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00:02:11.120 Welcome to Mysterium Fasci's episode 47, Philosophy.

00:02:16.300 I'm your host, Florian Geyer.

00:02:17.980 It's a pleasure to be joining you once again, dear listeners,

00:02:20.120 and we've got a very exciting and full panel for you this week.

00:02:23.100 Joining us today we have two special guests,

00:02:25.460 and the first time to the show.

00:02:26.500 Really, it's long overdue.

00:02:29.520 Our friends from the Myth of the 20th Century podcast,

00:02:31.840 Nick Mason and Hans Lander, right?

00:02:34.920 Yep.

00:02:35.760 Excellent.

00:02:36.560 Well, boys, it's a real pleasure.

00:02:38.000 I'm a very great fan of your podcast.

00:02:39.840 You do some extremely excellent, high-quality stuff.

00:02:42.760 Very kind of content-oriented, content mindset.

00:02:46.040 So I have a deep pleasure to have you on today.

00:02:49.340 And some sojourners that we've had bustle into our saloon here at the last moment.

00:02:53.580 We've got our friends, Masonius Rufus and Makin's Ghost from Rebel Yelp Podcast,

00:02:57.800 also good friends of the show.

00:02:58.940 Thank you, boys, for coming on.

00:03:00.700 Thanks for having us.

00:03:01.840 Hey, thanks, bro.

00:03:02.880 It's a real pleasure.

00:03:04.220 So today we're going to be talking about philosophy,

00:03:07.060 not any particular philosophy in terms of doctrine,

00:03:10.280 but the importance of philosophy to an overall worldview,

00:03:13.580 even to how we operate in this modern world

00:03:16.040 and how philosophy shapes our lifestyle, essentially,

00:03:20.380 and the way our society is put together.

00:03:22.460 But before we get into that and discuss these kind of worldview questions,

00:03:26.820 we've just come to the end of the first week of Great Lent

00:03:29.880 for those of us who are on the Orthodox tradition.

00:03:32.680 And so I want to wish all of our brothers and sisters,

00:03:34.860 Catholic and Orthodox and Christian as well,

00:03:37.180 So, blessed Lent, you know, and encourage and support

00:03:42.120 and kind of issue a message of benediction to you all

00:03:46.400 in your efforts at charity and fasting and all that.

00:03:49.660 I think that one of the things that's been weighing heavily on me

00:03:53.500 the last couple of weeks is the absolute importance

00:03:56.740 of the foundation for our actions,

00:03:59.760 whether it's in the community or politically or whatever, of love.

00:04:04.300 And that there are a lot of young men,

00:04:07.020 especially in our circles,

00:04:08.300 who see the wickedness of this Babylonian society 1.00

00:04:11.060 and are reacting in an extremely strong way

00:04:14.580 against the death-bearing predators

00:04:17.880 that have instantiated themselves as the elite

00:04:21.420 in our Western society.

00:04:23.300 And what happens is that this reaction,

00:04:26.080 it ultimately leads to bad ends

00:04:29.020 because they're more angry and reactionary

00:04:33.320 against their enemies

00:04:34.620 rather than motivated from a place of love

00:04:37.340 towards their family and their society

00:04:39.440 and their community,

00:04:40.040 which is ultimately the basis

00:04:41.240 for any sort of national or Christian activity.

00:04:45.840 And so the season of Lent

00:04:47.660 is primarily one of increasing in love,

00:04:51.860 in love for ourselves in a true sense

00:04:54.380 by denying our own self-will

00:04:55.740 and pursuing those things

00:04:56.820 which are disciplined and good for our souls,

00:04:59.000 but especially for our brothers and sisters.

00:05:00.920 And being patient and temperate with them

00:05:03.820 and accepting their faults

00:05:05.600 and in trying our very best

00:05:07.160 to diligently labor in support of their well-being.

00:05:11.560 And of course, God has the center of all that,

00:05:14.040 that we love our brothers and sisters

00:05:16.080 as Christ has loved us,

00:05:18.720 which is what we're commanded to do as Christians.

00:05:21.380 So that's kind of the essence of it.

00:05:23.080 And fasting and prayer are all techniques and tools

00:05:25.660 that are supposed to help us advance in those virtues

00:05:28.560 and grow in love towards our neighbor and towards God.

00:05:31.880 And I think that ultimately,

00:05:33.020 it's the proliferation and growth

00:05:34.960 and strengthening of that real masculine Christian love,

00:05:38.700 which will be the wellspring

00:05:40.060 from which any sort of personal,

00:05:42.760 familial, societal restoration

00:05:44.300 can come about from.

00:05:46.780 So it's just something that is,

00:05:48.720 frankly, at the foundation of everything that we do.

00:05:50.400 And if we don't have that real,

00:05:52.200 earnest, diligent, suffering, sacrificial love

00:05:54.880 for ourselves, our family, our society,

00:05:57.300 our folk, our people,

00:05:59.040 then we're not going to get anywhere.

00:06:00.380 If we're motivated just by burning hate and anger

00:06:02.880 at our enemies,

00:06:04.620 however much they may be despicable

00:06:07.060 in service of the devil, 0.71

00:06:08.440 it ultimately will just consume us

00:06:10.340 because it's an identity,

00:06:12.520 a lifestyle of reaction.

00:06:15.080 So with that kind of, you know,

00:06:18.600 imploring eulogy out of the way,

00:06:20.400 let's get right into it.

00:06:22.440 So philosophy...

00:06:25.280 Oh, please go ahead.

00:06:26.440 You know, Florian,

00:06:26.800 I'm sure you've heard this before,

00:06:27.980 but you would make a great priest, man.

00:06:31.080 I've worked about that, buddy.

00:06:32.320 So let's see how that goes, God willing.

00:06:36.360 So to get into this,

00:06:38.980 the importance of philosophy

00:06:40.460 and the reason that I wanted to do

00:06:42.780 a whole show dedicated to it

00:06:44.660 is that when I've tried to explain to other people

00:06:46.900 what the purpose of this podcast is,

00:06:48.620 I realized that it mostly comes down to

00:06:51.300 discussion of the worldview.

00:06:53.880 It's kind of Christian nationals,

00:06:55.940 Christian national socialists,

00:06:57.140 but it's not so much like a discussion

00:07:00.060 on like what is the ideology of nationalism

00:07:02.680 or that kind of thing.

00:07:04.460 It's a much broader discussion,

00:07:06.560 a discussion of the fundamental presuppositions

00:07:08.840 and assumptions of our worldview,

00:07:10.560 of how the world works from our perspective,

00:07:13.280 of how our enemies think,

00:07:15.960 of how what we think

00:07:18.300 and how we pray,

00:07:20.800 how we believe affects our life

00:07:22.720 and affects the civilization around us.

00:07:24.900 And so what's happened is

00:07:26.080 as we've come to this postmodern era,

00:07:28.500 the importance of hard power,

00:07:31.600 of raw ideological fanaticism,

00:07:34.580 while it's still important,

00:07:35.960 violence is the foundation of all,

00:07:37.720 of the entire state,

00:07:38.780 I think has waned significantly.

00:07:41.120 And with the rise of mass communication,

00:07:43.900 we've seen the advent of

00:07:45.420 what I would describe a worldview warfare.

00:07:48.220 Our friend Titus Flavius runs a podcast

00:07:50.400 called Tukampf,

00:07:51.660 which is just a 19th century expression

00:07:54.380 of this very idea

00:07:57.540 that you don't need to engage

00:07:59.540 in acts of physical violence

00:08:01.260 or impose coercive force on a society.

00:08:04.400 If you can control the worldview,

00:08:05.820 if you can control the presuppositions

00:08:07.300 that they hold in their mind

00:08:10.080 before they even make actions,

00:08:11.560 before they even address anything in the world,

00:08:13.760 you don't have to use hard power.

00:08:16.100 And so a lot of what we're trying to do here

00:08:17.680 is to kind of deprogram people

00:08:19.820 of that kind of existing worldview

00:08:21.480 and give them the substance

00:08:22.820 that's just as radical

00:08:24.260 and just as strong

00:08:25.280 necessary to counter

00:08:26.480 the kind of insidious

00:08:27.820 and diabolic worldview

00:08:28.960 that our enemies have

00:08:29.900 so successfully pushed upon our civilization.

00:08:32.760 All right, boys.

00:08:33.180 So I'm going to be glad

00:08:35.360 to open it up to any of you

00:08:36.260 for your kind of opening comments.

00:08:37.360 I'm sure all of you have

00:08:38.580 more than one deep thought of the matter.

00:08:41.320 Well, what comes to mind

00:08:43.040 for me immediately,

00:08:43.860 I think I read this somewhere.

00:08:45.420 I don't have the exact source.

00:08:47.460 It's probably some French novel,

00:08:49.020 but it stuck with me,

00:08:50.480 which is the quote

00:08:51.500 was something along the lines of

00:08:53.320 you have to live as you believe

00:08:55.920 or you'll end up believing as you live.

00:08:59.360 And I think about someone

00:09:00.900 like E. Michael Jones

00:09:02.020 in that context a lot

00:09:03.400 because much of his whole thesis

00:09:06.320 on modernism, modernity

00:09:08.460 was effectively rationalized

00:09:10.900 sexual misbehavior.

00:09:12.700 And I think that many times

00:09:14.980 bad ideas stick around

00:09:17.440 and come around due to bad actions.

00:09:20.680 Yeah, that's bang on.

00:09:23.960 Absolutely.

00:09:25.560 Yeah, that's sort of the innate depravity

00:09:27.640 of man.

00:09:29.440 Like our ability to choose

00:09:30.480 between good and evil

00:09:31.800 was also damaged

00:09:33.160 in Adam's fall.

00:09:34.700 So we end up

00:09:35.700 rationalizing our selfishness.

00:09:38.680 You know, and we think

00:09:40.860 that we're doing it

00:09:41.480 for logical reasons.

00:09:43.120 Yeah.

00:09:43.740 Yeah, it was Sartre

00:09:45.020 who said man is condemned

00:09:46.280 to be free.

00:09:47.640 Yeah.

00:09:47.780 The one thing I've always noticed

00:09:49.360 about postmodernists

00:09:50.540 and a lot of the later

00:09:51.560 continental philosophers

00:09:52.660 and a lot of the existentialists

00:09:55.440 is that these are all

00:09:56.380 predominantly French and German

00:09:59.000 and to an extent

00:10:00.400 Belgian men

00:10:02.220 who are trying to deal

00:10:04.340 with the fact

00:10:04.940 that these are

00:10:05.800 places and peoples

00:10:07.540 that were defined

00:10:08.460 by the Catholic Church

00:10:10.340 and they don't know

00:10:11.240 what to do

00:10:11.940 in the wake of

00:10:13.680 the collapse of Catholicism

00:10:15.320 particularly in France.

00:10:16.640 The overwhelming majority

00:10:17.880 of these guys

00:10:19.020 were French

00:10:20.460 and I think that they were all

00:10:21.580 trying to

00:10:22.540 accommodate for the fact

00:10:24.280 that the lifeblood

00:10:25.780 of the French people

00:10:27.640 which has always been

00:10:28.400 Catholicism

00:10:29.200 was stamped out

00:10:31.140 in 1789

00:10:32.480 and they've all just been

00:10:33.780 living in a sort of

00:10:36.460 zombie state

00:10:37.220 since then

00:10:37.800 and inflicting

00:10:38.660 whatever they have

00:10:39.900 on the rest of the world.

00:10:41.540 The entirety of

00:10:42.620 Foucault's ideology

00:10:44.500 was essentially

00:10:45.420 opening up

00:10:46.500 every young boy

00:10:47.540 to have 1.00

00:10:48.200 anal sex with. 1.00

00:10:50.560 And that was 1.00

00:10:51.920 essentially it

00:10:53.260 and it was

00:10:54.100 this rage

00:10:55.700 at the world

00:10:56.340 and I think

00:10:56.700 rage at France

00:10:57.560 for effectively dying

00:10:59.200 and they were all

00:11:00.140 sort of living

00:11:00.680 in this post-collapse

00:11:01.920 state.

00:11:02.740 Yeah.

00:11:03.640 Interesting.

