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00:02:16.000 Welcome back to Mysterium Fashes, episode 21, The Environment.

00:02:24.000 Thank you, friends, for joining us again today for another episode.

00:02:29.040 Today we're going to be discussing a topic that was suggested to me by one of our listeners.

00:02:34.840 I forget his name off the top of my head, but thank you, you know who you are.

00:02:38.500 So, this is a topic that we see talked about sometimes in far-right circles, but rarely does it receive extensive treatment or, you know, a serious breakdown in analysis.

00:02:57.280 That's what we're going to try to do today, is we're going to try to put on our bourgeois thinking caps and see if we can parse out why we have an imperative for environmental conservation.

00:03:10.460 So, I mean, just to begin with, I would say that anybody who is on the far-right or who considers themselves to be, you know, a national socialist, a reactionary, a traditionalist,

00:03:19.940 I would say there is an imperative, a serious imperative, a part of any ideological framework, any policy scheme, that we protect the environment, we engage in environmental conservation.

00:03:34.320 Now, and this is something that's interesting because it's, we're going to talk about this a little bit later, but this movement has been co-opted and falsely equivocated as an exclusively far-left movement.

00:03:46.800 When historically, this has not been the case.

00:03:51.220 Before I go on, I just want to open it up to my co-hosts, who I forgot to introduce in my haste.

00:03:55.820 Joining me today, I have Grieva Hans. Thank you, Grieva.

00:03:58.320 Yeah, good to be here.

00:03:59.580 And Doc Savage. Thank you, Doc.

00:04:02.080 Always glad to be here. Hail Christ King.

00:04:04.740 Hail.

00:04:05.080 So, friends, sorry for skipping your introductions, but what's your take just at the beginning, at the outset,

00:04:13.160 especially as it pertains to, like, the imperative, the real need that we have to secure this policy in?

00:04:21.600 I think this is very, very important, and we should all take it very seriously.

00:04:27.060 I think many of us come to these things through the sort of the standard milquetoast right-wing bourgeois kosher conservative circles where the environment is sort of sneered at.

00:04:42.140 And that's something that we have to really examine in ourselves, in an examination of conscience of all of these implicitly modern ideas that are, you know, ultimately, you know, Jewish. 0.84

00:05:01.380 I agree wholeheartedly.

00:05:03.280 Yeah. Hans?

00:05:03.860 Yeah, I'm actually thinking of, you know, all these concrete jungles that we built during the 60s and the 70s, and we didn't care about the environment.

00:05:18.220 We didn't care about how even the buildings, you know, are supposed to blend into the greater picture, and we just built these ugly buildings, committed violence upon the whole area.

00:05:31.380 Now, this isn't exactly directly related to the environment, perhaps, but my point is that when you just say, fuck the environment, what you're doing is that you're basically saying, let's ignore gas equation, let's ignore beauty, let's just do whatever we want because, I don't know, I want to do this. 0.55

00:05:52.760 Yeah, precisely. And we're going to get into this, I think, a little bit later, and I think you do raise a good point. 0.68

00:05:56.160 Anyway, so, yeah, what I think I agree with Doc and both of you, Hans, is that this is an extremely important subject, and it's something that a lot of people who come to this juncture from a moderate right perspective, especially from libertarianism, this is an area that I don't, that is not really square in their minds.

00:06:17.840 I don't think a lot of people, like, are, you know, full, you know, they just want to chop down all the rainforests or anything.

00:06:25.720 You see some of that sometimes in, like, the mainstream, right?

00:06:29.820 Just this kind of counter-signaling to the leftist environmentalism where it's maximum anthropocentric development of the natural resources.

00:06:38.180 Consequences be damned. 1.00

00:06:39.200 You have, like, these hippie new-age faggots who are, like, hugging trees and, like, speaking to the trees in the astral plane and some shit like that, and that's just retarded. 1.00

00:06:52.400 Sure, but I think that this is ultimately, that whole mentality is a product of capitalism, basically, of total laissez-faire, like, free market capitalism. 0.98

00:07:05.560 And I think that that's kind of why we sometimes see some of these streams of thought in libertarian thinkers and in people who come into this movement from the libertarian realm.

00:07:17.340 Well, I mean, in addition to the sort of the odd sort of tree-hugger, quote-unquote, you also have the sort of the extinctionist wing of the deep ecologists who are like, mankind is a cancer upon the earth.

00:07:38.900 And if that's what environmentalism is, then, of course, anyone with normal, natural senses of loyalty to God, suicidal, yeah.

00:07:50.540 Right.

00:07:51.000 They will react against that.

00:07:52.700 So, I think we have to be clear in the beginning about what we mean when we say the environment and what we mean to say when we want to conserve the environment.

00:08:04.600 Because it should seem that, on first glance, that conservation of natural resources and natural beauty should be a small-c conservative idea, yet somehow it's not.

00:08:17.580 Yeah.

00:08:19.520 I mean, it's even quite Christian.

00:08:23.760 As I said, I mean, you're preserving God's creation.

00:08:25.840 Yeah.

00:08:26.340 Well, it is a very Christian thing.

00:08:27.180 Take care of it.

00:08:27.720 We're going to get into that in a bit.

00:08:29.240 Oh, I see.

00:08:29.680 So, and I agree with you.

00:08:31.040 Yeah.

00:08:31.360 And it's really strange how we've come to this juncture where conservatives are really liberals.

00:08:35.620 And so, one of the things that would be a poor form of us not to mention as we begin is, like, historic far-right environmentalism.

00:08:49.440 And most of the national socialists who are listening to this podcast know this, but I'm certain that there are a few listening who do not, is that the NSDAP, the National Socialist German Workers Party, had the strongest environmental protection policies in Europe when they took power.

00:09:05.940 And enacted the most stringent environmental protection regulations in Europe, even including, like, animal welfare legislation, both domestic and industrial channel.

00:09:20.460 And so, this was something that they took very, very seriously.

00:09:26.340 And it's – so, I bring this example up just to demonstrate that, you know, what the – this kind of constructed narrative is totally baloney.

00:09:37.680 And Jonathan Bowden actually has a very good lecture on this subject that you can look up on – it's probably just one of his London form lectures.

00:09:46.480 You can look it up on YouTube.

00:09:47.320 And he talks about how that, you know, environmentalism is not, in fact, a left-wing thing.

00:09:55.960 It's a very, very far-right thing.

00:09:58.140 More than that, he talks about how after the defeat of Germany in World War II and the dissolution of the NSDAP, in the post-war Western Republic years, we saw the formation of a whole bunch of political parties.

00:10:11.280 And he was talking about how the Green Party in its early days actually had rules that you could not discriminate against ex-Nazis who wanted to join the party because something like 40 to 45 percent of party members used to be part of the NSDAP.

00:10:24.160 Well, that makes sense.

00:10:26.260 I mean, they are really the only idealists. 0.99

00:10:28.780 And when you look at these liberal faggots, you see that they don't really have any actual ideas. 1.00

00:10:33.660 I mean, I've heard stories of, you know, these environmental groups in Sweden that, like, go to a camp outside in a forest or whatever. 0.99

00:10:41.200 And then they basically end up ruining the air.

00:10:45.180 They actually live briefly, and it's trash everywhere, and they don't clean it up.

00:10:50.160 I think I've heard a similar story sometime in America or something. 1.00

00:10:54.320 I mean, they're hypocrites. 0.99

00:10:55.300 They don't care about anything. 1.00

00:10:56.220 They don't care about the environment.

00:10:57.140 They don't care about sustainable development.

00:11:01.220 I mean, the whole sustainable development thing that we hear from the elites, that's not really a way to save the environment or something like that.

00:11:08.700 That's just a way to have more control over people.

00:11:11.200 I mean, you look at these sustainable cities that they're, like, experimenting with in Saudi Arabia or one of these Gulf states.

00:11:20.060 I mean, that's dystopia.

00:11:21.580 That's like something from Brave New World.

00:11:23.160 We're going to get into that in a bit.

00:11:24.320 And, yeah, I think that this is a false narrative that we identified from the very beginning as something that was purposefully constructed to co-opt, especially Europeans' natural sense of environmentalism and directed towards the end of globalism.

00:11:37.120 And that's what I ultimately honestly think that the end of, like, the political movement for anthropogenic global warming or climate change is all about is it's not a genuine environmentalist cause.

00:11:49.440 It's rather a method to extort political control over the countries under the guise of controlling greenhouse gas emissions.

00:11:57.600 Now, Doc, did you want to talk about Tolkien and the romantics?

00:12:00.480 Yeah, just to quickly add, there's an expression in at least the American normal right about environmentalists being watermelons, and that is to say green on the outside and red on the inside.

00:12:15.000 But, yeah, so there is a deep strain of sort of romantic reaction against the ugliness of the Industrial Revolution, and that's something that Tolkien himself was tapping into.

00:12:34.600 That's something that the neo-Raphaelites, the painters, were tapping into.

00:12:41.600 That's something that William Blake, the poet, was tapping into.

00:12:45.220 I mean, this sort of romantic art movement covered all aspects of the arts.

00:12:54.180 And you can directly see that this romantic art movement would directly influence NSDAP.

00:13:02.860 I mean...

00:13:03.660 No, certainly, romanticism is directly into the NSDAP.

00:13:08.000 Yeah, no, and I think that you make a really good point, is that environmentalism becomes the cause de jour for the right wing in the light of industrialism, which people who are really far right actually are definitely skeptical of at the minimum and opposed to at the maximum.

00:13:27.980 And so, I mean...

00:13:28.620 Well, and that's the thing, I just want to make this point, and it's like, if you think about it, the environmentalism of the 19th century was mostly pioneered by, you know, Anglo-liberal capitalists and Jews. 0.55

00:13:41.600 These are the people who were interested in the industrialization of the economy, and was the oligarchs.

00:13:45.620 And if we, you know, any cursory examination of industrialization in England and on the continent, even in mainstream history books, mentions the mass misery that was caused by the enclosure of the lands in England by the oligarchs, the destruction of the commons, and the huddling of the rural masses into, you know, just the decrepit conditions of the cities and the factories.

00:14:08.240 And so, I mean, if we care about the worker, I mean, if we care about the laborer, you know, we have to understand that environmentalism is wrapped up in all of this.

00:14:17.120 And so, if our movement, the far right, is something that is, like, pro-labor in a real serious non-Marxist way, then we have a duty to examine this, you know, through that lens.

00:14:28.800 And we have to see that environmentalism and labor issues are inextricably linked.

00:14:33.820 Yeah, I can see that trend as well in one of Ernst Jünger's works, actually, specifically.

00:14:41.260 The Marble Cliffs, actually, I haven't actually gotten around reading the glass piece.

00:14:44.900 I've heard that that's supposed to be even more intense in that point of revolting against the machine, so to speak.

00:14:52.220 And in the Marble Cliffs, you see the distinction between the rural life in the small village of Altaplan, or whatever it was called.

00:15:02.480 And the coming chaos one day, the Forest Watcher comes.

00:15:08.740 Now, people are saying that the Forest Watcher is supposed to be Hitler or something.

00:15:12.740 I don't really buy that.

00:15:13.560 The Forest Watcher is supposed to be something else entirely.

00:15:16.980 Because if you see what Jünger is, well, the main character in the novel is doing, he's cataloging flowers.

00:15:24.380 He's trying to understand nature.

00:15:27.980 He's trying to understand the environment.

00:15:29.800 But what is the Forest Watcher doing?

00:15:31.500 He brings war.

00:15:32.640 He brings the will to power just for the will to power's sake.

00:15:36.100 Power for power's sake.

00:15:37.460 Which is just conquering a huge void.

00:15:39.300 And there is this part in the end, I'm spoiling it slightly, of where the Forest Watcher's war has basically just set ablaze the Forest.

00:15:50.740 It's burning.

00:15:51.520 It's burning up.

00:15:53.080 It's being destroyed.

00:15:53.880 So, the point is that what we're seeing here is just another way of putting power for power's sake, before just actually doing what you're supposed to do.

00:16:10.740 And so, yeah, I think that we've, I mean, we can talk a little bit more about dispelling the false equivocation.

00:16:23.840 But I think that what it comes down to is, I mean, when we talk about environmentalism, we typically understand it as being the natural environment.

00:16:34.260 But that's not just the case.

00:16:37.060 I mean, I think environmentalism also extends to, like, architecture and urban planning and the way our civilization organizes its habitation.

00:16:47.940 Oh, that's a great point.

00:16:49.420 I'm so glad you brought that up.

00:16:51.960 And environmentalism also has to be concerned with our environment, right?

00:16:57.280 Yeah.

00:16:57.480 And just the sheer, brutal ugliness of modern Baja box architecture is just, it's soul-destroying.

00:17:11.580 I mean, you can't even think clearly surrounded by buildings like this.

00:17:17.060 Yeah, there's been cases here in Sweden where people who actually want to build something older, you know, a bit adapted to the modern age, so it's not like a dry copy of, like, some classical architecture.

00:17:28.940 But it was, like, inspired by it.

00:17:30.440 You know, something that's actually pretty beautiful, something that will be there for, like, 500 years or something.

00:17:35.840 When people want to build something like that, they, the Architects Guild, whatever it's called, the Union, Architects Union, they cried.

00:17:45.680 They cried because they're actually building something that's not a shoebox.

00:17:49.080 And they tried to do everything they can to stop it, which is just absurd.

00:17:54.540 Right, and I think that this is getting back to your point that you made, Hans, is that the degeneration of our architecture and the destruction of the natural environment go hand in hand.

00:18:03.760 It's because our souls are getting uglier.

00:18:06.340 And so it's reflecting upon our environment.

00:18:08.980 Yeah.

00:18:10.040 You know, and this is kind of brings me naturally into the next point, which is that as Christians, this is an incredibly important, we have a religious duty.

00:18:18.720 There's nothing else to say to this.

00:18:20.140 If you have a – it is sinful to have an exploitative view of the environment where the natural world and its resources are, you know, viewed as only this dead matter for use in our own benefit.

00:18:39.980 So I think it was Basil the Great, but I can't remember specifically how we were talking about it.

00:18:44.240 Well, Basil the Great talks about how when God created man, he created him as a royal priesthood over all of creation.

00:18:50.800 Man was the capstone of God's reality.

00:18:55.440 And so man was meant to steward and to have dominion over the creation that God had made.

00:19:01.820 God put him in the garden.

00:19:02.760 And so Adam, as the patriarch of the human race, as the corporate executive, and I mean corporate as in a broad sense, as in a body, corporus, was responsible for the entire natural world and for the inheritance of it, what he would pass on to his children.

00:19:25.800 And so when Adam was tempted by his wife and ate the apple and they fell from grace, the entirety of the natural world was brought down with them.

00:19:37.480 Death was introduced into the entirety of the created order.

00:19:40.260 This is a critical point of Christian theology, is that death is not something natural.

00:19:44.820 Death does not come from God.

00:19:46.680 Death comes from sin, which comes from our ancestor Adam, and we inherit the sinful world that he was supposed to steward, and, you know, the one who tempted him, the devil. 0.77

00:19:57.000 And so our role as human beings, as the image and likeness of God, is to impose logos upon the created order, to try and regulate it and keep it in harmony.

00:20:12.500 And that's not to say that there can't be anthropocentric development, that we can't, you know, cut down trees or mine or anything.

00:20:20.520 It's ridiculous, of course.

00:20:22.060 But it's an understanding that we ultimately are going to have to answer before the throne of judgment as to what we've done with our natural inheritance that God has created and given us.

