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00:01:49.000 Welcome to Mysterium Fashi's episode 16,

00:01:53.000 Christian Identity.

00:01:55.000 I'm your host, Florian Geyer,

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00:01:59.000 two guests, although

00:02:01.000 very likely one other will be joining us.

00:02:03.000 Today I have with me Doc Savage.

00:02:05.000 Thank you for coming on.

00:02:07.000 Glad to be here. Thanks for having me.

00:02:09.000 Excellent.

00:02:11.000 And I've got a special guest,

00:02:13.000 Sven Longshanks from Radio Arian.

00:02:15.000 Thanks for coming on, Sven.

00:02:17.000 Thank you for inviting me, Florian.

00:02:19.000 Well, it's a pleasure, you know.

00:02:21.000 You've been syndicating your stuff on Radio Arian

00:02:23.000 for quite some time and, you know,

00:02:25.000 I do respect you

00:02:27.000 and enjoy your work personally.

00:02:28.000 So it's good to have you on for the first time.

00:02:30.000 Well, I know our listeners really enjoy

00:02:33.000 the product that you produce.

00:02:35.000 It's well produced.

00:02:36.000 The content is really interesting stuff

00:02:38.000 and it especially appeals to Christians

00:02:41.000 and obviously a lot of our listeners are Christians.

00:02:43.000 There are a lot of Christian nationalists out there

00:02:45.000 and I think Mysterium Fashies does feel a void that was there before.

00:02:49.000 There just wasn't a podcast of that quality that was available.

00:02:54.000 So I'm really pleased that you met that you're making it also with the panel that you use.

00:02:58.000 And I'm very pleased that we can get it on Radio Arian every week.

00:03:02.000 So, yeah, it's just, you know, I'm really grateful that you're actually producing it.

00:03:06.000 Excellent. That's excellent.

00:03:08.000 I'm very glad to hear it.

00:03:12.000 Well, let's see.

00:03:13.000 I guess the reason why this topic came up is because, you know,

00:03:17.000 some of you who are listening diligently will know that I had some pretty harsh critiques

00:03:22.000 of Christian identity in the episode I did in Morality.

00:03:25.000 And I received quite an impassioned response from Christian identitarians

00:03:32.000 and people who defend that kind of position.

00:03:35.000 And so I thought that to give the subject a fair and just treatment,

00:03:38.000 I would have Sven on to kind of discuss it with us.

00:03:42.000 And so we could talk about the different ideas that it postulates

00:03:47.000 and, you know, just kind of give it a fair treatment.

00:03:51.000 So, Sven, I want to thank you for coming on and agreeing to do this podcast with me once again.

00:03:58.000 You're welcome. You're welcome.

00:04:00.000 I look forward to discussing these subjects.

00:04:03.000 I wouldn't say that I was an expert, but it is something that I enjoy researching

00:04:08.000 and there are aspects of it that I think I'm competent enough to answer questions on.

00:04:13.000 And there are some areas which I'm, you know, I'm not so good at.

00:04:18.000 That's well and fair enough.

00:04:20.000 Good.

00:04:21.000 So, you know, you already mentioned this, you know, that some of these first subjects we're going to be hitting

00:04:26.000 that you don't have as much of the depth, you know, as you might like, and that's well and fine.

00:04:30.000 But I thought we'd just go through them anyway.

00:04:33.000 So can you tell me a little bit about, you know, in your words, kind of in one or two sentences,

00:04:39.000 what is Christian identity and what are its origins?

00:04:42.000 Christian identity is the identification of the players in the Bible

00:04:48.000 and the identification of Israel as being the European nations

00:04:53.000 and the identification of the Jews as being descended from the Canaanites in the Old Testament.

00:05:00.000 So you've got the bad guys in the Old Testament are exactly the same as the bad guys in the New.

00:05:05.000 They're just called the Canaanites in the Old and they're called Esau or the Jews in the New.

00:05:11.000 And the Israel of the Old Testament is still Israel today, but it's the European nations.

00:05:18.000 So the essential difference is that the church teaches that there's a spiritual Israel,

00:05:23.000 which is the church, and Christian identity teaches, well, no, there's a physical Israel,

00:05:28.000 Israel, which is the European nations.

00:05:30.000 And that's who all the promises, the covenants, the prophecies, that's who it all applies to, not the Jews. 0.96

00:05:37.000 Fascinating.

00:05:38.000 Okay, so I think that's a really great definition.

00:05:43.000 What are the origins?

00:05:45.000 Where does it come from?

00:05:46.000 Who are some of the big critical thinkers?

00:05:48.000 How old is the tradition?

00:05:50.000 Well, I was looking at that question and it comes from the apostles.

00:05:55.000 I thought you probably wouldn't be to say, oh, this sort of this guy thought of this a century ago or somebody else two centuries ago.

00:06:02.000 But it really is the apostles.

00:06:04.000 I mean, I looked through today.

00:06:05.000 I had a quick look at Romans and there were just dozens of verses that are to do with it,

00:06:10.000 where Paul is telling the Romans that they're basically Israel.

00:06:14.000 I went on from there to look at Galatians, that there's more in that.

00:06:18.000 I had a look in Corinthians.

00:06:20.000 And, you know, all these these nations that he went to can all be shown that they were actually descended from Jacob Israel.

00:06:28.000 I can I can just read out some of these from from Romans.

00:06:31.000 This is Paul talking to the Romans.

00:06:33.000 He says, for when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these having not the law are a law unto themselves, which show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another. 0.94

00:06:53.000 The important part of that is it says that the Gentiles show the work of the law written in their hearts.

00:06:58.000 And that's a fulfillment of a prophecy in the Old Testament that the new covenant would be written in the hearts of Israel.

00:07:04.000 There would be a new new covenant with them and the law would be written in their hearts.

00:07:09.000 Certainly.

00:07:10.000 And this is a subject I'm interested in discussing from a scriptural standpoint, but I feel like we might want to say that for a little bit later when we get more into kind of the meat of the theology.

00:07:19.000 And just in the beginning, try to present, you know, the evolution of the idea, the major thinkers, you know, and of course, it has grounding, you know, in Scripture, and then kind of get to those once we have already established the anthropological background, the intellectual background.

00:07:36.000 OK, well, that amenable to you.

00:07:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:07:39.000 Well, I say that's, I think, where it stems from is looking at the epistles that Paul wrote.

00:07:46.000 And Jesus said that he only came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

00:07:50.000 And Paul went out to the nations.

00:07:53.000 And these nations, there's a big confusion about the word Gentiles.

00:07:57.000 People think it means non-Jew.

00:07:59.000 It's just the Jews that said that it means non-Jew.

00:08:01.000 It just means nations.

00:08:03.000 And Abraham was promised, the covenant that God made with Abraham was that many nations would come from his loins and a company of nations.

00:08:12.000 And the actual word used in the Old Testament there is goi.

00:08:15.000 So the promise with Abraham is that many goi would come from his loins. 0.99

00:08:20.000 And the word goi meant people group, nation back then.

00:08:24.000 And then that got Latinized to Gentile.

00:08:26.000 And a Gentile is a nation. 1.00

00:08:28.000 It wasn't an individual.

00:08:29.000 A Gentile is a nation. 1.00

00:08:30.000 And Gentiles is plural, nations.

00:08:33.000 So when Paul went out to the nations, he went out to the nations that had been promised to Abraham.

00:08:40.000 And I think what must have, that's how it started off.

00:08:43.000 And then I think it must have got universalized because the only people that became Christian at first were all European people.

00:08:51.000 The people in Rome, Greece, Europe, they all became Christian.

00:08:55.000 And then you had the Muslims started invading Christian areas. 0.98

00:08:59.000 And they would basically do what Muslims do. 1.00

00:09:02.000 They would ruin the genetic integrity of the area. 0.99

00:09:05.000 And then I think the church must have just been loathed to cut those people off.

00:09:10.000 So they kept the people in the church.

00:09:13.000 And in doing so, they lost the racial aspect of it.

00:09:18.000 And it all seemed to get forgotten.

00:09:20.000 And it was, you know, everything.

00:09:22.000 It's all meant for everybody.

00:09:23.000 It has all been universalized.

00:09:24.000 Christianity is for everyone.

00:09:26.000 Then you come nearer to the modern times and you've got missionaries going to Africa,

00:09:31.000 trying to convince them that they can be Christians and Japanese and Chinese.

00:09:36.000 And then we ended up with these great archaeological discoveries in the, I guess, the 18th and the 19th century.

00:09:45.000 One of them was the library at Nineveh.

00:09:48.000 And this library at Nineveh had loads and loads of cuneiform tablets in there.

00:09:52.000 And these cuneiform tablets were lots of stuff there that had all been produced for the king.

00:09:59.000 But a lot of them were from these spies that had been sent to a certain area that was under the Caspian Sea, I think,

00:10:06.000 and under the Black Sea, around that area.

00:10:08.000 And that's the exact same area that the tribes of Israel were deported to.

00:10:13.000 And these tablets, they make it quite clear that there's a group called Cymru that are there.

00:10:20.000 And the other word for them is Saka or Isaka.

00:10:24.000 And so this group that were there, they suddenly appear at that time.

00:10:29.000 The Israelites were deported to that area.

00:10:31.000 And then you also get all the Greek and the Roman reports say that in that area there was a group of people called the Scythians

00:10:38.000 and a group of people called the Cymurians.

00:10:40.000 And they're kind of in, you know, two different people there.

00:10:43.000 It was two different names for the same people.

00:10:45.000 And that was confirmed in...

00:10:47.000 There's a huge rock face in Iraq and there's a huge carving on it.

00:10:52.000 I think it's either Darius or Cyrus.

00:10:55.000 And it's in three or four different languages.

00:10:57.000 And that makes it clear that the people that he subdued were called Cymru and also Saka.

00:11:05.000 So there were the Cymurians and the Scythians. 0.68

00:11:07.000 And the word Khomri comes from King Omri, who was the king of the northern house of Israel.

00:11:14.000 So they got moved there.

00:11:16.000 Their name changed.

00:11:17.000 And then you can trace these from that.

00:11:19.000 We've managed to...

00:11:20.000 People have looked back in the old records and the chronicles of the countries of Europe.

00:11:26.000 And you can trace this migration route and you can trace this route from there into Europe.

00:11:31.000 And then suddenly you get these Germanic tribes that come bursting into Europe. 1.00

00:11:36.000 And you also get these Cymurians that are being pushed in front of them. 1.00

00:11:40.000 They became the Cymru, which is still the name for the Welsh today.

00:11:44.000 And these Germanic tribes, they also got their own back on Rome and a couple of other things which sort of fulfilled the prophecy that Israel was supposed to do in the Old Testament.

00:11:55.000 So there was a new name basically for new nations really that hadn't really been spoken about before in the histories.

00:12:03.000 And it all fitted in together from these archaeological discoveries.

00:12:07.000 There are other ones as well.

00:12:08.000 The Tel El Armana letters which talk about the Abiru and them also being the Saka.

00:12:14.000 There are these prisms that were found that talked about the campaigns of these Assyrian kings when they went in and took Judah and took Israel.

00:12:24.000 So there's all this archaeological evidence to show that these European nations came from the tribes of Israel basically.

00:12:34.000 And then you had a group called British Israel.

00:12:36.000 They sort of latched on to this, but they really wanted to use it to try and justify the British Empire and to say that because they just really wanted to say that the British people were Israel.

00:12:49.000 And, you know, that was why they had the British Empire and they were going to rule over all these other nations.

00:12:54.000 But there's nothing in the Bible that says anything at all about ruling over these other nations.

00:12:58.000 Israel is supposed to be kept separate from the other races. 1.00

00:13:02.000 There's this very, very strong racial component to the Bible that the church just ignores.

00:13:08.000 So you ended up with people in America, nationalists in America, patriots in America that discovered this and discovered the Jewish side of it.

00:13:19.000 Because when you start trying to identify the people in the Bible, you've obviously got to identify the Jews and the history is all there.

00:13:25.000 It's a historical fact that the Jews descend from Esau, Edom, the Edomians, which goes back to the Canaanites.

00:13:32.000 So then you begin to get a historical story of this war between the Jews and between Israel and between the Canaanites and between Israel.

00:13:43.000 And there were also other people that were researching it. There's a famous German author. I can't think of his name right now.

00:13:50.000 And he wrote a book during the war and he was saying, you know, what's Hitler going to do when he discovers this, that, you know, it's the Europeans that are Israel and the Jews are these Canaanites.

00:13:58.000 So it was, that was around the time that it was starting to be worked out exactly, you know, how this, what was happening back then is playing out now in the, in the modern age.

00:14:09.000 And then Christian identity came about in, in America, really, they had these churches and all to do with the Ku Klux Klan and the American patriots, these Christian, Christian patriots.

00:14:21.920 And then it was discovered that it goes right back to, to Cain and, and these, the Canaanites can be traced back, back to Cain. 0.54

00:14:29.900 And then you start looking at the oldest manuscripts and, you know, there's, there's, you know, they're not quite certain that Adam was Cain's father.

00:14:39.000 And then you look through the Bible and you can actually find five or six witnesses in the Bible, which show that Cain, that Cain's father was not Adam.

00:14:46.020 I mean, versus saying that he was of the, of the wicked one or genealogies that don't actually include him.

00:14:52.940 Okay.

00:14:53.220 He was a writer.

00:14:53.880 No, that's fascinating.

00:14:55.480 So, and I just want to slow you down here because you said like a whole lot of different stuff, which is all great, but I think that we should kind of, you know, kind of go by more blow by blow.

00:15:03.440 You know what I'm saying?

00:15:04.500 Yeah.

00:15:04.700 I was just trying to give like an overview of, you know, it's great.

00:15:07.780 It's fantastic.

00:15:09.000 I, cause I had heard, um, I'd heard more or less all of this stuff, but it's good to hear it kind of laid out in a coherent narrative as you describe it.

00:15:19.460 Okay.

00:15:20.040 So I, you know, you, you covered pretty broadly, you know, the origins of Christian identity.

00:15:25.680 So to kind of recap, what we've got here are, um, you know, fundamentally scripture and archeological evidence, uh, combined with the historical record, which was, and this idea, Christian identitarians believe supports the notion of, um, the Germanic, nor the peoples of Europe as being the true blood Israel, that the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

00:15:51.120 Right.

00:15:51.720 Right.

00:15:52.540 And this idea gained proliferation, um, in the United States, you know, during the, uh, 19th, 20th centuries, would that be fair to say?

00:16:01.040 Yeah.

00:16:02.040 Yeah.

00:16:02.600 Yeah.

00:16:03.140 I think so.

00:16:03.660 There was, there was also, um, you know, there was, there was these Puritan groups in the 16th or the 17th century that were just following the old Testament.

00:16:10.520 And, and they wanted to show the Jews that, um, you know, Britain was, was, was the, uh, were, was the perfect, um, uh, fulfillment of the old Testament and that they were obeying all these laws in the old Testament.

00:16:22.900 And, and they brought the, the Jews back into England thinking that they were all going to become Christians. 0.99

00:16:27.640 And, and, and, and, uh, the Jews took everything over, took the bank over and all, all the rest of it. 0.93

00:16:32.940 And, uh, and they made a right mess and they, but they had no, um, you know, no basis for it.

00:16:39.580 Yeah.

00:16:39.760 They had no basis for it.

00:16:41.100 And I don't really think that, um, you know, that forms part of a history of Christian identity, but sometimes it's an allegation that gets put at Christian identity.

00:16:50.100 I'd never, I'd never heard that one.

00:16:52.400 So.

00:16:53.360 Doc, do you have any comments you'd like to make?

00:16:55.280 Uh, well, um, that's a pretty broad sweeping, um, overview.

00:17:03.640 Certainly.

00:17:04.200 Just thoughts that come to your mind.

00:17:05.780 So the first thing that comes to mind is that, um, uh, uh, there, there is, there, there is language that in, in, in both the old and new testaments that, um, that would tend to support a reading, uh, an anthropological.

00:17:25.280 Reading that, um, I, I, I think perhaps it, it might be daring to say all Europeans at all times, all places are, you know, identical with, uh, the lost tribes, but at the very least, I think it is, it is safe to say that you could read this evidence to suggest that there was a, uh, a stream.

00:17:49.600 Um, right, yeah, that's, yeah, that, that, that, that, that, that, that parts of Israel, parts of the lost tribes did mix with early Europeans.

00:18:00.080 I, I, I think that's.

00:18:01.220 Right.

00:18:01.800 Yeah.

00:18:02.240 Okay.

00:18:02.920 So what I think that we should do, and I'll give it back to you in a second here, Sven, is we should kind of go blow by blow through some of the listeners, because not everybody's going to be super familiar with biblical history.

00:18:11.440 So I think that we should sort of lay out for them the anthropological narrative that some of the tribes, some of the peoples of Israel, of, uh, Europe are descended from the 10 tribes of Northern Israel.

00:18:23.700 Okay.