00:11:04.000 Yeah I think

00:11:04.720 that's bang on

00:11:05.380 and it's

00:11:05.840 Rufus what you said

00:11:06.860 is actually

00:11:07.580 directly pertinent

00:11:08.840 to the kind of

00:11:10.040 opening message

00:11:10.640 that I gave

00:11:11.240 because theologically

00:11:12.860 in the Eastern tradition

00:11:14.020 we would say

00:11:14.720 that man has

00:11:17.060 a tripartite soul

00:11:18.060 you've got your body

00:11:18.960 you've got your mind

00:11:20.000 or your soul

00:11:20.800 then you've got

00:11:21.620 your heart

00:11:22.040 or your spirit

00:11:22.680 and that in

00:11:23.820 the man's fall

00:11:24.720 from grace

00:11:25.220 it's his highest

00:11:26.020 part of his soul

00:11:26.900 his noose

00:11:28.000 his heart

00:11:28.540 which was damaged

00:11:29.280 and that's

00:11:30.300 the faculty

00:11:31.400 that enables him

00:11:32.200 to look into

00:11:32.820 the spiritual world

00:11:33.680 and to apprehend

00:11:34.640 the true nature

00:11:35.360 of reality around him

00:11:36.820 without deception

00:11:37.580 and to act upon it

00:11:39.120 and so

00:11:39.880 you know

00:11:40.460 charity

00:11:41.340 and almsgiving

00:11:42.780 and fasting

00:11:43.380 and prayer

00:11:43.760 these are all methods

00:11:44.640 by which we seek

00:11:45.460 to purify

00:11:46.860 and to elevate

00:11:47.900 and to raise

00:11:49.100 the heart

00:11:49.680 the noose

00:11:50.660 back to its

00:11:51.780 pre-false state

00:11:52.900 so that we can

00:11:53.660 you know

00:11:54.620 first of all

00:11:55.240 rid ourselves

00:11:56.120 of these delusions

00:11:56.860 but we can

00:11:57.560 help rid the world

00:11:59.920 of it

00:12:00.260 and that's the thing

00:12:01.200 is that

00:12:01.620 when we come to

00:12:02.840 this is

00:12:03.640 we've touched on it

00:12:04.280 immediately

00:12:04.720 that philosophy

00:12:06.160 tends to more

00:12:08.060 modern philosophy

00:12:09.060 post-modern philosophy

00:12:09.820 tends to more be

00:12:10.560 the rationalization

00:12:12.120 of your worldview

00:12:13.200 and of your actions

00:12:13.940 rather than something

00:12:15.100 that even

00:12:15.540 like you know

00:12:16.360 from classical foundationalism

00:12:17.820 that has like

00:12:18.640 a logical chain

00:12:19.640 or from the ancient world

00:12:20.860 that comes down

00:12:21.600 from a

00:12:22.140 transcendent

00:12:23.100 metaphysical tradition

00:12:25.760 and so

00:12:27.120 you know

00:12:27.740 people

00:12:28.100 in the west

00:12:29.540 we've seen

00:12:29.880 the real fetishization

00:12:30.960 of the intellect

00:12:31.580 and this kind of

00:12:32.780 a Gnostic 0.92

00:12:33.440 from

00:12:34.240 you know

00:12:35.800 this Cartesian

00:12:36.800 kind of Gnostic

00:12:37.500 separation

00:12:38.040 of the material

00:12:39.160 from the

00:12:39.880 spiritual

00:12:40.740 right

00:12:41.160 and it's just 0.98

00:12:41.880 an asinine idea 0.98

00:12:43.280 that you know 0.98

00:12:44.260 if you accept

00:12:44.960 that man is

00:12:45.920 kind of generally 0.99

00:12:47.120 pretty screwed up 0.77

00:12:47.900 man's fallen 0.94

00:12:48.520 and most people

00:12:49.420 even liberals

00:12:50.080 will accept this

00:12:50.840 that man has issues

00:12:52.120 well why 0.92

00:12:52.860 why is his brain

00:12:53.880 this kind of

00:12:54.620 you know

00:12:55.000 like floating

00:12:55.700 Gnostic

00:12:56.180 paradise

00:12:56.680 that's able

00:12:57.200 to interact

00:12:57.820 directly with

00:12:58.660 you know

00:12:59.200 the unblemished

00:12:59.880 world around it

00:13:00.620 we know even

00:13:01.400 scientifically

00:13:02.100 empirically

00:13:03.200 that that's just

00:13:04.040 not the case

00:13:04.760 that man's brain

00:13:06.260 processes decisions

00:13:07.400 before he even

00:13:09.820 has a conscious

00:13:10.540 understanding

00:13:11.160 of what those

00:13:11.580 decisions are going

00:13:12.200 to be

00:13:12.700 yeah the

00:13:15.220 you know

00:13:16.320 real quick

00:13:17.020 you know

00:13:17.660 philosophy

00:13:18.040 was invented

00:13:18.640 by the

00:13:19.260 the Greeks

00:13:19.960 and you know

00:13:21.260 their religion

00:13:21.840 was a series

00:13:22.480 of like

00:13:22.900 ritualistic

00:13:23.560 formulae

00:13:24.680 you know

00:13:25.360 to appease

00:13:25.920 the capricious

00:13:26.900 gods

00:13:27.420 but it didn't

00:13:28.280 really tell them

00:13:28.840 how they should

00:13:29.720 live their

00:13:30.100 everyday lives

00:13:31.140 and so

00:13:31.540 philosophy

00:13:32.080 originally was

00:13:33.540 a way of

00:13:34.400 life

00:13:34.920 you know

00:13:35.780 they

00:13:36.100 you know

00:13:37.160 they started

00:13:37.500 by asking

00:13:38.060 what is real

00:13:38.940 you know

00:13:39.700 and you know

00:13:40.480 that which does

00:13:41.380 not change

00:13:42.100 and then they

00:13:42.460 worked their

00:13:42.820 way up

00:13:43.280 from the

00:13:44.000 beginning

00:13:44.400 it had

00:13:45.860 logic

00:13:47.100 ethics

00:13:47.760 and physics

00:13:48.460 and they're

00:13:49.340 all related

00:13:49.860 and you know

00:13:51.580 you go through

00:13:52.160 the ethical

00:13:52.960 or eretaic

00:13:54.060 turn with

00:13:54.660 Socrates

00:13:55.340 and you know

00:13:56.820 people start

00:13:57.260 emphasizing the

00:13:58.080 ethics

00:13:58.460 how to live

00:13:58.960 their everyday

00:13:59.440 lives

00:14:00.060 and you know

00:14:01.600 eventually

00:14:02.280 though

00:14:02.940 Christianity

00:14:03.480 conquered

00:14:04.160 you know

00:14:04.720 the west

00:14:05.240 and philosophy

00:14:06.800 became like

00:14:08.020 the handmaid

00:14:09.320 of theology

00:14:10.060 you know

00:14:10.840 and so you

00:14:11.200 would have

00:14:11.480 all these

00:14:11.780 Christian

00:14:12.160 theologians

00:14:12.940 but some

00:14:13.440 would be

00:14:13.760 like

00:14:14.060 you know

00:14:14.520 I still

00:14:14.880 you know

00:14:15.380 I like

00:14:16.180 the stoics

00:14:17.080 or I like

00:14:17.600 the epicures

00:14:18.360 or I like

00:14:18.880 the platonists

00:14:19.640 but today

00:14:21.000 we've had

00:14:21.680 Christianity

00:14:22.200 hollowed out

00:14:23.080 by this

00:14:23.560 progressive

00:14:24.040 you know

00:14:24.480 modern

00:14:24.920 doctrine

00:14:26.140 you know

00:14:26.800 and so

00:14:27.520 philosophy

00:14:28.180 is just

00:14:28.460 the handmaid

00:14:29.060 of progressivism

00:14:29.840 now

00:14:30.140 you know

00:14:31.040 it's

00:14:31.380 the original

00:14:32.940 way of life

00:14:33.960 aspect of it

00:14:35.160 has been

00:14:35.460 forgotten

00:14:35.940 but originally

00:14:36.960 this was religion

00:14:37.780 you know

00:14:38.380 to the ancient

00:14:38.840 Greeks 0.98

00:14:39.220 you know

00:14:39.520 if you

00:14:39.840 if you

00:14:40.460 were a stoic

00:14:41.800 you know

00:14:42.260 you believed

00:14:42.680 certain things

00:14:43.220 about matter

00:14:43.900 if you were

00:14:44.520 an epicure

00:14:45.220 you believed

00:14:45.600 certain things

00:14:46.160 about matter

00:14:46.780 they were all

00:14:47.700 related

00:14:48.120 and yeah

00:14:49.600 you could

00:14:49.940 kind of see

00:14:50.520 how

00:14:50.860 you know

00:14:51.500 the major

00:14:51.940 schools

00:14:52.640 of philosophy

00:14:53.420 you know

00:14:54.760 it's almost

00:14:55.200 like they

00:14:55.700 retroengineered

00:14:56.880 their physics

00:14:57.600 so if you

00:14:58.780 you know

00:14:59.140 if you're

00:14:59.840 an epicure

00:15:00.360 and you're

00:15:00.600 obsessed with

00:15:01.340 you know

00:15:01.600 freedom

00:15:01.980 you know

00:15:02.460 freedom

00:15:02.740 of conscience

00:15:03.820 then that

00:15:04.560 leads to

00:15:05.240 atomism

00:15:06.220 you know

00:15:07.200 and the

00:15:08.400 the stoics

00:15:09.100 you know

00:15:09.760 believed in

00:15:10.260 a strict

00:15:10.700 causality

00:15:11.380 going back

00:15:12.080 to the beginning

00:15:12.680 and that

00:15:13.820 that was never

00:15:14.280 interrupted

00:15:14.880 and anyway

00:15:16.200 you know

00:15:16.940 don't let me

00:15:17.400 go off on a

00:15:17.860 tangent here

00:15:18.360 guys

00:15:18.660 but I'm

00:15:19.400 just saying

00:15:19.780 that the

00:15:20.140 you know

00:15:20.500 originally

00:15:20.800 philosophy

00:15:21.480 they understood

00:15:22.740 that you know

00:15:23.880 what you think

00:15:24.380 about ethics

00:15:25.160 affects what

00:15:26.160 you think

00:15:26.480 about physics

00:15:27.220 and logic

00:15:28.000 and that

00:15:29.260 they're not

00:15:30.080 isolated

00:15:30.840 you can't

00:15:31.460 just have ethics

00:15:32.240 I was going

00:15:33.680 to comment

00:15:34.240 on your

00:15:34.520 part of

00:15:35.240 what somebody

00:15:36.060 who may be

00:15:36.540 new to any

00:15:37.660 historical

00:15:38.180 understanding

00:15:38.900 of philosophy

00:15:39.840 is you

00:15:41.360 said their

00:15:41.800 religion

00:15:42.260 yes in the

00:15:43.380 sense that

00:15:43.820 you know

00:15:44.180 it drove

00:15:44.740 metaphysics

00:15:45.420 and how you

00:15:45.880 should behave

00:15:46.340 but in the

00:15:47.380 classical sense

00:15:47.980 they were very

00:15:48.500 much a call

00:15:49.240 to action

00:15:49.780 saying if

00:15:50.660 you're a

00:15:51.020 stoic you

00:15:51.420 need to live

00:15:52.120 your life

00:15:52.540 according to

00:15:53.040 these principles

00:15:53.760 if you were

00:15:54.420 you know

00:15:55.320 an epicure

00:15:56.580 you lived

00:15:56.940 all your

00:15:57.180 lives

00:15:57.540 according to

00:15:58.080 these principles

00:15:58.840 and just

00:15:59.700 like much

00:16:00.040 of Christianity

00:16:00.600 was you know

00:16:01.480 a call

00:16:01.980 to action

00:16:02.520 in your

00:16:02.820 daily life

00:16:03.360 saying you

00:16:03.680 must live

00:16:04.140 your life

00:16:04.540 according to

00:16:05.040 these principles

00:16:05.780 and increasingly

00:16:06.980 we see

00:16:07.720 post-modern

00:16:09.540 man or late

00:16:10.180 modernity

00:16:10.640 most people

00:16:11.140 don't do that

00:16:11.920 even Christianity

00:16:12.560 is more about

00:16:13.520 going to church

00:16:14.140 and feeling good

00:16:14.820 there is no

00:16:15.380 call to action

00:16:16.160 in any sense

00:16:16.920 other than

00:16:17.680 maybe giving

00:16:18.120 your money

00:16:18.480 to people

00:16:18.940 that you

00:16:19.400 have no

00:16:19.680 contact with

00:16:20.480 many of the

00:16:22.160 traditional links

00:16:23.120 to the past

00:16:24.460 and to what

00:16:24.940 humans used to be

00:16:26.200 have been forgotten

00:16:27.120 like one of my

00:16:28.020 favorite books

00:16:28.620 is the

00:16:31.040 pre-socratic

00:16:31.600 philosophers

00:16:32.120 by Kirk

00:16:32.840 and Raven

00:16:33.220 he was written

00:16:33.860 in the 50s

00:16:34.720 and I inherited

00:16:35.220 it from my

00:16:35.660 grandfather

00:16:36.140 and it goes

00:16:38.000 through all

00:16:39.280 of these

00:16:39.940 all the

00:16:40.700 pre-socratic

00:16:41.160 philosophers

00:16:41.500 particularly

00:16:41.840 Heraclitus

00:16:42.680 and then if

00:16:43.260 you read

00:16:43.760 fragments by

00:16:44.620 Heraclitus

00:16:45.200 you get the

00:16:45.880 sense that

00:16:46.420 these were

00:16:47.000 men who

00:16:47.660 as you were

00:16:48.400 saying were

00:16:48.800 interested in

00:16:49.560 the holistic

00:16:50.300 everything was

00:16:51.780 intertwined

00:16:52.440 everything

00:16:52.880 impacted

00:16:53.600 everything else

00:16:54.580 and you had

00:16:55.120 to try and

00:16:56.040 approximate

00:16:56.600 all of it

00:16:57.760 at once

00:16:58.200 you couldn't

00:16:58.820 you know

00:16:59.040 and intersectionalism

00:17:00.280 was not what

00:17:01.000 it was

00:17:01.440 it was

00:17:02.080 it was

00:17:02.940 holism

00:17:03.460 there's something

00:17:04.220 really different

00:17:05.120 I think

00:17:05.560 in what we have

00:17:06.800 now with

00:17:07.360 modernity

00:17:07.900 is intersectionalism

00:17:09.540 which is

00:17:11.020 atomization

00:17:11.840 trying to

00:17:13.360 masquerade

00:17:14.080 itself

00:17:14.560 as a

00:17:15.940 holistic

00:17:16.400 philosophy

00:17:17.700 for life

00:17:18.340 yeah

00:17:18.860 whereas all

00:17:19.720 it does

00:17:20.260 is it

00:17:20.540 actually

00:17:21.040 atomizes

00:17:21.700 you further

00:17:22.200 and it

00:17:22.540 atomizes

00:17:23.120 groups of

00:17:23.760 people further

00:17:24.380 and it

00:17:24.840 completely

00:17:25.340 destroys

00:17:26.180 society

00:17:26.780 and it

00:17:27.120 makes

00:17:27.440 society

00:17:28.380 impossible

00:17:28.920 to work

00:17:29.840 or to

00:17:31.220 not be

00:17:31.700 dysfunctional

00:17:32.560 anything

00:17:32.860 outside of

00:17:33.720 being

00:17:33.900 dysfunctional

00:17:34.560 is

00:17:34.800 impossible

00:17:35.480 now

00:17:35.780 yeah

00:17:36.360 which

00:17:36.920 I know

00:17:38.020 I keep

00:17:38.220 interjecting

00:17:39.320 but that's

00:17:39.640 I mean

00:17:40.000 that's

00:17:40.460 you know

00:17:40.700 directly

00:17:40.980 opposed

00:17:41.380 to what

00:17:41.620 we may

00:17:41.940 see in

00:17:42.360 the late

00:17:43.240 republican

00:17:43.700 Rome

00:17:44.080 where

00:17:44.380 many of

00:17:45.200 the public

00:17:45.480 figures

00:17:45.920 saw their

00:17:46.380 lives

00:17:46.760 as being

00:17:47.120 you know

00:17:47.460 the exercise

00:17:48.880 of whatever

00:17:50.020 philosophy

00:17:50.660 they had

00:17:51.400 so you

00:17:52.900 could look

00:17:53.220 at their

00:17:53.500 political

00:17:54.200 lives

00:17:54.680 their public

00:17:55.100 life

00:17:55.440 other than

00:17:55.840 just straight

00:17:56.280 politics

00:17:56.720 you know

00:17:57.140 what they

00:17:57.460 did in

00:17:58.340 their public

00:17:58.720 service

00:17:59.140 what they

00:17:59.440 did personally

00:18:00.120 how they

00:18:00.600 even how they

00:18:01.360 exercised

00:18:01.980 some of them

00:18:02.420 and all of that

00:18:03.080 was you know

00:18:04.040 one integrated

00:18:05.300 praxis for their

00:18:06.880 world view

00:18:07.480 which is the

00:18:08.580 complete and total

00:18:09.200 opposite from

00:18:10.360 what philosophy

00:18:11.220 is for late

00:18:11.960 modernity

00:18:12.540 but even what

00:18:13.240 Christianity is for 0.97

00:18:14.180 too many people

00:18:14.800 in late modernity

00:18:15.540 which is very

00:18:16.480 sad

00:18:16.960 yeah

00:18:18.100 well philosophy

00:18:18.940 mattered so much

00:18:20.020 that philosophers

00:18:21.020 would be periodically

00:18:22.020 banished from

00:18:22.760 Rome

00:18:23.120 because they

00:18:24.880 were stirring

00:18:25.300 up trouble

00:18:25.920 yeah especially

00:18:26.620 the ones who

00:18:27.180 weren't

00:18:27.440 associated with

00:18:28.920 whatever the

00:18:29.620 establishment or

00:18:31.480 the crown or

00:18:31.960 the emperor

00:18:32.360 at the time

00:18:32.840 was

00:18:33.180 they were the

00:18:34.640 high moralists

00:18:35.480 you know people

00:18:35.920 like Epictetus

00:18:36.820 you know what's

00:18:37.640 exciting about

00:18:38.420 reading you know

00:18:40.060 these ancients

00:18:40.880 is that you

00:18:42.440 know like the

00:18:42.900 Stoics would say 0.93

00:18:43.440 that the only evil

00:18:44.320 is moral evil

00:18:45.340 so you know if

00:18:46.780 you know it's evil

00:18:47.880 that comes from

00:18:48.520 your choice

00:18:49.220 right you're not

00:18:50.200 really responsible

00:18:51.100 for things outside

00:18:52.060 of your control

00:18:52.800 therefore those

00:18:53.540 aren't those

00:18:54.100 aren't really evil

00:18:54.840 they just are

00:18:55.580 you know what's

00:18:56.320 evil is your

00:18:57.200 consent you know

00:18:58.540 to do something

00:18:59.180 evil and so

00:19:00.660 you know there

00:19:01.780 was high moralism

00:19:02.900 high ethics

00:19:03.640 you know it's

00:19:04.440 you know good

00:19:05.500 and evil are

00:19:06.080 within you

00:19:06.680 they are inside

00:19:07.640 you

00:19:08.000 and it's a choice

00:19:09.060 fundamentally to

00:19:09.900 the individual

00:19:10.460 and every act

00:19:12.180 that you can

00:19:13.140 choose fundamentally

00:19:14.020 is moral or

00:19:14.840 immoral and it

00:19:16.820 puts the complete

00:19:17.720 and total

00:19:18.060 responsibility on the

00:19:19.120 individual

00:19:19.580 I mean sort

00:19:20.440 of like Sartre's

00:19:21.220 sense that you

00:19:21.860 know you're

00:19:22.480 you're condemned

00:19:23.180 to be free

00:19:23.760 it's like you're

00:19:24.260 condemned to do

00:19:24.920 make be moral

00:19:26.120 or immoral and

00:19:26.920 there's no getting

00:19:27.940 out of the game

00:19:28.660 you know a lot

00:19:33.060 of the anger

00:19:33.520 at God is

00:19:34.860 a belief in

00:19:36.440 absurd evil

00:19:37.300 you know how

00:19:37.960 dare there be

00:19:38.600 earthquakes and

00:19:39.560 plagues and such

00:19:40.660 you know and

00:19:41.820 you know the

00:19:42.300 Stoics would say 0.93

00:19:43.000 you know evil

00:19:43.560 evil's inside you

00:19:44.680 go on sir

00:19:45.580 it's like it's

00:19:46.520 like all the blue

00:19:47.180 check out on

00:19:47.780 Twitter who

00:19:48.360 after the church

00:19:49.380 shooting were

00:19:49.920 immediately like

00:19:50.640 well how can

00:19:51.160 there be a God

00:19:51.860 because your

00:19:52.220 church just got

00:19:52.860 shot up

00:19:53.860 checkmate

00:19:54.500 it's that sort 1.00

00:19:56.900 of like asinine 0.97

00:19:58.240 approaches to 0.99

00:19:59.540 God

00:19:59.880 yeah or that's

00:20:01.140 always bizarre

00:20:01.820 or there's always

00:20:02.580 you know the

00:20:03.160 the cries for

00:20:04.260 well what about

00:20:05.780 the the bugs

00:20:07.000 that eat people

00:20:07.880 that eat children's 0.54

00:20:08.800 eyes in Africa

00:20:09.680 like if there was

00:20:10.720 a God I would 0.85

00:20:11.880 hate him for

00:20:12.460 making those

00:20:13.100 or some

00:20:13.780 yeah and

00:20:14.880 Burroughs said

00:20:15.400 that specifically

00:20:16.180 yeah

00:20:16.760 whereas I

00:20:18.820 think a

00:20:19.220 Stoic may

00:20:19.860 say if you

00:20:20.360 have it in

00:20:20.800 your power

00:20:21.140 to choose

00:20:21.560 why haven't

00:20:22.080 you worked

00:20:22.540 towards fixing

00:20:23.120 that yet

00:20:23.700 here's a

00:20:25.280 here's a

00:20:25.920 quote from

00:20:26.680 Aurelius's

00:20:27.980 meditations

00:20:28.620 he says

00:20:29.300 if you set

00:20:31.160 up as good

00:20:31.740 or evil

00:20:32.280 any of the

00:20:32.840 things beyond

00:20:33.500 your control

00:20:34.280 it is

00:20:34.800 it necessarily

00:20:35.900 follows that

00:20:37.040 in the occurrence

00:20:37.740 of that evil

00:20:38.440 or the frustration

00:20:39.400 of that good

00:20:40.320 you blame the

00:20:41.080 gods and hate

00:20:42.160 the men who

00:20:42.900 are the real

00:20:43.500 or suspected

00:20:44.240 causes of that

00:20:45.180 occurrence or that

00:20:46.100 frustration

00:20:46.680 but if we

00:20:48.020 determine that

00:20:48.980 only what lies

00:20:49.800 in our own

00:20:50.440 power is good

00:20:51.220 or evil

00:20:51.680 there is no

00:20:52.400 reason left

00:20:53.060 us either to

00:20:53.920 charge a god

00:20:54.780 or to take a

00:20:55.520 hostile stance

00:20:56.420 to man

00:20:56.980 yeah so the

00:20:59.180 question is

00:20:59.860 how are you

00:21:00.300 going to deal

00:21:00.760 with it

00:21:01.280 you know

00:21:01.680 you know

00:21:02.380 you get into

00:21:02.800 the bank

00:21:03.180 and there's

00:21:03.460 a long line

00:21:04.240 are you going

00:21:04.920 to get angry

00:21:05.580 are you going

00:21:06.060 to get frustrated

00:21:06.760 you know

00:21:07.120 that's where

00:21:07.680 the evil

00:21:08.240 comes in

00:21:08.840 it's not the

00:21:09.340 fact that

00:21:09.640 there's a

00:21:09.920 long line

00:21:10.600 that just

00:21:11.300 is

00:21:11.700 you know

00:21:12.620 and it's

00:21:14.300 just what

00:21:14.740 you read

00:21:15.160 from

00:21:15.440 meditations

00:21:16.260 it's just

00:21:16.740 like the

00:21:17.080 first

00:21:17.400 the first

00:21:18.080 paragraph

00:21:18.600 of the

00:21:19.280 Enchiridion

00:21:19.860 by Epictetus

00:21:20.700 you know

00:21:21.660 yeah

00:21:22.280 in life

00:21:23.120 some things

00:21:23.560 are in our

00:21:23.940 power

00:21:24.260 others are

00:21:24.780 not

00:21:25.180 and then

00:21:25.680 it's all

00:21:26.580 it's all the

00:21:27.240 more remarkable

00:21:27.920 of who

00:21:28.860 Aurelius was

00:21:29.720 and who

00:21:30.080 Epictetus

00:21:30.680 was

00:21:31.220 yeah

00:21:31.580 oh the

00:21:32.000 emperor

00:21:32.320 and the

00:21:32.640 slave

00:21:33.060 contrast

00:21:33.540 exactly

00:21:34.620 yeah

00:21:35.380 and they

00:21:36.740 both saw

00:21:37.200 their lot

00:21:37.720 in life

00:21:38.260 as being

00:21:39.100 product of

00:21:40.120 circumstances

00:21:40.700 beyond their

00:21:41.280 control

00:21:41.720 yeah

00:21:42.400 and to a

00:21:44.080 lesser extent

00:21:45.220 about duty

00:21:45.720 as well

00:21:46.100 sorry to cut you off

00:21:46.960 sir

00:21:47.080 no indeed

00:21:47.620 absolutely

00:21:48.220 well it makes

00:21:50.220 me think of

00:21:50.720 the Christian

00:21:52.060 tradition has

00:21:52.660 its own

00:21:53.200 sovereign line

00:21:53.980 of philosophers

00:21:54.540 going back

00:21:55.280 precisely to this

00:21:56.440 period

00:21:56.680 I mean very

00:21:57.080 famously

00:21:57.920 St. Justin

00:21:58.780 Martyr

00:21:59.080 St. Justin

00:21:59.540 the philosopher

00:22:00.880 as he's known

00:22:01.360 in the east

00:22:01.900 was martyred

00:22:03.480 basically after

00:22:04.300 well he would

00:22:05.520 debate a lot

00:22:06.740 of these

00:22:07.180 especially stoic

00:22:08.580 philosophers

00:22:09.060 in Rome

00:22:09.900 and several

00:22:10.380 of them were

00:22:10.860 favorites of

00:22:11.720 the emperor

00:22:12.560 at the time

00:22:13.160 and the cause

00:22:14.220 of his martyrdom

00:22:14.840 was that he

00:22:15.540 I guess beat

00:22:16.580 several of these

00:22:17.260 guys in a debate

00:22:18.100 and whooped them

00:22:18.600 so bad

00:22:19.140 that they

00:22:19.720 they got

00:22:21.580 really really

00:22:22.020 angry

00:22:22.320 and convinced

00:22:23.120 the emperor

00:22:24.160 to persecute

00:22:25.520 him for

00:22:25.720 stirring up

00:22:26.100 trouble

00:22:26.380 and disturbing

00:22:27.080 the public

00:22:27.440 peace

00:22:27.720 and all

00:22:27.940 that

00:22:28.200 yeah

00:22:29.740 there was

00:22:30.500 so much

00:22:30.920 it was so

00:22:31.300 fruitful

00:22:31.720 the interaction

00:22:32.400 but you know

00:22:32.840 Christianity

00:22:33.220 was seen

00:22:33.700 as like

00:22:34.100 a Jewish

00:22:34.960 school of

00:22:35.740 philosophy

00:22:36.220 or something

00:22:36.860 there was

00:22:37.480 so much

00:22:37.720 interaction

00:22:38.260 that they

00:22:38.720 there was

00:22:39.480 this correspondence

00:22:40.300 between

00:22:41.040 Seneca

00:22:41.620 and St. Paul

00:22:42.380 that was

00:22:42.780 counterfeited

00:22:43.720 or manufactured

00:22:44.700 you know

00:22:45.240 historians believe

00:22:46.220 but you know

00:22:46.940 we have it

00:22:47.860 it's just

00:22:48.280 they don't

00:22:48.760 think it's

00:22:49.060 authentic

00:22:49.420 but you know

00:22:51.000 imagine that

00:22:51.540 you know

00:22:51.720 one of the most

00:22:52.060 famous stoic

00:22:52.680 philosophers

00:22:53.100 Seneca

00:22:53.520 and was

00:22:54.960 you know

00:22:55.440 St. Paul

00:22:56.040 you know

00:22:56.900 writing letters

00:22:57.720 to each other

00:22:58.280 yeah

00:22:58.880 that's how

00:22:59.840 popular it was

00:23:00.960 to have these

00:23:01.780 philosophical debates

00:23:02.820 yeah

00:23:03.160 I would interject

00:23:03.980 there and say

00:23:04.520 that there was

00:23:05.560 a some amount

00:23:06.620 of Jewish

00:23:07.360 involvement

00:23:07.780 in Hellenic

00:23:08.540 philosophy

00:23:09.040 out of

00:23:09.480 what was it

00:23:11.300 Alexandria

00:23:12.160 yeah

00:23:12.940 Alexandria

00:23:13.460 I mean with

00:23:14.040 Philo being a good 0.76

00:23:14.820 example

00:23:15.060 because there were

00:23:15.520 Jewish participants

00:23:16.180 in both

00:23:17.180 Neoplatonic

00:23:17.880 and Stoic

00:23:18.400 schools as well

00:23:19.100 yeah

00:23:19.540 Zeno of Kidium

00:23:20.760 was probably

00:23:21.800 Semitic 0.92

00:23:22.280 Semitic blood 0.88

00:23:23.800 so

00:23:24.620 well yeah

00:23:26.260 the foundations

00:23:26.900 for

00:23:27.380 like Hellenic 0.99

00:23:29.320 Christianity

00:23:29.820 or I guess

00:23:30.500 you could say

00:23:30.840 the Christianization

00:23:31.680 of Hellenism

00:23:32.380 had been laid

00:23:33.420 already with the

00:23:34.900 translation of the

00:23:35.760 Old Testament

00:23:36.460 into the Septuagint

00:23:37.500 in Alexandria

00:23:38.100 and then the

00:23:39.300 subsequent

00:23:39.700 the subsequent

00:23:42.440 exegesis

00:23:43.160 exegetical work

00:23:44.280 that was done

00:23:44.820 by these guys

00:23:45.720 like Philo

00:23:46.380 where they

00:23:47.440 managed to

00:23:48.300 you know

00:23:49.080 especially

00:23:49.420 they managed

00:23:49.900 to weave

00:23:50.620 you know

00:23:52.240 this classic

00:23:53.020 Socratic

00:23:54.160 and Platonic

00:23:54.920 Athenian

00:23:55.760 tradition of

00:23:56.280 philosophy

00:23:56.700 the Logos

00:23:57.580 philosophy

00:23:58.080 really

00:23:58.400 into what

00:23:59.380 they saw

00:23:59.820 as the

00:24:00.300 into

00:24:01.420 the Old

00:24:02.080 Testament

00:24:02.460 as it was

00:24:03.340 translated

00:24:03.660 into the

00:24:04.080 Greek

00:24:04.340 and produced

00:24:05.360 well not

00:24:07.040 exactly

00:24:07.400 analogous

00:24:08.020 a foundational

00:24:09.440 translation

00:24:11.720 or excuse me

00:24:12.700 transition

00:24:13.580 into Christianity

00:24:14.860 for Christian

00:24:16.580 philosophical

00:24:17.040 thought

00:24:17.480 yeah

00:24:19.640 what's

00:24:19.920 interesting

00:24:20.320 is

00:24:20.860 you know

00:24:21.520 you have

00:24:22.180 Josephus

00:24:23.020 Philo

00:24:23.540 we have

00:24:23.800 a lot

00:24:24.180 of famous

00:24:24.760 Hellenized

00:24:25.480 Jews

00:24:25.800 and

00:24:26.900 that whole

00:24:27.620 world

00:24:28.000 of the

00:24:28.220 Eastern Roman

00:24:28.680 Empire

00:24:29.060 was sort

00:24:29.580 of

00:24:29.880 you know

00:24:30.500 destroyed

00:24:30.940 and forgotten

00:24:31.900 I mean

00:24:32.340 the rabbis 0.57

00:24:33.180 turned their

00:24:33.680 back on it

00:24:34.340 after the

00:24:35.120 council of

00:24:35.580 Jamnia 1.00

00:24:35.940 and wanted

00:24:36.440 everything

00:24:36.800 back in the

00:24:37.360 Hebrew

00:24:37.680 you know

00:24:38.460 even though

00:24:38.880 words like

00:24:39.400 synagogue

00:24:39.800 are still

00:24:40.380 Greek

00:24:40.720 and such

00:24:41.320 and you

00:24:43.320 know

00:24:43.800 and

00:24:44.040 anyway

00:24:45.000 that world

00:24:45.420 was destroyed

00:24:46.140 and it's

00:24:46.580 like

00:24:46.800 it's very

00:24:47.240 interesting

00:24:47.680 to you

00:24:49.000 know

00:24:49.400 to bring

00:24:50.040 it back

00:24:50.400 and look

00:24:50.800 at it

00:24:51.200 it's a

00:24:51.560 place

00:24:51.880 where

00:24:52.280 Judaism

00:24:53.540 and the

00:24:54.640 Greek

00:24:54.860 mind

00:24:55.380 European

00:24:55.820 mind

00:24:56.500 you know

00:24:56.880 interacted

00:24:57.480 yeah

00:24:58.300 and

00:24:58.900 because I

00:25:00.820 know me

00:25:01.160 and

00:25:01.320 brother

00:25:02.020 Rufus

00:25:02.620 come from

00:25:03.080 a very

00:25:03.380 Protestant

00:25:03.820 background

00:25:04.460 one of

00:25:05.640 the sad

00:25:05.960 things is

00:25:06.400 where we

00:25:07.080 come from

00:25:07.400 religious

00:25:07.740 you know

00:25:08.140 we tend

00:25:09.340 to not

00:25:09.640 get much

00:25:10.200 of that

00:25:10.520 Greek

00:25:10.880 philosophical

00:25:11.620 background

00:25:12.320 that went

00:25:12.780 into

00:25:13.260 Christianity

00:25:14.620 in the

00:25:15.080 early years

00:25:15.580 so

00:25:15.880 as an

00:25:17.440 older

00:25:17.740 person

00:25:18.200 you know

00:25:18.460 in my

00:25:18.680 30s

