Mysterium Fasces

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00:01:29.980 Premier Direct Action Nationalist

00:01:32.080 Group, SkiBass, which I believe

00:01:33.920 means S.H.I.E.L.D. in Lithuanian.

00:01:37.000 Joining me here this week

00:01:38.220 I have myself, your host

00:01:40.080 Florian Geyer. Thank you for

00:01:42.020 joining us once again. We appreciate your

00:01:44.020 listening. I've got on the panel

00:01:45.920 with me Doc Savage. Thanks for joining us, Doc.

00:01:50.260 Glad to be here.

00:01:51.760 It's a pleasure to have you back on. We don't

00:01:53.600 get your insight enough, but that's, you know,

00:01:55.780 due to guest restraints, but

00:01:57.020 certainly we'll have you on more in the future.

00:01:59.840 We've got, as always, Grifahans. Grif, 0.97

00:02:01.740 thanks for your enduring fidelity.

00:02:03.700 Yeah, good to be on.

00:02:05.300 Nat Dainlan might join us at some point, but as

00:02:07.800 our listeners already know, his fidelity

00:02:09.640 is not so

00:02:10.640 enduring and consistent. But of course,

00:02:13.660 our guests of honor, and we've got three of them today,

00:02:16.440 of whom

00:02:17.520 their names I have not memorized,

00:02:19.880 nor have firmly in my mind, so I'll

00:02:21.700 allow them to introduce themselves. This is

00:02:23.440 SkiDAS, and the leader of them is

00:02:25.340 Vaikautas. Thank you, guys. Why don't you

00:02:27.640 just give a little introduction?

00:02:29.320 Hey, so, yeah, so my name is

00:02:31.060 Vytautas, and we are, we don't have

00:02:33.860 leaders, actually, in our

00:02:35.100 group, but

00:02:37.640 in that, in depth, we will get into

00:02:39.980 later on.

00:02:41.280 Yeah, I'm Jurgis.

00:02:42.840 And I'm Kazimir.

00:02:43.680 All right, thank you, Jurgis and Kazimir, for

00:02:47.360 joining, even though I probably will forget

00:02:49.480 your names. I don't take it personally.

00:02:51.760 No problem.

00:02:52.480 So to jump right into this,

00:02:54.120 I have heard about your group

00:02:55.740 tangentially through

00:02:57.660 Iron March, I believe.

00:02:58.920 Slavros had sent me a link, and I know that

00:03:01.060 you guys are basically

00:03:02.700 the game in town as far as

00:03:05.260 direct action groups in Lithuania is concerned,

00:03:07.340 as we already mentioned.

00:03:09.000 But I think that in order to kind of discuss

00:03:11.920 this subject properly, it'd be best for you

00:03:15.040 to give us kind of a little bit of the

00:03:16.360 background of what's going on in

00:03:17.880 Lithuania, because I imagine that a lot

00:03:19.700 of our guests probably couldn't even name

00:03:22.060 you the capital of Lithuania.

00:03:23.820 So what's the history of the nationalist

00:03:26.100 movement in your country?

00:03:27.540 Well, to talk about this, we should give you

00:03:38.920 some backstory from the early years of our

00:03:43.800 restoration of independence.

00:03:46.920 So basically what happened was

00:03:49.880 nationalists lost early on.

00:03:53.420 They couldn't become a parliamentary force

00:03:56.840 in 1904, so yeah, that was a big problem

00:04:05.140 because most parliamentary parties

00:04:08.400 became liberal at some point,

00:04:12.720 and today no other ideology is represented.

00:04:18.620 You have different parties by different names,

00:04:22.200 but they are all liberal.

00:04:23.580 There was a small youth movement, which was

00:04:28.980 nationalist, up until a few years ago, when it

00:04:34.140 basically broke up because of egoism of people.

00:04:41.780 So out of the remnants of it, we came out, basically.

00:04:49.180 Yeah, and what we're trying to do is very new here.

00:04:57.280 We don't have much infrastructure left or anything,

00:05:00.700 so our plan is just leaderless resistance for now.

00:05:04.920 Just trying to get some people together, that's our aim.

00:05:13.100 We don't have membership as high as national action, for example,

00:05:19.480 so it's hard to talk about street activism.

00:05:22.660 Yeah, but we're trying to be more active spreading the idea in general

00:05:30.860 of nationalism and fascism.

00:05:35.220 And for now, we are mostly active online.

00:05:39.560 Yeah, so.

00:05:41.660 Yeah, I understand.

00:05:43.060 Kind of a reasonable position.

00:05:45.120 I mean, egoism is definitely the downfall of many organizations

00:05:50.380 without a shadow of a doubt.

00:05:53.020 So I guess, so you were saying that after Lithuania

00:05:57.820 kind of regained its independence after communist rule,

00:06:02.820 all the parties that were left in terms of representational democracy

00:06:06.620 were liberal.

00:06:07.780 So what about, I'm not super familiar with the history of Lithuania,

00:06:13.760 but what about before World War II,

00:06:15.980 before it was occupied by the communists,

00:06:18.380 was there a greater nationalist movement?

00:06:22.360 Like historically, was there a very strong Lithuanian identity

00:06:25.900 or sort of a more worker-centric

00:06:32.060 or homeland-centric economic or social movement at all?

00:06:36.360 I'd actually like to think that Lithuania was the third fascist country

00:06:43.420 in the world right after Fiume and Italy itself

00:06:47.860 because in 1926, a military coup d'etat happened

00:06:54.820 and the military installed Antanas Matana into power

00:07:01.960 and what he basically did was he adapted Italian-style fascism to Lithuania.

00:07:10.220 So it was this soft pseudo-fascist version of Italian ideology,

00:07:19.520 but there were very distinct traits of fascism.

00:07:25.800 So I like to think that we were the third fascist country.

00:07:31.980 So yeah, the identity and ideology was very great,

00:07:38.160 very much advanced,

00:07:40.360 and it didn't have resistance from the populace.

00:07:47.340 Most people agreed with it,

00:07:49.160 and I'd say that the modern Lithuanian identity

00:07:55.300 was constructed by this pseudo-fascist regime.

00:08:01.020 So right before the Soviets occupied Lithuania,

00:08:06.840 yeah, we had a great identity.

00:08:14.300 But then again,

00:08:15.800 our regime didn't align with Axis regimes

00:08:20.500 because of problems

00:08:24.200 of historical animosity towards Germans

00:08:31.240 and their imperialism

00:08:33.200 because even though we all agree,

00:08:39.220 I mean, Lithuanians in general agree

00:08:41.240 that Germans were not our enemies

00:08:44.900 after the Great War,

00:08:50.780 they still did not abandon

00:08:53.500 some of their imperialist ambitions against us.

00:08:56.460 So it's kind of, you know,

00:08:57.980 a double-edged sword dealing with the Germans.

00:09:01.240 So back in the day,

00:09:04.000 Lithuania did not align with Axis,

00:09:07.320 unfortunately, as a state.

00:09:09.500 But yeah, many people,

00:09:12.500 I think over 20,000 Lithuanians

00:09:15.380 served in Axis forces.

00:09:17.900 And another thing that's very important

00:09:22.380 was June Uprising,

00:09:24.760 which happened when Germans invaded Soviet Union,

00:09:32.520 like Operation Barbarossa.

00:09:36.660 So at that time,

00:09:40.200 Lithuanian anti-Soviet resistance

00:09:42.640 was in touch with Abwehr,

00:09:47.480 and they organized a popular uprising.

00:09:52.080 So what happened was

00:09:53.380 most parts of Lithuania

00:09:55.840 were liberated by Lithuanian uprising

00:09:59.540 before even, like,

00:10:01.140 the German invasion force arrived

00:10:02.860 into Lithuania.

00:10:03.980 So this meant...

00:10:08.740 You're going to mean to...

00:10:10.960 You just cut out there.

00:10:12.160 So why don't you go ahead and restart

00:10:14.560 what you were saying from...

00:10:16.740 You cut off at about this meant...

00:10:19.340 What happened was...

00:10:20.320 All right, go ahead.

00:10:24.400 Yeah, so what happened was that

00:10:26.060 because of the popular uprising,

00:10:29.700 Germans liberated Lithuania in three days

00:10:33.520 with the help of Lithuanian insurgents.

00:10:36.820 So I guess that was the biggest input

00:10:41.860 into the war effort from Lithuanian part.

00:10:47.820 Yeah, no, and I certainly understand

00:10:50.080 the historical situation.

00:10:51.580 I mean, Lithuania and kind of

00:10:53.300 the rest of the Baltic countries

00:10:54.840 after the dismemberment of Poland

00:10:56.620 have kind of been in the middle of,

00:10:58.940 you know, three great powers,

00:11:00.200 Germany, Russia, and Sweden,

00:11:01.960 all vying for control of the territory.

00:11:05.180 So I can understand why, of course,

00:11:08.200 you know, any nationalist movement

00:11:09.680 in Lithuania would be skeptical,

00:11:12.740 shall we say,

00:11:13.300 of any of those three countries.

00:11:16.140 Well, you know,

00:11:17.020 there's still the third option.

00:11:18.160 Okay, Gustav Osudolfis,

00:11:21.320 you've been dead for a very long time. 0.72

00:11:23.100 Please come back to Turkey. 1.00

00:11:24.560 I actually have one question.

00:11:26.780 During the Russian Empire era,

00:11:29.300 how was the Russification policy

00:11:31.280 against Lithuania?

00:11:32.380 Because in Finland,

00:11:33.440 you know, they tried to make Finns

00:11:35.220 more and more Russians, 0.53

00:11:36.180 but how was it in Lithuania?

00:11:37.460 Yeah, so the Russian position

00:11:44.400 on this was kind of unique

00:11:46.740 because of our common state with Poland,

00:11:53.680 they deemed that the Poles

00:11:57.560 and Polish identity

00:11:58.660 is a bigger threat to the Russian Empire 0.94

00:12:00.820 than Lithuanian identity.

00:12:03.520 So they kind of tried

00:12:07.060 putting us one against the other.

00:12:12.160 They tried making Lithuanians 1.00

00:12:14.980 and Poles sort of enemies,

00:12:20.180 and it only served

00:12:22.960 to preserve Lithuanian identity

00:12:25.160 in the long run,

00:12:26.900 which is very ironic, of course.

00:12:29.660 But there was...

00:12:31.520 Soviet cognitive dissonance. 0.61

00:12:34.080 Yeah, but there was another policy

00:12:36.180 because there were two peasant uprisings

00:12:41.200 against the Russian Empire

00:12:42.480 in the territory of Polish

00:12:46.760 and Lithuanian Commonwealth.

00:12:49.100 They had economic aims mostly.

00:12:54.600 Restoration of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth

00:12:56.980 was an aim, but it was not that important

00:13:00.640 as economic aims.

00:13:03.000 So anyway, after the second uprising,

00:13:05.760 which took place in 1864,

00:13:10.160 Russians decided to ban literature

00:13:16.520 in Latin, in Lithuania,

00:13:19.140 in order to make us use

00:13:21.100 Kyrelik alphabet,

00:13:23.640 and they figured it would get us russified.

00:13:28.260 But it had a huge resistance

00:13:32.680 from the people,

00:13:35.160 and what happened is

00:13:36.920 people organized

00:13:40.300 very well

00:13:43.720 smuggling operations,

00:13:46.620 book smuggling operations,

00:13:48.060 which is another unique

00:13:49.940 kind of episode.

00:13:52.540 I'm not aware

00:13:53.920 if any other nation

00:13:55.340 in Europe

00:13:56.060 had anything like this.

00:13:57.760 So what happened was

00:13:58.800 Lithuanians would print books

00:14:00.940 in Lithuanian,

00:14:02.120 in Latin alphabet,

00:14:02.880 in German Prussia,

00:14:04.880 and they would smuggle

00:14:06.040 the books into Lithuania.

00:14:07.940 And this was highly illegal.

00:14:10.960 So,

00:14:12.120 this campaign

00:14:14.520 served to increase literacy

00:14:19.940 a great deal,

00:14:21.180 and it kept Lithuanian identity

00:14:23.160 European.

00:14:26.540 This is your true story.

00:14:27.640 I haven't heard that before.

00:14:29.380 Another backfire of russification 0.79

00:14:31.920 was when they closed down

00:14:34.080 our universities,

00:14:35.620 actually they provided

00:14:36.620 their own universities

00:14:38.560 for Lithuanians

00:14:40.320 to study in,

00:14:41.540 and

00:14:41.920 they basically

00:14:43.140 had an input

00:14:45.560 of forming

00:14:46.340 our intelligentsia,

00:14:47.620 which backfired against them,

00:14:48.940 because

00:14:49.220 they gained education,

00:14:52.020 and

00:14:52.160 they used it

00:14:54.080 against the Russian Empire itself,

00:14:57.080 which basically

00:14:59.060 helped us gain independence

00:15:00.920 in the long run.

00:15:02.920 That's hilarious.

00:15:05.260 Yeah,

00:15:05.860 it's not

00:15:06.580 outside the realm of history.

00:15:08.760 Go ahead, Hans.

00:15:10.120 What's the

00:15:10.760 modern view on Russia, then?

00:15:14.680 Yeah,

00:15:15.220 it's problematic,

00:15:16.520 I would say,

00:15:17.420 in the sense that

00:15:18.880 all our

00:15:21.160 parties,

00:15:22.120 which are basically

00:15:22.860 all liberal,

00:15:24.320 they use Russia 0.78

00:15:25.100 only to

00:15:25.740 fearmonger.

00:15:26.720 today's politics

00:15:29.480 in Lithuania

00:15:30.080 are all about

00:15:31.180 Russians are going 1.00

00:15:32.880 to invade tomorrow.

00:15:34.280 Do you want that?

00:15:35.180 No?

00:15:35.620 Then vote for us.

00:15:37.940 So,

00:15:38.700 it's very

00:15:39.600 problematic,

00:15:42.540 because

00:15:42.840 there's no

00:15:43.680 objective

00:15:45.660 opinions

00:15:46.620 about

00:15:48.340 Russians,

00:15:49.300 and it's all 0.86

00:15:49.820 based on fear,

00:15:50.860 and also

00:15:51.980 another

00:15:53.560 problem,

00:15:54.500 which

00:15:54.760 most

00:15:55.520 small nations

00:15:56.500 have,

00:15:57.320 exists,

00:15:57.980 that is

00:15:58.600 inferiority

00:16:00.640 complex,

00:16:01.940 which means

00:16:02.620 we have

00:16:03.140 coxervatives

00:16:04.560 that cry

00:16:05.340 for Russians

00:16:06.860 to pay

00:16:07.320 reparations

00:16:08.260 for occupation,

00:16:10.200 which is,

00:16:10.780 I think,

00:16:11.320 it is 0.97

00:16:11.660 retarded, 1.00

00:16:12.480 because

00:16:12.820 it only

00:16:14.160 serves to

00:16:15.220 create

00:16:15.940 our

00:16:17.260 historical

00:16:18.220 narrative

00:16:18.660 as

00:16:19.400 victim

00:16:20.440 people,

00:16:21.500 like

00:16:21.780 what you

00:16:22.520 have with

00:16:22.900 Jews or 0.72

00:16:23.520 Armenians,

00:16:24.780 their whole

00:16:25.360 identities

00:16:25.940 are based

00:16:26.840 around crying,

00:16:28.420 because

00:16:28.780 somebody hurt

00:16:29.620 us in the

00:16:30.080 past,

00:16:30.540 and it

00:16:30.820 serves

00:16:31.280 nothing.

00:16:34.640 That's a very

00:16:35.040 interesting

00:16:35.420 perspective,

00:16:36.800 sir,

00:16:37.140 that's a very

00:16:37.520 interesting

00:16:37.920 perspective.

00:16:38.860 I really

00:16:39.240 appreciate it

00:16:39.960 when nations

00:16:41.200 actually decide

00:16:42.020 to pull out

00:16:43.160 the pacifier

00:16:43.840 from one's

00:16:44.880 mouth and

00:16:45.400 stop 0.94

00:16:45.720 pissing

00:16:46.200 on their 0.98

00:16:46.980 pants.

00:16:47.780 I think

00:16:48.180 it's really

00:16:48.480 good that

00:16:48.820 you're going

00:16:49.140 for a

00:16:49.460 stronger

00:16:49.720 narrative,

00:16:50.500 because

00:16:50.580 in terms

00:16:51.820 of,

00:16:52.140 I live

00:16:52.560 in Denmark,

00:16:53.300 the feedback

00:16:54.220 we get

00:16:54.560 from you

00:16:54.860 guys is

00:16:55.320 that,

00:16:55.880 you're

00:16:56.940 pretty much

00:16:59.820 known as

00:17:00.260 the victim

00:17:00.860 block,

00:17:01.740 but I'm

00:17:02.060 glad to

00:17:02.420 see that

00:17:02.940 the self

00:17:03.900 understanding

00:17:04.560 from you

00:17:05.060 nationalists

00:17:06.520 in Lithuania

00:17:07.580 is so strong

00:17:08.740 that you're

00:17:09.160 willing to

00:17:09.620 deal with

00:17:10.940 this 0.97

00:17:11.320 piss 0.99

00:17:13.280 baby 1.00

00:17:13.700 shit. 1.00

00:17:14.320 so I 1.00

00:17:15.260 admire

00:17:15.840 that.

00:17:16.860 Thank

00:17:17.460 you.

00:17:17.860 Yeah,

00:17:18.140 that's

00:17:18.560 my idea.

00:17:20.320 It has

00:17:20.880 been my

00:17:21.240 idea for

00:17:21.600 a long

00:17:21.860 time.

00:17:22.420 Instead

00:17:22.620 of crying

00:17:23.280 about those

00:17:24.300 things that

00:17:25.200 happened in

00:17:25.760 the past,

00:17:26.520 we should

00:17:27.140 create a

00:17:28.120 positive

00:17:28.480 narrative,

00:17:29.340 which we

00:17:30.040 think we

00:17:31.060 would do

00:17:32.040 with the

00:17:34.300 fact that

00:17:35.260 Lithuania

00:17:35.760 was the

00:17:37.580 third fascist

00:17:38.320 country in

00:17:39.100 the world,

00:17:39.860 and it

00:17:40.300 became so

00:17:40.920 in 1926.

00:17:44.000 It's

00:17:44.520 fascinating.

00:17:45.280 I think

00:17:46.200 myself and

00:17:46.960 most of

00:17:47.300 our viewers

00:17:47.780 really don't

00:17:48.900 know that

00:17:49.260 much about

00:17:49.700 Lithuania at

00:17:50.400 all, and

00:17:51.360 it's really

00:17:52.020 it is quite

00:17:54.100 a strategic

00:17:54.760 and important

00:17:58.220 part of the

00:17:58.680 world, and

00:17:59.260 really it

00:18:00.300 has been the

00:18:01.040 forefront of

00:18:02.020 an intercontinental

00:18:03.320 struggle for

00:18:04.020 a thousand

00:18:04.400 years, ever

00:18:05.420 since the

00:18:08.160 Dutch showed

00:18:08.660 up, now that I

00:18:09.180 come to think

00:18:09.600 of it, but

00:18:13.240 I digress.

00:18:13.600 Dutch are kind 1.00

00:18:14.180 of shit, to 1.00

00:18:15.920 be honest. 1.00

00:18:16.700 Yeah, but

00:18:18.660 I digress.

00:18:21.060 So what was

00:18:22.300 the situation

00:18:22.940 like in

00:18:23.420 Lithuania under

00:18:24.300 the control of

00:18:25.000 the communists?

00:18:25.840 Because my

00:18:26.120 understanding is

00:18:26.700 that's of

00:18:27.220 course what

00:18:27.500 happened to

00:18:28.320 Lithuania along

00:18:28.980 with most of

00:18:29.440 Eastern Europe

00:18:29.920 after Germany

00:18:31.600 was defeated.

00:18:34.440 Right, so

00:18:35.560 after the

00:18:37.040 actually not

00:18:39.060 even after

00:18:40.220 the war

00:18:40.580 ended, while

00:18:42.020 the Russians

00:18:43.820 advanced west

00:18:44.880 and Lithuania

00:18:46.540 was already

00:18:47.360 under their

00:18:47.900 control, anti-Soviet

00:18:49.400 resistance sprung

00:18:50.660 up everywhere.

00:18:52.320 Initially it

00:18:53.220 was supported

00:18:54.620 by Germans

00:18:56.300 and up there

00:18:57.120 and even

00:18:58.820 supplied by the

00:18:59.800 Germans by

00:19:00.600 airdrops.

