007： Cryptids of the Corn w⧸ Justin
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Justin of Cryptids of the Corn joins us to talk about the dark side of the paranormal, and how the government is trying to brainwash us into becoming slaves. We also get into the conspiracy theories that have been circulating around the paranormal community for a long time.
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We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
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The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely true.
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We know we're saying shit what happened to the home of the brave.
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These motherfuckers, they controlling this now.
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And no one's talking about how they made us try to be slaves.
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And everybody's just walking around, heading to clouds.
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By hand it's too late, we need to be ready to raise up.
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Only some are aware that the government releasing points.
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Welcome back, guys, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad,
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the show where we hunt down and expose Nephilim shit.
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And we are here today with Justin of Cryptids of the Corn.
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And before we get into it, is that all right, Top?
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And I found it very disrespectful because I feel very awake.
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It's just he was, like, very, like, tryptophaned out.
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Oh, I'm getting a lot of feedback all of a sudden.
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We're here with Justin of Cryptids of the Corn.
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A little bit about the podcast and where they can find your work.
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I am Justin, aka The Great and Powerful Mystery.
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That's just, you know, I got called that for a long time.
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He was supposed to be here, but he's not able to.
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I was a field biologist out, you know, I was the one that was getting dirty.
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We like to say Cryptids of the Corn is where scientific and magical thinking combine.
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You get a little science lesson with all the paranormal.
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You know, Justin, I'm like, I'm reliving your episode with Tony that I listened to.
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I was cutting my lawn and I was listening to you guys talk about this.
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And as you were like going through the field, I just listen.
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So now that I'm putting a face to it, it really rounds out the story for me.
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Could you want to recap that for the people that don't know?
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Because a lot of people are like, who's Cryptids of the Corn?
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I think you were talking about, was it like the dudes with guns?
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So everything from like little tiny headwaters, which are like a foot wide, to the great big rivers.
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Sorry, my Wi-Fi is like really bad today for some reason.
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If you've ever seen like people shock fish on TV and stuff like that, that's what I did for a living.
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I did all the math and the science behind it too.
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So what you do is you catch all the fish in a designated zone and it gives you species and numbers and all this stuff.
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Basically, it gives you a river health score by the end of it.
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Because there should be certain numbers of, you know, everything from low level feeders to higher level to apexes.
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But you had to do everything in the watershed, even if there's no fish presence.
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So seriously, we'd do creeks that were four or five inches wide with no fish.
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But you have to do them to prove there's no fish.
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You can't just stop and look and be like, because there's stuff called like least starters, which they only live to be one year old.
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And so they live their whole life cycles in these tiny streams.
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So they're very important though, because their offspring feeds stuff higher trophic level down the stream.
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So these sites are either done every year, every two years, every three years, five years, or seven years, depending on what the survey is requiring, what kind of stuff you're testing to see if it's getting better or worse.
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You know, immediately, let's say like wastewater treatment or chemical plants, you know, that kind of stuff.
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If they just put legislation on them or just put different restrictions on them, you know, you're going to want to check it every year or every other year.
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Because you're trying to see if it's immediately getting better or getting worse or staying the same relatively quickly.
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For these surveys that are already like the, you know, they're 20 years in and you kind of, they kind of flatlined, you know, they're stabilizing.
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You know, you kind of dial back and you start doing those maybe every seven years just to make sure there's not a problem going to occur, but you don't need to be out there.
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So most of the time when you do these seven year surveys, the biology crew is completely different, even though it's the same company.
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Because, you know, everybody's moving up, getting different jobs, all this stuff.
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So, you know, the crew that did the seven years before would leave you, it's called the field sheet.
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It tells you where the site is, the exact geo coordinates, where it starts, where it stops and how to get there.
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They're normally either taped to that in our lockbox or they, you know, they're in a lockbox and they tell you what number key it is.
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Because we were doing, you know, we did surveys.
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We were from Ohio, but this was out in Illinois.
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So, you know, these are, you know, huge swaths of land.
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So this is a seven year survey site and it's a headwater site.
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We had one site that took six hours counting fish.
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No, it's so we are doing this survey in a certain part of Illinois and we've never done this survey before.
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So we just got to check all these sites one time.
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So it says you drive down this road and there's a big gate and then we have the key for it.
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You know, it's like it's not really a road anymore.
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You can't see it unless you knew what you were going for.
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But we had the map and we get to this gate and it's all rusted over, grown over and stuff like that.
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Because, you know, it's hard to imagine that a key wouldn't work if you're not in the right spot.
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And it's on the back of what then, you know, the seven years prior to when we did this was a biology lab.
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So we most time there's a company we pay to alert people who are going to be doing the survey.
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Sometimes they don't do a very good job, i.e. what's happened here.
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So we go in and we drive out to the middle of this big grassy field.
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And this creek, I swear to you, is like six, seven inches wide.
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And there's a big oil pipe like 150 yards away, except it's like a 12-foot diameter pipe.
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We're sitting there looking at this thing like, we've never seen a pipe that big.
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How many thousands of gallons a second of oil can they be doing?
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To explain what a backpack shocking unit looks like, it has a...
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And there's a tail behind us and a tail in this weird wand-looking thing in front.
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And then they had cameras and we had QACI cases.
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That if you weren't in our field, it'd be very hard to tell what it does.
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Like, even a water monitoring system, you know, all this stuff.
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Surrounded us, screaming at us what we're doing, what we're doing, what we're doing.
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And they're looking at this little creek, this little ditch.
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And there's, you know, finally the guy comes out, the main guy.
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Because we had broken onto this compound with all this fear.
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So the main guy comes out and he takes all of our phones, he takes the camera,
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and he takes all of our licenses and goes away.
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And we're just out in this field with these guys.
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And finally, the guy comes back and he gives us our licenses.
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And he's like, well, the survey, we caught a hold of the old site operator.
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He told us, yeah, you were supposed to do the survey.
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And he never informed us that there was a survey on this land.
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Like four or five days later, we were like, let's just drive by and see what the thing is.
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Because we were on the backside of the building.
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Are you under an NDA because of the sensitivity of the area that you were at?
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Or you just don't want the fish heads coming back?
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A lot of the stuff we did is still being used for legal massive court cases.
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So we're not allowed to talk about a lot of the stuff in the areas we were in and stuff like that
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I had no idea that there was something called a fish surveyor.
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I'm probably just as surprised as those guards were.
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I barely believe you right now after you told me.
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You're just going around and electrocuting fish.
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You wouldn't be surprised how many people think that.
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So the amount of electricity we're putting in the water is they're not actually getting knocked out.
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And then you count them, weigh them, and then put them back.
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The way I was thinking was earlier you're like, oh, yeah, we surveyed the overall health of the river.
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I'm like, it's got to drop significantly after you tase all the fish.
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You would not be surprised how many people think.
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Generally, the smaller fish do better in these surveys than the bigger fish because it's all about the mass.
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Electricity, you know, when it hits these fish, you know, hitting me and you in the water hits a lot harder.
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You'll see little fish that are still swimming through the electrical field like it's nothing that me and you would hit,
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and we'd break our teeth by how hard we'd bite on them.
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So do you think that that 12-foot-in-diameter pipeline, that probably would have led straight into the facility?
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Oh, that was the actual circle, the collider itself.
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There are probably 150 cameras back there seeing us unpack this truck with all the boat musters here.
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They're probably ready for all kinds of terrorism.
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And there's three weird guys in wetsuits with pulling out equipment out of the back of a truck.
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Yo, Justin, you are very lucky that they sent the guards to you and not the dogmen.
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Because I've been listening to some Tony Merkel lately, and it seems like these government facilities are just guarded by, like, they're talking about dolphin people, dogmen.
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If we'd have been in the evening or the morning, we probably would have got.
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Yeah, you wouldn't have looked at your credentials.
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I just love how easy it is to sneak onto a large hydronic collider base, too, by the way.
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Okay, not a large, but a small particle accelerator.
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And I don't even know that one, because that was the discussion after we were on Tony's show, if that one's still in operation or not.
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I think local communities found out what it was shortly later.
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Because they never, here's the thing is, that place, and I can't name it, that place was a lab that got bought out by the government, but never made it public that they got bought out.
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So they kind of were trying to operate as being, it's still a giant biology lab, or just, you know, a science lab.
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And they were trying to keep operating that, that it wasn't government now.
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Well, okay, so more so the question that I'm interested in is, is there any part of you, in a very hypothetical way, in a fantasy scenario, where you would, maybe if you were writing a work of fiction, had an interest in going and seeing if this base was still in operation?
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I know they changed the fence about a week after we were there, so that gate's no longer there.
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No, I mean, if I was ever out in that area, I would drive past it again, just to kind of see if it's still there or not.
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So, so how does this, how does this all end for you?
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Eventually they just, you know, you're sitting there for a long time until they get the A-OK that it just was scheduled but wasn't announced.
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It was because we were legally allowed to be there because the survey was, I can't name, okay.
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The survey was from a pretty high authority, so legally we were allowed to be there, and then they had to argue it out,
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So there was a lot of arguments between two different big groups because the one group needed the survey to go through,
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and the other group didn't want the survey to go through, and we were just the idiots on the ground.
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That agency is like, we got to count these fish in this tiny stream, and they're like, listen,
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we're trying to change the course of the past and also the future with this.
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I think, yeah, fish are lower than muddying up the timelines.
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So that's a very interesting story and definitely sounds like you were really lucky.
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Yeah, you were at the sort of the butthole of a particle accelerator, and things went pretty decent for you.
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So before we get into these cryptids, I would very much like to know what got you into cryptids,
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because obviously here you are, you've dedicated an entire show.
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Yeah, I think we're like at 215 public episodes.
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This is episode number seven of Nephilim Death Squad.
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So according to some statistics, that means that if we make it past seven episodes, we'll have a successful podcast.
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That's why we booked another one tomorrow immediately so that we can get straight over the hump and just keep going.
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But I mean, your episodes are an hour to two hours long.
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So you're looking at, I forget what the number you just said is, but you're in hundreds of hours.
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So that is, you ever stop and think about that?
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Like there's 600 hours of me on the internet just talking the craziest shit that anybody's ever heard.
