003: From Alchemy to AI: The Evolution of Secrets and Symbols w⧸ Juan Ayala
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On this week's episode of Nephilim Death Squad, we have a guest on the show, Top Lops! He's a writer, podcaster, and podcaster. He's been with us for a long time and has been a part of the Death Squad for quite some time now. In this episode, Top talks about the events that happened on October 4th, 2019, and why we need to be ready to raise up.
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We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
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The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely
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We know what's saying to what happened to the home of the brave.
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We know we're talking about how they made us not to be slaves.
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And everybody's just walking around, hell in the clouds.
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Welcome back, guys, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad, the show where we hunt down and
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I am excited to let everyone know that we have, in fact, survived and are not zombies
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due to the October 4th, 2.20 p.m. emergency broadcast system.
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But before we do, I'd like to let everyone know that Top and I have just created a Twitter
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account, as well as Rumble, as well as a YouTube account for Nephilim Death Squad.
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So please, if you want to support the show, go ahead and follow and subscribe to those accounts.
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Top, let them know who you are and where to find you.
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Let's introduce our guest before I lose that thought.
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I'm just a regular guy who likes to talk about interesting things.
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Juan from the Juan on Juan podcast, tjojp.com is my website.
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It is weird because I have heard you for maybe like two years, at least on like Tinfoil
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And I really didn't have anything to say back then.
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But it is bizarre hearing you and talking to you now because I've been listening to you
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So, but I wanted to address the thing that David just like rolled in on with this.
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I'm just going to address what you said with the October 4th thing.
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I know you can, you can do all that, whatever you want.
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And like I did, I did it as one of these things like, yeah, fuck it, maybe.
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So I'm sitting on the trampoline and these guys are doing construction in my house.
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And then the trees above my trampoline start to like buzz in unison.
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If I would have had my phone, I would have recorded it.
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All the cicadas in the trees started like going crazy.
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And I looked at my daughter and I was like, did you hear that?
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I was like, I got out the, I got out the trampoline.
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I went to the contractor and I was like, like, Hey, you hear that?
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And he's like, yeah, my phone, my phone's going off right now.
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I don't know what the fuck that was, but I'm, I'm sort of glad that I put my, my phone in this Faraday box.
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When you say buzzing, do you mean like the cicadas were buzzing?
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Or like a different sound accompanies with the cicadas?
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Yo, it sounded like my trees, the trees were vibrating.
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I know that, I know that there's cicadas and then you'll hear them off rhythm sometimes at night mostly,
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And I was like, yo, this is fucking weird, dude.
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Like, this is, this is fucked up because again, you know what I know?
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Don't even run the, don't even run the ad today.
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Don't even, because now I feel like, like, like an asshole, but that, that did just happen.
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And I'm telling you, I was like, not, I'm not, I wasn't convinced at all.
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So did you think, did you think something was going to happen?
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No, I thought, I thought that, listen, I'm the type of dude that I unplug my wifi router
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I don't need to be fucking microwaved, you know, when I'm not at least using this shit.
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So I do, I do believe in, yeah, frequencies and stuff like that.
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We know that they're sending that shit over the air.
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I, I think that wifi will be like, when we're older, it'll be like a, like no smoking spots.
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Cause they know they'll, they'll already like have pronounced the, you know, what this shit
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So again, I feel like I'm just digging myself a grave here where the, everyone's like,
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no, like dude, man, like I read a lot of crazy stuff and, and right.
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Part of the occult and like the esoteric realm, like magic and all this stuff, like there's
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I mean, but I feel like being part of this community, community, if you want to call it
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that, there is like, there's so much fear mongering and I, and I get it because it gets
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the clicks, it gets the views and all that stuff.
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But there's the, the, the mind is a powerful aspect.
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And when you have in unison people, right, those are the directed energy weapons.
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Shout out to Emily Moore, where everyone, they focus everyone's intention in on one place.
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So when you have all these accounts and everybody making a conspiracy, not everything is a conspiracy.
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And this is why I'm here, like talking and researching, because I want to disprove some
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Not on like a superficial level, but like a psychological spiritual level.
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Like, so I'm a skeptic like anybody else, but when you have people pushing these agendas
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and the fear mongering, and then they just move on to the next thing.
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I do believe that there is things that we, that the public aren't exposed to such as advanced
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And man, I'll even say that some of this advanced tech is magic.
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Like it's, it's, if you want to believe like the whole fallen Nephilim technology, all that
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So most definitely they use frequencies and waves.
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And dude, one time I was, I was switching out my router.
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I unplugged my old router and I felt it like in my body.
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Like I felt so there, and you, you're so used to this white noise all the time that you don't
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But when I was, when I unplugged it, like I felt, I felt it in my body.
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Like I felt something, you know, shut off in my body.
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Like what I said is exactly what I meant to say, but my, my deduction from it is not
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necessarily that they're like emitting some kind of wave to kill us, but.
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That's exactly what they're going to be zombies.
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Like we know that, but what this felt like is like this shit is not medical advice.
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No, this shit is always going through the air, but like on smaller waves.
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It's one to one, if you're sending out like one giant message to everybody, it's possible
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that like whatever waves are being transmitted are like quite the, quite the bandwidth of
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waves enough to make crickets react, you know, which is like sort of like concerning, like
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I don't, I don't think it's like going to activate people's, you know, V statuses or whatever.
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And that was a lot of what people thought was going to happen.
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And so in the movie Kingsman, the, the main antagonist, he provides the general public
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And the idea is that there's a, the phone's going to, you made a frequency and it's going
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Was that, I think they both kind of did something like that.
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But you know, uh, what top is saying about this, this constant bombardment of all these
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We are going to look back in like 20 years and be like, oh yeah.
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Overexposure to like wifi signal and things like that.
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And I couldn't help, but think about when Juan is talking about the router going off and
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And it's almost like, it sounds like, you remember the old TVs, like a tube TV?
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Like you knew that bitch was on when you walked into the room and when you turned it off,
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it was like, you couldn't put your finger on it, but something was a little bit quieter.
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You're like, it was like a vibrational spectrum.
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I guess that's the same thing, but like, it feels, you could tell when you turn that
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So who the hell knows what all these things are, are doing or just turning us into like
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All these frequencies are passing through us and just destroying our bodies.
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Uh, but there was this idea that I only came across it like two days ago, right?
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This idea that the emergency broadcast system is going to go off and that, you know, it's
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And I think probably what really happened there, you know, cause I am a conspiracy theorist.
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Almost everything is like a psychological operation in my mind.
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So it's like, who looked at the data and number one, saw how effectively a social contagion
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I jumped on to post a stupid poll, like, are you a zombie yet?
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I mean, at the time that there was live spaces going where people were all in the same live
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Like, I wonder, I see a lot of people even in our chat.
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I, I didn't mean to fear monger because I, I, I hate that more than anything where they,
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it's like, like, like Sam would say, like, they're stealing your louche.
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You know, it's just a straight up loose jacket, like 9-11 or, you know, COVID, man.
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But then I, now I also feel like someone who's been abducted by an alien and now I can't,
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Yeah, you're ashamed and you should be ashamed.
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And it's fine because like, but I think that there's like this, this obsession with, in
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our community, which isn't, it seems like it's much bigger than it is because we're
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in it all the time, but the amount of people that are in our community isn't like huge,
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There's a really small amount of people that are in it.
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But since we interact, it's like an echo chamber type of thing.
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And I think like, they're like, they're so obsessed with wanting to bring forth the end
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So eventually when it ends, like it's, you know, like, oh, we, we were talking about,
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it's like, yeah, what about the other 52 times that you were wrong and, and off about
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your predictions, but it's like, people want to like, there's something about, and, and
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I, I resonate with that too, because the first text that I started to read, like when I first
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got my Bible, the first book I read was the book revelation, like the apocrypha and the
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end of times, like this mist, like almost like a mystical type of thing.
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There's a, I think it's the gospel of one of the non-canonical gospels where the, the
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disciples are talking to Jesus and they ask him like, yo, you know, when is it ending?
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Have you already forsaken like the beginning, right?
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The, and then he says something cryptic, like the ending will be where the beginning is
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and dah, dah, dah, and all this stuff, like some crazy alchemical cryptic allegorical thing.
