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00:00:27.940 Welcome back guys to another episode

00:00:29.740 of Nephilim Death Squad.

00:00:31.300 Before we get started, I just want to...

00:00:33.620 I just wanted to give you guys a heads up.

00:00:38.100 Don't forget to go to YouTube or Rumble.

00:00:42.080 If you guys are fans of the show,

00:00:43.340 don't forget to subscribe, right?

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00:00:52.100 drop your boys a five-star review and rating.

00:00:55.260 Actually, you know what we should do?

00:00:56.800 And we're not going to do it right now,

00:00:57.900 but we should start reading some of these reviews.

00:00:59.740 Because we get some pretty cool reviews.

00:01:01.680 So if you leave a five-star review,

00:01:03.700 we'll read it on air sooner or later.

00:01:06.040 But if you want to see the show grow,

00:01:07.720 go ahead and go do that.

00:01:09.080 Maybe.

00:01:09.420 Maybe if we get around to it.

00:01:10.740 If we remember.

00:01:14.480 Also, if you're looking for another way

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00:01:22.840 And you can join up at the $3 tier

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00:01:32.580 And we don't know what those tiers get you yet.

00:01:34.780 But keep an eye out in the Patreon

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00:01:42.320 to get a little discount,

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00:01:45.900 So that'll be exclusive to the Patreon subscribers.

00:01:47.740 And while I got you guys here,

00:01:48.960 I would like to shout out a few names

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00:01:53.620 Thank you to Brandon Sins,

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00:02:02.820 Patrick is actually at the $10 a month ranking,

00:02:07.440 which gets him Nephilim Hunter.

00:02:08.860 We don't know what that means yet.

00:02:10.780 Maya Miranda.

00:02:11.360 It gets a rough, but thank you.

00:02:13.340 Thank you very much, Pat.

00:02:15.340 MK Ryan.

00:02:16.300 Dan.

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00:02:21.940 Julia.

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00:02:25.060 These are all people who have signed up really recently.

00:02:27.360 So I want to give you guys a big shout out.

00:02:28.860 Thank you so much for the support.

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00:03:11.700 Oh, yeah.

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00:03:15.820 we're going to do a promo code

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00:04:56.860 Top, you've been using

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00:05:01.060 I use it all the time.

00:05:02.400 I have...

00:05:02.800 Yeah, he actually sent me this one.

00:05:04.100 So I have used this one.

00:05:06.020 I have the smaller one

00:05:07.200 and I have the middle one.

00:05:09.000 I'll just show it over here real quick.

00:05:10.640 Hold on.

00:05:12.520 Yeah, these are things

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00:05:33.800 We talk a lot about frequencies

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00:05:40.880 that we're aligned with somebody

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00:05:46.340 Oh, and the Rife Shield comfort blankets.

00:05:48.200 How cool is that too?

00:05:49.060 I actually have mine.

00:05:50.800 Ah, damn it.

00:05:51.460 I don't have it next to me.

00:05:52.580 I had it next to me.

00:05:53.440 Where'd it go?

00:05:53.900 Maybe I do.

00:05:54.380 I do.

00:05:54.680 Never mind.

00:05:54.980 I keep mine.

00:05:55.460 You don't keep it over your nuts.

00:05:57.140 I keep mine over my nuts

00:05:58.180 whenever I'm podcasting

00:06:00.280 just in case the government

00:06:01.460 wants to try to see it.

00:06:02.740 Maybe I'll wrap one around my head

00:06:03.960 like a Koofy or something like that. 0.94

00:06:06.620 This is a new tinfoil hat, people.

00:06:09.340 So just go ahead.

00:06:09.880 You know, I feel like it's like

00:06:10.780 one of these kind of...

00:06:11.660 Yo, this is the new tinfoil hat.

00:06:15.340 It's the...

00:06:16.220 What is this called?

00:06:17.060 Like a chic or like a beanie

00:06:18.200 or something like that?

00:06:19.600 I don't know what it's called.

00:06:20.560 This thing is dope. 0.98

00:06:20.640 It's definitely racist.

00:06:21.640 But if you go to

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00:06:41.940 And all his products are...

00:06:43.400 They're geared around

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00:06:46.140 from harmful frequencies

00:06:49.080 and generating

00:06:50.380 positive, helpful,

00:06:52.680 therapeutic frequencies.

