Florian Geyer and Sven Longshanks join me to discuss Christian Identity and its origins in the Old Testament, the role of Jews in the Bible, and what Christian Identity means to them. We also talk about what it means to be a Christian in the modern world, and where Christian identity comes from.
00:06:33.000He says, for when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these having not the law are a law unto themselves, which show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another.
00:06:53.000The important part of that is it says that the Gentiles show the work of the law written in their hearts.
00:06:58.000And that's a fulfillment of a prophecy in the Old Testament that the new covenant would be written in the hearts of Israel.
00:07:04.000There would be a new new covenant with them and the law would be written in their hearts.
00:07:10.000And this is a subject I'm interested in discussing from a scriptural standpoint, but I feel like we might want to say that for a little bit later when we get more into kind of the meat of the theology.
00:07:19.000And just in the beginning, try to present, you know, the evolution of the idea, the major thinkers, you know, and of course, it has grounding, you know, in Scripture, and then kind of get to those once we have already established the anthropological background, the intellectual background.
00:08:03.000And Abraham was promised, the covenant that God made with Abraham was that many nations would come from his loins and a company of nations.
00:08:12.000And the actual word used in the Old Testament there is goi.
00:08:15.000So the promise with Abraham is that many goi would come from his loins.
00:08:20.000And the word goi meant people group, nation back then.
00:08:24.000And then that got Latinized to Gentile.
00:11:20.000People have looked back in the old records and the chronicles of the countries of Europe.
00:11:26.000And you can trace this migration route and you can trace this route from there into Europe.
00:11:31.000And then suddenly you get these Germanic tribes that come bursting into Europe.
00:11:36.000And you also get these Cymurians that are being pushed in front of them.
00:11:40.000They became the Cymru, which is still the name for the Welsh today.
00:11:44.000And these Germanic tribes, they also got their own back on Rome and a couple of other things which sort of fulfilled the prophecy that Israel was supposed to do in the Old Testament.
00:11:55.000So there was a new name basically for new nations really that hadn't really been spoken about before in the histories.
00:12:03.000And it all fitted in together from these archaeological discoveries.
00:12:08.000The Tel El Armana letters which talk about the Abiru and them also being the Saka.
00:12:14.000There are these prisms that were found that talked about the campaigns of these Assyrian kings when they went in and took Judah and took Israel.
00:12:24.000So there's all this archaeological evidence to show that these European nations came from the tribes of Israel basically.
00:12:34.000And then you had a group called British Israel.
00:12:36.000They sort of latched on to this, but they really wanted to use it to try and justify the British Empire and to say that because they just really wanted to say that the British people were Israel.
00:12:49.000And, you know, that was why they had the British Empire and they were going to rule over all these other nations.
00:12:54.000But there's nothing in the Bible that says anything at all about ruling over these other nations.
00:12:58.000Israel is supposed to be kept separate from the other races.
00:13:02.000There's this very, very strong racial component to the Bible that the church just ignores.
00:13:08.000So you ended up with people in America, nationalists in America, patriots in America that discovered this and discovered the Jewish side of it.
00:13:19.000Because when you start trying to identify the people in the Bible, you've obviously got to identify the Jews and the history is all there.
00:13:25.000It's a historical fact that the Jews descend from Esau, Edom, the Edomians, which goes back to the Canaanites.
00:13:32.000So then you begin to get a historical story of this war between the Jews and between Israel and between the Canaanites and between Israel.
00:13:43.000And there were also other people that were researching it. There's a famous German author. I can't think of his name right now.
00:13:50.000And he wrote a book during the war and he was saying, you know, what's Hitler going to do when he discovers this, that, you know, it's the Europeans that are Israel and the Jews are these Canaanites.
00:13:58.000So it was, that was around the time that it was starting to be worked out exactly, you know, how this, what was happening back then is playing out now in the, in the modern age.
00:14:09.000And then Christian identity came about in, in America, really, they had these churches and all to do with the Ku Klux Klan and the American patriots, these Christian, Christian patriots.
00:14:21.920And then it was discovered that it goes right back to, to Cain and, and these, the Canaanites can be traced back, back to Cain.
00:14:29.900And then you start looking at the oldest manuscripts and, you know, there's, there's, you know, they're not quite certain that Adam was Cain's father.
00:14:39.000And then you look through the Bible and you can actually find five or six witnesses in the Bible, which show that Cain, that Cain's father was not Adam.
00:14:46.020I mean, versus saying that he was of the, of the wicked one or genealogies that don't actually include him.
00:14:55.480So, and I just want to slow you down here because you said like a whole lot of different stuff, which is all great, but I think that we should kind of, you know, kind of go by more blow by blow.
00:15:09.000I, cause I had heard, um, I'd heard more or less all of this stuff, but it's good to hear it kind of laid out in a coherent narrative as you describe it.
00:15:20.040So I, you know, you, you covered pretty broadly, you know, the origins of Christian identity.
00:15:25.680So to kind of recap, what we've got here are, um, you know, fundamentally scripture and archeological evidence, uh, combined with the historical record, which was, and this idea, Christian identitarians believe supports the notion of, um, the Germanic, nor the peoples of Europe as being the true blood Israel, that the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
00:16:03.660There was, there was also, um, you know, there was, there was these Puritan groups in the 16th or the 17th century that were just following the old Testament.
00:16:10.520And, and they wanted to show the Jews that, um, you know, Britain was, was, was the, uh, were, was the perfect, um, uh, fulfillment of the old Testament and that they were obeying all these laws in the old Testament.
00:16:22.900And, and they brought the, the Jews back into England thinking that they were all going to become Christians.
00:16:27.640And, and, and, and, uh, the Jews took everything over, took the bank over and all, all the rest of it.
00:16:32.940And, uh, and they made a right mess and they, but they had no, um, you know, no basis for it.
00:16:41.100And I don't really think that, um, you know, that forms part of a history of Christian identity, but sometimes it's an allegation that gets put at Christian identity.
00:17:05.780So the first thing that comes to mind is that, um, uh, uh, there, there is, there, there is language that in, in, in both the old and new testaments that, um, that would tend to support a reading, uh, an anthropological.
00:17:25.280Reading that, um, I, I, I think perhaps it, it might be daring to say all Europeans at all times, all places are, you know, identical with, uh, the lost tribes, but at the very least, I think it is, it is safe to say that you could read this evidence to suggest that there was a, uh, a stream.
00:17:49.600Um, right, yeah, that's, yeah, that, that, that, that, that, that, that parts of Israel, parts of the lost tribes did mix with early Europeans.
00:18:02.920So what I think that we should do, and I'll give it back to you in a second here, Sven, is we should kind of go blow by blow through some of the listeners, because not everybody's going to be super familiar with biblical history.
00:18:11.440So I think that we should sort of lay out for them the anthropological narrative that some of the tribes, some of the peoples of Israel, of, uh, Europe are descended from the 10 tribes of Northern Israel.
