Mysterium Fasces

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00:02:48.380 Well, we're also flattered.

00:02:49.740 And we also have Doc Savage, who is another very insightful commenter.

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00:02:57.280 Hail Christ the King.

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00:03:00.680 So, this episode, I think very pithily, we're going to be talking about orthodoxy and nationalism, the intersection between the two.

00:03:09.180 And it's going to be, I think, less topical and constructive and more dialectic, more comparative.

00:03:17.460 So, there's a couple of questions we've got lined up here, and I think we're just going to go into them one by one, kind of pose the question.

00:03:23.640 Dr. Johnson, please give your input.

00:03:25.540 Everybody else respond, and we'll move forward organically.

00:03:28.900 So, I think it's very important to establish what is nationalism, because a lot of people, they come into this movement, and they don't really have a firm, working definition of what nationalism is.

00:03:41.380 And there's a lot of competing definitions that can kind of obfuscate the meaning.

00:03:48.860 So, a lot of people also posit that nationalism, as we understand it today, is just an 18th century construct used by the states of Europe to provide a social club for their wars, and that nationalist historians, nationalist political theorists are essentially projecting back their contemporaneous ethnocentric view upon history when they talk about the French people through time, or the Germanic people through time, or the Russian people through time.

00:04:17.280 So, what's your take on this, Dr. Johnson?

00:04:21.420 I imagine this is not the first time you've imposed this question, or you've run into these ideas.

00:04:27.100 Yeah, well, you know, I've dedicated my life to just this question.

00:04:31.200 For the last 20 years, this is all I've done.

00:04:34.180 So, it's, you know, it's made me half crazy.

00:04:39.140 In academia, it's not taken seriously.

00:04:42.280 Eric Hobsbawm, in that whole mythic category, is everywhere.

00:04:48.580 Ernest Gellner, I guess, is as close as you can get to someone who thinks like us.

00:04:53.400 I've defined the term national, the nation, very strictly over the years.

00:04:59.640 It is a group of people who speak the same language.

00:05:03.100 But by language, we're talking about something very, very broad.

00:05:06.360 It's not just, you know, vocabulary and syntax.

00:05:09.160 It's the entire universe of shared meaning that people have.

00:05:14.620 Every folk way, every custom fits in language.

00:05:17.460 For any word to have any meaning, it has to have a huge social context.

00:05:22.760 But the other ingredient that I use is something unique to me.

00:05:26.800 The structures of survival.

00:05:29.420 For any ethnic group, that's, you know, every ethnic group has suffered.

00:05:32.860 You know, colonialism, warfare, genocide, et cetera.

00:05:36.560 They've developed coping mechanisms, like the Serbian Slava, for example, or the Russian Commune.

00:05:44.580 And that these mechanisms, you take them all together, and they are really the essence of what the nation is.

00:05:51.040 It's their means of self-defense.

00:05:54.880 And it's defined who they are as people.

00:05:56.340 So those are the two ingredients that I normally use when I define the nation.

00:06:01.100 I'm very strict about it.

00:06:02.740 The French Revolutionary concept, I just can't – I fought this for so long.

00:06:07.560 It's the very opposite.

00:06:08.780 You know, they talk about this civic nation, individualism, the rights of man, property rights.

00:06:15.080 This is, you know, the sine qua non of reality with these people.

00:06:17.800 So that's not only not nationalism, it's the very opposite of nationalism.

00:06:23.120 And I'm not entirely sure how that got mixed in with people like Johan Herder and even Bernard Bosonket.

00:06:30.940 I don't know how that even – I don't even know how that works.

00:06:33.900 It is a vapid – it's a void.

00:06:35.620 It's a cultural void.

00:06:37.100 The mere existence of the state for these people is the nation.

00:06:41.880 And so it's now so muddled and so disastrous that half the time I'm in academic debates with these people, and we're not even using the words in the same way.

00:06:49.760 So this has been an ongoing battle, and, you know, it's been very frustrating.

00:06:57.240 Yeah, and this is – I was recently listening to a series of history lectures entitled Europe from its Origins by a man by the name of Joseph Hogarty, a British historian.

00:07:07.120 And while it was – I first listened to these lectures when I was a young boy, I was 13, and they changed my life.

00:07:14.720 It kind of converted me back to Christianity once I understood where our culture and where the foundation of the European idea came from, which is, of course, Christendom.

00:07:23.380 But one of the pernicious themes is, you know, he is quite convinced that – it's very strange.

00:07:29.840 He's quite convinced that nationalism is something that was invented in the, you know, 19th and 20th centuries, and that, you know, the concepts that he frequently refers to, you know, the nazios that existed at the University of Prague and the University of Paris.

00:07:42.760 You know, and even before that, the sectioning of the different parts of Latin Christendom into the Landoi, these, as you see, loose groups of languages with more regional identities.

00:07:56.260 You know, he kind of completely discounts this as being evidence of, you know, communitarian nationalism.

00:08:00.840 And it's very frustrating, and it's – it is a hallmark of kind of the academic cognitive dissonance.

00:08:09.360 I think it is just for some – I think it's political.

00:08:13.020 It's political correctness, frankly.

00:08:16.280 Well, it's very emotional.

00:08:17.820 You know, I've been – the debates that I've had when I'm teaching at different universities, you know, I've been screamed at and nailed at.

00:08:23.320 This is really popping their bubble.

00:08:25.180 For example, I talked to them about, you know, the Irish national movement in the 13th and 14th century was – not only was it ethnic, but they're using language like we would use.

00:08:37.600 Debates, for example, in 16th century Ukraine and Poland between the unions of the Roman Catholics from the north of them was strictly ethnic, using language that sounds very modern.

00:08:48.100 Poland without question, you know, it's – you know, ethnicity has always been a dominant – never mind the Jews. 0.98

00:08:57.460 So this – it's been dominant in so many parts of the world, and they'll always find some excuse.

00:09:03.820 And usually what they fall back on is the contradictory position that, well, the state is – the modern state is a modern invention.

00:09:12.820 Therefore, nationalism is modern.

00:09:13.840 So it's a circular argument, and I can't penetrate it, and there is – it's political.

00:09:21.980 It's emotional, and I know that I've paid a heavy price for this because the minute you talk about nationalism and take it seriously, they begin talking about racism and everything else, and they get all irrational, and it's been very difficult.

00:09:37.580 But there have been a few.

00:09:39.340 I mean, Ernest Gellner has been decent about it, not like us, but he approaches us.

00:09:45.540 There's a few academics out there that take it very seriously.

00:09:49.660 And, of course, the Jews also, certain fishermen and others have – kind of have a vested interest in defining the nation as a perennial, almost primordial concept.

00:10:01.640 And the simple argument is people are not going to marry those that speak a different language.

00:10:08.420 They're going to marry people who they have a lot in common with. 0.76

00:10:11.800 So to think that nations aren't biological is almost – it seems to be ridiculous.

00:10:18.540 And even in empires that have been multinational, like Austria or Rome, the nations have been taken seriously as individual nations.

00:10:26.020 An empire assumes nation because it's a commonwealth of different ethnic groups, recognizing one emperor.

00:10:34.360 But in the center, they speak German, and the bureaucrats in Vienna speak German, Latin in old Rome.

00:10:43.100 So ethnicity is built into the concept of the multinational empire.

00:10:47.620 So nation would be also a worldview that keeps the people together, so to speak.

00:10:56.020 That's right.

00:10:57.920 That's right.

00:10:58.280 It's exactly right.

00:10:59.420 Can I follow this?

00:11:00.880 Please go on, John.

00:11:04.060 Yeah, this was something that had occurred to me a while ago.

00:11:07.880 And it was in the – it was actually a couple of months ago, a couple of years ago, actually, when I was first coming into the alt-right, and we were doing the Nationalist Review Online podcast over at TRS.

00:11:16.120 And, you know, immediately I was able to recognize that the big difference in the alt-right, the splitting kind of line of division, was materialism versus idealism.

00:11:28.680 But that was kind of only the core surface of what I was picking up on.

00:11:33.180 I think really what I was coming to recognize was that there are people who speak our language, the language of tradition, the language of the real world, and there are people who don't.

00:11:43.300 And those that understand this language and are rational then discover the principles that inform, you know, a sane view, a sane worldview are our kindred, and we work with, and it's apparent when you speak to them.

00:11:58.480 Yeah, and this is global.

00:12:03.320 If you remember when Obama went to Kenya, and he was talking about homosexual rights there, and the Kenyan prime minister really blasted him.

00:12:13.360 And he's arguing from an African traditionalist point of view, saying we don't do that kind of thing here.

00:12:20.160 And it was a big fight, and it was in the front page of the paper that day.

00:12:23.100 And I know Matt Heimbeck and we, I myself, wrote an article praising these guys.

00:12:29.800 Everywhere you go, the American Indians, it's the same sort of structure, things that they've developed to survive.

00:12:37.480 I would say that the nation isn't just what holds the people together.

00:12:41.260 I would say the nation is the people.

00:12:45.040 Yes, exactly.

00:12:46.400 And there, of course, is the very famous Ugandan League of Anti-Sodomy, who I'm certain many of you have seen the very humorous video where they quite vigorously attacked President Obama.

00:12:58.820 But yeah, no, and I think this is a piece of one.

00:13:02.080 I have a quick comment, really.

00:13:04.760 Because, like, when you talk of the concept of nation, I mean, to really understand that, I mean, a nation is not just clay.

00:13:14.600 For example, if we say that we took out all the Swedes of Sweden and we moved them into a new area, that new area would inherently become Sweden. 0.99

00:13:23.560 I mean, that is the way it is.

00:13:25.040 I mean, the connection of blood and soil is so undeniable.

00:13:29.840 I mean, it is the fundament.

00:13:32.740 Well, yes, I think the Afrikaners, you know, from Northern Europe going to Africa, you know, they've maintained Calvinism. 1.00

00:13:40.360 They maintain the same mentality.

00:13:43.000 But there's no question about it.

00:13:44.600 Precisely.

00:13:46.260 Yeah, indeed.

00:13:47.380 But I think that it's been, I mean, as you say, this is a, the opposition to these kind of ideas are not really, they are not really rooted in, you know, rational critiques or objections.

00:13:59.660 They're political and emotional.

00:14:00.920 It seems to me that one of the things we kind of struggle against is the sort of degradation of language and because the language is degraded, a degradation of thought.

00:14:13.360 People can't think clearly because they can't speak clearly because the very words we use have been essentially censored and redefined very subtly through mass media to the point where, you know, we're calling white, black, and black, white.

00:14:34.760 Yeah.

00:14:35.780 Yeah.

00:14:35.920 Well, the last two years, I've really just, I've become obsessed with that topic.

00:14:41.560 I'm starting to realize that words like law, constitution, family, representation, they don't mean the same 200 years ago as they do now.

00:14:51.640 In some cases, words like symbol, for example, have no relation to its original usage. 0.94

00:14:59.120 So, you know, even an educated American goes and reads the Federalist Papers and they don't understand the damn thing that's going on.

00:15:05.880 Because all they're doing is imposing retroactively modern conceptions of representation or even justice onto a completely different world.

00:15:15.600 And just even in the last 50 years, words have been denuded of all meaning.

00:15:21.040 They're being used in words like hypocrisy or paranoid.

00:15:25.040 Away, so far from the original meaning, it's useless.

00:15:28.800 And it's to the point now we can't have a debate with a lot of these people because we're not even speaking the same language.

00:15:35.140 No, we're not.

00:15:36.000 And this had come to me and another insight was that it's strange that Satan is depicted as the father of lies,

00:15:43.740 but a lie is not just, you know, an untrue fact.

00:15:47.700 It's not simply saying two plus two is five.

00:15:49.480 I mean, a lie is a system, a worldview, which is not in congruence to reality.

00:15:54.200 And so this method of redefining what people's perception of reality is, of inducing a fake worldview,

00:16:01.280 I think is the primary tool of the synagogue of Satan and of, you know, the evil one himself,

00:16:06.560 whether through sin or whether through propaganda, in order to control people.

00:16:10.880 Well, and the culprit there ultimately is nominalism.

00:16:15.460 For the last ten years, this has been a huge preoccupation of mine.

00:16:19.740 Nomalism argues that there are no, not that there's no universal,

00:16:22.860 but there's no inherent meaning in the created order, the natural world,

00:16:27.140 and that we just simply apply labels to whatever we find useful.

00:16:31.700 And so there's a radical separation between the words and the reality that they're supposed to be referring to.

00:16:39.140 That means if you're powerful enough to create a new language, that would imply that you can create a new reality.

00:16:49.080 So nominalism has been necessary for liberalism, for industrialization, for socialism.

00:16:53.640 But when you're, you know, mass media is of such immense power that they're able to redefine words,

00:17:02.220 and given the fact that there is no inherent connection between a word and its referent,

00:17:06.900 that would mean that an entire new reality is being created,

00:17:10.380 as this new vocabulary is being either introduced or redefined.

00:17:13.640 And that's, so we're talking about people who live in a dream world.

00:17:17.820 And this is why you have to be careful.

00:17:19.560 When you start bursting in a bubble, be very careful for their reaction.

00:17:24.620 It's extremely difficult.

00:17:25.900 You burst someone's bubble, you destroy the foundation of their worldview, you better duck.

00:17:30.460 And I have very bad experiences.

00:17:32.100 It could be fun to watch them lose it, but you have to be very careful.

00:17:35.960 Yeah, I mean, if there's no absolute meaning like that, then this will to power, or whatever you want to call it, is all they have.

00:17:45.820 So if you pop that, you literally, you destroy everything they are.

