Mysterium Fasces

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00:01:27.340 Welcome to Mysterium Faschis, episode 29, Esoteric Shitposting.

00:01:37.020 Thank you for joining us again today, listeners.

00:01:39.380 I'm your host, Florian Geyer.

00:01:40.960 I'm joined today by my co-host, Doc Savage. Thanks for coming on, Doc.

00:01:46.260 Always a pleasure there, Florian. It's a lovely day here in Texas, and it's always a good day to hail victory and praise Jesus. Amen.

00:01:55.600 Exactly. Amen. As you say, you know, it's the same here in Canada. It's a beautiful, lovely summer day, and it's just the two of us.

00:02:03.240 And so we're here today to discuss some selected topics in kind of esoterica and, you know, kind of fun, more out there things to discuss.

00:02:16.600 But before we get into the main topics for today, and there are several of them, there's some articles of housecleaning that we have to do.

00:02:25.440 Once again, I would encourage our listeners to donate to the WeSearcher Daily Stormer SPLC Legal Defense Fund.

00:02:35.180 That's critical. You know, I've explained it in the last couple of episodes. I'm going to put that in the description.

00:02:41.040 So make sure you go and do that.

00:02:42.940 The second thing to announce is that our co-host, Graeva Hans, has decided that he will no longer be participating in Mysterium Fascis.

00:02:51.660 And he's decided that he's no longer interested, you know, in politics for the moment.

00:02:59.260 So, you know, we regret this. Obviously, there's nothing wrong between Graeva Hans and us. We're still good friends.

00:03:04.560 And, you know, we invite him back on the podcast anytime he likes.

00:03:07.480 And we certainly understand his frustration with politics. I think that we all get there sometimes.

00:03:15.860 But, no, he's focusing on his spiritual life. So, you know, everybody should ought to pray for Graeva Hans, and maybe one day he'll come back on.

00:03:25.700 So.

00:03:28.740 Amen. Amen.

00:03:30.360 Graeva, you will be missed, but what you're doing is perhaps the most important thing.

00:03:37.080 And don't let anyone tell you that what you do is impractical or not helpful to yourself or to the movement or to the race at large.

00:03:53.120 This – our salvation will be primarily spiritual, and only once achieved spiritually will it be actualized in the physical world.

00:04:01.500 So, God bless you, sir.

00:04:03.400 Yeah, totally. And then we've been talking about this time and time again.

00:04:08.300 So, I would encourage your listeners to check out our episode on spiritual warfare.

00:04:12.040 If they haven't already, that was a great episode.

00:04:13.820 And we kind of lay out all of those principles there.

00:04:15.640 And we're going to be talking about some of the different – some topics that interface with this.

00:04:21.320 So, now, originally when we had set up this podcast, we were going to invite Johnny Monoxide from the Paranormies on.

00:04:27.380 You know, shout out to those guys, great little podcast, just to kind of discuss all sorts of different, you know, Mysterium quality, you know, esoteric, personal, autistic topics that interest us, right?

00:04:42.960 And so, unfortunately, Johnny had real-life commitments, as many of us do.

00:04:46.840 So, it's just Doc and I here today to hopefully put together something fairly entertaining for our listeners.

00:04:56.340 Now, there are many different things that we could discuss, and we've got a good little list before us.

00:05:03.860 And so, one of the things I wanted to start out by discussing was the link between mechanization and spirituality.

00:05:10.640 Now, not usually seen as linked topics, but if you've been listening to our show, I think you will understand that there really is no division between, quote-unquote, technology, technique, and, quote-unquote, magic or magic-ing.

00:05:31.240 These are really one and the same thing.

00:05:32.600 Exactly.

00:05:34.600 And this is the thing to understand, is that our whole Western mindset has been conditioned by this Cartesian bifurcation of reality.

00:05:43.500 We view the spiritual and the physical as fundamentally separate realms of existence.

00:05:49.800 And there is this sort of hard veil that exists between these planes that prevents them from having, you know, serious or harmonious interaction with one another.

00:06:01.800 And this is, I don't think that this is true at all.

00:06:04.600 It certainly isn't the way that our ancestors or any of the world's ancient traditions viewed this topic.

00:06:12.500 There was always an understanding that the physical was a direct reflection of the spiritual, and that the spiritual world exists on top of the physical in direct connection and harmony with it, or cacophony.

00:06:25.040 And so when we talk about the physical realities around us, whether it's our civilization or technology or even, you know, the regularity, say, of natural physical laws,

00:06:41.920 these all point towards the, like a higher spiritual firmament, a higher level of reality that is reflected in its physical instantiation.

00:06:53.880 This is the ideal incarnated in the real, so to speak.

00:06:57.280 And why this is important and what we're going to talk about today is the connection between technology, mechanization, and death, spiritual death, which is sin.

00:07:10.460 So to understand the connection, which I think will be useful for discussing the rest of our topics today.

00:07:17.380 In the Garden of Eden, God said to Adam and Eve, on the day that you eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you will surely die.

00:07:31.580 He said, you know, he very clearly says, well, the punishment for sin is death.

00:07:36.660 And so on a very basic level, this is what man incurred by deviating from God's cosmic order.

00:07:42.980 By sinning against God, man introduced death.

00:07:46.600 Our patriarch, Adam, introduced death.

00:07:48.440 And we inherit from our fathers, you know, everything that makes up our nature, our genetics, our spirit, and so on.

00:07:58.680 And so we inherit this death and this concupiscence, this tendency towards corruption from Adam.

00:08:04.680 And so for Christians, and this is something that is a radical piece of Christian theology that's very, very different from almost every other religion in the world.

00:08:12.020 Death is not natural.

00:08:14.780 Death is something that's unnatural.

00:08:17.660 Not something created by God.

00:08:19.540 God created life.

00:08:21.720 But rather it was spiritual evil, the devil, you know, and man through his own acquiescence to the temptation that introduced death into the world.

00:08:33.340 And from that death comes corruption.

00:08:35.100 And I know, Doc, that we've had, you know, pretty extensive, you know, discourses about Genesis.

00:08:40.300 But in the Garden of Eden, you know, before Adam fell from grace, you know, they didn't, they were, they didn't even eat animals.

00:08:45.320 Animals didn't die.

00:08:48.880 You know, there was, there was no seasons.

00:08:50.480 It's difficult to kind of break down succinctly, but the existence in Eden before the fall was on the level of universals or a formal existence, to use a more technical language.

00:09:20.480 There was, you know, in a way, you know, the, the, the first division was between the universal in particular.

00:09:31.380 Um, and, and then, and then once that happened, that allowed the next division, uh, almost, and, and in a way, consequentially, that would have to allow alienation from the principle of life, from the spirit.

00:09:50.560 Exactly. And that's exactly what we're talking about, is that Adam in the Garden of Eden, he was saturated with the grace of God.

00:09:58.260 Um, and what that, you know, when we say that, that Adam walked with God in the Garden, that's poetical.

00:10:04.600 Um, but it's also literal, uh, if you consider this to be a manifestation of the pre-incarnate Logos, who created human nature, this Christ.

00:10:12.960 But it's to say that in, in Eden, all of creation was filled with God's vivifying energy and grace and was one with him through his, uh, through, through his energy or his grace, his light, his truth.

00:10:26.780 And so Adam, uh, was in total harmony and unity with God and the created order that he had made and made him as the, the high priest, the custodian, uh, the, the steward of.

00:10:39.820 And this unity existed not only between Adam, but also between him and his wife and them and God.

00:10:46.320 And what happened was that the, the original sin was the separation of Adam and Eve from God and his grace and his love, from his, his energy, his light, this vivifying principle, the, the, the manifestation of the formal spiritual world.

00:11:04.760 And this is, if you look at Genesis, that's why Adam can name the animals.

00:11:09.900 God gives him the power to name the animals because he can see them truly for what they are.

00:11:14.000 And a name is not just, um, this, you know, nominal, uh, you know, byword that we use to describe, you know, some, uh, a creature that we run into in, in the ancient world, a name is an icon.

00:11:28.000 You know, the name is the physical manifestation of the spiritual form of the, uh, of the object.

00:11:37.380 The name, like an icon, it draws you deeper into the spiritual reality of the physical or, uh, a non-physical thing.

00:11:47.980 And so that's why for, you know, if you think about very famously, you know, like, um, uh, the Jesus prayer, right?

00:11:53.520 Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

00:11:55.500 Well, the, the, the cornerstone of that prayer is the name of Jesus, Lord Jesus Christ.

00:12:00.480 Because we believe that the name of Jesus is in itself, it's holy, it's sacred.

00:12:04.840 It's not just, uh, nominally important.

00:12:07.520 It was, you know, preordained before the creation of, uh, the world and so on.

00:12:13.020 And so Adam in the garden had this ability to see the true nature of the world around him.

00:12:19.960 He wasn't, he was totally rational in that sense.

00:12:22.880 He wasn't separated from the created order, but he was totally in harmony with it.

00:12:27.860 And that this separation occurred after his fall from grace.

00:12:34.500 Now, Doc, anything you want to add or should I keep plowing on?

00:12:40.960 So, um, I, I always, I always have to wonder if, you know, if the language we're using is, is getting across.

00:12:50.320 But, um, this, this, this, this is essentially a recapitulation of what Plato is talking about with, um, when, when, when, when, when, when experiential knowledge comes in through the senses, right?

00:13:08.260 The only way that we could recognize something as being true is if it already existed within us in some fashion, if, if, if that makes sense, right?

00:13:19.280 So, you know, how, how, how do you know to stop looking for an answer if you don't already know what the answer should look like in the first place?

00:13:27.340 So, the, and, and, and, and from this, this, uh, paradox arises the doctrine of the universals or the forms.

00:13:39.780 Um, the only reason that we know what a chair is, is that there is a perfect conception, a universal chair that all other chairs, just to use a very, very, very mundane, uh, example.

00:13:57.580 But all other chairs are examples, instances of the one chair, as it were.

00:14:04.720 uh and and and and and and these aren't this isn't an abstraction right just call this an

00:14:18.240 abstraction is essentially to deny the doctrine and that that starts you on a slippery slope

00:14:24.240 to nominalism where things are what they are because we impose meanings from within us onto

00:14:30.820 the exterior world and that way is is the madness that we see all around us today right and this is

00:14:37.500 actually bringing us really close and so that's for christians we don't have any um you know unresolved

00:14:43.420 dialectical tensions because we believe that the the absolute ideal uh that which is the logos the

00:14:49.780 the highest of anything that can be discerned as an entity at all which is who jesus is the image

00:14:55.600 the icon of the father everything that is uh effable about god we see yet in the icon of the son

00:15:03.580 and so for us that perfect reality is incarnate becomes totally wrapped up in human existence

00:15:12.280 and so the the ideal always is instantiated in the in the real for christians

00:15:17.700 right and that's that's what what is very very important to remember now why this is is

00:15:24.940 is important is because what happens with mechanization is that with mechanization man

00:15:32.520 further and further removes himself from the natural order of the world he uses machines

00:15:38.200 to project and amplify his power now i'm not saying machines are bad in and of themselves please but

00:15:44.060 just just you know bear with us that he uses uh machines to amplify his power by learning the secrets

00:15:51.660 of the universe its physical laws uh the the modes of operation the logic behind which uh it functions

00:15:58.800 man uses this knowledge to increase his power over it his dominion over it and manipulate it to his end

00:16:07.140 and separates himself further and further from the natural uh the natural order by dominating it

00:16:13.240 by asserting his own will on top of it by creating his own world through the use of technology

00:16:19.860 and what happens is that this um you know there's there's power and direction right and so power

00:16:28.360 in and of itself is not bad man has this power to use for good technology can be used for good

00:16:33.400 but what we see is that you know over the last 200 years we've had um an unparalleled unparalleled

00:16:41.180 exponential explosion in our level of technological sophistication is that it has brought with it

00:16:46.360 uniformly death that the 20th century is the bloodiest century that we have on recorded uh in recorded history

00:16:54.980 hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of people

00:17:00.480 killed murdered through the use of um mechanization you know weaponry

00:17:08.160 and so what we find is that as reality tends to get more fragmented as man becomes more fragmented from

00:17:17.680 the natural order as there are greater levels of distance between him and the natural laws

00:17:23.940 we find that death is introduced and so that mechanization has a spiritual quality and it tends to

00:17:32.280 break down the life which is uh naturally endowed in creation

00:17:38.200 so doc i don't know you please please go ahead you know well yeah so um first of all um

00:17:51.400 we the the machine as a concept um really gets going gets its impetus uh first arises in in a

00:18:06.160 meaningful way in human consciousness with the greeks and particularly in greek temples where uh