00:20:31.740 Because we certainly did not create the natural order.

00:20:36.100 Exactly.

00:20:36.680 I think that's from a human condition.

00:20:41.300 Yes, it's correct.

00:20:42.260 I mean, reality is a fantasy, the world's an icon.

00:20:45.880 Oh, exactly.

00:20:46.900 Yeah, and that brings me to the next point, is that the world is, in fact, an icon.

00:20:52.020 I mean, what an icon is, is it's essentially a symbolic representation of a spiritual reality.

00:20:59.960 So it's using...

00:21:03.260 Maximus the Confessor talks about this idea of, like, logoi for the logos.

00:21:09.440 That the logos, when Jesus Christ, second person of the Holy Trinity, when he creates the entire material world, he creates it after his own image.

00:21:20.540 It reveals something about who he is in the way that it's organized and ordered.

00:21:25.500 And so in this way, in the natural world, we can see reflections of the internal life of the Holy Trinity and of the orderer, which is our Lord.

00:21:36.200 And so all of the environment is a symbolic representation of God.

00:21:43.960 It all points to the existence of God and to his personality, to his inner workings, just as an icon does.

00:21:50.200 Yeah, I mean, logoi, I think that's plural of logos.

00:21:55.020 So it's saying that each thing actually has its own level world, so to speak, its own ideal, its own essence, if that makes sense.

00:22:03.940 And what the physical plant is doing, it's conforming to the logoi, the essence of what it actually is.

00:22:13.560 Yeah, precisely.

00:22:14.920 Doc, did you want to say something?

00:22:15.960 We're hitting so many great points so quickly.

00:22:21.900 It's almost difficult to keep up.

00:22:24.140 Absolutely.

00:22:26.400 You know, saying that the world is an icon is essentially a Christian way of saying platonic hyper-realism, you know.

00:22:38.000 And, of course, I have to agree with that as a Platonist myself.

00:22:43.820 And just so simply, if Eden is the ideal and man is the steward of the world, then shouldn't we be aiming for, you know, more gardens and fewer parking lots?

00:23:02.180 I mean, like, how complicated does this have to be for people?

00:23:06.100 Well, I mean, we're demolishing churches and we're building public lots of stuff.

00:23:10.440 That's the degree where we have degenerated now.

00:23:13.080 We don't care about the beautiful.

00:23:15.220 We just want our world.

00:23:16.360 We want our filth.

00:23:18.340 It's like...

00:23:19.140 Well, yeah, of course.

00:23:20.520 And, I mean, I want to linger on this topic for a bit longer because I think it's very important.

00:23:25.180 And I think that there are a lot of Christians, especially Americans, who don't actually hear this phrased in a succinct traditional manner. 0.99

00:23:36.680 They hear, you know, hippie, gay, garbage theology. 0.99

00:23:40.760 And so, the... 0.99

00:23:43.180 One of the things is that, you know, God creates man in his image and likeness and he places him...

00:23:51.500 He makes him last of all creation.

00:23:53.720 So, man's role within creation is reflective of everything else.

00:23:59.620 In a sense that, man acts as the microcosm of the macrocosm of the natural world.

00:24:08.540 Not just the natural world, but also the supernatural world, the preternatural world.

00:24:13.320 And so, man's actions and man's relationship with nature, you know, we can see directly is the single most important factor for its welfare.

00:24:27.460 Right?

00:24:28.780 We've reached a level today where man's development is profoundly affecting the harmonious function of the natural world.

00:24:40.220 Which would have been, you know, like inconceivable to our ancestors 300 or 400 years ago.

00:24:47.420 Yeah.

00:24:48.420 I mean, it has gone beyond just having the machine as a tool, having human innovation as a tool to reach a goal.

00:24:55.880 Well, now we have become the machine ourselves.

00:24:58.800 Ah, you have a great point.

00:25:00.400 No, no, no.

00:25:01.140 I think I have said this in a couple of episodes before.

00:25:04.980 Maybe I have.

00:25:05.600 But it's a point that I really want to repeat.

00:25:09.440 And it's, again, basically what Spengler said.

00:25:11.320 That when the high culture gets very categorized, you eventually get a slave to the category.

00:25:16.840 Because you don't really have the spirit left anymore.

00:25:18.760 You don't have anything that animates the culture anymore.

00:25:21.680 Now, the machine is a great symbol of this.

00:25:24.300 Because what's the machine?

00:25:25.220 It's just pure power.

00:25:27.440 Now, of course, this power can in theory be used for good.

00:25:30.020 But in our stage, we have basically let the machine become society.

00:25:36.260 We have made society into the machine and we're enslaved to the machine.

00:25:40.400 Yeah.

00:25:40.840 And one of the things I think that is really important is that if we look at the created order, we can see that it's organic.

00:25:48.600 That God does not create computer programs.

00:25:52.320 He creates organisms, living things that possess a dynamism that cannot be properly quantified.

00:26:02.260 There's a certain ineffable quality to life, which as Christians, we would say is the breath of life, the grace of the Holy Spirit residing within living things.

00:26:12.580 Because the physical operations are just manifestations of a real, living, ontologically substantial spiritual entity.

00:26:22.500 But with man, you know, look at the Freemasons. 0.77

00:26:25.960 We look at the square and the compass and the chakra board.

00:26:29.000 This is, I think, a great revelation of the highest achievement that man can hope to do.

00:26:34.440 The best thing that man can hope to do is construct in ones and zeros.

00:26:38.620 Yeah.

00:26:38.980 Is to quantify things in a precise way and create very complicated machines and computer programs.

00:26:46.900 But he can never create something that's truly organic, that's a self-referential system.

00:26:50.520 I don't think that man can create true AI.

00:26:52.980 Because AI is always going to be referencing something outside of itself.

00:26:57.040 Next second.

00:26:57.400 You know, man builds, we look at our architecture around today.

00:27:00.400 Man builds these disgusting, brutalist skyscrapers, these square blocks.

00:27:05.040 You know, and, but look at, God builds, you know, 200 foot tall sequoia redwood trees.

00:27:12.920 God builds mountains that are more majestic than anything we've hoped to put together.

00:27:17.200 There's another thing as well.

00:27:18.820 I mean, what is life itself?

00:27:21.700 I mean, you could try to qualify it with, you know, all these, say, producers, you know,

00:27:26.380 and maybe you can even say that's a thing like, the fire is life.

00:27:30.720 But the point is that what makes matter come alive?

00:27:34.800 It is literally is the touch of God.

00:27:36.180 I mean, just, just think of a conception, right?

00:27:40.560 What makes it that this, this cell actually develops into a human body?

00:27:46.080 What makes it that this body then become conscious?

00:27:49.000 It can't just be dead matter.

00:27:50.960 It has to be something else.

00:27:52.160 I mean, just about consciousness, you can't quantify consciousness in some material term.

00:28:00.280 I mean, it's, it's absurd.

00:28:02.860 There's no conscious atom, you know, it's no thing that you just plug into something and

00:28:10.260 suddenly make it go conscious.

00:28:12.140 That's not how it works.

00:28:13.080 Ultimately, I mean, you're absolutely right that we have a complete inability to quantify,

00:28:20.080 to measure, to interact in any meaningful scientific way with consciousness itself,

00:28:26.480 which, of course, you can see the consequences of that.

00:28:30.560 Right now, there are, there are biological scientists who deny consciousness itself.

00:28:36.140 They do.

00:28:36.700 Yeah.

00:28:37.040 Yeah.

00:28:37.480 I mean, that's kind of, kind of self-defeating, isn't it?

00:28:40.380 I mean, if there's no such thing as consciousness, then, I mean, how can I say that?

00:28:43.960 Yeah.

00:28:44.160 Well, why do we have it?

00:28:44.940 Why do we even speak to each other at all? 0.98

00:28:46.640 You know, it's just, it's a ridiculous, I mean, it's a ridiculous proposition. 0.60

00:28:49.460 And I mean, that's the thing, you know, I find that the best thing to, when you're 0.90

00:28:52.700 dealing with these relativists is just ask them, you know, I mean, bring up violence, 0.89

00:28:56.960 just say, okay, so if I, you know, if I hit you with a hammer right now on the head,

00:29:01.340 like, would you feel that? 0.97

00:29:03.080 Would you be conscious of that?

00:29:05.520 You know, is that a, can you, can you relativize that away?

00:29:08.720 Well, this is what happens when you fall into intellectualist circle, Yurk.

00:29:12.780 Yeah, I know.

00:29:13.360 Well, no, but that's the thing.

00:29:14.380 Well, no, but I think that the Zagreb, it's actually quite legitimate, because I think a 0.68

00:29:17.420 lot of this, this disgusting intellectualization, where they produce these ridiculous theories,

00:29:22.840 this just comes from a detachment from the natural world. 0.96

00:29:25.640 They're detached from what's real.

00:29:27.700 You know, they don't even so much as lift weights.

00:29:29.900 They don't encounter anything that they cannot, that's not malleable or mutable with their

00:29:34.700 mind.

00:29:34.940 Well, it's, it's just solutions, right?

00:29:36.600 It's just solutions.

00:29:37.140 Because they don't really have the source of, of everything as good left.

00:29:40.860 So they, they are just this, this, this, this sludge.

00:29:43.960 It's like they are being dissolved into nothingness.

00:29:48.920 Yeah.

00:29:49.060 Well, I'd like to point out kind of the two, two foundations of what we now call modernity

00:29:56.540 in the way people think about things or, or think badly about things.

00:30:01.960 Um, you've got, uh, you've got, of course, Galileo, um, taking, taking the, the earth out of

00:30:11.800 the center, um, and, and directly, um, denying the importance of, of the incarnation in, in human

00:30:22.660 contingent history.

00:30:23.820 And then you have, uh, Renee Descartes creating a separation between, um, between mind and

00:30:32.120 body, between consciousness and matter.

00:30:34.380 And, and, and, and those two ideas, uh, inevitably result in, um, in this sort of, this, this, this

00:30:44.120 ugly intellectualism where, you know, either you are entirely your body, you are entirely

00:30:51.820 a biological machine and, and the consciousness is just an epiphenomenon, an illusion, or you 0.74

00:30:59.180 are, you are only your consciousness, you are only your mind and you are occupying a sort

00:31:05.920 of material robot.

00:31:08.840 And, uh, either of these results in, um, seeing the earth, not as an altar, not as an icon, not

00:31:17.520 as significant in, in, in a, a meaningful cosmic order, but as at best a, a sort of cradle

00:31:29.920 from which, you know, this, uh, this, uh, this sort of cyborg master race will emerge

00:31:36.320 from to, to turn the entire universe into more parking lots and more concrete apartment

00:31:42.680 blocks.

00:31:43.880 Yeah.

00:31:44.420 Well, that's, that's actually what the Warhammer 40k future is.

00:31:48.100 Uh, it's one that's, uh, totally based on these principles and it's ironic that that's

00:31:52.560 such a cult image in, uh, in some of these circles.

00:31:56.180 But yeah, no, and I mean, I think one of the other things to talk to me in nature as

00:32:00.420 an icon, I want to focus, get back on this point, um, cause I think this is one of the

00:32:04.780 biggest issues as I know that from a personal perspective, um, some of the most intimate

00:32:10.180 spiritual experiences I've ever had have been communion with God through the splendor of

00:32:15.880 nature.

00:32:16.620 And I talked about this on, um, actually I think it was the second episode, but what happens

00:32:22.700 is the, in natural environments, which are overflowing with beauty, overwhelming with

00:32:31.520 the harmony of God's creation.

00:32:34.220 You know, for me, uh, when I think about things in Canada, certainly if we think about Cape

00:32:38.900 Breton Island or, um, on the West coast, if we think about, uh, Moskina river, Prince

00:32:44.040 Rupert, in the areas that are just, um, they, they so totally reflect God's majesty and are far

00:32:52.040 beyond anything that human beings could ever, you know, begin to hope to create with hands

00:32:55.900 more mighty and gracious than even the best of our pyramids.

00:33:00.400 Yeah.

00:33:01.000 You know, that the, it's in these vicinities where there's a splendor and overflowing of

00:33:08.260 beauty.

00:33:08.760 And what happens is this splendor, this overflowing of beauty draws man outside of himself and

00:33:13.580 draws him into wonder.

00:33:14.700 Cause he cannot grasp with his mind, the totality of, um, the immense majesty that's being presented

00:33:23.020 to him.

00:33:24.260 You interact on it with a level that's above concepts with your news, with your, your heart,

00:33:30.800 your, your higher, the highest faculty of the soul.

00:33:34.100 And it's in this communion with nature, this communion with the splendor and the glory of

00:33:39.080 God's creation that the logos manifests himself.

00:33:41.860 So it was actually, um, a part, which I read a while ago, how the Chinese basically viewed

00:33:49.200 their art.

00:33:50.120 Now, a form of Chinese art was that they basically made images of landscapes.

00:33:55.160 Now, the catch was that these landscapes actually don't exist.

00:33:59.320 So they actually made their own landscapes.

00:34:01.980 And how was the idea of actually crafting a landscape like this?

00:34:06.020 Well, they would, uh, basically try to grasp the, the essences of what makes something beautiful.

00:34:15.120 And they would try to arrange it in a certain way so that it is basically reflecting again.

00:34:20.880 Now, of course, it's not like actually viewing a wonderful landscape, but they basically try

00:34:25.920 to do something like that as well.

00:34:27.580 And that was also the philosophy behind the Chinese gardens.

00:34:31.480 They are basically trying to arrange the, the, she by comprehension of the lead that basically

00:34:40.600 they're trying to draw out the energies out of the essences and arrange it so that it becomes

00:34:45.960 beautiful.

00:34:46.340 Yeah, precisely.

00:34:50.360 And if that makes sense.

00:34:52.060 Yes, no, certainly.

00:34:52.860 I think that you, uh, you've got a lot to add and you've been cutting me off here.

00:34:56.740 Um, I, I absolutely 100% agree that, um, we, we, we, we, we, as human beings learn beauty

00:35:10.380 from the school of nature.

00:35:12.000 And, um, I, I, I, I, I would say then that, um, we can and have built, um, in ways that

00:35:27.240 work with nature, right?

00:35:28.660 Just, you know, compare the sort of super deliberately ugly 1960s brutalist messes with just, you know,

00:35:41.860 1930s, you know, uh, art deco skyscrapers like the empire state building.

00:35:49.600 I mean, that's, that is, uh, you know, you could say it's not as great as a cathedral or

00:35:56.760 a castle.

00:35:57.560 Sure.

00:35:57.800 Maybe, but it has, it has a certain something of its own or the, or the golden gate bridge.

00:36:03.200 Another great example, you know, even, even, uh, even sometimes even modern people can sort

00:36:10.240 of almost accidentally reach back and, and, and build something in an old way that works

00:36:17.700 with the land rather than against it.

00:36:20.840 Yeah.

00:36:21.580 Yeah.

00:36:22.320 Yeah.

00:36:22.760 And it's interesting.

00:36:23.480 Actually, Slavros, um, was showing me some, um, portfolio images of like, um, it was like

00:36:29.900 a Stalinist, uh, Gothic brutalism.

00:36:32.740 And so it was essentially Gothic style constructions with like concrete, very interesting.

00:36:38.560 It's kind of hauntingly beautiful.

00:36:42.340 Yeah.

00:36:42.460 I mean, uh, I think Moscow state university has that architecture and it's a rather beautiful

00:36:46.320 building.

