Mysterium Fasces

00:00:00.000 Blessed are you, O Lord, teach me your statutes.

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00:00:41.700 You who did fashion me of old out of nothingness

00:00:46.960 and with your image divine did honor me.

00:00:53.060 But because of transgressions of your commandments

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00:01:46.920 Welcome to Mysterium Fasci's episode 13, Spiritual Warfare.

00:01:52.720 I'm your host, Florian Dyer.

00:01:55.260 And joining me today are Zyger of the Daily Stormer and Iron March.

00:01:59.680 Thank you, Zyger.

00:02:00.440 You are useful and loyal.

00:02:03.180 Thank you.

00:02:03.580 It's always fun to be there.

00:02:06.140 Also joining me is Doc Savage.

00:02:08.780 You should know him by now.

00:02:09.840 A regular contributor and an AeroDite fellow.

00:02:13.100 Glad to be here.

00:02:14.140 And as our special guest joining us once more on the program

00:02:17.980 is Dr. Father Matthew Raphael Johnson,

00:02:21.740 the arch-AeroDite, an excellent resource,

00:02:26.460 by far the smartest man in the far right today.

00:02:29.860 Thank you very much, Doctor.

00:02:31.680 Well, I'm knowledgeable.

00:02:33.080 That's not the same thing as being intelligent.

00:02:34.860 But I love this show and I love being on it.

00:02:37.300 Well, excellent.

00:02:37.920 We feel the same way here.

00:02:40.260 So there's a couple of different...

00:02:42.400 Today we're going to be discussing spiritual warfare,

00:02:44.920 which I think is a very important topic

00:02:46.580 that is rarely addressed in a formal sit-down format.

00:02:51.540 And that's exactly what Mysterium tries to do,

00:02:53.380 is address these topics that are never addressed.

00:02:56.080 But before we get into that,

00:02:57.160 there's a few different things that I want to get into.

00:03:00.620 First of all, I want to give a shout-out

00:03:02.600 to a new podcast that's come out called...

00:03:05.460 Let's see here.

00:03:06.740 It's called Helicopter Mom.

00:03:07.820 It's run by my friend, Julia Evola.

00:03:10.380 It's a podcast aimed at young Christian mothers,

00:03:13.840 essentially, right, Christian mothers. 0.58

00:03:15.500 I'll put a link in the description.

00:03:16.820 You guys should all go check that out.

00:03:18.700 You know, I know that she's a good woman, Orthodox,

00:03:21.720 and she certainly will appreciate the support.

00:03:25.040 Now, secondarily,

00:03:27.800 people have been asking me to chime in on the drama

00:03:31.980 that's been erupting in the far right,

00:03:34.580 and, you know, he's a meme like Enoch,

00:03:36.300 and, you know, the fact that his wife is Jewish,

00:03:39.000 and all of the doxing, and this kind of stuff.

00:03:41.920 So, you know, I'm not going to go on at this

00:03:45.020 for any real length,

00:03:46.460 but I figure I'd just give my thoughts really quickly.

00:03:50.020 So as some of you know,

00:03:51.900 I was, a couple of months ago,

00:03:55.540 banned from TRS.

00:03:58.380 I had been a member there

00:03:59.280 since, like, the first couple episodes of The Daily Show-Up.

00:04:01.720 It was also made for Sonnet on Grata,

00:04:04.300 which meant that anybody that had me on their podcasts

00:04:06.600 would also be banned,

00:04:07.880 and their podcast taken down.

00:04:10.120 Now, the reason why I was banned

00:04:13.560 was ostensibly because I had Nat on the program,

00:04:16.720 and nobody from Iron March was allowed on,

00:04:18.580 and Nat was from Iron March.

00:04:21.760 There are implicit reasons as to why this was.

00:04:25.720 You know, really, it's because Iron March

00:04:27.520 was agitating very hard against homosexuality,

00:04:29.900 and it was agitating against homosexuals

00:04:31.880 who were in the movement.

00:04:33.300 You know, Greg Johnson, Millennial Woes, 0.75

00:04:34.880 and then Richard Spencer,

00:04:36.440 to the extent that he promoted the acceptance

00:04:38.860 of homosexuality or had a soft position,

00:04:40.900 and that's why they were ostracized from the community,

00:04:43.760 and, you know, if you guys recall,

00:04:45.700 in my episode, Sodomy and Usury,

00:04:47.120 that was exactly the subject we were discussing.

00:04:49.120 So that's kind of the short picture there.

00:04:51.580 But all of that being said,

00:04:53.560 I have no animosity towards TRS.

00:04:55.560 I personally like Mike Enoch.

00:04:57.620 I think he's an affable guy.

00:04:58.940 I do have respect for him,

00:05:00.360 even though, you know, his wife is Jewish,

00:05:02.620 but I think that he's done, frankly.

00:05:04.880 You know, if you're in, this is the far right,

00:05:07.540 you know, we're supposed to, you know,

00:05:08.840 like national socialist, fascist, whatever.

00:05:11.600 His wife is Jewish, and she's not just Jewish. 0.90

00:05:14.540 She's, you know, pro-LGBT, heavily Jewish.

00:05:18.980 She's a kike, okay? 1.00

00:05:20.920 Like really, like a stereotypical figure.

00:05:24.840 And so, you know, he's done,

00:05:28.780 as far as I can see in terms of commentary or activism.

00:05:35.460 It's just, you know, as long as he has a Jewish wife, 0.99

00:05:38.200 there's just no way this can go on.

00:05:40.840 You know, you can't take him seriously.

00:05:43.040 And so I don't have any animosity.

00:05:44.520 I mean, I just think that that's basically

00:05:46.420 the long and short of it is you can't, 0.66

00:05:48.680 you know, you can't do this with a Jewish wife. 1.00

00:05:52.140 Now, that being said, you know, 0.54

00:05:53.400 I think that it's, this kind of goes to show you

00:05:56.260 that we, racist liberalism doesn't work, okay?

00:06:00.580 We've got a lot of people on the alt-right 0.54

00:06:03.340 who are basically racist liberals, 0.90

00:06:05.680 and they live a bourgeois lifestyle. 0.88

00:06:07.500 They support bourgeois policies.

00:06:09.000 They basically want to go back to 1950s America.

00:06:11.000 And, you know, these are people who have Jewish wives 0.82

00:06:15.120 and who are homos and have other sort of issues like this. 0.81

00:06:19.520 And so I think that the fundamental question

00:06:21.260 is not Mike Enoch or TRS or whatever,

00:06:23.600 like there's a lot of good stuff there,

00:06:24.980 a lot of good people there, a lot of good content,

00:06:26.940 but it's, you know, the worldview.

00:06:28.860 And until we basically bolt down and say, you know,

00:06:31.100 how many times does this have to happen

00:06:33.120 and are we going to get embarrassed before we say,

00:06:34.960 you know, racist liberalism is not part of the alt-right,

00:06:37.900 you know, that's the question.

00:06:38.720 Like, so I would just, you know, put it out there

00:06:40.900 that, like, we actually have to have a consistent worldview,

00:06:44.480 you know, and that has to mean, like, no Jews, 0.99

00:06:47.180 no fags, no non-whites, like, just the basic rules. 1.00

00:06:51.700 And if we just said that, we said no Jews, no fags, whatever, 1.00

00:06:54.620 as I've always said, we wouldn't have these issues, 0.99

00:06:56.780 you know, because people would know this.

00:06:59.080 You know, it just wouldn't be tolerated.

00:07:00.840 And if somebody, if it came up,

00:07:02.380 then we would just kick them out

00:07:03.700 and it wouldn't be a problem.

00:07:05.480 So that's kind of my little spiel.

00:07:06.820 That's basically what I've been saying all along.

00:07:08.720 I don't think people should be,

00:07:10.940 I think people ideological critique and attack,

00:07:13.280 that's one thing.

00:07:14.020 Personal attack is not, you know,

00:07:15.660 I've seen people wishing,

00:07:16.840 saying that they're glad about the seventh son

00:07:18.640 and my game not being doxxed

00:07:19.660 because they hope this will hurt their families.

00:07:22.420 I think that this is despicable.

00:07:24.500 I think that this is black-hearted.

00:07:26.500 And I think that we need to have charity

00:07:28.460 with one another above all.

00:07:30.260 But charity does not mean indulging evil. 1.00

00:07:33.220 Charity does not mean indulging stupidity. 0.99

00:07:35.760 It means honesty, 0.99

00:07:37.220 honestly and fraternally correcting both of these things.

00:07:41.340 And that's basically all I've got to say on the subject.

00:07:46.280 So, with that out of the way,

00:07:48.740 I want to get into just a little bit.

00:07:50.620 We don't usually in Mysterium,

00:07:51.980 you know, talk about current news,

00:07:53.820 but yesterday was the inauguration

00:07:55.460 of President Donald Trump.

00:07:57.240 I figured we'd just talk at him here

00:07:58.460 for 15, 20 minutes.

00:07:59.480 So, you know,

00:08:03.440 I'll open it up.

00:08:06.940 You know, what do you guys think?

00:08:08.500 How are you, you know, I know,

00:08:09.640 how are you feeling about this?

00:08:11.160 Well, I think this really marks

00:08:14.320 the point where the relationship

00:08:17.040 of, you know, the right and the internet,

00:08:20.280 alt-right, fascist movement with Trump,

00:08:23.280 now is the time that it's going to change.

00:08:25.220 Because, you know,

00:08:26.140 up until this point,

00:08:28.360 a large part of, like,

00:08:30.060 the way that we covered Trump,

00:08:32.160 the way that we talked about him

00:08:33.900 and, you know, made memes

00:08:35.200 and all that stuff,

00:08:36.280 it was kind of a tactic

00:08:38.600 to use the Trump phenomenon

00:08:41.520 to promote ourselves.

00:08:43.140 And it did, you know, work.

00:08:45.240 You know, the strategy worked.

00:08:47.640 You know, Hillary Clinton

00:08:48.920 saw that we were memeing about him

00:08:51.620 and then she used the alt-right

00:08:53.960 and all that stuff to attack him.

00:08:56.180 And, you know, that was part of the plan.

00:08:57.720 At least that was part of the plan

00:08:58.820 of the people who were kind of forward-thinking

00:09:01.960 and who kind of understood

00:09:03.020 the way that these things work.

00:09:05.240 Some people sincerely believed,

00:09:07.040 I guess, that Trump was the

00:09:08.600 reincarnation of Adolf Hitler.

00:09:10.480 But I think the smarter people were like,

00:09:12.460 well, you know,

00:09:13.040 Trump has his positive points

00:09:15.320 and negative points,

00:09:16.640 but at the very least,

00:09:17.900 we can use this phenomenon

00:09:19.820 for our benefit.

00:09:20.700 But now that he's in power,

00:09:22.900 now we're going to be looking at things

00:09:26.520 and critiquing things

00:09:27.840 a lot more objectively,

00:09:30.980 shall we say.

00:09:32.080 And, you know,

00:09:33.380 it might be the case

00:09:35.280 that in some cases

00:09:36.160 it would be good for us

00:09:37.400 to severely criticize Trump

00:09:39.560 or at least, yeah,

00:09:41.180 I mean, show what's really going on.

00:09:43.360 And it's possible that,

00:09:45.120 like, we don't know exactly

00:09:46.560 what Trump's opinions

00:09:48.840 and policies are going to be.

00:09:51.320 And it might be that,

00:09:52.740 you know,

00:09:53.300 there's going to be

00:09:54.000 a lot of compromise.

00:09:55.540 And in that case,

00:09:56.280 like, there's no real reason

00:09:58.060 for us not to pounce

00:10:00.140 and criticize.

00:10:01.540 Because really,

00:10:02.420 criticizing others

00:10:05.880 who are to our left

00:10:07.360 is a big part of the way

00:10:08.840 that we promote ourselves

00:10:09.980 and acquire recruits.

00:10:12.440 I mean, if, you know,

00:10:14.600 these Trump people

00:10:15.840 are disappointed,

00:10:18.520 then they'll be looking

00:10:19.280 for a more radical alternative.

00:10:20.900 And by criticizing him,

00:10:22.460 we're going to be able to,

00:10:24.220 you know,

00:10:24.820 bring people closer

00:10:26.540 to the truth.

00:10:28.360 So I think, yeah,

00:10:29.980 a change in our relationship

00:10:31.500 with him.

00:10:31.840 And even, you know,

00:10:34.340 outlets that have been,

00:10:36.020 you know,

00:10:36.860 very relentlessly promoting Trump,

00:10:38.860 they're, you know,

00:10:39.640 if they know

00:10:40.220 what's good for them,

00:10:41.820 they're going to change that

00:10:43.600 and, you know,

00:10:44.960 become more critical, probably.

00:10:46.500 I think that's the most useful

00:10:47.520 way to go about it.

00:10:51.480 Yeah.

00:10:52.220 I think that you're,

00:10:53.460 that's astute

00:10:54.520 and also correct.

00:10:56.840 And so the way

00:10:57.320 I kind of look at it

00:10:58.040 is like this.

00:11:00.460 I want to make two points.

00:11:02.400 One is like,

00:11:03.400 no, the state is still

00:11:04.400 fundamentally illegitimate.

00:11:06.440 That's what we cannot forget

00:11:07.960 is that we don't have

00:11:09.640 our victory

00:11:10.020 until we actually

00:11:11.600 seize control

00:11:12.440 of the state apparatus

00:11:13.560 or dissolve it

00:11:14.680 and make something

00:11:15.760 that's fundamentally just,

00:11:18.200 that's in accord

00:11:18.760 with natural and divine law.

00:11:20.500 And so until that happens,

00:11:21.520 you know,

00:11:21.660 we haven't won,

00:11:22.340 our fight's not over,

00:11:23.500 and even then

00:11:24.180 we still have to fight

00:11:24.840 to maintain it.

00:11:26.080 And so this,

00:11:26.720 the way I would describe this

00:11:27.800 is if people are familiar

00:11:28.920 with biblical history,

00:11:31.140 there's two great conquerors

00:11:33.580 of the Israelites

00:11:34.340 that come to mind.

00:11:35.380 One is Antiochus IV,

00:11:36.840 Epiphanes,

00:11:37.980 and one is Cyrus the Great.

00:11:40.500 So Antiochus is like

00:11:42.200 Hillary Clinton.

00:11:43.080 This guy was the Greek king

00:11:46.000 of,

00:11:48.080 I think he was the Seleucid king,

00:11:52.020 or not the Seleucid king,

00:11:53.020 rather,

00:11:53.300 but the Egyptian king.

00:11:56.780 And he conquered Israel, 0.99

00:11:58.240 and he went into the temple,

00:11:59.220 and he erected a statue to Zeus,

00:12:02.760 and he cut off all of the Maccabees,

00:12:04.280 who were the dynastic kings

00:12:05.440 at the time,

00:12:06.020 and he essentially,

00:12:06.720 you know, 0.54

00:12:06.980 raped the civilization 0.99

00:12:07.760 and defiled its temples.

00:12:10.260 And then there's Cyrus the Great,

00:12:12.000 who was,

00:12:13.480 as most people know,

00:12:14.300 the founder of the Sassanid dynasty

00:12:15.740 in Persia,

00:12:16.800 who conquered Babylon

00:12:17.960 and freed the Israelites

00:12:19.360 from their captivity.

00:12:21.780 And so he was also,

00:12:23.300 you know,

00:12:23.520 obviously not a,

00:12:24.720 not a legitimate monarch of Israel,

00:12:27.080 or not a legitimate ruler,

00:12:28.600 but he did,

00:12:29.380 you know,

00:12:29.740 he did allow religious freedom.

00:12:31.600 He allowed the diaspora

00:12:32.600 to return to their homelands, 1.00

00:12:33.800 he allowed them to gather

00:12:34.820 and organize in their communities,

00:12:36.500 he allowed life to go on

00:12:37.520 much more normally.

00:12:39.180 And so that's what I think

00:12:39.960 is kind of the dichotomy,

00:12:41.440 is like,

00:12:41.740 you know,

00:12:41.920 we should always,

00:12:42.720 we don't want Antiochus,

00:12:44.080 we don't want Cyrus,

00:12:45.620 but Cyrus is, 0.59

00:12:46.740 for damn sure, 0.90

00:12:47.740 better than Antiochus. 0.96

00:12:52.260 Yeah,

00:12:52.720 even if Trump implements,

00:12:54.800 sorry,

00:12:55.200 go ahead.

00:12:57.080 Go ahead,

00:12:57.760 Dr. Johnson.

00:12:58.480 Okay,

00:12:58.700 thank you.

00:13:00.840 I think it's a sign

00:13:01.920 of political immaturity

00:13:02.860 to believe that ideals

00:13:04.880 could ever actually become real

00:13:06.220 with no compromise

00:13:07.880 in politics.

00:13:09.660 It doesn't matter

00:13:10.320 how strong you are,

00:13:11.220 how powerful you are,

00:13:11.940 how popular you are,

00:13:13.200 you're going to have to compromise

00:13:14.380 with elite centers of power.

00:13:17.640 So,

00:13:18.140 an ideology on the one hand

00:13:19.620 and an administration

00:13:20.520 on the other hand

00:13:21.400 is apples and oranges.

00:13:22.840 so this is,

00:13:26.080 yeah,

00:13:26.200 this is a big problem

00:13:26.900 I have.

00:13:27.360 Now,

00:13:27.540 when the violence

00:13:28.500 erupted

00:13:29.300 and the Disrupt J-20

00:13:32.120 made all of its threats

00:13:33.540 which were suspiciously,

00:13:35.480 you know,

00:13:36.420 violent

00:13:36.820 for a group

00:13:37.640 that's very large,

00:13:39.200 I immediately went to work

00:13:40.840 trying to figure out

00:13:41.560 who's financing them.

00:13:42.920 This kind of a project

00:13:44.000 takes a lot of money

00:13:44.940 and a lot of professionalism

00:13:45.920 to put together

00:13:46.460 and I stumbled across

00:13:48.820 the two big investment firms,

00:13:51.400 maybe this is more

00:13:52.120 common knowledge

00:13:52.880 than I realize,

00:13:53.600 but both in New England,

00:13:57.300 the Boston Syndicate

00:13:58.000 and the Boston Syndicate

00:13:58.920 and they represent

00:14:00.600 a very specific demographic though

00:14:02.040 and I have kind of

00:14:03.980 a tentative view here

00:14:05.160 that these are

00:14:06.600 very,

00:14:07.060 very young,

00:14:08.580 you know,

00:14:08.900 millennial millionaires.

00:14:11.660 Sort of the informal leader

00:14:13.160 at least for a while

00:14:13.880 was Brian Shin

00:14:14.720 of Goldman Sachs

00:14:15.580 but he's not been

00:14:16.560 with Goldman Sachs

00:14:17.320 for a long time.

00:14:18.480 But seeing the list

00:14:19.220 of people financing

00:14:20.120 the Disrupt J-20

00:14:21.120 and they have,

00:14:23.120 you know,

00:14:23.360 different non-profits

00:14:24.760 that follow money to them,

00:14:26.560 they all looked very similar.

00:14:28.580 They were all in their 20s,

00:14:30.000 they were all millionaires,

00:14:30.940 they were all Ivy League,

00:14:32.700 mostly it was Harvard Business School

00:14:33.940 and MIT

00:14:34.480 which is not Ivy League

00:14:35.920 but in that same category

00:14:37.140 which I don't think

00:14:38.940 is a coincidence.

00:14:40.220 There seems to be a coup

00:14:41.260 as for the French revolutionary

00:14:43.200 bourgeois jacobins

00:14:44.500 roughly from the same class.

00:14:47.020 This is a young millennial

00:14:48.160 millionaires club

00:14:49.340 demanding power.

00:14:51.380 And this is a group

00:14:51.940 that's finally money

00:14:52.560 into Disrupt J-20

00:14:54.240 and I'm wondering

00:14:54.880 if they've had enough

00:14:56.260 even with people

00:14:56.860 like Goldman Sachs

00:14:57.760 and George Soros

00:14:59.940 and want something

00:15:01.080 that you're talking about there.

00:15:03.780 Yeah,

00:15:03.940 the Disrupt movement,

00:15:04.620 yeah.

00:15:05.540 Yeah,

00:15:05.660 that particular group.

00:15:07.000 I'm not familiar

00:15:07.920 with that organization.

00:15:09.260 Okay,

00:15:09.520 this is a group

00:15:10.160 that said

00:15:10.700 they were going

00:15:11.180 to shut down

00:15:11.760 the inauguration

00:15:12.440 and they were going

00:15:13.960 to do everything

00:15:14.880 that they were going 0.99

00:15:15.440 to kill Donald Trump 1.00

00:15:16.140 and again 1.00

00:15:18.740 hashtag Disrupt

00:15:19.840 J-20

00:15:20.400 is the name

00:15:21.100 of the group.

00:15:21.840 This was the umbrella

00:15:22.500 organization

00:15:23.200 for most of the

00:15:24.080 very violent organizations.

00:15:26.020 It took me a long time

00:15:26.860 to figure out

00:15:27.360 where this money

00:15:27.820 is coming from

00:15:28.460 but it can't be

00:15:31.500 a coincidence

00:15:31.860 that it's all

00:15:33.260 from a group

00:15:34.060 of people

00:15:34.400 that have so much

00:15:35.640 in common.

00:15:36.720 They're even all

00:15:37.040 from the same state.

00:15:39.080 My greatest fear

00:15:40.100 and I don't,

00:15:41.280 you know,

00:15:41.480 Donald Trump is,

00:15:42.900 you know,

00:15:43.700 he's not a savior figure

00:15:44.920 at all but

00:15:45.420 is that General Mattis

00:15:47.540 who is a long time

00:15:49.160 enemy of Donald Trump

00:15:49.960 who is in with this group

00:15:51.760 is going to be used

00:15:53.240 to get rid of him

00:15:53.980 at one point

00:15:54.480 if push comes to shove.

00:15:56.340 I know that's extreme

00:15:57.040 but General Mattis

00:15:58.620 was the man

00:15:59.220 that George Soros

00:16:00.640 approached

00:16:01.180 and the American

00:16:02.580 spectator

00:16:03.060 approached

00:16:03.860 to run against Trump

00:16:04.700 during the crisis

00:16:05.460 as a Republican

00:16:06.020 and he said no.

00:16:08.980 Now he's

00:16:09.560 Secretary of Defense

00:16:10.280 saying that we have

00:16:11.600 to have a

00:16:12.360 American,

00:16:14.380 increased American

00:16:15.160 military presence

00:16:15.900 around the world

00:16:16.560 and he's demanding

00:16:17.580 war with Russia

00:16:18.380 as he said

00:16:18.900 to the Heritage Foundation

00:16:19.620 last year.

00:16:21.240 He's now

00:16:21.640 Secretary of Defense.

00:16:23.660 I don't know

00:16:23.960 if you noticed

00:16:24.400 but there was

00:16:25.740 no media

00:16:26.580 attack

00:16:27.300 on this man.

00:16:28.680 All of a sudden

00:16:29.340 Donald Trump

00:16:29.760 was okay

00:16:30.280 just where

00:16:31.100 General James Mattis

00:16:32.280 was concerned.

00:16:34.120 I know I crammed

00:16:34.920 a lot of stuff

00:16:35.360 into a few words

00:16:36.400 there.

00:16:37.300 That's my

00:16:37.760 general opinion.

00:16:39.040 The big point

00:16:39.640 though

00:16:39.900 this seems

00:16:41.080 to be a very

00:16:41.620 radical group

00:16:42.300 of young

00:16:42.760 millionaires

00:16:43.340 from Harvard

00:16:44.380 and this bothers

00:16:46.340 me.

00:16:50.580 Doc Savage

00:16:51.280 or Zagra

00:16:51.660 would you like

00:16:52.040 to go?

00:16:52.280 Well you know

00:16:53.780 it's always

00:16:55.060 never ceases

00:16:57.100 to amuse me

00:16:57.880 how often

00:16:58.500 things come

00:16:59.340 back to Harvard

00:16:59.980 as an institution

00:17:01.100 as being

00:17:02.220 the sort of

00:17:02.780 the ground zero

00:17:03.860 of all of

00:17:05.560 these movements

00:17:06.260 and mores

00:17:08.980 and just

00:17:09.820 basically

00:17:10.620 degeneracy

00:17:11.400 from the very

00:17:13.900 beginning.

