Mysterium Fasces

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00:02:30.000 This is a very Jacob and my co-host as well, Doc Savage. Savage, thank you for coming on. It's a pleasure.

00:02:37.740 Always a pleasure. Christ is risen.

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00:02:42.280 And joining us this week for a special interview is an honored and esteemed guest, Dr. E. Michael Jones. It's a pleasure to have you on.

00:02:52.820 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Pleasure to be here.

00:02:55.780 I know I can speak for myself, but for many of our listeners, we've been profoundly influenced by your works. And I know my spiritual father is Matthew Raphael Johnson. And I know for him as well, you were a huge intellectual influence. So I think I can certainly speak for my co-host when I want to just thank you personally for the excellent, excellent scholarship that you've done. It's been very, very influential in me as well.

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00:04:11.280 So, Graeva Savage, do you have anything you want to get out of the way before we get into the meat and potatoes of our episode?

00:04:17.280 No, not really, no.

00:04:19.280 I have something I'd like to say before we get into the real nitty gritty here.

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00:04:24.280 I rode down the Danube River with a group of about 20 Germans. And along the way I made contact with Zankt Florian, your patron saint.

00:04:39.280 Wow.

00:04:40.280 I don't know whether you're familiar with the iconography of Zankt Florian.

00:04:45.280 Not at all.

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00:04:47.280 Yeah, it's basically the saint and he's got a huge mug of beer.

00:04:52.280 After my own heart.

00:04:54.280 He's pouring this huge mug of beer on a burning house.

00:04:58.280 That's the experience.

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00:05:01.280 Zankt Florian is the patron saint of firemen.

00:05:04.280 Wow.

00:05:05.280 And there's a little poem that they recited to me after they showed me this image in one of the churches.

00:05:10.280 It's,

00:05:11.280 So, blessed St. Florian, protect our house from fire.

00:05:27.280 Set other people's houses on fire instead.

00:05:30.280 Wow.

00:05:31.280 Okay.

00:05:32.280 I just said, I had to get that off my chest.

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00:05:38.280 Thank you.

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00:05:40.280 No, I didn't know that.

00:05:41.280 There are many times I'm interviewed by a guy named Florian, so I had to say it.

00:05:46.280 Yeah.

00:05:47.280 It's got an even deeper level of irony because the particular, I adopted my name, you know, based on a German folk song.

00:05:56.280 I heard National's folk tune.

00:05:58.280 It's like about the black band of Florian Geyer.

00:06:01.280 And I didn't speak German at the time, but I carried it over to this, this Nom de Guerre.

00:06:07.280 And, but it turns out that the actual Florian Geyer that the song is named after was a Protestant hedge knight in the peasant wars in Germany.

00:06:18.280 And it was a quite, quite anti-Catholic, quite anti-high church, which of course, you know, Catholic at the time.

00:06:25.280 So it was a...

00:06:27.280 I'm sure St. Florian will forgive him for that.

00:06:31.280 Indeed.

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00:06:33.280 I can only hope that he prays for us.

00:06:35.280 So yeah, we had, when we were drafting our notes for this week...

00:06:38.280 Meat and potatoes, huh?

00:06:39.280 Sorry, please go ahead.

00:06:40.280 Meat and potatoes, huh?

00:06:42.280 Yes, I was always saying.

00:06:43.280 So when we were drafting our notes for this week, we, there was so many different topics that we wanted to speak to you about, and we have limited time.

00:06:50.280 So we have many different things that likely we won't get to discuss with you particularly on this episode, although we might discuss them after you leave.

00:06:56.280 But we kind of isolated two that we think are important to discuss.

00:07:00.280 The first one we wanted to discuss was usury, and the second we wanted to discuss was libido dominandi and sexuality as a tool of political control.

00:07:10.280 So to begin...

00:07:11.280 Okay.

00:07:12.280 Excellent.

00:07:13.280 To begin with usury, I would just ask you the question, you know, what is usury?

00:07:18.280 Because most people are not, don't really know what the definition is, and has the definition changed or shifted over time in common parlance?

00:07:25.280 Usury is a sin, okay?

00:07:29.280 Because it's a sin, it cannot change over time, because human nature cannot change.

00:07:34.280 Defined in its broadest sense, usury occurs whenever the stronger party in an economic exchange takes advantage of the weaker party.

00:07:43.280 The most common instance of usury is the loan or the lending money.

00:07:50.280 This is an injustice because in this transaction, the stronger party, the creditor, invariably takes advantage of the weaker party or the debtor because the weaker party agrees to pay back something that he did not borrow, namely interest, compound interest on the loan.

00:08:11.280 This is invariably ruinous to anyone who gets involved in these contracts.

00:08:16.280 Sometimes you can escape it, but over the long haul, it is ruinous and has proven ruinous throughout human history.

00:08:23.280 The best example I can give is the one I gave in Barren Metal, The History of Capitalism as the Conflict Between Labor and Usury.

00:08:33.280 The Habsburg family borrowed their first loan from the Fugger family, the Augsburg banking family in 1492.

00:08:48.280 Wait a minute, no, 1494, I believe.

00:08:52.280 This is two years after the United States, after Spain discovered the New World.

00:08:58.280 Over the period of the next 50 years, all of the gold and silver that were in Spanish colonies in the New World flowed into the coffers of the Habsburg family, and all of that money could not prevent them from going bankrupt, which they did 70 years later.

00:09:17.380 This shows you the incredibly destructive power of compound interest because a floating loan after 70 years is simply unrepayable, cannot be repaid.

00:09:28.980 Okay, the Catholic Church took cognizance of this fact, the injustice involved in usury, at the beginning of the money economy, which is the late Middle Ages in places like Italy, where people suddenly started to need money, whereas before they did not, and condemned it forthrightly for 100 years.

00:09:48.960 They tried to come up with an alternative, the Monte de Pietà, which was basically pawn shops for the poor.

00:09:55.940 These things failed.

00:09:57.220 There was a huge amount of controversy, whether 5% was usurious or whether it could be used as a fee, and so on and so forth.

00:10:04.240 Finally, in 1745, Pope Benedict XIV wrote his encyclical, Vicks Perveni, in which he gave the definitive statement of the Catholic Church's teaching, namely that any loan, any compound interest loan is immoral.

00:10:21.620 He said at that point that the financial situation has become so complex that I can't deal with every single instance in this encyclical, so therefore I'm referring this issue to the private forum.

00:10:39.120 That means you have to go to your confessor and talk to him about it to see if you're committing the sin of usury.

00:10:44.140 This did not mean, unlike what some people say, that the church changed its teaching on usury.

00:10:50.860 The church cannot and has not and can never change its teaching on usury anymore than it can change its teaching on adultery or murder.

00:11:00.580 Yeah, there is another thing that's very important as well, and that's the results that it gives, right?

00:11:07.940 I mean, take Spain as an example.

00:11:10.520 I mean, they had to expand insanely much in South America, right?

00:11:14.560 And they committed all those, you know, they used to eat the natives as slave labor in the silver mines, right? 0.99

00:11:21.800 And then you have, like, the Dutch Rebellion, right?

00:11:25.000 So, or Belgian or whatever it was, in the Netherlands at least.

00:11:28.900 And they lost that, right?

00:11:30.260 And then, you know, the interest rose, right?

00:11:32.760 Because, you know, the market fluctuated.

00:11:35.360 The market was a bit worried, right?

00:11:37.940 And did you have this huge expansion rate?

00:11:40.200 Because that debt needs to be repaid rights, and it's got to be repaid some way.

00:11:45.220 And it's gone all the way to the present.

00:11:46.940 The current conflict between Greece and Germany is a conflict over unrepayable sovereign loans.

00:11:53.240 They'll never be able to repay them.

00:11:54.720 And so what they're going through is the charade of relending money, which goes right through Greece and back into the bank that lent it in the first place.

00:12:03.540 And in the meantime, the usurers are now plundering the Grecian economy, demanding austerity, in quotes, and demanding the resources of Greece to pay off what is ultimately an unrepayable loan.

00:12:18.280 So it's continued all the way to the present.

00:12:20.720 Nothing is ever going to change in this regard.

00:12:22.440 It's fascinating to me, and this is something I've never heard before, but usury in principle is not directly tied to if we're charging interest, how much interest we're charging.

00:12:40.140 There's a fundamental principle at play of justice rather than the actual creation of money out of nothing, which is the language I've usually heard to describe what usury is.

00:12:57.780 So I think that's an important point that bears repeating.

00:13:02.480 Yeah.

00:13:03.280 Yeah, that's fascinating.

00:13:04.860 And one of the, I think, conspicuous issues when we deal with usury is that there are not – this is the stated position of the Catholic Church, and I know that traditionally this was near universally.

00:13:16.880 The Christian position was firmly anti-usurious.

00:13:20.780 But what has occurred that the Christian teachings no longer hold sway in the social and economic forum?

00:13:29.400 Why has the Western world and its Christian denominations become so schizophrenic with their application of this teaching? 1.00

00:13:39.140 I know that there was – during the Reformation, John Calvin wrote a very famous letter called Dei-usuris where he changed – he basically legitimized some forms of usury.

00:13:49.700 Right.

00:13:50.580 Yes, you're right.

00:13:51.380 The short answer to your question is the Reformation.

00:13:54.960 The Reformation was a looting operation. 0.95

00:13:57.860 That's all it was, pure and simple.

00:14:01.480 In England, there was absolutely no other possibility other than calling it a looting operation.

00:14:07.780 Basically, the princes at this point in history realized that the church owned enormous amounts of property, and they coveted the property, and they basically used the Reformation as an excuse to steal that property.

00:14:21.020 In Germany, the same situation applied.

00:14:24.480 The difference was that you had a theologian, a monk, who gave some type of theological justification to it.

00:14:30.460 That was Martin Luther.

00:14:31.960 But basically, it's the same situation throughout every reformed country.

00:14:36.320 Every reformed country did the same deal.

00:14:38.560 Basically, the prince went to the head of the church and said, look, we'll make you the state church if you give us church property.

00:14:47.340 And that was the deal, and that's all it's been.

00:14:49.480 So on that shaky foundation, you are not going to be able to hold the line against usury.

00:14:54.040 And that's precisely what happened.

00:14:56.420 England became the foremost promoter of international usury, and that is basically known now as capitalism.

00:15:05.020 Capitalism, according to Heinrich Pesce, is state-sponsored usury.

00:15:09.820 And that's the main reason why the church can no longer – the church lost its police power once you had the rise of these Protestant countries. 0.92

00:15:17.900 Yeah, you're right.

00:15:19.540 I mean, last year, I remember reading that Gustav Valdstein did the same thing here in Sweden about Valdstein, a monastery.

00:15:27.860 He basically looted everything.

00:15:30.480 Sweden's the same story.

00:15:32.100 The Scandinavian countries, Scotland, England, Germany, it's all the same story.

00:15:37.520 Yeah, it is. It really is.

00:15:40.360 So is there a chronological start of usury's financial practices?

00:15:47.580 Do we know when this began and when it rose to prominence in Europe?

00:15:52.980 Was it, strictly speaking, correlated with the Reformation?

00:15:57.200 In Europe, yes.

00:15:57.900 I mean, first of all, usury was known from time immemorial.

00:16:01.720 That's what I imagine, yeah.

00:16:02.960 I have a correspondent now in India who's writing articles now for Culture Wars who talked about basically what was the basis of the caste system in India.

00:16:15.040 Well, it was usury.

00:16:16.860 And when usury gets totally entrenched in a culture, you'll find some type of religious sanction or justification given for it, and that's basically Hinduism. 0.96

00:16:27.200 In other words, the creditor class became the Brahmins. 0.90

00:16:30.680 That's before history.

00:16:33.700 That's in the midst, lost in the midst of time.

00:16:35.800 But basically, what I said about Europe is basically it meant the rise of the Reformation.

00:16:42.380 The Reformation led to the rise of countries trading empires like the English and the Dutch, who basically ended up fighting with each other, a turf battle, which the English won.

00:16:51.960 But these became places where the church simply could not enforce the law.

00:16:58.280 And once they could not enforce the law, then these countries had an advantage, okay, because the creditor always has an advantage.

00:17:06.160 And so what you saw in the New World was, let's say, the battle between England and France and Canada, okay?

00:17:14.220 Well, the English had the advantage because they were more ruthless than the French, because the habit of usury had become so ingrained in them. 1.00

00:17:25.520 The habit of ruthless trade in combination with the Jews in the New World just made them more ruthless and therefore better able to conquer the English. 1.00

00:17:38.000 I'm sorry, the French, and take over Canada. 1.00

00:17:42.880 Just an instance here, an instance that I know personally, there's a Fort Michimilly-Mackinac on the Straits of Mackinac between the Upper and Lower Peninsula.

00:17:56.400 The fort has been turned into a museum by the state of Michigan.

00:18:01.820 There's a video there.

00:18:02.940 The video gives a pretty clear description of what happened here, okay?

00:18:07.000 The first frame of the video is French.

00:18:10.020 The French arrive, and there's a picture of the Frenchman marrying the Indian maiden in front of a Catholic priest.

00:18:17.300 Okay, next picture, the English arrive.

00:18:19.780 The English bring with them a Jew who runs the trading post. 0.98

00:18:24.680 This is what they say.

00:18:26.420 I'm not saying it.

00:18:27.160 They said it in the video, okay? 0.97

00:18:29.000 The Jew then begins to cheat the Indians. 1.00

00:18:31.560 The Indians get annoyed, okay? 1.00

00:18:33.520 Next video, they're playing lacrosse or something outside the fort.

00:18:38.040 They flip the ball over, ask to come in. 0.87

00:18:40.480 They open the English, open the gates, and the Indians come in and slaughter everyone, okay? 1.00

00:18:45.900 This is what we're talking about here.

00:18:48.440 This, what could have been a Catholic colonization under the benign Jesuits in Quebec and in Paraguay and South America was strangled in its cradle by a free Masonic conspiracy, and the result was this ruthless capitalism that has now spread throughout the entire world. 0.79

00:19:08.440 Wow, that's pithy and well said.

00:19:15.200 So essentially, Canada is American-tired constructs. 0.76

00:19:21.060 Yeah, I mean, I think that's objectively a fact both in conception and in actuality.

00:19:28.260 Yeah, yeah, I guess it is.

00:19:29.420 You know, I mean, I'm a Canadian, Dr. Jones, so, you know, I can speak to this, right, on a personal level, is that this country doesn't have any, you know, cultural or ethnic or even imperial identity that solidifies it.

00:19:43.620 It's entirely economic.

00:19:45.320 The national identity has become identified with the socialized medicine system.

00:19:50.740 That's the point of national pride.

00:19:52.260 Right.

00:19:54.380 And that's, anyway, we could go off into the weeds there, but I think we're going to have to sort of stay focused.

00:20:00.180 So what seems to me the overwhelming motivation towards, oh, please go ahead, Savage.

00:20:06.120 Would there be any justice in looking at the Renaissance and the rise of the Italian merchant princes as being the sort of the source of the infection that would later cover Europe? 0.79

00:20:26.480 Yes, you're absolutely right.

00:20:27.440 The source of the infection was the Medici family.

00:20:30.700 In particular, Cosimo hosted the Council of Florence when the Orthodox came to try and resolve their issues with the Roman Catholic Church.

00:20:44.880 They did resolve those issues, but Cosimo used this as an example to smuggle Neoplatonism into Europe for the first time. 0.55

00:20:53.880 Neoplatonism is another word for magic.

00:20:55.920 The man who did this is a man by the name of George Gamistos.

00:21:00.680 He gave the hermetic text to Cosimo, who gave them to Ficino, who was then to translate them into Latin, which he did.

00:21:09.940 This is the entry of magic, Neoplatonic magic, into Europe. 0.58

00:21:18.300 Is this also when the Freemasons kind of started to?

00:21:24.600 No, we're way before Freemasonry.

00:21:27.140 Oh, of course.

00:21:27.480 Freemasonry does not become significant until 1721, when the Whigs take over the Masonic lodges and turn them into covert warfare against the Bourbon monarchy in France. 0.71

00:21:39.240 So this is centuries before that.

00:21:41.940 Okay, I see.

00:21:42.600 This would lead to the rise of the Rosicrucians and the so-called Christian capitalists. 0.84

00:21:48.980 Right, right.

00:21:50.380 And it does lead to Descartes figures in this whole thing.

00:21:53.720 There's this whole murky period.

00:21:56.480 But so it went from Ficino to Reuchlin in Germany and then from Reuchlin with a few intermediaries to John Dee in England.

00:22:07.940 And from John Dee, it went to Isaac Newton, who was the last alchemist.

00:22:12.720 And he was the man who basically mainstreamed Neoplatonic philosophy as Newtonian physics.

