Nephilim Death Squad - 008： My Family Thinks I'm Crazy w⧸ Mark Steeves

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00:01:52.720 We are being hypnotized by people like this.

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00:02:33.040 Welcome back everyone to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad, the show where we hunt down and expose Nephilim shit.

00:02:57.440 I am David Lee Corbo, aka The Raven, that's Top Lobster, and in honor of Nephilim Awareness Month, we are dropping on you two, count them, two episodes of Nephilim Death Squad in one week.

00:03:11.440 You don't deserve it, but we're doing it anyway. Joining us today, not to spoil the fun, but we did, so we researched, we heard that most podcasts that fail don't make it to seven.

00:03:24.440 So yesterday we did seven, today we did eight, just to fucking try to cheat the matrix here. We're going to see if it works.

00:03:30.780 We're joined here today by Mark Stevies of My Family Thinks I'm Crazy, the podcast. Mark, can you introduce yourself and tell the people where they can find you?

00:03:45.120 Yeah, My Family Thinks I'm Crazy is the name of my podcast, and that's where people can find me. Happy to be here. Just search My Family Thinks I'm Crazy wherever you listen to podcasts.

00:03:56.920 And yeah, I gotta say, I love that you guys have End of Days by Vinnie Paz and Block McCloud. That's probably one of my all-time favorite rap songs. I love hearing that at the beginning of the show. So I'm pumped. I'm ready to be here.

00:04:13.580 It really does, right? That's why, like, Raven sent me the video, he sent me the song, and I was like, I haven't heard this one. And I listened to it, and I immediately made the video for this.

00:04:22.900 It was like, this is like the kind of energy that you want to come off when we're about to talk about Nephilim or Atlantis or whatever the fuck we're going to talk about on this show.

00:04:30.260 So I'm excited, man. I'm excited. You're excited. I'm excited by proxy.

00:04:33.940 Yeah, well, you know, shout out to Vinnie Paz. Shout out to Army of the Pharaohs because they were a big influence when I was a young guy and kind of helped me get into all this stuff.

00:04:45.980 Hence why you see tons of books behind me. So yeah, the Atlantis topic, I'm glad we're here to talk about it. We'll just get the Nephilim comments out of the way.

00:04:58.340 My friend Juan is watching. Shout out to Juan.

00:05:02.440 I want to.

00:05:04.660 And yeah, what's up?

00:05:07.640 I got to say that if it was up to me, we would have like the full three minute song is the intro. If I felt like people would stick around for it, and we just blew through that entire song, I would 100% do that because the whole song is absolutely fine.

00:05:18.940 They need to they need to hear the verse where he's talking about Obama being cloned and all kinds of show like this. Like, you guys don't even know. You don't even know.

00:05:25.620 It's amazing. It's amazing.

00:05:26.900 Today, we're going to get into one of my favorite topics, something that we haven't explored on Nephilim Death Squad. I haven't explored it on my other show, The Raven's Watch. And it's something that I really enjoy the lore behind.

00:05:39.940 We're going into hidden history today, whether it's hidden or forgotten or lost history. And we're doing that in the form of, like Top alluded to earlier, Atlantis. And it's my understanding, Mark, that you have a pretty good handle on the Atlantis situation.

00:05:56.100 You've got a lot of fun facts, a lot of information. And so I'm going to pass the ball to you. And I'd like to let you start us off wherever you see fit in regards to this entire Atlantis situation.

00:06:08.280 Okay, cool. Yeah. Well, I'm just going to roll a blunt because this is a deep topic.

00:06:15.960 But that shouldn't take me more than a minute. I'm the fastest blunt roller.

00:06:22.240 Hell yeah, man.

00:06:23.820 I am the fastest blunt roller on this side of the Mississippi. So I'll just let you guys know.

00:06:30.860 He's using a grinder to aid himself, though. He's using a grinder. Let it be noted. Let the judges see that he is using a grinder.

00:06:37.060 Of course, we're not in the Stone Age.

00:06:38.760 Yeah, I got all your equipment here. I can't just be putting resin all over everything.

00:06:43.440 Maybe a mortar and pestle would have been a little bit more fitting.

00:06:48.380 But this is something that is kind of like a tradition. I'm not sure where you guys are from.

00:06:53.060 But smoking blunts, this is something that I started doing probably like 12 years ago now.

00:07:00.740 Yeah, 12 years ago. Wow. Maybe longer. I don't really remember time that well.

00:07:06.420 But growing up here in New England, you know, smoking blunts.

00:07:12.100 There's nothing else to do.

00:07:13.240 No, well, yeah. Smoking blunts and kind of like walking around the woods and stuff.

00:07:17.160 That was something that I really got into.

00:07:19.920 And I've always been interested in weird stuff and had a couple of strange experiences.

00:07:26.580 Nothing cryptid, nothing too out there.

00:07:29.800 But essentially, I've always been interested in this kind of stuff.

00:07:33.640 And Atlantis, honestly, never.

00:07:36.280 It was never like a big interest of mine.

00:07:39.000 But it was always in my sort of understanding of like, well, yeah, that's probably what happened.

00:07:47.240 Because I just always had this like...

00:07:49.220 Hey, Mark.

00:07:50.300 Hey, Tim, Jack.

00:07:51.600 You said you had some experiences.

00:07:54.020 Yeah.

00:07:54.280 Can you tell me a little bit about that?

00:07:56.120 Like, so you said not cryptid, but you're talking like demonic stuff or spiritual?

00:08:00.760 No.

00:08:01.640 Yeah, nothing demonic for sure.

00:08:04.420 I mean, I would, yeah, I would, well, there was one time where I had an Alistair Crowley book that felt like it was demonic.

00:08:15.020 I mean, I still have the book.

00:08:16.760 I don't think it's actually, I think it's still at my old place because I haven't fully moved all my books into this new place.

00:08:24.820 But no, it's not like spiritual experiences like in nature.

00:08:30.380 So like when I was younger, I didn't quite understand all this stuff, but I was interested in it.

00:08:36.800 And one of the ways that I would pursue knowledge was by just walking in the woods and just kind of gravitating towards certain areas.

00:08:47.120 And one of the areas that I gravitated towards was this mountain called Sleeping Giant.

00:08:52.020 And I never really thought much of that for like growing up because, you know, it's just a part of the landscape where I grew up.

00:09:01.760 Sleeping Giant is just the name of the mountain.

00:09:04.260 It looks like a giant on its back, right?

00:09:06.820 When you're driving down I-91 through Connecticut and you're going up past Hamden, you can probably see it off the highway.

00:09:15.780 That's why it's called Sleeping Giant, right?

00:09:17.880 It's just this big kind of mountain out of nowhere and it looks like a man lying on its back.

00:09:23.540 So I would hike up there, like as soon as I was old enough to drive myself around and do my own thing.

00:09:31.200 And I never, again, I never really made the connection to like Nephilim or ancient civilizations or anything like that.

00:09:38.320 But I would walk around there and kind of meditate and just soak it in, right?

00:09:42.860 And I think there's something about the landscape that holds information, right?

00:09:50.200 Almost like the Akashic Record.

00:09:52.540 Some people talk about the stone tape theory where stones and the crystal structure of the earth actually records information.

00:10:01.420 So take that for what it's worth.

00:10:03.880 I've always been kind of perceptive, I guess, to this stuff.

00:10:06.860 And I've just kind of been interested in looking into it.

00:10:11.620 And over the past two or three years with the podcast, I've had a lot more freedom to, you know, look into all this stuff and actually spend time exploring.

00:10:22.380 And I started to find these basically remnants of an ancient culture that was here in New England way before, you know, Columbus and definitely possibly before the Native Americans.

00:10:39.500 Because in a lot of cases, when we look at their folklore about these structures, they say that they were built by giants.

00:10:46.900 So let me wrap some things together here.

00:10:50.560 The Sleeping Giant Mountain, what's interesting about that, now that we're talking about the Native Americans, is the Native Americans have a legend that this mountain was at one point in time a real giant.

00:11:04.360 And it wasn't alone.

00:11:05.880 It had the twin brother.

00:11:07.320 And these two giants fought a thunderbird.

00:11:10.660 And that thunderbird shot them with lightning.

00:11:13.560 They fell to the ground and became the giant mountains that are there now, right?

00:11:18.500 Well, turns out there's a process in science that can actually turn organic material into stone with enough electricity, right?

00:11:29.180 This is sometimes called petrifaction, but there are more complicated terms that I don't remember that relate to this.

00:11:38.640 And there's a guy that has a YouTube channel.

00:11:41.580 His name is Roger Spurr, and he's obsessed with this stuff.

00:11:45.220 I mean, he thinks every stone is basically like a piece of an organic creature that was once living, right?

00:11:52.940 And I don't go that far with that theory.

00:11:55.980 But when you look at the Native American legends about these giants, you know, we're left to think they're probably like 8 feet tall, 12 feet tall at the most.

00:12:06.420 But a person large enough to leave a mountain behind, I mean, that would have to be like 60 feet tall, right?

00:12:15.260 And I mean, wasn't that how big Goliath was in the Bible, right?

00:12:19.620 Goliath versus David.

00:12:21.200 Goliath was like something like 40 times taller than David or something like that, right?

00:12:26.500 I think Goliath is supposed to be like only like 10 feet.

00:12:31.100 He was a smaller Nephilim.

00:12:32.580 They measured him in like cubits, right?

00:12:34.500 But I wonder, though, because we do have examples of larger so-called giants appearing in, I don't know if it's megalithic artwork or, you know, I could be wrong here.

00:12:47.540 But I'm almost certain that if a being is big enough to leave a mountain behind, right, maybe there are other examples of this.

00:12:56.880 And it seems like there are.

00:12:58.620 But again, just going off of what I see around me, it seems like there's evidence of this ancient culture here in America that doesn't quite fit into even like the alternative sources.

00:13:11.720 I mean, there are books about this topic, but they're few and far between compared to like the books about Egypt and the books about maybe other places around the world.

00:13:22.340 So it's become something that I got really charged up about, especially considering nowadays you have so many people fascinated with this old world topic.

00:13:32.460 And I became fascinated with it, too.

00:13:35.000 And I live, again, in a place that is about 400 years old as far as like the records go.

00:13:41.480 New England was settled like about 400 years ago.

00:13:44.360 So most of what is here today is built by the so-called colonists and everybody who came after them, right?

00:13:54.460 Well, what I've been finding, I mean, megalithic structures, things that people say the Native Americans built.

00:14:04.040 But again, when you look at what the Native Americans say, a lot of times they say, no, we didn't build this.

00:14:08.480 The giants built it, right?

00:14:09.860 I could show you guys some pictures in a moment of one megalith in particular that I personally found with my own two feet.

00:14:20.540 Like there's tons of them in books and stuff.

00:14:23.380 And there's books.

00:14:23.960 Before we go there, Mark, I'm sorry to interject, but I did want to read this quickly.

00:14:29.260 I think you might find this interesting.

00:14:30.580 My buddy Ted of the Phone Booth podcast tagged me today in something on Twitter.

00:14:36.300 And it's actually allegedly from the Library of Congress.

00:14:39.900 And it's a little excerpt here that I'd like to read.

00:14:42.640 Profane historians have given seven feet of height to Hercules, their first hero.

00:14:48.060 And in our day, we've seen men eight feet high.

00:14:51.020 A giant shown to row in, I believe I'm pronouncing that right, in 1735 measured eight feet and some inches.

00:14:58.660 The Emperor Maximilian was of that size.

00:15:01.240 This Gropius, a physician of the last century, saw a girl who was 10 feet in height.

00:15:08.420 Eugene, a Scotchman, I guess that's how you would say a Scottish person, in the time of James II, measured 11 feet and a half.

00:15:18.160 And then it goes down to say that Chevalier Scozy, not sure who that is, saw at the peak of Tenerife in a sepulcher that remained the remains of a man who had 80 teeth and was 15 feet high.

00:15:34.960 And Ryoland, a celebrated, I believe it says anonymous, it's kind of screwed up there, of 1615, saw in the suburbs of St. Germain the tomb of the giant Isorette, who was 25 feet in height.

00:15:54.420 And this is an excerpt from something that someone found allegedly in the Library of Congress.

00:15:59.280 So right there, very quickly, is just an example, all the way up to 25 feet in height, which is wild.

00:16:05.480 And there's actually Ted in the chat.

00:16:07.380 What's going on, Ted?

00:16:08.160 Thanks for the information, brother.

00:16:09.500 I think it even goes taller, like 40, 60 feet.

00:16:13.320 They were saying that there were a few of these.

00:16:15.620 And I think the first generation of Nephilim might have been like maybe this big.

00:16:20.160 Seems like they're getting smaller as time progresses.

00:16:22.980 Well, and that's kind of what I was winding up to say.

00:16:25.760 And I'm glad you guys both pointed your respective points out, because part of what my thoughts are on this is that, you know, we'll get into the dates and the timelines.

00:16:36.960 But the Bible is relatively recent, even compared to something like the pyramids, right?

00:16:42.540 Like the Bible is so much more modern than the pyramids are, right?

00:16:47.340 And even the pyramids were new compared to Atlantis, right?

00:16:53.220 So we're talking about stretches of time where, and I don't know how you guys feel about dinosaurs, because some people think they're faking gay.

00:17:01.380 But we're talking about a time where humans might have been coexisting with that time period that scientists now call, you know, the Jurassic Age or, you know, whatever the scientists want to call these far.

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00:17:59.260 Reaches of time when so-called dinosaurs existed.

00:18:02.900 This may be sort of, you know, a part of history that's being purposely left out for reasons that, again, we'll hopefully get into.

00:18:16.320 But what we know from paleontologists is that the reason why these so-called dinosaurs were able to exist is because the atmosphere of the planet had different qualities back then, right?

00:18:28.400 So maybe what we're talking about here with the Nephilim seeming to shrink or these giant humanoids seeming to shrink, maybe that has something to do with the planet itself and the climate changes that happen over huge, huge spans of time.