00:18:14.520 machining machines were used to produce miracles on demand to wow uh the faithful at these temples

00:18:25.280 um and of course we have to understand that these cults that the the cults of the of the cities

00:18:34.400 of the polis uh of the greek city states they weren't religions in in in the capital r sense that uh

00:18:44.200 that christianity is a world religion or islam uh there's there's no real doctrine uh at best

00:18:53.640 there are there's a there's a sense of aesthetics and and and a inchoate sense of uh of justness and

00:19:01.340 rightness uh but the greeks really look to philosophy to philosophy to answer what how should we live in the

00:19:07.920 real world which is why for them philosophy was such a big deal with the exception of the the mysteries i

00:19:13.120 would say yes well i mean and the mystery schools were the other answer right yeah um and and and the

00:19:19.940 philosophers often started mystery schools i mean um when the very first mystery schools was uh founded

00:19:26.800 by disciples of pythagoras um but the reason why that they're needing to wow these people who are

00:19:35.400 coming to sacrifice to the gods is because the temples are businesses

00:19:38.900 the very first banks the very first economic rents extracted from society were these these pagan temples

00:19:50.160 exactly exactly in rome the imperial treasury was held by the priests of uh saturn

00:19:56.400 um so if if if if you believe that that our existence is nothing but material

00:20:10.000 uh then that's bad enough but if you actually believe that everything everything

00:20:18.400 everything everything every thing qua thing has a material and a uh formal a universal mental uh

00:20:31.520 conscious consciousness to it as well as a spiritual reality in a three-fold uh map of of of existence

00:20:42.880 then what you're doing by by by building this machine to attract worship is

00:20:52.340 it is uh not just idolatry but uh a mechanized idolatry it's it's it's a it's a it's a it's a

00:21:04.220 machine of a false worship exactly exactly and that's kind of what has to be understood is that

00:21:12.720 there is has always been a very very close and tight association between uh machines and uh

00:21:19.680 and religion so going back to our our main point is if you've listened to the last

00:21:24.740 uh the last some of our other are you occult theater 1488 episodes which this is by the way um you'll

00:21:36.180 know that they're the scientific method um the royal society emerged directly from you know basically

00:21:43.440 kabbalism emerged directly from from uh uh magic and the idea of the connection between the the secret

00:21:52.580 uh hidden you know occult which is what that means the secret hidden uh physical knowledge like for

00:21:59.300 instance if we think about pythagoras you know the pythagorean theorem you know people died

00:22:05.100 people murdered each other to protect that secret right that mathematical principle was so uh was at

00:22:13.700 one point you know occult knowledge you know but all of our you know all 14 year old algebra students

00:22:21.780 learn it today our geometry students rather and so um what has there's been this this close and

00:22:28.960 tight association between secret knowledge of the physical world and secret knowledge of the

00:22:34.160 spiritual world because they're both predicated on the worldview that the physical world has laws and

00:22:40.520 has rules that come from the spiritual world that its reality its existence is derived from the

00:22:47.800 spiritual existence which is more real and has more precise laws and so on and that by knowing these

00:22:55.320 things you can begin to manipulate the spiritual world as the physical and so this is you know this goes

00:23:02.400 back into antiquity into into beyond antiquity that there's this a close and tight association

00:23:08.760 between the ability to mechanize the ability to construct complicated machines and manipulate the material world

00:23:15.940 and the same process in the spiritual well it's it's interesting you bring that up because uh we know from

00:23:24.440 revelation that the first cities are built by uh cain and then his disciple um uh nimrod and um uh that

00:23:36.720 the city itself is a grand machine um so i i i you know i i don't think we have any choice but to be highly

00:23:47.540 skeptical of civilization as a skeptical of civilization as a concept and i i i know that for many people

00:23:54.280 civil what they what what they mean when they say civilization is high art and and beauty and i have

00:24:02.680 nothing against any of that but civilization as in um urbanized living as a a a mass life

00:24:15.460 uh i i don't think anyone can disagree that um that uh the voice of the of the mob the voice of the

00:24:24.480 masses is uh the voice of the demon yeah um yeah exactly that's the first thing that the canaanites do

00:24:33.020 is that they found the city and have sex i mean literally go read genesis i mean you can see

00:24:38.580 that's what happens every time people do that anyway i'm not gonna get that's a different tangent

00:24:42.980 so yeah what i wanted to do is i wanted to to establish and demonstrate for our listeners that

00:24:48.280 there has always been uh understood uh an intimate connection between mechan uh between technology and

00:24:57.220 the spiritual and the great irony is that we live in an age where um you know the the academy you know

00:25:03.620 the the priests of empirical science fervently deny this they fervently deny their own history

00:25:09.280 uh the fact that empiricism comes from these routes because of course they've rejected um the spiritual

00:25:16.600 world upon which the empirical method is predicated to begin with you know like how you have you know if

00:25:23.020 you don't have a spiritual existence um you know how can you uh substantiate the logic

00:25:31.200 right i mean think about it like this the um so you know aristotle was the was one of the men who

00:25:42.860 came up with the formal rules of logic and so a sophist came to him and said to him you know

00:25:47.800 aristotle what if i don't believe in your logic and aristotle pointed out that he was using logic to

00:25:54.060 make an argument against logic that the very nature of our language and communication implies

00:25:59.580 cohesiveness that the words that we speak have meaning and reference uh that's not arbitrary

00:26:05.100 that has uh points towards something that's you know real and so but these the this logic this uh

00:26:13.240 this quantity or the substance that gives uh intelligibility to our interaction i mean you can't

00:26:19.320 find it in the physical world it's transcendental it's everywhere and nowhere the order is all around

00:26:25.980 us but we can't you know pick up order unless you go to divine liturgy then you can pick it up in the

00:26:30.940 body and blood of christ um and so the the what happens with empiricism is you know the the early

00:26:40.220 um what you know enlightenment you know mainly french and and english uh you know empiricists almost

00:26:46.780 all were kind of alchemists or you know christians of some sort they certainly believed and this was an

00:26:53.820 integral part of their worldview they believed that the the material interacted directly with spiritual

00:26:58.440 what happens in england as this um empirical tradition starts to get more radical they begin

00:27:05.820 to divorce themselves from the existence of the spiritual world and so it gets to the point where

00:27:10.300 david hume admits well you know if you're like a natural if you're a true empiricist and you just

00:27:15.420 believe in only the material realm then you know you can't really substantiate empiricism

00:27:20.060 well yeah no i mean if if if meanings are um completely internal completely nominal then uh we

00:27:33.420 have no reason to expect that um any sensory information will remain consistent over time right

00:27:40.700 because right exactly so that's the thing it's like how do we know that that like the numbers that

00:27:45.660 the greeks used are the same numbers as we use how do we know that the number one or the number two

00:27:51.500 has not changed its meaning we'll think about that how do we know that because we know other words

00:27:58.860 change their meaning other concepts change their meaning over time things like love or other social

00:28:05.420 contracts political theories what about mathematics why why don't things like uh triangles or numbers why

00:28:12.700 don't they change it's because they have a spiritual existence right obviously uh outside of the the

00:28:19.420 physical world well uh i mean first of all because if they did it would make reason and logic impossible

00:28:27.980 and everything would be uh what was how does how does shakespeare put it sound and fury signifying nothing

00:28:34.700 exactly so it's it's ridiculous therefore wrong right as a take a logic course okay

00:28:42.540 if it's incoherent it's wrong pure and simple and then also as you say if it has a spiritual

00:28:50.540 existence then it has an existence outside of us right and that's really why uh that these laws of

00:28:58.300 logic which is really all that mathematics is are eternal and they can't change meaning exactly

00:29:05.100 exactly and this is the image just completely you know destroys um this this view uh like this

00:29:11.500 flux view of the universe that we've talked about before this idea that everything's in constant

00:29:16.060 motion and if everything's perpetual evolution and that you know the the great forces of dialectical

00:29:22.940 history you know uh these titanic powers ironing out uh the course of reality oh it's absurd it's

00:29:30.300 absurd you know the we have real fixed laws to our universe you know a real order a real order that

00:29:37.660 you can perceive and understand and interact with and commune with even and so just as an aside um

00:29:45.340 you will you will find um if you take a logic course uh and you have a halfway educated instructor

00:29:52.860 you will find that the there will be people who tell you that we can't trust logic because logic has to

00:30:00.540 be based upon irrational illogical axioms that we just accept but i mean yeah i mean everything that we

00:30:11.340 know is is true we have to take on faith essentially at its at its most ground level we have to have a trust

00:30:18.940 in that reality is real that sense perception is real that we are real uh and once we do that

00:30:28.780 we are then trapped logically into accepting that there are things that we can't see that are in

00:30:35.660 fact real because if there weren't then this entire system falls apart exactly and that's that's the

00:30:42.060 critical thing is that logic does not substantiate itself it has to be assumed and we assume it because

00:30:47.980 it presents itself to us on just a raw level like that you know if we were to do any a thing otherwise

00:30:53.900 we go crazy by definition we resolve into absurdity and so it is a fate like accepting logic is to is to

00:31:00.860 accept you know uh this reality on faith there's no science that demonstrates logic you can't prove it

00:31:08.140 right and so all systems of philosophy or organized thought or science okay science just means you know

00:31:14.060 organized rationalized information or thought all of these systems are predicated upon this super rational

00:31:20.860 idea of logic

00:31:23.900 and so this is this is why this is like ultimately the the failing of of pure philosophy or pure reason

00:31:31.980 is that it can never you can't complete the system you can't uh you know it doesn't it doesn't it

00:31:39.020 doesn't prove itself ultimately logic and and rationality and order are tools that enable us to live

00:31:46.860 right uh that's that's what it's about it's about life

00:31:49.580 you know and that's for us as national socialists and as christians this is that's the core center of

00:31:55.980 our worldview is life and that's why we do the things we do and advocate what we advocate for because

00:32:01.260 it's it's about establishing and maintaining life

00:32:06.060 and life comes from adherence to the natural order

00:32:12.940 and um i i will say that just because that we um we are about life we are fundamentally about living and

00:32:21.740 um prospering and uh improving right the the pursuit of excellence the pursuit of virtues um we are about

00:32:32.700 that but what we are not about is preserving this uh imperfect tragic existence for the sake of of

00:32:43.820 of of of worldly pleasures which is you know we're not pro-death we're anti-corruption and

00:32:54.700 it with that that's why we have we must must must view this sort of vampiric transhumanism tendency as

00:33:05.100 an enemy of the natural order it it's it's not that we are pro-death it's that

00:33:10.940 there is a path to everlasting life it's already been revealed to us and if you want it then well

00:33:19.500 y'all need jesus you know have a christus rex yeah pretty much and i think it's interesting i mean

00:33:27.260 i didn't mean to spend so much time on this one kind of uh tangent but i think this is is super

00:33:33.180 critical because if you don't understand this point you can't even begin to put together the

00:33:37.500 stranger parts of reality and create like a coherent world view and so before like that's why we needed

00:33:44.540 to spend 30 minutes just to establish this before we even like touch on kind of the more outlandish

00:33:48.940 subjects just to kind of show our listeners that this is all connected none of these none of these

00:33:57.500 parts of of life are are are separate from one another you know and that if we're we have a

00:34:02.940 world view that's based on truth then we need to respond to the phenomenon that's presented to us

00:34:11.100 and that's what it's about and so we can't uh we can't just ignore strange topics because uh you

00:34:17.340 know they're odd we have to you know we have to think about them and so i mean this is this episode

00:34:22.540 kind of was meant to be a little less serious but you know we're we're really autistic so that's

00:34:27.500 that's that's right out the window right um but yeah i mean doc is there anything else you want to

00:34:32.940 say on this do you want to move into our selected topics because like i think we gave that a rather

00:34:37.340 full treatment well yeah i mean uh we i think we've established a groundwork right so anything we say

00:34:44.620 after this if you are if you're wondering well how did you leap to that conclusion well it's because of

00:34:51.980 what we just discussed okay so it's important to define our terms before we enter into these

00:34:58.860 muddy waters because things get confusing really quick once you start looking into um elliptony is

00:35:06.540 one of the fancier words i've seen for you right yeah and so the you know the it's unfortunate that

00:35:14.140 that johnny's not here because this was supposed to this this episode was supposed to be a kind of a

00:35:17.820 more casual conversation of like several things that we personally find interesting is that we

00:35:22.140 could kind of just you know speculate and shitpost and talk a little bit um so that's what we're still

00:35:25.900 going to try to do um so one of the things i mean since we're since we we talked about genesis right

00:35:31.740 in the beginning what i wanted to discuss was uh a subject you know of personal interest to me which