00:36:46.640 If you look at it on the internet.

00:36:48.880 Yeah.

00:36:50.120 Yeah.

00:36:50.560 So kind of, yeah.

00:36:51.200 Getting back to, um, this, this beauty, I think it just, it just bears talking about it.

00:36:55.920 Um, you know, a little at length.

00:36:58.000 It's just, um, so yeah, and I mean, essentially that's what happens is that when, when we enter

00:37:03.780 into the splendor of nature, we commune with God and we are directly in contact with him.

00:37:09.120 And one of the things is that, well, the not like, this is the, I think doc has highlighted

00:37:13.320 a critical thing is this Cartesian separation of, um, anything spiritual or non-physical from

00:37:19.340 its physical actualization is just so destructive because this isn't, it isn't just like metaphysical

00:37:26.020 laws.

00:37:26.320 This is also even, um, people begin to see this for anything that doesn't have a quantifiable

00:37:31.440 essence.

00:37:32.140 So like the natural law, um, even empirical laws like thermodynamics, these are all presumed

00:37:38.200 to operate above in, you know, you know, some sort of platonic, um, spiritual realm

00:37:44.120 that doesn't really have a lot of interaction with the physical, but this is actually not

00:37:49.520 the case that every time you see something physical, it's always pointing and interacting

00:37:54.360 directly with something spiritual.

00:37:55.920 So we get our understanding of the laws of thermodynamics by observing the natural world.

00:38:02.640 We get our understanding of natural law by observing the natural world.

00:38:07.960 Ultimately, it's the same thing as the icon by studying the logoi that point towards the

00:38:12.860 logos.

00:38:14.100 Yeah.

00:38:14.440 There's, there's one point you actually want to make as well is that scientific theories

00:38:19.040 can never be 100% correct or certain, so to speak.

00:38:23.580 There's always some room for error or some room for things you haven't quite covered.

00:38:29.640 And that is kind of the nature of the icon.

00:38:31.540 I mean, the icon isn't the essence itself.

00:38:33.480 The icon is like a wind of toots.

00:38:35.980 So if we take the scientific paper again, that scientific paper isn't the essence of the

00:38:41.040 truth.

00:38:41.360 The scientific paper is trying to point at this truth.

00:38:45.000 The scientific paper is trying to understand it, but it can never really, really grasp

00:38:50.580 it 100% because it's beyond conscious understanding itself.

00:38:56.400 If you, if you consciously understand it, then you have already limited it.

00:39:01.380 Well, yeah.

00:39:02.300 So you, you, one of the most disturbing things about modern science is that they have forgotten

00:39:08.500 this distinction entirely.

00:39:09.600 And they believe that these, you know, these, these sort of mathematical relations that we

00:39:16.200 can deduce by, by observing the image, the, the, the, the icon, the logoi, and then we

00:39:22.780 can deduce the mathematical relationships and, and construct these formulae, the, this sort

00:39:29.380 of, we, we can, we can work back and, and chart the logos.

00:39:32.620 Well, they then say, okay, well, the, the, the, the constants and, and, and, uh, in these

00:39:40.080 equations, they don't have to be these values.

00:39:42.440 They could be any value we assign them.

00:39:44.420 And, and, and sort of, they, they, they, they've created this abstract mathematical description

00:39:52.660 of the natural law.

00:39:53.500 Well, yeah, it's nominal mathematics.

00:39:55.320 Exactly.

00:39:56.660 Yeah.

00:39:57.240 And it's just, it's, it's so ridiculous because, you know, mathematics, it was always the, I 0.99

00:40:04.300 just thought I laugh about this because it's just so just pig-headedly ignorant. 0.88

00:40:09.140 And I mean, even if we go back in, in an ancient Greece, the Pythagoreans, the Pythagorean theorem 0.94

00:40:14.400 was like a cult, esoteric knowledge.

00:40:18.080 Like you had to be initiated into a secret society in order to learn those mathematical principles

00:40:23.060 because they were considered to be like direct reflections of the divine order.

00:40:30.500 That numbers had a spiritual reality that existed outside of, um, the world, in a sense,

00:40:40.000 their, their own substance.

00:40:41.360 And so people have killed each other over knowledge of the Pythagorean theorem.

00:40:46.340 And so it's just like the brass balls that these guys have to just, just to nominalize

00:40:51.200 this.

00:40:51.520 It's, uh, it's pretty incredible.

00:40:54.120 Um, but, and like the, Jay Dyer was talking about how there are examples of, um, like geometric

00:41:00.840 objects, um, that we could conceive of mathematically that before the eight of computers did not exist

00:41:07.620 in the world.

00:41:09.500 You know, like a million sided, uh, geometric forms and stuff like that.

00:41:16.340 Um, anyway, sorry, go on.

00:41:21.380 Oh, no, I was just going to agree with you.

00:41:22.980 Yeah.

00:41:23.200 There's all sorts of, of configurations that, um, you could conceive of, but without the aid

00:41:30.120 of modern manufacturing methods, you could never reproduce them, you know, in, in the

00:41:34.960 real world.

00:41:36.160 Um, uh, I, it, it, an interesting detail.

00:41:40.540 I'll leave it at that.

00:41:41.960 Yeah.

00:41:42.360 Uh, and so back to the kind of core point that I was making from the theological perspective

00:41:47.700 is that, yeah, you know, the, the, the world is a gift that God gives to us that we're supposed

00:41:55.640 to sanctify and offer back to him as a sacrifice, as prayer, in a sense.

00:42:02.240 And that's the whole purpose.

00:42:04.880 Uh, that's what it really means.

00:42:06.040 And that's why, you know, our Lord says directly that he came to save the world.

00:42:09.880 And if you're a Christian, you know, we believe that after the resurrection, like it's going

00:42:14.160 to be a physical existence.

00:42:15.600 It's going to be glorified.

00:42:16.820 So we won't have to, we're not enslaved to the laws of, of physics.

00:42:20.560 We can transcend them, but we will have physical bodies in the resurrection.

00:42:24.060 There will be a physical new heaven and a new earth that we will live on after the general 0.90

00:42:30.600 resurrection, the new Jerusalem on earth. 0.60

00:42:35.560 One thing that, that kind of just shows the, uh, the hate that, um, monetary really has

00:42:43.860 for, for nature itself is, is GMO foods, right?

00:42:48.680 Now, now that might sound like a good idea at first, but how does that actually work?

00:42:53.900 Well, if you, if you buy your seeds from Osanto, first and foremost, you need to buy new seeds

00:42:58.360 every year.

00:42:59.320 Second of all, this is what I've heard.

00:43:01.460 Uh, if you actually sow these seeds, uh, after a while, you can't really go back to normal

00:43:06.980 seeds cause, uh, something changes in the actual soil.

00:43:11.460 So you're kind of stuck with these seeds for what, at least five years or something.

00:43:16.020 Uh, and it's just absurd.

00:43:19.660 You're, you're, you're basically destroying the soil.

00:43:21.380 You're making it, warping it into this unnatural filth and you're calling it progress.

00:43:27.680 Yeah. 0.96

00:43:27.960 Progress, progress to hell.

00:43:32.680 I don't, uh, I won't pretend to be any great expert on GMOs, but I think that, uh, at the

00:43:38.040 end of the day, I mean, what this, what this reflects is just the, the modern mentality that

00:43:42.860 it, you, you take essentially the natural world that God has, yeah, precisely the natural

00:43:48.960 world that's been created and you, uh, modify it to fit your own needs.

00:43:52.380 Well, I, I, I, I want to express a little bit of caution with that in that, um, all of our

00:44:00.920 agricultural products are not what they originally were in 10,000 BC.

00:44:07.940 Uh, however, the changes in those products are the result of thousands of years of selective

00:44:14.380 breeding.

00:44:14.800 And so the common rebuttal, uh, to arguments against genetic modification is that, well,

00:44:22.560 we're just speeding up the process.

00:44:23.940 We're just going to do a, you know, a thousand years of selective reading, you know, in a few

00:44:27.720 generations.

00:44:29.740 The problem with that, from my point of view is one of trust.

00:44:33.960 And that being specifically, I don't trust Monsanto.

00:44:39.160 I don't trust these big multinational Jewish owned corporations to be doing that breeding. 1.00

00:44:46.180 There's, there's more than that even.

00:44:47.880 Precisely.

00:44:48.220 Because there's what, you, you, you, you're going to look at it like this.

00:44:50.620 I mean, selective breeding, what are you doing there?

00:44:52.700 You're taking something that's already alive, something that has been granted that life by

00:44:56.720 God, that already contains the seed of what you're trying to breed forth.

00:45:01.500 That's one thing that's perfectly fine. 1.00

00:45:03.220 I mean, only an idiot would say that that would be a bad thing. 0.95

00:45:07.300 I can't imagine how that's a bad thing, but what you're doing with, uh, GMOs is basically 1.00

00:45:12.720 you're committing violence on it.

00:45:13.880 You're bringing forth something that actually doesn't exist in that thing.

00:45:17.960 So you can take like salmon genes in, uh, cabbages and you have like cabbages who, who,

00:45:23.360 who, um, can get slightly colder.

00:45:26.860 Anyway.

00:45:27.340 I might say that that's a good thing from a purely utilitarian perspective, but that's irrelevant

00:45:31.480 because you're committing violence upon God's creation.

00:45:34.560 Anyway, yeah.

00:45:35.060 I think that this is kind of a, this kind of a tangent.

00:45:36.980 I wanted to get back to, um, one of the, just kind of finishing our, our deconstruction

00:45:42.340 here of this false narrative that's presented.

00:45:44.980 Although I heard, um, um, father Andrew Stephen Damick talk about this when he was discussing an

00:45:51.660 orthodoxy and heterodoxy, um, these, uh, streams of American Protestantism that are, um, basically

00:45:58.760 like highly messianic and chili asked, you know, all, all of these kind of, um, Schofield

00:46:02.760 Bible type evangelicals where they all have like an implicit denial of the incarnation. 1.00

00:46:08.980 Um, and what that basically means is that they all, they don't view matter as sacred.

00:46:13.860 They view matter as this, this kind of just this disposable, uh, junk that, you know, God's

00:46:19.780 going to destroy anyway when the end of the world comes.

00:46:22.100 And so we can do whatever we want with it.

00:46:23.620 You know, God gave us the oil to use for human development and wealth.

00:46:27.160 Um, and so they, in a sense, they don't, they don't fully appropriate this idea that

00:46:31.580 is at the core of the Christian mystery that God, the logos became flesh and blood.

00:46:37.780 But he became physical matter more than that.

00:46:42.760 He was crucified on the cross as physical matter.

00:46:46.000 He descended into Hades and he was resurrected in a physical body.

00:46:51.760 This is one of the reasons why when he appears to his, um, apostles, you know, Thomas sticks

00:46:56.760 his finger in his side.

00:46:58.360 He eats grilled fish because they think he's a ghost.

00:47:01.780 They think he's a shade and he's demonstrating to them that no, this is a physical body.

00:47:07.080 And more than that, he ascends into heaven in his physical body.

00:47:11.280 And the angels ascended, he sent upon the son of man.

00:47:13.920 And he reigns at the right hand of the father in glory with the physical body that the Virgin

00:47:19.800 Mary bore in her womb. 0.98

00:47:22.380 And when he comes back to earth on the white horse, he will come back with his physical

00:47:27.560 body.

00:47:28.860 And so what this demonstrates to us is that matter is not only, um, uh, this, this glorious

00:47:35.120 gift that God has given us, but it's sacred, the whole, you know, and it can become for

00:47:40.420 us as holy as God itself, analogous with God itself.

00:47:44.500 This is what the mystery of the Eucharist is about.

00:47:47.880 That the flesh and blood of the logos is continually incarnate in the holy mystery of the Eucharist.

00:47:55.620 That physical matter, bread and wine can bear divinity.

00:48:07.240 Yes.

00:48:07.780 Plus, I mean, if you look at bread and you look at wine, that's, that's kind of a symbol

00:48:11.660 of, you know, normal bread and wine.

00:48:15.400 It kind of looks like flesh.

00:48:17.200 I mean, take, take bread, you know, all the, the wheat and all that.

00:48:21.460 It's kind of like fibers, you know, and wine, it, it looks just like blood.

00:48:26.540 So, I mean, that's a interesting thing as well.

00:48:29.860 Well, anyway, but yeah, and I wanted to just make that point that this is the reason why

00:48:34.480 as, as Christians, um, you know, as, as traditional apostolic Christians, we have to understand the

00:48:42.620 mystery of the incarnation.

00:48:43.840 And in light of this, you know, we commit grievous, grievous violence and sin against, uh, the

00:48:52.520 logos against God and he, the reflection of him in his creation.

00:48:57.280 If we have this kind of disgusting, exploitative view of nature.

00:49:01.000 And so that's the, the problem with these, you know, these streams of burger Protestantism 0.96

00:49:05.100 is that this is precisely what they advocate and what they believe.

00:49:07.840 And this is, I think all ultimately we're kind of the core of this, uh, this, this stream

00:49:14.840 of thought comes from in, um, you know, kind of mainstream conservativism.

00:49:20.280 You know, you know, this is just a, you know, it's just a disgusting, uh, disgusting idea.

00:49:26.800 Doc, I'm curious for your perspective on this, uh, this topic. 0.80

00:49:31.100 Uh, low church Protestantism.

00:49:33.580 Um, I mean, just, just why, why?

00:49:41.140 Yeah, I certainly understand.

00:49:42.960 So let's see.

00:49:44.780 Well, we're coming up on a break so we can discuss a few more, uh, topics before we, before

00:49:50.700 we finish.

00:49:51.240 I guess the, the thing to talk about would be that the natural world, uh, the natural

00:49:56.280 environment is our heritage.

00:49:59.340 Uh, it's, it's not ours to possess when we die, it will go on to the next generation 0.93

00:50:06.680 of people and we receive it from our ancestors.

00:50:10.560 And so, you know, we talked in the beginning about our, our patriarch Adam, whom ultimately

00:50:16.320 the entirety of humanity receives this creation from, um, whom God created it for in a sense,

00:50:21.760 um, who he created to rule over it.

00:50:27.740 But, you know, we as individuals, you know, in our land, in our, the, the geographical area

00:50:32.920 of our nation, right?

00:50:34.500 This is, this is our common, our property that we have to steward and give on to our descendants.

00:50:40.460 It's part of our inheritance.

00:50:41.600 And this is part of the grievous damage that's being done is that we're destroying the very

00:50:47.420 matter upon which our nations, our countries are built and more, we're giving it away to

00:50:54.980 other people.

00:50:58.380 Well, yeah, I mean, this, this, this right here, this is a pure product of the, the alienism,

00:51:06.580 the individualism of, uh, of, of this modern era.

00:51:12.580 And especially in burger land, especially in these, these, this United States, uh, we're

00:51:18.880 all aliens to each other.

00:51:20.020 We're aliens to our family.

00:51:21.520 We're aliens to our children.

00:51:23.380 We have no expectation to receive an inheritance or to pass on inheritance.

00:51:28.540 Yeah.

00:51:28.980 You know, we're, we're all ultimately on our own to sink or swim in this classical liberal

00:51:34.560 hell hole.

00:51:35.820 Yeah.

00:51:36.640 Dude, let me, let me tell you about something that's pretty funny with the Swedish inheritance

00:51:40.680 laws.

00:51:41.000 You can't write in your Testament that you're, you're, you're giving away more than 50% of

00:51:46.500 what you own.

