In this episode, Fr. and discuss how to deal with so-called woke people in the Orthodox Church of America (OCA). What are they? How do they relate to the PC Normidox and Ameridox? What does it mean to be a "woke person"? And how can we deal with them?
00:10:30.980But anyhow, he was visiting and stopping by, and we had a mini-side conversation, and he had been quite nationalistic and very supportive of it.
00:10:45.920So you definitely have a lot of woke people in the Orthodox community, especially for monastics.
00:10:55.920I mean I think that any kind of like bastion of traditional Orthodoxy where it's Athenite or Russian, if you hang around a monastery like that long enough, you're going to meet the world people.
00:11:07.760And like attracts like, and without going into too many details, I've had some, let's say, significant experience and exposure to this principle in action over the recent months and years.
00:11:20.320And I can tell you that if you're in like a kind of a hardcore traditional monastic environment or someplace like that, these people are kind of behind every bush.
00:11:31.540Indeed. Very much different from the PC Normidox and Ameridox, though, which were like those that think that egalitarianism is the ultimate virtue and nationalism is all abhorrent and stuff that's preached by some.
00:11:51.840I guess that ties into another question, and it is, what are your thoughts and advice on dealing with the PC Normidox and Ameridox?
00:12:03.120I mean so there are a couple of things to unpack here.
00:12:06.400You have to deal with the people themselves, and you have to deal with the issue behind their kind of ideology and their worldview.
00:12:12.540Perhaps we'll address that first and then come to the personal sort of pastoral second.
00:12:16.140So the issue with so-called Ameridox – I think one of the questions you submitted, you asked me to kind of define what is Ameridoxy and what are Ameridox people.
00:12:25.460Well, the answer to that question is basically that the term Ameridox basically refers to someone who is trying to blend the worldview of Orthodox Christianity with the worldview of American liberal democracy or what we could call anything sort of –
00:12:46.220In Catholic terms, you'd use the heresy of Americanism, but just kind of the Enlightenment worldview I think is a more precise way to talk about it.
00:12:54.540And so the – because both of us live in North America, you run into these people a lot because when people come into the faith, it's not just like they get magically – a switch is flipped in their head and they become fully ingratiated in the worldview of traditional Russia or Rome.
00:13:14.880You know, it takes time for the milieu that they've come out of to be sort of purified and cleansed from them, especially if they're not actively seeking to reject it.
00:13:26.080And so naturally they try to conciliate between the Orthodox worldview and the worldview of where they come from, which is by and large this kind of Americanism.
00:13:36.220And the issue is that the two are completely incompatible with one another.
00:13:45.020And so that's the thing is that you run into these – there's good people in the Orthodox Church of America, but I think they kind of epitomize a lot of it, these kind of OCA types who well and truly are in many ways foreign to the Orthodox worldview.
00:14:03.200You know, and it's, you know, case by case and person by person.
00:14:06.900The OCA is a very heterogeneous and mixed body.
00:14:09.840There's some very traditional people there and very good Christians and, you know, I don't – but there also is like a lot of not-so-good Orthodox Christians and people who have a very lukewarm and degenerated Orthodox worldview and practice.
00:14:23.420And so that's the thing is that – this is just the natural consequence of the, you know, spreading of that, you know, the pure water of Orthodoxy in a sea of the black ink of modernity is that, you know, you're going to get a lot of people who have that kind of muddy water, unfortunately.
00:14:41.420You know, and so this is the issue is that, you know, in terms of how to deal with these people, it really depends.
00:14:46.380It's case by case because a lot of times, sometimes these people would – they would just be well-meaning, you know, even devoted, pious Orthodox Christians who just have never had incompatibilities between the Orthodox worldview and the American worldview explained to them before.
00:15:01.340They've never seen the arguments for kind of a traditional, you know, ethnic-based social polity put forward.
00:15:12.000They've never been educated, you know, and so in those cases, the best thing you can do is to be charitable with them and in a spirit of fraternal love to try and educate them and to correct the errors in the worldview, right?
00:15:27.000And while also accepting the reality that, of course, in the church, as long as you have a genuine Orthodox worldview, we don't have to agree on politics, we don't have to – or there's a legitimate diversity of opinion.