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And one day I'm going to die and people are going to look back and go, what the fuck was this Ghostbuster on about?
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But like, do you, there's got to be a moment where, or a series of moments that lead you to be interested in cryptids.
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Was it something that you were always interested in from a child or was it something that you stumbled upon and it just lit the fire?
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And I always wanted to be a biologist growing up as a kid.
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And you'll hear when we get to the list, there's quite a few of them on there.
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But I did end up having a Bigfoot encounter when I was a teenager, which will probably be a story for another day because we just, we don't have time for that.
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That's how crazy the show might be that we're like, we're just going to gloss over the Bigfoot story and go with the next thing.
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No, but the short version is I did, I seen basically the silhouette of one when I was about 17 at our family farm with my dad and my brother.
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And I still didn't believe in Bigfoot probably three years after that, three or four years after that, because I was getting ready to go to school to be a biologist.
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And biologists don't believe in Bigfoot and that's wrong.
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I now know that's wrong, but going into school, it's what you're expecting to know.
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Now you see these TV shows and all that, and that really helped.
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Yeah, but when you saw the silhouette, you went, water cryptids are still where it's at, dude.
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It's because the ocean, you know, I mean, we just discovered a brand new species of whale just a couple of years ago, and it's 70 feet long.
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You know, it weighs as much as five semi-trailers.
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So the ocean and these big bodies of water are much easier to hide something than you think than, you know, these woods out in the middle of Ohio.
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You know, I worked for, I worked with endangered species.
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I went out and I found, especially where we had one survey where the government said we would not find this species and we found it.
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So I found, we found, it's called extirpated, they're locally extinct when we re-found them, so they're now back.
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So let's say the animal has a really big range of where it lives in the world.
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It means, but extirpated means it's extinct in this whole part of its range.
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So, so then let's, let's get into, you sort of have compiled a list for us.
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I asked for essentially your greatest hits or the things that you found to be the coolest, because you asked me what I wanted to talk about, but you're the cryptid guy and I want to hear about what excites you.
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So, like, a lot of people are of the belief that cryptids might be just, like, animals or different kinds of things on the loose.
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Some think that they're spiritual, like, Nephilim sort of thing.
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Where does this fall for you, someone who's a biologist, who's like, because you're not looking at it the way we would.
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We're looking at it for fun, like, this shit is really cool.
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There might be a dog, man, or, you know, a giant gorilla.
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But you're looking at it as, like, part of your job.
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Well, if you look at the definition of the word cryptid, it kind of has three major components to it right now.
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The actual definition of a cryptid is an animal undiscovered by science.
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So the okopi is a good example, you know, relatively recently discovered by science.
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But the locals have been talking about it for, you know, thousands of years in Africa.
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They talk, the home of the okopi in the conga rainforest is called the Valley of the Giraffes.
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And they would say that there's these giraffes that live in the rainforest.
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And everybody's like, there's no giraffes that live in a rainforest.
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The okopi is the only other living member of the giraffe family.
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And we're talking about the size of something, you know, the size of about a moose.
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And I believe it was like 1960s, 1950s, the first one we ever had.
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The first actual documented silverback gorilla was in the early 1900s.
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You know, they're in the rainforest or in these scrub, you know, forests.
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So that's kind of that first one is this undiscovered animal.
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The other one, the next definition, is an unextinct animal.
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So that's like the coelacanth is a good example of that.
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This big prehistoric fish went extinct, you know, 65 million years ago.
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And then the people off of Madagascar would be like, yeah, we catch them all the time.
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And then it was actually, I believe, I can't think of her name.
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And she was pretty famous for this, rediscovering that.
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There's baby pigeons in the backyard right now, Juan.
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I just sent it to our studio, our production room chat.
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And I would love to get an actual biologist's perspective on whatever the hell this thing is.
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But we've got a lot of different things about this, or I have, at least this morning, from a chicken to a monkey.
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And I want to believe that it is a tiny hybrid creature.
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And I know you're going to dash my dreams upon the rocks, and I'm fine with that, but I do want to get your opinion on it.
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For those who don't know who's listening, I can talk about an actor on the front but you don't want us to see the spits out.
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monkey in a wig come on dude that's not just a monkey in a wig somebody said it's a fucking
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pokemon yeah i can see that top top what do you think is that a monkey in a wig i don't know what
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that is man it's that so that brings up a good question like is a cryptid like classically what
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we consider a cryptid would be like a species of something this just looks like some kind of like
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freak like some like nephilim freak it was it was in iran yeah i mean a grainy photo and somebody
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screaming a different language uh before i forget real fast the third type of cryptid
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is i put on a monkey in a wig for you no it's i will forget here in a second that's how my brain
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advisor free of charge uh so like here in ohio we have kangaroos seen a lot and in michigan right
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now they're having an emu problem uh so if you don't know if it's it's fauna that's from somewhere
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else that you know if you're an emu in australia you'd know what an emu is yeah but if you see one
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running through the woods of michigan you'd be like what the hell's that wait you really know
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you're not joking there's kangaroo in michigan is that what you're saying no kangaroo are seen a lot
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in ohio so kangaroos and wallabies can actually handle the cold pretty well like wallabies are
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taking over a big chunk of the uk right now uh they're real big invasive problem and a small group
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of emu got out in michigan and now i believe the flock is like 24 members there was like four or five
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of them got out originally it's like their third year escape from a zoo issue a private zoo yeah
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so but that's the third type of cryptid is an animal that is documented that is not where it's
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supposed to be right right so what do you make of the idea of a cryptid that is of considerable
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intelligence um something that's much closer to us you know especially when people talk about bigfoot
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and things like that they say when you look in its face and its eyes you know it's like looking into the
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eyes of something that is sentient or something that's almost human um and this idea that they are
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not restricted to this plane or this realm do you subscribe to any of that do you entertain any of
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that yeah so the paranormal in the scientific the only real difference of them right now is
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understanding you know we're calling everything we don't understand at all paranormal but really it's
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all the same you know whether you want to science you know 100 years ago we're talking this is this
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is magic right now that we're doing 100 years ago you try to tell somebody we're going to be sitting
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down three different places talking hundreds of miles thousands of miles away from each other
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with all these people watching and listening yeah right that's not real that's not uh so this
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interdimensional aspect to the animals i do think there are some animals that are interdimensional
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here's the question are they from here are they a part of what's called our biosphere
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so a biosphere is our family tree our tree of life everything that's from here is connected
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you know we share dna with plants and animals in fungus on our biosphere so the question is is it
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from somewhere else and it's popping over to our side or vice versa is it something that came from here
00:30:49.560
that has the ability to access another dimension or even a pocket dimension so there's this whole thing
00:30:54.960
and we just talked about on our show a couple weeks ago called hyper evolution we don't
