Mysterium Fasces - Aryan Insights – Florian Geyer – Mysterium Fasces – AI 102416

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00:00:12.560 Hello and welcome to Area and Insights.

00:00:31.820 You're listening to me, Sven Longshanks, and today I have a very special guest with me.

00:00:36.920 He's somebody who I've heard people mention his name before, but I wasn't really quite sure who he was

00:00:42.100 until listening to a couple of recent podcasts that he made that caused quite a few ructions, really.

00:00:48.880 One of them on homosexuality, and then after that he started producing his own podcast, Mysterium Fashies,

00:00:55.940 which we're playing here at Radio Area on Mondays, which I highly recommend everybody listen to.

00:01:01.860 It's probably one of the best podcasts that I've heard this year, the content that's in it.

00:01:06.200 It's really, really fascinating stuff.

00:01:08.380 And, of course, the person that I'm talking about is Florian Geyer.

00:01:12.040 Florian, how are you doing today?

00:01:14.160 Doing very well. Thank you for having me on. It's a pleasure.

00:01:17.300 Well, I'm really pleased to get a chance to have a talk with you.

00:01:20.780 As I say, I really appreciate these podcasts that you've been making.

00:01:24.120 The content is fantastic.

00:01:26.020 One of the things that I wondered was sort of how long have you been making podcasts for

00:01:29.640 and what were the names of them so people can look them up after hearing this interview with you?

00:01:34.860 Well, I would hardly call myself a veteran, but my podcasting career started out at TRS Radio

00:01:40.620 with an obscure little podcast called Fash Course World History,

00:01:45.380 which was kind of, as the name implies, a history podcast dedicated to kind of looking at things

00:01:50.520 from a right-wing or fascistic perspective.

00:01:52.380 That project ended due to the usual predictable drama that surrounds all of these forums, et cetera.

00:02:06.200 So I'm not even going to go into that.

00:02:07.580 But, yeah, and then after that, I was hooked on to Nationalist Review Online

00:02:11.680 because Ryan, who was the host of that originally, and still is, had some other Fash Course guys on,

00:02:18.440 and so I was folded on there.

00:02:19.440 And I kept coming back on as a guest, and I guess the listeners of the podcast really enjoyed my commentary,

00:02:26.240 so Ryan eventually brought me on as a co-host.

00:02:28.300 And so from there, my involvement in Nationalist Review Online, or NRO, kind of grew,

00:02:35.000 and I did a lot of work, you know, organizing guests and this kind of thing.

00:02:41.060 And eventually, it got to the point where Ryan was unable to be around regularly to host the podcasts

00:02:48.680 because he was on deployment in the Middle East, and so I had taken over, you know, the main job of hosting.

00:02:55.400 Okay. And then, as some of the listeners no doubt know, there was a little bit of a blow-up at TRS,

00:03:07.280 which ended in me becoming, I was banned, I was made persona non grata,

00:03:11.960 so I'm not allowed to appear on any of their podcasts.

00:03:14.200 So naturally, I couldn't continue with Nationalist Review Online.

00:03:16.880 And Ryan and I, you know, decided to part ways, amiably.

00:03:20.560 I have, you know, no ill will towards him or towards TRS in general.

00:03:26.660 But it opened up the way for me to begin this newest project, Mysterium Fascist, 0.62

00:03:33.860 which I'm very excited about, and we've been receiving a lot of good feedback.

00:03:37.320 So that's my short podcasting career.

00:03:41.000 Well, that must have been where I'd heard you before then, on the Nationalist Review.

00:03:45.700 Have you got any blog, you've been involved in blogging at all,

00:03:49.300 or was it straight into sort of commenting at TRS and then guesting on the podcasts?

00:03:54.820 Well, back in the day when I was going into an anoraxe, I, you know, very briefly tried my hand at a little bit of blogging

00:04:04.100 with not very much success because I didn't have the necessary discipline

00:04:07.740 nor any of the necessary insights to produce anything of quality.

00:04:11.820 So I'm not even going to mention it because I'm embarrassed and wouldn't want people to find my old work

00:04:16.300 and bring it back into the light.

00:04:19.400 But, yeah, no, for me, in terms of content production, it was, no, I was a passive, passive consumer

00:04:26.200 until I started with Fashcourse and then NRO.

00:04:29.960 Well, that's, you know, quite, quite an inspiring story, really.

00:04:32.440 I mean, we've got other people that we've had on Radio Airy and that have heard us and got in touch with us

00:04:39.500 to sort of suggest things that we should be doing.

00:04:42.120 And we said, well, why don't you come on and have a go at presenting that sort of stuff yourself?

00:04:46.860 And it worked out really well.

00:04:48.920 And the guy is now looking at making some videos up, some YouTubes up out of the presentations that he's done,

00:04:55.140 which were on Axis War Heroes, basically.

00:04:58.360 And that all came about from him suggesting something that we would do.

00:05:01.640 And we said, well, why don't you come on and do it yourself?

00:05:04.260 And I'm sure there's more people around as well.

00:05:07.260 If you have any ideas, then do come and talk to us in the chat room and we'll help you out in any way we can.

00:05:14.160 If you have ideas for things that you want to do, podcasts that you want to do,

00:05:17.680 or any ideas of things you'd like Radio Airy and to cover.

00:05:21.400 But let's get back to the interview then.

00:05:23.760 Well, how did you come to be a nationalist then?

00:05:26.660 Were you always sort of right-leaning or is this something that you realized just over the last few years?

00:05:35.240 Well, that's kind of a good question.

00:05:36.480 I guess for me, my political development started when I was about 13 and with Alex Jones and kind of the conspiracy world.

00:05:45.940 When I was a young boy, I wasn't really involved in politics and my family wasn't particularly political.

00:05:52.200 I would call them perhaps moderate conservative or apolitical.

00:05:58.660 But around when I was 13, my parents divorced.

00:06:02.620 And from my father, I was getting this kind of Alex Jones, more kind of conspiracy influence.

00:06:09.180 And I don't know if there was anything really valuable there, except for the fact that it deconditioned me from the mainstream narrative.

00:06:16.460 So when I was in school, I was in middle school and high school, I was never much for what was being presented, what was being offered to me.

00:06:28.120 And so I went through a couple of stages where, oh, well, the anarchist stage.

00:06:33.780 And as I kind of progressed, it got to the point where I was a libertarian, but I wouldn't have known to call myself one.

00:06:40.140 And what happened is the decisive pivot towards the right happened after I discovered 4chan and started going on pole and lurking.

00:06:51.100 And so when I was about 16, I would say, and that, of course, is a very effective tool for radicalization.

00:06:56.620 And so after I discovered pole, you know, I just, you know, I started to embrace right wing politics. 0.97

00:07:04.260 I started to, you know, to think of myself as a libertarian.

00:07:06.780 I started to, you know, move more and more in that direction.

00:07:12.660 And the real progression into fascism, which is what I, you know, what I call myself now, started with near reaction with NRX.

00:07:22.840 I remember when it first started to appear about a year and a half, two years ago, two and a half years ago on pole.

00:07:29.600 And I thought it was very cool.

00:07:32.060 The aesthetic, you know, the LARPing, it appealed to me.

00:07:34.540 I was, you know, a Roman Catholic.

00:07:36.560 So it was, you know, there was something substantiative in reactionary thought and a concreteness and integrity to the rhetoric that I just could, you know,

00:07:49.320 that just wasn't there in libertarianism.

00:07:53.180 And I hadn't seen it presented in an integrated form in fascism yet.

00:07:58.060 So NRX was, I guess, the avenue through which I began my journey towards the alt-right.

00:08:05.420 So for my first year at university, you know, I was big into NRX.

00:08:09.580 You know, I was reading some Moldbug, reading Carlisle, reading a lot of Radish magazine, which is still really good.

00:08:18.760 He doesn't make anything anymore, but what he has put out is fantastic stuff.