00:19:01.440 and yeah,

00:19:05.700 basically the

00:19:06.600 Lithuanian

00:19:07.340 resistance

00:19:07.780 lasted right

00:19:09.560 up until

00:19:10.320 Stalin died

00:19:11.220 and some

00:19:12.120 fighters held

00:19:13.320 out for

00:19:13.940 decades longer.

00:19:16.880 The aim of

00:19:18.240 the resistance

00:19:18.980 was, and

00:19:22.960 the expectation

00:19:24.180 was...

00:19:24.440 Okay, so

00:19:28.420 technical

00:19:28.860 problems

00:19:29.800 notwithstanding,

00:19:30.940 let's get

00:19:31.320 back into

00:19:31.680 the conversation.

00:19:32.980 May God

00:19:33.480 help us

00:19:33.860 record this

00:19:34.620 episode.

00:19:35.520 So before

00:19:36.340 we had the

00:19:37.240 very rude

00:19:37.860 interruption

00:19:38.380 in our

00:19:38.740 recording,

00:19:39.840 you were

00:19:41.100 talking a

00:19:41.680 little bit

00:19:42.060 about resistance

00:19:43.060 to Soviet

00:19:43.940 occupation up

00:19:45.020 until after

00:19:45.560 the era of

00:19:46.040 Joseph Stalin.

00:19:47.140 I've heard

00:19:47.800 about these

00:19:48.160 guys.

00:19:48.420 Are these

00:19:48.680 the Forrest

00:19:49.420 brothers?

00:19:50.860 Yes, they

00:19:51.200 are.

00:19:51.660 Yeah, that's

00:19:52.600 how they're

00:19:53.380 called.

00:19:54.440 So, and

00:20:00.900 you see, you

00:20:01.340 said the

00:20:01.600 Forrest

00:20:01.840 brothers were

00:20:02.560 resisting the

00:20:03.440 occupation, you

00:20:04.440 know, long

00:20:04.880 after the

00:20:05.320 end of World

00:20:05.740 War II, you

00:20:06.980 know, into

00:20:07.460 the post-Stalinist

00:20:08.740 era.

00:20:09.080 What happened

00:20:09.620 to kind of

00:20:10.560 make the

00:20:10.900 resistance die

00:20:11.480 out?

00:20:11.740 Was it

00:20:11.960 simply a

00:20:12.440 matter of

00:20:12.860 people getting

00:20:13.300 adjusted to

00:20:13.880 life under

00:20:14.200 Soviet rule?

00:20:15.580 And more

00:20:15.920 so, was

00:20:16.900 there a

00:20:17.220 serious Soviet 0.80

00:20:17.920 attempt to

00:20:18.480 destroy

00:20:18.980 Lithuanian

00:20:19.720 culture as

00:20:20.620 it happened in

00:20:21.120 the rest of

00:20:21.640 Europe?

00:20:22.380 And what

00:20:22.640 was the

00:20:22.960 just, was

00:20:23.600 there,

00:20:24.000 like, huge

00:20:25.200 exportations of

00:20:26.180 families and

00:20:26.880 people to the

00:20:27.340 gulags and

00:20:27.860 stuff like that?

00:20:28.320 I'm curious about

00:20:28.900 to know, what

00:20:29.780 was the

00:20:30.060 treatment of

00:20:30.480 Lithuania like

00:20:31.200 under the

00:20:31.800 Stalinist regime

00:20:32.540 and the

00:20:32.940 Soviet regime?

00:20:34.840 Yeah, so,

00:20:35.920 where was I?

00:20:37.620 Yeah, the,

00:20:39.580 because the

00:20:40.540 resistance had a

00:20:43.120 huge popular

00:20:43.660 support, Soviets

00:20:44.780 resorted to

00:20:46.040 mass deportations

00:20:47.840 to Siberian

00:20:48.840 to Siberian

00:20:48.880 gulags.

00:20:52.380 I think the

00:20:53.140 number is

00:20:54.440 one-third of

00:20:56.980 all

00:20:57.680 Lithuanians

00:20:58.640 hurt one way

00:21:01.920 or another

00:21:02.480 by Soviet

00:21:03.920 repressions.

00:21:06.760 About

00:21:07.520 300,000 people

00:21:10.420 were deported

00:21:11.100 to numerous

00:21:14.920 institutions.

00:21:16.640 You have

00:21:17.080 gulags, but

00:21:17.860 gulags do 1.00

00:21:18.540 not, gulags

00:21:20.360 are not the

00:21:20.880 only ones.

00:21:21.680 There were

00:21:22.280 different types

00:21:23.440 of prisons.

00:21:23.920 So, we

00:21:24.900 have 300,000

00:21:26.300 Lithuanian

00:21:27.440 civilians

00:21:27.900 deported.

00:21:30.560 Yeah, this

00:21:31.440 was done to

00:21:32.640 break the

00:21:33.820 popular support

00:21:34.960 to the

00:21:36.420 resistance.

00:21:37.680 But these

00:21:39.720 policies ended

00:21:40.680 when Stalin

00:21:41.300 died and

00:21:42.660 with the

00:21:44.220 change of

00:21:45.080 the Soviet

00:21:46.920 regime,

00:21:49.220 resistance

00:21:52.320 kind of

00:21:53.060 became less

00:21:54.520 and less

00:21:54.840 supported

00:21:55.420 by the

00:21:57.120 populace

00:21:57.720 because

00:21:59.400 Soviets 0.97

00:22:01.220 offered

00:22:01.840 amnesty

00:22:02.480 and it

00:22:03.520 was kind

00:22:04.660 of legitimate

00:22:05.820 amnesty.

00:22:07.440 Stalin 0.57

00:22:07.700 offered

00:22:08.220 numerous

00:22:08.640 amnesties,

00:22:09.320 but none

00:22:09.920 of them

00:22:10.480 were real

00:22:11.100 and if

00:22:12.800 one would

00:22:14.880 give up

00:22:15.460 during

00:22:16.520 Stalin's

00:22:17.420 reign,

00:22:18.360 he would

00:22:18.800 just get 0.98

00:22:19.180 killed 1.00

00:22:19.560 pretty much.

00:22:21.820 Yeah, so

00:22:22.280 because of

00:22:24.700 change of

00:22:25.420 the Soviet

00:22:26.880 regime,

00:22:28.560 resistance

00:22:28.960 ultimately

00:22:29.660 faded

00:22:33.160 and the

00:22:35.740 resistance

00:22:36.320 to Soviet

00:22:37.320 policies

00:22:37.820 became

00:22:38.340 cultural.

00:22:42.120 Right, so

00:22:43.320 would you say

00:22:43.860 that

00:22:44.240 what we

00:22:47.420 typically see

00:22:48.120 with ex-Soviet

00:22:49.320 states is that

00:22:50.140 the oppression

00:22:51.380 they faced

00:22:52.300 culturally under

00:22:53.200 the Bolshevik 0.79

00:22:54.780 regime resulted

00:22:55.960 in a tighter

00:22:56.840 and more

00:22:57.280 integrated culture

00:22:58.120 after they

00:22:58.700 exited

00:22:59.260 Soviet space

00:23:00.980 and we can

00:23:01.460 certainly see

00:23:02.020 in countries

00:23:02.480 like Poland 0.99

00:23:03.860 and Hungary

00:23:04.380 where they

00:23:04.740 have a fairly

00:23:05.540 substantial

00:23:06.280 nationalist

00:23:07.080 and right-wing

00:23:08.040 movement in

00:23:08.540 their countries.

00:23:09.940 Why is it

00:23:10.600 that in

00:23:10.880 Lithuania the

00:23:11.740 country is

00:23:12.460 still dominated

00:23:13.100 from a

00:23:13.540 parliamentary

00:23:13.880 perspective

00:23:14.500 by liberal

00:23:15.580 politics and

00:23:16.660 the culture

00:23:17.180 didn't emerge

00:23:18.060 kind of stronger

00:23:19.100 more integrated

00:23:19.800 and more

00:23:20.200 nationalist?

00:23:23.400 That's a

00:23:24.240 thing I

00:23:25.280 often wonder

00:23:25.840 myself because

00:23:26.600 the culture

00:23:27.340 itself emerged

00:23:28.620 stronger and

00:23:30.780 with a

00:23:32.500 more integrated

00:23:34.140 identity

00:23:34.960 but I

00:23:38.780 have no

00:23:39.160 explanation for

00:23:39.860 this.