00:17:15.660 I know we've

00:17:16.560 mentioned Harvard

00:17:17.120 as an institution

00:17:17.780 before here

00:17:18.440 many times

00:17:19.000 of course

00:17:19.340 more broadly

00:17:21.680 regarding

00:17:24.340 you know

00:17:25.300 Trump

00:17:27.280 and

00:17:27.920 inauguration

00:17:30.660 you're

00:17:33.880 absolutely

00:17:34.160 correct

00:17:34.580 the system

00:17:35.820 is

00:17:36.460 completely

00:17:37.320 illegitimate

00:17:38.400 so we

00:17:40.440 cannot be

00:17:41.060 too excited

00:17:41.680 that a

00:17:43.260 slightly

00:17:44.200 less

00:17:44.960 hostile

00:17:46.400 power

00:17:47.100 is in charge

00:17:47.700 of this

00:17:48.020 system

00:17:48.400 it's still

00:17:50.220 a fundamentally

00:17:51.120 hostile

00:17:51.880 system

00:17:52.460 you know

00:17:53.360 personally

00:17:54.320 I'm a monarchist

00:17:55.120 and I won't be

00:17:55.880 particularly happy

00:17:56.700 until we've

00:17:57.920 gone back

00:17:58.260 to Kings

00:17:58.660 but all that

00:18:01.820 being said

00:18:02.380 you know

00:18:03.300 it does feel

00:18:04.300 like a sense

00:18:05.080 of relief

00:18:05.580 when the boot

00:18:06.140 you know

00:18:07.740 lifts off

00:18:09.260 the neck

00:18:09.660 and I think

00:18:11.340 that's

00:18:11.640 something

00:18:12.000 like our

00:18:13.720 position

00:18:14.040 currently

00:18:14.540 yeah

00:18:16.180 I mean

00:18:16.520 we can never

00:18:17.360 forget

00:18:17.900 that even

00:18:18.740 if Trump

00:18:19.820 implements

00:18:20.540 all his

00:18:21.320 policies

00:18:21.880 and even

00:18:22.700 goes further

00:18:23.240 than them

00:18:23.680 that's still

00:18:25.080 going to be

00:18:25.460 very very

00:18:26.400 far off

00:18:27.180 from where

00:18:27.840 we want

00:18:28.280 to go

00:18:28.540 so

00:18:29.260 if

00:18:30.140 all of this

00:18:32.360 happens

00:18:32.840 at the

00:18:33.380 expense

00:18:33.980 of

00:18:35.220 you know

00:18:36.180 us

00:18:36.620 installing

00:18:37.340 real justice

00:18:39.660 then

00:18:40.700 there's

00:18:42.100 there's no

00:18:42.240 room

00:18:42.480 to rejoice

00:18:43.040 here

00:18:43.380 but

00:18:44.420 if

00:18:44.920 we can

00:18:45.840 adapt

00:18:46.420 to the

00:18:46.920 situation

00:18:47.480 and use

00:18:48.340 it to our

00:18:48.660 advantage

00:18:49.080 and

00:18:49.820 there will

00:18:50.760 be some

00:18:51.100 relief

00:18:51.480 like you've

00:18:52.200 said

00:18:52.360 Doc Savage

00:18:52.900 then

00:18:54.320 you know

00:18:54.660 that's

00:18:55.240 fine

00:18:55.500 and

00:18:56.020 whatever

00:18:57.320 what's

00:18:57.720 important

00:18:58.020 is just

00:18:58.420 to

00:18:58.800 you know

00:18:59.140 remain

00:18:59.700 vigilant

00:19:00.780 and adapt

00:19:01.980 to

00:19:02.140 circumstances

00:19:02.760 that's

00:19:03.920 all

00:19:04.140 yep

00:19:06.080 I would

00:19:06.680 reinforce

00:19:07.060 that

00:19:07.360 I think

00:19:07.780 that's

00:19:08.060 a pretty

00:19:08.340 good

00:19:08.480 broad

00:19:08.720 overview

00:19:09.100 and I'll

00:19:09.560 make my

00:19:09.840 last point

00:19:10.340 and then we

00:19:10.660 can get

00:19:10.940 into the

00:19:11.300 show topic

00:19:12.560 for today

00:19:13.040 is that

00:19:13.940 I'm worried

00:19:14.700 that Donald

00:19:16.500 Trump

00:19:16.840 is part

00:19:17.820 of a

00:19:18.000 dialectic

00:19:18.580 I'm worried

00:19:19.560 that

00:19:20.100 Donald Trump

00:19:21.640 was purposefully

00:19:22.720 set up

00:19:23.280 as this

00:19:24.500 kind of

00:19:25.460 pseudo-savior

00:19:26.380 populist

00:19:27.020 figure

00:19:27.440 against

00:19:28.020 Hillary Clinton

00:19:28.840 so that

00:19:29.960 the

00:19:30.460 financial

00:19:31.600 elite

00:19:32.140 the

00:19:32.940 you know

00:19:34.440 Anglo-Jewish

00:19:35.720 free-misonic

00:19:36.900 alliance

00:19:37.380 based out

00:19:38.480 of New York

00:19:39.080 and the

00:19:39.340 city of

00:19:39.700 London

00:19:40.020 could

00:19:41.320 redirect

00:19:41.740 and manage

00:19:42.820 the

00:19:43.300 discontent

00:19:44.060 and fervor

00:19:44.620 in a way

00:19:45.140 that would

00:19:45.560 not destroy

00:19:46.460 the entire

00:19:47.140 international

00:19:47.720 system

00:19:48.140 that they

00:19:48.400 created

00:19:48.860 but rather

00:19:50.140 in fact

00:19:50.820 would strengthen

00:19:51.660 it

00:19:52.000 you know

00:19:53.600 I'm worried

00:19:53.980 that they've

00:19:54.360 realized

00:19:54.800 that they

00:19:55.140 can't

00:19:55.460 actually

00:19:55.800 destroy

00:19:56.360 wholesale

00:19:56.820 America

00:19:58.040 which is

00:19:58.540 the linchpin

00:19:59.060 of the

00:19:59.400 empire

00:19:59.840 on its

00:20:00.880 home territory

00:20:01.440 because that

00:20:02.000 means the

00:20:02.360 empire will

00:20:02.840 collapse

00:20:03.280 and that

00:20:04.020 that is

00:20:04.720 why

00:20:05.820 they

00:20:06.120 you know

00:20:06.820 why Donald

00:20:07.700 Trump

00:20:08.020 has been

00:20:09.080 allowed to

00:20:09.620 progress

00:20:09.920 this far

00:20:10.560 you know

00:20:12.020 people will

00:20:12.460 say well

00:20:12.940 like he's

00:20:13.780 been massively

00:20:14.360 opposed

00:20:15.120 by

00:20:16.120 you know

00:20:17.320 everybody

00:20:17.700 by the

00:20:18.180 bankers

00:20:18.580 by media

00:20:19.740 well I

00:20:20.320 mean I

00:20:20.540 would say

00:20:20.800 like

00:20:21.020 in the

00:20:23.900 1930s

00:20:24.860 okay

00:20:25.220 Hitler 0.78

00:20:26.700 after he

00:20:28.180 started to

00:20:29.000 come to

00:20:29.440 power

00:20:29.720 there was

00:20:30.220 factions that

00:20:31.040 both

00:20:31.300 opposed

00:20:32.620 him

00:20:32.940 and

00:20:33.480 tried to

00:20:33.720 play

00:20:33.880 a

00:20:34.000 war

00:20:34.360 mongering

00:20:34.880 but also

00:20:36.840 factions who

00:20:37.560 funded him

00:20:38.160 and were

00:20:39.480 trying to

00:20:40.260 appease him

00:20:40.900 because they

00:20:42.140 wanted

00:20:42.980 conflict in

00:20:43.940 Europe

00:20:44.180 they wanted

00:20:45.680 to be able

00:20:46.180 to sweep

00:20:46.680 away

00:20:47.240 Germany as

00:20:48.860 a threat

00:20:49.380 to the

00:20:49.960 global power

00:20:51.140 establishment

00:20:51.700 and because

00:20:52.800 these banking

00:20:53.780 cartels

00:20:54.960 benefit from

00:20:56.360 warfare

00:20:57.420 there

00:20:57.540 because they

00:20:59.140 are on

00:20:59.600 both sides

00:21:00.200 so I

00:21:00.620 would say

00:21:01.000 that

00:21:01.220 that's not

00:21:02.380 to say

00:21:02.600 that Hitler 0.98

00:21:02.900 wasn't

00:21:04.120 legit

00:21:04.640 maybe Donald

00:21:05.720 Trump is

00:21:06.140 legit

00:21:06.480 but I'm

00:21:06.880 saying that

00:21:07.400 there is

00:21:08.020 they could

00:21:11.380 be basically

00:21:12.220 trying to

00:21:12.720 guide or

00:21:13.380 manage these

00:21:14.100 independent

00:21:14.560 variables in

00:21:15.420 directions which

00:21:16.060 work into

00:21:16.500 their long

00:21:16.980 term agenda

00:21:17.560 and so I

00:21:18.700 think that it's

00:21:19.120 just important

00:21:19.760 that as you

00:21:20.460 say we

00:21:21.160 remain aware

00:21:22.580 and vigilant

00:21:23.340 and we do

00:21:23.980 not get

00:21:24.460 complacent

00:21:25.140 we remember

00:21:26.720 that we

00:21:27.280 you know

00:21:27.740 we're

00:21:30.200 living in

00:21:30.940 a Zionist

00:21:31.480 occupation

00:21:31.780 government

00:21:32.220 and that

00:21:33.080 until that

00:21:34.760 occupation

00:21:35.220 government

00:21:35.620 is defeated

00:21:36.320 there is

00:21:37.680 no room

00:21:38.160 for rest

00:21:38.580 politically

00:21:39.040 I want to

00:21:41.140 disagree with

00:21:41.540 you just

00:21:41.800 on the one

00:21:42.420 point that

00:21:43.640 the regime

00:21:44.200 and by that

00:21:45.280 I mean this

00:21:45.800 public private

00:21:46.980 oligarchical

00:21:47.840 system globally

00:21:48.760 set up

00:21:50.120 Trump in

00:21:50.560 this position

00:21:51.120 I can't

00:21:52.620 I understand

00:21:53.800 where you're

00:21:54.140 coming from

00:21:54.580 and I get

00:21:55.020 the worry

00:21:55.420 but I

00:21:56.460 can't believe

00:21:57.200 it

00:21:57.840 number one

00:21:58.620 I have

00:21:59.300 never come

00:21:59.740 across a

00:22:00.400 campaign

00:22:00.940 not even

00:22:02.260 in 1860

00:22:02.980 where the

00:22:04.160 hatred and

00:22:04.760 contempt

00:22:05.120 have been

00:22:05.460 poured out

00:22:05.960 from every

00:22:06.360 elite media

00:22:06.920 source in

00:22:08.180 this country

00:22:08.500 against someone

00:22:09.000 number two

00:22:09.500 he hasn't

00:22:10.280 received a

00:22:10.660 dime from

00:22:11.180 many of

00:22:11.440 these people

00:22:11.920 number three

00:22:14.260 he has

00:22:15.100 survived I

00:22:16.020 think four

00:22:16.380 assassination

00:22:16.780 attempts right

00:22:17.520 now

00:22:17.740 we know

00:22:19.260 that the

00:22:19.660 billionaires

00:22:20.220 globally

00:22:21.180 have conspired

00:22:22.240 to get rid

00:22:22.560 of this guy

00:22:23.000 and finally

00:22:23.700 the bigger

00:22:25.280 issue though

00:22:25.840 is the

00:22:26.700 regime

00:22:27.100 isn't all

00:22:28.000 powerful

00:22:28.380 they're

00:22:29.480 powerful

00:22:29.860 they control

00:22:30.480 a huge

00:22:30.940 amount of

00:22:31.260 money

00:22:31.480 and governments

00:22:32.460 but they're

00:22:33.560 struggling right

00:22:34.120 now

00:22:34.360 they're being

00:22:36.540 exposed every

00:22:37.500 day

00:22:37.700 I just don't

00:22:39.520 think they're

00:22:39.960 that overwhelmingly

00:22:40.700 powerful

00:22:41.220 that they can

00:22:43.160 create someone

00:22:44.080 like this

00:22:44.600 and then

00:22:45.500 create an

00:22:47.180 entire

00:22:47.620 elite movement

00:22:49.340 of millions

00:22:50.000 of millions

00:22:50.020 of people

00:22:50.340 trying to

00:22:50.660 destroy

00:22:50.940 I think

00:22:52.320 that gives

00:22:52.720 them a

00:22:53.180 unity

00:22:53.460 and a

00:22:54.420 rationality

00:22:55.000 that they

00:22:55.220 don't have

00:22:55.620 anymore

00:22:55.900 I think

00:22:57.500 the regime

00:22:57.880 right now

00:22:58.280 is struggling

00:22:58.720 and my

00:23:00.080 biggest fear

00:23:00.780 or one of

00:23:01.380 my biggest

00:23:01.660 fears

00:23:01.980 is that

00:23:03.040 they're

00:23:03.400 kind of

00:23:03.700 like a

00:23:04.020 cornered

00:23:04.380 animal

00:23:04.720 wounded

00:23:06.240 that will

00:23:07.700 then lash

00:23:08.200 out in

00:23:09.200 more and

00:23:09.560 more rational

00:23:10.100 ways

00:23:10.480 I just think

00:23:11.300 you're giving

00:23:11.640 the regime

00:23:12.220 more unity

00:23:13.860 and power

00:23:14.620 and focus

00:23:15.300 than they

00:23:16.460 really have

00:23:16.960 Trump

00:23:17.260 was

00:23:17.500 self-financed

00:23:18.240 and it

00:23:20.500 goes back

00:23:20.820 to what I

00:23:21.080 said about

00:23:21.360 General Mattis

00:23:22.000 they did

00:23:23.280 have elite

00:23:23.660 candidates

00:23:24.000 they did

00:23:24.380 have people

00:23:24.720 that they

00:23:24.940 were

00:23:25.080 Mattis

00:23:25.580 was the

00:23:25.860 one

00:23:25.980 they were

00:23:26.220 trying to

00:23:26.540 groom

00:23:26.760 for this

00:23:27.200 he would

00:23:27.940 have been

00:23:28.180 a perfect

00:23:28.520 example

00:23:28.900 of what

00:23:29.160 you're

00:23:29.280 talking

00:23:29.580 about

00:23:29.900 Trump

00:23:31.520 he's going

00:23:33.500 to be 0.97

00:23:33.740 cut down

00:23:34.080 to size

00:23:34.440 in Washington

00:23:34.860 D.C.

00:23:35.340 he is no

00:23:35.840 safer figure

00:23:36.360 by any

00:23:36.720 means

00:23:37.060 but I

00:23:39.220 just think

00:23:39.660 it's going

00:23:39.940 too far

00:23:40.360 to say

00:23:40.780 that this

00:23:41.120 is some

00:23:41.540 controlled

00:23:42.860 opposition

00:23:43.340 fair enough

00:23:46.640 critique

00:23:47.020 and I

00:23:47.560 didn't

00:23:48.000 this was

00:23:50.040 my worry

00:23:50.660 rather than

00:23:51.340 my speculation

00:23:52.000 is what I

00:23:52.900 would say

00:23:53.280 I completely

00:23:55.040 understand where

00:23:55.700 you're coming

00:23:56.000 from

00:23:56.300 because now

00:23:57.740 that he's

00:23:58.020 president

00:23:58.380 he's now

00:23:59.240 going to be

00:23:59.500 dealing with

00:24:00.140 hundreds of

00:24:00.740 thousands of

00:24:01.320 unionized

00:24:02.000 career bureaucrats

00:24:03.160 not to mention

00:24:04.660 judges and

00:24:05.260 local government

00:24:05.720 he's not

00:24:06.780 able to do

00:24:07.200 very much

00:24:07.660 he has to

00:24:10.480 go through

00:24:10.780 a bureaucracy

00:24:11.280 a highly

00:24:12.260 professional

00:24:12.720 very large

00:24:13.660 and unionized

00:24:14.200 bureaucracy

00:24:14.680 if Nicholas

00:24:16.320 I

00:24:16.700 the emperor

00:24:17.060 of Russia

00:24:17.500 couldn't get

00:24:17.980 stuff done

00:24:18.600 because the

00:24:19.680 bureaucracy

00:24:19.920 was against

00:24:20.380 him

00:24:20.600 I fear

00:24:21.860 that Donald

00:24:22.620 Trump

00:24:22.960 who has

00:24:23.860 less power

00:24:24.260 than he

00:24:24.560 did

00:24:24.820 is going

00:24:25.460 to be

00:24:25.620 in the

00:24:25.820 same boat

00:24:26.240 so it's

00:24:26.480 not even

00:24:26.720 his

00:24:26.900 intentions

00:24:27.380 it's just

00:24:28.140 the nature

00:24:28.440 of the

00:24:28.660 system

00:24:28.980 the American

00:24:29.620 government

00:24:29.940 was designed

00:24:30.700 to be slow

00:24:31.320 and cumbersome

00:24:32.000 and problematic

00:24:32.980 to run

00:24:33.440 so that's

00:24:34.940 my view

00:24:35.200 of it

00:24:35.360 anyway

00:24:35.560 and then

00:24:36.940 in addition

00:24:37.380 to the

00:24:37.940 bureaucracy

00:24:38.600 being uncooperative

00:24:42.260 you have

00:24:42.660 the near

00:24:44.420 certainty

00:24:44.920 of continuous

00:24:46.340 lawfare

00:24:47.180 of legal

00:24:48.880 harassment

00:24:49.660 to the

00:24:50.200 executive branch

00:24:51.440 and it'll be

00:24:55.560 interesting to

00:24:56.020 see how

00:24:56.800 Trump reacts

00:24:58.500 to that

00:24:58.900 yeah

00:24:59.640 I think

00:25:00.200 that's

00:25:00.560 we will

00:25:01.620 see

00:25:01.860 all will

00:25:03.320 be revealed

00:25:03.780 in time

00:25:04.340 now

00:25:05.680 on to

00:25:06.340 more important

00:25:07.800 perennial

00:25:08.280 discussions

00:25:08.840 so as I

00:25:09.680 mentioned

00:25:10.020 in the

00:25:10.440 introduction

00:25:10.880 the topic

00:25:12.900 of our show

00:25:13.240 today is

00:25:13.820 spiritual

00:25:14.580 warfare

00:25:15.380 now

00:25:16.760 this is

00:25:17.380 something

00:25:17.660 that is

00:25:18.000 probably

00:25:18.620 fairly well

00:25:19.280 known

00:25:19.720 around

00:25:20.260 you know

00:25:21.580 Catholic

00:25:21.920 traditional

00:25:22.260 Catholic

00:25:22.680 orthodox

00:25:23.160 circles

00:25:23.580 most people

00:25:24.160 might have

00:25:24.460 heard of

00:25:24.700 this term

00:25:25.000 before

00:25:25.400 or are

00:25:25.920 familiar

00:25:26.240 with what

00:25:26.720 it entails

00:25:27.320 but I think

00:25:28.140 that there

00:25:28.380 are lots

00:25:28.740 of people

00:25:29.020 who really

00:25:29.760 don't

00:25:30.200 understand

00:25:30.580 this

00:25:31.020 and I

00:25:31.820 think

00:25:31.980 that they

00:25:32.220 have a

00:25:32.640 little bit

00:25:33.260 of an

00:25:33.440 idea

00:25:33.800 what we're

00:25:34.120 talking

00:25:34.500 about

00:25:34.840 but don't

00:25:35.820 have any

00:25:36.160 real foundational

00:25:37.060 knowledge

00:25:37.640 so I

00:25:39.880 think

00:25:40.040 perhaps

00:25:40.620 it would

00:25:40.900 be best

00:25:41.200 to start

00:25:41.700 with a

00:25:42.940 definition

00:25:43.300 like what

00:25:43.800 is

00:25:44.020 spiritual

00:25:44.540 warfare

00:25:44.940 so I'm

00:25:45.920 going to

00:25:46.080 withhold

00:25:46.400 my own

00:25:46.700 opinion

00:25:46.960 for the

00:25:47.240 moment

00:25:47.460 and kind

00:25:47.780 of turn

00:25:48.040 it to

00:25:48.480 Dr.

00:25:49.900 Johnson

00:25:50.140 and then

00:25:50.480 Doc Savage

00:25:51.140 to see

00:25:51.740 what your

00:25:52.080 opinions are

00:25:52.660 what is

00:25:53.300 spiritual

00:25:53.740 warfare

00:25:54.140 the way

00:25:56.280 that it's

00:25:56.520 been

00:25:56.760 traditionally

00:25:57.380 defined

00:25:57.860 there's not

00:25:59.500 much of a

00:25:59.800 distinction

00:26:00.140 between the

00:26:00.780 monastic

00:26:01.140 and the

00:26:02.000 soldier

00:26:02.260 spiritual

00:26:04.820 warfare

00:26:05.220 is the

00:26:05.980 constant

00:26:06.420 never

00:26:06.780 ending

00:26:07.040 battle

00:26:07.480 to

00:26:08.840 control

00:26:09.160 your

00:26:09.340 ego

00:26:09.600 and to

00:26:11.120 not

00:26:11.900 begin

00:26:12.700 to

00:26:12.900 imitate

00:26:13.280 how

00:26:14.720 the

00:26:14.880 world

00:26:15.160 how

00:26:15.460 the

00:26:15.780 system

00:26:16.080 how

00:26:16.420 elites

00:26:17.380 view

00:26:19.360 power

00:26:19.700 it's

00:26:21.200 not

00:26:21.380 passive

00:26:21.900 it's

00:26:22.500 not

00:26:22.700 pacifistic

00:26:23.220 by any

00:26:23.560 means

00:26:23.900 but

00:26:25.120 it is

00:26:25.760 it's

00:26:28.020 almost a

00:26:28.460 war against

00:26:29.000 what our

00:26:29.320 instincts

00:26:29.620 are

00:26:29.920 our

00:26:30.120 instincts

00:26:30.420 are

00:26:30.640 to flee

00:26:31.000 danger

00:26:31.400 our

00:26:31.600 instincts

00:26:31.820 are

00:26:32.080 to

00:26:32.340 do

00:26:34.260 as

00:26:34.400 we

00:26:34.520 please

00:26:34.900 but

00:26:36.340 these

00:26:36.520 instincts

00:26:36.760 are

00:26:36.900 usually

00:26:37.120 irrational

00:26:37.600 ultimately

00:26:38.760 the definition

00:26:39.260 that I would

00:26:39.640 give it

00:26:40.000 is

00:26:41.080 attempting

00:26:41.900 to

00:26:42.180 actually

00:26:42.680 live

00:26:43.720 freely

00:26:44.060 be able

00:26:45.260 to live

00:26:45.460 autonomously

00:26:46.040 that our

00:26:47.020 movements

00:26:47.840 our

00:26:48.140 actions

00:26:49.200 are not

00:26:49.980 driven by

00:26:50.680 desires

00:26:51.220 appetites

00:26:51.860 but actually

00:26:52.760 by reason

00:26:53.300 and spirit

00:26:53.720 itself

00:26:54.100 free will

00:26:55.200 is extremely

00:26:55.800 difficult

00:26:56.180 to manifest

00:26:57.200 it's

00:26:57.760 extremely

00:26:58.040 rare

00:26:58.400 and I

00:27:00.000 think

00:27:00.320 trying to

00:27:01.420 become as

00:27:01.900 free as

00:27:02.260 possible

00:27:02.660 is a

00:27:03.360 definition

00:27:03.720 that I

00:27:04.020 would give

00:27:04.260 it just

00:27:04.500 right off

00:27:04.800 the bat

00:27:05.140 probably a

00:27:08.640 pretty good

00:27:09.000 working

00:27:09.560 definition

00:27:10.000 Doc Savage

00:27:10.720 do you have

00:27:10.960 anything to

00:27:11.360 add to

00:27:11.620 that

00:27:11.860 I would

00:27:14.940 say that

00:27:15.640 that

00:27:17.440 that is

00:27:18.920 the highest

00:27:20.080 level of

00:27:20.840 spiritual

00:27:21.160 warfare

00:27:21.500 is the

00:27:21.820 war against

00:27:22.520 the self

00:27:23.960 as it

00:27:24.380 were

00:27:24.640 of course

00:27:27.300 there's also

00:27:28.080 spiritual

00:27:29.280 warfare

00:27:29.660 in the

00:27:30.080 sense

00:27:30.400 of

00:27:31.400 well

00:27:33.500 warfare

00:27:34.500 against

00:27:35.020 spiritual

00:27:35.660 entities

00:27:36.120 right

00:27:37.000 so

00:27:37.340 not only

00:27:38.260 do we

00:27:38.620 have to

00:27:39.100 be on

00:27:39.480 guard

00:27:39.820 against

00:27:40.180 the

00:27:40.380 passions

00:27:40.860 and

00:27:41.760 the

00:27:42.000 instinct

00:27:42.520 the

00:27:43.340 irrational

00:27:43.860 self

00:27:44.280 the animal

00:27:44.840 soul

00:27:45.300 within

00:27:46.760 us

00:27:47.200 we are

00:27:48.500 also

00:27:48.900 thanks

00:27:49.960 thanks to

00:27:50.500 the fall

00:27:50.900 subject to

00:27:52.020 the

00:27:52.220 domination

00:27:53.140 of

00:27:53.820 well

00:27:54.180 not

00:27:54.560 entirely

00:27:54.920 not

00:27:55.620 necessarily

00:27:56.340 domination

00:27:56.920 but

00:27:57.160 influenced

00:27:57.800 at a

00:27:59.300 minimum

00:27:59.580 of

00:28:00.780 other

00:28:01.820 entities

00:28:02.320 that

00:28:02.980 most

00:28:05.040 almost

00:28:06.460 certainly

00:28:06.940 are

00:28:08.920 inimical

00:28:09.580 to

00:28:10.120 us

00:28:11.240 demons

00:28:12.240 and

00:28:12.320 I

00:28:16.940 should

00:28:17.240 have

00:28:17.340 mentioned

00:28:17.620 these

00:28:19.120 personalities

00:28:19.680 demons

00:28:20.220 this is

00:28:22.880 the ultimate

00:28:23.620 warfare

00:28:24.700 now

00:28:25.620 the only

00:28:26.340 problem

00:28:26.620 I have

00:28:27.060 and I think

00:28:28.460 Protestantism

00:28:28.900 has a lot

00:28:29.140 to do

00:28:29.320 with this

00:28:29.720 even the

00:28:30.880 Toll House

00:28:31.220 theory

00:28:31.480 has a lot

00:28:31.780 to do

00:28:31.980 with this

00:28:32.380 when you

00:28:33.360 read

00:28:33.640 Athanasius

00:28:34.300 autobiography

00:28:36.220 of St.

