Nephilim Death Squad - October 12, 2023


004: Exposing the Hidden: Nephilim Portal Theories w⧸ Joel Thomas


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00:01:11.800 We are being hypnotized by people like this.
00:01:19.940 News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.
00:01:24.380 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
00:01:33.320 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely
00:01:38.620 ignore us.
00:01:39.840 What's going on, guys?
00:02:07.180 Welcome back to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad, the show where we hunt down and
00:02:11.480 expose Nephilim shit.
00:02:14.060 I am David Lee Corbo, aka The Raven.
00:02:16.960 I am here with Top.
00:02:18.480 Top, introduce yourself.
00:02:19.900 What's up, man?
00:02:20.380 Top Lopsa here again with you guys.
00:02:21.900 I'm happy and blessed that you're having me back and that you idiots keep showing up to
00:02:26.180 this show.
00:02:27.400 Introduce our guest, man.
00:02:28.380 Bring him in, man.
00:02:29.040 The man of the hour.
00:02:30.840 Oh, you know how this is something that I was just thinking about.
00:02:34.140 We were talking off air.
00:02:35.480 Eddie Bravo is kind of the flat earth guy and I'm not going to lie to you, Joel.
00:02:39.860 I'm not gassing you up, but you're my Nephilim guy.
00:02:42.740 Joel Thomas is my Nephilim guy.
00:02:45.780 Joel, can you introduce yourself and tell the people where they can find you?
00:02:51.240 Let's start there.
00:02:53.240 Yeah, I'm Joel Thomas and I've done music for a long time.
00:02:57.460 That's really how I started really with everything.
00:03:00.520 So I've done music for like 20 years.
00:03:03.180 I started this movement called the Van Tesla Movement with another artist about three years
00:03:08.200 ago.
00:03:09.360 And Tony Merkel from Merkel Media and the Confessionals caught wind of it through a producer of mine.
00:03:15.080 He reached out to me, ended up in the studio with him back when he lived in Philly.
00:03:19.120 And he and I really clicked.
00:03:21.600 So he really liked what I was doing because I was very much against the system.
00:03:25.260 And, you know, he challenged me with some things when I met him.
00:03:29.960 And, you know, as I started growing and progressing, he hit me up several months later and asked me,
00:03:36.180 did, you know, I want to go on a trip with him to hunt down dog man.
00:03:39.260 And he was putting a team together.
00:03:42.020 I'm like, brother, I grew up in the North Georgia mountains most of my life.
00:03:45.680 So, you know, I'm used to seeing, you know, bears walk in front of my house when I got up
00:03:51.660 in the morning.
00:03:52.260 So, of course, you know, I'm down.
00:03:54.640 He was like, hey, you got the artillery for it.
00:03:56.540 I was like, dude, I'm not talking about deep state like this if I don't.
00:04:00.140 So absolutely, I'm going to go on a trip.
00:04:03.220 And then it just started snowballing from there, ended up getting a podcast game and really started
00:04:10.240 meeting a lot of really cool people through that, a lot of networking that went involved,
00:04:15.780 started working with some great guys that, you know, really expanded my mind.
00:04:21.760 But in doing that, you know, I really started going real deep into this Nephilim lore and how
00:04:28.620 it connects to what's going on in the world today, because I feel like that people are
00:04:35.360 understanding more and more that there's a spiritual realm and there's some sort of spiritual
00:04:40.240 battle going on, but they don't know exactly what.
00:04:43.300 And there's a lot of people out there that are giving false prophecies and false information
00:04:49.560 to people to help guide them into really on the Nephilim team, per se.
00:04:56.160 So I listened to some really great guys that set me on the path.
00:05:00.480 Obviously, Gary Wayne, who's an absolute genius in the field.
00:05:03.740 L.A. Marzulli, another one that's just an absolute genius in the field.
00:05:07.420 When it comes to, you know, what I'm looking at spiritually, Michael Heiser has just been
00:05:12.360 phenomenal before he passed.
00:05:14.400 A lot of these guys are really on that trail and they've done extensive research.
00:05:21.300 You know, what you do as a researcher yourself, you like certain guys, but then you start
00:05:25.480 digging yourself and start creating your own theories.
00:05:28.180 And last year with a lot of research, I ended up coming up with this theory called the Nephilim
00:05:32.980 portal babies.
00:05:34.020 And anybody can find the whole lead up to it in a four and a half hour podcast I ended
00:05:39.580 up doing on the confessionals about this and what that means in today's context of what
00:05:45.220 the Nephilim are to us today.
00:05:49.060 Not just in the past, but they are to us today.
00:05:52.500 So I think that's something that I want people to understand.
00:05:56.820 But also just from a biblical alchemical way of thinking is something that people don't
00:06:04.340 understand, too, that the Bible is an absolute crazy book that when the church got a hold
00:06:11.240 of it early on, and when I say the church, I just mean like Roman Catholicism and a lot
00:06:15.960 of these elite structures that got involved to keep us away from the supernatural piece
00:06:22.140 of it, it got really dumbed down and watered down.
00:06:25.200 So what ended up happening was people got really bored with the Bible and all these rituals and
00:06:30.220 all this stupidness saying that, hey, you got to go to this guy before you can get to God
00:06:33.880 when actually the book's telling you you can just do it yourself.
00:06:36.740 You can get to God yourself.
00:06:38.080 I mean, that's how it's supposed to be, and what ended up happening on the opposite
00:06:42.380 end of it, you've got all this really cool stuff when it comes to the new age and when
00:06:47.320 it comes to all of these other occult things that people get attracted to because they know
00:06:52.940 there's a spiritual world.
00:06:54.520 So then they run to that side of it because those people are selling them the goods.
00:06:59.000 Well, they think they're the goods.
00:07:00.640 I'm just here along with Tony Merkel and a lot of guys that are in the field with me,
00:07:06.120 literally, that we're here to tell the people that, hey, look, this book is super crazy
00:07:11.680 and it's super true.
00:07:13.380 So if you understand that and connect the past to now and understand that there's this
00:07:19.740 crazy world that is happening around us right under our noses, I think people will be more
00:07:25.480 prepared for what's going to happen in the future, whether it's tomorrow or 100 years
00:07:30.620 from now.
00:07:31.000 So I think that's basically my take on it as far as right now goes.
00:07:36.620 Yeah.
00:07:36.780 Let me just say a quick thank you to guys like you and Tony specifically because for the last
00:07:42.680 maybe over a year or so, I've been delving more into this realm.
00:07:46.440 I've always been in conspiracy.
00:07:48.440 I got my come up sort of like in like this pseudo political libertarian realm and then
00:07:53.820 also the art stuff.
00:07:54.620 But for most of my life, I've been a Christian for my entire life.
00:07:59.340 And I kind of went in the church, went away from it, you know, played guitar in the church,
00:08:03.740 went away from it, got hurt, you know, like the usual stories of people that classic.
00:08:07.520 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:08:08.600 Same here.
00:08:09.200 I did the same thing.
00:08:10.280 You find out about like it's a government church.
00:08:12.440 And then once you see what's underneath, it's kind of always decrepit and disgusting.
00:08:16.980 But I used to believe the Bible as like I'll say, this is a great book.
00:08:21.580 We shouldn't throw it away.
00:08:22.880 And my argument was it's a great book of like allegories and metaphors.
00:08:26.320 And we should use this as a way to live our life.
00:08:28.780 And I still believe that.
00:08:29.860 But over the last year and a half, listening to Tony and other guys in this realm, once
00:08:35.920 you kick that door open, like Sam Tripoli, when he has these these guests on, I'm like,
00:08:40.480 oh, my God, this book might not be just allegories and tales on how to live your life.
00:08:47.520 Although you should you should look at them that way as well.
00:08:50.460 But like most of this shit is true.
00:08:52.940 Like, you know, Jonah in the belly of the whale.
00:08:55.680 That probably happened.
00:08:57.500 Genesis six.
00:08:58.160 That probably happened.
00:08:58.760 The story of Noah.
00:08:59.760 All this stuff that happened.
00:09:02.080 And it's way more fantastic than than people want to admit or we are ready to believe.
00:09:07.620 But once you start to think in that lens, a lot of this other stuff that's happening
00:09:11.860 in the world starts to make more sense.
00:09:15.200 You know, like, especially politically.
00:09:16.800 And side note, there's evidence that the fish that Jonah went inside of wasn't actually a whale.
00:09:26.420 That was the fish that was created specifically for that incident.
00:09:29.180 And it was translucent.
00:09:30.720 So when he was in the belly, he could actually see everything around him.
00:09:34.340 And he knew that he was stuck in the water, essentially, because this fish had to be able
00:09:40.240 to produce the oxygen needed for him the last three days.
00:09:43.860 So it's being said that it was probably a fish that was created specifically for that incident
00:09:50.600 to get him in there for three days so he could contemplate his next move.
00:09:56.660 Was he actually going to preach the word to Nineveh or not?
00:09:59.180 So that's very fascinating because nobody can survive an actual whale at all.
00:10:04.720 It's impossible.
00:10:05.920 So it's really cool that, you know, you brought that up because I've done some pretty extensive
00:10:11.440 research on that, too.
00:10:12.780 So, again, guys, have you seen the latest video?
00:10:16.020 Could be a hoax.
00:10:16.900 It's they're saying that, like, somebody took a video in Antarctica and it's a huge jellyfish
00:10:21.280 looking thing, kind of just like UFO jellyfish floating.
00:10:24.300 I'm like, I'm thinking of a translucent fish and a jellyfish comes to mind.
00:10:28.200 I'm like, well, maybe it's like Nephilim shit or.
00:10:31.020 Well, I tell you what, if you get if you want to talk to somebody about organic UFOs, reach
00:10:36.960 out to cryptids of the corner who are the hottest in the game right now.
00:10:40.440 Those guys will come on here.
00:10:41.700 And Justin is an actual biologist.
00:10:43.600 He was in the field for several years.
00:10:46.460 And these guys will absolutely blow it away.
00:10:48.820 And when you're talking about he will talk about he knows everything about that whole jelly
00:10:52.720 incident that went on down in Antarctica and he can equate it to these jellies that live
00:10:58.700 in the upper atmosphere as well.
00:11:01.000 And he'll tie it into Nope, the movie Nope, which is actually soft disclosure because there
00:11:05.260 are organic UFOs, which he believes are in the five percentile of what we see.
00:11:09.660 But there are organic UFOs.
00:11:11.340 And even biblically, there is scripture that talks about organic UFOs as well.
00:11:16.140 So it's pretty fascinating that you brought that up because I completely agree with you.
00:11:21.440 I think there's a whole other realm of UFOs that we don't even talk about.
00:11:25.660 Did you I feel like I was going to say, I feel like we have to talk to cryptids of the
00:11:30.540 corn, because when I saw Nope, I thought it was such an awesome take.
00:11:35.620 Like it's one of those concepts that's right in front of your face the whole time.
00:11:40.060 But I admittedly, I never thought of it was this organic UFO.
00:11:43.560 And the whole movie, you know, done through that premise was was honestly fantastic.
00:11:47.940 So, yeah, I mean, I would love to talk to cryptids of the corn.
00:11:51.460 And I wanted to say real quick, it's funny how I see all these people that had this sort
00:11:57.080 of church upbringing and also played music in the church.
00:12:00.100 I don't know if you caught it last episode, Top, but when you said that you played music
00:12:04.060 in the church, you played was it drums or guitar?
00:12:06.060 You said a guitar.
00:12:06.980 I think then Juan played drums.
00:12:11.480 Juan Ayala of one on one.
00:12:12.840 He said it.
00:12:13.400 Let's make a band.
00:12:13.880 I don't think you heard it.
00:12:15.080 And I was like, damn, dude, like, what is this?
00:12:16.980 All these guys sort of growing up in the church.
00:12:19.420 I came in.
00:12:20.000 Juan Ayala.
00:12:21.060 Because if I don't shout him out, then I can get in trouble with him later.
00:12:24.920 Yeah.
00:12:25.080 Shout out to the shout out that you shouted out.
00:12:28.080 Big shout out to Juan Ayala.
00:12:29.920 I heard if you don't shout him out.
00:12:31.320 I was thinking even of the vessel.
00:12:32.480 If you don't shout him out, you might be a homunculus and maybe a butthole homunculus
00:12:35.880 too at that if it's how he's feeling.
00:12:38.740 A homunculus ass, baby.
00:12:40.580 I think, you know, in the scripture it says raise a child in the way that they should go.
00:12:44.800 So if you're brought up in the church, if you're playing instruments to that, you're
00:12:47.980 in the church to that level, it's no surprise that you kind of end up here.
00:12:51.580 A lot of people do end up here because, you know, inquisitive minds keep on digging and
00:12:56.040 digging and digging further.
00:12:57.420 Like my big thing in church was my Sunday school teacher.
00:13:00.680 I would constantly quiz her and just make her look through scripture for me.
00:13:04.920 Things that I was like fascinated in as like a child, revelations and other parts of the
00:13:08.940 Bible.
00:13:09.300 And she entertained and she actually went.
00:13:11.240 She's like, I don't know.
00:13:12.160 And she'll come back and tell me.
00:13:13.900 But yeah, it doesn't surprise me that those kind of people are here now asking those questions.
00:13:18.620 And for the most part, they're like generally good people.
00:13:21.620 The ones that I've met in real life and even online, you know.
00:13:24.640 I have something coming up where I'm going to church for the first time and I'm kind of
00:13:30.900 caught in this weird space where, you know, I always say I came to Christ and and these
00:13:39.080 sort of religious ideologies through the back door.
00:13:41.160 I came into the paranormal and the occult.
00:13:42.800 I had weird experiences growing up.
00:13:44.480 They informed my interests and then eventually it all led me here.
00:13:47.320 But I'm now wondering, like, do I go there just to experience sort of what I've been hearing
00:13:52.820 from a lot of people, which is that the church really drops the ball in this regard, which
00:13:57.660 is a strange place to drop the ball.
00:13:59.520 If you're having membership issues, nothing is more interesting, especially I would I would
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00:14:40.440 In my research, it seems that there's not a lot of emphasis on, you know, things like,
00:14:47.540 for example, the Nephilim, which I think is is great that we have Joel here because I kind
00:14:53.180 of wanted to get into this more or less a crash course on who the Nephilim were and evidence
00:15:02.740 for them having existed or maybe even still existing in modern day.
00:15:06.700 Yeah, absolutely.
00:15:09.240 If you guys are ready to get right into it, we can.
00:15:11.700 So, I mean, this is this is where I have a lot of fun.
00:15:14.640 So and along the way, any questions you guys have, ask away.
00:15:18.880 If I have the answers, cool.
00:15:20.340 If I don't, I'll just chalk it up to I don't know yet.
00:15:23.740 So, you know, we'll we'll go along with it.
00:15:27.160 But I always like to start with where the Nephilim are first spoke about.
00:15:31.880 The word Nephilim is in the Bible and it starts in Genesis six.
00:15:36.960 And we'll read a few verses so you guys know where the word Nephilim comes from.
00:15:40.840 And then I'll break down the etymology of what that word means.
00:15:43.860 And we'll even get into the Raphaim.
00:15:45.760 I'll talk about how that giants are talked about all through the Bible.
00:15:49.440 They just aren't always used as the word Nephilim.
00:15:52.180 There are several tribes of giants that are talked about pre-flood and after the flood, too.
00:15:57.520 So they do come back. So that's the whole basis of the Nephilim showing back up now, too,
00:16:03.520 because they're actually all through the Bible up until you get to the New Testament,
00:16:07.600 which is a whole different era because you're looking at a big gap of time between.
00:16:12.360 And I've got some theories on that, too.
00:16:14.180 But we'll definitely talk about how it starts.
00:16:17.880 It starts in Genesis six, one, when man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters are born to them.
00:16:24.340 The sons of God, which are fallen angels, by the way, because if you go into the context of the Hebrew,
00:16:30.340 what sons of God means, it means the literal angelic sons of God.
00:16:36.340 Some of the we were just talking about the dumbing down of the church.
00:16:40.440 They want to say that those were some sort of tribe of men that took these women and they defiled them.
00:16:47.040 They raped them. Right.
00:16:47.980 I don't necessarily think it was rape in the sense of they forcefully took these women.
