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00:01:15.000 Oh yeah, dude.

00:01:42.940 There's some Nephilim shit.

00:01:44.940 It's like we all know it's going down, but no one's saying shit what happened to the

00:01:48.720 home of the brave.

00:01:50.200 These motherfuckers take control of this now, and no one's talking about how they made us

00:01:53.900 try to be slaves.

00:01:55.340 And everybody's just walking around, heading to clouds, I want to wake up to a dead in the

00:01:59.580 grave.

00:02:00.560 But it's too late, we need to be ready to raise up.

00:02:03.360 Welcome to the end of day.

00:02:05.120 Everybody is slaved.

00:02:06.540 Only some are aware that the government released...

00:02:08.940 No, it looks great, dude.

00:02:10.640 Thank you.

00:02:11.600 We just did a two-hour deep dive on that Kim Kardashian video.

00:02:15.820 I don't know if you've seen it.

00:02:18.740 I watched 10 seconds of it, and I was like, what the fuck is this?

00:02:22.360 And then I shut it off.

00:02:24.140 Yeah, dude.

00:02:24.980 Yeah, we just broke it down.

00:02:25.880 Honestly, I know you're going to go, oh, fucking schizo, saying schizo shit.

00:02:29.720 But it's telling you about a coming economic collapse, and it's telling you that the party

00:02:34.580 is over for the left, but something a little bit bigger than the left, sort of like this

00:02:40.000 great, big, immoral, sexually exploitive kind of music industry thing.

00:02:47.380 It's telling you that the party is coming to an end, and it's all falling apart.

00:02:50.820 It's telling you that the dollar is about to be worthless, and it's telling you that there

00:02:55.320 might be unrest.

00:02:56.340 It's a very interesting video, honestly.

00:02:59.160 It's a lot of fun, and it's kind of a masterpiece in that way, if you can look past Kim Kardashian's

00:03:05.440 ass, which admittedly is a task.

00:03:08.220 It's very difficult, dude.

00:03:09.880 So you're telling me you deciphered all of this from a couple-minute-long weird post from

00:03:15.640 Kim Kardashian on Christmas?

00:03:16.980 It's a four-minute and 44-second-long post, Clint, which is significant in the community.

00:03:21.480 And they tell you several times throughout it that this is like a Stanley Kubrick film,

00:03:26.820 which you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to know that Kubrick went to great lengths

00:03:30.360 to enrich his background with all kinds of subliminal messaging.

00:03:33.280 And so in that way, it's telling you, the foreground is telling you nothing.

00:03:36.740 The background is telling you everything.

00:03:38.240 And when you look at it through that lens, you're like, oh shit, there's a story here.

00:03:41.380 And it's pretty fucking cool.

00:03:43.240 You know, I don't want to give her too much due, but, you know, and who knows how much

00:03:47.980 of a role she played in it, but it was kind of genius.

00:03:50.280 Well, that is interesting.

00:03:52.120 All right, I'm going to listen to yours, and I'll also watch the entire four minutes video.

00:03:58.400 But in the meantime, I had a weird interaction last night.

00:04:01.500 I don't even know which portion of this is actually on here, but hold on.

00:04:08.680 Here we go.

00:04:09.380 Oh, you were in this?

00:04:10.380 Maybe you are kind of stupid, because how exactly have I said that?

00:04:13.140 How exactly have I said that?

00:04:14.100 Go ahead.

00:04:14.500 Go ahead.

00:04:14.800 Go ahead.

00:04:15.400 Explain to me when I said this.

00:04:16.820 I do understand I'm getting unhinged, and I can talk like...

00:04:20.760 No, not me at the moment.

00:04:22.140 But listen, but I get really passionate about it, because I can't imagine...

00:04:27.880 Yeah, probably you should put that passion somewhere else.

00:04:29.960 I don't know, informing yourself, because...

00:04:32.620 Sorry, stop muting me, by the way.

00:04:34.160 What you're saying is absolute bullshit.

00:04:35.860 No, it's not.

00:04:36.780 It's not.

00:04:37.760 Okay, can you tell me where exactly I said what you claimed that I said?

00:04:40.240 You're putting words in my mouth.

00:04:41.060 Listen, I'll tell you something.

00:04:42.360 If I go to your fucking house and tell you how you're supposed to act, and I'll call you

00:04:47.020 that you racist...

00:04:48.420 When have I told you how to act?

00:04:50.720 When have I done this?

00:04:52.260 You know, you're insane.

00:04:54.460 You sound actually unhinged, and I hope that you probably seek out the necessary medical attention

00:04:59.780 that you need in order to deal with this insanity, because you are a threat to the fucking platform.

00:05:03.420 I've waited a long time.

00:05:04.800 I've waited a long time.

00:05:05.460 So let me just make my point.

00:05:06.740 You think you're superior.

00:05:07.800 That's what it is.

00:05:08.440 Wow.

00:05:09.120 He does.

00:05:09.500 He does.

00:05:10.260 I clearly stated I have the smoothest brain on the planet.

00:05:13.120 No, you definitely think you're superior, but that's okay.

00:05:15.620 The point I wanted to make...

00:05:16.400 I definitely think I'm super smooth-brained, and I think I'm like the most aerodynamic thing here.

00:05:20.380 You know, like those spheres that they manufacture to test whether or not a kilogram is actually accurate?

00:05:24.580 You know, the spheres of silicon, that's how smooth my brain is.

00:05:27.020 Yeah, you're the UFOs over New Jersey.

00:05:28.880 It's so flat and such a mirror that you can see the future in it, and you don't like what you see.

00:05:33.620 Jesus Christ, you're obnoxious.

00:05:34.960 All right, so the point I wanted to get to was if it is in fact true that Laura, Owen, others have lost their blue...

00:05:42.220 All right, so that was allegedly my engagement with Elon Musk.

00:05:48.320 Right.

00:05:49.100 I don't believe it's Elon Musk.

00:05:51.360 Let me make that very clear.

00:05:52.540 Wait, really?

00:05:54.000 Yeah, people are adamant that Adrian Dittman is Elon Musk, and that got cut off there, but I called him an asshole later.

00:06:03.440 I said he's obnoxious.

00:06:04.300 I said he came in there as antagonistic as humanly possible.

00:06:06.960 If it is Elon, I expect my account to be nuked within 48 hours because I'm not very nice to him.

00:06:12.760 A bunch of these guys, that other dude, SMG, he got his shit taken away too.

00:06:18.280 Patriot J got his shit taken away.

00:06:20.860 Quite a few.

00:06:21.640 So, yeah, let me break this down a little bit.

00:06:24.520 So, the allegation is that Laura Loomer basically doxxed somebody.

00:06:28.860 It was a guy who wasn't even the guy that was being put in as an advisor to Trump.

00:06:35.460 He had the same name, and he donated to Kamala Harris.

00:06:40.440 She claims that she redacted the address for this gentleman.

00:06:45.320 They claim she did not.

00:06:46.720 I don't know what the truth is.

00:06:48.300 If she, in fact, put out the address for this guy who wasn't even a guy that's going into the Trump administration,

00:06:53.700 then that's fucking terrible, and obviously she gets whatever comes to her for that.

00:06:58.420 That was a huge mistake.

00:06:59.880 If it was, in fact, redacted, and she's just being hammered because she went hard in the paint against H1Bs

00:07:05.920 and against Elon and Vivek yesterday, well, that's a totally different thing,

00:07:09.940 in which case old Twitter is now new Twitter, and we're back in censorious times.

00:07:15.480 So, I don't know what's true.

00:07:17.060 There's also the—

00:07:17.820 It's only a matter of time until that happened, by the way, until it regressed.

00:07:20.440 There's also the idea where, again, I was doxxed by transgender Twitter,

00:07:25.760 and I'm, like, tagging Elon Musk.

00:07:27.780 You didn't even deserve that.

00:07:29.100 No, I didn't say anything crazy.

00:07:30.520 Listen, the people voted.

00:07:31.420 Just ask a question, dude.

00:07:32.380 Just ask a question.

00:07:33.080 Just asking a question.

00:07:34.700 Doesn't matter if you're offensive or not.

00:07:36.640 The fact is, like, you can't do that.

00:07:38.540 This is not—it's not just terms of service, but now you're making a physical threat,

00:07:41.800 and nothing happened to this person.

00:07:43.260 As a matter of fact, they responded to me almost immediately saying they didn't violate any of their policy.

00:07:49.940 So, I was, like, okay, so I can say whatever I want then?

00:07:52.420 Apparently not.

00:07:52.940 Yeah, no.

00:07:53.620 Same thing happened with Nick Fuentes, though.

00:07:56.080 The people that doxxed Fuentes, like, all he said was, your body, my choice.

00:08:01.220 Your body.

00:08:02.020 Yeah.

00:08:02.260 Like, that's all he said.

00:08:03.440 That's it, dude.

00:08:03.980 It's kind of a banger.

00:08:05.240 Yeah.

00:08:05.540 I mean, it's funny.

00:08:06.560 It is funny.

00:08:07.300 And I think he meant it as a joke because he didn't even vote for Trump.

00:08:09.580 Oh, of course.

00:08:10.320 And look, if you're looking at Nick Fuentes, it's like he doesn't have the ability to execute your body, his choice.

00:08:14.960 He also doesn't want to.

00:08:16.640 He doesn't want to, right.

00:08:18.060 But it is funny.

00:08:18.640 He's a virgin.

00:08:19.520 It's literally—your body is definitely not his choice at this point.

00:08:22.280 It's a banger of a joke.

00:08:23.380 It really is.

00:08:23.900 Yeah, but so anyways, he posts that on election night.

00:08:30.440 He then has—I was on a space with him last night, too.

00:08:33.880 I was doing spaces all night.

00:08:35.340 I don't know why.

00:08:36.360 But he explains that after that, he got doxxed aggressively.

00:08:41.940 He reported the doxxing, did not get pulled down.

00:08:45.000 It was seen millions of times, too.

00:08:47.080 So it does seem as if—oh, and then on top of that, almost 100 people came to his house.

00:08:54.240 Because of that doxxing.

00:08:55.580 Yeah.

00:08:56.440 That's crazy.

00:08:57.720 And then a person who allegedly murdered three people showed up at his house, armed to the teeth, to try and take out Nick, was killed by the cops.

00:09:08.600 This actually fucking happened, and no one seems to really care about it just because they don't like Nick Fuentes.

00:09:15.000 And I'm like, this is madness.

00:09:16.700 And apparently X did nothing to stop the doxxing of him.

00:09:21.540 So he's now looking at litigation against X for basically putting him in jeopardy.

00:09:27.200 I don't know if there's any validity to that claim.

00:09:29.060 But regardless, it does seem this on top of the Laura Loomer.

00:09:33.780 She was suspended, and she also lost her blue check, and she lost all of her subscribers.

00:09:41.640 Whoa.

00:09:41.880 So she's being hammered.

00:09:43.580 And then everybody she was affiliated with, so apparently what happened was like 60 or so dissident right-wing figures all paid, I think it's 1,000, maybe it's more, per month to have a verified corporate account on X.

00:10:00.560 And they all shared this badge.

00:10:02.300 So everybody that was affiliated with her on that also is now under review.

00:10:08.360 They had all of their blue checks thrown into under review because of her actions.

00:10:13.260 But it's not because of that.

00:10:14.580 That's the whole drama.

00:10:15.220 Well, that's the story.

00:10:17.580 It's not because she doxxed.

00:10:18.940 I mean, that's a great excuse.

00:10:20.620 But then why are these other people – the other people that have lost their blue check and are back under review, they've all been critical of the H-1B visa stuff.

00:10:29.920 I know, but that's what I'm saying is like the claim is because they lost – I guess because she violated the policy, she loses that – I think maybe that account was under her registration.

00:10:42.880 So therefore, everybody else that was using that account, essentially that account is no longer – you're no longer going to have the, I don't know, the paid verified of this conservative media thing.

00:10:54.980 So none of those people should lose their subscribers.

00:10:58.220 None of them should lose their blue check.

00:10:59.560 If they do, if everybody that's affiliated with her gets hammered the same way, well then, yeah, this is old Twitter, censorious insanity.

00:11:08.280 Just a different flavor of cancel culture.

00:11:10.220 I think it's kind of cool.

00:11:11.140 The reason I think it's –

00:11:16.040 I can never – this is why I like talking to Tom.

00:11:18.420 I never expect what his angle is going to be.

00:11:21.960 Go ahead.

00:11:22.560 No, and it's like I'm not taking the contrary on any of this, but I don't want to jump the gun.

00:11:27.480 You definitely are.

00:11:28.820 I'm being honest with you.

00:11:30.080 I also don't want to jump the gun into the further conversation when we get into the H-1B visas and my immigration because I think that's what this is all about.

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00:13:04.620 I wouldn't want people on it opposing what I'm doing.

00:13:08.220 And if they were, I could just pull some fucking strings and make it the way I want it.

00:13:13.440 Why would I let you come here and run the show and ratio me on my own website?

00:13:18.240 No.

00:13:18.740 I'd adjust the block button.

00:13:20.100 Because I'm looking at Elon and I have a really hard time figuring out how much influence he actually has over X.

00:13:27.840 Only because, you know, we do a lot.

00:13:30.480 Spirit fingers.

00:13:32.240 Spirit fingers.

00:13:32.940 We do a lot, right?

00:13:33.920 We're constantly working.

00:13:34.820 We're putting out content.

00:13:35.680 We're trying to build something.

00:13:36.520 This is a guy who's doing SpaceX.

00:13:38.440 He's also doing The Boring Company.

00:13:40.100 He's also doing all these appearances and spaces.

00:13:42.920 He's running the biggest social media company on the planet.

00:13:46.720 And he's seemingly ranked, like, number two or something in Diablo, which is fucking insane.

00:13:52.860 I mean, dude, the amount of hours you have to allocate to that game in order to rank that high.

00:13:58.260 I couldn't even imagine how many that is.

00:13:59.820 It makes no sense.

00:14:00.840 It doesn't make any sense.

00:14:01.860 And then, like, look, I know it's going to seem a little crazy.

00:14:04.280 That sounded like Elon Musk to me.

00:14:05.760 And I do think, I've suspected for a while that he runs multiple accounts.

00:14:09.220 Like, I think he runs his parody account, you know, Elon Musk parody.

00:14:12.060 I think it gives him an outlet to explore certain ideas.

00:14:14.680 And sometimes the way they play off each other, it just seems like the same guy running two accounts.

00:14:18.320 If he truly is, and I would do that, by the way, if I owned the biggest social media conglomeration on the planet, I would have multiple accounts.

00:14:27.200 If you actually had the free time to do that.

00:14:28.780 How does he have the free time to do Diablo?

00:14:31.360 Diablo.

00:14:31.680 Okay, so maybe.

00:14:32.680 He's also got 10 kids and, like, six baby mamas.

00:14:35.480 What?

00:14:35.720 Something about him doesn't make any sense.

00:14:37.120 Yeah, he's got a lot of money.

00:14:38.580 You could explain, the kids have nannies.

00:14:40.960 You could explain that he's the CEO of these companies, but he's delegated responsibility effectively.

00:14:46.880 What you can explain is, like, how much time he's using on Twitter.

00:14:49.520 Even just on his Elon Musk is his main account.

00:14:53.100 And it's funny when you see people, they're like, what are you doing on Twitter?

00:14:57.580 Like, back when I kind of first started, I was like, I don't know.

00:14:59.460 This shit seems important.

00:15:00.540 People are, like, talking on here and there's, like, something moving.

00:15:04.200 Well, now you got the richest guy in the world who put $44 billion into it and not just bought it, but he's, like, an avid user.

00:15:10.600 He's one of the most prolific users on it.

00:15:12.460 He's not that good at it, I don't think, but he uses it a lot.

00:15:14.920 It tells you that this shit is really important in whatever we're moving towards and however the culture has been moved.

00:15:20.360 But I do think that he's recognized the significance of the cultural effect of Twitter.

00:15:27.280 And that was, I think, exemplified back when you had your tweet top the famous one with Mel Gibson or Joe Biden, right?

00:15:34.200 And after he retweeted that, he moved the culture, the conversation, in a dramatically different direction that only hindsight tells you was pretty impactful as far as, you know, things about the Jews or whatever.

00:15:47.040 He did that again recently.

00:15:48.440 We talked about this where he did a – how do I say this?

00:15:53.620 I don't want to get you yanked off YouTube.

00:15:54.840 But there's, you know, the whole –

00:15:56.420 Conspiracy with John Podesta and all that, yeah.

00:15:59.100 Yeah, P-Gate.

00:15:59.640 P-Gate, yeah, that whole thing.

00:16:00.980 He retweeted that recently.

00:16:01.700 P-Gate, the R. Kelly thing, you know, P-Gate.

00:16:03.500 Yeah, yeah, different, but same, same.

00:16:06.200 Similar.

00:16:06.920 But, I mean, you know, he does – I don't think he – he may not be the best tweeter to Top's point,

00:16:11.680 but I think he has a really good handle on his ability to move a cultural conversation.

00:16:17.460 So I don't know – I don't want to attribute 5D chess to a dude who's not playing 5D chess,

00:16:22.820 and I think we in the conspiracy community do that a lot.

00:16:25.680 We kind of attribute, you know, higher levels of intellect to people that don't deserve it.

00:16:30.840 However –

00:16:31.220 He deserves it, dude.

00:16:32.040 He's doing something.

00:16:33.460 Right.

