008: Tarriff-a-Palooza - Dangerous RTRDs
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On this week's episode of Dangerous Retards, the boys discuss the latest in the latest viral outbreak of bird flu, the latest conspiracy theories surrounding the Deep State, and whether or not Ian Carroll should be allowed on TV.
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What is likely to happen, I don't know if it's going to be next year or 10 years or 15 or 20 years from now,
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is the emergence of another respiratory disease.
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It may be another coronavirus because we know that coronaviruses really mostly in bats have the capability of binding to receptors that are in humans.
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We're dealing with H5N1 now, which is bird flu,
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which has taken the somewhat disturbing step of infecting mammals, namely cows and cats and other mammals,
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which means it's adapting itself more to a human.
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So my concern, Walter, is that whenever that happens,
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the next outbreak will be of a respiratory disease that's easily transmissible,
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And we are making this a little bit more dangerous with the cuts and our attitude to a client?
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You haven't figured out that you're being lied to by this machine yet.
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You're a fucked idiot, and I can't help you anymore.
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Aliens, dollar collapse, demolishing of the deep state.
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Just because they've given you, as a conspiracy theorist, everything you've wanted,
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And everything above that is a disrespect to God.
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and I'm starting to think about having to eat my neighbors.
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Being at the stock market today, I have begun eating my neighbors, unfortunately.
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I'm so happy to see you owning up to it, right?
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I think a quarter of our shows have been dedicated to Ian Carroll.
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Yeah, and the remaining three quarters have been dedicated to the Jews.
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I'm looking forward today to not touching either of those two things.
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But, I mean, that opening clip is actually pretty problematic, is it not?
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Why does he still have a place where he can get in front of a camera, sit down in a nice,
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comfy armchair, and forewarn us that we're going to go through a lockdown again?
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I've got a lot of libertarian proclivities, but one of them is when I see that happening,
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I watched it on mute the first time, and I was like, there should be a law.
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He shouldn't even be allowed to, like, they hook this guy up to a fucking lapel mic,
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and they sat him in a chair, they put a camera on him.
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Three of these things should have been illegal.
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Number one, sitting this guy down, hooking him up to something that is going to amplify
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his voice, and then showing him on a TV screen.
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Send him to El Salvador with the rest of these fucking gangsters, man.
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If we're hooking up anything, it's an electrical chair.
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If we're tying anything to his neck, it's a noose.
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I'm not saying that we should do that, and I don't want to do that,
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I'm just saying that would be more understandable, is what I'm saying,
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Do you think that there's any validity to that?
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I mean, we've had, if you look back before COVID, there were countless conferences and
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such by people like Bill Gates and all of our favorite talking heads from the lockdowns
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Look, I went into 2020 thinking that viruses and pandemics are naturally occurring phenomenon
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that occur once every 50 to 100 years, and you just kind of have to strap in.
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After 2020 and after the research I did on how that came about, I'm now not even convinced
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that viruses are real or that pandemics ever naturally occur.
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Like, that's how far my spectrum has shifted, just because I understand the gain-of-function
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I understand the fact that they lied about all of this.
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Like, there's no doubt in my mind, 0% doubt that COVID was man-made.
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So to think, like, I understand Topps kind of being a little bit playful saying this should
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all be illegal to even put a lapel mic on this guy.
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It should be illegal what he did, and therefore he should not be free to be doing these speeches.
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Like, so, I mean, he committed one of the most heinous acts of violation of the Geneva
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So, one, it's galling because he's not in prison.
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Two, it's astonishing that this man has the nerve to get up there and talk about how,
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oh, there might be some fucking naturally arising, you know, bats are extraordinarily transmissible
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You funded fucking coronavirus research based off of bats.
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We all know that because you funded the fucking research.
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He's talking about this idea that it could be, you know, a coronavirus.
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Now we have this big concerning jump from, you know, avian to mammal.
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And, dude, I swear to God, I have been hearing that same narrative since, like, 2006, 2007, 2008.
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If you go back to the early 2000s and you look at the reports of swine flu and avian bird flu or H1N1,
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you will see that constantly those who are working on this gain-of-function research are concerned whenever it's seemingly,
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I swear I've been told that it's made the jump from bird to mammal countless times in history before.
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I don't know how we're still having this conversation.
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But if you look at it through that context, especially given what we know about, you know,
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everything that led up to COVID and how they clearly knew it was an orchestrated thing,
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you look at all the language from those years talking about this has been part of their plan forever.
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So if we do get an H1N1 that is, you know, massively detrimental to mammals and it jumps to humans
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and all of a sudden now it's got a high morbidity rate and it's incredibly contagious,
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I'm not going to be able to see that any other way except for you guys.
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I think SARS, I think SARS 2012 or whatever it was, like the early, you know, 2000 teens, whatever.
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Like at this point, I'm like, I don't know that any of this is naturally occurring.
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Like I really don't because, because I have hard evidence.
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You guys created something that killed millions of people.
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So why the fuck would I not assume that everything, especially since we've had these series of
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outbreaks that have happened in relatively quick succession, like why would I not assume
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Like it's, it's, it's a more logical conclusion that everything that's been happening over the
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past 40 years has been because of you psychopaths in a laboratory, which by the way, Anthony Fauci
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has been in that position more or less for the past 40 fucking years.
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So I put all of that at his doorstep, all of it.
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There's even like, I sort of got into it, not even an argument, but I proposed this weird
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Cause now since we're like just out there crazy where nobody knows what's going on,
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And my aunt was saying how like, oh, you know, there's something like going around.
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I was like, yeah, something's going around, but it feels like it doesn't affect us until
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your immune system is low enough for it to like, to actually take hold.
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So I'm like, maybe this stuff is already in us and it just kind of takes over.
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And she was like, I'm not going to let you destroy this family with these like talking
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There's so many different, like, like out of nowhere.
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And I was just like, cause like, you know, her doctor told her that something's going
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And I was like, I think your doctor is fucking full of shit.
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But that's how effective the programming is, right?
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Like I, you know, we're talking about how deep into crazy town are we, you know, Clint
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And, you know, now we have to question even whatever's going on, this kind of seasonal
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I I've gone so deep into crazyville that I can't help, but look at what he's doing there
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Because so often what they do is they inundate us with a high level of fear, right?
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And if you pay attention to Fauci, it's like, he's letting it slip.
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He's sitting in that little chair in the wizard's arm chair, and he's telling you to be afraid.
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And when he's telling you to be afraid, he's doing this kind of shit.
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Like, I don't know what it is, who, who talks like that, but he's doing a whole lot of finger
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I'm like, I'm to the point you guys might be in there making it in a lab.
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And, and if you go, whoa, spells, I just mean perception is reality and you can speak
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And if you control us with fear, we will adhere to that narrative realistic or not.
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One, I appreciate that even when I say what I think is like the most outlandish thing possible,
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David's like, yeah, that's, that's rookie shit.
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Like, I do think that there is also the possibility that, you know, oftentimes because we have been
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so, uh, fear, fear porn propagandized into being horrified of this shit that like just
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naturally occurring colds and flus, which I don't even know fucking flus are naturally
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But just, just to be clear, uh, but, uh, you know, that you can basically like convince
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yourself that you have something very serious and like, like we, like, it's just amazing
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to me how easily manipulable the masses are based off of what their TV and what their favorite
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And a good evidence of that is the story that you told top where like your relative is concerned
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that you're going to destroy the family because you're questioning whether or not there's
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a virus going around, it's just, it's amazing the power that it still holds over people
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even after they all know, they have to know that they were lied to for fucking years from
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Well, her quote was something like, uh, I'm not going to let you keep destroying this.
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So I was like, Oh, this has been like a discussion between other people.
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I figured, I figured, but they've never watched the show, but I'm like, yeah.
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Cause like whenever they say something, I'm like, you know, like this.
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But I will tell them, I'm like, I think that's bullshit.
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Like, stop, you know, things, things like that.
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And I guess it's just, it's been boiling under the surface.
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I can't, I can't even imagine the dynamic between you and your family at this point.
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I mean, you're so, you're so far gone to have a conversation with normal people.
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Like, how does it, how do they all, do they all just laugh?
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Well, I, cause I like float between this, uh, like I'll entertain them, but then I'll also be
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like, but not really, you know, and then I'll hit them with some facts and then they have
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to like, they're like, well, this guy told us a bunch of crazy shit, but then he told
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us all these facts and then they look at it and they're like, Oh my God, that's true.
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And it's like, it's kind of fun to fuck with them.
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But at the end of the day, I don't know how much is helping, but you know, I just can't,
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I'm not going to sit there and let them say some of these things.
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Cause I think David's partially right about the spell casting and here's why.
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Well, let me put that really quickly though, in a, in a, in a window that people
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Everybody's comfortable with the placebo effect, right?
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If you can believe something, then your mind somehow can overcome something.
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So if you believe that you're getting healthier or that's all I was describing earlier is
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Placebo is where we're comfortable stopping at right now as a society, but it's so akin
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to spell casting, which previously we said didn't exist.
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Now it's like, Oh, well, studies show that you're right, but it's just not what you
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So if we can believe in a pill, that's just a placebo, it's a sugar pill, and it
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And that, that, that betterness is measurable, right?
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You can actually see signs of improvement in someone's health.
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What happens when you get people to, uh, believe or internalize something that's
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negative, something like fear or something like that.
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So if we can manifest something like that in our own health, maybe when you get an entire
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swath of people to internalize something that is incredibly horrifying and negative, you
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can get them to manifest that on the world stage.
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And in fact, I think that, that probably fear is more detrimental to your health than hope
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Like if you are, if you are being fear mongered 24 seven, like I just remember the, the 2020
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era, it was just like everyone, everyone was falling apart and drug addiction, suicides,
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So like, yeah, dude, I think that the, the, uh, poison placebo pill is far more potent than
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And this is why the Bible tells you to fear not so often, but, but, but I'm sorry, I cut
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you off top while you were saying that I was correct.
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So there's like that scientific aspect of it, the pharmakia, which is actually kind of
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like wizardry if you trace it back to its roots.
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But you need that aspect to be, you know, this physical aspect to be put out into the world,
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I really do think that what they're doing there kind of like feeding us this fear does
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lower, lowers, it lowers people's whatever you'd like to call it.
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It makes them more susceptible to not just propaganda, but yeah, I think even disease and
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So it's what he's doing out here is just more, it should literally be illegal.
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If we're looking at it in that sense, it's like you can't do this to people anymore.
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We already let you do this for four years or three years when you had your time in COVID.
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We can't, we just can't allow you to do this anymore.
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You know, to pull the magic out of it for people that get upset whenever I say this shit,
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here's a version of it you're willing to accept.
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Just like placebo, stress lowers your immune system.
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If they keep you in a constant state of stress, then you're constantly subjectable to getting
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And that doesn't even necessarily have to be a gain of function thing.
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I'm not even sold on that narrative we went through during COVID just because you then
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have to explain to me that if this thing was manufactured in a lab and it was actually
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dangerous, why then the flu numbers just vanish?
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I mean, they went from millions dying of the flu annually to like a few thousand for the
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first time in history during the time when they were recording the COVID numbers.
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But that spell casting works in the other direction.
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I don't know if you guys want to go here yet, but we had a spell casted on us.
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And that spell was that this administration was going to fuck on behalf of us.
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And it seems that that's not the case, given what's going on with RFK recently.
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Clint, you were talking about it a little bit before the show.
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So just to give the backstory while he pulls it up, there's a book that is dedicated to
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the ineffectiveness, just to put it mildly, of the MMR vaccine, which is the measles,
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So yes, this is, and there was a foreword written to that book that's dedicated to how
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this vaccine was ineffective, ultimately dangerous, written by Bobby Kennedy Jr.
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And then yesterday he tweets out, um, the most effective way to prevent the spread of
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And so I pulled the, uh, the foreword that he wrote to the book dedicated to how no one
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should be giving millions of kids the MMR vaccine.
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And I juxtaposed it with his announcement as the head of, uh, HHS, uh, late last night,
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he went down to Texas to visit this family whose child, like there was this huge story about
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But then in fact, a bunch of doctors also that were, you know, in Bobby's camp kind of
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went down there or, or started to research this.
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And it came out that like, yeah, that's probably actually not what killed this kid.
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So, so the fact, like the fact that he's doing this and posting this from his, you know,
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government account, and then you juxtapose it with what he had to say here, which is,
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uh, they have been misled into believing that measles is a deadly disease.
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Measles outbreaks have been fabricated to create fear that in turn forces government
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They then, then, they then inflict unnecessary and risky vaccines on millions of children.
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So Bobby Kennedy is saying this in a foreword to a book dedicated to the ineffectiveness
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of the MMR vaccine, and then tweeting out the best ways to not get measles is to take
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It's like, I know people have kind of, uh, pooh-poohed Candace Owens and Ian, uh, on,
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on this topic of him being blackmailed cause they didn't provide, you know, the smoking
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gun evidence, but there is something to be said for just like this amount of evidence
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of like conflicting statements from this guy that just, you, you can't reconcile these
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I, I poo-pooed Ian Carroll because when, when he said that, because it's like, yeah, we
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knew, but you're just now coming forward with it now saying that like this, then he said
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he had information on it and, and I mean the information that he had on it was basically
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the same, what information, uh, that, that rabbi sitting next to RFK Jr.