00:18:25.800 Now, um, so some people here will know this, but, and I, and go ahead, Sven, I'm just going to lay down a few points and please take it over, is that, you know, in the 8th century BC, the Assyrians, uh, after, after the death of King Solomon, the Assyrians invaded, uh, uh, Israel.

00:18:43.980 And they took over the Northern part and the 10 tribes, uh, all except for Judah and Benjamin, who resided in the Southern part of the country, um, were deported.

00:18:54.880 Right.

00:18:55.380 Is that correct?

00:18:56.680 Yeah.

00:18:56.880 Yeah, that was correct.

00:18:57.680 But what I, what I really should have stated earlier is that there were dispersions before then.

00:19:02.080 There were a lot of dispersions before then.

00:19:03.940 There was, um, there was a dispersion at the time of Moses when Moses was in Egypt.

00:19:08.780 You had, uh, you know, you had, uh, the firstborn son of Judah, which was Zara, who was the one with, um, uh, all the, all the, um, heritage that goes with that being the firstborn son who his, um, his, um, his whole line disappears while they're in Egypt.

00:19:23.340 So he disappeared, came into, came into Europe. 0.98

00:19:26.200 You can actually trace the kings from Troy and King Latinus and, and all these various old king, kingly lines go back to Zara, who actually left that area at the time of Moses.

00:19:38.000 Then you've got other groups, other tribes that left.

00:19:40.720 You've got, um, the tribe of Dan, I believe they left, a large portion of them left, um, where, at the time when there were the fiery serpents.

00:19:49.700 So this was before they'd even set up, um, you know, the, the United Kingdom of, uh, Israel and Judah.

00:19:56.280 Uh, and then once they actually had, had that, that area, they had what, you have what's called the Phoenician Empire that started, and that was centred around the land of Asher.

00:20:05.900 So, you know, you had these Israelite tribes that had that area, which was also the perfect area for, um, pushing boats off from the beach. 0.66

00:20:14.240 I mean, they weren't just, uh, sunbathing.

00:20:16.320 I mean, at the time of Solomon, you had the Phoenician Empire beginning, and you had these, these colonizers that were moving out right the way across the world.

00:20:24.360 I mean, it says Solomon, everyone knew who Solomon was.

00:20:26.920 All these other countries were paying taxes to him.

00:20:28.780 He was, uh, in an alliance with Egypt.

00:20:32.100 He actually conquered Assyria, which is possibly why Assyria then came back and, and dispersed Israel a few hundred years later. 0.50

00:20:40.500 So you had lots of different, um, dispersions into Europe before then, but the, the main dispersion was that time there with, um, with, when the Assyrians, uh, removed them to, to that area around Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan sort of area.

00:20:56.320 And one of the biggest proofs I find for that is all the stone circles and the standing stones that we have all across Europe, particularly in Britain.

00:21:04.800 So there are over a dozen verses in the Old Testament telling, you know, commanding the, the Israelites that they must erect these stones wherever, wherever they go.

00:21:12.580 And it talks, talks of them, talks of putting up stones, uh, putting plaster on them and putting the words of the law on them, putting up stone circles.

00:21:20.080 And it also talks about, um, Abraham being buried in a cave in a field, which is a long barrow.

00:21:25.220 So it's the only written evidence that we have of these megalithic structures being built is actually in the Old Testament.

00:21:32.000 And, and you see these structures being built all the way across Europe.

00:21:36.240 You also see them in India.

00:21:37.640 You see them as far away as Korea.

00:21:39.400 So that's, you know, that's the extent of, of these, um, dispersions and this colonizing activity that went on.

00:21:46.740 But the, the, the main bit that people concentrate on though, is the dispersion that was brought about by, by the Assyrians when, when they removed them to, um, that area where they were able to go through the Caucasus.

00:21:59.180 So the assertion is, is after they were deported to the southern area of the Caspian Sea, right?

00:22:05.100 That from there, they went across the, uh, European steppe and dispersed through Europe.

00:22:11.800 Yeah, yeah.

00:22:12.480 Through the Caucasian mountains, through the Israel Pass and the Caucasian mountains. 0.84

00:22:16.000 And then you've got, you know, the, the Diniepa, the Danube, all these rivers named after the tribe of Dan.

00:22:22.060 And, uh, there was another, another portion of them went around via the sea route.

00:22:27.240 Because you have these two groups, you have the Cimmerians and the Scythians, almost like the Scythians were pushing the, the Cimmerians on in, in front of them. 1.00

00:22:34.840 And as, as these tribes made their way into Europe, their, their names changed in the, in the records.

00:22:39.900 The Scythians became the Saxons and the, and the Cimmerians became the Cymru. 0.99

00:22:44.560 You also got the, uh, Massagedi and the, the Galatahi and, and all these various other tribes that, that ended up coming from them.

00:22:51.520 And then, then they, you can split them up even further and you get like the Jutes, the Angles, the Saxons, the Danes. 0.65

00:22:59.880 And you can trace them all back, basically, these routes that they, that they traveled.

00:23:04.860 And if you look at the, um, I think the, the Danish myths talk about, or the Nordic myths talk about, uh, this land Asia.

00:23:10.860 And the earliest British Chronicle talks about British people coming from this place called, uh, the Summerland is, is what they called it.

00:23:18.440 So I think you had like a cradle of civilization, the, the Fertile Crescent and all around that area.

00:23:23.820 And then, uh, people spread out from there.

00:23:26.840 And I think, um, the, the people that spread to the coldest parts, like us, we were the ones that were furthest away from the miscegenation.

00:23:34.300 Which, which is why we're still here.

00:23:36.440 And it says in the Old Testament that, uh, God will put Israel in a new place where, um, they cannot be attacked by the enemy.

00:23:45.420 They're going to be removed to a new land.

00:23:47.260 And this is actually when they're in, in Palestine and they've got, um, you know, the land of Canaan.

00:23:52.100 And this prophecy says they'll be taken to a new land where they'll be safe.

00:23:55.560 And I think that's what happened.

00:23:56.960 The majority of them moved into Europe and, you know, we were away from, uh, all these other races. 1.00

00:24:02.940 And, and nourished by the New Testament and with the New Covenant and, uh, all the rest of it.

00:24:08.800 And, and we had a thousand years of Christianity or a thousand years of the Byzantine Empire.

00:24:13.500 And then, uh, now we get all these problems with the Jews again, which is, um, all foretold. 1.00

00:24:18.620 But yeah, you probably want to comment on that.

00:24:20.220 Interesting. Excellent.

00:24:21.340 No, and I think that that's a, that's probably a pretty good covering of the anthropology.

00:24:25.820 Um, post-deluge.

00:24:28.080 So, Doc, do you want to make any comments?

00:24:30.620 You, what do you, um, I know that you, you personally have some sympathy for this, uh.

00:24:35.560 Yeah, I, I, I have lots of sympathy for, um, uh, the, the anthropology and the history here.

00:24:41.300 I think there's lots of, there's lots of evidences for it.

00:24:44.560 Um, particularly if you look at Paleo-Hebrew inscriptions, they look nothing at all like, uh, what is claimed to be modern Hebrew.

00:24:53.280 Um, in fact, they look basically like, uh, Phoenician or, or Paleo-Greek.

00:25:00.280 Um, it's, it's a, it's a completely different way of writing.

00:25:05.380 Um, so, uh, that particular story, um, uh, doesn't, there's nothing that, that, that is objectionable in that in and of itself.

00:25:20.340 It's when we start going into theology that we have to be very careful, I think.

00:25:25.640 Right.

00:25:26.180 Uh, I think it's, it's, uh, a good point to make.

00:25:28.520 You know, I don't, um, for me, I, I want to just make it clear that I don't have a personal opinion on the, the anthropology.

00:25:35.240 I mean, I think this is actually, it's very fascinating, and I'm very glad to learn more about it.

00:25:39.520 Um, but I, you know, don't have, um, an opinion one way or another affirming it or denying it.

00:25:44.980 But let's move from the Volkswanderung, and we can come back to that, to something else that you mentioned.

00:25:52.600 So you talked about, um, the, in the antediluvian period, um, an idea of what's known as the, the serpent seed line hypothesis.

00:26:00.960 Do you want to go more into this idea that the, that Cain was not descended from Adam?

00:26:08.780 Well, yeah, I, I, you've got, um, you know, the story of Adam and Eve with the serpent in the garden.

00:26:15.720 And that's, you know, that's like a parable.

00:26:18.600 And it's telling you that, uh, this serpent, I believe, was, was a derogatory term for the serpent that was more subtle than, uh, the other beasts of the field.

00:26:29.260 And, uh, then the next thing you know, Eve is pregnant, and she's got two, she's got Cain, and she's got Abel.

00:26:37.540 And then when it's telling you the line of, um, Adam in the genealogy, it just goes, Adam, Abel, Seth.

00:26:44.080 It doesn't actually tell you about Cain at all.

00:26:46.740 And Cain's, um, sacrifice was, was refused.

00:26:50.380 And the actual curse that's put on, um, Adam and Eve, the curse is that, um, the seed of, uh, the woman will have to crush the serpent's head.

00:27:00.060 And the, and the seed of the serpent will bite at the ankles of, of the seed of the woman. 0.99

00:27:05.560 So you have this, um, you know, this prophecy and this curse right there, um, at the beginning.

00:27:10.800 And then when, when, at the time of Jesus, um, you know, he says he's going to reveal things that haven't been heard since the creation of the world.

00:27:19.100 He says to the Jews, your father is a devil. 0.83

00:27:21.520 He was a murderer from the beginning. 1.00

00:27:23.040 He's a master of lies. 1.00

00:27:24.740 And that's, you know, that's Cain. 0.99

00:27:26.520 Cain was the murderer from the beginning. 0.96

00:27:28.080 He was the master of lies.

00:27:30.100 Um, if you look, if you look outside of the Bible, if you look in the book of Enoch, it tells you that, you know, Abel, Abel's soul is, is screaming that Cain's bloodline or Cain's seed must be obliterated from the face of the earth.

00:27:42.460 So it's, it's obviously still there.

00:27:44.440 If you look at, um, what the church fathers said way back at the time of, uh, of Christ, you know, they, they're talking about the, the, uh, the, the, the offspring of Cain, basically.

00:27:55.000 And you've got, uh, the books of Adam and Eve that were written from the folklore at the time, third and fourth century.

00:28:01.160 And, and they explain what happened.

00:28:03.320 And they say the most important thing that was passed on to the sons of Adam was that they must not breed with the, with the children of Cain. 0.78

00:28:09.700 And there were various other verses.

00:28:12.080 I haven't, I should have refreshed my memory on this part of it before, um, before we started recording.

00:28:16.920 But there are about five or six different witnesses, um, in, in the Bible to show that, uh, Adam was not the actual father of Cain.

00:28:24.480 I think two of them are to do with genealogies that just cut him out completely from the genealogy.

00:28:30.660 And then there's, uh, the bits of the saying, uh, Cain father, um, Cain was from the, the wicked one, sort of showing that, uh, he, he was the father.

00:28:38.360 And then what you end up with is after the, after the flood, you get, I think it's, uh, Genesis 10.

00:28:44.860 It tells you all the nations that are descended from Noah. 0.98

00:28:47.620 And then after that, there are some nations that are actually in the land that are not descended from Noah.

00:28:52.940 The name of one of these nations is Kenites.

00:28:55.860 And if you look that up in the, um, uh, the concordance, and that tells you that that means of Cain or from Cain.

00:29:03.500 So that's people that were descended from Cain and they were in the land of Canaan.

00:29:07.760 And the Old Testament tells you that the Canaanites that were in the land of Canaan, they bred with the people that were in the land.

00:29:14.280 That was one of the crimes that was, or sins that was, uh, imputed to them was that they interbred with the people in the land. 0.98

00:29:21.160 The people that were in the land were these Kenites. 1.00

00:29:22.960 So you get this, this line going from, uh, all the way from Cain to the Kenites, to the Canaanites.

00:29:31.580 And then later on, the, the, one of these Canaanite women marrying Esau, which then becomes the Jews, basically. 0.66

00:29:39.060 So you've got this line going all the way back to this, um, this curse that, uh, the seed of the woman will, will crush the head of the seed of the serpent.

00:29:47.860 And the seed of the serpent will bite at the heels of the seed of the woman. 1.00

00:29:52.660 So, so that's what that, that's what that is.

00:29:54.180 And that's where it comes from.

00:29:55.020 Hmm. That's fascinating.

00:29:57.000 So I suppose, um, there's either two ways that we can go into this one.

00:30:02.080 We could just begin a discussion of the particular, um, claims here, or two, I could ask you to, in your own words, kind of address, um, a couple of things.

00:30:12.600 So for me, the anthropology that you've presented, the descendants of, uh, the Volkswanderung of the Lost Tribes of Israel into Europe and on other places.

00:30:21.780 Uh, as I've said before, uh, I have nothing against, or I have nothing for it.

00:30:27.560 Um, I think it's fascinating, certainly something I'm interested in learning more about, but I don't have, um, any particular opinion on that claim.

00:30:35.000 Um, but, so theologically, the claim, uh, that most Christian identitarians are making is that Jesus Christ and the salvific nature of his sacrifice on the cross and the new covenant in his blood is not a universal, um, call to all the nations, but rather only to those who are descended from Abraham?

00:30:56.820 Well, to, yeah, to, to, to the nations that came from Abraham.

00:31:00.960 I mean, there was a promise that, um, you know, that all, all of, uh, the descendants of Adam would have the eternal life.

00:31:08.320 The sword, flashing sword was, was kept to keep the way to the, to the tree of life.

00:31:13.520 Uh, so there was this promise made to Adam, but the, the rest of the nations that were descended from Noah, they, they all ended up, um, getting blended out.

00:31:22.940 So you pretty much only got the, the, uh, the nations descended from Israel that are left now.

00:31:28.420 And before then you had, uh, the other nation, the other Adamite nations, the other Aryan nations, but now pretty much all that's left that's white is, is, uh, Israel anyway. 0.81

00:31:40.060 And that's, again, that's the prophecy that it says in, in the, uh, Old Testament and all the, all the promises, all the covenants are only made with one people.

00:31:48.080 It says, you alone have I loved out of all the families of the earth.

00:31:52.140 Uh, there's only one people that the law was given to and without the law, there is no sin.

00:31:56.460 So it was only one people that it was necessary for, uh, Christ to come for and, and, and redeemed.

00:32:02.800 And this, you know, this word, um, salvation, I mean, it means preservation is what it is closer to what it really means.

00:32:09.680 You know, Israel will be preserved until the end and, uh, it'll be a big battle at the end. 0.86

00:32:15.220 All, all the, you know, the, there's a verse in, um, revelations that talks about the seed, the woman and the seed of the woman.

00:32:23.700 And she's being nourished away from the face of the serpent and the serpent opens his mouth and the big flood comes to wash away the woman. 0.78

00:32:29.520 And the angel explains that this flood that comes out of the mouth of the serpent is all people's nations and tongues.

00:32:35.580 And this, this I believe is, is the moment that we're at now.

00:32:38.380 You know, the woman with, with child is, is the European nations. 0.69

00:32:41.700 The European nations are always described as women, the same as, uh, Israel was the bride of God.

00:32:47.860 And, uh, we're being flooded by these, by these other nations. 0.96

00:32:51.660 And what's more, they're even coming from the same area.

00:32:53.460 It talks about Gog and Magog, which is Syria and Turkey, that area there.

00:32:59.080 So we've been flooded with these other nations.

00:33:01.600 And that's the point that we're at, I believe in, um, in, in revelations.

00:33:05.700 So they're really, you know, why would Jesus have to die on the cross to, for the sins of, of people that were never given the law anyway?

00:33:14.880 You know, there was no gospel to the Chinese.

00:33:17.280 There was no epistles to the Congoids. 0.99

00:33:20.220 You know, it was all for one people, for the descendants of, um, Israel. 0.97

00:33:24.920 I mean, you can show that the, the Romans, it was a large part descended from them.

00:33:30.120 The Greeks were in large part descended from them.

00:33:32.680 Um, and if they weren't descended from them, they were descended from Japheth. 0.98

00:33:35.860 And, and Japheth, um, is in the tents of Shem. 0.91

00:33:39.200 You know, he's, he's become absorbed pretty much by, uh, Israel.

00:33:43.240 Any Japhethites that were in, uh, Europe would have become, tended to become absorbed by, um, by Israel once, once they came in, once they came into, uh, into the, onto the continent. 1.00

00:33:54.560 So, you know, that, that's what that comes down to.

00:33:57.340 And if the other races follow Christianity, obviously that's going to be a benefit to them. 0.99

00:34:03.080 The same as, you know, looking and, and using your ears before you cross the road is so that you don't get run over.

00:34:08.880 But there's, there's no, you know, there's no, there's nothing to actually show in the Bible that there's any eternal life for them or anything like that.

00:34:18.680 It's all about Adam and, and the descendants of Adam that have this spirit, uh, breathed into him by the Lord God, which made him a living soul.

00:34:27.540 And it's, it's all about the history of these people.

00:34:30.880 So the others aren't described, there's no description of the Chinese being created, the Negroes being created, anything like that.