00:23:40.380 Why it did

00:23:41.060 not transfer

00:23:42.920 to the

00:23:43.440 political

00:23:43.800 sphere

00:23:44.460 if you

00:23:48.240 compare

00:23:49.000 all

00:23:50.400 Eastern

00:23:51.220 European

00:23:51.500 countries

00:23:51.960 in this

00:23:52.340 regard

00:23:52.780 you can

00:23:53.940 clearly see

00:23:54.560 that it

00:23:56.420 has to do

00:23:57.000 with the

00:23:57.560 fact that

00:23:58.460 even though

00:23:59.480 those states

00:24:02.240 like Poland 0.99

00:24:03.020 and Hungary

00:24:03.520 were communist

00:24:04.720 they were 0.87

00:24:06.240 puppets

00:24:12.060 they had

00:24:12.660 some

00:24:13.100 autonomy

00:24:14.700 and they

00:24:15.420 were ruled

00:24:15.860 by local

00:24:16.460 communists

00:24:17.120 the Baltic

00:24:18.120 states

00:24:18.480 also were

00:24:20.440 subjects

00:24:22.640 within the

00:24:24.020 Soviet Union

00:24:24.860 Soviet

00:24:25.260 Republic

00:24:25.600 so we

00:24:27.320 also had

00:24:28.000 some

00:24:28.700 autonomy

00:24:29.240 and our

00:24:30.020 communist

00:24:30.440 party

00:24:30.860 was made

00:24:32.280 up by

00:24:32.700 Lithuania

00:24:33.080 and Latvian

00:24:34.080 communist

00:24:34.480 party

00:24:34.860 was made

00:24:35.340 up by

00:24:36.240 Latvians

00:24:36.680 but the

00:24:39.340 policies

00:24:39.780 within the

00:24:41.660 local

00:24:41.960 communist

00:24:42.320 party

00:24:42.800 are to

00:24:44.180 blame

00:24:44.480 for these

00:24:46.460 types of

00:24:46.920 things

00:24:47.160 because for

00:24:48.460 example

00:24:48.780 Latvian

00:24:49.420 and Estonian

00:24:50.220 communists

00:24:50.880 were much

00:24:54.140 more

00:24:55.580 globalist

00:24:57.040 in their

00:24:57.620 thinking

00:24:58.000 so they

00:24:58.620 basically

00:24:59.020 let in

00:25:00.500 the Russian

00:25:02.120 colonists

00:25:02.880 on their

00:25:03.260 own

00:25:03.520 of course

00:25:04.720 there was

00:25:05.040 pressure

00:25:05.360 from

00:25:05.700 Moscow

00:25:06.320 but

00:25:07.120 ultimately

00:25:07.740 they

00:25:08.140 made the

00:25:09.240 decision

00:25:09.580 to let

00:25:10.060 Russian

00:25:10.620 colonists

00:25:11.300 in

00:25:11.580 on their

00:25:12.140 own

00:25:12.360 and

00:25:12.780 Lithuanian

00:25:13.220 communist

00:25:13.600 party

00:25:13.960 did not

00:25:14.520 it resisted

00:25:16.060 the orders

00:25:17.180 from Moscow

00:25:17.760 a quick

00:25:18.440 quick question

00:25:18.960 the

00:25:21.560 Lithuanian

00:25:22.720 communist

00:25:23.160 party

00:25:23.380 was that

00:25:23.720 by any

00:25:24.280 chance

00:25:24.860 financed

00:25:26.540 as well

00:25:26.900 as

00:25:27.160 inspired

00:25:28.100 and supported

00:25:28.740 by Moscow

00:25:29.540 now I'm

00:25:30.640 primarily

00:25:31.000 referring to

00:25:31.600 this with

00:25:32.280 Finland

00:25:33.460 as an

00:25:34.400 example

00:25:34.740 in mind

00:25:35.280 where the

00:25:36.180 communists

00:25:36.980 in Finland

00:25:37.480 were heavily

00:25:38.380 financed

00:25:39.220 by the

00:25:40.680 Moscovites 0.97

00:25:41.440 yeah of

00:25:43.280 course

00:25:43.540 it was

00:25:44.280 from the

00:25:45.500 beginning

00:25:45.760 organized

00:25:46.420 and financed

00:25:47.020 by Moscow

00:25:47.540 but for

00:25:48.480 some reason

00:25:49.080 Stalin 0.57

00:25:50.480 let

00:25:51.060 Lithuanian

00:25:51.640 communist

00:25:51.980 party

00:25:52.340 have much

00:25:53.100 more

00:25:53.500 autonomy

00:25:54.100 than

00:25:54.980 Latvian

00:25:55.720 or Estonian

00:25:56.320 communists

00:25:57.040 had

00:25:57.340 and there's

00:25:58.360 no

00:25:59.120 explanation

00:26:01.100 for this

00:26:01.600 basically

00:26:02.020 it's

00:26:02.540 an anomaly

00:26:03.620 yeah

00:26:04.180 and

00:26:04.880 we have

00:26:05.940 I have a

00:26:06.280 question

00:26:06.660 yeah sure

00:26:07.720 how many

00:26:08.200 how many

00:26:08.760 Russians

00:26:09.380 are living

00:26:10.780 in

00:26:11.180 Lithuania

00:26:12.100 at this

00:26:12.660 very moment

00:26:13.360 6%

00:26:14.260 of the

00:26:15.140 population

00:26:15.560 are Russians

00:26:16.220 oh that's

00:26:17.560 quite a bit

00:26:18.080 6%

00:26:20.080 6%

00:26:20.600 is that

00:26:21.260 is that

00:26:22.100 number

00:26:22.360 growing by

00:26:22.960 any chance

00:26:23.460 no it's

00:26:24.080 it's

00:26:24.340 it's

00:26:24.600 dropping

00:26:24.940 it's

00:26:25.560 decreasing

00:26:25.940 significantly

00:26:26.740 yeah

00:26:28.300 are there

00:26:29.240 any serious

00:26:29.720 ethnic

00:26:30.100 tensions

00:26:30.700 vis-a-vis

00:26:31.540 the minority

00:26:32.040 population

00:26:32.680 it depends

00:26:35.240 on the

00:26:35.520 area

00:26:35.840 because

00:26:36.340 our

00:26:37.420 ethnic

00:26:38.660 minorities

00:26:39.200 Russians 0.93

00:26:40.360 and

00:26:41.580 Poles 0.99

00:26:42.540 they live

00:26:43.400 in compact

00:26:44.940 areas

00:26:45.500 in eastern

00:26:46.520 Lithuania

00:26:47.080 so

00:26:47.940 there

00:26:48.500 are some

00:26:49.780 tensions

00:26:50.200 but they

00:26:50.860 usually are

00:26:51.400 local

00:26:51.760 and they

00:26:52.300 do not

00:26:52.720 cause

00:26:54.140 nationwide

00:26:55.140 problem

00:26:56.140 because

00:26:57.500 the reason

00:26:58.680 I'm asking

00:26:59.340 into this

00:26:59.840 is because

00:27:00.480 I get

00:27:01.720 in the

00:27:02.660 west

00:27:02.960 we talk

00:27:03.340 a lot

00:27:03.620 about

00:27:03.920 like

00:27:04.220 a

00:27:04.460 potential

00:27:04.920 Russification 0.97

00:27:05.740 of the

00:27:07.760 Baltic

00:27:08.460 area

00:27:08.860 now

00:27:09.540 what I'm

00:27:10.600 primarily

00:27:10.960 thinking about

00:27:11.600 because I

00:27:11.980 was kind

00:27:12.320 of curious

00:27:12.640 about this

00:27:13.140 particularly

00:27:13.920 in relation

00:27:15.080 to for

00:27:15.600 example

00:27:15.980 Latvia

00:27:16.620 where

00:27:17.300 according

00:27:17.700 to what

00:27:18.080 is it

00:27:18.300 2014

00:27:19.020 it was

00:27:19.620 estimated

00:27:20.080 that

00:27:20.520 26%

00:27:21.720 of the

00:27:22.080 population

00:27:22.580 was actually

00:27:23.100 Russian

00:27:23.520 and it

00:27:24.740 is growing

00:27:25.340 26%

00:27:27.700 yeah

00:27:29.120 26%

00:27:29.980 of the

00:27:30.700 Latvian

00:27:31.080 population

00:27:31.580 are

00:27:31.800 Russians

00:27:32.280 actually

00:27:32.960 for example

00:27:34.100 if you

00:27:34.400 take

00:27:34.620 Riga

00:27:34.980 the

00:27:35.440 Latvian

00:27:35.720 capital

00:27:36.220 55%

00:27:39.200 of people

00:27:40.180 in Riga

00:27:40.900 are Russians

00:27:41.680 it's much

00:27:43.600 more

00:27:43.940 and you

00:27:44.220 have a

00:27:44.780 much

00:27:44.960 bigger

00:27:45.240 problem

00:27:45.700 yeah

00:27:46.880 wow

00:27:48.360 that's

00:27:48.960 that's

00:27:49.240 insane

00:27:49.580 I thought

00:27:50.860 we

00:27:51.140 I thought

00:27:51.760 Somalis

00:27:52.240 were a

00:27:52.540 problem

00:27:52.820 no you

00:27:55.760 know

00:27:55.880 for the

00:27:56.300 record

00:27:56.520 I'm not

00:27:57.020 implying

00:27:57.460 that

00:27:57.700 Russians

00:27:58.040 are

00:27:58.280 Somalis

00:27:58.720 that's

00:28:01.980 another

00:28:02.220 issue

00:28:02.680 that's

00:28:03.000 another

00:28:03.180 issue

00:28:03.500 I

00:28:03.700 kind

00:28:04.660 of

00:28:04.780 want

00:28:04.980 to

00:28:05.100 address

00:28:05.380 because

00:28:05.840 there

00:28:06.840 are

00:28:07.320 two

00:28:07.500 types

00:28:07.840 of

00:28:08.080 Russification 0.97

00:28:08.780 if you

00:28:09.380 will

00:28:09.640 that

00:28:10.620 deal

00:28:11.300 with

00:28:11.600 Bolshevism 0.95

00:28:12.560 so you

00:28:12.900 have

00:28:13.220 ethnic

00:28:15.040 Russians

00:28:15.820 as

00:28:17.000 coming

00:28:17.680 as

00:28:17.920 colonizers

00:28:18.580 which is

00:28:19.440 not nice

00:28:20.100 but

00:28:20.920 then you

00:28:21.740 also have

00:28:22.400 the culture

00:28:23.060 itself

00:28:23.440 the Bolshevik 0.79

00:28:24.100 culture

00:28:24.500 which means

00:28:25.120 making people

00:28:26.160 rootless

00:28:26.660 and

00:28:27.560 these are

00:28:29.380 two different

00:28:30.280 approaches

00:28:30.980 they took

00:28:31.820 against

00:28:32.280 the Baltic

00:28:33.040 people

00:28:33.480 since

00:28:35.720 Lithuania

00:28:36.360 did not

00:28:36.700 experience

00:28:37.220 mass

00:28:37.640 colonization

00:28:38.560 by Russians

00:28:39.840 we

00:28:41.420 instead

00:28:42.360 we experienced

00:28:43.260 a much

00:28:44.180 much greater

00:28:46.720 cultural

00:28:47.860 influence

00:28:50.560 like

00:28:52.160 from the

00:28:53.460 Russian

00:28:53.880 Bolshevik

00:28:54.520 culture

00:28:55.220 so more

00:28:55.840 more

00:28:56.680 Jewish

00:28:57.320 and less

00:28:57.920 Russian

00:28:58.520 is kind

00:28:58.960 of what

00:28:59.180 you're

00:28:59.300 saying

00:28:59.560 perhaps

00:29:00.100 this

00:29:00.320 explains

00:29:00.660 the

00:29:00.880 reason

00:29:01.140 why

00:29:01.480 parliamentary

00:29:01.920 politics

00:29:02.500 are so

00:29:02.840 liberal

00:29:03.200 yeah

00:29:04.480 the problem

00:29:05.940 is

00:29:06.260 if you

00:29:07.960 look from

00:29:08.560 today's

00:29:09.820 perspective

00:29:10.340 in regard

00:29:12.320 to

00:29:12.520 nationalism

00:29:12.940 what you

00:29:13.460 have now

00:29:13.860 is

00:29:14.180 for example

00:29:14.960 in Latvia

00:29:15.660 since

00:29:17.100 Russians

00:29:17.800 comprise

00:29:18.420 such a

00:29:19.000 big part

00:29:19.680 of their

00:29:20.040 population

00:29:20.640 everyday

00:29:22.480 Latvians

00:29:23.100 they feel

00:29:24.080 threatened

00:29:24.680 and they

00:29:26.320 see

00:29:27.340 the threat

00:29:29.860 of

00:29:32.860 other

00:29:33.360 migrants

00:29:35.580 so to

00:29:36.000 say

00:29:36.220 opposed

00:29:36.960 to their

00:29:37.540 survival

00:29:38.040 so that's

00:29:39.300 why they

00:29:39.740 become

00:29:40.220 much

00:29:40.740 more

00:29:41.360 nationalist

00:29:41.820 and

00:29:42.340 that's

00:29:43.180 why they

00:29:43.500 vote

00:29:43.780 for Latvian

00:29:44.700 nationalists

00:29:45.340 and that's

00:29:45.940 why

00:29:46.220 national

00:29:46.740 APVNIVA

00:29:47.540 have

00:29:48.320 huge support

00:29:50.440 they are

00:29:51.020 the third

00:29:51.640 party

00:29:52.700 in parliament

00:29:53.420 they have

00:29:55.260 huge support

00:29:55.800 I don't think

00:29:56.660 any other

00:29:57.920 genuinely

00:29:59.100 nationalist

00:29:59.580 party

00:30:00.060 in Europe

00:30:00.720 has such

00:30:01.300 a support

00:30:01.760 they're not

00:30:02.920 populist

00:30:03.460 they're

00:30:03.960 genuine

00:30:04.300 nationalists

00:30:05.360 and they

00:30:05.860 do have

00:30:06.340 this support

00:30:07.780 so

00:30:08.420 I think

00:30:09.780 it's

00:30:10.300 because

00:30:11.480 they have

00:30:12.180 such a

00:30:13.100 big number

00:30:13.560 of Russians

00:30:14.100 while

00:30:15.020 in Lithuania

00:30:15.760 we don't have

00:30:17.220 this number

00:30:18.020 of colonists

00:30:18.780 and the people

00:30:20.220 are

00:30:20.780 apathetic

00:30:21.880 they do

00:30:23.140 not see

00:30:23.700 a threat

00:30:24.460 they

00:30:25.280 they are

00:30:26.980 overtaken

00:30:27.680 by individualist

00:30:29.000 and liberal

00:30:29.660 values

00:30:30.440 because of

00:30:31.140 that

00:30:31.400 and yeah

00:30:32.080 it transfers

00:30:32.640 to politics

00:30:33.280 yeah

00:30:33.600 so

00:30:34.260 they're not

00:30:35.000 noticing

00:30:36.360 that

00:30:36.840 the cornfields

00:30:38.740 are burning

00:30:39.160 you know

00:30:39.520 they're not

00:30:39.980 noticing that

00:30:40.600 because their

00:30:41.020 own cornfield

00:30:41.620 is not burning

00:30:42.300 I have a

00:30:44.480 question

00:30:44.960 a general

00:30:45.620 question here

00:30:46.240 in terms

00:30:47.880 of relations

00:30:48.620 between

00:30:49.540 Lithuania

00:30:50.880 Latvia

00:30:51.500 and Estonia

00:30:52.740 do you

00:30:53.620 consider each

00:30:54.260 other to be

00:30:55.000 brother peoples

00:30:56.220 do you have

00:30:58.100 any sort of

00:30:59.460 you know

00:30:59.780 in between

00:31:00.580 banter

00:31:01.160 you know

00:31:01.620 a friendly

00:31:02.760 hatred

00:31:03.240 if you will

00:31:03.820 and how

00:31:04.460 in general

00:31:05.120 is the

00:31:05.580 relations

00:31:06.380 between

00:31:06.920 Estonians

00:31:07.580 Latvians

00:31:08.520 and Lithuanians

00:31:09.380 there's no

00:31:10.760 hatred

00:31:11.140 it's

00:31:12.660 it's all

00:31:13.800 about love

00:31:14.280 really

00:31:14.680 we

00:31:16.320 that's pretty 0.90

00:31:17.020 gay 0.99

00:31:17.380 no homo 1.00

00:31:19.000 we sort

00:31:19.640 of compete

00:31:20.280 we sort

00:31:21.680 of compete

00:31:22.360 in economic

00:31:23.480 sense

00:31:23.980 you know

00:31:24.520 we have

00:31:24.920 Lithuania

00:31:25.400 newspapers

00:31:25.780 saying oh

00:31:26.760 Estonia

00:31:27.380 overtook us

00:31:28.240 again

00:31:28.540 in some

00:31:29.540 issue

00:31:29.880 or something

00:31:30.640 yeah but

00:31:31.260 that's it

00:31:31.880 we all

00:31:33.080 friendly competition

00:31:33.920 essentially

00:31:34.420 yeah

00:31:34.820 we all

00:31:35.680 consider each

00:31:36.300 other

00:31:36.500 brother folk

00:31:37.940 yeah

00:31:38.580 that's very

00:31:40.920 interesting

00:31:41.420 because my

00:31:41.840 understanding

00:31:42.380 is that

00:31:42.800 the like

00:31:43.640 the national

00:31:44.180 origins of

00:31:44.860 Lithuania

00:31:45.360 Latvia and

00:31:46.320 Estonia are 1.00

00:31:47.060 really like

00:31:47.720 radically different

00:31:48.920 in terms of

00:31:49.460 the language

00:31:49.980 and the religion

00:31:50.700 and the even

00:31:51.760 the ethnic

00:31:52.200 group

00:31:52.560 so

00:31:54.380 Latvians

00:31:55.680 and Lithuanians

00:31:56.980 are the same

00:31:57.620 people

00:31:58.040 oh okay

00:31:59.180 yeah

00:31:59.940 basically our

00:32:00.900 differences

00:32:01.380 come from

00:32:02.180 the fact

00:32:02.620 that

00:32:03.540 crusader

00:32:05.960 state

00:32:06.780 occupied

00:32:07.560 them

00:32:07.960 you know

00:32:09.380 like

00:32:09.880 Lithuanians

00:32:10.600 are Latvians

00:32:11.420 that remained

00:32:12.000 independent

00:32:12.660 and Latvians

00:32:13.720 are Lithuanians

00:32:14.480 that got

00:32:14.940 subdued by

00:32:15.500 the Germans

00:32:16.020 basically

00:32:16.760 we are

00:32:17.460 people

00:32:18.040 yeah

00:32:20.680 during the

00:32:22.620 the Livonian

00:32:23.620 Brotherhood

00:32:24.180 yeah

00:32:25.920 when it

00:32:26.880 when it

00:32:27.440 occupied

00:32:28.040 Latvian

00:32:30.160 parts of

00:32:30.640 Estonia

00:32:31.140 that's

00:32:32.540 that's

00:32:33.340 the point

00:32:33.740 from which

00:32:34.340 our cultures

00:32:35.040 diverged

00:32:35.660 because

00:32:36.080 up until

00:32:37.200 then

00:32:37.500 Lithuians

00:32:38.180 and Latvians

00:32:38.720 were the

00:32:39.120 same

00:32:39.300 people

00:32:39.740 interesting

00:32:42.900 because

00:32:43.360 yeah

00:32:43.760 I do

00:32:44.300 know

00:32:44.540 that

00:32:44.740 in the

00:32:45.160 I think

00:32:45.700 it was

00:32:45.860 like in

00:32:46.080 the 12th

00:32:46.860 to 11th

00:32:47.400 century

00:32:47.660 you had

00:32:48.460 like the

00:32:48.740 teutonic

00:32:49.220 order

00:32:49.660 as well

00:32:50.140 as a

00:32:50.880 certain

00:32:51.120 other

00:32:51.420 nation

00:32:51.960 come by

00:32:54.300 and invade

00:32:54.760 you

00:32:55.000 because you

00:32:55.740 were pagans

00:32:56.660 yeah

00:32:57.260 yeah

00:32:57.880 yeah

00:32:58.820 they had

00:32:59.580 crusades

00:33:00.260 organized

00:33:01.880 throughout

00:33:02.280 Europe

00:33:02.560 against us

00:33:03.440 that

00:33:03.700 there

00:33:03.880 there

00:33:03.900 are

00:33:04.080 you

00:33:04.220 know

00:33:04.340 records

00:33:04.740 of

00:33:05.020 basically

00:33:05.720 every

00:33:06.600 European

00:33:06.980 nation

00:33:08.040 that was

00:33:08.520 Christian

00:33:09.060 at the

00:33:09.500 time

00:33:09.820 coming

00:33:10.520 to

00:33:10.780 crusade

00:33:11.200 here

00:33:11.520 and

00:33:11.920 you

00:33:12.200 know

00:33:12.340 they

00:33:12.580 all

00:33:12.780 failed

00:33:13.200 you know

00:33:15.540 it

00:33:15.860 that's

00:33:16.300 interesting

00:33:16.960 that's

00:33:17.520 interesting

00:33:18.100 because

00:33:18.480 from what

00:33:19.720 I remember

00:33:20.340 in

00:33:21.080 the 12th

00:33:21.840 century

00:33:22.280 Estonia

00:33:23.960 did get

00:33:24.540 subdued

00:33:25.180 by a

00:33:27.080 certain

00:33:27.360 nation

00:33:27.820 yeah

00:33:28.720 they

00:33:29.000 were

00:33:29.880 subdued

00:33:30.540 by the

00:33:30.880 Danes

00:33:31.380 yeah

00:33:31.740 they were

00:33:32.560 well I

00:33:33.380 mean

00:33:33.540 what can

00:33:34.000 you expect

00:33:34.440 is that

00:33:35.460 the point

00:33:35.760 in history

00:33:36.140 where God

00:33:36.720 reached down

00:33:37.380 and handed

00:33:37.840 Denmark

00:33:38.200 the Danneborg

00:33:38.860 well

00:33:40.440 it is

00:33:41.780 that is

00:33:42.300 actually a fact

00:33:42.940 I mean

00:33:43.680 listen

00:33:44.200 Denmark

00:33:45.580 was given

00:33:46.060 Danneborg

00:33:46.520 at a

00:33:47.060 great battle

00:33:47.940 against the

00:33:48.820 unwashed

00:33:50.080 Estonian

00:33:50.720 hordes

00:33:51.460 of barbarism

00:33:52.380 and of course

00:33:53.200 we were given

00:33:53.780 this one true

00:33:54.660 banner by God

00:33:55.700 can I

00:33:58.280 comment that

00:33:58.880 please

00:34:00.000 no

00:34:00.420 I mean

00:34:00.940 this

00:34:01.420 no shut up 0.53

00:34:02.220 this is a

00:34:02.660 clear example

00:34:03.580 of Danish

00:34:04.840 revisionism

00:34:06.580 oh

00:34:07.360 here we go

00:34:08.540 Danish

00:34:09.180 revisionism

00:34:10.000 is that

00:34:11.700 the Lithuanians

00:34:12.700 the Lithuanians

00:34:14.460 were like

00:34:14.820 like a thousand

00:34:15.300 people

00:34:15.540 you had like

00:34:15.860 three thousand

00:34:16.340 you're like

00:34:16.660 outnumbering

00:34:17.220 three to one

00:34:17.780 so of course

00:34:18.280 you win

00:34:18.680 and then you

00:34:19.500 brag about

00:34:20.040 that oh

00:34:20.420 we beat up

00:34:21.120 some pagans

00:34:22.780 in the balkers 0.94

00:34:23.240 look how great

00:34:24.600 we are

00:34:25.080 numbered one

00:34:25.880 to four

00:34:26.880 no

00:34:27.640 that's

00:34:28.760 Danish

00:34:29.240 revisionism

00:34:29.840 I refuse

00:34:30.680 to believe

00:34:31.260 that

00:34:31.560 listen

00:34:32.200 next time

00:34:32.820 he's going

00:34:33.120 to deny