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as he, you know, does a forced apology or him like f***ing up when Dave Smith's asked
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Well, here's your top, let me interject because I think the reason that it matters now more
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than it did prior, cause I, I, I saw all those things that you're describing and I, I talked
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I was the one that, that made the clip with, uh, with Dave and Bobby go viral.
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Cause I posted it and I was like, you want to see the longest pregnant pause in human
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It's like, I mean, it looked terrible, but like my argument was, and my argument still is
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Like you don't know you like, I, there's always this belief, at least from my end, that there
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is a chance that someone with good intentions lies on the campaign trail saying things that
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they don't believe in order to get into office and to do good, you know?
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Um, so the fact that he's still saying this after he already has the position is where it
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starts to become more evident to someone like me, uh, who has that, that mental framework
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that, okay, yeah, he's probably being blackmailed.
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So do you think that that's a matter of after, uh, Trump secured the presidency, right?
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So it seems like the Trump administration got in place and then, you know, something
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happened that didn't happen before when they were running these as, as, no, I'm saying,
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I'm saying that they were blackmailed the entire time probably, but like, you don't know,
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you don't know that they're not just saying what they need to, to have donors back them,
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to not to have the media, leave them alone until they actually get into a position, position
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Once they're in that position of power, if they continue to say that shit, well then
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there's, there's an, another exogenous force that's being applied to them, whether that's
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a threat against his family or blackmail of him doing, you know, sexual shit that is unspeakable,
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Um, or he sold out or he's a MKUltra, you know, uh, whatever that term is, what's a, I like
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He does look like, I mean, well, he's been on, he's admitted to being on, uh, the flight
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logs or at least the Lolita express to what level?
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He's the guy that published the black book, Epstein's black book and, uh, Oh, Manchurian
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Uh, waiting to be activated by the worm in his brain.
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I don't, yeah, I don't, I don't think he's waiting to be activated.
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I think he's like an unwitting participant in whatever's happening here.
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He's got a decent record and he's got good, he's got a good, uh, track record with the left.
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So it's like, it's a, it should have been the perfect person to kind of move forward
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I don't know how that's working out for them right now because the left doesn't seem to
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So I don't know exactly where it goes, but I think the, the, the blackmail that we're looking
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at probably does go back to this Epstein flight log thing.
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Um, I don't think it's, I don't think it's crazy to say like, Hey, you, you were, you're
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How come you don't, how come the administration that you put forward to begin with one that
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Well, I just gotta, I just gotta interject real quick because there's also, this isn't just
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me, you know, this isn't just like the semi fringe conspiracy bill that's saying this.
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Del Bigtree, who's one of the doctors who's very famous for having gone against the COVID
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narrative and going against vaccine safety and everything else.
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He responded to that tweet that I just showed you guys saying more or less what we're saying
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But then he also said, I do understand that like, there are pressures that are applied into
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the government that you have to, you have to frame things in a certain way.
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Whereas your actions may be different than what you're actually saying.
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This is a bunch of these, you know, frontline fringe doctors that became very popular during
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that era that are also saying to themselves, this is fucking weird.
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So everyone that's just writing off us and Ian and Candace and everybody else, it ain't
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Like, these are the people that know him best and they're also concerned.
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So I just, I just wanted to add that, that I think that lends credence to the argument
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There's an, there's another interesting concern as well, where it's like, we're almost being,
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it's almost being served to us on a silver platter in a way.
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So you've got RF, the RFK Jr. saying one thing and then doing another.
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Like, he's like, well, Hey bro, eliminate red 40.
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And he's like, anti-Semitism, you know, it's like, okay, uh, what are we talking about?
00:25:39.420
And it's put on this, on this platter for people to, to notice it the same way, uh, the Epstein
00:25:44.340
files that that was given to those, uh, right-wing reporters, you know, like, uh, Cernovich and
00:25:50.880
And they went out and it was a huge embarrassment.
00:25:53.700
But when you, when you look at it closer, they were never there.
00:25:57.040
Like you said, Clint, they were never there for that.
00:26:00.280
And there was a photo op set up outside of the white house to catch them with these
00:26:12.380
The question is, is like, okay, the public wants this.
00:26:16.480
And now we're being built into like a, this fever pitch of wanting this.
00:26:20.500
We want our, you know, America to be healthy again.
00:26:24.580
We want to, if, if not eliminate the vaccine schedule, we like most of America probably
00:26:29.060
wants to at the very least fix it or see some studies on it, you know?
00:26:33.760
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So is somebody doing this on purpose to build this, to build this, like this fever that
00:27:30.760
Like is the Epstein file, are Epstein's actions not big enough already that we need to continue
00:27:36.920
to build this and build this until it gets to this point where people are going to be
00:27:40.200
screaming in the streets that we, we want this, we need this now.
00:27:47.000
Um, basically like what you're saying is, is the rug pulling so egregious that it's intentional
00:27:56.660
Um, and I will say this too, and I can't give the source, but I had a insider who was talking
00:28:00.980
to me about, um, you know, Kash Patel and Bongino and whether or not.
00:28:08.140
Well, I mean, that's why I'm bringing it up now is because it adds to this case that
00:28:11.080
like, apparently there is no movement according to this one source.
00:28:15.460
So take it with a grain of salt, but apparently there is no movement from Kash, et cetera, to
00:28:20.860
go after the corruption within the FBI, the people that hunted down J6ers.
00:28:24.420
The reason that this is being talked about now is because he just promoted to, uh, like,
00:28:29.240
I think it was the DC field office, which is probably the most powerful in the country.
00:28:32.780
This guy who was primary, he was the primary dude who was hunting down J6ers and Kash, who
00:28:39.340
spent two plus years, maybe longer campaigning on the J6 prosecutions are unjust and blah,
00:28:47.120
Everybody that's involved with this is fucking corrupt and evil.
00:28:51.440
So like your point about if there is an intentional rug pulling that's so egregious to try and
00:28:59.580
And then you have the Trump administration rolling out these tariffs.
00:29:02.780
Which do you mind if I explain a little bit about this?
00:29:05.900
Please, because I'm, I'm an idiot and I don't even, I like, don't understand this at all.
00:29:09.900
So from a libertarian perspective, you know, tariffs are taxes.
00:29:16.420
However, my, my perspective has been that yes, we oppose tariffs and yes, we oppose taxes.
00:29:22.000
However, there are all these other nations that are applying tariffs to our goods.
00:29:26.260
So wouldn't it be good if we had a president that tried to negotiate threatening tariffs to get
00:29:35.500
That was kind of the sales pitch that Trump had when it came to the tariff rollout, that
00:29:39.020
he was going to, you know, threaten a ton of tariffs and then basically structure them
00:29:43.840
on reciprocity where whatever you tariff us, we're going to tariff you, you lower yours,
00:29:49.540
It's kind of mutually assured destruction, right?
00:29:51.460
And then at the last minute, they changed that paradigm and they decided to structure it
00:29:56.800
So how much do you sell us versus we sell to you?
00:30:00.380
And if that's not equal, well then fuck your mother.
00:30:02.660
Like that's the, that's the whole pitch, which is the craziest thing that you could ever imagine.
00:30:06.640
Like, do you think that it's possible for a louse to buy as many goods from us as we
00:30:14.600
Like the answer is no, you're never going to have equitable trading with every nation.
00:30:18.260
It's a fucking infantile way of looking at economics and trade.
00:30:21.760
Like nobody, literally nobody looks at trade that way.
00:30:25.480
You're a fucking idiot if you look at it that way.
00:30:27.820
So, uh, Trump after getting his entire team, his Ludnik and all these other fucking economic
00:30:34.280
advisors to structure reciprocity where it's going to be based off of how much have you
00:30:41.520
What are the non tariff trade barriers that you're applying to us?
00:30:46.320
What are the, like every single way in which trade has been unfair?
00:30:50.040
And he says, we're going to calculate our tariff reciprocity based off of that.
00:30:54.440
He then with 24 hours before the rollout changes the paradigm entirely, discards all of that
00:31:01.480
work that those guys had been working months on and just says, we're going to apply, we're
00:31:05.240
going to craft the tariff percentage based off of trade deficits.
00:31:10.840
And this is why the economy is so fucked right now.
00:31:12.900
Why Asia's on fire and every, every fucking stock market across the world is basically down
00:31:17.140
massively is because it's just the craziest thing you could ever do.
00:31:20.620
Um, and I'm just, I'm just saying that adds to the, this narrative about like rugging on
00:31:26.160
every single thing that you promised in such an egregious way that it makes people lose
00:31:34.340
It almost had, look for me, it has to be intentional.
00:31:39.040
I mean, in order for me to be correct, it has to be intentional because you guys remember
00:31:42.340
we started off this show with me beating this drum that there was going to be this massive
00:31:45.740
vindication train for the Trump administration.
00:31:47.680
It was going to get galvanized people to the Trump administration.
00:31:50.840
And we were going to see wins on all these levels.
00:31:52.940
And the reason that I thought that is because I think there's something else going on behind
00:31:56.540
the scenes as I'm an unhinged conspiracy theorist, but I also thought it was a layup
00:31:59.640
meaning so much of the things that plague us could have been easily addressed by the Trump
00:32:03.240
administration and the way that he went through with his executive orders when he first
00:32:07.220
got in, uh, to me was an indicator that I was on the right track.
00:32:10.680
Now, all of a sudden they're doing so many things that are so obtusely retarded and people
00:32:15.680
are becoming disenchanted with the administration rapidly.
00:32:18.060
So I'm like, in order for me to be correct, this has, cause I didn't see any of this coming.
00:32:22.540
I thought for sure it would have been very easy.
00:32:24.680
We were just going to get everything that we wanted because that's the way the theater
00:32:28.800
So in order for me to be right, uh, I got to toss my, my coin in the hole.
00:32:33.300
This is an obvious rug pull to get us to react in some way, shape or form.
00:32:37.880
I, I mean, I don't know how people didn't see this coming.
00:32:45.220
So, uh, the European union folds and offers a zero for zero tariffs, which is what the
00:32:55.480
You fucking psychopaths have been running, have been running the show for quite a while
00:33:00.380
and doing, doing this insane shit to us for a long time.
00:33:03.780
And it's, I feel like when you're negotiating with somebody who is not rational, most of
00:33:08.460
these people, they have like 200% tariffs on like basic goods just because they can, when
00:33:13.900
you're negotiating with somebody, you, you always ask for more.
00:33:16.180
And when, and when they give you what you wanted, do you stop there?
00:33:21.380
There's going to be a lot of suffering in the, in the short term, but I don't see how
00:33:27.520
And it, it has any longevity unless you really smack the shit out of these people and you
00:33:35.300
So there's going to be suffering and libertarians talk about this all the time.
00:33:38.620
If you, if you're going to have a correction of the market, it's going to be crazy.
00:33:42.300
It's going to be really bad, but there has to be a correction.
00:33:45.940
If you want it to be stable or at least the way you were predicting that you were, you
00:33:51.640
I got, I got to make the, the libertarian defense here because it's like, if yes, we
00:33:56.300
all prescribe, you know, taking your medicine, which is like going back to sound money, uh,
00:34:01.400
dealing with the national debt, everything else that like we would like to see done, but
00:34:06.240
He just, he just a month ago or less was the basically deciding factor on whether or not
00:34:12.060
that continuing resolution was going to be supported by the GOP, which ultimately nullified
00:34:16.280
all of the hard work that Doge had done and continued the spending paradigm that had existed
00:34:20.360
under the Biden administration in his last president, last year of his presidency.
00:34:23.400
So, um, there's just, there's the mixed messaging on this is what concerns me.
00:34:29.520
It's like, this doesn't, it like, if you want to take your medicine, which I agree with you,
00:34:34.060
we ought to, like, we need a deflationary wave.
00:34:36.360
We need housing pricing to come down so that young people can afford homes and all that.
00:34:40.320
Like, I'm, I'm with you on that, but that's not really what he's doing.
00:34:43.520
Like what he's doing is he's creating a economic calamity because he's intentionally
00:34:48.860
being misleading on so much of this tariff policy and, and essentially just constantly
00:34:56.140
changing or moving the goalposts on like what he wants so that no one can acclimate.