00:51:47.240 So what this means, if you actually have two children, then, uh, unless they actually agree,

00:51:52.320 you can't really give your house over to one of them.

00:51:56.580 It's, it's kind of forced to be sold.

00:51:58.740 So you mean you can't even pass anything on purely legally.

00:52:03.440 It's just absurd.

00:52:04.520 You don't really have power of your own property.

00:52:06.860 Plus until recently, maybe they actually go to the back.

00:52:10.220 We had like inheritance tax.

00:52:11.820 You actually have to tax like, I don't know, a couple of percentages or maybe 10 on that

00:52:17.380 which you inherit.

00:52:18.180 So let's say you actually inherit a house that's maybe worth a million kroner.

00:52:22.800 Then you suddenly have to pay a hundred thousand kroner to actually keep this house.

00:52:26.160 Otherwise sell it.

00:52:27.180 It's, it's absurd, really.

00:52:30.340 I mean, land and property and something that's actually nailed down, so to speak, something

00:52:38.020 that's just not loose shekels.

00:52:40.720 That's not liquid currency.

00:52:42.320 Yeah, exactly.

00:52:42.860 Not, not liquid currency.

00:52:44.480 Um, that's just being destroyed.

00:52:48.460 It's being dissolved.

00:52:49.320 It's, it's absurd.

00:52:50.940 I mean, even Spengler, and I talk about Spengler a lot, but it's a little gold mine.

00:52:54.800 He, he talked about this as well, that, that, that's, as the, the, the high culture progresses,

00:53:00.480 you, you get more and more focused on the, the liquid currency.

00:53:04.320 I mean, what is liquid currency?

00:53:05.820 It's power.

00:53:07.020 It's power you can choose to invest in basically whatever you want, but it's, it's something

00:53:13.220 dead about it, right?

00:53:14.900 You don't really have the same connection to a shekel as you have to, well, no, I think 1.00

00:53:19.480 this is a very interesting point because even our conception of what liquid currency is has

00:53:25.340 completely, uh, degenerated.

00:53:27.300 If you look at the elder Futhark runes, the rune for currency, for mobile wealth, what we

00:53:33.460 liquid currency is the oryx.

00:53:35.440 It's cattle, and in the classical world, especially in Aryan, the Aryan world, ancient 1.00

00:53:41.800 Aryan world, your cattle were the measure of your wealth, your liquid wealth, and so all 1.00

00:53:49.880 of your liquid wealth was real capital in a true sense.

00:53:54.820 It was productive, real capital, living and breathing.

00:54:00.960 That's, that's an important point.

00:54:02.860 Um, we, we, we suffer under this delusion, we moderns, that money, that, um, that trade

00:54:10.720 tokens, which is what money is, are, um, are wealth in themselves.

00:54:16.500 And that is a fiction.

00:54:18.160 That is entirely fictional.

00:54:20.180 Wealth, uh, just etymology, quick etymology time, children.

00:54:24.400 Wealth comes from wheel, and wheel is old English for good, right?

00:54:30.520 And, and what is a good?

00:54:32.240 A good is something, is physical capital, basically.

00:54:36.640 It's, it's, it's, it's food, it's shelter, it's tools, it's, it's economic goods.

00:54:42.880 The things that you want, that, that's why you need the money for, is to get the goods.

00:54:47.720 Yeah, ultimately, I mean, currency is supposed to stand in for labor, but that's the thing

00:54:53.720 is, is it's not labor in and of itself.

00:54:56.360 And this is what separates this, and here's the, the, the joke, here's the joke.

00:55:01.000 Our labor, like, our currency is not even real, um, labor tokens.

00:55:05.020 It's debt-based.

00:55:06.160 It's usurious currency.

00:55:07.780 Yeah.

00:55:08.040 And, I mean, just, just take the concept that if you're going to actually get a house

00:55:14.540 and just not some, uh, rat-cage rental apartment, um, that probably costs, like, in certain Canadian

00:55:22.080 cities a lot of money, I've heard that, uh, then you literally have to, to take loans for

00:55:27.540 it.

00:55:27.680 You have to take loans for it.

00:55:28.640 I mean, you can't actually buy a house for, for money, unless you're super rich.

00:55:33.920 I mean, you have to take a mortgage.

00:55:35.380 Well, I mean, yeah, think about that on the American, on the American continent.

00:55:38.300 So you literally enslaved them to the usury.

00:55:39.920 Yeah, precisely.

00:55:40.900 Think about this in the North American continent.

00:55:42.760 Three generations ago, you could work, you know, it was not uncommon for people to work

00:55:48.020 for two years and then put half their mortgage down on their house.

00:55:52.840 Really?

00:55:53.520 Yeah, it was not uncommon.

00:55:54.820 I mean, because houses cost, you know, less than $10,000 in most instances for a, for a

00:56:01.400 regular, um, two, three bedroom house.

00:56:03.480 It was not uncommon at all.

00:56:06.300 Um, and that's what a lot of young couples would do is they would get married and both

00:56:09.760 the husband and the wife would work for a couple of years until they had the money to

00:56:13.000 buy their own house and then they would start a family.

00:56:16.820 And so, but that's the thing is now we live in this, this age with kids of inflated housing

00:56:20.880 is, you know, I mean, in major Canadian metropolitan areas, it's, it's, it's crazy.

00:56:28.280 I mean, it's just, it's, you know, to get a, you know, uh, a three bedroom household,

00:56:34.100 you know, in a semi-decent bourgeois, like not even bourgeois, but semi-decent kind of

00:56:39.740 middle-class area of a major Canadian city, it's going to cost you $500,000 Canadian minimum.

00:56:46.180 Yeah.

00:56:46.360 That's enough for a small house here.

00:56:48.580 Right.

00:56:49.260 I mean, in, in Vancouver, it's, that's going to cost you, I mean, it depends what area you're

00:56:53.740 in, that's going to cost $750,000, $800,000.

00:56:58.780 So if you're a young couple and you want to start up your, you want to start up a household

00:57:02.280 living in one of these areas, you have to go into massive debt.

00:57:05.640 I mean, if you can even get the credit from the bank.

00:57:08.940 And anyway, this is an aside, but it all ties into this.

00:57:11.200 So back to this idea of, of liquid wealth, it's like, yeah.

00:57:14.320 And so the environment is, you know, this is the, this is the productive capital.

00:57:19.340 All of our productive capital ultimately is based on the life that is inherent in

00:57:23.400 creation, whether it's like natural, um, natural, um, inorganic resources or, but fundamentally

00:57:32.520 it's the organic wealth that we have from the land, uh, agricultural wealth, you know,

00:57:37.460 livestock.

00:57:38.580 Look, look what's happening right now.

00:57:40.180 I read this a while ago.

00:57:41.260 So take it with a grain of salt.

00:57:42.820 Perhaps it's changed.

00:57:43.460 Perhaps it's not the best source, but whatever.

00:57:45.040 I've heard that, uh, actual, what's it called?

00:57:48.660 Artificial fertilizers will actually, um, it won't be as much on the market because the

00:57:55.800 minerals actually starting to dry up.

00:57:58.880 So that means we won't be as productive.

00:58:02.260 And, and the thing is we, we got used to having this amount of population globally, not, not

00:58:07.920 in white countries, but globally, we are getting used to this high population. 0.87

00:58:11.420 So what will happen when, for example, fertilizers don't work as well, or when the oil gets, uh,

00:58:16.240 gets more expensive or something like that?

00:58:18.380 Well, it will be really hard times.

00:58:20.580 Um, yeah, it's kind of like AIDS vaccines, right?

00:58:24.940 I mean, the, the, the, the AIDS just keep mutating, mutating, mutating things.

00:58:28.220 So it's like survival of the virus that's on, on, on track, on track.

00:58:31.740 So it's doing like millions of years of evolutions, just a few years.

00:58:35.280 So it gets this soup AIDS virus and it kills everyone because we finally fall off the tiger 0.99

00:58:40.360 of scientism.

00:58:42.500 Um, and God finally gets his, uh, revenge.

00:58:46.320 Um, anyway.

00:58:49.200 Yeah.

00:58:50.580 Doc, are there any, uh, comments you'd like to make before we go to the break?

00:58:54.280 Oh, well, uh, just, just to, to, to, to kind of tie in some, some of the, um, uh, previous

00:59:01.220 comments, uh, there is no doubt in my mind that this massive industrialized agriculture that

00:59:08.780 has done so much damage to family structures and, um, and, and, and property ownership in, in

00:59:17.520 most, um, um, first world and second world countries, um, is itself doing immense damage to the productive

00:59:26.880 capacity of the land itself.

00:59:28.860 Um, um, um, the loss of topsoil, um, the, the, the, the most extreme and long-term and most dangerous

00:59:35.500 environmental damage that we can be concerned about, um, um, the loss of topsoil, the building

00:59:41.640 over of prime land by these sprawling cities, um, uh, sort of the buildup of toxicity in the

00:59:49.860 soil due to artificial fertilizers and pesticides.

00:59:53.320 Yeah.

00:59:53.460 The pollution of our watersheds.

00:59:55.280 Yes.

00:59:55.760 Watershed pollution.

00:59:56.700 Um, the die off in bees, colony collapse disorder.

01:00:00.020 We still understand what that is.

01:00:01.780 Uh, and that, you know, um, well, I mean, I've talked to, yeah, and I've talked to, um,

01:00:07.500 beekeepers, apiarists about this, and most of them believe that it's the by-product of,

01:00:12.180 um, pesticides, artificial pesticides used in agriculture.

01:00:17.320 Um, they, so in fact, they blame Monsanto quite squarely because most people don't really

01:00:21.540 know this, but the job of a beekeeper aside from honey is he takes his bees to pollen,

01:00:26.680 pollinate crops.

01:00:29.000 And so in major, um, agricultural areas, beekeepers, they put their bees in the back of the truck

01:00:32.920 and they'll go to a greenhouse and let their bees go for a couple of hours and it will pollinate

01:00:37.060 all of the, the, uh, the horticultural products within the, within the area or into fields

01:00:43.540 and things like this.

01:00:44.560 It's actually quite interesting because you can get different kind of flavors of honey

01:00:47.500 depending on what the, uh, plant composition of what the bees have been pollinating because

01:00:53.460 there's like different sugars.

01:00:54.820 Most people don't actually know this just to get to the honey autism is that there's up

01:00:58.220 to like 20 or 30 types of different sugars in honey itself, uh, because of the variety

01:01:04.860 of plants that they extracted from.

01:01:07.280 Anyway, so it's the important thing.

01:01:08.580 I mean, these are a critical cornerstone of our, uh, agricultural and, uh, ecosystem viability.

01:01:13.240 So, yeah, I mean, um, another thing I've heard is that you can't really clean, uh, medicines

01:01:18.880 from water supply.

01:01:20.400 So you have tons of, uh, birth control pills.

01:01:23.100 Oh, this is a huge, I mean, this is a huge issue.

01:01:25.760 Basically ruining the drink water.

01:01:27.040 Oh, absolutely. 0.94

01:01:27.860 I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if this literally turns the frogs gay or something. 1.00

01:01:34.140 Well, certainly it does, you know, and I mean, the thing is, um, I can tell you only about

01:01:38.940 my own city's municipal water filtration system.

01:01:41.560 So I live in a city where, you know, we always get, we have the safest drinking water in the

01:01:46.500 world.

01:01:47.720 That's what they always are saying.

01:01:49.460 What that means when they say the safest drinking water in the world is they mean that

01:01:53.420 in our city, the fewest number of people per year get sick or die directly because of

01:01:58.800 infected drinking water.

01:02:01.060 Now, what they do in order to purify this drinking water is they drop, uh, chloramine

01:02:06.420 in it, which is essentially, um, a cross between ammonia and chlorine and they jump, dump huge

01:02:12.580 amounts of this into the water.

01:02:15.260 Um, and this destroys, just absolutely renders dead, you know, any bacterial or viral life.

01:02:21.740 Now, one of the things, but the issue is that they take half of the water fresh from

01:02:27.340 the local river.

01:02:29.180 Now that this doesn't even begin to address, you know, the pollutants that are in the local

01:02:32.800 river in terms of, uh, just, you know, human waste in terms of, um, the, the downstream

01:02:38.460 effects of mining, right?

01:02:40.120 There are many palladium mines up river, um, copper mines, heavy industry.

01:02:44.120 This doesn't even begin to talk about, um, you know, the different chemical compositions.

01:02:48.240 They do half of that, but more than that, half of it is retreated wastewater.

01:02:52.520 So all of the female birth control hormone, all of the paint and the, and the pesticide 0.99

01:03:00.260 and the fertilizer, the salt that gets washed into the sewer, half of our drinking water 1.00

01:03:06.580 has all of this shit in it. 0.99

01:03:08.440 And they don't do anything to filter it out. 1.00

01:03:10.700 They put it through macro, they put it through one big macro filter and one, you know, big

01:03:15.300 micro filter that, you know, takes out like the silt, but it doesn't, it doesn't take out,

01:03:21.680 uh, you know, it doesn't, doesn't take out the, the small chemical compounds.

01:03:26.060 You know, so, I mean, I just use this as a, as an example.

01:03:28.640 It's just that, you know, our watersheds are being horribly destroyed.

01:03:32.520 And I mean, especially in the Southwestern United States, like there are water courts for

01:03:36.020 a reason, water is an incredibly precious resource and we're, we're literally, uh, we're

01:03:42.200 pissing in it.

01:03:42.780 We're poisoning it.

01:03:43.400 I mean, that's not even to begin to speak of the poisoning of our oceans, you know, huge

01:03:49.360 levels of mercury that are for heavy metals.

01:03:52.080 You know, you, you, you hear these reports, these, these, um, like plastic islands, these

01:03:57.020 trash islands in the middle of the Pacific ocean.

01:03:59.740 You can go look that up, you know, dozens of kilometers wide. 0.90

01:04:03.680 This is the, the fruit of industrial capitalism.