00:34:33.560 the battle

00:34:34.000 of curbe

00:34:34.600 and then

00:34:35.300 he's going

00:34:35.560 to say

00:34:35.860 oh

00:34:36.260 but

00:34:36.700 battle

00:34:37.760 of

00:34:38.000 listen

00:34:38.600 that never

00:34:39.220 happened

00:34:39.640 and you

00:34:40.060 know it

00:34:40.580 oh the battle

00:34:41.720 of curbe

00:34:42.080 that didn't

00:34:43.080 happen

00:34:43.360 I agree

00:34:44.380 with you

00:34:44.640 Matt

00:34:44.860 well I

00:34:46.140 think

00:34:46.320 that

00:34:46.520 let's

00:34:48.360 go back

00:34:48.700 to the

00:34:49.300 exactly

00:34:49.720 let's

00:34:50.160 ignore

00:34:50.660 this

00:34:51.160 petty 0.66

00:34:52.200 bourgeois

00:34:53.760 chauvinism

00:34:54.660 get back

00:34:55.620 to the

00:34:55.960 Swedish

00:34:56.360 delusions

00:34:57.820 let's ignore

00:34:58.440 them

00:34:58.680 let's continue

00:34:59.340 yes exactly

00:34:59.760 Danish

00:35:00.760 or more

00:35:01.200 bourgeois

00:35:01.520 sweets

00:35:03.520 order

00:35:04.880 order

00:35:05.460 in the

00:35:05.720 podcast

00:35:06.000 please

00:35:06.460 now

00:35:07.600 returning

00:35:08.280 to

00:35:08.600 our

00:35:09.220 esteemed

00:35:09.640 guests

00:35:10.020 so

00:35:10.600 it's

00:35:11.280 very

00:35:11.500 fascinating

00:35:11.960 it certainly

00:35:13.240 puts a lot

00:35:13.840 of things

00:35:14.320 as far as

00:35:15.400 the history

00:35:15.900 of the

00:35:16.160 baltic

00:35:16.440 states

00:35:16.820 in a

00:35:17.200 perspective

00:35:17.700 and there

00:35:18.880 are some

00:35:19.220 things here

00:35:19.560 that I

00:35:19.820 want to

00:35:20.260 come back

00:35:20.660 to

00:35:20.860 but I

00:35:21.780 think

00:35:22.000 that

00:35:22.280 moving on

00:35:23.400 and kind

00:35:23.660 of the

00:35:24.020 structure

00:35:24.440 how receptive

00:35:26.520 would you

00:35:26.920 say like

00:35:27.540 the everyday

00:35:28.280 Lithuanian

00:35:28.960 is to

00:35:29.680 nationalism

00:35:30.240 or the

00:35:30.820 culture

00:35:31.100 at large

00:35:31.640 is there

00:35:32.100 like a

00:35:32.460 strong

00:35:32.920 sense of

00:35:33.480 national

00:35:33.860 identity

00:35:34.260 and fraternity

00:35:35.020 within

00:35:35.340 like the

00:35:36.680 average

00:35:37.340 Lithuanian

00:35:37.940 and is

00:35:38.780 there a

00:35:39.120 strong

00:35:39.480 divide

00:35:39.880 between

00:35:40.340 urban

00:35:40.960 and rural

00:35:41.640 populations

00:35:42.320 as far

00:35:42.760 as their

00:35:43.000 identity

00:35:43.360 and attitudes

00:35:43.940 yeah

00:35:47.560 I guess

00:35:48.900 if you

00:35:49.360 would

00:35:49.540 compare

00:35:50.140 generic

00:35:52.800 Lithuanian

00:35:53.400 to a

00:35:53.780 generic

00:35:54.040 Westerner

00:35:54.640 you

00:35:55.240 people

00:35:56.080 would say

00:35:56.960 we are

00:35:57.320 very

00:35:57.600 nationalist

00:35:58.180 like

00:35:59.000 naturally

00:35:59.600 inherently

00:36:00.460 but

00:36:01.500 yeah it

00:36:03.220 all depends

00:36:03.780 on circumstances

00:36:04.640 here because

00:36:05.520 urban people

00:36:06.820 are

00:36:07.800 very liberal

00:36:09.200 and it

00:36:09.820 comes from

00:36:10.860 the

00:36:13.280 inferiority

00:36:14.620 complex

00:36:15.120 they possess

00:36:15.620 because

00:36:16.480 yeah this

00:36:17.640 is

00:36:17.920 this is

00:36:18.640 basically

00:36:19.380 a remnant

00:36:20.100 of

00:36:20.400 Sovietism 0.77

00:36:21.560 we have

00:36:23.040 people

00:36:24.280 most

00:36:25.580 people

00:36:26.100 automatically

00:36:27.920 assume

00:36:28.580 that

00:36:28.940 everything

00:36:30.020 that comes

00:36:30.580 from the

00:36:30.940 West

00:36:31.180 is better

00:36:31.740 than things

00:36:32.780 that come

00:36:33.160 from the

00:36:33.560 East

00:36:33.820 and

00:36:34.120 yeah that's

00:36:34.900 that

00:36:35.180 urban

00:36:37.620 people do

00:36:38.240 not question

00:36:38.960 politics

00:36:41.360 if

00:36:42.520 if you

00:36:43.500 know

00:36:43.760 Westerners

00:36:44.540 say that

00:36:45.020 these things

00:36:45.700 are progressive

00:36:46.320 and you

00:36:46.960 should be

00:36:47.280 progressive

00:36:47.740 it's cool

00:36:48.540 so yeah

00:36:49.420 they follow

00:36:50.080 that

00:36:50.440 and

00:36:51.260 people

00:36:53.200 from

00:36:53.940 from the

00:36:55.180 province

00:36:55.700 are still

00:36:58.180 very much

00:36:58.960 nationalist

00:37:01.240 and it

00:37:03.420 it reflects

00:37:04.040 in our

00:37:04.620 election

00:37:06.800 parliamentary

00:37:07.440 parliamentary

00:37:08.500 election

00:37:09.120 that

00:37:09.940 happened

00:37:10.920 recently

00:37:11.680 a relatively

00:37:14.120 new political

00:37:14.780 force

00:37:15.220 won the

00:37:15.680 election

00:37:15.980 by a

00:37:16.320 landslide

00:37:16.820 peasant

00:37:19.300 greens

00:37:19.960 as they

00:37:21.100 are called

00:37:21.620 they are

00:37:22.280 these mild

00:37:23.500 right-wing

00:37:24.140 populists

00:37:25.020 their ideology

00:37:27.160 is based

00:37:28.360 on

00:37:28.720 you know

00:37:29.960 I'd say

00:37:32.540 Christian values

00:37:33.420 but they

00:37:33.900 are

00:37:34.180 not

00:37:36.900 not that

00:37:38.020 much

00:37:38.360 enforced

00:37:38.900 they

00:37:40.240 they are

00:37:40.640 just a

00:37:41.080 better

00:37:41.260 version

00:37:41.600 of

00:37:41.900 the

00:37:42.280 conservatives

00:37:42.800 themselves

00:37:43.480 because

00:37:43.920 conservatives

00:37:44.440 are

00:37:46.320 timid

00:37:46.740 timid

00:37:48.380 bourgeois 0.96

00:37:48.700 Christians

00:37:49.180 then

00:37:49.480 yeah

00:37:51.360 kind of

00:37:51.980 yeah

00:37:52.220 so

00:37:52.600 so yeah

00:37:53.240 they won

00:37:53.920 the elections

00:37:54.480 and the

00:37:55.300 urban people

00:37:55.980 are furious

00:37:56.740 about this

00:37:57.420 because urban

00:37:58.140 people

00:37:58.640 voted

00:37:59.820 either

00:38:01.060 conservative

00:38:01.660 or liberal

00:38:02.420 and you know

00:38:03.620 they lost

00:38:04.400 so they

00:38:05.480 are all

00:38:05.860 crying about

00:38:06.720 Lithuania

00:38:07.680 returning to

00:38:08.780 the stone

00:38:09.180 age

00:38:09.500 because the

00:38:10.980 the peasant

00:38:11.980 greens

00:38:12.440 are talking

00:38:13.380 about

00:38:13.840 you know

00:38:15.320 how they

00:38:15.720 disliked

00:38:16.240 abortion

00:38:16.660 and

00:38:17.760 trying to

00:38:19.900 raise

00:38:20.660 alcohol prices

00:38:21.740 to fight

00:38:22.320 alcoholism

00:38:23.100 it's funny

00:38:23.700 yeah

00:38:24.280 so the

00:38:25.000 liberals

00:38:25.240 are mad

00:38:26.040 it's funny

00:38:27.700 whenever you

00:38:28.440 see someone

00:38:29.260 actually

00:38:29.640 finally taking

00:38:30.560 the boot

00:38:30.980 and stamping

00:38:31.860 on the throat 0.79

00:38:32.720 of liberal

00:38:33.840 decadence

00:38:34.380 you always

00:38:35.640 hear them

00:38:36.100 screaming 0.51

00:38:36.740 and pissing 0.76

00:38:37.640 and moaning 0.96

00:38:38.300 about

00:38:38.880 are you gonna

00:38:39.640 send us

00:38:40.120 back to

00:38:40.640 the stone

00:38:41.360 age 1.00

00:38:41.820 it's fucking 1.00

00:38:44.120 laughable 1.00

00:38:44.860 it's pathetic 0.99

00:38:45.780 and it's 1.00

00:38:47.400 always like

00:38:48.140 this

00:38:48.300 this constant

00:38:49.220 bitching and 1.00

00:38:50.260 moaning from

00:38:50.640 the left

00:38:50.940 because they

00:38:51.380 are essentially

00:38:51.860 the cultural

00:38:52.600 war on

00:38:53.460 behalf of

00:38:53.920 the left

00:38:54.340 has now

00:38:54.920 officially

00:38:55.480 they've

00:38:55.840 lost

00:38:56.280 right

00:38:57.060 they decided

00:38:58.140 to

00:38:58.600 to go ahead

00:38:59.760 and alienate

00:39:00.700 people

00:39:01.100 right

00:39:01.380 now I'm

00:39:02.920 just talking

00:39:03.420 about the

00:39:03.700 entirety of

00:39:04.220 the establishment

00:39:04.700 I'm not

00:39:05.020 really sure

00:39:05.540 how bad

00:39:06.080 it is

00:39:06.360 in your

00:39:06.620 fatherlands

00:39:07.260 here

00:39:07.580 but the

00:39:09.520 whole aspect

00:39:10.460 of them

00:39:11.440 constantly

00:39:12.180 pampering

00:39:13.160 to the

00:39:13.960 individuality

00:39:15.360 the petty

00:39:17.100 individuality

00:39:18.600 of

00:39:19.180 rectal

00:39:20.080 warriors

00:39:20.760 it's just

00:39:22.800 kind of

00:39:23.180 alienated

00:39:23.700 people

00:39:24.040 and people

00:39:24.740 are not

00:39:25.980 willing

00:39:26.580 and I say

00:39:27.320 again

00:39:27.500 not willing

00:39:28.460 to play

00:39:28.920 patty cakes

00:39:29.640 with the

00:39:30.440 notions

00:39:31.200 of

00:39:31.560 complete

00:39:32.080 spiritual

00:39:32.780 decadence

00:39:33.480 which is

00:39:34.560 now left

00:39:35.160 the left

00:39:36.280 wing

00:39:36.640 in the

00:39:37.020 cultural

00:39:37.420 sense

00:39:37.900 you know

00:39:38.600 whipped

00:39:39.660 they are

00:39:40.620 left with 0.72

00:39:41.360 erectile

00:39:41.900 dysfunction

00:39:42.340 they are

00:39:42.840 impotent

00:39:43.500 now

00:39:43.840 and they

00:39:44.640 will stay

00:39:45.140 like that

00:39:45.480 because people

00:39:45.940 have seen

00:39:46.280 through it

00:39:46.700 and it

00:39:46.940 has been

00:39:47.240 addressed

00:39:47.720 people

00:39:48.360 constantly

00:39:48.960 refer to

00:39:50.000 feminists

00:39:50.580 for an

00:39:50.900 example

00:39:51.220 as

00:39:51.520 nothing

00:39:52.120 more

00:39:52.480 as

00:39:52.860 petty 0.98

00:39:53.680 crybabies 0.96

00:39:55.280 that's

00:39:55.660 the

00:39:55.820 culture

00:39:56.140 we live

00:39:56.480 in

00:39:56.620 and I'm

00:39:57.400 pretty sure

00:39:57.800 that

00:39:58.040 Lithuania

00:39:58.800 is less

00:40:01.080 culturally

00:40:02.620 passed

00:40:03.160 than

00:40:03.460 most of

00:40:04.240 Scandinavia

00:40:04.780 but

00:40:05.340 you know

00:40:05.940 it's just

00:40:06.400 interesting

00:40:06.940 how has

00:40:07.600 this actually

00:40:08.000 played out

00:40:08.500 in Lithuania

00:40:09.540 this is my

00:40:10.920 question

00:40:11.280 what's the

00:40:12.140 level of

00:40:12.720 cultural

00:40:13.280 Marxism

00:40:13.740 and cultural

00:40:14.260 degeneration

00:40:14.780 that you

00:40:15.380 know

00:40:15.540 we see in

00:40:16.560 Lithuania

00:40:16.940 you mentioned

00:40:17.500 that abortion 1.00

00:40:18.040 is legal

00:40:18.520 but how

00:40:18.880 about things

00:40:19.280 like 0.92

00:40:19.640 fag marriage 1.00

00:40:20.740 and other 0.97

00:40:21.120 big

00:40:21.520 you know 1.00

00:40:22.040 faggot 1.00

00:40:22.760 right movements 1.00

00:40:23.380 in the cities

00:40:24.320 and stuff

00:40:24.680 like this

00:40:25.200 yeah

00:40:26.600 thank you

00:40:27.080 for the

00:40:27.460 question

00:40:27.820 yeah

00:40:28.200 I was

00:40:28.580 going to

00:40:28.920 mention

00:40:29.140 it

00:40:29.320 myself

00:40:29.720 it's

00:40:33.420 it's

00:40:33.620 very funny

00:40:34.220 this

00:40:34.700 this thing

00:40:35.340 with

00:40:35.640 LGBT

00:40:36.380 movement

00:40:36.900 because

00:40:37.740 here

00:40:38.240 apparently

00:40:39.120 the

00:40:39.560 you know

00:40:39.920 the

00:40:40.160 chosen

00:40:40.640 people

00:40:41.040 are not

00:40:41.460 even

00:40:41.660 trying

00:40:41.960 to hide

00:40:42.380 anything

00:40:42.760 we have

00:40:43.840 embassy

00:40:44.920 of Israel

00:40:45.700 financing

00:40:46.760 the movement

00:40:47.480 openly

00:40:48.080 and

00:40:48.840 really

00:40:50.580 I mean

00:40:52.460 yeah

00:40:52.780 they do

00:40:54.220 not hide

00:40:54.580 it at

00:40:54.800 all

00:40:55.000 I mean

00:40:55.360 all

00:40:55.640 newspapers

00:40:56.080 cover it

00:40:56.880 that you

00:40:57.520 know

00:40:57.700 the LGBT

00:40:58.380 march

00:40:58.900 in Vilnius

00:40:59.640 Baltic

00:41:01.180 Pride

00:41:01.480 was

00:41:02.180 financed

00:41:02.760 by

00:41:03.020 embassies

00:41:03.540 of

00:41:03.840 United

00:41:04.540 States

00:41:04.980 of

00:41:05.180 America

00:41:05.580 Israel

00:41:06.160 Germany

00:41:07.200 and

00:41:07.780 Netherlands

00:41:08.880 you have

00:41:09.880 you have

00:41:09.900 all these

00:41:10.720 embassies

00:41:11.240 of foreign

00:41:11.720 countries

00:41:12.240 that you

00:41:13.040 know

00:41:13.240 basically

00:41:13.800 finance

00:41:14.700 the leftist

00:41:15.800 movements

00:41:16.260 and they

00:41:17.460 are not

00:41:17.800 hiding it

00:41:18.440 and I

00:41:19.000 think

00:41:19.280 this is

00:41:21.000 the reason

00:41:21.460 why they

00:41:22.020 lost the

00:41:22.520 election

00:41:22.820 and why

00:41:23.720 from now on

00:41:24.620 they will keep

00:41:25.360 losing more

00:41:26.220 and more

00:41:26.560 because they

00:41:27.340 started

00:41:28.140 importing

00:41:29.280 this

00:41:30.060 Trotskyist

00:41:31.680 leftism

00:41:32.340 from the

00:41:32.760 West

00:41:32.980 this Tumblr

00:41:33.820 tear

00:41:34.240 feminism 0.99

00:41:35.100 and gay

00:41:35.720 rights

00:41:36.140 too soon

00:41:37.260 because they

00:41:37.960 do not have

00:41:38.540 the base

00:41:39.100 support

00:41:39.600 for

00:41:40.120 socialist

00:41:41.940 ideas

00:41:42.560 here

00:41:42.880 so they

00:41:43.560 have no

00:41:44.000 support

00:41:44.480 for

00:41:45.140 socialism

00:41:45.940 as

00:41:46.420 you know

00:41:47.420 as the

00:41:48.100 trademark

00:41:48.860 workers

00:41:50.140 movement

00:41:50.700 yeah

00:41:51.140 and

00:41:51.620 they do

00:41:52.440 not have

00:41:52.740 that support

00:41:53.360 and they

00:41:53.740 started

00:41:54.100 going into

00:41:55.620 the

00:41:55.980 Tumblr

00:41:56.540 tear

00:41:56.780 things

00:41:57.240 so

00:41:57.640 it's

00:41:58.760 their

00:41:59.920 suicide

00:42:00.640 I mean

00:42:01.140 I don't

00:42:01.960 get

00:42:02.220 what are

00:42:03.360 they

00:42:03.560 thinking

00:42:03.960 doing

00:42:04.720 this

00:42:05.060 you know

00:42:06.020 there's

00:42:07.780 no hope

00:42:08.180 for them

00:42:08.640 they have

00:42:09.440 no support

00:42:10.140 Lithuanians

00:42:11.000 now will

00:42:11.500 either

00:42:11.840 vote

00:42:12.560 this

00:42:13.600 mild

00:42:14.500 right wing

00:42:15.180 populist

00:42:16.120 party

00:42:16.900 or some

00:42:18.040 other

00:42:18.500 well

00:42:20.000 more liberal

00:42:20.760 party

00:42:21.200 but there's

00:42:21.680 no

00:42:21.880 there's

00:42:22.260 no way

00:42:22.560 they will

00:42:22.980 vote

00:42:23.340 any

00:42:24.860 sort of

00:42:25.460 leftists

00:42:26.060 into power

00:42:26.760 then again

00:42:28.560 all the

00:42:28.940 liberal

00:42:29.160 parties

00:42:29.680 are still

00:42:30.300 very much

00:42:30.920 very weak

00:42:33.940 in

00:42:34.740 european

00:42:35.840 politics

00:42:36.340 and

00:42:36.760 they are

00:42:38.140 easy

00:42:38.580 for

00:42:39.480 brussels

00:42:40.180 to

00:42:40.680 manipulate

00:42:41.320 them

00:42:41.820 so

00:42:42.440 you know

00:42:42.920 our

00:42:43.600 politicians

00:42:44.080 no matter

00:42:44.760 the party

00:42:45.400 they all

00:42:46.320 bend

00:42:47.220 the knee

00:42:48.520 to

00:42:49.380 european

00:42:51.040 union

00:42:52.120 politics

00:42:53.120 and they

00:42:53.680 will all

00:42:54.340 accept

00:42:54.780 all the

00:42:55.560 orders

00:42:56.440 from brussels

00:42:57.100 so yeah

00:42:57.580 that's sad

00:42:58.180 but the

00:42:59.260 people

00:42:59.580 themselves

00:42:59.980 are starting

00:43:00.660 to realize

00:43:01.540 how

00:43:02.080 you know

00:43:03.400 this

00:43:03.660 trotskyism

00:43:04.440 is

00:43:05.440 how it's

00:43:07.260 cancerous

00:43:07.880 and

00:43:08.180 what we

00:43:11.060 need now

00:43:11.520 is a

00:43:12.620 political

00:43:13.720 force

00:43:14.320 that would

00:43:14.800 put

00:43:15.100 the

00:43:15.700 thoughts

00:43:17.660 of the

00:43:18.100 people

00:43:18.440 into

00:43:19.440 political

00:43:19.900 action

00:43:20.320 because

00:43:20.800 we have

00:43:21.440 a growing

00:43:23.000 mass of

00:43:23.480 lithuanians

00:43:24.200 that want

00:43:24.820 to resist

00:43:25.320 this

00:43:25.860 western

00:43:26.680 trotskyism

00:43:27.440 coming here

00:43:28.480 but there's

00:43:29.260 no political

00:43:29.720 platform

00:43:30.200 for them

00:43:30.780 to rely

00:43:32.080 on to

00:43:32.580 do that

00:43:33.020 because

00:43:33.580 all political

00:43:34.320 parties

00:43:34.720 are liberal

00:43:35.420 yeah

00:43:37.440 now

00:43:37.820 here it

00:43:39.460 comes

00:43:39.920 can I

00:43:40.800 I'm gonna

00:43:41.460 come with

00:43:41.860 a quick

00:43:42.360 little

00:43:42.640 remark

00:43:43.160 that

00:43:44.020 there's

00:43:44.340 really one

00:43:45.040 thing

00:43:45.360 that you

00:43:45.660 have to

00:43:45.900 be careful

00:43:46.380 of

00:43:46.680 because

00:43:47.160 homosexuality 0.87

00:43:49.020 pro 0.96

00:43:49.880 sodomy

00:43:50.780 is inherently

00:43:52.280 a part

00:43:53.560 of left

00:43:54.360 wing

00:43:54.680 dogma

00:43:55.440 homosexuality 0.87

00:43:57.180 is essentially 0.91

00:43:58.540 the antiphysis

00:44:00.140 and the

00:44:00.900 very notion

00:44:02.040 against the

00:44:02.920 idea

00:44:03.360 of

00:44:04.060 nation

00:44:04.800 when that

00:44:06.900 is being

00:44:07.280 mentioned

00:44:07.700 any

00:44:08.380 party

00:44:09.120 any

00:44:09.960 political

00:44:10.400 platform

00:44:10.980 that you

00:44:11.260 might have

00:44:11.720 that is

00:44:12.160 not

00:44:12.640 addressing

00:44:13.300 and

00:44:14.120 distancing

00:44:14.820 themselves

00:44:15.620 from

00:44:16.440 sodomites

00:44:17.340 retal 0.97

00:44:18.460 warriors

00:44:19.200 spreaders

00:44:20.300 of

00:44:20.620 disease

00:44:21.180 and

00:44:21.660 venom

00:44:22.160 any

00:44:23.540 party

00:44:23.960 that is

00:44:24.280 not

00:44:24.540 willing

00:44:25.020 to

00:44:25.580 actually

00:44:25.900 inherently

00:44:26.500 call out

00:44:27.560 this

00:44:27.780 dysfunction

00:44:28.380 and

00:44:29.180 reject it

00:44:29.960 with

00:44:30.340 such

00:44:30.820 fierce

00:44:31.540 ferocity

00:44:32.440 and

00:44:32.940 force

00:44:33.520 they are

00:44:34.460 indirectly

00:44:35.820 without them

00:44:36.540 knowing or not

00:44:37.360 they are

00:44:38.100 indirectly

00:44:38.880 helping with

00:44:39.780 the

00:44:39.920 undermination

00:44:40.660 of the

00:44:41.760 fatherland

00:44:42.340 and therefore

00:44:43.220 they are

00:44:43.720 not to be

00:44:44.560 trusted by

00:44:45.100 any means

00:44:46.060 and I say

00:44:46.520 again

00:44:46.820 any means

00:44:47.820 whatsoever

00:44:48.600 with that

00:44:50.480 out of

00:44:50.780 the way

00:44:51.120 I want

00:44:52.060 you

00:44:52.340 comrades

00:44:53.600 from