00:35:00.180
And no matter what you feel about like his intention here, you have to understand that
00:35:06.040
the economy is always forward looking, that you're only going to deploy capital and make
00:35:11.300
capital expenditures into, you know, building labs and building facilities and factories and
00:35:16.760
everything else. If you have guidance, if you have some level of clarity on what's going to happen
00:35:21.720
at this point, no one on the planet has clarity. No, like they can't even guess at what's going to
00:35:28.780
happen. So what, what you're going to see as a consequence of that, and you know, if you're,
00:35:33.260
if you're a trust the plan type, you go, this is all intentional. But what I'm saying is like,
00:35:37.560
this is going to force anybody who's paying attention to sit on their assets, which means that
00:35:43.220
you create a deflationary wave, which crashes everything. So if you're doing that intentionally,
00:35:48.220
okay, okay. But like, what's the real game plan here? Because I can't, I can't decipher it at this
00:35:53.760
point. It just looks like he's creating havoc for the sake of havoc. And I think that that's why the
00:35:59.080
market's reacting how it is. And I don't blame them, you know, as a former money manager, that's
00:36:02.880
what I would be doing. I would be fucking going to cash aggressively or going to T-bills or,
00:36:06.520
and now to give the trust the plan people there do, the argument of them going to T-bills is that
00:36:13.640
he's trying to beat down interest rates so that we can refinance this 9 trillion of our debt at a
00:36:19.280
lower rate later this year. Like, okay, that's all possible, but that's only a couple hundred
00:36:25.720
billion dollar savings. The federal government spends six to seven trillion annually. So we're
00:36:29.900
talking about a fraction of the federal budget, but Trump is still pushing continuing resolutions that
00:36:34.640
fund the government fully at the highest levels in human history. That, like, if you juxtapose
00:36:40.300
those two facts, it doesn't vibe. It doesn't make any sense. So I can't, I can't make heads or
00:36:44.640
tails of it is basically what I'm saying. Well, have you considered that this is his way of ripping
00:36:48.320
off the band-aid and just being done with it? I mean, that could fix things, no? But you can rip off
00:36:53.900
the band-aid in a much more effective way is what I'm arguing. It was just a rip off the band-aid joke, right?
00:36:58.720
Oh, yeah. Well, then I'm convinced he's doing the right thing. What's the point here, Clint? I mean,
00:37:03.240
so the people that are trusting the plan are incorrect because they think that it's going
00:37:09.100
to go back the way things were and that he's going to be able to rectify this. But the truth
00:37:13.120
of the matter is libertarians know this. Everybody knows this. The dollars that we're talking about
00:37:18.120
in spending are, they need to die. This whole thing needs to go away. The nefarious part-
00:37:24.460
We need to, just to add to your point, we need to absorb the trillions and trillions of additional
00:37:30.720
currency units that were flooded into the global economy from 2020 to 2022. So you can make an
00:37:36.740
argument that that's what his economic team is attempting to do. But when you're in charge of
00:37:45.720
I mean evaporate. I mean destroy. So from some estimates, there was approximately 15 trillion
00:37:53.000
in US dollar terms that was printed from 2020 to 2021 globally. So if you convert all of those
00:37:59.100
currencies, sure, they're euro and yen and everything else. But if you convert them all
00:38:02.440
into US dollar terms, the estimate is that it was about 15 trillion motherfucking dollars that was
00:38:06.740
printed in two years, which is the craziest thing that's ever happened. Ever, ever, ever. So if you
00:38:13.060
want to absorb the inflationary pressure that the entire world's been languishing under for the past
00:38:17.760
three years, well, you create a deflationary wave. You create a stock market crash. What happens in that
00:38:23.460
period is that all of this paper wealth that had been accumulated as a consequence of the
00:38:27.940
inflationary pressure that you created by the printing press, you can evaporate trillions of it. In fact,
00:38:32.760
he has. Trillions of dollars have been evaporated from the markets, from the global markets. I mean,
00:38:36.840
I'm just talking about the American market. You go fucking across the world. I don't know how much
00:38:40.200
has evaporated over the past week. Like it's a huge amount. So yeah, you could make that argument. I
00:38:46.080
just think that there's a lot better ways to do this and I don't understand it. I don't think they
00:38:51.960
even really care how they do it. It doesn't look like we're going to be going over to anything that
00:38:56.320
resembles the dollar. Like evaporating the dollar and resolving its issue so that $1 is worth $1
00:39:02.720
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00:39:58.360
And then I would just play with the money however I want. And it's like, we're going to slide over
00:40:02.680
real nice. People are going to be asking for this cryptocurrency or this digital dollar
00:40:06.500
because the dollar is going to be completely worthless. So that's just what it seems like
00:40:10.280
he's doing to me. So when we're talking about, I don't know, like the monetary spending and like,
00:40:15.640
like, I don't understand how you guys aren't seeing that this is unsalvageable anyway.
00:40:24.460
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Susan Humphrey's episode of Rogan? No, thoughts. I thought it was pretty fascinating,
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especially the stuff about tetanus and polio. I will check it out.
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I saw a good, I saw a good chunk of it. Yeah. I mean, this is, yeah, this lady seems legit.
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Okay. I will check that out. And then I stopped listening to Rogan because I will not be Laurel
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Canyoned. Thank you very much. Blake Derrick says, look into RFK Jr.
00:41:28.320
murdering his wife that committed suicide. Very interesting. I've looked a little bit into it.
00:41:32.900
Man, he killed the lady after she killed herself. That's crazy.
00:41:35.460
It's wild. Double murder. Yeah. Put him under the jail.
00:41:38.660
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Bye. Right. Bye everybody. Okay. Please continue Clint. Um, all right. So I just wanted to talk about
00:42:02.140
like, like if I go full Whitney Webb and I want to really think about what you could be doing. So you
00:42:09.120
create such economic calamity that ultimately the Fed, yes, you do, you will, you do beat down
00:42:16.000
interest rates, which allows you to refi, but then simultaneously you're, um, you're basically trying
00:42:22.600
to create such economic calamity that the Fed starts QE, that they start to basically pump
00:42:27.980
currency and, and artificially juice this economy. And then you just go all in with something crazy,
00:42:34.720
like a war against Iran. And then the currency starts to really become confetti because we're
00:42:40.500
now fully like Weimar status. And we're just printing to stay, stay alive. You destroy the
00:42:45.400
currency, you migrate into tether or some other, uh, you know, stable coin as they're already talking
00:42:50.760
about rolling out and you, you have already, uh, you know, front ran that market because you've
00:42:56.300
already deployed, like all of your, you know, inner cabal has already deployed their capital into
00:43:00.300
that, into that asset class. And therefore the, the power structure, as we transition from the U S
00:43:05.980
dollar to some other currency, you get the lion's share of the benefit. Like I could go, I could go
00:43:12.040
that way. And then you have the reason that Elon's got in bed with Trump is because he's, uh, on top of
00:43:16.960
everything, but he's on top of the, the automation and robotics. And their entire plan here is that
00:43:24.000
we create such enormous, uh, trade barriers that we don't give a fuck what happens to the economy.
00:43:28.340
All we want to do is get these companies to start to produce their goods in America so that they can
00:43:33.600
avoid the tariffs. And then we don't give these jobs to Americans. We just fucking bring in Elon's
00:43:39.380
robots. There you go. And then Elon becomes the overlord that controls everything. Our financial
00:43:44.920
Titans control the currency and Bob's your uncle. We've, uh, officially transitioned into the Kings
00:43:50.600
of the next century. That's what we've been. There you go, Whitney. I can fucking do it too.
00:43:55.040
Sorry. Go ahead. Yeah. But, but I mean, that's, uh, dependent on what lens you're looking through.
00:43:59.480
It almost doesn't matter because it's the same thing. It's whether or not you're Alex Jones,
00:44:02.600
right? Who's been doing this since the nineties, I think, uh, worried about this new world order,
00:44:08.320
this consolidation of power, this consolidation of a, of a world currency. It doesn't matter like
00:44:13.040
through which lens you're seeing this, it's all moving in the same direction, whether it's, you
00:44:17.780
know, people who are blowing the horn about transhumanism or something like that. Everything
00:44:21.620
is moving towards them controlling the means to production, them controlling just one currency,
00:44:27.120
you know, out of this, we'll probably get some sort of birth world religion. All we need is a
00:44:30.740
little bit of like a UAP disclosure and that thing is ticked off. So, you know, right now it's very
00:44:36.380
nuanced because we're seeing all the machinations in front of us at this moment, but people have been
00:44:40.320
talking this shit for years, man. And it's all just a movement towards consolidation of power
00:44:45.100
you establish, or you determine what is powerful and they will determine how they consolidate it.
00:44:50.560
And we're, we're pretty much to that point right now. It's all the same shit, baby. Um,
00:44:56.740
do you guys want to move on to the blacks and the, uh, the, the, the chest stabbings? I don't know
00:45:02.300
how to present that to people. Um, this is actually something that you guys want to move into the
00:45:06.740
racism segment. You guys want to go into the racist segment? We didn't talk about the Jews
00:45:10.500
and we didn't talk about, uh, there was something else. I forgot what it is. Yeah. Let's, let's leave
00:45:14.320
the Jews alone this week and just go to the, uh, go to the blacks. It's going to be hard. There's
00:45:17.900
been some stuff about Dave Smith that I would like to talk about, but yeah. Um, well, you can't call
00:45:22.080
him a Jew though. You have to just call him Dave Smith. Clint, you had, you had a little bit of a
00:45:25.320
different opinion on this than I did with this guy's father. So what happened here is it.
00:45:29.940
I don't think we have that dramatically, uh, opposed opinions, but we'll get into it. Go ahead.
00:45:34.140
Can we tell the whole, let's start from the whole story. Cause I'm out of the hood on this a little
00:45:37.620
bit. Um, I don't know if it, cause my understanding peripherally is that there was a, uh, I guess this
00:45:42.400
was in school. There was an altercation where, uh, two young white lads asked, uh, a black lad to
00:45:47.800
move out of their seat. And then somehow this ended up getting the, the white dude stabbed in the chest
00:45:54.460
twice. There's conflicting, conflicting reports. According to the defense attorney, um, they told him to leave,
00:46:00.800
but then basically threatened him. They broke his cell phone and then this kid defended himself
00:46:04.720
by stabbing the dude in the heart, you know, which is how I defend myself. This, uh, I think it was at
00:46:09.960
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Yeah. And this is, this is who did it. This is, uh, Camelo, Camelo. Oh, Carmelo. I'm sorry.
00:46:48.200
His name is Carmelo Anthony. Uh, shout out to the New York Knicks and Denver Nuggets superstar.
00:46:54.340
Uh, so this is Matt Walsh. He says thousands of people in the black community. Want to bring that
00:46:58.720
back up real quick, Tom? Uh, thousands of people in the black community have rallied against Carmelo
00:47:02.900
Anthony and given over $160,000 to his family as a reward for murdering a white kid, which is
00:47:08.440
fascinating because, uh, Matt Walsh, he, he wrote this tweet earlier about it and more or less what
00:47:14.820
he said, I'm paraphrasing, but he was like, if there were, um, two kids in an altercation, one got
00:47:20.440
stabbed and the other one did the stabbing. And I told you one was black and one was white.
00:47:24.600
The vast majority of people would determine that it was likely the black one who did the
00:47:28.680
stabbing. And then he went on to say that black people are disproportionately violent in comparison
00:47:32.580
to white people. And this needs to be addressed. And, you know, uh, I just want to say to Matt
00:47:37.920
Walsh, I did it first. Okay. I went viral to the, to the extent of 18 million, uh, views on my tweet
00:47:44.740
about just virtually the same thing. I got docked. Uh, yeah, I called the kid day quill. I got doxxed and
00:47:50.900
they called CPS on me. And, uh, um, I would like to congratulate myself because, uh, about a few
00:47:56.960
weeks ago, I finally got past that 60 day investigation period with CPS. And all because
00:48:03.120
I said that black people are disproportionately violent in comparison. I can't, I can't believe
00:48:07.820
you had CPS called on you for that, but here, I had to have a walk through my house and everything
00:48:12.200
was fucking fantastic. So this, this is the father of the boy who was murdered. So let's, let's play what
00:48:18.640
he has to say. It's very unfortunate that this other child decided to make a bad choice that's
00:48:24.260
going to affect him for the rest of his life. I have compassion for every human being. This
00:48:30.880
is not, I want to make this very clear. This is not a race issue. This is not a black and
00:48:36.040
white issue. I don't want someone stepping up on a soapbox trying to politicize this. I don't
00:48:40.940
appreciate some of the remarks I've seen online that people say there was this fight and there
00:48:45.920
was, they don't know they weren't there. All right. What do you think about this? Cause
00:48:51.960
you had a, you had an opinion. You, you were saying that you kind of agree with the father
00:48:55.940
here. That's not at all what I said, but I love, I love how you have to straw man my position
00:49:02.600
to set yourself up to dominate me in the debate. Um, the race traitor. No, no, that was not my
00:49:09.700
point. My point was Kevin Sorbo and others that have, have shared that clip. I mean, Kevin
00:49:14.140
Sorbo from now on you'll refer to him as Hercules. Yeah. Hercules has, has 2.4 million followers
00:49:19.380
on X and he's saying, this is not how a father should act. And he just tweets this out. And
00:49:23.780
my, my entire point in this is that I don't agree. Yeah, there you go. I don't agree at
00:49:29.760
all with what this father has to say. I don't agree at all with how he's reacting to the murder
00:49:35.100
of his son. I like my, now granted I'm not a dad and I hope to never have a child murdered.
00:49:41.660
So I don't know exactly how I would react, but my, my expectation of myself would be
00:49:47.700
that I'd probably go completely insane and try and hunt down whoever killed him. And
00:49:53.080
if they're already in, you know, in a prison cell, I'd probably just lay in my bed for
00:49:58.080
the next year. Like I'd just be so emotionally destroyed that my son had been murdered.
