Mark Slapinski

00:00:00.000 I want to talk to you about a related issue here, which is about emissions, carbon emissions.

00:00:04.640 I've been covering you for years.

00:00:06.540 I cannot recall hearing you talk about concerns around climate change.

00:00:12.260 Do you worry about what climate change will do to our planet, Pierre Polyev?

00:00:16.300 Polyev continues to ruin the careers of woke journalists on an almost near daily basis.

00:00:22.160 On Monday, I showed you Polyev squaring off with seasoned CBC journalist Catherine Cullen.

00:00:27.060 Now I'm going to show you round two.

00:00:28.920 Hi, Mr. Polyev. Welcome back to the house.

00:00:31.460 Good to be with you.

00:00:32.700 You heard Danielle Smith there. 0.94

00:00:34.200 She's saying, be patient.

00:00:36.380 Albertans are finally being heard by the federal government.

00:00:39.840 You're an Alberta MP now.

00:00:41.520 She's your premier.

00:00:42.380 Are you going to take her advice? 0.94

00:00:43.940 So right off the bat, this condescending witch tries to catch Polyev off guard. 0.86

00:00:48.200 But as always, Polyev is calm and collected.

00:00:51.900 Let's watch his answer.

00:00:53.480 Well, we have no choice.

00:00:54.820 We've had to be very patient with Mark Carney because he's now been prime minister for six months.

00:01:01.560 Hard to believe.

00:01:02.880 And he hasn't delivered a permit for a single nation building project.

00:01:07.880 In fact, construction is down.

00:01:09.280 Investment is down by $62 billion under Mark Carney, which is the biggest net outflow of investment in history, according to the National Bank.

00:01:20.340 And so far, he's succeeded at setting up an office with one employee.

00:01:25.560 And he sent a list of five projects that were already approved or almost approved before he got there.

00:01:32.880 And now he's picking up the football in the end zone to spike it.

00:01:38.360 But in reality, you know, some of the projects that he put on his list have already been under construction.

00:01:44.200 It's really incredible to see a prime minister show up and take credit for something that happened before he even got there and then claim that it is a new achievement.

00:01:54.260 But I think we're going to see a lot of that.

00:01:55.620 I think he's been very good at confusing activity with achievement.

00:02:00.700 Lots of meetings, lots of politicians patting themselves on the back.

00:02:04.220 So Polyev gets off to a great start right here, giving Carney a series of love taps.

00:02:08.920 And he's right.

00:02:09.920 Carney is all talk.

00:02:11.140 Talk, talk, talk.

00:02:12.200 Just like Justin Trudeau.

00:02:13.740 But Colin is a seasoned journalist.

00:02:15.600 So let's watch how she tries to flip the script right here. 1.00

00:02:18.060 So is Danielle Smith confused then?

00:02:20.040 Is that what you're saying?

00:02:20.700 If you look at the actual results, there have been none.

00:02:24.820 As for a pipeline to the Pacific, we already had one.

00:02:31.020 It was called the Northern Gateway.

00:02:32.640 Justin Trudeau killed it.

00:02:33.960 Well, the courts said that there was not sufficient consultation. 0.97

00:02:37.180 I have to say, this woman is very rude. 1.00

00:02:39.500 She keeps interrupting the leader of the official opposition every time he says something she doesn't like.

00:02:44.580 Good for Polyev.

00:02:45.440 He's calm, prepared, and ready to push back with some cold, hard facts.

00:02:49.580 In fact, the project was approved, and the Trudeau cabinet killed it.

00:02:56.400 They vetoed it.

00:02:57.440 That is a fact.

00:02:59.160 And so that was a multibillion-dollar project that would have been completed seven or eight years ago.

00:03:04.080 Mr. Carney testified against that project.

00:03:07.920 So this might be another...

00:03:08.780 And you're saying testified at a parliamentary committee.

00:03:10.400 He did.

00:03:10.800 He testified at a parliamentary committee against a pipeline from Hardesty, Alberta, to Kitimat, BC, which is exactly the project with some very minor modifications that Ms. Smith is pushing for now.

