Florian Geyer is a writer, podcaster, and podcaster. He's been making podcasts for over 20 years, and is now working on a new project called Mysterium Fascista, which is a right-wing conspiracy theory podcast that focuses on the right wing and fascistic past, present and future. In this episode of Area and Insights, I have a chat with Florian about his journey into podcasting.
00:05:36.480I guess for me, my political development started when I was about 13 and with Alex Jones and kind of the conspiracy world.
00:05:45.940When I was a young boy, I wasn't really involved in politics and my family wasn't particularly political.
00:05:52.200I would call them perhaps moderate conservative or apolitical.
00:05:58.660But around when I was 13, my parents divorced.
00:06:02.620And from my father, I was getting this kind of Alex Jones, more kind of conspiracy influence.
00:06:09.180And I don't know if there was anything really valuable there, except for the fact that it deconditioned me from the mainstream narrative.
00:06:16.460So when I was in school, I was in middle school and high school, I was never much for what was being presented, what was being offered to me.
00:06:28.120And so I went through a couple of stages where, oh, well, the anarchist stage.
00:06:33.780And as I kind of progressed, it got to the point where I was a libertarian, but I wouldn't have known to call myself one.
00:06:40.140And what happened is the decisive pivot towards the right happened after I discovered 4chan and started going on pole and lurking.
00:06:51.100And so when I was about 16, I would say, and that, of course, is a very effective tool for radicalization.
00:06:56.620And so after I discovered pole, you know, I just, you know, I started to embrace right wing politics.
00:07:04.260I started to, you know, to think of myself as a libertarian.
00:07:06.780I started to, you know, move more and more in that direction.
00:07:12.660And the real progression into fascism, which is what I, you know, what I call myself now, started with near reaction with NRX.
00:07:22.840I remember when it first started to appear about a year and a half, two years ago, two and a half years ago on pole.
00:07:36.560So it was, you know, there was something substantiative in reactionary thought and a concreteness and integrity to the rhetoric that I just could, you know,
00:07:49.320that just wasn't there in libertarianism.
00:07:53.180And I hadn't seen it presented in an integrated form in fascism yet.
00:07:58.060So NRX was, I guess, the avenue through which I began my journey towards the alt-right.
00:08:05.420So for my first year at university, you know, I was big into NRX.
00:08:09.580You know, I was reading some Moldbug, reading Carlisle, reading a lot of Radish magazine, which is still really good.
00:08:18.760He doesn't make anything anymore, but what he has put out is fantastic stuff.
00:08:24.880And this, like, you know, I was reading a lot of reactionary blogs, that kind of stuff.
00:08:31.640And eventually I sort of stumbled on TRS through one avenue or another.
00:08:38.800And with TRS, well, I started listening to The Daily Show, which was at about episode maybe seven or eight, so fairly early on in the podcasting.
00:08:51.580And things sort of started to evolve from there.
00:08:56.280But it was, especially in the early days, just so entertaining, so funny.
00:09:02.300I think that was really the big appeal.
00:09:04.600And that kind of, you know, right-wing integrative viewpoint that they had where they were post-libertarian, post-reactionary was appealing.
00:09:14.920And things sort of progressed as the community developed.
00:09:19.060The forums came up and I was, you know, active and involved in there.
00:09:22.400And, you know, they started making more podcasts.
00:09:24.260So I remember when Fascination came out and I've been listening to that from the beginning and so on and so on.
00:09:30.340And, yeah, I think I had always, the idea of, you know, making a podcast has always sort of floated around in the back of my mind.
00:09:40.640Voice is the medium that I'm the most eloquent with and the one I prefer to communicate in.
00:09:45.480So it seemed like a natural application of my affinities.
00:09:50.380But that didn't come to any fruition until, as I mentioned before, the Fast Course and that Nationalist Review Online.
00:09:56.900So really just in kind of the past year or so.
00:10:00.760Well, it's really good to hear that there's been like a rapid acceleration from libertarianism into nationalism.
00:10:06.840And it's also really good to hear that the propaganda that we're putting out, the content that we're putting out on the alt-right is having its desired effect.
00:10:19.840I mean, myself, it took me a long time to come to nationalism.