00:25:19.040 I mean

00:25:19.220 that was

00:25:19.440 one of

00:25:19.660 the things

00:25:19.820 that brought

00:25:20.060 me back

00:25:20.420 into

00:25:20.620 Christianity

00:25:21.040 was understanding

00:25:22.060 the influence

00:25:23.080 of Greek

00:25:23.460 philosophy

00:25:23.920 and the

00:25:24.580 way concepts

00:25:25.720 like logos

00:25:26.320 how they meant

00:25:26.820 significantly

00:25:27.320 more than

00:25:27.960 they were

00:25:28.560 you know

00:25:28.820 presented

00:25:29.200 in some

00:25:29.560 of the

00:25:29.720 churches

00:25:29.920 I had

00:25:30.320 attended

00:25:30.600 in the

00:25:30.860 past

00:25:31.180 and

00:25:31.340 you know

00:25:32.520 it's

00:25:32.740 not just

00:25:33.120 a loss

00:25:33.600 for whatever

00:25:34.100 other people

00:25:34.720 for our

00:25:35.080 own people

00:25:35.520 I think

00:25:35.820 we've lost

00:25:36.320 something by

00:25:36.780 not being

00:25:37.180 able to

00:25:37.540 understand

00:25:38.040 the heavy

00:25:39.420 European

00:25:40.040 basis

00:25:40.520 of what

00:25:41.500 is always

00:25:42.200 accused of

00:25:42.660 being a

00:25:43.000 purely

00:25:43.240 Semitic 0.92

00:25:43.640 religion

00:25:44.100 the best

00:25:45.660 way I ever

00:25:46.100 heard it

00:25:46.800 put was

00:25:47.280 you know

00:25:47.520 when Paul's

00:25:48.260 writing to

00:25:48.660 the Greeks

00:25:49.160 he's writing

00:25:50.120 in this

00:25:50.500 philosophy

00:25:51.360 I mean

00:25:51.700 look at

00:25:52.080 1 Corinthians

00:25:52.700 13

00:25:53.160 now we see

00:25:53.960 in a

00:25:54.240 glass

00:25:54.920 darkly

00:25:55.540 you know

00:25:56.300 then we

00:25:56.640 shall see

00:25:56.920 face to

00:25:57.320 face

00:25:57.660 it's

00:25:58.040 Platonism

00:25:59.320 you know

00:25:59.720 and then

00:26:00.680 when he

00:26:01.620 writes to

00:26:01.900 the Romans

00:26:02.340 it's all

00:26:02.820 law

00:26:03.240 you know

00:26:03.840 the book

00:26:04.500 of Romans

00:26:04.980 is the book

00:26:05.560 of theology

00:26:06.160 it's all

00:26:06.560 law

00:26:06.900 you know

00:26:08.320 because that's

00:26:08.780 what the

00:26:09.020 Romans

00:26:09.300 you know

00:26:09.600 the Romans

00:26:09.880 were about

00:26:10.200 law

00:26:10.420 Greeks 0.98

00:26:10.660 were about

00:26:11.060 philosophy

00:26:11.640 you know

00:26:12.440 so this

00:26:12.800 is

00:26:12.980 yeah

00:26:13.260 go on

00:26:14.440 make it

00:26:14.720 I didn't

00:26:14.960 mean to

00:26:15.180 cut you

00:26:15.400 and I know

00:26:15.980 I'm sorry

00:26:16.400 I'm hijacking

00:26:17.180 your show

00:26:17.600 here

00:26:17.860 Florian

00:26:19.160 but one of

00:26:19.820 the things

00:26:20.320 that interesting

00:26:20.760 most was

00:26:21.220 like the idea

00:26:21.840 of logos

00:26:23.140 you know

00:26:23.520 was in the

00:26:24.100 beginning

00:26:24.320 was the

00:26:24.640 word

00:26:24.820 and the

00:26:24.980 word

00:26:25.100 was God

00:26:25.520 when you

00:26:25.760 look at

00:26:26.020 the original

00:26:26.520 Greek

00:26:26.880 version

00:26:27.220 of the

00:26:27.920 Greek

00:26:28.160 word

00:26:28.440 logos

00:26:28.800 it means

00:26:29.180 significantly

00:26:29.600 more than

00:26:30.040 just

00:26:30.420 word

00:26:30.760 even though

00:26:31.760 it means

00:26:32.100 that

00:26:32.260 it means

00:26:32.540 something

00:26:32.780 close to

00:26:33.260 almost

00:26:33.480 like

00:26:33.680 Tao

00:26:34.060 or

00:26:34.360 the

00:26:34.920 underlying

00:26:35.540 yeah

00:26:36.620 that means

00:26:38.160 so much

00:26:38.560 more than

00:26:38.940 anything

00:26:39.340 I was ever

00:26:40.060 presented with

00:26:40.780 you know

00:26:41.120 and the

00:26:41.960 places where

00:26:42.560 we had

00:26:42.940 Sunday

00:26:43.220 school

00:26:43.480 as a

00:26:43.740 Protestant

00:26:44.080 so you're

00:26:44.820 telling me

00:26:45.320 that the

00:26:46.320 underlying

00:26:46.980 thing

00:26:47.440 behind

00:26:47.800 things

00:26:48.240 behind

00:26:48.580 everything

00:26:49.040 that rule

00:26:50.200 became

00:26:50.680 you know

00:26:50.960 the flesh

00:26:51.340 and blood

00:26:51.700 and died

00:26:52.020 for us

00:26:52.220 that means

00:26:52.480 significantly

00:26:52.920 more than

00:26:53.520 just saying

00:26:53.940 the word

00:26:54.320 was God

00:26:54.840 that

00:26:55.320 that doctrine

00:26:56.300 is actually

00:26:56.720 what converted

00:26:57.280 me to

00:26:57.560 Christianity

00:26:58.000 intellectually

00:26:58.940 yeah

00:26:59.700 what brought

00:27:00.400 me back

00:27:00.920 yeah

00:27:01.540 and it

00:27:02.520 was like

00:27:02.920 that

00:27:03.140 realization

00:27:03.620 that

00:27:04.220 Jesus

00:27:04.540 Christ

00:27:04.860 is the

00:27:05.200 Logos

00:27:05.600 and that

00:27:05.980 the

00:27:06.120 cosmic

00:27:06.400 order

00:27:06.720 is the

00:27:07.300 Logos

00:27:07.640 yeah

00:27:07.860 is

00:27:08.240 that

00:27:08.620 doctrine

00:27:08.980 is what

00:27:09.300 made

00:27:09.480 me

00:27:09.580 a

00:27:09.720 Christian

00:27:10.020 yeah

00:27:10.600 because

00:27:11.040 significantly

00:27:11.680 more than

00:27:12.340 anything

00:27:12.720 I was ever

00:27:13.220 given as a

00:27:13.760 child

00:27:13.980 that's

00:27:14.240 exactly

00:27:14.540 it

00:27:14.820 yeah

00:27:15.100 and I'm

00:27:15.520 you know

00:27:15.740 I was raised

00:27:16.180 in like

00:27:16.860 Catholic

00:27:17.140 education

00:27:17.640 and like

00:27:18.340 the

00:27:19.300 it's

00:27:19.800 the

00:27:20.380 culture

00:27:20.940 is so

00:27:21.420 poor

00:27:21.760 even in

00:27:22.180 the mainline

00:27:22.640 churches

00:27:22.980 that you

00:27:23.540 know

00:27:23.660 people

00:27:23.960 most people

00:27:24.660 are

00:27:25.180 basically

00:27:25.800 like

00:27:26.200 semi

00:27:26.600 semi

00:27:27.160 you know

00:27:27.960 they don't

00:27:28.800 think that

00:27:29.100 Jesus

00:27:29.320 Christ

00:27:29.600 is God

00:27:30.060 much less

00:27:30.600 do they

00:27:31.140 think he's

00:27:31.520 you know

00:27:31.760 the cosmic

00:27:32.200 order

00:27:32.540 the second

00:27:32.860 person

00:27:33.160 of the

00:27:33.360 holy

00:27:33.560 trinity

00:27:33.920 the foundation

00:27:34.860 for all

00:27:35.440 of logic

00:27:36.520 and order

00:27:37.000 and

00:27:37.900 causality

00:27:38.940 that exists

00:27:39.520 anywhere in

00:27:40.060 the universe

00:27:40.580 yes

00:27:41.800 so much

00:27:42.760 more than

00:27:43.060 what we

00:27:43.300 were taught

00:27:43.700 right

00:27:44.500 exactly

00:27:45.140 wow

00:27:45.820 so we've

00:27:46.100 gotten off

00:27:46.460 on some

00:27:46.680 really great

00:27:47.140 digressions

00:27:47.780 so kind

00:27:48.100 of bringing

00:27:48.360 it back

00:27:50.660 into

00:27:51.000 focus

00:27:51.640 the

00:27:53.000 modernity

00:27:54.360 can really

00:27:54.760 be seen

00:27:55.280 or the

00:27:56.560 onset of

00:27:57.080 modernity

00:27:57.620 in terms

00:27:58.140 of its

00:27:58.380 effects

00:27:58.700 can be

00:27:59.080 seen

00:27:59.420 as

00:27:59.900 really

00:28:01.620 an attempt

00:28:02.160 to destroy

00:28:03.440 and degenerate

00:28:04.300 the existing

00:28:05.060 primarily

00:28:06.340 religious

00:28:06.920 worldviews

00:28:07.720 of European

00:28:08.200 society

00:28:08.800 for the

00:28:09.740 purposes

00:28:10.080 of economic

00:28:11.480 and social

00:28:12.060 control

00:28:12.580 by the

00:28:14.140 moneyed

00:28:14.480 and

00:28:15.420 technocratic

00:28:16.680 elite

00:28:17.120 that we

00:28:17.540 can see

00:28:17.820 now

00:28:17.980 dominate

00:28:18.480 our

00:28:19.660 societies

00:28:20.180 and so

00:28:21.100 the

00:28:21.420 very

00:28:22.420 like

00:28:23.420 if we

00:28:23.680 look around

00:28:24.240 us

00:28:24.480 when we

00:28:24.840 look at

00:28:25.300 the

00:28:25.480 immense

00:28:25.960 degeneracy

00:28:26.840 and depravity

00:28:28.020 of the

00:28:28.560 society

00:28:28.980 it never

00:28:29.620 would have

00:28:29.980 been

00:28:30.100 possible

00:28:30.620 without

00:28:31.200 the

00:28:31.500 destruction

00:28:32.020 of these

00:28:32.700 not even

00:28:33.680 explicit

00:28:34.560 philosophical

00:28:35.300 statements

00:28:35.860 but these

00:28:36.620 pre-philosophical

00:28:37.600 these values

00:28:38.340 right

00:28:39.180 these

00:28:39.500 theological

00:28:40.440 assumptions

00:28:41.040 and presuppositions

00:28:42.020 by which

00:28:42.400 people

00:28:42.720 lead their

00:28:43.780 daily lives

00:28:44.620 you know

00:28:45.340 I mean

00:28:45.580 you could

00:28:46.060 never

00:28:46.540 a very good

00:28:48.880 example is

00:28:49.440 the destruction

00:28:50.000 of language

00:28:50.680 we talk about

00:28:52.000 the logos

00:28:53.100 in Greek

00:28:53.480 meaning word

00:28:54.160 well there's a

00:28:55.640 reason for that

00:28:56.140 it's because

00:28:56.620 language is the

00:28:57.900 very medium

00:28:58.500 by which we're

00:28:59.020 able to express

00:29:00.000 that higher

00:29:00.660 meaning

00:29:00.980 that spiritual

00:29:01.640 reality

00:29:02.140 in the universe

00:29:03.160 around us

00:29:03.900 it points

00:29:05.220 in and of

00:29:05.940 itself

00:29:06.300 language is

00:29:06.940 symbolic

00:29:07.380 in the

00:29:07.840 truest sense

00:29:08.320 because

00:29:08.700 it points

00:29:09.780 beyond

00:29:10.340 itself

00:29:10.920 to a

00:29:11.400 higher

00:29:11.720 spiritual

00:29:12.280 referent

00:29:12.860 and so

00:29:13.840 the

00:29:14.380 degeneration

00:29:15.140 of language

00:29:16.500 not just

00:29:17.160 in terms

00:29:17.540 of the

00:29:17.820 words

00:29:18.100 that we

00:29:18.420 use

00:29:18.680 but the

00:29:19.060 whole

00:29:19.360 medium

00:29:19.880 capital

00:29:20.380 L

00:29:20.620 language

00:29:20.920 the whole

00:29:21.240 medium

00:29:21.760 of

00:29:22.340 communication

00:29:22.980 between

00:29:23.580 members

00:29:23.880 of our

00:29:24.160 society

00:29:24.660 and the

00:29:26.200 atomization

00:29:27.140 through the

00:29:27.560 destruction

00:29:28.040 of mass

00:29:29.940 culture

00:29:30.280 particularly

00:29:30.740 mass

00:29:31.120 religious

00:29:31.460 culture

00:29:31.920 has created

00:29:32.880 this

00:29:33.440 language

00:29:34.960 retardation 0.99

00:29:35.740 where we

00:29:36.160 don't even

00:29:36.580 speak

00:29:37.100 in the

00:29:37.620 same

00:29:38.040 language

00:29:38.400 as most

00:29:38.820 people

00:29:39.160 when we

00:29:39.960 say things

00:29:40.560 like

00:29:40.820 God the

00:29:41.780 word

00:29:42.160 is a

00:29:42.720 perfect

00:29:42.960 example

00:29:43.480 most people

00:29:44.080 that's

00:29:44.760 nonsense

00:29:45.660 they have

00:29:46.400 no clue

00:29:46.860 what that

00:29:47.140 means

00:29:47.400 if they

00:29:47.900 have any

00:29:48.420 clue

00:29:48.660 it's

00:29:49.460 just

00:29:49.960 some 1.00

00:29:50.260 idiocy 1.00

00:29:50.700 which leads 0.83

00:29:52.400 away from

00:29:53.200 God the

00:29:54.180 logos

00:29:54.520 so a good

00:29:55.700 example of

00:29:56.260 this is

00:29:56.520 we can never

00:29:57.280 get to the

00:29:57.840 point where

00:29:58.600 you can say

00:30:00.120 love is

00:30:02.160 love

00:30:02.620 right

00:30:03.600 all love

00:30:04.700 is equal

00:30:05.220 and this

00:30:06.240 means the

00:30:06.760 same

00:30:06.960 this is supposed

00:30:07.400 to mean the

00:30:07.760 same thing

00:30:08.380 as

00:30:08.900 God so

00:30:10.400 loved the

00:30:10.680 world that

00:30:11.020 he gave

00:30:11.320 his only

00:30:11.620 begotten

00:30:12.060 son

00:30:12.340 yeah

00:30:13.380 right

00:30:14.020 never mind

00:30:14.600 that the

00:30:14.920 bible uses

00:30:15.780 what like

00:30:16.240 three different

00:30:16.700 versions of

00:30:17.300 love

00:30:17.480 very different

00:30:18.340 things

00:30:18.780 from contemporary

00:30:20.560 thought

00:30:20.920 exactly

00:30:21.580 yeah there's

00:30:22.480 four different

00:30:23.000 terms that are

00:30:23.840 used in

00:30:24.280 scripture for

00:30:25.040 love we've

00:30:25.700 covered this on

00:30:26.480 the show

00:30:26.820 before

00:30:27.280 so yeah

00:30:28.400 there's very

00:30:29.060 very

00:30:29.600 discrete

00:30:30.720 categories

00:30:31.560 so this

00:30:32.960 is this

00:30:33.460 is all

00:30:33.880 on purpose

00:30:34.980 that you

00:30:35.560 could never

00:30:36.040 get people

00:30:36.820 to implicitly

00:30:37.760 accept these

00:30:38.660 these these

00:30:40.460 soundbites

00:30:40.920 these pieces

00:30:41.380 of propaganda

00:30:42.080 without the

00:30:43.100 destruction of

00:30:44.120 the underlying

00:30:44.780 context upon

00:30:45.980 which the rest

00:30:46.920 of the worldview

00:30:47.960 of christiandom

00:30:49.080 was built

00:30:49.600 so anyway boys

00:30:51.040 any feel free

00:30:53.140 to jump in

00:30:53.540 here

00:30:53.780 oh well

00:30:55.840 yeah i mean

00:30:56.580 you know

00:30:57.200 the original

00:30:58.380 topics like

00:30:59.000 philosophy right

00:31:00.120 and uh

00:31:01.500 you know

00:31:02.080 the like i

00:31:02.760 said philosophy

00:31:03.220 has three

00:31:03.880 toy boy

00:31:04.840 you know you

00:31:05.380 got physios

00:31:06.560 ethos and

00:31:07.380 logos and

00:31:09.060 all these

00:31:09.480 interact you

00:31:10.660 know and

00:31:11.180 so you know

00:31:11.780 what a person

00:31:12.340 believes about

00:31:13.260 uh the human

00:31:14.420 will you know

00:31:15.640 affects you

00:31:16.320 know their

00:31:16.800 basic beliefs

00:31:17.460 about the

00:31:17.880 world and

00:31:18.300 they're all

00:31:18.660 intertwined you

00:31:19.540 can't have

00:31:19.940 one without

00:31:20.320 the other

00:31:20.880 and uh

00:31:22.160 you know so

00:31:22.700 you know if

00:31:23.540 people believe

00:31:24.460 uh that the

00:31:25.160 world is uh

00:31:26.020 you know

00:31:26.240 rational you

00:31:27.060 know fundamentally

00:31:27.600 rational they're

00:31:28.320 going to act

00:31:29.440 behave in a

00:31:30.260 different way

00:31:30.820 than if they

00:31:31.600 believe it's

00:31:32.040 fundamentally

00:31:32.400 irrational and

00:31:34.240 uh you you

00:31:34.920 see a lot of

00:31:35.440 people you know

00:31:36.200 dividing along

00:31:36.980 these lines and

00:31:38.580 um you know so

00:31:39.560 you you can't

00:31:40.600 have philosophy

00:31:41.700 without physics

00:31:42.500 you know without

00:31:43.260 a basic belief

00:31:44.160 about where the

00:31:45.160 world came from

00:31:46.180 you know how

00:31:47.360 does it work and

00:31:48.200 where is it going

00:31:48.940 you know the

00:31:49.980 these beliefs you

00:31:51.120 know change our

00:31:52.020 behavior even if

00:31:53.060 we think that

00:31:53.760 they're completely

00:31:54.660 separate from our

00:31:55.540 behavior yeah

00:31:56.700 the whole

00:31:58.160 teleological view

00:31:59.280 of life is a

00:31:59.960 product of you

00:32:01.240 know what's

00:32:01.740 implicit metaphysics

00:32:02.860 whether we think

00:32:03.600 that or not

00:32:04.160 emotions are just

00:32:05.860 judgments based

00:32:07.000 upon beliefs if

00:32:08.400 you change the

00:32:09.140 beliefs then your

00:32:10.340 emotions change

00:32:11.140 right so you

00:32:12.340 know moderns want 0.96

00:32:13.040 to act like

00:32:13.600 emotions or it's

00:32:14.460 just something that

00:32:15.160 come over them

00:32:15.840 like a storm

00:32:16.640 something they

00:32:17.140 have no uh

00:32:18.560 control over and

00:32:19.920 it's like uh your

00:32:21.000 emotions are coming

00:32:21.860 directly from your

00:32:22.660 beliefs if you

00:32:23.380 change the beliefs

00:32:24.280 you got the

00:32:25.240 emotions taken

00:32:26.220 care of and

00:32:27.740 you know a lot

00:32:28.680 of what what

00:32:29.620 happened was you

00:32:30.760 know with

00:32:31.000 socrates there

00:32:32.120 was this turn

00:32:32.880 toward ethics

00:32:33.900 how do we live

00:32:34.760 our day-to-day

00:32:35.340 lives tell us we

00:32:36.700 need to know you

00:32:37.920 know and uh when

00:32:39.380 socrates died there

00:32:40.920 were all these

00:32:41.220 different schools of

00:32:41.860 philosophy created

00:32:43.260 and each one

00:32:44.320 claimed to uh you

00:32:45.900 know saw socrates

00:32:46.680 in a slightly

00:32:47.320 different way and

00:32:48.140 claimed to be

00:32:48.740 carrying you know

00:32:49.480 his uh tradition

00:32:50.760 and uh you know

00:32:52.420 with aristotle you

00:32:53.740 know the turn

00:32:54.420 was toward uh

00:32:55.980 eudaimonism you

00:32:57.000 know how how do

00:32:58.340 we get happiness

00:32:59.440 you know in this

00:33:00.640 life and so you

00:33:02.060 know the stoics the

00:33:03.000 epicures the

00:33:04.240 peripatetics all the

00:33:05.380 different schools of

00:33:06.300 philosophy were

00:33:07.500 trying to tell people

00:33:08.540 you know how to be

00:33:09.660 happy like uh the

00:33:11.860 academics you know

00:33:13.080 that became the

00:33:13.920 skeptics they would

00:33:15.180 say that you just

00:33:16.260 believe in things too

00:33:17.200 strongly if you

00:33:18.560 would calm down and

00:33:19.500 stop believing in

00:33:20.340 things so strongly you

00:33:21.460 could have tranquility

00:33:22.460 or ataraxia

00:33:23.540 and then you know

00:33:25.220 the the epicures

00:33:26.240 would say that you

00:33:27.520 know the gods have

00:33:28.360 already given you

00:33:29.060 everything you need

00:33:29.780 for happiness and

00:33:30.680 you can found it

00:33:31.520 you know just ask you

00:33:33.000 know is this pleasure

00:33:34.200 necessary and only

00:33:36.020 indulge the necessary

00:33:37.020 ones and you can be

00:33:38.040 happy but you have to

00:33:39.140 withdraw from the

00:33:40.160 world and the stoics

00:33:42.360 would say well you

00:33:43.120 need you're a social

00:33:44.080 creature you need to

00:33:45.040 get in there and the

00:33:46.360 only thing that's good

00:33:47.140 all the time is

00:33:47.920 virtue you know and

00:33:49.560 uh you know you need

00:33:51.080 to pursue virtue as

00:33:52.220 your prime you know

00:33:53.620 goal and uh and

00:33:55.860 virtue is the only

00:33:56.560 thing that's good to

00:33:57.200 all people all the

00:33:58.040 time you know

00:33:58.940 everything else you

00:33:59.580 can have too much or

00:34:00.280 too little or it can

00:34:01.300 be at the wrong time

00:34:02.180 and so you know and

00:34:04.820 uh you would get uh

00:34:06.260 uh peace and

00:34:07.860 tranquility or uh

00:34:09.660 apathia a lack of

00:34:10.940 disturbance you know

00:34:12.320 if you pursued the

00:34:13.160 stoics so you know

00:34:14.680 this is uh you know

00:34:16.020 this is what philosophy

00:34:16.980 was it wasn't people

00:34:18.440 arguing about you

00:34:20.100 know how many angels

00:34:21.060 can dance on the head

00:34:21.900 of a pin or perfect

00:34:23.460 circles or you know

00:34:25.360 racing against tortoises

00:34:27.000 you know it wasn't

00:34:28.720 you know that those

00:34:29.760 were just aspects of

00:34:31.040 you know the real

00:34:31.900 meat and potatoes was

00:34:33.240 you know what do I

00:34:34.500 do today how do I

00:34:35.340 live today you know

00:34:36.980 what do I believe

00:34:38.000 happiness misonious

00:34:39.720 know is uh was

00:34:41.180 understood very

00:34:41.980 differently by the

00:34:43.020 ancients than by

00:34:44.160 moderns yeah you

00:34:46.380 you demonism literally

00:34:47.760 means what good

00:34:48.640 personality you know

00:34:49.960 demon means

00:34:50.500 personality right

00:34:51.680 you know it's uh

00:34:53.320 you know a flowing

00:34:54.440 uh where things flow

00:34:55.940 uh the way that

00:34:56.760 they're supposed to

00:34:57.620 is the best I could

00:34:59.140 describe it yeah

00:35:00.280 you're you're right

00:35:00.900 happiness today means

00:35:02.700 what uh satisfaction

00:35:03.980 of hedonistic yeah

00:35:05.740 uh delights or

00:35:07.080 something maximization

00:35:08.300 of pleasure or

00:35:09.220 something like oh

00:35:09.900 yeah just pleasure

00:35:10.960 present and it's

00:35:12.460 divorced from the

00:35:13.680 the deliberate the

00:35:15.260 deliberate life the

00:35:16.300 examined life so

00:35:17.500 you don't you don't

00:35:19.460 reflect on the

00:35:20.320 things that give

00:35:21.200 you pleasure from

00:35:22.840 the context of a

00:35:24.080 of a word of a

00:35:24.900 broader worldview of

00:35:26.080 how should I be

00:35:26.720 living because you

00:35:28.260 shouldn't be there

00:35:29.240 shouldn't be happiness

00:35:30.240 to be found in in

00:35:31.820 something like I

00:35:32.760 don't know sodomy

00:35:33.460 yeah that well the

00:35:36.260 epicures were always

00:35:37.260 accused of being a

00:35:38.680 bunch of hedonists

00:35:39.720 uh but uh you know

00:35:41.320 they weren't exactly a

00:35:42.740 bunch of hedonists

00:35:43.540 what they believed was

00:35:44.900 that uh you know the

00:35:45.880 gods wouldn't set you

00:35:46.820 up for failure so

00:35:48.840 uh they've given

00:35:50.060 you um you know the

00:35:51.480 ability to enjoy uh

00:35:52.960 food uh good

00:35:54.000 conversation friendship

00:35:55.220 uh you know uh you 0.61

00:35:58.160 know uh sex uh you 0.88

00:36:00.020 know sleep and um you 0.93

00:36:02.380 know what where you

00:36:03.240 mess up is by making

00:36:04.340 illogical choices with

00:36:05.560 these and you know you

00:36:06.760 need the touchstone of

00:36:07.700 asking are these uh

00:36:09.020 necessary and proper

00:36:10.020 you know whenever you

00:36:10.860 deal with pleasure but

00:36:12.040 those are the epicures

00:36:12.920 you know uh Shaftesbury

00:36:15.000 uh was a full-blown

00:36:17.200 philosopher uh stoic that

00:36:18.980 lived in uh the 17th

00:36:20.520 century England his

00:36:21.780 grandfather was the

00:36:22.780 mentor of John Locke and

00:36:25.040 uh in the way he would

00:36:26.060 put it is like there's

00:36:26.880 only ever been two

00:36:27.740 philosophies a social and

00:36:29.520 an asocial you know and

00:36:31.240 the epicures were sort of

00:36:32.320 asocial they were about

00:36:33.440 withdrawing from this

00:36:34.620 world and uh you know

00:36:36.680 the the stoics he would 0.87

00:36:37.760 say are social yeah you

00:36:39.480 know they engaged often to

00:36:41.320 their detriment you

00:36:42.480 know like Seneca had to

00:36:44.160 commit suicide you know

00:36:45.320 to spare his family yeah

00:36:46.900 you know and uh because

00:36:49.140 of you know Caesar and

00:36:51.740 you can read about this

00:36:52.660 in Tacitus you know uh

00:36:54.300 the death of uh Seneca so

00:36:56.660 uh you know none of these

00:36:59.100 men you know have the

00:37:00.480 guarantee for having an

00:37:01.640 easy life but uh every one

00:37:04.660 of them has the opportunity

00:37:05.880 to practice virtue every

00:37:07.800 single one of these

00:37:08.480 opportunities what we see

00:37:09.720 as like uh problems well

00:37:12.580 there are opportunities to

00:37:13.560 practice virtue and the

00:37:15.520 more you practice it the

00:37:16.680 better you are at it so

00:37:18.080 like next time you're in

00:37:19.380 the line at the bank just

00:37:20.940 say you know this is the

00:37:21.960 price I pay for tranquility

00:37:23.800 you know and you'll feel a

00:37:25.640 lot better you know because

00:37:26.920 now standing in line has a

00:37:28.820 purpose it's it's making it

00:37:30.760 easier for you to become

00:37:31.800 tranquil you know it's it's

00:37:33.880 bringing happiness or

00:37:35.640 teaching you training you to

00:37:37.060 be happy yeah that's it I

00:37:40.380 mean the meaning I mean the

00:37:41.900 word of thesis in Greek I

00:37:43.340 mean it's the same term uh

00:37:45.480 is used to describe what a

00:37:47.100 monk does in his labor as

00:37:48.840 what a soldier does when he

00:37:49.860 trains for battle or what an

00:37:51.320 athlete does when he trains

00:37:52.280 to compete uh it's it's

00:37:54.480 discipline right and so

00:37:56.020 that when you're in line uh

00:37:58.760 at the U.S. post office and 0.97

00:38:00.340 you're having the urge to kill 0.99

00:38:02.040 your local mailman and you 0.93

00:38:03.300 suppress it you suppress that

00:38:04.920 anger because you know that

00:38:06.540 it's better to be patient and

00:38:08.440 it's better to alienate

00:38:09.480 yourself from the the petty

00:38:10.720 passions of your own ego and

00:38:12.020 take things with a more

00:38:13.360 detached or rational approach

00:38:14.580 that's an aesthetic labor you

00:38:16.260 know that's that's funny that

00:38:17.380 you use that word you know

00:38:19.140 because chaff disperry wrote

00:38:20.260 his own version of

00:38:21.120 meditations and it was called

00:38:22.560 the askamata you know the

00:38:24.280 regimen you know again where

00:38:26.340 we get a skis you know exactly

00:38:28.200 exactly and so that's all the

00:38:30.360 way back to what we first

00:38:31.460 talked about the opening

00:38:32.940 statement was that prayer and

00:38:35.440 fasting and all of these

00:38:36.480 intensification these are

00:38:37.780 just ascetic tools these are

00:38:39.780 techniques that we use to

00:38:41.360 um discipline our souls

00:38:43.320 essentially in the pursuit of

00:38:44.740 virtue to better live out in

00:38:46.980 our lives that grace which

00:38:48.320 christ has obtained for us in

00:38:50.020 his ultimate ascetic labor his

00:38:51.420 passion on the cross his

00:38:53.000 heroine of hell and his

00:38:53.860 resurrection um and so i

00:38:56.180 mean a sense of self-mastery i

00:38:57.600 mean it almost comes for people

00:38:59.160 who aren't christian i mean it's

00:39:00.300 very much almost a Nietzschean

00:39:01.520 sense of becoming yourself or

00:39:02.920 becoming who you're meant to

00:39:04.300 be you know look at all the

00:39:07.000 excuses that people have you

00:39:09.020 know for a placing evil outside

00:39:11.140 their locus of control you know

00:39:12.880 it's not their fault you know

00:39:14.520 it's like oh it's because of my

00:39:15.800 past or you know it's like well

00:39:17.960 the past is not with us anymore

00:39:19.740 right you know it's like all these

00:39:22.580 excuses to place good and evil

00:39:24.680 outside of their moral control and

00:39:27.520 uh you know the stoics will just

00:39:29.320 tell you the only good is moral

00:39:31.420 good the good that you choose

00:39:33.100 you know there's no such thing as

00:39:34.880 served evil yeah which like you

00:39:36.680 said i mean it sort of knocks the

00:39:38.240 table over and says we're going to

00:39:39.480 start over it's about how i i

00:39:41.480 behave with every choice as an

00:39:43.220 individual and it's a very

00:39:44.120 different way to uh view the world

00:39:46.140 than what most of us were

00:39:47.280 implicitly brought up with it's a

00:39:49.720 manly way you know that's why 0.53

00:39:51.020 stoicism spread you know among the

00:39:53.800 romans and the legionaries it's a

00:39:55.480 manly way it's like quit your

00:39:56.720 bitching yeah it was a way of 1.00

00:39:58.480 looking at the world yeah i mean

00:40:00.740 was it uh epictetus said life is a

00:40:02.560 soldier's duty upon the earth i mean

00:40:04.300 that's a very fundamentally different

00:40:07.240 way from what we were taught today to

00:40:09.120 look at the world and it's you know

00:40:10.840 in many ways it's a very christian way

00:40:12.300 to look at life saying what you're

00:40:14.540 doing is duty and an eternal struggle

00:40:16.900 so there's a lot of this stop

00:40:18.800 bitching go on sir well there's a lot 1.00

00:40:21.080 of this in the aeneid like we're

00:40:22.300 talking about the romans the aeneid

00:40:23.740 was essentially virgil trying to 0.90

00:40:26.760 recapture that quit your bitching 1.00

00:40:28.680 attitude that the early roman 0.99

00:40:30.920 farmers and very early roman they

00:40:34.140 weren't even really the roman

00:40:34.980 legionnaires they were just roman 0.99

00:40:36.680 militias that slowly fought their way

00:40:39.120 across italy yeah that was their

00:40:41.520 mentality that was their entire

00:40:42.920 world view what aurelius was trying

00:40:44.960 to recapture was what you know the

00:40:48.300 first 200 years of rome was like was

00:40:50.600 this middling constantly struggling 0.93

00:40:53.780 city-state with some surrounding

00:40:56.760 mountains that was consistently having

