Nephilim Death Squad - 009： Inverted World w⧸ Shane Cashman

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00:00:58.400 We are being hypnotized by people like this.

00:01:08.260 News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers. 0.99

00:01:12.860 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:01:21.760 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely huge.

00:01:27.500 Oh, yeah, dude. 1.00

00:01:28.820 There's some left-wing shit. 1.00

00:01:30.040 It's like we all know what's going down. 1.00

00:01:32.680 We know what's saying to what happened to the home of the brave. 1.00

00:01:36.200 Motherfuckers, they controlling us now. 1.00

00:01:37.880 We know we're talking about how they made us try to be slaves. 1.00

00:01:40.980 And everybody's just walking around.

00:01:43.100 Out in the clouds, we won't awaken to a dead in the grave.

00:01:46.220 But then it's too late.

00:01:47.200 We need to be ready to raise up.

00:01:49.020 Welcome to the end of day. 0.99

00:01:50.700 Welcome back to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad, the show where we hunt down and expose Nephilim shit. 1.00

00:02:03.900 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven. 0.99

00:02:06.720 That's Top Lobster. 0.96

00:02:08.160 And today's guest is the great Shane Cashman. 0.98

00:02:11.460 Every episode, I listen to fucking, listen to Vinny Paz and I just get hype. 0.93

00:02:15.720 I'm like, I'm just like, I was ready to go. 0.98

00:02:17.960 Once I seen Shane, I was like, the homie's here and we're going to go crazy. 1.00

00:02:21.300 But then Vinny Paz brings it to another level, man.

00:02:23.740 Shane, thank you for joining us.

00:02:25.280 It's great to be here.

00:02:26.200 Thank you guys for having me, man.

00:02:28.480 Of course, of course.

00:02:29.300 Shane, before we jump into it, you want to let everybody know, not that you need much of an introduction,

00:02:33.060 but where they can find your work and a little bit about what you do.

00:02:36.480 Yeah, you can find me at Shane Cashman everywhere online,

00:02:39.720 except for TikTok, because Alex Jones, there's like a tripwire on TikTok

00:02:43.420 where the second they hear his voice, they just zap you off the platform.

00:02:46.820 But I hate TikTok, so I'm not so mad about it.

00:02:49.000 And I write for TimCast.com.

00:02:50.880 I write a lot of different profiles. 0.99

00:02:52.400 I write about ghosts, aliens, a bunch of Nephilim shit, stuff like that. 0.98

00:02:58.780 He's playing to our soft side already. 1.00

00:03:01.320 He's like, he's hopping into the Nephilim shit. 1.00

00:03:03.420 I'm like, I'm ready to do it. 0.99

00:03:04.820 It's the Pandaverse, baby. 0.93

00:03:06.120 Yeah, so wait, TikTok really has, they have something that they'll just zap you for anything

00:03:10.920 like that sounds like Alex Jones?

00:03:13.020 I guess.

00:03:13.940 It was like the instant, I put up, I put up like two videos of me and him talking when I

00:03:17.540 did InfoWars, and it was immediately gone.

00:03:20.640 They were like, yeah, peace out.

00:03:22.160 And I was like, oh, wow, that was it.

00:03:23.940 There's a lot of depraved stuff on TikTok, as I'm sure we all know.

00:03:27.160 But for whatever reason, Alex's voice did it.

00:03:30.580 And he said nothing controversial.

00:03:33.140 The one clip I put up was me wishing Kanye West a happy birthday, because it was his birthday

00:03:37.340 when I did InfoWars.

00:03:38.660 And that was it.

00:03:40.340 Alex only said like, hello or something.

00:03:43.080 So I don't know.

00:03:44.300 Maybe it's me.

00:03:45.300 I highly doubt it.

00:03:46.180 I think it was Alex's voice.

00:03:48.060 You would think that China would have like a vested interest in allowing the voice of

00:03:51.920 Alex Jones to just cause chaos and fracture the country every which way.

00:03:55.840 I think they're missing real estate there.

00:03:57.900 Like that's money left on the table.

00:03:59.760 They should be allowing, if anywhere, they should be allowing Alex on TikTok to disseminate

00:04:05.260 just chaos, chaos across America.

00:04:08.340 If they really want to fracture reality, just let the man go wild on TikTok.

00:04:14.480 But they don't.

00:04:16.340 He hates the CCP too much.

00:04:18.580 I think they have too much pride to let him bash them so openly on TikTok.

00:04:24.120 That is a maybe that's like a flaw, a fatal flaw in their design.

00:04:28.660 They're spending so much money to do other small things. 0.97

00:04:31.160 They're like buy their farmland and shit like that. 0.84

00:04:32.880 It's like, dude, just just let us see everything. 0.99

00:04:35.540 And then America will crumble by itself.

00:04:38.000 It's that easy.

00:04:39.480 It's happening before our eyes right now.

00:04:41.600 I've been wondering about this whole, you know, X being like the platform for free speech.

00:04:47.940 And yet like we have we have David Icke, right?

00:04:51.060 Who's who's I would say on the same wavelength as far as how long he's been in the game of

00:04:56.840 conspiracy theories.

00:04:57.720 And and the messaging is very similar, although Ike takes much more of a backseat when it comes

00:05:03.160 to politics.

00:05:04.180 But we have no Alex Jones.

00:05:06.300 And I'm going, is this is this free speech or not?

00:05:08.660 Is this America or not?

00:05:10.300 Well, it kind of connects back to what we were just saying about the CCP and pride.

00:05:15.100 You know, Elon's definitely changed Twitter in many ways, but there's still a pride thing

00:05:19.680 there when it comes to his personal feelings towards someone like Alex or any other person

00:05:24.880 that's been kicked off and not allowed back.

00:05:26.600 You know, we know how he feels about Alex Jones.

00:05:28.760 He's been very fairly open about his interpretation of Alex's situation in terms of Sandy Hook, which

00:05:35.460 doesn't allow him to like bring him back.

00:05:37.800 I personally would love Alex to be on all these platforms, let everyone decide whether

00:05:41.220 they like him or not.

00:05:42.480 And, you know, especially going into 2024.

00:05:44.960 Can you imagine having Alex Jones and Tucker on Twitter going hard against everything and

00:05:50.360 then leave it up to us to say who we like, what we don't like, you know, but Elon and his

00:05:55.160 team, they just don't like they think he's genuinely awful.

00:05:59.980 You know, they define awful very different than we might define awful. 0.93

00:06:04.220 You know, he's awful, awful, awful. 0.90

00:06:06.160 He's awful, like that kind of, yeah. 0.97

00:06:07.760 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:06:08.580 Ridiculous. 1.00

00:06:09.040 It's ridiculous. 0.99

00:06:09.600 I think, I think Elon and Alex have more in common than Elon would like to believe. 0.79

00:06:15.840 They both care about people in charge who are for population control.

00:06:21.180 They both hate Paul Ehrlich, who's the guy who's for decades been talking about cutting

00:06:26.900 down the family in this country.

00:06:29.080 They both openly said they think he's the number one enemy in this country.

00:06:33.180 So I'm like, yo, there's a chance there for you guys to come together and get along and 0.98

00:06:38.000 talk about these problems that are vastly more important than all the little bullshit 0.97

00:06:42.600 we talk about in terms of politics. 0.96

00:06:44.400 That's fleeting stuff.

00:06:45.440 This population control stuff has been going on for decades.

00:06:48.320 And Paul Ehrlich is the architect of a lot of that stuff.

00:06:50.840 So at some point, I'd love to see that happen.

00:06:53.300 But for now, it's not happening.

00:06:54.920 Shane, you're a unique dude, obviously, but you're in a very unique position where you're

00:07:00.360 like, you're friends with Kanye, you're friends with Alex, and I see you all the time.

00:07:05.740 You're like, Mr. Musk, I'd love to get this interview. 0.98

00:07:08.060 And it's like, he should do this fucking interview. 0.98

00:07:10.160 Like, what are you doing with this AI system? 0.99

00:07:12.680 What are you doing, Neuralink?

00:07:14.360 What are you doing?

00:07:15.380 I would love to see the questions you asked him.

00:07:17.900 And honestly, it's probably why he'll never talk to you.

00:07:19.900 But didn't he just come out with an AI that's modeled after his personality?

00:07:27.160 Am I butchering that entirely?

00:07:29.340 It's Gronk.

00:07:30.260 I don't know what that is, but it's his version.

00:07:33.180 It would make sense that it's modeled after his personality.

00:07:37.380 But I don't know about that part.

00:07:38.680 But what's interesting to me in terms of that, me wanting to question him, is like,

00:07:43.380 we have a bunch of mutual friends through Twitter.

00:07:45.420 And some of those friends have been receptive to my public asking of Elon for an interview

00:07:52.080 and have reached out.

00:07:53.920 And they never come to fruition.

00:07:55.500 And my personal feelings are like, maybe he doesn't like my stance on Alex Jones, right?

00:08:00.600 I've been fairly public about that.

00:08:02.500 It's been all, there was a lot of it on Twitter.

00:08:04.000 It was my pinned tweet for a while.

00:08:05.660 So maybe he's like, I don't want to talk to a guy who's favorable to someone like Alex Jones.

00:08:10.880 And Kanye.

00:08:12.100 But him and Kanye might be working it out.

00:08:13.620 Who knows?

00:08:14.000 But here's the thing.

00:08:15.740 Like, yeah, so that I've been getting into, well, not anymore, but about six months ago,

00:08:20.280 I was really into the psychology of what makes Elon Musk tick, right?

00:08:23.620 Because now you're kind of putting, you're putting things together, like why this and

00:08:26.800 not this and why this and not that?

00:08:28.480 Well, I did that tweet.

00:08:29.640 You guys remember, Adrena Chrome or the Jays, which way?

00:08:33.700 Oh, yeah.

00:08:34.500 And Elon Musk likes it and then comments on it.

00:08:37.820 So right now, now the question is, you should really do some thinking about this yourself.

00:08:42.060 Because if you're trying to get his attention, you've got to understand why.

00:08:44.840 And I still don't understand.

00:08:46.820 You saw a picture of Mel Gibson.

00:08:48.200 You saw a picture of Biden.

00:08:49.760 And you decided to say that Mel Gibson is looking buff these days.

00:08:52.920 What's going on in your brain?

00:08:54.200 What is this?

00:08:55.040 What does it mean?

00:08:55.540 Yeah, I think for him, he probably saw that you guys also have some mutuals.

00:09:00.500 And he was like, oh, I'll just interact with this.

00:09:02.280 And then he saw, like, he understood the bigger meaning and he probably dipped out of it.

00:09:11.180 So I think that's his thing is maybe he doesn't, he shoots from the hip a lot.

00:09:14.620 And when it comes to Neuralink, maybe correct me if I'm wrong, if you've seen something different.

00:09:21.160 I have yet to see an interview that's really in depth with someone who's really, like, curious and also skeptical of the Neuralink.

00:09:28.920 Whenever it comes up with him in interviews, he kind of laughs off when people bring up the deeper consequences that are deeper into the future.

00:09:36.700 Not just will people be able to walk again and see again.

00:09:40.200 Okay, that's a really complex issue.

00:09:42.300 I understand the beauty in it.

00:09:43.440 But beyond that, when we start talking about uploading your consciousness into the computer and I have to deal with my kids doing that in 20, 30 years, who knows, right?

00:09:51.200 Kurzweil would like it to happen now.

00:09:53.480 I want to know about that.

00:09:54.760 I want to know what he thinks about that.

00:09:56.020 I want to know what he thinks about regulation and stuff like that.

00:09:59.820 I don't know.

00:10:00.280 I don't know if he's, I don't know what it is.

00:10:02.380 He might just not have seen it yet.

00:10:03.540 I don't think that's true, but maybe that's the case.

00:10:07.560 I would love to hear him talk about it.

00:10:09.320 It doesn't have to be with me.

00:10:10.640 I just am really, really curious about the Neuralink and what that means, especially now that the FDA has approved human trials.

00:10:18.520 And I'm just like, we're all sitting back like, oh, it's Elon.

00:10:21.360 I'm like, all right, I get it.

00:10:22.740 It's Elon.

00:10:23.260 He wants to colonize Mars and all this stuff.

00:10:26.260 But this is, he built a literal robot to do the surgery in your brain to implant a microchip that could do things such as fixing seizures that could give you sight back.

00:10:39.540 But it could also get you hijacked.

00:10:42.220 You get hacked in your brain if you upload your consciousness at some point, which people will be like, it'll never happen.

00:10:47.420 And I'm like, bro, anything's possible.

00:10:50.180 Look at the future.

00:10:50.920 Look what we're dealing with right now.

00:10:52.700 It's so much more nefarious.

00:10:54.200 It's so much worse than that.

00:10:55.220 The thing you shared today with Kathy Hochul talking about going to people that are just putting up random posts online.

00:11:02.260 If you're in New York City, they're talking about arresting you or at least fining you.

00:11:06.740 I don't know exactly what she said as far as punishment.

00:11:09.400 But now imagine this in your brain.

00:11:12.320 You can't even like, first off, I have no control for what my brain goes and my finger types.

00:11:17.120 Literally, it's like just a direct line.

00:11:19.400 There is no.

00:11:20.680 As it should be.

00:11:21.540 Most people do.

00:11:22.040 As it should be, yeah.

00:11:22.940 Most people do.

00:11:23.540 All my crimes are out on the open.

00:11:25.020 They're on Twitter already.

00:11:26.000 So they can just, that's my brain.

00:11:27.400 But that's a scary thought that you can pair those two things and just arrest people for thinking something one day.

00:11:33.300 It's the ultimate form of whatever.

00:11:36.940 Crime.

00:11:37.600 No, it's literal thought crime.

00:11:39.440 You can literally think something.

00:11:41.120 And then it's like, well, who defines the crime?

00:11:43.660 Who defines what hate is?

00:11:45.160 Who's out there saying this is hateful?

00:11:47.300 Like when Linda and Elon say lawful but not awful, what's awful?

00:11:51.300 We have a very different bandwidth for awful, right?

00:11:54.500 Yes, I do.

00:11:55.580 Quite different, you know?

00:11:56.740 And they can't weaponize that against us.

00:11:59.680 So, yeah, the Neuralink into the future, who knows how far into the future, a lot of people have it because you'll feel left out in that society without having it like it is for smartphones today.

00:12:10.040 And you have these things.

00:12:12.000 What's not to say that something will come across their screen being like, oh, Top just thought something about Nephilim, you know? 0.99

00:12:19.040 Damn. 0.99

00:12:19.720 Turn off his fridge. 1.00

00:12:20.900 Turn off his car.

00:12:22.160 You know, tell his boss all these things.

00:12:24.320 That is worse.

00:12:25.200 And they're doing that kind of stuff already.

00:12:28.200 You know, remember in the summer they were turning up people's air conditioning or that guy got locked out of his fridge or something because of Amazon.

00:12:35.240 So it's really – it sounds crazy to some people, but I'm like it's really not that far away.

00:12:39.160 So I don't know why we sound crazy for saying it.

00:12:41.760 Let's – I got something that sounds really crazy.

00:12:43.840 I had a guest on one of my other shows, The Raven's Watch.

00:12:46.120 His name was Drew, and he goes by Drew Tang on X.