00:18:42.820 Because, again, the ice has a big part in this story.

00:18:48.960 I mean, a lot of the structures that I'm looking at, anthropologists don't even care about them because they say, oh, they're just glacial erratics.

00:18:57.960 These glaciers picked up all this stone and then just threw it on the landscape as the ice melted.

00:19:05.420 And that's why you have all these stones all over the place, which is why we have the stones there.

00:19:10.620 But it doesn't explain why we have stones stacked on top of each other in ways that, A, defy our construction abilities today, and B, are just sort of astounding.

00:19:22.720 And it would be incredible that a glacier could just leave, you know, one massive boulder on top of four tiny little stones.

00:19:31.700 It's just, it doesn't make sense.

00:19:34.020 But anyways, yeah.

00:19:36.260 So all of it seems to me like.

00:19:38.580 You just mentioned, oh, I'm sorry to interrupt.

00:19:40.320 You just mentioned a moment ago the idea that the Native Americans have a lot of lore about the structures being built by giants.

00:19:46.660 And there's a very similar thing that comes out of Peru I learned recently from Timothy Alvarino, who's an archaeologist.

00:19:53.540 He was studying these megalithic structures in Peru, and he came across the locals.

00:19:58.600 And when he asked them about where the structures came from, so the government of Peru has one story.

00:20:04.460 And some of the locals say something completely different that flies in the face of what the government says,

00:20:10.180 which is that a long time ago, a race of giants built the megalithic structures and that they actually were cannibalistic and evil.

00:20:17.340 And so what happened is their, like, overarching head god sent floodwaters to kill them.

00:20:23.560 And so it's just something that I wanted to say because it seems like all over the world you'll find this story that repeats itself of these megalithic structures being built by giants.

00:20:33.460 Yeah, no, absolutely.

00:20:38.620 It seems to be the case.

00:20:40.680 The cannibalistic side of it is interesting, especially coming from Timothy Alvarino.

00:20:45.180 That's where my mind was starting to sway about, like, the idea of human sacrifice and, you know, where that comes from and originally comes from giving up one of your tribesmen to keep the giant happy, the giant king.

00:20:57.600 It's a very interesting way to think about giants and their politics or whatever was going on, you know.

00:21:05.860 Yeah, I'm not familiar with that author or his work, but I'll check it out.

00:21:11.320 And, yeah, I don't know.

00:21:13.700 I mean, when it comes to the Native Americans, there's millions of different, you know, groups across North and South America, and they have a wide variety of folklore.

00:21:26.720 So there's tons of different stories and accounts, as you guys probably know, of giants in the last 600 years.

00:21:34.760 You know, people finding giants in remote areas, people talking about giants, you know, being in what were once remote areas that are now settled.

00:21:44.600 But, again, like, there's this whole conversation right now that's sort of built over the past four or five years, and it kind of centers around this key phrase, Tartaria, which I think is fascinating.

00:22:02.100 But I think it's Asian-centric, right?

00:22:04.940 And I think that if Tartaria was a factor in the old world here in North and South America, it's something that I'm interested in.

00:22:14.540 But I think we can't let that overshadow the ample amount of evidence towards Atlantis being this place that was once here.

00:22:25.440 And you guys heard my presentation on Tinfoil Hat.

00:22:28.980 We kind of focused a lot on the whole Edgar Cayce and Fredericks Spencer Oliver or Oliver Spencer.

00:22:36.860 He's got a weird name.

00:22:39.920 You know, these guys were channelers who brought in this information about past lives, and you could take that for what it's worth.

00:22:49.480 You know, some people think that past life regressions are not, you know, scientific, but when you match that with all of the scientific evidence that's pretty much ignored all around America, the Caribbean, South America, you know, these megaliths and these stone structures seem to suggest not only a more advanced culture than we're told was present here prior to Columbus,

00:23:18.340 but we're also, you know, told that none of these places knew about each other.

00:23:24.860 They were all just kind of existing in their own kind of like time bubble, like in the Aztecs never, ever knew that there were people up in, you know, the far reaches of North America, which I think is just not true.

00:23:37.360 And when you look into it, you find all of these cultures were sharing all this different information and goods, things like cocoa, right?

00:23:47.120 This was something that was found as far north as the Great Lakes, and you got to ask yourself, like, it obviously does not grow there, right?

00:23:55.800 So how did people get that in ancient times?

00:23:58.120 How did they get things like cocaine and marijuana, right?

00:24:03.580 Things that were allegedly, you know, only grown in the old world, right?

00:24:09.140 Aside from cocaine, which I think the reverse is true for cocaine, where they found that in Egyptian pharaoh's tombs, right?

00:24:17.500 And that's just the beginning.

00:24:20.140 There's so much evidence to suggest, in my opinion, that the cultures that we call like the Celts, the Scandinavians,

00:24:29.100 maybe they actually settled from West, came from the West and, you know, settled in the East, right?

00:24:38.120 So for them, East would have been Europe, right?

00:24:41.100 And they would have been the survivors of this Atlantean civilization.

00:24:47.120 Same thing with the peoples of South America.

00:24:50.000 Same thing with the peoples of Polynesia, who some researchers have suggested sailed from South America into Asia rather than Asia to South America,

00:25:01.660 which has been what a lot of anthropologists have suggested, that the Native Americans all came from Asia in the Bering Strait, right?

00:25:10.720 You guys might have heard that before.

00:25:12.340 Well, recent genetic tests have shown that a lot of Native Americans have a common ancestor with the Europeans.

00:25:21.300 So what does that suggest?

00:25:23.380 I'm starting to think that suggests that we all have a common Atlantean ancestor and the diaspora of that Atlantean flood situation that the Bible talks about

00:25:36.380 and all these other cultures talk about, you know, this is really what was going on at the ancient times.

00:25:42.340 You know, what's ancient to us now, they were trying to remember this and they shared it through morals and stories so that people wouldn't make those same mistakes again.

00:25:52.240 That's why we have such a strict moral code in all of our religions in so many cases, you know.

00:25:58.220 I think that's because what Edgar Cayce and these other channelers were pulling out of the, you know, mind space was, you know, these accounts from a time where humans were, I mean, maybe more advanced than we are today, if not equivalent to how advanced we are today.

00:26:18.920 You know, we look at the megalithic structures around the world and you're like, how did they build them?

00:26:25.100 And these nerds today are like, oh, well, the aliens must have built them because we couldn't have built them.

00:26:30.640 And it's like, no, how is that more plausible than humans were just more advanced and we've just declined instead of progressed?

00:26:40.820 Right. There's this whole myth of progress that, you know, we were once these Stone Age apes and now, you know, through hard work, sweat and tears, we've made it to become the toughest, strongest, best version of humanity.

00:26:54.920 And it's like, that's bullshit, man. You look at all of these ancient structures and the evidence around America, to me, suggests that there's a really, really old civilization here that, you know, is completely, I mean, for the most part, lost.

00:27:14.060 But that's not because they weren't incredibly advanced. It's just because that's what happens over time.

00:27:20.960 I mean, I don't know if you guys ever seen that History Channel show where they project what it would look like if all of the cities were abandoned and they do like a time thing where it's like, yeah, in, you know, 50 years, New York City would look like this.

00:27:36.960 And, you know, when you go far enough, what seems like a long time to us winds up being like a blink in the eye of like millions and millions of years.

00:27:47.460 Right. So all of what we have today, if humans just like left the planet for some reason, would be pretty much gone in, you know, the span of 3000 years.

00:27:58.660 Right. Only thing that would be left is things like stone. And that's what we have all around the world.

00:28:05.280 Right. We have these ancient stone structures.

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00:28:49.360 I've been ranting a lot. Maybe I should share my screen and show you guys what I'm talking about here.

00:28:58.900 It's actually kind of fascinating because modern day buildings won't be able to be pulled up because they're like all that little brick shit that's behind Raven, you know, so that's just kind of going to evaporate.

00:29:09.540 So I mean, huge, huge buildings will just probably just go down to dust.

00:29:13.620 The metal, I guess, over time will also rust.

00:29:16.440 It's really interesting to think like, so those past societies that got to a point that is probably two or three times more sophisticated than what we have.

00:29:26.400 They got, let's say they got to 6,000, right, or whatever time frame we're arguing on because we're about to all murder ourselves at 2,000 years.

00:29:36.280 We made it about 2,023 years and we're ready to go into the Stone Age again or however you want to say it.

00:29:43.160 Those societies lasted three times as long.

00:29:45.780 It's kind of more plausible that, you know, they did have a disagreement for like, you know, a little bit later on and then here we are again.

00:29:55.320 End yourself and restart.

00:29:57.560 That guy too, Edgar Cayce, was that his name, Mark?

00:30:01.860 Yeah.

00:30:02.300 So I just discovered today, it's funny because he's always been a part of, you know, my internal sort of zeitgeist is David Icke.

00:30:15.180 I've been a fan of his work and his ideas, if you want to say a fan.

00:30:21.640 I've been aware of his work and his ideas for a long time, a long time, because he's been around forever.

00:30:27.000 And he was one of the first people I discovered along with Alex Jones.

00:30:30.480 So we're talking like 16, 17 years ago.

00:30:32.520 I was just a teenager, like doing the same thing, smoking a shit ton of blunts and going down rabbit holes on the computer, losing my fucking mind, thinking that the end was coming.

00:30:41.400 David Icke was there for that.

00:30:42.440 And he doesn't know what kind of a role he played in my life, but he did.

00:30:46.020 But, you know, you always discover new things about these people.

00:30:48.220 And I was never aware that David Icke really sort of got in this whole game by allegedly channeling the disembodied spirits of Atlanteans.

00:30:59.780 And so when I hear Edgar Cayce, did I just say that right?

00:31:06.100 I might have fucked that up.

00:31:06.760 Edgar Cayce having this, you know, these experiences where he's channeling in order to get the information about Atlantis.

00:31:14.600 And then all of a sudden, David Icke is also channeling the, you know, the spirits of Atlanteans.

00:31:20.920 And that's where he's getting all of these notions about ascending as a species, going through spiritual evolution.

00:31:28.640 You know, these notions about reptilians, hidden history, all these various entities and forces that are at work over mankind.

00:31:37.000 And this all started with him, allegedly, according to him in one of his books that he wrote, kind of getting fed up with feeling like there was a presence constantly.

00:31:48.480 He was getting this overwhelming feeling that there was a presence.

00:31:50.940 And so finally, one day it got to the point where it was so much that he stood up and he said, you know, if you're there, please communicate with me, is what he said.

00:32:01.640 And then, boom, that sort of flung the door open, which, you know, you can go all kinds of directions in that.

00:32:08.180 From where I sit, I feel as though he's, you know, he's fucking allowing, he's asking, he's giving permission to the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim or however you want to put it.

00:32:16.740 Whatever various entities, you know, all these things seem to act on the notion of being invited.

00:32:25.880 And so when I hear that, that's where my mind goes.

00:32:27.620 But either way, this is what sets David Icke forward on his journey.

00:32:32.420 And David Icke is certainly one of these people who thinks that there was a civilization called Atlantis.

00:32:39.500 It wasn't just some throwaway allegorical story or something hyperbolic that Plato said and that it was very much a tangible real place and that we did reach, you know, the sort of apex in a way of technological civilization.

00:32:55.340 And then, boom, for whatever reason, it all gets wiped out.

00:32:57.280 But I just couldn't help but connect those dots in my mind.

00:32:59.800 And it's funny because I only learned that just two hours ago, three hours ago.

00:33:05.160 It's funny how those things work.

00:33:06.980 About David Icke?

00:33:08.180 Yeah, I did not know that about David Icke.

00:33:09.960 And that's pretty common knowledge, apparently.

00:33:11.420 I was not aware of that at all.

00:33:12.580 Me neither.

00:33:13.840 Yeah, well, and I mean, I wouldn't compare Icke and Edgar Cayce.

00:33:18.640 You know, no offense to Icke.

00:33:19.940 I've spoke to him on my podcast and I have a bunch of his books.

00:33:23.800 I mean, he's got a lot of information, but it's not all, like, valuable information.

00:33:34.280 You know what I mean?

00:33:35.280 Again, no offense to David Icke, but his books are a lot of information, right?

00:33:40.360 And between the lines and what I'm saying.

00:33:43.220 But when it comes to Edgar Cayce, he was a guy who really believed in Christ and God.

00:33:51.820 And he was just a Christian Kentucky boy who lost his voice and went and tried to figure

00:33:58.780 out how to regain his voice because obviously he needed to talk, right?

00:34:03.700 I mean, that's a pretty, like, crazy illness to get, right?

00:34:07.540 And he goes and sees this hypnotist.

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00:34:37.460 I think the hypnotist was able to cure him temporarily, but the hypnotist was like,

00:34:47.620 you know, I'm not really good at this.

00:34:49.040 I'm just, I just started, like, but I'll do my best.

00:34:52.280 So he says when he realized it didn't work completely, he goes back to the guy and the

00:34:59.000 guy's like, you should go see this better hypnotist.

00:35:01.500 So the better hypnotist sees Edgar Cayce and he fixes the laryngitis or whatever was stopping

00:35:08.560 him from not being able to talk.

00:35:11.320 And during this session, the hypnotist is like, hey, man, you know, I actually asked you how

00:35:18.260 to heal and you told me what to do when you were under hypnosis.

00:35:24.320 And he's like, you should learn how to become a hypnotist because you're really good at this,

00:35:29.680 it seems he's like, I think you're better than me at this because you did all the work.

00:35:34.840 And Edgar Cayce was like, what?

00:35:36.500 You know, he didn't really understand, but he wanted his voice back.

00:35:40.920 So apparently this began the whole saga.

00:35:46.460 So it's not like Edgar Cayce was somebody who learned about mysticism and started channeling

00:35:52.660 spirits or anything like that.

00:35:54.620 His whole goal was to heal people because his whole situation revolved around him having

00:36:00.980 an ailment and being healed.