00:34:37.600 It's, you know, that's not our responsibility.

00:34:39.980 And I think it's wrong of us to try and explain it to them and, and, and try and share it with them.

00:34:46.200 You know, we're told not to cast the pearls before swine and dogs, lest they turn and, and, and rend us, which is exactly what happens.

00:34:53.040 You know, if you look at, um, churches in Haiti or churches in, in Africa, you know, they pretty quickly descend into voodoo once the white man isn't there.

00:35:04.180 You know, they don't grasp the, these concepts.

00:35:06.640 It's, it's not, it's not meant for them.

00:35:08.620 I think it was only ever meant for, uh, for white people.

00:35:11.880 And I don't, as I say, I don't think there was anything in the Bible which, um, you know, which suggests that it was supposed to be for anyone else other than the people that, that, you know, that the Bible talks about.

00:35:22.900 The descendants of Adam, descendants of Noah, descendants of Shea. 0.96

00:35:25.580 Yeah, we'll get, we'll get into that in a, in a little bit here.

00:35:27.660 So I think that the way we ought to structure this is, um, what I, what I'll do is I will make kind of an opening, um, position of,

00:35:38.620 my theology and the theology of the Orthodox Church.

00:35:41.600 I'll let Doc Savage make a comment and then I'll try to respond to some of the specific claims that you've made, um, with my own assertions or my own critiques.

00:35:49.440 And then we can have a discussion.

00:35:51.100 Does that sound fine with you?

00:35:54.160 Yeah, yeah, that's fine.

00:35:55.200 I mean, I've got, um, when I was looking up these, these verses earlier when you were saying about where does it, um, come from, I mean, just from some of these passages that I've got in, uh, in Romans here, I mean, it makes it clear that it's only for one, for one people that these promises were for.

00:36:09.660 Right. So what, from my perspective, the theological assertions specifically, disregarding the anthropology, that salvation is limited to one particular blood group of the elect is, um, erroneous and incorrect.

00:36:27.680 The teaching of the Orthodox Church, um, since, since the beginning is that Jesus Christ in his incarnation was united to humanity as a, as a whole.

00:36:40.360 Okay. And so the Orthodox Church rejects the serpent seed line hypothesis.

00:36:46.560 So it does not believe that there was a separate, um, uh, genesis for different races of mankind.

00:36:52.900 And even if we were to accept that in the case of the antediluvian times, it would postulate that, you know, those people did not survive into the future.

00:37:01.920 So part, I, that's, that's aside, we're going to get into the nitty gritty, but just, you know, straight away, that's something that I think myself and the theology of the Orthodox Church has a serious disagreement with,

00:37:11.900 is that it does not believe that, um, salvation is intended for one particular group of people descended by blood from the ancient, uh, Israel, but rather for the nations as a totality.

00:37:24.300 Um, and so we'll get into that in a bit. Doc, would you like me to make a comment?

00:37:28.480 Yeah. Um, so, um, please bear with me. I'm going to have, I'm going to try to be very careful, uh, with, with, uh, how I phrase things.

00:37:38.100 Um, so if, if we believe in a literal creation, a literal garden, a literal reading of the Genesis story, which I certainly do, and I believe, um, anyone who claims to, um, be bound by the seven ecumenical councils, uh, is bound to do, um,

00:38:00.980 then I think we have to say that the sacrifice on the cross was to heal the original sin, right?

00:38:10.020 Um, and, and what this implies to me, and I think, um, I think, Florian, you'll agree, is that in principle, salvation is available to all nations.

00:38:24.920 Now, whether or not any particular nation attained salvation, I mean, that's, that's a, um, that's a question of particular circumstances, uh, of whether or not hearts are converted.

00:38:41.740 Uh, certainly. Well, the example we used earlier when talking about this is that, you know, the position of the Orthodox Church would be, yes, theoretically, salvation is even open to, um, you know, the Jews who rejected Christ if they were to repent.

00:38:53.400 But, um, but, I mean, we can see in practice, you know, how many Jews out of 100,000 will actually convert to Orthodox Christianity, right?

00:39:01.500 Less than, you know, uh, I think you'd be hard-pressed to find one.

00:39:07.200 The, uh, uh, yeah, the, uh, the, there's already a word for, uh, Jew of goodwill. It's called the Church of Jerusalem.

00:39:17.180 But, uh.

00:39:17.460 Yes, indeed. Right. As you say.

00:39:20.340 Yeah. Yeah. So, no, I mean, it's good to, to make that, um, it's good to, to say that. Anything else you want to add?

00:39:27.840 I've got a couple of points. I wouldn't mind, um, adding there to that.

00:39:31.240 I mean, you said, um, you know, it was for everyone and you talked about humanity.

00:39:37.220 I mean, the word in the Bible is the Adam.

00:39:39.940 And the Adam, if you look it up in the Concordance, it's the same word means to be able to blush, to, to show blood in the face.

00:39:48.360 So, Adam was able to blush. He could show blood in the face.

00:39:52.140 And these other races can't do that. 0.98

00:39:54.620 And, and if you're going to use, uh, the word human, then that means humane.

00:39:58.520 It means a humane being.

00:40:00.160 It means somebody that shows charity, love, mercy, law, justice. 0.97

00:40:04.980 And those things don't exist among Negroes. 0.99

00:40:08.440 They're not humane beings. 0.99

00:40:10.320 You know, they might be humanoid. 0.63

00:40:12.640 They might look like us of a sort.

00:40:15.580 But they don't actually fulfill the criteria for being humane beings.

00:40:20.400 There's something different.

00:40:21.280 As I say, they're not, um, you know, they're not included in the, in the creation account.

00:40:25.360 It doesn't tell you where God created them.

00:40:27.600 So if you believe in the creation account, you believe everything there was created by God, then, then, you know, where are these Negroes? 1.00

00:40:34.500 And if you look at...

00:40:35.640 Well, the tradition, the Orthodox Church would say that these are the descendants of Ham, who was cursed.

00:40:39.400 Well, where do they get the idea that, uh, you know, Noah's curse of Canaan turned Ham's descendants black?

00:40:47.220 You know, that's something that comes from the Talmud, is, is, is that, that was, that was suggested by the Jews.

00:40:51.740 There's, there's no, um, you know, there's no justification for that in the Old Testament or in, um, Noah's curse, which, which was on Canaan.

00:40:59.740 It wasn't actually on, on Ham.

00:41:01.860 But if you look at, um, what Jesus said, I've just got a short quote here from Matthew.

00:41:06.240 It says, and before him shall be gathered all nations, and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats. 0.87

00:41:14.900 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, and the goats on the left.

00:41:18.300 So you've got, you know, you've got sheep and goats, and their nations are not individuals. 0.93

00:41:23.420 That's whole nations.

00:41:24.940 You've got some which are, uh, uh, destined for different things than, uh, than what the others are destined for.

00:41:31.700 And you've also got the parable of the wheat and the tares.

00:41:34.160 The devil goes and sows the tares. 0.91

00:41:35.820 It tells you it's the devil that's sowing them there.

00:41:38.240 Tares can't repent and become wheat.

00:41:41.040 You know, they're, they're vessels fitted for destruction.

00:41:43.280 They were created that way by the creator.

00:41:45.980 You know, vessels fitted for glory.

00:41:47.380 Right, and so I think that the most productive way for me is might to be good to go through a few of the claims and offer counter arguments,

00:41:52.720 and then to look at a few of the passages, passages in scripture, which I believe, um, refute this claim.

00:41:57.880 Right, so, um, the first place to start would be the, the prophecy of, um, you know, in Genesis when we find the, um, the prophecy that the, um, I will sow enmity between, uh, your seed and the seed of the woman. 0.92

00:42:11.880 Right, right?

00:42:13.340 Yes.

00:42:13.680 So the teaching of the Orthodox Church on the subject is that the woman of, um, Genesis is revealed in, uh, the writings of John the Evangelist.

00:42:23.600 So John in his gospel, when he's referring to the mother of our Lord, only describes her as the woman.

00:42:30.840 And furthermore, this is the way that she is described in the book of Revelation, as the woman.

00:42:35.480 And so the teaching of the Orthodox Church is that this is describing the Blessed Virgin Mary, who is a sign or is a, um, a type of the church.

00:42:45.440 That the Blessed Virgin Mary in herself received the fullness of the Holy Spirit.

00:42:50.440 This is what, I mean, the term full of grace means up to the brim, nothing more can be filled in the Greek.

00:42:57.160 And so the Virgin Mary acts as the tabernacle of the new covenant.

00:43:02.540 Christ in his body and blood was incarnated in her by the power of the Holy Spirit, not by the will of man, the seed of man, right, or by the flesh of mankind, which is to say, you know, um, you know, the actual genetic material of man aside from, you know, her own chromosomes.

00:43:20.440 So that would be the first kind of refutation.

00:43:24.000 The second thing is, um, um, historically speaking, the idea that the apostles did not only exclusively minister to the peoples of Europe is in fact untrue.

00:43:33.520 Um, we've got direct historical evidence telling us that the apostle Thomas went as far as, uh, northern India in terms of his, uh, evangelizing.

00:43:45.640 And so you might make the argument that, okay, at this time in history, the northern Indians were essentially Aryan people, but this is, but this is strange because immediately after this, the apostolic communities that he founded in northern India went and evangelized the southern part of the country was at, which is black.

00:44:01.320 It's Dravidian.

00:44:02.700 And so there are, you know, um, uh, direct evidence in the, the, the southern part of, uh, India of parishes that are 1800, 1900 years old.

00:44:12.840 Well, right.

00:44:13.620 Of Christian communities that were founded by Thomas and his descendants.

00:44:17.180 And these are Dravid's.

00:44:18.180 I mean, I've met, you know, uh, Siromalabar Dravidian, uh, priests.

00:44:23.580 Yeah, they're Dravidian now, 1900 years later.

00:44:27.900 Well, no, but the Dravid's lived in, the Dravid's lived in southern India, um, before they were, uh, mixed with the, uh, 0.98

00:44:36.260 We've always had white people in India, you know, especially back then, 1900, um, 1900 years ago.

00:44:42.340 And what you were talking about there with the seed, I, the, the seed line.

00:44:45.680 So if, if it's only talking about Mary and, uh, the, her seed of Jesus, an individual seed, then who was the serpent seed?

00:44:54.900 Who was that talking about?

00:44:56.100 And what were the people that wrote that thinking for 5,000 years before Jesus came?

00:45:01.360 You know, what was the point of that, that being there about this, uh, seed of the, the serpent biting at the heels of the, of the seed of the woman?

00:45:09.880 You know, the seed of the woman, I believe.

00:45:11.420 And church fathers would interpret this to be allegorical.

00:45:13.860 So they're talking about the spiritual seed of the devil.

00:45:17.460 I mean, this is what our, our Lord says, that you are the children of the devil, the sons of the devil, because you do his work.

00:45:22.920 And I mean, our Lord himself also talks about this in John 8, uh, in John 8 31.

00:45:29.600 I don't think it says because they do his work.

00:45:32.380 I don't think it says that, uh, that.

00:45:34.580 Well, I'll read to you, I'll read to you John 8 31, and we can go back to that in a moment.

00:45:38.480 So, Jesus then said to the Jews who had believed in him, if you continue in my word, you are truly my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.

00:45:49.560 They answered him, we are the descendants of Abraham and have never been in bondage to anyone.

00:45:54.520 How is it that you say, uh, you will be made free?

00:45:57.740 Because, of course, these are the, uh, these are the Judeans that he's speaking to, uh, the southern tribe of Judah, who, uh, were not dispersed by the Assyrians.

00:46:05.500 Jesus answered them, truly, truly, I say to you, every one of you who commits sin is a slave to sin.

00:46:12.400 The sin does not continue, uh, the slave does not continue in the house forever.

00:46:16.640 The son continues forever.

00:46:18.260 So if the son makes you free, you will be free indeed.

00:46:20.980 I know that you are descendants of Abraham, yet you seek to kill me, because my word finds no place in you.

00:46:28.480 I have spoken what I have heard and have seen from my father, and you do what you have heard from your father.

00:46:32.980 So hold on, so now, they answer him, Abraham is our father.

00:46:37.880 Jesus said to him, if you were Abraham's children, you will do, you would do what Abraham did, but now you seek to kill me.

00:46:44.320 A man has told you the truth which I heard from God.

00:46:47.800 This is not what Abraham did.

00:46:49.580 You do what your father did.

00:46:51.220 They said to him, we were not born of fornication.

00:46:54.980 We have but one father, even God.

00:46:57.560 And Jesus said to them, if God were your father, you would love me, for I proceeded and came forth from God.

00:47:02.980 I have not come of my own accord, but he has sent me.

00:47:06.200 Why do you not understand what I say?

00:47:08.380 It is because you cannot bear to hear my word.

00:47:10.560 You were of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desire, etc.

00:47:14.800 So the teaching of the church here is very, very explicit.

00:47:19.120 Their will is to do the devil's desire.

00:47:21.740 He's not telling them that because they've done it.

00:47:23.580 He's saying that their will is to do as their father did, to do as the devil did.

00:47:30.620 And he's quite clear there as well.

00:47:31.700 He's saying, you know, you're Abraham's descendants, but they're not the children of the promise. 0.97

00:47:35.240 And he tells them that later on.

00:47:36.800 He says, you know, you could raise up stones right now that were going to be Abraham's children, but they're not the children of the promise. 0.62

00:47:42.780 It's only the children that were descended from that promise that was made with Abraham that counts. 0.94

00:47:48.480 Sure, they were partially descendants.

00:47:50.040 What you're referring to is the calling of John the Baptist in the wilderness when the chief priests and the scribes and the Pharisees visit him to inquire.

00:47:57.820 And they're asking him if he is the Messiah.

00:48:00.500 And John says to them, you know, why have you decided to flee before the appointed time?

00:48:05.220 He's, you know, you say that you are sons of Abraham.

00:48:07.640 I tell you that God can raise up from stones, right, from people who are outside of the bloodline of Abraham, those who are the sons of Abraham, bear fruits fitting of repentance.

00:48:18.020 So he's telling them to amend their way specifically.

00:48:21.160 That blood is not enough, that what one has to do is demonstrate works of contrition.

00:48:25.420 I think he's saying the opposite there, because he's saying he could raise up stone, you know, he could raise up children from stones, but they still wouldn't be the children of the promise.

00:48:32.960 They still wouldn't be the children of the faith that Abraham had. 0.60

00:48:35.960 Abraham's faith was that the promise would be kept, that many nations would come from his loins.

00:48:42.360 That was Abraham's faith, and they were the children of the promise.

00:48:46.120 And it tells you later on in the New Testament, it talks about descendants and children.

00:48:51.240 And yes, those Jews were descendants, but they did have two fathers. 1.00

00:48:54.340 They were bastards. 1.00

00:48:55.660 They were descended from Edomians, as well as from Judah. 0.99

00:49:00.560 And there's a bit, just trying to think, there's another bit there about that bit where he says about the father being the devil that can be traced back to Malachi,

00:49:12.060 where it talks about being the children of a strange god, marrying the daughter of a strange god,

00:49:18.760 which was, you know, marrying the Canaanites, basically.

00:49:21.720 I'd have to look that one up.

00:49:26.380 I should have refreshed my memory on that before we started.

00:49:30.840 I think you'll find that when he's saying that about those stones, he can raise up, you know, the children from the stones.

00:49:37.420 You know, that's because God can do anything, but they still wouldn't be the production of that promise that was made to Abraham.

00:49:43.100 Only Abraham's descendants had this promise made to them. 0.95

00:49:47.140 And those Jews couldn't hear him. 1.00

00:49:48.360 And he's daring them.

00:49:49.380 He's saying, yeah, do my work if you can.

00:49:52.580 You know, do the good works.

00:49:54.380 But they can't because they don't have it in them.

00:49:57.220 They listen to their father, the devil.

00:49:59.360 They can't, you know, they can't hear what Jesus is saying.

00:50:03.020 He said he only came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

00:50:05.460 And he tells them, I have a different father to you. 1.00

00:50:09.500 Your father is the devil, the master of lies. 0.99

00:50:12.320 And again, later on, he says he was a murderer from the beginning. 0.98

00:50:15.960 I think you, you know, you quoted the first bit and not the second bit after.

00:50:21.780 That's what he's saying to them.

00:50:23.100 He's from a complete, you know, it doesn't apply to them.

00:50:26.920 They can try if they want.

00:50:28.980 You know, there's quite a few places in the New Testament where he does that, I think.

00:50:32.360 He says, well, go on then.

00:50:34.580 Do that.

00:50:35.560 Do his own thing.

00:50:35.900 Well, but I, right.

00:50:36.740 And so what I would, I would call upon Romans 9 to actually back up what I'm saying, that

00:50:42.560 the, he's talking about more than just the descendants of Abraham.

00:50:46.400 Okay, so Paul in Romans 9, he says, I'm speaking the truth in Christ.

00:50:51.420 I am not lying.