00:10:23.080And I think most people start out as libertarians without realizing it.
00:10:27.620You know, we don't want to see too much intrusion in our lives.
00:10:32.360But where the nature of things, before the Internet came along, it was very hard to come across the truth about race and the truth about nationalism and World War II and fascism and all of this.
00:10:45.440And now that it is there, it means that young people like yourself can come to the truth a lot quicker than before,
00:10:51.600which means that you can then become active proponents of the truth, active in the movement itself and helping bring others to the truth, which is, you know, a really good thing.
00:11:03.240I mean, that's a really inspiring story that you've got there, I think, Florian.
00:11:10.460Well, I mean, it's funny because I see the progression.
00:11:13.580It's weird because I've had the same thing happen with my dad, of all people.
00:11:17.600And my dad, he's got, you know, 45 years on me.
00:11:20.080But when he started out, when I was 13, you know, he was very much in the same way, Alex Jones, sort of libertarian type.
00:11:26.900And it's, you know, his own political progression kind of mirrored mine.
00:11:30.880And so it got to the point where we were both red-pilled on the JQ independently at the same time and kind of both came into, you know, right-wing nationalist politics.
00:12:09.940Yeah, well, I think in terms of the modern emanation of the fascist idea, Codriano is definitely the kind of fascist leader par excellence.
00:12:20.200His blending of orthodox Christianity, if nothing else, he is always a poignant example to point to when people say, oh, well, you can't be a fascist, you're a Christian.
00:12:30.880Right, and it's a very excellent example of this, you know, people have been calling the logos fascism implemented.
00:12:38.820The idea that the political emanation of Christianity is naturally just fascism.
00:12:46.160For me, though, a lot of my political inspiration comes, it's in the pre-modern world.
00:12:50.240I still have kind of a reactionary heart.
00:12:56.600So, you know, I admire the ideal system for me was feudalism.
00:13:03.860And I think that it composed the healthiest, most organic, natural fascistic system that has ever sort of been seen in Western Europe.
00:13:15.240And so that, for me, is where I draw a lot of my inspiration and I look back to as kind of the benchmark for all governance is, you know, kind of tribalistic feudalism.
00:13:27.880And obviously, in the modern world, it's not as applicable as it was in the past.
00:13:32.660And so we have to move forward and our ideology shifts.
00:13:36.080But the way I look at it is that fascism is not just an ideology, it's a worldview.
00:13:41.580It's a set of values that comes from a spiritual superstructure.
00:13:46.100And so that spiritual superstructure that Codriano had is the same one that our ancestors in Western Europe had and the same one that Francisco Franco had and every other one of the national socialists had.
00:13:55.740And so for me, what's more important than the contemporaneous emanation and form that the ideology takes as applied to the people, as applied to the time, is the worldview behind that.
00:14:09.800The spiritual firmament that informs how we act in the political realm.
00:14:18.460And the feudal system was a very Christian system as well.
00:14:22.360I mean, that was really sort of the height of the belief in Christianity, I think, in Britain was the Anglo-Saxon feudal system.
00:14:29.600Well, that brings me to the next question, which was about your Christianity.
00:14:34.300And have you always been a Christian or is this something that you came to after discovering nationalism?
00:14:43.920You know, I came from a Catholic family.
00:14:46.040My mother is French-Canadian, not Quinaigua for posterity.
00:14:51.280And my father converted when he married her.
00:14:53.360So I had, you know, but it was very much an Easter and Christmas type of arrangement.
00:14:57.020I didn't have serious interaction with the faith, despite the fact that I went to, in Canada, there are government-funded Catholic schools.
00:15:04.700So I went to a Catholic school and I received all of the sacraments, but I never had any serious interaction with the faith.
00:15:48.700But those were very formative influences on me.
00:15:53.280And then what happened is in my last year of high school, I was thinking about what I wanted to do with the rest of my life.
00:16:00.520And I kept coming back to the idea of the Catholic Church and, you know, of the priesthood.
00:16:10.080And I realized that, well, probably I'm drawn in this direction for a reason.
00:16:13.620And if this is the way that I'm interested in, then I probably ought to start going back to church.
00:16:17.780So that's what I did is I started going back to church when I was about two years ago, when I was 18, 17.