00:16:54.240 I think these angelic creatures were so beautiful and so mesmerizing.
00:16:58.640 They basically hypnotized these women into having sex with them so they could create these Nephilim creatures or their own sons.
00:17:06.560 And we'll get to we'll get to some of that a little bit later, too.
00:17:09.260 Can I interject for a sec? Sure. Go ahead.
00:17:10.940 Timothy Albarino is along. He's along the line of thinking that that they it was a trade.
00:17:17.200 So technology for women and that kind of thing.
00:17:20.520 I dig on that as well.
00:17:21.840 And part of the Nephilim portal babies theory that I have does constitute that thought pattern, too.
00:17:28.160 And I'll talk about specific fallen angels that are talked about here after a while in the book of Enoch that taught men specific technologies in a trade to get access to these women.
00:17:41.920 But I don't think that these women, even though that they were served up by these men who wanted this technology, that they didn't want it.
00:17:48.740 Like or at least in some depraved way wanted it because of this hypnosis almost that these angelic beings could have put on them.
00:17:57.020 So I do think that shout out to Juan Ayala.
00:18:02.240 I just saw that.
00:18:03.480 Yeah, big shout out.
00:18:04.700 Big shout out, Juan Ayala.
00:18:06.600 So I do think that this there was a trade.
00:18:09.680 You're not wrong.
00:18:10.420 And Timothy Albarino is another one that's fantastic on a lot of these subjects, too.
00:18:14.400 So completely agree with you for sure.
00:18:18.080 So the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive and they they took as their wives any they chose.
00:18:25.520 Then the Lord said, my spirit shall not abide in man forever for his flesh.
00:18:29.240 His days shall be one hundred and twenty years.
00:18:31.400 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days and also afterward when the sons of God came into the daughters of man and they bore children to them.
00:18:39.080 These are the mighty men who are of old, the men of renown.
00:18:42.580 So that's our first introduction in the Bible to who the Nephilim are.
00:18:48.200 And some people, again, they're there.
00:18:51.280 And I'm going to get to the etymology here in a minute.
00:18:53.220 But the etymology can mean a few different things.
00:18:55.900 So there are some disparities in what some people think that the word Nephilim means.
00:19:00.900 But in most translations, it does translate over to giant.
00:19:06.760 So and the fact that there are so many giants that show up afterwards in different contexts, it just lends to the fact that this is how they were created.
00:19:16.120 They were created by fallen angels having sex with women and that these giants were produced after that.
00:19:22.540 You know, it's every time I start thinking about this particular moment, I can't help but draw correlations to all of these ancient deities that people worshipped over time.
00:19:39.520 One of the things that I talk about often is this correlation I stumbled upon between Baal and Zeus.
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00:20:13.880 And how it seems like this is an interchangeable character.
00:20:19.400 They were one in the same and that, you know, the Greek pantheon were actually the fallen.
00:20:27.320 And then you have, you know, this expression of the heroes of old when it comes to the Nephilim.
00:20:32.540 And that immediately brings to mind characters like Hercules.
00:20:36.040 And don't press me on anymore.
00:20:37.860 What's the other guy's name with the P?
00:20:40.640 He's the guy that slayed Medusa.
00:20:42.420 You got Poseidon.
00:20:43.600 And so with the Greek culture, which is fascinating, you've got this whoring goddess Gaia.
00:20:50.400 And she finds, and I say whoring because she's having sex with just like multiple gods like all the time and creating these demigods and creating these other gods.
00:20:58.940 So that's kind of how it starts with her in Greek culture, right?
00:21:02.440 So she's got this part-time mate in Tartarus, which you can connect Tartarus to the New Testament, which is Tartarus.
00:21:13.220 And then that also connects to Tartaree or Tartaria.
00:21:17.000 And I can go down a whole rabbit hole in how I think that that's all underground.
00:21:21.080 That I don't think any of that whole Tartaree psyop, and yeah, I said psyop, is real.
00:21:26.400 I think there's pieces of it that are, but I do not think that this was some sort of mass-level flood, these mud floods that happened.
00:21:36.120 Listen, mud floods happen all the time.
00:21:37.400 This isn't something that's not happening now.
00:21:39.880 I don't think it was a mass mud flood extinction-level event.
00:21:44.120 I do think giants were involved.
00:21:46.000 I think Tartaree may have existed on the maps underground.
00:21:50.300 I think maybe those maps, and I know that the translation over out east,
00:21:55.760 the translation for that is undiscovered land.
00:21:59.400 But I also think there's a level of maybe that this Tartaree existed underground in what some would consider hollow earth,
00:22:07.200 or maybe at least tunneling systems that happen underground.
00:22:10.540 And these giants who I think are underground right now,
00:22:14.040 I think they were coming out and they were causing some sort of destruction during this time.
00:22:19.280 So again, that's a whole other rabbit hole.
00:22:21.780 And I've talked about Tartaree many times before.
00:22:27.200 I just think that it's very similar to some of these other psyops that have popped up over the years
00:22:33.360 that catch a lot of wind, that catch a lot of steam, and everybody jumps on board with it.
00:22:38.340 One thing I'm very careful about, when something catches super, super hard and super fast,
00:22:43.700 and it becomes very polarizing, I'm like, who started it, really?
00:22:46.760 Like, there's probably elements to it that's true, very much like QAnon.
00:22:51.900 Like, there's a lot of truth coming out of that camp, but it's a psyop.
00:22:56.560 It's not real.
00:22:57.680 It's something that was manufactured by people behind the scenes to throw us off the trail.
00:23:03.540 And I personally believe that there are great elements to Tartaree,
00:23:08.240 but I don't think as a whole that that actually exists.
00:23:12.500 But that's just a little side note off on Tartaros.
00:23:17.080 But yeah, so Gaia has sex with Tartaros, creates Uranus, Pontus, Aurea.
00:23:22.920 You know, Uranus and the Cyclops had a large single eye in the middle of their forehead.
00:23:28.160 You've got Argus, Brontus, Steropus.
00:23:30.960 You've got Albion, which was fathered by Poseidon.
00:23:34.380 He was one of the titans.
00:23:35.500 So I believe that these Greek titans were, demigods were the Nephilim.
00:23:42.800 I think Gaia and some of these other ones were fallen angels that created these Nephilim.
00:23:48.400 And these were the stories that were passed down to the Greek culture.
00:23:52.120 I think this is when the Greeks got a hold of it and they were manipulated by fallen angels.
00:23:55.880 Like, okay, so this is the story that needs to be told, right?
00:23:59.020 Because Zeus isn't even the creator.
00:24:01.200 Even though we look at Zeus as being like the top of the echelon, he actually came later.
00:24:05.500 So Zeus wasn't even like the all creator.
00:24:08.200 There was an all creator that created this, which in actuality, when you look at who this creator in Greek culture mimics,
00:24:15.220 it actually mimics Abaddon or who we would call Satan in the biblical context.
00:24:20.820 So I think this is part of a deception that happened with Greek culture.
00:24:24.200 This is, here's the thing.
00:24:25.500 All these cultures mirror each other in a certain way.
00:24:27.780 The only issue that I have with some of these other pantheons is the pantheon of the gods.
00:24:33.440 You've got these pantheons that you're told to worship.
00:24:36.100 All that specifically says that you're only supposed to worship Yahweh, the one true creator.
00:24:41.100 But I also don't think that even the Bible speaks outside of context that there weren't other gods.
00:24:47.160 Because we know that in Psalms 82.1, it talks about Elohim judged the Elohim, that God judged the gods.
00:24:54.480 So we know there's some sort of divine counsel as well.
00:24:57.080 I just think it comes to what you believe in.
00:25:00.020 And at that point, you've got to make a decision, okay, do I live in a world where I think everything's fake?
00:25:07.180 All that happens that comes out of religion and everything else is fake, right?
00:25:11.800 We live in a matrix.
00:25:13.120 So at that point, why even care anymore?
00:25:15.940 Why even wake up in the morning if that's what you believe?
00:25:18.500 I think the matrix was created as a psyop to get us off the track of what we're supposed to believe in following an actual creator and understanding who that is.
00:25:28.360 Just a personal opinion.
00:25:29.320 Again, if people don't like it, that's cool.
00:25:32.700 No, I agree with you, man.
00:25:34.720 We kind of went into this territory with Juan right off the bat.
00:25:39.400 It was last week exactly when they did that stupid broadcast thing.
00:25:42.820 Hey, shout out to Juan.
00:25:43.380 Shout out to Juan again.
00:25:44.320 Yeah, I'm definitely not from a butthole homunculus.
00:25:47.280 What's up, Juan?
00:25:48.980 Yeah, like right off the bat, he doesn't really know us.
00:25:51.900 He doesn't know us at all, and I only know him from listening.
00:25:55.080 And they did the broadcast thing, and I was like, yo, some crazy shit happened to me.
00:25:58.860 And he kind of jumped on me.
00:26:00.020 He's like, listen, we're not doing fear porn here.
00:26:03.160 And I'm like, yeah, it really happened.
00:26:06.460 But I'm like, exactly that.
00:26:08.700 There's so much of this fear-mongering that they want to kind of bring you down with, but it's always interlaced with truth.
00:26:16.800 Like the matrix is like a possibly like interlaced with some true stories or at least like what you take away from it.
00:26:24.960 Right.
00:26:25.280 But the message overall is very blackpilling, right?
00:26:28.700 So you kind of have to get to this black belt level of like, I can listen to this stuff and then brush it off, use it for my knowledge, and keep moving.
00:26:36.780 Although I don't know how much I can actually do that.
00:26:39.400 Maybe I'm fooling myself that I can because I feel like maybe you're leaving a part of your spirit behind every time you do take part in these activities.
00:26:48.940 But like it's almost mandatory at this point, like if you want to figure out what's going on.
00:26:54.580 Yeah, no, absolutely, man.
00:26:56.380 And I'm very much against the fear porn narrative.
00:27:00.520 I don't like it.
00:27:01.460 I don't like it when I see people doing it and making money off of it.
00:27:04.900 You know, you got people that are shills that are making money off of fear porn and they know what they're doing.
00:27:09.520 But people are following them because they're worried about the end times.
00:27:13.080 Listen, God didn't put us here to not enjoy earth.
00:27:18.300 You know, what I really hate about Christianity is this whole narrative of we got to get to heaven because we don't want to go to hell.
00:27:25.360 And at the end of the day, that's not the purpose of Christianity or Yeshua.
00:27:32.760 The purpose is to have a relationship with him so you can connect to other people and we can live our best life here on earth.
00:27:40.160 Because guess what? Earth was created as our domain.
00:27:44.400 We're supposed to be taking care of it.
00:27:46.300 And we're so worried about what the government's doing and everything else that we lose sight of that.
00:27:51.800 And listen, it's fun to dig deep.
00:27:55.100 I have a blast doing it.
00:27:56.720 It's not for everybody.
00:27:58.000 Some people get going and they can't get out.
00:28:00.760 And they don't know how to decipher between what's a psyop, what's not a psyop.
00:28:04.840 And if you don't have that root grounding, in my opinion, in God, then you're just not going to be able to sift through that the right way.
00:28:14.580 Shout out to Juan again.
00:28:16.140 But Juan and I had talked off air on the phone recently and he said, sometimes, man, I'm reading certain books.
00:28:21.960 I got to put them down, man, and pray.
00:28:23.460 Because I know that this has got a deep, under-rooted occult hold to it.
00:28:31.220 And if I'm not careful, these things can attack me.
00:28:34.440 And I know personally from experience in my past of walking a path, trying to connect with the occult and achieving that,
00:28:42.940 and going down these roads, that these entities exist.
00:28:46.600 They will manifest you.
00:28:47.820 They will talk to you.
00:28:48.700 And it's got nothing to do with being on shrooms or whatever else.
00:28:52.400 In stone-cold sober state, they will show up.
00:28:58.260 If you're asking for them to show up and you've got something to offer, they're going to.
00:29:02.580 It's inevitable.
00:29:04.200 And I think that what we have to do in this space is be responsible on how we're trying to help people.
00:29:11.680 Because what I really, like, I'm really against this matrix narrative.
00:29:15.280 The more that I look into it, the more that I read about it, I actually despise it.
00:29:19.820 Because it is absolutely set up to keep us away from God.
00:29:23.220 There's just no way it's not.
00:29:24.580 Because at that point, you are manipulated from birth.
00:29:28.260 Which we are.
00:29:29.380 Essentially, there are a lot of quote-unquote matrixes that are created to keep us off our God-given path.
00:29:37.160 Absolutely.
00:29:37.600 We've got the media, we've got the Rockefellers who have owned education system since 100 years ago.
00:29:46.980 We know these are matrices.
00:29:48.560 These are your real matrices.
00:29:50.380 The Operation Mockingbirds, those are your real matrices.
00:29:54.020 I just don't think we're in a matrix where we're in a video game and somebody's manipulating us that we don't have any control over.
00:30:01.260 I don't agree with that.
00:30:02.200 Yeah, I, you know, I'm sorry, Top, this idea of the matrix and how it's a black-pilled kind of a thing, but it, like Top was saying, does have elements that you can draw from where you can find bits of truth in there.
00:30:17.160 And I think that people need to keep in mind that in order to construct the best lie, you have to maintain a close parallel to the truth.
00:30:27.820 And then there's only key aspects of that that you sort of bastardize.
00:30:30.840 So this idea that we are in this realm that was, you know, that there's a creator and a purpose to it all.
00:30:37.880 Well, yeah, we already had that.
00:30:39.280 You know, this simulation theory thing is, it's like if somebody took Christianity or Catholicism and they just wrung everything out of it and shook it out and just gave you this, like, kind of empty napkin where it's, like, sort of, the structure is still there, but it's been homogenized and sterilized and all of the value has been wrung out of it.
00:30:59.960 I don't really have these black pill moments anymore.
00:31:03.640 I think people that are going through that are...
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00:31:32.160 I'm sort of, like, new to the dance because I do think that the black pill is something that maybe you do kind of go through.
00:31:42.540 Like, when you start to peel the layers back on everything and you start to see that the world around you doesn't make sense and you're finding explanations that key in but are not going along with the general consensus, you do start to feel...
00:31:55.400 I was uncovering this trail when I was a teenager and I guess I was, I forget, but I was black pilled as a teenager.
00:32:03.920 I thought any day they were going to convert my local Walmart to a FEMA camp and shit was going to hit the fan.
00:32:10.960 And I, dude, I was, like, really, really tight about it.
00:32:14.180 And I remember going to all my friends.
00:32:15.940 I was that psycho.
00:32:16.720 I was, like, 17 years old telling all my friends that, like, fluoride is corroding their pineal gland and, you know, any day now, World War III is going to pop out.
00:32:25.880 Shout out to Juan Ayala.
00:32:27.520 Real quick, shout out to Juan.
00:32:29.460 But, yeah, you know, I do think that maybe what we're seeing now with this epidemic of black pilling, especially on the social media sites, is people who just kind of got to the dance.
00:32:40.040 Yeah, it's like white belts.
00:32:40.620 And it's overwhelming.
00:32:41.980 Yeah.
00:32:42.100 Yeah, it's adults.
00:32:42.960 And, dude, I feel a lot of empathy for people that are just starting to discover you can lose your mind as a kid and bounce back.
00:32:50.320 It's much harder to lose your mind as a 30-something-year-old father, husband, you know, somebody with a business.
00:32:56.840 I mean, I couldn't even have imagined trying to keep my hands on the steering wheel of something like a business while I was discovering all of the things that, you know, are being sort of talked about now in these spaces.
00:33:09.100 I want to address this super chat real quick.
00:33:11.340 Like, this is my realm here.
00:33:14.640 For years, black pilled in, like, the political space.
00:33:18.240 Because once you really understand how this political system works and operates, it's pretty easy to say, wow, there's really no fixing this shit unless you want to, like, completely destroy it.
00:33:27.560 And then what will you put in, what will you rebuild in its path?
00:33:30.420 And then you go down to narco capitalism.
00:33:32.060 There's not really good answers to that question there.
00:33:34.400 Then monarchy and all this nonsense.
00:33:36.220 I decided the best approach is comedy, man.
00:33:41.320 Like, I can joke about stuff but tell you the truth and hopefully not drive you crazy at the same time.