00:28:36.900 Anthony

00:28:37.060 the Great

00:28:37.380 one of the

00:28:38.840 main themes

00:28:39.360 is that

00:28:39.640 Anthony

00:28:39.960 doesn't

00:28:40.320 really

00:28:40.540 believe

00:28:40.900 that

00:28:41.060 demons

00:28:41.260 have

00:28:41.500 a lot

00:28:41.680 of

00:28:41.740 power

00:28:41.980 since

00:28:43.280 Pashka

00:28:43.900 he's

00:28:45.000 making

00:28:45.400 fun

00:28:45.700 of

00:28:45.820 them

00:28:45.980 they're

00:28:47.140 showing

00:28:47.380 up

00:28:47.580 in

00:28:47.980 his

00:28:48.160 cell

00:28:48.760 like

00:28:49.040 big

00:28:49.320 spiders

00:28:49.700 and

00:28:49.940 monsters

00:28:50.240 and

00:28:50.420 everything

00:28:50.600 else

00:28:50.840 and he

00:28:51.320 laughs

00:28:51.540 at

00:28:51.700 them

00:28:51.780 and he

00:28:51.960 says

00:28:52.180 this

00:28:52.340 is

00:28:52.400 what

00:28:52.500 you

00:28:52.600 guys

00:28:52.740 got

00:28:52.880 to

00:28:52.980 do

00:28:53.200 you

00:28:54.080 know

00:28:54.220 I'm

00:28:54.460 not

00:28:54.580 afraid

00:28:55.060 of you

00:28:55.260 you

00:28:55.340 don't

00:28:55.480 have

00:28:55.620 any

00:28:55.780 power

00:28:56.100 as

00:28:56.520 long

00:28:56.660 as

00:28:56.760 I

00:28:56.860 stay

00:28:57.200 close

00:28:58.280 to

00:28:58.400 the

00:28:58.500 church

00:28:58.740 I'm

00:28:59.560 solid

00:29:00.180 all

00:29:00.860 of

00:29:01.300 the

00:29:01.480 hymns

00:29:02.660 of the

00:29:02.840 church

00:29:03.020 say

00:29:03.420 Satan

00:29:04.120 has

00:29:04.220 been

00:29:04.320 defeated

00:29:04.680 the

00:29:05.040 world

00:29:05.200 has

00:29:05.340 been

00:29:05.540 renewed

00:29:05.980 every

00:29:06.720 feast

00:29:07.080 has

00:29:07.340 the

00:29:07.460 same

00:29:07.820 theme

00:29:08.200 over

00:29:08.360 and

00:29:08.440 over

00:29:08.620 again

00:29:08.960 demons

00:29:09.980 rule

00:29:10.400 as

00:29:10.840 the

00:29:12.600 guy

00:29:12.820 whose name

00:29:13.180 I can't

00:29:13.360 remember

00:29:13.540 just said

00:29:14.020 through

00:29:15.280 images

00:29:15.640 they

00:29:15.940 influence

00:29:17.280 us

00:29:17.780 by

00:29:18.400 giving

00:29:18.700 us

00:29:18.840 fantasies

00:29:19.360 these

00:29:19.580 images

00:29:19.880 of

00:29:20.060 what

00:29:20.160 could

00:29:20.280 be

00:29:20.460 if

00:29:20.600 we

00:29:20.700 had

00:29:21.100 more

00:29:21.580 money

00:29:21.840 or

00:29:21.960 whatever

00:29:22.140 it

00:29:22.260 is

00:29:22.480 and

00:29:23.620 the

00:29:23.740 minute

00:29:23.880 we

00:29:24.040 realize

00:29:24.400 this

00:29:24.620 is

00:29:24.720 all

00:29:24.880 fake

00:29:25.180 and

00:29:28.740 over

00:29:28.980 us

00:29:29.180 I 0.98

00:29:29.820 hate 0.95

00:29:30.160 the

00:29:30.300 idea

00:29:30.540 people

00:29:30.820 think

00:29:31.100 that

00:29:31.240 demons

00:29:31.520 are 0.96

00:29:31.860 just

00:29:32.080 overwhelmingly

00:29:32.700 powerful

00:29:33.220 and

00:29:33.960 brilliant

00:29:34.340 and

00:29:34.800 they

00:29:34.880 control

00:29:35.140 everything

00:29:35.460 which

00:29:35.620 choice

00:29:35.800 do we

00:29:35.980 have

00:29:36.200 after

00:29:37.180 Paschka

00:29:37.640 they've

00:29:38.140 been

00:29:38.280 defeated

00:29:38.620 it's

00:29:38.860 just

00:29:39.020 that

00:29:39.280 you know

00:29:40.060 put it

00:29:41.360 this way

00:29:41.660 demons

00:29:42.020 only

00:29:42.380 have

00:29:42.660 the

00:29:42.780 power

00:29:43.000 that

00:29:43.140 we

00:29:43.240 allow

00:29:43.480 them

00:29:43.620 to

00:29:43.740 have

00:29:43.980 so

00:29:45.180 I

00:29:45.380 should

00:29:45.600 have

00:29:45.680 said

00:29:45.860 that

00:29:46.060 and

00:29:46.280 the

00:29:47.240 guy

00:29:47.400 whose

00:29:47.540 name

00:29:47.680 I

00:29:47.760 can't

00:29:47.820 remember

00:29:48.060 reminded

00:29:48.920 me

00:29:49.060 of

00:29:49.160 it

00:29:49.220 was

00:29:49.340 actually

00:29:49.580 an

00:29:49.700 excellent

00:29:49.900 point

00:29:50.200 yeah

00:29:51.860 I

00:29:58.740 we

00:29:58.900 go

00:29:59.040 to

00:29:59.220 the

00:29:59.380 definition

00:30:00.820 that

00:30:01.120 you

00:30:01.240 gave

00:30:01.520 because

00:30:02.180 when

00:30:03.380 you

00:30:03.500 look

00:30:03.700 at

00:30:03.880 the

00:30:04.060 left

00:30:04.640 and

00:30:05.960 just

00:30:07.680 hold

00:30:07.900 on

00:30:08.080 my

00:30:08.260 mic

00:30:08.800 is

00:30:09.000 like

00:30:09.280 slipping

00:30:09.820 away

00:30:10.100 here

00:30:10.480 no one's

00:30:12.560 going to

00:30:12.680 tell me

00:30:12.880 the guy

00:30:13.180 whose

00:30:13.540 name

00:30:13.700 I

00:30:13.780 can't

00:30:13.900 remember

00:30:14.140 Doc

00:30:14.780 Savage

00:30:15.140 Doc

00:30:15.640 Savage

00:30:15.980 oh

00:30:16.340 sorry

00:30:16.700 about

00:30:16.860 that

00:30:16.960 okay

00:30:17.120 that's

00:30:17.340 right

00:30:17.480 okay

00:30:17.800 got a

00:30:19.920 little

00:30:20.080 issue

00:30:20.480 here

00:30:21.220 we're

00:30:22.260 too

00:30:22.460 meek

00:30:22.740 on

00:30:22.860 this

00:30:22.980 podcast

00:30:23.300 we

00:30:23.620 should

00:30:23.760 assert

00:30:24.040 ourselves

00:30:24.420 perhaps

00:30:24.700 more

00:30:25.000 but

00:30:26.880 no

00:30:27.840 I

00:30:29.040 think

00:30:29.200 we're

00:30:29.960 going

00:30:30.160 to

00:30:30.200 get

00:30:30.340 into

00:30:30.520 the

00:30:31.140 third

00:30:32.460 type

00:30:32.640 of

00:30:32.740 spiritual

00:30:33.040 warfare

00:30:33.360 is

00:30:33.820 the

00:30:34.120 highest

00:30:34.440 is

00:30:34.620 against

00:30:34.820 the

00:30:35.020 self

00:30:35.280 the

00:30:35.560 second

00:30:35.800 is

00:30:35.960 against

00:30:36.300 spirits

00:30:36.940 or

00:30:37.140 demons

00:30:37.400 and

00:30:38.040 the

00:30:38.160 third

00:30:38.300 is

00:30:38.460 against

00:30:38.680 men

00:30:39.040 because

00:30:39.600 men

00:30:39.840 are

00:30:40.140 composite

00:30:40.860 animal

00:30:41.820 and

00:30:42.200 spiritual

00:30:42.520 beings

00:30:43.040 we're

00:30:45.080 going to

00:30:45.240 get into

00:30:45.500 the

00:30:45.640 anatomy

00:30:45.960 of the

00:30:46.280 soul

00:30:46.460 a little

00:30:46.740 bit

00:30:46.920 later

00:30:47.240 but

00:30:48.420 this

00:30:48.680 is

00:30:48.780 the

00:30:48.940 subject

00:30:49.180 I

00:30:49.340 want

00:30:49.440 to

00:30:49.520 discuss

00:30:49.800 first

00:30:50.120 because

00:30:50.400 it's

00:30:50.580 the

00:30:50.740 lowest

00:30:51.100 tier

00:30:51.620 and

00:30:51.840 then

00:30:51.960 we'll

00:30:52.120 work

00:30:52.340 up

00:30:52.520 to

00:30:52.820 the

00:30:53.960 highest

00:30:54.280 tier

00:30:54.600 it's

00:30:55.360 a

00:30:55.460 spiritual

00:30:55.720 warfare

00:30:56.020 against

00:30:56.340 men

00:30:56.680 and

00:30:57.180 the

00:30:57.420 I

00:30:58.160 think

00:30:58.320 that

00:30:58.420 the

00:30:58.560 best

00:30:58.840 discussion

00:30:59.660 on

00:30:59.960 this

00:31:00.180 topic

00:31:00.800 that

00:31:01.020 I've

00:31:01.240 seen

00:31:01.420 comes

00:31:01.720 from

00:31:02.080 Julius

00:31:02.720 Evola

00:31:03.120 wrote

00:31:05.760 a book

00:31:06.100 called

00:31:06.500 The

00:31:06.680 Metaphysics

00:31:07.200 of War

00:31:07.700 which I

00:31:08.280 highly

00:31:09.200 suggest

00:31:09.620 everybody

00:31:09.900 read

00:31:10.320 I mean

00:31:11.140 it's

00:31:11.280 not

00:31:11.400 exactly

00:31:11.760 obviously

00:31:12.540 we're

00:31:12.740 coming

00:31:12.940 at

00:31:13.120 this

00:31:13.260 from

00:31:13.420 a

00:31:14.900 Christian

00:31:15.220 metaphysm

00:31:15.640 standpoint

00:31:16.080 Zeiger's

00:31:16.500 got a

00:31:16.680 little

00:31:16.800 bit

00:31:16.920 of a

00:31:17.080 different

00:31:17.260 metaphysic

00:31:17.760 than

00:31:17.900 we do

00:31:18.220 but

00:31:18.920 that's

00:31:19.720 where

00:31:20.060 Savage

00:31:21.560 Johnson

00:31:22.040 and I

00:31:22.340 are

00:31:22.440 coming

00:31:22.620 from

00:31:22.900 but

00:31:23.340 back

00:31:23.480 to

00:31:23.600 the

00:31:23.680 point

00:31:23.900 so

00:31:24.180 Evola

00:31:24.660 essentially

00:31:26.640 Evola's

00:31:27.160 thesis

00:31:27.380 in that

00:31:27.740 book

00:31:28.040 and he

00:31:28.900 draws

00:31:29.200 this

00:31:29.380 thesis

00:31:29.660 from

00:31:30.040 Islam

00:31:30.860 of

00:31:31.040 all

00:31:31.180 places

00:31:31.560 is

00:31:32.000 that

00:31:32.160 fundamentally

00:31:32.920 conquest

00:31:34.340 in the

00:31:34.880 material

00:31:35.280 realm

00:31:35.680 the

00:31:36.500 defeat

00:31:36.780 of

00:31:36.900 an

00:31:36.980 enemy

00:31:37.180 is

00:31:37.640 the

00:31:37.800 manifestation

00:31:38.300 of

00:31:38.740 spiritual

00:31:39.160 victory

00:31:39.580 that

00:31:41.260 when

00:31:41.560 you

00:31:42.000 are

00:31:43.260 able

00:31:43.620 to

00:31:44.040 subvert

00:31:45.420 you're

00:31:45.720 able

00:31:45.940 to

00:31:46.120 rout 0.75

00:31:46.360 you're

00:31:46.700 able

00:31:46.880 to

00:31:47.080 overcome

00:31:47.460 with

00:31:47.800 the

00:31:47.920 might

00:31:48.060 of

00:31:48.180 your

00:31:48.340 arm

00:31:48.780 your

00:31:49.540 enemy

00:31:49.820 before

00:31:50.240 you

00:31:50.460 this

00:31:51.140 is

00:31:51.740 rooted

00:31:52.600 in

00:31:53.000 the

00:31:53.220 spiritual

00:31:53.560 plane

00:31:54.120 so

00:31:55.300 goes

00:31:55.480 the

00:31:55.620 maxim

00:31:55.940 as

00:31:56.720 above

00:31:57.000 so

00:31:57.260 below

00:31:57.580 and

00:31:58.480 so

00:31:58.640 he

00:31:58.820 talks

00:31:59.120 about

00:31:59.460 you know

00:31:59.880 he uses

00:32:00.220 the

00:32:00.380 Islamic

00:32:00.740 motifs

00:32:01.200 of

00:32:01.380 the

00:32:01.520 greater

00:32:01.840 and

00:32:02.020 the

00:32:02.120 lesser

00:32:02.300 jihad

00:32:02.800 so

00:32:03.680 the

00:32:04.060 you know

00:32:04.420 Islam

00:32:04.900 defines

00:32:05.480 spiritual

00:32:05.840 warfare

00:32:06.820 in the

00:32:07.180 sense

00:32:07.300 of

00:32:07.420 jihad

00:32:07.800 struggle

00:32:08.300 and

00:32:09.620 so

00:32:09.680 they

00:32:09.840 would

00:32:09.980 talk

00:32:10.260 about

00:32:10.500 it

00:32:10.640 from

00:32:10.820 the

00:32:10.980 standpoint

00:32:11.300 that

00:32:11.700 first

00:32:12.160 you

00:32:12.360 have

00:32:12.560 to

00:32:12.680 war

00:32:12.900 against

00:32:13.140 yourself

00:32:13.560 and

00:32:13.720 your

00:32:13.840 passions

00:32:14.240 as

00:32:14.440 we've

00:32:14.620 been

00:32:14.700 describing

00:32:15.160 you have

00:32:16.060 to

00:32:16.260 acquire

00:32:17.020 the

00:32:17.460 spiritual

00:32:18.020 capital

00:32:18.740 and acumen

00:32:19.460 greater

00:32:20.880 than your

00:32:21.200 enemy

00:32:21.420 and then

00:32:22.400 you

00:32:22.740 bring it

00:32:23.960 down to

00:32:24.300 the

00:32:24.400 material

00:32:24.700 plane

00:32:25.040 and

00:32:25.200 manifest

00:32:25.680 it

00:32:25.880 through

00:32:26.000 your

00:32:26.180 actions

00:32:26.640 so

00:32:29.940 that's

00:32:30.620 kind

00:32:30.760 of

00:32:30.820 the

00:32:30.960 basics

00:32:31.380 of

00:32:31.760 when

00:32:33.140 you're

00:32:33.340 actually

00:32:33.660 engaging

00:32:34.080 in

00:32:34.760 spiritual

00:32:35.080 warfare

00:32:35.440 with

00:32:35.740 another

00:32:36.120 human

00:32:36.400 being

00:32:36.840 when

00:32:37.300 you

00:32:37.720 actually

00:32:38.220 are

00:32:38.480 fighting

00:32:38.900 somebody

00:32:39.400 there

00:32:40.500 are

00:32:41.040 really

00:32:43.560 three

00:32:43.880 things

00:32:44.240 going

00:32:44.460 on

00:32:44.760 that

00:32:44.980 contribute

00:32:45.660 to

00:32:45.960 the

00:32:46.240 outcome

00:32:47.520 one

00:32:48.360 is

00:32:48.700 your

00:32:49.040 disposition

00:32:49.700 this is

00:32:50.160 your

00:32:50.300 spirit

00:32:50.680 if

00:32:51.720 you

00:32:51.900 have

00:32:52.560 more

00:32:52.940 will

00:32:53.140 to

00:32:53.300 fight

00:32:53.560 you

00:32:54.020 have

00:32:54.380 more

00:32:55.300 courage

00:32:55.760 you

00:32:56.400 have

00:32:56.500 more

00:32:56.660 virtue

00:32:57.100 than

00:32:58.320 him

00:32:58.520 likely

00:32:58.960 you

00:32:59.700 will

00:33:00.120 triumph

00:33:00.480 at

00:33:00.700 the

00:33:00.840 very

00:33:01.020 minimum

00:33:01.340 you're

00:33:01.680 willing

00:33:01.940 to

00:33:02.140 lose

00:33:02.740 and

00:33:02.980 suffer

00:33:03.180 more

00:33:03.440 than

00:33:03.600 he

00:33:03.780 is

00:33:03.940 just

00:33:04.080 on

00:33:04.220 a

00:33:04.320 practical

00:33:04.760 level

00:33:05.160 the

00:33:06.320 second

00:33:06.660 would

00:33:06.880 be

00:33:07.100 your

00:33:07.460 physical

00:33:07.760 skills

00:33:08.300 unless

00:33:10.500 God

00:33:14.920 directly

00:33:15.320 intercedes

00:33:15.920 to give

00:33:16.300 you

00:33:16.400 the

00:33:16.540 ability

00:33:16.880 to

00:33:17.100 actually

00:33:17.500 wield

00:33:18.720 arms

00:33:19.160 properly

00:33:19.700 you

00:33:20.220 have to

00:33:20.840 know

00:33:20.980 how

00:33:21.100 to

00:33:21.220 fight

00:33:21.400 people

00:33:21.680 physically

00:33:22.120 for

00:33:22.820 your

00:33:23.100 spiritual

00:33:23.780 readiness

00:33:24.160 to

00:33:24.460 be

00:33:24.820 manifested

00:33:26.420 and

00:33:28.220 the

00:33:28.400 third

00:33:28.540 is

00:33:28.680 circumstance

00:33:29.260 right

00:33:29.980 so

00:33:30.500 I mean

00:33:30.820 the

00:33:31.140 circumstance

00:33:31.780 of the

00:33:32.140 battle

00:33:32.480 you know

00:33:34.500 I mean

00:33:34.680 this

00:33:34.820 goes back

00:33:35.420 to the

00:33:35.860 art

00:33:35.980 war

00:33:36.140 by

00:33:36.280 Sanzu

00:33:36.720 right

00:33:37.020 that

00:33:37.140 the

00:33:37.300 first

00:33:37.600 step

00:33:37.900 to

00:33:38.080 victory

00:33:38.400 is

00:33:38.820 to

00:33:38.960 actually

00:33:39.380 win

00:33:39.760 first

00:33:40.100 and

00:33:40.280 then

00:33:40.400 go

00:33:40.540 to

00:33:40.640 battle

00:33:40.900 so

00:33:41.160 you

00:33:41.340 pick

00:33:41.640 the

00:33:42.040 battlefield

00:33:42.820 of

00:33:43.060 your

00:33:43.160 choosing

00:33:43.520 you

00:33:44.120 get

00:33:44.320 yourself

00:33:44.660 into

00:33:44.880 a

00:33:45.040 disposition

00:33:45.580 that

00:33:46.300 is

00:33:46.420 correct

00:33:46.760 for

00:33:46.920 victory

00:33:47.280 you

00:33:47.760 arm

00:33:48.260 yourself

00:33:48.700 with

00:33:49.040 the

00:33:49.240 skills

00:33:49.540 necessary

00:33:50.040 to

00:33:50.240 subdue

00:33:50.480 your

00:33:50.660 opponent

00:33:51.040 so

00:33:51.920 you

00:33:52.120 spiritually

00:33:53.140 build

00:33:54.880 up

00:33:55.040 the

00:33:55.180 capital

00:33:55.520 the

00:33:55.760 win

00:33:56.020 and

00:33:56.260 then

00:33:56.540 you

00:33:56.720 manifested

00:33:57.280 post

00:33:57.720 facto

00:33:58.120 so

00:34:00.600 Napoleon

00:34:01.220 says

00:34:02.060 I believe

00:34:02.860 that

00:34:03.760 in war

00:34:04.900 that the

00:34:05.500 moral

00:34:06.160 is to

00:34:06.800 the

00:34:06.940 physical

00:34:07.300 as

00:34:07.780 three

00:34:08.020 is to

00:34:08.300 one

00:34:08.560 and

00:34:10.200 the

00:34:10.480 way

00:34:10.660 he's

00:34:10.920 using

00:34:11.160 moral

00:34:11.560 there

00:34:11.940 is

00:34:12.940 as

00:34:13.300 a

00:34:14.620 cognate

00:34:15.080 for

00:34:15.280 morale

00:34:15.840 right

00:34:16.300 so

00:34:16.640 the

00:34:17.080 army

00:34:17.960 that

00:34:18.700 has

00:34:19.000 the

00:34:19.160 most

00:34:19.280 willingness

00:34:19.700 to

00:34:20.020 stay

00:34:20.340 and

00:34:20.980 endure

00:34:21.780 suffering

00:34:22.340 on the

00:34:22.800 battlefield

00:34:23.160 is

00:34:23.680 more

00:34:24.440 likely

00:34:24.820 to

00:34:25.120 carry

00:34:25.340 the

00:34:25.480 day

00:34:25.700 and

00:34:27.280 then

00:34:27.480 I

00:34:28.060 would

00:34:28.200 add

00:34:28.460 to

00:34:28.580 that

00:34:28.860 personally

00:34:29.400 that

00:34:29.800 the

00:34:31.260 spiritual

00:34:32.480 is

00:34:33.000 to

00:34:33.240 the

00:34:33.400 morale

00:34:33.860 as

00:34:34.700 three

00:34:35.040 is

00:34:35.300 to

00:34:35.420 one

00:34:35.660 you

00:34:35.820 don't

00:34:36.220 have

00:34:36.800 a

00:34:36.980 willingness

00:34:37.220 to

00:34:37.500 stay

00:34:37.720 on the

00:34:37.960 battlefield

00:34:38.280 suffering

00:34:38.900 unless

00:34:39.560 you

00:34:39.920 are

00:34:40.820 already

00:34:41.460 spiritually

00:34:43.140 victorious

00:34:45.300 in some

00:34:46.100 sense

00:34:46.480 that

00:34:46.700 you

00:34:47.040 have

00:34:47.680 attained

00:34:49.140 as you

00:34:49.580 say

00:34:49.820 Florian

00:34:50.200 this

00:34:50.780 spiritual

00:34:51.180 capital

00:34:51.700 this

00:34:52.500 willingness

00:34:52.960 this

00:34:53.500 sense

00:34:56.320 of

00:34:56.500 purpose

00:34:56.980 grace

00:34:57.860 even

00:34:59.300 in the

00:35:00.220 spiritual

00:35:00.560 realm

00:35:00.900 that you

00:35:01.120 can

00:35:01.240 manifest

00:35:01.780 as

00:35:04.240 morale

00:35:05.220 or

00:35:05.580 psychology

00:35:06.180 and then

00:35:06.760 that can

00:35:07.980 assist you

00:35:08.860 in the

00:35:09.540 actual

00:35:09.840 physical

00:35:10.160 world

00:35:10.500 and then

00:35:11.200 the other

00:35:11.800 point

00:35:12.220 I would

00:35:12.720 add

00:35:13.200 is that

00:35:13.520 these

00:35:13.680 things

00:35:13.880 are all

00:35:14.160 linked

00:35:14.540 these

00:35:15.120 aren't

00:35:15.640 isolated

00:35:16.380 areas

00:35:17.580 right

00:35:17.920 being

00:35:19.300 physically

00:35:19.820 ready

00:35:20.100 for

00:35:20.300 battle

00:35:20.600 has

00:35:20.820 a

00:35:20.960 direct

00:35:21.380 mental

00:35:22.440 impact

00:35:23.020 and I

00:35:23.400 would

00:35:23.620 necessarily

00:35:24.720 a direct

00:35:25.480 spiritual

00:35:26.020 impact

00:35:26.460 and all

00:35:26.980 of these

00:35:27.760 realms

00:35:29.420 feed back

00:35:30.420 into each

00:35:30.740 other

00:35:31.020 so

00:35:32.300 like

00:35:32.680 you

00:35:34.060 know

00:35:35.440 this idea

00:35:36.120 that you're

00:35:36.560 going to

00:35:36.720 have someone

00:35:37.240 who is

00:35:38.160 extraordinarily

00:35:38.700 physically

00:35:39.240 powerful

00:35:39.740 but

00:35:40.280 with no

00:35:41.340 mental

00:35:41.680 or spiritual

00:35:42.320 abilities

00:35:43.640 I think

00:35:44.260 is

00:35:44.580 not very

00:35:46.620 likely at

00:35:47.080 all

00:35:47.260 it's

00:35:47.680 very much

00:35:48.940 an edge

00:35:49.260 case

00:35:49.640 you know

00:35:51.040 when you

00:35:51.260 mentioned

00:35:51.520 that

00:35:51.800 we're going

00:35:52.520 to talk

00:35:52.760 about

00:35:53.340 Evola

00:35:53.820 on the

00:35:54.460 show

00:35:54.680 I went

00:35:55.240 back

00:35:55.480 and I

00:35:55.660 read those

00:35:56.000 essays

00:35:56.320 again

00:35:56.720 and it

00:35:57.780 reminded me

00:35:58.340 you know

00:35:58.900 how much

00:35:59.360 I hate

00:35:59.900 hate 1.00

00:36:00.300 the American

00:36:00.740 military

00:36:01.080 and I

00:36:02.360 had forgotten

00:36:02.860 that Evola

00:36:03.740 would hate

00:36:04.380 them for the

00:36:04.740 same reasons

00:36:05.180 I do

00:36:05.500 you know

00:36:07.360 when you

00:36:07.880 compare the

00:36:08.480 American

00:36:08.880 soldier to

00:36:09.640 Roman

00:36:10.120 for example

00:36:10.980 it's apples

00:36:11.720 and oranges

00:36:12.140 they're barely

00:36:13.600 you know

00:36:14.100 comfortable

00:36:14.380 on any level

00:36:14.940 whatsoever

00:36:15.300 and my

00:36:16.780 personal

00:36:17.160 hatred

00:36:17.420 for them

00:36:17.800 started in

00:36:18.600 the Serbian

00:36:18.960 war

00:36:19.280 in the

00:36:19.620 90s

00:36:20.060 where these

00:36:21.260 guys were

00:36:21.720 being worshipped

00:36:22.300 in public

00:36:22.700 practically

00:36:23.200 they had

00:36:24.200 everything paid

00:36:24.660 for

00:36:24.900 you know

00:36:25.780 they're seen

00:36:26.680 as these

00:36:26.960 heroes

00:36:27.280 even though

00:36:28.120 everyone knows

00:36:28.760 they have

00:36:28.960 nothing to

00:36:29.260 fight for

00:36:29.680 what are the

00:36:30.340 people dying

00:36:30.800 for

00:36:31.080 but it

00:36:32.240 began to

00:36:32.620 occur to me

00:36:33.020 that these

00:36:33.360 guys

00:36:33.700 their

00:36:34.000 swaggering 0.60

00:36:34.780 arrogance

00:36:35.240 is really

00:36:36.180 based on

00:36:36.620 cowardice

00:36:37.080 these people 0.67

00:36:39.260 most of these

00:36:39.820 guys are not

00:36:40.540 in any danger

00:36:41.020 of dying

00:36:41.420 anytime soon

00:36:42.060 pretty much

00:36:43.380 not fighting

00:36:43.780 enemies

00:36:44.120 who get

00:36:44.340 shoot back

00:36:44.700 very well

00:36:45.160 so much

00:36:46.760 is done

00:36:46.980 from the

00:36:47.300 air

00:36:47.560 and a lot

00:36:48.060 of their

00:36:48.240 work and

00:36:48.680 training

00:36:49.000 is manipulating

00:36:49.660 technology

00:36:50.320 attacking enemies

00:36:52.440 that don't know

00:36:53.020 they're being

00:36:53.300 attacked

00:36:53.680 without any

00:36:55.180 danger to

00:36:55.940 the American

00:36:57.840 in general

00:36:58.240 not to mention

00:36:59.480 the overarching

00:37:00.920 corruption

00:37:01.500 and the

00:37:02.480 appetite

00:37:02.780 of the

00:37:03.000 American

00:37:03.220 military

00:37:03.580 their atrocities

00:37:04.480 abroad

00:37:04.840 and this

00:37:06.060 belief

00:37:06.600 which

00:37:07.180 I still

00:37:08.780 can't

00:37:09.060 comprehend

00:37:09.380 that this

00:37:10.180 is the

00:37:10.360 most powerful

00:37:10.940 overwhelmingly

00:37:11.480 powerful

00:37:11.900 military force

00:37:12.620 in the world

00:37:13.080 they're a

00:37:15.200 paper tiger

00:37:15.720 when you have

00:37:17.080 no esprit de corps

00:37:17.800 no morale

00:37:18.340 when you have

00:37:19.480 no reason

00:37:19.980 to fight

00:37:20.420 when you

00:37:20.840 pretty much

00:37:21.240 know that

00:37:21.660 you're

00:37:21.920 the bad

00:37:23.100 guy

00:37:23.400 in this

00:37:23.960 you go up

00:37:24.840 against a

00:37:25.140 country like

00:37:25.560 Russia or 0.72

00:37:26.000 China

00:37:26.280 they're not

00:37:27.640 going to have

00:37:27.880 enough body

00:37:28.300 bags to

00:37:28.860 bring the

00:37:29.620 men home

00:37:30.280 and there's

00:37:30.640 going to be

00:37:31.520 a scream 0.72

00:37:32.420 to get out

00:37:32.740 of any kind

00:37:33.140 of war

00:37:33.420 with them

00:37:33.760 these wars

00:37:35.980 since Vietnam

00:37:36.820 have been

00:37:37.300 very small

00:37:37.900 against enemies

00:37:38.520 that barely

00:37:39.540 could function

00:37:40.080 and this

00:37:41.280 is the

00:37:42.040 battles on

00:37:42.800 which they

00:37:43.200 base their

00:37:43.860 swaggering

00:37:44.380 arrogance on

00:37:44.980 and it's

00:37:45.900 going to

00:37:46.080 change if

00:37:46.440 they keep

00:37:46.740 pushing

00:37:47.040 in Russia

00:37:48.520 but the

00:37:49.020 point I'm

00:37:49.260 trying to

00:37:49.440 make here

00:37:49.860 is

00:37:50.140 of all

00:37:50.940 his work

00:37:51.320 that's the

00:37:52.060 difference

00:37:52.260 between the

00:37:52.920 mass

00:37:53.440 you know

00:37:54.080 in this

00:37:54.340 case

00:37:54.560 post-modern

00:37:55.460 army

00:37:55.760 on the one

00:37:56.100 hand

00:37:56.380 and the

00:37:57.320 Roman or 0.81

00:37:58.300 medieval

00:37:58.540 soldier

00:37:59.060 on the

00:37:59.320 other

00:37:59.460 there's

00:37:59.980 almost no

00:38:00.540 way to

00:38:00.760 compare

00:38:01.080 Zager

00:38:05.940 would you

00:38:06.220 like to

00:38:06.500 weigh in

00:38:06.880 yeah

00:38:07.540 I mean

00:38:08.160 the point

00:38:09.540 that I was

00:38:09.900 trying to

00:38:10.220 make when

00:38:10.620 my microphone

00:38:11.980 suddenly became

00:38:12.700 possessed by

00:38:13.500 some demon

00:38:14.100 is when

00:38:17.120 you define

00:38:18.200 the spiritual

00:38:18.820 warfare as

00:38:20.020 being a

00:38:21.140 struggle of

00:38:23.080 you could say

00:38:23.820 the spirit

00:38:24.360 against you

00:38:25.280 know the

00:38:25.480 lower urges

00:38:26.240 or the

00:38:26.620 self it

00:38:28.080 becomes very

00:38:28.600 obvious that

00:38:29.320 from a

00:38:29.660 political

00:38:30.000 perspective

00:38:30.580 what we're

00:38:32.620 struggling

00:38:33.020 against like

00:38:33.980 even their

00:38:34.540 explicit

00:38:35.120 political and

00:38:36.520 social ideology

00:38:37.440 is the exact

00:38:38.540 reverse of that

00:38:39.380 like the

00:38:40.320 the left

00:38:40.980 or the

00:38:41.620 communists

00:38:42.580 the Jews

00:38:44.180 like all

00:38:44.960 of the people

00:38:45.520 we struggle

00:38:46.040 against

00:38:46.460 they are

00:38:48.420 pushing for

00:38:49.700 a victory

00:38:50.660 of the

00:38:51.260 vices

00:38:51.700 and the

00:38:52.840 you know

00:38:53.620 the lower

00:38:54.480 passions

00:38:55.060 over

00:38:55.740 rationality

00:38:56.800 and over

00:38:57.520 discipline

00:38:59.000 self-control

00:38:59.820 and a higher

00:39:00.680 spiritual

00:39:02.160 you know

00:39:03.340 reason

00:39:03.920 to live

00:39:05.120 so they

00:39:07.180 have set

00:39:07.720 themselves

00:39:08.080 up as

00:39:09.420 essentially

00:39:10.300 demons

00:39:11.340 because 0.85

00:39:12.580 their

00:39:13.340 entire

00:39:14.060 struggle

00:39:16.960 is the

00:39:18.160 same as

00:39:18.620 you know

00:39:19.140 a demon

00:39:19.980 was trying

00:39:20.540 to

00:39:21.000 make

00:39:22.580 someone

00:39:22.860 go

00:39:23.300 you know

00:39:24.380 bad

00:39:24.740 basically

00:39:26.320 to

00:39:26.860 allure

00:39:27.440 people

00:39:27.820 to

00:39:28.320 concede

00:39:31.000 to their

00:39:31.440 concupiscence

00:39:32.280 if you'd

00:39:32.920 like

00:39:33.140 so they

00:39:33.940 are

00:39:34.180 all about

00:39:35.160 temptation

00:39:35.780 so I think

00:39:36.980 that's

00:39:37.220 very interesting

00:39:38.180 and this is

00:39:39.560 probably the

00:39:40.000 reason why

00:39:40.660 we're saying

00:39:41.220 that we're

00:39:42.340 fighting against

00:39:43.220 a demonic

00:39:43.840 enemy

00:39:44.300 because in

00:39:45.400 all their

00:39:46.700 behavior

00:39:47.160 and all

00:39:47.720 their attitude

00:39:48.220 and in all

00:39:48.960 their stated

00:39:49.500 ideology

00:39:50.080 they're

00:39:50.900 exactly

00:39:51.500 like a

00:39:52.600 demon

00:39:52.780 would be

00:39:53.220 that's

00:39:56.620 precise

00:39:57.020 precisely

00:39:57.600 and this

00:39:58.720 is

00:39:58.840 something

00:39:59.360 that I

00:39:59.840 think

00:40:00.240 is

00:40:00.380 critical

00:40:00.820 that we've

00:40:01.900 talked about

00:40:02.320 on the

00:40:02.520 show before

00:40:03.480 and I've

00:40:04.100 said many

00:40:04.460 times

00:40:04.900 is that

00:40:05.900 when we

00:40:06.320 use the

00:40:06.640 word

00:40:06.960 satanic

00:40:07.800 or demonic

00:40:09.120 we're not

00:40:10.260 being hyperbolic

00:40:11.100 we're being

00:40:11.640 very precise

00:40:12.580 very technical

00:40:13.800 okay

00:40:14.600 the

00:40:15.340 satanic

00:40:16.960 or the

00:40:17.360 demonic

00:40:17.780 is an

00:40:19.040 inversion

00:40:19.600 of

00:40:20.480 reason

00:40:21.000 of order

00:40:21.840 of

00:40:22.240 logos

00:40:22.860 that's

00:40:24.260 who these

00:40:24.760 people are

00:40:25.440 okay

00:40:26.100 they desire

00:40:26.860 a

00:40:27.340 destruction

00:40:28.240 of

00:40:28.560 everything

00:40:29.060 that is

00:40:29.960 natural

00:40:30.560 that is

00:40:31.620 good

00:40:31.920 that is

00:40:32.260 true

00:40:32.460 that is

00:40:32.740 beautiful

00:40:33.180 and so

00:40:34.840 what

00:40:36.340 Jesus Christ

00:40:37.300 said of

00:40:37.960 the Pharisees 0.94

00:40:38.720 is that

00:40:39.140 you are

00:40:39.680 the sons 1.00

00:40:40.140 of Satan 0.99

00:40:40.640 because you

00:40:41.780 do his

00:40:42.200 work

00:40:42.600 and indeed

00:40:44.700 could you

00:40:45.300 point to

00:40:45.940 any

00:40:46.360 more prescient

00:40:47.940 example

00:40:49.120 more gestalt

00:40:50.140 example of

00:40:50.780 this

00:40:51.020 than our

00:40:51.640 enemies on

00:40:52.040 the left

00:40:52.380 they are

00:40:53.700 satanic

00:40:54.320 because they

00:40:55.560 do his

00:40:55.960 work

00:40:56.360 and that's

00:40:58.400 why

00:40:59.040 I've

00:40:59.920 maintained

00:41:00.480 and I've

00:41:00.920 said before

00:41:01.500 that this

00:41:02.860 struggle is

00:41:03.780 not against

00:41:04.560 flesh and

00:41:05.140 blood

00:41:05.440 but against

00:41:06.300 principalities

00:41:07.100 and powers

00:41:07.720 against evil

00:41:08.440 and high

00:41:08.840 places

00:41:09.320 that the

00:41:10.560 the

00:41:11.200 the reason

00:41:12.280 why we've

00:41:12.720 been successful

00:41:13.260 so far

00:41:14.040 especially

00:41:14.480 you can see

00:41:15.080 this in

00:41:15.340 phenomenon

00:41:15.680 like me

00:41:16.280 magic or

00:41:16.880 whatever

00:41:17.140 that they

00:41:17.560 like to

00:41:17.840 talk about

00:41:18.180 well this is

00:41:18.600 spiritual warfare

00:41:19.280 right

00:41:20.460 this is