00:18:25.800Now, um, so some people here will know this, but, and I, and go ahead, Sven, I'm just going to lay down a few points and please take it over, is that, you know, in the 8th century BC, the Assyrians, uh, after, after the death of King Solomon, the Assyrians invaded, uh, uh, Israel.
00:18:43.980And they took over the Northern part and the 10 tribes, uh, all except for Judah and Benjamin, who resided in the Southern part of the country, um, were deported.
00:18:57.680But what I, what I really should have stated earlier is that there were dispersions before then.
00:19:02.080There were a lot of dispersions before then.
00:19:03.940There was, um, there was a dispersion at the time of Moses when Moses was in Egypt.
00:19:08.780You had, uh, you know, you had, uh, the firstborn son of Judah, which was Zara, who was the one with, um, uh, all the, all the, um, heritage that goes with that being the firstborn son who his, um, his, um, his whole line disappears while they're in Egypt.
00:19:23.340So he disappeared, came into, came into Europe.
00:19:26.200You can actually trace the kings from Troy and King Latinus and, and all these various old king, kingly lines go back to Zara, who actually left that area at the time of Moses.
00:19:38.000Then you've got other groups, other tribes that left.
00:19:40.720You've got, um, the tribe of Dan, I believe they left, a large portion of them left, um, where, at the time when there were the fiery serpents.
00:19:49.700So this was before they'd even set up, um, you know, the, the United Kingdom of, uh, Israel and Judah.
00:19:56.280Uh, and then once they actually had, had that, that area, they had what, you have what's called the Phoenician Empire that started, and that was centred around the land of Asher.
00:20:05.900So, you know, you had these Israelite tribes that had that area, which was also the perfect area for, um, pushing boats off from the beach.
00:20:14.240I mean, they weren't just, uh, sunbathing.
00:20:16.320I mean, at the time of Solomon, you had the Phoenician Empire beginning, and you had these, these colonizers that were moving out right the way across the world.
00:20:24.360I mean, it says Solomon, everyone knew who Solomon was.
00:20:26.920All these other countries were paying taxes to him.
00:20:28.780He was, uh, in an alliance with Egypt.
00:20:32.100He actually conquered Assyria, which is possibly why Assyria then came back and, and dispersed Israel a few hundred years later.
00:20:40.500So you had lots of different, um, dispersions into Europe before then, but the, the main dispersion was that time there with, um, with, when the Assyrians, uh, removed them to, to that area around Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan sort of area.
00:20:56.320And one of the biggest proofs I find for that is all the stone circles and the standing stones that we have all across Europe, particularly in Britain.
00:21:04.800So there are over a dozen verses in the Old Testament telling, you know, commanding the, the Israelites that they must erect these stones wherever, wherever they go.
00:21:12.580And it talks, talks of them, talks of putting up stones, uh, putting plaster on them and putting the words of the law on them, putting up stone circles.
00:21:20.080And it also talks about, um, Abraham being buried in a cave in a field, which is a long barrow.
00:21:25.220So it's the only written evidence that we have of these megalithic structures being built is actually in the Old Testament.
00:21:32.000And, and you see these structures being built all the way across Europe.
00:21:39.400So that's, you know, that's the extent of, of these, um, dispersions and this colonizing activity that went on.
00:21:46.740But the, the, the main bit that people concentrate on though, is the dispersion that was brought about by, by the Assyrians when, when they removed them to, um, that area where they were able to go through the Caucasus.
00:21:59.180So the assertion is, is after they were deported to the southern area of the Caspian Sea, right?
00:22:05.100That from there, they went across the, uh, European steppe and dispersed through Europe.
00:22:12.480Through the Caucasian mountains, through the Israel Pass and the Caucasian mountains.
00:22:16.000And then you've got, you know, the, the Diniepa, the Danube, all these rivers named after the tribe of Dan.
00:22:22.060And, uh, there was another, another portion of them went around via the sea route.
00:22:27.240Because you have these two groups, you have the Cimmerians and the Scythians, almost like the Scythians were pushing the, the Cimmerians on in, in front of them.
00:22:34.840And as, as these tribes made their way into Europe, their, their names changed in the, in the records.
00:22:39.900The Scythians became the Saxons and the, and the Cimmerians became the Cymru.
00:22:44.560You also got the, uh, Massagedi and the, the Galatahi and, and all these various other tribes that, that ended up coming from them.
00:22:51.520And then, then they, you can split them up even further and you get like the Jutes, the Angles, the Saxons, the Danes.
00:22:59.880And you can trace them all back, basically, these routes that they, that they traveled.
00:23:04.860And if you look at the, um, I think the, the Danish myths talk about, or the Nordic myths talk about, uh, this land Asia.
00:23:10.860And the earliest British Chronicle talks about British people coming from this place called, uh, the Summerland is, is what they called it.
00:23:18.440So I think you had like a cradle of civilization, the, the Fertile Crescent and all around that area.
00:23:23.820And then, uh, people spread out from there.
00:23:26.840And I think, um, the, the people that spread to the coldest parts, like us, we were the ones that were furthest away from the miscegenation.
00:25:26.180Uh, I think it's, it's, uh, a good point to make.
00:25:28.520You know, I don't, um, for me, I, I want to just make it clear that I don't have a personal opinion on the, the anthropology.
00:25:35.240I mean, I think this is actually, it's very fascinating, and I'm very glad to learn more about it.
00:25:39.520Um, but I, you know, don't have, um, an opinion one way or another affirming it or denying it.
00:25:44.980But let's move from the Volkswanderung, and we can come back to that, to something else that you mentioned.
00:25:52.600So you talked about, um, the, in the antediluvian period, um, an idea of what's known as the, the serpent seed line hypothesis.
00:26:00.960Do you want to go more into this idea that the, that Cain was not descended from Adam?
00:26:08.780Well, yeah, I, I, you've got, um, you know, the story of Adam and Eve with the serpent in the garden.
00:26:15.720And that's, you know, that's like a parable.
00:26:18.600And it's telling you that, uh, this serpent, I believe, was, was a derogatory term for the serpent that was more subtle than, uh, the other beasts of the field.
00:26:29.260And, uh, then the next thing you know, Eve is pregnant, and she's got two, she's got Cain, and she's got Abel.
00:26:37.540And then when it's telling you the line of, um, Adam in the genealogy, it just goes, Adam, Abel, Seth.
00:26:44.080It doesn't actually tell you about Cain at all.
00:26:46.740And Cain's, um, sacrifice was, was refused.
00:26:50.380And the actual curse that's put on, um, Adam and Eve, the curse is that, um, the seed of, uh, the woman will have to crush the serpent's head.
00:27:00.060And the, and the seed of the serpent will bite at the ankles of, of the seed of the woman.
00:27:05.560So you have this, um, you know, this prophecy and this curse right there, um, at the beginning.
00:27:10.800And then when, when, at the time of Jesus, um, you know, he says he's going to reveal things that haven't been heard since the creation of the world.
00:27:19.100He says to the Jews, your father is a devil.
