Nephilim Death Squad - December 11, 2023


016: The Truth About Schizophrenia w⧸ Dr. Jerry Marzinsky


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 42 minutes

Words per Minute

168.65076

Word Count

17,345

Sentence Count

1,360

Misogynist Sentences

16

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary

In this episode, Top and David are joined by psychotherapist Jerry Marzinski to discuss his new book, Breaking the Spell of the Ivory Tower: A Journey into the Psychotic Minds of the Mafia.


Transcript

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00:02:49.360 Welcome back, everyone, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.
00:02:54.280 We have a very exciting episode.
00:02:56.180 I know I say it's exciting because I know that Top and I are personally excited.
00:03:01.360 And I know that a lot of our fans have probably heard us bring this up ad nauseum at this point.
00:03:08.120 I think we might have mentioned this gentleman maybe in the past five episodes,
00:03:13.420 and I know that you guys were talking off air about how much his work has this interesting overlay
00:03:21.660 over the things that we're discovering, Top and I, as we go through this show.
00:03:26.380 So I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.
00:03:29.860 This is Top Lobster.
00:03:31.620 And we are finally joined today by Mr. Jerry Marzinski.
00:03:36.560 Mr. Marzinski, would you mind introducing yourself a little bit to the audience
00:03:40.820 and letting them know where they could find your work?
00:03:44.860 Okay.
00:03:45.480 I'm a retired licensed psychotherapist with over 35 years of experience in working with thought processes
00:03:54.860 of the psychotic and criminally insane and some of the most volatile psychiatric institutions in the nation.
00:04:01.580 I've held positions as second lieutenant in the Arizona Civil Air Patrol, assistant scoutmaster.
00:04:08.820 My formal academic training comprises a B.A. in psychology from Temple University,
00:04:14.500 master's degree in rehab counseling from the University of Georgia,
00:04:18.940 and two years of Ph.D. study in a psychology program.
00:04:24.320 And I'm the co-author of An Amazing Journey into the Psychotic Mind, Breaking the Spell of the Ivory Tower.
00:04:31.460 And I've been on the front lines in mental health for a long time.
00:04:38.760 And I've seen what's going on, and it's a frigging joke what they're doing.
00:04:44.540 This drug-infused merry-go-round of a mental health system that doesn't cure anybody or anything,
00:04:51.960 what's making the psychiatric mafia and big pharma billions of dollars a year.
00:05:00.480 It's crazy what they're doing.
00:05:03.560 Now, Jerry, just to jump straight into it,
00:05:06.140 do you think they're doing this for money or other more nefarious purposes?
00:05:11.040 Because obviously your work kind of goes from scientific to right into supernatural and the occult.
00:05:19.240 And a better question for you, was that a shock for you when that first happened?
00:05:24.500 Because I can imagine most people who are going into the education field,
00:05:28.660 especially to become a doctor, you're very literary, what's in this book,
00:05:32.780 taking that very serious.
00:05:33.940 My wife is an RN, so I know how that kind of mind operates.
00:05:37.520 And then to be confronted with what you were confronted with, what's that like for you?
00:05:41.320 Oh, when I realized that the voices that schizophrenics were hearing were actually entities,
00:05:49.020 it was a major shock.
00:05:51.360 You know, I actually shut down for a day when that happened.
00:05:56.580 And then being threatened by the voices was another shock.
00:06:05.580 I didn't want to believe that these voices were entities.
00:06:11.180 You know, when I first came out of graduate school, like everybody else,
00:06:16.080 I believed that these things were hallucinations because that's what the book said.
00:06:19.620 You know, all the psychology books, all the voices schizophrenics here are hallucinations.
00:06:28.620 When I got onto the front lines, things took a very different turn
00:06:33.480 when I could see what's happening with my own eyes.
00:06:36.560 You know, and when I first started at Central State Hospital,
00:06:44.500 which was the largest psychiatric hospital on the planet at the time,
00:06:48.280 there were 10,000 patients there when I got there.
00:06:50.880 It was like a sea of mental illness.
00:06:54.120 But for somebody who was an adrenaline junkie and interested in abnormal psychology,
00:06:58.840 it was, for me, it was like a candy store, you know, a strange candy store.
00:07:03.680 So here I could see, I can see the type of person you are now, Jerry,
00:07:08.440 because my wife immediately after graduating, she went into the ER
00:07:12.860 and described it much like you describe it.
00:07:16.640 But I'm like, I asked her, why do you keep going back there?
00:07:18.860 And it's kind of like, I did, there's something about it.
00:07:21.700 They, like the people that work there and retire from there,
00:07:24.660 she no longer does it, thank God.
00:07:26.360 But there's something about that that draws a certain personality type.
00:07:29.800 So I'm noting that.
00:07:31.060 Oh, yeah, I spent 10 years working in big hospital ERs.
00:07:35.880 My last 10 years in my formal work before I went into my own private practice.
00:07:43.140 And it wasn't boring.
00:07:45.600 It wasn't ever boring.
00:07:47.200 There was always something happening.
00:07:49.820 So for an adrenaline junkie, it's one of the places to be.
00:07:53.880 But when I got to this large state hospital,
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00:08:42.340 I noticed that the voices that these schizophrenics were hearing weren't what I thought they were.
00:08:51.840 I mean, when they say they're hallucinations, and that's all they said in the psych books.
00:08:57.140 Oh, yeah, they're hallucinations.
00:08:58.380 And you think of a hallucination as something that's crazy and random and makes no sense.
00:09:03.740 You know, it's just all over the place.
00:09:06.160 No, it wasn't like that at all.
00:09:07.600 What I first noticed was that these schizophrenics were carrying on long, involved, coherent conversations with their voices.
00:09:20.580 They were conversations and arguments.
00:09:23.300 And they weren't at all random or like word salad.
00:09:29.180 I mean, they were perfectly coherent.
00:09:30.940 So what it sounded like was if you're listening to somebody talk on the telephone, and you only can hear one side of the conversation.
00:09:40.860 So I could hear these guys conversing with these voices and responding to them, but I couldn't hear what the voices were saying.
00:09:49.760 So that struck me as odd.
00:09:51.360 You know, another thing that struck me as odd was nobody in that entire hospital was interested in what the voices were telling these people.
00:10:02.740 Nobody.
00:10:03.780 I mean, here's hundreds, many hundreds of staffs there.
00:10:07.920 I mean, the place sprawled over, I think it was over 3,000 acres they had assigned to that hospital.
00:10:15.040 There were over 200 buildings.
00:10:16.360 And I never saw anybody curious about what those voices were telling these people except me.
00:10:24.980 And I'd asked all the psychiatrists I worked with.
00:10:28.320 I asked psychologists.
00:10:30.000 I said, you know, what are the voices?
00:10:32.860 What are they telling these people?
00:10:34.500 And they would just say, well, they're hallucinations, which is what they were taught in college.
00:10:39.140 That's what they taught in medical school.
00:10:41.000 But they haven't done any research on them whatsoever.
00:10:44.240 It's just like the arrogant psychiatric mafia and big pharma have, you know, like the high priest of ancient Egypt have just come out and go, we hereby declare that the voices are hallucinations because we say so without any research into it whatsoever.
00:11:00.860 Is there a fear from the clinical side of things that communicating with, or not necessarily communicating with, but entertaining the dialogue?
00:11:10.640 What's the dialogue about?
00:11:11.860 What are they communicating about?
00:11:13.420 That that somehow feeds into what they would consider an illusion and that it could further progress or further spiral the situation.
00:11:22.380 So it's really almost a liability aspect where I guess the practitioner wouldn't want to be liable for, you know, increasing the delusions.
00:11:33.200 And so, you know, by that virtue, then these are just, it doesn't matter what they're saying, what the conversations are about.
00:11:40.960 They're strictly hallucinations.
00:11:42.480 And let's continue forward.
00:11:44.340 That's exactly right.
00:11:45.460 And that's what the morons say, but that's not the truth of the matter at all.
00:11:48.980 Okay.
00:11:49.540 And I got called up twice by psychiatrists for asking patients to tell me what their voices were telling.
00:11:55.980 And that's exactly what I was told.
00:11:59.220 The first one, the voices don't like people asking about them.
00:12:03.960 You know, so they will steer people away from those that are asking about them or they will act up because they don't want to, they want to be seen as part of the person's psyche, as part of their thought stream.
00:12:16.940 You know, and that's what's so dangerous about them because they sound just like the person's, the thousands of thoughts that run through a person's head every day, except the content is very different.
00:12:30.360 You know, the intention is very different.
00:12:32.960 But if it's schizophrenic, I've talked to several of them.
00:12:36.680 They ask, they're curious about what the voices are as I was, you know, and they would ask the voices, what are you?
00:12:42.680 Who are you?
00:12:43.240 And the response was, we are you.
00:12:46.940 They want them to believe that those voices that they're hearing are coming from them and belong to them.
00:12:55.280 If they believe that, they will turn into the voices and be psychotic.
00:13:01.420 You know, it's a very dangerous situation once those voices start because they sound just like the thousands of other voices that the person hears in his head every day.
00:13:11.200 We all hear a voice in our head talking to us all the time.
00:13:15.680 You know, everybody does.
00:13:17.540 The question is never asked, who's listening?
00:13:21.680 You're hearing that voice, but who's listening to it?
00:13:24.800 And how much of it is true?
00:13:27.580 Well, there's another layer when it comes to schizophrenia.
00:13:31.100 Those voices sound just like the thousands of voices that are running through your head every day.
00:13:35.920 I mean, they sound the same.
00:13:37.660 They have access to the person's memory.
00:13:39.700 You know, they can pull up every rotten thing that that person's ever done and rub it in his face until they turn them negative.
00:13:49.220 So what they are, they're parasites.
00:13:52.280 They have to turn the person's emotional state negative before they can take the energy.
00:13:59.140 Now, that's another thing that psychiatry doesn't see either.
00:14:01.800 That there's a one-to-one correlation between these, the voices coming and the person's energy being drained down to nothing.
00:14:11.660 And they don't just hit schizophrenics.
00:14:14.140 Are you talking about, like, physical energy or something like louche?
00:14:19.120 Well, louche.
00:14:20.060 Now, you can look at it as louche, but it turns into physical energy because these guys can't even get out of bed.
00:14:24.760 So I've talked to a number of them that, you know, that they had an appointment in the morning, and they were so drained after a night of being attacked by the voices, they couldn't even get out of bed.
00:14:37.540 So these things are feeding off of these people.
00:14:41.360 And like I said, they don't just hit schizophrenics.
00:14:45.000 They control them more than they do most people, but they hit us all.
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00:15:33.120 They, and some guy irritates you or something, and here's this thought comes into your mind to beat the crap out of him or whack him up the head with a baseball bat, where you might be standing on a bridge and you go, I wonder what it would like to be to jump.
00:15:47.460 Or why don't you just turn into oncoming traffic?
00:15:51.060 Those kind of thoughts, they don't come from you.
00:15:53.120 As a matter of fact, Emanuel Swedenborg says none of your thoughts come from you.
00:15:58.240 You decide what thoughts you want to attend to.
00:16:02.620 Jerry, let me propose something to you.
00:16:05.260 There's a cliff in California, I believe it's called Suicide Cliff, right?
00:16:10.560 Um, they found out, well, people would go there, they'd stop at this gas station and people that weren't suicidal, a lot of them would just commit suicide.
00:16:19.180 But the engineers and scientists or whatever found out that something about the, uh, what's the word?
00:16:27.220 Like the acoustics, the acoustic resonance of this cove that people were in, it would, it would draw them like it would want to, it would make them want to commit suicide or at least have these thoughts.
00:16:38.540 Have you ever thought about some like just geographical locations, acoustics, frequencies that would enhance, uh, the ability for these entities to come through faster or perhaps like the really bad ones hang out there?
00:16:51.920 You know what I mean?
00:16:53.040 Like why, why would this be happening?
00:16:55.460 I don't know, but I've heard of something similar.
00:16:57.760 They called it the dog suicide bridge.
00:16:59.680 I think it's in the UK, you know, where dogs just leap off of that bridge to, to their deaths and nobody can explain why.
00:17:09.420 Yeah, there was some sort of a, we were talking to a guest and we got onto the track of infrasound and how some, um, some animals can emit such a low frequency that it actually causes a feeling of dread in human beings.
00:17:23.060 Um, and that sort of mirrors this experience when people have a, maybe like a sleep paralysis experience.
00:17:29.560 Um, there's often this sort of vibrational, almost an electric buzzing, a sensation that's accompanied with a tremendous feeling of dread.
00:17:39.020 And so we went down this interesting path about, um, how various frequencies can, uh, produce different emotional states, but, but very high dramatic emotional states.
00:17:50.640 For example, the fact that you would never experience, uh, that level of dread that you would in a sleep paralysis episode with some sort of, you know, shadow entity that these people describe.