00:44:54.000 Lithuania

00:44:55.420 to really

00:44:56.140 take this

00:44:56.520 into

00:44:56.720 consideration

00:44:57.220 and once

00:44:58.180 again

00:44:58.420 realize

00:44:59.220 and point

00:45:00.060 a finger

00:45:00.540 at the

00:45:00.900 parliamentarian

00:45:01.640 weaklings

00:45:02.400 for not

00:45:03.660 having the

00:45:04.120 will

00:45:04.460 no wits

00:45:05.440 to actually

00:45:06.100 deal with

00:45:06.860 the

00:45:07.140 inherent

00:45:08.300 cultural

00:45:08.960 Marxism

00:45:09.680 that is

00:45:10.020 running away

00:45:11.040 at our

00:45:11.660 fatherland's

00:45:12.360 integrity

00:45:12.860 yes

00:45:14.960 exactly

00:45:15.560 yeah

00:45:16.460 and

00:45:17.040 it's already

00:45:18.420 happening

00:45:19.000 that's why

00:45:19.920 the

00:45:20.240 conservatives

00:45:21.120 lost

00:45:21.680 because

00:45:22.160 a week

00:45:23.840 before the

00:45:25.040 election

00:45:25.360 their leader

00:45:25.880 said that

00:45:26.560 he would

00:45:27.300 consider

00:45:27.840 legalizing

00:45:29.020 same-sex

00:45:29.580 marriage

00:45:30.000 and you

00:45:30.980 know

00:45:31.200 the

00:45:31.500 populist

00:45:32.460 party

00:45:32.900 was

00:45:33.220 against

00:45:34.420 it

00:45:34.960 and you

00:45:35.760 know

00:45:36.280 they

00:45:37.280 shot 0.55

00:45:37.800 themselves

00:45:38.220 in the

00:45:38.540 foot

00:45:38.760 and

00:45:39.620 of course

00:45:41.080 we agree

00:45:41.560 even though

00:45:42.240 we're not

00:45:42.920 Christian

00:45:43.300 here

00:45:43.560 in Lithuania

00:45:45.700 but

00:45:46.560 yeah

00:45:48.180 but

00:45:49.180 we

00:45:50.100 wholeheartedly

00:45:51.220 agree

00:45:53.240 with these

00:45:54.240 moral values

00:45:55.820 you have

00:45:56.280 of course

00:45:56.920 there's no

00:45:57.460 discussion

00:45:58.080 about it

00:45:59.800 yes

00:46:00.260 perhaps

00:46:00.620 we'll get

00:46:00.960 to the

00:46:01.280 religious

00:46:01.980 issue

00:46:02.400 later

00:46:02.720 but

00:46:03.260 so

00:46:04.640 has

00:46:05.080 Lithuania

00:46:05.580 been

00:46:05.880 seriously

00:46:06.320 infected

00:46:06.900 is perhaps

00:46:08.360 the best

00:46:08.980 word

00:46:09.280 by the

00:46:10.240 migrant

00:46:12.080 invasion

00:46:12.600 like

00:46:13.380 there

00:46:13.680 are

00:46:13.780 a lot

00:46:13.940 of

00:46:14.040 brown

00:46:14.220 people 0.72

00:46:14.460 flooding

00:46:14.740 in

00:46:14.920 or

00:46:15.060 has

00:46:15.200 it

00:46:15.260 been

00:46:15.380 mostly

00:46:15.620 insulated

00:46:16.100 the

00:46:19.340 European

00:46:19.740 Union

00:46:20.300 made

00:46:22.500 us

00:46:22.880 taken

00:46:24.000 approximately

00:46:24.940 a thousand

00:46:26.340 refugees

00:46:27.180 not

00:46:28.700 yet

00:46:29.220 all of

00:46:29.860 them

00:46:30.120 arrived

00:46:30.760 I think

00:46:31.740 only a

00:46:32.460 small

00:46:32.720 fraction

00:46:33.100 of the

00:46:33.400 number

00:46:33.600 arrived

00:46:34.100 but

00:46:34.720 what

00:46:35.040 happens

00:46:35.680 is

00:46:36.300 that

00:46:36.640 they

00:46:37.420 go to

00:46:38.220 a refugee

00:46:38.820 center

00:46:39.260 we only

00:46:39.880 have one

00:46:40.440 refugee

00:46:40.800 center

00:46:41.160 in the

00:46:41.480 country

00:46:41.840 it's

00:46:42.980 in the

00:46:44.720 countryside

00:46:45.200 it's

00:46:45.740 it's

00:46:45.920 basically

00:46:46.320 a town

00:46:48.240 on itself

00:46:49.380 a village

00:46:51.220 for the

00:46:51.880 refugees

00:46:52.280 and

00:46:53.160 it's

00:46:54.420 it's

00:46:54.940 quite

00:46:55.260 it's

00:46:55.820 quite

00:46:56.220 horrible

00:46:56.820 not what

00:46:57.560 you would

00:46:58.000 have in

00:46:58.460 the west

00:46:58.920 it's

00:46:59.680 under

00:47:00.060 financed

00:47:00.760 they do

00:47:02.240 not have

00:47:02.700 all the

00:47:03.080 privileges

00:47:03.560 the refugees

00:47:04.880 have in

00:47:05.400 the west

00:47:05.780 and what

00:47:06.400 happens is

00:47:07.060 the refugees

00:47:08.140 that come

00:47:08.600 here

00:47:08.900 they

00:47:09.780 stay

00:47:10.600 the

00:47:11.740 obligatory

00:47:12.340 amount

00:47:12.660 of time

00:47:13.200 in the

00:47:13.760 refugee

00:47:14.000 center

00:47:14.420 and then

00:47:15.080 they go

00:47:15.380 west

00:47:15.780 to Sweden

00:47:16.740 and Germany

00:47:17.500 so this

00:47:19.380 refugee crisis

00:47:20.440 does not

00:47:21.920 affect us

00:47:22.460 really

00:47:22.820 only

00:47:24.740 in the

00:47:26.820 symbolic sense

00:47:27.540 that our

00:47:27.900 politicians

00:47:28.380 are very 0.99

00:47:29.520 weak

00:47:29.880 and they

00:47:30.760 agree

00:47:31.740 to bend

00:47:32.660 the knee

00:47:32.980 to the

00:47:33.720 European

00:47:34.320 Union

00:47:34.660 politics

00:47:35.360 to the

00:47:36.340 Trotskyist

00:47:36.980 orders

00:47:37.440 of taking

00:47:38.360 them

00:47:38.580 in

00:47:38.840 yeah

00:47:39.260 yeah

00:47:40.080 well that's

00:47:40.620 good to hear

00:47:41.020 that the

00:47:41.360 country has

00:47:41.800 not been

00:47:42.860 seriously

00:47:43.220 demographically

00:47:43.920 shifted

00:47:44.300 by

00:47:44.660 please go

00:47:47.860 ahead

00:47:48.060 yeah I got

00:47:49.320 a quick

00:47:49.640 question

00:47:50.060 how urban

00:47:51.120 is Lithuania

00:47:51.800 because in

00:47:52.780 Sweden

00:47:53.100 we have

00:47:54.640 85% of

00:47:55.800 our population

00:47:56.340 are urbanites

00:47:57.540 85%

00:47:58.820 so I wonder

00:48:01.480 maybe

00:48:02.220 maybe there's a

00:48:02.740 connection here

00:48:03.400 between you know

00:48:04.120 urbanites and

00:48:05.160 this fanatic

00:48:05.900 liberalism

00:48:07.240 so how much

00:48:08.840 is this

00:48:09.100 Lithuania

00:48:09.500 I do not

00:48:10.760 remember the

00:48:11.400 numbers but

00:48:12.120 Lithuania is

00:48:13.500 quite urbanized

00:48:14.420 you know

00:48:14.860 all of the

00:48:16.440 Soviet

00:48:17.200 occupied space

00:48:18.980 had forced

00:48:19.940 urbanization

00:48:20.520 programs

00:48:21.120 as you may

00:48:21.960 know

00:48:22.220 so

00:48:23.200 I don't

00:48:25.540 know

00:48:25.740 I would say

00:48:27.840 it's not so

00:48:28.860 much to do

00:48:29.340 with

00:48:29.620 urbanization

00:48:31.420 oh yeah

00:48:32.340 Kazimera is 0.51

00:48:34.520 here

00:48:34.720 googled it

00:48:35.640 and 66%

00:48:36.880 of the

00:48:38.100 population

00:48:38.540 live in

00:48:39.180 cities

00:48:39.540 so that's

00:48:40.880 less than

00:48:41.600 yeah that's

00:48:43.160 still a large

00:48:43.580 difference

00:48:44.080 I mean but

00:48:44.860 you know we

00:48:45.360 still have the

00:48:46.360 Israeli ambassador

00:48:47.420 going on

00:48:48.120 pride race and

00:48:48.820 that stuff

00:48:49.280 but

00:48:49.580 yeah

00:48:50.340 yeah but

00:48:51.600 I don't

00:48:52.300 think

00:48:52.520 that's

00:48:53.180 that's an

00:48:55.680 important

00:48:56.020 factor

00:48:56.540 because

00:48:57.180 the cities

00:48:59.420 that vote

00:49:00.960 for liberals

00:49:01.580 have a

00:49:03.300 history

00:49:03.760 of being

00:49:04.640 multicultural

00:49:06.440 cities

00:49:07.060 like Vilnius

00:49:07.740 you know

00:49:08.020 the capital

00:49:08.780 in

00:49:12.260 in medieval

00:49:14.900 times and

00:49:15.780 times before

00:49:17.240 that it

00:49:17.720 was a

00:49:18.500 Lithuanian

00:49:19.100 heartland

00:49:20.240 inhabited by

00:49:21.240 ethnic

00:49:21.580 Lithuanians

00:49:22.180 but because

00:49:23.320 of

00:49:23.760 racification

00:49:25.080 and

00:49:25.560 colonization

00:49:26.080 policies by

00:49:27.040 Poles and

00:49:27.920 Russians

00:49:28.320 Lithuanians

00:49:30.160 were

00:49:30.880 assimilated

00:49:31.520 either

00:49:32.120 assimilated

00:49:32.600 or migrated

00:49:33.680 out of the

00:49:34.280 region

00:49:34.520 and the

00:49:35.800 region was

00:49:36.580 left heavily

00:49:37.520 Slavic

00:49:38.060 Lithuanians

00:49:39.560 comprised

00:49:40.560 at some

00:49:43.080 point in

00:49:43.660 19th century

00:49:44.920 according to

00:49:47.300 some Polish

00:49:48.160 statistics

00:49:48.820 a definition

00:49:49.660 question here

00:49:50.600 quickly I'm

00:49:51.220 sorry to

00:49:51.600 interrupt

00:49:52.000 now I

00:49:53.380 guess that in

00:49:54.160 terms of our

00:49:54.740 American listeners

00:49:55.700 and I'm not

00:49:56.400 sure if you

00:49:56.900 explained this

00:49:57.640 earlier but

00:49:58.480 in terms of

00:49:59.380 the ethnic

00:49:59.880 differences

00:50:00.500 how does

00:50:01.760 the Lithuanian

00:50:02.680 populace

00:50:03.300 view themselves

00:50:03.880 as

00:50:04.860 Finno-Hungarians 1.00

00:50:07.160 or Slavs

00:50:08.060 I don't

00:50:11.840 know the

00:50:12.160 differences

00:50:12.740 are huge

00:50:13.400 we are

00:50:14.420 Finno-Baltic

00:50:16.240 people

00:50:16.760 oh Baltic

00:50:18.640 okay okay

00:50:19.160 I'm not

00:50:21.560 sure about

00:50:22.020 these identities

00:50:23.000 in the sense

00:50:25.680 that well

00:50:26.560 I'm talking

00:50:28.900 racially

00:50:29.320 yeah I

00:50:30.320 I do not

00:50:30.760 know how

00:50:31.440 to put it

00:50:32.860 properly

00:50:33.300 so the

00:50:34.540 listeners would

00:50:35.060 understand

00:50:35.660 I guess I

00:50:36.680 should I

00:50:37.220 should be

00:50:37.520 talking about

00:50:38.060 phenotypes

00:50:38.660 right and

00:50:39.420 so

00:50:41.120 yeah so

00:50:43.880 Lithuanians

00:50:45.820 are

00:50:46.520 together with

00:50:49.040 Latvians

00:50:50.220 Estonians and

00:50:50.940 Finns in

00:50:51.660 terms of

00:50:52.120 their

00:50:52.420 yeah most

00:50:55.240 most common

00:50:56.560 appearance

00:50:57.160 so Baltic

00:50:58.240 perhaps would

00:50:58.820 be the best

00:50:59.240 way to

00:50:59.480 describe it

00:50:59.980 yeah the

00:51:01.060 four nations

00:51:01.680 yeah we

00:51:02.460 we basically

00:51:03.180 share blood

00:51:03.880 the four

00:51:05.560 Baltic nations

00:51:06.380 yeah and

00:51:07.300 the the

00:51:08.220 differences

00:51:08.680 between us

00:51:09.620 and Slavs

00:51:10.680 is is quite

00:51:11.760 remarkable

00:51:12.400 in in in

00:51:14.520 both genetics

00:51:15.300 and culture

00:51:15.920 okay so

00:51:17.680 very you know

00:51:18.880 racially

00:51:19.320 ethnically

00:51:19.800 distinct from

00:51:20.360 Slavs

00:51:21.360 culturally

00:51:21.960 distinct is

00:51:22.560 what we're

00:51:23.340 trying to

00:51:23.640 establish

00:51:24.040 that

00:51:24.320 I have

00:51:26.160 I have

00:51:26.440 actually once

00:51:27.040 met a

00:51:27.640 Estonian

00:51:28.460 girl at

00:51:29.000 a bar

00:51:29.480 and surprisingly

00:51:30.880 they look

00:51:31.740 very distinct

00:51:32.700 from you

00:51:33.440 know like

00:51:33.940 like Slavs 1.00

00:51:35.040 or Nords

00:51:36.080 or Germans 0.85

00:51:36.840 in this case

00:51:37.540 they do look

00:51:38.780 very particular

00:51:39.600 they have their

00:51:40.040 very own

00:51:40.660 unique aesthetic

00:51:41.980 if you will

00:51:42.560 like they're

00:51:43.740 to racially

00:51:44.760 classify them

00:51:45.520 is very

00:51:46.740 interesting because

00:51:47.440 they look very

00:51:48.320 foreign and

00:51:48.980 keep in mind

00:51:49.840 the Baltic

00:51:50.500 peoples are

00:51:51.240 very let's

00:51:52.640 just say

00:51:53.060 they're not

00:51:54.500 very many

00:51:55.000 of you guys

00:51:55.580 are there

00:51:56.000 there's not

00:51:56.640 that many

00:51:57.000 of you in

00:51:57.440 the world

00:51:57.840 sorry but

00:51:59.700 what are you

00:52:00.560 asking something

00:52:01.140 I didn't

00:52:03.760 it's okay

00:52:05.580 I'm just saying

00:52:06.400 that you

00:52:06.780 there's not a

00:52:07.640 lot of you guys

00:52:08.220 and you have

00:52:08.560 your own

00:52:08.900 very unique

00:52:09.580 aesthetic

00:52:10.000 that was what

00:52:10.680 I was saying

00:52:11.060 in terms of

00:52:11.520 racial aesthetics

00:52:12.340 oh yeah

00:52:13.120 yeah that

00:52:13.760 that is true

00:52:14.700 yes

00:52:15.200 most definitely

00:52:16.280 okay so

00:52:19.400 as far as

00:52:21.040 the sort

00:52:23.740 of Lithuanian

00:52:24.720 nationalism

00:52:25.680 idea goes

00:52:29.140 how does

00:52:29.740 that tie

00:52:30.180 into

00:52:30.660 relations

00:52:31.940 with the

00:52:32.520 west

00:52:32.800 and specifically

00:52:33.440 I'm referring

00:52:34.220 to NATO

00:52:34.940 like so

00:52:35.840 I understand

00:52:37.440 that your

00:52:38.320 identity is

00:52:39.000 kind of

00:52:39.500 opposed

00:52:40.400 to

00:52:41.220 to Russian

00:52:42.540 identity

00:52:43.060 because of

00:52:43.800 reasons of

00:52:44.380 history

00:52:44.660 very good

00:52:45.080 reasons

00:52:45.440 but it

00:52:46.740 seems like

00:52:47.700 a lot of

00:52:48.100 the news

00:52:48.380 we get here

00:52:48.960 in the west

00:52:49.560 is sort

00:52:50.180 of you know

00:52:51.480 NATO troops

00:52:52.800 going to

00:52:53.360 Lithuania

00:52:53.880 to you know

00:52:55.620 conduct military

00:52:57.280 exercises

00:52:57.820 obviously aimed

00:52:59.180 at antagonizing

00:52:59.900 Russia

00:53:00.280 and this

00:53:01.060 always strikes

00:53:01.600 me as a

00:53:02.160 deeply bad

00:53:03.440 idea

00:53:03.880 yeah I

00:53:06.540 completely

00:53:06.880 agree

00:53:07.240 and I

00:53:08.540 think it's

00:53:09.460 it's kind

00:53:10.700 of wrong to

00:53:11.180 say that our

00:53:11.700 identity is

00:53:12.620 is antagonized

00:53:14.380 with the

00:53:15.400 Russian identity

00:53:16.300 because I

00:53:19.040 don't think

00:53:19.640 there's any

00:53:21.360 that there

00:53:21.900 shouldn't be

00:53:22.560 at least any

00:53:23.540 chauvinism and

00:53:24.620 hatred towards

00:53:25.700 the Russian

00:53:27.020 people

00:53:27.580 however

00:53:28.340 Russian state

00:53:30.100 and their

00:53:31.640 politics have

00:53:32.560 been for a

00:53:33.900 long time

00:53:34.580 very

00:53:36.660 targeted

00:53:38.700 targeted

00:53:39.300 against us

00:53:40.140 and not

00:53:41.660 not friendly

00:53:42.240 at all

00:53:42.700 so

00:53:43.260 so there

00:53:45.260 are some

00:53:45.640 some fear

00:53:46.400 of

00:53:46.720 Russification 0.97

00:53:47.420 yeah well

00:53:50.100 it's

00:53:50.920 I don't know

00:53:51.980 how to put

00:53:52.460 it

00:53:52.680 we have a

00:53:54.420 very difficult

00:53:55.340 situation

00:53:55.920 because you

00:53:57.040 have liberals

00:53:57.880 fair mongering

00:53:59.360 every day

00:54:00.040 that if you

00:54:00.740 do not support

00:54:01.420 liberalism

00:54:02.360 and European

00:54:03.860 Union

00:54:04.360 the Russians

00:54:05.220 will invade

00:54:05.860 because it's

00:54:06.580 a deterrent

00:54:07.180 European Union

00:54:08.300 and NATO

00:54:08.820 are deterrents

00:54:10.040 that stop

00:54:10.540 Russians from

00:54:11.120 invading

00:54:11.540 and you know

00:54:12.460 we have these

00:54:13.160 events of the

00:54:14.240 past with

00:54:14.800 the Russians

00:54:15.540 so this

00:54:16.840 this argument

00:54:17.420 is

00:54:18.000 is working

00:54:19.280 with the

00:54:20.120 people

00:54:20.880 but you

00:54:22.220 know

00:54:22.360 if

00:54:22.640 if one

00:54:24.140 is like

00:54:24.580 us

00:54:24.940 and questions

00:54:25.840 the binary

00:54:26.900 system

00:54:27.500 and tries to

00:54:28.680 find a third

00:54:29.340 alternative

00:54:29.940 so you

00:54:30.860 then get

00:54:31.620 to this

00:54:32.060 problem

00:54:32.620 that

00:54:33.900 in order

00:54:36.220 to

00:54:36.640 to

00:54:38.480 for nationalism

00:54:39.700 to succeed

00:54:41.120 here

00:54:41.440 and

00:54:41.900 drive

00:54:42.980 liberalism

00:54:43.660 and Trotsky

00:54:44.220 ism out

00:54:44.720 you have

00:54:45.660 to have

00:54:46.220 western

00:54:47.020 backing

00:54:47.460 to act

00:54:49.140 as a

00:54:49.520 deterrent

00:54:50.000 against

00:54:50.560 Putin

00:54:51.160 because

00:54:51.980 without

00:54:52.260 it

00:54:52.640 the

00:54:55.900 liberal

00:54:56.240 argument

00:54:56.700 works

00:54:57.220 in

00:54:58.860 reality

00:54:59.360 it works

00:55:00.360 like

00:55:00.820 people

00:55:01.180 are

00:55:01.440 afraid

00:55:01.920 of

00:55:03.700 Putin

00:55:04.720 coming

00:55:05.240 and

00:55:08.160 the

00:55:08.640 argument

00:55:10.600 that

00:55:11.020 the

00:55:11.800 European

00:55:12.100 Union

00:55:12.600 even

00:55:13.820 with

00:55:14.120 its

00:55:14.360 Trotskyist

00:55:14.960 policies

00:55:15.420 is a

00:55:15.980 deterrent

00:55:16.520 it works

00:55:17.180 this works

00:55:17.760 with people

00:55:18.320 so in

00:55:19.480 order for

00:55:20.120 nationalism

00:55:20.560 to succeed

00:55:21.160 here

00:55:21.400 you know

00:55:21.680 it's

00:55:22.520 like

00:55:22.900 Lithuanian

00:55:23.460 grassroots

00:55:23.980 nationalism

00:55:24.500 cannot succeed

00:55:25.420 on its

00:55:26.040 own

00:55:26.300 right now

00:55:26.920 because

00:55:27.520 because of

00:55:29.680 our

00:55:32.600 position

00:55:34.160 within

00:55:34.820 European

00:55:35.380 Union

00:55:35.840 because

00:55:36.560 it's so

00:55:37.120 like

00:55:38.760 on the

00:55:39.500 border

00:55:39.880 and

00:55:40.520 you know

00:55:41.000 in

00:55:41.260 this

00:55:42.100 important

00:55:42.620 area

00:55:43.100 geopolitically

00:55:43.920 we

00:55:44.980 absolutely

00:55:45.340 need

00:55:45.840 western

00:55:46.420 backing

00:55:46.860 like

00:55:47.500 nationalist

00:55:48.260 backing

00:55:48.760 and

00:55:49.760 you know

00:55:50.100 we cannot

00:55:50.560 I've read

00:55:52.920 an article

00:55:54.240 on

00:55:54.520 countercurrents

00:55:55.320 by this

00:55:55.680 Estonian

00:55:56.180 Ruben

00:55:57.300 Kalep 0.97

00:55:57.740 which is

00:55:58.720 our

00:55:59.080 friend

00:56:00.300 in real

00:56:00.660 life

00:56:00.920 so

00:56:01.520 he's

00:56:02.980 too

00:56:03.120 optimistic

00:56:03.580 about

00:56:04.000 this

00:56:04.280 he says

00:56:04.880 eastern

00:56:05.980 European

00:56:06.340 countries

00:56:06.940 can help

00:56:08.120 western

00:56:08.680 European

00:56:09.520 countries

00:56:11.480 to become

00:56:12.140 nationalists

00:56:12.720 again

00:56:13.040 but

00:56:14.040 I don't

00:56:14.740 think

00:56:14.980 it's

00:56:15.360 quite

00:56:15.760 that

00:56:16.420 simple

00:56:16.840 and

00:56:17.280 I don't

00:56:17.940 think

00:56:18.140 it's

00:56:18.700 that

00:56:19.200 possible

00:56:19.780 because

00:56:20.420 without

00:56:20.800 western

00:56:21.240 backing

00:56:21.620 nationalists

00:56:22.600 cannot

00:56:22.920 win

00:56:23.200 here

00:56:23.500 simply

00:56:25.120 because

00:56:25.560 the

00:56:26.220 Russian

00:56:26.500 card

00:56:26.820 works

00:56:27.240 you know

