Mysterium Fasces - Mysterium Fasces Episode 46 — Bulgaria + The White Front

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00:09:59.880 Yeah, I can only imagine.

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00:10:59.840 As we kind of move out of the West,

00:11:29.820 dragged away from the West,

00:11:59.800 towards frivolity,

00:12:29.780 that we have to engage in,

00:12:59.940 So, um,

00:13:29.740 familiar with Bulgaria at all. And certainly, I can only speak for myself, but I have no

00:13:36.540 great or deep knowledge on the history of nationalism in Bulgaria and on the current

00:13:41.080 state of political affairs. Although I have certainly met some very good Bulgarians of

00:13:47.340 high character over the years. So maybe we can start by talking a little bit about the

00:13:53.740 history of the Bulgarian nation and the history of nationalism in Bulgaria. We can either

00:14:01.140 start with the establishment of the third Bulgarian state or maybe the post-World War II, the grip

00:14:09.740 of Soviet communism on the country.

00:14:12.780 No, I thought you were going to make me go back thousands of years.

00:14:17.660 That would have been a hassle because the communists changed up a lot of history and 0.71

00:14:25.220 there's lots of theories and lots of things are very controversial nowadays about ancient

00:14:32.420 history that is. But about the establishment of the third Bulgarian states, there was after

00:14:38.040 the Russo-Turkish War where we had volunteers in there. After we had a failed uprising where

00:14:44.580 the Turks literally slaughtered all the people here. 1.00

00:14:47.660 So we practically enacted revenge and in backlash, we kind of slaughtered them as well.

00:14:55.420 After that, we got the Russian government for about like one or two years where they set

00:15:00.980 things up. We got a German monarch, Alexander I of Battenberg, because he was a cousin of the

00:15:09.700 Russian emperor at the time and he was suggested.

00:15:11.600 Then afterwards, he abdicated because of fighting in the Serba Bulgarian War, because of unification,

00:15:23.340 complications, Balkan stuff. In World War I, we joined the Central Powers because of what happened

00:15:31.600 in the Balkan Wars. Lots of land that we lost, we wanted to regain it and Germany was the only 1.00

00:15:36.780 country offering it at the time. Of course, we lost it, but we were very close to Germany and less

00:15:44.300 less so to Russia from that moment on. And afterwards, in World War II, we joined the Axis. We will remain 0.68

00:15:53.660 neutral for most of the time, but even though we remained neutral, we got bombed by Anglo-American bombers,

00:16:01.660 we got invaded by the Soviet army, and we ended up turning into a communist state. Communism was very

00:16:09.900 rough. My great-grandfather was one of the people sent to a death camp for not wanting to give up his

00:16:16.340 land. He was a hero, basically, from World War I, so it was very rough on the family.

00:16:25.500 Yeah, I can imagine. It kind of seems like pretty typical narrative for most places where communism

00:16:34.340 took over. I was recently in the Czech Republic, and I had the opportunity to go to the Museum of

00:16:41.400 Communism there, and they were talking about how they would, when they first were engaging in mass

00:16:46.000 collectivization, anybody who refused to give up their property, especially people who were religious

00:16:50.980 and politically agitated against the regime. Often they would send them to uranium mines,

00:16:57.700 where they would, you know, work them with no protective gear, and so all of these guys would

00:17:02.180 die of radiation exposure, you know, and get horribly disfigured immediately.

00:17:06.740 Yeah, yeah. What they did here, the most disgusting thing that I know of is a death camp very close to

00:17:15.220 where I live. It's not where my great-grandfather was sent. That was another one, but this one,

00:17:20.180 especially, they made everyone climb up to a mining hill where they would mine for something. I'm not

00:17:26.180 totally sure what, but while they're mining on the hill, they placed dynamites, and basically everyone

00:17:31.540 on the hill needed to either jump off or get blown up by the dynamite, and you have people falling down

00:17:37.300 and breaking their necks, their legs, everything, and practically dying instantly, or you had people being

00:17:42.980 exploded by the dynamite. And there was other, like, prisoners there that needed to collect the body

00:17:50.420 parts afterwards. I've heard stories of, like, old people that were there that were talking, you know,

00:17:55.940 you pick up, you see heads, torsos, legs, arms flailing around, and when they fall down, they're still,

00:18:03.540 they're still, like, twitching, and you need to pick it up very fast, or else you're gonna get shot.

00:18:11.620 And then the commissar practically needed to, needed to burn it all. You know, these people were

00:18:18.980 the same savages that fought in Russia, the partisans. They went up in the hills and came down,

00:18:25.460 burned the village down, and took all the things and left. These, they're obviously, you know,

00:18:31.860 always been led by Jews, even here. The most prominent Jew is, uh, that I can think of at the

00:18:37.700 moment is a woman named, uh, Violeta Yakova. She was, um, she was a partisan that killed Kristu Lukov,

00:18:46.020 actually. She went up to him in front of his house and shot him, um, I think it was several

00:18:52.980 times in the chest in front of his six-year-old daughter, I think it was. And he was shot dead,

00:19:00.260 practically, there. And that's when we lost, uh, the most prominent fascist leader in the country

00:19:05.220 at the time.

00:19:08.420 Fascinating. Do you want to go into a little bit of the history of, um, you know, fascist and

00:19:13.220 national socialist politics in, uh, Bulgaria? Um, because...

00:19:17.620 Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot of, um, there's a lot of controversy nowadays,

00:19:24.900 especially if they were fascist or if they weren't just because people shy away from that

00:19:29.860 thinking that they can, uh, subdue the government, not banning events, such and such. But every year,

00:19:36.100 you know, they try banning it and eventually it's going to go. But basically, Kristu Lukov was

00:19:43.140 not the founding member, but he was the most high, high standing member because he was an officer

00:19:48.900 in the army and a hero from World War I. He, in World War I, he, what he did was, uh, he was still

00:19:56.020 not even a major major. And what happened was he was on the border to Serbia and while we were using

00:20:02.260 the war, his entire battalion, or I'm not sure if it was a battalion or division, mutinied and they

00:20:09.460 all left the front. And he was practically left there only by himself against, uh, literally

00:20:14.260 thousands of Serbian soldiers. And he fired cannons all night. So we didn't lose a city of

00:20:20.020 60,000 Bulgarians just because he fired cannons and there was a sheep herder that actually handed him 0.99

00:20:26.580 the shells. So he practically saved an entire city. And when the Serbian, uh, commanding officer found out

00:20:32.820 that it was this, uh, one man and a sheep herder, he spit on the ground and shook his hand out of,

00:20:39.540 uh, wow. Yeah. Uh, it didn't, uh, the playwright George Bernard Shaw write a famous, uh, play about

00:20:49.140 the, uh, Bulgar-Serbo war? First of all. Uh, I, I don't know about that. I know that in the

00:20:56.820 Surud, uh, famous Russian song, uh, what's, I forgot the name actually, Farewell Slavyanka. It was

00:21:03.620 actually written about Bulgarians in, uh, the first world war though. Mm-hmm. So, I mean, I can, um,

00:21:12.100 the history of the modern kind of state of Bulgaria is only about 130 years old. And so it kind of went

00:21:18.980 from a kind of German-led monarch, uh, you know, standard European, uh, monarchial system. During

00:21:26.420 that time, was it, um, semi-constitutional? Was there a parliamentary apparatus? Uh, how,

00:21:31.780 I guess the question is, you know, how, what is the history of liberalism like in Bulgaria? And has

00:21:37.220 there, please go ahead. It's always been hard for every monarch to do his job because when the Russians 1.00

00:21:43.300 came and gave us a constitution, you know, we had a Russian government for about one or two years,

00:21:47.700 so they can set up the state. Um, they set up literally the most, one of the most liberal

00:21:54.340 constitutions in all of Europe. So you, we had a constitutional monarchy, a government,

00:21:59.780 even though the conservatives were, which were practically, you know, they answered every single

00:22:05.620 desire of the, um, of the monarch, you know, they were very decent most of the time, especially our

00:22:11.460 first prime minister that, uh, was actually a veteran from the Russo-Turkish war in the,

00:22:17.620 uh, uprising before that. It worked most of the time because we had the government in our pocket,

00:22:23.620 but in situations like when we lost World War I, you know, people mutinied from the front and went

00:22:28.820 back to the cities. And then the Tsar had to abdicate the monarch and, uh, actually a liberal

00:22:35.620 government took over led by agrarians. Uh, he was literally, the guy that led the agrarians actually

00:22:42.500 didn't even feel like a Bulgarian. He, he was, he said himself, he was a Yugoslav.

00:22:47.940 He gave up Bulgarian insurgents in Yugoslavia to the Serbs, gave information about them.

00:22:53.700 And eventually, you know, his government got couped by the monarch and he actually took power again.

00:22:59.220 And that's when the country started being actually productive. And we actually started to develop

00:23:04.820 again, just as prior to that. So that, yeah, so the monarchy treated the Bulgarian nation fairly well.

00:23:12.980 So in the, um, I guess the, the, uh, the question is, it doesn't seem to me that there's been a huge

00:23:19.380 amount of time, uh, where Bulgaria has been exposed to kind of the treachery of hard liberalism or,

00:23:26.500 um, communism in a way that's, um, I guess what I'm trying to say here is that fascism usually is a

00:23:31.700 reaction to, um, end stage liberalism and communism. And it just seems to me that, uh,

00:23:38.740 I guess my question is, what is the level of development of Bulgarian, um, you know,

00:23:45.700 far right nationalist, you know, thought and, uh, history aside from the monarchical history?

00:23:54.580 Well, there was the movement by the Tristovokov led. That was a very big movement. It was the

00:24:01.460 biggest in the country at the most prominent members, legionnaires. And then there were the

00:24:07.140 ratniks, which were much more, much smaller, but very radical. They were actually banned by the

00:24:12.820 government because they didn't want to get problems with them because what they did in the forties,

00:24:17.940 people can look this up. It was called the Bulgarian crystal knots where they went out and

00:24:21.940 they smashed Jewish shops. And they were, they were very orthodox in the sense that they were, 0.88

00:24:27.460 uh, they were basically like our version of Kudriano's movements in, uh, Romania. Uh,

00:24:34.100 very, they loved the orthodox church a lot and they follow a lot of teachings.

00:24:39.860 And after they were banned, they, you know, they still operated. A lot of them joined the SS.

00:24:44.820 And afterwards, the last remnants of, uh, national socialism in the country was when the country

00:24:50.500 got taken over by communism and, uh, uh, there was, um, uh, government in a different country.

00:24:57.380 I don't know how that was called exactly, but it was another fascist, uh, Alexander Tsanco that

00:25:03.060 actually led a government in, oh, it was a government in exile from Austria. And a lot of them,

00:25:09.300 I think they fought in Vienna till, till eventually the communists came and, uh, practically butchered

00:25:16.740 them all. Uh, but that's not written. There's not enough written about it to be sure what they

00:25:22.500 fought till the end. Interesting. So I guess there's a whole bunch of different directions that we could

00:25:30.980 go here. Maybe we can talk a little bit about the post Soviet state of the, um, state of Bulgaria.

00:25:39.380 So it's been about, um, 30 years since the collapse of the Iron Curtain and the Soviet empire.

00:25:45.780 Um, now Bulgaria was an independent republic, as I understand, uh, in the Warsaw Pact. And so you,

00:25:53.060 you know, what you said that communism was very heavy handed on Bulgaria. How was it compared to places

00:26:00.500 like, um, you know, Romania or, you know, Czechoslovakia where, well, I don't know

00:26:08.500 about how heavy handed it was in that sense, because I was in, my father traveled to Romania.

00:26:14.740 I know that, uh, the Romanian dictator actually left the country in such a state where they had 0.84

00:26:20.740 zero depth to anyone, but you know, it's, they, after communism fell there, they were practically

00:26:27.540 all dying because they didn't have any food. While over here, the transition was a lot more peaceful.

00:26:32.820 We just had recession and things like that, which fixed itself semi, uh, decently over time as

00:26:40.020 decent as you can get in this part of Europe, I suppose. Um, afterwards, you know, democracy,

00:26:47.380 of course, like every Soviet country, I post Soviet country, they always, you know, uh, sold all the 0.96

00:26:53.060 factories practically to themselves, abandoned all industry. Like if you, if you take a train across

00:26:58.500 the country, you can see that the country looks like, uh, like a siege scenario has already passed

00:27:07.780 because of all the abandoned factories. And not only are they abandoned, but gypsies go in and they 1.00

00:27:12.500 take all the armature, all the steel, all the walls, they literally break it down until there's nothing

00:27:17.540 left like cockroaches. It's, it's almost scary, but you know, that's always fine. Uh, though I know about

00:27:27.460 like, uh, religious, um, they always, uh, stop religious activity in the country. Uh, like my mother

00:27:35.620 told me stories of how she bought an icon at a church, you know, uh, you could have done that. But when her

00:27:41.300 teacher saw it, you know, she, uh, ripped it up or, uh, try it or just basically threw it out.

00:27:48.340 And, uh, one day she was carrying a cross, uh, in school, uh, uh, basically a necklace and her

00:27:55.220 teacher, you know, just threw that out as well. When she saw it and said, yeah, we sent the man to

00:28:01.140 space and he didn't see God. How do you see God? Yeah. Pretty typical, uh, anti-Christian attitude 0.63

00:28:09.620 for most of Marx's countries. Marxist countries. So did this church in Bulgaria, uh, was it a,

00:28:15.860 it's, you seem to insinuate it was allowed to continue to operate even under the communist rule.

00:28:20.940 What was the level of repression like on the church by the, um, communist?

00:28:25.700 Well, they practically, they practically killed all the proper Christians in the church. You know, 0.98

00:28:31.460 that's why we still face problem problems in the East and the Orthodox churches nowadays in Russia

00:28:36.420 and Bulgaria and Romania. They replaced all of the, um, all of the proper Christians in there, 1.00

00:28:42.460 like the patriarchs and stuff like that with, uh, communist spies, basically that would, uh,

00:28:47.480 you go to church and you can't really share anything. And if you do, that guy's going to

00:28:52.740 tell on the secret police and you're going to go to a death camp. It's almost, uh, scary because you

00:28:58.280 had these people and you, they were practically in every corner in every building and you never knew

00:29:02.840 who was an agent, not only in the Orthodox church. It was allowed to operate, but it was a facade just

00:29:08.860 to spy on people. Practically. I think Stalin came up with that idea originally when he allowed it in

00:29:13.880 Russia. Yeah. So there was a sort of a similar situation with the Moscow Patriarch. Um, does that,

00:29:21.260 does that situation continue on, uh, into today? Do you still kind of have the lingering remnants?

00:29:26.060 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, it's a lot worse actually than it got before because we had a scandal a few years ago

00:29:32.480 uh, and I'm sure it practically continues. You had this, um, there was a guy at one of our most,

00:29:39.300 uh, important monasteries in the countries where one of the most prominent nationalist revolutionaries

00:29:45.140 was, uh, even lived for a little bit, hiding from the Ottomans because they were hunting him down,

00:29:50.920 practically. Um, one of the, um, you know, the monks there that actually lived there, they, um,

00:29:59.900 uh, uh, he actually turned out to be a homosexual, uh, to, it's a very complicated situation in that

00:30:08.780 sense. But the, all of the monks, you know, they, when they're not, it's, it's weird. We had a very

00:30:17.760 important Bulgarian, um, I'm not totally sure what the word is, but he was, uh, he was very much,

00:30:25.640 um, endowed in the faith. He basically donated, he lived poor his whole life and he donated over,

00:30:33.020 I think, 70,000, uh, euros or something of that sort to the Orthodox church buildings because they

00:30:39.640 need restoration. And he lived poor his whole life and he died very recently. He was like, um,

00:30:47.460 there's not enough people like him nowadays, I think, where they would give the bread out of their

00:30:52.360 mouth just to, just to be nice, just to be proper. Indeed. Indeed. But yeah, so I guess we can kind of

00:31:03.740 continue on the religious question. So, I mean, what is the general, um, religiosity like in the

00:31:09.820 country post-Sovietism? My understanding is that, you know, it's a liberal state, so it's officially

00:31:14.300 secular, but that Orthodoxy has some level of recognition as a traditional faith. And then most

00:31:19.840 people at least identify as Orthodox, but I know that there's also... Most people do. Yeah. Most

00:31:27.060 people are supposedly Orthodox, but you don't see, you know, you have the typical problems where they

00:31:32.120 go to church and they don't pray. You got the problems where they just wear crosses and put them 0.99

00:31:37.120 in their cars just for good luck or something like charms. Well, you know, they, it's, it's stupid really.

00:31:43.220 Uh, I know my father, which is practically agnostic or atheist. I'm not totally sure myself. And he has

00:31:50.600 icons in his car. Like it's, uh, it's, I don't know what the word is even for when someone acts like

00:31:57.960 that, but it's most people do it. Most people do things like that. Of course you have really

00:32:03.280 religious people, mostly old, but they're a dying breed nowadays. Yeah. So that sounds kind of 1.00

00:32:09.960 typical, um, for most countries. Has there been after the fall of communism, a resurgence in the

00:32:16.260 religion? I mean, cause we've seen in Russia, though it's certainly not by any means an Orthodox

00:32:20.700 country these days, there is, you know, they're building new churches left and right, uh, church

00:32:24.660 attendances. No, no, no. Churches are falling apart nowadays. The monasteries don't have enough money

00:32:30.220 to be kept because of the monks and patriarchs and everywhere. And the Holy Synod practically

00:32:35.320 steal money. They buy nice cars. It's, it's a disgusting situation. Like you have beautiful

00:32:41.360 churches in, uh, in small villages where they just, the Holy Synod cannot hold them practically.