00:36:03.120 So he thought, OK, well, I'm good at this.

00:36:05.860 Maybe I can serve the Lord, serve God by healing others.

00:36:09.780 Right.

00:36:10.140 This is what we see stories of in the Bible, people being miraculously healed.

00:36:15.200 And for for many cultures, there's a belief that people have that ability.

00:36:19.760 Right.

00:36:20.240 I mean, especially in Europe.

00:36:22.180 So he starts doing this and he's really good at it.

00:36:26.260 And one of the side effects of doing these hypnotic sessions with people is not just healing

00:36:33.140 them and figuring out what's wrong with them, because that was part of it.

00:36:36.620 You know, you read their subconscious and their subconscious would tell him what was wrong

00:36:42.240 and what needed to be treated.

00:36:43.900 Now, it's a huge deal back then when hospitals were few and far between.

00:36:47.760 I mean, they probably had hospitals in cities and I don't know, they were probably more

00:36:52.000 like insane asylums, like you might not always get the best treatment at one of those in the

00:36:57.360 1800s.

00:36:58.380 But yeah, it was a big service back then to help people like that.

00:37:03.460 And one of the side effects was learning all this information about their past lives and

00:37:08.760 people started becoming interested in that kind of stuff.

00:37:11.620 And all of that would be fine if the Edgar Cayce, you know, prophecies didn't come true.

00:37:20.320 I mean, I hate to call them prophecies because they're they're more like predictions.

00:37:24.960 I think people just understand prophecy better kind of clicks with what I'm trying to say,

00:37:31.300 because he was talking about Atlantis so much that they started asking more about Atlantis.

00:37:36.560 And one of the things that he said was that the Bimini roads would be discovered, you

00:37:42.760 know, at such and such time.

00:37:45.240 And and you would find that the core samples would be this depth.

00:37:50.480 And all of the things he said about it became true right down to the day that they discovered

00:37:55.660 it.

00:37:55.960 And the Bimini roads are still one of these anomalous megalithic structures.

00:38:03.260 I think they're found off the coast of Cuba somewhere or on the ocean floor, correct?

00:38:09.160 Right.

00:38:09.520 And, you know, it looks like a paved road.

00:38:12.860 And again, like if there was a huge cataclysm that took place, you know, some of the only

00:38:18.080 things that would be left would be things made out of stone, maybe like roads that were

00:38:23.680 really strong would have, I don't know, stood the stood the impact just because they're

00:38:28.460 flat against the ground.

00:38:29.680 Right.

00:38:30.040 I don't know enough about how the the cataclysm took place.

00:38:34.920 You know, some people suggest that it was a meteor impact, but other people think that

00:38:40.600 it was something like a bomb that they the Atlanteans blew up like they had this this crazy

00:38:46.520 crystal that these dark magicians were using to do this, you know, evil stuff.

00:38:54.700 And it backfired on them and basically just exploded and blew up their entire city.

00:39:03.200 And that was, you know, I don't know if it was on a city scale or a country scale, because

00:39:09.840 again, we're talking about, you know, an entire civilization.

00:39:13.940 But if they were all centered around a central location and that place just was destroyed,

00:39:19.240 then everybody would scatter in different directions, most likely.

00:39:23.680 And that seems to be what happened.

00:39:25.220 You know, you have all these different cultures around the world that talk either about, you

00:39:30.800 know, ancient peoples who came giving them knowledge, or in some cases, you have some cultures

00:39:36.900 that seem to be that group, right?

00:39:39.880 Who, you know, maybe have changed over the years and that gets into the whole bloodline

00:39:45.800 conversation and people being, you know, connected to the Nephilim.

00:39:50.540 And I'm sure you guys know about the Hillary Clinton inquiry into, you know, Nephilim DNA, because

00:39:57.080 she was trying to figure that out for some reason.

00:40:00.100 And why would that even come up, you know, in this day and age, if all of this is just

00:40:06.100 ancient, you know, you know, mythology?

00:40:11.020 In your opinion, does this have a, the bloodline thing, does it have anything to do with what's

00:40:15.520 going on today with like, you know, the Israel-Palestine thing?

00:40:19.520 What do you, what do you think about that?

00:40:21.460 I don't know.

00:40:22.440 Oh, and you know, honestly, I'm not really someone who gets into, you know, I don't have

00:40:27.080 a television other than the one I'm looking at right now to do this.

00:40:30.860 Forget about the war.

00:40:31.960 I'm talking about, I'm talking about the actual land there.

00:40:35.420 Like, oh yeah, for sure.

00:40:36.420 Well, it's the, it's, it's a historical place that is connected to prophecy.

00:40:42.040 So I think, yeah, there's an esoteric dimension to all of it.

00:40:46.300 And it has to do with, uh, well, are, do you guys know who Albert Pike is?

00:40:52.440 Or the Morals and Dogma, the, the third, third degree Freemason.

00:40:56.880 Yeah.

00:40:57.200 So he has a profit.

00:40:58.640 He had a, uh, a prophecy, but more like an agenda or, or, or a plan.

00:41:05.560 And it had, you know, you guys could probably find it.

00:41:08.680 It's like, uh, it's online for sure.

00:41:11.720 I don't, I don't know where it is, but I've heard people talk about it a bunch.

00:41:16.220 And it's, uh, essentially says something like, you know, there'll be three wars.

00:41:21.740 And this was all before world war one, right?

00:41:24.580 So, you know, world war one, world war two are allegedly predicted by Albert Pike, but

00:41:31.660 you could think of it in another way that he was planning it and people after his death

00:41:38.140 carried this plan on.

00:41:39.900 Um, but yeah, it essentially said that there'd be, you know, uh, the, the crescent moon would,

00:41:46.300 would fall and, and there'd be wars in the middle East and, and people would realize that

00:41:53.400 both atheism and, uh, Christianity were, uh, flawed and they would abandon it.

00:42:00.800 And Lucifer's, you know, doctrine would reign supreme.

00:42:04.500 And it's, it's really, it sounds like demon, like he's just, you know, uh, trying to call

00:42:10.020 forth a demon with this, like, it sounds like a ritual, you know, the way he's putting it.

00:42:14.760 But yeah, again, I don't know all this stuff, like off the top of my head, very concisely,

00:42:21.000 but, um, I would look into the whole Albert Pike thing if you're curious and, and trying

00:42:26.500 to understand what's going on today.

00:42:28.840 Because yeah, I think there are secret societies that are behind these corporations that are

00:42:35.080 in the top 5% of the, you know, earners, the, the top five wealthiest companies and all that.

00:42:42.560 I mean, it's obvious that they're all connected through, uh, the CFR and the Bilderbergs and

00:42:48.460 all these different groups, Bohemian Grove.

00:42:51.080 I mean, they just have these networks that they communicate with each other and Ukraine,

00:42:57.680 Palestine, Israel.

00:42:58.960 I mean, it's all manufactured it's, it's, and I, and I don't get too much into the, the

00:43:05.860 Gematria stuff, but I know that those people that follow up on those numbers, like that's

00:43:13.080 the reason why they don't want people understanding math and I'm guilty.

00:43:18.660 Math was one of my worst subjects in school.

00:43:21.100 So don't ask me to figure it out, but I don't think it's a coincidence that the numbers line

00:43:25.820 up and I think that's a big part of it and why they throw us off with calendars and they,

00:43:31.220 you know, play tricks with things like holidays and because they want to keep people in this,

00:43:37.240 you know, unnatural cycle while they, uh, make the most of the real cycle and, and the real

00:43:46.080 true math.

00:43:47.460 I was having a dinner with Raven on Saturday.

00:43:49.800 We went out, we hung out and, uh, it's one of the things that came up.

00:43:52.760 I don't know if you remember that you were talking about your kid doing like common core math.

00:43:56.420 And I'm like, yeah, I said, the reason that they're doing is just again, like to disrupt

00:44:01.320 on multiple fronts.

00:44:03.020 It's, it's not to, it's not to help.

00:44:05.580 Obviously we know that, but it's just pure disruption.

00:44:07.720 And it's really interesting that you mentioned that because it's just another grain of sand

00:44:11.740 that they've, you know, put on your back to just break you.

00:44:15.060 Well, and it seems like, oh, go ahead.

00:44:17.420 I was just going to say that mathematics seems to be, you know, one of the ways that we understand

00:44:21.540 the universe.

00:44:22.400 And so, yeah, convolute that as much as possible to, to pry away any ability that we have to

00:44:27.020 understand our surroundings.

00:44:28.500 Uh, Mark, before you go into what you were about to say, I did want to ask you about something in

00:44:32.620 particular that never really comes up.

00:44:34.080 It's like, we have these notions about Atlantis being this highly advanced civilization, right?

00:44:40.080 And, um, advanced in the sense of technology, but that's to say nothing of the morality

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00:45:23.060 Uh, Atlantis was subjected to a massive cataclysm and was essentially flooded, you know, for

00:45:30.600 lack of a better term.

00:45:31.540 It was exposed to some sort of, uh, whenever I hear the catastrophe or the nature of the

00:45:36.160 catastrophe that Atlantis was subjected to, it's always a water one, right?

00:45:39.880 And so that gets me thinking about the idea of the flood, the same flood that Noah and his

00:45:51.040 lineage survived.

00:45:53.840 Raven, you're chopping in and out, brother.

00:45:56.120 Um, oh, I thought that was me.

00:46:00.100 No.

00:46:00.760 Oh, he's out.

00:46:01.860 Is there, do you have the notion in your mind?

00:46:04.440 I could hear him.

00:46:06.260 I could hear you now.

00:46:07.280 Yeah.

00:46:07.880 Um, yeah.

00:46:08.420 So where did I leave off?

00:46:11.560 The notion that.

00:46:13.640 Oh, okay.

00:46:14.280 Perfect.

00:46:14.720 Do you have the notion in your mind at all that, uh, Atlantis was morally corrupt?

00:46:20.680 It was a place of, you know, debauchery and, and similar to like the fall of Rome.

00:46:25.260 Um, well, you know, I don't have a looking glass.

00:46:28.320 I can't like look into the past and see, but what I've read and, uh, the book I was talking

00:46:33.840 about in that episode of tinfoil hat, uh, visions of Atlantis by Michael LaFlemm.

00:46:39.300 That's kind of the case that he makes is that this was a corruption of morals on a massive

00:46:45.240 civilization wide scale.

00:46:47.100 And many of the, the religious texts and, you know, mythological, uh, texts or not texts,

00:46:54.540 but stories tell us the same kind of thing, right?

00:46:57.500 Whether the gods fell, right?

00:47:00.420 This whole thing that the, the angels fell because of their corruption.

00:47:05.760 I think this is a part of it, you know, and, and these stories are remnants of this

00:47:11.320 ancient lost culture.

00:47:12.860 And that's why there's been so much, uh, up, you know, like controlled opposition around

00:47:20.080 it because the, the same people that essentially contributed to the fall of Atlantis, like they

00:47:30.400 didn't all die.

00:47:32.200 Like there were good people and bad people that survived the fall of Atlantis, right?

00:47:37.680 So those people went on to, to get into control in the paradigms since, right?

00:47:44.940 So we have maybe eyes on the Roman empire and the Roman Catholic church, and then maybe the

00:47:54.000 Freemasons and the groups that were historically associated with them, right?

00:47:58.580 And the, the conversation about the bloodlines, I mean, it kind of goes into, to that.

00:48:04.080 I mean, obviously the Royal families would probably be the most likely culprit as well.

00:48:10.000 But, uh, but yeah, I, I wonder about that again.

00:48:13.260 I don't, I don't know for sure.

00:48:15.460 Cause this is all just stuff that has been written about.

00:48:18.560 And the tricky thing about Atlantis is that in the 1800s, there's a lot of people called

00:48:24.380 theosophists and there's other people named, uh, spiritualists and they were all practicing

00:48:30.440 in the occult.

00:48:32.060 Like they were doing all sorts of occult rituals and channelings and some of them wrote books

00:48:39.100 and these books became inspirational for people that then wrote about Atlantis.

00:48:44.920 So, I mean, you know, they were talking about Atlantis and how true are, are those, you know,

00:48:52.280 sources of information?

00:48:53.340 Like how do we know that the spirits that were communicating with these people to help

00:48:58.780 them write these books were not just telling them a bunch of lies, right?

00:49:03.320 So that's the tricky thing about this whole conversation is, you know, there are sources

00:49:08.800 of information that seem to be accurate.

00:49:11.700 Like Edgar Cayce, I mean, he has a record of healing people and that record is like really

00:49:16.820 accurate, right?

00:49:17.720 So you can deduce that, well, if his, you know, diagnoses were that accurate, then maybe

00:49:24.380 his statements about Atlantis are equally accurate.

00:49:28.060 You know, someone like Frederick Oliver Spencer, he died before his book ever got published and

00:49:34.180 he didn't even care about writing it.

00:49:36.840 Like his, it was like a nuisance.

00:49:39.540 It was like, he was like a 16 year old dude and all of a sudden this spirit comes through

00:49:44.400 him and, you know, his friends were probably out having girlfriends and like cow tipping

00:49:48.820 and doing whatever kids in the 1800s did in the wild west.

00:49:53.080 And he's writing a book in his room, like from this, like ancient spirit.

00:49:57.580 So it's not like he was profiting off of this and he was going to go and scam all these people

00:50:02.240 with this book.

00:50:02.960 He shoved it in a drawer when the whole thing was over and, you know, went on with his life.

00:50:08.260 And unfortunately he died young, which is why his mom decided to publish his work.

00:50:15.460 And, you know, that probably would have not happened if he didn't die, right?

00:50:19.160 If he, if he lived longer than his mother, those, you know, papers might've just been thrown

00:50:25.000 out, right?

00:50:25.860 Cause she kind of published it as like a living memory of her son and, you know, grieving over

00:50:31.980 his passing.

00:50:32.700 So you think his mom, you think his mom read, read the stuff and then posted it?