00:40:59.660 to fall back on this immense discipline

00:41:03.680 from its king all the way down to its

00:41:07.420 yeoman farmer outside the city yeah

00:41:10.180 it's interesting how little of

00:41:12.060 humanity has ever changed right with

00:41:14.320 none right i mean we'll get into that

00:41:16.060 where i mean you and that i mean that

00:41:18.180 was an integrated society like that

00:41:20.360 that entire roman society of the the 1.00

00:41:23.320 aeneid essentially tries to recapture

00:41:25.340 through some mythologizing which is

00:41:27.440 also important to any society but it's

00:41:30.060 it was this fully integrated full i

00:41:32.480 mean in the modern sense integralist

00:41:34.400 society

00:41:35.120 yeah yeah it was communitarian in a

00:41:37.860 sense that we've never had in the

00:41:39.160 united states at least not for over a

00:41:40.620 century and a half

00:41:41.180 yeah that brings up to me an

00:41:43.260 interesting question is do you think

00:41:45.600 uh i'm curious what you guys take do

00:41:47.420 you think that sort of different

00:41:48.920 casts or strata of society require

00:41:52.340 different worldviews or philosophical

00:41:54.940 outlooks because we're describing in

00:41:57.340 terms of stoicism is very befitting to a

00:42:00.360 a warrior caste and you see that

00:42:02.660 elsewhere in the world as well you saw

00:42:04.640 it in arian india and you see it in

00:42:06.880 japan too where the the in japan the

00:42:10.020 samurai caste had a very simplistic form

00:42:12.960 of their buddhism of zen buddhism and

00:42:15.880 then you had the upper classes

00:42:17.720 practicing shinto and other more

00:42:20.560 esoteric forms well if i can if i can

00:42:24.460 address that there's there's uh i'll

00:42:26.140 give you an answer and then it's funny

00:42:27.720 what you were saying making is uh i

00:42:29.640 think providential um i would say that

00:42:32.200 um the very error and disintegration

00:42:36.140 literally the disintegration of like a

00:42:38.220 social logos of a worldview comes when

00:42:40.800 you introduce that separation that

00:42:42.760 bifurcation and worldview between the

00:42:45.000 peasant and the aristocrat and the

00:42:47.120 priest interesting the idea is the the

00:42:49.160 whole purpose of like in the ancient

00:42:50.420 world the liturgy is that the liturgy is

00:42:52.500 the great equalizer it's the symbolic

00:42:54.300 expression of your entire worldview the

00:42:56.660 meeting place of heaven and earth we're

00:42:58.280 at the chalice of the blood of christ

00:43:00.400 everyone is equal in their participation

00:43:02.980 in the logos made flesh the one body the

00:43:05.980 one man you know uh servant and king

00:43:08.660 jesus christ and so i think that a lot

00:43:10.900 of the problems that we have now where

00:43:12.980 our elites have um alienated their

00:43:15.340 themselves from their their population

00:43:17.440 that they're ruling over um is precisely

00:43:20.560 a result of the loss of that integrated

00:43:22.720 worldview which is the crowning strength

00:43:25.240 of uh european society and it's why we see

00:43:28.680 that in the middle ages and in the

00:43:30.080 classical world there was such an intense

00:43:32.120 and fiery zeal to to defend any attacks

00:43:36.180 on that integrated worldview because they

00:43:38.220 knew that if that separation were to

00:43:40.380 occur at a fundamental level that

00:43:42.480 everything would just disintegrate into

00:43:43.880 nothingness so before we get back on

00:43:45.820 that what you were saying men can is

00:43:47.040 actually um today is the feast of the

00:43:49.120 great martyr saint theodore of uh tyro

00:43:51.040 and the um reading that we had today in

00:43:54.120 in liturgy is second timothy um two one

00:43:58.100 to ten i'll read it real quick you

00:44:01.120 therefore my son be strong in the grace

00:44:03.040 that is in christ jesus and the things

00:44:05.360 that you have heard from me among many

00:44:06.860 witnesses commit these to faithful men

00:44:09.320 who will be able to teach others also

00:44:10.960 you therefore must endure hardship as a

00:44:13.500 good soldier of jesus christ no one

00:44:15.700 engaged in warfare entangles himself

00:44:17.540 with the affairs of this life that he

00:44:19.280 may please him who enlisted him as a

00:44:21.040 soldier and also if anyone competes in

00:44:23.360 athletics he is not crown unless he

00:44:25.320 competes according to the rules the

00:44:27.060 hard-working farmer must be first to

00:44:28.800 partake of the crops consider what i say

00:44:31.260 and may the lord give you understanding

00:44:33.320 in all things remember that jesus christ

00:44:35.400 to the seed of david was raised from

00:44:36.800 the dead according to my gospel for

00:44:38.840 which i suffer trouble as an evil doer

00:44:40.580 even to the point of chains but the

00:44:42.860 word of god is not chained therefore i

00:44:45.220 endure all things for the sake of the

00:44:46.600 elect that they may also obtain the

00:44:48.080 salvation which is in christ jesus with

00:44:49.640 eternal glory amen so this world this is

00:44:53.700 at the heart and and center of

00:44:55.400 christianity right from the lips of

00:44:57.260 saint paul and so there's a huge

00:45:00.020 commensurability between what saint paul

00:45:02.500 is saying and the prevailing thought of

00:45:04.600 the hellenic world at the time because

00:45:06.380 people were work as the civilization began

00:45:09.080 to fluoresce and develop you know people

00:45:11.340 were realizing that the the folk with

00:45:14.180 traditions the paganism it didn't offer

00:45:16.740 this this comprehensive worldview it

00:45:19.180 didn't give you this transcendent

00:45:22.180 sacralization of of your life and that

00:45:25.260 is what the whole purpose of this podcast

00:45:28.080 is to try and give people like a little

00:45:29.760 bit of the the seed of that gospel

00:45:31.740 where they can the only way that we can

00:45:34.600 actually rebuke the wickedness that has

00:45:36.900 come upon our society is if we identify

00:45:39.100 that and and ultimately i think it's a

00:45:40.960 spiritual it's an anti-logos mentality

00:45:43.200 it's the destruction of this logos and we

00:45:45.480 have to strive to instantiate that

00:45:47.760 discipline life the kingdom of heaven

00:45:50.200 within our own our own selves and so this

00:45:54.700 is why philosophy is so important is

00:45:56.320 because you know it's um i think uh george

00:46:00.520 lincoln rockwell talked about how he was

00:46:02.680 using this analogy for political movements

00:46:04.220 and he was saying that you know you can

00:46:05.920 take a look at a firecracker where when

00:46:08.100 you lighten and explodes you have unfocused

00:46:10.220 energy which is dispersed in all directions

00:46:12.020 and it makes a loud noise and it's

00:46:14.060 impressive but it ultimately has no uh force

00:46:17.660 then if you look at the barrel of a rifle

00:46:20.060 uh the explosion that happens after the

00:46:23.260 cartridge is detonated because it's focused

00:46:25.200 and channeled and directed to the grooves

00:46:27.260 of the rifling produces a much more

00:46:29.280 precise and effect effective the force

00:46:32.340 of the projectile uh that is able to

00:46:34.980 accomplish many many great things

00:46:36.800 florian i think we're gonna duck out

00:46:40.220 real quick you know we gotta we gotta do a

00:46:42.360 recording of rebel yale thanks for

00:46:43.880 having us on a real pleasure boys a real

00:46:45.680 pleasure boy yeah definitely hey i had a

00:46:47.340 lot of fun and i'd love to come back

00:46:48.980 anytime for you absolutely you're both

00:46:50.680 more than welcome we'll have to have you

00:46:52.060 back on one day thank you and we need to

00:46:54.000 steal your gas yeah let's get we'll get in

00:46:57.660 touch uh i'll send you a message here on

00:46:59.800 the on sky yeah you should have send it to

00:47:01.980 make and uh yeah okay sure i posted my

00:47:04.720 email there um oh perfect perfect yeah and

00:47:07.700 i'll post it again in the chat for this

00:47:09.300 one brother well thank you guys good talk

00:47:11.540 you guys later yeah take care guys bye

00:47:14.240 bye thank you very much to our uh our

00:47:17.260 outgoing guests so uh hans nick did you

00:47:20.600 uh have any uh snappy remarks yeah well

00:47:23.100 what were you saying there is i found

00:47:24.840 very interesting uh i so you would you

00:47:28.620 describe this as sort of a unity between

00:47:30.600 the esoteric and the exoteric yeah i would

00:47:34.160 i would exactly describe it as that i think

00:47:37.240 that um like it comes because it doesn't

00:47:40.900 i'm sorry no please go ahead doesn't

00:47:42.780 preclude exactly what i'm what i'm saying

00:47:44.860 is that you can have sort of different

00:47:48.320 applications of the worldview that are

00:47:50.480 more narrowed for people i mean obviously

00:47:53.240 the peasantry is is not the priest class 0.85

00:47:55.840 they're not their understanding is not as

00:47:59.560 sophisticated but they can still

00:48:01.360 participate in the same body the same

00:48:03.560 worldview the same the same living faith

00:48:06.820 so to speak right um i would i would say

00:48:09.360 that it's exactly that and there's two

00:48:11.300 parts to this one it has to do with man's

00:48:14.300 own individual anthropology and that

00:48:16.920 worldview and then two it has to do with

00:48:18.980 the application of that to the body of

00:48:20.500 christ so because if we if we believe

00:48:22.400 that christ is the logos and we think

00:48:24.200 take that as the ultimate foundation for

00:48:26.380 you know kind of a christian nationalist

00:48:28.140 worldview or whatever then it's perfectly

00:48:31.600 uh legitimate we know that there are

00:48:34.040 different parts of the body and saint paul

00:48:35.820 talks about this quite explicitly and so

00:48:37.860 of course you know the head and the mouth

00:48:39.700 which rules over and is the the crown of

00:48:42.120 the body uh is endowed with its own

00:48:44.980 ability and its own skill and its own

00:48:46.820 level of uh understanding and initiation

00:48:49.880 into the mysteries uh but the foot or the

00:48:53.200 hand you know is no less initiated into the

00:48:55.960 holistic form of the body than the mouth

00:48:58.280 or the head or the eyes are but it serves a

00:49:00.800 different function and it's it's telos is

00:49:03.420 geared differently in terms of its

00:49:05.520 operation but the overall end is harmony

00:49:08.960 with the rest of the living organism and

00:49:11.380 the reason why this is possible is that

00:49:13.580 in the uh in the eastern view of man

00:49:15.940 there is it's a tripartite soul right and

00:49:18.680 so you don't just have the body and spirit

00:49:21.180 body and soul you know your mind you have

00:49:23.460 something that's above the mind something

00:49:24.840 that's above the intellect that the

00:49:27.200 intellect itself is conditioned based upon

00:49:29.540 the heart that it's apprehension its use

00:49:32.500 of language comes from the presuppositions

00:49:34.940 that are super rational uh and so it's man's

00:49:38.340 ability to directly interact with the holy

00:49:41.300 spirit in his heart through the gospel and

00:49:43.980 communion with the church which is what

00:49:46.640 enables the peasant and the king despite

00:49:50.360 their vastly different upbringing and

00:49:52.780 worldview and so on um to operate with the

00:49:56.580 same end because they have they have that

00:49:59.040 one mind soboranos is the is the term in

00:50:02.020 in slavonic it's the uh the horse the

00:50:05.100 carriage and the rider that's it

00:50:07.220 we said tripartite i mean the the way i

00:50:11.480 would describe traditional society for

00:50:15.540 pretty much everyone on the eurasian

00:50:17.720 continent from japan to a lot of indo-aryan

00:50:21.220 india to a huge extent indo-european

00:50:25.220 europe uh or pie europe would be uh the

00:50:29.180 tripartite society or tri-caste society

00:50:31.440 and anthropologically there is almost no

00:50:35.800 deviation at least within eurasia from

00:50:38.740 that practically none and in order in the

00:50:42.560 idea that we're going to break those

00:50:45.200 bonds we're going to make peasants into 0.96

00:50:48.160 our our priest cast and our priest cast

00:50:50.340 have larp's presence and completely

00:50:52.380 diminished what warriors were and what

00:50:54.740 warriors are is part of the reason why i i

00:50:58.820 think that society is slowly failing and

00:51:01.940 that christianity is slowly failing

00:51:03.900 christianity needs to rest on a 0.92

00:51:08.120 traditional societal structure to

00:51:09.880 properly implement itself and for people

00:51:12.820 to properly follow it so that i don't know

00:51:15.580 if the the modernist or the you know the

00:51:19.180 attacks on christianity modernity aren't

00:51:21.520 always attacks on christianity more and

00:51:24.000 more it comes across as diminishing society

00:51:27.280 under christianity and then there will be

00:51:31.340 no one left to actively practice or preach

00:51:35.000 the word of god or to live by the

00:51:38.320 philosophical aphorisms or the

00:51:40.720 philosophical strength of the bible

00:51:42.820 yeah i would agree and i think that it's

00:51:46.720 it's a synergistic relationship right i

00:51:50.200 mean if if you're a christian you believe

00:51:52.160 that there's no conflict between spirit

00:51:54.700 and matter and that the incarnation is the

00:51:57.280 strongest proof of that that the most high

00:51:59.980 has come and deified the human form and 0.95

00:52:02.260 even the corrupt human form that's that's 0.91

00:52:04.860 bound for death that he has redeemed it by 0.52

00:52:07.000 accepting it upon himself and so what that

00:52:09.440 means is that um it attests a to the fact

00:52:12.580 that the physical and the spiritual are in

00:52:16.180 a synergetic a synergistic relationship they

00:52:18.680 constantly interact with one another they're

00:52:20.980 created at the same time at the moment of

00:52:23.100 conception um but that yeah you can buy well

00:52:27.080 it's like a libido dominandi right if you

00:52:29.140 just control man's base passions you can use

00:52:32.240 these as the most effective technique to

00:52:33.980 attack the highest spiritual realms i mean if

00:52:36.780 we look at you know the sexual scandals in

00:52:39.000 the church and all that i mean you don't

00:52:40.880 it doesn't even matter if someone is

00:52:43.000 maybe preaching like an orthodox gospel if 0.98

00:52:45.080 like they're like sexually degenerate you

00:52:47.840 know he doesn't it's all for not well that

00:52:50.320 that brings me to a perfect segue and i

00:52:52.620 said here's a i guess what i'd like to ask

00:52:55.680 is you have this holistic society you have

00:52:59.840 the traditional society and where where does

00:53:02.920 the fissure come where does the break come

00:53:04.780 and i have a quote one of my favorite quotes

00:53:07.380 from the bhagadvat gita uh out i'm sure you

00:53:10.400 can provide for you in a bible quote or

00:53:12.360 something after this but out of the

00:53:14.920 corruption of women proceeds the corruption 1.00

00:53:17.060 of races out of the corruption of races the 0.97

00:53:19.660 loss of memory out of the loss of memory the

00:53:22.260 loss of understanding and out of this all

00:53:24.560 evil

00:53:24.900 yeah i can't i can't give you a snappy bible 0.68

00:53:29.860 quote but that's pretty much

00:53:31.060 yes sorry yeah it's i just teasing you

00:53:34.340 man

00:53:34.540 you're fair enough yeah no it's um go ahead

00:53:37.660 please what do you think about that i think

00:53:39.560 that's the best bang on i mean that's yeah

00:53:41.380 because i believe that that corresponds

00:53:42.800 exactly with the libido namanandi uh thesis

00:53:46.080 of jones well i guess probably to his book

00:53:49.680 specifically maybe be degenerate moderns but

00:53:52.680 they i mean they overlap jones is

00:53:54.260 frequently covering the same material from

00:53:56.900 different angles but that that that seems to

00:54:01.020 be i think the the golden ticket to

00:54:03.640 understanding because i i've read many

00:54:05.720 different accounts of of modernism and

00:54:08.260 where it comes from but i i really don't

00:54:10.800 find any to be as convincing as as jones's

00:54:14.380 accounts and it's corroborated from

00:54:16.100 who you had the bhagadvat gita it's

00:54:18.120 thousands of years old the same the same

00:54:21.040 principles it's a natural law precisely

00:54:23.240 this i mean we this is exactly what

00:54:25.420 genesis is about is that um you know adam

00:54:27.860 falls basically because the serpent uses

00:54:31.140 his relationship with eve in order to

00:54:33.060 induce him into unmanly acquiescence to

00:54:35.420 his woman's pleasures essentially um and

00:54:39.280 it's this this uh fall like with everything

00:54:44.700 that you read in orthodox spirituality the

00:54:46.800 introduction to fasting why do we fast well

00:54:49.180 because fasting is the first law of god

00:54:50.940 don't eat the fruit that's the first law of

00:54:54.280 god and it was by the violation of that

00:54:56.220 primordial law of god the indulging in um

00:55:00.000 the physical passion but it's the pride

00:55:01.820 that that this physical passion will lead

00:55:03.980 to a knowledge of good and evil to this

00:55:06.480 you know ascended state this false vision

00:55:09.180 of what it means to be deific um that

00:55:12.020 leads to man's fall from grace and his loss

00:55:14.580 of direct apprehension of the natural law of

00:55:17.160 the spiritual realm of paradise um and so

00:55:21.120 please go ahead yeah well going from one

00:55:24.300 thing i did want to get into is the

00:55:26.180 relationship between modernism and so

00:55:29.060 called post-modernism and going off of

00:55:33.100 this quote uh regarding the loss of memory

00:55:36.360 and how loss of memory precedes the loss of

00:55:39.240 understanding i think that because i i'm a

00:55:42.620 student of literature and while there's

00:55:45.700 plenty of modernist literature that i'm not

00:55:48.700 so fond of there's plenty that i am fond

00:55:51.360 of uh particularly joyce and pound

00:55:54.720 lewis uh but the thing about the thing

00:55:58.420 of modernism that you see is this acute

00:56:02.100 understanding of the relationship to the

00:56:04.420 past and how it's starting to be lost

00:56:07.080 and if i was to define post-modernism at

00:56:10.600 least from a literary perspective it's when

00:56:13.080 that that break has fully been completed

00:56:15.440 so i'm curious your guys take on that bang

00:56:18.500 on i think that's absolutely correct and

00:56:20.720 i think this is totally 100 percent in

00:56:23.020 keeping with the entire history of the

00:56:24.840 old and the new testament where the whole

00:56:26.980 the whole theme of the old testament is

00:56:29.260 remembrance and the word in in believe is

00:56:32.180 greek it could be it could be hebrew but

00:56:33.980 anamnesis is the term so when you see in

00:56:37.460 the old testament it says god remembered his

00:56:39.480 covenant the word that they're using is

00:56:41.800 anamnesis and so anamnesis is not just

00:56:44.940 go i have to go to the store i remember

00:56:46.740 that i need some grapes or whatever

00:56:47.880 uh it's like a an iconic recall and so

00:56:52.180 it's a recall where you enter into the

00:56:54.740 spiritual reality of that memory in an

00:56:57.700 unbroken state and so like the liturgy when

00:57:01.240 you have a feast day in remembrance of

00:57:03.160 someone that means that that living spirit

00:57:06.220 that animated that person comes to bear in

00:57:08.940 the reality of the liturgical world and so

00:57:11.720 when we you know have let's say we

00:57:13.300 recently celebrated the sunday of the

00:57:15.200 last judgment right that's an event that

00:57:17.040 will come will we participate in that

00:57:18.980 truly in in like an eschatological in a

00:57:21.460 spiritual way at the liturgy that that's

00:57:24.020 what's going on there is the integration

00:57:26.620 into the the divine form the the the divine

00:57:32.560 idea that is to come of the last judgment

00:57:35.400 and so it's again i think that that's

00:57:38.260 precisely what happens is and what we see

00:57:40.460 in the old testament is that when people

00:57:42.680 lose that remembrance which occurs through

00:57:45.060 familial bonds you know through organized

00:57:47.220 worship through um you know your

00:57:49.300 philosophy through ethical living because

00:57:51.480 they're seduced by um you know idolatry which 0.70

00:57:54.440 is always linked with sexual uh deviancy um

00:57:57.760 you know gluttony uh drunkenness this kind

00:57:59.920 of stuff uh women um they forget who they 1.00

00:58:04.000 are and they gets to the point where god

00:58:06.420 sends the prophets because they can't they

00:58:07.840 don't even realize that um yahweh is like a

00:58:11.740 different god from baal they don't even 1.00

00:58:15.320 remember they forget like their own

00:58:17.500 genealogy many of these tribes right and

00:58:21.140 so it's precisely this alienation from that

00:58:23.580 living tradition that you're in that you're

00:58:25.500 supposed to be initiated into that's

00:58:26.960 bequeathed unto you right that produces

00:58:29.240 this uh societal cataclysmic collapse right

00:58:33.180 that the degeneration of social capital

00:58:35.300 comes from the fact that there isn't that

00:58:37.300 shared anamnesis that remembrance of

00:58:39.280 who you are and that participation in that

00:58:41.920 uh reality that bringing of that past into

00:58:45.400 its uh modern instantiation a kind of um

00:58:48.780 relative absolutism so to speak

00:58:51.680 and you see the exact same thing in the

00:58:56.000 literary and artistic traditions you see

00:58:58.300 that without continual engagement with with

00:59:02.540 that body that had come that had been built

00:59:05.620 upon and come first uh it becomes almost

00:59:08.600 incomprehensible to people and you can

00:59:10.480 you can sell a urinal at an art show for

00:59:13.160 millions of dollars right that's it and

00:59:16.700 what i would suggest is is that this

00:59:18.480 reality it's more um like the philosophy is

00:59:22.800 just the manifestation of like the more

00:59:24.960 subtle spiritual reality that a lot of this

00:59:27.600 is operating not based on like explicit oh

00:59:30.820 like i'm a marxist now so i'm going to

00:59:32.320 abandon all of my preconceived notions of

00:59:34.280 tradition um but like the implicit the

00:59:37.400 subtle like day-to-day living where it's

00:59:39.720 it's just part of like the wallpaper and

00:59:41.660 the background that you grow up in and

00:59:43.800 that's why this society has become so

00:59:45.640 degenerate and um like satanic and 0.74

00:59:48.260 twisted is because of the ability to

00:59:51.060 project this worldview through mass

00:59:52.840 propaganda through mass media people

00:59:54.880 just grow up saturated in these

00:59:57.100 presuppositions that you know freedom of

00:59:59.600 choice is everything that pursuit of

01:00:02.080 pleasures hedonistic happiness this is

01:00:04.360 the goal of life because they see this

01:00:06.360 everywhere there's no escape from it and

01:00:08.980 this fragmentation with this atomization

01:00:10.860 what it does uh this this democratization of

01:00:14.080 theology and philosophy it it's like i'm a

01:00:17.620 philosopher's stone right if everything can

01:00:19.700 be transmuted uh into gold then gold is

01:00:22.600 worthless there's no superior quality it's

01:00:26.360 just all equal and so right with and so

01:00:29.200 it's like if you think about um like the

01:00:31.240 way that the media operates uh like a

01:00:33.460 really good example i was thinking about

01:00:34.520 this in the um you had the episode uh

01:00:37.240 radical boomerism on the mandalay bay

01:00:38.880 shooting and all that that's the one where

01:00:40.880 i slept i slept through the first part

01:00:42.860 yeah well i was thinking about this

01:00:46.780 because it was supposed to be the

01:00:47.740 kaczynski episode but nick got plastered

01:00:49.840 with a copy of uh industrial society and

01:00:52.340 didn't wake up until two in the afternoon

01:00:55.240 yes so uh what did you do on friday night

01:01:00.840 i got drunk and read kaczynski

01:01:02.600 yeah pretty much

01:01:05.060 woke up with a bottle of jack right next

01:01:08.440 to him

01:01:08.820 highlighter all over his knee

01:01:11.560 and for some reason i've got 10 pounds of

01:01:13.680 uh fertilizer in my garage yeah i noticed i

01:01:16.240 had all these packages i had set up to be

01:01:18.380 mailed and i didn't know what was in them

01:01:20.180 yeah yeah i'd stop using and i i all of

01:01:24.340 my toothpaste was gone and like i had a

01:01:26.160 copy of evalus revolt against the modern

01:01:27.760 world like i guess we should go on the

01:01:29.420 rad trad route you know

01:01:30.720 okay um so yeah and the media right so

01:01:36.880 the media so a really good example is

01:01:38.860 you know um what one of the things that

01:01:43.360 when the media will uh purposefully

01:01:46.280 disseminate a story which they know is

01:01:48.540 untrue partially or or wholly what

01:01:52.020 happens is that um if it gets to the

01:01:54.560 point where it's so ridiculous that even

01:01:56.280 the average man doesn't believe it it 0.95

01:01:58.000 doesn't matter because it shatters the

01:02:00.500 cohesiveness of investigation into the

01:02:03.160 truth right and so if everybody knows

01:02:05.700 that the media is bs and that leaves all

01:02:08.460 of these individual entities these kind 0.99

01:02:10.340 of you know internet shit posters and 0.99

01:02:11.760 speculators you know to the task of 0.99

01:02:14.580 investigating what is the reality of the

01:02:16.380 situation and so that it doesn't even

01:02:18.680 matter if these people come across the

01:02:20.720 truth or they have a narrative which is

01:02:22.120 like say 10 20 30 40 percent more

01:02:24.360 accurate than the media's narrative

01:02:25.740 because there is this um like a quality

01:02:30.280 of ideas the media's narrative it doesn't

01:02:34.000 matter if it's untrue it just matters

01:02:35.640 that it's the loudest right because and

01:02:38.560 that it's coming from presumed figures of

01:02:41.380 authority which is a quality of man that

01:02:44.140 you can't ever really shake no matter how

01:02:46.740 much he's disabused of the idea that his

01:02:49.780 rulers are honest and virtuous right

01:02:54.440 exactly and so um you know what happens

01:02:57.660 is is that it you go from you can you say

01:03:01.580 could go from gods to titans right the

01:03:03.940 the transcendent ideals no longer matter

01:03:05.960 and it's just that titanic force which is

01:03:08.340 important the the ability to project power

01:03:10.540 through mechanism and quantity are what

01:03:13.340 define um you know modern and postmodern

01:03:15.900 politics really and so that's what it

01:03:20.420 comes back to is that the that's why at

01:03:22.020 the foundation of like the sort of the

01:03:23.700 counter-revolutionary struggle if you want

01:03:25.520 to put it that way is to kind of baptize

01:03:29.460 that machine which is what we're trying to

01:03:31.340 do here to try and and please go ahead

01:03:34.020 yeah well and post-modernism effectively

01:03:36.780 works as a false counter-revolution and i

01:03:40.660 think that in much of the way it's been

01:03:42.600 i mean i don't i don't uh come up with a

01:03:46.600 conspiracy that foucault was somehow you

01:03:48.900 know working hand in hand behind the

01:03:50.360 scenes with czar or something like that

01:03:51.920 but it's certainly been allowed to develop

01:03:54.500 and then co-opted to present you with a

01:03:57.500 series of false counter-revolutions like

01:04:00.500 the entire idea of black lives matter to 1.00

01:04:03.500 me is a false counter-revolution it's

01:04:06.400 this it's this notion of taking industrial

01:04:11.800 society applying it to everything now

01:04:14.480 everything has been industrialized there's

01:04:16.440 no post-industrial society i mean i can't

01:04:19.060 think of anything that hasn't been

01:04:20.220 industrialized it used to be the industry