00:41:22.720 because

00:41:23.140 they're

00:41:23.560 they're

00:41:23.880 weak and 1.00

00:41:24.240 decrepit 1.00

00:41:24.740 and you

00:41:25.480 know

00:41:25.560 on the

00:41:26.560 far right

00:41:27.040 you know

00:41:27.280 we at least

00:41:27.720 have a core

00:41:28.320 a nucleus

00:41:29.000 of goodness

00:41:29.860 of morality

00:41:31.420 of strength

00:41:32.540 of will

00:41:33.140 and so

00:41:35.540 it's easy

00:41:36.080 it's easy

00:41:37.200 to get

00:41:37.660 results

00:41:38.140 far beyond

00:41:38.940 the effort

00:41:39.400 that we

00:41:39.680 expend

00:41:40.080 yes

00:41:44.440 I agree

00:41:45.180 and

00:41:46.680 and that's

00:41:47.340 why

00:41:47.700 I don't

00:41:48.260 think any

00:41:48.600 of us

00:41:48.880 are ever

00:41:49.300 surprised

00:41:49.980 when you

00:41:50.500 see something

00:41:51.020 like

00:41:51.480 public

00:41:53.260 like actual

00:41:54.900 satanic

00:41:55.840 rituals

00:41:56.360 begin to

00:41:58.180 take place

00:41:58.840 as has

00:42:00.140 happened here

00:42:00.620 in the past

00:42:00.960 couple of

00:42:01.300 years

00:42:01.560 it's just

00:42:02.380 like oh

00:42:02.840 well they're

00:42:03.460 finally taking

00:42:03.940 the mask

00:42:04.300 off

00:42:04.600 that's

00:42:05.280 of course

00:42:07.080 well they have

00:42:09.340 no reason

00:42:09.920 to view it

00:42:10.940 as something

00:42:11.500 negative

00:42:11.920 from their

00:42:12.340 perspective

00:42:12.820 so it's

00:42:14.220 not even

00:42:14.640 that they

00:42:15.040 would even

00:42:15.540 believe

00:42:16.120 in these

00:42:16.960 things

00:42:17.420 necessarily

00:42:18.160 but that

00:42:18.760 they see

00:42:19.200 it as

00:42:19.520 so innocuous

00:42:20.360 because they

00:42:20.960 can't

00:42:21.220 understand

00:42:21.640 why

00:42:21.940 you know

00:42:23.080 there would

00:42:24.000 be something

00:42:24.300 wrong with

00:42:24.680 that

00:42:24.860 like

00:42:25.220 you don't

00:42:26.140 like demons

00:42:26.700 what are

00:42:27.380 you

00:42:27.640 a Nazi 0.98

00:42:29.140 are you 0.99

00:42:29.500 still living

00:42:29.880 in the

00:42:30.140 50s

00:42:30.520 or something

00:42:30.920 that's

00:42:31.880 basically

00:42:32.200 their

00:42:32.420 attitude

00:42:32.820 one of

00:42:38.620 the

00:42:38.720 propositions

00:42:39.180 I based

00:42:39.540 my entire

00:42:39.960 career on

00:42:40.500 is the

00:42:40.740 idea that

00:42:41.200 new world

00:42:41.640 order

00:42:41.920 or globalization

00:42:42.640 is a

00:42:43.940 political

00:42:44.180 and economic

00:42:44.800 manifestation

00:42:45.500 of antichrist

00:42:46.060 it's really

00:42:48.240 how that

00:42:49.220 force has

00:42:49.660 shown itself

00:42:50.040 in the

00:42:50.260 world

00:42:50.520 the US

00:42:51.720 is right

00:42:52.120 now the

00:42:52.400 head of

00:42:52.560 the snake

00:42:52.940 and its

00:42:55.180 primary target

00:42:55.780 is Russia

00:42:56.440 and the

00:42:57.680 battle lines

00:42:58.220 couldn't be

00:42:58.600 clearer right

00:42:59.060 now

00:42:59.220 wherever the

00:42:59.600 US

00:42:59.840 goes

00:43:00.320 it imposes

00:43:01.480 a liberal

00:43:02.280 regime

00:43:02.720 right wing

00:43:03.900 parties

00:43:04.180 are usually

00:43:04.500 banned

00:43:04.860 I mean

00:43:05.060 our kind

00:43:05.360 of right wing

00:43:05.680 parties

00:43:05.920 are usually

00:43:06.240 banned

00:43:06.580 and they

00:43:08.020 impose

00:43:08.400 abortion 1.00

00:43:08.840 and faggotry 1.00

00:43:09.760 and everything 1.00

00:43:10.040 else

00:43:10.400 and the

00:43:10.880 NGOs

00:43:11.240 which are just

00:43:11.840 spokespersons

00:43:13.160 for corporate

00:43:14.380 capital

00:43:14.820 go in and start

00:43:15.920 organizing these

00:43:16.680 institutions

00:43:17.340 the one

00:43:18.800 the one good

00:43:19.000 thing about

00:43:19.320 the American

00:43:19.700 military

00:43:20.080 I will

00:43:20.500 say

00:43:20.800 is that

00:43:21.280 the

00:43:21.400 desertion

00:43:21.840 rates

00:43:22.180 are so

00:43:23.020 high

00:43:23.400 that

00:43:24.520 they

00:43:24.860 haven't

00:43:25.140 seen

00:43:25.340 this

00:43:25.560 since

00:43:25.760 the

00:43:25.900 civil

00:43:26.080 war

00:43:26.380 the

00:43:27.400 US

00:43:27.580 army

00:43:27.920 estimates

00:43:28.760 about

00:43:28.980 30,000

00:43:29.740 cases

00:43:30.920 now that's

00:43:31.480 this is

00:43:31.700 the people

00:43:32.000 who they

00:43:32.260 have

00:43:32.440 cases

00:43:32.760 against

00:43:33.120 have

00:43:34.020 deserted

00:43:34.300 since

00:43:34.500 1996

00:43:35.060 and this

00:43:35.560 was in

00:43:35.820 2008

00:43:36.480 so if

00:43:38.260 you want

00:43:38.420 to

00:43:38.540 extrapolate

00:43:39.660 that

00:43:39.960 it's

00:43:40.280 close to

00:43:40.560 100,000

00:43:41.100 people

00:43:41.460 who they're

00:43:42.440 going after

00:43:42.900 for this

00:43:43.280 so not

00:43:44.380 all the

00:43:44.600 American

00:43:44.820 military

00:43:45.220 soldiers

00:43:46.120 and sailors 0.95

00:43:46.940 are bad

00:43:47.340 so some

00:43:48.940 of them

00:43:49.080 have the

00:43:49.380 guts

00:43:49.620 and to be

00:43:50.000 honest

00:43:50.300 the kind

00:43:51.120 of aesthetic

00:43:51.480 spiritual

00:43:51.860 warfare

00:43:52.120 we're

00:43:52.300 talking

00:43:52.580 about

00:43:52.900 is far

00:43:54.000 more

00:43:54.200 manifest

00:43:54.660 in

00:43:55.380 deserting

00:43:55.840 their post

00:43:56.960 right now

00:43:57.500 fighting for

00:43:58.020 the new

00:43:58.200 world order

00:43:58.600 than it is

00:43:59.340 in pushing

00:43:59.840 buttons

00:44:00.180 and blowing

00:44:00.520 up cities

00:44:01.000 like once

00:44:06.320 the

00:44:06.620 once the

00:44:07.780 paychecks

00:44:08.380 stop

00:44:09.120 flowing

00:44:09.680 you can

00:44:10.700 be sure

00:44:11.120 that

00:44:11.520 the

00:44:13.000 desertion

00:44:13.580 rate

00:44:13.800 is going

00:44:14.160 to go

00:44:14.700 through

00:44:15.020 the roof

00:44:15.480 like if

00:44:16.100 there's any

00:44:16.460 kind of

00:44:16.880 economic

00:44:17.360 problem

00:44:17.920 that makes

00:44:18.500 it difficult

00:44:19.040 for the

00:44:19.720 you know

00:44:21.040 the gives

00:44:21.440 me that

00:44:21.820 system

00:44:22.300 the US

00:44:23.580 military

00:44:23.960 will collapse

00:44:24.660 whereas if

00:44:25.520 you know

00:44:25.900 Russian military

00:44:26.700 has economic

00:44:27.840 problems

00:44:28.760 I mean

00:44:29.380 the soldiers

00:44:30.480 will

00:44:30.860 obviously

00:44:31.340 complain

00:44:31.800 and their

00:44:32.100 morale

00:44:32.340 will drop

00:44:32.920 but I

00:44:33.340 don't think

00:44:33.720 that they're

00:44:34.020 going to

00:44:34.540 you know

00:44:35.960 defect

00:44:36.540 to the

00:44:37.540 American side

00:44:38.120 just because

00:44:38.640 their

00:44:38.940 paychecks

00:44:39.700 are lowered

00:44:40.120 or something

00:44:40.600 when I

00:44:42.340 discovered

00:44:43.160 the amount

00:44:43.840 of money

00:44:44.180 that Air Force

00:44:45.000 officers for

00:44:45.520 example are

00:44:46.020 making

00:44:46.280 I was

00:44:47.920 absolutely

00:44:48.220 shocked

00:44:48.720 and you

00:44:49.420 know

00:44:49.540 you retire

00:44:50.540 after 30

00:44:51.040 years

00:44:51.300 lieutenant colonel

00:44:51.880 in the US

00:44:52.520 Air Force

00:44:53.000 you're making

00:44:54.120 close to

00:44:54.400 $200,000

00:44:55.060 and you

00:44:56.480 have 7%

00:44:57.060 of that

00:44:57.440 70%

00:44:58.440 of that a

00:44:58.720 year for

00:44:59.020 the rest

00:44:59.240 of your

00:44:59.400 line

00:44:59.620 and there

00:45:00.600 are no

00:45:00.740 income

00:45:01.000 limits

00:45:01.320 so some

00:45:02.180 of these

00:45:02.360 guys go

00:45:02.800 as consultants

00:45:03.280 for Blackwater

00:45:03.960 or something

00:45:04.300 like that

00:45:05.020 they're still

00:45:05.880 getting

00:45:06.140 drawing that

00:45:06.640 pension

00:45:06.940 and the

00:45:08.120 fact of the

00:45:08.480 matter is

00:45:08.920 the US

00:45:09.380 Air Force

00:45:09.840 is still

00:45:10.480 700 pilots

00:45:11.940 short

00:45:12.220 they're

00:45:14.860 screaming 0.51

00:45:15.340 screaming for

00:45:15.580 men

00:45:15.780 even with

00:45:16.620 that

00:45:16.780 paycheck

00:45:17.180 no chance

00:45:17.980 of dying

00:45:18.300 all that

00:45:18.640 they're

00:45:18.820 still not

00:45:19.260 joining

00:45:19.800 and they're

00:45:20.040 deserting

00:45:20.320 in huge

00:45:20.700 numbers

00:45:20.980 so this

00:45:22.620 is a

00:45:22.840 positive

00:45:23.160 spin on

00:45:23.920 things

00:45:24.200 and what

00:45:26.200 I mean

00:45:26.460 is that

00:45:26.800 when you

00:45:27.100 desert your

00:45:27.540 post

00:45:27.760 especially

00:45:28.020 at that

00:45:28.300 level

00:45:28.600 your life

00:45:30.240 is probably

00:45:30.540 over

00:45:30.820 and this

00:45:32.100 is a

00:45:32.340 struggle

00:45:32.580 this is

00:45:32.980 the real

00:45:33.260 freedom

00:45:33.640 autonomy

00:45:34.420 against the

00:45:35.600 passions

00:45:36.020 it would be

00:45:37.280 so easy

00:45:37.800 just to

00:45:38.200 collect the

00:45:38.880 paycheck

00:45:39.160 and do

00:45:39.420 what you're

00:45:39.600 supposed to

00:45:39.940 do

00:45:40.060 and be

00:45:40.260 the

00:45:40.400 automaton

00:45:40.900 that

00:45:41.540 militaries

00:45:42.140 want you

00:45:42.700 to be

00:45:42.940 this is

00:45:43.780 not the

00:45:44.200 warrior

00:45:44.400 ethos

00:45:44.800 whatsoever

00:45:45.360 the

00:45:46.220 deserter

00:45:46.600 comes

00:45:47.140 closer to

00:45:47.580 that

00:45:47.740 at least

00:45:48.020 in the

00:45:48.240 American

00:45:48.480 case

00:45:48.880 fighting

00:45:49.380 for the

00:45:49.600 new

00:45:49.700 world

00:45:49.840 order

00:45:50.080 well

00:45:53.960 yeah

00:45:54.180 and I

00:45:55.160 mean

00:45:55.360 the

00:45:55.660 military

00:45:57.180 industrial

00:45:57.720 complex

00:45:58.600 that

00:45:59.700 the

00:46:00.440 left

00:46:00.760 you know

00:46:01.660 to their

00:46:02.320 credit

00:46:02.600 does talk

00:46:03.300 about

00:46:03.660 is a

00:46:04.720 real

00:46:04.840 thing

00:46:05.200 and you

00:46:05.740 see

00:46:06.220 this

00:46:07.860 revolving

00:46:08.380 door

00:46:08.700 between

00:46:09.000 high

00:46:09.280 level

00:46:09.500 military

00:46:09.900 officers

00:46:10.380 and

00:46:10.800 big

00:46:11.380 defense

00:46:12.160 contractors

00:46:12.900 to the

00:46:17.560 point

00:46:17.780 where

00:46:18.060 we

00:46:18.300 can't

00:46:18.680 even

00:46:18.960 make

00:46:19.420 functional

00:46:20.180 technological

00:46:22.000 weapons

00:46:23.260 anymore

00:46:23.800 like

00:46:24.240 that

00:46:24.640 used

00:46:24.880 to be

00:46:25.160 the

00:46:25.340 one

00:46:25.580 thing

00:46:25.820 that

00:46:26.040 the

00:46:26.340 United

00:46:26.560 States

00:46:26.860 was

00:46:27.000 actually

00:46:27.300 good

00:46:27.980 at

00:46:28.340 but

00:46:28.520 we

00:46:28.640 can't

00:46:28.840 even

00:46:28.960 do

00:46:29.080 that

00:46:29.260 anymore

00:46:29.580 which

00:46:32.820 you

00:46:33.120 know

00:46:33.760 the

00:46:34.560 real

00:46:35.220 red

00:46:35.480 pill

00:46:35.700 on

00:46:35.840 that

00:46:35.980 is

00:46:36.160 that

00:46:36.380 oh

00:46:36.660 that's

00:46:36.860 a

00:46:36.940 good

00:46:37.080 thing

00:46:37.340 of

00:46:38.700 course

00:46:39.000 hopefully

00:46:40.900 we

00:46:41.100 get

00:46:41.240 worse

00:46:41.480 at

00:46:41.660 it

00:46:42.420 yeah

00:46:45.200 yeah

00:46:45.980 no

00:46:46.320 I

00:46:46.780 think

00:46:48.120 that's

00:46:49.880 pretty

00:46:50.180 pretty

00:46:50.520 good

00:46:50.860 anybody

00:46:51.480 who

00:46:51.720 wants

00:46:52.020 any

00:46:52.180 further

00:46:52.500 resources

00:46:52.940 on

00:46:53.220 this

00:46:53.500 I mean

00:46:54.020 this

00:46:55.140 is

00:46:55.520 metaphysics

00:46:56.780 of war

00:46:57.060 is really

00:46:57.400 a great

00:46:57.660 place

00:46:57.860 to start

00:46:58.140 it's

00:46:58.300 like

00:46:58.420 250

00:46:58.880 pages

00:46:59.380 it's

00:47:00.240 not

00:47:00.420 expensive

00:47:00.820 if

00:47:01.480 you

00:47:01.580 go

00:47:01.760 to

00:47:01.920 the

00:47:02.260 iron

00:47:02.900 march

00:47:03.180 antimony

00:47:03.700 group

00:47:04.060 you

00:47:05.120 can

00:47:05.300 find

00:47:05.780 a

00:47:06.220 PDF

00:47:06.500 of it

00:47:06.840 there

00:47:07.120 I

00:47:07.240 believe

00:47:07.560 so

00:47:08.240 you

00:47:08.360 know

00:47:08.480 bug

00:47:08.760 Alexander

00:47:09.180 Slavros 0.99

00:47:09.720 or

00:47:10.100 somebody

00:47:10.900 else

00:47:11.200 who

00:47:11.400 is

00:47:11.720 over

00:47:12.440 there

00:47:12.640 and

00:47:12.800 he

00:47:12.900 can

00:47:13.020 probably

00:47:13.220 find

00:47:13.460 you

00:47:13.540 a

00:47:13.660 link

00:47:13.860 although

00:47:14.920 he

00:47:15.120 will

00:47:15.240 probably

00:47:15.540 be

00:47:15.780 pissed

00:47:16.000 that

00:47:16.180 you

00:47:16.280 didn't

00:47:16.460 find

00:47:16.640 it

00:47:16.720 yourself

00:47:17.020 so

00:47:17.500 now

00:47:19.060 this

00:47:20.640 is

00:47:21.900 the

00:47:22.160 physical

00:47:22.620 manifestation

00:47:23.300 of

00:47:23.500 spiritual

00:47:23.840 warfare

00:47:24.300 but

00:47:25.740 I

00:47:26.180 think

00:47:26.380 one

00:47:26.740 of

00:47:26.860 the

00:47:27.000 things

00:47:27.200 that

00:47:27.360 we've

00:47:27.540 talked

00:47:27.760 about

00:47:30.820 the

00:47:32.380 material

00:47:32.880 is

00:47:33.360 less

00:47:33.840 real

00:47:34.280 than

00:47:34.660 the

00:47:34.860 spiritual

00:47:35.200 because

00:47:36.300 the

00:47:36.500 material

00:47:36.880 is

00:47:37.540 in

00:47:38.060 time

00:47:38.600 it's

00:47:39.720 constantly

00:47:40.160 changing

00:47:40.720 there's

00:47:41.300 no

00:47:41.560 stability

00:47:42.280 whereas

00:47:43.420 the

00:47:43.660 spiritual

00:47:44.000 is

00:47:44.420 eternal

00:47:44.860 it's

00:47:45.840 outside

00:47:46.180 of

00:47:46.380 this

00:47:46.540 flux

00:47:47.100 it

00:47:48.020 is

00:47:48.440 anchored

00:47:49.040 in

00:47:49.260 a

00:47:49.400 metaphysical

00:47:49.920 reality

00:47:50.500 that

00:47:51.080 is

00:47:51.240 subject

00:47:51.500 to

00:47:51.720 law

00:47:52.020 and

00:47:52.160 order

00:47:52.500 but

00:47:53.260 is

00:47:53.460 not

00:47:53.820 necessarily

00:47:54.380 subject

00:47:54.900 to

00:47:55.120 change

00:47:55.660 and

00:47:56.980 so

00:47:57.240 when

00:47:57.480 we

00:47:57.640 talk

00:47:57.980 about

00:47:58.240 spiritual

00:47:58.920 warfare

00:47:59.360 against

00:48:00.040 not

00:48:02.020 in

00:48:02.140 the

00:48:02.280 physical

00:48:02.580 realm

00:48:02.880 but

00:48:03.060 in

00:48:03.180 the

00:48:03.300 spiritual

00:48:03.600 realm

00:48:03.960 we're

00:48:04.560 not

00:48:04.780 talking

00:48:05.220 about

00:48:05.440 something

00:48:05.720 that's

00:48:06.100 fluffy

00:48:08.700 and less

00:48:09.460 real

00:48:09.840 and difficult

00:48:10.300 to grasp

00:48:10.960 because

00:48:11.460 it's

00:48:11.900 made up

00:48:12.220 by a bunch

00:48:12.600 of hippie 1.00

00:48:12.940 faggots 1.00

00:48:13.320 no 1.00

00:48:13.600 we're

00:48:13.920 talking

00:48:14.280 about

00:48:14.500 something

00:48:14.720 that's

00:48:14.940 more

00:48:15.180 important

00:48:15.680 that's

00:48:16.460 more

00:48:16.660 real

00:48:17.020 if

00:48:18.060 you're

00:48:18.200 a 1.00

00:48:18.340 coward 1.00

00:48:18.680 you can't 1.00

00:48:19.340 even

00:48:19.500 pick up

00:48:19.840 a

00:48:19.960 rifle

00:48:20.260 it's

00:48:22.060 simple

00:48:22.480 if

00:48:23.600 you're

00:48:24.400 a 1.00

00:48:25.060 pussy 1.00

00:48:25.420 you're 1.00

00:48:25.860 not

00:48:26.040 going

00:48:26.160 to

00:48:26.200 be

00:48:26.300 able

00:48:26.400 to

00:48:26.540 endure

00:48:26.840 pain

00:48:27.480 you're

00:48:28.840 not

00:48:28.980 going

00:48:29.100 to

00:48:29.700 march

00:48:30.280 for a

00:48:31.460 month

00:48:31.760 just

00:48:32.340 to

00:48:32.480 fight

00:48:32.640 somebody

00:48:32.940 for a

00:48:33.240 day

00:48:33.420 it's

00:48:34.640 not

00:48:34.800 going

00:48:34.920 to

00:48:34.980 happen

00:48:35.240 and

00:48:36.400 so

00:48:36.540 this

00:48:36.720 is

00:48:37.240 just

00:48:37.760 critical

00:48:38.120 that

00:48:38.260 people

00:48:38.440 understand

00:48:38.900 this

00:48:39.140 because

00:48:39.360 we've

00:48:39.600 been

00:48:39.760 led

00:48:41.880 to see

00:48:42.440 the

00:48:42.760 spiritual

00:48:43.140 as

00:48:43.540 something

00:48:43.800 fundamentally

00:48:44.300 less

00:48:44.660 real

00:48:45.040 yeah

00:48:48.340 yeah

00:48:48.360 that's

00:48:48.680 the

00:48:49.040 opposition

00:48:49.660 of the

00:48:50.240 traditional

00:48:51.020 worldview

00:48:51.500 to the

00:48:51.860 modern

00:48:52.120 worldview

00:48:52.540 this is

00:48:53.360 where all

00:48:54.020 of these

00:48:54.660 problems

00:48:55.120 come from

00:48:55.660 the

00:48:56.520 perception

00:48:57.000 that the

00:48:57.780 material

00:48:58.580 is more

00:48:59.040 real

00:48:59.320 than the

00:49:00.320 spiritual

00:49:01.060 yeah

00:49:03.460 precisely

00:49:03.900 precisely

00:49:05.340 and I

00:49:06.100 mean

00:49:06.220 this is

00:49:06.600 part of

00:49:07.260 the

00:49:07.500 great

00:49:08.600 game

00:49:08.980 this is

00:49:09.800 part of

00:49:10.140 the

00:49:10.460 satanic

00:49:11.180 dialectic

00:49:11.860 if they

00:49:14.500 can convince

00:49:14.920 people of

00:49:15.340 this

00:49:15.500 that the

00:49:15.980 spiritual

00:49:16.260 doesn't

00:49:16.540 really

00:49:16.700 matter

00:49:17.020 of course

00:49:17.580 I mean

00:49:17.960 they win

00:49:18.360 people

00:49:19.140 don't

00:49:19.660 even

00:49:19.880 I'm

00:49:21.020 certain

00:49:21.380 that

00:49:22.820 probably

00:49:23.220 a quarter

00:49:24.240 of our

00:49:24.780 listeners

00:49:25.160 do not

00:49:26.620 believe

00:49:27.160 that demons

00:49:27.740 exist

00:49:28.220 even on

00:49:29.160 the far

00:49:29.480 right

00:49:29.700 and then

00:49:31.080 what we're

00:49:31.440 saying

00:49:31.920 right now

00:49:32.560 seems to

00:49:33.480 them

00:49:33.600 foolishness 0.99

00:49:34.180 I'd ask 1.00

00:49:34.780 them to

00:49:35.020 continue

00:49:35.300 listening

00:49:35.720 and see

00:49:36.220 if you

00:49:37.040 can't

00:49:37.340 have

00:49:37.480 your

00:49:37.620 mind

00:49:38.000 changed

00:49:38.760 or at

00:49:39.240 least

00:49:39.340 consider

00:49:39.660 a

00:49:39.800 different

00:49:39.960 argument

00:49:40.280 but

00:49:40.680 that's

00:49:41.080 the

00:49:41.220 level

00:49:41.400 where

00:49:41.600 the

00:49:41.780 people

00:49:41.980 don't

00:49:42.220 even

00:49:42.500 acknowledge

00:49:43.180 this

00:49:43.440 entire

00:49:43.840 realm

00:49:44.340 of

00:49:44.980 warfare

00:49:45.420 that

00:49:45.620 we're

00:49:45.760 going

00:49:45.960 to

00:49:46.060 go

00:49:46.180 into

00:49:46.320 they

00:49:46.460 don't

00:49:46.620 think

00:49:46.800 it's

00:49:46.940 real

00:49:47.180 maybe

00:49:50.000 not

00:49:50.360 for

00:49:50.560 today

00:49:50.840 but

00:49:51.080 for

00:49:51.380 a

00:49:51.560 future

00:49:51.860 episode

00:49:52.320 it

00:49:52.820 would

00:49:53.000 be

00:49:53.180 interesting

00:49:53.660 to

00:49:54.380 talk

00:49:54.680 about

00:49:55.020 the

00:49:55.380 evidence

00:49:56.240 for

00:49:56.900 these

00:49:57.260 spiritual

00:49:57.780 things

00:49:58.440 because

00:49:59.140 I can

00:49:59.860 understand

00:50:00.200 I was

00:50:00.740 not

00:50:00.960 convinced

00:50:01.400 of

00:50:01.660 any

00:50:02.060 of

00:50:02.440 these

00:50:02.620 things

00:50:02.980 before

00:50:03.400 I

00:50:04.060 started

00:50:04.480 studying

00:50:05.060 empirical

00:50:06.100 evidence

00:50:06.660 and

00:50:07.020 I mean

00:50:07.220 of

00:50:07.420 course

00:50:07.720 if

00:50:09.140 you

00:50:09.300 have

00:50:09.500 these

00:50:09.700 spiritual

00:50:10.020 worldview

00:50:11.760 you don't

00:50:12.740 view

00:50:13.060 science

00:50:13.620 as being

00:50:14.240 like

00:50:14.520 an

00:50:15.300 overriding

00:50:16.100 of having

00:50:17.780 overriding

00:50:18.580 validity

00:50:18.980 over

00:50:19.580 spiritual

00:50:20.860 issues

00:50:21.460 but

00:50:21.900 I mean

00:50:23.180 to get

00:50:23.640 to that

00:50:23.980 point

00:50:24.360 evidence

00:50:24.900 is always

00:50:25.660 a good

00:50:26.560 thing

00:50:26.920 and I

00:50:27.660 think

00:50:27.820 it would

00:50:28.020 help

00:50:28.220 a lot

00:50:28.480 of

00:50:28.600 people

00:50:28.900 if we

00:50:29.460 talked

00:50:29.840 about

00:50:30.060 those

00:50:30.280 things

00:50:30.660 very

00:50:31.600 briefly

00:50:31.960 I

00:50:32.160 think

00:50:32.340 the

00:50:32.500 ultimate

00:50:32.720 empirical

00:50:33.100 evidence

00:50:33.500 for

00:50:33.660 me

00:50:33.920 was

00:50:34.780 videotaped

00:50:36.140 demonic

00:50:36.600 possession

00:50:36.900 case

00:50:37.220 because

00:50:38.440 when a

00:50:39.260 three-year-old

00:50:39.980 begins speaking

00:50:40.980 perfect

00:50:41.500 Coptic

00:50:42.020 generally

00:50:43.180 speaking

00:50:43.680 you know

00:50:44.320 it's not

00:50:44.520 coming from

00:50:44.840 her

00:50:45.040 and usually

00:50:47.380 the church

00:50:48.260 has these

00:50:48.900 very distinct

00:50:49.940 marks

00:50:50.420 that distinguish

00:50:51.640 possession

00:50:52.120 from hysteria

00:50:52.880 or mental

00:50:53.120 illness

00:50:53.500 and speaking

00:50:54.760 flawless

00:50:55.460 languages

00:50:56.340 like

00:50:56.700 especially

00:50:57.100 dead ones

00:50:57.680 is a

00:50:58.400 pretty good

00:50:58.680 indication

00:50:59.180 so the

00:51:02.220 empirical

00:51:02.460 evidence

00:51:02.840 I don't

00:51:03.180 know

00:51:03.300 what

00:51:03.480 these

00:51:03.620 guys

00:51:03.820 would

00:51:03.960 do

00:51:04.080 with

00:51:04.220 this

00:51:04.460 you know

00:51:05.440 it

00:51:05.860 happens

00:51:06.180 we have

00:51:06.440 video

00:51:06.660 of it

00:51:06.940 you know

00:51:07.760 they have

00:51:08.180 to be

00:51:08.340 dishonest

00:51:08.840 and somebody 0.79

00:51:09.420 just dismiss

00:51:09.880 it

00:51:10.080 well

00:51:11.060 like

00:51:11.580 the

00:51:11.780 interesting

00:51:12.240 thing

00:51:12.800 is

00:51:13.440 when you

00:51:14.460 look

00:51:14.880 at

00:51:15.280 the

00:51:15.600 debates

00:51:16.280 between

00:51:17.220 you know

00:51:17.780 materialist

00:51:18.460 atheists 1.00

00:51:19.160 and

00:51:20.060 the people

00:51:20.580 who are

00:51:20.920 researching

00:51:21.580 on a

00:51:22.340 scientific

00:51:22.640 level

00:51:23.080 these

00:51:23.760 spiritual

00:51:24.300 issues

00:51:25.080 and

00:51:26.020 one of

00:51:26.680 the things

00:51:26.920 that convinced

00:51:27.360 me the

00:51:27.660 most

00:51:27.980 is to

00:51:28.720 see how

00:51:29.100 dishonest

00:51:30.040 and 0.98

00:51:30.880 irrational

00:51:31.620 the 0.84

00:51:32.300 atheists 1.00

00:51:32.900 and the

00:51:33.580 materialists

00:51:34.820 were

00:51:35.060 they would

00:51:35.920 distort

00:51:36.380 things

00:51:37.000 they would

00:51:37.420 set up

00:51:37.800 standards

00:51:38.280 that could 0.68

00:51:38.960 never be

00:51:39.340 met

00:51:39.620 and then

00:51:40.000 when they

00:51:41.000 actually would

00:51:41.840 be met

00:51:42.280 they would

00:51:42.980 change the

00:51:43.620 standards

00:51:44.000 and say

00:51:44.300 well yeah

00:51:44.820 you did it

00:51:45.820 but you know

00:51:46.520 it has to be

00:51:47.420 even harder

00:51:47.840 than that

00:51:48.320 so like

00:51:49.160 this extreme

00:51:50.000 dishonesty

00:51:50.660 and irrationality

00:51:51.820 on the

00:51:52.440 part of the

00:51:53.320 atheists 1.00

00:51:54.240 is I think

00:51:56.080 very convincing

00:51:57.880 for people

00:51:58.580 who are

00:51:59.320 you know

00:51:59.680 honest

00:52:00.240 and

00:52:00.820 open

00:52:01.840 minded

00:52:02.160 yeah

00:52:05.860 for me

00:52:06.960 my journey

00:52:08.420 started

00:52:08.900 essentially

00:52:09.500 with

00:52:09.780 mathematics

00:52:10.260 and logic

00:52:10.880 I was

00:52:11.420 I was a

00:52:11.920 convinced

00:52:12.180 materialist

00:52:12.860 I was

00:52:13.260 at best

00:52:16.300 an agnostic

00:52:17.020 and that

00:52:18.160 probably only

00:52:18.800 for reasons

00:52:19.380 of well

00:52:20.460 you know

00:52:21.460 everyone else

00:52:23.020 believes in

00:52:23.480 God

00:52:23.820 you know

00:52:24.380 like all my

00:52:25.320 ancestors did

00:52:26.120 so it

00:52:26.460 doesn't

00:52:26.760 you know

00:52:27.560 at this

00:52:28.200 level

00:52:28.540 you know

00:52:29.900 a pinch 0.94

00:52:31.800 of incense

00:52:32.380 doesn't really

00:52:32.900 hurt me

00:52:33.260 so it

00:52:33.480 doesn't

00:52:33.660 matter

00:52:33.900 but

00:52:35.260 as I

00:52:37.080 was

00:52:37.340 investigating

00:52:38.140 philosophy

00:52:39.900 and logic

00:52:40.680 and mathematics

00:52:41.440 and how

00:52:42.580 these things

00:52:43.060 tie together

00:52:43.780 and I

00:52:45.960 don't

00:52:47.180 it's

00:52:48.140 somewhat

00:52:48.900 difficult

00:52:49.260 to condense

00:52:50.280 a lifetime

00:52:51.720 of investigation

00:52:52.580 in a

00:52:54.060 conversational

00:52:54.700 manner

00:52:55.060 but

00:52:55.380 the

00:52:57.120 summary

00:52:57.840 version

00:52:58.280 is

00:52:58.640 essentially

00:52:59.040 there's

00:52:59.280 no

00:52:59.480 argument

00:52:59.960 against

00:53:00.480 the

00:53:00.940 spiritual

00:53:01.320 realm

00:53:01.740 against

00:53:02.080 God

00:53:02.660 that

00:53:04.220 isn't

00:53:04.580 also

00:53:04.840 an

00:53:05.020 argument

00:53:05.300 against

00:53:05.600 mathematics

00:53:06.240 I mean

00:53:06.820 a

00:53:08.720 prime

00:53:09.820 mover

00:53:10.820 a

00:53:11.660 first

00:53:12.120 cause

00:53:12.740 is

00:53:13.000 logically

00:53:13.600 entailed

00:53:14.240 in

00:53:14.980 in the

00:53:17.560 existence

00:53:17.840 of anything

00:53:18.460 and

00:53:20.020 so

00:53:20.420 methodological

00:53:26.360 materialist

00:53:27.880 either

00:53:28.780 wants

00:53:29.660 to

00:53:29.900 disbelieve

00:53:30.680 or

00:53:30.980 is

00:53:31.260 simply 1.00

00:53:31.560 ignorant 1.00

00:53:31.900 those 1.00

00:53:32.260 are

00:53:32.360 the

00:53:32.440 only

00:53:32.560 two

00:53:32.740 options

00:53:33.040 to

00:53:33.220 me

00:53:33.420 yeah

00:53:35.480 well

00:53:35.740 I mean

00:53:36.020 as

00:53:36.240 Dugin

00:53:36.540 would

00:53:36.700 say

00:53:36.980 you know

00:53:37.380 they're

00:53:37.700 either 1.00

00:53:37.940 stupid 1.00

00:53:38.560 or evil 1.00

00:53:39.680 or both

00:53:40.680 you know

00:53:42.240 so

00:53:43.280 but

00:53:44.740 yeah

00:53:45.540 no

00:53:45.720 and I

00:53:45.880 think

00:53:46.020 that's

00:53:46.500 a good

00:53:47.420 preamble

00:53:47.820 on the

00:53:48.080 philosophical

00:53:48.540 nature

00:53:48.920 so

00:53:50.560 I think

00:53:53.420 I was

00:53:54.760 going to

00:53:54.960 discuss

00:53:55.220 basic

00:53:55.660 demonology

00:53:56.200 and talking

00:53:56.680 about

00:53:57.100 who these

00:53:58.020 spirits are

00:53:58.500 that were

00:53:58.720 fighting

00:53:59.000 these

00:53:59.240 demons

00:53:59.580 but I 0.70

00:54:01.080 think

00:54:01.220 that it

00:54:01.460 actually

00:54:01.780 might be

00:54:02.120 more useful

00:54:02.660 to discuss

00:54:03.440 the anatomy

00:54:04.300 of the

00:54:04.780 soul

00:54:05.160 just

00:54:06.180 very

00:54:06.580 basic

00:54:07.260 personal

00:54:08.420 metaphysics

00:54:09.180 that people

00:54:10.200 understand

00:54:10.840 that

00:54:11.340 you know

00:54:11.880 how do

00:54:12.820 we fight

00:54:13.260 okay

00:54:14.240 you know

00:54:14.920 I mean

00:54:15.100 because we

00:54:15.380 know that

00:54:15.640 when we

00:54:15.860 fight in

00:54:16.100 the physical

00:54:16.440 realm

00:54:16.820 we use

00:54:19.040 weapons

00:54:19.420 we have

00:54:19.840 arms

00:54:20.320 we use

00:54:20.940 technology

00:54:21.520 there are

00:54:22.540 organs

00:54:23.080 right

00:54:23.580 that we

00:54:23.940 use to

00:54:24.260 interact

00:54:24.660 with the

00:54:24.940 world

00:54:25.240 but

00:54:26.300 there's

00:54:26.680 this is

00:54:27.100 as of

00:54:27.400 so alone

00:54:28.100 pretty good

00:54:28.740 maxim to

00:54:29.260 recall

00:54:29.640 hermetic

00:54:30.180 as it

00:54:30.520 is

00:54:30.860 there's a

00:54:32.160 corollary

00:54:32.580 in the

00:54:32.840 spiritual

00:54:33.100 realm

00:54:33.440 rather the

00:54:34.420 physical

00:54:34.700 is the

00:54:35.000 corollary

00:54:35.420 of the

00:54:35.800 spiritual

00:54:36.080 and so

00:54:37.080 you know

00:54:39.380 I have

00:54:41.040 basic

00:54:41.360 metaphysical

00:54:41.780 knowledge

00:54:42.120 but I

00:54:42.380 think

00:54:42.520 Dr.

00:54:42.880 Johnson

00:54:43.040 probably

00:54:43.280 has a

00:54:43.600 much

00:54:43.800 better

00:54:44.140 understanding

00:54:45.140 of this

00:54:45.440 so Dr.