00:12:50.260 And he had a really interesting theory about – are you familiar with the concept of predictive programming through Hollywood?

00:12:57.080 Yeah, of course.

00:12:57.220 This idea that they'll kind of – revelation of the method.

00:12:59.780 They'll show you a thing before they roll it out.

00:13:01.760 I don't know what it's for.

00:13:02.760 Either it frees them up karmically or they're programming you and getting you ready for something.

00:13:08.680 But he went into this really compelling theory about how Iron Man, the archetype for Iron Man, is actually modeled after Elon Musk.

00:13:16.040 And so Robert Downey Jr. actually said in an interview that he modeled Tony after Elon Musk.

00:13:22.260 In Iron Man 2, there's this moment where he comes out at the Stark Expo Center, right, or the Expo show, whatever it is.

00:13:29.580 Yeah.

00:13:29.860 And he lands on stage in classic Iron Man fashion.

00:13:33.020 And in the background, the X in Expo is giant and highlighted, and it's a different color.

00:13:38.500 And he does his piece, and he steps off stage.

00:13:40.500 And the very first person that he speaks to, apparently, according to Drew, is Elon Musk, who makes a cameo in the film.

00:13:46.760 And so then you have Tony.

00:13:50.580 His entire arc is about fighting this depopulation agenda, right, in the form of Thanos, who's going to snap his fingers and wipe away half of the population.

00:14:00.340 And who is Musk vehemently opposed to in the real world is Bill Gates.

00:14:09.400 What's his name of the World Economic Forum?

00:14:12.000 You know, these are people that he is in opposition to.

00:14:15.340 And now, all of a sudden, he's coming out with this AI that potentially, we don't know, might be modeled after his own personality, which is the plot line of one of the other Avengers films, where it's like Tony creates Ultron, and Ultron is an AI.

00:14:29.260 Dude, so you see where I'm going with this, right?

00:14:33.500 I don't necessarily buy into this theory 100%, but it is very strange that we're allowing this man to, one, social engineer on the highest scale, right?

00:14:44.960 Twitter X, the most successful social media platform, by and large, right?

00:14:49.380 It's head and shoulders above all the other competition.

00:14:51.860 So, if you were to consider for a moment that social media is in the game of social engineering, well, then Twitter X is doing the best job at that in comparison to these other things.

00:15:03.520 So, we have this guy who is engineering culture in a massive way, and now he is gearing up to put a Neuralink in the minds of human beings, which I would be upset if it didn't come with an onboard AI.

00:15:19.040 And then onboard AI is going to be modeled after him.

00:15:49.040 Yep. And he has like a million kids.

00:15:54.780 He just wants to have more kids.

00:15:56.320 He just wants all of us to be his kids.

00:15:58.620 Oh, my God.

00:15:59.020 And like Stark puts the stone in his chest, I think Elon has the Neuralink already.

00:16:05.660 Oh, he does.

00:16:06.280 I think if you watch certain interviews with him, I think it was Bill Maher where I really started to notice it, or maybe the Tucker Carlson one.

00:16:14.060 I can't remember which one.

00:16:15.560 And it could just be his autism because he says he's on a spectrum.

00:16:18.940 So, maybe it's that.

00:16:20.120 I personally think he's got Neuralink.

00:16:23.180 And like you see him pause sometimes, and it's almost like his eyes are scanning for the perfect, most relatable answer that's also somewhat funny to kind of gain our – to be endearing to us.

00:16:34.980 I'm also maybe partly schizophrenic.

00:16:37.240 So, who knows, you know? 0.99

00:16:39.400 Who fucking knows? 0.98

00:16:41.260 Check this out, though. 0.99

00:16:43.300 There is like a processing to him, right?

00:16:45.340 When he does things, he's like, well –

00:16:47.240 And then he answers you.

00:16:48.140 And on the latest Joe Rogan, there was such a pregnant pause where if I was Joe, I would have been like – anyway.

00:16:54.840 But Joe's an expert at what he does.

00:16:56.640 So, he let him – he let him cook.

00:16:58.540 But I will say, though, there are people who operate on crazy levels that do that.

00:17:03.720 Like Kanye does do that too.

00:17:05.720 He did it in the Rogan interview.

00:17:06.820 He did it with me.

00:17:07.740 We're like, they pause.

00:17:08.740 And maybe he's just searching for that perfect answer.

00:17:10.900 I don't think Kanye has a Neuralink.

00:17:11.940 I think Kanye is very anti-Neuralink.

00:17:13.800 I don't know for sure.

00:17:14.520 But I think sometimes that is – to make the argument against what I was saying is that maybe he's searching for that right answer.

00:17:21.420 I just find it hard to believe with Elon because I think he really does believe in his technology, which is dope.

00:17:28.380 It's crazy that he's a wild genius, a wild inventor man.

00:17:33.200 And I wouldn't put it past him to be such a believer of his technology, to put it in his own brain, to take it for a test drive before the FDA gave him approval, right?

00:17:41.480 I'd do it 100%.

00:17:42.720 I mean if it's your thing, like I'm trying it first, of course.

00:17:45.660 If it's your thing, I would never make the Neuralink if I was that smart because I think it's demonic and I think it's anti-human and I think it's totally wrong.

00:17:53.080 Although I think it's got a lot of beautiful things it can do for people who are like wounded vets or whatever.

00:17:58.040 But just the consequences into the deep future are so overwhelming.

00:18:01.940 It's like once you create it, you never stop it.

00:18:04.600 Like AI.

00:18:05.660 It's just going to get crazier.

00:18:06.620 Here's a theory.

00:18:08.280 Someone brought up a couple episodes ago.

00:18:10.020 I'm sorry, I'm going to let – Dave was going to go on his thing.

00:18:12.960 Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

00:18:13.640 So a couple episodes ago they brought up the idea of Nikola Tesla and even David Icke channeling ancient Atlantean gods to get their –

00:18:25.580 People that died, ascended masters from Atlantis and that's how David Icke gets his information.

00:18:30.440 But I mean, listen, if you're talking about the modern-day Tesla, it's got to be Elon Musk.

00:18:36.020 Even though he's not doing as great of things as Tesla was doing, he's just like the top of the line.

00:18:41.380 Yeah.

00:18:42.020 Who's he talking to?

00:18:43.440 And is it like a karmic thing?

00:18:45.900 Like if – let's say the Nephilim were trying to bring back themselves into a consciousness that will then take physical form because they can't have bodies here, only spiritual bodies in the realm beyond ours, like the mushroom realm and all that. 0.82

00:18:57.880 And they have to get back in this realm, but they can talk to you and they can talk to people like Tesla and Elon Musk.

00:19:03.840 Wouldn't they be trying to get you to make something? 0.98

00:19:06.940 Like who the fuck is Elon Musk talking to? 0.99

00:19:08.780 Maybe. 0.99

00:19:09.360 What if he's talking to advanced AI that they created so long ago but we don't know about?

00:19:14.580 And so he's getting some regurgitated information, like a collage of information like chat GPT would give you.

00:19:21.040 But it's so advanced, it's like he's talking to someone, but it's really like he's talking to all his favorite inventors, but it's AI versions of them, which I wouldn't trust because I think that's soulless, right?

00:19:30.760 Yeah.

00:19:31.000 Maybe that's why he's not on a Tesla level because Tesla was talking to some type of organic being perhaps, right?

00:19:36.880 Which is also funny you bring up the Tesla thing because I think Trump and that Tesla connection is more interesting than a lot of people let on, right?

00:19:46.520 That his uncle collected all the Tesla stuff.

00:19:48.420 Yes.

00:19:48.900 Afterwards, like I think Trump very well could have some type of information from the future.

00:19:56.480 I think – but I want to say that.

00:19:58.760 The Ingersoll-Lockwood books? 0.98

00:19:59.940 Yeah, I want to say it, but it's like he does fuck up so much. 1.00

00:20:04.100 He still fucks up. 1.00

00:20:05.020 Oh, there it is. 0.99

00:20:06.000 Yeah.

00:20:06.180 There it is.

00:20:06.680 Yeah.

00:20:07.220 That's so cool, dude.

00:20:08.580 And maybe – but maybe he fucks up to make us think he doesn't have that access, you know, which is where my schizophrenic brain comes in.

00:20:15.880 But who knows, you know? 0.54

00:20:17.040 Who knows? 1.00

00:20:18.120 These motherfuckers are playing 5D chess. 1.00

00:20:19.840 Look, all of this is coming to a head, right? 1.00

00:20:23.520 It's all pointing towards transhumanism.

00:20:26.360 And I've been thinking a lot, especially because I've been catching your conversations on TimCast.

00:20:32.640 You guys will go back and forth quite a bit about this idea of adult adolescence, right?

00:20:38.000 And whether or not the future generations will even be sustainable or if we're going to keep catering society towards millennials, for example, because we were the last ones that – boomers had a lot of kids and we're not having a lot of kids.

00:20:51.640 I have one myself and we're kind of the one and done camp.

00:20:55.600 But there's this question about whether or not the next generation is even going to be sustainable or if you're even going to want to target that audience as, let's say, a corporation who's selling a product.

00:21:06.160 So you're going to start gearing all of your advertisements towards basically us, right?

00:21:10.720 And I started thinking about this weird – like I was saying, this adult adolescence epidemic that we're finding ourselves in.

00:21:19.280 And I realized that one of the big key components to perpetuating that kind of culture is the media, is Hollywood, is the music industry.

00:21:30.640 Hollywood in particular, when you were, let's say, 50 years ago, right?

00:21:36.860 They made entertainment for you when you were a child.

00:21:40.540 And let's go even further back, 70 years ago.

00:21:42.380 When you were a kid, the industry was aimed at you.

00:21:44.540 They made cartoons for you and all that other crap, right?

00:21:46.860 And then as you got older, you aged out of that stuff and they no longer aimed at you.

00:21:51.100 They aimed at the next generation of children.

00:21:52.840 But all of a sudden, something happened around the 80s and 90s where like the industry realized –

00:21:56.840 I can't do it anymore.

00:21:59.060 Continuously aim at us as we get older. 1.00

00:22:01.580 Keep giving us the same shit, right? 0.99

00:22:03.380 Keep giving us remakes of all of our entertainment from when we were kids. 0.99

00:22:07.280 Keep giving us remakes of our favorite movies, our favorite shows, our favorite cartoons, whatever it is.

00:22:12.580 You no longer have to come to terms with – I think there was a benefit in getting that feeling that society was forgetting about you.

00:22:20.880 Society is moving on from you.

00:22:22.220 It's time for you to age gracefully and go into the next season of life.

00:22:25.680 We don't have to go into the next season of life because culture is continuously aiming at us.

00:22:31.020 We're always going to walk around with graphic tees because they're always going to make them for us.

00:22:34.700 We're always going to see a new Ninja Turtle movies in theaters because they're always going to make it for us.

00:22:38.660 They just recycle our culture over and over again and keep the propaganda machine aimed at us so that we never feel compelled to age gracefully.

00:22:47.480 We never feel compelled to go into the next season.

00:22:49.460 David, they haven't had psyops this intense on our generation, on our age group at least in – I don't even know.

00:23:00.060 Probably since before our lifetimes, before Christ at least.

00:23:03.260 Who knows what they were doing before with way advanced technology.

00:23:05.960 But they're aiming at us like this for a reason.

00:23:10.040 We have to pull off COVID. 0.99

00:23:11.660 It's like, okay, like you said, give them fucking three more Ninja Turtles. 0.98

00:23:15.300 Bring it back for them at 30. 0.99

00:23:16.520 Yeah.

00:23:16.760 It's like something about that allows the next thing that we're going to do to you.

00:23:21.020 And we have to do it by a certain time, like the 20, 30 thing or whatever they're saying.

00:23:24.320 And I don't think that's just to distract us.

00:23:27.320 I think it's to make us fear death.

00:23:30.160 That's my whole theory is like we're afraid to go not only into the next season of life and age gracefully,

00:23:36.200 but we're probably more afraid of death than any prior generation before us.

00:23:41.860 And all of a sudden, as we reach the finish line, Elon Musk is going to dangle the keys to some form of transhumanism, something like that.

00:23:51.300 And we're going to clamor for it because we've not even been able to become parents gracefully or certainly not grandparents when that time comes.

00:24:01.100 And I think that when the time comes to die gracefully, we're going to be more afraid than any other culture or any other generation before us.

00:24:09.940 And we're going to get – we're going to leap into transhumanism because we've never taught –

00:24:14.920 Go ahead, Shane.

00:24:15.920 I think you're right about the fear of death.

00:24:18.240 I also think this society has made a lot of people forget death even happens, right?

00:24:23.740 And what you're talking about with like this generational thing going on and the way advertisement used to move on,

00:24:32.000 the internet has like flattened all of us and all of our generations.

00:24:35.460 And so we're like this infinite nothing age, right?

00:24:38.360 But young.

00:24:39.420 They want to keep us young.

00:24:41.780 You know, there's obviously things where like I'm 38, the 90s register with me in a big way and we have that to point to as like a thing that defines my generation.

00:24:51.920 But that could be for anybody now born at any age because the internet is like a time travel machine where you can go experience any decade.

00:24:58.340 I can go see Pantera play Moscow in the 80s and it's like I'm there, right?

00:25:02.820 And you can get that for any experience now.

00:25:05.780 And I think that flattening of a society also is to make – like you're saying.

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00:25:38.080 These adult adolescents, and that goes into I think how you started this, no kids, right?

00:25:44.260 Because if you grow up and you don't have kids, you're this adult, childless adult, and you don't really have that extra responsibility of like you're sacrificing yourself for your own offspring, for the next generation.

00:25:58.420 And so you're constantly just moving forward like a child with like sort of like faux adult responsibilities, but you're still looking forward to the next Ninja Turtles movies because you're addicted to the drug of nostalgia. 0.62

00:26:10.100 And that just keeps you hooked up to whatever bullshit they want you hooked up to, to keep you distracted, to keep you a kid, to lower the population perhaps, you know, all these things.

00:26:19.200 But I also think on the positive side, there's a lot of people like our age who still believe in having children and, you know, progressing in that way, in a good way. 0.86

00:26:30.400 The good word of progress, not the false bad word of progress, like actual progressing into the future with your offspring and continuing that.

00:26:38.400 Because I see a lot of people out like I'm in the rural areas of West Virginia.

00:26:41.900 And it's like to me, it feels like the 90s.

00:26:44.320 You know, I see a lot of people who just live in life still.

00:26:47.300 We want to have families and go to church.

00:26:49.100 You know, we understand that the world is dark and there's sinister things happening. 0.94

00:26:52.420 But we're focused on community and children and kind of that's like the rebellion against this bullshit we're talking about, like this flattened society. 0.94

00:27:01.680 That's where I live. 0.98

00:27:02.500 Same thing.

00:27:03.640 But the thought keeps coming across my head, like as you guys are saying this stuff, because I firmly believe it.

00:27:09.400 And this is I've been thinking for a while, but it's like we're the generation that's going to have to deal with it.

00:27:13.900 You know, my parents, my mom's been talking about the mark of the beast for the longest time, you know, right.

00:27:19.100 Whether it be a chip in your hand or in your brain, but you can't buy or sell.

