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00:01:10.900 Did you call him a nigger, the child?

00:01:14.100 Did you call the child the nigger word?

00:01:16.580 It is my own business. You call him a nigger?

00:01:19.780 Okay, why don't you have the boss to say it right now again?

00:01:21.900 Fuck you, nigger.

00:01:23.980 Okay.

00:01:25.480 Alright, that's what you say.

00:01:28.460 You don't go digging through people's shit, you dumb.

00:01:30.720 Nobody dig into your shit.

00:01:32.440 A little fucking kid just dig, you dumb.

00:01:34.340 That little kid, you call him a nigger?

00:01:36.340 Yeah.

00:01:36.580 The little child?

00:01:38.280 Are you about to hit him? You chase him here?

00:01:40.820 He took my son's stuff.

00:01:42.800 So that gives you the right to call the child, five-year-old, a nigger, the n-word?

00:01:47.020 That's what you're going to call him?

00:01:49.140 That's what you're going to call him.

00:01:50.920 You know, that's a hate speech.

00:01:52.720 And you can be recorded for that.

00:01:55.220 Huh.

00:01:57.260 Okay, we'll see about that, what the n-word has to say about you.

00:01:59.440 Fuck, this is dangerous.

00:02:11.320 I'm not condemning these people.

00:02:13.040 I'm not saying that they're bad people.

00:02:14.540 I'm saying that they're dumb, okay?

00:02:16.000 You haven't figured out that you're being lied to by this machine yet.

00:02:19.260 You're a fucking idiot, and I can't help you anymore.

00:02:21.480 Aliens, dollar collapse, demolishing of the deep state.

00:02:27.480 Just because they've given you, as a conspiracy theorist, everything you've wanted.

00:02:31.100 Don't go on a victory tour just yet.

00:02:33.900 And strengthen your relationship with God.

00:02:41.980 I know that we're almost in World War III.

00:02:44.140 I just don't care that you're retarded.

00:02:46.960 And everything above that is a disrespect to God.

00:02:51.480 I'm somebody that thought I could fix this.

00:02:55.520 And I'm starting to think about having to eat my neighbors.

00:03:02.840 Ladies and gentlemen, we took a week off, but we are back.

00:03:05.440 And it was worth the fucking wait.

00:03:07.700 We have Owen Benjamin in the building.

00:03:09.000 We are live.

00:03:09.500 This is Dangerous Retards.

00:03:10.520 Thank you for joining us once again.

00:03:12.540 Dude, that intro was awesome.

00:03:14.700 It's so funny.

00:03:15.960 I knew it.

00:03:16.460 I knew you'd vibe.

00:03:17.800 You vibe with the Vivaldi.

00:03:19.040 I mean, maybe you think the tech was a little gay.

00:03:21.480 No, I vibed with all of it.

00:03:22.620 I was getting pumped.

00:03:23.860 Like, dropping a beat on Vivaldi is such a good call.

00:03:26.900 Can I just say that?

00:03:27.600 Shout out to Lainey.

00:03:28.620 Dropping an egg in the park, though.

00:03:30.360 Like, what do we...

00:03:31.180 Let's just fucking go right into it.

00:03:32.480 Because this is a...

00:03:33.840 I think it's something that is taking America by storm.

00:03:36.760 And a lot of people are hitting it from a lot of different angles.

00:03:39.900 I'm interested in Owen's angle.

00:03:42.040 And then I'll tell you what I'm deriving from this whole story.

00:03:45.340 But, Owen, lay down the low, man.

00:03:47.600 What the fuck is up with this video?

00:03:49.440 It's one of the greatest days in my life.

00:03:51.960 I woke up and I started seeing this.

00:03:54.940 And I was like, it's happening.

00:03:56.500 And I have something to tell your listeners.

00:03:58.460 In 1991, I had my bike stolen.

00:04:01.400 And like every white American child has said at some point in their life,

00:04:05.920 or even thought, I said out loud, I said, that nigger stole my bike.

00:04:09.920 And then for decades, people treated me like the bad guy, not the bike thief.

00:04:15.880 So feelings are more important than private property laws.

00:04:18.580 Not on my watch.

00:04:20.240 That woman is a hero.

00:04:21.900 She was stolen from.

00:04:23.180 And the age has nothing to do with anything.

00:04:25.280 Autism?

00:04:25.940 Jeffrey Dahmer has autism.

00:04:27.400 Is that now the standard?

00:04:29.620 The issue is the theft, not the word.

00:04:32.320 And five-year-old autistic is just another attempt at creating a ridiculous scenario

00:04:36.500 to get you to break your American ethics and way of life.

00:04:39.640 Don't steal like a nigger.

00:04:42.380 Okay?

00:04:43.320 Age, mental capacity, or even skin color do not matter.

00:04:48.360 The nigger stole the purse.

00:04:50.020 The nigger stole the bike.

00:04:51.700 Deal with reality.

00:04:52.560 And don't apologize like Joe Rogan for 200 million receipts of betrayal.

00:04:58.440 I don't understand how you...

00:05:00.360 Look, before we even go to the Joe Rogan thing,

00:05:01.960 it's a wild thing to say nigger 500 times and then apologize for it

00:05:05.560 as if it was an accident every time.

00:05:07.260 That's a strange move.

00:05:08.820 But it's not lost on me how low the bar for entry is into herodom.

00:05:14.180 All you got to do now is tell a little autistic nigger that he is one,

00:05:18.380 and suddenly you're, what, into the tune of 200-something thousand dollars.

00:05:23.480 I'm not saying she doesn't deserve it.

00:05:24.800 She deserves more.

00:05:26.120 Right, right, right.

00:05:26.960 And that speaks to, I don't know, the state of things, doesn't it?

00:05:31.120 If we haven't pulled this episode from YouTube already, we really need to.

00:05:35.000 This is a world record.

00:05:36.800 Look, I think, here's my concern.

00:05:39.880 And while I appreciate Owen's delivery,

00:05:41.900 and it strikes me as a world-class attorney about to get this lady off

00:05:45.900 or whatever hate crime charges she's going to face,

00:05:48.600 obviously I think that the kid that stole was in the wrong.

00:05:52.840 Her saying that to a child is probably not ideal.

00:05:55.320 I think a civilization that makes someone a millionaire

00:05:57.320 because they called a kid that is probably not ideal.

00:06:00.620 But at the same time, just a month ago,

00:06:03.800 you ship a half a million dollars to a kid who stabbed another white kid in the heart,

00:06:07.600 and it's like, well, this is turnabout.

00:06:10.400 And as they say about turnabout, it's fair play.

00:06:12.180 And therefore, what do we expect to happen?

00:06:14.920 I'm going to have a lot of thoughts on this today, guys.

00:06:17.400 So if I get a little, like, gumpy.

00:06:19.800 All right, so comparing murdering a man with a knife

00:06:23.140 to calling a thief a nigger is not fair play.

00:06:26.200 Like, those are wildly different avenues.

00:06:29.480 Of course.

00:06:29.740 It's like, listen, the black guy murders a young man.

00:06:37.200 A single mom gets robbed and says a word.

00:06:42.240 I mean, let's not get divided here.

00:06:44.620 You know, it's ridiculous.

00:06:46.320 Yeah.

00:06:46.540 And so...

00:06:47.540 Let me clarify.

00:06:48.780 I'm just talking about the fundraising aspect of it

00:06:50.900 and people viewing it as a proxy for this race war.

00:06:53.560 That's what I'm talking about.

00:06:54.660 No, I get what you're saying.

00:06:55.560 I get what you're saying.

00:06:56.720 There's a lot of, like, really fun things to pull from this.

00:06:59.880 So you see...

00:07:01.960 We're making almost, like, one-to-one comparison.

00:07:04.400 Calling a black person a nigger is, like, stabbing them in the heart.

00:07:07.640 That's exactly the issue.

00:07:08.900 Oh, that's actually kind of profound.

00:07:09.800 That's exactly what it is.

00:07:10.840 Yeah.

00:07:11.460 Yeah.

00:07:12.180 It's beautiful.

00:07:13.400 Yeah.

00:07:13.900 And, like, my life...

00:07:15.100 There's one reason why I think I can rub people the wrong way sometimes.

00:07:18.060 Like, I'm so out of that world that I view it differently.

00:07:25.020 You know, it's like a single...

00:07:27.020 A woman alone with a child with a grown man with a camera is crazy.

00:07:34.360 So you have a...

00:07:34.860 Because people watch so much pornos and they're in cities.

00:07:37.360 They don't understand how fucked up what they're watching is.

00:07:40.160 So you have a grown foreigner, like a grown Somalian with a camera

00:07:45.040 walking around with a woman alone with a baby.

00:07:48.680 That's the problem.

00:07:49.900 It doesn't matter what words are said.

00:07:51.920 And that woman was very courageous to say that.

00:07:55.160 And I like that she said, then don't act like a nigger.

00:07:58.000 Because having black skin doesn't make you a nigger.

00:08:01.280 It's the behavior.

00:08:02.280 So it's like...

00:08:02.920 It's the behavior.

00:08:03.420 If you steal out of...

00:08:04.800 And everyone knows this.

00:08:06.060 Chris Rock did it 30...

00:08:07.440 I love black people.

00:08:09.200 I hate niggers.

00:08:10.700 You know what a nigger does?

00:08:12.160 A nigger steals your purse and says he's autistic.

00:08:15.040 That's what a nigger do.

00:08:17.540 It's...

00:08:17.940 Dude, it's...

00:08:18.820 We...

00:08:19.240 This is the issue I have.

00:08:20.580 This is why I live in Idaho.

00:08:22.000 It's because we all know this.

00:08:24.220 And people play make-believe for little shekels.

00:08:27.320 And it's like...

00:08:28.280 I homeschool my kids.

00:08:29.840 And you can make them see anything having value.

00:08:33.000 Like gold stars.

00:08:33.900 Like gold stars is like...

00:08:35.460 Joe Rogan got 200 million gold stars.

00:08:37.500 And it's fucking pathetic.

00:08:39.200 So it's like...

00:08:40.500 The word nigger is not hate.

00:08:43.420 Like I gave scenarios six years ago when I was first kicked off Twitter where I said,

00:08:47.760 what is worse?

00:08:48.500 Saying, these niggers down the street are just like me.

00:08:51.480 We both love barbecue and pickleball.

00:08:53.540 Or African-Americans should all be hung by the neck until they're dead.

00:08:58.300 What's worse?

00:08:59.660 And we all know the answer.

00:09:01.800 And so then it's like, oh, Harry...

00:09:03.660 No, no.

00:09:04.620 What it is...

00:09:05.780 If there was a diabolical plot behind it, which I think metaphysically would be in

00:09:09.480 the spirit realm, because I don't think people can pull this off, it's to try and get people

00:09:14.220 to think that private property rights are less important than someone's feelings around

00:09:19.340 a word based on their movie-going experiences.

00:09:23.240 Doesn't that go a little bit further, Owen?

00:09:24.720 It's not just private property.

00:09:26.260 It's also the follow-up doxing has now put this woman in jeopardy.

00:09:30.360 So essentially what's happened here is the internet has collectively decided that this

00:09:36.000 word is worthy of whatever comes with doxing.

00:09:39.840 And whether that's physical violence or property damage or harassment or death, all of those

00:09:45.360 things are worth...

00:09:46.500 Didn't they decide that...

00:09:47.980 You said NyQuil, and it was a different N-word.

00:09:50.940 Oh, no.

00:09:51.380 I said DayQuil.

00:09:53.260 And I got doxed.

00:09:55.460 My tweet went viral to the tune of 18 million.

00:09:58.120 They called CPS on me, and they doxed me just for words.

00:10:03.400 It's a fascinating dynamic that we live in, because it's like somehow a lot of people are

00:10:10.000 willing to entertain, and if you push them on it, they'll deviate, but they're at least

00:10:13.740 willing to entertain that words supersede violence.

00:10:18.120 Violence is not as bad as saying nigger.

00:10:20.780 And that's...

00:10:21.600 Did anyone ever come to your house, or did any blacks ever threaten you in person?

00:10:25.980 No, no.

00:10:26.740 Me neither, ever.

00:10:28.800 And I'm like the nigger guy.

00:10:31.420 You are the nigger guy, yeah.

00:10:32.900 Because I've never been like, hey, you, you're...

00:10:36.180 It's an illusion, man.

00:10:39.480 And a lot of people are not going to be able to handle this.

00:10:42.460 I've been completely shamed and publicly all that, and no one ever does shit in person.

00:10:50.280 Never.

00:10:50.600 I was just with Jake Shields again, and the same thing happens to him.

00:10:53.060 No one ever does it in real life.

00:10:54.680 It's all in this illusionary internet world.

00:10:56.760 And I've had CPS come to my house and all that shit, and it's like, it's almost like

00:11:01.700 these little demons use the government institutions, and they make people think.

00:11:07.260 Like right now, I bet a bunch of people are mad at blacks, because they're like, oh, people

00:11:11.460 with black skin are like mad at this poor woman in doxing her when it's...

00:11:17.400 You'd never see any of that.

00:11:19.020 Like no one's ever seen a fucking meteor, you know?

00:11:23.200 Like think about how many people are living under the assumption that rocks fall from the

00:11:27.440 sky and can kill all life, and there are gay babies.

00:11:30.960 Mm.

00:11:31.920 Yeah.

00:11:32.480 That gay baby one is a real delusion.

00:11:34.440 That's a real delusion.

00:11:35.080 It is.

00:11:35.480 People...

00:11:36.080 That you're born gay.

00:11:37.160 So a baby is like a gay baby.

00:11:39.780 Hey, it's a gay baby.

00:11:41.480 I was talking about Kanye West, and I said, Kanye West isn't gay just because he's...

00:11:46.120 Because there's no such thing as gay.

00:11:47.360 Gay isn't like an evolutionary mechanism, because what it does is it ends up terminating a species

00:11:52.240 if you go that way.

00:11:53.220 It don't propagate that way.

00:11:54.720 You dress too flamboyantly to make this point.

00:11:57.360 No, this is why I'm...

00:11:58.320 I'm steeped in gay.

00:11:59.200 Yeah, yeah.

00:11:59.400 I'm now...

00:11:59.520 I'm seeing red flags right now.

00:12:00.940 No, no, no, no, no.

00:12:01.600 What you're listening to is an expert in the field of gay, right?

00:12:05.400 There's no such thing as gay, dot, dot, dot.

00:12:07.580 Next thing, it's like, hey, let's have eight beers in a hot tub.

00:12:10.320 I've seen this before.

00:12:11.500 What's wrong with...

00:12:12.160 The only thing that's wrong with eight beers in a hot tub is people don't get out to piss.

00:12:16.360 And I've learned that.

00:12:17.580 This raven doth protest too much.

00:12:20.540 So anyway, go on.

00:12:21.580 There's no such thing as gay.

00:12:22.540 Go on.

00:12:22.780 I'm just saying there's no such thing as gay because it doesn't serve any sort of biological

00:12:26.860 function except for, you know, ejaculating, right?

00:12:29.820 So what I think it is, it's just degrees of sin.

00:12:32.680 It's degrees of shit whispering in your ear.

00:12:35.500 So the same thing that whispers in my ear, like, hey, go and eat an entire family size

00:12:40.140 package of Oreos is the same thing that whispers in Kanye's ear, but it goes, suck your cousin's

00:12:46.360 dick.

00:12:46.740 Suck your cousin's dick.

00:12:47.440 No, I totally agree with you, by the way.

00:12:49.680 Yeah, I just don't think there's such thing as gay.

00:12:51.140 I've seen the craziest shit was in LA where like hyper womanizer types ended up gay.

00:12:58.000 And I saw that.

00:12:58.840 I'm like, what were some of these guys that would just be out every night, like fucking

00:13:04.000 and then you'd, and then you'd find out and people would be like, oh, I never knew they

00:13:07.840 were gay this whole time.

00:13:08.900 And then I started like theorizing, like, what if you can just, the hedonic treadmill

00:13:13.600 just takes you to these strange places, you know?

00:13:16.780 It's like, what is a hedonic?

00:13:17.980 I'm retarded.

00:13:18.560 I've never even heard the word hedonic.

00:13:19.900 The hedonic treadmill is like, you know, it's like you're making 50 grand a year and it

00:13:25.840 feels great, but then you need like a little more.

00:13:27.800 So it's 65 and then you need more.

00:13:29.340 And before you know it, you're worth a hundred million and you have to bang like two sisters

00:13:34.120 before sunset sober.

00:13:36.400 And then you have to like, you need, you have to like, just keep escalating.

00:13:40.200 And I saw that on the road, even in myself where it wasn't like, you know, crazy.

00:13:45.840 Like I fortunately dodged so many bullets, but it would get to the point of like, you

00:13:51.820 just had to keep escalating to have, to have that same feeling.

00:13:54.980 It's like, um, you know, if somebody gets a dependence on caffeine, five cups of coffee

00:14:00.880 doesn't get you any energy anymore.

00:14:02.940 It's like that with hedonism, you know?

00:14:05.180 That's like keeping up with the Joneses.

00:14:07.200 Toad was like that.

00:14:08.780 Toad, he has to have seven cups of coffee a day.

00:14:10.940 And he came to my house and he decided for whatever reason, he's going to have zero.

00:14:14.760 And he ended up vomiting on the lawn.

00:14:16.260 This guy is so painful.

00:14:17.860 Yeah.

00:14:18.300 He's totally retired.

00:14:19.440 Um, oh, God damn it.

00:14:22.180 What were you, you were just talking about?

00:14:23.360 Oh, yeah.

00:14:23.900 All right.

00:14:24.140 So Michael Porter Jr.

00:14:25.580 Uh, he's the small forward for the Denver Nuggets.

00:14:28.100 And he's talked about this, how just a litany of NBA superstars who are on the road, cheating

00:14:34.100 on their wives, fucking rupees for, you know, year in and year out, like hundreds per year

00:14:40.320 that there's this massive trend of them starting to date trannies.

00:14:44.960 Like they, and this is not a one-off.

00:14:47.700 This is not just Dwight Howard.

00:14:49.100 This is like a lot of NBA superstars.

00:14:51.440 Yeah.

00:14:51.720 And I think it's exactly what I was talking about.

00:14:53.660 It's the hedonic treadmill that like, I think there was a threshold by which you've had so

00:14:57.260 much pussy.

00:14:58.440 You start to desire dick.

00:14:59.600 And that's the, that's the, that's the perilous line that we hold on.

00:15:02.740 Well, it's, it's not just, uh, about pussy or dick.

00:15:05.780 It's about sin.

00:15:06.820 So I, I would say like, you know, I agree with you.

00:15:09.420 Obviously the, the, the right move is find a woman, be monogamous, raise children, have

00:15:13.600 a family.

00:15:14.520 Um, and, and the, the fucked up corroded or, or corrosive version of that is have sex with

00:15:21.020 a higher, you know, so when, so when, uh, Myron Gaines or whatever his name is, is

00:15:24.500 talking about, maybe it's not him, but there's, or maybe it's a tape talking about having a

00:15:28.320 high room of women have sex with 50 women.

00:15:30.020 That's, that's just that thing whispering in your ear.

00:15:33.120 You need more drugs.

00:15:34.100 You need more pussy.

00:15:34.840 You need more money.

00:15:35.540 Now suddenly you need, it's whispering among those things.

00:15:38.500 It's like pussy, money, dick, uh, drugs, you know, uh, like, it's like, I know it sounds

00:15:44.440 comedic, but like fucking women's kind of gay too.

00:15:47.340 Like, I know that it's like, uh, no, it's like when you're, when you're out hunting and

00:15:53.300 you're out just trying to get quote unquote pussy, that you're basically a gay guy looking

00:15:58.240 for a vagina.

00:15:59.220 And then it's like a jump because the straightest thing you can do is marry launch inside.

00:16:05.200 Every time make children like fucking crush everything out, like blow jobs are like almost

00:16:11.220 the ass.

00:16:12.680 Ooh, I know.

00:16:13.620 I know.

00:16:13.980 I know you guys are going to spiral.

00:16:15.360 It happens to, Oh, how dare you?

00:16:16.980 Okay.

00:16:17.940 Well, it's like, are you going to fuck someone's ear too?

00:16:21.400 Is that fun?

00:16:22.420 Like there's no pleasure in someone's mouth.

