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00:01:01.560 Welcome to Mysterium Fasci's Episode 14, Morality.

00:01:10.280 This week, I, your host Florian Gyer, am joined by a panel of three guests.

00:01:16.780 First is Titus Flavius of Kultukampf.

00:01:20.280 Many of you should know his podcast.

00:01:22.300 It's also syndicated on Daily Stormer and is excellent.

00:01:25.220 Titus, I'm a big fan of your work.

00:01:26.680 I'm really glad to finally get you on this podcast.

00:01:29.380 Well, thank you very much for having me, sir.

00:01:31.560 ropa invicta truly uh joining me uh our two regular co-hosts i've got grieva hans thank

00:01:39.760 you grieve hey no problem and doc savage thanks for coming on friend jazu maria always love to

00:01:46.760 be here excellent so yeah no um i want to talk about a couple of different kind of house cleaning

00:01:53.160 topics and then we'll get into our subject for today which i think is very very important

00:01:57.140 uh the first thing i wanted to say is you know to our listeners um i really i'd like to hear your

00:02:02.400 suggestions you know your critiques are appreciated i'm just going to try to move to a format with fewer

00:02:07.960 guests and more content from each personality um because having kind of more than five people i

00:02:14.960 think is just too uh uh claustrophobic i would say that would be the first thing the second thing i

00:02:21.420 would say is that there seems to be a lot of confusion and rumors surrounding like the reasons

00:02:27.780 for my conversion to orthodoxy and like you know my current education status so i'm going to make

00:02:34.140 this really really clear um i'm not a seminarian i hope to enter seminary but i'm a university student

00:02:40.420 i study theology at a university okay i'm taking a bachelor of arts degree so i'm not in seminary

00:02:47.140 you know i didn't drop out of a catholic seminary to go to an orthodox seminary you know i still have

00:02:51.400 to finish my degree the second thing is is that i did not convert to orthodoxy uh because of any

00:02:57.960 political or theological reasons initially okay you know it wasn't because bergoglio you know said

00:03:03.620 one communist thing too far for me or you know i thought um papal infallibility was contradictory

00:03:10.000 although now i do it was because i had a conversion experience it was really a direct kind of spiritual

00:03:15.560 you know very personal and sudden thing um so it really had nothing to do with any of that other

00:03:21.240 stuff although of course after i had this experience i went and did a lot more research

00:03:25.840 and i changed my opinion in a few different things so anyway i just thought i'd get clear

00:03:29.980 up that confusion in the first couple of minutes of the show so uh on to the meat and potatoes of

00:03:37.920 today's episode we're going to be discussing morality so why discuss morality okay well

00:03:45.060 this is a subject that is actually not discussed very much at all on the alt-right um it's just

00:03:53.240 kind of taken for granted when frankly there are many differing uh ethical and moral systems at play

00:03:59.540 in the different uh ideological spheres and camps and most people actually don't have a firm ethical

00:04:04.020 sense at all um so number one because nobody actually talks about it and this is really the

00:04:09.900 underpinning of all of our actions and as we're going to get into a little bit later um and that's

00:04:15.940 the thing is well we're going to we're going to do a lot of exposition on this but we're doing what

00:04:22.860 we're doing because we think it's right not just the right you know right as in tactical

00:04:30.400 to our evolutionary advantage but in some way really metaphysically right and just

00:04:36.300 and it's not uh just maneuvering uh for economic advantage or some sort of biological uh preservation

00:04:46.060 although certainly there are those elements to it there's something more going on so if we don't

00:04:51.500 have a moral sense at least a moral axis and it you know it doesn't have to be even christian

00:04:57.000 you know we don't have any grounding for that but any of you other gentlemen like to comment on

00:05:02.140 why the discussion of morality is important uh yeah i'll take a stab at that um it's important

00:05:11.740 to understand that all societies in any place in any time are ultimately founded in a transcendental

00:05:20.020 vision of the good now all these societies will vary in what they see that good as and how they

00:05:27.380 approach that good but even so-called secular states have a transcendental vision of the good

00:05:34.720 right now we may disagree we may say that their good is actually evil but there is no such thing as

00:05:41.920 a as a really truly secular state and so um this this discussion today is of utmost importance

00:05:48.820 yeah i would agree um it's not just only you know we're not only fighting for you know our people

00:05:56.160 and and for the the political ideals in which we believe help our people the most um or do the

00:06:02.860 most good for our people but it is also a a spiritual battle as well so this is a a necessary

00:06:09.940 conversation certainly and if people are interested in learning more about spiritual warfare they should

00:06:14.880 check out uh the last episode we recorded with dr rafael johnson where we go into that subject in depth

00:06:19.600 go on hans uh yeah the thing is if you only focus on the political and all this i mean the political

00:06:28.140 in and of itself has no end goal if you just focus on politics for politics sake that doesn't lead you

00:06:34.080 anywhere you can always ask why why why all the time till until you you literally analyze everything

00:06:43.020 to death and you have nothing left there needs to be something that that leads the politics to that

00:06:49.520 leads the power that is uh morality that's religion that's god and if you don't have that everything

00:06:58.340 will just dissolve yeah you're you're correct hans you know and it's good to get you back on the show

00:07:03.700 it's uh it's been a couple of episodes since you've been on and uh people have been complaining

00:07:07.620 i miss you well i'm glad to be on now at least yes excellent and i think this is a subject perfectly

00:07:14.480 suited towards your personal interests um so before we even get into a discussion of morality

00:07:20.500 we're going to make a distinction here between morality and moralism and there's somebody actually

00:07:27.640 who has talked about this in a way superior than i ever could come up with and that's dr joseph goebbels

00:07:31.960 now i want to thank titus flavius for linking me to this speech um uh i had already read it but uh

00:07:38.480 it had slipped my mind that he had done it so thanks titus uh so i think what i'm going to do

00:07:43.560 is uh i'm going to just read the speech it's not so so it's not so long and i think it will bring

00:07:48.260 our pleasures some joy so joseph goebbels read the speech more morality less moralism and he gave it at

00:07:58.060 in munich in 1939

00:08:00.280 every revolution has its mistakes ours too this is not in itself bad since they mostly disappear on

00:08:11.620 their own or with time the most important thing is that those in charge keep their eyes open

00:08:16.180 and do not remain silent when they ought to speak out for fear of the public obviously an historical

00:08:22.040 revolution a vast extent brings a mass of nonsense to light along with its enormous benefits

00:08:27.780 it becomes dangerous only when the nonsense is left to grow thus hemming in and strangling the

00:08:34.280 healthy organic development of the revolution it is time today to expose some of this nonsense

00:08:40.140 that has accompanied national socialist revolution to the full light of day and examine it without

00:08:45.240 pity that is even more necessary since otherwise some of this nonsense over time may gradually

00:08:52.680 corrupt the style and nature of our revolution leaving to posterity an image of our nature and goals

00:08:57.540 that is no way corresponds to nationalist socialist convictions or views certainly there is a need

00:09:03.840 for public regulation of the great moral foundations of our national life however some the excuse me

00:09:10.300 however some nonsense is also spreading that attempts to reach beyond that to establish a code for the

00:09:16.380 purely personal conduct of individuals that leads eventually to a moralism that is everything other

00:09:22.240 than national socialist peculiar people whose life is either behind them or have no right to have one

00:09:28.340 ahead of them preach moralism in the name of our revolution this moralism often has nothing in common with true

00:09:34.140 morality they proclaim ethical laws that might be appropriate for a nunnery but are entirely at a place in a modern

00:09:40.000 cultural state an example in a major central german city an advertising poster for a soap company showed a fresh attractive

00:09:48.240 girl holding the soap package in her hands a moral knight who unfortunately had the right to determine

00:09:53.920 the fate of this poster forbade its distribution on the grounds that it offended moral sensibilities of the population

00:10:00.000 since the woman in the poster was holding the soap in a place that was quote for moral reasons cannot be described

00:10:06.880 more precisely end quote what is moral about this the person announcing the ban who presumes that other people share his dirty fantasies

00:10:16.000 or the german people and the national socialist movement that rightly are upset and in opposition to such a ridiculous action

00:10:23.100 investigating the matter we find that this wonderful citizen discovered his attraction for national socialism

00:10:28.520 three months after we had taken power which however did not stop him from issuing the ban in the name of national socialism

00:10:35.360 things have gone so far that this company of moralists does not stop at the borders of private life

00:10:41.820 they would love to establish purity committees in cities and in the countryside that would keep an eye on

00:10:46.960 nulla and schutz's love and marriage life it is true that they do not want to go so far as to ban kissing altogether

00:10:53.100 as in the familiar operetta since it is too popular a pastime if it were up to them however they would turn

00:10:59.380 national socialist germany into a wasteland of muttering and complaining

00:11:02.580 a place where denunciation spying and extortion were the order of the day

00:11:07.400 these same moralists often turn to government offices with the requests to ban films plays and operas

00:11:15.120 and operettas since the dancers stars etc apparently represent a grave danger to public decency

00:11:21.460 if we give in to their demands we should soon see only old ladies and men on the screen or on the stage

00:11:27.160 the theaters would be empty since the public generally does not attend them to see the same people

00:11:31.540 they see in church or in old people's homes save us from these hypocritical creatures who have no

00:11:37.760 genuine strong conception of life and who in reality preach no honest morality they generally are life's

00:11:43.840 losers protesting life itself eternal life and its laws will hardly make a way for them at most

00:11:50.380 it will lewd people excuse me it will hide behind a screen of contemptible hypocrisy and dishonest prudery

00:11:56.900 they think that the german woman should not go out alone she should not sit alone in a restaurant nor

00:12:02.620 should she go out with a boy or even an essay man without a chaperone for a sunday afternoon excursion

00:12:07.680 she should not smoke she should not drink she should not wash up and make herself pretty

00:12:12.620 in short she should do everything to keep the evil interest of a man away from her that is at least

00:12:19.500 how these midget moralists think a german woman would behave or should behave and woe to the poor

00:12:26.140 womanly creature who has the misfortune to transgress against one of these laws of course no german woman

00:12:31.340 will have bobbed hair since only jewesses and other contemptible creatures do that have these moral

00:12:36.700 trumpeters any idea how they slander and demoralize millions of german women with their preaching women

00:12:42.360 who bravely and honestly do their duty in life on the job who are good comrades to their men and sacrificing

00:12:48.480 mothers to their children don't they realize that they embarrass national socialism throughout the

00:12:53.060 world that they are 30 years too late or that one must take them to the task because they are beginning

00:12:58.500 to be annoying there are good and bad women decent and less decent women some with bobbed hair some

00:13:04.360 without whether they whether or not they powder their noses is not a sign of their inner worth and if

00:13:09.640 they occasionally smoke a cigarette at home or in society they do not feel rejected or cast out

00:13:14.400 in any event these moralists should not sit in judgment over women whether they are enemies or

00:13:20.860 even if like all real men they wish their women happiness relaxation and domestic peace through

00:13:26.400 their stiffy stuffy superiority they would keep women from it they think it is not national socialist

00:13:33.840 to enjoy life but rather one should only look at the dark side of human existence pessimism and

00:13:39.420 suspicion are the best teachers in our earthly veil of sorrows a true national socialist has no cause

00:13:45.700 to protect these miserable creatures primitiveness and absolute rejection of pleasure are the only

00:13:51.140 character values to these people if one has a clean and a dirty collar one puts the dirty one on to give

00:13:56.720 evidence to his hatred of bourgeois values a man with a good and bad suit wears the bad one particularly

00:14:02.080 for festive occasions for it shows the astonished world how revolutionary his outlook is he dislikes

00:14:08.260 joy and laughter people should have nothing to laugh about are we living in a pietistic state or in the

00:14:14.840 age of life affirming national socialism no one can suspect us of wanting to live lives of ostentation

00:14:20.660 or luxury the furor and many of his close comrades neither smoke nor drink nor enjoy sumptuous living

00:14:25.940 those however who want to rob a nation of 60 million of every pleasure and of all traces of optimism

00:14:31.980 are contemptible entirely aside from the fact that their foolish desires would drive countless

00:14:36.980 people into poverty and misery every banned activity makes more people unemployed if no one can drive a

00:14:43.620 car the automobile factories will shut down if no one can wear a new suit the looms and tailors will

00:14:48.140 have nothing more to do people no longer attend movies or the theaters hundreds of thousands of stage

00:14:53.000 and film employees will depend on public assistance to take joy and pleasure from a people means to make

00:14:58.540 it unfit for its struggle and for its daily bread he who does that sins against our reconstruction

00:15:04.480 efforts and embarrasses not the national socialist state before the whole world the result would be

00:15:10.220 a dreary impoverishment of our public life that we will not accept we do not want to abolish pleasure

00:15:17.420 but rather to let as many as possible share in it that is why we encourage people to attend the theater

00:15:22.940 that is why we give workers the opportunity to dress well for festive occasions that is the reason behind

00:15:28.060 the craft of that is the reason we shake off the agents of prudish hypocrisy why we do not allow

00:15:34.340 decent hard-working people who have every right and reason to need relief from their hard daily labors

00:15:40.440 who need to reaffirm life to recover from weariness cares and the burdens of every day to have their

00:15:45.780 necessary pleasures ruined by the eternal chicanery of these pedants we need more affirmation of life

00:15:52.560 and less complaining more morality and less moralism

00:15:56.480 sorry it's the nail on the head there yeah he really he completely gets it he's there's a lot of

00:16:05.760 hold up you mean nazis aren't puritans i just yeah really what you know the every national socialist

00:16:13.460 was not a no fun gestapo officer like the jew media makes them out to be you're telling me that

00:16:18.220 they were life affirming interested in people's pleasure and happiness beyond merely order

00:16:23.520 that's uh you should be careful there because being truthful is anti-semitic that's true that's true

00:16:32.800 because you know that if we do this six million jews will be put in the oven but back to the point

00:16:36.860 at hand i mean i think um this is something i mean i was going to say anyway but joseph gobel says it

00:16:41.000 way better than i can is that when we're talking about morality we're not talking about moralism

00:16:45.840 we're not talking about you know there's no fun puritanism right that it's like you know if you