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But I think it's like human nature to want to know where things, like a movie, we know
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where it ends, we know where it starts and we have a cohesive story, but I think there's
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so many pieces missing of our existence and our reality itself.
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What we feel, what we see, what we interact with, like that's subjective.
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And then the idea of like, we don't know where we came from.
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And then you have mainstream history, like painting a picture that's obviously full of
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I mean, that's, that there's something to be said there too.
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And I think it's just, it's just human nature to want to know, like when it, yo, when is this
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going to go, you know, tits up or whatever it is that they say, like, you know, I want
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The other, the other week, me and Raven, I think we brought up a bunch of times.
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Like, um, we, we, we're playing a game with, you know, eternal things that have zero time
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preference, but we do our time preference would be like somewhere in between 75 years.
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So we're trying to like, like you say, like, when does it end?
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So these other, these other things, whatever's going on here since the beginning of time,
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um, they're playing the long game and they've set like so many traps, like long game traps
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that like, how could we know I've been here for 30 something years?
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Like the fuck do I know it's, it's, it's back to really wrap your mind on that.
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We were mentioning how, uh, you know, if you trace it back and I, and I know one that you've
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done a lot of research that brings you very far back in human history.
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And when you start to see a breadcrumb trail that is, you know, all the way back since
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the dawn of time and leads up to all of the events that are happening now.
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And I'm not saying that we're in the end times or anything like that, but I think human
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history up until this moment is all biblical, right?
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Well, I mean, it's, it's a record of the past, but that energy and that sort of mysticism
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around the human, uh, species is still there with us to this day.
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And so if, if the plan goes back that far, it makes you wonder who has the ability to
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And we sort of were going back and forth with that on another episode, but what you were
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saying earlier, Juan, about, um, all these misdates, right?
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I sometimes wonder, cause I've been looking at this for a long time and it started when
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I was a teenager, my, my interests in sort of end time things and conspiracies and all
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And so when you're young, I mean, I'm still dumb, but I was way dumber back in the day
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and I fell for like every prediction in the book.
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I really thought Pac was coming back for like a long time, dude.
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Um, and then it's just, you know, nothing burger after nothing burger after nothing burger.
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And sometimes I wonder like, is that part of it?
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Like, is this a general raising of the public's level of anxiety?
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Can you, uh, destabilize a people by dangling this end times carrot in front of their face
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And I think the stress on the human psyche of being primed for something like, like the
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Like this moment where it's all going to pop off.
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We're all going to hear an EBS alert and we're going to turn into zombies.
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Like maybe you don't really buy it, but there's a part of you that, that tenses up.
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And when you do that to an entire society and you do it again and again and again, what
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Is it like, is that one of the reasons why you can look around on the internet and see
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You know, cause there's a lot of reasons whether they're political or racial or religious
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or all these different things, but it's part of it that we're just tensing up and then
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And then we're tensing up and then nothing happens.
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Like five years from now, the entire species is just going to die of a stroke.
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Cause so you're, you're talking again, we're in, we're in it.
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But you know how many people have zero clue on what's going on?
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I mean, that, that majority of people who aren't interested in the topics that we're
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talking about is much greater than, than we think.
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So there's a large percent was the statistic, like 85% of the population has no inner monologue.
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Like how many people don't think about what they're going to say in their head and they
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just say it like, is that, is that proof of who MPCs is that proof of, of homunculus running
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Like, is, is that like, cause that's, that's a thing where people, what they're thinking
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Like they have to whisper it to themselves in a sort of way.
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So I think that the amount of people who are working the grind nine to five, which I'm a
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Uh, you have a family, have kids, have all this stuff.
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A lot of them aren't even paying attention to any of this stuff.
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And it's going to hit them in the face when it, when it gets here, it gets here.
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And, and I also think that some people do it on purpose to not stress themselves out
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Like if you're always constantly thinking about how it's going to end, like, I think
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that's, and that's part of the MK ultra where if we are constantly bombarded with these ideas,
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we, we manifest it, we manifest this into existence.
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And I think that's where, again, the nature of reality, we don't understand really.
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Because if you get enough people on board with an idea, things start to happen, things start
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Again, that's why I said directed energy weapons.
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And when we all focus in on the Titan at the bottom of the ocean, what if we imploded it?
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Because everyone, everyone and their mom was talking about it and focusing in that intention,
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How many, how many dog men, how many dog men do you think Tony Merkel has created?
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Like dog men popping up like, the fuck how'd I get here?
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And that's part of it too, because if you get into this whole realm of possibilities and
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The mundus imaginalis, which is something that I talk about, where you are able to open
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up portals that connect these, you know, the, the war, the mundus imaginalis is the world
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And there's like where the angels exist and everything.
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And according to the lore, portals open up from these two realms and that's where you
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get the veil is thinner or the, and when people are focusing, I think books are portals.
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Like if you're reading something that's off, I think you can open up a portal.
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And even the occultists talk about things bleeding into our reality in these other around the
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universe, be the cliff off, whatever you want to call it.
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It's got a whole bunch of different names, but yeah, dude, by people thinking about it and,
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They're, they're, they're bringing it into existence.
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In my opinion, I think there is a sort of, of aspect to this, I don't know if you want
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And I mean, that's, that's why I love alchemy because it takes all those concepts and it's
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It's, it's, you're working on four different planes of existence simultaneously to essentially
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what you're trying to do is step out of space and time.
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I mean, that's that the ideas and operations from that woo-woo thought developed chemistry.
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So these alchemists in their labs, trying to find the elixir of eternal life or trying
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to make a homunculus or trying to do whatever the operations from that led to chemistry.
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So the woo-woo leads to the science or seance or whatever you want to call it.
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I mean, just cause it changed name doesn't mean it hasn't changed.
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So when they throw in quantum physics or they throw in theoretical physics or whatever it
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You're working with forces that you don't understand and you can kind of manipulate it to bend at
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your will sometimes, and sometimes you can't, right?
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So it's like, sometimes CERN can locate the Higgs boson or whatever they're trying to find.
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Well, we don't know, but we know that, that, that matter reacts a certain type of way when
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it's being observed versus when it's not being, what does that mean?
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Does that mean that every atom is sentient and, and has consciousness?
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But we don't know because we don't have answers to those questions.
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But how many dogmen do I think he's brought into existence?
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Because we talked about earlier, uh, we're the direct energy weapons.
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And then this whole, uh, observer phenomenon, it's like literally paying attention, directing
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your energy at an object determines its state, you know, to some extent, if you're into quantum
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I'm not that smart, but, uh, I think that's a good segue to, to start to talk about, uh,
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what it is that you focus on one, which is really, um, I, I said before that I've been
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in this for a long time and I don't want to kiss your ass on a live stream, uh, but I
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You're, you're one of the only people that I've found, um, who focuses on alchemy.
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And it was something that I was peripherally aware of, you know, it's like transmuting
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a metal into gold is the surface, the really surface level kind of definition of, of alchemy,
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or at least what it brings to people's minds when you mention it.
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Uh, but listening to you, I've learned that it's, it's so much more, um, in a way alchemy
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is almost interchangeable with the, the words, um, you said seance before I almost said it,
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uh, with the word science in that science is the study of all things.
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And alchemy very much kind of goes in that direction too.
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Uh, could you explain to people what it is that, that alchemy means to you and, and, uh,
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maybe a little bit about what it's like to see the world through that lens, because you
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look at everything through the lens of alchemy, or at least, uh, on your show, that's the impression
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It's funny you bring this up because I'm, I'm reading a book on Fulconelli and by Patrick
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It's, it's Fulconelli and it's true identity revealed.
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And I've been studying it and taking notes and they said something in here that is going
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to fit my description, because to be honest, I don't know.
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And here at the bottom says still, when all passes and returns, why wonder if one acquires
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the habit of thinking about the mystery of things, if to some extent, one gets into that,
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One clearly realizes that everything transforms, acts, influences, and recipro, recipro, I can't
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Uh, the, the, so influences depending upon the atmosphere, which continually modifies
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And that to me, right there, this, uh, this concept of the more you look into it, the more
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And, and to me, when I first got into like the esoteric and the occult alchemy was always
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You can read all these books about it and you're never going to get a straight answer.
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And the reason for that being is because again, the more you look into these concepts, to me,
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they morph, but alchemy in particular, because it's a psychological, biological, transcendental,
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And there's also an aspect to it where it's whatever it means to you.