00:16:33.800 And I just go, when he's – you know, are you violating the terms of service when you dox somebody?

00:16:40.620 Almost certainly, right?

00:16:41.840 I could imagine that within the terms of service of Twitter, it is on its face a violation to do that sort of thing.

00:16:46.720 When you allow it to perpetuate, and then it spirals into some of the biggest cultural moments we've seen unfold on Twitter,

00:16:53.060 I have to ask myself if he lets a thing slide when he thinks it's advantageous or when he doesn't, you know?

00:16:59.140 So I don't know.

00:17:00.740 Well, that's my concern, and that's always been my concern with X.

00:17:02.940 It's not so much that the rules are, like, of particular concern.

00:17:08.560 It's that are they actually applied equally?

00:17:11.740 Almost certainly not.

00:17:13.120 And are they static?

00:17:14.700 Like, are they shifting with the win?

00:17:16.400 And the answer is they're definitely shifting with the win because he just changes shit every month.

00:17:21.620 But also it doesn't feel as if it's being applied equitably, which was the entire complaint of old guard Twitter

00:17:28.000 because people like us were constantly being suspended or banned entirely,

00:17:33.580 whereas people with left-leaning politics were basically free to run wild.

00:17:38.980 And now, you know, there's been allegations that now this is the right-wing version of Twitter where it's extraordinarily biased towards the right.

00:17:45.100 That doesn't appear to be the case if what's happening to Laura Loomer and these other folks is, in fact, unjust.

00:17:50.700 Now, let me just say, though, if she doxed some random dude with the same name, she fucked up majorly.

00:17:58.320 Yeah.

00:17:58.480 And that's on her.

00:18:00.480 So we got to—I'm going to reserve judgment until I actually know for a fact.

00:18:03.960 She claims that the address was redacted.

00:18:06.160 I don't know if that's true.

00:18:07.260 Laura Loomer, I mean, I've met her in real life.

00:18:09.540 She's kind of nice in real life, but she's a piece of shit online.

00:18:12.800 You do a lot of things that are horrible.

00:18:16.000 This is coming from Top Lobster.

00:18:17.220 Yeah, and I'm a piece of shit online.

00:18:19.580 Sorry, Tim Rule.

00:18:20.900 She is totally female you.

00:18:22.640 You're really nice in person, but online, you're a total piece of shit, just like Laura Loomer.

00:18:26.060 I feel like people hate me less online.

00:18:29.500 Like, here's a question.

00:18:31.360 Wait, what?

00:18:31.980 People hate you more in person?

00:18:33.940 No, no.

00:18:34.500 That's because it's off-putting when it comes from women.

00:18:36.080 They hate me less than her.

00:18:37.900 Like, okay, a good example is a lot of people love me online.

00:18:41.940 A lot of people hate me.

00:18:43.220 I don't think anybody loves Laura Loomer.

00:18:45.160 They just, like, you follow her because you're like, what's she doing now?

00:18:48.180 She's chaining herself to Twitter.

00:18:49.460 She's fighting Milo Yiannopoulos.

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00:19:31.500 Hashtag make a play.

00:19:32.960 Nothing good ever, but like, no, she doesn't have any fans.

00:19:37.300 She just has people that watch her because she's a spectacle.

00:19:40.300 And I watched the argument with her and Milo Yiannopoulos because I saw it.

00:19:44.300 I did.

00:19:44.860 There's like that, you know, it's, it's, it's, I think it's nighttime.

00:19:47.580 They're outside.

00:19:48.140 They're face to face.

00:19:48.980 There's somebody between them recording and they're arguing with one another.

00:19:52.440 And I looked at that.

00:19:52.700 Jimi Hendrix is recording them, which is very funny.

00:19:54.820 And I went, what am I fucking watching, dude?

00:19:58.320 And I turned it off before they got any sort of, you know, message, a semblance of something

00:20:03.000 coherent out.

00:20:03.640 I don't know what they were even talking about.

00:20:04.900 I just said, why am I doing this?

00:20:06.320 And that was going to be my question when you first brought up that space thing.

00:20:09.540 You said you had been doing spaces a lot last night, you know, and you didn't know why.

00:20:14.100 I've been doing a lot of spaces.

00:20:14.720 It's funny because moments before that, I was going to ask you, don't you hate these people?

00:20:19.600 Why are you subjecting yourself to these people?

00:20:22.040 It's a very strange thing, this, like, the personalities, the inflammatory personalities

00:20:27.600 that have developed around political conversations, especially in a time where, like, it seems

00:20:32.200 to matter more than ever.

00:20:33.340 There's so much on the line and you have sort of the WWE stars of political conversation.

00:20:39.860 And I look at that and I go, God, this is off-putting.

00:20:41.440 You know what's weird?

00:20:42.100 Isn't it exhausting?

00:20:43.040 What's weird about the spaces to me is that, like, so Clint is this almost anomaly.

00:20:47.000 You have, like, this great broadcasting voice and you know how to handle yourself when you're

00:20:50.720 talking and you have a great Twitter presence.

00:20:53.440 This guy, whoever that was with the MAGA hat, sounded like a retard.

00:20:59.200 Elon Musk.

00:20:59.900 The guy that sounded like Elon?

00:21:01.020 Yeah, Elon Musk.

00:21:01.360 No, the other guy that was arguing with Elon Musk sounded like a retard.

00:21:04.980 Elon Musk sounds kind of like a retard when he's on in a podcast format.

00:21:09.340 And they love to do this shit.

00:21:10.480 It's like, just like, they go with their huge accounts.

00:21:12.720 They pull their pants down and they talk into their phone.

00:21:14.840 And I'm like, it's bad.

00:21:17.280 Some of it's really bad.

00:21:18.840 Ian Myles Chong.

00:21:20.000 Horrible.

00:21:20.580 Yeah.

00:21:21.020 Disgusting.

00:21:21.980 Look, it's almost always bad.

00:21:25.040 But it's like Laura Lomer.

00:21:27.040 It's the spectacle.

00:21:28.820 You know, it is entertaining.

00:21:31.680 I actually enjoy the debates.

00:21:33.700 Like, if it's a genuine debate.

00:21:36.680 It's just so rarely genuine.

00:21:38.960 And this is why, like, younger me, I honestly wish that, like, I had this, you know, profile and this reach when I was 25.

00:21:47.540 Because I was such a lunatic in my mid-20s.

00:21:51.100 You know, I would have just been screaming at the top of my legs.

00:21:54.000 Today, I'm not that guy.

00:21:55.720 I don't have the energy to shout back.

00:21:58.320 If someone starts to flip out on me, I just kind of go like, cool.

00:22:02.860 That's your opinion, dude.

00:22:04.040 I think you said it at one point.

00:22:04.820 I was listening to Clint when we were, you know, watching that space moments ago.

00:22:09.400 And his reply to the dude that was supposed to be Elon Musk was all very much like an old man's reply.

00:22:15.520 Like, you are exhausting.

00:22:17.120 You have a very bad personality.

00:22:19.360 This is draining me.

00:22:20.500 Like, that kind of energy.

00:22:21.580 I understand you're saying you're not stupid.

00:22:23.060 Yo, young me, though, I would have been like, fuck you, dude.

00:22:27.040 Yeah, from the top rope.

00:22:28.460 From the top rope, yeah.

00:22:29.500 But old me is just like, you're so obnoxious.

00:22:32.140 You came in here very abrasive.

00:22:33.500 And I don't understand why.

00:22:34.820 You know what the other problem with this is?

00:22:39.000 If that guy really is Elon Musk, there's a voice that very much sounds like him.

00:22:42.580 And I'm willing to, because, you know, my disposition, I'm willing to entertain the idea that this guy is using multiple accounts, right?

00:22:50.540 Let me interject real quick.

00:22:51.820 Let me interject real quick.

00:22:53.320 Elon does not talk that fast.

00:22:55.740 That's the problem.

00:22:56.700 I've watched a ton of Elon Musk interviews.

00:22:59.120 This man is very fast vocally.

00:23:02.000 It is not Elon.

00:23:03.160 So here's the problem then, Clint.

00:23:05.120 This is exactly, thank you, because that's where I was going.

00:23:07.560 Like I said, don't like to attribute 5D chess to a guy that's not playing 5D chess.

00:23:11.440 If anybody was, though, it might be Elon Musk.

00:23:13.480 You could surmise that from his, you know, impact on the world stage.

00:23:16.160 What if he's just been doing a slow draw, right?

00:23:21.780 What if he's just been doing this unnatural, by the way, a lot of people look at his cadence on Rogan and you're like, like people think it's profound when they ask him a question.

00:23:30.120 Like, you know, Rogan will say, well, what do you think about this?

00:23:31.720 And Elon will go.

00:23:32.200 And he'll just stop and he'll stare at the ceiling and then he'll talk like an ent from the Lord of the Rings.

00:23:38.200 And people go, wow, profound.

00:23:40.160 I think Elon Musk is laughing at you that you think that that's profound.

00:23:43.760 He's just slowing it down so that nobody suspects that when some fast-talking dude with a voice that sounds very much like his is actually Elon Musk.

00:23:51.940 People say, well, no, he's very slow.

00:23:53.780 I don't know.

00:23:54.080 I mean, look.

00:23:54.460 Do you think Billy Carson, does Billy Carson talk to his illegitimate children that like in the same cadence that he's, no, he's giving you that like that slow cadence.

00:24:03.980 And it's like to exemplify that I know all this stuff about ancient books that don't exist.

00:24:08.440 Yada, yada, yada.

00:24:09.140 Yes.

00:24:09.640 Yeah.

00:24:10.720 Do you think he talks like that on his headset in Diablo?

00:24:13.660 Do you think he talks like that when like one of his 10 children, you know, breaks into his like emerald stash or something?

00:24:19.140 And do you think he comes to them and he talks real slow?

00:24:21.420 Like, I don't think he does.

00:24:22.380 I think we all have these modes that we get into.

00:24:25.260 You're right.

00:24:25.520 You're right.

00:24:25.940 But I just, I'm just telling you, I, I don't think it's him.

00:24:30.420 That's my opinion.

00:24:31.300 Anyways, you just, you just, I do too.

00:24:34.620 It'd be funny if I called Elon Musk an asshole.

00:24:37.680 But you so rude.

00:24:40.540 Top, top, top is just as you were saying about Billy Carson, which is yet another one of my mutuals.

00:24:46.960 And I don't know if he's a friend, but mutuals.

00:24:48.880 You have been going to war with all of my friends over the past 10 days.

00:24:52.180 Sorry.

00:24:53.100 No, it's, it's fine.

00:24:54.840 It's nothing unusual, honestly.

00:24:56.960 But before, before we do that, I did want to play a clip of the Loomer Milo showdown.

00:25:03.280 Because I haven't seen it.

00:25:04.580 Yeah, you were hiding behind a garbage suit.

00:25:06.700 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:25:07.920 You know, the period where you could just say things that people would assume that you were not lying,

00:25:11.800 is over food.

00:25:12.500 You're a liar, Milo.

00:25:13.540 Everything that you wrote about me is a complete lie.

00:25:15.800 No, I, no, no.

00:25:16.280 Everything that you said.

00:25:17.560 You said I was banned from Mar-a-Lago.

00:25:18.920 Twitter, credit, yeah.

00:25:19.780 I was at Mar-a-Lago two weeks ago for dinner.

00:25:21.880 You should really.

00:25:22.420 I was at Mar-a-Lago two weeks ago.

00:25:24.140 Somebody like you.

00:25:24.820 I was at Mar-a-Lago dinner two miles ago, Milo.

00:25:27.020 This is reality TV show for ugly people.

00:25:29.360 You know what you were told.

00:25:30.020 Yes.

00:25:30.560 You know what you were told.

00:25:31.340 What was I told?

00:25:32.760 What was I told?

00:25:33.360 You know you shouldn't have been told.

00:25:33.980 I haven't been told anything.

00:25:34.880 The family doesn't want you to.

00:25:36.340 The family doesn't want you anywhere near him.

00:25:38.300 That's not true, Milo.

00:25:39.340 You are a liar, Milo.

00:25:40.880 You're jealous because you have never been able to recover from being canceled.

00:25:44.980 Maybe if you went to rehab and got your drug addiction, you would actually be able to, you know, get your life by.

00:25:52.400 Dude, this is people looking for this moment.

00:25:54.960 It's a gay cowboy.

00:25:55.520 The dude's wearing a 10-gallon hat.

00:25:57.140 He looks like Dale Dibbidome.

00:25:58.420 And he's talking about it.

00:25:59.200 It's all like a catchable moment.

00:26:01.460 A gay cowboy and a witch start an argument at a party.

00:26:04.360 And it's like, how does this joke go?

00:26:05.780 I don't know.

00:26:06.300 Who cares?

00:26:07.240 What are they talking about?

00:26:08.440 Milo, I love you.

00:26:09.260 You should have just walked away.

00:26:10.200 She doesn't deserve your time, baby boy.

00:26:12.340 It is entertaining, though.

00:26:13.880 It is entertaining.

00:26:14.420 I enjoyed it.

00:26:14.900 This is what I'm talking about.

00:26:16.080 This is Twitter spaces in real life.

00:26:17.820 That's what that was.

00:26:18.860 Yes.

00:26:18.980 Because that is exactly how Twitter spaces go.

00:26:22.380 And I, well, first off, you said this is, you know,

00:26:25.060 this is, what did you say, Hollywood for ugly people?

00:26:27.300 Milo's not an ugly guy.

00:26:28.100 Reality TV for ugly people.

00:26:29.420 Milo's not handsome.

00:26:31.140 He's kind of, I wouldn't call him handsome.

00:26:33.740 He's, thousands of men disagree with you.

00:26:36.800 I don't know.

00:26:37.200 Black guys will fuck anybody.

00:26:39.180 We're talking about Hollywood, right?

00:26:40.880 He's wearing a bolo tie and a 10-gallon hat, okay?

00:26:44.520 Like, this is, he's literally just entered the green room costume section

00:26:48.860 and then came back out to argue with Laura Loomer.

00:26:51.700 It is.

00:26:52.600 It's theater.

00:26:54.260 It's theater.

00:26:54.900 And it's a lot of fun.

00:26:55.780 It is.

00:26:56.220 It's hilarious.

00:26:57.240 It's bizarre.

00:26:58.460 And I don't dislike them for it, even a little bit, actually.

00:27:00.920 I like them more for it.

00:27:02.300 All right.

00:27:02.580 Let's get into the less salacious shit.

00:27:05.000 Let's talk about Vivek's take on the H-1B immigration issue.

00:27:08.980 Less salacious.

00:27:09.680 Let's talk about the disproportionate representation in our government by India.

00:27:15.100 I can read it.

00:27:15.620 So he says that, you can read it?

00:27:17.400 The reason tech companies often hire foreign,

00:27:19.940 now you can read it if you want to.

00:27:21.980 Son of a bitch.

00:27:22.740 I didn't need a head bobble.

00:27:23.920 The reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born

00:27:26.880 and first-generation engineers over Native Americans

00:27:29.780 isn't because of an innate American IQ deficit,

00:27:32.840 a lazy and wrong explanation.

00:27:34.740 A key part of it comes down to the C word, culture.

00:27:37.820 Tough questions demand tough answers,

00:27:40.320 and if we're really serious about fixing the problem,

00:27:42.620 we have to confront the truth.

00:27:44.880 Our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence

00:27:48.020 for way too long, at least since the 90s, and likely longer.

00:27:51.500 That doesn't start in college.

00:27:52.920 It starts young.

00:27:54.040 A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math Olympia champ

00:27:57.260 or the jock over the valedictorian

00:27:58.980 will not produce the best engineers.

00:28:01.180 All right.

00:28:01.400 Let's pause it there before we get into the 90s pop culture references.

00:28:04.980 I don't disagree with that.

00:28:06.920 I don't.

00:28:07.820 I don't either.

00:28:08.500 I disagree.

00:28:09.160 We would never put Native Americans in high positions.

00:28:11.500 He's not Native American.

00:28:12.900 He's an Indian.

00:28:13.720 He said we would never put Native Americans.

00:28:15.940 He just meant like American people.

00:28:17.880 Pull the tweet back up, please,

00:28:18.880 because it's insulting.

00:28:21.040 Every sentence I read is just like,

00:28:22.460 do you know where you fucking come from, Vivek?

00:28:24.580 Okay?

00:28:25.640 He doesn't come.

00:28:26.820 He was born in Ohio.

00:28:28.540 Nah, he's an immigrant dog.

00:28:29.640 With the late to that skull, I doubt it, dude.

00:28:31.600 I doubt it.

00:28:32.600 It's just crazy.

00:28:33.460 He was in the surfing mountains in Ohio.

00:28:35.700 He was born in Ohio in 1985.

00:28:38.740 That's the truth.

00:28:39.820 Okay.

00:28:40.360 But what is he advocating for?

00:28:42.380 This is what I'm saying.

00:28:43.460 In the end, he advocates for what's like,

00:28:45.180 well, that's why Indians need to take these engineering jobs.

00:28:47.400 But he's talking about our American culture being mediocre.

00:28:50.920 Then he's saying, what's this?

00:28:52.780 Where is it right here?

00:28:53.400 Tough questions.

00:28:54.180 Oh, right, right.

00:28:55.040 It's just crazy.

00:28:55.600 The key part of it comes down to the C word, culture.

00:28:59.140 And, oh, that's a long tweet.

00:29:01.000 You're talking about culture.

00:29:02.860 We've seen way too many videos of India to be fooled in general.