00:50:38.020 Or like, do you think she just, what was it?

00:50:40.320 What do you think her intention was?

00:50:41.420 Cause like, if she read it, she would have went, yeah, I don't know if I could publish

00:50:45.440 this question.

00:50:47.660 I think back then people were a lot more open-minded than we give credit, you know, like theosophy

00:50:52.700 and spiritualism were super popular back then.

00:50:55.420 And it wasn't like totally opposed to Christianity in all places, but it was something that maybe

00:51:01.540 the more, uh, dogmatic or strict religious people were probably against, but there was

00:51:08.220 like a, it was kind of like the sixties in that sense back then, like after the civil

00:51:12.320 war and the, what would they call it?

00:51:14.700 The reconstruction of the South, there was kind of like a Renaissance period that came

00:51:19.120 with, uh, you know, age of, uh, industrialization and people were very wealthy and they were, you

00:51:25.640 know, exploring all kinds of ideas.

00:51:28.080 So I don't know, I, her, they, they don't like.

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00:51:59.660 Her mother or his mother isn't mentioned in the, in the book at all.

00:52:04.540 Like it, there's a statement from him and then it's all written by this spirit.

00:52:09.720 So she, she clearly didn't care to have herself involved, but, uh, yeah, who knows what she

00:52:16.920 thought?

00:52:17.220 That's a funny question.

00:52:18.240 And I hadn't thought about that, uh, but, but basically my point is like, we don't have

00:52:23.120 to just look at the channelings as, you know, some of them might be crazy.

00:52:26.860 Some of them might actually hold up and be accurate, but I think the more important evidence

00:52:33.020 is what like Graham Hancock is finding, you know, Randall Carlson and these guys, you know,

00:52:39.560 they might not entertain things like channeling, uh, Greg little, Andrew Collins.

00:52:45.300 I mean, these guys are writing books and they definitely are entertaining that, uh, Edgar

00:52:50.180 Casey angle.

00:52:51.140 Uh, Dr.

00:52:52.900 Little wrote a book about Edgar Casey's channelings and how they all kind of came true with, uh,

00:52:59.060 as far as people finding remnants of Atlantis.

00:53:02.100 So, yeah, I think when it comes to Atlantis, it's like, we, we have to understand we're talking

00:53:08.500 about very, very, very long ago, probably well before the pyramids, maybe, I mean, the pyramids

00:53:16.320 came like almost right after that.

00:53:19.000 Cause if they had the ability to, you know, create these structures, we have to imagine

00:53:26.280 that their society was, you know, flourishing, uh, right.

00:53:30.500 So, uh, it's a, it's a definitely a mystery, like when the structures were built and if they

00:53:37.160 were built by the Atlanteans or the, the, the diaspora, the people who survived, right.

00:53:43.120 Because they might've taken some of the technology with them and definitely would have had the

00:53:48.400 knowledge, you know, and probably preserved.

00:53:50.500 You know what it could have very well been.

00:53:53.300 And it seems like what our society is today, it's like a society and it's like last breaths,

00:53:58.080 but it's still wants to do something extravagant.

00:54:01.120 Like what if they were just dying and they were like, fuck it.

00:54:03.380 We are, there was, there's no way for this society to continue.

00:54:06.800 Everybody's debaucherous.

00:54:07.700 Everything is fucked up.

00:54:08.800 They're like, let's build the greatest thing we can ever build with whatever little money

00:54:12.240 we can pull together.

00:54:12.980 And then they do that and then fucking die.

00:54:15.520 Like right after.

00:54:16.080 That is the case with some less interesting pyramids, not to say that there aren't, they

00:54:23.900 aren't interesting, but like, they're not as big or as, you know, spectacular as the great

00:54:30.040 pyramid or even like Teotihuacan or, uh, uh, you know, any of the other pyramids.

00:54:37.280 I don't know that that is the case though.

00:54:39.420 Cause pyramids obviously were, you know, they've been around so long that many cultures have known

00:54:44.620 about them and had ideas about them.

00:54:46.760 So it became like a status symbol at some point in Egyptian culture to build these pyramids.

00:54:53.380 But we know it was after they had, uh, kind of lost the secrets of the true pyramid building.

00:55:00.280 Cause these pyramids resemble more like, uh, step pyramids and, you know, they're not the

00:55:05.840 same shape as the great pyramid.

00:55:07.620 So it is interesting to think like, and that's the same thing with like, uh, what is it?

00:55:13.460 The Aztecs where, or the Mayans where, you know, they kind of over time lost the secrets of the,

00:55:21.460 of the true meaning of some of this stuff and just like devolved into cannibalism, right?

00:55:26.500 Like, I don't think people who cannibalize each other are sophisticated enough to build

00:55:32.340 all this stuff.

00:55:32.940 I think the case is that they were once that sophisticated, but things happen over time

00:55:38.300 and wars happen, conflicts happen, and then it degrades into this really unfortunate situation

00:55:44.880 where, yeah, people are killing each other to try to, you know, connect with this so-called

00:55:51.780 God that, you know, maybe isn't really, you know, a God in the sense of it's like a being

00:55:58.320 outside of humanity that can affect us.

00:56:01.280 Maybe it's some sort of force, maybe it's some sort of energy that these, these pyramids

00:56:06.600 harnessed.

00:56:07.380 And now that the, they're no longer working, you know, they were trying to appease this

00:56:12.860 force to bring it back.

00:56:14.420 I mean, that's kind of implying that they were primitive.

00:56:17.360 I don't tend to think that, but I mean, Hey, they were killing each other.

00:56:20.880 So that's pretty down, you know, it's not a great, but look at how, look at how these

00:56:26.340 societies just kind of repeat to like varying levels.

00:56:30.240 Like we're talking about it as if that's some ancient barbaric, barbaric thing.

00:56:34.940 But in reality, our government is talking to entities, channeling, whatever to create

00:56:43.140 weapons.

00:56:44.760 You know, it's like, we're, we're at that phase at the end because we've forgotten and

00:56:49.080 we're, we're so desperate to remember.

00:56:52.920 It's, it's interesting too, how we've forgotten.

00:56:55.440 Like one guy and then he's gone and like, fuck, we forgot.

00:56:58.900 Well, I think what, what the, the case is, is that governments evolved from these priesthoods

00:57:06.640 and the priesthoods kept this like secret information, right.

00:57:11.220 And they kind of evolved in secret societies, which then evolved into the corporations and

00:57:17.440 governments that we have today.

00:57:19.040 Right.

00:57:19.420 In many ways.

00:57:20.240 I mean, the ruling class has always been participating in, you know, the secret societies to some

00:57:26.100 degree.

00:57:26.560 Uh, they probably even, you know, approve, you know, which secret societies are good or

00:57:32.260 bad or whatever, what have you, right.

00:57:34.580 They're definitely involved somehow, but, uh, yeah, I don't know, you know, there's so

00:57:40.180 many questions when it comes to this conversation, but it definitely, you see history repeating

00:57:46.040 itself.

00:57:46.640 And, you know, when it comes to the dark force that was present in Atlantis, they talk about

00:57:53.920 this crystal that they used as a weapon, but it wasn't just a weapon.

00:57:57.960 Like it could be used for other things too.

00:58:00.220 And maybe that's because it was some sort of reality shifter, right.

00:58:05.620 Because they, they talk about how the Atlanteans were messing around with genetics and creating

00:58:10.620 all these hybrids.

00:58:11.780 And that accounts for why they're all these cryptid and monster sightings.

00:58:15.720 But when you really look at like cryptid sightings, at least the ones in the past 200 years, and

00:58:21.900 I say that because like folklore preserves these kinds of stories as well, they're clearly much

00:58:28.300 older than just the past 200 years.

00:58:30.560 You know, things like the chupacabra or the Sasquatch or, you know, even like the Loch Ness monster

00:58:38.060 or something like that.

00:58:39.160 Right.

00:58:39.900 And I wonder if, have you, have you spoken with Justin of, uh, cryptos of the corn?

00:58:45.220 No.

00:58:46.360 Okay.

00:58:46.780 You should, and we'll hook you guys up.

00:58:49.300 Well, my point is, is, you know, what if this is more of like a reality, uh, a factor of

00:58:56.460 like things being shifted in reality, right?

00:58:59.740 So in the past they had this giant crystal that was able to alter reality in some way

00:59:05.820 that would allow for beings to come through different dimensions.

00:59:11.200 And this was part of this, you know, destruction, right.

00:59:14.640 And why there was this flood and, uh, you know, why they had to stop this whole thing.

00:59:20.400 And maybe that's why there are remnants of those creatures still to the, to this day.

00:59:25.660 I mean, it's a far-fetched theory and it's definitely not fleshed out, but, uh, I think,

00:59:31.800 I think I'll, uh, leave it at that.

00:59:34.660 Yeah.

00:59:36.120 Dude, I don't, I don't think it's a theory.

00:59:38.500 That's exactly what I think happened, whether it was, uh, Atlantis or somewhere else, but

00:59:43.380 pretty much that exact story.

00:59:45.280 Um, but I'm, I'm also geographically retarded, especially historically geographic.

00:59:50.360 No clue.

00:59:51.720 But, uh, well, I can help with that.

00:59:53.560 Where, where would Atlantis be?

00:59:55.520 Just quick question.

00:59:57.020 Yeah.

00:59:57.280 I mean, the Caribbean would be like a likely spot.

01:00:02.240 I mean, or at least the Gulf of Mexico, because it seems like there's a giant crater there.

01:00:08.000 And I'm pretty sure I could be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure that the cataclysm

01:00:14.000 that scientists notice in this geological record lines up with what the channelers said are

01:00:21.020 the dates for Atlantis.

01:00:22.500 And it also kind of lines up with what the Egyptians said, uh, Atlantis, how old it was.

01:00:28.060 Right.

01:00:28.400 So, yeah, I mean, it could be that we're talking about a time when the continents were a different

01:00:33.880 shape than they are today.

01:00:35.560 Uh, they most definitely would have been larger because the ocean level would have been lower

01:00:41.140 because more water would have been frozen in the ice caps, right?

01:00:45.600 Because we're currently, uh, in a process of global warming.

01:00:50.740 Uh-oh, uh-oh.

01:00:51.980 But that's, uh, that's because we were in a very, very cold ice age.

01:00:57.420 And that's what the people, uh, don't want you to know who are so fucking crazy about climate

01:01:03.880 change is that there are fluctuations in the global climate over massive periods of time

01:01:09.700 that don't necessarily, uh, mean it doesn't necessarily mean that we're going to be destroyed

01:01:17.280 because the planet's getting warmer.

01:01:19.600 In fact, uh, the planet might be getting warmer and that might bring us back to this paradise

01:01:25.420 period that we once were in that is kind of a part of this whole Atlantis ancient civilization

01:01:33.800 conversation.

01:01:34.640 You know, it's in ancient mythology all around the planet of this time when, you know, the

01:01:40.280 earth was like a paradise, like the garden of Eden, this green paradise.

01:01:44.640 And maybe that's because the pole that is currently, you know, shifted off its axis, maybe it was,

01:01:52.120 uh, in a different position, which made the earth warmer, right?

01:01:56.500 I mean, this is all stuff that certain researchers have postulated and wrote books about.

01:02:03.280 So again, I'm not the authority on this.

01:02:06.500 Would this be, would this like pertain to the age of Aquarius, that kind of thing that we

01:02:10.680 were supposed to be going into that?

01:02:11.820 And that, yeah, I think those mythologies for sure are part of it.

01:02:16.100 Like the, you know, the Yuga cycle and whatnot, and there are other examples in different cultures

01:02:21.540 of similar concepts.

01:02:23.540 Uh, you know, the Mayans had the similar concepts of like ages of destruction and renewal and then,

01:02:31.580 you know, uh, abundance and then destruction again.

01:02:34.800 Right.

01:02:35.140 So I definitely think we're coming out of a destruction period.

01:02:38.680 If you look at history, you know, over a large enough span, and maybe that means good things.

01:02:44.840 And maybe that's why we see this technology, you know, being advanced at such a rapid pace,

01:02:51.380 because we're kind of getting the lower end of the spectrum of technology as we evolve

01:02:57.040 and integrate the higher realms of consciousness into these sort of lower material things.

01:03:03.740 You know, that's maybe how we have like this sci-fi UFO technology, because they're creating,

01:03:11.380 you know, technology from a third dimensional, like not a third dimensional, sorry, not from

01:03:18.040 a third dimensional perspective, but from like a fifth dimensional or a nine dimensional

01:03:22.520 perspective, whatever the hell that means.

01:03:24.980 Right.

01:03:25.380 But, uh, again, above, above my level of understanding, but it's definitely something that I think

01:03:31.600 could be.

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01:04:00.500 Are you saying that you think that just like a slight shift in the angle of the earth or

01:04:05.460 maybe like temperature is what is what it can affect humanity in this sort of way, just

01:04:10.820 change the biology just ever so slightly and then you're vibrating on a higher level?

01:04:15.300 Absolutely, because we're all in an electromagnetic, you know, situation here that we know the planet

01:04:21.900 has an electromagnetic field and it has a magnetic pole, right?

01:04:26.300 So if that pole is on an axis by a certain level of degrees, uh, it's, it's that much degrees

01:04:33.880 off from a true north, right?

01:04:37.080 And I think that's kind of, you know, whatever north means, uh, but you know, I think, yeah,

01:04:42.980 that alignment maybe accounts for why there were times in the past, allegedly where people

01:04:50.960 were in a more balanced state, right?

01:04:53.100 But now we're kind of skewed off 5% or however much to one way.

01:04:58.920 Maybe that's the masculine side, not to get all fem feminist on you guys, but, you know,

01:05:04.680 we have this whole law of gender that's very important, right?

01:05:08.980 We don't want people switching that on us, right?

01:05:12.600 You know, stay, stay what you're born.