00:16:52.720 if you ingest the liquid jew then you can't be a real national socialist because hitler didn't do this

00:16:58.260 you know it's and i mean i deal with these people all the time i mean in traditionalist christian circles

00:17:03.600 you find these people around right you know you can't uh you can't be dancing because that might lead

00:17:08.680 to sex standing up or the other way around and it's just it's uh it's disgusting i mean these

00:17:15.900 people are not interested in happiness or in living life i mean life is meant to be enjoyed

00:17:20.240 you know if we can provide that for our people it is in fact a moral good and these people who

00:17:26.300 deprive it from them are doing a moral bad and so this is not what we speak about when we say

00:17:30.920 morality i mean what what is uh this uh morality this this fixation on this this rigged form of uh

00:17:43.040 morality of this puritanism it really is reactionary in its full sense because what they do is that they

00:17:49.340 see perhaps how it was before and they see it was better before i mean we we didn't have a transsexual

00:17:55.380 three-year-old back in the day so they react by trying to uh to resurrect the the morals of the

00:18:02.160 past but what they're doing is that they're they're trying to restrict only the manifestation

00:18:06.460 only the shell so to speak only their result but they do not see what actually led to us having

00:18:13.440 better morals back in the day and that wasn't puritanism that was moralism it's true sense

00:18:18.700 we had yeah i mean yeah sorry go ahead no no it's it's it's quite all right i didn't mean to cut

00:18:24.200 you off um it's it's thoroughly superficial you know it's it's it's thoroughly based on on artifice

00:18:29.920 and and has and moralism has no real sort of deep understanding of the human condition and and how to

00:18:37.840 better you know humanity exactly exactly so what does uh more sexually come from god religion you know

00:18:46.920 being a decent human being in its true sense um if you abandon god if you abandon the source of

00:18:54.440 all morals if you abandon all decency then all you have is this rigid form and once you you you do this

00:19:01.980 it's just a matter of time before even this rigid form starts to collapse we can see this today

00:19:06.680 uh how the liberals keep normalizing uh more and more sick shit i mean now they're even normalizing

00:19:13.360 pedophilia we come to to to to the point where the liberals are literally normalizing pedophilia

00:19:20.720 and the reason why they do this is because they can't see anything wrong with it i mean if you're

00:19:24.960 going to take the liberal mentality and you're going to see what they actually believe you can't really

00:19:29.680 argue against it because they always also ask why why why why why so they just dissolve everything

00:19:37.680 they are just empty they are empty everything they're not for anything just empty everything

00:19:43.160 yeah precisely so what uh we're going to get into the morality proper the nature of it why it's

00:19:51.880 important but first i want to address really why i decided to make this podcast okay this subject rather

00:19:59.120 it's because of utilitarian ethics um because in the so-called alt-right the far right there are a lot

00:20:06.760 of people who are racist liberals um and i don't mean i mean that's slightly pejorative and i mean

00:20:13.400 it's slightly pejoratively but it's not you know entirely uh their own fault people have come to this

00:20:17.960 part of their political progression from like libertarianism i mean i went through a libertarian

00:20:22.900 phase myself you know and so a lot of times these guys they're you know they're atheists uh they're

00:20:29.240 empiricists you know they're they're they're darwinists materialists right you know and so really

00:20:34.840 they don't have any any sense of any sort of transcendence but also it's not just these guys

00:20:41.460 you also see it in some vectors from people on the furthest right guys who are biological uh

00:20:48.620 materialists basically and so instead of taking economic gain to be their their highest good as

00:20:54.040 the more libertarians do these guys take biological gain to be the highest good so they divinize their

00:20:58.660 race they divinize biology and so their code of ethics becomes utilitarian what's the best for our

00:21:06.280 biological in-group that's the way they filter all of their decisions so this podcast is aimed squarely

00:21:11.920 at refuting both of these positions but also we're going to do some construction as well as

00:21:15.940 deconstruction as you know we like to do so let me just jump into the meat here i'll lay out my

00:21:21.080 argument and then i'll bring it to the rest of my panelists to discuss so here's basically what's

00:21:25.180 going on utilitarian ethics basically is is the principle you know um the greatest good for the

00:21:32.340 most people that is a crude definition i mean the way we see it actualized a little bit more is that

00:21:38.720 it's you know the ends justify the means that the only thing that controls our behavior of ethics is what

00:21:45.380 is most pragmatic and what techniques are good enough to uh achieve the goals that we want and so

00:21:53.280 the goals that these people typically want are like you know a nice white country to coin greg johnson's

00:21:58.680 phrase good example there um you know they want to go back to this kind of 1950s bourgeois capitalist

00:22:04.620 america or on the other hand you know they want essentially worldwide white imperium uh they want to

00:22:12.320 liquidate you know all of the non-white races of the world and they want to establish you know true like

00:22:17.120 this the propagandistic idea of the nietzschean you know arian uh supremacist essentially they're white

00:22:22.700 supremacist in a real sense of that term uh you know the most extreme kind so here i'm going to

00:22:27.980 expose right now the fallacy of utilitarian morality uh utilitarian ethics so the idea the idea here is

00:22:36.080 that if you adopt this code of ethics you can do what needs to be done to achieve your goals you don't

00:22:39.940 have any uh you know what they consider to be outmoded or stringent codes upon your behavior

00:22:44.720 but the very nature of utilitarian ethics subverts itself and here's why the whole point

00:22:51.880 of having an ethical code is that it exists as a superstructure which is immutable and beyond your own

00:22:59.400 control this ethical code this law okay is something objective that you hold yourself to

00:23:06.600 the very point of it is that it's objective it's not a subjectively shifting um you know

00:23:14.360 trend and so that no matter what you do every action can be weighed against the iron law

00:23:22.020 right the iron law of morality you know and so we see this in the physical world it's most obvious

00:23:28.440 there are the natural there are the laws of nature right i mean if you if you trip and you fall you know

00:23:33.800 the the ground is right there to tell you you fucked up the if you go to the gym i mean you know you can

00:23:39.120 only lift a certain amount of weight biological reality the physical laws right prevent you from

00:23:44.740 transgressing these bounds morality or divine law is really what we're talking about divine law the

00:23:49.940 essence of the cosmic order exists in a similar way in that it serves as the objective um benchmark

00:23:57.180 outside of yourself which you compare your actions to and this is what gets people to do heroic things

00:24:01.880 because the fact that no matter what their own uh material suffering might be they care more about

00:24:08.300 the metaphysical reality the ethical structure beyond it than the than the you know the material

00:24:13.760 benefits of their own life and so with utilitarian morality you completely remove the advantage that

00:24:20.020 it brings because everybody knows this morality is constantly shifting there's no objective truth to it

00:24:24.060 it's only as good as it accomplishes the goals right it accomplishes the answer set out to do

00:24:29.280 so you remove the very utility of morality by engaging in utilitarian ethics because there is

00:24:36.460 no transcendence no metaphysical superstructure nothing beyond the utility of the actions and that's

00:24:44.240 the thing and so the whole if even if you're even if your goal was even if your goal was purely

00:24:49.620 materialism or was purely biological um success utilitarian morality is still stupid because it destroys

00:24:56.660 itself please gentlemen i want to know what you think yeah um this also ties into how um the difference

00:25:04.540 between free will and free choice uh augustine made a a very important distinction here which i want to

00:25:11.620 share briefly and that is free choice is that you you have the freedom to to choose uh how you will act

00:25:19.500 now free will is that which you should do now that might might sound a bit contradicting but what you

00:25:27.020 have to realize is that you you the desires that you have to do these orderly things they are not really

00:25:32.300 what you really want what you really want is your calling life your your goal for example if you have

00:25:39.620 the choice between watching tv or going to the gym uh maybe you want to go you should go to the gym and

00:25:46.480 get fit because i'm healthy for you that that makes you a better person while sitting on the tv makes

00:25:52.120 you fat and stupid um so by by choosing to engage in the passions the desires the uh uh easy choice so

00:26:03.040 to speak you become a slave to it you become a slave to this passion you become a slave to this this desire

00:26:09.280 and you uh you you you don't have a free will you you choose to do away with your free will

00:26:18.320 and thus you become enslaved to the passions and this is exactly what this this so-called utilitarian

00:26:24.940 morality does it it dissolves the goal you you have in life well said yeah it just becomes a competition

00:26:35.300 to to play you to uh to come essentially to to have the most amount of pleasure it's pure hedonism

00:26:41.000 essentially titus what's your perspective i'm interested i i agree with hans completely um utilitarianism

00:26:47.620 is a race to the bottom um when you sort of throw out any sort of objectivity what you end up doing

00:26:55.160 is i think what uh jimmy bentham sort of he may have actually coined this but uh a moral sort of

00:27:01.180 calculus you're basically just adding sums and figures to see whether or not um your choice is

00:27:08.080 worthwhile and you know the thing with with doing that that sort of or rather adopting that sort of

00:27:14.440 is that you can just sort of eventually excusing anything that you do um so anything can be justified

00:27:20.620 as long as you have the correct argument for it indeed and this is in fact the jewish okay

00:27:28.540 this system of ethics is jewish because this is what the talmud is all about and rabbinic judaism

00:27:34.360 is all about is you take the divine law that's revealed in the torah and then you put your own

00:27:39.680 interpretation on top of it in the form of the oral law and which is in the talmud which is the

00:27:45.120 commentary on the oral law and so you know when you get to that point that well the rabbis they don't

00:27:51.300 care you know they they twist it to whatever direction they want it to be right down what the letter of

00:27:56.600 the law says it's the interpretation that matters and so you can even see this and this is you know

00:28:00.740 phariseism talmudism right we see where this goes and so ironically a lot of these guys you know uh

00:28:06.940 especially the ones who are the more white supremacist types you know and i mean this very technically of

00:28:11.500 course you know i mean that in a very specific fashion okay uh are actually embracing a jewish mentality

00:28:17.400 yeah i mean that that that's what that's why the the jews even rejected christ the jews wanted a

00:28:23.880 earthly messiah earthly king a a a uh world fear so a vishnu hitler perhaps yeah they they wanted a

00:28:31.800 vishnu hitler uh they didn't want uh a savior they didn't care about that stuff because they were

00:28:38.300 enslaved to the desire for power will to power is is not will to power at all will to power

00:28:46.200 is slavery to the desire to for power the passion for power i mean this this will to power mentality is

00:28:54.640 is retarded because it has it has no goal in and of itself the only thing it expands into is an

00:29:01.580 infinite void yeah indeed go on doc let's hear your perspective

00:29:07.480 doc i think your microphone might be not working my friend

00:29:16.540 uh how's that i can hear you now please go ahead uh everything thus far i agree with um

00:29:23.940 the futility of utilitarianism i just wanted to maybe shine a little bit of a light on another

00:29:29.140 uh problematic aspect so in a utilitarian um frame of mode right uh we say you know the greatest good

00:29:39.740 uh uh for for the the most people or or something of that right uh or uh other slogans one might hear

00:29:48.880 are you know do as thou wilt uh as long as it harms no one else of course the problem there is well

00:29:55.120 who gets to define harm uh but the there's even a deeper problem right so if utilitarianism is to be

00:30:03.740 considered a sort of goal oriented um uh morale morality or ethics system right uh we've defined

00:30:11.600 our goal whether it be economic prosperity or biological success and we're going to order

00:30:15.600 our ethical decisions to that goal well the problem then becomes how do we how do we choose a goal

00:30:24.060 we have utilitarianism tells us nothing about whether or not our goal is good in any meaningful sense

00:30:32.000 we've just a priori decided that something is good um and it's uh

00:30:38.620 it it it it doesn't stand up to any any any sort of uh deep investigation i'm very true and i mean

00:30:47.300 why is saving your race good right i mean because it's your biological king group you know that's the

00:30:53.140 the argument reduces to darwinianism it's like well it's because you know it's the whole telos of life

00:30:58.480 is the biological reproductive success of you and your king group right okay well if that's the case

00:31:05.780 really if that was true i you know what would really be advantageous is for everybody to have for

00:31:11.820 you know the top specimens to have like eight wives and for us to like liquidate and the entire lower

00:31:16.560 races and all of this kind of stuff i mean you know it just turns into um this kind of you know

00:31:22.380 conan the barbarian fantastical you know version of itself i mean you know you become little more

00:31:28.240 than um white muslims and even worse than that if some other group out competes you that is

00:31:35.760 prima facie evidence that they are in fact morally that's true in fact that's actually a very good

00:31:41.520 point is it's like well if that's the case boys then the fact that the white race is being destroyed

00:31:46.000 good that's good that's just evolution working itself out you know we were not uh hard enough

00:31:51.440 to be able to resist the psychological infiltration of the jew they out competed us boys

00:31:55.200 pack it up it's time to go home time to go home we deserve it if you know if you that's

00:32:00.000 your morality whites deserve genocide boys i mean the reason these people can't really argue against

00:32:05.840 why uh what the jews are doing is bad it works for them that's what they can say it works for them so

00:32:12.220 yeah that's it exactly and so that's the thing and that's why it comes back to you know we say you

00:32:18.160 know you guys are making yourself white jews and you know hans and i were gonna we're gonna do an

00:32:22.840 episode on christian identity and we'll just have a take a moment to take a pot shot here but that's

00:32:27.040 basically what that seeks to do is the christian identity movement kind of corrupts the idea of

00:32:32.200 christendom as the new israel a chosen people of god and posits that the anglo-saxons are actually

00:32:37.960 literally the blood israel and that jesus christ only came to save white people yeah and everyone

00:32:44.000 else are going and it would be sacrilegious to pray for them because they're going and not human

00:32:48.100 exactly and so this is that this is the justification for literally white talmanism because they don't have

00:32:54.240 any apostolic tradition they just have the scripture right just like the pharisees they've

00:32:58.720 got their commentary on the scripture you know you guys are talmudic pharisees that's the foundation

00:33:06.440 of this christian identity protestantism it's a prop for your white supremacist ideology and i say

00:33:11.940 this as a national socialist as a fascist as a white you know white nationalist right so you know just

00:33:18.000 just to get that out of the way now is anybody else want to make any more comments or do should