00:08:24.880 And this, like, you know, I was reading a lot of reactionary blogs, that kind of stuff.

00:08:31.640 And eventually I sort of stumbled on TRS through one avenue or another.

00:08:38.800 And with TRS, well, I started listening to The Daily Show, which was at about episode maybe seven or eight, so fairly early on in the podcasting.

00:08:51.580 And things sort of started to evolve from there.

00:08:55.040 I was a big fan of The Daily Show.

00:08:56.280 But it was, especially in the early days, just so entertaining, so funny.

00:09:02.300 I think that was really the big appeal.

00:09:04.600 And that kind of, you know, right-wing integrative viewpoint that they had where they were post-libertarian, post-reactionary was appealing.

00:09:14.920 And things sort of progressed as the community developed.

00:09:19.060 The forums came up and I was, you know, active and involved in there.

00:09:22.400 And, you know, they started making more podcasts.

00:09:24.260 So I remember when Fascination came out and I've been listening to that from the beginning and so on and so on.

00:09:30.340 And, yeah, I think I had always, the idea of, you know, making a podcast has always sort of floated around in the back of my mind.

00:09:40.640 Voice is the medium that I'm the most eloquent with and the one I prefer to communicate in.

00:09:45.480 So it seemed like a natural application of my affinities.

00:09:50.380 But that didn't come to any fruition until, as I mentioned before, the Fast Course and that Nationalist Review Online.

00:09:56.900 So really just in kind of the past year or so.

00:10:00.760 Well, it's really good to hear that there's been like a rapid acceleration from libertarianism into nationalism.

00:10:06.840 And it's also really good to hear that the propaganda that we're putting out, the content that we're putting out on the alt-right is having its desired effect.

00:10:15.320 It's bringing people to the truth.

00:10:17.240 It's bringing people to our cause.

00:10:19.840 I mean, myself, it took me a long time to come to nationalism.

00:10:23.080 And I think most people start out as libertarians without realizing it.

00:10:27.620 You know, we don't want to see too much intrusion in our lives.

00:10:32.360 But where the nature of things, before the Internet came along, it was very hard to come across the truth about race and the truth about nationalism and World War II and fascism and all of this.

00:10:43.880 Very, very hard to come across.

00:10:45.440 And now that it is there, it means that young people like yourself can come to the truth a lot quicker than before,

00:10:51.600 which means that you can then become active proponents of the truth, active in the movement itself and helping bring others to the truth, which is, you know, a really good thing.

00:11:03.240 I mean, that's a really inspiring story that you've got there, I think, Florian.

00:11:08.700 Yeah, exactly.

00:11:10.460 Well, I mean, it's funny because I see the progression.

00:11:13.580 It's weird because I've had the same thing happen with my dad, of all people.

00:11:17.600 And my dad, he's got, you know, 45 years on me.

00:11:20.080 But when he started out, when I was 13, you know, he was very much in the same way, Alex Jones, sort of libertarian type.

00:11:26.900 And it's, you know, his own political progression kind of mirrored mine.

00:11:30.880 And so it got to the point where we were both red-pilled on the JQ independently at the same time and kind of both came into, you know, right-wing nationalist politics.

00:11:41.320 That's really good to know.

00:11:42.580 That's excellent that you got support there from your father.

00:11:45.960 You know, that's really good.

00:11:47.020 I mean, a lot of people may be missing that out, you know, and falling out with their parents over this.

00:11:52.380 So that's good to know.

00:11:54.520 Are there any particular nationalists or nationalist ideologies that you think have been most influential on you?

00:12:01.980 Different types of fascism or people involved in it?

00:12:05.260 Speakers, leaders?

00:12:06.720 Codriano or Hitler? 0.75

00:12:08.760 Mussolini?

00:12:09.300 People like that?

00:12:09.940 Yeah, well, I think in terms of the modern emanation of the fascist idea, Codriano is definitely the kind of fascist leader par excellence.

00:12:20.200 His blending of orthodox Christianity, if nothing else, he is always a poignant example to point to when people say, oh, well, you can't be a fascist, you're a Christian.

00:12:30.880 Right, and it's a very excellent example of this, you know, people have been calling the logos fascism implemented.

00:12:38.820 The idea that the political emanation of Christianity is naturally just fascism.

00:12:46.160 For me, though, a lot of my political inspiration comes, it's in the pre-modern world.

00:12:50.240 I still have kind of a reactionary heart.

00:12:56.600 So, you know, I admire the ideal system for me was feudalism.

00:13:03.860 And I think that it composed the healthiest, most organic, natural fascistic system that has ever sort of been seen in Western Europe.

00:13:15.240 And so that, for me, is where I draw a lot of my inspiration and I look back to as kind of the benchmark for all governance is, you know, kind of tribalistic feudalism.

00:13:27.880 And obviously, in the modern world, it's not as applicable as it was in the past.

00:13:32.660 And so we have to move forward and our ideology shifts.

00:13:36.080 But the way I look at it is that fascism is not just an ideology, it's a worldview.

00:13:41.580 It's a set of values that comes from a spiritual superstructure.

00:13:46.100 And so that spiritual superstructure that Codriano had is the same one that our ancestors in Western Europe had and the same one that Francisco Franco had and every other one of the national socialists had.

00:13:55.740 And so for me, what's more important than the contemporaneous emanation and form that the ideology takes as applied to the people, as applied to the time, is the worldview behind that.

00:14:09.800 The spiritual firmament that informs how we act in the political realm.

00:14:18.460 And the feudal system was a very Christian system as well.

00:14:22.360 I mean, that was really sort of the height of the belief in Christianity, I think, in Britain was the Anglo-Saxon feudal system.

00:14:29.600 Well, that brings me to the next question, which was about your Christianity.

00:14:34.300 And have you always been a Christian or is this something that you came to after discovering nationalism?

00:14:41.460 Yeah, well, I was born Catholic.

00:14:43.920 You know, I came from a Catholic family.

00:14:46.040 My mother is French-Canadian, not Quinaigua for posterity.

00:14:51.280 And my father converted when he married her.

00:14:53.360 So I had, you know, but it was very much an Easter and Christmas type of arrangement.

00:14:57.020 I didn't have serious interaction with the faith, despite the fact that I went to, in Canada, there are government-funded Catholic schools.

00:15:04.700 So I went to a Catholic school and I received all of the sacraments, but I never had any serious interaction with the faith.

00:15:09.900 I didn't have any serious catechesis.

00:15:12.640 And so when I was a teenager, you know, I didn't go to church.

00:15:18.440 It was a Christmas and Easter type thing.

00:15:20.000 And eventually it got to the point where I had kind of abandoned Christianity altogether in favor of Germanic neo-paganism.

00:15:27.400 I did go through, you know, a period of about six months where I was LARPing as a pagan.

00:15:34.240 And during this time I was involved, I was reading a lot of kind of esoteric occult type material.

00:15:42.280 I was lurking a lot on 8chan's fringe board, which I don't recommend to anybody.

00:15:46.520 It's a complete cesspool.

00:15:48.700 But those were very formative influences on me.

00:15:53.280 And then what happened is in my last year of high school, I was thinking about what I wanted to do with the rest of my life.

00:16:00.520 And I kept coming back to the idea of the Catholic Church and, you know, of the priesthood.

00:16:10.080 And I realized that, well, probably I'm drawn in this direction for a reason.

00:16:13.620 And if this is the way that I'm interested in, then I probably ought to start going back to church.

00:16:17.780 So that's what I did is I started going back to church when I was about two years ago, when I was 18, 17.

00:16:24.480 And things progressed very rapidly from there.

00:16:28.660 Well, I think it's only natural to react against the modern liberal church.

00:16:36.200 I mean, there's a sort of instant dislike for the way that it's put across to us, because I think it's become totally twisted from what it originally was.

