Florian Geyer is joined by Jeffrey Fairwater and Patty Tarleton of Musical and Twp fame to discuss the importance of folk music and its role as a critical expression of the soul of a people of a family.
01:18:59.060To find the hand of Franklin reaching for the Beaufort Sea, tracing one warm line through a land so wide and savage, and make a Northwest Passage to the sea.
01:20:43.060Watching cities rise, watching cities rise before me, then behind me sink again.
01:21:20.060And so wide and savage, and make a Northwest Passage to the sea.
01:21:28.060And through the night behind the wheel, the mileage clicking west.
01:21:37.060I think upon Mackenzie, David Thompson and the rest, who cracked the mountain ramparts and did show a path for me to race the roaring Fraser to the sea.
01:22:00.060For just one time, I would take the Northwest Passage to find the hand of Franklin reaching for the Beaufort Sea.
01:22:16.060Tracing one warm line through a land so wide and savage, and make a Northwest Passage to the sea.
01:22:32.060How then am I so different from the first men through this way?
01:22:40.060Like them, I left a settled life, I threw it all away.
01:22:47.060To seek a Northwest Passage at the call of many men.
01:22:54.060To find there but the road back home again.
01:23:01.060Ah, for just one time, I would take the Northwest Passage to find the hand of Franklin reaching for the Beaufort Sea.
01:23:19.060Tracing one warm line through a land so wide and savage, and make a Northwest Passage to the sea.
01:23:39.060Welcome back to Mysterium Fasci's Episode 20, Arts and Culture.
01:23:45.960Thank you for rejoining us, dear listeners.
01:23:49.960Having successfully deconstructed the modern expression of arts and culture, we're now going to try and build back up this tower of battle that we have cast into the dirt.
01:24:04.960Now, I think it's kind of an apparent thing to anybody who is listening to this podcast, just the rank, the generation that we find ourselves in, in terms of popular culture and expression.
01:24:20.960But we ask ourselves, you know, what's the alternative?
01:24:24.960I think that one of the things that we have to talk about before we can even talk, before we can even speak on what is the object of this alternative current is the impetus towards this alternative current.
01:24:36.960So we stand, I mean, if what we're attempting to do is to radically reform our civilization based on the sustainable principles of our ancestors before the European Enlightenment,
01:24:55.960that essentially what we're proposing is a total divestment from the current civilization and the establishment of an alternate countercultural civilization.
01:25:08.960Now, as we have discussed, alternate culture, or any culture in particular, ultimately stands and falls in terms of its artistic expression.
01:25:23.060Because these are the things which give people a connection to the divine, to the numinous.
01:25:30.380This is what draws them into something real, something that energizes, something that they're willing to fight and die for, which is ultimately what we need.
01:25:44.980You know, we need to have alternative forms of media and especially entertainment.
01:25:51.500I mean, this is part of what we do here in Mysterium Fashies.
01:25:54.840I mean, every one of the members assembled contributes to this in their own way.
01:25:59.580And so what we're engaged in, this is not a new idea, but we're engaged in essentially a culture war.
01:26:07.400And I would not even say that the problem with that term culture war is it has become tainted by conservatism,
01:26:13.460which seeks only to present the alternative culture as being that version of Americanism which was enjoyed 50, 60, 100, 200, 300 years ago.
01:26:26.260But ultimately, the core principles which underline the American cultural experience are flawed.
01:26:34.620They're tainted with enlightenment anthropology, enlightenment theology, enlightenment spirituality.
01:26:43.580That does not reflect the cosmic order.
01:26:46.920That does not reflect the actual soul of our people.
01:26:49.420It's not saying it's completely bad, but ultimately, we would not be in this situation if we had serious and sustainable governance.
01:26:57.040Now, finding ourselves at this juncture, myself and my co-hosts and everybody listening have become erstwhile culture warriors.
01:27:10.980Because if you're going to reject the mainstream narrative, you need something to replace it.
01:27:15.460So that's what we're going to try and discuss in the second hour.
01:27:19.680And before we go any further, I'm curious to see if any of my August guests have thoughts on this issue.
01:27:27.500Certainly, Patty, I would hand it to you first, being the most proactive among us in the proliferation of this alternative cultural medium.
01:27:36.900Yeah, I mean, for me, a replacement of this, and I sort of kind of scratched the surface on this.
01:27:43.180I touched on this a little bit in the last segment, but I'm going to go ahead and sort of build on that more now.
01:27:47.860For me, I do this because I want to inspire more people among our movement to really explore and produce traditional forms of music.
01:28:01.660And they come in many forms, but specific to me, being someone from North America, I know that my traditional music here has its roots in British Isles.
01:28:11.820And so, you know, that led me on my, you know, in my development, you know, when I was coming into being and sort of forming these ideas and deciding to do this, putting down, you know, the electric guitar and casting aside the old, you know, punk aesthetics that I had in my youth.
01:28:27.920You know, in my younger days, was that I was going to, you know, I was really going to delve into that, not just from the approach of listening to the music and being inspired by it, but wanting to recreate it for myself and apply it to the time period in which I'm living.
01:28:46.740So, you know, a lot of people will often say that, you know, people that don't really listen to many, much focused traditional music, they'll say that, oh, well, you know, Patty does parody songs.
01:28:57.760You know, but of course, these are not parodies.
01:28:59.520And what they are, they, you know, traditionally, melodies were passed down.
01:29:05.280This is before the, you know, the invention of the, you know, recording equipment, recording industry that, you know, put these records out.
01:29:11.840But families would pass these melodies down.
01:29:16.060This is why every single patriotic song of the United States and of Canada are actually British melodies.