00:16:24.480And things progressed very rapidly from there.
00:16:28.660Well, I think it's only natural to react against the modern liberal church.
00:16:36.200I mean, there's a sort of instant dislike for the way that it's put across to us, because I think it's become totally twisted from what it originally was.
00:16:45.260I know that you're into the traditional side of things rather than the modern theology that sort of pushed on us, that we've got to love all the other races and allow all of them to come in and remove the crucifixes and raise Islam and the Jews up to higher positions than we're in ourselves.
00:17:05.580You know, you sort of react against it.
00:17:07.900And personally, myself, I found that when I was reading the Bible, it was completely different to what the what the church was saying.
00:17:14.000And I find myself, I look at what the Bible says and find inspiration from that.
00:17:18.440But, you know, I don't actually go to a church.
00:17:20.780So, you know, you're actually taking part in the practical side of it and and trying to influence it from within, whereas I'm taking inspiration from it and mainly just sort of online stuff.
00:17:32.480So it's good to hear that you're actually doing that.
00:17:34.940And it's not just an online brotherhood that you have.
00:17:39.700It's it's an actual physical one where you're going out there to the church and studying it.
00:17:44.140And one of the things that I did also wanted to ask you about that is, do you have any particular favorite church fathers or significant Christian figures?
00:17:54.640Sure. In terms of church fathers, ones that I admire the most, St. John Chrysostom, the greatest of the Greek fathers, is probably one of the greatest doctors of the church that have ever been produced.
00:18:07.620You know, they rank him consistently with Thomas Aquinas and Augustine in terms of his influence.
00:18:12.720For him, he historically where he was and what he did and his writings were so prolific and just so profound, particularly on the Jews.
00:18:26.880And then there are other figures that I admire a lot for their own personal virtue, not necessarily their theology.
00:18:31.940And so I look at guys like Athanasius of Alexandria is really a model to be followed in the current times, but also Godfrey de Bouillon, who organized the first crusade.
00:18:44.700And I've got personal devotions to St. John of Arc and also St. John de Braybeuf, who was one of the Canadian martyrs who was killed by the Iroquois when they were trying to convert the Huron in the 1600s in North America.
00:18:57.600I think I heard you mentioning that in the last podcast, something to do with that.
00:19:05.080I thought John Chrysostom would come up.
00:19:08.040In fact, I was certain John Chrysostom would come up there.
00:19:10.900Godfrey de Bouillon, I don't really know that much about him.
00:19:13.640I know that he was involved in the first crusade, and I'm sure there's probably differing reports of him because of that.
00:19:20.300So it'll probably be an interesting one to check out.
00:19:22.620I'd recommend that our listeners check out those names that you just brought up there.
00:19:27.600So did you actually decide to start studying as a priest then?
00:19:48.040So once I'm done, I'm going to enter seminary.
00:19:50.660But yeah, I am studying to be a priest.
00:19:54.080And in terms of other students, I have met some.
00:19:58.320I've got a few good friends, one of whom is from Russia, who are very traditionalist or orthodox.
00:20:06.120You know, they're strong in the faith, and they kind of reject the modernism that's around them.
00:20:10.100But theology universities are much like the rest of the world, mostly paused.
00:20:16.800And there's big divisions within them, and the majority opinion is not orthodox.
00:20:22.100And I can tell you for certain that I've never been so angry as I have been attending theology university.
00:20:28.440Because in my studies, you just, you run into people who are, who, you know, they preach heresy and blasphemy from the university classroom, right, in a Catholic university.
00:20:41.260And so it can be incredibly frustrating at times having to deal with just the rampant pause, the rampant degeneration, the heresy that abounds.
00:20:55.400And so it's not kind of all, you know, the green grass of orthodoxy and the flowers of the church, so to speak.
00:21:03.700There are just as many divisions and contradictions as the modern world presents within, you know, theological academia.
00:21:12.360But there are good, young, orthodox men.
00:21:18.620And I think that, you know, a lot of these guys, like, they're in many of the same situations that a lot of the guys on the alt-right or, you know, the fascist right were before.
00:21:33.140Before we became radicalized, before we kind of politically saw the truth.