00:16:24.420 They eat with their mouth.

00:16:25.480 You're looking at the top of their head.

00:16:26.660 It might as well be a guy's head.

00:16:28.520 Oh, and I had, so I looked my wife right in the face and this is, I, this is crazy.

00:16:32.820 Say it on, on, uh, whatever.

00:16:34.280 And I said, when I go down on you, do you think less of me?

00:16:38.000 And I was paying attention.

00:16:39.420 Like I caught her off guard completely off topic.

00:16:41.540 And I looked at her and she gave me the quick falter and I was like this fucking bitch.

00:16:45.600 And it was like, she does.

00:16:47.240 She does.

00:16:48.240 Yeah, dude.

00:16:49.120 Something inside.

00:16:49.800 The Sopranos were right.

00:16:51.260 They talked about a nigger stealing a bike and they talked about how, like, if you go

00:16:56.380 down on a chick, you're like a pussy.

00:16:58.500 Remember that whole episode?

00:16:59.740 Yeah.

00:17:00.060 Yeah.

00:17:00.240 Yeah.

00:17:00.420 I remember that.

00:17:01.100 That's informed a lot of dudes.

00:17:02.940 It informs you.

00:17:04.660 You're like not to be trusted.

00:17:06.700 You know, it's like going down on chicks.

00:17:08.940 You're like, you know, you're like a little, you know, you're going to rat on the crew.

00:17:13.360 If liking blowjobs and going down on women is, uh, makes you questionable.

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00:17:58.420 Hashtag make a play.

00:18:01.020 I'm in a lot of trouble.

00:18:02.060 Yeah, it's not like you're gay, but you're on the road to being gay.

00:18:06.600 You're almost gay.

00:18:07.760 And that's something I pick up about Clint a lot.

00:18:09.900 You know, about this, this, this whole scenario, right?

00:18:13.380 With this woman in this park.

00:18:14.580 One of the things that is really significant here is that the idea that this guy is, I

00:18:20.360 believe is a Somali migrant.

00:18:21.800 Oh, right.

00:18:22.320 And also say, cause I, so I made the point that, right?

00:18:24.720 Like calling a black person and nigger is like a knife in the heart.

00:18:27.800 Conversely, uh, stealing like property whites to white people is the

00:18:31.980 same thing.

00:18:32.600 Yeah, it is.

00:18:33.080 Oh yeah.

00:18:33.780 It is.

00:18:34.060 Yeah.

00:18:34.220 So we have to be like, we don't have property rights in Somalia.

00:18:37.660 They'll, they'll be like, Oh, I want a coconut.

00:18:39.900 Oh, like they're fucking animals over there.

00:18:42.440 They see, they take, you know, they don't even have a word for, well, I don't

00:18:46.340 know in Somalia, but in Africa, you sent me the video.

00:18:48.400 They don't have a word for maintenance.

00:18:50.240 Yeah.

00:18:50.740 In a lot of African languages.

00:18:52.180 So like their shit's just falling apart because they can't even conceptualize

00:18:55.200 the idea of maintaining something.

00:18:57.100 And this, this is an African telling the story.

00:18:58.800 And he's like, he's like, this is why when white people arrived, we considered

00:19:02.400 them superior.

00:19:03.060 Like the whole concept of, uh, of what was, this is why I shit on Jamaica.

00:19:07.800 So, so readily, like I had a bad dream.

00:19:10.100 I told David, I called him.

00:19:11.220 I was in a fucking flop sweat.

00:19:12.440 It was like three in the morning.

00:19:13.260 I'm like, David has had a bad dream.

00:19:14.640 I was on a train in Jamaica and he's like train in Jamaica.

00:19:17.600 So then I look up and I'm like, do they have trains in Jamaica?

00:19:20.200 Good question.

00:19:20.840 I used to build railroad.

00:19:21.720 So I look and there is, but it's decommissioned because they can't fucking

00:19:25.320 maintain it to build railroads.

00:19:27.740 The British built it.

00:19:28.920 They left railroads.

00:19:30.900 Yeah.

00:19:31.340 Yeah.

00:19:31.480 I was a track worker for a seven, eight years.

00:19:34.340 That's epic.

00:19:35.260 You got to talk more about like, I want to, I have like a thousand questions.

00:19:38.900 Yeah.

00:19:39.420 I saw we built how much metal dust.

00:19:41.260 Did you breathe in?

00:19:43.260 I'm going to die.

00:19:44.260 So young, give me some, give me some gravy on fucking railroads.

00:19:49.260 Building a railroad.

00:19:50.600 Oh, and just admitted his autism.

00:19:52.300 So it's railroads.

00:19:53.100 There it is.

00:19:53.740 Yeah.

00:19:54.340 Trains.

00:19:54.720 It's like either trains for toad, it's maps.

00:19:56.700 How do you feel about topographical maps and globes?

00:19:59.860 I don't like globes a lot, but I do like topographical maps.

00:20:04.080 See, here's the thing.

00:20:04.860 I know, you know, you think it's flat, right?

00:20:06.740 And I think it's flat too.

00:20:07.760 I don't know how it's going to be laid out geographically, but if you see a

00:20:11.960 globe, you don't just want to fucking give it a spin.

00:20:16.380 No.

00:20:17.300 Oh, interesting.

00:20:18.560 You're the first person we've talked to.

00:20:20.660 Well, it's a deep hatred.

00:20:21.860 There was a time when I would, now I don't, I don't like globes at all.

00:20:25.400 It's been ruined for you.

00:20:26.460 You know, on the bottom of a lot of globes, it just says, uh, for educational purposes,

00:20:30.140 not to scale.

00:20:30.920 Like they legally have to do that.

00:20:32.460 Yeah.

00:20:33.060 Interesting.

00:20:33.520 It basically just means this isn't real.

00:20:35.580 Yeah.

00:20:35.860 I'm not even, I don't know.

00:20:37.040 Like when the 24 hour something happened in Antarctica, I was the first to be like, Oh, it turns

00:20:41.680 out that model's fucking that.

00:20:43.120 Right.

00:20:43.340 Like I don't have emotional investment, so it could be something else that I can't even

00:20:48.380 fathom.

00:20:48.980 I just, from everything I've done in my life, the globe isn't real.

00:20:54.300 But I, I mean, that's why the, the, um, the, uh, Sherlock Holmes thing is bullshit.

00:21:00.600 When it's like, when, when you've eliminated everything possible, what remains, no matter

00:21:05.300 how ridiculous is true.

00:21:06.760 It's like, you can't fathom everything that's possible.

00:21:09.920 Like that's claiming divinity, you know?

00:21:12.580 So that's why the flat earth globe earth binary.

00:21:15.260 I don't, I don't engage with it now because it's like, isn't there other, like, isn't there

00:21:20.700 other options?

00:21:21.420 So there's no other possible options for the realm we live in than that.

00:21:25.560 Yeah.

00:21:25.840 That's what I'm saying.

00:21:26.500 My, my take on it is, uh, I I'm an idiot, so I don't know, but perceivably from my experience

00:21:32.540 doesn't seem to be moving, uh, you know, millions of miles per hour through the universe doesn't

00:21:36.640 seem to be spinning, uh, and doesn't seem to have any curvature, but that's just my own

00:21:40.520 experience, my own perception.

00:21:41.700 So on that, I'm like, I'm pretty open to whatever you got.

00:21:45.060 Uh, I know NASA do be lying.

00:21:47.640 Yeah.

00:21:48.040 Yeah.

00:21:48.320 And you've got to rely on your own experience, you know?

00:21:50.680 I'll tell you about the tracks.

00:21:51.640 You want to know about the track before you do the trains, let me just finish that, that

00:21:54.080 story about Africa.

00:21:54.820 So this guy, he, he says that the Africans, when they met the British, the French, the,

00:21:59.400 you know, Imperial forces, black people were the ones that came up with the, uh, term white

00:22:05.440 supremacy because they, they realized people were so superior.

00:22:08.440 They were able to create, you know, roads and bridges and all these, all these, and water

00:22:12.120 aquifers and all these things that they had never dreamt of.

00:22:14.940 And then he also goes on to admit that, yes, they don't have a word for maintenance.

00:22:18.220 So everything that is there, that is of any value is only a, basically a product of imperialism.

00:22:25.940 And therefore, as soon as all of the Imperial people are gone, it'll just degrade into oblivion.

00:22:31.700 I can't wait.

00:22:32.200 That's what happened.

00:22:32.740 Eventually I will be debating, uh, Louis J Gomez on Jamaica, on the idea of, I think

00:22:39.220 the premise that I'm going to take is, is it even a real place?

00:22:41.840 I've been there, set foot on it, but I don't think, I still don't think it's real.

00:22:45.020 I got to add to your point too, about Jamaica.

00:22:47.160 First thing I saw when I landed at the airport in Jamaica is just holes in the walls of the

00:22:52.460 airport and there's no one to repair it.

00:22:54.660 Like they just don't have the concept.

00:22:56.420 No, they're there, they're there to repair it.

00:22:58.280 They just don't, they don't maintain.

00:23:00.500 I mean, it's like, I'm trying to like, so like you go through, I know we're all over

00:23:05.260 the place, but you go through Jamaica and it's like, you can see where the British were

00:23:09.020 and the running water and the electricity that they've set up.

00:23:11.480 And the Jamaicans have a hard time even keeping the electricity on.

00:23:14.700 Like it goes out in the resorts, in the high class resorts, but in the mountains, you can

00:23:18.860 tell they haven't figured out or I don't know, developed a way to fucking have plumbing,

00:23:24.540 just plumbing, plumbing.

00:23:25.860 They just shit in a river.

00:23:27.280 They don't, they don't even have road maintenance.

00:23:28.580 So it's just, it's just these dirt roads.

00:23:30.560 I went out to Bob Marley's grave site and we're driving in this bus and I shit you not,

00:23:34.720 the tires in certain parts of the road are hanging off the side.

00:23:37.920 And I told my mom and my brother, I was like, this is the last time we go out in public

00:23:43.460 transport in this country.

00:23:45.200 Like this is fucking so dangerous.

00:23:47.020 And sure enough, you'll see like in Guatemala and other countries, you'll just see like,

00:23:51.100 oh yeah, another bus fell off the fucking side of the cliff.

00:23:53.640 And it's like, well, it's not because the driver was driving dangerously.

00:23:56.980 It's because they don't maintain the road.

00:23:58.860 It's an island full of niggers.

00:24:00.120 Like it's, it's, it's, they're Spanish, but it's like, it's the spirit of, right?

00:24:05.460 Like the spirit of nigger.

00:24:07.240 Like just fucking, yes.

00:24:08.800 Put a little bit of effort.

00:24:09.980 That's all I'm asking.

00:24:10.460 It's not their skin color.

00:24:11.500 It's their actions.

00:24:12.820 Yes.

00:24:13.260 Dude, you want to hear a weird conspiracy?

00:24:15.500 Well, I also have to ask you about train tracks.

00:24:18.400 Did you ever have to factor in the curve of the earth?

00:24:21.180 So no, it's like, it's New York city.

00:24:22.720 So it was never like long, long distance, but it was like underground, all tight condition

00:24:27.060 stuff.

00:24:27.380 So like just very dangerous, but no, never.

00:24:30.320 No.

00:24:30.680 So like one of the few groups of high functioning blacks were a tribe actually called nigger.

00:24:38.780 No, they owned it.

00:24:40.560 No, it's true.

00:24:41.420 They're out of Ethiopia.

00:24:42.420 They were like, like the, I like, cause I see this shit everywhere now.

00:24:46.560 When do you see that response?

00:24:48.920 It's usually an inversion covering the opposite.

00:24:52.760 And so I think like the one group of like noble African, you know, that had a word for

00:24:58.720 maintenance were actually called niggers.

00:25:01.160 Yeah.

00:25:02.200 And then, and now we've taken it and we've, we've made it the inverse like so many things.

00:25:06.780 Yeah.

00:25:07.220 But I don't even think it's conscious.

00:25:08.580 I think it just happens.

00:25:09.640 I think that this is just the nature of reality.

00:25:11.920 I feel, I feel like everyone has slept on the fact that the white lady yesterday, like

00:25:16.760 everyone's just caught up on the N word, the N word.

00:25:18.680 She also turns to the Somali guy and she goes, right.

00:25:24.700 So that's what Owen was saying that, um, you know, good for her because she's, she wasn't

00:25:29.760 afraid, which is like tremendous.

00:25:31.380 Honestly, you're, you're a single mother.

00:25:32.980 You've got a child to protect.

00:25:34.280 You're at a park.

00:25:35.040 There's this childless Somalian dude.

00:25:36.780 He's got a camera in your face.

00:25:37.700 The balls on that lady to be like, to double down and then do the thing to her was incredible,

00:25:43.640 but they've had enough.

00:25:44.900 Like they've had enough.

00:25:45.460 They've had enough anymore at all.

00:25:47.560 I don't even think there's backlash.

00:25:49.280 No, I literally don't.

00:25:50.620 I think everyone agrees with the woman, except for like black, you know, that bitch at the

00:25:55.140 New York times.

00:25:55.900 What's there?

00:25:57.200 Barry Weiss.

00:25:58.640 Well, what's, what's weird about this is this guy made a real attempt.

00:26:03.300 It is very obvious to socially shame her, right.

00:26:06.960 To manipulate her through, through shame.

00:26:09.160 And what's significant about that is all these other countries, even the third world countries

00:26:13.440 have been watching the decline of American culture and watching us freak out over words

00:26:18.540 to the extent that they think they can come here and use that against us.

00:26:22.000 And they have, I've seen videos where they've done that before.

00:26:24.640 They've accused people of being racist because they're asking them like, why are you walking

00:26:28.460 around our town all the time?

00:26:29.580 I remember watching this video where this guy was squatting in an abandoned church.

00:26:32.860 He was also a Somalian migrant.

00:26:34.600 And, uh, and he's getting into an argument with this dude.

00:26:36.700 That's like, yeah, I live in this neighborhood.

00:26:38.380 I see you and all these people coming and going in and out of this abandoned church.

00:26:41.740 This is bad for you guys got to go.

00:26:43.740 And he starts accusing him of being racist.

00:26:46.060 So these people actually do have this idea outside of the country that they can come to

00:26:50.360 America and they can sort of manipulate us.

00:26:53.480 And I suppose I warn people of this eight years ago.

00:26:56.580 I was like, right now they're like, we saw what you did to Owen Bunderman.

00:27:00.620 He was a very good comedian and you pretended a word was bad.

00:27:04.760 So now I will rape your butt.

00:27:07.260 Well, that's it.

00:27:08.140 Yeah, that's it.

00:27:09.420 No, I mean, it's true.

00:27:10.680 Like I, when people think I'm like whining or bitching, I'm not like, I live in literal

00:27:15.700 paradise.

00:27:16.280 Like my life couldn't have turned out better.

00:27:18.720 I'm just like, remember when I went through all this before and I told you guys that like

00:27:24.220 wealth comes from trust and honor culture.

00:27:27.100 And if you don't have that, like if people don't call, call out stolen jokes or stolen

00:27:31.020 diaper bags, you don't, you're not rich anymore.

00:27:34.360 Like it's called a bank and trust.

00:27:36.640 Like you have to have the trust in order to have the wealth.

00:27:41.120 And it's like, so when people start, uh, uh, promoting each other based on nepotism and,

00:27:47.940 um, and politicking, I said in comedy all the time, like how good of friends are you with

00:27:52.600 Joe Rogan is how funny you are.

00:27:54.160 It's like, okay, well now no one likes standup anymore.

00:27:57.840 Really?

00:27:58.220 Like I was talking to you guys about that.

00:27:59.640 It's like, it's like you look on Netflix.

00:28:01.920 I don't want to watch standup.

00:28:03.280 I became a standup comedian cause I love standup so much.

00:28:06.380 No one, people are starting to be like, this is fucking terrible.

00:28:09.840 I'm like, it didn't have to be terrible.

00:28:11.760 It just became like dishonorable, you know?

00:28:15.220 Yeah.

00:28:15.480 Let me ask you this because now this is, I don't even care if I ruffle any feathers, like,

00:28:19.320 but so I was watching Netflix and I said, Oh, Tim Dillon is on.

00:28:24.180 Let me put Tim.

00:28:25.080 Cause Tim Dillon is, he's a funny podcaster.

00:28:28.280 Yeah.

00:28:28.560 What the fuck is that?

00:28:30.020 Cause I listened to it and I'm, I'm, I'm engaging my wife as well.

00:28:33.360 And I'm like, maybe she'll, cause I know my sense of humor is like, I am just, I'm in

00:28:38.140 the gutter.

00:28:38.720 So like, it, it, it's hard to make me laugh.

00:28:41.160 And I'm looking at my wife and she doesn't even crack a smile really.

00:28:43.820 And I'm like, what the fuck was this?

00:28:45.100 Like top came over to my place yesterday.

00:28:47.300 Cause we were like laying out the new studio and he starts to talk to me about it.

00:28:51.280 And I said the same thing.

00:28:52.380 I was like, I saw Tim Dillon perform in San Diego probably five years ago.

00:28:56.520 And I'm a huge, huge fan of his podcast, his ad lib capacity and his rants, I think are

00:29:02.420 some of the best in the podcast world.

00:29:04.540 His standup is just marginal and that's just the reality.

00:29:07.260 And I, it is interesting because it's such a, it's such a different talent.

00:29:12.060 Um, but he is, he is so good at podcasting.

00:29:14.580 He's going to sell out at every.

00:29:16.960 Yeah.

00:29:17.400 And then just ruin standup.

00:29:18.800 Like now, like doing bro, bro, he me and Grove.

00:29:21.220 I'm pumped about it, but I'm also thinking like, you almost have to retrain people.

00:29:25.800 What standup is.

00:29:26.840 Cause it's gotten so weird and bad that it, I don't know, man, it's, it's a weird time

00:29:31.840 for standup.

00:29:32.620 It's like, and it did not used to be like that.

00:29:35.220 Not to sound like a boomer, but like, like, you know, I'll just like rip on someone and

00:29:39.160 they, and they act like I'm raping them.

00:29:41.460 That didn't, that didn't used to be like that.

00:29:43.740 I, I used to tour with Jimmy Fallon.

00:29:46.060 And before that I sang a song about how I wanted him to get full blown African AIDS and no

00:29:52.660 one cared.

00:29:53.380 Like, dude, I watched Zach Galifianakis, like spiraling about how much Adam Sandler sucks

00:29:59.260 and everyone's just dying laughing.

00:30:01.340 And it's like, dude, comedians are supposed to rip on each other.

00:30:05.260 That's why, like, I'll, I'll start ripping on a, on a comic on Twitter.

00:30:08.560 And they're like, Oh, don't even address Owen Benjamin.

00:30:11.320 He's, he's gone mad.

00:30:12.980 Don't you know?

00:30:13.800 I'm like, dude, you're a comedian.

00:30:15.060 I just called you a homo.

00:30:16.760 Like, what do you say back?

00:30:17.960 Like, that's why I get along with fucking UFC guys more because they understand it's

00:30:22.380 about like people pay you to fight people.

00:30:25.120 And like, we're really good at quick insults and that's our fucking job.

00:30:30.120 And you'll see these comics be like, Oh no, he's, he's just jealous of a fat gay guy.

00:30:35.980 So I'm jealous of Tim Dillon, a fucking diabetic dick sucker.

00:30:42.500 Are you out of your mind?

00:30:44.380 Alleged alleged.

00:30:45.440 I think he's lying.

00:30:46.220 I think he's a closet straight.

00:30:47.680 I'm not even kidding.

00:30:48.920 Let's not, let's not forget.

00:30:50.560 I swear to God, I don't even think he's gay.

00:30:53.400 Who's that?

00:30:56.140 Megan.

00:30:56.740 What's her name?

00:30:57.360 The bitch from the view.

00:30:58.800 Some of Tim Dillon's greatest work.

00:31:00.400 Megan McCain.

00:31:01.140 No, I mean, when he did the Megan McCain thing, that was incredible.

00:31:04.520 I got to give him that.

00:31:05.460 Some of his rants are fucking hysterical.

00:31:07.740 Like he's one of the only comics I'll ever like tweet out his videos.

00:31:10.840 Cause they actually make me laugh.