00:29:07.800 And again, whatever.

00:29:08.760 Put aside the fact that he's Indian or that he,

00:29:10.500 I think it's pretty cool what he's saying here.

00:29:12.000 I also think it's cool what Elon Musk did,

00:29:13.640 where this is his platform, Elon Musk.

00:29:15.480 He's going to play by the rules.

00:29:16.740 Those are his people.

00:29:17.640 He has this in-group preference.

00:29:19.420 And yeah, I make the case for that as well.

00:29:21.480 So my people are American.

00:29:22.660 I have that in-group preference.

00:29:23.660 I'll make the case for Americans taking Americans' jobs.

00:29:26.520 And I actually have like this very good example for that here.

00:29:28.820 Not just to be like fucking MAGA all the way,

00:29:31.120 but I live near this old people home called the Villages.

00:29:34.180 And when you walk through it, it's a fucking fantasy land.

00:29:37.240 Do you know why, Clint?

00:29:38.920 Every restaurant that they have here requires that you buy produce and goods from the Villages' farms.

00:29:44.820 Okay?

00:29:45.280 So all that stuff goes right back around.

00:29:47.740 Every single business is very incestuous.

00:29:49.600 If you want to open business here, you have to feed our community.

00:29:52.560 And they're feeding the community in three different ways, depending on the business type.

00:29:56.980 And then I walk through the streets and I go, this place is wonderful.

00:30:00.780 It's like, it's the closest thing to a utopia that you're going to get.

00:30:03.260 Always clean.

00:30:04.020 Flowers put in there.

00:30:05.660 Basically, it's Disney World for elderly people.

00:30:09.400 Right.

00:30:09.660 But I go there.

00:30:10.820 Like there's other people that walk through there.

00:30:12.640 It's not just like for them.

00:30:13.940 You can go through the squares and, you know, do what you're going to do.

00:30:16.600 It was awesome.

00:30:17.480 The streets are clean.

00:30:18.940 There's, yeah.

00:30:20.100 Are you guys not seeing this argument, though?

00:30:22.480 Is there anything to say, though, that, you know, we're keeping everything in-house?

00:30:27.940 Like we're not letting you go outsource stuff?

00:30:30.560 So then look at this community, how it's grown and how beautiful it is because they continue to feed their businesses and themselves.

00:30:36.700 And everything kind of stays within.

00:30:37.900 That model, that model is winning and the culture that we exist in right now tells you that that model is obsolete.

00:30:43.560 That we have to integrate as much variety as possible and, you know, make sure everybody has a slice of the pie and everybody gets to contribute.

00:30:50.600 And it seems that homogenization actually creates a much better system.

00:30:54.620 Also, I'd like to-

00:30:55.820 Well, that's the Nick Fuentes argument.

00:30:58.200 Anyways, go ahead.

00:30:58.800 I'd like to address his argument about the culture.

00:31:00.960 Again, I understand what he's saying about the culture.

00:31:03.020 And in a lot of ways, American culture does kind of suck.

00:31:05.960 Watching Boy Meets World and going to the mall and doing these things like this, all this, I don't know, 80s rhetoric.

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00:31:40.400 Yeah, I mean, that doesn't really happen anymore.

00:31:42.080 Here, let me read the rest of it for the audience that isn't familiar.

00:31:44.540 He says, a culture that venerates Corey from Boy Meets World, which I totally do,

00:31:49.620 or Zack and Slater over Screech and Saved by the Bell.

00:31:52.440 Who the fuck didn't?

00:31:53.880 Zack and Slater were obviously better than Screech.

00:31:55.820 Screech was a punching bag idiot.

00:31:57.440 Or Stefan over Steve Urkel.

00:31:59.480 Steve Urkel sucked.

00:32:00.740 Stefan was cool as hell in Family Matters.

00:32:04.520 Will not produce the best engineers.

00:32:06.380 Clint, who creates these kind of Hollywood movies and TV shows?

00:32:10.340 And why would they?

00:32:11.200 I'm not doing this.

00:32:12.020 Okay, I'm just saying.

00:32:15.600 He's right, though.

00:32:16.560 He's right.

00:32:17.240 He's right.

00:32:17.720 You're venerating the wrong people, but it's intentional.

00:32:21.280 But, I mean, you can make a cool nerd, though.

00:32:23.620 Like, you can make a nerd that you look up to.

00:32:27.020 It's eluding me of an example.

00:32:29.100 There are examples in Hollywood that have done this.

00:32:32.500 But these are like, this was when nerds were still being kind of degraded.

00:32:37.940 Nerds, like, what's the Big Bang Theory?

00:32:40.660 Aren't they?

00:32:41.240 Yeah, yeah.

00:32:41.480 They're being venerated now.

00:32:42.800 And by the way, we've learned that that was actually the wrong move because we've championed a bunch of weaklings and nerds.

00:32:48.140 And now we've wondered why masculinity is all but absent from our culture.

00:32:51.720 Thank you.

00:32:52.100 This is actually the bigger point I wanted to make.

00:32:53.700 And as you know, I don't often disagree with Vake, much to Owen Benjamin's consternation.

00:32:59.240 But I actually think it's not a good thing to venerate the nerds.

00:33:04.220 I think that the nerds, particularly in the natural hierarchy of humanity, if you're weak and unable to defend yourself, you're going to deal with some abuse.

00:33:14.100 Now, that is not good, and I'm not advocating for that.

00:33:16.760 But I will say this, it is not advisable for a civilization to be ran by those people because at the end of the day, they are seeking vengeance for past injustice.

00:33:28.580 That's what we've learned.

00:33:29.960 Well, exactly.

00:33:31.040 The Anthony Fauci's of the world, like, do you think that he was cool in high school?

00:33:34.280 Probably not.

00:33:35.440 And he's become an absolute demon as an adult.

00:33:38.640 You don't want people like that in positions of power.

00:33:40.820 I stand by that as much as I'm not a fan of the, you know, high school quarterback.

00:33:47.320 He's kind of a douche, too.

00:33:48.640 He would probably be a better president than the head of the, you know, science class.

00:33:54.460 Right.

00:33:54.860 Just being honest.

00:33:55.720 That's the truth.

00:33:56.040 Yeah, I think so.

00:33:56.920 I think you're when you're a child and you're out on the outside of the in group, it does create a resentment in you.

00:34:04.120 And then we see a lot of those people, we gave that a chance, culturally speaking, we championed the nerd for probably the past decade, maybe 15 years.

00:34:12.180 And I think that it's been an experiment that's gone on long enough that we can see the fruits of that experiment.

00:34:16.900 And it is that these people actually harbor a tremendous amount of resentment.

00:34:20.600 And in the many ways that they are weak physically and confidently and in their personality, it actually manifests as really undesirable traits in other aspects of their personality.

00:34:30.540 We've seen this unfold and what we've also seen is the removal of that flavor of masculinity from the West.

00:34:37.840 And we have suffered greatly for it.

00:34:39.780 You know, it's why we've seen rise given to that expression of hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create bad times.

00:34:52.320 It's a cycle that history, you know, seems to display pretty obviously.

00:34:56.620 And I think we're done with the experiment.

00:34:58.520 We've seen what it does.

00:34:59.400 It does just that.

00:35:00.480 It creates hard times.

00:35:01.980 Yeah.

00:35:02.220 Well, unfortunately, I think that the cycle is kind of unstoppable.

00:35:06.760 You know, we went through really good times.

00:35:09.140 And the really good times that Vivek is lamenting were the 90s.

00:35:13.020 Those were probably the best times.

00:35:15.060 And I know this is because it's from my childhood.

00:35:16.780 People are just going to assume that I'm being nostalgic.

00:35:21.080 Like, no, you can actually look at it.

00:35:23.220 America was crushing.

00:35:25.780 We had a trillion dollars in debt, one trillion by the early 90s.

00:35:32.980 That's it.

00:35:33.520 Not 36, 37, or whatever it's going to be in a couple days here.

00:35:37.220 And there was no other superpower to compete with.

00:35:42.260 And culturally.

00:35:43.040 There was no wars other than just wars of, you know, for funsies for the military industrial complex.

00:35:49.720 We had no threats, no fights.

00:35:52.560 Economy's crushing.

00:35:53.960 Social cohesion is fairly high, even though you did have the Rodney King riots and all that stuff.

00:35:59.960 But racism was, like, at a low, right?

00:36:02.620 It was.

00:36:02.840 It was like when we were.

00:36:03.560 Absolutely.

00:36:04.360 We were leaning into the idea that we were all different and that's what makes us special.

00:36:09.760 That was what we were being told.

00:36:10.860 Now it's like there is no difference and all this other crazy crap.

00:36:14.000 But, yeah, culturally, we were in a beautiful place, too, as far as art and what was being manufactured at that time.

00:36:19.360 The greatest movies, the greatest shows.

00:36:21.460 You know, all of that shit was happening in the 90s.

00:36:24.000 We've since suffered tremendously.

00:36:25.740 Half of the most famous influencers and people in the world, or in America, at least, were black.

00:36:33.440 Michael Jordan, Oprah, Eddie Murphy.

00:36:36.500 I mean, black people were fucking crushing in the 90s.

00:36:39.460 And then by the time the 2000s or the 2010s roll around, we find out all of us that grew up loving black people are racist now.

00:36:47.540 And it was like, fuck, what happened?

00:36:49.940 But anyways, I do think that the cycle is essentially unstoppable.

00:36:54.320 I think that Vivek is wrong, though, in that that was indicative of the problem.

00:37:01.520 I don't think that the problem is that we need to lionize nerddom.

00:37:07.440 That's, yeah, that's not working.

00:37:09.320 The way civilization normally functions is that those with small peckers end up becoming rich because they need to find a way to mate.

00:37:17.380 Okay?

00:37:18.020 So there's nothing wrong with that.

00:37:20.160 We don't need to pretend that everyone's got a big wang.

00:37:25.300 Everyone's going to find a way to compete with whatever skill set they were offered.

00:37:29.080 If you were offered great looks, you're probably not going to be as hard charging as a guy who's ugly.

00:37:33.720 If you have a big dong, you're probably not going to be willing to work 60 hours a week.

00:37:38.020 Okay?

00:37:38.460 That's how it works.

00:37:39.320 Can you pull up that picture?

00:37:41.760 Of your dong?

00:37:42.460 No, it's a picture of Clint's dong.

00:37:44.480 No, it's a dot graph chart where it's penis size versus income.

00:37:47.760 At the very top right, there's just one dot, and there's Clint right there.

00:37:51.720 The rest of us are just kind of in the middle.

00:37:54.200 No, no, no, no.

00:37:55.300 You know, I want to ask you guys, I'm surprised that you haven't seen this, and maybe I'm wrong in seeing it, so please tell me if I'm wrong.

00:38:02.340 But it feels very much like the argument here is because Americans suck, because their culture is such that it is conducive to sucking.

00:38:12.620 So does this not feel like it rhymes with why is there such a – and I'm not going to go on a tangent here.

00:38:18.280 I'm not going to go where you think I'm going to go, Clint, so don't worry.

00:38:20.340 But I'm just saying why is there a disproportionate representation of Jews in our politics?

00:38:25.100 Why is there a disproportionate amount of Jews in the Nobel category, Nobel Peace Prize category?

00:38:30.540 You were absolutely going where I thought you were going to go.

00:38:32.500 Okay, fine.

00:38:32.960 I lied to you.

00:38:33.880 So the answer is because – and it really boils down to this is what everybody's become pretty comfortable with.

00:38:39.900 They're better.

00:38:40.780 Intellectually speaking, they're better.

00:38:41.960 And it's just a wild premise to put out there because racism –

00:38:44.120 Super demoralizing, yeah.

00:38:45.380 Yeah, racism in one – you're never allowed to say white people are superior intellectually than – insert race, right?

00:38:51.520 You're not allowed to say that.

00:38:52.760 Spirit fingers.

00:38:53.580 But they've said that to us, and they've said it on a grand scale.

00:38:58.840 Now they're saying it about Indian people, which is so insulting to me.

00:39:03.380 I've seen what you do.

00:39:04.200 Okay, so this is where I want you to tell me that I'm wrong.

00:39:06.320 Is this not the same shit just repackaged by a different race?

00:39:10.080 It's Indian people are excelling in these fields because they're better than Americans, in this case because of their culture.

00:39:16.940 But it's the same thing as we are disproportionate award-winning Nobel Peace Prize people because we're smarter than you.

00:39:24.240 It's the same shit, is it not?

00:39:25.280 Well, here's my perspective on it.

00:39:28.620 So I think that first-generation or second-generation immigrants just tend to be of better stock than domestic-born Americans simply because they are the type of people that – especially legal immigrants that went through that process because it's fucking hard as hell.

00:39:45.200 So if you get here and then you have kids, like, you have already demonstrated that you're the type of person that's trying to achieve something that's better than basically everybody else you know.

00:39:56.220 Right.

00:39:56.320 And this is not a racial or cultural thing as much as it is, like, this is just how Americans are built.

00:40:05.120 Like, the – go ahead.

00:40:09.820 I didn't say anything.

00:40:10.460 I didn't say anything.

00:40:10.640 Cultural thing because – no, to Clint.

00:40:14.500 So what I'm saying is in boxing, you can see this, where a lot of times it'll be, like, a downtrodden race who has –

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00:41:52.780 ...who has a lot of trouble economically in their country.

00:41:56.080 They come to America.

00:41:57.800 They become boxing phenoms.

00:41:59.680 You will see the Italians dominate for a period.

00:42:03.720 You saw the Irish dominate for a period.

00:42:06.300 You see black people dominate for a period.

00:42:08.660 You see Mexico dominate for a period.

00:42:10.740 The baton gets passed, and it seems to be a correlation with how hungry you are as a people.

00:42:16.060 It's irrefutably true.

00:42:20.100 And I love those people.

00:42:22.400 I think, I mean, that's what, I'm a huge fight fan, too.

00:42:25.300 I'm a huge boxing fan.

00:42:26.600 I love to see the underclass find a way to become one of the richest, most famous people in the world.

00:42:35.160 I think that's fucking awesome.

00:42:36.260 So, I apply that to Indians, too, because the Indians that get here are the creme de la creme, usually, of their nation.

00:42:45.300 There's one, you know, it's true.

00:42:46.760 Hold on.

00:42:47.300 I know you're shaking your head.

00:42:48.460 It's true, though.

00:42:49.400 There's 1.5 billion people in India.

00:42:51.780 If you don't think that there's some extraordinarily impressive people that come out of India, you're out of your fucking mind.

00:42:57.060 Vivek happens to be one of them.

00:42:58.340 Even though he was born in Ohio, you racist.

00:43:02.120 I just don't think he's that impressive.

00:43:04.020 But go ahead.

00:43:04.460 Yeah, well, you're wrong.

00:43:06.580 But the point being, I think that the first generation migrant that gets here, be they Chinese, be they Indian, be they from wherever, they tend to have offspring that are harder studying, harder charging, more serious people than the domestic-born population.

00:43:24.620 Therefore, the domestic-born population has a hard time competing with them.

00:43:28.120 That's not to say that these people are superior to Americans as much as, like, the cultural framework of the first and second generation migrant is superior to that of the domestic-born.

00:43:39.320 Therefore, they end up outperforming.

00:43:41.980 Which, by the way, is a complete annihilation of the thesis that America is racist because first and second generation immigrants tend to kick ass here.

00:43:51.080 Then how come my fucking tech doesn't work?

00:43:54.920 How come when I call a number, I can't get a fucking answer from somebody?

00:43:57.360 Because I just said that 1.5 billion people in India, not everybody in India is great.

00:44:03.940 That's not what I'm arguing.

00:44:05.100 I'm saying the creme de la creme.

00:44:06.920 Think about what a sample size of the 0.01% most intelligent, hardest-working, brilliant people that come out at a 1.5 billion.

00:44:16.700 Think about how fucking smart those people must be.

00:44:18.640 Yeah, but there's so many more, Clint.

00:44:20.460 There's so many more that are in 7-Elevens.

00:44:22.140 I'm not arguing that all people in India are awesome.

00:44:25.000 That's not what I'm doing.

00:44:25.860 What I'm saying is, though, is that what he's making is this weird, general, sweeping term where I'm looking at the immigrants that come here.

00:44:32.320 And it's like, well, look at these Mexicans.

00:44:33.800 They build a great house.

00:44:34.520 No, they don't.

00:44:35.420 They suck.

00:44:36.920 My parents' door doesn't close because they had some fucking Mexican to frame it out.

00:44:41.080 What does Sam Tripoli say?

00:44:42.380 He's like, they're great at volume, bad at the details.

00:44:46.280 Yeah, I mean, it's just not quality work.

00:44:49.180 When you look at shit in America before, and it was like, this was quality.

00:44:52.480 It's not like that anymore.

00:44:53.580 And you know what?

00:44:54.240 Maybe the current generation is lazy because, yeah, as we've gone through that cycle.

00:44:59.940 But how much of that laziness is because maybe the upper class got nervous and started importing people from the third world because we're going to need more workers.

00:45:11.900 I don't know.

00:45:12.840 Let these people give these people a shot.

00:45:14.340 Let Americans do what they have to do first.

00:45:17.900 Yeah.

00:45:18.220 No, look, I actually agree with that last part that my focus is on Americans.

00:45:22.940 I'm not, I am not, you know, libertarian, globalist type.

00:45:29.140 Like, my interest is in my family, my community, then my state, then my country, and then the world.

00:45:36.340 Like, concentric circles going outwards, right?