01:04:11.600 Observe and be amazed. 0.54

01:04:15.280 We're turning the whole planet into a giant, uh, giant garbage dump. 0.99

01:04:21.480 And all of this so we can have cheap plastic crap made in China. 1.00

01:04:25.600 Yeah, exactly. 0.98

01:04:26.720 I hope we all are happy. 1.00

01:04:27.500 Cheap plastic crap made in China. 1.00

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01:08:56.240 concept that your environment your land shapes your people um because it is it's um empirically

01:09:06.020 demonstrable it's empirically quite correct i mean because your environment determines your

01:09:10.260 mode of economic subsistence um and it by extension it determines your lifestyle it

01:09:17.020 determines your um your your rituals like for instance there's a huge difference uh in the

01:09:23.160 seasons between living at the equator and living in northern europe they're much more dramatic

01:09:27.900 and so you have a completely different view of the world depending if you live in one place or

01:09:32.600 the other and the culture is shaped completely differently and so with uh there's an inextricable

01:09:41.540 inextricable link between blood and soil ultimately our people's culture our heritage our civilization

01:09:49.840 our even our national character the traits that we pass on to our descendants and i mean this is

01:09:56.340 you know if you go in for darwinism this is part of natural selection is those traits that perform well

01:10:02.980 in that environment will naturally be selected for if you buy into that and so the the continents of

01:10:14.920 our natural environment that we've come from is incredibly important to determining um you know

01:10:21.820 how we're going to be in the future and as part of our heritage that if we destroy we are destroying

01:10:28.160 not only that which our ancestors has passed on to us but a huge part of what made them them

01:10:34.840 yes exactly um there's one thing i um don't really follow within and that's that the environment itself

01:10:47.180 is the thing that shapes people like like the the long winters in scandinavia is the the thing that

01:10:53.200 shapes scandinavians i think it's slightly different i think that whatever is actually making it so that

01:11:00.260 the world that is the world that is the icon actually has different climates in different areas

01:11:05.460 itself actually also manifests in the different cultures the different customs the different

01:11:14.420 worldviews that the worldviews isn't a direct result of just the natural

01:11:24.260 uh causes that makes sense not the empirical reality but something else behind it some some

01:11:31.500 spiritual reality behind it if that makes sense i think so do you think you could go into a little

01:11:37.880 bit more depth sorry i'm not as good with verses i like to be especially not now when i'm trying to

01:11:44.040 stop with caffeine but the point is i mean take take darwinism for example um you could say that we all

01:11:52.620 evolve because the the most adaptable survives but what it's really all about i think it's it's

01:12:00.180 we're evolving because we are actually becoming something we're becoming something more perfect ideally

01:12:09.580 we are actually manifesting whatever is actually making us uh white for example i mean we're white

01:12:20.020 because we're manifesting that which actually make us white in the natural worlds in our genes that we

01:12:28.760 later um give forward to our descendants if that makes sense i mean i think i think i get what you're

01:12:37.300 getting at getting at um kind of getting back i wanted to talk a little bit more about the the

01:12:44.600 kind of um how how our environment shapes our culture i mean if we just take like on a very basic

01:12:52.280 level like agriculture um you know civilizations that practice uh agriculture are primarily agrarian

01:13:00.720 are radically different than those who are like hunter gatherers or uh you know nomadic shepherds

01:13:06.880 or um you know who these sort of things and so it like for instance just in terms of um like the

01:13:15.020 lifestyle of most people well most people earn their subsistence from hard labor tilling the ground

01:13:20.360 there are periods of work and there are long periods of rest uh there's a very strict delineation between

01:13:27.260 um day and night between the different seasons there's sowing time there's growing time there's harvest time

01:13:35.100 and so i think like all of these these things you know even more than our social structures are

01:13:41.120 built like uh there's a there's a theory that even says that the that's that governing systems are

01:13:45.900 essentially built up around um the securing of um arable land and agricultural surplus so one of the

01:13:54.140 ideas is that in in places like egypt or in china there is a very limited but incredibly fertile

01:14:00.020 area in those countries where one can effectively grow crops so in china that's the um that it's the

01:14:08.900 the uh the yellow river river delta it's the right in the center of the country where the vast majority

01:14:15.480 of the agriculture is done and in the in egypt it's the nile river delta and that this theory posits

01:14:21.040 that the reason why those countries have the tendency towards kind of like um you know autocratic god

01:14:26.400 emperor um despotism is because in order for the country to maintain um economic um food liquidity

01:14:36.420 essentially for them to everybody to get fed is you need very very tight control over the arable land

01:14:41.380 you can't have social unrest but this is radically different from a european setting you know let's

01:14:46.880 like take let's take ukraine where the ukraine soil is so fertile that it could grow enough food to

01:14:52.980 feed the entire world or the american midwest or or or central and northern europe where anybody can

01:15:00.280 have their own parcel of land and the the soil is fertile enough that anybody can freehold farm and

01:15:05.720 support themselves they don't need to be beholden to anybody else and crop failures are much less

01:15:11.280 devastating because there's more diversity in uh and dispersion in terms of uh agricultural

01:15:17.860 population crop type etc and so these produce radically different modes of social organization

01:15:26.620 and of governance of self-understanding you know and so i think that we we have to what we have to

01:15:33.020 just firmly implant in our minds is that this is all something that comes from the harmony of the

01:15:40.120 natural environment that if we allow it to be destroyed we lose those conditions those environments

01:15:48.140 which produced our ancestors and their way of life which we revere and hold in honor that ultimately make

01:15:53.700 us who we are we're not just products of our environment of course there's also innate qualities to us

01:15:59.520 genetic spiritual etc but environment plays a very big role

01:16:03.800 yeah i mean uh let's look at how um how people become now when they're all uh huddled into the big

01:16:14.120 cities you know you become empty and instead of the church instead of the organic culture you have

01:16:20.820 this retarded pop culture which we talked about last episode you know it just poisons the mind 1.00

01:16:25.100 poisons the people and in a way pop culture is to culture what this this mass industries for

01:16:32.620 the environment it just destroys it's the poison it's it's plastic

01:16:37.640 virtual in a way virtual exactly that's the word i was looking for exactly thank you

01:16:46.580 virtual and it's just artificial it's it's not really as real

01:16:53.560 yeah yeah anyway i think the the worst thing that's happened

01:17:01.120 uh one of the worst things that's ever happened i think really is that we we don't really have

01:17:07.540 these small uh farmsteads anymore we don't even have homesteads we don't really have anything

01:17:14.360 about it anymore and if you want to have those well you better pay up because those are quite expensive

01:17:19.440 yeah yeah uh the the land speculation that's been driven by again these large industrialized uh mechanized

01:17:30.620 um uh corporate farms has just basically priced um uh families uh smallholders out of out of the land

01:17:44.100 market essentially oh precisely and we'll think about this whereas in um like an aggregarian society

01:17:50.780 is profoundly democratic uh and i mean that in the real true sense of the term because every household

01:17:56.440 is capable of a much higher degree of self-sustenance and independence of autarchy

01:18:01.440 than in other societies especially urban societies and this was the understanding and all throughout the

01:18:08.120 medieval world that the lowest class of people was actually skilled laborers because they were not

01:18:14.300 capable of producing their own food supply to own land and to grow crops in those land meant that you

01:18:19.900 could feed yourself worst comes to worst exactly and this is where like sovereignty and power comes from

01:18:26.720 this is where the whole idea of the yeoman's republic comes from is that you know it's the the free

01:18:31.920 households of people who farm this land and the liberty that that affords them that they can be

01:18:37.060 established on their own estate and govern their own um domain this is a profoundly uh western

01:18:44.360 european germanic idea and it all ties together our our tradition of political liberty of um you know

01:18:52.100 feudal sovereignty of freedom all of this is intimately tied towards um towards agriculture yeah plus i mean

01:19:01.640 you basically cut off from the the actual land i mean you're cut off from everything organic

01:19:05.900 i've heard stories of people who've lived in stockholm and one day i've seen like an apple tree for the

01:19:12.400 first time they they go to their mother and i say hey mother they are placing apples in the tree

01:19:18.800 in this horrified voice oh they're placing apples in the tree i mean it's absurd and and people become so

01:19:26.920 detached from everything that's not organic that they become these artificial people with these artificial

01:19:33.760 ideas and and they they they they are essentially uh dependent on the current system to survive

01:19:40.140 it's i mean it's kind of like the matrix really well we talked about this a couple of um a couple of

01:19:46.560 episodes ago where we were i was saying that essentially what's going on with the the mass

01:19:50.980 industrialization of farming is its move from this profoundly um distributivist system of

01:19:58.420 food growing to essentially oligarchical control over um productive food capital yeah where you're

01:20:07.560 getting a greater and greater amalgamation of i mean of land in these few corporations with greater and

01:20:12.500 greater degrees of mechanization this means that it takes erotic hold on hans let me make this point

01:20:16.980 this means that it takes a erotically less lower number of people in order to produce

01:20:21.700 radically exponential amounts of food so ultimately what as i was saying before what these elites want is

01:20:27.740 they basically they want to drive everybody out of the country and they want to have it be done

01:20:31.380 entirely by you know uh robotic ai that's that's their ultimate goal of industrial capitalism is you 0.83

01:20:38.460 would have you know three guys who watch uh 10 000 acres of uh of arable land that's manned entirely by

01:20:46.760 you know automatic uh uh you know uh internet controlled robots basically if you if you read man and

01:20:55.140 techniques again by spangler i'm talking about a lot about spangler this episode but he he made a

01:21:00.540 point that these people the the engineers so to speak they will want to dominate everything there was

01:21:06.880 before made by by actual labor with a machine now this is kind of like their goal in life they want

01:21:13.280 to mechanize everything there because that gives them some sort of fulfillment progress right they are

01:21:18.680 making progress in that they're mechanizing everything now what does that make with everyone else well

01:21:24.580 spangler said that basically everyone else will turn suicidal and that would be it basically uh

01:21:29.780 unless you actually reverse this and get back to the more agrarian society you become the fellow 0.56

01:21:35.980 people so to speak well yeah so what do you do when you quote unquote liberate the people from work

01:21:44.120 what you remove their vocation right yeah you give them neat books so they start making podcasts

01:21:50.400 well just just that um i mean you can see the alienation the on we already in in in in our comfortable

01:22:07.600 urban even the urban poor right they don't have any real wealth but they're comfortable because the

01:22:18.040 the the the economic surplus that is extracted from productive people and given to them

01:22:24.560 uh but what meaning do they have in their lives ultimately they have only self-destructive

01:22:31.520 suicidal pursuits they have sex drugs and rock and roll i guess exactly that's that's the opiate of 0.99

01:22:38.840 the the masses now so to speak it's it's not religion it's literally this this retarded uh slowly 0.99

01:22:45.360 committing suicide and and that's the thing right if you abandon god then basically everything you have 0.98

01:22:51.940 to choose between is different forms of suicide of course you can take the news and end it quickly

01:22:57.340 or you can you know burn up in hedonism and have fun doing it

01:23:01.780 i guess maybe uh do you guys know uh understand what when i say vocation uh that i mean like um

01:23:11.020 something more than career i guess you know yeah exactly i mean their their goal in life almost kind

01:23:15.900 of like like the telos i mean for example being a priest as a vocation it's another vocation to to

01:23:21.380 be an officer because the the essence so to speak that are behind these different professions

01:23:26.760 somehow relates to the actual human being well yeah i mean there's even there's a deeper concept

01:23:33.320 going out at work here than that it's the the purpose of vocation comes from vocatio which means

01:23:39.240 to call and so for christians our understanding is that god has made us

01:23:44.680 fit to do a certain vocation and the purpose of a vocation is to save your soul now this is uh

01:23:54.500 and so you know the priesthood is a type of vocation monasticism is a type of vocation

01:24:00.740 motherhood or fatherhood are types of vocation because all of these have at the end the salvation

01:24:06.980 of one's soul saint paul says this explicitly that mother's souls will be that women's souls will be

01:24:11.940 saved through motherhood yes exactly um and so the thing is is that like labor honest labor is a means

01:24:21.000 of saving your soul if you do it in the holy spirit if you do it for god if you do it to contribute to

01:24:26.340 the logos and out of love for god and for your neighbor it is a proeminently virtuous activity

01:24:32.200 here's a an interesting thought that just struck me um eve was made from a rip from adam writes and

01:24:40.380 we can see that men actually have more vocations than women i mean you could basically be be well

01:24:47.420 almost everything as men for women it's basically being a nun or being a mother with a few exceptions

01:24:53.040 i suppose but it would kind of make sense because if if woman is made from the rib then they are made 0.99

01:25:00.620 from just one part of the body and that kind of becoming a whole body later on but the point is

01:25:07.480 perhaps that somehow relates to it i don't know well i mean i think the thing is is that women have the 1.00

01:25:13.940 most important vocation um because without the vocation of motherhood there can be no vocation

01:25:19.440 there can be no there could be no salvation of the soul to begin with our lord was born of a woman 1.00

01:25:23.640 and if our lord had not been made man then we would not be saved as men because anything that's not

01:25:29.040 assumed by god is not saved and so if the virgin mary had not agreed when the angel gabriel came to her

01:25:34.960 and agreed to bear the logos in the flesh then we would not have been saved um and so this is this

01:25:43.360 is you know critical understand i mean and this is the this is one of the things that makes me then

01:25:49.020 the angriest is the denigration of motherhood that we see by the feminists and by the leftists where

01:25:55.060 they take the most important thing in the world uh that naturally that that human beings can do and

01:26:02.440 they uh they uh they drag it through the dirt they uh talk about infants in the womb as parasites they

01:26:11.260 talk about women as um as intubators as uh machines for the production of economic units 1.00

01:26:20.020 rather than as bearers of one of the holy mysteries of god the creation of life the proliferation of the

01:26:28.260 species the very icons of creation themselves who bear the next generation in their wombs and deliver 1.00

01:26:39.920 them to us and um you know i think that it is a profoundly blasphemous against the dignity of uh human

01:26:49.760 beings at large and women particularly um yeah i mean they're trying to make it in something that

01:26:56.020 you're not and they are like chased with these illusions oh i want to have a career oh i want

01:27:01.340 this oh i want that but they're forgetting most important thing and that's really really sad

01:27:05.740 and why do i do this i mean the thing that happens if you have women that are supposed to work just as 1.00

01:27:13.440 much as men and all this stuff what happens then is that you you can lower wages as well right so that

01:27:20.060 means that you're kind of forced to have two people working if you want to have the same standard as

01:27:24.320 people have before when only the man uh usually worked uh for wage well yeah this is this is part

01:27:31.800 of it but that's that's for a different uh show topic i suppose at some point we will cover feminism

01:27:37.340 although it's such a such a tired topic well let's talk about it actually if i may just add um

01:27:45.520 the the the the shrieking herod and feminists call us misogynists for you know expecting women to be 1.00

01:27:53.880 women uh basically you know saying no no no no you know motherhood is it is yours your your sacred 0.86

01:28:02.060 duty and your joy and that's misogynistic and so of course the the the response then by the right is to

01:28:12.920 say okay fine yeah we're misogynistic whatever uh the danger there is that that the the the joke

01:28:21.900 can the larp can sometimes the meme can become reality yeah and and and so i mean i i i'm i'm

01:28:29.980 somewhat guilty of this myself of of you know um uh not giving um women perhaps as much respect as

01:28:40.040 as as a a the vocation of motherhood deserves um uh but you know modern women themselves don't 1.00

01:28:51.320 respect the vocation of motherhood so well yeah they're shameless yeah well i mean you know what

01:28:56.640 i mean yeah this is uh important maybe a topic for the other day i mean you can just talk about

01:29:02.340 this quickly and then move on it's just that i mean in european civilization um women have never 0.90

01:29:08.600 been treated as chattel property um it's not to say like certainly it's not to say that you know

01:29:16.780 that they were sovereign or anything like this um but like if we look at germanic society you know

01:29:23.020 uh the dowry that the woman's father gave to the the the wife in marriage that was her property

01:29:28.540 um and if there was a divorce she would keep the dowry 1.00

01:29:32.800 and so you know this is uh the there's the there's the meme of like that we you know white

01:29:40.000 sharia where we need to just treat women like our our property like chattel this is an alien idea to

01:29:46.040 the european psyche well i mean i think white sharia is a bit of a meme isn't it well i mean people

01:29:52.600 worship at the altar of meme gods well they sacrificed the meme gods that's true that's

01:29:58.640 true i mean what you were talking about before like that i mean you you uh perhaps you're on

01:30:04.260 perfect and all that stuff i mean basically women basically i think women basically see motherhood

01:30:10.100 as more important as well and that's because they actually don't have that vocation i mean you don't

01:30:14.420 have the vocation of being a mother doc for even obvious reasons so i mean i don't think you

01:30:18.780 actually um see it as important because of it i mean you understand it's as important but you

01:30:26.120 don't see it as important if that makes sense yeah anyway i think we need to move on so there's a