00:17:50.140 They build their house on sand, essentially.

00:17:52.920 Exactly.

00:17:53.380 And then you ask them, if someone is unjust towards you, you know, a corporation, for example, does something, you know,

00:17:59.680 it takes your savings or your pension, where do you stand to complain?

00:18:02.620 If you believe everything is his will to power and your self-interest, then you have no right to complain that the business or somebody else is pursuing their will to power at your expense.

00:18:13.420 Yeah, well, and this reaches its logical conclusion under Max Stirner.

00:18:18.620 And, I mean, I remember when I first learned of Stirnerism and anarcho-egoism, and this, you know, basically his thesis was that nothing matters and nothing is real except the relationship between one's own ego and the means of production.

00:18:32.620 And this is the logical conclusion of nominalism, because that's the only substantiative thing that you can defend in this framework,

00:18:39.960 is that the only thing that matters and the only thing that's real is the value that your ego ascribes to the material world and the means of production within it.

00:18:47.360 Yeah.

00:18:48.440 And how far is that from on Rand, as well, and a lot of the libertarians out there?

00:18:52.520 Well, it's not. It's only one or two steps removed, frankly.

00:18:55.120 That's right.

00:18:56.140 Or the original hedonists, I mean, going back to ancient Greece.

00:18:59.120 It's the inaccuracies, yeah.

00:19:02.860 Yeah, but the topic of Karl Marx's doctoral dissertation, by the way.

00:19:06.800 Hmm.

00:19:08.100 Yeah.

00:19:08.680 So I think that was an edifying response to the first point.

00:19:12.600 I think the second one is, you know, we wrote here,

00:19:15.220 bonds of social trust found organically in the family and its extension seem to be critical social capital necessary to sustain a vital and functioning society.

00:19:24.320 It seems the case that the further away you move the state from these bonds or this foundation, we could call the nation,

00:19:30.140 the more violence is required in order to retain civility.

00:19:32.600 And I know that you've talked about this, you know, you've been combating the idea that imperialism is somehow the handmaiden of nationalism.

00:19:41.120 And you contend that the imperial, you know, the true state apparatus is, in fact, the enemy of the national polity.

00:19:47.680 Well, not inherently, but, you know, most recently it has been.

00:19:55.300 Capitalism is inherently international, you know, from its very origins.

00:19:59.620 It was never a localized phenomenon.

00:20:02.280 You know, British industrialization came from a surplus that comes from Latin America, comes from India.

00:20:07.020 It was always international.

00:20:08.760 The family used to be defined as this very large, or a large clan, extended family, and you had a few of them in one given area.

00:20:21.200 Everyone knew each other.

00:20:22.900 You couldn't fool anybody, so justice was almost intuitive.

00:20:27.140 And you even had this in early America.

00:20:29.080 You had this prior to the Revolutionary War.

00:20:31.840 So when these people are writing about representation and law and jurisprudence, this is what they're referring to.

00:20:40.080 And, but, you know, even an educated American reading this is not going to get that out of it.

00:20:46.200 Yeah.

00:20:46.820 No, and I think that that is, that is what is becoming so clear, is that the amount of people that actually view the real world,

00:20:54.460 understand the world and history in the way that 90% of all of our ancestors did worldwide is,

00:21:04.380 has dwindled almost a knot.

00:21:06.020 I mean, even within the far-right movement, less than half, I would say, actually understand the principles of what's going on here.

00:21:14.460 Well, I did my master's thesis on George William Frederick Hegel,

00:21:17.440 and then my doctoral dissertation on Michael Oakeshott, a British Hegelian movement.

00:21:20.920 And I think Hegel's philosophy of right is the greatest political work that's ever done.

00:21:25.880 He is a firm nationalist and corporatist, and he always defines state.

00:21:30.300 And I think a lot of the German writers define state the way I just define nation.

00:21:34.700 I have the feeling we use state to refer to these, just these institutions.

00:21:39.200 The very, and, yeah.

00:21:41.440 Yeah, so he's using that word, and commentators, you know, are using the word state the way we would,

00:21:47.520 to refer to it like a police department, you know, IRS, everything else.

00:21:50.180 And he's referring to a constitution.

00:21:52.240 He's referring to the entire structure of the society and the language.

00:21:57.220 And nothing makes any sense.

00:21:58.960 You can't have political debate unless there are all these commonalities.

00:22:02.880 You can't debate a point unless you have a lot in common,

00:22:05.920 because you have to have a lot to refer to.

00:22:07.160 You have to have a shared worldview before you can even begin a debate.

00:22:10.600 Yeah, that's something I've seen as well.

00:22:14.400 You use slightly different words when you mean the same things.

00:22:18.760 You can go on and on for hours and hours and hours, and you don't really get anywhere with it.

00:22:24.940 But this idea that the state is essentially a nation, that kind of reminds me of the idea of Prussian socialism.

00:22:35.500 You know, that everyone's supposed to be, you know, united in a, you know, spirit for the betterment of the whole, so to speak.

00:22:45.900 How long did you know the place?

00:22:50.140 Well, you know, Hegel's often accused of being the father of that.

00:22:53.800 You know, Prussia was incredibly successful, despite its flaws.

00:22:57.800 You know, it had its obsession with industrialization.

00:22:59.500 But this is what started World War I in the sense that Britain freaked out.

00:23:03.100 But now the state is purely an abstraction.

00:23:07.880 It has no relation to the nation whatsoever.

00:23:09.760 In fact, it's constantly at war with the nation.

00:23:13.120 So years ago, I was very involved with national anarchism, because that's where it starts from.

00:23:18.420 But now they have absolutely nothing in common with each other.

00:23:22.220 It's like a huge machine eating up the nation.

00:23:25.700 Exactly.

00:23:26.280 And that word is brilliant, because it's mechanistic, it's lumbering, it's soulless,

00:23:32.280 it doesn't have feelings, everything's just a matter of procedure.

00:23:35.740 Machine is the precise word to use.

00:23:37.780 And just as how the Jews enslave the actual machines to their interests and ruin the environment 1.00

00:23:46.900 and all that stuff, so the Jews have enslaved the state to their interests. 0.96

00:23:51.520 So it's another golem for the Jews. 1.00

00:23:54.100 And the rabbi keeps doing their incarnations all the time.

00:23:57.540 If you come across some Jews in the state, it was a brilliant book. 0.99

00:24:03.780 It was a few years ago.

00:24:04.460 I can't think of the author now.

00:24:06.820 You know, saying that this state becoming an abstraction is exactly as Jewish often. 0.79

00:24:11.040 It's precisely because the Jews created this notion of the state as just an overseer 1.00

00:24:17.600 using the power to private actors, you know, hashing it out.

00:24:21.940 I was able to traverse the world in the entire world.

00:24:25.180 It's only the Jewish minority, who is so much more cohesive than everybody else,

00:24:29.460 that will automatically win.

00:24:30.800 Numbers don't matter.

00:24:31.680 It's that cohesion that matters.

00:24:32.560 I think the state is necessary, though, much as I hate to say.

00:24:38.040 And there has been very good, successful, worthwhile states in history

00:24:42.920 that has been connected with the nation.

00:24:47.040 And monarchy is certainly no contradiction.

00:24:48.860 Monarchy has to be a monarchy of something.

00:24:51.820 You know, the monarchy is decked out in all the symbols of either the nation,

00:24:57.000 like in Serbia, or a group of nations, like in Russia or Austria.

00:25:01.460 But that's not contradictory either.

00:25:03.860 I think what you meant, Florian, before a minute ago

00:25:05.440 is that imperialism and nationalism are opposites.

00:25:08.180 It's the only reason, you know, imperialism wants to destroy nations

00:25:13.120 and rule over them and exploit them. 0.79

00:25:15.520 But for a liberal, you're arguing with one of them,

00:25:17.880 you say, what is wrong with imperialism if no nations exist?

00:25:21.940 Because the whole problem with imperialism is that they dominate nations

00:25:25.180 that they have no right to be in.

00:25:27.360 Well, if nations don't exist, then there's no imperialism.

00:25:31.460 Yes, exactly.

00:25:32.120 You're just appropriating the labor of individuals.

00:25:34.620 Yeah, and I think that one of the distinctions that we were making last week

00:25:42.060 when we were talking about Donald Trump,

00:25:43.500 and we might get on to discussing him loosely later on,

00:25:46.640 was that there is a difference between Zog and the empire,

00:25:51.060 that it proliferates, and, you know, traditional empires.

00:25:54.780 Like if you look at, an excellent example of this is Persia

00:25:57.860 under the Achaemenid dynasty, where Darius II ran it kind of like a corporation.

00:26:03.340 It was mostly, you know, interested in extracting, you know, rent,

00:26:08.640 and mostly left the nations to govern themselves.

00:26:13.980 Well, I'm no expert in that area.

00:26:16.480 It was an oligarchy, and it still comes from the Tower of Babel, 0.98

00:26:20.260 is, you know, where that whole worldview comes from.

00:26:22.580 But I'm certainly no expert in the area.

00:26:24.640 You know, so one of the things is, in the alt-right or far-right,

00:26:34.020 or the Republicans, as Andrew Anglin is now referring to us collectively,

00:26:39.340 there's a, it sort of springs forth from white nationalism.

00:26:42.940 That's kind of the general undertone of, you know,

00:26:46.180 ethno-nationalist politics in North America.

00:26:47.900 And on rope culture, in our march, you know,

00:26:52.060 there have been some fairly devastating critiques of white nationalism,

00:26:55.460 you know, qua white nationalism, as the only sufficient factor

00:26:58.240 to create a healthy society and a healthy nation.

00:27:01.460 But I guess what we want to do is just address that point.

00:27:04.900 So is white nationalism, or purely racial national bonds,

00:27:08.500 in a North American context, sufficient in order to create

00:27:11.220 a functioning social polity?

00:27:12.960 Well, for one thing, I've never been a big fan of the term, the alt-right.

00:27:19.500 Yeah, that's pretty good.

00:27:21.140 I'm still using, like, paleo conservative and nationalist and national socialist.

00:27:24.640 I think those are more descriptive.

00:27:27.460 No, they're fine.

00:27:28.840 They're the best one.

00:27:29.600 They're the best terminology to use, really.

00:27:31.320 I think so.

00:27:32.940 But as far as North America is concerned,

00:27:35.080 the black population really doesn't know what ethnic group they're from.

00:27:39.220 You know, and I know it's vaguely West Africa, the Niger Delta area.

00:27:44.520 Whites have hardly lost their ethnic background.

00:27:48.600 So all whites and blacks have is this racial identity. 0.98

00:27:51.740 There is no American nation. 0.97

00:27:53.720 There's no American identity. 0.82

00:27:55.460 It was meant as a federation of different nations.

00:27:58.640 So only in North America would that make sense.

00:28:01.200 Elsewhere, white nationalism is simply, the race is too big.

00:28:05.020 Races are too large for it to have much meaning.

00:28:07.000 But North America is different because of those realities.

00:28:11.240 Well, even there, if I might jump in.

00:28:14.660 Yeah.

00:28:15.080 In the American context, when we say white,

00:28:18.500 we don't really mean all white people everywhere on the globe in all times and all places.

00:28:24.700 What we really mean is just American white people.

00:28:27.080 It's a stand-in for an American ethnicity that's trying to be born. 1.00

00:28:31.840 Well, that comes from the gradual erosion of all the different ethnic peoples that have come here. 1.00

00:28:41.140 And I also think we have to include class there as well,

00:28:44.640 that we're really talking about poor and middle class white people.

00:28:48.240 Because wealthy are certainly not on our side.

00:28:49.800 So when I say whites, I'm not referring to Rockefeller.

00:28:53.340 You know, we're also referring to, I think, a certain class status as well.

00:28:55.980 Yeah, I would agree.

00:28:58.500 The yeoman farmer in that certain sense.

00:29:03.500 And that was, yeah.

00:29:05.320 Anyway, I think that Doc has nicely transitioned us into the next question,

00:29:09.640 which is what is the future of ethnic nationalism in the United States?

00:29:12.560 I mean, we're in this setting where, you know,

00:29:15.920 any real organic cultural or ethnic national bonds have been systematically attacked and broken down.

00:29:21.760 There hasn't really been a synthesis born out of this kind of pan-European cultural and racial melange.

00:29:30.440 And so I think what one of the solutions that's proposed in national socialist writings,

00:29:36.080 in fascist writings, is the idea of, you know, an American futurism.

00:29:40.240 That the only way that, you know, white people, 0.97

00:29:43.100 qua white people, and the way that Doc Savage has just defined it for us to actually survive

00:29:47.820 and not simply be, you know, miscegenated out of existence,

00:29:51.680 is to form a new ethnic group that is fundamentally divergent from the principles of the American revolutionary founding fathers.

00:30:02.660 I have a quick comment.

00:30:05.800 Essentially, what you have brought forth in terms of American futurism,

00:30:09.980 of course, that is the ideal future for the United States as a whole.

00:30:13.780 If you are to remove the centralized rots of the United States,

00:30:17.960 a complete and utter destruction of the United States as we know it now as a phenomenon and a concept,

00:30:25.000 it needs to go.

00:30:26.700 I think when mentioning American futurism and the rebirth of American identity as a whole,

00:30:35.400 I think what is immensely important to understand,

00:30:38.360 and what I think a lot of Americans need to strive their eyes towards is,

00:30:42.660 like, the idea of, you know, European ethno-nationalist concepts.

00:30:48.540 And here, for example, I like to postulate with the idea of, you know, the Europe of fatherlands.