01:04:22.740 was very distinct from the rest of the

01:04:25.660 economy and distinct from the rest of

01:04:28.200 society but now everything is its own

01:04:30.700 industry and everything is going through

01:04:32.800 an industrialization process and

01:04:35.300 post-modernism effectively serves to

01:04:38.200 detach you from caring about the fact that

01:04:42.700 things are becoming industrialized there's

01:04:44.660 there's no fight left in people people

01:04:47.140 you know even i i think that even if we

01:04:49.720 hit great depression levels or or post

01:04:52.160 weimar levels of economic fallout people

01:04:56.440 still wouldn't care or rise up because

01:04:58.740 they've been so totally and thoroughly

01:05:01.980 stripped of their being and this is i mean

01:05:05.600 brought up kaczynski this is effectively

01:05:07.660 what kaczynski predicted what happened is

01:05:09.720 that post what post-modernism has become

01:05:12.080 would render people inert and they just

01:05:16.320 wouldn't be able to find any ideal to

01:05:20.800 strive for and try and contain

01:05:23.560 industrialism yeah it's about kill it's

01:05:26.980 about um killing the soul and that's what

01:05:30.040 um that's what uh hg wells and bertrand

01:05:34.440 russell in their like really airy globalist

01:05:38.380 books talk about is the the goal of the

01:05:41.280 technocratic state is to destroy man's

01:05:44.500 free will through atomization and the

01:05:46.780 effective use of uh of mechanism and um it's

01:05:50.000 basically like brave new world i mean

01:05:51.580 actually wrote that as the model of the

01:05:53.300 society he wanted to see

01:05:54.540 um and so it's it's funny you bring up

01:05:58.760 brave new world because that comes back

01:06:00.980 to something when we're talking about the

01:06:02.500 esoteric and the exoteric earlier

01:06:04.820 that i wanted to bring up which is sort of

01:06:07.880 the elite gnosis the the elite esoterica

01:06:11.340 what these people actually believe because

01:06:13.900 in that book for instance the world

01:06:16.900 controller mustafa mand he has in his

01:06:19.880 library all kinds of books on uh the

01:06:22.580 occult and and metaphysics and it's

01:06:25.000 strongly implied that well he administers

01:06:28.880 this scientific technocratic system for

01:06:32.100 the masses that he actually operates on a

01:06:36.060 different worldview altogether yeah that's

01:06:39.160 exactly how it is i mean and he mean he

01:06:41.600 admits that he basically said well he his

01:06:43.420 whole backstory he started out as a

01:06:44.800 scientist and then when he started to

01:06:47.520 produce um scientific innovations that

01:06:50.080 weren't in accord with the political

01:06:52.440 whims of the world controllers they

01:06:54.160 basically said hey well cool it boy and

01:06:56.740 they initiated him into the you know this

01:06:59.320 kind of esoteric worldview and we've

01:07:01.360 covered this um on the show many times

01:07:03.220 before this is exactly how the elite

01:07:04.880 function is they view themselves basically

01:07:07.440 as you know as the only people who are

01:07:11.100 entitled to to rationality to free will to

01:07:14.220 dominance and that the rest of the world

01:07:16.100 exists as clay as lead to be turned into

01:07:19.740 gold by their um you know esoteric alchemic

01:07:22.340 process and that's just right transmitting

01:07:24.780 uh which is you know basically well what is

01:07:27.320 what is alchemy george soros is a finance

01:07:29.180 right it's the application of liquid power

01:07:32.440 and so finance uh exists as the background to

01:07:36.320 you know the the build-up of the renaissance

01:07:38.300 state i mean that's you know of modern

01:07:40.800 warfare would not have been possible without

01:07:44.140 the ability to hire you know these faceless

01:07:46.680 mercenary armies uh which came out of the

01:07:48.920 great conflagration of the hundred years

01:07:50.600 war which we see build into um you know

01:07:53.960 colonialism and international imperialism

01:07:56.080 which funded the start of the industrial

01:07:58.040 revolution right and so all of these these

01:08:01.180 concepts are very tightly interwoven and

01:08:03.160 it comes back to like what i would say is

01:08:05.180 just this kind of i mean in the modern

01:08:07.560 times it's like kabbalistic uh is the is

01:08:10.640 the the fundamental like worldview but i

01:08:12.520 think it's as ancient as the world itself

01:08:14.980 that's where the original sin comes from

01:08:16.880 it's the the triumph of of mechanism of

01:08:21.340 the unnatural exertion of power over the

01:08:24.960 natural order so that man's own ego is

01:08:27.720 deified rather than man being deified by

01:08:30.240 interaction with the divine personality and

01:08:32.200 the natural law itself

01:08:33.240 very well said yeah okay so um you boys

01:08:39.480 have any really like snappy or clever

01:08:41.440 comments you want to make before we go

01:08:42.680 to a little break

01:08:43.340 let's roll the break okay fantastic so to

01:08:49.160 our listeners thank you for joining us

01:08:50.680 for our first hour

01:08:51.420 stay tuned where we're going to get into

01:08:53.520 a bunch more really important

01:08:54.880 pretentious philosophical talk

01:08:56.540 hope to hear from you soon

01:08:58.260 my soul cries out with a joyful shout

01:09:10.200 that the god of my heart is great

01:09:12.900 and my spirits sing of the wondrous

01:09:15.900 things that you bring to the ones who

01:09:18.280 wait

01:09:19.160 you fixed your sight and your servant's 0.50

01:09:22.260 flight and my weakness you did not

01:09:24.580 slurn

01:09:25.460 so from east to west shall my name be

01:09:28.500 blessed

01:09:28.980 for the world be about to turn

01:09:31.820 my heart shall sing

01:09:33.720 and the day you bring

01:09:35.180 let the fires of your justice burn

01:09:37.960 wipe away all tears

01:09:39.940 for the dawn draws near

01:09:41.540 and the world is about to turn

01:09:44.660 though i am small my god my all you

01:09:55.940 worked great things in me and your

01:09:59.240 mercy will last from the depths of the

01:10:01.580 past to the end of the age to be

01:10:04.640 your very name finds a crowd to shame

01:10:08.280 and for those who were for you yearn

01:10:11.100 you will show your might put the

01:10:13.320 song to fight for the world is about to

01:10:16.360 turn

01:10:17.300 my heart shall sing of the day you bring

01:10:20.780 let the fires of your justice burn

01:10:23.580 wipe away all tears for the dawn draws near

01:10:27.080 and the world is about to turn

01:10:29.840 from the halls of power to the fortress tower down to stone would be left on stone

01:10:42.300 let the king beware for your justice tears every tyrant from his throne

01:10:48.360 the hungry poor shall reap no more for the food they can never burn

01:10:54.980 there are tables spread every mouth be fed for the world is about to turn

01:11:00.960 my heart shall sing of the day you bring let the fires of your justice burn

01:11:07.240 wipe away all tears for the dawn draws near and the world is about to turn

01:11:13.820 though the nations rage from age to age we remember who holds us fast

01:11:34.200 God's mercy must deliver us from the conqueror's rushing grass

01:11:40.180 this daily word that our foremears heard is the promise which holds us bound

01:11:46.200 till the spear and rod can be crushed by God who is turning the world around

01:11:52.200 my heart shall sing of the day you bring let the fires of your justice burn

01:11:59.560 wipe away all tears for the dawn draws near and the world is about to turn

01:12:05.600 my heart shall sing of the day you bring let the fires of your justice burn

01:12:12.740 wipe away all tears for the dawn draws near

01:12:17.460 And the world is about to turn

01:12:20.820 Welcome back to Mysterium Fasci's episode 47, Philosophy Part 2.

01:12:32.960 Thank you very much, listeners, for rejoining us.

01:12:35.420 I am glad to hear from you again.

01:12:37.760 Although I suppose it's a rather one-sided relationship.

01:12:42.980 Yes.

01:12:43.500 Before the break, we talked about a whole bunch of different important stuff.

01:12:47.560 But I think that we were able to kind of lay the foundation for what philosophy is

01:12:54.020 and why it's important to address it explicitly.

01:12:57.960 So we're going to go into that a little bit more with how bad philosophy

01:13:02.860 and how the downstream effects from bad philosophy have attacked our civilization,

01:13:08.860 have resulted in like this inversion, and how it's important for our own lives and how we get there.

01:13:15.720 So we talked about the need for, we'll talk about it now, need for like a Weltanschauung.

01:13:24.600 Like Hitler talks about this in Mein Kampf, but it's a much greater subject than just that.

01:13:29.480 A Weltanschauung or worldview is like a total integrated worldview,

01:13:33.220 which supplies the, like the philosophical logos for a man, for his family, and for a nation.

01:13:39.380 And so any kind of political change or, you know, political agenda has to be based upon

01:13:45.580 some sort of overarching philosophical worldview.

01:13:49.640 You can't just, you, well, so the thing is, is that in postmodern politics,

01:13:55.720 is that we've become so acclimatized to the only American school of philosophy, which is pragmatism.

01:14:03.240 Where, you know, people just basically pursue what's in their own, you know, egotistical individual self-interest. 0.94

01:14:09.320 And as long as you, you know, you quote unquote, you're nice, you quote unquote, you don't be a dick, 0.97

01:14:14.560 everything kind of flies. 0.75

01:14:15.740 And so without that, an explicit, a structured worldview that you can describe and you can tap into,

01:14:27.740 even if the person himself might not be able to like give a dissertation on what he believes,

01:14:32.980 without those core values, you still operate based on values anyway.

01:14:39.380 It's just that those are given to you by the society around you.

01:14:42.520 Please go ahead.

01:14:42.940 Well, to give an example that I'm, I think maybe has become almost cliche in some of our circles at this point,

01:14:50.120 is the fact that you have American dissidents, white nationals in particular,

01:14:56.900 who, although they're challenging one of the sacred taboos of the current order,

01:15:04.120 they do imbibe pretty much a pragmatic worldview that, I mean, they base their arguments solely off of,

01:15:11.440 of self-interested groups and, I don't know, black crime statistics.

01:15:18.700 Yeah, it's perfect. 0.97

01:15:20.260 It's racist liberalism. 0.93

01:15:22.060 Yeah, well, bingo.

01:15:23.260 The entirety of the, I mean, the, I want to say the philosophical history of the American school of philosophy

01:15:29.940 is effectively Puritanism, slowly melding into transcendentalism,

01:15:37.200 which is very much just hijacked Higalianism,

01:15:40.440 and slowly melding into pragmatism.

01:15:44.040 But by the early 20th century, it had become imbued with what's often now referred to as the Anglo-American school.

01:15:51.940 The Anglo-American school in the 20th century is just analytic philosophy.

01:15:56.180 So you have an entire nation, particularly the white class of the United States, 0.99

01:16:04.400 particularly if they've been, if their families have been here for more than, let's say, four generations,

01:16:08.860 through four generations.

01:16:10.460 Those people are easily susceptible to the transcendental ideology of the self is sovereign,

01:16:18.500 and what I am is sovereign, what I am is supremely important.

01:16:22.060 And it's also about trying to approach everything because American society is so dictated by clearly defined rules now,

01:16:33.960 clearly defined human rules,

01:16:36.140 that everything is about approaching, like you were saying, the black crime statistics

01:16:41.600 with as much of a purely logical constraint as possible.

01:16:47.080 So you get this really weird combination that results in what we would just call kind of racist liberalism,

01:16:53.440 or you can also chalk up to just blood worship, if you want to be kind of demeaning.

01:17:00.280 And it's not surprising that this is what's happened in a country like the United States

01:17:06.500 with no clearly defined integral ideology anymore,

01:17:10.240 although there are regional integral ideologies that have sort of faltered.

01:17:13.520 But in a country like the United States, it's not surprising that this has happened.

01:17:18.400 And it's happened across the entire Christian world, and to various extents,

01:17:23.080 France is another good example of this.

01:17:25.440 But at least in France, it was a uniquely Catholic place that was sort of gutted, 1.00

01:17:30.860 whereas the United States was cobbled together with this weird philosophical approach

01:17:36.480 by this very out-of-touch Anglo class.

01:17:40.560 They've probably been out-of-touch since the 1820s.

01:17:44.960 Yeah, it's funny.

01:17:45.960 I've been reading The Education of Henry Adams, and I'm working on an essay about it.

01:17:52.280 And he was one of the perfect people to look at that progression from,

01:17:59.920 because he really did struggle with it, but he was so born into it

01:18:03.740 that he had very few recourses to escape it.

01:18:08.300 So his intellectual autobiography, I find to be very compelling.

01:18:15.080 Yeah, exactly.

01:18:16.920 And this kind of the question of the racist liberalism comes back to this false dialectical trap,

01:18:24.900 right, where our opponents don't need to explicitly, with coercive force, control our actions.

01:18:32.960 They don't need to use anything so crude as, you know, a gun or a baton in order to coerce us through pain.

01:18:39.700 If they control the presuppositions of our worldview, then it doesn't even matter what conclusions we come to,

01:18:47.080 because they've already, it exists within a approved limited range, right?

01:18:51.880 And so, like, if you're serious about trying to combat our enemies and trying to uplift and revitalize our civilization,

01:19:02.500 you have to have a foundation, like, you know, what is uplifting?

01:19:07.440 What is good?

01:19:08.100 What is the goal, right?

01:19:09.700 Is it just, you know, a material success?

01:19:12.040 Is it just, you know, some sort of Darwinistic struggle against biological extinction?

01:19:16.380 This is nonsense.

01:19:18.000 There's no philosophy here.

01:19:19.420 This is just a policy that's deified, basically, through, you know, ideological fetishism and memes

01:19:26.160 and, you know, powered on the anger of disgruntled young men.

01:19:30.700 And, you know, eminent sympathy.

01:19:32.260 I think most of us come out of this background, and a lot of the listeners to the show probably have been there at one point in their lives.

01:19:39.940 Trying to avoid, you know, being wiped out, a Darwinian struggle is perfectly natural.

01:19:44.960 I take a perfectly sane approach to that, and I say that's a natural drive.

01:19:50.460 But what it comes down to is being devoted to ideologies that we would just kind of say are racist liberalism.

01:19:56.980 And the problem with a lot of these ideologies that they develop, someone was talking about this recently, I'm blinking on who,

01:20:04.060 but they said basically that your ideology doesn't matter, that your ideology just flat out does not matter in the face of a large-scale society, of a overly-scaled society.

01:20:17.960 Now, you can have an ideal to strive for, and you can have an underlying philosophy.

01:20:22.400 But ideology is not going to bring you anywhere, and you need to have a serious strategy rooted in something real,

01:20:33.740 something that actually speaks to the human spirit.

01:20:36.980 And for me, and for you, Florian, and for a lot of people, that is what Christianity is.

01:20:43.680 That's what Christianity represents.

01:20:45.620 Exactly. Exactly.

01:20:46.680 Well, and part of the reason that the dissidence that's happening, that there is, I will concede,

01:20:54.780 there is more people starting to pay attention to what's going on in recent years than previously.

01:21:02.480 However, the reason, one of the main reasons that they're not willing to challenge the fundamental philosophical paradigm of the ruling elite

01:21:11.640 is that they adopt this democratic attitude where they have to meet the masses where they are,

01:21:18.320 and the masses are fully inculcated in this, and so it doesn't force them to re-examine those premises

01:21:25.640 because they're content to just go to people where they are, and where people are is, sadly, very morally corrupt.

01:21:34.240 Yeah, I would say the worst they have ever been in the history of the world is because it's total nihilism.

01:21:40.360 I mean, there's just nothing.

01:21:43.240 You know, and I recently went on a trip to Europe, and I met a whole bunch of nationalist comrades in Austria,

01:21:50.680 and specifically in the Czech Republic.

01:21:52.520 And so in the Czech Republic, only 12% of people in that country have any belief in, like, a transcendent deity,

01:22:00.340 like, whether that's Buddhist, Buddha, or, like, Buddhism, Buddhist nihilism, or, like, the Christian god,

01:22:08.080 but the social capital and, like, the inertia that comes from being from a society that once had, like, this integrated worldview,

01:22:16.840 like, means that these people, no matter what they think, like, tend just to be better.

01:22:21.480 They just tend to be, like, better, have better personal character, even if they're basically atheistic.

01:22:26.580 Right.

01:22:28.660 And those, particularly the Czech Republic, or Bohemia, as it was probably known for most of its more recent history,

01:22:36.800 and Slovakia in particular, I mean, part of my background is Slovakian.

01:22:41.780 Those people were, like the French, just completely built from scratch by the church. 1.00

01:22:47.780 Their entire ideology of who they were, their entire integralism was the Catholic Church,

01:22:54.160 and they were a people sort of saved from themselves and certainly saved from, in a lot of ways, irrelevance.

01:23:02.920 There's no reason why the Czechs and Slovaks would be as well-known as they are worldwide

01:23:08.340 and have accomplished as much if they weren't given that light.

01:23:12.520 And they're sort of living in the shadow of themselves at this point,

01:23:15.620 and it hasn't been that long since the Czech Republic and the Slovaks were a 90% or 90-plus percent Christian people.

01:23:24.160 Catholic people.

01:23:26.380 So that inertia is still there.

01:23:28.760 But in three or four generations, if there isn't any kind of resurgence,

01:23:31.920 I don't know what the Czechs will actually believe themselves to be, 0.99

01:23:35.860 other than just some place in Central Europe that wants a better immigration policy.

01:23:40.920 When you define yourself that way, when you define yourself as just,

01:23:47.840 well, this is just my nationality and I want the country to behave optimally,

01:23:52.600 then you've completely handed yourself over to a system that will completely dismantle you.

01:23:57.780 And to contrast that with America, I mean, America was founded on a revolutionary liberal ideology.

01:24:05.640 Right.

01:24:05.840 And you don't have, especially out west, western United States,

01:24:10.440 you don't really have these physical reminders of your place in history and tradition.

01:24:18.300 You know, it was frontiers and now you have big box stores.

01:24:21.180 And, you know, somewhere like, I've never, I would like to go to Prague someday,

01:24:25.580 but you don't have that living, although maybe they're starting to become hollowed out

01:24:32.740 and mean less in the current year, you still have those reminders of beauty, of something greater.

01:24:40.560 Yeah, I mean, you get that a lot when you're in New England or when you're in the Antebellum South or where I am.

01:24:48.340 There is that greater sense of a real history, a real pathos to those peoples into those places 0.79

01:24:59.160 and to what they integrate as.

01:25:01.720 But a lot of it doesn't mesh well with the modern world and it doesn't survive well.

01:25:08.320 There's no inertia left for a lot of these places.

01:25:11.480 And you see it more because you appreciate it.

01:25:13.820 I mean, it's something you have to learn to look for.

01:25:16.180 Yeah, you do.

01:25:16.900 You can find it in America still, but it's rare.

01:25:21.040 Especially when you go to New England.

01:25:22.660 You can find it.

01:25:24.100 You can find old America there.

01:25:27.240 You can find old Yankee America there.

01:25:29.780 And you can slowly judge it up and understand it if you want.

01:25:33.660 But I got to tell you, most of the people there barely even understand that it's there.

01:25:39.480 And the ones that do, half of them want it wiped down immediately.

01:25:43.820 Yeah.

01:25:44.720 And that's basically it.

01:25:46.300 It's that the American revolutionary experiment has produced a continental civilization which is like, it's necromantic.

01:25:58.040 Right.

01:25:58.280 It's animated.

01:25:59.560 Right.

01:25:59.880 It's this body, this corpse, which is animated on like the unnatural power of like liquid currency and technology.

01:26:09.540 And, you know, undergirding all of it is the implicit force of the police state and of the military, which keeps everything in line.

01:26:17.460 And we've just developed to the point where we can sustain a culture of decadence, which is so unparalleled that we've been able to like shamble along with, you know, as the engineers inside of the golem hurry about to try to fix these various disintegrating patches of flesh that have been sewn together by the rabbi as the monster groans in pain as it slowly disintegrates into goo. 0.97

01:26:42.740 And a lot of the early revolutionaries believed fully in what you were saying and had a lot of, particularly the southern ones, had a huge amount of suspicion towards the revolution.

01:26:56.900 And that I think all the revolutionaries, with the exception of, you know, what we would probably consider communists today, like pain, believed that it should be restricted to only certain groups of people, namely themselves, for ourselves and our posterity.

01:27:12.740 That referred to themselves and their offspring.

01:27:15.660 That would refer to any immigrant.

01:27:18.060 And it was certainly, I don't think, ever intended, although, you know, there are some quotes from like Ben Franklin talking about one day having a whole continent full of Anglos.

01:27:28.720 But it was never intended to sweep across North America and sweep across the planet the way it has.

01:27:36.460 And you can see a lot of the philosophical structural underpinnings collapsing under their own weight because it was never intended to handle this kind of worldview.

01:27:51.680 That's exactly the problem that Henry Adams is dealing with.

01:27:55.100 Yeah.

01:27:55.980 Exactly.

01:27:56.540 If anything, it was a revolution to preserve localist autonomy.

01:28:01.720 It was never a revolution and it was never set up as a means of then building its own empire.

01:28:08.480 I mean, America is like Rome in many ways.

01:28:10.600 And one of the ways it's like Rome is that it essentially conquered half the world in defense of itself.

01:28:15.420 And then it completely obliterated its underlying yelming class to, as sort of a fission process, to grow the economy faster, to keep up with the entire financial structure that it had devised to protect itself. 0.91

01:28:33.940 Exactly.

01:28:34.460 And now the entire country is sort of falling apart at the seams and you have a genuine American Christianity in a lot of forms. 0.75

01:28:43.400 I'm not counting Mormonism, but you have genuine American Christianities, including American Catholicism, that are being caught in an ideological crossfire between the far, you know, there are elements of the far right or just kind of racist liberal types who blame the church for all sorts of grievances.

01:29:03.660 And you have those on the left who want to dismantle the church and dismantle society under the church because they see it as the only thing holding back the world from succumbing to, I don't know, a giant shopping mall with comic sands written everywhere.

01:29:20.100 Well, what you're saying, Hans, reminds me of my favorite quote on America.

01:29:25.600 And I'll read it here.

01:29:27.020 It's Carlisle.

01:29:27.620 So, America's battle is yet to fight, and we, sorrowful though nothing doubting, will wish her strength for it.

01:29:35.580 New spiritual pythons, plenty of them, enormous megatherions, as ugly as were ever born of mud, loom huge and hideous out of the twilight future on America. 1.00

01:29:47.520 And she will have her own agony and her own victory, but on other terms than she is quite yet aware of.

01:29:53.720 Yeah.

01:29:55.040 Yeah.

01:29:57.020 Yeah.

01:29:57.760 And so what, well, so we've come to, I think that, I think most of everybody who's listening to this podcast sort of has come to the conclusion, the same conclusion that we have that America is this necromantic monster that is rapidly degenerating into nothing.

01:30:14.400 Because it's, it's, it's like got this, I don't know, I don't know, ouroboric, ouroboric self-devouring tendency, where it just completely guts itself in order to maintain a little bit of short-term power.

01:30:28.360 And, you know, it's really funny when, like, I hear boomers who, even boomers who are like really woke, who think that this system is going to like go on forever, because, I've heard this, I've seriously heard like boomers who totally understand Zog, they totally understand all of this. 0.64

01:30:43.720 But because, like, in their life, they've been treated to like the full bread and circus, you know, American empire, and that has been so effective at pacifying their generation, like they think that the American empire will never collapse because it's so effective at providing the SOMA to numb the revolutionary activity of the masses, right? 0.84

01:31:02.920 Right. Well, the boomers were really glad that history had ended in the 90s. And I guess the only thing that we really have is guys in their 20s and 30s living now is, I mean, at least we can look forward to history returning, because things are about to get really terrible.

01:31:20.280 Well, this brings me to a question that Hans and I, I think, are of two different minds on. We do debate this from time to time.

01:31:32.920 I mean, that's that you see, in the context of these American dissidents, a desire to sort of reclaim Americanism, to reclaim, to stamp their brand of racial politics on the American ideology and to reclaim it. What are your thoughts on that, Florian?

01:31:55.500 I did a whole in-depth episode on American nationalism, and it's basically...

01:32:01.100 Oh, I have to listen to that.

01:32:02.180 Yeah, it's basically national Bolshevism, where you believe the false myths that are created by the regime, and then try to pervert them to service your own political ends. 0.71

01:32:11.940 And so, like, that really is, like, to try and, like, rehabilitate Abraham Lincoln as this, like, you know, great, you know, Yankee, white supremacist, racialist, you know, figure, is the same as trying to, like, make Joseph Stalin into an anti-Semite who enacted laws that put anti-Semites to death in the Soviet Union.

01:32:33.840 And so, like...

01:32:35.840 That's a great analogy, actually.

01:32:37.520 Yeah.

01:32:38.060 And that's...

01:32:38.860 That is what it is.

01:32:40.480 And so I think that it's just, like...

01:32:42.900 I mean, okay, if they're right, I mean, it's gonna... 1.00

01:32:45.060 Best of luck to them, but it's stupid. 1.00

01:32:47.280 It's not gonna work. 1.00

01:32:48.100 It's just... 0.99

01:32:48.500 It's really, really dumb, I think. 0.99

01:32:50.280 And it's essentially... 0.99

01:32:51.940 I think Hunter Wallace called it, like, neoboomerism.

01:32:54.880 That is what it is, right?

01:32:57.260 There is a genuine...

01:32:59.040 There is a genuine American people, and they are spread out across the entire North American continent at this point.

01:33:07.600 I mean, the only thing that really defines what a nation is are its people.

01:33:11.340 And those people do exist.

01:33:12.780 I mean, and they're pretty disparate.

01:33:14.500 They're Finns up in Minnesota, and they're Southerners like Hunter Wallace down in the Antebellum South. 0.76

01:33:20.380 But they're not working together cohesively, and the system isn't really designed for them to work together cohesively.

01:33:29.000 So I don't know if Americanism can really be salvaged without really examining what do we want Americanism to actually be.