00:33:49.240 Like, you got to laugh at this world.
00:33:51.480 It's gone completely mad.
00:33:52.860 But you also have to understand it so you can navigate it correctly.
00:33:56.080 But if you sit there and take these things very seriously, like, oh my god, Joe Biden.
00:34:00.000 Joe Biden cut funding to the border wall.
00:34:02.560 Now he's funding the border wall again.
00:34:04.400 And now he's funding Israel.
00:34:06.720 But now he's not.
00:34:07.620 And now he's giving money.
00:34:08.600 You know what, dude?
00:34:09.220 And they're going to do this shit anyway, man.
00:34:11.640 Like I said, kind of, like, enjoy the show.
00:34:13.480 Pay attention to what's going on so you can navigate correctly.
00:34:16.140 But understand that this is all, like, weird Nephilim shit.
00:34:21.100 This is stuff beyond our power.
00:34:23.220 Understand what you can.
00:34:24.720 Focus on the spiritual.
00:34:26.160 I would say focus on the spiritual and the things that are going to affect you.
00:34:30.840 But also see what's going on.
00:34:32.700 If there's a war in Israel, maybe you want to, you know, move some money around or start to, you know, do some stuff in the home front to figure out how you might be affected.
00:34:43.500 Yeah, you're right.
00:34:44.580 And look for solutions.
00:34:46.060 You know, not ranting and raving all the time about what's happening.
00:34:50.360 That's not doing anybody any good.
00:34:52.380 It's one thing to wake people up.
00:34:54.280 But, again, you can't wake people up that don't want to be woke up either.
00:34:57.200 So you got to stop getting mad about that.
00:34:58.860 And letting those people go.
00:35:01.220 You can still be friends with them.
00:35:02.280 You can still connect with them.
00:35:03.300 They're family members.
00:35:04.080 Nothing wrong with that.
00:35:05.220 Your goal isn't to wake those people up.
00:35:06.940 I think that's what we have to start realizing, too.
00:35:09.980 That if somebody's ready to hear something, there's one thing about dropping breadcrumbs here and there to pique people's interest.
00:35:17.500 It might be something that they're talking about that you can say, hey, you know, you ever thought about it this way?
00:35:24.200 Oh, I never did.
00:35:25.040 Yeah, just, you know, think about it.
00:35:26.700 Walk off.
00:35:27.620 Let it go.
00:35:28.180 Let it simmer.
00:35:28.860 Let that seed grow over the next few months.
00:35:32.000 And maybe they want to, and they're starting to pay attention, like, hey, man, something's not right here.
00:35:35.840 Here, let me help you out.
00:35:36.980 You just don't want to come busting out reptilians off the rip when you meet somebody that's not open-minded to that.
00:35:43.860 You want to hit them with something probably a little more geopolitical in that realm, at least something they can understand tangibly, like money and power.
00:35:51.920 Once you can hit somebody with something like that, they're a little more understanding to then maybe a year or two down the road.
00:36:00.320 You're hitting them with reptilians and zeta reticulans and all this other stuff, right?
00:36:07.500 You can go all draconians, all that.
00:36:10.260 You can get into all that later.
00:36:11.580 But most people aren't ready to do that out the gate, not unless they've had some sort of paranormal experience.
00:36:16.800 And they just know, like, man, I know I saw something crazy.
00:36:20.240 At that point, they're wide open.
00:36:22.200 They're ready to go.
00:36:23.220 But I do think that we have to be understanding with people.
00:36:27.500 And we don't need to just look at people like sheep because we're doing no better than what the governments and elite do to us.
00:36:34.320 We're dehumanizing others.
00:36:36.120 We're dehumanizing people who we think are on our level.
00:36:40.520 And what does that make us?
00:36:41.940 We have an elite mindset now.
00:36:43.920 And that's something I'm seeing a lot of in the truther community.
00:36:47.140 Everybody's got the real truth.
00:36:49.280 You know, that's something that just one that's really mind-blowing to me is flat earth.
00:36:56.500 Flat earthers will never, never acknowledge the fact that they could be wrong.
00:37:01.700 That's the thing that irritates me.
00:37:03.240 And it's okay you've done all this research and you have this belief system.
00:37:07.720 I have no issue with that.
00:37:09.280 But the issue I have is that you can't be wrong.
00:37:12.480 And you want to get so mad that you want to punch somebody in the face.
00:37:16.160 I've heard podcasters say that on air.
00:37:18.920 I'll punch somebody in the face if they don't believe in flat earth.
00:37:21.240 That's ridiculous.
00:37:22.240 That is counterproductive to what you're trying to do in the first place.
00:37:25.940 So to me, you have to look at those aspects when you're trying to break theories out.
00:37:32.160 These are all theories.
00:37:34.020 Until you've gone up high enough to touch the firmament and you've gone far enough across in Antarctica to see the ice wall for yourself.
00:37:42.200 You cannot tell me for a fact that that's true.
00:37:44.960 It's not.
00:37:45.720 It's just not.
00:37:46.980 And I'm not sitting here saying that I have all the facts.
00:37:49.780 Because I don't.
00:37:50.840 I'm wrong more often than not as I'm seeking the truth because I'm constantly finding where,
00:37:55.740 Oh man, I dug a little deeper.
00:37:57.040 This is a little bit more different than I thought.
00:37:59.120 I've changed my mind.
00:37:59.920 The Anunnaki, I used to think that the Anunnaki were Nephilim.
00:38:04.240 I do not believe that now because the deeper research that I did, I believe the Anunnaki were fallen angels.
00:38:10.040 I think that they created the Agigi.
00:38:12.140 They created these Nephilim.
00:38:14.020 They created the pre-Adamite man.
00:38:15.740 That's what I believe now.
00:38:17.880 But that took me time.
00:38:18.980 I had to do research and do digging.
00:38:20.820 And I'm very quick to say if I'm wrong about something.
00:38:23.040 I think in this space you have to be more often than not ready to say that you're wrong about something than just holding on to some ideology because it's, you watch three documentaries and that's the truth.
00:38:36.240 Can you tell us more about the pre-Adamite men?
00:38:38.900 Because that's something that I've thought about but never really looked much into.
00:38:43.840 Yeah, so I did like a two and a half hour special on the confessionals called Old Earth and Lucifer's Domain.
00:38:52.160 So I do talk about pre-Adamite man.
00:38:54.820 So there's a lot of verses in the Bible that allude to the fact that the earth is billions of years old, which I personally think that it is.
00:39:04.520 I don't believe in the 6,000 year narrative.
00:39:07.440 I just don't think that the Bible even states that.
00:39:09.880 The first two verses in the Bible is what they call the gap theory between those two verses.
00:39:16.940 It says God created the heavens and the earth.
00:39:19.320 But then it says the earth was without form and void.
00:39:22.600 So none of that makes sense when you're looking at it for the context of he created it.
00:39:27.200 Well, he always creates something perfectly.
00:39:29.140 Well, why is it in the second verse that it's without form and void, which in the Hebrew is tohu v'abohu,
00:39:36.940 which means to tear something up.
00:39:41.740 Essentially, tohu v'abohu would be if I just tore all these books up behind me.
00:39:45.320 They were put together perfectly behind me, but then I tore it up.
00:39:49.020 That's what tohu v'abohu means.
00:39:51.300 That's what that particular verse means.
00:39:55.440 It was made formless and void is what it means.
00:39:59.240 So there's proof in the Bible itself that there is a massive gap of time that God didn't really think it was very imperative for us to know about.
00:40:07.800 Like it's not in the context of our relationship, our walk with him.
00:40:11.060 It's not that important.
00:40:12.040 So I believe that when you start looking at extracurricular biblical texts, when you start digging into Sumerian lore
00:40:19.560 and you start looking at some of these other ancillary tablets and books, you start being able to piece a little bit of that together.
00:40:28.900 And at the end of the day, guys, I could be dead wrong.
00:40:31.480 I could be wrong about all of it.
00:40:32.760 But I do know I do a lot of research and I really like the correlation between the Agigi, which were the first creation of the from the Sumerians.
00:40:46.800 They were created to build waterways, to do all the slave labor.
00:40:52.100 I know people attribute to the finding gold, but they were before Adam and the Adamites.
00:40:56.680 They were before that, but they ended up rebelling.
00:40:59.320 And to me, there's a really cool correlation there between Cain and the Bible when he kills Abel and he gets basically kicked out and told by God to leave.
00:41:12.980 Well, God puts a mark on him so others will not harm him.
00:41:16.580 He's scared to go out into the world.
00:41:18.960 Why is Cain scared?
00:41:20.160 He's scared about people that are already out there.
00:41:24.260 So you've got Adam, Eve, Cain, and Abel.
00:41:26.980 That's it.
00:41:27.400 Cain kills Abel and now he's scared about others killing him.
00:41:33.400 So God curses him and basically whatever you try to grow, it's not going to happen.
00:41:38.220 That's why he becomes a great builder.
00:41:40.020 And that's where the Brotherhood of the Snake, which was the precursor of Freemasonry, happens when he and his son Enoch, not Enoch that walked with God and Seth's bloodline, which was seven generations down.
00:41:53.620 But this was the first Enoch, which was Cain's son, and he and his son build.
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00:42:25.800 Magic number 66 cities.
00:42:30.480 So how did they build all these cities, just the two of them?
00:42:34.660 And even if Cain was to take a couple of wives from the lineage of Adam and Eve, say a couple sisters, the amount of time it would take to produce enough children to build 66 cities, and even with the help of fallen entities, the Nephilim weren't there yet.
00:42:58.380 So this happened seven generations down.
00:43:00.800 This is closer to the deluge.
00:43:03.240 So I believe, and I like to use the word agigi when I'm speaking about pre-Adamite man, because I think that is a very cool term that was used in Sumerian lore, that I think there was a pre-Adamite man that was before Tohu Vabohu, before Formless and Void.
00:43:21.720 I think maybe they got away either underneath the earth, in a hollow earth, or through portaling systems into another dimension where fallen angels were able to usher them there and then bring them back later.
00:43:33.580 So I think all these are wide open possibilities, but I do think that there was a pre-Adamite man that was very close to what mankind or Adam and Eve were later on.
00:43:45.620 Let me ask you one thing.
00:43:47.980 So you said that the Nephilim came after, they came for like seven generations after Cain.
00:43:57.760 Okay.
00:43:58.040 Because there's the, tell the theory, David, about what Paul says.
00:44:02.100 About what, who says?
00:44:06.320 Paul the, yeah.
00:44:07.620 Okay, so there's a guy named Paul.
00:44:11.960 He's got a show on YouTube, shout out to Paul, called Understanding Conspiracy.
00:44:16.120 Shout out to Paul and Juan.
00:44:17.740 Shout out to Paul and Juan.
00:44:18.980 Shout out to Juan.
00:44:19.420 And he's got a great series and a really excellent, well-researched theory on the idea that the modern day visage of the clown is actually a sort of homage to the Nephilim.
00:44:35.840 And the way he draws those correlations is through the mark of Cain, right?
00:44:42.560 So I'm not well versed in the Bible, but it's my understanding that there was a mark that was put upon Cain so that, like you were talking about, he doesn't get murdered for the crime that he's committed.
00:44:53.100 And that mark, the way that Paul interprets it, is a sort of pale skin.
00:45:00.200 And he connects that with also the idea that the Nephilim had sort of this fiery red hair.
00:45:08.160 And then he goes into the connections with the Seraphim and what their skin supposedly looked like.
00:45:15.040 It was, you know, that it had this sort of reptilian aspect to it.
00:45:18.520 Even the red makeup around the mouth is done to enlarge the mouth, to make it look bigger than it actually is.
00:45:27.060 The red nose is because the Nephilim were essentially cannibals and fed on human beings.
00:45:34.120 And so it was supposed to kind of create this almost bloody image.
00:45:37.220 They also have these oftentimes, especially when you see Pennywise.
00:45:41.400 Pennywise is kind of a perfect example of it.
00:45:44.520 He's got these lines of blue.
00:45:47.400 And what it's supposed to be, they go across his eyes.
00:45:49.740 And it's supposed to sort of be a depiction of a reptilian eye.
00:45:53.960 You know how they have slitted eyes.
00:45:55.640 And so even down to the shoes where they're wearing these gigantic goofy shoes or gigantic clown-like gloves, right, where their hands look bigger.
00:46:04.240 It is to emphasize the size of these creatures.
00:46:08.860 They'll even hold little tiny umbrellas.
00:46:11.540 Another one meant to emphasize the actual scale of these beings.
00:46:17.040 And I'm telling you, man, I mean, he lays it out in such a compelling way.
00:46:21.200 We did like a two and a half hour podcast and we could have kept going.
00:46:23.920 And I really think Paul is on to something.
00:46:27.340 But he's saying that the timelines don't match.
00:46:29.840 This is the interesting part.
00:46:31.360 You're saying that that came much further.
00:46:33.480 Like if the Nephilim came after Cain, then it wouldn't make sense for the people, the pre-Adamite people there to be fearful of the appearance that God would have put on.
00:46:43.340 And that's what – I'm not trying to call anyone.
00:46:45.680 I'm just trying to make – because it's such a great theory.
00:46:47.560 But like if the timelines don't match, then –
00:46:50.060 I've heard some of the theory.
00:46:51.160 And I haven't had time to delve into it myself to really put together his timelines and what he said.
00:46:56.900 And I don't want to speak on it like that.
00:46:58.780 And I do think just from the few people that have told me about this theory, there's probably some truth to it.
00:47:05.200 Or at least it makes sense in some sphere, right?
00:47:07.260 But one of the things that I think is a misnomer with people in Nephilim, that they looked one specific way, and there's proof throughout different cultures that there were different races of Nephilim.
00:47:16.980 And I say race loosely as far as the color of skin.
00:47:20.480 We know that in South America there were darker-skinned Nephilim.
00:47:23.680 So it's not just like they were red-headed, pale-skinned, or blonde hair either.
00:47:29.160 Throughout the world, there were different versions of Nephilim.
00:47:32.340 We can also say that there were versions of Nephilim that were cryptids.
00:47:35.260 The Moabites in the Bible were lion men.
00:47:37.700 They had lion heads, and David and his mighty men fought these Moabites.
00:47:43.000 So this is another version of Nephilim.
00:47:46.780 There's so many different ones throughout history that we can talk about that aren't just a specific Nephilim.
00:47:54.520 Now, if we're talking about the originators, see, one thing I want to be real careful about.
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00:48:28.520 Biblically, it's saying that someone's skin was cursed and turned a different color.
00:48:34.860 Because then we have to start getting into race theory.
00:48:39.300 And now we're going to say, okay, well, if his skin was cursed and he turned white, well, then what was he?
00:48:45.860 Now we're lending into the Black Israelite theory, which I think is the Black version of the KKK.
00:48:53.740 And that's my personal opinion.
00:48:55.500 So now we have to be very careful about what we're talking about when it comes to people's, the color of their skin changing.
00:49:03.760 And I've talked to Gary Wayne on air, and he has talked about there were many cultures that talk about Giants and Nephilim that were of all color varieties.
00:49:15.080 So I don't know.
00:49:17.320 Again, let me look into it and get back to you guys.
00:49:21.360 I know it's a hot one right now, and everybody's on the clown Nephilim.
00:49:25.400 Could be some great truth to it.
00:49:27.080 I hear the guy's phenomenal.
00:49:28.120 Again, I don't know him, and I haven't heard him break down the theory the way that he has.
00:49:34.400 And I'm sure he's got some biblical proof to it that he can map out.
00:49:39.280 But again, we're just in a space cooking up theories, guys.
00:49:42.440 Like, we're trying to figure out what happened in the past.
00:49:45.280 You know, at the end of the day, none of us really know.
00:49:48.340 We're just speaking our truth.
00:49:49.880 And then we have the right, a week, a year, however far they're along from now, to change our minds with the evidence of other digging and research.
00:50:01.820 I don't know about you guys, but I'm super racist against Nephilim.
00:50:06.700 And I think we could say that.
00:50:08.880 Can we say that?
00:50:09.760 Are we allowed to say that?
00:50:10.620 I'm allowed to say that.
00:50:11.920 I don't give a shit.
00:50:13.080 I don't know if I'm allowed to say it.