00:06:53.640 So if you're into

00:06:54.720 that sort of thing...

00:06:56.240 This thing specifically

00:06:57.520 acts as like a Faraday cage.

00:06:59.000 So I will put this

00:07:00.120 on my kids

00:07:00.760 if my kids have...

00:07:01.680 I don't like to give them my phone,

00:07:02.880 but, you know,

00:07:03.580 it's 2024

00:07:04.140 and they're going to use it.

00:07:06.460 So I'll put this over them

00:07:07.600 so it doesn't fry their testicles. 0.75

00:07:09.320 It blocks frequencies

00:07:10.760 from Wi-Fi,

00:07:11.880 from Bluetooth,

00:07:13.040 as...

00:07:13.320 Here you go, right here.

00:07:14.480 From Bluetooth

00:07:14.860 and from radio waves.

00:07:16.220 Yeah, it was...

00:07:16.860 Nobody uses radio anymore,

00:07:18.700 but, you know,

00:07:19.600 just in case any of that

00:07:20.400 shit's floating around,

00:07:21.560 this stuff will,

00:07:22.620 you know,

00:07:22.880 at least...

00:07:23.640 Minimize your exposure to it.

00:07:25.520 So consider it.

00:07:27.720 I like it.

00:07:28.500 It makes for a great hat too.

00:07:31.000 I actually lost a testicle

00:07:33.520 because of testicular cancer

00:07:35.280 and I can't help but wonder

00:07:36.820 if it's like...

00:07:37.960 I have this really nasty habit

00:07:39.320 of just putting my phone

00:07:40.360 in my lap.

00:07:41.140 If I would have done that

00:07:42.460 over a Faraday blanket,

00:07:44.780 maybe I would have

00:07:46.520 not lost my nut.

00:07:48.280 And so if you want to avoid...

00:07:50.400 I mean,

00:07:50.640 you want to try to protect

00:07:51.420 yourselves from these frequencies,

00:07:52.960 Wi-Fi, Bluetooth,

00:07:54.200 all these things,

00:07:54.720 we have no idea.

00:07:55.400 The jury's still out.

00:07:56.100 We don't know what these things

00:07:56.900 do to you over long-term exposure.

00:07:58.660 I'm sure we're going to find out.

00:07:59.780 I'm sure it's going to be terrible.

00:08:01.140 But you can be proactive.

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00:08:24.180 I think that's it.

00:08:25.840 Yeah, let's start the show.

00:08:27.080 What are we doing?

00:08:28.700 This is boring.

00:08:30.160 Start the show.

00:08:31.160 Play the music.

00:08:32.160 Play the music.

00:08:32.900 What do you...

00:08:33.700 Press play, David.

00:08:35.300 We have music.

00:08:35.920 I don't know.

00:08:36.280 What are you doing?

00:08:37.100 We have music?

00:08:38.500 And cut. 0.99

00:08:39.040 We are being hypnotized

00:08:45.260 by people like this.

00:08:48.400 News readers,

00:08:49.880 politicians,

00:08:51.360 teachers,

00:08:52.280 lecturers.

00:08:53.240 We are in a country

00:08:54.720 and in a world

00:08:56.100 that is being run

00:08:57.180 by unbelievably sick people. 0.70

00:09:01.760 The chasm between

00:09:02.720 what we're told is going on

00:09:04.120 and what is really going on

00:09:05.480 is absolutely...

00:09:07.600 Oh, yeah, dude.

00:09:08.600 There's some Reflam shit. 1.00

00:09:10.600 It's like we all know

00:09:11.640 what's going down

00:09:12.580 but no one's saying shit

00:09:13.580 what happened to the home

00:09:14.580 of the brave.

00:09:16.000 Motherfuckers, 1.00

00:09:16.660 they controlling us now

00:09:17.780 and no one's talking about

00:09:18.980 how they made us

00:09:19.560 try to be slaves.

00:09:21.020 And everybody's just

00:09:22.080 walking around

00:09:22.980 heading to clouds

00:09:23.700 and want to wake

00:09:24.300 into a dead in the grave.

00:09:26.220 By the end of too late

00:09:27.120 we need to be ready

00:09:28.100 to raise up.

00:09:29.000 Welcome to the end of day.

00:09:30.760 Everybody is slaved.