00:27:30.100Um, if you look, if you look outside of the Bible, if you look in the book of Enoch, it tells you that, you know, Abel, Abel's soul is, is screaming that Cain's bloodline or Cain's seed must be obliterated from the face of the earth.
00:27:44.440If you look at, um, what the church fathers said way back at the time of, uh, of Christ, you know, they, they're talking about the, the, uh, the, the, the offspring of Cain, basically.
00:27:55.000And you've got, uh, the books of Adam and Eve that were written from the folklore at the time, third and fourth century.
00:28:03.320And they say the most important thing that was passed on to the sons of Adam was that they must not breed with the, with the children of Cain.
00:28:12.080I haven't, I should have refreshed my memory on this part of it before, um, before we started recording.
00:28:16.920But there are about five or six different witnesses, um, in, in the Bible to show that, uh, Adam was not the actual father of Cain.
00:28:24.480I think two of them are to do with genealogies that just cut him out completely from the genealogy.
00:28:30.660And then there's, uh, the bits of the saying, uh, Cain father, um, Cain was from the, the wicked one, sort of showing that, uh, he, he was the father.
00:28:38.360And then what you end up with is after the, after the flood, you get, I think it's, uh, Genesis 10.
00:28:44.860It tells you all the nations that are descended from Noah.
00:28:47.620And then after that, there are some nations that are actually in the land that are not descended from Noah.
00:28:52.940The name of one of these nations is Kenites.
00:28:55.860And if you look that up in the, um, uh, the concordance, and that tells you that that means of Cain or from Cain.
00:29:03.500So that's people that were descended from Cain and they were in the land of Canaan.
00:29:07.760And the Old Testament tells you that the Canaanites that were in the land of Canaan, they bred with the people that were in the land.
00:29:14.280That was one of the crimes that was, or sins that was, uh, imputed to them was that they interbred with the people in the land.
00:29:21.160The people that were in the land were these Kenites.
00:29:22.960So you get this, this line going from, uh, all the way from Cain to the Kenites, to the Canaanites.
00:29:31.580And then later on, the, the, one of these Canaanite women marrying Esau, which then becomes the Jews, basically.
00:29:39.060So you've got this line going all the way back to this, um, this curse that, uh, the seed of the woman will, will crush the head of the seed of the serpent.
00:29:47.860And the seed of the serpent will bite at the heels of the seed of the woman.
00:29:52.660So, so that's what that, that's what that is.
00:29:57.000So I suppose, um, there's either two ways that we can go into this one.
00:30:02.080We could just begin a discussion of the particular, um, claims here, or two, I could ask you to, in your own words, kind of address, um, a couple of things.
00:30:12.600So for me, the anthropology that you've presented, the descendants of, uh, the Volkswanderung of the Lost Tribes of Israel into Europe and on other places.
00:30:21.780Uh, as I've said before, uh, I have nothing against, or I have nothing for it.
00:30:27.560Um, I think it's fascinating, certainly something I'm interested in learning more about, but I don't have, um, any particular opinion on that claim.
00:30:35.000Um, but, so theologically, the claim, uh, that most Christian identitarians are making is that Jesus Christ and the salvific nature of his sacrifice on the cross and the new covenant in his blood is not a universal, um, call to all the nations, but rather only to those who are descended from Abraham?
00:30:56.820Well, to, yeah, to, to, to the nations that came from Abraham.
00:31:00.960I mean, there was a promise that, um, you know, that all, all of, uh, the descendants of Adam would have the eternal life.
00:31:08.320The sword, flashing sword was, was kept to keep the way to the, to the tree of life.
00:31:13.520Uh, so there was this promise made to Adam, but the, the rest of the nations that were descended from Noah, they, they all ended up, um, getting blended out.
00:31:22.940So you pretty much only got the, the, uh, the nations descended from Israel that are left now.
00:31:28.420And before then you had, uh, the other nation, the other Adamite nations, the other Aryan nations, but now pretty much all that's left that's white is, is, uh, Israel anyway.
00:31:40.060And that's, again, that's the prophecy that it says in, in the, uh, Old Testament and all the, all the promises, all the covenants are only made with one people.
00:31:48.080It says, you alone have I loved out of all the families of the earth.
00:31:52.140Uh, there's only one people that the law was given to and without the law, there is no sin.
00:31:56.460So it was only one people that it was necessary for, uh, Christ to come for and, and, and redeemed.
00:32:02.800And this, you know, this word, um, salvation, I mean, it means preservation is what it is closer to what it really means.
00:32:09.680You know, Israel will be preserved until the end and, uh, it'll be a big battle at the end.
00:32:15.220All, all the, you know, the, there's a verse in, um, revelations that talks about the seed, the woman and the seed of the woman.
00:32:23.700And she's being nourished away from the face of the serpent and the serpent opens his mouth and the big flood comes to wash away the woman.
00:32:29.520And the angel explains that this flood that comes out of the mouth of the serpent is all people's nations and tongues.
00:32:35.580And this, this I believe is, is the moment that we're at now.
00:32:38.380You know, the woman with, with child is, is the European nations.
00:32:41.700The European nations are always described as women, the same as, uh, Israel was the bride of God.
00:32:47.860And, uh, we're being flooded by these, by these other nations.
00:32:51.660And what's more, they're even coming from the same area.
00:32:53.460It talks about Gog and Magog, which is Syria and Turkey, that area there.
00:32:59.080So we've been flooded with these other nations.
00:33:01.600And that's the point that we're at, I believe in, um, in, in revelations.
00:33:05.700So they're really, you know, why would Jesus have to die on the cross to, for the sins of, of people that were never given the law anyway?
00:33:14.880You know, there was no gospel to the Chinese.
00:33:17.280There was no epistles to the Congoids.
00:33:20.220You know, it was all for one people, for the descendants of, um, Israel.
00:33:24.920I mean, you can show that the, the Romans, it was a large part descended from them.
00:33:30.120The Greeks were in large part descended from them.
00:33:32.680Um, and if they weren't descended from them, they were descended from Japheth.
00:33:35.860And, and Japheth, um, is in the tents of Shem.
00:33:39.200You know, he's, he's become absorbed pretty much by, uh, Israel.
00:33:43.240Any Japhethites that were in, uh, Europe would have become, tended to become absorbed by, um, by Israel once, once they came in, once they came into, uh, into the, onto the continent.
00:33:54.560So, you know, that, that's what that comes down to.
00:33:57.340And if the other races follow Christianity, obviously that's going to be a benefit to them.
00:34:03.080The same as, you know, looking and, and using your ears before you cross the road is so that you don't get run over.
00:34:08.880But there's, there's no, you know, there's no, there's nothing to actually show in the Bible that there's any eternal life for them or anything like that.
00:34:18.680It's all about Adam and, and the descendants of Adam that have this spirit, uh, breathed into him by the Lord God, which made him a living soul.
00:34:27.540And it's, it's all about the history of these people.
00:34:30.880So the others aren't described, there's no description of the Chinese being created, the Negroes being created, anything like that.
00:34:37.600It's, you know, that's not our responsibility.