00:32:47.920 So they abandon them and they take out, um, the person that's serving in there. So you got,

00:32:54.320 um, while at the same time you have lots of, uh, in the South of the country where

00:33:00.020 Turks live and a little bit in the North, you have a lot of mosques being built because 1.00

00:33:05.000 they have a lot of funding from, uh, from all over. They even have, uh, from Saudi Arabia,

00:33:09.880 a lot of funding. They have Islamic schools only. And if, because Bulgarians are somewhat 0.99

00:33:14.980 of a minority in those parts and different areas, you know, if you don't know your proper,

00:33:22.120 you need to basically accept Islam to go into this school. Uh, even if, even if you do accept 1.00

00:33:29.420 Islam and you're a Bulgarian, you're going to be highly discriminated and you're going

00:33:33.500 to be put up before everyone else, you know, Gypsy, Turk, Tatar, Pomak, uh, behind any different 0.96

00:33:40.180 minority. Even in my, uh, city, there was a singular mosque because in every city, there

00:33:47.620 was a mosque from the Ottoman empire that was left. They destroyed most of them, but they 1.00

00:33:52.260 always left one. And this one is, uh, I think in that situation and this mosque, uh, they 1.00

00:33:58.280 played, um, they played Islamic music early in the mornings and, uh, skinhead actually

00:34:04.140 climbed up and took their megaphone and shook, chuck it on the streets. They brought a new

00:34:08.660 one, a very more, a much more expensive one all the way from Saudi Arabia. And everyone

00:34:13.660 complained so much to the mayor where he didn't have any other, uh, choice, but to ban them from

00:34:21.060 doing that. So nowadays it's at least silent.

00:34:25.300 Yeah, I can only imagine. I know that this is a huge, uh, hugely contentious issue in most

00:34:30.860 places where, where this is done. Uh, um, so that's an unfortunate situation. Do you think

00:34:38.240 that this is due to, um, you know, the apathy among the population or a systematic corruption

00:34:45.200 among the, the hierarchy and the clergy, you know, kind of both, um, because like, you know,

00:34:51.540 Well, I think it's, I think it's the same time that people see that the job pays well to be a priest

00:34:58.280 and they study it really hard, but these people don't look at, um, don't look at the, you know, uh,

00:35:04.940 benefits to the soul. They just see the material benefits because these people, you know, when they

00:35:10.760 become priests, they study, uh, three or four dead languages. You know, they need to study

00:35:16.540 Latin, uh, Hebrew, Greek, ancient Greek, uh, and the old church Slavonic. Yeah, that's four

00:35:22.800 languages. So it's very hard that they need to study Holy texts and they need to have had good

00:35:29.560 grades practically their entire life to get into, uh, studying these things. And they're surrounded

00:35:34.820 by other people that think the exact same way. And at the same time, you got people that

00:35:40.180 just don't put enough effort when they go to church, you know, to build a community because

00:35:46.020 when people go to church, you know, they're like, uh, let's light a candle. It's more of a cultural

00:35:50.060 thing nowadays, not a religious one where they just light a candle and leave.

00:35:55.700 Yeah. I've heard, uh, similar stories from, from many, um, many Orthodox countries in the East

00:36:03.420 or traditionally Orthodox countries, uh, in the West. I mean, it's the diaspora community

00:36:08.380 tends to be, uh, you get similar levels, but the, the only people that come to church are fairly

00:36:14.060 serious about it. So there's that, there's that consolation at the minimum. Um, would you say like,

00:36:20.220 what's the state of the spiritual atmosphere among the youth? I mean, is atheism predominant?

00:36:25.560 No, it's, it's predominantly atheist nowadays. Yeah. It's, they're just surrounded by all this 1.00

00:36:30.760 propaganda and all this, these things on TV and whatnot. And, uh, it's especially in my city,

00:36:37.720 uh, from what I've seen walking around and whatnot, you, you got the same, you got some people

00:36:44.380 which are like their parents, you know, like my parents where they put icons and whatnot and

00:36:49.120 pretend like they not pretend, but they think they're religious or just because they have an icon

00:36:54.040 and went into a church once a year, um, and painted some eggs on Easter. Um, but that's pretty

00:37:01.700 much it. You know, it's predominantly atheists. It's the weed culture of the 21st century. 1.00

00:37:07.740 Yeah, that's very unfortunate, although not very surprising. Um, kind of returning to the current,

00:37:16.260 like Bulgarian political climate. I mean, what is the, um, obviously it's a kind of a liberal

00:37:21.680 parliamentary democracy. I mean, is the state, uh, generally speaking conservative, um, is the

00:37:27.840 government, like, is the parliament, um, you know, effective? Is it, you know, cause we have

00:37:33.040 countries like, like, they don't do their job. No, no, not at all. I don't see a difference if it

00:37:39.300 was a conservative or whatever, whatnot, because all the major parties and most of the small ones,

00:37:45.220 you know, have politicians, which either are sons of, uh, communists or practically communists

00:37:52.880 themselves, or in some rare cases, Jews, you got people like, um, the main party ruling for about

00:38:01.620 three terms. Now the guy ruling over it is called Boyko Borisov and he's actually, he was the bodyguard

00:38:10.520 of the communist, um, of the communist dictator, a bodyguard that became a fucking minister. 0.59

00:38:18.620 And then you have the Bulgarian socialist party, which is directly descended from the Bulgarian

00:38:23.000 communist party. They advocate for all the murders that happened when the Soviets came, even they're 0.99

00:38:27.380 disgusting. At least others pretend like that's not fine. Then you have the liberal party, which is

00:38:33.300 just a masquerade for the Turkish minority party and a gypsy minority party. Um, they practically, 1.00

00:38:40.520 uh, in some of their events, even though it's against the constitution, you know, political

00:38:45.140 events, they speak in Turkish, they, uh, their leader was again in the secret service during

00:38:52.320 communism. And at the same time, he was part of, uh, during communism, a Turkish liberation

00:38:58.040 thing, a terrorist group where they blew up, uh, they blew up, uh, while they operated because

00:39:05.220 it was for us for a short time, two train stations in one of the, um, and, uh, both train cars,

00:39:11.680 they were pregnant women when they blew up, uh, all of them Bulgarians. Then you have the biggest 1.00

00:39:19.020 patriotic party, um, uh, parties, which are the same. Like there was, there's one VMRO, which, um,

00:39:27.920 the leader of, um, Karakachanov, he was actually as well, a communist, uh, a member of the communist

00:39:35.200 secret service. And this continues how, like to all the different parties, it's just the same

00:39:39.920 everywhere. Yeah. So it sounds to me that the secret police basically, uh, just seized power of the

00:39:49.240 after the secret police and people like mafia bosses, mafia bosses, predominantly mixed with, uh,

00:39:56.280 communists. And just because they all like to steal money, at least in during communism, the money

00:40:01.460 somewhat went into building things and stuff like that. So, you know, we weren't, uh, we weren't afraid

00:40:07.580 of being extinct as a, as a people during communism. Well, now it's, I don't know, it's people complain

00:40:15.780 like, uh, how, because people still, this is Eastern Europe, people are racist, you know,

00:40:20.760 they complain, oh, during communism, we didn't see so many gypsies on the street. Now it's, uh, 0.99

00:40:25.480 in some areas, more gypsies or Turks and then Bulgarians. And that's very much true because 1.00

00:40:30.420 I don't know, to be honest, the situation has changed a lot.

00:40:39.080 Yeah, I can imagine. So it just sounds to me like it's pretty typical fair. I mean,

00:40:42.680 ineffective parliamentary politics governed by this kind of bureaucratic inertia, the holdover

00:40:47.460 oligarchs and strong men from the Soviet era. What was the level of the liquidation of the

00:40:53.020 economy like in the 1990s? Was it as bad as say the Ukraine or Russia, or was it more like, um,

00:40:59.880 you know, Poland or, uh, or, or, you know, Czech Republic or Hungary, where at least some of the,

00:41:04.600 the infrastructure remained?

00:41:06.480 Almost all of the infrastructure was gone. And the things that weren't gone was, were basically

00:41:12.800 taken over by either these communists or mafia bosses. It was all taken. And now oligarchs rule

00:41:18.680 over all of the business in the country. And most of the time they ended up selling it off. Even

00:41:24.080 what was left to different oligarchs, like the Russian oligarchs own our oil company, the biggest

00:41:30.820 one. And they actually, uh, um, failed it. And nowadays, you know, in my city, especially,

00:41:37.940 you know, it was before communism was, it was 5,000 people. And then the communists made it

00:41:42.900 into a hundred thousand big metropolitan city with lots of factories and all those factories

00:41:48.580 nowadays are gone. And these people mostly have to work in service and whatnot. And the wages aren't

00:41:55.680 good and everything. And a lot of them are moving out to different, uh, either cities or abroad.

00:42:04.480 So what is the, what's the general level of, um, of state efficacy and so on? I mean, are there

00:42:12.120 high levels of, of corruption, um, in day-to-day life?

00:42:16.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what do you mean in day-to-day life?

00:42:20.600 I guess what I'm asking you, you know, our governments, uh, like our government services

00:42:24.500 delivered with any sort of, you know, efficacy. I mean, what, what kind of, you know, state

00:42:28.960 presence is there? Um, you know, like, like for instance, you know, you're saying you're

00:42:33.160 going to a demonstration tomorrow. Do you have confidence in the ability of the state security

00:42:37.680 apparatus to maintain law and order?

00:42:40.780 Well, in the sense of the March coming up, I believe the police will do their job. From what

00:42:48.140 I know they always keep their job and there's not a lot of Antifa to face us, but the state

00:42:55.360 doesn't properly organize the police. They wait, uh, up and because they can't ban the

00:43:00.220 march. It's anti-constitutional. They don't have any rights or any evidence to ban us. And

00:43:05.340 the court always rules in our favor even, but they always wait to, till the last moment

00:43:11.940 to, you know, uh, uh, to block off all the roads so we can march across the streets.

00:43:18.140 Uh, so we can, um, do our, our march basically. And the police always gets there in the last

00:43:24.440 moment at the last second practically and does their job. And they're practically very annoyed

00:43:31.260 at that because the government makes them run. And naturally they take it out as a, you know,

00:43:35.920 these nationalists are making, uh, making their lives a lot harder.

00:43:39.540 Yeah, I can imagine. So, I mean, I guess the other question is in terms of, um, in terms

00:43:49.520 of, uh, you know, so like when we look at, um, let's say like the, you know, the government

00:43:54.560 in Poland, um, you know, Poland's government has been, um, you know, fairly good about providing

00:44:01.920 basic social services for the people and has been strengthening its, um, international health

00:44:07.500 care system, subsidies for families, that kind of thing. What's the state of basic social

00:44:13.040 services in Bulgaria? Uh, I can imagine that under communism, there at least must have been

00:44:17.580 a fairly, uh, robust, you know, infrastructure. I could be wrong. Feel free to correct me.

00:44:23.080 Uh, has that been looted and disintegrated since the fall of communism?

00:44:26.720 Communism left a lot of infrastructure, which could not, could not be kept. And then, and,

00:44:34.260 and serve it as services to the people, you know, uh, some pensioners get like, uh, 40,

00:44:40.580 50 euros a month to live on, even though prices here are a lot lower than Western Europe. That's

00:44:46.660 practically still not, uh, not enough for a person to live on, especially an old person that 1.00

00:44:52.480 can barely walk on his feet. And to be a pensioner, you need to be, uh, I think you need 1.00

00:44:58.280 to be 50 to 55 years old or you were 60. I'm not totally sure. It was a very old age. Like

00:45:04.320 my father is a mechanic and from his job, you know, it's very, it's very hard to do. It's

00:45:11.540 very heavy on the back and everything. Um, he's not going to be able to do it till he's a pensioner.

00:45:18.200 He's at some point like, uh, going to do something else because that's not going to be, he's not

00:45:22.840 going to make it to pension. Right. Yeah. It's kind of what I figured. So fairly,

00:45:29.180 fairly non-existent, fairly low level of infrastructure post, uh, post communism.

00:45:35.640 It's even, it's even, it's even gotten worse in the sense that we're discriminated in our

00:45:40.840 whole nation, much like in Western Europe, because I'm still a student in school. If you know,

00:45:47.240 in school, they provide this program where you get money from the state, if you have really good

00:45:52.220 grades, like, uh, but a gypsy just to inspire them supposedly to get better grades, um, you know, 1.00

00:45:59.540 they give them more money than us. And then a lot of these places, you know, in village, uh, places

00:46:04.120 where there's gypsies and Bulgarians that are a minority. And of course the Bulgarians, you know,

00:46:07.880 are the only educated ones to supposedly try to educate these gypsies. You know, they get beaten 1.00

00:46:13.000 up on their job, you know? Oh, why did you write me a low grade? I'm going to beat you up. You're

00:46:17.980 going to take my money away. Practically that type of thing. And it's, it's, it's a scary situation.

00:46:24.980 Like I, I feel like I don't want to study almost because I'm going to get more, much less money

00:46:31.640 from the States. Then, uh, that shit skin over there is going to get. Yeah. So I know that Bulgaria 1.00

00:46:41.420 is a member of the EU and NATO. Um, are these kind of, uh, you know, pro gypsy, pro Turk policies, 0.86

00:46:48.540 are these a result of, um, Western, um, Western influence or are these the result of the effective,

00:46:56.520 uh, uh, lobbying for power by these minorities through the, uh, parliamentary system or both?

00:47:02.000 Uh, practically both, you know, NGOs, we, uh, we got funded by, uh, there is, we have a small

00:47:10.740 Jewish minority. They're very small, you know, but they have an NGO that gets funded all over a lot

00:47:17.220 of money. You got all the liberal NGOs will get funded, uh, by Westerners, uh, by the EU.

00:47:26.520 Even this year, the, uh, the state is supposed to take care of practically all the EU delegates.

00:47:33.880 And that's why they were trying to ban the March this year. More than any, you got videos

00:47:38.560 online by the world Jewish committee, basically saying, you know, Chris to look of the port.

00:47:44.060 It's so many, so many Jews to trip link, uh, you know, the death camp. But in reality, uh, 0.93

00:47:51.300 uh, what's the reality of the situation? He wasn't, um, he wasn't alive.

00:47:56.520 Because he was shot the year prior that, uh, he couldn't have physically signed the documents

00:48:01.780 to, to these Jews, you know, to get sent to these death camps.

00:48:07.580 Yeah. It's being dead is a little bit of a, uh, a barrier to that kind of activity.

00:48:13.400 Well, they don't understand that.

00:48:15.040 Yeah, I can imagine. So the, um, is there, is there kind of popular, uh, resentment or,

00:48:23.800 or resistance to membership in, in the EU and NATO? Uh, I know for instance, like in

00:48:29.520 the Czech Republic, there is a very, very, you know, common and widespread Euro skepticism,

00:48:34.860 um, among regular people.

00:48:36.480 Yeah. Yeah. You got, you got tons of people that hate the EU here, but at the same time,

00:48:42.320 there is, uh, the country split almost in half of, you know, Russophobes and Russophiles.

00:48:48.780 That's continued most of the history, but now it's even more twisted, uh, than before,

00:48:53.880 because before at least it was, uh, people that were advocating for Germany.

00:48:58.060 Nowadays it's for America and capitalism and whatnot.

00:49:01.020 And you got the Russia, Russia, people that support Russia, you know, they wave literal

00:49:06.780 communist flags sometimes and burn EU flags. Then you got the, uh, the Russophobes, which

00:49:14.100 wave American flags, Ukrainian flags, NATO flags, you know, most of the people aren't and don't

00:49:21.200 fall into those groups directly, but they have a sharp opinion. Generally people don't like

00:49:27.680 the EU. They don't like NATO because they understand that NATO destroyed our army to

00:49:32.500 practically colonize us and put American bases down here. You got, um, our army during communism

00:49:39.300 was 300,000, uh, just soldiers. We got, we had a bit, basically the Warsaw Pact put enough

00:49:46.040 army, uh, put enough army infrastructure and whatnot and weapons and tanks and BTRs just

00:49:53.080 to, and we were just to, you know, be prepared in our country alone to invade at the same time,

00:49:59.900 Greece and take Constantinople from Turks at the, in a week's time, I think it was the biggest, 1.00

00:50:07.160 um, uh, biggest training, uh, military exercise in all of the Balkan peninsula at the time.

00:50:15.280 It was a very tense situations to say the least. And nowadays it's all gone from 300,000, uh,

00:50:23.940 military active personnel. We went to 20,000 and that's, it's, they, they have really old

00:50:33.020 uniforms. They don't even, a lot of them still don't even have a Kevlar helmets. They still

00:50:38.260 use the steel ones in some situations, ones from a world war one, you know, Bulgarian style

00:50:43.960 helms, which is, uh, absolutely absurd in the 21st century wearing a steel helmet.

00:50:50.740 Yeah. Wow. That's, uh, that's shocking and dramatic. I can't, cause like, I know for instance

00:50:56.120 in, like there have been other countries where naturally the, of course, after the end of

00:51:02.880 communism in Eastern Europe, NATO promised that they wouldn't, uh, they wouldn't try to gobble

00:51:08.660 up any ex-war sub-packed countries. And naturally they, uh, were lying through their teeth. Um, 0.75

00:51:15.080 and the, I know that, you know, in the case of, um, Poland and Czech Republic, some of these

00:51:20.260 other countries that, um, they made a whole bunch of exceptions to their military infrastructure. Um,

00:51:27.300 you know, allowing, cause like all NATO infrastructure has, has to be compatible with one another.

00:51:32.140 Right. And so it's, uh, it sounds to me that Bulgaria was uniquely, um, uh, stripped of 0.97

00:51:38.500 its, uh, uh, uh, military capital. Do you know if a lot of this extra material was, uh, like

00:51:45.480 sold on the black market or exported to other countries or, uh, you know, a lot of it was

00:51:49.360 sold to the black market, like you said, and a lot of it was, uh, practically scrapped for

00:51:55.140 metal. Uh, a lot of it's got sold to different countries. Yeah. Uh, I remember there's a video

00:52:00.820 online basically literally, uh, you know, uh, T7, T50s are outdated, but you can still keep

00:52:07.260 them at least when you don't have anything else. And there was a train of, uh, I think

00:52:11.940 150 T50s being sold off to some different country. I don't know who would even buy them

00:52:19.380 to be honest. Yes. Chad, perhaps. Um, yeah. So that's, uh, sounds, sounds pretty typical

00:52:30.260 to me. I can imagine that there hasn't really been any, any real investment in any sort of

00:52:36.620 infrastructure on the part of the, uh, liberal democracy. What's the state of the economy in

00:52:42.360 the country? So you said that the, a lot of the heavy infrastructure, uh, was destroyed.

