Mysterium Fasces


Mysterium Fasces Episode 10 — Skydas : Lithuanian Nationalism


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Summary

Florian Geyer is joined by three members of the Lithuanian Direct Action Nationalist Group, SkiBass (S.H.I.E.L.D. in Lithuanian) to discuss the history of the nationalist movement in Lithuania.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 CHOIR SINGS
00:00:30.000 CHOIR SINGS
00:01:00.000 CHOIR SINGS
00:01:29.980 Premier Direct Action Nationalist
00:01:32.080 Group, SkiBass, which I believe
00:01:33.920 means S.H.I.E.L.D. in Lithuanian.
00:01:37.000 Joining me here this week
00:01:38.220 I have myself, your host
00:01:40.080 Florian Geyer. Thank you for
00:01:42.020 joining us once again. We appreciate your
00:01:44.020 listening. I've got on the panel
00:01:45.920 with me Doc Savage. Thanks for joining us, Doc.
00:01:50.260 Glad to be here.
00:01:51.760 It's a pleasure to have you back on. We don't
00:01:53.600 get your insight enough, but that's, you know,
00:01:55.780 due to guest restraints, but
00:01:57.020 certainly we'll have you on more in the future.
00:01:59.840 We've got, as always, Grifahans. Grif,
00:02:01.740 thanks for your enduring fidelity.
00:02:03.700 Yeah, good to be on.
00:02:05.300 Nat Dainlan might join us at some point, but as
00:02:07.800 our listeners already know, his fidelity
00:02:09.640 is not so
00:02:10.640 enduring and consistent. But of course,
00:02:13.660 our guests of honor, and we've got three of them today,
00:02:16.440 of whom
00:02:17.520 their names I have not memorized,
00:02:19.880 nor have firmly in my mind, so I'll
00:02:21.700 allow them to introduce themselves. This is
00:02:23.440 SkiDAS, and the leader of them is
00:02:25.340 Vaikautas. Thank you, guys. Why don't you
00:02:27.640 just give a little introduction?
00:02:29.320 Hey, so, yeah, so my name is
00:02:31.060 Vytautas, and we are, we don't have
00:02:33.860 leaders, actually, in our
00:02:35.100 group, but
00:02:37.640 in that, in depth, we will get into
00:02:39.980 later on.
00:02:41.280 Yeah, I'm Jurgis.
00:02:42.840 And I'm Kazimir.
00:02:43.680 All right, thank you, Jurgis and Kazimir, for
00:02:47.360 joining, even though I probably will forget
00:02:49.480 your names. I don't take it personally.
00:02:51.760 No problem.
00:02:52.480 So to jump right into this,
00:02:54.120 I have heard about your group
00:02:55.740 tangentially through
00:02:57.660 Iron March, I believe.
00:02:58.920 Slavros had sent me a link, and I know that
00:03:01.060 you guys are basically
00:03:02.700 the game in town as far as
00:03:05.260 direct action groups in Lithuania is concerned,
00:03:07.340 as we already mentioned.
00:03:09.000 But I think that in order to kind of discuss
00:03:11.920 this subject properly, it'd be best for you
00:03:15.040 to give us kind of a little bit of the
00:03:16.360 background of what's going on in
00:03:17.880 Lithuania, because I imagine that a lot
00:03:19.700 of our guests probably couldn't even name
00:03:22.060 you the capital of Lithuania.
00:03:23.820 So what's the history of the nationalist
00:03:26.100 movement in your country?
00:03:27.540 Well, to talk about this, we should give you
00:03:38.920 some backstory from the early years of our
00:03:43.800 restoration of independence.
00:03:46.920 So basically what happened was
00:03:49.880 nationalists lost early on.
00:03:53.420 They couldn't become a parliamentary force
00:03:56.840 in 1904, so yeah, that was a big problem
00:04:05.140 because most parliamentary parties
00:04:08.400 became liberal at some point,
00:04:12.720 and today no other ideology is represented.
00:04:18.620 You have different parties by different names,
00:04:22.200 but they are all liberal.
00:04:23.580 There was a small youth movement, which was
00:04:28.980 nationalist, up until a few years ago, when it
00:04:34.140 basically broke up because of egoism of people.
00:04:41.780 So out of the remnants of it, we came out, basically.
00:04:49.180 Yeah, and what we're trying to do is very new here.
00:04:57.280 We don't have much infrastructure left or anything,
00:05:00.700 so our plan is just leaderless resistance for now.
00:05:04.920 Just trying to get some people together, that's our aim.
00:05:13.100 We don't have membership as high as national action, for example,
00:05:19.480 so it's hard to talk about street activism.
00:05:22.660 Yeah, but we're trying to be more active spreading the idea in general
00:05:30.860 of nationalism and fascism.
00:05:35.220 And for now, we are mostly active online.
00:05:39.560 Yeah, so.
00:05:41.660 Yeah, I understand.
00:05:43.060 Kind of a reasonable position.
00:05:45.120 I mean, egoism is definitely the downfall of many organizations
00:05:50.380 without a shadow of a doubt.
00:05:53.020 So I guess, so you were saying that after Lithuania
00:05:57.820 kind of regained its independence after communist rule,
00:06:02.820 all the parties that were left in terms of representational democracy
00:06:06.620 were liberal.
00:06:07.780 So what about, I'm not super familiar with the history of Lithuania,
00:06:13.760 but what about before World War II,
00:06:15.980 before it was occupied by the communists,
00:06:18.380 was there a greater nationalist movement?
00:06:22.360 Like historically, was there a very strong Lithuanian identity
00:06:25.900 or sort of a more worker-centric
00:06:32.060 or homeland-centric economic or social movement at all?
00:06:36.360 I'd actually like to think that Lithuania was the third fascist country
00:06:43.420 in the world right after Fiume and Italy itself
00:06:47.860 because in 1926, a military coup d'etat happened
00:06:54.820 and the military installed Antanas Matana into power
00:07:01.960 and what he basically did was he adapted Italian-style fascism to Lithuania.
00:07:10.220 So it was this soft pseudo-fascist version of Italian ideology,
00:07:19.520 but there were very distinct traits of fascism.
00:07:25.800 So I like to think that we were the third fascist country.
00:07:31.980 So yeah, the identity and ideology was very great,
00:07:38.160 very much advanced,
00:07:40.360 and it didn't have resistance from the populace.
00:07:47.340 Most people agreed with it,
00:07:49.160 and I'd say that the modern Lithuanian identity
00:07:55.300 was constructed by this pseudo-fascist regime.
00:08:01.020 So right before the Soviets occupied Lithuania,
00:08:06.840 yeah, we had a great identity.
00:08:14.300 But then again,
00:08:15.800 our regime didn't align with Axis regimes
00:08:20.500 because of problems
00:08:24.200 of historical animosity towards Germans
00:08:31.240 and their imperialism
00:08:33.200 because even though we all agree,
00:08:39.220 I mean, Lithuanians in general agree
00:08:41.240 that Germans were not our enemies
00:08:44.900 after the Great War,
00:08:50.780 they still did not abandon
00:08:53.500 some of their imperialist ambitions against us.
00:08:56.460 So it's kind of, you know,
00:08:57.980 a double-edged sword dealing with the Germans.
00:09:01.240 So back in the day,
00:09:04.000 Lithuania did not align with Axis,
00:09:07.320 unfortunately, as a state.
00:09:09.500 But yeah, many people,
00:09:12.500 I think over 20,000 Lithuanians
00:09:15.380 served in Axis forces.
00:09:17.900 And another thing that's very important
00:09:22.380 was June Uprising,
00:09:24.760 which happened when Germans invaded Soviet Union,
00:09:32.520 like Operation Barbarossa.
00:09:36.660 So at that time,
00:09:40.200 Lithuanian anti-Soviet resistance
00:09:42.640 was in touch with Abwehr,
00:09:47.480 and they organized a popular uprising.
00:09:52.080 So what happened was
00:09:53.380 most parts of Lithuania
00:09:55.840 were liberated by Lithuanian uprising
00:09:59.540 before even, like,
00:10:01.140 the German invasion force arrived
00:10:02.860 into Lithuania.
00:10:03.980 So this meant...
00:10:08.740 You're going to mean to...
00:10:10.960 You just cut out there.
00:10:12.160 So why don't you go ahead and restart
00:10:14.560 what you were saying from...
00:10:16.740 You cut off at about this meant...
00:10:19.340 What happened was...
00:10:20.320 All right, go ahead.
00:10:24.400 Yeah, so what happened was that
00:10:26.060 because of the popular uprising,
00:10:29.700 Germans liberated Lithuania in three days
00:10:33.520 with the help of Lithuanian insurgents.
00:10:36.820 So I guess that was the biggest input
00:10:41.860 into the war effort from Lithuanian part.
00:10:47.820 Yeah, no, and I certainly understand
00:10:50.080 the historical situation.
00:10:51.580 I mean, Lithuania and kind of
00:10:53.300 the rest of the Baltic countries
00:10:54.840 after the dismemberment of Poland
00:10:56.620 have kind of been in the middle of,
00:10:58.940 you know, three great powers,
00:11:00.200 Germany, Russia, and Sweden,
00:11:01.960 all vying for control of the territory.
00:11:05.180 So I can understand why, of course,
00:11:08.200 you know, any nationalist movement
00:11:09.680 in Lithuania would be skeptical,
00:11:12.740 shall we say,
00:11:13.300 of any of those three countries.
00:11:16.140 Well, you know,
00:11:17.020 there's still the third option.
00:11:18.160 Okay, Gustav Osudolfis,
00:11:21.320 you've been dead for a very long time.
00:11:23.100 Please come back to Turkey.
00:11:24.560 I actually have one question.
00:11:26.780 During the Russian Empire era,
00:11:29.300 how was the Russification policy
00:11:31.280 against Lithuania?
00:11:32.380 Because in Finland,
00:11:33.440 you know, they tried to make Finns
00:11:35.220 more and more Russians,
00:11:36.180 but how was it in Lithuania?
00:11:37.460 Yeah, so the Russian position
00:11:44.400 on this was kind of unique
00:11:46.740 because of our common state with Poland,
00:11:53.680 they deemed that the Poles
00:11:57.560 and Polish identity
00:11:58.660 is a bigger threat to the Russian Empire
00:12:00.820 than Lithuanian identity.
00:12:03.520 So they kind of tried
00:12:07.060 putting us one against the other.
00:12:12.160 They tried making Lithuanians
00:12:14.980 and Poles sort of enemies,
00:12:20.180 and it only served
00:12:22.960 to preserve Lithuanian identity
00:12:25.160 in the long run,
00:12:26.900 which is very ironic, of course.
00:12:29.660 But there was...
00:12:31.520 Soviet cognitive dissonance.
00:12:34.080 Yeah, but there was another policy
00:12:36.180 because there were two peasant uprisings
00:12:41.200 against the Russian Empire
00:12:42.480 in the territory of Polish
00:12:46.760 and Lithuanian Commonwealth.
00:12:49.100 They had economic aims mostly.
00:12:54.600 Restoration of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
00:12:56.980 was an aim, but it was not that important
00:13:00.640 as economic aims.
00:13:03.000 So anyway, after the second uprising,
00:13:05.760 which took place in 1864,
00:13:10.160 Russians decided to ban literature
00:13:16.520 in Latin, in Lithuania,
00:13:19.140 in order to make us use
00:13:21.100 Kyrelik alphabet,
00:13:23.640 and they figured it would get us russified.
00:13:28.260 But it had a huge resistance
00:13:32.680 from the people,
00:13:35.160 and what happened is
00:13:36.920 people organized
00:13:40.300 very well
00:13:43.720 smuggling operations,
00:13:46.620 book smuggling operations,
00:13:48.060 which is another unique
00:13:49.940 kind of episode.
00:13:52.540 I'm not aware
00:13:53.920 if any other nation
00:13:55.340 in Europe
00:13:56.060 had anything like this.
00:13:57.760 So what happened was
00:13:58.800 Lithuanians would print books
00:14:00.940 in Lithuanian,
00:14:02.120 in Latin alphabet,
00:14:02.880 in German Prussia,
00:14:04.880 and they would smuggle
00:14:06.040 the books into Lithuania.
00:14:07.940 And this was highly illegal.
00:14:10.960 So,
00:14:12.120 this campaign
00:14:14.520 served to increase literacy
00:14:19.940 a great deal,
00:14:21.180 and it kept Lithuanian identity
00:14:23.160 European.
00:14:26.540 This is your true story.
00:14:27.640 I haven't heard that before.
00:14:29.380 Another backfire of russification
00:14:31.920 was when they closed down
00:14:34.080 our universities,
00:14:35.620 actually they provided
00:14:36.620 their own universities
00:14:38.560 for Lithuanians
00:14:40.320 to study in,
00:14:41.540 and
00:14:41.920 they basically
00:14:43.140 had an input
00:14:45.560 of forming
00:14:46.340 our intelligentsia,
00:14:47.620 which backfired against them,
00:14:48.940 because
00:14:49.220 they gained education,
00:14:52.020 and
00:14:52.160 they used it
00:14:54.080 against the Russian Empire itself,
00:14:57.080 which basically
00:14:59.060 helped us gain independence
00:15:00.920 in the long run.
00:15:02.920 That's hilarious.
00:15:05.260 Yeah,
00:15:05.860 it's not
00:15:06.580 outside the realm of history.
00:15:08.760 Go ahead, Hans.
00:15:10.120 What's the
00:15:10.760 modern view on Russia, then?
00:15:14.680 Yeah,
00:15:15.220 it's problematic,
00:15:16.520 I would say,
00:15:17.420 in the sense that
00:15:18.880 all our
00:15:21.160 parties,
00:15:22.120 which are basically
00:15:22.860 all liberal,
00:15:24.320 they use Russia
00:15:25.100 only to
00:15:25.740 fearmonger.
00:15:26.720 today's politics
00:15:29.480 in Lithuania
00:15:30.080 are all about
00:15:31.180 Russians are going
00:15:32.880 to invade tomorrow.
00:15:34.280 Do you want that?
00:15:35.180 No?
00:15:35.620 Then vote for us.
00:15:37.940 So,
00:15:38.700 it's very
00:15:39.600 problematic,
00:15:42.540 because
00:15:42.840 there's no
00:15:43.680 objective
00:15:45.660 opinions
00:15:46.620 about
00:15:48.340 Russians,
00:15:49.300 and it's all
00:15:49.820 based on fear,
00:15:50.860 and also
00:15:51.980 another
00:15:53.560 problem,
00:15:54.500 which
00:15:54.760 most
00:15:55.520 small nations
00:15:56.500 have,
00:15:57.320 exists,
00:15:57.980 that is
00:15:58.600 inferiority
00:16:00.640 complex,
00:16:01.940 which means
00:16:02.620 we have
00:16:03.140 coxervatives
00:16:04.560 that cry
00:16:05.340 for Russians
00:16:06.860 to pay
00:16:07.320 reparations
00:16:08.260 for occupation,
00:16:10.200 which is,
00:16:10.780 I think,
00:16:11.320 it is
00:16:11.660 retarded,
00:16:12.480 because
00:16:12.820 it only
00:16:14.160 serves to
00:16:15.220 create
00:16:15.940 our
00:16:17.260 historical
00:16:18.220 narrative
00:16:18.660 as
00:16:19.400 victim
00:16:20.440 people,
00:16:21.500 like
00:16:21.780 what you
00:16:22.520 have with
00:16:22.900 Jews or
00:16:23.520 Armenians,
00:16:24.780 their whole
00:16:25.360 identities
00:16:25.940 are based
00:16:26.840 around crying,
00:16:28.420 because
00:16:28.780 somebody hurt
00:16:29.620 us in the
00:16:30.080 past,
00:16:30.540 and it
00:16:30.820 serves
00:16:31.280 nothing.
00:16:34.640 That's a very
00:16:35.040 interesting
00:16:35.420 perspective,
00:16:36.800 sir,
00:16:37.140 that's a very
00:16:37.520 interesting
00:16:37.920 perspective.
00:16:38.860 I really
00:16:39.240 appreciate it
00:16:39.960 when nations
00:16:41.200 actually decide
00:16:42.020 to pull out
00:16:43.160 the pacifier
00:16:43.840 from one's
00:16:44.880 mouth and
00:16:45.400 stop
00:16:45.720 pissing
00:16:46.200 on their
00:16:46.980 pants.
00:16:47.780 I think
00:16:48.180 it's really
00:16:48.480 good that
00:16:48.820 you're going
00:16:49.140 for a
00:16:49.460 stronger
00:16:49.720 narrative,
00:16:50.500 because
00:16:50.580 in terms
00:16:51.820 of,
00:16:52.140 I live
00:16:52.560 in Denmark,
00:16:53.300 the feedback
00:16:54.220 we get
00:16:54.560 from you
00:16:54.860 guys is
00:16:55.320 that,
00:16:55.880 you're
00:16:56.940 pretty much
00:16:59.820 known as
00:17:00.260 the victim
00:17:00.860 block,
00:17:01.740 but I'm
00:17:02.060 glad to
00:17:02.420 see that
00:17:02.940 the self
00:17:03.900 understanding
00:17:04.560 from you
00:17:05.060 nationalists
00:17:06.520 in Lithuania
00:17:07.580 is so strong
00:17:08.740 that you're
00:17:09.160 willing to
00:17:09.620 deal with
00:17:10.940 this
00:17:11.320 piss
00:17:13.280 baby
00:17:13.700 shit.
00:17:14.320 so I
00:17:15.260 admire
00:17:15.840 that.
00:17:16.860 Thank
00:17:17.460 you.
00:17:17.860 Yeah,
00:17:18.140 that's
00:17:18.560 my idea.
00:17:20.320 It has
00:17:20.880 been my
00:17:21.240 idea for
00:17:21.600 a long
00:17:21.860 time.
00:17:22.420 Instead
00:17:22.620 of crying
00:17:23.280 about those
00:17:24.300 things that
00:17:25.200 happened in
00:17:25.760 the past,
00:17:26.520 we should
00:17:27.140 create a
00:17:28.120 positive
00:17:28.480 narrative,
00:17:29.340 which we
00:17:30.040 think we
00:17:31.060 would do
00:17:32.040 with the
00:17:34.300 fact that
00:17:35.260 Lithuania
00:17:35.760 was the
00:17:37.580 third fascist
00:17:38.320 country in
00:17:39.100 the world,
00:17:39.860 and it
00:17:40.300 became so
00:17:40.920 in 1926.
00:17:44.000 It's
00:17:44.520 fascinating.
00:17:45.280 I think
00:17:46.200 myself and
00:17:46.960 most of
00:17:47.300 our viewers
00:17:47.780 really don't
00:17:48.900 know that
00:17:49.260 much about
00:17:49.700 Lithuania at
00:17:50.400 all, and
00:17:51.360 it's really
00:17:52.020 it is quite
00:17:54.100 a strategic
00:17:54.760 and important
00:17:58.220 part of the
00:17:58.680 world, and
00:17:59.260 really it
00:18:00.300 has been the
00:18:01.040 forefront of
00:18:02.020 an intercontinental
00:18:03.320 struggle for
00:18:04.020 a thousand
00:18:04.400 years, ever
00:18:05.420 since the
00:18:08.160 Dutch showed
00:18:08.660 up, now that I
00:18:09.180 come to think
00:18:09.600 of it, but
00:18:13.240 I digress.
00:18:13.600 Dutch are kind
00:18:14.180 of shit, to
00:18:15.920 be honest.
00:18:16.700 Yeah, but
00:18:18.660 I digress.
00:18:21.060 So what was
00:18:22.300 the situation
00:18:22.940 like in
00:18:23.420 Lithuania under
00:18:24.300 the control of
00:18:25.000 the communists?
00:18:25.840 Because my
00:18:26.120 understanding is
00:18:26.700 that's of
00:18:27.220 course what
00:18:27.500 happened to
00:18:28.320 Lithuania along
00:18:28.980 with most of
00:18:29.440 Eastern Europe
00:18:29.920 after Germany
00:18:31.600 was defeated.