00:34:39.980And I think it's wrong of us to try and explain it to them and, and, and try and share it with them.
00:34:46.200You know, we're told not to cast the pearls before swine and dogs, lest they turn and, and, and rend us, which is exactly what happens.
00:34:53.040You know, if you look at, um, churches in Haiti or churches in, in Africa, you know, they pretty quickly descend into voodoo once the white man isn't there.
00:35:04.180You know, they don't grasp the, these concepts.
00:35:06.640It's, it's not, it's not meant for them.
00:35:08.620I think it was only ever meant for, uh, for white people.
00:35:11.880And I don't, as I say, I don't think there was anything in the Bible which, um, you know, which suggests that it was supposed to be for anyone else other than the people that, that, you know, that the Bible talks about.
00:35:22.900The descendants of Adam, descendants of Noah, descendants of Shea.
00:35:25.580Yeah, we'll get, we'll get into that in a, in a little bit here.
00:35:27.660So I think that the way we ought to structure this is, um, what I, what I'll do is I will make kind of an opening, um, position of,
00:35:38.620my theology and the theology of the Orthodox Church.
00:35:41.600I'll let Doc Savage make a comment and then I'll try to respond to some of the specific claims that you've made, um, with my own assertions or my own critiques.
00:35:55.200I mean, I've got, um, when I was looking up these, these verses earlier when you were saying about where does it, um, come from, I mean, just from some of these passages that I've got in, uh, in Romans here, I mean, it makes it clear that it's only for one, for one people that these promises were for.
00:36:09.660Right. So what, from my perspective, the theological assertions specifically, disregarding the anthropology, that salvation is limited to one particular blood group of the elect is, um, erroneous and incorrect.
00:36:27.680The teaching of the Orthodox Church, um, since, since the beginning is that Jesus Christ in his incarnation was united to humanity as a, as a whole.
00:36:40.360Okay. And so the Orthodox Church rejects the serpent seed line hypothesis.
00:36:46.560So it does not believe that there was a separate, um, uh, genesis for different races of mankind.
00:36:52.900And even if we were to accept that in the case of the antediluvian times, it would postulate that, you know, those people did not survive into the future.
00:37:01.920So part, I, that's, that's aside, we're going to get into the nitty gritty, but just, you know, straight away, that's something that I think myself and the theology of the Orthodox Church has a serious disagreement with,
00:37:11.900is that it does not believe that, um, salvation is intended for one particular group of people descended by blood from the ancient, uh, Israel, but rather for the nations as a totality.
00:37:24.300Um, and so we'll get into that in a bit. Doc, would you like me to make a comment?
00:37:28.480Yeah. Um, so, um, please bear with me. I'm going to have, I'm going to try to be very careful, uh, with, with, uh, how I phrase things.
00:37:38.100Um, so if, if we believe in a literal creation, a literal garden, a literal reading of the Genesis story, which I certainly do, and I believe, um, anyone who claims to, um, be bound by the seven ecumenical councils, uh, is bound to do, um,
00:38:00.980then I think we have to say that the sacrifice on the cross was to heal the original sin, right?
00:38:10.020Um, and, and what this implies to me, and I think, um, I think, Florian, you'll agree, is that in principle, salvation is available to all nations.
00:38:24.920Now, whether or not any particular nation attained salvation, I mean, that's, that's a, um, that's a question of particular circumstances, uh, of whether or not hearts are converted.
00:38:41.740Uh, certainly. Well, the example we used earlier when talking about this is that, you know, the position of the Orthodox Church would be, yes, theoretically, salvation is even open to, um, you know, the Jews who rejected Christ if they were to repent.
00:38:53.400But, um, but, I mean, we can see in practice, you know, how many Jews out of 100,000 will actually convert to Orthodox Christianity, right?
00:39:01.500Less than, you know, uh, I think you'd be hard-pressed to find one.
00:39:07.200The, uh, uh, yeah, the, uh, the, there's already a word for, uh, Jew of goodwill. It's called the Church of Jerusalem.
00:40:35.640Well, the tradition, the Orthodox Church would say that these are the descendants of Ham, who was cursed.
00:40:39.400Well, where do they get the idea that, uh, you know, Noah's curse of Canaan turned Ham's descendants black?
00:40:47.220You know, that's something that comes from the Talmud, is, is, is that, that was, that was suggested by the Jews.
00:40:51.740There's, there's no, um, you know, there's no justification for that in the Old Testament or in, um, Noah's curse, which, which was on Canaan.
00:41:01.860But if you look at, um, what Jesus said, I've just got a short quote here from Matthew.
00:41:06.240It says, and before him shall be gathered all nations, and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats.
00:41:14.900And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, and the goats on the left.
00:41:18.300So you've got, you know, you've got sheep and goats, and their nations are not individuals.
00:41:47.380Right, and so I think that the most productive way for me is might to be good to go through a few of the claims and offer counter arguments,
00:41:52.720and then to look at a few of the passages, passages in scripture, which I believe, um, refute this claim.
00:41:57.880Right, so, um, the first place to start would be the, the prophecy of, um, you know, in Genesis when we find the, um, the prophecy that the, um, I will sow enmity between, uh, your seed and the seed of the woman.
00:42:13.680So the teaching of the Orthodox Church on the subject is that the woman of, um, Genesis is revealed in, uh, the writings of John the Evangelist.
00:42:23.600So John in his gospel, when he's referring to the mother of our Lord, only describes her as the woman.
00:42:30.840And furthermore, this is the way that she is described in the book of Revelation, as the woman.
00:42:35.480And so the teaching of the Orthodox Church is that this is describing the Blessed Virgin Mary, who is a sign or is a, um, a type of the church.
00:42:45.440That the Blessed Virgin Mary in herself received the fullness of the Holy Spirit.
00:42:50.440This is what, I mean, the term full of grace means up to the brim, nothing more can be filled in the Greek.
00:42:57.160And so the Virgin Mary acts as the tabernacle of the new covenant.
00:43:02.540Christ in his body and blood was incarnated in her by the power of the Holy Spirit, not by the will of man, the seed of man, right, or by the flesh of mankind, which is to say, you know, um, you know, the actual genetic material of man aside from, you know, her own chromosomes.
00:43:20.440So that would be the first kind of refutation.
00:43:24.000The second thing is, um, um, historically speaking, the idea that the apostles did not only exclusively minister to the peoples of Europe is in fact untrue.
00:43:33.520Um, we've got direct historical evidence telling us that the apostle Thomas went as far as, uh, northern India in terms of his, uh, evangelizing.
00:43:45.640And so you might make the argument that, okay, at this time in history, the northern Indians were essentially Aryan people, but this is, but this is strange because immediately after this, the apostolic communities that he founded in northern India went and evangelized the southern part of the country was at, which is black.
00:44:02.700And so there are, you know, um, uh, direct evidence in the, the, the southern part of, uh, India of parishes that are 1800, 1900 years old.
00:44:56.100And what were the people that wrote that thinking for 5,000 years before Jesus came?