00:52:47.200 My understanding is that Bulgaria towards the end of the communist era was actually developing

00:52:51.640 some, uh, high tech infrastructure. And I've also heard some things that it's got actually

00:52:57.100 a fairly thriving economy. Um, are these correct? What's, uh, your general impression of, of

00:53:02.760 all of these, uh, matters? Well, the only reason why we have any sort of infrastructure

00:53:07.960 properly built is because of EU money being funded and more than half of it gets stolen

00:53:14.080 usually. Like, uh, we have all the highways practically built or on, uh, EU money and they're

00:53:22.740 not very well built. Uh, most of them, they have potholes in them in some cases and whatnot,

00:53:28.060 you know, they're drivable most of the time, but there's no investment in the Northern part

00:53:34.240 of the country. Just most of it goes to either the coastline or the South just because there

00:53:39.800 is most need there and they forget people like where I live. Uh, there's practically the

00:53:45.280 zero infrastructure. Uh, the roads are so scary that I had an Austrian national socialist friend

00:53:52.000 visit me once and, uh, he looked at the streets and he said during World War II, this wasn't even

00:53:58.000 this bad. Wow. Yeah, that's, uh, unfortunate to hear. Um, again, a lot of this is not, not very

00:54:08.300 surprising, uh, unfortunately. So the, you know, but what is, so what's the state, um, of the economy

00:54:15.720 for, you know, regular people? Um, because there, I keep coming, coming back and using the, you know,

00:54:21.660 sort of example of Poland as a relatively successful post-communist state where, you know, there is, um,

00:54:28.900 a high level of jobs of, you know, people are even coming from other countries to Poland to work.

00:54:33.120 So, uh, there's a lot of, there's a lot of jobs, but they don't, they aren't well, well paid. Like I

00:54:40.140 worked for, um, from six to six practically, or sometimes extra just because the boss made me do

00:54:46.980 it, even though, you know, we were proper. I worked for 300 euros a month, uh, about, and, uh, I worked

00:54:55.040 in a meat factory where it was very heavy lifting. Sometimes lifting, uh, boxes or, um, pig heads for hours

00:55:02.980 hours on end with, uh, 10 minutes break every like, uh, three, sometimes four hours. Some, uh, some of

00:55:10.140 the workers had to stay almost illegally overnight just to work off something that wasn't worked off

00:55:16.600 in the day because the package didn't arrive or something. They were very tired, you know, uh,

00:55:23.180 that includes me once, once when I was lifting frozen pig heads, actually, uh, I dropped the thing

00:55:30.020 because it was slippery and the pig head, um, the ear was so icy that it, uh, cut a huge wound in my

00:55:37.840 hand when I, when it fell and actually fell on my foot as well. And of course it didn't, I didn't

00:55:44.260 get provided any work boots. So, uh, yeah, I saw, I can imagine. So yeah, wages continue to be pretty

00:55:51.860 low. So it's very fairly common, you've said, for young people to, um, you know, leave their

00:55:57.580 hometowns or even leave the country in order to find work. Yeah, they usually leave for Western 0.99

00:56:03.860 Europe, at least, uh, the most educated people that you can imagine that would improve the economy

00:56:09.780 just say, why should I work here for this amount when I, people are literally throwing money at me

00:56:15.560 in Western Europe, you know, and they go work in Western Europe. Even though they would have a

00:56:21.200 decent wage here and they can still work and they can still live in their own country, you know, 0.71

00:56:25.320 see their parents and whatnot, their relatives. If you study hard enough and go get a university

00:56:31.160 degree and, uh, get a proper job, like, uh, people that work with computers get, uh, a thousand,

00:56:38.500 two thousand euros in the capital city in some cases, and that's more than enough to live in

00:56:43.320 a Eastern European shithole. 1.00

00:56:44.740 Right. Yeah. So it's fairly, unfortunately, typical as much of the information we're, we're

00:56:54.320 discussing is, I mean, there's been no, I can, there's been no real attempt by the government to,

00:57:00.900 uh, incentivize, um, you know, workers staying within the country or no real attempt for, um,

00:57:08.860 the increase in have wages have, has there been, uh, an increase in wages over time or have they

00:57:13.560 remain stagnant? You know, wages increase, but prices increase at the same time.

00:57:20.240 Right. So just general inflation rather than an actual, people assume, people assume they

00:57:26.260 have more because, you know, technology improves and the prices drop and you can afford more

00:57:31.340 things like smartphones came in, uh, and whatnot, but, and then plasma TVs and people have those

00:57:40.360 things. But in general, you know, it's, it's, um, and I, in some cases I see a lot of people on the

00:57:46.720 streets, you know, even though wages aren't high, a lot of people have the newest iPhone or the

00:57:50.700 newest Samsung or whatnot, you know, I don't want to bother with buying those things myself because

00:57:56.220 I think it's trivial almost.

00:57:58.500 Yeah. Again, a trend that we see, uh, replicated throughout most of the world, people are interested

00:58:07.260 more in these kinds of status luxury items than in, you know, as you say, more important

00:58:13.200 necessities. Um, so what's the, uh, what are the effects of the post-communist liberalization

00:58:22.680 been on the Bulgarian culture and society? You've talked about the, you know, increasing

00:58:28.420 prevalence of, you know, foreign demographics, Gypsy, Turk, uh, and their own cultural cohesion

00:58:34.920 and, uh, systematic, um, systematic favoring by the state, uh, against kind of regular Bulgarian

00:58:42.220 people. But I guess my question is to you, uh, what do you, like, do you observe just the general

00:58:47.740 liberal degeneration in the youth, um, that we see everywhere else? Well, I didn't, I'm

00:58:54.400 not totally sure how to even answer that question. Liberal youth is liberal youth theory. They're

00:58:59.680 always going to get liberalized over time. There's a lot of weed culture nowadays slipping 0.98

00:59:04.860 in that you can notice. And then things like that. Right. I guess my question is, um, like

00:59:12.820 for instance, in Western European countries or in Canada or in the United States, um,

00:59:17.320 like the level of, the level of, of decadence is so intense that the, you know, you, you

00:59:23.660 see like a, just a total disillusionment among the youth. Right. And for instance, I mean,

00:59:28.700 I guess like what I'm asking you is like, um, you know, in Russia, communism kind of, uh,

00:59:35.760 Sovietism insulated it from a lot of the nefarious cultural influences of the West. And that immediately 0.95

00:59:41.960 after the fall of communism and the massive economic collapse of that country, there was the flood

00:59:47.220 of, you know, hyper degeneracy, uh, into Russia. And so I'm curious in Bulgaria, um, you know,

00:59:53.640 what's kind of like the level of, what's kind of like the level of degeneracy that you observe

01:00:00.280 among the youth and among, um, society in general? You have among the youth, you have a lot of football

01:00:07.020 trust and stuff like that. It's like, they're like Russia, but on a smaller level because we're a

01:00:10.980 smaller country. You have a lot of that stuff. Uh, these football trust, I know them personally

01:00:16.820 in some cases used to, you know, back in like, uh, more than a year ago, I used to go around

01:00:23.080 with them. The problem is these people act in a certain way. Uh, but at the same time, they

01:00:30.220 don't act ideologically correct. Like they do drugs, they get drunk. Uh, most of them smoke

01:00:35.680 and now I'm not only talking about tobacco and, uh, things like that. But those, that's

01:00:42.180 the small issue. The big issue is that most of the people listen to gypsy or Turkish turbo 0.99

01:00:47.620 folk, which turbo folk is basically what it came from Serbia. The idea is that, uh, they

01:00:52.760 take traditional music from the country, you know, the general music and they add, uh, the

01:00:59.280 generous lyrics like, uh, touch my ass or touch my dick and stuff like that. There's a, there's

01:01:04.920 actually a Turkish singer called Aziz in the country, which is famous among the youth.

01:01:10.620 I don't, it started as a joke originally, but people actually started listening to him

01:01:14.660 more and more. He has a song, which, uh, literally he sings about, uh, you know, uh, touch my genitalia,

01:01:22.840 play with my genitalia. He's a homosexual Turk. 1.00

01:01:28.500 That's all right. Yeah, that's a greatly unfortunate. A lot of the Serbian turbo folk I've ever been 1.00

01:01:34.480 exposed to, fairly wholesome. Uh, it's too bad to see that. Yeah. From the Yugoslav times, 1.00

01:01:40.320 nowadays in Serbia and in Romania, it's the, it's almost the same situation as here.

01:01:44.680 Oh, that's, uh, really unfortunate. Uh, yeah. Cause you go, the Yugoslav vintage, vintage stuff 1.00

01:01:50.820 is, uh, is quite sublime. Um, anyway, so yeah, it sounds, sounds pretty typical, but yeah. Do you

01:01:58.360 observe, um, you know, I guess my question is like, um, you know, when you go to a Western European

01:02:06.900 country, um, the, the, I guess the, I recently I was in, I was in Central Europe and so I visited

01:02:12.780 both Vienna and Prague. And one of the things that I found, um, so disturbing about Vienna is that

01:02:20.320 everybody looked like faggots and like all of the men were, yeah, all of the men were, were very like 1.00

01:02:25.780 metrosexual and like the vast majority of the time when we would see just, you know, like a regular

01:02:31.600 looking dude, you know, who didn't, you know, have some sort of a frilly scarf and all this,

01:02:37.980 he would be a foreigner or tourist. And then immediately what we noticed when we went to

01:02:42.020 the Czech Republic was that, uh, the men didn't all look like homos. Um, and so I, this was, uh, 0.95

01:02:49.380 this is kind of what I'm trying to get at. And my, my impression is that, uh, you know, Bulgaria

01:02:54.860 to, I have a good friend of mine who's from Russia and he said to me that Russia, it has

01:03:00.760 problems, but we are not faggots. And so that's, that's my impression of Bulgaria. Am I correct?

01:03:08.040 Yeah. It's, it's how you basically said, you know, I traveled to Western Europe, especially

01:03:13.320 with my father by car and I can see the gradual, you know, I traveled all the way from one end

01:03:18.600 of Europe to Belgium. So, uh, I could see the slow degradation and the same time, uh, the

01:03:28.280 rise of infrastructure, like every country that we went up, uh, went from, uh, like had

01:03:33.240 a one meter of, uh, asphalt extra every time you pass the border.

01:03:37.660 Nice. Yeah.

01:03:40.460 But you see the people being more and more homo, as you say, like, uh, I was astonished. 1.00

01:03:45.140 Like my British friend right now is in, um, in Sofia for the March tomorrow. He's very

01:03:52.680 excited. And he actually, when he, he was in here and, uh, he's actually, he messaged me

01:03:58.340 earlier and he's like, Oh, there's people here are not gay. What the fuck? And, uh, why are 0.99

01:04:03.500 there no, uh, I only saw like two non-whites. This is amazing. 1.00

01:04:07.300 Yeah. That is, uh, that is a distinct and eminent advantage. It's, uh, it's really weird

01:04:16.700 when you, when you're from a place that has that kind of high level of degeneracy and

01:04:20.280 multiculturalism and you go to a place that doesn't, it's, you almost, you forget like

01:04:25.460 your, your whole system is kind of reset. It's, uh, it's, it's an experience that I've

01:04:31.600 had, uh, very recently. So, uh, it's quite, quite fresh in my mind when, you know, you go

01:04:36.380 from, from seeing Africans and, and Arabs, like literally every day and in quite quantity

01:04:41.560 to, you know, seeing one in the course of like a week, it's, uh, like a shock to your

01:04:47.720 system.

01:04:48.020 Well, what happens here is basically in my city, even though it's very poor and with

01:04:54.000 bad infrastructure, we had, uh, we had the most, one of the biggest and most important

01:04:58.420 medical universities in all the country. And of course, because we're the cheapest country

01:05:03.120 to live in, um, in the, uh, the European union, a lot of people take advantage of that.

01:05:09.080 And I, you have a lot of students from London and I can see the entire demographics of London

01:05:14.480 in this one university, which I live very close to.

01:05:18.680 Uh, I just see the entire demographic of the, uh, of the capital city of the ex-British empire.

01:05:26.520 You see, I, I only saw like two white and British people come out of that university.

01:05:31.260 It's almost scary. I had, uh, in my fitness, I had, um, this was a year ago, I think, because

01:05:38.100 I haven't gone to fitness, uh, to, uh, to the gym in a long time. Um, I, I remember this

01:05:46.380 one Indian guy from the medical university that smelled like literally Korean shit at the 1.00

01:05:50.720 same time. And he was running on the treadmill at the whole time. And the whole gym smelled

01:05:55.540 like shit. So like a guy like took him off of the treadmill while he was running, pushed

01:05:59.580 him off and kicked his head in. He never came back.

01:06:02.760 Wow. That's, uh, yeah, certainly a far cry difference from, uh, the culture of most of

01:06:08.900 the West. Um, yeah. So I guess my question, do you, what kind of, uh, how optimistic are

01:06:16.500 you for the future of the, you know, Bulgarian people just based on their, their current health?

01:06:21.160 Because it seems to me that despite all of the, the issues that Bulgaria has, that, that

01:06:28.240 basic level of national coherence and, uh, identity and, um, lack of, of faggotry, it 1.00

01:06:37.660 seems to, to speak kind of highly in its favor for the, you know, the coming, uh, weeks and

01:06:42.400 months. And I would also say as a sec part two to that question, what have the effects of

01:06:46.360 the, uh, the invasion crisis been on Bulgaria, Bulgarian society?

01:06:52.720 What do you mean the invasion crisis?

01:06:54.540 The migration crisis, yeah.

01:06:57.460 Well, most of the country doesn't want to welcome them, naturally. Um, you see them coming 0.99

01:07:05.800 in and most of them, you know, reported they're not even Syrians, they're Ghanis. And most of 0.89

01:07:12.140 the time when they come in, uh, they bring in, uh, from, uh, basically the guys that put

01:07:17.840 them over the border, you know, they give them drugs. Uh, so they travel across, you

01:07:22.640 know, uh, carrying drugs. They, that's why there are little reports because according to

01:07:27.900 EU law, you know, they could go up to a border fence. It's a, I think that was a Dublin law,

01:07:34.160 uh, law, and they can, uh, be subjected to be refugees in the country if they have Syrian

01:07:40.100 documents and whatnot. But most of these people aren't, aren't even Syrians, either have fake 0.52

01:07:45.300 documents or just don't and just, just try jumping the fence, which even isn't that big.

01:07:52.260 They can, uh, sometimes go around it. And the EU actually blamed us for being fascists, for

01:07:57.600 building a, uh, a border, uh, fence that's, uh, 50 kilometers long. It's not even all that long,

01:08:04.960 uh, when the Turkish border is, uh, 300 kilometers in total. And of course you can't build over all

01:08:11.200 the terrain, but still. Yeah. Yeah. Indeed. Indeed. Yes. Great fascists for putting up some, uh, some

01:08:19.040 fences. That's the, um, yeah. Yeah. A fourth Reich is here in Bulgaria. Master fence builders. Yes, 0.90

01:08:26.000 exactly. Okay. So I think kind of, we've come to the end of our first hour. Um, so when we come

01:08:32.240 back, we're going to get into your group, White Front, a little bit more and clean up some of the 0.99

01:08:35.740 rest of the questions we have for Bulgaria. Get a couple of stories from Kali Yuga News and then,

01:08:40.700 uh, that'll be it. So to our listeners, stay tuned.

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01:14:17.180 A very wide range of topics about the current political climate in Bulgaria.

01:14:22.140 Now we're going to talk a little bit about our friend's group here known as White Front.

01:14:27.980 So why don't you get into the origins of this group and how it came about?

01:14:33.860 Well, originally what it came about is there were some Bulgarians, some not active to join us back in the Iron March forums.

01:14:45.480 And when I registered, I got contacted and got in touch with some of the Bulgarians on there.

01:14:52.100 And there was only three of us at the time.

01:14:55.420 And we met in Sofia for last year's March.

01:14:58.020 That was originally when we met.

01:14:59.880 Yeah, we had a fun time.

01:15:01.440 And over time, I spoke to one of the founding members.

01:15:07.580 And I was like, you know, I'm planning on joining this group, which already existed, the guys that organized a march.

01:15:14.340 And he's like, no, you shouldn't join them because this and this and that.

01:15:18.400 It's a complicated situation.

01:15:20.020 But he's like, let's start our new group.

01:15:22.800 And I'm like, OK, sure, I'm down for that.

01:15:25.500 And then eventually, slowly but surely, you know, over the years' time, we developed a flag.

01:15:31.320 We developed stickers.

01:15:33.340 And we're going to attend the march this year.

01:15:35.540 We did a little bit of urban exploration, which I sent you pictures of.

01:15:39.860 It was very fun.

01:15:41.100 We have the videos up somewhere.

01:15:42.940 We're going to edit them, try to edit them because I can't use Sony Vegas properly yet.

01:15:50.020 Where we're going to make a video.

01:15:52.840 Similar to, you know, what different groups have made over time, like SkiDust and stuff like that.

01:16:00.760 We're going to go try that type of look and feel.

01:16:06.140 Yeah, that's fantastic.

01:16:07.440 I interviewed the boys from SkiDust here on this podcast a while back.

01:16:11.280 And we kind of did a very, very similar style of episode on Lithuania subsequently.

01:16:15.800 And it was well received.

01:16:17.460 I quite like those guys.

01:16:18.300 And shout out to Vytautas, Jurgis, cool guys.

01:16:22.720 So, yeah.

01:16:23.240 So, this is essentially, you know, an outshoot of the fraternity that came about from Bulgarians on Iron March.

01:16:30.320 So, are there any other – how much interest is there in an explicitly national socialist or fascist organization in Bulgaria?

01:16:38.160 And what kind of – can you explain to me your own ideological worldview and your founding principles?

01:16:47.980 Well, you know, the founding principles of fascism, you know, what basically our march advocated for – we're actually advocating for the exact same thing.

01:16:58.540 We've translated news articles into Bulgarian and soon we're going to try to translate actual siege in Bulgarian so we can actually have it.

01:17:06.320 But first, I've only read on a PDF part of siege.

01:17:10.700 I think it was around 150 to 200 pages in the beginning.

01:17:14.940 And I'm going to get the actual book if I can, get my hands on it, and I'm going to share it with a friend of mine from the organization.

