Mysterium Fasces

00:00:00.000 Amen.

00:00:30.000 Amen.

00:01:00.000 Welcome to Mysterium Fashes, episode 35, Charlottesville.

00:01:24.720 I'm your host, Florian Geyer, and I'm very pleased to be joining you once again for

00:01:30.140 another episode.

00:01:31.440 Today, with me on the panel, I've got three men who were there at the event itself.

00:01:36.420 Joining me, I've got returning guest, Zyger, of Iron March and Daily Story.

00:01:41.240 Thank you for coming back on once again, Zyger.

00:01:44.720 It's been a long time.

00:01:46.860 It has been a long time, but your contributions are always highly appreciated, both by myself

00:01:52.200 and by the listeners.

00:01:54.720 Once again, we have rejoining us on the program, Matt Parrott.

00:01:58.140 You're the chief information officer, I believe, of the Trad Youth Network.

00:02:02.780 Trad worker now.

00:02:04.460 Trad Youth has pretty much been retired, BS, a traditionalist worker party.

00:02:08.340 All right.

00:02:08.920 Honored to be here again.

00:02:11.320 Well, it's always an honor to have you on.

00:02:13.560 Of course, you've got the standing invitation.

00:02:16.100 And joining us for the first time in the program, we have Eric Stryker of Daily Stormer.

00:02:19.920 Stryker, I'm a big fan of your work, and it's a pleasure to have you on the podcast for the

00:02:23.560 first time.

00:02:25.220 The pleasure is mine, sir.

00:02:27.480 Excellent.

00:02:28.540 So before we get into our actual discussion and analysis of Charlottesville, there's a

00:02:33.180 few housekeeping items I wanted to get into the way.

00:02:36.580 With the increasing censorship of far-right media platforms, it will become likely in the

00:02:43.560 future more and more difficult to access this podcast.

00:02:46.140 I haven't been taken down off of SoundCloud, but my main source of distribution, which

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00:03:10.380 So you need not worry about censorship driving me away from this project.

00:03:15.640 By the way, you probably need to start looking into that now, because SoundCloud is going

00:03:21.160 bankrupt.

00:03:22.100 They're a German company, and they're going to be gone soon.

00:03:25.120 Indeed.

00:03:25.500 That's what I've heard.

00:03:27.340 But yes, I've got a plan.

00:03:30.120 So the second piece of info to put out is, I want to increase the level of spiritual warfare

00:03:38.180 that Mysterium Fashies organizes.

00:03:40.520 So I'm going to put it in an exhortation to our listeners.

00:03:43.440 In the description of this podcast, I'm going to include the Orthodox prayer.

00:03:46.980 It's the rite chanted in time of attack by aliens.

00:03:49.820 And that's not little green men.

00:03:51.800 That's foreign alien invaders. 1.00

00:03:54.060 And so I would highly encourage all of our listeners who are Orthodox or Christian to pray

00:03:59.780 this right more than once.

00:04:03.360 And hopefully we can organize further activities of this type, because there are things that

00:04:10.200 you can do, things that you can do to help the cause spiritually, even if all other means

00:04:14.080 are lost to you.

00:04:15.840 So with that out of the way, let's get into the discussion proper.

00:04:19.900 So gentlemen, you were all at the event, and most of you were organizers.

00:04:26.040 So before we even move into the circumstances of the event itself and the fallout, let's

00:04:32.920 tell our listeners, what was the Charlottesville rally?

00:04:36.620 What was its purpose?

00:04:38.200 What did it hope to achieve?

00:04:39.460 I suppose I can offer my perspective.

00:04:47.020 It was a unite the right rally in defense of the Robert E. Lee statue was the original

00:04:53.600 idea.

00:04:54.840 And as we got closer and closer to the date, the actual nature of the rally sort of evolved.

00:05:01.040 Like it was originally supposed to include based stick man and all these alt-like and sort

00:05:08.080 of MAGA characters in a broader unity of the right thing.

00:05:15.220 But of course, as the pressure intensified, with some noble exceptions, I don't wish to

00:05:21.080 erase from the record.

00:05:21.980 But as it got closer and closer to the date, only actual white nationalists, it ended up

00:05:29.940 showing it ended up being kind of de facto a white nationalist event.

00:05:35.760 It was still, you know, for the Robert E. Lee statue, still for, you know, Southern heritage

00:05:40.900 was I think what it was centered on.

00:05:42.920 The idea was to bring a lot of groups together that maybe wouldn't have otherwise come together.

00:05:48.380 And it ended up being the largest and a historic conflict between the greatest collection of

00:05:58.380 Antifa ever aggregated in American history versus the greatest assortment of nationalists,

00:06:04.800 white nationalists ever aggregated in American history into one street brawl that we ended up

00:06:12.260 winning.

00:06:13.580 Hail victory.

00:06:15.220 So it is, in essence, it was just a protest in defense of Southern culture and history

00:06:20.480 and heritage.

00:06:22.840 But...

00:06:23.200 Yes.

00:06:24.100 Excellent.

00:06:24.780 Are there...

00:06:26.580 In the formation of the event, did you have specific propaganda ends that you were looking

00:06:31.800 to achieve?

00:06:32.380 And Stryker and Zeiger, you're both welcome to interject with your opinions as you'd like.

00:06:37.160 Well, I think the main purpose of this event was to bring people off the internet and into

00:06:47.360 the street because politics are not a symposium. 0.88

00:06:51.620 Now, we have the men just mold bug assholes of the world that they can analyze and pick apart 0.97

00:06:58.580 and criticize and write these long analytical pieces. 0.97

00:07:02.640 But in reality, we have to be street politicians, which is the person that can actually dominate the

00:07:10.380 public square is the one who wins the debate.

00:07:13.160 It's not about who writes the better essay, who has a better PowerPoint, who's got the cooler

00:07:19.080 presentation.

00:07:19.780 It's about who can hold territory.

00:07:23.200 And in this sense, Charlottesville was a huge success because the activists that were there

00:07:28.940 were able to not only defeat the Jewish city mayor in the courts, but were also able to take

00:07:38.540 the park and hold it from the communist paramilitary groups against all the odds, outnumbered, outgunned.

00:07:46.660 And this is why they're so angry.

00:07:49.000 This is why the, the, the, the, the nationalists fought against the cops and against the, the,

00:07:54.940 the communist commandos and won.

00:07:57.880 So now they're, they're going to the next level with that.

00:08:01.800 That was the propaganda.

00:08:03.700 I mean, um, the alt-right has had kind of a public image for a while that was mostly molded

00:08:12.520 by, um, our enemies, by the politicians and communists and stuff like that.

00:08:17.500 And that, that image was, you know, in, in a certain sense, it was kind of an image of

00:08:23.240 dangerous, but also like we were described as being needs who, uh, live with our, in the

00:08:29.180 basements of our parents and who, um, like are only on the internet or, uh, as they say,

00:08:38.320 masturbate to, uh, anime porn and stuff like that.

00:08:41.640 So, you know, we had a certain impact on the culture at large, but it was time to, uh, make

00:08:53.120 that image evolve and show the people that we're actually like normal young men.

00:08:59.660 Mostly we're not, uh, you know, just, uh, societies refuse and we can be united.

00:09:07.480 We can be politically organized and we can be strong and we can actually accomplish things

00:09:13.360 in the real world.

00:09:14.700 So in that sense, no matter what would have happened after that, um, if we could only push

00:09:21.480 that message across, that would have been a victory, uh, propaganda of victory in that

00:09:25.700 sense, because it showed ordinary people that, um, the right and that the more, uh, extreme,

00:09:33.220 uh, factions of, of the right were actually well-organized and had a real life presence,

00:09:42.060 like Stryker said.

00:09:45.780 So in essence, what it seems to me is that there was two angles to it.

00:09:50.180 I mean, one obviously was, uh, fostering right-wing unity and cohesion and solidarity

00:09:55.800 because it'd be a call of the Unite the Right and, uh, nationalist front organizations.

00:10:00.440 But the second was, you know, a propaganda display to demonstrate, you know, our power

00:10:05.120 and integrity and, um, realness, so to speak.

00:10:13.120 Yeah, I would say that that's correct.

00:10:15.740 Okay.

00:10:16.180 I think it's also important to note that, um, another thing propaganda-wise was to show

00:10:23.300 that we get the goods, that we can actually hold the space, unlike these other groups 1.00

00:10:28.600 like Patriot Prayer, who like to, you know, they're alt-light, they like to act like they're 0.99

00:10:34.540 the white Martin Luther King, and they put their hands up and get their asses kicked. 0.99

00:10:39.220 And that can work if you got the Jew media on your side, but if you don't, you just get 1.00

00:10:45.000 your ass kicked and no one respects you. 0.99

00:10:47.280 Uh, the people at Unite the Right, they use violence completely defensively. 1.00

00:10:52.180 This is 110% self-defense.

00:10:55.000 But we, the, the nationalists showed that they can get the goods, that they can protect free

00:11:01.860 speech against the communist paramilitary groups, while all these alt-light groups, despite 0.99

00:11:07.440 having more money, uh, having a more friendly establishment, they can't do shit. 0.96

00:11:15.000 Yeah, and that's, that's been an interesting development out of this, is the, the sort of, 0.92

00:11:20.540 uh, institutional blowback, uh, from, from the Unite the Right event has actually knocked

00:11:27.720 over mostly people who didn't even show up to Charlottesville.

00:11:30.940 Uh, like, uh, Gavin McGinnis and, you know, the rebel media factions and all these people,

00:11:36.980 they've also been getting their strike of accounts revoked.

00:11:39.420 They've also been getting their hosting knocked offline.

00:11:42.220 They've also been receiving, you know, all that pressure.

00:11:46.000 Uh, as you saw in Boston, uh, immediately afterwards, you saw, uh, in the follow-up and even before,

00:11:53.760 uh, these, these Proud Boys and other kind of, uh, um, uh, half measures and kosher alternatives

00:12:01.920 to the alt-right, uh, just simply don't have the, the same as, as, as Stryker put it, don't,

00:12:07.960 don't have the same street fighting passion.

00:12:11.100 And as he said, you, you know, if you can't, uh, defend your voice in public, if you can't

00:12:16.700 speak, uh, because of the threats of violence from Antifa, then, then you don't have a legitimate

00:12:22.040 voice to legitimize your voice.

00:12:23.960 You have to prove to the audience, to the public, uh, that you're capable of, you know,

00:12:29.120 defending your ground.

00:12:30.180 And we demonstrated that most certainly in Charlottesville.

00:12:33.500 Yeah.

00:12:34.100 Cause I think one of the big differences between, uh, these kind of kosher or more establishment

00:12:40.460 friendly groups and, um, the types of groups that were at the unite the right rally is, uh,

00:12:48.720 the age demographics, like who does this stuff appeal to?

00:12:53.080 So, uh, rebel media, no matter how rebellious that they, they might want to, uh, make themselves

00:12:58.520 seem.

00:13:00.460 And, um, all the, all these other kind of more moderate, uh, outlets that also got showed,

00:13:07.300 they're more, uh, appealing, I guess, to the boomer demographic, maybe Gen X or maybe even

00:13:13.900 older people.

00:13:14.580 No, you're absolutely correct.

00:13:16.380 And, and those people, they're not the ones who are going to go in the streets and protest.

00:13:20.940 And especially not when there's, uh, you know, Antifa threatening to go beat people up.

00:13:25.820 Um, whereas the outlets that are more youth or oriented, well, those are the ones who work

00:13:32.420 in, you know, put up displays of strength and displays of organization.

00:13:37.160 So I think it shows that the future, if we're going to be actually accomplishing anything

00:13:43.980 in the real world, um, we need really to appeal to the youth because the youth are the people

00:13:50.320 who are going to actually do something.

00:13:53.600 Yeah.

00:13:54.160 We're already touching on a whole bunch of points that, um, I had personally observed

00:13:57.720 and that I think are important to hammer home.

00:13:59.440 And we're going to bring those to a, um, a focus a little bit later on.

00:14:02.900 Um, so before we move into the event itself, I wanted to talk to, um, Parrott specifically,

00:14:08.600 but also both you, uh, Zeiger and Stryker about the unite the right, um, uh, organizational

00:14:17.360 vehicle and the nationalist front and so on.

00:14:19.640 One of the, um, critiques that we're seeing vociferously expressed from, you know, elements

00:14:25.680 of, uh, the hard right, other national socialists is that attempting to unify, um, you know,

00:14:32.100 with sort of non-ideologically pure, non-fanatical racist liberal types like Richard Spencer and

00:14:37.720 opening the door to, um, you know, even further beyond the pale based stick band types, you

00:14:43.960 know, is not an effective tactic.

00:14:46.380 It's tantamount to cucking. 1.00

00:14:47.900 You know, I was even seeing, you know, guys saying ridiculous shit. 1.00

00:14:50.880 Like if I was in Charlottesville, I would have been, you know, attacking the, uh, attacking 0.99

00:14:54.840 the, the right with the Antifa because, you know, they have betrayed a national socialism

00:14:59.320 or whatever.

00:15:00.140 So I wanted to lay that on the table and get your opinion and your, um, your logic and your

00:15:06.180 response.

00:15:08.040 Well, I mean, I, I, I have a long history.

00:15:11.160 I'm a white nationalist and, you know, on, on, on a personal level, I don't really care for

00:15:17.340 Richard Spencer, uh, a lot of his ideas and strategies I don't care for, but I I've known

00:15:23.260 the man for, uh, I guess over a decade now, and he's definitely a true believer in white 0.99

00:15:28.640 national.

00:15:29.140 He's definitely an advocate for our people and, um, he's made tremendous sacrifices and Lord

00:15:35.960 knows he could be doing, uh, living a whole lot more comfortable life than he's chosen to

00:15:40.760 live.

00:15:41.040 And, uh, as far as this, uh, picking, picking apart at different groups, um, or talking about

00:15:48.820 the period, I mean, that's the whole point of having a separate organization.

00:15:51.420 Okay.

00:15:52.480 Um, you know, why, why, why do I work with Spencer?

00:15:55.700 Because we share a lot of the same goals.

00:15:57.480 Why do I not work for Spencer?

00:15:59.840 Because we don't share all the same goals.

00:16:01.780 And, you know, there, there's a continuum with that, right?

00:16:04.480 Um, you know, we, we, we have a separate vision, separate principles and a separate idea for

00:16:09.360 how to move forward.

00:16:10.320 So we have a separate group, but that we've got to, we've got at the same time, uh, have

00:16:16.120 the agility to work together when there's a united threat.

00:16:19.040 I mean, those, those Antifa don't even care about the difference between us and the patriot

00:16:24.760 hard boomers who were there, who, who actually did a really impressive job.

00:16:28.380 It is, it's kind of funny.

00:16:29.540 These militia types actually got to live out their fantasy of maintaining law and order,

00:16:33.980 uh, while the, uh, while law enforcement, uh, was incapable.

00:16:39.340 So, uh, you know, that, that had to be awesome for them.

00:16:42.040 Uh, but you know, they, they don't, they just are, are against, uh, white people, uh, period. 0.93

00:16:48.380 They're anti-white.

00:16:49.140 So it doesn't matter, you know, what my differences with Spencer, you know, and at the same time,

00:16:55.380 like I thought, you know, basic stick man missed an opportunity when he didn't show up,

00:16:59.940 um, to, to, to fight this radical left.

00:17:03.400 But I think that that sort of goes towards, you know, when you, when you're pushing a

00:17:07.520 polarization, uh, you, you can't always predict which way people will fall.

00:17:12.500 And it's kind of curious how many people in kind of like the magazine, when you, when

00:17:17.100 you're like, okay, it's pro-whites versus anti-whites, pick a side.

00:17:20.000 And they're like, uh, okay, anti-white, uh, and you know, you just kind of, kind of, uh,

00:17:28.200 I, I think it's better that we invited him and he didn't come, uh, rather than him having

00:17:33.320 not been invited because now we have some clarity on what his priorities are.

00:17:38.800 I, I agree completely with, with Parrott, but I, I would say one thing to the critics

00:17:44.300 that to remember 1933 with Hitler, right? 0.81

00:17:48.860 They had the critics back then too.

00:17:51.400 Uh, honestly, I am more sympathetic to Strasser to a point.

00:17:55.460 However, this faction of the NSDAP was attacked, started attacking Hitler for consenting to

00:18:04.000 a coalition government with the old reactionaries with Hindenburg and all those people.

00:18:08.900 And he did make some concessions in order to create a paradigm or a frame where he could

00:18:16.640 potentially take power.

00:18:18.380 But, you know, everything in politics is give and take.

00:18:21.220 You have to give a little to get a little.

00:18:23.720 And as long as people don't cuck on the important stuff, which in my opinion, the number one thing

00:18:30.020 that we can't accept any concessions on is on the Jewish question.

00:18:33.900 Because as soon as you agree to groups that obfuscate lie and cover for Jews, then you get 0.80

00:18:42.480 taken over by Jews. 0.98

00:18:43.680 But outside of that, I think we ought to be open to all the groups that are down with

00:18:50.660 the cause.

00:18:51.440 Some of them are lighter.

00:18:52.540 Some of them are harder.

00:18:53.660 But we should be within reason down and helping and working together with all of them.

00:19:01.240 Yeah.

00:19:02.000 I mean, at this point, um, none of the people and groups involved is a major political force.

00:19:09.400 I mean, there were no political parties involved there and no groups who, um, you know, are

00:19:16.760 within arm's reach of maybe taking power or anything like that.

00:19:21.080 So, uh, the reality is that the normies and even the media who are covering this, they're

00:19:28.780 not going to differentiate between any of the people attending and they're not going to

00:19:34.580 be able to give a, you know, a strong and clear political label to anybody.

00:19:38.820 So, really, predictably, they just labeled everyone who was there a Nazi and that's it.

00:19:47.440 So, in this sense, uh, having a group of more hardcore Nazis, so-called, go there and 0.98

00:19:56.360 counter-protest, like, the white nationalists, uh, it would have just been a clusterfuck and 0.96

00:20:03.160 nobody would actually have understood anything. 0.94

00:20:05.560 It was just, it would just, just created confusion.

00:20:08.780 Um, it would have been really kind of silly to do that.

00:20:13.340 Um, so that, that's what I mean, addressing what you mentioned, like people say, oh, I

00:20:17.900 would have counter-protested the white nationalists and the Antifa.

00:20:21.160 I mean, these events, it was already kind of an insane, confusing event that practically

00:20:28.620 no one is actually making sense of because of everything that happened and all the lies

00:20:33.480 that have been said about it and the, the kind of counter-narratives that have been weaved

00:20:38.520 around it.

00:20:39.040 Um, when you have a propaganda event, it has to be very simple and straightforward and people

00:20:48.760 have to get a clear message out of it and creating all, creating confusions and like

00:20:54.080 different factions and all that, like none of that is actually going to cut through and

00:20:57.880 reach the common people if that's what you want to do or even get mentioned in the media.

00:21:03.180 So, um, it really, for the United to Right rally, either you didn't go or you went and

00:21:10.520 just kind of merged with the, uh, collective there.

00:21:13.840 And anyway, obviously, predictably, that collective is just going to be labeled, uh, hardcore

00:21:19.040 Nazi no matter what you do. 0.62

00:21:21.000 So I don't really see the point of, um, whining about this.

