In this episode, we are joined by Nick Mason and Hans Lander from Myth of the 20th Century to discuss the role of philosophy in shaping our worldview, and how it shapes the way our society is put together.
01:19:32.260I think most of us come out of this background, and a lot of the listeners to the show probably have been there at one point in their lives.
01:19:39.940Trying to avoid, you know, being wiped out, a Darwinian struggle is perfectly natural.
01:19:44.960I take a perfectly sane approach to that, and I say that's a natural drive.
01:19:50.460But what it comes down to is being devoted to ideologies that we would just kind of say are racist liberalism.
01:19:56.980And the problem with a lot of these ideologies that they develop, someone was talking about this recently, I'm blinking on who,
01:20:04.060but they said basically that your ideology doesn't matter, that your ideology just flat out does not matter in the face of a large-scale society, of a overly-scaled society.
01:20:17.960Now, you can have an ideal to strive for, and you can have an underlying philosophy.
01:20:22.400But ideology is not going to bring you anywhere, and you need to have a serious strategy rooted in something real,
01:20:33.740something that actually speaks to the human spirit.
01:20:36.980And for me, and for you, Florian, and for a lot of people, that is what Christianity is.
01:20:46.680Well, and part of the reason that the dissidence that's happening, that there is, I will concede,
01:20:54.780there is more people starting to pay attention to what's going on in recent years than previously.
01:21:02.480However, the reason, one of the main reasons that they're not willing to challenge the fundamental philosophical paradigm of the ruling elite
01:21:11.640is that they adopt this democratic attitude where they have to meet the masses where they are,
01:21:18.320and the masses are fully inculcated in this, and so it doesn't force them to re-examine those premises
01:21:25.640because they're content to just go to people where they are, and where people are is, sadly, very morally corrupt.
01:21:34.240Yeah, I would say the worst they have ever been in the history of the world is because it's total nihilism.
01:25:59.880It's this body, this corpse, which is animated on like the unnatural power of like liquid currency and technology.
01:26:09.540And, you know, undergirding all of it is the implicit force of the police state and of the military, which keeps everything in line.
01:26:17.460And we've just developed to the point where we can sustain a culture of decadence, which is so unparalleled that we've been able to like shamble along with, you know, as the engineers inside of the golem hurry about to try to fix these various disintegrating patches of flesh that have been sewn together by the rabbi as the monster groans in pain as it slowly disintegrates into goo.
01:26:42.740And a lot of the early revolutionaries believed fully in what you were saying and had a lot of, particularly the southern ones, had a huge amount of suspicion towards the revolution.
01:26:56.900And that I think all the revolutionaries, with the exception of, you know, what we would probably consider communists today, like pain, believed that it should be restricted to only certain groups of people, namely themselves, for ourselves and our posterity.
01:27:12.740That referred to themselves and their offspring.
01:27:18.060And it was certainly, I don't think, ever intended, although, you know, there are some quotes from like Ben Franklin talking about one day having a whole continent full of Anglos.
01:27:28.720But it was never intended to sweep across North America and sweep across the planet the way it has.
01:27:36.460And you can see a lot of the philosophical structural underpinnings collapsing under their own weight because it was never intended to handle this kind of worldview.
01:27:51.680That's exactly the problem that Henry Adams is dealing with.
01:27:56.540If anything, it was a revolution to preserve localist autonomy.
01:28:01.720It was never a revolution and it was never set up as a means of then building its own empire.
01:28:08.480I mean, America is like Rome in many ways.
01:28:10.600And one of the ways it's like Rome is that it essentially conquered half the world in defense of itself.
01:28:15.420And then it completely obliterated its underlying yelming class to, as sort of a fission process, to grow the economy faster, to keep up with the entire financial structure that it had devised to protect itself.
01:28:34.460And now the entire country is sort of falling apart at the seams and you have a genuine American Christianity in a lot of forms.
01:28:43.400I'm not counting Mormonism, but you have genuine American Christianities, including American Catholicism, that are being caught in an ideological crossfire between the far, you know, there are elements of the far right or just kind of racist liberal types who blame the church for all sorts of grievances.
01:29:03.660And you have those on the left who want to dismantle the church and dismantle society under the church because they see it as the only thing holding back the world from succumbing to, I don't know, a giant shopping mall with comic sands written everywhere.
01:29:20.100Well, what you're saying, Hans, reminds me of my favorite quote on America.
01:29:27.620So, America's battle is yet to fight, and we, sorrowful though nothing doubting, will wish her strength for it.
01:29:35.580New spiritual pythons, plenty of them, enormous megatherions, as ugly as were ever born of mud, loom huge and hideous out of the twilight future on America.
01:29:47.520And she will have her own agony and her own victory, but on other terms than she is quite yet aware of.
01:29:57.760And so what, well, so we've come to, I think that, I think most of everybody who's listening to this podcast sort of has come to the conclusion, the same conclusion that we have that America is this necromantic monster that is rapidly degenerating into nothing.
01:30:14.400Because it's, it's, it's like got this, I don't know, I don't know, ouroboric, ouroboric self-devouring tendency, where it just completely guts itself in order to maintain a little bit of short-term power.
01:30:28.360And, you know, it's really funny when, like, I hear boomers who, even boomers who are like really woke, who think that this system is going to like go on forever, because, I've heard this, I've seriously heard like boomers who totally understand Zog, they totally understand all of this.
01:30:43.720But because, like, in their life, they've been treated to like the full bread and circus, you know, American empire, and that has been so effective at pacifying their generation, like they think that the American empire will never collapse because it's so effective at providing the SOMA to numb the revolutionary activity of the masses, right?
01:31:02.920Right. Well, the boomers were really glad that history had ended in the 90s. And I guess the only thing that we really have is guys in their 20s and 30s living now is, I mean, at least we can look forward to history returning, because things are about to get really terrible.
01:31:20.280Well, this brings me to a question that Hans and I, I think, are of two different minds on. We do debate this from time to time.
01:31:32.920I mean, that's that you see, in the context of these American dissidents, a desire to sort of reclaim Americanism, to reclaim, to stamp their brand of racial politics on the American ideology and to reclaim it. What are your thoughts on that, Florian?
01:31:55.500I did a whole in-depth episode on American nationalism, and it's basically...
01:32:02.180Yeah, it's basically national Bolshevism, where you believe the false myths that are created by the regime, and then try to pervert them to service your own political ends.
01:32:11.940And so, like, that really is, like, to try and, like, rehabilitate Abraham Lincoln as this, like, you know, great, you know, Yankee, white supremacist, racialist, you know, figure, is the same as trying to, like, make Joseph Stalin into an anti-Semite who enacted laws that put anti-Semites to death in the Soviet Union.
01:33:14.500They're Finns up in Minnesota, and they're Southerners like Hunter Wallace down in the Antebellum South.
01:33:20.380But they're not working together cohesively, and the system isn't really designed for them to work together cohesively.
01:33:29.000So I don't know if Americanism can really be salvaged without really examining what do we want Americanism to actually be.
01:33:37.940Because everyone is sort of working within the lens of the figures that have already come and gone.
01:33:43.500And they're working within the parameters that have been set.
01:33:47.300And one of the things they'll always see a lot of these types do is they'll take the sort of poisoned aphorisms about America that black nationalists have.
01:34:02.700And they'll say, well, that's actually the truth.
01:34:04.060And that's a good thing, because why don't you step back and actually examine if, A, that's the truth, just because it's some annoying black guy telling it to you.
01:34:12.280And, B, do you really even want that to be the truth?
01:34:16.500And do you want to try and define something new?
01:34:18.800Because there's a whole swath of people on this continent that are about to get swept away and potentially hurt and seriously killed.
01:34:27.100And if you're just going to come up with little ideologies constantly to try and reclaim what it used to be, you're not going to solve anything and you're going to be swept away along with them.