01:30:30.840 couple of different things we want to talk about before we go into caliuga news one of the things

01:30:35.880 is the like anthropogenic climate change is a distraction um you know personally i don't believe

01:30:42.280 in anthropogenic climate change um that's not really a topic for this podcast it's far beyond the

01:30:47.480 scope of what we're discussing today but i i personally i mean i think the the greatest

01:30:51.880 argument against taking it seriously is in um how it's actually played out from you know by our

01:30:58.740 enemies in terms of public policy and so our enemies propose that uh in order to combat the

01:31:04.720 menace of anthropogenic climate change caused by greenhouse gas emissions that we need to set up

01:31:09.640 essentially international control bodies to regulate the production of co2 by industry and the scheme

01:31:15.860 that they typically use for this is this cap and trade system where carbon dioxide production

01:31:22.760 is commodified and traded by corporations as a commodity despite the fact that carbon dioxide you

01:31:31.860 know is the natural product of like trees and uh or of human beings and animals and livestock and

01:31:38.320 it's fuel for trees to convert into oxygen and i mean it's just but i think it's ultimately it's

01:31:43.260 always an excuse for greater state power greater economic restriction in a in a bad sense uh and

01:31:49.420 greater uh globalist authority i mean you know agenda 21 is is common knowledge plus i mean who can

01:31:56.960 afford these uh carbon dioxide emission certificates whatever it's called it's the big companies rich

01:32:03.160 people well precisely it's not really the the normal uh you know a local town you know factory or

01:32:09.160 whatever yeah it ultimately appropriates more power to the oligarchs yeah exactly well another

01:32:14.620 interesting artifact of that is that uh it will lock third world countries out of industrialization 0.99

01:32:21.880 completely you know what what in what developing economy will be able to afford carbon permits well we can

01:32:32.500 actually we consider this carbon permit thing yeah well and i mean yeah yeah it's just just uh and i

01:32:42.240 think that we see this with you know like the pope okay and the pope talks about the christian duty to

01:32:47.480 fight climate change as if this is this is the avenue of christian environmentalism it's just it's a

01:32:53.200 load of baloney there are many many pressing serious environmental issues that as christians i mean

01:32:59.000 as europeans in general as national socialists that we have to to address and you know ultimately we're

01:33:06.640 not going to be able to address them in a systematic way until we seize control of the state apparatus

01:33:11.940 and are able to implement sane conservation policies um and actually value creation as a and in and of

01:33:20.400 itself uh but you know the the the destruction of our water supply of our watersheds of our

01:33:28.860 oceans you know the massive industrial pollution of these things of the the topsoil of arable land

01:33:35.740 of the the harmony of nature of the ability for uh organic regeneration all of this is is is being

01:33:44.140 crippled right now by our um our reckless development and the the this is uh one of the things that is that

01:33:51.700 this is not simply limited to industrial capitalism but one of the most um pernicious legacies of the

01:33:58.960 soviet union is widespread uh environmental destruction there are huge areas of the soviet union even today

01:34:07.680 or the former soviet union excuse me um that are are devastated by soviet era heavy industry yeah they 0.93

01:34:14.000 don't get they didn't give a fuck they were atheists you know they were atheist scientific materialists 0.95

01:34:19.860 you know beauty is it was a nominal thing i mean the natural world existed just to serve uh the will 0.98

01:34:27.020 of the proletariat to provide economic surplus you know and this um this is one of the areas where i

01:34:33.420 think putin can be very harshly critiqued is because he has done not done really a whole lot at all to

01:34:38.160 deal with this and the oligarchs continue to uh to deal with the environment in this way well putin is

01:34:45.700 probably loyal to putin anyway yeah yeah uh that's uh it's it's very strange how the so-called

01:34:58.940 environmental left completely ignores uh all of this this really easy to obtain history of

01:35:07.820 just environmental disaster after environmental disaster in um in in communist countries uh not

01:35:16.120 just the soviet union but uh red china as well well i mean they don't care about that i mean that's 0.54

01:35:21.320 the thing they don't care about that i mean they it's literally just where to say you know they want

01:35:27.020 to be the good kids they want to be the good guys that's everything it's all about they don't care

01:35:31.900 about why but they don't care about anything and and then they take up this anthropogenic

01:35:36.700 global climate change the the global warming thing as like their their their their cause

01:35:44.740 their reason dot but what's the worst case scenario let's let's okay granting for the sake of argument

01:35:51.660 that this is happening like your worst case scenario is a two meter rise in sea levels

01:35:56.560 like okay so so then you have to move two meters up the coast yeah like uh that that that also means

01:36:07.040 that we can now grow in in at higher latitudes the same crops so i mean net gain right i like i don't

01:36:13.720 yeah anyway i mean i think that ultimately the the issue is just to you know the biggest reason to

01:36:19.900 oppose this baloney is look at the way that our enemies uh use it to push for our ultimate um destruction

01:36:26.160 and cuckoldry and so this is the thing is that both um capitalism and communism care little for the

01:36:34.140 environment because they're fundamentally materialist ideologies they view it as a commodity to be used

01:36:39.000 for economic surplus there's no inherent value or worth to it there's no uh incarnational theology

01:36:45.840 now there's no creation ex nihilo if if you if you look at these people they are basically just

01:36:51.800 worried that environmental change will affect their commies affect their lifestyle affect all this

01:36:56.960 stuff they don't care about the actual environment well that and and that's an important principle i

01:37:02.820 think it bears repeating over and over and over again that this this i this false idea this false

01:37:11.040 dialectic that capitalism and communism are somehow opposed to each other it's just not true

01:37:19.260 right wing and left wing have nothing to do with capitalism and communism with with with private

01:37:28.400 enterprise so-called and socialist enterprise so-called like this it's it's it's fake it is a fake

01:37:36.740 distinction ultimately because you're right absolutely metaphysically communism and capitalism are the

01:37:41.940 same thing they're they're a reduction of the world to economic activity full stop full stop

01:37:49.240 and yeah so as national socialists as people who are against the modern world we reject all of

01:37:55.880 this fundamentally um this whole worldview that allows for both of these schemes has to be

01:38:01.720 broadcloth rejected uh and so we have to view the natural world as something that is sacred

01:38:10.400 and you don't even have to be a christian to think this there are many pagans pantheists even who believe

01:38:15.040 this uh even if you're you just simply believe in natural law well your natural law derives from the

01:38:20.860 natural world and so for in order for you to protect your your law giver which enables rational personal

01:38:29.040 and social governance you have to protect the environment end of all right gentlemen anything else you'd like

01:38:38.820 to discuss for this topic because we have a pretty full cali yuga news this week

01:38:43.260 i think we should go to uh cali yuga news without any further delay we shall my friend

01:38:54.080 this week we're bringing you a very special cali yuga news special race war report turk inaugural edition

01:39:02.420 as some of you may have heard tensions are heating up in europe between turkey and the european union

01:39:09.040 over a diplomatic and political row that happened between the netherlands and turkey this week we saw

01:39:15.960 turks rioting in rotterdam very poorly burning french flags before they were dispersed by dutch riot police 0.97

01:39:23.920 we saw an election where gert wilders the liberal who wants to kill muslims to protect sodomy was labeled 0.94

01:39:30.820 a fascist by erdogan uh yeah we've seen innumerable other just absurd absurd reports but truly i mean 0.97

01:39:41.140 i think the turks are um the turks are uh are building up a race war so what i'm going to do

01:39:46.260 here and i'm going to read to you from the the daily sermon this is going to kind of set the tone

01:39:49.620 from manchu anglin this is from yesterday march 17th turk minister calls for race war in europe

01:39:55.880 days after le pen claimed a race war in europe was inevitable oh not thank you for joining us

01:40:03.500 uh we're just getting into the uh cali yuga news special hello hello can you hear me we can hear 1.00

01:40:10.200 you now sadly hello fuck you hans what the fuck you bitch always like that you know we just talked 1.00

01:40:16.960 about how good it would be when dame mark i get falls into the ocean like atlantis due to climate change 1.00

01:40:24.000 we all know that's no more that god's justice has finally arrived to cleanse the filthy dames 1.00

01:40:33.120 from their filthy country and send them down to tartars once and for all where they belong 1.00

01:40:39.360 been hitting the snaps again hey sweet anyways you know i'm i'm glad to be on you know i i've been

01:40:46.640 busy i've been busy with very important things well i know i've been working on my greatest

01:40:54.040 investigation for two weeks now it's gonna be i've heard about this i mean it's it's gonna be posted

01:40:59.540 here uh you know tomorrow you know just just be be ready ladies and gentlemen um you know i'm i'm

01:41:05.560 having i'm pretty much disclosing one of my greatest investigations of 2017 this sunday

01:41:11.760 tomorrow shop you know it's gonna happen tomorrow and you know i think it's really gonna you know

01:41:17.800 shake the entire fundament of the right wing i think it's gonna blow it's gonna blow some paradigms

01:41:21.680 out of the water here it truly is it truly is and you know i'm i'm glad so what are we talking about

01:41:28.080 again the race war oh that yeah i've heard about that you heard about that one i've i've heard about

01:41:34.900 that i mean i'm pretty sure that in most cases it kind of turns into like a whole scenario of of

01:41:41.600 waiting for godot but if we are talking about the uprising race war in south africa of course i shall

01:41:48.060 raise an eyebrow we're actually talking about the turk uh the turkish foreign minister calling for a race

01:41:53.000 war in europe yeah i mean the moment that turks started spreading their cockroach like genetics all 1.00

01:42:01.280 across europe uh i think at that moment uh our declaration of existential warfare was cast

01:42:08.160 yes well truly let's read on from this daily storm article maybe we can get a little bit more framing

01:42:13.200 you know nat i called you in because you are uh the biggest expert on the race war that i know of

01:42:17.860 uh that is true i have um an expertise regarding this subject

01:42:22.720 a turkish minister has claimed quote holy wars will soon begin in europe in spite of the defeat of

01:42:31.740 far far right leader gert wilders in the netherlands elections mevlut kufu saglu turkey's foreign minister

01:42:40.480 did not welcome victory for prime minister mark reuth's center-right people's party for freedom and

01:42:46.400 democracy now that the election is over in the netherlands when you look at the many parties you see that

01:42:51.560 there is no difference between the social democrats and the fascist wielders

01:42:55.680 he said according to a translation by harriet wow all have the same mentality where will you go

01:43:03.720 where are you taking europe you have begun to collapse europe you are dragging europe into the abyss 0.70

01:43:08.120 holy wars will soon begin in europe well technically he's correct

01:43:14.600 well yeah let me let me read a few of these other let me read a few of these other things that these

01:43:20.580 turks have been talking about this week and then when we have the full picture we can uh we can

01:43:25.380 discuss this so uh from russia today turkey could send 15k refugees a month to europe to quote blow its

01:43:33.600 mind from their interior minister turkey's interior minister says ankara could send 15 000 refugees a

01:43:40.180 month to europe to blow its mind he said the bloc is playing games to prevent turkey from becoming

01:43:45.120 strong taking direct aim at germany and the netherlands i'm telling you europe do you have the courage

01:43:51.000 if you want we could open the way for 15 000 refugees that we don't send each month and blow your mind 1.00

01:43:56.560 suleiman solio said late thursday according to harriet now so that's like that's like lesson we're

01:44:05.920 taking on right so so that yeah now and let me read the third piece of this puzzle you are europe's

01:44:12.280 future erdogan says and tells turks in europe to have five kids not three president recep tayyip erdogan

01:44:20.380 on friday urged turk residents in europe to have five children telling the million strong diaspora

01:44:25.740 community you are europe's future turkey and europe are locked in a bitter spot after germany and the

01:44:32.600 netherlands blocked turkish ministers from holding rallies to campaign for a yes vote and next month's

01:44:37.680 referendum on expanding erdogan's powers erdogan agree has repeatedly accused eu states of behaving

01:44:44.780 like nazi germany over what he sees as discrimination against turks and comments that have caused outrage

01:44:50.380 across the continent you know what let's let's let's just let's just talk about the audacity of the

01:44:56.140 turk for a moment here right the turk comes from their their central nation step and they're they're

01:45:02.220 they think they're all cool they take over the visiting empire they they are muslims they they do slave 1.00

01:45:08.480 trade for for like half a millennia in in europe they're still doing it even today by the way i mean

01:45:17.440 i i saw a documentary a while about how how turks are literally kidnapping slaves uh from eastern

01:45:25.120 europe with a promise of you know good europe's in turkey and basically forced in brothels and if they 1.00

01:45:31.520 um if they don't do what's supposed to well they get beat up and all that stuff anyway and they they

01:45:37.500 have their desk to call us evil well i mean this isn't even about good and evil this is about them just

01:45:43.100 just wanting to take over at this point well i talked about it i talked about a couple of episodes

01:45:47.640 before in the sweden literally has been infiltrated by the muslim brotherhood in the green party in the

01:45:53.860 radical left party as well as all the islamic institutions in sweden and there's been cases of

01:46:00.040 where where weapons have been found in mosques so when he's saying you know there's a race war coming

01:46:06.540 he's not joking i mean something like that will probably happen and it will be due to all these

01:46:14.320 islamists muslims turks i i have a comment what what i really want you gentlemen to think about here

01:46:23.660 is the fact that the way that the governments in western europe have been handling this now i'm

01:46:28.560 referring to germany as well as sweden right now not sweden um all these european countries also

01:46:35.400 denmark has like said no we're not going to talk to the to the turks and this is because of one

01:46:41.180 simple thing the democrats like the um the politicians in our countries are now realizing 0.87

01:46:47.360 that despite the fact that they gave these brown vermin from the middle east a danish passport a 1.00

01:46:52.780 european passport they still don't kind of realize you know think of themselves as europeans they still 0.74

01:46:59.260 have like strong roots and we're talking about third generation turks we're talking about for uh

01:47:04.500 second generation turks we're talking about people have been been here for four generations

01:47:09.060 and these people still somehow don't think that they belong to our people it's almost as if man is

01:47:16.660 naturally tribal by mindset and the fact that i know that the um they want to hold elections here

01:47:23.020 is a grim reminder to our politicians that our integration and assimilation policies have all failed 0.91

01:47:29.560 because they don't fucking work it's a waste of fucking money so what we what we see now what we 0.99

01:47:35.960 see now is the fact that our politicians are defecating in their pants the parliaments all over europe 1.00

01:47:42.320 smells like feces as of right now due to the fact that they just realized that they have been wasting 0.99

01:47:47.440 billions and billions of euros on a project that cannot fucking work so now they're going into damage 0.99

01:47:56.120 control they're not even addressing the audacity of the turk maggot they're not even addressing it 1.00

01:48:02.060 because as of now as far as i'm concerned they are not addressing anything regarding the turk question

01:48:08.000 because of course let's not forget forget our bloody history between father europe and turkey i mean

01:48:14.960 1691 the battle of vienna the turkish host was at the gates of vienna and threatened to overwhelm europe

01:48:23.200 300 years ago we were in this exact same position and it was jan sobieski with his winged hussars

01:48:29.680 that ultimately turned back the turk menace and saved europe and gave us croissant and coffee yeah but 0.99

01:48:34.720 back in the day we actually had you know mad enough to humble the smelly turk now what we do we bend 1.00

01:48:41.860 though and let the turk take her for behind that's what's happening right well here one of the other 1.00

01:48:45.640 issues with this the dutch elections two two members of parliament were just elected in the netherlands who

01:48:52.140 come from a turkish party three yeah three an overtly turco islamic party and so it's called