00:56:27.600 they

00:56:27.840 fearmonger

00:56:28.600 the 0.95

00:56:28.780 Russian

00:56:29.000 card

00:56:29.300 so

00:56:29.540 well

00:56:29.820 people

00:56:31.100 will

00:56:31.480 not

00:56:32.060 accept

00:56:32.660 the

00:56:33.720 situation

00:56:34.340 where

00:56:35.180 a

00:56:36.160 newly

00:56:36.560 formed

00:56:37.320 nationalist

00:56:37.880 regime

00:56:38.440 has

00:56:39.200 no

00:56:39.580 foreign

00:56:40.740 backing

00:56:41.200 it

00:56:42.120 seems

00:56:42.320 a

00:56:42.480 difficult

00:56:42.740 situation

00:56:43.340 how

00:56:44.160 does

00:56:44.340 your

00:56:44.480 people

00:56:44.780 view

00:56:45.180 your

00:56:45.500 orientation

00:56:46.100 do

00:56:46.360 you

00:56:46.440 think

00:56:46.580 of

00:56:46.700 yourselves

00:56:47.040 as

00:56:47.240 western

00:56:47.680 or

00:56:48.080 northern

00:56:48.460 or eastern

00:56:50.200 the

00:56:51.960 liberals

00:56:52.340 have been

00:56:53.020 constructing

00:56:53.600 a narrative

00:56:54.620 for like

00:56:55.500 something like

00:56:56.620 20 years

00:56:57.280 now that

00:56:57.780 we are

00:56:58.160 northern

00:56:58.660 european

00:56:59.480 and they

00:57:00.760 have been

00:57:01.280 constructing

00:57:01.840 this narrative

00:57:02.700 for their

00:57:04.040 own

00:57:04.280 and which

00:57:05.280 which are

00:57:06.280 you know

00:57:07.120 trying to

00:57:08.440 import

00:57:09.640 swedish

00:57:10.340 policies

00:57:11.140 here

00:57:11.520 you know

00:57:12.380 like the

00:57:13.120 multicultural

00:57:14.040 nation

00:57:15.740 and

00:57:16.600 lgbt

00:57:17.360 rights

00:57:18.920 and so

00:57:19.400 on

00:57:19.700 so

00:57:20.480 this

00:57:21.720 is not

00:57:22.180 sorry

00:57:23.520 yeah

00:57:24.360 this is

00:57:25.820 not

00:57:26.040 a

00:57:26.860 genuine

00:57:27.260 wish

00:57:28.200 of

00:57:28.500 theirs

00:57:28.840 for

00:57:29.580 lithanians

00:57:30.180 to think

00:57:30.620 of themselves

00:57:31.120 as

00:57:31.540 northern

00:57:31.880 european

00:57:32.580 but

00:57:33.640 i'm not

00:57:35.320 even sure

00:57:35.780 myself

00:57:36.240 if i

00:57:36.740 would

00:57:37.040 consider

00:57:37.440 myself

00:57:37.940 eastern

00:57:38.600 european

00:57:39.100 or

00:57:39.460 northern

00:57:39.940 european

00:57:40.640 we are

00:57:41.500 european

00:57:42.440 just

00:57:42.720 in general

00:57:43.660 something

00:57:44.100 in

00:57:44.360 between

00:57:44.720 yeah

00:57:45.280 yeah

00:57:45.740 yeah

00:57:46.060 we are

00:57:46.460 on

00:57:46.680 the

00:57:47.180 on

00:57:48.460 the

00:57:48.620 line

00:57:48.880 where

00:57:49.120 cultures

00:57:49.600 meet

00:57:49.920 and

00:57:50.580 we

00:57:51.560 cannot

00:57:51.840 be

00:57:52.260 fully

00:57:52.820 northern

00:57:54.760 nor

00:57:55.140 fully

00:57:55.440 eastern

00:57:55.880 i guess

00:57:56.460 but

00:58:00.380 your

00:58:00.600 elites

00:58:00.980 are literally

00:58:01.440 looking at

00:58:02.020 sweden

00:58:02.560 and wanting

00:58:03.180 to import 1.00

00:58:03.680 this shit 1.00

00:58:04.120 is that 1.00

00:58:06.880 is that

00:58:07.960 correct

00:58:08.640 our

00:58:10.300 our

00:58:10.580 leaders

00:58:11.000 our

00:58:11.600 leaders

00:58:12.040 all of

00:58:13.680 the

00:58:13.820 parties

00:58:14.200 because

00:58:14.640 they

00:58:14.960 are

00:58:15.120 all

00:58:15.400 liberal

00:58:15.820 they

00:58:16.340 consider

00:58:16.820 sweden

00:58:17.420 to be

00:58:17.920 a prime

00:58:18.300 example

00:58:18.740 of how

00:58:19.340 lithania

00:58:19.960 should be

00:58:20.600 they are

00:58:21.900 evil

00:58:22.200 i mean

00:58:22.520 these people 0.99

00:58:23.220 are evil 0.98

00:58:23.580 i mean 0.99

00:58:24.140 you you

00:58:25.000 have one

00:58:25.700 you have

00:58:26.220 one of

00:58:26.620 those

00:58:26.780 asylum

00:58:27.220 centers

00:58:28.720 in the

00:58:29.060 whole

00:58:29.200 country

00:58:29.620 we have

00:58:30.900 several

00:58:31.420 in the

00:58:31.960 local

00:58:32.280 manipulacy

00:58:33.000 that's

00:58:34.160 just

00:58:34.320 the

00:58:34.460 local

00:58:34.680 manipulacy

00:58:35.260 oh

00:58:35.860 i need

00:58:36.600 to address

00:58:37.000 something

00:58:37.400 i inherently

00:58:38.560 need to

00:58:38.940 address

00:58:39.200 something

00:58:39.540 here

00:58:39.840 something

00:58:40.520 you

00:58:40.720 previously

00:58:41.240 mentioned

00:58:41.580 i've been

00:58:42.140 burning

00:58:42.400 in

00:58:42.600 with

00:58:42.740 this

00:58:43.040 it's

00:58:43.520 regarding

00:58:43.920 the

00:58:44.200 putin

00:58:44.700 card

00:58:45.040 as i

00:58:45.300 like to

00:58:45.520 call it

00:58:45.800 the putinistic

00:58:47.040 fear mongering

00:58:48.960 of the

00:58:49.820 liberal

00:58:50.080 parties

00:58:50.680 they claim

00:58:52.000 as you

00:58:52.440 mentioned

00:58:52.780 earlier

00:58:53.220 that with

00:58:54.320 these international

00:58:55.140 conventions

00:58:55.780 like nato

00:58:56.760 and the

00:58:57.220 european

00:58:57.900 union

00:58:58.440 anything

00:58:59.620 and i say

00:59:00.460 again

00:59:00.740 anything

00:59:01.460 that goes

00:59:02.460 against this

00:59:03.000 internationalist

00:59:04.080 agenda

00:59:04.540 of undermining

00:59:05.840 national

00:59:06.420 identity

00:59:07.040 they

00:59:08.220 they

00:59:08.240 claim

00:59:08.800 well

00:59:09.420 you're

00:59:09.980 doing

00:59:10.260 the

00:59:10.480 work

00:59:10.880 of

00:59:11.320 the

00:59:11.520 muscovites 0.97

00:59:12.260 you are 0.55

00:59:12.920 essentially

00:59:13.280 allowing

00:59:13.960 putinist

00:59:14.660 notions

00:59:15.120 to spread

00:59:15.720 wild

00:59:16.300 during

00:59:17.280 the time

00:59:17.780 of the

00:59:18.060 elections

00:59:18.460 where

00:59:18.900 president

00:59:19.500 elect

00:59:20.020 t

00:59:20.340 uh

00:59:20.920 well

00:59:21.320 what's

00:59:21.680 the

00:59:21.820 presidential

00:59:23.000 nominee

00:59:23.840 uh

00:59:24.680 donald trump

00:59:25.560 was about

00:59:25.960 to get

00:59:26.220 elected

00:59:26.560 several

00:59:27.400 times

00:59:27.880 i say

00:59:28.300 time

00:59:29.240 and time

00:59:29.860 again

00:59:30.300 you saw

00:59:31.040 liberals

00:59:31.500 referring to

00:59:32.140 him

00:59:32.360 as

00:59:32.600 nothing

00:59:33.000 more

00:59:33.300 but a

00:59:33.780 putinist

00:59:34.940 a putin

00:59:35.720 puppet

00:59:36.220 he was

00:59:37.440 running

00:59:37.700 the

00:59:37.880 ideas

00:59:39.120 and concepts

00:59:39.940 of putin

00:59:40.760 and whatever

00:59:41.820 any national

00:59:43.080 conservative

00:59:43.860 party

00:59:44.540 have managed

00:59:45.500 to have

00:59:45.920 success

00:59:46.660 by any

00:59:47.720 means

00:59:48.000 whatsoever

00:59:48.460 to

00:59:49.160 maintain

00:59:50.020 national

00:59:50.660 interest

00:59:51.160 and saying

00:59:51.680 no

00:59:52.180 to the

00:59:52.920 foreign

00:59:53.600 led

00:59:54.020 regime

00:59:54.980 in brussel

00:59:55.860 whatever

00:59:56.320 this has

00:59:56.900 happened

00:59:57.260 they have

00:59:58.300 time and

00:59:58.860 time

00:59:59.120 and again

01:00:00.140 and again

01:00:00.920 said

01:00:01.860 you're a 0.82

01:00:03.100 putinist 0.99

01:00:03.740 you're

01:00:04.220 in

01:00:05.360 favor

01:00:05.820 of

01:00:06.140 russification

01:00:07.620 oh

01:00:08.020 you don't

01:00:08.280 like 0.96

01:00:08.480 homosexuals 0.98

01:00:09.400 well 0.97

01:00:09.760 you must

01:00:10.320 be a

01:00:10.640 muscovite

01:00:11.300 you are 0.95

01:00:12.140 a

01:00:12.360 paid

01:00:12.960 oligarch

01:00:13.840 you hear

01:00:14.580 this time

01:00:15.000 and time

01:00:15.260 again

01:00:15.460 and this

01:00:16.200 is how

01:00:16.760 the

01:00:17.480 liberals

01:00:18.680 try and

01:00:19.280 play to

01:00:19.760 the sensibility

01:00:20.680 of the

01:00:22.000 public

01:00:22.360 populace

01:00:23.000 after the

01:00:24.040 whole

01:00:24.380 incident

01:00:24.860 in

01:00:25.380 ukraine

01:00:26.040 they use

01:00:27.320 that

01:00:27.580 as

01:00:28.060 nothing

01:00:28.600 more

01:00:28.940 but a

01:00:29.340 giant

01:00:29.860 scheme

01:00:30.520 to keep

01:00:31.300 spreading 0.68

01:00:31.720 sodomy

01:00:32.500 within our

01:00:33.180 nations

01:00:33.620 as well

01:00:34.340 as keep

01:00:34.960 spreading

01:00:35.300 these

01:00:35.720 wild

01:00:36.700 notions

01:00:37.400 of

01:00:38.080 pro-European

01:00:39.500 propaganda

01:00:40.100 so

01:00:42.940 with that

01:00:43.700 out of

01:00:43.960 the way

01:00:44.380 and

01:00:44.960 let me

01:00:45.400 also say

01:00:45.940 that

01:00:46.220 here's another

01:00:46.700 point on

01:00:47.280 that

01:00:47.500 like

01:00:47.840 as

01:00:48.200 as a

01:00:48.620 military

01:00:48.960 veteran

01:00:49.340 i can't

01:00:50.020 imagine

01:00:50.580 any

01:00:51.520 nato

01:00:51.900 power

01:00:52.400 actually

01:00:53.240 going to

01:00:53.840 bat

01:00:54.160 for the

01:00:54.980 baltic

01:00:55.220 countries

01:00:55.720 the logistics

01:00:57.080 of the

01:00:58.040 strategic

01:00:58.400 situation

01:00:58.980 are just

01:00:59.420 so terrible

01:01:00.160 no one

01:01:01.640 is going

01:01:01.980 to risk

01:01:02.500 a general

01:01:03.020 war for

01:01:03.540 that

01:01:03.740 it's just

01:01:04.180 not

01:01:04.340 going to

01:01:04.560 happen

01:01:04.860 they're

01:01:06.240 going to

01:01:06.380 throw you 0.70

01:01:06.640 under the 1.00

01:01:06.900 bus

01:01:07.160 they are

01:01:08.280 going to

01:01:08.500 throw you 0.70

01:01:08.720 under the 1.00

01:01:09.000 bus

01:01:09.180 yeah i

01:01:09.620 would expect

01:01:10.120 that

01:01:10.580 i mean

01:01:11.440 i mean

01:01:13.040 they're going to

01:01:13.340 do the same

01:01:13.760 for denmark

01:01:14.340 and norway

01:01:14.960 and finland

01:01:15.420 maybe

01:01:15.820 poland

01:01:16.360 maybe poland

01:01:17.400 would be

01:01:17.860 concerned

01:01:18.360 with us

01:01:18.980 maybe

01:01:19.640 you know

01:01:20.740 but the

01:01:21.200 western

01:01:21.700 countries

01:01:22.220 of course

01:01:22.680 they would

01:01:23.080 it wouldn't

01:01:24.080 be the first

01:01:24.600 time you

01:01:25.140 you sell

01:01:25.720 us

01:01:26.180 to russians

01:01:27.460 right

01:01:27.820 i mean

01:01:29.460 it's the

01:01:30.200 same

01:01:30.480 it's the

01:01:31.020 same

01:01:31.200 everywhere

01:01:31.540 i mean

01:01:31.840 the americans

01:01:32.380 don't give

01:01:32.680 two pots

01:01:33.180 of piss

01:01:33.600 about us

01:01:34.120 of course

01:01:34.820 we're not

01:01:35.140 to rely

01:01:35.980 on the

01:01:36.620 on a

01:01:37.540 foreign

01:01:37.860 entity

01:01:38.380 like the

01:01:38.860 united

01:01:39.200 states

01:01:39.620 of america

01:01:40.260 i mean

01:01:40.900 the only

01:01:41.120 reason

01:01:41.440 they even

01:01:41.820 involved

01:01:42.260 us

01:01:42.440 in this

01:01:42.900 entire

01:01:43.240 ordeal

01:01:43.620 was so

01:01:43.980 that we

01:01:44.400 in the

01:01:44.860 context

01:01:45.220 of the

01:01:45.500 marshal

01:01:45.860 help

01:01:46.160 after the

01:01:46.560 second

01:01:46.760 world war

01:01:47.380 that they

01:01:47.860 could

01:01:48.000 financially

01:01:48.640 undermine

01:01:49.160 us

01:01:49.440 and remove

01:01:49.860 our

01:01:50.040 national

01:01:50.440 weapon

01:01:50.820 production

01:01:51.300 and therefore

01:01:52.160 enslave

01:01:52.740 us to

01:01:53.060 american

01:01:53.520 economy

01:01:54.120 there's

01:01:55.060 the only

01:01:55.280 reason

01:01:55.700 they're

01:01:56.300 not going

01:01:56.600 to bag

01:01:56.860 us

01:01:57.020 up

01:01:57.200 their

01:01:57.400 wars

01:01:57.640 have

01:01:57.800 no

01:01:58.200 integrity

01:01:58.640 behind

01:01:59.040 them

01:01:59.260 americans

01:01:59.820 have

01:02:00.020 no

01:02:00.440 integrity

01:02:00.960 and

01:02:01.740 yeah

01:02:01.900 you're

01:02:02.080 absolutely

01:02:02.400 right

01:02:02.900 with that

01:02:05.140 prophetic

01:02:06.920 message

01:02:07.400 i think

01:02:07.940 we're getting

01:02:08.260 to the end

01:02:08.600 of our

01:02:08.780 first hour

01:02:09.300 so it's

01:02:10.160 been an

01:02:10.420 absolute

01:02:10.680 pleasure

01:02:11.120 you know

01:02:11.700 after we

01:02:12.480 come back

01:02:12.900 we're going

01:02:13.120 to discuss

01:02:13.620 more in

01:02:14.200 depth

01:02:14.380 the actual

01:02:14.920 group

01:02:15.240 of

01:02:15.420 skidas

01:02:15.720 itself

01:02:16.180 having

01:02:16.580 gotten

01:02:16.980 out of

01:02:17.840 the way

01:02:18.180 the context

01:02:19.040 of it

01:02:19.360 within

01:02:19.680 lithuania

01:02:20.240 so to

01:02:21.260 our

01:02:21.380 listeners

01:02:21.700 stay

01:02:22.660 tuned

01:02:22.940 thank

01:02:24.240 you

01:02:52.940 thank you

01:03:22.940 We'll be right back.

01:03:52.940 We'll be right back.

01:04:22.940 We'll be right back.

01:04:52.940 We'll be right back.

01:05:22.940 We'll be right back.

01:05:52.940 We'll be right back.

01:06:22.940 We'll be right back.

01:06:52.920 This alt-right-themed sort of group utilizing vaporwave aesthetics and all these things.

01:07:03.480 We'll be right back.

01:07:33.480 Yeah, we have two axis political system, so we are above that, we are the third axis, we are like fascism united with futurism, so that's what best describes us.

01:07:51.480 Yeah, neo-nazism with space rockets.

01:08:21.460 We'll be right back.

01:08:51.460 So he helped us with that, so he helped us with that a great deal, and yeah, without national action, we would probably not be here.

01:08:58.180 So I thank them.

01:09:28.180 So we took all of that, so we took all of that, I mean, we're united in the struggle internationally, and so we ought to share information as well as material as much as we are able to help one another.

01:09:46.000 Yeah, sure.

01:10:16.000 Yeah.

01:10:17.000 Yeah.

01:10:18.000 So many other movements that couldn't do anything without having foreign contact.

01:10:25.000 Truly, I mean, the international fascist fraternity, to use another buzzword, a keyword, as Nat would say.

01:10:35.960 Okay, so I'm curious about the futurism.

01:10:37.960 So certainly in the North American context, futurism is a very important concept.

01:10:45.220 And definitely we will do a mysterium episode later on about this.

01:10:50.220 But Lithuania seems to have a fairly, obviously, you know, native, well-established culture.

01:10:56.000 But do you see it as needing kind of a total reform and reprogramming?

01:11:00.860 Is this like a reaction back to its roots, or do you want to move forward to something new?

01:11:07.860 Yeah.

01:11:08.860 I think the point with this is that people understand futurism differently.

01:11:17.860 The term itself refers to an artistic movement that sprung up in Italy in early 20th century, and it has nothing to do with rockets.

01:11:32.260 It's basically an artistic movement from which fascism arose.

01:11:41.260 It's a predecessor of fascism. 0.92

01:11:43.260 So we kind of base our ideas on it, but still, you are right about the reconstruction of identity, because that is one of the key points of fascism, modernization of ethnic culture in order for it to be able to fight global pop culture. 0.76

01:12:05.960 So, of course, all identities need constant modernization in order to be relevant and to survive the globalized environment.

01:12:22.360 So this is why futurism is quite important for us.

01:12:26.820 You know, you cannot be stuck in your ethnic culture ways.

01:12:31.200 You have to seek modernization.

01:12:35.740 And, you know, this is what we do as a group, and this is on what we base our activities on, these new aesthetics.

01:12:46.100 And it's a completely new way to reach out to people, because we reach many people that have not been reached by any sort of radical political idea before.

01:13:05.140 And these aesthetics, this modern outlook, lets us do that.

01:13:11.220 This is also what separates us from all the traditionalists who have a stigma of being stuck in the Stone Age.

01:13:22.240 It's really, really interesting that you're pointing this out, and this is something that I've been thinking a lot to myself.

01:13:27.060 And this is what I like to see with, like, the neo-fascist movement, really, is the fact that we have thrown these old notions of, like, what we can only refer to as Hollywood Nazism into the garbage bin.

01:13:44.280 Now I'm referring to, like, the fact that we've finally dealt with the, you know, neo-Nazi skinhead culture, and we have reformed it into something new, like a new youth movement, if you will, of young white Aryan men. 0.56

01:14:00.960 To finally, you know, to finally, you know, redefine the intercultural aspect of our movement.

01:14:08.760 And find something that can truly unify and fascinate people besides, you know, oil skinhead music and stuff like that. 1.00

01:14:17.800 So the fact that we've, that people like you guys are finally giving the movement a fresh breath of air, if you will, that will truly entice young people into joining up and realize that, yeah, we need to kill faggots, Jews, and niggers. 1.00

01:14:37.220 In a purely metaphorical sense, of course. 1.00

01:14:40.900 Yes, we need to kill their ideological movements. 0.97

01:14:43.340 Yeah, not physically, I mean, not literally, but, you know, it's just a prank, guys. Don't worry about it. 0.99

01:14:50.680 Yeah, it's just a prank, bro.

01:14:52.440 Yeah, of course. Mysterium Fashi is, of course, never endorses direct political violence, because that would be against the law, and we don't break the law.

01:15:03.440 No, no, never.

01:15:03.920 We don't break the law, because we are not, we're not Africans. So, yeah. Nice try, FBI.

01:15:11.240 Exactly.

01:15:13.340 So, yeah, and I think that this is something very fascinating, and certainly it might be of profit to have one of you men back on when we discuss the aspect of futurism more broadly, not only as it pertains to North America, but to the world in general.

01:15:25.400 Because I think that this kind of dynamism, and this understanding that, you know, we are in a new era, and we have to hold on to the principles that work, but they're going to be applied in a new way, I think is critical.

01:15:38.420 And we, as you say, you know, we can't be the dinosaurs in front of the comet, we have to adapt without changing our principles.

01:15:49.380 Yeah, the Italians. 0.99

01:15:50.600 Yeah, the Italians had it all figured out. 1.00

01:15:55.500 They based their movement on artistic skills of people.

01:16:01.060 It was all about heart.

01:16:02.340 The original fascist party of Italy, it was all about heart.

01:16:06.620 So, they didn't even need violence that much.

01:16:11.560 I mean, the establishment just was scared shitless of their huge numbers, and they caved in.

01:16:19.500 They didn't need any kind of vulgarity.