01:17:23.540 And we're going to try translating it into a proper Bulgarian.

01:17:26.720 That's going to take quite a while, I assume.

01:17:29.260 We haven't translated the book or even written one.

01:17:31.180 So, when we're done with that, we're going to try publishing it and selling it off to people.

01:17:38.220 And I assume it's going to be quite well-received because, you know, they sell publicly Mein Kampf.

01:17:45.900 My parents bought me Mein Kampf when they were on vacation, actually, a couple of months ago as a gift.

01:17:55.740 Well, that's very sweet of them to do.

01:17:58.540 Well, I'm glad to hear of your efforts.

01:18:00.000 But, you know, for most of our – not all of our listeners might be familiar with Iron March's particular take on National Socialist political philosophy and worldview.

01:18:12.200 So, maybe we can just very briefly go into that for them.

01:18:16.740 So, I don't think this will be important because you can't really talk about it enough.

01:18:22.040 There is a lot of misconceptions as to what people mean when they use the term, you know, fascist slash National Socialist.

01:18:30.000 And certainly, I remember when I first came into contact with Zeiger and he explained it to me.

01:18:34.200 You know, I asked him, well, how come I've never, you know, heard such a definition or a presentation before?

01:18:39.840 It was something I was totally unfamiliar with.

01:18:41.880 And so, essentially, what Iron March's school of political philosophy advocated was National Socialism or Fascism as a shorthand term for the instantiation of natural law in a modern political order or the implementation of a worldview of eternal truth to one's own particular national circumstances in a modern way.

01:19:05.860 And so, this is kind of radical because, you know, people – the reason why this kind of way of thinking had to come about when dealing with these terms is because this is the only means by which one can reconcile the apparent diversity, but also synchronicity and sympathy that these various far-right groups had for one another in the early part of the 20th century in Europe.

01:19:30.680 So, how is it possible that groups like the Spanish Falange, Italian Fascists, the NSDAP in Germany, the Iron Guard in Romania, which, you know, if you're taking their, you know, their particular worldviews, of course, the Iron Guard is a radical orthodox organization.

01:19:47.360 In many ways, you know, very different from, say, or, you know, British Union of Fascists in the United Kingdom.

01:19:56.260 However, they all saw themselves as essentially being united in the same struggle against international communism and capitalism, for the struggle for national sovereignty and prosperity for their people, against international Freemasonry and Jewry, and so on.

01:20:10.660 And so, it's this conception of fascism where it's less of a particular ideological instantiation of natural law, say, you know, Mussolini-style totalitarianism, whatever you want to – German-style racialism, but rather a more general worldview is the way that Iron March would even discuss it.

01:20:29.460 So, beyond just a mere ideology, it is predicated upon, you know, an idea of a transcendent spiritual worldview of absolute truth, which then is what attempts to apply to the nation in the political realm.

01:20:43.500 So, is that fairly succinct? Do you want to add anything to that?

01:20:49.160 I just want to add that we tell people usually, you know, we don't have an ideology.

01:20:54.460 We have a worldview, because that's where we stand.

01:20:58.060 You know, an ideology, the way we see it is that it's just – they're different in different countries just because, you know, different countries, different people, different history.

01:21:07.440 And when you have different people and different history, you need different – some kinds of different laws inside of the country.

01:21:15.060 And, of course, every movement has its own thing.

01:21:19.540 While a worldview is just trying to adhere most to natural laws as possible, and that's what we have.

01:21:25.620 You know, if you want to call it fascist national socialists, it's all the same to us.

01:21:31.980 Right, yeah, that's exactly – precisely correct.

01:21:34.600 That's where things stand.

01:21:36.300 And so, can you talk about – I mean, in your particular circumstance, you know, what do you – is there any unique properties to the Bulgarian national socialist worldview that you want to elaborate on or discuss?

01:21:50.640 You know, because I think there's a really good Kodriyanu quote, something to the – let me see if I can find it.

01:21:55.980 It's really, really snappy.

01:21:59.280 Here, let me just give you 15 seconds.

01:22:02.320 Yes, here we go.

01:22:03.040 See, Kodriyanu says this.

01:22:07.040 He says,

01:24:07.040 Zelio Kodriyanu from his prison notes.

01:24:09.240 So, I guess that's – what I'm trying to ask you is in context of that quote, what do you see as, you know, manifestation and as characteristic of the Bulgarian national character in its history?

01:24:19.980 Well, from the quote is our group right now in the 21st century, it doesn't really stand that much with the Orthodox integrity that they had because our group is mixed in some ways.

01:24:38.940 You have a – you have some pagans in the group and you have some agnostics and some Orthodox Christians like myself.

01:24:45.240 We all try to strive for one single struggle.

01:24:47.920 Of course, I do.

01:24:50.560 I hope that my brothers would join me in the faith one day, but I don't – I don't get all pushy about that always.

01:24:56.980 Yeah, that's – I find the quote practically the same in every other part, you know.

01:25:05.060 I agree with almost everything, especially the German racialism in comparison to the Italian totalitarianism or however you say it.

01:25:15.440 Yeah, that doesn't – that's kind of what I figured.

01:25:19.960 That's the situation with I think a lot of groups in the West as well is that they are kind of mixed religiously by necessity. 0.55

01:25:29.600 So, I guess kind of coming back to it, what do you – you know, I imagine that the problems which assail the Bulgarian nation are fairly much the same as for the rest of Eastern Europe and for Western Europe as well.

01:25:46.940 But are there any particular areas that are of special interest to you and to your group?

01:25:54.440 And is there anything that you're attempting to like promote very vigorously?

01:25:57.320 Like, for instance, in the United States, right, there's a huge campaign right now to promote awareness of opioid abuse and of, you know, the mass deaths of the white working class due to, you know, prescription synthetic heroin at the hands of Jewish pharmaceutical oligarchs. 0.84

01:26:16.020 Well, we're not exactly – we don't have a giant campaign to push except on generally getting members of time because we're a fairly small, a new group.

01:26:26.440 But – how should I put this?

01:26:31.440 We do advocate for the typical things, you know, no drug abuse, no whatnot.

01:26:38.460 We do have members which are smokers.

01:26:41.340 I am a smoker myself.

01:26:42.780 I'm trying to quit for quite a while now.

01:26:45.260 We do allow drinking in regulated amounts.

01:26:49.780 We just don't allow heavy drug use and whatnot, you know, no drug use.

01:26:54.480 Yeah, naturally, naturally, yeah.

01:26:57.240 Yeah, I guess kind of moving on.

01:27:01.360 So why don't we talk a little bit about – so your group is fairly new, as you said, formed just about a year ago.

01:27:06.580 So do you want to talk about maybe, you know, the goals of the group, you know, and the kind of propaganda you've been engaging in?

01:27:15.140 You talked already about efforts to translate Iron March articles, Siege and so on, networking, that kind of thing.

01:27:22.580 You know, you've alluded to and hinted that you're going to be participating in a march both tomorrow and next week.

01:27:28.120 Am I correct?

01:27:28.640 Yeah, this week, tomorrow exactly, I'm traveling with a member of our group, which lives in a small town next to mine.

01:27:38.820 And the march in Monday, which is a march for a Bulgarian national hero from the Ottoman times, which he fought against the Ottomans and he was eventually hung by the Ottoman court for anti-state activities at the time against the empire.

01:27:59.640 The attendance of the first march, Luko March, in memory of General Kristolukov, is about from 1,500 people to 2,000 people.

01:28:12.840 And the march in Monday, its attendance is upwards of 3,500 people.

01:28:21.000 It's fairly impressive.

01:28:22.240 That's a fairly active nationalist scene.

01:28:25.500 What's the population of Bulgaria?

01:28:29.640 It varies on some reports, but I assume it's around 6.5 million to pushing at 7 million.

01:28:38.660 That's actually quite fairly impressive, 3,500 people in an organized march for a country of that size.

01:28:46.140 You know, so, do you want to go on and talk more about your group's direct action activities and this kind of thing?

01:28:57.320 Or, you know, we can take this wherever you'd like.

01:29:00.280 I'm glad to discuss anything that's pertinent or of interest to you and the patriots.

01:29:05.200 If we're talking about our group exclusively, we're obviously the most radical in the sense of publicly advocating for national socialism and fascism.

01:29:15.240 That's why I think we would bring a lot of problems in some senses, if the media catches on to that, to the organizers, which, you know, they try to step away from that thing.

01:29:31.300 Because, you know, they push him to not be directly fascist just because they don't want the march to get banned on those scales.

01:29:40.320 And they do achieve that at the moment because, you know, the court ruled in our favor and the march is going to continue this year.

01:29:46.840 It's the last year.

01:29:47.500 They tried banning it for four to five years now, I think.

01:29:51.100 And there's attendance at the Luka March, especially from lots of international organizations like the Nordic Resistance Movement always attends.

01:29:59.500 We have French nationalists.

01:30:01.680 You've got German nationalists from Der Dritte Weg and the MPD sometimes attend.

01:30:05.940 We used to have Romanian nationalists, which came, which is always interesting because you have in the Balkan Peninsula, especially, you have a lot of people that are from different countries that argue over land disputes because historically our nations always fought.

01:30:26.320 The Balkans are the powder keg of Europe. 1.00

01:30:29.100 So you have the Romanians, which came, and just because we're ideologically similar, we managed to work together as that's expected. 0.92

01:30:40.060 And they were actually very decent from all I know they can.

01:30:43.840 We just don't accept generally Serbian nationalists just because of tough history.

01:30:49.720 And, you know, we don't know.

01:30:52.400 They wouldn't want to come to Luka March anyways because Kristolukov in World War I actually fought against the Serbians on that front.

01:30:59.100 It would be very difficult to incorporate them in the march.

01:31:02.380 Well, I do think if they want to come, like organizations like Srpska Aktsia, Serbian Action, if they want to come over to the march about Vasily Levskiy in Monday, they could because Levskiy actually fought.

01:31:17.460 The first Bulgarian battalion that fought against the Ottomans was actually Congress in Belgrade.

01:31:23.340 Even there is memorials of them, the battalion, there is a statue even.

01:31:33.500 I'm pretty sure that they will still be welcomed because we did welcome even Russian nationalists there from the Russian imperial movement, I think it was.

01:31:42.360 That's great to hear.

01:31:45.560 That's certainly something that seems to be very unique and encouraging to this generation of European nationalists is the kind of unparalleled networking and support that we have with one another.

01:31:59.300 I mean, of course, even this podcast in general is attempting to bridge some of that gap for our English language speakers and provide some insight into these various more obscure nationalist movements and efforts to fight for national socialism in countries abroad.

01:32:16.860 And so it's just really great to hear that there is that level of cooperation between our Nordic and Bulgarian and German and Romanian allies.

01:32:25.600 And I think I hope that this is a trend that does continue because, of course, there are very real ethnic and historical divisions and conflicts between our peoples that are not trivial.

01:32:41.300 They can't just be dismissed as unimportant by no means, but I think that most people have come to the point where we realize that we are all in this together and they all want us dead.

01:32:53.180 You know, Serb, Bulgur, whatever.

01:32:56.060 Yeah, that's why we advocate, you know, if we don't stick together as the most radical nationalists, we're going to get extinct.

01:33:06.640 So there's actually a memorial in Serbia of, you know, Serbians at the same time and Bulgarians that died during, I think it was either World War I or the Serbo-Bulgarian War, that, you know, historically nations didn't ally just because, you know, just because of anything.

01:33:28.240 They allied sometimes exclusively for survival.

01:33:31.460 And that goes for the religious stance as well, like, we might disagree with each other, but when we're on the brink of being extinct, we can work together now and start killing each other later. 0.54

01:33:45.120 Yes, indeed.

01:33:46.120 I think Nat Dainlaw once said that the whole purpose of preserving the integrity of the Nordic peoples was so that they could go to war again.

01:33:55.620 Yeah.

01:33:55.900 Well, that's a distinct European feature, we're warrior people, so this missing war for the sake of peace and unity, that's going to destroy our people nonetheless.

01:34:07.320 So once we do get that order back that we did have in Europe for thousands of years, of course, we're going to have conflicts again for silly land disputes or however you want to look over them.

01:34:18.980 And we're going to have wars again, we're going to have wars again, we're going to have wars again, we're going to have people killed and whatnot.

01:34:24.360 You know, a war is necessary in the end. 0.98

01:34:28.480 Yeah, well, inevitable, I would say, is the chief characteristic that these had been.

01:34:34.140 And the reality of the situation is, I think, generally speaking, it's very good to see that there is a kind of a dedication to not spilling our national cousin's blood over these disputes.

01:34:53.480 So, is there anything else that you want to discuss, you know, concerning Bulgaria, do you want to talk a little bit about maybe the gypsy question?

01:35:05.280 Oh, the gypsies are like, they're not even a question, you know, we're afraid of the Turks because they have a big state behind them and they can organize, you know, you got the special forces that literally, I think it was in their code,

01:35:17.900 where they integrate into European countries and start, like, small resistance and, over time, arm resistance.

01:35:24.000 And, you know, the race war, I think, would start from basically these Turks congregating with different minorities, especially in Western Europe and Germany, 0.84

01:35:32.820 where they are a majority here in the south of the country, parts of the south of the country.

01:35:39.140 You know, that would happen eventually with the Turks. 0.99

01:35:41.400 But the gypsies are just, you know, historically, since they were kicked out of India, they've been always inbreeding. 1.00

01:35:50.380 It's in their culture to steal.

01:35:52.340 They can't build anything.

01:35:54.420 They live in horrible conditions.

01:35:57.140 The simplest way I can put it, they're genetic trash. 0.92

01:36:01.100 They wouldn't even fit back in India. 0.95

01:36:03.040 They were kicked out of there, which being kicked out of a country where people literally shit on the streets is amazing.

01:36:10.500 Yeah, I mean, it's, most of, I think, our listeners are familiar with gypsies.

01:36:18.880 It's always been fascinating to me that every European that I've ever asked, even if they're, you know, real ideological liberals,

01:36:28.600 will admit to the gross degeneracy and awfulness of the gypsy population. 1.00

01:36:33.560 Like, that's why I have a liberal girl in my class at school, like, very liberal, supporting gay rights and whatnot. 1.00

01:36:41.660 But I asked her, okay, if you're a girl for rights for everyone and whatnot, that all this stupid shit, do you hate gypsies? 0.88

01:36:48.700 She's like, yeah, I hate them.

01:36:50.900 Yeah, that's the universal opinion.

01:36:57.220 I mean, you know, I don't know how deep there is to probe into this.

01:37:01.440 Most people know, I mean, what gypsies do. 0.76

01:37:04.100 I mean, they're nomadic criminal disruptors, you know, thieves famous for engaging in, you know, human trafficking, drug trafficking,

01:37:12.920 but petty crime as well, mostly, you know, and there, it's kind of, people have described gypsies as kind of, you know, low-rent Jews in that sense.

01:37:26.880 Yeah, I call them the stupid Jews. 1.00

01:37:31.760 Eventually, when the race war starts, you know, the gypsies aren't going to be an issue.

01:37:36.520 You know, they could get, they could, their entire population in most countries can get destroyed, you know,

01:37:42.260 in a matter of probably a couple of years or even less, because they're just, they can't congregate, they can't work together.

01:37:51.540 They're always fearful of when someone stands up to them, some kind of authority.

01:37:56.180 They just, they're very weak as a people because of all their inbreeding.

01:38:00.820 And, well, the Turks, you know, even though they did have a history of race mixing, especially during the Ottoman Empire,

01:38:10.200 just because of all the blood tax and janissaries and everything,

01:38:15.700 they are an actual threat because they can actually build weapons, hold weapons.

01:38:20.320 They have a huge army in Turkey.

01:38:23.780 They're, I think, the fourth biggest NATO army there.

01:38:28.400 And it's going to be a huge issue with them, especially right now,

01:38:32.260 when I can see that there's racial tensions, especially in the south, which I talked about earlier.

01:38:36.400 Why?

01:38:37.720 I do think that because during communism, we had the same issue,

01:38:41.780 but the communist government literally threw them out, like 300,000 of the Turks,

01:38:45.560 they got sent back to Turkey.

01:38:48.600 And issues are going to start there.

01:38:50.720 And I'm afraid because, partially afraid,

01:38:53.860 because I plan on enlisting as a reservist in the army that I'm going to be thrown as a cannon fodder

01:39:01.080 against these well-armed Turks in comparison to our stagnated army. 0.98

01:39:09.500 Yeah, that seems to be quite a real existential threat.

01:39:13.760 I can only imagine, I mean, it's the, what is the level of awareness of and recognition of the threat

01:39:25.220 from the organized Turkic populations of the country among the general population?

01:39:29.980 I don't think people recognize the threat at the moment,

01:39:33.780 but I do think people will start recognizing the threat.

01:39:36.920 You know, they see it as more of an issue on religion and whatnot,

01:39:39.600 because most people, of course, don't like Islam and whatnot.

01:39:43.540 But I think that they will see the issue once the Turks start getting properly violent, 1.00

01:39:48.360 like they did, like they had a terrorist organization during communist times.

01:39:52.340 And we're talking about communist times where they were,

01:39:54.820 all religion and all people were repressed.

01:39:57.940 And we had agents, you know, looking over and stopping these things.

01:40:04.640 So I do think that now in democracy, because democracy is a lot weaker

01:40:10.280 and these things that they, you know, advocate for their rights more than Bulgarian rights.

01:40:16.660 The problem is going to be very, very serious in the next 20 to 30 years.

01:40:23.480 At least this has a, this has the accelerationism aspect is the Turks are going to be much more violent 1.00

01:40:33.080 and we're going to have the situation where the people are going to wake up to the problems in the world much faster.

01:40:40.720 Then in like different countries, which don't have almost any minorities,

01:40:44.180 like in like the Baltic states, they almost don't have any non-white minorities.

01:40:49.200 They have problems with the Russians, like you talked in your Skidas podcast, I remember,

01:40:56.260 where they, I think Latvia, the country had like 25% Russians

01:41:00.300 and they take out almost all their problems on the Russian minority,

01:41:05.080 which it could be problematic, I assume, I don't live there.