00:27:22.400 I mean, this is very close to this. 0.99

00:27:24.660 And it's something that people with children specifically are going to have to deal with, because the people without the ones without the responsibility, the ones I'm going to live fast, I'm going to live forever, this kind of shit. 0.94

00:27:34.740 They're going to be the first ones to take this stuff.

00:27:36.820 So like, yeah, us, which it's a fucking scary though, because there's not there's not as many as there needs to be.

00:27:42.480 And I'm not saying like an outright battle, but like, we're just going to have to be like, who knows what happens to the just the job market?

00:27:48.020 Like, everybody gets chipped.

00:27:50.260 Yeah, I think, well, it's kind of like the, okay, go back in terms of mark of the beast.

00:27:55.740 And in terms of people accepting the mark of the beast, look at COVID, look what lockdowns did. 0.99

00:28:00.540 It accelerated people who would accept that bullshit. 0.91

00:28:03.220 And it also accelerated the people who were more than okay, to let their digital identities become their actual identities, right? 0.98

00:28:11.380 How many people went online?

00:28:12.400 How many people went to funerals through zoom, zoom and Instagram and Twitter became everyone's full on identity.

00:28:18.380 Whereas the physical world just fell away for a lot of those people who are so fearful of death, like what you were saying just a little bit ago, right?

00:28:23.800 And if you're so online, you forget about death.

00:28:26.740 There is no death.

00:28:27.820 You live forever, which then ties in to Neuralink, where you can live forever.

00:28:32.040 Oh, my goodness.

00:28:32.880 Let's plug in.

00:28:33.920 You know, we could go, we could always be like this.

00:28:35.260 We could always do.

00:28:36.100 But maybe one positive thing is, you know, like, like in COVID, we saw society completely fracture. 0.99

00:28:42.100 There was those of us who said, fuck that. 0.99

00:28:44.620 We went and lived our lives. 1.00

00:28:45.820 We had kids.

00:28:46.440 We did our thing.

00:28:47.480 And there's other ones, like I just said, who uploaded their consciousness or their identities into the Internet.

00:28:52.780 And that was it.

00:28:53.320 And they were happy with that.

00:28:54.380 So maybe in the future, as this keeps going and this keeps fracturing, they'll just stay on the Internet and they'll live there, live there.

00:29:00.140 You know, they'll live the remainder of the days out.

00:29:02.080 They'll have fake kids.

00:29:03.120 They'll have their fake wife, whatever. 1.00

00:29:04.980 And then they'll just, they'll just go away.

00:29:07.260 It's kind of like they're just the metaverse killing themselves.

00:29:09.960 Right. 0.99

00:29:10.400 They'll just die. 1.00

00:29:11.440 And then if they die and they upload their consciousness, their consciousness will just be a feedback loop on the metaverse and who gives a shit. 0.99

00:29:18.200 You know, you can go in and look at it and be like, wow. 0.94

00:29:20.220 Then Elon Musk is actually, he's not, he's not pro population.

00:29:25.580 He might be even worse than, than the Bill Gates, because this is what he's creating.

00:29:29.860 I know.

00:29:30.740 I know.

00:29:31.700 He says otherwise.

00:29:32.980 He's saying one thing.

00:29:33.780 Yeah.

00:29:34.020 Right.

00:29:34.200 Bill Gates is like, he's like, we only, we got to get rid of one quarter of you guys on earth about, and Elon Musk is like 75% easily with this AI.

00:29:44.100 So imagine, imagine that future, imagine that future where Bill Gates and Elon both get what they want.

00:29:48.920 And it's a sun that's been completely blocked out with a planet that's being swarmed by robot mosquitoes.

00:29:55.740 And then everyone's plugged into the metaverse.

00:29:58.840 How far away is that?

00:30:00.680 It's literally the matrix.

00:30:02.560 Yeah, it is.

00:30:03.500 It is.

00:30:03.740 It is the matrix.

00:30:04.980 It's insane.

00:30:05.540 See, that part, that part of that, that we just described is never really attributed to the movie, the matrix.

00:30:11.280 Most people, but that's what I was thinking of.

00:30:13.020 Yeah. 0.96

00:30:13.260 But I mean, the actual dark sky, like they fucking nailed it with less. 0.96

00:30:17.060 Oh yeah. 0.93

00:30:17.660 Again, more predictive programming. 0.99

00:30:19.460 God damn, this is a bad episode. 0.99

00:30:21.720 I don't like this. 0.99

00:30:23.660 No, it's not, it's a good episode.

00:30:25.020 Dude.

00:30:25.160 I do want to ask you both though.

00:30:27.100 There's something that really gets me upset and maybe I'm irrationally upset about this.

00:30:31.440 Maybe, maybe you guys will see this and go, I don't think that's worth being upset about.

00:30:34.980 But it's this thing, like I'll go to pick up my son after school and I'll stand there with, with all the other parents who are waiting for, they call them the walkers, you know, we'll wait for the kids to come walking up.

00:30:44.860 And the amount of adults that show up in pajamas and they have like Ninja Turtle pajamas on and they've got, you know, like oversized graphic tees on and they come out of their house often in their, in their slippers. 0.94

00:31:01.820 Like I, dude, I, I love a good, I'm sure there's some shit in my closet that's kind of goofy like that. 0.74

00:31:06.820 My sneaker collection for a while, I went hard. 0.97

00:31:09.020 I've got all gold Air Maxes. 0.99

00:31:11.760 I've got all kinds of joy and I love those damn things. 0.98

00:31:14.900 I have a pretty cool sneaker collection. 0.99

00:31:17.240 I don't even want to fucking touch it these days. 0.94

00:31:19.460 I got like brown dad shoes, like leather kind of shoes and like a, like a, like a boot. 0.99

00:31:25.220 And that's like the kind of shit that I wear. 0.97

00:31:27.460 And I feel like, I don't know, man, I go out and I, I, especially you take a stroll around Walmart and that'll make you want to bleach your eyeballs because it's nothing but like, that's the epicenter of adult adolescence. 0.99

00:31:38.820 That's like where you go and they're selling all the, the Ninja Turtle graphic tees that are in the adult section. 0.99

00:31:43.800 Do you guys like, are you bothered by that shit when you see it? 0.99

00:31:46.460 Cause I'm, I'm bothered by it. 1.00

00:31:48.160 You know what?

00:31:48.880 Yes. 0.88

00:31:49.020 It's disgusting. 0.57

00:31:50.500 Consciously.

00:31:51.300 And I'm not, I'm not like a big fashion freak, but consciously I have been like, I'll put on like a nice pair of jeans and I'll wear like, I always got one of the tees that I made.

00:31:59.680 So I'll wear it, but I try to like match it with the shoes, like should look presentable, but you're right, man.

00:32:04.300 There's so many people and it is increasing.

00:32:06.020 I worked in elementary school.

00:32:07.400 So I seen, I've seen it.

00:32:09.060 They just like the lack of care.

00:32:11.520 And then this is the generation we're talking about too, right?

00:32:13.940 The nostalgia generation. 0.99

00:32:15.460 It's just like, they don't give a fuck anymore. 0.99

00:32:17.880 They're beat. 1.00

00:32:18.980 24 seven pajamas. 1.00

00:32:20.460 No, my dad used to talk shit on me and my sisters. 0.99

00:32:24.000 Oh, he wouldn't, we would never do it. 0.99

00:32:25.200 He would say, you never go outside in your sweatpants.

00:32:27.560 You know, so I, I just grew up like that, you know, and I, I, I'm not the one to wear a suit.

00:32:32.640 I have worn suits many times for different occasions, but I typically, these days, I like to wear a nice button up shirt.

00:32:38.700 I tuck it in.

00:32:39.240 I wear slacks and I have my, the same pair of Doc Martens. 0.98

00:32:41.820 I wear every fucking day and that's just it. 0.95

00:32:43.700 And I want to be somewhat presentable, but in my own way, you know, I'm not going to go crazy on a suit, but I just feel good wearing that. 0.98

00:32:50.280 And it looks like I want my son and my daughter to look up and be like, oh, mommy and daddy are presentable. 0.98

00:32:55.320 They're not a fucking, like a mess, a schluck out there in the world. 1.00

00:33:00.260 Not a big kid. 0.99

00:33:01.000 You know, there's a difference, right?

00:33:02.060 We're adults.

00:33:02.680 We have responsibilities.

00:33:03.700 We're your authority figures.

00:33:05.300 You know, as much as I want my kids to also be anti-authority, I need them to respect me too.

00:33:09.780 And it's weird line.

00:33:10.620 You got to walk by making them understand that the different thing there.

00:33:14.800 The psychology of that is psychotic because it goes back for so long because at some point I got, you know what, you just convinced me. 0.96

00:33:22.260 I got, I'm going to just buy button up shirts now because at some point my dad, like, and, you know, probably his dad, they just, they just took off the t-shirt and they're like, we got to have at least three buttons on this shit.

00:33:33.660 Like, if they, you know, it's like something, I think three button rule, dude. 0.89

00:33:37.620 Yo, I think dress, dressing like that makes your deviousness as a, someone who wants to subvert society even better.

00:33:45.640 Cause it's like aesthetically people who are not connected to this world at all will look at you a certain way and then I can just, and you fucking subvert them somehow by just like tricking them aesthetically. 0.95

00:33:57.280 Not that I, I, I, you know, I got a lot of tattoos and shit.

00:34:00.340 And so I look a certain way already to certain people, but, uh, I like looking at least more presentable than a lot of people at Walmart. 0.92

00:34:07.600 And, uh, yeah, for, for various reasons though, I, I, I also just like, you know, I have the same fucking type of shirt, the same type of pants, the same boot. 0.75

00:34:15.640 It's very easy. 0.98

00:34:17.400 Shane, it's mostly black. 1.00

00:34:19.100 You should have been, you should have been cast as a, well, fuck that movie. 0.99

00:34:22.460 But if they do decide to make a good movie of it, uh, the man in black from the dark tower series. 0.99

00:34:27.900 Oh yeah.

00:34:28.900 It's like, if, if you just had the hood on, I'd be like, that's the guy.

00:34:32.300 That'd be sick. 0.91

00:34:33.400 That'd be sick. 0.91

00:34:34.140 Oh man.

00:34:34.580 Poor Stephen King.

00:34:35.820 What happened to him?

00:34:37.340 He has to keep selling his soul to make like, cause I mean, what they did to the dark tower series was just awful.

00:34:42.220 It's like, dude, I didn't see it, but, uh, I think,

00:34:45.360 I think when Stephen King got hit by that van, they probably replaced it with a clone.

00:34:50.280 And that's not the Stephen King we knew of back then.

00:34:53.280 He looks like a, that was the end of them.

00:34:55.540 And now we got the new one, you know, like, like the Katy Perry version.

00:34:58.200 They're not very good clones.

00:34:59.700 He does.

00:35:00.180 He looks like a, like a cat that's been shaved, you know,

00:35:03.420 there's something like Elon Musk gave him a blue check Mark and won't like, won't redact it.

00:35:08.580 Like you won't see, he's continuously funding, uh, uh, his, his blue check Mark.

00:35:12.880 And it was really weird too, because you see these characters that they pump their fists

00:35:16.060 and they're like, I'm leaving this platform. 1.00

00:35:17.660 This platform is filled with white supremacists and, and fucking homophobes and all this. 1.00

00:35:22.300 And then they never go anywhere. 1.00

00:35:23.460 And he's like king of those people, which is such a bummer because, you know,

00:35:27.540 as far as his books and his films go, uh, you know, especially back in the day,

00:35:31.540 like he couldn't miss, he couldn't miss. 0.72

00:35:33.500 And now he's fucking missing hard constantly culturally, you know, Hollywood wise, he's 0.97

00:35:37.940 just missing. 0.98

00:35:39.040 Yeah.

00:35:39.900 He sees, he, I think he, he sees monsters and things that were from his books and he

00:35:44.980 puts them now on people that he just can't wrap his head around.

00:35:47.860 Like Trump is like an it character to him, but he's so lost in his own fiction.

00:35:52.960 He can't differentiate between that in the real world.

00:35:55.600 And, uh, there's no getting him back.

00:35:57.720 You know, he's, he's, he's completely lost and it's sad because he's a great writer.

00:36:01.860 He's someone I looked up to for a long time.

00:36:03.600 I was just like on a technical level of like sentences, great writer, great stories, great

00:36:08.920 ideas. 0.99

00:36:09.620 Oh shit. 1.00

00:36:10.140 I love that book. 1.00

00:36:10.880 It's like having a friend talk to you when you're deeply in trouble with a story. 0.99

00:36:14.880 You don't know what the fuck to do. 0.83

00:36:15.660 It's like, I go to that book and I still will, but, uh, man, yeah, overall, he's just a 0.99

00:36:20.400 decaying version of his former self.

00:36:22.140 No, I like, uh, Shane, you're, Oh, go ahead.

00:36:26.080 Tap.

00:36:26.580 I just, I like the idea that it's not him.

00:36:28.220 Like I could live with that idea where if he's telling myself that I have to tell myself

00:36:32.800 that to be okay with it.

00:36:33.880 That's like, Steven wouldn't say that he wouldn't tweet that.

00:36:36.600 No, I know Steven.

00:36:41.140 Shane.

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00:37:11.540 One of the things that I'm most fond of that, that, that you do is the Inverted World series.

00:37:16.780 And, uh, because that's right up our alley.

00:37:18.840 Um, and I just always think that with everybody who, who puts one foot in the supernatural realm,

00:37:26.620 who, who makes these things sort of there in your particular case, you've made it your

00:37:30.420 business in a lot of ways, right?

00:37:32.580 Um, there's always gotta be something that, that brought that person to the table.

00:37:37.160 Um, I know myself, I've got a bunch of weird experiences.

00:37:39.860 Um, do you have any like personal experiences or was it just things that you saw or heard

00:37:44.900 and wanted answers for that brought you to the table?

00:37:47.380 I'd, I'd like to hear about what piqued your interest in the first place. 0.99

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00:37:53.880 Cause he probably knows that like fully crazy cause there's, you know, there's levels. 0.99

00:37:58.700 Oh yeah.

00:37:59.340 Tim, we've hung out, we've hung out.

00:38:01.400 There's many, many times. 1.00

00:38:02.780 And I say crazy shit. 0.99

00:38:04.220 He knows like, well, him and I were, we were in, uh, I forget where I think we were in North 1.00

00:38:09.460 Carolina and we were, went to go look at bears.

00:38:11.720 And I, and when bear finally came out and I was like, yo, dude, that bear is fake as

00:38:16.520 a person in a bear suit.

00:38:18.440 And like, I know he, he knows like he, he's laughing and I'm like, I wonder if he knows

00:38:23.240 like, um, I'm also serious.

00:38:24.460 Like, cause I'm being, I'm being serious, but I'm also being funny.

00:38:28.880 He's the type of dude that like, I feel like he wouldn't let it fly.

00:38:31.520 Like in, even just in casual conversation and be like, well, actually, actually no.

00:38:35.480 For, for whatever reason, he lets me get away with it.

00:38:38.160 You know, some, well, he does push back sometimes like on, on the, on IRL a few times I was on

00:38:43.460 like maybe a few, three times ago.