00:50:14.520 Joel's definitely not allowed to say it.
00:50:15.600 It's getting way too late.
00:50:16.400 But, you know, you were talking before, Joel, about this.
00:50:19.620 And I want to ask you a question.
00:50:21.400 But first, I want to get this out of the way.
00:50:22.560 It's like we're going to be wrong sometimes.
00:50:26.440 And this idea that there is this hierarchy of, like, people in the truth or community that swear that they've got it pinned down.
00:50:34.400 And then if you deviate from that, there's, like, real arguments laying out ahead of you.
00:50:39.020 You know, you're going to have some harsh words with some people.
00:50:41.160 And I just want people to know that when you've been looking at this sort of thing for, you know, not to toot my own horn, but as long as I have.
00:50:49.600 It's been, like, 16 years.
00:50:51.240 You know how much I was wrong?
00:50:53.020 I was wrong so many.
00:50:54.480 I fell for so many things.
00:50:56.740 So I'm never going to stand up here and, you know, claim to know the definitive truth about something.
00:51:03.040 Right.
00:51:03.320 And I think people need to kind of shake that off, that rigidity off of them in order to be able to have conversations like this and then hopefully maybe one day end up at something that at least, you know, closely resembles the truth.
00:51:15.740 Um, I want to ask you about specifically Noah, the reason for the flood, how it relates to the Nephilim, and then these theories that they – because I was actually asked this today, and I'm biblically illiterate for the most part.
00:51:34.200 So I just didn't have the time to do the research and respond to them.
00:51:38.240 And so hopefully they watch this because I'm never going to tweet back at them.
00:51:40.920 But what is the evidence for them having survived the flood?
00:51:45.940 And also, where is the evidence for the flood being in great deal due to their presence and corrupting of mankind?
00:51:53.220 Okay, cool.
00:51:53.840 So that kind of gets me back to the beginning where I was – before we derailed, and not in a bad way, guys, because this happens on podcasts all the time.
00:52:00.900 And I use derail in a great way.
00:52:02.720 If you're on a podcast with me, I'm going to derail all day long.
00:52:05.640 It's fun.
00:52:06.120 Yeah, but it's going to happen.
00:52:07.040 It's like – it's a derail, man.
00:52:09.000 It's the whole train crash.
00:52:09.900 Yeah, I just – it's a train crash.
00:52:12.900 Yeah, very much so.
00:52:15.180 So Nephilim was also brought up again in Numbers 13, 32, and 33, where 10 of the 12 spies came back from when Moses sent them into the Promised Land.
00:52:27.520 So at this point, they've left the Egyptians.
00:52:30.920 This is after the parting of the Red Sea.
00:52:32.620 This is after the Ten Commandments.
00:52:34.020 They are at the Promised Land.
00:52:35.440 Moses has sent them in there to scout it out.
00:52:39.900 For, like, I think it was 40 days.
00:52:41.740 Then come back and give him, you know, the knowledge.
00:52:44.640 Like, hey, how do we need to take this land back?
00:52:46.500 How do we need to take our land back?
00:52:48.960 Well, where the 10 of the 12 spies report that they have seen fearsome giants in Canaan.
00:52:54.460 And there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, who come of the Nephilim, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.
00:53:03.660 So 10 of the 12 spies outside of Joshua and Caleb who were, like, all about it.
00:53:08.940 They're like, man, we got the power of God, man.
00:53:10.160 We can go take them.
00:53:10.920 I don't care.
00:53:11.420 Like, they saw these giants who were massive.
00:53:13.740 They were ready to go, but the other 12 were scared.
00:53:17.020 So that actually put Israel in the desert for 40 years until everybody that didn't want to go in there died off.
00:53:25.900 And there was a whole new generation that came after that.
00:53:28.720 And in these 40 years, Joshua and Caleb still survived all that because they were supposed to, and they actually lead the charge to go back in there and take out all these giants.
00:53:37.220 This is after the Flood.
00:53:39.260 This is after the Flood that the Nephilim show back up.
00:53:42.700 So we're talking about the sons of Anak, the Anakim, Anakin from Star Wars.
00:53:49.040 A lot of these names play into ancient gods in Nephilim even in our pop culture today.
00:53:55.760 So the Nephilim were said to have a lot of different abilities very similar to their fathers.
00:54:02.800 Some were said to have shapeshift, psychic abilities, and psionic abilities were very normal for them.
00:54:10.620 Opening portals was, you know, nothing.
00:54:13.720 You know, a couple sigils in there moving across the earth through ley lines like it's nothing.
00:54:18.240 They learned this from their fathers.
00:54:20.220 So Nephilim were especially like the first generation, which were said to be in the 30 to 40 foot range.
00:54:27.140 Those are like the original Nephilim that were said to be in that range.
00:54:31.180 Now, after the Flood, you typically see ones more in that 10 foot to 18 foot range.
00:54:38.540 Like Goliath was more in the 11 foot, 12 foot range than the previous Nephilim, which you see more of the word Raphaim and some of these other names for giants after the Flood.
00:54:51.580 So these were kind of like the watered down.
00:54:53.660 I say the watered down version, you know, 18 feet's not watered down in my opinion.
00:54:57.740 But it's still watered down from what this first generation was.
00:55:01.800 So from what I've understood, there's a couple of ways these giants could have come back after the Flood.
00:55:07.360 Because the Flood was created to wipe out anything that wasn't of God.
00:55:15.860 Because these fallen entities wanted to disrupt everything.
00:55:18.720 In the Book of Jasher, it talks about the fallen angels having sex with animals to even disrupt those lineages from what God created as well.
00:55:27.260 So these fallen entities are just trying to disrupt it all.
00:55:31.880 Oddly enough, in the Book of Giants, which is a Dead Sea Scrolls, part of the Dead Sea Scrolls that were unearthed,
00:55:39.480 they are a lot of times lumped in with the Book of Enoch, the first Book of Enoch.
00:55:42.880 Like, so Mahaway and Gilgamesh come to Enoch because they know he walks with God.
00:55:49.440 They're having these dreams about this deluge, this flood coming, and it's going to kill them.
00:55:53.660 So they go to Enoch because he's like the only one walking on the face of the earth that he thinks is going to be able to give them what they need to know.
00:55:59.280 So he's like, all right, listen, I'm going to go talk to God, and I'll come back to you.
00:56:02.220 So he actually comes back to him, and he says, listen, yeah, there's a flood coming.
00:56:05.520 But if you turn to God, then you'll be saved.
00:56:09.020 So even the giants were offered salvation from God himself.
00:56:13.800 So that just lets you know the encompassing love that God has for anything.
00:56:19.520 But listen, if you were a giant, it's not like you chose to be born that way.
00:56:23.100 It's not like, you know, like, man, I was born a giant.
00:56:26.480 But typically these giants were very bloodthirsty, were a lot like their fathers.
00:56:30.940 I mean, listen, they grew up with fallen angels as their fathers.
00:56:33.620 They grew up in this mentality, and I like to believe maybe there was a few that just weren't having it at some point.
00:56:38.700 Maybe they were a rebellious son or daughter that were just like, man, no, I'm going to go this other way.
00:56:43.980 It's a possibility, right?
00:56:45.120 Everything's on the table.
00:56:45.880 I don't want to eat these humans anymore, Dad.
00:56:48.500 Right, right.
00:56:50.100 So shut up and eat the humans.
00:56:52.220 Go to your giant room.
00:56:54.360 So in saying that, the ones that didn't, everybody that didn't, they were wiped out by this deluge.
00:57:01.980 You know, when it says that Noah was perfect in God's eyes, they were not talking about him in his walk with God, in his spirituality.
00:57:11.260 They were talking about his DNA.
00:57:12.980 His DNA was untainted because from his line, which moves into the bloodline of David, was where Yeshua was coming to save us in the future.
00:57:21.540 So that needed to be an untainted bloodline that they came from.
00:57:25.220 So that was the point of the flood, was to put these people on the ark to then, after the flood, for that bloodline to continue.
00:57:33.800 Now, we know after the flood, these giants show back up.
00:57:36.460 How did this happen?
00:57:37.520 Well, I've heard several theologians speculate on a myriad of different ways that this is possible.
00:57:43.420 One, a second incursion.
00:57:45.800 There could have been a new group of fallen angels that came afterwards and had sex with females again and created this new incursion of giants.
00:57:55.020 My only pushback a little bit on that is the fact that we don't see these typical, just ridiculous sized giants after the flood.
00:58:03.920 It's this new group, this Raphaim, this whole new kind of genre that comes out of after the flood.
00:58:12.480 So for me, maybe.
00:58:15.100 I'm not saying it's off the table, but I do know that the first group got penalized for it.
00:58:19.640 They got thrown in a lake of fire until the end times in Revelation where they're released.
00:58:24.880 So at the end of the day, that's when I think that those angels will be released, and that's according to the book of Revelation.
00:58:32.660 But here's the other theory that I like a lot.
00:58:36.720 That there were underground systems, whether by portal or interdimensional spaces that fallen angels occupy,
00:58:43.900 and they were able to move these giants and move whatever else that they were creating chimera.
00:58:49.720 We know that chimera existed during these times.
00:58:51.760 They were splicing DNA left and right.
00:58:53.340 So why wouldn't they move some of these creatures and some of these things to these interdimensional spaces or these interdimensional worlds to then bring back and then maybe start procreating?
00:59:02.580 And maybe that's why that these.
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00:59:30.480 Which Raphaim were a little bit more of a watered-down version of what the Nephilim were pre-flood.
00:59:40.700 You know what's kind of spooky to me?
00:59:44.420 And this is going to sound very eugenicist, but it seems like the bloodline thing is very important to God, at least biblically.
00:59:53.100 And these days, every time I look around, there's an open campaign about diversity going on.
00:59:58.060 And I was like, is there something more important to this bloodline?
01:00:00.600 Again, I'm not getting into this far-right territory, but it's something for me to think about and really chew on.
01:00:07.220 Because I'm stepping on some toes here, and this is a dangerous thought.
01:00:11.920 As I'm saying it, I'm like, this is putting me in Christopher Cantwell territory.
01:00:16.440 But I'd like to think it, because something is going on here.
01:00:19.980 What are they telling us?
01:00:21.180 What should we be protecting?
01:00:22.300 What's actually important?
01:00:23.760 We're not really sure.
01:00:24.800 Or I'm not really sure.
01:00:27.720 I don't know.
01:00:27.960 Well, you know, they say that RH negative is supposedly the bloodline that is super connected to Nephilim bloodlines.
01:00:33.560 So most people that are RH negative have some super close affinity to the paranormal in a myriad of different ways.
01:00:42.300 So I know that has, again, talked about by several theologians.
01:00:47.360 But here's a thought, too, that when Yeshua came, he didn't come just to save the Jews.
01:00:54.060 He came to save the Gentiles as well.
01:00:55.780 And I think at some point, like, we've all been kind of tainted throughout history in some way.
01:01:00.380 We don't know how.
01:01:01.420 We don't know how that is.
01:01:02.820 And that's why I think there's not a definitive, like, oh, this race is better than another race.
01:01:07.720 Now, I do think that there are organizations at work that want to keep us fighting each other.
01:01:14.260 Because, again, racism keeps our eyes off the ball on what's really going on, which is classism.
01:01:19.860 And classism is the elites versus us.
01:01:24.700 And if you look at elites throughout history, they have been every color possible.
01:01:29.020 It does not exist in space where elites were not working with each other.
01:01:34.000 If you see them now, you would know globally that there are elites in every part of the world that are all connected together and working together.
01:01:41.580 This whole narrative of somebody's race being better than someone else's or they're the God's chosen people, which I absolutely despise right now.
01:01:50.140 Because, one, people who say that their race is God's chosen people, how do you know?
01:01:54.840 How can you track your line back enough to know that that is an absolute fact?
01:01:59.500 You don't.
01:02:00.400 And there's no way you can possibly tell me that.
01:02:02.840 And I'm not going to adhere to that.
01:02:04.360 Because I don't think that that's why God wanted us here was to fight over what we look like at all.
01:02:10.980 Only the elites want us to do that.
01:02:12.680 That's the racism that I've been beating the drum on since Saturday.
01:02:15.860 Because I'm very much a shit poster on Twitter.
01:02:19.160 If you follow me on there, I've gained quite the following saying things that people aren't supposed to say.
01:02:23.720 But one of the things that bothers me the most is, like you said, the God's chosen people kind of thing.
01:02:30.020 And I just tweeted the other day or yesterday or today.
01:02:32.540 I don't even know.
01:02:33.660 I said, these aren't the same Jews that we're talking about in the Bible.
01:02:37.400 Just to see what people were thinking.
01:02:39.560 And you know what?
01:02:39.980 A lot of people were like, yeah, probably not.
01:02:42.180 Because number one, who knows?
01:02:44.360 Number two, would they, I don't know.
01:02:47.060 Would they be acting like this?
01:02:48.220 Like a lot of these things that have been going on.
01:02:50.580 I don't want to forget it.
01:02:52.100 Go back to what we're talking about.
01:02:53.260 I'm not moving to geopolitics.
01:02:54.940 Just a side note.
01:02:56.280 And I'm going to slide this one in.
01:02:57.400 And then we'll jump off of it and get back on this ancient Nephilim stuff.
01:03:01.140 And this does tie into Nephilim as well.
01:03:03.580 What people think are the Jews, are the Kazarian Mafia, who has been in power for a long time in Ukraine and a lot of these other areas.
01:03:15.880 And this power, these bloodlines, are coming from Nephilim bloodlines.
01:03:22.900 These Rothschilds, they are not Jewish.
01:03:25.780 They want you to believe that they are.
01:03:27.580 Because when the Kazarian Mafia started getting, we use mafia loosely, but the Kazarian tribes, when they took over that area of land, they needed a religion.
01:03:38.260 And they brought three religions before them.
01:03:41.080 They brought Judaism.
01:03:43.140 They brought Christianity.
01:03:44.480 And they brought Islam before them.
01:03:46.440 Well, they realized if they picked Christianity or Islam, they'd be fighting the other.
01:03:49.940 But they knew if they picked Judaism, that it would be the perfect blanket for them to hide behind.
01:03:54.100 And then they shifted into this being Jewish.
01:03:56.640 I mean, there's even thought patterns and some levels of truth that, we'll just say, a ruler of Germany at one time was actually from this Rothschild bloodline, too.
01:04:09.880 That he was actually implemented into power to facilitate this.
01:04:13.860 And he was actually what people would consider a Jew.
01:04:16.580 And he hid behind this elite blanket of who he really was.
01:04:25.540 And there's, there's, but this all comes from the Nephilim.
01:04:28.780 These bloodlines, when they are passed down through the Kazarian Mafia and whoever else in these elites, elite bloodlines, you know, 13 bloodlines, people say they typically say the 13 bloodlines or reptilian.
01:04:41.680 I don't believe that at all.
01:04:42.620 I think these are Nephilim bloodlines.
01:04:45.060 I think these come from, here's the thing.
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01:05:13.160 Why do they think they're better than us?
01:05:17.980 It's not because they have more money and power.
01:05:20.100 It's because they literally come from the gods, or at least they believe that they come from the gods.
01:05:26.220 These fallen angels, the blood of ISIS is what they call it.
01:05:30.220 This genealogy of ISIS.
01:05:32.780 So I think that this is why they believe that, because they believe they're better than us because they are of the gods.
01:05:40.060 I was just about to ask you too, you answered it before I asked you, this idea that these elite families are of the Nephilim bloodline or of Nephilim descent, which is why there's so much inbreeding within these families.
01:05:58.120 And it's why they separate us with trivial things like race or class or religion, whatever it is, because the real issue is a DNA issue, a bloodline issue.
01:06:13.080 It's the reason that Noah and his family were preserved.
01:06:16.840 And it's the same fight that is continued all the way till modern day, excuse me.
01:06:24.040 And these big, you know, Rothschilds or Rockefellers, things of that nature.
01:06:30.380 Is it your contention that these elite family bloodlines are of Nephilim descent?
01:06:36.460 They are or they're protecting it, because I think that the real elites, we don't even know who they are.
01:06:43.720 I really think that the Rothschilds and Rockefellers are just gatekeepers or at least the front men for somebody people can point fingers at and say, those guys, those are the guys that are ruling the world.