00:15:37.820But the cornerstones, the values, right, that Orthodox worldview, again, without using the term too many times, that's non-negotiable.
00:15:44.320It's part of – it flows directly from the mystery of the church.
00:15:48.260And so how that's appropriated and how that's instantiated in people's lives is, you know, there's a legitimate diversity of opinion.
00:15:54.400But the foundation is not up for debate and, you know, the foundation of a worldview endorses values like the importance of, you know, ethnicity and human social organization, of tradition, of hierarchy, of monarchy, of moral regulation, of economics, of political justice, and all of these sort of things that we understand to be the core of, you know, sort of social nationals and national socialists.
00:16:18.780You know, whatever term you want to use for a sort of high Tory monarchist worldview trying to struggle and instantiate itself in the contemporary environment.
00:16:36.720You know, and that's the thing is there's going to be a lot of these people, and that's the thing is you're going to – you have people like that who are, you know, good-natured and just – they're, you know, uneducated.
00:16:47.900And, you know, maybe they go to an OCA parish or something, you know, or a Greek parish, and, you know, they've never – they don't know.
00:16:56.080They're ignorant, so you can educate them.
00:16:57.340You're also run into people who, you know, there's another type which is more difficult to deal with, people who are actively attempting to pervert the orthodox worldview and to fit it into a modern contextual environment.
00:17:13.760I've seen these people before, even priests, and even Rokor, well, of course, like, no diocese or parish is immune from heresy.
00:17:23.860But I remember at the time when Dr. Johnson released his – not necessarily an article, but, like, a document and also a podcast on interracial marriage, things like that, and that caused a huge backlash and even a petition going around, like, renouncing racism.
00:17:47.940Even though in their petition from the orthodox clergy, it didn't even define what racism even is.
00:17:54.520Like, I mean, if it's, like, belief in one race is completely superior to another, then, yeah, that's wrong.
00:18:02.260I think all races have their own flaws.
00:18:19.800So that's the thing is it's – no particular denomination is immune from these sort of things, and it's just a result of the decadent in the Babylonian culture, although obviously some tend towards higher levels of tradition and others less.
00:18:32.500And, you know, so the thing is is that there's a couple of different things going on here, right?
00:18:39.400I mean, on the one hand, you have the general cultural decay, but on the other hand, you have the influence of soft power over these denominations, you know, and places like St. Vladimir's Seminary are notorious for being very liberal and modernist.
00:18:55.520You know, and that is the result of both monetary and cultural influence, you know, upon them to adopt such a worldview.
00:19:06.940And, you know, and you have, you know, for instance, one priest who wrote against Dr. Johnson's article, we'll go unnamed, you know, he's married to an Asian, right?
00:19:15.720And so, of course, you know, and so he might be traditional in all other respects, and, you know, but when it comes to this particular issue, obviously that's going to be personally difficult for him to deal with.
00:19:25.700But the reality of the orthodox position on this subject has been pretty consistent throughout history.
00:19:30.960It's that no one is saved on the basis of their ethnic background.
00:19:35.860And, you know, someone can be mixed race and have salvation in Christ, but it's always been discouraged for eminently practical reasons that, you know, we even know statistically speaking it's not a matter of opinion.
00:19:47.580You can go and look up the rates of mental illness, of drug abuse, of social alienation, of all of these things are much, much higher for the children of mixed race couples, even, you know, like white, Asian, or whatever.
00:20:01.840And so, and divorce rates are higher, that kind of thing.
00:20:04.040So on the basis of practical community stability, the welfare of children, and the integrity of the national community, right, that, you know, these have always been discouraged.
00:20:14.440But it's been understood that, you know, even if one of these unions does come about, it can be blessed by God.
00:20:20.840And so that's, you know, a hard distinction that we make from, you know, say people with Christian identity or, you know, pagans or materialists where, you know, we don't say, no, these people are not outside salvation.
00:20:36.660It's perfectly legitimate as an orthodox nationalist, you know, and you can say that someone is in the church, but they're not in my political community on the basis of culture and ethnicity.
00:20:56.120So, but kind of to come back to the issue of how to pastorally deal with people that are, you know, willfully distorting the orthodox worldview, they're either going to do it for two reasons.
00:21:05.180They're going to do it because either they want to conform to modern society and they don't want to make trouble.