01:16:22.780 The movement was all about the aesthetics.

01:16:25.460 That's what we need to do, and we don't really need to resort to violence or vulgarity.

01:16:35.680 I mean, art creates unity, intellectualism creates disunity.

01:16:42.240 But this is really the thing.

01:16:45.780 Like, we are the generation of a dystopian society.

01:16:50.360 Which is why I think that this whole vaporwave thing really fits in so perfectly, right?

01:16:57.500 Like, you see the trash littered streets, you see the graffiti, you see the broken down buildings and broken dreams everywhere.

01:17:06.340 Like, this 80s dystopia, like, ambience music fits perfectly with the age we live in.

01:17:15.840 And the new aesthetic of the fascist movement, of European youth, is so ground-shattering.

01:17:24.440 And its amplification of creating this new unity without, like, the traditionalist 30s uniformication is so unique. 0.97

01:17:36.940 It's so fucking unique. 0.95

01:17:40.320 Yeah, it is. 0.97

01:17:41.380 I completely agree.

01:17:42.300 One of the key, how should I put it, like, things that we try to do in real life is to encourage our guys to start creating art in some way.

01:18:02.820 We have Itotaz here, who makes all the videos.

01:18:09.280 You see all the aesthetics.

01:18:11.140 Like, he's very good at it.

01:18:12.760 By the way, by the way, put a few of the videos.

01:18:18.500 I've actually seen of their work.

01:18:19.760 It's exceptional propaganda work.

01:18:21.600 It's really cool.

01:18:22.640 Great aesthetics.

01:18:24.120 You should leave a link to some of their works on the show notes.

01:18:29.840 Yeah, sure, sure.

01:18:30.720 This base cheetah is very deep and very profound, and it really speaks to me.

01:18:38.180 Yes, the black said cheetah.

01:18:39.400 Thank you.

01:18:40.100 Yeah, that one is the best.

01:18:43.300 Yeah, so shoot us a link to any of the material you'd like to propagate, and of course, we'll let you do a shout-out at the end.

01:18:49.060 So what would you say is your goal, if you had to say, what's the purpose of SkiDAS, just to promote Lithuanian nationalism, or do you have any specific agenda that you want to implement?

01:19:05.140 Yeah, it's too early to talk about this sort of official agenda for now.

01:19:14.100 Yeah, because being a small nation, people are much more afraid, you know?

01:19:29.720 At this point in reality, if something happens, like somebody puts up racist stickers somewhere, there's nobody to blame but us for the media.

01:19:50.680 So, like, we're the lone group that does something semi-officially.

01:20:00.300 I mean, so for now, we just want more people, so we wouldn't get this kind of heat on just a few members that do artistic things, you know?

01:20:14.540 I understand. Certainly, it must be a completely different circumstance in Lithuania than it is in anywhere else.

01:20:23.940 I mean, just because of the size of the country, it's really incredible to think about.

01:20:26.980 So, you know, what are your – so you said that you don't really have an agenda and that you're focused on forming your group, and that's, you know, quite fair enough and all well and good.

01:20:40.780 But do you have any, you know, activities or demonstrations that you engage in?

01:20:44.900 You know, how large are you guys, and what are your plans for the future aside from general growth?

01:20:50.240 Yeah, we have a few marches that we are planning to engage in annually.

01:20:58.160 The first one is the February 16th march, which is to commemorate the Lithuanian independence, which happened in 1918.

01:21:14.680 The second is March 11th march, which was the one where the National Action Guides came to support us.

01:21:29.560 It celebrates a restoration of Lithuanian independence in 1991.

01:21:35.600 So, yeah, we have these two marches, and, well, the most basic of our activities are just, you know, gatherings of our lads and sharing all kinds of information.

01:21:54.320 And we have discussions, and, you know, I try to give some sort of, like, political lectures, if you can call them.

01:22:10.040 Because, yeah, I've been studying political science at university, so I guess I know a bit more than other guys.

01:22:19.680 So, yeah, I try to, we try to talk about political theory and philosophy.

01:22:28.420 I think it's crucial.

01:22:30.580 It's a political idea.

01:22:31.660 Yeah, that you base your political ideas not on domestic things, not on earnings, not on money, but on philosophical dogmas.

01:22:44.880 So, with that being said, you guys are waging a, like, this is really a thing I think a lot of things do, but you guys are kind of running a cultural war, aren't you?

01:22:58.760 You are, like, putting on some flames to the gasoline, if you will, in terms of cultural understanding, right?

01:23:06.760 You are kind of, like, trying to shatter the old dogmatic idea of, you know, leftist egalitarianism.

01:23:14.380 Isn't that kind of what you're doing with, like, your radical, you know, neo-asthetic approach?

01:23:21.700 Yeah, exactly.

01:23:22.660 You're completely right.

01:23:23.700 My idea is that Lithuanian history itself has been reconstructed by liberals so badly that all the people need reminding what actually happened.

01:23:36.200 The June uprising that I mentioned that Lithuanians indeed fought on the Axis side and not against the Axis is very important for people to learn because usually the liberals twist this idea and try to undermine the role of Lithuanians.

01:24:00.860 Because the fact that Lithuania itself had a coup d'etat and these pseudo-fascists came to power and constructed our identity.

01:24:12.820 Yeah, this is a cultural struggle, if I can say so, that we want to fight.

01:24:20.220 And it's all about intellectualism for now and teaching the kids our history and how our history should be, you know, constructed in the future.

01:24:32.500 And speaking about the global level, I should put out that our artwork, our memes, our videos, we are waging a war against the global liberal agenda.

01:24:47.380 Because in the local level, yeah, our mission is really what it is, what Jurgi said.

01:24:55.600 But on the global level, we are helping the foreign nationalists to man up and put up the pen and do the cultural warfare on their end. 0.86

01:25:09.100 So we are like doing local but thinking globally.

01:25:13.880 Yeah, yeah, that's true, what you made forth of sentiments.

01:25:22.360 That is, whatever we do on whatever minuscule scale, right?

01:25:27.680 When you, as a politically active fascist, are setting up propaganda, making a statement against the cultural decadence of the West,

01:25:39.340 whenever you're doing the most minuscule of things, like attacking the most, what normal people would think to be minuscule of institutions of the current liberal decadent regime,

01:25:52.720 the smallest of these things is a giant blow in the struggle that we are so deeply inclined in for the one true notion of total Aryan victory. 0.91

01:26:06.800 When that is clear to people, that every institution that we attack, every leftist we make shit blood because they're so blood or butthurt about our sentiments, 0.93

01:26:20.180 that in itself is a victory. 0.96

01:26:23.840 And people who see and despise weakness, which is 90% of mankind, by the way, yeah, that is something that we win over.

01:26:34.860 Because people are sick with the society we live in.

01:26:37.220 So, whenever we manage to upset leftists to such a degree, where they are publicly pissing their pants, 1.00

01:26:47.120 screaming hysterically in front of buildings because they're not getting their way, like little shit-filled children, 0.99

01:26:53.880 that in itself is a victory, a motivation on a global scale to activate our comrades across the borders, 0.98

01:27:05.740 to engage themselves in the struggle, in the one struggle for global fascism, national fascism, and total Aryan victory.

01:27:17.860 Amen. Now, the last question I'll pose before we move on to the Kali Yuga news,

01:27:24.980 is it like, so you said that you were basically, we've said it a couple of times,

01:27:28.420 you're basically the only game in town, the only group in Lithuania that is actually doing anything in a semi-public.

01:27:34.680 So, what kind of resistance from the state apparatus have you, you know, encountered?

01:27:41.520 Have they been very heavy-handed, or has it been light, or, you know?

01:27:44.940 Any good pranks? Any good pranks?

01:27:48.360 Yeah, we did a few banner drops on the bridges, and it didn't turn out for the best,

01:27:53.940 because we kind of got some police attention, some guys had their laptops confiscated,

01:28:00.680 yeah, and, I mean, the law enforcement knows us, and they tried to, like...

01:28:09.940 Yeah, so, after the May 9th, the victory day of World War II, we dropped the banner with a swastika,

01:28:18.380 and that just, we hit the shitstorm we ever had, that was like, OMG.

01:28:24.760 But on that level, that, we thought that everything would be fine, 0.95

01:28:30.060 but after some rats in other nationalistic groups, they rented us out, and that was like,

01:28:37.200 oh, you really do that?

01:28:39.280 You should fight with liberals, not to backstab your brothers in an idea of...

01:28:47.940 Yeah, we kind of had a guy that ratted us out to the cops, you know, the banner drop.

01:28:56.580 Yeah, that was not cool.

01:28:57.600 We didn't really see it coming, because it happened, like, a month after the banner drop.

01:29:01.980 We were just chilling, doing our activities as usual, and then the next day, just pow.

01:29:06.300 It just came out of nowhere.

01:29:07.720 Suggestion.

01:29:09.000 Suggestion here, comrades.

01:29:10.340 Let me just say one thing here.

01:29:11.720 Suggestion. 0.98

01:29:12.400 That's pathetic on so many levels. 0.99

01:29:14.040 What does this guy think he will even gain? 1.00

01:29:17.780 Respectability.

01:29:17.940 I mean, he wants...

01:29:19.040 He wants respectability.

01:29:20.200 Yeah, but listen, he won't be liked by nationalists,

01:29:22.980 and the sure-and-so-want-be-liked by establishment.

01:29:25.240 So he'll be in the middle, a pariah of both sides. 1.00

01:29:28.240 I mean, it's just idiotic. 1.00

01:29:29.660 Moderate. 0.99

01:29:30.060 And if everyone ever considers to do that, have that in mind. 1.00

01:29:32.960 Because this shit is disgusting. 1.00

01:29:36.040 Well, no one ever loves a traitor. 1.00

01:29:38.060 What you should do.

01:29:38.920 Yeah, exactly.

01:29:39.780 What you should do.

01:29:40.440 What you guys win there is you've identified a weakling,

01:29:44.280 and so you never associate with him again.

01:29:47.080 And that's all to the good, is when you can do these small actions

01:29:50.580 that reveal the weak among you.

01:29:55.160 This strengthens you.

01:29:56.300 This gives you strength.

01:29:57.400 Yeah.

01:29:57.620 But remember this.

01:29:58.440 I completely agree. 0.98

01:29:59.120 He's a toesucker. 1.00

01:30:00.020 Yeah, and also... 0.94

01:30:00.820 He's a toesucker. 1.00

01:30:01.400 Yeah, another thing about him. 0.92

01:30:02.980 He likes anime, so it tells you other things you need to know about.

01:30:06.160 Wow, the anime question once again.

01:30:08.380 Eternal weave.

01:30:08.800 Oh, my goodness gracious me.

01:30:10.440 The eternal weeaboo.

01:30:11.780 The thing is that he was actually never part of us,

01:30:15.960 and we never considered him to be part of us.

01:30:18.180 Yeah, but just because, like, Lithuania is so small,

01:30:21.860 and, you know, it's so easy to know people,

01:30:25.380 it's very hard to avoid these things.

01:30:28.680 It's very hard to avoid, you know, letting people that shouldn't know something, know something.

01:30:38.340 And it's just much harder than in the West, where you have much more people.

01:30:44.780 How many people are in Lithuania?

01:30:47.340 Three million.

01:30:49.700 We have five million here in Denmark.

01:30:52.160 Yeah, but you have a much larger internet community.

01:30:56.440 I mean, people like much larger circles, social circles of those people.

01:31:05.760 And in Lithuania, you don't.

01:31:07.320 You have these very small scenes of people that are interested in politics.

01:31:16.700 I guess it's another problem that people in Eastern Europe are much more apolitical than in the West.

01:31:23.980 That's debatable.

01:31:27.860 That's definitely debatable.

01:31:30.180 That's debatable.

01:31:31.100 That's all I have to say.

01:31:32.460 And sorry for interrupting you,

01:31:34.860 but the thing is that people in Lithuania are encouraged to be good citizens

01:31:40.520 and to report anything that's apparently breaking the law.

01:31:46.080 And people, they try to be as good citizens as possible,

01:31:51.140 even though there's only three million people.

01:31:52.900 They still try to rat out anybody that's breaking the law?

01:31:58.080 No, I would actually say that's Soviet culture.

01:32:01.240 Ratting out your neighbor to the regime.

01:32:06.340 That's sort of, you know.

01:32:09.180 It's a manifestation of the Kali Yuga. 0.93

01:32:12.120 And speaking of the Kali Yuga, we're going to... 0.81

01:32:14.340 Wait, wait, wait.

01:32:15.380 Before you go ahead and go forth to the wonderful Kali Yuga of the modern world, 0.99

01:32:20.940 let me just give a public service to anyone who is listening.

01:32:27.000 And this is especially in the context of the wonderful people of Skydust.

01:32:31.060 Always remember a face mask, sunglasses, hoodie.

01:32:35.540 Whatever you have, remember to mask your face and put on gloves.

01:32:40.540 We are living with a regime that wants to do us harm.

01:32:48.460 Whatever means they can perform harm upon our bodies, our family, whatever. 1.00

01:32:53.640 They are fucking scum. 1.00

01:32:55.500 Remember this. 1.00

01:32:57.420 They will not care if they attack your sisters, your little brothers,

01:33:01.800 your girlfriend, your children, your family. 1.00

01:33:05.180 Whatever means they have, they will fucking harm you. 0.99

01:33:09.660 So, have the courtesy to bring a face mask and gloves and a hoodie with you 0.98

01:33:15.240 or something that can somewhat mask you when you're going out doing political activities.

01:33:20.480 Just remember it, people.

01:33:22.140 The regime hates us and they want to see our people dead. 0.73

01:33:25.360 And anyone who dares to rise up in protest against our people getting eradicated,

01:33:31.160 they will get stigmatized and they will try and destroy your entire social circle

01:33:37.280 to alienate you and destroy your life, essentially.

01:33:41.860 So, just a public service.

01:33:43.920 Remember a face mask.

01:33:45.420 Always keep one in your left pocket.

01:33:46.920 Very good advice.

01:33:50.780 If I may say something, one last thing.

01:33:53.340 Please, Doc.

01:33:54.880 I think this discussion has been very fruitful, very good.

01:33:59.180 I'm very encouraged by everything I'm hearing.

01:34:02.380 And I just want to reinforce the importance of aesthetics and art.

01:34:11.100 All culture is expressed by its art.

01:34:15.880 And art, like morality, begins with drawing a line, if you will.

01:34:23.520 And it's important for us to remember the concept, the principle of beauty, right?

01:34:31.840 And to show everyone, the masses, the lemmings, highlight for them 1.00

01:34:39.740 the contrast between beauty, between order, between hierarchy, between everything that is tradition

01:34:49.380 and the ugliness of the modern world.

01:34:54.080 And I think it's through our art and our aesthetics that that is how we can reach people.

01:35:01.340 It's certainly one of the most effective means of propaganda.

01:35:05.740 There can be no doubt about that.

01:35:07.800 And so, to contrast with the hour and odd half of beautiful political information that we've brought to you,

01:35:15.980 we're going to delve into the Kali Yuga News section of our show.

01:35:19.960 So, it has been a substantiative week in terms of articles from the Kali Yuga.

01:35:27.960 And we've got a plethora of things to choose from, and likely we won't be able to cover them all.

01:35:33.600 But I'm just going to go ahead and just cover the first article in the stack.

01:35:37.640 This is from Russia Today.

01:35:42.440 The byline is,

01:35:43.500 Up to 1,750 jihadists back in Europe from war zones, ready for attacks.

01:35:49.660 New report, published on December 8th.

01:35:52.700 A third of the 5,000 European jihadists who traveled to fight in Syria and Iraq are now back in Europe,

01:35:58.680 with some on specific missions.

01:36:00.460 A new EU report warns.

01:36:02.060 The bloc's authorities are raising the alarm over further Islamic attacks on European soil.

01:36:08.280 EU anti-terrorist chief Gildik Kershov will present the findings of the report,

01:36:13.220 which has been already sent to the AFP to European ministers on Friday.

01:36:17.360 It is said that out of the 5,000 jihadists who joined terrorists in Iraq and Syria,

01:36:21.540 but a third are now back in Europe.

01:36:24.120 And it goes on and on, etc.

01:36:26.300 And I don't think there's really much elaboration that needs to be done.

01:36:29.500 And I mean, the byline that I've written here is, you know, who could have predicted this?

01:36:34.620 Who could have possibly predicted that this is what would occur?

01:36:41.780 Everyone with two brain cells.

01:36:43.260 Exactly.

01:36:44.520 And I remember when the invasion began, and ISIS and other, you know, Islamic groups were publishing, 0.97

01:36:53.960 you know, press releases saying, yeah, no, we're going to send our agents in with the refugee waves to attack Europe. 0.92

01:36:59.340 That's what we're going to do.

01:37:00.400 They were open about it.

01:37:01.900 Russia Today was running articles about it.

01:37:03.880 I was in Al Jazeera even.

01:37:05.160 It was, there was no clandestine, it was just completely understood. 1.00

01:37:10.880 And it was just like, you know, the fucking bold-faced lunacy, it's ludicrous. 0.99

01:37:22.040 You know, and I come back to it, and I mean, these are the people that we're fighting. 0.99

01:37:26.340 You know, there's no sense to it at all.

01:37:28.300 There's no rationality, except if you consider the fact that they want to destroy us. 0.98

01:37:33.740 They want to kill you. 1.00

01:37:35.880 They want to see your children raped and enslaved, and their offspring miscegenated, deracinated, 1.00

01:37:41.820 cultureless, consumerist wrecks. 0.99

01:37:44.840 Okay?

01:37:45.280 They want to attack and destroy everything about you and our people down to the fundamental level

01:37:51.920 that makes us human, that's beautiful about us, that's unique, that's special, that's specific.

01:37:56.380 These things that give us meaning in our life, this is the nature of deconstructionism.

01:38:01.880 And so, I mean, it's just, there's not a lot to say.

01:38:10.540 But it just serves as a reminder of, you know, once again, this is who we're fighting.

01:38:16.540 And there needs to be no doubt in the minds of our fighters, of us, about, you know, who

01:38:24.940 we are, who we're fighting, and what we need to do.

01:38:28.120 Because the only way that we're going to be able to prevent this from occurring is if we

01:38:31.780 completely dismantle our enemy's control.

01:38:35.500 Yeah.

01:38:36.080 Every island. 1.00

01:38:36.800 I saw something that was horrific regarding this shit. 0.99

01:38:40.980 Well, it's kind of related. 1.00

01:38:42.960 In Bulgaria, the migrants that come there use Bulgarian children as their catamines. 1.00

01:38:49.920 They back up assy. 0.97

01:38:51.220 They import their filth to the countries they pass. 1.00

01:38:54.400 This wasn't even the country they end up in.

01:38:56.760 This is just a country they pass through.

01:38:59.760 Just imagine how it is in Germany.

01:39:01.300 Just imagine how it is in Sweden.

01:39:02.460 Again, I think that the only reason why we don't hear this and most is because it's

01:39:06.960 covered up. 1.00

01:39:08.000 I literally think there's a huge cover up on this shit. 0.99

01:39:10.160 You see some examples coming every now and then. 0.99

01:39:12.800 But I think this is more larger than we could ever imagine.

01:39:17.060 And it's happening right now.

01:39:18.360 But you know what?

01:39:18.860 People don't care.

01:39:19.760 They like their let's dance every Friday.

01:39:22.420 They like their ships.

01:39:25.260 They like their safe work. 1.00

01:39:27.900 They don't care about this shit. 1.00

01:39:29.280 You know what? 1.00

01:39:29.660 They care about feeling good.

01:39:31.760 They want to be comfortable.

01:39:33.000 They don't care if the whole country is good. 0.99

01:39:34.940 They don't care if their people is literally being raped by immigrants. 1.00

01:39:39.020 They don't care about that shit. 1.00

01:39:39.960 No. 1.00

01:39:40.300 I mean, who cares about other people?

01:39:42.380 I'm an individual.

01:39:43.440 I'm a tabula rasa.

01:39:44.780 I have no connection with these people.

01:39:46.140 If you call this out, if you call this out, you'll feel bad.

01:39:49.040 Yeah, exactly.

01:39:49.700 Just like people call you racist.

01:39:50.580 And feeling bad is worse than actually being bad.

01:39:55.580 Yeah.

01:39:56.720 Yeah. 0.98

01:39:57.120 And in regards to the story in Bulgaria, the only way, the reason the story was broken is because all of these volunteer doctors were saying to international organizations, we're tired of stitching up people's assholes. 0.96

01:40:09.700 Yeah. 1.00

01:40:10.120 Imagine that shit. 1.00

01:40:12.000 I've heard stories of veterans from Afghanistan saying that every night they always see this one kid that's bleeding there. 1.00

01:40:20.640 And they can't do anything.