01:29:23.040This is, they were just, they were inherited, you know, we inherited them.
01:29:26.500Every soldier marched to a British melody during any war that's taken place on this continent.
01:29:33.460Civil War, the Revolution, you know, even, you know, smaller, lesser known wars.
01:29:37.700You had, you know, the Fenian invasion in Canada.
01:29:39.640These guys were still, you know, marching to old songs from the aisles.
01:29:44.240So I wanted to take those melodies, like when you hear the, you know, the ballad of Tiny Tim Wise, for example, which is one of my more known songs.
01:29:53.960That melody comes from an old Scots melody that was also used on the North American continent to write a song about Jesse James.
01:30:01.620Which, of course, you know, Jesse James was the American Dick Turpin.
01:30:05.020You know, it was virtually the same story.
01:30:06.480It was just a different guy in a different period.
01:30:08.520So, you know, using these things to reject modernity, to reject rock and roll culture, to not use electric instruments.
01:30:19.040And, you know, and by doing that, I'm not saying that I just want to live in a mud hut and not use electricity.
01:30:26.380What I'm trying to do is make a statement about the relationship between these instruments and the nationalist behind, you know, making the art, creating it.
01:30:38.560Right now we're in an age where it's not approached – it's so – it's just – it's done blindly.
01:30:46.300You know, we were talking about this earlier about how these rock and roll scenes that were inherently Jewish, you know, but the people, you know, when these scenes were organic at one time 20, 30 years ago, you know, when rock and roll was still relatively young, they were working with what they had.
01:31:00.440But now that we're being more conscious of it, we have to really start thinking about what we're going to leave for our descendants and for the people that are going to come after us.
01:31:08.620And I say, for me, musically, musically speaking, we need to reject all of this and replace it with something more wholesome, something beautiful, something that really taps into the blood, something that only we can claim, only we can have, that would seem absurd if anyone else did it.
01:31:30.440Yeah, I think what Paddy does, you know, if you take – shit, I'm sorry, my dog.
01:31:40.760When you take modern music and you strip away everything about it that is just excessive, artificial, I think when you get down to the bare bones of what's actually essential and what is valuable, you get what Paddy has.
01:31:57.500It's one guy with a guitar, melodies that are recognizable that go back centuries, and lyrics that, you know, they make you feel something.
01:32:07.600They make you think, and that's very important.
01:32:11.300You know, when I listen to Paddy's music, like he said, it's not parody.
01:32:18.220You know, there's a lot of his songs make me laugh.
01:32:20.980They're funny, and there's, you know, there's a place for humor in music that's very important.
01:32:25.380There's, you know, a lot of drinking songs, old Irish, you know, pub songs that are, you know, hilarious and raunchy, and that's – there's definitely a place for that.
01:32:34.740But, yeah, you've got to get back to the essentials of what it is that, you know, what speaks to us in music, and you go from there, and you find out what the basic essentials are, and what you're left with is what we already have.
01:32:52.760We, you know, you go back centuries to the songs of our ancestors.
01:32:57.120Well, and that's exactly why, and that's exactly why on my records, if you, you know, anyone who's heard these records like you guys have, I do have my own songs that I write.
01:33:08.780But then I also put in traditional songs that, you know, no one – most of these songs are anonymous.
01:33:15.220And, of course, they've maybe changed a little bit in some of the lyrical content over the years.
01:33:20.980But the general song has still been the same for two, three hundred, sometimes, you know, more than that.
01:33:26.660And, of course, you know, in North America's case, it's not very – or even the British Isles, most of the folk songs are – you know, they're still not that old.
01:33:33.220You know, once – you know, modern English, of course, you know, is still – you know, it is what it – you know, what it has been for the last 350 years.
01:33:41.160But these songs, I want to make sure that they're kept alive.
01:33:47.180You know, I have Green Grow, The Lilacs on The Diversity is our Strength EP.
01:33:50.660I've got some stuff coming up that's going to be released in the spring that's going to be an all-traditional album.
01:33:55.400I'm only going to have maybe one original on there, and the rest are going to be old songs.
01:34:00.360So, you know, I do this because I want to inspire more people to take this up and do it, not just listen to it, but do it.
01:34:07.060You know, I would love to see, in 20, 30 years, more traditional musicians among us.
01:34:20.520You know, it's just that there's not many people that are doing what I'm doing, but I hope that that changes eventually.
01:34:25.760You know, I'm looking right now at one of the big bookstores in Sweden, well, at the homepage of it, at least, and I see the books that are most popular, and it's all garbage.
01:35:03.120And if this is the kind of books that you are pushing on kids as well, it's not really in a wonder that kids don't want to read.
01:35:11.780I mean, I remember when I was a kid and in school, we were forced to read these gay-ass books that no one really liked, well, except maybe a couple of girls.
01:35:19.640And that put me off reading for, like, well, almost a decade.
01:35:22.900And it's not really in a surprise that people detest culture and detest art, when art for them is this pretentious, stupid...
01:35:59.780You know, and I started reading, you know, de Gobineau or I started reading, you know, started reading articles on American Renaissance or wherever I was getting the information from.
01:36:08.100And then they would cite something, an older book, like I mentioned de Gobineau, or if I started reading, you know, even reading, you know, books that came out in the 19...
01:36:18.900In the early 1900s, there's a certain aesthetic, there's a certain language that they're using.
01:36:24.140They're referencing things like the classics all the time.
02:29:52.780But, you know, even, you know, this Reza Aslan dickhead, I mean, he's, again, though, he's approaching it from this very Western bourgeois sort of, you know, approach that it's just, at the end of the day, it all is about, all it's ever about is backlash against Christian Western culture.