00:30:55.680 I think a shared ideal of that for white people in the United States in terms of the fact that,

00:31:04.520 yes, you will work for reclaiming your individual states and afterwards making them into more fitting fatherlands

00:31:12.920 without the influence of the White House.

00:31:16.740 Afterwards, you know, you can cooperate and coordinate inside yourselves

00:31:22.640 and step-by-step through ideas of complete Aryan victory.

00:31:27.380 You can take back what is rightfully yours, your blood and soil. 0.99

00:31:31.560 I think that's perfect.

00:31:33.180 I think there's two phenomena that are going to develop very soon.

00:31:38.300 Number one, the collapse of the American economy, the collapse of the dollar.

00:31:42.020 This system can't last much longer.

00:31:43.820 I can't – there's no mathematical way to get out of that.

00:31:47.760 Number two, any war with a substantial power, Russia or China specifically, the U.S. is going to lose.

00:31:55.920 And whether those things happen at the same time or not, there will be no more legitimacy in Washington, D.C. at all.

00:32:01.700 And my personal opinion is that the U.S. will then devolve for the best, I think, into its regional identities, 0.79

00:32:07.960 whether it's South, New England, California, whatever.

00:32:10.840 I don't think that's a terrible thing.

00:32:12.180 But I think it may be inevitable if one of those two things will both occur.

00:32:19.960 Yeah.

00:32:20.860 If something is falling, push it.

00:32:23.860 And I think that is a very strong idea to keep on to.

00:32:26.260 I mean, I am a big supporter and endorser of two American projects that I inherently support.

00:32:33.180 Now I'm primarily referring to the Northwest Front, the Buttle Plan, the Northwest Imperative.

00:32:40.040 I'm a big supporter of that and Mr. Covington's ideas.

00:32:43.780 And likewise, I'm a major supporter of the TVP's glorious idea of retaking the self.

00:32:50.640 With these two concepts, I mean, I think these two movements inherently have – they're on the right path in that regard because they are aiming towards that goal, which you explained, Dr. Johnson.

00:33:05.280 I think when we reach a crisis level, either economically or politically or militarily, with debts that can't be paid, secession is becoming – the media is not talking about it – but secession is becoming mainstream, especially in places like Texas, California and Alaska.

00:33:22.020 And the less legitimacy in Washington, D.C., the stronger that's going to become.

00:33:28.620 And there's nothing, historically, that nothing will lead to that more like a lost war.

00:33:32.980 Yeah. 0.99

00:33:33.540 America is a cancer upon the whole world. 1.00

00:33:36.340 That's right. 0.99

00:33:37.580 I mean, you can even see how they break down every European culture here. 0.97

00:33:41.220 You have American TV shows.

00:33:42.540 You have American food.

00:33:43.620 You have American – even English words being imported now.

00:33:47.980 You have Norwegians almost speaking more English than a Norwegian when they talk to each other. 0.99

00:33:53.400 It's insane.

00:33:54.640 Yeah. 0.99

00:33:55.860 It's a fucking disgrace watching how – 1.00

00:33:58.460 America is nothing but the rabbi's golem. 1.00

00:34:00.660 That's what America is. 1.00

00:34:01.220 America needs to burn.

00:34:05.440 Of course, figuratively, I'm a very peaceful, loyal, democratic citizen.

00:34:10.400 Well, if you were in America, you could say that.

00:34:13.260 Violence in the abstract.

00:34:14.340 But anyway, there's a very gestalt –

00:34:16.460 Yeah, there's a very gestalt illustration at this point in the HBO miniseries Generation Kill,

00:34:22.520 which is about the 2003 invasion of Iraq by some recon marines.

00:34:26.920 And one of the marines, as we're counting to another, he was talking about,

00:34:30.220 oh, you know, so our unit rolled into this village,

00:34:33.020 and some of the soldiers thought it would be funny to distribute, you know,

00:34:35.940 American pornography magazines to, you know, young Iraqi boys.

00:34:40.860 And, you know, an old man came out of the house and, you know, started yelling about how they were, you know,

00:34:46.800 destroying their culture, et cetera, et cetera.

00:34:48.920 And they, you know, they wouldn't calm down.

00:34:51.440 And so they shot him.

00:34:53.820 Wow.

00:34:54.140 And then, yeah, and this precipitated more violence in the village, and they had to shoot several other people.

00:34:59.720 Now, my impression is that this was based on the book and the observations of a reporter who was there at the time.

00:35:05.660 So it's got some sort of grounding in truth.

00:35:07.340 But that is essentially what the United States does, is it shoots people and then gives them pornography.

00:35:11.660 I was outraged when the military was just beginning, after 9-11, there was this organized worship. 0.66

00:35:19.380 I mean, I loathe the U.S. military.

00:35:21.860 The officer, typical officer now, is making six figures.

00:35:25.480 If he's broad, he gets 10% tax-free added to that salary.

00:35:29.040 He can retire after 20 years with a 75% pension with no income limit.

00:35:33.720 They're fighting these ragtag group of people.

00:35:36.400 You know, they never fought regulars.

00:35:37.360 When was the last time they fought regulars?

00:35:38.460 From the air, they're attacking targets they can't shoot back. 1.00

00:35:43.240 They're cowards. 0.99

00:35:44.980 And you told me that story. 0.99

00:35:46.240 I've heard similar stories over the years.

00:35:49.240 They're completely desensitized.

00:35:51.180 However, we have now a desertion crisis that no one's talking about, where you've had something like 30,000 desertions since 2006.

00:35:59.780 That's not been seen since the Civil War. 0.98

00:36:02.980 Soldiers, especially the grunts, they're not fighting for this crap anymore. 0.99

00:36:06.700 And that's becoming a huge crisis. 1.00

00:36:08.460 Yes, I know.

00:36:10.720 We're not fighting in 2012 when it was looking like they were going to go into Syria.

00:36:14.060 I remember there was kind of a huge organic uproar among the, you know, among grunts and among other, you know, seamen and soldiers where they were basically saying, well, you know, I'm not going to fight a war in Syria.

00:36:27.900 You know, they were openly talking about deserting and encouraging people against this quite organically.

00:36:33.620 You know, going back to this, the system of national dissolution and regional reconstruction that has been described is something that we also – I want to do a shout-out to my friend Masonius Rufus.

00:36:46.120 He runs Rebel Yell, which is the Southern Nationalist podcast.

00:36:49.280 And this is something that we've talked about several times on the show before, that any strong state is built of strong communities and that it is from the bottom up that any long-term successful national institutions are constructed, not the other way around.

00:37:07.060 And so, you know, short of a fascist party taking over government and imposing totalitarian rule, you know, 1933 style, that is really the only option.

00:37:19.720 Well, the state and the nation are extensions of the family.

00:37:24.640 That's exactly correct.

00:37:26.240 Not even just metaphorical.

00:37:27.620 You know, the monarch is the father of the nation.

00:37:31.440 You know, the nation is really a group of extended families coming together, you know, joining for self-protection.

00:37:37.060 But it's more than metaphorical.

00:37:39.000 It's actually true.

00:37:40.740 The minute the family starts falling apart or being redefined, that's it.

00:37:44.460 The state becomes this abstraction, isolated from the population.

00:37:47.940 And by the way, this is exactly what the anti-federalists said would happen during the convention debates and why they refused to sign the Constitution because, you know, they had actually predicted the American empire developing the monetization of the economy and everything else that would lead to this abstract state in D.C.

00:38:03.580 that controls everything via private interest.

00:38:07.060 Well, America has this Rome thing going on, it seems like.

00:38:11.920 Without the style of person.

00:38:12.840 They are the new Babylonian empire.

00:38:14.640 Yeah, the new Babylonian empire.

00:38:16.460 I mean, how can a human being be so desensitized like those soldiers who did that in Iraq, shot that tribal leader?

00:38:23.660 Well, partially because of the worship over the last 20 years.

00:38:28.840 I mean, I've seen these guys, you know, they walk into a diner and everything is paid for.

00:38:35.240 They're venerated as deities.

00:38:37.880 And I'm not seeing them.

00:38:38.720 They haven't fought a regular, you know, it would be like Mike Tyson breaking into my house and beating the crap out of me because I'm a threat to him somehow.

00:38:44.780 Yeah.

00:38:45.500 Yeah.

00:38:45.980 This is cowardly.

00:38:47.880 They're attacking people that can't shoot back.

00:38:50.360 Exactly.

00:38:51.040 And now they're using drones as well. 0.99

00:38:53.540 Just imagine when shit hits the fan in Sweden and stuff will happen here. 0.97

00:38:59.740 Well, you have these American drones. 1.00

00:39:01.200 You have these American drones and they will be killed in normal, healthy Swedes. 0.99

00:39:04.540 Maybe even myself. 1.00

00:39:05.420 Who the fuck knows? 0.99

00:39:07.060 And how will Americans react? 1.00

00:39:11.460 I mean, it's white people, so it doesn't matter. 0.99

00:39:13.480 It's not racist.

00:39:14.960 Yeah.

00:39:15.220 Well, and this is, I think this is, we talked about earlier the degeneration of language, but I think also this abstraction of violence is, these are hallmarks of the Kali Yuga, of the impending eschaton.

00:39:27.600 Evola talks about in his Benefits of War how with the advent of industrialized warfare, personal combat doesn't really mean anything.

00:39:34.840 You know, it's an abstraction.

00:39:36.440 I mean, it's artillery teams, you know, firing 60 miles away from a target and killing, you know, hundreds, thousands of people that they never even see, that they, you know, they won't smell their corpses, they know nothing about.

00:39:48.860 It's drone operators sitting in Langley, Virginia, you know, blowing up Arab wedding parties.

00:39:55.040 You know, it's, it's, and all this stuff.

00:39:57.980 It's like a video game.

00:39:59.340 Yes.

00:39:59.900 Yes, it is.

00:40:00.780 You know, and I, I remember that I had this very, a very poignant experience of this when I was a teenager and, you know, the immensely popular video game Call of Duty 4 came out and it was kind of infamous because there was a, a level in it where you, you played, you know, you were essentially a gunship operator.

00:40:19.560 And, you know, you were looking through a thermal camera and you were shooting, you know, these people.

00:40:23.340 And it was, if you put it side by side with a real, you know, a real footage from a helicopter gunship or from, you know, an AC-130 gunship, it's almost identical.

00:40:34.040 Wow.

00:40:34.280 It's almost identical.

00:40:34.740 I mean, maybe, you know, I don't want to sound too much for tinfoil hat, but maybe, maybe games like that is just a way to desensitize potential recruits.

00:40:46.280 I mean, you, you grow up playing all those games and eventually when you actually do it in front of the drone control seat, it, you know, it's not that much difference.

00:40:53.220 But it's still on a, it's still on a screen.

00:40:55.060 It's totally abstract.

00:40:56.100 I don't think it's crazy at all.

00:40:57.260 That's, that's actually something that Colonel Steve Grossman discusses at length in his book, On Killing, which, interestingly enough, I, I read while deployed in Iraq in, during the invasion.

00:41:16.700 I got a lot of interesting looks on that one.

00:41:18.860 But, uh, yeah, it, it, it talks about how psychological distance is, is, is, uh, uh, so important it could be considered a force multiplier to, uh, uh, military action.

00:41:35.760 That's right.

00:41:36.420 And what these conservatives don't realize, um, is the U.S. is the bad guy, obviously, but the U.S., they're promoting liberalism.

00:41:43.920 They're going into an area, they're destroying, you know, more traditional, let's say, you know, Arabic, uh, like the Ba'ath party or Islamic movements.

00:41:51.440 And they're imposing, you know, feminism and legal abortion and usury and everything else.

00:41:55.660 You know, they're, they're imposing, people don't even realize that.

00:41:58.220 Yes, I am.

00:41:58.760 These conservatives are, are, are, you know, venerating the military, not realizing that they're imposing, um, uh, uh, leftist, uh, regimes on these people.

00:42:07.640 Yeah. 0.97

00:42:08.560 I mean, pornography, you know, they shoot you in and give you pornography.

00:42:11.020 That's, that's pretty much what I mean.

00:42:11.940 Well, I mean, their leadership realizes this, but, um, you know, Joe Pancake does not.

00:42:19.020 Um, now, moving, moving on with our, um, so, you know.

00:42:25.820 Joe Pancake, I've never heard that one before.

00:42:27.480 Yeah, Joe, you know, Joe Pancake, Joe Bag of Bacon, yeah.

00:42:31.900 You know, Johnny Pancakes.

00:42:33.580 What is the, so we talked about this a little bit, you know, we touched on it.

00:42:36.360 So, you know, in your opinion, what is the way forward for, um, North American ethno-nationalists?

00:42:43.160 Um, we've talked about how, well, there are kind of natural organic factors that are going to, you know, precipitate our action.

00:42:49.320 You know, the dissolution of central authority and the state apparatus being the most conspicuous among them.

00:42:53.900 Um, but do, do you think the Trump election changes anything for how we ought to operate or what we ought to be doing?

00:43:00.540 Um, you know, what kind of scenario do you think will lead to the creation of the type of government we're interested in speaking about?

00:43:08.320 A lot of that may depend on how long these, this violence is going to last.

00:43:15.820 Um, they promised this.

00:43:18.080 The regime promised this.

00:43:19.360 Black Lives Matter and more elite forces, too, promised they're going to make the country ungovernable. 1.00

00:43:24.180 A whole bunch of, um, Republicans said that no matter what happens, whatever he does, we're going to send it to court.

00:43:29.780 We're going to sue him.

00:43:30.660 We're going to make him absolutely immobile.