00:45:38.920 This is what Jews do, and it's very smart.

00:45:41.320 But you go to Borough Park, they have their own pizza shop.

00:45:44.740 Is there anything I can say that you guys won't type back to Jews?

00:45:47.040 No.

00:45:47.380 Anyways, keep going.

00:45:48.020 It's what I respect about them.

00:45:49.340 I think it's a very important subject.

00:45:49.880 It's Jews.

00:45:50.760 Black people don't do this, which is why their culture is falling apart and why they are the way they are.

00:45:55.100 But Jews, they'll go to their own Jewish pizza shop, garbage pizza, but they'll go and they'll frequent that pizza store and give them business.

00:46:02.680 And it's like, even though it's not as good, they still buy it.

00:46:05.320 And it's not as good.

00:46:06.340 It's called pizza bagel.

00:46:07.360 It's horrible.

00:46:07.680 And they're doing that.

00:46:08.500 They're homogenizing their own communities, right?

00:46:10.800 They're creating a feedback loop.

00:46:12.420 There is a fucking thought.

00:46:13.420 A financial feedback loop.

00:46:14.500 Imagine.

00:46:15.060 Right.

00:46:15.540 Killer Mike, the rapper, talks about this all the time.

00:46:17.920 It's like, that's what he wants to do.

00:46:20.260 He wants to have, because they always talk about how, I forget, what was the black capital of America?

00:46:26.560 Was it Atlanta?

00:46:27.860 There was some town.

00:46:30.240 Yeah, Black Wall Street.

00:46:30.940 What was that?

00:46:31.680 I don't remember what it was.

00:46:33.340 Anyways, so he's saying, we got to support our businesses.

00:46:37.660 We got to support our community.

00:46:39.040 Like, that's, but here's the problem.

00:46:40.880 And here's what I don't like about this.

00:46:42.680 And this is kind of controversial, but you guys will probably agree.

00:46:45.960 White people in America are the only ones that don't do that.

00:46:48.740 I was going to say it.

00:46:49.560 You should have just let me say it.

00:46:50.620 I'll lie on the books for you.

00:46:51.220 Oh, go ahead.

00:46:51.860 I'll lay on it.

00:46:52.680 Well, I was just going to say, no, you're absolutely correct.

00:46:55.080 That is a smart thing to do for the future of your community.

00:46:59.820 But if white people engage in that, it's seen as overt racism.

00:47:03.820 Right.

00:47:04.040 And that is racism to the-

00:47:06.420 Hold on, hold on.

00:47:07.040 It's not just seen as overt racism.

00:47:08.860 It's illegal because of the Civil Rights Act.

00:47:11.560 Correct.

00:47:11.580 You fucking can't do that.

00:47:13.700 So, sorry, go ahead.

00:47:14.720 Yeah.

00:47:15.140 I mean, no, that's a really solid point.

00:47:17.820 And you have to ask yourself, too, when it comes to this, you know, whatever degree of representation in high levels of influence, whether or not it's engineering or politics, the representation by, let's say, India, for example.

00:47:30.580 Now, how it happens is open for speculation, but you have to ask yourself this question.

00:47:37.240 It's like we've seen what it does on a cultural level, on just a civilian level, when you integrate or attempt to integrate vastly different cultures into one another.

00:47:45.940 What ends up happening is they also homogenize.

00:47:48.700 They become their own little in-groups.

00:47:50.820 And there is what – the result of which is a lack in cultural cohesion, right?

00:47:56.600 If you want to talk about the fabric that makes up America, the fabric is full of holes because everybody is isolated, and they're remaining in their own groups, and they're not integrating with one another.

00:48:06.960 We have this illusion that that's what happens, but you need only look at, like, Chinatown as an example of that.

00:48:11.760 Like, they will pull away, and they will create their own self-sustaining in-groups where they don't actually have to interact with the rest of America at large.

00:48:19.080 That happens on a civilian level.

00:48:21.120 What happens when it starts happening on a political level, and people start bringing over – and this has always been the issue, right, with America.

00:48:28.480 But, of course, if you said anything about this, you were racist and intolerant.

00:48:32.520 But it's like you have a completely different belief system – give me a second there – a completely different belief system that is at odds with if you believe this is a Christian nation.

00:48:42.520 And not only are they integrating on a civilian level, but now they're integrating on a political level.

00:48:48.160 And you're going to see the ramifications of that.

00:48:49.980 You're going to see that culture bleed in from above and below now.

00:48:53.980 And I'm not saying that that's good or bad.

00:48:55.860 I'm just saying expand on that.

00:48:58.520 Where does that lead?

00:48:59.100 Yeah, this is my concern, actually, is that because white people are the only people that don't do that, it does seem as if it's a competitive disadvantage.

00:49:10.340 Like, you're going to lose because you are not collaborating to look after one another, whereas everybody else is.

00:49:19.080 And any attempt to do that is, like you said, Clint, seen as racism even illegal on a business level.

00:49:24.400 Yeah, exactly.

00:49:25.320 So I just want to be very clear.

00:49:27.800 I don't want to do that.

00:49:30.260 I don't want to – because I don't identify with all white people and go like, yeah, you're my brother.

00:49:36.100 Like, that's not how I look at the world.

00:49:38.740 And unfortunately, a lot of other races do.

00:49:41.560 And it's like, because I was born into that mindset or schooled into it, I don't know which, I'm very hesitant to go down that line of thinking.

00:49:52.500 And I think that it's extraordinarily divisive.

00:49:54.380 But at the same time, if you're not going to demand the same sort of colorblind worldview of minorities, well, then you are mandating that white people start to do the same.

00:50:09.200 And I just – like, this is going to be a very controversial thing for me to say, but I think I'm absolutely fucking right or I would not be saying it.

00:50:15.620 This is how countries fall apart, especially a country that's built on diversity.

00:50:20.100 If you don't demand the same thing of the minorities as you do of the majority, well, then you're fucking destroying your country.

00:50:28.700 Okay?

00:50:29.080 You can't have different rules for different groups of people.

00:50:32.340 That was the whole idea of America is that it was going to be, you know, like, that's the thing.

00:50:37.880 You adhere to American culture.

00:50:40.380 You're whatever you are second to being an American first.

00:50:44.060 And justice is blind, but also so are we.

00:50:47.160 Like, that's how we look at it.

00:50:48.700 Everybody was going to – you know, if you work hard, it doesn't matter what you look like, it doesn't matter what your religion is, it doesn't matter what your sex is, you're going to fucking make it in America if you – like, assuming you don't have bad luck.

00:50:59.260 Like, that is dying on the mind because you only apply the rules of colorblindness to the majority.

00:51:08.180 Isn't it?

00:51:08.540 I just think it's actually racist, too, because you're permitting minorities to treat white people poorly, whereas we would never allow for white people to do that in reverse.

00:51:20.020 And, in fact, we do not allow it.

00:51:21.380 White people can't be victims of racism because power structures.

00:51:24.600 Exactly.

00:51:24.880 White people have always had power and thereby have always been the enforcers of racism.

00:51:29.060 Which is why critical theory is so dangerous.

00:51:31.160 Go ahead.

00:51:31.460 Look at that.

00:51:32.120 Like, so take a step back from it now.

00:51:33.920 Like, we've described the old guard of, well, the government and I suppose what's supposed to be coming in.

00:51:39.340 But it's really more of the same.

00:51:40.420 Like, if these punishments with the blue checkmark is actually about – it's the same thing.

00:51:47.000 It's like white people stepping out of the line.

00:51:48.500 What I saw here was – I saw Vivek say that his people should get these jobs.

00:51:54.540 He's looking out for people that look like him.

00:51:56.040 And I'm like, I fucking get it.

00:51:57.960 I don't look like you that much, but I'm not like you.

00:52:00.940 I'm not Indian.

00:52:01.900 I'm more Indian.

00:52:02.880 I identify – I'm more American.

00:52:04.860 I identify as American, so that's my team.

00:52:06.700 But if that's your team and that's kind of what you're telling me, fine.

00:52:10.320 I don't think you should be in American politics.

00:52:12.780 Get the fuck out of here with that.

00:52:14.580 But that's where you're at.

00:52:16.180 I get it.

00:52:16.880 On the other hand, you have the enforcement level that's slapping these people on the hand.

00:52:22.000 You took away their blue checkmark, but that's not the only thing that he did that Elon Musk said.

00:52:26.620 I don't know if you caught this.

00:52:27.880 You probably did, Clint, with his new feature for the block button, right?

00:52:32.320 Oh, yeah.

00:52:32.680 Yeah, basically, if you get blocked by a lot of blue checks, you are essentially shadow manned.

00:52:39.840 Yeah, exactly.

00:52:41.560 And then he also said a couple of things that are antagonistic.

00:52:45.180 You can say what you want on here after he got ratioed to death by a 50-follower account for saying the truth or whatever.

00:52:54.320 The truth as that person sees it and everybody else, which is – it got to hurt, man.

00:52:59.780 You own the platform, you're doing all this shit, you're moving culture, and then still, there's still lines you just can't move, Elon.

00:53:06.740 You would imagine that you, speaking truth to power, if power happens to have a blue checkmark, would rub them the wrong way.

00:53:14.060 You might get blocked by a lot of powerful people with blue checkmarks for saying things that make them uncomfortable, but that's not allowed here now.

00:53:19.460 And then add to that that all it requires is a foreign government or our own government to have a bot network of verified accounts that goes around suppressing narratives that they don't want to see.

00:53:32.500 Hello?

00:53:33.280 Right.

00:53:33.460 You can't fucking do this.

00:53:34.620 This is a terrible idea.

00:53:36.220 It should have taken 10 seconds for someone to say, hey, this is going to be a problem.

00:53:40.320 Don't go down this path.

00:53:41.520 But apparently that didn't happen, and I find that fascinating, and it does seem as if it's a kind of a backdoor way of narrative control, which is exactly what Elon has espoused the antithesis to.

00:53:54.100 So I don't know.

00:53:55.220 It's uncharacteristic.

00:53:55.640 I think he's engineering culture.

00:53:57.040 That's what I see.

00:53:57.800 I see the man selectively engineering culture, moving little things here, and controlling the flow of dialogue and narratives.

00:54:04.800 Well, let's just be honest, though.

00:54:06.220 If you let us talk freely, you're not going to be able to control the narrative, and you're not going to be able to control the culture, because that's why our entire sphere has excelled over the past, since Elon bought it, which is why I'm so appreciative of him.

00:54:19.440 How much did he buy it for?

00:54:20.840 $44 billion.

00:54:21.520 $44 billion.

00:54:22.360 Yeah, $44.

00:54:23.000 Do you think that a dude spent $44 billion on a platform because of altruism, or does he seek to be the most powerful man with his finger on the culture that's ever existed?

00:54:34.200 He brought himself a position in the White House with this move.

00:54:37.660 You don't buy that position in Tesla.

00:54:39.780 We've been looking at him through this lens of what a good guy he is, and it's been a lot of fun, and there's been a lot of great things that have come about culturally and politically because of Elon Musk.

00:54:48.120 But we need to get our heads out of our asses in assuming that somebody operating on that high of a level with that much money at stake is doing this for our benefit.

00:54:56.680 When has that ever happened?

00:54:58.240 Well, it's rare.

00:54:59.460 It's basically a John Galt argument from Atlas Shrugged that he's doing it to the benefit of humanity.

00:55:05.660 And look, I am a believer in liberty, and as a billionaire, I would do shit like this.

00:55:11.760 So it's not outside of the realm of possibility that someone with my worldview would rise to the highest level of wealth and do something like that.

00:55:19.080 But that is not me saying that that's what this guy is.

00:55:22.000 I don't know.

00:55:22.500 So that's not saying that you'd be able to execute that, that other powerful people wouldn't stand in your way and say something compelling.

00:55:28.700 Well, because of my belief system, I almost certainly wouldn't be able to do what Elon has done because I am a danger.

00:55:34.540 You know, I want to go back to this idea where we're talking about what happens when there's an overrepresentation on a civilian level and a political level.

00:55:45.300 The huge problem with that isn't necessarily that we're all going to be worshiping Shiva because that was a lot of the thing, right?

00:55:51.620 It's like they're going to come here, and next thing you know, Christianity is going to be out the window.

00:55:54.660 We're going to be worshiping some other deity from some other foreign country.

00:55:57.820 I don't think that that's necessarily the issue here.

00:56:00.080 I think that the issue is what's become glaringly obvious to us over the past four to five years.

00:56:06.420 There are major players who seek to subvert our country, who have ill will towards, you know, our principles, our values, our morals as a country, as a unit.

00:56:19.340 If you have this, you know, cultural fabric and it's filled with all of these holes and those holes being the lack of cohesion from one culture to the next, that is just areas for these people who seek to subvert us to stick their fingers in and start tearing at.

00:56:36.300 That lack of cohesion is hugely dangerous because then we cannot act as one sound mind with one shared set of principles, one shared sort of set of values.

00:56:46.220 That's how you create a generation of people who don't have much hope, who aren't great workers, who aren't building the things that their fathers have built.

00:56:53.880 You start with this bullshit.

00:56:55.020 You start tearing at the fabric of society and what they – they're doing it now.

00:56:58.740 Like that Kim Kardashian video, Macaulay Culkin at the end, he's the guy that's basically filmed this Kubrick style, eyes wide shut party.

00:57:08.420 Mufasa, you have the – Mufasa now in that new movie that they released, he seems to be the bad guy and Scar seems to be the good guy.

00:57:15.260 So, like, the narrative of, like, these stories that we've been told are flipped on their head and then they look back at us and they go, well, what now?

00:57:22.540 You know, the guy that you believed in is now the bad guy.

00:57:25.280 It's like, well, what if we switch these roles and it's like, you're just doing that in P. Diddy, same shit, all of our idols.

00:57:30.180 Hold on, hold on.

00:57:30.500 I got to point this out.

00:57:32.100 Same with Michael Jackson.

00:57:33.460 I got to point this out.

00:57:34.720 That is critical theory.

00:57:36.260 That's exactly what they've done to the foundation of America.

00:57:38.700 They say that the founders weren't, you know, beautiful freedom-fighting revolutionaries.

00:57:43.620 They were, in fact, fucking slaveholders and that's all they were.

00:57:46.700 They've done it to Disney, too.

00:57:48.280 You will not talk about the good aspect.

00:57:49.440 But this is what I'm saying with Mufasa is that you're flipping the roles.

00:57:52.540 You're saying the hero is the good guy and the villain is the bad guy.

00:57:55.340 Clint, these people, these people, demons, and I'm not saying like, you know, any racial

00:58:00.220 type, but no, I'm just saying they're literal demons.

00:58:02.620 I think they're in contact with entities.

00:58:04.760 They can't recreate.

00:58:06.600 They can only tell you the same story and pervert it.

00:58:09.020 They've been doing it since.

00:58:10.480 Invert and pervert.

00:58:11.600 And then it has, but I mean, it's a profound effect if they keep playing the same move.

00:58:15.000 Like, why would you change it?

00:58:16.240 But I'm on to you guys.

00:58:17.320 But look, man, even all the conspiracy stuff aside, like I said, without cohesion in that

00:58:24.600 fabric, there's just a million opportunities to set people against each other.

00:58:29.500 Here's a little fire I can start because there's a hole.

00:58:32.040 There's a gap in their game.

00:58:33.240 It's like all of it is holes in our game.

00:58:35.320 And if there's too many holes, there's too many advantages for those who seek to subvert

00:58:39.240 us.

00:58:39.400 And if you don't think that there are powerful groups out there that seek to subvert us, I

00:58:43.540 don't know where the fuck you've been for the past five years.

00:58:45.240 Well, no, there's obviously powerful interests that would love to subvert us.

00:58:50.000 And here's the problem.

00:58:51.380 If you have too cohesive of a unit of a population, well, then you're probably going to figure

00:58:57.920 out who's really running shit because whoever's going against the cohesive unit will be instantly

00:59:03.960 perceived as a threat.

00:59:05.560 In this case, that would be the intel agencies, the military industrial complex, the government,

00:59:10.300 foreign governments, whatever.

00:59:11.420 Um, so what, how do you stop us from coming together to identify that?

00:59:17.180 Well, you make us fight each other.

00:59:18.780 And, and that's, that's, we all become the Spider-Man meme where we're all just pointing

00:59:22.800 at each other.

00:59:23.420 This is what's happening with the right.

00:59:25.440 And this is what I was just going to say.

00:59:27.400 That's exactly what's happening with his H1B debate.

00:59:29.700 Um, now I am of the opinion that like, I'm not going to say every time there's a division

00:59:36.720 within a movement, that's necessarily an op or necessarily a bad thing.

00:59:41.300 I think this is a debate that needs to happen.

00:59:43.440 Uh, it's, it's going to test the, the cohesion of this new right-wing dissident movement, which

00:59:50.520 consists of all the way from hardline white nationalists to libertarian, uh, you know,

00:59:57.140 nationalists, like there's, there's a very wide range of people, including some dissident

01:00:02.780 Democrats, you know, the RFK junior camp.

01:00:05.140 This is like the big tent.

01:00:06.300 It's like a libertarian big tent, but it's on the right.

01:00:09.360 It's a really big tent, man.

01:00:11.280 Um, so naturally there's going to be real disagreements and this was naturally going to happen.

01:00:16.060 I think that the timing of it's interesting.

01:00:17.780 I think that before Trump even gets in the white house, makes me go like, wow, where

01:00:23.060 the fuck did this come from on Christmas day?