00:18:34.440 Right, so
00:18:35.560 after the
00:18:37.040 actually not
00:18:39.060 even after
00:18:40.220 the war
00:18:40.580 ended, while
00:18:42.020 the Russians
00:18:43.820 advanced west
00:18:44.880 and Lithuania
00:18:46.540 was already
00:18:47.360 under their
00:18:47.900 control, anti-Soviet
00:18:49.400 resistance sprung
00:18:50.660 up everywhere.
00:18:52.320 Initially it
00:18:53.220 was supported
00:18:54.620 by Germans
00:18:56.300 and up there
00:18:57.120 and even
00:18:58.820 supplied by the
00:18:59.800 Germans by
00:19:00.600 airdrops.
00:19:01.440 and yeah,
00:19:05.700 basically the
00:19:06.600 Lithuanian
00:19:07.340 resistance
00:19:07.780 lasted right
00:19:09.560 up until
00:19:10.320 Stalin died
00:19:11.220 and some
00:19:12.120 fighters held
00:19:13.320 out for
00:19:13.940 decades longer.
00:19:16.880 The aim of
00:19:18.240 the resistance
00:19:18.980 was, and
00:19:22.960 the expectation
00:19:24.180 was...
00:19:24.440 Okay, so
00:19:28.420 technical
00:19:28.860 problems
00:19:29.800 notwithstanding,
00:19:30.940 let's get
00:19:31.320 back into
00:19:31.680 the conversation.
00:19:32.980 May God
00:19:33.480 help us
00:19:33.860 record this
00:19:34.620 episode.
00:19:35.520 So before
00:19:36.340 we had the
00:19:37.240 very rude
00:19:37.860 interruption
00:19:38.380 in our
00:19:38.740 recording,
00:19:39.840 you were
00:19:41.100 talking a
00:19:41.680 little bit
00:19:42.060 about resistance
00:19:43.060 to Soviet
00:19:43.940 occupation up
00:19:45.020 until after
00:19:45.560 the era of
00:19:46.040 Joseph Stalin.
00:19:47.140 I've heard
00:19:47.800 about these
00:19:48.160 guys.
00:19:48.420 Are these
00:19:48.680 the Forrest
00:19:49.420 brothers?
00:19:50.860 Yes, they
00:19:51.200 are.
00:19:51.660 Yeah, that's
00:19:52.600 how they're
00:19:53.380 called.
00:19:54.440 So, and
00:20:00.900 you see, you
00:20:01.340 said the
00:20:01.600 Forrest
00:20:01.840 brothers were
00:20:02.560 resisting the
00:20:03.440 occupation, you
00:20:04.440 know, long
00:20:04.880 after the
00:20:05.320 end of World
00:20:05.740 War II, you
00:20:06.980 know, into
00:20:07.460 the post-Stalinist
00:20:08.740 era.
00:20:09.080 What happened
00:20:09.620 to kind of
00:20:10.560 make the
00:20:10.900 resistance die
00:20:11.480 out?
00:20:11.740 Was it
00:20:11.960 simply a
00:20:12.440 matter of
00:20:12.860 people getting
00:20:13.300 adjusted to
00:20:13.880 life under
00:20:14.200 Soviet rule?
00:20:15.580 And more
00:20:15.920 so, was
00:20:16.900 there a
00:20:17.220 serious Soviet
00:20:17.920 attempt to
00:20:18.480 destroy
00:20:18.980 Lithuanian
00:20:19.720 culture as
00:20:20.620 it happened in
00:20:21.120 the rest of
00:20:21.640 Europe?
00:20:22.380 And what
00:20:22.640 was the
00:20:22.960 just, was
00:20:23.600 there,
00:20:24.000 like, huge
00:20:25.200 exportations of
00:20:26.180 families and
00:20:26.880 people to the
00:20:27.340 gulags and
00:20:27.860 stuff like that?
00:20:28.320 I'm curious about
00:20:28.900 to know, what
00:20:29.780 was the
00:20:30.060 treatment of
00:20:30.480 Lithuania like
00:20:31.200 under the
00:20:31.800 Stalinist regime
00:20:32.540 and the
00:20:32.940 Soviet regime?
00:20:34.840 Yeah, so,
00:20:35.920 where was I?
00:20:37.620 Yeah, the,
00:20:39.580 because the
00:20:40.540 resistance had a
00:20:43.120 huge popular
00:20:43.660 support, Soviets
00:20:44.780 resorted to
00:20:46.040 mass deportations
00:20:47.840 to Siberian
00:20:48.840 to Siberian
00:20:48.880 gulags.
00:20:52.380 I think the
00:20:53.140 number is
00:20:54.440 one-third of
00:20:56.980 all
00:20:57.680 Lithuanians
00:20:58.640 hurt one way
00:21:01.920 or another
00:21:02.480 by Soviet
00:21:03.920 repressions.
00:21:06.760 About
00:21:07.520 300,000 people
00:21:10.420 were deported
00:21:11.100 to numerous
00:21:14.920 institutions.
00:21:16.640 You have
00:21:17.080 gulags, but
00:21:17.860 gulags do
00:21:18.540 not, gulags
00:21:20.360 are not the
00:21:20.880 only ones.
00:21:21.680 There were
00:21:22.280 different types
00:21:23.440 of prisons.
00:21:23.920 So, we
00:21:24.900 have 300,000
00:21:26.300 Lithuanian
00:21:27.440 civilians
00:21:27.900 deported.
00:21:30.560 Yeah, this
00:21:31.440 was done to
00:21:32.640 break the
00:21:33.820 popular support
00:21:34.960 to the
00:21:36.420 resistance.
00:21:37.680 But these
00:21:39.720 policies ended
00:21:40.680 when Stalin
00:21:41.300 died and
00:21:42.660 with the
00:21:44.220 change of
00:21:45.080 the Soviet
00:21:46.920 regime,
00:21:49.220 resistance
00:21:52.320 kind of
00:21:53.060 became less
00:21:54.520 and less
00:21:54.840 supported
00:21:55.420 by the
00:21:57.120 populace
00:21:57.720 because
00:21:59.400 Soviets
00:22:01.220 offered
00:22:01.840 amnesty
00:22:02.480 and it
00:22:03.520 was kind
00:22:04.660 of legitimate
00:22:05.820 amnesty.
00:22:07.440 Stalin
00:22:07.700 offered
00:22:08.220 numerous
00:22:08.640 amnesties,
00:22:09.320 but none
00:22:09.920 of them
00:22:10.480 were real
00:22:11.100 and if
00:22:12.800 one would
00:22:14.880 give up
00:22:15.460 during
00:22:16.520 Stalin's
00:22:17.420 reign,
00:22:18.360 he would
00:22:18.800 just get
00:22:19.180 killed
00:22:19.560 pretty much.
00:22:21.820 Yeah, so
00:22:22.280 because of
00:22:24.700 change of
00:22:25.420 the Soviet
00:22:26.880 regime,
00:22:28.560 resistance
00:22:28.960 ultimately
00:22:29.660 faded
00:22:33.160 and the
00:22:35.740 resistance
00:22:36.320 to Soviet
00:22:37.320 policies
00:22:37.820 became
00:22:38.340 cultural.
00:22:42.120 Right, so
00:22:43.320 would you say
00:22:43.860 that
00:22:44.240 what we
00:22:47.420 typically see
00:22:48.120 with ex-Soviet
00:22:49.320 states is that
00:22:50.140 the oppression
00:22:51.380 they faced
00:22:52.300 culturally under
00:22:53.200 the Bolshevik
00:22:54.780 regime resulted
00:22:55.960 in a tighter
00:22:56.840 and more
00:22:57.280 integrated culture
00:22:58.120 after they
00:22:58.700 exited
00:22:59.260 Soviet space
00:23:00.980 and we can
00:23:01.460 certainly see
00:23:02.020 in countries
00:23:02.480 like Poland
00:23:03.860 and Hungary
00:23:04.380 where they
00:23:04.740 have a fairly
00:23:05.540 substantial
00:23:06.280 nationalist
00:23:07.080 and right-wing
00:23:08.040 movement in
00:23:08.540 their countries.
00:23:09.940 Why is it
00:23:10.600 that in
00:23:10.880 Lithuania the
00:23:11.740 country is
00:23:12.460 still dominated
00:23:13.100 from a
00:23:13.540 parliamentary
00:23:13.880 perspective
00:23:14.500 by liberal
00:23:15.580 politics and
00:23:16.660 the culture
00:23:17.180 didn't emerge
00:23:18.060 kind of stronger
00:23:19.100 more integrated
00:23:19.800 and more
00:23:20.200 nationalist?
00:23:23.400 That's a
00:23:24.240 thing I
00:23:25.280 often wonder
00:23:25.840 myself because
00:23:26.600 the culture
00:23:27.340 itself emerged
00:23:28.620 stronger and
00:23:30.780 with a
00:23:32.500 more integrated
00:23:34.140 identity
00:23:34.960 but I
00:23:38.780 have no
00:23:39.160 explanation for
00:23:39.860 this.
00:23:40.380 Why it did
00:23:41.060 not transfer
00:23:42.920 to the
00:23:43.440 political
00:23:43.800 sphere
00:23:44.460 if you
00:23:48.240 compare
00:23:49.000 all
00:23:50.400 Eastern
00:23:51.220 European
00:23:51.500 countries
00:23:51.960 in this
00:23:52.340 regard
00:23:52.780 you can
00:23:53.940 clearly see
00:23:54.560 that it
00:23:56.420 has to do
00:23:57.000 with the
00:23:57.560 fact that
00:23:58.460 even though
00:23:59.480 those states
00:24:02.240 like Poland
00:24:03.020 and Hungary
00:24:03.520 were communist
00:24:04.720 they were
00:24:06.240 puppets
00:24:12.060 they had
00:24:12.660 some
00:24:13.100 autonomy
00:24:14.700 and they
00:24:15.420 were ruled
00:24:15.860 by local
00:24:16.460 communists
00:24:17.120 the Baltic
00:24:18.120 states
00:24:18.480 also were
00:24:20.440 subjects
00:24:22.640 within the
00:24:24.020 Soviet Union
00:24:24.860 Soviet
00:24:25.260 Republic
00:24:25.600 so we
00:24:27.320 also had
00:24:28.000 some
00:24:28.700 autonomy
00:24:29.240 and our
00:24:30.020 communist
00:24:30.440 party
00:24:30.860 was made
00:24:32.280 up by
00:24:32.700 Lithuania
00:24:33.080 and Latvian
00:24:34.080 communist
00:24:34.480 party
00:24:34.860 was made
00:24:35.340 up by
00:24:36.240 Latvians
00:24:36.680 but the
00:24:39.340 policies
00:24:39.780 within the
00:24:41.660 local
00:24:41.960 communist
00:24:42.320 party
00:24:42.800 are to
00:24:44.180 blame
00:24:44.480 for these
00:24:46.460 types of
00:24:46.920 things
00:24:47.160 because for
00:24:48.460 example
00:24:48.780 Latvian
00:24:49.420 and Estonian
00:24:50.220 communists
00:24:50.880 were much
00:24:54.140 more
00:24:55.580 globalist
00:24:57.040 in their
00:24:57.620 thinking
00:24:58.000 so they
00:24:58.620 basically
00:24:59.020 let in
00:25:00.500 the Russian
00:25:02.120 colonists
00:25:02.880 on their
00:25:03.260 own
00:25:03.520 of course
00:25:04.720 there was
00:25:05.040 pressure
00:25:05.360 from
00:25:05.700 Moscow
00:25:06.320 but
00:25:07.120 ultimately
00:25:07.740 they
00:25:08.140 made the
00:25:09.240 decision
00:25:09.580 to let
00:25:10.060 Russian
00:25:10.620 colonists
00:25:11.300 in
00:25:11.580 on their
00:25:12.140 own
00:25:12.360 and
00:25:12.780 Lithuanian
00:25:13.220 communist
00:25:13.600 party
00:25:13.960 did not
00:25:14.520 it resisted
00:25:16.060 the orders
00:25:17.180 from Moscow
00:25:17.760 a quick
00:25:18.440 quick question
00:25:18.960 the
00:25:21.560 Lithuanian
00:25:22.720 communist
00:25:23.160 party
00:25:23.380 was that
00:25:23.720 by any
00:25:24.280 chance
00:25:24.860 financed
00:25:26.540 as well
00:25:26.900 as
00:25:27.160 inspired
00:25:28.100 and supported
00:25:28.740 by Moscow
00:25:29.540 now I'm
00:25:30.640 primarily
00:25:31.000 referring to
00:25:31.600 this with
00:25:32.280 Finland
00:25:33.460 as an
00:25:34.400 example
00:25:34.740 in mind
00:25:35.280 where the
00:25:36.180 communists
00:25:36.980 in Finland
00:25:37.480 were heavily
00:25:38.380 financed
00:25:39.220 by the
00:25:40.680 Moscovites
00:25:41.440 yeah of
00:25:43.280 course
00:25:43.540 it was
00:25:44.280 from the
00:25:45.500 beginning
00:25:45.760 organized
00:25:46.420 and financed
00:25:47.020 by Moscow
00:25:47.540 but for
00:25:48.480 some reason
00:25:49.080 Stalin
00:25:50.480 let
00:25:51.060 Lithuanian
00:25:51.640 communist
00:25:51.980 party
00:25:52.340 have much
00:25:53.100 more
00:25:53.500 autonomy
00:25:54.100 than
00:25:54.980 Latvian
00:25:55.720 or Estonian
00:25:56.320 communists
00:25:57.040 had
00:25:57.340 and there's
00:25:58.360 no
00:25:59.120 explanation
00:26:01.100 for this
00:26:01.600 basically
00:26:02.020 it's
00:26:02.540 an anomaly
00:26:03.620 yeah
00:26:04.180 and
00:26:04.880 we have
00:26:05.940 I have a
00:26:06.280 question
00:26:06.660 yeah sure
00:26:07.720 how many
00:26:08.200 how many
00:26:08.760 Russians
00:26:09.380 are living
00:26:10.780 in
00:26:11.180 Lithuania
00:26:12.100 at this
00:26:12.660 very moment
00:26:13.360 6%
00:26:14.260 of the
00:26:15.140 population
00:26:15.560 are Russians
00:26:16.220 oh that's
00:26:17.560 quite a bit
00:26:18.080 6%
00:26:20.080 6%
00:26:20.600 is that
00:26:21.260 is that
00:26:22.100 number
00:26:22.360 growing by
00:26:22.960 any chance
00:26:23.460 no it's
00:26:24.080 it's
00:26:24.340 it's
00:26:24.600 dropping
00:26:24.940 it's
00:26:25.560 decreasing
00:26:25.940 significantly
00:26:26.740 yeah
00:26:28.300 are there
00:26:29.240 any serious
00:26:29.720 ethnic
00:26:30.100 tensions
00:26:30.700 vis-a-vis
00:26:31.540 the minority
00:26:32.040 population
00:26:32.680 it depends
00:26:35.240 on the
00:26:35.520 area
00:26:35.840 because
00:26:36.340 our
00:26:37.420 ethnic
00:26:38.660 minorities
00:26:39.200 Russians
00:26:40.360 and
00:26:41.580 Poles
00:26:42.540 they live
00:26:43.400 in compact
00:26:44.940 areas
00:26:45.500 in eastern
00:26:46.520 Lithuania
00:26:47.080 so
00:26:47.940 there
00:26:48.500 are some
00:26:49.780 tensions
00:26:50.200 but they
00:26:50.860 usually are
00:26:51.400 local
00:26:51.760 and they
00:26:52.300 do not
00:26:52.720 cause
00:26:54.140 nationwide
00:26:55.140 problem
00:26:56.140 because
00:26:57.500 the reason
00:26:58.680 I'm asking
00:26:59.340 into this
00:26:59.840 is because
00:27:00.480 I get
00:27:01.720 in the
00:27:02.660 west
00:27:02.960 we talk
00:27:03.340 a lot
00:27:03.620 about
00:27:03.920 like
00:27:04.220 a
00:27:04.460 potential
00:27:04.920 Russification
00:27:05.740 of the
00:27:07.760 Baltic
00:27:08.460 area
00:27:08.860 now
00:27:09.540 what I'm
00:27:10.600 primarily
00:27:10.960 thinking about
00:27:11.600 because I
00:27:11.980 was kind
00:27:12.320 of curious
00:27:12.640 about this
00:27:13.140 particularly
00:27:13.920 in relation
00:27:15.080 to for
00:27:15.600 example
00:27:15.980 Latvia
00:27:16.620 where
00:27:17.300 according
00:27:17.700 to what
00:27:18.080 is it
00:27:18.300 2014
00:27:19.020 it was
00:27:19.620 estimated
00:27:20.080 that
00:27:20.520 26%
00:27:21.720 of the
00:27:22.080 population
00:27:22.580 was actually
00:27:23.100 Russian
00:27:23.520 and it
00:27:24.740 is growing
00:27:25.340 26%
00:27:27.700 yeah
00:27:29.120 26%
00:27:29.980 of the
00:27:30.700 Latvian
00:27:31.080 population
00:27:31.580 are
00:27:31.800 Russians
00:27:32.280 actually
00:27:32.960 for example
00:27:34.100 if you
00:27:34.400 take
00:27:34.620 Riga
00:27:34.980 the
00:27:35.440 Latvian
00:27:35.720 capital
00:27:36.220 55%
00:27:39.200 of people
00:27:40.180 in Riga
00:27:40.900 are Russians
00:27:41.680 it's much
00:27:43.600 more
00:27:43.940 and you
00:27:44.220 have a
00:27:44.780 much
00:27:44.960 bigger
00:27:45.240 problem
00:27:45.700 yeah
00:27:46.880 wow
00:27:48.360 that's
00:27:48.960 that's
00:27:49.240 insane
00:27:49.580 I thought
00:27:50.860 we
00:27:51.140 I thought
00:27:51.760 Somalis
00:27:52.240 were a
00:27:52.540 problem
00:27:52.820 no you
00:27:55.760 know
00:27:55.880 for the
00:27:56.300 record
00:27:56.520 I'm not
00:27:57.020 implying
00:27:57.460 that
00:27:57.700 Russians
00:27:58.040 are
00:27:58.280 Somalis
00:27:58.720 that's
00:28:01.980 another
00:28:02.220 issue
00:28:02.680 that's
00:28:03.000 another
00:28:03.180 issue
00:28:03.500 I
00:28:03.700 kind
00:28:04.660 of
00:28:04.780 want
00:28:04.980 to
00:28:05.100 address
00:28:05.380 because
00:28:05.840 there
00:28:06.840 are
00:28:07.320 two
00:28:07.500 types
00:28:07.840 of
00:28:08.080 Russification
00:28:08.780 if you
00:28:09.380 will
00:28:09.640 that
00:28:10.620 deal
00:28:11.300 with
00:28:11.600 Bolshevism
00:28:12.560 so you
00:28:12.900 have
00:28:13.220 ethnic
00:28:15.040 Russians
00:28:15.820 as
00:28:17.000 coming
00:28:17.680 as
00:28:17.920 colonizers
00:28:18.580 which is
00:28:19.440 not nice
00:28:20.100 but
00:28:20.920 then you
00:28:21.740 also have
00:28:22.400 the culture
00:28:23.060 itself
00:28:23.440 the Bolshevik
00:28:24.100 culture
00:28:24.500 which means
00:28:25.120 making people
00:28:26.160 rootless
00:28:26.660 and
00:28:27.560 these are
00:28:29.380 two different
00:28:30.280 approaches
00:28:30.980 they took
00:28:31.820 against
00:28:32.280 the Baltic
00:28:33.040 people
00:28:33.480 since
00:28:35.720 Lithuania
00:28:36.360 did not
00:28:36.700 experience
00:28:37.220 mass
00:28:37.640 colonization
00:28:38.560 by Russians
00:28:39.840 we
00:28:41.420 instead
00:28:42.360 we experienced
00:28:43.260 a much
00:28:44.180 much greater
00:28:46.720 cultural
00:28:47.860 influence
00:28:50.560 like
00:28:52.160 from the
00:28:53.460 Russian
00:28:53.880 Bolshevik
00:28:54.520 culture
00:28:55.220 so more
00:28:55.840 more
00:28:56.680 Jewish
00:28:57.320 and less
00:28:57.920 Russian
00:28:58.520 is kind
00:28:58.960 of what
00:28:59.180 you're
00:28:59.300 saying
00:28:59.560 perhaps
00:29:00.100 this
00:29:00.320 explains
00:29:00.660 the
00:29:00.880 reason
00:29:01.140 why
