Mysterium Fasces - Mysterium Fasces Episode 52

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00:04:52.980 Alleluia.

00:05:22.960 I'm your host, Florian Geyer.

00:05:24.480 It's a pleasure, dear listeners, to be joining you once again for our second recording of

00:05:28.940 this particular episode of Mysterium Fashies.

00:05:31.300 Joining me on the program today, I have Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson.

00:05:34.840 Doctor, thanks for rejoining us.

00:05:37.120 I'm very sorry about the technical difficulties that resulted in our lost recording.

00:05:41.980 Well, you know, you think of rock bands who've been playing the same song for 40 years every night.

00:05:47.320 You know, I think we'll live.

00:05:49.380 Yeah, so do I.

00:05:50.620 But I think that all of our listeners will be very excited to hear us give this subject another treatment.

00:05:57.140 So we covered such a huge breadth of material on the last recording.

00:06:02.160 I suppose in many senses it's still fairly fresh in our mind.

00:06:05.460 And to go right to the heart of the matter, we began our last episode by discussing the basic question as to why questions of epistemological nominalism are important for political control.

00:06:19.520 And why nominalism as a concept is so central to your critique of kind of the modern and enlightened and rationalist age, and even before that, the Western milieu which it came out of.

00:06:33.640 So why don't we begin there, and why don't we answer the question, why is epistemological nominalism important for political control, and what is nominalism?

00:06:42.800 Well, I'm glad you put it that way, because, you know, no one was talking about this 20 years ago when I started talking about it.

00:06:49.160 And now it's, you know, everyone who's read, you know, Aristotle in college is talking about how nominalism is the chasm separating the medieval from the modern.

00:07:02.680 And, you know, it's something that, I mean, I knew of no one at the time making that claim.

00:07:08.040 If they exist, they were very obscure.

00:07:11.780 Now it's very common.

00:07:13.080 And it's yet one more trend I began and will, you know, never get a citation for.

00:07:21.440 So I appreciate you putting it that way.

00:07:24.080 Well, let's start off with the definition of the term.

00:07:27.020 You know how philosophers are.

00:07:29.140 You know, they don't really have a lot to do all day long.

00:07:31.980 So, you know, they – big state university, they teach a class now and again.

00:07:35.420 And so they make ever finer and finer distinctions, distinctions with that much of a difference.

00:07:43.940 I'm not going to engage in that at all.

00:07:46.580 Nomalism is and always has been the notion that universal meaning doesn't exist outside of our minds,

00:07:56.060 that we are purposeless, that there can be no truth, at least no abiding truth,

00:08:05.240 that we are isolated individuals, that everything we do with each other is accidental,

00:08:11.600 even the family, because that becomes dangerously close to a universal.

00:08:18.160 They struggle with the idea of numbers.

00:08:20.680 Numbers really trip up the anomalous mentality,

00:08:22.800 which, of course, Plato had spoken about 2,500 years ago.

00:08:27.860 But before I – you know, this was – the main guy in the modern era,

00:08:32.920 there were a few pre-Socratics who talked about it.

00:08:35.040 But William of Ockham, Franciscan in England,

00:08:39.780 developed the notion, you know, really breaking with the Thomas,

00:08:43.860 and it's not an accident that he wasn't a Dominican,

00:08:50.080 that essences don't exist.

00:08:53.700 Now, I use words like essence or form or archetype.

00:08:56.820 They're synonymous.

00:08:58.440 These are the abiding realities that exist in God's mind as he created the world,

00:09:04.720 and he did it through logos that contains all the forms of Plato.

00:09:08.660 Even William of Ockham says, although I don't know why he bothers to mention this,

00:09:15.500 that forms exist in God's mind.

00:09:19.240 I don't know how he knows that,

00:09:20.960 but one of the real cardinal errors that make William such a perverse figure

00:09:26.080 is, first of all, we have no idea, you know, why he makes that claim or how he knows this,

00:09:33.560 except maybe he's just trying to save the theory.

00:09:36.520 But he posits a huge, huge, huge separation between God and man.

00:09:41.420 It ends up being pure voluntarism.

00:09:43.860 Something is good because God wills it.

00:09:45.460 There are no – any mention of an eternal standard goes out the window.

00:09:52.700 We talk about something like original sin, for example,

00:09:55.280 and this I got from Charles Cullum many years ago.

00:10:00.240 See, that's how you cite sources, you know.

00:10:02.460 Charles Cullum made the argument that you can't talk about original sin

00:10:07.020 unless you have a concept of human nature.

00:10:08.920 Anomalism can't be true.

00:10:11.440 You can't be a Christian anomalous at least for that reason

00:10:13.600 because what was it that was damaged such that it gets passed on?

00:10:18.180 It was a singular human nature.

00:10:20.100 How can you possibly talk about Chalcedon?

00:10:22.360 Or how can you talk about Christ at all

00:10:24.080 without making reference to a divine nature and a human nature

00:10:27.480 that operate in one form or another?

00:10:29.780 You can't.

00:10:31.500 This is why God chose the Greek language.

00:10:34.000 Christianity is a Greek religion at its root.

00:10:37.020 It's not Semitic.

00:10:38.020 It's Greek.

00:10:39.880 And Greece had one of the greatest vocabularies for metaphysics.

00:10:44.560 And it's not an accident that God chose that group of people.

00:10:48.900 And I think the language has a lot to do with it

00:10:51.200 because the concept of nature or archetype

00:10:55.120 is deep in the mentality of the post-Platonic world.

00:11:00.440 And Plato, of course, was the one who brought it to the height

00:11:03.160 and then Plotinus afterwards may even have improved on it,

00:11:07.040 at least as a mathematician.

00:11:08.160 And, but only in the modern world.

00:11:13.040 You get this notion that, so let's, for example, John Locke,

00:11:16.720 who's another major figure after Ockham,

00:11:20.980 a few centuries after Ockham,

00:11:22.400 that the natural world really doesn't exist.

00:11:25.980 It's a flux of nothing because his theory of property says that something becomes yours

00:11:32.300 when you mix your labor with something out in that flux,

00:11:38.940 some raw material.

00:11:40.220 You make something out of it.

00:11:41.920 That creates value.

00:11:43.200 That creates reality.

00:11:44.920 So what is that stuff before you mix your labor with it?

00:11:47.680 It isn't anything.

00:11:48.780 It has no value.

00:11:49.860 I mean, this is the core of industrialization.

00:11:51.920 The only thing that has value or meaning are those things that we create,

00:11:57.100 or really the elite create,

00:11:58.900 out of this flux of what we call nature.

00:12:02.480 They have no abiding reason.

00:12:04.440 It's just they're useful.

00:12:07.360 And there's no other purpose beyond that.

00:12:09.160 And that's this dead, mindless world that modernists have created.

00:12:15.920 And that's what, that's the default setting.

00:12:18.340 You know, I mean, epistemology is essential.

00:12:21.080 Most people don't understand why it's essential,

00:12:23.640 but epistemology is assumed in every sentence we utter.

00:12:28.240 You know, the assumption for most Americans, whether they know it or not,

00:12:31.620 is that the isolated individual is the only thing that exists.

00:12:36.320 There's really nothing above that.

00:12:37.520 They can't even conceive of it.

00:12:39.420 And even, you know, very intelligent people.

00:12:41.540 It's such an ingrained conception.

00:12:44.280 It informs everything they say and do.

00:12:46.500 And even for us, it's really hard to break out of that.

00:12:49.500 You have to isolate yourself.

00:12:51.420 But studying the fathers, and especially things like Chalcedon,

00:12:54.740 you cannot possibly be anomalous and be a Christian.

00:12:58.820 It's the ultimate panheresy.

00:13:00.480 Because something like Chalcedon makes absolutely no sense.

00:13:03.120 Adam's fall makes no sense.

00:13:04.280 Nothing in the faith makes sense,

00:13:05.780 unless you accept the idea of universals and real forms,

00:13:09.700 nature is abiding in creation.

00:13:11.200 Well said.

00:13:14.920 And so I think that the link here for,

00:13:17.880 to kind of extrapolate a little bit for our listeners,

00:13:20.220 is that the most potent tool for engaging in political control

00:13:25.580 is the manipulation of worldviews.

00:13:27.940 Like Stanford Research Institute released a very famous paper called,

00:13:31.620 it was on the changing images of man,

00:13:35.300 talking all about how psychological warfare,

00:13:38.540 in the practice of that,

00:13:40.740 it was essential to control man's own self-image

00:13:44.000 and his place in the cosmos.

00:13:45.700 How he viewed himself in relationship to the rest of the universe.

00:13:48.860 And so inserting the nominalist ideas of individualism

00:13:53.980 and of the lack of symbolic and semiotic reality,

00:13:59.260 the lack of universal categories,

00:14:00.900 is at the foundation, absolutely,

00:14:02.820 at the foundation of political control.

00:14:05.800 And so the example that I used last time as the total opposite,

00:14:12.640 and certainly most appropriately for the Orthodox Church,

00:14:15.480 is the liturgy,

00:14:17.100 where in the traditional Orthodox understanding,

00:14:21.220 we have a whole chain of being

00:14:24.020 proceeding back into the logos,

00:14:26.880 whereby these divine universal forms,

00:14:29.880 the logoi, which penetrate the reality around us,

00:14:33.780 provide this ability for superlative referent,

00:14:38.420 in the sense that when we interact with

00:14:40.340 a certain symbol or like an icon,

00:14:44.200 we're actually interacting with

00:14:46.560 a metaphysical reality that it represents behind it.

00:14:49.340 It is, as you say,

00:14:50.480 a gateway into a higher reality,

00:14:52.700 the opposite of the vapidity

00:14:54.520 that the term symbol now possesses.

00:14:57.060 And so in the liturgy,

00:14:58.720 all of man's human energies

00:15:01.120 are directed in a symbolic expression

00:15:03.320 towards the divine.

00:15:05.200 And the whole purpose of this

00:15:08.660 is to enable communion

00:15:10.420 with the divine personality,

00:15:12.200 the divine community.

00:15:12.960 And so what happens is that

00:15:15.300 when this metaphysical superstructure,

00:15:19.020 the symbolic reality

00:15:21.020 that enables our human activities

00:15:22.820 to be directed in a transcendental fashion

00:15:24.980 is severed from us philosophically,

00:15:27.240 when we make the statement that,

00:15:28.960 no, these actions and gestures

00:15:31.400 and words and forms

00:15:32.900 are not inherently meaningful,

00:15:35.240 they're not a reflection

00:15:36.240 of some uncreated reality,

00:15:38.440 but they are just the arbitrary

00:15:40.400 shorthand kind of post-hoc rationalizations

00:15:45.020 that come out of the chaotic flux

00:15:47.240 of churning matter.

00:15:48.580 And then that means that the liturgy,

00:15:50.660 symbology, metaphysical realism,

00:15:52.960 it all totally falls apart.

00:15:54.720 And once this is gone,

00:15:56.280 there can be no stable philosophical basis

00:15:59.680 to make claims of transcendental justice.

00:16:02.380 And so if you remove this ability

00:16:06.000 to even conceptualize

00:16:07.300 of some sort of universal state

00:16:09.100 of right order,

00:16:10.300 which can be appealed to

00:16:11.580 for readdress from wrongs,

00:16:13.660 it's an extremely profound

00:16:15.300 and useful tool

00:16:16.820 in the inaction of tyranny.

00:16:18.500 Well, the heresy of people

00:16:24.000 like Father John Romandides

00:16:25.840 and his followers,

00:16:28.540 as well as William of Ockham,

00:16:30.020 is that the liturgy would be arbitrary.

00:16:33.400 This is essential to the so-called

00:16:34.860 name worship heresy,

00:16:36.200 which very few people actually understand.

00:16:38.220 It has nothing to do with words or names.

00:16:40.060 Words or names actually refer to forms.

00:16:42.800 But very, very few people

00:16:43.740 in the Orthodox Church

00:16:44.480 are trained in that ability.

00:16:46.300 Name worship,

00:16:47.600 so-called name worship,

00:16:49.060 came into existence as a revolt

00:16:50.420 against the creeping nominalism

00:16:53.480 in the Petrine Church in Russia.

00:16:55.800 The condemnations of name worship

00:16:57.080 miss the point entirely.

00:16:59.840 No one worships words on a page.

00:17:02.360 It has to be in an institution

00:17:03.360 if that's the case.

00:17:05.280 No, they misunderstood the entire concept.

00:17:08.320 We're talking about

00:17:09.340 the gradations, as you refer to,

00:17:13.320 that join God and man.

00:17:16.300 If you take Father John Romandides'

00:17:18.460 concept literally,

00:17:19.800 and he never changed this,

00:17:21.720 is that everything that we view

00:17:22.960 in terms of God,

00:17:24.060 the scriptures,

00:17:24.720 liturgy,

00:17:25.120 this is all imaginary.

00:17:26.600 This is all just, you know,

00:17:27.720 cultural references

00:17:29.120 to something that we really

00:17:30.120 have no access to.

00:17:32.400 And I guess, you know,

00:17:33.520 he's really reduced to some sort

00:17:34.620 of Protestant concept of experience,

00:17:36.900 although he can never tell us

00:17:37.960 why one experience of grace

00:17:40.660 could be considered true

00:17:42.020 and the other false.

00:17:42.620 He gives us no criteria for that.

00:17:43.760 He can't give us criteria for that.

00:17:47.040 And that's the problem.

00:17:48.480 You can't really be

00:17:49.120 a consistent nominalist

00:17:50.080 because most of what you say

00:17:52.160 will be nonsense.

00:17:53.540 You imply it

00:17:54.760 whenever you make

00:17:56.040 any knowledge claim

00:17:56.880 that goes anywhere beyond

00:17:58.260 strict, vulgar utility.

00:18:01.520 The liturgy will be

00:18:02.860 completely destroyed.

00:18:03.580 I mean, a typical American,

00:18:04.840 even a typical Orthodox American,

00:18:06.060 look at the liturgy

00:18:06.600 and it says,

00:18:07.640 oh, this is what some people

00:18:08.920 created a million years ago.

00:18:09.960 We don't understand it

00:18:10.800 because they're so truncated.

00:18:13.300 They don't see

00:18:14.300 that every square inch

00:18:15.440 of that liturgical service

00:18:18.020 of the church,

00:18:19.020 if it's done properly,

00:18:19.780 of the icons,

00:18:21.020 is saturated with meaning,

00:18:23.240 almost none of which

00:18:24.020 they understand.

00:18:25.440 But the medieval peasant would.

00:18:27.740 You know,

00:18:28.000 I taught my medieval history class

00:18:30.500 at various universities.

00:18:32.000 I spent about half my time

00:18:33.280 explaining the symbolic world

00:18:35.260 because you can't make any sense

00:18:36.660 out of medieval history

00:18:37.440 until you first understand

00:18:39.140 what numbers mean,

00:18:39.960 what ratios mean,

00:18:41.100 that people didn't build things

00:18:43.820 for utilitarian reasons.

00:18:46.080 That, of course,

00:18:46.540 was a part of it,

00:18:47.040 but that wasn't the main reason.

00:18:48.760 These,

00:18:49.300 even the angles

00:18:50.800 and things that,

00:18:51.620 you know,

00:18:52.200 the church building

00:18:53.320 was a representation

00:18:54.960 of not only of man's fall

00:18:56.840 but of man's redemption

00:18:57.640 and everything in between.

00:18:59.640 The medieval peasant

00:19:00.280 would have understood this

00:19:01.120 because nominalism

00:19:02.200 didn't exist.

00:19:03.780 The medieval peasant

00:19:04.340 understood that

00:19:05.160 there are eternal truths

00:19:07.280 they would not be able

00:19:08.640 to explain it in depth

00:19:09.520 but it doesn't matter.

00:19:11.040 They're still better off

00:19:11.760 than the average professor

00:19:12.700 of philosophy today.

00:19:14.120 They realize that these things

00:19:15.440 join man and God.

00:19:16.940 There is such a thing

00:19:17.540 as human nature.

00:19:18.800 There is such a thing

00:19:19.480 as nature, period.

00:19:21.340 That has, you know,

00:19:22.740 natures that can be redeemed.

00:19:26.920 Nature can't be filled

00:19:27.820 with grace

00:19:28.240 unless there's something

00:19:28.960 to fill.

00:19:31.260 But the nominalist

00:19:31.900 only really sees

00:19:32.760 a swirl of accidents,

00:19:34.440 you know,

00:19:34.660 colors and purely

00:19:36.220 quantitative things.

00:19:38.220 And you have professors

00:19:39.300 of medieval history today

00:19:40.180 who have no idea

00:19:41.100 what the structure

00:19:43.460 of the medieval

00:19:44.280 Gregorian church

00:19:45.040 is supposed to look like.

00:19:46.200 I'm sorry,

00:19:46.480 the Romanesque church

00:19:47.000 is supposed to look like.

00:19:48.120 They have no idea.

00:19:48.780 They think this is just

00:19:49.340 something they threw up.

00:19:50.800 There's some symbolic things

00:19:51.840 that they don't know.

00:19:53.060 They're urban,

00:19:53.920 secular people.

00:19:54.580 What do they know?

00:19:55.980 And so there's no way

00:19:56.820 they can comprehend

00:19:57.380 the Middle Ages.

00:19:59.260 That's why,

00:19:59.780 one of the reasons

00:20:00.220 I lost my job

00:20:00.900 at Mount St. Mary

00:20:01.560 is I embarrassed

00:20:02.160 the main female

00:20:04.620 affirmative action professor.

00:20:05.860 Teresa Rupp

00:20:08.360 who had no idea

00:20:10.260 what this stuff meant.

00:20:11.340 Had no idea

00:20:11.720 what numbers meant,

00:20:12.920 ratios meant.

00:20:13.640 I embarrassed her

00:20:14.220 in front of class.

00:20:14.860 It was a lot of fun.