00:21:09.820And in such cases, you need to remind them that that is the opposite of an orthodox practice that we have to, you know, while not looking out to necessarily, you know, pie in everyone's faces or something like this.
00:21:27.480Because Christ is very clear, you know, with me or against me.
00:21:30.580And that Christ himself faced, you know, the total opposition from his contemporary society and from the ruling elite of the context that he was in because he told the truth.
00:21:39.000And he promised us that we would face the same if we really believed in him.
00:21:43.340And so this is the question, is that if you're a true believer in Christ and his disciple, you need to expect to be opposed by the powers of the world.
00:21:51.240And if the powers of the world are not opposing you, then you need to look within yourself.
00:21:58.480And so the second, of course, is a category of subversives.
00:22:04.480And, you know, these people, it's more difficult to deal with them.
00:22:11.060You have to, you know, be careful when you're trying to figure out someone naive is someone just a little cowardly or someone truly, you know, lizard-like in their disposition.
00:22:24.380Of course, if that's the case, you have to deal with it much more sternly and severely.
00:22:28.320You know, you take sort of a mixed style depending on the case.
00:22:31.240You know, that we don't tolerate people to blaspheme, especially in the context of the church, no question.
00:22:38.500We don't tolerate people within the context of the church to blaspheme the teachings of Christ and the essential cornerstones of the natural law, which flow directly from him.
00:22:48.420You know, so if you run into people saying that, you know, ethnicity doesn't matter or this kind of stuff or, you know, that orthodoxy is totally opposed to the use of force to resist evil.
00:23:01.740And if they're obstinate and persistent in their error, despite being corrected, despite being shown, you know, the litany and retinue of examples of the Holy Fathers which refute their claims, you know, you have to deal with them a little more harshly.
00:23:46.700I mean, uh, I did, I mentioned earlier in the episode, I did a recent interview with Tim Kelly of our interesting times on the subject of, of the ethnic displacement of European peoples in Lower Mainland, British Columbia, Iran, Vancouver, by Chinese.
00:24:02.020And at the end of that, I kind of got into, like, the general overview of, of the same thing that's, that's within this is the plan, which is, you know, you can read William S. Lind and listen to his lectures on fourth generation warfare to understand, you know, what basically has to, has to be done.
00:24:19.780One is that ideally for, you know, the English speaking people of North America, in an Orthodox context, what you want to do is you want to create a nucleus of primary loyalty that is able to combat the influence of the state and, and sort of the regime, um, as Dr. Johnson would put it.
00:24:36.680So that people are loyal to their church, to their parish community, to their family, and in an integrated sense, rather than to the society at large or to the passions or to money or whatever.
00:24:49.800And so that, that, that process is done the way that it's always done, by you having, having good families, you know, raising them correctly, engaging in parish life, trying to build up your community, you know, uh, organizing with people of a similar worldview and like mind.
00:25:12.580Which is what I see myself as in the future, like, really.
00:25:15.900I mean, uh, you know, my situation, like, no, like, where I currently am at in, in life right now.
00:25:22.140I want to, I want to announce it here.
00:25:24.100But, uh, as soon as my contract is over and, and it's done and over with, I'm probably going to go in and try to be a community builder of some sort.
00:25:34.760I mean, there's simply no way of winning back North America through the political system by any means.
00:25:47.960So we may end up losing some territory here, but I have to really start getting those that are scattered, you know, that are woke and wanting to help their community and just really put them in a higher concentrated area, build a community and start families.
00:26:09.400That's what I see myself doing is being some kind of traditionalist community builder of some sort for.
00:26:15.660Yeah, well, that, that is, that is definitely one of the most important things, you know, and that could be difficult.
00:26:23.560That's, you know, that's, you know, hence the importance of, of, you know, family building because obviously the family is the smallest version of society in the state that you directly have control over.
00:26:43.100So the, the idea is that, you know, you create these sort of nucleuses of, of sanity, of, of orthodox society.
00:26:51.000And then you do, you know, you do, you know, you do, which is within your power to reduce the power that the state has and increase the power that your own alternative organization has.
00:27:04.940And firstly, that's the spiritual power, obviously the commanding the primary loyalty, but, you know, secondarily, that's economic power.