00:29:01.480 parliamentary
00:29:01.920 politics
00:29:02.500 are so
00:29:02.840 liberal
00:29:03.200 yeah
00:29:04.480 the problem
00:29:05.940 is
00:29:06.260 if you
00:29:07.960 look from
00:29:08.560 today's
00:29:09.820 perspective
00:29:10.340 in regard
00:29:12.320 to
00:29:12.520 nationalism
00:29:12.940 what you
00:29:13.460 have now
00:29:13.860 is
00:29:14.180 for example
00:29:14.960 in Latvia
00:29:15.660 since
00:29:17.100 Russians
00:29:17.800 comprise
00:29:18.420 such a
00:29:19.000 big part
00:29:19.680 of their
00:29:20.040 population
00:29:20.640 everyday
00:29:22.480 Latvians
00:29:23.100 they feel
00:29:24.080 threatened
00:29:24.680 and they
00:29:26.320 see
00:29:27.340 the threat
00:29:29.860 of
00:29:32.860 other
00:29:33.360 migrants
00:29:35.580 so to
00:29:36.000 say
00:29:36.220 opposed
00:29:36.960 to their
00:29:37.540 survival
00:29:38.040 so that's
00:29:39.300 why they
00:29:39.740 become
00:29:40.220 much
00:29:40.740 more
00:29:41.360 nationalist
00:29:41.820 and
00:29:42.340 that's
00:29:43.180 why they
00:29:43.500 vote
00:29:43.780 for Latvian
00:29:44.700 nationalists
00:29:45.340 and that's
00:29:45.940 why
00:29:46.220 national
00:29:46.740 APVNIVA
00:29:47.540 have
00:29:48.320 huge support
00:29:50.440 they are
00:29:51.020 the third
00:29:51.640 party
00:29:52.700 in parliament
00:29:53.420 they have
00:29:55.260 huge support
00:29:55.800 I don't think
00:29:56.660 any other
00:29:57.920 genuinely
00:29:59.100 nationalist
00:29:59.580 party
00:30:00.060 in Europe
00:30:00.720 has such
00:30:01.300 a support
00:30:01.760 they're not
00:30:02.920 populist
00:30:03.460 they're
00:30:03.960 genuine
00:30:04.300 nationalists
00:30:05.360 and they
00:30:05.860 do have
00:30:06.340 this support
00:30:07.780 so
00:30:08.420 I think
00:30:09.780 it's
00:30:10.300 because
00:30:11.480 they have
00:30:12.180 such a
00:30:13.100 big number
00:30:13.560 of Russians
00:30:14.100 while
00:30:15.020 in Lithuania
00:30:15.760 we don't have
00:30:17.220 this number
00:30:18.020 of colonists
00:30:18.780 and the people
00:30:20.220 are
00:30:20.780 apathetic
00:30:21.880 they do
00:30:23.140 not see
00:30:23.700 a threat
00:30:24.460 they
00:30:25.280 they are
00:30:26.980 overtaken
00:30:27.680 by individualist
00:30:29.000 and liberal
00:30:29.660 values
00:30:30.440 because of
00:30:31.140 that
00:30:31.400 and yeah
00:30:32.080 it transfers
00:30:32.640 to politics
00:30:33.280 yeah
00:30:33.600 so
00:30:34.260 they're not
00:30:35.000 noticing
00:30:36.360 that
00:30:36.840 the cornfields
00:30:38.740 are burning
00:30:39.160 you know
00:30:39.520 they're not
00:30:39.980 noticing that
00:30:40.600 because their
00:30:41.020 own cornfield
00:30:41.620 is not burning
00:30:42.300 I have a
00:30:44.480 question
00:30:44.960 a general
00:30:45.620 question here
00:30:46.240 in terms
00:30:47.880 of relations
00:30:48.620 between
00:30:49.540 Lithuania
00:30:50.880 Latvia
00:30:51.500 and Estonia
00:30:52.740 do you
00:30:53.620 consider each
00:30:54.260 other to be
00:30:55.000 brother peoples
00:30:56.220 do you have
00:30:58.100 any sort of
00:30:59.460 you know
00:30:59.780 in between
00:31:00.580 banter
00:31:01.160 you know
00:31:01.620 a friendly
00:31:02.760 hatred
00:31:03.240 if you will
00:31:03.820 and how
00:31:04.460 in general
00:31:05.120 is the
00:31:05.580 relations
00:31:06.380 between
00:31:06.920 Estonians
00:31:07.580 Latvians
00:31:08.520 and Lithuanians
00:31:09.380 there's no
00:31:10.760 hatred
00:31:11.140 it's
00:31:12.660 it's all
00:31:13.800 about love
00:31:14.280 really
00:31:14.680 we
00:31:16.320 that's pretty
00:31:17.020 gay
00:31:17.380 no homo
00:31:19.000 we sort
00:31:19.640 of compete
00:31:20.280 we sort
00:31:21.680 of compete
00:31:22.360 in economic
00:31:23.480 sense
00:31:23.980 you know
00:31:24.520 we have
00:31:24.920 Lithuania
00:31:25.400 newspapers
00:31:25.780 saying oh
00:31:26.760 Estonia
00:31:27.380 overtook us
00:31:28.240 again
00:31:28.540 in some
00:31:29.540 issue
00:31:29.880 or something
00:31:30.640 yeah but
00:31:31.260 that's it
00:31:31.880 we all
00:31:33.080 friendly competition
00:31:33.920 essentially
00:31:34.420 yeah
00:31:34.820 we all
00:31:35.680 consider each
00:31:36.300 other
00:31:36.500 brother folk
00:31:37.940 yeah
00:31:38.580 that's very
00:31:40.920 interesting
00:31:41.420 because my
00:31:41.840 understanding
00:31:42.380 is that
00:31:42.800 the like
00:31:43.640 the national
00:31:44.180 origins of
00:31:44.860 Lithuania
00:31:45.360 Latvia and
00:31:46.320 Estonia are
00:31:47.060 really like
00:31:47.720 radically different
00:31:48.920 in terms of
00:31:49.460 the language
00:31:49.980 and the religion
00:31:50.700 and the even
00:31:51.760 the ethnic
00:31:52.200 group
00:31:52.560 so
00:31:54.380 Latvians
00:31:55.680 and Lithuanians
00:31:56.980 are the same
00:31:57.620 people
00:31:58.040 oh okay
00:31:59.180 yeah
00:31:59.940 basically our
00:32:00.900 differences
00:32:01.380 come from
00:32:02.180 the fact
00:32:02.620 that
00:32:03.540 crusader
00:32:05.960 state
00:32:06.780 occupied
00:32:07.560 them
00:32:07.960 you know
00:32:09.380 like
00:32:09.880 Lithuanians
00:32:10.600 are Latvians
00:32:11.420 that remained
00:32:12.000 independent
00:32:12.660 and Latvians
00:32:13.720 are Lithuanians
00:32:14.480 that got
00:32:14.940 subdued by
00:32:15.500 the Germans
00:32:16.020 basically
00:32:16.760 we are
00:32:17.460 people
00:32:18.040 yeah
00:32:20.680 during the
00:32:22.620 the Livonian
00:32:23.620 Brotherhood
00:32:24.180 yeah
00:32:25.920 when it
00:32:26.880 when it
00:32:27.440 occupied
00:32:28.040 Latvian
00:32:30.160 parts of
00:32:30.640 Estonia
00:32:31.140 that's
00:32:32.540 that's
00:32:33.340 the point
00:32:33.740 from which
00:32:34.340 our cultures
00:32:35.040 diverged
00:32:35.660 because
00:32:36.080 up until
00:32:37.200 then
00:32:37.500 Lithuians
00:32:38.180 and Latvians
00:32:38.720 were the
00:32:39.120 same
00:32:39.300 people
00:32:39.740 interesting
00:32:42.900 because
00:32:43.360 yeah
00:32:43.760 I do
00:32:44.300 know
00:32:44.540 that
00:32:44.740 in the
00:32:45.160 I think
00:32:45.700 it was
00:32:45.860 like in
00:32:46.080 the 12th
00:32:46.860 to 11th
00:32:47.400 century
00:32:47.660 you had
00:32:48.460 like the
00:32:48.740 teutonic
00:32:49.220 order
00:32:49.660 as well
00:32:50.140 as a
00:32:50.880 certain
00:32:51.120 other
00:32:51.420 nation
00:32:51.960 come by
00:32:54.300 and invade
00:32:54.760 you
00:32:55.000 because you
00:32:55.740 were pagans
00:32:56.660 yeah
00:32:57.260 yeah
00:32:57.880 yeah
00:32:58.820 they had
00:32:59.580 crusades
00:33:00.260 organized
00:33:01.880 throughout
00:33:02.280 Europe
00:33:02.560 against us
00:33:03.440 that
00:33:03.700 there
00:33:03.880 there
00:33:03.900 are
00:33:04.080 you
00:33:04.220 know
00:33:04.340 records
00:33:04.740 of
00:33:05.020 basically
00:33:05.720 every
00:33:06.600 European
00:33:06.980 nation
00:33:08.040 that was
00:33:08.520 Christian
00:33:09.060 at the
00:33:09.500 time
00:33:09.820 coming
00:33:10.520 to
00:33:10.780 crusade
00:33:11.200 here
00:33:11.520 and
00:33:11.920 you
00:33:12.200 know
00:33:12.340 they
00:33:12.580 all
00:33:12.780 failed
00:33:13.200 you know
00:33:15.540 it
00:33:15.860 that's
00:33:16.300 interesting
00:33:16.960 that's
00:33:17.520 interesting
00:33:18.100 because
00:33:18.480 from what
00:33:19.720 I remember
00:33:20.340 in
00:33:21.080 the 12th
00:33:21.840 century
00:33:22.280 Estonia
00:33:23.960 did get
00:33:24.540 subdued
00:33:25.180 by a
00:33:27.080 certain
00:33:27.360 nation
00:33:27.820 yeah
00:33:28.720 they
00:33:29.000 were
00:33:29.880 subdued
00:33:30.540 by the
00:33:30.880 Danes
00:33:31.380 yeah
00:33:31.740 they were
00:33:32.560 well I
00:33:33.380 mean
00:33:33.540 what can
00:33:34.000 you expect
00:33:34.440 is that
00:33:35.460 the point
00:33:35.760 in history
00:33:36.140 where God
00:33:36.720 reached down
00:33:37.380 and handed
00:33:37.840 Denmark
00:33:38.200 the Danneborg
00:33:38.860 well
00:33:40.440 it is
00:33:41.780 that is
00:33:42.300 actually a fact
00:33:42.940 I mean
00:33:43.680 listen
00:33:44.200 Denmark
00:33:45.580 was given
00:33:46.060 Danneborg
00:33:46.520 at a
00:33:47.060 great battle
00:33:47.940 against the
00:33:48.820 unwashed
00:33:50.080 Estonian
00:33:50.720 hordes
00:33:51.460 of barbarism
00:33:52.380 and of course
00:33:53.200 we were given
00:33:53.780 this one true
00:33:54.660 banner by God
00:33:55.700 can I
00:33:58.280 comment that
00:33:58.880 please
00:34:00.000 no
00:34:00.420 I mean
00:34:00.940 this
00:34:01.420 no shut up
00:34:02.220 this is a
00:34:02.660 clear example
00:34:03.580 of Danish
00:34:04.840 revisionism
00:34:06.580 oh
00:34:07.360 here we go
00:34:08.540 Danish
00:34:09.180 revisionism
00:34:10.000 is that
00:34:11.700 the Lithuanians
00:34:12.700 the Lithuanians
00:34:14.460 were like
00:34:14.820 like a thousand
00:34:15.300 people
00:34:15.540 you had like
00:34:15.860 three thousand
00:34:16.340 you're like
00:34:16.660 outnumbering
00:34:17.220 three to one
00:34:17.780 so of course
00:34:18.280 you win
00:34:18.680 and then you
00:34:19.500 brag about
00:34:20.040 that oh
00:34:20.420 we beat up
00:34:21.120 some pagans
00:34:22.780 in the balkers
00:34:23.240 look how great
00:34:24.600 we are
00:34:25.080 numbered one
00:34:25.880 to four
00:34:26.880 no
00:34:27.640 that's
00:34:28.760 Danish
00:34:29.240 revisionism
00:34:29.840 I refuse
00:34:30.680 to believe
00:34:31.260 that
00:34:31.560 listen
00:34:32.200 next time
00:34:32.820 he's going
00:34:33.120 to deny
00:34:33.560 the battle
00:34:34.000 of curbe
00:34:34.600 and then
00:34:35.300 he's going
00:34:35.560 to say
00:34:35.860 oh
00:34:36.260 but
00:34:36.700 battle
00:34:37.760 of
00:34:38.000 listen
00:34:38.600 that never
00:34:39.220 happened
00:34:39.640 and you
00:34:40.060 know it
00:34:40.580 oh the battle
00:34:41.720 of curbe
00:34:42.080 that didn't
00:34:43.080 happen
00:34:43.360 I agree
00:34:44.380 with you
00:34:44.640 Matt
00:34:44.860 well I
00:34:46.140 think
00:34:46.320 that
00:34:46.520 let's
00:34:48.360 go back
00:34:48.700 to the
00:34:49.300 exactly
00:34:49.720 let's
00:34:50.160 ignore
00:34:50.660 this
00:34:51.160 petty
00:34:52.200 bourgeois
00:34:53.760 chauvinism
00:34:54.660 get back
00:34:55.620 to the
00:34:55.960 Swedish
00:34:56.360 delusions
00:34:57.820 let's ignore
00:34:58.440 them
00:34:58.680 let's continue
00:34:59.340 yes exactly
00:34:59.760 Danish
00:35:00.760 or more
00:35:01.200 bourgeois
00:35:01.520 sweets
00:35:03.520 order
00:35:04.880 order
00:35:05.460 in the
00:35:05.720 podcast
00:35:06.000 please
00:35:06.460 now
00:35:07.600 returning
00:35:08.280 to
00:35:08.600 our
00:35:09.220 esteemed
00:35:09.640 guests
00:35:10.020 so
00:35:10.600 it's
00:35:11.280 very
00:35:11.500 fascinating
00:35:11.960 it certainly
00:35:13.240 puts a lot
00:35:13.840 of things
00:35:14.320 as far as
00:35:15.400 the history
00:35:15.900 of the
00:35:16.160 baltic
00:35:16.440 states
00:35:16.820 in a
00:35:17.200 perspective
00:35:17.700 and there
00:35:18.880 are some
00:35:19.220 things here
00:35:19.560 that I
00:35:19.820 want to
00:35:20.260 come back
00:35:20.660 to
00:35:20.860 but I
00:35:21.780 think
00:35:22.000 that
00:35:22.280 moving on
00:35:23.400 and kind
00:35:23.660 of the
00:35:24.020 structure
00:35:24.440 how receptive
00:35:26.520 would you
00:35:26.920 say like
00:35:27.540 the everyday
00:35:28.280 Lithuanian
00:35:28.960 is to
00:35:29.680 nationalism
00:35:30.240 or the
00:35:30.820 culture
00:35:31.100 at large
00:35:31.640 is there
00:35:32.100 like a
00:35:32.460 strong
00:35:32.920 sense of
00:35:33.480 national
00:35:33.860 identity
00:35:34.260 and fraternity
00:35:35.020 within
00:35:35.340 like the
00:35:36.680 average
00:35:37.340 Lithuanian
00:35:37.940 and is
00:35:38.780 there a
00:35:39.120 strong
00:35:39.480 divide
00:35:39.880 between
00:35:40.340 urban
00:35:40.960 and rural
00:35:41.640 populations
00:35:42.320 as far
00:35:42.760 as their
00:35:43.000 identity
00:35:43.360 and attitudes
00:35:43.940 yeah
00:35:47.560 I guess
00:35:48.900 if you
00:35:49.360 would
00:35:49.540 compare
00:35:50.140 generic
00:35:52.800 Lithuanian
00:35:53.400 to a
00:35:53.780 generic
00:35:54.040 Westerner
00:35:54.640 you
00:35:55.240 people
00:35:56.080 would say
00:35:56.960 we are
00:35:57.320 very
00:35:57.600 nationalist
00:35:58.180 like
00:35:59.000 naturally
00:35:59.600 inherently
00:36:00.460 but
00:36:01.500 yeah it
00:36:03.220 all depends
00:36:03.780 on circumstances
00:36:04.640 here because
00:36:05.520 urban people
00:36:06.820 are
00:36:07.800 very liberal
00:36:09.200 and it
00:36:09.820 comes from
00:36:10.860 the
00:36:13.280 inferiority
00:36:14.620 complex
00:36:15.120 they possess
00:36:15.620 because
00:36:16.480 yeah this
00:36:17.640 is
00:36:17.920 this is
00:36:18.640 basically
00:36:19.380 a remnant
00:36:20.100 of
00:36:20.400 Sovietism
00:36:21.560 we have
00:36:23.040 people
00:36:24.280 most
00:36:25.580 people
00:36:26.100 automatically
00:36:27.920 assume
00:36:28.580 that
00:36:28.940 everything
00:36:30.020 that comes
00:36:30.580 from the
00:36:30.940 West
00:36:31.180 is better
00:36:31.740 than things
00:36:32.780 that come
00:36:33.160 from the
00:36:33.560 East
00:36:33.820 and
00:36:34.120 yeah that's
00:36:34.900 that
00:36:35.180 urban
00:36:37.620 people do
00:36:38.240 not question
00:36:38.960 politics
00:36:41.360 if
00:36:42.520 if you
00:36:43.500 know
00:36:43.760 Westerners
00:36:44.540 say that
00:36:45.020 these things
00:36:45.700 are progressive
00:36:46.320 and you
00:36:46.960 should be
00:36:47.280 progressive
00:36:47.740 it's cool
00:36:48.540 so yeah
00:36:49.420 they follow
00:36:50.080 that
00:36:50.440 and
00:36:51.260 people
00:36:53.200 from
00:36:53.940 from the
00:36:55.180 province
00:36:55.700 are still
00:36:58.180 very much
00:36:58.960 nationalist
00:37:01.240 and it
00:37:03.420 it reflects
00:37:04.040 in our
00:37:04.620 election
00:37:06.800 parliamentary
00:37:07.440 parliamentary
00:37:08.500 election
00:37:09.120 that
00:37:09.940 happened
00:37:10.920 recently
00:37:11.680 a relatively
00:37:14.120 new political
00:37:14.780 force
00:37:15.220 won the
00:37:15.680 election
00:37:15.980 by a
00:37:16.320 landslide
00:37:16.820 peasant
00:37:19.300 greens
00:37:19.960 as they
00:37:21.100 are called
00:37:21.620 they are
00:37:22.280 these mild
00:37:23.500 right-wing
00:37:24.140 populists
00:37:25.020 their ideology
00:37:27.160 is based
00:37:28.360 on
00:37:28.720 you know
00:37:29.960 I'd say
00:37:32.540 Christian values
00:37:33.420 but they
00:37:33.900 are
00:37:34.180 not
00:37:36.900 not that
00:37:38.020 much
00:37:38.360 enforced
00:37:38.900 they
00:37:40.240 they are
00:37:40.640 just a
00:37:41.080 better
00:37:41.260 version
00:37:41.600 of
00:37:41.900 the
00:37:42.280 conservatives
00:37:42.800 themselves
00:37:43.480 because
00:37:43.920 conservatives
00:37:44.440 are
00:37:46.320 timid
00:37:46.740 timid
00:37:48.380 bourgeois
00:37:48.700 Christians
00:37:49.180 then
00:37:49.480 yeah
00:37:51.360 kind of
00:37:51.980 yeah
00:37:52.220 so
00:37:52.600 so yeah
00:37:53.240 they won
00:37:53.920 the elections
00:37:54.480 and the
00:37:55.300 urban people
00:37:55.980 are furious
00:37:56.740 about this
00:37:57.420 because urban
00:37:58.140 people
00:37:58.640 voted
00:37:59.820 either
00:38:01.060 conservative
00:38:01.660 or liberal
00:38:02.420 and you know
00:38:03.620 they lost
00:38:04.400 so they
00:38:05.480 are all
00:38:05.860 crying about
00:38:06.720 Lithuania
00:38:07.680 returning to
00:38:08.780 the stone
00:38:09.180 age
00:38:09.500 because the
00:38:10.980 the peasant
00:38:11.980 greens
00:38:12.440 are talking
00:38:13.380 about
00:38:13.840 you know
00:38:15.320 how they
00:38:15.720 disliked
00:38:16.240 abortion
00:38:16.660 and