00:50:52.040 My conscience bears me witness in the Holy Spirit that I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish

00:50:56.140 in my heart, for I wish that I myself were accursed and cut off from Christ for the

00:51:01.120 sake of my brethren.

00:51:02.360 My kinsmen, my race.

00:51:04.120 They are Israelites, and to them belong the sonship, the glory, and the covenant, the

00:51:08.140 giving of the law, the worship, and the promises.

00:51:10.540 To them belong the patriarchs.

00:51:12.360 And of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ, God who is over all, be blessed

00:51:16.720 forever.

00:51:17.280 Amen.

00:51:17.500 But it is not, but it is not as though the word of God had failed.

00:51:22.540 For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and not all are children of Abraham 0.92

00:51:29.080 because they are his descendants.

00:51:31.740 But through Isaac shall your descendants be named.

00:51:34.340 This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God.

00:51:41.560 The children of the promise are reckoned as descendants.

00:51:44.440 For this is what the promise says.

00:51:46.140 About this time I will return, Sarah shall have a son, and not so, etc., etc.

00:51:50.700 Yeah, that's exactly what I'm, that's exactly what I was saying.

00:51:54.520 Exactly what I was saying.

00:51:56.800 Neither because they are the seed of Abraham are they all children, but in Isaac shall thy

00:52:02.040 seed be called.

00:52:02.980 That is, they which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God, 0.97

00:52:07.700 but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

00:52:11.580 Only the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

00:52:14.300 For this is the word of the promise.

00:52:16.480 At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son.

00:52:19.900 And not only this, but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father, Isaac.

00:52:25.900 For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose

00:52:31.080 of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth.

00:52:37.200 It was said unto her, the elder shall serve the younger, as it is written, Jacob have I

00:52:41.760 loved, but Esau have I hated.

00:52:44.600 So that explains all of it.

00:52:47.360 Abraham does have lots of other children, but they are not the children of the promise.

00:52:51.720 It's only the children of the promise that are counted for the seed.

00:52:55.000 And it's only if you still contain that seed does it apply to you.

00:53:01.740 I mean, I've got these verses here.

00:53:04.560 Romans 4.

00:53:05.300 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

00:53:08.860 And then it tells you in 1 John 3.

00:53:11.520 He that committeth sin is of the devil, for the devil sinneth from the beginning.

00:53:15.620 For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

00:53:20.460 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin, for his seed remaineth in him.

00:53:27.820 And he cannot sin because he is born of God.

00:53:31.120 So that's telling you it's only the seed, only the children of the promise.

00:53:35.420 And that's not saying that we don't sin.

00:53:37.540 That's saying that the seed within us, the soul within us, cannot sin.

00:53:42.660 Because it's eternal.

00:53:44.540 Because we have that eternal life.

00:53:46.840 Sorry, I've just got the same verses that, you know, you wanted to read out.

00:53:53.600 Right, that's well and fair enough.

00:53:54.840 So the counter-postulation on the part of the church fathers would be that these verses are speaking allegorically of the whole of humanity.

00:54:03.860 So it's not the particular promise to the descendants of Jacob, or rather the descendants of Isaac,

00:54:10.300 but it is the promise to the entirety of humanity.

00:54:14.700 So, you know, I understand that you disagree very sharply on there, so I don't want to get cut off in one particular issue, but I want to address broadly.

00:54:21.900 But that isn't what it says, is it?

00:54:23.520 It says it's only the children of the promise.

00:54:26.040 The other children are different.

00:54:27.360 The other children are vessels fitted for destruction.

00:54:30.780 It's only the children of the promise.

00:54:32.100 And that promise was there so that God might show grace.

00:54:36.340 Grace.

00:54:36.840 Because it's not by works.

00:54:39.020 It's only by grace.

00:54:40.540 And it was that promise that was made to Abraham.

00:54:42.380 I mean, James 2 specifically refutes that.

00:54:45.740 It says that, you know, faith without works is dead, as an example.

00:54:50.440 Well, you have to, you know, add your works to it, don't you?

00:54:53.640 I mean, that's just it, isn't it?

00:54:55.360 You have to add your works to it.

00:54:58.220 Right.

00:54:58.640 I mean, I'm just saying that, you know, James specifically says that we are not saved by faith alone, but by faith in my works.

00:55:05.860 But anyway, I don't want to get into that particular.

00:55:08.020 Doc, would you like to make a comment?

00:55:09.300 Well, I think the deep issue here and the way that we can both – we can read these passages and come to different conclusions.

00:55:29.300 I think what we're dealing with is different principles in interpretation.

00:55:38.320 And I think both Florian and I are – have a priori bound ourselves to a certain school, a certain way of reading these things.

00:55:55.860 Right.

00:55:58.860 Right.

00:55:59.400 So you have the word, but the way we interpret the word has to agree with the way the word has been interpreted in the past, past, with tradition.

00:56:09.860 That it's – there's specific passages, especially in the New Testament, where it says, you know, do these things that you have heard from us.

00:56:20.560 Not just what is written, but there's also – not everything is written down.

00:56:25.600 You know, there's also word of mouth involved.

00:56:27.860 And so that's where the sort of – the idea of apostolic tradition, of holy tradition enters into the stream.

00:56:38.980 There's – there's language that seems to speak of other nations, not of Abraham, being grafted into Israel, right?

00:56:59.740 And I think, you know, the image of the church has always been the body of Christ, and that body is envisioned as a vineyard in some passages or in some images, right?

00:57:25.740 So there's this language and there's this metaphor all throughout the New Testament of grafting new branches into this vineyard.

00:57:42.420 And I – it seems to me that there is a biological component here that we're talking about,

00:57:52.180 but that the Lord chooses who is his children and who isn't, right?

00:58:06.700 It's not determined purely by biological processes.

00:58:11.580 And I think – I think the historical question that we should answer, that we should seek to come to an understanding on,

00:58:23.980 is going to be the Church of Ethiopia, right?

00:58:26.780 And the conversion of the Ethiopian Enoch.

00:58:31.400 And at that point, I'll –

00:58:33.420 Well, yeah, we can go to that part as well.

00:58:35.580 So the root that you're referring to is –

00:58:37.760 Can I just address that?

00:58:39.160 Can I just address that?

00:58:40.200 I appreciate the tradition.

00:58:42.640 I have a lot of respect for people in the Church and priests in the Church and people that study all of this.

00:58:49.060 But I think there's been a problem with letting the Jews in there to help with the translations of the Bible and letting the Jews into the Church.

00:58:57.180 I mean, we know that they – we know what they're like.

00:59:01.200 And we know that they funded a lot of the Bible printing in the 16th and the 17th century.

00:59:06.340 They funded the –

00:59:08.140 Right, but my Church doesn't use one that was produced by – the Orthodox Church uses as its prime, ultimate scripture the Septuagint.

00:59:16.640 These Jews have still been – well, the Septuagint, yeah, that's good – but the Jews have still been in the Church causing these problems. 1.00

00:59:24.840 And when you were talking there about the vineyard and the grafting of branches, I mean, again, that's in Romans.

00:59:31.220 That's Paul talking to the Romans who were descended from Israel anyway.

00:59:34.800 And they could only have been descended from Israel if you look at the wording of what he says.

00:59:40.120 And this is Romans 11.

00:59:41.240 It says,

00:59:41.380 So what they're saying is, you know, these were branches that have been broken off from the olive tree.

01:00:08.400 They've been somewhere else, they've been a wild olive tree, and now they've been grafted back in among the rootstock.

01:00:13.860 But they're all the same tree.

01:00:15.560 Otherwise, you wouldn't be able to do that.

01:00:16.640 They're all an olive tree.

01:00:18.220 It's not an almond tree being grafted in there with the olive tree.

01:00:22.120 It's olive branches being grafted into an olive tree.

01:00:26.260 Right, and I think that the fundamental departure in hermeneutic in the manner of interpretation is that when the tradition of the Church reads this allegory, they do not accept the serpent seed line hypothesis.

01:00:38.040 So, you know, when we talk about the grafting into the tree, they're speaking of the nations that broke off from God's righteousness after the flood, the descendants of Noah, that are grafted into the true Israel in spirit in the blood of Jesus Christ.

01:00:57.520 And so I appreciate and understand that you do not agree with this interpretation and that your perspective comes from a hermeneutic, which presupposes that there is a second bloodline descended from the devil and Eve.

01:01:12.700 Okay, but this is one that this particular theological claim is found nowhere in Orthodox tradition.

01:01:19.940 And it's, you know, it's soundly rejected.

01:01:23.420 So what we can do is what I figure is we're getting towards the end of our first hour.

01:01:28.280 So what I think that we should do is probably end it here.

01:01:30.800 And then we'll come back in the second hour and discuss a few more of these verses that and talk a little bit more about the subject.

01:01:37.060 And then we'll go on to Kali Yuga News.

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01:01:42.560 Yeah, yeah, I'd just like to say I'm very much enjoying and very much enjoying this.

01:01:45.640 Thank you for inviting me on.

01:01:47.320 Yeah, no, it's a pleasure.

01:01:48.200 Thank you for coming on.

01:01:48.920 It's fascinating to speak about.

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01:08:00.680 So, you know, one of the scriptural verses that Doc Savage mentioned before he had to leave that I think is important to discuss is Acts 8, 26 to 40.

01:08:12.080 Okay?

01:08:12.560 And so this is the parable of Philip and the Ethiopian eunuch. 0.85

01:08:15.940 So I'll read this verse, and we can talk about it.

01:08:19.560 Okay.

01:08:20.000 Okay.

01:08:50.000 So Philip ran to him and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and said, do you understand what you were reading?

01:08:55.600 And he said, how can I unless someone guides me?

01:08:58.460 He invited Philip to come up and sit with him, et cetera, et cetera.

01:09:02.200 And so they read the passage.

01:09:04.180 Now, the passage of the scripture that he was reading was this.

01:09:06.360 As a sheep led to the slaughter, as a lamb before its shearer is dumb, so he opens not his mouth, and his humiliation justice was denied him.

01:09:13.960 Who can describe his generation?

01:09:15.560 For his life is taken up from the earth.

01:09:17.000 And the eunuch says to Philip, about whom pray does the prophet speak?

01:09:21.040 Philip opened his mouth, and beginning with the scripture, he told him the good news about Jesus.

01:09:24.740 And as they went along the road, they came to water.

01:09:26.680 And the eunuch says, see, here is water.

01:09:28.080 What is to prevent my being baptized?

01:09:29.500 And the eunuch is baptized.

01:09:30.360 So, you know, obviously, the reason why this verse would be pertinent is the assertion that the Ethiopian eunuch being, you know, from Ethiopia is a Nylotic African, right?

01:09:48.120 And that Philip is evangelizing one of the, you know, Ethiopes from the Lower Nile. 1.00

01:09:54.760 Why do you think he's a Nylotic African, though? 1.00

01:09:59.460 Because, I mean, I would say that he was clearly not a Negro. 1.00

01:10:04.440 And it says that he's an Ethiopian.

01:10:06.900 He's a minister to the queen.

01:10:09.040 He's reading, and he's reading Hebrew scriptures.

01:10:12.540 And he's obviously been on his way to the temple to do something.

01:10:16.320 So, he's obviously Hebrew.

01:10:19.140 And if you look in the Old Testament, it says about the Amorites, all the Amorites that were not of the children of Israel, which shows you that, which means that there were Israelites that were living in the area that before that was an Amorite area.

01:10:32.340 When it talks about Ruth the Moabite, it doesn't mean that Ruth is a Moabite.

01:10:36.460 It means that Ruth is living in the area of Moab, which the Israelites removed all the Moabites for 200 years. 0.97

01:10:43.660 We have the same problem today when we talk about people being British, and they're actually Negroes or Sikhs. 1.00

01:10:49.780 So, where it's actually saying Ethiopian there, it doesn't mean that it's a Negro.

01:10:54.640 Ethiopia, if you look at Deodorus Siculus, wrote about Ethiopia.

01:11:00.000 He wrote about there being two distinct peoples there.

01:11:02.140 There was one highly civilized people that lived the same as the Greeks. 0.96

01:11:06.440 And there was a barbaric, uncivilized savage that ran around naked, that was black and had a flat nose. 0.67

01:11:12.040 And I would say that it was the type that was the same as the Greeks, the civilized type that was sitting there reading the scriptures.

01:11:20.220 The question I have about that verse is that it says that he's a eunuch, and it tells you in the Old Testament that he who is wounded in the stones cannot be a part of the congregation.

01:11:29.380 So, I think when it says that he's a eunuch, he was far more likely to be a celibate rather than a eunuch.

01:11:35.860 But I don't believe that that was a Negro. I don't think it ever could have been a Negro. 1.00

01:11:40.740 In Judea, you had proselytes of the gate, proselytes of righteousness, and these Judeans were accepting all and sundry.

01:11:50.660 And Jesus said, every proselyte they make, they make twice the child of hell as themselves.

01:11:55.240 So, the fact that this guy was in Ethiopia tells me that he was far more likely to be a Hebrew in Ethiopia, a white Hebrew in Ethiopia.

01:12:05.200 And that's why he was reading Hebrew scriptures, and that's why Philip was able to talk to him about it.

01:12:10.800 And he was able to bring that back to his people in Ethiopia.

01:12:14.720 That would be my interpretation of it.

01:12:17.120 And that's without studying it, but that's the way that I would interpret that. 0.97

01:12:21.500 And I'd have a big question about him being a real eunuch and not having any testicles, because that's proscribed in the Old Testament. 0.97

01:12:32.240 Right. And so, the response of the Orthodox would be that, well, there's a couple of things that I would bring up. 0.93

01:12:38.680 But, I mean, one is the modern evidence and B is historical evidence for the racial category of Ethiopia.

01:12:48.900 So, I mean, if we look at the interactions of the Egyptians and their graphical depictions of their forays into the lands of the Lower Nile River,

01:12:59.800 I mean, it's pretty obvious, it's clear, I mean, from the depictions that these are not, you know, these are Negroids, that these are like lower Nileotic Negroids. 0.99

01:13:10.960 And so, there's a, you know, whether there was two different groups of people living there, you know, that's a subject that I cannot speak to.

01:13:18.700 But I would say that that, number one, establishes.

01:13:21.260 And, number two, I mean, we can even see in modern-day Ethiopia that, like, the Ethiopian Orthodox Church styles themselves as being, indeed, the Israelites, the descendants of the Israelites.

01:13:31.720 You know, and the black priests, you know, they have to memorize the Bible in Ga'ez before they can be admitted to, you know, their testing for ordination to the priesthood.

01:13:42.380 You know, and these are not, you know, fair, ruddy, Adamic men, as you say, but are, you know, quite swarthy. 0.96

01:13:52.920 Yeah, they're miscegenated.

01:13:54.760 I mean, they're brown.

01:13:55.900 You can quite clearly see that they're not, you know, they're not Sudanese.

01:14:00.660 They're not jet black Congoids. 1.00

01:14:03.040 You know, they're sort of half brown, half white.

01:14:05.360 You can see what happened to the original race of Kush, who was white.

01:14:09.460 I mean, Kush colonized part, I mean, I believe he founded Persepolis.

01:14:14.260 I mean, this King Memnon that was spoken of, he was quite clearly white, and yet he was a Kushite. 1.00

01:14:19.620 He was from Kush.

01:14:20.640 Kush was one of the first civilizations after the flood was the civilization of Kush.

01:14:25.820 They colonized as far as the Hindu Kush out to India.

01:14:29.620 And it was a brother race of Misraim, who was Egypt, basically.

01:14:33.960 The white Egyptians were Misraim, and the Kushites were his white brother in the more southern area. 0.99

01:14:39.760 This is why, if you look at the ruins that they've got there in Ethiopia, you've got pyramids there.

01:14:46.800 You've got a high standard civilization, which is what Diodorus Siculus was writing about at the time.

01:14:52.620 And then you've got this happening around about 0 AD.

01:14:57.180 And you still have these two different types there, and you can see it in the paintings and the mosaics that they have.

01:15:04.400 You can see that the miscegenation was starting to take place.

01:15:08.280 And then when you get to the 6th century, you've got the Muslims invading, and the whole place turned brown. 1.00

01:15:13.340 But until that point, you know, you had white people there, and you had black people there.

01:15:20.020 So, you know, I really don't think that that's likely to have been a Negro.

01:15:25.600 Reading the Hebrew Scriptures, they may have people that read the Hebrew Scriptures now there,

01:15:30.820 but they're obviously a mix of white people and black people.

01:15:35.760 And that's why there is that mix.

01:15:37.880 It's because that happens to them.

01:15:39.120 They also talk about the Queen of Sheba, which is from that area, going to visit Solomon.

01:15:44.900 And these Ethiopians that are there now, they have old history books that talk about that.

01:15:51.180 Quite clearly, they weren't black cannibals that were doing that. 0.99

01:15:54.760 They weren't these people running around naked with, you know, no idea of how to even plant a seed,

01:16:00.180 which is what Diodorus Siculus writes about.

01:16:02.960 It was these highly civilized people that were the same as the Greeks.