00:21:25.440 Yeah.

00:21:26.000 Well, here's a point that I think, uh, a friend of mine brought up the other day and I think

00:21:31.340 it's critical is that the North American far right or the alt-right, whatever you want

00:21:34.740 to call it, is mostly defined by its enemies and by its opposition because the white population

00:21:39.880 of North America is at war with international Jewry and the synagogue of Satan and their 1.00

00:21:45.380 allies and so on.

00:21:46.840 And so the, in a sense, the Unite the Right protesters and the alt-right in general are

00:21:52.100 defined by our enemies because we are their enemies, not necessarily because of our, the

00:21:57.440 substance of our arguments. 0.99

00:21:58.960 And that's why, you know, guys who are MAGA and guys who are, you know, fucking worship 0.95

00:22:05.500 James Mason, okay, are considered to be the one in the same entity by the news media and 0.96

00:22:11.060 by our enemies because they both are, in a sense, you know, anti-Jew to one degree or

00:22:15.640 another, pro-white to one degree or another, anti-feminist to one degree or another, and

00:22:19.800 so on.

00:22:20.740 And so I think that it's important, um, in North America where we have such an, it's a

00:22:26.940 continent, it's not a country, uh, we have such a, uh, a divided and, um, I, atomized

00:22:34.800 population that the outside pressure is one of the most powerful forces for building, uh,

00:22:41.200 white solidarity.

00:22:41.980 Yeah, and from a propaganda perspective, I mean, would you rather that the media report

00:22:51.800 that, uh, you had like 2,000, uh, hardcore fascists who, you know, protested against Antifa or would

00:23:01.520 you rather, uh, or would you rather, uh, the media say, oh, there were, uh, 1,997 Trump

00:23:07.520 supporters and three, uh, hardcore fascists who counter-protested both of them.

00:23:14.020 Like, honestly, if you, if you really want to differentiate yourself from them, um, it might

00:23:22.180 not actually improve the, the, the kind of, uh, coverage of the event in your favor, that,

00:23:29.300 that's, uh, yeah, that's, uh, to, to bounce off what Zyger said, uh, we, we kind of have

00:23:35.040 an opportunity in a way to, uh, leap off of the, uh, Jewish hysteria, right? 0.86

00:23:42.240 Um, you know, because they, they do, they, they, uh, want to, uh, they also, uh, want this

00:23:50.000 to, for some reason, they, they want this to be polarized between the vicious anti-Semites, 0.93

00:23:54.900 uh, who want to kill 6 million Jews and the, the, the victimized, uh, Jewish people, uh, 0.94

00:24:02.460 struggling against those mighty, uh, you know, the mighty Pharaoh and, you know, to, to some, 0.91

00:24:08.780 to some degree like that, that kind of throws a lot of the MAGA types under the bus and they're

00:24:13.400 not able, uh, they're not able to define themselves in the public space because they, they always

00:24:19.540 get labeled as us.

00:24:21.900 Yeah.

00:24:22.720 Well, right now, what's going on in the West is that we're undergoing a huge, uh, storm.

00:24:29.220 It's her hurricane, hurricane Murray, hurricane Shlomo is flying through our cities and we got

00:24:36.260 flooding everywhere.

00:24:37.380 And when you see flooding up to your face, you don't care what the exact, uh, nuances of

00:24:44.980 the person helping you is someone comes with an inflatable raft and gets you the hell out

00:24:50.700 of there.

00:24:51.240 So this is how we have to see this.

00:24:53.400 We don't, we don't even have enough people to even probably win a Republican election in

00:24:59.620 two election cycles.

00:25:01.180 So if you're going to get split up into all this factionalism, uh, with when it comes to

00:25:07.380 ideology now, of course, I think everyone here is a national socialist to one extent or

00:25:12.200 another, uh, however, you know, there are people that aren't quite there or there are

00:25:17.580 people that have slightly different views or whatever, but right now what we have to

00:25:22.500 politicize in a street movement is our racial self-defense.

00:25:26.100 And that racial self-defense is like Parrott said, uh, polarization between us and Jews.

00:25:32.040 Once we can do that, once enough people have been polarized against the Jews, everything

00:25:37.420 else comes together like a puzzle because this is the red thread throughout history. 0.98

00:25:42.940 The Jew is the red thread of white oppression of white murder, wherever whites and Jews live 0.98

00:25:48.160 together in a country, whether it's South Africa, Australia, Argentina, America, Canada, wherever 0.99

00:25:53.180 these two entities are sharing living space, the white is under attack and the Jew is the 1.00

00:25:58.160 attacker.

00:25:59.060 So this is what we have to have our people understand first before we get into any debate

00:26:04.020 about, Oh, does this person want to go this far or that far?

00:26:08.040 This is the important part.

00:26:09.500 And the Jews are helping us do it. 0.99

00:26:12.880 Yeah.

00:26:13.420 Excellent point.

00:26:14.160 It seems to me that there is, um, it's absolutely correct that by drawing in sort of these, um,

00:26:21.500 other members into the Charlottesville rally, it's certainly from a propaganda perspective

00:26:25.860 does radicalize, uh, MAGA.

00:26:28.560 And so they, you're right, it doesn't give them space to operate as sort of, um, Americana,

00:26:33.720 you know, Donald Trump, um, you know, moderate, you know, moderate Republicans or whatever.

00:26:39.320 There is, uh, it does force the polarization.

00:26:42.120 And so I think from a propaganda perspective, that is, um, very useful and helpful.

00:26:47.240 So is there anything else you gentlemen would like to say on the organization or, uh, we can

00:26:52.920 move into discussing the actual event itself fairly briefly?

00:26:55.580 Well, I might just, um, say something I've been kind of thinking about in a certain sense

00:27:02.460 related to your initial question of, uh, you know, should fascists or quote unquote more

00:27:09.400 hardcore have protested against like the, the general kind of norm, not normie, but more,

00:27:16.520 uh, I don't know if you could call them more moderate or white nationalists, you know,

00:27:22.620 uh, um, group.

00:27:25.440 And I've been thinking that in a certain sense, um, as time goes on, it's becoming more and

00:27:33.920 more clear that it's unrealistic to have, uh, a large group in which everyone's a fascist

00:27:42.520 basically, because I think in our newly understood, uh, um, conception of, uh, what fascism is about

00:27:53.100 and like, uh, what, what, you know, the ultimate truth of all of these things are supposed to

00:27:58.080 be, I think only a very small minority of people can attain that kind of level of understanding

00:28:07.560 and what the model that we're going to see for the future, I think if we have large groups,

00:28:14.080 it's going to be fascists in like the top echelons and, you know, more ordinary people

00:28:21.840 composing the rest of the group.

00:28:23.480 Um, saying that we, we, even a very militant and very kind of on the ground

00:28:35.020 kind of group who, uh, does a lot of activism, it can be, uh, pretty effective to have, you

00:28:43.840 know, people who don't necessarily understand all of these nuances, but who, uh, just follow

00:28:49.240 your leadership.

00:28:50.640 I mean, as long as the leadership understands what's important and, you know, the nature of

00:28:56.100 the world, um, most of the other people don't really need to.

00:29:00.400 So I've been seeing that a lot in my group, uh, in the sense that a lot of the people in

00:29:07.220 my group don't like, don't consider themselves necessarily fascists, but the, the upper echelons

00:29:12.760 do.

00:29:13.520 And basically they, they just follow us even though they don't necessarily, you know, they

00:29:17.700 haven't, they haven't read Mein Kampf or they haven't read the doctrine of fascism or anything

00:29:22.600 like that.

00:29:23.000 And I don't think they care, but they just want to do something.

00:29:25.160 And, uh, they see us as having knowledge and, um, experience and understanding, and

00:29:31.040 they respect that.

00:29:32.140 And so they kind of, uh, they go along with it or they're, they're interested.

00:29:37.720 And, um, I think that that's a model that can work for a lot of different types of groups.

00:29:43.640 What were you about to say, Striker?

00:29:45.440 I was going to say that you're, you're very right and on point with that because, um, for

00:29:50.200 example, the golden dawn in Greece, a real world example, the average golden dawn voter

00:29:55.720 doesn't understand all of these things like fascism, national socialism and whatnot, but

00:30:01.940 the leadership does.

00:30:03.100 The leadership is composed of national socialists and the people that are officers and commanders

00:30:08.720 in different regions are national socialists.

00:30:11.040 They're all vetted old guard types, but this has an impact that trembles downwards to the point

00:30:19.280 where you have a soccer player, a 20 year old soccer player score a goal.

00:30:23.280 And then he does a Roman salute in Greece.

00:30:27.260 And when someone asked him after there, he's like, I don't even know why I did that.

00:30:31.540 I just wanted to, cause it's cool, you know?

00:30:34.000 And so not everyone is going to understand every single little nuance and read every book.

00:30:40.460 And, you know, we can't be, uh, nationalists Trotskyites, you know, uh, some of this stuff

00:30:47.020 is complicated.

00:30:47.720 Yeah.

00:30:48.620 Well, I agree with both of you gentlemen, but I also, uh, while listening, I thought there's

00:30:55.700 a way to interpret that where it's saying that we put on one face for the normies and put

00:30:59.800 on one face for, you know, smart people.

00:31:03.840 Oh, that's not what I meant.

00:31:04.880 Totally.

00:31:05.260 Yeah.

00:31:05.640 Yeah.

00:31:05.960 No, no.

00:31:06.280 That's not what I meant.

00:31:06.900 I'm clarifying.

00:31:07.720 I'm clarifying.

00:31:08.620 Yeah.

00:31:09.140 Um, uh, absolutely avoid being doctrinaire.

00:31:13.260 Understand that people, you know, have their different levels of engagement, their levels

00:31:18.020 of focus.

00:31:18.660 And that's, uh, one thing strikers always driven home.

00:31:21.680 And I agree with is that the average person is smarter than a lot of us ideologues assume.

00:31:26.700 We, you know, there's so much condescension towards normal people in a lot of, in a lot

00:31:32.300 of these, uh, blogs and stuff that irritates me.

00:31:35.060 Uh, but yeah, we, we should definitely avoid having a sort of esoteric insider versus outside.

00:31:42.300 We should have, uh, a singular unified message.

00:31:45.860 Um, that's, uh, no matter how high up you get in the ranks of the organization, it's the

00:31:50.720 same message.

00:31:51.420 Now, I mean, if you want to, uh, get more into the details of it and things like that,

00:31:55.520 if you're more of an intellectual ideological type, uh, great.

00:31:59.020 But I, I, I want it to where a 16 year old, uh, with access to the internet, uh, if he

00:32:04.940 wants to, can know everything about our ideas, uh, without any obstacles or initiatic, like,

00:32:10.520 oh, okay, now you're an insider.

00:32:11.820 Now you get to know what we're really doing here.

00:32:13.880 I think that clarity, simplicity, and honesty is one of the greatest strengths, uh, we have

00:32:19.520 against, uh, the Jew. 0.73

00:32:22.280 Oh, yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:32:24.240 Yeah.

00:32:24.460 And also, um, I think it's important, but, uh, my, my, to clarify my point though, I agree

00:32:30.520 with you a hundred percent, Bear.

00:32:31.560 The average person is smarter than we give them credit for.

00:32:34.920 However, there are some people that you have to bring them in a little slower and teach

00:32:40.140 them a little slower than other people.

00:32:42.940 They all end up understanding it.

00:32:44.860 And I think the way to do that is to keep things slightly out of their reach, you know,

00:32:49.980 just like a bicep.

00:32:51.160 If you'll work a bicep with slightly more weight, it gets bigger and you can keep going

00:32:55.660 up.

00:32:56.560 That's how a lot of these people, because sometimes these nationalist movements, like

00:32:59.700 say the golden dawn or in Slovakia, the Slovak party and such, they gain momentum faster

00:33:07.340 than they can ideologically instruct all their people.

00:33:11.740 What they do is they get the people in first.

00:33:13.880 They don't say, Hey, you don't agree with my doctrine a hundred percent yet.

00:33:17.380 So you're not allowed.

00:33:18.260 What they do is they bring anyone who wants to join in and then they instruct them once

00:33:23.960 they're inside.

00:33:25.600 And I think that's the effective model.

00:33:27.680 But I agree with you completely, Bear.

00:33:29.220 Yeah.

00:33:30.120 Because basically the dynamics of any group, it's based on authority and leadership and

00:33:36.860 charisma more than anything else.

00:33:39.420 Even a group in which everyone agrees ideologically can easily fall apart if there is no strong

00:33:45.960 leadership, if there's no human bonds, if the leaders don't have like authority and, you

00:33:53.840 know, all various types of human problems.

00:33:56.240 But conversely, you can have a group that's very strong in which a lot of the people don't

00:34:03.440 agree or don't understand the ideology, like in a very deep way.

00:34:07.940 As long as there is a trust and strong human bonds, the ideology can come like over time.

00:34:15.300 As long as the leadership knows, you know, the, or even just one guy, even the leader has

00:34:21.800 a very clear understanding if everyone loves them and respects them and, um, they will be

00:34:29.620 very open to receiving instruction because, um, there's a difference between instructing

00:34:36.320 people and propagandizing basically people need to respect you and, um, follow your authority.

00:34:44.980 And when they do, they will just accept anything you say because of that, uh, faith and trust.

00:34:51.020 So that, that's what I meant mostly when I said that you don't need to have everyone on

00:34:55.320 board, um, ideologically, as long as you're on board ideologically and that you can have

00:35:03.460 the charisma and the kind of leadership to get everyone, um, on your side and respect.

00:35:09.740 You know, yeah, indeed.

00:35:12.660 And I would just make one, um, observation is that one of the features of, um, you know,

00:35:19.280 Jewish communism, cultural Marxism is that it's totalitarian. 0.74

00:35:22.900 And so every action, every part of life becomes like a political statement, a political act,

00:35:28.020 because it's, it's forced, it's unnatural.

00:35:30.360 It has an end.

00:35:31.860 And I think that we, we grow up in this society where like increasingly everything is political. 1.00

00:35:37.500 You know, your toothbrush sucks dicks, so to speak. 1.00

00:35:41.280 And I think that what we do is we tend to, we, we internalize this. 0.99

00:35:45.860 And so we sometimes look at non-political things as if they are political.

00:35:50.820 And so for me, the biggest thing is this with women, you know, like I don't interact with 1.00

00:35:55.580 women as if they're political creatures. 1.00

00:35:58.200 Uh, you know, I don't, you know, I don't, I don't take that approach to any of them that

00:36:02.080 I know because they're not in their essence.

00:36:03.980 And I think that, you know, a lot of normal people are not especially political, but they

00:36:10.640 do have supra-political values that descend into the realm of the ideological that we

00:36:17.100 advance and support.

00:36:22.420 Right. 0.95

00:36:23.160 They don't, they, they don't want their, uh, kids taught in school to mutilate their genitals 1.00

00:36:28.680 and, uh, pump themselves with hormones, uh, and they don't want their children attacked

00:36:32.800 on the way to school.

00:36:33.700 Uh, and, and, you know, these, these very simple things, you know, if you look at, if you look

00:36:39.240 at how we, we've won in the past, um, uh, you know, they, they didn't want Bolsheviks overrunning

00:36:45.460 their country.

00:36:45.980 They, they didn't want these cannibal capitalists, uh, destroying their, uh, working class families 0.96

00:36:52.500 and stuff.

00:36:53.620 And, and, you know, you, you, you can extend from that, these, uh, rather, rather specific,

00:36:59.780 nuanced, uh, national socialist, uh, and fascist principles or whatever, uh, with all kinds

00:37:04.920 of great sources and everything.

00:37:06.820 But at, at the end of the day, it's, it's more of a visceral tribal thing that we're on

00:37:12.260 the side of you and your family against these sinister forces.

00:37:16.880 Um, and, and, you know, uh, uh, that's, that's a very perennial instinctive tribal national

00:37:24.200 thing that, that you're tapping into.

00:37:26.440 And I think sometimes as idea people, uh, we, we let our ideas and our buzzwords, uh, and

00:37:32.880 our lexicon get in the way of just being like, look, working class family, all these other

00:37:37.420 people are talking about ideas and abstractions.

00:37:39.700 We're talking about you.

00:37:41.740 Um, we're, we're, we're standing for your family, for, for your kids.

00:37:46.880 Uh, for your job while all these other people are talking about, you know, anarchism and

00:37:52.540 Marxism and globalism and all these things, you know, we're, we're actually fighting for

00:37:58.420 you.

00:38:00.260 I agree completely.

00:38:01.660 I think that showing the public, and this isn't to be condescending, but showing the public

00:38:07.800 that we can bring them real world solutions to their problems is far more important than

00:38:14.420 writing some convincing ideological essay about fascism or national socialism.

00:38:20.240 People, like I said before, need to see that we can get them the goods.

00:38:25.960 And then once we get them the goods, they'll be willing to listen to what we have to say,

00:38:31.360 but they're not going to listen to you just because you're, you sound smart or you, you've

00:38:35.700 read a lot of books or whatever.

00:38:37.360 They're going to listen to you when you show and demonstrate that you can defend them and

00:38:43.100 that you can help them and that you're the only vehicle in town.

00:38:47.300 And that's why it's important to both attack the left, but also fiercely attack conservatives.

00:38:54.120 Now, this is where factionalism can come into play.

00:38:57.780 When I talk about conservatives, I'm not talking about Richard Spencer, what you guys call racist

00:39:02.400 liberals.

00:39:02.700 He's down with us.

00:39:03.680 He's with us.

00:39:04.620 I'm talking about the Gavin McInnes's, Milo's, and absolutely bad chaparral.

00:39:12.800 We have to get all these guys, attack them ferociously and fiercely to, because they take

00:39:19.320 our ideas and offer a fake vehicle to nowhere using our ideas, but a power washing them of the

00:39:29.400 important stuff.

00:39:30.260 So we have to be principled on the important stuff, but we also have to be practical and

00:39:35.880 reach people in ways that matter to them in their day-to-day lives.

00:39:42.060 Excellent.

00:39:43.080 Yeah, I think, I think it's pretty, pretty simple to agree with these things.

00:39:46.920 Just, I mean, there's, there's core principles and then there's the application of that to

00:39:52.080 the real world.

00:39:52.700 And, I mean, we can look at any of real life examples, whether it's, you know, even national

00:39:58.620 action or a golden dawn, the act, the acquisition of power so that people come and support you

00:40:06.860 and view you as the legitimate defender of the people over the state comes from providing

00:40:12.040 services, from providing rewards to people, from helping them in the issues that they really

00:40:17.600 care about, as we've just discussed.

00:40:19.660 Zeiger and I and several others did a full podcast on this, on Mysterium Fashies, entitled

00:40:24.780 This Is The Plan.

00:40:26.420 So you can all check that out.

00:40:28.120 It's a great episode.

00:40:29.040 So, moving into the actual event itself, there's, there are, the past month this has been one

00:40:39.380 of the only things covered in the news media cycle.

00:40:42.000 And certainly it's been discussed intensely by all sorts of far-right media.

00:40:48.300 And I don't want the purpose of this podcast to be, to, to give our listeners a blow by blow

00:40:52.800 of what happened.