00:38:17.760 trying to
00:38:19.900 raise
00:38:20.660 alcohol prices
00:38:21.740 to fight
00:38:22.320 alcoholism
00:38:23.100 it's funny
00:38:23.700 yeah
00:38:24.280 so the
00:38:25.000 liberals
00:38:25.240 are mad
00:38:26.040 it's funny
00:38:27.700 whenever you
00:38:28.440 see someone
00:38:29.260 actually
00:38:29.640 finally taking
00:38:30.560 the boot
00:38:30.980 and stamping
00:38:31.860 on the throat
00:38:32.720 of liberal
00:38:33.840 decadence
00:38:34.380 you always
00:38:35.640 hear them
00:38:36.100 screaming
00:38:36.740 and pissing
00:38:37.640 and moaning
00:38:38.300 about
00:38:38.880 are you gonna
00:38:39.640 send us
00:38:40.120 back to
00:38:40.640 the stone
00:38:41.360 age
00:38:41.820 it's fucking
00:38:44.120 laughable
00:38:44.860 it's pathetic
00:38:45.780 and it's
00:38:47.400 always like
00:38:48.140 this
00:38:48.300 this constant
00:38:49.220 bitching and
00:38:50.260 moaning from
00:38:50.640 the left
00:38:50.940 because they
00:38:51.380 are essentially
00:38:51.860 the cultural
00:38:52.600 war on
00:38:53.460 behalf of
00:38:53.920 the left
00:38:54.340 has now
00:38:54.920 officially
00:38:55.480 they've
00:38:55.840 lost
00:38:56.280 right
00:38:57.060 they decided
00:38:58.140 to
00:38:58.600 to go ahead
00:38:59.760 and alienate
00:39:00.700 people
00:39:01.100 right
00:39:01.380 now I'm
00:39:02.920 just talking
00:39:03.420 about the
00:39:03.700 entirety of
00:39:04.220 the establishment
00:39:04.700 I'm not
00:39:05.020 really sure
00:39:05.540 how bad
00:39:06.080 it is
00:39:06.360 in your
00:39:06.620 fatherlands
00:39:07.260 here
00:39:07.580 but the
00:39:09.520 whole aspect
00:39:10.460 of them
00:39:11.440 constantly
00:39:12.180 pampering
00:39:13.160 to the
00:39:13.960 individuality
00:39:15.360 the petty
00:39:17.100 individuality
00:39:18.600 of
00:39:19.180 rectal
00:39:20.080 warriors
00:39:20.760 it's just
00:39:22.800 kind of
00:39:23.180 alienated
00:39:23.700 people
00:39:24.040 and people
00:39:24.740 are not
00:39:25.980 willing
00:39:26.580 and I say
00:39:27.320 again
00:39:27.500 not willing
00:39:28.460 to play
00:39:28.920 patty cakes
00:39:29.640 with the
00:39:30.440 notions
00:39:31.200 of
00:39:31.560 complete
00:39:32.080 spiritual
00:39:32.780 decadence
00:39:33.480 which is
00:39:34.560 now left
00:39:35.160 the left
00:39:36.280 wing
00:39:36.640 in the
00:39:37.020 cultural
00:39:37.420 sense
00:39:37.900 you know
00:39:38.600 whipped
00:39:39.660 they are
00:39:40.620 left with
00:39:41.360 erectile
00:39:41.900 dysfunction
00:39:42.340 they are
00:39:42.840 impotent
00:39:43.500 now
00:39:43.840 and they
00:39:44.640 will stay
00:39:45.140 like that
00:39:45.480 because people
00:39:45.940 have seen
00:39:46.280 through it
00:39:46.700 and it
00:39:46.940 has been
00:39:47.240 addressed
00:39:47.720 people
00:39:48.360 constantly
00:39:48.960 refer to
00:39:50.000 feminists
00:39:50.580 for an
00:39:50.900 example
00:39:51.220 as
00:39:51.520 nothing
00:39:52.120 more
00:39:52.480 as
00:39:52.860 petty
00:39:53.680 crybabies
00:39:55.280 that's
00:39:55.660 the
00:39:55.820 culture
00:39:56.140 we live
00:39:56.480 in
00:39:56.620 and I'm
00:39:57.400 pretty sure
00:39:57.800 that
00:39:58.040 Lithuania
00:39:58.800 is less
00:40:01.080 culturally
00:40:02.620 passed
00:40:03.160 than
00:40:03.460 most of
00:40:04.240 Scandinavia
00:40:04.780 but
00:40:05.340 you know
00:40:05.940 it's just
00:40:06.400 interesting
00:40:06.940 how has
00:40:07.600 this actually
00:40:08.000 played out
00:40:08.500 in Lithuania
00:40:09.540 this is my
00:40:10.920 question
00:40:11.280 what's the
00:40:12.140 level of
00:40:12.720 cultural
00:40:13.280 Marxism
00:40:13.740 and cultural
00:40:14.260 degeneration
00:40:14.780 that you
00:40:15.380 know
00:40:15.540 we see in
00:40:16.560 Lithuania
00:40:16.940 you mentioned
00:40:17.500 that abortion
00:40:18.040 is legal
00:40:18.520 but how
00:40:18.880 about things
00:40:19.280 like
00:40:19.640 fag marriage
00:40:20.740 and other
00:40:21.120 big
00:40:21.520 you know
00:40:22.040 faggot
00:40:22.760 right movements
00:40:23.380 in the cities
00:40:24.320 and stuff
00:40:24.680 like this
00:40:25.200 yeah
00:40:26.600 thank you
00:40:27.080 for the
00:40:27.460 question
00:40:27.820 yeah
00:40:28.200 I was
00:40:28.580 going to
00:40:28.920 mention
00:40:29.140 it
00:40:29.320 myself
00:40:29.720 it's
00:40:33.420 it's
00:40:33.620 very funny
00:40:34.220 this
00:40:34.700 this thing
00:40:35.340 with
00:40:35.640 LGBT
00:40:36.380 movement
00:40:36.900 because
00:40:37.740 here
00:40:38.240 apparently
00:40:39.120 the
00:40:39.560 you know
00:40:39.920 the
00:40:40.160 chosen
00:40:40.640 people
00:40:41.040 are not
00:40:41.460 even
00:40:41.660 trying
00:40:41.960 to hide
00:40:42.380 anything
00:40:42.760 we have
00:40:43.840 embassy
00:40:44.920 of Israel
00:40:45.700 financing
00:40:46.760 the movement
00:40:47.480 openly
00:40:48.080 and
00:40:48.840 really
00:40:50.580 I mean
00:40:52.460 yeah
00:40:52.780 they do
00:40:54.220 not hide
00:40:54.580 it at
00:40:54.800 all
00:40:55.000 I mean
00:40:55.360 all
00:40:55.640 newspapers
00:40:56.080 cover it
00:40:56.880 that you
00:40:57.520 know
00:40:57.700 the LGBT
00:40:58.380 march
00:40:58.900 in Vilnius
00:40:59.640 Baltic
00:41:01.180 Pride
00:41:01.480 was
00:41:02.180 financed
00:41:02.760 by
00:41:03.020 embassies
00:41:03.540 of
00:41:03.840 United
00:41:04.540 States
00:41:04.980 of
00:41:05.180 America
00:41:05.580 Israel
00:41:06.160 Germany
00:41:07.200 and
00:41:07.780 Netherlands
00:41:08.880 you have
00:41:09.880 you have
00:41:09.900 all these
00:41:10.720 embassies
00:41:11.240 of foreign
00:41:11.720 countries
00:41:12.240 that you
00:41:13.040 know
00:41:13.240 basically
00:41:13.800 finance
00:41:14.700 the leftist
00:41:15.800 movements
00:41:16.260 and they
00:41:17.460 are not
00:41:17.800 hiding it
00:41:18.440 and I
00:41:19.000 think
00:41:19.280 this is
00:41:21.000 the reason
00:41:21.460 why they
00:41:22.020 lost the
00:41:22.520 election
00:41:22.820 and why
00:41:23.720 from now on
00:41:24.620 they will keep
00:41:25.360 losing more
00:41:26.220 and more
00:41:26.560 because they
00:41:27.340 started
00:41:28.140 importing
00:41:29.280 this
00:41:30.060 Trotskyist
00:41:31.680 leftism
00:41:32.340 from the
00:41:32.760 West
00:41:32.980 this Tumblr
00:41:33.820 tear
00:41:34.240 feminism
00:41:35.100 and gay
00:41:35.720 rights
00:41:36.140 too soon
00:41:37.260 because they
00:41:37.960 do not have
00:41:38.540 the base
00:41:39.100 support
00:41:39.600 for
00:41:40.120 socialist
00:41:41.940 ideas
00:41:42.560 here
00:41:42.880 so they
00:41:43.560 have no
00:41:44.000 support
00:41:44.480 for
00:41:45.140 socialism
00:41:45.940 as
00:41:46.420 you know
00:41:47.420 as the
00:41:48.100 trademark
00:41:48.860 workers
00:41:50.140 movement
00:41:50.700 yeah
00:41:51.140 and
00:41:51.620 they do
00:41:52.440 not have
00:41:52.740 that support
00:41:53.360 and they
00:41:53.740 started
00:41:54.100 going into
00:41:55.620 the
00:41:55.980 Tumblr
00:41:56.540 tear
00:41:56.780 things
00:41:57.240 so
00:41:57.640 it's
00:41:58.760 their
00:41:59.920 suicide
00:42:00.640 I mean
00:42:01.140 I don't
00:42:01.960 get
00:42:02.220 what are
00:42:03.360 they
00:42:03.560 thinking
00:42:03.960 doing
00:42:04.720 this
00:42:05.060 you know
00:42:06.020 there's
00:42:07.780 no hope
00:42:08.180 for them
00:42:08.640 they have
00:42:09.440 no support
00:42:10.140 Lithuanians
00:42:11.000 now will
00:42:11.500 either
00:42:11.840 vote
00:42:12.560 this
00:42:13.600 mild
00:42:14.500 right wing
00:42:15.180 populist
00:42:16.120 party
00:42:16.900 or some
00:42:18.040 other
00:42:18.500 well
00:42:20.000 more liberal
00:42:20.760 party
00:42:21.200 but there's
00:42:21.680 no
00:42:21.880 there's
00:42:22.260 no way
00:42:22.560 they will
00:42:22.980 vote
00:42:23.340 any
00:42:24.860 sort of
00:42:25.460 leftists
00:42:26.060 into power
00:42:26.760 then again
00:42:28.560 all the
00:42:28.940 liberal
00:42:29.160 parties
00:42:29.680 are still
00:42:30.300 very much
00:42:30.920 very weak
00:42:33.940 in
00:42:34.740 european
00:42:35.840 politics
00:42:36.340 and
00:42:36.760 they are
00:42:38.140 easy
00:42:38.580 for
00:42:39.480 brussels
00:42:40.180 to
00:42:40.680 manipulate
00:42:41.320 them
00:42:41.820 so
00:42:42.440 you know
00:42:42.920 our
00:42:43.600 politicians
00:42:44.080 no matter
00:42:44.760 the party
00:42:45.400 they all
00:42:46.320 bend
00:42:47.220 the knee
00:42:48.520 to
00:42:49.380 european
00:42:51.040 union
00:42:52.120 politics
00:42:53.120 and they
00:42:53.680 will all
00:42:54.340 accept
00:42:54.780 all the
00:42:55.560 orders
00:42:56.440 from brussels
00:42:57.100 so yeah
00:42:57.580 that's sad
00:42:58.180 but the
00:42:59.260 people
00:42:59.580 themselves
00:42:59.980 are starting
00:43:00.660 to realize
00:43:01.540 how
00:43:02.080 you know
00:43:03.400 this
00:43:03.660 trotskyism
00:43:04.440 is
00:43:05.440 how it's
00:43:07.260 cancerous
00:43:07.880 and
00:43:08.180 what we
00:43:11.060 need now
00:43:11.520 is a
00:43:12.620 political
00:43:13.720 force
00:43:14.320 that would
00:43:14.800 put
00:43:15.100 the
00:43:15.700 thoughts
00:43:17.660 of the
00:43:18.100 people
00:43:18.440 into
00:43:19.440 political
00:43:19.900 action
00:43:20.320 because
00:43:20.800 we have
00:43:21.440 a growing
00:43:23.000 mass of
00:43:23.480 lithuanians
00:43:24.200 that want
00:43:24.820 to resist
00:43:25.320 this
00:43:25.860 western
00:43:26.680 trotskyism
00:43:27.440 coming here
00:43:28.480 but there's
00:43:29.260 no political
00:43:29.720 platform
00:43:30.200 for them
00:43:30.780 to rely
00:43:32.080 on to
00:43:32.580 do that
00:43:33.020 because
00:43:33.580 all political
00:43:34.320 parties
00:43:34.720 are liberal
00:43:35.420 yeah
00:43:37.440 now
00:43:37.820 here it
00:43:39.460 comes
00:43:39.920 can I
00:43:40.800 I'm gonna
00:43:41.460 come with
00:43:41.860 a quick
00:43:42.360 little
00:43:42.640 remark
00:43:43.160 that
00:43:44.020 there's
00:43:44.340 really one
00:43:45.040 thing
00:43:45.360 that you
00:43:45.660 have to
00:43:45.900 be careful
00:43:46.380 of
00:43:46.680 because
00:43:47.160 homosexuality
00:43:49.020 pro
00:43:49.880 sodomy
00:43:50.780 is inherently
00:43:52.280 a part
00:43:53.560 of left
00:43:54.360 wing
00:43:54.680 dogma
00:43:55.440 homosexuality
00:43:57.180 is essentially
00:43:58.540 the antiphysis
00:44:00.140 and the
00:44:00.900 very notion
00:44:02.040 against the
00:44:02.920 idea
00:44:03.360 of
00:44:04.060 nation
00:44:04.800 when that
00:44:06.900 is being
00:44:07.280 mentioned
00:44:07.700 any
00:44:08.380 party
00:44:09.120 any
00:44:09.960 political
00:44:10.400 platform
00:44:10.980 that you
00:44:11.260 might have
00:44:11.720 that is
00:44:12.160 not
00:44:12.640 addressing
00:44:13.300 and
00:44:14.120 distancing
00:44:14.820 themselves
00:44:15.620 from
00:44:16.440 sodomites
00:44:17.340 retal
00:44:18.460 warriors
00:44:19.200 spreaders
00:44:20.300 of
00:44:20.620 disease
00:44:21.180 and
00:44:21.660 venom
00:44:22.160 any
00:44:23.540 party
00:44:23.960 that is
00:44:24.280 not
00:44:24.540 willing
00:44:25.020 to
00:44:25.580 actually
00:44:25.900 inherently
00:44:26.500 call out
00:44:27.560 this
00:44:27.780 dysfunction
00:44:28.380 and
00:44:29.180 reject it
00:44:29.960 with
00:44:30.340 such
00:44:30.820 fierce
00:44:31.540 ferocity
00:44:32.440 and
00:44:32.940 force
00:44:33.520 they are
00:44:34.460 indirectly
00:44:35.820 without them
00:44:36.540 knowing or not
00:44:37.360 they are
00:44:38.100 indirectly
00:44:38.880 helping with
00:44:39.780 the
00:44:39.920 undermination
00:44:40.660 of the
00:44:41.760 fatherland
00:44:42.340 and therefore
00:44:43.220 they are
00:44:43.720 not to be
00:44:44.560 trusted by
00:44:45.100 any means
00:44:46.060 and I say
00:44:46.520 again
00:44:46.820 any means
00:44:47.820 whatsoever
00:44:48.600 with that
00:44:50.480 out of
00:44:50.780 the way
00:44:51.120 I want
00:44:52.060 you
00:44:52.340 comrades
00:44:53.600 from
00:44:54.000 Lithuania
00:44:55.420 to really
00:44:56.140 take this
00:44:56.520 into
00:44:56.720 consideration
00:44:57.220 and once
00:44:58.180 again
00:44:58.420 realize
00:44:59.220 and point
00:45:00.060 a finger
00:45:00.540 at the
00:45:00.900 parliamentarian
00:45:01.640 weaklings
00:45:02.400 for not
00:45:03.660 having the
00:45:04.120 will
00:45:04.460 no wits
00:45:05.440 to actually
00:45:06.100 deal with
00:45:06.860 the
00:45:07.140 inherent
00:45:08.300 cultural
00:45:08.960 Marxism
00:45:09.680 that is
00:45:10.020 running away
00:45:11.040 at our
00:45:11.660 fatherland's
00:45:12.360 integrity
00:45:12.860 yes
00:45:14.960 exactly
00:45:15.560 yeah
00:45:16.460 and
00:45:17.040 it's already
00:45:18.420 happening
00:45:19.000 that's why
00:45:19.920 the
00:45:20.240 conservatives
00:45:21.120 lost
00:45:21.680 because
00:45:22.160 a week
00:45:23.840 before the
00:45:25.040 election
00:45:25.360 their leader
00:45:25.880 said that
00:45:26.560 he would
00:45:27.300 consider
00:45:27.840 legalizing
00:45:29.020 same-sex
00:45:29.580 marriage
00:45:30.000 and you
00:45:30.980 know
00:45:31.200 the
00:45:31.500 populist
00:45:32.460 party
00:45:32.900 was
00:45:33.220 against
00:45:34.420 it
00:45:34.960 and you
00:45:35.760 know
00:45:36.280 they
00:45:37.280 shot
00:45:37.800 themselves
00:45:38.220 in the
00:45:38.540 foot
00:45:38.760 and
00:45:39.620 of course
00:45:41.080 we agree
00:45:41.560 even though
00:45:42.240 we're not
00:45:42.920 Christian
00:45:43.300 here
00:45:43.560 in Lithuania
00:45:45.700 but
00:45:46.560 yeah
00:45:48.180 but
00:45:49.180 we
00:45:50.100 wholeheartedly
00:45:51.220 agree
00:45:53.240 with these
00:45:54.240 moral values
00:45:55.820 you have
00:45:56.280 of course
00:45:56.920 there's no
00:45:57.460 discussion
00:45:58.080 about it
00:45:59.800 yes
00:46:00.260 perhaps
00:46:00.620 we'll get
00:46:00.960 to the
00:46:01.280 religious
00:46:01.980 issue
00:46:02.400 later
00:46:02.720 but
00:46:03.260 so
00:46:04.640 has
00:46:05.080 Lithuania
00:46:05.580 been
00:46:05.880 seriously
00:46:06.320 infected
00:46:06.900 is perhaps
00:46:08.360 the best
00:46:08.980 word
00:46:09.280 by the
00:46:10.240 migrant
00:46:12.080 invasion
00:46:12.600 like
00:46:13.380 there
00:46:13.680 are
00:46:13.780 a lot
00:46:13.940 of
00:46:14.040 brown
00:46:14.220 people
00:46:14.460 flooding
00:46:14.740 in
00:46:14.920 or
00:46:15.060 has
00:46:15.200 it
00:46:15.260 been
00:46:15.380 mostly
00:46:15.620 insulated
00:46:16.100 the
00:46:19.340 European
00:46:19.740 Union
00:46:20.300 made
00:46:22.500 us
00:46:22.880 taken
00:46:24.000 approximately
00:46:24.940 a thousand
00:46:26.340 refugees
00:46:27.180 not
00:46:28.700 yet
00:46:29.220 all of
00:46:29.860 them
00:46:30.120 arrived
00:46:30.760 I think
00:46:31.740 only a
00:46:32.460 small
00:46:32.720 fraction
00:46:33.100 of the
00:46:33.400 number
00:46:33.600 arrived
00:46:34.100 but
00:46:34.720 what
00:46:35.040 happens
00:46:35.680 is
00:46:36.300 that
00:46:36.640 they
00:46:37.420 go to
00:46:38.220 a refugee
00:46:38.820 center
00:46:39.260 we only
00:46:39.880 have one
00:46:40.440 refugee
00:46:40.800 center
00:46:41.160 in the
00:46:41.480 country
00:46:41.840 it's
00:46:42.980 in the
00:46:44.720 countryside
00:46:45.200 it's
00:46:45.740 it's
00:46:45.920 basically
00:46:46.320 a town
00:46:48.240 on itself
00:46:49.380 a village
00:46:51.220 for the
00:46:51.880 refugees
00:46:52.280 and
00:46:53.160 it's
00:46:54.420 it's
00:46:54.940 quite
00:46:55.260 it's
00:46:55.820 quite
00:46:56.220 horrible
00:46:56.820 not what
00:46:57.560 you would
00:46:58.000 have in
00:46:58.460 the west
00:46:58.920 it's
00:46:59.680 under
00:47:00.060 financed
00:47:00.760 they do
00:47:02.240 not have
00:47:02.700 all the
00:47:03.080 privileges
00:47:03.560 the refugees
00:47:04.880 have in