00:16:45.260 I know that you're into the traditional side of things rather than the modern theology that sort of pushed on us, that we've got to love all the other races and allow all of them to come in and remove the crucifixes and raise Islam and the Jews up to higher positions than we're in ourselves.

00:17:04.400 All that sort of thing.

00:17:05.580 You know, you sort of react against it.

00:17:07.900 And personally, myself, I found that when I was reading the Bible, it was completely different to what the what the church was saying.

00:17:14.000 And I find myself, I look at what the Bible says and find inspiration from that.

00:17:18.440 But, you know, I don't actually go to a church.

00:17:20.780 So, you know, you're actually taking part in the practical side of it and and trying to influence it from within, whereas I'm taking inspiration from it and mainly just sort of online stuff.

00:17:32.480 So it's good to hear that you're actually doing that.

00:17:34.940 And it's not just an online brotherhood that you have.

00:17:39.700 It's it's an actual physical one where you're going out there to the church and studying it.

00:17:44.140 And one of the things that I did also wanted to ask you about that is, do you have any particular favorite church fathers or significant Christian figures?

00:17:52.300 And why is it that you admire them?

00:17:54.380 Sure.

00:17:54.640 Sure. In terms of church fathers, ones that I admire the most, St. John Chrysostom, the greatest of the Greek fathers, is probably one of the greatest doctors of the church that have ever been produced.

00:18:07.620 You know, they rank him consistently with Thomas Aquinas and Augustine in terms of his influence.

00:18:12.720 For him, he historically where he was and what he did and his writings were so prolific and just so profound, particularly on the Jews.

00:18:24.720 So that comes to mind immediately.

00:18:26.880 And then there are other figures that I admire a lot for their own personal virtue, not necessarily their theology.

00:18:31.940 And so I look at guys like Athanasius of Alexandria is really a model to be followed in the current times, but also Godfrey de Bouillon, who organized the first crusade.

00:18:44.700 And I've got personal devotions to St. John of Arc and also St. John de Braybeuf, who was one of the Canadian martyrs who was killed by the Iroquois when they were trying to convert the Huron in the 1600s in North America.

00:18:57.600 I think I heard you mentioning that in the last podcast, something to do with that.

00:19:05.080 I thought John Chrysostom would come up.

00:19:08.040 In fact, I was certain John Chrysostom would come up there.

00:19:10.900 Godfrey de Bouillon, I don't really know that much about him.

00:19:13.640 I know that he was involved in the first crusade, and I'm sure there's probably differing reports of him because of that.

00:19:20.300 So it'll probably be an interesting one to check out.

00:19:22.620 I'd recommend that our listeners check out those names that you just brought up there.

00:19:27.600 So did you actually decide to start studying as a priest then?

00:19:32.620 Are you studying to be a priest?

00:19:34.160 Because that's one of the things that I heard people say about you.

00:19:37.600 And if you are studying as a priest, have you discovered other students that think like you?

00:19:42.960 Yeah, well, so I'm a student of theology.

00:19:44.840 I'm not in seminary yet, but that's my goal.

00:19:47.280 I'm in the third year.

00:19:48.040 So once I'm done, I'm going to enter seminary.

00:19:50.660 But yeah, I am studying to be a priest.

00:19:54.080 And in terms of other students, I have met some.

00:19:58.320 I've got a few good friends, one of whom is from Russia, who are very traditionalist or orthodox.

00:20:06.120 You know, they're strong in the faith, and they kind of reject the modernism that's around them.

00:20:10.100 But theology universities are much like the rest of the world, mostly paused.

00:20:16.800 And there's big divisions within them, and the majority opinion is not orthodox.

00:20:22.100 And I can tell you for certain that I've never been so angry as I have been attending theology university.

00:20:28.440 Because in my studies, you just, you run into people who are, who, you know, they preach heresy and blasphemy from the university classroom, right, in a Catholic university. 0.71

00:20:41.260 And so it can be incredibly frustrating at times having to deal with just the rampant pause, the rampant degeneration, the heresy that abounds.

00:20:55.400 And so it's not kind of all, you know, the green grass of orthodoxy and the flowers of the church, so to speak.

00:21:03.700 There are just as many divisions and contradictions as the modern world presents within, you know, theological academia.

00:21:12.360 But there are good, young, orthodox men.

00:21:15.680 And I've met a few.

00:21:17.200 I've met a few.

00:21:18.620 And I think that, you know, a lot of these guys, like, they're in many of the same situations that a lot of the guys on the alt-right or, you know, the fascist right were before.

00:21:33.140 Before we became radicalized, before we kind of politically saw the truth.

00:21:38.220 So I think that there is this kind of core of young men, universally, who are rejecting the modern world, who are embracing traditionalism, who love orthodoxy, and who want to reclaim their culture and their heritage and their faith.

00:21:52.640 Well, that's good to hear.

00:21:55.000 I'm sure that your lecturers or the people that you're listening to, I'm sure that they would have problems actually criticizing you if you're bringing up factual reports of traditionalism in the work that you're doing.

00:22:09.960 You know, you say that it's very heretical what they're preaching.

00:22:13.780 It must get very frustrating.

00:22:15.340 But surely, if you present the counter-argument to them, they haven't really got a leg to stand on, have they?

00:22:21.920 You know, they can't.

00:22:22.640 Well, they, of course not.

00:22:24.180 But they ignore it.

00:22:25.180 Right.

00:22:25.300 That's the thing is, I'll give you a good anecdote.

00:22:27.920 I was in one class.

00:22:30.080 I was a prerequisite course.

00:22:32.240 I had to take it.

00:22:32.920 And this professor was talking about feminist theology.

00:22:35.480 And so this woman was, she was a minister, I think, maybe with the United Church of Canada, which is by far the most positive denomination.

00:22:45.060 And so she said something in class which just, you know, had me seeing red, basically.

00:22:53.520 She said something to the effect of, quote, there is no hierarchy between spirit and matter.

00:22:59.640 And so I raised my hand and I asked her, I said, well, excuse me, professor, how can you say that when all of scripture and the church fathers and tradition seems to hold the exact opposite opinion, that there is a hierarchy between spirit and matter and spirit is superior to matter?

00:23:18.620 And her response was basically, oh, well, the theologians that we're dealing with, they don't hold that view.

00:23:23.440 And so this is just the general attitude that I run into in academia is it's like everywhere else.

00:23:29.720 They just ignore what they don't like because they have no arguments against it.

00:23:34.880 And just the only argument seems to be, oh, well, it's different now because of the current year.

00:23:39.860 Exactly.

00:23:40.100 And it's incredible.

00:23:42.160 It's incredible.

00:23:42.700 I was doing this reading for sexual ethics class and this one kind of Protestant, Quaker, Presbyterian type fellow.

00:23:50.040 And, you know, he's making the argument in 1 Corinthians 6, 9, where Paul is kind of saying, oh, well, neither sodomites nor drunkards nor fornicators shall inherit the kingdom of heaven.

00:24:00.040 Well, he's making an argument that Paul is that he doesn't mean what he says, that this is a cultural attitude, that opposition to sodomy is something that was just, you know, Paul was such a cultural bigot in his time.

00:24:12.320 Right.

00:24:12.600 And it doesn't apply to us universally.

00:24:14.320 And so that's the thing is these people, they're not, you know, they don't believe in the divine inspiration of scripture.

00:24:19.160 I mean, they don't believe in any sort of, you know, literal significance to the text.

00:24:24.800 That's not to say that there is not spiritual, allegorical meaning behind it, but they don't believe that there's any substance to what was written.

00:24:33.840 And so it's just moral relativism, right? 0.94

00:24:36.720 They use scripture as a tool to justify their own shitty behavior. 0.90

00:24:40.940 Yeah, I think that's the best way of putting it there. 0.63

00:24:43.460 Well, so you're obviously supporting traditional Christianity and these are your influences.

00:24:49.040 So what made you pick the name Florian Geyer then?