00:21:38.220So I think that there is this kind of core of young men, universally, who are rejecting the modern world, who are embracing traditionalism, who love orthodoxy, and who want to reclaim their culture and their heritage and their faith.
00:21:55.000I'm sure that your lecturers or the people that you're listening to, I'm sure that they would have problems actually criticizing you if you're bringing up factual reports of traditionalism in the work that you're doing.
00:22:09.960You know, you say that it's very heretical what they're preaching.
00:22:32.920And this professor was talking about feminist theology.
00:22:35.480And so this woman was, she was a minister, I think, maybe with the United Church of Canada, which is by far the most positive denomination.
00:22:45.060And so she said something in class which just, you know, had me seeing red, basically.
00:22:53.520She said something to the effect of, quote, there is no hierarchy between spirit and matter.
00:22:59.640And so I raised my hand and I asked her, I said, well, excuse me, professor, how can you say that when all of scripture and the church fathers and tradition seems to hold the exact opposite opinion, that there is a hierarchy between spirit and matter and spirit is superior to matter?
00:23:18.620And her response was basically, oh, well, the theologians that we're dealing with, they don't hold that view.
00:23:23.440And so this is just the general attitude that I run into in academia is it's like everywhere else.
00:23:29.720They just ignore what they don't like because they have no arguments against it.
00:23:34.880And just the only argument seems to be, oh, well, it's different now because of the current year.
00:23:42.700I was doing this reading for sexual ethics class and this one kind of Protestant, Quaker, Presbyterian type fellow.
00:23:50.040And, you know, he's making the argument in 1 Corinthians 6, 9, where Paul is kind of saying, oh, well, neither sodomites nor drunkards nor fornicators shall inherit the kingdom of heaven.
00:24:00.040Well, he's making an argument that Paul is that he doesn't mean what he says, that this is a cultural attitude, that opposition to sodomy is something that was just, you know, Paul was such a cultural bigot in his time.
00:24:12.600And it doesn't apply to us universally.
00:24:14.320And so that's the thing is these people, they're not, you know, they don't believe in the divine inspiration of scripture.
00:24:19.160I mean, they don't believe in any sort of, you know, literal significance to the text.
00:24:24.800That's not to say that there is not spiritual, allegorical meaning behind it, but they don't believe that there's any substance to what was written.
00:24:33.840And so it's just moral relativism, right?
00:24:36.720They use scripture as a tool to justify their own shitty behavior.
00:24:40.940Yeah, I think that's the best way of putting it there.
00:24:43.460Well, so you're obviously supporting traditional Christianity and these are your influences.
00:24:49.040So what made you pick the name Florian Geyer then?
00:25:00.100When I was, the name Florian Geyer comes from the song, actually, Florian Geyer lead, or We Are the Black Band of Florian Geyer, which is a traditional German folk song, I think, from the 19th century.
00:25:13.540And what had happened is there was an SS division, I think the 34th SS cavalry division was named after Florian Geyer.
00:25:20.340And so I had picked this as the name for a SOC Gmail account.
00:25:24.300And when I got into the alt-right, well, you know, I felt that it was important to, you know, make a new alias to operate just within the political sphere.
00:25:33.180And so I picked the name that was attached to my email account, which is Florian Geyer.
00:25:37.360I only later learned that the actual Florian Geyer had to have been, you know, a Protestant hedge knight and peasant rebel leader who was famous for burning down, you know, monasteries and nunneries and killing priests and stuff like this.
00:25:51.320And so you can kind of imagine the high irony and surprise that I felt.
00:27:14.160Yeah, the way I see it, I think he was quite obviously a Christian from the, or at least knew the Bible well, just from a lot of the references that he uses, the words that he used, the terminology that he uses, and the allegories that he uses in Mein Kampf.
00:27:29.300I think they show quite a familiarity with the Bible and with the Christian faith.
00:27:34.700And I also see National Socialism itself, the principles that it's based upon, as being Christian principles.
00:27:42.760Christian principles are, you know, I mean, Christianity is the true faith because those principles are eternal principles.
00:27:50.060And he was the first guy to put those principles to work in a state and try to actually implement them with the state.
00:27:58.900This, you know, this putting the nation's needs above the needs of the individual is, you know, that's love your neighbor as you love yourself.