01:34:39.720And so I don't think, I mean, if we compare America to Rome, it would be impossible for America to continue to exist unless its worldies logos changed, converted, basically.
01:34:52.360It would have to have such a radical, like metanoia, a turning away from its foundational principles and become something that it was, that is totally against what it was in the beginning in order for it to survive in any way.
01:35:05.080And I just, I think that's like a nonsense idea.
01:35:07.220I just don't think that that's going to happen, you know, because I just don't, I don't like, it's certainly not within like 20, 30 years.
01:35:16.440Um, so I think that this kind of segues really nicely into like touching on the basic areas of philosophy and it's like when we talk about like a lot of these American white nationalists or Americanists, um, they have this kind of like pragmatic, you know, biological worldview where, you know, what's politically correct or what's politically desirable is determined, you know, based on, you know, this, the most basic form of like,
01:36:17.400I mean, if you're, if you're an atheist, like you can't make that claim or the good just becomes synonymous with, uh, like material prosperity, which is just racist liberalism.
01:36:28.220And so when we come back to these three basic areas of philosophy, ethics, what we ought to do, metaphysics, how things work and epistemology, how we ought to know or what we know, um, these things are the preconditions, the presuppositions, which enable us to say things like, yes, it's desirable that we fight for our, the preservation, the racial integrity of the remnants of whatever folk remains on the North American continent.
01:36:52.300How, you know, how, you know, broadly defined, uh, as, you know, white in opposition to the other races, which itself is a degeneration from the full flowering of a integrated ethnic idea, but it's all we got left.
01:37:13.180So, I mean, this is where we, that's where the good knowledge of the good is where we can have an understanding of justice.
01:37:19.760And the prevailing conception of justice in American society is, is basically Rawlsian.
01:37:27.300It's, it's a concept of fairness based on certain egalitarian assumptions that disparities between people are only the result of, uh, some kind of unfairness that everyone would given in a totally equal playing field would arrive at the same place.
01:37:46.640And typically when these white nationalists are talking about, uh, justice, they're going in with that exact same plea that it's, the system is unfair to them.
01:38:01.080And so this is the thing they're making, they're making an appeal to this, this implied transcendental form of fairness or justice or goodness, but they don't, most of them don't believe in that.
01:38:12.120They don't have a philosophy which permits the existence of such a form, um, you know, and it's not, these are not things that are self-revealing because the, the idea of what is just, of what ought to be done is demonstrably radically different in different societies and civilizations over the course of history.
01:38:30.460And the society that we have now, even if examined by someone who lived a hundred years ago, is the worst hellish inverted nightmare that they could possibly imagine.
01:38:40.580Uh, it's a total opposite of like all of their values.
01:38:44.080Um, and so, and so what this, what this proves, what this demonstrates is that the, those values that, you know, our ancestors had a hundred years ago, um, were basically the lingering remnants of what came before the establishment of this, you know, revolutionary liberal state paradigm.
01:39:02.080And that the end terminal of that paradigm is just nihilism.
01:39:17.840And so, you know, there are different solutions to this problem as we've talked before on the show.
01:39:22.860I mean, you know, there are, of course, like, um, pagan philosophical worldviews that can provide you with answers to, to ethics and metaphysics and epistemology.
01:39:32.020Um, but the ones that our civilization is built upon indisputably are the Christian, um, the Christian philosophical concepts, which derive from its theology.
01:39:41.880And the, the theology is not, um, an analog.
01:39:48.220We don't, I don't know if we really want to get into that, but, you know, so for us,
01:39:52.320I guess we can very simply for, for the Christian, right?
01:39:55.340His philosophy starts with the person of Jesus Christ, because the person of Jesus Christ is the logos.
01:40:01.680All philosophy proceeds from the personal reality of Jesus, the second person of the Holy Trinity.
01:40:07.860And so when he says, I am the truth, the way in the life, like he's making an epistemological statement.
01:40:13.880He's saying that he personally is the foundation for all knowledge and for all truth.
01:40:18.300This would lead, um, Nicholas Cabasillas, a famous, um, uh, Eastern Roman Byzantine theologian in the 14th century from Thessaloniki to, you know, when he defines like, well, what happens at baptism?
01:40:31.280Well, you get, you gain ontological reality.
01:40:33.600You begin to exist because before baptism, you're bound for death.
01:40:38.880Uh, and if everything is constantly dying, if everything is in a state of flux and there's no certainty of the world beyond that reality, then there is a nihilism.
01:40:47.880There is an equalitarian or an egalitarian, uh, element introduced by the universal reign of death over all creation of the, the passability of the physical world.
01:40:58.300And so in order for you to surmount this, in order for you to have a worldview that is transcendent, that exists above the passability of the physical world, above the, the ravages and the snares of death, you know, you actually have to like have an eye, you have to have a foundation for that.
01:41:13.480So you can't just, you know, so like a strong, um, let's like, like, let's take it kind of back to like a normie, right?
01:41:21.100Kind of a normie, you know, whatever, like atheist, liberal, they live their lives as if their lives have meaning as if like the act, when they get up in the morning and they go to work, when they eat, when they do anything, implicitly, they, they do things with the expectation that there's a causal relationship between action and effect.
01:41:42.140That what they do has a purpose. It has a telos and end. Um, and whether or not that's, you know, implicitly their own self-satisfaction, it doesn't really matter. They operate this way. Everybody operates this way. Cause you can't, you can't live your life thinking everything you do, you know, is vapid. Um, cause you just kill yourself, right?
01:42:01.680Yeah. I was going to say, they would opt out.
01:42:05.800Their telos is effectively working in some capacity to fulfill social trends or social processes that involve them being, being materialistic and acquiring material to fulfill those social processes. And a lot of that's what we would kind of call virtue signaling.
01:42:23.100They don't, you know, there are, there are none of them that wake up and tell themselves I'm going to work today for God and country. That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to work so that I can at least help preserve this a little longer.
01:42:35.940So people aren't dying in the street just yet. And because it's labor is the, is the gift of God. And if you have the ability to work, you should work. None of them are telling themselves that. So they are looking for something.
01:42:50.860And often that kind of devolves into, well, I really like seeing Marvel movies. And I also really like that Marvel movies are inclusive and diverse. So I'm going to work hard so I can purchase Marvel products so that diversity can continue to be programmed into people.
01:43:08.500That's really, I mean, at the core of their everyday life, there are millions of people living with that. If you, if you want to call that a, uh, an, an ethos, that is, I mean, as sad as it is, that's what it is.
01:43:22.640They're essentially what a degenerate junkie homosexual postmodern writer, William S. Burroughs called a soft machine.
01:43:43.040And what they have is they have to stave off that inevitable self-reflection that comes in the, in the twilight hours, you know, and you can stave that off through, through drugs and entertainment.
01:43:54.940If you're constantly entertained at no point, do you finally have to, you know, sit out on your back porch with a glass of wine or a cigar and really actually engage in introspection about who and what you are and why you're here.
01:44:10.620And that is, that is rooted in tens of thousands of years of, of homo sapien history with men sitting at night trying and looking on the stars, trying to figure out what their place is and why they should, why exactly they should be getting up the next day and fighting for survival or working or trying to build something.
01:44:39.620Because of, if all life is suffering, if all life is combating this, this death, if we have to struggle to live, even like our, our body, it's constantly regenerating itself every moment of every hour of every second that we live against these micro bacteria that are disintegrating it.
01:44:57.180And when we die, that's what happens is those bacteria, they win and they destroy the body and they consume it totally.
01:45:04.740And so, you know, it's written into the very basis, basic biological programming that we have to struggle physically, but also spiritually, right?
01:45:13.700And so we have to have a logos, a purpose, a reason for why we, we eat these bowls of shit every day constantly.