00:50:01.820
I don't even know how I would react. I certainly wouldn't be talking to the fucking media, uh,
00:50:05.480
unless like we were trying to hunt down his killer and I needed help. You know, like that's
00:50:09.420
the only reason I would possibly be talking to the media. So I don't agree with anything
00:50:13.600
that this guy had to say. And he doesn't know if it was racial or not. And the fact that
00:50:17.440
he's just like shit lib retarded about it is all kind of, you know, a standard expectation
00:50:22.860
of, of a boomer. Like that's kind of how they look at the world. So not defending anything
00:50:28.440
about this. All I'm saying is if you're using a father in mourning and him saying dumb shit
00:50:35.860
as an opportunity for clicks and, you know, and traction on social media, I think you're
00:50:41.160
a monster. Like I would just, I'm just saying, do, do you think because of what he has to say
00:50:46.040
in this moment that he deserves additional pain and to have people, you know, hunting him
00:50:51.080
down and fucking standing outside his house and screaming at him? Cause that's the type of
00:50:54.700
shit that happens when you have someone like Kevin Sorbo post that. It's like, I just wouldn't
00:50:58.680
do it. That's all I was saying that. And I stand by that. I think it's wrong.
00:51:02.180
You think he's scared of the black community targeting him for, uh, saying anything like
00:51:06.580
in private, he must be like these fucking, you know what I mean? Is that what you're getting
00:51:10.740
No, no, no. I don't even think that he's afraid of the black community. I think he's afraid
00:51:13.980
of his white, you know, shit lib friends that go look at it. Your son was murdered.
00:51:19.020
And now there's, you know, a race war is about to break out because all these people are saying
00:51:24.020
this is about race and you didn't fucking, you know? So I just think he's a, I think
00:51:27.740
he's a coward, but at the same time, like he just lost his kid, man. Just leave him alone.
00:51:35.140
I will say you're probably making a bunch of crazy decisions because not only are you
00:51:38.240
dealing with the emotional aspect of your son dying, but you're also in a brutal fashion,
00:51:43.760
but you're also dealing with being inundated and it might not be coming directly to him.
00:51:47.560
I'm not saying this guy has a show ever gets like big enough. I want to every, every week
00:51:51.800
we do it. I just want to propose that there's a race war. Like how Tim Poole has his civil
00:51:55.340
war. I just want to be like, there's a race war on.
00:51:58.000
No, I don't want to, I want to recommend, I want to advocate for a race war. Um, so, so
00:52:04.540
we're not warning about it. We're propagating it. We're telling you to do it in Minecraft.
00:52:09.500
Uh, so, so, I mean, yeah, as far as the emotional kind of chaos of having your son die and then
00:52:16.080
being inundated with all of this crap about, I saw some of the tweets that, um, random black
00:52:21.140
folk on Twitter were posting. That's certainly not representative of the whole, but it's still
00:52:25.220
jarring a lot of sentiments of like this boy deserved to die. Uh, I even saw some, some black
00:52:30.300
chick saying, um, if you, and this was confusing, but she said, if you fuck with a pit bull long
00:52:35.800
enough, you're bound to get bit. And I was like, you just called, are you, I'm not sure what
00:52:40.080
you're saying here. I'm also not sure that I disagree. Um, so look, man, it's a, it's,
00:52:45.700
it is a weird, I wish we could leave him out of it. And I, I'll say that I didn't see the
00:52:51.000
entire clip. I don't know what this entire interview was about. This dude could have been
00:52:54.700
given, do we have any idea how long he was given press? Because if you're up there for
00:52:58.720
a long time and you're just rambling and rambling, eventually you're going to say some
00:53:04.980
But I honestly, I tried to ignore this entire story. I just, when Kevin Sorbo posted that,
00:53:10.440
I was like too far. This is too far. Like this father, this father, this father just got
00:53:14.740
fucking killed, man. You got it. You got it back off. Like, you know what it is, what it
00:53:19.100
is, is that it's, it's a reflect, I understand what Kevin Sorbo is doing. He's doing it for
00:53:22.620
clicks. But for me, this is a misunderstanding of the culture and not, that's just a misunderstanding,
00:53:28.280
but a neglection of the culture. This is very boomer-esque. Like we're living, they're living
00:53:32.760
in the society that they think, uh, is going on around them. But in fact, it's not. And
00:53:38.400
now you've been presented with the truth of the society, uh, with your son's funeral.
00:53:44.760
And I was corrected. I said, you know, I said that they ended his bloodline, but no big deal
00:53:48.000
because it's not a, you know, it wasn't a race thing, but he, so he had twins, uh, the
00:53:54.760
No, this is a really important aspect of this. His twin brother held him as he bled
00:53:59.800
out. Yeah. No, I'm saying so. So it's fine. He didn't end his bloodline, Clint. There was
00:54:04.180
another one. So it's okay. Yeah. I know, I know, but I'm just saying like, just imagine,
00:54:09.560
just imagine being in that situation as a father where you've got two boys, one of them's brutally
00:54:15.820
murdered and the other one held him as he died. It's like, I just don't expect perfection
00:54:20.920
from anybody in 40, within 48 hours of that happening. Like, that's all I'm saying, leave
00:54:26.040
this fucking guy alone. If you want to have a debate about what he had to say and everything
00:54:30.040
else. Okay, fine. But just like, stop sharing him. Like, I just don't want him to become
00:54:34.780
famous because of the worst thing that could ever happen to a dad. It's just sucks.
00:54:39.200
Yeah. It misses the point. The point that I'm trying to make here is that like, these people
00:54:43.280
are so ignorant of the culture and the times that we're in. Like, I, I can't imagine how
00:54:49.520
I'd react, but also my kids are not going to be in that situation. Uh, Josie says, I
00:54:55.700
saw his soul leave his eyes and then so did mine. The brother. Yeah. Horrifying quote.
00:55:00.500
You put your kids in that situation, dad, because you're not fucking paying attention. And this
00:55:05.260
is, this is my problem with what he's doing here. You're repeating talking points that
00:55:09.600
you've seen on the CW, you know, you watch Smallville or some shit like that. And this
00:55:14.060
was, this was what you got from it. Or we were just talking about Robert Kirkman's
00:55:17.640
Invincible, which has been completely neutered from the comic book that it was to some woke
00:55:22.060
piece of shit. And you watch this, you internalize it. This is the world that we live in. It's
00:55:26.180
all fine. It's, it's a hard message to say, but it's like, yo, I can't have my kids grow
00:55:30.380
up around this kind of shit where if there is a small altercation, my kid gets stabbed in
00:55:36.500
the heart by some fucking animal. And yeah, no animal, not regardless of skin color. Although
00:55:41.620
this could have been avoided. If you just don't live next to this shit, there's a certain
00:55:46.540
behavior that whatever truth time. There's a certain behavior that comes with this. I've
00:55:51.020
grown up and I've seen it. I've had, I got hit in the fucking head with a battery just
00:55:54.900
for being, just for existing next to these people. Like they suck. Get away from it.
00:56:00.200
The truth of the matter is this is real. This is happening. And if you don't deal with it,
00:56:04.540
you're going to be this asshole on TV saying these dumb ass talking points with your other
00:56:08.740
stupid friends who are living in your fantasy. And now you got a dead kid. I don't care if you
00:56:12.920
got fucking two of them. One of them's dead. Okay. You raise them for how many? It's such
00:56:17.980
a tragedy. The tragedy is that like, we're watching this. Kevin Sorbo is going to get,
00:56:22.340
you know, rich off his Twitter payments. But the reality is you're watching this and nobody's
00:56:26.940
learned. The truth of the matter is this is going to happen. People like this are being
00:56:32.480
emboldened to the tune of almost $200,000. Like they're putting their money where their mouth
00:56:36.780
is. They think that this is fine. It's not fine. The lesson is just get away from it,
00:56:41.340
man. Learn from this or even warn your kids. Like if you economically can't get away from
00:56:46.860
this. Don't make eye contact. Don't be in their general vicinity. Like, I mean, no shit. That's
00:56:50.520
literally shit that you have to warn people. Honestly, dude, it's fucking crazy, dude. But
00:56:53.320
this is how I had to behave when I was living in New York. When I go back, it's like, if I
00:56:58.660
see this person, he's making hard eye contact with me. It's either I like, I'm like, I put my
00:57:03.200
eyes this way, but he's in my peripheral at all times. I don't let him take my back. I watch
00:57:07.580
where he's going. And you know what? It could be whatever. Call me racist. I'm alive.
00:57:11.600
I've survived. I haven't been stabbed in the chest. It's a lesson to learn.
00:57:15.060
Yeah, not. I grew up in about race. This is a rough area, like a really rough area. And
00:57:20.600
I grew up watching shadows. And I don't mean like looking at black people. I mean, like
00:57:24.360
when I'm walking home at 100%, I would look to see if shadows were approaching me because
00:57:29.660
your shadow is stretched by the street lamps. So I would know based off of whether I could
00:57:34.680
see the head of your shadow that I have a certain amount of like seconds before you catch up to
00:57:39.240
me in the street at night. This is fucking ridiculous. And so, I mean, this conversation
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Gross. To hear a guy feel like he needs to be worried about these talking points. You
00:58:21.100
know, if my son got stabbed, it'd be the last fucking thing I'm worried about is telling
00:58:25.440
I would be out there telling you the truth. There would be a mob at my house because I'd
00:58:29.460
be like, yo, this is what you get. This is exactly what you asked for. This is what happens.
00:58:34.360
It's unfortunate. I don't want it to be that way, but it's like, yo, if you're going to have
00:58:38.340
kids, especially young men, you have to warn them about what happens in these situations
00:58:43.560
because it's just a reality. I wish it wasn't, but it is, man. This is how I survived. This
00:58:49.120
Let me add into Tops because I have a perspective on this. I think it will maybe surprise you
00:58:54.920
guys. And it's because my stepdad is a New Yorker. He was raised in New York. So I understand.
00:59:01.380
I think this is why Top and I get along so well, actually, is because I was raised by a guy
00:59:04.400
who's, who has Top's perspective, who like, he was a, you know, Italian, but looks like a white
00:59:09.460
guy that grew up in, you know, in New York around a lot of black dudes. And he got his ass fucking
00:59:14.360
whooped by black dudes on the regular. So he's got a very, um, very similar perspective to Top and
00:59:19.440
that like, yeah, man, there's, there's danger here and you have to be fucking aware of it. And he taught
00:59:25.440
me a lot of those, uh, traits of like, just don't make eye contact with the homeless and blah,
00:59:30.660
blah, blah, like that type of shit. So, uh, it's, it's like, it is a survival tactic that if you grew
00:59:36.740
up in these areas, you adopt it because you have to. So this is why I understand your perspective. But
00:59:42.700
at the same time, at the end of the day, like 90 plus percent of black people to my understanding
00:59:47.960
never committed violent crime. So you just, it's very, it's very hard to, but then that's a huge
00:59:54.380
percent that will commit a violent crime too. So it's like, I don't know how you decipher it.
00:59:58.820
And this is why, um, it puts me in a tough, tough spot.
01:00:03.040
If I'm in an environment, like if I'm walking where I used to work, I used to work in Brownsville,
01:00:07.240
go figure, great name, exactly what it is. And if I'm walking through this place, I am the only
01:00:12.160
white face. And then these people online call me Brown, but they, isn't that where Mike Tyson
01:00:17.040
was born? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is, you know, Brownsville, New York, uh, like Linden,
01:00:21.800
Linden Boulevard, shit like that. When you're walking down this place, this place is fucking crazy.
01:00:26.580
And it's just me and the rest of the people are a hundred percent black. So you're saying
01:00:31.200
if only 10% are violent criminals, well, what's the, what's the chances there's hundreds of them
01:00:35.820
here. You have to, you just got to be careful because yeah, a lot of them are really good people,
01:00:40.300
but there's 10% that are fucking crazy and you can spot them. You can spot that notion of 13% of the
01:00:47.300
population and over 50% of the violent crime. And I know there's some variants or whatever, and people,
01:00:51.520
you know, contest that, but my own living experience has showed me that that's likely very true.
01:00:55.920
I just want to tell the story of what I went through. Cause I haven't told it on this show.
01:00:59.940
It was a few months ago. I was picking my son up from school. My son had previously told me that he
01:01:04.740
only had like two good buddies in school. As far as I'm concerned, that's really all you need is two
01:01:08.160
good buddies. But he still, despite that every day after school would say, Hey dad had a good day.
01:01:13.540
Every time I said, how was, how was your school? He goes, good day. It was a good day. And he's always
01:01:17.160
saying that. And so one day I go, Hey, you know, you always tell me you had a good day at school,
01:01:20.700
but you've also told me that you only have two friends at school. Right. And he goes, yeah. And I go,
01:01:24.660
well, what are the other kids like? And he goes, yeah, they're kind of assholes. They're always
01:01:28.200
giving me a hard time. And, uh, you know, whatever, whatever. So I have my suspicions
01:01:32.700
because of my own lived experience. Uh, but I'm not going to put that on my son. And I'm genuinely
01:01:37.840
not. Well, that barrier has since been broken after this, but I go, well, what, what are these
01:01:44.540
other kids like? And I'm trying to find out some attributes about them without giving it away to him.
01:01:48.700
And he goes, I don't know. They're just like everybody else, I guess. And I go, okay, that's fair.
01:01:51.360
What do they dress like? And this is too vague of a question. He goes, I don't know. Kind of dress
01:01:55.160
like everybody else. I'm like, fuck man. Ah, I got it. What are their names? And I figured these
01:02:00.860
names will have a ring to them and I'll be able to, you know, decipher who it is. The first one's
01:02:06.160
name. I won't say it. I gave a fake name online. I said, Jamal. And the second one's name, who I also
01:02:11.120
gave a fake name for online was Dayquil, um, which actually pissed off an incredible amount of people.