00:54:45.840 Johnson

00:54:46.040 would you

00:54:46.280 care to

00:54:46.520 give us

00:54:46.920 the

00:54:47.900 basic

00:54:48.280 anatomy

00:54:49.100 of the

00:54:49.360 soul

00:54:49.580 from a

00:54:50.160 platonic

00:54:50.540 viewpoint

00:54:50.920 or an

00:54:51.260 orthodox

00:54:51.560 viewpoint

00:54:51.860 yes

00:54:53.360 no problem

00:54:54.100 at all

00:54:54.340 there's really

00:54:54.660 two points

00:54:55.160 of view

00:54:55.460 the overwhelming

00:54:57.100 majority of the church

00:54:57.920 fathers believe that the soul has three parts

00:55:00.320 now this is something that's gotten people in trouble in the past

00:55:03.520 including myself

00:55:04.300 donald damaskus for example

00:55:07.520 believe that the soul

00:55:09.340 Justin Martyr is another one

00:55:10.780 believe that the soul is created

00:55:12.460 that ultimately

00:55:13.860 it's

00:55:14.680 you know

00:55:16.520 and it will die

00:55:17.820 unless god

00:55:19.800 specifically

00:55:20.440 keeps it going

00:55:21.580 there is

00:55:23.980 the

00:55:24.280 you know

00:55:24.520 the soul is made

00:55:25.500 with the human body

00:55:26.540 as one object

00:55:27.560 they're only

00:55:28.940 distinguishable

00:55:29.660 analytically speaking

00:55:30.980 mind and body

00:55:34.240 in

00:55:34.860 Spinoza's sense

00:55:36.180 is something that

00:55:37.800 everyone's born with

00:55:38.600 at least the potential

00:55:40.200 of becoming a free man

00:55:41.180 the mind

00:55:42.060 being able to

00:55:42.860 to

00:55:43.200 do battle

00:55:45.440 with the flesh

00:55:46.160 and by the flesh

00:55:46.960 we mean

00:55:47.500 that

00:55:48.180 appetitive part

00:55:49.040 of the soul

00:55:49.460 the soul

00:55:50.760 that desires

00:55:51.460 immediate

00:55:52.140 gratification

00:55:52.960 now

00:55:54.200 that has nothing to do

00:55:55.840 with Christianity

00:55:56.320 though

00:55:56.560 the third part

00:55:58.340 is what

00:55:59.060 the fathers call

00:55:59.820 noose

00:56:00.200 noose is not

00:56:01.400 reason

00:56:01.780 at least not in the sense

00:56:02.500 we normally use

00:56:03.100 the term as logic

00:56:03.900 it's something that's

00:56:05.660 above that

00:56:06.160 that's what keeps

00:56:07.620 the soul immoral

00:56:08.300 this is a spirit

00:56:09.760 that only comes

00:56:10.460 from baptism

00:56:11.000 and now

00:56:13.260 it entails us

00:56:14.080 to think that

00:56:14.700 only orthodox people

00:56:16.140 are actually free

00:56:17.260 which I

00:56:18.960 actually have a tendency

00:56:19.780 to believe

00:56:20.260 although there may be

00:56:21.520 a few exceptions

00:56:22.180 like Plato

00:56:22.680 but

00:56:22.940 that if the soul

00:56:25.340 is a creation

00:56:26.140 and in and of itself

00:56:27.200 would die

00:56:27.700 without God's 0.99

00:56:28.560 direct intervention

00:56:29.320 then really

00:56:31.500 only orthodox people

00:56:32.400 have the capacity

00:56:33.460 because they

00:56:34.400 have the third element

00:56:35.500 added to them

00:56:36.120 and that is

00:56:36.760 the spiritual side

00:56:37.500 the noose

00:56:38.220 we have

00:56:40.220 vistas of existence

00:56:41.100 open to us

00:56:42.040 and by us

00:56:43.120 I mean actual ascetics

00:56:44.220 they can simply

00:56:45.980 see more

00:56:46.540 than we can

00:56:47.620 because we are so

00:56:49.320 laden down

00:56:50.340 with the flesh

00:56:50.840 and worried about

00:56:52.400 money and bills

00:56:53.060 and all this stuff

00:56:53.740 we've learned

00:56:54.960 that you know

00:56:55.480 our vision

00:56:56.560 is just tunnel vision

00:56:57.300 at this point

00:56:57.800 and I've made this point

00:56:59.920 I know you've mentioned

00:57:00.520 it a long time ago

00:57:01.240 you know

00:57:02.380 when my kids were little

00:57:03.120 they saw a thing

00:57:04.380 they were innocent

00:57:05.440 they weren't laden down

00:57:06.360 with this stuff

00:57:06.900 or in church

00:57:08.120 they would make reference

00:57:09.140 to things

00:57:09.620 they heard

00:57:10.120 they saw things

00:57:10.740 that they couldn't

00:57:11.660 have made up

00:57:12.140 but

00:57:13.580 the soul

00:57:14.720 the

00:57:16.940 reason

00:57:18.540 and flesh

00:57:19.680 these are both

00:57:20.460 created things

00:57:21.160 this is

00:57:22.720 nothing special

00:57:23.420 the rational part

00:57:25.900 of the human soul

00:57:26.560 in the patristic sense

00:57:27.720 is not identical

00:57:28.640 to what Plato

00:57:29.320 would say

00:57:29.700 in the patristic sense

00:57:32.220 everyone has this

00:57:33.700 whether they're baptized

00:57:34.320 or not

00:57:34.820 and really what it

00:57:36.060 comes down to

00:57:36.680 is that this is how

00:57:37.800 our passions

00:57:38.480 are rationalized

00:57:39.300 it's not the same

00:57:40.720 thing as noose

00:57:41.360 which is

00:57:42.220 that could dominate

00:57:42.900 the passions

00:57:43.340 and keep them

00:57:44.360 in their place

00:57:44.880 so that's one big

00:57:47.200 difference between

00:57:47.560 the patristic idea

00:57:48.200 and the platonic idea

00:57:49.100 although I think

00:57:50.960 Plato did have

00:57:51.540 a special insight

00:57:52.240 that very few

00:57:52.920 others had

00:57:53.660 the Romanian church

00:57:55.300 sees him as

00:57:55.860 almost a prophet

00:57:56.740 and I have a tendency

00:57:58.420 to do that too

00:57:59.120 but he's an exception

00:58:00.960 all Orthodox people

00:58:02.480 upon the baptism

00:58:03.480 receive the spirit

00:58:04.840 which is the third

00:58:06.960 part of the soul

00:58:07.660 that provides

00:58:09.420 the possibility

00:58:10.020 through asceticism

00:58:10.920 of actually living

00:58:12.060 an autonomous life

00:58:13.400 in a way that

00:58:15.100 Kant defines autonomy 1.00

00:58:16.260 in the critique

00:58:17.100 of practical reason

00:58:17.720 so ultimately

00:58:20.760 you have three parts

00:58:21.620 the first part

00:58:23.380 is of course

00:58:23.900 the passions

00:58:24.380 the appetite

00:58:25.240 the second part

00:58:26.620 is reason

00:58:27.380 in the vulgar sense

00:58:28.660 you know logic

00:58:29.220 and the third part

00:58:30.800 is added

00:58:31.140 and it's sacramental

00:58:32.020 and that's the spirit

00:58:33.060 that lasts forever

00:58:35.520 that's eternal

00:58:36.080 and it's the ultimate

00:58:38.620 part of the human person

00:58:39.840 on the other hand

00:58:40.720 Plato

00:58:41.020 has three parts

00:58:42.300 as well

00:58:42.760 the first part

00:58:45.360 is the passions

00:58:45.820 that's the same

00:58:46.520 the second part

00:58:47.740 is always a matter

00:58:48.320 of debate

00:58:48.780 it's really more

00:58:49.800 like

00:58:50.120 you know

00:58:52.740 the day-to-day virtues

00:58:54.020 you have to have

00:58:54.740 you know

00:58:56.160 spirit so to speak

00:58:57.620 in a sense of being

00:58:58.240 spirited

00:58:58.640 enthusiastic

00:58:59.120 and the third

00:59:00.480 is reason

00:59:01.280 the ability

00:59:02.460 to see forms

00:59:03.240 to see logos

00:59:04.600 in created things

00:59:05.780 which

00:59:06.560 you know

00:59:07.060 in his mind

00:59:07.760 very very few people get

00:59:08.940 so it doesn't take

00:59:10.660 a genius to realize

00:59:11.520 that you know

00:59:11.980 reading Plato

00:59:12.480 it's not

00:59:13.760 that far

00:59:14.600 to become orthodox

00:59:15.820 afterwards

00:59:16.200 but with those

00:59:17.600 modifications

00:59:18.360 not every church

00:59:20.560 father

00:59:20.920 believes that

00:59:21.600 there are some

00:59:22.000 who only believe

00:59:22.440 there are two parts

00:59:23.180 of the soul

00:59:23.540 like Saint Ambrose

00:59:24.200 but generally speaking

00:59:25.520 body and soul

00:59:27.240 by themselves

00:59:28.060 these are mortal

00:59:29.040 this is just

00:59:30.460 a martyr's view

00:59:31.000 only when the third

00:59:32.740 part

00:59:33.060 spirit is added

00:59:33.760 through baptism

00:59:34.360 then the soul

00:59:35.540 is permanently

00:59:36.160 immortal

00:59:36.540 and can actually

00:59:39.860 be judged

00:59:40.360 because you actually

00:59:41.740 have free will

00:59:42.660 and you could

00:59:43.480 follow the rules

00:59:44.680 of the church

00:59:45.000 freely

00:59:45.300 now when I say

00:59:47.020 a soul dies

00:59:47.780 I don't mean

00:59:48.320 it goes out of existence

00:59:49.020 I mean it goes to

00:59:50.720 what Gregory of Nyssa

00:59:51.560 would call Hades

00:59:52.300 sheol

00:59:53.060 the place of death

00:59:54.960 the Catholic word

00:59:56.520 limbo means

00:59:57.200 on the edge of

00:59:57.960 in Latin

00:59:58.740 on the edge of hell

00:59:59.680 it's not pleasant

01:00:00.620 it's not unpleasant

01:00:01.240 it's just kind of

01:00:02.420 a

01:00:03.040 semi-conscious existence

01:00:05.300 because these people

01:00:07.340 really weren't free

01:00:08.020 and can't judge

01:00:09.140 one way or the other

01:00:09.680 so

01:00:11.160 in other words

01:00:12.360 for John of Damascus

01:00:13.600 only Orthodox people

01:00:15.000 can go to heaven 0.60

01:00:15.620 or hell

01:00:16.060 because only they

01:00:17.560 have the spirit

01:00:18.120 added to them

01:00:18.580 with baptism

01:00:19.060 that permits them

01:00:20.060 through asceticism

01:00:20.840 to make free choices

01:00:22.040 in an autonomous sense

01:00:23.320 right

01:00:27.440 and so

01:00:28.380 the

01:00:30.280 I think that's a pretty

01:00:34.200 good understanding

01:00:35.080 so

01:00:35.600 the

01:00:36.020 the way it's described

01:00:37.520 in the Orthodox Church

01:00:38.860 is very different

01:00:39.560 from the way it's understood

01:00:40.440 in the Catholic Church

01:00:41.360 the Catholic

01:00:42.440 you know

01:00:44.700 Thomistic

01:00:45.320 Aristotelian 0.82

01:00:46.780 metaphysics

01:00:47.360 would say

01:00:47.800 that the soul

01:00:48.340 is composed of

01:00:49.160 the two organs

01:00:49.820 of the mind

01:00:50.300 and the will

01:00:50.700 and that's it

01:00:51.320 okay

01:00:52.660 and that

01:00:53.540 you know

01:00:53.780 the

01:00:53.960 the way they look at grace

01:00:55.760 and I mean

01:00:56.060 it's not really useful

01:00:56.800 we're not going to use that

01:00:57.660 in the subject

01:00:57.980 but I think that was good

01:00:58.860 to give people

01:00:59.560 an understanding

01:01:00.380 of what we're doing

01:01:01.120 so when we're dealing

01:01:02.780 with

01:01:03.300 demons

01:01:04.880 I suppose 0.96

01:01:06.360 it would be best

01:01:07.500 to understand

01:01:08.020 you know

01:01:08.380 what is

01:01:09.120 a demonic entity

01:01:10.220 so I guess

01:01:11.820 what we can do

01:01:12.920 is just

01:01:13.260 recount the story

01:01:14.780 of the fall

01:01:15.360 and then we can

01:01:16.560 open it up

01:01:17.000 to a little

01:01:17.320 discussion of demons

01:01:18.300 in terms of

01:01:19.260 their nature

01:01:19.740 and then

01:01:20.560 we can

01:01:21.280 talk about

01:01:22.780 how they influence us

01:01:24.200 actually

01:01:25.140 if I could just

01:01:27.040 interject

01:01:27.700 I do kind of

01:01:30.060 have

01:01:30.420 a

01:01:31.020 catholic

01:01:33.520 version

01:01:34.740 of that

01:01:35.780 anatomy

01:01:37.360 of the soul

01:01:37.920 so

01:01:39.020 from

01:01:40.080 my admittedly

01:01:42.580 incomplete

01:01:43.340 understanding

01:01:43.980 but

01:01:44.240 all of my reading

01:01:45.880 has led me

01:01:46.440 to this

01:01:47.860 synthesis

01:01:48.540 that

01:01:49.820 you're right

01:01:52.000 the Thomistic

01:01:52.980 conception

01:01:53.480 of the soul

01:01:54.280 is that you

01:01:55.880 have the

01:01:56.700 animal soul

01:01:57.580 and the

01:01:59.120 purely human soul

01:02:00.440 which we would

01:02:01.120 equate with

01:02:01.740 human reason

01:02:02.700 right

01:02:03.020 so

01:02:03.400 what

01:02:04.740 our Cartesian

01:02:06.700 would call

01:02:07.140 mind

01:02:07.720 right

01:02:08.180 is

01:02:08.600 directly

01:02:09.980 equivalent

01:02:10.640 with

01:02:11.180 the human

01:02:11.900 soul

01:02:12.280 and then

01:02:13.440 the animal

01:02:13.840 soul

01:02:14.220 is the

01:02:14.680 sort of

01:02:15.060 is the

01:02:15.460 base

01:02:15.940 passions

01:02:16.780 right

01:02:18.000 the

01:02:18.320 instincts

01:02:19.120 the autonomous

01:02:19.720 system

01:02:20.320 and

01:02:22.020 these two

01:02:23.980 pieces

01:02:24.680 of the soul

01:02:25.680 are

01:02:26.460 in a

01:02:27.880 what could

01:02:30.200 be called

01:02:30.520 the form

01:02:31.300 of the body

01:02:32.940 right

01:02:33.400 so

01:02:34.260 your body

01:02:36.740 is the matter

01:02:37.440 and your soul

01:02:38.140 is the form

01:02:38.920 and that together

01:02:39.960 these comprise

01:02:41.020 you know

01:02:41.520 a whole person

01:02:42.200 but

01:02:43.340 there's

01:02:44.600 there's

01:02:45.900 something else

01:02:46.620 and there's

01:02:47.920 that something

01:02:48.420 else is

01:02:49.020 spirit

01:02:49.640 sometimes

01:02:51.560 confusingly

01:02:54.080 called

01:02:54.420 grace

01:02:54.960 and

01:03:00.020 and

01:03:00.340 and

01:03:00.560 so

01:03:01.020 it can be

01:03:02.460 a little bit

01:03:02.820 confusing

01:03:03.240 because

01:03:03.620 the terminology

01:03:04.500 is subject

01:03:05.740 to change

01:03:06.520 and

01:03:07.100 they don't

01:03:07.780 always explain

01:03:08.460 themselves

01:03:08.840 very well

01:03:09.300 but

01:03:10.820 this

01:03:12.000 third

01:03:12.380 thing

01:03:12.780 the spirit

01:03:13.500 which is

01:03:14.260 received

01:03:14.600 at baptism

01:03:15.180 I believe

01:03:16.820 would be

01:03:17.160 directly

01:03:17.500 equivalent

01:03:17.900 with what

01:03:18.480 Dr.