01:00:25.660 We're tearing each other's throats apart because of H1Bs like really?

01:00:30.580 Um, so I don't know how to read it at this point, but I am of the opinion that I like

01:00:34.380 open debate and I like, uh, contentious arguments.

01:00:36.860 And I think a lot of this has been really high level.

01:00:39.660 I've actually learned a lot.

01:00:41.080 Like I didn't know about, uh, the, the caps on H1Bs.

01:00:44.100 In fact, I had to delete a tweet yesterday because I asked Grok, Grok lied to me.

01:00:47.820 Uh, it gave me the applications as opposed to the actual, uh, accepted, which is apparently

01:00:52.780 capped at 85,000 per year.

01:00:55.180 Anyways, um, let me give a little bit of background for this.

01:00:58.360 So there's O1s, which is the, uh, the highest level of, uh, athletic achievement, intellectual

01:01:06.000 business, whatever.

01:01:07.100 These are the fucking, these are the superstars that I personally, you guys may disagree.

01:01:11.460 I personally want them wherever they're fucking at, I would love for them to become Americans.

01:01:15.740 I want to, I want to brain drain the rest of the world.

01:01:18.640 I think that gives America the best chance of competing in the next generation, the next

01:01:23.100 century.

01:01:23.640 Uh, I think that, uh, particularly because I think the AI race is so important.

01:01:27.560 You definitely want to fucking take the smartest people and bring them over here.

01:01:31.540 Uh, especially if we're headed to war, you want to have the fucking smartest people operation

01:01:35.840 paperclip, right?

01:01:36.780 Let me just say this though.

01:01:38.300 So I will, I want to put an asterisk on that.

01:01:41.000 I, you said, I want them to become Americans.

01:01:43.980 That's super important, but look at America.

01:01:46.460 What is America?

01:01:47.680 There's no cohesive culture.

01:01:49.000 So when they come, they bring their own relation.

01:01:50.900 Yeah.

01:01:51.080 There's no loyalty from, you know, them to us.

01:01:54.020 They're just here collecting a check and using our economy.

01:01:56.500 And then who knows what else?

01:01:57.980 You're absolutely right.

01:01:58.960 And this is the point that I was making earlier is that if you don't demand of minorities,

01:02:03.400 which includes immigrants, obviously they would naturally be a minority, um, if you don't

01:02:08.800 demand of them, the same thing you do of the majority, the domestic born Americans and

01:02:13.420 particularly domestic born white people, well, then you are asking for trouble.

01:02:17.420 So I am of the opinion that yes, I am not opposed to all immigration.

01:02:21.560 I think that, that what has made America special is that it is, it is, you know, trend setting

01:02:27.080 just lunatics that are willing to go out and do something that no, very few people on earth

01:02:32.260 would be willing to do, which is leave their, their country and travel thousands of miles

01:02:36.560 across the ocean, particularly before fucking air travel existed.

01:02:39.680 These people were lunatics.

01:02:41.000 My great grandfather was a fucking savage.

01:02:42.920 I don't know what the hell he was thinking.

01:02:44.140 I would have never done that.

01:02:45.040 That's like not crazy shit to do.

01:02:47.660 Yeah.

01:02:48.040 Totally, totally uncozy.

01:02:50.220 Um, but then again, he was, I think he was fleeing Germany during world war one.

01:02:54.520 So it probably made sense, but anyway, less cozy.

01:02:58.240 So, so much less cozy than me.

01:03:00.620 Isn't it funny though, Clint, because it's like the thing that you're asking is very reasonable

01:03:03.860 on its face, but we've been recently handed this like engineered culture that took a long

01:03:07.940 time to engineer, by the way, it was engineered by politics.

01:03:10.460 It was engineered by the feminist movement.

01:03:11.880 It was engineered by Hollywood and everything else that's been just feeding us this, this

01:03:15.860 garbage to the point where a very reasonable ask is now determined to be racist.

01:03:20.880 And I think that's why it's also why I jumped, I didn't really jump down, uh, Vivek's throat

01:03:26.780 or Elon because I was busy on, on a Christmas day doing something else a little, a lot more

01:03:30.680 fun, but it's, it is the reason why when, when you see these things, like this is my knee

01:03:34.720 jerk reaction.

01:03:35.420 And I'm like, like, when I hear people using this sort of language, I'm like, what are you

01:03:39.040 getting at?

01:03:39.800 What are you getting at?

01:03:40.380 Because I, underneath this, like I've seen this kind of ploy before.

01:03:43.380 And at the end of it, it's usually some kind of weird sigh up from the left.

01:03:46.800 So where are you really at?

01:03:48.600 I also don't like the demoralizing language.

01:03:51.000 It's like, have we not beaten down white American men enough for the past, you know,

01:03:56.140 half a decade or something like that?

01:03:57.780 Like it's gotten to the point where it's disgusting and it's given rise to, if there

01:04:01.560 ever was, um, a time where racism in America was a trope, it wasn't real, right?

01:04:06.640 It was like, you're, we went through this period of time not long ago where we were so overusing

01:04:11.240 a word that it diluted the actual cases of like real vicious racism, right?

01:04:17.240 Tower gang, tower gang at, uh, tonight, 9-11, because you're into that.

01:04:21.920 But now, uh, it's, it's just gotten to the point where that word means nothing anymore.

01:04:26.720 And we're still beating white dudes over the head with it.

01:04:30.120 And now here comes this guy who, can I paraphrase, seems to be more or less saying, uh, the reason

01:04:35.100 we are winning is because you are not good.

01:04:38.420 That's what it seems like.

01:04:39.560 Yeah.

01:04:40.100 Look, I, I understand why that would be offensive, but that has been the conservative argument

01:04:48.000 for years that, that basically academia is churning out subpar midwits that think that

01:04:56.280 they're fucking awesome and they're useless.

01:04:58.300 And let me tell you, as someone who used to run a company, that's true.

01:05:02.140 The vast majority of young people are fucking terrible.

01:05:05.040 They're idiots.

01:05:05.380 It's funny because academia is also pumping out that forementioned culture that we just

01:05:08.920 described.

01:05:09.660 That was the epicenter of it.

01:05:11.120 But, but there is merit to his argument.

01:05:13.440 I think the reason that people are rejecting it is because he is Indian American.

01:05:17.060 Yes.

01:05:18.040 And, and he is just a bad messenger for that particular message.

01:05:21.360 Yes.

01:05:21.580 But it is true.

01:05:22.460 And every conservative has said this forever is that you, you have all of these people

01:05:26.680 that now rule over us, these fucking midwit class that comes out and enters HR and enters

01:05:31.500 the government, but they come out of Ivy League school.

01:05:33.320 So they think that they're fucking brilliant, but they have been poisoned.

01:05:36.380 Their minds are poisoned and they are not capable of actually contributing to a functioning,

01:05:41.260 growing civilization.

01:05:42.560 In fact, they are destructive.

01:05:43.800 They're in their, in their core.

01:05:45.560 They have imbibed of Marxist ideology and critical theory.

01:05:48.420 And they're now fucking a danger to the rest of us.

01:05:51.240 So this is why I actually oppose Donald Trump's position, which is funny because the, the people

01:05:55.940 that are most upset with Vague also are just usually lionized and, and, and, you know, love

01:06:01.800 Donald Trump.

01:06:03.060 He came out six months ago and said, he wants to staple a green card to every, you know, college

01:06:09.680 degree for any immigrant that comes here and gets that education.

01:06:13.260 And I'm just like, fuck that.

01:06:14.820 I want to deport the people that go to Harvard.

01:06:17.480 Uh, and I'm not talking about immigrants.

01:06:18.860 I'm saying American born, they're probably the most dangerous people in this country.

01:06:22.960 So I just think that, that my, my concern is that the, the alt-right dissident, right,

01:06:29.180 Nick Fuentes circle, they, they are not focused enough on the underlying problems domestically

01:06:37.900 as much as they are the border.

01:06:39.520 Like they, they, and I, and I understand the concerns of the border and I'm not saying

01:06:43.220 that they're wrong to have them, especially when you have fucking 10 to 20 million people

01:06:46.720 come in in a single presidential term.

01:06:48.200 That's insane.

01:06:49.360 Um, but they do not harp nearly enough on the fact that domestic born Americans, including

01:06:56.640 white people are crazy people and they can't possibly excel and they can't contribute, contribute

01:07:02.540 to the civilization because they have been brought up through public school and then put through

01:07:07.620 academia, which is controlled by Marxists and they fucking come out on the other end useless.

01:07:12.120 Well, thank God.

01:07:12.660 No one talks about that.

01:07:13.400 Thank God.

01:07:13.720 They're only taking minorities in these higher positions now because they'll, they'll start

01:07:16.940 coming out retarded, but it gives me a little bit of hope.

01:07:20.160 And it's, it's like a weird racist hope, right?

01:07:22.260 Because I think Ann Coulter said it about Vivek Ramaswamy.

01:07:25.300 She's like, you'll never be president.

01:07:26.440 She told him to his face.

01:07:27.340 He's like, she said, I would not vote for you because you're Indian.

01:07:30.140 And she's right.

01:07:30.880 And she's, and she's a hundred percent right now.

01:07:32.500 The guy's a smooth talker.

01:07:33.780 He has great hair.

01:07:34.860 We're like real high up, but real nice hair.

01:07:36.520 I mean, he's got it all, but the fact is, is like, you have this different look.

01:07:40.380 So Donald Trump comes and says basically the same thing that you're saying, but I don't

01:07:44.320 want to hear from, and I don't want to hear it from Vivek Ramaswamy either.

01:07:47.600 Change your name to something more English and maybe it would go over.

01:07:50.420 It's just true.

01:07:51.580 But aren't you glad that David, wait, if his name was Vic Johnson, I think you'd probably

01:07:56.520 be cool.

01:07:57.060 And aren't you glad that's, but that's a survival instinct.

01:08:00.300 Whatever survival instinct that was beat out of us in the last 10 years, there's still some

01:08:04.680 left.

01:08:04.980 So when I see these people, even though they're like far on the right and they are annoying,

01:08:08.360 they're groipers.

01:08:09.140 A lot of these like white supremacists, I'm like, thank God.

01:08:13.160 Because somebody's holding the line.

01:08:14.440 Yeah.

01:08:14.460 Some hold the line.

01:08:15.280 Like you guys go a little too far, but like before we were, we were doing the opposite

01:08:19.800 and just giving up.

01:08:20.840 And I'm not white.

01:08:21.400 I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I am American.

01:08:23.240 And I think that in the end, that, that majority that is America is kind of like what it's

01:08:28.860 supposed to be.

01:08:29.420 That's why.

01:08:29.900 This, this is the point that Myron Gaines, uh, fresh and fit was, he makes regularly,

01:08:34.320 but he was also making on the spaces I was on last night.

01:08:36.260 Another spaces I was on.

01:08:37.420 I don't know what I'm doing with my life.

01:08:38.580 Spaces, spaces, spaces.

01:08:39.740 But, but, but, you know, he's, uh, I don't remember which nation he, his, uh, relatives

01:08:44.740 come from, but FBI, I think his dad of fed, I don't, I don't know, but he's, uh, you know,

01:08:52.360 black American, whatever.

01:08:53.460 Um, but he's saying basically like, I need white people to keep this country together.

01:08:58.000 Like y'all are the majority and I want, like, I love America because of that.

01:09:01.400 And I want to keep it that way.

01:09:02.440 That's his argument.

01:09:03.480 Like, and I think he's sincere.

01:09:05.320 Um, I just wanted to point out real quick that like, I think that the.

01:09:09.740 The, the griper thing, the white nationalist thing is all a natural consequence of, it's

01:09:18.720 a, it's a total reaction to the system as it has existed for the past 20 years.

01:09:22.860 Yes.

01:09:23.480 So I, I, what bothers me is that everyone's so mad at Fuentes.

01:09:29.500 It's kind of like being mad at Trump.

01:09:31.020 Now that I think about it, it's like Trump is a, is a natural solution.

01:09:34.780 He's a symptom.

01:09:35.700 He's not a disease.

01:09:36.540 There you go.

01:09:37.280 You made him.

01:09:37.740 The point is, is not the disease.

01:09:39.060 He's a symptom of it.

01:09:40.000 Do you not understand this?

01:09:41.140 It's that you shamed young white men for decades.

01:09:45.020 I wouldn't be here.

01:09:46.280 Like I.

01:09:46.720 He's a symptom, but with more conviction.

01:09:48.640 You've created.

01:09:49.660 Yeah.

01:09:49.780 No, in a very small sense, but I wouldn't be doing this and neither would you Clint.

01:09:53.860 The culture created this.

01:09:55.060 This is your fault.

01:09:55.780 If you don't like it.

01:09:56.720 Sorry.

01:09:57.200 No, that's it.

01:09:57.640 That's a great point.

01:09:58.360 I wouldn't, I wouldn't be a political commentator if you didn't lock down the fucking country.

01:10:01.860 You idiots.

01:10:03.080 You've created me.

01:10:04.220 Don't blame me.

01:10:04.480 There's something strange about this.

01:10:06.140 And when I see something strange, I get a weird vibe.

01:10:08.160 I have to put on the conspiracy hat.

01:10:09.500 It's the only thing that I could do in these instances.

01:10:11.340 And when I look back at the way that Twitter has moved this cultural conversation, to me,

01:10:16.820 it has this thing that doesn't quite feel organic.

01:10:19.580 And we've already explored this idea of whether or not Elon Musk is kind of putting his finger

01:10:23.360 on the scale one way or another.

01:10:24.860 I can't imagine he's not.

01:10:26.580 It would be.

01:10:27.300 Why wouldn't you?

01:10:27.880 So it wasn't long ago that Twitter was on fire because of India.

01:10:33.940 It wasn't long ago that that account Barry was going hyper viral daily to the point where

01:10:39.760 he got his account removed.

01:10:40.800 And all of a sudden, Indians started working together and creating discord groups where

01:10:45.480 they were trying to take down accounts.

01:10:47.160 They were taking down Leonardo Joni's account.

01:10:49.500 It was one of the most viral things that gripped Twitter for about a week.

01:10:53.140 And now look where this conversation is gone.

01:10:55.160 I'm sorry, dude.

01:10:55.940 And that doesn't feel, and I'm not saying I have an answer for that.

01:10:58.640 That does not feel organic.

01:11:00.320 Look what we just went through with Barry and the virality of that.

01:11:03.260 It feels like, so yeah, like now that you're, that's very conspiracy and very meta, but it's

01:11:07.360 like, we've created this emotion and also just the videos.

01:11:11.300 I mean, I shared the videos like, put your hand in my food, go ahead, put your hand in

01:11:15.160 my food, put your, they'd be doing this.

01:11:17.040 It's crazy.

01:11:17.680 Black Twitter, black Twitter found out about India.

01:11:20.320 And I have been having such a good time watching black people make fun of street food in India.

01:11:25.720 David, this is a decades old battle.

01:11:28.360 This goes back.

01:11:29.160 I mean, it's every couple of years.

01:11:30.940 Yeah.

01:11:31.080 Black people fight the Indians.

01:11:31.960 I just discovered it recently.

01:11:32.940 It's so funny.

01:11:33.760 Oh dude, two years ago, there was, you know, it smells crazy in there.

01:11:37.140 And it was like, it was a gang war between India and African-Americans.

01:11:41.300 It was fucking awesome.

01:11:42.720 But so anyway.

01:11:43.480 I look at that and I don't feel like that's organic.

01:11:45.380 The culture has created this or pushed this in some sort of way.

01:11:48.140 And it's, I mean, it's hilarious.

01:11:49.520 It's got all the viral potentiality and it was allowed to go viral and it is allowed

01:11:53.340 to stay up there.

01:11:54.300 Now we have been presented this argument almost.

01:11:57.220 It makes me feel like, like a double switch.

01:11:59.620 Like they want us to choose the America first kind of argument.

01:12:03.780 The response from Elon, I don't get it.

01:12:06.160 I think the response from Elon might not, I don't think it's more about people disagreeing

01:12:10.340 with him.

01:12:10.640 I think it's about the way that they did.

01:12:12.560 I don't think he's ever been through this.

01:12:13.940 And there is a sort of mental stress that you get when you're on Twitter, especially

01:12:17.880 if you're addicted to it.

01:12:18.980 And then you get dogpiled like, and you're, and you're wrong.

01:12:22.140 It sucks.

01:12:22.760 It sucks.

01:12:23.480 No, it sucks.

01:12:24.340 I, oh, I've never been wrong, but I have been dogpiled.

01:12:26.440 Me too.

01:12:26.940 Never been wrong, but I've been dogpiled and I don't like it.

01:12:29.900 It's like, I put the phone down and I'll walk away for the rest of the day.

01:12:32.880 Cause like, I'm like, this is, I know how it works.

01:12:34.640 It'll blow over, but it's just like, I can't look at it right now because it's like, it's

01:12:38.420 literal mental anguish.

01:12:40.100 Oh yeah.

01:12:40.420 And if you engage with it, which Elon was and did, uh, it is, it is backbreaking, especially

01:12:46.020 if you're used to being really beloved, which Elon by and large on X is.

01:12:51.220 And also Vivek is too.

01:12:53.620 This is really the first time that Vivek has had any pushback or significant pushback, uh,

01:12:58.700 in the broader.

01:12:59.280 I mean, there's fringe pushback, obviously, but I was, I was amazed by it.

01:13:02.520 Here, let me, let me just keep, uh, wrap up this tweet from him.