00:28:06.800And they're getting rid of usury, you know, all these key points, no tolerance for homosexuality.
00:28:14.300All of these things are key points of traditional Christianity that have just been sort of thrown away in the last century, really, which has caused so much damage, the church doing that, when the church really should have been standing up for these things.
00:28:29.160So, you know, I definitely think Hitler was a Christian by actions, even if he didn't profess it.
00:28:36.780Just, you know, and it is more important what you do than what you say, I think, as well.
00:29:59.980And I think that, you know, you're quite correct.
00:30:05.500And this is one of the things that fascism brings to the table that white nationalism just lacks, is that race alone is not enough.
00:30:12.180I mean, if we've got an ethically homogenous nation full of 100% Bavarian phenotype white people, but they're all degenerate and fuck dogs, then we've got nothing to be proud of.
00:30:22.380You know, we've just got a very pale Sodom.
00:30:25.820And so I think that the nation is built upon many layers.
00:30:41.420I think that's a very good way of looking at it.
00:30:44.500Do you think we'll be able to retake the establishment church then?
00:30:47.580Or do you see the future of traditionalist Christianity being carried forward by separate organizations like the SSPX?
00:30:54.900Well, I think that, to quote Pope Benedict, I think that in the future the church will be much more faithful but much smaller.
00:31:02.620I think that, you know, I've got personal faith in the Catholic church.
00:31:06.660I think that it is the true church that was built upon the Rock of Peter that Christ promises that the gates of hell will not prevail over.
00:31:12.420The church is, unfortunately, as you say, widely and systematically infiltrated by homosexuals, by communists.
00:31:22.320You know, we have to deal with, you know, of course, the scandalous actions of the past couple of popes, etc.
00:31:29.560But I think that for Catholics and Orthodox, the question of retaking the institutions is it's not really one or the other.
00:31:39.500You sort of have to stick with the institutions no matter what.
00:31:43.280And so the only reason that we do that is because we've got the personal guarantee from our Lord himself that the institutions and their core will never be corrupted.
00:32:11.500And so we've been in, you know, we've had popes in the past who had orgies in the Vatican.
00:32:15.660And so the church has been in worse states than it is now, and there can be no doubt that it's in a bad state now, and we need to be militant, and we need to actively and aggressively fight to reclaim and to cast out, you know, the false shepherds that have usurped, you know, the authority.
00:32:35.140But I think that we really oughtn't to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
00:32:38.920On the question of the SSPX, I used to be very firmly against them.
00:32:43.520I really, you know, loosened up, and I've started to look at them with a lot more charity.
00:32:48.920I think that, you know, when Vatican II occurred, and, you know, if you put yourself in the position of Lefebvre, I understand.
00:32:57.220I understand why he did what he did, and I understand why the SSPX did what they did and why they do what they do.
00:33:02.180I disagree, but I fundamentally have sympathy and empathy for them, and I think that they do a lot of good, and I think that they stand for a lot of virtue and a lot of goodness, even though I disagree with their canonical position.
00:33:17.760Well, it's good to know that there's people like yourself that are joining the church and hoping to have an influence from within.
00:33:26.380I mean, personally, I think that the only way that the church is going to be fixed, and they're even going to get people in their churches again, is by turning back to traditional Christianity.
00:33:36.600Over here in Britain, the churches are all empty.
00:33:38.880They're all empty, and they're closing down.
00:33:41.340They're now saying that they don't have to have a service every Sunday.
00:33:44.460They can just have them at Christmas and Easter.
00:33:46.880And at the same time as this, they're bringing in women priests.
00:33:51.000They're saying that they should be allowing gay marriage ceremonies to take place in the churches, and yet in Africa, you've got Africans who, personally, I don't think Christianity is intended for them anyway, but if they follow the laws of Christianity, that will be a benefit for them.
00:34:07.100But you've got the church, which is growing in Africa, and they're militantly anti-homosexual, and they're promoting one man, one woman, and the sanctity of marriage.
00:34:17.660And they're actually showing themselves as being more moral than us.
00:34:24.920There's a famous video on YouTube, Eat the Pupu.
00:34:27.620It's, you know, the Ugandan Anti-Sodomy League.