00:33:24.440 we move on to the need for a serious code of ethics

00:33:26.660 i'll take that as a cent so basically you know in light of the futility of utilitarian ethics what's

00:33:35.820 the alternative well i mean you you know a serious and consistent code of ethics we're not talking purely

00:33:41.660 about christian ethics there are many serious ethical codes that are not christian a fantastic

00:33:47.800 classical example of this is stoicism okay one of the stoicism is unique among all of the ancient

00:33:56.300 philosophies in that it was one of the only ones that really focused on a rigorous code of personal

00:34:03.200 ethics designed towards fulfilling your telos your duty to your telos your the end in life the reason

00:34:09.320 why you were made and the entirety of living concerns in doing this with the with excellence

00:34:15.500 your life becomes a battle to uh immunitize the true the good and the beautiful and all morality

00:34:25.400 is subjected to those parameters but so this is not christian but right it is a serious code of ethics

00:34:31.860 titus would you would you do you want to talk about this a little bit yeah i've i've i i wish uh my

00:34:37.820 co-host uh tacitus was here because uh like the historical one uh tacitus has a uh my co-host rather

00:34:45.000 has a firmer understanding of stoicism but i think you you summed it up uh rather rather nicely um

00:34:51.300 as a sort of philosophical uh school it it was in many ways a uh a rejection of modernity um it was a

00:35:00.600 rejection of the ostentatiousness of of materialism uh and of sort of overt um hedonism uh and it it

00:35:09.560 strove for uh understanding oneself understanding oneself uh amid um you know humanity and uh and and

00:35:18.320 striving for a simple but good life

00:35:20.780 exactly and so you know we don't find this here i mean you get loads of other religions i mean

00:35:28.180 muslims have a serious code of ethics okay obviously i'm not saying you should convert to islam

00:35:32.040 okay but like if you look at salafist muslims they have a serious code of ethics that's why they're

00:35:37.560 willing to strap bombs to themselves okay and wage jihad for hundreds of years in order to obtain their

00:35:42.980 end goals it's because their ethical system is fundamentally metaphysical i mean that's what sharia law

00:35:48.560 is sharia law is the immanentizing of their ethical system their divine law on the earth to create

00:35:55.920 justice which we're going to get into in a bit right obviously i disagree with sharia law and some of its

00:36:00.000 points but it remains the case i mean you can even look at uh sikhs okay sikhs uh have a very strong

00:36:06.900 code of personal more uh very strong code of personal morality personal ethics okay you know we can also

00:36:12.620 even think of uh shintoism the bushido code this is another perfect example from a non-christian

00:36:18.560 tradition right now it's the ethical precepts are different from christianity and i disagree with

00:36:25.280 them sharply on some matters but it remains to say that these are serious ethical codes and what happens

00:36:32.280 when you have a serious system of ethics is it motivates you to do heroic things because you're

00:36:38.420 willing to sacrifice all of your physical your utilitarian comfort in order to achieve a higher end

00:36:44.420 right something beyond yourself some ideal some metaphysical reality

00:36:50.480 yeah and uh speaking of stoicism and this stuff also spengler wrote a few interesting uh things here

00:37:00.640 i mean his whole point was that a the goal of a civilization is to uh to manifest his free will

00:37:08.840 this augustinian free will we talked about earlier it's a sort of destiny not destiny in its you know

00:37:15.420 strictly deterministic way but destiny as it's uh calling you could say it's calling in the world

00:37:22.300 it's uh telos it's angle and what you have in uh in storkism and this classical philosophy is the same

00:37:32.440 thing they are trying to achieve their angle within the confines of their particular civilization

00:37:38.020 spengler called this that the goal of the greek was to uh to become a living statue

00:37:45.040 to to to um do the great pose so to speak and we can see for example the dramatic story of

00:37:54.240 the roman general uh what was his name again regulus when he was uh captured by the carthageneans

00:38:02.840 he was sent to uh the senate uh he was freed and sent to the senate on the condition that he would

00:38:10.700 tell them to uh to surrender essentially to to to stop the fighting to make peace with the carthage

00:38:17.860 now this general said that you should not make peace with them this is a bad offer you should keep

00:38:24.460 fighting and you should crush the carthageneans and rome did so but regulus returned to his captives

00:38:30.420 and he was tortured and he died but he was moral he fulfilled his great pose

00:38:36.880 and that he became a legend we still talk about him to this day and this really really shows

00:38:46.860 the the the contrast to the modern modern mentality of most comfort to most people

00:38:53.500 most hedonism to most people perfect example and we we shouldn't really be surprised when we end up

00:39:00.280 with three-year-old transsexuals yeah and that's the thing is well we get back to it one of the things

00:39:09.000 that i really really really tried to emphasize on mysterium is that your theology okay um your high

00:39:15.760 philosophy your metaphysics determines your entire life and it determines your civilization

00:39:20.580 civilization because these are the logic right the logoi the cosmic order around which your entire

00:39:28.980 civilization is built so flaws in these most fundamental uh principles affect everything

00:39:36.000 okay this is the maximum theology lex arendi lex credendi lex vivendi the law of prayers the law of belief

00:39:44.240 is the law of life they determine each other this is why theology is critical go on doc uh or more

00:39:54.480 simply ideas have consequences truly all right and so this is basically what we're trying to say is

00:40:01.720 examine your presuppositions okay you know big shout out to jay dyer hopefully we'll be able to get

00:40:08.320 him on the show he's done a lot of great work as far as this goes i definitely recommend you guys

00:40:12.380 go check out uh jaysanalysis.com you know he's got many many different things he's a friend of uh

00:40:17.920 rafael johnson so hopefully we'll be able to get the pair of them on together that would be an

00:40:21.760 excellent show and back to the um back to back to the point so what happens when you have a serious

00:40:30.100 code of ethics is that the implementation of these ethics becomes your purpose it becomes the most

00:40:38.100 noble goal the successful implementation of a code of metaphysical ethics or what we'll call divine law

00:40:44.280 is called justice okay justice the whole reason why we do what we do is for justice that's why

00:40:58.120 we're national socialists that's why we're white nationalists that's why we care about our faith folk

00:41:05.660 and fatherland is because if we did not do these things it would be fundamentally unjust

00:41:12.160 this is our casus belli okay our reason why we need to make war on the forces of modernity in the

00:41:20.020 synagogue of satan until the end of the world it's our holy duty quite literally i'm not i'm not

00:41:27.340 exaggerating it's an extension of our duty to our neighbor right for christians love god and love thy

00:41:33.860 neighbor well god is just the fulfillment of his of his justice is right you know capital g good

00:41:41.500 true beautiful this is what life's all about

00:41:46.500 and so if we don't have a serious code of ethics we cannot claim that we're being just

00:41:52.560 because if we're not consistent where is justice that injustice is found in inconsistency in the

00:42:00.140 application of the law

00:42:01.300 what do you boys think

00:42:04.940 well uh if i could just i've been itching to say this for a bit so i'll just jump out there and say

00:42:12.560 it um so if we consider the nation as as an extended family then uh i think that every christian

00:42:20.540 properly has a duty to be a nationalist pure and simple i mean it's right there in the commandments

00:42:25.560 honor thy father and thy mother that commandment establishes the family as the principal uh order of

00:42:32.260 society right there so uh if you if you're a christian and you're not a nationalist uh you're doing it

00:42:37.880 wrong yeah it's true it's true look at the old testament right i mean it's right there that that stuff

00:42:45.900 doesn't go away because jesus christ died okay he said quite literally behold i have not come to

00:42:51.140 abrogate the law but to fulfill it the cosmic order implemented in the uh mosaic law of the old

00:42:59.280 testament right is god's prototype of this and so like they were clearly like they were national

00:43:05.300 socialists the ancient israelites they were nationalist in their uh organization okay ethnically

00:43:12.300 and they were socialist in their economic and political structures non-marxian obviously okay

00:43:18.600 that's another thing is national the socialism and national socialism is not marxism just in case

00:43:23.220 people were under the uh misconception that it was otherwise hans titus would you like to add

00:43:28.480 something well your point is essentially that uh jews were nazis before nazis were so to speak

00:43:35.480 indeed and when they rejected christ yes when they rejected christ they became the enemies of all

00:43:40.340 national socialists everywhere exactly exactly and that's the beauty of it titus i mean they're

00:43:45.500 jealous they're jealous yes because they see something beautiful and they want to ruin it they

00:43:50.520 want to destroy it they want to drag it down to their level that's what they're all about well i was i was

00:43:56.700 just going to uh to briefly mention the um sort of the the cosmic or metaphysical sort of you know

00:44:04.280 view of justice uh implemented um in a society um that is you know rigorously defined um is a manifestation

00:44:14.600 of of the divine will and a just society a truly just society is a society that is unsurprisingly

00:44:22.660 healthy and natural and and life-affirming so it it is and that sort of you know that that sort of cuts

00:44:30.200 cuts down any sort of moral relativism it cuts down certainly utilitarian ethics because you have

00:44:36.660 something that is that sort of transcends sort of you know the metaphysical realm and and enters

00:44:42.900 you know um government you know or governance well yes indeed and we can see this even in the roman

00:44:49.620 state apparatus where there was not a distinction between religion and the state they were fused together

00:44:54.900 i mean the like the pontiff pontifex maximus of rome was a political office

00:45:00.900 okay so i mean we this this is very much the mentality of ancient and classical civilization

00:45:08.660 and so i mean if we're going to have pretenses to be the bearers of western civilization i mean we're

00:45:16.120 the bearers of the roman civilized you know the roman tradition okay at least in some part obviously

00:45:21.200 western europe we're part of a synthesis an organic combination of the roman and the germanic

00:45:27.700 traditions and civilizations you could call this flavianism right this is why we speak english

00:45:34.540 it's a germanic language right with with norman french layered on top of it vikings who adopted

00:45:43.720 frankish civilization who were the progenitors of this model this is what the feudal the medieval

00:45:49.640 synthesis is all about right is the perfect balance of roman and germanic civilizations and

00:45:56.140 folkways that's who we are now and getting sorry please go ahead there's one uh one more thing

00:46:05.700 actually um it ties to spangler again when you abandon the national idea uh the the sort of

00:46:11.680 telos of the nation you're literally to rot away and even if you try to change this into something else

00:46:17.640 you'll never be as great in this as the nation who has this uh this angle this tendons this uh this

00:46:24.080 will this destiny uh naturally so spangler wrote for example that germans can't really match the

00:46:32.380 angles in uh being merchant because the germans simply aren't merchants as a civilization they're uh

00:46:39.380 they're soldiers they're warriors they're they're farmers they expand on land the anglos expand at sea

00:46:44.940 and this also ties into what hitler wrote that he he wanted the the anglos to uh to have their empire

00:46:53.780 to to still be this colonial power this trading power while the germans were going to expand eastward

00:47:01.760 now obviously that didn't succeed but uh that was what he uh he uh thought and i don't think this was

00:47:09.900 some uh some lie or some pretense i think he actually uh held this uh opinion so do i now

00:47:17.840 what happens when we implement justice and we achieve an orderly society right if justice is the victory

00:47:25.260 of the cosmic order what happens after justice is implemented there's peace with a capital p now peace

00:47:32.220 is another one of these english words which has been so horribly twisted into form by the jews

00:47:36.700 that it no longer has any meaning from the latin pax pax simply means victory of the cosmic order

00:47:45.920 it's the tranquility of harmony to quote saint augustine

00:47:49.580 now um this is basically what why we're fighting is because without justice there can be no peace

00:47:58.020 and that's what we desire ultimately not war but peace true peace conformity to the cosmic order

00:48:04.640 harmony among all of the elements of creation you finally beat your passions on the individual level

00:48:13.120 this is what peace of the soul means it's when it's when the higher parts of yourself overcome the animal

00:48:19.140 parts of yourself but just as the the the nation is a corporate individual these same principles apply

00:48:26.820 there as well when the irrationality the the passions of the the country are channeled and subjected into

00:48:35.040 virtue the vices are transmuted into virtue by grace we achieve peace every element functions well together

00:48:44.080 that's what national socialism is all about class collaboration the organic society something that

00:48:50.460 conforms to the cosmic order this is what we're talking about now please titus or doc would one of you like

00:48:55.860 to comment

00:48:56.260 go ahead doc go ahead uh yeah so um uh the the this is uh so important so important um i love this conversation

00:49:10.480 so peace peace is as we say uh just order right now this just order this peace does not create itself

00:49:20.400 does not sustain itself this peace requires us as individuals and as collectives to constantly

00:49:28.500 struggle for its maintenance right this is the outer crusade if you will this is the lesser crusade

00:49:35.120 um this is what uh our our manly warrior spirituality is all about is the creation and maintenance of this

00:49:45.540 just order and uh as a as a matter of simple definition uh the way i like to think about justice

00:49:52.520 ultimately is um giving that which is owed to whom it is owed and um giving to your superior what you owe him

00:50:03.980 and giving to your inferior what you owe him uh and uh i'll go ahead and step back and let someone else go ahead

00:50:11.140 well that was that was very similar to um socrates definition of justice which is that each part of

00:50:18.740 society plays its proper role and and in that form of justice you have harmony which is exactly what

00:50:26.580 we're speaking about where you know in harmony you have tranquility and through tranquility we have

00:50:30.600 peace you have a prosperous safe and healthy society exactly this is the goal if you've read this

00:50:37.020 that's sorry hans please go each each body part has its rightful place within the body of christ you

00:50:43.180 could also say that's another good analogy yes titus um you know i mean i listen to every one of your

00:50:47.580 republic lectures and any of our listeners who have not read the republic go read it it's the single most

00:50:54.200 important um piece of political science ever written but if they don't want to actually read it they can

00:51:00.240 listen to the excellent uh 10 part series that kulturkampff did very long but it's a great discussion

00:51:06.120 and that's what plato quite uh explicitly says the goal of the republic is a just society

00:51:12.040 is justice so that's what we're all about and once we have justice there will be peace but we cannot

00:51:20.000 obtain justice without conflict that is the nature of our existence on this earth that there are forces

00:51:28.860 of injustice irrationality death evil that are about in the world that need to be fought and subdued both