00:43:32.380 Uh, I think, uh, I think, I don't think this is really a bad thing because the battle lines now are so clear.

00:43:41.320 Um, and we're going to have to be, um, we're going to be prepared to defend ourselves and not just, you know, running over guys on the highway, which unfortunately I haven't had a chance to do yet.

00:43:54.300 I only have a Corolla, so, you know, that might be, you know, that might actually hurt me.

00:43:58.460 But, um, it depends on how long this is going to last.

00:44:01.580 I remember in Syria, uh, you had these, these, um, protests that then became violent protests that then became armed protests.

00:44:10.620 Now, you have a Hispanic movement in the southern part of the country that is extremely numerous, unified, has a strong infrastructure, a few guns from the gangs.

00:44:20.760 I mean, this isn't a crazy, uh, scenario here.

00:44:25.200 So you're telling me the race war is coming?

00:44:27.940 I'm not telling you that at all.

00:44:29.240 I'm just saying that that's a, that's a, that's a possibility.

00:44:31.900 Um, and it's not, it's not ludicrous to see how that might work out.

00:44:36.600 Uh, it could dissipate in a few weeks, you know, and things back to normal.

00:44:42.480 Yeah.

00:44:42.640 Well, this is going to be, I, I, I think personally that the, what I really inherently think is, is going to happen, uh, in the United States is, I think you're going to, like, I, I, I, I think personally that the, what I really inherently think is, is going to happen, uh, in the United States is,

00:44:54.740 I think you're going to, like, I, I, essentially, all these white people and these, uh, borderline white nationalist people that have been voting for the Republican Party this election will soon wake up to smell the ashes of the fact that maybe, just maybe, really what is being done right now in terms of politics is nothing more but, you know, uh, appeasement of the masses to a minimalistic degree.

00:45:19.060 Um, I think that a lot of people are going to become very, very, uh, disillusioned and very angry about the fact that, you know, they're going to realize that, no, nothing has essentially changed by my vote and, well, all that has really been done now is that we have managed to put, um, a small holes on the brown masses coming into the United States. 1.00

00:45:41.920 So, I think that the prospects for radicalization of more, uh, white nationalists, um, is, is very, very likely to happen, uh, especially as they realize that mainstream politics has left them down, especially with such a prominent and, what we would call by modern standards, a radical, you know, individuals like Trump to get elected in.

00:46:02.580 So, I think as people awaken, and, again, let's just put it this way, uh, blacks, they, they don't care if you vote a Democrat. 0.90

00:46:13.400 They don't. They, they see you as, you know, something to either, uh, deposit their genetic legacy into through force or something to, to butcher with a, with a stone for the mere aspect of entertainment.

00:46:27.640 So, really, what this boils down to is, I think white people are going to become more racially aware, like a lot of cell phoneers are already, but, I think that a lot of the middle classes, the working class peoples in the United States is going to wake up to smell the ashes of the reality that, yeah, ethnic tensions, they're at an all-time high, and, at some point, I sincerely believe that the white man, with his renewed perspective on this world, 0.59

00:46:56.000 is going to stand out from getting kicked for so fucking long, and, you know, maybe start bashing in some heads himself in, you know, defense of his own well-being.

00:47:06.640 I, you know, I, I've come to that conclusion, but then, the next day, I reject it. I, um, it's so, it's, it's, it makes sense, because now, your average Republican can't talk about this situation without talking in racial terms. 0.97

00:47:18.820 It's impossible. It's impossible. Uh, the, the, the election campaign, the immigration issue, there's no way. 0.98

00:47:25.460 So, radicalization, it's just, you know, this is now a day-to-day, a mainstream part of it, of the vocabulary, which is why the regime is so upset, uh, with, with Trump's victory.

00:47:34.720 Um, and, go ahead.

00:47:38.120 Go ahead. Sorry.

00:47:39.540 No, I, I just, um, I'm not as optimistic about, uh, white organization quite yet.

00:47:46.000 You know, they're so well-armed. We are so well-armed by comparison.

00:47:50.200 Um, if they didn't do anything after they were forced to bail out the banks a few years ago, and, you know, millions lost pensions and everything else, I don't know.

00:47:59.540 I'm, I'm, I want to be as optimistic as you are, but, um, uh, I think things are going to have to get, again, economic collapse, a lost war, things may change.

00:48:08.440 But, but as of right now, um, but on, on, a point for you would be that these riots and this violence and blocking traffic and everything else in every major city, you might be right.

00:48:18.040 There may be, there's a point when the white guys get angry, and then that's going to be it for them.

00:48:22.060 Yeah, and there are two points.

00:48:23.260 I mean, what?

00:48:24.960 No, no, I think.

00:48:25.720 Sorry.

00:48:26.460 We can start to point here.

00:48:27.680 Number one, Dr. Johnson, you are sounding eerily familiar to many of our, uh, more pessimistic acquaintances.

00:48:32.800 Um, you know, we had other shows, um, you know, over at Iron March, there are several people who certainly are, are of that mind.

00:48:42.300 They basically believe that the United States, whites in the United States, will not become radicalized until, yeah, a war, collapse of government authority, or, um, economic, uh, desperation induces hunger.

00:48:53.380 And they actually have to analyze where real, uh, capital comes from, you know, how they eat, what are the structures of survival, as you put, that they can rely on to live.

00:49:04.040 Yeah.

00:49:04.600 The second one is that, um, actually, please go on, uh, John.

00:49:09.440 Yeah, I just want to add there that it really needs to crash first.

00:49:13.960 I mean, I live in Sweden.

00:49:15.260 It's pretty, it's pretty, uh, special here, let's just say that.

00:49:18.440 And, uh, we've had cases where Muslims have, you know, weapons in their mosques and all that stuff.

00:49:24.620 And people don't care. 0.99

00:49:26.060 Uh, their daughters get raped. 0.99

00:49:27.860 They don't care. 1.00

00:49:28.600 That's literally a story I've read. 0.91

00:49:30.160 Some guy's daughter got raped and he didn't care about it. 0.90

00:49:32.720 Eh, eh, I shouldn't be racist. 0.88

00:49:34.720 This is no excuse to, to fuel hatred and all that stuff.

00:49:38.660 So, it really needs a crash first.

00:49:41.080 And when they're hungry, they would crawl back to the first national soup kitchen. 0.90

00:49:45.440 And they would say, you know, this Hitler guy, maybe, you know, maybe he had some points after all. 0.89

00:49:51.900 What we need to keep in mind in terms of the, at some point, imminent collapse is the fact that as long as the federal reserves keep inflating the valuta we have, the economy, because that is what they're doing, they're mass inflating the entirety of the economical system in Europe and in America.

00:50:11.140 Okay, it's all based on deliberate, flawed calculations.

00:50:15.400 So, they're going to keep fabricating and creating hyperinflation just to keep this mess going.

00:50:21.280 I mean, even in Sweden, they borrowed, what was it, 18 billion euros to make sure, actually, I think it was even more than that, an immense amount of money just to these Swedish states so they could, you know, furthermore continue this madness, this social experiment.

00:50:37.080 Support more savages, exactly. And we even have a negative interest rate. We have a negative interest rate in the central bank here. I don't know how that's possible, but apparently this.

00:50:46.740 Well, that's the beauty of keep, you know, if you can print money. But here is the thing, and this is why I maintain my optimism.

00:50:55.620 Now, I often gaze at Greece with great admiration in my eyes. And that is merely because of the fact that the way they have been building up their structure for so very, very long, just for the right moment, when everything cracked down, they could actually rise in such immense numbers.

00:51:16.620 When I say this, I say that, likewise, the Americans should take heed of this. Right now, as of now, Trump is not going to save the white race. And I guess that I need to inform people again that Donald R. Trump is not Adolf Hitler.

00:51:33.760 I know that you have seen a lot of cool memes. Yeah, I know I'm just talking to you, the listener. You might be sitting there, you know, with your elbow on the table, you know, mildly disinterested, clicking around, looking at Twitter while you are listening to this brilliant podcast.

00:51:50.660 You might have seen some of those Donald Trump, equal Adolf Hitler memes, right? You might be seeing him, seeing him in like this Renaissance style paintings.

00:52:00.020 And you think to yourself that, you think to yourself that, yes, he's now the monarch of the white race. He's finally going to showcase his saber. He's going to rise into the air with banners in the wind, gloriously screaming, charge as you smite the brown masses. 1.00

00:52:15.560 It's not going to happen. I'm sorry to tell you, it's not going to happen. What ultimately has been achieved now is four years for you to organize.

00:52:24.080 What I can recommend is that people take further more time to spread the word. And I see a lot of motivated people who are spreading the word and essentially trying their best to organize.

00:52:35.660 As of now, the liberal media is severely defecating in their pants. They're terrified and they're now blaming the fact that Donald Trump won the election on the basis of the fact that fake stories, as they put them, you know, how fake they are can be debated because the sources are all related to WikiLeaks.

00:52:55.140 But regardless, they're now starting to crack down on right-wing media. So what we need to do is, again, they can't punish us through the federal means as of right now.

00:53:06.280 What they can do, however, is attack us through the media. So what the American peoples of the right ethnic stock, and I'm now referring to white Americans, 0.66

00:53:16.260 is that they inherently need to organize and start some structure building.

00:53:20.840 That is what the Golden Dawn essentially did, because the ultimate goal as of now is for the American population to be able to, let's just say,

00:53:31.060 undermine the state through actually replacing the state, a state within a state.

00:53:37.940 And what I mean by that is, and I have talked about this on previous podcasts, I believe,

00:53:43.020 what we can understand is that if you can organize enough people and put enough resources together,

00:53:49.800 that means that you'll have to apply standards before quantity, right?

00:53:53.560 Quality over quantity. You need to have good members in your organization.

00:53:57.600 But as you build the structure, you'll have more resources available.

00:54:01.100 As you have resources available, you will be able to inherently take away the glory of the state by helping out your own kindred, right? 0.81

00:54:09.600 If people in your local area, and this is why I find it very, very important that we prioritize regions rather than the entirety of, like, a centralized unity,

00:54:18.600 so you need to be capable of doing the jobs that the state inherently is incapable of doing as of right now.

00:54:26.000 If you have some people in your region that, for an example, is starving, help them out.

00:54:30.480 Essentially, gain the trust of your local populace. That is what the Golden Dawn did.

00:54:34.380 If you're capable of showcasing yourself as, you know, the savior type in the eyes of your people,

00:54:39.760 you will be able to amass much more support.

00:54:42.480 Because, inherently speaking, people don't give two pots of piss about political correctness.

00:54:47.440 Inherently. They only say that in public to make themselves look, like, morally superior.

00:54:51.660 But when show comes to show, they will rather listen to the people that inherently secured the well-being of their children

00:54:58.500 and help them out in tough times, rather than some left-leaning sodomite

00:55:05.480 who blabbers on about more human rights and empty promises.

00:55:10.600 I came to that exact same conclusion when I first read Pierre-Joseph Prudhomme.

00:55:16.140 The theory is that at the local level, we begin organizing everything from credit unions to soup kitchens,

00:55:21.600 you know, reading rooms, whatever it is, then over time, we take things that the state,

00:55:27.760 and even the enemy private sector, used to do.

00:55:31.480 We slowly but surely take over these areas, and then if we begin communicating with other regions,

00:55:36.460 we make the state more or less irrelevant.

00:55:38.940 Now, that's highly ideal.

00:55:41.340 My problem with that, and that's kind of been my foundation for how to do this without a revolution,

00:55:46.680 a violent revolution, simply render the state relevant, like the Amish. 1.00

00:55:50.060 But Golden Dawn has done that.

00:55:52.040 The Golden Dawn has done that, and they did that with great success.

00:55:54.740 Right.

00:55:57.060 The problem is, do we have the people?

00:56:00.940 And are the people mature enough?

00:56:02.760 I mean, how many of these memes are you seeing that Trump is going to, you know, repeal Obamacare?

00:56:08.660 Well, no, people are actually calling him the God Emperor.

00:56:11.900 It started out as a joke, but that's, you know, the force of propaganda.

00:56:16.660 That is how people think, God Emperor Trump.

00:56:18.560 But do they not realize that the president doesn't have the power?

00:56:22.780 No, they don't care. 0.99

00:56:25.120 It's ridiculous. 0.97

00:56:26.920 They just want a guy that they want to worship, essentially. 0.98

00:56:33.180 That's right.

00:56:33.380 It's like Caesarism.

00:56:34.300 I think people are naturally that way, that they seem to think that presidents are dictators,

00:56:39.140 that Trump is going to Trump's tax plan.

00:56:42.300 Well, he can't have a tax plan.

00:56:43.700 It has to come from Congress.

00:56:45.320 You know, they seem to have this natural – it's like an archetype of this father figure that's going to swoop in and make everything okay.

00:56:52.440 That seems to be this drive.

00:56:53.920 Everyone seems to have this natural monarchism, not realizing that our – but our people, including smart people, don't seem to know that the president doesn't have this kind of power.

00:57:02.420 So my point is, building these structures, which is what we have no choice but to do, I just fear that we don't have the maturity and the men to make this work over time.

00:57:13.260 That's my problem.

00:57:13.800 I want to be wrong on that, though.

00:57:16.320 What I think we need to realize is that from a general – the general population of any nation, I think that only 5% of the entirety of a population of every nation is like what you call ideologues, people who inspire the flames of optimism in other people, right?

00:57:33.380 As of right now, what we see with all these people who believe that Trump is literally the god emperor is this blind optimism, this intoxicating sense of hope.