01:13:06.180 Cause I want people to understand the full story.

01:13:08.520 So he says, fact, uh, oh, uh, fact.

01:13:13.120 I know multiple sets of immigrant parents in the nineties who actively limited how much

01:13:16.480 their kids could watch those TV shows precisely because they promoted mediocrity and their

01:13:20.920 kids went on to become wildly successful STEM graduates.

01:13:24.180 Uh, this is where it gets, I mean, it's, it's already kind of off the rails with these nineties

01:13:28.780 references, but this is where I lost it.

01:13:30.660 He says more movies like whiplash, fewer reruns of friends.

01:13:34.120 Well, one, uh, yeah, friends.

01:13:36.220 I do agree with that.

01:13:37.080 I agree with that, but have you guys seen whiplash?

01:13:40.380 I loved it.

01:13:41.160 I thought it was tremendous.

01:13:42.360 It's a great movie.

01:13:43.400 It's a great movie, but, but just keep in mind what it is.

01:13:45.380 It's a guy who's pathologically obsessed with learning how to drum.

01:13:48.780 If I, if I remember correctly, and he like, and he's like a car crash.

01:13:52.220 Look, I'm just saying, uh, what fucking year does this guy think it is?

01:13:57.020 I don't know.

01:13:57.780 It's just weird.

01:13:58.340 The references are strange.

01:13:59.620 What's going on?

01:14:00.340 He's talking about a better time.

01:14:02.020 Really?

01:14:03.000 It's like he maxed out all the information in that long cranium back in like 2016.

01:14:07.720 And that was pretty much it for him.

01:14:09.840 There's no more room for anything else.

01:14:11.560 He said, he says more math to tutoring, fewer sleepovers.

01:14:15.000 Uh, he's definitely not living in this generation because as far as I can tell, I don't think

01:14:18.620 kids are doing sleepovers.

01:14:19.800 I don't think kids hang out with each other at all.

01:14:22.040 That's actually a big problem.

01:14:23.380 My, my kids, friends, parents are going to try and trans if he's not having sleepovers.

01:14:27.060 Yeah.

01:14:27.340 This is, this is what I'm saying.

01:14:28.240 Like, I don't think kids play outside.

01:14:29.640 I don't think they have sleepovers.

01:14:30.900 I think he's talking about like, I don't know.

01:14:33.000 This is not the generation we're talking about.

01:14:34.500 Anyways, he goes, uh, more weekend science competitions, fewer Saturday morning cartoons,

01:14:39.340 more books, less TV, more creating, less chilling, more extracurriculars, less hanging

01:14:44.960 out at the mall.

01:14:45.920 Can I, can I stop?

01:14:46.620 No one hangs out at the fucking mall.

01:14:48.520 But I want to, I want to, let me interject for a second here.

01:14:50.980 This was the worst possible game plan from a dude who is wildly intellectual and seemingly

01:14:56.420 has his finger on the cultural pulse to then attack nostalgia as if that was going to work

01:15:02.580 out is an insane move.

01:15:04.300 I don't think he's basically describing stranger things and saying stranger things sucked.

01:15:08.780 He's like, no stranger things, stranger things for kids was awesome.

01:15:12.160 You should reply.

01:15:12.880 You should reply to me like stranger things was a great series.

01:15:17.140 This feels weird though.

01:15:18.320 But to me, it just feels like a really, a wild miscalculation.

01:15:22.060 One that even I wouldn't make.

01:15:23.760 It's like, I would never think that it would be a good idea to attack the things that are

01:15:26.900 beloved and nostalgic to a people.

01:15:29.720 But, but you're right.

01:15:31.420 And, and obviously like he's lost some, he expended political capital with that message

01:15:36.380 and he lost some support.

01:15:37.760 There is a lot of people that now really don't like Vivek.

01:15:40.860 I'm not one of them.

01:15:41.740 I still think at the core of it, the argument he's making is valid that if you want America

01:15:46.300 to win the next century, you're going to need to continue the practices that brought

01:15:50.580 in the best of the brightest that the world has to offer in order to do so.

01:15:54.240 That does not mean that I want to continue with H1Bs.

01:15:58.560 I think the O1s are awesome because they are truly hard to get.

01:16:02.900 These are the Victor Wemenyamas, the fucking seven foot five freaks that come across and they

01:16:07.740 totally revolutionize the basketball game or the NBA that like, I want all of those

01:16:13.420 people to become Americans.

01:16:14.360 I think that's fucking fantastic.

01:16:16.020 The, the H1Bs seem to be a kind of a convenient workaround for what amounts to indentured servitude

01:16:23.080 that, that these, these like middling Indian dudes or Chinese people, they get a job with

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01:18:03.000 You're deported.

01:18:03.860 So these people, they work endless hours, they get paid dog shit and that's like, it's

01:18:08.460 just a...

01:18:09.060 And you can't risk getting fired at all.

01:18:10.220 And you can't risk getting fired or else you get ejected back into your third world country

01:18:13.780 and you're like, I don't want that to happen.

01:18:15.440 So I'm going to do, yes, boss, I'll work fucking 20 hours a week.

01:18:18.980 I'll sleep on my lunch.

01:18:20.460 Get these motherfuckers out of here.

01:18:21.960 Get them out of here.

01:18:22.860 Like again, I agree.

01:18:23.740 I agree with what you're saying.

01:18:24.500 I agree with what he's saying.

01:18:25.560 I think he's saying it with a brown face.

01:18:27.300 So that's why it doesn't go over and I don't like it.

01:18:29.540 But yeah, no, get these guys.

01:18:30.720 If they're middle of the middle of the tier people, like get the fuck out of here.

01:18:33.940 If you're, if you're elite.

01:18:35.160 Yeah.

01:18:35.500 I understand making an exception for you and the white people saying like, no, no is no.

01:18:40.400 I'll say no is no.

01:18:41.560 But then yeah, obviously we're, if we're presented with a star player, you're like, but come

01:18:45.260 on.

01:18:45.760 Like we'll change the rules a little bit, but these guys not want Victor, Victor Wembenyama

01:18:49.760 to be an American, this French freak.

01:18:52.160 Yes, of course you do.

01:18:53.220 You got to give, you got to give the American kids a shot, like to do these menial jobs.

01:18:57.900 They're just basically like button pushers.

01:18:59.700 You know, that's what these people are doing.

01:19:01.000 They're showing up for, for work and button pushing and they're not telling you the special.

01:19:04.720 The biggest, the biggest problem in this, uh, I've, I've made this argument before

01:19:08.780 to open borders libertarians and they will not hear me on it, but I'm absolutely fucking

01:19:12.620 right illegal immigration destroyed entry-level jobs for, for American born kids.

01:19:19.620 Yeah.

01:19:19.980 It destroyed it.

01:19:20.920 You do not see fucking any P like everybody I knew in high school, everybody worked fast

01:19:27.220 food.

01:19:27.760 We worked the grocery stores.

01:19:29.340 We were getting the cars, gas station.

01:19:31.700 All of us did this generation.

01:19:34.440 Almost none of them do.

01:19:36.120 Right.

01:19:36.160 And it's like, you don't think that's a fucking problem.

01:19:38.340 You don't think that that work ethic that you formulate when you're a young adult that

01:19:42.440 carries on, that, that teaches you not just work ethic, but also jobs you don't want to

01:19:46.660 have.

01:19:46.980 So you can kind of reorient as you're going to college and be like, Hey, do I want to

01:19:50.940 fucking work with my mind or do I want to, you know, hammer shit for the rest of my life?

01:19:55.000 I don't know what, like, if you don't have, if you don't have that first step on the

01:19:58.140 ladder, you are fucking dooming these kids.

01:20:00.680 And that's exactly what we've done for the past 20 years as we've allowed for increasing

01:20:04.800 illegal immigration year after year.

01:20:06.860 And I, and as people aren't from California and they haven't seen it, but I'm telling

01:20:11.000 you, it has completely absorbed 90% of entry-level jobs in these, in these states that are especially

01:20:17.800 border states.

01:20:18.460 It's a, it's a tragedy for a guy with, with the, with a brown face and a red dot.

01:20:22.720 So then look and say, it's because boy meets world is insulting.

01:20:26.140 It's like, well, it's from, no, it's from years of this policy.

01:20:28.520 Yeah, sure.

01:20:28.920 The culture does contribute to this in some sort of way, but that's like the sprinkling on

01:20:33.060 the cake, man.

01:20:33.620 I think to, to Dave's point, it's like, if he had, if he had really emphasized, which

01:20:40.280 I think he should have, was that the, the ladder has been pulled up for a huge percentage

01:20:46.320 of young white men in this country.

01:20:49.880 And they happen to be the majority, or at least the, you know, plurality demographic is

01:20:54.180 still young white men in America.

01:20:55.500 And you've just said, fuck you, you're, you're racist and you're the problem.

01:21:01.180 And you're basically the bane of our existence as a country.

01:21:03.880 And then, and then, oh, you don't get married.

01:21:06.140 You don't have kids.

01:21:06.840 Oh, you don't make as much money as your father did, or your parents did.

01:21:10.400 You're, you're such a failure in every regard.

01:21:13.380 And, but here's the reality.

01:21:14.840 The ladder was pulled up because of DEI policies and affirmative action policies that made college

01:21:21.200 admittance more challenging that made getting into corporate America more challenging.

01:21:24.500 And it's like, you put road stops in front of them every step of their lives.

01:21:29.400 And then you go, why aren't you as good as your parents?

01:21:32.560 And they, and they have to look in the mirror and say, if they're not, you know, if they

01:21:35.680 don't understand how the system's been manipulated, many of them say, I don't know why, why am

01:21:40.540 I not doing as well as my dad did?

01:21:42.760 And that hurts.

01:21:44.000 That hurts any young man that wants to achieve what their, their parents did before them.

01:21:48.240 And it's like, you think that they're going to just eat that?

01:21:52.640 Like, sure.

01:21:53.180 Some of them eat it and they become suicidal or others go the other direction.

01:21:56.860 They go, fuck you.

01:21:57.760 Yeah.

01:21:58.240 And they figure out, you know, all of the shenanigans that have been played to actually

01:22:01.720 hurt them and put them at a deficit.

01:22:04.940 And then they become gripers.

01:22:06.360 And it's like, this is my point is that if you don't actually just be honest about this

01:22:11.320 stuff, if you don't stop the shame game of, oh, I can't believe that you're this white

01:22:15.680 nationalist shit.

01:22:16.480 It's like, if you don't actually deal with what created this phenomenon, well, it's only

01:22:21.500 going to grow.

01:22:22.960 And that, and that feeds directly into the system that the state is actually trying to

01:22:26.900 work against, which is bigger three-letter agencies, bigger spying, bigger, you know,

01:22:31.980 gun crackdowns, speech crackdowns, censorship.

01:22:34.820 It's like, you don't want any of that, right?

01:22:37.200 I don't.

01:22:38.000 So how about we deal with the underlying problems that is creating the issue that is allowing

01:22:41.560 for the state to, to metastasize?

01:22:43.900 Sorry, I'll get off my.

01:22:44.540 Well, instead, now we're in this, in this place where the, sort of the stage has been

01:22:49.380 set.

01:22:50.240 There was kindling.

01:22:51.200 And now we've got a full blown fire.

01:22:53.200 And that kindling was like all of this resentment of a racial variety, right?

01:22:58.480 For all the reasons that you just mentioned, that was sort of boiling up underneath the

01:23:02.220 American cultural surface.

01:23:03.960 And now I feel like we're in this place where, you know, I know I keep alluding to it and

01:23:09.840 you have to forgive me.

01:23:11.060 It's, there's something wrong with me, but I go, it, it looks to me as though this really

01:23:16.760 promising kindling was effectively set aflame by these little cultural moments along the

01:23:22.900 way.

01:23:23.080 And where we are now, it feels like this whole India conversation, like India just, you know,

01:23:27.680 got a nail in the coffin because we were already in this place.

01:23:30.180 For those of you who are on Twitter, where I guess you could say the noticing was like

01:23:35.700 at this all time high.

01:23:36.980 And, and over the past year, I've really gotten this, this sensation that so much of the big

01:23:43.480 cultural movement, uh, moments, especially the ones of the racial variety are, are, they're

01:23:50.040 organic in the sense that they've been growing.

01:23:52.620 The sentiments have been growing and developing for, for some time, but the moments that have

01:23:57.820 taken off don't feel organic to me.

01:23:59.780 They feel like somebody taking advantage of this kindling having existed previously.

01:24:04.160 And so I, I look at this as, I don't think it's a joke, man.

01:24:07.500 I'm not screwing around when I say this big Barry conversation and where it was going only

01:24:12.160 two months ago, something like that.

01:24:15.120 It was, it was gripping Twitter.

01:24:17.280 It was like you would wake up and you would go, oh no, what did India do?

01:24:20.940 And the, we've seen the way memes and virality affect the culture.

01:24:27.600 And we need to be looking at Twitter X as much fun as we're having there very skeptically,

01:24:33.480 because I think it is manufacturing high level cultural moments.

01:24:37.420 It's adding the straw to the camel's back.

01:24:40.480 If you will, that's all that it has to do.

01:24:43.540 Well, and, and I'm, I'm just trying to, I guess, identify the existing straw that's on

01:24:49.480 the camel's back already and being like, I'm not interested in having this camel collapse.

01:24:54.140 And it's like, the camel is the country.

01:24:55.560 Sorry.

01:24:55.900 I'm playing off this analogy way too much.

01:24:58.140 Uh, but the camel is the country.

01:24:59.460 Yeah.

01:24:59.800 Yeah.

01:25:00.100 And if these Indians keep coming here, it's going to become camel country.

01:25:03.020 No, I'm sorry.

01:25:03.400 I'm just, they don't even have camels.

01:25:06.000 You fucking racist.

01:25:06.800 Wrong place.

01:25:07.400 Wrong place.

01:25:07.960 But anyways, I think this is like, I'm genuinely concerned.

01:25:11.880 And I think that's that at the end of the day, that's really why I do these Twitter spaces

01:25:16.360 is to understand the pulse a little bit better because like, I don't have this worldview.

01:25:21.860 I am not a white nationalist.

01:25:23.580 I like, I'm not.

01:25:24.860 Um, but I really do understand the phenomenon.

01:25:28.220 Like when you have black people that basically sound like white nationalists from the 1980s,

01:25:33.580 like Myron Gaines does, he sounds like, he sounds like, uh, uh, David Duke or some shit.

01:25:39.500 It's like, this is a, this is a phenomenon that is not, it's no longer racial either.

01:25:43.700 Like this is just a young American man thing.

01:25:47.160 Yep.

01:25:47.640 They, they are seeing that they are being replaced.

01:25:50.480 I know I can't say that, but that's, that's how they feel.

01:25:53.220 And, uh, if you don't fucking, if you don't deal with their concerns, young men are the

01:25:59.300 most dangerous people in any culture, anytime all over the world.

01:26:05.800 That's just fucking reality.

01:26:07.120 And if you're going to abandon them and shame them and disenfranchise them and then,

01:26:12.360 and then tell them that their childhood is the reason for why they suck today, everything

01:26:17.800 that they love from their childhood, huge mistake by Vivek.

01:26:20.560 I don't think he meant it that way.

01:26:21.940 Again, he's right in his message.

01:26:23.060 Just like, you got to know when you can say it.

01:26:25.760 I know what I can say and what I can't say and what people will be mad at because of how

01:26:29.680 I'm representing myself.

01:26:31.000 That's kind of tone deaf for somebody who should know a little bit better, but yeah.

01:26:34.780 To the Myron Gaines thing, these, and this is a, like a Pete Quinones thing.

01:26:39.480 I had, but Merry Christmas.

01:26:40.640 Uh, this has been like three years since he docks you.

01:26:42.960 Um, but he said, he said one thing and I'll never forget.

01:26:47.300 He's like, uh, the empire is collapsing.

01:26:49.020 Start building what you want to see in its stead.

01:26:50.900 And the guy like my, a guy like Myron Gaines and, uh, um, Andrew Tate, we talk about this

01:26:56.860 a lot, this red pill movement, they're building this thing.

01:26:59.480 They've, they've successfully seen what's wrong with men.

01:27:03.260 They position themselves in a way to say, follow me young, young disassociated men or disaffected

01:27:08.580 men.

01:27:08.840 And we're going to move in this direction and the direction they're going, young men, you

01:27:12.520 don't want to go in that direction.

01:27:14.020 It's a huge problem because it is, it's a, it's a power vacuum that's been created.

01:27:18.440 Um, and something needed to fill that way, something needed to step in its place.

01:27:23.620 And I think the most, uh, damaging thing stepped in its place.

01:27:27.140 It's this idea that men need to be with a Hiram of women.

01:27:31.540 Men need to be driving Bugattis.

01:27:34.220 They need to be shirtless at a long table, eating dinner nightly with a bunch of other

01:27:38.640 shirtless men smoking cigars.

01:27:40.720 Um, that's all, all wrong.

01:27:43.160 It's all wrong.

01:27:43.840 Can we just roll back to take responsibility?

01:27:47.220 Try to make your community better.

01:27:49.520 Try to better yourself.

01:27:50.780 Find someone, love someone, raise a child, raise a family, contribute to society, you

01:27:57.040 know, maybe, um, strengthen your relationship with God.

01:28:00.340 If you believe you are, have a creator.

01:28:01.960 I mean, this is, this is why, this is why I love this.