00:22:21.040 And Newtonian physics then became the philosophical underpinning for English capitalist economics.

00:22:27.920 Adam Smith is nothing more than Isaac Newton on the economic level.

00:22:33.040 We've talked about the subject today exactly before.

00:22:35.620 This is very interesting.

00:22:36.680 I have a 1,400-page book that explains it in great detail.

00:22:41.060 It's called Barren Metal.

00:22:42.680 But basically, the chapter, Newton resurrected Empedocles, who said that the universe was basically the function of two forces, love and strife.

00:22:55.320 Those two forces became gravity and inertia.

00:22:57.940 And under Newton and then under Smith, they became competition and self-interest.

00:23:05.960 This circular motion was the basis for laissez-faire economics, which basically prohibited any moral intervention into the economy, which led to the disaster which we have today.

00:23:19.340 OK, because economics is fundamentally a moral science.

00:23:24.000 It is a part of how we achieve the good.

00:23:28.840 It's like ethics and politics.

00:23:30.600 This is how man achieves the good in the economic realm.

00:23:34.100 And you have to intervene in economics to make sure there is a moral economy.

00:23:40.580 This is the gist of my book, Barren Metal.

00:23:44.020 I'm trying to return economics to its proper matrix, namely in practical reason, philosophy, moral philosophy.

00:23:54.320 The death of this occurred when the English decided that economics was a form of physics based on Isaac Newton.

00:24:01.400 And that led to basically the prohibition of intervention in the economy.

00:24:08.740 And that led to things like the starvation of a million Irishmen during the Irish potato famine and all other kinds of catastrophes.

00:24:16.000 And it's still with us today.

00:24:17.160 Yes, we've talked about the the hermetic and Western esoteric origins of the empirical science system and the Royal Society before on this program.

00:24:34.120 Exactly.

00:24:35.320 The figure John Dee in some depth.

00:24:37.020 So, yes, where this is a familiar territory to us, but fascinating to have that that color.

00:24:42.540 Or, Doc, did you want to say something or should we perhaps move on to our next topic?

00:24:46.240 We have limited time here today.

00:24:50.120 That's that's all very interesting.

00:24:52.080 And it's it's distressing to me to have to look again at at Platonism like that.

00:25:05.300 I think we can make a distinction between the Platonism of the Church Fathers and this this this this hermetic Neoplatonism.

00:25:15.960 Well, I mean, you're absolutely right.

00:25:19.300 Let me let me state clearly what I'm saying here.

00:25:22.100 Neoplatonism does not refer to Socrates, Plato and Aristotle.

00:25:27.840 Neoplatonism.

00:25:28.480 Let's put that that that philosophy, which was basically the entry of Logos into human history, beginning with Anaxagoras, died.

00:25:38.580 It simply collapsed and it was replaced by the time of Yamblichus or, let's say, Julian, the apostate, who tried to resurrect it as the religion of the Roman Empire.

00:25:49.420 And it would be replaced by magic.

00:25:51.120 There's no question that Neoplatonism is a form of magic.

00:25:54.860 And that's what I'm talking about.

00:25:56.280 I am a friend of Plato.

00:25:57.780 I am a friend of Aristotle and I'm a friend of Socrates.

00:26:02.500 And I'm trying to promote this return to the Logos they discovered in places like Iran and India at the current moment.

00:26:12.180 So, yeah, let me be perfectly clear.

00:26:14.680 Neoplatonism is the opposite of Platonism.

00:26:18.780 Well said.

00:26:19.780 Well said.

00:26:20.400 We agree with you 100 percent.

00:26:22.080 And it seems like that's a continuation of the general rule.

00:26:26.060 Neo-anything is, well, Jewish. 0.96

00:26:29.940 Yeah.

00:26:30.300 I think also we're talking about one of the greatest turning points in human history, which is basically the turning point of human history, the arrival of Jesus Christ, God incarnate.

00:26:41.820 And the decision on the part of the evangelists like St. John to write their gospel in Greek, which meant that the incorporation of Greek philosophy into the Catholic Church.

00:26:53.740 But what is even more important, that meant that the church became the vehicle for Logos, for the entire world and for the rest of human history.

00:27:02.020 So when the Greeks failed, the Greek philosophers failed, the church came in and picked up the ball and carried it forward.

00:27:10.960 The beginning of the Gospel of St. John is a metaphysical treatise that is one of the most profound documents of all of human history.

00:27:18.720 And if I ever get back to Iran, to Mashhad, to talk to the Islamic scholars, I'd like to discuss the third sentence, which is basically a Kai Logos en Theos.

00:27:31.220 And Logos is God.

00:27:33.140 That's an incredibly profound statement.

00:27:35.120 I think that's something we need to meditate.

00:27:36.740 We've talked about it extensively, extensively on the show.

00:27:39.640 The concept of Logos is central to our worldview and how we dissect things.

00:27:43.700 And so I think we're exactly on the same page.

00:27:46.380 In fact, I wrote a theology paper about this as a final.

00:27:49.900 The context of Greek philosophical thought in the Mediterranean before St. John wrote his gospel.

00:27:57.720 And it's even with figures like Philo of Alexandria, we can see that there's an incredible, incredible degree of Hellenization of this Old Testament thought existed before Christ was incarnate.

00:28:11.220 That's right.

00:28:12.340 And as a distinction, I'd just like to mention the fact that the Koran was written in Arabic.

00:28:20.460 And that had also huge consequences, but of the opposite sort, because Arabic was not a philosophical language.

00:28:28.680 And in a sense, Islam was handicapped by the fact that they did not speak Greek and they did not have access to that tradition.

00:28:35.160 That's something I'm trying to negotiate, yes, with my Iranian friends. 0.55

00:28:41.980 The possibility of resurrecting philosophy in an Islamic country like Iran is something that I find intriguing at this point.

00:28:51.640 And as we say, inshallah, it will happen.

00:28:55.140 God willing, indeed.

00:28:56.920 Now, because of time constraints, I want to move on to our next topic.

00:29:03.340 Any of the things that you talked about.

00:29:04.700 I have a suggestion.

00:29:06.500 I have a suggestion.

00:29:07.720 Why don't we do, you want to, Libido Dominandi, there's lots of stuff we can talk about there, but that's really a whole program.

00:29:14.260 We should do a whole program on that.

00:29:15.620 Of course.

00:29:15.960 So my feeling is we're running close to the end here.

00:29:19.460 Why don't we just finish up what we're doing here and then we schedule another program where we talk about Libido Dominandi.

00:29:24.900 That sounds like Russell's great.

00:29:26.600 I, unfortunately, I'm under the gun here right now and I got to get out of here and get something done here.

00:29:32.060 But, I mean, I'm enjoying this conversation and I would like to continue it at some other time, especially on the topic of Libido Dominandi, which is an incredibly relevant issue right now.

00:29:44.900 Oh, exactly.

00:29:45.580 We're of one mind then.

00:29:46.940 We appreciate it and we will accept your offer.

00:29:50.240 Good.

00:29:50.880 Good.

00:29:51.140 Well, it's been my pleasure.

00:29:53.580 I've enjoyed talking to you and I hope we can get together and talk again.

00:29:57.640 We will.

00:29:58.160 We will.

00:29:58.500 See you later, Dr. Jones.

00:29:59.380 God bless you.

00:29:59.880 Christ is risen.

00:30:00.560 Thanks very much.

00:30:01.440 God bless.

00:30:02.280 Okay.

00:30:05.460 Well.

00:30:06.460 Okay.

00:30:07.140 So, what to talk about now, Florian?

00:30:09.480 You're the big host, big man.

00:30:11.200 Yeah, the big host.

00:30:13.200 So, hopefully our listeners enjoyed that, you know, that segment, unfortunately, as you are all aware, he was only available to speak for us, with us for 30 minutes today.

00:30:23.520 So, hopefully we should be able to get back on and give the full treatment to the topics discussed.

00:30:28.640 I mean, speaking of usual again, I mean, this is essentially what Spengler has been saying all along, really.

00:30:33.720 If you read all his works and study what he's saying, of course, right, as a society gets more and more institutionalized, right, the economic power gets more and more influence, right?

00:30:44.120 This is timeless.

00:30:44.960 This is even something new.

00:30:46.920 Well, yeah, that's what I do.

00:30:49.360 Yeah, yeah, but just let me finish.

00:30:50.600 Then you can continue.

00:30:51.620 Let Grieve speak.

00:30:52.740 Let Grieve speak.

00:30:54.920 And, right, and society, when it gets institutionalized, it gets like a machine, right?

00:31:01.500 Even before the machine was invented, it's kind of like the same business.

00:31:04.160 It's still kind of like a machine.

00:31:06.200 It's dead.

00:31:06.640 It's cold.

00:31:07.160 It's mechanized.

00:31:07.900 It's electoralized.

00:31:09.860 And when society becomes a machine, right, it becomes a tool of the money, the money grabbers, the shekelmasters, so to speak, right? 1.00

00:31:17.260 And the shekelmasters, right? 1.00

00:31:19.080 They conjure whatever they want, right?

00:31:20.680 They conjure wars.

00:31:21.660 They conjure whatever.

00:31:22.960 And da-di-da-di-da.

00:31:24.020 Now we're in the mess right now.

00:31:25.920 Well, this is something I wanted to discuss with Dr. Jones before he left.

00:31:29.000 But if we should pick up the discussion of USRI and we can kind of continue on what we were discussing.

00:31:33.720 This is the thing is that when the – why does USRI exist?

00:31:39.020 Why does it exist?

00:31:39.940 Because there's a demand for liquid capital, right?

00:31:43.380 Yes.

00:31:43.640 The demand for liquid capital is almost always, almost always without fail caused by like two reasons.

00:31:51.440 One is military.

00:31:53.100 Military expenses.

00:31:54.680 Wars are incredibly expensive.

00:31:56.460 You know, anybody who pays attention to the budget that was just passed in the United States.

00:32:01.320 I mean, this is, you know, a trillion dollars, something like this.

00:32:05.220 You know, the budgets are extraordinary.

00:32:08.440 The whole economy could not be – could not remain liquid, could not continue to run unless the – they were backed by, you know, infinite amounts of usurious capital.

00:32:18.640 So, you know, I think, Doc, I don't know if you know the number.

00:32:24.360 It was like two or three trillion dollars were spent in Iraq on that war.

00:32:28.940 Two or three dollars?

00:32:29.720 Well, we will never know the actual round number because so much of what is spent is camouflaged under other line items.

00:32:40.080 But that's one of the best estimates I've seen is two or three trillion dollars.

00:32:45.040 And that's just indirect military spending.

00:32:47.580 That's not counting other expenditures that were only necessary because we're, you know, in a land war in Asia.

00:32:53.860 Yes. Yes, precisely.

00:32:57.620 And this is the – and so this is the thing.

00:32:59.560 The only other thing in ancient times especially, but in modern times as well, is infrastructure projects are usually very, very expensive.

00:33:08.220 And so this is the thing.

00:33:09.160 And the nature of the mechanization of warfare, the application of technology to fighting, is that it has gotten more and more unpersonal and more and more efficient.

00:33:19.200 So death tolls have been rising and in war the majority of deaths come to indirect artillery fire from planes or from static gun positions.

00:33:28.820 And so what has occurred – Evola talks about this in his Metaphysics of War.

00:33:31.900 What has occurred is that as the mechanization of society has increased, the focus on the organic interaction between persons and their own worth has decreased commensurately.

00:33:42.120 And so it's no longer the cult of the hero who has personal skill with arms becomes less important than the mass identity of the fighting force.

00:33:52.200 Yeah, exactly.

00:33:53.460 I mean I know I hammer Spengler a lot because Spengler is a goldmine and everyone here should read Spengler studying profusely.

00:33:59.680 And this is another thing he says again.

00:34:02.500 I mean you could take some of an example.

00:34:03.860 It's really insane.

00:34:04.480 I mean you have this Napoleon character, right, and there's different kind of Napoleons for different cultures, right?

00:34:11.840 I mean they're all homologous with our Napoleon, right? 0.79

00:34:14.820 So I mean in the ancient world it would be Alexander the Great and the Muslim world it was Mohammed, right? 1.00

00:34:20.220 Mohammed that swope against the Catholic Austrians being the Byzantines and the Persians. 0.99

00:34:26.080 And I mean we can see just the results of it today, right?

00:34:31.480 I mean just look at the two world wars, right, and compare it to medieval wars.

00:34:35.140 I mean it's so much higher casualties and all this stuff.

00:34:40.140 It's just insane.

00:34:41.880 When you have these whiny liberals, right, and they say, oh, there was so much war in the Middle Ages. 0.64

00:34:46.880 Yeah, look how destructive the wars are now.

00:34:50.340 But you know what?

00:34:50.820 At least we have democracy, right?

00:34:52.380 At least these millions of people died for freedom, freedom to die, freedom to turn yourself into ashes on the pile of fires of your own hedonism.

00:35:02.920 Yeah, that's the freedom you have.

00:35:06.100 Right.

00:35:06.600 Well, exactly.

00:35:07.600 This is the thing.

00:35:08.580 I mean even this is the – but I think to bring it back to your point, Greva, what you're expressing is that, yeah,

00:35:15.300 when you get this mechanization of life, when you get the construction of a machine that acts as an instrument of power magnification, you naturally –

00:35:25.460 It's death.

00:35:25.760 It's death, right.

00:35:27.400 Because it's more and more and more in the further and further degrees of separation.

00:35:31.640 Yeah, I mean last episode we said like that the essence of death is separation of soul and body, right?

00:35:37.400 And if you're just like this, this mindless drone operating machine all day, right, then unless you go like full Ernst Jünger anarch, then you are – you're essentially dead, right?

00:35:47.400 You're living dead. 0.99

00:35:48.180 You're a zombie. 1.00

00:35:48.780 You're literally a zombie. 1.00

00:35:49.620 You just do that all day, right?

00:35:51.440 And most of these –

00:35:52.820 If I may interrupt both of you gentlemen for a moment.

00:35:54.880 Yeah, go ahead, Doc.

00:35:56.740 It's interesting to note that if what we call usury, if economic modernity, capitalism, compound interest, if all of that derives ultimately from Neoplatonism, from classical antiquities, forms of magic,

00:36:20.760 I think it's interesting to note that the gods of the temples were machines in the classical antique world.

00:36:29.800 Explicitly, right?

00:36:30.680 That deus ex machina is the original system of the Antichrist.

00:36:39.560 You know, like we're – what we have today is a recapitulation of the degeneracy of the world of the Diodaci. 1.00

00:36:48.340 Yeah, I mean, you think about it, right?

00:36:50.840 I mean, what are you doing with this interest, right?

00:36:53.540 I mean, this money has got to go from somewhere, right?

00:36:56.820 So, I mean, you're kind of transmuting that otherness, whatever it is.

00:37:00.880 Maybe it's cheap.

00:37:02.040 Maybe it's – I don't know.

00:37:02.820 Maybe it's food.

00:37:03.720 Maybe it's properties, right?

00:37:06.140 You're transmuting the properties into gold, right?

00:37:08.800 You're making the property a part of the liquid market because you allow yourself to think about the property in terms of liquid gold, right?

00:37:17.340 And then there is more demand for gold, for money, for shekels, and therefore you can create more shekels, even if it's just fiat money, right?

00:37:24.320 So, you're transmuting everything that has organically grown up into shekels, right? 1.00

00:37:30.220 Well, I think you –

00:37:31.180 This is literally some sort of alchemical stuff.

00:37:34.220 This is – yeah, this is magicism.

00:37:37.320 Yeah, I mean, you're exactly right.

00:37:39.060 And to get kind of more precise with it, what's going on is if you've listened to our episode on Freemasonry and the Kabbalah with Dr. Raphael Johnson, we discuss in greater detail what goes on here.

00:37:50.560 But he talks about how alchemy was meant to be applied to humans, is that it was a spiritualization of the human energies and forces.

00:38:00.260 And so what occurs is the philosophy, the theology behind this is that through usury, you're able to extract gold from lead.

00:38:10.880 Because the process of usury, compound interest, is your demanding repayment of money of capital that did not exist in the first place when you loaned it out, either in liquid currency or in real capital.

00:38:25.660 And it's important to note that when we say liquid currency, for the ancient Germanics, the rune that depicted liquid currency was the same rune as the cow, right?

00:38:35.400 Liquid currency means movable capital, and capital – a real capital, not some sort of constructed thing – has to do with goods and services that are actually substantially of value.

00:38:47.480 So cows are, of course, a great – or slaves are another fantastic example – are great denominators of wealth.

00:38:55.100 And in fact, in the decadent ages of the – decadent days of the Roman Republic, the great oligarchs and landed magnates kept most of their liquid currency in slaves because it was surplus labor.