00:31:12.180 Like a few of his, like when he was making fun of Eric Weinstein, but that's, that's

00:31:15.960 what I mean.

00:31:16.400 You make fun of people.

00:31:18.060 That's our job.

00:31:19.480 Yeah.

00:31:19.840 You know, it's like you make fun.

00:31:21.760 And then you, the guy either takes it like a man or hits you back.

00:31:26.120 No one acts acting like you're getting raped is one step away from the Somalian guy.

00:31:31.660 Yeah.

00:31:32.100 You know, like all men, I like that.

00:31:33.420 I saw that with Dave Smith.

00:31:34.620 I know you guys love Dave Smith, but like when I was going to bring it up, they act

00:31:38.540 like politicians.

00:31:39.420 They're like, they're like, and now with the juice stuff and Ian Carroll and all that,

00:31:44.220 I'm like, dude, be funny.

00:31:45.600 Like at no point did he call Douglas Murray where it's like, well, Douglas, you seem like

00:31:49.720 you're an expert at chugging hammer.

00:31:52.200 Right.

00:31:52.620 It's like, right.

00:31:53.760 Big laughs, big laughs.

00:31:54.740 Right.

00:31:54.960 Cause they're like, you're a comedian.

00:31:57.540 I'm like, no, he's not.

00:31:59.060 He's not even a fucking comedian.

00:32:00.960 I think, thank you.

00:32:02.220 Thank you for saying that because this fucking faggot looked Dave right in the face.

00:32:06.140 And he was like, you are the bisexuals of the political realm.

00:32:08.780 And I'm like, yo, fucking kill this faggot.

00:32:10.740 No, not actually kill for those of you with PTSD.

00:32:14.740 No, no, literally go to his house in Los Angeles and kill him.

00:32:21.260 Call him a spear sipper.

00:32:22.620 Call him a hammer hogger.

00:32:24.460 You know, it's like, just like funny, like, like, I gotta make a little bit of a heady point.

00:32:30.140 I know we try to avoid those, but it actually, the, the Rogan orbit of those comics that are

00:32:35.120 all now Netflix, you know, spiraling, um, and the IDW, the intellectual dark web.

00:32:41.780 It reminds me of the same.

00:32:43.160 Yeah, I know.

00:32:43.780 They put me in it and then they kicked me out.

00:32:45.500 That was actually ultimately a good thing, but I just want to point out the similarities

00:32:50.500 there is that the entire IDW, they all came to prominence because they were talking about

00:32:55.500 free speech and not having compelled speech and going against woke.

00:32:59.260 And then now they're all the gatekeepers that are saying we have to, now we have to have

00:33:03.160 guardrails.

00:33:03.740 Obviously it's like, well, you, you were fine when there was, you didn't want there to be

00:33:07.640 guardrails when you wanted it.

00:33:08.760 And now you're in, you want guardrails.

00:33:10.100 This is just classic bullshit.

00:33:11.640 It's actually very, it's actually very similar with the Rogan orbit.

00:33:14.080 If you remember back in, you know, 14, 15, 16, 17 on, on Joe Rogan experience, he's having

00:33:19.220 all these comics on and they're talking about.

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00:34:01.240 Hashtag make a play.

00:34:02.680 Cancel culture and how fucking irritating it is and blah, blah, blah.

00:34:07.340 And now, like David has even admitted, like the primary thing that Rogan, the instructions

00:34:12.380 basically that Rogan gave Dave was, I want to keep this civil.

00:34:16.960 And Dave being, you know, friends with Rogan, but also respecting the power that his platform

00:34:21.500 provides him was like, I'm going to honor that.

00:34:23.620 So he turned off the comic switch in the range.

00:34:27.620 I haven't seen Dave Smith be funny in a long time, though.

00:34:30.520 If he wants to turn that off to be one of Rogan's bitches, like, okay.

00:34:35.600 And I know, and I'm sorry if that does ruffle some feathers, but it's like, okay, that's

00:34:40.260 the deal.

00:34:40.640 You get to be with the devil.

00:34:42.380 And, you know, if you do that, and it's like, but now you're like nonsense.

00:34:45.980 You're like a nonsense person, you know?

00:34:47.600 It's irresponsible, right?

00:34:48.820 Because I think we talked about last time you were on, it's like, well, what's your fucking

00:34:51.660 job?

00:34:52.120 What's your, if you're, yeah, what's your job?

00:34:53.860 You were building railroads, you know, that, like, that's why me teaching piano has been

00:34:58.020 so cathartic.

00:34:58.820 Cause I'm like so nice and people are like, dude, your piano lessons are so like civil.

00:35:04.480 I'm like, yeah.

00:35:05.040 Cause I'm a piano teacher.

00:35:06.120 Comedian is not civil.

00:35:07.680 Like you can't be civil and a comedian.

00:35:10.060 That's like, if Joe Rogan was like, Hey, Dave Smith, you're like a gay prostitute.

00:35:14.180 Now try not to be too like horny or sexual.

00:35:18.700 That's my job.

00:35:19.840 I think, I think.

00:35:20.560 It's like your job is to blow guys.

00:35:22.840 Dave Smith.

00:35:23.860 So do it.

00:35:24.960 Being theoretically, being, being the resident guy who professionally blows Dave Smith.

00:35:29.460 Let me defend him for a second.

00:35:30.820 I get it.

00:35:31.320 I get it.

00:35:31.800 He's now rep.

00:35:32.560 I fucking Clint CAA.

00:35:34.440 I get it.

00:35:35.040 Yeah.

00:35:35.300 But let me, let me, let me just point out.

00:35:39.420 I'm not, I'm not, I'm not like, I don't know.

00:35:42.340 I respect it.

00:35:43.140 I respect that you guys do this.

00:35:45.140 The problem is he's cause he is fucking funny.

00:35:47.520 Like, I know, I know, but this is the point I'm trying to make is that the Douglas Murray

00:35:51.960 put him in awkward position too, because basically what he's saying is when you, when you lose

00:35:56.680 a debate, which Dave never does this, but he was, he was accusing him of it is that you

00:35:59.960 shift from, Oh, I'm a guy who talks about geopolitics and all this other shit.

00:36:04.560 And then, Oh, I'm just a comic.

00:36:06.140 You can't take me seriously.

00:36:07.120 So because he puts him in that position, Dave is clicked into serious mode because he wants

00:36:11.840 to devour this guy on the merits of his arguments.

00:36:13.920 He doesn't want to win the comedy.

00:36:16.100 You guys, uh, Jews do that when they switch from being Jews to white based on who they're

00:36:20.120 crowdfunding from.

00:36:21.800 Right.

00:36:22.380 Right.

00:36:22.540 Funny, poignant, right?

00:36:23.740 Bang.

00:36:23.940 Yeah.

00:36:24.520 That's funny.

00:36:25.160 That's poignant.

00:36:25.800 Why not make that point?

00:36:27.060 Because Dave's also a Jew.

00:36:29.720 So now the face of like Jew criticisms is like an urbanite fucking Jew.

00:36:34.560 It's like, that's the joke.

00:36:36.740 The joke is Dave Smith.

00:36:38.980 Like he's like a New York city, like swanky fucking Jew.

00:36:43.880 And now everyone's like, Oh, he's the face of anti-Semitism.

00:36:47.820 I'm like, that's, that's like me.

00:36:49.360 The face of dwarfism, you know, hilarious dude.

00:36:54.820 It does feel, it feels an awful lot.

00:36:56.860 And again, so I like Dave, but it feels an awful lot.

00:36:59.480 Like we all, I still like Dave.

00:37:01.080 Like I deep down like Dave.

00:37:03.900 You know, it's like, I like Dave.

00:37:06.300 Like I've, I've had some great times with that fucking guy.

00:37:08.740 My, my wife and his wife used to like comment on each other's Instagrams and shit.

00:37:12.980 And then I think Rogan is my theory was like, you can't talk to that guy anymore.

00:37:18.480 That's the only thing that, that makes sense because we got along great.

00:37:23.020 And then he like literally wouldn't ever bring up, like he would act like things were happening

00:37:28.980 for the first time.

00:37:30.020 And I'm like, Dave, you watched me do that five years ago for like a year and then like

00:37:35.300 silence.

00:37:35.720 But yet he'll respond to like, you know, Hitler's 69 boy or something.

00:37:40.860 And I'm like, you can't respond to me, man.

00:37:44.000 Well, you ain't funny anymore, bitch.

00:37:46.040 Is it a mistake to, to be a comedian, but then to put yourself in a position where now

00:37:52.260 you're talking geopolitics and you're also debating people because that thing is going

00:37:56.100 to come up, right?

00:37:56.740 But you're going to go, well, look, man, I tell dick jokes on stage for a living.

00:37:59.700 Don't take me so seriously.

00:38:01.200 But then you're also, what's that?

00:38:03.800 You remember that unfrozen caveman lawyer?

00:38:06.260 Listen, I'm just a caveman.

00:38:07.700 That SNL sketch from like 25 years ago.

00:38:10.500 It was Phil Hartman dressed like a caveman.

00:38:13.360 He's like, and he's a lawyer.

00:38:14.860 He was like in ice for 5,000 years.

00:38:17.160 He's like, listen, I'm just a caveman.

00:38:19.240 Your lights frighten me.

00:38:20.780 What are they, son?

00:38:21.860 Is it a son in the room?

00:38:23.440 But one thing I do know is your client, my client deserves $3 million.

00:38:27.660 You know, the whole thing was like, yeah, I'm just a comedian.

00:38:30.580 I like to talk about my dick and fuck strangers.

00:38:33.540 But one thing I do know is that Gaza is a human rights, you know, like that is, I get that.

00:38:40.000 But it's like, yeah, jester's privilege.

00:38:42.280 I want, I want, I thought about that a lot.

00:38:43.780 Like, do I have the right to go after trans kids shit or am I a clown?

00:38:48.220 It's a fucking, now that's the debate.

00:38:50.280 You know, that's an interesting conversation.

00:38:52.440 I have that conversation with myself right now where I'm like, you know, we're, we, we delve heavily into Christianity and I do believe in Jesus Christ.

00:39:00.040 And I do think there's this whole spiritual realm.

00:39:02.320 What's that, Top?

00:39:02.720 I got an email today about it.

00:39:04.260 Someone said, I, I, your show's great.

00:39:06.780 I listen to these other, there's a lot of other Christian podcasts that I guess we're in the realm of that, but they don't fuck with us.

00:39:11.620 And she's like, but you say nigger way too much.

00:39:14.000 And I just, in good conscience, cannot listen.

00:39:16.200 I was like, I feel like you guys do.

00:39:17.620 I can't help myself.

00:39:18.960 Well, I asked myself that question though, where I'm like, what am I exactly?

00:39:23.020 Because I do believe in these things, but also I seem to be a clown and I, I rather enjoy it.

00:39:27.800 It brings me a lot of satisfaction and I, that's just naturally how I engage with people.

00:39:32.080 I don't, I don't like this premise at all.

00:39:33.560 This is straight Douglas Murray garbage.

00:39:35.180 Which is basically saying like, you can't be both.

00:39:38.480 Did you just reject my premise?

00:39:40.040 I reject, I reject your premise.

00:39:41.560 In fact, it's not even.

00:39:42.200 Are we rejecting premises?

00:39:43.520 What the fuck?

00:39:44.260 This is, this is not even an argument.

00:39:45.560 I'll allow it.

00:39:46.460 Dude, actually, actually, it's called being a holy fool.

00:39:50.020 Ah, interesting.

00:39:51.040 There's like a whole thing about it.

00:39:52.600 Dude, there's like a whole archetype called the holy fool.

00:39:55.060 I just want to know about that.

00:39:56.120 Yeah, I do.

00:39:56.900 I want to, I want you to elaborate, but I just want to make the point that I think comics

00:40:00.840 are some of the last honest people in this country, if not on the planet.

00:40:05.140 And I would, I would be worse off if comedians didn't engage in serious topics from time

00:40:11.740 to time.

00:40:12.200 I also think some of the, the most cutting, brilliant humor is right on the fault lines

00:40:17.520 of the culture war.

00:40:19.020 Um, and the comics that, that are willing to go there are the ones that I respect.

00:40:22.620 The ones that aren't willing to go there are the ones I don't respect.

00:40:24.920 And I usually don't find funny either.

00:40:26.920 So I just totally reject this premise that you can't do both or that you shouldn't do both.

00:40:30.780 And I think that, you know, Owen's success, Dave's success, even Tim Dillon's success are

00:40:35.460 all a product and, and Rogan's success are a product of a willingness to do both and to

00:40:39.620 do it at a high level and to do it successfully.

00:40:41.220 So I, I think that it's been a positive disagree more.

00:40:44.700 I think the comedians these days are more fraudulent and full of shit than like Leonardo

00:40:49.300 DiCaprio.

00:40:49.940 Cause at least he says he's an actor, you know, Joe Rogan apologizing for saying the word

00:40:56.140 nigger on CNN was like, dude, fucking DiCaprio said it a thousand times in Django Unchained.

00:41:02.620 It was great.

00:41:03.400 Banger.

00:41:03.780 Right.

00:41:04.380 Dude.

00:41:04.620 The Holy pool archetype found in Russian folklore is a character who hourly appears foolish

00:41:09.580 or eccentric, but possesses a hidden spiritual wisdom and the ability to see truths other

00:41:14.240 others miss.

00:41:15.460 They're often social outcasts yet.

00:41:17.460 They are revered for their unconventional behavior and their willingness to speak truth

00:41:21.760 to power.

00:41:22.220 It's the Holy fool and in a Russian orthodoxy, it's actually seen as like very Christian.

00:41:28.240 All right.

00:41:28.340 Well then, then set, set Rogan aside.

00:41:30.380 You don't think that Tim Dillon serves a good Holy fool role.

00:41:33.540 I think he's a heterosexual in the closet.

00:41:36.580 Okay.

00:41:37.060 But that's his role.

00:41:37.920 If he's doing that to, I don't know.

00:41:40.840 You know, I think, I think he actually is the, like, I think he's doing a good job actually.

00:41:44.580 Like, honestly, I think like Tim Dillon actually does talk shit.

00:41:48.760 Like when he was on Rogan and he was about to start, it was just like ripping.

00:41:52.220 On, um, the guy with the cult, uh, Jared Leto and Rogan was gatekeeping on me.

00:41:58.880 He was like, Oh no, Jared Leto is a great guy.

00:42:00.840 He's just like hangs out with people.

00:42:02.320 It's not a cult.

00:42:03.880 And, uh, yeah, so I have a, apparently I have a cult because I have a podcast, but fucking

00:42:08.640 Jared Leto literally in white robes, fucking everyone in the world on an Island is not

00:42:13.720 a cult according to Rogan and Tim, I could tell like kept wanting to hit it.

00:42:18.060 And I was like, good for him.

00:42:19.240 That means he's not just like a Senator, you know, he's like, yeah, Jared Leto is a fucking

00:42:24.720 in a cult, like fact.

00:42:26.720 Yeah.

00:42:27.120 I listened to Tim Dillon make fun of him too, which is nice.

00:42:30.660 You know, it's that, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

00:42:32.880 We'll give you that right.

00:42:33.800 Where like, I like him, Dylan.

00:42:36.060 I do.

00:42:36.900 I do.

00:42:37.280 He'll tell him like, don't, don't do that.

00:42:39.040 And he'll still touch it.

00:42:40.080 He'll touch it a little bit.

00:42:41.060 But then, so then what's the disconnect with the comedy?

00:42:43.780 Cause he's, he's clearly giving us, I think he's lazy.

00:42:47.460 He's lazy.

00:42:48.500 Stand up is like really difficult.

00:42:50.680 That's what I just said.

00:42:51.480 Yeah.

00:42:51.580 I know.

00:42:52.100 I'm not, I'm not bullshit.

00:42:53.680 And I think, I think Tim Dillon's extraordinarily lazy.

00:42:55.740 I mean, you can just look at his physique and decide that being, if he is bisexual, that's

00:43:00.720 the laziest you can be.

00:43:03.420 You're like, I will fuck anything that, that like is easy.

00:43:07.240 Yeah.

00:43:07.480 Here's the thing though.

00:43:08.240 He, he understands these like premises, these cutting edge premises, but he doesn't bring

00:43:13.280 it to the stage.

00:43:14.160 You can create a joke based off of like a lot of the things that he says in his podcast.

00:43:18.960 This is how I know he's lazy is because on the fly, like literally this is how I envision

00:43:23.780 his process.

00:43:24.640 He gets in his car.

00:43:25.820 He's thinking about the fucked up shit that he read on the internet.

00:43:28.520 He drives to the studio.

00:43:29.700 He gets in there.

00:43:30.680 He rips for an hour into every topic.

00:43:33.240 He finds the funniest angle.

00:43:34.460 But then as soon as that's over, he's done.

00:43:37.200 He shuts it off.

00:43:37.860 He goes back to eating and fucking dude and whatever the closest hole is.

00:43:42.000 But if he was a serious like performer in a comic, I think he could, he could take those

00:43:47.260 premises and turn them into unbelievable bits.

00:43:49.580 And he could probably be the funniest comic in America because he's that brilliant on the

00:43:52.740 fly.

00:43:53.160 So that tells me he's lazy.

00:43:55.100 But there is a natural element of standup that, okay, like if he's with his camera and

00:44:00.800 he's there and he can feel comfortable to rant, one thing that happens in standup is when

00:44:05.380 you're in a room full of people and you're getting micro reactions all the time that there's

00:44:11.060 most people can't ever deal with that.

00:44:13.280 So like, let's say you have a great premise and you're on stage and you've worked on it

00:44:17.360 and you've done all this stuff.

00:44:18.300 And then, you know, someone coughs or someone says something out loud or, or like, you're

00:44:23.920 just, you're just perceiving human beings watching you.

00:44:27.780 And it's one of the craziest fucking feelings.

00:44:31.160 And I don't know.

00:44:32.240 It's like, it requires like a natural disposition to be able to shut off from that.

00:44:37.140 And like a lot of experience.

00:44:39.440 And I just don't think he has that.

00:44:41.420 I don't think a lot of these comics have that.

00:44:42.980 I, uh, well, and they've found, they found such, such rapid success too, because of

00:44:48.360 the relationships that like they didn't, I don't, I feel like Tim Dillon didn't go through

00:44:52.100 the fire quite the way some of some other comics have.

00:44:54.980 Yeah, absolutely.

00:44:56.200 Absolutely.

00:44:57.180 I've done standup twice and, uh, it was both times the most horrifying shit I've ever done

00:45:02.900 in my life.

00:45:03.340 It was, it was fucking like, it wasn't the actual act of getting on stage as much as it

00:45:08.040 was approaching the stage, driving to the venue, like getting ready to do this.

00:45:12.160 Like anticipatory anxiety for public speaking people, people, because they, they've, you

00:45:16.280 know, followed my podcast for years.

00:45:17.800 They assume that like public speaking to me is comes naturally.

00:45:20.980 And like, once I'm in it, I do a pretty good job.

00:45:23.000 But in terms of like the approach, the day of the night before it is hell for me, it

00:45:29.200 is like the worst experience of my life.

00:45:30.720 And as soon as I'm done, I'm thrilled, but like nobody can even wreck, like all of the

00:45:34.700 fans of Liberty Lockdown, none of them can even recognize the anxiety that I'm dealing

00:45:38.320 with.

00:45:38.560 It's just, it's just a fascinating, um, you know, it's an insane perception.

00:45:42.920 Dude, like a real comic has to have simultaneously a never ending desire to please the audience

00:45:50.400 and absolute disdain for the audience.

00:45:53.120 And it's funny.

00:45:53.980 Cause I, that's why we're outcasts.

00:45:55.680 Like I have that with like Clint, like, look what just happened with me and I'm like,

00:45:58.980 couldn't disagree more and fuck that.

00:46:00.640 But deep down, I'm like, I hope Clint likes me.

00:46:03.080 Right.

00:46:03.480 So it's like, it's like that with the audience, you found the balance.

00:46:07.100 I do.

00:46:07.660 So, yeah.

00:46:08.500 Cause you, cause you like on stage, you have to be like, like, fuck them.

00:46:12.740 They have no right to judge me.

00:46:13.900 And I will do everything in my power to give them a great feeling.

00:46:17.520 And like, you know, and that, that it's so contradictory that many times it can really

00:46:23.340 affect people's lives.