01:05:15.660 Hey, Mark, I'd like to ask you, cause we just had this discussion about this idea of this

01:05:20.340 crystal, right?

01:05:21.520 Um, and I I'm curious because one of the big things about Atlantis is always this idea of

01:05:27.080 how technologically advanced they were.

01:05:28.760 Is there anything, uh, that you've come across that would allow you to speculate, uh, with

01:05:33.920 a little bit of detail in regards to like, what were they capable of as a people?

01:05:38.220 What sorts of technologies might they have had?

01:05:41.740 Uh, because I'm, I'm familiar with this idea that, um, the Egyptians for one, and it sounds

01:05:48.240 like this may have been recycled technology from the Atlanteans, right?

01:05:51.560 Uh, are using a sort of frequency harmonics, uh, technology in order to move, uh, stones

01:05:58.540 that would otherwise be immovable.

01:06:00.020 Certainly by our standards today, I'm sure you've seen the videos where we try to lift

01:06:03.440 up these megalithic stones with, uh, you know, uh, uh, an excavator or something of that nature.

01:06:08.840 And it just is not happening.

01:06:09.940 The things, wheels are lifting off the ground.

01:06:11.340 We still can't figure out how they move them, but maybe with some sort of high level frequency

01:06:17.020 harmonics technology, they might've been able to do this with ease.

01:06:20.100 Is there anything that you've come across that would maybe lend itself to ideas like

01:06:24.680 that, or maybe something even further out of the box?

01:06:33.760 Yeah, yeah.

01:06:34.640 It seems like, you know, they use some sort of, as you put it, harmonic technology to, to

01:06:39.520 move these stones.

01:06:40.240 I mean, there's the whole story with, uh, coral castle where, you know, allegedly kids looking

01:06:48.300 over the fence at night, saw this little old man using what they described as like a funnel

01:06:53.840 with a sort of like crank on it.

01:06:57.000 Uh, and he was levitating these boulders with whatever this device did.

01:07:02.460 And, you know, maybe that's a vibration, you know, that it can account for this tiny man

01:07:07.460 to be able to move such, you know, huge coral, right?

01:07:11.420 I don't know how magnetic coral is, you know, I'm sure coral has some sort of properties that

01:07:17.180 could be understood.

01:07:18.640 I don't think it's a magnetic stone.

01:07:21.880 Um, so I don't know how that, uh, would be accomplished in any other way than with, uh,

01:07:29.020 harmonics and vibration and maybe even changing the, uh, the actual, the, the matter and its

01:07:39.220 state, um, to the fourth state of matter.

01:07:43.500 And maybe you don't even need to change the stone.

01:07:45.800 Maybe you just need to change the medium in which the stone is held.

01:07:49.720 For example, you know, if you could float, uh, the stone in water somehow, and then put

01:07:55.840 a vibration in that water or keep the stone wet, uh, while that vibration is, you know,

01:08:03.640 ambient, right?

01:08:05.120 Uh, that might be a factor, but again, I'm just speculating, but, you know, there's a

01:08:10.440 guy named David Elkington that writes about the, you know, actual harmonic principles of

01:08:16.700 the structures themselves.

01:08:18.120 So clearly this was something that they had a knowledge of, like they were integrating the

01:08:24.340 understanding of frequency into the structure itself.

01:08:27.480 It's all, it's not just proportional, but it, it fits into golden ratio proportions, which

01:08:34.280 is something that, you know, is extremely sophisticated, right?

01:08:39.420 So imagine how sophisticated their ability to move these stones would be.

01:08:44.560 Uh, I think, you know, this is a more far out there idea, but do you guys know about like,

01:08:53.620 uh, scarab beetles and how the scarab beetle was, you know, revered by the Egyptians as

01:08:59.700 like a sacred symbol?

01:09:01.760 Well, when you look at a scarab beetle and you see, you know, bright green or bright purple

01:09:08.540 or bright blue, right?

01:09:10.000 It has these magnificent colors on its shell.

01:09:13.060 Its shell is not that color.

01:09:15.440 Its shell is black.

01:09:17.000 It's all black.

01:09:17.940 Uh, but the reason why our eyes see that color is because the, the structure of the insect's

01:09:24.820 exoskeleton is microscopically arranged in such a way that the light diffracts against

01:09:30.800 it, kind of like the pink Floyd logo, uh, it diffracts against it on the, the frequency

01:09:37.940 of whatever color you're seeing.

01:09:39.720 So blue, green, purple, right?

01:09:42.240 These are whatever, you know, structures on that insect's body corresponds to the color.

01:09:49.080 It's not a pigment or anything like that.

01:09:51.800 It's not just frequency.

01:09:53.540 It's also geometry.

01:09:54.920 It's geometry and frequency.

01:09:56.920 But the reason I bring up the point about the structure is because there's a scientist

01:10:03.820 named Victor Gribinikoff.

01:10:05.660 And he took the shells of this certain insect and sewed them together and allegedly used

01:10:12.300 them to float objects.

01:10:13.900 And he even created a craft that looked like a sort of scooter with like a, like a, on a

01:10:21.320 platform, like scooter handles.

01:10:23.200 If you can imagine that just on a regular platform and he would use this to float.

01:10:28.180 And when he was flying, he, he didn't have wind hitting him in the face.

01:10:33.380 And that was because there was actually like a bubble that he was in and it was some sort

01:10:38.740 of electromagnetic process where, you know, these shells were diffracting the energy somehow,

01:10:45.280 uh, using, you know, maybe possibly this microscopic structure and then linking them all together.

01:10:52.320 And I guess the theory was, you know, certain insects are too heavy to, for their wings to

01:10:59.580 be responsible totally for their flying ability, right?

01:11:03.560 So you look at certain insects and you measure how heavy they are and then you determine,

01:11:08.400 you know, how, how much lift their wings give them.

01:11:12.400 And this scientist realized that it can't be the wings alone.

01:11:17.100 There has to be something else going on.

01:11:19.020 And it turns out that the shells actually create this sort of weightlessness and the wings are just

01:11:25.480 kind of like pushing along, almost like they're floating through water, right?

01:11:29.420 Like a propeller, like a boat in water.

01:11:32.060 Uh, and you know, this is something that he allegedly took advantage of to create, you know,

01:11:38.620 this really rudimentary flying craft.

01:11:40.560 And then like Nikola Tesla and all these other scientists, he just disappears and all this stuff

01:11:46.360 is, you know, taken by the government.

01:11:48.680 He was from Russia.

01:11:49.480 So, uh, Siberia actually, and there's a museum, uh, wherever his like small town was that he lived

01:11:56.920 in, uh, dedicated to him, but I'm pretty sure the Russian government, uh, took, and this was

01:12:02.720 after the, the communist party fell, uh, pretty sure the Russian government took his, uh, his

01:12:10.040 equipment.

01:12:10.800 So who knows, maybe they used it to create flying saucers and, or some sort of thing.

01:12:16.400 But, uh, yeah, I recently was talking to Chaz of the dead and he, he and I were talking

01:12:21.500 a lot about this subject.

01:12:23.460 He, uh, he's been researching it.

01:12:25.580 So got to give him credit where it's due and definitely have him on the podcast for,

01:12:30.460 uh, you know, deeper dive into that.

01:12:33.000 But Hey, maybe that's why these insects are revered by this ancient culture because they

01:12:39.320 knew that they were used to float these blocks somehow.

01:12:43.240 Like you just stitch them all together and create like a, a levitation platform that can

01:12:48.520 lift things.

01:12:49.720 I mean, this is pretty incredible, but you know, we have a bunch of researchers who suggest

01:12:55.780 that these blocks were just pushed into place.

01:12:59.140 Like they were weightless and that's exactly how Coral Castle was described to have been

01:13:04.740 built.

01:13:05.080 You know, the guy who helped him, uh, bring the materials to the Coral Castle site described

01:13:12.200 and he said, Oh, well he, you know, he was just this little old man.

01:13:16.580 And I asked him, how are we going to get all this stuff off the truck?

01:13:19.360 And he said, Oh, don't worry about it.

01:13:21.260 Go have breakfast and I'll be done in a few hours.

01:13:24.380 And when, when he came back, the little old man had done it all by himself.

01:13:29.280 So, I mean, again, like how is, how is that possible?

01:13:32.540 These stones weigh tons and this guy by himself, uh, you know, in the privacy of, uh, no one

01:13:39.720 watching was able to move them using some sort of power.

01:13:43.760 Right.

01:13:44.100 I mean, that's what the mind suggests.

01:13:46.720 I like to think that people are psychic and you know, there's tons of examples of it.

01:13:51.500 I think that you, you both are psychic.

01:13:53.600 I'm psychic.

01:13:54.320 Like everybody is psychic to a certain degree.

01:13:56.760 We just don't necessarily have like a societal acceptance in many ways for this idea.

01:14:03.280 So it just kind of goes unnoticed in a lot of cases, but most people talk about it.

01:14:08.100 They just might not consider psychic, you know, might say like, Oh, it's weird.

01:14:12.860 I was just thinking about you and you called, you know, things like that.

01:14:16.260 But we were, uh, we were talking to like episode one of this podcast, uh, with my significant

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01:14:50.900 I can think of a random song and I wouldn't do it on purpose to put it in our head, but

01:14:54.660 like she'll start singing at the same spot.

01:14:57.300 We haven't listened to this song in years.

01:14:58.780 You know what I mean?

01:14:59.620 Oh yeah.

01:15:00.460 I completely agree.

01:15:01.400 There is some kind of psychic ability, especially with people that we're, uh, like maybe more

01:15:06.140 intimate with, but we, we don't know how to expand beyond that.

01:15:09.660 Or most of us don't.

01:15:11.280 Well, and imagine like, all right, so we're, we're supposedly shrunk because of the planet,

01:15:17.640 right?

01:15:17.940 Like we were talking about before, and maybe in the past things were bigger, right?

01:15:21.820 Even humans were bigger.

01:15:23.180 So imagine, you know, if we had bigger brains, like we look at things like whales and beings

01:15:29.640 like whales or elephants, and we see that their memory is incredibly great, like compared to

01:15:35.900 human beings.

01:15:36.600 Like they can travel vast distances and know how to get back to the exact same spot year

01:15:42.620 after year.

01:15:43.300 Right.

01:15:43.640 So clearly a larger brain implies, you know, larger, a larger spectrum of capacity or a

01:15:51.940 larger spectrum of ability.

01:15:53.400 So maybe, yeah, maybe human giants had this incredible psychic power that allowed them

01:16:00.480 to somehow create the same effect that we have in nature with these insects.

01:16:05.720 Like maybe they didn't even need the insects.

01:16:07.980 Maybe it's just something that beings can do.

01:16:10.300 Like we look at the octopus and the octopus does the same thing that those beetle shells

01:16:15.520 do, but it does it within its skin.

01:16:17.880 It does it as a way to camouflage, right?

01:16:20.040 And everybody's seen these, you know, camouflaging octopus and you're like, whoa, how can it change

01:16:25.140 all these colors like that?

01:16:26.600 Right.

01:16:26.860 And it's because its cells are essentially mimicking the light that's being, you know, refracted

01:16:33.540 around it.

01:16:34.260 Right.

01:16:34.500 So here's a conspiracy theory, brand new one, just came up with it.

01:16:38.760 Uh, Nephilim, big fucking head, octopus, big fucking head.

01:16:43.180 Every famous dude, we were talking about, uh, with Owen Benjamin about this.

01:16:46.700 He calls it famous guy head, big fucking head.

01:16:49.880 Look at any of these guys that they have extra space in their head and they're using it to

01:16:54.060 be influential with other people on a TV screen.

01:16:56.840 It's kind of stupid way to use it, but it makes sense for humans.

01:17:00.020 Well, and I think people with larger heads might attract, uh, certain like emotions or

01:17:08.100 attention from people and propel them to that situation because of just the culture we live

01:17:15.760 in.

01:17:15.920 Like we don't live in a culture where maybe muscles are important as a brain is right.

01:17:21.280 Muscles are important.

01:17:22.220 Don't get me wrong.

01:17:22.800 Being healthy is definitely like a big part.

01:17:25.460 But I think as far as our culture and society is geared, like people with a large brain are

01:17:32.500 kind of like seen as, you know, more important for whatever reason.

01:17:37.000 Right.

01:17:37.320 Just cause it's the society's, you know, intellectually geared, you know, uh, maybe that that's why

01:17:43.840 maybe it's like, uh, our biggest celebrity, our biggest celebrity right now would be like

01:17:49.260 someone like Elon Musk.

01:17:50.440 Right.

01:17:51.240 That's kind of what he's got to use a fuck.

01:17:53.780 He does have a huge dome too.

01:17:55.840 Look, I mean, he's barely holding that thing up.

01:17:57.660 It's fucking, there's something to that.

01:18:00.160 We got to start measuring people's heads.

01:18:02.040 You know, what's really crazy is just yesterday, we're talking to Justin from cryptids of the

01:18:06.140 corn right now.

01:18:07.220 We're talking about two things, right?

01:18:08.680 Frequency and psychic ability.

01:18:10.400 Justin had a big fucking head too.

01:18:11.980 Now that I'm thinking about it, a really big head and they had a beautiful set of hair

01:18:15.120 too.

01:18:15.600 Yeah.

01:18:15.740 And, uh, one of the things that he's telling us is we're talking about this concept of

01:18:20.300 infrasound, right?

01:18:21.320 Maybe this, this frequency that these cryptids can emit that causes, and also paranormal

01:18:26.980 entities that cause, um, really dramatic emotions of fear and even senses of doom.

01:18:33.780 And then he goes on to tell us about a cliff.

01:18:36.480 I believe he said it's in, it's in California.

01:18:38.760 Oh yeah.

01:18:39.040 And something about the way that the cliff is shaped, it kind of creates a reverberation.

01:18:46.480 I'm, I'm going to totally destroy what, what it is.

01:18:49.340 He said it much more intelligently than I'm about to, but it creates a reverberation of,

01:18:53.380 of some sort of frequency or energy.