00:51:37.360 in ourselves primarily firstly that is our duty to subvert the evil within ourselves kill the inner jew if

00:51:43.580 you'd like and then it's to destroy those without and this is what evola writes about this in the

00:51:49.660 metaphysics of war you guys need to go read that where the the greater jihad or the greater crusade is the

00:51:55.180 interior one against your own irrationality and your own passions to establish the reign of the

00:52:00.700 cosmic order within you this is what internal peace is all about all of the great warrior traditions

00:52:08.540 understood this bushido you can see it conspicuously but this is what christianity is about this is the

00:52:14.680 goal of monasticism is the reign of the kingdom of god within you this is what our lord means

00:52:21.080 because the kingdom of god is peaceful but you'll note that before the kingdom of god arrives

00:52:27.220 physically on earth in the eschaton our lord comes back on the white horse sword in hand and the wine

00:52:33.000 press of god's wrath the blood comes out so high up to the horse's bridle for 200 miles around the

00:52:39.760 throne of judgment so truly i mean this this justice this peace this immanentization of the eschaton or the

00:52:47.600 cosmic order cannot occur without conflict and ultimately violence that's the nature of our

00:52:52.880 struggle and so holy violence pure violence is one that is fully detached from the ego it's not done

00:53:00.900 for yourself it's not done for your economic mode it's not done for social clout it's not done for

00:53:05.800 territorial expansion or physical good but it's done for metaphysical reasons for justice for god

00:53:11.060 that's what the crusade is about that's what holy warfare is about jihad however you want to

00:53:17.660 conceptualize it violence and action totally removed from your own ego and uh yeah i took some notes uh

00:53:26.260 about this in preparation so you see this established uh essentially completely by the 11th century in

00:53:34.140 medieval europe you have the concept of the peace intrusive god or the pax day and this this is

00:53:40.980 a series of public oath swearings by the great lords uh starting of course in the frankish kingdoms

00:53:47.420 and expanding outwards uh limiting um private warfare limiting feuds and uh this concept then links up of

00:53:57.320 course with the crusade uh to to channel the um uh the warrior spirit of uh uh the the landed nobility

00:54:08.420 of europe away from internal violence uh away from disorder and towards uh external violence to the uh

00:54:16.620 the other who threatens the order of europe and um uh personally as a medievalist a convinced medievalist

00:54:24.380 uh i think this is the the special ingredient that we're missing today 100 this is just what i was

00:54:33.140 going to talk about um you know so all you guys who wonder how islam can be so successful and beat the

00:54:40.560 shit out of us it's because primitive though they are they figured out how to do this and never lost it

00:54:46.040 but we in the west have been subverted by liberalism by modernism by materialism our civilization was so

00:54:54.580 successful that the comforts of a bourgeois life and of modernity eclipse the need for justice the

00:55:02.040 hardship and struggle of a serious code of ethics because ethics is not necessarily fun but it's good

00:55:09.480 with a capital g by definition yeah and so you guys would want to want to recover our civilization

00:55:18.840 start by recovering it inside of you adopt a serious code of personal ethics i mean what we have now

00:55:27.060 with this this pure invasion that we see now in a way it's it's a punishment it's not the it's not

00:55:34.420 it doesn't mean that we that god is dead it doesn't mean anything like that if anything it means that

00:55:41.120 god's alive because he punishes us he gives us what we are merited we deserve it

00:55:46.920 yeah this is something i use a justin trudeau is proof of god's existence because he's exactly

00:55:55.200 what the nation of canada voted for and deserves a purely democratic prime minister yeah and and

00:56:01.180 there there is a part in dante's inferno which is uh which really really strikes me and stuck with

00:56:06.760 me it's where uh dante sees all these these legions and legions and legions of uh damned people

00:56:14.300 entering the gates of uh hades of hell and they they willingly walk there because they realize that

00:56:22.700 they have acted in such a way in their life that they deserve what comes and they accept it they

00:56:29.680 surrender themselves to their fate and when you think about it we can find god in our punishment

00:56:37.080 and that kind of make us make us happy not in this message pervert the message this way but in a way

00:56:44.300 that we realize that god is still with us and and we we should snap out of this shit there's also

00:56:49.560 a part from crime and punishment by dostoevsky now i'm going to spoil spoil the book a bit here so

00:56:58.480 if you don't want to spoil 150 years too late okay wow okay yeah spoiler warning boys yeah spoiler

00:57:05.000 warning um in the end when um when raskolnikov the the main character is sentenced for his murder

00:57:12.600 he uh goes to a a sabirian camp he's exiled to a sabirian camp and he finally gets this release

00:57:23.300 because his murder had tortured him for days and days and days for weeks or however the entire book

00:57:31.540 he was tortured by his conscience throughout the book and when he finally gets the punishment he

00:57:37.800 deserved and surrendered himself to it he finally found peace he even found happiness

00:57:42.140 so while he was subjected to hard labor in the sabirian camp he was happy because he realized he

00:57:49.220 the sabids yeah and you know and it's uh esoteric hitlerists and other guys like that sometimes tell

00:57:57.180 me that i just don't have the moral courage to be able to bayonet pregnant african women or to

00:58:05.020 liquidate every non-white on the planet because i will not get in the b-52 and uh you know drop

00:58:12.460 cluster bombs of white phosphorus on civilian populations in africa right i'm a coward morally

00:58:18.640 christians are cowards morally but i mean a true example of moral courage is accepting what is good

00:58:25.560 and right even if it inconveniences you and these are examples of exactly the opposite these would be

00:58:33.860 highly convenient solutions to our problems if we could just kill everybody who causes us who

00:58:39.160 maybe who is inferior i mean you know but that would that would be really convenient being real nice we

00:58:44.860 only have to do it once right well i i think that position is ultimately self-defeating because you

00:58:50.040 know who it was in the second world war that rejected the strategic doctrine of uh of mass

00:58:56.340 indiscriminate bombing it was the germans germany oh hold on doc are you telling me that the raf

00:59:03.820 mercilessly firebombed germany and pioneered the doctrine of mass bombardment of civilian centers

00:59:08.620 the american air corps too or is that what you're trying to say uh yeah that's the that is the

00:59:13.880 corrupted uh shall i say talmudic uh and eternal anglo way of war is just if you can't beat them on the

00:59:21.640 battlefield burn their civilians yeah and there is a horrific detail about these fire bombings that i

00:59:29.360 don't think many people know uh the british they they bombed during the night and the americans they

00:59:35.160 bomb during the day so they couldn't help anyone that was stuck in the rubble they they literally

00:59:41.680 all died if you if you were stuck there you you get you you died you died that's it you died you

00:59:46.900 could not be saved because the bombs kept falling and kept falling and kept falling so there was no

00:59:51.220 no no chance to to even try to save people to to to uh to extinguish the fires anything like that

00:59:58.680 there's a very good documentary on this called the firestorm uh about the bombing of dresden

01:00:04.200 i've never seen it but i've personally been told it's highly highly disturbing i mean if you know

01:00:10.140 anything about what happened in dresden i mean i'll just recount basically the british specifically

01:00:16.720 and on purpose with full knowledge and intention uh tracked the wind patterns around the city of

01:00:23.000 dresden and dropped enough incendiary explosives to purposefully create a firestorm where there was fire

01:00:29.940 that lingered in the air for days at a time and swept through the city and annihilated everything

01:00:34.780 within it they did that on purpose knowing exactly what would happen knowing it would liquidate the

01:00:39.000 civilian population and it and it was a sanctuary city as well we have to uh have to always say that

01:00:45.040 for those who don't know uh about the destruction of dresden uh david irving uh his his excellent book

01:00:50.500 the destruction of dresden is also a uh a necessary read very uh very difficult to read though

01:00:54.960 yeah as an as a note um there really was a holocaust and it happened to germans

01:01:01.540 yeah and no wonder they couldn't uh feed the pow's in the camp when they the british bombed the railways

01:01:11.000 indeed so i i would like to circle back a little bit to dante uh one of my favorite uh poets and

01:01:20.240 great thinkers of uh of that era um think i think it deserves to be said that uh dante is a very

01:01:27.860 interesting not only um uh poet and not only as a uh thinker about um about otherworldly transcendental

01:01:39.660 things but also about worldly things uh dante himself started out as um what was called a guelph

01:01:47.340 a supporter of the absolute monarchy of the pope uh and an enemy of the rights of the emperor but

01:01:55.200 it was his experience in the cutthroat world of vatican politics that eventually turned him into a

01:02:02.260 pro-imperial figure pro-imperial thinker a uh a ghiblin as it was called and uh the inferno actually is

01:02:11.340 a um a pro-imperial book it actually places uh uh at least one pope maybe more uh i don't recall at

01:02:21.900 the moment uh in hell uh specifically because of their unjust war against the uh the emperor right

01:02:29.820 well and this has always been the theology of the eastern orthodox i mean and we see this in the

01:02:35.180 symphonya in this is the eastern roman imperial model is that there's the two-headed eagle one is

01:02:41.700 the emperor and one is the church is that the imperial government acts as the the extension to

01:02:48.080 secure the justice and protection of christendom the reason that um now there are certainly this is

01:02:54.100 the fundament this is the baseline you know there are critiques and there are flaws and there are

01:02:57.800 of course disadvantages to this system but we can see here okay examples of this actualized in

01:03:03.780 reality you know and this is something i mean you come back to oh christianity is christianity is

01:03:07.640 too weak to support european civilization it just makes me laugh i mean just just like look at history

01:03:14.320 boys just look at the the eastern world empire the byzantine empire you know i mean you know some

01:03:19.960 people come they say oh florian florian you're you're always beating up in these pagans you're always

01:03:24.680 you know getting mad at these guys well like these are the guys who actually like seriously oppose us

01:03:28.420 it's the pagans and the guys who are kind of more in that kind of racialist folk religionist camp not

01:03:33.580 all of them of course but this is where a lot of them come from you know and then the kind of

01:03:37.680 racist liberal faggotry camp those are the two streams of opposition that we run into

01:03:42.120 now hey i get it i love folk religion i love my people i love the cycle of the seasons but you know

01:03:51.500 what traditional christianity has all of that we have uh we we have veneration of our ancestors we have

01:03:58.720 praying for the dead we have liturgical seasons we have harvest and sowing we have all of it

01:04:06.060 yeah and and going back to the the concept of the symphony um the thing about this idea that the

01:04:16.120 the pope should be the leader of all the the absolute uh uh leader so to speak i mean this this

01:04:25.140 isn't caesar papism this is papal caesarism this is i mean what happens here is that the clergy is

01:04:32.920 being subverted it the the clergy will become a political force not a a uh a clerical force a

01:04:42.560 political force we see this with the jesuits in the counter-reformation right and i mean you know

01:04:48.000 this is this is where the critiques of the jesuits come from is because they completely transcend

01:04:52.840 their role as spiritual agents and become temporal political agents they become neither

01:04:58.540 right they become neither they become a specter a shade they are they are not clerical because they

01:05:07.700 have this desire for power power power power for power's sake they do not care about their their

01:05:12.720 divine duty to direct this power towards god they don't care about that they care about power

01:05:18.940 and you know and i would just to be fair the jesuits there are a lot of very very good jesuits

01:05:24.040 i mean especially especially the early jesuits you know we look at saint francis xavier um the

01:05:29.200 canadian martyr john le play boeuf i mean these guys didn't were incredible incredible people

01:05:32.960 and i'm talking i'm talking about this this uh papal caesarisman of course sorry i just wanted to

01:05:38.520 make the qualification and you know yeah you define it though and then you you should you should not

01:05:45.520 be surprised when you you go you got all this simony and all these uh indulgences that happened

01:05:51.020 in germany right before luther if you give this church that much temporal power that is what will

01:05:57.820 happen you will not become a bishop or a priest because you have uh have that as a calling you'll

01:06:04.500 become it because you want power and we can even see that in uh in sweden now i mean the church

01:06:11.240 so-called church leaders here i mean the the swedish church is a joke but the the church leaders here

01:06:17.120 are do not care at all about theology they care about having a fight a title they care about title

01:06:24.580 they care about power they care about influence they care about a fat salary now there's something

01:06:30.460 pretty interesting here i saw that a lutheran bishop in sweden gets roughly 60 or 80 000 kronor

01:06:38.960 that's like uh 8 000 per month per month and i i took a quick look on how much a catholic priest gets

01:06:49.000 in sweden and that was roughly 10 000 kronor uh one-eighth of it this is insane

01:07:02.460 that sort of that sort of um politicking of of religious institutions also opens it up

01:07:12.360 for infiltration as well you know this is this is you know how how sort of modern uh church

01:07:19.100 institutions says have have fallen to leftism and liberalism is that is that they they play the

01:07:23.480 power game and then you know it's it's a two-way street exactly all right guys we've gotten to the

01:07:30.100 end of our first hour but i think this was a very very good discussion a lot of really necessary

01:07:35.260 work to be done here i mean we could talk on the subject all day but i think we laid out the

01:07:38.980 principles for everybody so after we get back from the break we're going to be discussing some

01:07:43.180 examples of ethics and practice we're going to be talking about imperialism versus nationalism

01:07:47.520 we're going to do the cali of the news so stay tuned

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01:09:06.780 One more time, aria drzka

01:09:09.780 One more time, aria drzka

01:09:36.780 Treće armija, najjača na svetu

01:09:43.780 Treće armija, u osvetu jednom za uvek

01:09:47.780 Armija srčka jednom za uvek

01:09:50.780 Sveće zava smrska

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01:09:55.780 Treće armija, u osvetu jednom za uvek

01:09:59.780 Armija srčka jednom za uvek

01:10:02.780 Sveće zava smrska

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01:13:35.740 James says in Holy Scripture.

01:13:38.860 And so, you know, and actually James makes a perfect case for this in that, you know, you can't have works without faith, right?

01:13:48.960 But faith without works is dead, right?

01:13:51.720 So fundamentally, if you don't have the metaphysical framework or the ethical framework, well, you know, you're not even going to be able to do serious, you know, ethical and virtuous action.

01:14:01.220 But if you don't actually do the ethical and virtuous action, you know, your framework doesn't mean anything.