00:39:08.780 So usury is, in a sense, this alchemical, shadowy, esoteric process by which you're able to generate this money out of nowhere.

00:39:18.860 Where does the – like, think about it like this.

00:39:20.820 I mean, just very basically, if you put money in a savings account and you're generating interest on it, where is that money coming from?

00:39:30.300 You know, the bank is not giving you back the money that it's used to reinvest, the profit and the reinvestment.

00:39:36.740 It's not allocating you a share of that.

00:39:39.820 It's not commensurate.

00:39:41.240 You know, the bank – with fractional reserve banking, right, the amount of loans that they give out is not commensurate to the amount of, you know, money that they actually have in the bank account to begin with.

00:39:48.780 So it's literally just created it out of thin air, right, is my point.

00:39:51.420 Florian, you're being too nice to the banks because the inflation is higher than interest in a way.

00:39:57.900 So they're basically sifting away that as well.

00:40:00.160 Right.

00:40:03.000 But, yeah, I mean, you're correct.

00:40:05.520 I reserve myself that the slaves were used only because they were workers because I think it's more morbid than that.

00:40:11.500 I mean, Spengler, again, Spengler, I know I talk a lot about Spengler, but he was even more morbid about when it comes to the ancient slaves in Rome and stuff.

00:40:21.760 Because the Romans had this mentality of everything must be a body, right? 0.92

00:40:25.560 Everything must be physical.

00:40:27.040 You must see it.

00:40:27.720 You must feel it.

00:40:28.260 It must be something direct, a sort of center, right?

00:40:31.900 And because they saw money as, how should I put it, centralized power, right?

00:40:37.860 It's power centralized in a coin, in a dot, in a circle, right?

00:40:41.920 The human body would be the same thing.

00:40:44.400 Because, I mean, what is as, you know, as much of a body than a human body, right?

00:40:49.220 So the human body in and of itself on virtue of being a human body was seen as worth rather than the produce it could actually do.

00:40:58.460 Now that's, now we're going into the very, very anti-Christian stuff.

00:41:04.440 Well, yeah.

00:41:05.380 Well, when this is what happens, to kind of get back to your point.

00:41:08.580 I mean, one of the points that Dostoevsky even is that, I mean, what right do you have to literally rule over someone else?

00:41:15.400 Not as in, how should I put it, enlightened leadership, but as tyranny, right?

00:41:21.060 Because if you're both in the image and likeness of God, right, we're supposed to have a sort of soberness between each other.

00:41:25.500 We're supposed to, I'm supposed to, to willingly submit to you and you are supposed to use your authority to lead me, right?

00:41:33.980 That's how we're supposed to work.

00:41:36.320 But in this situation, with these slaves, right?

00:41:40.040 These slaves that are just essentially gold coins, but can talk, right?

00:41:45.400 We're, we're, it's not really that at all.

00:41:50.020 It's just, you're a machine, you're a thing, you're not even a human being.

00:41:53.760 You're literally just a, a tool, right?

00:41:56.100 You're not even a tool, you're just a subject, right?

00:41:57.760 You're something to be shaped however they want, right?

00:42:00.600 And then you have ideologies, right?

00:42:01.960 And, and this, this radical revolutionary mentality, right?

00:42:04.740 We can change the world.

00:42:06.440 We will change human nature.

00:42:08.100 We will turn this society into heaven on earth and la-di-da-di-da-di-da-di-da.

00:42:14.340 And we can see the same thing really on the right as well.

00:42:17.780 I want to be serious for more now, and I don't want you to interrupt me, even though I've spoken for quite a while and interrupted you a couple of times today.

00:42:25.540 No, seriously.

00:42:26.400 I mean, if you start to idolize ideology, even if that ideology is, I don't know, fascism, national socialism or whatever, right?

00:42:32.540 If you start to idolize the ideology, you're losing God, right?

00:42:37.280 You're like Abraham who refused to go to the mountain, just leaving Isaac running around all day, and then Isaac died out of cancer or something a week later.

00:42:47.640 That goes too far as to say that we must realize that everything we get now in terms of migration and essentially civilization of death right now is something we deserve and we should embrace it.

00:43:00.740 Not in the sense of the black will play, that everything is lost and da-di-da-di-da. 0.87

00:43:05.620 No, not like that at all.

00:43:07.560 We should embrace it and realize that what we have right now in terms of civilization, in terms of culture, in terms of even nationality, even in terms of, I suppose, race.

00:43:17.820 By the way, I'm not saying we should race mates.

00:43:20.680 I'm saying that we should essentially go to the mountain and sacrifice Isaac.

00:43:25.660 We should stop caring about, put the primary care on preserving our civilization and rather to accept our punishment, to go to the police officer, like Raskolko did after he murdered that woman, right?

00:43:40.220 And then we will find peace.

00:43:41.660 And you know what?

00:43:42.180 Maybe you won't even be wiped out because I think that in order to find God, we need to accept the punishment, right?

00:43:47.880 And we need to realize that we deserve the punishment.

00:43:49.660 And then you can't get warped up in ideologies and constantly chant, 1488, da-da!

00:43:56.720 Because, I mean, while it's a healthy reaction, it is, and I'm not going to sit here and, like, pretentious to sip red wine.

00:44:03.700 My point is that if you put ideology before God, then you're essentially killing yourself.

00:44:08.360 Well, yeah, and I think that, Grieva, I think that you're correct in the essence is that ideology is a manifestation of something beyond itself.

00:44:21.500 Ideology is the political instantiation.

00:44:23.240 Yeah, ideology is the man trying to define good rather than God.

00:44:26.060 Oh, sorry, I interrupted you.

00:44:27.040 Ideology is the political, in the ideal form, is the political instantiation of law, of order, of logos, of the cosmic order, if you will.

00:44:39.900 And so why are we, you know, this is a question I've been thinking about recently, but it's like this.

00:44:45.040 No, no, it's not.

00:44:46.000 It's not.

00:44:46.680 How can it be?

00:44:47.420 Because an ideology is in its very nature an intellectual construct, right?

00:44:50.240 This intellectual construct can at best try to see.

00:44:54.520 Grieva, what is ideology?

00:44:55.740 Yeah, it's an intellectual construct.

00:44:58.760 What else is it?

00:44:59.820 Can you be more precise in your definition?

00:45:01.640 Gentlemen.

00:45:02.280 Gentlemen.

00:45:02.520 Gentlemen.

00:45:03.280 Gentlemen.

00:45:03.520 Gentlemen.

00:45:04.040 Gentlemen.

00:45:05.600 Okay?

00:45:06.440 So here we have a degraded form of ideology, which is just as much an abstract mental idol, as Grieva says.

00:45:14.380 And there is an ideal, an elevated form of ideology, as Florian describes it, which is a particular image of the universal logos for a particular racial, ethnic spirit.

00:45:31.520 All right?

00:45:32.520 All right?

00:45:32.800 Right.

00:45:33.080 Both ways are properly so-called ideologies, but we're talking about very different things.

00:45:41.260 In the same way that, you know, you can have a degenerate empire of moneylenders like America, or you can have a holy empire under a holy king who is an icon for his people and a father for his people.

00:46:02.620 And these are not the same thing, but they're both properly called empire.

00:46:08.980 Yes, right.

00:46:09.380 Yes, and this is what I was...

00:46:10.380 Let's say you have the holy empire, so to speak, the holy Roman empire, whatever.

00:46:16.000 I mean, even here, the king is a man, his vassal is a man, and nothing like that.

00:46:22.460 So you're not going to have a perfect utopia.

00:46:24.720 And what I see the problem is, is that you have this sort of ideological utopianism.

00:46:28.780 Oh, if we do this, we will have a perfect utopia.

00:46:29.700 Grieva, I think he's agreeing with you, and I think that you're arguing around yourself, basically.

00:46:35.980 I think that, obviously, I agree with you 100%, and I also agree with you, Grieva Hans, to make things clear and not trip up over ourselves.

00:46:44.340 The issue is that, yes, obviously, ideology and the ideal is the instantiation of the cosmic order into the political, but human beings are corrupted, and so that's never perfect.

00:46:55.260 We're sinful.

00:46:56.660 And the point is, is that we engage in political action that we might live.

00:47:01.660 We don't live that we might engage in political action, right?

00:47:05.040 No, but why should...

00:47:06.120 No, seriously.

00:47:07.300 Okay, political action.

00:47:08.720 Okay, well, okay, here we've got to make a distinction.

00:47:11.400 Is the political action in and of itself actually hinting at that ideal, or is it not?

00:47:16.240 Maybe I'm being cynical, maybe I'm being black-pailed, or whatever, but I don't think it does.

00:47:19.760 Okay, like, Grieva, like, asserting that, you know, for instance, your country shouldn't be flooded with immigrants. 1.00

00:47:24.520 That supports the cosmic order.

00:47:26.520 That supports God.

00:47:28.140 Okay, well, sure, it shouldn't be.

00:47:30.720 Sweden shouldn't be flooded, but why is it being flooded?

00:47:32.920 It's because we abandoned God, right?

00:47:34.940 So there's a whole crux of the situation.

00:47:36.840 But obviously, part of obeying God is fulfilling justice.

00:47:46.780 And it is not just to say, we must accept...

00:47:53.840 Look, I get what you're saying.

00:47:57.620 You must accept these immigrants, because you do have a duty to defend your kinsmen, even if you and your kinsmen also have a blood debt that must be paid off. 0.99

00:48:10.480 Yes, I agree, Doc, but here's the thing, though.

00:48:14.060 We have free will, right?

00:48:15.080 And we have the free will, and we have the free choice. 1.00

00:48:17.120 And we have the free choice to do stupid stuff. 1.00

00:48:19.060 But if we do stupid stuff, we deserve the consequences of doing stupid stuff, especially if we as a nation do not repent of it. 0.99

00:48:24.960 So, in that sense, I'm saying that what we have now is something we deserve. 0.98

00:48:32.020 It's not something that's good for us.

00:48:35.100 That is, it's not something that is pleasant for us.

00:48:36.880 It's something we should avoid.

00:48:38.500 But you know what?

00:48:39.000 We're not avoiding it, because we're still banging our head against a brick wall that is the law of God.

00:48:44.160 And we're only getting results of it right now.

00:48:46.480 So, how will we define good here?

00:48:49.060 I don't think anybody is challenging God, so then we are not to define good, because good already exists.

00:48:57.600 This is what we deserve.

00:48:59.080 This is a good world.

00:49:00.460 And God exists because he is punishing Sweden. 0.95

00:49:04.740 Greva, I don't think that anybody is challenging that point.

00:49:06.980 You know, without getting too much more into the muck, I think that the takeaway here for our listeners is that you can worship your politics, essentially.

00:49:22.620 It can become your religion.

00:49:24.040 And, you know, your political positions become, in a sense, the core and center of your identity and frame everything else about your life.

00:49:32.280 But that's not healthy.

00:49:33.880 That's not healthy at all.

00:49:35.440 That's the center of your life.

00:49:37.480 You're supposed to be filled by religion, essentially. 0.71

00:49:40.520 Your religious beliefs that you act out with, you know, serious ethics, metaphysics, ritual, right?

00:49:46.160 These are the things that are supposed to inform your worldview and every, you know, the smallest details of your action, the framework of your life.

00:49:54.060 But if you basically, yeah, if you put politics there instead of God, who is, you know, obviously Jesus Christ is God, he is himself, order.

00:50:06.260 If you put politics there, you become guilty of idolatry because you place what is worldly above what is godly.

00:50:12.780 And I think that that's what Greva is saying, and that what we're doing is that when our nations are guilty of transgressing God's law, 1.00

00:50:19.560 and we're getting bad results because of it, natural law is acting against us because we're stupid. 0.98

00:50:26.060 And we have to understand that and accept it. 1.00

00:50:28.260 Just know that this is a manifestation of, you know, justice because we're stupid. 1.00

00:50:32.760 Stupid things are happening. 1.00

00:50:34.720 Nobody's disagreeing with you there, Greva. 1.00

00:50:37.260 That's good.

00:50:37.820 That's good.

00:50:38.360 I just wanted to clear up one thing.

00:50:39.900 Maybe we're agreeing.

00:50:40.720 Maybe we're not agreeing.

00:50:41.620 I just want to see if it's, you know, on the same side here.

00:50:45.280 Right.

00:50:45.520 Politics.

00:50:45.940 You're talking about politics.

00:50:46.640 How is politics the right way to go about this at all?

00:50:50.200 How is politics in any way meaningful?

00:50:53.120 I mean, shouldn't we respect?

00:50:54.320 Okay, political action.

00:50:55.320 Let me finish at least.

00:50:55.840 Let me finish at least, then you can bash me, right?

00:50:58.420 Let me finish first.

00:51:00.220 Because, right, politics, right now, our nation has decided to bash its head against the brick wall of Christ, right?

00:51:07.960 So what would political action really do?

00:51:09.800 It would just be, in my perspective, it would be, in my perspective, it would be like cursing God as we're smite down into the abyss, right?

00:51:17.880 Because they all are free will, right?

00:51:20.200 And they are created with free will, and they are created with a free will to go to hell if they so desire, right?

00:51:25.060 But, I mean, I would argue that the way you would save Sweden, the way you would save America, the way you would save any European nation, isn't at all for political action.

00:51:34.640 I think political action is in and of itself a trap.

00:51:36.780 I think the way you would save a nation is to convert to Christianity. 1.00

00:51:41.680 No, fuck ideologies. 1.00

00:51:43.100 To hell with politics. 1.00

00:51:44.840 Let's just convert, and we don't have to worry about politics.

00:51:47.540 No one here is saying that we're going to vote our way out of this.

00:51:52.700 I'm certainly not saying that.

00:51:53.680 No, neither am I.

00:51:54.760 That's laughable.

00:51:56.140 Please.

00:51:57.400 I mean, what we're saying.

00:51:58.880 No, I know that.

00:51:59.920 I'm not even talking about voting yourself.

00:52:01.560 I don't know.

00:52:01.840 I'm talking about political action as in and of itself.

00:52:04.180 I mean, how can it be good if you do not have Christ?

00:52:06.900 I mean, how can you?

00:52:09.460 Okay, because you can enforce the cosmic order whether you are a Christian or not. 0.86

00:52:13.560 So somebody who, you know, like if somebody murders somebody else in China and the Chinese state hangs him, that's just whether, you know, they're fulfilling Christ's will whether they worship him or not.

00:52:26.040 But the point is that what is political, okay?

00:52:30.600 Politics has to do with the governance of men in the social realm, okay?

00:52:36.340 The way we regulate our conduct, the way we regulate our conduct is always going to have political implications because of that.

00:52:43.560 And so my point is just that, like, obviously convert to Christianity, yes.

00:52:49.260 Obviously that's the solution.

00:52:50.700 That nobody is rebuking you on that point.

00:52:54.040 And I think everybody here agrees with this exactly.

00:52:55.940 But the point is that once you convert –

00:52:58.560 Okay, okay.

00:52:59.360 Men are naturally political animals.

00:53:01.760 Everything we do is political.

00:53:03.900 And as Christians, we do everything as Christians.

00:53:07.060 We can't just not do politics.

00:53:09.480 It's impossible because everything we do is political.

00:53:12.100 So in as much as we do politics, they have to be Christian politics. 0.61

00:53:15.860 When you're saying politics, what do you mean with politics?

00:53:17.880 Exactly what are you defining with politics?

00:53:19.560 So we're on the same page.

00:53:21.100 Well, politics is a fancy way of saying human social interaction.

00:53:26.460 That's really all it is.

00:53:27.860 It's this thing that we do together.

00:53:30.840 And so, you know, put – the only way not to have politics is to have one man and one man only.

00:53:39.220 And even then I'm not sure.

00:53:41.540 You know, maybe – yeah, maybe if it's only one man, he probably goes schizophrenic, right?

00:53:47.260 Yeah, maybe we like arguing polemics.

00:53:49.440 Maybe we're not arguing polemics.

00:53:51.060 I don't know.

00:53:51.600 At this point, it's too late for me to figure out if that's the truth or not.

00:53:55.500 Anyway, I think we're on the same page, Kadeeva.

00:53:57.340 So I don't think you need to fear for –

00:53:59.860 Maybe, maybe not.

00:54:01.300 I don't really know.

00:54:02.180 We'll see.

00:54:03.400 Well, anyway, hopefully our listeners comprehend what we're trying to get across.

00:54:08.280 So we've got 10 more minutes before the break.

00:54:11.320 So I think there's a couple more things that I wanted to discuss with you, Siri.

00:54:15.020 So, yeah, before we got into that big kind of tangent, what – and what also happens is that with currency,

00:54:23.340 when currency moves from being a precious metal, which has value because it's a commodity that's in demand, right?

00:54:31.500 But it's not – in it itself, it does not have utility, aside from a spiritual significance, you could say.