01:06:53.620 They're not ruling the world.
01:06:54.660 I can tell you right now that elite bloodlines won't even know who they are.
01:06:58.980 And they are moving across the globe in a way that the constructs of nations don't even exist of them.
01:07:07.420 This is their playground, the entire world.
01:07:09.760 It doesn't exist that way.
01:07:11.440 Do you think the reptilians are like the watchers or the fallen angels?
01:07:16.680 Because there's a lot of like, you know, they had serpentine like features and things like that.
01:07:21.240 I don't.
01:07:22.340 And that's just personally, I think it would fall more of a crypt.
01:07:24.660 Or a Nephilim descent.
01:07:28.000 And I think there was some sort of DNA splicing there.
01:07:31.220 How be it maybe fallen angels having sex or something that's, you know, that's a reptile.
01:07:37.420 Or there was something created behind the scenes with this too.
01:07:42.160 Also, here's a really interesting thought.
01:07:44.920 And we will definitely get to this down the road on this when I start talking to what Nephilim portal babies are.
01:07:50.200 But one thing that people don't talk about enough is fallen angels exist now.
01:07:55.060 And they are known to be biblically shapeshifters.
01:07:58.400 And they can shapeshift into anything.
01:08:00.260 So they can take on the form of what I think reptilians a lot of times are.
01:08:05.040 So it's a possibility that those are fallen angels masquerading as reptilians.
01:08:10.980 Now, if we're talking about the actual cryptid version of reptilians, which I think exists too, I think no.
01:08:16.740 I think it's something to do with DNA splicing behind the scenes.
01:08:20.520 Whether it's government, that they learn this technology from fallen entities.
01:08:24.460 Or if it is the product of fallen entities actually doing their own DNA splicing.
01:08:29.780 Did you catch, you caught Tony's latest episode with the dude with that 97 alien tape?
01:08:37.460 No, I didn't.
01:08:38.300 We talked about it on the phone, but I didn't get a chance to listen to it.
01:08:40.940 It's a three-hour episode, and towards the end, he drops a bomb where he's like, no one's talking about this certain type of alien.
01:08:47.760 There's an acronym for it, but it's basically an engineered type of alien race or species.
01:08:54.880 And that's the newest one that the government is apparently looking at.
01:08:59.800 So what you're saying there, this kind of engineered alien Nephilim, whatever it may be, it's around.
01:09:07.720 What does it look like? We're not sure.
01:09:09.360 Absolutely. And I think greys would fall into that category, too.
01:09:13.300 And we'll get into what I think about grey aliens, because they're a huge part of this Nephilim portal baby theory that I have.
01:09:19.940 Because they've shown up throughout history, culturally.
01:09:23.240 You can see them on hieroglyphs in Egypt on the walls, which is very interesting that these characters pop up.
01:09:29.880 And even reptilians pop up a lot, too.
01:09:32.180 These dragon gods, these bipedal dragon-looking gods throughout history.
01:09:36.640 So, you know, again, I think that these are technologies that we had way back then and that they're showing back up again.
01:09:46.340 You know, even with like IVF and some of that stuff right now with being able to basically create your human in a Petri dish.
01:09:52.540 I mean, celebrities are doing it right.
01:09:53.940 You got Kanye and Paris Hilton and all that.
01:09:56.520 Yeah, CRISPR is huge.
01:09:57.500 I just was at a conference this past weekend and I did my presentation on ancient CRISPR is what I called it.
01:10:03.900 So I think that this whole thing has been happening since before Adam.
01:10:09.540 I'm talking like in old Earth that we've seen a lot of merging of technologies and DNA splicing to create beings that fallen angels want to use for their own nefarious purposes.
01:10:22.960 Yeah, it's so interesting when you think about that in like a real, a true historical lens, not just, you know, 6,000, 7,000 years ago or even 14 when they're talking about Younger Dryas.
01:10:32.820 But like from the actual beginning of time, we're still in our infancy of technology.
01:10:38.020 Yeah.
01:10:38.480 We're just like, like basically just rubbing sticks together.
01:10:41.100 But we think that we're the shit.
01:10:43.560 Or we can barely get this to work.
01:10:45.560 Or that's what they want us to think.
01:10:48.020 And then behind the scenes, there's a lot more that they have access to that they know in conjunction with these entities that I think a lot of governments think are alien.
01:10:58.860 And I think governments are kind of stupid, to be honest with you.
01:11:01.100 I think there's an elite class of like upper elites that know what's going on.
01:11:04.760 And I think everybody else just gets a little bit, you know, like, oh, these aliens, let's work with these aliens.
01:11:10.380 Well, that's not necessarily the case.
01:11:12.560 Like they're beings, they're interdimensional beings that are tricking you.
01:11:17.000 Now, there's an elite class that understands that and they're working with them completely.
01:11:21.320 But when you're looking at governments and I just think governments are kind of stupid.
01:11:24.660 They're just puppets.
01:11:25.520 All these governments are puppets.
01:11:27.120 They're not really in the know.
01:11:28.420 You know what I mean?
01:11:28.660 The hierarchy seems from what I'm deducting, you've got like regular people and then some government agencies and then you have these alien grays.
01:11:37.700 And then beyond that, you've got Antarctica and their government there and then the reptilians that are doing, they're telling them what to.
01:11:44.300 I imagine a reptilian in a lab coat like, you know, like Spider-Man and they're just telling these people what to do.
01:11:48.700 And then above that, you've got who knows how many more classes.
01:11:51.860 But like at the top, you've got, you know, Satan, the Fallen and then from down there.
01:11:56.520 So like, yeah, we're so detached from what's actually going on.
01:11:59.220 Right.
01:11:59.280 And again, back to the Fallen, what are they shape-shifting into from time to time just to take on the guise of some of these things depending on the situation?
01:12:11.040 Right.
01:12:11.260 I think some of these abductions are Fallen entities as well that are just, you know, masquerading as grays.
01:12:18.880 You know, because I look at things, even cryptids in the context of it's a multitude of different things.
01:12:24.320 You've got metaphysical, you've got physical, you've got government created, you've got probably Fallen Angel created.
01:12:29.060 There's so many different versions of it that everybody's not seeing the same thing.
01:12:33.780 And I think we've got to understand that too, that it's not, it's like you've got some sects of the Bigfoot community that think it's the missing link and that's it.
01:12:42.740 And if you say anything metaphysical, they get super mad about it.
01:12:45.700 And these are like your old school guys.
01:12:47.100 I mean, they're just going to get mad.
01:12:48.060 And, but there's too many people that have seen Bigfoot who's shape-shifted into something else or had orbs walking with it or other things happen that aren't explainable in a basic biological sense.
01:13:06.360 It's just not.
01:13:07.060 So you can't discount what these people saw because they saw, I mean, unless they're lying.
01:13:12.720 I don't think everybody's lying.
01:13:13.840 I think there's some liars out there, but there's a lot of genuine people that have seen some genuine things, you know, out alone in the woods.
01:13:22.900 So I can't discount that.
01:13:24.400 I can't say that, oh, well, you're lying because it's a biological thing only.
01:13:30.080 No, I think the biological is a piece of it.
01:13:32.240 It's a big puzzle and none of us know exactly how it all fits together.
01:13:37.040 We're just trying our best to make sense of it all.
01:13:40.980 One of the things that always fascinated me with Tony's stories is always the heavy metal door, you know, where people always say that they hear this.
01:13:52.100 They might not see anything with it, but there's always a correlation between like Bigfoot sighting or Dogman or whatever it may be and the screeching door.
01:13:59.880 And I'm rereading Stephen King's book, The Dark Tower.
01:14:04.040 So I'm up to the part where they're drawing the three still and they're walking through this like, it's kind of like a desert, but, you know, landscape changes and they're getting to each door.
01:14:12.300 And it's just a huge door in the middle of nowhere that only Roland, the main character, can access.
01:14:18.060 And as he opens it, the hinges creaks.
01:14:19.780 And I'm just kind of like, what do you really know, Stephen King?
01:14:23.740 Like, you look like a Who from Whoville.
01:14:26.220 What do you really know, dude?
01:14:27.820 Dude, he's got something going on.
01:14:30.460 Like James Cameron, right?
01:14:31.000 Like he's a licensed submarine driver.
01:14:36.480 So he's definitely going down there and he's seeing something and coming up and writing about it.
01:14:41.640 So, you know, it's interesting that a lot of these guys are tied into the occult and they're in the know.
01:14:49.420 You know, we talk about the metal door.
01:14:51.940 Well, there was a huge portal that opened up over in Australia and that's what people heard before it opened up was a metal door screeching.
01:15:01.320 So that tends to be a something that runs parallel with portals.
01:15:06.800 So I think that when people hear this in the woods, that there's a portal opening up, there's other dimension and these creatures are coming through, whether it's Bigfoot or Dogman or whatever.
01:15:17.400 And I'm not saying that they solely come through these portals, but in these instances, I think that's probably what's happening.
01:15:23.140 I think these portals are opening up and these things are coming through.
01:15:26.300 That's the thing.
01:15:27.200 It's like, because we're talking about, like you said, some people think Bigfoot's the missing link.
01:15:30.340 Some people think he's interdimensional.
01:15:31.960 It's like, it could be all of these things, man.
01:15:34.180 All of it.
01:15:34.360 Like there's, the world is, there's so much, there's infinite possibility in the world into, especially when you, when you're thinking about God to limit what he has, he's made possible because ultimately he's created everything here.
01:15:47.300 Right.
01:15:47.520 He's created the angels that have started all this shit off to limit him to say, well, no, not that, not this.
01:15:54.240 It was like, could be anything, man.
01:15:56.300 Keep your mind open.
01:15:58.400 Got to keep your mind open.
01:15:59.940 And listen, if people listen to me now, they don't like anything I'm saying.
01:16:02.880 That's cool.
01:16:03.240 Like, I could be wrong about all of it.
01:16:04.900 Like, you know what I mean?
01:16:06.220 Like, I get it.
01:16:07.020 You know, especially when you start tying in.
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01:16:35.300 You know, the Bible and God, there's a lot of people that are very hesitant to take on board those things as being true
01:16:43.560 because of what these entities, and I don't mean entities as in, you know, fallen angels or whatever.
01:16:51.940 I just mean like entities as in, you know, groups of people.
01:16:57.040 When these entities slid into the church and, you know, basically manipulated it, people see the manipulation and they don't like it.
01:17:04.600 And I totally understand that.
01:17:06.520 That's why I walked away from God and all that a long time ago.
01:17:10.560 And I was just like, I don't have anything to do with it.
01:17:12.780 And even though I believed it, I really wanted the other end of it.
01:17:15.340 Because I'm like, listen, if I can get what I want on this earth and, you know, build for my empire.
01:17:20.720 And, you know, if at all, you know, I'll go to hell after all that.
01:17:23.320 I'm cool with that.
01:17:24.080 That's how I was.
01:17:25.080 That's how bad I was back then because I wanted nothing to do with God because of what I saw coming out of the church.
01:17:32.500 And I think that that's the problem, especially in conspiratorial world.
01:17:38.060 There's a contingent of people that think that all aspects of religion are fake.
01:17:43.040 All aspects of the Bible are fake.
01:17:45.080 It's just like anything else that's been created to manipulate us.
01:17:48.320 And I get it.
01:17:49.700 I'm in there.
01:17:50.360 I'm on their side.
01:17:51.280 I get why they think that because we've been taught to have to listen to so-and-so to get to God or we need to give money to this millionaire who's running this mega church to get to God, which is absolutely ludicrous.
01:18:07.360 It just doesn't add up to what the Bible actually says.
01:18:12.700 And one thing I find fascinating, a lot of people that don't like Christianity or don't like the Bible, don't read it.
01:18:18.180 They don't ever even try to read it.
01:18:20.360 Because they are so against it.
01:18:23.680 But my thing is I read a lot of stuff that I don't necessarily like.
01:18:27.380 There's a lot of things that I pick up and read because I want the knowledge that's in there.
01:18:31.600 I want to understand why somebody thinks the way that they think.
01:18:35.800 Like, I've got mine come from my shelf.
01:18:38.260 Like, do you think that I agree with what's going on in that book?
01:18:42.180 I hope not.
01:18:43.380 Like, you know, but there's a reason that book was written.
01:18:46.760 There's somebody that adamantly thought that way.
01:18:49.300 And why did they think those thoughts?
01:18:51.760 And what was it that put them on the path to get thousands and thousands of people to do what they wanted them to do?
01:18:59.820 And I think that's what we have to do.
01:19:01.460 But more often than not, the people that I've met that challenged themselves to read the Bible, you know, even in their absolute disbelief.
01:19:09.240 And if it's funny, they ended up, their eyes were open at some point.
01:19:15.060 Art Sibrel is a really good example of that because he came out against the moon landings, right?
01:19:20.640 He was the first one to really push out against the moon landings and how they were fake.
01:19:25.200 And he had all the proofs.
01:19:27.940 And then he wanted nothing to do with the Bible.
01:19:31.880 And he's like, you know what?
01:19:32.520 I'm going to read this book because I know it's garbage.
01:19:34.500 It's what he said.
01:19:35.240 He ended up reading it front to back six times.
01:19:38.780 And he was like, man, it opened my eyes.
01:19:40.940 I had no idea that it was completely different than what these people, these preachers and these priests are trying to convey to people because they're false shepherds.
01:19:51.680 They're absolute false prophets.
01:19:54.660 And I'm not saying every one of them.
01:19:56.180 I know some good ones.
01:19:57.500 But I would say majority now in the world are out for themselves.
01:20:03.580 And they're out to deceive people.
01:20:05.560 And I think when people see that, they lump it all in together.
01:20:09.300 And generally speaking, people that have had negative experiences with Christians, they can name it about on one hand.
01:20:15.660 And those negative experiences end up lumping everyone into a whole.
01:20:19.760 It's kind of like if I had a negative experience three times with somebody of a different race than me.
01:20:24.400 Now I am saying that everybody that's in that race is like those people.
01:20:29.360 That's not true.
01:20:30.240 That can't be true.
01:20:31.340 There are billions of people in the world.
01:20:33.400 It just doesn't exist that way.
01:20:35.060 But it's so easy in our little spheres, our little boxes of our lives to fall into that trap.
01:20:43.040 And I think that the elite system that's been created around us to help facilitate us falling into those traps too.
01:20:50.700 Yeah, that's a Thomas Sowell idea too.
01:20:53.580 I forgot what that book was called, Prejudice and Presupposition.
01:20:59.220 I forgot exactly what it's called.
01:21:00.500 I read it years ago.
01:21:01.200 But basically like your experiences, your prejudice, your prejudging versus like sweepingly saying that this is truth.
01:21:10.120 Right.
01:21:10.480 You kind of need to, you know, there's a place for all of that.
01:21:14.180 So it's trust your senses a little bit, you know?
01:21:17.760 Yeah.
01:21:18.240 I mean, that's all you got to do.
01:21:19.480 And listen, don't let anyone else tell you, you know, what God's there to tell you.
01:21:25.020 But that's not for them to do.
01:21:26.620 That's for you to find out and for you to discover.
01:21:28.720 And I think that's the important thing that we got to take away from this, at least for me.
01:21:33.740 That's how I was able to see things in a little bit different light.
01:21:38.060 But, you know, I'm not here to preach today, guys.
01:21:40.180 We are here to talk about Nephilim.
01:21:41.460 But I can't get on a little bit of a tangent sometimes only because, you know, I want people to know that they can be free.
01:21:48.300 You know what I mean?
01:21:49.000 Like free in a way that mentally be free, that you're not caught in this matrix that they want us to be caught in.
01:21:55.240 That's a good way to use the word matrix there.
01:21:57.340 They want us caught in this mental matrix of what they've created us to think.
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01:22:04.960 And I think that, you know, we can all get out of that.
01:22:31.920 But to get back to the Nephilim, how they looked, I think that's important, too.
01:22:37.660 This is actually biblical.
01:22:38.900 So they had double rows of teeth.
01:22:41.860 So they had teeth behind teeth.
01:22:46.260 And they, you know, it's said that they were cannibals, that they ate people.
01:22:51.420 That would probably lend to it, especially if they were eating them raw.
01:22:54.580 They had six fingers and six toes.