01:28:04.860 Uh, I don't know this, just being able to analyze this stuff and kind of, uh, because

01:28:10.840 I have a large account.

01:28:12.900 Whenever I go into these spaces, I'm always brought up to speak whichever space I'm in.

01:28:17.040 I always get to talk and that's fucking fantastic because, you know, when you have a smaller

01:28:20.960 account, it's much harder to get the mic.

01:28:22.440 Um, but because of that, I get to engage with these people.

01:28:24.700 I get to actually like, and, and, and just listen to, um, and it's like, it's so obvious

01:28:30.300 that this phenomenon is not going away and, you know, the state would love to just turn

01:28:37.200 them into terrorists and, and start to run predator drones all over the United States.

01:28:42.220 Like I shit you not like that's, I guarantee you, they're already talking about that.

01:28:46.840 So it's incumbent upon us, especially people that aren't white nationalists, which I'm not

01:28:52.180 saying you guys are, aren't, uh, I am not.

01:28:54.480 It's incumbent upon me to fucking actually have a say in this, in this environment to

01:29:00.520 try and guide these young people a little bit as to like, Hey, there's a lot of merit

01:29:06.240 to what the Myron Gaines and the Andrew Tate and the Tristan Tates of the world say, but

01:29:11.240 I think that their prescription may be off.

01:29:13.040 Here's why.

01:29:13.980 And it's like, if you want to actually help these, these young men and not, and not turn

01:29:18.640 them into the inverse where you have basically a black Panther movement, well, now you have

01:29:22.300 these white Panther movement, like, do you want that?

01:29:24.860 Do you want to have this fucking militarized, like Patriot front?

01:29:27.920 Jake Shields just interviewed them.

01:29:29.560 Um, like, I don't want that, man.

01:29:31.480 I don't want to fucking live in a country that's identitarian and armed to the teeth.

01:29:34.800 Like that's how you get into really ugly civil wars.

01:29:37.580 This is what the other side did.

01:29:39.460 Like, like Michelle Obama did the same thing with, uh, you know, feminists in, uh, in the

01:29:44.040 last 10 years, she writes a book about being an independent woman, goes on Oprah talks about

01:29:48.200 this and all that, but it's like, you're married to the strongest man in the world, the

01:29:50.900 most powerful man in the world at the time.

01:29:52.420 And you're telling your constituents, don't get married.

01:29:55.180 Don't seek a relationship, you know, seek out your career, do this and that.

01:29:58.740 I was like, but you didn't do that.

01:30:00.440 You, you're doing the opposite.

01:30:01.980 And I think, you know, Andrew Tate might be very well doing the opposite as well.

01:30:05.020 And I don't know what they do in their personal lives.

01:30:06.740 He's like, uh, he's like the feminist movement for men, the ways in which the, the, the feminist

01:30:11.480 movement has failed women by telling them to focus on the wrong things as very similar.

01:30:15.580 It rhymes with the ways in which, uh, this red pill movement is telling young men what's

01:30:19.840 important again, though, symptom, not the disease.

01:30:22.240 No, no.

01:30:23.100 But what is disheartening is that we had a brief moment where that message was out there and

01:30:29.080 then something happened and you can speculate as to what that something was.

01:30:32.480 But Jordan Peterson was out there telling people to have families, to strengthen their relationship

01:30:39.140 with God, to raise children, good children.

01:30:42.320 And then his life was ruined.

01:30:43.280 And yeah.

01:30:44.840 And then he went to Russia on stuck on benzos, came back wearing a, you know, a two-tone

01:30:49.560 suit and then he stripped up his teaching credentials.

01:30:52.760 Yeah.

01:30:52.920 Go ahead.

01:30:53.100 Yep.

01:30:53.360 And, and, and, and to me, the question becomes, is that organic or is there some other force

01:30:59.660 steering culture?

01:31:01.020 Because you look at the ones that are elevated and you look at the ones who had all that potential.

01:31:05.880 I have those two books, you know, 12 rules for life and 12 additional rules, antidote

01:31:10.300 to chaos.

01:31:10.740 Um, they were tremendous.

01:31:12.220 I took a lot of pointers on how to raise my son from Jordan Peterson.

01:31:16.140 And now I look at that guy as a joke.

01:31:19.140 And it, to me, it's not lost on me that, um, somebody would have benefited from that.

01:31:24.720 Somebody who didn't want to see that culture come to rise because that culture is the antidote

01:31:30.080 for chaos.

01:31:30.720 That is the remedy to fixing the holes in the cultural fabric, to bringing cohesion to a United

01:31:37.120 States.

01:31:37.460 Once again, that book, if everyone were to implement some aspects of that into their own

01:31:42.400 lives would fix a lot of the issues that we have.

01:31:45.260 And now that guy doesn't exist.

01:31:46.980 Yeah.

01:31:47.080 What I find fascinating about Jordan is that he, he understands the, you know, scripture

01:31:53.720 and the allegories.

01:31:55.680 Uh, well, I don't know if you guys consider them allegories.

01:31:57.540 I do, but I think there is allegory within it.

01:31:59.780 Yes.

01:32:00.200 Okay.

01:32:00.400 There's also, it's, it's multi-leveled.

01:32:02.400 Sure.

01:32:02.900 Uh, but he, he understands he's so, so in depth and he's, he's explained them in such

01:32:08.000 eloquent way.

01:32:08.960 Yeah.

01:32:09.360 And he's done these, these deep dives with, uh, I think it's Jonathan Pago or whatever.

01:32:13.740 Um, and yet he still isn't Christian or at least he doesn't espouse it fully.

01:32:19.560 He doesn't believe in God.

01:32:20.340 But I just, I just find that like, I can't imagine dedicating so many years of my life

01:32:26.080 to that, to understanding that and then not coming away a believer.

01:32:31.020 I think that's fascinating.

01:32:31.900 What do you guys think of that?

01:32:32.640 I was in that camp for a while because I wasn't always Christian and I was exposed to Jordan

01:32:38.760 Peterson's work before I came to, you know, epiphanies and realizations and, and changed

01:32:44.020 my, my aim.

01:32:45.620 Um, and I was very much on board with that.

01:32:47.520 It was only like later on that I realized like, no, there is truly spiritual aspects

01:32:51.380 that are very real, um, that are surrounding us at all times.

01:32:55.060 And he's missing that element.

01:32:56.340 Now I can only speculate as to whether or not you have this character who is steering the

01:33:01.780 culture and then gets this one very important detail drastically wrong and the damage that

01:33:06.920 that does in the, in the long run to a people.

01:33:09.440 But I think it's probably a little bit easier to look at Jordan Peterson like a boxing coach

01:33:14.620 who is a phenomenal teacher, but cannot box himself.

01:33:18.320 Very many cases.

01:33:19.380 Ah, interesting.

01:33:20.560 That's a great, that's a great comparison.

01:33:22.260 He's, uh, he's Freddie Roach, even though Freddie Roach was a boxer.

01:33:25.740 Freddie Roach will fuck you up, but a lot of other guys now.

01:33:27.760 Right, but he's training like Manny Pacquiao and everything.

01:33:30.100 And he's training like the best of the best on the planet when he himself is not quite

01:33:33.820 that.

01:33:34.260 You know what's interesting too?

01:33:35.560 When you go through benzo withdrawals, you get the shakes just like Freddie Roach.

01:33:38.360 Sorry, this, this, this is a, that's the type of fucking, uh, comparison that very few

01:33:46.320 people could make because I'm a huge, huge boxing fan and a huge like political comment

01:33:51.300 to your fans.

01:33:51.720 But that's my, like, all right, look, there is a lot of strange stuff, right?

01:33:54.680 If you want to get into the conspiracies, people think that it's actually like Sasha Baron

01:33:57.700 Cohen is now, you know, whatever the case may be is, is Jordan Peterson.

01:34:01.400 I think it's funny.

01:34:02.160 And I've seen, you know, images that I go, well, that's something to that.

01:34:04.620 But the fact of the matter is he went away for a period.

01:34:08.440 He came back a dramatically different man.

01:34:10.820 Something happened to Jordan Peterson that we're not privy to.

01:34:14.100 And something made him pivot in a direction that forever tanked his reputation.

01:34:19.640 And by the way, it's so much more than a reputation because at the time he was, and I don't like

01:34:24.960 to do this to human beings.

01:34:26.240 I really don't.

01:34:27.020 But he was like a beacon of hope for young men in America.

01:34:29.700 He was exactly what we, we do not need.

01:34:32.380 Exactly what we need.

01:34:32.900 We do not need the Tate brothers.

01:34:34.840 We do not need Myron Gaines.

01:34:36.580 We need who Jordan Peterson was.

01:34:40.460 I got to, I got to say this though.

01:34:41.560 I have to interject because I agree with you.

01:34:44.000 I think Jordan Peterson represents a, a, a much better message to young men, particularly

01:34:48.320 when it comes to the fact that he's been married for decades and decades and has a loving

01:34:52.100 family.

01:34:52.500 And yeah, like no doubt he's a better role model.

01:34:55.300 Did his daughter bang Myron Gaines?

01:34:57.520 Andrew Tate.

01:34:57.960 What are the Tates?

01:34:58.620 Andrew Tate, allegedly.

01:34:59.660 I have no idea.

01:35:00.240 The worst possible.

01:35:00.940 I don't like that.

01:35:01.600 That's the worst criticism of Jordan Peterson, his daughter.

01:35:04.380 Listen, it is what it is.

01:35:06.320 Your kids are going to do whatever they're going to do.

01:35:07.940 Here's the point I was going to make though.

01:35:09.920 It's not, if you believe that it's an op to destroy Jordan, Jordan Peterson, you have

01:35:14.180 to recognize that this is not just against Christianity.

01:35:17.060 This is not just against a positive role model.

01:35:19.440 This is about dispiriting young men entirely because Andrew Tate does not represent a Christian,

01:35:26.000 you know, get married, settle down, have kids role model.

01:35:29.580 Yeah.

01:35:29.940 He's Muslim too now, but they still destroyed him too.

01:35:34.220 So what I take away from that is, well, I mean, it looks like Jordan Peterson was effectively

01:35:40.580 destroyed.

01:35:40.780 He's a year in jail.

01:35:42.520 Yeah.

01:35:42.800 You don't think-

01:35:43.340 But he's crushing it right now.

01:35:44.500 Didn't you see him doing lat lifts on Christmas alone?

01:35:46.880 He's out doing the same thing.

01:35:48.400 He's out doing the same thing he was doing before though.

01:35:50.620 Like Jordan Peterson is very much not.

01:35:52.800 Now he's-

01:35:53.340 Yeah.

01:35:53.900 He's working for the Daily Wire.

01:35:55.560 He's a shell of what he was before.

01:35:57.660 And it's like, yeah, again, if we're going to talk about Christianity being subverted,

01:36:00.500 it's like, well now, you know, who's the majority of white men that he's reaching

01:36:04.440 in America?

01:36:05.200 It would have been young.

01:36:05.900 Go ahead.

01:36:06.840 But see, this is why I respect Andrew Tate more than I do Jordan Peterson.

01:36:10.980 That's going to upset a lot of people.

01:36:12.060 I don't give a fuck because it's true.

01:36:14.120 Andrew Tate spent months and months and months in prison and he doesn't fucking stop.

01:36:18.780 He doesn't relent.

01:36:19.840 He doesn't really even change his message.

01:36:21.660 In fact, he fucking kind of goes harder.

01:36:23.720 That is not Jordan Peterson.

01:36:25.220 Jordan Peterson doesn't have that in him.

01:36:26.840 He is not a fighter.

01:36:27.800 He said, you know, line up, get your jab, everything else.

01:36:30.160 He fucking caved.

01:36:30.980 Every time Kavanaugh hearings, he's like, step down.

01:36:34.420 Trump, he's like, step down.

01:36:36.120 He doesn't have the backbone in the fire, like in the heat of battle.

01:36:41.680 Andrew Tate, for all of his fucking flaws, and there's plenty, he has that big time.

01:36:47.380 And I think that's what I like about Andrew Tate.

01:36:49.860 That's the message that I hope that young men take away from a person like Andrew Tate,

01:36:53.900 is that even if some of these hurdles that have been put in front of the Tate brothers

01:36:57.540 may have been of their own making, they still are fucking fighters to the death.

01:37:03.020 These two brothers sat in prison next to each other and said, we will sit here until we die.

01:37:08.260 We don't give a fuck.

01:37:09.240 And they talk about it all the time.

01:37:10.440 And I'm just like, that is awesome.

01:37:12.000 Like, I fucking love my brother.

01:37:13.440 I could totally see, like, if the fucking system was coming after me and my brother,

01:37:16.640 we'd just be like doing push-ups, doing push-ups, fucking smoking cigars.

01:37:20.480 Just, like, trying to bang the prison guard.

01:37:22.800 Like, that's exactly what I would do with my brother if we were locked up in prison.

01:37:26.520 So when I see that in them, it's inspirational.

01:37:28.940 That's the type of shit that, like, young men don't get that.

01:37:31.580 You certainly don't get that from Jordan Peterson.

01:37:33.540 So in that one arena, I like the Tate brothers better.

01:37:36.640 I do.

01:37:37.000 I would say that the only way out of that for Peterson is if you were to speculate,

01:37:42.500 and it's only speculation, that what he was exposed to was genuine and horrifying

01:37:47.340 and what the Tates went through was some sort of theater.

01:37:50.320 But that's conspiracy, conjecture, and speculation.

01:37:52.860 I don't think so.

01:37:54.360 If you take one guy and you put him up and you lionize him and you follow everything he does,

01:37:59.260 you're creating a God or Jesus type.

01:38:01.920 Don't do that with people.

01:38:02.860 People are people.

01:38:03.880 But Jordan Peterson was great at what he did.

01:38:06.400 His lane was perfect.

01:38:07.280 And that kind of attitude, that masculine energy that Andrew Tate does bring,

01:38:11.340 not like something like that.

01:38:12.660 He does a lot of weird stuff.

01:38:13.760 But that aspect of him, I would want my son to see that and be like,

01:38:17.260 do you see that shit?

01:38:18.180 Follow that.

01:38:18.880 But what he says about women, that's a bad idea.

01:38:21.220 Just depart from him there and follow someone else's advice.

01:38:23.760 That's like, can't we get, like, a buff, tan, shirtless Jordan Peterson?

01:38:28.140 So gay.

01:38:28.800 Instead, can't we get a Jordan Peterson that smokes cigars and doesn't wear a two-tone suit

01:38:33.940 and does drive a Bugatti?

01:38:35.820 Like, I do want that.

01:38:37.200 Or maybe not a Bugatti.

01:38:38.200 Something just like a really nice, classic Oldsmobile,

01:38:40.660 like a something, a 1980-something that's in really good condition.

01:38:43.800 And he's putting out that instead, right?

01:38:45.960 He's like, go back to nostalgia, you know,

01:38:49.200 instead of whatever the fuck we're going on with this.

01:38:51.280 I think this is actually good.

01:38:52.160 This is actually a good way to end it, too.

01:38:54.480 I think that your heroes are always flawed.

01:38:58.020 Like, they're going to be flawed.

01:38:59.060 So the important thing is to, like, that in itself is a lesson to young men,

01:39:04.680 is that you're going to have to pick and choose the best aspects of your role models.

01:39:09.960 Because, like, Kobe Bryant was awesome, and he was an unbelievable psychopath

01:39:15.200 when it came to training and practicing and shooting and everything else.

01:39:17.720 But he's also a bad teammate, okay?

01:39:20.240 Like, so do you want to be that guy in your life all the time?

01:39:24.040 Because you're going to fucking destroy some, you know,

01:39:26.320 familial bonds and friendships and shit like that.

01:39:28.660 But, like, do you want to have his work ethic when you need to?

01:39:31.560 Yes, you do.

01:39:32.760 So, and then Jordan Peterson.

01:39:34.160 Do you want to understand, you know, philosophy in a really deep level

01:39:37.920 and be able to apply it and still have strength but also be sensitive?

01:39:41.200 Yes.

01:39:41.580 Do you want to have the fucking animalistic fighter instincts that the Tate brothers represent?

01:39:46.900 Yes, take just a sprinkle from all of these people

01:39:50.400 and then formulate the best version of yourself.

01:39:52.960 And I think that's, that, I hope, is what young people will do.

01:39:56.260 And then also take the wit of Nick Fuentes while we're at it.

01:40:00.020 All right, anyways, I just want to upset people by saying anything.

01:40:02.940 No, I don't even think that's upsetting.

01:40:04.360 I think that was great.

01:40:05.460 Makes a lot of sense.

01:40:06.240 That's what you should be doing.

01:40:07.580 The problem comes is when they put people under a microscope

01:40:10.380 and you see it happen all the time.

01:40:11.760 And it's, you know, I'm guilty of it as well, but, like, they're just people.

01:40:15.000 And when you really look at them and you look at their characteristics

01:40:18.400 and whatever they're representing, it's like it doesn't add up to what you built in your head.

01:40:22.380 And young kids are going to do that.

01:40:24.500 But that's why, I think that's why the most important message is God and Jesus Christ.

01:40:28.360 Like, look up to that.

01:40:29.100 Don't look up to me.

01:40:29.760 Don't look up to all these other people.

01:40:31.460 Like, there is already an archetype that has been well-developed and there's a story.

01:40:35.220 If you want to follow that, like, the perfect person, it's there for you.

01:40:39.580 If not, you've got a bunch of shitty recreations of it that will eventually lead you astray

01:40:43.900 if you follow that to the logical conclusion of wherever they're bringing it.