00:46:24.520 Like a lot, like a marriage or a friendships or anything, because you have to have like

00:46:29.400 love and disdain for the things that are important in your life.

00:46:34.080 And then, but once you're conscious of it and aware of it, it's kind of funny actually

00:46:38.420 how you're, it's like, turn it on and off.

00:46:40.880 It's like the, uh, Jordan Peterson always brings up that soul's knits in line, you know,

00:46:45.060 running straight through the heart of all men.

00:46:46.940 It's kind of the same thing.

00:46:48.020 It's like disdain on one side and ultimate desire to please on the other.

00:46:51.840 But I do think, I think that's totally true that balance it's actually, I think what makes

00:46:55.780 top, uh, very good at podcasting is like, he's, he very much wants to have an audience,

00:47:01.080 but he's also like absolutely vicious towards the fans.

00:47:04.340 Yeah.

00:47:04.780 And that's like, it's the most entertaining.

00:47:07.320 Cause in the end of the day, you don't want, you don't want someone like us to kiss your

00:47:11.520 ass or else it won't you, you think you do it first and then it would suck.

00:47:16.440 And at the same time, you also don't want someone that actually hates his audience.

00:47:20.420 You know, you want that combination is just rare.

00:47:23.660 Yeah.

00:47:24.020 It's a narrow road to, uh, to, uh, to walk.

00:47:27.280 I gotta, I gotta just a brief story.

00:47:29.140 Um, when I, it was 2022, was it when we went to Vegas Kanks fest?

00:47:34.400 22 or 23.

00:47:35.440 I don't remember.

00:47:35.740 I think it might've been 22, maybe it was 23, but whatever.

00:47:38.440 Um, Dave brings me into the green room and it's, uh, Tim Dillon, Ari Shafir, like all

00:47:44.100 the headliners are back there.

00:47:45.240 Um, Lewis and like Tim Dillon is obviously perturbed that a normie has been allowed in

00:47:52.120 the green room.

00:47:52.620 He doesn't like me at all.

00:47:53.420 I'm the only one in there that's not like a, you know, A-list comic.

00:47:56.300 Um, and Ari Shafir obviously is like pissed that I'm there.

00:48:01.200 Like mad, mad.

00:48:02.600 Why?

00:48:03.420 He's like, I can't drug and finger this guy.

00:48:06.940 What the fuck?

00:48:08.320 Exactly.

00:48:09.160 Um, but I just remember this, like it's those, it's those experiences that make you feel

00:48:13.720 like a total depth of knowledge of what the character of these guys are.

00:48:17.880 And then Dan Soder, who's sitting in the back has a 45 minute conversation with me about

00:48:22.520 football.

00:48:22.640 He's a nice guy.

00:48:23.600 He's awesome.

00:48:24.540 Just an awesome human.

00:48:25.300 He just has a warm glow about him.

00:48:27.920 Cause he's tall.

00:48:28.840 Like he's like, when I was, yeah, I was talking with him too at the merch stand and shit.

00:48:32.160 I'm like, like, he's just too tall to care about what other people think of him.

00:48:35.600 I think that's the air that I got from him.

00:48:37.600 I was like, this guy, this guy, and I think like really giant dudes typically have a bigger

00:48:42.220 capacity for love.

00:48:44.600 And I know that I'm huge.

00:48:46.180 I get it.

00:48:46.680 But it's like, but it's true.

00:48:48.520 We just kind of like, we just can love, we have big hearts.

00:48:52.120 I feel like it's easier to breathe up there.

00:48:53.900 Like there's more room.

00:48:55.100 You know what I mean?

00:48:55.400 Yeah.

00:48:55.580 Just you're never like plotting against people.

00:48:58.060 You're never like, it's also really up to something.

00:49:02.640 Cause he's huge.

00:49:03.320 I want to like that guy.

00:49:04.520 He's so tall.

00:49:05.120 He's so full of shit.

00:49:06.080 In my opinion.

00:49:06.880 Very, very suspicious.

00:49:08.140 And he, did you know he stole our research?

00:49:11.340 Did you guys know that?

00:49:12.080 That's true.

00:49:12.800 That's absolutely true.

00:49:13.880 Dude, he never gives credit to anybody.

00:49:15.700 And he's always trying to keep people away from the word nigger.

00:49:19.960 What does he know?

00:49:20.740 Today he's like, this is exactly what we want, what BlackRock wants.

00:49:24.400 I'm like, what?

00:49:26.640 So someone steals a purse and we can't say, let me guess.

00:49:30.180 We have to watch all your videos that are monetized to find the truth.

00:49:33.900 Yes.

00:49:34.500 It's so full of shit, man.

00:49:35.900 He's like, to find out more about BlackRock.

00:49:37.640 I'm like, you mean nigger rock?

00:49:39.440 Let me ask you something.

00:49:40.700 Right now, everybody on this, if Kanye West came out right now and he asked any of you guys

00:49:45.940 to do content with him, would you do content right now with Kanye?

00:49:49.580 I would.

00:49:49.920 Dude, he already did ask me and I wouldn't go to LA.

00:49:52.100 Why wouldn't you do content with Kanye, Owen?

00:49:56.580 Because he's like, there's like fruit in his boots.

00:49:58.900 I mean, I'm always like happy.

00:50:00.300 I was like happy for him.

00:50:01.900 And part of me really likes Kanye, but I'm like.

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00:50:45.300 Hashtag make a play.

00:50:46.740 He's just got the twinkle, and I just don't want to be around.

00:50:52.140 I don't like celebrities that are like really unstable and shit.

00:50:55.840 It just.

00:50:56.240 Right, yeah.

00:50:56.720 I just find it so fucking annoying.

00:50:58.440 No, he wanted me to go shoot sketches in LA before, and I'm like, I have to milk goats.

00:51:04.080 And he thought I was like joking, and I'm like, I'm not.

00:51:07.520 I have to milk goats.

00:51:09.040 Like you guys is fucking Bohemian Grove is the first show I have done outside of my own

00:51:15.380 on my land in six years.

00:51:17.820 Like I've been asked to do a couple of theaters and clubs, and I like think about it.

00:51:22.240 And then I'm like, no, because I just know.

00:51:26.220 I just like being around a bunch of like, I don't know.

00:51:29.560 I just don't have any interest.

00:51:30.800 But you guys, I like you guys, so I'm like, I'll hang out with these guys.

00:51:34.880 Yeah, that's going to be my question.

00:51:35.300 Why, Owen?

00:51:36.020 Why us?

00:51:36.500 Yeah, I was like.

00:51:37.160 Because I like you guys.

00:51:38.820 I don't fucking believe you.

00:51:41.460 I'm serious.

00:51:42.260 I think we'd have a good time, and it just sounds like an adventure.

00:51:44.420 Like you guys are like living people.

00:51:46.320 You know, it's like, it's not like, okay, so this is the brand, and this is the fucking.

00:51:50.520 It's like an adventure.

00:51:51.540 It's like, oh, there's a retard college.

00:51:53.240 You know, it just sounds like intriguing to me, and you guys, like just every time I riff

00:51:59.200 with you guys, like my audience, a lot of my audience is very, you know, they're like

00:52:04.040 not into degeneracy, and they enjoy Tower Gang.

00:52:06.820 They're like, those are some lovable degenerates, you know?

00:52:10.400 Here's the thing.

00:52:11.100 Like the truth about Tower Gang, there's only one of us that's degenerate, and he's on his

00:52:14.340 fucking way out.

00:52:15.400 But like we.

00:52:16.180 He's on his way out?

00:52:16.920 What's going on?

00:52:18.060 No, no.

00:52:18.340 I'm just joking.

00:52:19.200 Jose, you're on thin ice.

00:52:20.060 But like all of us in real life, like David, he's like part of Tower Gang.

00:52:25.900 He's a guy that sits in all the time.

00:52:27.240 Clint, very like good dude.

00:52:29.560 You guys are good dudes.

00:52:31.220 Yeah.

00:52:31.460 Cole is kind of shifty, but like good dude.

00:52:33.760 And we don't really live degenerate lifestyles.

00:52:35.580 No, I know.

00:52:36.000 That's the main thing.

00:52:37.420 Yeah, I say crazy shit, but like I don't do anything.

00:52:40.420 I have a very boring life.

00:52:41.840 I just hang out with my wife and my son.

00:52:43.400 Like I don't do anything.

00:52:44.440 Yeah, and people feel that.

00:52:45.440 It's like you can feel when someone.

00:52:46.960 Like I know people that say like gosh darn and stuff, and I get a feeling like they do

00:52:52.080 meth off a cock, you know?

00:52:53.660 Yeah, exactly.

00:52:54.760 And you guys just feel like good dude.

00:52:57.540 Yeah.

00:52:58.060 Like I feel like that instinct.

00:53:00.160 The gayness of Tower Gang is why I love it so much is it's the same gayness of hanging

00:53:05.860 out with your homies when you were like a teenager.

00:53:08.320 Yeah, exactly.

00:53:09.340 And it's like you weren't trying to blow your homies unless you were Kanye and he was your

00:53:13.340 cousin.

00:53:13.580 But like, you know, there was this this thing.

00:53:16.540 I don't know.

00:53:17.220 It was it was the cousin DJ thing, man.

00:53:19.400 I just can't look what what is that?

00:53:21.900 I know you guys have seven years.

00:53:24.560 It started grooming him at six.

00:53:28.140 What is the OK?

00:53:29.040 I blew his cousin for a dog year.

00:53:31.920 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:53:34.240 He was like showing pornos to a six year old and then like blew him for years.

00:53:39.040 And people don't know how old Kanye was when he showed the pornos.

00:53:41.900 Right.

00:53:42.680 Older than older than six.

00:53:44.800 What's the disparagement?

00:53:45.920 Like, what's the age difference there?

00:53:47.200 I don't know.

00:53:47.660 He didn't.

00:53:48.100 He kept that under wraps.

00:53:49.200 And I think that's how a good storyteller does things is you leave an element.

00:53:53.500 I hope it was within a year, dude.

00:53:55.000 I hope it wasn't like four years.

00:53:56.360 I hope it's insane.

00:53:57.200 I hope it's not true.

00:53:58.540 I hope it's all performative because if it's performative, it's the fucking most brilliant

00:54:02.060 thing ever.

00:54:02.960 Like what is great?

00:54:03.660 His arc of like Jesus is King, that album slapped all the way to like my wife is a prostitute

00:54:09.620 and I'm walking her naked through the streets of Paris to whatever he's doing now.

00:54:13.060 To me, if I can just detach myself from it, if this is an act, it's the greatest act

00:54:17.920 ever told.

00:54:18.840 And he's doing it on a huge stage.

00:54:20.080 But I think he might be crazy.

00:54:21.260 I don't think it's an act.

00:54:22.140 I don't think he blew his cousin.

00:54:24.320 Yeah.

00:54:24.940 You know why I like that?

00:54:25.880 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:54:26.500 Hold on.

00:54:26.700 He's got two tracks on this album.

00:54:31.140 One of them, he's like, Heil Hitler.

00:54:33.760 And then the next one is, I blew my cousin for seven years.

00:54:36.720 The name of the album is I Suck My Cousin's Dick.

00:54:38.560 I Suck My Cousin's Dick.

00:54:39.740 You know, here's why I like that he sucked his cousin's dick.

00:54:42.500 The reason I like it is because it takes, you know, I've only got a tiptoe in this world.

00:54:50.260 You got more than a toe right now.

00:54:51.880 Keep going.

00:54:52.480 No, no, no.

00:54:52.760 That's in the gay thing.

00:54:53.980 I'm a waist deep.

00:54:54.700 But in the realm of, um, recognizability, I'm, I'm a fraction of a toe deep.

00:55:00.600 And I recognize that as soon as you become somebody, you get a target on your back.

00:55:04.440 Everybody wants to come for you.

00:55:05.340 Everybody speculates this, that, and the other thing, and they will tear you the fuck down.

00:55:09.020 It is unbelievable to me to watch a man dig in his own heart, find the most vulnerable

00:55:14.640 thing that everyone will fucking kill him for and go here.

00:55:18.340 And he throws it at people.

00:55:19.560 And I go fucking kind of like, you know, you know, niggas at the park are going to be

00:55:24.200 blasting these songs.

00:55:26.240 It's fucking crazy.

00:55:27.340 I don't know.

00:55:28.020 That's cousin in prison right now is like getting stabbed, getting stabbed a lot.

00:55:33.760 Yeah.

00:55:33.900 And he's like, and then he killed a pregnant woman because he wouldn't suck his dick anymore.

00:55:38.260 I'm like, dude.

00:55:39.760 And then he sucked a mean dick.

00:55:41.120 And I can tell he doesn't really understand straight people that much because he's like,

00:55:46.040 when he was like, uh, blasting, uh, Kim about like fucking an NBA guy memories.

00:55:52.980 Like, yeah, Kim, how about when you fucked?

00:55:55.640 I don't even know any NBA players, but just Michael Jordan.

00:55:59.260 I don't know.

00:55:59.760 Like I haven't watched that shit in so long, but you're like, say Josh Morgan, Michael Jordan.

00:56:04.360 I got a confession to make.

00:56:05.360 Oh, and I've been buying fucking, uh, used naked Jordan shoes.

00:56:08.420 And I just can't stop.

00:56:10.020 That's all right.

00:56:10.760 Everyone's got their thing.

00:56:11.700 I like fizzies.

00:56:12.760 I like Pokemon cards.

00:56:14.620 You like lacroix?

00:56:15.700 Me too.

00:56:16.360 Yeah, dude.

00:56:16.920 I drink.

00:56:17.740 I'm not kidding.

00:56:18.580 I drink like 10 a day.

00:56:20.000 Dude, me too.

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00:57:04.060 Hashtag make a play.

00:57:05.520 Dude, I'm like onto other types of fizzy.

00:57:09.340 Like, cause I just like bubbly cans.

00:57:12.080 So like no sugar, no alcohol.

00:57:13.780 I'm fine.

00:57:14.640 No problem.

00:57:15.540 I like, I like the ritual of just pounding cans of bubbles.

00:57:18.880 I like the, the cherry lime and the limoncello.

00:57:22.820 Those are my two favorite ones.

00:57:25.160 Just to finish that one thing about, uh, Kanye when he was like, yeah, she's not, she, this

00:57:29.900 is going to really embarrass her.

00:57:31.240 I'm like, no, like it's you.

00:57:33.500 Like you, so your wife fucked a guy and you're like using that to diss her.

00:57:37.700 I'm like, that's like gay thinking.

00:57:40.660 Yeah.

00:57:41.200 You know, because it means you're like you cucked.

00:57:44.560 Imagine if I was like, man, I can't wait to get back at my wife.

00:57:49.360 Did you know the whole time she was fucking Coddington?

00:57:53.320 What?

00:57:54.680 You know what I mean?

00:57:55.640 It'd be like, dude, like, and so it would be like little moments like that.

00:58:00.720 It's also like gay dudes usually like, like, uh, red bar brought this up.

00:58:04.780 Red bar is fucking hysterical.

00:58:06.580 He brought up, uh, talk about a comedian.

00:58:09.060 That guy just makes fun of people in a really high level way.

00:58:12.580 Like he did this whole bit about instead of yay, Y E it's G E gay.

00:58:18.960 And they did this out of fact.

00:58:20.180 It's, it's great writing.

00:58:21.420 It's very funny.

00:58:22.380 But how, uh, gay guys always like, like Angelina Jolie, you know, it's like the, like the chick

00:58:27.620 that everyone thinks like, like the one that's held up is being hot.

00:58:32.000 They're like, I want her.

00:58:33.580 And a straight guy's like, no, it's the chick at fucking Outback Steakhouse.

00:58:37.280 Like we don't, you know what I mean?

00:58:39.060 We don't like celebrities.

00:58:40.560 Yeah.

00:58:41.000 The girl at Aldi's is hotter than, again, I don't, whatever they're showing us.

00:58:44.980 They're also showing us a lot of these bitches with the eyes like separated from the head.

00:58:48.440 There's something.

00:58:49.100 Yeah.

00:58:49.740 I've been saying what it is, is it's, it's victimhood culture.

00:58:53.300 Predators eyes are on the front.

00:58:55.160 They're forward facing eyes.

00:58:56.580 Women have, uh, embodied victimhood culture to the extent that their eyes are beginning

00:59:01.100 to shift to mimic prey animals.

00:59:03.400 So they're always looking for danger.

00:59:05.840 I think that's what's going on and they're normalizing it.

00:59:08.340 Hollywood is giving us wide eyed bitches left and right.

00:59:11.400 I think behavior legit is like, I think physiognomy is so true.

00:59:15.920 It's insane.

00:59:16.520 Now I think cheating and sneaking literally gives you a big nose.

00:59:20.380 I'm not kidding.

00:59:21.260 I used to think that you couldn't judge a book by its cover.

00:59:23.340 And now I'm go absolutely.

00:59:24.220 You can, it's, it's actually incredibly reliable.

00:59:27.380 I never believed in physiognomy until, uh, Rabbi Schmooly came on the scene and I was

00:59:31.700 like, no, I was wrong.

00:59:33.060 Yeah.

00:59:33.380 No, it's also about where you start to where you end up.

00:59:37.900 You know, it's like, it's like, does your face change over the years?

00:59:41.140 It's one thing if you're born looking a certain way, but your face starts changing based on

00:59:45.740 like how you act and think.

00:59:47.280 I think so.

00:59:47.740 Yeah.

00:59:48.080 I think so too.

00:59:48.860 Like an evil kind of like, you know, so you get like a sunken head, the posture becomes

00:59:53.220 like hunchback and your face becomes scrunched.

00:59:56.260 And those people typically like that, that kind of, I don't know what it is.

00:59:59.380 Maybe it's the hand, but it, it, it emulates.

01:00:01.700 I think also the, the swollen, like the swollen face or the swelling face is like a product

01:00:06.660 of usually alcoholism.

01:00:08.420 And that's a product of, of, you know, degenerate behavior that you're like guilty over.

01:00:12.420 And then, so I do think that there is something to your physical appearance being reflective

01:00:16.120 of your internal workings.

01:00:17.900 How do your eyes shift like that from just like behavior, you know?

01:00:22.700 Well, I think that's just from the vaccine schedule personally.

01:00:25.440 So what do you guys, what do you think about Russell Brand?

01:00:27.720 Has his face changed at all?

01:00:29.800 Has he raped these people?

01:00:32.420 I mean, I'd be shocked if he didn't like, if, if sexual assault is grabbing some chick's

01:00:37.760 ass while you're on set, I'd be shocked if Russell Brand hasn't done that.

01:00:41.580 If, if he, if he has actually like violently raped one of these women, I would be surprised.

01:00:47.520 He's doing like fucking poppers and, and, you know, going to these big gay parties.

01:00:51.580 Like he was, um, uh, a sexual icon during the height of his Hollywood career.

01:00:56.260 And you know, what sort of behavior that begets he's, he's balls deep.

01:01:00.060 When you think about debaucherous behavior and, and fucked up parties that Hollywood elites

01:01:04.000 are in, it's him.

01:01:05.140 He's in those.

01:01:05.800 I don't, I'm not surprised at any of this shit.

01:01:08.220 Yeah.

01:01:08.580 So you think, you think he's a full on rape rapist?

01:01:11.800 Well, I don't know like what rape rape means, you know, it's like, do you hold a gun to

01:01:16.000 someone's head or like, what is that?

01:01:17.460 You know what I mean?

01:01:18.340 Yeah.

01:01:18.560 I mean, I think those guys, I think those guys are like, if you're around me, that's

01:01:24.520 like consent and everyone's fucking all the time.

01:01:26.780 I don't think he's like, I doubt he like punched someone in the face and, you know, but I,

01:01:32.600 I think that I just think that those environments, it's like, I'm almost like a feminist now.

01:01:37.940 I'm like, it's kind of all rape.

01:01:40.280 Yeah.

01:01:40.740 I would say, so if he's a rapist, I agree with Owen.

01:01:44.680 I don't think Russell brand is power bombing bitches and blasting them in the ass.

01:01:48.160 But what I do think is happening is it's a constant revolving door of questionable scenarios.

01:01:53.980 Right.

01:01:54.400 And, and that is all of them do that.

01:01:57.080 And that's why they're just pulling these up.