00:40:53.440 There are many other articles and podcasts that you can go read that, that do that.

00:40:57.300 So I want to focus on sort of the big events that took place at the rally and what they

00:41:04.300 mean sort of now.

00:41:06.460 So I suppose the, I'll give it to you first, Parrot, you know, if you can give us sort of

00:41:12.560 your quick and dirty as to what happened at Charlottesville.

00:41:18.040 Well, what happened at Charlottesville is they staged a bum fight and they lost. 0.57

00:41:22.160 They, they, the, the police, but about a month earlier, there was that Klan rally, which

00:41:31.400 had only like maybe what, 20, 20 Klansmen show up.

00:41:35.360 It was not affiliated with the rest of the movement anyway.

00:41:38.120 I don't wish to counter-signal them, but I'm just saying that it was a separate event.

00:41:41.380 Um, and what happened was this large assortment of several hundred Antifa, um, that the police

00:41:48.880 fought them back and made sure that none of the Klansmen who were exercising their first

00:41:53.000 amendment permitted, uh, you know, American Nazi party versus Skokie ruling, uh, you know,

00:41:58.720 they had every right to, uh, host that event and the police were obligated to protect them

00:42:03.660 and they did so.

00:42:04.540 And there's this huge outcry.

00:42:06.060 Uh, so what, what kind of happened with Charlottesville was this toxic thing where you have the mayor

00:42:10.180 and the vice mayor, uh, both eagerly wanting to help Antifa and they were under the impression

00:42:16.400 that there would be enough Antifa there that if the police stood down and just said that

00:42:21.640 they lost control of the situation, um, that they could be, you know, the, the mayor and

00:42:27.800 the vice mayor, uh, uh, Sanger and Bellamy, uh, who defeated the alt-right and ran, ran the

00:42:35.220 alt-right out of their town, you know, ran, ran the racist out, uh, and it was going to

00:42:40.320 be a big moment for them.

00:42:42.020 Uh, and what, what actually happened was, uh, we ended up winning the fight and after,

00:42:48.620 after, you know, it feels so much longer when you're actually in the middle of the brawl,

00:42:52.900 but I guess it was only like half an hour of actual, uh, fighting that I was even involved

00:42:57.780 in for, for the state of emergency was declared and I was arrested.

00:43:01.540 Um, uh, we ended up winning and once they saw that we were winning, uh, then they called

00:43:08.800 the game off, but it was, it was too late and they'd lost control, you know, it was just

00:43:13.120 poor planning on their part, but, but the police on the individual level very much had like,

00:43:18.540 uh, okay, you guys want to accuse us of being tyrannical if we get involved, you know, have

00:43:23.140 bad each other. Um, uh, sort of a smug, uh, derelict attitude. Uh, and the, the, you know,

00:43:31.040 the, the local and state leadership were, uh, totally behind them on that. And it ended up

00:43:36.920 being a rather toxic situation for them where after they lost, then, you know, there was all

00:43:42.160 these antipers running up to the police. Like, why aren't you, you know, why aren't you protecting

00:43:45.920 us? Why aren't you? Well, it's, it's like, you know, uh, you're, you're supposed to be

00:43:49.700 defeating these, these racists, uh, go, go, go defeat them. We're standing back to let

00:43:54.360 you do that. But they kept losing in the actual, you know, street battle. So, you know, in the

00:44:01.000 aftermath, like, you know, Sanger's run out of his own city council meetings by, by the

00:44:05.680 antifa who were mad that they didn't get protected enough. Uh, which is, uh, especially

00:44:10.640 funny given all the, you know, uh, what, what I like is, uh, you know, anarchist

00:44:16.160 theorists are, are the first victims of anarchy in practice, you know, all these

00:44:20.660 anarchists, uh, mad that the cops didn't do their job. Chaos, what? I didn't expect

00:44:27.280 this. Well, well, from everything I've seen, um, like from my account, I'm pretty

00:44:34.780 sure that antifa were actually outnumbered at the event. Uh, what do you guys

00:44:40.500 think about that? Is that your perception as well? On our side, I know, uh, um, there

00:44:48.320 was a, a lot of, uh, uh, failure to communication, fog of war, uh, you know, kind

00:44:54.100 of stuff. Yeah. We were separated a lot. Yeah. But I felt outnumbered, uh, by the

00:45:00.020 antifa crowd, which seemed to sprawl endlessly. But I mean, the thing is in what

00:45:03.960 we, you know, same way in Sacramento, the problem with antifa is, you know, you have

00:45:08.760 a quality versus quantity thing. Like, you know, 80% of the nationalists who

00:45:13.620 showed up were psychologically and physically prepared to fight. Uh, maybe

00:45:20.440 20% of the antifa were, and once, you know, I think it's one of the reasons we

00:45:25.620 won in Sacramento with such absurd odds. In Sacramento, it was 20 versus 300, and

00:45:30.580 we won. But, you know, the problem is the actual fighters get lost in the sea of

00:45:35.940 jackasses who showed up as sort of like a, you know, a Facebook event kind of, oh, 0.98

00:45:41.520 we're gonna, we're gonna shake our fists at fascists. And then when it's an actual 0.99

00:45:45.900 fight, um, there, there were very few in the antifa thing actually prepared, prepared

00:45:53.980 to brawl when the brawling was on. Uh, you know, maybe if they'd manage, but, you

00:45:59.520 know, they, they ideologically by principle can't properly coordinate or structure

00:46:03.940 themselves, because that would go against their whole, you know, uh, degenerating

00:46:08.420 vision, I guess.

00:46:09.480 And you will, and I'll tell you, that's actually, the antifa didn't really want to

00:46:13.400 attack. Uh, I think from what I understand, the antifa were scared that they didn't

00:46:17.780 want to attack. The only thing that created the conflict, like the, the brawl, was

00:46:23.400 because the police basically marched and forced the two groups together.

00:46:26.880 They did. Yeah. And there's very much like, uh, uh, you know, when the Nationalist Front

00:46:33.080 was entering and they, they had created that human shield wall. Like I was looking at the

00:46:36.700 video and there's, they all kind of held hands, um, to block us. And you could see their eyes

00:46:42.580 get wider and wider as they realized this was not some symbolic Black Lives Matter, you 0.98

00:46:49.020 know, walking some poor bastard going to work in the morning kind of thing. We have to sit 0.97

00:46:53.440 there in his car looking at this fat Black girl. Like these, these guys were actually going to 0.99

00:46:59.400 force themselves through. And that, that moment of realization where, no, this is not some,

00:47:05.340 some cheesy, uh, uh, cheesy media and protester kind of thing, you know, like they do with the Black 1.00

00:47:12.100 Lives Matter and the Black Black stuff. And you saw in St. Louis, uh, yesterday, uh, they were

00:47:17.640 actually going to have to fight. And that, you could see like, you know, uh, their, their smile

00:47:22.820 and optimism gone, you know? Yeah. Well, when we arrived at the park, like my group,

00:47:29.100 um, um, there were protesters like blocking the way they were holding hands and everything

00:47:34.820 like saying, Oh, you're not going to get in. And we just marched in and they, they split

00:47:40.840 open like the Red Sea, like they put up no resistance as soon as we arrived at the, uh, you

00:47:46.020 know, where, where they were holding hands. So yeah, they, they were not really, um, enthusiastic

00:47:51.620 about, uh, fighting. And obviously we were not going to fight anybody unless we were

00:47:56.700 attacked. Um, it was all purely defensive. So I, I think I'm pretty confident that if

00:48:02.940 the police had not behaved the way that they did, that there would have been no brawl

00:48:07.920 at all, probably. 0.99

00:48:09.700 Well, obviously they would have thrown shit at us. 0.99

00:48:12.740 Go ahead, striker. 0.99

00:48:13.380 Well, when it came to the nationalist front, the, uh, the column that marched in on market

00:48:19.640 street, we were definitely outnumbered there. And, um, I have to say the antifas that were

00:48:26.740 there were probably expecting because for all the crap they talk about the Nazis and white 0.99

00:48:32.900 supremacists being so violent and vicious, they're actually used to a, in reality, they expect the 1.00

00:48:41.060 guys they're protesting against to sit there and take their bullshit. So when they saw the 1.00

00:48:47.140 nationalist front approaching on market street, they did have the numbers. They had the crowd

00:48:51.720 and I think they were willing to fight, but they didn't understand that the nationalist

00:48:56.400 front was willing to fight back and willing to use whatever means at, at the disposal of

00:49:02.740 the group to get into the permitted rally. So once they realized that they scrambled away,

00:49:10.900 like vermin, I mean, one of the guys is going help, help, help. And the other guy was like,

00:49:17.180 Oh, we'll get back. There was some black guy begging people. Come on guys. You got to come 1.00

00:49:21.900 back. So, I mean, we've seen the footage we were outnumbered, but you see, the problem

00:49:26.640 is that everyone, I'm pretty confident that 90% of the people that marched in the nationalist

00:49:32.520 front column, we're not afraid to die that day. And the antifas they're used to sniping.

00:49:38.880 They want to see what drives an antifas is the idea that you can physically harm someone

00:49:46.960 that offends you or that you don't like, or that you don't like the look of that you can

00:49:51.580 physically hurt them and then run away and retreat to your middle-class lifestyle to go 0.98

00:49:56.320 eat some fucking couscous or go and, uh, uh, do eat some fusion food and watch a Broadway 1.00

00:50:01.620 play. But see that day on, uh, in Charlottesville on August 12th, this was something they had 0.99

00:50:09.180 never seen before. And I guarantee to you that they're still traumatized about it. They have

00:50:15.220 never seen. That's why, you know, this is why antifas show up in big numbers to attack

00:50:19.580 the proud boys, to attack the Patriotard prayer, to attack all these other alt light groups,

00:50:25.760 because they know they don't, they don't hit back. So what they do is they take the beating

00:50:30.420 from the nationals, the real thing, and then they go and they run off and take it out on

00:50:34.640 Gavin McInnes, which is fine by me. I don't care.

00:50:36.800 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the irony of it. Like the, the more moderate a group is,

00:50:45.260 the more likely it is to be attacked by antifa or radical feminists or anybody like that. Um, 0.90

00:50:53.460 we, we, when you project weakness, you invite violence. Indeed. And I would make a comment is

00:51:01.740 that the, um, antifa, you know, who were organized fairly centrally through George Soros and his,

00:51:08.220 um, money laundering organizations and subsidiaries, they, like, they actually have an internal color

00:51:12.980 system about who is willing to, you know, commit violence and who's not. And so you're actually

00:51:18.780 absolutely correct. It's only about, uh, one in 10 or one in 20 that has, um, you know, previously

00:51:24.680 signed up, you know, for whatever the, their black band or whatever, which says that they're willing

00:51:29.840 to, uh, throw acid in people's faces and, you know, use bike locks and that kind of stuff.

00:51:36.420 So I have to correct you there on, on the Soros thing. I actually, I, I've known antifas all my

00:51:44.320 life and I can say that they probably don't directly take money from Soros. However, the groups that

00:51:52.680 cover for them, like these, uh, these, um, liberal groups, the progressive groups, for example, I'll tell

00:51:58.780 you this, Cornell West was in Charlottesville with all the local Charlottesville clergy, you know,

00:52:06.020 they got the dyke and the rabbi and these people were actively covering, supporting the, cause what 0.99

00:52:16.280 happens is that the antifas, they are, they are, they do coordinate the antifas go, they attack people

00:52:21.500 and then they run back behind the official face, right? They run behind the clergy, the, uh, the

00:52:27.900 liberals, the, the so-called pacifists. These people provide smoke screens for the antifas, but

00:52:34.240 they're all indeed working together and the antifas get indirect support from this big Jew money through 0.91

00:52:41.480 the national lawyers guild, which represents them pro bono. Whenever they commit a felony, they get ACLU

00:52:47.620 support because as much as the ACLU says they sued and protected our rights at Charlottesville. 0.98

00:52:52.940 The truth is that they were late Johnny come lately's and they didn't do shit once it was 0.96

00:52:59.040 necessary. Once we needed them, uh, to, for, for example, to advocate for our rights, they didn't 0.96

00:53:04.480 do anything. In fact, they started attacking us. So that was all BS. So in other words, these leftists,

00:53:10.700 these antifas, the, the, the communist terrorists depend. There's always a degree of separation.

00:53:17.180 The, the, the anarchists on the street gets connected to Daryl Lamont Jenkins, who's connected

00:53:23.540 to the Southern poverty law center, which is connected to the ADL, which is connected to the

00:53:28.760 U S government. So yes, there is a lot of that, but, uh, they make sure to keep a facade of a degree

00:53:36.300 of separation between them. But yes, they, they, uh, it's not really Soros, but it, there are Jews

00:53:42.700 behind the scenes that aren't facilitating them. Yeah. I mean, I can give an example in the sense

00:53:49.720 that, uh, this is something that not that many people know, but, uh, one of the big funders of

00:53:55.900 Antifa is, um, some, uh, an organization called United for equality and affirmative action.

00:54:03.300 And that's kind of a, kind of a hoax charity thing organized by Donna Stern and, uh, they directly

00:54:11.780 fund, um, by any means necessary BAMN. And I guess everyone knows, uh, about Yvette Falarka,

00:54:19.300 you know, she's a middle school teacher and she's totally insane. And, uh, those are people who are 0.99

00:54:24.880 actually like organizing Antifa groups and organizing violence and bussing people around.

00:54:32.220 And, um, so it's not just George Soros. I mean, there's multiple organizations like, uh, United

00:54:40.900 for equality and affirmative action who are taking money from various liberal causes and funneling

00:54:47.420 them into, uh, you know, direct Antifa violence. And some research has been done into that.

00:54:52.480 Yeah, indeed. My point was the father, Raphael Johnson, who, uh, was there and was blinded by

00:54:58.760 bear mace after he recovered, uh, went through and traced some of the money that was being laundered

00:55:04.600 through these, um, different, uh, you know, PACs and shell organizations and activist groups. And,

00:55:11.120 you know, he, it was his conclusion that, you know, not George Soros exclusively, but he was among

00:55:16.820 one of the largest funders of many of these, uh, groups and that it was just simply, uh,

00:55:22.960 laundered several times down. But indeed, both of you are correct. Oh yeah. So the,

00:55:29.280 the, basically the actual circumstances, the event, it seems to me is to be short, um, that you all,

00:55:36.760 uh, showed up as a kind of, uh, pan right rally to defend Southern heritage and the statue of Robert E.

00:55:43.560 Lee, having done everything according to the, uh, letter of the law and getting the, uh, a lawful

00:55:49.640 permit to assemble. And then what happened is literally the first scene of George Lincoln

00:55:54.880 Rockwell's this time, the world, except 60 years later. And for those of you who have not read that

00:56:00.920 book in the first chapter or the first, uh, section of the book, I can't recall exactly George Lincoln

00:56:06.440 Rockwell recalls, uh, a scene that was strikingly similar to Charlottesville where his ANP had gotten

00:56:14.160 the permits to set up and do a rally, a public speech. And they got there and showed up and were

00:56:19.540 abiding the law. And suddenly Jews and Antifa or communists showed up and the police walked away. 0.89

00:56:28.100 They stood by as the, uh, the, the, the commies and the Jews rushed in and physically assaulted them.

00:56:35.260 And then when the nationalists defended themselves, the police came in and arrested them.

00:56:39.300 So it doesn't seem to me as if what occurred is anything particularly new, uh, in American history.

00:56:45.700 No, but it's not new, but it's kind of a fresh lesson for people who are not aware of history.

00:56:55.080 Um, you know, I, I was not an organizer, but I did sit in, um, some of these organizing meetings,

00:57:01.380 um, just mostly to listen. And yeah, I mean, um, there was a certain naivete in the sense that,

00:57:11.280 uh, you know, they were doing everything right. They were communicating with the police like every

00:57:16.900 day, like they were calling them and asking them how things were going to organize and stuff like

00:57:22.040 that. They were, uh, you know, doing, making large efforts to get like a legal permit and maintain that

00:57:29.660 legal permit. And they, they had warned the city months in advance and all that. And, uh, they were

00:57:35.700 confident that everything was going to go well because of that. Now, a lot of people who are more aware of

00:57:41.680 this history, who've read, you know, this time in the world and say, well, that's ridiculous. You don't do that 0.61

00:57:46.560 because, uh, the, the city is against you. The city is Antifa and, uh, Charlesville has basically

00:57:54.000 thought a whole new generation, the practical lessons of what happens when you try to collaborate

00:58:00.940 with the system in order to, you know, get your rights respected. And the answer is that it doesn't

00:58:07.600 work like that. Uh, they're going to betray you. They're only, all the information you're giving them

00:58:13.840 and all the coordination that you do with the government and the police, they're only going

00:58:18.220 to use that information to screw you over better in the end. Um, and that's an important lesson.

00:58:25.260 It's an important lesson, but, uh, you know, we, we at Tradworker, uh, we always come with these

00:58:30.720 shields. Uh, we always come prepared for the worst case scenario. Uh, but you know, the counter

00:58:38.280 argument to that was like in Pikeville, in Harrisburg, um, generally on the East coast,

00:58:43.840 up until Charlottesville, uh, you know, in Pikeville, we came with shields, we came armed,

00:58:49.720 we came ready to fight and we actually practiced drills and stuff before Pikeville. But as it turned

00:58:55.160 out, you could have easily worn like flip-flops and a Bermuda shirt without any weaponry at all.

00:59:01.220 Um, and brought your baby stroller, uh, because the police had it on lockdown, uh, same way in

00:59:06.140 Harrisburg. Um, so you, you never really know, but you've always got to, uh, to both your, uh,

00:59:12.340 gentlemen, we certainly can't trust, uh, we, we cannot trust the state to do its basic job

00:59:20.600 of maintaining order and following its own rules and laws. It can and will pull, pull it

00:59:26.840 out from under you. And at all times we have to, uh, be prepared, um, both that principle

00:59:33.180 and pragmatics. We have to be prepared to defend our own turf.

00:59:37.480 It depends on the city. Yeah. Yeah. The, the, the, the problem was Charlottesville,

00:59:43.040 the Jew mayor is an outspoken antifa, right? So the, the Charlottesville PD is going to protect 0.70

00:59:52.280 your rights. Uh, that's about as likely as pigs flying. And as we saw with those Keystone cops, 1.00

00:59:58.860 they can't even fly a helicopter. So pigs don't fly. You know, this is the, the, the real story 0.74

01:00:05.080 of Charlottesville that, um, you, you have to, you have to always control. I mean, I, I was going

01:00:11.960 to say before about, uh, in my last podcast, I talk a lot about the German American Bund in the 1930s.

01:00:19.360 They did everything by the book. They were not an espionage organization. They were not, uh,

01:00:25.420 Hitler made sure that there was always a degree of separation between him and the Bund.