00:24:54.480 That's a good question.

00:24:55.780 Well, it's very ironic.

00:25:00.100 When I was, the name Florian Geyer comes from the song, actually, Florian Geyer lead, or We Are the Black Band of Florian Geyer, which is a traditional German folk song, I think, from the 19th century.

00:25:13.540 And what had happened is there was an SS division, I think the 34th SS cavalry division was named after Florian Geyer.

00:25:20.340 And so I had picked this as the name for a SOC Gmail account.

00:25:24.300 And when I got into the alt-right, well, you know, I felt that it was important to, you know, make a new alias to operate just within the political sphere.

00:25:33.180 And so I picked the name that was attached to my email account, which is Florian Geyer.

00:25:37.360 I only later learned that the actual Florian Geyer had to have been, you know, a Protestant hedge knight and peasant rebel leader who was famous for burning down, you know, monasteries and nunneries and killing priests and stuff like this.

00:25:51.320 And so you can kind of imagine the high irony and surprise that I felt.

00:25:57.420 But the name has stuck, so.

00:26:00.300 Well, at least it has a link with the SS there, a tenuous link with the SS, so it's not all bad. 0.67

00:26:06.620 But do you think Hitler was a Christian then? 0.59

00:26:10.520 Well, sure. I mean, I think Hitler was a Christian. 0.99

00:26:12.680 If you want to ask, you know, what was the level of his personal devotion?

00:26:15.760 You know, I suspect not much.

00:26:16.840 I don't think Hitler was known for frequenting mass or receiving or going to confession or anything like this.

00:26:22.520 But I think that it's pretty clear.

00:26:24.420 Like, there's a lot of accusations.

00:26:26.700 People say that, well, National Socialism wasn't a Christian movement.

00:26:30.200 It was pagan. 0.87

00:26:31.440 It was, you know, it was a cult.

00:26:33.280 It was whatever.

00:26:34.760 And I certainly have my criticisms of Hitler in regards to how he dealt with the Catholic Church.

00:26:39.460 But I think that National Socialism was a manifestation of the German spirit.

00:26:45.100 And the German spirit was Christian.

00:26:47.620 Maybe not as orthodox Christian as we would have liked.

00:26:50.700 Maybe, like every other regime, they tried to use Christianity as a tool, a political tool, or a tool of the ideology.

00:26:57.900 But that's not really any deviation from the norm.

00:27:00.460 Bismarck was much more egregious to this extent.

00:27:04.420 And so I think that, you know, was Hitler a Christian? 0.65

00:27:07.140 Yeah, he was a Christian.

00:27:08.220 And was he, you know, a serious, hardcore, devoted Christian?

00:27:11.940 Well, probably not.

00:27:14.160 Yeah, the way I see it, I think he was quite obviously a Christian from the, or at least knew the Bible well, just from a lot of the references that he uses, the words that he used, the terminology that he uses, and the allegories that he uses in Mein Kampf.

00:27:29.300 I think they show quite a familiarity with the Bible and with the Christian faith.

00:27:34.700 And I also see National Socialism itself, the principles that it's based upon, as being Christian principles. 0.50

00:27:41.960 I agree.

00:27:42.760 Christian principles are, you know, I mean, Christianity is the true faith because those principles are eternal principles.

00:27:50.060 And he was the first guy to put those principles to work in a state and try to actually implement them with the state.

00:27:58.900 This, you know, this putting the nation's needs above the needs of the individual is, you know, that's love your neighbor as you love yourself.

00:28:06.800 And they're getting rid of usury, you know, all these key points, no tolerance for homosexuality. 1.00

00:28:14.300 All of these things are key points of traditional Christianity that have just been sort of thrown away in the last century, really, which has caused so much damage, the church doing that, when the church really should have been standing up for these things.

00:28:29.160 So, you know, I definitely think Hitler was a Christian by actions, even if he didn't profess it. 0.88

00:28:36.780 Just, you know, and it is more important what you do than what you say, I think, as well.

00:28:42.280 So I think he's...

00:28:42.700 Yeah, I agree.

00:28:43.700 And I think, I mean, I use this quote in a recent article that I wrote for the Iron Merge Religion Project, but it's quite famous.

00:28:50.140 And this is from Hitler, quote,

00:28:52.560 And so, yeah, I think that this, you know, is this a wholehearted affirmation of all of the teachings of the Catholic Church?

00:29:18.800 Of course not.

00:29:19.380 But I think that this is reflective of how Hitler legitimately thought about Christianity and how he approached Christianity.

00:29:25.980 And so I think that, you know, to say that Hitler wasn't a Christian would be untrue.

00:29:30.560 Was he perfect?

00:29:31.540 No, none of us are.

00:29:33.200 But I think that it's, you know, it's slanderous and libelous, basically, to say otherwise.

00:29:39.200 I think he knew that the faith was essential to keeping the nation together.

00:29:44.020 I mean, Putin has said the same, that the Christian faith is essential for keeping the Russian nation together.

00:29:49.800 And if you look at the different, all the different fascist ideologies, none of them were pagan or anything other than Christian.

00:29:57.820 They were all Christian.

00:29:59.200 All of them.

00:29:59.980 And I think that, you know, you're quite correct.

00:30:05.500 And this is one of the things that fascism brings to the table that white nationalism just lacks, is that race alone is not enough. 1.00

00:30:12.180 I mean, if we've got an ethically homogenous nation full of 100% Bavarian phenotype white people, but they're all degenerate and fuck dogs, then we've got nothing to be proud of. 1.00

00:30:22.380 You know, we've just got a very pale Sodom. 0.99

00:30:25.820 And so I think that the nation is built upon many layers.

00:30:30.140 Race is the foundation. 0.98

00:30:31.160 But just like with a house, you have walls and a roof.

00:30:34.980 You don't leave it at the foundation.

00:30:36.300 You need other things to build upon the base of race.

00:30:40.460 That's a good analogy.

00:30:41.420 I think that's a very good way of looking at it.

00:30:44.500 Do you think we'll be able to retake the establishment church then?

00:30:47.580 Or do you see the future of traditionalist Christianity being carried forward by separate organizations like the SSPX?

00:30:54.900 Well, I think that, to quote Pope Benedict, I think that in the future the church will be much more faithful but much smaller.

00:31:02.620 I think that, you know, I've got personal faith in the Catholic church.

00:31:06.660 I think that it is the true church that was built upon the Rock of Peter that Christ promises that the gates of hell will not prevail over. 0.97

00:31:12.420 The church is, unfortunately, as you say, widely and systematically infiltrated by homosexuals, by communists. 0.87

00:31:22.320 You know, we have to deal with, you know, of course, the scandalous actions of the past couple of popes, etc.

00:31:29.560 But I think that for Catholics and Orthodox, the question of retaking the institutions is it's not really one or the other.

00:31:39.500 You sort of have to stick with the institutions no matter what.

00:31:43.280 And so the only reason that we do that is because we've got the personal guarantee from our Lord himself that the institutions and their core will never be corrupted.

00:31:51.680 Even if the men who occupy them are.

00:31:55.300 And so the way I look at it is that the church has been in worse straits in the past.

00:31:59.960 St. Jerome wrote that in the 3rd and 4th century that 85% of the bishops were Arian.

00:32:06.020 They didn't, and that's with an I, not a Y. 0.98

00:32:07.920 They didn't believe Jesus Christ was God.

00:32:09.520 They were heretics.

00:32:11.500 And so we've been in, you know, we've had popes in the past who had orgies in the Vatican.

00:32:15.660 And so the church has been in worse states than it is now, and there can be no doubt that it's in a bad state now, and we need to be militant, and we need to actively and aggressively fight to reclaim and to cast out, you know, the false shepherds that have usurped, you know, the authority.

00:32:35.140 But I think that we really oughtn't to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

00:32:38.920 On the question of the SSPX, I used to be very firmly against them.