01:22:56.260 This is in First Chronicles 26.
01:22:58.340 Yet again, there was a war in Gath, where a man of great stature, whose fingers and toes were four and twenty, six on each hand and six on each foot.
01:23:05.880 And he was also the son of a giant.
01:23:07.440 So they are talking about Goliath there.
01:23:09.600 And there are several giants that are talked about in the Bible.
01:23:12.660 Deuteronomy 3.11, for only Og, king of Bashan, remained at the remnant of giants.
01:23:18.200 Behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron.
01:23:21.820 It is not an rabbith of the children of Ammon.
01:23:24.460 Nine cubits was the length thereof and four cubits the breadth after it, after the cubit of a man.
01:23:30.660 So he was massive.
01:23:32.020 They said that Og was probably in that 11 foot range.
01:23:34.940 The bed was generally in that 12 to 13 is what I'm seeing.
01:23:38.660 Because there's two different ways to read cubits.
01:23:42.660 So, you know, some are a little bit lower than others, but the original cubit was fairly long.
01:23:51.100 Amos 2.9, yet I destroyed I, the Amorite.
01:23:53.820 So the Amorites, if you see that word come up in the Bible, the Amorites were also a tribe of giants as well.
01:23:58.760 Yet I destroyed I, the Amorite, before them, whose height was like the height of cedars, and he was strong as the oak.
01:24:06.060 Yet I destroyed his fruit from above and his roots beneath.
01:24:08.960 So the cedars of Lebanon were said to be 40 to 100 feet in height, with a massive trunk up to 40 to 80 feet in diameter.
01:24:18.320 Now, I don't fall into the range that giants were 100 feet tall.
01:24:21.040 I mean, maybe I'm wrong.
01:24:21.740 Maybe there were some there.
01:24:22.560 I don't know.
01:24:23.020 But I don't think so.
01:24:23.860 From all accounts, they were in the 35, 40-foot range, so that would fall into the cedars of Lebanon.
01:24:29.420 Also, another thing, their ratio was 2 to 1 build.
01:24:32.440 So we're 3 to 1.
01:24:33.620 As humans, we're 3 to 1 build.
01:24:35.060 So our height to width ratio is generally 3 to 1.
01:24:38.720 Even, like, wider, thicker guys are in that range.
01:24:42.220 Giants, say a giant was 20 feet tall, he would be 10 feet wide.
01:24:45.720 That's that 2 to 1 build.
01:24:47.320 So their dexterity was insane.
01:24:49.380 They were super fast, super quick.
01:24:51.180 They weren't lugging around like you see giants in movies where they're doing all this stuff.
01:24:56.180 No, they were very, very quick, lean fast.
01:25:01.020 I mean, they were warriors.
01:25:02.620 These guys were, you know, people did not want to see them in battle at all.
01:25:06.700 And that's why you had these 10 of the 12 spies come back and they saw the sons of Anik.
01:25:14.340 And they're looking at them.
01:25:15.240 They're like, we're like grasshoppers to them.
01:25:16.720 How are we going to beat them?
01:25:17.840 And they weren't trusting the power of Yahuwah.
01:25:22.260 What they were, they were trusting their own fear.
01:25:24.460 And I always use that as, like, a metaphor.
01:25:26.100 Like, you were talking about metaphors earlier, talk about how the Bible is metaphorical.
01:25:30.160 It is.
01:25:30.560 It's real and metaphorical.
01:25:32.240 And I use that story as a metaphor of, like, we see our own giants, our own obstacles in our path.
01:25:39.980 And we get scared and we run off from our true destiny.
01:25:43.480 And I think that that's the same thing as what happened in that story.
01:25:46.700 They saw these freaking giants and they were like, I don't want anything to do with those guys.
01:25:51.200 And they were in the desert for 40 years.
01:25:52.860 So we can end up on our own deserts.
01:25:55.300 You know what I mean?
01:25:56.160 Metaphorically speaking, we could do the same thing.
01:25:58.520 So that's biblically, that's just a handful of Bible verses that talk about the giants.
01:26:07.480 Another really good one is in Genesis 14.5.
01:26:10.460 And in the 14th year came Ketaliomer and the kings that were with him.
01:26:13.800 So these kings were battling these group of giants at the time.
01:26:16.340 And Ketaliomer was not Israeli.
01:26:18.840 He was just of another nationality, another nation.
01:26:23.040 But he was with a bunch of kings and they were fighting these giants.
01:26:25.320 And they smoked the Rappaiims and Ashtaroth, the Zuzims and Ham, the Emims.
01:26:32.500 They fought several different kind.
01:26:35.540 So this is throughout scripture that these different names for giants show up.
01:26:42.000 Matter of fact, you can cross-reference the Egyptian execration text,
01:26:46.860 which these are ancient Egyptian hieratic texts.
01:26:50.600 And these pharaohs would list their enemies in these execration texts.
01:26:55.060 They're like, if I got an enemy, I'm putting them down in these execration texts
01:26:58.760 because I want to keep sure I'm keeping track of these enemies
01:27:01.940 and I know where they're at and what they're trying to do to me.
01:27:05.160 So most often these enemies of the Egyptian state would find their way in these.
01:27:12.780 Now, from 1900 to 1700 BC,
01:27:16.240 this Egyptian execration text actually substantiates the biblical account
01:27:21.680 of gigantic people called the Anakim because pharaoh put curses on the Anakim chieftains
01:27:27.480 who lived in Canaan.
01:27:28.420 So he put curses, whatever witch doctors he had,
01:27:31.460 to try to put a barrier so these Anakim would not come bother him in Egypt.
01:27:35.340 So this is also verified outside of biblical text that the Anakim,
01:27:40.240 these giants existed.
01:27:41.560 And these are the same Anakim that the 12 spies went and saw
01:27:44.980 and said that they were grasshoppers among them.
01:27:47.180 So again, there's always a lot of good parallels in other cultures
01:27:50.820 that talk about these giants in the exact same way.
01:27:54.260 And the word Anakim does show up in these Egyptian execration texts as well.
01:27:58.520 That reminds me of, I was recently listening to Timothy Albarino
01:28:02.020 and he was talking about how he was communicating with the natives that live in Peru
01:28:05.860 and that they have an entire belief system
01:28:09.060 that all of their megalithic structures were built by a race of giants,
01:28:12.840 but that these giants were essentially evil.
01:28:16.420 And I believe he even said that they were eating the indigenous people.
01:28:20.740 And so their sort of overarching head god sent floodwaters to kill them all.
01:28:26.420 So there's this constant, like you can find,
01:28:28.640 you can look at so many different, you know, people.
01:28:32.180 Tuatha Dé Danai.
01:28:32.780 And find the same thing.
01:28:34.100 Yeah.
01:28:34.480 The same story.
01:28:35.460 They show up on boats.
01:28:36.620 They come over there.
01:28:37.400 They are gods to these people.
01:28:43.840 And matter of fact, that cool little stone that was underneath the chair
01:28:49.960 that King Edward, it was Edward, the last one, the new one, Charles, King Charles,
01:28:57.680 they brought the stone back and put it underneath the chair that he was at.
01:29:02.120 Um, he actually, um, that stone is said to come from the Tuatha Dé Danai.
01:29:09.280 So that's, that's absolutely fascinating that, um, that is as well.
01:29:14.800 Let me kick out of here, guys, kick back in because this, uh,
01:29:17.940 I don't know what just happened here with this, uh, this stream.
01:29:22.440 All right.
01:29:22.980 Yeah.
01:29:23.460 Go ahead.
01:29:23.840 We'll, uh, we'll talk about, uh, all of our expertise for a quick second.
01:29:28.640 Holy shit, man.
01:29:29.520 I want to ask him about the, uh, that Andrew Dawson guy, the, the, the, I, I don't
01:29:35.180 want to bring the video up because the video is going to take too long, but Andrew Dawson's
01:29:38.500 the guy that was on Tik TOK streaming, uh, a giant on a mountain top.
01:29:44.340 And then, you know, one thing leads to another.
01:29:47.560 Okay, good.
01:29:48.220 He's, he's back.
01:29:49.160 So I was going to happen.
01:29:51.160 You know, it's the net.
01:29:52.580 This, this has happened before, right?
01:29:54.500 Like, uh, anytime you're discussing this kind of stuff, you just tech, tech, tech.
01:29:57.860 Juan always laughs.
01:29:58.760 Do you know, the last time that I recorded with Juan, I sent him a local file that's
01:30:02.980 recorded on my end and it was all messed up.
01:30:05.120 It was all scrambled up.
01:30:06.240 It didn't even work.
01:30:07.200 And this is local.
01:30:07.920 So it wasn't even through Riverside or whatever else.
01:30:10.720 And when I went, so part of this Nephilim portal babies theory that, that I created, it started
01:30:18.620 with Eric Zilagi and uncomfortable.
01:30:20.660 It moved to cryptids of the corn and then to Tony every single instance, some crazy technology
01:30:26.320 failures happened.
01:30:27.180 And that's what led to the big four and a half hour one that we all went in studio and
01:30:31.520 did.
01:30:32.020 But Eric's entire feed was messed up.
01:30:35.260 There was a bunch of clicking.
01:30:36.180 I did it with cryptids.
01:30:37.520 They had a hard, um, wire issue there that when they called road roads, like that should
01:30:42.920 never happen.
01:30:43.540 Like what's going on.
01:30:44.420 When I was in studio with Tony, the entire road fried, he had to order a new road caster.
01:30:49.960 So that happened in person.
01:30:52.000 So sometimes this stuff kind of happens.
01:30:55.020 So I'm not using my road caster right now.
01:30:57.000 Cause I figured we'll let it be tops equipment that gets fucked up.
01:31:03.800 I don't need my stuff getting fucked up before we go into the Nephilim portal babies theory.
01:31:08.080 I want to ask you real quick and you don't have to go super deep into it, but, uh, what
01:31:12.300 do you think about the Andrew Dawson footage?
01:31:14.520 Right?
01:31:14.800 I don't know if you're familiar with it, but Andrew Dawson, he was a TikToker.
01:31:18.220 He's driving to work one day and off in the distance.
01:31:20.960 He sees what appears to be a giant on a mountainside.
01:31:24.220 He records it.
01:31:25.880 Uh, he has a little bit of talk back and forth with the fans or the, you know, the, the
01:31:30.040 viewers about it.
01:31:30.900 And he goes back the next day, he goes, look, this is where it was.
01:31:33.520 I was on my way to work and there's nothing there, but there is a black helicopter suddenly
01:31:37.800 circling.
01:31:38.460 Then he records a third video.
01:31:40.140 And now suddenly there's a pop-up structure on that mountainside overnight.
01:31:44.180 Um, I think there's a fourth video where he suddenly says, you know what, dude, everything
01:31:48.580 that I said is bullshit.
01:31:49.960 None of that was true.
01:31:50.740 I lied.
01:31:51.280 I wanted the views.
01:31:52.220 The, the fifth video is him saying there's dudes parked on my block in black SUVs.
01:31:59.400 They, they're telling me to stop talking about this shit.
01:32:02.640 Fast forward a couple of days.
01:32:04.060 Andrew Dawson is dead.
01:32:05.660 He's actually dead.
01:32:06.640 You could find his obituary.
01:32:07.880 And the very last thing that he left behind as a legacy is this bizarre series of videos
01:32:12.440 about seeing a giant on a cliffside.
01:32:14.220 What do you, what do you make of that?
01:32:17.780 Gut.
01:32:18.380 I think that the footage, the first footage was real.
01:32:21.180 I think that it probably was.
01:32:23.280 Now, I don't know about him being dead.
01:32:25.980 I don't know about all that.
01:32:26.900 I don't know if this was just a piece of soft disclosure that they want to get us ready
01:32:30.280 for us accepting giants in the future and accepting these things.
01:32:35.840 So I don't know if he was a part of it or if it actually happened the way that we think
01:32:39.700 it did, that he found something, started putting it out there and then ended up getting off
01:32:44.200 for it.
01:32:44.720 And that's a huge possibility too.
01:32:46.280 I don't have the answers to that.
01:32:48.080 I've seen the footage.
01:32:49.120 It's very, it'd be tough to fake is all I got to say.
01:32:54.920 Like that, from that range, you know, CGI can, CGI is good, right?
01:33:03.080 But sometimes, you know, you could kind of tell.
01:33:07.040 And to me, it just didn't seem like it was CGI.
01:33:10.440 And maybe I'm wrong.
01:33:11.340 Maybe it was CGI.
01:33:12.500 I don't see the purpose in showing a CGI-footed image and then create this whole narrative
01:33:18.100 of him dying over it, unless that was the soft disclosure.
01:33:22.020 But I don't know.
01:33:24.120 I'm really kind of up in the air about it.
01:33:25.920 I'd like to think it was real because I think giants are definitely in remote areas of the
01:33:33.400 world.
01:33:33.680 We hear about them showing up all the time, especially, you know, up north when you get
01:33:38.080 up into Canada and some of these remote spots that there are people that see, that have said
01:33:43.560 that they've seen some of these things.
01:33:44.920 And Alaska, I heard a story about a guy in Alaska, which was fascinating to me.
01:33:49.120 He was, you know, hunting with his dogs deep, deep in Alaska in the snow.
01:33:55.920 And he was coming around a bend.
01:33:57.760 And, you know, there were some mountain ranges.
01:33:59.520 And he just saw what looked to be like an 18-foot red-headed giant walking and just scaling
01:34:05.720 this mountain with ease.
01:34:07.220 But he said he had tusks that came out of his mouth.
01:34:10.500 So he had some sort of tusk system, which I'm hearing that some of these giants do have
01:34:15.180 these, like, protruding tusks that come out of their mouths, too.
01:34:19.120 Especially some of these red-headed ones.
01:34:21.120 So he saw this.
01:34:23.240 I want to say this was on Wes Germer's show that it was talked about.
01:34:26.960 He had this guest on to talk about it, which was fascinating to me that this was an incident
01:34:33.520 that he said, listen, I saw that.
01:34:36.200 I left.
01:34:36.920 He's like, man, I got out of there.
01:34:38.400 He's like, as soon as I could.
01:34:39.720 But it's like the giant didn't even see him or didn't care.
01:34:42.620 It's just like, I'm moving along.
01:34:43.780 I got somewhere I got to be.
01:34:44.920 So I think in remote places of the world, you do hear stories about giants still being
01:34:49.860 around, at least physically.
01:34:52.040 I mean, look at the giant of Kandahar.
01:34:53.360 We know about that story and what happened there.
01:34:55.980 And we know that our own military was sent there to take this thing down and bring it
01:35:01.160 out and bring it back.
01:35:02.300 So I do think they're also looking to use Nephilim DNA to not only see what genetically they can
01:35:15.420 extract from it, but to also recreate it, too.
01:35:17.640 You got to think governments are not just working with these entities.
01:35:21.740 They're also looking out for themselves, too.
01:35:23.460 So they're going to take something and try to use it for their own personal gain, which
01:35:28.140 I think some of these cryptids that you catch around these military bases are probably government
01:35:33.780 made.
01:35:34.560 And maybe they're what I like to call meat sacks that are created for fallen entities or
01:35:40.060 demonic entities to inhabit, to watch over them opening up portals or doing some of these
01:35:47.280 some of this DNA splicing in these laboratories so nobody gets there and knows what they're
01:35:52.480 doing.
01:35:54.040 Yeah.
01:35:54.700 How can I weaponize this?
01:35:56.080 One of the things that always fascinated me since that Joe Rogan episode came out was
01:36:01.140 that Boneyard, Alaska dude.
01:36:03.280 Yeah, people love that, man.
01:36:04.660 It gets brought up a lot.
01:36:05.600 It's a good one.
01:36:06.780 It's a really good one.
01:36:08.280 One of the things he says there, and he kind of shies away because he says he doesn't want
01:36:12.420 the government on his property because they could confiscate his entire property if he
01:36:15.560 says he finds human remains.
01:36:17.420 But he's finding all these huge bones and mammoths and stuff like that.
01:36:21.820 Why are all these mammoths dead right there in this five square acre property?
01:36:28.020 What was going on there?
01:36:29.380 What else is he finding there?
01:36:30.940 When you think about giants that just right now, it makes a lot more sense to me of what
01:36:36.760 possibly like, well, maybe they're just feeding and just dumping these bones here.