01:00:29.580 And yet we had the Jewish judge, Pearl Stein of New York who knew Fiorello LaGuardia, who's half

01:00:39.600 Jewish, the mayor of New York, who on top of that knew Rabbi Wise, the most, one of the most powerful

01:00:45.280 Jews in the world at the time, he founded the world Jewish Congress, the NAACP. This is like a, a mega

01:00:51.120 kike, right? So all of these guys, uh, they summoned Meyer Lansky, the number one criminal in America at 1.00

01:01:01.280 the time. And they coordinated with him. They coordinated whenever the Bund would have an event,

01:01:07.140 all of these Jews would get together and coordinate for Meyer Lansky and his mafia guys to attack the 1.00

01:01:14.220 legally permitted conference or rally or event. And they did this until they were able to get

01:01:21.680 enough clout in the government through Samuel Dickstein and his Dickstein committee to strip

01:01:28.480 the leader of the German American Bund of his citizenship, put him in a concentration camp and

01:01:33.920 then deport him to Germany. So this is how it works. Jews, uh, do not care about breaking the law. 0.92

01:01:40.780 They don't care about any ethical concerns and they really don't care about your first amendment

01:01:46.620 rights. I mean, they'll wipe their balls with that. So, uh, the, the, the main story here is that 0.99

01:01:52.800 you got to take it on a case by case basis. And like both of you guys said, always be prepared for

01:01:58.940 things to go bad. Yeah. I mean, the point is the more hostile the city is and the more time you give

01:02:08.740 them to prepare for words, like the more forewarning you give them, the less likely it is that, uh,

01:02:14.860 things are going to go smoothly. Um, in, in, uh, England national action learned this lesson

01:02:22.360 and basically stopped giving warnings or legitimate warnings to the government that they were doing

01:02:27.960 protests. And they saw that when they stopped warning people, uh, Antifa didn't show up because,

01:02:36.360 uh, like the, the government was, uh, obviously sending like they were, they were busting Antifa

01:02:42.340 in to, uh, attack it. Yeah. I need the battle of Liverpool. Let's not forget. I was going to say

01:02:48.800 the battle of the last thing before we change the topic. Don't, don't forget that there was already

01:02:53.220 a Charlottesville rally months before that was at the statue, including a torch rally. It was a hundred

01:02:59.400 percent peaceful, no problems, nothing. And yes, it's like Zeger says it was unannounced. So there was

01:03:06.460 no problems. So it's obvious that it's not the nationalists who are the ones causing the problems.

01:03:13.220 Absolutely. Joining us on the podcast. Now we also have doc mayhem who was on the ground in

01:03:18.940 Charlottesville doc. Welcome to the program. No, we're pleased to have you back on. We're just nearing

01:03:24.840 the end of our first hour discussing this, uh, the planning, uh, and the actual event itself.

01:03:31.100 And then after we come back from the break, we're going to get into the fallout and the, uh, the

01:03:34.980 analysis of our current situation back to what we were discussing with national action. Yet the

01:03:39.300 battle of Liverpool, which is an excellent, excellent propaganda video, um, is proof of this

01:03:46.020 concept. And so for those of you who are not familiar with what national action did is, you know,

01:03:50.380 Liverpool is, was inside is one of the biggest leftist cities in, uh, in England. And so national

01:03:55.960 action, they went to protest in the, in the center of the city and they gave false warnings to both

01:04:01.900 Antifa and the police as to where they were going to be and sent distraction parties to different

01:04:06.660 parts of the city at different times of the day in order to confuse people because they knew what

01:04:11.520 would happen in Charlottesville would happen in Liverpool if they didn't use these tactics.

01:04:15.560 And so what this meant was that by the time NA showed up at, uh, the site of the protest,

01:04:22.220 the police had already showed up and had formed a corded line to separate them from the Antifa,

01:04:27.580 which they never would have done if they hadn't confused the Antifa and led them away.

01:04:31.740 And so this sort of, um, innovative technique, this is actually one of the many legitimate teachings

01:04:37.300 of James Mason's, um, siege, which is don't warn your enemies when you are going to demonstrate.

01:04:45.560 All right. The only issue with that one is, um, you do have to get permits and the like,

01:04:50.760 so that that's a little bit of a problem, but not technically. No, uh, the first amendment does

01:04:57.080 allow you to protest without a permit. Yeah. But then you get a felony. Uh, if, if a fight breaks

01:05:04.320 out, then they, they, uh, the stare decisis is that we lose. And, uh, that, that's, that's kind of

01:05:10.940 what happened too. Yeah. The other thing to worry about too, is if you have weapons and like in

01:05:15.840 Virginia, this is why our, uh, security guy, uncle Shuffy straight up said, don't bring, you know,

01:05:21.200 didn't carry no weapons. Cause when a state of emergency is declared, anyone carrying a weapon

01:05:26.440 is automatically committing a felony and will be arrested as such by those worthless pigs. So, 0.99

01:05:33.260 yeah, not, not just that, but we also have to be careful to not make the rally, the, uh, end,

01:05:41.680 you know, the rallies are a means to an end, not the end. Uh, in the case of national action,

01:05:46.660 they could get a few hundred people out. So in those cases, when you're outnumbered like 200 to 5,000,

01:05:53.260 that might be important, at least until you build up your profile. But at Charlottesville,

01:05:58.060 we had all about even numbers with the Antifa. So we could actually hold the park. We could

01:06:04.500 actually, at least theoretically do our rally. The whole point of the demonstrations is to show

01:06:11.140 that you're willing to go out and you can hold public space. If you're playing all these tricks

01:06:16.360 and, and, and all these, uh, little things, these whack-a-mole type of games, you know, what if

01:06:21.340 someone that isn't, you know, after you get to a certain point, after a thousand people, there's going

01:06:26.580 to be randoms that want to show up. And, you know, there's a whole slew of issues that come

01:06:32.200 up with that. The rallies are a means to an end. The rallies are how we fight for our space,

01:06:38.580 how we fight to hold ground so that you can be us in public. Because right now, the power of the

01:06:45.020 system, the reason we don't have hate speech laws in America is because the system depends on the

01:06:50.640 communist paramilitary groups to forbid us of having the space, the no platform. So if we can

01:06:57.860 hold the space and make it okay to be us and speak our minds in public, many, many, many more people

01:07:04.680 will join and the system is going to have to go to the next level and come up with something else.

01:07:10.360 Oh, definitely. You couldn't, you couldn't have like national action type tactics with a rally like

01:07:16.920 Charlottesville. I mean, that's not what I was trying to imply. Oh, no, certainly not. Neither was I.

01:07:21.240 Obviously for a large rally, you have to get a permit and warn people months in advance and all of that.

01:07:27.700 I'm just saying that in the future, we might see that, um, individual groups who are tightly, uh,

01:07:34.740 organized can use these tactics and avoid conflict altogether and avoid, you know, the state meddling

01:07:42.340 in their, uh, events basically. Yeah. After, after Chicago, uh, that incident where, uh, that boy

01:07:48.960 was, uh, kidnapped by the, uh, you know, uh, gentleman of color and tortured for several hours on live 0.77

01:07:55.200 stream. Uh, we, we had a, a very well organized, uh, flash protest where about 20 of us descended on

01:08:03.640 downtown Chicago, uh, gave a few speeches over the course of about 20 minutes and then climbed in a

01:08:09.320 van and got out of there. And we, you know, we, we successfully delivered a message. There wasn't

01:08:14.460 a time for confrontation really. Uh, you know, we were prepared for confrontation, but I think,

01:08:20.180 uh, in the future, um, you know, as far as I, the, the torchlight rally was an optic optical success.

01:08:27.640 Uh, but I, I don't think it was worth the risk, uh, because if Antifa had shown up in real numbers

01:08:33.960 and a conflict had broken out, uh, I think we would have received even more arrests than we got

01:08:39.620 because that having a permit, uh, gives you a whole lot more leeway in self-defense. Um, because when

01:08:48.200 you, when you don't have a permit, then the guy who's directly up in your face, threatening you,

01:08:52.280 um, is legally on the same standing as you. And we, as nationalists, of course, with lawfare are

01:08:58.400 always on the back foot because we don't have the resources. We don't have the benefit of the doubt.

01:09:02.260 We don't have, you know, we, we don't have the attorneys, uh, the system stacked against us. So

01:09:07.160 we, we need to either make sure we're leaning heavily on our, our, our first amendment, uh, uh,

01:09:14.440 rights there with a, with a permit clutched in our fist, uh, or, or it's a flash, it's a flash

01:09:20.400 demo with very little likelihood of confrontation because confrontation without a permit is very

01:09:26.560 legally dangerous for us. Excellent. So gentlemen, we have in fact come to the end of the first

01:09:33.580 segment of our show. So we're going to take a little break and put on a little light music.

01:09:37.180 And when we return, we will dive right back into things. So to our listeners, stay tuned.

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01:12:34.560 Welcome back to Mysterium Fashies, episode 35, part 2. Thanks for rejoining us today.

01:12:37.760 The black sun rises high. The black sun rises high. The reds are all in bed with the reds. 1.00

01:12:41.760 Show the world how you take refuge in the system. Yeah. Show them how you coward hide. Advocate white genocide.

01:12:49.760 Cops and feds are all in bed with the reds. 0.99

01:12:55.760 Welcome back to Mysterium Fashies, episode 35, part 2. Thanks for rejoining us today.

01:13:03.760 Thanks for rejoining us from the break, listeners. We're going to pick up right where we left off.

01:13:08.080 So, we're getting to the... I don't want to get into the event any further, as I said,

01:13:12.400 but we do need to treat a couple other things. So, the media has been portraying this event as,

01:13:18.000 you know, highly violent, and we know that there are, you know, people on our side certainly who were

01:13:23.680 acid and chemical attacked. And so, I want to give you guys who were there just a couple of

01:13:30.720 minutes just to talk about the nature of the violence and essentially describe our glorious

01:13:37.600 victory over our enemies.

01:13:41.760 Well, I have to say the... there was a contingent of antifas that were extremely violent. They actually

01:13:48.880 took one guy who was a straggler and they caved his head in, an old disabled guy. And of course, 1.00

01:13:55.280 they threw acid in people's faces. We had acid thrown on us. Our arms were burning the whole day

01:14:02.080 for a couple of days, actually. You know, these are sick people. These are sick, rabid savages. 0.98

01:14:09.520 We had also... there was a few blacks that they recruited out of projects or something. I don't 0.99

01:14:15.360 know if they paid them or what, but these blacks were all tough and they were trying to approach 1.00

01:14:21.120 people with sticks and baseball bats and stuff. But, you know, as we saw with DeAndre Harris, 0.58

01:14:27.120 who is now a victim, apparently, this guy went, he hit someone in the head and then got his ass kicked, 0.98

01:14:33.200 and then goes and complains that it was a hate crime. And the Charlottesville cops arrested 0.98

01:14:41.040 two guys in connection with that, even though they were practicing pure self-defense. But I think

01:14:48.000 what was interesting was these blacks, they're so used to white people, especially in Charlottesville, 1.00

01:14:53.360 where all the white people are pussies. They're so used to just white people ceding ground to them, 1.00

01:14:58.640 just being afraid of them, just taking a beating from them. And that day they saw white people that 0.97

01:15:03.840 fight back and you could see the fear in their eyes. It was like a deer caught in the headlights.

01:15:09.600 These blacks, they came all aggressive with baseball bats and they ran away screaming for 1.00

01:15:14.320 their mamas and for auntie. And it was, it was quite interesting, but yes, the violence was entirely 0.94

01:15:20.640 defensive. They use, they threw feces at people. One guy was getting cut and then they would cut him

01:15:28.240 with a knife and then someone would throw feces, sewage at him, you know, to get him sick. You know,

01:15:34.000 these are, these are, this is the type of stuff fags and Jews and, and all these blacks and stuff 1.00

01:15:38.160 there were doing that did not get through the Jude impressa because they have a narrative to spin. 0.99

01:15:48.000 Yeah. I mean, it was pretty disgusting. I mean, I, um, I didn't see much of it myself. Uh,

01:15:54.400 you know, I saw like some of the, um, fighting at the torchlight rally, but, uh, the next day I was,

01:16:02.000 uh, like I said, I kind of, um, left and went to the other park at once the police, uh, told us to disperse.

01:16:11.400 Um, but, uh, one of my guys did get hit with a bat and he got his arm hurt because of that. And, um,

01:16:18.400 uh, you know, some of them, uh, while, while the rally was going on, you know, you could see like

01:16:24.820 every couple of seconds bottles being thrown from the Antifa side towards our side. And, you know,

01:16:30.400 I've seen plenty of people getting, uh, uh, maced and stuff like that. So even like before the actual,

01:16:36.940 uh, big confrontation later on, uh, there was plenty of aggression going on.

01:16:42.680 Go, uh, parrot, would you like to, um, add your perspective?

01:16:50.460 Uh, it was, uh, definitely, uh, intense. I, I spent, uh, all of my time sort of, uh, going, uh,

01:16:59.300 outside the shield wall, uh, finding, finding our fighters who were either down or pepper sprayed

01:17:05.580 and pulling them back into the shield wall to the medics. I didn't actually end up throwing a single

01:17:10.860 punch. Uh, I, I spent a tremendous amount of time in the middle of the fight, uh, because I was

01:17:15.720 getting guys, uh, you know, I, I, I'm not much of a fighter or brawler, but I thought, you know,

01:17:21.600 where I could add value here is, you know, going and getting those guys, getting them, you know,

01:17:26.800 recovered. And, you know, what was really incredible is we'd have guys just absolutely

01:17:30.960 pepper sprayed right in the face, uh, run back. Uh, we had some excellent medics, uh, there from

01:17:36.660 several organizations, uh, clean them up. And those guys would then, you know, uh, take a minute

01:17:42.400 to recover and then dive right back out into the fight. It was, it was really heartening and

01:17:47.920 incredible. And just to see that kind of, you know, cause it was very easy to avoid the fight

01:17:53.920 if you wanted to, but we had so many young men and including some old men like, you know, Dr. Hill

01:17:58.520 and, uh, Michael Tubbs from the League of the South, uh, who were older and they were all just,

01:18:04.040 uh, you know, had that courage on display. I don't think the Antifa was prepared for,

01:18:09.620 you know, our, our energy level there at all.

01:18:14.700 All right. And mayhem, you were in fact, one of the medics on the ground. Is that true?

01:18:20.260 Yeah. You know, mainly because, um, you know, I've done EMT school and, uh, I was like, well,

01:18:26.840 shit. Okay. Guess I'm doing medic now because I ended up, someone abandoned some first aid kits 0.99

01:18:31.980 in their hurry to get the fuck out. And I'm like, well, shit, I'm going to pick these up. 0.98

01:18:35.920 Maybe I can do, and sure as shit. One of the, the first aid kit, one of them had a, uh, what do 0.99

01:18:42.660 you call it? A pepper spray decontaminant in it? Well, guess what I was doing the whole time

01:18:49.240 because, uh, everyone was getting pepper sprayed left and right. And I had the thing to make it go

01:18:54.680 away. So I was going, Oh, Hey, you got pepper spread here. Spray. Uh, had some bandages too. And I

01:19:00.100 was helping out the main paramedic, uh, who was with me at the time. I forgot who, what, what his

01:19:06.420 screen, I'm not going to dox him. So I don't, I forgot his screen name. Um, some of the, it was

01:19:12.300 basically some guys got scrapes and cuts. I'm going to get stitches. Could have been worse.

01:19:18.820 The, the medics did an amazing job at, but one thing I would criticize them is that they were

01:19:23.600 actually, there was a lot of journalists that were running back, you know, for all the big,

01:19:29.840 bad, evil, neo-Nazis, the journalists there were running back into our side of the park

01:19:36.440 to get help. And there was all these journalists that had pepper spray in their eyes and they got 0.97

01:19:41.180 hurt and stuff. And our medics were treating them. Do you think any of these journalists,

01:19:46.460 like, do you think any of these journalists went out and said, Oh, well, you know, the Nazis,

01:19:50.200 they actually helped us. They actually were very nice. And they, they, they weren't the

01:19:54.320 violent ones. They, they actually helped with the pepper spray and they helped the medics

01:19:58.680 and stuff. No, they didn't say anything. So next time, fuck them. Tell them, go get it

01:20:03.820 from your Antifa friends. Yeah. We should have said that in the first place. The minute we

01:20:07.120 found, wait, you're a journalist. No, no, no. Fuck you. Get the fuck out of here. Go get

01:20:11.300 help from your auntie. Throw them to the Antifas. Throw them to the Antifas. Go get help 1.00

01:20:15.040 from Antifa, you journalist scum. Remember, journalists are enemies, period. And seriously, 1.00

01:20:20.200 we need to just, I can't wait for the day of reckoning to come in when we can start

01:20:25.540 hanging them from lampposts. Um, I forgot who said it, but they said America will never

01:20:30.120 be free until the New York times building is a funeral pyre and every journalist and 0.98

01:20:36.640 every journalist is put against a wall to be fucking shot that that's only then will 0.99

01:20:43.040 America be free. Sounds like journalists are Antifa. Yeah, there's no meaningful difference 1.00

01:20:48.980 between them. Like one of my guys, once we came back, I mean, we got, um, you know,

01:20:54.320 doxed by Antifa and, um, like the newspapers plastered our faces all over local and national

01:21:04.060 news, basically. And one of our guys against our better judgment, uh, did some interviews

01:21:11.500 and like, basically I told him like, look, don't do interviews. These people are horrible,

01:21:18.680 but if you do, I mean, just troll them, don't tell them anything serious. And so that's what 0.95

01:21:24.640 he did. And he said like, Oh, um, Oh, I went there, you know, just for the lulls. I wasn't,

01:21:32.300 uh, a neo-Nazi or whatever. So the, um, the headline was, you know, this guy with his real

01:21:40.740 name when they're taught, it was a very funny that, um, you know, the bitch got run over. 1.00

01:21:48.120 So like, wow. So they toasted it completely with his like real name and face and everything. 0.96

01:21:56.160 So this is literally Antifa. Yeah. And did you, did you not only that, uh, did, did it,

01:22:02.820 did you hit on the fact that Heifer Hayer wasn't even hit by a car? She died of a heart attack.

01:22:08.540 No, we were going to hit that in a minute, but we might as well say it.

01:22:10.820 We learned that now, but back then it wasn't known. Yeah. Yeah. That's some good shit.