00:35:38.060 was uh the nephilim now for those of you who are not familiar with the nephilim the nephilim are

00:35:44.300 mentioned in in genesis and they're what it's a term that's used to describe the

00:35:51.740 offspring from uh fallen angels mating with the daughters of man

00:35:58.940 and genesis describes the the their progeny as giants the great men of old

00:36:06.620 now i mean you can read it right it's right now in genesis i don't have a citation for you right now

00:36:09.820 but it's it's right there and it's always been um a subject that's absolutely fascinating

00:36:13.740 maybe because the the the mythos capital m of the giant is uh ubiquitous literally everywhere

00:36:21.180 almost every single civilization has a conception of the giant or the you know the tall you know

00:36:27.500 ferocious uh you know uh creatures men

00:36:33.980 and so what i wanted to discuss was that i think what's important to illustrate here is that this

00:36:39.660 brings up several interesting caveats well you know to begin with so the the fallen angels

00:36:46.860 right mating with the daughters of man this uh there's several like metaphysical issues going on

00:36:52.620 here so these are supposed to be incorporeal powers but they have the ability to take on physical uh

00:37:00.380 physical properties to the point where they can inseminate women uh and more so that it quickens and is

00:37:06.780 uh is sustainable

00:37:09.660 yeah uh there i've there are multiple competing systems to try to explain um which unfortunately is

00:37:20.460 not very well explained in the text it's it's well prima facie evidence that this text is not by itself

00:37:27.500 sufficient it needs to come along with an oral tradition um but uh be you know we have multiple

00:37:34.300 oral traditions that explain it and so um there there is one idea that um if if if we take the position

00:37:43.580 that angels are beings of complete immateriality they are they are completely um

00:37:53.500 they're they're completely immaterial um some systems will say they're completely thought others will say

00:37:59.100 they're completely spirit um not all systems make distinctions between thought and spirit uh

00:38:05.020 unfortunately um but either way that they manifest um to um the daughters of men as sort of as dream

00:38:18.620 forms and that that they would seduce the women the um the immoral women in dreams and that this uh this

00:38:28.060 this this knowledge that that that was had in dreams would have real world physical effects

00:38:34.860 um there is also another school uh

00:38:39.420 uh from as as far as i know from the early church fathers that says no angels really aren't

00:38:46.860 purely immaterial that they have to have some material uh existence in order to explain the fact that they are

00:38:59.100 capable of change at all yeah if they're not capable of change then they could not have fallen

00:39:07.340 because they wouldn't have had a choice because they were incapable of change

00:39:10.380 um but that's not to say that they have matter in the same way that you and i have matter that our

00:39:17.180 everyday existence is material they have some sort of uh subtle matter uh which has

00:39:25.980 more subtle properties yeah exactly and so this is if we look throughout the old testament i mean we can

00:39:32.380 see even in the new testament there's example after example of after example of angels show up and

00:39:37.900 they interact with people physically um

00:39:40.380 you know they like they have meals with them uh abraham when he entertained the the very famous three

00:39:44.220 angels they they had a meal with him and then and then they went to um then they went to sodom and

00:39:50.460 had another meal

00:39:53.420 with a lot

00:39:55.980 and so uh you know and they they bring people stuff and they manipulate the physical world and

00:40:01.180 you know they kill people or save people or whatever right and so there's clearly

00:40:04.620 have a wrestling match right have a wrestle right wrestle with people and so it's it's clear that um

00:40:11.500 um when we're talking about uh bodiless powers right there's a lot you know is one one term

00:40:17.100 right celestial intelligences uh you know angelic spirits we're all talking about the same thing

00:40:23.980 because the word angel um from the greek word angelos means literally agent or messenger

00:40:29.980 um and so angelos could mean like a courier as well doesn't necessarily just mean a spirit

00:40:35.420 and so it can get kind of confusing um so but when we're talking about the spirits it seems to be

00:40:40.940 you know the case that um they do have physical properties that they have uh bodies of some sort

00:40:48.380 that they can um choose to interact with the world uh if they if they desire to

00:40:54.540 now the reason why i bring this up i mean it's because if you're i mean if you're a christian

00:40:59.740 and you accept revelation um i mean if you're not a christian you know this is going to sound

00:41:03.500 i mean it doesn't really matter you know um it you just have to kind of accept that this is the

00:41:10.220 presuppositions that we're working with i mean if you accept christian revelation if if you're uh

00:41:14.540 if you're a um if you're a sort of neo-pagan or heathen who believes in a polytheistic world

00:41:22.380 uh you also believe in spirits you also believe in giants entities and giants that do in fact

00:41:30.060 interact with the physical world i mean well unless you're the the atheist sort of pagan who says that

00:41:36.860 they're just archetypes but i mean if you really believe in the gods and like if you actually you

00:41:41.420 know sacrifice a horse at a blot and and and believe that this sacrifice is giving value uh

00:41:50.780 uh to uh to you know uh to to your you know giving credit to you to your your house with a

00:42:01.660 particular uh uh household uh deity you know then you have to believe that spirits can affect the

00:42:09.260 physical world like what are you doing otherwise right exactly exactly and this is this is one of the

00:42:14.380 the things that i think is so interesting about this specific topic is the ubiquity is there are

00:42:19.900 certain um mythological creatures or forms that we see uh universally and the two that come to mind

00:42:28.540 for me you know are like dragons and giants is that every culture seems to have a conception of both of

00:42:34.380 these uh both of these creatures you know and so that's the thing is the you you run into it becomes

00:42:43.700 difficult to uh substantiate opposition to their reality especially when here's the thing um there's

00:42:49.860 a there's a very very good book called um forbidden archaeology written by an archaeologist by the name

00:42:54.500 of michael cremo i believe and another guy and so you know just just on the surface there's loads loads

00:43:02.420 of empirical evidence uh to support the existence of giants i mean they you know if you look at the

00:43:07.620 ohio giant mounds you know they pull they pull these huge massive skeletons out of the earth all the time

00:43:14.660 right and so here's the you know like and so anybody listening if you you know if you think

00:43:17.620 like that they could uh you know if you think that the holocaust needs revising but that they

00:43:22.500 couldn't suppress archaeological evidence you know that's a little bit of a contradiction in the world

00:43:26.820 view but you can it's not it's not difficult like if you look it up there are many many many examples

00:43:31.940 with loads of photographic evidence of massive 12 and 13 foot skeletons being pulled out of coal seams in

00:43:37.700 ohio and in peru and in the middle east and everywhere and so the beginning what's more than

00:43:46.500 this these creatures are consistently consistently attested to uh not only in the old testament but in

00:43:53.540 other cultures as well i mean you see the epic of gilgamesh is a great example

00:44:00.340 um and but in you know in and so uh and the properties of of these giants are remarkably

00:44:06.980 consistent across multiple cultures right like they're always savage and violent and flesh-eating like

00:44:14.820 it they're they're never good they're never the good guys exactly exactly and so this is the this

00:44:22.980 is the thing is that we have you know this this you know and even in fairly recent history like if

00:44:28.980 we go back and we look at i mean let's say uh second book of samuel you know who who or first book of

00:44:34.820 samuel goliath is a giant you know or the books of kings there's one uh instance where they defeat a

00:44:42.900 philistine king and raid his city and he's got a bed and they measure it out and it's like 13 feet

00:44:48.500 long iron wrought iron bed frame you know and so this if you take like if you believe if you take

00:44:55.860 these to be at least you know historical you are telling us something of history at the very minimum

00:45:03.300 right and then this is these recent you know uh uh very very uh you know conservatively uh recent

00:45:11.300 and so the the question becomes like so that you have these these hybrid kind of uh physical

00:45:19.540 spiritual uh demonic entities that uh rule over these uh you know some of these um civilizations

00:45:29.940 and so there are all sorts of interesting things that are associated with with giants so there's an

00:45:35.460 understanding that there are different types of giants so there are um you know there's one one

00:45:42.820 type that's described as having you know fiery red hair and you know uh basically living in in the

00:45:49.140 wilderness in caves and in mountains and in forests and basically eating people uh being totally

00:45:55.300 cannibalistic and uncivilized not really wearing clothes and there are other types that are described

00:46:01.300 similarly but with with black hair all over their body like a monkey who live in swamps and forests

00:46:07.220 perhaps this is what uh sasquatch or bigfoot you know i wouldn't care to wouldn't care to speculate

00:46:12.900 too deeply and then there are also those who are just who you know are literate innumerate intelligent

00:46:18.740 and so on and interested in interacting with the affairs of human beings and that set themselves

00:46:22.980 up as warlords and as conquerors of men and there's always a tight and close association between

00:46:28.660 the nephilim between giants and magic a sorcery building yeah and city building sorcery exactly

00:46:37.940 you know i mean because you know and so it's the i think that like if you're a christian you actually

00:46:43.140 you know you believe it like you can't ignore this it's not a it's not something that you can

00:46:47.620 just say like is some sort of literary construct i mean it comes over up again and again and again

00:46:51.940 you know and in historical books of the bible

00:46:54.180 right like second samuel you know it's not just just an allegory

00:47:01.380 king david was a real man

00:47:05.540 and yeah i mean

00:47:08.580 the whole sort of new criticism is uh is absolutely disastrous for any real faith because once you start

00:47:17.460 saying oh well that's that's a metaphor that's just a story that is you know a bronze

00:47:24.020 age myth and it tells us good good lessons it you know it's not useless but it's not really true

00:47:31.780 in in in the you know the way science is true of course but okay so if king david is not entirely

00:47:40.580 factual then you know well how is it that we can say that that our lord jesus christ when he is born is a

00:47:52.420 is a literal descendant of david and heir to the throne of the kingdom of israel you know i and and

00:48:00.580 the farther you go back you know the the more critical it gets you know exactly if if the fall

00:48:07.620 of man the fall of our patriarch adam isn't real isn't isn't true in a capital t sense then what was the

00:48:16.100 point of the crucifixion exactly yeah yeah that's a good question theologically speaking yeah what's

00:48:21.780 the point right and i mean you know and of course this whole like textual criticism is dominating

00:48:27.620 dominated by jews and uh hard reform protestants right i mean i've read a lot i've read some of

00:48:33.300 this stuff it's not you know um that's the thing like i look and so anyway and then we're getting

00:48:40.420 into the ditch here but just to just to say like if you like if you take this seriously right and

00:48:45.540 you're interested in having a well-rounded world view then you have to like deal with these

00:48:49.380 uh anomalous accounts that come up in inspired scripture you know holy spirit is not lying

00:48:58.980 and what's more is we have also documents like the book of enoch right and the book of enoch is

00:49:04.180 quoted by the prophets now for those of you who weren't aware uh the book of enoch is is

00:49:09.380 for most most of christians it's it's extra canonical um so we don't consider it to be

00:49:14.100 inspired by the holy spirit but it purports to be written by um uh if you read in genesis enoch was

00:49:20.820 the father of noah who was taken up into heaven by god that's all that we know about him but it

00:49:26.260 purports to tell us something of the way that the earth was before the flood and the conditions that led to

00:49:33.300 um god getting so pissed off with everybody that he was uh ready to uh kill us all

00:49:39.380 and so that you know they talk about things like uh genetic modification

00:49:44.660 you know i mean like i'm not joking they talk about you know animal plant hybrids

00:49:49.940 and animal human hybrids right yeah animal human hybrids right all you know high high technology

00:49:58.340 all sorts of crazy crazy stuff and this is this book of enoch is quoted by i believe it's uh

00:50:03.060 joel or one of one of the prophets one of the minor prophets uh

00:50:06.820 he's quoting from it when he's talking about how things were before the flood

00:50:11.220 you know so you know so was he not inspired by the holy spirit the prophet

00:50:18.820 right and that's the thing and it's not to say that this is like infallible but it's saying that

00:50:21.940 this is telling can tell us something of the reality of the situation and so my personal what i what i

00:50:28.740 think even if it wasn't uh approved for use during liturgy that doesn't mean that the early church

00:50:35.220 didn't consider it uh worthy of study and reflection and learning lessons from exactly there are many

00:50:42.340 books that are virtually unknown today that were considered um

00:50:49.540 a good example of the proto-evangelium of james yeah exactly um uh what's the protestant term for

00:50:55.620 a deuterocanonical yeah well i know that's that's a that's the protestant term is apocryphal

00:51:00.900 well deuterocanonical is the legitimate orthodox term oh okay it just means second canon right so

00:51:09.540 um so yeah that's the thing so you we you know for instance like the i mean we can get into the

00:51:13.940 deuterocanonical books you know the deuterocanonical books were just understood to be

00:51:18.260 you know less important than the law and the prophets but also um inspired by the holy spirit