00:17:59.380 Oftentimes, uh, that, that feeling of dread simply never manifests itself in waking life in any other situation.
00:18:05.700 And so, uh, whatever these entities operate through, it often seems like they could, uh, uh, sort of evoke.
00:18:12.380 So, uh, high level emotional states, whether it's rage or, or sadness or, uh, or fear, right.
00:18:19.140 And you're talking about how these things, they will put you to your lowest and feed off of that energy.
00:18:24.440 There's sort of a reciprocal, uh, event taking place where they can make you feel that way.
00:18:29.460 And then they feed off of it and it's a cycle.
00:18:32.020 And then they do this essentially until they drain you.
00:18:34.240 But, but Dr. Marzinski, I do want to mention to you, and I wanted to get your thoughts on it.
00:18:38.160 I'd be remiss if I didn't mention this.
00:18:39.520 I talk about it often on my show.
00:18:41.580 Um, my aunt is a, uh, schizophrenic and, uh, multiple personality disorder.
00:18:48.000 And, um, she has had a lot of very uncanny experiences that I think I find maybe my,
00:18:57.560 the rest of my family is uncomfortable talking about, uh, sort of things like precognition.
00:19:04.100 Uh, she seems to have an ability at times, or at least there are anecdotal stories, uh, where
00:19:11.600 she knows something seemingly like insignificant that is about to happen and then does take
00:19:17.420 place.
00:19:18.240 Uh, and it's never like groundbreaking, you know, but she does seem to have like this little
00:19:23.560 uncanny window into, uh, future events.
00:19:26.820 And like I said, they're never like big, tremendous events.
00:19:29.240 They're seemingly insignificant, but she does seem to know them sometimes.
00:19:33.600 Uh, she also has this experience where she will smell, um, a sort of a sulfuric smell.
00:19:41.660 And then this is her cue that some entity is around.
00:19:45.300 She calls it the devil.
00:19:46.800 Uh, but the way that she smells it or the way that she describes the scent is often the
00:19:51.480 way that other people who have experiences run-ins with, um, various entities.
00:19:57.100 And we're talking from, you know, someone who is, uh, uh, uh, sort of a victim of like
00:20:02.980 a demonic encounter that they find very difficult to explain.
00:20:06.800 But oftentimes they will say that it was, um, uh, first caught onto as far as their senses
00:20:14.380 by a smell, a sulfuric smell, something rotten, um, accompanied with a sulfuric smell.
00:20:19.260 And, uh, also people who experience cryptids, interestingly enough, will also describe a
00:20:25.000 very similar smell.
00:20:26.260 Uh, and my aunt, um, she also has this, these events where she's been able to find things.
00:20:35.880 For example, like she'd be in the care of another aunt of mine, but she'd know exactly
00:20:41.080 where to find, um, sort of gold.
00:20:46.300 Uh, so if my aunt had stashed away her jewelry for fear that my schizophrenic aunt was going
00:20:51.700 to find it and do something, she'd know where to find it.
00:20:54.620 Uh, and, you know, she claimed that it was basically the voices that told her, but nobody
00:20:59.920 was willing to really have those conversations with her.
00:21:02.360 Uh, it was just very short lived, you know, oh, the voices, you know, I could, I would
00:21:06.180 overhear it as a child.
00:21:07.160 Oh, how did she find the gold?
00:21:10.240 I thought you hid it.
00:21:10.920 I thought you hid your jewelry.
00:21:11.820 She said that the voices told her where it was, and then there's no explanation for
00:21:17.080 that.
00:21:17.680 And people find that very uncomfortable.
00:21:19.760 I know in your work, um, this is something that you've come across.
00:21:23.240 Uh, maybe I'm speaking out of, out of school here, but I do believe you've described things
00:21:27.280 as a precognition and also the ability to find things that otherwise they shouldn't have
00:21:33.180 been able to.
00:21:34.160 Um, and I wonder maybe if you could talk a little bit about that.
00:21:36.640 Yeah, well, first of all, multiple personality and schizophrenia are two very different things.
00:21:43.700 Okay.
00:21:44.220 The multiple personality, it's, it's like, uh, they are actually different, uh, objective,
00:21:52.200 different personalities.
00:21:53.280 So one personality could be, uh, violently, uh, allergic to shrimp and another personality
00:22:03.240 in that same, same person could eat shrimp and not be affected at all.
00:22:07.720 I mean, so it's, it's that big of a difference.
00:22:09.920 These are individual personalities.
00:22:12.640 Do you mean like schizophrenia is a different thing?
00:22:15.820 Is that like an actual physical reaction to shrimp or would it just be a psychosomatic?
00:22:20.160 No, no.
00:22:20.680 It would be an actual physical allergic reaction to shrimp.
00:22:24.560 You know, one person breaks out in hives, one personality, the other personality can eat
00:22:29.320 shrimp fine and there's no reaction whatsoever in the same body.
00:22:33.240 So it's a totally different phenomena than schizophrenia.
00:22:36.740 You know, schizophrenia, they, it started out, I mean, it means split mind.
00:22:41.100 That's what it means.
00:22:42.620 Um, but the, it, it, it's, um, characterized by these entities, these voices that, uh, the
00:22:50.620 psychiatric mafia insists are hallucinations, but they know stuff.
00:22:56.340 I mean, I've talked to, uh, especially, uh, meth addicts.
00:22:59.700 When they run out of meth, the voices would tell them where to go and when to be there.
00:23:04.920 And some stranger would show up with meth.
00:23:07.920 You know, I had one prisoner tell him, hey, watch out for this guy over here.
00:23:11.260 He's going to assault you.
00:23:12.580 And a day or two later that happened.
00:23:15.820 You know, so they know stuff that the person, uh, himself doesn't know.
00:23:19.880 And they use that, uh, to, to get their claws in the person.
00:23:25.100 Like, well, see, we can do this for you.
00:23:27.440 And once they get your trust, then they got you.
00:23:30.800 You know, they're, they're feeding off you.
00:23:33.480 They are parasites.
00:23:34.780 And, and the voices never say anything good.
00:23:39.140 It's always bad stuff.
00:23:40.820 It's like, you're no good.
00:23:41.900 You're rotten.
00:23:42.460 You're ugly.
00:23:43.000 You're stupid.
00:23:43.820 Nobody likes you.
00:23:45.000 You're, you know, every rotten thing that you could think of those voices tell these people.
00:23:49.480 So they really bring them down into dumps.
00:23:54.300 And once they, once they get them down there, then there's a one-to-one correspondence between
00:23:59.400 the voices coming and their energy disappearing.
00:24:02.080 So these things are parasites and they feed off of all of us.
00:24:06.640 Not, not just schizophrenics.
00:24:08.660 You know, you start thinking in negative thought, you know, you ask yourself, well, where does that
00:24:13.480 come from?
00:24:15.160 I mean, where, where does your thought stream come from?
00:24:17.960 It wasn't there when you were born.
00:24:20.460 You know, where do thoughts come from?
00:24:25.160 I mean, nobody's ever dug into a person's brain and found the thought in there.
00:24:30.020 So your brain is like a radio, a radio receiver.
00:24:35.040 It's turned to a certain frequency.
00:24:37.800 The schizophrenics are turned to a very low frequency and the voices want to keep them
00:24:42.200 there.
00:24:42.380 So even if they try to, you know, do these, uh, what do they call them?
00:24:46.720 These, where you repeat a positive phrase or something like that, the voices turn it back
00:24:52.200 for me.
00:24:52.920 Yeah.
00:24:53.060 A mantra or something like that.
00:24:54.760 The voices turn it back down.
00:24:56.920 Okay.
00:24:57.300 So you ask yourself, well, where do thoughts come from?
00:25:01.520 That's never addressed by psychiatry or, or, or psychology.
00:25:06.020 Neither is any spiritual matter.
00:25:08.040 We're all spiritual beings.
00:25:09.460 That's completely ignored by psychiatry and psychology.
00:25:12.660 You know, the big pharma treats us like biological machines.
00:25:16.500 Those drugs that they're dishing out are for the most part, very toxic, especially the
00:25:21.520 antipsychotic drugs.
00:25:23.180 They brought your brain out with long-term use and they lie about it.
00:25:28.740 You know, they, they won't tell the patient how dangerous these drugs are.
00:25:33.440 The antipsychotic drugs are some of the most dangerous drugs used in medicine today.
00:25:37.540 And, and when they found out, I'm sorry to interrupt, but my aunt, uh, she would actually
00:25:44.400 neglect her medication.
00:25:45.500 So when she was on her medication, she, you know, you could have a conversation with her,
00:25:49.000 but the way she described it was like a sort of a dulling effect, almost as if these things
00:25:53.020 are like sedatives.
00:25:53.920 It's like, we can't really identify the problem.
00:25:57.300 We can't solve it.
00:25:58.380 We can't fix it.
00:25:59.180 And so let's mute.
00:26:00.740 Yes, exactly.
00:26:02.160 And so that experience was so negative.
00:26:04.460 Yes.
00:26:04.680 And that was so negative for her that she would rather have the, the, the experience
00:26:08.700 of multiple personalities, uh, than to be on the, on the, uh, medication.
00:26:13.160 And so, yeah, that's, it's like a terrible band-aid that is not at all addressing the
00:26:18.060 actual issue.
00:26:18.700 We just sedate them.
00:26:20.260 That's right.
00:26:21.080 And it, and the side effects are awful.
00:26:23.160 They're just God awful.
00:26:24.920 Um, and, and they don't even tell the person the worst of them, you know, they'll, they'll
00:26:29.720 tell them, oh, uh, it'll blur your vision.
00:26:32.400 There'll be sexual dysfunction.
00:26:33.760 You'll feel a little, you know, drugged up, you'll be a little groggy, uh, you know, the
00:26:38.660 common side effects they'll tell the patient, but they won't tell them, Hey, with long-term
00:26:42.920 use, it's going to rot out your brain.
00:26:44.500 It's going to rot out your central nervous system.
00:26:46.280 It's going to rot out your peripheral nervous system.
00:26:48.480 They, they, they don't leave it.
00:26:50.060 They don't put any of that out.
00:26:51.600 They don't tell them about the akinesia and the nervous disorders that it causes.
00:26:55.940 Matter of fact, at the state hospital and some private hospitals, that's all they know
00:27:01.000 to do is to drug these people.
00:27:02.360 So when these side effects, these, these nasty neurological side effects start, they'll give
00:27:07.980 them another drug to sedate them more.
00:27:10.200 So they're not feeling the side effects from the antipsychotics so that their, their brain
00:27:16.740 is continually being rotted out.
00:27:18.800 There's permanent neurological damage and they're giving them stuff like, uh, uh, Oh, what is
00:27:24.800 a cogentin to mask that, that, that neurological damage.
00:27:30.160 You know, these people are, are, and they know they're not curing anything.
00:27:34.620 They know it, you know, they're not curing anything.
00:27:38.500 They're taught in, in, in college that this is all there is, you know, that these drugs are
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00:29:28.080 So even though in a lot of cases it won't, it won't completely cure schizophrenia, it'll
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00:29:41.240 biochemical imbalance as, as the big pharma made up.
00:29:45.760 That was a complete fabrication.
00:29:47.540 This biochemical imbalance crap, you know, first they started off blaming the mothers
00:29:52.140 say, Oh, mothers did something wrong.
00:29:54.280 And that's why the kids are becoming schizophrenics.
00:29:56.760 But everybody could see that the mothers were going, no, no, we didn't do anything wrong.
00:30:01.000 Look, I mean, you know, we were great parents and the kid became schizophrenic anyway.
00:30:05.900 So what they had to do was boost it up into an area where people couldn't see or verify
00:30:11.540 what they were saying.
00:30:12.860 So then they started with this genetic garbage.
00:30:15.620 Oh, it's a, it's a genetic disorder, you know, and, and they, they're still touting that.
00:30:20.640 I mean, even today, they're still, they're still touting that and, and it's been proved
00:30:25.040 completely wrong.
00:30:27.000 You know, so.
00:30:28.240 Mr. Marzinski, is there a correlation, um, that's been found between childhood trauma
00:30:32.640 and schizophrenia?
00:30:33.180 Yeah, there's a correlation between all kinds of trauma and schizophrenia.
00:30:39.680 You know, there's usually with schizophrenics, you'll find, uh, severe, physical, emotional,
00:30:48.400 uh, psychological abuse, sexual abuse.
00:30:54.660 It's there.
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00:31:24.100 Let me, let me ask, I mean, when I, you know, I'm like a, I'm more of a political guy, or
00:31:28.380 at least I was.
00:31:29.360 And, uh, then I started to figure out the kind of like energy, energy stuff and, and
00:31:34.660 this, you know, conspiracy minded stuff.