00:32:43.520 I really, you know, loosened up, and I've started to look at them with a lot more charity.

00:32:48.920 I think that, you know, when Vatican II occurred, and, you know, if you put yourself in the position of Lefebvre, I understand.

00:32:57.220 I understand why he did what he did, and I understand why the SSPX did what they did and why they do what they do.

00:33:02.180 I disagree, but I fundamentally have sympathy and empathy for them, and I think that they do a lot of good, and I think that they stand for a lot of virtue and a lot of goodness, even though I disagree with their canonical position.

00:33:17.760 Well, it's good to know that there's people like yourself that are joining the church and hoping to have an influence from within.

00:33:26.380 I mean, personally, I think that the only way that the church is going to be fixed, and they're even going to get people in their churches again, is by turning back to traditional Christianity. 0.90

00:33:36.600 Over here in Britain, the churches are all empty.

00:33:38.880 They're all empty, and they're closing down.

00:33:41.340 They're now saying that they don't have to have a service every Sunday.

00:33:44.460 They can just have them at Christmas and Easter.

00:33:46.880 And at the same time as this, they're bringing in women priests.

00:33:51.000 They're saying that they should be allowing gay marriage ceremonies to take place in the churches, and yet in Africa, you've got Africans who, personally, I don't think Christianity is intended for them anyway, but if they follow the laws of Christianity, that will be a benefit for them. 0.97

00:34:07.100 But you've got the church, which is growing in Africa, and they're militantly anti-homosexual, and they're promoting one man, one woman, and the sanctity of marriage.

00:34:17.660 And they're actually showing themselves as being more moral than us. 0.98

00:34:21.280 You know, these gay-grown savages. 1.00

00:34:23.440 This is such a critical point. 0.99

00:34:24.920 There's a famous video on YouTube, Eat the Pupu.

00:34:27.620 It's, you know, the Ugandan Anti-Sodomy League.

00:34:29.840 And it's very hilarious, but I remember when I watched it, I was kind of, it was shocking that these, you know, these Africans have a stronger moral integrity than we do. 1.00

00:34:39.720 But yeah, I agree.

00:34:40.540 Like, I go to a Latin mass parish most of the time, and the difference between when you're at a Novus Ordo parish and when you're at a Latin mass parish is immediately obvious.

00:34:50.520 The people at these traditionalist parishes, they're young, like, with big families.

00:34:55.760 You know, they look good.

00:34:57.440 Their quality is immediately apparent.

00:34:59.460 The women are veiled. 0.80

00:35:01.160 They're healthy.

00:35:02.760 You know, it's not just a whole bunch of old, like, ladies, you know, sitting in the back and immigrants who hardly know what the priest is saying. 1.00

00:35:08.780 It's celebrated with reverence, and you can feel the life there.

00:35:12.780 And that's the thing, is in every other sector, vocations are declining.

00:35:19.160 Parish attendance is declining.

00:35:21.220 Churches are closing.

00:35:22.320 But in the traditionalist, the Latin mass sector, everything is skyrocketing.

00:35:26.780 More and more parishes are opening.

00:35:28.300 More and more vocations are coming in.

00:35:30.760 More and more, you know, these big families are attaching themselves to these places.

00:35:35.180 This is where the life is.

00:35:36.120 It's immediately obvious if you look in and see.

00:35:38.520 And I think it's the same thing in Africa. 1.00

00:35:40.820 It's, well, you know, Africans may be stupid, but they go with a strong horse. 1.00

00:35:45.700 They know what works. 1.00

00:35:47.780 Well, it's shameful for us to see that, that they are condemning the immorality and they are condemning the liberalism.

00:35:56.420 And yet we, the ones who brought Christianity to the world, we are the ones that are now falling to the corruption of it and the sin of it. 0.98

00:36:04.480 Well, exactly.

00:36:05.340 And I mean, you can make the comparison to the Old Testament Israelites.

00:36:08.880 That, you know, these people that originally were blessed and received the covenant eventually crucified our Lord and Savior.

00:36:15.940 And so that's the thing is, do we want to become like the Jews? 0.99

00:36:19.000 Are we going to crucify our Lord again?

00:36:21.720 And that's where I think, you know, common filth of, you know, there's all, maybe we'll have all these opinions. 0.98

00:36:27.600 But I think common filth in one of his absolutely fucking true and correct critiques is that a white Sodom is worth nothing. 0.99

00:36:35.200 Okay, completely. 0.99

00:36:38.580 You know, it's no good if we're just going to remain degenerate, save white people and then remain degenerate. 0.92

00:36:44.580 That's like saying, you know, we'll save white people, but we'll keep abortion. 0.99

00:36:49.640 We'll keep homosexuality. 1.00

00:36:51.400 We'll keep single mothers. 1.00

00:36:53.700 So where will the decent children be that grow up?

00:36:57.880 Bishop Williamson, I'm sure you must be aware of him.

00:37:01.080 He said that the problem today is it's not that we haven't got Catholic bishops, it's that we've got no more young Catholic boys to become Catholic bishops.

00:37:11.720 And what he meant by that is you've got no boys that are actually being taught the right way so they could actually become a true Catholic bishop.

00:37:21.200 There are none of them left anymore.

00:37:22.380 They're all corrupted by liberalism and what they're taught at school.

00:37:26.440 So if you don't have those.

00:37:31.080 Those moral principles that everything is built upon, then it will always fall apart and we'll all end up being binging at each other's throats.

00:37:40.680 It's like the people that say, well, we need to increase the amount of white people here.

00:37:45.040 We need to produce as many children as possible with as many women as possible. 1.00

00:37:50.020 Now, what's the point in that?

00:37:50.860 You're just going to produce degenerate children. 0.90

00:37:52.580 They have to be brought up.

00:37:53.500 And, you know, the high irony of this is I was reading the book of Ecclesiastes or perhaps the wisdom of Solomon.

00:37:58.820 And they specifically argue against this point.

00:38:03.200 You know, they say, why do you plant many trees with shallow roots?

00:38:06.940 Do you not know when the winds come they will be uprooted and tossed away?

00:38:10.320 But only those trees with deep roots will produce good fruit.

00:38:13.380 And he literally is addressing this question.

00:38:16.820 That's I'm blown away every time I read the wisdom literature.

00:38:19.860 It's like the same thing when I read Mein Kampf.

00:38:21.940 It's like, are they are they talking about our current situation?

00:38:24.660 Because it's so, so gestalt in how it speaks to our current time.

00:38:33.520 That's the thing is there's nothing new under the sun.

00:38:36.120 It's quite amazing that, isn't it?

00:38:37.480 You know, when you look through that, the way that you can just see, well, that's exactly what's happening today.

00:38:42.220 Or that is exactly applicable to a situation that you've just seen.

00:38:46.440 You know, it really speaks to us.

00:38:48.340 I think that's why Europeans, you know, we took on Christianity because it's essentially European.

00:38:54.060 You know, it's essentially reflects our soul.

00:38:57.080 It's it's, you know, it's the way that we are supposed to be living like the Dharma that the Hindus have, which is the way that they're supposed to be living, which is in accordance with with the cosmic laws of the universe.

00:39:08.480 Christianity is in accordance with the cosmic laws of the universe.

00:39:12.180 That's what the Logos is, isn't it?

00:39:14.220 That's what Christ was, you know, the Logos incarnate. 0.97

00:39:18.040 So the rejection of of the Logos, what the Jews did, is the rejection of the cosmic order of the universe. 1.00

00:39:24.060 So they become the agents of chaos.

00:39:26.060 And that's what we fight against.

00:39:28.720 You are the sons of Satan because you do his work.

00:39:32.960 Yeah. 0.91

00:39:33.580 You know, I believe that's quite literally as well.

00:39:37.160 That can be taken quite literally as well.

00:39:39.300 No, it's 100 percent correct.