01:45:20.620And that, that logos is ever more important in the modern era where, uh, it just, there's no spiritual reality to anything where we have these, you know, unlimited physical comforts, even for people in the low strata of our society, but no spiritual food, no spiritual nutrition.
01:45:38.120And so, you know, it comes back to this, that you can't, you know, if you're disgruntled, if you don't like this, becoming a more radical materialist is not the solution.
01:45:48.500What the solution is, is to come up with something of spiritual substance that, that motivates you beyond the adversity of the physical world.
01:45:57.620And so if you, if you, if you were one of these, like, you know, IQ, you know, white nationalists, well, what happens if like China completely overtakes us in every way?
01:46:05.700What happens if all of your memes about, you know, gook, insect, you know, mind, uh, subhuman, uh, oriental, you know, sideways vagina to be vulgar.
01:46:15.960What happens like if all of those memes are proven false by an emerging, you know, Chinese technocratic dragon state, which becomes the new world order controlling power and it begins to dominate you.
01:46:29.940You know, it's so, you, you know, uh, everybody would say, oh.
01:46:33.800And that, and that would be a real return to history is, is a group of people somewhere being completely conquered by an arising power out of another place like that.
01:46:44.300And that's mostly the history of Europeans is having to always contend with the occasional rise of a power out of the East that nearly either destroys them and subjugates them.
01:46:57.640Um, and it's a several hundred year long struggle typically in the case of the Muscovites fighting against the golden horde, or in the case of the Asturian Knights fighting for 700 years to kick the warriors out of Spain.
01:47:11.140Or in the case of Charlemagne struggling with every last man he had to try and kick the Avars out of what we would call Hungary now.
01:47:19.700It was, you know, there are these constant problems that Europeans have had to deal with no matter where they are.
01:47:25.500And trying to reorient yourself around, you know, around means and also just around racist liberalism is not going to cut it.
01:47:36.460If you want to rebuild society to be as strong as it once was for Europeans, there's a huge component that you really do need and you can't have, you can't live without.
01:47:47.620And that is, uh, Logos, that is a unifying force that we all slowly come to believe in.
01:47:56.360Right. I think that what you're describing, Hans, on the civilizational level of the existential threat is similar to in those twilight hours of reflection that people should have but are able to escape.
01:48:10.780I think the thought that, that comes that puts us into perspective is, is death and it's, it's death that regardless of, regardless of afterlife or what have you, contemplation of death forces you to seriously examine your actions in the day to day.
01:48:28.480And it seriously forces you to examine what it is that makes the justice of life so important and what you should actually ground it on.
01:48:36.760Because if you are, if you remind yourself, you know, this too shall pass, your existence shall pass this, and you only have one, then you really start to actually consider what it is that your existence should have been about.
01:48:52.020If you are an essentialist, if you believe that you have an essence, then you know that you cannot just ground your, your whole being in this existence because that being should exist before it and after it.
01:49:05.180Exactly. You know, and so it's, unfortunately, a lot, a lot of these like modern bug people, we do not want to acknowledge that they're going to die.
01:49:19.080A lot, I was about to, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, you know, I think maybe, maybe call it like the philosophical term cardinality of death or something like that is, it has no bearing on them, has, has no bearing on them whatsoever.
01:49:35.460These are people that fully believe that they are never going to die.
01:49:39.720I, I, I, I'm surprised you're saying this.
01:49:41.160This is something I've said, I, I, you share my suspicion.
01:49:44.240I've long suspected that the majority of people, at least in America, do not believe that they will die.
01:49:53.900I mean, it sounds irrational, but, but if you think about it, they, they certainly don't live like they're going to die.
01:49:59.460And part of the problem with modernity is hiding the effects of death on who you are as a person and who you're, and what it does to your community.
01:50:06.900And shielding you from, oh, sorry, Hans.
01:50:12.880Shielding you from, from contemplation of it.
01:50:16.020Being up at night with stars over you, contemplating when's my end coming and what is my end going to be?
01:50:22.140And at the end, well, in those last moments, well, I think at least I had a grounded justice in what was, in what was right and what was beyond the material and what was beyond IQ stats.
01:50:34.500Or is it going to only be, yeah, I should have posted one last meme.
01:50:42.560I think David Foster Wallace, for all his faults, correctly identified that aspect of American society relationship between entertainment and death.
01:50:53.240Yeah, and I think that that, what, I think it comes back to the fact that a lot of the, we come all the way back to the beginning of the show, that a lot of the, so quote unquote alt-right, as I despise this term, but whatever, we'll use it.
01:51:22.980So, is motivated by, it's their reactionary.
01:51:26.800They're motivated by anger and by disgruntlement against, like, the vapidity of the modern world, but they're not introspective enough to realize, like, well, why is this the case?
01:51:38.140What happens is that when your movement is one of opposition, like, if you are who you are because, like, you don't like the Jews and, you know, you want white people to exist and, like, you believe that not all races are biologically equal, well, there's no substance to that.
01:51:58.100That's a movement of reaction, of passion.
01:52:01.480I mean, again, it's, there's no vivifying element behind it besides the most base monkey mind desire to react and be angry at things that you know on an instinctual level are negative.
01:52:20.320And so, what happens is when you don't have an explicit and grounded worldview that you can put as a replacement, as a foundation for that anger, well, why do, why am I angry?
01:52:32.660Why is it bad that my race is being destroyed?
01:52:43.340I mean, you can't, you have to make an appeal to justice, to right and wrong, to some sort of transcendental worldview, which is based on philosophy and theology.
01:52:54.440You don't just get to say, because it's convenient.
01:52:57.200That's just, like, the same gay excuse that our elites use.
01:53:01.260And so, if that's, you know, the foundation of your worldview, then it's just, you're the same as our elites.
01:53:06.220You're not going to be able to defeat them because your organizing principle is the same as them.
01:53:10.620And it also makes you very easy to control.
01:53:16.240The grueling divorce for the last, you know, let's say, 570 to 600 years between theology and philosophy has completely diminished what justice actually is and what it used to be in the conception of people's minds.
01:53:35.280Because the, part of the, you know, I sometimes struggle with people saying that they're neo-medievalists or they're neo-feudalists.
01:53:43.960But part of me goes, well, actually, things weren't so bad.
01:53:47.700And if you understand the conception of justice that those people had and that philosophy and theology were not divorced, they were one and the same thing.
01:53:55.660It was, everything was an approach to God.
01:53:58.380Everything was trying to understand what God had created for you and what God was trying to reveal to you.
01:54:09.040If, you know, the fact that we've lost that in order to seek material comfort, in a way, it's a Herculean effort that Europeans took upon themselves to undo their own spiritual structure to seek the greatest material comforts and to try and conquer the stars.
01:54:28.380But unfortunately, you know, despite this Herculean effort, Hercules himself died a miserable death and he didn't learn throughout his life the lessons of the parables that we learn about him now.
01:54:45.940And if Europeans don't want to wind up a cautionary tale for the Chinese or for the East Asians, they need to understand that they are writing their own death parable, their own tragedy.
01:55:18.580And what I was saying is that it makes people easy to control.
01:55:22.040And I was having a debate with some people.
01:55:23.740I think one thing that people in that sphere would benefit from understanding, and this comes back to what we were saying earlier about the exoteric and the esoteric with respect to what it is the elites actually believe,
01:55:36.420is, yeah, sure, some of the lower tier elites are high on their own supply, so to speak, and they actually believe in this brave new world.
01:55:45.620But people, these populations that are coming into Europe, this is a weaponized process.
01:56:07.220You're chasing the red blanket, not the matador at this point.
01:56:11.500And it's going, and it's seriously, it's seriously going to diminish, I think, a lot of the conceptions of what people think the elites actually believe.
01:56:22.900And the shocking reality, to me, as it sort of discovers, the elites don't necessarily believe in anything, which is all the more sort of shocking.