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You first have to purify yourself and, and, you know, look within in order to achieve
00:26:39.600
And you can't achieve that until you've purified yourself because there's a biological transformation
00:26:47.000
And I think that we're all alchemists, you know, cause we're transmuting the ideas of
00:26:52.420
As they listen to this, they're connecting dots that they wouldn't have otherwise connected.
00:26:56.540
So we're speaking, you know, things that are causing change.
00:27:04.940
If you go back to the origins of money, that's alchemical, right?
00:27:08.960
The Knights Templar who invented the modern day banking system, who were in touch with entities
00:27:14.280
outside of space and time, allegedly were right.
00:27:18.420
The, the, that story, that lure helped them create the modern day banking system was, was,
00:27:23.940
which essentially is you deposit money here, get it out over there with this little card.
00:27:30.200
And then they realized like, Hey, we can charge people to let them borrow other people's money.
00:27:36.240
They're not all going to take it out at the same time.
00:27:38.200
So bada beam, bada boom, you got the modern day banking system.
00:27:41.740
And they say that the alchemists, that the, that the Knights Templar had the alchemical secret.
00:27:48.620
And that's how they were able to fund all of these cathedrals and all these different things.
00:27:53.240
And within those cathedrals, according to Folconelli, they, they put in the blueprints of how to create this philosopher's stone.
00:28:02.700
Now the philosopher's stone, the elixir of life, the divine androgen, the magnum opus, the homunculus,
00:28:08.500
which are all aspects of alchemy, we're thinking of them as like the, the philosopher's stone, a stone.
00:28:20.480
Would the Ark of the Covenant fall underneath those, like this banner as well?
00:28:25.000
So the Ark of the Covenant, yeah, it was like, uh, they, I think they had relics.
00:28:30.960
Now the Ark of the Covenant, uh, I'm not too familiar with the lure there, but you know, like the Holy Grail,
00:28:36.520
they talk about it being, is it a grail or was it a bloodline and the actual grail is a person and a lineage.
00:28:43.980
So we're thinking of the philosopher's stone, right?
00:28:53.620
And it's veiled under the symbolism of a stone.
00:28:59.480
So there's so much, there's so many layers to pull apart and it's all those things that we just talked about and more.
00:29:09.140
Cause the, the alchemists were, there were a secret society essentially is what they were.
00:29:13.780
And they regarded this specific knowledge that only a certain few could have access to it.
00:29:20.880
So it goes back to the same exact people that we always talk about where they're like, you know, whenever we say they, they're, they're trying to control, they, this, they, them, whatever.
00:29:33.980
Cause who are you to determine what knowledge is, is sacred or not?
00:29:39.960
And I think that's why the Gnostics were wiped out because they were like, yo, what they don't want to tell you is that you can achieve divinity yourself.
00:29:53.960
And again, I'm not bashing anyone's religion or anything like that.
00:29:57.620
You don't have to go to church every single day and pay the man.
00:30:07.880
They have to come to us and they have to be good little people.
00:30:10.600
They have to pay their tithings every single week.
00:30:12.780
And we're going to put in a good word for you with God.
00:30:15.020
And maybe if you're good, he might just save you a seat.
00:30:18.000
And I said, you're like, no, bro, like we can achieve that ourselves.
00:30:21.860
And Gnosis is whatever sacred knowledge is to you, whatever, however you interpret it.
00:30:28.680
And again, it's a very free flowing hippie and love type of thing.
00:30:32.540
But I think there's something to be said about that.
00:30:34.900
And usually I've recognized throughout history that all the people who speak some sort of truth
00:30:41.440
and are censored and are put down and eliminated, they were usually onto something, right?
00:30:49.020
And they were, they were preaching things that the establishment didn't appreciate.
00:30:56.180
But yeah, alchemy, it's a lot of different things.
00:31:04.840
But yeah, the base level, turning base metals into gold.
00:31:09.700
The more philosophical, spiritual, turning yourself into a better being, whatever that means at the end of the day.
00:31:18.240
And then there's the more interdimensional, esoteric aspect of it, where it's like you're deconstructing reality itself.
00:31:26.960
And you're able to step outside of it and manipulate it from the outside.
00:31:32.460
So I think that's what a lot of the elites are striving for, right?
00:31:49.180
Okay, well, we're going to manipulate these symbols, right?
00:31:54.260
We're going to put these symbols in front of people and manipulate them with that.
00:31:57.740
Physical symbols as well as metaphysical, right?
00:32:03.060
Because again, there's that aspect of you have the practical alchemy where you're moving things around in matter, right?
00:32:11.840
And then you also have you're playing with the symbols through whatever other means that aren't physical, if that makes any sense.
00:32:22.920
And that's what I love about it, because you can focus on the practical alchemy all day long.
00:32:28.900
You can focus on the spiritual alchemy all day long.
00:32:34.400
And it's also a large section of history, which also has something to say where it's like there was nothing to it.
00:32:41.880
Because this is my other like black pilled part.
00:32:56.040
You see a reoccurring pattern of, again, all the same symbols throughout all different religions, all different civilizations.
00:33:05.720
And maybe you were talking about frequencies earlier.
00:33:08.380
Like maybe you have to be attuned to a certain frequency to see that.
00:33:13.480
He had a heart attack like two or three years ago.
00:33:17.360
First thing I asked him when I saw him, I was like, how was it, bro?
00:33:23.040
Dude, I've never met anybody who's died four times.
00:33:29.520
First thing he says to me, he's like, I don't remember anything.
00:33:38.780
Well, maybe it wasn't his time to go because he's obviously still here.
00:33:42.340
Maybe there's not a spiritual bone in my dad's body.
00:33:44.860
So maybe he's not attuned to the frequency that he needs to be, right?
00:33:48.960
So maybe it's all the stuff that they put in people nowadays, right?
00:33:53.840
Certain people take certain things, which is fine because we have free will.
00:33:59.800
Or again, the phones, the 5G, the whatever hurts, et cetera, et cetera.
00:34:07.280
And that'll suppress people a certain type of way.
00:34:09.300
You know, there's talks of auras and all this stuff, but I don't know.
00:34:12.980
I think that there's a lot more to reality that they don't teach us in school.
00:34:18.920
And I'm still trying to find out of all the hours, out of all the things I've read, I still
00:34:30.840
As you're saying that, I'm thinking about like, why would they change the general hurts
00:34:36.220
of music from 432 to 440, knowing that like 440 will cause this like kind of like anxiety
00:34:42.240
inducing behavior, whereas 432 is a lot more relaxing, actually does have health benefits.
00:34:49.040
Whereas like Bob Marley, someone, when you look at his music and what he's trying to reflect
00:34:52.680
and say, all his shit is recorded in 432, which is like almost like a half step down.
00:34:57.560
Like my Martin over there is tuned to 432, like standard.
00:35:02.880
But like, if you really think about that, it's like, they're doing it for a reason, but it's
00:35:08.300
Like, like, like a little bit of sand here, one grain here, and maybe this will break your
00:35:12.180
Like when we were just talking about the frequencies earlier, it's not going to kill you, but it's
00:35:16.360
like, here's a little bit more, you know, here's a little bit more and making like,
00:35:23.060
Like you're saying, if you, if we're talking about like how people are vibrating, if you're
00:35:26.580
vibrating at a high level, but you got a crazy heavy ass blanket on you, it's like, well,
00:35:30.360
maybe that's kind of where they need you to do whatever the fuck they're doing next or
00:35:37.400
It's just, it's just constant, it's constant bombardment.
00:35:39.840
And again, even talking about it is bombardment because it's like to the spirit, right?
00:35:46.500
And that's not my intention here, but I think if you're aware of it, possibly you could
00:35:50.780
you could just like understand what I'm saying, you know, and not, and not, not be dragged
00:35:59.180
What comes to mind is that ignorance is bliss though.
00:36:01.320
And I think that being sometimes like, I'll be honest, not saying I'm the most enlightened
00:36:06.620
being that there is, but sometimes I wish I could be as, I guess it's bad to say, but
00:36:13.320
as ignorant as some people who don't, I can't have normal conversations with people anymore.
00:36:17.460
All my friends are in the computer for a reason.