00:45:01.360You know, what was the point of that, that being there about this, uh, seed of the, the serpent biting at the heels of the, of the seed of the woman?
00:45:09.880You know, the seed of the woman, I believe.
00:45:11.420And church fathers would interpret this to be allegorical.
00:45:13.860So they're talking about the spiritual seed of the devil.
00:45:17.460I mean, this is what our, our Lord says, that you are the children of the devil, the sons of the devil, because you do his work.
00:45:22.920And I mean, our Lord himself also talks about this in John 8, uh, in John 8 31.
00:45:29.600I don't think it says because they do his work.
00:45:34.580Well, I'll read to you, I'll read to you John 8 31, and we can go back to that in a moment.
00:45:38.480So, Jesus then said to the Jews who had believed in him, if you continue in my word, you are truly my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.
00:45:49.560They answered him, we are the descendants of Abraham and have never been in bondage to anyone.
00:45:54.520How is it that you say, uh, you will be made free?
00:45:57.740Because, of course, these are the, uh, these are the Judeans that he's speaking to, uh, the southern tribe of Judah, who, uh, were not dispersed by the Assyrians.
00:46:05.500Jesus answered them, truly, truly, I say to you, every one of you who commits sin is a slave to sin.
00:46:12.400The sin does not continue, uh, the slave does not continue in the house forever.
00:47:36.800He says, you know, you could raise up stones right now that were going to be Abraham's children, but they're not the children of the promise.
00:47:42.780It's only the children that were descended from that promise that was made with Abraham that counts.
00:47:48.480Sure, they were partially descendants.
00:47:50.040What you're referring to is the calling of John the Baptist in the wilderness when the chief priests and the scribes and the Pharisees visit him to inquire.
00:47:57.820And they're asking him if he is the Messiah.
00:48:00.500And John says to them, you know, why have you decided to flee before the appointed time?
00:48:05.220He's, you know, you say that you are sons of Abraham.
00:48:07.640I tell you that God can raise up from stones, right, from people who are outside of the bloodline of Abraham, those who are the sons of Abraham, bear fruits fitting of repentance.
00:48:18.020So he's telling them to amend their way specifically.
00:48:21.160That blood is not enough, that what one has to do is demonstrate works of contrition.
00:48:25.420I think he's saying the opposite there, because he's saying he could raise up stone, you know, he could raise up children from stones, but they still wouldn't be the children of the promise.
00:48:32.960They still wouldn't be the children of the faith that Abraham had.
00:48:35.960Abraham's faith was that the promise would be kept, that many nations would come from his loins.
00:48:42.360That was Abraham's faith, and they were the children of the promise.
00:48:46.120And it tells you later on in the New Testament, it talks about descendants and children.
00:48:51.240And yes, those Jews were descendants, but they did have two fathers.
00:48:55.660They were descended from Edomians, as well as from Judah.
00:49:00.560And there's a bit, just trying to think, there's another bit there about that bit where he says about the father being the devil that can be traced back to Malachi,
00:49:12.060where it talks about being the children of a strange god, marrying the daughter of a strange god,
00:49:18.760which was, you know, marrying the Canaanites, basically.
00:53:54.840So the counter-postulation on the part of the church fathers would be that these verses are speaking allegorically of the whole of humanity.
00:54:03.860So it's not the particular promise to the descendants of Jacob, or rather the descendants of Isaac,
00:54:10.300but it is the promise to the entirety of humanity.
00:54:14.700So, you know, I understand that you disagree very sharply on there, so I don't want to get cut off in one particular issue, but I want to address broadly.
00:55:59.400So you have the word, but the way we interpret the word has to agree with the way the word has been interpreted in the past, past, with tradition.
00:56:09.860That it's – there's specific passages, especially in the New Testament, where it says, you know, do these things that you have heard from us.
00:56:20.560Not just what is written, but there's also – not everything is written down.
00:56:25.600You know, there's also word of mouth involved.
00:56:27.860And so that's where the sort of – the idea of apostolic tradition, of holy tradition enters into the stream.
00:56:38.980There's – there's language that seems to speak of other nations, not of Abraham, being grafted into Israel, right?
00:56:59.740And I think, you know, the image of the church has always been the body of Christ, and that body is envisioned as a vineyard in some passages or in some images, right?
00:57:25.740So there's this language and there's this metaphor all throughout the New Testament of grafting new branches into this vineyard.
00:57:42.420And I – it seems to me that there is a biological component here that we're talking about,
00:57:52.180but that the Lord chooses who is his children and who isn't, right?
00:58:06.700It's not determined purely by biological processes.
00:58:11.580And I think – I think the historical question that we should answer, that we should seek to come to an understanding on,
00:58:23.980is going to be the Church of Ethiopia, right?
00:58:26.780And the conversion of the Ethiopian Enoch.
00:58:42.640I have a lot of respect for people in the Church and priests in the Church and people that study all of this.
00:58:49.060But I think there's been a problem with letting the Jews in there to help with the translations of the Bible and letting the Jews into the Church.
00:58:57.180I mean, we know that they – we know what they're like.
00:59:01.200And we know that they funded a lot of the Bible printing in the 16th and the 17th century.
00:59:08.140Right, but my Church doesn't use one that was produced by – the Orthodox Church uses as its prime, ultimate scripture the Septuagint.
00:59:16.640These Jews have still been – well, the Septuagint, yeah, that's good – but the Jews have still been in the Church causing these problems.
00:59:24.840And when you were talking there about the vineyard and the grafting of branches, I mean, again, that's in Romans.
00:59:31.220That's Paul talking to the Romans who were descended from Israel anyway.
00:59:34.800And they could only have been descended from Israel if you look at the wording of what he says.
01:00:18.220It's not an almond tree being grafted in there with the olive tree.
01:00:22.120It's olive branches being grafted into an olive tree.
01:00:26.260Right, and I think that the fundamental departure in hermeneutic in the manner of interpretation is that when the tradition of the Church reads this allegory, they do not accept the serpent seed line hypothesis.
01:00:38.040So, you know, when we talk about the grafting into the tree, they're speaking of the nations that broke off from God's righteousness after the flood, the descendants of Noah, that are grafted into the true Israel in spirit in the blood of Jesus Christ.
01:00:57.520And so I appreciate and understand that you do not agree with this interpretation and that your perspective comes from a hermeneutic, which presupposes that there is a second bloodline descended from the devil and Eve.
01:01:12.700Okay, but this is one that this particular theological claim is found nowhere in Orthodox tradition.
01:01:19.940And it's, you know, it's soundly rejected.
01:01:23.420So what we can do is what I figure is we're getting towards the end of our first hour.
01:01:28.280So what I think that we should do is probably end it here.
01:01:30.800And then we'll come back in the second hour and discuss a few more of these verses that and talk a little bit more about the subject.
01:01:37.060And then we'll go on to Kali Yuga News.
01:07:55.740And kind of wrap things up, and then we'll move into Kali Yuga news.
01:08:00.680So, you know, one of the scriptural verses that Doc Savage mentioned before he had to leave that I think is important to discuss is Acts 8, 26 to 40.