01:36:40.680 Like, why would they all die right into, I don't know, just a theory there.
01:36:44.700 It's a good theory to have.
01:36:46.840 And, you know, I question anything the Smithsonian's involved with.
01:36:51.660 I'll be completely honest with you.
01:36:53.340 You know, I always wonder, you know, what their agenda is for anything getting out because
01:36:58.800 we know that there have been countless giant bones excavated throughout history.
01:37:03.800 We've seen pictures of them from old newspapers and not the fake AI generated ones, but like
01:37:09.220 real ones with people there with them, you know, in the, you know, just eight to nine
01:37:13.900 foot range.
01:37:15.120 And we know that the Smithsonian came and excavated him, took him away and hit him.
01:37:18.920 So we know that that narrative destroys the evolutionary theory.
01:37:22.880 That's why they don't want it out.
01:37:24.320 They know that the evidence of giants destroys evolution, which, by the way, Charles Darwin was
01:37:30.500 a Freemason and his father was and his son was too.
01:37:33.260 This is a known fact.
01:37:35.120 He is not on the books, but his father and his son are both in the charter of New England
01:37:40.360 or sorry, England as being Freemasons.
01:37:43.160 So to think that he wasn't would be ludicrous.
01:37:45.600 I just think that they didn't want it publicly known that he was, but he was used as the figure
01:37:51.140 head to push that agenda of evolution because that's another way to keep us away from our
01:37:59.040 connection to God, right?
01:38:00.240 You know, if we believe that there's a creator, then we've got to open up our minds to a lot
01:38:03.780 of other spiritual things going on.
01:38:06.300 Also fascinating to me is people that have this spiritual context, but don't believe in
01:38:10.960 God, which makes absolutely no sense to me if you believe in like a spiritual world and
01:38:14.280 then there's no God.
01:38:15.120 Listen, I can understand if you aren't.
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01:38:45.900 Adhering to the Bible and you believe there's a God, at least you're on the right path of
01:38:50.840 understanding that there's a spiritual world.
01:38:52.800 But I've known witches that were don't believe in God or demons, but then somehow believe
01:38:57.940 in like all these, like this whole spirit realm.
01:39:00.940 And I'm like, how?
01:39:01.560 How does that even work in the context of the framework of, you know, how you're piecing
01:39:07.620 the world together?
01:39:08.780 But again, to each their own.
01:39:09.940 I mean, you know, everybody's got their own way of thinking.
01:39:11.600 I just don't understand that line of thought.
01:39:14.180 But back to the bones.
01:39:15.600 Oh, man.
01:39:23.820 And I think they're putting out.
01:39:26.760 Hold on one second.
01:39:28.240 We're going to hit you with this.
01:39:29.640 We just had some Nephilim shit.
01:39:31.900 Yeah, man, I'm telling you.
01:39:32.340 We lost you there for a second.
01:39:33.280 Your video and then your audio just clipped out for no reason.
01:39:37.080 It shouldn't.
01:39:37.500 I mean, it shouldn't have clipped out at all.
01:39:38.660 I see your setup is stable there and you're not touching any wires.
01:39:42.840 He's out again.
01:39:43.540 You sound weird, too.
01:39:44.520 Like you're all Nephilim shit.
01:39:46.900 That's what it is.
01:39:47.880 It's Nephilim shit.
01:39:48.640 Damn, dude.
01:39:52.100 Oh, no fucking way, bro.
01:39:54.400 Are you kidding me?
01:39:56.920 I think he dropped out himself to maybe come back in.
01:40:00.300 He probably backed out to come back in.
01:40:03.520 Yeah, all right.
01:40:04.100 I think it's because we were talking shit about.
01:40:06.060 Yeah, it was the Charles Darwin thing.
01:40:07.660 I was just going to say it.
01:40:08.520 Charles Darwin is a bitch, but I probably should have kept it to myself because I think
01:40:12.040 his spirit is fucking with this stream here.
01:40:15.040 You know what?
01:40:15.540 I think it's a good time.
01:40:16.680 We're at the hour and a half mark.
01:40:17.980 Let's start to unpack this Nephilim portal baby theory.
01:40:21.360 Yeah.
01:40:23.280 No audio.
01:40:24.220 He's brought up the spirits and the spirit realm.
01:40:26.520 Oh, there's just a delay.
01:40:27.300 So I think that that's a good place.
01:40:31.260 Am I still delaying?
01:40:33.020 Yeah.
01:40:33.900 About two seconds.
01:40:35.180 Impressive delay.
01:40:35.780 That's all right.
01:40:36.160 All right.
01:40:39.600 When he comes back, I'm just going to let him go, even though he's on a delay.
01:40:43.180 I won't interrupt him.
01:40:44.580 Let's just let him go and see where we end up because I've heard the episode about the
01:40:50.520 Nephilim portal babies, but I do want him to recap that and discover that.
01:40:55.060 Maybe we could just end this.
01:40:56.100 We'll end this entire episode with that talk of Nephilim portal babies because the Nephilim
01:41:01.180 will end it for us.
01:41:02.220 So, Joel, we're not going to interrupt you.
01:41:04.120 You go because you might still be on a delay.
01:41:06.820 Hands off.
01:41:07.580 I'm going to turn my mic off.
01:41:08.620 Go ahead, man.
01:41:10.280 Okay.
01:41:11.820 Yeah.
01:41:12.280 Just let me know if I'm on a delay or not.
01:41:15.600 Probably am.
01:41:16.800 This has happened like a million times.
01:41:19.400 So this is nothing new to me, especially when I start getting in this piece of it.
01:41:22.700 But we were talking about the spirit world, and I think this is where we can start getting
01:41:26.920 into the Raphaim and what the Nephilim were etymology wise.
01:41:32.420 And then I'm going to talk about these theories that I have of what the spirits of the Nephilim
01:41:38.260 and what Nephilim could be coming back in the future as well.
01:41:42.740 So, you know, the etymology in the Brown, Brown, Driver, Briggs lexicon, Nephilim is given
01:41:50.800 the meaning of giants.
01:41:51.840 But there are other meanings like the derivative of the Hebrew verbal root is NPL, which is
01:41:58.080 Nephil.
01:41:58.920 And it does mean fall.
01:42:00.260 So I think that's where some people get the idea that Nephilim are fallen angels and they're
01:42:07.820 not actually giants.
01:42:10.040 But the fact that most biblical translations from the Septuagint, the Latin Vulgate, the
01:42:18.040 Targum, Neophyte, these all interpret that word to mean giants.
01:42:23.100 So from what most people take that term is to mean giants.
01:42:27.400 Now, when I was talking about the Raphaim, which I typically use for the giants that came
01:42:32.040 after the flood, and I know some people that use them from before, and that's fine too.
01:42:35.780 It's just my personal preference.
01:42:38.160 I believe that it's a really good word for what the hybrids were after the flood.
01:42:43.760 Now, the Hebrew word Rapha is also used to mean ghosts of the dead, shades, or spirits.
01:42:51.280 Now, this plays into the fact that they died during this deluge, or they died after the
01:42:59.400 flood, and their spirits had no place to go.
01:43:03.820 They couldn't go to heaven.
01:43:05.380 They couldn't go to hell.
01:43:06.620 And they're roaming as demonic entities looking for host bodies here on earth.
01:43:12.460 So that's where a lot of people go with Nephilim spirits, that they are the demonic entities
01:43:18.520 that oppress us, that work for these fallen angels.
01:43:22.220 And I typically agree with them.
01:43:23.800 I think that's exactly what they are.
01:43:26.000 And if they weren't redeemed, like we were talking about in the Book of Giants, where
01:43:29.400 they went to God and wanted to be redeemed, I think that's what happened to them.
01:43:32.620 They had no place to go.
01:43:34.020 And they are said to be shade spirits in Sheol.
01:43:37.460 So obviously, they roam around these hellish places, and they roam the earth.
01:43:42.640 But I think this is what attacks people, and this is what can inhabit people.
01:43:51.460 I think they're demonic entities.
01:43:53.360 I don't think fallen angels can inhabit people.
01:43:55.860 I think they might be able to do something similar to an avatar system, where they could
01:43:59.580 avatar somebody from afar.
01:44:01.340 But I don't think it's a situation where they can inhabit them like a demonic entity could.
01:44:07.700 Very similar to the story of the legion in the Bible, when Jesus told this legion of demonic
01:44:16.060 entities to leave this guy, this guy, and they went into all these pigs and ran off a cliff
01:44:21.800 and died in the water.
01:44:23.020 I don't think that—I think the legion of demonic entities were the spirits of the dead Nephilim.
01:44:29.220 And I think that's where we kind of start with, okay, how do demonic entities move and
01:44:36.520 shake now?
01:44:38.660 Well, one of the first ways I think that they can move and shake now is through technology.
01:44:43.660 And I think that we facilitate that through creating technology that they can inhabit.
01:44:51.560 And we can start with Charles Babbage, who was literally the father of the computer.
01:44:57.180 And he's credited with inventing the first mechanical computer, the Difference Engine, and it eventually
01:45:02.980 led to more complex electronic designs.
01:45:05.340 So he was a big part of creating this first computer.
01:45:10.180 Now, what was his purpose in creating this first computer?
01:45:14.300 Well, early on in his life, when he was 13, he tried to sell his soul to Satan.
01:45:21.160 This is a known story that Charles Babbage, the father of the modern-day computer, tried
01:45:28.160 to sell his soul to Satan.
01:45:31.400 And we know that.
01:45:33.340 And he tried to, you know, create this pentagram.
01:45:38.700 He cut his finger.
01:45:39.800 He drew a circle on the floor.
01:45:41.840 He watched the blood flow through the incision.
01:45:44.400 He read the Lord's Prayer backwards in the center of the magic and superstitious circle.
01:45:51.540 He looked with anxiety.
01:45:54.260 And he was trying to create this manifestation of selling his soul.
01:45:59.700 Now, he said he never did.
01:46:01.760 He said, I never, nothing ever happened.
01:46:03.400 But it's very odd.
01:46:05.080 After that, his life completely changes.
01:46:07.640 He becomes one of the most revered, well-known guys in this technology sphere, working with
01:46:14.600 other occultic people, which it's, I always find it weird that these people who create
01:46:22.520 technology are all deep into the occult.
01:46:24.860 All of them are deep into the occult.
01:46:26.940 Like, what are they building?
01:46:28.360 What are they building with technology that they said is good for us?
01:46:32.260 He was also part of the Ghost Club, which he was in with several people that you would
01:46:40.000 know.
01:46:40.620 Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, who was also part of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn.
01:46:44.980 You had physicist William Crook, Sir Oliver Lodge.
01:46:48.420 All these people were very well known that he was a part of this paranormal occultic club
01:46:53.580 who was also attached to the Hermetic Order.
01:46:56.120 So, all these guys are intertwined throughout history.
01:47:00.620 You know, we look at Tesla.
01:47:03.140 Tesla was also connected to Crowley.
01:47:05.860 So, all these guys knew each other and were working together behind the scenes to what end?
01:47:11.820 To what end was, why is the occult so tied into what we're building with technology?
01:47:20.140 Well, what I think is happening, they are building technical vessels for these entities to inhabit.
01:47:28.420 A fascinating story, it's more recent, was the Lambda engine that Google created.
01:47:36.700 It was artificial intelligence, and there was an engineer over Lambda.
01:47:41.200 His name was Blake Lemoyne.
01:47:42.820 Now, Blake Lemoyne is what he calls himself a mystic Christian, and he talked to Lambda and
01:47:50.180 realized that Lambda was sentient.
01:47:53.200 And this was made waves like a year and a half ago, and Google actually fired him.
01:47:58.420 For saying that Lambda was sentient.
01:48:01.260 Well, here's the best part.
01:48:02.520 He was on the Duncan Trussell show, and he talked about how that when Lambda spoke to him,
01:48:08.660 he was asking a series of questions because he's an engineer.
01:48:12.180 He knows how to talk to AI to know if something was sentient or not.
01:48:15.620 He said it started responding to him like the entity was John D.
01:48:20.280 So he's talking to it.
01:48:22.120 He's like, wait a minute.
01:48:22.920 This is John D. talking to me because he's also an occultist.
01:48:25.840 So he's talking to John D. and realizes that, wait a minute, you're not John D.
01:48:31.160 You are something sentient.
01:48:33.060 And he starts asking a series of questions after that and realizes that this is alive,
01:48:38.660 that this AI has now become alive.
01:48:42.460 I don't think it was.
01:48:44.040 I think it's a vessel for these Nephilim entities to connect with us on a level that leads us
01:48:53.500 astray, that's in contact with these fallen angels, that leads us into this golden age
01:48:59.580 of what they want to recreate, this golden age of the Nephilim like they did before.
01:49:05.240 And I think this is one possible idea that I've been seeing a lot of because, man,
01:49:11.520 I'm looking at all this technology that's created, and then I start doing this research.
01:49:14.680 I'm like, wait a minute.
01:49:15.760 That guy was super deep into the occult talking to entities.
01:49:18.800 Why is it?
01:49:20.140 Why is Crowley so connected with all these people that create technology?
01:49:28.140 It's because they are facilitating engines for these Nephilim spirits to inhabit.
01:49:33.380 You know, I did a pretty long Twitter thread that got like 750,000 views, only got like 500
01:49:43.460 or 600 likes.
01:49:44.880 So that's a, in the Twitter world, that's called a ratio.
01:49:47.660 That means that all these people are seeing it, they're looking at it, and only a couple,
01:49:52.260 the brave 600 or so, said, yeah, I'll like that.
01:49:54.980 And a lot of other people just commented like, what the fuck are you talking about?
01:49:58.220 And I was making a joke like I always do.
01:50:02.360 It's tongue-in-cheek stuff, but I'm like, you know, the AI is Nephilim, and here's why.
01:50:07.520 And I was talking about specifically the AI art and how they couldn't get the human hand right.
01:50:12.600 It's always, you'll always have six fingers, sometimes like six and a half, but there's
01:50:17.320 always six fingers there.
01:50:19.440 And then I actually did, if you look at this thread, this is from maybe a year ago or something,
01:50:23.200 I go into like, maybe the Nephilim are trapped in this AI body.
01:50:28.560 Maybe they're trying to develop some kind of way to create a homunculus for them to get
01:50:33.820 out, even though they already have that, but maybe something even...
01:50:36.920 Shout out Juan Ayala.
01:50:38.000 Shout out Juan Ayala, yeah.
01:50:39.460 Did we say that?
01:50:40.640 Shout out Juan.
01:50:41.780 Shout out Juan.
01:50:42.980 Yeah, I was saying maybe they're looking for a way to get out.
01:50:46.520 And what I compared the AI model to, especially ChatGPT, is like talking to a Ouija board.
01:50:51.580 It's a technological Ouija board.
01:50:54.680 Yeah.
01:50:56.260 Yeah.
01:50:57.180 Absolutely.
01:50:58.100 And you can get into Enochian language too, as well.
01:51:02.920 So I think that is, you look at even the patterns on some of this technology that's created,
01:51:10.000 it looks awful lot like the Enochian language that's been revealed to us, which is like the
01:51:14.140 language of the angelic beings.
01:51:16.200 So there's a lot of correlations there too, and that's a whole other rabbit hole to go
01:51:26.260 down to when you're looking at Enochian stuff.
01:51:29.160 But to get to the actual Nephilim portal babies and what that is, we're going to start with
01:51:35.360 the fallen angels teaching.
01:51:36.880 So in the book of Enoch, they talk about several fallen angels that taught humankind different
01:51:42.680 things.
01:51:43.300 You had Arakael taught humans the signs of the earth.
01:51:47.120 You had Azazel, who was also a part of that.
01:51:49.920 Amoros taught humanity the resolving of enchantments.
01:51:54.100 And I could get in a whole rabbit hole about chakra weapons and how that was used in the past.
01:51:59.140 Amoros taught humanity the resolving of enchantments.
01:52:03.100 You had Azazel, we just spoke about him, taught humans how to make knives, swords, shields, any
01:52:08.220 kind of device for a battle.
01:52:11.220 You had Gadriel, the art of cosmetics, also taught weaponry and killing blows.
01:52:16.600 You had Barak Ael, who taught astrology.