01:01:59.020 Cause they, they don't like them for, you know, for whatever, that's what it is.

01:02:01.860 Yeah.

01:02:02.340 They've decided to hang them out to dry for one reason or another.

01:02:05.300 And I'm sorry.

01:02:06.240 I know we're on the Russell brand thing, but I got to pull it back.

01:02:08.260 Cause I've been dying to have this conversation and nobody will engage with me.

01:02:10.840 And I think I understand why I will, but I have to ask this question.

01:02:14.500 You know, you, let's say you have absent parents and you know, as a child, you are exposed to

01:02:21.020 things that you shouldn't be exposed to.

01:02:23.060 And it's an unfortunate thing, but it happens.

01:02:24.600 Right.

01:02:25.600 Now let's say.

01:02:26.400 Luis J Gomez had that happen in section eight housing.

01:02:29.500 Go on.

01:02:30.560 I'm sure everybody in section eight housing has had that happen to them.

01:02:33.220 Now let's say you're, this is a hypothetical.

01:02:36.600 You're the same age, but you end up, you end up sucking off your cousin.

01:02:41.220 It's just like, Oh, what happened?

01:02:42.500 Mom's not here.

01:02:43.040 Dad's not here.

01:02:43.880 We've been watching porno mags or whatever.

01:02:46.040 Now we're sucking each other off.

01:02:47.620 What is the cutoff date?

01:02:49.360 What is the age where you go like, Oh shit, I've got a whole bright future ahead of me.

01:02:53.800 I better stop sucking this nigga's dick.

01:02:55.340 What is the cutoff?

01:02:56.800 Nine.

01:02:57.320 Nine.

01:02:57.640 I think it is nine.

01:02:58.640 Yeah.

01:02:58.800 There was a, so like when I was younger, they had like a, you remember like the cable box

01:03:03.080 with the black box that you could like charge it up and get whatever.

01:03:07.100 My cousins would put that on and it would be like an event.

01:03:09.740 They'd be like, yo, everybody like.

01:03:11.380 Me too.

01:03:11.980 Yeah.

01:03:12.120 We used to watch pornos in the same room and get boners and stuff, which is gay.

01:03:15.160 I get it.

01:03:15.500 Weird.

01:03:15.720 Yeah.

01:03:16.140 It's gay.

01:03:16.720 But like at a certain point, I remember at a certain point being like, we can't do this

01:03:20.660 anymore.

01:03:21.280 Like, this is like, I gotta get my own black box and do it in my own room.

01:03:25.240 But like, it was, it was like borderline gay because there's just a bunch of dudes who

01:03:28.480 was like, yo, I got this thing.

01:03:29.680 And I guess like the prior generations would have been like, I have these nude magazines,

01:03:33.360 right?

01:03:33.520 Come and look at them.

01:03:34.680 And then you do that.

01:03:35.660 But like, there is an age.

01:03:37.100 Maybe not.

01:03:37.440 I think it's single, single digit age behavior.

01:03:39.880 And like, once you get in the double digits, if you're still, you know, getting boned up with

01:03:43.940 your homeboys, you're pretty gay.

01:03:45.460 I think it depends.

01:03:46.540 I would say, um, maybe we'll give them to 11 because you ever meet a kid and you go,

01:03:51.700 you're incredibly innocent.

01:03:52.920 Uh, okay.

01:03:54.020 You ever meet like a 13 year old?

01:03:55.400 I think there's puberty and nine.

01:03:57.720 Puberty and nine.

01:03:58.460 Well, I could see that.

01:03:59.920 It's like weird jumps.

01:04:00.500 Cause like just watching my kids, like when right around nine, something shifts where they're

01:04:05.500 just like more of a real person.

01:04:07.500 That's exactly the age that my son's at.

01:04:09.620 Yeah.

01:04:09.820 They like, can't, they're completely innocent.

01:04:12.500 Like you could get them to do literally anything.

01:04:14.520 And then at nine, there's like that, that glimmer of like, they're real now.

01:04:20.080 And then personality develops.

01:04:21.940 Yeah.

01:04:22.380 Yeah.

01:04:22.600 And they, they have that ability of pushing back against even their most trusted people.

01:04:27.720 And then puberty is a big shift.

01:04:29.980 And then there's one after you've been canceled by YouTube.

01:04:33.520 That's another stepping stone.

01:04:36.480 Most people don't reach that one, but you have.

01:04:38.060 No, I just know that sometimes I'll meet kids.

01:04:40.920 Like I have nieces and nephews that are the same age and they live in different households.

01:04:45.440 Now, some of them are, are, you know, they're like teenagers and you go, okay, I remember

01:04:49.160 what it was like to be you.

01:04:50.400 And then another one, you go like, you're still, you've got some core of innocence, whatever

01:04:55.480 happened to, whatever happened to your cousins hasn't happened to you yet.

01:04:58.940 And you've carried this into, you know, some considerable year, whatever that is, 1230.

01:05:04.120 So I just wonder, uh, uh, yeah, if, if it's a prefrontal cortex thing, it develops to a

01:05:09.420 certain extent.

01:05:09.880 Now, all of a sudden you're a person, uh, and I guess it happens differently for everybody,

01:05:13.580 but I'm comfortable with nine.

01:05:14.700 I think that's fair.

01:05:15.520 Thank you.

01:05:15.920 Thank you guys for answering.

01:05:17.340 It's not like I'm just trying to, uh, shame and shit.

01:05:20.260 Like, you know, like having a, a whack in a room with like, dude, you know, when you're

01:05:24.580 like young with your homies, yeah.

01:05:26.260 Happen, you know?

01:05:27.160 And that's like weird and gay, but it does, I don't know.

01:05:32.040 It's not something to, it's different when you're like, yeah, I, I sucked my, my fucking

01:05:36.780 cousin's dick till I was 14.

01:05:38.640 That's crazy.

01:05:39.340 Like, for example, like, look at that.

01:05:40.740 Like my hometown, that's what every kid did.

01:05:43.340 They were like, it was like a perverse drunk working class town.

01:05:47.400 And it was fucking weird.

01:05:48.680 We had something called the party barn where everyone, it was like a trip to Mecca where

01:05:52.940 you go to this barn in the middle of the woods and it's filled with like old fucking

01:05:56.800 playboys going back decades.

01:05:58.460 It's like my town is like right out of a, like a sci-fi movie about post-apocalyptic,

01:06:03.540 you know?

01:06:04.420 Yeah.

01:06:04.700 And so, but I, I wonder like, is that what created me to be more comfortable on a stage?

01:06:11.380 Like I'm, I don't have that human reaction of like, this is weird to be in this environment,

01:06:17.020 but I was never sucking anyone's dicks.

01:06:19.400 So like, if you're sucking it, which is weird, like I'm a little off where it's like, I can

01:06:24.300 be in front of 50,000 people.

01:06:25.960 Like I'm alone talking, like did that influence that, you know?

01:06:30.000 And so it's like, if you're blowing a six-year-old, like you may have, like, you're not trustworthy

01:06:37.060 at that point.

01:06:37.880 Like I don't, you know, I can be understanding, but it's like, that will affect the way you

01:06:42.620 see the world the rest of your life forever.

01:06:44.340 Does that contribute to you becoming like a superstar on the world stage the way he

01:06:49.740 is?

01:06:49.940 Cause Kanye West, it's trauma.

01:06:52.320 Even if you're sucking it, it's still trauma.

01:06:54.860 Yeah.

01:06:54.880 And it's like turning off a lot of these human reactions because dude, being famous, like

01:07:00.060 sucks.

01:07:01.140 And no one will admit that because everybody just wants like, they feel they want attention

01:07:06.480 or something.

01:07:07.360 I don't know what it is, but it's like crazy nuts world.

01:07:11.320 And so only a certain amount of really fucked up people could handle being Kanye West or

01:07:17.220 Taylor Swift or any of these people, because it's like, it's imagine, imagine you walked

01:07:22.280 down the street and every single person just goes, it's like, it's like worse than schizophrenia.

01:07:30.360 It's worse than like the darkest schizophrenia.

01:07:32.620 We're like horrifying.

01:07:33.760 Yeah.

01:07:34.100 We're like little eyeballs are following you everywhere and taking pictures of you and then shaming

01:07:38.540 you and wanting to fuck you and wanting to kill you all the time.

01:07:41.260 That's why I never get, I never looked at celebrities weird when they freak out on paparazzi.

01:07:45.060 Um, especially like Britney Spears and everything like that.

01:07:47.320 Fucking, she was a kid when this shit started and these people were relentless.

01:07:51.140 She lived a horrified life.

01:07:52.300 I watched a documentary one time where I, I I'm watching a young Britney Spears and I'm

01:07:56.240 going, she is remarkable.

01:07:57.820 Like she's incredibly confident.

01:07:59.340 She's sharp as a tack.

01:08:00.320 Um, and, and she was very kind and sweet and generous to everybody.

01:08:04.980 And, and now we have this lady who's dual wielding butcher knives and I'm like, yeah,

01:08:09.060 dude, they, they fucked this kid up like real bad.

01:08:12.100 So he never grew.

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01:08:41.440 No, well, there's still seven except like in this world of like insanity, you know?

01:08:46.580 Yeah.

01:08:46.940 Well, and she's like 45.

01:08:49.180 Uh, it's so strange because I, I see her videos where she's doing her fucking her knife

01:08:53.440 dancing and shit.

01:08:54.160 And she's like pulling her bathing suit bottom down.

01:08:56.620 Oh yeah.

01:08:56.960 Like to the, to the cusp of her badge.

01:08:59.720 And I'm like, I never thought I would live long enough to see, to be at a time where

01:09:05.280 Britney Spears wants me to see her pussy and I don't want to see it.

01:09:08.380 And like for someone from my generation, that is so stunning.

01:09:11.620 Like that, that just seems like an impossibility, but here we are.

01:09:14.520 I just wanted to point out, I just wanted to point out, yeah, exactly.

01:09:17.140 I just wanted to point out, are you arguing that, that kind of, or I don't know if it

01:09:21.900 was Owen or Top, but someone said basically like that him blowing his cousin for seven

01:09:25.940 years helped him on the path to stardom somehow?

01:09:28.900 Yes.

01:09:29.460 Yeah.

01:09:29.760 Cause it like, it turned off a bunch of, um, natural responses, which makes you not famous.

01:09:35.780 It'd be famous.

01:09:37.460 It's like, you have to go into a room and cry on cue in the acting world.

01:09:42.140 It's nutty, man.

01:09:42.940 It's like, Oh, I'm sure those people are like, I'm just fucked up enough to be like a good

01:09:46.780 standup comic.

01:09:47.640 But apparently I'm like less fucked up than a lot of these comics.

01:09:50.400 But it's like actor, like a really good actor has to be able to go in front of like old

01:09:57.560 men staring at them and pretend that their dog just died and they're getting married like

01:10:03.180 with tears.

01:10:03.960 Like that happens when you're like, you know, like these, these traumatic events, when you're

01:10:08.780 a kid, it shuts you off.

01:10:09.740 It's, it's kind of like these big bankers.

01:10:11.920 Like if you're going to make money on the, a war, like if you're going to be like, we're

01:10:15.820 going to make, you know, if a million people die, we make 1.8 billion.

01:10:20.400 You got to have these things shut off.

01:10:22.260 And that's why the thing that so many people crave comes from a lack of humanity that comes

01:10:26.460 from trauma.

01:10:27.620 It's a, it's a disassociation.

01:10:29.560 This is, this is actually, I'm going to leave the fucking banner up.

01:10:32.020 This is what Ian Carroll stole from us, stole from us, poorly, poorly, poorly.

01:10:36.840 Um, so we were, he has a disassociated mustache too.

01:10:40.640 Go on.

01:10:42.220 He has a great mustache.

01:10:43.480 How dare you?

01:10:44.140 That's his like really redeeming quality.

01:10:46.040 And also I'd like to talk with Ian Carroll.

01:10:47.440 I think he's a interesting guy.

01:10:49.140 And I want to know if he's legit or not, but yeah, my opinions do not reflect anyone else's

01:10:53.960 opinions.

01:10:54.820 No, I don't give a fuck.

01:10:55.800 Like whatever.

01:10:56.240 No, I know.

01:10:56.720 But I do just like hammer at people and I'm just like, fuck, sorry.

01:11:00.260 I will say this to his face as well.

01:11:03.620 I mean, look, here's the fucking, I know he watches the show because he's been stealing

01:11:07.000 our content.

01:11:07.520 So there's our banner, Ian.

01:11:09.680 Um, I wrote that, but we were talking about the idea of a disassociation, uh, autism back,

01:11:16.500 the vaccine schedule and how it relates to, uh, um, the telepathy tapes, which is like

01:11:22.480 the number one or was the number one podcast that dethroned Joe Rogan for a little while.

01:11:26.520 And there's like a concerted effort within the telepathy tapes with, within the people

01:11:31.440 that are doing the kids that are doing telepathy to disassociate in order to create these conditions

01:11:37.180 where they can read their parents' mind, travel to, uh, the astral or what they were calling

01:11:42.320 it, the hill, things like that.

01:11:43.400 And then you get into the research of Andreeja Puharic, who was, uh, you know, for basically

01:11:49.100 creating this state in people and doing it chemically or doing it, uh, I guess you call

01:11:55.280 it spiritually, David, like, like through channeling, but this is what we have been doing.

01:12:00.380 You like in order to, uh, they, they call it ascension, like ascending and becoming like

01:12:06.480 one consciousness, you have to disassociate, but now they're doing it chemically to children

01:12:11.700 all over the place. And it seems like they're just looking to see what falls where, like

01:12:16.340 we have now created the conditions for all these children to meaningfully disassociate

01:12:21.260 from their body, their mind from their body. And now we're just being studied and you're

01:12:25.760 seeing a lot of shit like this. And it's like, I don't, I don't really trust what's

01:12:28.340 going on.

01:12:28.740 You know what? It's gotten to the point where I'm starting to really entertain this idea

01:12:36.080 that the vaccine schedule is an arm of the MK ultra program.

01:12:39.900 Yeah. That's what I think now. Cause it's the same exact thing.

01:12:44.420 Yeah, totally. Yeah. Cause I, I see like human beings are almost like drop, like if it's like

01:12:49.560 a drop of water and that's your soul and they're trying to get the water into a puddle, you know?

01:12:54.580 And so they're trying to detach the detached, like the, the drop of water from its ability

01:13:01.200 to be its own drop. And then they just start putting it into like a, like a, uh, like while

01:13:06.500 you're alive, putting it into like a large amount of other drops of water until you don't

01:13:12.400 have any identity. And then you can just start like projecting and doing all this shit. Cause

01:13:17.440 that's, that's why back in the day they would like rape kids and stuff. It's not for no

01:13:21.860 reason. It's to detach them from their bodies. You know, it's the same thing with psychedelics

01:13:26.740 and the, the ego death, right? You take psychedelics, you experience an ego death and that's good.

01:13:31.520 I was just going to make that point about the music industry, acting Hollywood, um, is

01:13:36.620 like that, that does seem to be the trend line or like, that's why it's the, the gate by which

01:13:42.180 you get into the higher echelons of power is that you have to be like sexually predated

01:13:47.180 upon. And then, and then once you're, once you're broken, then they're like, all right,

01:13:51.540 you can come in.

01:13:52.080 So Owen, let me, let me ask you, this might get too personal. You don't want to answer

01:13:55.580 the thing with the, with Joey Diaz, when he, when he gave you that shit in like, you, you didn't

01:14:01.240 know what you were taking or you didn't know like this. I knew it was a pot brownie. I didn't know

01:14:05.920 like that. It was like 300 milligrams and I wasn't even like a pot smoker really. I mean, I had, but

01:14:12.520 I didn't know. I didn't. Yeah. The star of death. I didn't know what like to, like,

01:14:18.300 I didn't realize pot could be like that, you know? Right. I'm so, I'm so sensitive to the pot

01:14:23.880 that I fucking, I took like the little, little tiny chocolate square. Then I had to sit in my

01:14:29.020 car for three hours, listening to the gospel music to try and bring myself back to sand. I am fragile,

01:14:33.680 bro. Yeah. Joey Diaz basically gave me like, like a giant bar of that, like a fucking Willy Wonka

01:14:39.800 bar of that. Yeah. That's insane. So like, but this idea, cause in a, in a sense he, he sort of like,

01:14:45.000 you sort of like probably disassociated at that. Like if you don't realize that you're getting that

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01:15:15.760 charge. Um, you disassociated, but you came out on the other side, like looking at things more

01:15:22.380 clearly. Yeah. It helped me in a way. Yeah. But so a lot of people say like, oh yeah, they want to do

01:15:28.160 like, you know, the mushroom trips and stuff like that. And it's, it is to disassociate, but a lot of it

01:15:33.520 doesn't end up great. Like, but I think the point or I think the differentiation is like, if it happens to a

01:15:40.260 child, they disassociate out of survival instincts. If it happens to an adult who's had a relatively

01:15:47.040 solid upbringing, I think you can, you can then reflect on your life in a different way and make

01:15:51.700 positive changes as a consequence. If you're a child though, like it's a lot harder to do that.

01:15:56.520 Yeah. Would you agree with that moment? I think that's a good question. Would you have not taken

01:16:00.860 that? Would you have not taken that pot brownie? If you know, I would do everything I've ever done.

01:16:06.420 I would still do now. Cause it got me where I am. Like I regret nothing. And it's not because I've

01:16:11.860 never been wrong. It's just like, what would have happened if I did it? You know, like I got to see

01:16:17.100 and it was brutal for a few days. Like I felt like a kind of different person. Like I remember like

01:16:22.520 holding my arm and feeling my bone and being like, that's not me. That's like a rock. Like I could pick

01:16:28.980 this up on the beach. You know, I'm like, this isn't me. Like, and I was kept telling Amy, like,

01:16:33.660 that's not me. And, uh, and I saw Joey, he looked at like a, like a literal demon. Like he was like,

01:16:40.980 yeah, dog. So yeah. And I just was like, where the fuck am I? And then I was like, I need to get

01:16:47.300 some air. And while he's doing the podcast, I just never returned. And I drove home. Yeah. And I was

01:16:52.960 like this place, there's like demons here. You know, do you think, do you think when you saw that demon

01:16:57.280 and Joey, I find Joey Diaz very funny, but do you think when you saw that demon in his face,

01:17:01.160 you think that that's like, there's just the drugs or do you think that like, you got to peek behind

01:17:05.300 the veil? Because there's a phenomenon that's been going around that, uh, the demon face syndrome

01:17:09.880 that people are looking at. I don't know if you guys remember that during like when COVID was in

01:17:13.240 full swing, they're like, we're fucking seeing people, you were seeing demons in people's faces.

01:17:17.160 It was a warning. It was an article that came out like, uh, uh, you know, fascinating development.

01:17:20.900 People may soon start experiencing what we call a demon face syndrome, which is not even clever

01:17:26.200 or anyway, six feet apart. Keep it moving. It used to be called schizophrenia. I, it just

01:17:31.140 coincidentally arose when everyone was like social distancing and staying home by themselves. Like

01:17:36.180 people were losing their fucking minds and they were pathologizing. Do you think that there is a

01:17:39.720 demon inside of Joey Diaz that I think everybody has like demons in them on some level. And I think

01:17:46.960 I got to see Joe. He's yeah, I think so. I think so. Based off of what I think it's true.