00:03:22.540 So we're hoping that Mr. Carney has flip-flopped on this, and he'll go ahead with it.

00:03:27.600 But what I would really say on this is that when it comes to these projects, we have 38 projects the federal government has been holding up that are in the Impact Assessment Act system already.

00:03:40.240 They're in progress right now.

00:03:41.600 They only need to get a permit to go ahead.

00:03:44.200 They don't need a government grant, a government handout, a press release, a photo op.

00:03:49.360 They really need one thing from Mark Carney.

00:03:52.700 Get out of the way and grant a permit so that private money can build private projects that actually make money for our country rather than cost the tax.

00:04:01.220 I love how calm and collected Paliyev is.

00:04:03.440 He just sits there with a slight grin, ready to push back as this awful woman continuously cuts him off. 1.00

00:04:09.520 But just you wait.

00:04:10.840 Paliyev is getting warmed up here.

00:04:12.680 The best is yet to come.

00:04:14.040 I do not understand, though, why you are saying he's in the way.

00:04:18.240 Nothing to see here.

00:04:20.300 The office, you know, you're dismissing it as one employee.

00:04:23.100 That's the CEO.

00:04:23.940 I don't know how many other people have or haven't been hired.

00:04:27.420 But you have Daniel Smith, Tim Houston, Wob Canu, the business community themselves saying this is important.

00:04:34.640 Daniel Smith saying be patient.

00:04:36.300 How is it that you're saying nothing to see here when so many other people seem to think across the political spectrum seem to think that this is meaningful?

00:04:44.820 Again, I think she's right.

00:04:46.080 We have to be patient because of Mark Carney's snail's pace.

00:04:51.240 But that's not what she's saying.

00:04:52.620 What I'm saying is that Mark Carney has been prime minister for six months.

00:04:57.680 Now, he promised that we would move at unprecedented speeds, that this was like wartime.

00:05:04.620 Six months has gone.

00:05:05.640 But let me give you an example.

00:05:06.480 The Germans built an import terminal for LNG from concept to completion in 194 days.

00:05:15.700 That is not the permit or the announcement or the press release.

00:05:18.940 That means the thing was functional in about the amount of time Mark Carney has been prime minister, during which time he has not approved a single major project.

00:05:29.400 What he has done is taken five projects that were basically approved already, sent them to yet another bureaucracy, which is going to review them and consider them going ahead.

00:05:40.280 And there is not an oil pipeline on that list.

00:05:43.260 I don't want to be negative, so I'm going to be positive here.

00:05:46.100 We're proposing the Canadian Sovereignty Act, which would get the government out of the way so that we could rapidly build – the private industry, without taxpayer subsidies, could build pipelines, mines, LNG terminals, nuclear plants, and more.

00:06:03.980 It would expedite the 38 projects that have been waiting for federal approval, and it would invite the hundreds more that the federal government is blocking, according to Scott Moe.

00:06:14.200 So let's pass the sovereignty.

00:06:16.260 I'm offering Mark Carney to take the act and pass it.

00:06:20.320 I'll give him credit for it, and we'll get it done.

00:06:22.180 Scott Moe said there were 100 projects that were priorities.

00:06:24.260 He did not say the federal government was blocking.

00:06:25.700 I love how Paulyev just continues delivering fact after fact after cold, hard fact.

00:06:31.240 Carney lied to Canadians.

00:06:32.980 He lied to Liberals.

00:06:34.480 He said that we're in a crisis right now.

00:06:36.980 But as soon as he got elected, well, maybe a few weeks after, he went on vacation.

00:06:41.300 All his liberal MPs are on vacation, and they're not doing anything.

00:06:45.900 If Paulyev was in office, we'd be getting stuff done.

00:06:48.380 We'd be getting projects completed.

00:06:50.220 Unfortunately, none of that's happening.

00:06:52.360 I want to talk to you about a related issue here, which is about emissions, carbon emissions.

00:06:57.060 I've been covering you for years.

00:06:59.040 I cannot recall hearing you talk about concerns around climate change.