00:51:24.580 and what we what we mean when we say inspired by the holy spirit is conveying of truth as as being

00:51:33.940 a true work you know uh that's why the catholic church maintained a office of the censor in an

00:51:41.460 index prohibitorum is because a book that is a lie is very dangerous just to everyday living not not even

00:51:50.580 to speak of you know ultimate things right exactly and that's the thing right if you actually

00:51:57.140 and this is kind of going back to the world of your truth i mean do you if you do you believe

00:52:00.260 in truth right do you believe that there is uh absolute truth you know if a cup has 50

00:52:07.700 milliliters of water in it you know if i walk away does it stop having that much water does the volume

00:52:12.660 change no and if i go to the other side of the world is the volume the same yes it is

00:52:20.980 and so we you know people are perfectly readily willing to admit you know empirical truth you

00:52:24.820 know men will bet thousands of dollars you know if you you know if you bet your friend i you know

00:52:29.620 money that the the level would change right and he probably accepted that because he knows it's not

00:52:34.660 going to so men have faith men have so much faith in the consistency uh of the the truth of you know

00:52:41.300 sense data of empiricism right that they're willing to risk on it and so the to have this kind of faith

00:52:49.300 there in the in the physical world right and then to to um just totally uh divorce that from

00:52:59.780 anything else is is is uh ridiculous

00:53:05.140 and so what i'm saying is that if you believe in a in a worldview of truth right then you have to

00:53:09.300 understand that uh there there's one truth and then there's unlimited lies

00:53:15.700 and that you know if the if one plus one is two then every other combination is incorrect

00:53:26.100 and and what's what's really interesting as you as you swim deeper in these waters is that all of

00:53:32.580 these mystery occult magical systems of thought regardless of their historicity regardless

00:53:42.260 if they were invented yesterday or a thousand years ago they all claim some point of origin

00:53:51.380 in this um antediluvian pre-flood world they almost always they claim to come from atlantis

00:53:58.180 exactly exactly and this is the thing and so this this pre there there is only almost again a universal

00:54:04.580 conception you know in ancient civilizations that they came from a higher civilization that had

00:54:11.780 collapsed due to natural disaster or decadence or both and you know the idea of atlantis or hyperborea

00:54:21.620 right uh you know asgarada and so on the uh and that the this was like a high civilization with

00:54:33.700 advanced technology that collapsed due to you know uh internal and external pressures and that the

00:54:40.900 refugees and the descendants of those civilizations that had managed to preserve some core knowledge

00:54:47.060 from them went on to found egypt and sumeria and babylon and greece and and so forth and this is in

00:54:54.500 their own words this is how they understood themselves you know i mean the the uh this is where our ideas

00:55:00.020 of hyperborea come from yeah uh and and and all of these cultures have have stories telling of how beings from the sea

00:55:13.540 rose up to to to teach them the secrets of the fallen civilization um uh now i'm having a uh a senior moment uh an

00:55:26.180 early one and i i can't remember the names of the particulars but uh dagon is is maybe um anywho uh uh

00:55:37.380 uh this this this is not something that modern people are making up because it sounds like a fun

00:55:45.060 story this is the stories that these people told about themselves right exactly and that's and that's

00:55:52.900 you know and that's just the thing is is the you i think that our world is uh

00:56:02.660 older and much more complicated than anybody gives it credit for and that the the short-sightedness of

00:56:07.620 the modern era is that we think that we are at the absolute peak and fluorescence of human development

00:56:13.860 that there's never been high civilization on this planet before that there's never been advanced uh

00:56:19.620 technological understanding on the civilization before

00:56:24.900 and so for me you know i'm inclined to say no frankly that's not congruent with with what any of

00:56:29.060 uh capital t traditions teach about the history of the world and they teach that human beings come

00:56:34.420 from an exalted state that they fell from both civilizationally and spiritually

00:56:38.900 and you know there wouldn't be this popularity of this um ancient aliens um story that uh is quite

00:56:50.500 popular these days if it wasn't for quite a lot of incongruous unexplainable evidence and and and

00:56:59.540 and that and and and the the oh that's that's mythological that didn't happen explanation

00:57:05.620 um really is not very convincing for people um uh sorry to say uh or no sorry not sorry really but

00:57:17.300 uh that's not to say that i think that actual physical aliens from other planets came here and built

00:57:23.780 the pyramids that's also a um a very new story and a very new idea and that's something we're probably

00:57:32.740 going to get to here in a bit yeah exactly we're gonna get into that you know we're kind of kind

00:57:37.300 of coming to the end so i'll just focus a little stay on that and so this is

00:57:42.660 i mean these we have to ask these fundamental questions you know who are we where do we come

00:57:46.980 from you know what what's the foundation of our world view where where does our civilization have its

00:57:52.100 origins you know what the the assumptions of our ancient ancient ancestors and the progenitors of our

00:57:59.380 our faith and religion you know where where did they get their ideas from what what tradition did

00:58:04.020 they have did they just make it up right as as modernism would have you believe a just a pragmatic

00:58:09.460 you know uh tool to control the masses or the product of ignorance and or you know the the blending

00:58:15.780 of unconscious archetypes with evolutionary folkways you know is it just nihilism like is that's just

00:58:21.540 nihilism right that's what it gets back to i mean and this is one of the things that i mean as

00:58:26.580 a kind of a deviation that i kind of start to get frustrated with is when you're talking with

00:58:32.100 you know when you're talking with like materialists or secularists or whoever right who want to kind

00:58:38.820 of like respect and give lip service to like christianity but they want to reinterpret it through

00:58:43.940 like this kind of critical theory modernist lens you know that oh yeah the bible you know it tells us so

00:58:50.100 much about you know evolution and and you know the development of uh you know human consciousness and so

00:58:56.420 on and it's like obviously there's truth there i mean the bible does tell us about these things

00:59:01.140 sacred scripture does tell us about the cosmic order and human beings and so on but the the thing is is

00:59:06.180 like they're they're applying totally like modern you know they're they're reading this text through

00:59:10.740 presuppositions that never ever ever entered into the minds of its authors that's that's um that's a

00:59:18.820 really important point and i just want to i want to um co-sign that check there that we have to

00:59:25.860 understand that the story of progressive history right the story of progress the story of evolution of

00:59:34.180 lesser uh lesser beings giving rise to higher beings to less specialized beings giving rise to more

00:59:43.700 specialized beings to um to less ordered systems giving rise to higher ordered systems and this

00:59:50.580 story is is everywhere it's not just in the biological sciences that's what you have to

00:59:54.820 literally believe to believe modern cosmology that there was chaos and then out of that chaos

01:00:01.300 arose and rose an order and it's nonsense just on a basic level it not only is it nonsense it's it's

01:00:07.700 illogical it's it's non-sense it's not non-scientific non-scientific in a basic sense you know

01:00:15.380 because uh second law of thermodynamics energy tends towards entropy

01:00:22.740 right if in if anything a a serious scientific view of material reality would have to say that

01:00:31.780 uh that the the higher being gives way to the lesser being that the ordered system gives way to the

01:00:37.300 disordered system information is not uh is not in the information content of the system is not never

01:00:46.420 increased over time that's not fundamentally not how reality works and and no one acts as if they

01:00:53.140 believe that were true and so we were all you know all moderns are walking around in a sort of fugue state

01:01:00.660 of uh of cognitive dissonance uh because we we we we are required to to speak as if we believe that

01:01:09.780 we're evolving towards a higher state uh whether that higher state be uh uh the you know the the people

01:01:18.980 who really grind my gears are these uh so-called christian evolutionists who like the the the the

01:01:25.620 tayhard de shardin well tayhard de shardin was literally like a satanist yeah yeah like this

01:01:31.380 this alpha point that he's talking about yeah that's lucifer that's not jesus okay guys yeah i mean

01:01:37.780 i guess the the issue okay the issue that we run into is that if you if you actually take your world

01:01:42.660 view seriously and any any historian will tell you this is that when you're doing history if you begin

01:01:49.540 to analyze past historical events through your own historical paradigm it becomes historically

01:01:54.580 revisionist you know you're not going to get at the truth that whenever you're looking at history

01:02:01.140 and considering uh what occurred you have to put yourself in the mindset of those people who were

01:02:06.100 there at the time and how they were operating and that's how you begin to understand you know why

01:02:10.820 they did what they did and why they operate the way they operate and so with religion that you

01:02:15.700 personally appropriate you know that forms the core of your world view right when you begin to to

01:02:22.740 insert like uh when you begin to insert ideas like you know this tayhard de shardin style um stuff or

01:02:32.420 the critical textual tradition you know of germany this is that's not what that's not what the church

01:02:37.700 fathers understood the scripture to be it's not what the apostles understood scripture to be that's not

01:02:41.620 what the prophets you know understood it to be and to introduce these concepts radically uh radically

01:02:50.900 disorients and destroys uh the metaphysical narrative

01:02:57.620 it warps your world view totally because they're incompatible and that's the thing and it's just

01:03:02.260 for me like when i'm talking when i talk to people of other religions you know i don't uh

01:03:07.620 uh you know you don't you don't like you don't go and talk to like uh you know a muslim right and uh

01:03:15.780 you know begin to do to praise islam for how similar it is to your own way of thinking you know

01:03:21.540 that's ridiculous anybody with uh you know a set of balls just can recognize that people have

01:03:27.380 differences in opinions that are contradicting that if you have respect for the other person you

01:03:32.100 respect the fact that they believe things that contradict you and you don't try to impose your

01:03:38.260 own worldview upon them

01:03:45.860 so doc we've come to the end of our first hour we got a lot further on these subjects than i ever

01:03:51.220 thought we would uh frankly uh yeah i mean you get me going on any particular subject and i can i can

01:03:59.540 rant and rave and distract myself and go off on tangents for for a long time so i think we have

01:04:05.540 enough material here actually for another show so yeah we do we're not going to be able to get to

01:04:10.260 all of our material no but it's been very good so far so to our listeners we're going to come back

01:04:15.940 for our two we'll do another uh big tablespoon of esoteric shit posting and we'll do caliuga news so stay tuned

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01:11:07.540 I hope you had a good break. So we're going to get back into more discussion of selected topics. So we had a couple of things we wanted to talk about. We were thinking about talking about Lovecraft and Tolkien and the manifestation of the collective unconsciousness and drawing from the Akashic Records and so forth.

01:11:26.820 But that really could probably be its own podcast. And we want to have Kali Eugenics for you guys.

01:11:34.300 So what I wanted to talk about was the kind of go back to our original topic and the connection between very advanced technology, advanced spiritual reality, and then incorporeal powers or angels and demons as we want to talk about.

01:11:54.120 And so I think like a good example of this is real craft or UFOs or whatever you want to call it.

01:11:59.960 So the UFO phenomenon obviously came to its height in the 20th century, but it's not – this is by no means like a new thing.

01:12:16.380 I mean there's a – I think there's of course – there's chronicles and histories from every culture in the world, every civilization in the world, which – from, you know, many, many different time periods, which talk about, you know, flying orbs in the sky, flying celestial disks, lights which do battle in the heavens.

01:12:39.360 And there was – I think there's a very famous, you know, UFO battle over Frankfurt that they talk about in the medieval period where – I might be, you know, getting that wrong, but it was someplace in high Germany in – I think in the 15th or 14th century where some local monks, you know, basically chronicled where two – two squadrons essentially of bright orbs in the sky, you know, did battle with one another and, you know, were blown up and fell to the earth like lightning.

01:13:08.840 Yeah.

01:13:09.700 And so this is what – the reason why you bring it up is because, you know, I'm sure there are some people who are kind of shaking their head and so on and the craziness of it, but this is a demonstrable phenomenon.

01:13:21.160 These, you know, these, you know, UFOs or orbs or whatever, you know, they're not new.

01:13:27.720 They've been around for a long time.

01:13:28.780 People have been talking about them for a long time.

01:13:30.280 The Vedic literature in India is full of UFO-like things in the sky doing battle.

01:13:38.840 I mean, that's just all over the place in the Vedic writings.

01:13:44.860 Right, exactly.

01:13:45.840 Well, and this is one of the – yeah, like in the battle of the gods, they're using these superweapons, right, that can cause almost like nuclear devastation, right?

01:13:56.180 This – these ideas are not new.

01:13:58.240 And so one of the things is that the whole connection between high technology, spiritual evils, we can say demons or whatever, you know, and then aliens and the antediluvian civilization or some sort of civilization that's above time or beyond time that we draw the source of our wealth from.

01:14:26.240 These are tightly connected concepts, not just in our modern age, which they certainly are, but in history as well.

01:14:33.280 As we've demonstrated, there's always been a close association between, you know, high technology and between spiritual reality.