01:49:00.120 the party is actually called denk which means think it's a minority party and the fact that there is

01:49:05.940 even such a possibility for a certain demographic group in their country to get political influence

01:49:11.780 in the nation really showcases the um colonization of western europe it really shows it so it's absurd

01:49:19.340 what we can what we can make of this is the fact that yes um the the idea that you could just integrate

01:49:28.600 them that has now officially is dead it's not working and how do our politicians deal with it you know

01:49:34.140 just try and go into damage control mode to say well we're not gonna allow the mean turk man to talk 1.00

01:49:38.960 he's not gonna talk in our country we need to deal with dual citizenship you know not realizing that 1.00

01:49:45.160 even if we said okay turk i'm gonna burn your passport they're still not gonna feel fucking 0.99

01:49:52.080 danish they're still gonna create their you know cockroach colonies within our nations they're still 1.00

01:49:56.800 gonna spread the disgusting kebab around yeah removing their past citizenship removing the dual 1.00

01:50:05.280 citizenship it's not going to deal with the problem the fact that they are here is the fucking 0.99

01:50:09.860 problem yeah fundamentally they're very uh these they're very pressing people as well that's the 0.98

01:50:15.660 thing i mean you do do do i mean even the thing that they they used to take uh you know uh slaves

01:50:21.300 back in the day that they do that even in that countries they go to i mean we all know about the 0.54

01:50:27.280 rotherham scandal no that's the shit they're doing right now and the only reason for example why we

01:50:32.480 don't see scandals like that in sweden and in like denmark and in these countries it's because 0.96

01:50:38.220 i mean we we don't really have much more police force i mean yes just the did we we know that the

01:50:45.420 rotherham thing is not even unique for rotherham it's happening all over england you know it's

01:50:50.260 happening all over europe all over europe and what's happening no one is raising a finger and when it

01:50:54.640 happens well perhaps the parents get a little bit upset yeah no but i want what i want to just bring

01:51:01.240 back to the point here is the turks are actually overtly threatening racial holy war okay i'm not

01:51:08.200 people this is a punishment people make fun of us when we talk about rahoa and there's certainly

01:51:15.880 memes about it but without back to the mysterious trademark lack of exaggeration the turks are calling

01:51:23.680 for racial holy war in europe they're threatening it they just 15 000 uh um fighting men a month

01:51:32.580 that's a declaration of warfare yeah i mean here's the thing let's there is this prophecy by a greek

01:51:42.900 elder elder paisos and he's basically saying that turkey due to their arrogance will be split up in 0.98

01:51:50.060 three four parts due to russia and nato basically saying hey turkey you need to stop this shit and 0.98

01:51:56.720 well maybe that's what we're seeing now you know the turk arrogance is getting sped on and perhaps 0.98

01:52:02.920 someone will humble the smelly turk once and for all and there's a there's a fun detail actually i 1.00

01:52:08.960 noticed in this prophecy paisos said that this will happen when the greeks set the sea border at 12

01:52:17.020 kilometers rather than six kilometers such as now and if you actually read at the golden dawn

01:52:21.880 portrait program one of the points is actually increasing the sea border to 12 kilometers

01:52:26.980 i mean i think i think in general i mean here's an interesting fact i'm not sure this has been ever

01:52:34.780 been addressed but i think it was from 1969 to 1974 the population of ethnic greeks in

01:52:46.800 in turkey kind of diminished by 20 000 within like a short six years i don't really know what the

01:52:54.340 the amount of the demographics of ethnic greeks in turkey is as of right now but something kind of

01:53:00.860 happened there in in turkey regarding the population amount of greeks in turkey and nobody has really

01:53:07.060 addressed it i mean the turks they kind of don't want to apologize for certain ethnic groups disappearing

01:53:12.460 all of a sudden but knowing the habits of the turks and the fact that they like to make certain ethnic 0.98

01:53:18.220 groups like the armenians kind of disappear you know we have to realize that these brown disgusting 1.00

01:53:24.640 maggots you know they might not want to integrate so yeah i mean what we are seeing now is the fact that 0.99

01:53:31.020 you know this this conflict this um this this cultural conflict is ethnic conflict no it's it's not

01:53:37.900 really a matter of the fact that they have their paper you know their papers no it's it's a matter

01:53:41.900 of skin tone really in this matter your skin color is your uniform and let's just say right well let me

01:53:50.420 ask you your expert opinion not dame long what do you think the likelihood of racial holy war erupting 0.98

01:53:56.380 in europe over the summer is um i think during the summer a lot of shit is going to happen 0.99

01:54:01.960 i think that um a lot of the agitations from the from the arabs you know the arrogance of the 1.00

01:54:08.400 third worlders as well as the entire political climate and the heat i think it's really going

01:54:13.860 to do something as to say i think that it's uh we might have a few barbecues around in europe this uh

01:54:19.600 this summer well it certainly will be interesting to bear it and see what happens so anyway when is the

01:54:27.420 german election six months six months six months now perfect i mean that i'm pretty sure something

01:54:36.180 would happen there because how it's looking there right now is that you you'll get someone that's 0.98

01:54:40.460 even worse than merkel you know the uh what's it called that that fat pig looking guy oh do you 0.99

01:54:46.600 talk about the jew the jew from uh the green party uh no not green party the the social democrat 0.98

01:54:52.420 guy not yeah the one that's you before yeah yeah that guy and he's like one of these people who

01:54:59.740 like shake hands with sorrows and that there's no image of that it's just absurd but he's based dude

01:55:06.620 he's gonna save europe yeah man uh this this facebook well i was just reading a story i was just reading

01:55:13.760 a story where the afd just kicked out one of its members who said that europe you know germany needs

01:55:18.280 to get over its holocaust guilt and only they well i mean this edition needs to be apparently this

01:55:24.020 should not be a surprise to anybody listening but in case there's anybody under the spell 1.00

01:55:27.540 you know these group wielders faggots these afd assholes these swedish democrats these half measure 1.00

01:55:33.500 um civic nationalists who want to stop islam to save the faggots they're part of the problem 1.00

01:55:39.480 they are so i mean all reactionaries all reactionaries are essentially all enemies of 0.99

01:55:46.060 what we are trying to obtain what we're trying to do i mean reactionaries are entrenched in the

01:55:51.940 current system and the current system is the cancer that is killing us all so when you listen to a civic

01:55:58.660 nationalist as far as i'm concerned he might as well be a social democrat because he believes in the

01:56:03.260 same filth that perpetuates a miserable situation but you know they're comfortably entrenched

01:56:09.240 with their pensions and retirement funds you know so they don't really want to it so they're

01:56:13.360 willing to sell out the entire next generation and next generation again so they can die comfortably 1.00

01:56:18.940 you know die comfortably that's really all they care about so you know we are revolutionaries 1.00

01:56:26.380 so the reactionary filth can go fuck itself there is actually tons of stories about the swedish 0.99

01:56:32.620 democracy particularly here they i don't know really where to start i mean a while ago they 0.99

01:56:39.080 kicked out people in the party who actually weren't even in the party uh that was a fun detail they

01:56:46.220 have also kicked up people for the most menial things like linking to fria tider now fria tider

01:56:52.560 isn't even like one of these uh you know uh national socialist uh web page or something like that they're

01:57:00.260 they're they are you know pretty swedish democratic they're not really very harsh but that was apparently

01:57:07.180 too harsh even for them because they want to cuddle up with a moderate party the same party that for

01:57:12.080 eight years turned sweden into the filth that's become now the moderate party has single-handedly

01:57:19.920 destroyed this nation to the degree that we're the laughing stock of the entire world now

01:57:26.740 it's absurd but let's team up with these people and let's let's let's let's uh let's forget everything

01:57:35.960 like that right yeah good also we should we should decrease uh immigration levels to the levels of 0.58

01:57:43.380 denmark that will really save sweden let's not let's not send people back that would be rude that

01:57:49.400 wouldn't be polite to it let's just decrease their intake of sludge just slightly well well you know

01:57:57.020 you know it's all gonna work out in the end i mean it's not like they're they reproduce you know by

01:58:02.560 triple the standards of normal you know ethnic danes and swedes it's not like that my friend i mean 1.00

01:58:07.740 what is that oh sterilization no no no no no no never never we're not sterilized i mean if we would

01:58:15.700 actually have standards if we would have god and everything which that entails you know we wouldn't 0.99

01:58:22.080 have this shit i'm confident that this is a punishment this is chastisement for all the filth 0.99

01:58:26.860 we have done it before i mean you you can see it in the stories of the old testament well how will the 1.00

01:58:32.000 hebrews fall off from god they get this same filth and sometimes you get like people uh that would 1.00

01:58:40.720 cannot be like this really democrats right saying oh but i will be your political savior i will do

01:58:46.540 everything right you just need to follow me you don't need to change your dysfunction just just follow

01:58:51.180 me yeah and then you get this this anti-christian fucked order right and i think there are two kind 0.85

01:58:58.300 of critical takeaways here number one in a sense uh the turps engaging in racial holo war against europe

01:59:06.360 is probably exactly what we need um you know god brings these people these things against us

01:59:11.520 because of our iniquity but the punishment is an opportunity to improve ourselves when um it's a

01:59:19.040 test in genesis in genesis when um cain and abel offer sacrifices to god and god accepts abel's

01:59:25.260 sacrifice but rejects cain's cain gets really butt flustered and you know god comes and says to

01:59:30.840 cain he says you know why are you so mad this is an opportunity for you to overcome yourself and to

01:59:35.620 improve this is why these things have been set before you and so in cain instead of trying to

01:59:40.960 overcome himself he murders his brother and so that you know that's the thing is really i think

01:59:46.300 that it might uh do the europeans some good um do you know to have the turk menish knocking on their 1.00

01:59:52.600 doors once again yeah because ultimately the only you know the only way we were ever able to beat

01:59:57.560 them in the past is by the spiritual strength that christianity afforded us now and the other thing i

02:00:03.740 want to say grave and then i want to actually ask doc savage for his impact because he hasn't spoken

02:00:08.120 at all on this subject so i want to say this should expose to everybody that what we seek is the

02:00:14.120 fundamental dismantling of the state apparatus that's our goal that's why you know we talk about

02:00:19.040 ourselves as revolutionaries we're not um revolutionaries in the in the enlightenment sense

02:00:24.300 in fact our values are anti-enlightened we seek to go back to traditionalism but when we live in a

02:00:30.960 tyrannical society where everything is based on the opposite of this we need revolution to destroy

02:00:35.240 this uh monstrous edifice in order that we can build something healthy upon its ashes

02:00:41.920 anyway doc i want to i want to get your perspective as you haven't said anything

02:00:47.100 what do you think about the prospect of racial holy war with the turks 0.91

02:00:50.040 okay well um uh comrades you keep using these terms um turkey turk uh 801 um are are you guys

02:01:02.080 referring to um mordor and orcs and sarong yeah oh okay okay yeah yeah yeah well um um the the shire

02:01:11.740 has no duty to accept orcs uh so um uh turn them away physical removal yeah well i mean something that

02:01:23.960 i thought about uh as well i said i mean sweden we for the first one we haven't really had any war

02:01:29.320 for well 200 years and that was when we conquered norway uh and the the parts where we actually lost

02:01:36.000 it's mainly been the imperial territory i mean we lost the baltics we lost finland but we haven't

02:01:41.760 really lost uh very much of the swedish heartland i mean you could argue like oland but that doesn't

02:01:47.600 really count uh so i mean we're really comfortable and because we're so comfortable because we've had 0.94

02:01:53.740 this luxury for so long we've grown basically fat and stupid so we think it will be like this 0.97

02:02:01.380 always so when we see these these people coming in they groom our children they spit on our culture 0.99

02:02:08.500 well on the other hand we don't really have any culture anymore and they they openly say they want

02:02:13.940 to conquer us what do we do well we say oh let's just be taller and instead and we we became become

02:02:21.100 this laughing stock of the world that we are now no one takes sweden seriously anymore well

02:02:27.800 no one exactly i mean and you will not be able to to resolve the situation without

02:02:36.040 taking we used to humble emperors back in the day we used to humble emperors now look at us

02:02:43.000 all right so we're going to move on we actually have some

02:02:49.640 wow yeah we actually have some consoling um consoling uh caliuga news this week what i want to ask you

02:02:58.700 so um doc why don't you pick a story and why don't you read it to us yeah read it to us doc

02:03:04.460 okay wow what an embarrassment of riches um let's do atheist blogger on trial in russia for playing

02:03:13.020 pokemon go

02:03:13.980 wow just because my my jimmies need some soothing here

02:03:22.400 that's very good so why don't you go ahead and uh and read the story

02:03:26.860 okay uh headline fox news tech uh segment atheist blogger on trial in russia for playing pokemon go

02:03:37.340 in church an atheist video blogger has gone on trial in russia for playing pokemon go in a church

02:03:43.480 the trial of uh ruslan soklavsky started monday in the ural city of

02:03:53.660 ye katrinberg yeah the video started playing sorry um uh ye katrinberg uh the well-known bloggers

02:04:04.080 accused of inciting religious hatred for playing the popular video game in a russian orthodox church

02:04:08.280 in ye katrinberg investigators have charged a 22 year old with inciting religious hatred

02:04:14.260 the same offense that sent two women from the pussy riot punk collective to prison for two years in 2012 0.75

02:04:20.520 they only got two years and insulting the feelings of religious believers

02:04:25.200 you faces a possible sentence of seven and a half years of convicted

02:04:30.900 oh good yeah i know i mean well it's you know at least there's like a little bit of sanity in russia

02:04:36.700 uh you know it's uh this guy basically you know he there's a specific line there i mean he was

02:04:42.120 basically going into the church to mock it um he uh let me see look at me playing pokemon well no

02:04:49.600 the human rights watchdog says that the blogger wanted to draw attention to russian legislation that

02:04:53.960 criminalizes actions that offend religious believers at the end of the video sokolowski says

02:04:58.760 that he caught several pokemon in the church quote but you know i didn't catch the rarest pokemon that

02:05:04.500 you could find there jesus he adds i but i couldn't help it they say it doesn't exist so i'm not really

02:05:10.180 surprised that's very clever because you know that that's very smart because he's atheist man and 0.88

02:05:16.420 atheists know that you know god is a pokemon yeah exactly fucking you let me just just just just 0.99

02:05:23.780 look at how infantile this is as well they're taking a fucking video game a fucking pokemon video 0.99

02:05:29.400 game you should stop playing those when you're like eight or something and they're like saying 0.98

02:05:33.520 yeah oh god doesn't exist in my pokemon game therefore he doesn't exist

02:05:39.220 i mean this is something you expect from a five-year-old pokemon more like satan man

02:05:46.500 incredible you sure got them they're not biting social commentary i tip my astral for door to you good sir

02:05:53.780 you know hit my pokeballs to you my friend i don't want you to tip your pokeballs to me good sir 0.91

02:06:01.520 i i i think i i think that prison is a little bit um uh not not enough here uh or maybe perhaps too

02:06:10.280 much not the correct corrective well it'd be public lashing is what i'd prescribe yeah yeah i agree 0.83

02:06:15.400 probably the same the same yeah that that is better i mean the cool suck video was top kick 0.99

02:06:20.540 yeah that's basically what he needs i mean he just needs a beating because it's just shitheaded 0.95

02:06:24.140 behavior you know i mean he doesn't need to take him i mean i don't i don't i don't really see why