01:17:52.500 Yeah. I think, I think demons are like, uh, wherever you, you don't take your authority,

01:17:58.440 something fills in. And I think, and I've felt that in myself, if you, if you can't like see it

01:18:05.000 in yourself, then you're really missing it. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Well, uh, you know, after I know

01:18:11.020 you had a discussion with Marsinski and so did we on a couple of Nephilim death squad. And I think he's

01:18:16.000 right, man. I think even the thoughts, what you identify as your own thoughts, they're not your own

01:18:19.840 thoughts. They're intrusive. They're abrupt. They're fully developed when they arrive to your

01:18:24.940 awareness. I don't think it's you, man. I think it's, it's, uh, outside. You don't think any of

01:18:29.740 your thoughts are you? Very few. I think that there are some thoughts, like if I'm, if something crosses

01:18:33.960 my mind and then I'm having an internal dialogue where I'm considering, Oh, isn't that strange? What

01:18:38.100 do I think about that? Like that? Yeah. Yeah. You're using like a tool. Yes. Yeah. But, uh,

01:18:42.480 holy fool, the holy fool idea. It does give me pause because I see the people emailing us and

01:18:48.380 they're like, dude, like you crossed the line several times in this last, especially if it's

01:18:52.860 just me and David on an episode where we'll read like a listener submissions, uh, emails and stuff

01:18:57.980 like that. And we're like, we crossed that line. And I was like, well, how much of that is me? How

01:19:01.740 much of that is whatever top lobster is? And how much of that is like, like actually who I am,

01:19:07.020 but it's, it's very strange. How much is it the listener that's scared you're going to say

01:19:10.880 something that hurts their demon? Yeah. That's it. This is another, I don't think that they're

01:19:15.460 actually offended. Like I think that now I think that's, I've seen that over and over again, like

01:19:22.240 really, really Christian people that are super not into any vulgarity and stuff. They wouldn't

01:19:28.000 write a letter. They just wouldn't listen. I will say this. Oh, and really, real quick. Um,

01:19:33.480 like, ah, man, it was like a year or so ago. You were like, what's a good show to listen to?

01:19:37.160 And I sent you the confessionals and you're like, this is a great show. And then you

01:19:40.860 poked him. You poked Tony a little bit and you immediately came back to me. He's like,

01:19:45.200 this guy's kind of like got whatever. Like, and then you're like, I'm not going to even bother.

01:19:49.680 He doesn't, he doesn't talk to us at all anymore. Like he's completely. And it's for that reason.

01:19:54.240 I guess he's seen like what I do on Twitter. And then there's just like hands off, but I was like,

01:19:57.880 ah, I think you've got the same feeling for it. And it's a shame because I love his show.

01:20:01.780 Yeah. But there is like that weird disconnect. And I'm like, is it, am I doing something? Cause I'm not

01:20:06.340 going to change. I'm not going to be fake to myself. I don't care about anyone else. Listen,

01:20:10.480 but I'm not going to be fake and then present that just so that I could fit in with somebody.

01:20:14.760 They want you to associate too. They want like, whenever, whenever you get that feeling where

01:20:19.880 someone wants you to not be yourself, it's never going to end well. And I'm good at making up with

01:20:26.100 people. Like I don't have the only time I would keep like hold a grudge is if, uh, someone like

01:20:32.120 directly came at my family, not even, not even just made fun of my family, but like put them in some

01:20:37.080 form of danger. But other than that, like, dude, me and Dave Smith could be laughing in 30 seconds.

01:20:43.060 Like I don't, but I'm never not going to be myself. Cause then you're blind. Like at that point,

01:20:48.020 a lot of people have been doing that lately. They've been emailing us and I get it. I know

01:20:52.140 if you see or hear our rhetoric, um, if you don't understand like how I feel inside, then you will

01:20:58.760 perceive that as like, Oh, this dude that I listened to is filled with hatred. I don't think that they

01:21:03.560 really think that I think that they're like, they're scared that you're slaughtering one of

01:21:08.980 their sacred cows or they're, or they're like your freedom makes them uncomfortable. That happens to

01:21:15.060 me sometimes. We're like, I'll be going super hard at the Jews. And then I'll be like, man,

01:21:18.940 Jacob Rothschild was a legend, you know? And people are like, and they want you to stop because they're

01:21:24.760 like, I can't predict you. And I'm like, yeah, cause I'm not a fucking algorithm. The thing that makes us

01:21:30.940 valuable in the future is to not be AI. So like people are like, no, I have to be able to like

01:21:38.300 predict everything you're going to say, or else I feel so uncomfortable that it means you're trying

01:21:43.060 to hurt me. And that's narcissism. And that means that they're, they're literally going like spirit

01:21:48.080 blind. If, if you are predictable, you are replaceable, like AI world, a really interesting

01:21:55.480 kind of microcosm, what you're talking about too, about like damaging someone else's demons by

01:22:00.120 something you said. And that's why they're upset. Last night I had the same thing happen. Someone

01:22:03.700 said, dude, I really wish that you'd go back to talking about, you know, Austrian economics and

01:22:07.760 leave this conspiracy shit alone. You sound like a schizophrenic. And I was like, I was like, why

01:22:13.380 would you even feel like you have the ability to dictate what I talk about? Like, right. That's such

01:22:18.300 a crazy thing to do. I would never do that to anybody. Um, but you know, I blocked and I moved on

01:22:23.380 and like, there's no hard feelings. I just realized that like what he was challenged by was that I was

01:22:28.780 taking his mind into a place that he was uncomfortable with all the time. They'll go,

01:22:33.800 they'll, they'll say something like, uh, you know, you really shouldn't do X, Y, Z because it's going

01:22:38.340 to be bad for you in the future. And then I look at like, I was like, what the fuck I built by doing

01:22:42.120 X, Y, Z over and over again. Well, yeah. And you can just see their immorality. It's like

01:22:46.580 they're claiming position of God when they do that. They like, they know the future. You know what I

01:22:51.660 mean? Where it's like, if you do this, your future will be wrong. It's like, are you omnipotent?

01:22:55.280 Like you can see their deep, like, I know people throw the word around, but there is like a blast

01:23:00.700 for me to that, where it's like, I know your future. I can tell you what will be good or bad

01:23:05.860 for you. It's like, bitch, you don't know anything. And it's like, Clint, you should be like, yeah,

01:23:09.480 I love Austrian economics. There's this guy in the thirties. And then just a real big fan of him.

01:23:17.040 Pop it. I've been having that experience lately with, um, and this guy did the right thing. Um,

01:23:22.720 uh, the guy, Steve from AM wake up, I've been fucking with him and I've been screaming like an

01:23:28.980 insane person in all caps on Twitter. And I've been accusing him of, of just insane things,

01:23:33.440 stealing my moon map. Uh, uh, you know, uh, I've been demanding apologies and forehead kisses. I've

01:23:39.160 been, I, and I've been just going on a tangent nonstop. I've been posting pictures of them.

01:23:43.060 And, uh, and there's a couple of different ways that gets received by people.

01:23:47.020 One, they get it. It's silly. It's fun. And I, I am behaving in a way that it is impulsive,

01:23:54.860 but it's cathartic and it makes me happy. So he has been talking about us for, he's been talking

01:23:59.780 about me for like four years and I just don't care. And then he's now he's talking about me and

01:24:04.220 David show and we're like, okay, you want attention? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So

01:24:10.740 but I, but I don't, I don't hate Steve though. And, and, and, and if I ever met him, I, I, you

01:24:15.560 know, serve him with a smile and ask him if he gets it, you know what I mean? And it would be all

01:24:19.180 good, but people see that and they think all kinds of things. They think number one, you're spiraling,

01:24:23.200 you've lost your mind or number two, you are some sort of really hyper aggressive asshole. It's like,

01:24:28.040 I wouldn't do anything to Steven. Sweet, sweet Steven. I'm just playing a game. It's fun. If you log into

01:24:33.360 that algorithm and you become predictable, you are among other things, giving up your sense of fun.

01:24:39.020 Like I, I feel that freedom of being on X and looking at all these people who are asking things

01:24:45.080 like, have you ever been there? Right. And, and instead you come to my corner of Twitter and I'm

01:24:50.260 screaming to you about eggs and I'm screaming to you about moon maps and I'm screaming to you about

01:24:55.960 Steven and I'm telling him that I'm reasonable and I just want an apology. Are you aware of the

01:25:00.520 nigga verse? Ooh, I know about the nigga verse. Yes. Owen, Owen, you were in the nigga verse. You are in

01:25:06.880 the nigga verse. Uh, but admittedly for whatever reason, Grok was like, I'm going to make him an

01:25:10.860 Indian man. Uh, I will not make him a black man. And so yours didn't go as viral. And people looked

01:25:16.000 at me when I was doing that too. And they were like, what the fuck's wrong with him? And I'm like,

01:25:19.560 I'm sorry. I'm having fun. You faggots. Have you? I like so good at setting traps. They they've

01:25:26.220 learned to not fuck with me kind of. Cause I'll like, I'll like plan ahead and I'll do something that

01:25:33.240 they then fall for like the slavery bit I did where they were like saying it was better to kill

01:25:37.700 a black baby than, than let me, uh, have work on the farm. And then it starts like going back at

01:25:43.560 them. And so I like my rhetoric ability is, it's kind of, you know, I get it. I wouldn't fuck with

01:25:49.860 me either. But it's like, I think, I think like the, the narcissism is what makes like whenever you

01:25:55.720 see something like this looks real bad, bro. I'm like that appeals to narcissists. Cause narcissists

01:26:02.360 care how other people perceive them. And that's why they're always appealing that. Oh, you guys

01:26:07.180 look really bad when you do that. It's like, why are you telling me? That's like telling me like,

01:26:11.640 you're not going to get any gay sex. If you do that. I'm like, I don't care. Like I don't want

01:26:17.800 gay sex. Right. That's the, that's the really unhealthy aspect about social media is that, um,

01:26:23.580 like, Oh, that's a bad look is like, right. Right. All you really have on social media is your

01:26:29.680 reputation. Um, and, and people will either like come along with you or they will abandon you based

01:26:36.360 off of whether or not you succeed in these little internecine battles between Douglas Murray and Dave

01:26:41.820 Smith versus Austin or whatever. It's like, it's, it's all gay, but at the same time, like that's the

01:26:48.240 world I'm in. And it's, I don't know my favorite listeners are the ones who genuinely can't stand me,

01:26:53.520 but no, I'm hilarious. Right. Like, cause Dave, it's not about I'm with you. I was standing with

01:26:59.500 you. Oh, I, I was with you until I don't want you with me. You know, I'm it's like, it's like,

01:27:05.720 you know, I'm funny and interesting or not. And the people that are like, man, I, you say some bad

01:27:11.200 shit, crazy shit, man, but there's no funnier. I'm like, that's my guy. Like, I'm like a mechanic.

01:27:16.020 I fix your car. You don't need to fucking like me. You know? Exactly. Well, that's the key is that

01:27:20.840 as long as, as long as you're doing this, even with what I do with the political commentating,

01:27:25.640 as long as you are crafting your messaging to your audience, then they are only, they will only be

01:27:31.460 with you as long as you continue to say everything they agree with. So you don't want to, you don't

01:27:36.760 want to cultivate that environment. You want to cultivate, cultivate an environment in which

01:27:40.820 everybody that's, that's checking your shit out is like, I'm doing it because I like the way this

01:27:44.960 dude's mind works. It doesn't mean that we're always going to agree. I just want it to be compelling.

01:27:49.340 Yeah. It's like, I want to know what's going on in the world. And I want to be able to somewhat

01:27:53.400 trust the person saying it. It's not about like regurgitating what makes you feel good. That's

01:27:58.560 narcissism. And that's literally like the empty suit of armor that demons jump into, you know?

01:28:04.460 A year ago, Clint goes, he says, uh, you know, top, I don't understand what you're doing. You spent the

01:28:08.480 last six months fomenting and just gathering an army of white nationalists. And then immediately once I go,

01:28:15.060 this is enough, I just decided this is enough one day. And I said, I just fucked up. I just

01:28:19.180 like did what I, what I thought would aggravate them. And I was correct. And then they all turned

01:28:23.260 on me and it was like half of them gone. But I was like, but the ones that stayed, those are,

01:28:27.780 these are my people. Those are the ones you want to keep. They're the ones that buy.

01:28:32.020 They're the ones that show up. They come to Brohemian Grove, which can we, I mean,

01:28:35.620 we're coming at up to time. Can we fucking talk about it? I gotta do my stream soon. Let's talk

01:28:38.960 about Brohemian. He's got like two minutes till he's got to go. So, I mean, I guess what do you want

01:28:43.240 to do? You want to just tell people it's fucking, number one, I want to tell people that the tickets

01:28:46.880 are on sale. They're no longer on Patreon. You go to brogrove.com, pick up your tickets because

01:28:50.520 they're about to leave. As soon as Owen gets on his stream and starts talking about what he's doing

01:28:55.660 and that tickets are available, they're going to be gone. So you guys got about 10 minutes.

01:28:59.420 This is a one, a one of a kind show. I'm just going to leave this here. Uh, look at that.

01:29:04.320 Owen Benjamin, Sam Tripoli. It's insane that, that anyone has agreed to even do this in this place,

01:29:10.500 but I am, I'm looking forward to it. And I think you're going to have a great time too,

01:29:14.220 Owen, because it's like, uh, this, I think the audience that is going to show up to this

01:29:19.180 is going to be ready. They get it. They're going to be ready to like hear what the comedians are

01:29:25.920 saying. So like, it'll, I think it'll turn whatever standup comedy is or whatever it's

01:29:32.020 been like, like, you know, like you're targeting an audience or you, you've done it with the people

01:29:35.740 in your, in your festival, like they're there, they get it. And it's like, now I could fucking say

01:29:40.180 the things that I want to say and I don't have to like preface, like just get right to the point.

01:29:44.660 I'm, I'm super excited. It's going to be awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My issue is always with the

01:29:49.260 bookers. It's like the, the people always get it. Like I could do like a bunch of Jews in New York

01:29:54.020 or a bunch of homos in San Fran and they're roller skating out with a smile on their face. You know,

01:29:58.480 for me, it was, it was the people running the events where the narcissist, they were like,

01:30:03.860 Oh no. And it was all about the trans shit and all that. It's like, yeah, I'm so pumped to do it.

01:30:10.020 I haven't done it like someone else's show in a long time. And it just sounds like a fun,

01:30:13.620 magical adventure. I'm hoping that what we can do is we can facilitate good comedy. You know what I

01:30:19.740 mean? So if we're facilitating it, we don't care what the comedian says. We just want the comedian

01:30:24.540 to be funny. And so I'm hoping that that turns into something real. Yeah. And I'm now like cleaner

01:30:28.460 than half of Twitter. So it's like, I don't even, that that's what I mean about not being predictable.

01:30:32.620 It's like, I'm not even like that shocking. I just won't go with what the demon wants at the

01:30:38.780 time, you know, which is unacceptable. Yeah. Well, this is, uh, going to be a bit of a,

01:30:43.600 a peacemaking mission. Uh, Owen Benjamin and Sam Tripoli have beefed for a while, but they have,

01:30:48.200 they have made amends and they are doing this event. I know, I know Owen, you never, uh, hardly

01:30:52.640 ever leave the compound and go and do shit. So this is thrilling for us. We cannot wait. And, uh,

01:30:58.080 and top is right. This is no bullshit. These are going to sell out. So if you guys are interested,

01:31:02.100 grab them now, the way, uh, the way this is going to go, um, Friday is going to be the

01:31:06.100 conspiracy day. So, uh, we'll have, uh, Shane Cashman is going to do his show. I think he's

01:31:11.380 going to interview somebody about like experience. It'll be like very, it's conspiracy kind of what

01:31:16.200 we, we touched on with the idea of disassociation, stuff like that. Um, Nephilim desk, I will go,

01:31:21.760 there's a conspiracy round table and all of your favorite creators from the Florida Illuminati

01:31:25.840 are going to be, they're going to talk shit. Sam Tripoli headlines that night with standup

01:31:29.260 comedy. It's going to be a great night. The next night we actually like, it's coming together.

01:31:34.240 This is like full blown comedy. We have, uh, I think we have Elijah Schaefer. He wants to do his

01:31:39.960 show. He just like called us. He was like, yo, I want to do a show. Can I do it? We're like, yes.

01:31:44.640 There was another guest that wants to do a show. Uh, I guess we'll see. It's, it's up in the air.

01:31:50.440 Leave it, leave a little bit of mystery. We'll leave, we'll leave mystery for that. Uh,

01:31:53.660 tower gang. We'll do a show. And then Owen Benjamin himself right there is going to be

01:31:58.340 capping off the night with some standup comedy. And, uh, and then the town is ours both nights.

01:32:03.840 It's going to be bonkers. I'm going last after like eight people. Do you want to do that? It's

01:32:09.380 up to you. You can go, you can open if you want to, but you are. I'm down. I'm down. I just want

01:32:15.080 to make sure that everyone isn't shit based when I go up. If we bring a keyboard, would you play a

01:32:19.620 keyboard? Fuck. Yeah. I'd even buy a keyboard and then give it to someone with autism or some

01:32:26.520 shit. Oh, nice. So I already have it on the road all the time. I'd like, cause I didn't like

01:32:31.360 traveling with a keyboard. So I'd always buy one and then give it to someone with a kid

01:32:35.020 and be like, get them to play. I have a curse while over here for you. I'll just take the

01:32:40.620 stickers off. Cause I'm teaching my kids. Like, you know, the notes of me, dude, you shouldn't take

01:32:44.500 my piano lessons. Oh, and I know you got to get to your screen. Owen Benjamin.com. We're not a play

01:32:49.280 of the piano with esoteric family-friendly piano lessons. Perfect. Perfect. Owen, we're

01:32:55.120 going to let you go, man. Cause I know you got to go to your stream, but, uh, appreciate

01:32:57.780 you coming on, dude. All right. Thanks for having me. Oh, and before you go, where can people

01:33:01.280 watch if they want to stop watching this and go watch you? Uh, I am at rumble. If you go

01:33:06.360 on rumble, just type in Owen Benjamin, one word. I'm also, we have unauthorized.tv, but you

01:33:11.000 can't currently subscribe because we're, we're in the process of switching servers again, but

01:33:16.640 I'm also on a odyssey and D live and whatnot. So, uh, and on Twitter at Owen Benjamin on

01:33:21.920 Twitter. Are you still, you're not with censored anymore? You were doing. Oh yeah. Censored.

01:33:25.480 Yeah. Yeah. No, I, I still go up on censored. I like, I like those guys. It's just every

01:33:29.800 time I, I do one of their shows, you know, it's just like a huge fight about the moon landing

01:33:35.240 or some shit. So I always forget. Oh man. Thank you for spending time with us. Uh, looking forward

01:33:43.360 to seeing you in a couple of weeks, it's going to be a fucking blast, dude. So I love

01:33:47.780 it. Thanks for having me, guys. Absolutely. Later, man. Bye. Uh, before we get out of

01:33:52.600 here, I want to, I want to challenge you guys on how organic, like what mixture of this

01:33:58.440 is organic versus what is contrived? What is op? It's all fake. Well, I know you, you normally

01:34:04.180 lean that direction, but I think you guys also, uh, are very much on the pulse of the backlash

01:34:10.240 to kind of critical theory that oppressed white people. And now the white people are

01:34:14.480 fucking fighting back. And this whole like identitarian shit that's rising is, am I crazy

01:34:19.760 to think that this is kind of the mirror image of the George Floyd summer of 2020?

01:34:26.000 So Owen said something interesting, uh, when we were talking to him, he said, I forgot what

01:34:30.140 we were talking about, but he's like, I, sometimes I think about the spiritual realm because I don't

01:34:33.640 think people could orchestrate this. Right. And so I don't know that this system has the ability

01:34:39.240 to orchestrate, uh, virality, at least not the genuine moment, but what they do have is

01:34:45.440 the ability to manipulate algorithms and promote materials that would be, um, because you imagine

01:34:50.860 at any given time, there are millions of pieces of viral content. It's just whether or not the

01:34:54.980 algorithm funnels them to your, uh, your site. And so, uh, I think it's a, it's, it's kind

01:35:01.580 of that situation where I wouldn't be surprised if these things take place, you know, now and

01:35:07.080 again, maybe more often than we'd like to imagine, but this mixture of like right off

01:35:11.620 the back of the Carmelo Anthony thing. And then this Somalian guy, this white woman and

01:35:16.400 the, and the white woman is like, you know, kind of pretty, like she's not bad looking.

01:35:20.080 So, so even that box is tick. Like she's, she's got a, a likability about her. If she

01:35:25.020 was a morbidly obese white woman, this would not have worked. Right. But she has this air

01:35:29.460 of likability about her. She's also based in that way. So that's cool. I think a real event

01:35:34.760 took place and, and this algorithm is looking for this opportunity to stoke, you know, these

01:35:41.040 racial wars. The only thing that's a question in my mind is, is this, if it bleeds, it leads

01:35:45.060 and therefore the algorithm knows that it gets clicks or are we being funneled down this path

01:35:50.200 of fucking race war? I think, I think it's, it's a real event that happened for real, but

01:35:57.080 the reason I'm not, I'm not arguing it's AI or anything. I'm just saying the moment, is

01:36:01.360 it, is it contrived or not? Like the, the overall reaction, the fucking fundraising drives,

01:36:06.460 everything else.