01:16:06.460 The Queen of Sheba, the Queen of the South, that's mentioned in the Book of Revelations.

01:16:11.560 I mean, she was quite clearly white. 0.66

01:16:13.100 She had to have been.

01:16:16.300 I don't think you would have Negroes with a high, you know, 1.00

01:16:19.280 we've never had Negroes with a high standard of civilization. 1.00

01:16:21.580 They've never even come up with their own alphabet.

01:16:25.640 So, yeah, obviously the guy was from Ethiopia, but I don't think that means he's black.

01:16:33.960 The same as today.

01:16:35.000 We have people that are from Britain that, you know, British people, they're supposed to be white. 0.98

01:16:38.880 And yet we've got people that come from Britain that are black, brown, Chinese, Asian,

01:16:44.520 all different colors under the sun that are calling themselves British that would be documented as British citizen.

01:16:50.940 So you've got Ethiopian citizen there who's obviously very highly placed, working for the Queen.

01:16:57.360 So I don't think that would have been a Negro. 1.00

01:17:01.060 And it's just very sad what's happened to these places.

01:17:05.580 It's tragic what's happened to the earlier white races and what happened to them.

01:17:11.020 But, you know, if you're going to miscegenate, that's what you're going to do. 0.96

01:17:14.160 You're going to destroy your race. 1.00

01:17:15.400 That's why, you know, I speak up so much about it, because I believe it's the worst possible thing that could ever be done, is to do that.

01:17:23.440 Because it doesn't just affect you.

01:17:25.040 It affects all your descendants.

01:17:27.820 The second book of the second chapter of Genesis tells you what marriage should be.

01:17:34.300 It's bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh.

01:17:38.280 One flesh.

01:17:39.220 You know, if somebody's got a different bone structure and a different flesh color, then that's not a lawful marriage. 0.62

01:17:46.300 That's fornication. 1.00

01:17:48.000 And that's against the law, against natural law and against divine law and against all nationalism.

01:17:55.000 That will destroy your nation.

01:17:57.360 And Ethiopia, the Ethiopia now, is a destroyed nation from what it once was. 0.99

01:18:03.340 I believe at the time that you were speaking of there from the Book of Acts, you still had quite a high level of civilization there.

01:18:10.920 You still had whites there. 0.92

01:18:13.200 And again, you still had these little black tribes that were living there, the same as they're still living today and the same as they were 4,000 years ago. 1.00

01:18:21.780 Or at the time when Diodorus Siculus was writing about them.

01:18:27.580 That's an interesting anthropological take.

01:18:29.520 I guess the fundamental rebuttal of this for both in the instance of Ethiopia and in the instance of India is that archaeological and historical evidence demonstrates that there was wide-scale proselytization with both the whites and the Negroes.

01:18:49.480 I mean, in the southern part of India, the south of Kerala, which is on the eastern side of India, this is where these Dravidians come from. 0.51

01:19:00.120 This is their homeland, whereas the Aryans came down, as you say, from the Hindu Kush Valley and from the Indus Valley, right?

01:19:08.120 And so that's why you have the colored gradient where the ones in the north are more white, more Arab for guys from around the area of Punjab.

01:19:17.980 And then if you go to the south, you go to Kerala, they're clearly more Dravidian.

01:19:21.220 And so we can see that in Kerala – I mean, we know historically that there are parishes that are 1,800, 1,900 years old.

01:19:28.180 And these are not the – this is not the land of the Aryans, but rather this is the land of the Dravidians.

01:19:34.160 So, I mean, I think that – I'm not certain how useful it would be to – I want to give more of a larger overview, right?

01:19:42.680 We can always come back to the details at a different time, but, you know, obviously I think there's some merit to what you're saying.

01:19:49.000 Okay. I mean, I just – you know, we can look around us at the way things are now.

01:19:52.920 We can say, oh, yeah, it's very black there. 0.99

01:19:55.020 It's jet black.

01:19:55.760 It's full of Dravidians, but we don't know that that was how it was 2,000 years ago.

01:20:00.560 I think we have to be very careful of that because people migrate, people move around, and miscegenation occurs.

01:20:09.720 And just to make a point, when I'm talking about Cush and Cush being white and the sons of Noah being white, 0.84

01:20:16.040 the traditional church teaching is that we all come from Japheth, and Japheth must have been white, therefore.

01:20:21.820 Japheth's brother was Shem, and the Israelites came from Shem.

01:20:27.340 So Shem must have looked exactly the same as Japheth, and the Jews certainly don't look like us now. 1.00

01:20:33.180 There's something happened to them to change along the way.

01:20:35.500 So you've got Shem, Ham, Japheth, they must have all looked alike.

01:20:38.880 They must have all looked like Noah.

01:20:41.180 And Noah was picked because he was pure in his generations.

01:20:44.160 So he was pure in his race.

01:20:46.540 So I don't know where these other races can fit in. 1.00

01:20:49.880 I know the church will say there was this curse on Canaan, but there's no actual biblical evidence for that.

01:20:57.640 I think partly we feel very humanistic, and we're very charitable, and we want to bring these other races in.

01:21:03.500 We want them to become Christian.

01:21:05.960 We want them to become like us.

01:21:07.160 We want to civilize them.

01:21:08.180 We want to help them.

01:21:09.200 We want to do all this natural goodness that we have as white people.

01:21:13.720 And that gets used against us.

01:21:15.660 These people get used against us, and it ends up destroying our race, and it breaks everything down.

01:21:21.540 So even though it may be harsh, we've just got to separate ourselves from them, I believe.

01:21:27.220 That's my belief.

01:21:28.100 I don't want to sound like I'm particularly nasty. 0.99

01:21:30.780 I don't want to kill them all. 0.99

01:21:31.860 I don't want to exterminate them all. 0.98

01:21:32.900 I just want them to be separate from us.

01:21:35.260 And I think that's what the Bible says.

01:21:37.140 It says that you're called to be a people separate, apart from the rest.

01:21:41.480 Don't give your sons in marriage to their daughters. 0.90

01:21:44.620 Don't seek their peace.

01:21:45.680 Just don't have anything to do with them.

01:21:47.680 And this is the difference between some people make an accusation about Christian identity and it being Talmudic,

01:21:55.440 because they think it's all about the white race. 0.96

01:21:58.220 But the Jews wish to turn all the other races into slaves and take everything from them, 1.00

01:22:03.140 whereas Christian identity follows the Bible and just says we need to be kept separate from the other races. 0.88

01:22:08.720 They are not our concern.

01:22:10.540 If we make them our concern, we just cause problems for our own people.

01:22:16.060 So I just don't want to make that point.

01:22:18.680 Right.

01:22:18.920 And we can come back to this.

01:22:20.280 I want to save this more for kind of the closing segment and final remarks.

01:22:23.040 So I want to address one more scriptural verse, which I think kind of evidentially points towards my direction.

01:22:29.700 And this is John 4.

01:22:31.480 So I'll read from this and I'll talk a little bit about Samaria and Samaritans.

01:22:37.100 Now, when the Lord knew that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus was making and baptizing more disciples than John,

01:22:44.620 although Jesus himself did not baptize, only his disciples, he left Judea and departed again to Galilee.

01:22:50.560 He had to pass through Samaria.

01:22:52.720 So he came to the city of Samaria called Sihar, near the field that Jacob gave to his son Joseph.

01:22:58.340 Jacob's well was there, and so was Jesus, wearied as he was by his journey, sat down beside the well.

01:23:04.480 It was about the sixth hour, around noon.

01:23:07.840 There came a woman of Samaria to draw water. 0.99

01:23:10.720 Jesus said to her, give me a drink. 0.97

01:23:12.520 For his disciples had gone away into the city to buy food.

01:23:16.160 So the Samaritan woman said to him, how is it that you, a Jew, ask a drink of me, a woman of Samaria?

01:23:22.360 For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans. 0.84

01:23:24.500 And Jesus answered her, if you knew the gift of God and who it is that is saying to you, give me a drink,

01:23:30.380 you would have asked him and he would have given you the living water.

01:23:33.260 The woman said to him, sir, you have nothing to draw with, but the well is deep.

01:23:37.340 Where do you get that living water? 0.82

01:23:39.300 Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us this well and drank from it himself and his sons and his cattle?

01:23:46.080 Jesus said to her, everyone who drinks of this water will thirst again,

01:23:49.400 but whoever drinks of the water I will give him will never thirst.

01:23:52.340 The water I should give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life.

01:23:57.640 The woman said to him, sir, give me this water that I may not thirst nor come here to draw.

01:24:02.900 Jesus said to her, go to your husband and come here. 1.00

01:24:06.180 And the woman answered him, I have no husband.

01:24:08.740 Jesus said to her, you are right in saying I have no husband, for you have had five husbands.

01:24:13.380 And he whom you have is not your husband.

01:24:15.880 This you said truly.

01:24:17.320 The woman said to him, sir, I perceive that you are a prophet.

01:24:19.980 Our father is worshipped on this mountain.

01:24:22.420 And then you say that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. 0.94

01:24:25.840 Jesus said to her, woman, believe me, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem you will worship the father.

01:24:33.080 But you worship what you do not know.

01:24:36.060 We worship what we know.

01:24:37.500 For salvation is from the Jews. 1.00

01:24:39.540 But the hour is coming and now is.

01:24:41.940 And the true worshippers worship the father in spirit and truth.

01:24:45.240 For such the father seeks to worship him.

01:24:47.040 God is spirit and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.

01:24:53.500 The woman said to him, I know that the Messiah is coming, he who is called Christ.

01:24:58.840 When he comes, he will show us all things.

01:25:02.520 Jesus said to her, I who speak to you am he.

01:25:07.500 There's a couple of critical things here, both in terms of what Jesus is saying, in terms of his self-revelation, in terms of who the Samaritans are.

01:25:14.380 So, I mean, the Samaritans are some of the descendants of the northern tribes of Israel that were deported and raised mixed with the Assyrians and eventually came back and settled in the land of Samaria.

01:25:27.660 And so they were reviled by the Jews for being, you know, mongrels, right, the children of fornication for worshipping. 0.99

01:25:37.200 And the big thing is that they worshipped false idols. 0.96

01:25:40.120 That the Samarian religion was a blend of the Mosaic religion and Yewa-ism, if you choose to use the term, and local pagan worship. 0.97

01:25:49.380 Even the term five husbands, it's speaking literally of her fornicating nature, right, because she's not married, she's not adultery, but it's fornication. 1.00

01:25:59.360 But also the gods that the Samaritans had been fornicating with. 0.96

01:26:04.700 They had five different pagan gods that they worshipped alongside Yewa in their pantheon. 0.99

01:26:10.480 And so what this woman, this fornicator, right, this whore, mongrel, right, descendant of, you know, of iniquity and fornication, this woman is the first one since Moses who God reveals himself to. 1.00

01:26:30.100 When at the end, in verse 26, Jesus said to her, I who speak to you am he. 1.00

01:26:37.080 In the Greek, what he's saying is, I am.

01:26:40.440 He's taking the divine name Yewa unto himself, right?

01:26:45.240 And this is a revelation of his divinity to this woman. 0.89

01:26:48.340 And so, I mean, and his disciples come back, and, you know, they see, of course, that what he's talking to this, you know, fornicating, you know, mongrel, who is so dishonorable among her own people that she has to come to the well at noon in the heat of the day without any of the other women, right? 0.95

01:27:07.540 Because she's been cast out from her own people. 0.96

01:27:11.060 She's a woman of no shame, right?

01:27:13.400 This is the one whom Christ chooses to reveal his divinity to.

01:27:17.480 So the church looks at this as an allegory for the non-Israelites, that it is exactly the people who had, you know, the children of fornication, who were idol worshippers, who were adulterous, and all of these things filled with iniquity that Christ comes and reveals himself to.

01:27:39.980 What makes you think she's a mongrel when she said, our father, and he never challenged her on that?

01:27:47.480 Well, she was, she could be, the Samaritans were descended patrilineally from Israel, from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and the, they themselves considered that they were part of Israel, but they adultered, they mongrelized with the Philistines that lived there, and also their religion was one that was mixed with idol worship.

01:28:13.740 She just said, our, our father.

01:28:17.400 You know, she didn't say, he didn't say you've got two fathers.

01:28:20.940 You know, this, this allegation.

01:28:21.740 Well, it's probably, you know, you can have a, you can have a father who is pure and a mother who is not.

01:28:26.120 Well, if you, if you have a father who is pure and a mother who is not, then you've got two fathers.

01:28:30.360 You know, this is the point that these Jews in the verse you used earlier were trying to make.

01:28:34.140 They were saying, we haven't got two fathers.

01:28:35.660 You know, she just said, our father, and Jesus accepted that.

01:28:40.700 So she was of the house of Ephraim.

01:28:42.680 I don't know why you think they were mongrels.

01:28:44.300 I mean, it was the, the tribe of Judah that had been mongrelizing the books of Ezra and Nehemiah. 0.99

01:28:51.140 Tell us about that, and about how they threw out all the strange women and all the bastards. 1.00

01:28:56.720 And then a couple of hundred years later, John Hycanus brought all these Edomian Canaanites in, and they all interbred with the Judeans. 0.95

01:29:04.580 But we're not really told very much about the Samaritans.

01:29:08.600 I dare say they weren't, they'd been up to the same thing as the Judeans. 0.94

01:29:12.220 They probably were mongrelized, a large amount of the house of Ephraim that were there.

01:29:17.120 But I think this, this woman is clearly not mongrelized because she, she shared the, the same father with Jesus, which he accepted.

01:29:25.600 And when Jesus does come across a mongrel, the Canaanite woman, he calls her a dog. 0.97

01:29:31.100 And she admits she's a dog and says, can I have the scraps from the table? 0.54

01:29:36.640 And he lets her have the, he heals her because she admitted she was a dog and asked for scraps from the table.

01:29:42.800 Whereas this woman doesn't admit she's a dog or asked for scraps from the table. 1.00

01:29:46.820 She says, our father, our shared father.

01:29:50.800 If she'd been a mongrel, I dare say he would have pointed it out. 0.54

01:29:55.600 So, and it's good to, it's good to get your perspective on it.

01:29:58.800 And I think that we're kind of coming to the end.

01:30:02.840 And I think that this kind of feeds back nicely into what I think that the fundamental point of departure is between your interpretation of scripture and the Orthodox interpretation of scripture.

01:30:12.100 Whereas for the Orthodox, the New Testament was composed by the apostles.

01:30:16.380 And so we believe that they composed this in the context of the church.

01:30:20.780 So John, who wrote these words, taught all of his teachings to the disciple, his disciple, Polycarp. 0.64

01:30:27.180 And Polycarp was the disciple, was the master of St. Irenaeus of Lyon and so on.

01:30:34.000 And so we can directly trace the apostles who wrote these things and their descendants through the church.

01:30:39.860 And of course, St. Irenaeus of Lyon talks about the need for bishops and the one visible body of the church and these sort of things.

01:30:45.580 And so for us, this scripture has to be interpreted within the light of tradition that comes down from the apostles.

01:30:52.780 And so the fundamental starting position of the Orthodox is that all the people of the earth are descended from Adam.

01:30:58.120 And so I think that this is really the key theological difference between our two interpretations of scripture, whereas because you believe in the serpent seed line hypothesis that there is this canine race, which comes not from Adam, but comes from Eve and the serpent, that the interpretation changes dramatically.

01:31:17.820 And, you know, and so, you know, I would give you an opportunity to comment on that.

01:31:24.780 I don't think, you know, of course, this is an issue that will be resolved today.

01:31:28.160 Well, I mean, whether, you know, there's a serpent seed line or not, the Bible clearly tells us who is descended from Adam, who is created by God.

01:31:39.940 And we can trace those nations back to these early white nations. 0.79

01:31:44.620 And then it tells you about the descendants of Abraham.

01:31:47.860 And we can trace who the Romans are, who the Greeks are.

01:31:51.220 We don't know who the Chinese are.

01:31:53.700 We don't know who the Negroes are. 0.89

01:31:55.380 We're just not told about that in the Bible.

01:31:57.460 We're not told about how they were created.

01:32:00.620 They're not included in it.

01:32:02.420 They're not included as a part of that creation.

01:32:07.580 So it really doesn't, you know, to me, it just, it doesn't concern them.

01:32:11.620 I mean, there's a serpent seed line hypothesis, which does explain some things.

01:32:17.480 There's also a single seed line hypothesis, which just goes back to Esau, because there are, of course, there are all these prophecies about Esau and Esau caused all these problems.

01:32:28.380 But, you know, that's, you know, sort of separate to the real issue, I think.

01:32:35.760 The real issue is that it's all about the book of the generations of Adam, his descendants, and what happened to them.

01:32:43.360 And they were the ones that all the promises were made to.

01:32:46.460 There was no outreach in China or outreach in the Sahara to the Arabs, even.

01:32:53.680 I mean, the word Arab in Hebrew means mongrel race, means mixed race. 1.00

01:32:58.660 That's what happened to these descendants of Noah. 0.98

01:33:03.760 Well, it's actually interesting that you mentioned China, because we do have evidence of this occurring.