00:38:45.480 I, I, I told him my theory about clouds.

00:38:48.100 I said fake clouds are fake.

00:38:49.560 You know, there's obviously vintage and I'll get, I'll get to the question in a minute,

00:38:52.680 but I was like, there's obviously vintage clouds.

00:38:54.800 There's, there's those vintage clouds are real clouds.

00:38:57.340 Okay.

00:38:57.680 We can get around that.

00:38:58.480 But then there's those vintage clouds were also turning into poisonous clouds because

00:39:01.800 there's poison in all the water and they evaporate up into the sky.

00:39:04.820 So they're poison, raining poison on us.

00:39:06.360 But then there's also fake clouds that are coming out of the chemtrails that expand like

00:39:10.880 the fake spiderwebs from spirit Halloween and they drop more poison on us.

00:39:14.720 And he's like, well, I just think clouds are evaporation.

00:39:17.520 I'm like, yes, that is the original clouds, but there's also like two other types of clouds.

00:39:23.020 Um, in categories.

00:39:23.920 So yes, yes.

00:39:25.060 What you just said right there is not, is not to me.

00:39:28.100 I'm like, whoa, I'm like, yeah, that's totally reasonable.

00:39:30.960 Yeah.

00:39:31.200 It's very reasonable.

00:39:32.260 Thank you.

00:39:32.760 Thank you.

00:39:33.100 But yeah, no, he, he knows that this is how I am.

00:39:35.960 It's pretty like this since day one, since the first day we met, I will not filter myself.

00:39:41.000 He can, I love it when he disagrees because it makes me question my own stance and I have

00:39:45.100 to make it better or change it up if I, if he's found a weak part in my argument, but

00:39:50.540 yeah, he lets me go crazy.

00:39:51.660 And, uh, I appreciate that.

00:39:53.320 And, uh, in terms of me and this is going to segue back into the question, I think I'm

00:39:58.540 like that because I grew up all alone in the middle of a forest with no neighbors, you

00:40:03.920 know, I had two little sisters. 0.96

00:40:07.580 Well, fake bears, perhaps fake coyotes, fake bears.

00:40:12.020 You see, okay, I, I was for whatever reason, not for whatever reason, this is, this is

00:40:17.580 actually for a reason.

00:40:18.800 I, I grew up on a farm right outside of a military base in New York and West point.

00:40:24.500 So that's the United States, uh, military Academy.

00:40:28.180 And it's my, the property I grew up on was owned by them.

00:40:31.840 And it's like a giant 200 acres that my parents who were harness heart, like harness

00:40:38.160 racers, like they sat in a sulky and race horses when that business dried up, tiny, they

00:40:44.840 were itty bitty.

00:40:46.160 Like, yeah, I'm, I'm the Nephilim to them. 0.99

00:40:49.700 Actually, look at this, look at this fucking forehead. 0.99

00:40:55.280 No, you have to be a jockey when you're riding on the horse. 0.99

00:40:58.020 This is, uh, when you're behind the horse in a, in one of those buggies that with the

00:41:01.540 wheels.

00:41:01.880 Okay.

00:41:02.400 So they would, you know, so that business died.

00:41:05.520 Go figure. 0.99

00:41:06.240 And, uh, like nobody even knows what this shit is right now. 0.99

00:41:09.760 Right. 0.99

00:41:10.280 Right.

00:41:10.720 And, uh, they got a job at this farm to coach a team.

00:41:15.240 So we were put there when I was one.

00:41:17.240 And, uh, from literally like my earliest memories are being like, I think we're being experimented

00:41:24.380 on.

00:41:24.840 I don't know why I thought that, but I was like, there's a, I grew up literally at the

00:41:28.300 base of a landfill, a capped landfill.

00:41:30.580 So it was like a beautiful green Hill, but just beneath the surface was a landfill and it

00:41:35.420 was a cat.

00:41:35.840 So like, yeah, so it had like, it had, this is why my forehead looks like this.

00:41:41.320 Yeah.

00:41:41.460 This is a story.

00:41:42.360 Wait, why haven't you read this? 0.99

00:41:43.460 This is a fiction novel of a kid growing up in a fucking UFO spot. 0.95

00:41:47.820 This is, I know I should, I have, I had written about it for a long time and no one's ever 0.95

00:41:52.680 seen most of it, but, uh, I will at some point, like we, we grew up, we grew up like when

00:41:57.160 it rained, uh, red water would leak out of the landfill past my house, but yo, but yo,

00:42:04.720 it sounds like dystopian, but it was like the most beautiful place.

00:42:08.040 Like it's, you know, the country of New York, however, yes, it was like the landfill was

00:42:14.420 bleeding, oozing chemical.

00:42:16.380 But like from an early age, I was just like, I feel like I would tell my parents this.

00:42:21.180 I said, I think there's people in the landfill watching us.

00:42:24.480 And, uh, I don't know, there might've been, I, I felt like, I felt like we had been put

00:42:29.900 there as like a nuclear family to see how the government could tweak us, you know?

00:42:35.100 So the forest then, uh, started to create a lot of weird things that might just be normal,

00:42:40.520 you know, bears are fake bears in the woods or who knows what, but that started to get

00:42:45.720 my imagination really going.

00:42:47.000 Cause I would, um, I didn't have a lot of friends, uh, another thing shocking, but like

00:42:51.720 all also like being at a military base and me being the only civilian, everyone I knew

00:42:56.100 would move every three to four years.

00:42:57.640 So it was kind of like constantly alone and making new friends and then they leave.

00:43:02.720 That was it.

00:43:03.460 You realize that you're, you're like, what you just described to us.

00:43:06.800 Sometimes I think about you and I say like, how did he get to where, not like, like,

00:43:10.520 in your career, like, how do you get there mentally?

00:43:12.860 Cause you're doing something different than, than most people.

00:43:15.200 And it was like, you're telling me so.

00:43:16.420 I'm like, yep, yep.

00:43:17.500 Exactly.

00:43:18.000 There it is. 0.98

00:43:18.680 If I would have made it up, like you would have said, Oh, that's fucking crazy to say 0.96

00:43:22.700 that he, like, you just made that up. 0.94

00:43:24.720 Exactly what I thought.

00:43:26.280 Yeah.

00:43:26.620 Have you listened to the latest episodes of Tony Merkel show?

00:43:30.140 He's had a couple of people on.

00:43:31.620 I haven't.

00:43:32.120 No.

00:43:32.380 Okay.

00:43:32.980 He's been big on, you know, he loves dog, man.

00:43:35.480 Right.

00:43:35.800 Always big on dog.

00:43:36.640 Of course.

00:43:37.420 Yeah.

00:43:37.560 He's getting into the, uh, why are there,

00:43:40.380 there's so many cryptid sightings or things like that next to government bases?

00:43:44.940 Are they so glad you said that.

00:43:46.920 And yeah, cause you're talking about fake bears by your house, right outside of government

00:43:49.960 bases.

00:43:50.400 Like maybe.

00:43:51.960 So I was thinking of fake bears because really what I was thinking before that was, uh,

00:43:59.000 Harry and the Hendersons and Sasquatch, like Bigfoot.

00:44:02.320 Right.

00:44:02.600 And that image of Harry, even though it was like a lighthearted movie or TV show, or both.

00:44:07.840 Horrifying.

00:44:08.340 It horrified me.

00:44:10.620 Right.

00:44:11.040 And I had a lot of chores.

00:44:12.620 I had a lot of chores, you know, and I, my, we had a dumpster because they never came

00:44:16.980 from garbage.

00:44:17.660 Go fetch red water.

00:44:18.980 No.

00:44:19.440 So I had to walk into the woods at night to throw away the garbage.

00:44:23.040 And I was like, at any minute, Sasquatch was going to hop out of these trees and that's

00:44:27.180 it.

00:44:27.340 I'm done.

00:44:28.200 You know, take, he's going to take me away.

00:44:29.700 So that, yeah.

00:44:30.740 All those things.

00:44:31.680 Let me just say every day I let my chickens in, I got to go back that way.

00:44:36.160 Cause they're like in the back and it's dark and I'm out there with a flashlight and I always

00:44:40.420 shine the back of my property.

00:44:41.500 Cause like the back of it is like nothing. 0.99

00:44:43.800 And I was like, I'm going to see a fucking dog man here one day. 0.99

00:44:46.560 And I don't know what I'm going to do. 0.99

00:44:48.400 You might.

00:44:48.700 Or a skunkie out here in Florida. 0.99

00:44:50.340 That's the thing.

00:44:50.920 Skunkie.

00:44:51.960 But the tension is palpable.

00:44:54.000 I understand.

00:44:54.880 You're walking into the darkness.

00:44:56.860 And as a kid, it's probably worse.

00:44:57.900 But like, for me, I'm like, it's all right.

00:44:59.980 But I'm like looking.

00:45:00.860 Yeah.

00:45:01.460 Yeah.

00:45:01.840 As a kid, all alone with a crazy schizophrenic imagination, the forest became a character.

00:45:08.680 And that's where all of these things started for me.

00:45:11.000 I would be thinking about, I also was watching like, oh shoot, Unsolved Mysteries.

00:45:18.360 Right. 0.62

00:45:18.500 And Robert Stack's voice would freak the shit out of me alone. 0.90

00:45:22.180 Just his voice.

00:45:23.060 Right.

00:45:23.480 So then I'd apply that into the, into the woods and the woods just seemed to be populated

00:45:27.440 with a lot of like monsters that I couldn't see, but I felt like I knew were there.

00:45:31.520 And also real things that I knew were dangerous, like coyotes and wolves, because as a farm,

00:45:36.840 we had ducks and a petting zoo for people.

00:45:39.400 And I had to wake up and see those things get, they were ripped to shreds the night before

00:45:43.480 by the hungry coyotes.

00:45:44.620 And I had to clean up blood and feathers and all this stuff.

00:45:47.320 And, you know, I was introduced to death at a very young age because.

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00:46:19.660 Animals die.

00:46:20.960 And this is before we even had like a backhoe.

00:46:23.880 We had to dig graves ourselves for the horses.

00:46:27.580 So like I had a weird...

00:46:28.620 It's just you digging graves.

00:46:29.960 Me as like a two-year-old be like, oh, here we go again.

00:46:32.580 You know, I know you've probably explained this away as like, like you're saying, unsolved

00:46:41.220 mysteries and seeing the death of animals.

00:46:44.220 But there has to be a part of you that goes, that is a very specific suspicion for a child

00:46:50.220 to have is that you're being experimented.

00:46:53.000 And I'm sure it wasn't that well thought out.

00:46:54.920 But it was this feeling of like, you know, something else is going on or that you're a

00:46:59.280 part of something.

00:47:00.040 Uh, that's a very strange thing for a kid to lock into.

00:47:04.500 I, I, I joke about it a lot on different shows or in conversation when I say like, I've always

00:47:09.980 been paranoid, but like, literally it's not, it's not a joke.

00:47:12.300 I've literally always been paranoid, whether it's about me and like, just how flawed a human

00:47:18.240 is and like disease.

00:47:19.820 Like I was afraid of disease as a little kid, not like I was OCD about it, but I was just

00:47:23.620 like, I'm going to go at any minute.

00:47:25.620 Some crazy disease is going to take me over.

00:47:27.460 And I would make my mom take me to the doctor and he'd be like, that's not cancer.

00:47:31.820 That's just a lymph node. 0.75

00:47:33.120 You're going to be all right.

00:47:33.820 Like I just had like weird things like, and then also, but about like authorities, you

00:47:39.000 know, at a very young age, when my mom told me what a social security card was, I literally

00:47:43.100 cried to her because I was like, why do they have a number for me?

00:47:45.840 I think that's really bothered me.

00:47:47.860 So I don't, I don't know what, I don't know what happened.

00:47:51.060 It's sensible.

00:47:52.100 It's super sensible.

00:47:53.740 Like, yeah, I think so.

00:47:54.800 Grown adults don't feel that way.

00:47:56.900 But honestly, when you explained it that way, I do now.

00:47:59.700 I kind of feel sad.

00:48:01.240 Yeah, it was.

00:48:02.000 It really, really bothered me.

00:48:03.600 Like what you were experiencing wasn't so much, you know, being hyperbolic, but more

00:48:10.780 so the inability to just gloss over a thing and keep it moving.

00:48:16.180 You know what I mean?

00:48:16.720 Like, I think that there's a lot of that in society where it's like, you know, I'm a

00:48:21.380 conspiracy theorist, right?

00:48:22.480 And you could certainly call me paranoid and my brain goes to all these different places.

00:48:27.760 But the fundamental reason that my brain goes to all these places is because I'm just trying

00:48:31.720 to make sense of things that otherwise don't make sense.

00:48:34.040 And everybody else seems really good at just going, eh, it is what it is.

00:48:37.740 And I'm not satisfied with that.

00:48:39.720 People from the country, all, not all, but they all have this, they don't, they don't 1.00

00:48:44.380 all think this way, but they all have this inquisitive nature about them.

00:48:47.260 Like where if you actually sit down, they want to, they want to paint, since I've been,

00:48:50.980 since I've been moving here, I mean, it's like deep country accents.

00:48:53.820 Some of these people, they'll, they're using phrases and shit that I don't even, 0.73

00:48:57.060 I'm not familiar with. 0.98

00:48:59.100 Boy.

00:49:00.520 Yeah.

00:49:00.980 Come on.

00:49:01.220 Yeah.

00:49:01.340 We're going to go, go y'all down there over there.

00:49:03.560 And I'm talking with them, but they all have this inquisitive nature of asking from the

00:49:08.840 city where I was at.

00:49:10.140 It's like, nobody was asking.

00:49:12.840 No one was even.

00:49:13.500 Yes.

00:49:13.900 Exactly. 0.96

00:49:14.880 I don't know how the fuck I got this mindset, but I think it's something to do with like, 0.98

00:49:19.220 maybe like the rays that they're fucking shining down to control your mind. 0.98

00:49:22.600 It's only can go on the city. 0.86

00:49:23.960 I think, I think that's totally true.

00:49:28.260 And I think for me, I'm thinking about this more like why the paranoia or me seeing beyond

00:49:33.180 the facade of reality happened so early on is probably, I'm going to try to psychoanalyze

00:49:38.140 myself.

00:49:38.820 I was alone in the woods.

00:49:40.140 I was the only person at school who lived in the woods and I would go every day to school

00:49:45.440 and be confronted with people who live in like a separate reality.

00:49:48.340 Right.

00:49:48.800 So, and then every day I'm coming home and it's not just that it's like, I'm civilian

00:49:52.300 and they're military.

00:49:53.160 You know, I'm digging horse graves on the weekend and riding horses.

00:49:57.000 They're playing Ninja Turtles, you know, which I wish I could have done, but I just didn't

00:50:00.740 have that life.

00:50:01.320 Right.

00:50:01.620 And I was fairly poor growing up.

00:50:04.680 I didn't have a internet until I was in college.

00:50:06.840 I didn't have a TV with a lot of channels, but then my friends had all that.

00:50:10.800 I didn't have air conditioning.

00:50:11.740 They did, you know?

00:50:12.900 So it was like a lot of things were like every day I'm confronted with like the difference

00:50:16.320 between me and them and the world they're going through and the world I'm going through.