00:30:58.860
sorry my wi-fi is bad we don't see it very often in our biosphere and what hyper evolution is is an
00:31:07.780
animal will keep evolving keep evolving keep evolving and i don't believe in the whole theory
00:31:10.920
of evolution that's you know that's cutting hairs though uh some good examples are some crustaceans
00:31:17.300
they have survived several mass extinctions and they've gotten to the point where they've started
00:31:20.980
to evolve really weird things that are breaking the laws of physics so you guys ever heard of
00:31:26.660
manis shrimp and pistol shrimp yeah they're the ones that can lock their uh claws into a position and
00:31:32.520
then it sort of snaps out and upon impact creates a a tiny shock wave of sorts and and uh knocks out
00:31:39.100
their their prey or their the manis shrimp the drumming manis shrimp have a hammer that is cocked back
00:31:46.060
they hit so hard and so fast it creates an implosion underwater it's that same explosive
00:31:55.120
payout power of a 22 caliber bullet with no acceleration so it's highly impressive it actually breaks our
00:32:01.440
current understanding of the laws of physics so we it's one of these things where it's magic because
00:32:07.080
we can't explain it with science but we can watch it happen we can see that they're doing this
00:32:11.980
but it's not traditionally explainable the other one is the pistol shrimp which if you've ever seen a pistol
00:32:17.860
shrimp they're tiny little uh shrimp looking creatures they have one really big heavy arm and the rest
00:32:23.420
of their body is really small and they have a claw that cocks back like that and when it uncocks
00:32:30.700
it shoots a jet of superheated water that cooks their food alive internally uh i believe it's a couple
00:32:37.160
thousand degrees when it hits uh it pretty much fries and you know these guys are very small though
00:32:42.040
we're not talking about something the size of a lobster we're talking about something you could
00:32:45.480
fit several of them in your hand uh so these are examples of animals breaking the the traditional
00:32:51.500
understandings of the laws of biology and the laws of physics so where they're hyper evolved so if we're
00:32:57.860
talking about this on a bigger scale or bigger animals you know they can get to the points to where
00:33:02.480
they start looking like from the outside they're breaking down the laws of physics but they're not
00:33:08.700
they've evolved to you know to take advantage of these new niches these new resources these new
00:33:12.960
abilities whether it's to hunt let's say you are popping in and out of dimensions or even just kind
00:33:17.660
of sidestepping you know if you're sidestepping one foot here one foot there and we've heard that
00:33:22.320
talked about with bigfoot and dark man and some of these other beings that'd be a hell of a way to hunt
00:33:27.040
it'd also be a hell of a way to hide if you know you want to believe more traditional literature
00:33:31.580
with sasquatch they're most of the time they're going to take the hiding route over the confronting
00:33:36.480
route so how many stories have you heard and we've had plenty of people in our show to where
00:33:41.040
they're watching a sasquatch is eight nine foot tall being this muscular being disappear it's not there
00:33:47.600
anymore where'd it go you know did it sidestep you know some people say that they have the glimmer like
00:33:52.980
they're you know camouflaged but the whole thing is they don't have to you don't have to exclude the
00:34:00.080
two science and the paranormal can walk hand in hand i guess is the really long way of saying that
00:34:04.400
you know maybe it was actually you uh because i listen to so many podcasts and it all kind of
00:34:10.820
um melds together but this idea of when you look at a uh a speaker that's turned up really high
00:34:18.320
especially a bass speaker and it vibrates in such a way that it just kind of becomes a blur
00:34:23.260
right and it'll also uh bend sort of the the metal of the car where not in a permanent way but
00:34:31.560
the metal will actually begin to wave if it's subjected to enough bass speaker and so the idea
00:34:39.260
that maybe there is a mechanism at play with maybe bigfoot where uh it can generate something like
00:34:45.740
you were saying infrasound or something like that where the surrounding foliage actually starts to
00:34:52.300
visually mesh with it when it emits this thing because it's vibrating and it causes its surroundings
00:34:57.880
to vibrate and then it all kind of blurs together or fades into one thing and it becomes very hard to
00:35:03.220
see them and also maybe that's the same mechanism that's at play when people say that uh the growl
00:35:10.120
that's emitted by some of these cryptids causes paralysis in a way there's such an intense level of
00:35:16.400
fear and they can feel it in their chests and in their bones and in their you know throughout their
00:35:20.480
entire body uh and i know that crocodiles can do something i think it's crocodiles can do something
00:35:26.420
like that where you'd be surprised the the the magnitude of the noise that they can make and it's
00:35:32.520
enough to shock yeah right or like a big cat when it growls uh a lot of the times people who have
00:35:39.820
experienced that will you know describe sort of a paralysis you know this such a fear that it locks
00:35:46.440
your whole body up and so it's interesting to think that that could be generated by a natural
00:35:52.320
biological function and that it's not necessarily some it doesn't have to be a technology it doesn't
00:35:56.940
have to be like you were saying magic uh it's just a a form of biology that we don't understand and
00:36:02.000
it's still operating within our physics but we just don't understand it yet yeah and then with
00:36:07.180
infrasound it can create uh audio and visual hallucinations it can create suicidal and depressive
00:36:13.100
thoughts and humans uh the suicide cliffs in california was recently finally explained and
00:36:18.220
they had to move a bunch of stuff i don't know you ever heard about those no so the suicide cliffs
00:36:24.480
uh are famous because a bunch of people jumped off them on the coastway of california uh but it wasn't
00:36:29.820
just suicidal people is the thing people would be driving and just stop to get gas at a gas station
00:36:34.740
right there on this highway and they just walk off the cliff and you know they'd be there to just pump
00:36:39.280
up their car like they'd leave everything so it's it's very odd and finally i figured out the way
00:36:44.000
that the cove isn't centered it was actually creating a giant infrasound of pulse that people
00:36:49.480
that may have been more susceptible to this were getting hit hard and actively killing themselves
00:36:54.220
and there's been some examples of people being around elephants they've experienced high levels
00:36:58.300
of depression because of part of the way elephants talk was with the infrasound actually talk with
00:37:03.240
infrasound to the ground uh do you think do you think it's the vibration itself that would cause
00:37:08.780
that would that would affect the person it's growing with your brain chemistry it's messing with you
00:37:13.240
uh we're you know we're big we're electricity piling bags of meat so we are very susceptible
00:37:21.960
to vibrations you know we're we're we're wetware you know so the same stuff that you see affects animals
00:37:28.140
the same effects environment affects us uh but yeah so infrasound is this weird thing and you
00:37:33.960
talk about with big all these people getting hit with the fear and peeing themselves or running away
00:37:37.640
or freezing and you said can i ask you something before we move on because you might be able to
00:37:42.020
explain this to me uh how does the moon affect us in this way because it it's i'm not quite sure that
00:37:47.820
it's vibrating but it's definitely pulling so tidal force so tidal force is a little is a little weird
00:37:53.580
i don't know i'm not a big believer that it's super affecting us besides maybe the psychology
00:37:59.360
side of it and i'm not a psychologist i can just tell you what our bodies are uh you are never absent
00:38:05.200
from the push and pull of the moon the cycles of the moon do not affect its push and pull as far as
00:38:11.220
with us directly uh now the moon is faking gay or maybe it's one shout out one island the moon is
00:38:20.440
i also want to whatever it's doing is i don't know i feel like it's absolutely fake yeah but but
00:38:26.180
before you get away with it because i could feel we're going someplace else i have this thought in
00:38:30.380
my mind of um sleep paralysis or you know the times that people experience paranormal entities
00:38:36.140
and especially in the paralysis there's often this deep vibrational electric kind of current sensation
00:38:43.160
and it's also accompanied with a tremendous amount of fear dread like doom mortal doom and it's a very
00:38:49.560
unique uh feeling because in in waking life it's very uh few and far in between that you're going
00:38:55.660
to experience that level of doom i've experienced it myself and i've also been in crazy situations in
00:39:01.740
life that have never provoked that kind of an emotion from me and yet this buzzing sensation this
00:39:06.900
electrical vibration whatever you want to call it a lot of people describe it different ways but it
00:39:11.620
all sounds like it's the same thing will also be accompanied with this feeling of doom so
00:39:16.300
you have this presence of some sort of frequency right like we're describing with the infrasound
00:39:22.240
uh and you also have it being accompanied with the sensation of doom or extreme fear um but yet it's
00:39:31.080
coming from a source that isn't tangible that's not you know there beyond you actually snapping out of
00:39:39.820
the paralysis and having whatever the hallucinations are remember remember the story i was telling when uh we
00:39:45.500
had one on they uh they did the testing um like the emergency broadcast test oh yeah yeah yeah i had i had
00:39:53.300
actually put my phone in a faraday box and i went out with my kids to uh the trampoline and we're just
00:39:59.040
like jumping on it looking up and all of a sudden this all the cicadas in the tree start just
00:40:04.440
vibrating in unison like vibrating the tree where my daughter was like she thinks that there's bees
00:40:10.740
around that's how like intensive the buzzing was so i get out and i go to my house because
00:40:16.640
there's contractors there and the second that i go up to them their phones start boop boop boop going
00:40:21.840
off with the emergency broadcast that they were like sending through so i was like that's really
00:40:27.180
interesting that it to me it appears like it's traveling in like a wave like an actual wave
00:40:32.340
and then picked up by their phones yeah it's a wave exactly well we don't see it right the the
00:40:38.240
bugs reacted to it so so for the weird the sleep prowess i think the sleep prowess thing is like
00:40:44.100
three or four different things we're categorizing i think some of it probably is our own brain chemistry
00:40:48.720
playing tricks on us but i do believe in the entities too i do believe something is going on
00:40:54.500
there screwing with us uh whether you want to believe it's aliens or international creatures or
00:40:58.620
demons you know it's really take your pick at that point uh they're none of them are really good
00:41:03.720
uh it's embodied spirits of the nephilim there you go i was gonna say where's one at or where's all at
00:41:10.620
uh and then for the cicadas reacting we know our radio cell waves and television waves affect insects
00:41:19.740
flat out uh that's hyval collapse syndrome in bees here in the u.s here's something all you people may
00:41:26.180
not know every species of bumblebee in the u.s is endangered i guarantee almost 90 of you have not
00:41:37.260
seen a bumblebee this year not a carpenter bee they're different because a hyval collapse syndrome
00:41:43.880
we were just talking about that like an episode or two episodes ago coupled that with this idea of
00:41:55.980
uh einstein saying that you know human beings have x amount of time left on the planet if anything
00:42:02.300
should happen to the bee colonies that's a really bad uh paraphrase of what he said but it's clear
00:42:07.140
that you know bees are integral to our survival on this planet and we were also talking about yeah
00:42:12.880
frequencies uh disrupting their flight patterns and uh you see what was the terminology you used for
00:42:18.960
hyval breakdown or something like that hyval collapse syndrome uh and there's a lot of evidence
00:42:24.140
pointing it's actually cell phones causing it to where they're using the same frequencies to try to