01:22:17.060 Fucking and stuff. Don't, don't call her by her, her media name. Her real name is Heifer Hayer. 1.00

01:22:22.780 All right. Fuck. Yeah. And don't use her, her okay. Cupid Photoshop picture either. Use 1.00

01:22:29.640 her real picture. Remember that Walmart single mom with a pack of new ports in her fucking 1.00

01:22:35.300 hand. Yeah, dude. Remember Tinder is, is not reality. Okay. Anytime you see a chick on Tinder 1.00

01:22:41.980 subtract like at least two or three points from what she'll be IRL. Oh yeah. Well, in the case

01:22:49.620 of Heifer Hayer, that's more like a nine points, like a negative, her real picture, man, she

01:22:55.880 looks like a walrus and she looks like 10 years older than she actually was. Indeed. So 0.84

01:23:02.080 to those of us who, uh, you know, we're not, are not, uh, familiar with the events, we're

01:23:06.720 finding about this for the first time. This was, this woman was, um, a protester who showed

01:23:11.320 up with Antifa and in the middle of the protest had a heart attack because of her, uh, her 0.99

01:23:16.280 obesity, her shitty lifestyle. And, um, then James Fields who drove his car in self-defense 0.99

01:23:23.460 when he was being attacked by and swarmed by Antifa was accused of murdering her. And

01:23:28.960 in fact, now the president of the United States has condemned this event as a domestic terrorist

01:23:33.280 attack, a fatty who, whose heart gave out. So I guess McDonald's in fact has been declared 0.90

01:23:39.400 a domestic terrorist organization. There you go. Yeah. And so I just, it's important, you

01:23:47.280 know, I don't, most of our people ought to know this, but naturally the, what should be

01:23:54.660 apparent is that the media will twist everything into lies. Right. And I think that what we want

01:24:00.180 to isolate here is what is the purpose of street action? And so from my perspective, it seems

01:24:05.760 like there's two big reasons why you want to get out on the street and demonstrate. One

01:24:09.560 is, as you were discussing before, striker is a physical exercise of power, just like what

01:24:14.340 happened in Germany in the twenties and thirties, where you are literally smashing, uh, your enemy's

01:24:19.820 skulls and wielding, uh, accumulating power for yourself and taking it away from the state

01:24:24.620 and from your enemies. Uh, the second, well, and the first of course, and that allows you

01:24:28.800 to have a space to speak, to demonstrate your power, to claim territory, especially when

01:24:33.400 the state law enforcement and the state, uh, agents of law and order failed to do their

01:24:39.100 job. The second to me, it seems is propaganda, which ties intimately into the first. And so

01:24:45.320 I think that it's, um, a lot of people don't really understand that street demonstrations are,

01:24:52.080 as you were talking, um, striker, a tool to accomplish these ends. So, uh, I want to hear your

01:24:57.900 thoughts on the matter. Yeah. Well, uh, basically what, what the point of these things is, is

01:25:06.100 again, we have to, we listen, the people are with us. Okay. Don't, don't listen to what

01:25:12.660 all the men just mold bugs, neo reactionary homos say. The reality is the average man sympathizes 0.99

01:25:21.820 with us, even if it's just subconsciously. So the, the only real, um, issue is that expressing

01:25:32.040 sympathy with us is something that gets you fired. They take away your ability to feed

01:25:38.860 yourself. They, they harass your entire family, including your, your, even your, your distant

01:25:44.420 aunt will get calls from the, from the Jews and the SPLC. Um, they plaster your face in 1.00

01:25:51.600 the media and they defame your character, assassinate your, your, your, uh, your reputation, make you

01:25:58.040 a pariah. These are all the tactics to, you know, if it wasn't for the fact that the people

01:26:04.180 are with us, they wouldn't need to employ these tactics to preserve their power. So the point

01:26:09.720 of a demonstration, the propaganda victory is that yes, we're going to come out, we're

01:26:17.880 going to do, we're going to say what the hell we want. And if you don't like it, come here 0.63

01:26:21.660 and get your goddamn skull smashed. Because if you come here and try and stop my civil liberties, 1.00

01:26:27.080 I have the right to use my fists in self-defense of my liberties. So this is the important thing

01:26:35.380 to take out of Charlottesville, why it's a victory because, uh, even though people lost their jobs

01:26:42.340 and this and that, the blowback has been a lot less, uh, visceral in the sense that, you know,

01:26:52.040 none of our guys died. No one was too seriously injured. So, you know, we actually came out of that

01:26:58.700 pretty good. And that is something that increases our numbers and actually, believe it or not,

01:27:04.420 will decrease the Antifa numbers because the reason there was 10,000 Antifas at the Boston

01:27:09.120 protest was because they wanted to virtue signal without the risk. Once you bring risk into the

01:27:17.280 equation for communists who come out to censor other people, it will thin their numbers out

01:27:23.440 because they will call Gavin McInnes and they will call the Patriotards and that Indian guy in Boston

01:27:29.500 a Nazi so that they can feel good about themselves and get their virtue rush without having to risk 0.84

01:27:35.980 themselves. But believe it or not, next time we have another Charlottesville with the real thing,

01:27:40.340 they're going to have thinner numbers than ever.

01:27:42.480 Yeah, I think that's, that is correct. And the whipping them time after time after time in every

01:27:50.880 encounter that we've had with them and whipping them badly and unequivocally, especially since you 0.99

01:27:56.780 can go online and see us kicking their asses wholesale is terribly demoralizing because they 0.97

01:28:02.120 know, uh, even if the media is not spreading the messages, uh, they feel the wounds quite literally. 0.97

01:28:08.340 On top of that, um, even Antifa, even Antifa have no choice but to admit that if it weren't for the

01:28:15.500 cops being on their side completely, they would have been destroyed. Oh, shut the fuck. I have a 1.00

01:28:22.160 bunch of puppies. But anyways, I thought you were a puppy murderer mayhem. What are you going to eat 1.00

01:28:30.260 them? You Nazi. Well, uh, I've heard they're quite delicious, but that's more of a Chinese thing 1.00

01:28:36.300 than a Nazi thing. Well, you do a deep fried with hot peppers. But, uh, anyways, we're kind of giving

01:28:43.340 a few away. Anyone want a puppy now? Ah, shit. Made me lose my train of thought. Fuck. Oh yeah. Cause

01:28:50.740 we were talking about the Antifa. They shut up, you assholes. God, I'm turning into, um, fuck old 1.00

01:28:57.500 boy with his cat there. Shit. Uh, freelance autist now. God, but they knew, they knew that 1.00

01:29:04.120 without the cops, they were pretty much fucked. They were dead. And, um, one of the, one of the 1.00

01:29:09.440 good things about Charlottesville, I think it, I think it was actually a defeat. I mean, we kind of

01:29:14.520 got screwed over pretty bad, but we've learned, we've learned all about the optics. We've learned

01:29:18.980 about how to deal with this in the future. This won't happen again. Um, on top of that though,

01:29:24.280 here's the biggest one that nobody's mentioned. We essentially like the summer was like no chimp 0.98

01:29:29.880 outs. There was like, it looks like the summer was like, shit, this is going to be bad for our 0.99

01:29:34.080 narrative. Where's the chimp outs? Sure. Shit. Right after that chimp outs. And now they're 1.00

01:29:38.620 planning riots on November 4th, which I think the best thing we could do now is just lay low

01:29:44.440 and let Antifa be Antifa. I mean, they're going to screw themselves. They're going to screw 0.59

01:29:50.400 themselves because they're going to chimp out now. Right. So that's the biggest one. 1.00

01:29:54.260 Yeah. So I think you, man, you've brought us to an interesting point. So you said that

01:29:57.820 you think Charlottesville was in some ways a defeat. And I know that Stryker, uh, and

01:30:02.900 probably Zyger and Parrot as well would have a different opinion. And so I think that now

01:30:06.840 perhaps is the time to discuss the OQ, the optics question. So we have a number of fairly

01:30:13.640 accomplished propagandists, uh, with us on the panel today. So let's, uh, and Mayhem, 0.99

01:30:20.300 you can feel free to be the voice, uh, supporting this position. What would you guys say to those

01:30:24.660 who would describe Charlottesville as a propaganda failure that the optics portrayed by the media

01:30:30.160 have done more? I didn't say it was a propaganda failure. I'm sorry. I'm not, I'm not, no, no,

01:30:34.500 I'm not saying as arrested, you know, no, no, I'm, uh, I'm speaking as a general posing

01:30:38.900 the question in general to discuss. Um, there are people who, who say that, uh, Charlottesville

01:30:44.340 was a propaganda failure because they say that the optics of the event, uh, projected,

01:30:49.280 you know, a image that was terrifying to normies and that the, you know, the way forward is to

01:30:56.500 essentially show up in, uh, you know, khaki shirts wearing, with only American flags. So Richard

01:31:02.400 Spencer, of course, uh, has vociferously expressed this position. And I'm not saying the appropriation

01:31:07.880 of the American flag as a vehicle for far right nationalism is a bad thing necessarily,

01:31:11.920 but I want to, um, just allow this discussion to take place. So, uh, Parrott, why don't you

01:31:20.040 go ahead first? Um, in my opinion, uh, successful movements in the past have defined themselves

01:31:28.440 as a clean break. And what you're looking at is the application of corporate marketing tactics,

01:31:34.660 uh, uh, of persuasion to what's fundamentally more akin to a religious conversion. You know,

01:31:42.560 a lot of these things about, um, optics and style and manner, uh, if, if you want to try to get

01:31:50.800 somebody switched from one brand of shampoo to another are very critical. But if you're trying

01:31:55.800 to get that man to shave his head altogether and join a revolution, um, then you, you have to use

01:32:02.220 an entirely different toolkit, which does not borrow from these, uh, you know, corporate marketing

01:32:08.880 strategies that we're hearing with like, you know, uh, my, my focus group says the American flag is

01:32:14.740 really popular with the 35 to 55 age bracket. Let's go with that. Um, the most important thing 0.78

01:32:21.940 is consistency. And in my opinion, I mean, everybody's welcome. People are welcome to bring

01:32:26.820 American flags, um, to unity events, but if the unity requires trad worker or, or league of the

01:32:34.200 South, especially, um, to carry an American flag, then we won't be able to attend those unity events,

01:32:42.180 you know, and that's fine. If everybody thinks that's going to be a winning strategy,

01:32:46.060 I wish to politely disagree with that, but strongly disagree with that same time. I, I, I think it's an

01:32:53.380 attempt at being clever and I don't think it will work. And I think we've already with the American 0.87

01:32:58.160 freedom party and the tea party and, you know, the John Birch society, there've been so many attempts

01:33:04.240 to try to trick normies into thinking, uh, that we're just merely an option within the Overton window

01:33:11.340 when we're not. And sooner or later, they're going to find out we're not.

01:33:15.320 You, you realize too, that if we were to go out in the American flag, the Koch brothers and singer

01:33:22.200 and all the big GOP Jews are going to put up a, a rally, they're going to throw tens of millions 0.92

01:33:28.240 of dollars behind a take back our flag rally, where they're going to come out and say,

01:33:33.120 the Nazis don't own our flag. In fact, that might actually have a counterintuitive effect

01:33:39.120 of turning people, patriotards against us because they're going to use that to attack us. They're 1.00

01:33:45.780 going to say, look, the Nazis are trying to steal our flag. Remember the American flag has owners.

01:33:52.200 And they have people, they have media, they have money, they have things like that behind it.

01:33:57.880 So it's about competition. It's better to get a niche market and turn it into a national market

01:34:06.020 than it is to try and compete with Walmart, you know?

01:34:10.200 Well, the way I see it, the American flag, you can't use that exclusively, definitely, because

01:34:20.560 it's a confusing symbol. It's, it doesn't have a clear meaning anymore to everyone.

01:34:27.580 Different people understand what it represents differently. If you, if you use the American flag,

01:34:36.400 it needs to be paired with something else to clarify what it means. Again, because it means

01:34:44.440 different things to different people and different factions are trying to make it represent different

01:34:50.200 things. So one thing that can work, basically what you want, the purpose that we would use

01:34:57.360 the American flag for is merely to say we're on the side of the people. We're not a foreign invading

01:35:04.460 group, basically. That's the purpose. If you just use the American flag, however, I agree 0.65

01:35:11.680 that it's just going to make you look like a patriot art group. Basically, it doesn't give

01:35:16.760 you a clear brand. People won't understand what you stand for. So it could make sense to use

01:35:24.360 50% American flags, but always pair the American flag with another flag, like a movement flag of some

01:35:32.480 sort. So, and we need to clarify that, uh, basically the American flag stands for white people, because a

01:35:40.600 lot of, even, even today, more and more, uh, that's what the American flag is made to stand for by our

01:35:47.620 enemies. Even some of our enemies, uh, they're saying, Oh, you can't bring American flags to football

01:35:53.200 games because it's, you know, it's racist against Mexicans or things like that. So, uh, some people

01:36:00.040 are pushing that meme both on our side and on the enemy side that the American flag stands for white

01:36:04.620 Americans or white America. And if we can push that and combine it with our movement flags, that can be

01:36:12.780 actually a helpful propaganda victory, but not everyone sees it that way. So it has to be

01:36:20.520 clarified in that, uh, in that perspective. If we say, if we, if it's confused and people think that

01:36:27.480 the American flag stands for like the government or like the multicultural modern America or modern

01:36:35.060 American values, that's definitely going to be a failure and it's going to confuse people more than

01:36:41.060 anything else. Uh, I agree with Matt that we don't want to be clever with it. It's not, we're not

01:36:46.700 supposed to trick people into thinking that we're something that we're not. Um, but the American flag

01:36:52.760 can be helpful if we can get it to, to clearly say we're on the side of normal white people.

01:37:01.220 That's basically my, my take on it. So mayhem, what's your take? God damn it, Zeiger, you did it again. 0.94

01:37:07.180 Cause that's pretty much what I was going to suggest, which was, uh, some, I think Andrew Anglin 0.99

01:37:12.140 suggested too, is like half movement flags, half American flags. And the only re and basically we

01:37:17.980 save the swastika until like after we've won because of the baggage attached to it. But, um,

01:37:24.340 the other, the other main thing that we need to push on is, uh, start really hammering. Yeah.

01:37:30.020 The founding fathers are Nazis today. But other than that, yeah, that's pretty much where I was 0.93

01:37:35.540 on my line of thinking was, uh, to try to get all these, um, well, not, not be clever with it, but

01:37:43.000 try to basically let, let these people know that we're, like you said, we're not an,

01:37:48.800 not be portrayed as an invading force here. We're America. We're looking out for our national

01:37:55.520 interest. Cause then from what I've seen, no successful nationalist movement utterly abandons

01:38:01.780 it's the nation's, uh, symbols and heroes. Like one of the things I've been seeing is,

01:38:08.240 uh, the founding fathers, fuck them. They're, they were a bunch of miscegenators who should 1.00

01:38:12.820 have never rebelled. I'm like, no, no, that no, no successful nationalist movement shits on 1.00

01:38:16.800 the symbols and heroes of the nation that they're trying to take back.

01:38:19.740 Yeah. And the, the reason I'm somewhat, like I said, the reason I'm somewhat hopeful that the

01:38:28.300 flag and the founding fathers and all of that can be reappropriated as nationalist symbols,

01:38:33.760 which, uh, they're not really anymore, or at least they're, they've stopped being at a certain

01:38:40.620 point in time. The reason I'm hopeful is that our enemies are helping us in that.

01:38:44.100 The American flag may as well be a rainbow flag for what it actually stands for. But

01:38:48.860 unfortunately, yeah, with antifas who love to just stomp on the American flag, burn it, 1.00

01:38:54.460 shit on it. 1.00

01:38:55.800 Yeah. And BLM and even just normie leftists more and more, they're saying the founding fathers were 1.00

01:39:02.680 Nazis and the American flag is a symbol of, uh, colonialism and oppression and racism. So

01:39:08.600 if I think that's something that we should go along with and say like, yeah, and yeah,

01:39:14.260 the founding fathers were Nazis and yes, it's a symbol of racism and oppression and, uh, it's a

01:39:20.240 symbol of white people. So, and you know, that's what we stand for. And of course we combine it with 0.70

01:39:24.160 our own symbols.

01:39:25.540 My problem with that, I mean, um, like I said, uh, I'm all about like, um, having a sort of a science

01:39:32.200 lab attitude about things where you just let people, uh, try different things. But I don't think

01:39:38.000 that that, like, uh, what, what Stryker was saying, uh, we don't have the platforms, uh, we don't have

01:39:44.600 the arguments, we don't have, uh, the ability to win that argument. I, I, you know, I absolutely

01:39:50.740 agree that the left are trying, you know, there's a huge opportunity there to create a big national

01:39:57.160 debate on, on what the, does the flag stand for, uh, nationalism and white people. And, you know,

01:40:04.180 you, you could definitely achieve, uh, a very exciting debate. But the problem is once you

01:40:09.280 get that fight started, um, you're, you're looking at the entire GOP, um, the entire conservative

01:40:16.860 movement, uh, the vast majority of a lot of people were actually trying to convince then

01:40:21.620 being mobilized to say, no, no, no. American history represents progress towards, uh, becoming,

01:40:28.220 uh, gay, transgender, black people.

01:40:30.020 Yeah, that's exactly what we want. That's, that's, that's the good thing. 0.92

01:40:33.760 Well, why would you want to hold that flag? I mean, I kind of feel bad that I'd be setting

01:40:39.700 the rest of the movement up for that because they'd be going, grabbing the American flag. 0.96

01:40:43.780 And then it's like, oh, well, the flag you're holding actually stands for transgender nigger 1.00

01:40:49.880 queers, you know? 1.00

01:40:50.440 Well, you see, that's, that's what the conservatives say. And the conservatives are fucking losers. 1.00

01:40:55.640 They can't win anything. They always lose all debates with the left. So if, if, if the 1.00

01:41:01.700 left, if they lose that debate, then the flag is gay. 0.76

01:41:05.240 No, they, because the conservatives are saying the opposite. The left is saying that the flag

01:41:10.760 is Nazi and we are going to say the same thing basically. Yeah. It's, it's the American flag 0.50

01:41:15.960 is white people. The left is going to say the American flag is white people. 0.50

01:41:19.060 So that's the point. Conservatives are the B is that damn the left is doing the debate 0.99

01:41:25.400 for us. They're losing the conservative debate for us in that sense. Um, they're, they're 0.99

01:41:31.320 the ones who are trying to turn the flag into representation of tyranny and evil is what is

01:41:37.360 going on. No one cares what conservatives think anymore because conservatives are losers as 1.00

01:41:43.120 I see the cleverness of it. I just, uh, believe it opens up a whole, whole new honeypot where 0.87

01:41:52.460 we're going to have to then protect our branding from multiple sides. Yeah. Well, and I think that

01:41:57.840 there's a broader question to discuss and that I've left that to the end is the, the utility of, uh,

01:42:03.080 America and American identity and American symbolism as a, uh, as a vehicle for, uh, for nationalism,

01:42:09.380 but that's a really, really big can of worms that probably requires its own episode. So yeah,

01:42:15.260 what I wanted to, I think that we've, we've kind of completed what, uh, we set out to do with the

01:42:20.700 background. So now let's discuss the fallout. So we're sitting here about a month, um, from when

01:42:26.240 the event happened, it's the 16th of September today. And what we have seen in a, this kind of

01:42:33.240 post Charlottesville world that we've maneuvered ourselves into is, uh, you know, unprecedented

01:42:38.820 intensity of censorship, uh, and the actual destruction of the internet as an apparatus

01:42:45.180 of free speech as a direct result of this rally. And so it seems to me that all of these actions

01:42:52.040 are simple, that the regime is panicking, right? And this is why they are lashing out and behaving

01:42:57.960 in these, um, you know, so overtly communistic, Bolshevistic ways.

01:43:03.640 And so I guess the question, sorry, please go ahead. Yeah. Well, I think what happens is that,

01:43:13.660 you know, that means we hit the target, you know, like in the video game, you got the,

01:43:18.000 the, the boss or whatever, and he's impossible to hit until he shows a vulnerability. And then you hit

01:43:24.040 Judah right in his supple white belly. And you hear the groans and the moans, 0.94

01:43:31.560 and you see it acting, uh, wailing its arms around, flailing around, knocking around every,

01:43:39.040 knocking down everything in its path without any discrimination. I mean, you got regular

01:43:44.740 conservatives. You even got Jews that criticize Islam like that, uh, Jihad watch website, getting 0.59

01:43:52.220 their PayPal shut down. I mean, this is something that is so, um, you see what, when, when you,

01:43:58.580 when you strike the enemy, the enemy starts making mistakes. So this is why Charlottesville is a

01:44:05.200 success because the system is overreacting. They're biting off more than they can chew.