00:27:11.180And power can be easily defined as the ability to reward people who engage in behavior that you like and to punish people who engage in behavior that you do not like.
00:27:19.520So I'm not suggesting that you should kill your local Baalbad.
00:27:28.140You know, but within that framework of trying to take away power from the state and, you know, from the state, from the regime at large, sort of from the Babylonian system, you know, there's like lots of good, good, you know, ideas that follow exactly the same line.
00:27:44.820You know, economic primarily, that if you can keep resources within that kind of closed community, you know, and to employ people, to work for people, to cook for people, to produce goods and services for people.
00:28:03.500I thought about doing that, thought about opening a restaurant or a shop of some sort just to have people, you know, mingle around, putting in our theoretical community, be a good meeting spot for people to just socialize because a lot of us who are woke and red-pilled or don't really have much of a social life because of our values now.
00:28:24.640Right, well, and that's a big problem, you know, and is that people, you know, to be happy, to be correct, you know, you have to have, you have to be properly socialized.
00:28:35.220Yeah, you have to have human interaction.
00:28:37.180You can't just be on your computer all day memeing.
00:28:39.580Right, and I also, I know, I would definitely also counsel people against, you know, let's say that they get sort of woke and they have this kind of radical worldview.
00:28:48.380Well, you know, that doesn't mean that you have to divorce yourself from the kind of normies in your life or anything like that, especially not your family, God forbid.
00:28:57.640You know, the way that you deal with your mother shouldn't be based on politics.
00:29:03.000I mean, it should be based on values, and there are certainly circumstances where the value conflicts are so radical that you might not be able to talk to them.
00:29:10.360Which is, well, I'm not going to get into it now.
00:29:14.320I was going to dive into more of my personal life, but then again, it's not such a good idea due to doxing reasons.
00:29:27.640But that's it, is that sometimes, and unfortunately, people are in such a position, you know, and, you know, if you are, it's perfectly reasonable to have grounds for engagement with members of your family or people in your life that are reasonable, you know, and sometimes that runs into value conflicts that are irreconcilable and personality conflicts and so forth.
00:29:49.300And, you know, God willing, if you have enough humility to make sure that you're not, you know, exacerbating the problems through being, through whatever, sometimes that's unfortunately the case is that you have to, you know, not permanently sever, but maybe not talk to them.
00:30:05.280But, yeah, just temporarily be distant.
00:30:08.280Now, that should be really only something that you do if there's no other option, especially with members of your family.
00:30:14.320But it's, you know, it's the same thing with people in your life, right?
00:30:22.400You know, so it's a, this kind of comes back to, like, the whole thing.
00:30:27.500I mean, part of this is just to, you have to be healthy, you know, you have to have a good life in a capital G sense where you, you know, you can live, right?
00:30:39.860You can live and you're not wandering around gripped by dependence to, you know, liquor or drugs.
00:31:39.220We all have our vices that we have to overcome.
00:31:41.560And this is especially true in North America.
00:31:43.960And I think that, you know, if we look at, like, what's happened with the far right since the election of Donald Trump and the complete, like, flaming collapse of any sort of right-wing organizational structure, this has been primarily due to not only, you know, ideological worldly defects, but personality defects.
00:32:03.840I think after his election, after his victory, a lot of people, I'll even admit it, including myself, kind of got a bit complacent, even though many swore to, like, hey, let's, we're not putting our trust in the system.
00:32:16.660We're just going to use him as a tourniquet to try to slow things down that are coming against us.
00:32:22.300But anyhow, it's, it is, it is first and foremost, indeed, a internal conflict.
00:32:36.300And so that's, you know, that's a very difficult thing because we all have, we all have vices that are stamped on us, usually from, you know, childhood, right?
00:32:48.680We grow up in a society which incentivizes passions and which cultivates them and vice and wickedness and evil.
00:32:55.620And especially if you're a convert to the faith, a lot of people that I've run into are converts, you know, they're converts because they've seen spiritual evil, right?
00:33:06.780And sometimes that's in the world, sometimes that's in themselves, sometimes that's both.
00:33:09.860And, you know, when you encounter that real evil out there in the world, you know, it affects you, marks you, right?
00:33:17.080And it takes time and, you know, toil and diligence to, to be purified and to be cleansed, to be healed from that.