00:42:28.920
travel and communicate with each other and they're getting lost so there's all these colonies that the
00:42:33.240
workers leave and they just never find their way home and these have remarkably good navigation you
00:42:40.020
know these animals have been around for quite a long time and have done very well to where now almost
00:42:45.280
all of the flora of the planet rely on them in some way shape or form for reproduction
00:42:49.880
uh and to more of this man-made horrors they are now making pollinating machines because parts of
00:42:57.780
our country not in the world parts of our country are no longer having pollination and have you ever
00:43:04.020
seen there's these giant feather machines that just kind of bat around the leaves and stuff like that
00:43:09.380
trying to get the pollen to spread because it's so incredibly hard to do for people to do it
00:43:13.520
uh it's almost like you know there's this thing made to do it in nature and they're all gone for
00:43:17.660
some reason uh but no it's it's odd i feel like i forgot you know you just blew my mind when you
00:43:26.880
said that because i was thinking about this whole summer i was like i didn't see one goddamn beat
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charge that's actually yeah i actually have a hard time differentiating between a bumblebee and a
00:44:05.600
and a uh and a carpenter well because i know down here we have like these giant horrifying bees but
00:44:13.280
they actually burrow into the ground they're not bees at all and they have like a striped black and
00:44:17.460
white abdomen and they're absolutely massive and and horrifying but i don't think that they're the
00:44:22.880
bees that that we need so we can probably get rid how come we're not disrupting like the flight
00:44:26.940
patterns of wasps and hornets and those fucking monstrosities we should be disrupting the flight
00:44:32.360
patterns of uh jeffrey epstein's plane there you go to do that there you go no it's just uh it's just
00:44:39.660
about how their systems work you know wasp and hornets are much more visual you know they have
00:44:44.100
if you look at their eyes compared to their bodies they have gigantic eyes they're using that they're
00:44:48.960
not traveling as far away from their hives either you know these guys are carnivores uh they're not
00:44:54.280
obligate carnivores where they're only eating meat but they're mostly eating meat of you know other
00:44:58.220
bugs meat you know you see a dead animal wasp in the summer up here in ohio are all over it
00:45:03.720
bees are you know eating pollen you know they're actually well they're catching pollen they're
00:45:07.880
actually eating nectar and making honey out of that do you think these other things are carnivorous
00:45:12.840
monsters do you think this is a concerted effort do you or do you just think it's one of those
00:45:16.980
things that happens because we've kind of we're using alien technology i think it's just i think it's
00:45:23.500
just one of these things that happen that when you don't care the industrial evolution proved that
00:45:27.880
like ohio horned serpents is a cryptid uh they were so regularly seen in the ohio river pre-industrial
00:45:34.520
revolution that they would talk about in the ship's logs as almost like landmarks you know they were
00:45:39.520
these big long 60 foot long serpents that had either one two or three humps on their head and that's
00:45:45.920
why they're called ohio horned serpents they're not talking about in fear or revile or myth you know
00:45:50.420
they were talking about as it's seen in the animal uh this second pretty much industrial revolution
00:45:54.740
started in the hot river gone every one of them gone and that's we see that a lot with
00:45:59.540
hyperspeciated species where they really specialize in something or they're really sensitive to
00:46:03.840
environmental change they just leave or they die out you know and we talk about that a lot like you
00:46:09.460
look at the eels left too uh so i think it's just what happens when you forget that you're just as much
00:46:17.440
a part of the environment as that bee or as that ohio horned serpent all right so we we know that uh
00:46:28.720
you think some of these things may be interdimensional that's still on the table
00:46:34.120
um we know that you suspect there's probably something to these paranormal entities sleep
00:46:40.960
paralysis things of that nature uh we know that our cell phone frequencies are turning the bees gay
00:46:46.860
uh so let's get into this list that you have of uh of of your favorite cryptids because i think it's
00:46:54.520
definitely uh you know at that stage in the in the podcast where i'd like to hear that all right so
00:47:00.040
first things first let's talk about bob bob's not technically a cryptid bob is uh so fungus are
00:47:06.460
actually much more intelligent than any but mushrooms are much more intelligent anybody gives
00:47:10.560
credit for we did an episode a couple a couple months back about arguing about fungal intelligence
00:47:14.600
and they're passing some cognitive tests they're actually using them in computer chips right now
00:47:18.820
because they do processing power much more efficiently and better than any electronic ever
00:47:24.040
that we're integrating them in that episode just came out yesterday okay i gotta listen to that shit
00:47:30.440
how are mushrooms passing a cognitive test what cognitive tests can you uh uh expose a mushroom
00:47:36.760
to that it's gonna perform in the the quick and dirty uh because there's these are very big long
00:47:43.140
experiments that uh you know we could talk about each experiment for several hours but uh basically
00:47:48.920
the first one is we figured out they could count and they could manage resources uh so they would
00:47:54.580
hoard off food that was close to the main body so you when you see a mushroom above the ground
00:47:59.240
that is the sexual body that is like the fruit of the giant mycelium network underneath the ground
00:48:04.760
mushrooms and fungus themselves actually look like imagine you took a big bundle of wires and cables
00:48:09.520
and you threw them on the ground that's the actual fungal body underneath the ground
00:48:14.340
it's this big almost like a neural network right the actual organ and they're communicating across
00:48:22.500
vast expanses with this giant mycelium uh construct okay okay so an individual strand of
00:48:28.860
mycelia so mycelia are the big bundles the big like big big cables the individual strands the
00:48:35.060
individual string are called hyphae so hyphae are ungodly tiny and they're able to do such amazing
00:48:42.320
things and mycelia are also very amazing but anyways before we get that so they figured out they
00:48:48.260
could count what that means is uh they did both resource management stuff so the mycelia the fungal
00:48:53.380
colonies would wall off food that was closer to the main colony's body so they'd wall it off wall it
00:49:00.660
off wall it off and then they'd go out to eat stuff and basically how they figured out they could count
00:49:05.180
is they had let's say four pieces of food they had blocked off researcher went in removed one took it
00:49:12.140
out of the equation mycelia colony counted and like oh i only got three pieces of food so then it walled off
00:49:18.220
another one so it wanted to have four it always wanted to have four pieces of food when times got
00:49:23.100
hard but it would spread its body way way out far to to feed and it wouldn't feed right away close to
00:49:29.480
it so that's showing levels of intelligence you can argue how much intelligence but it's showing
00:49:33.580
levels of intelligence with resource management and the ability to count to at least four or five
00:49:38.500
raccoons can count to six ravens can count to about 10 or 12 so we're already talking about certain
00:49:44.820
levels of animal intelligence how high can a lobster count huh how high do lobsters count
00:49:50.620
their lobsters can't fucking count dude they can't count at all they're kind of immortal
00:49:55.000
there you go i gave one for both of you all right uh yeah please take a side damn it i just love
00:50:06.780
helping just love helping out uh yeah so they could count and they also figured out they put them
00:50:11.860
through a stress test so they uh mushrooms can actually intercommunicate between different
00:50:19.520
species so not their own species of mushroom but they can communicate with other species of mushroom
00:50:26.980
and pass very complex information off and we're not really sure how they do this we just know they
00:50:32.040
do this and here's i'll tell you how they we know they do it they had a box with about 15 colonies
00:50:36.260
of different species of mushroom in it uh in this basically big box of dirt they put this box of dirt
00:50:43.420
through the worst heat and drought there where most of the species died maybe one or two survived
00:50:49.860
then they had this giant box with about 100 or 115 species and this giant box was like mushroom
00:50:57.020
paradise all these mushrooms in this never knew any hardship you know so they were pretty much living
00:51:01.620
they took the survivors from the apocalypse box and put them into the to the paradise box
00:51:08.660
and then they turned the paradise box into the death box so with the first death box like 95 of the
00:51:16.700
mushrooms died the second death time they did the death box with the big colonies with keep in mind most
00:51:22.220
these colonies have never experienced a hardship 95 survived wow so that shows that this colonies that
00:51:31.460
survived the hardship they figured out how to resource water how to resource food during these extreme
00:51:35.140
droughts and heats they went over there and they told everybody hey this is how you survive this we
00:51:39.320
figured it out here's how we need to do and they all did it they all survived with flying it's so much
00:51:45.340
dramatic and it's dr p money from the miami university here in ohio that did those studies
00:51:49.440
and like i said that's the very simplified version of those studies uh they're gonna fucking kill us
00:51:56.780
if they wanted to they would have done it a long time ago i agree yeah it seems like they're
00:52:01.300
trying to help us like mushrooms just have great benefits all around we're just a blip on their
00:52:06.240
screen so i think because uh the oldest the oldest complex fossil we have is a mycelia network it's
00:52:12.100
about 500 million years old and it's a complex mycelia network and it's very similar to the ones we
00:52:17.300
have today so they were that complex 500 million years ago and so they've just been chilling so we're
00:52:25.020
just extras on like on the mushrooms or the or the yeah we're just the next guy in line incredible
00:52:32.320
now bob wild yeah yeah what is bob please explain bob what is bob bob is the single largest living
00:52:40.300
organism ever as far as we can tell uh if you kind of squished his body together he's 2200 acres uh you
00:52:50.140
know squared so he's insanely big he's actually an entire state for
00:52:55.640
sorry he's actually an entire state forest out in oregon is on his back bob is a honey mushroom
00:53:03.320
he's a pink honey mushroom uh so how we discovered bob is bob they drilled in to do a core sample in
00:53:09.640
the 1900s in this forest and 100 acres of trees died the next day so mushrooms actually we used to
00:53:17.140
think it was more of a democracy trading back and forth resources but now we know it's more
00:53:20.860
one-sided mushrooms have the ability to integrate into plants and control them and insects so bob
00:53:29.420
was controlling bob actually controls the entire forest on his back he's integrated his mycelia and
00:53:34.020
hyphae networks into the trees and is running them but it benefits the forest too because he keeps a
00:53:38.620
perfectly healthy sustaining environment so through now soil sample evidence we found out bob
00:53:44.260
systematically kills sections of forest on his back to promote grassland growth to re-nutrify the
00:53:50.980
soil and he does this like a big clock it's very scary because you're describing that if the mushrooms
00:53:55.980
did take over it would be a dictatorship and there would be a lot of genocide i just think we would
00:54:00.460
already be dead i'm just telling you we'd already be dead they'd have got rid of us a long time ago
00:54:04.640
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00:54:42.080
decides that he's had enough he's he's 45 000 years old estimates you know put him on he's 45 000 years
00:54:49.080
young uh he's got two sisters the one's 25 000 and one's 15 000 years old uh they're not nearly as big
00:54:56.440
as him but they're still substantially large um so for here in the u.s healthy soil per square inch