00:20:16.740 But it shows you

00:20:17.540 because nominalism

00:20:18.540 is everywhere.

00:20:19.740 They don't understand this.

00:20:21.640 And because they

00:20:22.080 don't understand it,

00:20:23.280 they can't see

00:20:24.060 how the average person

00:20:24.820 back then could have understood it.

00:20:26.460 The truncated existence

00:20:27.520 essentially looks like this.

00:20:30.500 the fallen,

00:20:32.460 you know,

00:20:32.640 alienated American

00:20:33.380 looks out

00:20:35.040 on this flux of nothing

00:20:36.560 and imposes,

00:20:39.060 projects

00:20:39.460 what he's been taught

00:20:41.120 you know,

00:20:42.440 from media or whatever,

00:20:43.960 mixed in with his own desires

00:20:45.140 and interests

00:20:46.080 and that becomes reality.

00:20:48.780 So,

00:20:49.380 what we call sanity today

00:20:50.780 is really the definition

00:20:51.960 of psychosis.

00:20:53.380 That's the nature

00:20:54.160 of the crisis

00:20:54.640 and we're at a point now

00:20:56.020 where we can't even

00:20:56.980 talk to these people.

00:20:57.880 We're not using words

00:20:58.620 in the same way.

00:21:00.300 They can't,

00:21:01.680 they think reason

00:21:02.300 and logic are the same thing.

00:21:04.160 They think

00:21:04.600 a rationalization

00:21:05.440 is the same as reason

00:21:06.340 and so even

00:21:09.060 at the most basic,

00:21:09.860 this is the nature

00:21:10.340 of totalitarianism.

00:21:11.240 This is what Alexander Dugan

00:21:12.080 spends a lot of time

00:21:12.700 talking about.

00:21:13.680 When you remove essences,

00:21:15.980 everything's just

00:21:16.480 a matter of names.

00:21:17.920 Well,

00:21:18.160 who has the power

00:21:18.840 to put names on things?

00:21:20.520 Well,

00:21:20.620 it's not me and you.

00:21:22.020 It's advertising.

00:21:23.140 It's capitalism.

00:21:23.980 It's these elites

00:21:24.680 who over generations

00:21:25.600 completely recreate

00:21:27.400 not just what we think

00:21:28.900 is good or bad

00:21:29.500 but what we think

00:21:29.920 is real and unreal.

00:21:31.680 This is a totalitarianism

00:21:32.800 that no dictator

00:21:33.420 could ever possibly

00:21:34.180 have dreamed of

00:21:35.760 but liberalism can do it

00:21:37.560 because liberalism

00:21:38.160 is based on

00:21:38.820 this corporate nominalism.

00:21:40.200 You cannot have

00:21:40.780 capitalism,

00:21:41.860 democracy,

00:21:42.500 industrialization,

00:21:43.100 any of that stuff

00:21:43.660 without nominalism.

00:21:45.940 It is the fundamental evil.

00:21:48.260 It's the ontology of death.

00:21:50.320 It is Satan's complete

00:21:51.960 lack of comprehension

00:21:52.820 of what creation is

00:21:53.760 just imposed

00:21:54.920 on everybody else.

00:21:57.400 Right, exactly.

00:21:58.520 And I recently recorded

00:21:59.720 a little ameliorative episode

00:22:03.780 to solve the spurning

00:22:07.140 wart that had come

00:22:09.720 into existence

00:22:10.200 from people's lack

00:22:11.340 of Mysterium Fascist

00:22:12.420 episode this week

00:22:13.080 and I talked about it

00:22:13.960 on atheism.

00:22:15.440 I was discussing

00:22:16.040 this exact phenomenon

00:22:16.880 and that the result

00:22:18.300 of nominalism

00:22:19.160 is that it creates

00:22:20.320 a false consciousness

00:22:21.180 in the mind of

00:22:22.480 the one who has been

00:22:23.600 nominalized,

00:22:24.640 so to speak,

00:22:25.620 where because they think

00:22:26.720 that nominalism

00:22:27.540 is this apotheosis

00:22:29.040 of objectivity

00:22:29.980 and rationality,

00:22:31.060 they perceive it

00:22:31.800 to be the default

00:22:33.100 worldview and setting

00:22:34.460 upon which,

00:22:35.500 and then they proceed

00:22:36.300 to project it

00:22:36.820 upon the rest

00:22:37.340 of the world.

00:22:38.300 And so,

00:22:39.240 and the great irony

00:22:41.660 and the reason

00:22:42.260 why nominalism

00:22:44.100 is so pernicious

00:22:45.300 is because it's not

00:22:46.560 just like the vapidity

00:22:48.540 of symbology,

00:22:50.240 but it's an anti-symbology

00:22:52.000 because it says

00:22:53.220 that a symbol

00:22:53.880 not only does it

00:22:55.360 not point to something

00:22:56.080 beyond itself,

00:22:57.140 but it cannot do so

00:22:58.580 because there is

00:22:59.360 no referent

00:23:00.080 for it to point

00:23:00.920 to beyond itself.

00:23:02.340 And what that means

00:23:03.060 is that if there's

00:23:03.640 no outside,

00:23:05.400 you know,

00:23:05.760 spiritual reality

00:23:06.620 for a symbol

00:23:07.700 or a sign

00:23:09.640 to point towards,

00:23:10.660 then all of that

00:23:11.460 spiritual reality

00:23:12.240 is constructed

00:23:13.060 within the human mind.

00:23:14.580 And as you point out,

00:23:15.960 Dr. Johnson,

00:23:16.660 the forms

00:23:18.160 and constructions

00:23:18.820 within the Westerners

00:23:20.640 mass mind today

00:23:21.380 are a product of,

00:23:22.980 that's corporate advertising

00:23:24.280 and culture.

00:23:26.040 You know,

00:23:26.200 Harry Potter is

00:23:26.920 much more prolific

00:23:28.100 than the Holy Scripture

00:23:29.460 and football

00:23:30.580 is certainly

00:23:31.260 more ingratiated

00:23:32.120 into Americans

00:23:33.380 than the liturgy

00:23:34.620 of John Chrysostom.

00:23:36.360 And so this,

00:23:37.200 this reality

00:23:40.180 of the false consciousness

00:23:41.800 makes it extremely easy

00:23:43.040 to control people

00:23:43.820 once you've set up

00:23:44.640 a false moral paradigm

00:23:46.120 and a false axis.

00:23:48.240 I mean,

00:23:49.000 this is a,

00:23:49.880 we talked about this

00:23:50.660 in our previous recording

00:23:52.660 and this is a very

00:23:53.540 common critique

00:23:54.160 from people

00:23:54.620 on the so-called,

00:23:55.420 I hate this term,

00:23:56.260 but alt-right

00:23:56.860 or far-right

00:23:57.420 is that conservatives

00:23:58.860 will try to argue

00:23:59.700 with liberals

00:24:00.260 inside of their own

00:24:01.540 moral paradigm,

00:24:02.860 which is extremely astute.

00:24:04.660 And this is a product

00:24:05.720 of the implicit

00:24:07.160 adoption of nominalism.

00:24:11.020 It's hard to break

00:24:11.940 out of that.

00:24:12.960 I came to that conclusion,

00:24:14.840 I must have been

00:24:15.380 a junior in college

00:24:16.480 and I,

00:24:19.040 other than Plato,

00:24:19.940 I really didn't have

00:24:21.000 any other way

00:24:22.340 to break out of it

00:24:23.140 because everything

00:24:24.560 that I was reading,

00:24:26.220 even,

00:24:26.500 you know,

00:24:26.620 even like Emin Burke,

00:24:28.040 you know,

00:24:28.540 culture is this way

00:24:30.360 that humans have adapted

00:24:31.360 to the world

00:24:31.860 and nothing more than that.

00:24:33.660 Now,

00:24:33.940 of course,

00:24:34.200 they adapt to the world

00:24:34.900 because human nature exists

00:24:36.020 and it has certain standards,

00:24:37.780 but that's not obvious.

00:24:40.840 Think of it,

00:24:41.480 you know,

00:24:43.280 you say that,

00:24:43.800 you know,

00:24:43.940 the word can't have

00:24:46.160 a referent

00:24:46.640 and that's true

00:24:47.340 because if it did,

00:24:49.720 that would limit

00:24:50.880 what corporate capitalism

00:24:52.640 and the state could do.

00:24:54.540 Think of it,

00:24:54.900 think of like the gold standard.

00:24:56.580 The gold standard

00:24:57.200 creates this objective

00:24:58.220 standard of value.

00:25:00.380 Banks can't really

00:25:01.060 mess with it too much.

00:25:03.660 The actual referent,

00:25:05.000 the definition

00:25:05.440 is the same thing.

00:25:07.500 Fiat money

00:25:07.940 is the nominalism

00:25:08.940 of the financial world

00:25:10.620 and this is not

00:25:11.560 an accidental connection.

00:25:13.080 It's based on nothing.

00:25:15.480 So,

00:25:16.060 if you remove

00:25:17.180 any referent

00:25:18.020 to a word,

00:25:20.380 the people who have the power

00:25:22.080 to assign words to things

00:25:23.500 and to assign meaning

00:25:25.160 to those words

00:25:25.760 and change meaning

00:25:26.420 to those words

00:25:27.060 control the very

00:25:28.620 inner workings

00:25:29.740 of the human brain.

00:25:32.100 Notice I don't say mind,

00:25:33.260 the human brain

00:25:33.860 and freedom

00:25:36.100 is impossible

00:25:37.280 because there's not

00:25:38.020 the vocabulary

00:25:38.660 to state it.

00:25:42.100 Intellectual life

00:25:43.140 in the academy today

00:25:44.000 is completely stagnated

00:25:45.280 not just because

00:25:46.600 of liberal conformity

00:25:47.520 but because they don't

00:25:48.700 really have a vocabulary

00:25:49.540 to go beyond

00:25:50.180 what they have

00:25:51.160 and now the virtual world

00:25:54.640 has even taken this

00:25:55.480 a further step

00:25:56.600 and you have

00:25:59.060 post-modernists

00:25:59.720 like Baudrillard

00:26:00.460 claiming that they

00:26:02.100 have discovered

00:26:02.560 this,

00:26:03.300 oh my god,

00:26:03.800 corporate America

00:26:04.380 can rule us

00:26:05.060 just by inventing

00:26:06.940 new words

00:26:07.740 and symbols

00:26:08.140 having no idea

00:26:09.960 that this has been

00:26:10.900 a complaint

00:26:11.360 to people like us

00:26:12.240 for many,

00:26:12.860 many centuries.

00:26:15.100 Another left

00:26:15.540 has now taken this

00:26:16.700 to themselves

00:26:17.420 as is kind of

00:26:18.100 neo-Marxist critique

00:26:19.180 having really no idea

00:26:20.580 what they're talking about

00:26:21.320 but even Karl Marx

00:26:22.640 said

00:26:22.940 when money becomes

00:26:24.740 this fluid standard

00:26:25.820 it means nothing

00:26:26.500 is a standard.

00:26:27.680 Who controls money

00:26:28.300 controls meaning.

00:26:29.880 There's really no different.

00:26:31.260 There is no reference

00:26:31.920 to anything.

00:26:32.480 Everything is dissolvable

00:26:33.360 into money.

00:26:34.680 There really isn't even

00:26:35.260 there's no accidents

00:26:36.000 anymore.

00:26:38.220 Everything is dissolvable

00:26:39.040 into money

00:26:42.100 but even that now

00:26:43.860 has been virtualized

00:26:44.740 so we hardly even

00:26:46.420 have the vocabulary

00:26:46.960 to describe what

00:26:47.640 it's been dissolved into

00:26:48.540 and the consequences

00:26:52.100 here are frightening

00:26:52.680 and this is why

00:26:53.340 outside of severe

00:26:55.700 shocks to the system

00:26:56.640 I have very little faith

00:26:58.420 that we can even

00:27:00.240 communicate with others

00:27:01.380 effectively

00:27:01.820 let alone bring about change.

00:27:04.520 Yes, absolutely.

00:27:05.960 So there are two concepts

00:27:06.920 that I want to explore further.