01:14:06.740 So one of the things that I noticed was that, and this was particularly prevalent opinion over at TRS, especially coming from like, you know, the death panel and other guys who were, you know, more, you know, they were materialists, you know, we call racist liberalism.

01:14:24.020 You know, is this idea that, you know, the GOP is what they have.

01:14:27.440 This is the context that we frame it in.

01:14:28.940 You know, we need to abandon these cultural issues, these morality issues like abortion and homosex, right?

01:14:33.880 They didn't like them, but they thought that it was an important thing to kind of press home on, that what we needed to focus on was, you know, the border security and economics and stuff like that.

01:14:42.960 And that the, you know, appealing to these hot button issues of abortion and gay marriage were like distractions essentially from our overall political goals.

01:14:51.600 Because, you know, you probably guessed that I disagree.

01:14:56.280 I disagree very, very strongly.

01:14:58.760 And I think that it's, in fact, most of the voters do as well, right?

01:15:03.500 There's a very, very many people insist upon these.

01:15:07.600 These are serious, huge issues for, you know, common everyday people, you know, abortion and, you know, faggotry.

01:15:14.000 Because these are fundamentally moral questions.

01:15:17.120 They're spiritual questions.

01:15:18.120 They cut to the heart of anybody with a serious ethical system.

01:15:21.300 And so we're going to go into each one case by case and kind of talk about how this interfaces.

01:15:25.660 Anybody else want to make any comments before we begin?

01:15:27.440 So border security and prevention of economic migration is a matter of justice, right?

01:15:39.640 We owe it to our own not to dilute their wages, right?

01:15:45.520 I mean, cheating the worker of his just wages is one of the sins that cries out to heaven for vengeance, right?

01:15:53.080 Just like so.

01:15:53.620 So this is a matter of justice, but so is, so are abortion and sodomy matters of justice, right?

01:16:04.000 And that's why the other sins that cry out to heaven for justice are murder and sodomy.

01:16:10.080 Right.

01:16:10.520 And then there's its defrauding workers of their wages and oppression of the poor, oppression of the powerless.

01:16:17.840 Those being poor sins.

01:16:18.820 Yeah, I think that we should all, we including the listeners, keep in mind that, you know, we are still firmly within the realm of justice as we begin this discussion.

01:16:30.780 Indeed, indeed.

01:16:32.460 So let's go into abortion.

01:16:33.920 So basically, the position that I see a lot, okay, very common, you know, goes a little something like this.

01:16:45.640 I don't like abortion.

01:16:48.180 Definitely white people shouldn't be getting it, but we need abortion in order to engage in eugenics and in order to quell the black populations.

01:16:55.400 And so in those instances, I'm very pro-abortion.

01:16:59.280 That would be the position of, like, a lot of people on the alt-right.

01:17:02.780 I mean, that's a fairly common position.

01:17:05.760 And so, you know, there's also a lot of people who are very, very strongly against abortion.

01:17:10.320 And so the ethical case against abortion is very simple.

01:17:12.660 So it's that when you kill somebody, okay, for it to be a legitimate killing, you have to have just cause.

01:17:21.100 There has to be an ethical reason for you to do so.

01:17:24.060 It requires justification, right, to make the act just.

01:17:26.640 It's literally what justification means.

01:17:28.840 And so a child in the womb under no circumstances can bear guilt for a crime.

01:17:34.700 They are a priori prima facie innocent, the most innocent.

01:17:40.000 They're not even born, right?

01:17:42.820 And so to kill a child in the womb whose life begins at conception is murder, plain and simple.

01:17:52.960 And so for people who actually, like, believe that you need an ethical justification to kill somebody, right,

01:17:58.940 then, like, murder for 99% of serious ethicists – or abortion, excuse me, for 99% of serious ethicists is murder.

01:18:05.700 Right?

01:18:06.820 That's very simple.

01:18:08.320 And so it's like if you actually have a serious code of ethics which says that murder is impermissible,

01:18:11.980 then you need to be consistent in your application.

01:18:14.820 If you don't have a serious code of ethics, well, then you can do whatever you want.

01:18:17.160 We get back to the problem of utilitarian morality.

01:18:22.000 And so that's why we, you know, for us, like, on the Christian right, but even people on the traditional right,

01:18:28.060 like, abortion is such a big deal because it's murder, right?

01:18:32.080 It's large-scale ritual murder of infants, the most innocent people in our society.

01:18:39.040 It's the worst murder that is, in fact, possible.

01:18:41.940 It's a perversion of all the good because not only is this person as innocent as one could possibly be when they face murder, right,

01:18:48.740 but the very vessel that's supposed to become the life-giver becomes a graveyard.

01:18:54.740 The very purpose of biology, the female reproductive system, to bear and carry children to term, is put on its head.

01:19:02.700 It's inverted, completely diametrically opposed to the cosmic order.

01:19:07.660 This is what we mean when we say satanic.

01:19:10.180 It's a technical term, total inversion of the cosmic order.

01:19:13.560 That's what Satan is.

01:19:14.500 That's what say something to be satanic, specifically speaking, is.

01:19:18.220 Okay?

01:19:18.660 That's why murder is a sin which cries out to heaven for vengeance, just like sodomy, as we're going to get into in a minute.

01:19:24.060 I want to open it up for discussion.

01:19:25.220 What do you boys think?

01:19:25.700 Yeah, I agree fully.

01:19:29.300 And if you would punish these people, even if you, let's say, you would have a death penalty for a doctor that makes abortion,

01:19:38.380 we wouldn't be the ones who would commit murder.

01:19:41.300 That's not murder to punish someone, even with death, because they know very well the punishment that they will get.

01:19:48.540 But they keep doing it.

01:19:49.920 Therefore, they have condemned themselves to the death they would be judged to by the justice system.

01:19:54.500 This is actually an interesting caveat.

01:19:57.860 Hold on, Hans.

01:20:00.060 On the Ten Commandments, okay, the precept, thou shalt not murder, is commonly translated into English as thou shalt not kill.

01:20:09.200 This is a horrible mistranslation in my personal opinion.

01:20:12.380 The word is murder.

01:20:13.740 In Hebrew, it specifically means an unlawful or an unjust killing.

01:20:17.880 That's the word that's used.

01:20:19.600 Thou shalt not murder.

01:20:21.200 Exactly, that was what I'm going to go to.

01:20:25.080 And even Augustine wrote that he who holds the sword holds it for a reason, and therefore he has the right to punish people who break the law he has created within the confines of the people he must give order to, give law to.

01:20:47.920 So, if these people break this just law, then they shouldn't whine when they get punished.

01:20:53.700 They should embrace the punishment.

01:20:55.160 And there was even a saint of this.

01:21:00.040 I think it was a French saint.

01:21:02.080 And what this saint did was that he would go to cells of people being convicted to be executed and all this stuff.

01:21:12.320 And he would basically make them offer themselves up to God, making them realize that the execution they were about to be a victim of is just.

01:21:28.540 And they would find God in embracing this punishment.

01:21:33.320 And he became a saint for making these murderers and these people realize it.

01:21:38.880 Just like how the bandits next to Christ joined them in paradise.

01:21:45.800 As you say, Titus, I want to hear your perspective on this.

01:21:53.180 As you've said accurately, Florian, abortion is purely just an antithesis of nature.

01:22:08.260 It is, as you said accurately, a satanic because it is a complete and total inversion of natural, you know, what occurs when, excuse me, sorry about this.

01:22:30.200 A complete inversion of natural law.

01:22:32.520 Yeah, a complete inversion of natural law.

01:22:34.160 Forgive me.

01:22:34.580 For a very long time, I've actually had sort of the, held the opinions that you sort of chided in that it is a, we would rather you can justify it because, you know, they are.

01:22:55.540 Nigger death.

01:22:56.060 Yeah, nigger death, exactly.

01:22:57.560 But it is, it is pre-crime as a way.

01:23:04.260 You know, I don't know if you ever read the book Minority Report, but you're sentencing someone, you're sentencing a child who has not done anything wrong, who does not deserve any sort of heinous, heinous act held against him.

01:23:22.680 And it really is a, it really is, it's a very cruel and a very barbaric way of dealing with the situation.

01:23:35.700 And the situation doesn't, it doesn't help.

01:23:41.180 Abortion doesn't make things better.

01:23:43.760 It doesn't make things better for us because we are arguing in very morally and very murky water in terms of, in terms of morality.

01:23:53.160 And it doesn't help the African-American community.

01:23:56.800 As we've seen, the African-American community has suffered greatly in terms of dysgenics because it has had a terrible effect on them.

01:24:08.560 And they've gotten worse because of it.

01:24:10.580 Yeah, indeed.

01:24:13.720 And because that's, this is actually an interesting sociological phenomenon is that those who are most likely to procure abortions, you know, I mean, what happens is abortion is dysgenic.

01:24:22.940 Okay, because it, just like birth control, um, people who are more responsible tend to get them.

01:24:32.400 Okay.

01:24:32.980 And I mean, going to the, okay, the Africans, okay, like, listen, we're going to get into this in a little bit, but because this basically, actually, you know what, we'll get into it now because this is the kind of segue tie in it.

01:24:42.840 This, this, the whole fundamental ideological dichotomy between imperialism and nationalism.

01:24:50.200 They are opposites, in fact.

01:24:51.820 Okay, when we're saying imperialism, we don't mean imperialism in the sense of, like, the Roman Empire, like Imperium, although they did do this.

01:25:00.260 We mean imperialism in, like, the sense that you think about it, right?

01:25:03.420 Going off to conquer other people, right, enslave their, their women and children, right, and take their shit, right, classic imperialism.

01:25:11.680 This is diametrically opposed to nationalism if you have consistent political ethics.

01:25:18.480 Nationalism is the idea that all people, all organically, or all organic peoples, right, ought to be sovereign and self-governing.

01:25:28.100 And that they are, you know, corporate persons, and that it's illegitimate to deprive them of their right to self-governance.

01:25:37.280 It's unjust to do so.

01:25:41.020 You cannot be a nationalist and imperialist because you have no ethical ground to stand upon.

01:25:48.640 Your ethic, you engage in inconsistent ethics.

01:25:51.200 And that's the thing, and it's like, if you're going to say that, well, you know, and this is my, one of my critiques of National Socialist Germany is it was an imperial state.

01:25:59.680 That's true.

01:26:00.720 And I think that this was a hypocrisy, you know, and I mean, I think Adolf Hitler was one of the greatest political leaders ever to live.

01:26:06.100 He's out there with Alexander, you know, Octavian Caesar, right, Justinian.

01:26:12.020 But he was unperfect, nor was Constantine or Justinian or Caesar perfect.

01:26:18.720 But I digress.

01:26:20.000 And so this is the dichotomy, you know.

01:26:22.340 And so it's just like I'm a national socialist.

01:26:29.600 And the first word there is national.

01:26:31.720 I'm a nationalist first and foremost.

01:26:34.100 You know, I'm not interested in what I just described in imperialism.

01:26:38.360 I'm interested in the sovereign reign of my own people in their own homelands.

01:26:43.040 Now, you know, this, I want to make a little caveat here, and then I'm going to open it up for discussion.

01:26:48.060 This is a rhetorically a weaker position.

01:26:52.180 Okay.

01:26:52.740 So for that reason, some propagandists, especially like Andrew Anglin is a good example, they will, you know, play up the rhetorically stronger.

01:26:59.740 Or, you know, we're going to go fucking Warhammer 40k, conquer them, Imperium, that kind of shit.

01:27:05.120 All right.

01:27:05.640 But, you know, that's mostly propaganda.

01:27:13.000 If I may, sir.

01:27:14.840 Certainly.

01:27:16.160 I think it does need to be said that we do need to, I believe, personally, make a distinction between what you describe as imperialism and true imperium, right?

01:27:30.440 And the way I would describe a true imperium is that just as within the nation, you have a just order between the individuals and the corporate organs, which those individuals are joined in, into a complete corporate person.

01:27:54.440 That describes the entire nation, right?

01:27:58.600 Just as you have this microcosm and macrocosm describing a whole of the sum of the parts within the nation.

01:28:08.540 Within an imperium, you have the same thing where the nations comprise a sort of a civilizational imperium.

01:28:18.160 And within that imperium, there is, of course, a hierarchy.

01:28:21.700 You know, you can't have a chaos.

01:28:23.940 That would be unjust.

01:28:25.520 You know, there is an imperial center that establishes the tranquility of order, as we have previously described.

01:28:35.600 What this is not is, as you said, rank subjugation and, to put it grossly, killing them and taking their stuff.

01:28:52.720 That being said, in a conflict against an enemy of order, the spoil of the enemy would be forfeit.

01:29:02.940 And that would only be just.

01:29:04.280 And I think this is a very good distinction.

01:29:05.860 I was trying to get at it a little bit, but you said it much better than I did.

01:29:08.380 This is true.

01:29:09.300 I mean, even if you look at Thomistic Just War Doctrine, you know, like, monetary remunerations, okay, like, you know, are valid, like, valid, valid rent extraction when you win.

01:29:23.020 Like, you can, if you win in a just war, like, you can take their shit.

01:29:28.000 And if you're in a society that practices slavery, many times people are chattel.

01:29:32.940 Right?

01:29:33.480 They are considered to be the rightful spoils of war.

01:29:36.020 Now, I don't believe in slavery personally.

01:29:37.780 I believe in societies of free men and women.

01:29:41.340 So, I don't, you know, subscribe to that particular notion.

01:29:43.580 But in the ancient world, this was a common understanding.

01:29:46.680 So, good caveat, Doc.

01:29:47.840 Thank you.

01:29:49.080 Titus, Hans, would you like to comment?

01:29:50.520 Just a brief comment on the slavery there, because this is quite interesting, actually.

01:29:57.840 The reason why slavery was so popular in Roman times is not necessarily that the slaves were needed due to the force they can produce.

01:30:07.860 They were needed merely as bodies, bodies to be traded, as walking currency.

01:30:14.980 Because the problem was that they didn't have enough gold, they didn't have enough metals to give out enough coins.

01:30:22.740 So, what do they use then?

01:30:24.680 Well, they use slaves.

01:30:25.680 So, slaves were essentially the dollar bills of the ancient era.