00:31:36.620 And when I look at like certain events, 9-11, um, COVID, a huge one, these are trauma events.
00:31:45.140 And in my opinion, most likely done on purpose to feed on our loosh.
00:31:49.580 And so is war.
00:31:51.220 Yeah.
00:31:51.520 Oh, that's a huge one.
00:31:52.400 All the worst that they constantly keep running.
00:31:54.800 Yeah.
00:31:56.200 It's just demoral, I called it demoralization before, but now I'm thinking just straight
00:32:01.680 trauma.
00:32:02.160 And it kind of does make sense if, if you are, let's say like a lower vibrational entity
00:32:07.620 that is in charge of this large apparatus called the government, and you kind of wanted
00:32:12.200 to produce more ways for other entities to get into your general population of 300 million
00:32:18.760 plus people.
00:32:19.420 And then you combine that with, uh, anti-psychotics, which is what you were just talking about.
00:32:26.220 And it's, uh, I feel like that creates the world that we have today where you're taking
00:32:31.420 like half the people off the grid.
00:32:33.180 Then the other half, you're trying to drive them to insanity.
00:32:37.180 You know, the ones that you haven't doled down.
00:32:39.100 Then there's a small remnant of us who are kind of seeing through the bullshit and still
00:32:43.380 have our minds about us, you know, as of right now, man, this is, it doesn't look
00:32:48.740 very good.
00:32:49.800 No, that's exactly right.
00:32:51.380 Matter of fact, uh, we've identified some 23 patterns that these voices run.
00:32:56.660 Okay.
00:32:57.440 Now the deal is if they're running fixed, repeatable, you know, non-variable patterns, they can't
00:33:05.840 be hallucinations, which, which the psychiatric mafia is insisting with no research into the
00:33:12.880 matter whatsoever.
00:33:14.420 They're just declaring that these things are hallucinations.
00:33:17.720 And what's interesting is that these patterns that these psychotic voices run are the same
00:33:26.600 patterns that we're hearing over the television every day from the mainstream media right now.
00:33:32.780 And I'll run through some of them for you.
00:33:35.080 Negativity.
00:33:36.280 The voices are consistently, persistently negative.
00:33:40.340 They don't say anything good.
00:33:42.000 You turn on the television and it's constantly bad news.
00:33:45.460 This person died.
00:33:46.740 That person died.
00:33:47.560 People shot.
00:33:49.340 Uh, these many people died in the wards, all bad news being broadcast constantly all the
00:33:55.760 time.
00:33:56.820 Okay.
00:33:57.720 The anti, the voices are anti-religious.
00:34:00.100 They can't stand the 23rd Psalm.
00:34:02.420 They can't stand the person going to church.
00:34:04.660 They can't stand them reading the Bible.
00:34:07.880 They can't stand them talking to preachers or being anywhere around the priest.
00:34:11.620 What hallucination would do that?
00:34:16.460 You know, what, what, what, why aren't they, if they're hallucinations, why aren't they all
00:34:21.640 over the place?
00:34:22.260 Why aren't some positive?
00:34:23.400 Why aren't some negative?
00:34:24.400 Why aren't some, uh, neutral?
00:34:26.660 Why aren't they all over the place like regular hallucinations?
00:34:29.420 They're not.
00:34:30.100 They're consistently negative.
00:34:31.420 And you can see this for yourself.
00:34:32.900 Anybody who works with these people, anybody who, uh, has a, a schizophrenic, uh, family
00:34:39.880 member can see this for themselves.
00:34:42.080 You know, you can see these things for yourself.
00:34:44.900 They foster and create negative emotion.
00:34:47.620 They don't ever say anything good to the person.
00:34:50.640 It's all bad stuff.
00:34:52.760 They're, they're, they're creating that negative emotion because that's what they feed off of.
00:34:56.640 And then their energy level drops.
00:34:58.500 Once these voices attack them, there's a one-to-one correlation between being attacked.
00:35:02.880 They're attacked by these voices and their energy being drained.
00:35:05.740 So they're parasites and they're not just hitting schizophrenics.
00:35:08.940 They're hitting all of us.
00:35:10.680 You know, any negative thoughts you have about yourself or anybody else is put into your head
00:35:15.120 by the dark side.
00:35:17.880 Your mind, your, your brain is actually like a radio receiver.
00:35:21.420 You decide what show you want to listen to, you know, and if you're tuned to the negative
00:35:26.640 stuff, that's what you're going to get.
00:35:28.500 So these things are, are parasites and people who are schizophrenics need to understand.
00:35:32.880 That these voices are feeding off of them.
00:35:35.680 They're not there to help them.
00:35:37.940 You know, they're there to drive them crazy and, and suck their energy.
00:35:41.340 They get louder when ignored.
00:35:43.120 I remember at the state hospital, uh, uh, one day I was in with a psychiatrist and the patient,
00:35:48.800 the patient was complaining about the voices and the psychiatrist said, oh, they're just
00:35:52.400 hallucinations.
00:35:53.060 Just ignore them.
00:35:54.600 So I called that guy in a week later and I, you know, I didn't know anything much back
00:35:58.300 then.
00:35:58.560 And I said, how's that working for you?
00:36:00.800 You know, when you ignore the voices, what happens?
00:36:02.960 He said, it's not working at all.
00:36:04.460 They get louder.
00:36:05.700 And that's a consistent thing.
00:36:07.840 You can talk to all of them.
00:36:09.400 If they try to ignore the voices, the voices get louder.
00:36:12.160 They will not be ignored.
00:36:13.600 They foster self-destructive or self-defeating behavior.
00:36:19.440 They're always putting these people up to, to, to sabotaging themselves, to getting themselves
00:36:25.000 in trouble, to getting themselves thrown in jail or prison.
00:36:28.200 Once they get them thrown in prison and the prisons have become the state hospitals now
00:36:32.780 since they closed all the state hospitals.
00:36:34.740 So they're putting all the, all the schizophrenics in there now and, and they're being abused
00:36:41.160 and, and threatened and, and terrorized by some of these other gangster inmates.
00:36:46.900 And then when they're, they're, uh, sentence is up, they release them with two weeks of
00:36:51.460 medicine and 50 bucks and said, okay, you're free.
00:36:54.280 You know, they're in much worse shape than they ever went in there on.
00:36:58.500 So the prisons are generating worse and worse criminals.
00:37:03.600 You know, I've seen them release people that I knew would kill somebody in six months,
00:37:08.160 but their, their sentence was up.
00:37:10.340 They're done.
00:37:11.240 And, and rehabilitation in the prisons is a joke.
00:37:14.020 It used to exist back, you know, 10 or 20 years ago, they used to have rehabilitation
00:37:17.820 programs.
00:37:18.900 Now they have virtually nothing.
00:37:20.760 And the private prisons are even worse.
00:37:23.340 They're just holding tanks.
00:37:24.840 They don't do anything.
00:37:26.040 They don't do any kind of treatment.
00:37:27.360 They don't do any kind of groups.
00:37:28.940 They're just frigging stagnant holding tanks for these people.
00:37:33.600 You know, and they, they pay off the legislators and go, oh yeah, we can keep your people in
00:37:38.120 prison for cheaper than anybody else because they don't do anything for them.
00:37:42.520 They're just sitting there rotting away.
00:37:45.220 You know?
00:37:45.420 So the voices demand the attention of the victim.
00:37:49.040 You know, they, they maneuver for increased control over the victims, just like the government
00:37:54.280 does more and more control all the time.
00:37:57.580 They gaslight their victims.
00:38:00.060 Government's good at that.
00:38:01.400 They manipulate perception.
00:38:03.060 Government's good at that.
00:38:05.120 Now, one thing, one thing they do have, they have complete access to the schizophrenic's
00:38:09.620 memory because these are energetic entities.
00:38:11.860 They can go in there and they can pull up every rotten thing that person ever did and
00:38:16.400 start rubbing it in their faces.
00:38:18.460 You remember when you did this?
00:38:19.700 Remember when you hurt this guy?
00:38:20.980 Remember when you did that?
00:38:22.500 And that generates negative emotional energy also.
00:38:25.880 They've even found stuff that the person forgot about 10 years ago.
00:38:29.960 They, they brought it up.
00:38:32.140 So Dr.
00:38:33.140 Marzinski, does this, uh, this correlation I find really interesting.
00:38:36.920 And I'm, I'm glad you brought this up again because I had written it down.
00:38:39.560 You mentioned it earlier, right?
00:38:40.540 Them having access to the memories and sort of throwing past trespasses in the victim's
00:38:45.900 face, right?
00:38:46.540 As, as a manipulation tool.
00:38:48.720 Um, and so it's, I guess it demoralizes them.
00:38:51.560 It gives them, you know, it's going to produce more negative energy, thereby more control over
00:38:55.560 the victim.
00:38:56.480 Um, and this reminds me very much of, you know, uh, we could just look to the exorcist film
00:39:02.700 where, uh, and there's plenty of them.
00:39:05.800 They've made this movie ad nauseum over and over again.
00:39:08.180 And, um, there's always the, the, uh, the person who's been possessed by this entity has
00:39:15.900 somehow the ability to recall something about, let's say, for example, the priest who is praying
00:39:22.260 over them, trying to exercise the demons.
00:39:24.240 Suddenly this person turns to them and knows a thing that they've done in the past and wields
00:39:30.280 it against them in this moment.
00:39:31.700 Yes, exactly.
00:39:33.620 Um, and I recently had a guest on, uh, my other show and he was talking about, he, he, uh,
00:39:40.980 made a church in, uh, Alberta, Canada, and, um, there's a, a really big drug issue out
00:39:47.840 there and he was trying to help, you know, remedy this.
00:39:51.420 And one of the things that he would see is these people who were on drugs from his perspective,
00:39:57.820 he felt like they were possessed and, uh, you know, but once again, this line right between
00:40:02.740 mental illness and demonic possession, um, and the way that he's describing them to me
00:40:08.300 is very accusatory.
00:40:10.700 So even at the lower stages of, uh, of really rampant drug use, often a user will turn, uh,
00:40:20.300 uh, very negatively towards anybody who would interact with them and use sort of accusatory
00:40:25.760 language.
00:40:26.340 And, uh, at its highest stages where it really drug abuse really looks like high level mental
00:40:33.140 illness really looks like.
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00:41:00.300 Demonic possession, there is a lot of this, uh, sort of, um, mirrored interaction between
00:41:08.620 all three of them where the, the common thread is this accusatory nature.
00:41:12.640 And it got me thinking about, I, I'm not a biblical the only theologian by any means,
00:41:17.380 but I do have to say Satan, Satan is the accuser.
00:41:21.360 Yeah.
00:41:21.640 Right.
00:41:22.000 It's so boom through, through all of these things, that's the common line, Satan, the accuser.
00:41:28.160 And you can see this behavior across all of these.
00:41:31.460 And then that right there, obviously is something that, uh, human beings have been struggling
00:41:35.380 with since our inception.
00:41:36.820 Uh, it's, you know, it's in our book.
00:41:39.180 And, uh, and to me, that jumps out as a really important piece of this puzzle.
00:41:45.360 Um, when you start to ask the question, why is this a common thread?
00:41:49.300 Does that, does that resonate with you at all?
00:41:51.240 That resonates right on a hundred percent.
00:41:53.640 And the worst drug out there is meth.
00:41:57.040 You know, I've seen more prisoners go psychotic on meth than any other drug out there.
00:42:02.280 I mean, it's a very dangerous drug.
00:42:04.220 The prisoners called it, uh, uh, the devil's drug when I was working psych in the, in the
00:42:09.240 prison system.
00:42:10.600 Um, they'd start off and, and, uh, you know, it'd feel great.
00:42:16.220 They felt like Superman.
00:42:17.680 They didn't sleep.
00:42:18.740 They got a lot done, uh, felt wonderful.
00:42:21.280 And then when they crashed, it was awful.
00:42:23.880 And then they started hearing the voices, you know, telling them rotten things about themselves.
00:42:28.240 And, and, uh, they go, oh, that's just a hallucination.
00:42:31.640 It'll go away.
00:42:32.360 And, and when they came down, it did, and it might've gone away, um, and maybe another
00:42:37.020 20 times or 30 times or something.
00:42:39.360 And then one day it didn't.
00:42:41.340 They were, they were psychotic.
00:42:42.980 As psychotic as anybody in the, in the psychiatric hospital, you know, it makes people crazy and
00:42:51.020 they stay crazy.
00:42:52.620 It doesn't go away, you know?
00:42:55.140 So if they start hearing voices and it doesn't go away within six months, there's a very good
00:43:00.600 chance they're going to be psychotic for the rest of their lives.
00:43:04.740 Meth is a very, very dangerous drug.
00:43:07.940 You know, it opens you up to these, these negative entities like no other drug out there.
00:43:12.980 And it's coming across the border, you know, blessed by our government at this time, by
00:43:19.420 the ton.