00:33:22.800That's why it's so important, you know, at the foundation, just go to church frequently, go to confession, God willing, every week, try to receive communion, you know, on Sundays and major feast days.
00:33:30.660And then part of that, you know, over time, that's the, the continual purification or approach, but with Christ, his grace fills you more and more, right?
00:33:40.380You know, you, you, you become deified, but it's a process.
00:33:43.840It's a process, you know, Christ is not a wizard and magician and the sacraments are not magic.
00:33:48.260It's part of an over, it's like a hospital for the soul, right?
00:33:51.140Is the, is the classic example and analogy.
00:36:09.980You know, I mean, I talk to orthodox people a lot, people interested in orthodoxy,
00:36:13.280that are very far from their nearest church, and their nearest church might be some lukewarm OCA or Greek parish, right?
00:36:19.580And that's not, you know, that doesn't satisfy what they're after.
00:36:22.480I mean, they want, you know, the full hardcore truth, right?
00:36:25.260So to that end, you know, you have to do what you possibly can in your situation and rely on God.
00:36:31.020It's another reason why it's very important that young people, young orthodox people,
00:36:35.280who feel that they have a calling to the priesthood need to seriously examine the potential of that.
00:36:42.100That, you know, if you feel drawn in this direction, talk to your spiritual father, you know, consider going to seminary.
00:36:49.180That the best thing that we can possibly do, you know, is to, you know, create more orthodox clerics with such a mindset that can help galvanize and organize that community.
00:37:02.640But again, it's not all up to the clerics, right?
00:37:06.480It's the whole body of Christ that needs to be organized in such a fashion.
00:37:10.420And so this is why the family is so important, that if you have an orthodox family, even if you don't have access to such a church, well, the house is its own church.
00:37:23.980But is something, something real and concrete, you know, and that to give a young child the benefit of a wholesome environment and worldview and upbringing based on traditional principles is the greatest thing that you can do in order to struggle for the kingdom of God.
00:37:41.340I mean, this is, this is how people work.
00:37:44.600Most people, historically speaking, who are not monks, work out their salvation is in the context of their family life and in their social life, you know.
00:37:52.600And a lot of this is, you know, not necessarily so explicitly political.
00:37:59.760It comes back to the values and the charity and to build up a culture of charity, of solidarity, economically, spiritually.
00:38:07.740And that's what we're commanded to by Christ, that, you know, the world shall know us by the love that we have for one another.
00:38:13.680And so that could be as simple as, you know, going early to church to, you know, help Batushka, you know, get things ready or whatever the parish demands of you, financial contributions, you know, anything that, you know, you can think of.
00:38:32.300Going to visit, you know, sick Babushka, right, in the hospital, you know, cleaning up your parish ground.
00:38:44.680And especially it's in the hospitality that we show for one another to receive Orthodox people, even if they're not necessarily some sort of super woke person, to receive Orthodox people with the true Christian spirit of love and warmth.
00:39:00.500This makes an impression on people, and it's what we're commanded to do.
00:39:04.680And, you know, when people, if you're known as a source of the, of Christian love, of radiance and warmth, well, you know, people are well disposed towards you, and they can see it in you.
00:39:16.280And when you present your worldview, they know that it comes from a place of integration, of healthfulness, of virtue, that it's not just some sort of crazy, you know, whatever, ramblings.
00:39:28.120They're much, they're much better disposed to accept a, you know, coming over to your point of view, right.
00:39:36.520And, again, that comes back to the reality of the spiritual life, you know, all of this stuff, it can't be, can't be done in a false spirit.
00:39:42.860It has to be, it has to be real, right.
00:39:44.700And, you know, that requires working on our own spiritual issues, which is, of course, the lifelong task, so.
00:39:59.320Well, and so the second thing, so that's one of the issues, I think, that's going to be addressed in this untitled forthcoming work.
00:40:06.280But, you know, secondarily, it's going to be sort of a compendium of articles, I guess is the way to put it, from several different authors.
00:40:14.900The second thing that I, for me specifically, is, obviously people who are listeners of Mysterium Fashion, this is going to be a total review.
00:40:24.780But, kind of the, on the one hand, the necessity of Orthodox people to act towards political justice, and then the necessity of people who are wanting, want to act towards political justice to have an Orthodox foundation.