01:36:07.200 I think that, that some of that's contrived some, so it's like the, uh, the moment of,

01:36:11.440 uh, I bring her up all the time. What's her name? Uh, fuck you. The, the girl with the

01:36:15.940 short hair, short blonde hair. Uh, Oh, Eliza, Eliza blue. Yeah. Right. She had the same

01:36:22.380 moment and she got caught with this thing where she's like, Oh, she's lying. She's, uh, uh,

01:36:27.260 you know, she's attacking pedophilia, but she's doing this. And, and it's like, none of that was

01:36:31.620 important. What was important was they fomented a movement against her. It was an operation.

01:36:37.400 Yeah. A hundred percent. But it was a small one. And it was like, what the fuck? This made no sense.

01:36:41.060 It was like, sort of within still doesn't make sense. No, but well, if you think about it, it's

01:36:44.800 like, if I wanted to know how people would react to this, I would do exactly this. And this is what

01:36:51.760 they did by David's fucking out. This is a much better shot anyway. Um, if I wanted to know how

01:36:56.840 people were going to react to a certain situation, like how many bots do I need to sprinkle it to a

01:37:03.380 conversation before it becomes real, because it did become real. Yep. There was real people that

01:37:08.020 got caught up with it. And then the bots get taken out and the real people are left holding the bag.

01:37:11.800 Like, what the fuck was this? Something similar happened here. They figured out a formula and

01:37:16.700 they're like, when XYZ event happens, we can pull this string. And I don't know if they pull the

01:37:22.300 string on this one to see, uh, to create another riot. I think they did it to gauge

01:37:27.920 the temperature. Yeah. Well, that's the thing is like, I think people sleep on, they go like,

01:37:32.760 Oh, well, what's the, what's the game plan here? It's like, well, you just have to continue

01:37:37.320 to turn the gas up ever so slightly. Just like a couple, a couple extra degrees. Like

01:37:42.920 we've been simmering ever since 2020, as far as I'm concerned. Um, some people would say

01:37:48.020 we've been simmering for decades, but I feel like we've been simmering for real since towns

01:37:52.660 were burnt down in mass in the summer of 2020. And I think that that was an op. I think that that

01:37:58.040 the, the way they only took the, the one angle, they didn't give you the lead up where he's like

01:38:04.060 asking to be pulled out of the police cruiser and he's being asked to be laid on the ground.

01:38:07.600 Like, had you seen any of the extra footage, then you don't get this apex of, of animosity

01:38:14.240 and willingness to go light shit on fire. But if you just truncate the information that

01:38:19.800 the masses are receiving to the most provocative seven or eight minutes from the most provocative

01:38:26.000 angle available, well, then you have a, you have your secret recipe for chaos. And it's

01:38:30.820 like that, that moment and all of the response to that, and then the disparate treatment of

01:38:36.040 everybody that was responsible for those riots. And then you juxtapose that with the J sixers

01:38:41.260 who are abused savagely. And then you have this juxtaposition of woman says a bad word,

01:38:48.400 despite the fact that the kid allegedly robbed her. And it's like, this is not a really a

01:38:52.660 big deal. Whereas on the inverse, you get a half a million defense fund for this Carmelo

01:38:56.460 Anthony kid who appears to have brutally murdered the other kid. And it's like, yeah. And it's

01:39:02.600 just the disparate reaction, disparate treatment. And it's just like, it's just constantly fucking

01:39:06.800 cranking that, that stove top a little bit more.

01:39:09.400 Yeah. I feel like that was that. So the Carmelo Anthony thing was like, it's a, there's like

01:39:17.680 an organic, it's part organic and then part contrived where they're like, they're turning

01:39:20.920 it up a little bit like that, that go fund me or whatever we had. I'm like, maybe some

01:39:25.080 people donated, but black people usually don't support other black people. They don't even

01:39:28.480 something happened to put together over a half a million dollars. Like something else.

01:39:33.800 I feel, I feel like that's, that's someone fucking stoking the fire. They won't even support

01:39:39.200 each other in, in their like local businesses, but they'll, they'll support this. It's like

01:39:43.780 maybe some light skinned ones hate the dark skinned ones. Yeah. But so a lot of this is

01:39:49.000 like, I don't think it's black people donating. I think it's fucking, it's either, it's either

01:39:52.220 intelligence agencies or it's fucking, well, we've, we've made an entire episode without

01:39:56.220 talking about them. So I'm not going to do it. It's Jewish people. Well, you know what?

01:39:58.780 But the Jewish people are donating, they're donating to this other side as well, to this

01:40:02.940 lady and her name is Shiloh. So there is like this weird Jewish involvement as well. So

01:40:07.300 it's like something, something for the record, for the record, I didn't mean like the Jews

01:40:11.800 as in like Mossad or some shit. I meant like Jewish liberals. Like they're, they're the ones

01:40:16.600 that I would see donating to, uh, to that cause because they're like the ones that are like,

01:40:22.200 uh, you know, critical like reparations and, and very soft on crime policies, like all the

01:40:27.660 shit that George Soros pushes. Somebody brought up a, I think it was Owen that, that had a

01:40:31.540 great, um, take on it where he was like, these are the same people that are previously telling

01:40:36.520 you that a boy can be a girl and a girl can be a boy. Now we're saying a little boy can't

01:40:40.480 be a nigger. And that's crazy. What a leaf. I didn't say that. Owen Benjamin said that,

01:40:44.700 um, uh, the whole thing does feel, that's a very funny line, but come on. Are we, you look,

01:40:50.540 if you're, of course, no, of course you're not, if you're old enough, if you're old enough

01:40:53.840 to commit like a violent crime, I, okay, maybe, maybe you can use that label. We're

01:40:58.660 talking about a fucking six or seven year old that, that robs a lady's purse. So we

01:41:02.060 really, I just, I makes me uncomfortable. I don't know. I mean, it's not a great thing.

01:41:05.780 I don't like a person. Like I wouldn't hang out with a person that, that said that at a

01:41:08.780 playground to a child. Um, if I saw that happen at a playground, I would go, I, you know,

01:41:14.400 I would watch that lady and be like, is she going to take this further than just calling

01:41:16.920 him a nigger? And then when we left, I'd turn to my wife and I'd be like, that shit was

01:41:20.900 fucking funny. She called him a nigger. Did you see that shit? So, I mean, uh, you

01:41:25.520 know, I'm not saying she's a good person at all. And I'm not saying that she is deserving

01:41:29.280 of all this money. Um, she's going to, she's going to rack, she's going to rack more than

01:41:33.100 Carmelo. Oh yeah. The more money she gets, the more funny I find this entire situation.

01:41:37.900 Uh, but it does feel like 90% of this was orchestrated because they've been orchestrating

01:41:42.540 this for a really long time, this like race war thing, because, you know, uh, even before

01:41:47.380 Twitter was taken over by Elon and all of a sudden, you know, the pendulum started to swing

01:41:52.980 to the right and, and we have a voice, uh, these were the stories that legacy media led

01:41:58.380 with for the past decade, you know, ever since the Obama administration, probably even before

01:42:01.800 that there's been a long effort to highlight, you know, the black community and all the things

01:42:06.780 that are wrong about, or, or all the things that are happening to the black community.

01:42:10.900 Once the black people are adequately outraged, once they believe that there's a system pitted

01:42:15.800 against them, once they believe that the white man is definitively, uh, to blame for everything

01:42:21.160 that ails the planet, because we are the conquerors. We are this and that now you can shift to the

01:42:26.300 white people and you can start chipping away at that highlighting that a little bit. Look,

01:42:29.820 isn't it unfair? They beat you up in the streets and you can't even say the N word or isn't it

01:42:33.920 unfair? They stabbed this kid in the chest, you know? And there's been this big build to what

01:42:37.840 I think is, I don't know, might be like right now where, uh, is it safe to say we're closer

01:42:44.460 than we were before? Yes, of course. Uh, this is what I'm saying is like, all right, you,

01:42:49.420 you, you cranked it up. It's now went from a simmer to a low boil. Then you just need one more.

01:42:54.280 You just need one more crank right before summertime, right? When the heat kicks, right?

01:42:58.960 When it's 110 degrees in New York city and fucking Philly and everywhere else. And then you just have

01:43:03.420 police brutality pop off. I just want to remind people, cause everyone's going like that shit's

01:43:07.660 not going to happen. Fucking Trump's in power. He's got the, you know, FBI and all these people

01:43:11.860 are on his side last time. Yeah. This, this is the point I was going to make. It was the summer

01:43:15.880 of 2020. It was the fourth year of his presidency. Like sure. Maybe he's got a better handle on the

01:43:21.380 system and how it works now. Um, but I think, I think it is, it is primed to go fucking haywire

01:43:27.960 this summer. And there is nothing they want more than to have a populist right winger look as if he

01:43:32.380 can't govern, uh, safely. You're putting a monetary value. That is a number of like zero to 100 on how,

01:43:39.140 how primed are the people and her go fund me in my opinion is that number. If it, if it gets to 1

01:43:45.640 million, like they're like, we are 100% ready, sir. Like let's, let's deploy the next one. And the

01:43:50.420 guy's like, yes, yes. But this feels exactly the same as what, you know, uh, me and top have

01:43:55.860 certainly been saying this, that it feels like the JQ thing was, uh, hijacked and then steered into

01:44:01.820 overdrive. And to the extent where it like jumped past, um, the actual details of what's happening

01:44:08.380 and went straight into a place where there's no longer nuance allowed. And I think that was done

01:44:12.100 by design. This feels like very much the same thing. Look, as a, as a conspiracy theorist,

01:44:17.380 right? We, we've said this for a long time. What do they do? They pit us against each other,

01:44:22.580 whether it's racial lines, racial divides, um, religious divides, you know, political divides,

01:44:27.720 whatever it is, they're going to strengthen those boundaries as much as possible because the last

01:44:32.200 thing that the elites want, uh, is a, as a, uh, they don't want a strong, uh, uh, cultural fabric

01:44:38.880 in America. They don't want us to be united in any way. If you keep us fighting amongst each other.

01:44:43.460 Yeah. The more divided, the better. And I think this is why I was so early on that, the call that

01:44:49.260 they were trying to de-platform Dave Smith is because like exactly what you're describing just

01:44:53.260 a second ago, where they, they cranked it as hard as they could because they don't want that

01:44:57.880 discussion about nuance. They don't want the middle road where it's just like, I don't really

01:45:02.200 give a shit what happens to Gaza, but I don't want to be funding it because if we have that argument,

01:45:07.340 that's a really compelling argument to be made to the vast majority of Americans. If you, if you

01:45:13.000 crank it to, well, let's fucking build gas chambers. Well, then no one's going to have that discussion

01:45:18.520 as to like, yes, let's just not be participating in this. This is madness. Let's not go to war with

01:45:23.560 Iran. Let's not do this. Let's not do that. So Dave, despite Owen's critiques of him, Dave presents

01:45:29.480 a really challenging paradigm where he is a Jewish guy being very critical of Israel. I think that's

01:45:35.400 a powerful position to be in despite the fact that Nick Fuentes despises it. It's like, he's taken

01:45:39.720 more seriously. He's taken seriously in a way that Nick Fuentes will never, ever, ever be. And that's

01:45:43.800 just reality. But then the conversation also stops right there. And that's a tragedy because we need

01:45:50.060 to talk about, but that's not his job though. You can take it further. He's just a comedian.

01:45:55.180 Owen could, no, that's not what I'm saying. Why do you keep bringing that up? He's never even said

01:45:58.780 that before. It's like, so like he is, so Dave Smith is a Jewish guy that's making the argument for,

01:46:05.260 uh, the argument against Israeli crimes, but we will never get to the conversation

01:46:11.340 of, of Jewish influence in, in media establishment, blah, blah, blah. Even bigger,

01:46:15.900 even crazier than that. Like the, the religion of Judaism is that, well, at least the Talmudic

01:46:22.620 Judaism, is that compatible with America where America's found were based on the constitution,

01:46:28.300 which was based on Christianity. That's fine. But I'm just saying, I mean, to expect Dave,

01:46:32.940 who's an American and a Jew to say, oh, I'm not, I am not compatible to be an American is like,

01:46:39.180 it's an absurdity. He would never feel that way and nor should he. So if you want to take it to that

01:46:42.860 level, then, then do it on your own. Well, it's, are you like, the question is then,

01:46:46.780 are you a practicing Talmudic, Talmudic Jew? Yeah, I'm sure he's not. That's the question.

01:46:51.100 And also then what is a Jew? Like, we can't even have that conversation. Cause it's like,

01:46:54.700 it's a cultural thing. It's an, it's an ethnic thing. It's a economic thing. It's somebody like,

01:46:58.860 what is the same thing has happened now in this conversation where like people look,

01:47:04.540 Clint asked me before, we're talking about it before. It's like, do I really, am I a fan of that

01:47:07.820 kind of behavior? Are you going to do that to a child? Like, no, I like, despite how egregious I may seem,

01:47:12.380 if I'm at the park and a little black girl walks by me, I'm going to have a smile on my face. You

01:47:16.220 know what I mean? Just because I come on the show and I say this or that, uh, doesn't mean that I

01:47:19.660 actually have hatred in my heart for people, but we've gotten past that. We are now in the no nuance

01:47:24.380 zone instead of going, is this lady technically deserving of some sort of a go fund me? Uh,

01:47:30.700 and maybe there's an argument to be made cause she has been doxed and that becomes kind of

01:47:33.820 complicated. So, you know, the damage is levied her way. Should there be some sort of, you know, uh,

01:47:38.140 uh, money to, you know, repair that that's a conversation we had, but most people are beyond

01:47:43.820 that. And they go here, here's $20. Here's $50. I don't give a fuck. That's how bad this is now.

01:47:48.380 Fuck the nuance. Fuck the conversation. Here's my money. When people start putting their money in

01:47:53.420 shit. And I said this earlier, uh, on Nephilim death squad, I think it was like, we thought we

01:47:58.060 did a thing where we stopped paying for Bud Light. Right. And that was a boycott. And that was a big deal.

01:48:03.340 And we put our money where our mouths are and that's how you get shit done. You know, that's

01:48:06.540 what they say in this country, at least it's stop funding these things, start putting your money

01:48:10.380 elsewhere. Well, people did even more than not contribute to Bud Light or something. They paid

01:48:16.940 their own hard earned money to this woman. I think the other thing that the other angle

01:48:20.300 of this that people are sleeping on, which I'm sure both of you have already noted yourselves,

01:48:23.500 but no one's actually vocalized it is that this is a safe way to voice your protest. It's an

01:48:28.860 anonymous way to say, I don't like what's happening. Yeah. I get to ship a hundred bucks

01:48:33.420 to this fucking racist bitch because fuck this racist shit. Like that's, that's basically what

01:48:37.980 they're saying. Yeah. So like, this is why, you know, despite the fact that I do think that it's

01:48:41.980 a psyop to a certain degree. And then I do think that it's being amplified for nefarious purposes.

01:48:46.300 I think the, the underlying revenue for much of this is genuine and the energy for much of it is

01:48:51.820 genuine. So like, but if I, if I have, again, I have that nuanced approach. That's exactly what that dude,

01:48:57.820 uh, told me, go back to Austrian economics. You sound like a schizophrenic. That's what he,

01:49:02.300 that's what he was replying to was me, me pointing this out that like, I think the George Floyd summer

01:49:06.380 of love was a psyop. And I think that this is to a certain degree too. And it's like, that is just,

01:49:10.540 that's the, like, you have to be able to approach this shit with a level of nuance. If you think

01:49:15.580 it's all organic, you're a lunatic. If you think everything's a psyop, you're a lunatic. There is a

01:49:20.700 middle ground here, but if you allow the fucking lunatics to control the narrative, well, then we don't get to

01:49:26.220 have that serious conversation. We don't get to have the conversation that you're talking about

01:49:28.940 either. If you just have like the hardline Nazi goose-stepping psychopaths in the street that are

01:49:34.140 talking all that shit, if they were to control the messaging, well, then you don't get to have

01:49:37.900 the conversation that you're talking about either. So like, maybe, maybe Dave doesn't take it too far,

01:49:42.460 but the real danger is the people that take it too far, in my opinion. Now, again, I don't want to

01:49:46.700 sound like Douglas Murray and I'm fucking gatekeeping. Say what the fuck you want. I don't give a

01:49:50.060 shit. I'm just saying I am trying to keep myself in the lane of like, like what is productive and

01:49:56.620 what is actually grappling with the totality of what we're looking at. And that's like,

01:50:00.220 this is the, that's the disservice. And it's not necessarily Dave. It's not Dave's fault because

01:50:04.140 it's not his battle to fight. But I think that the James Lindsay types want to keep that discussion

01:50:09.100 there because once we, once we start talking about like, they want to take it further away from

01:50:13.980 where like Dave is taking it too far for their comfort. But they're using the justification of like,

01:50:17.660 oh, these guys are downplaying World War II and the Holocaust and they're anti-Semitic.

01:50:21.500 It's like, well, let's talk about what this book actually says that you study in yeshiva,

01:50:26.220 the things that you guys walk around and you actually believe. Why does it say these things?

01:50:30.940 And if you believe it, are you compatible with everybody else walking around here? Are we aimed

01:50:36.540 at the same thing? We want to have a functioning, we can never talk about that because the conversation

01:50:41.020 is stuck at Hitler. It's stuck at, you know, and, and Dave, obviously Dave is, is right,

01:50:45.900 but the conversation will, will get, that's a great, uh, cut, like, you know, turning off point

01:50:50.940 for people that don't really want to, the people say, I wish you would just talk about Austrian

01:50:54.700 economics. The idea of like, can we at least not pay for this genocide is like, great. That's a lot,

01:51:00.540 a very comfortable place to like stop for a lot of people. And, and it's great that people are there,

01:51:04.700 but like the bigger conversation is like, this is all happening over and over again. And I think it's

01:51:09.420 because it's like, there is a group of people that are not compatible with what, what I believe,

01:51:14.780 like what, what America is believing. And we can't have that conversation.

01:51:19.340 To your point, Top, if, if that is where this conversation ultimately leads, then you might

01:51:24.380 imagine that there are people who don't want that conversation to be had. It's a tricky thing to stop

01:51:28.700 speech. How do you do that? There's a couple of different ways, right? You could impose legislation

01:51:33.820 that stops speech, but that probably won't go ever over too well. I think a lot of the public would

01:51:37.900 get pretty reactive about that. But if you can push the conversation constantly, like every time it

01:51:44.140 starts to happen, push it into the extremes so that you're only dealing with the most extreme cases,

01:51:50.540 a young man stabbing another young man in the heart at a fucking track meet, you know what I mean?

01:51:55.020 Or this Somalian migrant doing this thing or that thing. It's like, if you can keep the conversation

01:52:00.220 away from the middle and only in the extremes, then it will simply never be had. And I, and so,

01:52:05.580 if there are people who are trying to avoid that topic, Top, that conversation, um, you know,

01:52:11.500 this is one of the things that they might do because I'm, I, the alternative is legislation

01:52:15.420 and that doesn't work. Well, yeah. And I think this is exactly why they're trying to get rid of

01:52:20.380 Dave is because he, he is, he's, you know, safe, dangerous, as you guys have talked about sometimes.

01:52:27.180 Um, and, and like, he's too safe for them to actually cancel him. So they're, they're trying

01:52:33.260 to straw man and take out a context and do all sorts of deception to try and basically make him

01:52:40.460 persona non grata and get him at least off of Joe Rogan. Like if they could just do that,

01:52:44.620 that would be a huge victory for them. And I think it's, it's ultimately going to backfire.

01:52:48.380 And it's, and I, I know this cause I I'm friends with Dave and I know that he's talking to Rogan

01:52:51.900 about it privately, but it's like, it's just, to me, it's so obvious that when you pair that,

01:52:57.660 then, then you also have all of this, all of this anger towards what Israel's doing.

01:53:01.900 And then all of a sudden it's like, oh, the American people are now black versus white.