01:14:42.640 And so the reason we use the term, you know, real crack, you know, so real – I mean, it basically means like life energy.

01:14:48.460 You can think about it as chi or some other – some other, you know, ether, right, the etheric fluid, etheric substance.

01:14:57.540 It's – I've always thought of it as being a derivative of virility.

01:15:02.980 Yes, exactly.

01:15:04.600 Exactly.

01:15:05.580 You know, a life, right?

01:15:07.080 And so the term real craft refers to the – it refers to the craft that were produced by some of the sectors of National Socialist Germany's secret engineering departments, their special engineering departments in the later stages of World War II.

01:15:27.460 So most of us – most of our listeners will know that Germany was working on many sorts of different kind of niche technologies.

01:15:41.540 And so this is where we get, you know, rocket propulsion most famously.

01:15:45.580 And also this is where, you know, like jet engines, right?

01:15:49.620 The Germans invented the jet aircraft.

01:15:51.960 And so if those are – some of our listeners might be familiar with the Bell.

01:15:59.360 Well, just to say that everyone was working on these things at the time.

01:16:03.500 It's just that in many – most cases, not only did Germans get their first as far as practical applications, but got their first in combat deployments as well.

01:16:13.300 Exactly.

01:16:14.000 Exactly.

01:16:14.420 Exactly.

01:16:14.480 Yeah, and so the – there's a very, very famous record of, you know, one particular prototype German special aircraft, which was called, you know, the Iron Bell or something like this.

01:16:30.120 And essentially what it was is what we would describe it as a UFO.

01:16:33.000 It was a bell or a disc-shaped object that could move in three dimensions and that ran off of, you know, zero-point energy or a grill or whatever.

01:16:41.300 And it basically was a UFO in the sense that we understand it to be.

01:16:45.500 So a craft that is not limited by conventional physics.

01:16:51.380 And so the reason why I wanted to bring this up is because there's – we know that at the end of World War II, through Operation Paperclip on the American side, and it was a similar program on the Soviet side, all of the German scientists and engineers were appropriated to these various allied powers.

01:17:09.620 And all of the, you know, deep technical knowledge that they have was developed by both of the victorious arms of our enemies.

01:17:19.620 You know, and so obviously the most famous of these actors is Werner von Braun, who designed the Saturn V rocket, which carried the Apollo mission to the moon.

01:17:33.320 And basically he was the one who – NASA could not develop proper rockets.

01:17:39.900 And even when they had consultation by the Germans, they couldn't develop proper rockets.

01:17:45.940 Their programs kept failing.

01:17:47.600 And so they literally had to just take these same German scientists and, you know, and I think Werner von Braun was in the SS.

01:17:55.340 And so they had to basically literally put them in charge of their programs in order for them to go anywhere.

01:17:58.820 And so the –

01:18:02.820 The Army Rocketry Program began with a U.S. Army copy, one-to-one monkey copy of the V-2 or the A-2, depending on which nomenclature you prefer.

01:18:17.480 Right.

01:18:17.700 And so the –

01:18:23.700 I'm trying to figure out what the best way is to lay this out because what I wanted to discuss was the connection that's going on here between the technology and the spiritual reality and, you know, the state.

01:18:34.300 And what I wanted to substantiate was that the idea of orbs of light fighting in the sky is not new.

01:18:44.540 And our ancestors would have understood this to be a spiritual conflict.

01:18:48.520 You know, so when they see lights moving around in the heavens that engage in battle, like, they would just understand this to be, I mean, angels and demons, essentially.

01:18:56.620 Or spirits engaging in warfare.

01:18:59.680 And so the – going back to the connection between spiritually advanced entities and high technology, you know, these things have been around for a very long time.

01:19:16.140 And so the fact that we see this with the dramatic rise of technological sophistication in the West combined with the – these kind of occult and mysterious origins of the empirical system and of these, you know, these fascinating, incredible technologies.

01:19:37.840 You know, if we look at the history of – you know, if we look at the history of – the Manhattan Project is filled with all sorts of crazy stuff, right?

01:19:44.800 And so on.

01:19:45.880 And the – Iana Nervé and the accusations of occultism by certain members of the German state apparatus.

01:19:53.580 You know, we can see that these same spiritual realities come up once again.

01:19:59.880 So I don't think it should be surprising for anyone then that with the beginning in seriousness of the American and Soviet space programs as well as the serious beginnings of their atomic weaponry programs at the same time.

01:20:24.780 No one, I don't think, knowing everything that we've talked about thus far, should then be surprised that coincidence of coincidence, at the same time, we have a rash of unidentified flying objects being seen all over the world at the same time that we're doing these things.

01:20:44.260 Right, and I mean, it's not – you know, I mean, there's a certain level when you come down to just the raw existence of these things is about as hard of a fact as you can imagine.

01:20:55.920 I mean, there are reams and reams and reams of video, of eyewitness evidence, people who've seen all sorts of orbs like this.

01:21:03.960 It's, you know, it's not a question, right?

01:21:05.940 Right, and but the question that this phenomenon posits is what's going on here and why does there seem to be such a tight association between these orbs and what we might call the regime or the deep state, right?

01:21:21.600 And because we know, I mean, it's – we know that the U.S. Air Force was doing experiments in the 50s and 60s into disk-type warplanes, you know, that's public knowledge.

01:21:39.220 And we know that they totally appropriated all of the scientists who developed these same crafts for the Germans.

01:21:47.980 And we know that, like, the – you know, there's the famous story where it was like, you know, that day before 9-11, Rumsfeld came out and admitted that the Pentagon lost, like, a trillion dollars or something absurd, you know, 200 billion dollars, right?

01:22:01.240 And so the United States has an absolutely massive – the largest in the world by far – an absolutely massive secret military black budget portfolio.

01:22:13.540 And so the notion that, you know, they don't have these sort of – this sort of technology is, I think, absurd.

01:22:21.440 And so the question for me is what I see is that this is just a reflection of the higher spiritual reality.

01:22:26.420 Is that in a sense, this technology, you know, it seems to be closely associated with spiritual evil, with death and sin.

01:22:34.740 And wherever there's, you know, death and sin, which certainly are – the United States government is the greatest purveyor of in the history of the world.

01:22:43.500 You know, there's – there's humans.

01:22:48.980 So, if you don't mind, sir.

01:22:51.620 Please, please.

01:22:52.040 Just to lay out, we have two sort of cosmological stories at play here.

01:22:59.200 We can either believe that these UFOs are spacecraft come to our little world, insignificant mudball world orbiting an insignificant star in an insignificant corner of an insignificant galaxy completely at random.

01:23:17.280 And that these starships are traversing vast distances of space and time on mind-bogglingly huge energy budgets.

01:23:30.240 And they're coming here to do nothing in particular other than occasionally fight other strange craft in our skies for no seeming purpose whatsoever.

01:23:45.460 Right. Thank you.

01:23:46.840 And this is – basically, there seems to be kind of two systems of metaphysics that's used to explain the appearance of these phenomenon.

01:23:58.780 One is that these are, you know, extraterrestrial craft which come from advanced physical life forms that evolved separately from us on different planets that have, you know, traveled to our world to just be kind of do strange things.

01:24:14.600 You know, for some –

01:24:17.520 Mutilate cattle.

01:24:18.080 Right, mutilate cattle for some unknown nefarious reason.

01:24:22.240 And that they, you know, people will posit that they're – you know, this is like the guiding hand behind history or that they're here to extract, you know, negative energy from us.

01:24:30.080 There's all sorts of like – you know, they're here to mine gold, right?

01:24:33.940 I mean, there's all sorts of different, you know, kind of equally far out explanations as to why this is occurring.

01:24:41.620 And nobody has a coherent narrative.

01:24:44.000 And I think that what is kind of demonstrable is that this is not a new issue.

01:24:48.720 This reality has been going on for a long time and so that any attempt to solve or to provide some sort of narrative behind what's going on with these strange things has to, you know, cannot accept this, you know, totally fabricated Darwinian idea.

01:25:10.120 That's pushed by our enemies because this whole notion of these extraterrestrial, you know, invaders or visitors from space is, you know, at the forefront of pop culture, is the forefront of Hollywood.

01:25:21.120 You know, Ridley Scott just released a new film on this subject.

01:25:23.340 So here's the thing that if – as you delve into UFO culture and the thinking that goes behind these things, the best analysis is by people who don't actually believe that these are alien craft carrying physical entities across vast gulf space and time.

01:25:47.980 You know, and the motivations are always – the best motivations, the most convincing explanations are non-physical as well, that they're here to, as you say, harvest negative energy, to feed off of our pain and suffering.

01:26:05.100 Well, and that they travel through, you know, through extra-dimensional space bypassing the problems of physical space travel.

01:26:14.160 Well, that starts to sound very metaphysical, and that's not an accident because the other explanation, the other explanation actually fits the evidence much better.

01:26:28.160 And the other explanation is that our world, this world, this unique, central, beautiful jewel of blue and green and white spinning in the center of the universe is the most important place in all of creation, in all of space and time, because this is where the story of all of existence unfolds.

01:26:56.660 This is where the principle underlying all of creation takes on flesh and enters the world to repair the damage that our ancestors did to it.

01:27:11.880 And so, of course, this is the battleground for all of the spiritual forces on either side, on any side of whatever battles are taking place in the heavens.

01:27:23.060 Right. And so, this is what I wanted, one of the comparisons I wanted to draw is that, you know, for our ancestors, they understood that the world was like an icon, that the world in creation, there was the revelation of God.

01:27:37.220 Because Christ, the Logos is revelation. And so, the order of the universe is the revelation of God. It is the manifestation of divine law in the world around us.

01:27:47.860 And so, it points us directly to the structure of the heavens. And this is why, you know, the physical Jerusalem is a reflection of the heavenly Jerusalem and so on.

01:27:55.300 And so, the idea of the heavens being in the sky, right, or that the celestial sphere, right, you know, all of these terms are used interchangeably, celestial, heavenly, right, and so on, is a representation of, you know, a higher, subtler realm of reality, you know, would be an obvious one to our ancestors.

01:28:20.560 And so, when they see what looks like incorporeal forces doing battle in this plane, it would be natural enough for them to assume that this is the physical manifestation of a spiritual reality between spiritual entities.

01:28:34.660 And so, I would, and I would argue, like, likewise, it's this, you know, and but that's not going to say, you know, heaven is not a physical place floating in the sky, that's ridiculous.

01:28:43.480 But rather, the heavens themselves are the physical reflection of the higher heaven of heavens, the true, you know, peak of reality and creation.

01:28:55.820 And I would say, you know, likewise, the subterranean component of our earth represents the exact opposite.

01:29:05.560 It represents, you know, density.

01:29:08.320 It represents, you know, this kind of fiery, dark, you know, chthonic, saturnine, and, you know...

01:29:19.320 Dionysian, perhaps.

01:29:20.760 Dionysian, you know, it's Hades, right?

01:29:23.120 And so, likewise, when we hear about, you know, the United States government building, you know, massive underground bases beneath the earth, right?

01:29:33.900 And, you know, doing all sorts of, you know, immoral, unethical, you know, mad scientist experiments and all of these crazy things that you hear about if you start to poke into these circles.

01:29:43.480 Well, I mean, it shouldn't surprise us.

01:29:45.620 This is Hades, right?

01:29:48.380 And so, you know, they descend deeper, you know, into hell.

01:29:52.340 They descend deeper into the earth, symbolically.

01:29:54.220 Obviously, you know, hell is not at the physical center of the earth.

01:29:56.560 That's ridiculous, right?

01:29:57.940 But there is a close symbolic link between these things.

01:30:01.740 And this is really what I wanted to demonstrate.

01:30:03.820 And that we have a worldview that is able to account for these strange things that we run into in our lives.

01:30:12.140 That it doesn't have to, you don't have to have this existential, you know, angst or uncertainty about, you know, what exactly is going on with these issues.

01:30:26.320 You know, and so, I don't know how much deeper, like, I can go in at.

01:30:31.320 I just wanted to...

01:30:32.060 I just want to point out that there's a lot of evidence pointing to UFOs emerging from below the ground.

01:30:37.080 From the ground, from the ocean, right?

01:30:39.260 Exactly.

01:30:40.120 Exactly.

01:30:40.860 There's, you know, there's loads of evidence to suggest that precisely, yes, that they emerge from the ground and they emerge from the ocean.

01:30:47.140 Which are both symbolic of chaos.

01:30:49.620 Literally.

01:30:50.500 The waters of creation are the formless, chaotic void where, you know, sea monsters and so on reside.

01:30:59.120 Right?