00:27:08.920 The first is the idea

00:27:10.560 of when the nature

00:27:13.340 of things is totally reduced

00:27:14.520 the idea of the

00:27:18.000 technomagus

00:27:19.920 or the Kabbalist

00:27:21.200 as the one who is able

00:27:22.660 to impose his will

00:27:23.620 upon reality

00:27:24.320 upon the quickened

00:27:26.300 and basened state

00:27:27.160 and so before we get

00:27:29.640 into the kind of

00:27:30.100 the more esoteric

00:27:31.040 Kabbalistic explanation

00:27:32.080 for the alchemical

00:27:33.800 understanding of nominalism

00:27:36.140 maybe we can go back

00:27:37.340 and we can talk

00:27:37.880 a little bit about

00:27:38.620 the history

00:27:40.120 of theological ideas

00:27:41.260 and how

00:27:42.080 William of Ockham

00:27:43.300 came out of a milieu

00:27:44.900 that was able to produce

00:27:46.000 such a concept

00:27:47.020 and so

00:27:48.980 I guess

00:27:50.840 with the question

00:27:51.440 I have is

00:27:51.940 what is the connection

00:27:52.940 between

00:27:53.560 the filioque

00:27:55.820 and created grace

00:27:57.220 and divine simplicity

00:27:58.240 and the production

00:27:59.420 of epistemological nominalism

00:28:01.260 put it very simply

00:28:03.180 this is something

00:28:03.640 by the way

00:28:04.060 that St. Phoecius

00:28:04.800 the Great

00:28:05.040 had predicted

00:28:05.840 as the

00:28:08.420 think of it

00:28:10.380 like this

00:28:11.060 the Holy Spirit

00:28:12.220 became institutionalized

00:28:14.020 in the person

00:28:17.780 of the papacy

00:28:18.300 this is why

00:28:20.280 Dostoevsky

00:28:20.700 was able to say

00:28:21.360 that the Roman

00:28:22.320 Catholic Church

00:28:22.920 could completely

00:28:23.400 dispense with the idea

00:28:24.400 of Christ or God

00:28:25.220 and still function

00:28:26.220 normally

00:28:26.640 as an institution

00:28:27.580 there's a certain

00:28:30.840 freedom

00:28:31.220 that the filioque

00:28:32.140 permits

00:28:32.700 the Holy Spirit

00:28:33.560 that does not exist

00:28:35.980 in the Roman Church

00:28:36.660 this is why

00:28:37.120 they removed

00:28:37.560 the epoclesis

00:28:38.440 the Holy Spirit

00:28:40.440 is not nearly

00:28:41.380 as referenced

00:28:41.920 in the scholastic world

00:28:43.460 as it is

00:28:44.180 in the East

00:28:44.760 and as it was

00:28:45.280 prior to that

00:28:46.180 when you

00:28:49.620 institutionalize

00:28:50.620 the Holy Spirit

00:28:51.340 as the papacy

00:28:53.500 does

00:28:53.860 you get the idea

00:28:55.100 of created grace

00:28:55.840 because

00:28:57.380 the simple argument

00:28:59.760 goes like this

00:29:01.040 if Christ

00:29:03.940 creates

00:29:04.640 the Spirit

00:29:05.400 which of course

00:29:07.460 the East rejects

00:29:08.360 and the papacy

00:29:10.260 is the image

00:29:11.620 of Christ

00:29:12.540 then

00:29:14.080 and really

00:29:14.800 the presence

00:29:15.140 of Christ on earth

00:29:15.860 and they're quite

00:29:16.480 literal about that

00:29:17.260 then

00:29:18.320 grace

00:29:19.880 and the Spirit

00:29:21.560 itself

00:29:21.980 derives from

00:29:23.120 the papacy

00:29:23.460 and this is where

00:29:26.180 you get created grace

00:29:27.000 this is where

00:29:27.360 you get indulgences

00:29:28.120 this is where

00:29:29.060 you get the

00:29:29.460 complete deification

00:29:30.380 of the hierarchy

00:29:30.920 this is where

00:29:31.740 you get

00:29:32.080 the priestly

00:29:34.220 class being

00:29:35.020 completely removed

00:29:35.660 from the population

00:29:36.460 being treated

00:29:37.880 all as monks

00:29:38.420 rather than

00:29:38.920 just as

00:29:39.480 common people

00:29:40.380 and it's a

00:29:42.520 long fuse

00:29:43.340 but when you put

00:29:44.560 it like that

00:29:44.940 I think it's

00:29:45.280 easier to comprehend

00:29:45.940 it takes a long

00:29:46.700 time

00:29:47.080 and this is why

00:29:48.760 I've said

00:29:49.040 many many times

00:29:49.620 that the great

00:29:50.180 Roman heresy

00:29:50.960 has created grace

00:29:51.720 because it

00:29:53.380 means that

00:29:54.080 the hierarchy

00:29:54.520 itself is

00:29:55.120 deified

00:29:55.480 and gets

00:29:56.480 to decide

00:29:57.100 where the

00:29:57.520 Spirit

00:29:57.720 goes

00:29:58.140 or of course

00:30:00.240 in the East

00:30:01.000 you know

00:30:01.580 bishops don't

00:30:02.000 rule anything

00:30:02.620 there's simply

00:30:03.200 this

00:30:03.460 the Eden

00:30:04.800 has been

00:30:05.080 recreated

00:30:05.460 in the church

00:30:05.960 and all

00:30:06.460 bishops can do

00:30:06.980 is just

00:30:07.280 point to it

00:30:07.740 and tell us

00:30:08.620 how to get

00:30:08.900 there

00:30:09.160 half the time

00:30:09.900 they don't

00:30:10.300 know how to

00:30:10.500 get there

00:30:10.660 themselves

00:30:11.060 you know

00:30:12.860 they don't

00:30:13.200 rule anything

00:30:13.800 they're just

00:30:14.240 monks

00:30:14.820 but in the

00:30:15.720 western world

00:30:16.740 they absolutely

00:30:17.620 rule

00:30:18.000 and they

00:30:18.780 control where

00:30:19.300 grace goes

00:30:19.900 and where

00:30:20.860 it doesn't

00:30:21.220 go

00:30:21.400 and that's

00:30:21.900 why they

00:30:22.220 could

00:30:22.380 you know

00:30:23.240 even up

00:30:24.340 until the

00:30:24.560 1950s

00:30:25.140 you had

00:30:25.280 Roman Catholics

00:30:25.760 who would

00:30:26.840 fill out

00:30:27.260 these mathematical

00:30:27.820 formula

00:30:28.220 how long

00:30:28.580 you're going

00:30:28.740 to spend

00:30:28.940 in purgatory

00:30:29.440 a million

00:30:30.520 years

00:30:30.860 a hundred

00:30:31.040 thousand

00:30:31.280 years

00:30:31.500 taken off

00:30:31.980 you do

00:30:32.160 this

00:30:32.380 you know

00:30:32.580 50 years

00:30:33.040 25 years

00:30:33.760 and they

00:30:35.140 were taken

00:30:35.620 very seriously

00:30:36.160 and that makes

00:30:37.540 perfect sense

00:30:38.260 when you

00:30:40.160 accept the

00:30:40.880 philioquate

00:30:41.260 when you

00:30:42.480 institutionalize

00:30:43.260 the Holy

00:30:43.560 Spirit like

00:30:44.040 that

00:30:44.240 and that's

00:30:45.620 what the

00:30:45.840 papacy is

00:30:46.280 based on

00:30:46.680 that's the

00:30:47.120 really

00:30:47.600 horrible

00:30:49.040 error of

00:30:49.420 it

00:30:49.640 and

00:30:50.740 when you

00:30:51.420 institutionalize

00:30:52.080 it

00:30:52.200 it no longer

00:30:52.700 has any

00:30:53.100 freedom

00:30:53.360 and

00:30:54.840 the hierarchy

00:30:56.000 itself

00:30:56.420 is deified

00:30:57.020 when you

00:30:58.200 no longer

00:30:58.460 accept the

00:30:58.820 hierarchy

00:30:59.080 after a

00:30:59.500 while

00:30:59.680 then what's

00:31:00.980 left

00:31:01.240 and this

00:31:02.800 is why

00:31:03.080 Occam

00:31:03.400 ended up

00:31:04.540 Occam by the

00:31:06.420 way was a

00:31:06.900 supporter of

00:31:07.340 the conciliarist

00:31:07.880 movement

00:31:08.160 and really

00:31:10.400 essentially was a

00:31:11.140 Protestant

00:31:11.380 in his general

00:31:13.240 mentality

00:31:13.660 the Protestant

00:31:14.180 Reformation

00:31:14.680 and all of

00:31:15.360 its

00:31:15.580 elements

00:31:16.280 brought

00:31:17.600 nominalism

00:31:18.160 to

00:31:18.620 respectability

00:31:19.460 without

00:31:19.760 realizing

00:31:20.200 I think

00:31:21.700 there was

00:31:21.920 some

00:31:22.060 deviation

00:31:22.440 in the

00:31:23.060 Anglicans

00:31:23.480 because they

00:31:24.080 really weren't

00:31:24.500 much of

00:31:24.780 they didn't

00:31:25.360 know what

00:31:25.580 they were

00:31:25.860 but as far

00:31:26.980 as the

00:31:27.140 Continental

00:31:27.460 Reformers

00:31:29.100 they were

00:31:29.920 extreme

00:31:30.420 nominalists

00:31:30.900 in how they

00:31:31.380 viewed the

00:31:31.800 individual

00:31:32.440 will

00:31:34.460 being the

00:31:35.740 only source

00:31:36.260 of interpretation

00:31:36.800 of these

00:31:37.740 words on a

00:31:38.180 page

00:31:38.480 that just

00:31:39.080 magically

00:31:39.380 appeared

00:31:39.740 in front of

00:31:40.220 them

00:31:40.540 and

00:31:42.400 of course

00:31:43.560 completely

00:31:43.880 cut off

00:31:44.240 from the

00:31:44.440 church

00:31:44.600 fathers

00:31:44.900 completely

00:31:45.160 cut off

00:31:45.500 from

00:31:45.680 Christian

00:31:46.340 culture

00:31:46.600 at all

00:31:47.040 what did

00:31:48.280 they have

00:31:48.660 they had

00:31:49.140 the state

00:31:49.500 and they

00:31:50.000 had the

00:31:50.260 economy

00:31:50.580 this is

00:31:51.940 why I

00:31:52.320 love

00:31:52.780 the

00:31:53.020 Reformation

00:31:53.460 and

00:31:54.640 nominalism

00:31:55.340 is at

00:31:55.920 the backdrop

00:31:56.420 of all

00:31:56.960 of it

00:31:57.340 and this

00:31:57.680 is all

00:31:57.980 connected

00:31:58.320 and

00:31:59.280 as I

00:32:00.400 get older

00:32:00.700 it doesn't

00:32:01.440 seem that

00:32:01.820 complicated

00:32:02.100 to me

00:32:02.400 now

00:32:02.740 for a

00:32:03.620 newcomer

00:32:04.020 it's a

00:32:04.800 long way

00:32:05.460 to explain

00:32:06.220 these different

00:32:06.780 steps

00:32:07.120 but it

00:32:07.900 all makes

00:32:08.240 sense

00:32:08.480 it all

00:32:08.780 fits

00:32:08.920 together

00:32:09.220 and it's

00:32:10.440 not something

00:32:10.860 that people

00:32:11.280 deliberately

00:32:12.080 did

00:32:12.420 these were

00:32:14.520 teasing out

00:32:16.380 of meanings

00:32:16.840 over time

00:32:17.580 and it

00:32:18.440 became the

00:32:18.820 background noise

00:32:19.520 the default

00:32:20.120 settings of

00:32:20.620 how people

00:32:20.960 thought

00:32:21.240 none of

00:32:22.200 this was

00:32:22.460 deliberate

00:32:22.760 none of

00:32:23.080 this was

00:32:23.560 planned

00:32:24.980 out

00:32:25.260 and that's

00:32:26.760 why most

00:32:27.180 people

00:32:27.380 including

00:32:27.900 intellectuals

00:32:28.580 aren't really

00:32:28.900 aware of it

00:32:29.680 and although

00:32:30.500 that might

00:32:30.940 be changing

00:32:31.400 yeah

00:32:33.360 one would

00:32:34.380 certainly hope

00:32:35.060 I think it

00:32:35.560 is changing

00:32:35.940 a little bit

00:32:36.480 to come

00:32:37.300 back to the

00:32:37.940 issue of

00:32:38.340 created

00:32:38.620 grace

00:32:39.020 one of

00:32:40.160 the themes

00:32:40.460 I guess

00:32:40.760 in

00:32:40.860 Mysterium

00:32:41.240 Fascis

00:32:41.660 is often

00:32:42.640 that esoteric

00:32:43.920 theological

00:32:44.480 and philosophical

00:32:45.660 ideas are

00:32:46.400 extremely

00:32:46.920 important

00:32:47.880 for everyday

00:32:49.140 political

00:32:50.320 control

00:32:50.900 and

00:32:52.080 essentially

00:32:53.660 human activity

00:32:54.420 and human

00:32:54.780 flourishing

00:32:55.240 and that

00:32:55.980 they have

00:32:56.300 extremely

00:32:56.960 far-reaching

00:32:57.560 consequences

00:32:58.120 despite the

00:32:59.160 seeming

00:33:00.380 minutiae

00:33:02.580 and kind

00:33:03.080 of

00:33:04.300 academic

00:33:05.380 fart-huffing

00:33:06.540 that

00:33:06.800 these

00:33:07.500 issues

00:33:08.080 tend

00:33:08.300 to

00:33:08.580 engender

00:33:09.440 in the

00:33:09.760 listener

00:33:10.160 and so

00:33:11.320 coming back

00:33:12.100 to the

00:33:12.320 issue

00:33:12.580 of

00:33:12.960 created

00:33:13.620 grace

00:33:14.080 at hand

00:33:15.100 the

00:33:16.120 distinction

00:33:16.680 must be

00:33:17.080 made

00:33:17.320 for

00:33:17.660 those

00:33:18.260 who are

00:33:18.420 new

00:33:18.540 to this

00:33:18.800 subject

00:33:19.100 if we're

00:33:19.720 thinking

00:33:19.920 about

00:33:20.300 the sacraments

00:33:21.640 which is a

00:33:22.100 really good

00:33:22.500 example

00:33:22.880 the

00:33:23.960 difference

00:33:24.240 between

00:33:24.520 created

00:33:24.980 grace

00:33:25.380 and

00:33:25.660 uncreated

00:33:26.080 grace

00:33:26.420 and the

00:33:26.660 sacramental

00:33:27.100 life

00:33:27.320 of the

00:33:27.560 church

00:33:27.860 is

00:33:28.640 essentially

00:33:29.240 the

00:33:29.520 difference

00:33:29.820 between

00:33:30.360 the

00:33:32.360 heresy

00:33:32.740 of

00:33:33.160 docetism

00:33:34.260 and

00:33:34.480 orthodoxy

00:33:35.220 and so

00:33:35.980 the early

00:33:36.900 gnostic

00:33:37.200 heresy

00:33:38.240 of

00:33:38.480 docetism

00:33:39.020 said that

00:33:40.520 Jesus was

00:33:41.000 not actually

00:33:41.580 fully a

00:33:42.060 man

00:33:42.300 but he

00:33:42.840 merely

00:33:43.100 appeared

00:33:43.580 to be

00:33:44.060 a man

00:33:44.540 to the

00:33:45.280 outside

00:33:45.720 observer

00:33:46.660 and so

00:33:47.920 if

00:33:48.940 the church

00:33:50.000 is supposed

00:33:50.400 to be

00:33:50.840 Christ's

00:33:51.620 continual

00:33:52.180 body

00:33:52.660 on earth

00:33:53.180 and at

00:33:53.860 Pentecost

00:33:54.420 with the

00:33:54.800 creation

00:33:55.140 of the

00:33:55.440 church

00:33:55.820 it was

00:33:56.760 the descent

00:33:57.180 of the

00:33:57.420 Holy Spirit

00:33:58.000 which created

00:33:58.980 this body

00:33:59.660 then you

00:34:00.520 have to

00:34:00.820 ask the

00:34:01.180 question

00:34:01.440 what is

00:34:01.780 the nature

00:34:02.180 of the

00:34:03.080 church

00:34:03.380 and what

00:34:03.760 is the

00:34:03.980 nature

00:34:04.200 of man's

00:34:04.740 interaction

00:34:05.400 with it

00:34:05.760 in Christ

00:34:06.280 are we

00:34:06.940 interacting

00:34:07.400 directly

00:34:07.920 with Christ

00:34:08.520 or are we

00:34:09.280 interacting

00:34:09.740 with some

00:34:10.140 sort of

00:34:10.440 created