01:02:16.040
And all I did when he told me their names is I said, ah, okay. I see what's going on here. And
01:02:23.640
there's a long silence in the car. And my son turns to me and he goes, I never realized until now that
01:02:29.540
they're all black. And dude, I don't, I didn't know what to do. I didn't know what to say. I'm,
01:02:36.360
I'm driving home. It's a short drive home. I go. Yep. Yep. Yep. Crazy. Crazy. Right. Same thing
01:02:45.040
happened with my wife. Same thing happened with my wife. When I met her, we were dating for a long
01:02:48.560
time. She's like, I don't know why you talk like this. And this was like early. This is like,
01:02:51.920
you're talking about 21 year old, 20 year old top. So I was like, not as wild as it was,
01:02:57.260
but I used to tell her, I'm like, yo, be careful. She's walking through Nostrand Avenue again. It's
01:03:01.680
like Nostrand and Avenue X, very ghetto, right across from the projects, mad projects. And she had an
01:03:07.860
encounter. And then she comes back to me. She goes, you know what, man, you were a hundred percent right.
01:03:11.320
I was like, I know, I know it was right. But I was trying to warn you, like,
01:03:14.700
you got to be careful because like, you know, something happens if, if you're putting yourself
01:03:20.100
out there and you're not being careful, like, and all she did, all you, all she did was walk on
01:03:25.600
the side of the street where the projects were like, it's like project building. And then they
01:03:29.380
have a courtyard where they hang out. And I was like, you walked over there and then they started
01:03:34.240
throwing shit at you. And I was like, yeah, I could have told you that I did that once. And I
01:03:38.920
it's sad. It's, it's completely sad. Clint. Like, I wish I didn't have to talk. I don't have to talk
01:03:43.520
like this anymore because I'm not around it. Right. But my kids, unfortunately, they're
01:03:48.240
going to have to learn that lesson. I don't know how to teach that to them without looking
01:03:52.040
like a uber racist asshole, which, because you have to experience it, but hopefully you
01:03:57.720
can experience it without getting, you know, several shanks through the heart.
01:04:00.600
Well, hold on. I got to, I got to finish this story. I'm almost done. By the way, I did
01:04:03.620
that once where I didn't cross the street. I literally took a nap on the concrete because
01:04:08.360
My cousin walked the land, Nick. You guys, everyone knows walked the land, Nick. He lived,
01:04:12.580
he lived in Coney Island with me. He didn't cross the street either. They pistol whipped
01:04:16.260
him in the back of the head. The dude had like brain trauma, ended up in the hospital. They
01:04:19.900
shipped them off to Florida. I didn't see him for years and years and years. And I, I think
01:04:23.460
he's had some lingering issues from, but it's, again, it's just like, I don't know what to
01:04:29.280
Check this out. I go to Twitter and I just say, because my mother, she had that issue. We, you
01:04:33.980
know, we came from a rough neighborhood in New Jersey. I had the same issue. Now my son is
01:04:37.820
having that issue. So I go to Twitter and I say the exact story that I just told you.
01:04:42.540
Now, initially what happens is countless people. I didn't know this was going to resonate with
01:04:47.100
people on this level. I had no idea. You know how weird it is whenever something goes like
01:04:50.000
crazy, crazy viral. This went 18 million views, right? And initially it's all these people
01:04:56.400
who are telling me the same story, dude. This happened to me. This happened to my daughter.
01:05:02.000
This happens to my grandchildren. I have grandparents in the comments section telling me how
01:05:07.780
sad it is that their grandson comes to them and cries about what's going on at school
01:05:11.780
and it's the same perpetrators, right? And so initially this is the conversation that's
01:05:15.720
happening. It gets to black Twitter. Black Twitter decides immediately that I've lied and
01:05:21.900
that I'm stoking racial flames. And their solution to this is to threaten me with death. They send
01:05:28.540
me videos and pictures of mangled, dismembered white children. This is what my DMs get filled
01:05:34.720
with. Countless death threats and countless pictures of dismembered babies, white babies.
01:05:40.600
They then dox me. They then call CPS on me and I get called into the school by the sheriff's office.
01:05:47.260
I mean, so if you should, this is what this father is afraid of, by the way. And I'm not saying that
01:05:52.820
I empathize with what he's doing, but this is what he's afraid of. The culture is stacked up in such a
01:05:57.920
way that it's fucking threatening you. Go ahead. Say it, bitch. Say it and watch what happens.
01:06:02.480
Yeah. That's what we're all subjected to. Go ahead. Raise money. It's coming your way.
01:06:06.900
Raise money for some Canadian truckers. You're out. But it's like raise, raise $200,000 for somebody
01:06:12.680
who stabbed someone in the heart. And then the father's like, I hope he raises more money so
01:06:16.220
that the defense is harder. It's like, are you out of your fucking mind? And then all that stuff,
01:06:20.480
all that stuff. And we're supposed to care about the Houthis, Clint.
01:06:25.420
No, I'm supposed to give a fuck about the Houthis.
01:06:28.060
They do make good music though, dude. Not the Houthis, the blacks.
01:06:30.620
Oh, yeah. Well, look, I've watched the, you know, Maj Touré has been fighting this,
01:06:39.060
fighting the good fight for the past week on this issue. And I think that the obvious truth is that
01:06:44.380
like there are proclivities that certain races have. And when it, like his counter was, he's like,
01:06:52.000
well, if I was a goofy, I'd fucking, I'd point out that, you know, 80% of pedophiles are white men.
01:06:56.980
And it's like, all right. Yeah. But like, if you're being honest about it, you probably wouldn't
01:07:01.700
want a white man to be your, you know, babysit your kids. You know, like,
01:07:05.480
Let me tell you why that's bullshit though. Because like, yo, you walk through the courtyards in the
01:07:09.320
hood there that I'm talking about, and you just take a peek and these girls are 12, 13. And the
01:07:14.020
guys that they're fucking with 18, 21, 40, it's, it is rampant. It's just underreported.
01:07:22.000
Because they don't like the parents don't give a fuck. Like I'm, man, I'm telling you, Clint,
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I have been in these places. Yeah. Like constantly my entire life. And it's like, yo,
01:07:31.280
so yeah, you could talk about the, the white pedophiles all you want, but yeah, dude, it's
01:07:36.000
going on. They just don't call it that. They call it something different. I don't know.
01:07:38.820
Sure. Yeah. And it, and it probably is underreported. I'm not, I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying
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like maybe the, maybe the takeaway is you just don't want, you know, men around your kids. Like
01:07:50.100
just, you know, like the vast majority of men, not pedophiles would never hurt your kids. They'd
01:07:54.780
probably kill a pedophile if they fucking encountered it. But the majority of pedophiles
01:07:59.520
are going to be men. So you just got to fucking keep them away from your, your children. And I
01:08:03.060
think that the unfortunate reality is like a lot of people having the same conversation when it comes
01:08:06.760
to violence in the black community. And they're saying, well, I would just rather not be around it.
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Um, and I, the reason I wanted to talk about this is because the, uh, there was this video
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I don't know. Some, some fast food joint. I can't remember what, what, uh, chain it was,
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but it's the entire thing is walled off with bulletproof glass.
01:09:01.020
Oh yeah. The entire thing. Yeah. I had commented on that because man, I'm telling you in the
01:09:06.480
nineties, early two thousands, the KFC, it's not even a KFC. It was like a, one of those
01:09:11.940
bootleg KFC joints run by a, an Arab dude. Same shit. It's been like that for years. You
01:09:17.040
go to a liquor store, uh, you go to a convenience store, you go to a fucking, yeah, Dunkin' Donuts.
01:09:21.180
Some of them have that in the hood. The last time I was in New York, the, the Slurpee
01:09:25.140
machine at the seven 11 was locked up for what? I can't imagine a reason. I, well, it's because
01:09:32.120
I, well, I'll tell you the reason is a lot of people just steal a ton of Slurpees. Uh, but
01:09:36.520
so anyways, the, the takeaway I had from this video and I, I felt bad for the guy. He's this
01:09:41.500
black guy who's videoing it. And he's like, he's like, well, they treat us like fucking animals.
01:09:44.720
Like, and, and I'm like, I get it. Like if you're, if you're a peaceful person who purchases
01:09:49.860
every item and, and you know, you grew up in the hood, but you're a good guy, upstanding
01:09:54.540
citizen, like it sucks for you. Like I get that, but you also, but you also have to be honest
01:10:00.300
with yourself that the reason you live in these conditions is because the people that look like
01:10:05.040
you that live in that same town abuse the fuck out of all of these businesses. And they're now
01:10:10.740
like, you'd think that these businesses want to invest probably tens of thousands of dollars
01:10:15.420
into fucking bulletproof glass around the entire bitch. Like, no, they don't. So they're doing it
01:10:20.300
for a reason. So if you want to, if you want to just like lament your, your living conditions and
01:10:25.540
be like, oh, they're treating me like an animal. Well, you have to, you have to deal with the fact
01:10:29.080
that there's a reason this is happening. And I think that that's the problem is that we can't ever
01:10:33.440
have that conversation without it just being, uh, you're a racist, you're a bigot, you're this,
01:10:36.920
you're that it's like, well, and that's kind of what Matt Walsh is attempting to do, but he's
01:10:40.740
just doing it in such an over the top provocative way that I don't think that it's actually
01:10:44.220
productive. I think it's, it, it ultimately makes this conversation even more challenging.
01:10:48.920
Well, I tried to have that conversation and it didn't work when I was trying to do it.
01:10:53.040
It's, it's very much like the Jewish stuff that we always talk about. There's like this collective,
01:10:57.420
collective nature of, and I understand where Maj is coming from. Like he had, you have to defend
01:11:01.600
this position because he is, uh, the black libertarian. So he has this identity. You have to defend this
01:11:07.620
identity, but the truth of the matter is man, like after Sandy, once the water came down hundreds,
01:11:13.400
I mean like almost all of them, people, people I knew like that were like halfway decent people,
01:11:17.420
they're looting the banks, they're looting the stores and the pharmacies. And it's like,
01:11:21.840
you live here, you live, they brought, they just busted the windows out of the banks. You're not
01:11:25.940
getting into the vault, but they just did it just to do it. And it's like, I don't know,
01:11:29.960
like something happens when it's like, it's a lot of them doing something. They just join in.
01:11:34.020
And I've been, I've been, I've been persecuted by it too. I went to Lincoln high school and it's just
01:11:38.860
like, this is the first high school that had metal detectors in it. And when,
01:11:43.400
somebody gets singled out or whatever, it's like, it's like feeding, it's a feeding frenzy.
01:11:47.660
So if there are like a couple that have abstained, most of them are like around chanting or doing
01:11:53.620
like, like beats on lunch tables to like you getting beat up or yeah, it's crazy. It is
01:12:00.000
fucking crazy. And I, I like, I'm being told to not, to not like address it or notice it.
01:12:05.520
You know what a good example is, is when California passed that law where anything underneath a thousand
01:12:10.420
dollars isn't a crime or I don't know, I'm just talking out of my ass here. I don't know the,
01:12:15.000
the ins and outs of it, but I know that that gave, this is fascinating. Josie says statistically 60%
01:12:19.380
of black girls experience sexual assault before they turn 18. Uh, as in contrast to the 25% of
01:12:25.980
white girls, it's under reporting. Right. Right. So obviously very prolific, uh, considering the
01:12:30.460
girls are underage. Josie with a fucking sledgehammer. God. Yeah, dude. It's a, and that's what,
01:12:35.040
that's what you don't want to say. Right. When they go, well, what about white people doing all
01:12:38.740
the pedophilia shit? You don't want to look them in the eyes and say, you don't take care of your
01:12:42.740
kids. So you don't report it. Oh, but it seems statistically speaking, that would be the case.
01:12:47.720
Oh man, this, this episode is going to, no dude, but this is not, this episode won't be banned,
01:12:52.400
but this'll, this'll inflame a lot of people. What do you want me to tell you? This is dangerous.
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It's like, we're just, I'm just telling you what we've seen. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's dangerous.
01:13:00.140
But like, those are also statistics. Like it's sorry. You know, it, I think like my position
01:13:07.080
has always been that I don't want to apply. Like I, at the end of the day, I really am an
01:13:11.320
individualist. Like I know that there are people of all walks of life that are fucking great people.