01:09:04.180Now, the passage of the scripture that he was reading was this.
01:09:06.360As a sheep led to the slaughter, as a lamb before its shearer is dumb, so he opens not his mouth, and his humiliation justice was denied him.
01:09:30.360So, you know, obviously, the reason why this verse would be pertinent is the assertion that the Ethiopian eunuch being, you know, from Ethiopia is a Nylotic African, right?
01:09:48.120And that Philip is evangelizing one of the, you know, Ethiopes from the Lower Nile.
01:09:54.760Why do you think he's a Nylotic African, though?
01:09:59.460Because, I mean, I would say that he was clearly not a Negro.
01:10:19.140And if you look in the Old Testament, it says about the Amorites, all the Amorites that were not of the children of Israel, which shows you that, which means that there were Israelites that were living in the area that before that was an Amorite area.
01:10:32.340When it talks about Ruth the Moabite, it doesn't mean that Ruth is a Moabite.
01:10:36.460It means that Ruth is living in the area of Moab, which the Israelites removed all the Moabites for 200 years.
01:10:43.660We have the same problem today when we talk about people being British, and they're actually Negroes or Sikhs.
01:10:49.780So, where it's actually saying Ethiopian there, it doesn't mean that it's a Negro.
01:10:54.640Ethiopia, if you look at Deodorus Siculus, wrote about Ethiopia.
01:11:00.000He wrote about there being two distinct peoples there.
01:11:02.140There was one highly civilized people that lived the same as the Greeks.
01:11:06.440And there was a barbaric, uncivilized savage that ran around naked, that was black and had a flat nose.
01:11:12.040And I would say that it was the type that was the same as the Greeks, the civilized type that was sitting there reading the scriptures.
01:11:20.220The question I have about that verse is that it says that he's a eunuch, and it tells you in the Old Testament that he who is wounded in the stones cannot be a part of the congregation.
01:11:29.380So, I think when it says that he's a eunuch, he was far more likely to be a celibate rather than a eunuch.
01:11:35.860But I don't believe that that was a Negro. I don't think it ever could have been a Negro.
01:11:40.740In Judea, you had proselytes of the gate, proselytes of righteousness, and these Judeans were accepting all and sundry.
01:11:50.660And Jesus said, every proselyte they make, they make twice the child of hell as themselves.
01:11:55.240So, the fact that this guy was in Ethiopia tells me that he was far more likely to be a Hebrew in Ethiopia, a white Hebrew in Ethiopia.
01:12:05.200And that's why he was reading Hebrew scriptures, and that's why Philip was able to talk to him about it.
01:12:10.800And he was able to bring that back to his people in Ethiopia.
01:12:14.720That would be my interpretation of it.
01:12:17.120And that's without studying it, but that's the way that I would interpret that.
01:12:21.500And I'd have a big question about him being a real eunuch and not having any testicles, because that's proscribed in the Old Testament.
01:12:32.240Right. And so, the response of the Orthodox would be that, well, there's a couple of things that I would bring up.
01:12:38.680But, I mean, one is the modern evidence and B is historical evidence for the racial category of Ethiopia.
01:12:48.900So, I mean, if we look at the interactions of the Egyptians and their graphical depictions of their forays into the lands of the Lower Nile River,
01:12:59.800I mean, it's pretty obvious, it's clear, I mean, from the depictions that these are not, you know, these are Negroids, that these are like lower Nileotic Negroids.
01:13:10.960And so, there's a, you know, whether there was two different groups of people living there, you know, that's a subject that I cannot speak to.
01:13:18.700But I would say that that, number one, establishes.
01:13:21.260And, number two, I mean, we can even see in modern-day Ethiopia that, like, the Ethiopian Orthodox Church styles themselves as being, indeed, the Israelites, the descendants of the Israelites.
01:13:31.720You know, and the black priests, you know, they have to memorize the Bible in Ga'ez before they can be admitted to, you know, their testing for ordination to the priesthood.
01:13:42.380You know, and these are not, you know, fair, ruddy, Adamic men, as you say, but are, you know, quite swarthy.
01:18:13.200And again, you still had these little black tribes that were living there, the same as they're still living today and the same as they were 4,000 years ago.
01:18:21.780Or at the time when Diodorus Siculus was writing about them.
01:18:27.580That's an interesting anthropological take.
01:18:29.520I guess the fundamental rebuttal of this for both in the instance of Ethiopia and in the instance of India is that archaeological and historical evidence demonstrates that there was wide-scale proselytization with both the whites and the Negroes.
01:18:49.480I mean, in the southern part of India, the south of Kerala, which is on the eastern side of India, this is where these Dravidians come from.
01:19:00.120This is their homeland, whereas the Aryans came down, as you say, from the Hindu Kush Valley and from the Indus Valley, right?
01:19:08.120And so that's why you have the colored gradient where the ones in the north are more white, more Arab for guys from around the area of Punjab.
01:19:17.980And then if you go to the south, you go to Kerala, they're clearly more Dravidian.
01:19:21.220And so we can see that in Kerala – I mean, we know historically that there are parishes that are 1,800, 1,900 years old.
01:19:28.180And these are not the – this is not the land of the Aryans, but rather this is the land of the Dravidians.
01:19:34.160So, I mean, I think that – I'm not certain how useful it would be to – I want to give more of a larger overview, right?
01:19:42.680We can always come back to the details at a different time, but, you know, obviously I think there's some merit to what you're saying.
01:19:49.000Okay. I mean, I just – you know, we can look around us at the way things are now.
01:19:52.920We can say, oh, yeah, it's very black there.
01:24:41.940And the true worshippers worship the father in spirit and truth.
01:24:45.240For such the father seeks to worship him.
01:24:47.040God is spirit and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.
01:24:53.500The woman said to him, I know that the Messiah is coming, he who is called Christ.
01:24:58.840When he comes, he will show us all things.
01:25:02.520Jesus said to her, I who speak to you am he.
01:25:07.500There's a couple of critical things here, both in terms of what Jesus is saying, in terms of his self-revelation, in terms of who the Samaritans are.
01:25:14.380So, I mean, the Samaritans are some of the descendants of the northern tribes of Israel that were deported and raised mixed with the Assyrians and eventually came back and settled in the land of Samaria.
01:25:27.660And so they were reviled by the Jews for being, you know, mongrels, right, the children of fornication for worshipping.
01:25:37.200And the big thing is that they worshipped false idols.
01:25:40.120That the Samarian religion was a blend of the Mosaic religion and Yewa-ism, if you choose to use the term, and local pagan worship.
01:25:49.380Even the term five husbands, it's speaking literally of her fornicating nature, right, because she's not married, she's not adultery, but it's fornication.
01:25:59.360But also the gods that the Samaritans had been fornicating with.
01:26:04.700They had five different pagan gods that they worshipped alongside Yewa in their pantheon.
01:26:10.480And so what this woman, this fornicator, right, this whore, mongrel, right, descendant of, you know, of iniquity and fornication, this woman is the first one since Moses who God reveals himself to.