00:43:21.440 You know, it's just, it's just, it's, it's just coming by the truckload over the border.
00:43:26.300 It tells you something about our government at the present time.
00:43:29.340 Yeah.
00:43:29.600 And Ritalin, you know, they're putting, they're putting more and more kids on Ritalin.
00:43:33.720 And, uh, I mean, they got, they got tens of thousands of kids on Ritalin now and maybe
00:43:40.440 even more.
00:43:41.040 I have the statistics somewhere, but, uh, you know, and they move on, they move on from
00:43:48.860 that.
00:43:49.160 I asked prisoners who were put on Ritalin as kids, you know, well, you were feeling as
00:43:53.160 good as you had in a long time.
00:43:54.740 You're able to concentrate.
00:43:55.640 Why did you keep taking more and more meth?
00:43:58.600 Their answer was, I don't know.
00:44:02.960 You know, they, they, they, they're drugging kids at an enormous rate right now.
00:44:08.960 Dr.
00:44:09.480 Marzinski, was that something that you saw, uh, with meth users?
00:44:12.680 Was that, uh, accusatory nature?
00:44:14.660 Because I also feel like there's something that happens when people get addicted to, uh,
00:44:19.680 really hard drugs, like, like meth and things like that, where, um, anybody who seeks to
00:44:24.420 help them is somehow turned into the enemy.
00:44:27.780 And so when I think of like the accusatory nature, I also think of that.
00:44:30.760 It was, that's something that you saw particularly with meth.
00:44:33.180 That's what I saw with meth.
00:44:34.520 And I saw with schizophrenia, you know, the voices are telling the person that anybody who's
00:44:40.480 trying to help them is their enemy.
00:44:41.800 You know, so that's, that's particularly difficult for moms and dads who have schizophrenic kids
00:44:48.340 because they don't realize that they don't, for the most part, they don't realize that
00:44:52.320 those voices are entities trying to take over their kid, you know, and the worst thing they
00:44:58.500 can do is allow them to sit in their bedrooms by themselves, listening to the voices.
00:45:04.760 But the voices make it so miserable for, um, for the parents that a lot of times they just
00:45:11.140 give up and say, yeah, go, go sit in your room and leave us alone.
00:45:15.660 It's an epidemic.
00:45:16.940 Jerry, let me, let me tell you a story about a guy that we just spoke to, maybe even last
00:45:20.940 episode.
00:45:21.280 I don't remember.
00:45:22.340 Um, he was, he went on a journey similar to what you're talking about using a drug and
00:45:28.880 looking for answers from the other side.
00:45:31.700 The drug was mushrooms, but what the story turns out that he told us is that, uh, he did
00:45:40.220 make contact with entities from the other side, but they've been giving him advice and it's
00:45:45.900 been exactly the opposite of the, the traits that you just described with the schizophrenic,
00:45:51.560 uh, entities.
00:45:53.380 They're, they're giving him advice.
00:45:55.940 They're helping him with diet.
00:45:57.880 They're helping him with life stuff.
00:45:59.540 They're saying, don't work this job, go here.
00:46:02.540 And he came on, he's, he's fully convinced that he's communicating with them.
00:46:06.500 And another, uh, overlap there was, he was taking a lot of mushrooms to contact these
00:46:13.200 things whenever they decided they would give him a nudge.
00:46:15.660 Hey, we want to talk, get the mushrooms.
00:46:17.920 Now he says he doesn't have to anymore.
00:46:20.440 He got to a point where-
00:46:21.320 I would like to also toss in there, they were pushing him oddly enough.
00:46:24.400 This is the only time I've ever heard this, pushing him towards, uh, Jesus and the church.
00:46:28.780 And now he's, he's an avid churchgoer, prays on a regular basis, uh, has an incredibly healthy
00:46:35.500 lifestyle, has improved by almost all metrics.
00:46:38.980 And, uh, and I've just never heard any, any of these entities that you would contact through
00:46:44.260 drug use.
00:46:44.760 And I'm certainly not advocating it for anybody.
00:46:46.440 And, and I don't believe he did either.
00:46:48.740 Uh, he even said that specifically, he said, don't do this, um, because it's, you know,
00:46:52.900 intense and horrifying in many ways, I suppose, but I've never heard anything point the user
00:46:57.960 towards, uh, Christ and towards the church.
00:47:01.620 That was very interesting.
00:47:03.280 Well, I've heard some of these voices do that.
00:47:07.560 Now, this is the first time I've ever heard of a positive outcome because what they do in
00:47:13.000 most cases, they'll start out positive.
00:47:15.600 You know, like I'm a spirit.
00:47:17.680 I can, I know stuff that you don't, I can help you out.
00:47:20.140 I can tell you where you lost that kind of stuff.
00:47:22.760 And once they hooked them, then they turn on them, you know, so they want to get them
00:47:28.380 hooked and believing that they're, this is a positive entity that can help them out from
00:47:33.700 the other side, like their guardian angel or Christ or something like that.
00:47:37.120 Once they get them believing in them, then they turn on them and ravage them.
00:47:40.060 So this is a, this is the only case, what you're telling me is the only case I've ever
00:47:45.260 heard where something like that came through, except for maybe that Seth's material or, or
00:47:51.120 something like that.
00:47:52.060 It's very, very rare.
00:47:54.340 Usually it's the other way around where they'll tell them, Oh, I'm Christ or, uh, I'm a positive
00:48:00.960 spirit.
00:48:01.860 I can help you out.
00:48:03.260 And then they turn on them.
00:48:04.580 So you've got to be very careful with that because they want to get your trust.
00:48:08.360 And once you let them in, then you've given them permission and then you can't get rid
00:48:13.040 of them.
00:48:14.120 It's very difficult.
00:48:15.560 That's a hermetic principle.
00:48:17.540 Would you, in your studies, like what's the, cause there, there has to be some kind of solution,
00:48:22.360 right?
00:48:22.740 People aren't just left out to dry and medication's not one of them.
00:48:26.200 What have you seen?
00:48:27.560 Well, the first thing that people need to realize is that these aren't hallucinations and
00:48:32.780 that these toxic drugs that psychiatrists are feeding these people aren't getting rid of
00:48:36.860 anything.
00:48:37.240 They're just, they're just, you know, like you guys said, they're, they're major tranquilizers.
00:48:42.080 All they do is dumb them down.
00:48:43.640 They don't cure anything and neither do there any depressants or any anxiety agents.
00:48:49.000 They're all they're doing is drugging the brain.
00:48:51.560 So the first thing they need to understand that, that these things are entities, you know,
00:48:56.700 they are not hallucinations, that they are not the person that the voices they hear in
00:49:02.680 their head do not belong to them.
00:49:05.440 They come from these entities, you know, and they're marked by usually negative stuff about
00:49:11.580 the person themselves or people around them.
00:49:14.900 And their intent is not the same as the intent of the person themselves.
00:49:18.700 That's the first thing that has to be done.
00:49:21.540 And the mainstream media, big pharma, they're making over $4 billion a year on anti-psychotic
00:49:32.700 drugs.
00:49:33.600 They don't want this information out.
00:49:36.380 They're not trying to help anybody.
00:49:38.160 They're not trying to cure anybody.
00:49:39.880 They're trying to sell drugs.
00:49:41.380 That's all they want.
00:49:42.680 They could care less whether they work or not.
00:49:45.860 You know, and they, they, they've, they've got the entire human race under their thumb.
00:49:50.040 The entire Western world is believing they're bullcrap.
00:49:54.120 They, oh yeah, we're the only, only people who can treat schizophrenia.
00:49:57.540 We're, we're the mental health specialist of the world.
00:50:00.180 You know, and you, you look at, you look at their, their, you would think that, you know,
00:50:10.080 schizophrenics have a suicide rate of three to five times higher than the normal population.
00:50:15.120 You know, you would expect that from schizophrenics.
00:50:18.360 Psychiatrists also have that same number of suicides.
00:50:24.020 They're, they're virtually identical to that of the schizophrenics, three to five times that
00:50:29.080 of, of the normal population.
00:50:31.720 These are the people who are running the mental health system in the United States.
00:50:36.100 Not only the United States, all over the Western world.
00:50:42.280 They're curing nothing.
00:50:44.400 They're, they're also, they're also making the most contact with these entities.
00:50:50.360 If this is radiation, you know, and someone was like just green glowing and the doctors
00:50:55.360 are sitting there next to him.
00:50:56.560 It's like, you're going to get that dude, especially if you don't know what you're dealing
00:51:00.660 in, which is like one of the most important things in life in general.
00:51:04.980 This is, this whole thing is very spiritual.
00:51:06.800 If you don't know that, that it's spiritual, then you're going to be like, I don't know,
00:51:11.000 trust the plan with Q, or you're going to be like, I'm going to go over here and cut
00:51:13.720 my dick off because people said so.
00:51:15.520 You got no, you're flying blind.
00:51:18.160 And most doctors are, it's baffling.
00:51:20.560 Yes, that's exactly right.
00:51:21.940 That's exactly, and that's why doctors, especially psychiatrists, are attacked by their patients
00:51:28.560 more than virtually any other doctors.
00:51:31.820 And I remember seeing that when I got to Central State Hospital.
00:51:35.580 Psychiatrists were always getting slugged.
00:51:38.540 You know, it was more than psych nurses.
00:51:40.440 It was more than psychologists, counselors.
00:51:42.320 Their assault rate was virtually identical to that of attendants who were working 24 hours
00:51:48.420 a day on the wards with these psychotic people, you know, and they were, I think they were
00:51:53.300 a little bit afraid of these people.
00:51:55.240 So they didn't want you irritating them at all because you couldn't ever predict what
00:51:59.520 they were going to do.
00:52:01.280 So they didn't want anybody asking questions that would irritate the voices.
00:52:05.100 So you look at, you look at the overall, you know, so here's psychiatry, the psychiatric
00:52:14.460 mafia, and big pharma saying, we're the only people that can treat mental illness.
00:52:19.340 We're the experts.
00:52:21.320 You know, you look at what they're doing.
00:52:23.320 I mean, in the, last year, there was 49,200 people in the United States committed suicide
00:52:30.900 in 2002, 2022.
00:52:33.060 That's almost 50,000 people killed themselves in the United States alone.
00:52:39.660 And this is, this is with more antipsychotic and, and, and psychiatric drugs than have ever
00:52:45.720 existed on the planet in the history of mankind.
00:52:51.240 And this is happening year after year, after year, after year.
00:52:55.700 We're so desensitized.
00:52:56.940 So what's the report, what's the report card on these guys?
00:53:00.520 You know, I'd give them an F.
00:53:02.260 You know, the CDC reports 132 people in the U.S. killed themselves every day with more
00:53:09.040 psychiatric drugs on the planet than ever before, ever.
00:53:13.760 You know?
00:53:14.920 So only 50,000 people died in the Vietnam War that lasted 10 years.
00:53:20.200 And you got 50,000, almost 50,000 people killing themselves every year, year after year after
00:53:24.460 year.
00:53:24.740 Taking these frigging antidepressant drugs that don't work worth a crap and make them feel
00:53:31.020 like crap.
00:53:31.520 The Mace Energy Method could handle this.
00:53:34.820 They could, they could fix these people, but they won't, they won't promote it.
00:53:39.520 You know?
00:53:40.820 Between 2000 and 2018, the suicide rates increased 37%.
00:53:45.840 They're going up and up and up.
00:53:47.700 Every year they're going up.
00:53:48.880 And according to the CDC, the U.S.
00:53:55.780 suicide rates have reached the highest level since World War II.
00:54:00.100 And this is with more psychiatrists and psychologists being in existence than ever before.
00:54:07.760 You know, does this look like it constitutes an effective mental health system?
00:54:11.340 It's garbage.
00:54:12.160 It's a drug-fueled drug merry-go-round that just goes round and round and round.
00:54:16.660 I've seen it in the private psychiatric hospitals.
00:54:18.920 I've seen it in the state hospitals.
00:54:21.040 I've seen it in the mental health centers.
00:54:23.080 They bring these people in.
00:54:24.540 They milk them for all the insurance they got.
00:54:26.920 They fill them full of these toxic psych drugs with nasty side effects.
00:54:31.320 They release them.
00:54:32.280 Six months later, they go off these drugs because they can't stand them anymore.
00:54:35.860 They go psychotic again.
00:54:37.300 They go back to the hospital and the merry-go-round goes around again, fleecing them for,
00:54:42.160 you know, $8,000 to $10,000 every time it spins.
00:54:45.100 And then they complain about the medical cost and the U.S. being out of control.
00:54:48.640 I would give these psychiatrists and this Western mental health system an F, a solid F minus.
00:54:57.280 They're worthless.
00:54:58.780 They're more than worthless.
00:55:00.580 See, I disagree, Jerry.