01:18:55.480 And this cliff has a disproportionate amount of suicides at it.

01:19:00.520 But the curious thing about it is that there are a lot of people who show no signs whatsoever

01:19:06.360 of depression or suicide and yet still jump off this cliff.

01:19:09.940 And they discovered recently that apparently it is doing a very similar thing to infrasound

01:19:16.820 where it's creating suicidal thoughts and feelings of depression.

01:19:20.800 They actually changed it because they changed it, right?

01:19:24.540 They reshaped it.

01:19:25.440 Yeah.

01:19:25.540 They changed it.

01:19:26.260 So the acoustics of it wasn't, wasn't vibrating at that frequency or whatever it is.

01:19:30.960 And, and now it's kind of like just another cliff.

01:19:34.220 Fucking crazy.

01:19:35.280 There is an absolute direct connection.

01:19:38.740 Like if we do have latent psychic abilities, it seems like it's directly connected with

01:19:44.680 our ability to manipulate frequencies.

01:19:47.620 So whether our brain is some sort of receiver of frequencies and harmonics, maybe some people

01:19:52.800 are more adept at manipulating those frequencies and harmonics, or maybe a sort of like a feedback

01:19:58.840 loop.

01:19:59.460 We take them in and we emit them, right?

01:20:01.520 Because we all have, what's that field that goes around our bodies?

01:20:04.180 I forget the terminology for the field, but it's a measurable field that we were speaking

01:20:09.140 to somebody.

01:20:09.800 I don't know if it was on Nephilim Death Squad or my other show, but this idea that when

01:20:13.860 people enter that toroidal field, I think it was called something like that.

01:20:17.780 That was Jake talking about that.

01:20:19.460 That was Jake.

01:20:19.880 That's right.

01:20:20.360 Yeah.

01:20:20.520 So that you have a certain sense when somebody gets within your proximity and it's because

01:20:24.620 they've penetrated this field.

01:20:26.660 So it's like your brain is taking in these frequencies and then it's emitting a different

01:20:30.680 frequency of its own.

01:20:31.900 Some minds, some people seem better at manipulating those frequencies.

01:20:36.280 And that seems directly related to psychic ability.

01:20:38.980 Let me cut in here with the theory I've had for a while since even before we started the

01:20:42.600 show.

01:20:43.240 It's a theory about a frequency.

01:20:45.680 I play guitar, so I'm very perceptive to like pitch, tone.

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01:21:17.620 But you start to realize that obviously pitch is just vibrations and frequency.

01:21:24.220 And then I started to get involved with a perfect pitch.

01:21:27.720 The idea of the people that have, you know, you can play a note on the keyboard and they

01:21:31.600 can tell you exactly what note it is because they just have it internalized.

01:21:36.400 There's something called relative pitch and then there's synesthesia.

01:21:39.360 And I went down that rabbit hole and you listen to people that do have perfect pitch and they

01:21:44.880 have a voice that I can't describe.

01:21:47.200 Like I told Raven when, when we started doing this, I said, you have like this round, it's

01:21:51.400 a round voice.

01:21:52.300 I can't, I can't exactly describe why he's like, I don't know what I'm doing.

01:21:55.140 I'm just talking.

01:21:56.300 Somebody like Barack Obama wouldn't be surprised if he has perfect pitch because he's able.

01:22:01.880 Yeah.

01:22:02.860 I think we, we dropped out for a second there.

01:22:05.380 Uh, you, you, you were just beginning to describe, uh, perfect pitch and relative pitch.

01:22:10.980 And then we, we, I don't know if everybody lost you.

01:22:12.980 I definitely lost you.

01:22:13.980 Oh, uh, yeah.

01:22:15.260 I was saying perfect pitch, relative pitch and, uh, synesthesia are some of the things

01:22:20.200 that, uh, that I was like really looking into.

01:22:23.600 And then I started to study perfect pitch people.

01:22:26.460 And I noticed that they all had like this very intentional way of speaking.

01:22:31.880 They're almost playing with each vowel of every word and like manipulating the frequency

01:22:37.240 of it because they know how to talk to you.

01:22:39.440 And Barack Obama would, would be somebody that I put like right up there.

01:22:43.160 Maybe he has perfect pitch or maybe he doesn't know it, but he's definitely manipulating the

01:22:47.800 way you're saying normal words or, you know, like the spells, if you want to get into, into

01:22:52.680 that much.

01:22:53.860 Yeah.

01:22:54.260 So that, that's something very interesting to like, just tag onto what you're saying.

01:22:57.580 And I had to, sorry, I had to blurt that out.

01:22:59.980 What's that, uh, what's that line?

01:23:02.100 You said it yesterday, top, uh, Nikola Tesla's famous quote about understanding the world.

01:23:07.180 Yeah.

01:23:07.560 If you want to understand the secrets of the universe, think in, uh, terms of energy, frequency

01:23:12.680 and vibration, and then they killed him.

01:23:15.120 Well, and that, that seems to be the case with Grubinikov.

01:23:20.780 Uh, I don't know if they, they killed him or if he died of old age, cause it would happen

01:23:25.000 in Russia.

01:23:25.700 So there's a whole layer of, you know, translation and, and probably the government.

01:23:30.540 Right.

01:23:31.080 So, but no, I, I think, uh, I think we're all on the same page.

01:23:36.080 And, and again, like maybe these beings were psychic enough to be able to, you know, harness

01:23:43.780 this ability to levitate things.

01:23:46.920 And like, if insects are able to do it, then, you know, it should be applicable to a larger

01:23:53.120 scale.

01:23:53.580 Right.

01:23:53.900 We live in a microcosm macrocosm relationship with our entire universe, you know?

01:24:00.460 And I think that's something that the ancients understood as a part of their symbol set.

01:24:05.760 Uh, another example of this is like with the peacock feather, like you, you look at a peacock

01:24:10.760 feather and it's entirely brown.

01:24:13.300 Like there's no purple, green, or blue, or any of that.

01:24:17.160 It's, it's all, uh, it's a brown feather, but because of the structure of the, the feather,

01:24:23.380 you know, particles themselves, the tiny little feathers that make up the entire feather, uh,

01:24:29.760 it appears to be these colors.

01:24:32.160 Right.

01:24:32.560 And I wonder if the same thing is going on with these so-called, you know, uh, shape

01:24:39.800 shifting beings, you know, maybe there's something going on with the actual structure of the being

01:24:47.860 itself or whatever they're wearing, you know, like, uh, because there's often encounters with

01:24:53.800 beings that shape shift and seem invisible or seem to defy, you know, physics, but they

01:25:00.660 can reach out and touch as well.

01:25:03.140 Like, so they have some, you know, dimension of physicalness.

01:25:07.360 They're not merely phantoms.

01:25:09.220 Like there's Sasquatch encounters where a Sasquatch will pick up a rock and throw it at somebody.

01:25:15.560 But then when they're shot with a bullet, you know, the bullet goes right through them

01:25:20.440 almost like they're a hologram.

01:25:22.340 Right.

01:25:22.580 And it's like, what's really going on there?

01:25:25.100 Is this something that is existing in another plane?

01:25:28.880 Like its structure is actually like, it's vibrating at a level that, you know, maybe people

01:25:35.500 can only perceive because they're psychic to, to loop that in there, or maybe it has nothing

01:25:40.500 to do with psychic at all.

01:25:41.800 Maybe it's merely the structure allows them to phase in and out of what is perceivable.

01:25:48.480 It's interesting because you're talking about like the frequency, the way they're

01:25:52.160 vibrating, but also like the perceived color of them possibly to like fade in and out of

01:25:58.780 dimensions.

01:25:59.160 And people with synesthesia, like Jimi Hendrix, this is another thing that I like really am

01:26:05.200 interested in.

01:26:05.880 Um, he has a song like bold as love where he's describing the colors of, of like each, each

01:26:13.740 feeling, each emotion.

01:26:14.760 But that also goes to like the colors of, of even notes on a, on a piano.

01:26:19.160 Some people see like the conglomation of a G major, which would just be an F sharp.

01:26:24.580 They'll see that as green.

01:26:25.820 You know what I mean?

01:26:26.600 Well, what if it's like the octopus where you're looking at something that's like a

01:26:31.260 small orb, but it appears to you as a giant person.

01:26:35.360 So when you shoot at it, you're not shooting at it because you're just shooting at the,

01:26:39.140 the part of it that it extends into this reality as an apparition or, or whatever you want to

01:26:45.760 call it when it's real physical.

01:26:47.700 And this is like this tiny little point of, of light that people also describe seeing in

01:26:52.980 a, in conjunction with like UFOs, Bigfoot, like people see these orbs.

01:26:57.900 I mean, Ryan Bledsoe, who's been on my show and tinfoil hat, he's shown me photos of standing

01:27:04.040 around all of these orbs, you know?

01:27:05.900 And it's like, Whoa, that's not just your camera screwing up.

01:27:09.140 Like that's clearly something going on, you know?

01:27:12.460 And I don't, I'm again, I don't know, I'm not an expert on photography, but it definitely

01:27:17.700 seems strange.

01:27:19.340 And yeah, that's kind of like what I'm, I'm adding up to is like, maybe these beings that

01:27:25.160 built these structures or participated in Lannis somehow, maybe they were at one point physical,

01:27:32.780 but now they're something else and they still exist here on the planet.

01:27:37.540 And they, you know, appear to the people who have the knowledge of how to summon them.

01:27:43.000 And maybe that's why we, we have these evils in the world.

01:27:46.980 And it's like, why would people get to such a place where they would kill so many people,

01:27:51.980 you know, Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler and Genghis Khan or whatever, you know, maybe it's

01:27:57.220 this spirit that possesses powerful people.

01:28:00.360 You know, maybe it's this type of race of beings that's not visible to us anymore because

01:28:07.960 their form is such that they can appear physical, they can appear, you know, invisible.

01:28:14.120 They're not, they're not existing in this realm the same way we are.

01:28:17.880 That's kind of what the Atlantis thing, like as cool and as fun as it is to think about like

01:28:24.680 Atlantis and this great civilization in the past.

01:28:28.000 Like it definitely has this kind of new age glitter on it.

01:28:31.120 Right.

01:28:31.480 But I think there's a much darker side of the whole conversation and not many people look

01:28:37.200 at like, you know, why Atlantis fell.

01:28:40.360 They just kind of look at that Atlantis fell.

01:28:43.040 Right.

01:28:43.360 It's maybe sounds a little funky when I said it there, but you know, all of this kind of,

01:28:50.720 to me, how did we get here from New England?

01:28:54.680 Like to, to kind of put a loop around to bring it all back.

01:28:58.260 Like what I was finding are these stone structures that it seems like they were going back to

01:29:05.680 something, right?

01:29:06.540 Like the people that lived in Europe, like they were making voyages across the Atlantic

01:29:12.760 to the new world before Columbus.

01:29:15.120 And all this stuff has been taken out, right?

01:29:17.460 And there was this mine, this copper mine, right?

01:29:20.800 They don't want anybody to know like really the true history with this stuff because they

01:29:25.860 say, oh, it was the Templars and like, oh, that whole subject is all murky.

01:29:30.520 And, you know, but it seems to me like they had knowledge of North America, even though

01:29:37.260 they weren't in North America, which suggests that they were in North America much, you know,

01:29:43.080 maybe like further in the past, right?

01:29:47.280 Like this Atlantis time.

01:29:48.860 And because they were, you know, descendants of these people who fled the cataclysm of Atlantis,

01:29:55.880 they had knowledge of, you know, certain places that were in North America that maybe

01:30:00.920 were accounted for in this Atlantis time.

01:30:03.740 So they knew, oh, there's a, because things like mines aren't affected really by cataclysms.

01:30:10.000 I would imagine something like a mine, if it's, you know, stable enough, even if it collapses,

01:30:15.680 like the minerals and all that is still in there.

01:30:18.440 You could keep, you can dig back in allegedly, you know, again, I'm not a miner, so I don't

01:30:23.900 know, but yeah, it seems to me like, why, why do we have these stone structures all leading

01:30:30.940 to this copper mine?

01:30:32.900 Maybe it's because they knew, and it's not just copper, there's definitely other minerals

01:30:38.300 in that area that they are going for, but maybe they knew about it because they were,

01:30:45.460 again, the descendants of this people that had been in North America prior to this cataclysm,

01:30:50.740 right, and they built these structures to remember their way back.

01:30:55.140 But it definitely seems to me like, you know, all of it would be totally accountable, but

01:31:04.800 historians don't account for it.

01:31:07.760 Why is that?

01:31:08.560 Because they're trying to cover this up.

01:31:10.240 They don't want people to know about the dark force from this lost civilization because

01:31:15.340 that dark force is still active today.

01:31:17.800 It's a part of the suppression.

01:31:19.760 It's why history is suppressed.

01:31:22.760 Not only that, but it also fucks with their status quo, right?

01:31:25.560 They have a position of elitism from having dumped gratuitous amounts of cash into the schooling

01:31:30.440 that's required to, you know, go down this path in the first place and to throw everything

01:31:35.940 that they've invested themselves into out the window to have to revamp the entire thing.

01:31:40.780 You know, the things that you're talking about, they're not in a vacuum.

01:31:43.260 I believe you're probably familiar with Dr. Narco Longo.

01:31:47.480 So he is oldworldflorida on Instagram, I believe on YouTube as well.

01:31:52.020 He's got a really interesting body of evidence that he's amassed that suggested that, like

01:31:58.600 you were saying, the Egyptians were here, the Vikings were here, the Moors were here.

01:32:03.360 There was a lot more going on in the Americas than the kind of homogenized, sterilized version

01:32:09.980 that we get, which is just piece pipe smoking, nature-loving Native Americans that the Europeans

01:32:17.520 came over and fucked over a million different ways and took over the lands, that there's

01:32:23.980 actually an incredibly rich history here.

01:32:27.340 Dr. Narco Longo talks about Viking burial mounds, I believe, in Florida that were discovered.