00:50:19.880 And then on top of that, uh, to make things even weirder since the property was owned

00:50:25.520 by the military Academy every summer, since I was one, helicopters would land in my yard

00:50:31.640 and the soldiers would jump out.

00:50:37.180 So, so soldiers would jump out and then play a simulated war all summer long in my, in my

00:50:44.800 yard, in my woods that I knew very well.

00:50:46.720 So like, that's why whenever I talk about my idea of the simulation, it's probably born

00:50:50.860 from them watching adults with guns with, but playing like, um, basically laser tag and

00:50:58.260 what with like bombs that are exploding all summer long.

00:51:01.740 And then I would be in those wars.

00:51:03.400 I'd go watch them. 1.00

00:51:04.360 So it's like, I'm experiencing a lot of fake shit. 1.00

00:51:07.240 That's also very real amongst all of all my own personal fake shit. 0.99

00:51:11.400 That's also real, you know, depending on what, who I'm with. 0.98

00:51:13.620 So, you know, it's really, I'm getting this image of Shane just standing on the edge of

00:51:18.740 the forest.

00:51:19.200 Like there's explosions and gunfire and he's just staring into the dark woods with a glass 0.98

00:51:24.100 of red water, just fucking shaking. 0.95

00:51:27.140 So I would, I would actually, I would get, uh, I would, I would watch them land and I 0.98

00:51:33.180 would follow them secretly to their base that they would build in the woods.

00:51:36.960 And then I knew that they were being trained.

00:51:39.060 This is by the time I'm like 10 or 11 by older guys, the 10th mountain division.

00:51:43.100 And I'd wait for the 10th mountain guys to come and I'd say, I know where they are, but

00:51:47.660 I have to hold your grenade launcher and I want to ride in the Humvee and I want candy.

00:51:52.460 And I swear to God.

00:51:53.340 And this is what I would do all summer long.

00:51:55.660 Oh, they love it. 0.99

00:51:56.600 I feel like I fucking like this kid. 0.98

00:51:57.760 No, it was dope because I think it kind of mimics whatever they'd go do overseas with 1.00

00:52:02.160 some poor kid, you know, be like, Oh, those fuckers over there. 1.00

00:52:04.760 They'd shoot him right after them. 1.00

00:52:06.780 Yeah.

00:52:07.280 You can actually understand this one.

00:52:09.100 And they drop the drone.

00:52:11.580 Like, Oh my God.

00:52:12.860 Yeah.

00:52:13.100 When I, when I turn around actually to go back home, they stimulate me shooting me.

00:52:18.360 It's like, wrap it up.

00:52:20.960 I like the idea that Shane Cashman has like a government file of people studying him for

00:52:27.160 38 years now.

00:52:28.360 And they're like, what happens to a kid if we do this to him?

00:52:31.520 And then like at the very end of like this multi-million dollar study, they're like, he

00:52:35.260 ends up writing for Tim cast or something.

00:52:39.860 They were trying to create a multiple personality disorder and they just could, it just became

00:52:45.580 a writer.

00:52:46.160 That was the outlet.

00:52:47.080 It's like, if you don't write the books, the other voices are going off.

00:52:49.900 Shane, I want to ask you in your family.

00:52:52.580 Uh, is there any history of like that, that level of mental illness?

00:52:57.180 Uh, cause cause I have people that are close to me that are actually diagnosed.

00:53:02.060 Yeah.

00:53:02.620 Yeah.

00:53:03.060 Yeah.

00:53:03.180 Yeah.

00:53:03.760 Diagnosed.

00:53:04.360 Shane, it bothers me. 0.99

00:53:06.020 It bothers me when you say schizo, that you're schizophrenic.

00:53:08.660 That is like, we're going to have on Jerry Marzinski soon.

00:53:11.340 And you should check him out.

00:53:12.600 He goes deep into like schizophrenia.

00:53:13.980 Um, it's, I feel like it's one of those words that people use to like slur, slur you.

00:53:19.880 Oh, I don't think just, Oh, I should.

00:53:21.880 Yeah, no, I should say I, I have, I had very good friends who are schizophrenic.

00:53:27.000 And to me, they're the most beautiful, like, uh, poets who are, who are connected to a higher

00:53:32.360 meaning and who just have a hard time with their messaging.

00:53:35.820 Right. 0.91

00:53:36.220 Like I would follow around this one schizophrenic.

00:53:38.500 I lived in this crazy town, uh, in my twenties and him and I just became, I would say I was

00:53:43.820 his friend.

00:53:44.400 I don't know if he would, every day was different for him, but, uh, he would, he was saying things

00:53:49.200 back then.

00:53:49.780 This is 15 years ago that are resonating with me today.

00:53:52.700 That made no sense to me then.

00:53:54.280 Right.

00:53:54.800 It's probably how we feel when we talk about lizard people to someone, you know, and maybe

00:53:59.000 10 years from now, it might finally click in their brains.

00:54:01.700 But yeah, when I say schizo, I do mean it as like, it's kind of a beautiful thing.

00:54:05.500 There is schizophrenia in my family.

00:54:07.080 I have not been diagnosed, although I probably should have been diagnosed for other things mentally

00:54:11.180 in terms of like crazy anxiety and, uh, paranoia, but, uh, I've been hopefully channeling it

00:54:17.140 to some degree through my writing, but yeah, there's schizophrenia on, on part of my family.

00:54:21.480 One of those guys has been in jail his whole life.

00:54:24.100 I've actually never met him.

00:54:25.160 He's been in jail for, he got out of jail once and he, he's probably 60 now.

00:54:30.340 He got in jail for like a lot of carjackings and stuff.

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00:54:59.560 When he got out the last time, he then held up his brother with a samurai sword.

00:55:06.900 It was a big noose in Florida.

00:55:08.920 Uh, that was probably late nineties, early 2000s.

00:55:11.440 Yeah, I don't know.

00:55:11.920 Hard a man, hard a man, hard a man with a samurai sword.

00:55:14.860 And then, and then when my grandfather died, so this would be my like second cousin, I guess

00:55:20.640 you'd say, uh, or great cousin.

00:55:22.900 He's my great aunt's, uh, son.

00:55:24.880 But anyway, when my grandfather died, he broke out of his mental institution.

00:55:29.560 And tried, that was in California to try to come to the funeral. 0.96

00:55:32.260 And he tried robbing a bank with a note that said, um, I'm going to kill the president of 0.77

00:55:37.040 the United States if you don't give me money, uh, for like a bus ticket.

00:55:40.060 But like, there's also varying types of schizophrenia.

00:55:43.480 He was probably more of the violent kind.

00:55:45.940 Uh, the ones I knew were not violent.

00:55:48.340 They weren't a threat to anybody.

00:55:49.620 They just sounded like a, like a madman, like a prophet from the Bible.

00:55:53.240 In my opinion, you know, that's getting a type of information that makes no sense to

00:55:57.080 the normal person out here.

00:55:58.620 But I honestly learned a lot about language, reality, the government, uh, you know, what

00:56:05.640 schizophrenia was in terms of what they were obsessed with, which was like power, sex and

00:56:10.320 war, you know?

00:56:11.480 And, uh, that's, that's everything in this world that people like to deny or death to

00:56:16.260 they people, most people like don't want to even talk about those things openly, but the

00:56:20.260 schizophrenic, like the kind I knew, uh, that's all they want to talk about.

00:56:24.280 And it was like, they had no filter, uh, kind of like top, not saying it's schizo, but, uh,

00:56:28.300 there is no filter.

00:56:29.340 I think that's beautiful.

00:56:30.340 I think it's a beautiful thing.

00:56:31.780 Um, so yeah, I think, uh, yeah, that's probably the only thing diagnosed in my family.

00:56:37.800 Uh, and you know, I, there was a point between like my late teens and late twenties when

00:56:43.000 schizophrenia does supposedly really pop up where I'm like, Oh, I'm starting to, I do sound

00:56:48.540 insane, you know, but, uh, I never went to the doctor.

00:56:51.820 I, you know, I stopped going to real doctors and I started going to shamans, uh, a long

00:56:55.320 time ago and, uh, they, they're, they were very nice to me and they didn't, they didn't

00:56:59.620 commit me anywhere.

00:57:00.780 What kind of shamans are you going to?

00:57:03.120 Because well, like capital building shamans or no, my wife, my wife is a nurse, RN registered

00:57:09.040 nurse worked in the hospital and now she only sees like holistic doctors, like, or doctors 0.99

00:57:13.740 like she doesn't fuck with any of them anymore. 0.96

00:57:15.420 Um, yeah, I mean, I, that's not to say I don't fully, uh, divorce myself from Western 0.99

00:57:21.160 medicine because clearly there's some good there, but on a whole, uh, I, I prefer like

00:57:26.100 to try holistic methods before I go there.

00:57:28.580 I don't take pills, right? 0.99

00:57:29.920 I'm not trying to do that shit. 0.99

00:57:31.580 Uh, so the shaman I saw who's now deceased rest, rest in peace, Harry Abbey. 0.99

00:57:36.040 He was in Scranton, Pennsylvania.

00:57:38.040 Uh, he was a dude, I forget where in Africa, but he was like this African dude who, uh, wore

00:57:44.200 like, but he wore just like slacks and a button up shirt and he was, he pushed demons out of

00:57:49.060 me that he said were in there for the first time.

00:57:51.080 This is 20 years ago for the first visit.

00:57:53.040 And, uh, I went there first to cure allergies that my doctor kept giving me pills for back

00:57:58.600 then.

00:57:58.960 This is before I knew any better and they were doing nothing.

00:58:01.420 I actually could feel like the nasal spray has given me like a road, my esophagus or

00:58:05.220 something.

00:58:05.320 It was just like this chemical burn. 1.00

00:58:07.220 I was like, this is fucking stupid. 1.00

00:58:08.620 I'm not going to this guy anymore. 1.00

00:58:10.880 And then my mom was like, I have a friend whose breast cancer was cured by a shaman.

00:58:15.980 And I was like, well, if he could cure breast cancer, he could totally cure my allergies.

00:58:18.840 Like God, like that's easy.

00:58:19.960 So I went to him.

00:58:21.080 He did like some weird things.

00:58:22.360 He like counted like something with my blood.

00:58:25.540 Uh, he would listen to my heartbeat and count it and then gave me this weird regimen.

00:58:31.060 And, uh, I swear to you, my allergies were gone like before the end of that week.

00:58:35.460 And so me and him had a great relationship after that.

00:58:37.740 And, uh, there's a few other things I was going to him for my anxiety, which is better

00:58:41.940 now, but I still have it.

00:58:43.160 And, uh, he died before that, before that treatment ended.

00:58:47.040 So it's this weird thing.

00:58:48.360 That's a whole other story.

00:58:49.420 But, uh, yeah, I don't know what he would consider himself treatment.

00:58:52.900 It's a crazy story.

00:58:53.920 Yeah.

00:58:54.220 And, uh, he was a great, great guy.

00:58:56.280 And, uh, but he also considered himself Christian.

00:58:58.780 He was Christian, man.

00:59:00.000 Uh, he sang in a choir, uh, but he had this really thick accent and he had a wall of herbs

00:59:05.140 behind him.

00:59:06.160 My wife, I brought her to him and, uh, he was great.

00:59:09.600 And now it's like, I just believe if you want to find a shaman, it has to be word of

00:59:13.340 mouth.

00:59:13.960 Like, honestly, when top, when we did the QAnon shaman episode, I'm like, Oh, maybe this

00:59:18.980 is my new shaman.

00:59:20.280 Cause I'm like, cause I need, I need a new one.

00:59:23.160 Uh, cause it's people who openly like advertise as shamans.

00:59:27.400 I'm just like, I don't trust that either. 0.99

00:59:28.740 I'm not going to go to some, you know, lady in a fucking muumuu, you know, in her basement 1.00

00:59:34.280 who says she's a shaman. 1.00

00:59:36.540 Psychics, right?

00:59:37.120 It's like, I don't want a psychic that tells me they're a psychic.

00:59:39.460 I want like that person that you always hear stories.

00:59:41.720 Like they won't even accept money.

00:59:42.760 Like you got to know them personally or know somebody that knows them personally.

00:59:46.360 Like they got to want to talk to you.

00:59:48.460 Yeah.

00:59:48.720 They have to want to talk to you.

00:59:49.720 Exactly.

00:59:50.140 Like if I don't, if I walk past a psychic and they don't go like David, like that,

00:59:54.360 I don't want, I don't want to do with you. 0.98

00:59:55.800 If I walk by and I look at you and you don't fucking know what's going on, I don't want 0.99

00:59:59.040 anything to do with you. 0.98

00:59:59.560 It's like one in a million people and you're like, I just fucking got to walk around this 0.98

01:00:03.160 whole city. 0.98

01:00:04.140 This is crazy.

01:00:04.760 I was in New Orleans and it was just like that. 0.99

01:00:06.520 I'm walking past like a hundred fucking psychics and none of them called me out. 1.00

01:00:09.300 So I was like, fuck you guys. 1.00

01:00:10.400 I did end up going to one guy and he, you know, he was pretty cool, but definitely none 1.00

01:00:14.340 of them called me out.

01:00:15.160 None of them said anything that was profound.

01:00:17.220 You know, somebody in the chat actually just said that they mentioned my last episode and

01:00:22.360 the last episode that I did was with a guy named Sublime.

01:00:24.540 He opened up a, uh, uh, a church in Alberta, Canada, and he told me this really interesting

01:00:31.420 story about how, uh, medicine men get to be medicine men.

01:00:36.180 And I, I wasn't aware of this.

01:00:37.740 I, I, he was like, do you know how they, how they come to be?

01:00:40.160 And I was like, is it one of those things where you have to like betray somebody really

01:00:43.960 close to you, a loved one.

01:00:44.980 And that's actually a skin Walker. 0.90

01:00:46.740 And I think it's like betrayal on like a murderous level.

01:00:49.000 Uh, but, but a medicine man, what happens is they actually go out like into, uh, the desert

01:00:55.700 and they, they walk for, I think it's four days.

01:00:59.680 They, they starve themselves, they dehydrate themselves and they call in spirits as they're

01:01:06.140 walking around.

01:01:07.800 And, um, and they say like the first few days on the periphery, there are like shadows moving

01:01:12.780 and you might hear some growls.

01:01:14.140 Um, that kind of activity gets to be more so and more so as the days go on right now,

01:01:19.560 you're experiencing sleep deprivation and, and all these different things.

01:01:23.200 Um, and eventually these entities will, will show themselves to you and you invite them 0.97

01:01:30.020 in, uh, and then, and so I'm like, Oh, so the fucking medicine men are possessed is what 0.99

01:01:34.060 you're saying. 0.98

01:01:34.740 And, and I thought that that was wild because it's like, it, it's the inversion of, uh, Christ's

01:01:41.880 temptation in the desert, right?

01:01:43.740 Like, you know, uh, Satan is offering him all these various things and Christ's like, 1.00

01:01:48.860 nah, bitch, I'm good. 0.99

01:01:49.700 And he keeps it walking. 1.00

01:01:50.860 And in the end, you know, he overcomes Satan's temptation.