00:34:10.800 medium

00:34:11.240 which

00:34:12.000 just gives

00:34:12.580 us the

00:34:13.020 appearance

00:34:13.460 of Christ

00:34:13.940 under the

00:34:14.960 idea of

00:34:15.680 created

00:34:16.220 grace

00:34:16.760 the

00:34:17.680 divinization

00:34:19.100 or the

00:34:19.860 process

00:34:20.400 of becoming

00:34:21.820 godlike

00:34:22.540 inside of

00:34:23.100 the context

00:34:23.860 of the

00:34:24.160 church

00:34:24.480 is not

00:34:25.660 really what

00:34:26.120 happens

00:34:26.540 when someone

00:34:27.820 is chrismated

00:34:28.560 under the

00:34:29.080 idea the

00:34:29.780 theology of

00:34:30.640 created grace

00:34:31.360 it's not that

00:34:32.440 the Holy Spirit

00:34:33.200 himself begins

00:34:34.320 to settle

00:34:35.280 and makes a

00:34:35.860 temple of the

00:34:36.520 man's body

00:34:37.080 it's not that

00:34:37.920 there is a

00:34:38.260 direct

00:34:38.700 contact between

00:34:41.060 the uncreated

00:34:41.920 reality of god

00:34:43.060 and his presence

00:34:43.840 in the believer

00:34:44.500 and their own

00:34:45.200 human energies

00:34:45.860 and this communion

00:34:47.140 this relationship

00:34:48.020 as the foundation

00:34:49.260 of the

00:34:49.900 salvific

00:34:50.280 effort

00:34:50.600 but rather

00:34:52.180 what happens

00:34:52.760 is there just

00:34:53.280 seems to be

00:34:54.320 this reality

00:34:55.080 and under

00:34:56.220 theology of

00:34:57.320 created grace

00:34:57.920 it's not that

00:34:58.580 the Holy Spirit

00:34:59.320 resides within you

00:35:00.700 through the

00:35:01.280 sacramental

00:35:01.820 initiation

00:35:02.340 but rather

00:35:03.180 that there is a

00:35:03.740 created force

00:35:04.540 which impels

00:35:05.220 you towards

00:35:05.920 sort of a

00:35:06.600 habitual

00:35:07.080 cultivation

00:35:07.940 of virtue

00:35:08.500 and a

00:35:09.460 ever clearer

00:35:10.520 contemplation of

00:35:11.760 the created

00:35:12.780 ideas in the

00:35:13.860 world around you

00:35:15.700 and so this

00:35:16.920 is basically

00:35:17.700 why when

00:35:18.940 Barlam and

00:35:19.560 Palamas were

00:35:20.120 having their

00:35:20.540 famous debates

00:35:21.240 Palamas said

00:35:22.000 to Barlam that

00:35:22.640 if you continue

00:35:23.200 with this idea

00:35:23.940 of divine

00:35:25.000 simplicity and

00:35:25.660 created grace

00:35:26.160 you will produce

00:35:26.900 atheists

00:35:27.360 you will make

00:35:28.180 atheists

00:35:28.640 because if god

00:35:29.820 is absolutely

00:35:30.740 divinely simple

00:35:31.700 meaning that

00:35:32.600 there are no

00:35:33.220 distinctions between

00:35:34.060 his essence

00:35:34.560 and his energies

00:35:35.180 or his grace

00:35:35.900 and his essence

00:35:37.100 then that means

00:35:38.080 that god can

00:35:38.760 interact with us

00:35:39.620 directly

00:35:40.020 that's what

00:35:41.600 god's grace is

00:35:42.380 his direct

00:35:42.840 interaction with us

00:35:43.780 and so if this

00:35:44.880 is cut off

00:35:45.880 through the

00:35:47.520 introduction of

00:35:48.200 the filioque

00:35:48.760 the subordination

00:35:49.540 of the activity

00:35:50.360 of the holy

00:35:50.820 spirit to logos

00:35:51.960 rather than

00:35:52.860 that dynamic

00:35:53.520 cooperation of

00:35:54.820 both the spirit

00:35:55.500 and logos

00:35:56.320 to the one

00:35:57.320 monarchical principle

00:35:58.560 of the father

00:35:59.160 there is this

00:36:01.100 imbalance and it

00:36:02.060 creates this

00:36:03.460 created grace

00:36:04.220 and it turns

00:36:05.220 the sacramental

00:36:07.220 reality

00:36:07.900 the metaphysical

00:36:10.340 reality of life

00:36:11.780 in the church

00:36:12.300 of the liturgy

00:36:13.040 of the ecclesiarchy

00:36:15.120 and all this

00:36:15.720 into

00:36:16.620 a soft nominalism

00:36:19.360 basically

00:36:19.740 well

00:36:21.840 you know

00:36:22.320 this is something

00:36:22.800 that tortured me

00:36:24.000 as I was converting

00:36:24.980 to orthodoxy

00:36:26.140 because

00:36:27.500 and it tortured me

00:36:28.640 for many years

00:36:29.320 and it really

00:36:29.920 quite literally

00:36:30.540 kept me up at night

00:36:31.260 because

00:36:32.600 one of the hardest

00:36:34.640 things that I had

00:36:35.820 to deal with

00:36:36.280 and I think most

00:36:36.780 converts

00:36:37.180 is how do we

00:36:39.260 avoid seeing

00:36:40.300 sacraments

00:36:40.960 as something

00:36:41.940 other than

00:36:42.420 magical spells

00:36:43.160 because

00:36:44.860 in the Roman church

00:36:45.840 that's exactly

00:36:46.500 what they are

00:36:47.120 the priest

00:36:48.520 summons

00:36:49.200 through the

00:36:50.820 agency

00:36:51.480 of the papacy

00:36:51.920 of course

00:36:52.260 summons

00:36:53.540 God's grace

00:36:54.660 to do his bidding

00:36:55.920 to you know

00:36:56.600 consecration

00:36:57.580 or forgiveness

00:36:58.120 of sins

00:36:58.500 or whatever it is

00:36:59.220 and that is

00:37:00.120 the only place

00:37:00.900 the only place

00:37:01.680 that grace

00:37:03.660 can be found

00:37:04.120 so you do

00:37:06.040 the wrong thing

00:37:06.880 you're afraid

00:37:07.320 you're going to die

00:37:07.920 you have to run out

00:37:08.820 and wave down

00:37:09.400 a priest somewhere

00:37:10.100 or you're going to

00:37:10.520 burn in hell forever

00:37:11.140 that's the logical

00:37:12.980 consequence here

00:37:14.040 no wonder there's

00:37:14.960 atheists

00:37:15.380 and sometimes

00:37:18.040 I even fall

00:37:18.820 and treat

00:37:20.220 confession

00:37:21.000 just like

00:37:21.500 oh you know

00:37:21.960 I'm cleansed now

00:37:23.040 but that's not

00:37:24.140 how it works

00:37:24.800 there's you know

00:37:26.820 Eden already exists

00:37:28.180 in the church

00:37:28.700 in the orthodox world

00:37:29.540 the only reason

00:37:30.820 we do any of this

00:37:31.520 stuff

00:37:31.840 is to make

00:37:33.120 ourselves able

00:37:34.000 to experience it

00:37:34.900 that's it

00:37:36.580 there's no experience

00:37:37.800 in the Roman church

00:37:39.040 it's a series

00:37:39.840 of mechanical steps

00:37:41.620 now there's always

00:37:42.820 great mystics

00:37:43.400 like the Carthusians

00:37:43.980 and stuff like that

00:37:44.740 but they're very far

00:37:45.940 out of the mainstream

00:37:46.840 and Carthusians

00:37:47.520 you know

00:37:48.480 hardly except Vatican II

00:37:49.640 even today

00:37:50.140 you know

00:37:51.060 they're just completely

00:37:51.820 separated

00:37:52.360 the mystical elements

00:37:54.060 were driven out

00:37:55.060 and Trent had nothing

00:37:56.620 to do with it

00:37:57.120 even though you

00:37:57.720 you know

00:37:58.020 you had

00:37:58.440 Carthusian type people

00:37:59.880 who rebelled against

00:38:00.900 the Roman church

00:38:03.020 became mechanical

00:38:04.120 judicial body

00:38:08.380 that

00:38:10.060 and God

00:38:11.040 is nothing more

00:38:11.660 than this very

00:38:12.400 very nasty

00:38:13.020 old man

00:38:13.800 who sits on high

00:38:14.480 with a long beard

00:38:15.100 and can't wait

00:38:16.320 to send you to hell

00:38:16.920 and

00:38:18.460 and anything

00:38:19.480 will do it

00:38:19.820 and even

00:38:20.140 even if you

00:38:20.600 even if you're saved

00:38:21.440 you're still going to

00:38:22.280 suffer for a long time

00:38:23.620 in the fires of purgatory

00:38:25.160 so even being saved

00:38:26.120 is horrible

00:38:26.520 and

00:38:28.280 it's really easy

00:38:29.020 to go from that

00:38:29.680 to saying no

00:38:30.180 this can't possibly be

00:38:31.060 this is not justice

00:38:32.380 you know

00:38:33.560 this is why I'm opposed

00:38:34.320 to the toll houses

00:38:35.000 at least according to the dream

00:38:36.120 it's the exact same thing

00:38:37.840 these judicial

00:38:39.240 and the way it's described

00:38:40.620 in the dream

00:38:41.100 doesn't even make sense

00:38:42.280 and it's self-contradictory

00:38:44.740 and it's idiotic

00:38:45.940 but

00:38:46.080 it's the exact same thing

00:38:48.200 this is what happens

00:38:49.000 when a simple mind

00:38:49.840 it brings in

00:38:52.120 the mechanical view

00:38:53.040 of the Roman church

00:38:53.760 or simply a fallen human nature

00:38:55.180 into the church

00:38:56.880 God doesn't judge anybody

00:39:00.720 our conscience judges us

00:39:01.800 you know

00:39:02.920 and we don't make excuses

00:39:04.280 you know

00:39:05.020 when we face God

00:39:06.240 we can't

00:39:06.880 in that stage

00:39:07.780 but this is what you get

00:39:09.680 when the Holy Spirit

00:39:11.460 is essentially

00:39:11.820 imprisoned in the Vatican

00:39:12.600 and

00:39:13.560 the sacrament

00:39:14.620 becomes

00:39:15.300 a magic spell

00:39:16.740 no Roman Catholic

00:39:18.200 can explain

00:39:19.300 a sacrament

00:39:19.760 other than

00:39:20.360 as a magical spell

00:39:22.440 and if you don't have

00:39:23.840 that

00:39:24.080 consecrated magician

00:39:25.400 you have no grace of God

00:39:27.560 God is an alien to you

00:39:29.320 you have no connection

00:39:30.920 with him

00:39:31.280 and when you commit a sin

00:39:33.420 you're back to being

00:39:34.500 an alien again

00:39:35.080 a pagan again

00:39:35.680 until you get

00:39:36.880 that magic spell

00:39:37.560 of confession

00:39:38.000 and let me tell you something

00:39:39.540 it tortured a lot of people

00:39:40.940 it tortured me

00:39:42.200 as a young man

00:39:43.300 until I realized

00:39:45.540 wait a minute

00:39:46.180 wait a minute

00:39:47.260 God

00:39:48.200 you know

00:39:49.140 if this were my father

00:39:50.180 he would be a horrible

00:39:51.020 abusive man

00:39:51.800 this isn't justice

00:39:53.220 this is awful

00:39:54.080 this isn't

00:39:55.320 this is nothing

00:39:56.200 but human alienation

00:39:58.100 imposed on

00:39:59.600 on the church

00:40:00.480 and fright

00:40:01.100 and fear

00:40:01.740 my father would never

00:40:03.700 act like that

00:40:04.220 it says right in the Psalms

00:40:06.240 that God acts

00:40:08.000 just like

00:40:08.480 a father

00:40:08.900 we go to him

00:40:10.800 your little child

00:40:11.420 comes to you

00:40:12.000 I've done the same thing

00:40:13.020 over to God

00:40:13.420 what do you do

00:40:13.700 slap him in the face

00:40:14.380 you beat him into the ground

00:40:15.760 that's exactly what

00:40:16.520 the Roman church said

00:40:17.220 people who believe

00:40:18.440 that

00:40:18.660 that God

00:40:19.680 is just this nasty guy

00:40:20.560 looking for any damn excuse

00:40:21.620 to

00:40:22.460 to torture you

00:40:23.560 and salvation

00:40:24.420 is almost impossible

00:40:25.440 and even if it is possible

00:40:27.600 you have to go through

00:40:28.460 this gauntlet

00:40:29.080 of agony

00:40:29.980 which is just another version

00:40:30.940 of purgatory

00:40:31.420 so even

00:40:32.140 even our sufferings

00:40:32.860 on earth aren't enough

00:40:33.500 endless

00:40:34.760 this obsession

00:40:35.360 this sadomasochistic

00:40:36.380 almost sexual

00:40:37.460 obsession with pain

00:40:38.600 that you see

00:40:40.320 in these elements

00:40:40.880 and the Roman church

00:40:42.480 the filioque

00:40:43.420 ultimately is

00:40:44.160 it's the cause

00:40:44.820 because

00:40:45.940 when you imprison

00:40:46.900 the Holy Spirit

00:40:47.500 that way

00:40:47.940 created grace

00:40:49.360 is the only

00:40:50.100 this is what

00:40:50.920 the papacy

00:40:51.360 is based on

00:40:52.020 he has to be infallible

00:40:54.320 because this is where

00:40:54.940 the Holy Spirit is

00:40:56.060 really

00:40:57.560 not only that

00:40:58.180 it's where the Holy Spirit

00:40:58.680 derives from

00:40:59.360 that's really what grace is

00:41:01.300 and

00:41:02.560 and so the sacraments

00:41:03.660 become magical spells

00:41:04.840 and I to this day

00:41:06.480 struggle with that

00:41:07.440 it's so easy to fall into that

00:41:08.720 because we're secular people

00:41:09.900 we're forced to live

00:41:10.460 in a secular world

00:41:11.120 and only isolation

00:41:12.820 and study

00:41:13.300 and struggle

00:41:13.740 has us realized

00:41:15.460 that

00:41:15.880 that this is not a government

00:41:17.340 this is not a

00:41:18.160 you know

00:41:18.920 the bishop doesn't rule the church

00:41:20.200 like the governor of Alabama

00:41:21.180 rules the state

00:41:22.080 those are ridiculous

00:41:24.300 metaphors

00:41:25.760 our work

00:41:28.860 in self-denial

00:41:30.060 is about

00:41:30.720 being able to

00:41:31.480 experience God's presence

00:41:32.720 and you can only do that

00:41:34.720 with true doctrine

00:41:35.300 you can only do that

00:41:36.020 with true practice

00:41:36.720 and

00:41:39.040 and that's what our struggle

00:41:41.720 is all about

00:41:42.300 none of us

00:41:42.960 none of us are going to

00:41:44.300 die sinless

00:41:45.440 we're going to die

00:41:46.740 very very messed up people

00:41:47.720 there's no way

00:41:48.540 out of that

00:41:49.060 we all know this

00:41:50.820 anyone who says otherwise

00:41:51.680 is a moron

00:41:52.360 they're deluded fools

00:41:53.640 who think that they're

00:41:54.240 holy and pure

00:41:55.000 and everyone else

00:41:55.640 is beneath them

00:41:56.200 we're all going to die

00:41:57.380 miserable

00:41:57.860 and

00:41:59.160 and

00:41:59.500 and

00:42:01.140 if that mechanical view

00:42:02.800 of the church is true

00:42:03.520 then none of us

00:42:05.660 will be saved

00:42:06.460 but the tall houses are true

00:42:08.240 none of us

00:42:09.020 none of us could go through those