01:30:28.860 Well, that's the thing.

01:30:31.800 It's actually because slaves are just, it's capital.

01:30:34.220 Like, it's labor capital.

01:30:35.240 Yeah, it is.

01:30:35.860 It is.

01:30:36.000 Right?

01:30:36.260 I mean, money is just a stand-in for labor.

01:30:38.940 Right?

01:30:39.380 We use it to buy labor and the fruits of it.

01:30:41.040 It's a slave.

01:30:41.620 It's like you're just cutting everything out.

01:30:43.420 It's the original international currency.

01:30:46.480 Yeah.

01:30:46.760 Although, Spengland made a bit of a distinction here between our view of slavery that is the force of the slave that it produces.

01:30:55.360 It's the sort of will to power that the slave produces for our game.

01:31:00.080 And the slave as a mere body.

01:31:02.540 So, this is in a way more dehumanizing in our perspective because the slave isn't even seen as a worker, as a force, but as a living, talking piece of coin.

01:31:16.460 And that is...

01:31:17.640 Precise, precise and astute hands.

01:31:19.560 Titus?

01:31:20.440 Well, just very briefly on Doc Savage's point.

01:31:23.400 In terms of just war, you know, the Greeks, when they had their, you know, when they weren't unified and when they were battling city-states, there was a belief that they, that was sort of agreed upon.

01:31:39.200 That they would be, that the way in which they would fight would be sort of determined by the foe that they were fighting.

01:31:48.520 So, a Greek city-state versus a Greek city-state would fight in a different way as, or sort of in contrast to a Greek city-state fighting a foreign power.

01:32:02.280 And I think that's something that I think, obviously, should be remembered for future events.

01:32:11.600 Yeah.

01:32:11.800 Absolutely.

01:32:12.420 And you see this, actually, in the medieval era as well.

01:32:15.240 There were different rules for if you're fighting a Christian power versus a Saracen power, for example.

01:32:21.480 Now, okay, humans being humans, right?

01:32:27.180 There were people who violated both the letter and spirit of, of these cultural understandings and even church, church rules.

01:32:38.960 But, for example, you have a great example of the crossbow.

01:32:44.840 You, in order to use a crossbow against a Christian enemy, you had to pay an indulgence, basically.

01:32:53.000 And I think, I think that, you know, there are just criticisms of the concept of indulgences, for example, especially when you're talking about giving an indulgence for using an unjust weapon against other Christians.

01:33:06.360 But, I think the principle stands that some weapons ought not to be used against an internal enemy.

01:33:15.840 This is a very good point, and this is something, actually, most recently, Tsar Nicholas II, St. Tsar Nicholas II, proposed these rules of war for European powers.

01:33:28.140 That they would limit the number of machine guns, limit the number of battleships in their naval arsenals.

01:33:35.840 They wouldn't use things like gas or flamethrowers on one another.

01:33:39.100 They wouldn't use incendiary devices on one another, right, to try and mitigate the cruelties of modern war.

01:33:45.860 They think about this, right?

01:33:47.780 This is medieval warfare, and they're saying, you know, they're saying, wow, well, the crossbow, that's an unjust weapon against another Christian.

01:33:53.620 You know, think about our current, you know, modern war, right?

01:33:59.080 Like, we can vaporize cities.

01:34:02.800 We can mass firebomb and have mass firebombed people, right?

01:34:08.100 We can destroy entire countries, right?

01:34:12.060 Burn them to death, literally immunitize hell.

01:34:17.240 The fire is hell.

01:34:18.100 There is a point in civilization's history where they abandon these organic laws of war, where all sort of actual, you know, chivalry in the battlefield disappears.

01:34:33.920 Spengler actually wrote about this as well.

01:34:35.500 And I love citing Spengler because he had so many good points.

01:34:39.040 It's insane.

01:34:40.240 Decline of the West is a goldmine, and I recommend you all to read it.

01:34:42.940 And this is manifested roughly when you get the Napoleon, the sort of Caesar.

01:34:52.000 The Caesar before the Caesar, rather.

01:34:54.660 The Alexander the Great.

01:34:56.180 Now, what did Alexander do?

01:34:58.660 Before he started to conquer Persia, the city of Thebes rebelled against him.

01:35:06.460 He had this union of Corinth, whatever it's called.

01:35:11.260 And what did Alexander do?

01:35:14.180 He destroyed the entire city.

01:35:16.860 Now, the Greeks identified themselves very, very much with the police, the city.

01:35:22.440 So, what this was, was essentially a genocide of a whole people.

01:35:28.140 And Alexander, he kept conquering, conquering, conquering.

01:35:32.280 And he became the conqueror he was because he ignored these morals, these laws of war, Spengler said.

01:35:40.440 Likewise, with Napoleon, you have Lévi-Mas, you have the mobilization of the masses against everyone else.

01:35:51.520 And it was so successful.

01:35:55.100 What happened?

01:35:55.820 He reached Moscow.

01:35:58.480 From Paris to Moscow.

01:36:00.580 Then, ironically, Moscow reached Paris.

01:36:03.680 And we can see the same thing in World War II.

01:36:06.280 I mean, Hitler was at the gates of Moscow before the Russians came back at Berlin.

01:36:11.540 But, anyway, you can really see that this is not really anything new.

01:36:16.080 It's happened before and will probably happen again.

01:36:20.660 Likely.

01:36:21.400 No, I think that it's good to address this problem.

01:36:24.700 I think that's an excellent caveat.

01:36:26.520 Now, we're going to get into our second actualization of the ethical code, sodomy.

01:36:30.220 Now, if you've listened to my Nationalist Review online episode, Sodomy, Usury, and the Alt-Right, although it seems to have been taken on from SoundCloud, you can still find it on YouTube.

01:36:38.780 You'll be able to get a more in-depth discussion of this.

01:36:41.880 However, it would be good to just rehash it briefly here.

01:36:45.040 So, one of the things that I've been pretty consistent on and what a lot of guys in the far right have been pretty consistent on from the traditionals camp is that, you know, no sodomy.

01:36:55.040 So, an opposition to sodomy and gay marriage.

01:36:59.080 And so, we've always maintained that, excuse me, I've got some tobacco in my mouth, that sodomites and people who agitate for the inclusion of sodomites should be ostracized and not allowed in.

01:37:13.820 Okay, this is why Iron March, as a good example, was so harshly critical against Millennial Woes, Greg Johnson, and Richard Spencer.

01:37:24.060 The first two, because they were, like, homos, okay?

01:37:28.960 And Richard Spencer, because he was not a homo, he's not, he's not gay, he's very implicit, right?

01:37:34.700 But he agitated for the inclusion of homosexuality, right?

01:37:37.920 Or certainly was soft on the question.

01:37:40.360 And so, the reason why, I mean, we, you know, I guess I'll give a basic moral argument and then I'll open it back up to the discussion.

01:37:47.220 The basic moral argument why sodomy is wrong is it's like this, okay?

01:37:50.340 Okay, the telos, the end, the purpose of sex is reproduction, okay?

01:37:57.700 It's not just reproductive, it's also unitive.

01:38:00.700 But it's both of these things at the same time.

01:38:02.820 It's unitive and reproductive.

01:38:04.500 So, it brings the man and the woman together into a mystical union, a single body, one flesh, right?

01:38:11.000 And out of this unity comes synthesis, new life.

01:38:16.400 This is why, for Christians, marriage is a sacrament.

01:38:19.800 It's a holy mystery.

01:38:21.300 Because marriage is based around this marital act, sexual intercourse.

01:38:24.780 And this unity and synthesis produces new life and furthers the species.

01:38:29.800 If you're a, you know, a Darwinist, well, of course, procreation is the most important biological function that we receive.

01:38:36.120 So, it's probably a good idea that if we're going to have a consistent code of ethics, our most important and critical biological power, the ability to generate a new life, should be regulated, should be ordered, okay?

01:38:50.860 So, with sodomy, we see the total and complete inversion of the sexual act.

01:38:59.320 The anus, of course, is not an orifice designed for sexual contact, but it is designed to excrete fecal matter, the waste of the body, the sewage system of the body, all that is rejected, all that your body rejects so that it might live.

01:39:14.100 If your kidneys don't filter properly, if your kidneys fail, your blood becomes toxic and you go into septic.

01:39:20.860 That's what happens if you stop shitting, excuse me to be vulgar, you die, you literally, you become so toxic, you die, septic shock.

01:39:29.540 And so, that's what this, you know, organ system, this excretory system is designed for, is to excrete the rejected waste material of the body.

01:39:38.940 So, it's the opposite of life.

01:39:40.200 Then you take the life-giving holy mystery and, you know, you use this as the orifice.

01:39:47.480 And so, like, the seed of life is deposited in shit, literally.

01:39:52.180 And, of course, no fruit can come of the, you know, no fruit comes of this.

01:39:58.260 And so, this is what we mean, another total inversion of the cosmic order, satanic by definition.

01:40:04.760 Yeah, and it's a really good symbol as well because, I mean, this really filters moral idealists from espaterianists.

01:40:14.020 Yeah, and so, that's the thing.

01:40:17.080 And so, it's anybody who is, like, a sodomite or is okay, like, with sodomy.

01:40:23.540 For a sodomite, it means he's morally vapid.

01:40:25.680 It means he's a man with no serious code of ethics at all.

01:40:27.920 And, in fact, he's evil by definition because he commits evil acts.

01:40:31.880 Everything doesn't matter if everything else about his character seems to be politically useful.

01:40:37.480 If he's a sodomite, right, it means that he's not a man.

01:40:41.500 He has no morality.

01:40:42.840 He's a faggot.

01:40:43.980 I mean, you know, a bundle of sticks.

01:40:45.880 The Code of Justinian mandated immolation for homosexuality for sodomy.

01:40:50.660 You know, and I mean, like, that's why here in Mysterium, our position is generally that homos need to be put to death.

01:40:56.800 Of course, you know, I would not, don't go out and kill homos.

01:40:59.720 That's against the law.

01:41:00.920 Okay, but in just society, this is what would happen.

01:41:05.200 Please, I want to open it up for discussion.

01:41:06.780 Titus, please, what's your perspective?

01:41:08.640 Well, just going back to the Goebbels speech, national socialism is an affirmation of life.

01:41:15.980 It is the celebration and the encouraging of the people.

01:41:21.600 Sodomy cannot do that.

01:41:23.320 It cannot achieve that.

01:41:24.680 It is a negation of that celebration.

01:41:27.960 It is a negation of life itself.

01:41:30.920 So you can't be a sodomite.

01:41:33.600 You can't be pro-sodomy and be a national socialist.

01:41:39.160 Clear as that.

01:41:40.780 Exactly.

01:41:41.040 I also think it's pretty interesting how the fires of sodom literally echo throughout history with AIDS.

01:41:52.720 I mean, what these homos are doing essentially is that they are right now creating a super-AIDS.

01:42:00.400 They are doing natural selection literally on drugs because the drugs they get suddenly stop working because the AIDS mutates.

01:42:10.660 AIDS, and it survives, thrives, thrives.

01:42:13.340 The AIDS that's not good enough dies off and the AIDS that is med-resistant survives.

01:42:20.920 And eventually they will hit the wall and this super-AIDS will be there and there's nothing you can do about it.

01:42:28.580 What big pharma is doing right now with AIDS and all these sicknesses is that they are putting it to the future.

01:42:38.740 The only reason why we're not burning down as fast as we maybe should do is because our science is putting it towards the future.

01:42:49.700 It keeps putting it in the future.

01:42:51.000 Exactly.

01:42:51.500 And the only real cure for viruses is nanotechnology.

01:42:55.340 And the nature of – there's no effective way to treat viri besides literally nanotechnology, which is where they're going to go.

01:43:00.700 I'm going to talk about this with the transhumanism article.

01:43:02.680 No, yeah, the AI antichrist, yeah.

01:43:05.200 Let's do that, yeah.

01:43:06.760 In a bit.

01:43:07.440 Go on.

01:43:07.840 No good point, Hans.

01:43:08.840 Doc, want to say anything?

01:43:11.780 It's very striking how all of these subjects are intricately linked.

01:43:16.360 And I kind of want to perhaps go a little bit beyond the immediate subject and sort of talk about how ultimately what we have here is you can either accept life or you can reject life, okay?

01:43:39.480 What do I mean by that?

01:43:41.780 Life is either good or not good, right?

01:43:45.360 And you have a certain group of people who will try to tell you that Christianity, for example, is otherworldly, is life-rejecting.

01:43:57.440 And that could not be farther from the truth.

01:44:00.380 Who is life-rejecting?

01:44:02.580 The people who reject life, who will tell you that life is not good, right, are ultimately – well, first of all, they are satanic in that they invert the natural order.

01:44:15.360 But the historical name for these people is Gnostics, right?

01:44:19.620 The same Gnostics who celebrated sodomy as a sacrament because in hating life, in seeing in life as sort of a prison that imprisons spirits within gross matter,

01:44:38.640 they hated reproduction, right?

01:44:43.600 Yeah.

01:44:45.080 So if National Socialism is life-affirming, then it cannot be Gnostic in any sense of the term, right?

01:44:56.400 It has to be life-affirming, trying to have your cake and eat it too, trying to have a life-affirming doctrine, but also implicitly assuming a life-denying doctrines.

01:45:17.840 You know, oh, we can be nationalist and we can be socialist and we can have a little bit of hedonism on the side.

01:45:24.660 You know, you are self-contradictory and you are one step away from the grave.

01:45:31.920 Yeah.

01:45:32.280 And this is something we talk about in early episodes as well.

01:45:36.600 And the prime example of these literal Gnostic, God-hating, Satanist faggots in his pure literal sense is this Hal Verrachdus guy.

01:45:44.660 And this is a guy who literally thinks he becomes one with God through pedophilic acts.

01:45:53.320 And if you use this Gnostic mentality, it makes perfect sense.

01:45:58.980 If you, for example, read what Irenaeus writes about all these different Gnostic heresies, you see that they practiced this stuff back in the day.

01:46:09.580 This is nothing new.

01:46:10.800 This has happened before.

01:46:11.740 And I won't be surprised if it is more common in positions of power than you might think.