00:55:04.320
should have six meters of mycelia network or like six what is it it's like six or seven hundred
00:55:11.040
feet or six or seven hundred miles of hyphae wow per square inch mushrooms are the giant wolf the world
00:55:18.800
the world wide web is actually mycelia networks they're in the bottom of the ocean we found them in
00:55:23.900
both the ice caps on the planet we found them in the upper atmosphere they're everywhere fungus rule
00:55:30.120
the world and you're just living in it what do you make of this idea that you know we're always
00:55:36.160
cautioned against and i'm not certainly not giving anybody advice to eat mushrooms but you're always
00:55:40.360
cautioned against eating any mushrooms that you find out in the wild and it's it's my opinion
00:55:45.740
an entirely uneducated opinion that that caution is very hyperbolic like the the percentage of uh
00:55:53.780
mushrooms that will actually kill you are it's like upper 90 percent are edible and won't kill you
00:56:01.880
maybe we'll make you a little bit sick but won't kill you there's a big range in the middle
00:56:06.220
they are not good to eat but they won't kill you okay okay that's that big section in the middle
00:56:16.060
uh the problem is is it really depends on what species much me and my wife go foraging for
00:56:21.040
mushrooms and stuff like that and i i believe mushrooms are actually sentient i think you're
00:56:25.420
fine to harvest them just put them in a burlap sack or you know potato bag so the spores can spread
00:56:30.000
that's the fruiting body is what it's supposed to do to spread spores as long as you're helping
00:56:33.480
them spread spores i think you're okay but when you uh what was i saying before that oh my gosh
00:56:42.160
that's like a tiny mom was gonna turn on us and he's gonna uh eventually infect us and we're gonna
00:56:47.300
have a mass uh what's that movie um the last of us where cordyceps mushrooms uh take over our our
00:56:53.860
corpses and and turn us into rage monsters i think you were just in the rage monsters part
00:56:58.460
cordyceps like they like insects and insects and vertebrates because they need them as a part of
00:57:03.500
the reproductive cycle there were mushrooms are really weird with that stuff uh but no if if they
00:57:10.020
wanted mushrooms good yeah mushrooms are good oh no sorry that uh eating the mushroom that's what
00:57:16.520
we were just talking about uh the problem is is there are when you go out and forage mushrooms
00:57:22.200
uh you've got to really know what you're doing because some of them like here in ohio
00:57:26.520
we have green scale mushrooms which will just make you sick like you eat them you're not going to enjoy
00:57:32.540
eating them but you're not going to die uh but then we have devastating angels that look just like
00:57:39.620
them that will kill you and you'll it'll suck the whole time you're dying wow so the problem is is
00:57:45.820
there's not a lot of middle ground there's like diarrhea or painful death where blood's coming like
00:57:53.060
blood for the devastating angels like blood comes out of your eyes and your ears and you kind of turn
00:57:57.000
to gel don't eat them they look really similar too that's the problem is these big family groups
00:58:03.920
mushrooms hundreds of thousands of species of fungus so you have like morels are big popular
00:58:09.820
where i'm at in ohio uh false morels are really easy to tell from normal morels false morels are
00:58:16.440
toxic but not to the level where you're going to die or anything like that you know it's going to
00:58:20.680
suck if you eat one don't get me wrong uh or jack-o'-lanterns look like sand trails here
00:58:25.940
jack-o'-lanterns are also another toxic one to where if you try if you forcibly kept them in your
00:58:30.880
stomach it would kill you your body won't let you if you eat a jack-o'-lantern you'll know pretty
00:58:36.940
fast you eat a jack-o'-lantern your body will forcibly remove it what if you took a bite of bob
00:58:42.200
bob's edible bob's a honey mushroom you can eat them they're good
00:58:45.920
all right bob's the man bob every year so okay so we have uh bob the absolutely massive uh living
00:58:58.340
network of mushrooms with a forest on its back uh now let's let's move past bob what what else is on
00:59:05.760
the list so trey's alps giant salamander have you ever heard of this oh i've only heard of giant
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salamander in the context of like dungeons and dragons video games that i used to play where you
00:59:15.420
would fight them in cave systems and they would have swords and armors and i don't think that's
00:59:19.100
what you're talking about maybe maybe no so let me tell you i've seen a picture and i probably
00:59:24.780
it's probably what you're talking about like a salamander that i it looked like it was bigger
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than a man so you're talking about the japanese giant salamander which is probably a cousin what
00:59:33.880
we're talking about so it's a cryptid uh it's never been proven to exist it's in the trinity's
00:59:37.340
alps california uh cool thing about this it was seen a lot in the 60s it's been seen for hundreds of
00:59:42.540
years but mostly in the 60s almost all of the sightings were from herpetologist
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so herpetologist is a person that studies reptiles and amphibians so it's a highly credible sightings
00:59:55.880
to where it's a guy that's researched giant japanese salamander for example is one of the
00:59:59.200
guys that had seen giant japanese salamanders look down one of these crater lakes in the mountains
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like oh that's a giant japanese salamander down there and the u.s is missing that part of the u.s is
01:00:11.000
missing its giant salamander so this whole northern hemisphere has had giant salamanders the
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european one just went extinct relatively recently uh and you know the giant japanese get six foot
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long so the giant chinese get six foot long they get to be about 100 pounds uh canada's reported
01:00:26.120
they've ever heard of a canadian alligator is another cryptid that's associated with this it's
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very salamander like these guys aren't pushovers either you know giant salamanders are pretty
01:00:33.300
active predators uh don't get bit by one it would suck and if you're a small child they will drown you
01:00:39.420
you know we're talking about you know the same size as six foot six foot alligator
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it's you know it's not a small weak animal but you hear the word salamander and you think of
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something that looks like a little lizard top are you pulling that up because i was actually about
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to do the same thing yeah i'm just looking at what he's talking about because he's blowing my mind
01:00:57.260
here so the giant japanese you look up they're carrying pictures of them lately you know uh and
01:01:02.800
they're bouncing back so the you the we the problem with the trinity's alps giant salamanders i think it
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still exists we're going to do an expedition for it in a couple years uh because i was a biologist
01:01:13.540
but i actually know a couple of the world the best herpetologist here in the u.s and we're all
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going to go out there and catch this thing hey what sort of terrain are you looking in again
01:01:23.180
uh it sucks it's the alps it's the trinity's alps holy crap dude no i'm bringing that it's also
01:01:31.240
dangerous isn't it oh there's a lot of bears and apparently giant salamander i'll deal with the
01:01:37.880
giant salamanders i mean yeah so that's a giant japanese salamander dude i love it that's a i mean
01:01:46.640
that's about a medium-sized one dude he's holding a ninja turtle uh so this is the inspiration of the
01:01:53.880
kappa have you ever heard of the japanese folklore cryptid the kappa that's the inspiration for him
01:01:58.480
oh the the the sort of turtle man with the yeah the water on his head yeah so that's from japan
01:02:04.780
it's the cryptid that inspire it's the animal that inspired that oh so you don't think that the kappa
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is real because i i heard not long ago a kappa encounter i i do think the kappa is real i think
01:02:16.940
well there's i think there's other things too i think what is traditionally viewed as the ancient
01:02:21.160
kappa legends and they've they've changed a lot now what we're talking about ancient kappa i think it
01:02:26.800
was inspired by the giant japanese salamander because they would take a child you know these
01:02:30.420
are like alligators you know when they used to be thousands of them now they're very endangered
01:02:34.900
but i think that's what inspired it now you have this whole thing with it loving buttholes and trying
01:02:40.460
to steal your orbs out of your butt that's literally kappa lore right now but they love they
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steal or we have i don't know which question is your butthole and they hate cucumbers
01:02:53.500
they're like cats let me tell you the freaking like international international cryptos kind of
01:03:00.540
suck like what you just described to me stinks um the chupacabra kind of kind of sucks the gin i
01:03:08.320
don't even know what that does the u.s has some bad ones too like uh i i'm we're allowed to anyways
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the adobe whatever you want okay whatever you want man go ahead dick monster out of florida hey
01:03:20.380
yo what the adobe dick monster i don't know about this one tell me about this is it he
01:03:27.120
in daytona beach florida it was like a dinosaur mixed with a giant penis and testicles
01:03:33.440
that's what you know wait a second how was that wait up i need to know everything about it uh
01:03:43.040
where did we're gonna go hunting the dick monster
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we're definitely gonna do that oh gosh but no so yeah there's some bad us too what do you know
01:03:54.460
what do you know about that do you know anything else about the adobe adobo dick monster it was only
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for a summer and it was seen all around this one walmart in by daytona beach
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i'm just getting food i just googled it and just came up with food with adobe what was what did you
01:04:14.040
say it was called adobe i can't remember it's something oh uh cryptid wiki has it you know you
01:04:20.160
just look up dick monster you'll find it we do have cooler ones though because he just tried to
01:04:25.440
get me to to google dick monster this guy this guy's hilarious encrypted wiki after okay uh you know
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you were saying before about the um the chupacabra what's interesting about the chupacabra is like the
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transformation that it went through because in like old mexican lore the chupacabra was much more of
01:04:44.940
like an alien and i believe it had like spines it had reptile skin puerto rican not mexican
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puerto rican mexican are we talking about juan again he's not in the chat anymore i don't think but
01:05:24.180
uh but all of a sudden it transforms into a excuse me into a like a dog with mange so we did a big
01:05:34.360
we did a couple episodes on that the puerto rican chupacabra is completely different than the mexican
01:05:39.160
u.s chupacabra uh and there's about a six-year gap and it's because that the puerto rican chupacabra
01:05:45.360
got so much news feed that there was a weird thing seen in mexico so they just gave it a spanish-sounding
01:05:50.480
name that really has nothing to do like the mexican one never sucked blood never did it killed goats
01:05:56.140
sir but it mostly killed chickens same with the puerto rican chupacabra that you know they did
01:05:59.880
killed very few goats uh but yeah that was the big thing is the puerto rican one was even seen to have
01:06:06.460
wings a couple of times they're very different things with american tv wanting to slap the same
01:06:12.320
name on him because it was catchy it is a great yeah we ruined him is that is that still being uh
01:06:19.220
seen no oh the blue dog one is yeah it's probably a zullo dog what's a zullo dog see this is just like