01:30:59.560 And we, like, we, you know, we know less about, you know, saying this all the time, we know less about the, like, we have 2% of our oceans mapped or something like this.

01:31:10.660 You know?

01:31:11.260 Yeah, yeah.

01:31:11.880 I mean, I'm a huge nerd.

01:31:15.240 Like, I want to have, I want to have my space travel.

01:31:19.200 I want to have, I want to have my giant space battleships and crusading against the, against demon worlds and whatnot.

01:31:29.560 But, you know what?

01:31:31.100 Maybe we should seriously consider, you know, fully exploring the bottom of the, of the ocean in Antarctica before we, you know.

01:31:39.880 Exactly.

01:31:40.420 You could have, you know, pressurized, you know, combat suit marines in big, big, old timey, you know, brass diving suits.

01:31:51.020 It's, but yeah, no, exactly.

01:31:54.740 And so this is, I think, I think one of the things really that gets me whenever we talk about this is that the hubris of modern society says that our ancestors never asked themselves these same questions about these same issues that we're dealing with.

01:32:07.860 And that's, that's it, is that, you know, we're dealing with a totally unique set of problems that has never existed in the world before because man's constantly changing human nature has never before arrived at this particular random set of variables that produced this result.

01:32:24.160 And, you know, the traditional world would say that's bullshit.

01:32:28.420 Man's nature is kind of unchanging.

01:32:30.900 And so he produces fairly similar results over time.

01:32:34.800 Tragic results, but yeah.

01:32:36.380 Tragic results due to his corrupted nature.

01:32:38.640 And so that, you know, that's why we have a tradition is that it provides us with a worldview so that we can make sense of these same issues that our ancestors have dealt with over and over and over again.

01:32:48.280 And, you know, and, and that for me is, is what all of this stuff is, is that the, these many, most of the time we can't give you answers to these questions.

01:33:02.000 That's what these, you know, when you, when you see, you know, UFOs or you see, you know, hard evidence of, um, members of like the United States or like U.S. intelligence apparatus or deep state engaging in, you know, satanic pedophilic rights with a whole pizza gate thing.

01:33:18.280 These things are connected.

01:33:20.500 These things are tightly connected.

01:33:21.960 And, and, and this is one of the few times where we do have pretty solid answers for you.

01:33:27.580 Basically, TLDR fam, UFOs or demons?

01:33:32.560 Yeah, basically.

01:33:34.400 Um, and that's, this, this is the thing.

01:33:35.960 So, you know, if you, so what is a more likely, what is a more likely, uh, explanation or narrative to the whole extraterrestrial phenomenon, right?

01:33:47.200 That it's, you know, these, these, by purely biological materialist, you know, Darwinian, you know, predatory entities that just happen to show up and fuck around with us and do really, really evil things and are really spooky for no reason.

01:34:01.360 Or that these are the physical manifestation of spiritual evil.

01:34:04.900 As a serious science fiction enthusiast, I can tell you that if there really was a Darwinian biological entity coming here from the stars and with everything that implied, they wouldn't mess around with being spoopy.

01:34:22.300 Okay.

01:34:24.140 We, we would not fare any better in that situation than the Native Americans fared to European colonization or the, or the, um, the Indians fared to the, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the British company, you know, it wouldn't, it wouldn't even take concerted state action from a, some sort of star empire.

01:34:47.940 Right.

01:34:48.660 A, the, the, the energies involved in space travel are so massive that in order to conquer us, they could simply just drop rocks from orbit.

01:34:59.220 Right.

01:34:59.660 Yeah, exactly.

01:35:02.440 Exactly.

01:35:03.480 And so the, um, and this is why I did all of the explanation at the beginning of the show is because I think that there is a, a tight association between, you know, physical beings that people encounter in the spiritual reality.

01:35:16.600 Right.

01:35:17.080 And, you know, a lot of other people that do, Alistair Crowley, uh, thought this exact same thing.

01:35:23.020 Um, and in fact, Alistair Crowley's, you know, quote unquote guardian spirit, a, uh, demon by the name of, uh, Iwas that, you know, he summoned, um, you know, after some ritual butt sex and channeling in Cairo one night, you know, looks exactly like a gray alien.

01:35:38.880 And in fact, this is what Crowley would later go on to do with the OTO or a template Orientalis is they Orientalis, I always mess it up, but they would, um, very overtly.

01:35:50.780 They thought that these, you know, gray aliens, whatever, they thought that these were demonic entities or spiritual entities and that they would summon them.

01:35:58.080 Um, and you can go read this, like on the EOTO's website, you can go read the Gnostic mass.

01:36:02.300 Uh, it's not like a secret.

01:36:04.300 It's completely overt.

01:36:05.820 They would summon these entities as a method of spiritual advancement and try to commune and learn from them in order to increase their understanding of the secrets of the universe, basically.

01:36:15.860 And to improve, uh, basically give more power.

01:36:18.100 That was the spiritual method.

01:36:20.160 And in fact, it's interesting because H.R. Geiger, who did all of the art for Ridley Scott's, uh, alien franchise, was an overt, uh, Crowleyan and was a member of the OTO.

01:36:32.120 You know, and admitted that, you know, the, the aliens that he was drawing in his art, you know, these are, these are demons, demonic, spiritual entities.

01:36:38.900 I mean, and in a way, our culture has always been aware of this, at least subconsciously.

01:36:48.260 I mean, you know, I, I, I don't think it's controversial for me to say that the, um, the, the most right wing favorite fandom is like warmer 40 K.

01:37:00.700 Right.

01:37:01.020 And what is, what is space travel in warmer 40 K?

01:37:04.860 It is an encounter with the, with demonic spiritual entities.

01:37:10.240 Yeah, literally.

01:37:11.260 That's what it is.

01:37:11.980 Right.

01:37:13.480 Exactly.

01:37:13.960 And that's, it's, it's interesting that, that whole, um, narrative.

01:37:17.600 I mean, it kind of, it, yeah, it's just that the, you know, what is the space is just the room for the manifestation of spiritual forces.

01:37:25.200 And that, you know, literally man, uh, man's physical body changes corresponding to his virtue or vice respectively.

01:37:31.480 Absolutely.

01:37:33.640 And so it, the, um, and I don't, I don't want us very good about Warhammer.

01:37:38.240 That's not the purpose of the show.

01:37:39.880 We could, we could shitpost, but you know, I think, uh, the emperor protects.

01:37:45.640 Well, and so that's the thing is that, yeah.

01:37:48.300 So what, what's going on here?

01:37:49.580 But so if you, if you actually like accept like the straight, um, you know, Darwinian narrative, you basically, you're buying the Jewish narrative.

01:37:55.880 Like, just to put it that simply, because this, the narrative about what aliens are, what these are supposed to be, this totally pushed by Hollywood.

01:38:04.180 You know, they have a very overt agenda to make, make people think that, okay, you know, these UFOs, you know, have the little green men and Martians who evolved in a different planet and who have come here and who want to interact with us to kind of raise us up to the next evolutionary level.

01:38:17.140 Um, you know, and, and so on.

01:38:20.960 This is the new mythology that they put into people's minds.

01:38:25.200 I mean, and, and not particularly new.

01:38:27.160 They've been at this for a long time.

01:38:28.920 I mean, HG Wells, who, who gives us the war of the worlds and the Martians and the tripods.

01:38:34.700 He was a firm believer in a new world order and, and, and, and, and a world government and, and, and, and transcending quote unquote primitive superstitions like religion and race and culture.

01:38:47.440 Oh, he was a hard-told racist.

01:38:49.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:38:50.600 Like, that's what the time machine is about.

01:38:52.400 You know, as he goes into the future and the dialectic has produced, you know, these two different species of mankind.

01:38:57.820 Right?

01:38:58.560 And no, this is exactly it.

01:39:00.420 And so this is not, um, many of these elites overtly believe this and see a very strong connection, a spiritual connection between all of these different, um, all of these different things.

01:39:16.140 And so I guess that's, that's really what I wanted to talk about is that these are, um, you know, with Mysterium, we're, I mean, we talk, talk about politics and religion, but what we really want to talk about is truth.

01:39:28.500 And we, we try to give people the intellectual matter to form a serious worldview that can allow them to tackle all of the absurd and crazy things that are in this world that we live in.

01:39:40.600 And so the whole purpose of this episode was to demonstrate that these, you know, kind of more tinfoil hat or spoopy, you know, shitposty type things are not separate.

01:39:50.400 They're part of the world that we live in and they have a direct connection, uh, contemporarily and historically to the exact sort of things that we talk about all the time.

01:39:58.500 And so that if you're, you know, we're national socialists, we have to be open to the truth.

01:40:02.580 And that's what the worldview is found and is predicated on response to truth and natural law.

01:40:08.600 And so that we can't exclude any, uh, any area of the world from our study because that's, you know, perceived to be gauche or it's not useful for the narrative.

01:40:18.640 Right? Then this is the thing that gets me the most, you know, is that the, oh, well, we shouldn't, we shouldn't talk about these things.

01:40:23.460 You shouldn't think about them because it's not useful politically.

01:40:25.740 It's not expedient. It's just absurd.

01:40:30.340 You know, we, we, we've, we've completely destroyed utilitarianism on Mysterium Fascists before.

01:40:35.600 I mean, if you go and look, listen to our morality episode, you know, obviously I'm not saying that like, you know, UFOs are the center of ideology.

01:40:41.700 Ridiculous. Obviously. Obviously Christ is the center of what we're about.

01:40:45.140 But this, this idea that these things cannot be discussed because it's, you know, it's just a form of respectability cucking, I think, frankly.

01:40:55.520 And so these guys, this is the thing that gets me.

01:40:57.040 Low respectability.

01:40:57.900 Yeah. You're going to deny the Holocaust, but you're not willing to talk about UFOs.

01:41:01.700 Or angels and demons for that matter. I mean, you know, like there's, there's quite a few people who will counter signal us for taking our religion, our faith, our revelation seriously, because, oh, that's just, that's not a myth.

01:41:17.100 Yeah. Yeah. It's LARPing. Yeah. We're just, you know, it's just a big, big RPG game, you know, that, that, and that like, and it's just, it's like, well, yeah, no, you don't, you know, people who say these kinds of things, they don't, they don't take the world seriously.

01:41:30.000 You know, like if you believe, if you believe in what Christ says, like if you've actually believe him, you know, then nothing else matters.

01:41:37.960 And, you know, Christ says that, you know, behold, I have not come to abolish the law and the prophets, but to fulfill them.

01:41:43.720 And, you know, the law and the prophets, they, they testify to the kind of, um, corner pieces of the puzzle that we're, we're discussing here.

01:41:57.680 Yeah. I mean, uh, look guys, like we are who we are and we live in the times that we live in.

01:42:05.660 And if, if, if we're going to, to proudly claim to be national socialists, you know, and admittedly very bad ones, you know, I, you know, I, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a very poor Christian and, and, and, and, and it, and a very poor national socialist, but I, I'm trying, but no one's going to take us any more or less seriously.

01:42:32.100 If we talk about these subjects, guys, we're already, I mean, that's the thing, right?

01:42:38.360 Exactly. Yeah. And so there's just, uh, but they, people will take us seriously if they're interested in the truth.

01:42:44.500 And that's the thing is that if he's, you know, you, if people are open, I mean, you can sit down and you can have a discussion with them about this, but that's the problem is that, um, what the Jews have done, you know, what our, not, not just the Jews, but our enemies, right?

01:43:01.280 Uh, the synagogue of Satan, so to speak, has done is they've constructed an alternative religion, capital R to alternative myth, uh, a frame of reality that most of the guys who are on the alt right or on the far right, you know, are trapped in that they've come into these politics from the system of modernity.

01:43:19.980 And what we're trying to demonstrate is that, well, actually, you know, the, our, our non-modern systems of thinking have answers for these questions.

01:43:29.060 And then if you accept the modern narrative as to what's going on here, you're basically being, allowing yourself to be brainwashed.

01:43:37.400 If, if you view politics as a choice between Thomas Locke and, uh, or John Locke and Thomas Hobbes.

01:43:44.020 Oh my goodness.

01:43:45.160 Then you have already ceded all of, all of the metaphysical and metapolitical ground to, to modernity and liberalism.

01:43:55.420 Like you're, you're, you're done.

01:43:56.600 Like, and, and, and, and I don't, I don't, I don't, I'm not trying to blame anyone who, who, who, who has this view.

01:44:03.460 I was there.

01:44:04.660 I was there.

01:44:05.340 I thought that, you know, if my choices are Locke and Hobbes, then I have to choose Hobbes because at least it's not chaotic, but it's founded upon the same nominalist, just so story of the quote unquote state of nature, which has never been observed anywhere.

01:44:22.640 Right.