00:47:05.400 the west
00:47:05.780 and what
00:47:06.400 happens is
00:47:07.060 the refugees
00:47:08.140 that come
00:47:08.600 here
00:47:08.900 they
00:47:09.780 stay
00:47:10.600 the
00:47:11.740 obligatory
00:47:12.340 amount
00:47:12.660 of time
00:47:13.200 in the
00:47:13.760 refugee
00:47:14.000 center
00:47:14.420 and then
00:47:15.080 they go
00:47:15.380 west
00:47:15.780 to Sweden
00:47:16.740 and Germany
00:47:17.500 so this
00:47:19.380 refugee crisis
00:47:20.440 does not
00:47:21.920 affect us
00:47:22.460 really
00:47:22.820 only
00:47:24.740 in the
00:47:26.820 symbolic sense
00:47:27.540 that our
00:47:27.900 politicians
00:47:28.380 are very
00:47:29.520 weak
00:47:29.880 and they
00:47:30.760 agree
00:47:31.740 to bend
00:47:32.660 the knee
00:47:32.980 to the
00:47:33.720 European
00:47:34.320 Union
00:47:34.660 politics
00:47:35.360 to the
00:47:36.340 Trotskyist
00:47:36.980 orders
00:47:37.440 of taking
00:47:38.360 them
00:47:38.580 in
00:47:38.840 yeah
00:47:39.260 yeah
00:47:40.080 well that's
00:47:40.620 good to hear
00:47:41.020 that the
00:47:41.360 country has
00:47:41.800 not been
00:47:42.860 seriously
00:47:43.220 demographically
00:47:43.920 shifted
00:47:44.300 by
00:47:44.660 please go
00:47:47.860 ahead
00:47:48.060 yeah I got
00:47:49.320 a quick
00:47:49.640 question
00:47:50.060 how urban
00:47:51.120 is Lithuania
00:47:51.800 because in
00:47:52.780 Sweden
00:47:53.100 we have
00:47:54.640 85% of
00:47:55.800 our population
00:47:56.340 are urbanites
00:47:57.540 85%
00:47:58.820 so I wonder
00:48:01.480 maybe
00:48:02.220 maybe there's a
00:48:02.740 connection here
00:48:03.400 between you know
00:48:04.120 urbanites and
00:48:05.160 this fanatic
00:48:05.900 liberalism
00:48:07.240 so how much
00:48:08.840 is this
00:48:09.100 Lithuania
00:48:09.500 I do not
00:48:10.760 remember the
00:48:11.400 numbers but
00:48:12.120 Lithuania is
00:48:13.500 quite urbanized
00:48:14.420 you know
00:48:14.860 all of the
00:48:16.440 Soviet
00:48:17.200 occupied space
00:48:18.980 had forced
00:48:19.940 urbanization
00:48:20.520 programs
00:48:21.120 as you may
00:48:21.960 know
00:48:22.220 so
00:48:23.200 I don't
00:48:25.540 know
00:48:25.740 I would say
00:48:27.840 it's not so
00:48:28.860 much to do
00:48:29.340 with
00:48:29.620 urbanization
00:48:31.420 oh yeah
00:48:32.340 Kazimera is
00:48:34.520 here
00:48:34.720 googled it
00:48:35.640 and 66%
00:48:36.880 of the
00:48:38.100 population
00:48:38.540 live in
00:48:39.180 cities
00:48:39.540 so that's
00:48:40.880 less than
00:48:41.600 yeah that's
00:48:43.160 still a large
00:48:43.580 difference
00:48:44.080 I mean but
00:48:44.860 you know we
00:48:45.360 still have the
00:48:46.360 Israeli ambassador
00:48:47.420 going on
00:48:48.120 pride race and
00:48:48.820 that stuff
00:48:49.280 but
00:48:49.580 yeah
00:48:50.340 yeah but
00:48:51.600 I don't
00:48:52.300 think
00:48:52.520 that's
00:48:53.180 that's an
00:48:55.680 important
00:48:56.020 factor
00:48:56.540 because
00:48:57.180 the cities
00:48:59.420 that vote
00:49:00.960 for liberals
00:49:01.580 have a
00:49:03.300 history
00:49:03.760 of being
00:49:04.640 multicultural
00:49:06.440 cities
00:49:07.060 like Vilnius
00:49:07.740 you know
00:49:08.020 the capital
00:49:08.780 in
00:49:12.260 in medieval
00:49:14.900 times and
00:49:15.780 times before
00:49:17.240 that it
00:49:17.720 was a
00:49:18.500 Lithuanian
00:49:19.100 heartland
00:49:20.240 inhabited by
00:49:21.240 ethnic
00:49:21.580 Lithuanians
00:49:22.180 but because
00:49:23.320 of
00:49:23.760 racification
00:49:25.080 and
00:49:25.560 colonization
00:49:26.080 policies by
00:49:27.040 Poles and
00:49:27.920 Russians
00:49:28.320 Lithuanians
00:49:30.160 were
00:49:30.880 assimilated
00:49:31.520 either
00:49:32.120 assimilated
00:49:32.600 or migrated
00:49:33.680 out of the
00:49:34.280 region
00:49:34.520 and the
00:49:35.800 region was
00:49:36.580 left heavily
00:49:37.520 Slavic
00:49:38.060 Lithuanians
00:49:39.560 comprised
00:49:40.560 at some
00:49:43.080 point in
00:49:43.660 19th century
00:49:44.920 according to
00:49:47.300 some Polish
00:49:48.160 statistics
00:49:48.820 a definition
00:49:49.660 question here
00:49:50.600 quickly I'm
00:49:51.220 sorry to
00:49:51.600 interrupt
00:49:52.000 now I
00:49:53.380 guess that in
00:49:54.160 terms of our
00:49:54.740 American listeners
00:49:55.700 and I'm not
00:49:56.400 sure if you
00:49:56.900 explained this
00:49:57.640 earlier but
00:49:58.480 in terms of
00:49:59.380 the ethnic
00:49:59.880 differences
00:50:00.500 how does
00:50:01.760 the Lithuanian
00:50:02.680 populace
00:50:03.300 view themselves
00:50:03.880 as
00:50:04.860 Finno-Hungarians
00:50:07.160 or Slavs
00:50:08.060 I don't
00:50:11.840 know the
00:50:12.160 differences
00:50:12.740 are huge
00:50:13.400 we are
00:50:14.420 Finno-Baltic
00:50:16.240 people
00:50:16.760 oh Baltic
00:50:18.640 okay okay
00:50:19.160 I'm not
00:50:21.560 sure about
00:50:22.020 these identities
00:50:23.000 in the sense
00:50:25.680 that well
00:50:26.560 I'm talking
00:50:28.900 racially
00:50:29.320 yeah I
00:50:30.320 I do not
00:50:30.760 know how
00:50:31.440 to put it
00:50:32.860 properly
00:50:33.300 so the
00:50:34.540 listeners would
00:50:35.060 understand
00:50:35.660 I guess I
00:50:36.680 should I
00:50:37.220 should be
00:50:37.520 talking about
00:50:38.060 phenotypes
00:50:38.660 right and
00:50:39.420 so
00:50:41.120 yeah so
00:50:43.880 Lithuanians
00:50:45.820 are
00:50:46.520 together with
00:50:49.040 Latvians
00:50:50.220 Estonians and
00:50:50.940 Finns in
00:50:51.660 terms of
00:50:52.120 their
00:50:52.420 yeah most
00:50:55.240 most common
00:50:56.560 appearance
00:50:57.160 so Baltic
00:50:58.240 perhaps would
00:50:58.820 be the best
00:50:59.240 way to
00:50:59.480 describe it
00:50:59.980 yeah the
00:51:01.060 four nations
00:51:01.680 yeah we
00:51:02.460 we basically
00:51:03.180 share blood
00:51:03.880 the four
00:51:05.560 Baltic nations
00:51:06.380 yeah and
00:51:07.300 the the
00:51:08.220 differences
00:51:08.680 between us
00:51:09.620 and Slavs
00:51:10.680 is is quite
00:51:11.760 remarkable
00:51:12.400 in in in
00:51:14.520 both genetics
00:51:15.300 and culture
00:51:15.920 okay so
00:51:17.680 very you know
00:51:18.880 racially
00:51:19.320 ethnically
00:51:19.800 distinct from
00:51:20.360 Slavs
00:51:21.360 culturally
00:51:21.960 distinct is
00:51:22.560 what we're
00:51:23.340 trying to
00:51:23.640 establish
00:51:24.040 that
00:51:24.320 I have
00:51:26.160 I have
00:51:26.440 actually once
00:51:27.040 met a
00:51:27.640 Estonian
00:51:28.460 girl at
00:51:29.000 a bar
00:51:29.480 and surprisingly
00:51:30.880 they look
00:51:31.740 very distinct
00:51:32.700 from you
00:51:33.440 know like
00:51:33.940 like Slavs
00:51:35.040 or Nords
00:51:36.080 or Germans
00:51:36.840 in this case
00:51:37.540 they do look
00:51:38.780 very particular
00:51:39.600 they have their
00:51:40.040 very own
00:51:40.660 unique aesthetic
00:51:41.980 if you will
00:51:42.560 like they're
00:51:43.740 to racially
00:51:44.760 classify them
00:51:45.520 is very
00:51:46.740 interesting because
00:51:47.440 they look very
00:51:48.320 foreign and
00:51:48.980 keep in mind
00:51:49.840 the Baltic
00:51:50.500 peoples are
00:51:51.240 very let's
00:51:52.640 just say
00:51:53.060 they're not
00:51:54.500 very many
00:51:55.000 of you guys
00:51:55.580 are there
00:51:56.000 there's not
00:51:56.640 that many
00:51:57.000 of you in
00:51:57.440 the world
00:51:57.840 sorry but
00:51:59.700 what are you
00:52:00.560 asking something
00:52:01.140 I didn't
00:52:03.760 it's okay
00:52:05.580 I'm just saying
00:52:06.400 that you
00:52:06.780 there's not a
00:52:07.640 lot of you guys
00:52:08.220 and you have
00:52:08.560 your own
00:52:08.900 very unique
00:52:09.580 aesthetic
00:52:10.000 that was what
00:52:10.680 I was saying
00:52:11.060 in terms of
00:52:11.520 racial aesthetics
00:52:12.340 oh yeah
00:52:13.120 yeah that
00:52:13.760 that is true
00:52:14.700 yes
00:52:15.200 most definitely
00:52:16.280 okay so
00:52:19.400 as far as
00:52:21.040 the sort
00:52:23.740 of Lithuanian
00:52:24.720 nationalism
00:52:25.680 idea goes
00:52:29.140 how does
00:52:29.740 that tie
00:52:30.180 into
00:52:30.660 relations
00:52:31.940 with the
00:52:32.520 west
00:52:32.800 and specifically
00:52:33.440 I'm referring
00:52:34.220 to NATO
00:52:34.940 like so
00:52:35.840 I understand
00:52:37.440 that your
00:52:38.320 identity is
00:52:39.000 kind of
00:52:39.500 opposed
00:52:40.400 to
00:52:41.220 to Russian
00:52:42.540 identity
00:52:43.060 because of
00:52:43.800 reasons of
00:52:44.380 history
00:52:44.660 very good
00:52:45.080 reasons
00:52:45.440 but it
00:52:46.740 seems like
00:52:47.700 a lot of
00:52:48.100 the news
00:52:48.380 we get here
00:52:48.960 in the west
00:52:49.560 is sort
00:52:50.180 of you know
00:52:51.480 NATO troops
00:52:52.800 going to
00:52:53.360 Lithuania
00:52:53.880 to you know
00:52:55.620 conduct military
00:52:57.280 exercises
00:52:57.820 obviously aimed
00:52:59.180 at antagonizing
00:52:59.900 Russia
00:53:00.280 and this
00:53:01.060 always strikes
00:53:01.600 me as a
00:53:02.160 deeply bad
00:53:03.440 idea
00:53:03.880 yeah I
00:53:06.540 completely
00:53:06.880 agree
00:53:07.240 and I
00:53:08.540 think it's
00:53:09.460 it's kind
00:53:10.700 of wrong to
00:53:11.180 say that our
00:53:11.700 identity is
00:53:12.620 is antagonized
00:53:14.380 with the
00:53:15.400 Russian identity
00:53:16.300 because I
00:53:19.040 don't think
00:53:19.640 there's any
00:53:21.360 that there
00:53:21.900 shouldn't be
00:53:22.560 at least any
00:53:23.540 chauvinism and
00:53:24.620 hatred towards
00:53:25.700 the Russian
00:53:27.020 people
00:53:27.580 however
00:53:28.340 Russian state
00:53:30.100 and their
00:53:31.640 politics have
00:53:32.560 been for a
00:53:33.900 long time
00:53:34.580 very
00:53:36.660 targeted
00:53:38.700 targeted
00:53:39.300 against us
00:53:40.140 and not
00:53:41.660 not friendly
00:53:42.240 at all
00:53:42.700 so
00:53:43.260 so there
00:53:45.260 are some
00:53:45.640 some fear
00:53:46.400 of
00:53:46.720 Russification
00:53:47.420 yeah well
00:53:50.100 it's
00:53:50.920 I don't know
00:53:51.980 how to put
00:53:52.460 it
00:53:52.680 we have a
00:53:54.420 very difficult
00:53:55.340 situation
00:53:55.920 because you
00:53:57.040 have liberals
00:53:57.880 fair mongering
00:53:59.360 every day
00:54:00.040 that if you
00:54:00.740 do not support
00:54:01.420 liberalism
00:54:02.360 and European
00:54:03.860 Union
00:54:04.360 the Russians
00:54:05.220 will invade
00:54:05.860 because it's
00:54:06.580 a deterrent
00:54:07.180 European Union
00:54:08.300 and NATO
00:54:08.820 are deterrents
00:54:10.040 that stop
00:54:10.540 Russians from
00:54:11.120 invading
00:54:11.540 and you know
00:54:12.460 we have these
00:54:13.160 events of the
00:54:14.240 past with
00:54:14.800 the Russians
00:54:15.540 so this
00:54:16.840 this argument
00:54:17.420 is
00:54:18.000 is working
00:54:19.280 with the
00:54:20.120 people
00:54:20.880 but you
00:54:22.220 know
00:54:22.360 if
00:54:22.640 if one
00:54:24.140 is like
00:54:24.580 us
00:54:24.940 and questions
00:54:25.840 the binary
00:54:26.900 system
00:54:27.500 and tries to
00:54:28.680 find a third
00:54:29.340 alternative
00:54:29.940 so you
00:54:30.860 then get
00:54:31.620 to this
00:54:32.060 problem
00:54:32.620 that
00:54:33.900 in order
00:54:36.220 to
00:54:36.640 to
00:54:38.480 for nationalism
00:54:39.700 to succeed
00:54:41.120 here
00:54:41.440 and
00:54:41.900 drive
00:54:42.980 liberalism
00:54:43.660 and Trotsky
00:54:44.220 ism out
00:54:44.720 you have
00:54:45.660 to have
00:54:46.220 western
00:54:47.020 backing
00:54:47.460 to act
00:54:49.140 as a
00:54:49.520 deterrent
00:54:50.000 against
00:54:50.560 Putin
00:54:51.160 because
00:54:51.980 without
00:54:52.260 it
00:54:52.640 the
00:54:55.900 liberal
00:54:56.240 argument
00:54:56.700 works
00:54:57.220 in
00:54:58.860 reality
00:54:59.360 it works
00:55:00.360 like
00:55:00.820 people
00:55:01.180 are
00:55:01.440 afraid
00:55:01.920 of
00:55:03.700 Putin
00:55:04.720 coming
00:55:05.240 and
00:55:08.160 the
00:55:08.640 argument
00:55:10.600 that
00:55:11.020 the
00:55:11.800 European
00:55:12.100 Union
00:55:12.600 even
00:55:13.820 with
00:55:14.120 its
00:55:14.360 Trotskyist
00:55:14.960 policies
00:55:15.420 is a
00:55:15.980 deterrent
00:55:16.520 it works
00:55:17.180 this works
00:55:17.760 with people
00:55:18.320 so in
00:55:19.480 order for
00:55:20.120 nationalism
00:55:20.560 to succeed
00:55:21.160 here
00:55:21.400 you know
00:55:21.680 it's
00:55:22.520 like
00:55:22.900 Lithuanian
00:55:23.460 grassroots
00:55:23.980 nationalism
00:55:24.500 cannot succeed
00:55:25.420 on its
00:55:26.040 own
00:55:26.300 right now
00:55:26.920 because
00:55:27.520 because of
00:55:29.680 our
00:55:32.600 position
00:55:34.160 within
00:55:34.820 European
00:55:35.380 Union
00:55:35.840 because
00:55:36.560 it's so
00:55:37.120 like
00:55:38.760 on the
00:55:39.500 border
00:55:39.880 and
00:55:40.520 you know
00:55:41.000 in
00:55:41.260 this
00:55:42.100 important
00:55:42.620 area
00:55:43.100 geopolitically
00:55:43.920 we
00:55:44.980 absolutely
00:55:45.340 need
00:55:45.840 western
00:55:46.420 backing
00:55:46.860 like
00:55:47.500 nationalist
00:55:48.260 backing
00:55:48.760 and
00:55:49.760 you know
00:55:50.100 we cannot
00:55:50.560 I've read
00:55:52.920 an article
00:55:54.240 on
00:55:54.520 countercurrents
00:55:55.320 by this
00:55:55.680 Estonian
00:55:56.180 Ruben
00:55:57.300 Kalep
00:55:57.740 which is
00:55:58.720 our
00:55:59.080 friend
00:56:00.300 in real
00:56:00.660 life
00:56:00.920 so
00:56:01.520 he's
00:56:02.980 too
00:56:03.120 optimistic
00:56:03.580 about
00:56:04.000 this
00:56:04.280 he says
00:56:04.880 eastern
00:56:05.980 European
00:56:06.340 countries
00:56:06.940 can help
00:56:08.120 western
00:56:08.680 European
00:56:09.520 countries
00:56:11.480 to become
00:56:12.140 nationalists
00:56:12.720 again
00:56:13.040 but
00:56:14.040 I don't
00:56:14.740 think
00:56:14.980 it's
00:56:15.360 quite
00:56:15.760 that
00:56:16.420 simple
00:56:16.840 and
00:56:17.280 I don't
00:56:17.940 think
00:56:18.140 it's
00:56:18.700 that
00:56:19.200 possible
00:56:19.780 because
00:56:20.420 without
00:56:20.800 western
00:56:21.240 backing
00:56:21.620 nationalists
00:56:22.600 cannot
00:56:22.920 win
00:56:23.200 here
00:56:23.500 simply
00:56:25.120 because
00:56:25.560 the
00:56:26.220 Russian
00:56:26.500 card
00:56:26.820 works
00:56:27.240 you know
00:56:27.600 they
00:56:27.840 fearmonger
00:56:28.600 the
00:56:28.780 Russian
00:56:29.000 card
00:56:29.300 so
00:56:29.540 well
00:56:29.820 people
00:56:31.100 will
00:56:31.480 not
00:56:32.060 accept
00:56:32.660 the
00:56:33.720 situation
00:56:34.340 where
00:56:35.180 a
00:56:36.160 newly
00:56:36.560 formed
00:56:37.320 nationalist
00:56:37.880 regime
00:56:38.440 has
00:56:39.200 no
00:56:39.580 foreign
00:56:40.740 backing
00:56:41.200 it
00:56:42.120 seems
00:56:42.320 a
00:56:42.480 difficult
00:56:42.740 situation
00:56:43.340 how
00:56:44.160 does
00:56:44.340 your
00:56:44.480 people
00:56:44.780 view
00:56:45.180 your
00:56:45.500 orientation
00:56:46.100 do
00:56:46.360 you
00:56:46.440 think
00:56:46.580 of
00:56:46.700 yourselves
00:56:47.040 as
00:56:47.240 western
00:56:47.680 or
00:56:48.080 northern
00:56:48.460 or eastern
00:56:50.200 the
00:56:51.960 liberals
00:56:52.340 have been
00:56:53.020 constructing
00:56:53.600 a narrative
00:56:54.620 for like
00:56:55.500 something like
00:56:56.620 20 years
00:56:57.280 now that
00:56:57.780 we are
00:56:58.160 northern
00:56:58.660 european
00:56:59.480 and they
00:57:00.760 have been
00:57:01.280 constructing
00:57:01.840 this narrative