01:33:07.960 Even as early as the 6th and the 5th centuries, there were monasteries that were being built in Tibet by Assyrian missionaries who had traveled across the Silk Road through India and into China.

01:33:19.740 And, in fact, these were the first people to evangelize the Chinese.

01:33:24.240 And we have, you know, we have these, you can go and some of the buildings still stand of these Christian monasteries from the 5th and 6th century, built in the local Buddhist architectural style.

01:33:39.100 Yet they were made by the Assyrian Church of the East.

01:33:45.520 And so, you know, I think, you know, the teaching of the Orthodox Church is that all of the nations of the world descend from Adam and then through Noah.

01:33:54.960 And that the traditional interpretation by the Church Fathers would be that the, you know, the Negroes are the descendants of the Hamites.

01:34:01.220 So, you know, obviously I understand that you disagree with me.

01:34:05.440 And, you know, that's...

01:34:06.640 I'm sorry.

01:34:07.820 What is the Church teaching then on where the Chinese come from?

01:34:11.200 If they say that the Negroes came from, through this curse on Cain or Ham, then where do they say the Arabs came from and where do they say the Chinese came from?

01:34:20.460 Well, they believe that the Arabs are descendants of Shem, typically speaking, is what's posited, and that the Asians are an intermix of Japhethites and Shemites.

01:34:33.880 But how come Shem looked different to Japheth then?

01:34:37.460 I mean, you've got one family there.

01:34:39.140 You've got Noah, his wife, and his three sons.

01:34:43.700 So how can, you know, Japheth or Shem or Ham, how can any of them look unlike one another? 0.99

01:34:49.360 They're all going to look the same as one another.

01:34:52.180 They're all going to, you know, they're all going to look like Japheth. 0.99

01:34:54.560 The other ones have changed over the years.

01:34:57.680 I mean, that would be...

01:34:59.760 That would be my point.

01:35:02.580 You know, the Church doesn't have an explanation for where these other races came from. 1.00

01:35:08.560 Well, you know, I would disagree.

01:35:09.860 I mean, I think that you could make the argument that, you know, you could talk about environmental adoption and microevolution

01:35:15.120 if we assume that they, you know, both looked even exactly alike.

01:35:19.480 You know, people's phenotypical expression conforms to the environment that they live within.

01:35:25.900 Microevolution is...

01:35:27.380 Or microevolution, excuse me, is, you know, fairly demonstrable.

01:35:31.960 I, you know, microevolution, yeah.

01:35:35.000 But the only way to, you know, to change your race is to interbreed with another race. 0.97

01:35:38.980 The only way to turn brown is to interbreed with a negro. 1.00

01:35:42.660 You know, the only way to start looking Chinese is to interbreed with the Chinese. 1.00

01:35:47.820 God created everything in its kind, kind after kind.

01:35:51.140 And with each kind of...

01:35:51.800 Well, we can see with modern, like, as an example, we can...

01:35:55.840 If we look at...

01:35:57.020 There's a...

01:35:57.820 I'm forgetting the exact word.

01:35:58.860 But, like, there's one particular phenotypical expression of the Chinese that's called epicentric folds or something like this.

01:36:03.680 And it has to do with the particular way that their eyes are built, the slanted eyes of the Chinese. 1.00

01:36:10.240 And we see that this particular phenotypical expression is also found in Europe, mostly among the Finns.

01:36:15.300 I mean, now, there have been, you know, like many genetic studies that have been done on, you know, the Finns and on people from northern Russia.

01:36:21.660 And, you know, the idea of, like, mass mongrelization with Asiatics is not really held up by genetic testing.

01:36:29.640 So I would use that as an example that, you know, we can see that, you know, there are certain northern European people who are incredibly fair who bear these phenotypical expressions that we see in eastern Asiatics.

01:36:40.860 So, I mean, I think the...

01:36:42.660 We could talk about, you know, the human...

01:36:44.600 The human anthropology of it all day.

01:36:47.540 I mean, but I think that what's important is just to kind of, you know, give Christian identitarians and, you know, like a fair hearing and to express, you know, what their point of view is.

01:36:59.340 And I wanted to make, you know, my responses from the orthodox point of view.

01:37:03.000 And so, I mean, for me, what I wanted to clarify is that when I criticize particular theological assertions or theological doctrines, and I believe that they're erroneous or heretical, okay, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a critique of the people who subscribe to them.

01:37:23.900 So there are many people who are Protestants who are more virtuous than I am, that are very good men, stand-up men, great people.

01:37:31.800 But that doesn't mean that Protestantism itself is not fundamentally incorrect and fallacious.

01:37:37.200 You know, and so likewise, what I was trying to express a couple of episodes ago was that I view the attempt to divinize the white race as being a species of white Talmudism. 0.63

01:37:47.260 Right, which is, you know, and so that's what I, for me, when I see the idea that salvation is fundamentally limited to those who are the descendants of Europeans, right, and the justification that's used to, you know, 0.80

01:38:02.520 like I was called an historian heretic because I was denying the incarnation of Christ as a white man.

01:38:09.900 And so for me, these sort of assertions suggest that the narrative that's being constructed is that the white race is being divinized in its unity with Christ. 0.56

01:38:18.700 And so that's why I'm in the context that I made those comments in.

01:38:22.060 It wasn't specifically to insult or critique specific people.

01:38:25.880 There are many good Christian identitarians who are, you know, honorable and God-fearing men and women.

01:38:31.100 And I wanted to just also say that even though we have theological disagreements that are very sharp, you know,

01:38:37.180 I'm glad to consider you, you know, one of my friends, and we can politically work towards the same ends despite our differences.

01:38:44.700 Definitely. Definitely. I agree with you there about the white race shouldn't be divinized. 0.78

01:38:49.820 You know, you tend to see this quite a lot in nationalism.

01:38:52.420 People say, oh, my race is my religion. Just, you know, it's all about the race.

01:38:55.960 It's not. It's about God.

01:38:57.160 You know, if he chooses to bless the white race, and I believe he has chosen to bless the white race in a way that the other races aren't blessed, 0.86

01:39:05.040 then we should give thanks for that.

01:39:07.340 But we certainly shouldn't be divinizing our race and, you know, worshipping ourselves.

01:39:12.920 That's the sin of the Jews. 1.00

01:39:15.160 You know, they worship themselves. 0.98

01:39:16.700 They put themselves forward as their own God.

01:39:20.240 Their God obeys them when they tell him to, you know, order him around with what to do.

01:39:25.160 You know, it's completely the other way around with Christianity. 0.88

01:39:29.580 And I think Christian identity does try to keep to what the Bible says.

01:39:34.120 And it's a bit more like revisionist history.

01:39:37.580 You know, you just assume that everything that comes out of a Jew's mouth is going to be a lie 0.99

01:39:42.940 and start from scratch, basically, with the archaeology and looking at the history from it.

01:39:50.780 And I don't, you know, I don't like to knock other Christians, you know, whether you follow Christian identity doctrine or not.

01:39:59.540 If you're a Christian, then, you know, you're going to be doing the best for your race.

01:40:02.880 Because loving your neighbor as yourself, you know, that's the law.

01:40:07.780 Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, mind and soul.

01:40:11.500 And love your neighbor as yourself.

01:40:13.340 And to love your neighbor as yourself means to love your race.

01:40:15.960 So as far as I'm concerned, any Christian nationalist that is serious about his faith, you know, is doing the right thing anyway. 0.98

01:40:22.840 And whether they come to Christian identity or not, I would hope that they do just through doing the research.

01:40:27.860 But they obviously already have a relationship with Christ.

01:40:31.520 And this is the thing with Christian identity. 0.98

01:40:34.280 You know, it says that all white people have that covenant in their heart. 0.82

01:40:37.100 They have the law written in their hearts.

01:40:39.100 That prophecy that was in the Old Testament that the law would, in the future, be written in Israel's hearts.

01:40:45.280 And that's the belief of Christian identity, is that all white people have the law written in their hearts. 0.57

01:40:50.560 And eventually we'll get, we'll come to Christian identity.

01:40:54.580 That's my hope anyway.

01:40:55.420 But it certainly shouldn't stop us working together.

01:40:57.920 And I don't think it should stop Christian identity people working with any other white nationalist.

01:41:04.340 If that's what they're centered around, love for your neighbor, then I can't see, you know, what the disagreement is.

01:41:11.140 You know, we are all one race.

01:41:12.700 And, you know, we need to be doing everything we can for our race.

01:41:17.520 It needs to be the center of everything.

01:41:19.320 Because that's how you serve God, is by serving your race. 1.00

01:41:22.120 That's, you know, the way I see it anyway.

01:41:23.700 Well, yeah, I mean, I definitely agree with you on loving your neighbor and working towards a common goal, for certain.

01:41:31.340 We're now going to move on to the second segment of our show, Kali Yuga News.

01:41:41.440 So, I mean, it's never difficult in these days and times to find stories to fill up a segment.

01:41:48.180 So, I mean, oh my goodness.

01:41:50.840 How about, let's read some news here from Sweden.

01:41:59.540 Now, Sweden, we're very famous for being a, you know, very progressive country. 0.98

01:42:03.620 So progressive that the refugees who are lying about their age, when they enter Sweden and some, you know, cat lady migration board worker decide, you know, to have sex with this refugee. 0.97

01:42:21.280 This migration board worker is being accused for being a pedophile. 0.99

01:42:27.960 It's beautiful. 0.89

01:42:29.240 They lie about their age.

01:42:30.960 And then when someone wants to burn the cold, so to speak.

01:42:35.760 That's incredible, incredible irony.

01:42:38.300 That's high poetry.

01:42:39.260 Let me just translate this article a bit as I go here.

01:42:42.140 A Swedish woman that took care of a refugee child in her home, wow, is now accused for rape against minor after having sex with a boy that is claiming to be 14.

01:43:02.440 Now, they just claim to be 14, so they get asylum. 0.97

01:43:04.780 It's pretty insane.

01:43:06.200 I mean, we don't even question it.

01:43:07.580 So you have, like, this, you know, 30-year-old, 14-year-olds that, you know, run in, like, kids, you know, kids' marathons or whatever. 0.99

01:43:17.840 So it's fucking insane. 0.87

01:43:20.500 But the woman is defending herself with saying that the suspected victim was much older. 0.99

01:43:30.800 Now, you know what?

01:43:31.920 This sounds like she's a racist as well. 1.00

01:43:34.380 What do you say?

01:43:34.940 No, I think that that's totally racist.

01:43:37.680 I mean, clearly, she's also a very ageist.

01:43:39.900 I mean, how does she know what age the refugee child identifies as?

01:43:45.860 Exactly.

01:43:46.480 I mean, age is a social construct.

01:43:49.640 It's just a number.

01:43:50.940 It's just a number.

01:43:53.120 I mean, it's just, I mean, make this comment and then give it to Sven.

01:43:57.780 It's just, I mean, what is there even to say to this?

01:44:04.440 Shocking.

01:44:05.240 It's quite a common scandal, I think, is sleeping with the refugees. 1.00

01:44:08.680 It happened in Finland.

01:44:09.720 Well, it doesn't surprise me from that perspective, but it's just like, you know, of course this would happen.

01:44:17.440 I mean, it's just.

01:44:18.120 I mean, you know, to be honest, we should be thankful at least that they're, you know, accusing her for doing it still.

01:44:26.920 I mean, they're trying to normalize pedophilia.

01:44:29.440 That's the thing they've been pushing for a good while now.

01:44:32.160 I mean, we talked about this in other episodes.

01:44:34.680 How did she manage to find one that was underage? 0.73

01:44:41.060 That's my question.

01:44:42.680 You know, they're all over the age of 18, aren't they?

01:44:45.160 At least two-thirds of the ones in Britain were over the age of 18.

01:44:47.960 They're claiming to be underage, right?

01:44:51.900 Yeah, exactly.

01:44:52.880 That's it.

01:44:53.240 That's the whole thing.

01:44:53.920 But they're not.

01:44:54.440 They're obviously not. 0.99

01:44:55.880 And when people, you know, act upon it, this shit happens. 0.99

01:45:00.880 Good job. 1.00

01:45:02.220 Dental tests.

01:45:03.420 They need to do dental tests.

01:45:04.920 Yeah, but the thing is, I don't think you get how extreme it is here.

01:45:09.760 We do dental tests.

01:45:11.040 But since they're like, yes, but Sven, since there's like 2% chance that the dental tests are wrong, they don't consider it viable.

01:45:18.860 Too much leeway there, then.

01:45:21.340 Exactly.

01:45:21.960 It would be completely inhumane to deny somebody entrance on a 2% margin of error, you see.

01:45:27.740 Yeah, he said it was 14.

01:45:31.140 You don't just have to take his word for it.

01:45:32.860 I mean, that would just be racist to not do that.

01:45:36.420 Yeah, and then you have to place him in the 7th grade or 8th grade with all the other cool kids.

01:45:45.280 I mean, that's actually a thing, by the way, that's happened.

01:45:47.620 I mean, these people claim to be much younger, they get placed in classes like that, and, you know, stuff happens.

01:45:53.220 No, I read that story about the rulers we have now. 1.00

01:45:56.380 I mean, when the rulers we have now will die, they will have to stand before God to justify this shit. 1.00

01:46:01.640 And they will not be able to justify it. 1.00

01:46:06.480 Yeah, definitely.

01:46:07.460 I mean, it's just, I mean, this is going to be a very sweet and heavy news episode.

01:46:13.880 So I'm going to read an article from the Daily Stormer.

01:46:16.420 You talked about this on your Facebook a little bit, Han, but we can go into it some more.

01:46:19.540 So it was in Sweden we were seeing an article coming out of Daily Stormer.

01:46:26.260 A cop investigated for speaking out against Muslim filth from our friend Zyger. 1.00

01:46:31.480 Oh, it's not this. 0.68

01:46:32.700 Zyger writes in the Socialist Soviet Republic of Sweden, publicly expressing even faint mixed givings about state-sponsored religion of ethnic suicide can get you in hot water.

01:46:44.320 But as their society is collapsing before their eyes, those on the front lines are starting to flip out.

01:46:49.180 We have more and more men willing to face the intense backlash and discuss the truth.

01:46:52.780 Peter Springer, a police investigator and former deputy head of the Division for Serious Crimes at the police in Orobro, has been reported to the police after he and a post on Facebook spoke plainly about those who are behind the serious crimes.

01:47:07.460 The report to the police comes out after the local newspaper, Nerequez Alejandra, found the outspoken policeman to be racist.

01:47:14.780 The usual solution to silence any criticism in a politically correct country.

01:47:19.780 Yeah, I mean, this is insane.

01:47:22.660 I mean, I remember the story playing out.

01:47:25.460 He was doing his job.

01:47:26.880 He was even tossed with, you know, finding out who's doing all the crimes by the police.

01:47:32.060 And when he got the uncomfortable assault, this is what happens. 0.98

01:47:37.020 I mean, what you have to realize is that Sweden is like a fucked up theocracy in a way. 0.98

01:47:43.480 And I don't mean that in the way that I, you know, insult past theocracies. 0.99

01:47:50.900 But I mean, we have like racist filth into our religion.

01:47:55.080 I mean, this is literally our religion now. 0.99

01:47:56.820 I mean, our churches are like Wiccan cabal sects with lesbian priests. 1.00

01:48:05.220 So, I mean, it shouldn't really be a surprise. 0.63

01:48:07.000 And what Peter Springer actually wrote here.

01:48:11.520 Let me actually read this Facebook post. 0.93

01:48:14.520 I'm so fucking tired. 0.95

01:48:16.340 What I will write here below is not politically correct, but I don't care. 0.97

01:48:19.820 What I'm going to promote you all, taxpayers, is prohibited to peddle for us state employees.

01:48:27.180 This tends to drive in non-career and non-invigual pain.

01:48:30.740 Even though it's true, I don't care about all of us.

01:48:35.720 They will soon still retire after 47 years in this activity.

01:48:41.380 I will now every week explain in detail what for employing me as investigator slash investigator

01:48:47.480 on police in Örebu.

01:48:51.680 It's not much to be good with the opinion on or other leftist criminologues.

01:49:01.820 Is that the English word?

01:49:02.800 I don't even know.

01:49:03.920 Perception in the general debate.

01:49:06.140 Our pensioners is on their knees.

01:49:08.600 The schools have met.

01:49:09.420 The health is an inferno.

01:49:10.460 The police have totally collapsed, etc., etc.

01:49:14.580 We all know why, but no one dares or wants to peddle the reason due to the fact that Sweden 1.00

01:49:21.600 always lived on the myth of prudes ultimate society who have giant resources and wants to

01:49:33.520 be the forefront of the politically correct opinion in a dysfunctional world that beats

01:49:39.460 not on their own destructive behavior in different names.

01:49:43.780 And so on and so on and so on.

01:49:45.720 I think actually this is a bit of an awkward translation, even.

01:49:50.060 But anyway, we'll actually link to the original article on Daily Stormers.

01:49:53.140 I think you read it all yourself.