00:57:43.800 Now, I'm just going to steal a bit from Harold Covington in this one from his brilliant podcast, Radio 3 Northwest, where he has sincerely explained how white people for the first time is actually sensing this feeling of hope, right? 0.50

00:58:01.940 This feeling of hope, and it's very intoxicating, and they don't really want to let go of that feeling of hope.

00:58:07.340 But what ultimately we can make out of this is the fact that I think that people are going to, at some point, become motivated to do something.

00:58:19.260 Because, like, just look at Sweden here a couple of days ago.

00:58:22.640 There was this glorious march led by the – what was it called?

00:58:27.440 Like the Nordic Resistance Movement.

00:58:28.980 Of which members of this podcast were in attendance.

00:58:31.260 Yeah, it was great.

00:58:32.260 Oh, yeah.

00:58:32.620 Yeah.

00:58:34.580 Beliefly in for evolution outside of Parliament.

00:58:39.420 Yes.

00:58:40.340 But, yeah, that's the thing.

00:58:41.460 Like, I think that the thing is, like, there will always be, like, this minority that will create a narrative and create a sense of what needs to be done.

00:58:50.360 And if people view it as pragmatical, they will follow.

00:58:54.240 And so, right now, I'm not going to base – become hyper-pessimistic about the entire situation because of a few autistic people who think that Donald Trump is literally Adolf Hitler. 0.88

00:59:04.560 I am rather going to say that they're going to mature.

00:59:07.380 There are – at some point, they're going to smell, you know, they're going to have that dunce of fresh air to their mind.

00:59:14.460 And they will realize that we are not voting our way out of this one, are we?

00:59:17.920 And I think as that happens, that is when people will start to actually understand the sincerity and the seriousness of the situation we're in.

00:59:25.420 Because, let me just remind you all, we are very now – at this very moment, at the 11th hour of a people's existence.

00:59:32.320 As of right now, we only have very little spiritual integrity left in our fatherlands and in our populations.

00:59:39.460 And when that is being mentioned, let me likewise address the fact that if we – if the last bastions of what makes our people's integrity what it is,

00:59:47.500 as soon as the last bit of spirituality is crushed out of our racist body, at that very point, whatever death and fate that awaits us is just a formality.

00:59:58.880 As soon as the last bastions of European spirituality and obedience to the one true faith, which is Christendom, when death dies out, whatever happens to us is just a formality.

01:00:12.600 If Christendom dies within us, we are already dead.

01:00:15.280 This is a bit what Spengler called brave pessimism, I believe.

01:00:22.760 That if things are totally hopeless, it's still irrelevant because you're still going to stick to the ideal.

01:00:29.980 If you don't stick to the ideal, everything you have is essentially hedonism.

01:00:34.620 Hedonism, hedonism, hedonism, hedonism.

01:00:36.440 That's already a death.

01:00:37.860 And on that note, I think we've come to the end of our first hour, so I want to ask our guests to –

01:00:43.300 If I may throw one last thing in.

01:00:46.700 I think we need to get over this idea that we're ever going to have the mass movement and the torch-lit processions in streets.

01:00:56.980 The masses are already gone.

01:01:00.920 They are already cocooned in a virtual reality.

01:01:04.460 And the only thing that will wake them up is when the day comes and there are crew-served weapons mowing people down.

01:01:13.080 Then they will suddenly ask themselves, how did we get here?

01:01:16.760 Right?

01:01:16.960 So individuals who are capable of hearing and have eyes to see need to be preparing for that day so that they will be able to lead others who will suddenly be lost without those future leaders.

01:01:36.960 This is really a really good point you're bringing forth here, Doc Savage, because this is really what I think a lot of us who are sitting here listening,

01:01:46.860 and hopefully people who are listening right now are not hyper-autistic and have some social skills. 0.84

01:01:52.400 We all know, I think that the average person who listens to this will ideally become someone who is capable of actually trying to tell people what is actually going on if shit gets real.

01:02:04.840 And when I point that out, I really hope that, as you say, people will be able to take some of the masses by the hand and hopefully guide them towards some sort of stability, if you will.

01:02:18.500 That is the purpose of this podcast.

01:02:20.360 I mean, if you're listening right now, I say this without any LARPiness, without any exaggeration, but you are the vanguard.

01:02:32.540 Because there's nobody else if we don't do it.

01:02:34.840 The entire history of our people, everything that our ancestors have done, rests on us.

01:02:40.420 And if nobody else does it, then that's it.

01:02:43.840 Because we're really, we're the only ones.

01:02:46.000 There's nobody else.

01:02:47.480 So if you're listening to this, I just want to say, you know, this is your cross. 0.84

01:02:54.440 And you need to shoulder it.

01:02:55.620 All right, now, excellent first hour.

01:02:59.780 I think we'll go to break, and then we'll come back for hopefully a second hour where we will discuss orthodoxy.

01:03:06.100 Yeah.

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01:43:30.340 human mind

01:43:32.340 pública

01:43:58.340 Civil War refused to do that. They never put out an ideological statement that an ordinary person can read. But the communists and the liberals were geniuses, and they knew how to mobilize the average people using the stupidest, appealing to them with their very lowest passion.

01:44:15.240 And both the aristocracy and the royal families refused to do it. They refused to form royalist parties because a party is opposed to the idea of the monarchical state in general. It's almost a contradiction to have a royalist political party. And you're absolutely right, and that's one of the reasons that they lost. Had they embraced propaganda, I think, intellectually, they would have leaned forward with these people, but they never did. 0.93

01:44:40.520 Even at the very end, even the White Army refused to do it, as they're even losing.

01:44:44.780 And this is why, frankly, Andrew Anglin is the most important person in the alt-right he owns the Daily Stormer. I mean, the Daily Stormer is living proof of this principle.

01:44:52.640 I mean, it's 20 to 50 times bigger than the next largest far-right website. It's 20 million, I think, unique views a month. I mean, it's just that it is the gold standard.

01:45:06.260 And, you know, people, they look at it, and they're like, wow, you know, it's vulgar. Why can't you do this with the vulgarity?

01:45:11.080 Well, you know, you've never read Mein Kampf. Just a very basic introduction is that, you know, when you're trying to reach, you know, the maximum acceptable population, you appeal to the lowest common denominator.

01:45:22.960 And America is vulgar.

01:45:23.960 That's right. But you know what? You can have fun with it, too. You know, one-liners, if you're good at it, you can use humor. You can make fun of them and mock our opponents. They're so easy to make fun of and to parody.

01:45:34.320 There's a certain humor in that. We could have some fun with it. It can be vulgar and stupid.

01:45:41.480 But making fun of them, using comedy and parody and satire, yeah, I think it can be used, and I've used it before. 0.99

01:45:51.160 And it can be fun. It doesn't necessarily have to be infantile.

01:45:54.080 Yeah, well, I mean, and that is what the, that is what one of the big, you know, aims of propagandists that both the Daily Stormer and Iron March is that, you know, that fascism is fun, that this movement is fun, that this is where the, you know, the youthful energy is at, that it is the liberals and the Marxists who are kind of the stuffy, you know, Jewish bureaucrats smoking cigars in dimly lit rooms. 0.93

01:46:19.140 Yeah, they're like the, they're the grumpy old man, like, we're the new cool kids wearing the acid wash, the leather jackets.

01:46:26.860 We're wearing our caps backwards, we're having our pack of cigarettes in our inner pockets.

01:46:30.760 You know, we're the cool kids. We like to skateboard on a skateboard on the sidewalk.

01:46:35.240 And in this case, the sidewalk is human rights.

01:46:41.740 And the skateboard is fascism.

01:46:43.800 It's brilliant.

01:46:45.080 Yes!

01:46:45.480 When I started grad school, my advisor was an anarchist, Lyman Tower Sergeant, University of Missouri, St. Louis.

01:46:51.660 And he was okay, he was okay to me, but he would demand that I use, you know, gender neutral pronouns and stuff like that.

01:47:00.100 And I would say, you know, he would say, well, that's how we do things now.

01:47:04.080 And I said, wait a minute, I thought you were an anarchist.

01:47:06.320 You're demanding me, I'd do anything.

01:47:08.240 And that's your authority, that this is how we do things now?

01:47:10.320 And I said, Lyman, I said, you're the stuffy bureaucrat now.

01:47:15.360 You know, shave your beard and wear a suit because you sound like an imperial bureaucrat, the way that you're simply demanding this.

01:47:23.180 And you don't even need to give me an explanation.

01:47:25.780 You're using your power as a chairman of the department to impose this kind of stuff.

01:47:29.900 What kind of an anarchist does that?

01:47:31.820 And there's no question he felt that.

01:47:33.940 That's what happens when you go with ideologies that is being enabled by the state.

01:47:41.780 And inherently, it's nothing more but a, what we call, a legalized, rebellious understanding of ideology, right, by the state. 0.99

01:47:50.020 I mean, the state essentially is okay with anarchism because, you know, it's just useful idiots in the service of the state. 0.99

01:47:57.440 Like, oh, you're an anarchist? 1.00

01:47:58.880 Well, they must really hate racists and nationalists, huh? 1.00

01:48:02.740 Yeah, you know, essentially, like, all these people are just useful idiots. 1.00

01:48:07.400 Well, there's a tough guy aspect of anarchism. 1.00

01:48:10.120 You know, he must be crazy.

01:48:11.460 You know, you get away from him. 0.79

01:48:13.440 There was actually a case in Sweden where the anti-fascists, you know, the anarchists and all the reds basically got exposed by being used by the security service. 0.67

01:48:27.360 That's an extremely important point, and it's a great line for us to make fun of them.

01:48:31.120 You go to all these liberal NGOs.

01:48:33.780 You go to Black Lives Matter.

01:48:35.440 You go to La Raza, and you see the laundry list of corporate donors.

01:48:41.000 How radical can these guys be if American Express is their primary controller?

01:48:46.840 And they have to report it because they're a nonprofit organization, so they have to report it.

01:48:50.940 And saying how corporate America is extremely liberal, if not radical, and they're financing all these guys, that's – it pulls the rug out from under these people.

01:49:01.460 That's a brilliant point, showing that and making fun of that and, like, Hillary being controlled by Wall Street and everything else.

01:49:07.300 And that's very important.

01:49:09.440 I enjoy doing that.

01:49:11.960 All right.

01:49:12.560 Now, we're coming up on two hours, so we're going to move a little bit more exponentially.

01:49:17.400 The last question I have perhaps for Orthodoxy is why is there not more Orthodox missionary activity?

01:49:22.740 Well, I think there is in different parts of the world.

01:49:29.140 In America, I think they're simply too insecure.

01:49:31.940 I think that there's too many jurisdictions.

01:49:35.320 There's too many bishops.

01:49:37.300 I think also in the English-speaking world, it's so esoteric that it's really hard to even talk about it.

01:49:44.480 Protestant and Catholic theologians know almost nothing about Orthodoxy.

01:49:48.120 Even today, I don't think there's a mature intellectual core of Orthodox people to engage in missionary work.

01:49:55.760 However, that's not the case in Russia.

01:49:58.000 I think there's, on average, 300 churches being either restored or built every week.

01:50:04.620 It's a huge explosion, and not just in Russia but in the near abroad as well.

01:50:09.060 So it is occurring there.

01:50:10.440 It's occurring in Serbia and traditionally Orthodox people, places.

01:50:14.340 But in the United States, it's still immature.

01:50:18.540 It's still jurisdictionally divided and deeply Masonic in the Serbian church,

01:50:24.840 and the Greek church is very Masonic, unfortunately, at the upper levels.

01:50:28.680 And it's too divided and too immature intellectually to engage in that.

01:50:34.080 But you will agree that it has great potential, right?

01:50:37.580 That spreading Orthodoxy is something that has the potential to happen, right? 1.00

01:50:44.340 It's the fastest-growing mainline religion in America.

01:50:46.620 I think it is – as other groups fall into liberalism, it is going to, by default anyway, continue to grow.

01:50:56.940 It has tremendous potential.

01:50:58.940 It's the best-kept secret in this country right now.

01:51:00.600 And as people are legitimately searching for a home, they're not going to the homosexualized, the Judaized churches, which is almost everybody now. 1.00

01:51:09.320 Orthodoxy remains really almost by default the sole place to go.

01:51:14.240 The only other option would be like the SSPX, the Roman church that I was a part of at one time.

01:51:19.180 But I think they're mostly back with the Roman pope today.

01:51:24.200 Yeah, it looks like they're reuniting.

01:51:25.520 Yeah, yeah.

01:51:26.040 So Orthodoxy remains pretty much alone here.

01:51:28.540 And so, yeah, tremendous potential, but it's still kind of arcane to the average American.

01:51:33.780 Yeah.

01:51:37.120 I agree.

01:51:37.940 So we're going to move into the Cali Yuga news section of the show.

01:51:42.060 So, you know, we're going to cover less stories than we usually do because, you know, I don't want this podcast to run three hours, although it probably could run, you know, much longer than that.

01:51:53.160 So I'm going to start with probably the most relevant piece of news.

01:51:56.120 This is from DailyStormer.com.

01:51:57.560 The byline is Russia pulls out an international criminal court.

01:52:01.440 Philippines to follow.

01:52:03.200 This is from our friend Andrew Anglin.

01:52:05.480 Glory be to God.

01:52:06.940 Holy Russian Empire.

01:52:09.220 Yeah.

01:52:09.660 Just to read a little bit, you know, the UN, like NATO and the EU, just needs to be shut down.

01:52:16.540 It can be replaced with a Skype chat room, says Anglin.

01:52:19.860 The ICC is the definition of uselessness.