00:34:29.840And it's very hilarious, but I remember when I watched it, I was kind of, it was shocking that these, you know, these Africans have a stronger moral integrity than we do.
00:34:40.540Like, I go to a Latin mass parish most of the time, and the difference between when you're at a Novus Ordo parish and when you're at a Latin mass parish is immediately obvious.
00:34:50.520The people at these traditionalist parishes, they're young, like, with big families.
00:35:02.760You know, it's not just a whole bunch of old, like, ladies, you know, sitting in the back and immigrants who hardly know what the priest is saying.
00:35:08.780It's celebrated with reverence, and you can feel the life there.
00:35:12.780And that's the thing, is in every other sector, vocations are declining.
00:35:47.780Well, it's shameful for us to see that, that they are condemning the immorality and they are condemning the liberalism.
00:35:56.420And yet we, the ones who brought Christianity to the world, we are the ones that are now falling to the corruption of it and the sin of it.
00:36:53.700So where will the decent children be that grow up?
00:36:57.880Bishop Williamson, I'm sure you must be aware of him.
00:37:01.080He said that the problem today is it's not that we haven't got Catholic bishops, it's that we've got no more young Catholic boys to become Catholic bishops.
00:37:11.720And what he meant by that is you've got no boys that are actually being taught the right way so they could actually become a true Catholic bishop.
00:37:31.080Those moral principles that everything is built upon, then it will always fall apart and we'll all end up being binging at each other's throats.
00:37:40.680It's like the people that say, well, we need to increase the amount of white people here.
00:37:45.040We need to produce as many children as possible with as many women as possible.
00:38:57.080It's it's, you know, it's the way that we are supposed to be living like the Dharma that the Hindus have, which is the way that they're supposed to be living, which is in accordance with with the cosmic laws of the universe.
00:39:08.480Christianity is in accordance with the cosmic laws of the universe.
00:40:11.060And this is really what the first episode of my podcast was of what was trying to counter this viewpoint.
00:40:17.040I think that the first and most important thing when looking at Christianity is, well, if you think Christianity is cocked, you should open your history book and take a look at the last 1,500 years of European history.
00:40:27.320Because for 1,500 years, European societies operated in a largely fascistic manner with Christianity as the dominant religion and the major guiding principle of all public interactions and private interactions.
00:40:40.100And so, you know, will you really say that the Eastern Roman Empire was cocked?
00:40:46.920Will you really say that, you know, that medieval feudalism was cocked, etc.?
00:40:53.920And so I think that I understand why people, they view Christians cucking and they view Christians doing all of this evil and they conclude that, well, Christianity must be a cock religion.
00:41:04.660But I think that once you get a little bit of historical perspective, it becomes immediately obvious that, no, this was not the case.
00:41:11.300You know, if this was, there would have been no way we could have conducted ourselves for 1,800 years and only recently descended into this degeneracy.
00:41:20.360And so I think that what's going on is not so much Christianity, but this modernism in general, you know, that this Kali Yuga, this dark envelope has come across all of our institutions, not just the universities and the secular, you know, governments, but the churches as well.
00:41:43.420Well, I like to think of it as, you know, our governments have become infiltrated and taken over by Jews, but we don't say, well, we'll throw away the idea of government.
00:41:54.420And that's the thing, and so the question of worshipping Jews is, that's one that I can't, I'm going to address this on my podcast, and we're going to write an article about it for Iron March and Rope Culture and all that, on the difference between the Hebrews of the Old Testament and the rabbinic, Talmudic Jews of today.
00:42:14.960But suffice to say, that the Jews that they talk about in the Old Testament, the Hebrews that they talk about in the Old Testament, are not the same people and are not the same religion as the Jews of today.
00:42:27.600And this is what Jesus Christ is talking about in the book of Revelation, and he's saying that you are being persecuted by these men who call themselves Jews but are not, indeed they are the synagogue of Satan.
00:42:38.360Now, I think that's a very important point, and it's a fact of history as well, that they're not the same people.
00:42:46.340Oh, it's exactly a fact, ethnically but also religiously.
00:42:51.040Judaism itself as a religion came about through the Talmud.