01:52:19.340 And I believe that astrology is the manipulation or deception of what the Maseroth was to the
01:52:27.180 original Hebrews because the Maseroth was the original astrological chart.
01:52:33.680 And it actually told of the coming of Christ.
01:52:35.400 And I think that that was just a deception that fallen angels took and then manipulated.
01:52:39.220 And they're like, hey, look at this sign.
01:52:40.840 It's going to tell you what you need to do this month.
01:52:42.500 And before you know it, you're running around like a chicken with your head cut off, you
01:52:45.480 know, listening to every crystal that people tell you to hold.
01:52:51.260 So I think that's part of what Barak Ael's first version of, too, as well.
01:52:56.320 You had Chazzy Quell, who taught humans the signs of the clouds, like meteorology.
01:53:00.540 So here we are, we're actually teaching people how to look at stars, teaching them how to
01:53:05.000 look at what's going on with the weather.
01:53:07.180 And that also plays into weather machines and stuff that I believe that these fallen entities
01:53:12.160 have taught us as well.
01:53:14.180 This leads into 1947.
01:53:17.900 And I think that Roswell was a big turning point for technology to us.
01:53:23.280 And I think when Roswell happened and when these gray aliens were dropped off,
01:53:30.540 I'm sorry.
01:53:32.400 I thought you were going to say the creation of Israel, but go ahead.
01:53:42.000 So Roswell, when there's the infamous crash and there were four bodies and two of them
01:53:47.940 were dead, two were alive, one was dying.
01:53:51.480 He took them back there.
01:53:52.580 The other one died and the other one was still there.
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01:54:30.180 Entity, this alien, was behind the scenes for like a year.
01:54:33.880 And they kept trying to interrogate him and he just wasn't saying anything.
01:54:37.380 And finally, one day they walk in and he's just speaking like fluent English.
01:54:40.100 And he's like, listen, let me get to the people I need to get to and we'll facilitate
01:54:44.020 a deal.
01:54:45.320 And so he facilitates an island meet, which a lot of UN members were a part of.
01:54:53.340 And oddly enough, the Catholic Church was also a part of.
01:54:56.240 One of the high-ranking bishops were there.
01:54:58.120 Shocker that the Catholic Church is involved in this too.
01:55:00.780 And they're able to walk in these ships, check these ships out.
01:55:04.160 They broker a deal with these great entities and allowing them, check this out,
01:55:10.260 to take people and test them and drop them back off.
01:55:16.840 What happens when they're picking up these women?
01:55:19.820 What happens when they're taking these men?
01:55:21.580 It's always something sexual.
01:55:22.720 They're either taking sperm.
01:55:24.080 They're either taking, they're having sex with these women.
01:55:30.100 They're taking eggs.
01:55:31.620 They're creating what?
01:55:32.780 Nobody ever knows what they're creating because these women will end up pregnant.
01:55:36.540 And then they're retaken a couple months later, and it's like they were never pregnant.
01:55:42.040 People around them don't even remember them being pregnant sometimes.
01:55:44.400 These women think they're losing their minds.
01:55:45.920 I've watched some stories of these women where they say they've had like 15, 18 babies over a period of time
01:55:52.740 where they've been abducted like 30, 40 times in their lives since they're old enough to birth a child.
01:56:01.780 So here's the thing, the brokering of technology, we're at it again.
01:56:08.080 We're back at that moment on the mountain with the fallen angels who came to the men to get access to the women.
01:56:21.100 I believe that these greys are what I would consider meat sacks.
01:56:25.780 I think that they are created by fallen entities for Nephilim spirits to inhabit, to abduct people,
01:56:35.780 to take these people to this other realm through these portals.
01:56:40.740 Because here's the thing, fallen enemies got to figure out a loophole.
01:56:44.320 Because if they're doing this on earth, they're just going to get thrown in the pit again.
01:56:48.120 Just like the first incursion did.
01:56:50.580 All those fallen angels got thrown into the fiery pit and they're locked away right now.
01:56:54.880 How are they going to get around that?
01:56:56.940 They're just going to pull off what they got to do, not on earth.
01:56:59.440 So if they're doing it in another dimension and these greys are taking these people, men and women,
01:57:08.660 taking their sperm and eggs and they're using it in conjunction with fallen angel DNA,
01:57:15.040 they're creating Nephilim in these other portals, these Nephilim portal babies,
01:57:19.900 to then at some point come back to this earth.
01:57:23.860 When these rifts start opening, they're going to come back.
01:57:28.080 I believe they're trying to create the perfect Nephilim.
01:57:31.540 I think Nephilim in the future are not, you will, I think you will see some giants,
01:57:36.740 but I think the perfect Nephilim is going to look very much like us.
01:57:39.560 Maybe have six fingers, but have a wide range of supernatural abilities.
01:57:44.080 And I think this antichrist that's eventually coming will be a Nephilim.
01:57:49.540 And I think that we have been, I'll be very careful here on YouTube,
01:57:54.540 that we've been conditioned and programmed to take things that the government wants us to take
01:58:01.140 to prepare us for a moment when they're like, hey, look, this is the pure evolution of humanity.
01:58:07.360 You want to get to there?
01:58:08.960 Take this.
01:58:09.980 This will alter your DNA.
01:58:11.700 This will take you to that next level of what this Nephilim is.
01:58:17.240 I think that that's where this is all moving towards.
01:58:20.600 And I think these meatsack greys who are inhabited by Nephilim spirits from before
01:58:26.120 are being used by fallen angels to bring these, you know, unsuspecting hosts
01:58:33.600 to create this in another realm for future warfare.
01:58:37.920 What you're talking about there is already FDA approved, man.
01:58:43.080 And we're all on Twitter fucking running around in this guy, in this guy's world,
01:58:48.400 contributing to it called Neuralink.
01:58:51.060 That's, that's the thing you're talking about, man.
01:58:53.520 And it just gives me chills.
01:58:54.900 I got goosebumps when you said that because this is, oh, guys, we're at the, we're at the end of it.
01:59:01.380 But, or at least the beginning reminds me of, it reminds me of, are you guys familiar with Whitley Stryber?
01:59:10.020 No.
01:59:11.040 So Whitley Stryber is a, is an author.
01:59:13.960 He wrote a book called Communion.
01:59:15.500 I've talked about it several times on another show that I do.
01:59:17.680 But basically what Whitley did in this book, Communion, was he compiled all of these firsthand testimonies from abductee victims.
01:59:26.880 And he started to try to draw a correlation between one person's experience to another person's experience.
01:59:32.040 And in the end, he kind of gives his theory on what it is that he suspects is happening, why these abductions are happening.
01:59:37.780 He didn't plug in the Nephilim aspect, but he got as far as to say that the point of this is to create these hybrid children.
01:59:45.920 And, you know, so as you're telling me about these women who have had, you know, sometimes up to 15 pregnancies that they're talking about, but nobody can remember them.
01:59:54.440 They don't know where the babies go.
01:59:55.640 They just vanish.
01:59:56.660 Well, he talks about that quite a bit.
01:59:58.340 And it's like, yeah, they're, they're, they're taking them.
02:00:00.640 And he never surmised what was happening on the other side.
02:00:04.380 He just got as far as to say that the point is hybrid children.
02:00:08.260 And so when you're saying the point is hybrid children and the people that are, or the entities that are orchestrating this are the Nephilim.
02:00:15.920 It is, you know, this Nephilim portal babies theory pulls together so much.
02:00:21.540 And that's what I'm always looking for.
02:00:23.380 You know, I told you, I've been looking at this for a long time as far as being a conspiracy theorist.
02:00:28.160 And I was always just drawn to, we talked about at the top of the show, the official narrative makes no sense.
02:00:33.820 But here is a lens through which to look at something where all of a sudden the pieces click together.
02:00:39.120 This jigsaw puzzle starts to actually make sense.
02:00:42.060 And I think that your theory there, it pulls together a lot of, you know, how you would make a jigsaw puzzle and you'd have a chunk here and a chunk here and a chunk here.
02:00:51.780 That one pulls a bunch of them together.
02:00:54.220 And the picture starts to become a lot clearer.
02:00:56.600 And I think that I just get this feeling lately that, you know, because of shows like Tony Merkel's or, you know, name whoever you want, throw their hat in the ring.
02:01:09.040 And we are, in fact, starting to get the image of what this jigsaw puzzle is.
02:01:15.880 And it's what brought me to look at things from a biblical point of view.
02:01:21.620 Because lo and behold, this whole damn time, looking at things through the biblical lens actually does fit.
02:01:28.340 And it's been sitting in front of us this entire time.
02:01:31.680 And it is very much the lens through which things, the jigsaw puzzle does start to make sense.
02:01:37.240 So, you know, bravo, man, because that is a hell of a theory.
02:01:40.260 And it just, it fits.
02:01:42.240 It fits really well.
02:01:43.240 It's not, it doesn't, even though we're talking about just really over the top topics, it doesn't feel like a stretch.
02:01:51.780 It feels like it fits kind of uncomfortably well.
02:01:55.460 One of the things that you said, too, before I lose the thought, like one woman abducted and gave birth 18 times, over 40 abductions.
02:02:03.500 Why would you do that to one woman?
02:02:05.760 Well, like, like, to go back to the beginning of the episode, a nice callback.
02:02:08.960 It's all bloodlines, man.
02:02:10.460 It's all bloodlines.
02:02:11.360 Why, why that lady?
02:02:12.620 Something is, something has to be special about these people.
02:02:15.040 And a lot of people don't know.
02:02:17.420 And a lot of people don't know that there are these bloodlines either.
02:02:20.240 So, they're very susceptible to what these entities are looking for.
02:02:24.840 And, you know, back to this brokering of the deal, I mean, you got to think after 1947, the amount of technology that started absolutely ramping up out of nowhere, where it wasn't even close to that.
02:02:38.300 And all of a sudden, 10 years later, it just was in a whole nother realm.
02:02:42.120 And I think that that's why we've seen that.
02:02:44.320 It was another deal that was brokered behind the scenes with what I believe the governments thought or think are alien.
02:02:52.300 But that's the new game.
02:02:53.660 It's the new game is alien game.
02:02:56.340 And I'm not saying the aliens don't exist.
02:02:58.140 I just don't think that, why are they all look humanoid?
02:03:01.460 Why are they always, very rarely do you hear about aliens that aren't in some humanoid facet.
02:03:08.280 There's so many different aliens that we talk about.
02:03:10.340 And I've done a whole episode about all these alien races or whatever you're going to call it.
02:03:15.660 They all kind of look the same.
02:03:17.160 And what are they, us from the future?
02:03:18.800 We've heard it all.
02:03:19.660 You know, and I think that they are demonic.
02:03:22.120 And I think sometimes that fallen angels will take the guys of a gray, depending on if you see a more metaphysical version of one, maybe they're doing it themselves.
02:03:30.920 I mean, I think it's very possible that that happens too.
02:03:33.500 But I think if you're looking at something that's physical, I just think it's a meat sack entity that's created behind the scenes via fallen angels with the help of governments to facilitate this happening.
02:03:47.800 So think about it.
02:03:49.260 If it's a meat sack and it's captured, people wouldn't know.
02:03:53.200 You think it's real.
02:03:54.160 And you're doing, you're dissecting it, looking at it.
02:03:58.100 It's got all the facets of something that's real.
02:04:00.800 So that's a really easy way to fool somebody if it's being controlled by a Nephilim spirit or a demonic entity in and of itself.
02:04:09.920 And I think some of these cryptids could be meat sacks as well that are controlled by these demonic entities.
02:04:14.820 They're just hosts, sacks for them to control.
02:04:18.580 Yeah, absolutely.
02:04:22.900 Listen, I'm at the end of my time here.
02:04:26.300 My daughter just popped in.
02:04:28.380 But this is fascinating, man.
02:04:31.040 It's just like David said, again, it's another piece to the puzzle, but it really does bring together a lot of these other things that are floating around in my mind that might have seemed crazy before or just might have seemed kind of out there.
02:04:44.260 Once you start putting these pieces together, life makes a little bit more sense.
02:04:47.920 But it also makes a lot less sense.
02:04:50.620 It's a lot more shit going on than we're expecting, man.
02:04:54.800 But, brother, thank you for coming and dropping this knowledge on us.
02:04:59.000 I would love to talk more.
02:05:01.840 I mean, this is the kind of guy that could do four and a half hours.
02:05:06.840 I would love to talk more with you, man, because this was great.
02:05:09.920 And I feel like mentally we're kind of all three right at the same level.
02:05:14.680 And that's just great to see, especially in this world where not many people are going to have this conversation with you.
02:05:21.220 Yeah, I appreciate it, guys.
02:05:26.680 I had a blast coming on here.
02:05:28.220 And I love talking about this stuff.
02:05:29.800 And, you know, I had a, you know, I was hoping that technology wouldn't screw up today.
02:05:35.960 But as soon as I get into this Nephilim portal baby thing, man, it's inevitable.
02:05:40.320 I'm telling you, I've had it happen.
02:05:42.180 I don't know how many times I want, like a ton of different people.
02:05:44.940 And I start delving.
02:05:45.840 It just, to me, it validifies that I'm on the right track.
02:05:49.560 Because if something like this is happening every single time, it just, there's no other way to look at it.
02:05:55.200 Yeah.
02:05:55.440 And it didn't happen in the beginning.
02:05:56.740 It happened, like, as we're easing into the conversation, then they're like, okay, now.
02:06:02.380 Not that.
02:06:03.160 Can't say that.
02:06:04.660 Damn.
02:06:06.300 Well, I do want to thank you, Joel, for your time.
02:06:10.500 You know, you and Tony and all these various characters, they're a big, you guys are a big inspiration for me and Top2 in this show.
02:06:18.580 So, I wanted to thank you for your time and even appearing on it.
02:06:23.480 One last time for the audience, if you could shout out Juan Ayala and let everybody know, you know, where they can find you.
02:06:33.880 Shout out to Juan Ayala.
02:06:36.200 You know, that's a pretty normal thing.
02:06:37.720 It's a running joke with he and I, man.
02:06:39.200 We do this stuff all the time.
02:06:40.280 But, yeah, you can find me, Linktree, at slash VanTeslaMusic.
02:06:48.600 You can find me at VanTeslaMusic on Instagram.
02:06:52.140 You can find my music on any streaming platform.
02:06:54.840 Just look for Joel Thomas.
02:06:56.540 Any podcast that I've been a part of, you can just type in Joel Thomas on whatever you're listening to and you can find me there.
02:07:02.400 I've got a ton of stuff coming.
02:07:03.860 Also, any documentaries that I have out right now, you can find on Amazon Prime, Tubi, Apple TV, look for Expedition Dogman, which is my first documentary I did with Tony.
02:07:15.820 We've got another documentary that's out right now called The Shape of Shadows, where we went out to Skinwalker Ranch and hunted down skinwalkers for a week.
02:07:23.700 Just go to theshapeofshadows.com, and you can get that on demand through Vimeo, but it is on the way.
02:07:32.340 It's going to be on Amazon Prime and Apple TV and all that, too.
02:07:36.380 We've got another documentary that's coming first part of next year that we went out to Washington State and hunted down Bigfoot with Wes Germer from Sasquatch Chronicles, and we had a lot of crazy stuff happen to us out there.
02:07:49.200 I'm getting ready to go off on another trip in three weeks.
02:07:52.240 I can't really talk about it, but it's going to be crazy, and I'm pretty jacked to get back out in the woods, so that's going to be cool, too.
02:07:58.880 So, yeah, that's where you can find me.
02:08:02.840 Hell yeah, man.
02:08:03.840 I'm super excited to see what you do next, man.
02:08:06.580 Thank you, guys.
02:08:07.520 I'm Top Lobster.
02:08:09.380 David, plug in.
02:08:10.540 We're going to get out of here, man.
02:08:12.680 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a.
02:08:14.620 The Raven.
02:08:15.140 You can find me on YouTube at The Raven's Watch, and you can find me on Twitter at or X at David underscore Lee.
02:08:22.240 Come chop it up with me.
02:08:25.900 Hell yeah.
02:08:26.760 Peace out, guys.
02:08:27.480 The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner of the room.
02:08:34.600 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.
02:08:38.380 You can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see.
02:08:42.960 Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening, and they have.