01:33:37.940 Because everyone is sort of working within the lens of the figures that have already come and gone.

01:33:43.500 And they're working within the parameters that have been set.

01:33:47.300 And one of the things they'll always see a lot of these types do is they'll take the sort of poisoned aphorisms about America that black nationalists have. 0.88

01:34:02.700 And they'll say, well, that's actually the truth. 0.98

01:34:04.060 And that's a good thing, because why don't you step back and actually examine if, A, that's the truth, just because it's some annoying black guy telling it to you. 0.99

01:34:12.280 And, B, do you really even want that to be the truth? 0.95

01:34:16.500 And do you want to try and define something new?

01:34:18.800 Because there's a whole swath of people on this continent that are about to get swept away and potentially hurt and seriously killed.

01:34:27.100 And if you're just going to come up with little ideologies constantly to try and reclaim what it used to be, you're not going to solve anything and you're going to be swept away along with them.

01:34:39.000 That's it exactly.

01:34:39.720 And so I don't think, I mean, if we compare America to Rome, it would be impossible for America to continue to exist unless its worldies logos changed, converted, basically.

01:34:52.360 It would have to have such a radical, like metanoia, a turning away from its foundational principles and become something that it was, that is totally against what it was in the beginning in order for it to survive in any way.

01:35:05.080 And I just, I think that's like a nonsense idea.

01:35:07.220 I just don't think that that's going to happen, you know, because I just don't, I don't like, it's certainly not within like 20, 30 years.

01:35:14.380 That's like a 200, 300 year project.

01:35:16.440 Um, so I think that this kind of segues really nicely into like touching on the basic areas of philosophy and it's like when we talk about like a lot of these American white nationalists or Americanists, um, they have this kind of like pragmatic, you know, biological worldview where, you know, what's politically correct or what's politically desirable is determined, you know, based on, you know, this, the most basic form of like,

01:35:46.680 biological in-group, uh, competition, right?

01:35:49.540 And of course this is like, I mean, this is obviously not a podcast that's against racial nationalism or anything.

01:35:56.300 Um, but again, you know, you can't, what, what they're trying to do is they're trying to equate like pragmatism to morality.

01:36:04.360 Uh, and those are not, those are not, uh, those are not synonymous concepts.

01:36:09.480 You know, you, to, to make like a moral claim that preserving your own race is good.

01:36:14.480 Well, what, what is good, right?

01:36:17.400 I mean, if you're, if you're an atheist, like you can't make that claim or the good just becomes synonymous with, uh, like material prosperity, which is just racist liberalism.

01:36:27.780 Yes.

01:36:28.220 And so when we come back to these three basic areas of philosophy, ethics, what we ought to do, metaphysics, how things work and epistemology, how we ought to know or what we know, um, these things are the preconditions, the presuppositions, which enable us to say things like, yes, it's desirable that we fight for our, the preservation, the racial integrity of the remnants of whatever folk remains on the North American continent.

01:36:52.300 How, you know, how, you know, broadly defined, uh, as, you know, white in opposition to the other races, which itself is a degeneration from the full flowering of a integrated ethnic idea, but it's all we got left. 0.64

01:37:05.160 So we've got to work with it.

01:37:07.380 And so, um, you know, so this is the thing, please go ahead.

01:37:11.660 One, one thing you do see.

01:37:13.180 So, I mean, this is where we, that's where the good knowledge of the good is where we can have an understanding of justice.

01:37:19.760 And the prevailing conception of justice in American society is, is basically Rawlsian.

01:37:27.300 It's, it's a concept of fairness based on certain egalitarian assumptions that disparities between people are only the result of, uh, some kind of unfairness that everyone would given in a totally equal playing field would arrive at the same place.

01:37:46.640 And typically when these white nationalists are talking about, uh, justice, they're going in with that exact same plea that it's, the system is unfair to them.

01:37:59.560 Right, exactly.

01:38:01.080 And so this is the thing they're making, they're making an appeal to this, this implied transcendental form of fairness or justice or goodness, but they don't, most of them don't believe in that.

01:38:12.120 They don't have a philosophy which permits the existence of such a form, um, you know, and it's not, these are not things that are self-revealing because the, the idea of what is just, of what ought to be done is demonstrably radically different in different societies and civilizations over the course of history.

01:38:30.460 And the society that we have now, even if examined by someone who lived a hundred years ago, is the worst hellish inverted nightmare that they could possibly imagine.

01:38:40.580 Uh, it's a total opposite of like all of their values.

01:38:44.080 Um, and so, and so what this, what this proves, what this demonstrates is that the, those values that, you know, our ancestors had a hundred years ago, um, were basically the lingering remnants of what came before the establishment of this, you know, revolutionary liberal state paradigm.

01:39:02.080 And that the end terminal of that paradigm is just nihilism.

01:39:07.240 It's just pragmatism.

01:39:08.760 Uh, it's, it's just, it's just, just disgusting as filth, basically is the only way I can describe it as means nothing.

01:39:17.140 Right.

01:39:17.840 And so, you know, there are different solutions to this problem as we've talked before on the show.

01:39:22.860 I mean, you know, there are, of course, like, um, pagan philosophical worldviews that can provide you with answers to, to ethics and metaphysics and epistemology.

01:39:32.020 Um, but the ones that our civilization is built upon indisputably are the Christian, um, the Christian philosophical concepts, which derive from its theology.

01:39:41.880 And the, the theology is not, um, an analog.

01:39:46.520 It's not analogous to philosophy.

01:39:48.220 We don't, I don't know if we really want to get into that, but, you know, so for us,

01:39:52.320 I guess we can very simply for, for the Christian, right? 0.87

01:39:55.340 His philosophy starts with the person of Jesus Christ, because the person of Jesus Christ is the logos.

01:40:01.680 All philosophy proceeds from the personal reality of Jesus, the second person of the Holy Trinity.

01:40:07.860 And so when he says, I am the truth, the way in the life, like he's making an epistemological statement.

01:40:13.880 He's saying that he personally is the foundation for all knowledge and for all truth.

01:40:18.300 This would lead, um, Nicholas Cabasillas, a famous, um, uh, Eastern Roman Byzantine theologian in the 14th century from Thessaloniki to, you know, when he defines like, well, what happens at baptism?

01:40:31.280 Well, you get, you gain ontological reality.

01:40:33.600 You begin to exist because before baptism, you're bound for death.

01:40:38.880 Uh, and if everything is constantly dying, if everything is in a state of flux and there's no certainty of the world beyond that reality, then there is a nihilism.

01:40:47.880 There is an equalitarian or an egalitarian, uh, element introduced by the universal reign of death over all creation of the, the passability of the physical world.

01:40:58.300 And so in order for you to surmount this, in order for you to have a worldview that is transcendent, that exists above the passability of the physical world, above the, the ravages and the snares of death, you know, you actually have to like have an eye, you have to have a foundation for that.

01:41:13.480 So you can't just, you know, so like a strong, um, let's like, like, let's take it kind of back to like a normie, right?

01:41:21.100 Kind of a normie, you know, whatever, like atheist, liberal, they live their lives as if their lives have meaning as if like the act, when they get up in the morning and they go to work, when they eat, when they do anything, implicitly, they, they do things with the expectation that there's a causal relationship between action and effect.

01:41:42.140 That what they do has a purpose. It has a telos and end. Um, and whether or not that's, you know, implicitly their own self-satisfaction, it doesn't really matter. They operate this way. Everybody operates this way. Cause you can't, you can't live your life thinking everything you do, you know, is vapid. Um, cause you just kill yourself, right?

01:42:01.680 Yeah. I was going to say, they would opt out.

01:42:05.800 Their telos is effectively working in some capacity to fulfill social trends or social processes that involve them being, being materialistic and acquiring material to fulfill those social processes. And a lot of that's what we would kind of call virtue signaling.

01:42:23.100 They don't, you know, there are, there are none of them that wake up and tell themselves I'm going to work today for God and country. That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to work so that I can at least help preserve this a little longer.

01:42:35.940 So people aren't dying in the street just yet. And because it's labor is the, is the gift of God. And if you have the ability to work, you should work. None of them are telling themselves that. So they are looking for something.

01:42:50.860 And often that kind of devolves into, well, I really like seeing Marvel movies. And I also really like that Marvel movies are inclusive and diverse. So I'm going to work hard so I can purchase Marvel products so that diversity can continue to be programmed into people.

01:43:08.500 That's really, I mean, at the core of their everyday life, there are millions of people living with that. If you, if you want to call that a, uh, an, an ethos, that is, I mean, as sad as it is, that's what it is.

01:43:22.640 They're essentially what a degenerate junkie homosexual postmodern writer, William S. Burroughs called a soft machine. 1.00

01:43:31.740 Yeah. 1.00

01:43:32.260 And they're, it's basically just eat, beep, beep, boop, sleep, beep, beep, boop, fuck, beep, beep, boop. 1.00

01:43:42.460 Yeah. 0.99

01:43:43.040 And what they have is they have to stave off that inevitable self-reflection that comes in the, in the twilight hours, you know, and you can stave that off through, through drugs and entertainment.

01:43:54.940 If you're constantly entertained at no point, do you finally have to, you know, sit out on your back porch with a glass of wine or a cigar and really actually engage in introspection about who and what you are and why you're here.

01:44:10.100 Exactly.

01:44:10.620 And that is, that is rooted in tens of thousands of years of, of homo sapien history with men sitting at night trying and looking on the stars, trying to figure out what their place is and why they should, why exactly they should be getting up the next day and fighting for survival or working or trying to build something.

01:44:31.880 Exactly.

01:44:34.280 What justifies the struggle, right?

01:44:36.700 Right.

01:44:37.220 That's the question.

01:44:38.500 Why do we struggle?

01:44:39.620 Because of, if all life is suffering, if all life is combating this, this death, if we have to struggle to live, even like our, our body, it's constantly regenerating itself every moment of every hour of every second that we live against these micro bacteria that are disintegrating it.

01:44:56.980 Right.

01:44:57.180 And when we die, that's what happens is those bacteria, they win and they destroy the body and they consume it totally.

01:45:04.740 And so, you know, it's written into the very basis, basic biological programming that we have to struggle physically, but also spiritually, right? 0.99

01:45:13.700 And so we have to have a logos, a purpose, a reason for why we, we eat these bowls of shit every day constantly.

01:45:20.620 And that, that logos is ever more important in the modern era where, uh, it just, there's no spiritual reality to anything where we have these, you know, unlimited physical comforts, even for people in the low strata of our society, but no spiritual food, no spiritual nutrition.

01:45:38.120 And so, you know, it comes back to this, that you can't, you know, if you're disgruntled, if you don't like this, becoming a more radical materialist is not the solution.

01:45:48.500 What the solution is, is to come up with something of spiritual substance that, that motivates you beyond the adversity of the physical world.

01:45:57.160 Right.

01:45:57.620 And so if you, if you, if you were one of these, like, you know, IQ, you know, white nationalists, well, what happens if like China completely overtakes us in every way? 0.99

01:46:05.700 What happens if all of your memes about, you know, gook, insect, you know, mind, uh, subhuman, uh, oriental, you know, sideways vagina to be vulgar. 1.00

01:46:15.960 What happens like if all of those memes are proven false by an emerging, you know, Chinese technocratic dragon state, which becomes the new world order controlling power and it begins to dominate you. 0.95

01:46:26.660 What happens then?

01:46:28.420 Right.

01:46:29.240 Right.

01:46:29.940 You know, it's so, you, you know, uh, everybody would say, oh.

01:46:33.800 And that, and that would be a real return to history is, is a group of people somewhere being completely conquered by an arising power out of another place like that.

01:46:44.300 And that's mostly the history of Europeans is having to always contend with the occasional rise of a power out of the East that nearly either destroys them and subjugates them.

01:46:57.640 Um, and it's a several hundred year long struggle typically in the case of the Muscovites fighting against the golden horde, or in the case of the Asturian Knights fighting for 700 years to kick the warriors out of Spain.

01:47:11.140 Or in the case of Charlemagne struggling with every last man he had to try and kick the Avars out of what we would call Hungary now. 0.98

01:47:19.700 It was, you know, there are these constant problems that Europeans have had to deal with no matter where they are.

01:47:25.500 And trying to reorient yourself around, you know, around means and also just around racist liberalism is not going to cut it.

01:47:36.460 If you want to rebuild society to be as strong as it once was for Europeans, there's a huge component that you really do need and you can't have, you can't live without. 1.00

01:47:47.620 And that is, uh, Logos, that is a unifying force that we all slowly come to believe in.

01:47:56.360 Right. I think that what you're describing, Hans, on the civilizational level of the existential threat is similar to in those twilight hours of reflection that people should have but are able to escape.

01:48:10.780 I think the thought that, that comes that puts us into perspective is, is death and it's, it's death that regardless of, regardless of afterlife or what have you, contemplation of death forces you to seriously examine your actions in the day to day.

01:48:28.480 And it seriously forces you to examine what it is that makes the justice of life so important and what you should actually ground it on.

01:48:36.760 Because if you are, if you remind yourself, you know, this too shall pass, your existence shall pass this, and you only have one, then you really start to actually consider what it is that your existence should have been about.

01:48:52.020 If you are an essentialist, if you believe that you have an essence, then you know that you cannot just ground your, your whole being in this existence because that being should exist before it and after it.

01:49:05.180 Exactly. You know, and so it's, unfortunately, a lot, a lot of these like modern bug people, we do not want to acknowledge that they're going to die. 0.86

01:49:19.080 A lot, I was about to, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, you know, I think maybe, maybe call it like the philosophical term cardinality of death or something like that is, it has no bearing on them, has, has no bearing on them whatsoever.

01:49:35.460 These are people that fully believe that they are never going to die.

01:49:39.720 I, I, I, I'm surprised you're saying this.

01:49:41.160 This is something I've said, I, I, you share my suspicion.

01:49:44.240 I've long suspected that the majority of people, at least in America, do not believe that they will die.

01:49:50.420 Yeah.

01:49:52.200 Yeah.

01:49:53.100 I think that that's.

01:49:53.900 I mean, it sounds irrational, but, but if you think about it, they, they certainly don't live like they're going to die.

01:49:59.460 And part of the problem with modernity is hiding the effects of death on who you are as a person and who you're, and what it does to your community.

01:50:06.900 And shielding you from, oh, sorry, Hans.

01:50:11.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you're right.

01:50:12.880 Shielding you from, from contemplation of it.

01:50:16.020 Being up at night with stars over you, contemplating when's my end coming and what is my end going to be?

01:50:22.140 And at the end, well, in those last moments, well, I think at least I had a grounded justice in what was, in what was right and what was beyond the material and what was beyond IQ stats.

01:50:34.500 Or is it going to only be, yeah, I should have posted one last meme.

01:50:41.620 Yeah.

01:50:42.560 I think David Foster Wallace, for all his faults, correctly identified that aspect of American society relationship between entertainment and death.

01:50:53.100 Yeah.

01:50:53.240 Yeah, and I think that that, what, I think it comes back to the fact that a lot of the, we come all the way back to the beginning of the show, that a lot of the, so quote unquote alt-right, as I despise this term, but whatever, we'll use it.

01:51:10.840 We don't use it on our show, either. 0.67

01:51:12.540 It's just so gay. 1.00

01:51:13.600 It is, man. 0.98

01:51:18.020 Yeah.

01:51:20.280 Yeah.

01:51:22.980 So, is motivated by, it's their reactionary.

01:51:26.800 They're motivated by anger and by disgruntlement against, like, the vapidity of the modern world, but they're not introspective enough to realize, like, well, why is this the case?

01:51:36.880 How did we get here?

01:51:38.140 What happens is that when your movement is one of opposition, like, if you are who you are because, like, you don't like the Jews and, you know, you want white people to exist and, like, you believe that not all races are biologically equal, well, there's no substance to that.

01:51:58.100 That's a movement of reaction, of passion.

01:52:00.260 It's essentially, it's dead, actually.

01:52:01.480 I mean, again, it's, there's no vivifying element behind it besides the most base monkey mind desire to react and be angry at things that you know on an instinctual level are negative.

01:52:17.580 I mean, it's romanticism.

01:52:19.100 Right.

01:52:19.420 Effectively.

01:52:20.140 Yeah.

01:52:20.320 And so, what happens is when you don't have an explicit and grounded worldview that you can put as a replacement, as a foundation for that anger, well, why do, why am I angry?

01:52:32.660 Why is it bad that my race is being destroyed?

01:52:35.140 Right.

01:52:35.300 Why is it bad that my society has become inverted from how it was 100 years ago?

01:52:39.720 I mean, because, why is this bad?

01:52:42.740 You tell me.

01:52:43.340 I mean, you can't, you have to make an appeal to justice, to right and wrong, to some sort of transcendental worldview, which is based on philosophy and theology.

01:52:54.440 You don't just get to say, because it's convenient. 0.86

01:52:57.200 That's just, like, the same gay excuse that our elites use. 0.92

01:53:01.260 And so, if that's, you know, the foundation of your worldview, then it's just, you're the same as our elites.

01:53:06.220 You're not going to be able to defeat them because your organizing principle is the same as them.

01:53:10.620 And it also makes you very easy to control.

01:53:15.580 Oh, yes.

01:53:16.240 The grueling divorce for the last, you know, let's say, 570 to 600 years between theology and philosophy has completely diminished what justice actually is and what it used to be in the conception of people's minds.

01:53:35.280 Because the, part of the, you know, I sometimes struggle with people saying that they're neo-medievalists or they're neo-feudalists.

01:53:43.960 But part of me goes, well, actually, things weren't so bad.

01:53:47.700 And if you understand the conception of justice that those people had and that philosophy and theology were not divorced, they were one and the same thing.

01:53:55.660 It was, everything was an approach to God.

01:53:58.380 Everything was trying to understand what God had created for you and what God was trying to reveal to you.

01:54:08.400 Right.

01:54:09.040 If, you know, the fact that we've lost that in order to seek material comfort, in a way, it's a Herculean effort that Europeans took upon themselves to undo their own spiritual structure to seek the greatest material comforts and to try and conquer the stars.

01:54:28.380 But unfortunately, you know, despite this Herculean effort, Hercules himself died a miserable death and he didn't learn throughout his life the lessons of the parables that we learn about him now.

01:54:45.940 And if Europeans don't want to wind up a cautionary tale for the Chinese or for the East Asians, they need to understand that they are writing their own death parable, their own tragedy. 0.77

01:54:59.360 Precisely.

01:55:00.660 I mean, no, go ahead.

01:55:03.420 Well, Evola talked about these, the kind of two different, those two different types of reaction.

01:55:08.500 You have that more simplistic political reaction and then you have the reaction against the foundations.

01:55:17.020 They're not one in the same.

01:55:18.580 And what I was saying is that it makes people easy to control.

01:55:22.040 And I was having a debate with some people.

01:55:23.740 I think one thing that people in that sphere would benefit from understanding, and this comes back to what we were saying earlier about the exoteric and the esoteric with respect to what it is the elites actually believe,

01:55:36.420 is, yeah, sure, some of the lower tier elites are high on their own supply, so to speak, and they actually believe in this brave new world.

01:55:45.620 But people, these populations that are coming into Europe, this is a weaponized process. 1.00

01:55:53.100 And reactions are expected.

01:55:55.060 And the system is in place to take those reactions, misdirect them, and use them in a dialectic to their own ends of total power.

01:56:06.040 Precisely.

01:56:06.740 Precisely.

01:56:07.220 You're chasing the red blanket, not the matador at this point.

01:56:11.500 And it's going, and it's seriously, it's seriously going to diminish, I think, a lot of the conceptions of what people think the elites actually believe.

01:56:22.900 And the shocking reality, to me, as it sort of discovers, the elites don't necessarily believe in anything, which is all the more sort of shocking.

01:56:34.360 I'm sure that there are plenty of deviant sex cults and deviant ball worshippers that are still mad that Rome crushed Carthage over 2,000 years ago. 0.74

01:56:43.720 Well, I'm sure that those people actually exist.

01:56:48.000 But I'm also sure that there are plenty of them who do not believe in anything and are only interested in maintaining their own power structures.

01:56:59.120 You can, it's easy, it can be done to boil down a lot of what people do to just wanting to maintain their power structure.

01:57:06.240 Well, the purpose in those, like, elite mystery cults, the ultimate end is power.

01:57:14.120 It's worship of themselves as the final end.

01:57:18.100 And the sort of ritualistic defilement of what was previously sacred is, I mean, it's, do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.

01:57:27.440 It's the purpose is to free themselves from any form of natural law.

01:57:33.060 Right. And there are those deviant elites and sort of false aristocrats, I would call them, you know, the cultural elites, not necessarily the moneyed elite, that truly hate natural law and want to diminish it and destroy it at whatever means.

01:57:49.840 You know, I don't think that all of the elites and certainly many of the ones who actually exert real financial and capital power care that much about, you know, whether or not natural law should be destroyed out of some ideological or metaphysical commitment to destroying it.

01:58:05.680 But they do empower people to be, you know, those cultured elites to be deviants, those false aristocrats to take out their, their anger on natural law and the practicers of it in order to fulfill their, what I talked about earlier, their own societal fission process, which is to break down the bonds between people to attain growth.

01:58:28.720 And so that's the entirety of the last, particularly the last 50 years in the United States has been a slow, slow fission process to break down the old bonds of America to achieve massive levels of economic growth that were thought to be impossible.

01:58:46.000 And even scaled to previous levels of economic growth throughout history are remarkable in how quickly wealth has been created and acquired.

01:58:55.880 And that was the end design.

01:58:57.300 The end design was really, it's cynical.

01:59:00.480 You know, I wish it was entirely just a giant cult of devil worshipers, because then you could point your finger and say, that's what they believe.

01:59:08.900 And now we can unite against that.

01:59:10.540 You know, it's so much more ambiguous, and it's so much more mystifying what exactly these people want, because they're not acting according to any real diabolical will.

01:59:22.500 They're just acting to attain wealth.

01:59:25.220 I think that you touched on a critical point.

01:59:27.100 And what I would say is that you're entirely correct, although I would make one distinction, is that the very nature of the diabolic is anti-logos.

01:59:37.500 And so we should not expect a causal philosophical worldview from those who hate logos.

01:59:43.020 We should expect chaos and things not to make any sense and for things to be stupid and crazy and to be based mostly on, like, inertia than on, like, any sort of rational framework. 0.97

01:59:55.000 Right? 0.98

01:59:55.360 Right.

01:59:56.280 And so that's precisely what happens, is that, you know, the insane man is not the man who has no logic.

02:00:02.040 It's the man who only has logic with no reason to govern that process.

02:00:05.900 It's like the rogue AI, you know, Terminator Skynet, right, that just runs off into the distance, acting on some sort of pragmatic software.

02:00:16.360 It doesn't have, like, I mean, it's evil, it's wicked, but it's not, like, a lot of the times it's not because it's like, oh, I'm going to worship the AI devil, right?

02:00:25.680 Although I think that that is kind of where it starts, that ideological break starts at that first rebellion, but it becomes, like, calcified, and the inertia continues because people are making a lot of money and getting their passions satisfied, and they want to maintain their positions in power.

02:00:43.420 Right.

02:01:13.420 And if you're able to break people down into a, just a series of stimulated behaviors from external and internal stimuli, and you completely neglect the internal stimuli and say they don't actually matter, or they're irrational, so they don't matter.

02:01:29.220 And then, and then you tell them this, the worst thing is that people are told this, it's not that this is just how they're analyzed, they are told that this is what they are, and that they're being analyzed through this methodology that completely shatters any idea of an internal ontology to what people are.

02:01:47.780 And once you've done that, it's very, very easy to break that logos, and you have, and it seems ordered, a lot of the modern world seems to order to people, and people kind of long for the days of step nomads coming in and burning down your village.

02:02:03.340 But that was part of a natural cycle that civilization had been undergoing for tens of thousands of years.

02:02:09.920 Now the, these weird nomads from south of the border are let in and, and, you know, essentially given help and instructions in how to displace the current occupants of a certain place.

02:02:23.380 There, you know, and there's no longer, uh, what's the Heideggerian word like, or Heideggerian term for dwelling, like a friend or something to that effect.

02:02:35.500 There's no longer any path towards that, to that dwelling, as he would call it.

02:02:41.140 Yeah, that's the difference between the organic and the mechanical, right?

02:02:45.200 Right, right. And the mechanical has slowly become chaotic, and it's because of what it's wrought.

02:02:51.580 And, and I'm not an anti-mechanical person. I am a huge believer in classical mechanics, and, and, uh, to an extent, um, I, I love being a mechanistic guy.

02:03:03.020 I have a garage full of power tools that I, that I love using for various purposes, but in the same vein, it, the damage that they've wrought on society, their existence, hasn't been contended with.

02:03:17.320 And you can find a way to have a spiritual life and have a real ontology about who you are and have power tools, but no one in our elite want you to have even the idea that that is possible, that you can reason your way into determining how you can live with God and how you can have power tools at the same time.

02:03:41.060 That's it, exactly. That's it, exactly. And this is the thing that I think is lost by the false dialectic between, like, the modernists and religious traditionalists, is that there's a lot of failure in even, you know, capital R reactionary circles to account for the existence and the change that technology puts upon social organization.

02:04:01.000 Right. It's the Pandora's. We don't get to decide whether we deal with mass communication or not. So we, you know, we don't get to make that choice. We don't get to decide whether we deal with the machine gun or the nuclear submarine based missile or not. That's a reality that we have to deal with, even if it's titanic force is extremely inconvenient. And so we can't just, you know, go back to like, we were doing your episode on, um, the first chancellor of West Germany, Adenauer, right?

02:04:27.740 Yes. Yeah.

02:04:57.740 Because they were so innovative and so pioneering in their, um, use of these technologies. And so like Tsar Nicholas II, he wanted to like set limits to, you know, the number of machine guns and heavy artillery pieces that European armies could have because he understood this, but it didn't matter. It didn't matter.

02:05:17.820 And that, and that was a callback to days in Europe when weapons innovations were typically met with scorn even by national kings. And sometimes weapons innovators were put to death and their inventions completely erased before an arms race was started.

02:05:33.480 There was an idea that an organic form of warfare is terrible as warfare was between the European kingdoms in the medieval era is terrible.

02:05:43.500 It wasn't happened that it existed. It was organic. And it's natural that this does happen between groups of men.

02:05:49.140 And unfortunately, you know, the Adenauer reactionary tradition is something that I, I was somewhat aware of it before. And there are traditions similar to it that I try and imbue into who I am as a, as an American, as a Catholic, and as a person who works in effectively in industry, in technology.

02:06:08.480 There are things I have to contend with. And the idea that you can't find any contention and that you can't come to a compromise and you can't rebuild society, even with all these things in existence or develop them and it be a just society, I think is false.