01:49:55.760 So he's gone AWOL then.

01:49:57.560 He's really gone off the reservation, breaking all the rules of political correctness and

01:50:02.440 speaking the truth.

01:50:04.320 What did you expect was going to happen to him?

01:50:06.820 Of course they're going to want his head on a plate for that, aren't they?

01:50:10.460 Yeah, I mean, the leftist media is screaming for it as well.

01:50:14.980 I mean, they're saying like, what Peter Springer is saying, it has not any actual reality in

01:50:25.260 it.

01:50:25.720 It's like fake news.

01:50:29.000 No, I've actually...

01:50:30.060 Clearly it's fake news.

01:50:31.940 I mean, it's...

01:50:33.680 They just look for it.

01:50:34.660 No, seriously, though, I've lived by one of these areas and he's 100% correct.

01:50:40.400 They commit crime.

01:50:41.640 They do all this.

01:50:42.680 And some of them, I assume, are not criminal people, but they got to go.

01:50:49.820 There's no reason for them to be there.

01:50:52.280 Yeah, exactly.

01:50:52.800 They have literally no reason to be here.

01:50:54.160 And what I find kind of interesting is that if you look at all the extreme countries, you

01:51:00.380 know, extreme in sodomy, extreme in all kinds of filth, we also have the highest immigration. 1.00

01:51:06.000 I mean, it's...

01:51:07.120 What is it?

01:51:07.640 Like, Netherlands, Germany, and Sweden that are the three countries that have highest immigration

01:51:12.420 per capita.

01:51:13.960 Are those the ones?

01:51:15.300 I think those are the ones.

01:51:17.380 I mean, Sweden have second largest immigration in numbers in Europe.

01:51:22.440 I mean, longer than France, for example, longer than the UK.

01:51:26.300 But in relative numbers, we're by far largest.

01:51:31.620 By far.

01:51:33.520 Is Sweden now the...

01:51:35.240 Has the second most number of rapes, second only to South Africa? 0.99

01:51:41.320 Is that correct?

01:51:42.040 I'm sure I read that statistic recently.

01:51:43.620 I don't even know.

01:51:45.320 Terrible.

01:51:45.700 No, that's a correct statistic. 0.99

01:51:46.620 I don't know if it's Muslims being Muslims or if it's crazy feminists calling every little 1.00

01:51:53.140 single deed a rape. 0.99

01:51:54.400 I mean, I actually don't know.

01:51:55.860 I mean, it could be either.

01:51:57.620 It could be either.

01:51:58.760 I mean, both are horrible. 0.99

01:52:01.140 I mean, the feminists... 1.00

01:52:02.680 What the feminists do, they're like literally normalizing rape, if anything. 1.00

01:52:08.160 Is there anything positive? 0.99

01:52:09.300 Keep whining.

01:52:10.000 When it happens, you know, people don't care.

01:52:11.680 Is there anything positive on the horizon at all for Sweden, do you think?

01:52:16.920 Yeah, I mean, on the NRM's government, at least, that's very good.

01:52:21.020 And hopefully, the current liberal order will, in a peaceful and democratic way, fall.

01:52:30.780 Is there any support for Donald Trump there?

01:52:33.300 Or is it just blanket attacks on him in the media?

01:52:37.540 Or are there any politicians there?

01:52:38.960 In the media, well, no one really likes Trump in the media.

01:52:41.920 I mean, Trump is like a boogeyman, really, in the media.

01:52:45.280 He's kind of like the new Putin, but he's kind of like Putin we need anyway. 0.87

01:52:52.700 So it's kind of schizophrenic.

01:52:55.480 That's what I say. 0.61

01:52:56.120 It's schizophrenic.

01:52:57.080 You would think that, you know, people, there would be a solid movement that was against all of this.

01:53:05.460 Because I know it is the worst of the worst in Sweden.

01:53:09.140 I know you've got your Nordic resistance movement.

01:53:12.520 You know, you would imagine that there would be a big cohesive movement over there that rejected all of this.

01:53:18.800 Yeah, you imagine it was much, much longer.

01:53:21.860 You imagine that the people who were speaking against them were way more.

01:53:26.440 But, I mean, if people speak up, they, I mean, first of all, they get socially shunned.

01:53:32.220 And Swedes are cuddled.

01:53:33.280 They can't handle that stuff anymore.

01:53:34.600 I mean, most of them can't, at least.

01:53:37.320 Not, you know, the high middle class, you know, bourgeois people, you know, who have recently, you know, decent, in economically speaking, you know, upbringing and all this stuff. 0.99

01:53:49.860 I mean, they haven't had to face this shit. 0.98

01:53:52.860 They live in, you know, better areas and all this shit. 1.00

01:53:55.700 And these people, they keep whining on poor Swedes and they call these poor Swedes, like uneducated, you know, peasants and all this, all this shit, really. 0.99

01:54:06.700 And that's just because the poor Swedes actually live close to this. 1.00

01:54:11.480 They have seen this shit because they can't really escape it. 1.00

01:54:13.680 They don't have the money to escape it. 1.00

01:54:15.980 So it's not really about them being stupid or anything. 1.00

01:54:18.640 It's about them experiencing first. 1.00

01:54:20.780 But, of course, these really pretentious bourgeois leftists, they don't care about that stuff.

01:54:29.860 Yeah, anyway, I'm not fronting.

01:54:32.000 A little away from it.

01:54:33.060 I remember seeing that there's a really good Nordic resistance movement video where they took diversity to one of those posh areas.

01:54:40.760 I think they turn up at five in the morning.

01:54:42.360 Yeah, that video's legendary.

01:54:44.120 It's a really good video.

01:54:45.440 It's hilarious.

01:54:45.800 Call to prayer.

01:54:46.680 Yeah, excellent.

01:54:47.600 We need more of that, I think.

01:54:49.540 That was a very good point. 0.99

01:54:50.280 Your stuff like that is fucking hilarious. 0.99

01:54:53.720 Excellent stuff. 0.99

01:54:55.220 Well, he's a very brave man, that policeman, to speak up.

01:55:00.400 I mean, this is what you should do.

01:55:03.880 This is what you should do.

01:55:05.100 Well, hopefully there will be more.

01:55:05.800 Hopefully there will be more now.

01:55:07.680 Yeah, but, I mean, people won't have any morals or anything.

01:55:10.820 It's...

01:55:11.820 Anyway.

01:55:14.540 How about you?

01:55:15.560 How about you take another news, Florian?

01:55:17.960 All right, sounds fine.

01:55:19.020 Okay, so the second article I have in here is Israeli settlers protest eviction, clash with police.

01:55:26.860 And this is mostly a...

01:55:27.940 An oy vey.

01:55:29.300 An oy vey.

01:55:30.120 Mostly a photojournalistic display.

01:55:33.320 So really, our viewers will have to go and take a look at this.

01:55:36.840 You know, I mean, but...

01:55:39.060 I mean, it's...

01:55:41.060 I guess this is more kind of the spur-off point to discuss a little bit the situation with the settlement of the West Bank, Palestine, by the Israelis.

01:55:50.440 Because, I mean, it's...

01:55:52.060 As I think it was after Donald Trump was elected, you know, they re-lighted a whole bunch of new settlements.

01:56:01.060 You guys hear about that?

01:56:01.800 Yeah, yeah.

01:56:03.320 I heard something of that, that they were all expecting to be able to move in there.

01:56:08.980 And Donald Trump will be expecting them to play fairly, because he's been quite good to the Jews.

01:56:14.600 So he was expecting them to play fairly back.

01:56:17.360 So it will be interesting to see what happens there, I think.

01:56:20.880 Because I think the Jews are just going to continue to behave like Jews, and he's going to have a bit of a shock, to be honest. 1.00

01:56:29.040 Well, I mean, I don't think, actually, Donald Trump is under any...

01:56:32.880 I mean, he's a real estate mogul in New York.

01:56:38.080 So I think he spent his whole life, from his mother's tit, learning how to deal with Jewish businessmen and Jewish oligarchs. 0.98

01:56:44.880 You know, so I think, you know, that would just be my only observation, is as far as geopolitics goes.

01:56:54.040 You know, maybe he is still naive, but my personal suspicion would be that Donald Trump knows what Jews are like.

01:57:01.620 You know, I mean, his daughter is married to a Jew.

01:57:04.960 Yeah, I mean, as much as we could wish he's Anglo-Caesar, at least he's better than Clinton, at least.

01:57:14.040 You know, we haven't these...

01:57:16.480 We don't have these gay patrols wanting Christian families to bake that cake or face jail time.

01:57:23.600 Yeah, precisely. 0.85

01:57:24.620 I mean, I think that's...

01:57:26.040 You know, that would be the primary argument, is that it...

01:57:28.600 He's not Adolf Hitler, but he is certainly not Hillary Clinton.

01:57:32.500 Yeah, I mean...

01:57:33.780 Cool.

01:57:35.100 There's no such thing as a political messiah.

01:57:37.060 I mean, you need to create a ghost design, not through abstract politics, but through religion.

01:57:49.340 I mean, you...

01:57:51.740 Even if you've got the best ideology ever, it can't really even match up without religion. 0.51

01:57:58.720 It can contain religion, that's a very good thing.

01:58:01.460 But without that, it just rots away.

01:58:02.920 Yeah, precisely.

01:58:07.100 I mean, I think that's...

01:58:08.360 I actually want the Trumpists, whatever, to keep in mind.

01:58:13.480 Because, I mean, it's easy to say, oh, but this guy's good.

01:58:17.240 Everything will be fine now.

01:58:19.060 No, everything won't be fine.

01:58:21.180 It's relying on everyone else.

01:58:22.360 It won't be better, but it won't be perfect.

01:58:23.820 Relying on other people to do things for you.

01:58:25.740 Relying on politics.

01:58:26.960 I think people should make changes in their own lives.

01:58:29.320 That's where the faith and the religion bit comes in.

01:58:32.480 You know, you have control over your own life.

01:58:34.800 You can make changes in your own life and make changes to yourself.

01:58:38.840 But to have you place your faith in somebody else outside of you to do that, then, you know, you're going to be let down, aren't you?

01:58:47.680 Exactly.

01:58:48.200 I mean, the kingdom of God is not of this world.

01:58:51.060 The kingdom of God is within you.

01:58:53.460 Exactly.

01:58:53.840 All right.

01:58:56.320 Now, I mean, to address this kind of West Bank settlement question, I mean, I don't know.

01:59:02.720 I mean, it seems kind of facile.

01:59:04.400 Everybody knows what's going on here.

01:59:05.860 I mean, the Jews are, you know, actually cleansing the West Bank of the Palestinian Arabs because they want the land. 0.97

01:59:12.460 Okay.

01:59:12.580 It's not very complicated.

01:59:14.080 This is what happens.

01:59:17.440 You know, I mean, it's also literally not the first time.

01:59:20.620 So I don't really know what to say here.

01:59:23.580 I mean, as far as that goes, it's just like this is what they're going to continue to do.

01:59:28.640 And the Arabs are going to continue blowing them up because they're doing this. 1.00

01:59:32.660 Yeah.

01:59:33.020 So that's the thing is the existence of Israel in the Middle East guarantees destabilization in that region. 0.97

01:59:40.480 Yeah.

01:59:40.640 But, Goy, what you have to understand, we Jews are the Adamic race.

01:59:45.640 Okay.

01:59:46.020 We're the chosen people.

01:59:47.820 We are the chosen ones.

01:59:49.140 Okay. 1.00

01:59:49.860 And if you deny this, then you're just a stupid Goyim. 1.00

01:59:54.600 Yeah. 1.00

01:59:54.700 You're a stupid Goyim. 1.00

01:59:57.100 What did I tell you? 1.00

01:59:58.840 What did I tell you about revealing the plan?

02:00:04.100 Please, control yourself.

02:00:09.040 Okay.

02:00:09.340 No, but, so.

02:00:12.560 I think it's irrelevant, really.

02:00:14.360 What's going on in Israel and Palestine, it's pretty much irrelevant.

02:00:18.040 It's not a white country. 0.58

02:00:19.200 Well, yes.

02:00:19.660 Yeah, it is more or less irrelevant.

02:00:22.040 It's right alone.

02:00:23.220 It's relevant only from a geopolitical point of view.

02:00:24.960 Claim the Holy Land.

02:00:26.160 Deus vult.

02:00:27.840 Do you?

02:00:28.360 I mean, the reason I bring it up is relevant only from a geopolitical point of view, because,

02:00:33.260 I mean, I use it as an example to demonstrate that, yeah, this is, you know, the Israel was 0.97

02:00:37.300 created.

02:00:37.800 I mean, you can go back and look at Lord Balfour and Rothschild.

02:00:41.220 Okay.

02:00:41.840 Israel was created through the backing of the Jewish and Anglo oligarchs in order to guarantee 0.95

02:00:49.020 destabilization and an outpost to the British Empire in the Middle East.

02:00:52.500 And so it's like the whole point of Israel is it's supposed to be this doorway that the 0.99

02:00:59.520 golem of Western civilization can come in and kill the enemies of the Jews. 0.99

02:01:05.560 I think it's good for pointing out what the Jews are like. 1.00

02:01:08.340 You can point it out to people, you know, when they're killing children, dragging people 0.98

02:01:12.040 out of their homes, bulldozing them.

02:01:13.800 It's good for pointing out Jewish behavior to people. 0.78

02:01:17.020 But it's, you know, it's low down the list of priorities, sorting things out there.

02:01:23.860 I think that's my view on it.

02:01:26.520 Okay.

02:01:27.480 So Grieva, do you want to take another story, please?

02:01:31.360 No, but I'll do it anyway.

02:01:33.920 Right.

02:01:34.220 Let's see.

02:01:34.580 Wow.

02:01:34.660 Thanks, bud.

02:01:36.740 Okay.

02:01:37.480 From the local, the local.se.

02:01:39.940 If we could export the Swedish model, it would be a much better world. 1.00

02:01:44.000 That's what our finance minister, Magdalena Andersson, is saying.

02:01:51.220 She kind of looks like an alcoholic as well, you know, which is understandable, but, you

02:01:56.880 know, still.

02:01:57.740 Anyway, the OCD has released its economic survey of Sweden 2017.

02:02:04.440 Here are five key points.

02:02:06.460 Right.

02:02:06.640 I'm just going to read the points instead.

02:02:09.200 I mean, I'm not going to read all of this.

02:02:10.760 The economy is growing.

02:02:11.880 You know why the economy is growing, by the way?

02:02:14.800 Because we're loaning money.

02:02:17.380 First of all, I mean, we distribute money from people who say, who get large income.

02:02:26.020 So instead of, you know, them, you know, maybe having more kids, it gets shuffled to these

02:02:32.060 people, so these people can spend that money. 0.99

02:02:33.600 So it goes all, you know, the samsara of the economy or whatever gay shit modern economists say. 0.99

02:02:43.620 So it's not really any, you know, actual productive growth. 0.98

02:02:46.620 If anything, it's like quantitative easing in a certain sense.

02:02:51.860 What?

02:02:53.240 It's similar to quantitative easing.

02:02:55.120 I mean, in that it presents the appearance of a thriving capital market, but that's not

02:03:01.060 actually what's going on because there's no real capital behind the wealth.

02:03:03.880 Yeah, exactly.

02:03:04.820 That's what I'm saying.

02:03:05.600 And it's like, it's all debt.

02:03:09.300 And who are we putting ourselves in debt to?

02:03:11.960 Who are we putting the future generations of, you know, beige power? 0.99

02:03:17.600 Who could it possibly be?

02:03:20.700 Who could it possibly be?

02:03:23.200 Is it you, Moshe?

02:03:25.060 Are you the one doing this, Moshe?

02:03:26.120 Well, I mean, I don't own any shares in any banking firms.

02:03:30.100 I mean, this is a completely spurious.

02:03:32.100 I would never admit to this.

02:03:33.500 I mean, this conspiracy theory is fake news, clearly.

02:03:40.680 It's conspiracy theories.

02:03:41.700 It's just conspiracy theories, you know.

02:03:43.040 It has no grunting of reality, okay?

02:03:45.200 Okay, so let's move on to the next point of this conspiracy theory.

02:03:51.060 But income inequality is also growing.

02:03:56.900 Although unemployment is low or low, it is growing among foreign-born residents.

02:04:02.100 The OECD report warns that Sweden must act to contain growing income gaps.

02:04:09.020 Income inequality rose rapidly than in any other OECD country since the 90s.

02:04:14.280 I'll bet from a low level, with a report arguing that the lack of affordable housing on Sweden's

02:04:20.000 heavily regulated rental property market has worsened inequality.

02:04:23.300 Housing prices have soared in the past years, and in many cities, people wait for years for a first-hand contract.

02:04:28.720 In Stockholm, the wait is over a decade, by the way.

02:04:32.760 Yes, you know.

02:04:33.220 Over a decade for a first contract in a house?

02:04:40.280 Yeah, in an apartment, yeah.

02:04:42.200 And if you want a second contract, like, if you're going to study up there, you have to pay, like, I don't know, 500, 550 euros a month for a room in someone's apartment.