00:39:41.760 And that just not only extends to Jews, but it extends to everybody else.

00:39:45.580 If you do the work of Satan, you are his son.

00:39:47.920 It's very simple.

00:39:48.500 Well, what would you say to people who claim that Christianity is harmful to our people then?

00:39:53.960 Because the majority of Christianity in the church is now welcoming the enemy and in some cases even worship the enemy. 0.96

00:40:00.440 And this is what gets me. 0.93

00:40:01.600 They worship Jews. 0.99

00:40:02.980 They worship, you know, the Antichrist, the people that killed our Lord. 1.00

00:40:07.040 They worship them.

00:40:08.880 Yeah.

00:40:09.220 No, and this is a good question.

00:40:10.280 I get this a lot.

00:40:11.060 And this is really what the first episode of my podcast was of what was trying to counter this viewpoint.

00:40:17.040 I think that the first and most important thing when looking at Christianity is, well, if you think Christianity is cocked, you should open your history book and take a look at the last 1,500 years of European history.

00:40:27.320 Because for 1,500 years, European societies operated in a largely fascistic manner with Christianity as the dominant religion and the major guiding principle of all public interactions and private interactions.

00:40:40.100 And so, you know, will you really say that the Eastern Roman Empire was cocked?

00:40:46.920 Will you really say that, you know, that medieval feudalism was cocked, etc.?

00:40:53.920 And so I think that I understand why people, they view Christians cucking and they view Christians doing all of this evil and they conclude that, well, Christianity must be a cock religion.

00:41:04.660 But I think that once you get a little bit of historical perspective, it becomes immediately obvious that, no, this was not the case. 0.98

00:41:11.300 You know, if this was, there would have been no way we could have conducted ourselves for 1,800 years and only recently descended into this degeneracy.

00:41:20.360 And so I think that what's going on is not so much Christianity, but this modernism in general, you know, that this Kali Yuga, this dark envelope has come across all of our institutions, not just the universities and the secular, you know, governments, but the churches as well.

00:41:43.420 Well, I like to think of it as, you know, our governments have become infiltrated and taken over by Jews, but we don't say, well, we'll throw away the idea of government. 0.99

00:41:54.200 Yeah, exactly.

00:41:54.420 And that's the thing, and so the question of worshipping Jews is, that's one that I can't, I'm going to address this on my podcast, and we're going to write an article about it for Iron March and Rope Culture and all that, on the difference between the Hebrews of the Old Testament and the rabbinic, Talmudic Jews of today.

00:42:14.960 But suffice to say, that the Jews that they talk about in the Old Testament, the Hebrews that they talk about in the Old Testament, are not the same people and are not the same religion as the Jews of today.

00:42:27.600 And this is what Jesus Christ is talking about in the book of Revelation, and he's saying that you are being persecuted by these men who call themselves Jews but are not, indeed they are the synagogue of Satan.

00:42:38.360 Now, I think that's a very important point, and it's a fact of history as well, that they're not the same people.

00:42:46.340 Oh, it's exactly a fact, ethnically but also religiously.

00:42:51.040 Judaism itself as a religion came about through the Talmud.

00:42:55.220 It was the sayings of the rabbis, that the religion of the Old Testament was the temple, it was the priests, it was the sacrifices, and Judaism, the Talmudism, it should really be called,

00:43:06.000 that all came about through the Talmud, which was the complete nullification of everything that was in the Old Testament. 0.54

00:43:12.460 Exactly. With the codification of the oral law and the midrash and then the Talmud, which is the commentary on the oral law, it's a new religion. 0.92

00:43:21.720 And that, exactly as you say, with the destruction of Jerusalem by Titus Flavius in 70 AD, all of those institutions passed away,

00:43:28.880 and they can't even recreate them because the only people that can serve at the temple in Jerusalem are Levites, Levitical priests.

00:43:36.420 And all of the genealogical records which proved who's a Levite and whose lot were destroyed with the second temple.

00:43:42.680 And so they can't even rebuild a temple because they don't know who's a Levite.

00:43:46.740 Well, it also shows you how important genealogy and ethnicity was to the Hebrews of the Old Testament.

00:43:54.080 They kept all these genealogical records, and that's the same as our people.

00:43:58.160 You know, I mean, in Britain particularly, the Druids, the Druidical priesthood, they had all the genealogical records.

00:44:04.840 You had to prove who your ancestors were 10 generations back before you could become a Druid.

00:44:10.380 You had to be a Freeman for 10 generations. 0.91

00:44:12.360 Then you could study to become a Druid, and that was carried forward through into the church and continued up until the 11th century

00:44:21.000 when William the Norman came over and swapped all the priests that were in the church for new ones.

00:44:27.260 He brought new French ones over.

00:44:28.800 I think there was only two English ones that were actually left.

00:44:31.640 The Norman Yeo, yes.

00:44:33.080 Yeah, a big change.

00:44:34.720 But that shows you that ethnicity was so important going all the way back, and it's so important in the Old Testament as well. 0.98

00:44:41.380 They throw out all the strange women and the strange bastard children. 1.00

00:44:45.580 They're kicked out. 1.00

00:44:46.660 They're nothing to do with it.

00:44:47.980 And yet today you've got Jews that are from all different races.

00:44:52.500 They're all mixed up and Mongolized. 1.00

00:44:54.400 So just that in itself, I think, tells you that they're not the same people as those of the past.

00:45:01.080 I don't want to get too off track here.

00:45:03.920 But one of the things I wanted to talk about, and you just mentioned it just then, was the Kali Yuga, which is a Hindu term.

00:45:10.180 And I was wondering where your knowledge of the Kali Yuga came from and how you see it fitting in with scripture.

00:45:17.000 Yeah, well, my first encounter with the idea of the Kali Yuga came from my studies into the esoteric and the occult, but also reading into Julius Evola, who wrote very prolifically about the idea of the Kali Yuga.

00:45:26.980 And so I think that the idea that we're living in the Dark Age or that we're descending towards the final point of degeneration is a universal idea in all cultures.

00:45:39.120 We see this reflected in the book of Revelation, as we know that after the end of the thousand-year reign of Christ, which is the spiritual reign which represents the time after he died on the cross, that Satan will be released from his bondage in the pit of hell and will gain greater dominion and authority over the world.

00:45:59.220 And so I think that it can be universally agreed upon by anybody with a traditional viewpoint that we're coming to the end of a cycle.

00:46:07.860 And so I think that history is fundamentally cyclical, but all cycles have their end, and it's a matter of concentric circles.

00:46:16.340 And so I think that we are rapidly approaching the end of several very long cycles of cosmic history.

00:46:23.800 That's why, you know, I don't think that we are in the end times right now, but I think that we are approaching them.

00:46:29.880 I think that the principle of decay, that is a universal principle.

00:46:33.980 Everything decays.

00:46:35.540 Entropy, isn't it?

00:46:36.420 So it makes sense to me that we started off with a perfect beginning, or a near-perfect beginning, and then that near-perfectness has degenerated over time to where we are today.

00:46:47.460 And if you look back 2,000 years ago, we would have memorized texts like the Bible.

00:46:53.100 We would have been able to just repeat that from memory.

00:46:56.660 And yet today we can't even remember the contents of our phone books.

00:47:00.120 So that tells to me that we are degenerating all this time.

00:47:03.900 Back then, physically, we would have been that much stronger, and we would have had that much more resistance against disease than we have now.

00:47:12.160 And the cycle part of it, I think, if you look back in the first 10 chapters of Genesis, you have things start out perfectly, you have a golden age, it all degenerates, and then it's all destroyed.

00:47:24.020 And then again, things start out perfect again, and the whole of that first 10 chapters then get repeated again in that time from then up until now.

00:47:32.880 So you get these cycles within cycles.

00:47:36.360 And I think that we're definitely nearing the end times now.