01:13:16.200
So I don't want to judge you based off of how you look. Yeah. But at the same time, I'm not going to
01:13:21.320
lie. I'm not going to lie about the fact that there are a proclivity for certain activities from
01:13:27.900
people that look like you. Like, I have to be honest about that. And so, but, but like, can we,
01:13:33.080
can, can I have, can I have both of those thoughts without being pilloried? And it's like, no, you,
01:13:38.920
you can't really like, you can't, you can't, you can't actually have nuance on this. You have to be
01:13:43.540
like, oh, they're all, we're all equal and we're all the same. And then like Clint, I've tried my best
01:13:47.820
too. It's, and it's, it's not even about like, like taking individuals. Cause like I'm the godfather to
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what my, my friend is black. I'm the godfather to his kid. But when, when he's around a group
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I don't even recognize it, man. I'm like, yo, am I safe here? I swear to God. And this shit happens
01:14:31.580
all the time. It's like, yo, they'll switch on you in a second. Cause you're not like them. That's
01:14:34.660
just a simple, simple fact. Like, like I'm not like you and we can have a conversation one-on-one,
01:14:39.060
but once it's like, there's like, like a bunch, there becomes this collectivism and it's like,
01:14:43.300
it transforms into something else. It's a different culture that honestly, I don't even think
01:14:47.620
should be welcome in the United States of America. It's wild. It's a whole different,
01:14:51.940
it's a different subsect. Now we're really in trouble, but I'm not trying to stop you. Yeah,
01:14:56.380
go ahead. It's a different subsect of America. Like you're not behaving. Like I, I was, I was
01:15:01.740
like ridiculed because I'm a Spanish guy and they're like, you talk too white. And I'm like,
01:15:05.940
well, I'm not going to fucking dumb down how I talk. I'm going to say what I mean. And I'm going
01:15:09.200
to say it clearly. Cause this is how I was taught to speak English. And Oh, I'm sorry. Did I
01:15:13.140
enunciate bitch? Yeah. And my, my accent is horrible. I have a horrible New York accent,
01:15:19.480
but I still say words correctly. And I still say like, you know, the words that I mean to
01:15:23.940
the specific meanings and I'm not going to use your slang unless I'm being sarcastic or I think
01:15:29.020
it's hilarious. And yeah, I was pilloried for that. So I was like, what do you, I don't know.
01:15:33.020
It's like, these are two different societies that are butted up against each other. Nobody wants to
01:15:37.100
say anything. And they're like, well, coexist. Go ahead, Clint. I just want to say, and the,
01:15:44.020
the real problem, and I think this is what's happening as a reaction to this is that because
01:15:48.880
as you described, like, yeah, you're, you're the godfather. This is the perfect time to plug
01:15:53.300
a little bit like that. No, it's not. Um, as you're saying, like, you're the godfather to a black,
01:15:58.480
you know, kid and you're, you have a good friend who's a black guy. It's like, but I got a lot of
01:16:03.720
friends too. Like I grew up in it. So it was like, no, of course, of course. But, but the,
01:16:08.860
the issue is like what you're describing is true. That when a lot of black people are around other
01:16:13.060
black people, there is, there is a collective identity that they take on that white people
01:16:17.660
usually don't, or at least not to the, not to the like overt levels that the black community
01:16:22.960
tends to. The caricature levels. Yeah. So I think that, that what's happening as a consequence of
01:16:28.820
this, that like, there hasn't been a demand on black people or the minority community to,
01:16:33.960
to do what white people have done. And like the only, the only standard has been placed on the
01:16:40.000
white community that like everybody's equal and, and we're all the same. And we're just anybody that
01:16:44.820
comes into your fucking community, you welcome them. It's like, if you go, if you're a white dude
01:16:48.600
and you move into an all black community, do you think that they're going to fucking be cool with
01:16:51.900
you? Like, no, like for the most part, baseball bat. Yeah. They're like, they're like,
01:16:56.640
here comes the fucking, you know, white oppressor, you know, it's like, so, but hold on with you.
01:17:01.340
They just be like, yeah, but you whitey though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Right. Right. Right.
01:17:06.160
Right. And, and, and there's, there's, I mean, there's similar activity if you're a black dude
01:17:09.140
moving into white community. So I'm not saying that either, but, but I'm just saying, I'm just
01:17:13.520
saying like, because it has not been an equal standard, like you have not expected the same
01:17:19.240
from minorities as you have from white people. Now what you're seeing is the backlash. Now you're
01:17:24.100
seeing people that go like, no, I am going to take on white identity and I am going to
01:17:29.080
look after my own because that has been your mantra and your mentality and an overt one and
01:17:34.040
an unabashed, unashamed one for the longest time. I mean, Killer Mike, who one of my favorite
01:17:39.920
rappers, he goes on Bill Maher. He talks about politics all the time and he's, he openly talks
01:17:44.460
about, we need to have black wall street. We need to have a community filled with all black
01:17:48.900
businesses. And I'm like, I'm applauding. Like I'm, I don't, I'm not hating on it at all,
01:17:52.620
but I'm just saying if a white dude said that you'd be like, fuck this guy. And he certainly
01:17:57.700
wouldn't be on fucking Bill Maher show. And if he were, it would be to be screamed at
01:18:01.860
because he's such a racist piece of shit. But Killer Mike gets up there and all of the
01:18:05.720
white people in the audience standing ovation, you know, they fucking love what he has to
01:18:10.240
say. So I'm just saying, because there are two standards, you're going to create conflict
01:18:15.520
and you're going to create white nationalism. Like it had, it has to be an equal standard
01:18:22.300
for everybody. And if it's not, you're going to have backlash. And what we're witnessing
01:18:27.900
It goes further than that too, though. It's not just this like double standard thing. It's
01:18:31.400
also the whiteness, especially white males have been pretty much the targeted group when
01:18:37.520
it comes to being convinced that they themselves are just inherently toxic, inherently evil.
01:18:45.320
And they're the ones that have also been punished by the DEI.
01:18:48.300
Exactly. So that's one element of it, right? We're the conquerors. We're the racist. We're
01:18:52.320
the evil people. Everything that ever happens on the planet that's bad for native people or
01:18:56.680
anything is always at the behest of us. But the other thing that they've done too is this,
01:19:01.320
and I know we weren't going to talk about the Jews, but the model is the same. And that model
01:19:05.800
is a victimhood class, right? So you have this victimhood class that identifies with their
01:19:12.460
victimhood. But then, of course, if you should say anything about them, you are the perpetrator
01:19:16.760
and you're taking advantage of this victimhood class. So being a victim not only galvanizes
01:19:21.780
them to each other, but it also makes it so that if you launch any accusations or even just
01:19:26.360
criticism, even just like statistically backed criticism to even have the conversation, you're
01:19:32.200
immediately a piece of shit. And the other thing that they have in common is the same way
01:19:36.580
you couldn't talk about the Jews for the longest time until recently, you also couldn't talk
01:19:40.460
about the blacks. And so you're not allowed to talk about them. If you do talk about them,
01:19:45.840
you're an evil piece of shit. And also you are starting from a lesser point to them because
01:19:50.160
whiteness is evil. It's toxic. It's that of the conqueror. And so the whole dynamic, you
01:19:55.620
know, once again, I'm forced to ask, is this a purposeful pressure cooker situation? You subvert
01:20:01.480
the conversation. You get the, you know, one group to adhere to victimhood. You get the
01:20:07.800
other group to adhere to conqueror. You know what I mean? That's become the identities of
01:20:12.120
white people and the identities of black people.
01:20:14.400
This happened in the Roman empire. This is what they, I mean, this actually was, is what
01:20:17.620
would, this is what happened to the Jews. They have this collective identity. So the Roman
01:20:21.900
empire had them come in, they kind of mix them up. So that way they would be taken into their
01:20:27.280
society and things would be smoother. But this is just the opposite. This is like taking in
01:20:31.600
a, and you know, black people, we could talk about them, but this is every single, every
01:20:36.420
single demographic that we've led into America or that, that has come into America. We've
01:20:40.480
created these like subsections and ghettos and we've told them stay exactly how, how you
01:20:45.360
are. You're perfect. Don't worry about assimilation. And we can talk about assimilation being an
01:20:50.340
issue as well, because when you have everybody that's American and we're like, hoorah, then
01:20:54.340
we can get something like the Iraq war, 2000s America, which is not good either. So there's
01:20:58.480
a fine line, but I think it's much worse when you have 40 different cultures in America
01:21:03.940
and none of them want to embrace one of the place where they're at. So everyone's doing
01:21:10.480
their own thing and being told that you're great. At the same time, the larger culture,
01:21:14.540
which they came into, you have to punish them. So that way they have like, by punishing
01:21:18.840
them or threatening them, it allows these other cultures to subsist and grow and become emboldened
01:21:24.280
where they're at. And now we have this issue and it's everywhere you turn. It's every single
01:21:29.700
culture. You're not allowed to really criticize any culture. None of them are eager to assimilate
01:21:34.900
or become American at all. They fly their own flags. You can see Mexican flag, Puerto Rican flag,
01:21:39.240
Indian flag, whatever. They're their own thing in America. So it's like, well, what is this place
01:21:43.920
then? None of them are eager to assimilate, but they are eager to adhere to that identity that our
01:21:50.240
culture gives them. Our culture, it's been thrust upon us. It's been manufactured. But
01:21:53.780
that culture says like, hey, you fit right here into this like cute little victim class and you get
01:21:58.440
all kinds of perks for associating yourself with that. So they don't want to assimilate to whatever
01:22:02.780
Western culture is, but they'll happily assimilate to victimhood culture. Well, I think just to piggyback
01:22:08.880
off of your earlier point, David, like I think that the, as I said earlier, like the double standard
01:22:14.260
creates backlash. So many in the Jewish community in America, they are the top proponents of mass
01:22:21.620
migration and open borders, but simultaneously they have incredible, you know, dual loyalties
01:22:26.920
and allegiance to Israel. And Israel has the, probably the strongest borders in the world next
01:22:32.660
to North Korea, you know? And it's like, it's like, well, so what is your principle here? It's like,
01:22:39.720
like defend your own, but fuck you. Is that, is that kind of what you're saying to me? Because
01:22:45.160
if that's what you're saying, well then fuck you too. You know, that, that's kind of, that's how
01:22:48.600
people start to react. But, um, but I was listening to Elijah Schaefer when he made his appearance on
01:22:54.020
Timcast and he was talking about this statistic or this study that showed that, uh, white people are
01:22:58.560
the only, uh, ethnic group without group preference. So any other ethnic group that's pulled will display
01:23:05.360
in-group preference. It just simply means they prefer their own people, but white people were the only
01:23:09.520
ones who would espouse out-group preference. And I don't even think that that's true, but I think
01:23:14.660
the same way that father was on that, you know, stage at that podium, whatever, he's having that
01:23:19.900
discussion in front of this press and he's saying, um, above, you know, out of all the things he could
01:23:25.040
be talking about, this is not a racial thing. This isn't racist. This has nothing to do with the race
01:23:29.200
war. It's like that thing that compels you to say that even at your most dire moment where your son
01:23:34.440
has died is the same thing that compels people to espouse. I don't think they really believe it,
01:23:39.660
but they do say it. And that's a multicultural, this is where, this is where you and I part ways.
01:23:45.360
I think they absolutely believe it. I think it's disheartening. I don't want to believe that.
01:23:49.640
Well, yeah, I would prefer not to either, but like, I don't think that that, like, that is his
01:23:55.400
programming, you know, like he's, he's already in a point of like probably fight or flight, you know,
01:24:00.740
for the past 48 hours. So it's all, it's all autopilot. Exactly. Right. So whatever he's
01:24:06.240
saying during that period is just the script that runs in his brain automatically without any actual
01:24:11.040
rational thought. Um, because if you're having rational thought, your son was just killed
01:24:15.340
brutally by a black kid and you're not, you're not thinking rationally, but if you, if you are
01:24:21.260
thinking rationally, you're like, fuck that kid. Like that's, that's the only thought. That's the only
01:24:25.620
thought you would have. Like, let's just be honest. If you're thinking rationally, you're like,
01:24:29.040
I want that kid in prison or worse. Like that's the only rational thought you have,
01:24:33.720
but he doesn't have that thought because his script, his, his programming is so deep that he
01:24:38.560
cannot, he can only think one thing, which is let's focus. Everybody's the same. I have compassion
01:24:43.620
for him. He's probably a victim. Do you know what kind of conditions he probably was raised in? He
01:24:48.360
was impoverished, blah, blah, blah. You know, that type of shit. But the truth is, the truth, hold on.
01:24:52.040
The truth is this kid fucking grew up in the neighborhood of your own son. Yeah. So, so what are you
01:24:56.880
talking about? Like, it's not some fucking, you know, backwoods hood or something like that.
01:25:01.560
It's, it's just, it's, it's sad. I fear that you're correct, uh, that it is, but I want to
01:25:06.220
address this. This is from anti-speciesists. She said, cause you know how chat GPT will kind of tell
01:25:10.080
you what you want to hear. It also has a left-leaning bias because that's probably the majority of the
01:25:14.380
conversation on Twitter, or at least was, uh, chat GPT said this about why black girls don't report
01:25:19.400
their child sexual abuse. Black girls often don't report sexual abuse due to the fear of harming
01:25:24.980
black men and how society views them. And you know what is so fucked about that? That is a hundred
01:25:31.840
percent a talking point that I could see being leveraged in this greater conversation. But that's
01:25:36.340
not, that's not even true though. They don't, they don't do it because I don't think it's true at all.
01:25:40.280
But I mean, you can hear that talking point. It would be espoused. They actually, in the, in the
01:25:44.260
culture, it's, it's not that it's enjoyed, but it's like a, like a status. Yeah. They're like, yeah,
01:25:49.220
yeah. I was like, I fucked that nigga. It's like, that's what they, they think that that's cool.