00:55:02.200 I'd give them an A plus because if you're looking at something like this, it doesn't appear, like you said,
00:55:10.880 the correlation between psychologists, mental health psychologists, and suicide is on like a consistent level spiking up together.
00:55:18.200 I was like, yeah, if I wanted this to look this way, I would keep building this medical system.
00:55:24.140 If I, there's no, at this point, there's so much evidence.
00:55:27.940 Like we'll talk about the COVID vaccine or whatever.
00:55:30.280 There's so much evidence where it's like, it's clearly dangerous, clearly bad, but they keep pushing it almost as if the desired outcome is, you know, what they're at.
00:55:38.540 So, yeah, A plus for these guys for doing whatever evil shit that they're doing.
00:55:43.320 For executing an effective plan.
00:55:46.120 Wonderful.
00:55:46.280 What are the medical aspects of this?
00:55:49.300 Yeah, an effective deleterious plan to destroy the human race.
00:55:52.840 They get an A plus for that.
00:55:54.500 Yeah, they're doing quite well.
00:55:55.360 And for drugging down the entire population of the Western world.
00:55:59.680 I mean, they're…
00:56:00.240 Everybody's on SSRIs.
00:56:02.220 That's right.
00:56:03.120 And that don't work.
00:56:04.080 They're making, again, $14 billion a year selling those and $14 billion for anti-psychotic drugs.
00:56:11.920 We're talking billion, not million, billion.
00:56:15.500 And then when you come up with the SSRIs, it's actually causing people to have psychotic events.
00:56:20.620 Man, guys, the Nazis won World War II.
00:56:23.820 This is like the Nazis won World War II.
00:56:26.980 They're in contact with some kind of entities and they're actually in control of this government that's doing this.
00:56:31.760 That's the only way any of this shit makes sense.
00:56:35.080 Otherwise, your own government hates you.
00:56:37.100 There's an aspect of this that I really want to talk about, which is the fact that this entire time, schizophrenia and diseases that are, you know, mental health diseases that are like it are often described as hereditary.
00:56:50.100 And that would need to be completely revamped through this scope.
00:56:53.560 When I was younger, I explained to you that my aunt has these issues.
00:56:58.220 And I actually was in her presence one day.
00:57:01.540 I was very young.
00:57:02.380 I was a toddler.
00:57:03.540 And she was – this is before I think she was fully diagnosed and we just kind of thought like, you know, she's a little bit off.
00:57:10.180 She had a weird request.
00:57:11.740 She asked for me to grab her the silverware drawer.
00:57:14.020 So I go to grab her the silverware drawer.
00:57:16.580 I'm maybe five.
00:57:18.640 And strange request, I managed to pull it out of the drawer, you know, the entire thing.
00:57:24.060 And I'm walking down the hallway with it and I suddenly hear a voice.
00:57:29.260 I hear a woman's voice.
00:57:30.520 And it sounds like it doesn't come from my ears.
00:57:34.400 I knew this even as a child.
00:57:35.740 I didn't hear it with my ears.
00:57:37.280 But I heard it very loud and clear just within my own head.
00:57:40.500 But it was distinguishable as not my own voice.
00:57:42.780 This was a woman's voice.
00:57:44.340 She was monotone, not angry, not happy, none of that.
00:57:50.040 And she told me, as very matter-of-factly, that I was going to drop the drawer.
00:57:55.280 And suddenly everything became sort of distorted and like I got vertigo.
00:58:02.340 I would say, yeah, like vertigo.
00:58:03.700 And I dropped the drawer.
00:58:05.220 And the noise of the drawer snapped me out of it and my aunt was furious and it was a whole thing.
00:58:10.000 But because of that event, I was worried for my entire life that I was going to be schizophrenic.
00:58:16.500 And I became aware peripherally of this idea that there is sort of an age marker, 26 to 29 or something like that.
00:58:25.040 And if it doesn't manifest itself by then, you're good.
00:58:28.420 So, honestly, I didn't talk about it for a long time until I got over that hump.
00:58:33.740 And nothing ever happened since.
00:58:36.240 Everything's good.
00:58:36.780 I'm now 33 years old.
00:58:38.380 But hereditary is not the way that we should be looking at this situation.
00:58:43.640 It's not that they haven't found any evidence of hereditary.
00:58:47.760 But what they have found is something called familial spirits that run in the family.
00:58:53.340 Okay.
00:58:53.860 So, the schizophrenic creates the conditions in the child or family member for these entities to move in.
00:59:02.700 You know, there is no genetic marker for these things.
00:59:06.140 That's been disproven.
00:59:07.340 There is no biochemical imbalance, which is what they're still teaching in the universities.
00:59:12.860 I mean, psychiatrists are still graduating thinking that schizophrenia is due to a biochemical imbalance in the brain.
00:59:18.620 That was made up in the 70s, I think, by Eli Lilly when they came out with Prozac.
00:59:24.300 They needed something to explain why their antidepressant drug had an effect.
00:59:32.440 So, they go, well, it must be some kind of chemical something.
00:59:34.800 So, they made up this chemical imbalance theory, and they're still selling it today, even though it's been disproven over and over.
00:59:43.460 There's no actual study, right?
00:59:46.380 In order to prove that there's a chemical imbalance in the brain, you would almost need to have a sample of a brain.
00:59:53.460 And I would imagine, I mean, I'm clearly no chemist or biologist,
00:59:57.060 but you would need to do something on a physical level to determine what the normal levels of, you know, cortisol or –
01:00:05.060 And there's been no studies that were conducted like that that showed anything in the story.
01:00:09.700 No, there hasn't.
01:00:10.220 And that's one of the first things I –
01:00:11.720 But we've rubbed that narrative.
01:00:12.940 Yeah, that's one of the first things I noticed when I went to work at the state hospital.
01:00:16.820 They never gave any kind of test to determine what was out of balance or by how much, ever.
01:00:24.780 You know, and I'm like, well, if there's a biochemical imbalance, how come they're not given some kind of lab work?
01:00:29.580 Why not some kind of EEG or EKG or some kind of test to determine what chemicals are out of balance by how much?
01:00:38.580 And they're still not doing it.
01:00:39.980 Even though they'll tell you it's a chemical imbalance, you go to your psychiatrist, you ask them, how do you know it's a chemical imbalance?
01:00:45.780 What's out of balance by how much?
01:00:47.160 They have no idea.
01:00:48.980 I mean, it's just like throwing a dartboard.
01:00:51.160 They'll go, well, we'll start with this drug and then we'll see how that does.
01:00:54.420 And if that doesn't work, we'll try another one and we'll try another one.
01:00:56.920 They'll just go around the whole circle of drugs until they find one that seems to work the best.
01:01:01.480 They have no idea what the chemical balance of the brain actually is.
01:01:05.320 They don't know.
01:01:06.720 They don't know anything.
01:01:07.420 It's bullcrap.
01:01:08.720 It's incompetence.
01:01:09.600 It's bullcrap.
01:01:10.580 They did this to my wife.
01:01:12.500 She had to get some shot.
01:01:15.720 I forgot what it was for a virus that she's already had to work in a medical setting.
01:01:21.320 And this is just vaccine stuff.
01:01:22.920 And she goes, well, I've actually had this virus, so I probably have titers to it.
01:01:27.240 Can you check my titers before you just jab me up with whatever?
01:01:30.760 And they're like, the fuck are you talking about?
01:01:33.020 Just take this shot.
01:01:34.740 There's not even a thought.
01:01:36.380 And they could measure this very easily with a blood test.
01:01:39.600 So if something else is a little more obscure from the brain, they're like, we're not going to do that shit.
01:01:43.380 Just like whatever.
01:01:45.420 When I was a kid, I was diagnosed with ADHD.
01:01:49.680 This is how they diagnosed me.
01:01:51.320 They brought me into an office, a therapist, whatever it was.
01:01:53.940 They sat down with me and my mother.
01:01:55.560 I'm like, maybe this is unbelievable.
01:01:58.820 They looked at me and they're like, yeah, checks out.
01:02:00.960 No, I'm sitting there with my mom and the therapist or the psychologist.
01:02:05.740 I'm not too sure which one actually oversees this, hands me a packet of math problems.
01:02:12.620 And I think I was maybe like 12 or 11.
01:02:15.520 And he hands me a packet of math problems, sits me down, tells me to complete them to the best of my abilities.
01:02:21.060 While that's happening, he's discussing me and my performance in school with my mother in front of me, which is very distracting.
01:02:28.280 So I'm listening to what they're talking about, and I'm trying my best to fill out my inability to complete the packet to whatever standard that they expected me to be able to complete it was enough for them to put me on Adderall.
01:02:40.800 And so for my – I think I would have been 13 years old.
01:02:44.180 That's eighth grade.
01:02:44.780 For my eighth grade experience, I was on Adderall for a majority of that year based off of just anecdotal stories about my inability to focus in class and then my inability to finish a math packet in a timely fashion while they talked about me in front of me.
01:03:02.280 That was how I – and then essentially put me on meth.
01:03:05.140 Jerry, is this applicable like to – if we're to create another Nuremberg trial, like I don't want to implicate you in it, but like, man, there's so many people guilty of – just that story right there is baffling.
01:03:18.400 They're like, hey, kid, we're going to ruin your life if you don't do these math problems within this certain amount of time, and then they just go ahead and do it.
01:03:26.020 Let me tell you how bad it actually is.
01:03:29.480 And these are old stats.
01:03:31.220 These are very old stats.
01:03:33.220 God.
01:03:33.700 These are from 2017.
01:03:36.860 It's much higher right now.
01:03:38.780 In 2017, more than 7.2 million kids have been put on psychiatric drugs.
01:03:47.980 More than – it's like 622 – over 622,000 of these children are under the age of five.
01:03:57.820 Under the age of five on these major psychiatric drugs.
01:04:01.160 Over 80,000 are on ADHD drugs, which leads to meth in a lot of cases.
01:04:09.240 Over 38,000 of these kids under the age of five are on antidepressant drugs.
01:04:14.420 Here's the side effects of antidepressant drugs.
01:04:18.700 Nausea, weight gain, trouble sleeping, dry mouth, blurred vision, dizziness, anxiety, headache, diarrhea or constipation, sexual problems, fatigue, tremors, increased swelling, lower alcohol content, bleeding, lower sodium levels, vomiting, restlessness, muscle cramps and seizures.
01:04:37.840 And they're putting these kids on these antidepressant drugs.
01:04:42.340 And you wonder, does this help anything?
01:04:46.340 Does – are the – maybe these effects that I experience, these side effects that I experience, I would imagine that they line up with meth.
01:04:52.480 So what I experienced three things definitively was dramatic weight loss, loss of appetite and increased irritability.
01:05:00.720 And so that year I got into an incredible amount of fights.
01:05:03.580 I actually had to go to the Scared Straight program in order to graduate from middle school into high school.
01:05:09.400 And to me that sounds like – I imagine meth addicts are pretty irritable.
01:05:13.360 And I also see them getting very thin and they don't seem to be focused on eating very much.
01:05:18.040 No.
01:05:18.700 So, you know, with somebody who really has ADHD, you give them Ritalin or Adderall and they fall asleep.
01:05:26.780 It's the exact opposite.
01:05:28.940 So you were misdiagnosed and they kept you on an amphetamine as a kid for that length of time.
01:05:34.860 Now, get the amount of kids that are on antipsychotic drugs.
01:05:38.880 Over 85,000 kids are on antipsychotic drugs.
01:05:42.760 These are the drugs I was telling you about that destroy the person's brain.
01:05:46.400 So they're rotting out the brains of little kids that are under the age of five.
01:05:51.520 That's in 2017 and it's much higher now.
01:05:54.940 Imagine right after COVID that spike.
01:05:57.240 Jesus Christ.
01:05:58.280 Over 389,000 are on anti-anxiety drugs, which are addicting.
01:06:05.420 These are kids.
01:06:07.360 These people have no morals whatsoever.
01:06:10.020 I mean it's incredible what they're doing.
01:06:11.440 The root of this is to get children to adhere to a failing public schooling system, right?
01:06:19.160 This school system is broken.
01:06:21.000 The general public schooling system across the U.S. is broken in so many different ways.
01:06:25.460 Children are not finding it to be engaging.
01:06:30.820 It's not fruitful.
01:06:32.060 They're not – they don't want to be there, right?
01:06:34.200 This is essentially – many children describe it as prison, right?
01:06:37.100 This is a pseudo-prison system.
01:06:39.980 And because your child will not bend to the rules and adhere to the system properly,
01:06:46.480 then you go to a medical professional who says put your kid on meth.
01:06:50.740 It's almost like one government institutional system that is a failure or a complete success feeds the other.
01:06:58.520 Like in the education system, we can talk all day about what's wrong with it.
01:07:02.800 I homeschool my kids because I don't fuck with that stuff.