00:47:41.500 That's the way that I see it, fitting in with this Kali Yuga. 0.94

00:47:44.440 And again, as you say, that fits in with the Greek golden age and the age of heroes, gods and kings, and then it all falls apart towards the end.

00:47:53.840 I see Christianity fitting in there, because Christianity, or at the end of the Kali Yuga, when things become really degenerate, even the gods have become degenerate. 0.94

00:48:03.120 So you've only got one true god left, and that's Christianity. 0.99

00:48:06.960 And I think Christianity particularly came about at the time it did, so that we had something in this day and age that we're living in now, in this last time. 0.88

00:48:16.520 We had something that was true, where everything else has become degenerate, fallen apart. 0.83

00:48:23.540 Looking at what's happened in India with the old Aryan gods, you've now got a country that used to be a white empire that's now full of brown people. 1.00

00:48:32.420 Yes, exactly. I was talking about this, I think, in the last episode of Mysterium Fascist, where it's, you know, people always use the example of Brazil to what will happen with the United States if whites, you know, collapse. 0.66

00:48:43.780 But really, if you want to look at the first example, it's India.

00:48:46.980 India is what happens when Aryans, when white people fail, when white people mongrelize and their systems collapse. 0.84

00:48:55.100 Yeah, you get that. 0.97

00:48:56.860 And you can't go back to their holy books.

00:49:00.820 I mean, their holy books have been in the hands of brown people for the last 1,500, 2,000 years. 0.75

00:49:07.040 So it's going to become corrupted, the fact that the books are in their hands.

00:49:12.040 The Christian books, the scriptures, have always been held within European hands.

00:49:17.560 And it even says in the Old Testament that the scriptures will be held within the hands of the holy people, which is us.

00:49:24.720 Well, sure. And I think even if we look at the Old Testament, like the most famous translation of the Old Testament was the Septuagint into Greek.

00:49:33.220 And this is the authoritative canon of the Old Testament that was used by the apostles and was included in our Christian Bible.

00:49:41.540 And the great irony of this is one of the things that completely blew my mind and illuminated me to the reality of the JQ was when I realized that the Jews or the Hebrews of the Old Testament went from accepting the entirety of what we know as the Old Testament or the Septuagint as being canonical 0.70

00:49:57.540 to after the coming of Jesus, completely redacting much of these writings because they pointed to directly towards the coming of the Messiah, who is Jesus Christ.

00:50:07.560 They redacted and did away with their own canon and their own tradition to spite Christians.

00:50:13.620 And I just, I could not believe it. I could not believe it.

00:50:18.660 Right. It's interesting that it was written in Greek as well, I think.

00:50:22.520 Well, yeah. I'll tell the story very quickly because it's quite interesting.

00:50:25.160 What happened is Ptolemy I, Soter, who was one of Alexander's generals who founded the Ptolemaic dynasty in Egypt, the Greek dynasty in Egypt,

00:50:37.140 he was constructed in the Library of Alexandria and he wanted copies of every, you know, book of note throughout the whole world.

00:50:42.820 And so he wanted a copy of the Hebrew scriptures, but he wanted it in Greek so that it was easily accessible for anybody who wanted to read it.

00:50:49.640 And so what he did is there was a large, you know, diaspora community in Alexandria of Hebrews.

00:50:54.740 And so he went to these Hebrews and he said, well, send me 70 of your greatest scholars.

00:51:01.700 And so, you know, they send the 70, you know, greatest scholars, the greatest rabbis, the best of tradition.

00:51:09.620 That's what Septuagint means, Septuagintia, the 70.

00:51:12.700 And so Ptolemy was concerned that they were going to try to conceal the true knowledge or the true wisdom of the Hebrew scripture from him.

00:51:19.500 So what he did is he had each one of the Hebrew scribes translate the Old Testament on their own independently in sealed rooms. 0.67

00:51:31.080 And they weren't allowed to talk to each other until they were done.

00:51:34.160 So after each, every one of the translators had completed their work, they came together before Ptolemy and they compared notes.

00:51:40.160 And miraculously, they had translated word for word in exactly the same way.

00:51:45.660 Every single one of the 70 translations, every single one of the copies was exactly the same from Hebrew into Greek.

00:51:51.740 And it was considered to be a miracle.

00:51:53.000 And it was considered to be divine providence, which had favored this translation of the Bible and made it authoritative and Ptolemy included it in the library of Alexandria.

00:51:59.620 And that's the foundation, the foundational translation and the canon of Old Testament scriptures that Christians use.

00:52:06.620 This is what Jesus read.

00:52:07.880 This is what the apostles used.

00:52:10.200 And you can fast forward a few centuries and you've got Herod sitting on the throne, the Edomian, and you've got Judea filled up with Arabs. 0.99

00:52:19.640 You've got Galilee with Christ and his disciples.

00:52:23.640 They were all from Galilee.

00:52:24.780 They weren't actually from Judea. 0.88

00:52:26.640 And you've got this corrupt priesthood, corrupted people, this wicked King Herod, who the Jews called Herod the Great. 0.98

00:52:35.560 And they crucify Christ and then they come up with the Talmud. 0.86

00:52:40.100 So what was the church's original teaching on the Jews then?

00:52:44.440 Because I know they had really strict laws against the Jews.

00:52:47.700 And we get accused today of Christianity is all accepting of the Jew and it's a Jewish religion.

00:52:53.240 And yet the church itself had really strict laws against these Jews and it had teachings on the Jews, which the pagan religions never had. 0.92

00:53:01.720 You know, the pagans never warned us about the Jew at all.

00:53:04.640 They got in there with the Jew and made use of the Jews' usury. 1.00

00:53:08.500 But as soon as the church came in and took power in Rome, when Constantine took power in Rome,

00:53:12.900 they prevented the Jews from being able to operate and they brought in laws, even preventing marriage between Jews and Christians.

00:53:20.820 So, you know, you must know all about that, some of these laws.

00:53:24.780 Sure.

00:53:25.240 Well, the church's traditional teaching on the Jews is that modern Jews are descended from the Pharisees.

00:53:30.900 Pharisees, right, that after the destruction of the second temple in Jerusalem, that the Pharisees, some of the survivors,

00:53:39.080 basically got together and created the first modern synagogue, which is the debating school.

00:53:43.900 They had existed before then, but this was kind of a new model.

00:53:46.740 And the teaching is that the old covenant that was established between God and Abraham was superseded by the new covenant,

00:53:55.940 which was established in Christ's blood on the cross at Calvary.

00:54:00.840 And this is why, I think it's the Gospel of Luke or perhaps John, when Christ dies,

00:54:06.160 the temple veil that separates the Holy of Holies from the rest of the temple was torn in two.

00:54:11.080 And when he's before the Sanhedrin, the high priest rips his clothing, his vestments,

00:54:17.680 to signal the aberration, the abergation of the old covenant priesthood and that it's been superseded in Jesus Christ.

00:54:26.100 So the traditional Christian view on it is that the true Israel, that is to say the chosen people of God,

00:54:33.160 those who fight with God, that is to say God fights on their side, is the church of the Christian believers.

00:54:38.120 And that the people who cling to the Old Testament are basically the descendants of the Pharisees 0.96

00:54:43.820 and are part of the synagogue of Satan.

00:54:46.920 These are the descendants of those who crucified Jesus Christ.

00:54:50.620 And this is what John Chrysostom and innumerable other church fathers and writers talked about

00:54:58.880 and believed that these Jews, they are the Pharisees that Jesus warned us about in the Gospels. 0.85

00:55:04.380 Now, the beginning of the teaching on this, the change of the teaching on this,

00:55:08.440 comes really from Vatican II with the publishing of the document Nostra Aetate in our time.

00:55:15.020 And so Nostra Aetate, it said that basically Jews don't bear collective guilt for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

00:55:24.080 It talked about them as being older brothers in faith, etc.

00:55:29.180 Now, I don't really have time to get into the nitty-gritty, you know, canonical validity of this.