01:53:05.900 It's like, oh, interesting timing on that one. Huh? Like we're all seriously considering like,

01:53:10.700 hey, like even Trump's like core base is going, dude, fuck going to war with Iran. We know what this

01:53:17.580 is about. We know who we're fighting this war for. And then it's like, oh, Shiloh comes up

01:53:22.940 and here comes Carmelo. And let's all fucking just forget about the billions of dollars that

01:53:27.580 we're shipping to this country. And the fact that we have major carrier strike groups are

01:53:31.900 sitting off the fucking coast that could strike Iran at any time. The fact that we were like

01:53:35.580 inches away from doing a major bombing campaign to take out the nuclear facilities in Iran just

01:53:40.140 10 days ago. I was like, none of that's on the radar anymore. It's all about Shiloh versus

01:53:44.860 Somalian versus the black autistic kid. And, you know, I'm just, you know,

01:53:48.700 what's funny though. I'm sick of it, man. I'll play along.

01:53:50.940 That Somalian thought that America was racist. Right. And that is the genuine perception of not

01:53:57.980 only blacks in America, but also other countries around the world, because you see us fighting

01:54:02.940 on the world stage, you know, internet fucking forums you have access to as well. And I was just

01:54:07.820 watching a video is hilarious, morbidly obese, black woman, you know, doing a selfie camera video.

01:54:13.020 And she's like, I used to live in America, but I just couldn't get down with all that racist

01:54:17.740 shit. Right. So I decided to move to Ghana and I'm not going to lie. I think I like America's

01:54:24.700 problems better. Ghana got different problems. They have fucking security problems. They have

01:54:30.540 electricity problems. The grid goes down constantly. They have scam problems. They have

01:54:35.820 thieving problems. They have like, she's just going down this list, basically telling you,

01:54:40.540 oh, shit, I fell for the propaganda to the extent that I uprooted my life,

01:54:44.860 went to a foreign country and realized that it fucking sucks and that America actually is dope and

01:54:50.220 isn't racist. I mean, it's becoming racist because you won't stop fucking telling us that we are.

01:54:54.380 But I just watched this woman go to Ghana and get her electricity turned off. And when she went

01:54:58.700 outside, they don't even see fat people in Ghana. Right. So this lady goes outside. They think she's

01:55:04.220 fucking rich and they start trying to rob her constantly. They're constantly trying to scam

01:55:08.380 her, but America's racist and you have to flee. Right. So it's just funny how that actually did

01:55:13.420 become the perception. She gets what she deserves. She was living in delusion and now she found out

01:55:17.500 what reality is and that's fine. That's it. And I think, but see, this is the mistake that I think

01:55:20.940 a lot of people are making. Cause you know, granted, like these are all anonymous accounts that are

01:55:24.380 replying to me and I'm sure half of them are bots. I don't even know what, what percentage is real,

01:55:28.380 but regardless, I'm getting like mad crazy replies where people are saying, oh, we've been in a race

01:55:34.140 war for fucking decades. Only black people have been fighting and white people haven't. Oh, we've

01:55:37.980 been white people been getting genocided for fucking decades. You faggot, you pussy. And like,

01:55:41.980 that's how they're talking to me. And like, I'm a race traitor or some shit. I'm like, um,

01:55:46.940 I don't know what the fuck world you're living in, but like, yeah, sure. There's black people that kill

01:55:50.940 white people happens every year. Of course. Um, I bet you, if you look at it statistically,

01:55:55.100 it hasn't changed dramatically. I bet it's been consistently like this for a very long time.

01:55:59.820 And guess what? It's nowhere approaching a genocide. Is it a problem? Sure. It's a problem.

01:56:05.060 We don't have to lie about it, but you also don't have to lie about it on the inverse where it's like,

01:56:08.780 I literally can't live in this country anymore. These black people are going to kill us all.

01:56:13.140 It's insane. Can I say something crazy? There's just no, there's no fucking middle ground.

01:56:16.180 All right. I think black people are less dangerous than they used to be.

01:56:21.100 Um, and the reason that I say that is because I know places where my family live, um, where I can

01:56:28.740 go and visit and I'll walk around, I'll go to the corner store. Uh, I, I won't feel incredibly

01:56:33.680 threatened, but I remember it was different when I was a kid, when I was a little kid, it was like,

01:56:37.540 you cannot go the fuck out there. They will beat you up. They will take your shit. I've gotten my

01:56:41.680 ass beat. I've watched my family and friends get their ass beat. I don't think it happens as much.

01:56:46.500 I've been joking around. I said, these aren't the blacks of old because the new blacks,

01:56:49.340 they're kind of like, uh, it's interesting. They've developed a love for emo music and

01:56:53.300 they're kind of going like goth black, like black people have changed. They're all sucking

01:56:57.240 their cousin's dick. They're all sucking their cousin's dick. I, I do think that, uh, I would

01:57:03.660 have a better chance walking around in a black neighborhood now than I would have had in the

01:57:09.220 nineties. Yeah, I agree with it. It's like, it just spends, it depends on the neighborhood.

01:57:15.220 I mean, there's, there's certain areas in Chicago that you like, you really wouldn't want to

01:57:18.140 No, no, no. Obviously I'm not talking about Chicago. I'm talking about like,

01:57:20.500 I lived in, in Elizabeth, New Jersey, you know, uh, uh, I would, there are parts of Newark

01:57:25.520 that I think, you know why I think that because I've watched places get gentrified and I've

01:57:30.720 watched, uh, uh, thin homosexual men open up coffee shops in all black neighborhoods and

01:57:35.720 not get anally raped. But I know that those same, uh, homosexual skinny men would have gotten

01:57:41.720 anally raped back in the nineties. I do think that's true. I think in the eighties and nineties,

01:57:45.300 it was really fucking rough. It was a different type of person.

01:57:48.660 I'll confirm it for you because you know, when I was a kid in the nineties, um, I went

01:57:53.960 out to Compton and Watson shit and it was like, this is fucking dangerous, dude. And then

01:57:58.780 I went out there to foreclose on people's houses and it like, it was still dangerous, but it

01:58:03.640 was less dangerous for me to be going door to door, like saying, like, we're evicting

01:58:07.520 you. Um, than it, than it was when I was a kid in the nineties, you know? So like it's

01:58:11.860 obviously improved. And I think it's improved even more since then, because now you got

01:58:14.920 these fucking like the gentrification and because the internal parts of LA, but it got

01:58:19.220 so expensive, it started to push out the more like impoverished black people. Um, but, but

01:58:23.500 regardless, like, this is why I don't, I don't like the framing. And I just feel like the

01:58:26.980 internet feeds the framing that like, this is, it's never been worse. We've never been

01:58:31.480 more angry at each other. And I just don't buy any of that. Like if the only reason that

01:58:35.500 we are more angry at each other is because we're seeing this shit as being shoved in our

01:58:38.640 fucking face. Like I have never seen more interracial like violence than I have over

01:58:44.780 the past year, but it's statistically not, it's not like reflective of an uptick. It's

01:58:50.580 just that like the algos on X in particular have recognized that like this shit gets shared

01:58:55.220 a lot. This shit gets commented on a lot. And it's like, so now my feed, despite the fact

01:58:59.300 that I don't, I hardly ever comment or reply or share any of that shit. I am bombarded with

01:59:04.440 a white kid getting beat up by a black caretaker on a bus just this morning. I saw that and

01:59:09.900 I fucking see, you know, this other high school white kid getting stabbed in the fucking heart.

01:59:13.940 And it's just, it's just nonstop, man. I just, I really think it's unhealthy.

01:59:17.920 I think it's a, it's a half and half. I think it's, um, it is definitely not worse than it's

01:59:24.120 ever been. It's not that it's not real. It's just that it's overstated. That's all I'm saying.

01:59:28.160 But I do think that we probably have never been madder at each other. I think that's probably

01:59:32.520 true. I don't know if it's not overstated. Um, I think that this is, it's, it's overstated

01:59:37.940 when someone says that we're, we're being genocide. Get the fuck out of here. I'm not

01:59:41.240 being white people are not being genocided, but, but I think that not talking about this

01:59:46.700 for so long, it is. Yeah. I agree. I agree. I agree. Like this is, but this is the problem

01:59:51.840 with this. It's not the problem with colorblind liberalism. It's the problem with only applying

01:59:57.700 colorblind liberalism to white people. If everybody was, was for not forced, but like

02:00:04.860 basically shamed into feeling that way and, and behaving that way, then that shit might

02:00:10.220 work. But we just stopped doing that for anyone other than white people for decades. And now

02:00:16.200 you have genuine animosity that exists amongst black people, not, not all obviously, but a

02:00:21.980 decent chunk towards white people. And they've gotten more and more brazen and loud about it.

02:00:26.900 How like y'all are the problem. They're just pointing at us all the time. And now white

02:00:30.620 people are going like, dude, I didn't have any anger towards you at all. What the fuck

02:00:34.360 is this? And now suddenly the anger is being kicked up genuinely on that side too. But it's,

02:00:39.500 it's, it's a long time coming, but I'm just, I'm just arguing that I think it's, yes, you're

02:00:44.160 right. We should have been talking about this in the nineties. We should have been talking

02:00:46.560 about the eighties. We should have been talking about the whole time. We should have been

02:00:48.960 like, yo, yeah, if we're doing this multicultural shit, we're going to have to be treated

02:00:53.420 like equals for real, for real. You don't get special treatment because of slavery.

02:00:56.760 All right. We're not doing any of that, but they didn't do it.

02:01:00.040 Yeah. So if you talk about it, it lets off the pressure and maybe even like addresses

02:01:05.640 the problem a little bit more. But right now you have black people are mad at white people.

02:01:12.740 I, let's just say a number $500,000 and white people are mad at black people, 200. And last

02:01:18.500 time I checked, like $86,000.

02:01:20.200 Bro, I bet it's, I bet it's 400 by now.

02:01:22.040 Probably. But like, do you see that metric? That's like useful. It's useful for the Jews

02:01:26.040 that are orchestrating it. It's useful for me. Who's just looking at it. Cause like we're

02:01:31.640 some of it's fake, but some of it's real. And it's like, well, they're real to this dollar

02:01:35.640 amount. I feel like that's a very useful thing to see how, just how mad people are.

02:01:40.220 There was a time when it was better and it's when we were allowed to talk about it. And I

02:01:44.700 still maintain, I know I say this a lot, but Chappelle's show during its height, I think race

02:01:48.740 relations were better. I think that show made race relations.

02:01:50.740 Late nineties, early to mid two thousands. That was the, we were having a good time. We

02:01:53.960 were making fun of each other. We were making fun of ourselves, but something interesting

02:01:56.860 that's worth noting is, uh, the major way that the dynamic between white people and black

02:02:02.120 people has shifted is when I was growing up in the nineties and early two thousands and I was

02:02:06.660 getting beat up. I was afraid I didn't want to be white. I hated being white because I was shown

02:02:12.900 definitively that not only will I get my ass beat for being white, uh, but being white is you're

02:02:17.720 going to get your ass beat for it because it's uncool. White people are not cool. That was what

02:02:21.880 it used to be. They weren't hip. They didn't have rhythm. They couldn't do shit. They couldn't spice

02:02:25.480 their food, whatever, whatever, whatever. White people were uncool. I fixed all that with my

02:02:29.500 wiggerdom. Yes. Yeah. Now white people are fucking evil. They're conquerors. They are the thing

02:02:36.380 that ails the entire world. We went from being nerds to being, uh, you know, the oppressor.

02:02:41.620 Yeah. It's insane. You guys are fucking super cool. Too cool. Yeah, we are too cool. We are

02:02:45.860 very cool. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody in the chat said Raven's white. I was white enough to be fucking

02:02:50.420 called white by black people and Spanish people and Spanish enough to be disowned by the white

02:02:54.760 people. So it was a great time growing up. I really loved it. I would have disowned you for sure.

02:02:59.180 I'm the only real white motherfucker here. If I saw me, I would disown me.

02:03:04.400 Uh, all right, let's, let's fucking bring it in. We do have a, some, we have $1 super

02:03:09.060 chat from Andrew Jacobs. He said, uh, pussy is a gateway to Dick. Okay. Banger. Yeah.

02:03:15.700 What? Who said that Earl Skakel, Earl Skakel. You need him at the next Bohemian Grove. I

02:03:19.700 don't know who that is, Andrew, but that's, I think that's the only one that we got unless

02:03:23.220 there's another, uh, we only got one for the, that's crazy. Now somebody else was, was

02:03:28.980 asking, they were like, Hey, are you going to read our super chats? But I think the problem

02:03:31.860 is we're streaming to like seven different places and wild. Yeah. And just one stupid

02:03:36.140 chat, these fucking cheap bitches. We should, I'm genuinely surprised. Yeah, that's fine.

02:03:42.360 It's fine. Um, all right, let's, let's fucking wrap it up. Let's get out of here. I'm going

02:03:45.720 to do a read on, uh, Owen Benjamin's page. Before we get out of here, please, if you're

02:03:50.520 fucking watching right now, we got like a thousand people watching, click the subscribe

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02:03:58.800 also pick up your fucking phone and subscribe to the audio version of the show that actually

02:04:03.220 helps us with monetization. It helps us to grow the show and everything else. I just threw

02:04:07.240 down over $3,000 for the studio that we're putting together in my place. Uh, it's going

02:04:11.680 to be awesome. So whatever support you guys can lend us, I'd appreciate it. And, uh, yeah,

02:04:16.160 search dangerous. Bro grove.com guys, get over there, buy your tickets because Owen's probably

02:04:22.100 talking about it in his show right now. It's now open to the general public. It's no longer

02:04:26.240 to, uh, our Patrion. So these tickets are about to move really fast. If you didn't

02:04:29.740 get them before and you want to get them now, here is your chance. Go to bro grove.com

02:04:33.860 A reminder, ladies and gentlemen, we're talking about 225 tickets. This is going to be fucking

02:04:37.800 gone. Uh, there's already, there's way less than 225 tickets right now. No, no, I know

02:04:42.360 I'm saying total. I'm saying like, you got, you got to hit it now. Like there's, it's probably

02:04:46.300 half gone already. So I would go to bro grove.com or top lobster.com. It's all up there.

02:04:52.200 Go grab them because there's already people that are, uh, Oh, whatever. We just got another

02:04:56.340 $5 super chat from our home girl, Lainey. That's $10. That's $10. I'm blind. No, that's

02:05:02.080 Chaney. Yeah. Uh, Chaney. I love y'all. He said Lainey. Yeah, I know. I love y'all hit

02:05:08.300 the subscribe and like. Oh, thank you. Chaney's going to be there. Chaney's going to be at

02:05:12.280 bro grove and Chaney's also going to be on our show. Uh, Nephilim death squad very soon as

02:05:15.920 always a great conversation with her. Uh, and you guys will get to see her and where I get

02:05:19.200 my fashion, uh, inspiration from bro grove. Yes. Uh, yeah. Um, secret society of good

02:05:25.300 guys and project Chaney. Go check her out. She's on Twitter and Instagram. Someone says

02:05:29.320 read Scott super chat. Is there a Scott super chat? I don't see one. I wish there is. Scott

02:05:33.260 is. I love Scott. Yeah. Let me see Scott. Scott, did you send us a super chat Scott? Cause if

02:05:38.000 you did, I want to, I want to hear what you said. Scott says Scott's opinion is very important

02:05:42.840 to us. There's so many fucking like comments, but I don't see it. Uh, uh, wait, I'll read,

02:05:48.660 I'll read this one. Um, Cuber Timo, $1. Suck a nigga dick till your neck bus bitch. Okay.

02:05:53.920 Very thanks for the input. Damn. That was a banger of lines. Scott is here. Uh, rest in

02:06:00.320 peace TLC never to return. Very sad. No, that's not true. Uh, timeline cleanse will be back in

02:06:05.840 July. In July, everybody's favorite show will be back. Uh, in the beginning of July, timeline

02:06:10.560 cleanse will return. It's not coming back. It's not coming back. Um, I feel like I had something

02:06:16.040 else to say before Chaney rudely interrupted me. Unbelievable. With, with money, with money.

02:06:20.380 Yeah. Uh, money. What were we saying? I don't know. Jews, blacks. No, we were talking about

02:06:26.080 buying tickets. Oh, right. Oh yeah. Buying.com guys. Yes. Buy the tickets because that's what

02:06:32.080 I was saying. Um, there's a, there's a bunch of people in the Patreon who were like, Oh, I

02:06:35.600 was going to buy, uh, the VIP tickets, but I figured I just wait a little, they're gone.

02:06:39.500 VIP is gone. VIP tickets are gone. I'm going to actually go, when we go there tomorrow,

02:06:43.320 I'm going to see if we could do something else for life. Yeah. We're going to try and

02:06:46.600 open up another row for VIP, but we don't know if we can do that yet. So hang in there

02:06:49.900 if we will, we'll know tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. So just fucking do it now. Do it now. Just

02:06:55.120 get, get tickets guys. If you want to be like, you know, how fucking own Benjamins fans are

02:06:59.400 Tripoli's same way. They're going to fucking sell a hundred each probably. So if you're, if

02:07:05.680 you're a dangerous slash Nephilim slash Liberty lockdown fan, uh, you got to get them now.

02:07:09.980 Yeah. Yeah. Yes. They're going to move. Oh, we just got the notification. They're actually

02:07:13.560 all gone. There it goes. I know this sounds like it's aggressive sales, but that's not

02:07:20.420 what I'm doing. I'm doing it because I want our people to be there. And if they're not

02:07:23.760 there, it'll be sad. What we did was we booked people who are way more successful and way more

02:07:28.820 of a draw than we are, but we want our fucking homies to be in the audience. And so it would

02:07:33.800 make, it would make me feel bad if our people don't get to go. That's why David were having

02:07:37.060 this conversation yesterday or earlier today where I was like, okay, these things, this

02:07:41.640 thing is happening. And like, I didn't set out for it to be like this, but this is our

02:07:46.920 event. How, how do I like, I not get out shine and not, not to be like, I need all the glory,

02:07:52.500 but I'm like, Oh, we're going to get out. I know, but I'm doing this. So that way, like

02:07:56.920 we can grow the show Nephilim desk while, but then I'm like, Oh, and Benjamin basically

02:08:01.020 volunteered to do the show. Um, Elijah Schaefer just, just texted. And he's like, I am doing

02:08:06.880 the show. Yeah. He didn't even volunteer. He just told us that he was performing alpha.

02:08:10.800 Then that motherfucker better hook us up with a rumble deal. Cause I'm tired of not, you

02:08:14.860 know, well, let me tell you, we're going to have a lot of bargaining. Uh, we're going to

02:08:17.920 have a lot of bargaining power in our corner after this event. So guys, we ought to be fucking,

02:08:21.980 we ought to be negotiating right now. So Elijah, if you're watching, get your shit together,

02:08:25.920 guys, you get your shit together to subscribe to dangerous retards, subscribe to, uh, Liberty

02:08:32.240 lockdown, subscribe to Nephilim death squad and tower game and tower game. One more request

02:08:37.000 when we're on stage, please clap louder for us than you do for Owen and Sam. Yeah. In fact,

02:08:42.580 boo them. I'm kidding. That'd be, that would be funny, but don't do it. We actually have,

02:08:50.000 I have security actually at the event. Yeah. Justin. Yeah. I don't know. It's this thing is,

02:08:55.700 because it was like, we don't want anybody. Um, number one, heckling. Don't be a heckling ass

02:08:59.400 bitch. That's annoying as shit. We're up there. We're trying to perform. And also don't try to

02:09:02.340 come on the stage or you're going to get beat up. I don't think we need to tell our fans not to

02:09:06.020 heckle, but I will say, try not to get these people drunk. Uh, I don't know, but that's what

02:09:12.260 I was going to say is like, try not to get so shit face that you end up heckling on accident.

02:09:15.980 Yeah. Yeah. Heckle on accident. That's hilarious. All right guys. Uh, Clint, anything else you

02:09:20.700 have? No, no episodes coming out. No, you just fuck. I don't have a studio dog. I just moved here. So,

02:09:25.340 uh, yeah, stay tuned. Liberty Lockdown. We'll be back in four or five days.

02:09:28.600 All right, guys. Enjoy your weekend. Peace out.

Nephilim Death Squad - May 03, 2025

011： White Guilt w⧸ Owen Benjamin - Dangerous RTRDs

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