01:44:23.120 You know, this, this, this, this, this, this social contract pablum of these, these autonomous individuals contracting with each other as the base of society.

01:44:33.980 When have we seen that ever?

01:44:36.840 No, people are part of, of corporate holes.

01:44:41.440 You know, the, the, the, the, the society, the group, the family proceeds the individual.

01:44:47.160 The individual proceeds from the, the, the, the, the one proceeds from the many.

01:44:53.300 You know, we, we are born to parents.

01:44:55.960 We don't emerge from the ground like blades of grass.

01:44:59.260 Exactly.

01:44:59.640 We don't jump out of our father's heads closed in armor as Athena does.

01:45:03.100 You know, and that's the thing is that exactly, and, and you can't, you have to discuss these fundamental issues, you know, these presuppositions of the worldview before you can begin to discuss these downstream topics.

01:45:19.080 And this is why on Mysterium, like, where we talk about, like, epistemology and philosophy and theology all the time, every episode, basically, and we try to relate everything that we talk about back to those high ideas and also back to the practical reality of life.

01:45:34.140 Because they meet, like, the, the alpha and omega are connected.

01:45:37.500 They meet at the ends.

01:45:39.460 Like, if you think about a wormhole, right, in a, in a sense, what a wormhole does is it connects the highest and the lowest point of reality, right?

01:45:49.060 And in a, for, for us, that's Christ.

01:45:51.800 Christ is the alpha and omega.

01:45:53.780 He connects the highest and the lowest of ideas.

01:45:57.060 Everything that it means to be human, all of our experiences have been taken on to God in Christ.

01:46:02.700 And so everything that we, we run into in our lives, you know, has a place in that worldview.

01:46:08.800 That's what, you know, the Council of Chalceda means.

01:46:12.280 And so nothing, you know, the, the, the, the fact that, like, this is what, to be a Christian means to bring Christ into every area of your life.

01:46:22.240 This is not something that we put on when we enter church and we take off as we leave.

01:46:27.540 And if that's the way that you view religion, then I'm sorry, fam, but you're, you're, you're doing it wrong.

01:46:34.220 And, and you have a very modern, deformed, degenerate view of what it means to have a faith, to have a worldview.

01:46:43.760 Like, you know, every, you know, as I've said before, I am not, uh, I, I, I am not right.

01:46:54.460 I am not a Christian because I'm right wing.

01:46:56.980 Like I'm not adopting a faith because it's useful to my politics.

01:47:01.900 Right.

01:47:02.520 I adopt my politics because I have no other choice because I believe in my faith.

01:47:07.020 I am a right winger because I'm a Christian and I can do no other.

01:47:11.700 Yeah, exactly.

01:47:13.420 Exactly.

01:47:14.260 And this, this, I mean, this is an important point.

01:47:17.180 It's just this idea that like, it's such a modern idea that your religion is something that you keep in a box and that you bring out on Sunday.

01:47:24.520 And you really, you know, that's nice that if it works for you, but you know, and it's necessary to sustain society because there's utility, but we don't, we don't deal with the icky implications of, you know, religion transforming our whole lives.

01:47:37.020 Right.

01:47:38.240 You know, cause that means that we have to radically shift the way we think and believe and live.

01:47:44.480 That means we're responsible for our decisions and our everyday non Sunday lives.

01:47:49.860 And that means that someone is going to hold us accountable for that time that we ripped that guy off or we, you know, we lied or we cheated or we stole, you know, or we did what, you know, anything else, you know, like, uh, our entire system is based upon.

01:48:07.020 And lying and stealing and cheating from each other all the time.

01:48:11.020 And yeah, that's a problem.

01:48:13.140 That's going to have to change.

01:48:15.860 Yeah, exactly.

01:48:18.060 Exactly.

01:48:19.360 All right, doc.

01:48:20.120 I mean, we, you know, we've still got other topics to discuss.

01:48:23.380 We could also do Caliuga news.

01:48:25.860 We're about at that point of the broadcast.

01:48:27.980 So what do you think you want to hit one more?

01:48:29.340 Uh, uh, yeah.

01:48:34.420 Uh, is there, is there anything that you particularly wanted to talk about today?

01:48:39.460 Um, I think that we should save some of these selected topics for a different time.

01:48:47.560 Maybe talk a little bit about kind of cryptids and fey and that kind of, that kind of stuff.

01:48:52.100 Oh, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:48:54.760 Because, um, I know that we, uh, privately have gone a little bit back and forth on this,

01:48:59.500 but, um, uh, I think I, uh, I would, I would, I would love to have an opportunity to kind of

01:49:05.240 expand on my thoughts on that.

01:49:06.540 Right.

01:49:06.860 So, I mean, what I would just open up with is, um, for anybody who is, so, so what, you know,

01:49:13.720 a cryptid or a crypto terrestrial is the idea, refers to this idea that there are forms of life

01:49:20.340 on this planet, some intelligent and some that are not, that are, um, occulted or hidden from,

01:49:26.260 um, regular human purview.

01:49:29.780 And so that these creatures exist in the fringes of the physical world and in a semi-spiritual way

01:49:37.340 that allows them to, um, they're more, they're subtler, more ethereal, uh, more mysterious and

01:49:45.220 cryptic really, which is where they get their name from.

01:49:47.180 And so this term cryptid is applied to all sorts of things, you know, like Loch Ness Monster

01:49:51.540 and Bigfoot, uh, you know, to every, you know, to giants and centaurs and everything like this.

01:49:57.840 And so, but the, the idea of, in the, these cryptids is not like, um, some sort of tinfoil

01:50:04.480 hat speculation.

01:50:04.980 This is the church fathers believed in this.

01:50:08.000 Now, one of the best examples I can think of is if you read St. Jerome's Life of Paul of Thebes,

01:50:13.960 he recounts how St. Anthony the Great, the founder of monasticism, um, was, you know, praying one day

01:50:21.640 and he came to the conclusion that he was the holiest monk in all of the desert and God,

01:50:26.040 you know, laughing at him said, no, there's one holier than you. And he led him through the

01:50:32.700 desert to find Paul of Thebes. Now on his way to find Paul of Thebes, um, you know, St. Anthony

01:50:39.220 runs into a centaur. Literally, he runs into a centaur, right? You know, makes the sign of the

01:50:46.040 cross, right? And the centaur leads him through the desert. And then he runs into a satyr, uh,

01:50:52.880 you know, what we might call, um, what's another name for a satyr?

01:50:56.380 A fawn.

01:50:57.140 A fawn or a goat man, right? With long, you know, long horns and cloven who's, who, who,

01:51:02.400 you know, uh, says that he's a Christian, right? Who says he's a Christian, right? This, this

01:51:07.500 satyr says to St. Anthony that, oh yes, I'm a Christian. I believe in Christ as well. And

01:51:11.780 we've heard of this thing that goes throughout all the land. And he says that he's there to

01:51:16.060 represent his people who are intelligent and creatures of God as well, and who live in the

01:51:22.080 wilder places of the desert. And Jerome even says that these, uh, real entities that, um,

01:51:28.040 St. Anthony runs into, you know, we're given the name hippocentaur and, uh, satyr and so

01:51:32.500 on by the Greeks. And in fact, the satyr rebukes, he, he curses Alexandria for worshiping, uh, these,

01:51:42.380 these entities as gods when they're just creations of the logos. And so it's like, this is, if

01:51:49.760 you can go read this in life, it was probably on the internet, life of Paul of Thieves by

01:51:53.120 Jerome, St. Jerome, who translated the Bible into, into Latin. And so the church fathers

01:51:58.320 believed in cryptids, like they believed in all of these different, St. Jerome also

01:52:02.420 believed in, in fae and fairies as we might call them. And it seems that, you know, that,

01:52:06.360 that word has become so, uh, you know, so saccharine and, and, you know, you know, it kind of evokes

01:52:13.040 Disney princess type, uh, type, uh, talking about Tinkerbell here. Exactly. Exactly. And so the,

01:52:20.360 these, you know, this is not a new, new idea. This wasn't invented by some tinfoil hat hippies in the

01:52:25.840 sixties. Uh, these are realities that have been around forever and that our ancestors have been

01:52:32.000 have interacted with and wrote about and talked about and incorporated into their worldview.

01:52:37.560 Um, you know, and so I think that the, the understanding is that these, these cryptid

01:52:42.640 beings, these crypto terrestrials are semi-spiritual, right? And, and similar to what we understand

01:52:49.120 to be as aliens. Now, doc, I want you to go, cause I know that you've got a, you've got depth

01:52:52.260 here that I don't have. Okay. Well, so if we look at, um, at fairy lore, at, uh,

01:53:02.000 fairy tales, um, at, at, at, at what is essentially our folk tradition, right? Are, are, are, are in a

01:53:11.140 very real sense, fairy tales are the, are, are, are the authentic low church, the, the, the, the lay

01:53:19.420 understanding of the, of, of, of cosmic reality around them. Um, and, and, and proper fairy tales

01:53:28.340 are, are, are all very Christ centric, right? So get that out of the way. There's no contradiction

01:53:32.900 there. Um, it's not like they're secretly witches or something. Um, but so in, in this

01:53:41.600 lore, and you see this even in, from pre surviving pre Christian lore as well, and all around the

01:53:48.080 world, not just Europe, but particularly European. Um, we just seem to have a connection

01:53:53.300 with the faith folk, uh, we Europeans. Um, you see that there are, there are two courts

01:54:02.320 as they are called. There's, uh, usually referred to as a summer and a winter court. Uh, but,

01:54:10.400 um, in, in, in my view that, uh, perhaps a more descriptive term for modern years would be,

01:54:20.540 there's a lawful court and a rebellious court or a chaotic court, right? And essentially

01:54:26.640 what that means to me is that there, there, there are just like the angels had to choose

01:54:34.380 sides. So did all of the other lesser subtle beings in, in all of creation had to choose

01:54:41.820 sides as well. Right. And so there, there are essentially to use the vulgar terminology,

01:54:47.800 there's, there's good fae and there's bad fae, right? Sometimes fae are, you know, are,

01:54:54.600 are, are chasing people down and slaughtering them in a wild hunt. And sometimes they're

01:55:02.020 helping the lost traveler. Um, but even the quote unquote good fae, right now they're not

01:55:09.680 humans. Okay. They're not like you and me, right? They're not, and they're not part

01:55:15.880 of our society. They're not part of our culture. They are essentially alien. And even if they

01:55:22.000 recognize the cosmic order, they still have powers and abilities that we don't understand

01:55:27.420 and they operate by cultural rules that we don't understand. Right. And so it's very easy

01:55:33.100 to fall afoul of their sense of law and order because it's not ours. And, and so these beings

01:55:39.080 have always held a certain terror, even when they are the, um, even when they're the lawful

01:55:45.200 ones. Uh, I, one, one, one way I've described it is a, a tiger by nature is good. Right.

01:55:54.740 But you, you wouldn't leave your child with a tiger. That's just not what you're going to

01:55:59.280 do. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And so, I mean, we, uh, if you, you know, if you listen to the

01:56:06.180 paranormal, uh, they go into lots of the kind of different, um, manifestations of, well, basically

01:56:15.880 the same stuff that's always been going on, right? Children go missing, you know, people,

01:56:21.940 you know, travelers go missing in the woods, uh, uh, odd deformities, right? Hybridization,

01:56:31.360 uh, all of these different things, you know, these are not like, again, in the book of Enoch

01:56:35.900 talks about, you know, um, animal spiritual hybridization. In Genesis, this is what the

01:56:43.000 Nephilim is about. It's about the, this hybridization between, you know, women and fallen angels.

01:56:48.120 So the idea that these sort of things, you know, occur, that there are, um, uh, malicious

01:56:55.000 and malignant spiritual entities that, you know, uh, uh, interact with and, um, generally

01:57:04.180 cause evil among human beings is, uh, not a far out idea whatsoever. So, anyway, doc, if

01:57:13.100 we want to hit Cali Ugaris, we're probably going to have to do it now. So, sound good to

01:57:16.660 you. Yeah, let's do that. All right. So, um, it's time for Cali Yuga News. Cali Yuga News.

01:57:29.780 Thank you. So, our first story is, uh, is from, is from pinknews.co.uk, which is a fag news

01:57:37.960 outlet. And it says, Moldova LGBT March halted as president says, I am not president of the

01:57:44.940 gays. God bless Moldova. God bless you, sir. Of course, he's an Orthodox Christian. Uh,

01:57:52.040 the anti-LGBT protest was led by Orthodox priests. Uh, may God preserve them.