01:56:34.360I'm sure that there are plenty of deviant sex cults and deviant ball worshippers that are still mad that Rome crushed Carthage over 2,000 years ago.
01:56:43.720Well, I'm sure that those people actually exist.
01:56:48.000But I'm also sure that there are plenty of them who do not believe in anything and are only interested in maintaining their own power structures.
01:56:59.120You can, it's easy, it can be done to boil down a lot of what people do to just wanting to maintain their power structure.
01:57:06.240Well, the purpose in those, like, elite mystery cults, the ultimate end is power.
01:57:14.120It's worship of themselves as the final end.
01:57:18.100And the sort of ritualistic defilement of what was previously sacred is, I mean, it's, do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
01:57:27.440It's the purpose is to free themselves from any form of natural law.
01:57:33.060Right. And there are those deviant elites and sort of false aristocrats, I would call them, you know, the cultural elites, not necessarily the moneyed elite, that truly hate natural law and want to diminish it and destroy it at whatever means.
01:57:49.840You know, I don't think that all of the elites and certainly many of the ones who actually exert real financial and capital power care that much about, you know, whether or not natural law should be destroyed out of some ideological or metaphysical commitment to destroying it.
01:58:05.680But they do empower people to be, you know, those cultured elites to be deviants, those false aristocrats to take out their, their anger on natural law and the practicers of it in order to fulfill their, what I talked about earlier, their own societal fission process, which is to break down the bonds between people to attain growth.
01:58:28.720And so that's the entirety of the last, particularly the last 50 years in the United States has been a slow, slow fission process to break down the old bonds of America to achieve massive levels of economic growth that were thought to be impossible.
01:58:46.000And even scaled to previous levels of economic growth throughout history are remarkable in how quickly wealth has been created and acquired.
01:58:57.300The end design was really, it's cynical.
01:59:00.480You know, I wish it was entirely just a giant cult of devil worshipers, because then you could point your finger and say, that's what they believe.
01:59:10.540You know, it's so much more ambiguous, and it's so much more mystifying what exactly these people want, because they're not acting according to any real diabolical will.
01:59:25.220I think that you touched on a critical point.
01:59:27.100And what I would say is that you're entirely correct, although I would make one distinction, is that the very nature of the diabolic is anti-logos.
01:59:37.500And so we should not expect a causal philosophical worldview from those who hate logos.
01:59:43.020We should expect chaos and things not to make any sense and for things to be stupid and crazy and to be based mostly on, like, inertia than on, like, any sort of rational framework.
01:59:56.280And so that's precisely what happens, is that, you know, the insane man is not the man who has no logic.
02:00:02.040It's the man who only has logic with no reason to govern that process.
02:00:05.900It's like the rogue AI, you know, Terminator Skynet, right, that just runs off into the distance, acting on some sort of pragmatic software.
02:00:16.360It doesn't have, like, I mean, it's evil, it's wicked, but it's not, like, a lot of the times it's not because it's like, oh, I'm going to worship the AI devil, right?
02:00:25.680Although I think that that is kind of where it starts, that ideological break starts at that first rebellion, but it becomes, like, calcified, and the inertia continues because people are making a lot of money and getting their passions satisfied, and they want to maintain their positions in power.
02:01:13.420And if you're able to break people down into a, just a series of stimulated behaviors from external and internal stimuli, and you completely neglect the internal stimuli and say they don't actually matter, or they're irrational, so they don't matter.
02:01:29.220And then, and then you tell them this, the worst thing is that people are told this, it's not that this is just how they're analyzed, they are told that this is what they are, and that they're being analyzed through this methodology that completely shatters any idea of an internal ontology to what people are.
02:01:47.780And once you've done that, it's very, very easy to break that logos, and you have, and it seems ordered, a lot of the modern world seems to order to people, and people kind of long for the days of step nomads coming in and burning down your village.
02:02:03.340But that was part of a natural cycle that civilization had been undergoing for tens of thousands of years.
02:02:09.920Now the, these weird nomads from south of the border are let in and, and, you know, essentially given help and instructions in how to displace the current occupants of a certain place.
02:02:23.380There, you know, and there's no longer, uh, what's the Heideggerian word like, or Heideggerian term for dwelling, like a friend or something to that effect.
02:02:35.500There's no longer any path towards that, to that dwelling, as he would call it.
02:02:41.140Yeah, that's the difference between the organic and the mechanical, right?
02:02:45.200Right, right. And the mechanical has slowly become chaotic, and it's because of what it's wrought.
02:02:51.580And, and I'm not an anti-mechanical person. I am a huge believer in classical mechanics, and, and, uh, to an extent, um, I, I love being a mechanistic guy.
02:03:03.020I have a garage full of power tools that I, that I love using for various purposes, but in the same vein, it, the damage that they've wrought on society, their existence, hasn't been contended with.
02:03:17.320And you can find a way to have a spiritual life and have a real ontology about who you are and have power tools, but no one in our elite want you to have even the idea that that is possible, that you can reason your way into determining how you can live with God and how you can have power tools at the same time.
02:03:41.060That's it, exactly. That's it, exactly. And this is the thing that I think is lost by the false dialectic between, like, the modernists and religious traditionalists, is that there's a lot of failure in even, you know, capital R reactionary circles to account for the existence and the change that technology puts upon social organization.
02:04:01.000Right. It's the Pandora's. We don't get to decide whether we deal with mass communication or not. So we, you know, we don't get to make that choice. We don't get to decide whether we deal with the machine gun or the nuclear submarine based missile or not. That's a reality that we have to deal with, even if it's titanic force is extremely inconvenient. And so we can't just, you know, go back to like, we were doing your episode on, um, the first chancellor of West Germany, Adenauer, right?
02:04:57.740Because they were so innovative and so pioneering in their, um, use of these technologies. And so like Tsar Nicholas II, he wanted to like set limits to, you know, the number of machine guns and heavy artillery pieces that European armies could have because he understood this, but it didn't matter. It didn't matter.
02:05:17.820And that, and that was a callback to days in Europe when weapons innovations were typically met with scorn even by national kings. And sometimes weapons innovators were put to death and their inventions completely erased before an arms race was started.
02:05:33.480There was an idea that an organic form of warfare is terrible as warfare was between the European kingdoms in the medieval era is terrible.
02:05:43.500It wasn't happened that it existed. It was organic. And it's natural that this does happen between groups of men.
02:05:49.140And unfortunately, you know, the Adenauer reactionary tradition is something that I, I was somewhat aware of it before. And there are traditions similar to it that I try and imbue into who I am as a, as an American, as a Catholic, and as a person who works in effectively in industry, in technology.
02:06:08.480There are things I have to contend with. And the idea that you can't find any contention and that you can't come to a compromise and you can't rebuild society, even with all these things in existence or develop them and it be a just society, I think is false.
02:06:26.800Yes, you can have industry, but you need to be able to have an acknowledgement of what it's going to do. If you can't acknowledge what it's going to do to you as a person and do your society, then you can't have it.
02:06:40.620But because the very fact that we're having this conversation is evident to me that by the grace of God, we are able to find a way and we will be able to find a way.
02:06:50.460But it's going to take, or it's going to involve us having to take back the reins because we're the only ones interested in figuring this out.
02:07:00.280Well, and it's no coincidence that the early modernist artists that I mentioned earlier were interested in, in the new ideas, the new political ideas of the 20th century and fascism and national socialism even.
02:07:13.640And it was because they were looking to be able to go forward without abandoning the past, without severing that link to tradition.
02:07:23.400There could, in fact, be a sense. You see it in futurism, people like Lewis and Pound.
02:07:30.580And that was a possibility, but like so many possibilities, so many of the slightly sunnier possibilities of the early 20th century, they were destroyed with the European Holocaust.