01:41:09.640 And also I heard from an Estonian friend, which is here for the march as well,

01:41:13.940 that in Estonia they do a lot of problems as well, the small Russian minority.

01:41:18.140 Because I assume what the U.S. and Saudi government did is that they didn't send any good Russians.

01:41:25.140 They probably sent some Siberian criminals there. 0.98

01:41:28.360 So naturally their sons and daughters would be similar to them because blood is in water in the end.

01:41:34.740 Yeah, yeah, no, it is truly a precarious situation.

01:41:42.000 It wasn't something that had occurred to me, but now that you've said it,

01:41:44.760 I can imagine that the Turkish foreign policy must be extremely threatening 0.99

01:41:54.740 insofar as Erdogan is quite actively promoting the, you know, the organization,

01:42:01.120 the funding of radical militant elements, the proliferation of, you know,

01:42:06.100 the Turkey peoples in Europe as conquerors, you know, telling them to have six, seven children 1.00

01:42:10.200 and replace, you know, white Europeans.

01:42:12.700 I know that the birth rate in Bulgaria is very low.

01:42:18.120 Do you have a similar situation?

01:42:19.640 Yeah, one of the lowest in, I think, the whole world at the moment.

01:42:23.400 It's almost scary.

01:42:25.780 Just because even if you, and on top of that, you have a lot and a lot of people

01:42:29.800 moving towards Western Europe.

01:42:32.600 Just as a comparison, in the end of communism we had in 1989, I think it was, yeah,

01:42:39.180 we had about a little bit over, or a little bit under, I'm not totally sure, 8 million people.

01:42:47.160 Now we're 6.5, and those statistics aren't sure we could be less.

01:42:52.580 And you have on top of that a pretty big Turkish minority, one of the biggest in Europe,

01:42:58.260 and at the same time one of the biggest by percentage of the population,

01:43:03.340 a gypsy minority, which they have children like at the age of 11, 12, 10,

01:43:08.720 and they have, like, sometimes 10 to 20 children just to claim government benefits.

01:43:16.180 Yeah, that's, again, extremely, extremely typical of what we see in most of Europe.

01:43:22.120 And so the situation with the demographics is kind of mirrored.

01:43:25.560 There is a great demographic disparity between these minority populations.

01:43:29.320 Do you know what, like, how fruitful, how many children per woman that there is

01:43:35.780 among the Turkic and Islamic population?

01:43:37.520 I can only imagine it must be high.

01:43:40.080 It's very high, usually.

01:43:42.300 They do have a lot of children, from what I've noticed.

01:43:45.940 I actually used to have Turkish neighbors which moved to Spain.

01:43:49.560 They lived in an apartment right next to mine.

01:43:53.500 They had only about, like, three children.

01:43:56.600 Not all that much, more than the average Bulgarian has still. 1.00

01:44:01.760 But I did learn some of the things about, at the time, about Islam,

01:44:08.160 because I do think it's important to learn about these things.

01:44:13.060 At the same time, historically, it's interesting.

01:44:15.640 And at the same time, you must know your enemy to defeat your enemy.

01:44:19.540 They actually translated parts of the Quran to me and some things like that.

01:44:26.720 They weren't that bad of the people.

01:44:28.280 The Turks are not well known for doing crime in the country.

01:44:32.660 You know, the main crime in the country comes from all the gypsies. 1.00

01:44:35.660 Like, the black people in the U.S., they're literally 90% of the people in prisons right now.

01:44:44.460 Which, if any one of us, like a nationalist, goes to prison,

01:44:48.540 it will be a death sentence with all those gypsies there. 1.00

01:44:51.380 Because, if anything, gypsies alone aren't a threat.

01:44:54.280 But when you're one against 50 to 100 or even more,

01:44:58.220 you're going to get absolutely killed. 0.79

01:45:01.340 Yeah, that's a frightful possibility.

01:45:06.120 What is the level of persecution against nationalists by the government at the moment?

01:45:11.160 You said that there's been several attempts to ban the march,

01:45:14.300 but that the court has upheld your constitutional rights to demonstrate.

01:45:18.160 Have these persecutions come from the government, the regime, or from private actors?

01:45:25.940 Well, at the same time, different NGOs advocate for that stuff,

01:45:29.480 and it goes to propaganda to all the people in the country.

01:45:33.180 And they slowly start turning against these nationalist events as they grow larger.

01:45:38.260 And at the same time, you have the government advocating for it.

01:45:43.720 Last year, I think it was because Interpol reported for a non-luka march

01:45:47.600 that several Polish ultranationalists were inside of the country,

01:45:55.240 and that was advocated for to ban the march.

01:45:58.120 Even though these people, even if they were ultranationalists,

01:46:01.300 which I doubt from Poland that they would wave swastikas around

01:46:04.140 because of the history of Poland,

01:46:06.260 I doubt that these people would be active criminals if they traveled across Europe.

01:46:14.500 They didn't have a criminal record to keep them off international travel,

01:46:19.340 so that should not be enough to advocate for the ban of the march.

01:46:24.260 That year, they didn't get the support of the court as well,

01:46:28.420 so we continued the march.

01:46:30.340 Just we had to wait a long time so the police could,

01:46:34.160 because at the last moment, they had to clear the streets and everything,

01:46:37.980 cut off traffic.

01:46:38.700 And this year, they advocated for the ban of the march

01:46:41.800 because the starting point of the march was very close

01:46:44.500 to where the EU representatives this year are going to be hosted.

01:46:49.000 So we kindly accepted that thing,

01:46:53.280 and we proposed to the organizers of the march,

01:46:56.720 which is not our group.

01:46:58.000 It's a different group.

01:46:59.080 We call it the Bulgarian National Union.

01:47:00.480 They moved the march from a different starting point

01:47:04.780 and gave a new route,

01:47:06.760 which the government doesn't like that route.

01:47:09.680 They're supposedly...

01:47:12.580 What's the word here?

01:47:15.140 They have to give a new route.

01:47:18.540 If they're not happy with that,

01:47:19.640 then clear the streets.

01:47:20.440 That's a constitutional right,

01:47:22.260 and it's by law.

01:47:23.200 At the same time, law and constitution.

01:47:24.620 So it's in our right to hold the march

01:47:28.820 as long as we don't have any banned symbols during the march,

01:47:33.020 which that would be...

01:47:35.500 It should go, really, the march.

01:47:37.720 And we did win this year as well,

01:47:39.680 as the last year.

01:47:40.700 It's not only last year,

01:47:41.760 but the year before that,

01:47:42.780 and the year before that.

01:47:44.060 We were in court

01:47:44.800 because the courts still uphold some sort of law,

01:47:49.700 and if it's at the same time in the constitution

01:47:51.420 and the law codex,

01:47:53.240 they don't have a right.

01:47:54.620 Well, that's good to hear

01:47:56.980 that there's some level of law and order

01:47:58.820 that continues in that country.

01:48:00.180 I mean, what we're seeing in Western Europe

01:48:01.540 is increasingly that people don't care.

01:48:04.080 They will break the law,

01:48:05.240 and they will just do whatever they want

01:48:06.840 under the auspices of democracy.

01:48:09.480 And certainly, that's what we're...

01:48:10.240 Well, if they want to break the law,

01:48:12.760 it's...

01:48:13.620 Sorry for cutting you off.

01:48:14.720 If they want to break the law,

01:48:16.120 you know, they physically can't.

01:48:17.620 They need to change the law.

01:48:18.660 And even if they change the law,

01:48:20.620 you know, it's much harder

01:48:21.460 to change the constitution.

01:48:22.760 And they still haven't done that,

01:48:25.940 which is, I think, partially because you're lazy.

01:48:30.220 And if that happens, you know,

01:48:31.960 we still will try to continue with the march.

01:48:34.560 And when it eventually gets banned,

01:48:36.360 because I'm afraid it's going to be banned

01:48:38.400 at some point,

01:48:39.820 we...

01:48:40.560 I think that at least the nationalist scene

01:48:42.620 would open their eyes

01:48:43.800 and see that they can't just, like,

01:48:45.240 go by law and try to appease the government,

01:48:48.900 as Iron March advocated for.

01:48:50.860 You know, you can't appease the government forever.

01:48:52.780 You can try working with that for a while,

01:48:55.060 but eventually it would break down.

01:48:58.080 Yeah.

01:48:58.620 I mean, and we've seen...

01:48:59.980 We've seen this play out

01:49:02.000 really, really clearly before.

01:49:03.880 I mean, Codriano writes,

01:49:05.300 in Forma Legionnaire,

01:49:06.000 is a really good example

01:49:07.520 of kind of the interwar struggle in Romania,

01:49:09.480 where that's exactly what happened,

01:49:11.200 is that once things got to a fever pitch,

01:49:13.760 that the government just, you know,

01:49:16.700 just started killing people

01:49:17.700 and just shutting people down wholesale,

01:49:20.220 and you're not really left with many options

01:49:21.980 when that stayed a full tyranny emerges

01:49:25.120 against those who support

01:49:27.860 the rights and sovereignty

01:49:29.560 of the people with natural law and so on.

01:49:33.960 Let's see.

01:49:34.980 Are there any laws in Bulgaria?

01:49:37.540 Because, like, I know, for instance,

01:49:38.660 in the Czech Republic,

01:49:39.840 there are laws which make it illegal

01:49:41.540 to promote...

01:49:43.820 to agitate against democracy,

01:49:45.720 quite literally.

01:49:46.760 Are there similar laws in Bulgaria

01:49:48.280 where you're not allowed

01:49:48.980 to publicly agitate

01:49:49.880 against the democratic system?

01:49:53.260 Yes, but at the same time,

01:49:55.600 we go to a march for Lukov,

01:49:58.520 which actually was elected

01:50:00.860 as Minister of War at the time,

01:50:03.280 in the 30s, I believe.

01:50:05.100 So there's no problem against...

01:50:08.660 the organizers advocate for

01:50:10.380 that he was this and that

01:50:11.560 and this and that,

01:50:12.260 and they, of course,

01:50:13.080 don't support that,

01:50:13.900 and they publicly advocate against

01:50:15.320 with, like, I think it was called

01:50:18.220 a third path or a third way

01:50:20.000 type of thing.

01:50:21.460 But, yeah, he was elected,

01:50:25.400 so there's no problem

01:50:26.260 on the democratic side.

01:50:27.440 Yeah, I'm glad to hear that.

01:50:31.040 But, I mean, in general,

01:50:32.080 can you or your group

01:50:34.540 get in trouble

01:50:35.040 for disseminating propaganda,

01:50:36.400 which argues explicitly

01:50:37.560 against democracy

01:50:38.460 and that kind of thing?

01:50:41.500 We have a couple of law students

01:50:43.120 in the organization.

01:50:44.680 I've been studying law as well.

01:50:46.040 We're going to be checking things

01:50:47.220 as we do them,

01:50:48.000 but for the moment,

01:50:49.400 we're just working

01:50:50.220 with what we can.

01:50:51.100 And we're not going to be,

01:50:53.560 you know,

01:50:54.640 going against our own beliefs

01:50:58.380 and putting different information.

01:51:00.380 I believe if we can't say something,

01:51:02.460 that we're just going to be

01:51:03.780 completely,

01:51:05.220 at least publicly,

01:51:06.620 where people can see

01:51:07.560 all the information.

01:51:08.980 We're just going to keep

01:51:10.040 out of that

01:51:10.860 and not say nothing.

01:51:11.820 And when we talk

01:51:13.180 to people privately,

01:51:14.760 we're going to be sharing

01:51:15.800 all our views.

01:51:17.760 I believe that it's going to be

01:51:19.640 a proper course of action.

01:51:22.820 Right, right.

01:51:24.720 No, that seems prudent to me.

01:51:27.240 Are you optimistic

01:51:28.400 for the future

01:51:29.060 of Bulgarian nationalism?

01:51:31.540 Do you think that,

01:51:33.320 you know,

01:51:33.560 as things continue

01:51:34.300 to heat up in Europe,

01:51:35.240 do you think that there is

01:51:36.540 a great hope

01:51:37.820 for a revival

01:51:38.520 of the national feeling

01:51:39.580 and organization

01:51:40.240 among the Bulgars?

01:51:42.920 Not only that,

01:51:44.160 but I believe

01:51:45.240 that there can be,

01:51:46.220 there's a lot of potential here.

01:51:47.760 You know,

01:51:48.220 the Bulgarian National Union

01:51:49.260 is a very stagnant organization,

01:51:51.260 even though they're very good

01:51:52.480 in historically

01:51:54.920 what they've done.

01:51:56.020 They've created great marches

01:51:57.380 like Luke of March

01:51:58.100 and stuff like that.

01:51:58.900 They've brought,

01:51:59.660 they've published

01:52:00.240 a lot of books

01:52:00.880 on nationalism

01:52:01.640 and things like that.

01:52:03.420 Very interesting books

01:52:04.720 that were historically

01:52:07.560 not so accepted,

01:52:09.980 especially during communism.

01:52:11.380 I believe there was one book,

01:52:12.780 getting off track here,

01:52:16.300 there was one book

01:52:17.160 by a member

01:52:18.860 of the Ratniks, 0.77

01:52:19.960 which were the more radical types

01:52:21.600 of one of their most

01:52:22.720 founding members.

01:52:23.660 It was a woman,

01:52:25.100 a fascist woman 0.87

01:52:26.000 that's similar

01:52:26.900 to Savitri Devi,

01:52:27.860 but this time

01:52:28.400 with Orthodoxy,

01:52:29.120 published about Bulgarian history.

01:52:30.980 You know,

01:52:31.240 those books were still left

01:52:32.720 because of their significance

01:52:34.400 during communism.

01:52:35.420 They were highly redact.

01:52:37.840 They were changed up.

01:52:39.680 And nowadays,

01:52:40.240 I believe they published

01:52:42.080 the proper ones.

01:52:45.620 I think one was

01:52:46.500 The New Bulgarian Woman

01:52:48.980 is the best translation

01:52:50.460 I could do

01:52:51.020 off the top of my head

01:52:52.140 about, you know,

01:52:54.300 how women are supposed 1.00

01:52:55.380 to be a member of society

01:52:56.480 in our worldview.

01:52:58.540 Yeah, that's fantastic to hear.

01:53:00.520 That's excellent.

01:53:02.580 So, is there anything else

01:53:04.880 you want to touch on

01:53:06.280 before we cover

01:53:07.200 a couple of news stories?

01:53:08.220 Well, there's obviously

01:53:11.580 I forgot to mention earlier

01:53:12.660 that there's lots and lots

01:53:14.840 and lots of potential,

01:53:16.000 I believe,

01:53:16.380 to get members

01:53:17.060 because you have

01:53:17.760 all these national thinking people

01:53:19.440 going to huge events

01:53:21.220 that aren't directly members

01:53:22.480 of any organization.

01:53:23.920 You have huge marches

01:53:25.120 from 2,000 people

01:53:26.260 at the local march

01:53:27.140 upwards to 3,500 people

01:53:32.020 to the other march

01:53:33.540 for Vasilevsky,

01:53:35.760 which is,

01:53:36.440 you can see that there's

01:53:37.240 lots and lots

01:53:37.900 of potential

01:53:38.820 in the core population

01:53:40.680 for these sorts

01:53:41.440 of movements to exist.

01:53:43.720 So, I think

01:53:44.460 if our movement

01:53:45.120 brings something new

01:53:46.000 into the scene,

01:53:46.640 something fresh,

01:53:48.160 something that would

01:53:48.920 catch the eye,

01:53:49.760 be extravagant,

01:53:52.900 that we could

01:53:54.160 potentially get

01:53:55.420 a lot of members

01:53:57.560 to build nests

01:54:01.200 in different areas

01:54:02.000 of the country

01:54:02.560 in post-propaganda.

01:54:03.980 and I believe

01:54:06.160 we can do something

01:54:07.060 very interesting

01:54:09.500 because over the small time

01:54:11.220 that we've existed,

01:54:12.160 we've gotten

01:54:12.720 almost any proper funding

01:54:15.200 because we don't have

01:54:16.740 a lot of money

01:54:17.220 in this country.

01:54:18.340 We've gotten

01:54:18.840 what I believe

01:54:21.320 is a very decent amount

01:54:22.840 of membership

01:54:23.780 for the small amount

01:54:25.380 of things we've done

01:54:28.120 so far.

01:54:28.660 That's fantastic

01:54:30.360 to hear.

01:54:31.420 I'm sure

01:54:31.820 myself and all

01:54:33.600 of our listeners

01:54:34.020 are eager to see

01:54:35.260 the success

01:54:35.820 of the Bulgarian

01:54:36.440 national movement

01:54:37.120 or eager for

01:54:38.880 your inevitable

01:54:39.900 final victory

01:54:40.680 over our enemies.

01:54:42.220 And so we

01:54:42.680 are very,

01:54:43.780 very glad to have

01:54:44.460 had you on the show

01:54:45.800 and spoken to you

01:54:46.380 and had you explain

01:54:47.440 these things to us.

01:54:48.320 Certainly all this

01:54:49.120 information

01:54:49.580 is brand new to me

01:54:50.860 and I expect

01:54:51.600 for the vast majority

01:54:52.460 of our listeners

01:54:53.000 in the West in English,

01:54:55.000 wherever they might be.

01:54:55.780 It is also a fresh

01:54:58.480 and new

01:54:59.980 and interesting

01:55:00.560 episode and country

01:55:03.160 in our Brotherhood

01:55:05.760 of Nations in Europe

01:55:06.500 to discover and explore.

01:55:08.540 So we're going to go on

01:55:09.600 to Cali Yuga News

01:55:11.880 for the moment.

01:55:12.700 We've got a couple

01:55:13.280 of stories today

01:55:13.960 to go into

01:55:14.880 because I don't think

01:55:16.660 that you're at your

01:55:17.820 computer right now.

01:55:18.660 I'll present these stories

01:55:20.140 and read them out.

01:55:20.720 We'll say a few things.

01:55:22.460 Explain them.

01:55:22.980 I'm on the phone.

01:55:24.160 Okay, perfect.

01:55:24.840 So we're going to go

01:55:27.260 into these stories

01:55:28.260 this week are all,

01:55:29.460 well, I've got two

01:55:31.100 really triggering ones,

01:55:32.120 two really, really bad ones

01:55:33.100 and one quite fairly

01:55:34.880 all right.