00:09:32.200 Only some are aware

00:09:33.320 that the government

00:09:34.180 releasing points...

00:09:35.120 Welcome back, everyone,

00:09:37.840 to another episode

00:09:38.900 of Nephilim Death Squad.

00:09:41.120 I am your host,

00:09:42.200 David Lee Corbo,

00:09:43.060 a.k.a. The Raven.

00:09:45.020 This is Top Lobster.

00:09:46.600 I hope everybody

00:09:47.280 had a lovely New Year's.

00:09:49.360 I know I did.

00:09:50.200 It was a very cool time.

00:09:51.540 There we go.

00:09:51.980 What's up, Marshall?

00:09:53.760 Joining us today

00:09:54.860 is Aiden of The Lore Lodge.

00:09:58.040 Aiden, before we get into things,

00:09:59.500 can you tell everybody

00:10:01.320 a little bit about

00:10:02.000 what it is that you do

00:10:03.160 and where they can find

00:10:04.540 your work?

00:10:05.740 Sure thing.

00:10:06.440 My name is Aiden Mattis.

00:10:07.720 I am a historian by trade.

00:10:10.380 That is my education,

00:10:11.820 my training.

00:10:12.780 And I make videos

00:10:14.340 about unsolved...

00:10:15.900 basically unsolved mysteries

00:10:17.500 for the most part,

00:10:18.440 whether that is

00:10:19.180 people who disappeared

00:10:21.060 under strange circumstances,

00:10:23.500 conspiracy theories

00:10:25.000 about the true history

00:10:27.260 of the world

00:10:27.920 being written down

00:10:28.660 in a book from 1965

00:10:29.840 and censored by the CIA.

00:10:32.000 It wasn't.

00:10:32.860 It was not.

00:10:33.600 It was just

00:10:34.140 the ramblings of a madman.

00:10:35.720 But yeah,

00:10:37.320 so that's kind of what I do.

00:10:38.620 You can find me

00:10:39.420 at The Lore Lodge

00:10:40.180 here on YouTube

00:10:40.740 or my personal channel

00:10:41.800 is just Aiden Mattis.

00:10:43.120 And that's where I do

00:10:43.740 some more streaming,

00:10:44.720 you know, reaction

00:10:46.180 and gaming stuff.

00:10:47.040 But yeah, so that's

00:10:47.640 that's who I am.

00:10:48.200 That's what I do.

00:10:48.660 I also have a background

00:10:49.700 in religious studies.

00:10:51.220 I am super excited, Aiden,

00:10:53.120 to have you on number one

00:10:54.600 and number two,

00:10:55.760 to have everything

00:10:56.420 that I thought before

00:10:57.640 or thought that I knew

00:10:58.860 completely shit on.

00:11:00.460 So this is like

00:11:01.100 just like five minutes

00:11:02.640 before the show started.

00:11:03.880 He's just schooling us

00:11:05.100 on the Nephilim.

00:11:06.440 I'm like, never heard that.

00:11:07.420 Never heard of that.

00:11:08.400 Never heard of that.

00:11:09.080 And I'm like, damn,

00:11:09.580 I don't really know

00:11:10.160 what I'm talking.

00:11:10.920 I feel like maybe

00:11:11.780 we should just end the stream now

00:11:13.140 because like we have no idea

00:11:14.680 what we're talking about.

00:11:16.000 So you want to get

00:11:17.620 the last words that he

00:11:18.600 he muttered before we started

00:11:19.920 was he was like,

00:11:20.620 number one,

00:11:21.060 that's not how you pronounce

00:11:21.900 Nephilim.

00:11:22.340 And number two,

00:11:22.920 that's a stupid fucking name. 0.83

00:11:24.280 You should rename the show.

00:11:25.340 And then we rolled right into it.

00:11:26.200 I said neither of those things.

00:11:27.880 Actually, history will prove,

00:11:30.480 Aiden, if we go back.

00:11:32.580 I did not say you should

00:11:34.680 cancel or rename the show.

00:11:36.820 That was you.

00:11:38.500 Could you actually

00:11:39.080 could you give the fans,

00:11:40.700 the listeners a little

00:11:42.140 like listen to

00:11:43.400 a little bit of what

00:11:44.420 you were just talking about

00:11:45.460 in the pre-chat

00:11:46.120 because you kind of ran

00:11:47.380 through the idea of

00:11:48.320 the name the Nephilim

00:11:49.340 and if that is even

00:11:50.720 accurate historically.