01:03:18.820 Johnson

01:03:19.120 is

01:03:19.500 referring

01:03:20.160 to

01:03:20.380 as

01:03:20.600 noose

01:03:21.480 exactly

01:03:23.320 right

01:03:23.760 so far

01:03:26.860 so far

01:03:27.280 I'm not

01:03:27.440 hearing

01:03:27.580 a difference

01:03:28.060 right

01:03:29.000 it's

01:03:29.460 slight

01:03:29.960 differences

01:03:30.380 in

01:03:30.660 vocabulary

01:03:31.240 essentially

01:03:31.920 but

01:03:33.220 that's

01:03:33.440 a good

01:03:34.200 point

01:03:34.520 and

01:03:34.820 I'm

01:03:35.060 sorry

01:03:35.240 about

01:03:35.440 that

01:03:35.720 let me

01:03:36.420 let me

01:03:36.620 quickly

01:03:36.820 summarize

01:03:37.220 because

01:03:38.020 you're

01:03:38.340 right

01:03:38.560 when I

01:03:39.840 say the

01:03:40.120 passionate

01:03:40.380 part of

01:03:40.700 the soul

01:03:41.040 I mean

01:03:41.460 what you

01:03:41.740 mentioned

01:03:42.060 as the

01:03:42.500 animal

01:03:42.800 or the

01:03:43.340 generative

01:03:43.900 we want

01:03:45.780 food

01:03:46.100 clothing

01:03:46.380 shelter

01:03:47.460 that kind

01:03:47.840 of thing

01:03:48.120 the base

01:03:49.020 immediate

01:03:49.460 desire

01:03:49.860 but

01:03:51.900 the

01:03:52.220 rational

01:03:52.920 part

01:03:53.300 the

01:03:53.940 problem

01:03:54.180 with

01:03:54.320 rational

01:03:54.680 is

01:03:55.060 that

01:03:55.240 there

01:03:55.380 are

01:03:55.460 many

01:03:55.600 definitions

01:03:56.060 of

01:03:56.280 it

01:03:56.440 the

01:03:58.120 second

01:03:58.400 part

01:03:58.780 isn't

01:03:59.240 rational

01:03:59.700 in

01:04:00.000 the

01:04:00.320 sense

01:04:00.540 of

01:04:00.680 noose

01:04:00.980 it's

01:04:01.940 just

01:04:02.140 logical

01:04:02.600 it

01:04:03.500 what it

01:04:04.200 really

01:04:04.360 comes

01:04:04.840 down

01:04:05.080 to

01:04:05.300 is

01:04:05.560 that

01:04:05.800 it

01:04:06.040 you

01:04:06.620 know

01:04:06.700 we

01:04:06.900 do

01:04:07.060 things

01:04:07.540 and

01:04:07.900 we

01:04:08.020 can

01:04:08.140 rationalize

01:04:08.640 it

01:04:08.940 or

01:04:09.420 another

01:04:09.620 way

01:04:09.760 of

01:04:09.860 putting

01:04:10.020 it

01:04:10.200 is

01:04:10.400 that

01:04:10.680 it

01:04:11.720 works

01:04:12.560 for

01:04:12.780 the

01:04:12.900 passionate

01:04:13.200 part

01:04:13.600 of

01:04:13.680 the

01:04:13.760 soul

01:04:14.020 in

01:04:14.620 that

01:04:14.800 it

01:04:14.900 figures

01:04:18.120 you

01:04:19.800 know

01:04:19.940 but

01:04:20.340 there

01:04:20.460 has

01:04:20.680 to

01:04:20.780 be

01:04:20.900 a

01:04:21.020 third

01:04:21.180 thing

01:04:21.380 because

01:04:21.540 there's

01:04:21.700 no

01:04:21.840 salvation

01:04:22.280 with

01:04:22.480 those

01:04:22.660 two

01:04:22.840 parts

01:04:23.140 so

01:04:25.500 the

01:04:26.060 real

01:04:26.340 issue

01:04:26.860 we

01:04:27.020 have

01:04:27.200 with

01:04:27.540 terms

01:04:27.880 is

01:04:28.020 the

01:04:28.120 word

01:04:28.240 reason

01:04:28.520 so

01:04:29.700 I

01:04:30.100 use

01:04:30.300 the

01:04:30.400 word

01:04:30.520 reason

01:04:30.780 to

01:04:30.940 refer

01:04:31.200 to

01:04:31.360 just

01:04:31.540 logic

01:04:31.940 I

01:04:33.080 use

01:04:33.300 the

01:04:33.400 word

01:04:33.540 noose

01:04:33.880 only

01:04:34.360 to

01:04:34.640 differentiate

01:04:35.600 it

01:04:35.840 from

01:04:35.960 reason

01:04:36.200 just

01:04:36.440 as

01:04:36.560 you

01:04:36.680 did

01:04:36.900 which

01:04:37.460 makes

01:04:37.660 a lot

01:04:37.820 of

01:04:37.940 sense

01:04:38.180 this

01:04:38.760 comes

01:04:39.420 from

01:04:39.740 and

01:04:39.920 you

01:04:40.040 said

01:04:40.200 grace

01:04:40.560 which

01:04:41.260 is

01:04:41.520 identical

01:04:41.920 with

01:04:42.200 the

01:04:48.120 I

01:04:48.580 don't

01:04:48.700 know

01:04:48.820 if

01:04:48.940 you

01:04:49.040 wanted

01:04:49.320 me

01:04:49.560 to

01:04:49.780 give

01:04:50.120 a

01:04:50.360 non

01:04:52.660 Christian

01:04:53.140 perspective

01:04:53.740 on

01:04:54.140 the

01:04:54.380 anatomy

01:04:55.160 on

01:04:55.400 the

01:04:55.520 soul

01:04:55.760 sure

01:04:56.780 give us

01:04:57.140 your

01:04:57.260 metaphysical

01:04:57.720 answer

01:04:58.060 all right

01:04:59.500 well

01:05:00.000 at the

01:05:02.680 beginning

01:05:03.040 of course

01:05:03.680 there is

01:05:04.820 unity

01:05:05.500 and the

01:05:06.260 creation

01:05:06.680 of the

01:05:07.000 universe

01:05:07.300 is

01:05:08.000 the

01:05:08.500 division

01:05:08.880 of

01:05:09.060 unity

01:05:09.360 into

01:05:09.680 duality

01:05:10.340 the

01:05:11.440 one

01:05:11.720 becomes

01:05:12.100 two

01:05:12.400 and

01:05:13.320 so

01:05:13.660 when

01:05:14.920 one

01:05:15.340 becomes

01:05:15.680 two

01:05:15.980 you

01:05:16.280 have

01:05:16.560 an

01:05:16.780 infinite

01:05:17.160 amount

01:05:17.700 of

01:05:18.060 information

01:05:19.140 that's

01:05:19.600 created

01:05:19.980 or

01:05:21.240 patterns

01:05:22.040 of

01:05:22.560 reality

01:05:22.980 and

01:05:24.380 those

01:05:25.160 are

01:05:25.320 kind

01:05:25.520 of

01:05:25.640 not

01:05:26.040 sorted

01:05:26.600 in

01:05:26.900 any

01:05:27.180 way

01:05:27.480 it's

01:05:27.940 like

01:05:28.260 just

01:05:28.600 infinite

01:05:29.020 amounts

01:05:29.340 of

01:05:29.440 information

01:05:29.920 but

01:05:30.200 anything

01:05:30.560 that

01:05:30.960 could

01:05:31.280 exist

01:05:31.740 is

01:05:32.460 going

01:05:32.680 to

01:05:32.860 exist

01:05:33.260 in

01:05:33.480 that

01:05:33.620 context

01:05:34.280 but

01:05:34.820 there's

01:05:35.020 no

01:05:35.220 space

01:05:35.720 or

01:05:35.920 time

01:05:36.260 at

01:05:36.540 that

01:05:36.720 point

01:05:37.120 and

01:05:38.420 you

01:05:39.940 could

01:05:40.100 say

01:05:40.260 at

01:05:40.360 this

01:05:40.520 point

01:05:40.740 that

01:05:40.960 the

01:05:41.160 spirit

01:05:41.720 world

01:05:42.160 is

01:05:42.720 a

01:05:42.880 way

01:05:43.100 of

01:05:43.360 organizing

01:05:44.020 all

01:05:44.480 of

01:05:44.620 this

01:05:44.780 information

01:05:45.380 and

01:05:45.820 it's

01:05:46.040 a

01:05:46.320 way

01:05:46.660 of

01:05:46.780 organizing

01:05:47.200 it

01:05:47.460 by

01:05:47.780 association

01:05:48.580 similar

01:05:49.120 things

01:05:49.660 will

01:05:50.940 attract

01:05:51.420 each

01:05:51.660 other

01:05:51.960 and

01:05:52.340 so

01:05:53.000 consciousness

01:05:54.160 can

01:05:54.960 emerge

01:05:55.500 from

01:05:55.700 that

01:05:56.060 and

01:05:56.580 that

01:05:56.820 would

01:05:56.980 be

01:05:57.180 like

01:05:57.360 the

01:05:57.520 first

01:05:57.820 part

01:05:58.120 of

01:05:58.300 the

01:05:58.560 soul

01:05:59.260 so to

01:05:59.560 speak

01:05:59.840 the

01:06:00.700 conscious

01:06:03.260 organization

01:06:05.100 of

01:06:05.700 things

01:06:06.520 by

01:06:06.720 similarity

01:06:07.300 and

01:06:07.660 so

01:06:07.880 when

01:06:08.360 things

01:06:08.660 are

01:06:08.800 more

01:06:09.080 similar

01:06:09.440 to

01:06:09.640 each

01:06:09.800 other

01:06:10.020 they're

01:06:10.520 going

01:06:10.680 to

01:06:10.840 create

01:06:11.060 a

01:06:11.440 network

01:06:12.280 of

01:06:13.300 relationships

01:06:14.340 and

01:06:15.820 that

01:06:16.080 will

01:06:16.540 become

01:06:17.000 something

01:06:18.240 similar

01:06:18.680 to

01:06:18.940 an

01:06:19.320 individuality

01:06:20.300 and

01:06:22.740 from

01:06:23.060 that

01:06:23.360 but

01:06:23.600 at

01:06:23.840 this

01:06:24.040 point

01:06:24.260 there

01:06:24.460 is

01:06:24.620 still

01:06:24.840 no

01:06:25.060 space

01:06:25.480 or

01:06:25.640 time

01:06:26.060 and

01:06:27.100 that's

01:06:27.340 the

01:06:27.500 spirit

01:06:27.720 world

01:06:28.040 but

01:06:28.300 if

01:06:28.460 you

01:06:28.560 want

01:06:28.700 to

01:06:28.820 create

01:06:29.020 the

01:06:29.180 material

01:06:29.540 world

01:06:29.980 it's

01:06:30.560 a

01:06:30.720 different

01:06:30.980 way

01:06:31.220 of

01:06:31.360 organizing

01:06:31.800 things

01:06:32.380 kind

01:06:33.380 of

01:06:33.500 in

01:06:33.640 a

01:06:34.000 sequential

01:06:34.580 matter

01:06:35.080 rather

01:06:35.800 than

01:06:36.080 in

01:06:36.200 a

01:06:36.480 matter

01:06:36.940 of

01:06:37.100 similarity

01:06:37.540 so

01:06:38.100 it

01:06:39.220 starts

01:06:39.660 with

01:06:39.840 dimensions

01:06:40.320 one

01:06:40.960 dimension

01:06:41.380 is

01:06:41.600 going

01:06:41.720 to

01:06:41.760 be

01:06:41.900 time

01:06:42.340 then

01:06:42.640 you

01:06:42.740 put

01:06:42.880 things

01:06:43.120 in

01:06:43.260 sequence

01:06:43.760 another

01:06:44.520 is

01:06:44.740 going

01:06:44.900 to

01:06:44.980 be

01:06:45.120 like

01:06:45.340 one

01:06:45.800 dimension

01:06:46.380 of

01:06:46.560 space

01:06:46.900 the

01:06:47.140 second

01:06:47.380 dimension

01:06:47.740 of

01:06:47.940 space

01:06:48.280 so

01:06:48.920 it's

01:06:49.060 still

01:06:49.300 all

01:06:49.600 of

01:06:49.740 this

01:06:56.060 it's

01:06:56.180 still

01:06:56.360 the

01:06:56.580 same

01:06:56.900 information

01:06:57.560 fundamentally

01:06:58.520 so

01:06:58.820 the

01:06:59.100 spirit

01:07:00.820 and

01:07:01.100 the

01:07:01.220 matter

01:07:01.520 is

01:07:02.000 the

01:07:02.200 same

01:07:02.560 stuff

01:07:03.960 like

01:07:04.280 the

01:07:04.460 same

01:07:04.740 information

01:07:05.260 patterns

01:07:05.720 but

01:07:05.940 sorted

01:07:06.260 differently

01:07:06.640 so

01:07:06.940 they're

01:07:07.480 both

01:07:07.820 interrelated

01:07:08.620 in a

01:07:09.000 way

01:07:09.140 that's

01:07:09.580 impossible

01:07:10.200 to

01:07:10.440 break

01:07:10.720 but

01:07:11.620 in

01:07:11.800 another

01:07:12.060 way

01:07:12.280 they

01:07:12.440 behave

01:07:13.200 completely

01:07:13.620 differently

01:07:14.020 and

01:07:14.440 they

01:07:14.680 like

01:07:17.020 it's

01:07:17.420 impossible

01:07:18.100 to

01:07:18.460 understand

01:07:19.100 one

01:07:19.540 with

01:07:19.720 the

01:07:19.860 same

01:07:20.120 rules

01:07:20.800 as

01:07:21.260 the

01:07:21.420 other

01:07:21.680 so

01:07:22.420 the

01:07:23.380 second

01:07:23.900 part

01:07:24.240 of

01:07:24.340 the

01:07:24.480 spirit

01:07:24.820 is

01:07:25.500 that

01:07:25.760 since

01:07:26.180 every

01:07:26.640 part

01:07:27.000 of

01:07:27.260 what

01:07:27.420 we

01:07:27.580 call

01:07:27.800 the

01:07:27.940 material

01:07:28.260 world

01:07:28.720 has

01:07:30.200 its

01:07:30.580 exact

01:07:31.320 counterpart

01:07:31.860 in

01:07:32.060 the

01:07:32.200 spiritual

01:07:32.500 world

01:07:32.920 though

01:07:33.180 in a

01:07:33.620 kind

01:07:33.880 of

01:07:33.980 different

01:07:34.320 organization

01:07:35.000 you could

01:07:36.280 say

01:07:36.480 that

01:07:36.680 all

01:07:37.200 of

01:07:37.460 the

01:07:37.820 all

01:07:39.140 the

01:07:39.300 animals

01:07:39.780 all

01:07:40.420 even

01:07:40.840 like

01:07:41.160 stones

01:07:41.680 and

01:07:42.140 trees

01:07:43.000 and

01:07:43.220 stuff

01:07:43.500 have

01:07:43.980 a

01:07:44.180 spiritual

01:07:44.560 counterpart

01:07:45.020 or

01:07:45.520 animal

01:07:46.380 spirit

01:07:46.840 or

01:07:47.140 natural

01:07:48.100 spirit

01:07:48.560 so to

01:07:48.860 speak

01:07:49.100 and

01:07:50.100 that

01:07:50.680 includes

01:07:51.020 the

01:07:51.160 human

01:07:51.340 body

01:07:51.700 so

01:07:52.220 the

01:07:52.480 human

01:07:52.720 body

01:07:53.080 has

01:07:53.600 its

01:07:54.060 own

01:07:54.360 animal

01:07:54.720 spirit

01:07:55.200 according

01:07:56.760 to that

01:07:57.080 same

01:07:57.320 logic

01:07:57.700 so that

01:07:58.260 animal

01:07:58.840 spirit

01:07:59.240 would be

01:07:59.840 you could

01:08:00.580 say

01:08:00.720 the second

01:08:01.100 part of

01:08:01.520 the soul

01:08:01.940 which is

01:08:02.680 probably

01:08:04.560 equivalent

01:08:05.280 or similar

01:08:06.220 to

01:08:06.620 what you

01:08:07.740 guys said

01:08:08.200 like

01:08:08.400 the

01:08:08.560 I don't

01:08:10.060 remember how

01:08:10.440 you called

01:08:10.860 it

01:08:11.080 but it was

01:08:11.700 like the

01:08:12.000 animal

01:08:12.480 consciousness

01:08:13.500 or something

01:08:13.960 like that

01:08:14.440 passionate

01:08:15.200 or the

01:08:15.480 appetitive

01:08:15.880 yeah

01:08:16.100 right

01:08:16.580 so this

01:08:17.700 is a

01:08:18.460 product

01:08:18.880 of that

01:08:19.580 human

01:08:20.300 body

01:08:20.660 and all

01:08:21.080 of the

01:08:21.400 history

01:08:21.960 and things

01:08:22.420 like that

01:08:22.820 that

01:08:23.180 you know

01:08:23.860 the evolution

01:08:24.740 of that

01:08:25.100 species

01:08:25.580 has

01:08:26.000 if you

01:08:26.960 believe

01:08:27.200 in

01:08:27.320 evolution

01:08:27.740 that's

01:08:31.500 I would

01:08:31.860 say

01:08:32.160 the

01:08:32.460 basic

01:08:32.920 idea

01:08:33.800 let me

01:08:35.640 interrupt you

01:08:35.940 just one

01:08:36.200 second

01:08:36.440 are you

01:08:37.100 referring to

01:08:37.540 just emanations

01:08:38.220 from the

01:08:38.540 one

01:08:38.760 and as

01:08:40.700 things kind

01:08:41.140 of descend

01:08:41.560 so to speak

01:08:42.140 they get

01:08:42.980 greater and

01:08:44.140 greater

01:08:44.380 differentiated

01:08:46.020 until they

01:08:46.400 reach pure

01:08:46.900 matter

01:08:47.180 well

01:08:48.480 it's like

01:08:49.500 everything

01:08:50.000 exists at

01:08:50.620 once

01:08:51.040 like when

01:08:52.140 you're at

01:08:52.460 the level

01:08:52.780 of the

01:08:53.080 one

01:08:53.420 there is no

01:08:54.480 time or

01:08:54.840 space

01:08:55.260 and so

01:08:55.880 the division

01:08:56.420 into duality

01:08:57.320 and the

01:08:57.800 multiplicity

01:08:58.420 it's all

01:08:59.120 happened

01:08:59.500 instantly

01:09:00.120 so to speak

01:09:00.720 so this is

01:09:01.740 because we

01:09:02.960 have to

01:09:03.360 speak in

01:09:03.740 time

01:09:04.040 but we

01:09:04.600 don't mean

01:09:05.060 these didn't

01:09:05.940 happen

01:09:06.140 sequentially

01:09:06.700 but we

01:09:07.540 have to

01:09:07.740 describe it

01:09:08.140 sequentially

01:09:08.680 of course

01:09:09.600 yes

01:09:09.900 so I

01:09:11.500 learned a lot

01:09:11.880 from

01:09:12.000 so yeah

01:09:13.520 the

01:09:13.760 you could

01:09:15.680 say that

01:09:16.140 progressively

01:09:17.360 if you want

01:09:18.300 to speak

01:09:18.580 in time

01:09:19.020 you know

01:09:19.420 the one

01:09:20.240 became two

01:09:20.980 the two

01:09:21.540 became

01:09:22.040 consciousness

01:09:22.720 or spirit

01:09:23.440 and then

01:09:24.060 spirit

01:09:24.420 became

01:09:24.780 matter

01:09:25.180 but of

01:09:25.860 course

01:09:26.000 it's all

01:09:26.540 simultaneous

01:09:27.200 and all

01:09:28.300 at the

01:09:28.480 same

01:09:28.640 time

01:09:28.920 but you

01:09:29.700 could say

01:09:30.040 that

01:09:30.260 logically

01:09:31.020 speaking

01:09:31.640 matter

01:09:32.640 is

01:09:33.140 a

01:09:34.060 consequence

01:09:34.800 of

01:09:35.200 spirit

01:09:35.540 in some

01:09:36.180 sense

01:09:36.520 but they're

01:09:37.040 both

01:09:37.400 interrelated

01:09:38.500 and simultaneous

01:09:39.420 when I read

01:09:40.740 the tinyness

01:09:41.080 for the first

01:09:41.460 time

01:09:41.760 you know

01:09:42.440 you have

01:09:43.000 to read

01:09:43.300 it

01:09:43.440 sequentially

01:09:43.920 and it

01:09:44.840 took a while

01:09:45.260 to penetrate

01:09:45.700 my head

01:09:46.200 that he

01:09:47.080 doesn't mean

01:09:47.440 it that way

01:09:47.860 this is just

01:09:49.100 the structure

01:09:49.620 of the universe

01:09:50.340 that exists

01:09:50.740 all at once

01:09:51.300 yeah

01:09:51.660 they're like

01:09:52.200 logical

01:09:52.660 well I

01:09:53.500 haven't read

01:09:54.120 the

01:09:54.580 book you're

01:09:56.140 referring to

01:09:56.580 but you know

01:09:57.140 when you make

01:09:57.620 that kind of

01:09:58.140 logical thing

01:09:59.580 I mean

01:10:00.460 they're

01:10:00.840 logical steps

01:10:01.780 but not

01:10:02.140 chronological steps

01:10:03.120 you could say

01:10:03.600 exactly right

01:10:04.400 yeah

01:10:04.600 yeah but

01:10:05.180 unfortunately

01:10:05.560 we have bodies

01:10:06.340 we're in time

01:10:07.000 so it sounds

01:10:08.000 like we mean

01:10:08.700 sequences

01:10:09.380 right

01:10:09.960 of course

01:10:10.360 this is just

01:10:10.780 you know

01:10:11.000 this is just

01:10:11.400 the

01:10:11.660 neoplatonic

01:10:13.500 you know

01:10:15.440 metaphysics

01:10:15.880 of the world

01:10:16.320 probably

01:10:18.540 I mean

01:10:19.180 to be honest

01:10:20.060 I didn't

01:10:20.660 like read

01:10:21.260 the stuff

01:10:21.900 it's kind of

01:10:22.680 it's a product

01:10:23.600 of you could

01:10:24.380 say meditation

01:10:25.040 or visualization

01:10:26.060 exercises

01:10:26.840 but I'm sure

01:10:27.880 that they

01:10:28.300 would say

01:10:29.320 something similar

01:10:30.200 I mean

01:10:30.560 you can't come

01:10:31.460 to different

01:10:31.860 conclusions

01:10:32.340 if you kind

01:10:33.280 of think

01:10:34.020 about it

01:10:34.380 in the

01:10:34.840 correct way

01:10:35.640 you didn't

01:10:36.940 use the word

01:10:37.340 emanation

01:10:37.880 but I think

01:10:38.480 you implied

01:10:38.920 it

01:10:39.300 yeah I mean

01:10:40.920 I'm not sure

01:10:42.080 exactly what

01:10:43.200 emanation entails

01:10:44.280 you can kind

01:10:44.880 of visualize

01:10:45.320 it that way

01:10:46.000 but I mean

01:10:46.740 it's probably

01:10:47.380 the same thing

01:10:48.140 the last part

01:10:50.680 I would say

01:10:51.160 of the soul

01:10:51.700 if you want

01:10:52.140 to spread it

01:10:52.720 in three

01:10:53.120 is that

01:10:53.640 there has to

01:10:54.340 be a relationship

01:10:55.300 between

01:10:55.940 the consciousness

01:10:57.540 the soul

01:10:58.400 and the

01:10:59.580 body

01:11:00.220 because the

01:11:01.280 spirit

01:11:01.940 can't interact

01:11:03.420 with

01:11:04.180 the body

01:11:06.280 directly

01:11:06.840 there has

01:11:07.880 to be

01:11:08.060 some sort

01:11:08.440 of

01:11:08.600 medium

01:11:10.160 and the

01:11:11.320 medium

01:11:11.560 is going

01:11:11.860 to be

01:11:12.200 the

01:11:12.640 perceptions

01:11:13.240 the

01:11:15.000 perceptions

01:11:15.540 like

01:11:15.960 sight

01:11:16.860 and

01:11:17.260 sounds

01:11:18.180 and things

01:11:18.480 like that

01:11:18.920 they exist

01:11:19.980 in

01:11:20.580 the

01:11:21.420 physical

01:11:21.900 realm

01:11:22.340 but also

01:11:23.240 in the

01:11:24.180 spiritual

01:11:25.300 realm

01:11:25.720 so

01:11:26.080 by

01:11:27.040 associating

01:11:29.000 yourself

01:11:29.740 with the

01:11:30.520 body

01:11:30.820 you become

01:11:31.820 kind of

01:11:32.280 enamored

01:11:32.840 with those

01:11:33.800 perceptions

01:11:34.300 and that

01:11:35.860 creates

01:11:36.220 the

01:11:37.860 third

01:11:38.280 part

01:11:38.540 of the

01:11:38.760 soul

01:11:38.960 so to

01:11:39.260 speak

01:11:39.460 the

01:11:39.940 mass

01:11:42.920 of

01:11:43.280 perceptions

01:11:43.980 or

01:11:44.680 sensory

01:11:46.660 information

01:11:47.200 that you

01:11:48.260 attach

01:11:48.600 yourself

01:11:48.940 to

01:11:49.180 so

01:11:50.660 I would

01:11:51.280 say

01:11:51.440 that

01:11:51.580 those

01:11:51.780 are

01:11:51.900 the

01:11:52.060 three

01:11:52.420 main

01:11:53.040 parts

01:11:53.440 but

01:11:54.320 other

01:11:54.760 parts

01:11:55.420 you could

01:11:56.380 for sure

01:11:57.380 break down

01:11:58.240 any of

01:11:58.860 those parts

01:11:59.300 into smaller

01:11:59.960 subcategories

01:12:00.840 if you

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01:12:03.020 think

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01:12:04.700 this

01:12:05.180 whole

01:12:05.480 thing

01:12:05.780 was not

01:12:06.100 necessarily

01:12:06.620 necessary

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01:12:08.740 said

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01:12:09.440 understand

01:12:09.960 the

01:12:10.640 structure

01:12:12.140 of the

01:12:12.400 soul

01:12:12.640 but I

01:12:13.160 think

01:12:13.260 it's

01:12:13.440 interesting

01:12:13.840 when we're

01:12:14.760 going to

01:12:14.900 get into

01:12:15.180 demons

01:12:15.580 to show

01:12:16.580 how

01:12:17.000 maybe

01:12:17.400 our

01:12:17.700 ideas

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01:12:19.360 different

01:12:19.660 on that

01:12:20.120 front

01:12:20.460 because

01:12:21.900 I

01:12:22.200 imagine

01:12:22.680 that the

01:12:23.020 Christian

01:12:23.320 version

01:12:23.680 will be

01:12:24.060 that

01:12:24.380 demons

01:12:25.340 are

01:12:25.700 fallen

01:12:26.100 angels

01:12:26.540 so to

01:12:26.860 speak

01:12:27.120 whereas

01:12:27.620 I would

01:12:28.100 say

01:12:28.540 something

01:12:28.840 different

01:12:29.260 but maybe

01:12:30.020 those things

01:12:30.500 are not

01:12:30.760 so different

01:12:31.260 after all

01:12:31.820 yes

01:12:33.780 but this

01:12:34.640 is something

01:12:34.980 that we're

01:12:35.440 actually going

01:12:35.980 to discuss

01:12:36.500 after we get

01:12:37.220 back from

01:12:37.640 the break

01:12:38.100 because we've

01:12:38.700 come to the

01:12:39.080 end of our

01:12:39.420 first segment

01:12:39.860 of the show

01:12:40.400 so to

01:12:42.760 our listeners

01:12:43.280 please stay

01:12:44.480 tuned

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01:20:40.100 Welcome back to part two of Mysterium Fasci's episode 13, Spiritual Warfare.

01:20:46.100 Before the break, we discussed the anatomy of the soul,

01:20:50.100 spiritual warfare against men.

01:20:52.100 We began to talk a little bit about fighting against spirits,

01:20:56.100 but now we're going to continue that discussion and get into the main chunk of the segment itself.

01:21:02.100 So I thought the best way to start this would be to talk about how demons came to exist.

01:21:10.100 I'm only going to address this from a Christian metaphysical point of view,

01:21:16.100 so you'll just have to deal with it if you disagree with me.

01:21:19.100 So the tradition would essentially say that before God created the physical universe,

01:21:26.100 he did create life.

01:21:28.100 He created spiritual beings, spirits.

01:21:31.100 These are what we call angels or angelic spirits.

01:21:35.100 And so these are creatures made entirely of non-physical material.

01:21:47.100 And God, just like how he gave us free will, he gave these spirits free will.

01:21:53.100 The nature of spiritual realm is that there is no time and there is no place.

01:21:58.100 Creatures within it do not move from one moment to another or one place to another,

01:22:02.100 making decisions in the same dynamic fashion that we do here.

01:22:06.100 But rather they exist in a more static,

01:22:09.100 well, static is perhaps not the right word,

01:22:11.100 but a more eternal, constant mode of living.

01:22:16.100 And so the tradition would say that God gave these spirits a decision between essentially him and themselves.

01:22:27.100 The kind of romanticized version is that God revealed to the angelic host,

01:22:33.100 the sons of God, as they're called in scripture,

01:22:38.100 that the second person of the Holy Trinity, the Logos, would become incarnate as a man.

01:22:44.100 And furthermore, that he would be born of a woman, a physical woman of the Virgin Mary.

01:22:51.100 And so the lore goes that the highest of all of the angels,

01:22:56.100 Lucifer, the shining one, the lightbringer, effervescent, the peacock angel,

01:23:02.100 the most luminous and greatest of all the spirits, rebelled him.

01:23:08.100 He said that he would not serve material, he would not serve a material god,

01:23:13.100 and he would not serve a material woman in the form of the Virgin Mary who is Queen of Heaven.

01:23:19.100 And the story goes, and we see this in the Book of Revelation,

01:23:22.100 that the dragon, Satan convinced one third of the angels in Heaven,

01:23:29.100 mostly from the lower ranks, to also rebel against God,

01:23:32.100 and to defy the natural order, defy the Logos.

01:23:36.100 The archangel Michael, at this point, led the war in Heaven of the angels who remained faithful to God,

01:23:47.100 who remained faithful to their nature.

01:23:49.100 The name Michael, from the Hebrew Mikael, means who is like God.

01:23:54.100 Traditionally this is rendered as a battle cry.

01:23:57.100 This is the war cry of the angelic forces in Heaven against those who would not serve.

01:24:02.100 Whom is like God?

01:24:04.100 Whom has the ability to fashion and create the universe and its laws but God?

01:24:10.100 Who can set themselves up higher than the Most High?

01:24:14.100 No one.

01:24:16.100 And so to rebel against him is death.

01:24:19.100 The teaching is then that the demons were defeated and fell from Heaven.

01:24:26.100 And that's how they came to be.

01:24:30.100 Now, probably there are flaws in the narrative I've just recounted,

01:24:33.100 so I'll open that up to people who's probably a little bit more than me.

01:24:36.100 Dr. Johnson and Dr. Savage, please go ahead.

01:24:41.100 If there's any errors or do you think you could add anything to the creation?

01:24:46.100 One thing I think it's important to add is that there is an element of free choice.

01:24:52.100 The story that you related, it makes it rational.

01:24:56.100 It has to be because angels had to make a decision.

01:25:01.100 Now, if that's the case, that means that God could not have totally revealed himself at the time.

01:25:07.100 Because if that were the case, there would be no more choice.

01:25:11.100 Choice only exists in uncertainty.

01:25:13.100 But if you're bathed in grace, you couldn't have any uncertainty.

01:25:18.100 God is not going to force any rational or immaterial thing to worship him.

01:25:24.100 That's absurd.

01:25:26.100 It's against our dignity.

01:25:27.100 So he had to have in some way hid himself such that the angels could actually make a choice.

01:25:34.100 Everybody who comes to him and is bathed in that kind of life that we don't even understand, what heaven is,

01:25:43.100 it's there because they have made a choice, that they have shown virtue in some sense.

01:25:47.100 So God could not have totally revealed himself to the angels at that point in human history.

01:25:51.100 Yeah, that's a good caveat.

01:25:56.100 Doc, did you want to add something?

01:25:58.100 Yeah, that's, that's, we just wanted to reinforce that, of course.

01:26:04.100 There, there's, there's an element of the traditional story.

01:26:11.100 And then there's another element of the traditional explanation of the traditional story.

01:26:15.100 And then there's an element of, of what amounts to rank speculation on our part.

01:26:21.100 But you, you've given the, the, the basic outline correctly, as far as I know.

01:26:28.100 And, of course, we, you know, it is absolutely correct to say that in the process of creating the angels in the first place,

01:26:37.100 there must have been some sort of separation between the glory of God and the rest of the universe.

01:26:42.100 Otherwise, as Dr. Johnson correctly points out, how could anyone have chosen otherwise?

01:26:49.100 I think there's a, there's another point that I've seen referred to that you don't find a lot in traditional Western Catholic metaphysics or theology.

01:27:03.100 But, um, it's a point that I find that quite intriguing that the element of choice, uh, that, that, uh, that angels, uh, have, uh, necessitates that they, um, be able to change in some way.

01:27:20.100 And that, that this change would require that they have some, some sort of matter as a component of their being.

01:27:27.100 Now, obviously it wouldn't be matter as, as, as we're most familiar with it, uh, matter as you or I have.

01:27:33.100 Uh, it would have to be something else, some sort of subtle matter or spiritual matter.

01:27:39.100 Uh, but it is matter in some way.

01:27:41.100 Uh, you know, that's a point.

01:27:44.100 Uh, it's an excellent point because Sarah from Rose was the one who alerted me to this concept.

01:27:49.100 When we talk about matter and spirit, we're really using Cartesian terms.

01:27:53.100 And what father Sarah from told told me it was said in his writings.

01:27:58.100 And then I find it again in Gregory of Nyssa and Athanasius is that there are many gradients in between.

01:28:04.100 These aren't hermetically sealed off category.

01:28:07.100 And when father Sarah from defying the demons, he actually refers to these gradients quite a bit.

01:28:13.100 Um, that there are, there is a lot of, of leeway between pure matter and pure spirit.

01:28:19.100 In fact, all of our metaphysics is based on the idea that we can't even conceive of pure matter.

01:28:25.100 As we think about it, it has to be formed into something.

01:28:28.100 Uh, so these things in their pure form are, are impossible.

01:28:33.100 Um, they're abstractions essentially.

01:28:35.100 Exactly right.

01:28:36.100 Um, and we only understand them, um, from abstracting from things we see.

01:28:40.100 But, um, the demons, uh, are in this, in this middle, middle place.

01:28:45.100 Uh, and, and I've, I've read way too many.

01:28:48.100 Many, even Malachi Martin, even, you know, uh, exorcists who have all said that demons are very different from one another. 1.00

01:28:53.100 Some are very stupid and crude. 1.00

01:28:55.100 Some are very intelligent. 1.00

01:28:56.100 And there seems to be a, a, a concept that after a while, matter becomes a state of mind.

01:29:01.100 That they are, uh, they become angry and passionate.

01:29:05.100 And over the centuries in human history, um, demons have become more and more material, so to speak.

01:29:10.100 Um, that material isn't just a, uh, an ontological reality.

01:29:14.100 It's a mental one, too.

01:29:18.100 That makes, uh, that makes a lot of sense.

01:29:20.100 And that also kind of ties into some of the more, um, shall we say, um, uh, uh, uh, extraneous literature.

01:29:31.100 Uh, what's the word I'm looking for?

01:29:32.100 Apocryphal literature.

01:29:33.100 Uh, where it starts talking about, uh, the book of Enoch.

01:29:36.100 Yes.

01:29:37.100 Yes, that would, uh, you know, that's a perfect question.

01:29:41.100 How could immaterial beings inseminate the children, the women of men in Genesis, and produce 1.00

01:29:47.100 a lot of offspring?

01:29:48.100 Obviously, they'd be impossible, so they must have some material component to them.

01:29:53.100 Well, yeah, and, and, and I think that, that, that points us back to the, the, as, as Dr.

01:29:59.100 Johnson points out, the error of, uh, a Cartesian thinking.

01:30:02.100 That there is some, this inseparable gulf between, quote, unquote, purely material, prime material,

01:30:09.100 and, quote, unquote, you know, pure, pure spiritual realities.

01:30:13.100 That these, these realities are, are coterminous.

01:30:17.100 They, they exist simultaneously and interpenetrate each other.

01:30:21.100 You know, there, there is no separating the spiritual from the physical.

01:30:26.100 Right.

01:30:28.100 I think that's accurate.

01:30:29.100 So that's, that's where, um, that's where these demons come from.

01:30:34.100 One of the, one of the, even if you're not a Christian, I think that it's always conspicuous 0.99

01:30:38.100 is to look at the universal conceptions in, across human civilization.

01:30:45.100 Uh, evil spirits are a universal reality.

01:30:49.100 I cannot think of one civilization that did not have some sort of conception of,

01:30:55.100 not only a spiritual world, but of, there were malicious spirits that interacted with them.

01:31:02.100 Uh, absolutely.

01:31:03.100 Absolutely.

01:31:04.100 And, um, just to, to continue to kind of highlight the, the points of, points of convergence

01:31:10.100 between the, the, um, pre-Christian or, or, or so-called pagan perspective and the traditional

01:31:16.100 Christian perspective.

01:31:17.100 You know, if, if, if we say that, um, angel is a class of being, that implies a hierarchy from

01:31:25.100 the most high, you know, uh, seraphim, cherubim, uh, thrones, powers, and dominions that the,

01:31:32.100 the, the, the, the extreme formal beings close to the mind of God.

01:31:37.100 Well, there's also a, a, a wide chain, a long chain, excuse me, uh, of, of lesser beings 1.00

01:31:44.100 who are also of the type angel, uh, that are responsible for, for, uh, uh, the, the order

01:31:51.100 of the universe.

01:31:52.100 Everything has its angel in the tradition, right?

01:31:54.100 So in the same way that, uh, a, a, a pre-Christian, uh, heathen might speak of a spirit of, of a

01:32:01.100 city or a spirit of a nation, a spirit of a mountain, a spirit of a river.

01:32:04.100 Well, you know, we would say that there's, you know, yeah, there is a spirit.

01:32:09.100 It's called an angel.

01:32:10.100 You know, there's an angel of, of our nation, an angel of our city, an angel of that mountain,

01:32:15.100 you know, and, and, and, and, and our own angels, the guardian angels, of course.

01:32:20.100 And, uh, given the, uh, rebellion of a certain subset of, of these things, sometimes you will

01:32:27.100 find a person or a place, uh, or a group of people or what have you that is dominated by

01:32:34.100 by a, um, malign angel, what we would call a demon.

01:32:43.100 The problem that I've had in dealing with, um, non-Christians in this respect is that the 1.00

01:32:48.100 real issue, the real gulf is personality.

01:32:51.100 It seems that, that the modern mentality, the positivist mentality defines myth as referring

01:32:56.100 to anything, any force in the world that has a personality.

01:33:00.100 When it's abstract and, and treated, you know, as a concept, it's okay.

01:33:06.100 And they have no problem with it.

01:33:07.100 The minute you add a will to it, it becomes nonsense.

01:33:11.100 Um, angels exist in the same plane that forms do.

01:33:15.100 Uh, this is why they really don't learn.

01:33:17.100 They have no empirical, uh, they don't have to collect data.

01:33:20.100 You know, they're, they're, they're immaterial sufficiently where they can simply, uh, comprehend

01:33:25.100 a form or an archetype just in and of itself or different than we would, we would perceive

01:33:30.100 an object.

01:33:31.100 Uh, the problem is that, you know, a modernist may read Plato and like it and get a lot out

01:33:36.100 of it.

01:33:37.100 Um, but when we talk about the exact same concepts just with a personality, all of a sudden we're

01:33:42.100 superstitious.

01:33:43.100 That seems to be the big gulf.

01:33:45.100 Yeah, certainly.

01:33:50.100 Um, so I think that we've kind of got a good grip on, on what demons are and where they

01:33:57.100 come from.

01:33:58.100 So as we've said, you know, there's a, there's a multitude of the heavenly hosts.

01:34:01.100 I mean, there are angels that, um, have dominion, spiritual dominion over the entirety of the

01:34:08.100 created universe.

01:34:09.100 They act at, I mean, angel, it basically translates, it means agent.

01:34:14.100 Okay.

01:34:15.100 From, uh, it's from the Greek, which means messenger, but in Hebrew it's closer to agent.

01:34:21.100 Okay.

01:34:22.100 Uh, so the, these, just as there's a multitude of agents which, uh, have dominion over, um,

01:34:31.100 all of the, the created material world, the spiritual world, you know, so too there are,

01:34:37.100 uh, demons, although less numerous, which, um, proliferate.

01:34:43.100 They're all over the place.

01:34:44.100 I mean, I think that there was an exorcist to priest, you know, he said, you know, they're

01:34:48.100 not demons under every rock, but under every other rock.

01:34:53.100 The, the idea is that as we go through our daily lives, we're, we're all, all subject

01:35:00.100 to what's called, um, I guess you could say ordinary demonic influence.

01:35:04.100 We interact with these spirits every day.

01:35:07.100 These spirits, they operate usually through images and through suggestion.

01:35:11.100 And because we have free will, they are not able to, except in extraordinary cases, could

01:35:17.100 just dominate us, take over our body and use us for their own purposes. 0.83

01:35:20.100 They have to negotiate with us.

01:35:22.100 They have to make suggestions.

01:35:23.100 They have to make proposals.

01:35:24.100 They have to lure us into doing their bidding through temptation.

01:35:28.100 Okay.

01:35:29.100 You know, we traditionally, it would be said that temptation to sin comes from the world,

01:35:34.100 the flesh and the devil, right?

01:35:36.100 Uh, usually these things like to work in combination.

01:35:39.100 There's always, there's usually a congruency between these two, three factors.

01:35:44.100 Okay.

01:35:45.100 So the goal of these angels is they want to gain control over us by having us sin.

01:35:51.100 When we sin, when we go against the cosmic order, uh, we, we, by definition, give them power.

01:35:58.100 Okay.

01:35:59.100 We, we not only denature ourselves, we move ourselves further away from that freedom and autonomy

01:36:05.100 that we described later on, but the things that we have dominion over move further out of

01:36:10.100 further out of that purvey of the things that we have authority over become misaligned with

01:36:16.100 the cosmic order.

01:36:17.100 This is why when Adam committed original sin, we still bear the false for it because God 0.96

01:36:22.100 believes in corporate personality and he had dominion over Eve and over his ancestors forever.

01:36:27.100 And by his sin, he created a rupture.

01:36:30.100 He removed us in who we are, our essence from the cosmic order and introduced concupiscence

01:36:36.100 to the world and inclination to chaos or sinfulness.

01:36:39.100 Now, these demons, they interact with us, as I said, every single day of our lives.

01:36:50.100 Any suggestions to us?

01:36:53.100 Well, right off the bat, um, I know, um, the church and, and I, I'm, I'm, I'm certain I've

01:36:59.100 heard this in the liturgy, but I know that the church at least talks about the spirit of anger,

01:37:04.100 the spirit of, um, uh, of, of lust, the spirit of, uh, of any number of, uh, of, uh, desires

01:37:13.100 and, and, and sins.

01:37:14.100 And, and, and it, you know, uh, I think most people who go to church would hear that and,

01:37:20.100 and, and, and think of that as a sort of, take that metaphorically as a sort of poetry,

01:37:25.100 but we're talking about a really, a real thing here.

01:37:28.100 You know, there are temptations that come external to yourself.

01:37:33.100 Yes.

01:37:34.100 Um, so the, the, uh, you know, Catholic exorcists would actually categorize demons, um, by the

01:37:42.100 seven deadly sins.

01:37:43.100 They would say that relating to the fall of each of the angelic spirits, each of them had,

01:37:48.100 um, erred in an area particular to themselves.

01:37:53.100 So like anger or the gluttony or pride, right?

01:37:57.100 Lucifer is like archetypical example of pride, right?

01:38:02.100 And so the, um, you know, that, that's the categorization.

01:38:05.100 I'm not certain what the patristics or the orthodox texts say on this, uh, Dr.

01:38:10.100 Johnson, if you care to interject.

01:38:11.100 Yeah.

01:38:12.100 Let me try to systematize it just for a little bit.

01:38:14.100 I said in the first hour that demons don't have much power.

01:38:17.100 Um, because the only way they rule is as you said, suggestion or temptation.

01:38:24.100 I said, image or fantasy, the exact same thing.

01:38:27.100 Um, we see a beautiful woman and you know what we start thinking about.

01:38:31.100 Uh, we are struggling financially and we're fantasizing what it would be like, uh, to not

01:38:36.100 have these problems and to get whatever we want.

01:38:38.100 We have this image.

01:38:40.100 Um, this is what demons do.

01:38:42.100 They show us sort of a movie screen.

01:38:44.100 It corresponds to the shadows and Plato's wall, uh, in the cave.

01:38:48.100 Um, none of them are actually real, but they're plausible enough that if we're really struggling or suffering, uh, we take them as real.

01:38:57.100 You know, even when we achieve some of these things, we realize it's not nearly as good as we thought.

01:39:02.100 And we forget how much we lose in gaining those things.

01:39:05.100 And when we possess those things, a whole bunch of new problems show up.

01:39:10.100 But the fantasy that's shown to us, uh, that demons either create themselves or simply add to, um, are, are lies.

01:39:18.100 There's a big difference.

01:39:19.100 So an image is not the same thing as our perception of an object.

01:39:22.100 An object might actually be there.

01:39:24.100 Uh, how we interpret and use those perceptions is something that demons know how to do.

01:39:30.100 The central issue is that they, they know human beings enough that they know how to, um, get in the cracks of our weaknesses.

01:39:37.100 Whatever our dominant passion happens to be, uh, they'll know how to, how to manipulate it.

01:39:42.100 Uh, you know, if there are entities below us, like, you know, animals, you know, and plants.

01:39:47.100 Well, it stands to reason there's entities above us.

01:39:50.100 Um, so the metaphysical and ontological, uh, payoff here is the distinction between something that's real, that we can perceive, we know it's true, and we have a concept about it, we study it on the one hand, and an image that's generated in our minds on the other hand.

01:40:07.100 Um, one is true and the other is false.

01:40:11.100 If you're doing something according to truth, you can't possibly sin.

01:40:14.100 Sin comes into existence when we follow these images as if they're, they're actually, actually there.

01:40:20.100 And they're never satisfactory.

01:40:21.100 You ever wonder why Rockefellers don't just retire and go buy an island somewhere? 1.00

01:40:25.100 No one's ever satisfied, no matter how much money or how much power you get.

01:40:29.100 Um, and, and these images, I think, is what we really mean by temptation.

01:40:33.100 Now, as far as the human psyche is concerned, you spend your life, you know, believing this to be real, and now we have it institutionalized in television and movies and stuff like that, and God knows what the chips and things like this are going to do in the future.

01:40:47.100 It changes your whole psyche.

01:40:49.100 It doesn't take long before you become completely tarned.

01:40:53.100 And even whatever spiritual element you may have been born with becomes effaced.

01:40:58.100 And it may even be the case that some people really simply just die like an animal would die.

01:41:03.100 Not all human beings, of course, but those that are so carnal that refer to any kind of spiritual free will is outrageous.

01:41:11.100 We know people like this.