00:07:04.460 Do you worry about what climate change will do to our planet, Pierre Paulyev?

00:07:08.700 Did you see that?

00:07:09.520 That woman just asked the million-dollar question. 1.00

00:07:12.880 Now, listen to Paulyev.

00:07:14.280 He's going to give the answer that's going to ruin this woman's career. 1.00

00:07:17.700 Sure.

00:07:18.180 That's why I'm so disappointed with the very problematic approach of the liberal government,

00:07:24.980 which has been to drive up energy costs and block projects from going ahead that would help the environment.

00:07:31.060 So are you an environmentalist, Pierre Paulyev?

00:07:33.540 Sure.

00:07:34.000 You can call me whatever you like.

00:07:35.080 No, I want to know what you'd call yourself.

00:07:36.660 I mean, we are talking about sea levels rising, worried about loss of biodiversity.

00:07:42.840 You worry about those things.

00:07:45.400 Sure.

00:07:45.920 And I also have solutions.

00:07:47.240 Like, if we were to displace sturdy Asian coal-fired plants with clean Canadian natural gas,

00:07:55.600 according to the National Bank, we could reduce global emissions by 2.5 billion tons,

00:08:03.020 which is three times the emissions of all of Canada for a year.

00:08:06.760 But to do that, you need liquefaction terminals, like the one that Prime Minister Harper approved, LNG Canada.

00:08:14.780 And we shouldn't be talking about having one more.

00:08:17.380 We should be talking about having 18 or 19 LNG liquefaction plants.

00:08:22.300 That's the number that were proposed when the Liberals took office.

00:08:24.880 And so what I propose, let's take our natural gas, which is very clean, which is very cheap in Canada.

00:08:31.840 Right now, we only get $3 per million metric British thermal units.

00:08:35.880 And let's sell it to Asia for $14.

00:08:38.280 We could help power the biggest, the most populous continent by getting them off of dirtier coal and reducing global emissions.

00:08:46.020 But the real difference between myself and the Liberals on this is they believe in keeping it in the ground.

00:08:52.660 Those are Mr. Carney's words, by the way.

00:08:54.280 He wrote them.

00:08:55.200 We can debate whether he's flip-flopped on that as well.

00:08:58.580 Or the conservative approach, which is let's use our energy to grow the paychecks of our people and protect the environment.

00:09:06.140 They believe in energy poverty.

00:09:08.560 I believe in energy abundance.

00:09:11.180 And that is the approach that we would take to the environment.

00:09:13.100 You say you're worried about climate change.

00:09:15.020 Why have we not seen you ever commit to emissions reductions targets?

00:09:18.500 I just did right now.

00:09:19.640 That's not a target.

00:09:20.440 That's saying we should do more to reduce our emissions.

00:09:22.880 That's not about meeting the Paris targets.

00:09:24.640 That's not saying our 2030 targets are right, wrong, should be higher, lower.

00:09:29.340 The current government is not meeting its emissions targets.

00:09:31.820 But I'm asking whether you think those are valuable targets, not about what the federal government is doing, which you've been clear about.

00:09:36.920 It would be very easy.

00:09:38.180 In fact, it would be very easy to meet all of those targets if we include the global reductions that the export of Canadian nuclear and natural gas would engender.

00:09:51.040 And so I'd say, sure, not only we could reduce, we could displace the equivalent of three years of emissions in Canada by sending our Canadian natural gas over to Asia and displacing dirty coal.

00:10:07.360 I mean, you know, the Asian economies are adding these coal-fired plants, one after the other, because they don't have access to affordable natural gas.

00:10:15.260 We have the most affordable gas.

00:10:17.400 It's easy for us to liquefy it because our cold climate does most of the work.

00:10:21.700 And we have the shortest shipping distances to both Asia and Europe of any country in the Americas.

00:10:27.280 So why would we not use that kind of pragmatic approach that enriches rather than impoverish?

00:10:32.080 Boom, that's it.

00:10:33.480 Poliev just won the debate right there.

00:10:35.320 If this woman had any sense, she would end the interview and immediately quit her career. 1.00

00:10:40.520 However, she keeps going.