00:54:40.760 You move to further levels of abstraction with banknotes, right?

00:54:45.000 And so we get – in the modern system where we have not just – it's not just banknotes, which are representations of money, gold-backed currency.

00:54:52.160 It's fiat currency, so it just is supposed to be a stand-in token for labor, right, of the exertion of human beings to produce goods and services and things which facilitate that action.

00:55:05.320 And so this is what occurs over time is as the financial system gets more complicated, more detached from natural law, the sort of wizard's tower builds himself up, to use that metaphor.

00:55:19.960 You see these further levels of abstraction from real capital.

00:55:24.780 That's not to say that this is inherently a bad thing.

00:55:27.060 Paper money can be a good thing if it's applied for the cosmic order.

00:55:31.420 But the problem is that's obviously not – never been the motivation for its creation.

00:55:35.020 That's really never been how it's been employed outside of a few instances like Germany in the 30s and so on.

00:55:42.520 And this is – it's actually a good point to make here that this – the – when Hitler broke Germany away from international finance, this is one of the big reasons why World War II occurred. 0.54

00:55:57.220 Russia did something similar in World War I, although through stroke of a chance, Russia ended up in an alliance with Great Britain and so rather bled itself to death and succumbed to revolution through warfare with Germany rather than the usurers themselves. 0.51

00:56:19.620 What a coincidence.

00:56:20.660 Oy, nay, what a blued board.

00:56:26.720 Yeah.

00:56:27.540 So, you know, and I think that that's basically what's going on is that, you know, the more – the financial magic and the technological magic, so to speak, as they both get more complicated, you get depersonalization.

00:56:41.480 The humans become like machines.

00:56:48.580 They become – they lose their wholeness, their sacredness.

00:56:54.220 They lose the likeness of God and become like drones, animals, machines. 0.93

00:56:58.340 As you say.

00:56:59.280 As you say.

00:57:00.080 They lose their inherent human dignity.

00:57:01.340 And this is one of the central messages of Christianity that sets it apart from, like, paganism or other religions is that it makes the kind of – a fairly radical claim that human beings, qua-human beings, are in the image and likeness of God.

00:57:16.420 That there is some sort of core human dignity, you know, that one cannot transgress around, so to speak.

00:57:25.640 Yeah, I mean, yeah, but there's a tiny difference between the two.

00:57:29.100 I mean, being in the image of God is innate to being a human, right? 0.94

00:57:34.560 You don't stop being in the image of God even when you turn into a godless atheist sodomite. 1.00

00:57:40.440 You're not – you don't have the likeness, though. 0.99

00:57:42.960 Of course, yes.

00:57:44.300 Yeah.

00:57:45.500 Yes, yes, parenthesis.

00:57:46.840 Now we continue.

00:57:48.160 Right.

00:57:48.660 Well, the difference is, yeah.

00:57:49.640 I mean, the image is like the pattern, you know, that you exist as the pattern and emanation of the cosmic order.

00:57:56.600 You have free will.

00:57:57.480 You have a soul.

00:57:58.080 You have free choice.

00:57:58.800 I can't stop it.

00:57:59.160 Et cetera.

00:57:59.560 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:58:00.340 You have a mind, a rational mind and all these things.

00:58:03.360 You know, but you can either choose to conform that to the highest good or you can not do that, which is what we all do all the time, just to varying degrees.

00:58:14.100 And, yeah, I mean, this is the – I mean, so this is the thing.

00:58:18.880 So the gospel of Christianity is that Christ has died on the cross and has defeated death.

00:58:25.240 And because of his death and resurrection, by entering into the Christian mysteries, baptism, and the Eucharist, we can obtain eternal life and become sons of God like Christ was.

00:58:36.140 And just like Christ, by being sons of God, we will be resurrected when we die.

00:58:41.200 We don't have to fear death.

00:58:43.000 And what's more, after we're resurrected, we will become as Christ was in everything.

00:58:46.940 We will become divinized, glorified with the divine energies, filled with the heavenly light, the grace of the Holy Spirit.

00:58:57.600 And so on earth, we're corrupted, right?

00:59:01.380 So we have to deal with the effects of Adam's original sin.

00:59:03.780 But we're called to act upon these things, instantiate them as we exist now to whatever extent that we can.

00:59:10.240 And so obviously we're sinful, but we have to try and perfect ourselves.

00:59:13.100 And so the reason why this is important is because this perfection, if we're being serious Christians where our whole life is informed by our worldview, it affects every area of our life.

00:59:24.920 And so politics and economics and these different issues, we don't stop being a Christian when we engage in these actions.

00:59:32.880 We don't have to stop thinking about these things in terms of Christ.

00:59:37.820 And what's more is that these things ought to become divinized if we're at all able to do so.

00:59:43.100 You know, I think everything can be summed up with we just need more common sense.

00:59:49.480 We don't need fancy economic theories.

00:59:51.520 We don't need some fancy Third Reich economic theory.

00:59:55.520 We don't need any of that stuff.

00:59:56.700 We just need common sense because common sense in and of itself is divine.

01:00:00.600 So there you go.

01:00:03.180 That's a good point.

01:00:04.420 And one thing I do want to add on the question of usury is that one of – it strikes me that we need to stop thinking of money, qual money as wealth.

01:00:21.740 And that – for a long time, that's always bothered me.

01:00:25.620 What money is, is a means of exchange.

01:00:28.960 You have something.

01:00:29.960 I want it.

01:00:30.980 So I will give you the money and you will give me the thing that I want.

01:00:33.620 The thing that I want is the actual wealth.

01:00:35.560 That's the good that I wish to secure.

01:00:38.280 The money is just a means of enabling transactions within a group of people such that no one's left out.

01:00:51.340 You know, that you don't have – you don't have someone who ends up being taken advantage of because you still have these trade tokens.

01:01:01.320 And so, you know, I got the thing that I want.

01:01:03.500 Now the person that I gave the money to is able to go get the things that he wants.

01:01:09.480 And so I don't know if I'm making sense, but like –

01:01:16.320 Well, yeah.

01:01:17.220 The money issue is that –

01:01:18.380 The capital, the tools that I use to feed myself and my family, that's capital.

01:01:23.660 Right.

01:01:23.920 Exactly.

01:01:24.720 That's exactly what I want to say.

01:01:26.280 Money is a stand-in for that.

01:01:28.320 Yeah.

01:01:28.640 A means of exchange.

01:01:29.460 Because when it's liquid, right, movable, it can be converted from one form of capital to another quickly.

01:01:34.900 So you can buy like a cow or like a steak and you can also buy, you know, a car or a house and so on. 0.55

01:01:42.920 Well, that would be a very shitty car. 0.70

01:01:47.640 Oh, wow. 0.96

01:01:48.500 It depends on how much money I suppose.

01:01:50.300 But I mean, so, the black magic comes into play when, you know, like the magician glamorizes, entrances you with the money instead of the thing that you wanted.

01:02:07.620 Right?

01:02:08.540 You know, and he lies to you essentially and says the money is what's important.

01:02:13.940 Yeah, you're correct, Doc.

01:02:16.020 I mean, just take the example of a career woman, right? 0.99

01:02:21.000 They chase their career.

01:02:22.060 They think they want the career.

01:02:23.580 And you have these, you know, team-building culture, right?

01:02:26.940 If they see if that woman wants to quit. 1.00

01:02:29.500 Oh, we got to be nicer to her so she stays, right?

01:02:31.860 They have this whole mentality, right?

01:02:33.400 And what was my point?

01:02:37.040 My point was that that's a really, really clear example because they don't really want that.

01:02:41.740 I mean, it's kind of obvious due to their biology, right?

01:02:45.420 They want children, whether they realize it or not, right?

01:02:49.020 And in order to get children, you need to raise them as well.

01:02:53.140 I mean, you need, you know, you need to get pregnant also, but you need to raise them afterwards, right? 0.99

01:02:58.300 And that takes time, right?

01:02:59.280 And then you can't really have like this super fancy schmancy career, right?

01:03:03.720 I mean, just imagine a super successful career woman, right? 1.00

01:03:07.740 What would happen if she would have a child? 0.77

01:03:11.100 Well, essentially, she would have to take a break for a while, right?

01:03:14.240 And you know what?

01:03:15.200 Maybe she will lose momentum.

01:03:17.960 And you know what?

01:03:18.800 Maybe she won't be that super career woman anymore. 1.00

01:03:21.460 And maybe she will have to be set back five, ten years or so, right?

01:03:25.980 So what happens if she doesn't have children, right?

01:03:28.180 Or maybe very few children or, well, very step-portion clinic as well.

01:03:36.260 Sacrifice the child to Moloch for a better career.

01:03:38.240 Well, yeah.

01:03:38.740 I mean, it's the question, like, why do we labor, right?

01:03:40.880 Why do we work?

01:03:42.660 You know, why do you pursue a career, right?

01:03:44.200 Is it for your ego, like, to flatter yourself and to make yourself feel good?

01:03:47.880 I mean, or is it for something beyond that, right?

01:03:50.460 And so on the very basic biological level, there's natural transcendence in children.

01:03:55.060 And this is – animals understand this, right?

01:03:58.100 They don't – you know, engage – their religious activity, their sacramental mystery is, in a sense, procreation.

01:04:03.100 It's not a joke.

01:04:04.780 Because for us, it is as well.

01:04:06.060 That's why for Christians, marriage, we've talked about before, marriage is a holy mystery like baptism or the Eucharist.

01:04:10.820 The marital act is the generator of new life.

01:04:14.020 This is the foundation of sexual ethics.

01:04:16.140 And so with animals, they understand this instinctively.

01:04:18.400 Yeah, exactly, exactly.

01:04:20.380 You're right.

01:04:21.240 And so this is the thing.

01:04:22.240 But if you don't – you know, if you work to support your family, like, that's what you're seeking.

01:04:26.460 You're channeling towards the higher good.

01:04:29.020 But you can work for something even beyond that.

01:04:31.600 You can work for supernatural ends, right?

01:04:35.060 For your own salvation, it would be the best one.

01:04:38.680 The rational self-interest thing to do.

01:04:41.540 I mean, to get back to the whole essence of the whole thing, then, what we need is common self-right.

01:04:46.180 You need to see that that is destructive.

01:04:48.900 And if common sense in and of itself is divine, right, then common sense is kind of like seeing what lays behind the appearance, right?

01:04:59.320 Right, the appearance is you want the career, right?

01:05:01.240 But what lays behind that?

01:05:02.760 What lays behind that is that you actually want the child, right?

01:05:04.820 So we can –

01:05:07.080 Exactly.

01:05:07.300 And if common sense is divine, then you can only get common sense through the church, right?

01:05:13.720 Because the church is the main spring of everything like that on earth, right?

01:05:17.820 So, again, then we shouldn't really focus on politics.

01:05:21.620 We shouldn't focus on Isaac.

01:05:22.740 We should focus on sacrificing Isaac.

01:05:24.440 We should focus on ignoring politics and focus on the church.

01:05:27.440 Well, I think that it's not that we should ignore politics or we should focus on it, but rather that we should be Christians and the political should be a manifestation of that.

01:05:38.740 Yeah, we'll be stuck here for 20 minutes talking probably semantics, and I won't be alert enough to realize if it's semantics.

01:05:45.080 It's a good time to get a break, perhaps, anyway.

01:05:47.800 Yes, it is.

01:05:48.740 So, our listeners, we've come to the end of our first hour.

01:05:50.860 I hope you liked our special guest.

01:05:52.820 Hopefully, he'll come on soon for a greater in-depth discussion about political control and sexuality.

01:06:02.220 So, stay tuned.

01:06:03.600 Thank you.

01:06:03.620 Thank you.

01:06:03.640 Thank you.

01:06:03.680 Thank you.

01:06:32.220 Thank you.

01:06:55.680 Thank you.

01:06:57.740 Thank you.

01:06:59.380 Shalom.

01:07:29.380 Небесческая сила, несите по честь всех светов.

01:07:41.560 Бравуйся, Небесну и Небесная, честнейшая, Малычице всем Небесных Твоих.

01:08:00.220 Бравуйся, Небесну и Небесная, всем бравоцер надежду, пророков, Исну не нет.

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01:09:47.840 Бравуйся, Небесну и Небесная, в мудрой сердце помощи, не будьте Бога слова.

01:10:17.820 Бравуйся, Небесная, в мудрой сердце помощи, не будьте Бога слова.

01:10:19.820 Бравуйся, Небесная, в мудрой сердце помощи, не будьте Бога слова.

01:10:21.820 Бравуйся, Небесная, в мудрой сердце помощи, не будьте Бога слова.

01:10:23.820 Бравуйся, Небесная, в мудрой сердце помощи, не будьте Бога слова.

01:10:25.820 Бравуйся, Небесная, в мудрой сердце помощи, не будьте Бога слова.

01:10:27.820 Бравуйся, Небесная, в мудрой сердце помощи, не будьте Бога слова.

01:10:29.820 Бравуйся, Небесная, в мудрой сердце помощи, не будьте Бога слова.

01:10:33.820 Бравуйся, Небесная, в мудрой сердце помощи, не будьте Бога слова.

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01:10:39.820 Бравуйся, Небесная, в мудрой сердце помощи, не будьте Бога слова.

01:11:09.820 Бравуйся, Небесная, в мудрой сердце помощи, не будьте Бога слова.

01:11:39.820 Бравуйся, Небесная, в мудрой сердце помощи, не будьте Бога слова.

01:12:09.800 Бравуйся, Небесная, в мудрой сердце помощи, не будьте Бога слова.

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01:12:24.800 So we're going to talk about a few more selected points on usury, and then we're going to discuss Christianity and its implications in your worldview and your lifestyle and that kind of thing, and how that affects political action.

01:12:39.940 We touched on that a little bit before the break.

01:12:41.640 So one of the things about usury and debt in general is that with the – in our modern age, there has been a total normalization of the debt economy, that it's not – nobody bats an eye that – I'll give you a good example.

01:13:00.160 When Justin Trudeau was first elected in Canada, we went from having a mostly balanced budget under Harper – that is to say that we were in debt, but we were not borrowing money actively in order to fund the government – to having a $600 million deficit in the first month.

01:13:19.040 One month. I'm not joking. $600 million.

01:13:21.720 Wow. $600 million.

01:13:23.960 $600 million. That means you're borrowing $600 million a month in order to pay for the government, taking on that much –

01:13:28.680 Right, I mean, to be honest, we're doing that right now here in Sweden with immigration rights, because, I mean, it's so huge expenses, right, that we take per capita in most in entire Europe rights, probably because we deserve it. 0.99

01:13:39.320 We deserve this because we are so degenerates. We deserve all this. It's a slap in the face from God.

01:13:45.260 But the point is, it's a scornical, really. I mean, they are essentially enslaving my generation to debt slavery to try to pay back this huge debt, right?

01:13:59.740 That is, assuming the system survives, while at the same time trying to create this sort of mix of the Orientals and, you know, the Europeans that would kind of make Alexander the Great kind of proud, right? 0.95

01:14:14.160 I mean, it's essentially what they're doing right here.

01:14:17.040 And, I mean, they are, like, giving money from the Swedes, right, that work, and give it to Bobo, who doesn't work, right?

01:14:24.160 So, they kind of equalize, you know, the two parts, right? So, they can just get by, right? They can manage, yeah?

01:14:33.140 They don't need to save up money, da-da-da, that's what loans are for.

01:14:37.500 And that's another thing, right? I mean, if you look at, well, if you look at house prices, right?

01:14:43.380 I mean, unless you're rich, you won't be able to buy a house, right?

01:14:46.940 You won't be able to build a house with cash.

01:14:50.000 You're going to have to loan that money, really.

01:14:55.160 Yeah.

01:14:56.560 And we just look at rents as well.

01:14:59.460 I mean, rents, I really think rents is, in many ways, another part of you, because I know for a fact that a rent my family paid when I was younger was enough that if we combined the years we lived in that apartment, we could probably buy the apartment itself for that money.

01:15:24.160 Yeah. Well, obviously, it's a racket.

01:15:26.400 Exactly. I mean, that's the term rent. I mean, in economics means, you know, money extracted for no services. That's what it means.

01:15:34.880 Obviously, in, you know, you have use, the service is the use of the apartment. But in many of these places, it's, the prices are absurd in Sweden, as I know that that's the case.

01:15:44.480 And this is the thing I want to do, but I want to do, my point is, it's good that we kind of got on the tangent back to the main point, is that, you know, this idea that it's acceptable.

01:15:51.840 It's perfectly acceptable to borrow hundreds of millions, billions, trillions, trillions of dollars to fund government operation, you know, enterprise, infrastructure.

01:16:01.680 Like, you know, we don't have to worry about paying it back.