01:40:21.980 And they hear, you know, these screams.

01:40:23.700 Knights.

01:40:24.340 They can't do anything.

01:40:25.120 And you have these specialized soldiers basically telling all the soldiers that, oh, this is just a culture.

01:40:34.320 This is a culture.

01:40:35.240 La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. 1.00

01:40:37.320 This is the shit we're going to be tolerant against. 1.00

01:40:42.380 This is the shit they want you to accept. 1.00

01:40:44.100 This is the shit we should just accept. 1.00

01:40:46.740 They want to accept this shit. 1.00

01:40:48.360 They want us to integrate with this shit. 1.00

01:40:50.360 So we go the halfway. 1.00

01:40:51.700 We go the halfway.

01:40:52.720 And, I mean, if you think about it, if you think about it, you know, liberalism's love of homosexuality kind of goes hand in hand with the multiculturalist agenda of including Islamist ideas in our world. 0.85

01:41:10.080 Yeah.

01:41:10.680 They go hand in hand.

01:41:12.740 I mean, there's no doubt about it.

01:41:14.520 Because they want the death of everything.

01:41:16.480 Socialism. 0.98

01:41:17.380 Socialism loves AIDS and racial warfare. 1.00

01:41:21.960 They love the ideas of people who fuck each other in the ass. 1.00

01:41:26.080 Especially if they're of the same gender, especially. 1.00

01:41:28.560 Yeah.

01:41:28.740 They love that.

01:41:29.680 That doesn't create offspring. 1.00

01:41:31.480 That doesn't create a strong generation of new people for the fatherland. 1.00

01:41:37.260 Islam loves butt-fucking young boys. 1.00

01:41:41.580 Yeah. 1.00

01:41:42.000 They inherently love that.

01:41:43.380 Speaking of.

01:41:43.900 Speaking of. 1.00

01:41:44.240 That is approximately 90% of Islam is about fucking young boys in the ass. 1.00

01:41:49.220 Pedophile, faggot religion. 1.00

01:41:51.060 So, if you combine pro-faggotry with, you know, the natural outcome of faggotry. 1.00

01:41:58.280 Well, then you have the perfect combination. 1.00

01:42:01.060 Islam and communism fits perfectly together. 0.99

01:42:05.080 Yeah.

01:42:05.540 And speaking of that, I want to transition to another news.

01:42:10.420 It's kind of old.

01:42:11.900 But it's still relevant.

01:42:13.700 Let's see the headline here.

01:42:15.540 I quote here.

01:42:16.520 We can't prove sex with children does them harm.

01:42:20.860 It says Labour-linked NCCL.

01:42:23.660 NCCL, that's National Council for Civil Liberties.

01:42:27.300 This is what they're saying right now.

01:42:29.500 Now, okay, let's take a quote from this article here.

01:42:34.020 Let's see here.

01:42:41.020 It regards, it's just insane.

01:42:43.960 They can't even see that this is wrong.

01:42:47.000 Now, there's actually a reason for this.

01:42:49.320 And this is the fetishization of human intellect.

01:42:52.560 They don't care about ideals.

01:42:54.220 They don't care about standards.

01:42:55.780 They don't care about morale.

01:42:56.680 They just care about their own brain.

01:42:58.580 Now, I actually read something that's very relevant about this by Vladimir Jelosky.

01:43:05.560 And he said that this insane drive for knowledge, for knowledge's sake, you know, intellectualism for intellectual's sake, is little agnosticism.

01:43:14.760 Because what are you doing?

01:43:16.060 You are placing your own intellect above your instincts.

01:43:19.840 You're placing your own intellect above everything that's true.

01:43:23.960 I mean, you know that this is wrong regardless if you can intellectually explain it.

01:43:27.600 You know, for example, that we shouldn't commit suicide.

01:43:31.100 Yet, you have existentialists who say that they can't find a reason not to suicide except blind hedonism.

01:43:36.500 So, when you reject morals, when you reject ideals, all you have is hedonism.

01:43:40.960 All you have is come, essentially.

01:43:42.540 And this is what motivates the leftists.

01:43:45.180 They are dead in the soul. 0.97

01:43:47.120 And that's why I can justify this filth.

01:43:49.700 And this is essentially agnosticism as well.

01:43:52.440 Because you're placing your own intellect above ideals.

01:43:56.820 You're placing your own intellect above God.

01:43:58.840 You're placing your own intellect above truth.

01:44:01.300 You don't care what's true.

01:44:02.200 You want to destroy truth.

01:44:03.960 Because you think that you'll liberate yourself now.

01:44:06.900 This is Gnosticism.

01:44:07.900 This is exactly Gnosticism.

01:44:09.260 Gnosticists call God evil.

01:44:12.000 They want to liberate themselves from God.

01:44:13.860 They think that there's another God that's above God.

01:44:16.560 Abraxas.

01:44:18.440 And Abraxas created a demiurge of some filth.

01:44:20.940 So, yeah, exactly.

01:44:22.720 They think they can liberate themselves from this by being evil.

01:44:25.160 Thus, you have this Halvoraknes guy. 0.97

01:44:28.500 This Abraxian, pedophile, Gnostic that thinks he finds God in this filth. 1.00

01:44:35.100 It makes perfect sense. 0.99

01:44:36.940 It makes perfect sense.

01:44:37.880 He's placing his own intellect above God.

01:44:40.560 This is literally satanic.

01:44:42.800 This is repeating what Lucifer did all over again.

01:44:45.180 So, the trick with Gnosticism is that they will tell you that matter, the world, is inherently evil.

01:44:54.000 And so that, you know, what they consider salvation is to escape the physical world.

01:45:02.840 And so how they do that is basically by starving themselves to death or by committing suicide or by engaging in non-procreative sex.

01:45:14.200 Because that's, you know, the last thing you want to do is create a new life, i.e. imprison a new spirit in the prison of matter.

01:45:24.920 And this is the same thing as blind hedonism.

01:45:28.160 I mean, they don't see a meaning in life.

01:45:30.340 So, life is meanness.

01:45:31.480 They want to liberate themselves from this life.

01:45:34.100 Exactly.

01:45:34.380 So, all they have is hedonism.

01:45:35.680 All they have is pleasure. 0.99

01:45:36.480 All they have is cum. 0.99

01:45:37.580 It makes perfect sense. 0.99

01:45:39.760 This is literally satanic.

01:45:40.880 Yeah, and if you look historically at the way that Gnosticism manifested itself in terms of, I mean, Catharism is a great example. 0.97

01:45:51.760 I mean, the Cathars promoted butt sex for, yeah, just this reason. 0.92

01:45:55.640 Because in sodomy, you don't conceive a new life. 0.99

01:45:58.100 And they also promoted abortion.

01:45:59.920 Because it would be better to kill a child in the womb and not expose it to the sufferings of living as an enslaved spirit in the material world than to allow it to come to term.

01:46:07.940 Then we have the Heres of the Nicolaites. 0.99

01:46:10.240 And they were literal cuckolds.

01:46:12.260 They thought that cuckoldry is a rejection of the desire to do your wife. 0.96

01:46:17.080 You know, impregnate your wife. 0.99

01:46:18.120 And therefore, you're above your desires, they claim.

01:46:21.380 So, therefore, cuckoldry is holy. 0.99

01:46:23.460 Yeah, this is why you have the Albigazanian Crusade and the famous aphorism, kill them all and the Lord will know his own. 1.00

01:46:37.920 You know? 0.98

01:46:38.160 Yeah.

01:46:38.780 How can we tell who is the heretic and who is it? 0.65

01:46:41.660 Well, at this point, it doesn't freaking matter.

01:46:43.660 I mean, this is also why intellectuals are, per definition, satanic. 0.91

01:46:48.420 I mean, they are. 0.88

01:46:49.060 I mean, intellectualism is satanic.

01:46:50.660 It's placing your intellect above instincts, above morals, above God.

01:46:53.720 And we see this as a trend in the whole of society.

01:46:56.480 This is, in its right term, the question.

01:46:59.440 The thing about these nihilistic hedonists is that their subscriptions to camhor models, as they like to call them, 0.93

01:47:13.520 these camhor models, these women who masturbate on the internet, who they so frequently give money to, 0.96

01:47:20.040 that is essentially their church tax. 0.98

01:47:23.720 That is their church tax.

01:47:25.540 That is their God. 1.00

01:47:27.540 leaving their genetic legacy in the pathetic remnants of a dirty sock. 1.00

01:47:34.380 Yeah. 1.00

01:47:34.880 That is all they believe in.

01:47:37.300 Well,

01:47:37.700 responsibility.

01:47:38.700 Well, yeah.

01:47:39.080 I mean, if you look at the modern Western world, like, the movie theater occupies the same position as the neighborhood temples once did.

01:47:49.300 And the household television occupies the same space that the household altar, the household icon once did.

01:48:01.660 Yeah.

01:48:01.880 Fireplace.

01:48:03.120 Yeah.

01:48:05.440 It's the same.

01:48:07.080 Well, and that's the thing.

01:48:07.980 It's, as it has been so eloquently pointed out by many others before us.

01:48:12.520 I mean, liberalism is a totalitarian ideology.

01:48:15.820 You know, democracy is, by definition, a totalitarian ideology.

01:48:19.720 It makes everything political, the domain of the state.

01:48:22.900 With that being said, can I quickly give a quick recommendation?

01:48:27.800 Please go ahead.

01:48:28.660 Yeah, sure.

01:48:28.960 No, it's very rare for me to recommend metapolitical material.

01:48:35.240 But in this case, regarding, like, the explanation of how liberalism and social democracy is totalitarian,

01:48:42.920 I must fully recommend the work of Tomislav Sunnik's Against Democracy and Equality,

01:48:50.680 a book that you can buy on Actos at this very moment.

01:48:53.940 I highly, and I say again, highly recommend everyone to read this work.

01:48:58.960 Yeah. 0.92

01:49:00.020 I mean, this is why you can't base a movement on intellectual masturbation. 1.00

01:49:06.420 That's why that always leads to shit. 1.00

01:49:08.680 That's why we need to get rid of this intellectualist circle jerk that many people advocate. 1.00

01:49:14.580 Because you get right back at it. 0.99

01:49:16.960 I mean, you can't explain why we shouldn't kill ourselves, right?

01:49:19.780 I mean, you can understand why we shouldn't kill ourselves, but you can't intellectual explainers, right?

01:49:24.360 So just the fact that you're alive means that you realize that there's something more than your brain, right?

01:49:31.900 One of my favorite quips from TRS's banners, they would have little, like, slogans at the top of their website,

01:49:38.560 was, nihilism is easy to start but hard to finish.

01:49:41.840 And there's no better way of saying it.

01:49:45.920 Yeah.

01:49:47.820 It's not comfortable to commit suicide.

01:49:49.800 That stands away from a kameez. 1.00

01:49:51.860 That's the only reason. 0.99

01:49:52.680 And then you get, like, when they feel less and less and less, they go to more and more extreme shit. 0.99

01:49:59.220 Eventually, they hit a wall. 1.00

01:50:00.460 And then they kill themselves. 0.99

01:50:03.740 The only reason they justify human existence is that other humans procure them for means to orgasms. 0.99

01:50:11.600 Yeah.

01:50:12.080 That is what they view you as. 1.00

01:50:13.860 The average liberal, they view you as nothing more but as a potential human dildo or a potential fuckhole. 1.00

01:50:21.680 Yeah. 1.00

01:50:21.760 Keep that in mind.

01:50:23.080 And that's why we are also discussing as well.

01:50:25.300 They have the same mentality.

01:50:26.960 There's no difference between we aboos and bronies. 0.98

01:50:30.180 Zero.

01:50:31.300 They are the same.

01:50:32.660 And also keep in mind that when we say liberal, we're also including 99.99% of so-called conservatives here.

01:50:40.760 Yes.

01:50:41.240 Yes.

01:50:41.520 Essentially, yes.

01:50:42.180 The conservative and the, quote-unquote, you know, parliamentarian right-winger is just a left-wing who's like 10 years behind in the rhetorical status quo.

01:50:55.180 Yesterday's liberal.

01:50:55.820 Essentially, they still agree.

01:50:57.280 Yeah, precisely.

01:50:57.860 They still agree with the liberal.

01:50:59.360 But you just think that, quote-unquote, they're going too fast.

01:51:03.040 That's where we're at.

01:51:04.680 There's no, and I say again, no reactionary means whatsoever in any of our current parliamentarian parties who's actually willing to crack the back of the leftist filth.

01:51:18.360 Indeed.

01:51:22.360 Doc Savage, would you like to cover your article?

01:51:25.040 Oh, oh, yes.

01:51:26.900 This, if this isn't a sign of the times, I don't know what it is.

01:51:31.360 Okay, so headline from the Washington Times.

01:51:36.240 OSU, that's Ohio State University, I believe.

01:51:40.420 OSU Group says, terrorist wrongly killed claims justice can't come, quote, from a cop's bullet, end quote.

01:51:53.780 Activists at Ohio State University held a protest this week that framed the killing of Abdul Razak Ali Artan during his ongoing terror attack as unjustified.

01:52:04.860 11 students were injured November the 28th when Mr. Artan turned his car into a weapon.

01:52:12.400 The Somali immigrant and logistics management student.

01:52:16.960 Seriously, there's degrees in logistics management?

01:52:19.180 I guess, I suppose.

01:52:21.300 Isn't that a fancy way of saying warehouse manager?

01:52:24.400 Essentially, yes.

01:52:26.200 Logistics management student was shot by Ohio State University Police Department Officer Alain Horujko.

01:52:32.920 Horujko? Horujko.

01:52:36.360 28, before he could execute victims with a butcher's knife.

01:52:44.380 And here's the best thing, the best quote.

01:52:49.900 And this is a direct quote from whoever the writer was speaking to it.

01:52:56.120 Quote, in some cases, the deceased may have committed acts of violence against others before they were killed.

01:53:02.920 And Ms. Abebe told the Lantern Thursday.

01:53:07.080 Perhaps they were domestic abusers. 0.99

01:53:09.060 Perhaps they threatened or killed others.

01:53:11.120 This possibility is not something to shy away from.

01:53:14.280 The protest against police brutality extends to the innocent and the guilty alike.

01:53:20.300 Because we know that no matter the crime, justice and due process don't come from a cop's bullet.

01:53:27.300 And the activist further added that right-wing pundits have used the attack to focus Islamophobia and xenophobia onto Columbus.

01:53:39.300 It's now racist to shoot a terrorist in the middle of his terrorist act.

01:53:55.460 Yeah, well, I mean, this is the logic.

01:53:58.900 That's the thing.

01:53:59.680 If we go back to, you know, it's a totally, it's just going to be 1984.

01:54:03.580 That's what it's going to end up, is the end goal.

01:54:06.320 Hold up.

01:54:06.640 And these are the exact people that Orwell was making fun of in his book, these communists.

01:54:11.840 He was lambasting their politics.

01:54:13.960 And it's just, it's like, yeah, war is peace.

01:54:16.540 Slavery is freedom.

01:54:18.440 I got a quick question.

01:54:20.980 So, if it's racist to shoot them while they commit their terrorist attack, does that imply that terrorism is a part of their culture?

01:54:30.680 Think about that for a second. 0.92

01:54:31.940 Oh, well, you know, they're just, you know, Muslims can't be racist because they've been oppressed, okay, and it's not a racial group, okay?

01:54:44.700 Is that you, Moshe?

01:54:46.480 Is that you, Moshe?

01:54:47.520 And racism is animus plus power, remember.

01:54:52.240 Yeah, exactly. 0.80

01:54:54.120 Only white people have power. 0.83

01:54:55.420 Didn't he have power, didn't he have power when he was wielding that vehicle into a mass of white people and wielding power as he was carrying a knife, something, a privilege the others didn't have?

01:55:09.900 Okay, that's, you have to ignore that, okay, please.

01:55:15.900 Delete this, delete this now, delete this now.

01:55:18.200 Okay, you're embarrassing yourself?

01:55:19.400 Okay, just delete this.

01:55:20.900 Seriously, read a book.

01:55:22.240 It's the current year.

01:55:23.340 Yeah.

01:55:25.680 If you can read this poster, you can read books.

01:55:32.540 Okay, I'm going to cover one more news story, and then I think we're going to wrap it up because I think we're getting to our show limit here.

01:55:39.840 So this is also from Russia Today.

01:55:43.320 Byline is,

01:55:44.360 Robot takeover begins, question mark.

01:55:46.720 Corporate giant Capita replaces staff with automatons.

01:55:49.660 Outsourcing giant Capita is to sack 2,000 staff and replace them with robots, and a move some fear will be repeated across the economy, leading to more than 1 million job losses.

01:56:02.240 The FTSE 100 listed firm, which collects the BBC license fee, that is to say the television tax, and provides services for the NHS, said it needed to axe 2,000 jobs to save money due to poor trading with corporate clients.

01:56:17.420 It said it would use the money it saved to fund investment into robotic workers across the whole company, according to The Guardian.

01:56:22.320 And I mean, I could go on, but usually the first couple of lines of these stories sum everything up.

01:56:28.660 I mean, this is a subject that we've covered before on the show, actually, you know, having to deal with transhumanism and the automatization of labor.

01:56:36.820 You know, and that's, what's going to happen is that the automatization of labor, the roboticization of labor, will in no way, absolutely zero ways, help the worker.

01:56:52.080 What it will do is it will serve to further concentrate capital in the hands of the oligarchs, the Jews, basically. 0.95

01:57:00.500 You know, it just, I described this scenario before.

01:57:05.960 What they want, essentially, is they want nobody living in rural areas.

01:57:10.520 They want all of the farms and the factories worked by robots, okay, with one or two, you know, trustworthy, you know, party members who manage them, okay, and repair them when they break down.

01:57:23.860 Yeah, it's replacing God's image with man's image, the machine, the robot.

01:57:28.800 But that's the filth they want.

01:57:30.500 They want to destroy everything that's above their own brain.

01:57:33.640 It's a red thread every year.

01:57:34.900 You see it everywhere.

01:57:38.360 Don't you know, individuality is very toxic.

01:57:41.180 I mean, but when individuality, by the same means, actually benefits the structure of economics, well, then it's good to be a healthy individual with a very, very particular taste of consumerism.

01:57:53.160 But, God forbid, oh, God, if you dare to step outside of the lines of the liberal mediocrity, yeah, how dare you?

01:58:02.780 We need the cyborg.

01:58:04.420 Exactly.

01:58:04.920 I mean, this is like the rabbi's golem, right? 0.95

01:58:08.180 The rabbi creates a man out of clay, and then the rabbi uses his sorcery to make it come alive. 0.77

01:58:15.620 This is exactly what we're seeing here right now.

01:58:17.740 It's the rabbi's golem. 0.96

01:58:18.940 We're all becoming golems.

01:58:20.060 Yeah, and the obvious in-game is to reduce the vast majority of the world population to welfare dependency, basically, to the mass proletariat of 1984.

01:58:38.000 Yeah.

01:58:38.180 Indolent, fed, overfed, drugged up, and plugged into a virtual reality, and completely meaningless in any real terms.

01:58:53.240 A non-threat to the hegeonomy of the oligarchy.

01:58:58.100 Human batteries.

01:58:59.640 Yes.

01:58:59.940 Essentially, and you'll be able to smoke all the GMO weed you want and drink all of the Pepsi that you want in this future scenario. 0.92

01:59:09.880 But you won't be able to own guns.

01:59:12.420 Pepsi?

01:59:12.900 Or land.

01:59:14.160 Beavis.

01:59:15.400 Or go to church.

01:59:17.320 Or go to church.

01:59:18.880 And on that note...

01:59:19.940 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:59:21.340 Unless there is a...

01:59:22.920 That's very hostile.

01:59:24.180 That's very toxic.

01:59:24.960 Unless there's anything else anybody would like to cover, I want to leave a message to our viewers, our listeners, rather.

01:59:30.680 I suppose people don't actually sit here and watch the bar tick by as they enjoy the dulcet and earnest sound of our discussion.

01:59:37.900 I wanted to say to our listeners that we appreciate every single one of you, and we really...

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02:01:12.900 It was a pleasure.

02:01:14.400 Exactly.

02:01:14.720 And our guests of honor today have been Skidas, and so I'll let them pronounce their own names, because I can't remember.

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Mysterium Fasces Episode 10 — Skydas ： Lithuanian Nationalism

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