00:57:02.700 for their
00:57:04.040 own
00:57:04.280 and which
00:57:05.280 which are
00:57:06.280 you know
00:57:07.120 trying to
00:57:08.440 import
00:57:09.640 swedish
00:57:10.340 policies
00:57:11.140 here
00:57:11.520 you know
00:57:12.380 like the
00:57:13.120 multicultural
00:57:14.040 nation
00:57:15.740 and
00:57:16.600 lgbt
00:57:17.360 rights
00:57:18.920 and so
00:57:19.400 on
00:57:19.700 so
00:57:20.480 this
00:57:21.720 is not
00:57:22.180 sorry
00:57:23.520 yeah
00:57:24.360 this is
00:57:25.820 not
00:57:26.040 a
00:57:26.860 genuine
00:57:27.260 wish
00:57:28.200 of
00:57:28.500 theirs
00:57:28.840 for
00:57:29.580 lithanians
00:57:30.180 to think
00:57:30.620 of themselves
00:57:31.120 as
00:57:31.540 northern
00:57:31.880 european
00:57:32.580 but
00:57:33.640 i'm not
00:57:35.320 even sure
00:57:35.780 myself
00:57:36.240 if i
00:57:36.740 would
00:57:37.040 consider
00:57:37.440 myself
00:57:37.940 eastern
00:57:38.600 european
00:57:39.100 or
00:57:39.460 northern
00:57:39.940 european
00:57:40.640 we are
00:57:41.500 european
00:57:42.440 just
00:57:42.720 in general
00:57:43.660 something
00:57:44.100 in
00:57:44.360 between
00:57:44.720 yeah
00:57:45.280 yeah
00:57:45.740 yeah
00:57:46.060 we are
00:57:46.460 on
00:57:46.680 the
00:57:47.180 on
00:57:48.460 the
00:57:48.620 line
00:57:48.880 where
00:57:49.120 cultures
00:57:49.600 meet
00:57:49.920 and
00:57:50.580 we
00:57:51.560 cannot
00:57:51.840 be
00:57:52.260 fully
00:57:52.820 northern
00:57:54.760 nor
00:57:55.140 fully
00:57:55.440 eastern
00:57:55.880 i guess
00:57:56.460 but
00:58:00.380 your
00:58:00.600 elites
00:58:00.980 are literally
00:58:01.440 looking at
00:58:02.020 sweden
00:58:02.560 and wanting
00:58:03.180 to import
00:58:03.680 this shit
00:58:04.120 is that
00:58:06.880 is that
00:58:07.960 correct
00:58:08.640 our
00:58:10.300 our
00:58:10.580 leaders
00:58:11.000 our
00:58:11.600 leaders
00:58:12.040 all of
00:58:13.680 the
00:58:13.820 parties
00:58:14.200 because
00:58:14.640 they
00:58:14.960 are
00:58:15.120 all
00:58:15.400 liberal
00:58:15.820 they
00:58:16.340 consider
00:58:16.820 sweden
00:58:17.420 to be
00:58:17.920 a prime
00:58:18.300 example
00:58:18.740 of how
00:58:19.340 lithania
00:58:19.960 should be
00:58:20.600 they are
00:58:21.900 evil
00:58:22.200 i mean
00:58:22.520 these people
00:58:23.220 are evil
00:58:23.580 i mean
00:58:24.140 you you
00:58:25.000 have one
00:58:25.700 you have
00:58:26.220 one of
00:58:26.620 those
00:58:26.780 asylum
00:58:27.220 centers
00:58:28.720 in the
00:58:29.060 whole
00:58:29.200 country
00:58:29.620 we have
00:58:30.900 several
00:58:31.420 in the
00:58:31.960 local
00:58:32.280 manipulacy
00:58:33.000 that's
00:58:34.160 just
00:58:34.320 the
00:58:34.460 local
00:58:34.680 manipulacy
00:58:35.260 oh
00:58:35.860 i need
00:58:36.600 to address
00:58:37.000 something
00:58:37.400 i inherently
00:58:38.560 need to
00:58:38.940 address
00:58:39.200 something
00:58:39.540 here
00:58:39.840 something
00:58:40.520 you
00:58:40.720 previously
00:58:41.240 mentioned
00:58:41.580 i've been
00:58:42.140 burning
00:58:42.400 in
00:58:42.600 with
00:58:42.740 this
00:58:43.040 it's
00:58:43.520 regarding
00:58:43.920 the
00:58:44.200 putin
00:58:44.700 card
00:58:45.040 as i
00:58:45.300 like to
00:58:45.520 call it
00:58:45.800 the putinistic
00:58:47.040 fear mongering
00:58:48.960 of the
00:58:49.820 liberal
00:58:50.080 parties
00:58:50.680 they claim
00:58:52.000 as you
00:58:52.440 mentioned
00:58:52.780 earlier
00:58:53.220 that with
00:58:54.320 these international
00:58:55.140 conventions
00:58:55.780 like nato
00:58:56.760 and the
00:58:57.220 european
00:58:57.900 union
00:58:58.440 anything
00:58:59.620 and i say
00:59:00.460 again
00:59:00.740 anything
00:59:01.460 that goes
00:59:02.460 against this
00:59:03.000 internationalist
00:59:04.080 agenda
00:59:04.540 of undermining
00:59:05.840 national
00:59:06.420 identity
00:59:07.040 they
00:59:08.220 they
00:59:08.240 claim
00:59:08.800 well
00:59:09.420 you're
00:59:09.980 doing
00:59:10.260 the
00:59:10.480 work
00:59:10.880 of
00:59:11.320 the
00:59:11.520 muscovites
00:59:12.260 you are
00:59:12.920 essentially
00:59:13.280 allowing
00:59:13.960 putinist
00:59:14.660 notions
00:59:15.120 to spread
00:59:15.720 wild
00:59:16.300 during
00:59:17.280 the time
00:59:17.780 of the
00:59:18.060 elections
00:59:18.460 where
00:59:18.900 president
00:59:19.500 elect
00:59:20.020 t
00:59:20.340 uh
00:59:20.920 well
00:59:21.320 what's
00:59:21.680 the
00:59:21.820 presidential
00:59:23.000 nominee
00:59:23.840 uh
00:59:24.680 donald trump
00:59:25.560 was about
00:59:25.960 to get
00:59:26.220 elected
00:59:26.560 several
00:59:27.400 times
00:59:27.880 i say
00:59:28.300 time
00:59:29.240 and time
00:59:29.860 again
00:59:30.300 you saw
00:59:31.040 liberals
00:59:31.500 referring to
00:59:32.140 him
00:59:32.360 as
00:59:32.600 nothing
00:59:33.000 more
00:59:33.300 but a
00:59:33.780 putinist
00:59:34.940 a putin
00:59:35.720 puppet
00:59:36.220 he was
00:59:37.440 running
00:59:37.700 the
00:59:37.880 ideas
00:59:39.120 and concepts
00:59:39.940 of putin
00:59:40.760 and whatever
00:59:41.820 any national
00:59:43.080 conservative
00:59:43.860 party
00:59:44.540 have managed
00:59:45.500 to have
00:59:45.920 success
00:59:46.660 by any
00:59:47.720 means
00:59:48.000 whatsoever
00:59:48.460 to
00:59:49.160 maintain
00:59:50.020 national
00:59:50.660 interest
00:59:51.160 and saying
00:59:51.680 no
00:59:52.180 to the
00:59:52.920 foreign
00:59:53.600 led
00:59:54.020 regime
00:59:54.980 in brussel
00:59:55.860 whatever
00:59:56.320 this has
00:59:56.900 happened
00:59:57.260 they have
00:59:58.300 time and
00:59:58.860 time
00:59:59.120 and again
01:00:00.140 and again
01:00:00.920 said
01:00:01.860 you're a
01:00:03.100 putinist
01:00:03.740 you're
01:00:04.220 in
01:00:05.360 favor
01:00:05.820 of
01:00:06.140 russification
01:00:07.620 oh
01:00:08.020 you don't
01:00:08.280 like
01:00:08.480 homosexuals
01:00:09.400 well
01:00:09.760 you must
01:00:10.320 be a
01:00:10.640 muscovite
01:00:11.300 you are
01:00:12.140 a
01:00:12.360 paid
01:00:12.960 oligarch
01:00:13.840 you hear
01:00:14.580 this time
01:00:15.000 and time
01:00:15.260 again
01:00:15.460 and this
01:00:16.200 is how
01:00:16.760 the
01:00:17.480 liberals
01:00:18.680 try and
01:00:19.280 play to
01:00:19.760 the sensibility
01:00:20.680 of the
01:00:22.000 public
01:00:22.360 populace
01:00:23.000 after the
01:00:24.040 whole
01:00:24.380 incident
01:00:24.860 in
01:00:25.380 ukraine
01:00:26.040 they use
01:00:27.320 that
01:00:27.580 as
01:00:28.060 nothing
01:00:28.600 more
01:00:28.940 but a
01:00:29.340 giant
01:00:29.860 scheme
01:00:30.520 to keep
01:00:31.300 spreading
01:00:31.720 sodomy
01:00:32.500 within our
01:00:33.180 nations
01:00:33.620 as well
01:00:34.340 as keep
01:00:34.960 spreading
01:00:35.300 these
01:00:35.720 wild
01:00:36.700 notions
01:00:37.400 of
01:00:38.080 pro-European
01:00:39.500 propaganda
01:00:40.100 so
01:00:42.940 with that
01:00:43.700 out of
01:00:43.960 the way
01:00:44.380 and
01:00:44.960 let me
01:00:45.400 also say
01:00:45.940 that
01:00:46.220 here's another
01:00:46.700 point on
01:00:47.280 that
01:00:47.500 like
01:00:47.840 as
01:00:48.200 as a
01:00:48.620 military
01:00:48.960 veteran
01:00:49.340 i can't
01:00:50.020 imagine
01:00:50.580 any
01:00:51.520 nato
01:00:51.900 power
01:00:52.400 actually
01:00:53.240 going to
01:00:53.840 bat
01:00:54.160 for the
01:00:54.980 baltic
01:00:55.220 countries
01:00:55.720 the logistics
01:00:57.080 of the
01:00:58.040 strategic
01:00:58.400 situation
01:00:58.980 are just
01:00:59.420 so terrible
01:01:00.160 no one
01:01:01.640 is going
01:01:01.980 to risk
01:01:02.500 a general
01:01:03.020 war for
01:01:03.540 that
01:01:03.740 it's just
01:01:04.180 not
01:01:04.340 going to
01:01:04.560 happen
01:01:04.860 they're
01:01:06.240 going to
01:01:06.380 throw you
01:01:06.640 under the
01:01:06.900 bus
01:01:07.160 they are
01:01:08.280 going to
01:01:08.500 throw you
01:01:08.720 under the
01:01:09.000 bus
01:01:09.180 yeah i
01:01:09.620 would expect
01:01:10.120 that
01:01:10.580 i mean
01:01:11.440 i mean
01:01:13.040 they're going to
01:01:13.340 do the same
01:01:13.760 for denmark
01:01:14.340 and norway
01:01:14.960 and finland
01:01:15.420 maybe
01:01:15.820 poland
01:01:16.360 maybe poland
01:01:17.400 would be
01:01:17.860 concerned
01:01:18.360 with us
01:01:18.980 maybe
01:01:19.640 you know
01:01:20.740 but the
01:01:21.200 western
01:01:21.700 countries
01:01:22.220 of course
01:01:22.680 they would
01:01:23.080 it wouldn't
01:01:24.080 be the first
01:01:24.600 time you
01:01:25.140 you sell
01:01:25.720 us
01:01:26.180 to russians
01:01:27.460 right
01:01:27.820 i mean
01:01:29.460 it's the
01:01:30.200 same
01:01:30.480 it's the
01:01:31.020 same
01:01:31.200 everywhere
01:01:31.540 i mean
01:01:31.840 the americans
01:01:32.380 don't give
01:01:32.680 two pots
01:01:33.180 of piss
01:01:33.600 about us
01:01:34.120 of course
01:01:34.820 we're not
01:01:35.140 to rely
01:01:35.980 on the
01:01:36.620 on a
01:01:37.540 foreign
01:01:37.860 entity
01:01:38.380 like the
01:01:38.860 united
01:01:39.200 states
01:01:39.620 of america
01:01:40.260 i mean
01:01:40.900 the only
01:01:41.120 reason
01:01:41.440 they even
01:01:41.820 involved
01:01:42.260 us
01:01:42.440 in this
01:01:42.900 entire
01:01:43.240 ordeal
01:01:43.620 was so
01:01:43.980 that we
01:01:44.400 in the
01:01:44.860 context
01:01:45.220 of the
01:01:45.500 marshal
01:01:45.860 help
01:01:46.160 after the
01:01:46.560 second
01:01:46.760 world war
01:01:47.380 that they
01:01:47.860 could
01:01:48.000 financially
01:01:48.640 undermine
01:01:49.160 us
01:01:49.440 and remove
01:01:49.860 our
01:01:50.040 national
01:01:50.440 weapon
01:01:50.820 production
01:01:51.300 and therefore
01:01:52.160 enslave
01:01:52.740 us to
01:01:53.060 american
01:01:53.520 economy
01:01:54.120 there's
01:01:55.060 the only
01:01:55.280 reason
01:01:55.700 they're
01:01:56.300 not going
01:01:56.600 to bag
01:01:56.860 us
01:01:57.020 up
01:01:57.200 their
01:01:57.400 wars
01:01:57.640 have
01:01:57.800 no
01:01:58.200 integrity
01:01:58.640 behind
01:01:59.040 them
01:01:59.260 americans
01:01:59.820 have
01:02:00.020 no
01:02:00.440 integrity
01:02:00.960 and
01:02:01.740 yeah
01:02:01.900 you're
01:02:02.080 absolutely
01:02:02.400 right
01:02:02.900 with that
01:02:05.140 prophetic
01:02:06.920 message
01:02:07.400 i think
01:02:07.940 we're getting
01:02:08.260 to the end
01:02:08.600 of our
01:02:08.780 first hour
01:02:09.300 so it's
01:02:10.160 been an
01:02:10.420 absolute
01:02:10.680 pleasure
01:02:11.120 you know
01:02:11.700 after we
01:02:12.480 come back
01:02:12.900 we're going
01:02:13.120 to discuss
01:02:13.620 more in
01:02:14.200 depth
01:02:14.380 the actual
01:02:14.920 group
01:02:15.240 of
01:02:15.420 skidas
01:02:15.720 itself
01:02:16.180 having
01:02:16.580 gotten
01:02:16.980 out of
01:02:17.840 the way
01:02:18.180 the context
01:02:19.040 of it
01:02:19.360 within
01:02:19.680 lithuania
01:02:20.240 so to
01:02:21.260 our
01:02:21.380 listeners
01:02:21.700 stay
01:02:22.660 tuned
01:02:22.940 thank
01:02:24.240 you
01:02:52.940 thank you
01:03:22.940 We'll be right back.
01:03:52.940 We'll be right back.
01:04:22.940 We'll be right back.
01:04:52.940 We'll be right back.
01:05:22.940 We'll be right back.
01:05:52.940 We'll be right back.
01:06:22.940 We'll be right back.
01:06:52.920 This alt-right-themed sort of group utilizing vaporwave aesthetics and all these things.
01:07:03.480 We'll be right back.
01:07:33.480 Yeah, we have two axis political system, so we are above that, we are the third axis, we are like fascism united with futurism, so that's what best describes us.
01:07:51.480 Yeah, neo-nazism with space rockets.
01:08:21.460 We'll be right back.
01:08:51.460 So he helped us with that, so he helped us with that a great deal, and yeah, without national action, we would probably not be here.
01:08:58.180 So I thank them.
01:09:28.180 So we took all of that, so we took all of that, I mean, we're united in the struggle internationally, and so we ought to share information as well as material as much as we are able to help one another.
01:09:46.000 Yeah, sure.
01:10:16.000 Yeah.
01:10:17.000 Yeah.
01:10:18.000 So many other movements that couldn't do anything without having foreign contact.
01:10:25.000 Truly, I mean, the international fascist fraternity, to use another buzzword, a keyword, as Nat would say.
01:10:35.960 Okay, so I'm curious about the futurism.
01:10:37.960 So certainly in the North American context, futurism is a very important concept.
01:10:45.220 And definitely we will do a mysterium episode later on about this.
01:10:50.220 But Lithuania seems to have a fairly, obviously, you know, native, well-established culture.
01:10:56.000 But do you see it as needing kind of a total reform and reprogramming?
01:11:00.860 Is this like a reaction back to its roots, or do you want to move forward to something new?
01:11:07.860 Yeah.
01:11:08.860 I think the point with this is that people understand futurism differently.
01:11:17.860 The term itself refers to an artistic movement that sprung up in Italy in early 20th century, and it has nothing to do with rockets.
01:11:32.260 It's basically an artistic movement from which fascism arose.
01:11:41.260 It's a predecessor of fascism.
01:11:43.260 So we kind of base our ideas on it, but still, you are right about the reconstruction of identity, because that is one of the key points of fascism, modernization of ethnic culture in order for it to be able to fight global pop culture.
01:12:05.960 So, of course, all identities need constant modernization in order to be relevant and to survive the globalized environment.
01:12:22.360 So this is why futurism is quite important for us.
01:12:26.820 You know, you cannot be stuck in your ethnic culture ways.
01:12:31.200 You have to seek modernization.
01:12:35.740 And, you know, this is what we do as a group, and this is on what we base our activities on, these new aesthetics.
01:12:46.100 And it's a completely new way to reach out to people, because we reach many people that have not been reached by any sort of radical political idea before.
01:13:05.140 And these aesthetics, this modern outlook, lets us do that.
01:13:11.220 This is also what separates us from all the traditionalists who have a stigma of being stuck in the Stone Age.
01:13:22.240 It's really, really interesting that you're pointing this out, and this is something that I've been thinking a lot to myself.
01:13:27.060 And this is what I like to see with, like, the neo-fascist movement, really, is the fact that we have thrown these old notions of, like, what we can only refer to as Hollywood Nazism into the garbage bin.
01:13:44.280 Now I'm referring to, like, the fact that we've finally dealt with the, you know, neo-Nazi skinhead culture, and we have reformed it into something new, like a new youth movement, if you will, of young white Aryan men.
01:14:00.960 To finally, you know, to finally, you know, redefine the intercultural aspect of our movement.
01:14:08.760 And find something that can truly unify and fascinate people besides, you know, oil skinhead music and stuff like that.
01:14:17.800 So the fact that we've, that people like you guys are finally giving the movement a fresh breath of air, if you will, that will truly entice young people into joining up and realize that, yeah, we need to kill faggots, Jews, and niggers.
01:14:37.220 In a purely metaphorical sense, of course.
01:14:40.900 Yes, we need to kill their ideological movements.
01:14:43.340 Yeah, not physically, I mean, not literally, but, you know, it's just a prank, guys. Don't worry about it.
01:14:50.680 Yeah, it's just a prank, bro.