00:11:52.860 Yeah.

00:11:53.120 So the whole concept

00:11:56.140 of the Nephilim

00:11:57.060 is one of those things

00:11:59.120 that really for the past

00:12:00.040 2,000 years or so

00:12:01.340 has been relegated

00:12:02.960 to the upper echelons.

00:12:05.580 That's kind of

00:12:05.980 the ivory tower discussion

00:12:07.120 is you've got people

00:12:08.300 who are biblical scholars

00:12:09.720 sitting down

00:12:10.940 and they're like,

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00:12:11.800 what does this passage

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00:13:05.320 Not Old English, 0.96

00:13:06.260 but, you know,

00:13:06.540 early modern.

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00:13:11.880 and they look at,

00:13:13.400 all right,

00:13:13.740 well, here,

00:13:14.140 this text says this

00:13:15.780 and this one says

00:13:17.440 something different.

00:13:18.220 How do we reconcile

00:13:18.940 these?

00:13:19.320 How do we talk

00:13:19.820 about them?

00:13:20.480 And what you get

00:13:21.240 is suddenly this topic

00:13:22.880 that has been

00:13:23.800 pretty exclusively

00:13:25.300 reserved to the elite

00:13:27.480 within that group,

00:13:29.020 you know,

00:13:29.200 the priests,

00:13:29.880 the deacons,

00:13:30.360 the cardinals,

00:13:31.400 within the Protestant

00:13:32.500 churches,

00:13:33.080 you know,

00:13:33.200 some of the higher

00:13:33.760 level pastors,

00:13:35.220 elders,

00:13:35.680 and things like that.

00:13:36.960 Suddenly,

00:13:37.440 that is being discussed

00:13:38.600 by the common man.

00:13:40.500 And then with the

00:13:41.240 evolution of the internet,

00:13:42.360 it goes into overdrive.

00:13:43.960 And you've got,

00:13:45.120 all right,

00:13:45.320 well,

00:13:45.580 one person heard

00:13:46.380 this about Nephilim

00:13:47.180 and then went

00:13:47.900 and looked it up

00:13:48.900 and they got something

00:13:49.500 from another random site

00:13:50.680 and so on and so forth

00:13:52.020 until you have

00:13:52.740 millions of people

00:13:54.380 with different views

00:13:55.260 on what these things are.

00:13:57.120 The version that has

00:13:58.420 sort of made its way

00:13:59.420 into the public consciousness

00:14:01.520 is that Nephilim

00:14:03.040 are essentially demigods,

00:14:05.540 that they are the offspring

00:14:06.340 of angels

00:14:07.360 and individual humans.

00:14:09.740 And usually,

00:14:10.700 this splits into

00:14:11.160 two main camps.

00:14:12.040 One of them

00:14:12.480 is the ancient astronauts,

00:14:14.080 Zechariah Sitchin.

00:14:15.440 Like,

00:14:15.980 these were the people

00:14:17.700 from the planet Nibiru

00:14:18.880 who came down

00:14:19.760 and they created

00:14:20.660 human beings

00:14:21.340 as a slave race. 0.99

00:14:22.440 And these are the Nephilim, 0.76

00:14:24.200 you know,

00:14:25.160 because the Hebrew word

00:14:26.780 nephal means to come down.

00:14:28.440 So,

00:14:28.900 that's why these are

00:14:29.920 the heavenly beings.

00:14:31.180 These are the same thing

00:14:31.940 as the watchers,

00:14:32.580 essentially.

00:14:33.300 They're aliens

00:14:33.900 who came here

00:14:34.520 to enslave humanity.

00:14:36.260 The other view

00:14:37.020 is a bit more

00:14:37.700 the biblical side,

00:14:38.680 which is that

00:14:39.340 these were angels

00:14:41.360 who were assigned

00:14:43.380 to humanity

00:14:44.580 to watch over us,

00:14:45.940 to keep us

00:14:46.420 on the right path.

00:14:47.800 And that this group

00:14:49.060 called the watchers,

00:14:50.540 this is all from

00:14:51.180 the book of Enoch.

00:14:52.080 This is not in the Bible,

00:14:53.360 this is in the Apocrypha.