01:25:53.140
They're selling it's celebrated in their culture. So it's not like they don't care if they get them
01:25:56.900
in trouble. As a matter of fact, they might end up killing each other. Also, it's almost a natural
01:26:01.160
product when your father's absent, right? Like you have young girls whose father's absent,
01:26:05.200
they're longing for some connection to an older man. And so that's very, that's very common across
01:26:10.420
all, all cultures. Like if you, if your father is not in the home, like girls in that condition,
01:26:15.480
white girls too, um, they end up, you know, have having sex much younger and getting pregnant much
01:26:20.980
younger, having kids much younger. So yeah, having sex with older men. And for the, for the, for the
01:26:24.600
boys, it's violence and prison time, which are, or death. Yeah. I mean, speaking of a white girls
01:26:31.600
having sex with older men, I got into a little bit of a conflict with Phil Labonte this week.
01:26:36.640
Oh yeah. What was that all about? He's like my favorite. I love, I love how top frames these
01:26:41.260
things. It's like, I fired a vicious shot at Phil Labonte is what you, how it ought to be started,
01:26:46.440
but go ahead. I feel like I didn't fire a vicious shot at him. I feel like I only responded in
01:26:50.760
kind, which he deserved. I didn't see what he said. Cause it was deleted. Well, we have to go
01:26:54.200
back a couple of months to what he said when we spoke with Dave Smith on our show. Oh, you're
01:26:57.900
right. I take it back. He, he did fire the first shot. Go ahead. Yeah, he did. A hundred percent.
01:27:02.100
He did. A hundred percent. He did. Um, he, uh, he called our show a show, a C-list show is correct.
01:27:07.780
But there's no reason, there was no reason to do that. Like he's got a big platform and he's doing
01:27:11.440
his thing with his music. Just, can I say with the, for the audience, cause they don't know what the
01:27:15.500
hell happened back when we were doing, uh, Nephilim death squad and we were going to have Dave Smith on,
01:27:20.400
um, and, and Clint was on that show as well. Uh, Dave Smith announced that he was going to be on
01:27:25.580
this up and coming show. I mean, you know, we were pretty new in the grand scheme of things.
01:27:28.700
Shout out to Dave Smith too, for like a very cool giving us his time. Yes. Shouldn't have done it.
01:27:34.160
Correct. And, uh, yeah. And then even tweeting about it. Right. So what, what Phil, I thought it
01:27:38.740
was a great conversation too. It was a great conversation. I wish we could revisit it. Like I had issues with
01:27:43.380
my roadcaster where I was like getting stomped on a little bit. And I feel like we circled some points
01:27:48.400
that we should have moved on from and could have taken the car, but whatever that's, I'm just
01:27:52.360
critical of, well, no, I mean, still though, you know, grateful for his time. Uh, but what Phil
01:27:58.820
did that you could say a lot of things, you can call me a faggot and a retard and dunk on me all
01:28:02.900
day long, but what you can't do is get in the way of something that I am pouring blood, sweat,
01:28:08.980
and tears into. I'm trying to build something here. And what Phil Labonte does is he gets in front of it.
01:28:13.260
When he sees Dave Smith tweet that he's going to be on this show, he goes, Hey, isn't that like
01:28:18.320
early career shit? That's what he said. He said, isn't that early career shit? Meaning in other
01:28:23.420
words, uh, this, you don't have to be on this show. You don't know these people. They're not
01:28:26.920
significant. They're not special. You're above that. This is doing nothing for you, Dave Smith.
01:28:30.760
Why are you doing that? Here's the omission in, in that statement from him because, and why I know
01:28:35.660
it comes up as pure hate. Number one, he unfollowed me after I was like, why'd you do that?
01:28:41.180
He unfollowed me. Number two, hasn't blocked me. So you're telling me that you understand I am
01:28:47.380
significant in this, uh, in whatever we're doing here, whatever I'm doing here, but you still want
01:28:53.500
to stand in the way and talk shit. So when I see you do dumb shit, I'm going to talk shit as well.
01:28:57.520
So let's pull up the fucking picture. And I wish I could read you guys what he posted originally,
01:29:03.240
but he ran from his original statement. It was a video of Dave Smith that was unfairly clipped from
01:29:08.100
his Rogan appearance. And he was talking about Churchill. And he was talking about that guy,
01:29:11.860
Daryl Cooper saying that Churchill might've been worse than Hitler, whatever. It was opinion is
01:29:17.700
neither here nor there. And it was also clipped unfairly because Dave went on for another two
01:29:21.880
minutes to explain like, yeah, but Churchill and Hitler both kind of suck anyway. It's like,
01:29:26.060
this is like low level talking point shit. But if you want to call Dave Smith, the Nazi,
01:29:29.600
or if you want to defend Israel at all costs, you'll jump all over it. And that's what Phil did.
01:29:34.920
He jumped all over it. And Dave is basically like, wow, dude, like you kidding me? Like
01:29:39.200
he says, I'll just read it. Cause, uh, most people haven't seen this, I'm sure. So Dave responds to
01:29:44.960
this out of context clip and Phil's comment. And he says, wow, great insight, Phil. Maybe watch the
01:29:49.020
whole clip and see how intentionally dishonest this guy is being. Uh, you are on the level of the
01:29:53.360
corporate media reporting on the very fine people comment right now. And then I just replied,
01:29:58.840
you've sat across from Phil how many times and still haven't noticed how useless of a thinker he is.
01:30:03.360
Um, scroll, scroll down. You gotta weigh with words, dude. Phil responds. Hey, Tom, go fuck
01:30:09.540
yourself. Very funny. Hilarious. I mean, there's really no other response. You should have just
01:30:14.580
ignored me. Uh, but then, you know, then we have to go back to the fact that you deleted your original
01:30:19.080
comment and had to backtrack it. Cause you realize that, oh shit, I'm on Tim's show. And Dave is a
01:30:23.800
big guest that actually brings in views. So I better not sink that boat there. I just thought it was
01:30:29.800
like, it's just completely disingenuous, man. Like don't, don't, uh, don't frame Dave Smith's
01:30:35.640
narratives in this way, the way you did when you know the guy you've sat down across from him and
01:30:40.980
you've spoken with him. Like, what is your agenda here? I feel like it's fair for me to ask if you
01:30:45.580
know somebody personally, and then you go to this link to misconstrue what they're saying to your
01:30:50.760
audience of how many people, 200,000, 200,000 followers on Twitter. I feel like either you're stupid
01:30:57.300
or you're trying to, it was like malicious. And I don't appreciate that as somebody who's very
01:31:03.260
malicious at Dave Smith. I don't appreciate you being malicious towards Dave Smith when it's
01:31:08.000
unfounded like this. You know what I think it is. I think that he, he was just stupid. He was
01:31:12.620
simply wrong. He watched the clip. He thought it was crazy. He didn't watch the full context. And
01:31:16.600
the correct response in that situation is fuck, I'm a retard and totally did exactly what you just
01:31:22.740
accused me of my fucking bad. And then you leave that shit on there, by the way, you leave what
01:31:27.460
you said and you, you have that hang out there on the internet. See, I don't, I don't agree with
01:31:31.180
that. I think deleting it is totally fair. And he did follow up with a tweet saying I've deleted a
01:31:36.280
post because, uh, I realized that it was taken out of context, but he did not apologize to Dave.
01:31:40.600
He did not like actually correct the record. So, um, you know, I'm the type that like, if you're my
01:31:46.000
friend, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. And I'm going to absolutely make sure that I
01:31:51.520
have this right before I post anything. So I think it was very, it was very haphazard. Like,
01:31:56.140
I don't, I don't understand how you fall for that. Um, I, I'll just be honest and I'm, I'm good
01:32:02.800
friends with Phil. I think that the truth is, is that Phil does have some of this, uh, this like
01:32:10.240
ride or die mentality when it comes to the historical narratives of war. And you see it with Israel
01:32:14.800
Palestine too. Like he, he is very adamantly opposed to any heterodox view of the history of the
01:32:21.320
war between Israel and Palestine. Like he doesn't, he doesn't want to hear it. Uh, when it comes to
01:32:26.160
World War II, he doesn't want to hear it. The fact that Dave and, and Martyr May, Daryl Cooper and
01:32:30.640
others are, are popularizing these concepts that challenge these kinds of foundational myths of
01:32:36.000
America. He doesn't like it. Um, it's, it's weird because he is a libertarian or he doesn't really
01:32:41.380
describe himself that way, but he's got a lot of libertarian instincts. But one of the libertarian
01:32:45.200
instincts he does not hold is he does not challenge historical narratives of war, which is bizarre
01:32:50.580
because every good libertarian I know is very red pilled when it comes to war propaganda because
01:32:56.240
we all live through it with the fucking WMD hoax and everything else. And I could go on and on on
01:33:01.200
other hoaxes that led us into wars, but, um, I think it's just fascinating and it shows a blind spot
01:33:06.400
in his worldview. And I would, I would talk to him about this. This is why I feel comfortable saying it
01:33:11.000
here because he's a friend of mine, but I think that he has a blind spot when it comes to these things
01:33:15.460
because it challenges kind of a foundational premise by which he establishes his worldview,
01:33:21.120
which is that America is good. That despite the fact that maybe he doesn't want as much war as
01:33:26.800
we've participated in, he still wants to feel good about our interventions in the rest of the world
01:33:31.980
and that we're doing it for the benefit of the people, that type of mentality. Um, so sorry for the,
01:33:36.540
the, uh, uh, psychological analysis, but that's what I think. No, look that's, and that's fair
01:33:43.060
though. Like this is a guy that, you know, and you're giving him your, your, uh, psychoanalysis
01:33:48.400
or at least your interpretation of what his worldview is. And I would agree with what you're
01:33:52.200
saying. I think that there's a bit of ego. And when you, when you have to take apart, like some of
01:33:57.820
these building blocks that, uh, would be taken apart by certain narratives that Dave and Daryl are
01:34:02.840
talking about your whole house of cars could come crashing down. And with somebody that has an ego
01:34:07.740
like that, and that's built up all of these, you know, built up the sandcastle on possibly a narrative
01:34:13.200
that's not true. It's probably hard, hard for him, you know, that's a death. And yeah, I would just say,
01:34:18.860
don't take it so seriously, man. You didn't do it. Yeah. Well, and I, the reason I know this is
01:34:24.160
because I've, I've done the show with him a bunch of times. And you know, when I talk about this stuff
01:34:27.900
too, it, I always sense that he's just like, uh, you're crazy, you know? And, um, which is very,
01:34:34.560
it's just, as I said earlier, it's very odd because amongst libertarians, this is very common
01:34:38.760
to challenge these, you know, foundational myths about military, uh, you know, empire building.
01:34:43.920
It's like, yeah, this has all been to the detriment of the American people and to the people of the
01:34:47.700
world, like quite evidently. Um, so I don't know. I just think it's a, it's interesting, but you,
01:34:53.800
like, you have to be better. Like when you're dealing with a guy who's an obvious ally,
01:34:59.100
Dave is an obvious ally to someone like Phil. You just, you just cannot fuck up in that way.
01:35:03.940
Like I've had, I've had fuck ups in the past, but it's always been fuck ups against people that I
01:35:07.940
don't like, you know? So I'm being sloppy because I'm like, fuck these people. Even if I'm wrong,
01:35:12.520
they're still scumbags. So like, who really cares? It feels good. Well, no, I don't mean it like that,
01:35:18.400
but I just mean like, I'm still right to be dunking on this person. Like Dave is a fucking,
01:35:22.800
like, he's your guy. You have to make sure that you have this right. And, and even if you are
01:35:28.380
right, it's still like, why are you taking a shot at Dave, man? Like why, like you better be,
01:35:34.180
you must be really upset about what he has to say here. And I think that kind of lends credence
01:35:38.280
to my thesis that like, yeah, he really doesn't like the fact that Dave is challenging the world
01:35:43.240
war two myth. He hates it because that's the only reason you take a shot publicly at Dave,
01:35:48.140
like that. You have to be really upset about that. So I think that's, uh, I, I took a shot at him.
01:35:54.680
Uh, also at Dave, this is just cause I'm fair, you know, I was like, we're going to defend Dave.
01:35:58.980
But then I think that I thought he was wrong here. Turns out that I may have been, uh, I may have fell
01:36:03.960
for the same trap as, as this retard. Uh, but somebody, I, it was a Christian Malzarta. He's a,
01:36:11.020
he's like a Mises caucus guy, uh, some kind of designer, good dude. He clipped Dave talking on
01:36:15.960
part of the problem about, uh, tariffs, but apparently this was a section where he was
01:36:20.440
talking about the defense of the MAGA people, the defense that they have of tariffs, where it's
01:36:25.580
like, you know, it can do no wrong. That wasn't really inserted in the clip. But what I did see
01:36:30.140
was Dave basically like, it seemed like, I was like, are you like obfuscating, like, are you
01:36:35.680
obfuscating the idea that this is a, this is possibly a negotiation tactic? Because if you
01:36:40.980
are, I'm like, this is a, that's a little dishonest. And then I'm like, are you playing
01:36:44.300
to you at like a libertarian base? Cause I'm like, that's just the, that's the worst thing
01:36:47.640
that, in my opinion, it's the worst thing you can do when there is like clear and evident
01:36:51.720
truth out there. Like just tell the truth. So I didn't watch the whole episode, but apparently
01:36:55.520
that part was addressed previously before that statement. And then he went and he made that
01:37:00.240
argument. Well, if this is an argument just against the MAGA base that is saying tariffs
01:37:05.120
are a good in and of itself then, and I'm like, okay, then I understand your argument.