01:14:52.440 Yeah, of course. Mysterium Fashi is, of course, never endorses direct political violence, because that would be against the law, and we don't break the law.
01:15:03.440 No, no, never.
01:15:03.920 We don't break the law, because we are not, we're not Africans. So, yeah. Nice try, FBI.
01:15:11.240 Exactly.
01:15:13.340 So, yeah, and I think that this is something very fascinating, and certainly it might be of profit to have one of you men back on when we discuss the aspect of futurism more broadly, not only as it pertains to North America, but to the world in general.
01:15:25.400 Because I think that this kind of dynamism, and this understanding that, you know, we are in a new era, and we have to hold on to the principles that work, but they're going to be applied in a new way, I think is critical.
01:15:38.420 And we, as you say, you know, we can't be the dinosaurs in front of the comet, we have to adapt without changing our principles.
01:15:49.380 Yeah, the Italians.
01:15:50.600 Yeah, the Italians had it all figured out.
01:15:55.500 They based their movement on artistic skills of people.
01:16:01.060 It was all about heart.
01:16:02.340 The original fascist party of Italy, it was all about heart.
01:16:06.620 So, they didn't even need violence that much.
01:16:11.560 I mean, the establishment just was scared shitless of their huge numbers, and they caved in.
01:16:19.500 They didn't need any kind of vulgarity.
01:16:22.780 The movement was all about the aesthetics.
01:16:25.460 That's what we need to do, and we don't really need to resort to violence or vulgarity.
01:16:35.680 I mean, art creates unity, intellectualism creates disunity.
01:16:42.240 But this is really the thing.
01:16:45.780 Like, we are the generation of a dystopian society.
01:16:50.360 Which is why I think that this whole vaporwave thing really fits in so perfectly, right?
01:16:57.500 Like, you see the trash littered streets, you see the graffiti, you see the broken down buildings and broken dreams everywhere.
01:17:06.340 Like, this 80s dystopia, like, ambience music fits perfectly with the age we live in.
01:17:15.840 And the new aesthetic of the fascist movement, of European youth, is so ground-shattering.
01:17:24.440 And its amplification of creating this new unity without, like, the traditionalist 30s uniformication is so unique.
01:17:36.940 It's so fucking unique.
01:17:40.320 Yeah, it is.
01:17:41.380 I completely agree.
01:17:42.300 One of the key, how should I put it, like, things that we try to do in real life is to encourage our guys to start creating art in some way.
01:18:02.820 We have Itotaz here, who makes all the videos.
01:18:09.280 You see all the aesthetics.
01:18:11.140 Like, he's very good at it.
01:18:12.760 By the way, by the way, put a few of the videos.
01:18:18.500 I've actually seen of their work.
01:18:19.760 It's exceptional propaganda work.
01:18:21.600 It's really cool.
01:18:22.640 Great aesthetics.
01:18:24.120 You should leave a link to some of their works on the show notes.
01:18:29.840 Yeah, sure, sure.
01:18:30.720 This base cheetah is very deep and very profound, and it really speaks to me.
01:18:38.180 Yes, the black said cheetah.
01:18:39.400 Thank you.
01:18:40.100 Yeah, that one is the best.
01:18:43.300 Yeah, so shoot us a link to any of the material you'd like to propagate, and of course, we'll let you do a shout-out at the end.
01:18:49.060 So what would you say is your goal, if you had to say, what's the purpose of SkiDAS, just to promote Lithuanian nationalism, or do you have any specific agenda that you want to implement?
01:19:05.140 Yeah, it's too early to talk about this sort of official agenda for now.
01:19:14.100 Yeah, because being a small nation, people are much more afraid, you know?
01:19:29.720 At this point in reality, if something happens, like somebody puts up racist stickers somewhere, there's nobody to blame but us for the media.
01:19:50.680 So, like, we're the lone group that does something semi-officially.
01:20:00.300 I mean, so for now, we just want more people, so we wouldn't get this kind of heat on just a few members that do artistic things, you know?
01:20:14.540 I understand. Certainly, it must be a completely different circumstance in Lithuania than it is in anywhere else.
01:20:23.940 I mean, just because of the size of the country, it's really incredible to think about.
01:20:26.980 So, you know, what are your – so you said that you don't really have an agenda and that you're focused on forming your group, and that's, you know, quite fair enough and all well and good.
01:20:40.780 But do you have any, you know, activities or demonstrations that you engage in?
01:20:44.900 You know, how large are you guys, and what are your plans for the future aside from general growth?
01:20:50.240 Yeah, we have a few marches that we are planning to engage in annually.
01:20:58.160 The first one is the February 16th march, which is to commemorate the Lithuanian independence, which happened in 1918.
01:21:14.680 The second is March 11th march, which was the one where the National Action Guides came to support us.
01:21:29.560 It celebrates a restoration of Lithuanian independence in 1991.
01:21:35.600 So, yeah, we have these two marches, and, well, the most basic of our activities are just, you know, gatherings of our lads and sharing all kinds of information.
01:21:54.320 And we have discussions, and, you know, I try to give some sort of, like, political lectures, if you can call them.
01:22:10.040 Because, yeah, I've been studying political science at university, so I guess I know a bit more than other guys.
01:22:19.680 So, yeah, I try to, we try to talk about political theory and philosophy.
01:22:28.420 I think it's crucial.
01:22:30.580 It's a political idea.
01:22:31.660 Yeah, that you base your political ideas not on domestic things, not on earnings, not on money, but on philosophical dogmas.
01:22:44.880 So, with that being said, you guys are waging a, like, this is really a thing I think a lot of things do, but you guys are kind of running a cultural war, aren't you?
01:22:58.760 You are, like, putting on some flames to the gasoline, if you will, in terms of cultural understanding, right?
01:23:06.760 You are kind of, like, trying to shatter the old dogmatic idea of, you know, leftist egalitarianism.
01:23:14.380 Isn't that kind of what you're doing with, like, your radical, you know, neo-asthetic approach?
01:23:21.700 Yeah, exactly.
01:23:22.660 You're completely right.
01:23:23.700 My idea is that Lithuanian history itself has been reconstructed by liberals so badly that all the people need reminding what actually happened.
01:23:36.200 The June uprising that I mentioned that Lithuanians indeed fought on the Axis side and not against the Axis is very important for people to learn because usually the liberals twist this idea and try to undermine the role of Lithuanians.
01:24:00.860 Because the fact that Lithuania itself had a coup d'etat and these pseudo-fascists came to power and constructed our identity.
01:24:12.820 Yeah, this is a cultural struggle, if I can say so, that we want to fight.
01:24:20.220 And it's all about intellectualism for now and teaching the kids our history and how our history should be, you know, constructed in the future.
01:24:32.500 And speaking about the global level, I should put out that our artwork, our memes, our videos, we are waging a war against the global liberal agenda.
01:24:47.380 Because in the local level, yeah, our mission is really what it is, what Jurgi said.
01:24:55.600 But on the global level, we are helping the foreign nationalists to man up and put up the pen and do the cultural warfare on their end.
01:25:09.100 So we are like doing local but thinking globally.
01:25:13.880 Yeah, yeah, that's true, what you made forth of sentiments.
01:25:22.360 That is, whatever we do on whatever minuscule scale, right?
01:25:27.680 When you, as a politically active fascist, are setting up propaganda, making a statement against the cultural decadence of the West,
01:25:39.340 whenever you're doing the most minuscule of things, like attacking the most, what normal people would think to be minuscule of institutions of the current liberal decadent regime,
01:25:52.720 the smallest of these things is a giant blow in the struggle that we are so deeply inclined in for the one true notion of total Aryan victory.
01:26:06.800 When that is clear to people, that every institution that we attack, every leftist we make shit blood because they're so blood or butthurt about our sentiments,
01:26:20.180 that in itself is a victory.
01:26:23.840 And people who see and despise weakness, which is 90% of mankind, by the way, yeah, that is something that we win over.
01:26:34.860 Because people are sick with the society we live in.
01:26:37.220 So, whenever we manage to upset leftists to such a degree, where they are publicly pissing their pants,
01:26:47.120 screaming hysterically in front of buildings because they're not getting their way, like little shit-filled children,
01:26:53.880 that in itself is a victory, a motivation on a global scale to activate our comrades across the borders,
01:27:05.740 to engage themselves in the struggle, in the one struggle for global fascism, national fascism, and total Aryan victory.
01:27:17.860 Amen. Now, the last question I'll pose before we move on to the Kali Yuga news,
01:27:24.980 is it like, so you said that you were basically, we've said it a couple of times,
01:27:28.420 you're basically the only game in town, the only group in Lithuania that is actually doing anything in a semi-public.
01:27:34.680 So, what kind of resistance from the state apparatus have you, you know, encountered?
01:27:41.520 Have they been very heavy-handed, or has it been light, or, you know?
01:27:44.940 Any good pranks? Any good pranks?
01:27:48.360 Yeah, we did a few banner drops on the bridges, and it didn't turn out for the best,
01:27:53.940 because we kind of got some police attention, some guys had their laptops confiscated,
01:28:00.680 yeah, and, I mean, the law enforcement knows us, and they tried to, like...
01:28:09.940 Yeah, so, after the May 9th, the victory day of World War II, we dropped the banner with a swastika,
01:28:18.380 and that just, we hit the shitstorm we ever had, that was like, OMG.
01:28:24.760 But on that level, that, we thought that everything would be fine,
01:28:30.060 but after some rats in other nationalistic groups, they rented us out, and that was like,
01:28:37.200 oh, you really do that?
01:28:39.280 You should fight with liberals, not to backstab your brothers in an idea of...
01:28:47.940 Yeah, we kind of had a guy that ratted us out to the cops, you know, the banner drop.
01:28:56.580 Yeah, that was not cool.
01:28:57.600 We didn't really see it coming, because it happened, like, a month after the banner drop.
01:29:01.980 We were just chilling, doing our activities as usual, and then the next day, just pow.
01:29:06.300 It just came out of nowhere.
01:29:07.720 Suggestion.
01:29:09.000 Suggestion here, comrades.
01:29:10.340 Let me just say one thing here.
01:29:11.720 Suggestion.
01:29:12.400 That's pathetic on so many levels.
01:29:14.040 What does this guy think he will even gain?
01:29:17.780 Respectability.
01:29:17.940 I mean, he wants...
01:29:19.040 He wants respectability.
01:29:20.200 Yeah, but listen, he won't be liked by nationalists,
01:29:22.980 and the sure-and-so-want-be-liked by establishment.
01:29:25.240 So he'll be in the middle, a pariah of both sides.
01:29:28.240 I mean, it's just idiotic.
01:29:29.660 Moderate.
01:29:30.060 And if everyone ever considers to do that, have that in mind.
01:29:32.960 Because this shit is disgusting.
01:29:36.040 Well, no one ever loves a traitor.
01:29:38.060 What you should do.
01:29:38.920 Yeah, exactly.
01:29:39.780 What you should do.
01:29:40.440 What you guys win there is you've identified a weakling,
01:29:44.280 and so you never associate with him again.
01:29:47.080 And that's all to the good, is when you can do these small actions
01:29:50.580 that reveal the weak among you.
01:29:55.160 This strengthens you.
01:29:56.300 This gives you strength.
01:29:57.400 Yeah.
01:29:57.620 But remember this.
01:29:58.440 I completely agree.
01:29:59.120 He's a toesucker.
01:30:00.020 Yeah, and also...
01:30:00.820 He's a toesucker.
01:30:01.400 Yeah, another thing about him.
01:30:02.980 He likes anime, so it tells you other things you need to know about.
01:30:06.160 Wow, the anime question once again.
01:30:08.380 Eternal weave.
01:30:08.800 Oh, my goodness gracious me.
01:30:10.440 The eternal weeaboo.
01:30:11.780 The thing is that he was actually never part of us,
01:30:15.960 and we never considered him to be part of us.
01:30:18.180 Yeah, but just because, like, Lithuania is so small,
01:30:21.860 and, you know, it's so easy to know people,
01:30:25.380 it's very hard to avoid these things.
01:30:28.680 It's very hard to avoid, you know, letting people that shouldn't know something, know something.
01:30:38.340 And it's just much harder than in the West, where you have much more people.
01:30:44.780 How many people are in Lithuania?
01:30:47.340 Three million.
01:30:49.700 We have five million here in Denmark.
01:30:52.160 Yeah, but you have a much larger internet community.
01:30:56.440 I mean, people like much larger circles, social circles of those people.
01:31:05.760 And in Lithuania, you don't.
01:31:07.320 You have these very small scenes of people that are interested in politics.
01:31:16.700 I guess it's another problem that people in Eastern Europe are much more apolitical than in the West.
01:31:23.980 That's debatable.
01:31:27.860 That's definitely debatable.
01:31:30.180 That's debatable.
01:31:31.100 That's all I have to say.
01:31:32.460 And sorry for interrupting you,
01:31:34.860 but the thing is that people in Lithuania are encouraged to be good citizens
01:31:40.520 and to report anything that's apparently breaking the law.
01:31:46.080 And people, they try to be as good citizens as possible,
01:31:51.140 even though there's only three million people.
01:31:52.900 They still try to rat out anybody that's breaking the law?
01:31:58.080 No, I would actually say that's Soviet culture.
01:32:01.240 Ratting out your neighbor to the regime.
01:32:06.340 That's sort of, you know.
01:32:09.180 It's a manifestation of the Kali Yuga.
01:32:12.120 And speaking of the Kali Yuga, we're going to...
01:32:14.340 Wait, wait, wait.
01:32:15.380 Before you go ahead and go forth to the wonderful Kali Yuga of the modern world,
01:32:20.940 let me just give a public service to anyone who is listening.
01:32:27.000 And this is especially in the context of the wonderful people of Skydust.
01:32:31.060 Always remember a face mask, sunglasses, hoodie.
01:32:35.540 Whatever you have, remember to mask your face and put on gloves.
01:32:40.540 We are living with a regime that wants to do us harm.
01:32:48.460 Whatever means they can perform harm upon our bodies, our family, whatever.
01:32:53.640 They are fucking scum.
01:32:55.500 Remember this.
01:32:57.420 They will not care if they attack your sisters, your little brothers,
01:33:01.800 your girlfriend, your children, your family.
01:33:05.180 Whatever means they have, they will fucking harm you.
01:33:09.660 So, have the courtesy to bring a face mask and gloves and a hoodie with you
01:33:15.240 or something that can somewhat mask you when you're going out doing political activities.
01:33:20.480 Just remember it, people.
01:33:22.140 The regime hates us and they want to see our people dead.
01:33:25.360 And anyone who dares to rise up in protest against our people getting eradicated,
01:33:31.160 they will get stigmatized and they will try and destroy your entire social circle
01:33:37.280 to alienate you and destroy your life, essentially.
01:33:41.860 So, just a public service.
01:33:43.920 Remember a face mask.
01:33:45.420 Always keep one in your left pocket.
01:33:46.920 Very good advice.
01:33:50.780 If I may say something, one last thing.
01:33:53.340 Please, Doc.
01:33:54.880 I think this discussion has been very fruitful, very good.
01:33:59.180 I'm very encouraged by everything I'm hearing.
01:34:02.380 And I just want to reinforce the importance of aesthetics and art.
01:34:11.100 All culture is expressed by its art.
01:34:15.880 And art, like morality, begins with drawing a line, if you will.
01:34:23.520 And it's important for us to remember the concept, the principle of beauty, right?
01:34:31.840 And to show everyone, the masses, the lemmings, highlight for them
01:34:39.740 the contrast between beauty, between order, between hierarchy, between everything that is tradition
01:34:49.380 and the ugliness of the modern world.
01:34:54.080 And I think it's through our art and our aesthetics that that is how we can reach people.
01:35:01.340 It's certainly one of the most effective means of propaganda.
01:35:05.740 There can be no doubt about that.
01:35:07.800 And so, to contrast with the hour and odd half of beautiful political information that we've brought to you,
01:35:15.980 we're going to delve into the Kali Yuga News section of our show.
01:35:19.960 So, it has been a substantiative week in terms of articles from the Kali Yuga.
01:35:27.960 And we've got a plethora of things to choose from, and likely we won't be able to cover them all.
01:35:33.600 But I'm just going to go ahead and just cover the first article in the stack.
01:35:37.640 This is from Russia Today.
01:35:42.440 The byline is,
01:35:43.500 Up to 1,750 jihadists back in Europe from war zones, ready for attacks.
01:35:49.660 New report, published on December 8th.
01:35:52.700 A third of the 5,000 European jihadists who traveled to fight in Syria and Iraq are now back in Europe,
01:35:58.680 with some on specific missions.
01:36:00.460 A new EU report warns.
01:36:02.060 The bloc's authorities are raising the alarm over further Islamic attacks on European soil.
01:36:08.280 EU anti-terrorist chief Gildik Kershov will present the findings of the report,
01:36:13.220 which has been already sent to the AFP to European ministers on Friday.
01:36:17.360 It is said that out of the 5,000 jihadists who joined terrorists in Iraq and Syria,
01:36:21.540 but a third are now back in Europe.
01:36:24.120 And it goes on and on, etc.
01:36:26.300 And I don't think there's really much elaboration that needs to be done.
01:36:29.500 And I mean, the byline that I've written here is, you know, who could have predicted this?
01:36:34.620 Who could have possibly predicted that this is what would occur?
01:36:41.780 Everyone with two brain cells.
01:36:43.260 Exactly.
01:36:44.520 And I remember when the invasion began, and ISIS and other, you know, Islamic groups were publishing,
01:36:53.960 you know, press releases saying, yeah, no, we're going to send our agents in with the refugee waves to attack Europe.
01:36:59.340 That's what we're going to do.
01:37:00.400 They were open about it.
01:37:01.900 Russia Today was running articles about it.
01:37:03.880 I was in Al Jazeera even.
01:37:05.160 It was, there was no clandestine, it was just completely understood.
01:37:10.880 And it was just like, you know, the fucking bold-faced lunacy, it's ludicrous.
01:37:22.040 You know, and I come back to it, and I mean, these are the people that we're fighting.
01:37:26.340 You know, there's no sense to it at all.
01:37:28.300 There's no rationality, except if you consider the fact that they want to destroy us.
01:37:33.740 They want to kill you.
01:37:35.880 They want to see your children raped and enslaved, and their offspring miscegenated, deracinated,
01:37:41.820 cultureless, consumerist wrecks.
01:37:44.840 Okay?
01:37:45.280 They want to attack and destroy everything about you and our people down to the fundamental level
01:37:51.920 that makes us human, that's beautiful about us, that's unique, that's special, that's specific.
01:37:56.380 These things that give us meaning in our life, this is the nature of deconstructionism.
01:38:01.880 And so, I mean, it's just, there's not a lot to say.
01:38:10.540 But it just serves as a reminder of, you know, once again, this is who we're fighting.
01:38:16.540 And there needs to be no doubt in the minds of our fighters, of us, about, you know, who
01:38:24.940 we are, who we're fighting, and what we need to do.
01:38:28.120 Because the only way that we're going to be able to prevent this from occurring is if we
01:38:31.780 completely dismantle our enemy's control.
01:38:35.500 Yeah.
01:38:36.080 Every island.
01:38:36.800 I saw something that was horrific regarding this shit.
01:38:40.980 Well, it's kind of related.
01:38:42.960 In Bulgaria, the migrants that come there use Bulgarian children as their catamines.
01:38:49.920 They back up assy.
01:38:51.220 They import their filth to the countries they pass.
01:38:54.400 This wasn't even the country they end up in.
01:38:56.760 This is just a country they pass through.
01:38:59.760 Just imagine how it is in Germany.
01:39:01.300 Just imagine how it is in Sweden.
01:39:02.460 Again, I think that the only reason why we don't hear this and most is because it's
01:39:06.960 covered up.
01:39:08.000 I literally think there's a huge cover up on this shit.
01:39:10.160 You see some examples coming every now and then.
01:39:12.800 But I think this is more larger than we could ever imagine.
01:39:17.060 And it's happening right now.
01:39:18.360 But you know what?
01:39:18.860 People don't care.
01:39:19.760 They like their let's dance every Friday.
01:39:22.420 They like their ships.
01:39:25.260 They like their safe work.
01:39:27.900 They don't care about this shit.