00:42:10.140 and win

00:42:10.780 every little

00:42:12.820 you know

00:42:13.140 the way that it's described

00:42:14.140 in the dream of

00:42:14.900 of

00:42:15.160 of Paul

00:42:17.040 no way

00:42:18.820 none of us would be saved

00:42:20.060 it's impossible

00:42:20.600 but there's no mercy

00:42:22.020 in these things

00:42:22.560 and this is what the

00:42:23.860 filioquia does

00:42:24.460 this is ultimately

00:42:25.040 what comes down

00:42:26.060 to nominalism

00:42:26.660 the removal of grace

00:42:28.940 from the world

00:42:29.640 of form from the world

00:42:30.700 and it's also connected

00:42:31.720 of course with the fact

00:42:32.400 that Roman

00:42:32.780 Roman people

00:42:33.720 had fallen away

00:42:34.360 gradually

00:42:35.640 slowly but surely

00:42:36.400 the instantiated essences

00:42:38.320 of the Thomas

00:42:39.080 slowly but surely

00:42:40.800 disappeared from view

00:42:41.620 and so

00:42:42.820 William of Ockham

00:42:43.460 comes a hundred years

00:42:44.340 after Thomas

00:42:45.200 it's no surprise

00:42:46.300 it's no surprise

00:42:48.580 and then after that

00:42:49.440 nature is now dead

00:42:50.980 and a hundred years later

00:42:52.740 you have the Protestants

00:42:53.820 this is not

00:42:55.180 an accidental thing

00:42:55.960 this is all connected

00:42:56.760 it all makes perfect sense

00:42:57.780 yeah well that is precisely

00:42:59.940 the result of nominalism

00:43:01.900 is the desacralization

00:43:02.920 of the cosmos

00:43:03.600 and once you're freed

00:43:04.800 from

00:43:05.180 restraint

00:43:06.960 in terms of the way

00:43:08.220 you interact with

00:43:09.440 with nature

00:43:10.720 and with the cosmos

00:43:11.360 I mean you can do

00:43:11.960 whatever you want

00:43:12.700 and I think that

00:43:13.580 we can bring it back

00:43:15.080 to a good point

00:43:15.960 of distinction

00:43:16.400 between

00:43:16.880 the orthodox

00:43:18.520 and esoteric

00:43:20.620 judaic

00:43:21.200 kabbalistic views

00:43:22.240 of creation

00:43:22.960 and of the world

00:43:23.880 and of logos

00:43:24.940 and of control

00:43:26.620 and so

00:43:28.360 I mean

00:43:28.760 in

00:43:29.140 you know

00:43:30.620 going back to

00:43:31.200 Genesis

00:43:31.540 we read in Genesis

00:43:32.600 that

00:43:33.000 the spirit of God

00:43:35.060 floated on

00:43:36.040 you know

00:43:36.500 the waters

00:43:37.240 the chaotic waters

00:43:38.240 and in

00:43:39.900 the

00:43:40.560 kabbalistic view

00:43:41.880 these waters

00:43:42.980 are the flux

00:43:44.340 of material reality

00:43:45.760 this is the

00:43:47.420 the kind of

00:43:48.440 Ein Sof

00:43:49.040 the

00:43:49.320 the basic flux

00:43:51.740 upon which

00:43:52.340 everything else

00:43:52.980 is constructed

00:43:53.660 and built

00:43:54.100 and molded

00:43:54.620 into shape

00:43:55.140 whereas in the

00:43:56.400 orthodox view

00:43:57.440 this

00:43:58.420 primal state

00:43:59.460 of reality

00:43:59.920 is something

00:44:00.360 that is created

00:44:01.040 by Christ

00:44:02.520 created by the

00:44:03.240 holy trinity

00:44:03.740 and then filled

00:44:04.900 with

00:44:05.320 the potential

00:44:06.360 to express

00:44:07.360 all of the

00:44:08.020 creative ideas

00:44:08.800 of God

00:44:09.300 which he then

00:44:10.080 uses this

00:44:11.900 created matter

00:44:12.520 to fashion

00:44:13.000 into

00:44:13.360 whatever shape

00:44:14.480 is pleasing

00:44:15.740 to him

00:44:16.120 and so

00:44:16.760 the

00:44:17.420 sacramental

00:44:18.500 theology

00:44:18.960 then

00:44:19.220 is that

00:44:19.480 when we

00:44:19.720 pass through

00:44:20.200 the baptismal

00:44:20.900 font

00:44:21.180 we are passing

00:44:22.100 through

00:44:22.520 these original

00:44:23.840 waters of

00:44:24.600 creation

00:44:25.000 into a

00:44:25.620 new

00:44:26.420 perfected

00:44:27.200 deified

00:44:27.860 or potentially

00:44:28.580 deified

00:44:29.100 state

00:44:29.500 and so

00:44:30.680 however

00:44:31.880 this view

00:44:33.240 of this

00:44:34.080 kind of

00:44:34.380 created

00:44:34.920 waters of

00:44:37.500 reality

00:44:37.880 and so

00:44:38.240 forth

00:44:38.420 is totally

00:44:38.960 incompatible

00:44:39.720 with the

00:44:40.820 kabbalistic

00:44:41.660 genesis

00:44:42.220 narrative

00:44:42.660 which is

00:44:43.240 what

00:44:43.440 nominalism

00:44:44.320 is based

00:44:44.640 on

00:44:44.860 so

00:44:45.140 father

00:44:45.380 why don't

00:44:45.780 you talk

00:44:46.160 to us

00:44:46.440 a little

00:44:46.660 bit about

00:44:47.080 how

00:44:47.680 nominalism

00:44:48.380 and the

00:44:48.800 idea of

00:44:49.360 tyrannical

00:44:49.820 political

00:44:50.160 control

00:44:50.620 is connected

00:44:51.480 to the

00:44:51.840 idea of

00:44:52.620 finance

00:44:53.500 and alchemy

00:44:54.420 and the

00:44:55.900 technomagus

00:44:56.700 well

00:44:58.600 you

00:44:59.020 introduced

00:44:59.580 a whole

00:44:59.840 bunch

00:45:00.020 of

00:45:00.100 different

00:45:00.340 topics

00:45:00.860 that

00:45:03.260 aren't

00:45:03.440 necessarily

00:45:03.820 related

00:45:04.220 the first

00:45:05.800 thing

00:45:06.020 was the

00:45:06.380 unsoph

00:45:06.820 which is

00:45:07.380 the

00:45:08.320 esoteric

00:45:09.000 notion

00:45:09.300 of what

00:45:09.800 the

00:45:10.040 kabbalists

00:45:10.380 think

00:45:10.560 god

00:45:10.860 is

00:45:11.140 they

00:45:11.960 won't

00:45:12.080 tell

00:45:12.260 you

00:45:12.400 that

00:45:12.720 but

00:45:13.740 manly

00:45:14.460 hall

00:45:14.660 will

00:45:14.800 tell

00:45:14.920 you

00:45:15.040 that

00:45:15.260 and in

00:45:16.040 the

00:45:16.200 upper

00:45:16.440 degrees

00:45:16.800 of

00:45:16.960 masonry

00:45:17.280 and even

00:45:17.540 beyond

00:45:17.840 the

00:45:17.980 33rd

00:45:18.360 degree

00:45:18.620 you

00:45:19.360 come

00:45:19.520 to

00:45:19.640 realize

00:45:19.960 that

00:45:20.440 science

00:45:20.900 is

00:45:21.020 really

00:45:21.140 just

00:45:21.340 the

00:45:21.440 will

00:45:21.560 power

00:45:21.920 the

00:45:24.400 ordered

00:45:24.900 cosmos

00:45:25.300 that

00:45:25.500 you

00:45:25.560 just

00:45:25.740 described

00:45:26.180 is the

00:45:27.400 only

00:45:27.680 possible

00:45:28.160 way

00:45:28.360 that

00:45:28.500 science

00:45:28.720 could

00:45:28.860 function

00:45:29.160 otherwise

00:45:32.300 knowledge

00:45:32.960 is just

00:45:33.360 you know

00:45:33.640 temporary

00:45:34.000 and could

00:45:35.080 immediately

00:45:35.340 be

00:45:35.620 come

00:45:35.940 crashing

00:45:36.240 down

00:45:36.460 tomorrow

00:45:36.820 what

00:45:37.760 was

00:45:38.080 genius

00:45:38.500 science

00:45:38.940 50

00:45:39.180 years

00:45:39.420 ago

00:45:39.580 is

00:45:39.700 laughed

00:45:39.940 at

00:45:40.120 today

00:45:40.400 so

00:45:41.240 I

00:45:41.320 don't

00:45:41.360 know

00:45:41.420 how

00:45:41.540 seriously

00:45:41.800 I'm

00:45:41.980 supposed

00:45:42.160 to

00:45:42.280 take

00:45:42.500 it

00:45:42.980 and

00:45:45.440 then

00:45:45.660 man

00:45:46.020 becomes

00:45:46.300 god

00:45:46.580 in the

00:45:46.800 sense

00:45:47.080 as

00:45:47.760 Nietzsche

00:45:47.960 would

00:45:48.160 say

00:45:48.400 Nietzsche

00:45:48.680 gave

00:45:48.900 away

00:45:49.060 the

00:45:49.200 secrets

00:45:49.540 because

00:45:52.240 Nietzsche

00:45:52.440 believes

00:45:52.680 in the

00:45:52.860 flux

00:45:53.080 as

00:45:53.240 well

00:45:53.420 that

00:45:54.480 what

00:45:55.020 we

00:45:55.320 pin

00:45:55.960 down

00:45:56.300 what

00:45:56.580 we

00:45:56.860 what

00:45:57.300 we

00:45:57.560 make

00:45:58.280 out

00:45:58.480 of

00:45:58.560 this

00:45:58.700 flux

00:45:59.020 comes

00:45:59.920 from

00:46:00.100 raw

00:46:00.360 power

00:46:00.740 control

00:46:01.740 over

00:46:01.980 institutions

00:46:02.500 comes

00:46:02.820 from

00:46:03.000 will

00:46:03.200 comes

00:46:03.400 from

00:46:03.540 drive

00:46:03.900 nominalism

00:46:05.960 can only

00:46:06.480 function

00:46:06.880 with

00:46:07.160 the

00:46:07.280 passions

00:46:07.640 no

00:46:08.960 one

00:46:09.120 ever

00:46:09.420 lusted

00:46:10.500 after

00:46:10.800 the

00:46:11.060 form

00:46:11.460 of

00:46:11.580 a

00:46:11.660 woman

00:46:11.840 only

00:46:13.100 the

00:46:13.360 actual

00:46:13.740 flesh

00:46:14.120 and

00:46:14.220 blood

00:46:14.340 woman

00:46:14.540 that's

00:46:15.300 the

00:46:15.440 realm

00:46:15.620 of

00:46:15.760 desire

00:46:16.060 Plato

00:46:16.380 said

00:46:16.620 as

00:46:16.760 much

00:46:16.980 so

00:46:18.960 the

00:46:19.220 nominal

00:46:19.480 entity

00:46:19.840 is

00:46:20.360 connected

00:46:20.600 with

00:46:20.760 desire

00:46:21.120 as

00:46:21.500 Plato

00:46:21.660 would

00:46:21.820 say

00:46:22.040 the

00:46:23.960 form

00:46:25.000 is

00:46:25.680 connected

00:46:25.900 with

00:46:26.060 reason

00:46:26.380 not

00:46:27.060 logic

00:46:27.380 necessarily

00:46:27.860 because

00:46:28.560 you can

00:46:28.720 be an

00:46:28.920 animal

00:46:29.220 who's

00:46:29.460 logical

00:46:29.700 all the

00:46:29.920 time

00:46:30.200 that's

00:46:31.040 not the

00:46:31.200 same

00:46:31.340 thing

00:46:31.480 as

00:46:31.620 reason

00:46:31.960 you know

00:46:33.460 so

00:46:35.600 so

00:46:35.900 so

00:46:37.060 that's

00:46:37.300 that's

00:46:37.320 that's

00:46:37.500 that's

00:46:37.520 that entity

00:46:37.940 you know

00:46:38.380 that's

00:46:38.720 what

00:46:38.800 they

00:46:38.900 that's

00:46:39.120 what

00:46:39.200 they

00:46:39.300 think

00:46:39.520 god

00:46:39.800 is

00:46:40.080 man

00:46:40.840 is

00:46:40.980 god

00:46:41.280 and

00:46:41.420 he

00:46:41.500 ended up

00:46:41.920 being

00:46:42.680 servants

00:46:43.760 to

00:46:43.900 prometheus

00:46:44.420 the

00:46:44.980 19th degree

00:46:45.640 consecrate

00:46:46.760 yourself

00:46:47.080 to him

00:46:47.640 and

00:46:48.460 the

00:46:48.580 god

00:46:48.780 set

00:46:49.140 in

00:46:49.600 the

00:46:49.860 Egyptian

00:46:50.560 calendar

00:46:51.500 at least

00:46:53.000 according to

00:46:53.300 Manley Hall's

00:46:53.820 masonic element

00:46:54.500 the degrees

00:46:55.900 that

00:46:56.220 Aleister Crowley

00:46:56.920 came up with

00:46:58.020 continues to

00:46:58.400 develop

00:46:58.620 this

00:46:58.800 idea

00:46:59.020 creation

00:46:59.980 doesn't

00:47:00.380 exist

00:47:00.740 what we

00:47:01.940 think is

00:47:02.240 out there

00:47:02.700 are our

00:47:03.100 own

00:47:03.220 projection

00:47:03.600 but in

00:47:03.940 reality

00:47:04.300 it's a

00:47:04.980 projection

00:47:05.280 of the

00:47:05.620 elite

00:47:05.840 and we

00:47:07.220 think it's

00:47:07.460 our own

00:47:07.820 so that's

00:47:08.980 the first

00:47:09.360 thing he

00:47:09.600 mentioned

00:47:09.840 now the

00:47:11.400 second

00:47:11.580 thing is

00:47:12.300 alchemy

00:47:12.700 of course

00:47:15.000 as Michael

00:47:15.360 Hoffman always

00:47:15.880 says

00:47:16.200 alchemy had

00:47:17.560 nothing to do

00:47:18.020 with turning

00:47:18.300 lead into

00:47:18.620 gold

00:47:18.900 that was

00:47:20.100 the

00:47:20.220 exoteric

00:47:20.880 you know

00:47:21.500 thing you

00:47:22.180 tell you

00:47:22.860 know

00:47:22.980 high school

00:47:23.360 students

00:47:23.740 it's about

00:47:25.100 people

00:47:25.460 they're

00:47:27.340 gold and

00:47:27.820 lead in

00:47:28.080 people

00:47:28.360 we're

00:47:28.580 lead in

00:47:28.920 people

00:47:29.160 according to

00:47:29.620 them

00:47:29.820 followers

00:47:31.240 of

00:47:31.400 Saturn

00:47:31.680 the

00:47:33.760 lead in

00:47:34.260 lead in

00:47:34.680 god

00:47:34.920 dead

00:47:36.060 the

00:47:36.760 salted

00:47:37.060 earth

00:47:37.380 the

00:47:38.080 scorched

00:47:38.400 earth

00:47:38.640 from the

00:47:39.240 star

00:47:39.420 Sirius

00:47:39.860 there's

00:47:40.080 nothing

00:47:40.340 you know

00:47:40.700 nothing

00:47:40.900 grows

00:47:41.220 there

00:47:41.440 that's

00:47:42.560 what we

00:47:42.820 are

00:47:43.040 the

00:47:44.160 alchemical

00:47:44.420 idea

00:47:45.560 is that

00:47:46.500 there is

00:47:46.800 no

00:47:46.920 creation

00:47:47.320 we have

00:47:48.900 to

00:47:49.140 use

00:47:49.840 quick

00:47:50.720 silver

00:47:51.040 of course

00:47:51.900 a symbolism

00:47:52.320 for

00:47:52.540 ideology

00:47:52.960 and

00:47:53.680 revolution

00:47:54.080 to break

00:47:55.400 down

00:47:55.660 barriers

00:47:56.120 between

00:47:56.480 objects

00:47:56.880 including

00:47:57.300 our

00:47:57.440 own

00:47:57.580 cells

00:47:57.880 and

00:47:59.120 then

00:47:59.420 with

00:47:59.920 this

00:48:00.140 small

00:48:00.440 elite

00:48:00.740 vanguard

00:48:01.380 party

00:48:02.120 resurrected

00:48:03.560 again

00:48:03.980 in a

00:48:06.480 brand new

00:48:07.100 epistemological

00:48:07.800 world

00:48:08.140 with new

00:48:09.240 objects

00:48:09.680 and new

00:48:10.120 meanings

00:48:10.400 and everything

00:48:10.820 else

00:48:11.200 never once

00:48:12.420 forgetting

00:48:12.780 that there

00:48:14.920 really is

00:48:15.220 nothing out

00:48:15.680 there

00:48:15.960 the only

00:48:18.660 question I

00:48:19.060 have is

00:48:19.620 do demons

00:48:20.520 know this

00:48:21.060 or are they

00:48:22.220 just playing

00:48:23.060 with people

00:48:23.880 they may not

00:48:24.500 know this

00:48:25.360 because

00:48:27.780 when

00:48:28.480 Satan

00:48:28.780 tried to

00:48:30.020 tempt

00:48:31.160 Christ

00:48:31.520 he didn't

00:48:32.520 seem to

00:48:32.780 know what

00:48:32.980 he was