01:32:34.200 Also, there's this notion of these mounds that are being discovered all across America, and

01:32:39.720 some of them have been unearthed and found to be actually pyramids that were buried.

01:32:45.420 And so there's a lot of stuff.

01:32:46.600 I really, I listened to something recently about potential for pyramids in the Smoky Mountains.

01:32:50.560 I think that was Tony Merkel's podcast, The Confessionals.

01:32:54.700 And so we've definitely been given something.

01:32:58.000 Not only is there a real effort to protect the status quo and to protect that elitism, to

01:33:04.120 keep that gatekeeping up, but also, yeah, a real potential to hide our own history as a

01:33:10.340 people from us.

01:33:11.780 Have you guys heard of the Tuatha Dei Denen?

01:33:15.400 No.

01:33:16.040 No.

01:33:16.160 So the Tuatha Dei Denen were these supernatural race of beings that are talked about in Irish

01:33:23.080 folklore, and they were basically like magicians and sorcerers, and they're this like lost

01:33:30.360 race sort of thing, like possibly survivors of Atlantis, right?

01:33:35.520 And it's funny because other cultures have stories about them too, and they remember them

01:33:41.140 as sometimes the Tuatha Dei Anu, and other cultures just call them the Anunnaki, right?

01:33:48.060 So we have this whole story that I was kind of taught, I mentioned it briefly before, like

01:33:54.240 we have all these cultures that remember this group of teacher beings that came around and

01:34:00.340 taught, you know, everybody.

01:34:02.180 And the Irish and the Northern Europeans, you know, Scandinavians, they were all in this

01:34:08.680 part that I live in, at least, of America, and they left a lot of different things behind,

01:34:16.720 like iron furnaces, things that, you know, allegedly the Native Americans, you know, they had bows

01:34:22.500 and arrows.

01:34:23.260 They didn't have swords, right?

01:34:24.340 They didn't use iron, right?

01:34:26.200 Those were things that allegedly they first got when the colonizers came, right?

01:34:32.040 Which I don't agree with that.

01:34:33.620 I think if Vikings and Scandinavian, you know, and Irish people were here in America and they

01:34:39.740 left these iron forges behind, obviously the Native Americans would have interacted with

01:34:45.200 them.

01:34:45.440 Like it's not, that's so silly to think that they wouldn't have.

01:34:49.660 And maybe they fought with them, in which case they would have killed some of them and they

01:34:53.420 would have taken their weapons, right?

01:34:55.480 So, and we have found things like full suits of armor buried in places like Rhode Island

01:35:00.880 and Massachusetts.

01:35:01.880 We've found swords and things like that too.

01:35:05.340 So it's something that is totally, you know, unacknowledged when you look at like the history

01:35:11.400 of New England or you, you know, they don't really talk about that kind of stuff.

01:35:15.000 And I think it's, it's because there's this relationship with the giants and these magical

01:35:22.060 people that's inherently involved.

01:35:24.220 And that's why it has to be suppressed.

01:35:26.460 And you look at the Native American folklore and there's legends about all these different

01:35:31.140 creatures, you know, giants, of course, but fairies too.

01:35:34.660 They don't call them fairies, but they have other names for similar beings that we remember

01:35:39.620 mostly now as being kind of like European ideas, like fairies, dwarves, elves.

01:35:45.420 I just talked to Andy Rouse from the deep share podcast last night, and he did this whole

01:35:52.420 retracing of the words and the meanings.

01:35:54.960 And there's all these different words in different cultures that have the name elf and, you know,

01:36:01.040 has different meanings, but L used to be the shining ones, right?

01:36:06.480 So his thought is that this is a, just a, you know, a trade word.

01:36:11.680 It's, it's been traded amongst different cultures to mean these shining ones, whatever that

01:36:18.100 is, you know, angels possibly, right?

01:36:20.320 That's the other word that is also connected to the word elf.

01:36:23.760 And nowadays we think of elves, we think of like Christmas, we think of like Will Ferrell

01:36:27.680 in a stupid suit, like telling, wouldn't you, wouldn't you think of Lucifer?

01:36:31.460 But that's exactly, yeah, exactly.

01:36:33.160 And that's the thing with Lucifer too.

01:36:35.000 It's like these light beings that give us wisdom and knowledge, right?

01:36:39.040 Like, what if this is this dark faction of entities from the Atlantean times that causes

01:36:45.220 cataclysm and now they're here today talking to people who do occult rituals, talking to

01:36:51.700 people who are in secret societies who participate in occult rituals, and they're appeasing these

01:36:57.060 spirits so that they can create the technology to bring them back into physical form.

01:37:02.680 I mean, that seems to be, you know, the end game and why we're having all this stuff with

01:37:07.920 genetics and putting, you know, what inside of, you know, where, you know, and that maybe

01:37:13.900 leads into people being more susceptible to being possessed by these disincarnate spirits

01:37:20.500 that again exist.

01:37:23.100 And some people think they manipulate people like inventors and help people come up with some

01:37:29.200 ideas so that society advances to a certain level.

01:37:33.400 So, you know, there's so much that's been lost in history.

01:37:36.400 And like, again, this all kind of connects to the whole old world conversation and all

01:37:41.060 the things that have been suppressed.

01:37:43.220 Because when I first heard all that stuff, I'm like, well, shit, the town I grew up in

01:37:48.140 is 400 years old.

01:37:49.600 So if you're telling me that 200 years ago, this was all Tartaria, like I could go to my

01:37:53.880 local library and prove that that's BS, right?

01:37:56.760 And I'm not saying all of Tartaria is BS, but it's just like, it's one of these things

01:38:01.860 that I wonder, it's like, are they just telling us this old world Tartaria stuff now to throw

01:38:06.880 us off the trail of Atlantis, you know, or, or maybe the Tartaria stuff is true to a certain

01:38:13.500 extent, but like now it's just being taken to proportions that are, you know, crazy, which

01:38:19.940 happens with all conspiracy theories.

01:38:21.880 And I'm just being, you know, uh, a CUNT about it.

01:38:25.900 But, uh, you know, I just think, uh, I think when it comes to like the whole old world situation,

01:38:32.240 there's so much evidence that just gets left unacknowledged.

01:38:35.720 And we were only just beginning, at least I am just beginning to make sense of it all.

01:38:41.520 So like the Atlantis conversation, you know, there's also Lemuria, which is allegedly a

01:38:47.640 lost civilization in, in the Asia area, like, uh, maybe where Indonesia is right.

01:38:54.400 And, and, and India, like this, uh, the Indian ocean, again, would have been much, much lower

01:39:00.620 the sea level, which would have exposed all this land.

01:39:04.900 And, you know, people even now, I mean, we live by the ocean for the most part.

01:39:09.960 If you look at the majority of people, they tend to live near some body of water, right?

01:39:14.560 So if there's a massive flood, you're going to knock out 80 to 60% of the, you know, populations

01:39:22.520 of these major places where resources and trading would have gone on because they were all seafaring

01:39:29.140 people, right?

01:39:29.980 So again, if there's a big cataclysm that's centered around the coastlines, things like

01:39:35.520 boats and whatnot, other than maybe people that are out at sea might be safe, but, uh, people

01:39:42.400 that are on the coastline, their boats all would have been wrecked.

01:39:45.160 Right.

01:39:45.460 So this is something that I think went on in the ancient past.

01:39:49.480 And maybe that's why we find all these giants buried everywhere because these giants, once

01:39:55.300 this cataclysm happened, you know, they were few and far between and like, they basically

01:40:00.440 became an endangered species, you know, not to say that they weren't human.

01:40:05.600 I mean, who knows?

01:40:06.360 Like we talk about Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons and all these different allegedly types.

01:40:12.400 of humanoids that once walked the earth, like maybe the same is true for these Nephilim

01:40:17.780 beings.

01:40:18.340 Like they were able to incarnate in physical bodies at some point in time.

01:40:23.040 And because they needed this technology to sustain their population, when it was destroyed,

01:40:29.440 they just started to die out.

01:40:31.760 And, and maybe that's why they needed to be cannibals because instead of getting the genetic

01:40:36.980 material, they needed to survive from their technology, maybe they just needed to get

01:40:42.360 it directly by eating people.

01:40:44.720 Right.

01:40:45.060 So I can think cannibalism, maybe, you know, people just write it as cannibalism, like it's

01:40:50.100 scientific experimentation.

01:40:51.660 They're like dissecting, who knows?

01:40:54.000 Well, and that's another thing.

01:40:55.200 And rip apart people would have been interpreted as, you know, they're eating us.

01:40:59.480 What else do you tear apart animals for?

01:41:02.100 And what's weird about that is in another totally different area of research.

01:41:06.400 I'm so glad you said that because I didn't even think of that.

01:41:09.040 Like, that's brilliant.

01:41:09.860 And I, I'm really glad you said that because it kind of reminds me retarded.

01:41:13.840 No, that was good.

01:41:15.000 You had a moment of brilliance there.

01:41:16.880 Um, so the, the, the cattle mutilation subject, right?

01:41:21.700 Like cows just getting like weirdly surgically opened up and left in the fields.

01:41:27.080 Right.

01:41:27.800 This is something that's not new.

01:41:29.420 Like you'd think like, oh, well, surgeries are possible now.

01:41:32.620 So maybe wackos with like satanic rituals or, you know, going and doing this with surgical

01:41:38.500 equipment, no, this kind of thing has been happening for a long time.

01:41:42.080 And in the past, they didn't think about things in terms of surgery.

01:41:45.600 They didn't have the kind of surgery or surgical equipment we have today.

01:41:49.520 So they didn't think of needles, right?

01:41:52.140 What they call stuff, vampires, right?

01:41:54.180 If, if they found like a cow with all its blood drain, they wouldn't think of like a

01:41:58.960 hypodermic needle draining it.

01:42:00.900 They would think of a vampire, right?

01:42:02.760 So you have all these reports going back of like farmers finding their sheep or their cows

01:42:08.420 having their blood drain.

01:42:09.440 And it's like, maybe this whole, you know, technology has been around and there's some

01:42:14.600 sort of group of beings that fly around and, you know, saucers that they like, even though

01:42:20.840 our technology is kind of progressed from the dark ages, like they've always had advanced

01:42:25.560 technology.

01:42:26.220 Maybe, you know, that could be an explanation for these UFOs.

01:42:30.620 Let me just, let me just back you real quick.

01:42:32.520 I don't know if you saw the Skinwalker Ranch series is on Netflix now.

01:42:36.720 Um, the first season, uh, they, they, they provoke a UFO and, uh, a cow dies like nearly

01:42:44.960 underneath it.

01:42:45.840 They, they saw it on like the, the camera and the cow dies.

01:42:48.840 The rest of the flock just like get away to the other side of the property.

01:42:52.280 They take that cow.

01:42:53.480 I think, I think the way it died, like it was just like no blood just had no blood.

01:42:57.860 So they, and I'm like, okay, listen, it's on TV.

01:43:00.740 It could be bullshit.

01:43:01.580 It could be people playing around.

01:43:02.620 Um, they took that cow's carcass, they moved it to another side of the property where predators

01:43:08.060 would get it.

01:43:08.740 That's how you, you know, when I'm, when I, when I'm, when I chicken, one of my chickens

01:43:11.580 dies, I bring them to the back cause I know that there's gators back there.

01:43:14.940 Um, so they move them, they come back a year later when they, when they are, you know, airing

01:43:21.720 or they're re re taping again and they show the cow and it's just like leather, it's eyeballs

01:43:26.600 still in its eyes.

01:43:27.780 Nothing has touched it.

01:43:28.760 And it's like not even bugs.

01:43:30.900 So I don't know what to tell you about that, but I know for sure that doesn't happen.

01:43:37.020 So whatever touched that thing is, and it left a mark that we don't even know about.

01:43:42.860 It's, it's absolutely insane.

01:43:44.240 Go watch that and, and tell me what you think about that shit.

01:43:47.740 I also want to backtrack for a second to what, uh, Mark was saying, because dude, I'm pretty

01:43:53.580 sure we just did an episode about everything that he said where we went on this tangent.

01:43:57.980 I forget who we were talking to, but this idea that these things are, uh, these entities,

01:44:03.500 these, these, these demigods, these fallen, these Nephilim, whatever you want to call

01:44:07.340 them, have been slowly pushing humanity via technology.

01:44:12.980 And it starts at the most rudimentary form of technology, right?

01:44:15.900 Like agriculture.

01:44:16.860 How many of these stories about these, you know, enlightened beings, these gods or whatever

01:44:23.280 teaching, uh, early man, how to do agriculture.

01:44:28.220 And, you know, they attribute various deities to, you know, this is the deity of, of

01:44:33.480 farm and rain or, or whatever.

01:44:35.200 This is the deity of, of, you know, this is who you pray to when you want your crops to

01:44:39.120 go.

01:44:39.300 And so then eventually it gets to the point where it's actual technology and you fast forward

01:44:44.360 all the way to the 1940s when the Roswell crash happens.

01:44:48.500 And there's an argument that the crash was done on purpose for us to recover the technology

01:44:52.800 so that we could reverse engineer it.

01:44:54.860 A lot of people attribute, you know, some sort of alien intervention, uh, as to being the

01:45:01.580 reason that we have these leaps in technology and it does seem like something is pushing

01:45:06.300 us to get to the point where we can either enter some form of transhumanism where we merge

01:45:12.820 with technology, or we have some sort of insane situation with a particle accelerator where

01:45:18.600 we open a gateway to another dimension where they no longer have to come in, in, in such

01:45:23.780 a ethereal form, maybe they exist in a more physical form in a different realm.

01:45:29.260 Uh, but we just talked about that.

01:45:31.860 And so I just want to say, I, I am beginning to subscribe more and more as the time goes

01:45:36.560 on to this idea that there is, I call it the unholy Trinity, right?

01:45:40.920 It's like occultism and aliens and technology.