01:16:05.720 That's just not, they're not just...

01:16:07.020 We're investing in the future.

01:16:07.580 Exactly. Well, you know, we're investing in the future and, you know, it doesn't really matter. There's no adverse effects will occur.

01:16:13.280 I mean, just common sense, basic common sense.

01:16:17.280 It's not a... And this is the thing that's shocking, is that people just, they don't...

01:16:20.920 It's the status quo is so firmly entrenched that it doesn't register to people, to bureaucrats, to politicians, to political people, that it's wrong to run a government in this fashion.

01:16:31.680 That this economy is unsustainable by definition.

01:16:35.860 It's based on debt.

01:16:37.740 Not real capital, not polite action, right?

01:16:39.840 You're being a negative Nancy.

01:16:43.280 This money comes from other people, right?

01:16:47.100 And this other... This is not my money.

01:16:48.940 This is other people's money, right?

01:16:50.820 And you know what? It won't be really super, super dangerous, because I, as a politician, I don't lose any money, right?

01:16:57.320 I don't lose any money, so everything is fine, Florian.

01:16:59.580 You're being a negative Nancy.

01:17:02.480 Yeah, you got me. Good evening, it's true.

01:17:05.480 I am a negative Nancy.

01:17:07.440 Doc, are you back with us?

01:17:10.500 Hello? Hello? Can you gentlemen hear me?

01:17:12.320 We can hear your phone.

01:17:13.080 Yes.

01:17:13.440 You sound great.

01:17:15.920 Yeah, it's really distressing how normal this financialization of everything has become.

01:17:23.300 To the point where normal people can't live their lives without partaking in the financialization of everything.

01:17:33.800 You can barely buy a house or even normal tools to do your normal working class job without taking out a loan or buying on credit or somehow participating in the financialization of everything.

01:17:52.300 Right. Well, this is the thing.

01:17:54.480 The other issue is that because of industrialization and inflation, the costs of living has gone up so much.

01:18:08.620 You know, it's so palpable compared to our ancestors, right?

01:18:13.220 You know, like the real wages in the United States have been decreasing, have been decreasing and have been stagnant since the 1970s while inflation has been increasing dramatically.

01:18:26.820 Exactly. And so the – and this is the height of irony that, you know, in order to like to raise a family, you need all of this money for this expensive, you know, property and infrastructure and so on.

01:18:37.120 The irony is that this mechanization was supposed to make this cheaper because labor was supposed to be more efficient.

01:18:43.880 That was meant, you know – and in some ways it does, obviously.

01:18:49.460 You know, in some ways it does.

01:18:51.120 But, you know, in terms of how many people are actually able to afford, you know, afford it, it's, you know, low.

01:18:58.340 Low, obviously.

01:19:02.840 Hmm.

01:19:03.200 And, I mean, another thing which I think is really, really absurd and frightening is how you can attach a shekel tag to essentially everything right now.

01:19:12.580 I mean, just look at those Japanese hug cafes, right?

01:19:15.780 You're paying for a hug.

01:19:17.000 You're paying for some sort of human contact with another person.

01:19:20.440 And this is getting more and more absurd.

01:19:22.000 I mean, maybe, maybe I'm – maybe I'm – I won't be surprised if the whole escort service being distinct from just a normal prostitute is relatively new-ish as well.

01:19:36.540 It's probably not, but I think that it's becoming more common because in that sense you would still have – I mean, you would at that point kind of have the vague idea of a relationship that's not based on money, right?

01:19:49.160 But, yeah, I mean, you're trying to kid yourself that's not what it is.

01:19:52.540 Whereas in a prostitute it's kind of more obvious, right? 0.97

01:19:54.960 A normal prostitute does this. 1.00

01:19:56.560 You know, local – and, yeah, you know, Japanese hug cafes. 0.79

01:20:03.220 I mean, it's essentially the same thing, right?

01:20:04.900 And, I mean, the whole – I mean, we talked about this in another episode about the girlfriend bot the Japanese have, right? 0.77

01:20:11.620 Yeah.

01:20:11.980 They're trying to make the most basic human interactions, mechanized, prized.

01:20:17.520 Yeah, there's a good example.

01:20:19.060 Let me just say one more thing, actually.

01:20:23.280 In Sweden there's some feminists screaming about how women should be paid by their husbands for, like, cleaning the home and that kind of stuff. 1.00

01:20:36.900 And then they can be taxed.

01:20:38.480 And then they can be taxed, right?

01:20:41.500 You know, it would be hilarious, right?

01:20:42.760 And then instead we're going to get more money.

01:20:44.700 But you know what?

01:20:45.660 I would get a new handbag, and that's most important.

01:20:49.560 I don't care if we don't have diapers for the children.

01:20:53.240 Maybe we'll just have one children instead of three.

01:20:55.620 That wouldn't solve it.

01:20:56.640 Then I can get my handbag.

01:20:58.280 Then I can get my yacht.

01:20:59.720 I'll name it Chiron.

01:21:00.760 Through remembrance, in remembrance of all the children I aborted.

01:21:04.480 I just get pretty dark with you pretty quickly, Dava.

01:21:09.180 Like, I don't – sometimes we can't really have regular conversations.

01:21:14.520 I understand.

01:21:15.520 If I was living in Sweden, I don't even know what I would be like.

01:21:19.360 I thought about this the other day.

01:21:20.440 Well, it's not really much that.

01:21:21.800 It's just Scandinavians have morbid humor.

01:21:24.780 You're too Canadian to understand that. 1.00

01:21:25.480 There is a dark humor, perhaps, yeah.

01:21:27.080 Well, it's weird because – yeah, I mean the – I was saying this to somebody else that like if I lived in Europe, I feel like I would be even more radical.

01:21:41.160 I mean because – well, that's the thing.

01:21:43.140 I mean in North America, we have this sort of – we have this massivity of the space, and it was settled fairly recently, most of it.

01:21:49.820 And there's a level of alienation where we need – there is an existential threat, right?

01:21:56.420 But it's like if we lose parts of the United States to non-white people, that's not – game over, right? 0.99

01:22:03.120 It's not even close to it because it's a continent.

01:22:05.200 It's the size of a continent, right?

01:22:08.080 But in Europe, I mean it's the homeland, and so if we lose parts of it, like that's gone forever. 0.99

01:22:13.300 And if we look at history, when the Muslims take over, it's 600 years before we fucking get our asses around to dislaunching them. 1.00

01:22:19.820 Right? 1.00

01:22:22.900 That's what happened in Spain.

01:22:24.160 And many of the parts of the – you know, Constantinople is still retained by Muslims.

01:22:31.200 So, you know, it's –

01:22:33.400 I mean I think when you lose Christ and everything which that means, then you get the stuff.

01:22:40.220 Maybe you shouldn't whine that you get the Muslims. 1.00

01:22:41.840 I think – I mean I think it's not a coincidence that countries like – yeah, countries like Bulgaria, you know, Romania, da-da-da.

01:22:50.780 I mean these countries do not get the huge migration wave that a country like Sweden has.

01:22:55.640 A country that is the most atomized, the most mechanized, the most socialized, and the most atheist country probably in Europe at this point.

01:23:03.960 And if they're not atheists, then they're heretics and loony-toony Pentecostals or whatever. 0.60

01:23:10.400 Well, we've tossed this into the mix.

01:23:12.120 It's not a coincidence that Sweden get the stuff we have now.

01:23:16.100 Just look at the map.

01:23:17.060 It would be laughable for someone 50, maybe 100 years ago to say, aha, Muslims are going to go to Sweden.

01:23:24.880 But they're not going to go at Bulgaria, Romania, or these countries, right?

01:23:29.280 It would be laughable.

01:23:30.100 They would laugh at your face.

01:23:31.240 But look at it now.

01:23:32.380 It's kind of funny how –

01:23:33.100 Well, you know that in Russia, the abortion rate in Russia is like one-to-one, that for every live birth, there's an abortion.

01:23:42.200 In the Soviet Union, there were two abortions for every live birth.

01:23:45.200 So it's considerable progress, right?

01:23:49.380 But I mean this to say that, you know, like to a certain degree, you know, Russia is more Christian than most countries, and the Orthodox Church is thriving.

01:23:56.780 But Russia is not a Christian country these days.

01:23:58.660 You know, I know quite a few Russians, people who come from there, and that's not how it is. 1.00

01:24:05.380 Most people, you know, the church is not a huge part of their lives.

01:24:09.860 You know, it's growing.

01:24:10.840 It's growing, and it's regaining its status.

01:24:13.100 But there's a long way to go.

01:24:14.880 A long way to go.

01:24:15.800 I don't know, maybe it's more big city Russians, so maybe I just have a roast in the view of Russians. 1.00

01:24:23.900 But I think the rural Russians are pretty sane compared to rural countries. 1.00

01:24:28.300 Yeah, but Russia is a very urbanized place after the fall of the Soviet Union.

01:24:33.320 It was purposefully urban after the communism.

01:24:34.920 One of the interesting developments in Russia is I know the government, I think Putin in particular,

01:24:51.900 have been trying to get the old calendar expats who have been living abroad for a long time to move back to Russia

01:25:04.520 and specifically to settle the rural areas that have been abandoned since the great collectivizations and mechanizations of the Soviet Union.

01:25:12.780 Yeah, well, this is the interesting thing because before World War I, Tsar Nicholas was poised to mass-settle Siberia.

01:25:20.760 There had been considerable expansion there beforehand.

01:25:24.760 But because of the huge loss of life in World War I and II, this was cut short.

01:25:28.920 So if the Tsarist regime had not been overthrown and World War I ended nominally with a truce,

01:25:34.700 you know, Siberia would be like industrial Russia is right now.

01:25:39.580 Russia would have, you know, like double the population.

01:25:43.780 Russia would be, you know, the biggest superpower in the world.

01:25:47.720 Yeah, that's so.

01:25:49.120 Raffles said that.

01:25:50.500 I believe him.

01:25:51.600 I believe him.

01:25:52.740 Well, it's just a matter of numbers, right?

01:25:54.600 It's a matter of numbers, right?

01:25:55.780 Because like if Russia had been allowed to develop in the 20th century, like the U.S. had been, right, in terms of demographics, 0.80

01:26:02.660 it's unquestionable, right?

01:26:05.100 It's unquestionable.

01:26:06.080 They have the same, you know, it's the only country that kind of compares to this North American, Zalasetom. 0.92

01:26:10.360 You span continents.

01:26:12.180 You have that level of space, arable land, resources, etc.

01:26:15.780 No, but it's an interesting prospect.

01:26:19.240 I know that a couple of years ago they were offering, you know, people land in the Jewish Republic part of Russia in the Far East,

01:26:28.340 where specifically English-speaking foreigners could get like a little grant and a little plot of land and this kind of thing.

01:26:33.960 Yeah, roughly one hectare or something.

01:26:39.880 Something like that.

01:26:40.340 It's not that much.

01:26:41.280 Anyway, getting into the weeds, getting into the weeds.

01:26:44.580 This is the thing that, back to the normalization, you know, and it's just think about if your personal, you know, household finances were run like this.

01:26:52.620 Think about, you know, just like, oh, well, you know, I mean, I'm going to take out loans that are 50 times the amount of money I make a year, right?

01:27:00.460 Like, I'm not going to have to worry about it.

01:27:02.380 I'll just pass down this debt to my children, you know.

01:27:04.520 It's fine.

01:27:05.060 You know, I want to get a mansion right now, you know.

01:27:07.960 This is the sort of…

01:27:08.960 Inheritance?

01:27:09.340 What does that mean?

01:27:10.260 Yeah, exactly.

01:27:10.740 This is the sort of logic, right?

01:27:12.000 It's, you know…

01:27:13.960 Boomer logic, if any.

01:27:14.820 Well, anyway, but the…

01:27:15.780 And I guess the sickening aspect of it is just unquestioned.

01:27:18.440 Nobody says, what's going on here?

01:27:20.420 Why is this?

01:27:20.940 This is wrong. 1.00

01:27:21.520 This is stupid. 1.00

01:27:23.200 Right? 1.00

01:27:24.240 Let me tell you a little story about, well, we're not technically boomers, but actually not.

01:27:30.120 I think I'll dox myself, so I don't do it.

01:27:33.200 Go on.

01:27:33.640 Yeah, fair enough.

01:27:34.300 Well, that's one of the interesting things about the immediate post-revolutionary period in the United States in the form of colonies.

01:27:44.280 It was one of the very first law reforms, so-called, that swept the, at that time, actual states, actual independent states, was to do away with the old inheritance laws.

01:28:02.880 There's the English common law inheritance system that comes to us from the Middle Ages, wherein the eldest son would be presumed to inherit the entire estate.

01:28:17.100 There's a specific term for that.

01:28:19.720 And, in fact, that these estates were not alienable by the estate holder.

01:28:27.120 You couldn't sell everything.

01:28:29.100 You had to pass it on to the eldest son.

01:28:32.880 And that this was considered a good reform to rationalize property ownership and just, you know, it's a good thing that we can break up these inheritances.

01:28:46.760 Well, you know, here's a funny thing, because this is like libertarians having self-defeating logic even back in the day.

01:28:54.540 Because I bet you this type of people that would have pushed for this reform were Thomas Jefferson classical liberal types because they thought that it would free up capital.

01:29:00.860 But the great irony is Thomas Jefferson acknowledges himself that the yeoman is the core of the republic and that you cannot be free and engaged in a society of free men unless you have farmland because you don't produce capital if you don't do that.

01:29:16.480 And so the very irony is that this disperses intergenerational farming capital and makes the people less free and makes the system itself untenable.

01:29:24.740 Amazing.

01:29:25.380 Amazing.

01:29:28.480 I mean, this is the thing, but these ideas were kind of dumb from the beginning, you know, because you don't get to have both.

01:29:35.620 You know, I'm not saying that societies of free men, yeomanry are bad.

01:29:40.760 No, these are profoundly good things, profoundly positive parts of our heritage, constitutionalism, separation of powers, you know, a clearly articulated form of government.

01:29:51.500 These are good political developments that exist specifically to Anglo-Saxons and those who inherit their political tradition.

01:29:58.860 No, I disagree.

01:30:00.260 Well, it exists also in Western Europe as well.

01:30:01.760 It's only because you can't get it normally, right?

01:30:03.920 If you have to articulate something, you have to create a law out of it.

01:30:06.400 That's because you don't have the common sense left.

01:30:08.780 So that's why you have to go on the first place. 0.99

01:30:09.260 That's ridiculous. 0.61

01:30:10.060 We've been doing that for 2,000 years. 0.97

01:30:12.880 Well, yeah.

01:30:13.520 So there are two streams of thought that go into this American system.

01:30:22.700 One is an organic system of thought that goes back to the charters of rights, the most famous, of course, being the Magna Carta, the Great Charter.

01:30:38.500 But that's late.

01:30:40.340 We have documents in Latin from 1,000 years before.

01:30:43.180 It has many precursors.

01:30:45.660 You know, it was an organic tradition of Anglo-Saxon kingship that when a king is acclaimed by his thanes, that he would say,

01:30:57.240 OK, here is the charter by which my reign will run.

01:31:01.400 And usually it's just reaffirming the charter of the preceding king and the king before him with very slight tweaks to account for present-day circumstances.

01:31:13.180 And so that is essentially how the constitution, small c, worked until we had this enlightenment idea that instead of having an organic constitution that was living in a real sense,

01:31:32.420 we would mechanize the constitution and turn it into an instrument of law and write it down.

01:31:38.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:31:38.860 That's my point.

01:31:40.080 Well, right.

01:31:40.920 But the problem is that the – I was speaking about this with Masonius Rufus the other day.

01:31:46.940 And the problem is that under the ideal Anglo-Saxon common law system, law was something that existed in the world.

01:31:54.680 And the job of the courtroom and the grand jury was to go out and discover and apply it.

01:31:59.780 And then based on the precedent of that investigation, which determined the truth, law would be formed because, well, we've done the investigation.

01:32:09.180 We know the facts of the case and the circumstance.

01:32:11.480 This is how the law is applied.

01:32:13.160 The presumption there is that law is real and exists in the universe and that man is equipped with reasonable faculty which he can discover it.

01:32:22.980 This is the meaning of what Paul says in Scripture, that the law is written in our hearts.

01:32:28.680 The whole presupposition for this system is a social, traditional, Christian orthodoxy essentially.

01:32:36.980 That's what the situation – that's what this post-Roman, right, you know, Western Christian legal system comes out of, that society.

01:32:48.920 We want that kind of society again, right?

01:32:51.820 We need to be like those people as Christian, organize ourselves in those ways.

01:32:55.740 And then the idea is that we can formalize this and turn it, you know, liberate it from the chains of inherited tradition, inherited meaning, inherited language.