00:40:40.840And that's been the whole point of Mysterium Fashion is that the whole idea is to kind of bring those two pieces of the puzzle together, where you see what the manifestation of a legitimate Orthodox political philosophy is in the context of the modern world.
00:40:58.420And also the people who want political justice from a right-wing perspective, why you can't ignore the theology of it.
00:41:07.260The theology is the center and anchor of everything.
00:41:09.820It's not just a dry academic position, but the reality of the mystery and the spirituality as you live it in your life.
00:41:16.820That virtue and philosophical integrity all spring from the same source, the logos, that's Christ.
00:41:24.360And so the whole purpose of the article will be trying to lay out that kind of chain.
00:41:37.300If you see that you have, that the modern world has incredible and deep injustices and wickedness and evil, well, you want to address such problems, you want change, whether in your own life and society at large.
00:41:52.040Well, you need a perspective from which you can make such a claim.
00:41:55.840I mean these are not – as humans, we have a certain nature, so we react in a certain way.
00:42:01.720But at the end of the day, if you want to be serious, you actually have to have reasons for why you do things beyond just it feels correct.
00:42:08.140And so, I mean if something is unjust, well, why is it unjust?
00:42:10.780What's your foundation of seeking some sort of readdress of grievances?
00:42:14.620If the tyranny of the modern economic system – well, why is that wrong?
00:42:21.000Well, why – because that's the thing.
00:42:24.600Some people in the far right, they have the worldview of well, might mix right.
00:42:29.640Well, if that's true, then the oligarchic capitalists, the Yehud, they're correct.
00:43:20.100Yeah, and so that's the thing is that you have to have consistency, and these things quickly unravel.
00:43:26.640It's just because most people, they operate off of emotions, and they don't have that kind of theology or philosophy, which is necessary because these things have to be sustainable.
00:43:36.120You know, secondarily, from the other perspective, right, is that, you know, for orthodox people, well, you know, not all orthodox people because not every person is political, right?
00:43:48.480Women, by and large, are not political, okay?
00:43:51.000They don't have a political, you know, impetus or galvanization despite the lies of modernity and, you know, totalitarian democracy and communism on one hand and the other.
00:44:05.740But especially if you're a man of decent character and ability, you know, you do have a duty to advocate and witness to the gospel and part of the reality of that gospel.
00:44:19.060In fact, the greatest context of the gospel besides worship, correct worship of God and the mystery, is the social dimension, how you deal with your fellows.
00:44:27.440And politics is one part of human organization, and we know that Christ has come to deify and to uplift all of human relations, and politics is no exception.
00:44:37.440And so the manifestation of justice in society should be one of the chief concerns for those who want to see Christian charity prevail in the social realm.
00:44:47.580And, you know, that means that when you're coming from a traditional worldview, the enforcement of natural law at a minimum, and it doesn't have to be some sort of, you know, legionary state or some sort of, you know, czar anointed by God in order to achieve such things.
00:45:03.220You know, an orthodox Christian can go along with, relatively speaking, any political system that is willing to enforce basic natural law, of course.
00:45:11.260But what we have is the complete opposite in 21st century North America.
00:45:16.740We have a system that not only is not enforcing natural law, but is perverting it and doing the inverse.
00:45:23.680Perverting it in every way imaginable, basically.
00:45:27.860So you have a system which is taking, you know, it's not that they're taking your money and then not giving you justice.
00:45:34.480Well, they're taking your money and tyrannizing you.
00:45:36.580And beyond tyranny, you know, the Roman Empire tyrannized Christians who paid taxes.
00:45:42.120But they are trying to pervert the very – they're committing blasphemy against the Holy Spirit in a systematic and total way which could never have been imagined by the Roman emperors and by the state.
00:45:52.920Where people don't even have the framework to say what's right and what's wrong.
00:45:58.220They take the essence of human anthropology, you know, gender, relationships between men and women, the point of the telos of life, and then they smash it into pieces.
00:46:09.480They reduce it to that kind of – that flux, right?
00:46:11.540That sludge, that brown goo, you know, and this antichrist system is the Babylon, you know, the spiritual Babylon.
00:46:23.380And so as Orthodox Christians, any serious Orthodox Christian has a duty to oppose that noetic Babylon, first of all within themselves, obviously.