01:55:36.520 So this one is from

01:55:37.820 LifeSiteNews.com.

01:55:40.560 It was published

01:55:42.160 two days ago.

01:55:43.980 Byline reads,

01:55:45.420 Christian parents

01:55:46.200 lose custody of daughter

01:55:47.560 after refusing to support

01:55:49.080 her, quote,

01:55:49.940 transition to male.

01:55:52.140 In Columbus, Ohio,

01:55:53.780 the government authorities

01:55:55.340 forced parents to give up

01:55:56.340 legal custody of their daughter

01:55:57.700 after the mother and father

01:55:59.080 said they opposed

01:55:59.840 the girl's decision

01:56:00.600 to identify as a boy

01:56:01.820 and transition to being male.

01:56:03.940 The Hamilton County

01:56:04.860 Job and Family Services

01:56:06.400 took legal custody

01:56:07.860 of the teenage girl,

01:56:09.080 17,

01:56:10.260 who,

01:56:10.740 according to court records,

01:56:12.140 suffers from gender dysphoria.

01:56:13.820 The teen is currently living

01:56:14.860 with her maternal grandparents.

01:56:16.520 Essentially,

01:56:17.260 the minor was diagnosed

01:56:18.120 with depression,

01:56:19.160 anxiety,

01:56:19.600 gender dysphoria

01:56:20.120 after being hospitalized

01:56:21.020 in 2016.

01:56:22.600 Doctors decided that

01:56:23.600 because she wants

01:56:24.700 to identify as a male,

01:56:26.080 she should be given

01:56:26.680 testosterone and sex change

01:56:28.600 drugs.

01:56:29.960 And the girl's parents

01:56:30.780 objected,

01:56:31.600 arguing that they did not

01:56:32.520 think that such treatment

01:56:33.200 was in her best interest.

01:56:35.980 And now they've appointed

01:56:37.500 a juvenile court judge

01:56:39.100 to determine if parental rights

01:56:40.360 for minors should be

01:56:41.280 entirely stripped.

01:56:42.340 Um,

01:56:44.580 yeah,

01:56:46.220 so there's,

01:56:47.060 there's,

01:56:47.840 we,

01:56:49.180 we have covered

01:56:49.920 this before on the,

01:56:51.460 on the show.

01:56:52.360 The legislation implements

01:56:53.980 such,

01:56:54.380 uh,

01:56:54.860 processes in,

01:56:55.660 in Canada.

01:56:56.580 Um,

01:56:56.920 but the fact that this

01:56:57.820 is actually happening,

01:56:59.600 I'm sure this is not

01:57:00.400 the first case,

01:57:01.060 frankly,

01:57:01.580 uh,

01:57:01.880 and I think it will continue,

01:57:02.960 is basically proof of,

01:57:05.000 of everything that we've

01:57:05.720 been saying,

01:57:06.140 that,

01:57:06.580 um,

01:57:06.880 these people,

01:57:08.680 our enemies,

01:57:09.320 the regime,

01:57:10.180 uh,

01:57:10.780 are going to,

01:57:11.960 um,

01:57:12.360 do everything they can

01:57:13.460 to destroy you, 0.96

01:57:14.280 and to,

01:57:15.100 uh,

01:57:15.460 destroy your children, 0.98

01:57:16.360 and they,

01:57:16.780 they think it's funny.

01:57:18.700 And so,

01:57:19.060 I,

01:57:19.320 I almost want these

01:57:21.340 faggots to exist here, 1.00

01:57:22.940 so we can beat

01:57:24.040 the living shit out of them.

01:57:25.380 That sounds absolutely

01:57:27.040 hilarious,

01:57:27.660 that the court will allow

01:57:28.880 such absolutely

01:57:30.720 disgusting things

01:57:31.940 to go around,

01:57:33.180 about literally,

01:57:34.340 uh,

01:57:35.060 what looks like

01:57:36.000 a mentally ill child. 0.72

01:57:38.740 Yeah,

01:57:39.360 well,

01:57:39.500 that's the thing,

01:57:40.100 is that in,

01:57:40.600 in North America

01:57:41.540 and in Canada,

01:57:42.140 people have become

01:57:43.500 so,

01:57:44.180 uh,

01:57:44.560 so pacified,

01:57:45.440 so desensitized,

01:57:46.320 that this kind of stuff

01:57:47.140 is,

01:57:47.440 is,

01:57:48.460 you know,

01:57:49.080 uh,

01:57:50.480 people don't,

01:57:51.220 people don't do anything.

01:57:52.260 And it's,

01:57:52.760 uh,

01:57:53.140 it's this kind of thing

01:57:53.840 when I,

01:57:54.220 when I talk about this

01:57:55.040 to,

01:57:55.800 you know,

01:57:56.140 people from,

01:57:56.800 from,

01:57:57.280 from Eastern Europe

01:57:57.880 and I say,

01:57:58.540 you know,

01:57:58.700 this is where

01:57:59.140 liberalism leads,

01:58:00.380 uh,

01:58:00.800 this is,

01:58:01.280 you know,

01:58:01.500 they almost can't believe it,

01:58:02.600 you know,

01:58:02.760 it's so,

01:58:03.660 it's so foreign 1.00

01:58:04.560 to,

01:58:05.060 uh,

01:58:05.280 to anything

01:58:05.740 that they have

01:58:06.260 any conception of.

01:58:07.600 I think that the thing

01:58:08.340 about these stories

01:58:09.020 is it's so,

01:58:09.980 um,

01:58:11.080 the,

01:58:11.640 the egregiousness

01:58:12.780 and the injustice

01:58:13.580 of it is so manifest

01:58:15.240 that,

01:58:16.180 uh,

01:58:17.160 there's,

01:58:17.660 it's difficult

01:58:18.180 to speak to it.

01:58:19.200 Um,

01:58:19.680 in this instance,

01:58:20.380 the girl is,

01:58:21.140 you know,

01:58:21.360 quite older,

01:58:22.100 but you could imagine

01:58:22.780 if you had,

01:58:23.820 you know,

01:58:24.040 a 14 or 15 year old,

01:58:25.760 you know,

01:58:26.140 child,

01:58:27.460 you know,

01:58:28.160 what are you supposed

01:58:28.720 to do

01:58:29.360 when the state

01:58:30.100 wants to come

01:58:31.100 and take your,

01:58:31.680 your children

01:58:32.080 away from you,

01:58:32.780 right?

01:58:33.220 I mean,

01:58:33.480 are you going to get

01:58:34.000 into a gunfight

01:58:34.860 with the,

01:58:35.560 uh,

01:58:35.780 with the authorities,

01:58:36.600 right,

01:58:36.800 that everybody gets

01:58:37.440 to go to prison?

01:58:38.500 Right?

01:58:39.140 Uh,

01:58:40.260 by,

01:58:40.740 by natural right,

01:58:41.680 it certainly would be

01:58:42.420 correct to defend yourself

01:58:43.440 and defend your children

01:58:44.240 from their unlawful

01:58:45.540 kidnapping and seizure

01:58:46.660 by the state authorities

01:58:47.780 in order to enable

01:58:48.680 the mental illness,

01:58:49.600 uh,

01:58:50.580 that your sons and daughters

01:58:52.460 may or may not,

01:58:53.200 may be suffering from.

01:58:54.060 It's certainly legitimate

01:58:55.280 to use force

01:58:56.440 to defend yourself

01:58:57.320 against state authorities

01:58:58.680 who are trying

01:58:59.540 to literally

01:59:00.160 give your children

01:59:01.420 hormone,

01:59:02.380 uh,

01:59:03.420 you know,

01:59:03.680 of the opposite sex 1.00

01:59:04.680 to destroy their,

01:59:05.480 their,

01:59:05.760 their endocrine system

01:59:06.840 and to,

01:59:07.220 to chop up

01:59:08.000 their genitals. 0.98

01:59:09.320 Um,

01:59:10.700 I mean,

01:59:11.640 it's all,

01:59:12.260 it's obvious

01:59:12.840 that this is unnatural

01:59:13.980 just if you look at it

01:59:15.520 from any sort of perspective

01:59:17.680 because you,

01:59:18.360 you can just look

01:59:19.160 at these competitions

01:59:20.160 where,

01:59:21.120 uh,

01:59:21.340 female competitions 0.99

01:59:22.300 where males,

01:59:23.300 uh,

01:59:23.560 acting.

01:59:23.980 and,

01:59:24.840 um,

01:59:25.940 it's obvious

01:59:26.860 that the male one,

01:59:28.020 even if he's taking

01:59:28.900 female hormones, 1.00

01:59:30.100 you know,

01:59:30.360 he's,

01:59:30.740 he's got much more

01:59:31.800 muscle mass,

01:59:32.580 stronger bones.

01:59:33.220 He's going to be lifting

01:59:34.020 more,

01:59:34.400 being stronger in general.

01:59:35.900 And you see all these

01:59:36.760 people winning

01:59:37.400 at all these competitions,

01:59:38.560 you know,

01:59:39.600 and you see the man

01:59:40.640 in a lifting competition,

01:59:42.580 you know,

01:59:42.860 he transitioned to a woman

01:59:44.980 supposedly,

01:59:45.620 like he looks like a man 0.59

01:59:46.900 and he beats

01:59:48.040 all of his competitors,

01:59:49.080 which is severely

01:59:50.440 unfair to all the women 1.00

01:59:51.560 competitors.

01:59:52.160 And they all look so

01:59:53.380 disappointed in it

01:59:55.740 because it's unfair to

01:59:57.180 them.

01:59:57.480 And even they understand

01:59:58.760 this once you are there

02:00:00.660 and you see the implications

02:00:03.080 that you really can't

02:00:04.560 change the gender. 0.77

02:00:05.520 It's,

02:00:05.860 uh,

02:00:06.460 it's obvious,

02:00:07.320 um,

02:00:08.860 especially in these

02:00:09.800 competitions that you

02:00:10.640 would see that this is

02:00:11.920 impossible and unnatural

02:00:13.280 and whatnot.

02:00:14.340 But I don't know.

02:00:18.140 We don't have these

02:00:19.320 things here.

02:00:19.920 I don't know how to even

02:00:21.100 compare it to our society.

02:00:23.280 That seems like,

02:00:24.260 uh,

02:00:26.200 a dystopian future.

02:00:27.820 Yeah,

02:00:27.940 that's how it is.

02:00:28.740 Uh,

02:00:29.160 and it's,

02:00:30.260 um,

02:00:31.120 again,

02:00:31.540 it's such a difficult

02:00:32.600 question to discuss

02:00:33.580 because similar things

02:00:35.240 have happened in,

02:00:35.900 in,

02:00:36.040 in Norway where,

02:00:37.940 I mean,

02:00:38.080 if you're a man with

02:00:38.820 any sort of,

02:00:39.520 um,

02:00:41.480 any sort of balls at all,

02:00:42.580 I mean,

02:00:42.980 it's so,

02:00:43.820 it's so,

02:00:46.140 like,

02:00:46.880 satanic and unnatural

02:00:48.060 and,

02:00:48.700 uh,

02:00:48.960 it violates the very

02:00:50.120 core principles

02:00:51.600 of natural law

02:00:53.100 that how do you,

02:00:54.400 like,

02:00:55.480 how,

02:00:55.940 how are you supposed

02:00:56.460 to deal with this?

02:00:57.200 This is my real question.

02:00:58.340 I mean,

02:00:58.540 if this kind of thing

02:00:59.120 happens to you,

02:01:00.200 uh,

02:01:00.520 and it might very well

02:01:01.280 might to somebody

02:01:01.860 who's listening to this

02:01:02.440 podcast in the future,

02:01:03.380 somebody you know,

02:01:04.640 when the state is coming

02:01:05.720 to take away

02:01:06.540 your children from you,

02:01:08.200 to kidnap your children,

02:01:09.960 um,

02:01:10.700 what are you supposed

02:01:11.820 to do?

02:01:12.520 I mean,

02:01:12.760 because if you're going

02:01:13.320 to use force to defend

02:01:14.300 yourself as you have

02:01:15.020 every right to,

02:01:15.800 you know,

02:01:16.140 you can't fight the state.

02:01:17.280 I mean,

02:01:18.060 they,

02:01:18.340 they'll either kill you

02:01:19.280 or they'll put you

02:01:20.040 in prison and then

02:01:20.820 your child will be

02:01:21.460 taken away from you

02:01:22.000 anyway,

02:01:22.960 right?

02:01:23.400 Well,

02:01:23.740 what I would advocate

02:01:25.180 for is,

02:01:26.300 uh,

02:01:26.980 in these extreme

02:01:27.940 situations,

02:01:28.780 uh,

02:01:29.380 similar to what,

02:01:30.860 uh,

02:01:32.400 uh,

02:01:33.580 to what Barb Vickern

02:01:34.660 has said,

02:01:35.220 like,

02:01:35.600 is one of his

02:01:36.340 non-autistic ones,

02:01:38.100 is that,

02:01:38.740 uh,

02:01:38.940 we need to move

02:01:40.160 out of a direct

02:01:41.400 society because

02:01:42.320 when you see you

02:01:43.040 are surrounded

02:01:44.240 by this culture

02:01:45.280 and your child

02:01:45.920 is looking at TV

02:01:46.900 and,

02:01:47.400 uh,

02:01:47.420 the internet

02:01:47.900 is going to grow up

02:01:49.440 in,

02:01:49.740 uh,

02:01:49.900 like the society

02:01:50.740 around them

02:01:51.260 and you can

02:01:51.760 catch on these

02:01:52.660 mental illnesses

02:01:53.320 and they need

02:01:54.880 to move away

02:01:56.200 from society

02:01:56.900 in some cases

02:01:57.580 and build some

02:01:58.120 sort of community

02:01:58.940 where people

02:01:59.580 advocate for the

02:02:01.200 same views

02:02:01.800 or similar views

02:02:02.740 so they can,

02:02:03.440 the children can grow

02:02:04.260 up at least

02:02:05.820 decent.

02:02:06.300 um,

02:02:08.720 I know one

02:02:09.880 of our members

02:02:10.440 of our organization

02:02:11.180 might be facing

02:02:12.000 these problems

02:02:12.740 directly because

02:02:13.700 he has,

02:02:14.760 uh,

02:02:15.380 he has children

02:02:16.060 so,

02:02:16.960 uh,

02:02:18.560 they,

02:02:18.920 growing up

02:02:19.420 would be

02:02:19.960 an issue

02:02:20.900 in this society

02:02:21.700 but he lives

02:02:22.460 in a rural area

02:02:23.400 so he can,

02:02:24.980 uh,

02:02:25.260 stay away

02:02:25.920 partially from

02:02:26.700 those things.

02:02:27.320 He has a garden,

02:02:28.400 he lives in a

02:02:29.120 small house.

02:02:30.060 I don't know

02:02:30.700 if he watches

02:02:31.320 any animals.

02:02:31.940 Yeah,

02:02:36.480 it's,

02:02:37.100 it's,

02:02:37.580 uh,

02:02:37.900 great difficulty.

02:02:38.700 I mean,

02:02:39.040 the only option

02:02:39.880 really would seem

02:02:42.060 to be to,

02:02:42.800 you know,

02:02:43.480 I mean,

02:02:44.420 maybe you could

02:02:44.960 flee your country. 0.99

02:02:46.000 I mean,

02:02:46.260 there's,

02:02:46.740 you know,

02:02:48.020 um,

02:02:48.540 but yeah,

02:02:48.900 there's not,

02:02:49.500 there's not a whole

02:02:50.040 lot to say aside

02:02:50.780 from that.

02:02:51.400 One can only hope

02:02:52.260 that this kind

02:02:52.660 of stuff,

02:02:53.000 uh,

02:02:53.220 radicalizes,

02:02:54.080 um,

02:02:54.320 any,

02:02:54.560 anybody who has

02:02:55.240 any sort of

02:02:55.700 sense of normality,

02:02:56.480 um,

02:02:57.980 because,

02:02:58.440 I mean,

02:02:59.760 we can hope

02:03:00.320 that for,

02:03:00.900 for,

02:03:01.640 uh,

02:03:02.800 I wonder,

02:03:03.380 you know,

02:03:03.580 I wonder to what

02:03:04.120 degree,

02:03:04.500 like if,

02:03:04.980 you know,

02:03:05.100 people in Eastern

02:03:05.700 Europe really

02:03:06.140 thought that this

02:03:06.720 was the future

02:03:07.380 that they were

02:03:07.820 going to have,

02:03:08.400 if they could

02:03:08.700 see this clearly,

02:03:09.340 if they were

02:03:09.600 exposed to this,

02:03:10.760 you know,

02:03:10.960 how many of them

02:03:11.740 would,

02:03:12.100 uh,

02:03:12.280 would support

02:03:12.800 liberalism,

02:03:14.500 liberal democracy?

02:03:15.260 It's like if you

02:03:16.120 showed the,

02:03:16.700 the soldiers of D-Day,

02:03:18.520 you know,

02:03:18.880 you showed the

02:03:19.540 future of America,

02:03:20.520 they would all,

02:03:21.200 like,

02:03:21.320 join the Germans, 0.64

02:03:22.800 most likely.

02:03:24.000 Uh,

02:03:24.240 it's the same

02:03:24.700 situation here.

02:03:25.460 If all the people

02:03:26.560 get a flash

02:03:27.960 of some sort

02:03:28.940 of realization

02:03:29.720 of what holds

02:03:30.680 their children

02:03:31.220 and what holds

02:03:31.940 their history,

02:03:33.360 you know,

02:03:33.700 I think that they

02:03:34.460 would,

02:03:34.820 uh,

02:03:35.680 they would stand

02:03:36.460 up at least

02:03:37.300 a decent amount.

02:03:39.920 Yeah,

02:03:40.660 I agree.

02:03:41.800 Anyway,

02:03:42.280 it's a sober

02:03:43.200 warning of the

02:03:44.080 persecution to come.