01:01:53.640 And, uh, but in this aspect, if you want the powers of the medicine and you, you mirror

01:01:57.960 Christ's journey, but then in the end you turn yourself over and allow the entity in. 0.96

01:02:02.100 And I was like, holy shit, that's a, a wild thing. 0.83

01:02:04.280 It always seems to be in these realms, like this inversion of things, you know, uh, inverted 0.98

01:02:08.300 world.

01:02:08.660 Right.

01:02:08.800 And so that's right.

01:02:10.840 That's wild.

01:02:11.460 I didn't know that.

01:02:12.480 And it's crazy.

01:02:13.180 So it's like, I mean, this stuff is legitimate.

01:02:15.700 It's just like, which side of the spectrum are they coming from with that?

01:02:19.640 That's a, that could be a little tricky, but then again, it's like, there's so many, I

01:02:23.260 I'm of the belief that there's not like one low, lowercase G God.

01:02:27.780 There's like a lot, you know?

01:02:29.920 So they're walking through, maybe they're just like looking for a suitor, like one of them

01:02:34.120 that's like not completely evil, but how can you tell?

01:02:36.400 Yeah.

01:02:37.220 Yeah.

01:02:38.220 Yeah.

01:02:38.520 It's the same rules as like the vampire, right?

01:02:40.340 You have to, you have to invite them in.

01:02:41.960 And I believe that too.

01:02:43.020 There are a plethora of, of, of lowercase Gs.

01:02:46.580 Um, but so, so you have these experiences and, and it, it sounds like you really don't

01:02:51.960 have to have more justification than that.

01:02:54.180 Living on this military base, being subjected to this high level, uh, uh, you know, uh, sort

01:03:00.280 of military exercises, uh, and I guess that does end up feeding into your paranoia, but

01:03:06.700 by now you've developed this, you know, this body of work, um, and you've been subjected

01:03:12.580 to a lot of people's stories.

01:03:15.360 Um, I just want to say for a second, uh, I know you were with Alex, right?

01:03:20.220 Like all last week, um, top Alex, the dude that was just at Hillary Clinton's, uh, you

01:03:27.580 know, where she's, she's speaking on behalf.

01:03:29.360 She's endorsing somebody for like a governor or something like that.

01:03:32.360 And he stands up and he goes, why was your husband on Jeffrey Epstein's plane 26 times?

01:03:38.840 And then he, dude, it's the greatest thing.

01:03:41.440 Since Alex is a beast of a man.

01:03:44.060 He is absolutely massive.

01:03:46.640 And what he does is he stands up and he goes, why was your husband on Jeffrey Epstein's private

01:03:52.600 jet 26 times?

01:03:53.840 Why?

01:03:54.300 And he's screaming and, you know, security mobs him and, and, you know, he's not out to

01:04:00.220 hurt anybody, but he is out to, to give them a hard time.

01:04:03.340 So this dude, this, this mountain of a man drops his body weight and just makes them drag 1.00

01:04:08.980 him out of this fucking hole on his back. 1.00

01:04:11.560 They're tearing his shirt and all that shit. 1.00

01:04:13.580 But, but one of the things that Alex does is he's out there doing God's work. 1.00

01:04:18.260 He, he will, um, entrap pedophiles.

01:04:22.320 And then all of a sudden, when they, when they sign up to meet up with some young girl or

01:04:26.640 young boy or whatever,

01:04:27.360 I saw him with him, you were taking, what's Shane doing?

01:04:33.220 Yo, this is, he's a hero.

01:04:35.880 Yo, that, I think this is like the most important story in my opinion I've ever written.

01:04:40.460 Like I, I love Alex and, uh, man, I've actually, it's like, I was like worried to have a conversation

01:04:46.340 on a podcast because I haven't really been right since I've left him.

01:04:49.620 Right.

01:04:50.080 Like, cause you're, I'm serious.

01:04:52.400 You're just talking about, uh, uh, like basically demon possession and like letting these entities

01:04:58.720 in.

01:04:59.320 And I'm literally two, three feet away from these pedophiles as we're capturing them, 1.00

01:05:05.440 looking in their eyes as Alex is questioning them about these fucked up messages. 0.99

01:05:09.540 They've sent a girl they thought was 11 years old. 1.00

01:05:12.180 Right.

01:05:12.620 We did this like three times.

01:05:14.180 Dude, are you carrying or something?

01:05:16.320 Cause that can get real weird.

01:05:18.780 I'm not, I'm not going to answer anyway, one way or the other, but, uh, I, I, I felt fine.

01:05:25.020 Alex is also a giant dude and, uh, he is very, very good at what he does.

01:05:30.560 Um, I just, yeah.

01:05:31.900 So the Clinton thing happened, but I've been watching his stuff for maybe like six months

01:05:35.520 prior and I'm like, there needs to be an army of Alex's out there just catching predators.

01:05:40.540 Right.

01:05:41.220 So he sets up this whole operation to like, he's got decoys, like a woman who poses as 0.87

01:05:46.360 a girl.

01:05:47.100 I saw men, I saw a man literally walk away with someone he thought was 11 years old.

01:05:52.680 Right. 0.97

01:05:53.100 And then we get that guy, we walk him into an empty field and we fucking approach that 0.99

01:05:57.120 guy and talk to him and question him and all this shit. 1.00

01:05:59.640 And, um, that guy shit himself in front of us. 1.00

01:06:02.700 Legit. 1.00

01:06:03.440 Yo.

01:06:03.840 Yo, and like, okay, so two guys, we had two guys arrested, like the cops came and they got

01:06:09.840 them.

01:06:10.280 And, uh, while I'm standing there looking at them, I'm like, yo, these are demons.

01:06:13.820 They're possessed.

01:06:14.640 This is legit evil.

01:06:16.260 Uh, it was like nothing I'd ever experienced.

01:06:19.040 Uh, I'd never heard people talk the way they talk and all the weird logical loopholes while

01:06:24.640 also knowing they've done something wrong.

01:06:26.780 So it's not like they're completely mentally ill and being like, well, this isn't wrong.

01:06:30.560 I just love them. 0.99

01:06:31.200 It's like, they know societally every, in every possible way, this is fucked up and that they've 0.99

01:06:36.300 been caught. 0.99

01:06:36.840 They have to, but they have to, they, they, they can't fucking help it. 0.98

01:06:40.040 They, they go, they go through such extremes into the daylight, into public to do it. 0.96

01:06:47.240 So yeah, I dude, I, I drove home.

01:06:51.220 Like I couldn't believe it.

01:06:52.380 I also didn't want to stop.

01:06:53.600 I also, I almost want to just stay and do it forever with Alex.

01:06:56.400 Right. 0.99

01:06:56.720 I'm like, this is the most important shit. 1.00

01:06:59.140 Uh, and he does it really well. 0.98

01:07:00.260 So I think that story should be done by next week, but man, everyone who's listening, like

01:07:04.640 look up, uh, Alex Rosen, R-O-S-E-N.

01:07:08.460 And, uh, they do for real, the Lord's work.

01:07:12.360 They capture these pedophiles.

01:07:14.320 Some of them who are meeting up with young girls, not women, there's a 25 year old woman

01:07:19.040 posing as a 10 year old girl.

01:07:20.800 Um, some, some of these guys, they're, they're firefighters.

01:07:24.380 The one guy we caught was a firefighter and a firearms instructor.

01:07:26.800 So we just rolled up to, rolled up to his house and we're like, yo, what's up with these

01:07:31.000 messages?

01:07:31.880 Uh, like Alex, no, I didn't.

01:07:36.600 Uh, no, I didn't.

01:07:38.320 What did you see?

01:07:38.960 Only, only Alex.

01:07:40.560 Describe this to me.

01:07:41.940 So, so their eyes shift, right?

01:07:44.320 When people, so like the moment they're exposed, there's a bit of a fear and it's like them

01:07:48.840 working out how to get out of this.

01:07:50.200 Right.

01:07:50.600 It reminded me of catching, of lifting up rocks and catching animals in the woods.

01:07:54.620 Right.

01:07:55.260 And like, there's like a fear where they struggle and then you make them calm.

01:07:58.400 Alex is a really good way of, of walking them through and making like, it almost plays

01:08:01.520 a good cop.

01:08:02.200 So we then can get confessions.

01:08:03.860 Right.

01:08:04.620 So then there's an ease to their eyes or face softens.

01:08:07.900 And then it's like, you forget.

01:08:10.000 Cause we're there for like sometimes an hour or two or three hours talking to these people.

01:08:12.920 You forget why we're even there. 0.95

01:08:13.960 Cause we're talking about some other bullshit, but it's Alex kind of like getting their guard 0.97

01:08:17.580 down to copes out a confession on film. 0.95

01:08:19.840 So, so it goes from like that fear to a struggle, uh, to like very soft, very calm.

01:08:26.120 Shane, these guys just invite you in.

01:08:29.060 That's how like off kilter they are.

01:08:30.700 That dude just like come in my house and talk. 0.97

01:08:33.800 So it depends.

01:08:36.360 It's different every time.

01:08:37.440 Uh, the, the first guy I saw, we went to his house with the decoy.

01:08:42.060 We let the decoy out.

01:08:43.980 He puts his arm on her.

01:08:45.860 They walk away, walks right past me.

01:08:47.920 I'm playing like, you know, just looking down, like I'm not a part of it.

01:08:50.580 And then the second we see them walk and he's touching her like arm, arm on the shoulder.

01:08:54.420 It was, I think Alex pops out there filming.

01:08:57.140 And then we said, we've got to talk to you about the messages you left, uh, the decoy

01:09:00.420 and they immediately exposed.

01:09:02.800 So that's where like that fear sets in.

01:09:04.360 Um, the other guy, we set up, we, Alex set up, uh, a fake, a fake address.

01:09:12.360 So we went to a real place and this old man who's like 58 was under the impression that

01:09:18.480 he was going to an 11 year old girl's apartment in an apartment complex.

01:09:23.360 And she was alone and they've been messaging.

01:09:25.560 And he talked about wanting to like bend her over and do all these crazy things.

01:09:29.420 We had all the messages.

01:09:31.060 And so he shows up, I'm staked out in the front waiting for his car.

01:09:34.480 I'm on the phone with Alex.

01:09:35.540 Be like, all right, here he is.

01:09:36.860 Uh, we were expecting another car.

01:09:38.220 Then it was another car.

01:09:39.320 It was a whole thing.

01:09:40.320 And then she's waiting in the vestibule and he comes out and the second he approaches her

01:09:44.160 and we can like, uh, ID him.

01:09:45.660 Cause we've got pictures of them as well.

01:09:47.840 We roll up and we get right in their face and we say, what is this about?

01:09:51.380 And so, but yeah, every one of them is like fear, struggle, calmness.

01:09:55.480 And then it's like a hardness to the face.

01:09:57.320 Cause then it's like, wow, we're totally trapped.

01:09:59.360 We're not getting out of this, you know?

01:10:00.800 And, uh, I don't think two of the, okay.

01:10:05.420 The, the guy of the two arrested, the second guy, Alex sat in the house with him for two

01:10:11.420 hours waiting for the cops.

01:10:12.940 And the guy knew the cops were coming, sitting at the computer with the child porn on it, 0.94

01:10:17.780 like in a, some folder that he admitted to, uh, I mean, he, he was, he had a huge belly. 0.94

01:10:24.780 He was sitting on like a white computer and there was roaches crawling on it.

01:10:28.300 Um, I was right outside of that house, looking into the, into the living room where it was

01:10:32.480 happening and being like, I, first of all, I couldn't believe the cops took two hours,

01:10:35.760 but they did.

01:10:36.560 And, uh, what was so bizarre to me was like, his wife was there and his son was there.

01:10:43.100 And it was so nonchalant.

01:10:44.860 Like, yo, yo, you're, this dude just got caught with child porn.

01:10:48.320 He, we just caught him going into an apartment with a, well, he thought it was a 10 year old

01:10:52.620 girl.

01:10:53.000 And his wife was more concerned about losing the wifi router because the cops are going 1.00

01:10:58.000 to come for the computer.

01:10:59.060 I'm like, yo, you have a lot of way bigger problem right now.

01:11:02.420 That sounds like a psychological defense, like some sort of a mechanism that just, you

01:11:06.720 know, separate yourself from the intensity of the situation.

01:11:09.100 You can choose maybe a lower level of intensity to obsess over something more manageable.

01:11:14.440 You know, like one of the things I saw was, uh, this guy, he's supposedly messaging this

01:11:19.760 young girl and he's talking about letting his dog lick his dong and how she should let 0.85

01:11:25.400 her dog engage on her.

01:11:27.040 And I saw the, and the wife comes over and she's like, wait, with the, you're doing what

01:11:32.400 with the dog?

01:11:32.940 And she reaches over and snatches the little dog away from him. 0.95

01:11:36.500 And that is one of the parts that like the, the, the marital interactions, the, the paternal

01:11:42.640 interactions, you know, like one thing to be there and have adrenaline, you know, that

01:11:47.540 high.

01:11:47.840 Cause I imagine like, especially when you're getting ready to like, there he is.

01:11:50.880 That's definitely him.

01:11:51.780 Look, there's the signal.

01:11:52.860 He put his arm on her.

01:11:53.880 Boom.

01:11:54.300 Let's go.

01:11:54.900 That's enough to almost make you want to vomit.

01:11:57.040 I feel like that level of, of, I was sick.

01:12:00.060 I was sick.

01:12:00.900 Like, I don't know how Alex does it all the time.

01:12:03.020 And sometimes multiple times in a day, his team is really good.

01:12:06.980 Uh, I, I, um, I, I just, I couldn't believe it, man.

01:12:11.280 I was like, literally like sick to my stomach listening to the messages being read out loud.

01:12:15.920 And then like, I, I kept looking at Alex while he's interrogating them.

01:12:20.780 But then, you know, I'm like, I have to look at the person cause I'm writing about it.

01:12:23.400 I want to like, Todd, you asked about the face.

01:12:25.260 I also want to know what the face is. 0.97

01:12:26.520 So like when they're answering questions about some of the most heinous shit, he's looking 0.98

01:12:31.740 me right in the eyes. 0.99

01:12:32.660 I'm right there.

01:12:33.600 And he's like, he's like this confessing to all of us.

01:12:36.000 And I'm like, it was, so when the cops come in and you see the guy cuffed, I'm like,

01:12:40.300 I cried twice. 0.64

01:12:41.740 I was like, it was so fucking emotional. 0.99

01:12:43.600 Like these are, it's true evil that I, I consider them fucking straight up demons. 0.99

01:12:48.540 There's no rehabilitating them. 0.99

01:12:50.220 They need to be taken out of society, you know, however way you want to take that.

01:12:55.480 Uh, but one way just has to, they have to go, like they can't be here.

01:12:59.100 Right.

01:12:59.340 And they're everywhere.

01:13:00.640 It could, and then it's literally all of these people hit it so well for so long.

01:13:05.940 The most depraved stuff that it's, it could be literally anybody. 0.98

01:13:10.000 And I had some people hit me up being like, oh, well, he's only getting like the dumb, 1.00

01:13:15.080 like retarded old guys. 1.00

01:13:16.360 I'm like, no, we got a 23 year old who's a firearms instructor. 0.97

01:13:19.740 Who's a firefighter, you know, who just got married in July, who just bought a house and

01:13:24.060 we put him in a cop car and I had his mugshot on my phone now.