01:07:04.740 But it's like, yeah, it's a failure done on purpose to feed the next thing almost.
01:07:12.020 It's disgusting.
01:07:15.300 It's horrific.
01:07:16.640 I mean they want you dead and they want to have sex with your children and they think it's funny is what constantly comes in my brain whenever I think about this.
01:07:26.340 They think it's funny.
01:07:28.080 Yeah.
01:07:28.920 The duplicity is incredible, especially with their DSM.
01:07:33.140 It's the Bible for psychology and psychiatry, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, completely made up.
01:07:44.920 All these mental illnesses are completely drained up by this panel of psychiatrists that meets every couple of years and they just make these things up.
01:07:54.880 They vote them in and they vote them out.
01:07:58.000 You know, it's a complete work of fiction.
01:08:01.900 There is no test to test for any of the mental disorders in this group, in this book.
01:08:09.720 And it looks impressive.
01:08:10.920 You open it up and here's all these numbers and subcategories and it looks like some scientific thing.
01:08:17.340 It's far from it.
01:08:18.520 It's a joke.
01:08:19.100 You know, it's a series of behaviors that these people have pathologized.
01:08:26.700 You know, so, you know, every single one of the more than 296 psychiatric disorders in the DSM-5 and later have been completely made up.
01:08:37.060 The list of fabricated mental disorders appear to be increasing astronomically with each edition of the DSM.
01:08:43.380 They make more of them all the time.
01:08:45.360 They have to use these categories to charge insurance companies.
01:08:51.180 You know, in 1952, the DSM listed 106 psychiatric disorders.
01:08:56.700 In 1980, there were 256 of them.
01:09:00.820 DSM-5 lists 297.
01:09:03.920 And they appear to be fabricating more with every edition.
01:09:06.900 You know, two-thirds of the psychiatrists on the board that are making these things up are associated with big pharma.
01:09:17.000 They're getting kickbacks from big pharma.
01:09:19.640 You know, not one of these 297 medical disorders has a defining lab test or any other kind of test to diagnose what these things are.
01:09:28.860 There are no blood tests.
01:09:29.980 There's no lab tests.
01:09:30.920 There's no x-rays.
01:09:31.820 These are just classes of behaviors that are made up by psychiatrists and voted to be a mental disorder.
01:09:37.720 I think what's worse right now, too, is that – talk about a layup for the pharmaceutical industry and the medical apparatus that surrounds it – is that we are now in this epidemic of – I don't know if you guys have noticed this.
01:09:52.040 I notice it constantly.
01:09:53.720 People who are more than happy to self-diagnose.
01:09:56.980 There's like sort of a cult of personality that's developed around relating to or, you know, claiming to – oh, that's – like I can't tell you.
01:10:08.760 TikTok is inundated with this is how to know that you have ADHD.
01:10:15.120 Not only that, this is what – if you have this going on in your life or that going on – and it's some of the most benign, inconsequential things that they'll go.
01:10:23.840 Well, this means that you have ADHD or this means that you have that.
01:10:27.140 People are – there is a sort of a reward system, a cultural reward system set up around self-identifying as having a mental illness.
01:10:38.740 This is something that I've noticed like is rampant.
01:10:41.260 As somebody who was diagnosed when I was a kid, I find it horrible to just hear this.
01:10:46.940 There's almost a – it's almost become a fad.
01:10:49.000 That is, I think, an accurate way to put it.
01:10:51.320 What's that called?
01:10:51.820 Is it Munchausen syndrome where you have a –
01:10:54.740 You have a proxy or –
01:10:55.740 Yeah, yeah.
01:10:56.200 Well, you have someone abducted and then eventually they start to defend you.
01:10:59.760 They start to defend their abductor or abuser.
01:11:02.340 It's kind of like what's happening.
01:11:04.400 Yeah.
01:11:05.780 Leech trolls in the chat actually just said it.
01:11:07.480 Social contagion.
01:11:08.300 I think that is – that's what it's become.
01:11:10.720 These obscure, hard to diagnose, no test, no background for it, no actual evidence that there's a chemical imbalance.
01:11:18.740 These things have become social contagion.
01:11:22.660 And that is – I mean we're – not only are we one of – it's only us and I believe – where did they film Lord of the Rings?
01:11:29.880 Not Australia.
01:11:30.960 There's another place.
01:11:31.680 I forget what it is.
01:11:32.440 New Zealand.
01:11:32.660 New Zealand.
01:11:33.160 New Zealand.
01:11:33.660 New Zealand and the U.S. are the only two countries as far as I'm concerned.
01:11:37.340 I don't know if it's changed since I learned this that actually advertise for pharmaceuticals.
01:11:43.040 And so this is a payday for – you're doing the work of these pseudo-intellectuals, these medical professionals who would be diagnosing it.
01:11:54.640 You're doing it for them.
01:11:55.840 And you go to them and you go, well, now it's not – well, I saw a commercial and the commercial said if you experience A, B, C, and D, you may be – you may have this disease and may be eligible for this medication.
01:12:11.180 Now it's not even that.
01:12:12.920 Now it's happening for free.
01:12:14.660 Nobody has to pay the advertisers.
01:12:16.600 TikTokers are doing it.
01:12:17.980 It's on social media.
01:12:19.320 These people who aren't even paid by the industry are telling you that this is –
01:12:22.840 Yeah, they got the ball rolling.
01:12:25.460 Exactly.
01:12:27.180 Mr. Marzinski, there's a great question here in the chat.
01:12:30.080 I just wanted to ask you this.
01:12:31.640 They said, thoughts on Christians using the name and authority of Jesus to cast out demons.
01:12:36.480 There are many videos of this deliverance online and it's compelling.
01:12:39.680 And one of the episodes I was listening with Tony Merkel, a guy had a sleep paralysis entity on him.
01:12:46.240 He, like, mumbled the Lord's Prayer.
01:12:48.500 And he said it was similar to throwing a flash bomb in the room, how the entity reacted to him.
01:12:55.940 Just like vile has to get away.
01:12:59.040 That's exactly right.
01:12:59.940 I've seen it over and over again.
01:13:01.340 They can't stand the 23rd Psalm.
01:13:04.000 It's like burning them with a blowtorch.
01:13:06.520 You know, Psalm 91, they can't stand.
01:13:09.160 They can't stand going to church.
01:13:11.840 You know, I did a little study on that once when I was in the state hospital.
01:13:15.820 If the voices were very weak and the person went to church, they shut up.
01:13:20.960 They didn't say anything when they got in the church.
01:13:23.060 If they were moderate strength, they would just babble on so the person couldn't hear what the preacher was saying.
01:13:28.140 They're very strong.
01:13:29.420 They would drive them out of the church.
01:13:31.360 They'd jump in there and they would run out.
01:13:34.240 But, yeah, why would a hallucination be anti-religious?
01:13:38.160 Why would they react so vehemently to the 23rd Psalm?
01:13:41.600 I had one patient describe, he said that they react to the 23rd Psalm like worms thrown on a hot frying pan.
01:13:50.540 And several others of them have affirmed that.
01:13:54.680 They can't stand the 23rd Psalm.
01:13:56.960 Why would a hallucination do that?
01:13:59.960 Why would a hallucination be consistently negative?
01:14:03.100 Why wouldn't it be random?
01:14:04.300 Why wouldn't it be all over the place?
01:14:05.760 I mean, these things, if they're running patterns, they can't be hallucinations.
01:14:11.720 That's all there is to it.
01:14:12.920 There's a pattern to them.
01:14:13.880 Something is holding them to that pattern.
01:14:16.020 Something is proliferating that pattern.
01:14:18.940 The psychiatry just doesn't want to hear it.
01:14:20.780 Neither does psychology.
01:14:21.800 Even though, you know, those traits, those aspects that I read you about, that's, you know, what they're doing is, you know, the voices are energetic entities.
01:14:38.200 What they're doing is like if you've got a magnet, a big magnet, you can't see that magnetic field.
01:14:44.720 You can't hear it.
01:14:45.420 You can't feel it.
01:14:46.140 You can't taste it.
01:14:46.880 You can't touch it for all practical purposes.
01:14:48.800 For you, it doesn't exist.
01:14:52.240 So you get a bottle of iron filings and you put it on top of that magnetic field.
01:14:56.380 Now you can see the outline of the magnetic field.
01:14:58.980 Those patterns that I was reading to you, and we only read maybe 10 of them, there's 23 or more, those are the iron filings for these schizophrenic entities.
01:15:10.980 That's the operational definition.
01:15:13.780 That's what they are.
01:15:14.560 That's how they operate.
01:15:15.600 And what psychiatry is trying to do is like pouring Thorazine on top of a magnetic field and expecting it to dissipate that field.
01:15:26.380 You know, it doesn't work.
01:15:27.760 These are energetic entities.
01:15:29.220 They are not physical.
01:15:30.260 They don't respond to physical drugs.
01:15:32.640 What they're doing is dumbing down the brain so the whole body just becomes numb.
01:15:38.060 You know, these people are just zombies.
01:15:39.900 You know, and it's ridiculous, and the number of different mental illnesses that they make up every year is – I mean, look at some of these mental illnesses.
01:15:53.200 Mathematics disorder is one of the ones that are in – oh, you don't get – you don't do mathematics.
01:15:57.920 You don't like mathematics.
01:15:58.960 You've got a mathematics disorder.
01:16:00.360 You know, probably one of the first ones that got the worst case of that.
01:16:05.120 Caffeine intoxication disorder.
01:16:07.860 You know, you drink too much caffeine.
01:16:09.820 Oh, you've got a caffeine intoxication disorder.
01:16:13.540 Kids that are fighting with each other.
01:16:15.180 They're diagnosed sibling relational disorder.
01:16:19.480 You know, sexual disorientation disturbance or homosexuality.
01:16:23.800 Another one.
01:16:24.420 Here's Florence syndrome, being overwhelmed by the beauty, such as Florence, Italy.
01:16:31.400 The symptoms are feigning in dizziness.
01:16:33.960 The treatment is antidepressant drugs.
01:16:37.020 Oh, my God.
01:16:37.640 Honest to God.
01:16:38.480 This is garbage that these people are coming up with.
01:16:41.360 Paris syndrome.
01:16:42.600 Japanese patients experience this visiting Paris.
01:16:46.380 You know.
01:16:48.160 Southern Bell syndrome, I think they had in there for a while.
01:16:51.020 So, I mean, this is – you put 10 of them in a room and you give them a semi-complex diagnosis, you're not going to get the same diagnosis from them.
01:16:57.840 It's completely subjective.
01:16:59.940 You said that they're saying homosexuality is a disorder because they can't figure out why.
01:17:05.260 What do you think about this – the whole transgender thing that's happening here?
01:17:08.920 Because that has a very high suicide rate as well.
01:17:13.240 And it's also one of these things where I wouldn't be surprised if most of these people are having a – I mean, clearly, you're having a second dialogue in your head, right?
01:17:22.160 Something is telling you who you are.
01:17:23.100 Right, and it's telling you that you're not good enough the way that you are, right?
01:17:26.720 And so it kind of matches that characteristic there as well.
01:17:30.860 Yeah, but you look at that in the normal average day person with their thought stream.
01:17:35.440 How many of them in our normal thought stream are hearing stuff like that?
01:17:42.200 You know, oh, you're not good enough.
01:17:43.900 You just – that thought stream that you're listening to all day long, every day, is telling you stuff that you already know.
01:17:51.920 It's telling you bad stuff about yourself.
01:17:55.000 But who's the one listening?
01:17:57.240 If you think that thought stream is you, who's listening to it?
01:18:01.380 It's not you.
01:18:02.560 Are you saying the more – the more you, like, feed into it, the larger you open this portal for maybe more things to come in?
01:18:12.840 Or do you think some people are susceptible to – I guess we talked about the familial thing, where they might be more susceptible to the same entities or similar ones that are affecting their family?
01:18:25.780 Or perhaps even psychologists that are around this, they're constantly physically around these other people.
01:18:31.320 You might be, you know, just being spoken to or, you know, touched by these things.
01:18:37.260 Maybe there's something about the six feet that they were doing during COVID, right?
01:18:40.820 Like, everybody stay six feet away.
01:18:43.060 Keep your demons on that side of the room.
01:18:44.980 Your demons on that side of the room.
01:18:46.560 Well, that was part of the separation thing.
01:18:48.500 And the psychotic voices do the same thing.
01:18:52.300 You know, stay away from me.
01:18:53.380 I'm going to lock myself in my room.
01:18:54.860 I don't want anything to do with you.
01:18:56.720 I don't want to talk to people.
01:18:57.880 I don't want to do anything.
01:18:58.740 So separation is one of the things that they're after.
01:19:04.520 Dr. Marzinski, we're coming to this hour-and-a-half point, and I really do think it would be appropriate to discuss – we discussed Psalms 22, right, and how these voices and entities –
01:19:18.880 Oh, okay, 43?