00:14:54.600 So,

00:14:55.280 in Enoch,

00:14:55.920 the watchers,

00:14:56.760 they decide,

00:14:57.660 I'm not really,

00:14:58.660 not really vibing

00:14:59.800 with this whole

00:15:00.560 just being a babysitter thing. 0.93

00:15:02.760 I think we could be gods.

00:15:05.240 And if we agree

00:15:07.480 that any punishment

00:15:09.720 visited upon any of us

00:15:11.180 must be visited upon

00:15:11.980 all of us,

00:15:13.740 God can't really

00:15:14.440 punish us all, right?

00:15:15.640 You know,

00:15:15.900 they can't arrest us all

00:15:17.160 if we try to storm

00:15:17.820 Area 51.

00:15:18.780 You saw it.

00:15:20.680 They do all get arrested,

00:15:22.600 and in this case,

00:15:23.300 being arrested means

00:15:24.180 that you are

00:15:25.000 chained underneath

00:15:26.440 a mountain

00:15:27.580 being basically

00:15:29.000 turned into

00:15:29.960 a rotisserie chicken

00:15:30.760 for all of eternity.

00:15:32.180 That's specifically

00:15:33.000 for the rebellious angels.

00:15:34.200 That's not what's

00:15:34.680 supposed to happen to us.

00:15:36.100 But,

00:15:36.860 that's kind of

00:15:37.440 the biblical view

00:15:38.040 is these guys came down,

00:15:39.440 they had children

00:15:40.100 with human women,

00:15:41.000 and those children

00:15:41.960 were the Nephilim,

00:15:43.080 these half-angel beings 1.00

00:15:44.640 who have extraordinary powers,

00:15:46.820 who are exceptionally large.

00:15:48.580 In Enoch,

00:15:49.180 they're like 10,000 feet tall,

00:15:51.060 and they have relations

00:15:52.520 with animals

00:15:53.540 and children,

00:15:54.580 and they eat human beings.

00:15:57.120 They're true,

00:15:58.600 genuine monsters.

00:16:00.060 The Bible itself

00:16:00.780 is a little bit more tame.

00:16:01.860 I'll read you the,

00:16:03.000 the literal translation.

00:16:05.000 It is,

00:16:05.760 this is Genesis chapter 6.

00:16:07.720 And it came about

00:16:08.420 that men began to multiply

00:16:09.620 on the face of the earth,

00:16:10.740 and daughters were born to them.

00:16:12.560 The sons of God

00:16:13.420 saw the daughters of men 0.99

00:16:14.480 that they were good,

00:16:15.400 and they took wives 0.82

00:16:16.300 for themselves

00:16:16.800 of all that they chose.

00:16:18.280 And Jehovah said,

00:16:19.160 My spirit shall not

00:16:20.020 always strive with man,

00:16:21.140 in their erring he is flesh.

00:16:23.080 And in his days

00:16:23.940 shall be 120 years.

00:16:25.800 The giants were in the earth

00:16:26.920 in those days,

00:16:27.660 and even afterwards,

00:16:28.960 when the sons of God

00:16:29.960 came into the daughters of men, 0.96

00:16:31.340 and they bore to them,

00:16:32.800 they were heroes

00:16:33.560 which existed from ancient time,

00:16:35.080 the men of name.

00:16:36.320 So the Nephilim

00:16:37.040 are clearly not

00:16:38.300 the guys that came down

00:16:40.820 from the sky.

00:16:41.660 They're the ones

00:16:42.300 that were born here

00:16:43.060 as a result of people

00:16:43.980 coming down from the sky.

00:16:44.860 Is this why, you know,

00:16:46.840 like human beings,

00:16:47.640 we seem to have this integral,

00:16:48.880 one of the things

00:16:49.420 that's part of our stories

00:16:50.560 over and over again

00:16:51.600 is like this idea

00:16:53.420 of banging the babysitter.

00:16:56.620 Like it's hardwired

00:16:58.100 into our psyche

00:16:59.500 is this idea

00:17:00.360 of having sex 0.55

00:17:01.040 with the babysitter,

00:17:01.920 and now it's starting to,

00:17:03.520 it's like a throwaway

00:17:04.480 kind of like cultural trope

00:17:07.000 that all of a sudden

00:17:08.100 I just found a home for.