01:13:27.640 You know, uh, there's other guys who are like high up in it. 1.00

01:13:30.660 Gee, yeah, yeah, I should fuck that. 1.00

01:13:32.320 That's how you invite, that's how you invite demons, yo. 1.00

01:13:34.640 I don't want that guy anywhere near me.

01:13:37.640 Shane, Shane, one of the things that you, you were describing though, you're going into

01:13:41.220 this description of their face, right?

01:13:42.880 And based off of the, what you're talking about, I'm getting the sense that like, you

01:13:46.640 know, there's, you can see the, the levels, like the stages rather of like the fear,

01:13:51.380 the scramble, the sort of acceptance.

01:13:53.400 Maybe there's a bit of bargaining, right?

01:13:54.800 What are the stages of grief?

01:13:55.780 But then like, is there a stage where they drop the facade and like, you see them as

01:14:01.680 an entirely different person than, than any of the stages they went through?

01:14:05.080 Cause that's what I feel like is like, once they know they're not getting out of it.

01:14:08.000 And also like Alex is just willing to, to talk like a regular dude with them.

01:14:11.960 There's no reason for them to, they're screwed, you know, every which way to Sunday.

01:14:16.120 And so now the mask comes off. 0.83

01:14:18.760 Yes.

01:14:19.080 Alex has been doing this since 2019.

01:14:21.560 So he's got this down to like a scientific method of the good cop he plays.

01:14:25.780 Right.

01:14:26.260 Where he confronts them with a serious issue.

01:14:29.020 And like, some of them are like the buckle and the knees.

01:14:31.200 They like, it's like, they've been exposed.

01:14:32.420 Right.

01:14:32.760 Oh my God.

01:14:33.460 And then they, they get softened up because he walks them through really beautifully.

01:14:38.560 Like, um, I'm just here to help you, man.

01:14:41.080 I'm not the cops.

01:14:41.800 I don't have handcuffs on me.

01:14:43.200 You know, I think, I think you can get help.

01:14:45.140 I don't think he believes that, you know, but he, I know he doesn't believe that, but

01:14:48.380 he's like, I'm going to do whatever I can to make this person get their defenses

01:14:52.200 down.

01:14:52.440 So like, you'll see in the very beginning when the questions are starting with Alex,

01:14:56.300 they'll say, Oh yeah, no, you know, the oldest I've ever seen of a child porn was like 13,

01:15:02.140 14.

01:15:02.600 They'll say, you know, and then Alex will small talk, gets their guard down more circles

01:15:09.360 back to that question.

01:15:10.300 Again, the age lowers, right.

01:15:12.620 Then it happens with how much do you have on your computer or on your phone?

01:15:15.560 Oh, none.

01:15:16.340 And then 20 minutes later.

01:15:17.420 Oh, one or two, 20 minutes after that, two or two to four, who knows, you know?

01:15:21.340 And he knows because he's done it so long. 1.00

01:15:23.500 They're always full of shit. 1.00

01:15:24.720 If there's one, there's probably way more. 1.00

01:15:26.540 And they're making it because they know it's not good.

01:15:28.680 They're making it sound not as bad.

01:15:30.340 So he kind of coaxes it out of them.

01:15:32.220 So yeah, by the end for, I think everyone we talked to there, they're being pretty open

01:15:37.700 about it.

01:15:38.200 And it's like, uh, the last guy knew it was a problem.

01:15:40.860 He was ashamed of it.

01:15:42.280 Uh, the other guys didn't seem that ashamed of it, but they all will start talking about

01:15:46.820 like, you know, uh, it's hard to even talk about honestly, but like infants, you know, 1.00

01:15:51.980 like crazy fucked up shit. 0.99

01:15:53.360 And, uh, there was one guy he had, this is before I was there way before, um, they had 1.00

01:15:59.460 a guy who the cops ended up telling him that he was a young man and he was willing to rape

01:16:04.040 an infant and then cut it to pieces, you know, like it's, it is just the most, dude, it's 1.00

01:16:09.220 like the darkest shit. 1.00

01:16:10.820 It's so fucking dark. 1.00

01:16:12.460 Like on one hand, I never, I know it is definitely shit. 1.00

01:16:16.120 That's exactly right. 0.98

01:16:17.520 I, I, it's like, I don't even want to write this story.

01:16:19.340 I don't even want to write the story, but it's like, honestly, I think it's the, it's

01:16:22.740 the most important story in the world.

01:16:24.200 I'm not saying mine. 0.79

01:16:24.940 I'm saying what Alex is doing needs to be like amplified across every fucking medium and 0.90

01:16:31.160 be like support that dude. 0.98

01:16:32.400 Cause he's got the balls and like, it made me, it reminded me like, okay, some form 0.91

01:16:37.680 of cops is okay. 0.99

01:16:39.320 Cause like they can at least take this person off the streets cause we can't do it.

01:16:42.540 And then maybe we could take it back somehow and we can take them out back.

01:16:45.400 But like the laws in place in places like Ohio where I was, and they make it really tough

01:16:51.040 to apprehend these guys.

01:16:52.120 So that's why Alex takes as long as he does to get the confession, to tell them I can help

01:16:56.900 you delete it off your phone.

01:16:57.920 If you just admit to having it and we have it on camera and then, and then the cops

01:17:02.500 come and then it's like, Alex then switches it.

01:17:05.000 He's like, Oh, Hey officer, um, uh, Harold was just telling me he's never going to do it

01:17:09.460 again, but he's got it on his phone and he's going to delete it.

01:17:11.300 Okay.

01:17:11.520 And then the second the cops aren't asking, it's like, well, if he starts lying, we

01:17:15.280 have it all right here.

01:17:16.100 And he also gets passwords from people.

01:17:18.340 Swear to God.

01:17:18.900 Like I saw him get passwords.

01:17:20.940 Wow.

01:17:21.460 Twice.

01:17:22.060 It's, it's really, it's, I've never seen anything like it in my whole life, dude.

01:17:26.280 It was so intense.

01:17:28.460 And, uh, your story is super important.

01:17:30.860 And like, one of the reasons why I'd say that it's super important is because, you know,

01:17:34.720 I've, I've made t-shirts about like, you know, woodchipper and all that stuff, but it's kind

01:17:39.240 of like a thing that people say, because we just can't until you're describing it right

01:17:43.440 now.

01:17:43.640 It's hard for me to really understand that, like what that person in their brain, but

01:17:49.440 like, as you're describing it and, and I'm sure as you're going to write it out, it, it's

01:17:54.180 going to paint a disturbing picture that people really shouldn't like look at because like,

01:17:58.520 like, you know, we say pedophilia and it's just kind of like a passing thing.

01:18:02.500 Oh, it's not, I mean, it's, it's, but you just don't understand how bad it is.

01:18:07.180 Yeah.

01:18:07.500 The, the, the, the problem I'm going to run into while writing it, I can already sense

01:18:10.940 it's like how graphic I want to get by describing certain, certain things that were said, but

01:18:16.360 I'm going to have to get graphic because I want people to like be completely disgusted.

01:18:21.080 Right.

01:18:21.440 I want them to be like, I only want to finish reading some of this.

01:18:24.180 Right.

01:18:24.440 Because I, that's how I felt.

01:18:25.680 I had to hear it.

01:18:26.740 He broadcast it to everybody and I'm not going to share everything I saw because that would

01:18:30.360 be a story that would take, you know, 72 hours to read, which some people who don't

01:18:34.880 like me might say, that's how all my stories are, which is fair, fair enough.

01:18:38.560 I like you, I like you, but yes, it's true.

01:18:40.920 These stories are really long. 0.99

01:18:42.580 I'm like, well, shut the fuck up. 0.99

01:18:44.300 Uh, but, uh, I, you know, I don't care. 0.99

01:18:47.560 I don't care.

01:18:48.620 And, um, it will be in depth and it will be, I, it'll have to be graphic to a point where

01:18:55.260 it's like, you need to understand what these people are, what they're thinking and how they're

01:18:59.860 operating in, in, in this reality and how they're hiding it and what, you know, what

01:19:03.960 they're messaging to people, like what you should be looking for in your kids, like in

01:19:08.740 Roblox.

01:19:09.840 Yo, dude, Roblox is not, we don't play Roblox at all.

01:19:13.640 There's no, no, no, they can't talk to anybody online and how, what these people do, you know,

01:19:19.820 they, they'll, they walk through this weird anti-logic to like, I just want to be their

01:19:26.180 friends.

01:19:26.700 I just showed up to see if she was real.

01:19:28.540 I just, you know, they have all these weird loopholes in their brain to make it sound

01:19:32.060 like it makes sense, but it like makes zero sense.

01:19:35.080 It's evil.

01:19:35.660 Right.

01:19:36.320 So yeah, I'm excited for that story to come out and hopefully people read it and, uh,

01:19:41.660 you know, hopefully people support Alex.

01:19:43.100 I'd love to see him get all the support.

01:19:45.100 I think he does it full time.

01:19:46.200 You know, that's all he does. 0.95

01:19:47.120 And he's got the sweet team and they kill it. 1.00

01:19:49.860 Uh, I wish there was an army of him, but yeah, that, that shit, I was thinking, uh, actually 0.99

01:19:54.920 I thought of you guys while I was with the guy in the orange shirt, I just saw that picture 0.99

01:19:59.200 I posted of, uh, we're, we're, we're like talking to the old man, the orange hoodie.

01:20:03.300 And, um, oh yeah, that, that whole time we're standing outside and outside that apartment

01:20:10.920 complex, someone smoke detector, someone smoke detector was going off.

01:20:15.580 So there you go.

01:20:21.200 Wow.

01:20:21.780 Great.

01:20:22.400 Yeah.

01:20:22.900 So I know it's like the neighborhood you were in.

01:20:25.740 Say no more.

01:20:26.660 We, I think we need a palate cleanse.

01:20:28.880 I think we need to, uh, here's a good palate.

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01:22:33.040 Did I fuck that up?

01:22:34.380 I don't know.

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01:22:36.240 If it works, whatever.

01:22:36.900 You know, it just, it does remind me of, like, as you're saying that, it's like all these

01:22:43.660 people that are in power that are pedophiles, but the demon aspect to it really makes me

01:22:49.240 a little bit more interested because it's like, so you're saying like, you kept saying

01:22:53.340 like, we're stuck here.

01:22:54.720 You'll see that go across the guy's face.

01:22:56.520 We're stuck.

01:22:57.500 We.

01:22:58.040 As in like, there's something else.

01:22:59.780 Why wouldn't that demon just bounce? 0.99

01:23:01.920 Like, I've, I was already, I was just trying to do a little shit. 0.99

01:23:04.620 Like, why stick around? 0.99

01:23:05.600 Are you that bonded to this person?

01:23:07.620 And even a family member talking about Wi-Fi.

01:23:09.900 Like, what that's like.

01:23:10.500 I, I really think the demon, once it gains possession of your form, it's, it's a symbiosis

01:23:18.860 where you can't live without each other.

01:23:20.420 Like when I'm watching two of these guys, like when it gets really serious and there's

01:23:25.380 no turning back and we've been there for like an hour, both, both of the guys, uh,

01:23:30.120 to the first two guys had weird physical reactions. 0.99

01:23:33.480 Like the first guy's shit in front of us. 0.99

01:23:35.600 Yeah. 1.00

01:23:36.220 Wild.

01:23:37.540 That was the demon trying to escape.

01:23:39.700 That's what that was.

01:23:41.040 No, we lost Shane for a second. 1.00

01:23:42.280 The demon just fucking cut out his life. 1.00

01:23:45.420 It is wild. 1.00

01:23:46.240 I hope he comes back because that's such an interesting, like, you know what's crazy?

01:23:50.920 I wonder if Alex has ever gotten into like a physical, you would think like it's going 0.98

01:23:57.480 to come to blows every time that you fucking confront a pedophile, uh, because they're 0.98

01:24:02.100 going to kick in their rides and, and, you know, they're going to want to get out of this 1.00

01:24:04.940 any which way.

01:24:05.680 And like, maybe it's because I don't know if you've seen, uh, Alex, but Alex is a giant

01:24:11.560 man.

01:24:11.860 Shane is back.

01:24:12.520 Thank God.

01:24:12.940 We're getting a feedback.

01:24:27.620 Yeah.

01:24:28.260 Yeah.

01:24:29.340 Go ahead.

01:24:29.920 Want me to come back?

01:24:30.980 How's that?

01:24:31.340 No, no, you're good now.

01:24:32.560 Okay.

01:24:33.160 Um, and then the second guy almost collapsed in front of us outside saying his heart was

01:24:37.800 messed up.

01:24:38.220 And then I was like, one shits himself and the other one collapses different. 0.99

01:24:43.960 Yeah. 0.97

01:24:44.240 Yeah.

01:24:44.620 The other guy almost collapsed.

01:24:46.400 Um, and that was, I thought that is the demon inside doing something, but it can't leave.

01:24:52.980 Right.

01:24:53.340 It's there.

01:24:54.060 It's stuck.

01:24:54.780 I really do believe that.

01:24:56.220 Yeah.

01:24:56.900 Yeah.

01:24:57.260 Uh, almost like a, you know, when you get, when you trap an animal, right.

01:25:00.840 And that first few instances, the first few moments, it's like, it's freaking out shaking.

01:25:04.840 Um, cause then when we got the 23 year old guy.

01:25:08.220 He didn't have that emotional, that physical thing going on.

01:25:11.120 And then for me, I'm so at that point locked into the demon narrative with this, I'm thinking

01:25:16.640 like, maybe the demon is him and him is so new and they don't have that bond yet.

01:25:20.360 Right.

01:25:21.100 Uh, who knows though, you know, cause he didn't have that physical thing going on.

01:25:25.620 I was waiting for it.

01:25:26.580 And if you watch a lot of other Alex's videos, it happens quite frequently. 0.96

01:25:31.240 Uh, especially with the older guys, they'll, there's one of the most fucked up videos is

01:25:35.560 a guy he confronts in Iowa and, uh, they, they know going in, Alex knows going in that 0.97

01:25:44.360 this guy's molested his daughter and was about to sell porn or has sold porn of his six year

01:25:50.620 old daughter and, um, was inviting someone over to partake in that. 0.99

01:25:55.500 And, uh, that was insane.

01:25:58.720 That, that one was like the hardest one to watch.

01:26:00.740 And, uh, that guy had a stroke beforehand, right?

01:26:04.720 Like two months prior to Alex seeing him.

01:26:06.760 And he kept saying the stroke is when this, this happened when I started being attracted

01:26:11.480 to my daughter, but then like Alex, but then with Alex, like the more he goes through it,

01:26:16.240 it's like, it wasn't the stroke.

01:26:17.420 You know, we find out this has been going on for a long time before, well before the

01:26:21.200 stroke.

01:26:21.640 And so I think, I think something happens with these people where something is opened in

01:26:27.840 there, in there, like some sort of, some type of vessels open to them, inviting these

01:26:32.600 demons in, whether it's, you know, doing evil deeds, whether it's drugs like meth or

01:26:38.300 something, who knows, but, uh, something's been invited in and, and these people can't

01:26:43.500 get rid of it and I, and that also connects back with what I'm saying with, they can't

01:26:49.120 be rehabilitated.