00:10:42.580 Let's watch it.

00:10:43.480 Your policy proposals here because our time is finite.

00:10:46.240 You have called on the government to get rid of the temporary foreign worker program.

00:10:49.480 The prime minister has said he will adjust the program to make it more strategic.

00:10:53.620 Why do you believe that there is never a need for these workers outside of the agricultural sector?

00:10:58.680 Because we have unemployed Canadians. 0.90

00:11:03.100 Since Mr. Carney took office, we've hemorrhaged 86,000 jobs.

00:11:09.100 Surely some of that is related to U.S. tariffs and uncertainty.

00:11:12.580 Right, the tariffs that Mr. Carney promised he would manage to get rid of through his promise

00:11:19.120 to negotiate a win by July 21st.

00:11:21.280 And it's also, according to the Business Council, the red tape of the federal government

00:11:27.240 is responsible for more economic damage than even the tariffs.

00:11:30.240 That's what the business community says.

00:11:31.540 But, you know, it's true that, in fairness, Mr. Carney has failed to keep his promise on

00:11:37.900 negotiating a deal, and that has obviously hurt our economy.

00:11:42.240 This woman has zero self-awareness. 1.00

00:11:44.720 She was completely humiliated by Polyev on live TV, and yet she keeps going as if nothing 0.94

00:11:50.000 happened.

00:11:51.300 I'm going to let the interview roll for a bit, and then I'll jump in later with some more

00:11:54.120 commentary.

00:11:55.140 He said he would only sign a deal if it was good for Canada.

00:11:57.820 He did not promise a deal under no conditions.

00:11:59.760 He promised to, quote, negotiate a win.

00:12:03.100 He promised to have a deal by July 21st.

00:12:05.820 Those are broken promises.

00:12:07.840 Now, you asked me about temporary foreign workers, but I had to respond to your interjection.

00:12:14.380 And so on temporary foreign workers, we've got 350,000 people in Toronto alone who are unemployed.

00:12:22.700 We have the worst job numbers since the 1990s for our youth.

00:12:28.620 And when you have 14% unemployment for youth, it is appalling that we're bringing in low-wage 1.00

00:12:36.880 temporary foreign workers who are exploited, again and again, exploited by those seeking

00:12:43.560 to profit off of paying below-market wages.

00:12:45.880 And the Liberal government is on track this year to having the largest number of temporary

00:12:51.640 foreign workers in Canadian history.

00:12:54.140 But again, there are a multitude of factors affecting the job market.

00:12:58.480 AI, tariffs, some of the numbers of temporary foreign workers you've talked about more broadly

00:13:03.240 are renewals of people who have been here for some time.

00:13:06.400 Do you worry about telling Canadians that these job losses, tying it directly to temporary

00:13:11.280 foreign workers, that people will perceive that as blaming temporary foreign workers?

00:13:16.460 No, because I haven't blamed temporary foreign workers.

00:13:19.980 I've said precisely the opposite.

00:13:22.380 They are great people.

00:13:23.860 They're not to blame.

00:13:24.940 The Liberal government is to blame.

00:13:26.720 It's the Liberals that are bringing people.

00:13:29.140 The temporary foreign workers are just seeing a job opportunity and getting a work permit.

00:13:34.880 They're just doing what the Liberal government told them to do.

00:13:37.320 But I think it's appalling that when I go to towns across this country, parents tell me

00:13:43.160 their kids cannot get jobs to start off and start saving for school because, in part,

00:13:50.660 the 100,000-plus temporary foreign workers that employers prefer to have, in some cases,

00:13:57.700 because they can pay them less.

00:13:59.480 And my answer is, let's raise wages.

00:14:03.760 And what I say to everybody is, raise wages.

00:14:08.600 Let's pay more. 0.81

00:14:09.340 If you want to attract Canadian kids, pay great Canadian wages. 0.81

00:14:13.060 Stronger take-home pay is one of my big priorities for this fall session.