01:57:58.180 After just a few hundred meters, the LGBT March, which was taking place in the capital city

01:58:02.460 of Cisneau, was stopped to avoid confrontation with Orthodox groups. At the same time, Moldova's

01:58:08.660 president, Igor Dodon, was quoted as telling journalists, I have never promised to be the

01:58:13.280 president of the gays. They should have elected their own president. The LGBT March, under the

01:58:20.240 slogan, without fear, was organized by Moldova's LGBT community to draw attention to the lack of

01:58:25.960 LGBT rights in the country. Uh, and last year, Moldova considered implementing a Russian-style

01:58:32.020 ban on gay propaganda. Uh, and so on and so on. I mean, I added this because I thought it was funny.

01:58:38.080 There was a, the counter-protest was led by Orthodox priests carrying homophobic banners saying,

01:58:43.240 gay parade all the way to hell.

01:58:47.340 Yeah, well, it's God bless these guys. Uh, I think this is what, the same thing happened in, uh,

01:58:53.900 the Ukraine. As soon as the Ukraine joined, uh, broke away from Russia and joined the EU sphere of

01:58:59.400 influence, you know, they started getting gay pride parades in the country. And so this is, uh, you know,

01:59:05.300 of course, be no surprise that all of these faggots are funded by, you know, the usual players,

01:59:11.560 society, uh, what is it, uh, George Soros' Open Society Foundation, and so on. These, uh, you know,

01:59:20.160 the same characters. And so, I mean, uh, I think the, the, it's good to see that the Moldovans,

01:59:27.140 especially good Orthodox people are, uh, one second here, are, uh, you know, standing,

01:59:36.940 are standing up to the overt forces of, uh, cultural subversion. Um, you know, I mean,

01:59:43.220 well, it remains to, to see what happened because here's basically the thing, you know, these, uh,

01:59:48.080 our enemies are coming for blood, right? They want your soul. So you're either going to submit to their

01:59:52.680 culture programs or they're going to kill you. So that's basically where that's going to escalate

01:59:58.540 to. What do you think, Doc? Uh, uh, I apologize. I did have to step away for a moment, but, uh,

02:00:05.980 uh, just God bless Moldova. Uh, God bless the Orthodox Church. Uh, just, we, we, we, you know,

02:00:14.300 if we, if we lose the public space, then they'll be coming for us in our homes next. I mean,

02:00:18.800 that's just the long and short of it. Yeah, exactly. Um, and that's, that's why, I mean,

02:00:24.700 you know, so here, I mean, street activism is important, uh, for two reasons. One, I mean,

02:00:29.820 for propaganda, right? Cause if you do street demonstrations, people will report on you.

02:00:34.120 Uh, but number two, um, because you can, you, you know, you need to be able to physically, uh,

02:00:39.420 maintain control of, uh, the comments, the public areas. And that's the thing is if you look at,

02:00:47.500 um, like, you know, uh, Weimar Germany, that was basically the whole, I mean, when things were

02:00:52.920 getting really, really spicy, the street fighting was, that was almost all that politics was.

02:01:00.420 So anyway, Doc, would you like to select the next article?

02:01:06.320 Okay. Yeah. Uh, let me see here. Uh, I'm going to take,

02:01:10.240 um, this article about, um, uh, war in the Philippines. Uh, why don't you, uh, why don't

02:01:20.820 you report on both of the Philippine articles there? Okay. Yeah. That sounds like a plan.

02:01:25.580 Okay. So let me see. This is, um, uh, Russia today. And the headline is, uh, is it, is it

02:01:35.300 Duarte? Is that the pronunciation? Duterte. Duterte. Duterte deploys commandos, attack

02:01:41.460 helicopters to retake Marawi? Yeah, Marawi, I believe. Uh, Marawi from ISIS-linked fighters.

02:01:50.940 Philippines Special Forces launched an attack on Islamist militant positions in Marawi

02:01:57.140 City early Tuesday, Thursday morning in a bid to retake the city from ISIS-affiliated, uh,

02:02:03.980 Maute group. The operation involved ground troops supported by attack helicopters.

02:02:10.240 Right. And so, I mean, if, for those of you who have not been following the, you know, this

02:02:13.840 is the, the situation in the Philippines is escalating rather sharply. Uh, now why, why

02:02:22.060 could this be, why would there be some sort of, uh, anti-government, you know, ISIS-linked

02:02:28.480 insurgency that, you know, in the Philippines, you know, that had caused Duterte to cut short

02:02:35.580 his visit to Russia to buy weapons to go back home? Maybe the other article can shed some light

02:02:40.800 on that. Uh, what's the other article say, Doc? Okay. Yournewswire.com. News truth unfiltered.

02:02:48.640 President Duterte kicks Rothschilds out of Philippines. Oh, snap fam. This starts to make the other

02:03:00.440 article make a lot more sense. Why all of a sudden was the, this insurgency is not a new

02:03:06.540 thing, people. Okay. There has been, uh, an Islamic insurgency boiling in the south, southern

02:03:16.200 islands of the Philippine island chain for ever, basically. 300 years since the Spanish

02:03:22.460 showed up. Yeah. Uh, but all of a sudden they have enough funding and, and, and, and manpower

02:03:29.860 to launch an attack that, that takes over an entire city where they're dragging people out

02:03:35.560 of their homes. Um, is it, I've, I've, I've heard this, that they're dragging Pollocks out

02:03:43.280 of, uh, users of, of Poll out of their homes targeting them. Yeah. I, it, it came across

02:03:51.160 in my, in my Twitter newsfeed that, uh, there's threads on Poll of, um, of Pollocks discussing,

02:03:57.220 uh, how they will resist when, when, when people come for them and, and like, they, you know,

02:04:02.120 like, uh, basically they don't have a whole lot that they're like, I wish I had a gun.

02:04:07.720 So you're like, so users of Poll are being targeted by Islamic militants in the Philippines.

02:04:12.680 I, I, you know, that's, that's word on the street, as it were. Okay. Word on the net.

02:04:18.040 That would, it'd be very, very interesting if that were true, um, because, you know, how

02:04:22.940 would they obtain that information?

02:04:26.300 Well, I mean, as we know, everything that's on the internet is, is subject to the eye of Sauron.

02:04:31.640 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, so this is, uh, you know, may God aid Duterte in his struggle

02:04:38.160 against the forces of the synagogue of Satan, I think is our conclusion here on, uh, you know,

02:04:42.620 Mysterium. I mean, he's, uh, quite rightly, uh, threatened to kill them all. And I think that he

02:04:46.760 ought to, um, President Duterte has vowed to quote eradicate all traces of Rothschild financial

02:04:54.300 criminality, end quote. That's a, that's a quote from the Philippines announcing that he will no

02:04:59.400 longer respond to pressure or financial blackmail from the U.S. government or Rothschild controlled

02:05:04.660 global banking institutions. All right. Any, any lingering doubts that anyone had out there?

02:05:11.500 No, this is slash our guy. Okay. Yeah, exactly. He's literally throwing people off of helicopters

02:05:18.620 and rebuking, uh, the international banking cartel. So, I mean, here's the question, right?

02:05:24.320 Right. So this basically is a very, very, very difficult situation for the United States

02:05:30.040 because the Philippines has been their, um, geopolitical puppet for a long time. And they've

02:05:36.120 counted on them to be, uh, after they won them a hundred years ago from the Spanish and

02:05:40.120 the American Spanish war, um, they had counted on the Philippines to kind of be a base of operations

02:05:47.280 in, uh, in Asia. And so like for the Philippines to go into the sphere of influence of China

02:05:55.920 and Russia is, you know, just about the worst thing that could happen to the United States

02:06:01.060 because it would, you know, it would mean that only, uh, South Korea and Japan are reliable allies

02:06:06.860 in the region. And especially because of the disputes over the South China Sea.

02:06:11.060 And so the question is, you know, we know, uh, we know how these, how in the past, these

02:06:18.340 sort of, uh, these sort of situations play out and, you know, it usually ends with, um,

02:06:27.480 you know, U.S. Marines invading the country.

02:06:31.960 Yeah. Like that's, I, that, that just gives me hives. Like, haven't we done enough to destroy

02:06:40.820 the Philippines? You know, I, I, I, I, I, I hope that, um, that, uh, that events play

02:06:52.540 out that, um, prevent further, uh, further U.S. intervention because, um, I mean, obviously

02:07:03.000 he means what he says and he's willing to risk his life. I mean, he told his people to,

02:07:07.100 to kill him if he failed to deliver on his promises in the first six months of his presidency.

02:07:11.760 If only we had a president who was so honest with us.

02:07:14.820 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Well, and he said, you know, quite specifically in the situation that,

02:07:19.780 you know, this was his total responsibility. If he couldn't manage to, uh, bring the situation

02:07:24.560 back under control, he would, you know, totally step down, uh, from the presidency. Right.

02:07:30.800 And so, I mean, you know, here's the, you know, Duterte is, uh, quite a vulgar man. He's quite

02:07:37.080 a vulgar and based, uh, a base man based, quite a vulgar and based man. But he is, he's, as

02:07:42.200 it seems, you know, our guy and he's based. And, you know, of course we, we wish him all

02:07:46.000 the best of luck, um, destroying these, um, servants of the adversary. Uh, you know, and

02:07:51.980 totally he's doing exactly what's necessary. And, you know, these people are, uh, bandits.

02:07:56.980 These guys are criminal, uh, uh, criminal aliens. You know, they're, they were saying

02:08:01.840 that the situation in the Philippines has gone beyond just a regional insurrection and

02:08:05.420 it's become an international conflict because of all of the jihadist fighters that are, and

02:08:09.860 mercenaries that have arrived from Indonesia and the other, um, Muslim oil sultanates of,

02:08:14.840 uh, Oceania. You know, and so, and we know, you know, if, if anybody here is woke, you guys

02:08:21.760 know that these terror groups are totally plugged into Western intelligence, right? And

02:08:28.100 so, you know, it looks like they're getting ready to destabilize the Philippines. All

02:08:33.580 right. How convenient. Suddenly peacekeepers are necessary. Exactly. And, you know, as a

02:08:38.940 destabilization of the Philippines is the last thing that, that I think anybody, you know,

02:08:44.100 is interested in, uh, in Asia. I mean, even, you know, unless you're the United States and

02:08:48.420 you want to do regime change. Right.

02:08:51.760 You know, and so this is a, and this is what I think kind of exposes the, just, just, if

02:08:56.920 there's anything that can, you know, more, uh, barely expose the fact that the president

02:09:02.040 is not like a real institution with real power, it's this, it's the fact that, you know, if

02:09:07.760 you, even if you believe Donald Trump is like totally legitimate and he's being, you know,

02:09:11.260 held hostage by agents of the deep state, which is likely is what I think is going on. Um,

02:09:15.240 but that he, you know, he, uh, you kind of take the daily stormer, Andrew Anglin philosophy

02:09:21.140 behind what's going on. Well, you know, we know Trump is, does praise Duterte openly for

02:09:26.100 his, his efforts and seems to be quite friendly with him, but that has not stopped other elements

02:09:30.680 of, um, you know, the synagogue from acting against, uh, acting against him.

02:09:36.780 Yeah. You know, uh, first of all, as we have seen, as we have had amply demonstrated before

02:09:46.980 our very eyes in, um, in, in, in, in, in just now in recent, quite recent memory, one does

02:09:55.440 not capture the presidency. The presidency captures you. Okay. So that's the first thing. Second,

02:10:01.620 second thing is, you know, the, this whole idea that the president is the quote unquote

02:10:09.000 leader of the free world is obviously an untrue proposition. You know, like obviously what

02:10:18.880 matters is Rothschild and his agents. That's who runs the world. That's the leader of the

02:10:25.600 quote unquote free world, which as we all know, as Orwell tells us really means the, the enslaved

02:10:34.300 world. Yeah. And that's basically what it comes back to is that, uh, you know, it's enslavement

02:10:40.860 to the money power, you know, and this is what, uh, that is the, the, uh, you know, usury is

02:10:49.440 the, uh, is the magic, so to speak that supports, uh, our adversaries. And, you know, if you rebuke

02:10:57.460 that system, this is what they will do to you, you know? And so, uh, I'm sure there are plenty,

02:11:03.560 plenty of sultans, plenty of sultans who would like to see the Philippines destabilized.

02:11:09.860 Who have unsavory characters in their prisons that they could just give arms to and say, go

02:11:14.440 over there and cause trouble. Exactly. Exactly. All right, doc. It looks like we've come to the

02:11:20.320 end of our, our time here for today. I thought that that was, uh, quite a good, quite a good

02:11:25.220 episode. So to all of our listeners, thank you for joining us. I'm your host, Florian

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Mysterium Fasces Episode 29 — Esoteric Shitposting

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