01:46:19.780 I mean, this Pizzagate thing, which happened recently, has given us a sort of window into that sphere.

01:46:28.120 It's a perfect example.

01:46:29.980 Titus.

01:46:30.360 It's a, it still shocks me.

01:46:34.780 I've, I've, I've been in this sort of movement for a good five years.

01:46:39.320 It still shocks me that there are people who are able to believe that type of stuff, Hans.

01:46:46.360 It really does.

01:46:47.220 It's, it's, it's, it's so thoroughly corrupted and it's so blatantly evil.

01:46:52.900 I, I, I really, I, I still, I still have trouble accepting that these people exist, to be perfectly honest.

01:46:59.080 Yeah, there is, there is a point some Pope did.

01:47:01.940 I don't know what Pope it was, but Florian, Florian linked me to this Pope's encyclical or whatever it was.

01:47:11.700 And he made a point that if you reject God through, for example, Sodomy and you love this, then eventually you reject all the love of God.

01:47:21.480 And when you no longer have a love of God, everything is just a matter of time.

01:47:26.700 And this is what I, I've been trying to saying all the time.

01:47:29.920 If you abandon God, the source of morals, everything you have left is moralism.

01:47:36.800 This rigid form that is just destined to be deconstructed by the people who are totally blind to God because they don't see any meaning in life.

01:47:47.800 The, the only meaning, these existentialist, uh, satanists, actual satanists, see, is hedonism.

01:47:58.520 It's, it's the worship of, of, uh, come essentially.

01:48:04.880 Do what the, do what the wilt.

01:48:07.080 That is, do what you want.

01:48:08.720 Do what you desire.

01:48:09.800 Do, uh, obey your passions.

01:48:11.980 Enslave yourself to your passions.

01:48:14.960 This is the only thing they can make sense of.

01:48:18.760 And, you know, at least these depraved sick people take it to the logical conclusion.

01:48:25.620 They are intelligent, but they are depraved.

01:48:28.900 They're, uh, evil.

01:48:31.480 But, you know, they're intelligent.

01:48:33.080 I mean, they take it to the logical, uh, destination, which is what this disgusting Halvoraknes person did.

01:48:42.600 Indeed.

01:48:44.000 Indeed.

01:48:46.120 And so we come back to the core point of theology.

01:48:50.440 Lex Orendi, Lex Credendi, Lex Vivendi.

01:48:52.660 How you pray your spiritual practices inform your core beliefs and your core beliefs inform your life.

01:49:00.700 So if you're a Gnostic, you deny life.

01:49:04.320 Sodomy is the logical conclusion of that.

01:49:07.480 From sodomy, I mean, well, what, you know, the, uh, like, uh, sodomizing children is the ultimate life-denying act.

01:49:16.700 Because you're doing a barren act with a barren vessel.

01:49:21.060 That's why they like to fuck little boys, excuse me.

01:49:25.000 Because this is the most satanic act that you can perform with your body.

01:49:29.860 Yeah.

01:49:30.920 And it is a total, complete subversion of the cosmic order.

01:49:34.120 And this is why our ancestors set these people on fire.

01:49:39.940 And, and, and look at what they are giving up, right?

01:49:43.980 Just, you know, uh, the, the holy mystery of, of the marital act is so awesomely powerful.

01:49:54.100 And I use awesome as in full of awe, right?

01:49:59.460 Two, two people, one, you know, uh, the, the male and the female, uh, microcosm uniting to generate new life.

01:50:09.480 I mean, truly, and, and, and without, um, exaggeration participating in the divine power.

01:50:17.600 Like, I mean, a human being is more than just a clump of cells, more than a biological robot.

01:50:26.420 And what these materialists say is that it's just a biological robot.

01:50:31.160 And it's just a biological thing, but it's not.

01:50:34.080 I mean, what happens is that you give matter life.

01:50:38.520 Or rather, God gives matter life through you.

01:50:41.820 And, for example, if you keep doing abortions, like I've heard, uh, one woman did, and you keep doing abortions, you keep doing abortions, then you shouldn't whine when one day you're infertile and have to live with all your friends being in happy families, having children, while you're just, uh, a sour old hag that's, uh, with a dried up womb.

01:51:04.340 And then, when you're too old to be productive, the, no one, no children to take care of you, what will the state do with you, huh?

01:51:14.140 What do you think is going to happen then?

01:51:14.840 Yeah, you'll die alone in a hospital, in a dark room.

01:51:18.100 That's what will happen.

01:51:20.400 And if you're lucky, maybe a priest will see you.

01:51:22.560 And if you're really lucky, maybe it'll be even convert.

01:51:25.080 A good point of transition.

01:51:27.420 We're now going to enter our Kali Yuga News segment of the show.

01:51:31.520 So, I'm going to let every one of our guests select an article from our, uh, incredibly triggering list today.

01:51:38.380 It's going to be a big one, boys.

01:51:39.420 It's going to be a long episode.

01:51:40.500 Uh, there's just so many.

01:51:42.820 Holy shit, boys.

01:51:44.100 Uh, Hans, why don't you go with the article at the top?

01:51:49.880 Oh, yeah.

01:51:52.240 Blogger celebrates her awesome abortion.

01:51:55.700 It was a joyful experience.

01:51:58.200 This is disgusting.

01:52:03.720 They enjoy killing children.

01:52:08.380 Of course, it was a crazy redhead as well.

01:52:12.300 Fucking hell.

01:52:14.440 And, why don't you just read a little bit more into the article to get the people some context?

01:52:18.340 Let's, let's, let's start with the first few paragraphs here.

01:52:22.260 Whatever your views on abortion, celebrating the act of ending a human life as joyful and awesome is completely vile.

01:52:30.120 But that's what left-wing blogger Kristen V. Brown felt the need to do in the latest example of how liberals are attempting to turn what should be sobering decision into a cause for jubilation.

01:52:44.620 That is abortion, entitled, I had an abortion, and it was totally joyful experience.

01:52:50.900 The article posted on fusion.net was illustrated with an image of a smiley face, emoticons, party peripheralia, and champagne balls.

01:53:02.320 Actually, let's see.

01:53:03.320 Yeah, it's even true.

01:53:04.340 I mean, it's literal, ritualized killing of children.

01:53:09.140 They are sacrificing them to Moloch and rejoicing at their deaths.

01:53:13.580 Yeah, and they enjoy it.

01:53:15.580 They enjoy it.

01:53:17.760 And let's, I'm going to read a few, a few, a few lines of the actual article here, not the InfoWars article.

01:53:26.320 Let's read the intro here.

01:53:27.620 I shouldn't have been pregnant, I was on the pill, and yet I knew that I was because I could feel my entire body rebelling against me.

01:53:37.120 I was no longer in control.

01:53:39.540 Well, maybe you shouldn't have had promiscuous sex, you disgusting person.

01:53:45.480 Titus, did you want to say something?

01:53:48.340 Yeah, we're going to have to make the Inquisition great again, my friend.

01:53:52.360 I mean, truly, I, you know, it's just, uh, they need to repent.

01:53:59.720 I mean, they literally need to repent.

01:54:01.740 They need, I mean, this is a sort of circumstance where, I mean, it's like, you know, a lot of people do not understand why our ancestors killed these people.

01:54:14.100 Why they set them on fire.

01:54:16.320 Why they nailed them to crosses.

01:54:18.040 It's, it's, it's, Florian, the, the act in and of itself is bad enough.

01:54:23.880 It's, it's, it's the celebration of, of something that is, yeah, objectively horrific.

01:54:32.140 It's, it's, it's, uh, uh, morally shocking, morally shocking.

01:54:37.540 A lack of shame is horrible enough, but this, this is just, our break might try.

01:54:44.580 Let's, let's, let's read a part here that kind of stands out.

01:54:48.420 I didn't have friends, but I did have an OkCupid account.

01:54:52.720 I made a nice enough guy there, and we dated for a few weeks.

01:54:56.280 Until he bought a house and a puppy and made clear that he was rapidly heading towards settling down.

01:55:02.840 We parted ways, but a few weeks later, on, on yet another friendless Friday night, I asked him out to dinner.

01:55:10.760 I drank too much.

01:55:11.720 I didn't especially remember how, but we went up back at his place.

01:55:16.060 I do remember asking him to wear a condom.

01:55:18.280 I also remember being too out of it to officially protest.

01:55:22.300 La, la, la, la, la, la.

01:55:23.880 You, you liked it.

01:55:24.820 You liked it.

01:55:25.780 The next day, I made an appointment for an ST test, blocked the snob, unfriended him on Facebook.

01:55:32.920 Yeah, that, that's how we cut the content these days.

01:55:35.740 We don't talk to him with him.

01:55:36.740 We don't break up officially.

01:55:38.000 We just removed him on Facebook.

01:55:39.940 Yeah, fucking him.

01:55:41.620 And sincerely hope to never see him again.

01:55:44.880 So this guy was planning to settle down, you know, to, to, to, to create a family.

01:55:51.520 Now, what did she do?

01:55:52.580 She aborted it and now she celebrated.

01:55:55.580 She celebrated that she chose this life instead of what, you know, could have been a pretty decent life.

01:56:03.580 You know, granted, she, she did meet this guy on a dating app or dating website, but, you know, still.

01:56:08.940 I mean, what the fuck?

01:56:14.600 Truly.

01:56:14.960 Sorry for the profanity of it.

01:56:16.180 No, I mean, it's not a lot like, listen, you said it.

01:56:20.500 Uh, wow.

01:56:22.360 Poignant reminder of the discussion that we just had.

01:56:25.120 This, this reminds me of one of my, one of my favorite Kipling poems, uh, the female of the species.

01:56:30.520 We have to understand that the female mind does not work like the male mind does.

01:56:37.520 All right.

01:56:40.000 Yeah.

01:56:41.800 Really.

01:56:42.480 Yeah.

01:56:43.340 It's a, that's, that's a huge discussion.

01:56:45.520 Now that we will have a discussion about women on Mysterium fascis.

01:56:48.540 So, uh, you can stay tuned for that.

01:56:50.940 Now, I think, uh, let me just read a final thing here.

01:56:56.080 But once I got an abortion, suddenly everything was fine again.

01:57:01.200 My life went back to normal.

01:57:02.920 Actually, it was better than that.

01:57:05.180 I had imagined in distressing detail, the life I had planned for myself completely unraveling.

01:57:12.880 So, yeah, I, I felt a deep sense of freedom.

01:57:18.540 That's what she's writing.

01:57:20.200 Freedom.

01:57:21.120 Freedom to kill her baby.

01:57:22.660 That's the freedom she wants.

01:57:25.200 How about our freedom to crucify these people?

01:57:27.440 How about that freedom?

01:57:29.040 And freedom, freedom to do what exactly?

01:57:32.260 Yeah, this is exactly the thing.

01:57:33.620 I mean, you shouldn't, we have free will.

01:57:37.900 We have free choice to choose to become subject to these revolting, disgusting, vile passions to kill our own babies.

01:57:47.240 But then we have to, to, to face the consequences of it.

01:57:50.940 And we become slaves to it.

01:57:52.760 We, we, and through becoming slaves to it, we literally become slaves to Satan.

01:57:57.780 That's how it all works.

01:57:59.860 Because Satan was the one who originally perverted everything.

01:58:03.620 He was the greatest.

01:58:05.320 Now look at him.

01:58:07.400 Cursing God and was thrown down from hell by, uh, St. Michael.

01:58:11.660 And how did he do his work?

01:58:15.420 He offered a temptation to Eve.

01:58:17.840 Yeah.

01:58:18.680 Yeah.

01:58:20.300 Doc, would you like to select the next article?

01:58:25.280 Surely, surely.

01:58:26.680 Uh, so many tempting items.

01:58:28.700 Um, this, this, this lunar temple thing is so strange.

01:58:33.620 I have to take a look at it.

01:58:34.480 All right.

01:58:34.820 All right.

01:58:35.140 This is good material.

01:58:36.260 Very, uh, yeah.

01:58:38.140 Always looking forward to this one.

01:58:39.240 Yeah.

01:58:41.660 Okay.

01:58:42.980 So the headline is Daily Mail and, uh, the incredible lunar temple, European space bosses

01:58:51.340 reveal plan for 50 meter high quote dome of contemplation end quote.

01:58:56.980 That's some Masonic shits.

01:58:59.800 I, uh, where, where to begin?

01:59:03.580 Uh, let me just read some quotes from here.

01:59:06.080 Uh, it could be a temple like no other.

01:59:09.080 And with a view that is really out of this world, the European space agency has revealed

01:59:14.800 plans for a lunar temple to be built alongside mankind's first outpost on the moon.

01:59:21.400 The 50 meter high dome close to a planned moon base near the moon's south pole would give

01:59:27.500 the first settlers a quote place of contemplation end quote.

01:59:31.880 Artist Jorge Manes Rubio, part of the ESA's future oriented advanced concepts team, ACT, designed

01:59:41.320 the temple to be built alongside ESA's planned moon base.

01:59:46.460 Can I just read a highlight here from the article?

01:59:49.240 Yeah, dudes.

01:59:49.980 Please go ahead.

01:59:50.680 Uh, the same person says lunar settlement represents a perfect chance for a fresh start, a place

01:59:56.240 where there are no social conventions, no nations and no religion, somewhere where these concepts

02:00:01.440 will need to be rethought from scratch.

02:00:04.920 There you have it, friends, the revelation of the method, right?

02:00:08.400 They're telling you, I mean, they're not hiding it, right?

02:00:11.500 Fuck yeah.

02:00:12.160 It's literally, I mean, a Masonic temple.

02:00:14.580 Every iota of reality, the entire life system is constructed.

02:00:20.260 It's sustained by technology of man's own mind and hand.

02:00:24.920 That, for them, is the ideal.

02:00:26.600 The floating city on the moon.

02:00:29.220 Yeah.

02:00:29.720 Fucking hell.

02:00:32.120 Elysium was supposed to be a cute science fiction movie, not a documentary, people.

02:00:36.700 Yeah, well, when we have Jay Dyer on the show, hopefully he'll be able to talk about

02:00:39.860 that kind of stuff.