01:26:30.100When at the end, in verse 26, Jesus said to her, I who speak to you am he.
01:26:37.080In the Greek, what he's saying is, I am.
01:26:40.440He's taking the divine name Yewa unto himself, right?
01:26:45.240And this is a revelation of his divinity to this woman.
01:26:48.340And so, I mean, and his disciples come back, and, you know, they see, of course, that what he's talking to this, you know, fornicating, you know, mongrel, who is so dishonorable among her own people that she has to come to the well at noon in the heat of the day without any of the other women, right?
01:27:07.540Because she's been cast out from her own people.
01:27:13.400This is the one whom Christ chooses to reveal his divinity to.
01:27:17.480So the church looks at this as an allegory for the non-Israelites, that it is exactly the people who had, you know, the children of fornication, who were idol worshippers, who were adulterous, and all of these things filled with iniquity that Christ comes and reveals himself to.
01:27:39.980What makes you think she's a mongrel when she said, our father, and he never challenged her on that?
01:27:47.480Well, she was, she could be, the Samaritans were descended patrilineally from Israel, from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and the, they themselves considered that they were part of Israel, but they adultered, they mongrelized with the Philistines that lived there, and also their religion was one that was mixed with idol worship.
01:29:50.800If she'd been a mongrel, I dare say he would have pointed it out.
01:29:55.600So, and it's good to, it's good to get your perspective on it.
01:29:58.800And I think that we're kind of coming to the end.
01:30:02.840And I think that this kind of feeds back nicely into what I think that the fundamental point of departure is between your interpretation of scripture and the Orthodox interpretation of scripture.
01:30:12.100Whereas for the Orthodox, the New Testament was composed by the apostles.
01:30:16.380And so we believe that they composed this in the context of the church.
01:30:20.780So John, who wrote these words, taught all of his teachings to the disciple, his disciple, Polycarp.
01:30:27.180And Polycarp was the disciple, was the master of St. Irenaeus of Lyon and so on.
01:30:34.000And so we can directly trace the apostles who wrote these things and their descendants through the church.
01:30:39.860And of course, St. Irenaeus of Lyon talks about the need for bishops and the one visible body of the church and these sort of things.
01:30:45.580And so for us, this scripture has to be interpreted within the light of tradition that comes down from the apostles.
01:30:52.780And so the fundamental starting position of the Orthodox is that all the people of the earth are descended from Adam.
01:30:58.120And so I think that this is really the key theological difference between our two interpretations of scripture, whereas because you believe in the serpent seed line hypothesis that there is this canine race, which comes not from Adam, but comes from Eve and the serpent, that the interpretation changes dramatically.
01:31:17.820And, you know, and so, you know, I would give you an opportunity to comment on that.
01:31:24.780I don't think, you know, of course, this is an issue that will be resolved today.
01:31:28.160Well, I mean, whether, you know, there's a serpent seed line or not, the Bible clearly tells us who is descended from Adam, who is created by God.
01:31:39.940And we can trace those nations back to these early white nations.
01:31:44.620And then it tells you about the descendants of Abraham.
01:31:47.860And we can trace who the Romans are, who the Greeks are.
01:32:02.420They're not included as a part of that creation.
01:32:07.580So it really doesn't, you know, to me, it just, it doesn't concern them.
01:32:11.620I mean, there's a serpent seed line hypothesis, which does explain some things.
01:32:17.480There's also a single seed line hypothesis, which just goes back to Esau, because there are, of course, there are all these prophecies about Esau and Esau caused all these problems.
01:32:28.380But, you know, that's, you know, sort of separate to the real issue, I think.
01:32:35.760The real issue is that it's all about the book of the generations of Adam, his descendants, and what happened to them.
01:32:43.360And they were the ones that all the promises were made to.
01:32:46.460There was no outreach in China or outreach in the Sahara to the Arabs, even.
01:32:53.680I mean, the word Arab in Hebrew means mongrel race, means mixed race.
01:32:58.660That's what happened to these descendants of Noah.
01:33:03.760Well, it's actually interesting that you mentioned China, because we do have evidence of this occurring.
01:33:07.960Even as early as the 6th and the 5th centuries, there were monasteries that were being built in Tibet by Assyrian missionaries who had traveled across the Silk Road through India and into China.
01:33:19.740And, in fact, these were the first people to evangelize the Chinese.
01:33:24.240And we have, you know, we have these, you can go and some of the buildings still stand of these Christian monasteries from the 5th and 6th century, built in the local Buddhist architectural style.
01:33:39.100Yet they were made by the Assyrian Church of the East.
01:33:45.520And so, you know, I think, you know, the teaching of the Orthodox Church is that all of the nations of the world descend from Adam and then through Noah.
01:33:54.960And that the traditional interpretation by the Church Fathers would be that the, you know, the Negroes are the descendants of the Hamites.
01:34:01.220So, you know, obviously I understand that you disagree with me.
01:34:07.820What is the Church teaching then on where the Chinese come from?
01:34:11.200If they say that the Negroes came from, through this curse on Cain or Ham, then where do they say the Arabs came from and where do they say the Chinese came from?
01:34:20.460Well, they believe that the Arabs are descendants of Shem, typically speaking, is what's posited, and that the Asians are an intermix of Japhethites and Shemites.
01:34:33.880But how come Shem looked different to Japheth then?
01:35:58.860But, like, there's one particular phenotypical expression of the Chinese that's called epicentric folds or something like this.
01:36:03.680And it has to do with the particular way that their eyes are built, the slanted eyes of the Chinese.
01:36:10.240And we see that this particular phenotypical expression is also found in Europe, mostly among the Finns.
01:36:15.300I mean, now, there have been, you know, like many genetic studies that have been done on, you know, the Finns and on people from northern Russia.
01:36:21.660And, you know, the idea of, like, mass mongrelization with Asiatics is not really held up by genetic testing.
01:36:29.640So I would use that as an example that, you know, we can see that, you know, there are certain northern European people who are incredibly fair who bear these phenotypical expressions that we see in eastern Asiatics.
01:36:47.540I mean, but I think that what's important is just to kind of, you know, give Christian identitarians and, you know, like a fair hearing and to express, you know, what their point of view is.
01:36:59.340And I wanted to make, you know, my responses from the orthodox point of view.
01:37:03.000And so, I mean, for me, what I wanted to clarify is that when I criticize particular theological assertions or theological doctrines, and I believe that they're erroneous or heretical, okay, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a critique of the people who subscribe to them.
01:37:23.900So there are many people who are Protestants who are more virtuous than I am, that are very good men, stand-up men, great people.
01:37:31.800But that doesn't mean that Protestantism itself is not fundamentally incorrect and fallacious.
01:37:37.200You know, and so likewise, what I was trying to express a couple of episodes ago was that I view the attempt to divinize the white race as being a species of white Talmudism.
01:37:47.260Right, which is, you know, and so that's what I, for me, when I see the idea that salvation is fundamentally limited to those who are the descendants of Europeans, right, and the justification that's used to, you know,
01:38:02.520like I was called an historian heretic because I was denying the incarnation of Christ as a white man.