01:19:20.860 23.
01:19:21.760 Oh, 23.
01:19:22.400 That's what I – my mistake.
01:19:24.260 What have you found in your practice that actually works for – and I imagine it's not a cure-all, right?
01:19:31.240 You're not going to find a solution necessarily.
01:19:33.940 But clearly the pharmaceutical industry has failed us miserably.
01:19:37.300 Is there anything in your experience that will actually –
01:19:40.880 Yeah, really, right?
01:19:41.900 What is it that will alleviate these experiences for these folks?
01:19:45.920 Well, the first one we talked about earlier, they have to realize that these – what the psychiatric mafia is telling them is a lie.
01:19:54.460 You know, and what the pharmaceutical industry is telling them is a lie.
01:19:57.580 These voices are not hallucinations.
01:20:00.960 They're entities.
01:20:02.260 They're parasitic entities.
01:20:03.640 They're putting bad thoughts in your head to create the negative lower vibration so they can feed off of you.
01:20:13.560 You know, if you had a leech on you, you wouldn't just sit there and look at it.
01:20:16.920 You'd want to get rid of it.
01:20:18.180 The voices get furious.
01:20:19.660 When I was working in the emergency rooms, you know, the patients that I felt I could trust, I would tell them what the voices were.
01:20:26.720 And that helped them immensely.
01:20:28.840 Now, then they realize it's not them.
01:20:31.520 It's something outside of them.
01:20:33.700 Because the voices when – the prisoners would ask them, who are you?
01:20:37.120 What are you?
01:20:37.600 The voices would say, we are you.
01:20:39.880 They want you to believe that they are you, that they're part of your thought stream, that you're going nuts.
01:20:46.220 And they are – these voices you hear in your head are actually you.
01:20:50.720 They're not.
01:20:51.620 There's got to be a separation.
01:20:53.040 That's got to be done first.
01:20:55.020 The second thing to realize is that they're liars.
01:20:57.720 They lie about everything.
01:20:59.080 They don't tell the truth about hardly anything.
01:21:01.800 You know, 98% of what they tell people are lies.
01:21:06.380 So Sherry, my co-author in this book, if you want to know more about this stuff, you know, how we came to the conclusion, you can go get this off Amazon.
01:21:16.720 You can get it off our website at jerrymarzynski.com.
01:21:19.620 There's a lot more information there.
01:21:22.300 But Sherry came up with the idea that – well, she cured herself this way – is by every time the voices told her some bull crap, she'd say, that's a lie.
01:21:32.560 That's a lie.
01:21:33.600 That's a lie.
01:21:34.160 98% of the time it was a lie.
01:21:37.780 So if you don't believe what they're saying, they can't get you.
01:21:42.560 They have to get you to believe what they're saying.
01:21:46.040 Okay.
01:21:48.200 So those are two things that can be done.
01:21:50.620 Jerry, when you're –
01:21:51.640 There's a lot more.
01:21:53.440 I know.
01:21:53.800 I'm sorry.
01:21:54.040 But when you're telling your patients this, like how – what's – not just the success rate, but like I could imagine this could get really tricky for these people,
01:22:03.440 especially if you're at like a low energy level and you're telling something, like I'm on to you.
01:22:09.260 There's probably going to be some kind of a fight.
01:22:12.080 Oh, yeah.
01:22:13.500 There's a fight going on.
01:22:15.000 There's a fight going on all the time because at some level, the person realizes that they're being pulled in a direction they don't want to go.
01:22:24.540 The only time there might not be a fight is the ones who believe –
01:22:29.440 So I did another study on what these people believe.
01:22:34.440 The ones who believe what psychiatry is telling, that these are hallucinations, there's nothing they can do about them except take their toxic medications.
01:22:42.900 They're the ones that are the worst off.
01:22:44.720 They're the ones that are least likely to succeed.
01:22:48.020 Then there's a middle group that are going, well, I don't know what they are.
01:22:51.740 I'm not sure what they are.
01:22:53.520 They haven't made the decision that they're hallucinations.
01:22:56.980 And then there's the third group that – the group that has the most chance to succeed are the ones that realize that these voices are not them.
01:23:06.240 They're not who they are.
01:23:07.540 They're coming from somewhere else and that they're the enemy.
01:23:11.860 They need to be fought against because what they're trying to do is take more and more control over the person constantly.
01:23:18.400 And if they can get you in prison in a negative environment like that, that's a hog's trough.
01:23:24.740 The prisons are a hog trough for these things.
01:23:27.380 You can feel it as soon as you walk in the door.
01:23:29.620 I worked 18 years in the psychology department of a major state prison.
01:23:34.740 And you could feel it as soon as you walk in the gate.
01:23:37.460 It's just like, ugh.
01:23:42.220 Prisons don't cure anything.
01:23:44.380 They're graduate schools for criminals.
01:23:49.520 At the end of the day, this is all a form of – we're experiencing spiritual warfare.
01:23:55.720 And if you're not aware that you're engaged in warfare, well, then you cannot mount a defense or an offense or anything.
01:24:03.400 You're just victimized.
01:24:04.860 You're just a sitting duck, right?
01:24:06.120 And so I could see that as being the most integral – the most important aspect of all this is to switch the mindset over from being a passive victim of your own psychology and into a much more proactive mode of you're actually being influenced by something that's not yourself.
01:24:28.720 And I think that that is also – it probably, if you can accept that, comes with this really high level of vindication, right?
01:24:36.260 Because previously you've been told on every level that this is just you.
01:24:41.600 There is no validity to this.
01:24:43.580 This doesn't exist actually except for in your own mind when I imagine for these people this feels very real.
01:24:52.640 And so it's a level of self-betrayal, right, to have to come to terms with the fact that this is just a hallucination.
01:25:02.500 That is incredibly demoralizing because then you now have to operate from a playing field of my perspective is incredibly faulty and unreliable.
01:25:16.300 I cannot trust my own senses or myself.
01:25:18.460 And it's isolating and it's demoralizing and to turn and say, no, something is happening to you.
01:25:27.160 This is very real.
01:25:28.600 You're being influenced by something that does not have your best intentions and in fact is waging war against you.
01:25:35.700 It has to give back an incredible amount of agency to these people.
01:25:39.820 Yes, and it does.
01:25:40.640 And I've had people contact me in my private practice that, you know, they said, once I found out that it wasn't me, that was enough.
01:25:51.420 I could handle it from there.
01:25:53.640 Wow.
01:25:54.600 You know, it's incredibly liberating for them to know that it's not them because we're taught from the time we're kids that every thought that comes into your mind belongs to you.
01:26:06.200 And that's far from the truth.
01:26:09.040 You know, Emanuel Swedenborg, Christian mystic, says none of your thoughts are yours.
01:26:12.700 They come in either from heaven or they come in from hell.
01:26:15.380 And you're the ones who chooses which ones you're going to pay attention to.
01:26:18.620 And the schizophrenic voices want to keep you tuned to the negative ones.
01:26:27.260 You know, they increase your paranoia.
01:26:29.620 They tell you people are after you that, you know, they can – they have – some of them have incredible power.
01:26:40.120 You know, they can do bad things.
01:26:41.680 I could feel them when I was working in the ear.
01:26:43.740 I couldn't see them.
01:26:44.540 I couldn't hear them.
01:26:45.900 But, boy, I could feel – it was like this icky, electrical, cold electrical energy.
01:26:51.200 There was no other feeling like it.
01:26:53.100 You know, when they were really mad at me, I could really feel it.
01:26:57.220 It was a little spooky.
01:26:59.420 But, yeah, they – you know, the first time – I saw they were running these patterns, you know, real quick.
01:27:06.020 So what I started doing was throwing monkey wrenches into the patterns when I was working in the state prison because in the state hospital, I couldn't experiment much because if they told the psychiatrist I was threatened, I had to keep a real low profile.
01:27:21.600 In the prison, I had a group of prisoners around me all the time who would tell me in real time what the voices were saying.
01:27:27.420 So I could try all kinds of stuff with them.
01:27:31.020 So I'd do all these experiments.
01:27:32.980 I'd say, here, try this.
01:27:33.780 Come back in a week and tell me what happened.
01:27:35.640 That went on for years, you know, close to 18 years.
01:27:38.660 And I'd find all these things that would mess up their patterns.
01:27:42.340 And then one day they started coming in and going, the voices don't like what you're doing.
01:27:48.000 You know, they don't like you.
01:27:49.900 They don't want us coming here.
01:27:50.960 They're telling me not to come here, to blow it off, that you're crazy, you're stupid, don't come here.
01:27:57.380 And I found that interesting.
01:27:59.800 One after another would start saying, the voices don't like you.
01:28:02.720 They don't like what you're doing.
01:28:04.880 Then one day, one guy turned around in the doorway and he said, you realize what you're doing is dangerous, don't you?
01:28:11.700 Messing with the voices.
01:28:13.220 And I just looked at him.
01:28:14.720 I'd never thought about it.
01:28:16.220 You know, I've been, well, they're stuck in their heads.
01:28:18.720 They can't come out and get me.
01:28:20.200 They're stuck in their heads.
01:28:21.680 But I listened to it.
01:28:22.820 I mean, I kept it in the back of my mind because it was so odd.
01:28:26.940 I mean, he just turned around as he was about to leave.
01:28:29.460 He looked me straight in the eye and he goes, you realize what you're doing is dangerous, don't you?
01:28:33.500 And I just stared at him like, no, I hadn't considered that.
01:28:39.300 So that same guy came back a few weeks later without a pass, knocked on my door in the psych department.
01:28:47.320 He said, the voices want to talk to you.
01:28:50.200 Now, that had never happened before.
01:28:52.520 I'd never spoken to them directly.
01:28:54.320 It was always the patient would tell me, the voices are telling me this, this is what they're saying.
01:28:59.460 And then I'd tell him, well, go tell them to stick their head in the toilet or whatever.
01:29:03.200 I mean, it would go that way.
01:29:05.220 They never spoke to me directly.
01:29:07.980 And this guy, and I asked this guy, I said, they want to talk to me personally?
01:29:11.580 He said, yeah, they want to talk to you personally.
01:29:13.480 And that kind of took me aback.
01:29:16.880 This is where my denial system completely collapsed.
01:29:19.980 I mean, it was already in shambles because I had overwhelming evidence that these things were, they were entities.
01:29:26.860 They weren't hallucinations.
01:29:27.820 But I kept denying it.
01:29:28.980 I didn't want to see it.
01:29:29.800 I didn't want to hear it.
01:29:30.600 I didn't want to go there.
01:29:33.020 So I kept pushing it off and pushing it off.
01:29:35.120 And, oh, it's something with their subconscious.
01:29:37.380 So I invited this guy in.
01:29:38.900 And we both sat down.
01:29:40.420 I said, OK, what do they got to say?
01:29:42.400 And these words came out of his mouth.
01:29:44.660 You have no right to interfere with our way of life.
01:29:49.060 Boom, my head just exploded.
01:29:53.000 It was like, so they are entities.
01:29:55.120 They aren't something.
01:29:56.380 They are separate entities in this guy's.
01:30:01.020 And this guy went, that wasn't me.
01:30:02.960 That was them.
01:30:05.240 Was it a threat?
01:30:06.880 Like, you have no right?
01:30:08.260 Or were they just like, were they complaining?
01:30:10.600 Like, how they thought that would work.
01:30:13.240 Well, it blew my mind.
01:30:16.480 I mean, I shut down the office.
01:30:17.780 I didn't see anybody the rest of that day.
01:30:20.020 It was like my denial system had completely collapsed, you know.
01:30:24.360 And it took me a few weeks to kind of shake that off.
01:30:28.660 But I knew at that point that these were entities.
01:30:31.300 They weren't hallucinations.
01:30:32.520 They weren't some figment of the subconscious mind.
01:30:35.260 They weren't some, you know, made-up bullcrap.
01:30:37.840 That they were actual entities that could think and could speak and could reason to some degree.
01:30:44.800 You know, so that didn't stop me.
01:30:49.220 You know, it just shook me up really bad.
01:30:51.700 I mean, it shook me up.
01:30:52.840 My denial system.
01:30:53.840 Now I'm dealing with entities.
01:30:55.540 But I didn't have any map, any cognitive map of where I was going or the territory I was entering into or what the roadmap was.
01:31:05.640 It was just complete unexplored territory.
01:31:07.720 I had no idea where I was going.
01:31:10.200 And there was nobody to talk to.
01:31:12.020 I couldn't talk to anybody about any of this stuff.
01:31:14.540 I had to keep it to myself.
01:31:15.760 And there were times I felt like I was going crazy.
01:31:18.440 So the next big thing that happened is this same guy.
01:31:22.820 I was reading a book called The Voice of Knowledge by Miguel Ruiz.