01:33:14.080 And it's like a great divorce, to use the C.S. Lewis term.

01:33:18.960 Then you get so many laws, you don't even know if the laws are valid a little more.

01:33:25.740 Well, yeah, I mean, it's actually a term now in American jurisprudence to speak of legal pollution.

01:33:34.680 Yeah.

01:33:35.640 We have so many laws that not even lawyers can know all the laws.

01:33:41.780 Exactly, this is time.

01:33:43.000 In the truest project sense of the word.

01:33:46.420 And so, I mean –

01:33:47.040 So, see, I mean, this is how you'll be a great lawyer.

01:33:49.600 You'll twist the words, you'll dig up some funny law, and basically you can manipulate the poor lawyer. 0.96

01:33:55.740 Who isn't as much of an autistic nerd as you. 0.96

01:34:01.180 Well, in its worst form, certainly.

01:34:03.320 But that's the thing is that these – but I think it's important.

01:34:06.960 I mean – and it emphasizes this point that the civilization is an organic product.

01:34:15.000 It's not segmented and fractured.

01:34:17.620 It's not schizophrenic.

01:34:18.560 So, you know, your religious beliefs, which determine your core understandings of the basic truths of the world that you act upon.

01:34:27.040 What you think about that is going to affect your whole life.

01:34:31.080 We talked about this before and again.

01:34:33.120 We will.

01:34:34.180 And if you don't – if you want the product of a certain political system that existed in the past,

01:34:39.680 or you want to return to a more traditional political system,

01:34:43.160 then you need to live that traditional lifestyle that those people did.

01:34:47.000 And at the center of this, it's religious, it's spiritual, right?

01:34:51.900 And that's in harmony, in an intelligible, logical, rational relationship with every other aspect of your life.

01:35:00.360 And you live it.

01:35:01.660 It's not just an idea, right?

01:35:03.120 You actually – you know, you have families.

01:35:05.840 You go to church.

01:35:06.540 You engage in community action.

01:35:08.600 You work.

01:35:10.220 You do these things.

01:35:12.320 That's what it's about.

01:35:12.900 Life.

01:35:13.180 This is what national socialism and Christianity are about in life because that comes from order, from harmony.

01:35:20.460 That's why we're political.

01:35:25.600 And it – you know, like – and this is the criticism.

01:35:29.460 I think it's fair of the so-called secular right trend in Europe and America is that if you wish to regain that strength

01:35:42.120 that we once were, you know, if you want castles and princesses and maidens and wheat fields and cathedrals and crusades

01:35:53.900 and this so-called Faustian, although I argue against that term, the great culture of the past,

01:36:03.400 then you have to have the foundation of that great culture of the past.

01:36:06.640 You have to have the cult that produced that fruit, you know.

01:36:11.340 You cannot separate the Middle Ages from the church or the church from the Middle Ages.

01:36:18.980 Precisely.

01:36:19.820 And this is the great irony.

01:36:21.560 Somebody was mocking the progressive medievalists the other day because it's – you know, you like the Middle Ages but you hate everything that created it.

01:36:28.720 You hate everything that it stood for, right?

01:36:34.080 It's a great irony, great irony.

01:36:37.040 Now, we've gotten quite into the weeds, but this is just what I wanted to emphasize.

01:36:42.680 And so if we were – if as Christians we're called to be like Christ in everything that we do, right,

01:36:48.680 this is the center of the mystery of the incarnation of the Logos that E. Michael Jones was talking about earlier,

01:36:54.360 is that God himself was incarnate in a man and that he worked freely with his humanity.

01:37:02.860 The divinity and the humanity were in free cooperation, both wills, the hypostatic union, right, the duothelite, right?

01:37:10.620 What this means is that Christ was both man and God and that everything that was man became everything that was God,

01:37:18.080 that they became one person, one subject.

01:37:19.900 The divine energies deified the human.

01:37:24.080 And so Christ was man and God at the same time, right?

01:37:28.180 And so what this means is that us men can become like God in everything we do.

01:37:33.240 And so this does not – the foundation of this is to fight the corruption that's in us, our passions, our disorder, right?

01:37:40.600 The, you know, the sin and death, which is inherent to our fallen, you know, our fallen selves, our ego,

01:37:46.080 if you like to use this sort of Freudian terminology, our self-interest, irrational self-interest, right?

01:37:52.860 And, you know, strive to fight our passions, you know, to be more virtuous, right?

01:37:59.200 This is how we become more like God, by trying to conform to this ideal of perfection.

01:38:03.880 That's the standard for us, right?

01:38:05.840 But what this means in that – now, hold on, I'll make a point of – please, I'll give it to you –

01:38:10.540 is that the faculties that are divinized by engaging in the Christian mysteries, by being a Christian,

01:38:16.980 is not just how you pray, but it's the whole life.

01:38:20.480 Everything we do as human beings is divinized.

01:38:22.880 We should bring to God politics, family life, economics, social organization and interaction, right?

01:38:32.760 This is the – Christ is no less Christ in these realms.

01:38:36.440 We are no less human, indeed.

01:38:39.380 And so we need a total – a worldview that can address all of these issues.

01:38:45.760 That's consistent.

01:38:46.760 That's what we've just been trying to advocate here from Mysterio and Fascist from day one. 0.74

01:38:50.920 Is that you can't – you know, any attempt to fragment these is going to be – is going to fail.

01:38:56.240 Unfortunately, there's also, like, the real world, right?

01:38:58.500 And the issue is that, you know, we have – there's the ideal set of how we ought to behave, 0.94

01:39:04.240 and then you have to apply this to our shitty human beings. 0.98

01:39:08.280 We are sinful. 1.00

01:39:08.980 We're corrupted.

01:39:10.620 And we exist in specific time and places.

01:39:12.560 So it's always going to look different, and it's never going to conform to this ideal.

01:39:16.600 There is this – the ideal is always instantiated in the real.

01:39:21.000 This is kind of the core of Christian epistemology, is that God becomes man in the real world, right?

01:39:26.520 And so the – really, this is – the message here is that, you know, you need the grace of the Holy Spirit.

01:39:34.400 That's how we fix our civilization, is God.

01:39:38.440 And, you know, our political efforts will always be faulty without this as the foundation upon which they're built.

01:39:46.660 Now, Griego, what did you want to say?

01:39:49.320 Yeah, pretty much.

01:39:50.920 Pretty much.

01:39:53.360 What was I going to say?

01:39:54.640 Okay.

01:39:56.520 I lost a train of thought.

01:39:58.480 It's okay.

01:39:59.140 How about we do Kali Yugenus? 0.53

01:40:02.160 Kali Yugenus?

01:40:03.100 Someone say Kali Yugenus?

01:40:04.200 Oh, I do like me some Kali Yugenus.

01:40:06.540 You like it, huh?

01:40:08.680 Kali Yugenus.

01:40:11.980 Thank you, gentlemen.

01:40:13.340 Why haven't you made that drop yet?

01:40:15.820 Lauren is lazy as usual.

01:40:17.500 Yes, you see.

01:40:18.740 Not perfect.

01:40:19.520 Please get me that.

01:40:20.340 Not by drugs, John.

01:40:20.860 That's good.

01:40:21.300 So, gentlemen, do you want me to give it to you, please? 0.95

01:40:24.640 Let us, for a moment here, talk about the metaphysics of turning the ashes of your loved one into a dildo. 0.82

01:40:37.960 Is this being a neurotic or being serious? 0.95

01:40:43.620 I'm being dead serious.

01:40:44.960 Being dead serious.

01:40:45.760 There is this freak, right? 0.99

01:40:50.180 That made a dildo, right? 0.98

01:40:53.360 And there's like a small box inside it, right? 0.92

01:40:56.300 And there you place the ashes of your dead, quote-unquote, loved one.

01:41:05.900 So, essentially, it's normalized in necrophilia, right?

01:41:08.640 Right.

01:41:09.120 Well, essentially, yeah.

01:41:10.460 Basically, with what...

01:41:11.300 I mean, I don't even think one needs to make a super pretentious, well, slightly pretentious, intellectualized analysis of...

01:41:20.300 That you're essentially committing sexual union with death itself, but that's what you're doing, right?

01:41:27.560 I mean, you're...

01:41:29.960 Is this even real life at this point?

01:41:33.020 I don't even know.

01:41:34.380 The point is, this is sick. 0.80

01:41:37.920 And if you think, oh, but that's so cute, well, you're sick as well. 1.00

01:41:41.460 You're depraved. 1.00

01:41:43.180 You should go to confession. 1.00

01:41:45.640 You're right.

01:41:46.520 You're right. 1.00

01:41:47.240 Sick fuck. 1.00

01:41:48.040 Well, that's the reality of sin, right? 1.00

01:41:55.220 This is what happens.

01:41:56.380 And so, you know, you're right.

01:41:58.920 It's right.

01:41:59.840 It's right on its face.

01:42:01.120 You know, this is just on its face, right? 0.57

01:42:03.500 You don't need an intellectual substantiation to know why this is evil, rotten.

01:42:10.140 I mean, just wrong.

01:42:13.220 It's...

01:42:13.780 Oh, but, Florian, you don't understand.

01:42:16.800 But we will offer it.

01:42:17.820 This dissolves sexual taboos, and because it dissolves sexual taboos, that's a good thing.

01:42:23.460 Because, you know what?

01:42:24.240 We should be free.

01:42:25.320 We should be free as Prometheus.

01:42:27.220 We should be free, so high, and then just falling into the sun and burning for all eternity.

01:42:34.540 Yeah.

01:42:35.500 Like yours.

01:42:36.220 You'll have to rejoin us, Wilhelm, when we interview E. Michael Jones again.

01:42:39.860 You shall be as gods.

01:42:41.480 You shall know good and evil for yourselves.

01:42:45.320 Yeah, we know evil, at least.

01:42:47.100 We know evil.

01:42:48.080 Please make it stop.

01:42:49.120 Please, we shouldn't have taken the fruit.

01:42:50.640 Why did we take the fruit?

01:42:52.520 This is what we deserve.

01:42:53.800 Thank you, God, for punishing us.

01:42:59.680 Yeah.

01:43:00.300 And so...

01:43:00.860 What's particularly twisted here is the abuse of the word love.

01:43:06.280 And it always drives me batty that love has become reduced to pure eros, to use the Greek term.

01:43:17.040 Well, it's not even eros.

01:43:18.460 I mean, this is just animal passions.

01:43:19.840 It's not even eros.

01:43:20.500 How do you bond here?

01:43:23.540 You don't bond.

01:43:24.140 You don't have that bonding here.

01:43:25.720 You don't have, like, two opposites uniting each other.

01:43:28.780 What this is, it's just animal passion wanting to kill itself. 0.99

01:43:34.620 This is like shooting yourself in the head. 0.98

01:43:35.320 Well, it's perverted eros, yes, essentially. 0.98

01:43:37.560 That's the thing.

01:43:38.120 Well, I mean, you're always shooting...

01:43:38.740 I mean, you're not shooting yourself in the head.

01:43:40.860 I mean, I suppose...

01:43:41.840 Well, yeah, indeed.

01:43:43.060 You're shooting yourself somewhere else, right?

01:43:44.260 Yeah.

01:43:44.640 Well, and this is the thing, right?

01:43:46.340 And this is what we mean when we say misdirected passions.

01:43:48.820 So, look, the sexual faculty is being drawn into this filth. 0.99

01:43:56.220 You know, we should just go ahead, I guess, and give the pretentious analysis. 0.98

01:44:00.620 I mean, basically, what's going on here is, you know, you're turning, you know, the vagina, right, into death, into an organ of death, basically. 0.99

01:44:09.800 Instead of, right, having, like, actual physical copulation with somebody who's living, you're taking the symbolic remains of their death, right? 0.69

01:44:17.760 And you're copulating with an artificial, you know, phylactery of this remain.

01:44:24.440 Yes.

01:44:24.580 And so, it's a total...

01:44:26.060 You're taking the sexual mystery, right, and inverting it.

01:44:29.440 Let me...

01:44:30.440 Let me just...

01:44:30.960 Before I just forget to do the hour we're recording here, Florian, right?

01:44:37.740 I mean, another thing which is kind of interesting here is that it kind of shows that they love...

01:44:41.980 They don't love the person in itself as a spiritual and, you know, material unity.

01:44:47.500 They just love the body rights, right? 0.98

01:44:49.620 And that's why they use the ashes to satisfy themselves sexually, because they never love the person in itself.

01:44:54.920 They just love the body.

01:44:56.480 This is what it says to me, at least.

01:44:58.160 They never love the person.

01:44:59.240 They never really felt anything for the person beyond comment.

01:45:02.900 Oh, he makes me giggle a bit sometimes.

01:45:04.960 Well, not really anymore.

01:45:06.700 Ha, ha, ha, ha.

01:45:09.240 It's...

01:45:09.880 That's dark, man.

01:45:10.780 There's some darkest versions, but...

01:45:13.260 I know what you mean.

01:45:14.140 It's really dark, and I mean, just...

01:45:16.620 Doc, what's your take?

01:45:19.660 What do you think?

01:45:22.320 Well, I was just going to say that I saw another story that is eerily related to this, where...

01:45:29.100 Oh, really?

01:45:31.400 There's a company, apparently, that will press ashes, the remains of your quote-unquote loved one, into a record.

01:45:39.640 So now you can listen to your dead relative singing the song eternally.

01:45:45.920 It's just...

01:45:46.940 It's...

01:45:47.640 I'm not going to know if that's...

01:45:49.460 I've also seen them where they load them into ammunition.

01:45:53.360 Oh, they feel cute.

01:45:54.280 They feel cute.

01:45:55.940 What?

01:45:56.240 I've seen them where they load ashes into ammunition.

01:45:58.900 So you can get 45 hollow points with, like, ashes in them, and the idea is that he defends you even in death.

01:46:03.700 Oh...

01:46:07.700 It's pretty degenerate.

01:46:09.060 It's a little bit more metal, perhaps, but...

01:46:10.700 Why?

01:46:14.340 I mean, why can't we just bury people?

01:46:16.700 Why do we have to burn people? 0.99

01:46:17.900 That's retarded, right? 1.00

01:46:18.720 We can't be just... 0.74

01:46:19.700 That's because we don't need the body of sacred, obviously.

01:46:23.340 Exactly.

01:46:23.920 Oh, look at me. 1.00

01:46:25.200 I'm a no-stick faggot. 1.00

01:46:26.380 I want to burn my body because I don't like my body. 1.00

01:46:28.980 My body is icky, and my body prevents me from having pleasures. 0.95

01:46:32.460 Oh, what is this?

01:46:33.320 I'm stuck in the world of ideas.

01:46:35.500 Oh, no.

01:46:36.080 The form of beauty is blinding me.

01:46:37.780 I don't want beauty.

01:46:38.780 Go away, beauty. 0.97

01:46:39.920 I want more pleasure, but I have no body.

01:46:42.740 I have no vehicle to pleasure myself with.

01:46:45.640 I can't jack off an astral plane.

01:46:47.760 Please help.

01:46:48.460 Please help.

01:46:49.020 Please help.

01:46:49.540 I need to find another body.

01:46:51.200 Oh, this is hell, isn't it?

01:46:52.320 This is hell. 0.98

01:46:52.960 I deserve it.

01:46:53.700 No, I don't deserve it.

01:46:55.100 I want to whine on God instead because I can't accept responsibility.

01:47:01.280 Because respecting, because having responsibility is good, and I can't gaze at the form of good

01:47:07.140 because I want pleasure.

01:47:08.580 I want to come, but I have no body left.

01:47:11.280 I'm stuck in an astral plane.

01:47:12.580 Oh, help me. 0.96

01:47:15.060 Incredible.

01:47:16.920 Incredible.

01:47:17.400 This is why you listen to Mysterium Fashies, because you get this level of analysis.

01:47:23.540 We dive so deep into the topics that we...

01:47:26.600 I think my analysis is deeper than your analysis, Florian.

01:47:29.740 I agree.

01:47:30.080 Let the listeners decide whose analysis is deeper.

01:47:33.380 No, that's keratistic.

01:47:36.360 Yeah, let's see if we can't keep it to a little control. 0.76

01:47:39.620 Now, Doc, did you want to select the next article here?

01:47:42.260 Uh, I'm operating at something of a disadvantage.

01:47:47.660 Let me see if I can pull up our list here without losing you guys.

01:47:51.860 Uh, da-da-da-da.

01:47:54.340 Docs.

01:47:56.960 So, let me see.

01:47:58.120 We just did...

01:48:00.340 The Dildo Urn Ashes.

01:48:03.840 Oh, my lord.

01:48:05.180 Okay, so here we go.

01:48:06.060 DARPA is planning to hack the human brain.

01:48:09.740 Uh, uh, a very, very disturbing article.