01:52:21.880 It serves no purpose other than to cost money, a maker program for Eurocrats, and affirmative action hires.

01:52:28.960 You know, I think the story kind of speaks for itself.

01:52:34.460 You know, this is – please go on.

01:52:36.500 Well, the spark that caused Vladimir Putin to do this is their attack on Russia in Crimea. 0.90

01:52:45.900 It was the most ridiculous thing, I think, of all the ridiculous things that the court has done. 0.67

01:52:50.840 Russia is immensely popular in that part of the world. 0.90

01:52:54.720 Economic growth there is tremendous.

01:52:56.120 Why would there be any attempt to force them to do anything when they vote in this referendum?

01:53:01.800 Like 97 percent to get away from the fourth world country of Ukraine and to become – immediately, you know, they adopted the ruble, and their pensions went up by 50 percent automatically just by adopting a new currency. 0.87

01:53:13.200 It included was in their interest, and China is now investing heavily in the area.

01:53:17.620 Why in hell would Russia have any incentive to impose themselves there? 0.92

01:53:22.200 And that was the initial – that was the claim of the court, and Putin said, this is ridiculous, and he pulled out – I don't know if China is a member. 0.53

01:53:30.680 They may not even be members.

01:53:31.940 I'm not sure.

01:53:32.340 But this is a NATO institution.

01:53:35.380 The Rockefeller Foundation is a huge financer.

01:53:37.480 It's a private sector movement, not even a government entity.

01:53:41.020 It's a private sector entity.

01:53:42.860 It can enforce its decision.

01:53:44.760 There's no real precedent that what they did to Milosevic, how they tortured him in prison and eventually killed him while at the Hague.

01:53:53.040 It has no legitimacy, but it's a very symbolic notion that Putin is redefining international affairs.

01:53:59.420 I think that's the most important thing.

01:54:00.600 But that was the spark that got this whole thing going.

01:54:04.480 Yeah.

01:54:05.440 And I mean that's why I say this is – you put it perfectly, and it's pretty obvious is that this is just part of the plan to build alternative – a multipolar rule, that there's not one universal arbiter of justice from the high court of Babylon in the Hague.

01:54:25.720 I've never been more excited about a country.

01:54:27.660 What Duterte is doing there, he won the drug war in a month.

01:54:33.980 You know, major Chinese drug gangs are scared to death of him.

01:54:37.640 They've cleaned out of the country and have to go to Indonesia and other places to do their business. 0.96

01:54:42.420 It shows you that he could do it.

01:54:44.000 All it takes is one month, a firm and a strong public support and support of the police services.

01:54:51.740 He's kicked out all these corrupt bureaucrats and cops.

01:54:55.100 It took maybe six weeks, and he won that war.

01:54:58.180 And so the U.S., of course, immediately condemns him.

01:55:01.440 And they're winning the drug war.

01:55:02.480 So they won the drug war.

01:55:03.740 The U.S. submitted the attacks and condemns him.

01:55:05.800 It's typical.

01:55:07.220 And that's why the Philippines – Duterte, I think, is a great man.

01:55:11.060 Well, obviously, the objective of the drug war was never victory.

01:55:14.280 I mean –

01:55:14.520 Right.

01:55:16.800 Right.

01:55:17.160 Yeah, and I mean you use the example often of the Taliban using flame throws on the poppy fields in Afghanistan, and it was over in a week. 0.99

01:55:27.540 And that's really what it comes down to is that – it's just another one of those things is the drug war is a load of crap.

01:55:36.120 And the only marginal utility that it has ever had for our political movement is that it essentially – it's imprisonment by proxy of blacks because it's much easier to convict somebody of a possession charge for drugs than it is for many of these other crimes that they commit, that they're just simply not the resources to prosecute properly. 0.98

01:56:01.560 There's no doubt.

01:56:03.120 Yeah.

01:56:03.360 So, you know, how about, you know, we each pick a story.

01:56:08.720 John, which story would you like to cover?

01:56:10.560 I imagine the Sweden one. 0.82

01:56:12.020 Yeah, the Sweden one.

01:56:13.700 All right.

01:56:13.920 This is from a Swedish – yeah, this is from a Swedish oligarch newspaper, though.

01:56:17.720 Where are you guys?

01:56:18.660 Where are you getting these stories from?

01:56:20.300 This is a Swedish newspaper.

01:56:21.940 Aftan Bladet.

01:56:22.880 The stories are at the bottom of the show notes, Dr. Johnson.

01:56:25.780 Oh, I see.

01:56:26.420 Okay.

01:56:27.000 Yeah.

01:56:28.220 It's literally about starving old people at retirement terms. 0.89

01:56:31.580 We have 75,000 of them.

01:56:35.800 75,000.

01:56:37.040 Let that sink in.

01:56:37.700 And the retirements from Sweden are, to a large degree, privatized.

01:56:46.040 But they still get the tax money.

01:56:49.320 So we pay them to do the services.

01:56:51.980 Then they cut some of the money, make huge profits.

01:56:55.080 And the poor old people, they don't get much. 1.00

01:56:59.340 They get, like, cold potatoes and maybe, if they're lucky, a meatball or two.

01:57:05.560 That's what they get to eat.

01:57:07.340 And, of course, when they lay in their bed for, like, the third day and they haven't changed their diaper for a week.

01:57:13.880 Which, I mean, what can you say?

01:57:18.880 This is how they live.

01:57:20.200 This is how we treat the old people here. 1.00

01:57:23.000 And no one cares.

01:57:26.620 Yeah.

01:57:27.240 I mean, and this is what, this was the first step of the attack on the family, is it was the decapitation of the grandparents.

01:57:34.220 You know, it was the outsourcing of their care from the family unit to, you know, the private institution of the retirement home.

01:57:41.340 Yeah.

01:57:43.600 I mean, I don't know.

01:57:46.160 There's been cases where they've been in bed so long, they've got this huge sores, right?

01:57:50.980 Huge sores.

01:57:51.680 And then they get infected from all the fecal matter.

01:57:55.440 Yeah.

01:57:56.140 And then it fuses with the bedsheet.

01:57:58.020 So you have, like, bedsheet fecal matter and then, like, blood and the wounded self.

01:58:04.220 It's, it's, it's like, it's like something from an inferno.

01:58:09.320 Retirement homes are a sin that cries out to heaven for vengeance. 1.00

01:58:13.020 Yeah.

01:58:13.400 Really, yes, they are.

01:58:15.340 I mean.

01:58:15.880 Isn't the welfare state wonderful?

01:58:17.900 Honor thy father and mother.

01:58:19.880 And I mean, this is the exact opposite of that.

01:58:21.640 And I, you know, I mean, it's, it's, I mean, that's the thing.

01:58:25.460 I mean, how could God not punish us for this?

01:58:29.800 You know, there's, there's, there's really nothing to say.

01:58:34.220 Now, uh, Nat, do you want to pick one of the, you want to select one of the stories?

01:58:37.600 Uh, I, I would be delighted.

01:58:40.560 Oh, wait.

01:58:41.560 Yeah, go ahead.

01:58:43.120 All right.

01:58:44.600 Okay.

01:58:45.660 Well, now, I'm currently looking at one of the wonderful articles, one of the many wonderful

01:58:53.220 articles of countercurrents under the glorious guidance of Grinder Greg.

01:58:58.100 Now, what I found here is an article that essentially, uh, brings forth the, I'm going to read the,

01:59:07.760 the title of the article, the White Nationalist Case for Federal Marijuana Legalization.

01:59:13.600 Now, that, you can already understand what is going on just by the title here.

01:59:21.440 What we're inherently seeing here is just another pathetic attempt at rationalization of the very,

01:59:27.480 one of the many ailments of man, of man's nature. 0.95

01:59:32.080 Now, there's one very prominent, and I say again, prominent aspect of this pile of feces article

01:59:39.280 that I shall read out, and, uh, let me also point out that this is written by a certain

01:59:45.180 Roman Frisch.

01:59:47.980 It goes as following.

01:59:49.560 First, as I am likely to be attacked personally for my position, B-Pro, let me state outright 0.90

01:59:55.420 that I do not endorse the use of marijuana, which is the vast majority of cases for losers 0.96

02:00:01.840 and degenerates. 0.97

02:00:03.420 Now, here comes the interesting part.

02:00:04.980 Nonetheless, when proposing policy, we ought to take society as an organic whole, its angels

02:00:13.320 and its devils, into consideration.

02:00:16.960 Now, this is a running theme within the countercurrents platform, the countercurrents publishing platform,

02:00:26.580 that is, that they always seem to make this rationalization for the shitty behavior of our people, the fact that

02:00:38.360 they don't want to improve our people, that they will pamper to the lowest common denominator, 0.97

02:00:46.440 that they will dry off the snot of the sloth's face whenever he screws up. 0.98

02:00:52.820 And, I've seen so much of this nonsensical rot on this garbage webpage, this nonsensical amateur 0.99

02:01:06.760 piss that is being published on a major scale by Greg Johnson. 0.99

02:01:13.840 He has released so much of this shit, and I know we have, I've actually not even dived 0.99

02:01:20.260 into this, but I will quickly dive into this, actually. 0.99

02:01:23.220 Greg Johnson has released several pro-sodomite articles, and now, you can see, likewise, he

02:01:29.280 is now promoting pro-marijuana use, drug use material on his page. 0.99

02:01:36.840 Now, I can refer to two incidents, actually three incidents, where he has been doing shit 0.80

02:01:41.520 in the same, you know, line as this article. 0.99

02:01:46.120 One, he has promoted material by Jack Donovan, notorious sodomite swine. 0.97

02:01:53.460 Two, he has been uploading articles by James O'Meara, notorious cross-dressing sodomite swine. 1.00

02:02:02.540 Three, he has been promoting bisexual, actually even sodomitic, bestiality-endorsing scumbags. 0.99

02:02:11.900 Now, I'm primarily referring to a person who goes by the rather bizarre name of Buttercup 0.99

02:02:16.720 Dew, a.k.a. My Nationalist Pony, where he has been written several articles about, you

02:02:22.980 know, how, you know, masturbating to cartoon horses is actually very red-pilled. 0.57

02:02:28.160 Now, what I want, what, what I want people to reflect on now, right, what I want people

02:02:38.360 to reflect upon now is don't donate money to countercurrents, don't.

02:02:45.760 I would at some point like to go into a detailed background on Greg Johnson, as a matter of fact.

02:02:51.400 Now, I'm just going to throw a few buzzwords here, uh, blackmail in nationalist movements,

02:02:58.780 you know, that is probably one of the most prominent keywords when it comes to Greg Grinder

02:03:04.400 Johnson, and I just want you guys to keep that in mind, do not give money to Greg Johnson

02:03:10.300 by any means whatsoever.

02:03:12.480 I mean, that's what happens when you don't have an idea.

02:03:17.620 Hmm. 1.00

02:03:18.060 Come, you scumb. 0.99

02:03:20.940 I would like to make you my new best friend, if you wouldn't mind, because that, that was 0.98

02:03:29.100 one of the, that was one of the best, uh, uh, best descriptions of that situation, um, I've

02:03:34.280 come across in a while.

02:03:35.140 You know, so, um, if you don't mind, I just want to be able to tell people that you're

02:03:39.820 my friend, you know, just to be able to bask in that kind of glory is, is exciting enough

02:03:44.560 for me.

02:03:46.140 It would be my honor, Dr. Johnson.

02:03:47.900 It would be my honor.

02:03:48.880 You know, the homosexual movement is what got me into this, the homosexuality and the pro-life, 1.00

02:03:53.460 uh, when I was in college, those were the issues that got me involved in this place.

02:03:57.820 Um, it was really my, my sophomore year, and, uh, uh, when I think about, uh, what, what

02:04:04.140 that really entails, which I don't want to think about, but it's so disgusting and so, 0.99

02:04:08.040 so bizarrely unnatural that, uh, uh, these people are mentally ill. 0.97

02:04:12.600 And, uh, I know that that sort of thing is rife in that part of the movement. 0.87

02:04:15.780 Uh, I didn't, I didn't know how bad it was.

02:04:17.620 I didn't know, uh, now I'm going to see the guy's name.

02:04:20.280 I'm going to think of Grindr right away.

02:04:21.720 I'm going to know the guy's name after a while.

02:04:24.120 So, um, so.

02:04:25.880 It runs deep.

02:04:26.780 Thank you very much.

02:04:27.260 It runs deep.

02:04:28.140 So to speak.

02:04:28.580 It runs very deep.

02:04:29.940 And, uh, and I've said this before, but homosexuality is just another branch of cultural 1.00

02:04:36.640 Marxism.

02:04:37.380 It is an attack against Western civilization.

02:04:39.920 And I, it puts my piss to a boiling point.

02:04:43.720 Whenever I see people who make these wild postulates about, you know, racializations

02:04:49.680 even on how, you know, they're a part of our people, they're a part of our extended family,

02:04:54.080 I'm sorry, your family members do not fantasize about sodomizing you.

02:04:59.940 And, no, that's not how it is. 1.00

02:05:02.500 And to quote Florian here, your, your, a friend does not fuck you in the ass. 1.00

02:05:08.480 Let's just put it that way. 1.00

02:05:09.800 So, whatever they make it, make in terms of these, these perverse swine is essentially 0.97

02:05:14.500 the following. 0.81

02:05:15.280 Don't listen to it.