00:42:55.220It was the sayings of the rabbis, that the religion of the Old Testament was the temple, it was the priests, it was the sacrifices, and Judaism, the Talmudism, it should really be called,
00:43:06.000that all came about through the Talmud, which was the complete nullification of everything that was in the Old Testament.
00:43:12.460Exactly. With the codification of the oral law and the midrash and then the Talmud, which is the commentary on the oral law, it's a new religion.
00:43:21.720And that, exactly as you say, with the destruction of Jerusalem by Titus Flavius in 70 AD, all of those institutions passed away,
00:43:28.880and they can't even recreate them because the only people that can serve at the temple in Jerusalem are Levites, Levitical priests.
00:43:36.420And all of the genealogical records which proved who's a Levite and whose lot were destroyed with the second temple.
00:43:42.680And so they can't even rebuild a temple because they don't know who's a Levite.
00:43:46.740Well, it also shows you how important genealogy and ethnicity was to the Hebrews of the Old Testament.
00:43:54.080They kept all these genealogical records, and that's the same as our people.
00:43:58.160You know, I mean, in Britain particularly, the Druids, the Druidical priesthood, they had all the genealogical records.
00:44:04.840You had to prove who your ancestors were 10 generations back before you could become a Druid.
00:44:10.380You had to be a Freeman for 10 generations.
00:44:12.360Then you could study to become a Druid, and that was carried forward through into the church and continued up until the 11th century
00:44:21.000when William the Norman came over and swapped all the priests that were in the church for new ones.
00:44:54.400So just that in itself, I think, tells you that they're not the same people as those of the past.
00:45:01.080I don't want to get too off track here.
00:45:03.920But one of the things I wanted to talk about, and you just mentioned it just then, was the Kali Yuga, which is a Hindu term.
00:45:10.180And I was wondering where your knowledge of the Kali Yuga came from and how you see it fitting in with scripture.
00:45:17.000Yeah, well, my first encounter with the idea of the Kali Yuga came from my studies into the esoteric and the occult, but also reading into Julius Evola, who wrote very prolifically about the idea of the Kali Yuga.
00:45:26.980And so I think that the idea that we're living in the Dark Age or that we're descending towards the final point of degeneration is a universal idea in all cultures.
00:45:39.120We see this reflected in the book of Revelation, as we know that after the end of the thousand-year reign of Christ, which is the spiritual reign which represents the time after he died on the cross, that Satan will be released from his bondage in the pit of hell and will gain greater dominion and authority over the world.
00:45:59.220And so I think that it can be universally agreed upon by anybody with a traditional viewpoint that we're coming to the end of a cycle.
00:46:07.860And so I think that history is fundamentally cyclical, but all cycles have their end, and it's a matter of concentric circles.
00:46:16.340And so I think that we are rapidly approaching the end of several very long cycles of cosmic history.
00:46:23.800That's why, you know, I don't think that we are in the end times right now, but I think that we are approaching them.
00:46:29.880I think that the principle of decay, that is a universal principle.
00:46:36.420So it makes sense to me that we started off with a perfect beginning, or a near-perfect beginning, and then that near-perfectness has degenerated over time to where we are today.
00:46:47.460And if you look back 2,000 years ago, we would have memorized texts like the Bible.
00:46:53.100We would have been able to just repeat that from memory.
00:46:56.660And yet today we can't even remember the contents of our phone books.
00:47:00.120So that tells to me that we are degenerating all this time.
00:47:03.900Back then, physically, we would have been that much stronger, and we would have had that much more resistance against disease than we have now.
00:47:12.160And the cycle part of it, I think, if you look back in the first 10 chapters of Genesis, you have things start out perfectly, you have a golden age, it all degenerates, and then it's all destroyed.
00:47:24.020And then again, things start out perfect again, and the whole of that first 10 chapters then get repeated again in that time from then up until now.
00:47:32.880So you get these cycles within cycles.
00:47:36.360And I think that we're definitely nearing the end times now.
00:47:41.500That's the way that I see it, fitting in with this Kali Yuga.
00:47:44.440And again, as you say, that fits in with the Greek golden age and the age of heroes, gods and kings, and then it all falls apart towards the end.