02:06:26.800 Yes, you can have industry, but you need to be able to have an acknowledgement of what it's going to do. If you can't acknowledge what it's going to do to you as a person and do your society, then you can't have it.

02:06:40.620 But because the very fact that we're having this conversation is evident to me that by the grace of God, we are able to find a way and we will be able to find a way.

02:06:50.460 But it's going to take, or it's going to involve us having to take back the reins because we're the only ones interested in figuring this out.

02:07:00.280 Well, and it's no coincidence that the early modernist artists that I mentioned earlier were interested in, in the new ideas, the new political ideas of the 20th century and fascism and national socialism even.

02:07:13.640 And it was because they were looking to be able to go forward without abandoning the past, without severing that link to tradition.

02:07:23.400 There could, in fact, be a sense. You see it in futurism, people like Lewis and Pound.

02:07:30.580 And that was a possibility, but like so many possibilities, so many of the slightly sunnier possibilities of the early 20th century, they were destroyed with the European Holocaust. 0.91

02:07:44.960 To me, you know, you can look at Junger as a good example of someone who embraced what had come, but also wanted to have a clear chain of being and a clear chain of life to the past, particularly rooted in Germany, all the way to the present of his time and into the future.

02:08:03.360 A full acknowledgement of the breath of time as a German dealing with the rise of industry, because I think he understood from a biological point of view, from a philosophical point of view, that his people were naturally gifted to rule in industry and rule in the industrial arts.

02:08:22.420 And Americans have always been gifted in that realm, too.

02:08:26.380 And Henry Ford was a great example of a man who contended with these huge works in this huge industrial society that he sought to create.

02:08:36.660 But Henry Ford was never a man who wanted to displace marriage or wanted to displace social cohesion.

02:08:43.760 This is a guy who essentially bulliesided immigrants into learning English and getting rid of their accents. 1.00

02:08:48.400 Everyone was going to conform and everyone was going to pitch into society and be a good citizen and be a good man if they wanted to be a part of his industry.

02:09:00.900 And Junger wrote one of the first science fiction novels, Glass Bees.

02:09:05.000 Yep.

02:09:06.960 Fascinating.

02:09:07.900 Okay, so why don't we pivot towards justice because we're coming up to an hour here.

02:09:12.440 So just I want to make sure that we cover this in depth before we hit the Kali Yuga news.

02:09:19.940 So gentlemen, this was a subject that you had raised to me, Nick, that you wanted to pay particular attention to.

02:09:27.060 And I think that you, like I, because of your research into pedophilia and those kind of organized syndicates, has kind of impelled you towards radicalism.

02:09:40.760 I know that for me, like investigate, I did an episode of Pizzagate and it was that episode that really made me like think, okay, we can't, we cannot stop. 0.94

02:09:49.280 We have to fight until we die because if we don't, this doesn't stop unless we win and kill all our enemies. 0.95

02:09:55.040 Yes. 1.00

02:09:55.600 So.

02:09:56.060 Yes.

02:09:56.240 Why don't you go ahead and just open up with some open states?

02:10:01.260 Yeah, sure.

02:10:01.580 Well, I recently did on my show an episode on elite pedophile networks and their role in how it is the elite exert control on their own.

02:10:12.960 And to a certain extent, I didn't really get into in the episode, but I, one thing that I kind of wonder about from a philosophical and moral perspective is what exactly it says about us, what our responsibility in relation to that depth of evil is.

02:10:32.420 How we should think about it and how we should act in relation to it.

02:10:35.860 Exactly. So, and this is the question is that these pedophilia and these, the depth of this degenerate, these degenerate illnesses, this corruption that has seized our society is something that for anybody who is not totally twisted, totally deformed and deranged by the modern world, you know, evokes still murderous rage.

02:10:57.000 And rightly so, you know, pedophilia is one of the crimes that you can still get even like liberals to support capital punishment for because it's so unnatural from a physical, spiritual level that it just, we instinctively with all of our might cry out against it, right?

02:11:17.360 Yet, at the same time, you have these pedophilic trends. I mean, child transsexualism. I was just reading an article the other day about a child who was taken from their parents or removed from their parents custody because they refused to administer hormone, hormone, hormone treatments. 1.00

02:11:37.360 Right. And it's going in that direction because of this, if this foundational sense of justice can be debased, then there's no wickedness that cannot be tolerated, right?

02:11:47.060 I mean, and this is like the full, you know, Canaanite society where child sacrifice and child abuse are just integrated into the firmament of the culture. All that's left is for a cleansing fire. 0.95

02:11:56.140 Yeah, they've succeeded in sexualizing children. They've succeeded in normalizing homosexuality. And they've succeeded in sort of imbuing children with the discretion and autonomy to make that sort of choice, you know, choice. 0.99

02:12:13.340 They've given children an immense amount of agency, which is what's so disturbing to me. I mentioned this to my significant other the other night. I was like, look, I've never in my life thought that you should listen to this 17-year-old version of me, especially when I was 17.

02:12:31.520 And you have 17-year-old being told point blank, let's interview you on national news to get your cutting opinion on gun policy and how financial institutions in the United States should enact a de-investment strategy towards gun manufacturers.

02:12:52.200 Going to a child with that children who are easily impressionable and turning them into pseudo adults is definitely part of the sexualization agenda because then if you turn children into adults, children are that much more susceptible to becoming just good elements of a neoliberal machine.

02:13:14.760 And that is overly sexualized beings that are easily bullied and pushed around, as E. Michael Jones would say. And if you get them while they're young, if you can get to them and you can imbue them with this when they're younger, they're less likely to put up a fight later or to have any sort of reaction later in life. You're only rebellious in your youth. You're not rebellious when you're older.

02:13:38.940 Right. And I think that's at the core of it. It's the denaturing, the destruction of the soul in infancy is precisely what they're going for. And this is one of the reasons why when we practice infant baptism, well, our enemies want to kill our children's souls when they're infants.

02:13:58.520 You know, and like if you look into trauma-based mind control, the best time to do that in order to create a pliable, compliant individual for your own purposes is in childhood. And that's why there is such an integral component of ritualistic child abuse in trauma-based mind control, admittedly.

02:14:18.520 Yes, I talk about that in my episode.

02:14:21.580 Right. And so, and what is happening is, I think it's MKUltra's rule was really more about mass mind control is this is applied on a mass scale through mass propaganda conditioning. And if you can inflict this trauma on children through soft power, you don't have to physically rape them. If you could spiritually rape them, then there's no distinction.

02:14:39.560 Right. And just use a simple example of the Holocaust propaganda. Some of the earliest, some of the first times that children see corpses are the corpses of Jews. 0.99

02:14:52.580 Yeah, I'm not, I'm not someone that wants to shy children away from the reality of, of death and life. But it's sort of shocking that you parade your children around museums for particular people dying and then tell them, well, you should feel guilty about this, by the way.

02:15:16.720 Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's, it's like, that's all part of this insane mentality. You parade them around your, their exposure to violence and death is in this context. And then in the same breath, you will say that all, you know, all self-defense is wrong. Right. Unless it's done by the state authorities. Right. Right. And so that's, that's, you can't even, if you're a kid now, you can't even, if someone bullies you at lunch, you can't even punch them in the face. You're suspended for five days.

02:15:42.700 You can't, there's, there's, there's, you know, in one way they're imbuing kids as a lot of false agency, but then they strip basic agency from them. Self-defense, good, wholesome upbringing, good food. Those things are completely stripped from them or they are seriously discouraged.

02:16:01.700 Yep. But the, you know, the choice to go under, undergo gender reassignment surgery at 12 years old, go right ahead. There, there's no opposition to that. 0.96

02:16:13.840 Yep, exactly.

02:16:14.640 The only, the only time their, their, their will and their agency is respected is when they consent to be the object of, of some, someone's pleasure.

02:16:25.020 Right.

02:16:25.140 Indeed. I mean, and this, this is only going to get more intense. This brings us back to our question. Why is it right to oppose this? I mean, like if you have a worldview that says that, you know, it's basically, it's just Darwinistic and it's based on, you know, logical self-preservation of yourself and your immediate biological king group for the purposes of, you know, reproductive success and material comfort.

02:16:49.360 Um, and you, you know, any, any, any modicum of discipline or amelioration of, um, satisfaction of the base passions comes because you want to, you know, improve your long-term chances of survival and success.

02:17:01.360 Well, why, like if you could demonstrate scientifically that, um, organized child trauma, uh, child abuse and trauma-based mind control, uh, uh, was correct. Why wouldn't you engage in that?

02:17:12.580 And I think that you could like, like you see guys like actually openly arguing for this, for their enemies, you know, they'll say things like, oh, you know, all miscegenation is wrong, except when you're raping the women and children of like non-whites, this kind of stuff. 0.92

02:17:25.460 Um, and so people openly argue, I mean, the people openly, it's insane. I mean, it's just, uh, they openly make these statements. You know, I often lambasted.

02:17:34.960 It's like, if you, if you're not willing to personally drop white phosphorus, uh, from B-52s on the African continent or bayonet pregnant, uh, nevruses, then you're a cuck, right? You know, you're not really a racial nationalist, right? 0.92

02:17:47.040 I mean, it's, it's a good question. That's a, I've asked this to people. People should try it. It's an interesting experiment. Ask normie people, well, why is it that it's wrong to rape children? Well, specifically why?

02:18:00.380 Right. And it's shock because oftentimes they'll get really mad at you because they don't have an answer and you call them out on the, on the core premise of the worldview. Um, and I, for me.

02:18:11.940 And in the, well, in the Western tradition, it's, it's essentially part of it's rooted in the Imago Dei and the, and particularly the idea that you're going to pursue those that are youthful and cannot defend themselves.

02:18:26.920 Justice in, in the good or typical, or I think in a very traditional, very old sense built on the idea of defending those that cannot defend themselves because we are imbued with a certain image of God that makes us as humans, particularly worthy of defending one another.

02:18:51.060 Exactly. And that's where, I mean, that is the basic Christian doctrine where, where, you know, dignity comes from the idea that all men are descended from Adam and bear the image and likeness of God.

02:19:03.900 I mean, that's like the whole concept of, of, of basic rights, which are made up, obviously of the human rights is a perversion is like a secular heresy of the idea of basic human dignity, you know, that you have to be restricted in your actions, even towards the most vile of pagans, that there are certain things that you, uh, you cannot do to them.

02:19:23.040 And I mean, you use pagan in the sense of like, you know, child sacrificing Amalekites who have hold to no codes of honor and have no standards of warfare. Um, that kind of thing. 0.96

02:19:34.760 Right. Because you uphold in doing so you uphold a higher principle. And that's, that's the problem with, I mean, as, as heinous as it is to abuse children, what, what spooks me the most in studying these things is not just these, the individual acts of abuse, but the way in which these individual acts are protected by a system and by the exact institutions that are supposed to administer justice.

02:20:04.760 Right. And that's what it comes down to. So why is this important? Well, because if you're going to make the claim, uh, that your ideas are right, that you're right, that your people have a right to exist, you're making an appeal towards justice. So if you don't have a philosophy, a theology, a worldview that supports, um, like even in any basic way, this appeal, then you're just full of shit. Okay. I mean, there's no other way to say it. You can't, you know, you, you are no better than our enemies.

02:20:31.040 Uh, and so like the, the, the legitimating factor for the state authorities, why are they allowed to use violence? Why are they allowed to have the power of taxation, coercive force? Because they're supposed to use these powers to administer justice. That's the whole purpose. And so if they, how is it, why does a state become illegitimate? Because they, they, a, either failed to do this or B, in our case, they use these powers for the inverse, for tyranny, for injustice.

02:20:57.920 Right. Right. And they, they, the state, the system punishes no one as harshly as they punish those who attempt to do so, who attempt to administer justice. Those are the people who will always receive the harshest punishment from the system.

02:21:14.920 A good example of this recently was, uh, the, the, the Larry Nassar, Larry Nassar, the, the, the Olympics, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The, he was a, um, uh, like a physical therapist or kinesiologist for the U S Olympic committee, particularly, uh, he had a lot of time with, uh, the young girls of the U S women's gymnast team.

02:21:38.700 Um, and he molested well over a hundred women over the course of several years, curiously, despite numerous tips of the FBI was never arrested or never even probed until like late 2015.

02:21:52.060 But beyond that, there was an incident, uh, like a month or two ago where, uh, now that he's been tried and he's in the process of being convicted and will likely serve out multiple life sentences in a comfy maximum security jail, where I'm sure that he'll never be allowed in general population.

02:22:08.920 A father asked the judge, uh, point blank, give me five minutes with this man. Now this father had three of his daughters, uh, molested by this, this individual, this, uh, interestingly, a Semite from the, uh, from the near East. 0.97

02:22:29.740 And, um, the judge told him, you know, I can't do that. And he said, just give me one minute.

02:22:35.480 And she, uh, she was pleading with him, literally shaking, pleading with him.

02:22:39.680 And I can't do that, sir. I can't, I, you know, I can't do that.

02:22:43.460 And she didn't want to say, I'm going to hold you in contend because she would look like a, you know, overly zealous civic bitch, but you could tell it's what she wanted to do to try and calm him down.

02:22:55.260 But the man, uh, he leaped over the barrier and, uh, essentially attempted to tackle Nassar. 0.96

02:23:01.300 And he was immediately pummeled by the bailiff, by several, by several sheriff's deputies and handcuffed and had a boot on his face for trying to enact justice on a man who molested three of his daughters with impunity.

02:23:16.720 Exactly. And let me, let me ask you a question. When those cops, those cops do not have to stop him.

02:23:22.640 They could have easily not done anything. What principle were they upholding when they chose to do that?

02:23:28.040 Right. They were, they were upholding the, the, the civic American virtue of everyone deserves a fair trial and every convicted prisoner deserves no harm.

02:23:42.680 The reality is that this is, this is not rooted in, I am actually surprisingly, I am for everyone being given a fair trial and having their say, but the man was, had already been convicted at this point.

02:23:56.280 The man had already been found guilty. The evidence was overwhelming a hundred, you know, hundreds of witness testimonies, years of digital evidence against this man.

02:24:05.120 And he, his fate had been sealed. And he, his fate had been sealed. And yet the natural law of allowing the father of those victimized to enact punishment on a man.

02:24:16.700 And that he shared society with that being undone and that not being allowed to occur was the true betrayal of, of justice, just, you know, pot, human positivist law, which Americans, American common law and the American federal code and things like that.

02:24:36.400 Those are, you know, those are, you know, are in lip speak rooted in natural law. It's, it's littered throughout our, our founding documents. It's littered throughout the writings of our, many of our founding fathers and our early, uh, early Supreme court justices.

02:24:50.720 But I think a lot of it was lip service then. And it's, it's a cruel, perverse lip service now, because now it's so obviously, so blatantly not true that positivist law should serve the natural law, not the other way around.

02:25:05.480 And American positivist law is not based on justice anymore. It is based on enacting a strict code. It, and it's certainly not a traditional common law. It is becoming modern French civic code in a lot of ways in slowly instructing you how to carry your day to day life.

02:25:24.320 And judges are not there to make actual judgments. They're there to be officiators of a, uh, of an incomprehensible, overly long code that no longer feels organic to anyone.

02:25:38.920 And it serves then as a post factor rationalization for the moral choice that those cops made. Those cops made a moral choice.

02:25:47.280 Yeah. That bailiff easily could have done nothing or could have been a little extra slow getting over there.

02:25:52.500 Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

02:25:53.680 Because the only thing preventing that father from getting at, at the pet, at the, you know, the Semitic pedophile was like a middling public attorney. 0.90

02:26:02.160 And I think that if, if a six foot three electricians worker was coming towards you and your client, you probably wouldn't put up too much of a fight. 0.96

02:26:10.060 Cause that guy was probably about ready to knock out the attorney and then tear off the head of this, you know, attempted pedophile or I'm sorry, convicted pedophile. 0.94

02:26:18.240 Yeah. And so we did an episode on the lynching of Leo Frank. And in that case, the, uh, the prison, the wardens, the people at the prison, when they eventually busted Leo Frank out to lynch him and give him what he deserves, uh, they, they were more than happy to turn him over, especially cause they were given a nice pretext for, you know, of, of, of a death squad of armed, of armed citizens. 0.65

02:26:43.920 Right.

02:26:44.200 Who were ready to, ready to shoot if necessary.

02:26:46.540 And I want to focus in on a, I want to hone in on one thing here. And this is that the importance of like the bourgeois cultural attitude that supports this whole system.

02:26:55.580 And this is what, what, um, one of the few things in my life that truly, truly, truly draws up, uh, enmity from, from my heart is this, I, this sneering saccharine worship of the inertia of the, uh, public order by all strata of society, including those who label themselves to be traditionalist.

02:27:17.900 Where they, they, they believe that there is some sort of inherent moral authority or support behind the system at large.

02:27:25.960 I mean, it's this, this conceit is the most unforgivable. It's unforgivable for people who should know better.

02:27:32.740 And it's a default to this supposed decorum, to this supposed politeness that allows them to, to cover for their, for their own moral failings, their own failure to act where, where it needs to be done.

02:27:45.160 And, and I know, I mean, like, I don't want to get a whole thing on Charles Manson and we, we will be actually doing a show on Charles Manson at some point.

02:27:53.560 But the thing that is interesting to me about Charles Manson, what, what makes him fascinating is he forced the system.

02:28:01.240 He was by no means a virtuous man himself, obviously, but he forced the system to live to its own moral assumptions, to, to attempt to try to condemn him on moral grounds.

02:28:11.900 And he never failed to point out that the people who are coming after him, the people who are persecuting him, their hands are by no means clean.

02:28:19.860 That's exactly correct. That's exactly correct. And so, yeah, and this is what it comes back to is that, I mean, if you want to have any sort of pretense of having righteousness or justice or law on your side,

02:28:36.140 Well, number one, you need to realize that if you make any claims towards law, you judge yourself, first of all, that sword is double-edged.

02:28:44.340 So it cuts both ways. And two, you have to make some sort of appeal to a transcendental philosophical reality, because justice is the administration of the good.

02:28:55.140 It's the restoration of a peaceable relationship within the civic society through the use of punishment, essentially a force to restore the good.

02:29:04.360 Right. One of my favorite quotes of all time, and this is to, I guess, counteract any suspicions that what we believe in here might be barbaric or might be uncivilized.

02:29:17.720 One of my favorite quotes comes from G.K. Chesterton, a man of true high civilization, a good-natured Christian Anglo who never did anything wrong to anyone, really,

02:29:29.860 who once wrote in a Cleveland Press interview in 1921,

02:29:34.460 The men whom the people ought to choose to represent them are too busy to take the jobs, but the politician is waiting for it.

02:29:41.540 He's the pestilence of modern times. What we should try to do is make politics as local as possible, keep the politicians near enough to kick them.

02:29:50.980 The villagers who met under the village tree could also hang their politicians to the tree.

02:29:56.140 It's terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today.

02:29:59.300 In order to – and this was a man whose entire life was devoted to discerning what the transcendental good was and what the transcendental was,

02:30:10.160 what God was to himself and certainly to the English people.

02:30:14.520 But he, too, understood that natural law had its place in natural, organic societies.

02:30:19.480 And it appeals to the public order, keep calm and carry on, were completely antithetical to English tradition and certainly antithetical to the natural law.

02:30:34.480 Yes. And I want to bring this back full circle, where I think that one of the biggest problems that we run into is that people who ostensibly have intellectual possession of the truth do not implement it.

02:30:47.660 And they ignore many of these things based on literally just inherited cultural grounds.

02:30:52.780 And so, I mean, I particularly see this in like religious traditionalists where it's like it is the coarsest and grossest absurdity to run into like a rad trad Catholic or Orthodox dude who supports the legitimacy of the American state or democracy or who believes in any sort of secularism and who doesn't – who like opposes the death penalty in America. 0.61

02:31:13.980 Right. Right. For anything but like pragmatic reasons.

02:31:18.040 Right.

02:31:19.520 This is like –

02:31:20.380 It's ironic because I oppose the death penalty in America, but for the reasons that we're talking about here, that the people administering that are the people who should be most subjected to it.

02:31:30.880 Indeed. Right.

02:31:32.120 And so, it's these people are actually the ones who bear – unfortunately, like it's cruel because like we know these people in our lives, but these are the ones who bear responsibility because these are the people who should be on the vanguard of the attack against this reality.

02:31:47.760 But these people have succumbed to the weakness of just, no, just go to your prayer corner.

02:31:52.400 Just go pray. Pray more.

02:31:54.180 Right. Pray more rosary.

02:31:55.140 Go pray the rosary.

02:31:56.300 That's how you're going to fix the problems of America.

02:31:57.980 And it's this lack of willingness to aggressively confront evil and viciously tear it asunder when it's manifested in our society that has enabled this degeneration, this go-along-to-get-along attitude where as long as we've got our little corner where we're allowed to be left in peace and do our church services and we can get our souls to heaven,

02:32:18.560 And this is what has facilitated the wholesale, civilizational and structural collapse of our people and society and religion and morals and justice.

02:32:29.460 And no, it doesn't – the great wickedness is that there are very few people in contemporary Western society who are willing to stand up in the name of that justice and hold the sword of the gospel in their hands and just tell people the truth.

02:32:48.560 And this is the – this is like the terminal that it's the fault of these people because they are the ones who should have been speaking the truth most loudly.

02:32:58.420 You know, and God – and when you see guys like Charles Coughlin who were doing this, who were silenced by their own hierarchy, by their own institutions, when they tried to stand up for the truth, for basic social justice, you know, this is where it's like Psalm 85.

02:33:13.920 It was thee, O man, like mine of me, I walked in – shared in my repasts, you walked in the house of the Lord with me, yet you are a traitor. 0.87

02:33:22.660 May death come upon such ones, may them go down into Hades alive. 0.97

02:33:26.120 And so it's – I mean, man, that's the terminal. 0.53

02:33:33.420 And so really the only solution to these problems is, you know, decentralized guerrilla spiritual resistance, is to try and live this life in yourself as much as you can, you know, and accepting the reality that, you know, the application of moral scrupulosity to yourself and a society will produce eternal dissatisfaction because of how corrupt and – how corrupt we are.

02:33:55.520 But you have to struggle anyway and do whatever you can, and then ultimately to your family, to your church, to your society.

02:34:03.020 And that that's – I mean, you have – that's a 200 – that's a 300-year struggle.

02:34:07.500 So that's the mindset that you have to have.

02:34:10.620 Like, you know, the Taliban have, like, a lot of really great praxis quotes, and one of them is that, you know, our enemies have all of the watches, but we have all the time. 0.77

02:34:21.680 And that we fight not for ourselves, nor for our sons, nor our grandchildren, but for their grandchildren.

02:34:27.140 That has to essentially be the mindset.

02:34:28.880 And so, I mean, without this, like, fanatic commitment to that future eschatological victory, to that reality, I mean, there can be no hope of salvation.

02:34:40.480 And I would say especially without an appeal and a humiliation of ourselves before the divine reality and an appeal to the grace of the personal God to help us, there can be no victory and there can be no justice.

02:34:51.820 Very well said, Florian.

02:34:57.020 Okay.

02:34:57.720 So, gentlemen, we've come to the end of our – we're going to hit a few news stories in Caliuga News, but we've come to the end of, I think, the main segment of the meat and potatoes, so to speak, of the podcast.

02:35:08.000 Is there anything else you guys want to hit on right before we go into the news?

02:35:12.800 I, too, lament how few politicians are hanging today.

02:35:16.960 Yeah, I second that.

02:35:18.020 Yeah, amen.

02:35:18.900 The philosophy that America needs to brush up on is the philosophy of the rope.

02:35:24.800 And I mean that very sincerely.

02:35:26.300 I mean that in a sense people need to reflect on death and on violence and on its place in society in a very serious way because you'll get back to what's important.

02:35:37.980 You at least start there.

02:35:39.760 Talk about Americanism.

02:35:42.080 Americanism, particularly out west, was built on the philosophy of the rope.

02:35:44.920 If you did one bad thing in a town, like you punched some girl in a bar or saloon, boy, it was ending in a newsman's platter for you like really soon thereafter.

02:35:56.160 It wasn't even a week.

02:35:58.920 Right.

02:36:00.460 Yeah, exactly.

02:36:02.080 How far, how far, how far we have fallen.

02:36:05.420 Okay.

02:36:05.720 So, on that bright and cheery note, let's transition into Kali Yuga News.

02:36:11.620 So, gentlemen, this is your first time on the show.

02:36:14.200 I don't know if both of you boys have the show notes up before me, but usually what I do is I allow my guests to pick one of the news stories that we have set out here and kind of, you know, present it, read the headline and some of the bulk of the story, and then we'll discuss it.

02:36:27.900 So, do any of you gentlemen see anything that catches your eye, or would you like to volunteer to do first?

02:36:33.320 No, let's start with the first one here.

02:36:36.420 We have, this is from the Daily Stormer.

02:36:42.780 Let's see.

02:36:44.300 We have France.

02:36:46.200 Sorry, my scroll's working.

02:36:48.160 Let me see theirs.

02:36:48.740 Okay.

02:36:49.300 France, investigation after Wakina of Ark racially abused on Twitter. 0.99

02:36:53.900 When the goyim become angry that you are shoving disgusting brown people down their throats, the solution is to arrest them. 1.00

02:37:02.420 That will totally make the problem go away. 0.99

02:37:05.880 And here is the meat and potatoes of it.

02:37:08.580 We have provided RT, Russia Today.

02:37:12.600 So, apparently, the state prosecutor in the French city of Orleans is investigating possible incitement to racial hatred.

02:37:20.300 Following Twitter attacks on a mixed-race girl chosen to play Joan of Ark in upcoming city celebrations.

02:37:29.400 See, when I first saw this, I guess I thought it was going to be about the, there was a film that's being made, and I believe Joan of Ark is a Negress. 1.00

02:37:38.260 So, I think this is different.

02:37:40.160 Yeah.

02:37:40.720 But.

02:37:41.840 That was my assumption as well.

02:37:43.120 I think this has to do with a local, a local festival, basically.

02:37:48.040 Yes.

02:37:48.540 Yes.

02:37:48.780 That is, appears to be what's going on.

02:37:51.240 So, long story short, there's this festival where they, you know, the maid of Orleans, Joan of Ark, one of my favorite figures of French history.

02:38:01.840 You know, so they have her, somebody kind of dress up, a young girl dress up in armor and ride into town on a horse, on a white horse to honor her.

02:38:08.080 And they picked, you know, some half Polish, half, you know, Negro to do so. 1.00

02:38:12.460 It's interesting that she was half Polish.