01:44:10.840 And they're going to end up breaking teeth in the process. The media is discrediting it,

01:44:16.760 discrediting itself. And it's going to get worse as the facts from the Heather Heyer case come out.

01:44:22.120 Um, you got the president being forced to attack his own voters. That's going to come back to bite

01:44:29.180 him in the ass. You got the, uh, the, the registrars showing to the world that free speech is a lie. 1.00

01:44:36.380 So all of these institutions, what was left of their credibility is now dissipating because of

01:44:44.340 their desperation after Charlottesville. They are in fear that a revolution is on the brink of coming.

01:44:53.600 You know, I tend to agree with that perspective. Go ahead, Zagat. 1.00

01:44:57.080 No, no. Um, I was just saying that I do, I agree with that basically. Um, there, there,

01:45:03.540 there's a widespread panic. And I think this, um, these results show that, uh, we're not dealing

01:45:13.140 with an organized, intelligent, uh, strategical response, but panic, uh, it's decentralized.

01:45:22.940 Individual actors are acting irrationally and they're not, um, gauging the full consequences of

01:45:30.780 what they're doing. And this is good. Um, we want them on the defensive. We want them panicking

01:45:36.200 because as a striker said, that's when they start making mistakes. And that's where we start getting

01:45:43.340 the initiative and the possibility to strike back. Now, of course, the problem right now is that

01:45:48.000 some of our weapons have been taken away from us or been rendered slightly less powerful because of

01:45:55.320 all that censorship. But, um, that, that's only a temporary setback. We're, I think we're all in

01:46:03.520 the process of hardening ourselves and finding better ways to deal with future censorship.

01:46:10.140 And ultimately it's going to make us a lot stronger because it's going to make us invulnerable or at

01:46:14.560 least a lot more resilient against future censorship efforts. Once we have like maybe our own registrars

01:46:21.800 or once we have our own systems, once everyone, uh, once like tour or, uh, censorship free platforms

01:46:28.960 are stronger, then that's going to make us a lot more resilient in general.

01:46:34.240 One, one other thing too, is that the most important thing to take from this is that we're,

01:46:38.500 we're making the Jew come out from behind the curtain. He's getting so panicky that he can't 1.00

01:46:43.840 afford to be passive and less satiric. He's being forced out into the street and that's where we have

01:46:48.880 our power because frankly, we have more people than them. There's only, there's only 12 million

01:46:53.920 Jews in the world. We have millions of people, way more superior numbers. So when we bring the Jew 1.00

01:47:00.480 out into the open for a full confrontation, that's when we have the advantage because they have the

01:47:07.720 advantage of people not even knowing they're in power. But if they show the world, even the dumbest to 0.98

01:47:14.160 the smartest, that they're the ones that are behind it all. They're the ones that run Google 0.97

01:47:18.820 and Facebook and they're the ones that run the New York times and the, uh, the, the, the U S treasury.

01:47:26.180 Once they see that, then people will be more awakened by this as well.

01:47:30.820 Harit, you, um, wrote a, uh, a blog post for Trad Worker on power dynamics strategy in Charlottesville,

01:47:40.320 which I included in the show notes because I think it's, it's fairly pertinent and, and talks

01:47:44.840 about the subject here, uh, in question. So why don't you go ahead and, and make your comments and

01:47:50.320 perhaps even present the arguments that you lay out in that, uh, blog post?

01:47:54.200 Uh, the, the, the blog post was in response to this, uh, think piece, which, uh, declared

01:48:01.680 Charlottesville a failure, uh, because of negative optics. And it, it, uh, played on a lot of the,

01:48:10.260 uh, canards coming out of Charlottesville, like saying, you know, uh, we had these, uh, clan guys

01:48:16.580 there, uh, not a single clan robe was at Charlottesville. Um, and you know, they actually used

01:48:22.380 footage from the clan rally a month before in a lot of the coverage talking about the

01:48:27.260 Unite the Right event, pretending that we showed up in clan robes. Uh, there's also the, the

01:48:32.960 thing about, you know, we've got to stop bringing swastikas to the rally. Well, what actually

01:48:36.920 happened was out of the several hundred people who attended one unaffiliated guy who was not

01:48:43.500 with any group, one single guy, and he might've been a fed by the way, he may have been, I've,

01:48:50.220 I've heard, I've heard both ways. I don't know, but what I do know is that certainly,

01:48:54.320 uh, we, we had higher than 99% compliance on optics. And yet this guy's insisting that we

01:49:03.040 came off scary. And with, with that response is that when you're, when you're fighting an

01:49:09.820 enemy like this, um, you know, to, to borrow from strikers thing about hitting, you know,

01:49:14.920 hitting the final boss, uh, in ballistics, sometimes you want to aim a little above the

01:49:19.420 target. Like, um, uh, you know, you need to lead the target to hit it. Uh, and, uh, we

01:49:26.740 need to be preparing for when people are scared, uh, for when this, uh, for when these problems

01:49:33.560 escalate and, you know, we need rough men and this idea that we can all, uh, be street fighting

01:49:42.240 and have positive media and have, uh, non-threatening optics is, is just unrealistic.

01:49:51.480 I mean, I'm, I'm all for, you know, trying to improve our optics as much as possible, but

01:49:56.360 when you put optics over solidarity, optics over principle, uh, then you, you, you start

01:50:03.440 to corrupt your movement. But the, the, the article as a whole, um, this guy was really

01:50:08.820 talking about, you know, uh, how, how we need to, how we need to qualify ourselves to domestic

01:50:14.620 power elites and find wealthy people, uh, who will be our benefactors. And, um, that, that

01:50:24.620 strategy of trying to persuade people to think that we're just another harmless alternative

01:50:30.500 within a healthy, normal way of, uh, politics and then try to try to infiltrate and work

01:50:38.660 with the existing elites. It is just a profoundly, uh, bad strategy. What you have every single

01:50:45.560 time. I mean, I encourage anybody else who wants to go try it, try it, but what, what's

01:50:50.280 happened to the John Birch society and everybody else is they end up in this, uh, hilarious

01:50:54.880 situation where they're screaming that they're not pro white and they're screaming that they

01:51:01.420 love Jews. And yet they're still locked out of power because they're not anti white and

01:51:08.200 pro Jewish enough. But, you know, it's, it's the worst of all possible worlds is where you 1.00

01:51:13.560 land with that optics driven, uh, strategy and psychology. And what we need is a, is a fundamental

01:51:20.340 lack of cleverness, uh, and just a simple advocacy for our people and fighting off those who oppose

01:51:26.200 our people, uh, you know, with, with an eye towards hygiene and, uh, you know, optics, but

01:51:31.460 that not being a principle, you know, that we just need to show up in the right costume and

01:51:35.860 we'll win the competition attitude. What's this obsession with conservatives? I mean, not even

01:51:41.860 conservatives, but what's this obsession with looking non-threatening? Does looking non-threatening

01:51:46.240 get you respect? Does it get you a pussy? Does it get you a job? I mean, what, what, what, why would 1.00

01:51:51.900 this, if this doesn't work in any other facet of life, why would it work in a life or death national

01:51:57.540 struggle? That's what I don't get. Yeah, definitely. I mean, this, this notion that looking weak is good

01:52:06.060 optics is an absurdity. It's, it's definitely a part of the conservative mindsets where, oh, uh, if we look

01:52:13.300 like weak, crippled victims, then the people will have sympathy. Like, uh, it's basically that whole,

01:52:20.260 um, you know, getting that pity vote, that pity, sympathy, that, uh, power through, uh, looking 0.89

01:52:27.060 pathetic. Well, no, that, it definitely doesn't work that way. Uh, yeah, I mean, I'm just going to 0.65

01:52:33.040 look threatening. We just not threatening to white people, threatening to our enemies. Uh, you know,

01:52:39.760 looking threatening is a two-edged sword. If you look threatening, then the people who like you

01:52:45.580 will feel safe, uh, because of you. Because you look threatening. Whereas people who don't like you

01:52:52.240 will feel threatened. And that's exactly what you want. You want enemies to feel threatened, and you

01:52:56.840 want, uh, the people you represent and that you fight for to feel like if you're in charge, they would

01:53:04.720 be safe. Because you're strong, and you're, uh, you know, you're capable. I'm just going to quote,

01:53:10.600 uh, Commander Rockwell here from Inhock, Sidney Vinces. It is the part of the Jews to be sneaky 1.00

01:53:16.700 and sly. The genius of our people has ever been joyous strength, robust forcefulness, directness, 0.95

01:53:23.520 manly courage, and flaming heroism. With the Jews, with their economic terrorism, jails, bullies, 1.00

01:53:30.400 and hangmen, scare the white man into laying down his cruddle, and goad him into trying to 1.00

01:53:35.960 out-sneak Jewish tyranny. The Jews have completely emasculated the once strong white man and doomed 1.00

01:53:42.040 him to dishonor and defeat. The white man can never win by sneaking. Yeah, I mean, if we're talking 0.99

01:53:50.360 about optics, I think the optics that we want is not the, um, harmless optic, but rather the superhero

01:53:57.840 optic, um, in a sense, like we want to look, uh, larger than life. We want to look maybe colorful

01:54:06.760 or strong or basically we want to give out the same vibe as if, uh, you had an army of, uh, supermen

01:54:15.540 fighting against the Antifa. Whereas the Antifa, they look, they look threatening in a sense,

01:54:22.220 but they also look like misfits. So the, the, what we want is that when the media portray us,

01:54:30.600 uh, fighting against Antifa, we want everyone to see clearly, um, you know, clean cut people,

01:54:38.460 but also like probably wearing, uh, maybe colorful clothes or clothes that make us look strong and

01:54:47.500 kind of, uh, very different. We want to look different and strong compared with the Antifa.

01:54:52.380 If there's any optic to have, it's that, um, I'm not at all sold on the kind of khakis and, um,

01:55:01.680 polo shirts aesthetic. I, I think the khakis and polos can work. Um, and I think, you know,

01:55:09.380 I mean, the league of the South, uh, uh, has, has that, uh, the, I, I, I identity Europa folks have

01:55:16.560 that. And I think with the thing about optics is it's a shadow, it's a shadow of the actual.

01:55:25.220 And what you had was these people who objectively speaking, you look at that outfit before,

01:55:31.500 before Charlottesville and you're like, well, that outfit looks kind of like soft and corporate,

01:55:36.120 right? Well, after Charlottesville, like people walking down the street in khakis and a white

01:55:41.220 polo are now intimidating to minorities. Right. Uh, and there's been several articles about that. 1.00

01:55:46.700 Like, you know, I saw some, you know, just some, some, some dorky cubicle guy happened to be wearing

01:55:51.540 that outfit and like all these minorities were nervous. So now they're going to have to change 1.00

01:55:55.660 outfits. Like that's how powerful, you know, the, the, the true, because, you know, you had people

01:56:02.940 from the league of the South and you had people from identity Europa fighting and you had them,

01:56:07.880 you know, winning. So, uh, and then that's projected onto the uniform. I've, I've joked,

01:56:13.400 I want to go, you know, I, I, I wish I'm not going to let me, uh, but what I'd like is to have us all

01:56:19.160 wear like, uh, you know, giant dildo costumes, but go out there and win. And then that costume would

01:56:24.140 then be seen as powerful and noble. I, you know, it's true. Uh, I guess you're, you're right in that

01:56:30.840 sense. Uh, when someone's cool, whatever he's wearing is cool. Basically, uh, clothes don't

01:56:37.620 have inherent, uh, power. Well, that's not entirely true. I think, uh, fit is, uh, important

01:56:47.080 in the sense that some things are objectively good looking and objectively bad looking and

01:56:52.360 having a well tailored and like that give you a good silhouette. That's important. And, uh,

01:56:58.800 maybe one of the problems with the khakis and polo is that a lot of people have like

01:57:03.420 loose fitting stuff that doesn't make them look athletic, even if they, they are. So that might

01:57:08.540 be something to look into. Well, and not to, not to counter signal here, but I think we have an

01:57:14.480 example we can actually talk about without anybody getting upset. Um, and you know, I'm actually,

01:57:19.520 you know, friends with a lot of people who are in clans and whatever. I'm not counter signaling

01:57:23.500 the clan as a whole, but the clan robe is a good example, in my opinion, of a bad costume

01:57:28.040 to wear for several reasons. You know, it's, it's anachronistic. It has not been associated

01:57:33.560 with success in anybody's waking lifetime. Um, and you know, there's, there's a lot of negative

01:57:41.180 historical baggage that that clan robe represents. I mean, in theory, I guess you could fight through

01:57:46.960 that, but you know, a lot of the, uh, a lot of the more dynamic clan groups, what they've done

01:57:52.500 is they use that robe in their, in their secret ceremony. And then they have a more subdued,

01:57:59.520 sensible, contemporary outfit that they actually wear in public, uh, for, for events and stuff.

01:58:04.480 It's kind of funny. The anti-clan laws are, have now been flipped upside down and are now anti-antifa

01:58:10.520 laws. And all the clansmen, uh, are now dressing up, uh, oftentimes in like black work shirts,

01:58:16.780 similar to what trad worker wore. Um, and these other more, uh, um, um, tasteful, you know, I think

01:58:24.340 in the American context, we're just not like 1930s Germany. There's more of a military culture.

01:58:30.260 There's more of a boy scout culture. A lot of the uniforms that they wore at that time were

01:58:34.340 appropriate in our context, which are totally inappropriate today. So I, that's, that's my

01:58:39.400 own private opinion on that. Yeah. And I think that this is sort of the, the answer to the question

01:58:44.580 in general of, of, um, like the swastika and uniforms and so on. We never, we, we should

01:58:50.580 never be afraid of the swastika or of Nazism because we are in fact national socialists.

01:58:56.600 And so our enemies are going to, to use that, uh, no matter what. And the swastika has tremendous 0.79

01:59:01.560 power. Hello? Yeah. Yeah. Everything's fine. Yeah. And so the, the swastika has tremendous, 0.83

01:59:08.960 uh, value as a tool to scare Jews, which is in a sense what that flag was designed to

01:59:14.120 do. But obviously that doesn't mean anything. I mean, the swastika is not, uh, a symbol of

01:59:19.120 white people in North America. Historically speaking, it just wasn't part of our culture

01:59:24.000 and it's not, um, it's, it's artificial, it's shoehorned. And just, just as dressing up

01:59:29.740 at the political, in the uniform of a dead 1930s political party doesn't have any relevance

01:59:34.960 to modern, uh, North American national socialism. Well, what a lot of people don't know is the

01:59:40.820 NSM has actually, uh, uh, moved from the swastika towards, uh, towards, towards the Odell

01:59:46.800 room as a way of also acknowledging that we, we need to have symbols that represent here

01:59:51.940 and now, you know, while, while, while still respecting, you know, NSDAP Germany. Absolutely.

01:59:57.500 Well, the important thing about the national socialists was, well, let's look at it in their

02:00:02.860 context. National socialism was based on Italian fascism. Uh, Hitler's Beer Hall Putsch was modeled

02:00:11.900 on the March on Rome, right? But you didn't see the national socialists using the fascis in their

02:00:21.680 symbology. They took the blueprint that Mussolini came up with for defeating both Bolshevism and 0.63

02:00:30.040 capitalism. And they applied it to the German context and they tapped into, because Germany

02:00:37.940 was the scientific pinnacle of the world. They had a more advanced, uh, uh, scientific engineering

02:00:44.540 and, uh, system like that. And they added the racial aspect. So, um, you know, we can learn from

02:00:51.520 them themselves. The important thing about national socialism is to take the lessons, the successful

02:00:58.700 experiment, but that doesn't necessarily mean you have to take all the aesthetics and all

02:01:04.840 the, uh, superficial stuff. Because that, a lot of the times people take that superficial

02:01:10.220 stuff, but don't know anything about the ideology. So that's the important thing.

02:01:16.600 Yeah. I mean, it's important to have a scientific mindset when we approach all of these things.

02:01:22.020 Um, trying to impose things without thinking about it or without experimenting is not the way to go.

02:01:31.240 I mean, if you believe in truth and reality, then you, you, you understand that you have to adapt

02:01:40.300 yourself to circumstances. Because, uh, if you just, uh, you're encrusted in preconceived notions,

02:01:47.620 then that's the opposite of national socialism. That's like, uh, ideological thinking like

02:01:53.220 Marxists. So yeah, the realm of propaganda is a scientific subject that is a, that is also subject

02:02:02.080 to experimentation and laws and rules. And in some circumstances, you, there's certain symbols

02:02:10.180 or certain, uh, approaches that are going to just work better than others. And you have to, uh, adapt to

02:02:15.740 it. Now, I'm not saying that you can't use the swastika. I'm saying the swastika and any other 0.93

02:02:22.380 thing is going to have specific effects. And in some circumstances, you want to use those effects.

02:02:27.980 Like if you want to shock people, if you want to create a stir and things like that, but that's not

02:02:34.060 always what you want to do. Sometimes you, if you, you trying to create a kind of a populist local

02:02:40.980 movement, uh, just randomly shocking people without giving them a clear idea of what you stand for

02:02:47.060 might not be the right tool for the job. So again, in propaganda, you have to have a diverse array of

02:02:54.880 tools and understand the circumstances and use the right tools for the situation. 1.00

02:03:02.500 Shit. I was just going to say, um, this kind of goes back to a lot of PUA 101 there too. 0.96

02:03:08.980 So never, never let them pigeonhole you into just one thing. Um, and, and of course, a breaker

02:03:17.780 broke in my thing. That's why I'm now completely out of the loop. And my connection went down. So

02:03:24.620 hi guys. Welcome back. No, and I think that you're correct, Ziger. And this is a discussion that I had

02:03:29.300 with Nat recently. And it's about the ideological toolbox is that, you know, national socialism offers

02:03:34.580 us an ordered worldview that we can think rationally about, you know, how we can achieve our goals. And

02:03:41.240 so street demonstrations and propaganda and symbology and all of this, semiotics, these are

02:03:46.300 tools in our box to accomplish our goals, which is to build up our own power and to decrease the power

02:03:52.840 of our enemies. And I think that it's incredibly, incredibly important that we don't fetishize the

02:03:58.100 hammer or the screwdriver or the sword, because they're means to an end, not the action or the

02:04:03.840 means or the force, the spirit behind it themselves.

02:04:07.040 It's like, exactly. It's like an automobile, right? I mean, the automobile, the, the, the physics

02:04:15.780 and the laws and the, the, the, uh, the engine of the automobile, the basic laws that govern it

02:04:22.160 are the same as always, right? However, cars today don't look like cars in the 1920s. They don't look

02:04:31.920 like the first Daimler engine from Germany in 1890. The, they're all based on the same principles,

02:04:39.940 but a car today can go 150, 200 miles an hour. And those cars could go 25. So what it is is that

02:04:47.740 we have to constantly be updating the blueprint. The blueprint is exactly the same in terms of many

02:04:54.280 issues, but we have to update certain, uh, aspects of it to meet our time and place. You know,

02:05:01.160 it's like Mussolini says, fascists cannot be nostalgics. We have to be men of our time.