01:26:50.080 There's no, there's no coming back from that.

01:26:52.300 You can tell me until you're blue in the face that you think someone's been rehabilitated

01:26:55.480 when it comes to that stuff. 0.99

01:26:56.540 And I will never fucking believe you. 0.99

01:26:58.220 I will never fucking believe you ever. 0.98

01:27:01.440 So they, they need to just go away for good, you know, whether it's alive in a building 0.95

01:27:05.680 or not.

01:27:06.340 Yeah.

01:27:06.640 That's what, so like jail is not, so I was always like wood chipper, right?

01:27:10.980 Fee first.

01:27:11.680 Ha ha.

01:27:12.160 Right, right, right.

01:27:13.480 But the more you're talking, the more it seems like it's not like jail, not jail.

01:27:18.060 It has to be a psycho, a psycho ward, right? 0.99

01:27:21.700 Like all the shit that we've closed down. 0.99

01:27:23.820 Now, the question I got to ask you is you're saying like this spirit of Lilith is running 1.00

01:27:29.580 amok, even though like the spirit of Lilith is actually way better than this shit. 0.99

01:27:33.440 But this is running amok in society today. 0.99

01:27:35.700 Do you, do you think that this has always been the case with human beings as far as it

01:27:39.760 being as widespread or do you think that there's an increase now as if like, like, you know, 0.89

01:27:44.520 everybody knows that we've opened up the hydron collider and there's fucking portals open. 0.85

01:27:48.200 Like, do you think, do you think this is just more common or are we just seeing more of it now? 0.90

01:27:55.260 I think it's probably unfortunately always been common.

01:27:58.220 I think it's some defect with the demons and humans that has been going on for a while.

01:28:02.980 But I think the internet has accelerated the way for these demons to gain possession of

01:28:08.520 it and, and reach out to victims.

01:28:11.980 But I was thinking about this while watching Alex do his thing.

01:28:15.640 The internet has also weaponized, you know, and they, Alex has weaponized the internet against

01:28:21.240 them.

01:28:21.680 So it's kind of going back to destroy them.

01:28:23.860 Hopefully there's only one Alex though, you know, but I think the internet has definitely

01:28:28.320 accelerated their, uh, ability to do it and maybe it's opened up more portals for these

01:28:33.640 demons to get into these people. 0.83

01:28:35.860 But, uh, unfortunately this is just something that humans have always done.

01:28:39.600 There's always been serial killers.

01:28:40.900 There's always been monsters. 1.00

01:28:42.120 There's always been this shit. 0.99

01:28:43.580 Um, and there's just more of us now and there's more ways of doing it. 1.00

01:28:47.800 You know what, Shane?

01:28:48.700 I, I do kind of feel like I wouldn't be surprised if it was more prolific now though, because of

01:28:53.620 things like, you know, how long ago was it that Netflix did cuties? 0.97

01:28:56.760 Remember that weird shit and they got a lot of pushback for that. 0.93

01:29:00.320 Now cuties is an extreme example, but there are several degrees lower than that. 0.99

01:29:05.520 Right.

01:29:05.820 And we're just talking about the things that media kind of pushes the, the sexualization

01:29:10.580 of children is something that you don't have to, you know, there's, there's, there's constantly

01:29:14.480 these shows, um, all about they're geared towards women predominantly all about like the 1.00

01:29:19.940 sexual lives of teenagers and they're played by adults. 0.98

01:29:23.100 You know, it's like adult actors, but it's like constantly, why the fuck are we going 0.99

01:29:26.320 down this path? 0.96

01:29:26.960 Why are we doing this all the time?

01:29:28.020 And I think that there is a lot of stuff, um, from, from media to fashion that contributes 1.00

01:29:33.580 a lot of this slow acceptance of that kind of shit. 0.98

01:29:37.480 And I think that that emboldens some of these characters, you know, because they're no longer 0.99

01:29:42.520 that far. 0.99

01:29:43.700 Oh shit. 1.00

01:29:44.080 We lost him again. 1.00

01:29:45.340 Um, but they're no longer that on the periphery.

01:29:50.540 You know, it's like the inner circle is expanding and now they're, they're almost getting pulled

01:29:54.820 into it.

01:29:55.760 Culturally, it's almost becoming acceptable on, on more of a level than it, than it used

01:29:59.960 to be.

01:30:00.200 So I would, I would say, I would say that I wouldn't be surprised if it was in some ways

01:30:03.940 worse.

01:30:04.940 That's a good way of putting it, of it being more culturally accepted, which like they're,

01:30:08.880 they're creating this world for it to be like an okay thing.

01:30:11.580 Clearly.

01:30:12.100 Right.

01:30:12.300 Like when you say cuties, I was instantly reminded of a friend I no longer have because he didn't 0.99

01:30:17.000 like something I said about fucking politics. 0.98

01:30:19.560 But when we were still friends, he, I told him about cuties. 0.99

01:30:24.020 He had a young kid, a newborn kid. 0.99

01:30:26.120 And I'm like, yeah, that movie is fucked up. 0.99

01:30:27.980 And he was like, well, that's just their culture. 0.99

01:30:30.200 That's just France. 0.67

01:30:31.240 I'm like, what dude?

01:30:32.620 Like, how, how do you think, how are you even trying to make this?

01:30:37.420 Okay.

01:30:38.180 This is totally insane.

01:30:39.560 So that's not, it's not unique to him.

01:30:42.520 There's a lot of people who see this now.

01:30:44.540 He unfriended you because of your politics.

01:30:48.500 Doesn't it make sense?

01:30:50.000 Doesn't it make sense?

01:30:51.140 Yeah. 1.00

01:30:51.580 I wrote a poem that he didn't like about Black Lives Matter and fucking, and fucking COVID 1.00

01:30:59.340 and lockdowns. 0.99

01:31:00.540 And he called me at like midnight.

01:31:02.800 He called me crying.

01:31:04.500 He called me crying.

01:31:06.200 And that's when I knew I was like, this is totally done between me and this.

01:31:09.560 You're a hell of a writer.

01:31:11.020 Yeah, I guess so.

01:31:11.960 It was that, that is to me, when people get mad at my writing, I love the support.

01:31:15.760 It's amazing, but there's no greater reward than people getting mad, which has been a pretty

01:31:20.240 good year for that for me, honestly.

01:31:22.660 Well, 2024 is going to be even crazier.

01:31:25.640 As we were talking about it before 2024, I was telling my wife, it's ramping up to be 1.00

01:31:29.820 like some of the most retarded shit you've ever seen. 1.00

01:31:32.880 If you thought 2019, 2020 was stupid, 2024 into this election, I'm not looking forward 1.00

01:31:38.840 to it. 0.98

01:31:39.440 Like I'm not, I don't even look at politics anymore.

01:31:41.760 I just know it's going to be such high grade nonsense.

01:31:44.780 Like, I don't even know if we'll survive it at this point.

01:31:46.900 Like I'm dead serious.

01:31:47.840 Like whatever these people are planning, not looking forward to it.

01:31:53.260 Yeah.

01:31:53.500 We're coming up on an hour and a half.

01:31:54.900 I want to respect your time, Shane.

01:31:56.160 Just give me a quick synopsis.

01:31:57.360 What do you see in 2024?

01:31:58.960 What are you thinking?

01:32:00.660 I hope we make it.

01:32:01.800 I hope we make it there.

01:32:05.100 I think, I think that it's a very real possibility that they're going to try to turn off the internet

01:32:10.900 and they're going to blame it on a solar flare and they don't want us talking.

01:32:15.060 All of this, all the podcasts going on, they've done a really good job of subverting the narrative

01:32:20.760 that they've had a stronghold on for so long.

01:32:23.820 And look what we did to COVID, how we like undermine that narrative.

01:32:27.680 Look how we undermine politics, all their election stuff.

01:32:31.800 It's like, if they can get rid of the internet for a little bit, they're going to be getting

01:32:36.100 away with a lot more, like they used to, right?

01:32:38.560 So that bothers me.

01:32:40.700 I hitched my trailer to no horse.

01:32:43.680 I have no, like, I don't care about it.

01:32:46.540 I don't like any politician.

01:32:49.080 Unfortunately, Trump might be the one to vote for, but I think he's highly flawed, you know,

01:32:53.460 in terms of he gave us the vaccine.

01:32:56.220 He started the lockdowns.

01:32:57.800 There's a lot I don't agree with on him, but I'm going to vote for him.

01:33:00.900 Well, that's why I might vote for him.

01:33:04.620 I don't, I don't, you know, people like RFK Jr.

01:33:09.980 I think he says a lot of things I like, but I think he's always a liberal and he'll always

01:33:14.780 be a liberal.

01:33:15.180 Because I like Shane, but I can't understand any of them.

01:33:20.900 There is that.

01:33:22.540 There is that.

01:33:23.000 Shane, we had on Donnie Darkin and he laid out the plot or the timeline of Donald Trump

01:33:29.200 being the Antichrist convincingly.

01:33:31.900 And I was like, very possibly the Antichrist.

01:33:34.240 And at the end, I asked him, I said, will you vote for him again?

01:33:37.620 Because I still will. 1.00

01:33:39.600 I'm like, that's how stupid things are. 1.00

01:33:41.260 But you're right. 1.00

01:33:41.600 Like you just said, like, he's the worst candidate.

01:33:43.280 But I'm like, I saw him in the UFC event. 0.99

01:33:45.120 I was like, yeah, I fucking, I guess I'd vote for him. 0.87

01:33:47.420 I mean, he's funny. 0.99

01:33:49.480 He's a really funny Antichrist.

01:33:51.880 You know, there is that.

01:33:53.460 That's the least we can ask for. 0.99

01:33:54.700 I think, I think what I would like to see with him is that he learned his fucking lesson. 0.99

01:33:59.980 Hopefully he'll surround himself with better people and he'll be the wrecking ball that 0.99

01:34:02.820 I want him to be.

01:34:03.800 But I can't trust that because he still wants to be loved by all these institutions that

01:34:07.620 I despise.

01:34:08.460 He still wants corporate media to like him. 0.92

01:34:10.780 I hate that. 0.99

01:34:11.840 You know, I wish he would just stop giving a fuck, but he comes from a different world 1.00

01:34:15.140 than me in a lot of different ways. 1.00

01:34:16.900 Right.

01:34:18.460 Obviously, I hate Nikki Haley. 1.00

01:34:19.980 I hate all those other people running.

01:34:21.340 It's a joke.

01:34:22.220 Vivek is interesting to me.

01:34:23.380 I think he's really smart.

01:34:24.700 I don't think he'd be president.

01:34:26.020 I think he also has done some plagiarizing with some speeches that I think is interesting.

01:34:31.300 And his past is interesting.

01:34:33.440 So I just.

01:34:34.300 There's a chance we're going to see a Trump Vivek ticket.

01:34:37.200 No.

01:34:37.580 I don't know.

01:34:38.440 Trump.

01:34:38.820 I can see.

01:34:40.860 That would be fun, but I don't even think it's going to be that.

01:34:43.120 Yeah.

01:34:43.220 I think it'll be more like left field.

01:34:46.280 They came out together at the UFC event.

01:34:50.280 That was dope.

01:34:51.520 That was dope.

01:34:52.540 That was dope.

01:34:53.380 I liked it.

01:34:53.940 But I don't know.

01:34:55.260 I think Vivek will probably be in the administration.

01:34:57.880 I thought he was going to pick Carrie Lake as a VP, but she's running for Senate now in 1.00

01:35:03.300 Arizona.

01:35:03.800 So that's probably not going to happen.

01:35:05.020 But I don't know.

01:35:06.100 I just it's going to be a crazy thing.

01:35:07.580 They're going to try to find a way to destroy our way of communicating freely.

01:35:12.000 And that's the thing that bothers me.

01:35:14.280 Like when we talked about Hochul at the top of the show, what she's doing in terms of hate 0.80

01:35:18.120 speech, that means nothing.

01:35:19.440 How are they going to start suppressing our ways of subverting their narrative?

01:35:23.880 So I hope I hope we get there.

01:35:25.820 I hope they don't try to take us out even more.

01:35:27.660 But as the world descends into more war, anything's possible.

01:35:33.240 And we're seeing this war fracture, the left and the right. 0.87

01:35:36.920 And it's just ridiculous. 0.98

01:35:38.020 All I care about is this country and getting this country fucking somehow back on its feet. 0.98

01:35:43.280 But we've been a revolving door of tragedy. 0.97

01:35:45.400 And we can't even fix those problems like Maui burning down, like East Palestine blowing 1.00

01:35:49.860 up, like all this bullshit. 0.99

01:35:51.420 Half the country's on SSRIs. 1.00

01:35:53.100 We have so many problems here. 0.99

01:35:54.480 I don't give a fuck about any other country other than this one. 0.98

01:35:57.920 And that's all I want to see. 0.96

01:35:59.220 And hopefully we get to a point where we can even address that.

01:36:02.500 Wow.

01:36:03.320 Is there any more to say after that?

01:36:04.780 This guy just dropped the microphone.

01:36:08.020 Just like, that's it, man. 0.99

01:36:10.860 You fucking nailed it. 0.99

01:36:12.080 Shane, thank you. 0.99

01:36:13.180 Thank you for coming back, coming on the show.

01:36:15.680 He was in No Way Jose with us last time.

01:36:18.140 We love you.

01:36:19.140 And I look forward to your piece coming out.

01:36:21.180 Thanks, man.

01:36:21.660 I love you guys.

01:36:22.500 I'm stoked for what you guys are doing.

01:36:24.720 I think I was, I meant to say this to you a while back.

01:36:26.780 I'll say it now on the show.

01:36:28.060 I think a lot in terms of rap.

01:36:30.200 And when I think of Tower Gang, I think of like Wu-Tang, right?

01:36:34.220 But then I saw you guys happen.

01:36:35.700 I was like, it's like Method Man and Red Man doing something. 1.00

01:36:38.020 And that shit is like, that shit's amazing to me. 0.99

01:36:41.680 So you're putting out bangers and it's dope. 1.00

01:36:43.540 And I'm happy for you guys.

01:36:45.180 Thank you, man.

01:36:45.980 Thank you for your time.

01:36:46.760 I really appreciate it.

01:36:48.000 Maybe if the internet gets shut down, we'll cross paths while we're screaming on bullhorns 1.00

01:36:51.660 about Nephilim shit. 1.00

01:36:52.600 I mean, it's going to be the only recourse is fucking going outside and screaming into 1.00

01:36:56.340 the ether like they used to do. 0.95

01:36:58.020 But thank you for your time, man.

01:37:00.260 To the audience, thank you guys for listening.

01:37:02.540 Don't forget to go to NephilimDeathSquad.com. 0.98

01:37:05.560 Do all that fun shit. 0.99

01:37:06.880 And until next time, guys. 0.99

01:37:09.300 Peace.

01:37:09.740 The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.

01:37:16.280 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

01:37:20.080 You can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see.

01:37:25.200 Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening.

01:37:32.980 And they have.

01:37:33.900 Peace.

01:37:34.900 Peace.

01:37:35.900 Peace.

Nephilim Death Squad - November 15, 2023

009： Inverted World w⧸ Shane Cashman

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