02:07:44.960To me, you know, you can look at Junger as a good example of someone who embraced what had come, but also wanted to have a clear chain of being and a clear chain of life to the past, particularly rooted in Germany, all the way to the present of his time and into the future.
02:08:03.360A full acknowledgement of the breath of time as a German dealing with the rise of industry, because I think he understood from a biological point of view, from a philosophical point of view, that his people were naturally gifted to rule in industry and rule in the industrial arts.
02:08:22.420And Americans have always been gifted in that realm, too.
02:08:26.380And Henry Ford was a great example of a man who contended with these huge works in this huge industrial society that he sought to create.
02:08:36.660But Henry Ford was never a man who wanted to displace marriage or wanted to displace social cohesion.
02:08:43.760This is a guy who essentially bulliesided immigrants into learning English and getting rid of their accents.
02:08:48.400Everyone was going to conform and everyone was going to pitch into society and be a good citizen and be a good man if they wanted to be a part of his industry.
02:09:00.900And Junger wrote one of the first science fiction novels, Glass Bees.
02:09:07.900Okay, so why don't we pivot towards justice because we're coming up to an hour here.
02:09:12.440So just I want to make sure that we cover this in depth before we hit the Kali Yuga news.
02:09:19.940So gentlemen, this was a subject that you had raised to me, Nick, that you wanted to pay particular attention to.
02:09:27.060And I think that you, like I, because of your research into pedophilia and those kind of organized syndicates, has kind of impelled you towards radicalism.
02:09:40.760I know that for me, like investigate, I did an episode of Pizzagate and it was that episode that really made me like think, okay, we can't, we cannot stop.
02:09:49.280We have to fight until we die because if we don't, this doesn't stop unless we win and kill all our enemies.
02:10:01.580Well, I recently did on my show an episode on elite pedophile networks and their role in how it is the elite exert control on their own.
02:10:12.960And to a certain extent, I didn't really get into in the episode, but I, one thing that I kind of wonder about from a philosophical and moral perspective is what exactly it says about us, what our responsibility in relation to that depth of evil is.
02:10:32.420How we should think about it and how we should act in relation to it.
02:10:35.860Exactly. So, and this is the question is that these pedophilia and these, the depth of this degenerate, these degenerate illnesses, this corruption that has seized our society is something that for anybody who is not totally twisted, totally deformed and deranged by the modern world, you know, evokes still murderous rage.
02:10:57.000And rightly so, you know, pedophilia is one of the crimes that you can still get even like liberals to support capital punishment for because it's so unnatural from a physical, spiritual level that it just, we instinctively with all of our might cry out against it, right?
02:11:17.360Yet, at the same time, you have these pedophilic trends. I mean, child transsexualism. I was just reading an article the other day about a child who was taken from their parents or removed from their parents custody because they refused to administer hormone, hormone, hormone treatments.
02:11:37.360Right. And it's going in that direction because of this, if this foundational sense of justice can be debased, then there's no wickedness that cannot be tolerated, right?
02:11:47.060I mean, and this is like the full, you know, Canaanite society where child sacrifice and child abuse are just integrated into the firmament of the culture. All that's left is for a cleansing fire.
02:11:56.140Yeah, they've succeeded in sexualizing children. They've succeeded in normalizing homosexuality. And they've succeeded in sort of imbuing children with the discretion and autonomy to make that sort of choice, you know, choice.
02:12:13.340They've given children an immense amount of agency, which is what's so disturbing to me. I mentioned this to my significant other the other night. I was like, look, I've never in my life thought that you should listen to this 17-year-old version of me, especially when I was 17.
02:12:31.520And you have 17-year-old being told point blank, let's interview you on national news to get your cutting opinion on gun policy and how financial institutions in the United States should enact a de-investment strategy towards gun manufacturers.
02:12:52.200Going to a child with that children who are easily impressionable and turning them into pseudo adults is definitely part of the sexualization agenda because then if you turn children into adults, children are that much more susceptible to becoming just good elements of a neoliberal machine.
02:13:14.760And that is overly sexualized beings that are easily bullied and pushed around, as E. Michael Jones would say. And if you get them while they're young, if you can get to them and you can imbue them with this when they're younger, they're less likely to put up a fight later or to have any sort of reaction later in life. You're only rebellious in your youth. You're not rebellious when you're older.
02:13:38.940Right. And I think that's at the core of it. It's the denaturing, the destruction of the soul in infancy is precisely what they're going for. And this is one of the reasons why when we practice infant baptism, well, our enemies want to kill our children's souls when they're infants.
02:13:58.520You know, and like if you look into trauma-based mind control, the best time to do that in order to create a pliable, compliant individual for your own purposes is in childhood. And that's why there is such an integral component of ritualistic child abuse in trauma-based mind control, admittedly.
02:14:21.580Right. And so, and what is happening is, I think it's MKUltra's rule was really more about mass mind control is this is applied on a mass scale through mass propaganda conditioning. And if you can inflict this trauma on children through soft power, you don't have to physically rape them. If you could spiritually rape them, then there's no distinction.
02:14:39.560Right. And just use a simple example of the Holocaust propaganda. Some of the earliest, some of the first times that children see corpses are the corpses of Jews.
02:14:52.580Yeah, I'm not, I'm not someone that wants to shy children away from the reality of, of death and life. But it's sort of shocking that you parade your children around museums for particular people dying and then tell them, well, you should feel guilty about this, by the way.
02:15:16.720Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's, it's like, that's all part of this insane mentality. You parade them around your, their exposure to violence and death is in this context. And then in the same breath, you will say that all, you know, all self-defense is wrong. Right. Unless it's done by the state authorities. Right. Right. And so that's, that's, you can't even, if you're a kid now, you can't even, if someone bullies you at lunch, you can't even punch them in the face. You're suspended for five days.
02:15:42.700You can't, there's, there's, there's, you know, in one way they're imbuing kids as a lot of false agency, but then they strip basic agency from them. Self-defense, good, wholesome upbringing, good food. Those things are completely stripped from them or they are seriously discouraged.
02:16:01.700Yep. But the, you know, the choice to go under, undergo gender reassignment surgery at 12 years old, go right ahead. There, there's no opposition to that.
02:16:14.640The only, the only time their, their, their will and their agency is respected is when they consent to be the object of, of some, someone's pleasure.
02:16:25.140Indeed. I mean, and this, this is only going to get more intense. This brings us back to our question. Why is it right to oppose this? I mean, like if you have a worldview that says that, you know, it's basically, it's just Darwinistic and it's based on, you know, logical self-preservation of yourself and your immediate biological king group for the purposes of, you know, reproductive success and material comfort.
02:16:49.360Um, and you, you know, any, any, any modicum of discipline or amelioration of, um, satisfaction of the base passions comes because you want to, you know, improve your long-term chances of survival and success.
02:17:01.360Well, why, like if you could demonstrate scientifically that, um, organized child trauma, uh, child abuse and trauma-based mind control, uh, uh, was correct. Why wouldn't you engage in that?
02:17:12.580And I think that you could like, like you see guys like actually openly arguing for this, for their enemies, you know, they'll say things like, oh, you know, all miscegenation is wrong, except when you're raping the women and children of like non-whites, this kind of stuff.
02:17:25.460Um, and so people openly argue, I mean, the people openly, it's insane. I mean, it's just, uh, they openly make these statements. You know, I often lambasted.
02:17:34.960It's like, if you, if you're not willing to personally drop white phosphorus, uh, from B-52s on the African continent or bayonet pregnant, uh, nevruses, then you're a cuck, right? You know, you're not really a racial nationalist, right?
02:17:47.040I mean, it's, it's a good question. That's a, I've asked this to people. People should try it. It's an interesting experiment. Ask normie people, well, why is it that it's wrong to rape children? Well, specifically why?
02:18:00.380Right. And it's shock because oftentimes they'll get really mad at you because they don't have an answer and you call them out on the, on the core premise of the worldview. Um, and I, for me.