00:36:27.340
You know that meme, Juan, where the dude's in the corner at the party, he's got like his
00:36:31.800
little hat on and it's like, uh, they don't know what a homunculus is.
00:36:39.840
I, I lived in New York, had a house, had a very good job and all that.
00:36:43.560
Sorry, they're doing construction on my house here.
00:36:53.920
But I felt like that for a long time, man, where I'm like, like, I'm very serious and
00:36:59.840
And like, kind of like hard, I was, I felt like I was hard to have a conversation with.
00:37:03.320
Then I kind of just embraced the comedy side of it because, you know, it's, it's such a
00:37:07.500
tragedy, like what's happening that we can, I can look at it and, and be sorrowful over
00:37:15.560
Like if, if you were the people pulling the strings and you were like, let's make their
00:37:22.640
If it was a Seinfeld episode, I'd be like, boom, boom, boom, you know, what if that's
00:37:27.940
what the, what the alert was trying to do today?
00:37:34.500
I was going to say we're maxed out on gay, bro.
00:37:39.440
I want to toss this to, to you guys because top is, is very into music.
00:37:44.520
Um, and, and Juan, you're into all sort of the symbolism of things and alchemy is heavy
00:37:51.080
And the way that I came into all of this when I was younger was noticing these, um,
00:37:58.160
symbols constantly inundating music videos in particular, Hollywood certainly.
00:38:03.500
But it's like when you have a three and a half to four minute video, it seems like they
00:38:07.020
just try to squeeze as much shit as they possibly can in there.
00:38:09.480
And so when I was a kid, I was seeing all of this.
00:38:11.760
And the only explanation that I've ever gotten, um, or, or rather when I was a kid, the only
00:38:17.720
explanation I had was it's sort of this thing that they're doing to, to add some mystique
00:38:23.420
to their brand, you know, like Jay-Z is only putting all this shit in his music videos
00:38:26.900
because he wants to create lore essentially was, you know, and I'm doing them a favor
00:38:32.660
They were just like, they just do it for fun, which is kind of a shit, uh, uh, excuse.
00:38:37.620
And especially when you, the symbols are of the same nature, right?
00:38:42.240
There's always an inverted, uh, star or pentagram.
00:38:45.020
There's always an all seeing eye, um, you know, there's a lot of mirrors and goat heads
00:38:51.360
And I would be interested in hearing, you know, because a lot of people go, well, those
00:38:57.120
symbols are the symbols of, you know, this dark cabal that's running everything behind
00:39:02.380
Um, but I would be interested in your thoughts and, and top's thoughts on what do you think
00:39:10.260
You know, it's a weird kind of priming, uh, to, to show us these things that I guess
00:39:19.780
Um, or they, you know, because a lot of people, despite being exposed to the same media throughout
00:39:27.320
all these years, like you said, 85% of people don't have a internal dialogue.
00:39:32.820
So let's just say 85% of people don't even see this shit.
00:39:36.580
So if it's going over that many people's heads, what do you suspect is the, the point
00:39:43.200
of just inundating us with these symbols that most people don't even notice?
00:39:48.200
I think some people, I think that a lot of these artists might, I mean, there's two sides
00:39:53.760
There's might be the ones that use it consciously knowing what they do.
00:39:58.140
And then I think there's the ones that you just use it to be edgy.
00:40:03.240
And recently I had a friend of mine who interviewed the ex son-in-law of Anton LaVey.
00:40:13.260
And he brought me up in the conversation, how I believe that the elites are using these symbols
00:40:20.440
And the guy pretty much was in, didn't call me directly an idiot, but that line of thinking,
00:40:30.500
So I, essentially I got called an idiot, not directly by the ex son-in-law of Anton LaVey,
00:40:39.340
I can't flex at any party that I go to, but I can flex to my friends on, on that are in
00:40:47.900
I got dissed by Anton LaVey's ex son-in-law, like whatever.
00:40:52.820
So I think there's that aspect of it, but if you really, if you can really go a whole
00:40:59.860
bunch of different ways with this, because if you believe that maybe this reality is some
00:41:13.960
And let's say that certain things resonate more in that simulation, in that reality, more
00:41:23.600
And I think that the, the, you can write Carl Jung, the Jungian approach of it.
00:41:28.980
It's like these symbols can help you unlock certain things within yourself, right?
00:41:34.640
Uh, where it can help you achieve more essentially.
00:41:37.180
So by these alchemists, cause they're, they're also talking about symbols and the reason that
00:41:42.500
the, that the alchemist spoke in symbols and allegories and all these things was to occult
00:41:48.480
the truth or whatever they were trying to put out, because it was dangerous at that point
00:41:56.700
And you, they were essentially being hunted down.
00:41:58.900
You could die essentially at this time by having and possessing this knowledge.
00:42:02.780
So, Hey, what a better way than to just paint a whole bunch of plates and occult what we're
00:42:08.440
trying to say, but a hashtag, if you know, you know, and the ones that write the uninitiated
00:42:17.580
So I think that they, there's a combination of, of two and, and dude, like I get emails
00:42:24.820
all the time with people that are like, I got tricked into joining the Freemasons or
00:42:32.900
I would, I thought I could get more knowledge than what I was able to get.
00:42:41.580
I think that the regular, the regular person, how, how Michael Hoffman says is more initiated
00:42:47.760
than the actual people in these secret societies through like, look at a lot of people game,
00:42:53.860
look at Assassin's Creed and how occult that game in itself is like how wild, how much
00:43:00.320
stuff, like people were telling me about it until I looked into it myself.
00:43:03.900
It's like, they're, they're talking about some crazy Illuminati stuff in there and like
00:43:09.120
And it's like the regular gamer is more susceptible, you know, more, uh, there's more symbolism put
00:43:15.320
in front of him than the, than the actual people in these secret societies, Freemasons,
00:43:24.300
And I don't think they even need to hide it anymore because it's all, and to me, my, my
00:43:30.420
personal opinion is, and this is why it's so important to really know what you're consuming,
00:43:34.660
because it's, to me, I've learned through my occult studies is about the occulted scaffolding,
00:43:42.440
So let's say that they, you can flash out an eye, you can flash out a pyramid, you can flash
00:43:46.800
out all these things, but what went behind the charging of the, of that sigil or that
00:43:51.860
mandala or whatever, that's the important part.
00:43:54.380
And I think that's where the esoteric knowledge really goes into, because if you're focusing
00:43:59.320
on the exoteric, what they're presenting outward to everybody, it's going to affect those who
00:44:03.920
And those that are able to Paracelsus calls it the, the magicians are the ones that are
00:44:11.740
able to turn their souls into mirrors and reflect the light back.
00:44:14.420
And I've been on this kick lately because, right, the Illuminati, the enlightened ones,
00:44:20.800
The Lucifer, the light bringer, there's this, this obsession with this light.
00:44:26.260
And I think that the mysteries it's, it's about light.
00:44:28.940
Now, I don't know if it's a symbolic light or an actual physical light, but if you really
00:44:37.840
Essentially they were worship and fire is kind of sentient in itself.
00:44:45.500
And we just had the Maui fires and all these things.
00:44:47.780
So fire is, has like a spirit of its own, right?
00:44:52.860
And I think there's something to be said about that because if you think about the MK
00:44:57.140
ultra that we're being subsetted to this mind control every single day, well, what's it
00:45:02.260
from, from the light, from our little scrying mirrors here, from the light of our, of our
00:45:08.900
computer screens that we're surrounded with every day, right?
00:45:13.200
It could be the actual light, the, the media, the movies that we're susceptible to.
00:45:23.840
I mean, it's, it's all, it's all an alchemical process reaction.
00:45:29.700
So it's a combination of these symbols, but the occult, the scaffolding that goes in behind
00:45:35.040
that behind, if you look into anything, like quite literally, I do this all the time.
00:45:43.100
And the, the technology was brought forth because they wanted to prove either the existence
00:45:48.780
of God or deity or spirit or something metaphysical.
00:45:53.280
So they're like, all right, let me just see if I can manifest it in this thing.
00:45:56.480
And it's like, Oh, dude, the guy, the super that invented the supercomputer, he was talking
00:46:04.860
He was going underground and these tunnels that he was digging, he was talking to elves
00:46:11.640
The guy, the father of the modern day computer, he tried to summon the devil one time and is
00:46:18.280
Oh, he was also hanging out with guys from the OTO and all these, that dude, don't even
00:46:25.140
There's nothing, so it's like, don't, if you look, you're going to find, have you heard
00:46:32.780
Um, Oh, Paul, Paul of, uh, understanding conspiracy on YouTube.