00:55:37.560 But suffice to say, Vatican II was founded on bad philosophy.

00:55:40.800 And that Vatican II did not define any dogma, it did not anathematize any dogma,

00:55:46.400 which is what the purpose of an ecumenical council is.

00:55:49.000 And every single other council in church history had done this, except for Vatican II.

00:55:52.700 So all Vatican II was, was like a statement of position.

00:55:57.440 It was a language event.

00:55:59.620 And so this is why I actually have sympathy for the SSPXs,

00:56:02.340 because these declarations, they fly very clearly in the face of church tradition.

00:56:07.400 They are incompatible with church tradition.

00:56:10.540 And so they're not proclamations of dogma or morals,

00:56:14.220 so they haven't violated the core essence of what the church is and its self-dific power.

00:56:18.720 But philosophically, they are at odds with church tradition.

00:56:21.360 And so I think that any new proclamation from the magisterium or from the church

00:56:26.720 needs to be considered in the light of tradition.

00:56:29.080 This is just common sense.

00:56:31.660 And so I think that it's, this is a, it's a complicated situation,

00:56:34.640 and I don't have time to kind of lay it out here.

00:56:36.900 But suffice to say, right, there are conflicts.

00:56:41.700 So that was the period when it really changed, or at least for the Catholic church,

00:56:45.960 the change in the view of the church.

00:56:46.980 Well, yeah, the beginning of this cultural shift away from viewing Jews as kind of the synagogue of Satan

00:56:54.060 started with, around the time of the Protestant Reformation, of course,

00:57:01.760 Martin Luther was very famously anti-Semitic.

00:57:03.840 But if we look at Jan Hus, who was an early proto-reformer, we could call him,

00:57:08.340 he considered himself to be, you know, like a new biblical patriarch,

00:57:11.780 and he was big in bed with the Jews of Prague.

00:57:14.060 And we see with kind of the, the hard Reformation and the Anabaptists, 1.00

00:57:18.220 a movement away from this traditional viewpoint.

00:57:21.860 And this really started to reach its apotheosis with the Schofield Bible

00:57:25.640 and all of those heresies of the American South.

00:57:30.480 And some, some places in England, where they started to view, you know, the Jews as,

00:57:34.820 oh, well, they're the chosen people.

00:57:36.480 And, you know, Jimbo at the country store is literally Jesus's cousin,

00:57:40.040 which is, of course, completely heretical.

00:57:41.540 It's completely heretical.

00:57:42.920 But it's, you know, this is what happens when anybody can interpret sacred scripture,

00:57:49.540 is you can project whatever meaning you want onto it.

00:57:52.400 So just, do you see the Jews as being a biological problem then, or as a conspiratorial problem?

00:58:00.040 The Jews, the Jews operate as, you know, it's not one or the other.

00:58:04.360 The Jews operate as kind of a theological and a religious group surrounding their religion of Talmudism,

00:58:09.660 but they also quite obviously, you know, organize and operate as a racial category as well.

00:58:14.660 They think of themselves tribally, and they relate to one another on the basis of blood.

00:58:19.320 That's why, you know, secular Jews cooperate with religious Jews,

00:58:23.820 because the bond between them is deeper than just their religious affiliation.

00:58:27.800 It's about the tribe.

00:58:29.940 It's about the blood.

00:58:31.140 But it would be silly to say that, oh, well, the race is the only thing that matters,

00:58:35.240 and their religion has absolutely nothing to do with why they act the way,

00:58:39.400 why they act in the way that they do.

00:58:42.200 It's just not the case.

00:58:43.940 Their attitudes and their, you know, anti-Logos actions come from their religious beliefs

00:58:50.120 and their religious undergirding.

00:58:51.120 The way they organize their tribe in the modern times comes from this rabbinic Talmudism.

00:58:56.300 And so I don't view them as, I view them as kind of inseparable concepts.

00:58:59.800 They're intimately intertwined with each other. 0.86

00:59:01.780 So I think that the Jews are a problem because they're both a foreign racial group in our countries 1.00

00:59:06.340 that operate for their own aggrandizement and the detriment of ourselves, 0.97

00:59:09.960 and I see them also theologically as an issue for the reasons that we've already outlined.

00:59:14.960 And the theological side of it, the religious side of it,

00:59:18.000 an essential part of that is a hatred of Christianity. 0.92

00:59:21.800 Of course.

00:59:22.600 And seeing all white people as Christians, whether they identify as Christians or not,

00:59:27.000 Jews identify us as Christians. 0.94

00:59:30.960 I think that's why it's so ridiculous to see people that claim to be white nationalists, 0.97

00:59:35.140 they're then attacking Christianity. 0.99

00:59:36.360 You know, that's what the Jew does, is attacks Christianity. 1.00

00:59:40.260 We should be using Christianity to unite our people.

00:59:44.140 You know, 65% of white people in America, 65% in Britain, identify as being Christian.

00:59:51.160 So if you're going to then go and attack Christianity,

00:59:54.000 you're not likely to bring those people to our side.

00:59:57.460 You're just likely to offend them.

00:59:58.560 And I think people that adopt this attitude really need to take a hard look at history.

01:00:02.420 Because, frankly, and this is really an inexplicable fact,

01:00:06.380 Christianity created Europe. 0.97

01:00:08.100 In the way that we understand ourselves as a pan-civilization that surpasses, you know, ethnic groups,

01:00:15.560 you know, the fact that an Anglo-Saxon and a Russian can think of themselves as being united under this idea of Europe,

01:00:24.200 this is a Christian idea.

01:00:25.780 Before Christianity, you know, came onto the scene, 1.00

01:00:29.600 there was really very little in common between a Slavic tribesman and, you know, a Pict.

01:00:36.280 Well, yeah, there was trouble all over the place.

01:00:40.900 You can just read in the Chronicles of England and it tells you about, I think it was King Arthur,

01:00:45.900 he ended up going up to Scotland to fight against the Scots.

01:00:48.860 And he had them at the point of the sword, he could have slaughtered all of them. 0.91

01:00:51.960 And they said, well, look, we're Christians just the same as you. 0.95

01:00:55.220 And he held back the sword and didn't slaughter them.

01:00:58.420 And that was sort of the beginning of the United Kingdom in Britain.

01:01:01.620 And so that's just in Britain.

01:01:02.960 We know that the same thing happened throughout Europe.

01:01:06.340 And Christianity was a force that helped to unify us.

01:01:10.000 I think this is one of the great things about these podcasts that you're doing, Florian,

01:01:14.000 is that you're going to be going into the history and explaining that.

01:01:17.320 And I'd like to check out some of the earlier stuff that you did, that you were talking about.

01:01:21.800 What was the name of that original series that you said that you did?

01:01:25.060 Fast Course World History.

01:01:26.340 There are several of those episodes up on archive.org.

01:01:28.840 The best of them I can recommend is the episode on Codrianu is excellent.

01:01:34.280 And the episode on Helena Blavatsky and David Bowie, which is really an episode on Alistair Crowley,

01:01:39.220 are both excellent.

01:01:40.340 So check those out.

01:01:41.960 Okay, well, we'll do.

01:01:43.000 And also remind listeners that we've also got Florian Gaia's Mysterium Fashes that we're playing on Mondays.

01:01:51.180 And you can also find the download for that on our radio schedule and also at the Daily Stormer.

01:01:56.160 So, Florian, thank you very much for coming on today.

01:02:00.220 And hopefully I'd like to maybe do something like this again in the future if you're interested in that.

01:02:06.040 So thank you very much, listeners, for listening.

01:02:08.060 And we'll be back soon with more Arian Insights for you in the future.

01:02:11.560 Thank you very much.

01:02:12.240 It's been an absolute pleasure.

01:02:13.520 Ave Maria.

01:02:13.920 You're tuned in to Radio Area.

01:02:33.800 Arian Insights for you in the future. 0.59

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