00:47:53.840I see Christianity fitting in there, because Christianity, or at the end of the Kali Yuga, when things become really degenerate, even the gods have become degenerate.
00:48:03.120So you've only got one true god left, and that's Christianity.
00:48:06.960And I think Christianity particularly came about at the time it did, so that we had something in this day and age that we're living in now, in this last time.
00:48:16.520We had something that was true, where everything else has become degenerate, fallen apart.
00:48:23.540Looking at what's happened in India with the old Aryan gods, you've now got a country that used to be a white empire that's now full of brown people.
00:48:32.420Yes, exactly. I was talking about this, I think, in the last episode of Mysterium Fascist, where it's, you know, people always use the example of Brazil to what will happen with the United States if whites, you know, collapse.
00:48:43.780But really, if you want to look at the first example, it's India.
00:48:46.980India is what happens when Aryans, when white people fail, when white people mongrelize and their systems collapse.
00:48:56.860And you can't go back to their holy books.
00:49:00.820I mean, their holy books have been in the hands of brown people for the last 1,500, 2,000 years.
00:49:07.040So it's going to become corrupted, the fact that the books are in their hands.
00:49:12.040The Christian books, the scriptures, have always been held within European hands.
00:49:17.560And it even says in the Old Testament that the scriptures will be held within the hands of the holy people, which is us.
00:49:24.720Well, sure. And I think even if we look at the Old Testament, like the most famous translation of the Old Testament was the Septuagint into Greek.
00:49:33.220And this is the authoritative canon of the Old Testament that was used by the apostles and was included in our Christian Bible.
00:49:41.540And the great irony of this is one of the things that completely blew my mind and illuminated me to the reality of the JQ was when I realized that the Jews or the Hebrews of the Old Testament went from accepting the entirety of what we know as the Old Testament or the Septuagint as being canonical
00:49:57.540to after the coming of Jesus, completely redacting much of these writings because they pointed to directly towards the coming of the Messiah, who is Jesus Christ.
00:50:07.560They redacted and did away with their own canon and their own tradition to spite Christians.
00:50:13.620And I just, I could not believe it. I could not believe it.
00:50:18.660Right. It's interesting that it was written in Greek as well, I think.
00:50:22.520Well, yeah. I'll tell the story very quickly because it's quite interesting.
00:50:25.160What happened is Ptolemy I, Soter, who was one of Alexander's generals who founded the Ptolemaic dynasty in Egypt, the Greek dynasty in Egypt,
00:50:37.140he was constructed in the Library of Alexandria and he wanted copies of every, you know, book of note throughout the whole world.
00:50:42.820And so he wanted a copy of the Hebrew scriptures, but he wanted it in Greek so that it was easily accessible for anybody who wanted to read it.
00:50:49.640And so what he did is there was a large, you know, diaspora community in Alexandria of Hebrews.
00:50:54.740And so he went to these Hebrews and he said, well, send me 70 of your greatest scholars.
00:51:01.700And so, you know, they send the 70, you know, greatest scholars, the greatest rabbis, the best of tradition.
00:51:09.620That's what Septuagint means, Septuagintia, the 70.
00:51:12.700And so Ptolemy was concerned that they were going to try to conceal the true knowledge or the true wisdom of the Hebrew scripture from him.
00:51:19.500So what he did is he had each one of the Hebrew scribes translate the Old Testament on their own independently in sealed rooms.
00:51:31.080And they weren't allowed to talk to each other until they were done.
00:51:34.160So after each, every one of the translators had completed their work, they came together before Ptolemy and they compared notes.
00:51:40.160And miraculously, they had translated word for word in exactly the same way.
00:51:45.660Every single one of the 70 translations, every single one of the copies was exactly the same from Hebrew into Greek.
00:51:51.740And it was considered to be a miracle.
00:51:53.000And it was considered to be divine providence, which had favored this translation of the Bible and made it authoritative and Ptolemy included it in the library of Alexandria.
00:51:59.620And that's the foundation, the foundational translation and the canon of Old Testament scriptures that Christians use.
00:52:10.200And you can fast forward a few centuries and you've got Herod sitting on the throne, the Edomian, and you've got Judea filled up with Arabs.
00:52:19.640You've got Galilee with Christ and his disciples.