01:37:09.880
So sorry for not watching your show. It's probably paywalled as well, but yeah, I will apologize
01:37:14.880
on that. But I wasn't, I also didn't call him like whatever Phil called him. It wasn't malicious.
01:37:18.960
I was just like, Hey, wait a second. Like, you know, I think, you know, that this is a negotiation
01:37:24.000
time and I'm right. He did know. And Tom was actually chimed in. He was pretty upset about
01:37:28.480
it, but for other reasons, which I'm not really sure about.
01:37:31.200
Yeah. Well, I mean, this is the unfortunate reality and I've, I've grown quite a
01:37:34.960
accustomed to this because I've been dragged through the mud mercilessly for out of context
01:37:39.360
clips of me nodding as someone on my show said something I don't even agree with. So,
01:37:43.280
um, yeah, I'm used to it. It's, it's very unfair. Uh, it's just, it comes with the territory.
01:37:49.280
I just really don't like it when it's done to me by friendlies, you know, then I'm like,
01:37:53.920
then I have to totally reassess like what you're about. Cause like I would never do that to a friendly.
01:38:00.080
Um, so I, I don't know. It's, uh, it's kind of in the weeds. So we'll, yeah,
01:38:04.560
I was just saying they're a negotiation tactic. This is fairly simple to see if you're not being
01:38:08.080
disingenuous to appease your base. So I'm kind of like asking a question, like, what are you doing
01:38:11.680
here, man? Cause that was weird. Like, I know, you know, what Dave knows, you know, he's very smart
01:38:16.240
guy. So I'm like, there's no way that he just did that. And he didn't. So thank God,
01:38:21.280
again, very consistent dude. The only thing he's missed on is I think Kanye West, but that's like,
01:38:25.360
that's a weird one too. Um, well, I think, I think that that verges into personal territory
01:38:32.160
for Dave because he's Jewish. Um, and I think it makes it really hard for him to look at this
01:38:37.520
in a, you know, an unpersonalized way. And I don't blame him. Like no matter how much we all try,
01:38:43.200
there is a level of like, like even with the case of the, the, you know, the white kid getting stabbed
01:38:48.960
by the black kid, like I can't help, but relate more to the white kid. Like I can't just being honest,
01:38:54.640
like I, I immediately read that story and I'm a little bit more upset because it was a white kid.
01:38:59.680
Sorry. Like I'm just, I think that's how everybody actually deals with these things.
01:39:03.520
Are you showing in-group preference? That's not how typical, I know it's not, it's not permissible
01:39:08.640
to talk about, but I think everybody does it, uh, innately. And it's like white people are the only
01:39:15.440
ones that fight that instinct though. I just want to point that out. Like everybody else goes like,
01:39:19.920
yeah, I'm, of course I'm ride or die for the black dude in the story. Cause I'm black.
01:39:25.040
It works the other way too. It's not just, um, empathy. It's also like when you see a character
01:39:30.240
that you resonate with, right? So like you're watching, like, it's why I get so upset when I
01:39:34.680
look over at children's cartoons and all the, uh, strong leads are fat black lesbians. And I'm like,
01:39:40.400
because my kid can't identify with that character. And I don't really know any fat black lesbians.
01:39:45.440
I gotta say though, this is the exact argument that the DEI folks had been making when they
01:39:50.240
started to replace white leads with black leads. Yeah. And everybody like me argued against it
01:39:56.320
saying, why can't a black kid relate to Peter Parker? Like why, why can't he?
01:40:01.680
Or just make your own shit. Stop making them. I don't know if you guys have ever seen the weird
01:40:05.040
thing. That's the better answer in my opinion. That's a much better answer. Yeah.
01:40:07.520
Isn't it a testament to how effective the strategy is though? Because like, like in, uh, you know,
01:40:12.240
it's in, in our, in our soul, we understand that that works. Like we're showing you Prince Charming.
01:40:18.800
And then we're like, our children will emulate this. I want them to, to do this. And the other
01:40:22.800
side or whatever they are, they look at it and they'll be like, well, Prince Charming is gay
01:40:26.240
now. And we understand we're showing this to children. This is going to be replicated on a
01:40:30.320
higher level. It's just a, it's, it's just a truth, you know? So are we going to allow it to happen?
01:40:35.680
It's a question. The problem is, is that this DEI framework, which was brought in to try and,
01:40:41.920
you know, diminish, uh, I don't know, white supremacy or whatever. What it's actually created
01:40:48.160
though, as a consequence is like white people now recognizing race and talking about it. And
01:40:54.560
that was like a thing we did not do. Yeah. In the nineties, they taught us to not see color.
01:40:58.640
And by the way, it was correct about the replacing ginger thing. I don't know why, but it specifically
01:41:04.160
happens, especially in the Marvel universe to the tone of like damn near a hundred characters.
01:41:08.560
So far, almost a hundred characters that were white redheads have been replaced by black actors.
01:41:13.680
Very strange. And I want to show you this because I didn't think we were going to talk about it,
01:41:17.440
but I don't really care. I don't really care about it. Cause I'm not, I'm not ginger.
01:41:21.200
See how that works funny because Leonardo says, uh, Beyonce, I'm so proud to be black. Also Beyonce,
01:41:26.480
hold my wig. So this is Beyonce right here, uh, several shades lighter than she was when she first came
01:41:32.080
on the scene in destiny's child. And it's a fact that Beyonce is the face of her own brand promoted
01:41:37.520
her with her real hair, no big influencers, yada, yada, yada. It's just amazing. Her brand,
01:41:42.400
her brand is called sacred by the way, but it's C E with a little fucking dash, uh, C R E D.
01:41:48.480
What I've noticed is that the same people who are, especially in the music industry,
01:41:54.080
uh, who are espousing kind of like this sentiment of, um, black is beautiful and black people are,
01:42:01.200
you know, they're like a lot of what Jay Z and Beyonce are doing are trying to elevate the black
01:42:05.520
community. Um, but at the same time, but they're, they're adopting, they're adopting white aesthetics.
01:42:13.040
I mean, not just adopting white aesthetics. It's like their skin color is, yeah. Adopting white
01:42:17.520
aesthetics sounds like, I don't know, putting on a cowboy hat. I don't know. And she did do that,
01:42:22.080
right? She won like, she fucking your country album. Yeah. She had the best country album.
01:42:26.880
Uh, but she also just continually looking whiter and whiter as time goes on. Lil' Kim
01:42:32.960
did the exact same thing, right? If you look at Lil' Kim now, not only does she have big cat face
01:42:37.200
because it's so filled with, you know, plastic surgery and shit, but she presents as a white
01:42:41.280
woman. Now, if you watch a lot of these, uh, female black empowerment, kind of Hollywood elites,
01:42:47.600
they all turn white after a while. And so what's funny to me, what's funny to me is that
01:42:53.440
Beyonce is becoming a white woman while, while Jay-Z is becoming more and more of a caricature
01:42:58.400
of like a black slave in the 1800s. It's insane how he looks. If you, if you look at like his hair
01:43:03.120
is like unkempt, it's just out of, out of control. It's just, it's just, it's just funny because like
01:43:09.360
they're going in totally different directions. Um, but I, I've always found it fascinating that like
01:43:14.640
that, that black aesthetics, uh, or like beauty products are all about making them look more white.
01:43:21.120
Like look at that, look at that dude. Yeah. Vivek is getting lighter and lighter too. I,
01:43:26.000
I think he's trying to get his white people. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. He was like brown looking
01:43:29.440
before. Interesting. Look, I know. Look when, when you're not like black, black Jamaican thing,
01:43:34.320
you guys, summertime does take effect on you. Like you do get darker. True. It's a big,
01:43:38.400
that's a big Jamaican thing. Like, uh, the bleaching that was in, uh, uh, old school, not old school
01:43:43.600
reggae, like not Bob Marley, but like the dance hall reggae, they started bleaching from like there.
01:43:49.120
And it became an issue. It's a simple question, right? If black is beautiful and black culture
01:43:53.840
is superior and Yacoub made the white man, why are you wearing white women's wigs? Why are you
01:43:59.760
lightening your skin? I don't even look at that as like, um, I mean, a genuine, like, why are you
01:44:04.260
doing that? Is the industry moving you in this direction? Cause I'm willing to accept that,
01:44:09.300
that it's not Beyonce's idea to lighten her skin. Is, is the industry moving the artists in that
01:44:15.500
direction? Is it maybe it's because the black community here, let's take a, a, a generous
01:44:20.620
look at this. The black community is too small of a demographic to count for significant record
01:44:26.820
sales, especially because they steal most of them. And so you have to become relatable to white
01:44:32.260
people. Is, is that what the move is? I mean, it could be that, that innocent, not that that is
01:44:37.620
innocent, but it doesn't have to be nefarious. It could just be, Hey, we need you to start aiming.
01:44:42.300
That's why Beyonce does country music, right? She does country music because that's a big
01:44:46.500
demo. It's untapped. You can get a lot of people from there. You got to look relatable
01:44:50.820
to the white people. I think it's pretty simple. Is that if you, if you popularize natural black
01:44:57.020
hair, well, then you don't need to sell them products to straighten it. Ooh, touche.
01:45:01.060
Damn. Very simple, right? The hair industry, like for ethnic hair is fucking, it's a, is crazy.
01:45:09.440
Like how, how big that industry, how many products are in it? Also the products, they poison you.
01:45:13.900
They're bad for you. You shouldn't put them in your hair. Uh, but yeah, there's, there's definitely
01:45:17.500
something to that. Either that, or somebody came along and they said, you know what, why don't we
01:45:22.940
stop taking black people and, and having them replace white people? Why don't black people just
01:45:27.820
doing their own thing? And then the industry was like, turns out they, they don't even want it.
01:45:31.320
So back to, back to marketing towards white people. Maybe things are just objectively
01:45:35.260
cool. And it's, it's not necessarily from, you know, like not everything good is from one side.
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So like black people do cool shit. Like I have, I just bought a bunch of Jordans. Cool shoe, dude.
01:45:45.580
Uh, probably designed by a Chinese slave, but like popularized by a black man. And it's like,
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I like them. I think that they look really nice. They have a really cool style. White women are beautiful.
01:45:55.360
Objectively, like long straight blonde hair. I understand that. Like my hair is not like that,
01:45:59.780
but it's like, yeah, I like the straight hair. It could be. I got to point this out though,
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because just as I said that they're, they're not allowing for black women to have their natural
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hair because then they can't sell them product. Same fucking shit from the marketing community
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was levied against the white women. If you remember in the eighties, every white one,
01:46:18.920
which naturally most white women have straighter hair, um, all of them, all of them were fucking
01:46:24.480
blown out, big perms and shit and hairspray, everything else. So I think the,
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the reality is, is that like all you have to do to sell product is to make sure that people don't
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want to be how they are naturally. And then, and then that's it. But as a consequence of that,
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you've essentially made women fucking psychopaths where like they, they despise how they are naturally
01:46:45.260
built and look. Um, I'm actually, this will be an interesting conversation with Josie if she wants
01:46:50.060
to talk to me about it. Um, but I do think that that's a big part of it is just like, well,
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you just can't, you can't allow for your normal look because then we can't sell you anything.
01:46:59.080
Yes. It's the, it's the most genius market. You might be right over the target. It's the most
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genius market to target with it because they are like woman by default are very unhappy with how
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they look, even if they are like are beautiful. And they're stupid too. Yeah. Easy to manipulate.
01:47:12.480
Yeah. And then you just pair that with some money. Can't bench press for shit. No, definitely can't
01:47:16.940
bench press. Are you kidding me? Can't fight either. Uh, yeah, I think there, there might be something to that.
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And then what they're also doing by the way is women's, you know, sort of beauty products,
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massive industry, but they're now finding out that the vast majority of the products that you're
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slathering on your skin and you're putting in your hair and it's sitting there all day
01:47:35.380
getting absorbed are endocrine disruptors. They are fucking your hormones up baby. And you're just
01:47:42.180
fucking, you know, basically soaking in them all day long. It's a wild, uh, thing. Why is our lower
01:47:48.120
chiron Ian Carroll case? Cause he's, he got famous from that. He, I did it. He got famous from it.
01:47:53.740
He's, uh, um, going around to the stores and telling you what's in the shampoos and it's like,
01:47:58.120
right, right, right. Yeah. Like some of this stuff is actually making you go. Oh no, that's,
01:48:01.480
that's true. Yeah. And he, he, uh, partners with companies that do that. Yeah. He nailed it.
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He nailed it. See, I like Ian Carroll. I'll give him his flowers. He's cooking. Well,
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thank you guys so much for tuning in to dangerous retards episode eight. Uh, as you guys know,
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01:48:46.000
I hope we're doing it in a way that is, uh, elucidating and not just entirely divisive,
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but I try and, uh, love you guys. Yeah, that's it. Also let us know if there's something you think
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we don't have the balls to talk about. Oh no, don't do that. Guys. We'll see you. We'll see you on
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Thursday. Clint, thank you for showing up. Yeah, no problem. Thanks for not being sick. You piece of shit.