01:41:13.100 How can these people be judged after a while?

01:41:15.100 On what, on what foundation?

01:41:16.100 They wouldn't even know what you're talking about at a certain level.

01:41:19.100 So, um, you know, how we act over time when it hardens into a habit of passion completely takes us over.

01:41:27.100 It possesses us in such a way that it radically changes who we are.

01:41:30.100 And you have a guy like George Soros.

01:41:32.100 He looks at people in America.

01:41:33.100 He doesn't see individuals with souls and stories.

01:41:36.100 He sees human capital.

01:41:38.100 He sees objects to manipulate.

01:41:41.100 In other words, he's not seeing the same thing we do.

01:41:44.100 His world is completely different.

01:41:45.100 He doesn't live in the same world that we do.

01:41:47.100 But this is what happens when slowly but surely you become possessed by these images to the point where it even takes physical properties in the way you look and how you behave.

01:41:58.100 Now, the theological payoff to all of this is that this is what happens when an Orthodox man dies. 0.82

01:42:07.100 Heaven and hell are the same place.

01:42:08.100 And this is this is a patristic idea.

01:42:11.100 And the difference between the two things is how the human body, how the human psyche, I should say, responds to grace.

01:42:18.100 Grace is nothing more than God's presence, his power, his light, you know, energy.

01:42:23.100 It's all one in the same concept we're talking about here.

01:42:26.100 And, you know, we can't talk about it scientifically because we don't we can't, you know, it's not that kind of an object.

01:42:32.100 But all of the words actually are the same thing.

01:42:35.100 When we're bathed in that, we're not all going to react the same way.

01:42:39.100 Some of us who have been preparing ourselves for our whole lives are going to see it as a final completion of everything that we do.

01:42:47.100 On the other hand, George Soros of the world with that type of person is going to be absolutely it's going to be like it's going to be like taking someone who's freezing to death and throwing them to a pot of hot water.

01:42:59.100 They're going to die of shock right there.

01:43:02.100 Or having someone that's been starving for years and giving them a hamburger. 1.00

01:43:05.100 You could kill them that way. 0.98

01:43:08.100 And this is a kind of a similar idea when they're bathed in grace, they're going to be tortured. 0.99

01:43:13.100 And that's what the patristic idea of heaven and hell and how that's connected to how we live on Earth.

01:43:18.100 And that's connected with how demons attempt to influence us.

01:43:22.100 They're so weak, though, that especially if we know of their existence, that the only power that they could possibly have against us is showing us those pictures, those little movies we play in our head that are never real and never true.

01:43:34.100 Just to add on to that a little bit, when you say, of course, us, you're, of course, referring to baptized initiates into the Christian mysteries.

01:43:49.100 The terrible tragedy of modernity is how many people should be baptized and are not or who were baptized but have fallen away or were never, never confirmed in the spirit or what's the orthodox?

01:44:08.100 Chrismation. 0.93

01:44:09.100 Chrismation, never chrismated in the spirit and so on.

01:44:13.100 And so on.

01:44:14.100 And also, when we say that the entire society is ordered to the demonic, I mean, just think of what that means.

01:44:33.100 I mean, our entire society is empowering these entities.

01:44:38.100 Just think of the difference between a medieval society and what we have now.

01:44:44.100 A medieval society was entirely ordered every day around the liturgy, around the work of the people, around routine prayer.

01:44:57.100 And I would make the argument, I've never seen this explicated anywhere that I'm aware of, but my personal view of reading of this or view of this, my intuition on this is that the prayers of the people, even the simple farmer telling his beads and saying a simple Jesus prayer or hail Mary or what have you in the fields,

01:45:25.740 exerts a sort of spiritual pressure, a spiritual wind, if you will, that can sacralize a given social or physical space and keep these things at bay.

01:45:42.100 As our societies have secularized, we become more and more and more subject to these influences.

01:45:50.800 I mean, and look at the primary form of entertainment for us.

01:45:54.840 I mean, we've gone from theater to movies to televisions in every house.

01:46:00.220 And if demons are influencing us by images, you know, now we have demonically influenced people giving us images all the time.

01:46:12.800 That's what I meant by saying it was institutionalized.

01:46:14.920 Yeah, and it's actually, anybody who's interested in this particular aspect, I can go check out Jay Dyer.

01:46:22.820 He's an orthodox man, very good, well-renowned at physics.

01:46:25.580 I know you've been on his program, Dr. Johnson.

01:46:27.480 I'm a big fan of his, yeah.

01:46:28.800 I've been listening to you.

01:46:29.720 I've been on a big Jay Dyer kid recently.

01:46:31.280 Hopefully we can get him on the podcast.

01:46:32.740 That'd just be great.

01:46:33.860 But, so yeah, so this is the way these demons try to control us, is they lie to us.

01:46:40.280 And a lie is not just, you know, a logical deception.

01:46:43.620 It's not 2 plus 2 equals 5.

01:46:45.620 I mean, a lie is any view of reality that's wrong.

01:46:50.520 It deviates from the way it actually is, from the cosmic order.

01:46:54.040 I mean, if you have, you know, if you actually believe that there is, you know, truth in the universe, and more than that, that there's objective truth.

01:47:01.160 That there's, like, one way that the universe is, that it's structured, that it works, that it's built.

01:47:07.520 Then, of course, anything that takes us further away from this one truth, from this reality, would give the person who makes that suggestion an enormous amount of power over us.

01:47:17.660 An enormous amount of power.

01:47:19.200 It would make us their slaves.

01:47:21.980 And so that's exactly what these demons attempt to do.

01:47:23.760 They attempt to enslave us into sin by providing these illusory suggestions, these passions.

01:47:32.500 And so they do this through images, but it's also suggested that demons have a certain amount of power over the body.

01:47:39.840 They can induce lust, for instance.

01:47:44.640 Physically, you know, they can arouse anger.

01:47:48.240 Tiredness.

01:47:49.260 Sadness.

01:47:50.100 The emotions.

01:47:50.740 These animals, this animal side of us, they have a certain command and authority.

01:47:55.480 Because of the fall from grace, our body is subject to death and to passion.

01:48:00.600 And so we're not completely in control of it.

01:48:03.000 And that's where the battle fundamentally lies, both with spirits, but it starts in ourselves, and that's what we're going to get to with asceticism.

01:48:09.280 That's why fasting and prayer are super important.

01:48:11.340 It's because we are trying to build up this discipline over the body so that demons can't use it as a vector of control for us, that we become sovereign and free within our own selves.

01:48:22.320 Well, you know, the problem that we struggle with is very personal.

01:48:28.360 You know, I've been doing this from an orthodox point of view for 20 years as a Roman Catholic before that.

01:48:34.020 I saturate myself in this, you know, 16 hours a day, every day since I was 17, whether it be, you know, theological, historical, or philosophical.

01:48:45.780 25 years later, but if one girl in a short skirt walks by, out the window it goes, and I become Larry Flint.

01:48:52.020 And you know what, even if I, even if I somehow, by some miracle of God, I control myself, I hate myself afterward.

01:49:02.400 And we've all done this before.

01:49:04.640 This is not just me, obviously.

01:49:07.140 You know, heterosexual men, we're living in an age where women are dressing in such a way exactly to get that reaction. 0.97

01:49:13.680 Now, why do I do this?

01:49:14.780 Why is that 25 years' worth of work goes out the window like it never happened, and all she has to do is exist. 0.99

01:49:20.940 And that's the image.

01:49:22.960 That we're habituated to see.

01:49:25.400 By the way, it never quite turns out to be what we think it is.

01:49:27.900 But it's that image.

01:49:29.960 Now, what makes it far worse for us now than church fathers is that, yeah, but the guy down the street then took my place.

01:49:38.980 And it's doing her right now.

01:49:40.800 So now, you know, oh, isn't this wonderful?

01:49:43.180 How possibly could, you know, praying a Jesus prayer at home compare to, you know, a three-way with two women, you know, in my living room? 0.92

01:49:55.440 How could that possibly win?

01:49:56.960 It's a miracle that I'm able to even, you know, if those two things were offered to me.

01:50:03.540 Oh, my God.

01:50:04.440 You know, I'd live my life in regret if I didn't do it.

01:50:07.440 You know, and so, but it makes it worse when we're surrounded by people who are doing it.

01:50:11.780 And in some of our cases seem to be a lot happier than we are.

01:50:15.980 Now, the knowledge of the truth or the falsehood of the matter, you know, is abstract and immediate.

01:50:21.860 The desire that's manipulated in us is immediate.

01:50:24.380 And so we start on the tail end of this, you know, we have everything against us.

01:50:32.560 And I just wonder if church fathers were living today, given how the regime can control those psychological aspects of men and women, I guess, on an hourly basis, what they would say.

01:50:45.020 You know, back then, these things didn't exist.

01:50:48.320 You know, the Roman Stoic was infinitely superior to anything that America has produced, including Christians. 1.00

01:50:54.380 You know, we're alcoholics being forced to work in a bar, surrounded by people telling us that alcoholism doesn't exist and offers drinks every two minutes.

01:51:04.520 You know, yeah, we're going to, you know, it's a miracle if we can go ten minutes without taking a drink.

01:51:10.380 So we say the institutionalization of these images, it's not just that they control media and movies and everything else.

01:51:17.440 Because if those things were destroyed tomorrow, we could replay all of it in our heads for the rest of our lives.

01:51:25.840 So it becomes a part of who we are, and this is what the battle is.

01:51:29.820 And the worst part is if we win, from an earthly point of view, when we win and progress in virtue, we're angry, at least in my case, very angry.

01:51:37.340 There are so many other people around me who are having a ball.

01:51:39.400 And I'm in here, you know, reading St. John of Damascus.

01:51:43.240 How can they possibly compare?

01:51:45.280 And this is a battle.

01:51:46.420 This is – and demons can – they know enough about psychology to be able to manipulate that very deep – and we're talking about the psyche.

01:51:53.660 We're talking about self-esteem.

01:51:54.680 We're talking about manhood.

01:51:55.640 We're talking about the most intimate possible things that they know how to manipulate.

01:51:58.880 And now we live in a regime that knows how to provoke every aspect of these weaknesses and insecurities.

01:52:06.340 And that's the most practical axis and what makes our lives so difficult.

01:52:15.540 Precisely.

01:52:16.800 So we've been describing ordinary demonic influence, like these things that we're talking about, this battle of – this happens every single day.

01:52:23.140 We run into these things.

01:52:24.020 Everybody I'm certainly listening has had an experience where, you know, they've been doing something and just out of nowhere, something foul and a break just popped into their head.

01:52:34.540 You know, they've – you know, could do whatever.

01:52:38.780 Sexual, violent, evil, it doesn't matter. 0.99

01:52:42.740 Everybody's had this.

01:52:43.840 Everybody I've talked to without fail has described experiences like this.

01:52:46.980 You know, some people have it with more frequency.

01:52:48.720 Some people have it with less frequency.

01:52:49.780 There are also different ways in which – there are different levels of demonic influence.

01:52:57.160 So demons can go from simple, usual influence to what's called oppression.

01:53:04.500 This is a Catholic exorcist – these are Catholic exorcist categories, but they're fairly useful because they come from experience.

01:53:09.980 So demonic oppression is when an individual is under a state where, you know, literally they have a feeling – they are constantly assaulted with these images, with these temptations.

01:53:22.800 Their will is constantly under attack by outside forces who seek to subvert and subdue them, trying to ensnare them and bring them under their will.

01:53:32.580 And so it feels as if there was a weight which is crushing you.

01:53:38.260 You can't function.

01:53:40.140 You can't think.

01:53:41.820 You can't do anything.

01:53:43.760 It's very difficult even to pray because these things get twisted.

01:53:47.880 I speak from experience.

01:53:50.680 So this is another level of intensity.

01:53:54.320 It's more rare.

01:53:56.940 Typically speaking, these issues come because you've personally opened yourself up to this sort of influence with some of your actions.

01:54:05.820 You've committed a particularly egregious act or you're living in a place that's particularly tainted or foul or actually diametrically the opposite.

01:54:15.740 You're somebody that they really don't like.

01:54:17.200 They hate you a lot, okay?

01:54:21.020 So there's not a universal reason why people might run into these problems.

01:54:27.860 Would anybody else like to comment on this or do shooting you out of possession?

01:54:31.760 Well, just to add that we have many, many, many, a great many accounts from the saints that the more you have decided to make asceticism your spiritual path,

01:54:46.180 the more you will attract the attention of these things.

01:54:51.080 And that struggle can grow to epic proportions and become essentially the core of your ascetic practice.

01:55:02.460 Yeah, why are demons going to attack the average American?

01:55:05.780 That would be a big waste of effort.

01:55:08.120 You know, they're already controlled and easy to control.

01:55:12.620 You know, my problem is what do you do with these people in terms of judgment?

01:55:16.640 You see, the notion of oppression or possession of these things is that it just becomes a habit.

01:55:21.880 You don't know any better, and you give in, you give in, you give in, and before you know it, it's a part of your very person.

01:55:26.680 It's a hardwired reality rather than just a mistake that you made.

01:55:29.840 You know, you take your next-door neighbor who's, you know, been living this bohemian life this whole life and start talking about John Damascus with him.

01:55:38.620 What kind of reaction are you going to get?

01:55:40.500 But if that's the case, then how would these people judge?

01:55:44.220 And is it really their fault, especially given if you're born in the 70s or 80s?

01:55:50.320 You're already hardwired into this lifetime before you even know what planet you're on.

01:55:54.540 You know, my parents weren't religious.

01:55:55.420 You know, so we automatically start with – that's why I say we're like alcoholics being forced to work in a bar.

01:56:01.720 That's the perfect metaphor of what we're doing.

01:56:03.540 We're already messed up, and now we're surrounded by this stuff, and everyone's telling us it's okay.

01:56:08.640 So, you know, when we fall, this is not – we're not going to burn for that.

01:56:13.320 You know, if God doesn't – you know, Christ became man partially because he could be able to say, now I know what this stuff is like.

01:56:19.640 He did feel temptation, just didn't act on it.

01:56:22.240 And this is how we know that God fully understands, and it is true that the canons of, you know, the patristic era, if they were alive today, I think they would say some very, very different things.

01:56:33.920 And that's why, you know, when the patristic writers talk about the end times, they say, you know, it will be a miracle if these guys didn't even keep the facts.

01:56:41.080 And they still will be the greatest martyrs of all.

01:56:44.900 So there's a big – I mean the punchline here is that the concept of sin in the orthodox world, you know, in the hezochastic world isn't necessarily the really legalistic aspect of, oh, I did something wrong.

01:56:58.700 I committed an act, and it's a crime, and like stepping on a landmine, I'm going to be punished for it, or there's a record being kept in heaven on a piece of paper.

01:57:05.480 Sin is deeper than that.

01:57:08.920 We are expected in our empirical day-to-day self to sin.

01:57:12.180 You know, we're alcoholics.

01:57:13.360 We're forced to work in a bar.

01:57:14.880 You know, it's going to happen.

01:57:17.520 There's another level here, and this is where we're talking about eternal punishment.

01:57:21.360 It's when our very self-identity, the hard wiring in our mind and our mentality is absolutely dedicated to this and defends it and sees it as natural and wonderful and good.

01:57:32.980 That's a separate matter.

01:57:34.120 So we're talking about two different selves, the noumenal self, our identity, who we are and what we're striving for.

01:57:40.820 The empirical self is how we live every day, and we're not perfect beings.

01:57:45.100 It's when the noumenal self becomes taken over and is hardwired into this lifestyle.

01:57:51.600 Ah, then there's no hope for us.

01:57:54.060 But the empirical self, you know, alcoholics being forced to work in a bar, you're going to take a drink down again.

01:57:59.000 So this isn't all a hopeless concept, but the concept of sin has to be brought back to the patristic foundation.

01:58:06.360 There's a couple of points I'd like to make.

01:58:16.160 Yeah, so I think we have to be open to the possibility that there's a great number of people who will essentially die the way animals die.

01:58:30.760 And it's sad, it's a tragedy, but I think that's part of the terribleness of these latter days.

01:58:44.260 Now, as far as you say, as the patristic conception of sin, yes, there is a certain danger to the over-legalization of an understanding of sin.

01:58:56.700 And there is a certain strand of Catholic thinking that leads that way.

01:59:02.620 And, of course, many Protestants inherited that strand as well.

01:59:06.980 But I think the best Catholic thinking we'll find will mirror that understanding that we have responsibility, ultimately,

01:59:20.020 but God is both merciful and knows exactly our circumstance, right?

01:59:26.580 So culpability for any given event does depend on circumstances.

01:59:39.100 Circumstances do matter, and the Lord knows those circumstances.

01:59:42.680 The Lord is just and merciful.

01:59:44.100 Yeah, that's why I think the alcoholic being forced to work in a bar, it really works, because if God is seeing all this, sees our condition,

01:59:58.420 the notion that we're going to fall on a pretty regular basis, this has got to be built into the understanding.

02:00:04.160 In fact, my sins, I've learned from them.

02:00:06.720 I've suffered because of them, and certain things I've been able to overcome just from that point.

02:00:11.920 And I think that's how grace works.

02:00:13.960 But the other point you made is one that I've been struggling with almost my entire adult life.

02:00:20.220 I've come to the conclusion that you're absolutely right, that there is no possible way that God could judge somebody who has become completely carnal,

02:00:32.060 that's been hardwired into this system from birth.

02:00:36.100 I don't know how do we all know these people.

02:00:37.400 Most people are like this.

02:00:38.800 They're not free.

02:00:39.520 They have no free will whatsoever.

02:00:41.020 They wouldn't know what to do with free will if it was granted them.

02:00:44.260 It's free will, of course, implies the domination of the spirit.

02:00:47.560 Objects in space and time aren't free.

02:00:49.340 This is nothing but cause and effect.

02:00:51.400 How in heaven's name are these people judged?

02:00:53.700 How can they go to hell if that's the case?

02:00:56.020 That would be a horrible injustice.

02:00:57.840 Well, God can't be involved in injustice.

02:00:59.460 Therefore, probably the most merciful thing is that they simply go out of existence in one way or another, either totally or in a sense of the shield concept that I mentioned before.

02:01:11.740 It's simply the semi-existence like you have in the Old Testament.

02:01:14.600 This is Justin Martyr's view of the immortality of soul.

02:01:18.820 And I got it from him, and John Damascus has a tendency to go that way, too.

02:01:25.340 I don't understand if the law that we try to follow in the church is applied to everybody.

02:01:30.880 That seems absurd to every living human being.

02:01:33.000 That seems absurd and very unjust.

02:01:34.420 You know, it could have been me.

02:01:37.580 I only converted in my 20s.

02:01:40.480 You know, so this is...

02:01:41.000 There but for the grace of God go by, right?

02:01:42.880 Exactly.

02:01:43.360 So, you know, but how can they burn for eternity?

02:01:47.020 You know, um...

02:01:48.180 Yeah, no, that's a good point.

02:01:49.920 Well, I think we're under, um...

02:01:51.540 The only issue is, I don't want to cut you off there, but we're under, we have a little bit of a time constraint.

02:01:55.320 So I want to kind of get the practical material out to our viewers, and then we can maybe come back a later date and just talk and maybe talk about theology.

02:02:02.640 So we talked a little bit about, you know, infestation.

02:02:06.880 So I think the other thing is, the most conspicuous is, you know, possession.

02:02:12.200 This is something that we're intimately familiar with from pop culture.

02:02:16.200 You know, this is the subject of many, many, you know, horror films.

02:02:20.320 This is, you know, kind of the arch fear for many people, you know, demonic possession,

02:02:24.580 where the human body no longer serves as a host for the sovereign will of its spirit,

02:02:32.640 but rather serves as a tool for a demon.

02:02:38.200 So, there are...

02:02:40.480 The first thing to note, these are incredibly rare.

02:02:43.640 They happen very, very seldomly.

02:02:48.260 Because God is in total control.

02:02:51.460 These demons have no power compared to him.

02:02:53.760 His sovereignty is absolute.

02:02:55.640 But when they do occur, you know, there are several very distinct and clear signs that these exist.

02:03:03.620 The first we talked about a little bit earlier on, which is, you know, occult knowledge.

02:03:07.600 People can, you know, speak perfect Coptic or Phonician or Latin,

02:03:12.020 despite the fact that they're eight years old, and they don't know how to read.

02:03:14.560 They, you know, they know, they grip scientific methods or scientific concepts, technical concepts,

02:03:21.980 or have knowledge about people they can have no way of knowing.

02:03:24.720 Their avoidance.

02:03:27.180 The second aspect is occult powers, in that sense.

02:03:32.720 You know, 13-year-olds that can throw grown men across a room.

02:03:36.420 Okay, who can, you know, levitate and fly around, right?

02:03:44.000 You telekinetically, you know, shoot chairs across the room.

02:03:47.560 These are pretty conspicuous signs.

02:03:50.080 The third is a heavy aversion to holy things.

02:03:53.660 They can't stand to be in church.

02:03:55.360 They can't stand to be around holy people.

02:03:56.820 They can't stand to pray.

02:03:57.800 They can't stand anything that's been blessed, holy images, anything that's beautiful and good.

02:04:01.840 There's a fourth, but I can't remember it.

02:04:08.940 I think it has something to do with the fracturing of a personality, essentially.

02:04:15.000 That the individual, if they're possessed, there will be periods of their time where they just don't remember at all what was going on.

02:04:22.460 They, you know, they have no control over their actions.

02:04:27.100 You know, they lose consciousness.

02:04:28.540 And even one or two of these things alone might not necessarily be sufficient proof.

02:04:33.400 But if you see two or three together, yeah, that's a pretty good inclination.

02:04:40.100 Yeah, manifestations of hysteria sound and look very much like, including super strength.

02:04:46.580 I'm not flying around the room or levitating.

02:04:49.060 But hysteria can manifest in ways that are extremely similar to what we consider, you know, possession would be.

02:04:55.540 Guttural voices and twisted, you know.

02:04:57.460 But I've seen it.

02:04:59.540 So these marks the church has had to lay out, this is something that you can't explain.

02:05:05.480 I think maybe the fourth thing you mentioned was the ability to know.

02:05:09.600 Sometimes they'll bless an object and hide it in the room, and they'll know it's there.

02:05:14.240 No way they could possibly know that.

02:05:18.320 But the fracturing of the personality, I think what you mean, and I got this from Malachi Martin back when I was in college.

02:05:23.520 Demon doesn't want to be identified.

02:05:26.640 You know, it's like the Meditudes when they took over Florence. 1.00

02:05:28.240 Florence, they had puppets in power.

02:05:31.100 You know, bankers, they don't want people to know that they're there.

02:05:33.660 Everything they do is deceit.

02:05:35.320 The job of the exorcist is to draw the demon out and make sure that there's a definite distinction between the personality, the victim, and the demon.

02:05:43.500 And that takes a long – that's the big – that's the victory right there.

02:05:46.980 Once the demon is forced to reveal himself, that's when the victory is won.

02:05:53.280 And, you know, I think Malachi – I learned a lot from Malachi Martin despite all the problems there because the Orthodox do the exact same thing as he does.

02:05:59.500 Yeah, and I think that one of the most – somebody I learned a lot about this theology from is a Catholic Latin mass priest by the name of Father Chad Ripperger, Ripperger, the FSSP.

02:06:14.240 He's a – you know, he's got a doctorate in philosophy and psychology.

02:06:18.420 He's a practicing exorcist, and he's an ascetic.

02:06:21.940 And he's a very, very erudite smart fellow.

02:06:24.520 I mean, he's Thomas to the maximum, but one of the things about exorcists is I think that their theology – their practical theory of spiritual theology is highly reliable because it's evidence-based.

02:06:37.240 You know, I mean, you're going to quickly find out if something's real or not when you actually have to apply it to spiritual warfare.

02:06:43.740 One of the things that exorcists have reported is you have to be a certain type of man because one of the things that – once a demon is identified, the first thing they usually do is start screaming your sexual history to everyone in the room.

02:07:00.220 That's a very common tactic they have, usually at ear-piercing volumes.

02:07:03.440 And the ascetic – this is where you really have to be an ascetic.

02:07:07.560 You have to just be able to deal.

02:07:09.120 Now, demons, you know, they mix in lines with truth.

02:07:14.260 They're never quite sure, you know, what's real and what isn't.

02:07:18.420 But this is what they do.

02:07:20.320 You really have to be not only a true ascetic and be as pure as possible, but you have to be prepared for this kind of thing. 0.66

02:07:25.560 And the knowledge that, you know, be very personal things is another one of these marks that distinguish possession from hysteria.

02:07:33.440 And then the fourth category that's typically given is demonic infestation.

02:07:40.340 This is when a demon has particular control over an object or a location.

02:07:47.040 So, you know, when people run into poltergeists, as an example, these are not ghosts or shades or specters.

02:07:55.540 These are demons that have rooted themselves in a particular place.

02:08:01.420 Usually it's because there has been some great spiritual rupture there.

02:08:07.640 A great battle has taken place.

02:08:10.020 I can give you a good example from my own personal life.

02:08:12.940 A friend of my mother bought a house in the downtown in the city where I live, and it used to be owned by the archdiocese back in the early 20th century.

02:08:21.980 And they used it as a convalescent house and a house for the poor. 0.54

02:08:27.440 So poor families would go live there or people who were sick would go live there.

02:08:31.020 When the Spanish flu came in, five whole families died in that house of the Spanish flu.

02:08:38.120 When my friend moved in there, my mother's friend moved in there, he was infested with demons and ghosts.

02:08:46.580 Absolutely infested with demons and ghosts.

02:08:50.280 He moves in there.

02:08:51.820 He lays down in his bed the first time in the night, and he can feel something get into bed with him.

02:08:58.760 The mattress depresses.

02:09:00.840 He can feel the presence.

02:09:02.020 And it was just absolutely crazy.

02:09:04.640 I mean, eventually he got them out, but it was – that's a good textbook example.

02:09:14.240 So those are kind of the extraordinary categories of influence that you will sometimes see with demons.

02:09:20.480 Now, here's the last part of the subject, I think, is what do we do to combat them?

02:09:25.340 How can we avoid their influence?

02:09:28.320 How do we actually engage in a spiritual warfare?

02:09:30.280 I'll leave it to the actual priest in the room to give the explanation.

02:09:36.640 Well, you know, I could give very, very good advice on this kind of thing.

02:09:40.460 And maybe one of these days I'll take a little bit of it.

02:09:44.860 You know, the – unfortunately, in 2017, we have very little choice but to cut ourselves off as much as humanly possible.

02:09:53.340 It's not exactly the most attractive thing.

02:09:58.220 But to build what I like to call islands of sanity, whether it be the family or even just yourself or even a handful of friends, create a space that when you walk into it, you don't know what millennium you're in.

02:10:13.460 You saturate yourself with this as much as humanly possible.

02:10:19.120 Cutting yourself off from the world, from technology, you know, of course, some of us have to use it for work.

02:10:25.300 But to cut yourself off as much as humanly possible is pretty much what we're left with, to surround ourselves with the icons and the holy books and everything else.

02:10:37.680 Sacred music is actually really a big part of this and to have it in the background like I do when I'm doing work.

02:10:42.620 Look, this is pretty much what we have.

02:10:46.720 We're not in a position even where traditional churches are losing ground in this respect, and I don't trust most of them.

02:10:55.160 It's – the struggle is getting worse and worse when the traditionalists, in our case, traditionalists or orthodox, can be just as bad as anybody else.

02:11:06.060 Being a traditionalist doesn't mean that you're a decent guy.

02:11:08.020 It just means that you believe things differently.

02:11:09.900 Cutting yourself off, building a little tiny monastery wherever you live, and creating this as a little island of sanity in the sea of disease that we're forced to live in, this is pretty much what we have left.

02:11:26.680 Fair enough.

02:11:28.100 So as far as day-to-day practices, I guess the number one thing is to actually just fight your own passions.

02:11:35.340 It's that the less you give in to the temptations of the enemy, the less power they have over you.

02:11:44.080 Yeah, so practical advice.

02:11:47.620 What do we do?

02:11:48.260 What is to be done?

02:11:49.880 Right?

02:11:50.380 So the first thing to do is to pray.

02:11:54.820 That is the number one first thing to do is just start praying.

02:12:01.700 And, okay, I get it.

02:12:03.860 You know, many of our listeners, maybe they're not necessarily believers.

02:12:08.320 Maybe they're not even necessarily Christians.

02:12:10.420 Right?

02:12:11.980 But, you know…

02:12:15.460 You're going to have to deal with it.

02:12:16.360 You're going to have to deal with it.

02:12:17.920 So, yeah, I mean, the way I describe it, it's like lifting for the soul.

02:12:22.240 I mean, you have to pray every day.

02:12:24.260 I mean, just as a baseline.

02:12:28.140 And that's difficult for people who are not…

02:12:30.260 I mean, like when you go to the gym, it's very difficult at first.

02:12:33.420 You know, you don't know how to lift properly.

02:12:35.860 Even a small amount of weight feels insurmountable.

02:12:38.520 When you do lift, you're tired for days afterwards, out of energy.

02:12:43.620 But then, once you learn how to do it, you can't live without it.

02:12:47.020 Right.

02:12:48.000 So, you know, if you've made the determination, whether it's the, I'm going to get in shape,

02:12:53.840 I'm going to start lifting, or I'm going to start praying, you know,

02:12:56.940 one of my favorite expressions is baby steps, then goose steps, right?

02:13:01.940 So, you know, start small.

02:13:03.900 Make a small commitment.

02:13:05.020 Do something every morning or every night or at meals.

02:13:08.920 Hey, here's an idea.

02:13:09.700 Say grace before you eat.

02:13:11.880 You know, make a commitment.

02:13:13.680 Keep it up.

02:13:14.120 Many of the modern-day church fathers will tell you that's the best idea.

02:13:19.960 A lot of us, we convert.

02:13:21.580 We get very excited.

02:13:22.940 And so we make these plans of living, you know, in the woods somewhere, you know, like St. Seraphim.

02:13:29.500 And we end up being disappointed and disillusioned.

02:13:33.260 Excessive rigidity means that we can't give way.

02:13:36.500 We can't give at all.

02:13:37.320 So the first big wind that comes around, we crack.

02:13:40.400 The smaller things.

02:13:42.300 Saying vespers every night.

02:13:43.280 If you could pull that off, you know, you are better off than most Christians. 1.00

02:13:49.660 And these services are designed for people in our position.

02:13:53.340 They're designed to help us in the struggle.

02:13:55.560 So that's an extremely good point.

02:13:58.240 Keep it small.

02:13:58.960 Keep it moderate.

02:14:00.200 And if God wants you to do more, it will manifest itself.

02:14:04.880 Right.

02:14:05.840 Would you care to talk about, like, sacramentals or holy or blessed objects in the role of spiritual warfare?

02:14:15.180 St. John Christum says that the sacramentals or even the sacraments themselves are simply manifestations of God's grace.

02:14:24.060 St. John Christum says that the big difference between Orthodox and Catholic thinking is actually the center of it, in my view, is created grace.

02:14:34.040 Created versus uncreated.

02:14:36.020 The Orthodox view at Paschka, there was one.

02:14:38.800 The Eden had been restored in the church.

02:14:41.360 That's what grace is. 0.90

02:14:43.620 It is not something that gets kind of applied to people from bishops.

02:14:47.120 You know, they throw it at us.

02:14:48.360 They dispense it to us.

02:14:49.760 That's heresy.

02:14:50.360 All the sacramentals do is continuously remind us where this grace is.

02:14:57.000 That's what anything does.

02:14:59.460 A sacrament could be, whether it be confession or whatever it is.

02:15:02.540 These are really nothing more than because we have bodies.

02:15:06.040 We're not just pure spirits.

02:15:08.060 We are given physical manifestations of spiritual things.

02:15:13.420 We need those.

02:15:15.740 And this is how we're constituted.