00:14:17.480 And that means ensuring that even though there aren't a lot of jobs in Canada right now,

00:14:21.620 they should go to Canadians first. 1.00

00:14:23.280 I would like to switch gears here and talk about a developing news story, which is the

00:14:26.700 assassination of U.S. conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

00:14:29.600 The FBI has this morning announced that they have arrested a suspect.

00:14:32.480 In this country, when we talk about political violence, you and the Prime Minister have

00:14:36.660 both said, it is never justified.

00:14:38.980 But we know that there are growing threats against politicians.

00:14:41.660 That includes yourself and your family.

00:14:44.120 Yes.

00:14:44.660 Are you worried?

00:14:47.420 I worry for my family.

00:14:48.960 I'll be honest with you.

00:14:50.060 We have had very serious threats to the point where the RCMP decided that it merited protection

00:14:59.460 for my family and I for a prolonged period of time.

00:15:05.960 And they've been multiple and they have been serious threats.

00:15:08.680 And I think we need to secure all of our political leaders, not just me.

00:15:15.440 I think all the political leaders and ministers who face real threats, according to the RCMP's

00:15:23.860 assessment, they should have protection so that something like this does not happen on

00:15:29.000 our turf here in Canada.

00:15:30.780 The fact that you're saying that should happen suggests that perhaps there are instances

00:15:33.900 where you think it's not happening.

00:15:35.220 There's not sufficient securing.

00:15:37.480 Listen, I don't know if you can secure everything, but I think we should do everything.

00:15:42.100 I'm not going to accuse the government of anything on that front.

00:15:46.040 I know that all the political leaders would share my view that this is unfortunately a

00:15:52.640 risk that's out there and we should do everything we can to mitigate it.

00:15:56.200 More broadly, what do you think we should be doing differently on a more societal level,

00:16:02.580 political dialogue to try to address this?

00:16:07.300 We don't know what motivated this person.

00:16:09.320 So I can't, I have a hard time saying what would, what different behavior would have avoided

00:16:14.880 him doing this act.

00:16:17.240 But I just, I think we need to make clear that you can't shut people down just because

00:16:23.260 you disagree with them.

00:16:25.020 Obviously, Mr. Kirk was killed because he expressed a contrary point of view.

00:16:28.840 He said something that somebody didn't think that they should have to hear, but that's

00:16:34.000 democracy.

00:16:35.260 Democracy doesn't mean you get to silence someone just because you disagree.

00:16:39.320 disagree with what they have to say.

00:16:41.200 Disagreement and debate is necessary in a free and open democracy.

00:16:46.700 And we can't let the terrorist who carried out this assassination change that.

00:16:52.980 Is there a change?

00:16:54.000 So that's, that's what we shouldn't do.

00:16:55.640 Is there a change?

00:16:57.020 We've heard about the idea of disagreeing agreeably.

00:17:00.640 Is there a tonal change in this country, in Canada's politics that is needed to keep people

00:17:05.840 safe in the face of this climate?

00:17:08.400 I think we have to, we have to inculcate the idea that you're going to, we're all going

00:17:15.820 to go through life hearing things we don't agree with, and we don't get to shut down contrary

00:17:20.020 opinions.

00:17:20.480 We have to debate them.

00:17:21.900 We have to, sometimes it's frustrating, maddening, but that's life in a democracy.

00:17:27.560 And, you know, we have to raise our kids and we have to teach all citizens that freedom

00:17:35.080 of speech means, includes hearing things you don't like.

00:17:39.480 And we can't censor people, attack them, try to destroy their lives, fire them, kick them

00:17:48.180 out of their place of work, whether it's a media organization or, or carry out violence

00:17:53.660 as a mechanism to silence views that we don't agree with.

00:17:57.620 Obviously, there's a pretty dramatic difference between a political assassination and someone,

00:18:04.040 I mean, the examples you gave of somebody losing their job because they, you know, they said

00:18:10.020 something offensive to a reporter in front of a TV camera there.

00:18:13.220 I think there was a very public example of that losing their job.

00:18:15.480 Those things are not really the same.

00:18:17.960 No, they're not.