02:18:11.940And in the, well, in the Western tradition, it's, it's essentially part of it's rooted in the Imago Dei and the, and particularly the idea that you're going to pursue those that are youthful and cannot defend themselves.
02:18:26.920Justice in, in the good or typical, or I think in a very traditional, very old sense built on the idea of defending those that cannot defend themselves because we are imbued with a certain image of God that makes us as humans, particularly worthy of defending one another.
02:18:51.060Exactly. And that's where, I mean, that is the basic Christian doctrine where, where, you know, dignity comes from the idea that all men are descended from Adam and bear the image and likeness of God.
02:19:03.900I mean, that's like the whole concept of, of, of basic rights, which are made up, obviously of the human rights is a perversion is like a secular heresy of the idea of basic human dignity, you know, that you have to be restricted in your actions, even towards the most vile of pagans, that there are certain things that you, uh, you cannot do to them.
02:19:23.040And I mean, you use pagan in the sense of like, you know, child sacrificing Amalekites who have hold to no codes of honor and have no standards of warfare. Um, that kind of thing.
02:19:34.760Right. Because you uphold in doing so you uphold a higher principle. And that's, that's the problem with, I mean, as, as heinous as it is to abuse children, what, what spooks me the most in studying these things is not just these, the individual acts of abuse, but the way in which these individual acts are protected by a system and by the exact institutions that are supposed to administer justice.
02:20:04.760Right. And that's what it comes down to. So why is this important? Well, because if you're going to make the claim, uh, that your ideas are right, that you're right, that your people have a right to exist, you're making an appeal towards justice. So if you don't have a philosophy, a theology, a worldview that supports, um, like even in any basic way, this appeal, then you're just full of shit. Okay. I mean, there's no other way to say it. You can't, you know, you, you are no better than our enemies.
02:20:31.040Uh, and so like the, the, the legitimating factor for the state authorities, why are they allowed to use violence? Why are they allowed to have the power of taxation, coercive force? Because they're supposed to use these powers to administer justice. That's the whole purpose. And so if they, how is it, why does a state become illegitimate? Because they, they, a, either failed to do this or B, in our case, they use these powers for the inverse, for tyranny, for injustice.
02:20:57.920Right. Right. And they, they, the state, the system punishes no one as harshly as they punish those who attempt to do so, who attempt to administer justice. Those are the people who will always receive the harshest punishment from the system.
02:21:14.920A good example of this recently was, uh, the, the, the Larry Nassar, Larry Nassar, the, the, the Olympics, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The, he was a, um, uh, like a physical therapist or kinesiologist for the U S Olympic committee, particularly, uh, he had a lot of time with, uh, the young girls of the U S women's gymnast team.
02:21:38.700Um, and he molested well over a hundred women over the course of several years, curiously, despite numerous tips of the FBI was never arrested or never even probed until like late 2015.
02:21:52.060But beyond that, there was an incident, uh, like a month or two ago where, uh, now that he's been tried and he's in the process of being convicted and will likely serve out multiple life sentences in a comfy maximum security jail, where I'm sure that he'll never be allowed in general population.
02:22:08.920A father asked the judge, uh, point blank, give me five minutes with this man. Now this father had three of his daughters, uh, molested by this, this individual, this, uh, interestingly, a Semite from the, uh, from the near East.
02:22:29.740And, um, the judge told him, you know, I can't do that. And he said, just give me one minute.
02:22:35.480And she, uh, she was pleading with him, literally shaking, pleading with him.
02:22:39.680And I can't do that, sir. I can't, I, you know, I can't do that.
02:22:43.460And she didn't want to say, I'm going to hold you in contend because she would look like a, you know, overly zealous civic bitch, but you could tell it's what she wanted to do to try and calm him down.
02:22:55.260But the man, uh, he leaped over the barrier and, uh, essentially attempted to tackle Nassar.
02:23:01.300And he was immediately pummeled by the bailiff, by several, by several sheriff's deputies and handcuffed and had a boot on his face for trying to enact justice on a man who molested three of his daughters with impunity.
02:23:16.720Exactly. And let me, let me ask you a question. When those cops, those cops do not have to stop him.
02:23:22.640They could have easily not done anything. What principle were they upholding when they chose to do that?
02:23:28.040Right. They were, they were upholding the, the, the civic American virtue of everyone deserves a fair trial and every convicted prisoner deserves no harm.
02:23:42.680The reality is that this is, this is not rooted in, I am actually surprisingly, I am for everyone being given a fair trial and having their say, but the man was, had already been convicted at this point.
02:23:56.280The man had already been found guilty. The evidence was overwhelming a hundred, you know, hundreds of witness testimonies, years of digital evidence against this man.
02:24:05.120And he, his fate had been sealed. And he, his fate had been sealed. And yet the natural law of allowing the father of those victimized to enact punishment on a man.
02:24:16.700And that he shared society with that being undone and that not being allowed to occur was the true betrayal of, of justice, just, you know, pot, human positivist law, which Americans, American common law and the American federal code and things like that.
02:24:36.400Those are, you know, those are, you know, are in lip speak rooted in natural law. It's, it's littered throughout our, our founding documents. It's littered throughout the writings of our, many of our founding fathers and our early, uh, early Supreme court justices.
02:24:50.720But I think a lot of it was lip service then. And it's, it's a cruel, perverse lip service now, because now it's so obviously, so blatantly not true that positivist law should serve the natural law, not the other way around.
02:25:05.480And American positivist law is not based on justice anymore. It is based on enacting a strict code. It, and it's certainly not a traditional common law. It is becoming modern French civic code in a lot of ways in slowly instructing you how to carry your day to day life.
02:25:24.320And judges are not there to make actual judgments. They're there to be officiators of a, uh, of an incomprehensible, overly long code that no longer feels organic to anyone.
02:25:38.920And it serves then as a post factor rationalization for the moral choice that those cops made. Those cops made a moral choice.
02:25:47.280Yeah. That bailiff easily could have done nothing or could have been a little extra slow getting over there.
02:25:53.680Because the only thing preventing that father from getting at, at the pet, at the, you know, the Semitic pedophile was like a middling public attorney.
02:26:02.160And I think that if, if a six foot three electricians worker was coming towards you and your client, you probably wouldn't put up too much of a fight.
02:26:10.060Cause that guy was probably about ready to knock out the attorney and then tear off the head of this, you know, attempted pedophile or I'm sorry, convicted pedophile.
02:26:18.240Yeah. And so we did an episode on the lynching of Leo Frank. And in that case, the, uh, the prison, the wardens, the people at the prison, when they eventually busted Leo Frank out to lynch him and give him what he deserves, uh, they, they were more than happy to turn him over, especially cause they were given a nice pretext for, you know, of, of, of a death squad of armed, of armed citizens.
02:26:44.200Who were ready to, ready to shoot if necessary.
02:26:46.540And I want to focus in on a, I want to hone in on one thing here. And this is that the importance of like the bourgeois cultural attitude that supports this whole system.
02:26:55.580And this is what, what, um, one of the few things in my life that truly, truly, truly draws up, uh, enmity from, from my heart is this, I, this sneering saccharine worship of the inertia of the, uh, public order by all strata of society, including those who label themselves to be traditionalist.
02:27:17.900Where they, they, they believe that there is some sort of inherent moral authority or support behind the system at large.
02:27:25.960I mean, it's this, this conceit is the most unforgivable. It's unforgivable for people who should know better.
02:27:32.740And it's a default to this supposed decorum, to this supposed politeness that allows them to, to cover for their, for their own moral failings, their own failure to act where, where it needs to be done.
02:27:45.160And, and I know, I mean, like, I don't want to get a whole thing on Charles Manson and we, we will be actually doing a show on Charles Manson at some point.