00:46:32.520But if you're a politically responsible person, typically men, you have to oppose that in your society.
00:46:41.100And, you know, that means advocating for – if not, of course not a perfect political solution, not LARPing, but something that conforms to natural law at the minimum.
00:46:52.000And so that's going to be kind of the overview of what I'm going to present.
00:46:54.280I mean, and the people who – again, if you listen to Syrian fascists, this is nothing new.
00:46:58.680This is why we try to do what we do and think what we think is because we want to see, you know, the realization of a society and in communities that, you know, just are normal in the sense that they have the rudiments of natural law are being adapted, you know, healthy families, basic justice, economically speaking.
00:47:20.100And, you know, and again, this is – this comes back to the issue is that especially as we see, you know, the boomers' generation are dying away.
00:47:35.500You know, we say we have clerics, bishops, many of whom might be traditional, many of whom might even be woke, right?
00:47:44.220But they don't necessarily understand the social context of the youth and the current – the generation who's blossoming up.
00:47:52.400They don't kind of realize that like for some Zoomer today, well, he doesn't have any serious hopes of like being able to be like the breadwinner for a family and own his own property and have a traditional wife who –
00:48:11.220you know, at least a good woman, not even traditional wife, like a decent woman who is not going to divorce him and steal his money and his children, right?
00:48:20.560I mean these – that's unlikely for a Zoomer.
00:48:24.360And that I think a lot of these bishops and priests, they don't get that, that fundamental social reality.
00:48:30.360And that's one advantage where people who are coming from such generations or millennials or Zoomers or Gen X who do get that.
00:48:37.400That's why it's so important that you need to be active.
00:48:41.200And you need to do what you can in order to try and address and reach out to these people and help them, to uplift them, you know, who want something good, right?
00:48:48.460And, you know, that's I think a point that we can be very hopeful in is that as things get worse, we see that among the youth, well, they realize that they've been handed a bag of shit to be vulgar and they want something better than that.
00:49:00.020They want something, you know, that does not try to extort them openly, especially among young men who are receiving the brunt of this extortion.
00:49:09.360You know, and so I think that, well, of course we understand, but we focus our efforts in helping these people, you know, especially, you know, you see young men in your parishes, in your community and whatever, to look upon them as younger brothers, right?
00:49:23.540To try and give them what you can of Christian love and of healthy upbringing and correct values, support them, all this, you know?
00:49:31.520And these are basic points, but they're critical because that's what life is made out of.
00:49:34.920You know, most of life is not politics.
00:49:36.280It's not in the sense of, you know, formal ideology.
00:49:40.220It's the inaction of values between people.
00:50:23.400God willing, I'll be able to make some, some more episodes intermittently.
00:50:26.460I mean, I can't, especially during, during the summer when I'm not, uh, engaged in full-time studies.
00:50:31.920I hope to make some more content, and I hope to do more things like interviews with you or different people, that kind of thing, to contribute in whatever way.
00:50:38.880But long-term, I'm not certain, you know, that it can be kept up indefinitely for reasons of, of OPSEC that, um, you know, that I need, uh, the worst thing that could be done is for the activity of Mysterium Fashies to get me doxed and to raise a lot of stink.
00:51:01.880And to, um, you know, hinder what I'm trying to do, let's just say vocationally, okay?
00:51:12.260Right, without going into too many details.
00:51:14.280And so, I have a very strong feeling that it's important to just kind of lay low and to take a lower profile and that kind of thing and not get myself in a whole bunch of crap and mess up, um, things that I'm trying to do.
00:51:31.880So, in, that, that will be, God willing, to the benefit of, to the Church and to our people here in Mataparaka.
00:52:04.940God willing, God willing, you know, and, frankly, you know, to all of the listeners and fans, you know, I'm deeply flattered by your appreciation.
00:52:13.080And, and, more than that, I want to, uh, ask for your prayers.
00:52:18.280Um, you know, they're definitely needed.
00:52:20.100We all need to be praying for each other in, uh, in such times, because that spiritual support is critical.
00:52:27.140It's foundational with our love, you know?
00:52:29.200Well, especially as members of the church together, something we, we have, we're committed to, committed to.