02:03:45.360 And,

02:03:45.560 uh,

02:03:45.860 the article goes

02:03:46.900 on to specify

02:03:47.440 that this is

02:03:47.920 almost entirely

02:03:48.580 because this

02:03:49.820 dude is like

02:03:50.660 a Catholic,

02:03:51.360 a hardcore

02:03:51.720 Catholic,

02:03:52.560 and,

02:03:52.820 you know,

02:03:52.880 he's unwilling

02:03:53.500 to make any

02:03:54.020 compromise,

02:03:54.940 uh,

02:03:55.320 to mental

02:03:55.760 illness because,

02:03:56.920 uh,

02:03:57.460 it's insane,

02:03:58.420 basically.

02:03:59.480 And so,

02:04:00.140 the,

02:04:00.440 uh,

02:04:00.720 the state

02:04:01.120 is literally

02:04:01.580 arguing that,

02:04:02.500 you know,

02:04:02.820 he's engaging

02:04:03.280 in this

02:04:03.580 religiously

02:04:04.060 motivated child

02:04:04.780 abuse because

02:04:05.660 he refuses

02:04:06.180 to allow

02:04:06.780 his mentally

02:04:07.280 ill daughter

02:04:07.800 to mutilate

02:04:08.900 her genitals 0.98

02:04:09.460 and her

02:04:09.760 endocrine

02:04:10.160 system,

02:04:10.920 uh,

02:04:11.300 with the

02:04:11.700 aid of

02:04:11.980 the state.

02:04:13.200 Um,

02:04:13.860 we're going

02:04:14.380 to go on

02:04:14.680 and we're

02:04:14.860 going to,

02:04:15.120 we're going

02:04:15.340 to go right

02:04:16.180 from one

02:04:16.740 level of

02:04:17.360 triggering

02:04:17.700 unnatural

02:04:18.220 behavior

02:04:19.220 into another.

02:04:20.420 This is

02:04:20.740 from the

02:04:21.060 New York

02:04:21.380 Times.

02:04:22.260 This is,

02:04:23.340 the headline

02:04:23.840 reads,

02:04:24.200 Transgender

02:04:26.140 Woman 0.99

02:04:26.500 Breastfeeds

02:04:27.400 Baby

02:04:27.800 After

02:04:28.260 Hospital

02:04:28.820 Induces

02:04:29.540 Lactation.

02:04:32.200 Okay.

02:04:32.720 when,

02:04:33.780 now,

02:04:34.560 for those

02:04:35.020 of our

02:04:35.340 listeners,

02:04:35.700 I'm looking

02:04:36.220 at the

02:04:36.500 article here

02:04:37.100 and literally

02:04:37.740 at the top

02:04:38.800 of this

02:04:39.020 article,

02:04:39.560 they have

02:04:39.900 these pictures

02:04:40.340 of these

02:04:40.700 two

02:04:41.240 quote unquote

02:04:42.580 doctors.

02:04:43.600 The study's

02:04:44.160 authors,

02:04:45.180 Zill Goldstein

02:04:46.700 on the left

02:04:47.500 and nurse

02:04:48.000 practitioner

02:04:48.500 and Dr.

02:04:49.460 Tamar

02:04:49.960 Reisman

02:04:50.800 of the

02:04:51.320 Mount

02:04:51.560 Sinai

02:04:52.080 Center

02:04:52.360 for

02:04:52.580 Transgender

02:04:53.120 Medicine

02:04:53.560 in New

02:04:54.040 York

02:04:54.320 are responsible

02:04:55.240 for this

02:04:56.200 latest,

02:04:56.860 uh,

02:04:57.940 assault

02:04:58.440 on the

02:04:59.000 law of

02:04:59.440 God

02:04:59.820 and all

02:05:01.620 that is

02:05:01.940 good and

02:05:02.280 holy in

02:05:03.140 our,

02:05:03.360 uh,

02:05:03.800 rapidly

02:05:04.260 disintegrating,

02:05:05.080 uh,

02:05:05.520 society.

02:05:07.020 When a

02:05:07.660 transgender woman

02:05:08.320 told doctors

02:05:09.040 at a hospital

02:05:09.680 in New

02:05:10.060 York that

02:05:10.460 she wanted

02:05:10.780 to breast 0.92

02:05:11.220 freed her

02:05:12.240 pregnant 0.80

02:05:12.700 partner's

02:05:13.380 baby,

02:05:13.700 they put

02:05:14.480 her on a

02:05:14.980 regimen of

02:05:15.680 drugs that

02:05:16.320 induced,

02:05:17.200 included an

02:05:18.040 anti-nausea

02:05:18.860 medication,

02:05:19.720 licensed in

02:05:20.380 Britain and

02:05:20.780 Canada,

02:05:21.180 but banned

02:05:21.700 in the

02:05:22.000 United States.

02:05:23.480 Within a

02:05:23.880 month,

02:05:24.140 according to

02:05:24.500 the journal

02:05:24.840 Transgender

02:05:25.380 Health,

02:05:25.820 oh my

02:05:26.500 God,

02:05:26.880 this is

02:05:28.140 a,

02:05:28.400 like an

02:05:28.640 oxymoronic,

02:05:29.640 uh,

02:05:30.140 yeah,

02:05:30.420 it's an

02:05:30.760 oxymoron,

02:05:31.520 there's no

02:05:31.840 Transgender

02:05:32.320 health,

02:05:32.880 it's like,

02:05:33.280 it's like

02:05:34.900 a chair that

02:05:35.600 you,

02:05:35.920 uh,

02:05:36.580 levitate

02:05:37.040 on.

02:05:37.700 Yeah,

02:05:37.980 indeed.

02:05:38.900 The quote

02:05:39.620 unquote

02:05:39.920 woman, 1.00

02:05:40.580 30,

02:05:41.000 he was born

02:05:41.500 male,

02:05:42.160 was producing

02:05:42.800 droplets of

02:05:43.500 milk.

02:05:43.860 Within three

02:05:44.360 months,

02:05:44.720 two weeks

02:05:45.040 before the

02:05:45.460 baby's due

02:05:45.880 date,

02:05:46.600 she increased

02:05:47.280 her production

02:05:47.800 to eight

02:05:48.140 ounces of

02:05:48.620 milk a

02:05:48.960 day.

02:05:49.460 I can

02:05:49.680 almost,

02:05:50.100 it's almost

02:05:50.620 difficult to

02:05:51.080 read this,

02:05:51.460 it's like a

02:05:51.780 horror,

02:05:52.080 it's like

02:05:53.860 some bad

02:05:54.240 scientist,

02:05:54.920 you know,

02:05:55.880 science fiction

02:05:56.500 here.

02:05:57.960 In the end,

02:05:58.580 the study showed

02:05:59.180 she was able

02:05:59.760 to achieve

02:06:00.220 sufficient

02:06:00.740 breast milk

02:06:01.260 volume to

02:06:02.000 be the

02:06:02.260 sole source

02:06:02.680 of nourishment

02:06:03.140 for her

02:06:03.580 child for

02:06:04.160 six weeks,

02:06:04.760 according to

02:06:05.200 the journal.

02:06:06.280 These two

02:06:06.920 Jewish

02:06:07.540 researchers

02:06:08.380 say that

02:06:09.800 the case

02:06:10.140 illustrates in

02:06:10.720 some circumstances

02:06:11.460 modest but

02:06:12.680 functional

02:06:13.080 lactation

02:06:13.720 can be

02:06:14.700 induced.

02:06:15.000 I don't,

02:06:15.340 you know,

02:06:15.500 I'm not even

02:06:15.800 going to go

02:06:16.120 on here.

02:06:17.580 Oh my

02:06:18.000 God.

02:06:19.980 You know,

02:06:20.580 these processes

02:06:21.300 are so

02:06:22.300 so big

02:06:24.680 in the

02:06:25.160 Western

02:06:25.460 countries

02:06:25.960 and induced

02:06:27.260 by these

02:06:27.780 Jews,

02:06:28.200 it almost

02:06:29.260 works against

02:06:30.140 them at the

02:06:30.580 same time

02:06:30.980 because you

02:06:31.400 see in

02:06:31.720 Israel,

02:06:32.280 they have

02:06:32.580 one of the

02:06:32.980 biggest

02:06:33.320 gay graves 1.00

02:06:34.240 in the

02:06:34.480 whole fucking

02:06:34.900 world.

02:06:36.180 And if

02:06:37.040 they advocate

02:06:37.580 for this

02:06:38.020 in your

02:06:38.300 society,

02:06:38.900 it affects

02:06:39.240 theirs as

02:06:39.880 well.

02:06:40.740 And I

02:06:42.140 do think

02:06:42.560 that degradation

02:06:43.100 of their

02:06:43.640 society is

02:06:44.380 imminent as

02:06:45.060 just Western

02:06:46.180 societies as

02:06:47.140 well.

02:06:47.740 Slightly

02:06:48.140 slower maybe,

02:06:49.080 but you

02:06:50.060 could see

02:06:50.540 that this

02:06:50.940 would affect

02:06:52.020 them and

02:06:52.600 eventually

02:06:53.200 lead to

02:06:54.440 do maybe

02:06:55.320 a similar

02:06:55.840 destruction

02:06:56.420 process to

02:06:58.620 what it

02:06:59.020 leads in

02:06:59.420 Western Europe.

02:07:00.500 And also

02:07:00.840 I would like

02:07:01.220 to add that

02:07:01.760 these processes

02:07:03.160 would continue

02:07:03.820 in Canada

02:07:04.680 and similar

02:07:05.640 countries as

02:07:06.600 long as you

02:07:06.980 have sore

02:07:07.420 boys like 0.59

02:07:07.860 Justin Trudeau

02:07:08.540 leading your

02:07:09.080 country.

02:07:10.260 Yeah,

02:07:10.920 indeed.

02:07:11.240 When the

02:07:11.460 pastured

02:07:11.860 children of

02:07:12.320 Fidel Castro

02:07:12.960 run your

02:07:13.680 country,

02:07:14.320 you know

02:07:15.540 things have

02:07:15.940 gotten bad.

02:07:17.860 there's so

02:07:21.600 many ways

02:07:22.380 to go

02:07:22.600 into it.

02:07:22.980 I mean,

02:07:23.120 we've been

02:07:23.420 talking a

02:07:23.940 lot about

02:07:24.320 this on

02:07:24.740 the program.

02:07:25.880 We've

02:07:26.020 covered this

02:07:26.420 for some

02:07:26.800 time,

02:07:27.500 both the

02:07:28.060 issue

02:07:28.400 transgenderism,

02:07:29.540 but also

02:07:29.960 it gets

02:07:30.500 more

02:07:31.340 intensely

02:07:32.540 at the

02:07:32.980 question of

02:07:33.420 transhumanism,

02:07:34.520 right?

02:07:35.080 Where any

02:07:37.040 scientific

02:07:37.840 process or

02:07:38.540 modification

02:07:38.940 of the

02:07:39.620 human form

02:07:40.180 is considered

02:07:40.600 to be

02:07:40.920 legitimate

02:07:41.340 so long

02:07:41.940 as it

02:07:42.220 brings you

02:07:42.640 into line

02:07:45.400 with your

02:07:45.740 perceived

02:07:46.500 identity.

02:07:50.040 And so

02:07:50.220 it almost

02:07:52.220 again with

02:07:55.420 these

02:07:55.600 Kelly Yogan

02:07:56.040 news stories,

02:07:56.760 they're so

02:07:57.400 disgusting and

02:07:58.900 horrifying for

02:07:59.660 those with any

02:08:00.240 basic sense of

02:08:01.340 natural law,

02:08:02.400 right and wrong,

02:08:03.080 any kind of

02:08:03.420 moral compass,

02:08:04.480 that you have

02:08:05.340 a mentally 0.50

02:08:06.700 ill and

02:08:07.380 mutilated man 0.85

02:08:08.260 who has been

02:08:08.860 artificially

02:08:09.760 producing

02:08:13.240 breast milk

02:08:14.940 lactation

02:08:15.500 through the

02:08:15.820 use of

02:08:16.240 hormones

02:08:16.920 prescribed at

02:08:17.520 the hands

02:08:17.920 of a Jewish

02:08:18.320 doctor,

02:08:18.800 Jewish doctors.

02:08:19.900 It's just

02:08:20.440 like,

02:08:21.020 you know,

02:08:21.960 I mean,

02:08:22.160 it's like some

02:08:22.560 sort of

02:08:23.000 fan fiction

02:08:23.780 on pole

02:08:24.640 or something

02:08:25.220 like that.

02:08:26.520 Like in

02:08:27.160 the 50s

02:08:28.480 and prior

02:08:29.460 and probably

02:08:29.980 the 60s,

02:08:30.760 this would

02:08:31.320 qualify as a

02:08:32.540 horror book,

02:08:33.560 like a horror

02:08:34.160 flick or maybe

02:08:34.920 a movie or

02:08:35.520 something,

02:08:35.840 I don't know.

02:08:36.660 I mean,

02:08:37.040 it's just

02:08:37.320 exactly,

02:08:37.860 I mean,

02:08:38.100 you can't

02:08:38.660 even,

02:08:38.980 you can't

02:08:39.260 even,

02:08:39.760 describe like

02:08:40.980 the level

02:08:41.440 of,

02:08:42.120 I mean,

02:08:42.520 even 20

02:08:44.240 years ago,

02:08:45.020 I mean,

02:08:45.300 this would

02:08:45.560 have been,

02:08:46.000 you know,

02:08:46.280 outrageous and

02:08:47.020 shocking.

02:08:47.520 This would

02:08:47.700 have been

02:08:47.900 considered to

02:08:48.420 be abuse.

02:08:51.600 What's

02:08:52.040 scary that

02:08:53.060 in the

02:08:54.260 beginning of,

02:08:54.900 you know,

02:08:55.340 the communist

02:08:55.800 movement,

02:08:56.580 a lot of

02:08:56.920 these things

02:08:57.400 were advocated

02:08:58.380 for like gay

02:08:59.100 rights and

02:08:59.560 stuff,

02:08:59.840 I believe,

02:09:00.260 during Lenin.

02:09:02.180 If that had

02:09:02.900 continued and

02:09:03.780 Stalinism then

02:09:05.380 came in,

02:09:06.220 you know,

02:09:06.740 it was worse

02:09:07.740 in a different

02:09:08.280 kind of

02:09:08.840 light,

02:09:10.980 it would

02:09:11.520 have been

02:09:11.940 much more

02:09:12.820 worse in

02:09:14.100 Eastern Europe

02:09:15.020 because they

02:09:15.620 would have

02:09:15.900 state advocated

02:09:17.140 for these

02:09:17.560 things.

02:09:18.240 But when

02:09:18.680 they saw

02:09:19.100 that these

02:09:19.420 things,

02:09:20.060 Stalin saw 0.89

02:09:20.560 obviously,

02:09:21.240 these things

02:09:21.700 didn't work

02:09:22.320 and Saudi

02:09:22.980 would

02:09:23.240 intimately

02:09:23.600 collapse

02:09:24.120 and he

02:09:24.420 wanted,

02:09:25.260 he was a

02:09:25.700 different kind,

02:09:26.360 he wanted

02:09:26.700 authority and

02:09:27.600 the state

02:09:28.100 to be

02:09:28.560 powerful,

02:09:29.240 that he

02:09:32.200 removed these

02:09:32.740 things and

02:09:33.120 actually added

02:09:33.780 similar

02:09:34.280 nationalist

02:09:34.820 elements,

02:09:35.420 you know,

02:09:35.660 proud figures

02:09:36.420 of the

02:09:36.720 communist

02:09:37.100 men fighting

02:09:38.060 the evil

02:09:38.760 fascists,

02:09:39.440 you know,

02:09:40.160 a lot of

02:09:41.120 the statues,

02:09:41.940 especially in

02:09:42.860 Volgogrodna,

02:09:44.320 which was

02:09:45.000 with Stalingrad,

02:09:46.660 you have

02:09:47.340 the giant

02:09:48.240 statues of

02:09:48.960 the beautiful

02:09:49.420 woman holding

02:09:50.120 the sword,

02:09:50.920 and at the

02:09:51.660 same time

02:09:52.160 you have

02:09:52.540 down,

02:09:53.800 you have

02:09:54.140 communist

02:09:55.060 soldiers from

02:09:55.920 the Soviet

02:09:56.420 times,

02:09:58.000 they thought

02:09:58.400 in Stalingrad,

02:09:59.300 they have

02:09:59.880 the most

02:10:00.620 aerial features

02:10:01.480 which you

02:10:01.900 can imagine

02:10:02.480 as absolutely

02:10:03.480 square face

02:10:04.580 and whatnot,

02:10:05.820 like what you

02:10:06.360 would see on

02:10:06.860 German propaganda,

02:10:08.180 they advocated

02:10:08.860 for these things

02:10:09.460 to make people,

02:10:11.100 to make the

02:10:12.060 state stronger,

02:10:13.340 which in

02:10:14.640 some senses

02:10:15.200 was good,

02:10:15.920 but in the

02:10:16.660 end it

02:10:17.440 made people

02:10:17.940 stronger in

02:10:18.680 support of

02:10:19.340 communism,

02:10:20.100 so it's

02:10:21.280 a devil of

02:10:21.880 sword in

02:10:22.480 that sense.