02:05:16.420 It's rot. 0.99

02:05:18.800 Homosexuality, like any other branch of Marxism, needs to be stamped out. 1.00

02:05:24.400 I mean, if you don't, homosexuality is some of the most anti-white shit there is. 1.00

02:05:29.660 It is the death of our people's spirit. 1.00

02:05:31.900 And if you condone that, what are you doing here? 0.73

02:05:35.380 There were two crimes that my ancient tribal ancestors would kill you for. 1.00

02:05:39.920 One was cowardice in battle, fleeing before the enemy, and the other was fucking your buddy 1.00

02:05:46.560 in the ass. 1.00

02:05:47.740 That's almost universal. 1.00

02:05:49.160 That's almost universal.

02:05:51.440 I mean, it's very symbolic as well.

02:05:53.220 Because you don't feel the disgust for it, right?

02:05:56.140 And because you don't feel the disgust for it, you can't feel the love for something that

02:05:59.920 is beautiful.

02:06:00.600 I mean, it's all neutral to you. 0.87

02:06:02.280 We're all gender neutral blobs of fat now. 0.82

02:06:06.080 Exactly. 0.92

02:06:06.440 So, yeah.

02:06:07.640 So, if someone supports sodomy, they can't love anything.

02:06:13.520 They, per definition, can't love it.

02:06:15.140 They're cut away from logos, God, the cosmic order, whatever you want to call it.

02:06:18.820 They're gone.

02:06:20.340 They're golems. 1.00

02:06:21.500 Robots.

02:06:22.360 Robots of human flesh.

02:06:23.520 They are the puppets.

02:06:26.300 Okay.

02:06:27.020 That's them.

02:06:29.320 They are the puppets of the cultural Marxists.

02:06:32.480 Now, to put it plainly, if you are in opposition to anti-white notions, if you are in opposition

02:06:41.760 to the modern rod that we are seeing everywhere around us, if you are in opposition to that,

02:06:47.960 you will adhere to free fundamentals.

02:06:51.580 I've said this many times, but I shall say it again.

02:06:55.060 It is God, folk, and fatherland.

02:06:58.340 There is nothing more.

02:06:59.480 If you cannot adhere to that, you're not an ally, and you most definitely do not have

02:07:04.920 the best interests of a race at your heart.

02:07:08.680 So, re-evaluate your position.

02:07:10.720 That's all I have to say to the listener.

02:07:12.240 If you are not yet adhering to the principles of God, and if you think that you can sit there

02:07:16.880 and fumble with your thumbs and rationalize buggery, re-evaluate your standpoint sincerely.

02:07:25.480 Re-evaluate it.

02:07:26.760 There's another thing.

02:07:27.580 If that's literally all we can do in life, then we literally might still kill ourselves.

02:07:33.380 I mean, if that is the only meaning in life, then you can't really say that suicide is

02:07:38.720 a bad thing, can you?

02:07:40.320 But, of course, we know that's not the meaning of life.

02:07:44.240 I mean, they're already dead, so I suppose they have already committed suicide. 0.97

02:07:48.740 My very first political demonstration was when the Fags tried to attack St. Patrick's 1.00

02:07:53.760 Cathedral in Manhattan in 1990.

02:07:57.580 I was there with the National Traditionalist Caucus, and that was the group ACT UP.

02:08:02.820 I don't know if you're familiar with them.

02:08:05.000 Most of them are dead now because they were kind of an age group. 1.00

02:08:09.840 Had created a small army to attack the church.

02:08:13.040 They had infiltrated it.

02:08:13.960 Cops were there.

02:08:15.320 They were threatening the cops with stabbing them with hypodermic needles that were infected.

02:08:19.420 I saw them face-to-face for the first time, and I saw the possession, the insanity. 0.81

02:08:28.540 Many of them were actually diseased, and I realized that this was really a mental illness.

02:08:33.700 Yeah. 0.98

02:08:34.320 These people – I treat them like you would someone who's simply retarded. 1.00

02:08:38.060 It's not their fault that they're freaks. 0.79

02:08:42.320 God knows what happened to them that led to them being that way, but they need treatment, not a political movement. 0.99

02:08:49.820 They're like rabbit dogs.

02:08:52.080 I mean, remember what happened when the angels came to Sodom. 1.00

02:08:56.220 The Sodomites tried to fuck them. 1.00

02:08:57.620 Yeah, and that's – and, you know, and Nat, one of my favorite Radio Free Skyrim moments is when you so astutely noted that, you know, God blinds them, and they still try to have sex with them. 0.99

02:09:13.480 Yeah.

02:09:13.780 I mean, that's the nature of lust.

02:09:16.260 Now, Doc Savage, would you like to select an article from the list?

02:09:19.720 Certainly I would.

02:09:21.480 There's an especially choice example of Kali Yuga news here.

02:09:25.860 Ooh.

02:09:26.260 Uh, headline, female minister, I prayed to God for guidance before my abortion. 0.98

02:09:37.220 What?

02:09:37.880 I'm telling you, guys.

02:09:39.140 Boston, Massachusetts, an American Baptist pastor says she made the decision to abort her baby, quote, with help from my faith, as many women do, end quote.

02:09:53.840 Well, that just shows what she believes in.

02:09:56.260 Death.

02:09:59.220 I – it's difficult to go on, but there are some choice quotes here.

02:10:07.780 Please, bring them out.

02:10:09.540 Yeah.

02:10:10.500 Yeah.

02:10:10.920 Uh, quote, oh, oh, uh, her ex-husband, ex-husband, Baptist minister, uh, ex-husband, Frank, Chris Crone, fully supported her decision.

02:10:25.060 Quote, I didn't want to bring a baby into the world that would feel it was a burden.

02:10:29.600 Who would give it that idea? 0.99

02:10:34.480 I read a while back as well that there was some, uh, some lesbians that literally wanted their daughter, well, their daughter, to, to be, be, be a faggot as well. 1.00

02:10:48.320 Why? 1.00

02:10:49.120 They, they, they, they keep spreading this shit. 1.00

02:10:50.940 They have, they have, they are insane. 1.00

02:10:53.540 That's amazing. 0.91

02:10:54.380 Fire and brimstone and burning wind shall be the portion of their cup. 1.00

02:10:57.380 I, you know, to, to kill a child in your womb is, I mean, it is, it is the equivalent of sodomy for a woman. 1.00

02:11:10.560 It's worse. 0.99

02:11:11.660 I mean, it is.

02:11:12.820 Well, it is.

02:11:13.520 No, fundamentally, I mean, it is.

02:11:14.960 And it, it runs completely contrary to the entire, I mean, female archetype. 1.00

02:11:19.500 I mean, in the Virgin Mary's womb, all order and rationality, you know, heaven was incarnate, the logos was incarnate in the form of Christ.

02:11:25.920 And when you, when you abort your child, you turn your life-giving womb into a graveyard. 0.98

02:11:33.100 I, you mean, it is sodomitic.

02:11:34.780 It, it is a complete inversion of the natural order.

02:11:37.680 Uh, you know, you.

02:11:41.300 Yeah. 0.99

02:11:42.000 And, uh, these people damn themselves to hell. 0.99

02:11:45.140 God does not do it. 0.98

02:11:46.860 Yeah. 1.00

02:11:47.200 The, the, the sodomites literally like shit. 1.00

02:11:49.860 They like shit on their, their manhood. 1.00

02:11:52.160 That's what they like. 1.00

02:11:53.280 They, they like to keep humping in the shit. 1.00

02:11:55.020 Please, uh, please, Dr. Johnson. 1.00

02:11:56.740 No, that, that was the problem. 0.69

02:11:58.720 The, the, the inversion, the, the, the homosexuals are the icon, the very icon of Satanism because they mix the, the life-giving, uh, semen, which is an extraordinary creation of God. 1.00

02:12:09.920 The DNA is contained in it. 0.99

02:12:11.540 With what?

02:12:12.380 The sewer system of, of the human body.

02:12:15.520 It's, it's so vile and unnatural and almost designed to be, um, uh, an inversion of, of the natural order.

02:12:22.240 Uh, but I wanted to do, um, uh, really, I'm, I'm bursting here, uh, at the white male registry.

02:12:31.520 Yes, please go ahead.

02:12:32.340 Um, uh, I, I, I, I've heard of this before.

02:12:34.000 This is not a new thing, but I'm reading this, and the statistics are completely concocted.

02:12:39.560 They're not just, they're not just, you know, distorted or exaggerated.

02:12:43.620 They're just invented.

02:12:44.200 Um, uh, uh, serial killers, um, about 30% of serial killers are, are, are non-white.

02:12:52.140 Uh, they get no attention.

02:12:54.060 Um, the so-called white ones often are Jewish, and Jews are not white. 0.73

02:13:00.280 And quite often, as you know, that Hispanics now are being, uh, especially, I know, in Texas and certain other states, they're being called white so as to, um, make the whites seem more prone to violence. 0.52

02:13:10.960 Um, in New York City, um, I'm looking at the new observer, uh, from Manhattan, uh, rapes, all reported rapes, 90.6% are non-white. 0.98

02:13:24.080 So, where in the hell are these people, uh, getting this from?

02:13:28.400 Um, and, you know, they, they, they see this as being promoted.

02:13:31.800 I've seen it in, in a whole bunch of places.

02:13:34.640 Um, the domestic violence is absolute nonsense.

02:13:38.360 Uh, I think it's very rare.

02:13:39.640 Um, I, I did a podcast on it, um, a few months ago.

02:13:46.420 Uh, and you know what they do here?

02:13:48.000 You know, whenever a woman takes out a, a restraining order, which requires zero proof to get, 0.99

02:13:54.060 because if it required proof, it would be a criminal case.

02:13:57.100 But it's not.

02:13:57.920 It's a, it's a civil case.

02:13:59.240 They're almost never turned down.

02:14:01.200 That is considered a, act of domestic, that domestic violence must have occurred.

02:14:06.140 That, that's their, where they're getting some of the statistics from.

02:14:08.280 But in terms of actual criminal convictions, it's extremely minimal.

02:14:12.740 Then again, I mean, look, look at the average, um, white man now.

02:14:17.120 I mean, we're all the Gennerts now.

02:14:19.060 All the Gennerts. 1.00

02:14:21.000 Almost all the Gennerts. 1.00

02:14:22.680 So, I mean, you, you get more of this shit. 1.00

02:14:24.380 You get more, more, more, more. 1.00

02:14:25.760 The more we're dragging the filth, the more actual abuses you get as well.

02:14:29.680 So, I wouldn't be surprised if it's actually growing.

02:14:31.440 Well, if it is, it's from the women. 1.00

02:14:35.440 Yeah.

02:14:36.000 The women are not going to be in trouble for this. 1.00

02:14:38.500 The man knows.

02:14:39.500 If you lay your hand on her, your life is over.

02:14:41.860 Yeah.

02:14:42.360 House, family, the women are not going to get in trouble. 1.00

02:14:45.500 Women commit more, more violence in that respect. 1.00

02:14:47.600 They're, they're more quick to use weapons. 0.95

02:14:49.480 And certainly, they do everything in their power to, um, uh, to provoke.

02:14:54.180 So, I mean, my, when my wife and I were arguing, she would scream out the window, stop hitting me. 0.99

02:14:58.740 Of course, I didn't lay a hand on her.

02:15:00.540 But, but this is what she was doing. 0.69

02:15:01.720 She was dying to get, you know, figure out a way to get me out of the house. 1.00

02:15:04.200 And, and nothing ever came of it, thank God.

02:15:06.460 But this is really common.

02:15:07.640 This is constant.

02:15:08.700 And she's one of the good ones at the time.

02:15:10.920 Yeah. 0.93

02:15:11.380 So, so this, so both the serial killer statistic is ridiculous. 0.92

02:15:16.140 And the rape statistic.

02:15:18.120 And then, of course, this reminds me of the Brock Turner case.

02:15:22.020 A swimmer from Stanford.

02:15:22.900 Uh, nothing about the case made any sense.

02:15:25.840 There were almost riots.

02:15:27.120 Because, like, you know what the case I'm talking about?

02:15:28.940 Yes, I'm familiar.

02:15:29.880 Yes.

02:15:30.100 You know, two drunk, you know, two drunk kids.

02:15:32.820 He was, he was just, you know, figuring, figuring her, essentially.

02:15:35.280 There was no sexual contact.

02:15:38.040 Uh, someone from Sweden, actually, on, on, on a, on a bike, uh, saw him.

02:15:43.560 Claims, swore in court that he was actually having sex with her. 0.99

02:15:46.720 But, raping her. 0.92

02:15:47.740 But, but there was no penetration, uh, in, in the medical exam. 0.58

02:15:51.100 Um, so, um, he was, he was convicted of sexual assault, given six months.

02:15:57.640 He got out after a month or so.

02:15:59.840 Um, that's, you know that this is normal, day-to-day American college life.

02:16:03.720 Yeah.

02:16:04.060 Um, this is, they were both drunk.

02:16:06.660 It's degenerate.

02:16:07.760 But the guy didn't do anything wrong, especially by the standards of, of college life.

02:16:11.060 And, um, and this guy's life is over.

02:16:14.400 He, he was an Olympic swimmer.

02:16:15.780 He, he lost that.

02:16:17.180 Uh, he had to register as a, a sex offender for the rest of his life.

02:16:21.680 And, um, essentially what the guy did is have a, a very brief sexual, uh, tryst that probably would have happened anyway.

02:16:28.400 Since he was so popular.

02:16:30.340 Uh, this woman, no doubt, would have done it voluntarily. 1.00

02:16:32.920 Yeah.

02:16:33.160 Had this not been, and it outraged me.

02:16:35.420 And they were trying, they were calling for that judge's head because he only gave six months and didn't have to serve that much.

02:16:40.880 And all the news headlines were saying convicted rapist.