00:46:41.420
He's got that theory about the Nephilim being like, uh, the, the clowns, the clowns being
00:46:46.900
But, uh, one of the things he said was that like after the flood, how some of them got trapped
00:46:50.800
and, or maybe they were banished to this other dimension, do you think that you think that
00:46:55.380
all these elves or whatever beings you're seeing on the other side, are these Nephilim
00:47:00.020
that are just giving, giving this technology, these ideas, or what do you think?
00:47:06.680
I think that they go by a bunch of different names.
00:47:08.760
And if you trace back the origins of alchemy, it actually, it actually came from the watchers
00:47:14.120
They actually descended from them and through the lineage of Noah, Noah was one of the greatest
00:47:21.300
And so if what I think is going on is when they were banished, right?
00:47:28.200
When these Nephilim were, were wiped out, they were pissed and energy can't be created
00:47:35.420
So when they got transformed, this, how we get these spirits, demonic entities, et cetera,
00:47:40.500
that are existing in this other, this other, other dimension, essentially is what it is
00:47:43.960
like this, this place where they can kind of sort of interact with our reality, but not
00:47:51.400
And right before they got wiped out, they taught, right?
00:47:55.280
The daughters of men, the secrets, those secrets were alchemy.
00:48:01.740
I was doing an episode with Joel or I forgot who I was podcasting with, but he can't
00:48:05.420
about what the whole thing is like, well, what if that was intentional?
00:48:08.360
Like they knew that they were going to be wiped out because there are these right
00:48:12.100
interdimensional entities that probably had knowledge to things to come, right?
00:48:19.320
They were able to divinate into the future and like, yo, we're about to, we're about to
00:48:23.580
So let's teach these secrets to the daughters of men.
00:48:25.800
And that ties into the homunculus lore because through alchemy, through the arts, you make
00:48:33.240
Well, some scholars talk about how the homunculus is actually an artificial demon or a vessel,
00:48:41.660
And there's also the idea of the alchemist becomes a demon while making the homunculus.
00:48:49.280
And I don't think it's a coincidence that the first alchemist, Zosimos of Panopoulos,
00:48:55.080
one of the oldest alchemists that we have recorded history from.
00:49:06.960
I forget whatever he said, but just rattled that off like, no problem.
00:49:21.620
So Zosimos of Panopoulos from probably from the second or third century, he was, he is
00:49:28.320
the alchemist that we have the oldest records for.
00:49:31.020
And he, I don't think it's a coincidence that he was obsessed with the books of Enoch.
00:49:35.380
So he was writing about Enoch and the idea of the watchers and the Nephilim had a book
00:49:46.420
And this book that they wrote all their secrets in, they passed it on to man.
00:49:57.380
Allah, sacred, you know, El, et cetera, et cetera.
00:50:03.500
So again, there's this whole lore and this whole mythology behind the origins of alchemy.
00:50:08.700
And the homunculus plays a crucial role into it because it's like, did they give this tech
00:50:13.640
before they were wiped out in order to reincarnate later on?
00:50:21.560
So it's like, all these alchemists are literally doing the devil's work and they're letting these
00:50:28.720
Because if you follow the lore, the homunculus, when it's set out into the wild, it becomes
00:50:42.640
And that's directly from Paracelsus talking about that.
00:50:46.260
That's the father of toxicology, writing about giants, gnomes, homunculus, and all this
00:50:52.900
So again, very influential people who we have toxicology, like literally the field of toxicology,
00:51:04.620
He was one, his family was one of the first mining families.
00:51:08.120
The, there's a lot of stuff that we use in surgery today came from this Paracelsus guy
00:51:19.520
And from his crazy, he is the typical like mad scientist, right?
00:51:25.000
The, the archetype of the mad scientist in the lab trying to, right?
00:51:29.760
Like that whole idea really, I would say it came from Paracelsus as like this hermit alchemist
00:51:38.680
He always, he always carried around a sword with him.
00:51:42.580
And, um, yeah, like it's just, he has a really fascinating history, but from that dude, we
00:51:50.100
So like how I mentioned at the beginning from the operations of alchemy, them trying to like
00:51:57.220
We have chemistry and like the actual breakdown of elements, the periodic table and all those
00:52:03.540
things where those, they were essentially also working with those same elements.
00:52:07.740
And I mean, there's something to be said there.
00:52:10.460
I think there's, like I said, there's something more woo woo to reality, but at the end of
00:52:15.140
the day, it comes back to that occulted scaffolding, like the intention that went behind whatever
00:52:21.080
So if you're conducting alchemy, just know that, yeah, there's the good parts about like
00:52:26.300
spagyrics where you're able to make antidotes and make medicine and all these different things
00:52:31.240
where you're extracting things from plants, mixing it together.
00:52:35.280
But there's also the part of like, Hey, maybe these Nephilim gave this tech to the daughters
00:52:40.080
of men as like a fail safe, like a dead man switch.
00:52:46.440
They're going to be messing with this stuff that they can create gold.
00:52:49.280
Well, what if that's like, uh, uh, just a by-product of that?
00:52:55.180
Do you think that, uh, you think that the AI that we're working with right now is, would you
00:53:03.160
Cause it seems like whatever information and technology we were given in the recent
00:53:10.940
Whatever this AI thing is that can do everything, you know, from, from the basic, like from the
00:53:17.180
Once we started using, uh, you know, one of these things to, to calculate, it all leads
00:53:25.560
I think if anything AI is a sort of golem and the difference between a golem and a, and
00:53:35.060
a homunculus, they're both artificially created beings through magic essentially is what it
00:53:41.120
The golem is born fully grown and the homunculus is, can grow into a thing.
00:53:49.380
But the difference between the golem and the homunculus really is one is also created through
00:53:53.800
like word magic and from like the ground, from, from clay or whatever you want to call
00:54:01.220
And one is created from the seat of man, right?
00:54:09.680
So again, like this Terminator story, we have the Frankenstein story where what happens?
00:54:17.840
Well, the golem story is essentially the same thing.
00:54:19.900
And the golem fits a more of that AI cybernetic Terminator type of thing, where we brought
00:54:26.160
it into existence to write 16th century Judah, Rabbi Lowe.
00:54:30.920
The stories were that they were trying to protect this Jewish ghetto and this, this rabbi.
00:54:37.100
And again, there's various versions of the story creates this golem in Prague from the
00:54:44.840
It's got the prima materia because there is Moldavite in the ground from a meteorite that
00:54:50.220
crashed in there and it spread the Moldavite everywhere.
00:54:53.220
And so he creates this golem to protect the ghetto that Rudolph the second was trying to
00:55:01.300
But then one night he forgets to erase the letters that he put on, on the forehead of this
00:55:07.380
And the golem goes on a rampage and he just starts offing everyone, starts destroying
00:55:13.360
everything until he's able to put it under control.
00:55:16.980
And some, and some of the, the stories, the golem is growing bigger and bigger when the
00:55:28.540
And I always got to miss it from a met to met and one means life.
00:55:33.740
So it's like the rising from the ashes, Phoenix, it's reborn every single day.
00:55:38.460
One night he just forgot to erase one of the letters and it stayed alive.
00:55:42.460
And so, and some of the stories, when he's able to erase the letter, it falls on him.
00:55:48.560
And then in other stories, he's just able to put it under control and they take its body
00:55:54.600
I think it's a, some church or something, whatever they call their churches.
00:55:58.660
And it's supposedly still there till this day, no one's allowed to go up there.
00:56:01.860
But, uh, so you have that archetypal Frankenstein story.
00:56:07.280
Your creation goes out of control, which is what everyone is really afraid of now with
00:56:21.140
Cause from what I've learned from these techno wizards is that the AI is only able to do
00:56:29.960
But I also believe that technology itself is a sort of gateway, not just for like the AI,
00:56:38.480
but for entities outside of space and time, like unintelligible, the disembodied spirits
00:56:44.920
Um, maybe if you want, yeah, you can, or the elder gods or the great old ones, whatever
00:56:50.460
you want, insert your entity or deity of choice here.
