeline from northern Alberta to the Pacific had 75% of the First Nations communities along the route supporting it and benefiting from it.
00:15:18.360And we have these First Nations leaders in my own caucus, who, for example, like Billy Morin, who is a former chief of the Enoch First Nations.
00:15:27.180And his community has been enriched because oil and gas has been allowed to expand.
00:15:57.500Does that send any signals to you about your leadership?
00:16:00.280It sends a signal to me that the Prime Minister is trying to manipulate his way to the majority that Canadians voters denied him during the election.
00:16:12.720I'm talking about Conservative MPs who left your caucus.
00:16:15.360I'm not asking about Mark Carney right now.
00:16:18.700Let me just read to you what one of them, Chris Dantremont, said.
00:16:22.560And he concluded after leaving the caucus, this is from his statement, that there is a better path forward than being under your leadership.
00:16:30.220And he wants to be part of leading solutions rather than opposing everything.
00:16:34.260And in an interview, he said being in caucus felt a lot like, a lot of the time, like being in a frat house rather than being in a serious political party.
00:16:44.480Well, what I make of it is I look at the words that he said about only weeks earlier about the Liberal government.
00:16:51.580He said that Mark Carney's grocery price inflation was, quote, inhumane, and that Mark Carney had broken his promise to be judged by the prices at the grocery store.
00:17:02.780And then he went against the words that he spoke and the voters who elected him for an affordable agenda.
00:17:09.540And then you have Mr. Ma, who said also that Mark Carney had had an irresponsible deficit that was driving up the cost of living and making life more expensive for his constituents.
00:17:23.820And now they've chosen to help Mr. Carney add those costs on the backs of Canadians.
00:17:29.340I think at the end of the day, they should respect that their constituents voted for our Conservative plan for a more affordable and safe country.
00:18:19.320Well, I would feel a great responsibility to defend Canadian workers and consumers, and I would live out that responsibility by getting a fair deal for the Canadian people,
00:18:33.720which removes the aim of which is to remove the unjustified American tariffs so that we can sell our goods into the U.S. market in exchange for which what we offer is a good, reliable Canadian partner for minerals, for energy, for national international security.
00:18:50.820Now, I really like what he said about Indigenous people and pipelines.
00:18:53.940Basically, what Polyev is saying is that he's going to talk to these Indigenous groups and hear their concerns, their frustrations, but at the end of the day, if they don't want a pipeline, they're going to get one anyway.
00:19:43.940I'm not saying all Indigenous people are like that, but a lot of them are.
00:19:46.540And on top of that, there's nothing wrong with what Polyev is doing.
00:19:50.880I mean, we need to get this oil out to the market.
00:19:53.380There's no debate around that because either we start selling our oil or else big parts of the world have to buy their oil from places like Saudi Arabia and Russia.
00:20:02.360And in my opinion, the money is better in our pockets than it is in the Saudis or the Russians.
00:20:10.600And yes, climate change is a factor, but the Russians and the Iranians and the Saudi Arabians, they're going to still be pumping oil regardless.
00:20:19.140So we might as well get into that and get some money for ourselves.