00:48:33.160 dealing

00:48:33.340 with

00:48:33.560 he

00:48:34.780 wasn't

00:48:34.980 able to

00:48:35.280 see

00:48:35.500 either

00:48:35.840 the

00:48:35.980 human

00:48:36.140 nature

00:48:36.360 or the

00:48:36.580 divine

00:48:36.800 nature

00:48:37.060 there

00:48:37.300 he

00:48:38.560 just

00:48:38.760 saw

00:48:39.080 a

00:48:39.480 one

00:48:40.940 more

00:48:41.140 desiring

00:48:41.600 person

00:48:42.040 just like

00:48:42.340 him

00:48:42.580 and how

00:48:43.640 he could

00:48:43.820 tempt

00:48:43.980 you

00:48:44.100 with

00:48:44.220 power

00:48:44.520 this

00:48:46.080 is why

00:48:46.260 the

00:48:46.380 fathers

00:48:46.600 say

00:48:46.940 they

00:48:47.300 don't

00:48:47.420 know

00:48:47.500 what

00:48:47.600 to

00:48:47.680 do

00:48:47.900 when

00:48:48.100 they're

00:48:48.220 faced

00:48:48.380 with

00:48:48.520 humility

00:48:48.840 what

00:48:50.160 do

00:48:50.240 you

00:48:50.260 mean

00:48:50.340 you

00:48:50.420 don't

00:48:50.520 want

00:48:50.660 power

00:48:50.940 what

00:48:51.120 do

00:48:51.160 you

00:48:51.200 want

00:48:51.480 these

00:48:51.640 things

00:48:51.960 you

00:48:52.720 have

00:48:52.820 to

00:48:52.860 be

00:48:52.940 insane

00:48:53.360 and

00:48:56.600 which

00:48:56.780 was the

00:48:57.420 common

00:48:57.680 claim

00:48:58.080 in the

00:48:58.240 Soviet

00:48:58.400 Union

00:48:58.700 so

00:49:00.560 alchemy

00:49:00.940 is based

00:49:01.700 on this

00:49:02.100 very same

00:49:02.500 idea

00:49:02.860 that there

00:49:03.740 is actually

00:49:04.080 nothing

00:49:04.400 out there

00:49:04.860 what

00:49:05.940 exists

00:49:06.340 are just

00:49:07.460 man-made

00:49:08.200 concepts

00:49:08.700 that

00:49:09.640 revolution

00:49:10.160 or

00:49:10.400 quicksilver

00:49:10.880 mercury

00:49:11.820 will break

00:49:13.140 down

00:49:13.420 in the

00:49:14.780 red

00:49:14.960 fire

00:49:15.340 consummation

00:49:17.400 of all

00:49:17.680 things

00:49:17.900 but out

00:49:18.240 of that

00:49:18.600 the

00:49:19.020 phoenix

00:49:19.280 gets

00:49:19.520 reborn

00:49:19.900 and

00:49:21.400 the

00:49:21.980 new

00:49:22.160 order

00:49:22.420 is

00:49:22.680 found

00:49:23.220 it's

00:49:24.140 just

00:49:24.300 as

00:49:24.400 artificial

00:49:24.660 as

00:49:24.860 the

00:49:24.940 old

00:49:25.100 order

00:49:25.380 as

00:49:26.260 Nietzsche

00:49:26.440 would

00:49:26.560 say

00:49:26.780 but

00:49:28.280 it's

00:49:31.840 more to

00:49:32.240 their

00:49:32.340 liking

00:49:32.600 and

00:49:33.940 this

00:49:34.080 is

00:49:34.200 why

00:49:34.480 the

00:49:34.980 god

00:49:35.260 set

00:49:35.540 where

00:49:35.820 we

00:49:35.920 get

00:49:36.020 the

00:49:36.140 word

00:49:36.260 satan

00:49:36.540 from

00:49:36.760 was

00:49:37.840 the

00:49:38.820 demon

00:49:40.600 he

00:49:40.940 really

00:49:41.160 functioned

00:49:41.660 just like

00:49:41.960 any

00:49:42.100 other

00:49:42.260 demon

00:49:42.440 did

00:49:42.660 the

00:49:43.420 god

00:49:43.540 of

00:49:43.640 confusion

00:49:44.020 the

00:49:44.240 god

00:49:44.460 of

00:49:44.620 breaking

00:49:44.940 down

00:49:45.240 boundaries

00:49:45.600 he

00:49:45.720 was

00:49:45.780 a

00:49:45.860 hermaphrodite

00:49:47.140 set

00:49:48.260 was

00:49:48.780 everything

00:49:51.360 that

00:49:51.700 the

00:49:51.860 alchemical

00:49:52.620 mind

00:49:53.260 is

00:49:53.700 triphon

00:49:55.000 in

00:49:56.240 in

00:49:57.080 greece

00:49:57.360 so

00:49:59.380 so

00:49:59.820 they're

00:50:00.040 related

00:50:00.260 but

00:50:00.420 they're

00:50:00.680 unrelated

00:50:00.940 but

00:50:02.040 that's

00:50:02.220 really

00:50:02.340 what

00:50:02.460 alchemy

00:50:02.700 is

00:50:03.020 and

00:50:03.220 they're

00:50:03.320 talking

00:50:03.560 about

00:50:03.800 manipulating

00:50:04.180 people

00:50:04.560 and

00:50:05.600 we're

00:50:05.740 talking

00:50:05.980 about

00:50:06.160 as we

00:50:06.320 said

00:50:06.440 before

00:50:06.760 the

00:50:07.380 absolute

00:50:07.740 foundational

00:50:08.360 consciousness

00:50:08.940 of

00:50:09.840 what

00:50:09.980 is

00:50:10.140 real

00:50:10.420 what's

00:50:10.640 an

00:50:10.720 object

00:50:11.100 what

00:50:12.460 makes

00:50:12.700 sense

00:50:12.880 what

00:50:12.980 doesn't

00:50:13.160 make

00:50:13.300 sense

00:50:13.520 that's

00:50:14.440 what's

00:50:14.640 being

00:50:14.880 created

00:50:15.380 a whole

00:50:15.980 mind

00:50:16.380 is being

00:50:17.260 recreated

00:50:17.600 broken down

00:50:18.180 it has to be

00:50:18.560 broken down

00:50:18.920 first

00:50:19.220 and then

00:50:19.940 put back

00:50:20.340 together

00:50:20.660 by

00:50:21.560 this

00:50:22.100 regime

00:50:22.420 on the

00:50:23.300 other

00:50:23.400 hand

00:50:23.580 we have

00:50:23.960 to be

00:50:24.120 isolated

00:50:24.440 from

00:50:24.680 that

00:50:24.920 break

00:50:25.940 down

00:50:26.140 the

00:50:26.280 old

00:50:26.440 man

00:50:26.660 but put

00:50:26.920 it

00:50:27.000 together

00:50:27.200 with

00:50:27.340 Christ

00:50:27.600 in

00:50:27.780 mind

00:50:28.000 which

00:50:28.940 in

00:50:29.040 this

00:50:29.160 day

00:50:29.320 and age

00:50:29.740 requires

00:50:30.800 isolation

00:50:31.280 it

00:50:32.460 requires

00:50:32.900 living a

00:50:33.760 life

00:50:33.980 that makes

00:50:34.460 us look

00:50:34.700 like

00:50:34.840 freaks

00:50:35.020 of

00:50:35.120 nature

00:50:35.320 but

00:50:36.280 we have

00:50:36.900 no

00:50:37.000 choice

00:50:37.220 in

00:50:37.300 the

00:50:37.360 matter

00:50:37.540 right

00:50:40.100 and I

00:50:40.460 think

00:50:40.600 that

00:50:40.720 the

00:50:41.180 point

00:50:42.940 of

00:50:43.380 concentricity

00:50:46.300 between

00:50:46.560 the two

00:50:46.840 that I

00:50:47.100 wanted to

00:50:47.440 elaborate

00:50:47.820 was that

00:50:48.380 it's

00:50:49.160 this

00:50:49.360 cosmological

00:50:50.020 idea

00:50:50.580 that

00:50:51.200 order

00:50:51.820 proceeds

00:50:52.320 from

00:50:52.560 chaos

00:50:53.020 and that

00:50:53.580 the

00:50:53.740 foundational

00:50:54.140 state

00:50:54.580 of the

00:50:54.940 universe

00:50:55.240 is

00:50:55.500 flux

00:50:55.840 it

00:50:56.100 is

00:50:56.240 chaos

00:50:56.560 and

00:50:56.800 then

00:50:56.920 order

00:50:57.160 has

00:50:57.380 to

00:50:57.500 be

00:50:57.940 projected

00:50:58.360 onto

00:50:58.660 it

00:50:59.060 which

00:51:00.320 as

00:51:00.440 we've

00:51:00.600 just

00:51:00.740 gone

00:51:01.140 through

00:51:01.360 and

00:51:01.500 exposed

00:51:01.780 is

00:51:02.020 totally

00:51:02.740 nonsense

00:51:03.180 because

00:51:03.660 how can

00:51:04.080 you

00:51:04.340 come

00:51:05.040 to

00:51:05.200 have

00:51:05.400 an

00:51:05.560 ordered

00:51:05.920 view

00:51:06.480 of

00:51:06.720 a

00:51:06.820 disordered

00:51:07.180 universe

00:51:07.680 out

00:51:08.360 of

00:51:08.480 nothing

00:51:08.740 if

00:51:09.520 matter

00:51:10.280 and

00:51:10.520 the

00:51:10.620 universe

00:51:10.840 tends

00:51:11.120 towards

00:51:11.620 disorder

00:51:12.180 right

00:51:12.560 um

00:51:14.220 you know

00:51:14.640 it

00:51:14.820 it's

00:51:15.960 kind

00:51:16.100 of

00:51:16.200 like

00:51:16.440 well

00:51:17.680 even

00:51:17.880 with

00:51:18.020 like

00:51:18.120 original

00:51:18.460 sin

00:51:18.780 I mean

00:51:19.080 like

00:51:19.280 an

00:51:19.400 appeal

00:51:19.680 to

00:51:19.980 you know

00:51:20.560 as

00:51:20.720 you

00:51:20.820 say

00:51:21.000 an

00:51:21.160 appeal

00:51:21.360 to

00:51:21.540 original

00:51:21.880 sin

00:51:22.240 necessitates

00:51:23.060 that

00:51:23.260 there

00:51:23.400 is

00:51:23.760 some

00:51:24.640 superlative

00:51:27.740 overarching

00:51:29.200 perfect

00:51:30.160 perfect

00:51:30.480 state

00:51:30.820 some

00:51:31.280 ideal

00:51:31.640 form

00:51:31.980 that

00:51:32.140 man

00:51:32.340 can

00:51:32.500 be

00:51:32.660 in

00:51:32.780 that

00:51:32.900 corruption

00:51:33.260 deviates

00:51:33.800 him

00:51:33.980 from

00:51:34.240 evil

00:51:35.160 necessitates

00:51:35.880 the

00:51:36.100 reality

00:51:36.520 of

00:51:37.180 some

00:51:37.420 good

00:51:37.720 and

00:51:38.960 so on

00:51:39.420 and

00:51:41.460 so

00:51:41.660 I think

00:51:42.940 what you

00:51:43.100 mean is

00:51:43.400 that

00:51:43.640 I think

00:51:44.760 you said

00:51:45.020 it

00:51:45.180 that

00:51:45.940 for there

00:51:46.500 to be

00:51:46.700 chaos

00:51:47.100 for the

00:51:47.360 end

00:51:47.500 self

00:51:47.660 to be

00:51:47.880 real

00:51:48.120 there

00:51:48.320 has to

00:51:48.540 be

00:51:48.640 something

00:51:48.980 that

00:51:49.540 chaos

00:51:50.060 is derived

00:51:50.660 from

00:51:50.940 in order

00:51:51.760 to be

00:51:51.840 chaos

00:51:54.340 from

00:51:55.260 something

00:51:55.660 you know

00:51:56.900 you have to

00:51:57.160 have a

00:51:57.340 unity

00:51:57.540 before you

00:51:57.900 have

00:51:58.080 multiplicity

00:51:58.560 it

00:51:58.700 doesn't

00:51:58.860 make

00:51:59.000 sense

00:51:59.240 multiplicity

00:51:59.700 only

00:51:59.860 makes

00:52:00.080 sense

00:52:00.380 if it

00:52:00.980 comes

00:52:01.120 from

00:52:01.240 unity

00:52:01.560 chaos

00:52:02.960 is a

00:52:04.460 demonic

00:52:04.700 projection

00:52:05.180 some of

00:52:06.560 the

00:52:06.640 satanists

00:52:06.940 used to

00:52:07.180 say

00:52:07.340 that

00:52:07.500 he is

00:52:08.500 the

00:52:08.660 constructor

00:52:09.800 of my

00:52:10.180 world

00:52:10.580 said

00:52:11.380 it's

00:52:11.560 the

00:52:11.660 god

00:52:11.800 of

00:52:11.920 confusion

00:52:12.340 because

00:52:14.220 demons

00:52:14.700 are

00:52:15.400 they're

00:52:15.700 not

00:52:16.000 as

00:52:16.300 rational

00:52:16.720 as

00:52:16.860 everyone

00:52:17.040 thinks

00:52:17.300 they are

00:52:17.640 they're

00:52:18.560 consumed

00:52:19.340 with

00:52:19.700 passion

00:52:20.100 and desire

00:52:20.780 for rule

00:52:21.860 for power

00:52:22.340 they make

00:52:22.680 mistakes

00:52:23.080 just like

00:52:23.380 the new

00:52:23.560 world order

00:52:23.900 does

00:52:24.160 they make

00:52:24.800 mistakes

00:52:25.060 all the

00:52:25.280 time

00:52:25.560 they're

00:52:25.820 not

00:52:25.980 these

00:52:26.160 all

00:52:26.300 powerful

00:52:26.620 beings

00:52:27.080 some

00:52:28.080 of

00:52:28.160 the

00:52:28.240 preachers

00:52:28.540 will

00:52:28.760 have

00:52:29.500 you

00:52:29.620 believe

00:52:29.920 they

00:52:30.280 can

00:52:30.400 be

00:52:30.500 very

00:52:30.680 stupid

00:52:31.000 and

00:52:31.920 it's

00:52:32.040 because

00:52:32.380 they

00:52:32.700 can't

00:52:33.060 see

00:52:33.360 order

00:52:33.780 in

00:52:33.920 nature

00:52:34.140 their

00:52:34.300 whole

00:52:34.500 world

00:52:34.820 is

00:52:35.000 chaos

00:52:35.360 their

00:52:35.980 minds

00:52:36.460 demons

00:52:37.020 minds

00:52:37.360 are

00:52:37.520 constantly

00:52:37.960 in

00:52:38.200 chaos

00:52:38.540 and

00:52:39.820 they

00:52:40.000 can't

00:52:40.360 see

00:52:40.580 this

00:52:40.760 is

00:52:40.880 why

00:52:41.060 he

00:52:41.200 didn't

00:52:41.440 know

00:52:41.740 when

00:52:41.980 he

00:52:42.080 went

00:52:42.240 up

00:52:42.340 to

00:52:42.440 Christ

00:52:42.680 he

00:52:42.800 didn't

00:52:42.900 know

00:52:43.300 even

00:52:44.100 the

00:52:44.520 liturgical

00:52:45.740 tradition

00:52:46.040 of the

00:52:46.240 church

00:52:46.460 says

00:52:46.720 when

00:52:46.840 death

00:52:47.020 received

00:52:47.380 Christ

00:52:47.680 it

00:52:47.820 didn't

00:52:47.960 know

00:52:48.080 what

00:52:48.200 to

00:52:48.320 do

00:52:57.080 satan

00:52:59.760 can't

00:53:00.080 see

00:53:00.260 these

00:53:00.500 things

00:53:00.840 he

00:53:01.420 can't

00:53:01.700 see

00:53:01.820 essences

00:53:02.260 you

00:53:04.140 know

00:53:04.300 he

00:53:04.580 may

00:53:04.860 and

00:53:05.180 this

00:53:05.340 is

00:53:05.460 why

00:53:05.580 this

00:53:05.720 is

00:53:05.820 such

00:53:06.020 a

00:53:06.200 blatantly

00:53:06.680 demonic

00:53:07.080 clearly

00:53:07.480 demonic

00:53:07.840 rule

00:53:08.780 he

00:53:09.920 doesn't

00:53:10.420 understand

00:53:10.820 this

00:53:11.060 because

00:53:11.340 he

00:53:11.560 is

00:53:11.740 consumed

00:53:12.240 with

00:53:12.740 desire

00:53:13.620 desire

00:53:14.180 for

00:53:14.340 power

00:53:14.680 desire

00:53:14.920 for

00:53:15.060 control

00:53:15.460 hatred

00:53:16.380 of

00:53:16.560 God

00:53:16.800 whatever

00:53:17.040 it

00:53:17.180 is

00:53:17.400 just

00:53:17.580 these

00:53:17.800 passions

00:53:18.280 demons

00:53:19.540 live

00:53:19.740 in a

00:53:19.920 constant

00:53:20.140 world

00:53:20.320 of

00:53:20.440 chaos

00:53:20.700 this

00:53:20.900 is

00:53:21.000 why

00:53:21.160 their

00:53:21.280 life

00:53:21.460 sucks

00:53:21.720 so

00:53:21.900 bit

00:53:22.060 is

00:53:23.740 Satan

00:53:24.120 happy

00:53:24.480 he

00:53:25.680 rules

00:53:25.900 over

00:53:26.040 this

00:53:26.180 kingdom

00:53:26.440 right

00:53:26.720 no

00:53:27.220 because

00:53:28.140 he

00:53:28.340 constantly

00:53:28.920 his

00:53:29.420 mind

00:53:30.000 is

00:53:30.180 a

00:53:30.340 swirl

00:53:30.780 of

00:53:31.680 passion

00:53:31.980 that

00:53:32.480 has

00:53:32.820 no

00:53:33.180 terminus

00:53:33.960 he

00:53:34.920 can't

00:53:35.340 see

00:53:35.520 essences

00:53:35.840 in

00:53:36.080 things

00:53:36.340 and

00:53:38.260 St.

00:53:39.360 Anthony

00:53:39.540 for example

00:53:40.100 makes fun

00:53:40.840 of the

00:53:41.000 demons

00:53:41.260 in

00:53:43.040 St.