00:56:56.080
And that's, so I think it serves as a port or quite literally.
00:57:01.340
Whenever you type in, you know, the worldwide web, you're in, you're entering a portal, you're
00:57:13.240
They're trying to open up portals to other dimensions.
00:57:19.280
So I actually, I actually, I made a connection with Crowley and CERN because again, I'm sure
00:57:29.020
There's nothing to this, but all these occultists of all time, like the most infamous ones, right?
00:57:38.360
Uh, he, they were trying to either bring forth an age of some sort, like the Aeon of Horus
00:57:43.840
or the Aeon of, of, of, of Mott or whatever they were trying to do.
00:57:47.740
You have Parsons with the, the Scarlet Woman, the Whore of Babylon, also trying to incarnate
00:57:54.820
So they're all about bringing forth, which is very alchemical because if you look at alchemical
00:58:03.920
They're deconstructing reality and quite literally bringing forth the apocalypse, Ragnarok, whatever
00:58:10.360
And John D and Edward Kelly, also in the 16th century, they were being talked to by these
00:58:17.300
And these entities on the other side were also focused on that.
00:58:20.220
I'm bringing forth the new, a new world, quite literally a new world order, a new world
00:58:25.260
And they were giving them the tools to be able to bring forth this change.
00:58:30.560
So where they, where those entities trying to break into our existence in some sort of
00:58:35.360
And as long as you align everything up, it's like the Faustian pact, I'll give you this.
00:58:51.600
I mean, I mean that quite literally, because they, part of the John D and Edward Kelly
00:58:57.140
lore is that they had to swap wives because the angels told them.
00:59:00.280
So there's something weird there too, but that's like, oh, like in Hollywood world, they all
00:59:10.440
And she's like, yeah, this is probably still doing, there's, there's, there's, there's
00:59:14.080
something, there's something to the, the old eye of hope.
00:59:18.820
If you know what I mean, the old portal, the old brown eye, there's something to that
00:59:23.360
And there's also a lot of weird history that you can dive down in regards to that.
00:59:28.120
But, uh, Crowley also used the Nokia and magic, which was what John D and Edward Kelly were
00:59:35.720
And I think that they were trying to, again, open either themselves up as a sort of portal
00:59:40.680
for these things to come into or open up an actual portal.
00:59:44.200
And I linked, uh, this, this guy, his name was Michael Millings Crowley, who was working
00:59:54.460
Now, this guy in 1947, the same year that Crowley died, he added a second Crowley to his name.
01:00:04.980
So he was named Michael Millings Crowley Crowley.
01:00:08.360
Why would you add a second Crowley to your name the same year that the Crowley died?
01:00:13.100
And this guy was definitely not as cool as the other guy's name.
01:00:16.360
Yeah, no, no, that was the most, uh, and the, this guy wasn't just a regular guy at CERN.
01:00:23.040
He ended up helping develop CERN to like where it's at now, essentially.
01:00:28.360
And there's one important aspect that's, that's important to all this, that he was essentially
01:00:38.740
So touchscreens, as we know it today, he helped bring that forth.
01:00:43.680
So what I'm insinuating is that these magicians or these occultists, whatever, they continue
01:00:53.220
Similar to the Nephilim, they're still working on the outside skirts of, of reality.
01:00:58.360
And they're able to maybe influence and possess people in some sort of, maybe they, maybe
01:01:02.640
they had the secrets and that is the secret where you're able to be immortal, which is
01:01:07.440
part of alchemy too, and kind of manipulate people from the outside.
01:01:11.380
And maybe those voices that we hear in our heads might, there might be more to that.
01:01:17.880
Maybe the people who can't hear their inner monologue are actually the good guys.
01:01:21.700
And we're the ones that are messed up because who, what are those voices?
01:01:36.260
So I think that he's continuing his work and was able to continue some of his work, even
01:01:42.940
though he's already passed on, if you will, if he ever did pass on.
01:01:46.440
That lends itself to like this idea that I've, I'm, it's not original, but I used to play
01:01:53.820
And at one point it kind of dawned upon me, it was like, you too, yeah.
01:01:58.140
It dawned upon me that it's like, we're not playing on our, like on our home turf here.
01:02:03.680
If you, if you buy that, like, you know, when they say Lucifer walked, he had like these
01:02:08.160
tendrils and tassels and he basically made a beautiful sound.
01:02:10.840
And some people say he was the first musician and I kind of believe that because I go into
01:02:15.020
the realm of like, you know, vibration and frequency and that's really all that, the
01:02:22.820
We're forming chord shapes and harmonies and different things like that, but we're not
01:02:26.860
playing on, like on, on, on our home, on our home turf.
01:02:31.480
This is like very, like, like it's alchemy, it's alchemy and it's like a door that we've
01:02:35.780
opened and it's a seed that he's left there, that Lucifer has left and said, let's see
01:02:40.840
Kind of like, you know, the godfather of the touch screen.
01:02:42.940
He kind of left this premature stuff and he's like, it's going to grow into something.
01:02:48.740
It could be good, but it's a very dangerous game and a thin line that, that we walk with,
01:02:53.940
with these technologies and ideas and stuff like that.
01:02:56.640
This plays into, into what you asked me earlier, right?
01:03:01.680
Shout out to Tony Merkel, where I met, I talked about the Mundus Imaginalis.
01:03:07.040
Well, one of the technologies to tap into the Mundus Imaginalis, and I think this is why
01:03:16.140
One of the technologies to access that other realm, which is autonomous, which exists on
01:03:21.780
its own, that gushes forth from the imagination of man, is through scrying.
01:03:27.040
What are you doing when you're, you're essentially, you're scrying into a black mirror every single
01:03:34.760
Is that amplifying your thoughts and your ideas and you're maybe pulling things out of this
01:03:41.640
Because there's something about the imaginary that still kind of sort of exists, but not
01:03:48.280
Because if you think about the mind and how that works, you're able to go other places
01:03:54.980
When you dream, you were there, but not really there.
01:04:00.480
When you wake up, we expect to be the same person.
01:04:05.580
When we dream, do we leave some of ourself in this other reality, right?
01:04:10.620
You're talking about waves and Delta and Theta and all that does stuff.
01:04:14.880
Like, I think that there's something to be said of like, you know, when we, I stumbled
01:04:20.200
across this, I have this other, I have this other show called the Occult Book Club with
01:04:26.920
And, and we essentially, we try and find the most obscure books that we can find that have
01:04:34.500
And we read them, we give you the cliff notes of it.
01:04:38.180
And we found this book from, from the 17th century by this guy with two first names, Gabriel
01:04:43.460
There's really not a lot of information on him.
01:04:45.320
And he was talking about how René Descartes essentially had discovered the technology
01:04:51.260
to project his consciousness into another realm.
01:04:54.720
And they were able to, that book from 1694 is the first time that they ever used outer
01:05:02.720
Now, I know some people think space is fake and gay, but that's besides the point.
01:05:06.420
But the idea that René Descartes had, right, learned to project his consciousness out of
01:05:17.420
But there was an important aspect because back at, back at the body, there was the thing
01:05:26.220
And I've, I've, I've dubbed it the Cartesian homunculus because there was a little, what
01:05:30.280
they described as a little black moor, a little black entity that would enter your
01:05:34.420
body and that little entity would just do the bare minimum for you.
01:05:43.920
There was one thing that you couldn't do with that little black moor.
01:05:49.440
Now, I don't know how many people nowadays you can't have a deep conversation with that
01:05:55.840
There's a lot of people you can have a deep conversation with.
01:05:58.080
And this concept, I've seen it in a show from Amazon.
01:06:02.980
It's called peripheral and I don't want to spoil it for people, but essentially they're
01:06:09.860
And when you're gone from one reality and you're in the other one, something, they call
01:06:13.700
it a thumb takes over your body and does whatever, you know, it'll breathe for you.
01:06:21.660
And I think that they take, right, these concepts from these books that are obscure.
01:06:27.560
Like me and Thomas have the only video on YouTube about it.
01:06:30.880
Like how many people are even, I wonder when the last time anyone ever read that book was
01:06:37.500
So again, very obscure thing, but I think there's secrets that are, and I think we stumbled across
01:06:42.700
a grimoire actually, like in a grimoire is pretty much a book of spells and it's a story,
01:06:48.240
but I've learned from reading a cultist work that they are cult truth with stories.