01:40:48.120 They always will.

01:40:49.920 And I will, too.

01:40:50.920 So will Clint.

01:40:51.580 Like, you don't want to be like me.

01:40:53.200 We're going to do something wrong.

01:40:55.080 Just don't do that.

01:40:56.220 But before you end, Clint, I did want to say I wanted to apologize to fucking nobody.

01:41:03.120 That was absolutely nobody.

01:41:06.220 I'm not apologizing.

01:41:07.700 I mean, you took the bait.

01:41:09.180 And, yeah, it is what it is.

01:41:12.720 I hope you learned something.

01:41:13.400 For those that don't know, Top went to war with Tim Pool a couple days ago.

01:41:18.060 It wasn't war.

01:41:18.640 Was that on Christmas?

01:41:19.500 It was on Christmas, too.

01:41:20.400 Something happened on Christmas.

01:41:21.500 People lost their shit.

01:41:22.500 I ratioed Tim Pool on Christmas.

01:41:24.640 Can I ask you, before you go, Clint, you said that he was –

01:41:28.200 so I sort of believe what you're saying, that he was playing along as well,

01:41:31.860 which is a very stupid move to do, number one.

01:41:34.680 I think he was.

01:41:35.640 I think a little bit, but I felt like there was like –

01:41:37.560 I think he was, yeah.

01:41:38.580 I talked to him for a half an hour after all this went down.

01:41:41.300 I was having fun with him.

01:41:42.280 A lot of insight.

01:41:43.140 I was having fun.

01:41:44.640 The line with the infinity pool, I said, I don't want to be on the show,

01:41:47.960 but I've never been on an infinity pool.

01:41:48.940 Here's the thing, though.

01:41:49.940 If we would have been doing that to Tim IRL, like to his face,

01:41:53.500 I think he would have gotten red and got mad.

01:41:55.580 He doesn't seem like the dude that plays along,

01:41:58.000 but for him to answer me back, it made no sense to answer me back at all.

01:42:02.340 It just seemed uncharacteristic.

01:42:04.060 Yeah, but then not just answer me back once, five times, repeat.

01:42:08.240 It's like he cycled and he called us retarded a number of times.

01:42:11.260 He called us invalids.

01:42:12.140 It was very funny.

01:42:13.040 And everything we responded back, he threatened me.

01:42:15.180 I don't give a fuck what you say.

01:42:16.100 That was an odd backhanded threat.

01:42:18.620 I don't know what that meant.

01:42:19.240 Can I explain it?

01:42:20.560 Yeah, please.

01:42:21.000 Okay, so the point was, he had had you on his show,

01:42:26.100 and if you get invited on a show, and then you turn around and you blast somebody,

01:42:31.580 you're not going to get invited back.

01:42:32.900 That's natural, right?

01:42:34.520 And you know this.

01:42:35.540 I wouldn't...

01:42:37.200 There are some things that are more important than being invited back.

01:42:41.220 Principles, maybe?

01:42:42.160 No, of course.

01:42:43.440 And that's totally fine.

01:42:44.920 I'm not sure what principle Top was going after Tim for in this regard.

01:42:49.300 But anyways, he was just making the point that, like, are you going to do this?

01:42:54.180 And then when you don't get invited back on, use it as evidence that the Jews are controlling him.

01:42:58.980 Like, that's...

01:43:00.060 Yeah, I know.

01:43:00.580 I know you're going to.

01:43:01.680 But he's saying it's your actions.

01:43:03.740 And this is what I talked to him about.

01:43:05.280 He's saying, like, that's essentially what Candace Owens has done.

01:43:08.140 Like, her audience is still thriving, but she's lost all of her sponsors.

01:43:12.740 But because of, you know, because of that, she can now turn around and say,

01:43:16.720 see, everything I'm saying is true because I lost my sponsors because everything I'm saying is true.

01:43:20.920 And it's kind of the circular reasoning, whereas maybe not everything you're saying is true.

01:43:25.120 Maybe there are aspects of it that are true, but it's also not palatable for advertisers.

01:43:28.320 I don't know how long you're going to drag this episode out, but listen, it started because the Babylon Bee was once again being subvertive

01:43:35.640 and doing this weird wishy-washy thing where they're like, we're Christians, but fuck, we're the Virgin Mary.

01:43:41.760 And shit like this.

01:43:43.920 Tim kind of ran cover for them.

01:43:46.960 Well, he made a joke about Krampus, but yeah, go ahead.

01:43:49.240 Okay, but this is...

01:43:50.140 We know what it is.

01:43:51.040 Listen, it's also insulting.

01:43:52.200 It's insulting for like the people that do understand what you're doing.

01:43:56.520 And I understand you've got friends and you've got interests.

01:43:59.520 Fine, but I'm going to call you out on it when you do it.

01:44:02.980 Then he plays coy.

01:44:04.060 I just said, I said, hey, already on the Daily Wire payroll.

01:44:07.840 If you sell, I don't give a shit.

01:44:09.120 If you don't, whatever.

01:44:10.140 This is a joke.

01:44:11.220 He answers.

01:44:12.240 And what does Santa have?

01:44:13.040 Now you're playing stupid.

01:44:13.980 What does Santa have to do with Krampus or the Daily Wire?

01:44:16.020 Yeah, I know your audience is filled with retards, but I know what you're doing here.

01:44:20.800 And you've been doing it for a while and it's fine.

01:44:23.160 This is how you get paid.

01:44:24.480 Whatever.

01:44:25.540 And this also may be what you believe.

01:44:28.020 If this is what you believe, cool.

01:44:29.520 I don't know what Tim Pool believes.

01:44:30.680 At this point, I've stopped trying to figure it out.

01:44:32.620 So I just said, just keep running cover.

01:44:34.820 And then he goes, you're retarded.

01:44:36.380 And I go, you're the Michael Malice line.

01:44:39.060 He answers back again.

01:44:40.180 This is the threat.

01:44:41.460 Is the intention to destroy all opportunities for yourself so that when people start avoiding you,

01:44:45.940 you can blame the Jews.

01:44:47.960 All right.

01:44:48.240 I don't, all opportunities, what, by talking to you or by telling the truth as I see it?

01:44:54.560 Is that the opportunity?

01:44:55.520 Because you have nothing to offer me.

01:44:57.160 Like I went on your show.

01:44:58.720 Yeah.

01:44:58.900 I know.

01:44:59.460 And from your perspective, I completely understand why you took that as a threat.

01:45:03.000 Let me get that out of the way.

01:45:04.600 What he's saying is, if you get invited on a show, like, look at Milo or Laura Loomer.

01:45:10.620 Like, they fucking go ballistic on people.

01:45:13.720 Like, do you think that they've been canceled and that's why they don't get invited back on Glenn Beck or whatever?

01:45:20.620 It's like, no, you don't get invited on things because at a certain point, you just come across as so fucking dangerous and toxic that people stop giving you those invites.

01:45:29.940 So, he's saying, you're behaving in a toxic fashion and you're going to lose opportunities and then you're going to blame the Jews as evidence of, like, look, I'm being persecuted because of my beliefs.

01:45:40.920 I understand that.

01:45:41.880 As opposed to my actions.

01:45:42.820 So, that's the point he was making.

01:45:44.040 Here's what's happened, though.

01:45:45.120 Because, and I know Tim Pool is in a different tax bracket than all of us.

01:45:48.400 And I understand that he's got millions of followers and all that.

01:45:50.600 And I also understand that he's got those millions of followers by showing up at Occupy Wall Street right when this whole racial stuff started to happen.

01:45:57.240 I don't know when it started to fall apart, Tim.

01:45:59.000 But here's the deal.

01:46:00.380 You have this audience now that you have to play nice with or you'll lose everything.

01:46:06.640 Me, I'll say this, I don't give a fuck who hears it.

01:46:09.120 I know exactly who I am.

01:46:10.740 And I know people know who I am.

01:46:12.780 And whether I'm successful or not, that's completely up to me.

01:46:15.280 But up until now, I've used this strategy of saying what I think with a little bit of humor and telling the truth.

01:46:21.300 And I don't care.

01:46:22.640 Even if it's come off bombastic and people don't like it, I've said what I think.

01:46:27.120 And in the end of the day, why the fuck else would I buy this microphone and sit here for hours at a time to say it?

01:46:31.660 You can't do that anymore, Tim.

01:46:33.860 Okay?

01:46:34.380 And this was, maybe it wasn't a threat, but maybe it was an admission on his part.

01:46:38.400 And I'm sorry that you can't say, and whatever, blame the Jews, whatever straw man you'd like to create for the next PSYAP that's brought upon us.

01:46:45.800 You can't say what you want.

01:46:47.000 That's sad, dude.

01:46:48.260 I don't even know if what you have to say is even valuable.

01:46:52.100 Because I've never really heard you say what you really think.

01:46:55.240 I'd love to know what you really think, but you're telling us that you've never been candid with your audience.

01:46:59.200 I'm going to be candid.

01:47:00.100 I'm going to see where this fucking lands.

01:47:01.460 I've been canceled from a bunch of shit.

01:47:03.020 I've landed on my feet every single time.

01:47:04.740 And every single time, I've been better off for it.

01:47:07.040 I'm in a better situation with my family, my friends, the people around me, and my mental sanity for being able to say what I think in this end of days.

01:47:14.760 In this scenario.

01:47:16.000 So that's where I'm at with it.

01:47:17.640 Well, and here's the truth.

01:47:19.340 Like, there is—actually, I know about this because of my business school.

01:47:25.460 It's upstart versus established business.

01:47:28.120 Like, we are upstarts.

01:47:29.940 He's an established business.

01:47:31.540 Upstarts are much more provocative.

01:47:34.180 They take risks.

01:47:34.860 They do things that major corporations simply can't.

01:47:37.880 Tim, as far as a political commentator goes, is a major corporation.

01:47:42.300 I get it.

01:47:42.540 So he's not going to be able to take the risks that you and I can.

01:47:45.300 A lot more rigid.

01:47:46.820 Yeah.

01:47:47.220 And I get it.

01:47:48.140 I just understand that.

01:47:49.560 And I guess I don't take it personally.

01:47:51.340 Like, I know Tim personally.

01:47:52.680 I know his beliefs.

01:47:54.320 I think that he is just a much more moderate person than you are, or I am, for that matter.

01:48:01.960 And I think oftentimes people assume that he's, like, he's running away from topics to try and keep his advertisers.

01:48:09.900 Maybe.

01:48:10.420 I don't think so.

01:48:11.260 I think that he genuinely thinks that there is a level of, I don't know, kind of delirium when it comes to this Jewish stuff.

01:48:20.940 Like, he thinks that it's overstated and that it's kind of derailing the right wing.

01:48:25.860 I tend to agree that it is a little bit fucking over the top.

01:48:29.340 So that's why I see all sides of this, and I just come in the middle.

01:48:33.760 Here's the problem.

01:48:34.480 I'm friends with too many fucking people.

01:48:36.260 I like a lot of people, a lot of people like me.

01:48:38.440 And I don't know, I can't, like, I can't moderate all this shit between everybody.

01:48:42.060 So I'm just like, you go to war on Christmas.

01:48:44.180 I don't give a fuck.

01:48:44.900 I love you both.

01:48:46.000 You know, figure it out.

01:48:46.900 Perhaps I'd be more.

01:48:47.720 But war is one thing.

01:48:48.520 I don't think Top was mad.

01:48:49.820 I know.

01:48:50.140 I wasn't mad at all.

01:48:50.980 I'm just kind of, like, giving you a fiery monologue here because I might, maybe I'll clip it later.

01:48:55.480 But listen, this is what people do, right?

01:48:58.560 Like, I don't even know.

01:48:59.460 When he's yelling at people for whatever Jewish shit, I don't even know if he means it.

01:49:03.480 Like, I don't, we don't know to him.

01:49:04.840 But what I will say, though, is that, you know, if I do know somebody in real life, I'd be a lot more reluctant to be like, you know, fuck this guy or say whatever I'm going to say about him.

01:49:15.800 I met you in real life.

01:49:16.940 I, like, it didn't really come off as even a person.

01:49:19.400 It was a very bizarre experience.

01:49:21.280 And I don't know how, from what I've heard, a lot of other guests have had that same experience.

01:49:25.120 And honestly, you know, if you, you've been blessed, you've been blessed or given this opportunity.

01:49:31.680 And like I said, you're fucking squandering it.

01:49:33.640 Every chance you get, you squander the culture.

01:49:35.540 You get, like, you're sitting on a business, tens of millions of dollars.

01:49:38.660 You're about to have a kid.

01:49:39.580 Like, dude, why are you, why are you so, like, mad?

01:49:43.460 Why are you so, like, it just wasn't, it wasn't good.

01:49:46.260 So that's, like, when I do see him.

01:49:47.560 Why are you arguing with Top Lobby?

01:49:48.320 He's just numbers.

01:49:49.280 Like, it's just ones and zeros on the screen that I'm, that I'm talking with back and forth.

01:49:53.420 It's not, like, not a person.

01:49:54.820 And I met you in real life, too.

01:49:56.160 But it's, like, no personality there.

01:49:57.720 There was nothing, it was bizarre.

01:49:59.840 You had a different experience.

01:50:01.220 I didn't.

01:50:02.060 It was very weird.

01:50:02.920 Right.

01:50:03.540 No, and I'll, just to defend your position, I have, I've gone on the show, I don't know,

01:50:10.400 10 times or whatever.

01:50:11.500 And that particular appearance, he was as guarded, as unfriendly.

01:50:17.580 He was just having a bad day, honestly.

01:50:19.480 Like, but, like, if I was you, and that was the only time I ever met Tim Poole, I'd be

01:50:24.180 like, fuck this guy.

01:50:25.540 That's exactly how I feel about you.

01:50:27.280 Yes.

01:50:27.820 And so this is why, this is why I am understanding of both sides here.

01:50:32.500 But I also understand from Tim's perspective, he's like, I've given all these people, you

01:50:36.800 know, this huge platform.

01:50:38.120 I don't tell them what they can't say.

01:50:40.120 I mean, he may argue with you, but, like, that's cool.

01:50:42.940 Like, you, you should be allowed to, you know, argue with someone you disagree with.

01:50:46.540 Like, um, and then they're fucking flipping out on me on Christmas.

01:50:49.880 Like, what's this about?

01:50:51.080 That was actually, so the original tweet was like two days ago, which was, it was the weirdest

01:50:54.960 thing.

01:50:55.220 I don't know why he even replied to that.

01:50:56.620 It was on, like, the 23rd.

01:50:58.180 And he replied to it on Christmas.

01:50:59.220 Well, because he's sitting, he's sitting there on Christmas looking through his fucking replies.

01:51:02.800 And he sees one of the more liked ones is he's like, didn't I have this guy on my

01:51:06.620 show?

01:51:06.860 Why is he shitting on me?

01:51:07.940 And then he replies and he fucking, he fell in the trap.

01:51:10.300 You know, like, that's what happened.

01:51:11.420 That's it.

01:51:11.920 Yeah.

01:51:12.220 That's the game.

01:51:12.880 That's the game, baby.

01:51:13.880 And, uh, it is what it is.

01:51:15.140 We had a lot of fun.

01:51:15.980 I'd like to go in a hot tub with you, Tim.

01:51:20.720 I've done that before on a yacht in Miami.

01:51:22.860 Anyways, uh, tell people where they can follow you guys.

01:51:26.460 Uh, go ahead, Tom.

01:51:27.440 No, you can follow us at Nephilim Death Squad.

01:51:29.800 Email us at Nephilim D Squad if you got any crazy stories.

01:51:32.400 I'm just putting it out there.

01:51:33.740 We do a show every week or so where we read these crazy supernatural, whatever kind of stories

01:51:39.500 from whoever.

01:51:40.040 So I'd love to hear what kind of crazy shit your audience went through.

01:51:43.520 Follow me on Top Lobster if you like people that dunk on, uh, Tim Poole, TopLobster.com

01:51:47.620 for merchandise.

01:51:49.080 You got Liberty Lockdown merch, Nephilim Death Squad merch.

01:51:52.240 There you go.

01:51:53.540 You know, new, new Liberty Lockdown polo.

01:51:55.640 You got the black LL.

01:51:56.980 It looks sick.

01:51:58.660 Um, I'm wearing it right now for, for the audio listeners.

01:52:01.740 Uh, but yeah, TopLobster.com, grab one, uh, wear it to work and then have everyone think

01:52:07.280 that you're a huge Lakers fan.

01:52:09.180 But in fact, you're just a Liberty Lockdown psycho.

01:52:12.500 You're a white supremacist.

01:52:13.820 Yeah.

01:52:14.460 If you want to support my work, uh, subscribe on X at Liberty LockPod or LibertyLockdown.locals.com.

01:52:20.160 We love you guys.

01:52:21.420 Uh, have a Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and, uh, I'll see you guys soon.

01:52:25.320 Peace.

01:52:25.580 The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.

01:52:34.540 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

01:52:38.300 If you can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see, you

01:52:43.540 don't know.

01:52:44.680 Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening.

01:52:51.400 And they have.

01:52:55.840 Good night.

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01:52:57.520 Good night.

01:52:58.200 Good night.

01:52:58.660 Good night.

01:52:58.760 Good night.

01:53:00.380 Good night.

01:53:02.900 Good night.

01:53:03.540 I love you.

01:53:04.620 Good night.

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Nephilim Death Squad - December 31, 2024

000： Dangerous RTRD - Pilot Episode

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