00:53:43.200 Athanasius

00:53:43.580 autobiography

00:53:45.300 of his

00:53:45.620 because they

00:53:47.020 change shape

00:53:47.500 all the

00:53:47.720 time

00:53:47.940 they

00:53:48.360 become

00:53:48.940 a

00:53:49.400 spider

00:53:49.620 they

00:53:49.820 become

00:53:50.080 a

00:53:50.420 scorpion

00:53:50.740 and

00:53:51.640 you

00:53:52.760 understand

00:53:53.080 that

00:53:53.280 the symbolism

00:53:54.300 there

00:53:54.620 is that

00:53:54.940 they don't

00:53:55.240 really

00:53:55.420 have

00:53:55.800 a stable

00:53:56.900 persona

00:53:57.320 they

00:53:58.100 make

00:53:58.280 themselves

00:53:58.620 whatever

00:53:58.800 they

00:53:58.960 think

00:53:59.220 is

00:53:59.420 going

00:53:59.520 to

00:53:59.620 frighten

00:53:59.860 you

00:54:00.000 they

00:54:00.540 rule

00:54:00.860 by

00:54:01.120 turning

00:54:01.420 themselves

00:54:01.700 into

00:54:01.840 something

00:54:02.120 a fantasy

00:54:02.560 an image

00:54:03.000 some scary

00:54:03.780 thing

00:54:04.140 something that

00:54:04.800 frightens you

00:54:05.340 whatever it might be

00:54:06.760 maybe not as blatant as a spider

00:54:08.320 but something you know

00:54:09.680 some fear

00:54:10.720 fear of death

00:54:11.280 fear of nothingness

00:54:12.460 and you construct your world

00:54:14.660 based on this fear

00:54:15.880 this desire

00:54:16.440 and reason just becomes pure logic

00:54:19.300 and rationalization

00:54:20.100 after that

00:54:20.560 no Satan is unhappy

00:54:22.200 Satan wouldn't know how to be happy

00:54:24.260 he's not stable enough for that

00:54:25.500 so

00:54:26.840 the world that we live in

00:54:29.400 is quite literally the projection

00:54:31.720 of demonic entities

00:54:34.060 mediated through the titans

00:54:36.320 in the old Greek sense of the world

00:54:38.300 titans of industry

00:54:39.020 but also the titans of the Old Testament

00:54:41.560 you know

00:54:41.940 the

00:54:42.360 so called giants

00:54:44.100 but

00:54:46.180 one thing they all have in common

00:54:47.580 is a very

00:54:49.040 lack of

00:54:49.720 they're logical

00:54:50.260 but they don't have reason

00:54:51.840 they can't see stable essences

00:54:53.700 and things

00:54:54.120 and that's why they're miserable

00:54:55.360 St. John Chrysostom says

00:54:56.540 I don't care how wealthy they are

00:54:58.660 I don't care how powerful they are

00:54:59.920 they have desires

00:55:01.000 that can never get money

00:55:01.880 it's never enough for them

00:55:03.160 why don't the Rockefellers

00:55:05.140 just retire on an island

00:55:05.960 they don't have enough money

00:55:06.820 no

00:55:07.520 they want more and more

00:55:08.260 they never stop

00:55:08.860 they're never happy

00:55:10.300 that's why the

00:55:12.240 modern world is based on

00:55:13.540 constant motion

00:55:14.340 constant confusion

00:55:15.280 constant flux

00:55:16.000 and this is based

00:55:18.100 this goes back to ancient Egypt

00:55:19.160 and the rule of set

00:55:20.400 and the origin of

00:55:22.080 of Satan

00:55:22.720 Satan as an actual being

00:55:23.700 in ancient Egypt

00:55:24.640 taking that form

00:55:25.720 uh

00:55:26.720 set Anubis

00:55:27.260 uh

00:55:27.780 you know

00:55:28.120 with a dog head

00:55:29.120 and in connection with

00:55:29.980 the dog star of Sirius

00:55:30.860 um

00:55:31.960 and

00:55:33.120 and um

00:55:33.780 and this is

00:55:34.600 this is a concept

00:55:35.260 it's

00:55:35.720 but once we understand the truth

00:55:37.300 and Plato

00:55:39.440 for me

00:55:39.980 was the very first person

00:55:40.860 to bring me to that

00:55:41.500 and Justin Martyr as well

00:55:43.420 many others

00:55:43.920 and Athanasius

00:55:44.520 uh

00:55:45.600 and you connect yourself

00:55:46.920 with stable essences

00:55:47.800 and logos

00:55:48.300 that's our immunization

00:55:50.140 uh

00:55:51.840 against the demonic world

00:55:52.840 of confusion and misery

00:55:53.700 but you know

00:55:55.240 we live in that world

00:55:56.000 most of the time

00:55:56.640 you know

00:55:58.080 even the best of Orthodox people

00:55:59.420 still live in that chaotic flux

00:56:00.940 and it sucks

00:56:01.620 yeah absolutely

00:56:03.760 maybe we could talk a little bit

00:56:05.180 about um

00:56:06.100 triadic psychology

00:56:07.800 and um

00:56:09.040 Hegel's

00:56:09.960 philosophy of dialectic

00:56:11.580 and last time

00:56:12.820 when we were having this discussion

00:56:13.940 we talked about how

00:56:14.940 demons are unable to

00:56:16.180 count to three

00:56:17.040 because

00:56:17.900 of their inability

00:56:19.400 to perceive

00:56:20.220 the Holy Trinity

00:56:21.600 essentially

00:56:22.040 and this is

00:56:23.120 what nominalism is

00:56:24.080 there's no

00:56:24.600 third element

00:56:25.720 uh

00:56:26.500 to give context

00:56:27.500 and meaning

00:56:28.040 to

00:56:28.480 their will

00:56:29.680 and their ego

00:56:30.360 and then the forces

00:56:31.620 of the passions

00:56:32.640 of the

00:56:33.680 that

00:56:34.400 envelop the world around them

00:56:35.920 in which they live

00:56:36.500 which they are dominated by

00:56:37.720 and so the only reality

00:56:39.000 that exists for

00:56:39.880 a demon

00:56:40.320 is the relationship

00:56:41.360 between his ego

00:56:42.920 and his desires

00:56:43.880 and all of the

00:56:44.820 constraining factors

00:56:45.740 of the orders

00:56:46.580 of the

00:56:46.980 of the world

00:56:47.720 around him

00:56:48.260 which

00:56:48.980 uh

00:56:49.720 stop him

00:56:50.360 from fulfilling that

00:56:51.220 which frustrate him

00:56:52.120 and so his whole existence

00:56:53.280 is

00:56:53.820 merely the interplay

00:56:55.560 and the struggle

00:56:56.220 the flux

00:56:56.840 is the term we keep using

00:56:57.920 between these two realities

00:56:59.580 and so the

00:57:00.600 that's why

00:57:01.180 they're

00:57:01.360 they're

00:57:01.740 these demons

00:57:02.280 are interested in

00:57:03.300 breaking down

00:57:04.440 the order of God

00:57:05.920 on earth

00:57:06.200 destroying

00:57:06.700 whatever image

00:57:07.780 of the kingdom

00:57:08.180 of heaven

00:57:08.660 uh

00:57:09.420 exists in the cosmos

00:57:10.660 so that they can

00:57:11.860 have a

00:57:13.100 they can remove

00:57:14.120 these barriers

00:57:14.700 to the fulfillment

00:57:15.460 of their passions

00:57:16.560 so uh

00:57:17.640 father

00:57:17.840 we

00:57:18.180 you went into this

00:57:19.080 with some

00:57:19.600 um

00:57:20.400 some lucidity

00:57:22.040 last time

00:57:22.960 especially concerning

00:57:24.460 Hegel's

00:57:24.940 um

00:57:25.320 uh

00:57:27.220 Hegel's philosophy

00:57:27.900 well Hegel was one of the

00:57:29.520 great spiritual philosophers

00:57:30.940 of the 19th century

00:57:32.060 um

00:57:33.480 and

00:57:34.680 he was very influential

00:57:36.000 in Orthodox Russian

00:57:36.820 Ivan Alin for example

00:57:38.140 was a

00:57:38.780 was a long time

00:57:39.420 student of his

00:57:40.060 uh

00:57:41.460 even the Slavophiles

00:57:42.360 take quite a bit

00:57:43.320 from

00:57:43.560 from this idea

00:57:44.520 demons can only count to two

00:57:45.960 all they see is

00:57:47.980 A equals A

00:57:48.780 that's the Ayn Rand

00:57:50.400 nominalist

00:57:51.120 I mean

00:57:51.400 nominalist and

00:57:52.280 and objectivist formula

00:57:53.460 that's all they know

00:57:55.100 is the ego

00:57:56.260 isolated

00:57:57.200 perceiving

00:57:58.860 the

00:57:59.460 the object of their desire

00:58:00.760 and that's it

00:58:01.740 everything else is coercion

00:58:03.560 everything else is creating

00:58:05.300 some scam

00:58:06.100 to get to it

00:58:07.180 of course the problem is

00:58:09.000 when they get to it

00:58:09.680 they just want another one

00:58:10.880 and it never ends

00:58:12.440 so the whole thing is based on a lie

00:58:14.160 Plato dedicated most of his

00:58:16.200 philosophy to this

00:58:17.180 you can't

00:58:18.020 you can't base things on

00:58:19.780 on pleasures

00:58:20.520 that come from

00:58:22.260 you know

00:58:23.060 the

00:58:23.540 gaining of power

00:58:24.920 gaining of these kind of things

00:58:25.900 um

00:58:26.820 there has to be a

00:58:27.500 a cause beyond that

00:58:28.540 and when Socrates is

00:58:30.240 interviewing these people

00:58:31.100 uh

00:58:32.200 you know

00:58:32.480 whether it be generals

00:58:33.060 or politicians

00:58:33.820 and

00:58:34.100 and he's trying to get them

00:58:35.200 to say

00:58:35.560 well what

00:58:36.200 so you have power

00:58:36.900 so you can do what

00:58:37.660 with it

00:58:38.100 so what's

00:58:39.480 what's the final end here

00:58:40.480 you have freedom

00:58:41.460 so you can do what

00:58:42.360 you know

00:58:43.740 it can't just be

00:58:44.200 for whatever you want

00:58:45.020 well then

00:58:45.600 why should I take it

00:58:46.520 seriously then

00:58:47.060 what's so good about it

00:58:49.280 you know

00:58:49.800 why should I trust me

00:58:50.600 whatever you want

00:58:51.080 who cares

00:58:51.540 what is this for

00:58:53.140 and that's why

00:58:54.500 they killed them

00:58:55.060 because they could never answer

00:58:55.760 and he exposed them

00:58:57.340 as frogs

00:58:57.760 it's all the same concept

00:58:59.920 it's they're consumed

00:59:01.060 absolutely with

00:59:01.880 with desire

00:59:02.540 um

00:59:03.980 Hegel

00:59:04.860 um

00:59:06.340 recognized this problem

00:59:07.520 and in his rejection

00:59:09.220 of nominalism

00:59:09.820 his rejection of

00:59:10.580 of um

00:59:11.320 you know

00:59:12.380 what I said

00:59:12.700 you know

00:59:12.880 last time

00:59:13.380 and what I've written

00:59:14.120 and all this stuff

00:59:14.940 I've done so much work

00:59:15.720 on Hegel over the years

00:59:16.580 it's just

00:59:16.900 it's too much

00:59:17.640 to do it here

00:59:18.440 but

00:59:19.620 um

00:59:21.060 there's always three things

00:59:22.420 in any act of knowledge

00:59:23.420 there's

00:59:25.040 the

00:59:25.560 the self

00:59:26.100 there's the object

00:59:27.040 and then there's the context

00:59:28.180 and the dialectic

00:59:30.360 is how

00:59:31.000 these are always

00:59:31.920 um

00:59:33.000 informing one another

00:59:35.040 the form of the thing

00:59:36.960 affects the content

00:59:38.180 and history is how

00:59:40.000 these things go back and forth

00:59:41.180 as we get more and more

00:59:42.980 experience

00:59:43.440 we understand that justice

00:59:44.540 uh

00:59:45.340 we understand what justice is

00:59:46.200 for example

00:59:46.640 what the good is

00:59:47.360 in greater and greater depth

00:59:48.680 as we experience

00:59:50.360 more and more evil

00:59:51.040 we experience

00:59:51.980 really what good is

00:59:52.700 because we have to know

00:59:53.460 you know

00:59:53.900 what good is

00:59:54.340 opposed to

00:59:55.120 so our knowledge of the good

00:59:56.740 becomes deeper and deeper

00:59:57.860 and more detailed

00:59:58.500 over time

00:59:59.080 that's what the dialectic is

01:00:00.480 it's a

01:00:02.040 it's a

01:00:02.620 it's about our struggle

01:00:03.460 it's an ascetic struggle

01:00:04.340 it's really what

01:00:05.160 Ivan E. Lin says

01:00:05.940 Hegel's dialectic is

01:00:07.120 experiencing the negative

01:00:09.200 because we live in a

01:00:09.900 fallen world

01:00:10.440 but that negative

01:00:11.560 is what

01:00:12.700 creates

01:00:13.700 I mean our battle

01:00:14.360 against sin

01:00:14.900 is what creates

01:00:16.020 our deeper understanding

01:00:17.100 of what the spiritual world

01:00:17.800 is like

01:00:18.180 and this is why

01:00:20.040 these isolated monks

01:00:21.000 know the world

01:00:21.620 far better than

01:00:22.400 than people who live

01:00:23.020 in the world do

01:00:23.460 and that's what

01:00:24.980 the ascetic struggle is

01:00:26.480 I mean the way

01:00:27.200 Hegel put it

01:00:27.740 as a philosopher

01:00:28.400 as a metaphysician

01:00:29.500 he put it the way he did

01:00:31.340 using that formal language

01:00:32.380 but in theological terms

01:00:34.820 it's the ascetic struggle

01:00:36.020 the dialectic is struggle

01:00:38.000 and

01:00:38.680 but of course

01:00:39.520 there is an ideal end

01:00:40.500 there is an absolute knowledge

01:00:41.560 God is

01:00:42.060 God is real

01:00:42.840 and this is how man

01:00:44.760 grows as an individual

01:00:46.040 as well as

01:00:46.480 as a historical entity

01:00:48.380 and as we experience

01:00:50.820 you know

01:00:51.200 in our day and age

01:00:51.800 for example

01:00:52.260 the battle lines

01:00:53.500 between good and evil

01:00:54.240 are so blatantly obvious now

01:00:55.940 that there is no excuse

01:00:58.100 one side of the fence

01:00:59.120 or the other

01:00:59.540 this is

01:01:01.240 you know

01:01:01.560 and Hegel would say

01:01:02.240 well this makes sense

01:01:02.960 because

01:01:03.380 because as we get

01:01:04.600 more and more information

01:01:05.360 our views of the good

01:01:07.640 are now

01:01:08.840 they're razor sharp

01:01:10.040 we know exactly

01:01:10.900 what the good is

01:01:12.360 and what the evil is

01:01:13.060 the battle lines

01:01:14.960 are so clear right now

01:01:16.180 as St. Valentin Spentitsky said

01:01:18.040 and that's why

01:01:20.320 when the Bolsheviks

01:01:20.860 took over Russia

01:01:21.420 they said okay

01:01:21.740 now

01:01:22.020 there's no middle ground now

01:01:23.720 they're so blatantly obvious

01:01:25.260 they're tearing down churches

01:01:26.100 there's no way out

01:01:27.460 you're on one side or the other

01:01:28.620 this is why He condemned

01:01:30.140 the Moscow Patriarchate so much

01:01:31.180 because

01:01:32.200 they tried to do both

01:01:33.440 and they couldn't

01:01:34.380 the battle lines

01:01:35.800 are so clear

01:01:36.600 right now

01:01:37.200 and this is straight

01:01:37.880 out of Hegel

01:01:38.640 our knowledge of the good

01:01:40.860 and our knowledge of the evil

01:01:42.080 is so now detailed

01:01:43.320 we know everything

01:01:45.300 we know far more

01:01:46.840 than the ancient fathers did

01:01:48.000 because they'd never

01:01:48.520 can you imagine

01:01:49.680 St. Maximus in this day and age

01:01:51.020 we know a heck of a lot more

01:01:53.400 about demons

01:01:54.060 than they ever did

01:01:54.720 because we're facing them

01:01:56.580 face to face now

01:01:57.520 they never did

01:01:58.020 they rule here now

01:02:01.100 through images

01:02:02.000 that wasn't the case

01:02:03.100 when Athanasius was writing

01:02:03.980 he lives in utopia

01:02:05.720 compared to this

01:02:06.420 so as history develops

01:02:09.000 our knowledge of good and evil

01:02:10.600 become very very

01:02:11.660 I mean we're

01:02:12.240 we suffer

01:02:13.200 and this is why

01:02:15.180 St. Nihilus of Athos

01:02:17.120 says that our

01:02:17.920 our generation

01:02:19.320 will be the greatest

01:02:19.980 of the saints

01:02:20.420 because we're

01:02:21.300 we're dealing with

01:02:22.440 open demonism

01:02:23.240 as a public entity

01:02:24.600 and we're standing up to it

01:02:26.720 like the three children

01:02:27.300 in the furnace

01:02:27.740 and this is what Hegel

01:02:29.580 has to do with it all

01:02:30.320 the dialectic is

01:02:31.920 a matter of

01:02:32.760 aesthetic struggle

01:02:33.380 and God is the final end

01:02:35.260 Indeed

01:02:37.440 and this mindset

01:02:38.420 is totally in contrast

01:02:40.900 to the nominalist

01:02:42.380 kind of will to power

01:02:43.140 mindset that we

01:02:44.020 we have just been

01:02:45.600 been ascribing

01:02:47.040 I had this point

01:02:48.200 very succinctly

01:02:50.040 and poignantly

01:02:50.600 expressed to me

01:02:51.480 when I was on Monathos

01:02:52.620 and I got into a conversation

01:02:54.780 with a monk taxi driver

01:02:56.940 and I was asking him

01:02:58.080 for some advice

01:02:58.560 in the spiritual life

01:02:59.380 and he

01:02:59.680 one of the things

01:03:00.760 that he said to me

01:03:01.340 was that

01:03:01.740 you know

01:03:04.340 living life in the moment

01:03:05.380 that's where Christ is

01:03:06.940 and that reliance

01:03:08.360 upon God

01:03:09.320 ultimately means

01:03:10.400 not getting absorbed

01:03:12.840 in the images

01:03:13.620 of the past

01:03:14.420 and in the future

01:03:15.100 which the demons

01:03:16.080 often use to control us

01:03:17.500 and that

01:03:18.300 for God

01:03:19.180 you know

01:03:19.840 the satisfactory life

01:03:20.940 is an earnest

01:03:21.720 movement towards Him

01:03:23.680 with the heart

01:03:24.580 in the moment

01:03:25.640 as far as you can

01:03:27.040 proceed

01:03:28.520 and this

01:03:28.980 the monk literally said

01:03:30.200 that it's the totally

01:03:31.000 the opposite of the American dream

01:03:32.520 which is all about

01:03:33.760 your own will

01:03:34.440 your own ego

01:03:35.260 and your own self-improvement

01:03:36.760 you have lots of money

01:03:38.460 for your own aggrandizement

01:03:39.540 your own house

01:03:40.640 your own property

01:03:41.380 your own posterity

01:03:42.400 legacy

01:03:42.900 this atomized power

01:03:44.980 and status

01:03:45.880 without any

01:03:46.740 meaning or

01:03:47.820 referent

01:03:48.660 aside from

01:03:49.260 passing market prestige

01:03:51.180 essentially

01:03:51.860 and then

01:03:52.920 what is the

01:03:53.540 conclusion

01:03:54.660 in America

01:03:56.060 no one owns anything

01:03:57.260 a tiny handful of people

01:03:58.800 control all the stocks

01:03:59.740 and all the debt

01:04:00.320 and everything else

01:04:01.000 the average American

01:04:03.160 is so deep in debt

01:04:04.220 he owns absolutely nothing

01:04:05.280 it was all a lie

01:04:06.520 it was all a fake image

01:04:08.540 of the suburban life

01:04:10.240 based on credit

01:04:11.000 and of course

01:04:13.240 none of this has anything

01:04:13.940 to do

01:04:14.320 with your own will

01:04:15.760 they think it is

01:04:16.700 of course

01:04:17.040 it has nothing to do

01:04:18.000 with them at all

01:04:18.580 they're puppets

01:04:19.480 and they don't know

01:04:21.280 they are

01:04:21.600 they live in a gilded cage

01:04:23.580 although

01:04:23.960 very few even

01:04:24.980 they aspire to that

01:04:26.420 they aspire to a gilded cage

01:04:28.560 most of them live in misery

01:04:30.120 the whole thing is a demonic double cross

01:04:32.440 and

01:04:33.500 the golden people

01:04:35.520 and the alchemical idea

01:04:37.180 this handful of titans

01:04:38.240 who rule

01:04:39.160 now nakedly

01:04:40.520 blatantly

01:04:40.980 over us

01:04:42.460 even using

01:04:43.720 you know

01:04:44.180 Egyptian imagery

01:04:44.980 they use Egyptian iconography

01:04:46.380 all the time

01:04:46.940 the worship of Moloch

01:04:49.260 which is not Egyptian

01:04:50.240 but

01:04:50.460 the great owl

01:04:52.580 they sacrifice care

01:04:54.120 at the Bohemian Grove

01:04:56.020 which is on videotape now

01:04:57.400 and you have

01:04:58.420 the leaders of the Republican Party

01:04:59.680 doing this

01:05:00.180 you know