01:06:53.740
Cause there's something powerful about that too, taking the imaginary and the real and
01:07:01.000
You know, that's why Stephen King is, oh, go ahead, Dave.
01:07:04.180
Stephen King is a cultic, uh, uh, kind of dark arts dude, I think.
01:07:09.540
But, um, I didn't want to say that we were just talking about shows and I know that I've
01:07:19.820
It's called a changeling and I don't want to spoil it, but a lot of, there's constant
01:07:28.820
And it has to do with, you know, transmutation and there's a lot of talk about the gods and
01:07:36.380
I don't want to spoil it, but, um, I'd be remiss if I didn't tell you, you should check
01:07:41.260
I was watching it and I was like, fucking Juan would love it.
01:07:43.260
I don't want anything up my alley, but thanks for the heads up, bro.
01:07:51.580
Um, one of the things I wanted to say before we get to, cause we have a segment called a
01:07:56.040
Nephilim shit where we just kind of react to things.
01:07:57.940
And I'd like to show you some videos, but, uh, I know we don't have you for long.
01:08:03.800
Um, if you can give us a, the audience, an idea of this, one of my favorite things about
01:08:08.680
you is that you look at things on multiple levels.
01:08:13.680
So it's, it's a literal thing, but it's a symbolic thing, but it's an alchemical thing.
01:08:18.480
And, and one of the things that you laid out that I really enjoyed, and I think the audience
01:08:24.300
would too, is, uh, and you don't have to go into a lot of depth, but this, this Titan
01:08:28.760
submersible, I w I believe it was you that started connecting it to this idea of, um,
01:08:34.400
this, uh, uh, entity that's associated with Solomon.
01:08:40.900
That that's about the most favors that my memory will do me there.
01:08:45.020
Um, but I thought it was really interesting because you were looking at the submersible
01:08:53.840
And while the rest of the world was just looking at this high anxiety situation that was filled
01:08:59.860
with all kinds of weird, you know, kind of, is this government hiding things from us?
01:09:05.260
It went off, but your take was really interesting.
01:09:08.560
Do you think you could tell us a little bit about what are some of the significant aspects
01:09:12.040
of the Titan submersible that, that you found compelling?
01:09:18.620
I was, what I was actually doing was doing meme magic.
01:09:21.560
And I put a meme out cause I was making fun of people focusing on it.
01:09:25.380
And then it turns out, right, like that got a whole bunch of comments and a whole bunch
01:09:30.000
And then I'm like reading the comments and I was like, Oh man, there's actually something
01:09:33.700
But I related the Titan submersible to Solomon Shamir and the Shamir again, back to King Solomon
01:09:42.900
could have potentially had the alchemical secrets from his dad, King David.
01:09:47.660
And the Shamir is described as a worm that helped him build the temple, right?
01:09:57.220
And it's also described as either a worm or a substance, which was weird because again,
01:10:03.580
I mentioned earlier about the philosopher's stone.
01:10:05.340
It could have also been a substance or it could have been a reaction in space and time.
01:10:08.980
So maybe the Shamir is alluding to the philosopher's stone occulted with the appearance of a worm,
01:10:16.040
And essentially what I ended up doing was I ended up posting this meme that I did.
01:10:21.500
I had posted it first, I deleted it, I put my watermark on it, and then I posted it again
01:10:28.160
because I was like, whatever, like at least I'll get some credit.
01:10:31.960
Then people started, I saw other people create it, like recreate it without my watermark on
01:10:36.760
They would take the Shamir and then they would put the submersible on it and they're like,
01:10:41.740
Then there were some other people who actually used my thing in the game and like they would
01:10:44.520
give me a shout out, but I was trying to make fun of people focusing on this event.
01:10:50.660
And then it ended up like I, I tripped down the rabbit hole and I was just like hitting
01:10:57.460
But essentially what I think was going on is again, one of these alchemical rituals where
01:11:01.720
they put these symbols out there subconsciously.
01:11:06.400
And when I really peeled the layers apart, it went all the way, it was connected all the
01:11:10.060
way back to the Bohemian Grove and how our boy, I forgot, I already forgot his name, but
01:11:15.260
the dude that, that was in charge of it, his daddy was in the Bohemian Grove.
01:11:19.960
His, he was a frequent guest of the Bohemian Grove.
01:11:23.380
So it's like, are these people put on the world stage as some sort of either sacrifice?
01:11:30.020
Did, did these people actually pass how they say they did?
01:11:32.760
Were there actually people on that submersible?
01:11:38.200
So when you start to appear all these layers back, it's like there are symbols on top of
01:11:43.960
And I found that out the hard way, but yeah, but I started with a meme and it just comes
01:11:49.520
to show you how powerful memetic magic and memetic occultism is where it took it, right?
01:12:04.440
But yeah, Solomon's Shamir and it's got a whole lure on it.
01:12:09.240
Solomon was also an alchemist in my opinion, and he was doing some alchemy.
01:12:13.000
And I think it involved that, that thing, whatever it was.
01:12:17.560
Hey, does it, uh, does it influence your thought process at all about that?
01:12:23.920
Beast was supposed to be on there and it seems irrelevant.
01:12:26.520
But then, you know, when you think about the cultural ramifications of that, like the largest
01:12:31.080
YouTuber right now, it's almost like, uh, the Seth MacFarlane things that like he got
01:12:37.040
pulled off the plane before nine 11 or however you want to look at that, that that's kind
01:12:42.280
Well, it, it, it alludes to the fact that maybe there, you know, it points to the fact
01:12:48.220
that maybe there are people who are put in certain places for a certain reason.
01:12:52.780
And again, insert homunculus here because a homunculus, it went from this crazy concept
01:13:02.280
A homunculus could be a person who was part of a wealthy family, elite family, and their date
01:13:08.100
of birth was planned to be this date at this time, such and such month, such and such place.
01:13:14.880
Therefore, now they're going to carry their birth date, their birthday as a sort of talisman,
01:13:21.500
Maybe as a sort of, of nod, if you know, you know, therefore making them a homunculus,
01:13:26.900
they're going to grow up and be a regular person.
01:13:28.840
But then again, that occulted scaffolding that the family plan for that particular person to
01:13:38.700
I mean, the Bohemian Grove, from what I've heard, they're not that secretive of people.
01:13:47.200
And I think that's also a part of it because I didn't think there was anything to it at
01:13:57.580
And then when I would look that up, it would connect to something else.
01:14:00.140
And I was like, oh, here, I was like, here we go again, guys.
01:14:02.960
So then, you know, I take out my handy dandy notebook and I start to take notes and then
01:14:08.040
one thing leads to the next and it spreads like like wildfire.
01:14:12.620
So I think that, yeah, if there if anything, there are homunculus running around and the
01:14:18.880
higher levels of society and versus like the whole NPC thing.
01:14:23.320
I think that because Crowley wrote about homunculus, too, in his book.
01:14:26.960
He wrote, I think it's forgot which Lieber it is, but one of the Liebers.
01:14:32.040
And he also wrote Moonchild, which is about a struggle between two different lodges, essentially
01:14:42.080
And in there, he gets into in depth about homunculus.
01:14:44.540
And again, I'm sure it's just a fictional story, right?
01:14:49.540
And I'm sure that he didn't make some characters in that book about him.
01:14:53.920
And I'm sure that the opposing characters weren't his enemies from the Golden Dawn and
01:15:03.260
So, again, I think that these people are messing with these sort of things and they make movies
01:15:11.400
And like I mentioned earlier, the more I look at reality, the less I know what it actually
01:15:19.140
And it's changing real time right in front of me.
01:15:21.600
So from all the stuff I've read and I was able to connect those dots with the Shamir
01:15:25.720
and the, you know, the whole thing, the submersible, because I look at so many different books,
01:15:33.320
And unfortunately, they get ingrained in my my memory.
01:15:36.880
And when I look at something, I can kind of sort of deconstruct it and like, OK, that's
01:15:42.080
And it's a gift and a curse because I can't watch movies anymore.
01:15:45.280
But, yeah, you know, dude, you you're reminding me of my favorite character in the Matrix.
01:15:59.380
But but yeah, it's just like like I kind of I'm there with you.