01:48:16.140 Uh, from futurism.com, DARPA is planning to hack the human brain to let us upload skills.

01:48:24.680 Uh, in March 2016, DARPA, the U.S. military's mad science branch, announced their targeted neuroplasticity training program, or TNT.

01:48:33.700 The TNT program aims to explore the various safe neurostimulization methods for activating synaptic plasticity, which is the brain's ability to alter the connecting points between neurons, a requirement for learning.

01:48:47.420 DARPA hopes that building up that ability by subjecting the nervous system to a kind of workout regimen will enable the brain to learn more quickly.

01:48:53.720 The ideal end benefit for this kind of breakthrough would be downloadable learning.

01:48:59.620 Rather than needing to learn, for example, a new language through rigorous study and practice over a long period of time, we could basically download the knowledge after putting our minds into a highly receptive neuroplastic state.

01:49:10.720 Clearly, this kind of research would benefit anyone, but urgent military missions can succeed or fail based on the training.

01:49:17.160 So, in these situations, a faster rate of trained personnel would be a tremendous boom.

01:49:24.980 Now, this is kind of funny, because, I mean, okay, first and foremost, let's have the pretentious analysis.

01:49:31.640 I will put all my Evola on, and we can discuss this a bit.

01:49:34.980 I mean, it's like Gnostics trying to dissolve everything and rebuild it, right? 1.00

01:49:39.160 It's the same thing we see right here. 1.00

01:49:40.700 Plus, I mean, who would be so stupid so they would allow a program, literally called TNT, to blow up their brain? 1.00

01:49:51.800 That's stupid. 1.00

01:49:52.680 That's pretty wrong. 1.00

01:49:53.480 I mean, now that you put it in those terms, it's like, hmm, really makes you think.

01:49:59.260 No, I suppose you deserve the Darwin Award, right?

01:50:03.380 Oh, this TNT thing.

01:50:04.680 It sounds so good.

01:50:05.360 I'm going to place this TNT in my brain.

01:50:07.060 And, oh, no, I can't drive my bicycle.

01:50:09.400 Oh, no, I can't move my left arm.

01:50:11.280 Oh, it's all your fault.

01:50:14.620 Now, this may be obvious to our listeners, but I want to go ahead and just say this anyway.

01:50:18.760 I mean, this seems to be custom designed by the elite to create that loyal army of indoctrinated soldiers that they do not presently have.

01:50:29.800 The Golem.

01:50:30.480 Yeah, or maybe, I don't know, maybe you can flash that for infants.

01:50:33.640 No, I mean, but literally, this is what's going on here.

01:50:35.980 Hold on.

01:50:37.080 Like, this is what's going on here, is that the U.S. military, the tool of Zog, so to speak, right, tool of international finance, the regime, capital R, has basically, they, instead of just having to hire mercenaries, they can literally construct their own purpose-built Golems with specific skills and abilities and specific loyalties. 0.72

01:51:00.760 This is what, like, for those of you who aren't familiar with the ritual, what the rabbi does in order, it's a Kabbalistic ritual, so what the rabbi does in order to create a Golem is he builds a man out of clay.

01:51:12.700 And in the mouth of the man, he inserts a scroll written with the secret name of God, and what this does is this animates the Golem, and he gains power over it, and it becomes loyal to him.

01:51:25.460 And many people think that this is an allegory for the Goyim, right?

01:51:32.220 And so that this is the classic through the use of, you know, knowledge, techne, secret knowledge, right, financial, you know, esoteric, occult, magical, right, technological, or otherwise.

01:51:46.160 Like, we've demonstrated on the show that they're all interconnected.

01:51:49.980 Yes, let me just continue to turn your thoughts a bit, Florian.

01:51:53.880 And you're right, you're right, you're right.

01:51:55.280 I mean, take science, for example.

01:51:56.800 I mean, what is the essence of science?

01:51:58.300 It's the essence of science is through knowledge manipulating reality, right?

01:52:03.120 Let's take esotericism.

01:52:04.500 Let's take, I don't know, alchemy, right, or any of this, this gobbled group, right? 0.99

01:52:09.660 Magic, like actual middle-aged magic, esoteric magic, whatever it's called.

01:52:14.580 But the essence of that is the same.

01:52:17.020 So, I mean, science really is magic, right?

01:52:19.560 It is magic.

01:52:20.380 Science literally is magic.

01:52:21.580 That's what magic is, science.

01:52:23.100 Oh, yeah, before science became synonymous, the word science became synonymous with the empirical science or natural science.

01:52:29.540 Yeah, exactly.

01:52:30.080 Then you had all these spiritual sciences.

01:52:33.080 You had alchemy, you had spiritual sciences, you had astrology, you had all this stuff.

01:52:38.220 And, I mean, just look what this mentality has evolved to, right?

01:52:44.780 I mean, back in the day, you had that kind of stuff, and now we have this kind of stuff.

01:52:48.100 But we still make an idol out of the art, right?

01:52:52.380 We still make an idol of the science, right?

01:52:54.200 We still think science can give an existential meaning to life.

01:52:56.660 So, we're just like Evola nerds who refuse to accept Christ, right?

01:53:04.800 Used as little people, which I've been at one point, sadly.

01:53:09.000 I'm not very proud of that period.

01:53:13.100 But essentially, that's the same thing as science fedoras.

01:53:17.400 So, essentially, Evolas are like tipping their vola, and atheists, scientists, they're like tipping their fedora, right? 0.90

01:53:26.200 It's the same thing.

01:53:27.040 I mean, even esotericism, right?

01:53:29.440 I mean, you don't really have, I don't see much of the concept of an impersonal god.

01:53:34.680 You only have a sort of will to power upwards, right?

01:53:37.440 Oh, I want to transcend the samsaric reality and escape the subsaturnian realm or whatever god it looks like, right? 1.00

01:53:44.960 Yes.

01:53:45.360 I mean, I can speak this lingo, so I can basically shitpost about that for like an hour or something, but I won't do that.

01:53:52.740 We should do an episode where that's all we do.

01:53:55.800 Supershitposts, yeah, we should do at least a segment.

01:53:57.960 That would be hilarious.

01:53:58.800 That would be kind of artistic, but it would be hilarious kind of autism.

01:54:02.020 So, bringing this back to meat and potatoes, like it's been the article of faith for a long time on the regular patriotic right,

01:54:11.940 the McConstitution patriotard wing of American politics that you could never achieve a real dictatorship in the United States

01:54:24.340 because the military would not allow that because who is the military?

01:54:27.840 The military is us.

01:54:30.720 It's largely southern and western.

01:54:33.760 It's white.

01:54:36.100 It's Christian.

01:54:36.960 It's male.

01:54:37.520 Well, you know, these people aren't going to turn their guns on their families, but this turns that article of faith on its head completely.

01:54:48.720 Right, exactly.

01:54:49.900 This is end game.

01:54:51.760 Yeah, end game.

01:54:52.540 This is what we're talking about.

01:54:54.480 Go back to Aldous Huxley, Berkeley lectures.

01:54:56.820 The human revolution.

01:54:59.020 Once you can alter the nature of a human being, you can subvert his free will.

01:55:04.260 You dominate him.

01:55:05.300 You own him.

01:55:06.660 He stops being human.

01:55:07.900 He becomes literally just a shell, a servant.

01:55:12.800 And this is the thing, right?

01:55:14.280 This is what they want, you know, and they want to destroy the human person.

01:55:18.520 And this is why we're insistent upon this, and you heard Jones cite human anthropology as the reason for why the definition of usury can't change.

01:55:26.740 Humans have a real spiritual reality with unchanging properties.

01:55:34.060 Unchanging properties.

01:55:35.300 I mean, they're essentially killing the people.

01:55:37.600 They're literally killing them.

01:55:38.660 Yes, in a sense you are. 0.99

01:55:39.980 They're so low, like the rest of them.

01:55:42.680 They have empty eyes.

01:55:43.320 They have this floor, I guess, right?

01:55:46.060 And I mean, death.

01:55:47.700 But in a certain sense, you know, you, I mean, yeah, it's, most people will consent to it, right?

01:55:52.000 That's the part, is that most of the soldiers will.

01:55:55.260 Well, yeah, well, let them consent.

01:55:57.200 I mean, this isn't, I mean, this isn't the world we should strive for, right?

01:56:01.260 We should strive for the eternal world.

01:56:03.980 Yeah.

01:56:04.200 So I suppose let them consent.

01:56:05.440 I mean, what's the worst case scenario?

01:56:08.640 You get shot, right?

01:56:09.660 And, well, you're up there, right?

01:56:11.540 Oh, man.

01:56:12.140 We've got so many, I've got so many incredible triggering articles for today.

01:56:15.660 Unless there was anything else we wanted to say on the subject.

01:56:17.380 I mean, this just kind of ties in with everything we've been saying.

01:56:22.680 Well, I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't judge the individual soldier too harshly.

01:56:28.040 I mean, you're telling the soldier that we can train you faster and faster than we're training.

01:56:33.380 And, like, his motivation is, you know, I don't want to die.

01:56:38.260 I want to be the, I want to literally be the best I can be.

01:56:41.840 So, of course, you know, if you tell him, I can make you an expert marksman and a combat lifesaver and all of these other skill sets.

01:56:49.440 And it would take us years to instill in you the old-fashioned way.

01:56:52.560 We can just do that in a matter of days through some hypno-training sessions in these pods.

01:57:00.300 Of course he's going to sign up.

01:57:01.440 He's going to, he'll leap at a chance.

01:57:02.840 And maybe sneak in some propaganda.

01:57:08.300 Oh, see?

01:57:09.220 Now we've got a loyal clone army.

01:57:12.580 Yeah.

01:57:13.200 And it's kind of funny, right?

01:57:14.100 I mean, the clone army was super loyal to the Senate, right?

01:57:16.960 And the Senate became this evil Sith guy, pop-tin guy, right? 0.90

01:57:20.340 So, I mean...

01:57:21.360 Now, there's some predictive programming for you, Jay Dyer.

01:57:23.800 Okay, I'm going to hit the next story here, boys.

01:57:30.380 This is from Daily Mail Online.

01:57:32.640 Scientists carry out head transplant on a rat to create a bizarre two-headed rodent in practice run for a controversial human experiment.

01:57:42.440 The researchers used three rats for operations.

01:57:45.400 A donor, a recipient, and blood supply.

01:57:47.980 It resulted in a two-headed animal with the head of the smaller rat attached to the recipient.

01:57:52.180 The team says that they were able to do this without damaging the donor brain tissue.

01:57:58.540 It's, um...

01:58:01.180 In the study, researchers from Harbin Medical University in China and controversial neurosurgeon Sergio Canavero

01:58:08.380 built upon earlier head grafting experiments to figure out how to avoid damage to the brain tissue during the operation

01:58:13.820 as well as long-term immune rejection.

01:58:17.920 Yeah.

01:58:18.480 This is basically, I mean, you can look at the picture here. 0.70

01:58:22.180 You know, it's literally a little rat brain, a little rat head with the hands sewn on to a bigger rat. 0.82

01:58:29.300 It's, uh... 0.97

01:58:29.740 That's what's going on here.

01:58:31.160 They're both alive.

01:58:34.340 Okay, okay.

01:58:35.240 So, they...

01:58:36.240 What?

01:58:37.120 They sew together two rats?

01:58:39.600 Literally two rat heads.

01:58:40.980 Yeah.

01:58:41.320 Two rat brains. 0.93

01:58:42.540 Okay. 0.96

01:58:43.160 Two rat heads.

01:58:44.280 Okay.

01:58:45.260 Oh, wow.

01:58:46.240 This is freaky.

01:58:47.640 I mean, are you sure they just didn't place the body under the skin of the other rats?

01:58:52.820 No, both of them are alive.

01:58:53.860 Both of the brains are alive and active.

01:58:57.320 It's alive!

01:58:59.460 This is literally Frankenstein monster stuff.

01:59:02.080 Uh, I mean, it's what, you know, this is just what we're talking about.

01:59:07.840 This technology is progressive, right?

01:59:10.460 We're dealing with future problems.

01:59:12.140 Because the future is right now.

01:59:14.900 Um, and so we're going to have to...

01:59:16.600 Knowledge comes from death's release.

01:59:19.560 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

01:59:25.880 Yeah.

01:59:26.240 I don't sing when you...

01:59:27.020 I don't sing when you talk, Grievo.

01:59:29.820 No, but you didn't talk then.

01:59:31.440 This is freaky.

01:59:32.900 Anyway, my point is just that, uh...

01:59:35.480 Yeah, this is the...

01:59:36.180 This is what's going on.

01:59:37.060 And so we're going to have to deal with these problems of high technology.

01:59:39.980 And we have to be comprehensive in our worldview and...

01:59:43.760 And have responses for these issues when they arise.

01:59:47.460 And so the, you know...

01:59:48.480 How about we just scream firing brimstone uncontrollably for 30 minutes or something?

01:59:55.240 Because that would be autistic and nobody would listen to that podcast. 1.00

01:59:59.680 Yes, but I mean, what can you say about this stuff?

02:00:02.480 Well, yeah, no, I mean, this is Book of Enoch tier, you know, type stuff.

02:00:07.160 You know, people just understand this is asking for a flood.

02:00:10.100 You know, this is asking for a nuclear fire.

02:00:13.440 You know, this is just on a basic level of national law.

02:00:17.060 Then you wave the pride flags.

02:00:19.180 Oh, look, you can't flood us.

02:00:23.500 Yeah, he never said anything about fire, though.

02:00:26.800 Oh, no, I didn't.

02:00:28.240 Yeah, so.

02:00:31.660 All right, Greva, do you have another article you want to pick?

02:00:35.720 If I have another article I want to pick.

02:00:41.660 Okay, let's look at this one.

02:00:45.080 kidspot.com

02:00:46.520 Our Australian sites.

02:00:49.360 Capital are turning extra IFV embryos into jewelry.

02:00:54.440 Into jewelry.

02:00:56.340 Into jewelry.

02:00:57.200 To clarify, this is fertilized embryos.

02:01:03.060 Oh, so it's fertilized.

02:01:04.140 I believe so.

02:01:05.940 Okay.

02:01:06.740 Yeah, these are the leftovers from IVF treatment.

02:01:09.180 Okay, okay, okay.

02:01:12.020 Okay, how many leftovers is there while treatment?

02:01:17.100 Oh, many.

02:01:17.940 That's one of the core ethical issues that the Catholic Church has with IVF treatments,

02:01:25.020 is that it always produces more embryos than are implanted in the recipient.

02:01:29.600 Oh, no, this is, this is mass, this is like mass abortion.

02:01:36.320 Like literally, because it's fertilized, right?

02:01:37.700 And, oh, no, this is not good.

02:01:40.540 Oh.

02:01:41.760 And they have a shape like a heart, right?

02:01:44.300 And in the heart, they have like fetus corpses.

02:01:49.360 Yeah, this is kind of...

02:01:50.300 Is that fetus corpses?

02:01:50.860 Just tell me that's just color.

02:01:53.920 Tell me that's color.

02:01:56.580 No, dude.

02:01:57.400 That's what's going on there.

02:01:59.400 That's exactly what's going on there.

02:02:02.460 And the only rational response I have is a giant comet.

02:02:08.520 We'll just end it now.

02:02:10.040 See what I mean that we deserve it all, Florian?

02:02:12.920 We do deserve it all.

02:02:17.040 I mean, just...

02:02:18.560 I mean, what should you say, right?

02:02:22.500 What should you say, right?

02:02:23.660 They're making jewelry out of the image and likeness of God.

02:02:30.680 They're making jewelry out of the image and likeness of God.

02:02:32.900 Oh, look at me.

02:02:33.940 Isn't it pretty?

02:02:35.240 Oh, this image and likeness of God is so pretty, isn't it?

02:02:38.040 Oh, I have it as a ring.

02:02:40.440 Yeah, you know, I don't know what happened to this soul.

02:02:42.540 I don't particularly care if it was baptized or not, you know,

02:02:45.240 but this ring is pretty, pretty.

02:02:47.540 Mm-hmm.

02:02:48.560 Ah, it's difficult sometimes to refute your assertions,

02:02:52.880 I'm going to have to tell you.

02:02:54.780 See, this is why my analysis is super deep.

02:02:57.700 Yeah, clearly.

02:03:00.580 The Grieve Hans supremacy here. 0.75

02:03:03.880 Grieve Hans supremacy. 0.84

02:03:05.520 Grieve has spoken.

02:03:07.040 Doc, do you have another article you'd like to choose?

02:03:09.120 Or any...

02:03:09.400 I mean, you can make another comment.

02:03:10.440 This stance, I mean, what's there to say, right? 0.88

02:03:13.200 It's almost the same as the dildo one, except in reverse. 0.65

02:03:15.440 I mean, basically.