01:31:27.060 I mean, anybody who's interested in mental health ought to read this.
01:31:29.760 And it was talking about these things being parasitic entities.
01:31:35.220 And I called this guy back in again.
01:31:39.240 It was weeks later.
01:31:41.440 And I started, I said, I want your opinion of what this guy had to say.
01:31:45.720 And I had a paragraph kind of highlighted.
01:31:48.180 And I did that all the time.
01:31:49.300 I would bring stuff in.
01:31:50.380 I would ask schizophrenics thousands of questions about everything.
01:31:54.860 I mean, constantly I was asking them questions.
01:31:56.920 And, you know, they trusted me and I was getting a lot of information.
01:32:01.680 It would have been a great podcast.
01:32:03.380 You messed up, man.
01:32:04.620 That's a number one.
01:32:05.520 Well, you know what?
01:32:06.120 I do have transcripts.
01:32:08.180 I have word-to-word transcripts.
01:32:10.400 We can do that another time to actually take you there.
01:32:13.760 But what happened this time was the same guy that warned me, you know, what you're doing is dangerous.
01:32:20.980 I said, I'd like your opinion on this.
01:32:23.280 This shaman is saying these things are parasitic entities.
01:32:28.580 You know, I didn't say that at the time.
01:32:30.420 But I'd like your opinion of this.
01:32:31.820 I started reading it.
01:32:33.260 And when it got to the point where it actually spoke about these voices being parasitic entities, he got glazed over.
01:32:43.140 He sat there just like a zombie.
01:32:48.080 You know, I looked up at him and I'm like, what do you think?
01:32:50.280 And he's just staring at me.
01:32:51.500 And then I heard this crackle erupt behind my head.
01:32:56.240 It was like it sounded just like an electrical welding torch.
01:33:01.120 You know, that kind of crackle.
01:33:02.200 It was a loud electrical crackle.
01:33:04.260 And it exploded right from behind my head.
01:33:07.300 And I'm like, what?
01:33:09.320 You know, it's like, what the hell's happening?
01:33:11.100 And then I hear it jump to the wall on my right-hand side.
01:33:14.580 And it's crackling loudly.
01:33:16.380 And I'm staring at the wall where the noise is coming from.
01:33:19.120 But I was afraid to take my vision off of this guy because I was thinking he's going to attack.
01:33:24.620 So I pushed my chair against the wall just in case he does so I could kick him off because all they had was female guards in the medical unit at that time.
01:33:32.260 They would have been useless in a fight.
01:33:34.160 So I'm switching my attention between him and this crackle.
01:33:38.840 And it's going up my right-hand office wall like crack, crack, crack, crack, crack.
01:33:43.120 I don't see anything.
01:33:44.460 I don't smell anything.
01:33:45.940 I just hear it.
01:33:47.000 And it's very loud.
01:33:47.960 And it's persisting.
01:33:49.480 And I'm swinging my attention between him and this crackle.
01:33:52.840 It goes up to the top of the ceiling and then starts cutting over the ceiling to the left, over to the left wall.
01:33:59.760 So I could see the patient and I could hear the crackling at the same time.
01:34:04.200 I couldn't see anything.
01:34:06.260 But it went on for a good minute or two.
01:34:10.360 I mean, it wasn't just brief.
01:34:11.900 It just kept going on and on and on.
01:34:14.240 And then it started coming down the left-hand wall right for me because I was up against the left-hand wall.
01:34:19.780 And it jumps into this Rubbermaid trash can to my left and it's crackling in that trash can.
01:34:25.380 And I bend over and I look and there's nothing in there.
01:34:28.120 The inmate Porter had cleaned it the night before.
01:34:30.820 It's completely empty.
01:34:31.920 And this thing, whatever it is, is crackling in there.
01:34:34.320 But I don't see anything.
01:34:36.500 And I'm, like, blown away.
01:34:37.880 I'm, like, what the freak is going on?
01:34:40.720 And I'm, like, blown away.
01:34:44.360 And then this guy slowly gets up and he goes, I got to leave.
01:34:51.440 And I'm, like, go get the hell out of here, man.
01:34:54.660 Go.
01:34:54.980 You know, I was just so relieved.
01:34:58.120 To see him leave the office and walk down the hall.
01:35:01.060 So after he'd left, I searched the walls.
01:35:03.540 I mean, is there any burn marks?
01:35:04.820 Is there any evidence of what I just heard?
01:35:06.860 Of course, I couldn't tell anybody about this.
01:35:09.760 You know, there's nobody.
01:35:10.880 I think I was a nutcase.
01:35:13.120 So after I'd checked the walls, I didn't see any burn marks or any evidence that anything had ever happened.
01:35:19.320 I walked out into the hallway and I started looking at all the doctors and nurses' offices.
01:35:23.760 Nobody was in there.
01:35:25.340 There was no cause for this.
01:35:27.800 You know, and I'm just completely blown away.
01:35:31.060 I mean, I didn't see anybody the rest of that day.
01:35:33.380 I just closed my door and canceled all my appointments.
01:35:36.380 And my mind was just warped.
01:35:39.060 And it took me three or four months to get enough courage to call this guy back.
01:35:44.540 You know, and I eventually did it.
01:35:47.400 He looked good when he came through the door.
01:35:48.980 I thought he'd be a wreck.
01:35:49.840 I thought he'd be a total wreck.
01:35:51.700 You know, and I told him that.
01:35:53.340 I said, you look good.
01:35:54.640 He goes, no, I've been doing what you told me.
01:35:56.660 I haven't gotten rid of them, but I'm able to hold them off to a certain degree.
01:36:00.320 You know, so they haven't taken over, but I haven't gotten rid of them.
01:36:04.140 And I said, well, sit down.
01:36:06.560 I want to ask you some questions.
01:36:08.140 I said, you remember the last time you were in here?
01:36:10.880 Did you hear that crackling noise?
01:36:13.280 He goes, yeah, I heard it.
01:36:14.560 And he said, but I was surprised you did.
01:36:17.200 And I said, you know, what the blazes was that?
01:36:22.140 And he said, that's them.
01:36:24.160 I said, them who, the voices?
01:36:25.860 He goes, yeah, they were the voices.
01:36:28.040 And I said, well, what in the Dickens were they doing?
01:36:31.220 He said, they were trying to scare you off.
01:36:33.920 And I said, they did one hell of a job of it.
01:36:36.900 You know, so, yeah, we talked a little bit more.
01:36:41.380 And, you know, that's the first time I've ever experienced anything like that.
01:36:45.960 And I was shooken up because it's like, I have no cognitive map of where this is going.
01:36:51.240 Where is this going?
01:36:53.500 So I said, you looked really strange when you left my office.
01:37:00.020 I mean, you looked like a zombie.
01:37:01.280 I said, what were the voices telling you at the time you got up and left my office?
01:37:04.720 He said, they were telling me to go get a shank and stick it in your gut.
01:37:09.240 Holy shit.
01:37:09.560 And I'm thinking, oh, he wouldn't do that.
01:37:11.700 I've been working with him for six months.
01:37:13.640 He wouldn't do anything like that.
01:37:15.260 He's an okay guy, although he's a little strange.
01:37:17.620 He wouldn't do that.
01:37:18.820 And I said, well, why didn't you do it?
01:37:21.000 And he said, I couldn't find one and nobody would give me one.
01:37:26.040 That warped my head.
01:37:27.260 And I'm like going, where is this going?
01:37:30.040 I don't have any map of this territory.
01:37:31.980 I don't know what this is.
01:37:34.440 It's like entering, it must have been like when Columbus sailed for the New World or something.
01:37:39.520 I mean, it was like, where am I going?
01:37:40.960 And I couldn't talk to anybody about this.
01:37:42.640 There was nobody to ask.
01:37:44.860 There was nobody to talk to.
01:37:47.220 Finally, maybe a few years later, my co-author for the book, I'd known her for 10 years before
01:37:55.980 I started telling her one day about a patient I was working with.
01:37:59.620 And she goes, oh, I know all about that.
01:38:02.540 I heard voices when I was a young woman.
01:38:05.200 And I'm like, I can't believe it.
01:38:07.200 So I started hammering her with all kinds of questions that only somebody who heard the
01:38:11.880 voices would be able to answer.
01:38:13.880 And bam, bam, bam, one after another, one after another, she answered those questions.
01:38:18.360 There was no doubt that she had experienced the voices.
01:38:20.920 And she's one of the most spiritual people I've ever known.
01:38:23.320 And Sherry Sweeney, my co-author in the book, An Amazing Journey into the Psychotic Mind.
01:38:29.280 And then I had somebody I could finally talk to about the voices.
01:38:32.540 She understood.
01:38:33.280 You know, so I couldn't talk to my wife because she'd go, oh, no, you shouldn't be poking
01:38:40.400 into the heads of these psychotic killers.
01:38:42.420 Don't do that.
01:38:43.480 I'm this man.
01:38:44.200 So I couldn't talk to her.
01:38:45.880 I couldn't talk to, you know, my psych friends because they didn't believe in that.
01:38:49.460 They all believed that the voices were hallucinations.
01:38:51.760 I had nobody to talk to for years.
01:38:53.800 And there were times like this where I felt I was actually going crazy.
01:38:57.860 You know, it was very, very isolating, very, very lonely place to be.
01:39:06.980 Wow.
01:39:07.560 Well, Jerry, we're coming up on time here.
01:39:10.440 And let me just say something to you.
01:39:11.740 I mean, I'm obviously younger and way less educated than you, but I feel like all that
01:39:16.700 craziness that you felt is going to be, obviously, it's going to be fully redeemed, if not already
01:39:23.260 in your eyes, as we get to the times of, like, you know, things will be as they were in the days
01:39:28.500 of Noah, this sort of stuff, that we're quickly coming upon this time where people are, I feel like
01:39:33.720 people are waking up and also realizing this from your point of view.
01:39:39.620 They're seeing what you saw 20, 30 years ago.
01:39:42.660 And unfortunately, it wasn't your time back then.
01:39:45.200 But I feel like, unfortunately, it might be our time.
01:39:48.500 So thank you for, like, coming on.
01:39:51.300 And this is just a fact, I feel like I could talk to you for another five hours, but what
01:39:55.060 a fascinating subject.
01:39:56.240 I'm like, what you're doing to kind of enlighten the people listening and just anyone who can
01:40:02.540 hear what you're saying of what is going on today and how much has proliferated and where
01:40:08.660 we're headed and perhaps a way to battle it.
01:40:12.740 You know, I think that's the most important thing.
01:40:15.120 Well, people can go to my website at jerrymarzinski.com, then go to articles.
01:40:19.780 There's things that they can do themselves there.
01:40:23.680 Okay.
01:40:24.040 Now, don't forget about MACE.
01:40:26.160 I mean, psychiatry should be replaced by this MACE energy method.
01:40:30.200 I mean, it actually works and it works quickly and it actually solves and gets rid of psychological
01:40:36.040 problems.
01:40:37.140 Again, the website is www.maceenergymethod.com backslash about backslash.
01:40:45.880 There's MACE therapists there, including myself.
01:40:49.900 This will be, I'm going to, if you could send me the links, I think you might have already.
01:40:53.440 I'm going to put this in the, in the description to all the videos so people can just go and
01:40:57.860 click.
01:40:58.080 Cause I know people are lazy typing stuff in, but this it's important.
01:41:00.940 Okay.
01:41:03.100 I'll, I'll send it to you.
01:41:04.960 Thank you.
01:41:05.720 I appreciate that.
01:41:06.440 Okay, guys.
01:41:07.020 Thanks for, thanks for having me on.
01:41:08.820 Um, maybe someday in future we can, we'll go through those transcripts so you can actually
01:41:14.200 see what these conversations between what, what the system considered criminally insane
01:41:20.700 patients and myself looked like.
01:41:24.040 It's fascinating stuff.
01:41:25.580 I would, I would love to.
01:41:27.840 Yeah.
01:41:28.520 Um, thank you again.
01:41:29.800 And we're going to, I'm going to let you get out of here, man.
01:41:32.120 David, anywhere, anything you want to plug before we go?
01:41:34.760 No, just thank you for your time.
01:41:36.380 Uh, Dr. Marzinski, this was, uh, uh, genuinely a pleasure.
01:41:40.460 A dream come true.
01:41:41.740 Okay.
01:41:42.560 Send me, send me a link when you have it guys.
01:41:45.500 All right.
01:41:45.880 We'll do.
01:41:46.320 Thank you.
01:41:47.320 Have a, have a good day guys.
01:41:48.260 We'll see you, uh, soon.
01:41:50.260 Peace out.
01:41:50.760 The greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.
01:41:57.060 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.
01:42:00.840 You can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see.
01:42:05.960 Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's
01:42:12.920 happening.
01:42:14.040 And they have.
01:42:20.760 Thank you.