02:04:51.900 I mean, that's how it was, like, before, I mean, in this summer, when I was looking for housing up there.

02:04:59.360 And you're not even guaranteed to have it.

02:05:01.700 I mean, it's very hard even to get that.

02:05:03.740 So, you know, it's insane.

02:05:05.860 What you're suggesting, then, is Stockholm should be nuked?

02:05:12.840 Nuked with our love.

02:05:14.300 Yeah, I think that that's precisely the response, Greg.

02:05:18.740 You're really in on.

02:05:19.960 Yeah, exactly.

02:05:21.760 Policy expert, Greg.

02:05:23.080 Sven, what do you think?

02:05:25.600 This has nothing to do with the low IQ, then, of all the income.

02:05:28.780 It's just to do with the prices of the housing going up.

02:05:32.700 Yeah, it's clearly.

02:05:33.360 It's just the natural process that exists out there a priori in nature of rising housing prices.

02:05:41.240 Because IQ, it's definitely not tied to income.

02:05:44.560 By the way, do you know why the housing prices are so high?

02:05:48.740 Tell me a bit about what's going on.

02:05:49.640 There's a story in and of itself of this.

02:05:52.640 Right now in Sweden, we're in a large housing bubble.

02:05:55.560 And, you know, all these people who have all this debt on their house.

02:06:01.180 I mean, by the way, Sweden has one of the highest private debts in all of Europe, by the way.

02:06:05.600 You know, people keep saying that we don't have high national debt. 0.98

02:06:08.700 That's bullshit. 0.96

02:06:09.120 We have high personal debts, very high personal debts. 0.99

02:06:12.040 And if the housing bubble would crash, then they wouldn't have capital relative to the debts they have.

02:06:20.400 And then the economy would feel very, very bad. 0.96

02:06:23.060 And shit would turn bad, so to speak, in other technical terms. 1.00

02:06:28.560 Shit would turn bad. 1.00

02:06:29.560 That's a technical term now. 0.99

02:06:30.420 So that's why they don't, you know, build more housing, I believe.

02:06:35.800 Because if they do that, then the bubble would be threatened to burst a bit, because then it would be cheaper.

02:06:41.420 And then, you know, people would rush to sell, probably.

02:06:47.340 Well, what a wonderful thing to export everywhere else, then.

02:06:51.280 Sweden's really showing the rest of the world, you know, how to do it.

02:06:54.200 Get yourself into lots of debt. 0.78

02:06:56.300 Don't be able to afford to buy a house and flood the country with brown people. 1.00

02:07:00.940 Yeah.

02:07:01.400 A humanitarian superpower.

02:07:03.600 Humanitarian superpower, exactly.

02:07:06.060 Right, let's continue here.

02:07:08.160 Economy is growing, inequality is also growing.

02:07:10.400 Gender equality. 0.78

02:07:11.460 Right, gender equality. 0.97

02:07:12.600 It's been argued that Sweden may be losing the leaders jersey on gender equality rates, but the OECD says that it remains far ahead of most countries in the world.

02:07:22.780 Women have a high employment rate, outperforming in education.

02:07:26.340 They are well represented in government and parliament.

02:07:29.800 However, it also notes that Sweden needs to work harder to get more women entrepreneurs onto the country's booming startup industry.

02:07:38.340 Booming startup scene?

02:07:40.560 Booming startup scene?

02:07:41.740 I mean, are we talking about, you know, these companies that help, you know, immigrants establish themselves?

02:07:46.520 Is that what?

02:07:47.720 And more women onto private company boards and into senior management positions. 0.97

02:07:52.440 Women currently take 75% of Sweden's generous parental leave.

02:07:59.140 55%.

02:07:59.700 Wow.

02:08:01.060 Despite Swedes allowing moms and dads to split it equally between each other.

02:08:07.100 Now, by the way, here's an interesting thing.

02:08:08.800 We keep saying that they should have all the same jobs as, you know, Swedes. 0.98

02:08:15.080 But let's look here.

02:08:16.860 25% of Sweden's generous parental leave. 1.00

02:08:20.320 If we're going to say that women should work, then purely rationally, this is fucking stupid. 0.99

02:08:25.500 I mean, why should you educate a woman to be a doctor when the man will be able to help people much more? 1.00

02:08:30.600 I mean, it's a side note.

02:08:35.020 What do you think?

02:08:36.240 Was that 20-25% of their time is spent on parental leave?

02:08:41.120 Of the parental leave, the women take 75%. 0.99

02:08:46.520 75%?

02:08:47.880 You know, well, that's just it.

02:08:49.380 Of the parental leave, you know, used.

02:08:51.380 In Sweden, you get, like, some each.

02:08:54.340 But the rest you cannot decide on yourself for now, at least.

02:08:57.660 Yeah, and then they'll say that, you know, they don't actually earn as much as men because of that. 1.00

02:09:03.400 Because they've taken 75% of parental leave, they haven't actually been at work for that time.

02:09:08.540 They've earned less money while they've been having children.

02:09:10.780 And then at the end of that, they'll say, well, the average is that women earn less than men.

02:09:16.540 Exactly.

02:09:17.140 I mean, I actually studied a report on the stuff that Swedish Agus made.

02:09:22.380 And they factored in stuff like this.

02:09:25.280 And the income equality with these factors, and they admit that there were more factors,

02:09:29.940 but factors that you couldn't really put into numbers as easily.

02:09:34.040 I mean, the actual difference was 2%.

02:09:38.280 2%, like 2.4%.

02:09:41.040 That's literally nothing.

02:09:43.760 That's within the margin of error.

02:09:46.380 There is nothing that is even, you know, suggesting that there's such a thing as income inequality. 1.00

02:09:54.420 I mean, it's just stupid. 0.98

02:09:56.580 Yeah, they put it across all the time as if there's this big gap. 0.99

02:09:59.300 But I've never, ever heard of anyone saying, oh, well, we'll pay you more because you're a man,

02:10:04.780 or we'll pay you less because you're a woman. 1.00

02:10:06.820 I've never worked anywhere where women have been paid, you know, a lower pay rate than the men. 0.91

02:10:12.180 And yet, you know, that's the fairy tale that they try to portray to people.

02:10:17.060 Yeah.

02:10:17.940 People just don't question it.

02:10:19.160 Most people don't question it.

02:10:20.200 And the thing that's very sad is that, you know, all these images, like, they become, like, proxy babies, you know,

02:10:30.920 proxy babies for, you know, these cat women with dried-up wombs. 1.00

02:10:36.420 Okay. 0.99

02:10:38.820 Holy fucking moly. 1.00

02:10:43.600 Holy shit. 1.00

02:10:44.560 Okay, I'm going to take this last article from the Daily Crawler. 0.96

02:10:47.580 Just let me know when your recording's fine.

02:10:49.060 Yeah, I'm still recording.

02:10:51.000 I'll edit that bit out.

02:10:55.280 Okay, so we're going to do one more article this week before we end it.

02:11:03.560 This is from the DailyCaller.com.

02:11:08.180 Eight countries vowed to counter Trump by increasing abortions.

02:11:13.340 Yeah.

02:11:13.740 Eight countries have joined a fundraising drive to fill gaps from President Donald Trump's executive order

02:11:20.040 to ban U.S. aid to groups that provide or promote abortions overseas. 0.99

02:11:27.180 Kill babies to resist against Trump. 0.82

02:11:30.480 These countries are Sweden, the Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, Luxembourg, Finland, Canada, and Cape Verde. 0.96

02:11:37.060 They will meet for a joint fundraising event in Brussels next month.

02:11:42.680 Joint human sacrifice. 0.65

02:11:44.440 Yeah.

02:11:44.720 If women don't have control over their bodies and their own fate, it can have very serious consequences for the global goals of gender rights and global poverty eradication. 0.99

02:11:52.180 Sweden Deputy Prime Minister Isabella Löfven told Reuters today.

02:11:58.680 The French government recently criminalized information websites that exert psychological or moral pressure on pregnant women to not go through with an abortion.

02:12:09.180 Violators will face up to two years in prison and a 30,000 euro fine.

02:12:13.820 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

02:12:16.560 What was that last part?

02:12:18.560 Is it criminal to encourage women not to abortions?

02:12:22.560 Yes, Griva Hans. 0.91

02:12:23.580 In France, it is now punishable by criminal law if you encourage women not to murder their children in the womb. 1.00

02:12:30.920 Fucking hell! 0.99

02:12:32.640 Is that going against the human rights? 0.99

02:12:34.740 What about the baby's rights, huh?

02:12:36.140 What about the baby's human rights?

02:12:38.980 No, great.

02:12:39.520 You see, it's just a plump of cells, huh? 1.00

02:12:40.960 Or is it just this horrible, horrible woman that wants to kill her own baby? 1.00

02:12:52.420 It's fucking... 1.00

02:12:53.820 No, no. 0.99

02:12:56.060 You know, I mean, I want to say in general, I mean...

02:13:02.120 In my private life, I've started looking at a lot less, you know, Kali Yuga news.

02:13:07.520 I mean, on purpose, you know, I don't watch comedy films or anything like that anymore. 0.79

02:13:14.180 Because, I mean, it's just, I mean, if you know what's going on, you know, there's no need to masturbate to this foul stuff.

02:13:26.700 You know, I mean, we understand what's going on. 0.55

02:13:29.260 We understand where this is going.

02:13:30.260 And we, you know, we can see very clearly what the agenda is here.

02:13:34.120 I mean, the...

02:13:36.080 In the sense that this is all...

02:13:40.120 You heard the Deputy Prime Minister herself.

02:13:41.840 This is all about gender rights and global poverty eradication. 0.89

02:13:47.100 So, in other words, it's about population control and management.

02:13:49.700 Global population control and management.

02:13:51.260 I mean, when Trump kind of maybe struck one head of the hydrop, you'll get like, what was this, four other heads, five other heads, six other heads?

02:14:02.540 It's insane.

02:14:04.540 I mean, it's...

02:14:06.180 They're all...

02:14:07.080 It's like they got some Borg hive mind, right? 0.99

02:14:11.600 And they help each other out.

02:14:13.760 That's what it's...

02:14:14.140 Almost like there are demons behind this or something.

02:14:16.600 Some sort of, you know, super physical spiritual entity that communicates with each other.

02:14:25.200 A corporation or a college of these type of people.

02:14:29.740 I mean, at this point, you know, probably.

02:14:34.320 I mean, this is what Moloch worshipers did back in the day. 1.00

02:14:37.840 This is what, you know, certain Roman pagans did back in the day to try to stop the Christians.

02:14:44.180 You know, they sacrificed pregnant women. 1.00

02:14:49.680 And this is essentially what they do there.

02:14:51.440 And then these women have the audacity to whine when they're like 35 and their womb is dried up due to having like three abortions. 1.00

02:14:59.900 Then they have the audacity to whine on it.

02:15:02.880 Oh, I killed three babies, but, you know, I still want a baby now. 0.93

02:15:06.740 It's absurd. 0.96

02:15:08.360 It's just insane.

02:15:11.980 And people keep supporting this.

02:15:14.460 They need to see it.

02:15:15.440 They need to see the filth they're spreading.

02:15:17.760 And I think it was Mark Dice.

02:15:19.260 He went, you know, to the streets.

02:15:21.500 And he said, do you support abortion?

02:15:23.000 Then he showed them how an abortion is actually done.

02:15:26.600 And they were shocked because they thought it was, you know, at this point it was just a club ourselves, but it was like a fetus.

02:15:33.260 And then, I mean, they were visibly shocked.

02:15:36.380 So, I mean, they...

02:15:37.060 That was for me the big thing.

02:15:38.040 That was for me when I used to...

02:15:40.280 I used to support abortion when I was younger.

02:15:42.920 And I saw a video of an abortion being done.

02:15:48.680 You know, second trimester.

02:15:50.540 Yeah.

02:15:50.600 You know, and it's just, it's like, you know, after you see it, I mean, you can't substantiate that position.

02:15:59.720 I mean, you just, like, there's no way. 0.98

02:16:02.520 Unless you're so spiritually dead that it's just, you know, the sight of a child being murdered, you know, being chopped up, dismembered, and sucked out of a mother's womb does fucking nothing for you. 0.96

02:16:14.160 Yeah, and here's the thing, by the way. 0.98

02:16:15.520 In Sweden, the people who do the abortions are the same people who deliver babies. 0.85

02:16:20.040 And if they don't want to do the abortions, then, you know, that's, they're fine, because it's a part of the Yop description. 0.91

02:16:27.300 We don't have, you know, special abortionists in the same way. 1.00

02:16:32.520 Child sacrifice.

02:16:33.080 So you're telling me OBGYNs.

02:16:34.760 OBGYNs. 0.93

02:16:37.740 It's the same.

02:16:38.920 Child sacrifice in the temple, isn't it?

02:16:41.260 If your body is a temple.

02:16:43.860 Yeah.

02:16:44.160 Truly.

02:16:44.340 Horrific.

02:16:48.440 You're right, though.

02:16:49.240 You know, you don't like to look at it, but I think it is important that we do look at things like that and explain it in the way that we do.

02:16:56.240 Yeah, to a point. 0.95

02:16:57.480 You know, the news, they're going to put it across, as we've just seen there, it's mother's rights and family planning, and it's against the nasty, evil Trump. 0.93

02:17:07.880 And the truth of it is, it's just absolutely horrific. 0.96

02:17:09.860 It's mothers murdering their own children in the one place where they should be safe. 0.51

02:17:15.280 Yeah.

02:17:16.040 And, I mean, just no comments.

02:17:22.040 By the way, just a quick, quick look at an actual lost article here.

02:17:27.600 I'm just going to, you know, mention it briefly here.

02:17:30.240 One of the big newspapers here, owned by the Bolivian oligarchs, who are, you know, merchants, or merchants, perhaps you should say.

02:17:39.080 They were accused in court, this newspaper, for spreading, well, libel, essentially, against a six-year-old pensioner, because he wrote nasty things on the internet, apparently.

02:17:53.500 Now, they warped what this guy even wrote, but they published it, they published it with name, face, all this, essentially doxxed him, and ascribed false statements to him.

02:18:03.220 Now, the court system in Sweden is, it's like something out of a Kafka novel, right?

02:18:10.440 You are faced with political judges, politically appointed judges, like a political jury, essentially.

02:18:19.880 I mean, that's what essentially this is, it's a political jury.

02:18:22.940 They're all politicians.

02:18:24.100 They're all career politicians.

02:18:25.020 And there's not even, you know, a good balance in the politicians you meet, so it's insane.

02:18:33.060 Anyway, the decision of this political jury, they don't need to show the reasons why they, you know, acted as they did, at least not in freedom of speech cases, because it's freedom of speech cases.

02:18:50.700 I mean, what about this man's freedom of speech?

02:18:53.320 I mean, that's a real question.

02:18:55.640 So he lost the case.

02:18:56.420 And when they, here's the thing, that when they won this case, the day after, they doxxed him again, just to, you know, be spiteful.

02:19:06.140 It's, yeah.

02:19:07.840 Evil.

02:19:08.420 I thought you were going to come out with a good story then.

02:19:10.140 I thought you were going to say that the newspaper got sued and the guy got doxxed won.

02:19:16.340 No.

02:19:18.920 No, no, no.

02:19:20.280 That's kind of how oligarchy works, my friend.

02:19:23.660 Yeah.

02:19:24.020 All right, gentlemen.

02:19:26.300 Just like the Greeks wanted. 1.00

02:19:28.580 Yeah, about that. 0.99

02:19:29.380 Fucking hell. 0.98

02:19:30.480 Thank you. 0.99

02:19:31.320 Thank you for joining us.

02:19:33.020 I'm your host, Florian Geyer.

02:19:35.920 Joining me, I had today, Doc Savage, who had to leave.

02:19:39.640 I've been joining late.

02:19:43.460 But, you know, just in time, I had Grieva Hans.

02:19:45.280 Grieva, thank you for joining.

02:19:46.060 Maseltov, goodine.

02:19:50.080 Shalom.

02:19:50.900 As a special guest, I had Sven Longshanks of Radio Arian.

02:19:54.700 Thank you, Sven, for joining us.

02:19:56.460 Thank you for reminding me, Florian.

02:19:58.920 I've very much enjoyed the last couple of hours.

02:20:02.120 I hope the listeners have too.

02:20:03.620 Thank you, Colt, for making me white.

02:20:06.800 I need, uh, to all of our listeners.

02:20:09.940 Thank you, Colt, for making me white.

02:20:39.940 Thank you, Colt.

02:21:09.940 Thank you, Colt.

02:21:39.940 Thank you, Colt.

02:22:09.940 Geschlagen ziehen wir nach Haus, ei, ja, oh, ho

02:22:21.280 Unsere Enkel fechten's besser aus, ei, ja, oh, ho

02:22:30.380 Spieß voran, rauch und ran

02:22:34.180 Setz aufs Klosterdach den roten Hahn

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Mysterium Fasces Episode 16 — Christian Identity

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