00:17:09.500 And it now seems

00:17:10.480 much more important

00:17:11.420 than just some like

00:17:12.560 throwaway mechanism

00:17:13.400 in a Hollywood movie,

00:17:14.300 but it's actually

00:17:15.280 because they were

00:17:16.040 the worst babysitters

00:17:16.900 and they came,

00:17:17.720 eventually they were like,

00:17:18.460 I don't want to watch

00:17:19.240 these kids anymore.

00:17:20.740 Yeah, it's,

00:17:21.960 I'm going to fuck these kids.

00:17:23.880 Yeah, basically what happened,

00:17:25.340 I should, I should clarify

00:17:26.900 before anybody gets,

00:17:28.840 gets too excited

00:17:29.540 or gets angry at me.

00:17:31.960 The, the Enoch,

00:17:34.180 the Sitchin explanation

00:17:35.160 is, is pretty roundly like,

00:17:36.800 no, these are not aliens

00:17:38.080 who came down to this planet.

00:17:39.280 There is no mention of Nibiru

00:17:40.500 in the ancient Sumerian texts.

00:17:42.360 Sitchin did not know

00:17:43.080 what he was talking about.

00:17:43.780 That's kind of

00:17:44.240 the general consensus.

00:17:46.120 With the, the Nephilim, 0.73

00:17:47.660 the biblical issue,

00:17:48.480 it's a little bit

00:17:49.060 more complicated.

00:17:50.080 The, there's my camp,

00:17:51.840 which believes that

00:17:52.520 this is in fact

00:17:53.320 describing angels

00:17:55.000 coming down

00:17:55.700 and procreating 0.77

00:17:57.240 with human beings.

00:17:58.140 The other camp

00:17:59.240 is that,

00:18:00.140 and I have full respect

00:18:01.100 for this camp as well,

00:18:01.900 I just disagree with it.

00:18:03.020 The other camp

00:18:03.660 is that the sons of God

00:18:04.900 is not referring

00:18:05.660 to the angels,

00:18:06.640 but to the line of Seth,

00:18:08.680 whereas daughters of men 0.99

00:18:09.920 are the God,

00:18:10.420 the ungodly line of Cain.

00:18:11.820 I don't love that one.

00:18:13.600 My cousin's husband

00:18:14.460 came from that exact

00:18:16.600 angle at me,

00:18:17.880 and I was like,

00:18:18.500 that's the first

00:18:18.940 that I've really ever heard of that.

00:18:20.440 It's either people that are,

00:18:21.560 like, I have some aunts

00:18:22.760 that are pastors in churches.

00:18:24.060 They really,

00:18:24.440 they don't even look

00:18:25.400 into Genesis 6.

00:18:26.320 They're like,

00:18:26.740 we're more about salvation,

00:18:27.860 and that's like,

00:18:28.680 you know,

00:18:29.280 pretty widely spread.

00:18:30.200 It's either

00:18:30.520 in our camp

00:18:32.240 about salvation,

00:18:34.160 and now,

00:18:35.940 for the first time

00:18:36.860 I've heard that,

00:18:37.400 and I was kind of

00:18:38.080 perplexed by it,

00:18:39.000 and he said that

00:18:39.680 it was from the line

00:18:41.100 of Seth.

00:18:41.660 I'm not exactly sure

00:18:42.560 what,

00:18:44.000 break that down,

00:18:44.780 what do they think?

00:18:46.580 Yeah,

00:18:47.020 it's,

00:18:47.520 so this is,

00:18:49.560 I'm not as well versed

00:18:50.680 in this explanation,

00:18:51.860 so forgive me

00:18:52.760 if I'm imperfect in it,

00:18:54.720 but their belief

00:18:55.620 is that

00:18:56.220 this is

00:18:57.440 a much more

00:18:59.040 symbolic kind of language,

00:19:00.220 and that

00:19:01.380 when we're talking

00:19:01.980 about the godly line

00:19:03.700 of Seth,

00:19:04.500 well,

00:19:04.800 they're godly

00:19:05.480 because Seth

00:19:06.580 was the replacement

00:19:07.420 son for Abel,

00:19:09.040 and,

00:19:09.580 you know,

00:19:10.220 Seth's people 1.00

00:19:10.840 were faithful,

00:19:11.940 and they did

00:19:12.280 the right thing,

00:19:13.140 and they tried

00:19:13.740 to live by

00:19:14.480 the,

00:19:15.240 whatever commandments

00:19:15.940 they had,

00:19:16.820 because there's

00:19:18.460 basically nothing there.