02:15:18.400 The big battle between the so-called name worshippers actually, where very few people realize, is actually about that.

02:15:24.320 That these are manifestations of grace.

02:15:27.460 And therefore, the content that they encapsulate is divine.

02:15:32.960 That's actually what the name worship controversy is.

02:15:34.780 And it's been so abused and destroyed.

02:15:40.480 So the concept of sacramentals is caught up with this.

02:15:45.980 They do nothing more than encapsulate and point out where this grace is and what it is.

02:15:51.400 I guess the best way you could do it, I mean, they're icons.

02:15:57.380 I mean, they're symbols.

02:16:00.060 In the broad sense, yeah.

02:16:01.460 Yeah.

02:16:02.840 In that they bring the supernatural reality imminently to us.

02:16:07.900 And then vice versa, direct us to it.

02:16:12.360 Think of, you know, pornography as the icon of the devil.

02:16:16.180 Our icons and sacramentals are the opposite.

02:16:17.820 Perfect.

02:16:23.780 Okay.

02:16:24.780 I feel as if any parting comments you'd like to make?

02:16:28.900 Or I think we should proceed into the second.

02:16:31.580 Kelly, you can use.

02:16:33.040 Yeah.

02:16:33.720 So the last thing I would say is if there's anyone out there who is experiencing something extraordinary,

02:16:42.000 something preternatural in your house or in your personal life,

02:16:46.680 the practical advice is to start with something sacramental.

02:16:54.220 Start with holy water or holy salt or holy oil.

02:16:58.500 Apply that liberally.

02:17:01.120 And one of two things will happen.

02:17:02.560 The problem will get better or it will get worse.

02:17:06.380 If it gets better, great.

02:17:07.780 If it gets worse, go talk to your priest.

02:17:09.700 Yeah, there's really no, I mean, that's the thing.

02:17:13.920 There's no way around this.

02:17:16.380 I mean, if you're not religious, there's no way around this without God's grace.

02:17:20.740 That's one thing that we didn't cover, but I think I'm going to make it very add.

02:17:24.500 You know, spiritual warfare is really, for the most part, not actually done by us.

02:17:29.200 This is the distinct Christian contribution of this system is that it is not our, you know, 0.96

02:17:37.840 the will of the gods against the will of the titans.

02:17:40.260 It's not our will to power against the twisted demonic and evil will.

02:17:45.760 It's God's will.

02:17:47.620 It's the Logos manifesting itself in us through his energy, through his grace.

02:17:52.260 Because when you are in a death struggle against a demon, you know, you're not as powerful as they are when it comes to those things.

02:18:03.360 But God is infinitely more powerful than they are.

02:18:07.080 And so you need his grace or you will die.

02:18:10.280 You will be defeated.

02:18:11.540 The world will conquer you.

02:18:14.040 But God is so merciful that every time you ask for it, he will give you.

02:18:17.480 He will give you everything you need to defeat them and more.

02:18:19.920 So that's where the prayer comes in, is prayer.

02:18:23.500 Pray, pray, pray.

02:18:24.380 Every time you have a temptation, say a little prayer.

02:18:28.080 You know, ask a saint to pray for you.

02:18:31.680 If you're blessed, St. Agnes, pray for me.

02:18:34.020 Virgin Mary, pray for me.

02:18:35.180 Jesus Christ, assist me.

02:18:37.000 Blood of God, help me.

02:18:38.720 These kind of things.

02:18:40.220 Lord have mercy.

02:18:41.440 Lord have mercy.

02:18:43.080 Right?

02:18:44.520 And that's, practically speaking, that's the number one biggest thing.

02:18:47.400 It's just, you have to realize that it's not you.

02:18:51.240 And I've been in these circumstances before where I am.

02:18:53.820 That's the way I looked at it, is that, you know, spiritual, I mean, it was, prayers were incantations.

02:18:59.460 You know, priests were wizards.

02:19:04.220 You know, grace is mana.

02:19:07.040 This is not how it is.

02:19:09.280 This is not how it is.

02:19:10.280 And so, um, yeah, that's basically it.

02:19:15.140 I mean, you know, long and short of it, if you've got any questions, do not hesitate to contact any of us.

02:19:22.800 We're more than willing to, glad to help and assist.

02:19:26.780 This is the whole reason why this show exists, is to do just that.

02:19:30.120 Now, having, uh, I think that's more or less the conclusion of this segment, unless anybody else would like to chime in.

02:19:38.100 No?

02:19:38.480 Well, that's a good sign.

02:19:39.820 Uh, so I'm just going to, uh, bring a few more people on right now.

02:19:43.460 We're going to move into the second part of the show here, which is Kali Yuga News.

02:19:50.460 Now, uh, Will, uh, Freelance, are you there?

02:19:55.820 Can you hear me, my friend?

02:19:57.900 Thank you very much for joining us.

02:19:59.540 Uh, we just finished the spiritual warfare section of the show.

02:20:02.160 Uh, we're going to be moving into, uh, Kali Yuga News.

02:20:05.680 You on a little break right now?

02:20:07.500 No, actually, we're recording. 1.00

02:20:09.140 Oh, shit! 1.00

02:20:10.620 You think you'll be alright? 1.00

02:20:11.880 Yeah, I'll be fine.

02:20:12.920 Okay, you have the notes?

02:20:14.560 Yeah, yeah, I got, I received the notes.

02:20:17.020 Fantastic.

02:20:17.820 Fantastic.

02:20:18.220 So, um, usually what I do is, is everybody, you know, can pick, pick a story that they

02:20:23.040 want to cover, um, you know, let's see here.

02:20:26.300 Uh, I will cover, uh, first, Catholic Church opens chapel for Muhammadans. 0.55

02:20:34.180 Uh, this is from churchmilitant.com.

02:20:39.480 Uh, this is a chaplain, from the chaplain here.

02:20:42.840 My line is, Christians should be inclined to share.

02:20:45.720 Last week, Vaticanista Marco Tosati commented on his blog on the initiative promoted by the

02:20:52.940 chaplain in charge of the chapel inside of Malpensa Airport in Milan.

02:20:57.180 Monsignor Rogero Camanni, priest in the Milanese Airport, made news in 2016 for his notable

02:21:02.740 generosity towards foreigners in difficulty, but also for providing a space for Muslim prayer

02:21:08.000 inside the chapel dedicated to Our Lady of Loretto.

02:21:11.120 Uh, uh, as the Catholic blog, Auntie Catum Camunisto points out, the cult of Loretto,

02:21:19.000 according to tradition, was born in 1291 when crusaders were thrown into the sea, and the

02:21:24.240 Latin kingdom of Jerusalem was conquered by Muslim slave soldiers, and the house of the 0.99

02:21:27.600 Holy Family of Nazareth was taken by the angels to the Italian city of Loretto.

02:21:32.060 Uh, uh, so this is, this is literally a, uh, you know, symbolically a, uh, you know, the

02:21:39.800 defeat of the crusade forces.

02:21:47.000 Tell me now.

02:21:48.400 The fruit of Vatican II continues to ripen.

02:21:51.860 Hmm.

02:21:52.240 I mean, uh, I just, you know, there's a certain, there's, sometimes I read these stories and

02:22:01.820 I don't really, I don't, I don't know what to say.

02:22:03.700 I mean, I think that they kind of speak for themselves.

02:22:05.440 It's just, it's like, you know, um, uh, what, what, what can you say?

02:22:17.980 I mean, it's like, it's like, you can't even, like, what are you supposed to say? 0.99

02:22:24.540 Like, it's, it's like finding a dead raccoon in your fucking bed when you wake up. 1.00

02:22:28.940 Bullshit. 1.00

02:22:29.440 It's fucking worse. 1.00

02:22:30.400 It's horrible. 1.00

02:22:32.180 Yeah.

02:22:33.040 What is this?

02:22:34.720 Yeah, yeah.

02:22:35.580 I mean, it just, you know, I mean, you know, these guys are aiding and abetting, uh, these

02:22:40.380 invaders, defiling our civilization and our temples and our women. 1.00

02:22:43.280 Uh, you know, um, I think the first thing to say is that, um, I think it was, uh, St.

02:22:54.040 Uh, St. John Chrysostom who told us that the road to hell is paved with the skulls of

02:22:58.600 erringing priests with bishops for their signposts.

02:23:04.600 Yeah, I mean, severely their chastisement will be great in the year after.

02:23:09.020 Um, there's not much else.

02:23:11.900 I mean, like, you know, uh, this is like a doctor who, uh, you know, in, in a, uh, this 0.90

02:23:19.760 is like a doctor in an HIV war that lets in a whole bunch of HIV-infected Negroes and heroin 1.00

02:23:25.300 addicts to come and hang out there so that they can be in solidarity with people who have 0.98

02:23:29.940 AIDS.

02:23:30.480 Like, that's basically what's going on.

02:23:32.700 Yeah, pretty much.

02:23:33.540 Um, and, you know, and then, of course, everybody shoots up and the AIDS proliferates.

02:23:39.140 Yeah, that's, that's what's going on.

02:23:40.320 So, I don't even think we need to cover this longer.

02:23:43.200 Uh, would anybody else like to pick a story and cover it?

02:23:45.340 I mean.

02:23:46.260 Yeah, I, I really, I want to give myself a little bit of an ego boost here.

02:23:50.400 Here we go.

02:23:50.960 I want to give a complete story.

02:23:52.740 Um, when I look at this guy, you know, I, um, I really want to read the byline here

02:23:58.460 just to give people a context of what's going on.

02:24:00.120 Oh, all right, uh, uh, Maybelline, uh, referring to the, uh, cosmetics manufacturer, throws 0.51

02:24:06.540 women under the bus for their first gay ambassador.

02:24:10.040 In other words, uh, this is a man, uh, you know, biologically speaking, dressed, uh, like 0.83

02:24:16.860 a woman with, with, um, makeup and everything else, trying to look as feminine as humanly 0.99

02:24:20.360 possible.

02:24:20.700 Um, that is now their big ambassador.

02:24:24.400 Um, and I think what, what they mean is by women under the bus is that this supposed 0.99

02:24:28.580 to be strictly a female thing. 1.00

02:24:30.560 And, but now they've given it to a biological man.

02:24:33.620 Um, and the, the, the thing now, um, one of my great successes in life is that I have

02:24:43.200 two teenage boys that are really extraordinary or better than I was Betty.

02:24:48.440 Um, they're a students, both in, in gifted school.

02:24:51.420 Um, they're both normal in that respect.

02:24:54.360 They're, um, athletes.

02:24:55.640 They're popular.

02:24:56.220 They have a lot of friends, you know, and I asked myself, you know, am I that superior

02:25:01.100 to the world that, that, that this is what I create?

02:25:03.960 No, it's, that it's really not that hard to be there for them, to be consistent, to

02:25:09.620 control your emotions at a young age, to expose them to the same rather than the same thing.

02:25:14.260 Now, I mentioned that because the guy's father writes here, uh, to someone who hates the,

02:25:20.760 uh, uh, who hates the facts.

02:25:23.740 It wasn't even someone who hates the facts.

02:25:25.540 It's someone who tweeted the post and said, fathers, raise your children.

02:25:30.080 Oh, right, right.

02:25:30.540 Yeah.

02:25:30.680 Well, you know, it's been pretty well established that, that homosexual men overwhelmingly come

02:25:36.560 from households without a father.

02:25:38.940 Um, and that's really one very consistent variable here.

02:25:42.500 And I think, I'm hoping what the guy is here, is saying here, is he's making reference to

02:25:46.780 that, that this guy is mentally ill, that this guy did not have a father, uh, at least

02:25:52.920 that was there for him to raise him properly. 0.90

02:25:54.480 And this is the, the sickness that you get from that family, that, that natural unit is

02:25:58.520 destroyed.

02:25:58.840 Now, the father, and when I'm reading his response, he threatens a guy here, um, vaguely.

02:26:05.680 Uh, he says, going forward, I will choose your actions and words wisely.

02:26:10.060 Just like you would do anything for your family.

02:26:11.960 I would do, um, and what I'm reading here is a father who is broken.

02:26:20.040 He's lashing up because he knows the truth of the matter.

02:26:24.220 I guarantee you, I'll bet my car, that this father is loaded with regret, that he didn't

02:26:30.480 do something, he wasn't there, something like that, uh, that led to this poor man.

02:26:35.860 And, you know, I, I pity these guys. 1.00

02:26:37.420 They're mentally ill. 1.00

02:26:38.120 They're freaks. 1.00

02:26:38.600 Uh, they need treatment not to be given jobs and positions like this and makeup and indulgence.

02:26:45.300 And as a father for many years, I'm reading this thing and I'm almost feeling sorry for

02:26:51.000 the father because it, it's like, you know, a broken man just lashing out somebody who points

02:26:57.860 out just how broken he is and the results of his brokenness and his failures many years

02:27:03.420 ago.

02:27:03.640 Um, uh, and so the more I read this thing, um, the more I realize, uh, the, the, the essential,

02:27:10.160 the foundational nature of the family, this is what happens when the ego is stressed above

02:27:15.600 the natural units and the natural order and the regret that this father must feel and self-hatred

02:27:20.620 because he knows he, he has some responsibility for the sickness of this, of this kid.

02:27:26.680 Um, uh, you know, um, it's, it's, it's, it breaks my heart because, you know,

02:27:34.300 kids don't come out of the womb, you know, like my kids did.

02:27:37.520 I had a vision for them.

02:27:39.180 Uh, my ex-wife and I worked very, very hard to give them that foundation and it worked.

02:27:43.900 Um, this guy, something must have happened.

02:27:45.800 Something broke it early on and he is lashing out here as a result. 0.99

02:27:50.380 And I feel bad for him and I feel bad for the fangs because, you know, they are all sick people. 1.00

02:27:56.180 Something's happened to them or there's something, there's a short circuit in their brains that 0.98

02:27:59.580 led to this. 0.95

02:28:00.380 Many times they've been sexually abused as children.

02:28:02.880 That's a very common denominator.

02:28:05.500 It's a huge term.

02:28:05.940 I know, I know people in my own life, literally, who managed to actually abandon this, but this 0.97

02:28:11.600 is what happened to make them a fag and they, you know, uh, uh, and eventually they, they 1.00

02:28:17.320 walked away from it. 0.99

02:28:18.760 The scientific evidence for that, the, the sexual abuse and the abandonment by a father

02:28:22.960 is overwhelming.

02:28:24.620 And, um, and those things are often related.

02:28:26.800 Or sometimes it's, um, overbearing mother and distant father.

02:28:33.040 Yes.

02:28:33.600 Which is, which isn't that different.

02:28:35.060 The domination of the feminine and the father seeming to be the perpetual victim. 0.70

02:28:38.520 Uh, I feel sorry for both people here.

02:28:41.460 Yeah, I mean, uh, you know, really, um, I think that, what the, yeah, I mean, you said

02:28:51.420 it all, uh, doctor.

02:28:52.480 It's just, there's, raise your children, uh, fathers.

02:28:55.520 And, um, I mean, the, the father is the icon of God, uh, in the home.

02:29:00.900 Um, uh, hey, freelance.

02:29:04.820 Yeah.

02:29:05.720 I thought you could maybe mute your microphone when you're typing.

02:29:07.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:29:08.300 Sorry.

02:29:09.060 Okay, but, um, if I were to, oh, sorry, go ahead.

02:29:12.120 Yeah, I know, no, but the father is the icon of God and the state in the home is the state's

02:29:17.200 authority comes from the authority of the father.

02:29:23.720 The family is the root of the political.

02:29:26.520 Exactly.

02:29:26.880 Of the polis. 0.53

02:29:27.480 And so we live in an age that would, that has openly completely rejected.

02:29:31.580 But this guy as Maybelline's gay ambassador is, is the, the most heart rendering product. 0.87

02:29:38.340 If I were debating this guy, I would not be confrontational at all. 0.86

02:29:43.540 I would, I would be, I would tell him, I would say, here's why you're, you know, threatening

02:29:47.280 me.

02:29:48.200 I don't care what you say, what you do, you know, and you shouldn't be, you know, I try

02:29:52.080 to be as compassionate as possible with this guy.

02:29:54.620 Not back down, but say, this is why you're doing this.

02:29:59.240 Uh, maybe it's not too late.

02:30:00.300 Who knows?

02:30:00.820 Maybe he could still make this right.

02:30:02.700 But in threatening this guy, uh, over something so trivial and minor, that's screaming to me

02:30:07.780 that this guy is hurting, that this guy did something or didn't do something to lead to

02:30:12.380 this, uh, this free.

02:30:13.400 Precisely.

02:30:17.400 Now, uh, uh, Doc, do you want to pick an article?

02:30:21.280 Yeah.

02:30:21.660 So, uh, I guess I'll take, uh, the Zog Speaks. 1.00

02:30:26.520 Ah, Zog Speaks in the election. 1.00

02:30:29.860 Please go ahead.

02:30:30.680 If you just mention the source and the byline.

02:30:33.260 Yep.

02:30:33.460 So, uh, our headline is from Russia Today, RT, uh, headline, Theresa May won't last and

02:30:44.060 Donald Trump is a would-be dictator, says George Soros.

02:30:49.300 British Prime Minister Theresa May won't last long in office. 0.99

02:30:58.980 U.S. President-elect Donald Trump is little more than a would-be dictator, according to

02:31:04.180 billionaire George Soros.

02:31:06.380 Speaking on Thursday at the Davos Economic Forum, ahead of Trump's inauguration, the

02:31:11.560 investors and philanthropists told the audience of business people and journalists that May

02:31:18.060 would likely not survive the Brexit process, which he predicted, once fulfilled, could see 0.91

02:31:23.380 the U.K. simply rejoin again anyway.

02:31:26.980 Quote,

02:31:27.920 In my opinion, it is unlikely that the Prime Minister May is actually going to remain in

02:31:33.220 power.

02:31:33.920 Already, she has a very divided cabinet, a very small majority in Parliament, and I think

02:31:38.640 she will not last.

02:31:40.300 You want a little help here, Doc?

02:31:41.560 At the moment, the people in the United Kingdom are in denial.

02:31:48.120 The current economic situation is not as bad as was predicted, and they live in hope.

02:31:52.960 But as the currency deprecates, and inflation will bring the driving force, this will lead

02:31:57.900 to a declining in living standards.

02:31:59.820 Who could possibly be behind the inflation, I wonder?

02:32:04.440 Oh, wait, isn't this the same guy that broke the pound?

02:32:07.980 The guy who's speculating on the pound?

02:32:11.540 He said he hoped the divorce would not be a bitter one, that both the EU and UK would

02:32:20.920 see sense in their shared common ground.

02:32:24.900 However, the entrepreneur saved his harshest words for Trump, saying his fellow tycoon is

02:32:29.340 no more than an imposter and con man who is already gearing up for a trade war, and would almost

02:32:37.960 certainly have a very far-reaching effect in Europe and other parts of the world.

02:32:42.000 Like, does this guy realize how much he sounds like a Bond villain?

02:32:52.460 Put the words right out of my mouth.

02:32:54.460 Yeah, I think maybe that's, like, that's the aesthetic he's going for.

02:32:57.560 Like, he's, you know, he's trying to be... 0.99

02:33:00.000 Like, because he is, he's a fucking Bond villain. 0.97

02:33:04.280 It's like, I watched Goldfinger once, I think this is what I want to base my life around. 0.99

02:33:09.480 So you see, you see Mr. Rain had hatred, your SS men will never be able to assassinate me.

02:33:16.580 I'm behind seven underground bases. 0.99

02:33:18.580 I mean, it's just like, you know, I mean, uh, talk about eternal chastise, but fucking George Soros. 0.97

02:33:32.980 I mean, Dr. Johnson, you know, I know that you have strong feelings about George Soros. 0.97

02:33:38.380 I mean, uh, probably for you.

02:33:41.220 You know, I even have stronger feelings over the best Mort Goldman impression I've ever heard in my life.

02:33:46.040 Oh, you're not, you're not familiar, uh, uh, Dr. Johnson.

02:33:50.940 I guess you're not familiar with our, uh, Mossad handler, uh, Moysheh Ben-Tilamid.

02:33:55.960 He's, uh, he's actually the, the man I work for.

02:34:00.440 Do you mean that the Mort Goldman impression was done by accident?

02:34:04.400 No, no, I mean to you, Dr. Johnson, that, uh, Moysheh is, uh, Moysheh is a very peculiar character who, uh, who I work for.

02:34:13.180 He's, he's, uh, part of Assad, and I'm, uh, his, uh, his, uh, his asset.

02:34:17.720 And I create this entire podcast merely to be, uh, you know, I'm Florian Geyer. 0.95

02:34:23.340 He's really the alter ego of Moysheh, and really I'm, uh, you know, part of the MKUltra, uh, co-op, a co-intel program to destroy, uh, the alt-right by, um, agitating against, uh, fags and, uh, racist liberalism. 0.96

02:34:35.800 Yeah, I knew that. I figured that they'd be paying you better, though. 0.95

02:34:40.640 Yeah, well, you know, listen, Dr. Johnson, I mean, I have some very nice IKEA furniture in my bachelor apartment.

02:34:46.880 That, that would follow, yes, from, from IKEA to doubt.

02:34:50.780 Yes, it's the, uh, IKEA nationalism.

02:34:53.540 Yeah, we have to make a living, you know, we all have to make a living somehow.

02:34:56.480 Truly, truly, as you say.

02:34:58.780 How, how could I ever afford to, uh, anyway, I'm not going to follow this route for me.

02:35:03.020 So, yeah, I could go all the way, man, so.

02:35:05.620 Truly, truly, yeah.

02:35:07.500 I, uh, it leads directly to hell.

02:35:09.720 So, Freelance, do you want to, do you want to pick an article, my friend, and be the last guest you want to hear?

02:35:15.060 Uh, yeah, yeah, I got one in mind.

02:35:16.940 Um, this one is, uh, NPR Nig Kike. 0.98

02:35:20.420 Will racism end when old bigots die? 0.99

02:35:23.700 Good question. 0.99

02:35:24.960 Good question.

02:35:25.560 I can read a forward, a little bit of a forward for this.

02:35:27.620 I don't want to, like, read the whole thing part of it.

02:35:28.680 Please, please.

02:35:28.940 A mutant freak named Leah Dinella, a half-kike Nigroid, has written an article for NPR theorizing that the racial hatreds in America will end when old people die. 1.00

02:35:40.220 Look at the sick Nig Kike, and there's a picture of her. 1.00

02:35:42.840 The whole Jew face is evident, even with the half-Nig shaking my damn head. 1.00

02:35:47.700 Those Jew genes are strong, huh? 1.00

02:35:49.960 Not even the genes of the Nigroid can hide them. 1.00

02:35:52.620 Wow.

02:35:53.580 Classic English writing here, like, really.

02:35:55.500 It's really just driving this home. 0.99

02:35:59.320 Nig Kike's entire premise, a meme which has been spread by other Jews and blacks, including the nasty old black bitch Oprah, is that with each generation, people are becoming less and less racist. 0.99

02:36:10.340 And that, as time progresses, racism will head down towards zero. 0.99

02:36:14.060 And hilariously the opposite of what we are seeing.

02:36:16.220 Yeah, well, that's the thing, and this is the reason why I chose this article, is because I've heard this same point spouted from liberal family members of mine.

02:36:23.880 You know, that, oh, well, you know, all those old races are just dying off. 1.00

02:36:28.860 It's funny, too.

02:36:29.880 And I guess you have to laugh.

02:36:31.500 I mean, because, you know, like, highly religious fundamentalist families have the highest birth rate in the United States in almost any demographic. 0.99

02:36:39.460 Like, it's funny, though, because, like, honestly, like, the more I see of this shit in D.C., it's like, it's so fucking clear to anyone it's not fucking true. 1.00

02:36:49.120 Like, I'm not even trying to go, like, you know, Democrats, real racist bullshit here. 0.99

02:36:52.780 It's just, like, it's fucking, I don't think I've seen this much civil fucking turmoil in this country, honestly, since the fucking 60s. 1.00

02:37:01.480 So it is, it is fucking, it's fucking stupid. 1.00

02:37:06.800 Yeah, I mean, it's just, I don't even know what there is to say. 1.00

02:37:13.240 I mean, it's manifestly evident that this is not the case.

02:37:15.980 You know, that's because the people who think like us, they actually, you know, they're interested in having families and raising them well, and their offspring will have children. 0.98

02:37:25.160 Whereas the people who, you know, are our enemies, they usually don't have families, and if they do, you know, they have one or two kids, and a lot of times they come out to be faggots or cat ladies, you know, I mean. 1.00

02:37:38.460 Thank God for that. 1.00

02:37:39.380 Are cat ladies the same, similar to faggots? 1.00

02:37:41.860 They are. 1.00

02:37:42.320 They're a faggot in a group. 1.00

02:37:43.000 I mean, that's the, you know, the cat lady is, in fact, the ideological support for the faggot. 1.00

02:37:49.960 I mean, faggotry is enabled by, you know, like, overbearing, you know, motherhood, like this clucking hen, you know, cat lady mentality, where her maternal instincts are directed from, you know, or deviate from the logos because there's no masculine balance in the household to, you know, essentially overindulgence, and that's how you get faggots. 1.00

02:38:13.160 Oh, I appreciate the explanation. 0.99

02:38:15.420 Thank you.

02:38:16.180 No problem.

02:38:17.280 Yeah, and I mean, that's the thing.

02:38:18.560 And so the, I mean, the left is composed of a huge amount of it. 0.96

02:38:23.780 The ideological left is composed of these, you know, bitter cat ladies who have, their wombs have dried up, and so they replace the void in their hearts, not with God, not with their community, not even, you know, with work or, you know, the output of their labor, but with cats and leftist shitposting. 0.57

02:38:44.040 And Grey's Anatomy, you know, expensive wine, trips to southern France, Belize, you know, and it doesn't make sense. 0.99

02:38:53.260 It's funny because, like, you're describing it like a stereotype, but, like, I've met fucking cat ladies, like, to a fucking team with the Grey's Anatomy shit. 1.00

02:39:00.260 It's fucking sad. 0.99

02:39:01.140 Yes, the Grey's Anatomy, it's a conspicuous, it's a conspicuous identifier. 0.99

02:39:04.460 That's, like, a very common, I don't know why it is, bourgeois women. 1.00

02:39:09.180 Bourgeois women love Grey's Anatomy, a television show, I don't know, if people aren't familiar about it, Doctors and Seattle. 0.98

02:39:16.360 Yeah. 0.99

02:39:16.880 It's a fucking soap opera with Doctors. 1.00

02:39:18.500 That's really all it is. 1.00

02:39:19.120 Yeah, I've seen them in Whole Foods quite often.

02:39:22.300 Yes.

02:39:23.200 If you notice in the Rattlesnake here in the comments, there's a beautiful, beautiful meme, feminism, a Jewish war for women. 0.91

02:39:31.400 This is something I'm going to be pasting on discussion boards for decades.

02:39:35.820 Oh, glorious.

02:39:37.020 Yeah, I'm going to say that one.

02:39:37.960 Do you know what that is, by any chance?

02:39:39.560 No, I don't know the commenter, but shout out to Rattlesnake and the Stormer comments.

02:39:43.600 Your memes are top tier.

02:39:44.880 There's another fundamental flaw with the Pramai's they're pushing here, besides the obvious biological problem that it's, of course, it is the religious people that they hate that are reproducing more. 1.00

02:40:00.820 But the other problem is, of course, that it's easier to turn the other into an abstract, an abstraction, when they're far, far away.

02:40:12.520 But when you bring them close to you, you have to deal with the reality of that person and all of their dysfunctions.

02:40:20.660 So, you know, precisely, I mean, this is this explains, you know, how, why, you know, people from from from from Washington State and Minnesota, these are the only two white demographics in the country that vote majority Democrat.

02:40:34.820 Because those areas are so white that they don't actually have to be exposed to Negroes and other minorities. 0.54

02:40:44.100 And I mean, I remember, it's very funny, I actually was explaining this to a family member of mine who she was raised, you know, in a upper middle class, virtual lifestyle in, you know, a very white part of Colorado.

02:40:55.820 You know, spent her entire life away from diversity, and I was explaining to her how I was from a very multicultural city, and I grew up surrounded by, you know, many different ethnicities and religions.

02:41:07.040 And she was like, oh, wow, that's so nice, you know, it's so good that you get the perspective and the diversity.

02:41:11.280 And I just, I looked at her, and I laughed, and I shook my head.

02:41:18.500 It's just, they just don't even understand.

02:41:20.940 I mean, it's like, you know, the, the, nothing has done more to radicalize mean awards of race war, theoretically, not that I would ever break the law, than, you know, pedo game accepting is being on public transportation.

02:41:35.840 Public transportation, public transportation, when you actually are in close proximity with the masses of Somali and Lebanese and Jamaican and Sub-Saharan, I'm trying to, you know, Negroes and San Negroes, you know, you really, it's a biological reaction. 1.00

02:42:02.520 There's a real, physical, very biological reaction. 0.99

02:42:08.140 Yeah, I have, as somebody who's wrote on public transportation, I can, I can really vouch for that, like, I'll feel a lot more uncomfortable on a bus full of fucking black people than just say, you know, even kind of sketchy looking whites, because it's, it's easier to blend into that kind of fucking crowd, like, if you're not the fucking odd man out, pardon my friend. 1.00

02:42:28.040 Yeah, I mean, yeah, we could talk about the sociology of this all day, but we're actually at the perfect place to end our podcast. 0.91

02:42:34.580 Unfortunately, yeah, while we're just going to this one, I'm your host, Florian Geyer, thank you for joining us for another episode of Mysterian Fashions.

02:42:45.500 Joining me today, we had Doc Savage, who unfortunately had to bow out just a moment ago, but I would like to thank him, I don't, I don't want to say posthumously, but thank him post facto for joining us, his contributions were great.

02:42:57.260 Joining us late in the program, we had Freelance Autists, who did a little bit of, you know, surfy at shitposting. Thank you, Freelance, you know, we need to get your abilities on more, you're alleged. 0.98

02:43:08.520 Always glad to help.

02:43:10.100 God bless.

02:43:11.240 Zyger, are you there?

02:43:13.620 You know, our main man, Zyger, is diligently reporting for us, but is absent at the moment. Thank you, Zyger, for assisting us.

02:43:20.000 Our guest of honor today is Father Raphael Johnson.

02:43:22.940 Father Johnson, you know, it's always a pleasure to have you on.

02:43:25.300 I mean, really, it's, it's just the best. Thank you very much.

02:43:29.540 You know, you and Jay are my favorite shows to go on.

02:43:32.760 It's the most stimulating. It really makes me work, and that's, that's a big deal.

02:43:38.280 This is, this is a, this is a tremendous show, and this has been my favorite episode so far.

02:43:43.540 Well, I've, I cannot think of higher praise. You flatter me.

02:43:47.620 To all of our listeners, thank you for joining us.

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02:43:59.380 Shalom.

02:43:59.800 gasm.com

02:44:20.580 The car has a helmet and a hand.

02:44:26.140 He goes on, on and on.

02:44:30.040 He sets off the roof of the red hair. 0.55

02:44:34.100 He goes on, on and on.

02:44:37.620 He sets off the roof of the red hair. 0.55

02:44:45.240 At Weizberg sets it off and on.

02:44:49.880 He, ja, oh, ho. 1.00

02:44:54.080 Gar mancher über die Linke sprang.

02:44:58.660 He, ja, oh, ho. 1.00

02:45:02.560 Spieß voran, drauf und dran.

02:45:06.000 Setz aufs Losterdach den roten Haar.

02:45:10.500 Spieß voran, drauf und dran.

02:45:14.700 Setz aufs Losterdach den roten Haar.

02:45:19.880 Geschlagen ziehen wir nach Haus.

02:45:26.980 He, ja, oh, ho. 1.00

02:45:29.400 Unsere Enkel fechten's besser aus.

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