02:00:40.860 Predictive programming, revelation of the method.

02:00:43.200 You can bet these kikes boys.

02:00:45.980 There is something that's pretty interesting here, though.

02:00:50.100 This is like literally every sort of religious temple, a temple of contemplation and all

02:00:55.860 this la-di-da-di-da-di disgusting New Age shits.

02:01:01.840 And it's on the moon.

02:01:03.320 Now, what does the moon symbolize?

02:01:07.360 It symbolizes the feminine light.

02:01:09.020 The moon doesn't have any light on its own.

02:01:11.300 It merely reflects the light from the sun.

02:01:14.460 And this is, again, a sort of inversion.

02:01:16.880 It's a sort of lunar worship.

02:01:20.380 It's worshiping the creation rather than the creator.

02:01:24.300 It's this gnostic inversion again.

02:01:27.760 Abelah writes extensively about the lunar and solar traditions.

02:01:30.680 Exactly.

02:01:31.840 I know.

02:01:32.480 Well, and it's important to remember, of course, that the Apollo program itself was a Masonic

02:01:37.400 ritual.

02:01:37.760 I mean, there was deep meaning to why the lander was the eagle, why it was blasted off

02:01:44.900 to purposefully designed to enter an orbit that would take it to the sun, right?

02:01:51.340 The entire Apollo program was a ritual and a sacrifice.

02:01:56.440 And this is just the continuation.

02:01:57.840 I mean, you can see, as you say, the revelation of the method.

02:02:01.620 The goal is a planetary transnational elite in their pleasure dome in Xanadu on the moon

02:02:11.700 engaging in God knows what kind of freakish rites in a lunar temple to a moon goddess.

02:02:20.480 That's why we need space Nazis to come and break their shit up, all right?

02:02:24.160 So you can look forward to that.

02:02:25.400 No, the space right-wing death squads.

02:02:27.680 I think Richard or Robert Hoagland has written an excellent book on that subject of NASA

02:02:32.360 called Dark Mission.

02:02:34.600 I highly suggest everybody check that out.

02:02:36.220 It goes all the way through the beginning with Operation Paperclip, Von Braun, the Masonic

02:02:40.100 influence, the intelligence community connections.

02:02:42.580 It's all there, boys.

02:02:43.580 Serious stuff.

02:02:45.260 Titus, you got any comments?

02:02:47.580 I bet they'll have an abortion clinic on that moon base.

02:02:51.960 Whoa, without a fucking mouth.

02:02:53.080 Only one.

02:02:53.720 Without a fucking doubt.

02:02:57.580 Now, would you like to select an article, Titus?

02:03:01.440 Certainly.

02:03:02.140 Certainly.

02:03:02.380 I actually think I'm going to pick the one from the Dallas News.

02:03:07.720 Actually read this earlier today.

02:03:10.540 Title, New Baylor Lawsuit Alleges 50 Rapes by Football Players in Four Years.

02:03:15.960 Now, this is something that is an endemic issue in the United States, far more so in the South,

02:03:31.120 which is the worship of college football and the ridiculousness that goes on, the covering

02:03:37.580 up of crimes and so forth from this, a few segments from the article.

02:03:42.660 A Baylor University graduate who says she was raped by football players in 2013 sued the

02:03:49.880 university Friday.

02:03:50.760 Her lawsuit includes an allegation that 31 Baylor football players committed at least 52 acts

02:03:56.940 of rape, including five gang rapes between 2011 and 2014, an estimate that far exceeds the

02:04:04.340 number of previous previously provided by school officials.

02:04:07.680 What a surprise.

02:04:09.220 I actually want to go a little bit further on the article that actually has a quote from,

02:04:20.400 I'm sorry, I'm reading in real time.

02:04:23.360 Goodness, where is it?

02:04:24.880 Here we go.

02:04:25.660 The lawsuit describes a culture of sexual violence under former Baylor football coach Art Brills,

02:04:31.260 in which the school implemented a show them a good time, unquote, policy that used sex to

02:04:38.380 sell, unquote, the football program to recruits.

02:04:42.060 That included escorting underage recruits to strip clubs and arranging women to have sex

02:04:47.380 with prospective players, the suit alleges.

02:04:50.560 Former assistant coach Kendall Bryles, the son of the head coach, once told a Dallas area student

02:04:56.960 athlete, do you like white women?

02:04:59.300 Because we have a lot of them at Baylor, and they love football players, according to the suit.

02:05:07.540 I think I'm going to be sick.

02:05:12.180 Speaking of child sacrifice, oh my god.

02:05:14.340 Exactly.

02:05:14.940 Yeah, you got to pimp out the women of your own people to get those sports results that you were looking for.

02:05:27.140 Yeah.

02:05:27.700 Absolutely ridiculous.

02:05:29.300 I mean, well, what do you, yeah, beyond, I mean, it's just, asinine is a perfect word.

02:05:35.400 But, you know, this is a, this is manliness in American culture.

02:05:41.680 Football.

02:05:44.660 Yeah, football.

02:05:46.520 American!

02:05:47.600 Seriously, I mean, but this is the, this is the idol, right?

02:05:50.040 The idol of the sports ball.

02:05:51.160 These people worship at the altar of the sports ball, okay?

02:05:55.500 It subsumes national and tribal identity.

02:05:58.540 And all of their pride and energy goes into this, this soma, this palliative, these circuses.

02:06:05.220 And Evola actually wrote briefly about football and all this, and he, he, he sought as a plebeian, and, you know, that, that sounds kind of pretentious, but he, he's kind of right.

02:06:19.160 It's, it's, it's just, it's literally bread and circus.

02:06:21.880 It's literally the circus of the Romans.

02:06:23.780 And, uh, I mean, back in the day, you had gladiators, now we have celebrities.

02:06:30.440 Wells had the, uh, a similar critique of, of sports.

02:06:33.360 Um, and I, you know, of course, I don't think any of us agrees with his, uh, with his brand of politics, but I think his critique of, you know, the celebration of the, the athlete, uh, to such a ridiculous degree is, uh, is, is warranted.

02:06:46.080 Um, we, we, we can all, uh, remember the, uh, Jerry Sandusky, I think his name was, who was the pedophile boy raping coach from a, uh, university and the university covered it up because he had a winning record.

02:07:01.480 Yes, essentially.

02:07:04.000 Fuck yeah.

02:07:05.040 I'll go on, uh, to my article.

02:07:07.340 This is, uh, it was not in there, but I think it was meant to be included.

02:07:10.940 Scientists have created the first human pig crossbreed.

02:07:14.240 This is, uh, from Russia today.

02:07:20.480 Uh, scientists have created the first human pig hybrid in a groundbreaking study that marks the first step in growing human organs inside animals, named Chimera.

02:07:30.880 After the cross-species beast in Greek mythology, the pig-human embryos were created by the Salk Institute for Biological Research in La Iolta, California,

02:07:39.500 and are the first hybrid made using two large, distantly related species.

02:07:45.580 The ultimate, uh, the ultimate goal is to grow functional and transplantable tissue or organs, says Juan Carlos Belmonte, who led the project.

02:07:55.100 This is an important first step.

02:07:57.060 Human stem cells were injected into young pig embryos, which are then placed in surrogate cows.

02:08:01.940 Those, whoa, of more than 2,000 embryos, only 186 turned into chimeras, largely pig, with human elements in one out of 10,000 cells.

02:08:13.320 Fuck yeah.

02:08:14.960 This is something, um, you want to talk about cosmic order.

02:08:20.820 All right.

02:08:21.520 First of all, um, I don't want to live in the X-Files.

02:08:28.440 Second of all, uh, this is, if, if you read the apocryphal literature, you know, this is what caused the flood, people.

02:08:40.800 Yeah, it is.

02:08:43.860 And I mean, like, seriously, this is what caused the flood.

02:08:46.800 Dude, that's because the, the, the, the antediluvian civilization, according to patristic literature, was one of high technology and societal sophistication.

02:08:56.780 Okay.

02:08:58.320 This is what the Nephilim, this is what it's about.

02:09:01.740 Okay.

02:09:01.920 You read Genesis, you, you'll find it.

02:09:03.860 The children of fallen angels and women of men.

02:09:07.360 Florian, let me, let me read a part of the original National Geographic article here.

02:09:12.820 That is really freaky and really stands out, especially with this, uh, Nephilim talk you, you just had.

02:09:20.480 Right, two paragraphs.

02:09:22.560 But for lead study author, Jean Vu of Salk Institute, we need only look to mystical, mythical chimeras.

02:09:31.080 Like the human-bird hybrids we know as angels for a different perspective.

02:09:36.360 In ancient civilizations, chimeras were associated with God, he says, and our ancestors thought the chimeras form, the, the chimeric form can guard humans.

02:09:47.000 In a sense, that's what the team hopes human-animal hybrids will do one day.

02:09:53.560 Yeah, so I mean, this is not, you know, an incidental scientific development, free of the ideology and theology that we're suggesting.

02:10:00.680 In fact, you've heard it there, it directly conforms to it.

02:10:04.460 It's not a, it's like, that's the thing, boys.

02:10:06.660 Uh, we're, you know, we're being very serious.

02:10:09.840 Not a word of what we say is hyperbole.

02:10:13.240 Everything, we're being very precise, being very technical, being very modest in how we're talking.

02:10:19.840 And this should demonstrate to you the seriousness of these subjects.

02:10:23.900 It's not we aren't saying it's everyone else.

02:10:26.460 Literally.

02:10:26.880 Truly, and I wanted to couple a second article with this, and this will be our last one for today.

02:10:33.680 This is from dailystar.co.uk.

02:10:37.020 The first sex robot is here.

02:10:40.220 Meet Harmony, the cyborg of your dreams.

02:10:43.480 Men will be able to meet their witty android lover for the first time on April 15th, 2017.

02:10:49.340 The sexbot takes artificial intelligence to a whole new level.

02:10:52.840 She is unpredictable and charming and has the ability to surprise their masters.

02:10:57.360 Cyborg developer of RealBotics, Matt McCullen, who revealed sex robots are going to be mind-blowing in bed,

02:11:04.840 has given Daily Star Online an exclusive sneak peek into the mind of the sex robot app to titillate fellas around the world.

02:11:14.560 Matt wants people to have a real bond with their kinky, kinky, RealBotics sexually aware lovers.

02:11:20.900 They made its name Harmony.

02:11:26.860 How ironic.

02:11:28.700 How ironic.

02:11:30.480 Truly, truly.

02:11:33.200 Well, that's the thing.

02:11:33.820 I mean, this is where they want to go, boys.

02:11:36.140 You know, it's transhumanism, right?

02:11:38.600 And then you remove the sexual act from the human species altogether.

02:11:41.700 You create a barren orifice.

02:11:43.000 In fact, they're going to go one step further.

02:11:44.560 I mean, you're going to see sex bots with artificial wombs.

02:11:46.840 We read an article a couple of weeks ago talking about the development of the artificial womb.

02:11:52.200 You can go back and check it out.

02:11:54.620 The technology exists to do this.

02:11:58.460 Artificial incubators.

02:11:59.440 And so all the sex bot, it's all here.

02:12:02.920 You know, so that's the thing, right?

02:12:04.620 And I mean, the need for a rigorous ethical system is only going to be made more apparent when we run into things like sex bots.

02:12:15.100 I mean, boys, there is nothing worth conserving in the present system, okay?

02:12:24.960 So, I'm not saying that pranks need to happen right now, but...

02:12:33.960 The pranking will occur.

02:12:36.120 The pranking will occur.

02:12:37.840 And, you know, at this point, all that is left is the cleansing fire.

02:12:45.180 Fire and brimstone and burning wind shall be the portion of the cup.

02:12:49.740 Precisely.

02:12:51.440 Titus, would you like to make any final comments?

02:12:53.080 We get to the end of our second hour.

02:12:54.960 Well, when the time comes, join your local Freed Corps, gentlemen.

02:13:00.060 Perfect.

02:13:01.600 All right, boys.

02:13:03.380 That brings us to the end of our episode.

02:13:05.500 I'm your host, Florian Dyer.

02:13:07.140 Thank you to all of our listeners for joining us.

02:13:10.600 Please feel free to comment or reach out to us if you have any questions.

02:13:14.080 We're always open.

02:13:15.780 You know, we try not to be pretentious, although we sometimes talk about very hot ideas.

02:13:20.580 Joining me today is a guest of honor, Titus Flavius of Kultukam.

02:13:24.960 Please go check out his podcast.

02:13:26.300 Titus, it's been a pleasure and an honor to have you on.

02:13:29.040 Likewise, my friend.

02:13:30.740 Certainly.

02:13:31.240 You're going to come back on again.

02:13:32.240 That's for sure.

02:13:33.600 Joining me, we have a co-host, Grieva Hans.

02:13:36.220 Hans, thank you for coming back on after a little bit of his.

02:13:38.340 No problem.

02:13:39.360 Fantastic.

02:13:40.640 Your commentary was a classic Grieva Hans style on the ball.

02:13:43.900 We've also got our regular co-host, Doc Savage.

02:13:46.480 Doc, thanks for coming on.

02:13:48.800 Usually, I would throw out something a little bit more high energy, but I just weep.

02:13:55.380 Weep for the future, Natoth.

02:13:57.940 Weep not for me, but for yourselves and for your children, for the days are coming when

02:14:02.440 men will say to the mountains, fall on us.

02:14:05.020 To all of our listeners, Shalom.

02:14:35.020 Uns führt der Florian Geier an, trotz Acht und Bann.

02:14:42.960 Den Mundschuh führt er in der Fahrt, hat Helm und Armisch an.

02:14:51.500 Spieß voran, drauf und ran, setzt aufs loser Dach den roten Arm.

02:14:59.040 Spieß voran, drauf und ran, setzt aufs loser Dach den roten Arm.

02:15:07.100 Spieß voran, drauf und ran, spieß voran.

02:15:37.100 Rauch und ran, drauf und ran, setzt aufs loser Dach den roten Arm.

02:15:43.600 Spieß voran, drauf und ran, setzt aufs loser Dach den roten Arm.

02:16:11.920 Spieß voran, drauf und ran, setzt aufs loser Dach den roten Arm.

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