02:16:43.940 Who was even convicted of that?

02:16:45.940 And so this guy, he had his face plastered everywhere.

02:16:48.720 He gets death threats every day.

02:16:50.080 And the kid didn't do anything.

02:16:51.360 You know, what is the problem?

02:16:52.460 You know, what he did from the standards of, of the university, he didn't do much harmful.

02:16:57.260 It's not exactly that's agonizing if you're a woman and had that done to you by the most popular kid in school.

02:17:02.880 And, uh, it's, it, uh, and then, then that woman, uh, whose identity has not been released for a very good reason, allegedly wrote a letter that, um, was clearly written by a, a, spread all over the press about what a victim she is and how she has nightmares and everything else is absurdity.

02:17:20.040 She clearly didn't write it.

02:17:21.600 It's done, written by a professional.

02:17:23.360 It was too well-written for a, a, uh, uh, college, uh, sophomore.

02:17:28.040 It was, it hit all the liberal talking points.

02:17:31.280 So they invented this entire case.

02:17:34.260 They, they, they won't release the woman's name because if they did, probably they're going to say, oh, well, yeah, she's a campus mattress. 0.87

02:17:39.880 She had a thing for Brock anyway.

02:17:41.800 So they won't release her name.

02:17:42.880 And they did release her name.

02:17:44.200 This letter will be exposed as not from her.

02:17:46.900 And so they created this whole image, uh, completely false narrative.

02:17:50.840 This kid's life is over.

02:17:53.360 Um, and he, you know, but 20 other kids that very same night doing stuff far worse than he did said he did it outside.

02:18:01.380 They completely concocted the entire story.

02:18:03.860 It has no, no reality whatsoever.

02:18:06.000 And so this, this story in particular really, um, uh, it's outrageous.

02:18:10.080 They simply concoct this stuff.

02:18:11.360 It is invented. 0.59

02:18:11.880 And, um, I think one trend we have to watch is the growing, um, attempt to make Hispanics white so as to increase the white crime rate. 0.92

02:18:21.220 Yeah.

02:18:21.620 That's an excellent example of this is if you go to the, um, you know, the Texas, um, state, state troopers department, you know, they have a list of the most wanted fugitives.

02:18:30.100 That's what I'm talking about.

02:18:31.040 Yeah.

02:18:31.200 Yes.

02:18:33.020 Exactly.

02:18:33.760 And if you just go there, you know, look at what, look at these men, their pictures, their monk shots, and then look at the race.

02:18:38.320 And it's, it's comical.

02:18:39.840 I mean, you know, they, they, yeah.

02:18:41.460 It's, it's, it's, you know, it's, it's fictional.

02:18:46.860 I mean, it's just, it's, it's a parody.

02:18:50.500 But that is, please go ahead. 0.96

02:18:53.400 Well, this white male registry, I mean, is that so insane?

02:18:56.720 I mean, if the left gets power, that's something they will do.

02:18:59.780 You know, using these, you know, cook statistics, uh, to do it.

02:19:03.840 I mean, this is a declaration of war on us.

02:19:07.460 Based on, on all this, all this fakery.

02:19:09.200 Uh, the Southern Poverty Law Center, like they're, like, they're a, a, a neutral rule.

02:19:16.640 They registered over 400 reports of hate crimes since, um, uh, from the nationalist, racist, and sexist campaign rhetoric of Donald Trump.

02:19:26.060 So a leftist organization invented a story.

02:19:28.720 Reports of hate crimes, which could be anything.

02:19:32.100 Uh, you know, and this is what's considered news.

02:19:34.320 This is what's considered analysis.

02:19:36.700 And, and this is, it's so outrageous.

02:19:38.420 This is why I can, I just had to, I had to get this out.

02:19:40.640 Uh, it really, and it's a declaration of war.

02:19:43.540 They do want a registry of us.

02:19:45.920 Yeah.

02:19:46.140 I like it.

02:19:46.580 You gonna unwrap me?

02:19:47.760 Oh, sorry about that, buddy.

02:19:48.900 I like it.

02:19:49.680 Oh, excuse me.

02:19:50.480 I, I remember when the, um, uh, Department of Homeland Security, uh, said that they were, they were, they were,

02:19:59.080 they were looking at white male, uh, Christian veterans as particularly vulnerable to, quote, unquote, radicalization and impossible terrorism.

02:20:10.140 Wow.

02:20:10.680 So I, I'm sure a lot of thoughts of us are already on lists.

02:20:15.180 Well, I hope, man.

02:20:16.140 Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, almost certainly.

02:20:18.800 And, I mean, and this is what we kind of let you guys with in a couple of episodes ago.

02:20:22.380 I mean, they are, you know, they're coming for you.

02:20:25.540 I mean, they really are.

02:20:27.160 And, uh, you know, they're coming, they're coming for you. 0.89

02:20:31.040 You know, they're going to try to imprison you or kill you. 0.93

02:20:33.060 Um, you're going to try to take your children from you.

02:20:36.580 Um, you know, and, and, and how about strangers indoctrinate them, you know, to their way of life. 1.00

02:20:40.820 They're going to try to rape your woman. 1.00

02:20:42.320 You know, they want your civilization defiled by alien invaders. 1.00

02:20:46.660 I mean, they, they're evil. 0.97

02:20:49.180 Yeah, they want to destroy you. 0.98

02:20:50.060 They just want to destroy you.

02:20:51.020 They do.

02:20:51.440 They want to, yeah.

02:20:52.060 They have no goal.

02:20:53.140 They have no goal. 0.99

02:20:53.860 It's just like, eh, I want to destroy, eh, I want to destroy you. 1.00

02:20:56.380 The Jews killed Christ himself. 1.00

02:20:58.740 They, they nailed him on our cross.

02:21:00.060 If that's not symbolic, I don't know what is.

02:21:01.800 It's, they don't need a reason.

02:21:03.280 They just want to destroy.

02:21:05.920 Well, yeah, this, this domestic violence thing really, really hit hard.

02:21:09.100 Now, thank God I was never accused of it.

02:21:10.520 But, but in the state of Pennsylvania, the woman just makes an accusation now. 1.00

02:21:15.320 No evidence whatsoever.

02:21:17.280 She's granted a free lawyer for life. 0.88

02:21:19.920 She's granted free counseling for as long as she needs it.

02:21:22.440 It's really just, you know, facilitation.

02:21:25.160 The restraining order, which is automatically granted, it's a simple case to the man that doesn't,

02:21:29.820 is not granted a lawyer.

02:21:31.800 Um, these, uh, every county has a feminist organization that has a state permission to 1.00

02:21:37.320 act as the advocacy group for the woman making the claim.

02:21:40.800 Very well off.

02:21:41.640 They're government funded.

02:21:42.900 Uh, feminist lawyers. 1.00

02:21:44.660 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

02:21:46.060 All they do is make arguments to judges for the, get these, these restraining orders passed.

02:21:50.780 They know exactly what to say.

02:21:52.080 And this guy, who has no idea what he's doing, no lawyer, is totally bowled over.

02:21:58.500 The restraining order itself has a custody agreement, or a custody order right in the order.

02:22:03.040 And even worse than that, there is a spousal support and child support right in the order.

02:22:10.560 No, no discussion, no agreement.

02:22:12.840 No, um, it's simply imposed.

02:22:14.500 And this is what happens, and, and there's no, it could be, it's arbitrary.

02:22:19.380 You know, $800 a month, $1,000 a month.

02:22:20.920 And all, all that from a single accusation, no evidence whatsoever, is required for this.

02:22:29.660 And, and there's, I, I couldn't believe it when I read it, but it is absolutely true.

02:22:32.740 I went to the PA Supreme Court, and the superior courts, and their decisions made it very clear.

02:22:38.540 The only thing that a woman has to show is that she's afraid. 1.00

02:22:42.440 She doesn't have to claim violence. 0.97

02:22:43.920 She doesn't have to do anything.

02:22:44.640 I'm afraid of this man, and that's all she has to say.

02:22:47.360 And the man's life is over.

02:22:48.600 And the podcast on this question is, is, is excellent.

02:22:51.860 I mean, I, I listened to it, you know, um, about a week ago.

02:22:55.420 And, I mean, I sent it to my, to my dad.

02:22:57.400 Um, because it, it, it, I mean, it just so clearly, you know, uh, I mean, you, you remove the glamour, uh, of these, the demon here.

02:23:06.900 And you clearly expose what the situation is legally, in terms of the framework between the sexes.

02:23:12.300 And, I mean, it's in, please go ahead.

02:23:15.480 I had to call, I think I mentioned there, three lawyers.

02:23:19.160 Friends of mine, um, one from Philadelphia, two from, from Carlisle, to make sure I was interpreting this right.

02:23:25.600 Is this really what the law says?

02:23:27.380 Is this what happens to the man?

02:23:29.580 And, and no evidence is required?

02:23:31.000 And they said yes.

02:23:32.020 And most lawyers will not defend anyone who's accused because they, they can't win.

02:23:36.620 It's not possible.

02:23:38.100 So, that, that's a thousand dollars.

02:23:40.940 And that's from a normal working person.

02:23:43.140 Or is it some engineer or some rich guy?

02:23:45.580 Well, that's just an example.

02:23:46.740 But there's no agreement.

02:23:47.860 There's no negotiation.

02:23:48.960 It's simply imposed.

02:23:50.060 Wow.

02:23:50.440 Same thing for the custody, that one. 0.66

02:23:53.360 And now, the man is officially an abuser.

02:23:55.400 Because he has this restraining order against him. 1.00

02:23:57.920 Fucking hell. 0.99

02:23:59.420 No question about it. 0.99

02:24:00.820 I couldn't believe, I couldn't believe it.

02:24:02.000 I had to call people to make sure that I got this right.

02:24:04.500 That I'm not, but it's absolutely correct.

02:24:06.320 And, and Pennsylvania is not the most extreme area.

02:24:09.220 I mean, what, what this, what this says is, is, is literally institutionalized castration.

02:24:13.880 That's what it is.

02:24:14.720 How can you have any authority in a family when, when, when this, that can happen anytime?

02:24:21.180 At any time.

02:24:22.180 Yeah.

02:24:22.440 At any time.

02:24:23.260 It, it, it just, it just won't work.

02:24:25.560 Yeah.

02:24:25.820 And I mean, I think this is, this is, this is a subject that we need to return to.

02:24:30.000 You know, and I, the issue of, you know, how do you even begin to rebuild the United States

02:24:35.980 when it's, it's difficult to find, you know, a good woman. 0.59

02:24:38.900 And I mean, even if you, even if you do find one, she has this sort of democles over you.

02:24:44.500 Uh, you know, should she change her mind?

02:24:47.800 I thought mine was one of the exceptions.

02:24:50.240 And if mine could go, anyone can go.

02:24:52.760 And that's why young men should be, I mean, I hate to say it, but you have every reason

02:24:56.640 to be scared.

02:24:58.800 Yeah.

02:24:59.800 Yeah.

02:25:00.160 Yeah.

02:25:00.640 You know, and with that slightly pessimistic, uh, you know, ending, you know,

02:25:05.980 you know, we, we've kind of gone past our time, but that's all right.

02:25:08.200 I mean, this has been a superb show.

02:25:10.320 I want to thank everybody very much for joining us today.

02:25:13.500 I'm your host, Florian Geyer.

02:25:15.440 Ave Maria.

02:25:16.600 Riva Hans, thank you.

02:25:18.520 Yeah, no problem.

02:25:19.520 Pleasure to be here.

02:25:21.460 You know, and of course, Matthew Raphael Johnson, it was an honor and a pleasure to have you

02:25:25.380 on the podcast.

02:25:26.360 I really hope that we can get you back on again.

02:25:28.000 I think that, you know, it's an excellent discussion.

02:25:30.760 Thank you very much.

02:25:31.760 Uh, this is one of the best group of guys.

02:25:33.160 Uh, I got a new best friend out of it.

02:25:35.180 Uh, it's really, it's, it's, um, we're all on the same page.

02:25:38.200 We're speaking the same language.

02:25:39.220 It was really extraordinary.

02:25:40.200 I loved it.

02:25:41.860 Excellent.

02:25:42.680 And Doc Savage.

02:25:43.560 I mean, you know, likewise in turn.

02:25:45.040 Thank you very much for coming on.

02:25:47.400 It was a pleasure.

02:25:48.480 Glad to be here.

02:25:49.520 Jezu Maria.

02:25:51.460 Exactly.

02:25:52.540 To all of our listeners, shalom.

02:25:54.520 We sing the sky as a black horse.

02:26:03.740 We sing the sky as a black horse.

02:26:04.700 Hei, ja, oh, oh.

02:26:08.260 And we want to run with the ramps.

02:26:12.860 Hei, ja, oh, oh.

02:26:15.520 Spieß voran, rauf und dran, setzt aufs Lusterdach den roten Haar.

02:26:24.740 Spieß voran, rauf und dran, setzt aufs Lusterdach den roten Haar.

02:26:32.740 Spieß voran, rauf und dran, setzt aufs Lusterdach den roten Haar.

02:27:01.440 Spieß voran, rauf und dran, setzt aufs Lusterdach den roten Haar.

02:27:12.960 Uns führt der Florian Geier an, trotz Acht und Bann.

02:27:21.780 Den Mundschuh führt er in der Fahrt, hat Helm und Harnisch an.

02:27:28.660 Hei, ja, oh, oh, oh.

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02:28:25.360 Wir schlagen ziehen, rauf und dran, setzt aufs Lusterdach den roten Haar.

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Mysterium Fasces Episode 7 — Nationalism + Orthodoxy

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