01:39:29.280 You know what?
01:39:29.660 They care about feeling good.
01:39:31.760 They want to be comfortable.
01:39:33.000 They don't care if the whole country is good.
01:39:34.940 They don't care if their people is literally being raped by immigrants.
01:39:39.020 They don't care about that shit.
01:39:39.960 No.
01:39:40.300 I mean, who cares about other people?
01:39:42.380 I'm an individual.
01:39:43.440 I'm a tabula rasa.
01:39:44.780 I have no connection with these people.
01:39:46.140 If you call this out, if you call this out, you'll feel bad.
01:39:49.040 Yeah, exactly.
01:39:49.700 Just like people call you racist.
01:39:50.580 And feeling bad is worse than actually being bad.
01:39:55.580 Yeah.
01:39:56.720 Yeah.
01:39:57.120 And in regards to the story in Bulgaria, the only way, the reason the story was broken is because all of these volunteer doctors were saying to international organizations, we're tired of stitching up people's assholes.
01:40:09.700 Yeah.
01:40:10.120 Imagine that shit.
01:40:12.000 I've heard stories of veterans from Afghanistan saying that every night they always see this one kid that's bleeding there.
01:40:20.640 And they can't do anything.
01:40:21.980 And they hear, you know, these screams.
01:40:23.700 Knights.
01:40:24.340 They can't do anything.
01:40:25.120 And you have these specialized soldiers basically telling all the soldiers that, oh, this is just a culture.
01:40:34.320 This is a culture.
01:40:35.240 La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la.
01:40:37.320 This is the shit we're going to be tolerant against.
01:40:42.380 This is the shit they want you to accept.
01:40:44.100 This is the shit we should just accept.
01:40:46.740 They want to accept this shit.
01:40:48.360 They want us to integrate with this shit.
01:40:50.360 So we go the halfway.
01:40:51.700 We go the halfway.
01:40:52.720 And, I mean, if you think about it, if you think about it, you know, liberalism's love of homosexuality kind of goes hand in hand with the multiculturalist agenda of including Islamist ideas in our world.
01:41:10.080 Yeah.
01:41:10.680 They go hand in hand.
01:41:12.740 I mean, there's no doubt about it.
01:41:14.520 Because they want the death of everything.
01:41:16.480 Socialism.
01:41:17.380 Socialism loves AIDS and racial warfare.
01:41:21.960 They love the ideas of people who fuck each other in the ass.
01:41:26.080 Especially if they're of the same gender, especially.
01:41:28.560 Yeah.
01:41:28.740 They love that.
01:41:29.680 That doesn't create offspring.
01:41:31.480 That doesn't create a strong generation of new people for the fatherland.
01:41:37.260 Islam loves butt-fucking young boys.
01:41:41.580 Yeah.
01:41:42.000 They inherently love that.
01:41:43.380 Speaking of.
01:41:43.900 Speaking of.
01:41:44.240 That is approximately 90% of Islam is about fucking young boys in the ass.
01:41:49.220 Pedophile, faggot religion.
01:41:51.060 So, if you combine pro-faggotry with, you know, the natural outcome of faggotry.
01:41:58.280 Well, then you have the perfect combination.
01:42:01.060 Islam and communism fits perfectly together.
01:42:05.080 Yeah.
01:42:05.540 And speaking of that, I want to transition to another news.
01:42:10.420 It's kind of old.
01:42:11.900 But it's still relevant.
01:42:13.700 Let's see the headline here.
01:42:15.540 I quote here.
01:42:16.520 We can't prove sex with children does them harm.
01:42:20.860 It says Labour-linked NCCL.
01:42:23.660 NCCL, that's National Council for Civil Liberties.
01:42:27.300 This is what they're saying right now.
01:42:29.500 Now, okay, let's take a quote from this article here.
01:42:34.020 Let's see here.
01:42:41.020 It regards, it's just insane.
01:42:43.960 They can't even see that this is wrong.
01:42:47.000 Now, there's actually a reason for this.
01:42:49.320 And this is the fetishization of human intellect.
01:42:52.560 They don't care about ideals.
01:42:54.220 They don't care about standards.
01:42:55.780 They don't care about morale.
01:42:56.680 They just care about their own brain.
01:42:58.580 Now, I actually read something that's very relevant about this by Vladimir Jelosky.
01:43:05.560 And he said that this insane drive for knowledge, for knowledge's sake, you know, intellectualism for intellectual's sake, is little agnosticism.
01:43:14.760 Because what are you doing?
01:43:16.060 You are placing your own intellect above your instincts.
01:43:19.840 You're placing your own intellect above everything that's true.
01:43:23.960 I mean, you know that this is wrong regardless if you can intellectually explain it.
01:43:27.600 You know, for example, that we shouldn't commit suicide.
01:43:31.100 Yet, you have existentialists who say that they can't find a reason not to suicide except blind hedonism.
01:43:36.500 So, when you reject morals, when you reject ideals, all you have is hedonism.
01:43:40.960 All you have is come, essentially.
01:43:42.540 And this is what motivates the leftists.
01:43:45.180 They are dead in the soul.
01:43:47.120 And that's why I can justify this filth.
01:43:49.700 And this is essentially agnosticism as well.
01:43:52.440 Because you're placing your own intellect above ideals.
01:43:56.820 You're placing your own intellect above God.
01:43:58.840 You're placing your own intellect above truth.
01:44:01.300 You don't care what's true.
01:44:02.200 You want to destroy truth.
01:44:03.960 Because you think that you'll liberate yourself now.
01:44:06.900 This is Gnosticism.
01:44:07.900 This is exactly Gnosticism.
01:44:09.260 Gnosticists call God evil.
01:44:12.000 They want to liberate themselves from God.
01:44:13.860 They think that there's another God that's above God.
01:44:16.560 Abraxas.
01:44:18.440 And Abraxas created a demiurge of some filth.
01:44:20.940 So, yeah, exactly.
01:44:22.720 They think they can liberate themselves from this by being evil.
01:44:25.160 Thus, you have this Halvoraknes guy.
01:44:28.500 This Abraxian, pedophile, Gnostic that thinks he finds God in this filth.
01:44:35.100 It makes perfect sense.
01:44:36.940 It makes perfect sense.
01:44:37.880 He's placing his own intellect above God.
01:44:40.560 This is literally satanic.
01:44:42.800 This is repeating what Lucifer did all over again.
01:44:45.180 So, the trick with Gnosticism is that they will tell you that matter, the world, is inherently evil.
01:44:54.000 And so that, you know, what they consider salvation is to escape the physical world.
01:45:02.840 And so how they do that is basically by starving themselves to death or by committing suicide or by engaging in non-procreative sex.
01:45:14.200 Because that's, you know, the last thing you want to do is create a new life, i.e. imprison a new spirit in the prison of matter.
01:45:24.920 And this is the same thing as blind hedonism.
01:45:28.160 I mean, they don't see a meaning in life.
01:45:30.340 So, life is meanness.
01:45:31.480 They want to liberate themselves from this life.
01:45:34.100 Exactly.
01:45:34.380 So, all they have is hedonism.
01:45:35.680 All they have is pleasure.
01:45:36.480 All they have is cum.
01:45:37.580 It makes perfect sense.
01:45:39.760 This is literally satanic.
01:45:40.880 Yeah, and if you look historically at the way that Gnosticism manifested itself in terms of, I mean, Catharism is a great example.
01:45:51.760 I mean, the Cathars promoted butt sex for, yeah, just this reason.
01:45:55.640 Because in sodomy, you don't conceive a new life.
01:45:58.100 And they also promoted abortion.
01:45:59.920 Because it would be better to kill a child in the womb and not expose it to the sufferings of living as an enslaved spirit in the material world than to allow it to come to term.
01:46:07.940 Then we have the Heres of the Nicolaites.
01:46:10.240 And they were literal cuckolds.
01:46:12.260 They thought that cuckoldry is a rejection of the desire to do your wife.
01:46:17.080 You know, impregnate your wife.
01:46:18.120 And therefore, you're above your desires, they claim.
01:46:21.380 So, therefore, cuckoldry is holy.
01:46:23.460 Yeah, this is why you have the Albigazanian Crusade and the famous aphorism, kill them all and the Lord will know his own.
01:46:37.920 You know?
01:46:38.160 Yeah.
01:46:38.780 How can we tell who is the heretic and who is it?
01:46:41.660 Well, at this point, it doesn't freaking matter.
01:46:43.660 I mean, this is also why intellectuals are, per definition, satanic.
01:46:48.420 I mean, they are.
01:46:49.060 I mean, intellectualism is satanic.
01:46:50.660 It's placing your intellect above instincts, above morals, above God.
01:46:53.720 And we see this as a trend in the whole of society.
01:46:56.480 This is, in its right term, the question.
01:46:59.440 The thing about these nihilistic hedonists is that their subscriptions to camhor models, as they like to call them,
01:47:13.520 these camhor models, these women who masturbate on the internet, who they so frequently give money to,
01:47:20.040 that is essentially their church tax.
01:47:23.720 That is their church tax.
01:47:25.540 That is their God.
01:47:27.540 leaving their genetic legacy in the pathetic remnants of a dirty sock.
01:47:34.380 Yeah.
01:47:34.880 That is all they believe in.
01:47:37.300 Well,
01:47:37.700 responsibility.
01:47:38.700 Well, yeah.
01:47:39.080 I mean, if you look at the modern Western world, like, the movie theater occupies the same position as the neighborhood temples once did.
01:47:49.300 And the household television occupies the same space that the household altar, the household icon once did.
01:48:01.660 Yeah.
01:48:01.880 Fireplace.
01:48:03.120 Yeah.
01:48:05.440 It's the same.
01:48:07.080 Well, and that's the thing.
01:48:07.980 It's, as it has been so eloquently pointed out by many others before us.
01:48:12.520 I mean, liberalism is a totalitarian ideology.
01:48:15.820 You know, democracy is, by definition, a totalitarian ideology.
01:48:19.720 It makes everything political, the domain of the state.
01:48:22.900 With that being said, can I quickly give a quick recommendation?
01:48:27.800 Please go ahead.
01:48:28.660 Yeah, sure.
01:48:28.960 No, it's very rare for me to recommend metapolitical material.
01:48:35.240 But in this case, regarding, like, the explanation of how liberalism and social democracy is totalitarian,
01:48:42.920 I must fully recommend the work of Tomislav Sunnik's Against Democracy and Equality,
01:48:50.680 a book that you can buy on Actos at this very moment.
01:48:53.940 I highly, and I say again, highly recommend everyone to read this work.
01:48:58.960 Yeah.
01:49:00.020 I mean, this is why you can't base a movement on intellectual masturbation.
01:49:06.420 That's why that always leads to shit.
01:49:08.680 That's why we need to get rid of this intellectualist circle jerk that many people advocate.
01:49:14.580 Because you get right back at it.
01:49:16.960 I mean, you can't explain why we shouldn't kill ourselves, right?
01:49:19.780 I mean, you can understand why we shouldn't kill ourselves, but you can't intellectual explainers, right?
01:49:24.360 So just the fact that you're alive means that you realize that there's something more than your brain, right?
01:49:31.900 One of my favorite quips from TRS's banners, they would have little, like, slogans at the top of their website,
01:49:38.560 was, nihilism is easy to start but hard to finish.
01:49:41.840 And there's no better way of saying it.
01:49:45.920 Yeah.
01:49:47.820 It's not comfortable to commit suicide.
01:49:49.800 That stands away from a kameez.
01:49:51.860 That's the only reason.
01:49:52.680 And then you get, like, when they feel less and less and less, they go to more and more extreme shit.
01:49:59.220 Eventually, they hit a wall.
01:50:00.460 And then they kill themselves.
01:50:03.740 The only reason they justify human existence is that other humans procure them for means to orgasms.
01:50:11.600 Yeah.
01:50:12.080 That is what they view you as.
01:50:13.860 The average liberal, they view you as nothing more but as a potential human dildo or a potential fuckhole.
01:50:21.680 Yeah.
01:50:21.760 Keep that in mind.
01:50:23.080 And that's why we are also discussing as well.
01:50:25.300 They have the same mentality.
01:50:26.960 There's no difference between we aboos and bronies.
01:50:30.180 Zero.
01:50:31.300 They are the same.
01:50:32.660 And also keep in mind that when we say liberal, we're also including 99.99% of so-called conservatives here.
01:50:40.760 Yes.
01:50:41.240 Yes.
01:50:41.520 Essentially, yes.
01:50:42.180 The conservative and the, quote-unquote, you know, parliamentarian right-winger is just a left-wing who's like 10 years behind in the rhetorical status quo.
01:50:55.180 Yesterday's liberal.
01:50:55.820 Essentially, they still agree.
01:50:57.280 Yeah, precisely.
01:50:57.860 They still agree with the liberal.
01:50:59.360 But you just think that, quote-unquote, they're going too fast.
01:51:03.040 That's where we're at.
01:51:04.680 There's no, and I say again, no reactionary means whatsoever in any of our current parliamentarian parties who's actually willing to crack the back of the leftist filth.
01:51:18.360 Indeed.
01:51:22.360 Doc Savage, would you like to cover your article?
01:51:25.040 Oh, oh, yes.
01:51:26.900 This, if this isn't a sign of the times, I don't know what it is.
01:51:31.360 Okay, so headline from the Washington Times.
01:51:36.240 OSU, that's Ohio State University, I believe.
01:51:40.420 OSU Group says, terrorist wrongly killed claims justice can't come, quote, from a cop's bullet, end quote.
01:51:53.780 Activists at Ohio State University held a protest this week that framed the killing of Abdul Razak Ali Artan during his ongoing terror attack as unjustified.
01:52:04.860 11 students were injured November the 28th when Mr. Artan turned his car into a weapon.
01:52:12.400 The Somali immigrant and logistics management student.
01:52:16.960 Seriously, there's degrees in logistics management?
01:52:19.180 I guess, I suppose.
01:52:21.300 Isn't that a fancy way of saying warehouse manager?
01:52:24.400 Essentially, yes.
01:52:26.200 Logistics management student was shot by Ohio State University Police Department Officer Alain Horujko.
01:52:32.920 Horujko? Horujko.
01:52:36.360 28, before he could execute victims with a butcher's knife.
01:52:44.380 And here's the best thing, the best quote.
01:52:49.900 And this is a direct quote from whoever the writer was speaking to it.
01:52:56.120 Quote, in some cases, the deceased may have committed acts of violence against others before they were killed.
01:53:02.920 And Ms. Abebe told the Lantern Thursday.
01:53:07.080 Perhaps they were domestic abusers.
01:53:09.060 Perhaps they threatened or killed others.
01:53:11.120 This possibility is not something to shy away from.
01:53:14.280 The protest against police brutality extends to the innocent and the guilty alike.
01:53:20.300 Because we know that no matter the crime, justice and due process don't come from a cop's bullet.
01:53:27.300 And the activist further added that right-wing pundits have used the attack to focus Islamophobia and xenophobia onto Columbus.
01:53:39.300 It's now racist to shoot a terrorist in the middle of his terrorist act.
01:53:55.460 Yeah, well, I mean, this is the logic.
01:53:58.900 That's the thing.
01:53:59.680 If we go back to, you know, it's a totally, it's just going to be 1984.
01:54:03.580 That's what it's going to end up, is the end goal.
01:54:06.320 Hold up.
01:54:06.640 And these are the exact people that Orwell was making fun of in his book, these communists.
01:54:11.840 He was lambasting their politics.
01:54:13.960 And it's just, it's like, yeah, war is peace.
01:54:16.540 Slavery is freedom.
01:54:18.440 I got a quick question.
01:54:20.980 So, if it's racist to shoot them while they commit their terrorist attack, does that imply that terrorism is a part of their culture?
01:54:30.680 Think about that for a second.
01:54:31.940 Oh, well, you know, they're just, you know, Muslims can't be racist because they've been oppressed, okay, and it's not a racial group, okay?
01:54:44.700 Is that you, Moshe?
01:54:46.480 Is that you, Moshe?
01:54:47.520 And racism is animus plus power, remember.
01:54:52.240 Yeah, exactly.
01:54:54.120 Only white people have power.
01:54:55.420 Didn't he have power, didn't he have power when he was wielding that vehicle into a mass of white people and wielding power as he was carrying a knife, something, a privilege the others didn't have?
01:55:09.900 Okay, that's, you have to ignore that, okay, please.
01:55:15.900 Delete this, delete this now, delete this now.
01:55:18.200 Okay, you're embarrassing yourself?
01:55:19.400 Okay, just delete this.
01:55:20.900 Seriously, read a book.
01:55:22.240 It's the current year.
01:55:23.340 Yeah.
01:55:25.680 If you can read this poster, you can read books.
01:55:32.540 Okay, I'm going to cover one more news story, and then I think we're going to wrap it up because I think we're getting to our show limit here.
01:55:39.840 So this is also from Russia Today.
01:55:43.320 Byline is,
01:55:44.360 Robot takeover begins, question mark.
01:55:46.720 Corporate giant Capita replaces staff with automatons.
01:55:49.660 Outsourcing giant Capita is to sack 2,000 staff and replace them with robots, and a move some fear will be repeated across the economy, leading to more than 1 million job losses.
01:56:02.240 The FTSE 100 listed firm, which collects the BBC license fee, that is to say the television tax, and provides services for the NHS, said it needed to axe 2,000 jobs to save money due to poor trading with corporate clients.
01:56:17.420 It said it would use the money it saved to fund investment into robotic workers across the whole company, according to The Guardian.
01:56:22.320 And I mean, I could go on, but usually the first couple of lines of these stories sum everything up.
01:56:28.660 I mean, this is a subject that we've covered before on the show, actually, you know, having to deal with transhumanism and the automatization of labor.
01:56:36.820 You know, and that's, what's going to happen is that the automatization of labor, the roboticization of labor, will in no way, absolutely zero ways, help the worker.
01:56:52.080 What it will do is it will serve to further concentrate capital in the hands of the oligarchs, the Jews, basically.
01:57:00.500 You know, it just, I described this scenario before.
01:57:05.960 What they want, essentially, is they want nobody living in rural areas.
01:57:10.520 They want all of the farms and the factories worked by robots, okay, with one or two, you know, trustworthy, you know, party members who manage them, okay, and repair them when they break down.
01:57:23.860 Yeah, it's replacing God's image with man's image, the machine, the robot.
01:57:28.800 But that's the filth they want.
01:57:30.500 They want to destroy everything that's above their own brain.
01:57:33.640 It's a red thread every year.
01:57:34.900 You see it everywhere.
01:57:38.360 Don't you know, individuality is very toxic.
01:57:41.180 I mean, but when individuality, by the same means, actually benefits the structure of economics, well, then it's good to be a healthy individual with a very, very particular taste of consumerism.
01:57:53.160 But, God forbid, oh, God, if you dare to step outside of the lines of the liberal mediocrity, yeah, how dare you?
01:58:02.780 We need the cyborg.
01:58:04.420 Exactly.
01:58:04.920 I mean, this is like the rabbi's golem, right?
01:58:08.180 The rabbi creates a man out of clay, and then the rabbi uses his sorcery to make it come alive.
01:58:15.620 This is exactly what we're seeing here right now.
01:58:17.740 It's the rabbi's golem.
01:58:18.940 We're all becoming golems.
01:58:20.060 Yeah, and the obvious in-game is to reduce the vast majority of the world population to welfare dependency, basically, to the mass proletariat of 1984.
01:58:38.000 Yeah.
01:58:38.180 Indolent, fed, overfed, drugged up, and plugged into a virtual reality, and completely meaningless in any real terms.
01:58:53.240 A non-threat to the hegeonomy of the oligarchy.
01:58:58.100 Human batteries.
01:58:59.640 Yes.
01:58:59.940 Essentially, and you'll be able to smoke all the GMO weed you want and drink all of the Pepsi that you want in this future scenario.
01:59:09.880 But you won't be able to own guns.
01:59:12.420 Pepsi?
01:59:12.900 Or land.
01:59:14.160 Beavis.
01:59:15.400 Or go to church.
01:59:17.320 Or go to church.
01:59:18.880 And on that note...
01:59:19.940 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
01:59:21.340 Unless there is a...
01:59:22.920 That's very hostile.
01:59:24.180 That's very toxic.
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