02:05:11.080 That's it. And this is, um, this is the thing is that, uh, national socialism is ultimately

02:05:16.260 about the promotion of life as we live it now. And in the future, it's not, um, about anachronism.

02:05:23.900 It's not about posturing or, uh, or aesthetics and anybody who thinks that needs to leave.

02:05:31.160 Well, I agree. And one thing, uh, Stryker's real big on, and I've, I've seen this play out several

02:05:36.800 times is, you know, the, the problem with the capital T traditionalism, uh, you know, I, I call

02:05:43.180 myself a traditionalist, but it's, it's very difficult. And Stryker's right that the, the word

02:05:48.580 itself is pregnant with a lot of antiquarianism, uh, a lot of, uh, implied conservatism. And when I say it,

02:05:56.760 I mean rad trad ideals, honor, loyalty, transcendence of self, uh, you know, fidelity. Um, and those

02:06:04.400 things are, are, you know, just as valid in, in a sci-fi spaceship, uh, or, you know, uh, for

02:06:12.380 modern, you know, for modern youth as it is for somebody in a buggy or somebody in like, uh, you

02:06:18.200 know, a religious garb. Uh, these are perennial principles that don't belong in one time and

02:06:23.020 place. Precisely. And this is, um, I want to, we're going to get into the Caliuta news soon.

02:06:30.300 So I want to kind of touch on this last topic. So in the fallout of the event, right, we've seen our

02:06:39.360 enemies attack us, uh, with an intensity that we haven't seen in quite a long time. And so naturally

02:06:44.820 this is kind of separating the sheep from the goats, the wheat and the chaff, so to speak. And so we're

02:06:49.400 getting guys, especially at part of the, uh, alt-light conservative crowd who are cucking

02:06:54.120 intensely and even some people who consider themselves alt-right to be, uh, engaging in

02:06:58.920 this kind of exodus. And so, um, I'm going to write a much more detailed letter and do a podcast

02:07:04.140 on the, the fissures within the North American far right, um, to begin with. But I wanted to get

02:07:10.060 your perspective on the current, because it seemed Charlottesville was an attempt, uh, at unity,

02:07:17.000 but now in the fallout, it becomes more and more clear that if we don't have at least basic,

02:07:23.220 share the same values and principles of our worldview, um, you know, even though we might

02:07:28.240 be ideologically different, that it's incredibly difficult to engage in solidarity, even if we

02:07:33.820 are, um, uh, racial kin. And so I want to get the pressure and danger always, uh, especially 0.93

02:07:46.000 on the, on the right. But, you know, in general, when there's pressure and danger and, um, consequences,

02:07:51.880 people who are less motivated or more fragile because of their situations are gonna move away

02:07:58.740 and, and break off from, uh, the system to become safer. So all these events are just, uh, kind of

02:08:05.820 purifying the movement and, uh, you know, cleansing it of weaker elements, not necessarily weaker

02:08:13.500 because they're bad people or even because they're mentally weak, but simply because they can't risk

02:08:20.740 as much or they're not as, uh, committed because of their life situations. So, and this is, I think,

02:08:27.380 what we're seeing and what's going on. And I do see it in a way as a positive, uh, event, even though

02:08:34.900 it's painful. I mean, uh, I've suffered personal consequences because of it and it's, it's very

02:08:41.780 unpleasant, but, um, that, that's, you know, that's, that's how it is. Uh, nobody said that

02:08:49.900 it was going to be easy. Yeah. There was a George Lick and Rockwell quote that I was trying to find

02:08:54.780 earlier, but that I couldn't find it. And he, um, he essentially was saying that the right in the

02:09:00.400 United States for the last hundred years has been trying desperately to avoid a big fight. Uh, it's been

02:09:06.600 doing everything in its power to kind of cock and to appeal to this loser, weak, pathetic mentality 1.00

02:09:11.600 because it's conflict averse. And that no matter what we do, no matter who we are, no matter what 1.00

02:09:16.820 policies we have, if we oppose the Jews and their agenda, it's going to be a fight for life and death. 0.96

02:09:22.160 It's a mortal struggle. I know. I know Vox, Vox Day kept accusing, uh, Anglin and by extension,

02:09:28.500 the rest are actually more like national socialists like me. He was trying to argue

02:09:32.320 with national socialists and Anglin's not exactly a national socialist. Um, but you know, that for,

02:09:39.360 for people like Vox Day, like conservatism and being on the right is integrally about being a 0.98

02:09:45.300 beautiful loser. And if you're out there, um, trying to not lose, then you're not truly right wing.

02:09:51.500 And, you know, he sincerely consistently believes that, you know, it's, it's, it's incredible. I'm like,

02:09:56.880 okay, well, if being, you know, right wing involves being that, then I'm left wing. I

02:10:02.220 don't care about the, you know, fire your label gun at me all day long. I don't care.

02:10:07.740 Well, Vox is a reactionary and reactionaries, conservatives. Well, it's in the name. They

02:10:13.740 can only react to what the radicals do. But the reason conservatives like Vox are going to get

02:10:21.280 flushed down the drain is because the reactionaries aren't in power. We don't have a king or a monarchy

02:10:30.420 or, you know, a czar or a church in power right now. We have atheistic, evil Jews, evil, 1.00

02:10:37.980 neoliberal, capitalist Jews that support the most radical anti-human left wing progressive quote 0.99

02:10:45.300 unquote values. And so Vox has, Vox is supposed to be the revolutionary in that case because they're

02:10:55.060 reacting in favor of their power, but he's, he's so at, he basically just wants to sell his books

02:11:01.560 and be left alone. That's what Vox wants. He wants to make money.

02:11:05.120 That's what conservatism is all about is selling, selling the books about Hillary Clinton. I mean,

02:11:08.860 you can imagine how horrified they were when Trump won and all those books about Hillary Clinton didn't

02:11:13.360 no longer really had an audience.

02:11:14.620 So many ghost writers just unemployed. Yeah. No, precisely. And this is what it comes down to.

02:11:22.600 And I think that, um, anybody who doesn't, who doesn't think this is, um, is bound to fail. And

02:11:28.200 this is what the next episode we're going to be recording on is, is just this mindset is the way

02:11:32.720 that I see it is the only way that we're ever going to be successful is number one, if we embrace,

02:11:37.860 um, you know, embrace these, these trip values of tradition, um, that are perennial as the core

02:11:45.100 of our worldview, because these are the things that allow us to build solidarity because they're

02:11:49.420 in accord with natural law in the real world. And I think things like atheism and materialism are

02:11:54.660 fundamentally incompatible, um, civilizationally, culturally with any sort of seriously successful

02:12:00.520 right-wing movement.

02:12:01.260 Well, let me, let me pause you on that real quick. Uh, when you say atheism, uh, do you

02:12:06.480 mean somebody who, um, is, is a secular humanist, um, and makes himself a god and, you know, the

02:12:13.580 fedora tipping internet atheist, uh, because there, there are a lot of people who currently define

02:12:19.260 themselves as atheists and perhaps technically are who do share these perennial values and do,

02:12:25.920 you know, we, we, we could argue and I would argue, um, without being at risk of incondescending,

02:12:31.260 I would argue that they're sort of, uh, pre-religious or primordially religious. Uh, but I, I, you know,

02:12:38.560 I think a lot of our listeners out there, I know this is a religious show and I'm, I'm Orthodox

02:12:43.340 Christian, but I don't want to counter-signal or leave those guys behind who do, uh, feel like

02:12:50.260 there's something that transcends themselves, even if it's just symbolic at this point.

02:12:55.180 Right. Well, I think that there, with, um, these people, they already implicitly buy into a, a, a

02:13:01.880 transcendent worldview, right? So we don't, we don't have, uh, we don't actually have the time to sit

02:13:07.060 down and kind of discuss the philosophy and the nitty gritty of it. But I think that it's just

02:13:10.740 important, uh, to, to stay that safe as a fact is that those, that kind of transcendent mindset is,

02:13:16.880 is not negotiable because people are not willing to fight and die. People are not willing to be, uh,

02:13:22.160 suffer in, in the gulag for 30 years for fake, uh, abstractions. They're willing to do it for

02:13:27.980 blood, you know, for soil, for fatherland, for faith. Yeah, that's true. That's true. And so I

02:13:36.600 think that the second, the second piece I just wanted to add was I think that the, um, that the

02:13:42.160 revolutionary mindset is that, that we're completely opposed to the kind of, to the new world order,

02:13:47.260 to the Zog system, uh, is also absolutely essential. And I think a lot of people are 0.89

02:13:53.400 still invested in the idea of America as a civilization, as an empire, as a state. And I

02:13:59.160 don't think that, um, operating in those presumptions in this post Charlottesville world is, is going to

02:14:05.320 be an effective strategy for very long. So I would please strike or go ahead and give, uh, give your

02:14:12.820 input and your, your opinion. Well, uh, what, what I'd say is that, um, there are the, the perennial

02:14:21.540 values are, I agree with the perennial tradition in the sense that, you know, when, when you see,

02:14:27.540 um, what, when you, when you see a knight from the middle ages and then you see a man, a panzer,

02:14:37.320 a panzer commander in a tiger tank overseeing out of the hatchet, you see the same thing. The steed 0.59

02:14:46.040 has changed. The steed is made out of iron. It's faster. It's more powerful, but the idea is the

02:14:52.860 same, the same kind of chivalry and bravery and, and, and will, will to fight. Uh, so I, I definitely

02:15:00.080 agree with that. And, uh, I think those values are eternal, but I think they're carried more so in

02:15:07.480 the blood than, and this is my opinion. Of course, I believe they're more carried in the blood than

02:15:12.420 they are necessarily in any set of specific religions or doctrines and whatnot. I think

02:15:18.400 those are vehicles for it, but I don't know if it's the chicken or the egg. That's my opinion.

02:15:24.300 Fair enough. I understand. Um, Zyger or Mayhem, would you like to, uh, to add?

02:15:30.720 Yeah. Well, ultimately I make the distinction, as I've said before, between kind of the, uh,

02:15:37.400 material worldview and the spiritual worldview. And ultimately when you, when you're on the material

02:15:43.600 worldview, you always end up with individualism and, uh, the, the pursuit of pleasure and safety

02:15:53.500 as the, you know, the utmost goal to achieve. And when you have the spiritual worldview, you,

02:16:01.780 you want things that are more eternal, more long lasting. And that can include, you know,

02:16:07.780 your descendants and your ancestors, because it stretches out in time beyond like just the

02:16:12.480 present moment. So in that sense, you can have people who are technically atheist in the sense

02:16:18.620 that they don't believe in one, um, central God. And, you know, there are religions that

02:16:23.620 are atheist, like, uh, some forms of Buddhism or Hinduism. Sure. And I don't, don't, I don't

02:16:30.160 think that's necessarily incompatible. Ultimately, as you said, it's about, uh, finding value in

02:16:37.760 something greater than just the self and the material and the things you can experience here

02:16:44.020 now and putting your faith and your, uh, basically your value system on things that are greater

02:16:52.380 in space, in time, in the different dimensions. And that includes, you know, gods and spirits,

02:17:00.280 but it also like in a certain sense, your blood is not a material thing because your blood, uh,

02:17:07.940 it's not something you can see. It's, uh, all of your ancestors stretched out in time.

02:17:13.680 And all of your descendants until the end of time, it's something that's beyond, uh, things 0.98

02:17:20.960 you can see and feel in the present moment. So in that sense, blood is a spiritual concept,

02:17:26.000 not a material concept, even though you can say, oh, well, it's, there's DNA and there's

02:17:31.080 protein and, uh, tissues and stuff like that, but that's meaningless. Uh, and that's why you

02:17:36.760 can have people who are materialists, who are part of the system or leftist and liberals who

02:17:42.960 can believe in, uh, genetics and, you know, the, the, the material aspects of the blood.

02:17:48.340 And yet their values still remain totally, uh, materialist in the sense that they don't care

02:17:54.920 about the future. They don't care about their race and things like that. Whereas some people

02:18:00.200 who don't even understand, uh, DNA and things like that can still have, believe in blood and

02:18:05.500 believe in, um, their ancestry. And even if they're atheists, it doesn't matter because

02:18:12.220 that, that is a spiritual concept. Same with the soil and, uh, things like that.

02:18:18.100 Right. And this is the distinction that I'm referring to.

02:18:20.460 Um, the, the paradox for me, uh, my, my single greatest inspiration in my work, um, I have

02:18:27.600 several, but Cornelio Cadriano, uh, the iron guard, you know, uh, as for my legionaries is

02:18:34.000 sort of, uh, uh, second only to my Bible. Um, but you know, the, the problem, the paradox

02:18:39.320 that's impossible to, to ignore is that Cadriano was ultimately defeated by the clergy and by the

02:18:48.840 monarchy, the nobility. Um, and, and, you know, you could fit, you could fit the clergy in a small

02:18:55.780 passenger sedan. In fact, uh, the, the clergy willing to fight for us actually did fit in a

02:19:01.260 small passenger sedan and drove down to Charlottesville. Um, you know, uh, you know,

02:19:06.580 father, father Raphael Johnson. Uh, and we, you know, I, I, I get these people messaging me and

02:19:12.760 they're like, you know, I, I read Cadriano. I'm excited about orthodoxy. I'm ready to fight the

02:19:16.700 spiritual battle and I've got books for them, but as far as like pointing them where to go,

02:19:21.260 um, you know, I, I, I hesitate to lead too much with Christian nationalism until we can get our

02:19:29.940 own internal affairs in order enough to not be leading them to the local wolf where there'll be,

02:19:34.360 you know, they'll go to the nearest orthodox church and hear a homily on, you know, how,

02:19:39.360 how fascism is, is, you know, satanic and globalism is the future. Yeah. Yeah. Uh,

02:19:46.360 just like you can be an atheist and still be part of the spiritual worldview. You can also be

02:19:52.800 Christian or any other religion and be a materialist. Um, just having abstract beliefs

02:19:58.360 in certain things does not make you, you know, a part of that perennial, you know, spiritual side to

02:20:07.280 this conflict. Um, there's a certain spiritual attitude to it that goes beyond your, you know, uh,

02:20:15.860 church denomination or even your professed beliefs. It's possible to be fully like on the spiritual

02:20:22.900 side and yet not be part of any religion or not have any, uh, strong beliefs about God or things

02:20:29.140 like that. And inversely, it's possible to be totally on the side of liberalism and materialism

02:20:35.800 and like believing in pleasure and safety first and profess to be Christian. So you have to make that

02:20:43.820 distinction and, you know, understand what is really important. Well, metaphysically I'm not

02:20:49.680 a perennialist, but metapolitically I'm absolutely a perennialist. It's a subtle, it's a subtle

02:20:54.760 distinction. Yeah. No, I mean the, the episode I did was slide rolls on that episode. That's pretty

02:20:59.120 much the conclusion. So, all right, gentlemen, I don't, I would love to discuss our main topic

02:21:05.760 further, but we've gone over our time. So now we're going to move into the second section of our show,

02:21:11.580 Kali Yuga News, for the first time in several months. So typically, uh, for those of our guests

02:21:18.040 here who have forgotten, who have not been on the show before, every one of the guests picks a story

02:21:22.760 and reads the byline and presents it, and then we make our comments. So if anybody has a burning desire

02:21:30.000 to pick an article and go first, I'd be glad to, uh, to give them the privilege.

02:21:34.240 I got one. I got a good one. Go for it.

02:21:41.320 Trump tells Jewish leaders he plans to go after anti-Semitism.

02:21:49.520 Bring it on. Read on. Well, guess we should have gone back in time and voted Hillary. Fuck. 0.99

02:21:55.380 This, this article is about Trump yesterday getting, well, there was supposed to be a bunch 1.00

02:22:05.280 of rabbis calling him and 99% of them boycotted the conference call because he condemned Antifa 1.00

02:22:12.700 when he signed that stupid bill. So that's what the rabbis, the statement they made, and 1.00

02:22:17.800 the one or two rabbis that did make the call, he promised them he's going to stop the anti-Semites. 0.99

02:22:22.960 Well, shit, that sounds to me like, okay, so he promised to stop the anti-Semites, but 0.99

02:22:29.920 because he condemned Antifa, all these rabbis, like, chimped out and left, right? 0.99

02:22:35.540 They, they chimped out and left first, and the few that did talk to him, he promised he

02:22:41.340 would stop the anti-Semites, yes.

02:22:43.600 Sounds to me like you, you just can't make a kike happy and you just shouldn't try and 1.00

02:22:47.320 should just, uh, throw him off a fucking cliff instead. Fuck. 1.00

02:22:51.120 Well, here, here it is, yeah. 1.00

02:22:53.820 Yeah, well, this is the kind of, this is, um, so this is perhaps a subject that we can

02:22:58.500 kind of discuss in general is, um, you know, Stryker and Zeiger, Parrott as well. I know

02:23:04.540 that you guys all supported Donald Trump, uh, you know, in the presidency and the election

02:23:08.020 and I, Parrott, I read your, uh, AMA on Reddit where somebody asked you this question directly.

02:23:12.360 And so in light of, and after the event, Donald Trump did do us a favor by condemning, uh,

02:23:19.060 Antifa and much to the eye of the media. But as we're seeing now, Donald Trump has been

02:23:24.020 under the thumb of Zog since he got into office. That's, and now they are using their pressure 1.00

02:23:29.980 to bend him towards their political will. So I'm curious what your guys' thoughts are on

02:23:35.080 Trump, uh, these days. And what conclusions do you draw from us?

02:23:40.220 Well, I, I, I, exactly, as a specimen.

02:23:41.720 It was huge because...

02:23:44.080 No, go ahead then, Matt.

02:23:47.540 I was just gonna say real quick, uh, the, the, the thing about Trump winning in November

02:23:51.620 that they can't take away from us, uh, was that it was clearly a signal that we don't

02:23:56.700 want the Mexicans here, uh, we're moving in a nationalist direction. You know, whether,

02:24:00.720 whether, whether they receive amnesty or not, it's important. It, it, what's the, the mandate

02:24:06.000 stands. Trumpism exists independently of Trump in that America, the American people sent a

02:24:13.040 loud and clear signal that they are moving away from the reservation. Um, and it, it was

02:24:19.020 a seismic victory, a polarizing victory, uh, which the, the neoconservative movement, uh,

02:24:25.820 may never recover from. Um, and they, they can't take that away from us. Yeah, I mean,

02:24:35.940 Trump, uh, what Trump himself does is sort of secondary. Yeah, I, I agree with that. The,

02:24:42.100 the biggest, uh, positive for our side is the public demonstration that, that, uh, people

02:24:50.720 who support this sort of stuff, no matter how moderate it is, are the vast majority of

02:24:56.620 white people and the overwhelming majority of white males. And just the fact that everyone

02:25:03.660 knows that has a big impact on people's psychology. Because, uh, you know, as we've discussed before,

02:25:11.760 because of the Lemming principle, um, people base their attitudes and their behaviors on what

02:25:17.320 they believe their peers, uh, expect out of them. And in spite of the fact that the media

02:25:26.560 are saying that everyone's, you know, uh, a liberal, insane person, uh, now that you have

02:25:33.540 just the, the election results show that actually, no, uh, you know, I'm not alone. I do believe

02:25:39.000 that these Mexicans need to go back. And I, I do believe that, uh, you know, in, in these 1.00

02:25:44.140 kind of right-wing things, and that's, uh, that's a huge positive for us. But yeah, obviously

02:25:50.280 Trump right now is, um, under huge pressures and his administration is riddled with Jews 1.00

02:25:56.080 and infiltrators who, you know, probably would have been more comfortable in a Clinton administration.