02:27:53.560But the thing that is interesting to me about Charles Manson, what, what makes him fascinating is he forced the system.
02:28:01.240He was by no means a virtuous man himself, obviously, but he forced the system to live to its own moral assumptions, to, to attempt to try to condemn him on moral grounds.
02:28:11.900And he never failed to point out that the people who are coming after him, the people who are persecuting him, their hands are by no means clean.
02:28:19.860That's exactly correct. That's exactly correct. And so, yeah, and this is what it comes back to is that, I mean, if you want to have any sort of pretense of having righteousness or justice or law on your side,
02:28:36.140Well, number one, you need to realize that if you make any claims towards law, you judge yourself, first of all, that sword is double-edged.
02:28:44.340So it cuts both ways. And two, you have to make some sort of appeal to a transcendental philosophical reality, because justice is the administration of the good.
02:28:55.140It's the restoration of a peaceable relationship within the civic society through the use of punishment, essentially a force to restore the good.
02:29:04.360Right. One of my favorite quotes of all time, and this is to, I guess, counteract any suspicions that what we believe in here might be barbaric or might be uncivilized.
02:29:17.720One of my favorite quotes comes from G.K. Chesterton, a man of true high civilization, a good-natured Christian Anglo who never did anything wrong to anyone, really,
02:29:29.860who once wrote in a Cleveland Press interview in 1921,
02:29:34.460The men whom the people ought to choose to represent them are too busy to take the jobs, but the politician is waiting for it.
02:29:41.540He's the pestilence of modern times. What we should try to do is make politics as local as possible, keep the politicians near enough to kick them.
02:29:50.980The villagers who met under the village tree could also hang their politicians to the tree.
02:29:56.140It's terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today.
02:29:59.300In order to – and this was a man whose entire life was devoted to discerning what the transcendental good was and what the transcendental was,
02:30:10.160what God was to himself and certainly to the English people.
02:30:14.520But he, too, understood that natural law had its place in natural, organic societies.
02:30:19.480And it appeals to the public order, keep calm and carry on, were completely antithetical to English tradition and certainly antithetical to the natural law.
02:30:34.480Yes. And I want to bring this back full circle, where I think that one of the biggest problems that we run into is that people who ostensibly have intellectual possession of the truth do not implement it.
02:30:47.660And they ignore many of these things based on literally just inherited cultural grounds.
02:30:52.780And so, I mean, I particularly see this in like religious traditionalists where it's like it is the coarsest and grossest absurdity to run into like a rad trad Catholic or Orthodox dude who supports the legitimacy of the American state or democracy or who believes in any sort of secularism and who doesn't – who like opposes the death penalty in America.
02:31:13.980Right. Right. For anything but like pragmatic reasons.
02:31:20.380It's ironic because I oppose the death penalty in America, but for the reasons that we're talking about here, that the people administering that are the people who should be most subjected to it.
02:31:32.120And so, it's these people are actually the ones who bear – unfortunately, like it's cruel because like we know these people in our lives, but these are the ones who bear responsibility because these are the people who should be on the vanguard of the attack against this reality.
02:31:47.760But these people have succumbed to the weakness of just, no, just go to your prayer corner.
02:31:56.300That's how you're going to fix the problems of America.
02:31:57.980And it's this lack of willingness to aggressively confront evil and viciously tear it asunder when it's manifested in our society that has enabled this degeneration, this go-along-to-get-along attitude where as long as we've got our little corner where we're allowed to be left in peace and do our church services and we can get our souls to heaven,
02:32:18.560And this is what has facilitated the wholesale, civilizational and structural collapse of our people and society and religion and morals and justice.
02:32:29.460And no, it doesn't – the great wickedness is that there are very few people in contemporary Western society who are willing to stand up in the name of that justice and hold the sword of the gospel in their hands and just tell people the truth.
02:32:48.560And this is the – this is like the terminal that it's the fault of these people because they are the ones who should have been speaking the truth most loudly.
02:32:58.420You know, and God – and when you see guys like Charles Coughlin who were doing this, who were silenced by their own hierarchy, by their own institutions, when they tried to stand up for the truth, for basic social justice, you know, this is where it's like Psalm 85.
02:33:13.920It was thee, O man, like mine of me, I walked in – shared in my repasts, you walked in the house of the Lord with me, yet you are a traitor.
02:33:22.660May death come upon such ones, may them go down into Hades alive.
02:33:26.120And so it's – I mean, man, that's the terminal.
02:33:33.420And so really the only solution to these problems is, you know, decentralized guerrilla spiritual resistance, is to try and live this life in yourself as much as you can, you know, and accepting the reality that, you know, the application of moral scrupulosity to yourself and a society will produce eternal dissatisfaction because of how corrupt and – how corrupt we are.
02:33:55.520But you have to struggle anyway and do whatever you can, and then ultimately to your family, to your church, to your society.
02:34:03.020And that that's – I mean, you have – that's a 200 – that's a 300-year struggle.
02:34:07.500So that's the mindset that you have to have.
02:34:10.620Like, you know, the Taliban have, like, a lot of really great praxis quotes, and one of them is that, you know, our enemies have all of the watches, but we have all the time.
02:34:21.680And that we fight not for ourselves, nor for our sons, nor our grandchildren, but for their grandchildren.
02:34:27.140That has to essentially be the mindset.
02:34:28.880And so, I mean, without this, like, fanatic commitment to that future eschatological victory, to that reality, I mean, there can be no hope of salvation.
02:34:40.480And I would say especially without an appeal and a humiliation of ourselves before the divine reality and an appeal to the grace of the personal God to help us, there can be no victory and there can be no justice.
02:34:57.720So, gentlemen, we've come to the end of our – we're going to hit a few news stories in Caliuga News, but we've come to the end of, I think, the main segment of the meat and potatoes, so to speak, of the podcast.
02:35:08.000Is there anything else you guys want to hit on right before we go into the news?
02:35:12.800I, too, lament how few politicians are hanging today.
02:35:26.300I mean that in a sense people need to reflect on death and on violence and on its place in society in a very serious way because you'll get back to what's important.
02:35:42.080Americanism, particularly out west, was built on the philosophy of the rope.
02:35:44.920If you did one bad thing in a town, like you punched some girl in a bar or saloon, boy, it was ending in a newsman's platter for you like really soon thereafter.
02:36:05.720So, on that bright and cheery note, let's transition into Kali Yuga News.
02:36:11.620So, gentlemen, this is your first time on the show.
02:36:14.200I don't know if both of you boys have the show notes up before me, but usually what I do is I allow my guests to pick one of the news stories that we have set out here and kind of, you know, present it, read the headline and some of the bulk of the story, and then we'll discuss it.
02:36:27.900So, do any of you gentlemen see anything that catches your eye, or would you like to volunteer to do first?
02:36:33.320No, let's start with the first one here.
02:36:36.420We have, this is from the Daily Stormer.
02:37:12.600So, apparently, the state prosecutor in the French city of Orleans is investigating possible incitement to racial hatred.
02:37:20.300Following Twitter attacks on a mixed-race girl chosen to play Joan of Ark in upcoming city celebrations.
02:37:29.400See, when I first saw this, I guess I thought it was going to be about the, there was a film that's being made, and I believe Joan of Ark is a Negress.
02:37:48.780That is, appears to be what's going on.
02:37:51.240So, long story short, there's this festival where they, you know, the maid of Orleans, Joan of Ark, one of my favorite figures of French history.
02:38:01.840You know, so they have her, somebody kind of dress up, a young girl dress up in armor and ride into town on a horse, on a white horse to honor her.
02:38:08.080And they picked, you know, some half Polish, half, you know, Negro to do so.
02:38:12.460It's interesting that she was half Polish.
02:38:16.880That's some kind of, I don't know, underhanded slight at the current, the current position that Poland has towards, I suppose, the rest of the EU.