02:38:16.880 That's some kind of, I don't know, underhanded slight at the current, the current position that Poland has towards, I suppose, the rest of the EU.

02:38:28.620 Yeah, perhaps.

02:38:29.700 Perhaps it's that petty.

02:38:32.940 Let's see when I, I mean, we can go into commentary, but I think, I think it's basically all here. 0.93

02:38:37.280 I mean, there's a great quote, the basic proof that the Jews are unhinged is in how hard they're riding this replacement thing, because it isn't just this Joan of Ark being a nigger. 1.00

02:38:51.180 Yes. 0.96

02:38:52.100 There's an institutional policy spanning both the public and private sector that no public figure is allowed to be white in a white country. 0.82

02:38:59.320 I mean, it is sort of becoming insane.

02:39:04.040 I think I've said this in the internal myth chat the other day, like it only took 70 years for Jews to go from nearly being wiped out because of just creating Weimar Germany to trying to turn the whole planet into Weimar Earth. 0.89

02:39:18.700 It is, it is, it is kind of fascinating how unhinged they are and how, how much they often don't understand.

02:39:26.500 There are, there are some that I think like the Rebbe and some of these other Jews that have come clean and have, you know, said, look, there are, there is a severe lack of introspection in this community. 1.00

02:39:37.580 They just, they do not ever consider that they are writing their own tragedy.

02:39:42.100 Well, I, I agree that they're unhinged, but we should ask what the purpose of this is.

02:39:48.900 I, I think it has a purpose and it's not just unhinged fanaticism.

02:39:54.600 I, I believe, I, I cannot prove this, but my suspicion is that the purpose of this stuff is less, for instance, miscegenation propaganda or trying to get people to have, I don't know, fond feelings towards the colored races or something.

02:40:11.360 I, I, I think, ultimately has more to do with demoralization propaganda.

02:40:15.480 Yeah.

02:40:16.600 Yeah, because it's to undermine the wide breadth of French history.

02:40:22.360 I mean, Joan of Arc, Joan of Arc is, is a, uh, is one of the guiding lights of the French character.

02:40:31.960 And it was essentially a Catholic, a French Catholic radical who kicked out the English for, for God and for her, for King and for her country of France.

02:40:43.680 Well, it's a perfect opportunity for people to go back if you haven't seen it, uh, already to watch Carl Theodore Dreyer's Passion of Joan of Arc.

02:40:51.660 Highly recommend that film.

02:40:54.280 But I, I would say, you know, they're trying to, they're trying to obviously swamp white countries. 1.00

02:41:02.580 We all know this, but I think people, because people live primarily through media and entertainment, if you can take that over first and really shove it down people's throats,

02:41:12.980 then they're more likely to come to the conclusion that this is something that has, has already happened, that it's completely inevitable and it's irreversible and that you should just give up, go on.

02:41:23.280 I, I, that's my view on the purpose of this stuff.

02:41:25.720 Right. I mean, I think that it, it also, it comes back to the whole, um, forgetfulness, um, the church fathers talk about like the, like the demonic, the diabolical forgetfulness where, I mean, these are extremely, these rituals, these secular rituals are extremely powerful symbols of the manifestation of the natural, national soul of a country.

02:41:44.740 Right. And so it's essentially like blasphemy, um, is what it is as a form of, of national blasphemy.

02:41:50.360 You know, you are desecrating and defiling that, which is nationally sacred, this icon, the symbol of, you know, the purity of like the French, you know, version of warrior spirit, right.

02:42:02.640 Um, you know, the synthesis, the apotheosis of that, like Frankish crusading, like medieval Latin, you know, spirit, the combination of, of perfect purity and chastity and dedication to neighbor and to God.

02:42:14.540 With the, the, the militant desire to fight your enemies.

02:42:18.220 Um, and it's, you know, kind of just replacing this with the most easy virtue signaling, uh, possible, the, the, the grossest decadent bourgeois liberal, uh, morality.

02:42:30.120 And speaking of that, I would also add that I believe that there has been a McDonald's on the site of Joan of Arc's, uh, execution for quite some time now.

02:42:40.800 Oh man.

02:42:41.420 I think it's, I think they have, I have not been there, but I, I believe it had to be disguised as a library in order to be approved, but it is there nonetheless.

02:42:50.760 Wow.

02:42:51.220 I didn't know that.

02:42:52.040 That's a very demoralizing.

02:42:55.320 I think that's the point.

02:42:56.960 Yeah, exactly.

02:42:59.060 Yeah.

02:43:00.340 Um, so do you gentlemen, uh, have any further comments on this story?

02:43:03.300 I mean, I think, uh, or do you want to move on to the next?

02:43:05.940 Yeah.

02:43:06.540 Hans, you want to roll with the next one?

02:43:07.880 Hans?

02:43:15.760 Yeah.

02:43:16.160 Sorry about that.

02:43:16.660 I was muted.

02:43:17.240 Uh, can we just choose any of them from this list here?

02:43:19.960 Yeah.

02:43:20.100 Whatever.

02:43:20.400 Yeah.

02:43:20.580 Whatever one you'd like.

02:43:21.780 I'll choose this, uh, this voice of Europe, the, uh, EU Hungarian town.

02:43:25.820 Uh, my Hungarian pronunciation is not great.

02:43:30.960 I believe this is, uh, Zekesve Hervar.

02:43:33.900 Yeah.

02:43:34.640 Zekesve Hervar is, uh, apparently the EU jury of the European Capital of Culture contest said that one of the participating towns is, quote, too white and there are not enough migrants, unquote.

02:43:47.400 Uh, Hungarian news website, 888.hu reports, with only seven semifinalists left, the Hungarian town of Zekesve Hervar made a promotional film for the jury.

02:44:01.020 The film shows the town's most beautiful places, a happy couple, and some kids playing.

02:44:05.240 But the EU jury rejected the submission of the town's debut film.

02:44:11.220 There are too many happy white people in crosses. 0.99

02:44:15.240 Oy vey! 0.99

02:44:17.320 And not as far as the jury said.

02:44:21.400 The mayor of the Hungarian town, Dr. Andras Czerpakovich, uh, gave a press conference about the decision of the jury on Wednesday.

02:44:32.200 He said that, in fact, no expert hearing was conducted, but the decision was based, was solely based on daily political issues and accusations were directed at Zekesve Hervar and the delegation.

02:44:45.200 The mayor also recalled the criticisms made by the film committee about Zekesve Hervar.

02:44:51.020 They left the poor and the migrants out of the film, but at the same time, there were too many crosses, churches, and what was even worse, the attitude of the city, because they regarded this as a value.

02:44:59.980 The jury decided, after all, to recommend the entries of Georg, Debrecen, and Vejprem as finalists for the European Capital of Culture.

02:45:10.260 I, uh, I have been meaning to go to Hungary for a long time, and I was planning to do it in, uh, in the next year or two, potentially.

02:45:19.060 And, uh, it is, I, I have family who have been there, and I have friends who have been there.

02:45:25.120 It is apparently an immensely beautiful country, and the Hungarians are an immensely interesting people.

02:45:33.300 I have a whole, I own at least one book in print and a few others.

02:45:37.880 There's the deal with the history of the Hungarians and the history of, uh, what the Romans would have called, you know, Pannonia, as it's been known for a long time.

02:45:46.300 The Pannonian Plains and the, and the Corpathian Basin.

02:45:49.760 Uh, I would, I, I'm, like, deeply saddened that, uh, for, that they're not being recognized.

02:45:56.500 And it's for the most petty reasons.

02:45:59.840 There's not, this is a direct quote.

02:46:01.860 There are too many happy white people and crosses. 1.00

02:46:05.900 Yeah, I mean, it's like a Soviet complaint.

02:46:09.820 Like, they need, they have to be, there have to be less crosses, and happy people are not struggling for the purity of the, the glorious social revolution. 0.85

02:46:20.740 Or some, something really ridiculous. 0.70

02:46:23.880 It's almost comical. 0.80

02:46:26.440 This feels like a Daily Stormer article.

02:46:29.180 Yeah, a Sampirer article, yeah.

02:46:30.440 I feel like someone from the Daily Stormer infiltrated the EU jury and gave this excuse, there are too many happy white people and crosses. 0.79

02:46:40.540 Well, that's what happens, like.

02:46:42.220 We are, since you mentioned it, Hans, we are trying to, some of the, Hans and I, and maybe one of the other guys from our show might be, uh, trying to take a class trip to Eastern Europe at some point.

02:46:51.580 So, if you have any, if you have any listeners, Florian, that, uh, are in Eastern Europe, then.

02:46:56.440 Ah, maybe one or two.

02:46:58.180 Let me know.

02:46:58.880 So, I can, uh, hopefully I can put you in touch with some people.

02:47:02.180 Yeah, um, this, like, the article speaks so boldly for itself.

02:47:05.960 There's almost, like, not a lot of commentary that you have to make.

02:47:08.580 I would just say that, you know, what happens is the pride goeth before the fall, right?

02:47:13.660 And, I mean, even in, in esotericism, um, David Hoffman talks about, like, revelation of the method, right?

02:47:19.620 Oh, yeah.

02:47:20.080 When you get to, like, the peak fluorescence, like, you have the full spectrum dominance, and, like, you've got that vice grip on all levels of society, you can just be open, and you can just say, no, yeah.

02:47:29.060 I mean, um, these people are not genocided and disfigured and corrupted enough for us to hold them up as an example to the rest of the world as the paragon of Europe's internal values, because that's who we are.

02:47:39.980 Uh, we're a corrupted, mongrelized, disappointed race. 0.68

02:47:45.140 And back to demoralization propaganda, that's one of the main purposes of revelation of the method, because it essentially spooks people who have eyes to see, because they see this immense force being mobilized in service, in service of the power, and because they can, because the power is flaunting it in an arrogant way, it has a chilling, demoralizing effect,

02:48:06.720 that these people could be so, so powerful, and so diabolical, and flaunt it so openly.

02:48:14.160 Right.

02:48:15.280 Exactly.

02:48:16.140 Well, and it's, uh, the only real solution to that is, um, well, we have the example of great martyr Theodore of Tyro to, uh, to look upon.

02:48:24.100 I mean, he basically, the emperor asked him to, um, stop, you know, uh, eat sacrifices dedicated to idols.

02:48:30.100 And so what Theodore said, okay, I'll, uh, he was the local military commander.

02:48:34.420 He said, okay, well, I'll meet you, uh, in the pagan temple, like, the next day.

02:48:37.940 And he invited the emperor there and smashed up all of the idols in front of him.

02:48:42.100 And, like, the emperor set him on fire.

02:48:45.020 And he, like, just laughed at him.

02:48:48.200 You know, and, uh...

02:48:50.100 The stories like that always remind me of, uh, it was St. Boniface, the guy who chopped down the Saxon tree.

02:48:57.860 Yeah, yeah, he just, he, some Saxon chieftain kind of dared him, like, you're going to get hit by lightning.

02:49:03.880 And he just walked up to the tree with a giant wooden axe and took it down.

02:49:08.180 And, uh, the chieftain, you know, threatened to kill him.

02:49:12.700 Basically, like, I thought your god was going to do that for you.

02:49:16.580 It's, it's that, it's, it's that sort of Chad mentality.

02:49:20.560 Like, you know, what are you going to do about it?

02:49:22.460 Are you going to do anything?

02:49:24.280 And you can apply that to right now.

02:49:25.740 The Hungarians are essentially daring the EU.

02:49:28.440 You know, what are you going to do about the fact that we have a giant fence?

02:49:32.040 And we have armed guards pointing guns at migrants.

02:49:34.620 And we've convinced half of Eastern Europe to do the same thing now.

02:49:38.620 The Chad partner versus the Virgin collaborator.

02:49:41.860 Yeah.

02:49:42.120 Yeah.

02:49:43.080 No, I mean, that's, that's, that's literally what it is.

02:49:45.440 And I mean, um, and the biggest thing is that the, the only impediment to that, that, uh,

02:49:52.460 mentality is fear is a fear and cowardice.

02:49:55.360 Right.

02:49:55.680 And that, that fear and cowardice, you know, I'm, I can only speak for myself and my, in

02:50:00.340 your own life.

02:50:01.000 It blossoms out of, um, comfort and complacency.

02:50:04.940 Um, that's, that's where it comes from.

02:50:06.820 And it's, it's like in, in a set of struggle and in, in a misery that you kind of like realize,

02:50:11.840 Oh wait, I actually, I can, I can, uh, I don't have to care.

02:50:15.440 Um, and that really there are not, there are not so many things in life that are, uh, superior

02:50:21.560 to dying, um, for the truth.

02:50:23.980 And in fact, nothing, but it's a surprise that the Hungarians haven't just said, we're not 0.95

02:50:28.780 actually white.

02:50:29.400 We're Asians from the near East.

02:50:31.540 We kind of came in on horseback 1200 years ago.

02:50:34.360 Like they could easily go with the whole, we're immigrants to angle.

02:50:38.400 And this is our place. 0.86

02:50:40.480 I mean, that would be a good troll.

02:50:42.340 And I don't know why they haven't done that yet.

02:50:44.980 Cause it can, they can appoint, they can point that, you know, the average Hungarian

02:50:49.800 allele frequency and be like, Oh, we're 6% Asian on average or something to that effect.

02:50:55.400 I don't know why they, they, they've, they've neglected to do that, but that would be the

02:51:00.200 ultimate troll is essentially say, well, we're not actually white.

02:51:03.000 We're just Asians. 0.88

02:51:04.060 So you can't, you can't actually tell us we need to bring in migrants because we're already 0.80

02:51:07.720 diverse.

02:51:10.600 Yeah.

02:51:11.000 I mean, that would be, I would be a troll, but, uh, yeah, go ahead.

02:51:15.080 Uh, go ahead, Nick.

02:51:15.840 Well, it's interesting to hear the Europeans using white, like in this kind of context, right? 0.92

02:51:20.880 But this is something that I actually, I'll speak to this extremely directly. 0.93

02:51:24.980 There's this like ridiculous, absurd, insane meme that like whiteness only exists in America 0.81

02:51:30.380 and that like European nationalists don't think of themselves as white. 0.82

02:51:34.400 Um, and I can tell you, I was just there and I just met a whole bunch of these guys and

02:51:38.580 like 180%, like 180 degrees, the opposite of their mentality.

02:51:45.120 They all think of themselves as white. 0.57

02:51:47.200 Um, but they of course realized that that's, that there's, it's, that's like just the foundation

02:51:51.780 that there's so much that's built on top of that.

02:51:54.620 Right.

02:51:55.480 Uh, you know, and that's the difference between us and them. 1.00

02:51:59.060 And so like this, this stupid idiotic meme that like Europeans don't think of themselves 1.00

02:52:03.840 as white is, is the dumbest, dumbest possible thing. 1.00

02:52:06.940 Like, uh, it's just, it's factually untrue. 1.00

02:52:09.520 And it's like a meme burger Americans tell themselves so that they have like an excuse not to engage

02:52:14.880 in like European style real politic and they can continue their racist liberalism.

02:52:19.260 Good point.

02:52:20.160 Good point.

02:52:21.380 Yeah.

02:52:21.740 I just, I just think it's interesting cause it's sort of an admission that of a, you

02:52:26.960 know, war of the coloreds against Europe.

02:52:29.900 Right.

02:52:30.460 It's, it's no longer like it would be fine as long as they had coloreds from somewhere 1.00

02:52:35.160 else.

02:52:36.360 Right.

02:52:36.840 It has to be less white.

02:52:39.680 Yep.

02:52:40.720 Yep.

02:52:41.360 Exactly.

02:52:41.800 And so there's already a huge gypsy population in Hungary that it's never talked about.

02:52:48.700 It's never mentioned that the, I think even Viktor Orban is part, is part Roma.

02:52:53.840 Like it's not, it's never brought up that the Hungarians already have a huge, uh, a huge

02:53:01.680 ethnic diversity problem and that their entire history has been chocked full of the, you know, 1.00

02:53:07.720 sort of the Magyar underclass that makes up the slight majority of the country having

02:53:13.820 to contend with a lot of ethnic strife between, uh, Transylvanic Romanians and, and Roma and

02:53:21.140 Germans and all kinds of groups coming in and out of and trying to settle.

02:53:25.880 I'm surprised no one has mentioned any of that.

02:53:28.340 But it's, it, it's weird that, uh, they don't get any credit for already having to deal with

02:53:34.940 a permanent refugee population.

02:53:37.180 And that's all the Roma shanty towns. 1.00

02:53:40.040 Yeah.

02:53:40.140 Well, I mean, it's because their outlook is cynical.

02:53:41.680 It's not principled, right?

02:53:43.340 Right.

02:53:43.500 I mean, again, that's the thing is that when you abandon logos, you don't get like a worldview

02:53:49.180 that makes sense.

02:53:49.860 It's just, it's schizophrenic.

02:53:51.340 It's, it's not causal anymore.

02:53:53.080 That's the hallmark of chaos is that there's, there's just not a reason for, there's no

02:53:57.960 talos, right?

02:53:59.080 It's just like, um, you know, like you can think of like a demon as basically just like

02:54:03.900 an AI with no purpose, like screaming into the night without end.

02:54:08.120 Um, and same thing goes for the Poles who have taken over a million, I think Ukrainian 1.00

02:54:12.800 refugees, not, not, not, they don't have a million static.

02:54:17.080 They sort of, those numbers fluctuate as people come in and out, but the Poles have 0.66

02:54:20.940 done a huge, huge service and trying to ensure the survival of the Ukrainian people through

02:54:29.600 the course of the civil war.

02:54:30.800 And they're told constantly, well, why don't you take enough refugees?

02:54:35.200 There's at least hundreds of thousands that are permanent refugees in Eastern Poland now

02:54:39.980 and in Southern Poland.

02:54:41.440 Yet they don't, they don't count and they're not like, yeah, because, because they're poor

02:54:44.860 white people is their poor, very devout Christian white people, I guess. 0.82

02:54:49.300 Yeah. 0.88

02:54:49.400 That's basically it.

02:54:50.100 Right.

02:54:51.500 That's basically it.

02:54:52.860 Okay.

02:54:53.220 We're going to go to the last article and then we'll close her up. 0.68

02:54:55.300 This is, uh, from Russia today, China to topple United States as biggest nuclear energy

02:55:00.680 nation.

02:55:02.500 Beijing is forecast to triple its nuclear capacity in the next 20 years.

02:55:06.960 Ousting the U.S. is the number one nuclear power producer, according to the International

02:55:10.520 Energy Agency.

02:55:12.200 There's a quote here.

02:55:14.160 Uh, China's coming back strong.

02:55:15.540 Today, there are about 60 nuclear power plants under construction and more than one third

02:55:20.700 of them are in China.

02:55:21.960 China is growing.

02:55:22.840 And as a result of that, we'll soon see China overtaking the United States as the number

02:55:26.460 one nuclear power in the world.

02:55:27.560 So China's got set like 20 nuclear power plants, uh, under construction.

02:55:32.660 There's also another important thing here.

02:55:35.220 If it continues like that, the U.S. nuclear capacity will go from 20% to 7%.

02:55:39.340 The U.S. nuclear, uh, industry will face some drawbacks that it sees in solar energy.

02:55:45.280 China is learning by doing, bringing costs down.

02:55:47.680 Therefore, they are now ready to export technology and are much more cost effective than others.

02:55:51.780 And they have already challenged the established exporters such as the U.S., Japan, Korea, and

02:55:56.880 European countries.

02:55:58.420 Um, I will give you an example, Birol says.

02:56:01.640 Only five months ago, the Chinese government took a decision to limit the use of coal and

02:56:05.660 move to liquefied natural gas.

02:56:07.660 As a result of that, the Chinese LNG import increased more than 50%.

02:56:11.720 And LNG prices doubled from six to $12 in the Asia Pacific region.

02:56:16.800 He says, when China changes, everything changes.

02:56:20.140 The new China energy policies mean a new phase for the global energy markets.

02:56:24.900 He added.

02:56:26.320 So this is part of our, uh, ongoing Mysterium Fashi's China news coverage, where we bring

02:56:31.520 you the very, uh, the China news, China all the time, deep China insights.

02:56:36.700 Uh, and we do, we do this because the ship, the geopolitical shift, uh, is, has become

02:56:41.700 becoming Eurasian.

02:56:42.520 Uh, you know, I, I literally have people that write to me accusing me of being like a Eurasianist,

02:56:46.400 Duganist, Putinist, shill. 0.55

02:56:49.080 Yeah.

02:56:49.580 In the most flustered of terms.

02:56:51.440 Um, but you know, I'm not a Duganist, not a Eurasianist.

02:56:55.660 It's just a fact that, you know, where there's a power vacuum, uh, their actors step in to

02:56:59.820 take over.

02:57:00.300 And that, um, that China is going to dominate the technocracy in the next century.

02:57:06.660 And so the myth of the 21st century, I think, will be Chinese technocracy if, uh, we don't 0.93

02:57:10.600 all get wiped out and Christ doesn't come back.

02:57:13.740 Yeah.

02:57:14.400 A lot of, uh, so generation three and generation three plus, uh, nuclear reactor technology

02:57:19.940 is overwhelmingly, um, in Asia and East Asia.

02:57:24.860 It's overwhelmingly in Japan and in, uh, to an extent Korea, China, and in some cases

02:57:32.580 the Chinese have used their strategy of, um, there's a lot of terms for it.

02:57:38.280 One of the ones I've, I've learned in school was IP wrangling and it was effectively a way

02:57:43.740 of, uh, saying we will do, we will commit to an investment with you for 51% stake and access

02:57:50.580 to technology, to the technology, including blueprints, including the underlying IP and

02:57:55.140 intellectual property.

02:57:57.020 And this is how they would slowly steal technology.

02:57:59.620 This has been the Chinese strategy for 35 years now.

02:58:04.440 And they have successfully, uh, developed a, a real strategy, a real development strategy

02:58:14.120 for pursuing generation three nuclear reactor technology at a huge scale.

02:58:20.580 Now, part of that is because the scale of their society requires it and that, that introduces

02:58:25.280 a lot of risk, but it's, it's very, um, it's very sad to see Westinghouse allowing itself

02:58:33.320 to become a tool of the Chinese energy complex in order to make additional money and not go

02:58:40.180 with the extra effort to invest in the United States and to try and improve the U S nuclear

02:58:44.860 situation.

02:58:46.320 Part of the problem is that like, uh, uh, the U S nuclear situation has been a disaster

02:58:52.560 since, uh, through mile Island.

02:58:54.960 No one wants to invest in nuclear.

02:58:56.980 No one, you know, no one has come up with real ideas.

02:59:00.960 There's a lot of innovation and reactor design and in reactor technology in the United States,

02:59:07.260 but then none of it is ever implemented.

02:59:08.860 So now we just serve as some kind of innovation lab for Chinese industry to enact.

02:59:15.300 It's, it's pretty sad.

02:59:17.740 Yeah.

02:59:18.040 I mean, I think that, um, one of the things, like, one of the things that I describe oftentimes

02:59:24.280 that like the Chinese regime of having this critical qualities that they have the critical

02:59:28.900 quality of seriousness in their approach to governance.

02:59:32.200 Right.

02:59:32.760 Yeah.

02:59:32.940 Um, and that they, they actually care about running their country and about developing

02:59:37.100 infrastructure that's in their advantage.

02:59:38.920 And because they have a command society, they just do things.

02:59:42.380 Um, and sometimes that works, you know, and sometimes, uh, that doesn't, and you get

02:59:46.700 to deal with China problems, um, which nobody wants to deal with, uh, especially China. 0.94

02:59:51.680 And so I think that the, like, I think the thing about nuclear power is like nuclear power

02:59:58.160 is, um, as long as it doesn't go, you know, tits up is like brilliant.

03:00:02.500 It's fantastic. 0.93

03:00:03.840 Uh, it's, it's a fat, an excellent, excellent source of like sovereign, you know, relatively

03:00:09.120 clean energy generation.

03:00:11.240 Um, and you know, the, I would say that the thing is that in China, the reason why they're 1.00

03:00:16.600 doing this is because China is a leading innovator in green energy technology.

03:00:20.180 Uh, because of the mass pollution that has been caused by like coal based, uh, power

03:00:25.120 generation.

03:00:27.960 And so, you know, they, they, they realize that, uh, that the future is in these sort

03:00:33.920 of technologies, which don't lead to total collapse of your civilization at skyrocketing

03:00:38.360 rates of cancer.

03:00:39.960 Right.

03:00:40.840 Yeah.

03:00:41.320 They, they are well poised to create, um, a serious innovation gap.

03:00:50.820 Now what the United States can try and do is work within North America and some Europeans 0.99

03:00:56.640 like Norway to corner the energy market.

03:00:59.600 Uh, I think Trump has talked about this, that if we don't use what we have at our disposal,

03:01:04.760 which is an immense amount of resources.

03:01:07.340 So the resource side of the energy market and exert some control and try and prevent the

03:01:13.640 Chinese from becoming the sole arbiters of fuel materials and the sole, uh, transportation, 0.83

03:01:21.300 uh, uh, not transmit moral, you know, the sole supply chain, uh, administrators for these

03:01:29.400 materials, then we are definitely going to, to lose this, this race. 0.98

03:01:34.400 There, there's, there's never going to be another chance.

03:01:38.440 Absolutely.

03:01:39.040 Barring, barring extreme collapse, you know, once, once you've lost the energy market in

03:01:43.680 the modern world, you, you never recover.

03:01:46.140 Once Britain lost its control over the energy markets, it's been reduced to a fledgling island

03:01:52.100 in Northwestern Europe.

03:01:53.440 Yep, exactly.

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03:02:06.160 It's been a pleasure as always joining me today.

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03:02:23.080 and Hans Lander.

03:02:24.360 I hope I'm not messing up the last name from Myth of the 20th Century.

03:02:27.760 Nick, uh, Hans, thanks a lot for coming on.

03:02:30.200 I really appreciate it.

03:02:31.000 It's been, uh, it's been fantastic.

03:02:33.320 Thank you.

03:02:33.800 I enjoyed it, man.

03:02:34.640 Uh, happy to come back sometime in the future.

03:02:36.780 I will definitely take you up on that offer.

03:02:39.520 Thanks for having me on, man.

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03:02:46.060 months ago, actually last year on a Vatican II episode.

03:02:49.240 Oh, that's right.

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03:02:51.220 And if you guys want to check that out, it's a great episode with Adam and I, Florian

03:02:55.460 and Doc Savage.

03:02:56.620 That's right.

03:02:57.480 That's right.

03:02:58.140 Wow.

03:02:58.660 It's all coming back to me now.

03:03:01.240 Yeah.

03:03:01.980 Okay.

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