00:18:19.160 That's not what I was saying.

00:18:20.260 What I'm saying is that you need, we need to live in a society where people are free

00:18:23.420 to express themselves and where everyone understands they're going to have to hear contrary opinions.

00:18:27.940 I hear them all the time.

00:18:29.120 It's part of the reality.

00:18:29.740 But this example, I guess, is relevant.

00:18:31.460 Is that, that particular case of the reporters being harassed, people yelling this offensive,

00:18:35.460 F her, right in the, um, talks about the limits. 0.99

00:18:38.600 Like it's true. 0.67

00:18:39.560 I understand what you're saying that there, people should be able to speak their minds, but

00:18:43.000 we also need limits on what is appropriate when people shouldn't be harassed in the workplace

00:18:48.880 and whatnot.

00:18:50.160 Like, do you think it's inappropriate for someone to lose their job when they conduct

00:18:55.540 what appears to be an act of public harassment?

00:18:57.860 Of course.

00:18:58.740 Yeah.

00:18:59.460 I guess I'm just trying to understand where you see the line, given that you put all those

00:19:02.740 things in the same category.

00:19:04.680 Where I see the line is that people have the freedom to express political opinions that are

00:19:10.140 contrary to others.

00:19:11.060 But of course, that does not include carrying out harassment, uh, uh, against, in fact,

00:19:16.020 it's, my point was exactly the opposite of that.

00:19:18.680 If you're harassing someone, um, or you're aggressing against someone because of their

00:19:23.880 political point of view, then you're behaving inappropriate and that, and that should not

00:19:28.040 go on.

00:19:28.580 Okay.

00:19:28.760 We're going to have the conversation there.

00:19:29.900 Appreciate your time today.

00:19:30.680 Thank you very much.

00:19:32.600 And I'm surprised this woman even had the nerve to interview Polly Ev again. 0.97

00:19:36.580 I'm going to tell you something.

00:19:37.880 This will likely be the last time she ever does that. 0.99

00:19:40.400 CBC will not let her embarrass herself again.

00:19:43.580 And I wouldn't be surprised if she gets fired over this. 1.00

00:19:45.960 That was a terrible performance.

00:19:47.860 This is just another reason why we need Polly Ev in office. 1.00

00:19:51.040 And we got to get rid of that clown, Mark Carney. 0.92

00:19:53.360 This guy is calm, cool, collected. 0.98

00:19:56.520 He's got the brain of a supercomputer and a black belt in common sense.

00:19:59.940 And that's exactly what we need right now.

00:20:02.440 Now for next steps, I'll be live streaming the question period on Monday, and it'll be

00:20:06.340 starting at two o'clock Toronto time.

00:20:08.060 So stick around for that.

00:20:09.400 And if you haven't bookmarked the link, please do it now before you forget.

00:20:13.080 Now, like I was talking about yesterday, I was thinking about live streaming the anti-immigration

00:20:16.960 rally today in Toronto.

00:20:18.720 However, out of an abundance of caution, I decided not to.

00:20:22.160 After what happened with Charlie Kirk, I want to be careful.

00:20:24.860 And I think I made the right move.

00:20:26.400 The bomb squad was at Christie Pits in Toronto today.

00:20:29.300 And there's unconfirmed reports that Antifa tried to use a bomb on Patriots.

00:20:33.860 Scary stuff.

00:20:34.900 But like I said, we're at war right now.

00:20:37.260 The left has declared war on us, and it's only going to get worse.

00:20:40.580 However, we need to stay peaceful.

00:20:42.880 Of course, we're not just going to sit down and take it.

00:20:44.800 We are going to fight back, but we're going to fight back with words.

00:20:48.460 We're going to fight back at the polls, and we're going to fight back in court.

00:20:52.220 We're going to use our words.

00:20:53.520 We're not going to use weapons.

00:20:54.880 We're smarter than that.

00:20:56.220 But anyway, that's all I have for you today, Patriots.

00:20:58.780 Talk to you tomorrow.

ROUND 2： Poilievre Does Rematch With CBC's Catherine Cullen

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