01:05:01.040 it's blatant

01:05:01.680 and so

01:05:03.540 although

01:05:03.860 we're going to sin

01:05:04.680 more deeply

01:05:05.280 than the fathers did

01:05:06.100 the grace

01:05:08.180 we're going to receive

01:05:08.900 and the glory

01:05:09.460 we're going to receive

01:05:09.960 is going to be that much greater

01:05:10.760 because you know

01:05:12.040 I've killed

01:05:12.480 I've been born

01:05:13.120 in the year 1000

01:05:14.040 those guys had it easy

01:05:16.000 compared to what we have to suffer

01:05:17.280 with every day

01:05:17.900 that just means

01:05:18.760 that

01:05:19.600 that we're going to fall more

01:05:21.020 we're going to be far more sinful

01:05:22.400 but

01:05:23.620 that just also means

01:05:25.280 that so long as the struggle

01:05:26.140 is maintained

01:05:26.640 God's going to take care of us

01:05:28.620 a merciful and consoling father

01:05:32.320 that he is

01:05:33.160 okay

01:05:34.200 we're kind of coming in

01:05:37.460 to the end of our first hour

01:05:38.660 and I think this episode

01:05:39.540 will be a little bit shorter

01:05:40.680 and more concise

01:05:41.220 I mean we've been able to hit

01:05:42.460 all of the points

01:05:43.140 that we covered in our last episode

01:05:44.880 fairly comprehensively

01:05:46.340 within the time frame

01:05:47.340 is there anything that

01:05:48.880 I think it was better

01:05:49.560 I think

01:05:49.860 I think what I did

01:05:50.940 because we did it once before

01:05:52.700 it's something

01:05:55.580 people have to listen to

01:05:56.280 more than once

01:05:56.840 because I talk very quickly

01:05:58.000 but I'm cramming a lot of stuff

01:05:59.500 into a very short space

01:06:01.520 beyond this

01:06:02.140 would be repetitive

01:06:02.660 or just

01:06:03.520 explanation

01:06:04.440 so

01:06:06.800 I think it's much better

01:06:07.860 I think it's more concise

01:06:08.660 I think your prediction was true

01:06:09.940 yeah

01:06:10.680 absolutely

01:06:11.260 so I think that

01:06:12.340 before we come to the end

01:06:13.260 of our

01:06:13.920 of our show here today

01:06:15.480 are there any

01:06:16.400 further points

01:06:17.720 that you would like to make

01:06:18.600 maybe on the

01:06:19.800 I mean we can be

01:06:21.040 a little bit more explicit

01:06:22.280 with the relationship

01:06:23.060 between

01:06:24.120 you know

01:06:26.840 the economics of Adam Smith

01:06:28.180 and nominalism

01:06:29.740 and the connection

01:06:30.660 we mentioned

01:06:31.480 you know

01:06:31.980 fiat currency

01:06:32.640 as literally

01:06:33.300 nominalism applied to

01:06:34.600 to money

01:06:35.660 and so I think that

01:06:37.040 international finance capitalism

01:06:38.460 is really one of the best examples

01:06:40.020 of

01:06:40.440 it is the

01:06:41.540 the penultimate example

01:06:42.640 of how nominalism

01:06:44.020 dominates

01:06:44.540 the global society

01:06:45.660 well initially

01:06:48.320 you know

01:06:48.860 Cain

01:06:50.780 the builder of the city

01:06:52.040 and his

01:06:53.860 world

01:06:54.480 created the civilization

01:06:56.560 in the worst sense

01:06:57.300 the Nimrod

01:06:57.840 Babylonian civilization

01:06:59.000 a one world rule

01:07:01.140 based on oligarchy

01:07:01.920 based on secret magic

01:07:05.240 or what they called magic

01:07:07.880 the Tower of Babel

01:07:09.640 and everything else

01:07:10.260 and

01:07:11.640 of course

01:07:12.220 you saw manifestations

01:07:13.080 at Sodom and Gomorrah

01:07:14.000 and

01:07:15.180 on the Atlantean civilization

01:07:17.260 which God

01:07:17.760 destroyed in the flood

01:07:18.860 today

01:07:20.780 we're

01:07:21.700 far beyond that

01:07:22.940 what they had in Babylon

01:07:25.100 is nothing compared to

01:07:26.280 today

01:07:28.580 and some people

01:07:31.460 get impatient

01:07:31.960 this is why Protestants

01:07:33.400 are always yelling

01:07:33.980 doing some mathematical formula

01:07:36.000 that God's going to come tomorrow

01:07:37.080 and the day after

01:07:37.640 and make fools of themselves

01:07:38.600 and I think demons use this

01:07:40.860 just to

01:07:41.360 to make fun of actual

01:07:43.260 real end time

01:07:44.060 thinking

01:07:44.600 because these uneducated morons

01:07:47.000 think that numbers

01:07:48.300 in the Bible

01:07:48.740 are numerals

01:07:49.360 rather than icons

01:07:50.560 because they have no connection

01:07:51.880 to Christian culture

01:07:52.560 or the fathers

01:07:53.020 or anything

01:07:53.380 and they've done a lot of damage

01:07:54.860 because every new sect

01:07:56.120 has something to do

01:07:56.620 with the end times

01:07:57.240 they're idiots

01:07:57.660 and they've destroyed

01:07:59.400 public trust

01:08:00.800 and any real actual

01:08:01.720 end time

01:08:02.160 end time thinking

01:08:03.540 that's serious

01:08:04.000 which the Orthodox

01:08:04.420 almost never do

01:08:05.380 except now

01:08:06.640 but even secular society

01:08:08.720 doesn't know

01:08:09.200 the idea of

01:08:12.760 Babylonian society

01:08:13.920 is allegedly

01:08:15.420 at least according to the Masons

01:08:16.420 where they come from

01:08:17.940 it was sheer power

01:08:20.700 Cain was cursed

01:08:22.880 Cain was removed

01:08:24.140 from Eden

01:08:26.140 removed from his family

01:08:27.140 he was an isolated wanderer

01:08:28.400 he was a nomad

01:08:29.040 he had no connection

01:08:29.700 to anything

01:08:30.280 he was the prototype

01:08:32.640 of the Jew

01:08:33.020 in that respect

01:08:34.380 and his progeny

01:08:39.120 and people around him

01:08:40.180 created civilization

01:08:43.640 civilization in the bad sense

01:08:45.620 in the Spenglerian sense

01:08:46.960 of the bureaucracy

01:08:47.940 and the magical

01:08:50.000 use of images

01:08:51.300 and symbolism

01:08:51.900 to control people

01:08:52.720 thinking that the king

01:08:56.500 is actually some sort of a deity

01:08:57.460 or something like that

01:08:58.160 smoke and mirrors

01:09:00.740 literally

01:09:01.340 actually at the time

01:09:02.380 but God

01:09:03.980 took care

01:09:04.980 of that

01:09:05.720 back then

01:09:06.260 and

01:09:07.540 it frightens me

01:09:08.440 to think that

01:09:08.940 that's up to us now

01:09:10.160 now

01:09:11.740 we don't have power

01:09:13.300 to control

01:09:13.800 you know

01:09:14.240 our personal lives

01:09:15.120 let alone

01:09:16.140 rule of society

01:09:17.160 at the same time

01:09:19.100 when God

01:09:21.300 wanted the Israelites

01:09:22.100 to overthrow

01:09:23.980 the rule of

01:09:24.620 Midian

01:09:24.960 Media

01:09:25.800 he brought Gideon

01:09:27.380 who had no military experience

01:09:29.340 who had a handful

01:09:31.220 of men

01:09:31.640 God told him

01:09:33.780 using

01:09:34.200 deception

01:09:35.440 and lying

01:09:36.100 because it was good

01:09:37.800 in this case

01:09:38.500 to sneak up

01:09:40.120 on the

01:09:40.480 Midians

01:09:40.900 and start

01:09:41.380 slaughtering

01:09:41.740 and thereby

01:09:42.780 he became

01:09:43.460 one of the great

01:09:43.840 judges

01:09:44.120 and one of the great

01:09:44.600 leaders of the

01:09:45.100 Old Testament

01:09:45.720 as an absolute

01:09:47.680 nobody

01:09:48.020 might see the same

01:09:49.620 thing with

01:09:50.140 the Soviet Union

01:09:51.080 that in 1985

01:09:55.280 no one would have

01:09:56.380 thought of it

01:09:56.880 no one did think of it

01:09:58.120 and a few years later

01:09:59.360 it was God

01:09:59.900 so

01:10:01.920 God does operate

01:10:03.060 this way

01:10:03.420 maybe not in this

01:10:04.820 fiery conflagration

01:10:05.720 like in Sodom

01:10:06.560 or in a flood

01:10:07.840 but to be honest

01:10:10.420 it's also

01:10:11.800 Jesus himself

01:10:12.280 said this actually

01:10:12.960 that

01:10:13.160 it's going to

01:10:14.480 collapse under

01:10:14.820 its own weight

01:10:15.260 because

01:10:16.880 it's unsustainable

01:10:18.260 the

01:10:19.200 the fiat currency

01:10:20.200 mentality

01:10:20.800 the anomalous

01:10:21.500 mentality

01:10:22.020 isn't sustainable

01:10:22.820 the will to power

01:10:24.380 can't function

01:10:25.020 because it's never

01:10:25.540 satisfied

01:10:26.040 they start

01:10:27.600 turning on each

01:10:28.100 other

01:10:28.280 they start

01:10:29.400 making mistakes

01:10:30.080 people with all

01:10:32.180 that power

01:10:32.760 and no one

01:10:34.220 in history

01:10:34.900 has had the

01:10:35.300 power that

01:10:35.840 the leaders

01:10:36.940 of the society

01:10:37.420 have

01:10:37.760 they don't

01:10:40.580 see the world

01:10:40.900 the same way

01:10:41.360 they don't see

01:10:41.800 reality the same way

01:10:42.620 they couldn't

01:10:43.660 call out to God

01:10:44.100 if they wanted to

01:10:44.620 they live in a

01:10:46.520 completely different

01:10:46.940 reality of their

01:10:47.540 own making

01:10:47.980 and of course

01:10:48.440 there's a demonic

01:10:49.600 sponsorship

01:10:50.380 it seems to be

01:10:53.120 that us

01:10:53.600 a handful

01:10:54.580 of

01:10:55.020 isolated

01:10:55.980 you know

01:10:56.980 just like the

01:10:57.380 prophets were

01:10:57.900 have to bring

01:10:59.900 down the fire

01:11:00.380 and brimstone

01:11:00.900 on this

01:11:02.080 on this rotten

01:11:02.640 society

01:11:03.120 and God

01:11:04.840 says to Jeremiah

01:11:05.500 Jeremiah

01:11:05.900 of course

01:11:06.260 they all try

01:11:06.700 to get out of it

01:11:07.220 you know

01:11:07.720 I don't want

01:11:08.080 to do this

01:11:08.560 but God

01:11:09.820 makes them

01:11:10.140 do it anyway

01:11:10.580 just don't

01:11:13.000 worry about

01:11:13.560 their contorted

01:11:14.120 faces

01:11:14.560 their nasty

01:11:15.300 comments

01:11:15.820 how they spit

01:11:16.380 at you

01:11:16.580 no I will

01:11:17.460 take care of

01:11:18.360 you and

01:11:18.880 tell you

01:11:19.420 what to say

01:11:19.900 and as you

01:11:22.200 said about

01:11:22.460 living in the

01:11:22.820 moment

01:11:23.020 we have no

01:11:23.460 choice

01:11:23.580 this is

01:11:23.880 our job

01:11:24.600 now

01:11:24.840 and

01:11:26.280 whatever

01:11:28.900 strategy we

01:11:29.460 employ

01:11:29.860 to deal

01:11:30.740 with the

01:11:30.920 outside world

01:11:31.520 we at least

01:11:32.520 realize

01:11:32.980 that it's

01:11:33.880 completely

01:11:34.380 and absolutely

01:11:34.980 unsustainable

01:11:35.640 and it's going

01:11:36.640 to come collapsing

01:11:37.160 onto itself

01:11:37.800 there's going to

01:11:38.860 be mass suicides

01:11:39.780 because

01:11:41.440 I don't know

01:11:42.400 what they're going

01:11:42.660 to live for

01:11:43.100 once the system

01:11:44.180 can't deliver the

01:11:44.640 goods anymore

01:11:45.100 and

01:11:46.780 maybe then

01:11:48.680 you know

01:11:48.920 finally

01:11:49.220 the end

01:11:49.840 will come

01:11:50.160 but

01:11:51.100 the system

01:11:52.400 is so

01:11:52.640 irrational

01:11:53.020 and bizarre

01:11:53.680 and so

01:11:54.380 saturated

01:11:55.200 with debt

01:11:55.600 and

01:11:56.480 irrationality

01:11:57.260 and hatred

01:11:57.840 and drugs

01:11:59.040 and deception

01:12:00.620 that

01:12:01.280 only through

01:12:02.800 demonic sponsorship

01:12:03.440 can it last

01:12:03.940 as long as it

01:12:04.440 has

01:12:05.020 because we've

01:12:06.380 gone way

01:12:06.740 beyond Babylon

01:12:07.300 way beyond

01:12:07.980 Sodom and Gomorrah

01:12:08.740 these were

01:12:09.720 monasteries

01:12:10.860 compared to

01:12:11.220 what we live

01:12:11.560 in today

01:12:11.880 and

01:12:13.100 that's nothing

01:12:14.220 they were

01:12:14.480 school kids

01:12:15.180 but

01:12:15.540 so

01:12:16.860 we seem

01:12:17.260 to be

01:12:17.420 the ones

01:12:17.840 who have

01:12:18.500 to bring

01:12:18.700 down the

01:12:18.960 fire and

01:12:19.260 brimstone

01:12:19.600 like

01:12:19.960 Jonah

01:12:20.580 for example

01:12:21.240 the prophets

01:12:23.260 are always

01:12:23.880 the main

01:12:24.700 people to go

01:12:25.760 to

01:12:25.900 and of course

01:12:26.200 prophets

01:12:26.500 were very

01:12:26.900 economically

01:12:27.240 oriented

01:12:27.660 you know

01:12:29.260 money

01:12:29.700 destroys

01:12:31.320 your perception

01:12:31.820 because you

01:12:32.900 don't see

01:12:33.220 creation anymore

01:12:33.900 all you see

01:12:35.180 is a field

01:12:35.700 for your desires

01:12:36.340 to be satisfied

01:12:36.960 you stop

01:12:38.160 seeing people

01:12:38.880 you see

01:12:39.520 employees

01:12:40.040 you don't

01:12:41.360 even know

01:12:41.500 what justice

01:12:41.820 is anymore

01:12:42.280 all you see

01:12:42.820 is your own

01:12:43.080 self-interest

01:12:43.480 projected onto

01:12:44.040 the world

01:12:44.460 this is what

01:12:45.440 the prophets

01:12:45.780 say over

01:12:46.480 and over

01:12:46.840 again

01:12:47.200 and this

01:12:47.720 is why

01:12:47.940 no one

01:12:48.220 reads the

01:12:48.440 old testament

01:12:48.780 anymore

01:12:49.160 because this

01:12:50.500 is what

01:12:50.700 they say

01:12:51.080 they're exactly

01:12:51.580 in our

01:12:51.880 position

01:12:52.260 and we

01:12:53.820 have to do

01:12:54.100 it

01:12:54.200 it's that

01:12:55.000 simple

01:12:55.280 but the

01:12:56.160 economic

01:12:56.480 element

01:12:56.760 of it

01:12:57.060 is

01:12:57.920 that when

01:12:59.420 you start

01:12:59.980 pursuing

01:13:00.360 this

01:13:00.700 this

01:13:01.060 fantasy

01:13:01.620 that money

01:13:02.020 is going

01:13:02.220 to bring

01:13:02.440 anything

01:13:02.660 to you

01:13:03.020 you don't

01:13:04.180 see reality

01:13:04.780 anymore

01:13:05.140 all you see

01:13:06.440 is your own

01:13:06.840 projection

01:13:07.220 of what you

01:13:07.600 think

01:13:07.920 you have

01:13:08.780 to pursue

01:13:09.480 it's

01:13:11.060 psychosis

01:13:11.540 but in this

01:13:12.000 society

01:13:12.300 because everyone

01:13:12.660 is doing

01:13:13.000 it

01:13:13.220 it's

01:13:14.220 accepted as

01:13:14.580 normal

01:13:14.820 this is why

01:13:16.980 the soviet

01:13:17.320 threw people

01:13:17.700 and you know

01:13:18.220 good people

01:13:18.740 in mental

01:13:19.060 institutions

01:13:19.540 that may be

01:13:20.920 the fate

01:13:21.780 for some

01:13:22.020 of us

01:13:22.400 unfortunately

01:13:25.200 that is the

01:13:26.000 that is the way

01:13:27.980 things look

01:13:28.860 to be going

01:13:29.540 more and more

01:13:30.260 every day

01:13:30.880 okay well

01:13:33.520 that was excellent

01:13:34.440 and concise

01:13:35.220 so I think

01:13:36.540 that we will

01:13:37.380 end it here

01:13:38.020 fairly brief

01:13:39.280 but I think

01:13:39.900 dense episode

01:13:40.800 of Mysterium

01:13:41.260 fascis

01:13:41.740 I think

01:13:42.660 a listener

01:13:42.900 is going

01:13:43.120 to have

01:13:43.320 to listen

01:13:44.280 to this

01:13:44.540 more than

01:13:44.820 once

01:13:45.080 hopefully

01:13:46.400 if you're

01:13:48.940 new to this

01:13:49.460 and you're

01:13:49.780 hitting this

01:13:50.060 for the first

01:13:50.460 time

01:13:50.880 I've just

01:13:51.620 been speaking

01:13:52.140 you know

01:13:52.660 utter nonsense

01:13:55.160 syllables

01:13:55.540 but going

01:13:58.000 through it

01:13:58.340 over and over

01:13:58.700 again I think

01:13:59.260 it'll become

01:13:59.720 clear

01:14:00.080 absolutely

01:14:02.260 we have

01:14:03.580 several other

01:14:04.180 excellent episodes

01:14:05.100 that we've

01:14:05.440 done with you

01:14:05.880 which should

01:14:06.260 provide good

01:14:07.040 context and

01:14:07.900 background

01:14:08.280 so our

01:14:09.340 listeners are

01:14:09.700 welcome to

01:14:09.980 go and check

01:14:10.320 those out

01:14:10.760 we've got

01:14:11.540 more than a

01:14:11.960 few

01:14:12.180 okay so

01:14:14.080 to our

01:14:14.660 listeners

01:14:14.940 thank you

01:14:15.940 for joining

01:14:16.300 us

01:14:16.580 I've been

01:14:17.120 your host

01:14:17.540 Florian

01:14:18.160 Geyer

01:14:18.520 today on

01:14:19.220 the podcast

01:14:19.780 I had with

01:14:20.340 me our

01:14:21.260 special

01:14:21.540 returning

01:14:22.000 co-host

01:14:22.760 Father

01:14:23.920 Matthew

01:14:24.580 Raphael

01:14:24.900 Johnson

01:14:25.160 thank you

01:14:25.820 for coming

01:14:26.080 on

01:14:26.320 you're

01:14:28.020 welcome

01:14:28.200 this was

01:14:28.520 a much

01:14:28.720 better

01:14:28.940 version

01:14:29.200 than the

01:14:29.400 first

01:14:29.580 one

01:14:29.720 I'm

01:14:29.800 glad

01:14:29.900 we did

01:14:30.100 it

01:14:30.180 again

01:14:30.420 yeah

01:14:31.060 so am

01:14:31.500 I

01:14:31.680 never to

01:14:32.760 let the

01:14:33.040 techno

01:14:33.260 demons

01:14:33.600 stand

01:14:33.920 in our

01:14:34.140 way

01:14:34.380 so

01:14:35.900 they're

01:14:36.600 defeated

01:14:36.860 again

01:14:37.200 that's it

01:14:38.140 that's it

01:14:38.740 by the

01:14:39.060 sign of

01:14:39.300 the cross

01:14:39.720 so to

01:14:40.980 our

01:14:41.120 listeners

01:14:41.440 Shalom

01:15:07.200 Sons

01:15:07.560 Sons

01:15:08.480 lusse

01:15:09.060 dach

01:15:09.420 den

01:15:10.000 roten

01:15:11.080 harn

01:15:11.660 spieß

01:15:12.900 voran

01:15:13.620 drauf

01:15:14.620 und

01:15:15.060 dran

01:15:15.480 setzt

01:15:16.480 aus

01:15:16.720 lusse

01:15:17.100 dach

01:15:17.540 den

01:15:18.100 roten

01:15:19.080 harn

01:15:19.780 As Adam Ruh und Eva schwann, Kyrie Leis

01:15:31.160 Wo war denn da der Edelmann, Kyrie Leis

01:15:39.360 Spieß voran, rauf und ran

01:15:44.240 Setzt aufs Klosterdach den roten Hahn

01:15:48.380 Spieß voran, rauf und ran

01:15:52.280 Setzt aufs Klosterdach den roten Hahn

01:15:56.420 Uns führt der Florian Geier an

01:16:04.460 Trotz Acht und Bann

01:16:07.540 Den Wunschuh führt er in der Fahrt

01:16:12.880 Hat hell und harmlich an

01:16:15.600 Spieß voran, rauf und ran

01:16:19.500 Setzt aufs Klosterdach den roten Hahn

01:16:23.640 Spieß voran, rauf und ran

01:16:27.540 Setzt aufs Klosterdach den roten Hahn

01:16:31.680 Setzt aufs Klosterdach den roten Hahn

01:16:35.580 Bei Weinsberg setzt es Brand und Schank

01:16:40.980 Hei, ja, oh, ho

01:16:44.140 Gar mancher über die Klinge sprang

01:16:49.060 Hei, ja, oh, ho

01:16:52.580 Spieß voran, rauf und ran

01:16:57.040 Setzt aufs Klosterdach den roten Hahn

01:16:59.680 Spieß voran, rauf und ran

01:17:03.580 Spieß voran, rauf und ran

01:17:05.580 Setzt aufs Klosterdach den roten Hahn

01:17:07.720 Geschlagen ziehen wir nach Haus

01:17:17.460 Geschlagen ziehen wir nach Haus

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01:17:20.380 Unsere Enkel fechtens besser aus

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01:17:28.620 Spieß voran, rauf und ran

01:17:33.460 Setzt aufs Klosterdach den roten Hahn

01:17:35.620 Den roten Hahn

01:17:37.620 Spieß voran, rauf und ran

01:17:41.520 Setzt aufs Klosterdach den roten Hahn

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Mysterium Fasces - October 09, 2024

Mysterium Fasces Episode 52 — Nominalism

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