02:03:18.300 Yeah.

02:03:18.980 You know, and it's just what...

02:03:20.820 It's...

02:03:22.320 What could we possibly say that could more illustrate the injustice and disgusting nature

02:03:32.740 than to say they are literally turning their children into fashion accessories?

02:03:43.040 What?

02:03:44.020 Oh, wow.

02:03:45.200 You're right.

02:03:48.340 I just... 1.00

02:03:49.460 You know, you want to talk about fucking sacrificing your children on the altar of Moloch? 1.00

02:03:55.900 I mean... 1.00

02:03:56.720 No, this isn't...

02:03:57.920 You know, they did...

02:03:59.100 At least they didn't, you know...

02:04:01.600 Florin, I'm just going to tell you this.

02:04:03.160 I'm pretty sure even Moloch would be disgusted by this, to be honest, man.

02:04:06.880 I think he delights.

02:04:07.600 I'm pretty sure even he...

02:04:08.580 I think he delights.

02:04:10.380 I mean...

02:04:10.780 I'm sure, I mean...

02:04:11.740 I mean, this isn't...

02:04:13.440 They're not even making a ceremony, man.

02:04:15.520 This is just...

02:04:17.360 Yeah.

02:04:20.220 Mysterium fascis.

02:04:21.180 Where we see so much filth, we end up defending demons.

02:04:24.880 I've never defended demons.

02:04:26.940 But, I mean, um...

02:04:28.500 Nah, I mean, this is...

02:04:29.020 Misunderstand me correctly.

02:04:31.100 Perhaps, yeah.

02:04:31.960 No, you're right.

02:04:35.060 I mean, this is...

02:04:36.200 Sometimes I can wonder, like, you get to the end of the week, and, you know, I look at these news stories.

02:04:43.780 And, um...

02:04:46.700 You know, I really...

02:04:49.080 You read the Old Testament.

02:04:51.000 And it's very, very comforting for me, personally, when I read about similar, very bad things happening.

02:04:56.300 Uh...

02:04:59.020 Because, I mean, it's illustrative that this is not new stuff.

02:05:01.740 I mean, it's not...

02:05:02.980 You know, this is this... 0.99

02:05:04.040 Just more intense manifestation of the same, you know, human bullshit that we've dealt with for a long time. 1.00

02:05:12.320 Right? 1.00

02:05:12.820 It's very intense.

02:05:13.760 You know, um...

02:05:18.180 And so I just...

02:05:19.620 Uh...

02:05:20.980 Wow.

02:05:21.720 Doc, do you have another article that we can, uh, guffaw and can't even add?

02:05:25.420 Uh, yes.

02:05:28.040 Okay, so...

02:05:28.960 Oh, sorry.

02:05:29.560 Never mind.

02:05:30.120 Go ahead.

02:05:30.620 Uh...

02:05:31.500 On...

02:05:32.900 On to a slightly less disgusting topic, um, just as a palate cleanser.

02:05:38.920 Um...

02:05:39.520 Amish, father of 12, faces 68 years in jail.

02:05:44.280 In the wake of anti-Christian, anti-white discrimination that we face all over the Western world, even America, attacks on the Amish, who are a traditionally living, Christian, large family-having white people, have really amped up in recent years.

02:05:57.620 Many cities have begun passing laws which essentially outlaw many Amish practices.

02:06:02.600 And, of course, the federal government is also coming down hard on these simple Christian folk.

02:06:06.420 Now, an Amish father of 12 is facing 68 years in prison for making and selling an herbal product.

02:06:15.940 Uh...

02:06:16.860 What?

02:06:19.100 Uh...

02:06:19.540 Have you heard about Chickpea Man?

02:06:21.400 He is an Amish farmer who makes a homeopathic salve.

02:06:24.400 He was recently arrested by the United States government for simply making these salves without FDA labeling approval, even though it is primarily only Amish people that purchase and use this product.

02:06:36.420 Garai.

02:06:40.200 I...

02:06:40.840 What can I mean?

02:06:42.500 Yeah, you...

02:06:43.980 This is, uh...

02:06:44.640 It's all in action.

02:06:45.440 I have power of you.

02:06:46.280 You're my subject.

02:06:47.620 You should obey me blindly. 1.00

02:06:49.860 If I say that you should, um, jump up and down and scream as if you are a retard, you will jump up and down and scream like you're a retard. 1.00

02:06:59.300 I'm powerful. 1.00

02:07:00.640 I am a tyrant of you.

02:07:03.220 And I enjoy it because I'm a politician.

02:07:06.420 Yeah.

02:07:08.340 Yeah. 1.00

02:07:10.180 Fuck. 1.00

02:07:11.300 Yeah. 1.00

02:07:12.480 Uh...

02:07:13.900 I mean, you know...

02:07:15.600 70 years in prison.

02:07:20.100 In federal prison.

02:07:22.680 In federal prison.

02:07:25.180 For violating what has to be not even a law written by Congress, but a...

02:07:32.060 A regulation.

02:07:32.640 A regulation imposed by the Food and Drug Administration under color of law.

02:07:41.520 Yeah, and so, um, this is...

02:07:43.700 That's, that's, it goes back to what I was talking about with legal pollution.

02:07:46.720 Because Congress has gotten so, so lazy that they just passed these enabling acts that grant these, uh, executive branch agencies with wide-sweeping powers to regulate how they see fit.

02:08:02.840 And, uh, those regulations then are treated as if they're black-letter law in federal code.

02:08:11.460 Wow.

02:08:13.000 This is sick. 0.75

02:08:14.340 This is perverse.

02:08:16.800 Uh, I mean...

02:08:17.840 I mean, what smoke can you say, really?

02:08:20.740 It's just...

02:08:21.040 It's bare.

02:08:21.760 I mean, it's bare face, you know.

02:08:23.220 It just, this is, uh...

02:08:24.200 I mean, compare, compare this to Sweden, where if you, if you're a migrant, right, and you do your fiki-fiki on innocent children, right? 0.95

02:08:31.680 Maybe you'll get six months, maybe you'll get two years or something like that in prison.

02:08:37.520 This one made a, uh, a random solve with herbs in it, right?

02:08:41.740 A herb solve.

02:08:43.720 And he, um, they got 16, 16 years.

02:08:48.900 Um, yeah.

02:08:56.200 You know what?

02:08:57.000 Yeah, I mean...

02:08:57.820 I think...

02:08:59.540 I'll go ahead for a minute.

02:09:00.840 Well, we, we can cover a few more Cali-Yugu news stories, uh, if you'd like.

02:09:05.140 Yeah, I, I have one.

02:09:06.200 I have one.

02:09:06.860 Go for it.

02:09:07.440 Uh, let's see.

02:09:10.020 Oh, this is actually a link to another newspaper here.

02:09:13.260 Ex-defense minister says ISIS apologized to Israel for the November clash.

02:09:20.420 Timesofisrael.com.

02:09:24.200 Moshe Ya'alon's office refuses to elaborate after alluding to contact with terror groups.

02:09:30.840 Yeah.

02:09:32.340 Yeah.

02:09:33.100 Uh...

02:09:33.660 So, Moshe.

02:09:36.140 Is it good to you?

02:09:36.800 Oh, well.

02:09:38.040 Come here, Moshe.

02:09:39.380 Uh, Moshe, I don't know, I don't think he's...

02:09:42.040 You know, I don't know if he's unavailable for, for an analysis.

02:09:45.820 I mean, it's, he's very busy these days.

02:09:47.880 Come on.

02:09:48.580 Come on, Moshe.

02:09:49.440 Very, very busy these days, you know, I, I don't, can either confirm or deny is what

02:09:54.200 I'm probably going to, you know, hazard a guess as to be his answer.

02:09:57.980 Mm-hmm.

02:09:59.280 You know, um...

02:10:00.420 I, yeah.

02:10:01.700 I mean, but yeah, no, it's, I mean, again, there's not, you know, uh, not surprising.

02:10:07.160 Not surprising.

02:10:07.880 Shocking, but, you know, uh, morally, but, you know, really, this is, uh, part of the course.

02:10:13.840 Of course, of course, the Mossad is supporting the enemies of their enemies. 0.56

02:10:18.620 Well, I mean, the Israeli Air Force carries out airstrikes in support of ISIS.

02:10:22.200 I mean, come on.

02:10:22.660 Right, I mean, just directly.

02:10:23.600 It's not, you know, you can go on YouTube and you can watch videos of Israeli jets bombing,

02:10:27.840 you know, downtown Damascus.

02:10:30.400 Uh, like, recently.

02:10:31.640 You know, it's not, uh, you, they don't care.

02:10:35.360 So, really, I don't think this is a surprise to anybody, you know, except, you know, Salafis 1.00

02:10:41.080 will obviously counter-signal it, but, you know, fuck them. 1.00

02:10:44.560 Yeah, fuck Salafis. 1.00

02:10:45.940 Salafis are literally the golem drones of Israel at this point. 1.00

02:10:51.980 Well, ISIS is, apparently, and this is kind of weird, very weird.

02:10:57.540 Well, I mean, Salafism was always a tool of the deep state. 1.00

02:11:02.020 It was created by the CIA and British intelligence from the very get-go.

02:11:06.540 Precisely.

02:11:07.360 Yeah, uh, Jay Dyer was talking about that in, uh, Devil's Game was the book he was, uh, discussing.

02:11:12.120 But, yeah, I mean, the, uh, because, yeah, it can be used as a tool of political destabilization

02:11:17.640 in that region.

02:11:18.860 Um, I mean, and this is the thing, it's because the Western powers, you know, realize that when

02:11:24.160 Napoleon invaded Egypt and, uh, they called, uh, Mujahideen fighters against him.

02:11:29.960 All right?

02:11:32.080 And so it's, uh, very, very difficult to do this, um, with an invading force because this

02:11:37.260 is the sort of resistance you face.

02:11:41.680 Anyway.

02:11:42.120 Yeah, so I'm going to, I'm going to hit one more story here.

02:11:47.140 How about, uh, this?

02:11:49.720 Ha, ha, ha, ha.

02:11:51.340 I consider myself trans species.

02:11:55.860 Fantasy fan transforms himself into an elf with 25,000 pounds of plastic surgery, including

02:12:02.140 full body hair removal, skin bleach, and eye coloring.

02:12:04.760 Like, from thedailywale.co.uk.

02:12:08.880 This, this is, this is literally what's so popular in a joke about, I don't know, last

02:12:13.160 year or something, about, you know, the Jewish dad, right, Carl's dad, wanted to become a

02:12:17.680 dolphin, right?

02:12:18.600 And he's trans dolphin, right? 0.96

02:12:20.620 Now we have trans elves. 1.00

02:12:23.080 We have, we have, like, trans dragons. 0.99

02:12:25.380 I mean, those exist as well.

02:12:26.760 We have, you know, trans cats. 0.99

02:12:29.100 I mean, that Norwegian lady. 1.00

02:12:30.080 Um, Finn, was it Finn? 0.95

02:12:33.180 Maybe soon we'd have, like, a trans demon or something. 1.00

02:12:36.600 That would be fun. 0.93

02:12:37.220 I don't doubt it.

02:12:38.280 Those are called possessed people.

02:12:42.140 Well, of course.

02:12:43.440 You know, um, I mean, I can read a little bit of the story.

02:12:47.100 I mean, it's pretty, it's pretty basic.

02:12:48.660 It's pretty, you know, I'm going to read you the, the bullet points here.

02:12:52.940 Luis Padron, 25, became obsessed with elves after being bullied as a child.

02:12:57.680 The Argentinian.

02:12:58.800 Ha, ha, ha.

02:13:00.080 Ha, very white, ha. 0.98

02:13:01.740 He's got an obsession with becoming white. 0.66

02:13:03.580 And became determined to look like his favorite fantasy character.

02:13:08.680 Now, after his 4,000 pound a month ritual applying creams, dyes, and treatments, he has

02:13:14.400 spent almost 25,000 pounds on surgery, including a liposuction on his jaw, a nose job, full

02:13:19.620 body hair removal, an operation to change his eye color.

02:13:22.580 God have mercy on us.

02:13:24.880 Oh, my goodness.

02:13:25.820 Oh, he's, oh, his eyes is red.

02:13:29.980 Uh.

02:13:31.160 Why is his eye red? 0.92

02:13:32.460 Okay, first he just looks like a transsexual. 0.98

02:13:38.920 Now he looks like a transsexual elf. 1.00

02:13:41.720 He doesn't even look like a male elf. 0.99

02:13:44.020 He looks like a transsexual elf. 1.00

02:13:45.640 Well, that's the whole point, is the androgyny type deal. 0.97

02:13:48.600 I mean, you can do, you can be that without being an elf, Lorian.

02:13:53.220 He's an elf.

02:13:54.420 Well, you know, this is this. 0.79

02:13:55.740 Why is he a transsexual elf? 1.00

02:13:57.420 What do you want me to say?

02:13:58.980 I'm not going to opine on the particular psychological idiosyncrasies that has led to this.

02:14:04.500 Looking at the pictures, it's not even like traditional European elf.

02:14:09.700 I mean, this is like anime character elf. 0.99

02:14:11.660 This is like World of Warcraft shit. 0.99

02:14:14.680 Yeah. 1.00

02:14:15.060 I played as a blov, and now I want to be a blov. 0.92

02:14:20.420 Right, yeah.

02:14:21.900 This is, again, that radical liberation philosophy of you are not your body.

02:14:28.860 You are your mind trapped in this prison of meat.

02:14:33.640 And this prison of meat is ultimately meaningless, and you can shape it however you want.

02:14:37.980 Another thing which is kind of interesting is that he's, I mean, he doesn't want to be human, right?

02:14:43.520 So, first of all, he's trying to deface himself from being in the likeness of God, right?

02:14:47.980 You know, like image like as God.

02:14:49.560 You know, he's still in the image of God, but, I mean, he tries to blur away that with this, you know, human gobbledygook.

02:14:57.560 And so he's trying to make himself into something else, right?

02:15:04.080 Not even human.

02:15:05.560 He's trying to remake himself into this abstract ideal, this idol he has created in his mind.

02:15:13.000 He's literally just reducing himself to nothing, literally nothing, because he's not even trying to reduce himself to, like, an andragonous human.

02:15:20.920 He's trying to reduce himself to an andragonous non-human. 0.98

02:15:24.280 So he's not even, he's not even, it's like he doesn't even want to be a person.

02:15:28.660 He just wants to be some sort of primitive and dragon and prima materia or something.

02:15:33.000 Well, we actually covered somebody who was doing something similar from Los Angeles, a gook, who wanted to be, like, a genderless alien. 1.00

02:15:40.500 I don't know if you remember that story.

02:15:41.940 Yeah, exactly.

02:15:42.540 I mean, it's the same thing there.

02:15:44.780 I mean, it's a simple.

02:15:45.420 I mean, that's, this is, it's pure, it's just straight about it, man.

02:15:48.700 It's not.

02:15:48.920 It's a basic spiritual atoms.

02:15:50.840 And even, even trying to blur out the fact that you are an existing person.

02:15:58.000 Because if you're not human, you're not a person, right?

02:16:00.900 Right?

02:16:01.900 Well, unless you're, like, God, or angels, or...

02:16:04.540 Well, yeah, body was probably...

02:16:05.860 Maybe that's serious, I don't even know.

02:16:08.060 Yeah, maybe...

02:16:08.640 Well, not that God is, but I'm too tired for stuff.

02:16:11.240 Anyway, this is bad.

02:16:12.420 But, with that, we come to the end of our episode.

02:16:16.680 This is what happens when you play too much World of Warcraft.

02:16:19.520 Essentially.

02:16:19.880 Don't play World of Warcraft. 1.00

02:16:21.160 Cancel your subscription, autistic faggots. 1.00

02:16:24.040 Yeah, I'm your host, Florian Geyer. 1.00

02:16:27.020 Thank you, listeners, for joining us.

02:16:29.920 Please tune in next time.

02:16:31.380 Joining me this week, we had a special guest, Ian Michael Jones, who, as you no doubt realize at this point, had to leave early on.

02:16:37.820 But he will be returning for a full-length episode to discuss libido of Dhaminandi, sexual faculty, and political control.

02:16:47.000 Joining me this week, I had co-host Vajirva Hans.

02:16:49.840 Vajirva, thank you for joining me.

02:16:51.980 It's good to be here.

02:16:54.200 And Doc Savage.

02:16:55.580 Doc, thanks for coming on.

02:16:56.700 It's a pleasure.

02:16:58.620 Thanks for having me.

02:16:59.820 And remember, kids, just say no if you're left with you.

02:17:03.900 Precisely.

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Mysterium Fasces Episode 26 — Usury, E. Michael Jones

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