01:06:28.480
the you ever seen the blue hairless dogs in mexico oh no type in zullo dog or zullo dog with an
01:06:36.220
x uh they got like a mate like i get like a little mane but they're blue skinned blue tongued
01:06:41.520
it's probably a hybrid or an ancient relative of that dog i see them kind of looks like anubis
01:06:47.120
yeah yeah yeah uh and it's probably that mixing with coyotes yeah that's that dog's native to mexico
01:06:53.860
so it's probably that thing mixing with coyotes getting it it's it's not a common they're very
01:06:58.560
expensive to try to buy one now like as a breeder uh but you know they were a mexican breed so there's
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these wild populations of dogs that have those traits of being you know hairless skin blue you
01:07:11.300
know yeah then they look like a little monster and they have fangs i get so i get so upset look at
01:07:16.820
his fangs this is crazy he's got a little he looks like a little vampire deer yeah i always get so
01:07:24.140
upset whenever they reference dogs as being blue and then they're dude you're never blowing my mind
01:07:28.300
right no they're never the purple he's he's blowing my mind because like like you're just
01:07:33.740
coming out here very casually saying all these animals that i had no idea existed first he comes
01:07:38.860
on here and talks about his job which i never thought existed now you're just casually telling
01:07:43.980
me like half the cryptids i believe in like this is what they are and i'm like looking i've never seen
01:07:48.340
this thing but i could understand why some puerto ricans would be freaking out in a field if this guy
01:07:52.960
started eating their chickens right well i'm really gonna blow your mind with the next one
01:07:56.800
okay i'm excited well we know what the mongolian death worm was
01:08:01.380
so i i got an animal for you that the mongolian death worm is so let's talk about the mongolian
01:08:08.420
death worm you know it's they're not big they were never in any of the historic reciting ever said to
01:08:13.240
be large that's more of the modernized movie versions of them where they're you know fairly big
01:08:18.000
but the biggest account you know pre-1950s was like three foot long most of them are a foot and a
01:08:23.820
half to three foot long bright red in color no eyes big open front mouth uh they have the ability
01:08:29.620
of electric like electric uh electrical shock and they can spit venom they can spit a very corrosive
01:08:36.780
acid or venom towards their prey or his defense
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yeah they don't look like that they most reports said they had teeth
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uh they were very dangerous and they were not found in the open deserts of mongolia ever
01:08:52.220
no no ever report they weren't found in the sand they were almost exclusively found so mongolia
01:08:59.720
actually has tons and tons and tons of wetlands and swamp they were found on the border regions
01:09:04.640
between where the swampland would meet these forests or the deserts they were never found out in the desert
01:09:09.720
they were never found fully in the swamp they were hanging around these borderlands so if you're
01:09:13.080
talking about a burrowing animal that makes a lot of sense you know the soil is moist but it's not
01:09:17.480
drenched you know it's not super dry it's not have to in mongolia gets cold at night you know it's not
01:09:22.680
you have this idea of the desert but you see the monk you know people from mongolia what are they
01:09:26.580
always dressed up when they have like 18 layers of fur on because it sucks at night it's 110 degrees
01:09:32.420
during the day and 12 degrees at night so what have i told you there's a creature
01:09:38.960
it's soft-bodied like the mongolian death worm is bright red like the mongolian death worm so they
01:09:46.640
even said if you touch mongolian death worm you would die what have i told you has a very corrosive
01:09:51.420
venom on its skin or toxins the mongolian death worm shoots venom at its prey
01:09:58.160
sorry sounds like it sounds like you're describing the the the pink thing that comes out of my dog
01:10:06.780
but go on of course so shoots venom at its prey or as a defensive mechanism this animal does that too
01:10:13.140
the only thing that doesn't do is the is the electrical shock but that could be explained
01:10:17.080
with static electricity in the desert because if you walk ever walk in the desert you shock yourself a
01:10:21.120
lot because static electricity we have even sorry i'm sorry to interrupt but i was going to say isn't
01:10:26.800
that not really that much of a stretch i mean we have electric eels you've got a serpentine creature
01:10:30.760
electricity is in stingrays eels fish like all kinds of stuff electric eels are the famous one
01:10:36.420
because they have the best they're the best at it but it's happened a lot uh no velvet worms you ever
01:10:43.480
heard of a velvet worm so they're an ancient organism they're also about 500 million years old
01:10:49.980
they're the only invertebrates they're squishy they look like gummy bear centipedes is the best way to
01:10:54.520
describe them they're big fluffy but they shoot their venom and their intestines out of their
01:11:01.160
mouth at prey and predators they're very corrosive they're bright red they can be all kinds of colors
01:11:05.980
but the ones we're talking about are bright red in color they can be very corrosive to touch
01:11:09.300
and get this they're the only uh invertebrate with complex social structures and i'm not talking
01:11:16.880
about ants where they have this cast system and it's all you know ones reproducing we're talking more
01:11:21.460
like lions where they'll actually share in prey kills and they'll get an order of hierarchy who
01:11:25.640
gets to eat first and stuff like that they'll take down animals much larger than you should pull a
01:11:30.000
picture up for people for that one a velvet name again velvet like you know velvet worm there's
01:11:36.460
dozens it's interesting because uh it i get the sense that based off of the description and certainly
01:11:42.920
based off of the cartoon image that we initially brought up these are the things that like get snowballed
01:11:48.460
uh through the imagination into things like tremors right or like the giant worm creature from star
01:11:54.120
wars and things like that it's like these are the the origin stories of of uh sci-fi fantasy creatures
01:12:00.400
100 so here's another crazy thing that connects the mongolian death worm to velvet worms
01:12:05.100
so a lot of the reports of mongolian death worms and they like they come in all shapes colors sizes
01:12:11.780
some of them you can kind of cute yeah i i've wanted them for pets for years uh so oh sorry
01:12:19.880
what was i saying oh a lot the reproductive cycle so mongolian death worms are often said
01:12:24.760
to reproduce in death that when you kill one babies will burst out of it okay that shows the
01:12:32.440
library you know that they they they probably if you did kill mongolian death worms probably close to
01:12:36.840
giving birth anyways uh velvet worms do that velvet worms give birth the full size velvet worms they
01:12:43.100
don't lay eggs they pop out like mammals little velvet worms so if you're talking about and you
01:12:49.020
know our biggest velvet worm we have documented it's like you know seven eight inches long the
01:12:53.180
biggest mongolian death worm historically report is three foot you know before we got to the you know
01:12:56.940
industrialization movies of making these things oh the squonk poor i hate that thing i actually
01:13:03.820
hideous it's there's that's the painting above my head oh yeah is that what that is yeah it's a
01:13:10.560
squonk crime it's a little hideous uh sad cryptid a very strange one that one feels like it's not
01:13:17.560
natural like it is from a lab somewhere i can explain the squonk away too if you really wanted
01:13:23.120
yeah but i like the squonk but uh the velvet worm is a good a good analog for what could be
01:13:30.840
the mongolian death worm they have a lot of the similar traits they have all these things that
01:13:35.460
connect it just shows that velvet worms are very misunderstood right now in science they're
01:13:40.580
extremely rare uh they live in really weird environments a lot of transitional environments
01:13:45.380
a lot of stuff that's really hard to study like the mongolian death worm you know we're living in a
01:13:49.340
very world of two extremes the hot and cold that's what these velvet worms are really good at they live
01:13:55.120
in these weird areas to where there's extremes being meted but it's also really hard to research
01:13:59.500
i saw this video the other day of uh somebody on the beach where the uh the the tide was coming in
01:14:07.600
and out and they put a fish against the sand and all of a sudden this worm came out and with a sort
01:14:13.800
of a leatherman or something like that they dude that thing when they pulled it out it was like
01:14:18.580
four feet long or something like that they pulled it straight out of the sand it was
01:14:22.240
dude it was absolutely horrifying bobbit worms do you know where those are indigenous too so that i
01:14:31.220
never fucking go there the ocean hey dude what don't go to the ocean oh god there's a there's a
01:14:39.760
similar creature pretty much in every beach in every part of the ocean whether you're cold hot it
01:14:44.940
doesn't matter there's there's a bunch of stuff that live in the sand you you're walking on living
01:14:49.800
sand like uh sand moles and stuff like that they're constantly everywhere you are walking on stuff
01:14:55.620
that is moving all the time i don't like it i don't like it now it's like with the ocean you're
01:15:01.360
just better off don't thinking about it at all if you don't like it that's always bugged me about
01:15:06.740
sharks and stuff like that that people complain about shark attacks and shark infested waters no
01:15:11.500
there's no such thing as shark infested waters the sharks live there yeah if you don't want to go
01:15:16.160
in the water with sharks go into a pool yeah it's like going into the jungle explaining about the
01:15:23.960
jaguars yeah i used to live where they live so it's like the ocean is like that's just a wild spot once
01:15:30.580
you decide to step foot in there you're like well whatever happens happens here you are agreeing to
01:15:34.420
step several pegs down the food chain every time you go on the ocean that is the thought we are
01:15:41.420
cognizant enough to make that decision before proceeding and people still do it i've i used to
01:15:47.700
shark fish in the open ocean i are on the beach and stuff like that i've had big sharks around me
01:15:51.900
never once really felt afraid of them but i understood what i was the risk and everything
01:15:56.300
like that i was you know i've caught some big bull sharks and some big hammerheads and stuff like that
01:16:01.080
so there's a lot of risk with dealing with these animals do you guys remember the story about this
01:16:06.560
the family that went to some beach in florida like three years in a row got attacked by a shark
01:16:11.180
three years in a row each member of the family was it what was that new smyrna at the yes i believe so
01:16:23.080
several species go there to give birth including bull sharks uh so what happens is you have a whole
01:16:32.300
bunch of sharks that are half a foot long or a foot long swimming around and they are hungry you
01:16:37.540
know they're just born and they see your hand going by and your hand's the size of a little fish
01:16:42.020
so they bite your hand and then they you move and they're like oh that's a lot bigger than i thought
01:16:47.220
it was and they let go and that's it you got bit by a shark it was a shark attack it happens is shark
01:16:53.940
was the size of your shoe but it was a shark bit you that's what happens in new smyrna and that's
01:16:59.180
where i used to shark fish a lot big bulls would come in both to give birth and prey upon other
01:17:03.340
species seen pilot whales there once at night that was very scary
01:17:07.280
yeah when we were driving to um to meet up with utop to go to uh what was that st petersburg i we
01:17:16.500
saw someone coming over a big bridge and there was something i think it was whales just right off
01:17:21.220
the side of the the the bridge uh breaching the water and i was like holy shit and i had to swerve and
01:17:26.440
not uh crash so so let's um let's go to because we're hitting the we got 15 minutes left and so
01:17:33.820
uh you have a better handle on the amount of time it's going to take you per per uh cryptid so if you
01:17:41.320
feel like you want to skip any or if you feel like you can squeeze them in but it's all uh the balls in