02:38:32.940Let's see when I, I mean, we can go into commentary, but I think, I think it's basically all here.
02:38:37.280I mean, there's a great quote, the basic proof that the Jews are unhinged is in how hard they're riding this replacement thing, because it isn't just this Joan of Ark being a nigger.
02:38:52.100There's an institutional policy spanning both the public and private sector that no public figure is allowed to be white in a white country.
02:38:59.320I mean, it is sort of becoming insane.
02:39:04.040I think I've said this in the internal myth chat the other day, like it only took 70 years for Jews to go from nearly being wiped out because of just creating Weimar Germany to trying to turn the whole planet into Weimar Earth.
02:39:18.700It is, it is, it is kind of fascinating how unhinged they are and how, how much they often don't understand.
02:39:26.500There are, there are some that I think like the Rebbe and some of these other Jews that have come clean and have, you know, said, look, there are, there is a severe lack of introspection in this community.
02:39:37.580They just, they do not ever consider that they are writing their own tragedy.
02:39:42.100Well, I, I agree that they're unhinged, but we should ask what the purpose of this is.
02:39:48.900I, I think it has a purpose and it's not just unhinged fanaticism.
02:39:54.600I, I believe, I, I cannot prove this, but my suspicion is that the purpose of this stuff is less, for instance, miscegenation propaganda or trying to get people to have, I don't know, fond feelings towards the colored races or something.
02:40:11.360I, I, I think, ultimately has more to do with demoralization propaganda.
02:40:16.600Yeah, because it's to undermine the wide breadth of French history.
02:40:22.360I mean, Joan of Arc, Joan of Arc is, is a, uh, is one of the guiding lights of the French character.
02:40:31.960And it was essentially a Catholic, a French Catholic radical who kicked out the English for, for God and for her, for King and for her country of France.
02:40:43.680Well, it's a perfect opportunity for people to go back if you haven't seen it, uh, already to watch Carl Theodore Dreyer's Passion of Joan of Arc.
02:40:54.280But I, I would say, you know, they're trying to, they're trying to obviously swamp white countries.
02:41:02.580We all know this, but I think people, because people live primarily through media and entertainment, if you can take that over first and really shove it down people's throats,
02:41:12.980then they're more likely to come to the conclusion that this is something that has, has already happened, that it's completely inevitable and it's irreversible and that you should just give up, go on.
02:41:23.280I, I, that's my view on the purpose of this stuff.
02:41:25.720Right. I mean, I think that it, it also, it comes back to the whole, um, forgetfulness, um, the church fathers talk about like the, like the demonic, the diabolical forgetfulness where, I mean, these are extremely, these rituals, these secular rituals are extremely powerful symbols of the manifestation of the natural, national soul of a country.
02:41:44.740Right. And so it's essentially like blasphemy, um, is what it is as a form of, of national blasphemy.
02:41:50.360You know, you are desecrating and defiling that, which is nationally sacred, this icon, the symbol of, you know, the purity of like the French, you know, version of warrior spirit, right.
02:42:02.640Um, you know, the synthesis, the apotheosis of that, like Frankish crusading, like medieval Latin, you know, spirit, the combination of, of perfect purity and chastity and dedication to neighbor and to God.
02:42:14.540With the, the, the militant desire to fight your enemies.
02:42:18.220Um, and it's, you know, kind of just replacing this with the most easy virtue signaling, uh, possible, the, the, the grossest decadent bourgeois liberal, uh, morality.
02:42:30.120And speaking of that, I would also add that I believe that there has been a McDonald's on the site of Joan of Arc's, uh, execution for quite some time now.
02:42:41.420I think it's, I think they have, I have not been there, but I, I believe it had to be disguised as a library in order to be approved, but it is there nonetheless.
02:43:34.640Zekesve Hervar is, uh, apparently the EU jury of the European Capital of Culture contest said that one of the participating towns is, quote, too white and there are not enough migrants, unquote.
02:43:47.400Uh, Hungarian news website, 888.hu reports, with only seven semifinalists left, the Hungarian town of Zekesve Hervar made a promotional film for the jury.
02:44:01.020The film shows the town's most beautiful places, a happy couple, and some kids playing.
02:44:05.240But the EU jury rejected the submission of the town's debut film.
02:44:11.220There are too many happy white people in crosses.
02:44:21.400The mayor of the Hungarian town, Dr. Andras Czerpakovich, uh, gave a press conference about the decision of the jury on Wednesday.
02:44:32.200He said that, in fact, no expert hearing was conducted, but the decision was based, was solely based on daily political issues and accusations were directed at Zekesve Hervar and the delegation.
02:44:45.200The mayor also recalled the criticisms made by the film committee about Zekesve Hervar.
02:44:51.020They left the poor and the migrants out of the film, but at the same time, there were too many crosses, churches, and what was even worse, the attitude of the city, because they regarded this as a value.
02:44:59.980The jury decided, after all, to recommend the entries of Georg, Debrecen, and Vejprem as finalists for the European Capital of Culture.
02:45:10.260I, uh, I have been meaning to go to Hungary for a long time, and I was planning to do it in, uh, in the next year or two, potentially.
02:45:19.060And, uh, it is, I, I have family who have been there, and I have friends who have been there.
02:45:25.120It is apparently an immensely beautiful country, and the Hungarians are an immensely interesting people.
02:45:33.300I have a whole, I own at least one book in print and a few others.
02:45:37.880There's the deal with the history of the Hungarians and the history of, uh, what the Romans would have called, you know, Pannonia, as it's been known for a long time.
02:45:46.300The Pannonian Plains and the, and the Corpathian Basin.
02:45:49.760Uh, I would, I, I'm, like, deeply saddened that, uh, for, that they're not being recognized.
02:46:01.860There are too many happy white people and crosses.
02:46:05.900Yeah, I mean, it's like a Soviet complaint.
02:46:09.820Like, they need, they have to be, there have to be less crosses, and happy people are not struggling for the purity of the, the glorious social revolution.
02:46:30.440I feel like someone from the Daily Stormer infiltrated the EU jury and gave this excuse, there are too many happy white people and crosses.
02:46:42.220We are, since you mentioned it, Hans, we are trying to, some of the, Hans and I, and maybe one of the other guys from our show might be, uh, trying to take a class trip to Eastern Europe at some point.
02:46:51.580So, if you have any, if you have any listeners, Florian, that, uh, are in Eastern Europe, then.
02:47:20.080When you get to, like, the peak fluorescence, like, you have the full spectrum dominance, and, like, you've got that vice grip on all levels of society, you can just be open, and you can just say, no, yeah.
02:47:29.060I mean, um, these people are not genocided and disfigured and corrupted enough for us to hold them up as an example to the rest of the world as the paragon of Europe's internal values, because that's who we are.
02:47:39.980Uh, we're a corrupted, mongrelized, disappointed race.
02:47:45.140And back to demoralization propaganda, that's one of the main purposes of revelation of the method, because it essentially spooks people who have eyes to see, because they see this immense force being mobilized in service, in service of the power, and because they can, because the power is flaunting it in an arrogant way, it has a chilling, demoralizing effect,
02:48:06.720that these people could be so, so powerful, and so diabolical, and flaunt it so openly.
02:48:16.140Well, and it's, uh, the only real solution to that is, um, well, we have the example of great martyr Theodore of Tyro to, uh, to look upon.
02:48:24.100I mean, he basically, the emperor asked him to, um, stop, you know, uh, eat sacrifices dedicated to idols.
02:48:30.100And so what Theodore said, okay, I'll, uh, he was the local military commander.
02:48:34.420He said, okay, well, I'll meet you, uh, in the pagan temple, like, the next day.
02:48:37.940And he invited the emperor there and smashed up all of the idols in front of him.
02:48:42.100And, like, the emperor set him on fire.