02:26:02.660 And, uh, it seems increasingly likely that he's not going to be able to accomplish most

02:26:08.520 of the things that he's promised, you know, regardless of what he would want himself. Um,

02:26:14.620 but that's not necessarily the end of the world for us. I mean, um, we're going to take what

02:26:19.160 we can get, but ultimately I don't think anybody was under the illusion that this fight was going

02:26:25.600 to be won by anyone else but us.

02:26:27.840 It's the beginning of the world for us. Cause I mean, if Trump solves all the problems we're

02:26:31.760 hoping to solve, what, what the hell good are we useful for? So I consider it a win.

02:26:36.580 Yep. Yep. Yep. And if Trump gives amnesty, that's going to be the end of the Republican

02:26:42.360 party. Mark my words. Yeah. And there's no one's ever going to vote for them again. Yeah.

02:26:48.780 Some people are saying that it's a strategy in the sense that he, he said, well, he basically

02:26:54.900 removed DACA and then says, well, okay, now the Republicans can, uh, give them amnesty if

02:27:00.220 they want. And some people have speculated that, oh yeah, Republicans don't want to give them

02:27:04.640 amnesty because they know that it would be the end for them. I don't know if that's

02:27:09.880 true. We'll see soon enough. But yeah, the fact that Trump has gone on and said like,

02:27:15.200 oh yeah, I did a deal with the Democrats and all of that. It's not looking good. Um, I'm

02:27:21.100 not really hopeful that this is all some grand strategy, honestly.

02:27:24.060 No, neither am I. I mean, I think that it should have been immediately obvious to anybody who

02:27:28.700 was paying attention when Trump launched a missile at Syria that he did not have control

02:27:34.080 over his own foreign policy. And if you cuck once, if the Jews can manipulate you once, 0.98

02:27:40.160 then they can do it again. And it's easier the second time. It's pretty simple. Um, and 0.99

02:27:45.720 I think that this kind of just comes back to, you know, people have this, the mindset, they

02:27:49.720 don't want to get into a fight. Um, they're not prepared, um, you know, to get into the mortal

02:27:53.940 struggle with our enemies who have, um, been dominant for the last hundred years. And people

02:27:59.300 just need to break themselves to this. They need to understand that there is no easy way,

02:28:03.060 no clean way out of this situation. And that it is, um, you know, you, you're going to have

02:28:10.260 to answer to your ancestors, whether you showed up or not, essentially, if they exist. And I

02:28:15.220 think that ultimately the only way that Trump could like win this and do it and accomplish

02:28:20.800 his agenda is if he starts putting a lot of people in jail. And until we see that,

02:28:25.340 I mean, we know that he's progressively just going to lose all of his, um, positions and

02:28:31.860 be undermined left and right. Cause that, that's the only, the only way you can fight is, you

02:28:36.640 know, through, uh, you know, violence in that sense. And let's make one thing clear. Yeah.

02:28:42.100 Okay. Go ahead. Sorry. No, that's basically what I said. Like if he doesn't put people in

02:28:46.380 jail, he's, he's screwed and he hasn't been doing that, even though you would have been

02:28:51.940 justified in doing it. So he's basically screwed in the longterm. Well, I think what's great 0.98

02:28:57.940 about Trump is that he ran on a platform that he'll probably not accomplish 90% of. And it's

02:29:05.400 scathingly obvious that it's because the president is irrelevant. I mean, a lot of stupid assholes 1.00

02:29:12.840 were getting mad at Obama for eight years saying, Oh, if it wasn't for Obama and they're like, Oh, 1.00

02:29:18.220 that stupid nigger, blah, blah, blah. But here's the truth. Obama sat in his office looking in the 1.00

02:29:24.460 mirror for eight years and he had Jewish underlings doing all the, the governing because the president 0.89

02:29:31.200 of the United States traditionally does not govern. Nor did Bush, nor did Obama. That's why nothing

02:29:36.500 changes in this country. So showing the average white man in America, including boomers, but more

02:29:43.480 relevantly, the younger crowd that the president doesn't matter, that who you vote for doesn't

02:29:49.620 matter, that you have no power. And that an unelected cabal rules you is very important. And I think the

02:29:56.900 Trump presidency is going to be the straw that breaks that camel's back because once people stop

02:30:02.680 believing in the ballot box, well, you know, absolutely. And I think that this, yeah, I think

02:30:10.600 that from a strategic perspective, it was wholly in our interest for Donald Trump to win. And in some

02:30:16.600 ways, for the reasons you just said, striker, it is more polarizing, more shocking than a Hillary

02:30:22.240 victory, uh, could have been because if Trump, um, destroys himself in some senses, that's far more

02:30:30.980 powerful than Hillary destroying them ever would have been as a wake up call. Yeah. Very true.

02:30:39.540 All right. So let's go to our, uh, Imperium when? Yeah, indeed. Indeed. So let's see here. I'm

02:30:47.720 going to, uh, I'm going to pick the next story. Um, this is one of the most important stories in our

02:30:52.420 feed this week. This is from Russia today. Petrodollar and looming as China and allies dump it in oil

02:30:58.640 trading. Jim Rogers. Now this is the, this was the front page of, um, Russia today on the 15th of

02:31:05.700 September. So literally yesterday. Um, so I'll read on Beijing has announced plans to start a crude oil

02:31:13.020 futures contract priced in Yuan and convertible into gold. The step might lead to the emergence of a new

02:31:19.240 Asia-based crude oil benchmark to compete with, uh, Brent or West Texas intermediaries futures.

02:31:25.140 Essentially what this is article is about is if you've been listening to Mysterium fascis, you know

02:31:30.700 that the United States, uh, the, the international Jewish empire is kept afloat by financial wizardry. 0.70

02:31:37.620 And a lot of that has to do with the connections between, um, currency and oil and finance and business.

02:31:45.660 And in order to keep the economy stable, they need to find, uh, they need to keep the United States

02:31:51.320 dollar floating. And so the, I think that this is an extremely, extremely, uh, dangerous thing for the,

02:31:59.200 for Zog because this is China and Russia, as they said earlier this year, that they're going to move

02:32:04.400 off of the United States dollar for, uh, petroleum trading. This is a, another step towards this. And this

02:32:11.520 is the economic type of economic warfare that has the potential to totally disrupt, um,

02:32:19.480 the Western Western world of digits to collapse this, uh, usurious economy.

02:32:27.920 I didn't know people were still using Zogbox. I, everything I do is on Bitcoin now.

02:32:31.900 Um, yeah, indeed, indeed. Yeah. I mean, I think that this is, well, I had that included in some

02:32:39.380 of the notes there that the, um, you know, increasingly you will have to accept the mark

02:32:44.720 of the beast in order to do normie transactions and engage in normie technology. So the imperative

02:32:50.660 for our own, uh, the sort of alt tech, um, will not, not like, it's not only important. It is

02:32:58.580 physically necessary at the moment. Uh, you know, as, as the Eastern was demonstrated.

02:33:03.060 It's needed, needed for the sake of just to be a Christian anymore because he said it's

02:33:07.200 accepting the mark of the beast to do, um, normie transactions. I guess I'm going to have

02:33:12.140 to buy my groceries in Bitcoin and, uh, Monero and, uh, what's, uh, Tezos was the other one

02:33:18.040 we've liked too, but Monero is the one that's we've approved.

02:33:21.040 Yeah, indeed. So I just, uh, another international finance reminders for our, uh, for our listeners.

02:33:33.820 So I can't help, but I think this is, uh, I can't help, but I think this would be probably

02:33:39.760 that the death of the petrodollar, China and Russia, by the way, uh, China also has the fastest

02:33:45.640 growing Christian community. I don't know what to think about that, but, uh, well, I guess

02:33:50.780 God will choose another. Um, but I can't, the death of the petrodollar and the death of

02:33:57.100 American power read Jewish power. I can't help, but I think would be the best, absolute best 0.92

02:34:02.800 thing for the, not just the white race, but white Americans as a whole. Uh, it's very obvious 0.80

02:34:07.700 that America needs to die at this point. If you ask me, amen death to America. Uh, it's 0.99

02:34:16.820 part of this larger trend. That's not really even related to, uh, our politics where the

02:34:24.020 West is no longer standing, you know, uh, in control of the rest of the world and, you

02:34:30.020 know, China, Russia, and even the global South, they're steadily asserting, uh, their dominance.

02:34:37.460 It's like with this North Korea thing, it's like America's going to have to find out the

02:34:40.600 hard way that we're no longer capable of dominating the Pacific Rim. Like, like we were in the 20th

02:34:47.380 century. We don't realize that yet. Uh, but we've made a lot, a series of poor decisions,

02:34:53.080 including, you know, putting monkeys in costumes and giving them the franchise, uh, which, which

02:34:58.840 have, uh, weakened us. Um, and that weakness is now playing out in, you know, these countries

02:35:05.640 moving away from our currencies, moving away from us as the center of the universe. It's,

02:35:10.740 you know, to borrow from Dugan and the Eurasian, you know, it's, we're moving towards a multipolar

02:35:14.740 world and the fall of the petrodollars part and parcel of that. Yeah. Well, I mean, the American,

02:35:21.540 uh, Imperial army is, uh, incredibly weak right now. I mean, we, we've seen, uh, recently,

02:35:27.200 what was it? Two American warships collided with a merchant vessel or a fishing vessel. I mean,

02:35:34.220 that's, that's ridiculous. I mean, obviously warships are super fast and they have incredible 0.75

02:35:39.140 radars and all these systems, whereas merchant ships are really slow. So the fact that it was

02:35:43.760 this collision is just an indication that these people are totally overworked. That's what happens

02:35:49.960 when you make affirmative action hires, because anyone who's been in the Navy and I wasn't in

02:35:55.440 the Navy, I was in the Marines, but I heard all the horror stories, but that's what happens 0.96

02:35:59.280 when you plan simple hire niggers to do your navigating. It's great. America's military 1.00

02:36:04.200 is doomed because we wanted infinity niggers. Well, there is that, but there's also the fact 1.00

02:36:10.180 that ships are out on the sea for far too long. Like the soldiers can't rest anymore. They're

02:36:16.800 constantly like they're in fucking, uh, 130 countries simultaneously. It's insane. And, uh, 0.99

02:36:24.340 the morale of the troops is dropping. They're fatigued. They're overstretched. And, uh, I don't think

02:36:31.740 that, uh, you know, they're losing all the conflicts that they're in basically. And, uh, you know,

02:36:37.580 it's, it's a disaster. Uh, if, if a major conflict erupts, I'm not sure at all that, uh, the American

02:36:43.180 military would do well.

02:36:44.740 No, I actually, uh, I agree with you. And I think father Johnson has done a very good

02:36:48.020 job documenting this fact where he informs us that the desertion rate in the American military

02:36:53.640 right now, he is higher than in Vietnam, right? That's, I wish I could fucking get back in 1.00

02:37:01.040 and be an officer so I could get the training and then immediately desert to train American 0.98

02:37:05.580 Vanguard as a, the new, the new essay or something. Cause fuck it. Oh, fuck this fucking country. 1.00

02:37:14.520 The, uh, the, the, the problem with America is that for at least since world war two, actually 1.00

02:37:19.780 since before that American foreign policy is hinged entirely upon Jewish neuroticism. So 0.86

02:37:26.440 every irrational whim a Jew gets about anything requires a trillion dollar war from Zog. And 1.00

02:37:33.820 when you have such an incoherent military doctrine, there's no way it's sustainable because they're

02:37:39.180 not doing it for oil. They're not doing it for gold. They're not doing it for any of the

02:37:43.960 traditionally, the traditional imperialist reasons they're doing it to some Jew is scared

02:37:48.940 about Saddam Hussein or some Jew is scared that Kim Jong-un is going to give Bashar Assad missile 0.65

02:37:54.420 technology. This is our foreign policy. So how can, how the fuck can you sustain something like

02:37:59.720 that? You know, it's ridiculous. Are you saying striker that our, uh, American foreign policy is 1.00

02:38:05.520 crying out as we strike you? Yeah, there you go. Yeah. I once heard, um, American, the American

02:38:13.220 military apparatus described as like a big retarded giant. And you kind of would expect them to 1.00

02:38:18.920 be like a Goliath level warrior, but he actually just often accidentally steps on people and it's

02:38:24.300 really unpredictable. And you're not sure if he's going to go full Lenny and snap his fucking pet's 0.99

02:38:28.840 neck. But yeah. So any, any of you other gentlemen want to pick another story? 1.00

02:38:36.300 Oh, damn. I got two that I want to, I got here. You got, um, wow, this one, if you just, cause you got 0.98

02:38:45.800 several here, you got, um, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, seven of these motherfuckers. So you 1.00

02:38:53.540 got one that has McDonald's employee 25 is arrested after giving birth to baby boy inside the restaurant

02:38:59.900 and then trying to flush him head first down a toilet. And, um, you got to wonder, you see this

02:39:09.780 bitch right here? She's got this man jaw. She's got like a lot of high tea. It's just a California, 1.00

02:39:18.780 of course. I mean, finally, California is finally outdoing my home state, Florida for our, our most

02:39:26.900 fucked up state. Right. But honestly, at this point, just seeing the nature of women and America, 0.99

02:39:35.220 this, this just like, isn't really anything shocking to me. So instead, I think I'd like us

02:39:40.240 to go on to some good news here where hackers can order sex robots to kill their owners. Yeah. 0.99

02:39:47.940 It looks like, it looks like the death of the white race and probably Asians too. Isn't going to be, 1.00

02:39:53.780 isn't, it might be on postponement because what's going to happen is I can hear, I can see Florian

02:40:00.700 right now, uh, taking lessons from weave just to do this. Then he's going to, Florian is then going

02:40:10.700 to take this, the sex robots and arm them to destroy whatever lab is working on. You know,

02:40:17.440 whatever transhumanist bullshit they got going on. Like let's, let's implant a working womb into men 1.00

02:40:24.360 because Sweden. Okay. But here they, they say, point out that hackers could one day order sex

02:40:32.440 robots to kill their human lovers. A cybersecurity expert has warned cyber criminals could easily 0.67

02:40:38.640 breach the robots in their defenses and turn them against their human owners. Lecturer, Dr. Nick Patterson

02:40:44.720 says, hacking into modern day robots would be far simpler than accessing more sophisticated

02:40:51.340 devices like smartphones or computers. He says, so basically I could fucking do this and let's face 0.97

02:40:56.640 it. Come on. Anyone here? Sorry. Hello? You cut out there, doc. 0.99

02:41:06.660 Well, it's a pretty funny story. And it is true that hacking into these sex robots will probably be

02:41:13.240 extremely simple. Um, though the guy who said that is, well, he's not bright in the sense that,

02:41:21.140 uh, obviously a sex robot, well, any, any robot that's shaped like a human is not going to be 0.96

02:41:26.100 strong enough to, you know, kill a man. So it's not, uh, it's not going to happen, but, uh, the concept

02:41:33.620 is pretty funny. Yeah. That's, that's why we all, uh, all our listeners out there need to absolutely

02:41:38.520 keep up to date on your firmware updates on your sex robots, uh, to, uh, and keep your firewall

02:41:44.280 secure. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. You need to use, uh, keep an, keep, keep your emergency floppy disk.

02:41:52.740 Yeah. Back up your wife whose personality. Yeah. Yeah. Close the open ports when you're not using 0.94

02:41:57.800 them. Uh, you know, a lot of these problems actually are the same with your, your human, uh,

02:42:02.760 human companion, female companions as well. Yeah. It's, it's probably going to be easier to hack

02:42:08.740 into, uh, uh, you know, women and get them to kill their husbands than, uh, the sex robots. 1.00

02:42:13.100 What I meant is, um, new millennium, new viruses to worry about. There's no one getting away from it. 0.96

02:42:19.380 It's basically a servos and artificial muscles and, um, pneumatic systems. They're, they're not

02:42:26.620 like strong at all. Like there, there is that thing in like a transhumanist circles where they,

02:42:32.160 they assume that if you have an arm made out of metal, it's going to be stronger than a normal

02:42:36.740 arm. But of course that's not true because, uh, uh, you know, human, human muscles or animal

02:42:44.060 muscles, biological, like that's really good stuff. It's, uh, we're not even remotely close

02:42:50.340 to getting the same performance levels and we're probably never going to be, uh, in the

02:42:55.320 same, you know, decades away. Oh, decades away. Well, centuries away from Canadian, creating 0.98

02:43:02.020 a robot as strong as a Canadian female. That's for sure. Yeah. Those girls are hardy. That's 1.00

02:43:10.220 true. That's true. All right, gentlemen, uh, we've gone to the end of our, our time limit. And so we've

02:43:15.300 come to the end of our show, although there's always infinite Kali Yuga news to cover because

02:43:21.240 hell is a bottomless pit. So to our listeners, thank you for joining us. I'm your host, Florian

02:43:28.220 Geyer. Joining me today, I had Doc Mayhem, who has had to leave because of, uh, technical

02:43:34.120 issues. So we thank him for his participation and his input. I have returning today, Zyger.

02:43:39.500 Zyger, thanks for coming on.

02:43:41.700 Thank you. It was a pleasure to be here.

02:43:44.200 Likewise, and always. Once again, returning to the program, we have Matt Parrott, traditionalist

02:43:49.320 Workers' Party. Matt, thanks for returning.

02:43:53.040 Thank you for having me.

02:43:54.620 We always enjoy your presence. And for the first time on the program, we had Eric Stryker

02:43:58.440 of the Daily Stormer. Eric, it's a pleasure. I'm really enjoying your new podcast, and I

02:44:02.260 would recommend all of our listeners go and check out Fascism Now.

02:44:07.320 Yep. It's on, uh, it's on TRS, the right stuff dot biz. Uh, but, uh, pleasure to be here.

02:44:12.500 Great conversation. Uh, hope people got something out of this.

02:44:15.720 Absolutely. So to all of our listeners, Shalom.

02:44:21.440 And Eva Schmann, Kyrie Eleis, wo war denn da der Edelmann, Kyrie Eleis?

02:44:36.320 Spieß voran, drauf und ran, setzt aufs Klosterdach den roten Arm.

02:44:44.440 Spieß voran, drauf und ran, setzt aufs Klosterdach den roten Arm.

02:44:51.440 Spieß voran, drauf und ran, setzt aufs Klosterdach den roten Arm.

02:45:21.420 Spieß voran, drauf und ran, setzt aufs Klosterdach den roten Arm.

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02:46:33.140 Mies voran, rauf und ran, setz aufs losverdacht den roten Haar.

Mysterium Fasces Episode 35 — Charlottesville

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