00:52:35.100So, I would appreciate deeply, you know, your prayers and your support, and especially to ascribe glory to God above all things.
00:52:46.040That if, in any way, these lectures or materials have been helpful to you, understand that truth always comes from God, and to him is the glory and honor and power, rather than his unworthy agents.
00:52:59.420Well, your lectures, your podcasts have been a great, big help to me.
00:53:05.540I mean, as I was even inquiring in Orthodoxy, I stumbled across your, uh, your, uh, your podcast years ago, and I found what I was looking for, and I just want to say thank you for making Mysterium Fascis, and I only hope to pass this, uh, information, lectures, and content, uh, on for the future generations to come.
00:53:29.420And, and, yeah, you, you are indeed missed, uh, Florian.
00:53:34.860Like, uh, Mysterium Fascis is, I think the people want, on, are cheering, on, I think your listeners are just, just cheering, encore, encore.
00:54:01.100But that, you know, I, I understand, and I feel it, you know, and, uh, I know that there's a, it sort of occupies a certain role that other, that other podcasts or content don't.
00:54:12.480You know, there's not a lot of that good content these days, and people want this.
00:54:37.300I mean, is there any last, uh, remarks or advice, uh, you'd like to give to your, to the audience and, uh, to your listeners?
00:54:45.920Well, aside from, uh, you know, redoubling my, uh, request that people, people pray for me, um, just, just to not lose hope.
00:54:56.640So, this isn't critical, to not give in to despair and despondency and, I mean, the lethargy of daily life and to take care of yourself spiritually firstly, you know.
00:55:06.860And that's the foundation of everything is, is our persons.
00:55:09.980And we all have our issues again, you know, it's easy to say, but make sure that you, the foundations are correct.
00:55:17.740You go to church if you can, if, you know, pray every day.
00:55:21.040You know, struggle and to keep things balanced, you know, eat properly, you know, take care of yourself, socialize with friends, be good to your family members, to other Christians, basic regular things, you know, to, to be healthy.
00:55:36.400To be healthy, it's the most important thing because without that, without at least something, basic core of sanity in this wicked and very diseased world, we can't do anything.
00:55:45.420And I think if we've seen anything of the, the, the spectacular failure of our movement in the last couple of years, it's that the lack of internal spiritual health and the ability to, to say truth but not to live it in your life, this is the greatest unfold we will have.
00:56:05.420And so, I would just encourage the foundation, which is Christ, that's everything, that's everything.
00:56:11.080So, you know, go to church, love your family and your community, worship God correctly, and do what you can to help our people.
00:56:20.860That's all that we can really be demanded of at the Day of Judgment.
00:56:24.600And, you know, I try my best to, to do my part.
00:56:31.660Well, Florian, I just want to thank you again for allowing me to interview you and just allowing and just to have a, have an update for the listeners.
00:56:40.660There's, uh, that have been commenting on the Archive channel, you know, just to see how you, just to see how you've been, you know, people have been wondering, like, what's the status of Florian Geyer?
00:56:51.620But anyhow, uh, you know, thanks for coming on, and to the listeners, I apologize, this is my first, uh, recording first podcast ever.
00:57:00.360I've got a lot to learn and a lot to improve on as far as, uh, communications and talking goes.
00:57:06.260Well, I think that we can, uh, on that, uh, high note, bid them shalom.
00:57:48.420Als führt der Fleuang Geier ran, trotzacht und bann, den Bohnschub für der Rinderfahn hat Helm und Hardisch an.
00:58:04.420Als Adam Grubon wie verspann, hey, ja, ho, wo war denn da der Riedelmann?
00:58:16.520Hey, ja, ho, spieß voran, hey, auf und dran, setzt das Klosterdach den roter Heimhorn, spieß voran, hey, auf und dran, hängt am Fensterkreuz den Herrentagablan.
00:58:35.520Bei Weinsberg setzt es Brand und Stank, hey, ja, ho, gar mancher über die Klinge sprang, hey, ja, ho, des Edelmannes Pöchterlein, hey, ja, ho, will heute noch geschändet sein.
00:59:05.380Hey, ja, ho, ho, spieß voran, hey, auf und dran, setzt das Klosterdach den roter Heimhorn, spieß voran, hey, auf und dran, hängt am Fensterkreuz den Herrentagablan.