02:10:23.380 Yeah,

02:10:23.600 exactly,

02:10:24.400 I mean,

02:10:24.780 it's,

02:10:25.280 whereas these

02:10:26.580 policies are

02:10:27.160 just degenerative,

02:10:29.640 I guess the

02:10:30.380 thing is,

02:10:30.840 is that

02:10:31.200 one could only

02:10:33.640 hope that

02:10:34.220 because there

02:10:34.820 is,

02:10:35.340 you know,

02:10:35.780 you have

02:10:36.240 the advanced

02:10:37.240 decay here

02:10:39.200 in the

02:10:40.140 West,

02:10:40.600 that this

02:10:40.900 serves as

02:10:41.300 some sort

02:10:41.700 of example

02:10:42.220 to the

02:10:42.800 rest of

02:10:43.060 the world

02:10:43.440 what not

02:10:44.360 to do,

02:10:45.220 really,

02:10:47.260 because it's

02:10:48.480 just,

02:10:49.040 you know,

02:10:50.120 things are

02:10:50.420 not going

02:10:50.700 to go

02:10:50.900 backwards,

02:10:51.340 there's not

02:10:51.640 a,

02:10:52.080 you know,

02:10:52.260 when people

02:10:52.660 read stuff,

02:10:53.180 like there's

02:10:53.340 not riots,

02:10:54.200 there's not

02:10:54.740 mass demonstration

02:10:55.720 or protest

02:10:56.260 against this,

02:10:57.040 against this

02:10:58.540 kind of thing,

02:10:58.960 people don't

02:10:59.420 have their

02:10:59.720 medical licenses

02:11:00.500 revoked,

02:11:01.260 there's not,

02:11:02.000 you know,

02:11:04.200 the New York

02:11:05.020 Times isn't

02:11:05.920 slammed for

02:11:06.780 covering this

02:11:07.300 in a popular

02:11:08.940 light,

02:11:09.440 you know,

02:11:09.600 we know that

02:11:10.200 the New York

02:11:10.540 Times is

02:11:10.920 essentially

02:11:11.300 front of

02:11:12.680 Western,

02:11:12.940 the Jew

02:11:13.280 York,

02:11:13.800 yeah,

02:11:14.200 the Jew

02:11:15.400 York Times,

02:11:16.240 you know,

02:11:16.480 front of,

02:11:17.200 you know,

02:11:18.040 Anglo,

02:11:18.660 American,

02:11:19.040 Zionist, 0.80

02:11:19.740 establishment,

02:11:20.400 you know,

02:11:22.460 oligarchs,

02:11:23.180 money,

02:11:23.440 power,

02:11:23.840 and so on,

02:11:24.440 intelligence

02:11:24.840 agencies,

02:11:25.500 they all

02:11:25.780 work together,

02:11:26.200 this is the

02:11:26.580 regime basically,

02:11:27.620 speaking to you

02:11:28.260 here,

02:11:28.820 this is what

02:11:29.220 the regime

02:11:29.680 wants,

02:11:30.880 you know,

02:11:33.100 and so you

02:11:33.660 have literally

02:11:34.300 on the one

02:11:34.860 hand,

02:11:35.200 you have

02:11:35.680 these

02:11:36.460 transgender,

02:11:38.780 these mentally 0.57

02:11:39.660 ill people

02:11:40.720 who are

02:11:41.740 given all

02:11:42.620 the support

02:11:43.140 in order to

02:11:43.680 modify their

02:11:44.320 bodies,

02:11:45.280 in order to

02:11:46.180 simulate in a

02:11:47.460 gross and

02:11:48.360 just morbid

02:11:51.000 and twisted

02:11:51.580 fashion,

02:11:52.640 the functioning

02:11:53.320 of a,

02:11:53.820 functions of a

02:11:54.460 regular healthy

02:11:55.140 relationship,

02:11:55.920 and then you

02:11:56.400 have the

02:11:56.860 purposeful

02:11:57.380 oppression and

02:11:58.240 breakup of

02:11:59.080 said regular

02:12:00.200 healthy family

02:12:01.820 units by the

02:12:02.620 part of the

02:12:02.980 state in the

02:12:03.720 previous article.

02:12:04.800 So,

02:12:05.940 it's just,

02:12:06.860 you know,

02:12:09.860 the thing,

02:12:12.020 there's not,

02:12:12.540 when you get to

02:12:13.500 the point where

02:12:13.980 this is what's

02:12:14.520 going on,

02:12:15.160 and people just,

02:12:16.340 you know,

02:12:17.060 they shrug their

02:12:17.560 shoulders,

02:12:17.820 what can you

02:12:18.640 do?

02:12:19.140 Because that's

02:12:20.300 very,

02:12:21.320 that's because

02:12:21.780 it's gradual.

02:12:22.860 If it was a

02:12:23.660 very radical

02:12:24.400 change of

02:12:25.020 things,

02:12:26.420 like you would

02:12:27.300 have at the

02:12:27.840 start of the,

02:12:28.700 just before the

02:12:30.000 race war,

02:12:30.660 you know,

02:12:30.960 people would

02:12:31.420 change their

02:12:31.880 mind.

02:12:32.820 But as long

02:12:33.520 as these

02:12:34.020 situations

02:12:35.160 continue in

02:12:36.060 the race war,

02:12:37.140 if the race war

02:12:37.900 gets passed by,

02:12:39.080 which I don't

02:12:39.480 believe it will,

02:12:41.940 you know,

02:12:42.740 people won't

02:12:43.460 open their eyes

02:12:44.380 unless these

02:12:45.200 things happen

02:12:46.060 naturally and

02:12:47.500 gradual.

02:12:50.980 In a biblical

02:12:51.860 sense,

02:12:52.360 I believe,

02:12:53.580 I'm not totally

02:12:54.320 sure how that

02:12:54.900 would stand,

02:12:56.200 but,

02:12:56.520 with any

02:12:58.400 typical belief,

02:12:59.280 but,

02:12:59.820 you know,

02:13:00.360 God destroyed

02:13:01.240 Saddam and

02:13:01.800 Gomorrah for

02:13:02.560 these sorts of

02:13:03.280 behaviors.

02:13:04.680 So,

02:13:05.280 why would he

02:13:06.960 not,

02:13:07.400 why would it

02:13:08.620 not be a

02:13:09.160 similar situation

02:13:10.060 in our

02:13:11.620 modern societies?

02:13:12.640 reasons?

02:13:15.060 Yeah,

02:13:15.540 indeed.

02:13:16.400 Absolutely.

02:13:17.460 Absolutely.

02:13:18.260 You know,

02:13:19.100 cum-friendly

02:13:20.940 bombs,

02:13:22.240 as a

02:13:22.620 monk friend

02:13:22.980 of mine

02:13:23.300 said.

02:13:26.900 Okay,

02:13:27.380 well,

02:13:27.500 we're going to

02:13:27.740 go to one

02:13:28.060 last story

02:13:29.500 before we

02:13:30.340 wrap things

02:13:31.060 up here.

02:13:31.800 This is kind

02:13:32.340 of a good

02:13:33.240 story.

02:13:36.500 This is in

02:13:37.180 relationship.

02:13:37.640 Are you sure

02:13:38.040 it's good or

02:13:38.540 not?

02:13:39.000 Are you sure

02:13:39.420 it's bad?

02:13:39.880 Well,

02:13:40.980 you know,

02:13:42.100 we'll see.

02:13:44.240 This is from

02:13:44.840 the Daily

02:13:45.160 Caller.

02:13:47.580 Attorney

02:13:48.180 General of

02:13:48.780 the United

02:13:48.980 States of

02:13:49.380 America,

02:13:49.780 Jeff Sessions

02:13:50.280 orders immediate

02:13:51.200 review of

02:13:51.840 FBI while

02:13:52.620 Florida governor

02:13:53.220 calls for

02:13:53.860 Director

02:13:54.280 Ray's

02:13:54.640 resignation.

02:13:56.060 Attorney

02:13:56.300 General Jeff

02:13:56.960 Sessions

02:13:57.280 ordered Deputy

02:13:58.480 Attorney

02:13:58.800 General Rod

02:13:59.760 Rosensteed to

02:14:01.100 conduct an

02:14:01.580 immediate review

02:14:02.340 of both the

02:14:03.120 Justice

02:14:03.460 Department and

02:14:04.840 the FBI

02:14:05.700 Friday,

02:14:06.720 that is to

02:14:07.100 say today.

02:14:08.760 Sessions

02:14:09.000 referenced the

02:14:09.600 new revelations

02:14:10.260 into the

02:14:10.640 FBI's

02:14:11.100 mishandling of

02:14:11.780 tips on the

02:14:12.420 suspected

02:14:12.960 Douglas High

02:14:14.680 School shooter

02:14:15.220 Nicholas Cruz,

02:14:16.960 which he

02:14:17.200 called tragic,

02:14:18.800 et cetera.

02:14:20.640 So basically,

02:14:21.400 for those of you

02:14:21.760 who are not

02:14:22.180 aware as to

02:14:23.440 what's going

02:14:23.800 on, the

02:14:24.680 FBI got tips

02:14:25.560 that this

02:14:26.140 mentally ill

02:14:27.800 Cuban dude

02:14:29.520 was going to

02:14:29.920 shoot up his

02:14:30.400 school, and

02:14:31.620 then when this

02:14:32.180 thing happened,

02:14:32.800 there was a

02:14:33.120 whole bunch of

02:14:33.920 very edgy

02:14:35.320 American trolls 0.87

02:14:36.140 on Discord who

02:14:37.300 convinced some

02:14:38.580 particularly

02:14:39.200 spurgy

02:14:44.500 Floridian

02:14:45.800 siege advocate

02:14:46.580 to claim that

02:14:47.840 this member was

02:14:48.360 part of his

02:14:48.760 group, and

02:14:49.680 they made a

02:14:50.620 post on

02:14:50.920 4chan, and

02:14:51.680 the ADL

02:14:52.160 believed them,

02:14:52.860 and then the

02:14:53.200 ADL contacted

02:14:53.960 this dude who

02:14:54.900 confirmed it.

02:14:56.540 And so the

02:14:57.040 international news

02:14:57.960 has literally been

02:14:58.840 this fake news

02:15:00.340 from some shit

02:15:01.420 posters on

02:15:02.000 Discord who

02:15:02.860 managed to

02:15:03.240 convince the

02:15:03.660 world that

02:15:04.420 this, you

02:15:05.240 know,

02:15:05.500 Marxist.

02:15:08.720 Yeah, that

02:15:09.480 reminds me of

02:15:10.560 the situation

02:15:11.600 where Devin

02:15:13.840 and Attenwaffen

02:15:14.640 happened, and

02:15:15.480 basically one

02:15:16.920 autistic member

02:15:18.420 of Attenwaffen

02:15:19.040 said that Richard

02:15:19.780 Spencer was the

02:15:20.680 leader of Attenwaffen

02:15:21.480 or something of

02:15:22.060 that sort.

02:15:22.420 Yeah, that's

02:15:25.860 kind of the

02:15:26.460 level that we've

02:15:27.100 reached here.

02:15:28.620 And so the

02:15:30.200 long story short

02:15:30.860 is that all of

02:15:31.640 this idiocy and 0.71

02:15:32.500 the fact that the

02:15:33.380 FBI and the

02:15:34.160 mainstream media

02:15:34.840 has just ran

02:15:36.820 with this has

02:15:39.040 resulted in

02:15:40.140 has resulted in

02:15:43.760 the state and

02:15:44.820 federal government

02:15:45.660 apparatus getting

02:15:46.720 a little bit upset

02:15:47.340 with how stupid

02:15:48.220 and retarded the 0.98

02:15:49.340 secret police have

02:15:50.400 gotten in the

02:15:51.240 United States of

02:15:51.840 America as of

02:15:52.500 late.

02:15:53.540 So, I mean,

02:15:55.140 this is good, I

02:15:56.660 guess.

02:15:56.920 I'm glad to see

02:15:57.620 the apparati of

02:15:59.360 the deep state of

02:16:00.080 the regime devouring

02:16:01.400 themselves and

02:16:02.240 engaging in, you

02:16:04.200 know, the more

02:16:04.960 that they focus on

02:16:06.340 their own internal

02:16:06.960 threats, the less

02:16:07.720 they can persecute

02:16:08.660 and oppress us,

02:16:09.620 which is a, you

02:16:10.540 know, an eminent

02:16:11.880 advantage.

02:16:14.920 So that's

02:16:15.720 something mildly

02:16:16.900 funny at the

02:16:17.980 very minimum, you

02:16:18.800 know, if not

02:16:19.680 some good news.

02:16:23.200 Some good news.

02:16:24.580 In recent news,

02:16:28.080 actually, by my

02:16:30.120 normie friends

02:16:31.040 from abroad,

02:16:32.660 they actually told

02:16:33.680 me because I

02:16:34.260 showed them my

02:16:35.000 boots and my

02:16:36.080 military gear,

02:16:36.920 they asked me if

02:16:37.480 I'm going to be

02:16:37.940 shooting up my

02:16:38.480 school recently,

02:16:39.120 like in the

02:16:40.500 next 10 days

02:16:41.340 or weeks or

02:16:42.340 whatever.

02:16:44.920 Well, clearly,

02:16:45.780 you're not a

02:16:46.180 member of the

02:16:47.100 Republic of

02:16:47.580 Florida militia,

02:16:49.340 so no.

02:16:50.780 Jordan Jerov

02:16:51.620 actually bought

02:16:52.280 because I made

02:16:52.940 shirts of his

02:16:53.900 face.

02:16:54.640 Yeah, the

02:16:55.320 Jerov culture 1.00

02:16:55.920 shirts, yeah.

02:16:57.380 He's bought four

02:16:58.640 shirts recently and

02:16:59.680 I think he bought

02:17:00.800 like three

02:17:02.400 militant orthodox

02:17:06.940 flags, which I have

02:17:07.920 on there as

02:17:08.420 well.

02:17:10.240 Like, I don't

02:17:10.920 know what he's

02:17:11.380 going to do

02:17:11.720 with it, but I'm

02:17:12.600 kind of ashamed

02:17:13.280 that my flags, my

02:17:14.460 flag design is

02:17:15.520 going to be

02:17:15.800 if-button.

02:17:16.960 Oh, my God.

02:17:19.500 Yeah, I remember.

02:17:20.660 He tipped me as

02:17:21.300 well.

02:17:26.140 At least I'm

02:17:26.880 getting money for

02:17:27.620 organization by

02:17:28.480 these offices.

02:17:29.780 Yeah, what can

02:17:30.480 you say?

02:17:31.520 I mean, that whole

02:17:32.960 thing is just such a

02:17:33.660 dumpster fire.

02:17:34.300 I don't want to go

02:17:35.260 into a meme.

02:17:35.700 He just becomes

02:17:36.260 like rumor-mongering

02:17:37.240 and talking about

02:17:38.640 drama, which is not

02:17:39.760 what the purpose of

02:17:40.960 the show is.

02:17:41.620 It's just like the

02:17:43.100 whole situation is

02:17:44.080 so, uh, it's

02:17:46.860 sober.

02:17:47.540 It's so Florida.

02:17:48.500 It's so intense.

02:17:49.540 Like, there's not,

02:17:50.560 I have no comments.

02:17:52.660 I have no comments.

02:17:55.320 At least I managed

02:17:56.920 to, out of this

02:17:57.920 whole stuff, you

02:17:59.020 know, managed to

02:18:00.300 Jew out some 0.99

02:18:01.140 money from some,

02:18:01.980 uh, fat American.

02:18:04.580 Yeah, that's,

02:18:05.480 that's one, one

02:18:07.940 white pill.

02:18:08.380 And so perhaps with

02:18:09.160 that, uh, positive

02:18:09.940 note, uh, we can

02:18:11.460 come to the end of

02:18:12.180 our episode.

02:18:13.140 Thank you very much

02:18:13.860 listeners for joining

02:18:14.600 us.

02:18:14.980 I'm your host,

02:18:15.480 Florian Geyer.

02:18:17.300 Thank you very much,

02:18:18.200 my friend, for joining

02:18:18.920 me today from, uh,

02:18:20.060 Bulgaria.

02:18:21.300 Uh, it's a pleasure

02:18:22.200 to have you on.

02:18:22.920 You're welcome on

02:18:23.660 anytime.

02:18:25.580 All right.

02:18:26.340 It was a pleasure.

02:18:28.080 All right.

02:18:28.680 God bless you.

02:18:29.620 And to our listeners,

02:18:30.300 thank you very much

02:18:31.260 for joining us.

02:18:32.540 Shalom.

02:18:32.900 Shalom.

02:18:36.940 Wir sind des geier

02:18:38.980 schwarzer Haufen.

02:18:41.720 Hai, ja, oh, oh.

02:18:45.260 Und voll mit

02:18:46.660 die Rannen raufen. 0.67

02:18:50.020 Hai, ja, oh, oh.

02:18:54.000 Spieß voran,

02:18:56.120 drauf und dran.

02:18:58.200 Setzt aufs bloß der

02:18:59.200 Dach, den

02:19:00.100 roten Ahn.

02:19:01.780 Den roten Ahn.

02:19:01.800 Schieß voran,

02:19:04.140 drauf und dran.

02:19:06.240 Setzt aufs bloß der

02:19:07.280 Dach, den roten Ahn.

02:19:13.840 Als Adam ruf und Eva

02:19:17.400 spann, Kyrie eleis.

02:19:21.240 Spieß voran,

02:19:23.300 spieß voran,

02:19:24.420 rauf und ran.

02:19:26.420 Setzt aufs bloß der Dach,

02:19:28.420 den roten Ahn.

02:19:29.500 Setzt aufs bloß der Dach,

02:19:30.420 den roten Ahn.

02:19:34.560 Setzt aufs bloß der Dach,

02:19:36.240 den roten Ahn.

02:19:38.300 Setzt aufs bloß der Dach,

02:19:40.480 den roten Ahn.

02:19:42.480 Setzt aufs bloß der Dach,

02:19:44.660 den roten Ahn.

02:19:46.660 Setzt aufs bloß der Dach,

02:19:48.660 den roten Ahn.

02:19:49.500 Setzt aufs bloß der Dach,

02:19:50.400 den roten Ahn.

02:19:52.400 Orian Gaia an, trotz Acht und Bann.

02:19:58.740 Den Wunschuh führt er in der Fahrt, hat Helm und Armisch an.

02:20:07.280 Spieß voran, drauf und dran, setzt aufs Losterdach den roten Haar.

02:20:14.800 Spieß voran, drauf und dran, setzt aufs Losterdach den roten Haar.

02:20:26.260 Bei Weinsberg setzt es Brand und Schand, Heia, oh, gar mancher über die Klinge sprang. 0.56

02:20:39.120 Heia, oh, ho, spieß voran, drauf und dran, setzt aufs Losterdach den roten Haar. 0.92

02:20:51.580 Spieß voran, drauf und dran, setzt aufs Losterdach den roten Haar.

02:20:59.340 Geschlagen ziehen wir nach Haus, Heia, oh, ho, unsere Enkel fechten's besser aus, Heia, oh, ho.

02:21:18.340 Spieß voran, drauf und dran, setzt aufs Losterdach den roten Haar.

02:21:35.800 Spieß voran, drauf und dran, setzt aufs Losterdach den roten Haar.

Mysterium Fasces - December 02, 2023

Mysterium Fasces Episode 46 — Bulgaria + The White Front

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