02:06:29.640 taxpayers have to pay for him being infantile normally you just like give give him and no normally when

02:06:35.580 you see infantile she just kind of smacked him right just like take off your belt and like 1.00

02:06:39.060 yeah true precise well that's the thing i mean if we think about this you know in the past i mean

02:06:47.220 this is just you know this doesn't even need to be a criminal matter all a couple of guys from the 0.99

02:06:52.560 parish need to just give him a beating and that ought to teach him about you know being such a shithead 1.00

02:06:58.640 um it's not that complicated yeah but at least it's something i mean at least it it's something 0.99

02:07:05.780 you know i mean in france these these feminine women they they wander into to these churches with 1.00

02:07:10.880 their tops off uh screaming you know abort the pope you know they uh they they in america in america 0.53

02:07:19.540 satan or satanists uh steal statues of the blessed virgin mary from churches and desecrate them in public 1.00

02:07:28.640 yeah okay that's that's fucked okay there's no criminal charges against them 0.99

02:07:34.660 in south america you've got topless feminine riots uh assaulting parish churches and and um tearing 1.00

02:07:43.340 tearing statues down um spray painting just just general vandalism it's awful i mean i don't really

02:07:51.000 think you need you know um that capital like you don't need to imprison these women for it i mean

02:07:56.660 i think that if you you have like a pavement and the sledgehammer the hands they use to like tear

02:08:01.000 down the uh smash the statues of our holy idols icons i i think that a sledgehammer you know and a

02:08:09.540 pavement should be enough for the hands they they use to to to desecrate our symbols well that can ruin 0.68

02:08:15.820 the pavement though yeah i mean that's a good idea let's get a little uh let's get something

02:08:21.740 triggering and then we can go back to one of our our happy stories let me let me tell you something

02:08:25.780 triggering oh tell me let me tell you something let's let's uh okay uh this is this is swedish

02:08:31.000 news again and because the language barrier people don't really hear this stuff so they don't really

02:08:35.780 realize that sweden is a huge cult at this point and this was about somali rapists again 0.95

02:08:43.500 uh that's kind of classic and this is a minister saying that somali rapists that rape their 0.96

02:08:52.800 classmates shouldn't be forced to move and why shouldn't they be forced to move why because we

02:09:01.800 can all commit crime we can all commit crime and moving them doesn't mean that they stop committing

02:09:09.860 crime that's basically what she's saying so i mean you should basically make this this this victim 0.55

02:09:15.300 of these somali monkey rapists stay at the same school the same class and have to face the same 1.00

02:09:21.820 disgusting people every day and i mean you know what they're these people lack of empathy so i mean of 0.98

02:09:28.820 course these people will get heckled as well they will get teased about it and constantly remind 0.75

02:09:32.420 of what these somali has done to them and this is absurd now what are we doing are we rioting no 0.71

02:09:37.900 we're letting this happen we're letting this happen this is absurd so they are forced to to move on their

02:09:45.600 own accord of course because i mean who cares about victims in this country but hans what you have to

02:09:51.000 keep in mind here is that if you speak out against them that is a crime too and if you speak out against

02:09:55.880 it you would make you a hypocrite yeah and that that's why i use an alias because i don't want to 0.96

02:10:00.500 get horseshit punishment than the somalis get well you know wait a minute wait a minute so it's it 0.98

02:10:07.000 would be unjust to move these people to another area where they might commit a crime against someone 0.97

02:10:12.560 else okay i'll grant that but no that no no no that's not what you said that's not what you're saying

02:10:19.180 at all what you're saying is that moving them doesn't ensure that they cease committing crimes no well

02:10:28.620 that's okay so but there is a way the wording here is there is a way to ensure that they won't

02:10:34.640 commit any more crimes like of course there are there are but i mean take them out in the street

02:10:39.760 and you and you put one in the back of your head and probably yes and we we we do a very peaceful

02:10:44.800 democratic and legal treatment with them uh according to the just law because we're loyal citizens of

02:10:50.960 course uh but what was i about to say i mean that the wording is just it's absurd and this really

02:10:57.220 proves what i said before the reason why people don't want to punish these people is because they

02:11:01.440 realize they are just as depraved as these people and they don't want to get punished when they do

02:11:06.760 this film well it's true this is this is part of just the sickness of liberalism yeah you know when

02:11:11.280 let me tell you another thing about this minister tell me let me let me try to describe how this woman 1.00

02:11:17.860 looks uh short hair gray quite fat face looks like she's an alcoholic she doesn't really have any 1.00

02:11:28.300 eyebrows now don't use that word fat is very you know it's very like you know body well actually 0.91

02:11:34.040 that's insulting fat people i shouldn't insult fat people like that i take that back um further on

02:11:40.020 she has like this necklace and looks like she got her act together yeah but this necklace it doesn't 0.99

02:11:47.680 have a cross it has another type of cross it has the feminist symbol you know the the venus symbol 0.81

02:11:53.000 i mean she she is a business woman you know she she um she realized that she didn't need to become

02:11:58.040 a housewife you know so you know she made she made all the somalis her children hun yeah 1.00

02:12:03.100 and her children are you know raping everyone else's children and she being the good mother she is she 1.00

02:12:10.640 defends her children i mean what's kind of morbidly poetic with this whole picture as well is that the 0.79

02:12:15.800 the the symbol the defender symbol it got like a fist inside the circle as well so i mean first and

02:12:21.400 foremost it looks like it's like a a upturned cross really i mean it's kind of morbidly poetic how

02:12:32.120 i don't know it's just insane i mean you see this you see this news almost every day as well

02:12:40.320 i mean people can meme about this but what they have to realize is that these these things actually

02:12:44.840 happen and you know it's not really you know things you should joke about you know these things it's

02:12:51.560 just absurd but hey let's joke about these things let's let's see the whole world's giant meme

02:12:57.580 the swedish government as a whole any laws that is established by the swedish regime as of now

02:13:04.180 is illegitimate i mean by this point i mean the fact that they don't even like they make special

02:13:12.300 expected uh exceptions for the certain invaders i mean at that point having loyalty to a system like

02:13:21.000 that is it's next to spiritual cock holdry i mean well it is spiritual cock holdry and so there's

02:13:28.880 there's really only one thing i mean the swedish government and regime like everything that

02:13:33.220 resembles the current swedish system has to go the same goes for any other scandinavian country for

02:13:37.480 that matter i mean the system has to fall which is why reactionary ideas that you know the very

02:13:43.220 system that caused this piss to happen the same deceased notion of a system we have now that caused 0.99

02:13:50.180 all this fucking misery to befall our peoples it has to go i mean there's nothing to save fuck your 1.00

02:13:56.000 retirement fund fuck your insurance fuck it all it all has to go it has to go yeah 1.00

02:14:03.060 it all had to go yeah it's it's insane now we're going to cover two more stories i'm going to do 1.00

02:14:07.940 one more triggering one and i'm going to finish up with a consoling one so yeah from yahoo news

02:14:14.040 1500 acid attacks have been recorded in london since 2011 acid attacks acid attacks in britain's

02:14:23.180 capital are soaring to new heights new data reveals a freedom of information request submitted by the

02:14:29.360 mirrors shows that between 2011 and 2016 london had nearly 1500 cases of the devastating crime

02:14:36.020 in the long term the scale of these injuries are so scarring that victims can offer suffer serious

02:14:42.220 psychological damage as a result of the attacks last year alone there were 431 such acid attacks

02:14:49.080 a rise of 170 from the year prior that means there's more than one acid attack a day 0.96

02:14:54.080 in london there's an acid attack every fucking day in london i mean how does that work do they like 0.76

02:15:04.060 just just just i don't know pour acid on people's faces or something yes they get vials of acid and 0.97

02:15:09.860 their enemies that have dishonored them in some way particularly women who are vulnerable to this

02:15:14.660 they go up and they throw them in their face on the street they burn them with this acid on the street

02:15:18.360 is very common in the middle east as a form of retribution this is the fruit of these policies 1.00

02:15:26.140 this is what has become of merry england every day more than one

02:15:33.580 and it's increasing so next year next year if it increases at this rate very well might be two

02:15:41.260 acid attacks a day if it increases by 200 two acid attacks a day

02:15:46.140 yeah and so i mean

02:15:50.000 let there be no mistake at all that we're not going to be able to solve this problem

02:15:59.860 under this current state apparatus this is why we need to completely dismantle and destroy

02:16:05.640 the civilizationally suicidal system of enlightenment ethics and philosophy that we've built our entire

02:16:12.960 world upon that has rotted us from the inside out that has allowed these people to come here and do 0.99

02:16:19.300 these things in our lands we allow them to that's the thing there's not any right there's nothing of

02:16:26.060 that there was kind of a riot almost in in gotland a while ago but then they they you know went full

02:16:34.100 force police there so i mean not very much materialized there but at least the the gotlanders have some

02:16:40.780 sense of your backbone but you make a fair point what go on what i think that what the general what

02:16:48.360 our listeners need to re-evaluate to themselves is

02:16:51.920 they need to prepare themselves to let go of any sentimentalism regarding our system any part of

02:17:02.320 our state apparatus as we know it let go of all all your your emotional connections and ties to it

02:17:09.720 we we we need to liberate your mind we need to liberate everything from that let go of it and

02:17:17.460 the time is soon right i mean i i often use the phrase waiting for godot waiting for you know

02:17:25.280 you know if any of the listeners are not familiar with that waiting for the godot is a play where

02:17:31.100 two men wait for a guy to show up but he never shows up right what we're talking about now is

02:17:38.220 essentially something that is soon right i mean we all organize prepare yourselves i mean what we need

02:17:46.200 to do is not just remove all these people for the purpose of maintaining the same insanity we have

02:17:52.220 going now we remove it we need to create something new we're talking about a rebirth rebirth a rebirth

02:17:59.140 on nations uh when a rebirth in in fire steel and blood pretty much a baptism of fire if you will

02:18:09.600 yeah well maybe there's nothing there's nothing there's nothing we we want to maintain now there's

02:18:17.340 nothing the old ideas of the welfare state i mean all of our dreams like we were told when we were

02:18:22.700 children from the american dream where you were told that you know you are your own fortunes blacksmith

02:18:28.080 you can create your own fortune the american dream instead in in scandinavia where you were told that

02:18:33.940 the scandinavian welfare state the ideal of the scandinavian welfare state that after a long life of

02:18:38.480 labor that you would be able to retire smack your feet up on the table and say and call it a day now

02:18:44.000 you're ready to die peacefully that's gone you're not gonna have it it's gone if you are above the age

02:18:49.700 of 20 any dreams you have of your future in your nation it's gone it's simply it's been ruined it's

02:18:56.140 not there we have nothing nothing so what i need you to reevaluate as a man who's listening to this

02:19:04.140 with an interest and possibly an investment in the future you have to reevaluate is there anything for me

02:19:10.860 and if you quickly realize that wow you realize that you will be able to be retired by the age of 82

02:19:17.100 you might realize that your your children is not going to have it easier because the burden 0.99

02:19:22.360 of our politicians shitty decisions because they're all a bunch of pampering plutocratic swine 0.81

02:19:27.980 you will realize that there is no future there is nothing you have nothing people in um in um 0.97

02:19:35.640 metropolitan areas and i just saw um an article for america where people from suburban areas not

02:19:42.680 suburban um urban areas in america the suicide rates are up the fucking roof like in the average 0.70

02:19:49.140 american metropolitan area the suicide rates are up to 10 percent something like that in the urban areas 0.96

02:19:56.840 right not suburban like urban areas we're talking about suicide rates suicide rates that are four times that 0.82

02:20:03.120 people are committing suicide because there is no fucking future so what are we going to do are we 0.93

02:20:08.060 going to vote are we going to go up and leave a comfortable vote for something we think is going 0.99

02:20:11.920 to save us do we have time for it eight years do you think it's going to save us the system the system

02:20:17.940 is still going to be there it's still going to give you opportunities for the same disease spreaders to

02:20:21.800 come in the same people to continue the dark cycle of social democracy and egalitarianism it's still

02:20:29.160 going to be there so what are we going to do are we going to we're going to wait for you know that

02:20:34.360 guy on the white horse with the saber in the sky screaming charge it's not going to happen we're not

02:20:39.840 going to be able to sit on our couch and watch the news and say wow what a base politician it's

02:20:45.080 something we have to determine to ourselves white revolution aryan revolution is the only solution 0.96

02:20:50.960 yeah well uh the kingdom of god is none of this world right

02:20:55.400 for our last article i wanted to read something that was a a little bit lighter perhaps

02:21:02.720 from the independent.co.uk atheists at risk of dying out due to belief in contraception study claims

02:21:13.460 a new study has suggested that atheism is doomed because religious people have higher rates of

02:21:20.240 reproduction due to their lack of belief in contraception religious believers are having 0.99

02:21:25.940 more children than atheists which could ultimately result in the end of atheism the study suggests

02:21:32.820 these findings fly in the face of popular discourse and scientists predictions which implies fewer and

02:21:40.760 fewer people are religious nowadays i i read something really really interesting about this recently it's

02:21:49.740 called it's from a reddit board called child free and the the title of this topic is religion and

02:22:01.860 breeding so let's actually read this small wall of text let's read this it will be well worth it trust

02:22:08.080 me i believe i found out the main reason why certain religions endorse having kids by the truckload

02:22:16.820 this revelation should have dawned on me earlier but hey there's right time for everything to happen

02:22:22.360 the first reason is because they get more followers to fight their wars to provide the promotion of the

02:22:28.220 faith but more importantly strengthen numbers so that they can exert control over members of other

02:22:34.100 religions a prominent example with the prompt example would be that of john casick and isn't he like

02:22:41.520 one of those cuck publicans yeah i think so uh most problem act like of some pro-natalist religious

02:22:49.120 leader who continually abuses his power as a governor of ohio to persistently oppose federal grants to 0.84

02:22:54.780 perform abortions well abuses power i mean that's that's using his power if anything even though even

02:23:00.860 though he has no medical background overturning of la la la la la the point is they use all these

02:23:07.200 really disturbing terms to try to dehumanize actual people who want families they call them breeders

02:23:13.620 they call them like natalists they call them all this stuff i mean atheists when they are total 0.99

02:23:22.440 hedonists i mean that's essentially slow suicide i mean hedonism is slow suicide so i mean it would make

02:23:27.880 sense that atheists would actually not really have children because they realize well they think that 0.92

02:23:37.220 everything in life is just pure misery for no point so that's why i think that the bigger the bigger

02:23:42.280 thing that this is showing is the the future belongs to those who show up and the people who are showing up

02:23:48.500 is us and so uh listeners brothers and sisters you know keep your hand on the gospel plow and continue

02:23:57.140 fighting the good fight the most radical thing that you can do is to raise a healthy family

02:24:03.520 that's where the foundation of this new civilization that we want to see emerge

02:24:10.020 will come from it will come from healthy families and we've just done an episode a couple of

02:24:16.640 weeks ago about the subject exactly now we've come to the end of our show for today

02:24:25.660 so i'd like to thank all of our listeners for joining us i'm your host florian geyer

02:24:31.840 joining me today i have my co-hosts greve hans greve thank you for joining us death to denmark

02:24:39.800 wow i've got my special co-host nat danelaw um take back scone please

02:24:47.820 my other co-host doc savage doc thank you for joining us glad to be here uh remember the meek

02:25:03.400 shall inherit the earth so bend your pride before the lord to all of our listeners thank you once

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Mysterium Fasces Episode 21 — The Environment

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