01:45:45.960 You know, it's kind of this, this, uh, overlapping triple circled Venn diagram, uh, because one

01:45:52.060 of the examples that I always point to is this idea that Alistair Crawley communes with

01:45:56.820 Lamb, pretty much the first depiction of a gray alien that we have.

01:46:00.200 And then look over on the other side to Jack Parsons and L. Ron Hubbard, Jack Parsons being

01:46:05.460 the father of modern day jet propulsion technology for NASA.

01:46:08.300 And he's hanging out in the deserts with, uh, L. Ron Hubbard.

01:46:12.080 And they're using Alistair Crawley's Babylon works to try to bring into this realm, uh,

01:46:16.980 the moon child.

01:46:18.100 And so you've got, uh, Alistair Crawley, the occult side, you've got lamb being this alien

01:46:23.860 side.

01:46:24.360 You've got Jack Parsons being associated with NASA.

01:46:26.900 And so you've got tech aliens and occultism and it seems to be this thing all the time.

01:46:32.180 Let me stop you.

01:46:33.280 Cause I, I know all that I've, I'm glad you brought this up because I'm thinking about

01:46:39.480 this, like the whole lamb thing.

01:46:41.600 And, uh, it's, it's, it's okay.

01:46:45.860 Maybe the first like modern at like drawing of that, but I would say that obviously there's

01:46:51.740 previous depictions.

01:46:52.760 Yeah.

01:46:53.180 I don't know if that's totally true and maybe it is, but if it is, I wonder if Alistair

01:46:59.560 Crowley was sort of putting, uh, maybe like an ancient being into the spotlight and summoning

01:47:08.520 it, right?

01:47:08.980 Like, because there are, like I said, this, this elf thing, and we think of elves today,

01:47:14.120 like, you know, Christmas kind of like little guys with hats on and stuff like that.

01:47:19.520 But when you look at the actual descriptions, they describe them as like white shining beings.

01:47:26.000 And I mean, I don't know, gray aliens, like they kind of can, I guess they could look white

01:47:31.680 too, to some degree.

01:47:33.320 Maybe, you know, if they were coming out of some sort of aircraft and they had lights

01:47:38.160 on, you know, like that could be called a shining one.

01:47:42.080 So I don't know.

01:47:42.860 I think we need to rethink like Joshua Cutch, and he has a really great book about this and

01:47:47.940 how like alien encounters and alien abduction encounters are very similar to like fairy abduction

01:47:53.760 encounters and what people describe happening in like the middle medieval period.

01:47:59.160 And again, like some of these flying saucer sightings, like they go back way before Roswell.

01:48:05.300 And also there's, uh, there's depictions of like airships, flying airships and things like

01:48:10.920 that going even further back, even in the middle ages, there's people talking about, oh, these

01:48:15.760 men came down from an airship and stole our, our crops and left.

01:48:19.540 And it's like, what, like, what, what could that be?

01:48:22.800 And it's very similar to what happens today where people are like, oh yeah, my cow got, you

01:48:27.240 know, killed by a UFO and the people are like, what, you know?

01:48:31.040 Uh, so again, this is all out there speculation.

01:48:34.840 I don't have any concrete evidence, but there's a book called a passport to Magonia, uh, by

01:48:41.480 Jock Filet that gets into a lot of this stuff with, uh, with like aliens being all that dissimilar

01:48:49.100 from, uh, from what we have in folklore.

01:48:52.080 So I appreciate the point and I know about that whole field.

01:48:55.740 And I think the occultists are probably just recognizing that, yeah, there are all these

01:49:01.040 demonic entities and things like that, that you can summon and they may be, I don't know,

01:49:06.780 made a pact with one of, one of these groups.

01:49:09.320 And that's part of why you see more of them.

01:49:12.300 And Alistair Crowley was a part of the British government to some extent.

01:49:16.540 Like he was, uh, at least dispatched from time to time as like a field agent for MI6.

01:49:23.240 So, you know, his intelligence would have gone back to higher ups.

01:49:27.040 So if he was doing these rituals in a secret agent capacity and they had some sort of military

01:49:34.280 application, that intelligence would have gone back to higher ups in the British intelligence,

01:49:38.960 which is not all that far from the American intelligence, you know, groups, right?

01:49:44.440 So this would have all been information that would have gotten filtered up the ranks and

01:49:49.300 used in different capacities.

01:49:51.300 So maybe that's why we see the military all over all of these so-called alien, uh, encounters,

01:49:57.400 as you put it, like there's this, there's this seeming triangle connecting them all.

01:50:02.400 And, uh, you know, I wonder like, again, if it's these dark spirits, these beings that,

01:50:10.220 again, they don't conform to a necessary form the way we do, they can appear in a, in the

01:50:18.200 same way, like an octopus can change its coloring.

01:50:21.440 They can change the vibration on a level that our eyes register.

01:50:25.800 Like they're above like levels above, you know, advancement of an octopus, but it's a

01:50:32.900 similar concept, right?

01:50:34.300 Where you have some, the, the fallen angels, uh, were shapeshifters.

01:50:40.400 Exactly.

01:50:41.040 Yeah, exactly.

01:50:41.700 And the Tuatha Dei Danin are described as shapeshifters too.

01:50:44.940 And that's the same thing as the Anunnaki.

01:50:47.160 So you have all these different cultures that are describing the same beings that are allegedly

01:50:51.440 shapeshifters.

01:50:52.840 And yeah, what if they're like, all right, well, Hey, now everybody has, have these like

01:50:57.100 aluminum cars driving on the road.

01:50:58.980 So let's appear in these aluminum flying ships because that matches the paradigm, you

01:51:05.420 know, in the past, maybe people saw flying wooden ships because that's all they had back

01:51:10.120 to chariots of fire, chariots and, and wooden ships on the ocean.

01:51:14.720 And that's what indigenous cultures described too, with like canoes flying through the sky

01:51:20.160 and, you know, all kinds of weird descriptions in Japan.

01:51:23.120 There's UFO encounters going back to the medieval ages, like 1100, uh, B B P or what is it?

01:51:31.100 BC?

01:51:31.660 No, no.

01:51:32.400 Now like this era, AD.

01:51:35.800 Yeah.

01:51:36.560 And, uh, they talk about a flying clay vessel, like basically like a vase, like a flower vase,

01:51:43.360 right?

01:51:43.600 Like flying through the sky.

01:51:44.820 And it kind of sounds like what people's described now is like a cigar shaped craft.

01:51:48.640 Cause the flying saucer is just one shape that people see in the sky, right?

01:51:53.740 There's, and now there's the whole UAP, which according to Chaz, who I mentioned before,

01:51:59.500 maybe connects to the, the Foo Fighters.

01:52:02.640 And he was basically saying, uh, like the Nazis might've, uh, invented some kind of weird technology

01:52:09.540 that they're now all using today.

01:52:12.040 These governments are all using the technology that the Nazis invented because operation paperclip

01:52:17.480 absorbed all that stuff, right?

01:52:19.500 Dude, you got to talk, you got to talk with Justin from cryptos of the corn because he

01:52:23.120 has the, uh, the organic UFO theory that will probably blow your mind.

01:52:27.300 Like the way he describes it is there's like a layer above us, you know, like certain, certain

01:52:32.620 pressure zones, uh, grow certain things.

01:52:35.220 And he said, there's a layer above us.

01:52:36.980 That's like way out there, very high up that shit does grow and exist at like life exists

01:52:43.660 there.

01:52:43.920 So he was just speculating, yeah, there's algae.

01:52:47.260 They, they've actually taken some stuff down.

01:52:48.940 So there's like, there's stuff up there that, you know, people that whatever you can eat,

01:52:53.240 you can survive if, if you are created that at that high of an altitude, but it coincides

01:52:58.740 with people seeing like jellyfish type UFOs or snake type, you type UFOs or like things that

01:53:04.940 were like anthropomorphic, but unidentified and flying with like silver skin kind of that, that

01:53:10.880 kind of shit.

01:53:11.840 It's very, very interesting.

01:53:14.120 And also to top it off, uh, unlike us, he's actually qualified to speak about it because

01:53:18.600 he's a biologist.

01:53:19.320 The dude is sharp as a tack man.

01:53:21.340 Like he's fantastic.

01:53:22.340 And he's really got these super compelling theories.

01:53:25.040 And it went kind of into that movie Nope, where they dealt with the organic UFO.

01:53:28.960 Uh, but Justin just knocks it out of the park with actual information, uh, and not just

01:53:33.600 Hollywood theatrics.

01:53:34.560 So a fantastic, I, I highly recommend talking to him cause he's really got some interesting.

01:53:39.360 He also managed to sneak accidentally onto a particle accelerator base and, uh, got surrounded

01:53:43.820 by guys with M16.

01:53:45.480 So fun, fun conversation.

01:53:47.680 Super cool guy.

01:53:48.320 But, uh, we're, we're dragging you now into the hour and 50 Mark.

01:53:52.140 Um, I think, uh, you know, do you have any, any kind of finishing thoughts, anything that's

01:53:56.800 kind of burning you up?

01:53:57.460 You'd like to get out there or you think you want to put a pin in it?

01:54:00.220 Yeah.

01:54:00.620 I mean, there's so many things we talked about today that I enjoy talking about on my show.

01:54:06.920 So if people want, you know, to hear more, uh, thoughts of mine on all this stuff, there's

01:54:12.380 plenty of ways to do that.

01:54:14.200 Tons of episodes that I've done, uh, about these topics.

01:54:17.160 And of course the Atlantis presentation that we touched on today, uh, you know, Sam and

01:54:23.360 the guys I gave the, I tried to give the full presentation there, you know, and, uh, I've

01:54:29.760 done that show before and this show, I felt like it'd be better to just talk to you guys

01:54:35.020 cause I, you know, we're all just meeting for the first time.

01:54:37.520 It was great to get to know you guys.

01:54:38.960 And, uh, yeah, I think, you know, I ought to come back on and continue cause we only really

01:54:43.920 scratched the surface of, uh, the Atlantis conversation.

01:54:47.460 So yeah, anytime you guys have me back, I'd be happy to join you.

01:54:51.000 You are invited back out.

01:54:52.700 Sometimes when we get like a guest that's like notoriable, I'm like, I hope they don't

01:54:56.440 hate us, but dude, yeah, you're welcome back, man.

01:55:00.480 You're a wealth of knowledge.

01:55:01.980 I feel the same way on my show.

01:55:04.260 So that's part of podcasting.

01:55:06.060 Don't worry about it.

01:55:06.980 No, no pressure for me.

01:55:08.440 This was awesome.

01:55:09.300 You guys are great.

01:55:10.120 And I'm happy to be on the Nephilim death squad anytime.

01:55:13.860 Oh yeah.

01:55:15.160 Oh, wait, I have, I think I have a drop here.

01:55:17.480 This is Nephilim shit.

01:55:19.040 There you go.

01:55:20.880 Thank you, Owen Benjamin.

01:55:22.500 He doesn't even know we have that.

01:55:24.420 Um, Mark, thank you so much, dude, for, for giving us your time and, uh, and unpacking

01:55:28.920 all that.

01:55:29.180 You're right.

01:55:29.920 Atlantis is huge.

01:55:30.640 We barely scratched the surface.

01:55:31.620 So of course we're gonna have to run this back sometime.

01:55:33.520 We'd be more than happy to have you.

01:55:34.960 Uh, one more time for the people, tell everybody where they can find you.

01:55:37.600 Um, yeah, my family thinks I'm crazy.com up there in the corner for the video audience.

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01:56:30.200 uh, just support my YouTube channel.

01:56:32.980 Cause that'll probably motivate me to try harder on YouTube.

01:56:36.560 Cause it is, it's a, it's weird.

01:56:38.680 Like I'm doing good with the podcast realm.

01:56:40.900 So I'm like, I'm just going to stick in one lane, but it would be cool to, to have a bigger

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01:57:03.500 And I think that's, that's a perfect place to leave it, man.

01:57:05.980 Thank you.

01:57:06.540 Thank you for coming on.

01:57:07.440 And, uh, guys, I think we have a show tomorrow too, right?

01:57:11.480 We have a, uh, uh, we're doing Neff to America tomorrow, which is going to be me and

01:57:15.440 top.

01:57:16.120 Uh, we have some pretty, I know right off the bat, we have something that I really, I'm not going

01:57:19.260 to spoil it, but I really want to talk about it.

01:57:20.720 You pop the clip inside the, the, the messaging, uh, group that we have, but yeah.

01:57:24.940 So tomorrow, uh, what is it?

01:57:27.400 Three 30.

01:57:28.260 Yeah.

01:57:29.600 Three 30, four o'clock.

01:57:30.660 We'll figure it out.

01:57:31.320 We'll announce it tomorrow.

01:57:32.280 Uh, Neff to America, just me and top.

01:57:34.060 And, uh, guys, don't forget to go and follow us on Twitter at, uh, Nephilim death squad.

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01:57:42.480 can stream exclusively to there.

01:57:44.140 And, uh, it's Wednesday.

01:57:45.460 So half the chat, I'm going to see you guys later in the tower gang chat.

01:57:48.380 So don't forget to check out tower gang tonight, guys.

01:57:50.960 Peace out.

01:57:51.400 Thank you guys.

01:57:51.940 The greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.

01:57:58.300 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

01:58:02.080 If you can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see, because

01:58:08.760 they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening.

01:58:15.260 And they have.

01:58:18.380 They have.

01:58:20.100 Yeah.

01:58:20.340 They have.

01:58:21.140 They have.

01:58:22.060 They have.

01:58:22.260 They have.

01:58:23.320 Yeah.

01:58:24.080 And they have.

01:58:24.120 They have.

01:58:24.540 They have.

01:58:25.240 They have.

01:58:25.760 They have.

01:58:26.240 They have.

01:58:26.600 They have.

Nephilim Death Squad - November 09, 2023

008： My Family Thinks I'm Crazy w⧸ Mark Steeves

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