01:17:45.760
your court so what do you want do you want nasty or do you want organic ufos i want oh damn okay
01:17:53.760
dude what come on that's that's a that's a layup i think that's a layup nessie is nessie is an old
01:18:00.360
dirty washed up i know we've had i knew i knew it was going to hurt justin saying that we've had
01:18:07.160
our time guys have a good night see here's the thing here's the thing i agree with you about
01:18:12.580
nessie nessie's kind of boring but i feel like what justin's going to tell us about nessie will
01:18:16.600
make us more interested but then you said organic ufos and now i'm like really kind of that's what we
01:18:21.780
kind of got famous for there for a while all right look um does nessie lean towards the what
01:18:29.200
is it a um something something with a p the dinosaur species uh it is okay a plesiosaur is
01:18:37.240
a marine reptile not a dinosaur i'm sorry okay there we go yeah and no sorry i'm sorry my apologies
01:18:43.260
no it's a fight me and jay have all the time it's nothing to do with you how dare you i just stepped
01:18:48.780
i just stepped into some baggage i felt it yeah nothing to do with you it's just the guy that
01:18:53.840
sits in the other chair next to me eight hours a day it's a fight we have often all right look top
01:19:00.440
i say well what do you vote for do you vote uh uh uh nessie
01:19:06.820
god this is a tough one okay how about this we're gonna let fate decide we're gonna let fate decide
01:19:13.740
we're gonna on on we're gonna do one round of rock paper scissors i think if i win
01:19:18.220
no there's no delay dude don't worry about that all right if i win it's the organic ufos if you win
01:19:23.600
it's nessie all right let's go one rock two now there's a fucking delay wait no you never opened
01:19:31.260
your fucking hand dude that was bullshit because here's the thing a lot of people say rock paper
01:19:36.800
scissors says and then you shoot and some people go where are you from i'm from new york this is
01:19:44.480
what i mean this is there's a cultural divide here that's what i was 45 minutes south of you in new
01:19:49.460
jersey we never said says that's not even a rock paper scissors country i'll tell you that you know
01:19:55.600
what i guess you win this round because i'm from a really fucked up place yeah i agree with that dude
01:20:00.880
let's go organic ufos because i want to hear about organic ufos and that movie nope really did an
01:20:05.600
awesome job with uh with the organic ufos thing because it's a it's like right in front of you the
01:20:10.080
whole time but it's something i never considered uh seriously until i watched that our first episode
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months out before the trailer even came out for that we stole your idea son of a bitch i'm just saying
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detail uh we've probably done about 15 hours publicly on it uh and wait can you boil it into
01:21:03.560
15 minutes yeah you have 10 and no i mean if we go over a tiny bit long yeah i'm fine with that it
01:21:12.360
doesn't matter the other room is when i when it's time to go me too so how do you start this do you start
01:21:18.200
with um uh sightings that you would consider lend themselves to organic ufos is there i think the
01:21:26.640
ufos are a big category right you know it's on a day if i find out it's anything it's anything that's
01:21:31.000
up there this is about five to six percent of ufo sightings in my opinion that where they have these
01:21:36.400
weird characteristics that kind of stick out to me they lean more towards an animal versus or a thing
01:21:40.940
a living thing versus you know a piece of machinery interdimensional stuff whatever you know it's just
01:21:46.780
there's a small category we're talking about let's talk about the largest environment on the planet
01:21:54.720
that has been the least researched the upper atmosphere so we live in what's called the
01:22:00.180
troposphere it goes to about 10 miles up okay uh that's the smallest part of our atmosphere it's very
01:22:05.600
very tiny the next so right on sitting on top of that and that's not right at where they meet it's
01:22:11.880
in the stratosphere which is the next layer but on just into the stratosphere there's the ozone layer
01:22:18.240
which is like our radiation shield so above that you know we thought there's all this story there
01:22:24.500
as you go up in the atmosphere it gets colder colder colder right well that's not fully correct
01:22:30.460
it goes it gets colder colder colder colder colder till you hit the border where the ozone is
01:22:35.760
and then it starts getting warmer again and the hottest part is where the stratosphere meets the
01:22:41.700
mesosphere which is the next layer above the stratosphere so right in that section of the
01:22:47.420
atmosphere it's like 45 degrees and there's a bunch of liquid water available so there's this massive the
01:22:53.860
biggest amount of surface water on the planet is in there and there's this massive environment we
01:22:59.140
haven't researched so in 2019 nasa did a series of studies to where they built these things that are
01:23:04.300
similar to what i used to use called hestradendis so a hestradendi is a microbe in bug hotel essentially
01:23:09.960
you put them in the environment they have little tiny gaps that range from you know millimeters
01:23:14.440
micrometers tall you know several inches tall and that life gets in there there's food and it's you
01:23:19.540
know safe from other things so you get an idea of what's all living in the environment so they want
01:23:24.460
to do these high altitude studies and these biologists were expecting to find you know maybe
01:23:30.260
a maximum of 14 species of plant animal functus whatever you know any kind of life maximum 14
01:23:36.200
species they put these things up there and when they bring them down they actually find like 4 000
01:23:43.980
5 000 species of everything they found and they did several times they found a representative
01:23:51.440
of every biological clade except vertebrates so that means there's a jellyfish cousin up there
01:23:59.940
there's a mushroom cousin up there bacteria algae plant everything is up there that is on the surface
01:24:05.820
and in the ocean which would make sense you know we have representatives so there's this humongous
01:24:11.600
and then covid hit so they stopped doing the study you know uh but that you know that's going right
01:24:17.120
into covid so they're they haven't continued the study at least publicly so they hit just the edge
01:24:22.880
just the lip of the stratosphere and started finding mass amounts of life species of everything
01:24:31.540
and so there's this whole thing so uh the early rocketeers going into the stratosphere the mesosphere
01:24:39.340
for a little bit there's these reports that they'd hit for just a second they'd sit on the windows
01:24:44.340
green slime and they thought it was an atmospheric anomaly like it was something with leaving the
01:24:49.860
atmosphere and stuff like that they hit a green slime and then it'd burn off you know really quick
01:24:54.300
because they're moving pretty fast it actually is more likely now that they were hitting gigantic
01:24:59.980
algae pockets atmospheric algae which is the basis of you know all environments on this planet
01:25:06.240
every every major environment is algae you know these small single cell you know even single cell
01:25:11.760
organisms so it seems like they were hitting these giant and we're talking hundreds of miles wide you
01:25:17.240
know two miles thick pockets algae because the atmosphere goes all the way up to over six thousand
01:25:21.720
or goes all the way up to six thousand miles so we got a lot of space and then once you get to like
01:25:26.980
the exosphere it's pretty much segregated gas it'd be very hard for something to be living up there full
01:25:31.580
time how does the food get up there though how does the original stuff get up there
01:25:36.140
now what happens is these inversions of our lower atmosphere from the troposphere
01:25:41.720
so wind and all this stuff is pushing what's called detritus detritus is just a big fancy word
01:25:47.920
for crap in the air whether it's dust or organic particles anything like that it's called detritus
01:25:55.220
we have a bunch of species in the in our environments that eat detritus you know they're
01:25:59.600
specialized in eating detritus uh so what happens is when these detritus hits these wind-filled detritus
01:26:06.140
hits these mountain ranges they shoot straight up and they actually punch a little hole
01:26:09.560
in the border of the troposphere and the stratosphere and they get pushed up and they
01:26:14.040
get stuck up there a lot of these early studies actually found ground flies up there that's showing
01:26:20.340
that something the size of a fly can get shoved away up there uh you know they die you know and
01:26:25.000
there's even found some seeds and stuff up there so that's a good source of food it is extremely
01:26:32.080
similar sorry it's extremely similar to the open ocean by that i mean there's no hard surfaces
01:26:40.920
and there's extreme pressures so where you talk about the open the open ocean the deep ocean
01:26:46.560
having extreme dense pressures no pushing in this has the opposite pressures pushing out
01:26:53.220
you know it's less pressure on the body than we would be used to
01:26:57.420
uh yeah so that's kind of this first basis of just the borderline of life being up there
01:27:03.660
so so far i you know and this is the quick really really quick version uh yeah so far i pointed out
01:27:10.960
to you there's algae up there just like the ocean and there's little microorganisms like the open ocean
01:27:15.800
so all we're missing is the whales and the sharks i think that's what you're you know we've talked
01:27:22.380
about ours all kinds of ufo sightings of giant jellyfish like creatures uh these giant space
01:27:27.120
with the sky snakes these space worms all these creatures and then my favorite is the disc i think
01:27:32.760
a lot of these silver discs you see are actually living creatures uh and me and tony on a show tony
01:27:39.480
was picking on me about this tony markle was picking on me about this i said the tic-tac video was
01:27:43.960
probably an organic creature because the way it was playing with the pilot i don't know if you guys
01:27:48.140
have ever experienced dolphin playing with a tugboat you know they're going front beside they screw
01:27:52.040
around with them until they get bored then they leave they're so much faster and more maneuverable
01:27:55.680
than the boat that they you know they kind of play with them until they get bored they leave
01:27:59.000
that's what was happening with that fighter pilot you know it's on the side of him it's in front of
01:28:04.060
him it's behind him it's beneath him it's above him it's screwing around with him it's letting him
01:28:07.360
lock targets on him for a second then moving and then when it gets bored it goes you know 6 000
01:28:12.080
miles an hour and just shoots off so these are hyper evolved organisms from the upper atmosphere
01:28:16.900
so are you saying potentially like the discs for example um you know immediately if you wanted to
01:28:24.520
chalk that up to an organic organism what comes to mind is you know the various shelled species of the
01:28:30.240
ocean it's sort of the i personally am thinking fungus i think they are a type of fungus they're
01:28:36.220
hyper evolved fungus uh because there actually are some mushrooms that their tops will be they uh now i'm
01:28:41.360
running out i'm trying to remember common names they're they are like shelled almost where they're like
01:28:46.400
hard to steal and we're talking about something that would be extremely hard for a vertebrate or a
01:28:51.900
fish to do but an invertebrate or a fungus it doesn't have the same organ systems we do could do these
01:28:57.980
speeds and these maneuvers and not you know rip themselves apart on the inside and this comes a lot
01:29:03.100
of this comes from one big and i'm trying to i didn't put it down but there was uh a pilot in a
01:29:07.720
mesa out west colorado i believe he landed his plane he took him and his buddies out on his plane and
01:29:13.760
landed on top of a mesa which is these big tall pillar stones and they get up there they're having
01:29:18.840
a picnic they wanted to spend the day up there the whole day up in the upper atmosphere they're
01:29:23.560
seeing what looks like glitter shining back and forth they're just like that's weird weird eventually
01:29:29.640
this thing comes crashing down on the mesa with him it's about four foot in diameter it's got a silver
01:29:36.720