01:38:09.900And so for me, these sort of assertions suggest that the narrative that's being constructed is that the white race is being divinized in its unity with Christ.
01:38:18.700And so that's why I'm in the context that I made those comments in.
01:38:22.060It wasn't specifically to insult or critique specific people.
01:38:25.880There are many good Christian identitarians who are, you know, honorable and God-fearing men and women.
01:38:31.100And I wanted to just also say that even though we have theological disagreements that are very sharp, you know,
01:38:37.180I'm glad to consider you, you know, one of my friends, and we can politically work towards the same ends despite our differences.
01:38:44.700Definitely. Definitely. I agree with you there about the white race shouldn't be divinized.
01:38:49.820You know, you tend to see this quite a lot in nationalism.
01:38:52.420People say, oh, my race is my religion. Just, you know, it's all about the race.
01:38:57.160You know, if he chooses to bless the white race, and I believe he has chosen to bless the white race in a way that the other races aren't blessed,
01:41:50.840How about, let's read some news here from Sweden.
01:41:59.540Now, Sweden, we're very famous for being a, you know, very progressive country.
01:42:03.620So progressive that the refugees who are lying about their age, when they enter Sweden and some, you know, cat lady migration board worker decide, you know, to have sex with this refugee.
01:42:21.280This migration board worker is being accused for being a pedophile.
01:42:39.260Let me just translate this article a bit as I go here.
01:42:42.140A Swedish woman that took care of a refugee child in her home, wow, is now accused for rape against minor after having sex with a boy that is claiming to be 14.
01:43:02.440Now, they just claim to be 14, so they get asylum.
01:46:32.700Zyger writes in the Socialist Soviet Republic of Sweden, publicly expressing even faint mixed givings about state-sponsored religion of ethnic suicide can get you in hot water.
01:46:44.320But as their society is collapsing before their eyes, those on the front lines are starting to flip out.
01:46:49.180We have more and more men willing to face the intense backlash and discuss the truth.
01:46:52.780Peter Springer, a police investigator and former deputy head of the Division for Serious Crimes at the police in Orobro, has been reported to the police after he and a post on Facebook spoke plainly about those who are behind the serious crimes.
01:47:07.460The report to the police comes out after the local newspaper, Nerequez Alejandra, found the outspoken policeman to be racist.
01:47:14.780The usual solution to silence any criticism in a politically correct country.
01:53:37.320Not, you know, the high middle class, you know, bourgeois people, you know, who have recently, you know, decent, in economically speaking, you know, upbringing and all this stuff.
01:53:49.860I mean, they haven't had to face this shit.
01:53:52.860They live in, you know, better areas and all this shit.
01:53:55.700And these people, they keep whining on poor Swedes and they call these poor Swedes, like uneducated, you know, peasants and all this, all this shit, really.
01:54:06.700And that's just because the poor Swedes actually live close to this.
01:54:11.480They have seen this shit because they can't really escape it.
01:54:13.680They don't have the money to escape it.
01:54:15.980So it's not really about them being stupid or anything.
01:55:41.060I guess this is more kind of the spur-off point to discuss a little bit the situation with the settlement of the West Bank, Palestine, by the Israelis.
02:04:42.200And if you want a second contract, like, if you're going to study up there, you have to pay, like, I don't know, 500, 550 euros a month for a room in someone's apartment.
02:04:51.900I mean, that's how it was, like, before, I mean, in this summer, when I was looking for housing up there.
02:04:59.360And you're not even guaranteed to have it.
02:05:01.700I mean, it's very hard even to get that.
02:07:12.600It's been argued that Sweden may be losing the leaders jersey on gender equality rates, but the OECD says that it remains far ahead of most countries in the world.
02:07:22.780Women have a high employment rate, outperforming in education.
02:07:26.340They are well represented in government and parliament.
02:07:29.800However, it also notes that Sweden needs to work harder to get more women entrepreneurs onto the country's booming startup industry.
02:11:44.720If women don't have control over their bodies and their own fate, it can have very serious consequences for the global goals of gender rights and global poverty eradication.
02:11:52.180Sweden Deputy Prime Minister Isabella Löfven told Reuters today.
02:11:58.680The French government recently criminalized information websites that exert psychological or moral pressure on pregnant women to not go through with an abortion.
02:12:09.180Violators will face up to two years in prison and a 30,000 euro fine.
02:13:40.120You heard the Deputy Prime Minister herself.
02:13:41.840This is all about gender rights and global poverty eradication.
02:13:47.100So, in other words, it's about population control and management.
02:13:49.700Global population control and management.
02:13:51.260I mean, when Trump kind of maybe struck one head of the hydrop, you'll get like, what was this, four other heads, five other heads, six other heads?
02:15:50.600You know, and it's just, it's like, you know, after you see it, I mean, you can't substantiate that position.
02:15:59.720I mean, you just, like, there's no way.
02:16:02.520Unless you're so spiritually dead that it's just, you know, the sight of a child being murdered, you know, being chopped up, dismembered, and sucked out of a mother's womb does fucking nothing for you.
02:16:14.160Yeah, and here's the thing, by the way.
02:16:15.520In Sweden, the people who do the abortions are the same people who deliver babies.
02:16:20.040And if they don't want to do the abortions, then, you know, that's, they're fine, because it's a part of the Yop description.
02:16:27.300We don't have, you know, special abortionists in the same way.
02:16:49.240You know, you don't like to look at it, but I think it is important that we do look at things like that and explain it in the way that we do.
02:16:57.480You know, the news, they're going to put it across, as we've just seen there, it's mother's rights and family planning, and it's against the nasty, evil Trump.
02:17:07.880And the truth of it is, it's just absolutely horrific.
02:17:09.860It's mothers murdering their own children in the one place where they should be safe.
02:17:22.040By the way, just a quick, quick look at an actual lost article here.
02:17:27.600I'm just going to, you know, mention it briefly here.
02:17:30.240One of the big newspapers here, owned by the Bolivian oligarchs, who are, you know, merchants, or merchants, perhaps you should say.
02:17:39.080They were accused in court, this newspaper, for spreading, well, libel, essentially, against a six-year-old pensioner, because he wrote nasty things on the internet, apparently.
02:17:53.500Now, they warped what this guy even wrote, but they published it, they published it with name, face, all this, essentially doxxed him, and ascribed false statements to him.
02:18:03.220Now, the court system in Sweden is, it's like something out of a Kafka novel, right?
02:18:10.440You are faced with political judges, politically appointed judges, like a political jury, essentially.
02:18:19.880I mean, that's what essentially this is, it's a political jury.
02:18:25.020And there's not even, you know, a good balance in the politicians you meet, so it's insane.
02:18:33.060Anyway, the decision of this political jury, they don't need to show the reasons why they, you know, acted as they did, at least not in freedom of speech cases, because it's freedom of speech cases.
02:18:50.700I mean, what about this man's freedom of speech?