01:16:06.900
If you can, just put it away for a weekend, eat the steak, then come back.
01:16:11.980
If I was single and didn't have a family, no kids, I'd like to be eating of the steak.
01:16:18.860
With kids and with family, it's like, do you want to can you know, they're in this world
01:16:30.600
So I think that that changes everything for me.
01:16:33.540
But if it was just me, I probably wouldn't care and make such a big deal about it.
01:16:39.560
And I'm sure, you know, if you have kids, it you level up and you can't describe what
01:16:45.980
that means unless you've been there and you give a shit about your kids.
01:16:48.820
So, again, I don't know how to describe that feeling, but it definitely changes your your
01:16:54.380
state of mind when you have a little homunculus of your own.
01:16:56.800
And I think that's how that's why how the alchemist felt, too.
01:16:59.500
Well, like, I love you and they want to, you know, hold their homunculus and play with
01:17:03.360
it and and teach it to do tricks and stuff like that.
01:17:08.860
You said that the homunculus are at the high levels of society.
01:17:12.640
Are you are you saying that only the higher levels have these homunculi or like because
01:17:20.320
there are NPCs, but you're not considering them to be homunculus?
01:17:29.960
I don't think that there are people here just for texture.
01:17:32.760
I think that there are some people who are maybe less smart than other people, if anything.
01:17:37.440
Not to be mean, but the homunculus aspect is remember the whole thing about the homunculus
01:17:42.200
is to acquire godlike powers, to use Matt, to use the homunculus for your for leverage
01:17:50.680
So we know that these families, they put their they put their people in their companies in
01:17:59.960
We know that they're you know, the government is full, right?
01:18:02.520
The bloodlines, all these different things that we know we can trace them back.
01:18:07.240
So that's what I mean by them being in these upper in these upper places in government.
01:18:14.520
Maybe there's a homunculus right now who's not too bright in the White House.
01:18:18.420
Like there's the truth is stranger than fiction.
01:18:21.420
OK, and when you see certain things, you go, OK, and there's no there.
01:18:27.220
It's not a coincidence that these occultists were writing about this.
01:18:30.560
And remember, the same stuff that I'm reading, the same books that I'm looking at, these elites
01:18:37.240
There's a reason why all the the monarchs and kings, queens, they had their own courts
01:18:47.340
So what is to be said from that, that the government, the powers that be want to also
01:18:53.540
leverage this knowledge and use it for their own benefit?
01:18:56.740
So, again, what what's I don't know what's going on, bro.
01:19:00.280
But if I was to put my money on it, I don't like the MPC thing of like people just being
01:19:04.820
empty vessels, maybe they're not empty vessels in their homunculus that were created for a
01:19:10.460
purpose, rent and repeat, use them up, throw them out.
01:19:15.100
We know that they're making entities now in labs.
01:19:23.740
But they've been doing it behind the scenes for a long, long time.
01:19:31.400
Homunculus, they were actually artificially created in what's what's a test tube, baby.
01:19:40.040
He was created artificially and he was in a pod.
01:19:42.700
He was grown in that pod for the benefit of the machines.
01:19:52.160
But he's a homunculus created specifically for that purpose.
01:19:57.220
So homunculus have soul, but are like have a soul.
01:20:06.520
So how did, how are you saying that Neo then broke out of this and acquired a soul or like?
01:20:19.580
Some people said that God would infuse them with a soul.
01:20:23.420
Some other, some other alchemists would be like, no, demonic entities go into them.
01:20:31.240
Then Crowley would in the 19th century, in the 20th century was like, hey, yeah, we can invoke a soul into this thing.
01:20:38.140
But it's going to be a regular person, going to be conscious and grow up to be like a regular person.
01:20:44.120
It's going to have the spirit of the great scarlet woman or, and pick your elemental.
01:20:49.880
So, and what, and what's happening, bro, you have to understand that these magical systems evolve from the start.
01:20:59.200
People start to adopt it and they tweak it to fit their needs because magic is like the force, right?
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Certain people, the initiated, the Jedi are able to tap into it.
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But then when you tap into it, you can either be a Sith or you can be a Jedi.
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You can use it for good or you can use it for evil.
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So I think the same thing happens with this, whatever magic is, whatever that force is, you can either use it for good or you can use it for evil.
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And I think that some magicians were using it for nefarious purposes.
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And some other ones were using it for, I don't know.
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And by the way, I have a homunculus owner's manual by Paranoid American, which you can get on my website, tjojp.com.
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And in here, if you have a homunculus and you're having trouble getting it under control, we teach.
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There's 33 pages jam-packed of information here.
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Homunculus and, again, no homunculus guaranteed.
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And, yeah, dude, it's the whole history of the homunculus.
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Do you think this homunculus idea ties into the gay agenda?
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Because it seems like, again, what you're saying, homunculus will be created in a lab or in some artificial way.
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Like, at one point, they want you just smashing all day.
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But then the other point, it seems like they want you just smashing dudes all day.
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And it's like, you know, they're telling people don't get married.
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It really does tie into, like, we need less real actors in this world and more texture.
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Dude, I mean, I know you were going to go there.
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But if you want to go there, I mean, we can go there.
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But that was one of the aspects of the Crowley and homunculus where the Messiah, the Antichrist, the bringer of death, whatever you want to call him, was going to be born from abnormal means, including being born rectally.
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Listen, dude, there is literature to support these claims, okay?
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I'm not pulling this, no pun intended, out of my ass, okay?
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I have something that I've dubbed Saddamic time travel.
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And Crowley wrote about that, how he preferred the Eye of Horus over the mouth of ISIS, if you get what I mean.
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There was a certain sect of Gnosticism that believed...
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That inside of your b-hole was a whole different world, a whole different dimension.
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And you could essentially impregnate yourself and bring forth...
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I just didn't know I had a whole dimension in my ass.
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The divine androgen, which is a hermaphrodite, essentially, is part of the great work.
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So, what I think is happening is I think that they're trying to quite literally transmute reality itself.
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Pull the celestial bodies down and destroy reality.
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And one of the things from that would include this thing that you're talking about.
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And Paracelsus also was like, listen, and I'm going to obscure this as much as I can.
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But we're not going to stop it because we've got to save the little boys.
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We have to stop it because we don't want all these butthomunculi running around, okay?
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There's, again, literature to support this where he's not even...
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He cares more about the butthomunculi that are being created through what they're doing with these, right?
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It's going to be a priest just shitting out a baby.
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It's about the anal birth of the homunculus, yes.
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That reminds me of the whole Lilith thing, right?
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This is what I don't understand, Juan, is like, you're like, NPC, that's a little dehumanizing.
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They got to subscribe because we're doing the dirty work for the people.
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We're up at an hour and a half now, and I think that we just drew out about as much as we can
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I didn't think that we were going to get the butthole of monkey lie out, but goddamn it,
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But, I mean, like I said, I can send you the receipts after the show, and you can read
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Any work that you have about ass babies and ass dimensions, send it our way, please, 100%.
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And where can they find all your other stuff, too?
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If you want to get the most out of the show, patreon.com slash the Juan Juan podcast.
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I post almost an episode a day, sometimes, some weeks.
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And if you want to follow me, any major podcast platform, or Apple, Google, Spotify, whatever,
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I do censor the YouTube right before anyone asks, because we got to go where the people
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The YouTube is mainstream, but you can't say the cool stuff.
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If you want to catch the video versions and the butthomunculi conversations, it's going
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You can find all my stuff and anywhere, really.
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But, Juan, thank you for coming and talking with us.
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No, no, I mean, like, on multiple levels, we didn't deserve this shit.
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No, dude, we didn't deserve you to come on here, and we really appreciate that.
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Like I said, I'll send you some literature after the show so you can look.
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And I always tell everyone, you know, I'm just a regular guy, and honestly, I research
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whatever I find interesting, but I'll get hung up on certain things more than others because,
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But I always encourage everyone to do your own research, right?
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And do your own research and look into it yourself because, like I said, I think that
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the truth is stranger than fiction, and there's so much left on the table that we don't understand.
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And I'm just trying to, again, shed some light on what's going on in this crazy world.
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So, yeah, take that for, I just present the ideas, and people can do whatever they want
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Thank you, guys, for tuning in to Nephilim Death Squad.
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The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.
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It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.
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If you can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see, you
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Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening.