Nephilim Death Squad - 010： Macroaggressions w⧸Charlie Robinson

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00:00:43.940 We are being hypnotized by people like this.

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00:00:54.240 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:01:03.200 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely huge.

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00:01:10.260 There's some Leplum shit. 0.99

00:01:11.480 It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying shit what happened to the home of the brave. 1.00

00:01:17.660 Motherfuckers, they controlling us now. 1.00

00:01:19.320 I know we're talking about how they made us try to be slaves. 1.00

00:01:22.440 And everybody's just walking around, heading to clouds.

00:01:25.240 I want to wake up to a jet in the green.

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00:01:30.460 Welcome to the end of day.

00:01:32.140 Welcome back, guys, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.

00:01:41.660 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.

00:01:44.960 This is Top Lobster.

00:01:46.400 And today's guest is Charlie Robinson of Macroaggressions.

00:01:50.940 Charlie, how are you, brother?

00:01:52.280 I'm so good.

00:01:53.460 And my episode with the two of you will be out on Macroaggressions on Sunday.

00:01:57.860 So anyone that's not thoroughly appalled after this episode and wants more, they can find it on Sunday, wherever podcasts are served in audio format and on Rumble, Rockfin, and Bandot Video.

00:02:11.360 Hell yeah.

00:02:12.020 We are so excited.

00:02:13.300 We're like every again, when the music plays, I get excited.

00:02:15.880 But I'm just excited to have Charlie back on.

00:02:18.340 Like we had such a good time the first episode that we're like, do you want to talk again sometime?

00:02:22.400 Maybe we could see each other more steadily.

00:02:24.520 Maybe you can make this like official.

00:02:27.680 Maybe go to a movie official.

00:02:29.460 Yeah, yeah.

00:02:30.560 I'm down.

00:02:31.580 It's kind of gay, but I'm fine with it. 1.00

00:02:33.760 It's fine. 0.99

00:02:34.280 It's all super gay. 1.00

00:02:35.200 Charlie, before we get into things, can you tell the audience a little bit about like what your focus is on your show and just in general, you know, because I think it'd be a good way to lay the format or the groundwork before we jump into things.

00:02:47.120 So I wrote a book in 2017 called The Octopus of Global Control, and then I went out and started promoting it because nobody knew who I was.

00:02:56.240 And so I did that for a while, and that turned into going on Jeff Berwick's show, The Anarchist.

00:03:02.120 And after we got done recording, he was like, hey, man, you want to write a book to, you know, like I have some ideas for a book.

00:03:08.100 You want to write a book?

00:03:09.660 And that, and we wound up doing that.

00:03:12.340 That came out in 2020, the tail end of 2020 called The Controlled Demolition of the American Empire.

00:03:17.380 And, and while, you know, sort of in the, in between stages of writing that book and still promoting The Octopus, our, our mutual friend, Tony Merkel reached out and had me on the confessionals and we talked and he said, you've got to do a podcast.

00:03:32.600 You've got to do your own thing.

00:03:34.380 And, and I said, yeah, I, I, I'd like to, but I don't like all the, all the technical stuff is, you know, I'm not going to, I'm not going to be doing all that.

00:03:42.140 He goes, I do that for a living.

00:03:43.420 I'll do that for you.

00:03:44.920 But you just do the show.

00:03:46.840 And so that turned into macroaggressions that started in March of 2020, right around the same time as the thing that nobody's allowed to talk about.

00:03:55.500 And the timing just worked out.

00:03:57.820 So wait, you weren't like, you were convinced and I'm sure you're not somebody who's like, he wasn't like, Hey, do the show.

00:04:03.740 And then you did it immediately.

00:04:05.280 It probably was like a couple of months that you were like, maybe, maybe.

00:04:08.500 December was when he, December of 2019 was the first time we were talking about it because I remember being, it was Christmas.

00:04:16.200 Cause, and I was at this hotel that had all this Christmas stuff and I had to like peel away from the family and have this conversation with Tony Merkel.

00:04:22.180 And I was like, all right.

00:04:24.120 Okay.

00:04:24.480 If we did it, what would it look like?

00:04:27.780 You know, how would we do any, you know, so, so that's really where it all sort of the concept came out January of 2020.

00:04:36.080 I agreed, let's do it.

00:04:37.760 And I started putting together the intro, which is, um, uh, I mean, I'll tell you what, if you listen to my intro, you're going to know whether you're interested in my brand of insanity or not.

00:04:49.200 It's about two minutes and you're going to go either this guy should be committed to the nut house, or I think I might be down with his act.

00:04:55.880 So we, I started putting that together.

00:04:59.180 I recorded some early episodes and then, and Tony was, see, Tony was really important in this because the confessionals is a really, it's like a professional well done podcast.

00:05:10.640 He's an audio geek and he wants it to sound the right way.

00:05:13.780 And it matters to him.

00:05:15.600 And he got me started early on, on some pretty important, uh, structure, the structure of the show.

00:05:23.400 And he said, listen, if you miss a week, everyone will assume you're dead.

00:05:26.700 So you, you've got to be on a schedule.

00:05:28.900 You got to do this episode, you know, you drop out your monologue episode on a Wednesday, your interview episode on a Sunday, and you never miss it.

00:05:36.100 Cause if you miss, you'll lose your audience.

00:05:37.760 And I was like, okay, you prerecord a couple in advance.

00:05:41.160 When we put this, when we start this thing, we'll drop five of them out at once.

00:05:44.780 If, if people like it, they'll, they could listen to all five.

00:05:48.120 I mean, nobody listened to any of it.

00:05:49.940 Right.

00:05:50.120 So I was talking to myself, I'm sure of it, but, but still, he got me on this, on this structured way of doing it that I think was really helpful.

00:05:59.400 I might've figured it out.

00:06:00.500 I might've, but, but he, he said, it's very important to, to, to do this thing in a way where people,

00:06:07.760 people can expect it.

00:06:08.580 He goes, if they like your show, they'll start to expect it.

00:06:11.360 And if you don't show up, you'll get emails.

00:06:13.320 And that actually happened on the show that I do with Sam Tripoli and, uh, and, and midnight, Mike and Ricky called the union of the unwanted.

00:06:20.460 That we, we were, we do that every other week, every other Monday, but then there were like, we had a scheduling issue and then everyone was out of town and traveling.

00:06:29.900 And so we missed like two potential things.

00:06:32.280 Sure enough.

00:06:32.880 I started getting emails, dude, are you guys, are you guys still do it?

00:06:35.520 So Tony's right.

00:06:36.440 And Tony, you know, he's a pro and he knows what he's talking about.

00:06:38.960 And, and he, I let him sort of lead as far as like how to do a podcast the right way.

00:06:45.540 But then he said, you do the content, you know?

00:06:48.500 So he never has any sort of say or criticism or anything like that.

00:06:53.800 He just says, you do, you know, what's that?

00:06:57.220 I said, that's ideal though.

00:06:58.600 Right.

00:06:58.840 I mean, that's, that's what you want when you're, when you're going to form a relationship with somebody like that.

00:07:03.000 It's like, I appreciate the help, but I need to be able to steer this ship and, and be responsible for what I say.

00:07:09.560 And, and, and that's it.

00:07:10.980 You know, my content is my content.

00:07:12.700 I'm the one who's saying the wild and crazy things, you know, uh, Tony focuses a lot on the paranormal, but, um, there's a lot of sort of political conspiracy, uh, in, in your realm.

00:07:23.680 And sure, there's some overlap there, but, uh, I, I think that's gotta be the perfect deal.

00:07:28.300 Right.

00:07:28.520 It's like, let me be responsible for the things that I'm going to say and, and I'll take the heat, but I got, I didn't have to want to say a hundred percent.

00:07:35.880 And I didn't have to ask Tony.

00:07:37.660 I didn't have to have that conversation.

00:07:39.320 Tony told me, you do it all.

00:07:41.280 You do all the content stuff.

00:07:42.540 So I was like, great.

00:07:43.260 Okay.

00:07:43.500 I mean, for better or for worse, we're going to, we should be charging.

00:07:46.200 We should be charging money for this because you're getting, well, it's secondhand advice, but directly from Tony Merkel, from somebody who's doing it successfully.

00:07:52.820 I'm taking notes in my brain and, uh, thank you for that.

00:07:56.720 I know that we have people who watch that also do shows.

00:07:59.400 So pay attention.

00:08:00.960 If you want to do this, right.

00:08:02.540 That's there's a, there's a guide.

00:08:04.020 There's a, there's a path to it.

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00:08:31.620 Oh, yeah.

00:09:01.600 The speakers are all staying and we're going to the event and it's like a shuttle van back and forth.

00:09:05.840 And I see somebody in the passenger side of the van that I know as I'm getting in.

00:09:09.560 Hey, man, what's going on?

00:09:10.440 Good to see you.

00:09:10.980 And we start chatting, talking.

00:09:12.600 And in the back of the van, I hear this.

00:09:15.100 Oh, my God.

00:09:16.020 I know who you are.

00:09:17.300 I never knew what you looked like.

00:09:18.800 You know what I mean?

00:09:19.440 And so I was like, and it was Dan Dix from Press for Truth.

00:09:22.720 It was his wife.

00:09:24.120 And she's like, I listen to macroaggressions all the time.

00:09:26.420 Oh, my God.

00:09:26.880 I'm like, I listen to Dan.

00:09:28.300 I watch Dan Dix stuff all the time.

00:09:29.920 Like, I'm freaking out.

00:09:31.060 I'm getting in a van with Dan Dix.

00:09:32.340 I've been watching you for 10 years.

00:09:34.220 But that was the first time.

00:09:35.660 And I kept having that happen during the week where I would be, you know, I'd be we'd be at midnight out at some bar and I'm chatting with somebody and some guy would be like, where do I know you from?

00:09:48.440 And so that was weird to me because it was almost like the perfect amount because it was like only if I opened my mouth would people ever go down that path.

00:09:57.840 But the rest of the time, I realized nobody watches the show.

00:10:01.040 Everybody listens to it.

00:10:02.340 And that was kind of interesting.

00:10:03.680 So, again, back to Tony Merkel.

00:10:05.020 Well, he knows that people are going to be listening.

00:10:07.540 And he was the one that would say, you know, you're at episode 200 now.

00:10:14.020 Time to get the good microphones.

00:10:15.680 Time to get the good setup.

00:10:17.660 Time to do this.

00:10:18.600 Time to upgrade that.

00:10:19.700 You know, you're doing this for real now.

00:10:22.260 You can ditch the $100 mic and you can go to the $400 mic or something like that.

00:10:28.120 So, again, like for I guess if there are people listening, like you don't have to start off with like the best equipment.

00:10:33.840 But once you get to a point where you know that you're doing this and it's really happening and you're going to continue to do it, then he was like, he's like, now's the time.

00:10:43.260 So, I just – I basically just do – when it comes to engineering type things or strategy or whatever it is, I listen to him because he knows it.

00:10:53.420 And I know that he's – you know, his show is massive.

00:10:57.920 And people know the confessionals and love it.

00:11:02.180 A quick tip for anyone listening to that part right there.

00:11:06.700 I've done this mistake a bunch of times, especially in my art career where I bought like the tablet and it was like a $300 Samsung and then I quickly outgrew it.

00:11:14.960 Then I bought the iPad but it was like a small one and I outgrew it.

00:11:18.640 Then I bought one that was like half as good as the one I have now.

00:11:21.080 I should have just – once I realized I like this, save up the money and buy it once because I spent triple – you know, it's like a $400 microphone sounds crazy.

00:11:31.880 But when you're spending – you know, you spent $300 on three different mics.

00:11:36.720 They don't work.

00:11:37.220 Now you've got to get that mic anyway.

00:11:38.620 You've spent now $700.

00:11:40.360 So, it's like it's hard to justify but I'm with you and I understand where Tony's coming from too with that.

00:11:46.140 So, more advice, just more nuggets.

00:11:48.600 Yeah.

00:11:48.780 I feel like I'm very similar to Charlie in a way where – and I'm not saying that this is definitively you but I – the tech side of things and the software side of things is really very frustrating for me.

00:12:02.060 I'm a content creator.

00:12:03.900 I'm articulate and I can, you know, rattle off something compelling and have a good conversation.

00:12:08.280 But, man, the back end of things and even trying to research what's the best mic that – I can't type in more than three or four Google searches before I start to get very frustrated with not being able to find what it is that I'm looking for.

00:12:23.100 So, it's funny.

00:12:24.680 And just a moment ago before we started the show, my son was sitting here and he's talking about, oh, are you going to get famous, dad?

00:12:32.660 And I'm like, I don't want to – I'd like to be successful.

00:12:35.200 I don't necessarily want to be famous.

00:12:38.060 And that's a hard thing for a child to quantify, right?

00:12:40.420 Because I'm like – I'm trying to explain to him all the – also the negative vile things that come with fame, right?

00:12:46.060 Where it's like you've got a nice thing going on.

00:12:48.040 You can move through the crowd.

00:12:50.060 And until you speak, everyone will be none the wiser, right?

00:12:53.580 Unless they're really watching all the time.

00:12:55.620 But when they hear your voice, all of a sudden maybe some heads turn.

00:12:58.120 Whereas some people have thrown themselves into the limelight and now they can't move through – Joe Rogan is never going to have a normal life.

00:13:07.640 It's not going to happen.

00:13:08.960 That day is done.

00:13:11.120 And the sort of mental fortitude that you need to be able to deal with just the contention that comes with fame, I don't really want that.

00:13:21.320 And so he's still – he's only eight years old, so he doesn't understand.

00:13:24.520 He's like, why don't you want to be famous?

00:13:25.600 Why don't you want to be one of these people on Google that – why don't you want to be Mr. Beast?

00:13:30.060 I'm like, because Mr. Beast can't go to Walmart.

00:13:32.480 Because it's fucking exhausting. 0.99

00:13:34.740 It's exhausting. 0.99

00:13:35.480 Like I've seen people like – so Clint, I've been homies with Clint for three, four years now.

00:13:41.660 And I was hanging out with him since when he – his profile picture was like a fat lady in an American – America bathing suit, right?

00:13:48.920 And now if I'm hanging out with him in Miami or like we go to a van or something like that, it's very hard to walk with them because someone will always be like, can I get a picture? 0.90

00:13:56.440 And this is like retarded famous. 0.97

00:13:58.140 Like nobody really knows who we are, but it's annoying, you know? 0.68

00:14:02.120 It's like this is exhausting. 0.99

00:14:03.260 I just want to talk shit and go home. 0.99

00:14:05.480 This was at Anarchapulco earlier this year. 0.99

00:14:08.480 We did a book signing, Jeff Berwick and I did.

00:14:12.580 And after I did – day one, I was one of the speakers.

00:14:16.900 I did my thing about the book.

00:14:18.380 And then we got done and we had – there was like a lunch break or wherever.

00:14:22.240 And they said, well, we're setting up.

00:14:24.300 We've set up a place that there's going to be – if you want to buy the book and get signed copies or whatever, you can do that.

00:14:29.920 And so I'm sitting next to Jeff.

00:14:32.280 And obviously it's Jeff's event.

00:14:33.960 And I mean Jeff is the founder of Anarchapulco too.

00:14:37.320 So everybody knows him.

00:14:38.420 But I was watching people freak out because they were just standing next to him.

00:14:44.100 They were like, oh, my God.

00:14:45.060 Oh, my God. 0.94

00:14:45.600 And there's something about – and nobody gave a fuck about me, obviously. 0.86

00:14:49.580 But I was tripping out. 0.99

00:14:52.180 Like I was like, dude, you're like a big fucking deal. 0.99

00:14:54.440 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:14:55.700 His dog, Lucy, was famous.

00:14:59.940 When your dog's famous, like that's – but like you said, Top, it's like in this weird universe of – it's like a big fish in a small pond, right?

00:15:10.360 And the pond is filled with anarchists.

00:15:13.400 And so it was fun.

00:15:14.500 It was fun to like see it.

00:15:16.140 And it was fun to watch it.

00:15:17.300 And it was fun to kind of sit next to it for an hour and everything.

00:15:21.620 The interesting thing is –

00:15:22.280 But I can turn it off.

00:15:23.220 He can't.

00:15:23.820 He's got to go – I mean he can't go at that event anywhere really or events similar to that.

00:15:29.120 So I think it's – I think maybe it would be flattering and maybe fun for a little bit.

00:15:36.440 But I also watched sort of the dark side of it was that I feel like there was a lot of – he felt a lot of pressure on him to be Jeff Berwick, the guy that you know.

00:15:46.480 And I think that that caused some like – I mean he was drinking too much for a while and that stuff kind of happens.

00:15:53.240 And I don't know how much of that is like pressure of having to be on all the time or whatnot.

00:15:59.260 But it seems to me like it would be exhausting.

00:16:02.520 And it would distract from the message too really. 0.99

00:16:04.900 Like your point is like I don't give a shit about that stuff. 0.93

00:16:08.660 I do want people to buy my books of course. 0.96

00:16:10.860 But nobody is going to recognize me in an airport because of the books I wrote.

00:16:18.100 That would be preposterous.

00:16:19.620 So it's just the writing out, right?

00:16:21.080 The discrepancy between that and then someone like Kanye, like I kind of understand why he would have – like it's not that people like that have lost their mind, right?

00:16:28.980 It's kind of like they're something different.

00:16:31.960 You know, their rules of engagement are different.

00:16:34.240 Like when we see celebrities married to each other for like a month and then the next one, I was talking with my wife about it.

00:16:39.020 I was like this is like they're not operating within the normal bounds of human behavior for the entire span of humanity.

00:16:45.820 They are something else.

00:16:47.820 So like I don't know.

00:16:49.280 They don't even know the rules of engagement with each other.

00:16:51.900 It's a very bizarre thing that the internet has created.

00:16:55.100 My business partner was really good friends with some guys that were huge Hollywood stars.

00:17:03.640 And the sort of things that they had to take into consideration were things that I would have never thought of.

00:17:08.840 Like when we go into the restaurant, we have to make sure that that person sits in that chair so that their back is to the rest of the room.

00:17:19.680 Because if it's the other way and the face is to the rest of the room, everyone is going to be recognizing this person all throughout the meal and it would be super inconvenient.

00:17:29.620 So if we can't get a table that's like in another room, then you've got to get a table where this person can sort of hide in place.

00:17:39.260 I mean I watched that.

00:17:41.120 I was just like this is exhausting for me.

00:17:43.160 It's almost like a curse.

00:17:44.980 It's a Nephilim curse. 0.93

00:17:47.020 Like so I worked for Odyssey for a while and I would draw for the content creators there and they would give me this guy.

00:17:55.560 Let's say his name is Let's Play Germany.

00:17:58.060 Okay.

00:17:58.400 And I'm talking to the guy.

00:17:59.360 The guy barely spoke any English.

00:18:00.920 He plays Minecraft in Germany.

00:18:03.140 Millions and millions of followers.

00:18:05.040 They know who he is.

00:18:05.940 They love him. 1.00

00:18:06.980 I say I never heard of this fucking guy in my life. 0.99

00:18:10.620 The guy's making a great living doing this. 0.99

00:18:11.980 But then you move to the next creator and it's the same thing and it just keeps going and going and going.

00:18:17.660 There's so many pockets around the world of these micro niche celebrities that it's like it is like a small curse because of the internet.

00:18:26.600 Like these people wanted to like well kind of what we want to do.

00:18:28.900 I just want to make a living.

00:18:29.700 But then you get into this odd space now where you're like it's like you have this mark on you and it's like what the hell.

00:18:36.320 That was supposed to be reserved for like the really famous and now it's like shrunken down.

00:18:40.680 It's strange.

00:18:41.100 Yeah, it's like Elon Musk starts retweeting your stuff.

00:18:44.860 Yeah.

00:18:45.980 Why?

00:18:46.380 The internet has kind of shown us that it is a curse.

00:18:50.880 And it's one of the good things I think that's come out of the internet.

00:18:52.840 It's like we used to have a consolidated group of celebrities, you know, especially back in the day when it was like your Elvis's and all these high level, you know, artists and actors.

00:19:02.060 And then with the birth of the internet, we got all these microcosms of fame, hyper levels of fame, though.

00:19:08.140 And that really did a couple of things.

00:19:11.640 One, it made fame seem more achievable.

00:19:13.540 But it also spread the message that ultimately all famous people end up spreading, which is it ain't all it's cracked up to be.

00:19:21.000 Right.

00:19:21.280 And so now instead of just having this interview with like an Elvis kind of character who's telling you like it's actually kind of horrible and then you have another you can count the interviews where these celebrities are saying that on two hands.

00:19:32.640 Then the internet comes along and you've got, you know, 50,000 different celebrities within their own microcosms all telling horror stories.

00:19:41.940 And we're also seeing it unfold on the world stage, right, in these giant breakdowns with Britney and Kanye and all these different characters.

00:19:48.580 And I think that I internalized that a long time ago was this idea of like, no, no, no, I don't want fame, dude.

00:19:53.640 I don't want that.

00:19:54.380 I want success and I want to be satisfied with my body of work, but I don't necessarily want to be catapulted to the forefront of the public eye and then scrutinized by everybody who works as a greeter at Walmart.

00:20:06.720 You know, and there's nothing wrong with your greeter at Walmart.

00:20:08.300 You have no control over it.

00:20:09.460 At that point, you have no control over it.

00:20:11.460 I mean, they can make they think that you said something that you never said or they think you did something you never did.

00:20:17.160 And it's like you don't at that point.

00:20:19.700 He did say it.

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00:20:48.540 Yeah.

00:20:49.380 I definitely said it.

00:20:51.060 What's interesting is to kind of tie it into your book. 0.96

00:20:53.140 Like the people who desire this kind of fame, they're all megalomaniac psychopaths. 0.95

00:21:01.100 Like a Barack Obama deep down inside. 0.97

00:21:04.260 Donald Trump wears it on his sleeve, so we know.

00:21:07.080 But an Obama deep down inside wants that.

00:21:09.680 They yearn for this exposure and they'll do anything to get it and then anything to keep it.

00:21:15.640 And what anything am I talking about? 0.99

00:21:18.000 I mean, you fucking name it. 0.99

00:21:20.520 Yeah. 0.99

00:21:21.080 I think it is a curse. 1.00

00:21:24.080 I think that it's a pain in the ass. 0.99

00:21:27.660 Speaking of Obama and fame, I remember driving to work. 0.99

00:21:31.000 I was living in Las Vegas and driving to work and getting stopped at a red light at a big, big intersection.

00:21:37.880 And then the police motorcycles came zipping up and stopped right in front of me.

00:21:46.320 They had their lights on and everything and they were stopping all the cars.

00:21:49.320 And then the other way was this motorcade of just like black SUV after black SUV.

00:21:57.520 And it was Obama coming to give a speech.

00:22:00.100 He was running for president in 2008.

00:22:02.020 Stop, stop.

00:22:02.880 The king of the world is coming.

00:22:04.140 Stop for a moment.

00:22:05.100 And he had a like a 40 car motorcade.

00:22:08.800 It took an entire like cycle of red, yellow, green for the of the of it of them just stopping traffic just for that.

00:22:17.020 And then buses going by, buses with the press and everything. 0.97

00:22:19.940 I was like, God damn, is this the Rolling Stones? 0.99

00:22:21.860 Like I don't. 0.99

00:22:23.140 Then as I'm driving, I hear on the radio, Obama's in town.

00:22:27.780 He's doing a big speech.

00:22:28.580 I was like, that's who it was.

00:22:30.400 It was Obama.

00:22:31.220 And that's where they were going.

00:22:32.400 I know, you know.

00:22:33.260 It's the perfect bait to find the type of psychopath that would want that.

00:22:38.480 Because then I know that then I know you'll do anything for me.

00:22:41.320 Yep.

00:22:41.740 Like I don't like so many.

00:22:43.740 Nobody really wants that.

00:22:44.740 Like when you if you pull the normal person in the street, like, hey, would you want to have like zero privacy the rest of your life?

00:22:50.240 But you can get like into any restaurant you want. 0.89

00:22:53.420 I'd be like, no, that's retarded. 1.00

00:22:54.540 Why would I want?

00:22:55.500 And the one person that says yes, they're like, come over here for a second.

00:22:58.100 Come on.

00:22:58.440 We have an island.

00:23:00.140 Got an island standing in front of this video camera.

00:23:02.100 Yeah, yes, that's true.

00:23:05.160 I wanted to ask you, what's your sort of your origin story look like?

00:23:10.860 Right.

00:23:11.040 Because obviously it's all led you to this point where you're writing books and you're making content and it's all about this, you know, this sort of laser focus on this corruption on a high level.

00:23:19.660 What is it that that got you to the game in the first place?

00:23:23.220 Well, so I knew that 9-11 was wonky, right?

00:23:27.460 Kind of like a year or two after it happened, maybe maybe the two years after it happened. 0.99

00:23:31.980 And as soon as they started talking about we're going into Iraq and I was like, this is some bullshit right here. 0.92

00:23:38.420 So I immediately was distrustful of all that and it started me down this path.

00:23:43.800 But really what happened was in March of 2007, I was going on a trip and right before I left, my buddy came over and he's like, hey, take this book with you.

00:23:54.300 You need to read this book on your trip and it was Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins and I was like, okay, and I read that book and I was like, whoa, like it to me, it kind of opened me up.

00:24:05.200 I was in real estate at the time in Vegas, 2007, booming, right?

00:24:10.380 And what I realized was that in this book, he's talking about how the IMF and World Bank will loan, will give loans to these governments that have really have no way to pay it back.

00:24:20.240 Oh, we'll give Ecuador, you've got the right topography here to build a hydroelectric power plant.

00:24:27.460 It's going to cost $2 billion.

00:24:29.340 You should do it.

00:24:30.120 If you do it, you'll generate – it'll pay itself off in 11 years and it's going to generate all this revenue and you'll have electricity and everyone in the region will have power.

00:24:38.780 Your kids will learn to read at night.

00:24:41.120 It'll be great and all these benefits.

00:24:43.060 And so this – whoever makes the decision, we'll put some money in your Cayman Islands bank account.

00:24:48.900 Don't worry about that.

00:24:49.540 We'll take care of you.

00:24:50.240 And they go, okay, fine.

00:24:51.120 They sign on and the IMF and World Bank are like, oh, we've already approved you for the loan.

00:24:57.180 Well, the money never even touches these people, right?

00:24:59.400 It goes straight to, in his case, a company called Maine, which is like Halliburton, right?

00:25:04.500 Multinational engineering firm.

00:25:06.220 So instead, the money goes from the World Bank.

00:25:09.140 Does it go to Ecuador?

00:25:10.340 No.

00:25:10.500 It goes to Maine and Maine builds the hydroelectric power plant exactly like they said they were going to do it except that the problem is it starts to generate revenue but not enough.

00:25:22.180 Not enough to really – it's less effective than they had said it was going to be.

00:25:29.580 And next thing you know, you fall behind in your payments, right?

00:25:32.460 And then the IMF and World Bank approach Ecuador like any good loan shark with a baseball bat and saying, you owe us a lot of money.

00:25:39.220 We might be able to work something out here.

00:25:42.000 Why don't you privatize your fishing industry and sell it to our buddies or you agree to vote our way in a UN resolution or you put a U.S. military base. 0.95

00:25:52.400 There's some bullshit deal, right? 0.97

00:25:53.560 That's the big one. 1.00

00:25:55.320 Right?

00:25:55.580 So you go, oh, wait a second.

00:25:58.580 And I'm reading this and I'm going, wait a second.

00:26:00.420 Wait a second.

00:26:01.760 I'm working in new home sales, right?

00:26:03.620 And so we have our own separate company that's a mortgage division.

00:26:06.460 I'm like, wait a second.

00:26:07.480 We're giving mortgages to people that can't afford them either.

00:26:11.540 They're definitely going to default on these in a couple of years.

00:26:14.800 You know, adjustable mortgage where you can just pay – no interest.

00:26:20.040 Or you can pay interest only, no principal for a set period of years, and then it's going to adjust up to whatever the interest rates are plus 3%.

00:26:29.760 And that's all in the fine print.

00:26:32.020 And it's like, well, my payment, I qualify.

00:26:34.140 The bank says I qualify.

00:26:36.000 I must qualify, right?

00:26:37.980 And it's like I remember specifically, it was a guy trying to buy a $405,000 house from me, and he made $10 an hour.

00:26:46.940 He was a landscaper.

00:26:48.740 He was a guy that mowed your lawn and did all this stuff.

00:26:51.900 And he was a good guy, and he had a family, and he was excited to buy the house, and I was excited for him to buy the house.

00:26:57.400 And I looked at it – you know, he filled out the two-page application, and I faxed it over to our mortgage department.

00:27:04.760 And I'm looking at it like $10 an hour, and I get a call 30 minutes later, and the guy's like, yeah, we're good to go from our mortgage account. 0.99

00:27:11.640 I was like, fuck, this guy's going to lose the house. 0.98

00:27:13.520 This guy is going to lose this house. 0.99

00:27:15.720 So it clicked to me like the same trick that the banks are using here, which is like loan this money into existence, then wait for the person to default on it, and then take back tangible asset when they default.

00:27:32.700 Well, this is the same thing the IMF and World Bank is doing in Perkins' book.

00:27:36.900 And so then everything collapses, and I lost my house.

00:27:41.200 I had two houses. 0.98

00:27:42.060 I lost my houses and everything, and I was like, god damn it. 0.98

00:27:45.480 I'm in the industry. 0.98

00:27:47.720 You'd think I'd figure it out.

00:27:49.180 You'd think I'd see through all this stuff, and I didn't. 0.99

00:27:51.800 And I realized I was just like a sucker. 0.97

00:27:54.240 I was just a sucker at the three-card money game. 0.95

00:27:56.800 And I didn't know it, and I realized, OK, I need to understand how money works. 0.63

00:28:02.160 I need to really understand it.

00:28:03.720 I need to know what the Federal Reserve is and what the dollar is and what it isn't.

00:28:09.060 And I need to know who these people are, and that started me down this path.

00:28:13.000 And then I wound up in this job where we were taking over a mid-rise condo project that was half built.

00:28:20.260 So we were finishing up the building of it, and I was kind of in charge of selling it.

00:28:25.000 But we couldn't let anyone in during construction, but I had to physically be there.

00:28:29.040 So I was there for like 10 hours a day with the internet and books.

00:28:33.080 And I was just reading books and watching videos and getting into all this stuff.

00:28:37.100 And this is 2008, no, 2009, 2010, right around there, 2011, getting into that.

00:28:46.240 And I am just so far down the rabbit hole at this point.

00:28:49.780 So I used this time as an opportunity to educate myself on this.

00:28:56.560 And then eventually, a couple of years down the road, I was just having a normal conversation with my mom

00:29:03.340 and explaining some new conspiracy I had discovered or something like that.

00:29:07.580 And she was like, this is interesting.

00:29:09.620 It's really fascinating stuff that you found.

00:29:11.940 And you know about all these different things.

00:29:14.600 But she was like, so what's the plan?

00:29:17.360 What are you going to do with all this information? 0.97

00:29:20.040 I was like, damn, I don't know. 0.90

00:29:21.700 I didn't know I had to – I didn't have a plan. 0.98

00:29:25.200 I was just curious.

00:29:26.040 I just wanted to know about it.

00:29:27.940 And then I started thinking, well, maybe I could like do a documentary.

00:29:31.420 And I'm like, I don't really know.

00:29:32.400 Again, back to the technical stuff.

00:29:34.140 I really don't – here's me editing the worst documentary ever.

00:29:37.580 So I was like, maybe I'm not going to do that.

00:29:40.740 And then I thought, man, I could write something.

00:29:42.560 So when I wrote the Octopus book, I wrote it in total secrecy.

00:29:46.060 I did not tell anybody I was writing.

00:29:47.920 I didn't tell my wife.

00:29:49.120 I didn't tell my mom.

00:29:50.720 I didn't tell my friends. 1.00

00:29:51.860 Fuck. 0.99

00:29:52.240 I didn't – I haven't unpacked all my books. 0.99

00:29:53.900 It's right there in that box.

00:29:55.020 But it should be on this shelf.

00:29:58.020 Well, I'll tell you what.

00:29:59.000 Speaking of boxes filled with books, my wife found out because I – the day that I was – the publisher was sending the books to my house, I had to run out and do something.

00:30:10.140 I came back and there's a box.

00:30:11.880 And my wife's like, oh, I'm going to open this up, thinking it's filled with toilet paper or light bulbs or something. 1.00

00:30:16.600 I don't know. 1.00

00:30:17.220 And there's all these books with my stupid face on the back of it. 1.00

00:30:21.060 And she's like, what is going on here? 1.00

00:30:24.760 And she called me and she's like –

00:30:26.440 Explain that.

00:30:27.120 She goes, don't come home.

00:30:28.360 And I was like, why?

00:30:29.480 What happened?

00:30:30.000 She's like, there's a bunch of books here.

00:30:33.200 Would you mind explaining that?

00:30:34.360 I'm like, I wrote – surprise.

00:30:35.900 I wrote a book.

00:30:36.900 And she's like –

00:30:37.280 It's a pretty big book too.

00:30:38.520 So like you've been writing this –

00:30:39.980 It's 540 pages.

00:30:42.960 And I wrote this in like in the middle of the night.

00:30:45.760 I was sneaky.

00:30:46.800 I'd sneak out of bed and be like –

00:30:49.020 Write like another chapter.

00:30:50.260 So I write something that like –

00:30:51.580 And so I was doing this stuff at all hours of the night.

00:30:55.540 And she probably thought I was cheating on her or something. 1.00

00:30:59.340 And she threw me out for two days for emotionally cheating on her for writing the book.

00:31:04.120 I was like, I mean, like talk to some of your friends.

00:31:08.660 Or you're writing the book.

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00:31:35.840 What's that?

00:31:38.820 How long of a period were you writing the book?

00:31:41.500 About a year.

00:31:43.560 And so you managed to – she had no idea for a year?

00:31:46.420 Dude, that is –

00:31:46.640 This is psychotic behavior.

00:31:48.380 I love it.

00:31:49.340 In retrospect, well, here's the thing is that at first, my reasons for secrecy changed.

00:31:57.680 At first, my reason was I don't want to be on the hook with my friends and go,

00:32:01.860 hey, man, did you ever finish that book?

00:32:03.780 No, I didn't do it.

00:32:04.940 So I didn't tell anyone because I didn't want any sort of obligation.

00:32:08.840 I didn't want expectations.

00:32:10.260 I didn't want anyone to hold me accountable for this book,

00:32:12.940 this imaginary book that I think I'm going to write.

00:32:15.080 And as I'm writing it, I get about halfway through, I realize I'm going to finish this.

00:32:19.840 This is working for me.

00:32:22.820 And then it changed to instead of me like not worried about not finishing it,

00:32:28.940 it was I don't want to stop.

00:32:30.500 I don't want somebody to stop me.

00:32:31.800 I don't want somebody to say, what are you doing?

00:32:33.620 Like who are you going to sell this book to?

00:32:35.460 Nobody knows who you are.

00:32:36.820 You don't – this isn't going to work.

00:32:39.200 This is a waste of time or there's got to be better uses of your time than this or whatever the excuse is.

00:32:44.560 So it changed and now she's on board.

00:32:51.020 But she was – I was like, I was like, you know, listen, don't go like complaining to your friends about how your husband's cheating on you by writing a book,

00:32:59.660 considering how bad it can be.

00:33:01.760 I could be on an island somewhere, right, with a bunch of kids, right?

00:33:05.340 It could be a hell of a lot worse than –

00:33:08.560 If I wanted to cheat, I could have cheated.

00:33:10.620 I could have cheated this much is how much I could have cheated. 0.99

00:33:12.780 I did this corny shit instead. 0.99

00:33:14.540 But, yeah, I took the same path. 0.99

00:33:17.300 Like I was – you know, I drew when I was younger.

00:33:20.240 And my wife, the whole time she knows me, I like I don't really draw that much.

00:33:23.240 I play guitar more.

00:33:24.720 And one day I was like, I want to make my own T-shirts.

00:33:26.560 And then I just started drawing.

00:33:28.180 And then that started going longer and longer. 1.00

00:33:29.940 And she was like – like she would give me shit. 0.99

00:33:31.460 She'd be like, why are you doing this? 0.99

00:33:32.680 Like stop – like stop drawing.

00:33:34.380 Come, let's go do something else.

00:33:35.500 And I was like, I got to finish drawing for Josh Smith.

00:33:37.720 You know, I got to draw.

00:33:38.520 I actually drew you.

00:33:39.760 I'm the one who told Josh.

00:33:41.340 Yeah, I was like, you got to have Charlie on.

00:33:43.080 And then I drew Charlie.

00:33:44.640 I got it.

00:33:45.860 Yeah, she's like, this is like a – this is futility, whatever you're doing.

00:33:50.520 And I guess I proved her wrong to a point, but whatever.

00:33:52.860 We still got more to do.

00:33:53.800 We got more to do still.

00:33:55.360 But that's how it starts. 0.99

00:33:56.140 You got to like just keep on chipping away at some bullshit and keep going. 0.98

00:33:59.500 You've got to follow your dream. 0.98

00:34:02.480 If you've got a good one, you know.

00:34:03.860 I mean your dream can't be like, I'm going to be the president of the United States someday.

00:34:09.700 The dream has got to be something like realistic.

00:34:12.060 It's like I'm going to write a book.

00:34:13.800 Start with writing a book, right?

00:34:15.500 You know, start there before it's like I'm going to have a podcast and I'm going to do this.

00:34:19.260 It's like slow down, dude.

00:34:21.060 You could barely – you couldn't even write a book without your wife's permission.

00:34:24.240 Like you need to like chill.

00:34:26.680 So now I have permission.

00:34:28.040 You got to go behind her back.

00:34:29.500 It's interesting though.

00:34:30.580 When you were describing your time in the real estate market, I want to just track back a little bit because it has some like overlays with what my wife has gone through. 0.96

00:34:38.040 You're in this market and you don't even realize the bubble, the crash, all this shit that's being pulled over your eyes. 0.91

00:34:44.880 But my wife is a registered nurse and she had the same thing done to her and she's now woken up. 0.99

00:34:51.200 And you guys, you had to have your house pulled out from underneath you, two of them.

00:34:54.780 She had her health pulled out from underneath her.

00:34:56.680 And now she's questioning everything.

00:34:58.960 But there's so many people doing this in every aspect of this matrix that they have built for us.

00:35:05.760 And there's like these – there's heretics everywhere in every aspect of – it doesn't matter where you look.

00:35:11.120 I mean look at me.

00:35:11.740 I used to work for the government.

00:35:12.980 And now I'm like nah, we're going the other way because I realized the trap.

00:35:16.640 And I said I'm going to do something different.

00:35:18.040 So it's like interesting time to be alive, interesting time to see people do these things and where does it lead?

00:35:25.620 Yeah, and it was really helpful for me moving forward because I now understand how you can be in an industry and still not see the full picture.

00:35:37.880 In my mind, sure, 43% price appreciation in 2004 in Las Vegas is unrealistic.

00:35:45.720 Sure, it's unrealistic.

00:35:48.020 Maybe – but in my mind, the justification is maybe it will flatten out a little bit.

00:35:52.600 But I don't expect it to come straight back down after a couple of years.

00:35:56.620 And the mortgage situation, for every – well, these loans seem a little fishy to me.

00:36:05.200 You've got a bunch of other people saying, well, they can just refi out of them at some point into a fixed rate.

00:36:10.580 Once this $400,000 house is now worth $500,000, you can just do a refi and now you've got 20% equity.

00:36:18.060 Now you're good.

00:36:19.660 Now you can lock into something else.

00:36:21.800 Maybe the rates are a little lower.

00:36:24.160 Oh, by the way, why do you think prices of homes are going to ever go down?

00:36:28.480 We've got an influx of people from Southern California that are moving to Las Vegas because there's no state income tax and the weather is good.

00:36:34.900 And they don't have the – and there's all these reasons – and I was coming from Southern California myself.

00:36:39.600 So I was like, yeah, you're right.

00:36:40.660 I mean this – so the reasons for – the reasons that I was selling for the reason that Las Vegas was going to be a fantastic place to live

00:36:50.260 and that these prices were justifiable was it's still a third of the price of Southern California.

00:36:55.020 What are you talking about?

00:36:55.820 Why wouldn't you?

00:36:56.440 And so all those things were true, but also there's a pump and dump scheme going on behind the scenes in Wall Street.

00:37:05.400 And there's an economic collapse with Lehman Brothers around the corner that you don't know about.

00:37:10.820 You don't know it's coming, but it's coming.

00:37:12.680 It's always coming, right?

00:37:13.900 So I had to kind of learn.

00:37:16.560 You'd think that the dot-com bubble would do that, but it didn't.

00:37:20.140 And it took the real estate bubble in 2008 to pop for me to really go, oh, I'm starting to see –

00:37:28.420 and even then I had to educate myself.

00:37:30.440 Where are you going to go to learn about money?

00:37:32.940 I mean you've got like Mike Maloney videos.

00:37:35.880 That's a good place to start, right?

00:37:37.380 But you're certainly not going to find it in some textbook about the Federal Reserve.

00:37:40.980 So many people, my cousin's girlfriend, my cousin that was on the show, his girlfriend, she's like,

00:37:46.740 I'm studying economics, and she showed me her book, and I like read through some of it, and I was like, good luck. 0.97

00:37:52.040 Like this is – you're not – you're learning like surface level – not surface level shit. 0.99

00:37:56.060 You're learning like deep technical ways on how this system works, but you don't understand why this system is bullshit. 0.98

00:38:03.960 So it's like you're learning about a fantasy land, and it's just kind of a lot of people like that. 0.99

00:38:08.780 But my mother bought a house in 2007 and got the shit kicked out of her for the next four or five years after that. 1.00

00:38:17.240 What was the collapse in 2008? 0.92

00:38:19.440 And my stepfather was a carpenter, dumped countless hours and his own resources into renoing the house, and it ended up being beautiful.

00:38:28.400 And by the time they were done with the kitchen and the family room and they redid the basement, the housing market had collapsed.

00:38:38.860 And I remember watching them mull over the idea that even if they sold at that moment, they wouldn't have broken even despite all of the money that they had dumped into it.

00:38:51.160 And they're still sitting on that home today.

00:38:53.920 They're looking to sell again, but so many people got wrapped up in that.

00:38:58.640 And one of the things that I think is really interesting about this concept of the octopus of global control is it really speaks to the way that you envision this problem at large, a many-tentacled octopus.

00:39:12.080 I was wondering – can you expand on that a little bit?

00:39:14.440 Did you know that that was anti-Semitic when you knew it?

00:39:16.080 Also, now it's anti-Semitic.

00:39:17.260 I know it was anti-Semitic.

00:39:19.080 Yes, of course I knew it was a problem.

00:39:22.140 Based.

00:39:24.320 So the octopus symbology is obviously not mine.

00:39:29.860 I mean we've got – Danny Casalero wrote a book called The Octopus, wrote it when he was 44, wound up packed in a bathtub in a hotel with his wrist slit and everything.

00:39:41.580 I wrote The Octopus of Global Control when I was 44.

00:39:44.280 Believe me, I was thinking about that.

00:39:45.600 But there's a quote in the book from John Francis Hyland, the mayor of New York City.

00:39:54.200 And it's like three paragraphs long.

00:39:56.020 And he talks about this octopus with its sprawling tentacles in every aspect of society, in the courthouses, in the media, in the money-making, in the science and everything.

00:40:06.460 And he says, and let me escape from mere generalizations.

00:40:09.840 I'm talking about the Rockefeller Standard Oil octopus.

00:40:13.380 And you get to the bottom of this, right?

00:40:14.940 And you're reading this three paragraphs and you're like, oh, this is exactly what's going on right now.

00:40:19.260 And you're John Francis Hyland, mayor of New York City, 1922. 0.99

00:40:24.620 And you go, holy shit. 0.98

00:40:26.840 It's a century that it's been like this. 0.99

00:40:29.980 You know, you read – I read through it and I'm thinking, oh, this is a guy that's talking about last week.

00:40:35.140 And so the octopus is actually – if you think about it, it's the perfect encapsulation, right?

00:40:40.500 It's an alien-looking thing.

00:40:43.920 It can change color.

00:40:45.220 It can change texture.

00:40:46.900 It can blend in and fit in with the population.

00:40:50.780 It can stand out and it's very fast.

00:40:53.640 It can spray ink and disappear.

00:40:56.000 It can tear you apart with a beak that's hidden underneath it. 0.95

00:40:59.880 You never see it until it's too late.

00:41:01.860 If it can fit its eyeball through an opening, it can fit the rest of its body through an opening.

00:41:08.640 So it can infiltrate everything.

00:41:11.220 And so you look at this octopus and it's really smart, you know, and you go, wow, this is kind of it.

00:41:16.980 It's got eight tentacles.

00:41:18.580 And so –

00:41:19.460 Charlie, have you ever seen the people that eat the octopus, like the smaller one, like the Chinese people, of course, 1.00

00:41:24.360 but they take it and they hold the tentacles like this and they have to swallow it from the head.

00:41:28.320 But if the tentacles seem to get out this way in their esophagus, it'll just suction to their throat and choke them to death there.

00:41:35.680 And it's like, what a psychotic thing to eat.

00:41:38.220 But like really, what a – it's almost like a brave way to live.

00:41:42.620 Like this thing can kill you.

00:41:44.380 It'll be your last meal or maybe it's delicious.

00:41:46.760 Thrill-seeking, right?

00:41:47.780 It's got to be like an adrenaline thing.

00:41:49.560 It's because they can't even be good.

00:41:50.840 What are they just good without any seasoning, without any – like they're just raw.

00:41:54.180 I don't understand why people do that.

00:41:55.420 It's disturbing as hell.

00:41:56.600 The Chinese will eat anything with wings except a 747 too. 0.76

00:42:00.120 I mean just – but imagining it stuck to your – the inside of your throat and it's suffocating you, it really speaks to me when I think about just the name of your book.

00:42:11.160 Because although this – it's what it's doing to the world, this octopus of global control.

00:42:16.480 It is down the world's throat and suffocating it.

00:42:19.080 And the funny thing too is the world probably thought, oh, this looks delicious.

00:42:23.220 I can probably swallow this in one bite.

00:42:25.640 No, you can't swallow this thing. 0.99

00:42:27.360 It's going to kill you eventually.

00:42:29.280 And what do you do about it?

00:42:30.980 It's – well, I think like any problem, the first step is acknowledging you have a problem, right?

00:42:36.240 There's still a huge segment of the population that's like, no, everything's fine.

00:42:40.300 We vote every four years and then – and that's how it works.

00:42:44.820 And it's like, oh, man, that is just like a normie version of reality in what I found.

00:42:51.720 So the format of the octopus book itself I thought was interesting.

00:42:57.600 The way I wanted to go with it was bringing in 700 quotes from 500 different people that had a front row seat to some of this stuff.

00:43:05.400 So like Rockefellers and Rothschilds and Kissingers and Clintons and all those people are in there. 1.00

00:43:10.100 But also the comedians are in it, George Carlin and Bill Hicks and Joe Rogan.

00:43:14.640 You get these little quotes from people that can see this stuff from a different vantage point.

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00:43:45.320 And also a lot of it is like, you know, I sort of took this approach for the way I described it was verbal judo, right?

00:43:57.600 Judo is like using somebody's momentum against them.

00:44:00.800 You know, someone comes flying in with a punch.

00:44:02.520 You don't try to stop it.

00:44:03.840 You try to move out of the way and then direct it somewhere else.

00:44:06.060 So I said I'm going to do verbal judo with these people.

00:44:11.260 I'm going to use the weight of their own words against them because when you hear Henry Kissinger talking about our policy towards the third world is that of depopulation.

00:44:21.340 In a 1974 National Security Council 200 memo, it's not theory.

00:44:30.000 It's not conspiracy theory anymore.

00:44:32.120 It's conspiracy analysis.

00:44:34.040 I'm not theorizing that Henry Kissinger wants to destroy the third world.

00:44:37.940 I'm reading his declassified document.

00:44:40.240 It's right there.

00:44:41.740 It says what they want.

00:44:43.000 And when David Rockefeller goes out and says, my family and I have been accused of being internationalists, we're trying to create a world government and blah, blah.

00:44:53.700 And then you get to the bottom.

00:44:55.340 He says, if these are the charges labeled against me, then I stand guilty and I am proud of it.

00:45:01.240 Now, this wasn't David Rockefeller caught on a hot mic somewhere.

00:45:05.160 This is page 405 of his autobiography.

00:45:07.920 He wrote it himself.

00:45:09.420 It's there.

00:45:10.320 This information is there.

00:45:11.820 If you listen to these people, they'll tell you what they're going to do before they do it.

00:45:16.420 And so I think a lot of that gets buried.

00:45:18.880 I've never heard this before.

00:45:20.080 Of course, you've never heard David Rockefeller say something like that.

00:45:23.120 You didn't see it on NBC News at Rockefeller Plaza in New York City.

00:45:32.480 You didn't see it there in the building that his family owns and built in the news station that his family owns.

00:45:38.380 Like, wow, that's surprising that you didn't hear his plans for world government on the nightly news.

00:45:43.660 Did you think you were going to?

00:45:45.000 So, again, like this information is hidden to the extent that people just don't want to go search for it.

00:45:51.920 So I compiled it in the book and did it in a way that was kind of I mean, it was fun and there's funny and I mean, you have to laugh at the absurdity of some of this stuff.

00:46:00.200 It's crazy stuff. But but also like, you know, it's important to hear the words of these people because they think that they can say anything and do anything and that nobody's going to hold them accountable.

00:46:14.220 And then when the book comes out and it's like it's in there and it's not it's not speculation, it's it's it's some obscure interview that the guy did that he thought nobody was ever going to find.

00:46:24.660 And then you find it. It's like, well, here you go, buddy. Like, what do you want to do?

00:46:28.900 You oh, yeah. Hillary Clinton is fighting for women's rights. 1.00

00:46:31.820 Hillary Clinton used to defend rapists against chill that were that were raping women and children. 1.00

00:46:37.020 Like, you think Hillary Clinton's a good person? Would you like me to show you one hundred and sixteen examples of her saying something horrible?

00:46:44.820 I mean, I can I can lay it all out here.

00:46:48.360 It's such a recording of her where she's she's laughing about her ability to get off the the defendant.

00:46:55.840 She was. Yeah. And then she's she's like cackling about it.

00:46:59.620 Yeah. Oh, it's almost like we came. We saw he died.

00:47:02.880 I mean, she's got a long track record of being a psychopath. 1.00

00:47:08.320 And and most of these people do.

00:47:10.120 You know, I don't know if Tony did this on purpose, but picking you up it like because really thinking about it, your content is like is like the entryway to his content.

00:47:21.720 Yes. You're very much like, look at all this shit. 0.99

00:47:24.880 And he's like, look at this stuff underneath it. 0.99

00:47:28.120 And it's like once you get once you get this this out of macro of what the picture that you're painting, then you're saying, well, why does Henry Kissinger want to kill everybody?

00:47:36.900 Why do the Rockefellers hate us? And it's like, well, there's actually an interdimensional realm with with demons and Nephilim and fallen angels.

00:47:44.340 And they've been conspiring against you since the beginning of time.

00:47:47.180 He Tony Merkle knows what he's doing.

00:47:48.840 He's got the politics. He's got the supernatural.

00:47:51.120 Now he just needs the comedy. Let him know.

00:47:53.100 But yeah, he he nailed it with you.

00:47:54.940 But he's doing something different, right? It's the it's the antithesis of the octopus of global control.

00:47:59.660 It is a many legged creature that that Merkle is is creating.

00:48:03.880 But this one is is in opposition to this this, you know, this Godzilla control.

00:48:09.780 Yeah, it's the Godzilla. There you go. Beautiful. Right.

00:48:12.280 I kind of wonder. I can't help it. My mind goes here.

00:48:15.720 Recently, we had this thing with Greta Thunberg and she's got a little squishy octopus behind her. 1.00

00:48:20.680 And all of a sudden the joke comes out that she is showing signs of anti-Semitism because of what the octopus supposedly represents.

00:48:28.580 And now it's it's kind of become public knowledge.

00:48:33.040 Right. That somehow this this creature is synonymous with anti-Semitism.

00:48:37.060 And I can't help but wonder. I mean, it's it's really an effective club to sort of smash down the opposition with.

00:48:44.280 Right. Because whenever somebody steps up in opposition, one of the easiest ways that especially the mainstream media likes to dismiss them is these accusations of racism or homophobia or sexism.

00:48:54.720 Right. These isms, they're very effective up until recently, I would argue, at at silencing dissent. 0.61

00:49:01.380 And now all of a sudden where where where this octopus of global control is a is a very excellent way of describing it, especially what you just went through.

00:49:12.600 I think it really is an effective symbol that sort of wraps it up and becomes very digestible for somebody to understand.

00:49:19.600 And it almost feels like and maybe, you know, maybe this is a coincidence.

00:49:23.500 I'm not in in the business of believing in coincidence, but this is an effective way to stop that narrative.

00:49:31.220 It's like because symbols are powerful.

00:49:33.160 And if you've managed to boil down what's happening with these these these family bloodlines and, you know, all of this monetary and political corruption and you managed to boil it down into a symbol that people can digest something like an octopus.

00:49:47.240 And it really does resonate with people. Well, now you've got to fight the symbol and you do the same thing that you do with other forms of dissent where it's this ism that ism, you know, you you silence the conversation because to even have the conversation is anti-Semitism. 0.74

00:50:01.420 Is there any part of you that feels like that's sort of what's happening at all?

00:50:05.320 Because you you're in a very, you know, peculiar situation where you may find yourself being the recipient of these hurled accusations.

00:50:14.340 I was I was just on the show with Iggy Normus and I was just saying that memes, it's memes, old memery.

00:50:21.420 That's so powerful. And, yeah, we're dealing with memes. It is kind of like magic.

00:50:26.180 But go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I hate to bury the lead, but Greta is going to write the foreword when I republish.

00:50:33.820 But no, there is there is a chapter in the octopus book.

00:50:39.320 Funny you mentioned this called Student Body Right.

00:50:42.160 Now, the only people who know what student body right means are people that are college football fans back in the late 60s.

00:50:50.920 I went to USC back in the late 60s. We had a running back before he became a wife and waiter, murdering television commentator.

00:50:59.520 O.J. Simpson used to be the greatest running back in the world, and they would give him the ball.

00:51:04.460 And they had this play called Student Body Right. And what it was was basically it's a handoff to O.J.

00:51:09.580 And then the tackles on the tackle and guard on the left pull and they all run to the right.

00:51:14.520 And everybody runs and blocks to the right. And O.J. runs behind him.

00:51:18.580 It's an unstoppable play. They ran that play. Nobody could stop it.

00:51:23.340 They won the national championship. It's when you find a play that's unstoppable.

00:51:28.460 You run it over and over and over and over again until somebody tells you how to stop it.

00:51:33.840 And the chapter Student Body Right was was about Israel, was about their use of the term anti-Semitism as a label to just silence any sort of discussion and debate.

00:51:47.880 And I said that isn't that is the equivalent of this football play.

00:51:51.440 It's unstoppable right now at that time. It's unstoppable whenever some there's any sort of legitimate criticism of Israel.

00:52:00.500 You just slap that title on and it stops, stops the conversation.

00:52:03.920 So so this has been going on for a while. This is not a new.

00:52:07.900 Is it still unstoppable?

00:52:09.720 No, it's that's why I said at the time, at the time, it seemed unstoppable.

00:52:15.040 And when in 2017, in 2023, something has broken, which makes me concerned.

00:52:21.440 Yeah. So like you were just saying, I was I was writing a book about an octopus and the last guy that did it got killed.

00:52:27.660 So, you know, they were they were OK with you writing.

00:52:32.040 They're not they don't really kill people. They're not going to kill Alex Jones.

00:52:34.680 Maybe they will in the future. But I feel like we're getting to a point where we are backing this dangerous animal into a corner.

00:52:42.340 Yes. And it's going to have to do something because the Nazi doesn't work. 0.61

00:52:46.620 Anti-Semitism doesn't work. You can call me every name in the book.

00:52:49.720 You can label people. They're building their own shit. 1.00

00:52:52.540 You can't really stop people the way you were before anymore. 1.00

00:52:56.780 What's next? I know.

00:52:58.780 Well, that's the thing is that they when they put these labels on you, you're you're a Trump loving anti-Semite Nazi. 0.94

00:53:06.840 And you go, OK, let's just say that all three of those things were true. 0.93

00:53:12.400 Let's just pretend that they were true. Now what?

00:53:14.720 Yeah, exactly. Now, now what do I burst in flames?

00:53:19.180 You get more Twitter followers.

00:53:22.900 The power doesn't work anymore.

00:53:27.040 They've they've overused it when everybody's a Nazi. 0.99

00:53:30.120 Trump's a Nazi and Greta's a Nazi. 0.95

00:53:32.780 And this person, if everybody's if your grandmother who wanted to not go into the hospital during covid, she might be a Nazi or Nazi adjacent. 0.99

00:53:41.120 And you're like, well, then how bad is a Nazi? 0.64

00:53:43.380 Really? You guys have you guys have worn it out.

00:53:45.560 The term carries no weight anymore.

00:53:47.420 Yeah. Or if you're if you're keeping books out of elementary school libraries that have to do with inverting your penis or something like that, that's the equivalence to book burning. 0.97

00:53:56.120 And that's Nazism. There's it if everybody is that nobody is. 0.97

00:54:00.720 And it's now a term that means nothing.

00:54:02.680 I had a small experience on Twitter where somebody called me a racist and I I said, ha, ha, ha, ha.

00:54:08.460 Yes, I am.

00:54:09.100 Like just kind of. And then I said, you can't use that word against me.

00:54:12.080 It means nothing.

00:54:12.660 And, you know, me and a bunch of people had a laugh.

00:54:15.620 And the only reason that it worked is because people know that it's it's not true.

00:54:19.320 It doesn't mean anything anymore.

00:54:20.800 You're just writhing when you no longer have a point to make when you can't articulate or defend yourself intellectually.

00:54:27.720 Then that is a used to be an effective hammer to just chuck in someone's face.

00:54:31.880 And those days are gone.

00:54:32.660 I do think top is right.

00:54:34.440 We've we've rounded a corner very recently.

00:54:37.500 And I'm responsible.

00:54:39.220 Shout out to Jose.

00:54:40.420 Yeah, top is responsible.

00:54:41.360 Oh, sorry.

00:54:42.100 Yeah, I am.

00:54:43.320 What does worry me is what comes next, because the rhetoric is failing.

00:54:49.120 And when rhetoric fails, then oftentimes action is around the corner.

00:54:53.160 And are we coming to a place where, you know, the rhetoric was part of the the the writhing and the the sort of the the flailing as the system is going down.

00:55:03.200 And now that the rhetoric is no longer working, I anticipate a higher level of desperation, a more effective bludgeon that they're going to wield against us, because I don't know what that is.

00:55:17.940 If that's, you know, some sort of full blown censorship or or, you know, we enter a place where you we were just talking about it the other day, you can no longer get to your vehicle because your social credit score.

00:55:29.500 If they roll that, you know what I mean?

00:55:30.540 Like there's all kinds of terrible implications that could be coming now that the words aren't working.

00:55:35.580 But the thing is, it's like you're going to they're getting to a point where they're going to have to exclude everybody from everything, which means that people are resilient.

00:55:43.800 Like, I'm I'm a big believer that if you take if you just took the current government of the United States.

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00:56:17.560 Disappeared it overnight, like everything gone.

00:56:20.240 And I'm not saying to do anything to these people.

00:56:22.100 I'm just saying, like, you know, it didn't exist anymore. 0.98

00:56:24.860 People would still be here and still organize voluntarily and do shit voluntarily.

00:56:29.120 It wouldn't we wouldn't just cease to exist. 0.92

00:56:31.020 So they're getting to a point now where if you you're now calling everybody a Nazi, then now now you are in the minority and you're not going to have the power to pull these strings.

00:56:42.180 So, yeah, maybe something physical.

00:56:43.380 Definitely a false flag is coming.

00:56:44.860 We all know.

00:56:45.500 Oh, yeah.

00:56:46.180 Yeah.

00:56:46.380 It's false flag season.

00:56:49.460 And I still have my Halloween decorations up.

00:56:53.140 But it feels like it that we're coming to that.

00:56:56.440 I mean, it feels it feels it feels like it and they're they love it.

00:57:02.120 It's very effective, right?

00:57:03.720 It's very effective to get people.

00:57:05.160 It's a distraction.

00:57:06.620 It's it can create us versus them. 0.63

00:57:10.000 It gets, you know, problem, reaction, solution.

00:57:12.300 If you've got, you know, this is how I see.

00:57:15.300 This is my fictional scenario that I think is very reasonable.

00:57:18.900 It's crazy and diabolical, of course, but it's I think it's reasonable to expect something like this, something along the lines of this.

00:57:24.880 Let's just say that there is somebody that goes into.

00:57:30.200 Oh, name the synagogue and starts shooting everybody up. 0.98

00:57:35.640 Right. 0.91

00:57:36.520 And then and it's a massacre.

00:57:38.940 Right.

00:57:39.400 Kids, women, children, kids, whatever. 1.00

00:57:41.060 I mean, everybody goes and and it's very important that we find this person.

00:57:46.660 Then it turns out that they find the person.

00:57:48.500 And then it turns out that this person had been writing about this for a long time on social media platforms, on Reddit. 0.94

00:57:57.320 He said he's going to do it, but he goes under the screen name goat fucker one, two, three. 0.94

00:58:02.600 Right. 0.96

00:58:02.780 And we didn't know who he was.

00:58:03.800 And we just, you know, mistake.

00:58:05.600 You know, we couldn't figure this.

00:58:06.880 He was using a VPN.

00:58:08.460 He wasn't using his real name.

00:58:10.220 And if only we had known who he was, there was plenty of advanced knowledge of this.

00:58:17.180 We just couldn't figure out who it was.

00:58:18.820 But if only we had known we could have stopped this mass murder.

00:58:23.520 So on my desk is a law, a bill that is 8000 pages that we wrote last night.

00:58:30.540 And boom, you know, it's like already ready to go.

00:58:32.980 And Charlie, this is the Internet ID card.

00:58:35.940 This is the you've got to be verified to get on Twitter.

00:58:40.240 This is all that stuff wrapped up in the one.

00:58:42.480 So I expect an Internet false flag and Internet.

00:58:48.500 It's something to justify the Internet ID card.

00:58:51.560 Have you seen what Nikki Haley has been calling for, Charlie?

00:58:54.100 Because it's exactly she's taking a break from saying that we all must support Israel or else to say, I need to have everyone's identity on the Internet.

00:59:03.960 She's doing the Jordan Peterson thing, which I spoke about before.

00:59:06.880 I think he's a clone.

00:59:08.180 He died in Russia, probably.

00:59:10.580 She's really she's doing she's calling for that now.

00:59:12.880 But she's got the power to actually possibly has a power to influence in that in that direction, which is it's scary.

00:59:21.200 What's more scary to you?

00:59:22.280 So that or taking down the Internet completely?

00:59:26.320 Oh, well, I mean, taking down the Internet completely also kind of screws up their messaging and it messes up their businesses, too.

00:59:36.300 I mean, I know it's not about making money.

00:59:37.960 It's about control.

00:59:38.760 But but you've got a docile population at home as long as the power is on and as long as the Internet is on and things like that.

00:59:48.640 You take that away, you create unintended consequences, which is, well, I guess the Internet's not on.

00:59:55.280 So now I can go out and, you know, go do something else.

00:59:58.880 Right. And then so so you're going I don't know that these people necessarily want.

01:00:04.800 There's a lot of predictive programming about the power grid going down.

01:00:08.200 So I think the power grid going down is probably more feasible than the Internet going down.

01:00:12.780 I think that what they would love to do in an ideal situation for them would be keep the Internet on, but regulate the hell out of it.

01:00:20.540 So that they so that only, you know, so you can still use it to buy stuff at Amazon and all that good stuff.

01:00:26.760 But it's just it's just not the Wild West of the Internet.

01:00:29.920 It's the Internet 4.0 or whatever they want to call it, where it's yeah, it's the Internet.

01:00:35.840 But but we know who you are and you're not you're not just an anonymous person online saying mean things in a chat room.

01:00:43.460 We do this for your safety, for the safety of everybody else.

01:00:46.800 We need to know who you are.

01:00:47.860 If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about.

01:00:50.040 Right. I mean, they'll run out all of the psychological operations, all of the terms that they use to make you feel bad or guilty.

01:00:59.200 Like, oh, you you you think you want your privacy? Privacy is gone.

01:01:03.160 Right. Harari told us that you think your privacy is dead.

01:01:06.380 You know, you soul. You don't need a soul. You don't have a soul. You don't need that.

01:01:10.280 You know, so it's like a slow whittling away of these things.

01:01:14.920 The totalitarian tiptoe is David. I calls it. Right.

01:01:17.580 Whereas you just sort of incrementally move towards this.

01:01:20.800 And next thing you know, you've you've agreed to you've agreed to because you want to be on Twitter.

01:01:26.700 You've agreed to do the biometric thing. You've agreed to to to scan your driver's license and put that in and tie it.

01:01:33.560 And you just said, I don't care. I want to be part of this.

01:01:35.980 It's like that's a slippery slope. That's like one step away from, you know, all this other stuff.

01:01:41.660 I mean, I expect them to go hard after VPN makers and things like and groups like that.

01:01:46.720 Anybody that wants any sort of privacy, any sort of like Monero advocates, like get ready for it.

01:01:54.880 They're coming for you. Anybody that wants to do things that's outside of the purview of the government or the world government,

01:02:02.320 they're going to try and make you sound like you're part of the problem because that's how they do it.

01:02:09.480 So I expect that. I don't want it, of course. I'm not trying to speak it into existence.

01:02:13.100 But I think it's long past that. I think I think these guys these guys know they need to take control of the Internet.

01:02:19.440 They just don't know exactly how they're going to do it.

01:02:21.560 Yeah, I think that they do want to take control of it.

01:02:24.900 They do want to create a homogenized version of it, a sterilized version of the Internet.

01:02:27.900 Right. Because as soon as you let's say we do have a power grid attack. 0.99

01:02:33.020 Well, that's a much different scenario. It it'll push people outside the system for them to launch a power grid attack. 0.99

01:02:43.720 They had better. That's kind of an end game thing. Right.

01:02:46.440 Like that's that's one of the things they have before something really, really absolutely major happens, which that in itself is major.

01:02:51.920 But the Internet is a fundamental part of the bread and circus that they have running.

01:02:57.100 And as soon as you take that away from us, you're going to push us outside.

01:03:01.080 I was actually just talking about this the other day. It's like, you know, my dream is to create content that helps people to see the mechanisms that are that are aimed against them.

01:03:09.720 That's that's what I want to do. And I want to make a living doing that.

01:03:12.320 And then all of a sudden I have to start thinking, well, if everything goes down, what do I do?

01:03:17.120 And we had a bunch of jokes on Twitter, but I started to seriously consider getting equipment for like an AM station, you know, to to create my own AM station.

01:03:26.400 I'm not the only person who's thinking something like that. Right.

01:03:29.640 So if you kill the Internet, you're going to push people outside.

01:03:32.740 And that's the last thing that you want. COVID was a really good example of that.

01:03:35.580 They don't want us outside. They want us inside.

01:03:38.200 They want us hooked up to the slow IV drip of the bread and circus.

01:03:41.160 We we want Netflix. We want video games. You want the Internet.

01:03:44.420 We want to be engaged on social media. And look, sure, there are dissenting voices.

01:03:48.160 But if you can keep them, there's always going to be dissenting voices.

01:03:50.960 If you can keep them just within the confines of social media and not the streets of America.

01:03:58.160 Well, that's something right. That's better than than having them out there marching.

01:04:01.940 And so I would I would agree with you.

01:04:03.940 I don't think that they I think it's much more profitable for them to create a version of the Internet where we still want to ingrate, engage, whether or not it's begrudgingly, because it's not the same thing that it used to be.

01:04:17.100 We're still going to engage. So many of us will settle for a shittier version of the Internet than no Internet at all.

01:04:23.040 So I think it's much more advantageous for them to to create, you know, a much more censored version.

01:04:27.980 We already we already have settled for it.

01:04:29.740 I mean, the Internet has gone through like such a degradation in phases from the Wild West to Twitter 1.0.

01:04:37.380 Now we have Twitter 2.0. And that's more like a like here.

01:04:40.740 Like that's like more nostalgia. I think we were talking last last week about nostalgia, like the generation of nostalgia.

01:04:46.200 So, oh, remember when we could say, you know, the N word?

01:04:48.660 Well, you can do that again. But the Faustian bargain is like the end game.

01:04:53.480 Like I'm always thinking about like, OK, they'll give us the Internet, but they're not going to give you the Internet forever.

01:04:58.320 They'll take it away when they've reached a certain point.

01:05:01.180 And what that point is, it could be the, you know, the the A.I. thing with Neuralink, with whatever Elon Musk is doing.

01:05:08.560 So that honey trap of like here, I'll give you this.

01:05:10.580 But, you know, you got to give up your soul that that might be the end of it.

01:05:15.020 I don't I don't know.

01:05:16.000 Oh, I'll make the Neuralink so good that the the Internet interfacing with the Internet through Neuralink, it's like Neuralink is amazing.

01:05:23.900 But the Internet in the state that it's in is causing schizophrenia in people who have Neuralink.

01:05:28.900 If we want to continue to have Neuralink and, you know, go down this amazing route of human technology integration, we need a sterilized version of the Internet.

01:05:37.720 That's not going to cause people to lose their minds. And maybe maybe then they'll do it.

01:05:40.980 Yeah. There has to be a reward. You know, we have to be willing to give something up or gain something rather in order to have the Internet have in comparison to what it is now.

01:05:51.360 The Internet's making people mentally ill already.

01:05:55.240 It's it's it's really putting people in a state.

01:05:58.440 Yeah, I know you're responsible for if you have institutionalized it more than more than your share of of people that are just tired of arguing with you and trying to to they've done trying to figure out what you are.

01:06:11.200 Who are you? What are you all about?

01:06:12.920 You seem to I called you retarded and then you agreed with me that you were supposed to do that. 1.00

01:06:18.440 You know, people don't see coming. 0.98

01:06:21.520 I was happy driving my truck. I was very happy until these people decided to turn everything upside down.

01:06:28.020 I would have I wouldn't want I wouldn't have done any of this dumb shit, but you made me do it. 0.99

01:06:32.540 So now deal with it. 0.99

01:06:33.940 Again, that's the thing. That's the law of unintended consequences.

01:06:37.340 They they do this stuff and they don't know that it's going to create jihadis.

01:06:43.420 Right. I mean, people that are like really against them for it's like this is this is like I had no problem with you until you start fucking with me. 0.99

01:06:51.120 Now it's my mission to get you back for it's like all they had to do was nothing or less of what they were doing. 0.72

01:06:57.380 Let's be less authoritarian, less obvious about it.

01:07:00.160 But you guys did it. So you brought this on yourself.

01:07:03.040 And I always say I just wanted to drive truck.

01:07:05.520 Yeah, that's it. You just wanted to that.

01:07:08.020 Exactly. And they wouldn't let you.

01:07:11.000 And next you just wanted a hamburger at McDonald's. Right.

01:07:13.900 And then they just wouldn't. And then then it set you off on this path.

01:07:17.900 Like falling down. Now I'm Michael Douglas.

01:07:20.820 You are. You are. You are. But but again, like, can you can you blame him?

01:07:26.780 It's like when you when people watch that movie, they're like, oh, that movie is that movie is all these things.

01:07:31.000 It's like, yes. But can you blame this guy for losing his shit? 1.00

01:07:35.620 You're like, oh, it's just a small thing. 1.00

01:07:37.340 Now, it's a series of small things that end in frustration.

01:07:41.360 And then and then it's the it's just the spark that lights it.

01:07:45.840 So, again, these people that are trying to create a world government and they're very open about it's not theory.

01:07:51.580 It's it's it's what they want to do.

01:07:53.700 They they they.

01:07:56.820 They aren't bringing the best and brightest, let's be honest.

01:08:00.120 I mean, there's a lot there.

01:08:01.240 There's but when when when covid, you know, that that that sort of operation rolled out and you're and you just know that they were like, oh, yeah, they'll just line up for the shots.

01:08:11.060 And then when everybody didn't, when like a third of the population were like, I don't think so.

01:08:15.980 They're like, well, what's our backup plan?

01:08:18.160 Like, I don't know. Donuts, lottery tickets, give them cheeseburgers, cheeseburgers with Bill de Blasio.

01:08:23.020 We can have Bill de Blasio cut an ad.

01:08:24.520 Is that is that good?

01:08:25.740 Yeah, go for it. Do it.

01:08:27.040 I wish I could see the numbers on that. 0.99

01:08:28.900 Like how many people got their fucking shots because of the cheeseburger? 0.98

01:08:32.000 How effective was the cheeseburger campaign or the beer, the single beer campaign? 0.99

01:08:36.320 I would love to know.

01:08:37.520 I want to see those people, the people that were on the fence that weren't about it.

01:08:40.880 But we're won over into taking an experimental vaccine by cheeseburgers. 1.00

01:08:46.400 They must have felt so stupid. 0.97

01:08:49.320 Those people that that that agreed to do take the shot in exchange for two laps around Talladega, 0.99

01:08:54.940 because what they don't know is that I held out for four.

01:08:58.040 You know, my my supervisor, my old job, he was like he told me he was like, I was up all night last night because I was waiting in line.

01:09:05.940 And I was like, for what?

01:09:07.360 He's like, I got the vaccine. 0.99

01:09:08.800 And then he shows me and I was like, you've got to be fucking kidding me. 0.94

01:09:11.260 And then a couple months later, they're like, like, you can get this smoothie. 0.99

01:09:14.020 And he's like, he's probably just kicking himself like, God damn it. 0.99

01:09:16.720 I could have got the smoothie. 0.98

01:09:17.740 I want to ask you, you know, all of we're talking about the octopus of global control.

01:09:26.620 We're talking about these these families, the Rothschilds and how much stock do you put on a scale from definitely not maybe and certainly do you put into the idea that there is a paranormal undertone to this?

01:09:43.260 There is a ancient bloodline aspect to all of this, that this this octopus is part of a plan that has been the backdrop to humanity ever since we were first conceived and has been following us along.

01:09:59.300 Well, early on, I would have been dismissive of that stuff.

01:10:04.880 But the thing is that through what I've my work, what I've discovered is that it matters to them.

01:10:16.000 Like a lot bloodlines and all that stuff really matters to them.

01:10:21.080 So even if I if I'm dismissive of and go, oh, that's just nonsense.

01:10:25.520 Well, why is it so important to them?

01:10:28.160 Blue bloods, you know, all this tracing your bloodline back and all this.

01:10:32.300 And I started to to recognize that my bias was getting in the way a little bit.

01:10:39.840 Me being just like, oh, I don't think that there's anything to that.

01:10:43.260 And then finding out that that in fact, I think there is.

01:10:46.880 I think that there there is some look, there's a lot they make.

01:10:51.820 They build amazing statues and pyramids.

01:10:54.580 And there's a whole lot of talk about the things that have gone on before.

01:10:58.100 We don't know anything.

01:10:59.480 We don't know anything about our real history.

01:11:01.220 We don't know anything about our calendars.

01:11:03.540 We don't know anything about where we came from.

01:11:06.320 We don't even know where we are. 0.98

01:11:08.320 You know, I mean, we don't know shit. 0.95

01:11:10.180 It's just round and flat. 0.99

01:11:11.560 What the fuck is going on here? 0.98

01:11:13.000 I mean, we just we just really only know what they allow us to know. 0.99

01:11:18.000 And so for you know, it's easy to be dismissive and go supernatural powers, interdimensional things.

01:11:23.920 Well, listen to Geordie Rose talk about that from from D-Wave, right?

01:11:27.720 This founder of the quantum computer making companies talking about dragging information from other dimensions.

01:11:33.080 Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:11:35.520 What are you talking about here?

01:11:36.860 CERN?

01:11:37.720 You know, these things.

01:11:38.540 We're making contact with with things and we're getting, you know, you there starts to after a while you you you can ignore it if you want.

01:11:49.000 And I think you can probably live a full life just living in this world with no knowledge, understanding or anything of that.

01:11:57.000 But if you want to know a little bit more, you have to open your mind to the possibility that there are things going on outside of the realm of what we see with our own limited vision and hearing and thoughts and our little minds and everything.

01:12:13.420 And it will lead you to a point where there's questions.

01:12:16.040 There's questions about our origins.

01:12:17.780 There's questions about why is it that we only use a certain percentage of our brain?

01:12:22.140 Why is it that there's some weird stuff with our DNA?

01:12:25.280 Why is it that at a certain period during the time when when a baby is forming, it's looks like a reptilian?

01:12:34.080 Why is that?

01:12:34.960 You know, I mean, like that, like there could be a perfectly good explanation for this, that we share a ton of DNA and it doesn't end up.

01:12:44.240 The baby doesn't end up coming out looking like a reptilian.

01:12:47.340 So in the end, it's still a human baby, right?

01:12:49.660 And you go, OK, yeah, I agree.

01:12:51.440 But but why at that one phase does it look like a lizard?

01:12:55.840 Why when I go to London in the city of London in particular, when I was there a couple of years ago, is all of the artwork and sculptures dragons? 0.86

01:13:06.020 Why are they so fucking obsessed with lizards?

01:13:10.340 And I was in the I was in the Tower of London. 0.98

01:13:12.640 They had this suit of armor and it was like the helmet and everything.

01:13:15.860 And on the top of it was a was a was a lizard on the top of this guy's helmet.

01:13:21.860 I was like, and of course, I'm with my family.

01:13:24.440 I'm just like, I can't talk about, you know, like I can't talk. 0.99

01:13:27.280 I'm trying to like there's fucking lizards everywhere in this place. 0.98

01:13:30.680 You know what I mean? 0.98

01:13:31.140 So I'm I'm freaking out, but I'm trying to play it cool.

01:13:34.980 Look, I think that there's something going on that's out of the realm of our understanding and and and that we can dismiss it if we want to, because it's easy to do that.

01:13:46.740 And it all feels a bit science fiction.

01:13:48.620 And it's kind of hard to prove a lot of this stuff, too.

01:13:51.220 So it's like you and people should go, well, you're you're you're winding up in the David Icke lizard people realm.

01:13:57.060 It's like, well, I mean, I'm not scared of that.

01:14:00.280 I'll look at I'll look at all kinds of things, you know, but there's their writings, their sculptures, their artwork, their their whole world revolves around the right bloodlines.

01:14:14.580 And if you're the wrong bloodline, you know, we've got to get Princess Diana in here. 1.00

01:14:18.140 She's a Merovingian.

01:14:19.380 We've got to get her. 0.84

01:14:20.120 And then as soon as she's, you know, has a couple of kids and we can she can die in a car accident. 1.00

01:14:24.420 We don't give a shit about that. 0.99

01:14:25.460 You know, so so you see that these royals are very much into this. 0.99

01:14:32.780 And so because if you're watching them, then by default, you have to watch what they're into.

01:14:39.400 You have to wonder you have to ask why they have these secret ceremonies, why everything is about symbols, why everything is about the dragons and lizards and and whatnot.

01:14:49.140 And who is Geordie Rose thinking he's talking to in these parallel dimensions and what information is he dragging back into this?

01:14:57.220 So, you know, I look, I don't have the answers to that.

01:15:00.740 But I think that if you if you try to understand why the world works the way it does, it will it will lead you to those people that are rulers.

01:15:11.940 And if you look at what is compelling them to do the things that they're doing, then it may, in fact, lead you to something else that's a little bit out of our visual sight.

01:15:25.720 It drives me crazy whenever I'm talking to someone who is in the political realm, like if I'm talking to a Tim Poole or even a Dave Smith, love Dave Smith.

01:15:34.500 But if I'll bring up like some kind of conspiracy, I have to be careful.

01:15:38.900 You know, I have to approach it with comedy right away.

01:15:42.200 They'll they're like you can see on the face. 1.00

01:15:43.880 They're like this fucking guy. 1.00

01:15:45.360 He said lizard people. 1.00

01:15:46.300 It's like, I don't know.

01:15:47.520 You rail against the CIA who's doing all these overseas wars and these black ops missions.

01:15:51.560 But they're also like doing Project MKUltra.

01:15:55.000 They're also doing remote viewing.

01:15:57.140 They're doing Project Looking Glass.

01:15:58.580 We know that they're doing this stuff and they're probably successful there.

01:16:02.620 I mean, what's coming out now, too, with the UFOs, right? 0.99

01:16:05.740 Like they've been doing this shit for a long time. 0.89

01:16:08.080 Now they're getting to the point where it's basically disclosure. 0.99

01:16:12.060 You know, it's like how could how could we look at only the political side?

01:16:17.380 It's just like one side of this thing and completely ignore the supernatural.

01:16:21.660 That's why I said like both of your shows go hand in hand because it's like, yes, this is happening and this is happening, too.

01:16:28.440 This might be right underneath it.

01:16:29.720 It might be fueling this.

01:16:31.660 The whole bloodline thing is really like that gets my brain going.

01:16:34.900 I've mentioned on the show before, right, David, like was like they want they want super diversity for us.

01:16:40.440 Every every commercial is a black guy, a white wife with they're married and a Chinese or a Spanish baby. 0.92

01:16:47.080 It genuinely is.

01:16:47.880 Yeah.

01:16:48.700 Why?

01:16:49.400 You know, one of the things that adversity is our strength.

01:16:52.100 That's why you know that.

01:16:53.220 Yeah.

01:16:54.640 You know, it's because it's an investment.

01:16:58.160 Very much the way you were describing, Charlie, where you start reading these books and all of a sudden the lens that you look at the world through starts to make a lot more sense.

01:17:06.200 Right.

01:17:06.340 The context that you're looking at things through makes a lot more sense.

01:17:09.560 And that feeling is so overwhelming that it almost locks you into that new paradigm where you were just previously locked into one that like, you know, call it what you will.

01:17:19.360 The normies paradigm.

01:17:20.540 You're locked into this for most of your life.

01:17:22.740 You have an experience where all of a sudden it changes the way you perceive things and things make a lot more sense.

01:17:28.840 And what do you do?

01:17:30.020 You lock into that one.

01:17:31.300 Right.

01:17:31.560 And what people like Dave Smith or name whoever you want, anybody who's heavily into politics, what they're missing is that there is a very strong possibility the individual who's talking to you about reptilians had the same thing happen.

01:17:45.140 They also got a new paradigm that they dusted off an old book.

01:17:49.760 They, you know, started digging and found a new lens to look at things through where all of a sudden it suddenly makes sense.

01:17:56.460 They had the exact same experience.

01:17:58.280 Yours was particular to politics and government corruption.

01:18:02.740 Theirs was something a little bit different.

01:18:05.640 But you both had the same experience.

01:18:08.020 That epiphanous moment of shaking your old worldview up and then dropping it and adopting a new one.

01:18:15.280 It is the same energy, the same feeling, the same emotion, all of this.

01:18:20.780 And for some reason, one who is, you know, in the reptilian camp can also look over to the political corruption and be like, I agree, dude.

01:18:29.000 Absolutely.

01:18:29.560 This and that.

01:18:30.920 But it's not a two way street.

01:18:32.880 Very often people get locked into like, yes, there is an incredible amount of political corruption.

01:18:37.480 And sure, my whole worldview has been shaken up about it.

01:18:41.440 But still, what you're talking about? 1.00

01:18:43.460 No, dude, that's just crazy shit. 1.00

01:18:45.120 Whereas rewind the clock. 1.00

01:18:46.680 Go back six years before you discovered all this stuff about the CIA, before you discovered all this stuff about, you know, the international banking community and all this shit. 0.61

01:18:54.040 And you would have said the same thing if somebody bought you that without context.

01:18:58.400 And so it's a blind spot that it is it's really frustrating because I watch a lot of highly intelligent people exhibit that blind spot where they're sounding the alarm in a very correct way about high level political corruption, but won't entertain this for a second.

01:19:15.700 Because, you know, for a lot of people, not only is it is it an investment, right?

01:19:19.820 You've shaken up one worldview, got out of that burning boat, got into another one that feels a lot sturdier.

01:19:24.980 But also for a lot of people, there's now monetary incentive.

01:19:29.000 They've built a career around this and they cannot sacrifice that that new baby to because that's what happens.

01:19:34.680 Right. If you're in Dave Smith's, you know, point of view, he was running for the presidency.

01:19:39.920 And it's like you've got so much riding on this.

01:19:42.140 Unfortunately, you can't even look over and entertain that in a serious manner because everything will fall apart and you'll be ostracized still.

01:19:50.040 We're still dealing with these. It's like this level of gatekeeping.

01:19:53.320 It's an archetype of of Jesus almost.

01:19:55.960 I mean, Jesus was telling me, he's like, hey, listen, I'm I'm the guy.

01:19:58.920 And there's still so many people, despite what he's doing and despite everything going on around him, they're like, I just can't I can't go that far.

01:20:06.720 You know, we have we have certain boundaries and he's like, no, no, trust me, God sent me here.

01:20:11.540 I'm I'm his son. And they're like, we like you, but we just can't like get past that one thing.

01:20:17.520 You know what I mean? It's like it's kind of it's there's a there's a block with people.

01:20:21.520 And I guess it's a natural thing. And it might be like a protective thing.

01:20:24.760 It might be. So it's definitely a social thing.

01:20:27.360 So. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, you break that.

01:20:30.680 I could you imagine being like at your parent parent teacher conference or wherever and you're known as like the the the dad who's like all into reptilians like people, you know, like that, like you don't need that sort of grief in your life.

01:20:47.860 You know, David Ike talks again, but talks about like how he would walk down the street and people would cross the street to get away from him and everything like that.

01:20:53.840 It's like you have to make this calculation. How far are you willing to go?

01:20:58.000 You know, and once you get to be like at a certain level, like like a Dave Smith or someone like that, who I who who by all accounts really destroyed Laura Loomer.

01:21:09.000 But but I thought that was a.

01:21:10.820 They're talking about talking about lizard people.

01:21:13.180 Yeah, no kidding. But, you know, like you you get to that certain point.

01:21:18.060 And it's like if I start talking about this other thing, there is a calculation that you make.

01:21:24.400 There's a certain percentage of my current listeners, followers, like people that like me or whatever.

01:21:30.660 There's a certain percentage of them that that would just be a bridge too far or it'll discredit everything else I've I've talked about if I talk about that stuff.

01:21:39.580 So I don't love it, but I do understand why that calculation gets made by a lot of people.

01:21:47.460 Of course. And I don't I let I'll just say this.

01:21:51.060 I don't have any particular information one way or another about whether there are lizard people or there are not.

01:21:58.220 But I've I've been wrong.

01:22:01.020 I've I've said that can't happen before only to see that it can happen.

01:22:07.620 And so what I've come to understand is that I need to know how little I know and I need to recognize that I also need to give myself the flexibility to admit if I'm wrong about something, too.

01:22:23.760 And to not not like dig in and be like, I'm going to defend this wrong position forever because nobody I can't ever let somebody see that I I've made a mistake on this.

01:22:34.120 I have I've I'm I guarantee I've got three of my books right in front of me.

01:22:38.260 I guarantee you in that book, in one of these three books, you'll be able to find something that I got wrong.

01:22:43.780 I guarantee it. Right. And I don't love it.

01:22:45.900 And I know that over time, some of the stuff will, you know, will like you said this and it turned out it was different.

01:22:51.900 I reserve the right to change my mind about things if I'm presented with new information that is better than the information I had before.

01:23:00.040 I think that that's the right thing to do, not the wrong thing to do.

01:23:02.700 I think you have to give yourself the flexibility.

01:23:06.680 I'm not saying don't be anchored in your beliefs or anything like that or be wishy washy, but but if you get it wrong, you got it wrong.

01:23:14.540 Look, you're going up against professional disinformation, liars, psychopaths of the highest order, the CIA and the media and all these people and the police and the judges, the court systems.

01:23:26.140 And all these people are very comfortable lying all day long and and you you're going to you're going to get stuff wrong every now and then.

01:23:34.880 But if you say, I, you know, I saw it this way early on, but now over time, I've come to the understanding that I think I might have been selling this at one aspect a little bit short.

01:23:49.640 And in fact, there is maybe a little bit more to this than I was aware of.

01:23:54.020 I didn't have the information back then and now I have the information.

01:23:57.020 So now I have a different opinion.

01:23:58.440 As long as your loyalty is to the truth and getting it right.

01:24:03.260 What's wrong with that?

01:24:04.320 You know, you're going to make mistakes.

01:24:05.860 In a few weeks, we have Jerry Marzinski coming on.

01:24:08.620 I have his book over here.

01:24:09.760 Yeah.

01:24:11.020 Here we go.

01:24:11.540 Yeah.

01:24:11.780 An amazing journey into the psychotic mind.

01:24:13.840 But he brings up this concept in this book right in the second chapter about it being ideas, not even being our own.

01:24:21.660 You know, it's like if we are just antennas and these ideas are in the ether and being whispered to us here or there, how many of our ideas are actually from us?

01:24:33.260 Right.

01:24:33.480 Very few.

01:24:34.400 Some people believe none.

01:24:35.460 But I'm of the camp of like maybe a couple. 1.00

01:24:37.420 Like I'm an idiot. 1.00

01:24:38.420 But most of the stuff that comes to my brain, it's got to be from somewhere else. 0.99

01:24:42.160 So if you take that like line of thinking and you extrapolate that to your prior beliefs or even current beliefs, it's like your beliefs are your ideas are ideas that were presented to you.

01:24:53.020 And you're able to like like a snake just shed it right off.

01:24:56.160 This one doesn't fit anymore.

01:24:57.520 I've tried to put this on and it just doesn't seem to fit anymore.

01:25:00.420 And it's OK to take it and be like, all right, maybe if you don't throw it out, put it to the side.

01:25:04.700 Put it down.

01:25:05.340 This is knowledge that I know.

01:25:06.440 I know. 0.99

01:25:07.180 I don't know all those fucking books in there, libertarian books. 1.00

01:25:09.460 I know all this stuff about economics and Misesi and economics and fucking Hayek and all this shit. 0.99

01:25:16.300 I'm not going to throw it out, but like we'll put it to the side for now. 0.98

01:25:19.880 And that's OK, too.

01:25:21.160 You could you don't have to be married to someone else's idea or something else's idea.

01:25:26.500 It's just an idea.

01:25:27.760 It comes.

01:25:28.380 It goes.

01:25:29.300 Use it.

01:25:30.400 Pick up the next thing.

01:25:31.760 You know.

01:25:32.020 Yeah, we have a coveted relationship with information and it's like so many people are using it the wrong way.

01:25:40.240 So many people are using it as a badge that says, look what I know when this other person doesn't.

01:25:46.180 And then that gives them status.

01:25:48.140 Right.

01:25:48.400 And so, yeah, that's a great I might be wrong, but I'm not lying.

01:25:51.480 In my experience, I've been doing this for a long time, 16, 17 years, and I started this journey when I was a kid.

01:25:59.800 Right.

01:25:59.980 I was 17 years old.

01:26:03.260 I've been wrong a lot more than I've been right.

01:26:05.940 And but I've never been lying.

01:26:08.220 I've always come to the table and just trying to understand.

01:26:10.980 And I know we don't have a lot of time.

01:26:12.720 I know Top said he's got a hard out.

01:26:13.820 I just wanted to ask you quick, Charlie, when it comes to politics, on the highest levels, do you think that we still have input or is this all a song and dance?

01:26:24.960 And when I say the highest levels, I mean, you know, specifically the presidency.

01:26:29.400 Do we do we still have an effect on that, do you think?

01:26:32.420 Or do you think those days are long gone if they ever were here in the first place?

01:26:37.600 Yeah, like I don't think a Trump is a disruptor.

01:26:40.120 Is that intentional or is that like?

01:26:41.760 Yeah.

01:26:42.200 Trump felt like he was allowed to be there for a while and then he wasn't.

01:26:49.280 He is he is the great disruptor.

01:26:51.560 Was he sent sent to divide us in advance of a of a of a major psychological operation?

01:26:59.100 Possible.

01:26:59.760 I think that these people are are put in positions of power for a reason.

01:27:04.040 I don't know how much of of whether or not we want them to be there.

01:27:06.960 We have I mean, you know, every now and then, though, you see Hillary Clinton.

01:27:09.900 Hillary thought she was supposed to be the president and that that has never happened.

01:27:15.740 So sometimes you go, well, maybe the good guys won on this one.

01:27:20.120 Maybe somebody, you know, we voted for anybody other than her. 0.64

01:27:23.820 But I think really at the highest level, it's, you know, it's heads.

01:27:28.260 They win tails, you lose, you know, no matter who is in there, the the permanent state that really kind of runs things there.

01:27:37.220 They're still there might be it might be a different flavor might be, you know, your tyranny might taste a little different, but it'll still be tyranny.

01:27:45.960 And and in fact, you'll bring in the Republican guy, Trump, in order to destroy Republicans because they'll listen to him.

01:27:55.600 And you bring in the Democrat guy in order to destroy Democrats like like Obama.

01:28:00.180 And he destroyed them, you know, from the inside.

01:28:02.780 But everyone voted for him because he was their guy who's on their team.

01:28:05.780 But he was setting up a system that was actively working against them.

01:28:09.860 So I think that a lot of this is theater and I think that a lot of it is a show.

01:28:16.540 And I think that the people that have real power don't want money because they can make money.

01:28:23.520 They can print money all day long.

01:28:25.040 But what they want is a world with fewer of us on it.

01:28:29.420 They talk about that openly.

01:28:31.120 And so I think that where we're going is a is a place of of depopulation and of destruction if they have it their way.

01:28:39.360 But but they make mistakes and humanity seems to always kind of find a way to win in the end.

01:28:45.000 So I'm optimistic that that's where we're going to wind up.

01:28:50.120 That's a great place to leave this episode because it could have that could have went left.

01:28:53.980 But I tend to agree with you, Charlie.

01:28:56.840 I think humanity is amazing.

01:28:58.180 And I think that we're resilient and we'll land on our feet even if a bunch of us die or horrible things happen.

01:29:04.360 So, yeah, I'm optimistic for the future, too.

01:29:06.780 But unfortunately, I do have a meeting like right now.

01:29:10.740 So I'm going to cut the episode and thank you again for coming on with us.

01:29:14.840 We have we have an episode airing with you on Sunday, right?

01:29:17.920 Yep.

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01:29:30.860 Thanks, guys.

01:29:32.120 Hell, yeah.

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01:29:33.220 David, anything before we go?

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01:29:41.060 Charlie, thank you so much for your time, brother.

01:29:42.960 Thanks, guys.

01:29:43.840 See you.

01:29:44.200 All right, guys.

01:29:44.940 Peace out.

01:29:47.380 The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.

01:29:53.700 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

01:29:57.120 If you can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see,

01:30:02.540 you've got them.

01:30:03.880 Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening.

01:30:10.480 And they have.

Nephilim Death Squad - November 20, 2023

010： Macroaggressions w⧸Charlie Robinson

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