top shell and a silver bottom shell and it's where it's opening along the sides you can see what they
01:29:42.540
assumed were eyes and little pieces like tentacles it had a chunk missing out of one side of it and
01:29:48.920
he said as best as he could describe it was bleeding and it was bleeding this gold silvery what looked
01:29:55.020
like liquid until it hit the ground that it was strings just like hyphae hyphae mycelia oh yeah it was
01:30:03.160
making noises and you know it was glowing it had spots on it that glowed you know it had bioluminescent
01:30:07.960
spots and they watched this thing for like 20 30 minutes making noise and it was dying and they're
01:30:12.040
like you know they don't know what to do with it it's not like any animal they've ever seen
01:30:14.880
then about the 20 minute mark this giant one that was very similar comes cruising out of the sky
01:30:22.280
and grabs it and takes off and they were very happy because they thought it was the mother of
01:30:27.920
the thing coming to save it i think more likely it was the predator the the main predator that was
01:30:32.460
hunting these things the silver you know they're dodging it and it found it because they're very
01:30:36.320
shiny uh and you think that would be a disadvantage right being very shiny well if you look at the
01:30:42.260
open ocean a lot of these animals that they hide in plain sight are extremely shiny they're reflecting
01:30:46.180
all the light they can it works very good when you're in the open ocean environment or the upper
01:30:50.500
atmospheric environment where there's no structure not really good when you're laying on a brown mesa
01:30:55.520
and the lights beating down on you you know it's really not hard that hard to find you in that
01:30:59.620
environment hey uh any have you ever given any credence to the theory that maybe uh grays aliens
01:31:05.680
you know interdimensional beings may actually be riding these things so we did an episode a couple
01:31:11.680
weeks ago where we think the u.s government has caught some of these or is using pieces of them
01:31:15.720
for their silent black helicopters and that kind of stuff uh i think the grays are a whole different
01:31:21.420
thing like i said the ufo phenomena is a vast a vast thing uh and the ufo encounters are a vast thing i
01:31:27.940
think the grays are more along we know joel talks about them being these the nephilim or nephilim
01:31:32.400
meat suits or whatever i don't know what the grays are i know they're not good uh i don't think they
01:31:38.700
need to ride anything i think they're more of this interdimensional power thing to where i think
01:31:43.700
their ufos personally and this is just a belief are not real per se it's a altered perception for us
01:31:52.540
it's putting on a show you know they're not i'm sorry they don't need the craft they don't need
01:32:00.000
technology they're putting on a show for you yeah just because they think that's what you need to get
01:32:05.800
over whatever they need to do you know interesting yeah so that's kind of the short and there's all
01:32:10.480
kinds and we're working on a book coming out about it hopefully next year the book will be out
01:32:14.140
with all these encounters there's hundreds of encounters we have written down about these guys
01:32:19.080
with all the different types of organic ufo being seen and once again it's a very small percentage
01:32:24.860
of ufo sightings and encounters you know a lot of the like mufon for example nothing against them
01:32:31.160
anytime a tentacle is mentioned with the ship the most time they throw out the exciting
01:32:34.620
they just get rid of it uh because it doesn't fit what they're looking for
01:32:39.140
they're looking for more than nuts and bolts the extraterrestrials you know that's what they want
01:32:43.360
so they are looking for that information like there's a bunch of we found a whole series of ones
01:32:47.540
that uh groups not mufon but mufon light groups have thrown out in canada to where this disc was
01:32:54.780
making a wheezing noise flying very low and erratically dragging behind it what seemed to be
01:33:00.680
two tentacles on the ground like it's tentacles that rolled out and was dragging it and we think it
01:33:06.100
was one of these animals that was injured or sick you know it's in the process of dying it's not
01:33:10.820
flying very high or very well it's arms where tentacles are hanging out and dragging on the ground
01:33:16.280
you know you see these animals towards the end especially open ocean animals you know they
01:33:20.580
struggle they struggle towards the end especially if nothing gets them before then uh and then some
01:33:25.880
of these like the giant jellyfish and the manta rays are humongous you know talking six seven eight
01:33:29.620
hundred feet long you know 200 feet tall everybody's asked what happens to their bodies you know when
01:33:34.120
they die up there right there's a big carcass the meat showers the star jelly events they've happened
01:33:40.340
for tens of thousands of years been reported they happen all the time where these indescribable
01:33:44.880
chunks of either jelly or meat fall out of the sky over sometimes you know 15 miles long the
01:33:51.160
kentucky meat shower in the 1800s they were eating this stuff there's still a couple jars of it preserved
01:33:55.820
in the smithsonian it happened it was four counties it's manna from heaven right yeah it was a giant
01:34:02.100
jellyfish that died up there and fell out of the sky whoa so that's the short of it
01:34:08.080
i am like fully enamored like i'm i i am considering this on such a high level like
01:34:16.180
you know as i said before the the movie nope really did kind of present me with something that
01:34:23.140
i was peripherally aware of but never considered seriously and then it was honestly a great movie
01:34:28.340
and when it was done i was like man that is a a great angle to consider you know just the idea that
01:34:33.920
they're organic but uh the whole fungi and and jellyfish angle of it is super compelling super
01:34:42.860
compelling and then uh combining it with things like the the whole kentucky meat shower and and
01:34:48.520
things of that nature uh and then also the reflective properties of so many uh creatures in the ocean
01:34:55.680
you know why wouldn't uh sort of as above so below why wouldn't that be mirrored in uh creatures that
01:35:01.900
inhabited the sky and because that is a good question right it's like it's so reflective
01:35:05.820
how is that good camouflage well yeah you'll pull fish out of the ocean that are look like they're
01:35:10.280
made of pure silver polished you know and so for them and their environment you pull them out of
01:35:16.460
their environment sure it doesn't work same with the green tree frog it doesn't work
01:35:20.120
absolutely incredible you guys are writing a book on this or you yeah
01:35:25.120
i hope it'll be out next year now i'm not just right justin real quick uh theoretically something
01:35:31.180
that would inhabit the upper atmosphere like this do you think it would have the density to kind of
01:35:36.340
like attack something like us like if it did like if it did come down would it be able to even do
01:35:41.120
anything eating people and i don't think it's happening very often uh and it's all about cost reward
01:35:47.080
effectiveness with food uh we are not very nutritious and we're very heavy
01:35:52.220
so if you're a flying organism and we're we've talked about we don't have enough time today but
01:35:57.520
go into their biological systems of proposed flight or you know propulsion they can't afford to take on
01:36:03.560
a lot of weight without it being very nutritious so for them to eat us would be probably not the best
01:36:08.820
thing the same with the reason great white sharks they do attack people every once in a while
01:36:12.180
they don't ever eat them they actually have a organ in their gum line that tend they actually detects
01:36:17.540
fat content that we're not fatty enough for them to digest it's like eating celery
01:36:21.940
it's worth less to digest than not digest uh juvenile great white sharks eat stuff like fish
01:36:27.980
and stuff like that when they get bigger almost one third of their body weights their liver and
01:36:32.180
they need fatty foods seals dolphins you know that's mostly what they're eating uh and but a
01:36:38.640
dolphin will just turn it's just fast need them they need blubber you know they need these animals
01:36:42.080
with that kind of stuff so for these upper atmospheric creatures to be preying upon us i don't think
01:36:46.560
it happens but if you watch the movie nope that's one of the things they showed is it got
01:36:51.400
injured that's what it's proposed it's kind of linked in the early on is it was injured and
01:36:56.480
they developed a food source with that guy giving it horses so it got lazy you know it couldn't go
01:37:01.980
back up in the upper atmosphere it couldn't leave so it kind of got stuck it was eating whatever it
01:37:06.900
could catch and we see that with all kinds of animals across the planet you know tigers when they
01:37:11.040
get injured i can't remember her name but there was a tiger that's killed almost three
01:37:15.400
3 500 people and she would she killed a whole village
01:37:18.860
she got injured and that's just how they react you know they change when an animal's hurt like
01:37:25.260
that it changes same thing with bigfoot same thing with you and me when you're damaged and you're
01:37:30.860
threatened and your life's on the line you change you know the stuff that we've we know viewed as
01:37:36.660
morality can change very fast uh on average i'd say they're probably not eating us because we're not
01:37:42.480
very nutritious and we're very heavy you know the average human is getting heavier and heavier
01:37:46.960
and not any more nutritious wow very man that is interesting it is it's fantastic and it reminds me
01:37:55.280
of so much of like um sort of dungeons and dragons lore where there is constantly this example of a
01:38:03.540
highly evolved form of fungi uh and you'll find it in so many video games too where i forgot what game
01:38:09.920
it was in particular but you're able to ride these things they essentially do look like
01:38:13.520
giant uh floating uh mushrooms with these long tentacles uh dropping down and so science fiction
01:38:20.180
in my opinion uh very often is ahead of the curve uh you know it's people who are willing to think
01:38:26.740
outside the box and explore these ideas mixed with a little bit of art who often uh come to
01:38:33.260
conclusions that the rigid scientific community at large wouldn't come to because they have
01:38:38.660
a lot of reasons not to go there and uh and there's certainly no shortage of examples of
01:38:45.480
you know my head as you're describing these things is just popping off with all these images that i've
01:38:50.720
seen and all these video games and all these movies and everything like there's been a long history of
01:38:55.520
lore you know uh the underground uh mushroom people you know the giant mushroom people all these different
01:39:01.700
things honestly this was uh unbelievable i feel like there's the uh uh i started to pick up on this
01:39:08.280
midway i was like we could ask this dude anything and he's gonna have something for it like i really
01:39:12.180
felt like that i genuinely felt like that it was uh absolutely awesome i as weird as this sounds this
01:39:17.900
is how high praise this episode is i'm gonna show this fucking episode to my mom that's my mom you have
01:39:22.900
to learn about these fucking mushrooms man this could be what's happening right now this was
01:39:26.780
absolutely awesome dude well thank you guys for having me i do appreciate it oh dude thank you for
01:39:32.220
coming on man this is again yeah i'll probably show my mom and my wife because i was trying to
01:39:35.960
explain bob to them like an idiot and i forgot where i heard about bob so now it's on my show i'm sure
01:39:42.000
i think that was tony's favorite part when we did the episode with him
01:39:45.380
oh yeah dude that whole organic ufo thing that was definitely mine
01:39:51.140
thank you thank you for joining us um we'll we'll talk to you soon but we're gonna let you get out of
01:39:56.640
here and uh i got stuff to do too so we'll catch you tomorrow um who are we gonna be on with
01:40:02.480
my family's crazy what's his name yeah we're gonna be with uh mark stevie's from my family
01:40:07.080
thinks i'm crazy he'll be coming on tomorrow we're gonna be discussing uh atlantis and the
01:40:10.940
nephilim uh before we go though uh go ahead and let everybody know one more time uh where they can
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01:41:26.940
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01:41:34.200
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