00:19:20.020 We have no idea

00:19:20.820 what the rules were

00:19:21.500 for these people.

00:19:22.860 There's just kind of,

00:19:23.620 you can infer,

00:19:25.300 well,

00:19:25.780 based on what

00:19:26.240 the Ten Commandments are,

00:19:27.200 they probably had

00:19:27.780 something similar,

00:19:29.120 and we know

00:19:29.600 that murder is

00:19:30.160 a bad,

00:19:30.660 that's not a good one.

00:19:32.200 Murder is bad.

00:19:34.080 That's basically

00:19:34.780 the first commandment

00:19:35.620 in the Bible

00:19:36.000 is don't kill,

00:19:37.860 or don't murder,

00:19:39.100 I should say.

00:19:40.440 Their argument

00:19:41.120 is that Cain,

00:19:42.360 because he murdered

00:19:43.120 Abel and was

00:19:45.000 put away from God

00:19:46.040 and forced to

00:19:46.640 wander the earth

00:19:47.140 for eternity

00:19:47.660 and so on and so forth,

00:19:49.260 that his children

00:19:50.720 were ungodly,

00:19:52.660 and that Seth's

00:19:53.580 children,

00:19:54.020 his offspring,

00:19:54.920 were godly,

00:19:55.760 and that what

00:19:57.340 caused the flood,

00:19:58.540 what caused

00:19:59.040 the wickedness

00:19:59.780 of man,

00:20:00.620 was that these

00:20:01.540 two groups

00:20:02.160 of people

00:20:02.760 began to interbreed,

00:20:04.400 which previously

00:20:05.680 had not been done,

00:20:06.880 and once they did so,

00:20:08.380 that inherent wickedness

00:20:09.680 in Cain's line

00:20:10.520 polluted the

00:20:11.740 godly purity

00:20:13.440 of Seth's line,

00:20:14.480 and that created

00:20:16.060 these men of renown,

00:20:18.320 these mighty men

00:20:19.320 who were capable

00:20:20.220 of great acts,

00:20:22.780 either of good

00:20:24.060 or of evil,

00:20:25.420 and that

00:20:25.920 God basically went,

00:20:27.900 eh,

00:20:28.240 this is kind of

00:20:29.140 an irretrievable situation,

00:20:30.440 we gotta start over

00:20:31.440 from scratch,

00:20:32.300 I'm gonna find

00:20:33.100 the one guy,

00:20:34.980 the one righteous guy,

00:20:36.740 and that's Noah.

00:20:38.300 Noah, of course,

00:20:39.540 there's this,

00:20:40.920 the common description

00:20:42.620 that you'll get

00:20:43.200 all through school,

00:20:44.300 Sunday school

00:20:44.980 and religious education,

00:20:46.720 you'll typically hear,

00:20:48.400 if you are not

00:20:49.660 in a scholarly setting,

00:20:51.960 if you're not

00:20:52.320 in a discussion setting,

00:20:53.200 you're just in a

00:20:54.460 classroom lecture

00:20:55.180 kind of thing,

00:20:56.160 what you'll typically hear

00:20:57.120 is that Noah

00:20:58.720 was the only

00:20:59.500 sinless man on earth.

00:21:02.700 Well,

00:21:03.820 original sin,

00:21:04.700 he can't be sinless,

00:21:05.800 so what does righteous mean?

00:21:06.880 Does that mean

00:21:07.340 he's the least

00:21:08.020 sinful man on earth?

00:21:10.160 Gets kind of

00:21:10.820 into the weeds here,

00:21:11.560 this is all getting

00:21:12.040 very vague and ambiguous,

00:21:13.500 how could that

00:21:14.040 possibly be the explanation?

00:21:16.120 The alternative

00:21:16.680 is that

00:21:17.900 what it actually says,

00:21:19.300 let me,

00:21:19.600 let me see if I can

00:21:20.660 grab this really quick,

00:21:23.040 um,

00:21:23.680 da-da-da,

00:21:24.520 all right.

00:21:25.460 Are we going into

00:21:26.220 this idea that

00:21:27.120 he was, um,

00:21:29.000 perfect within

00:21:29.800 his generations,

00:21:30.960 or?

00:21:31.420 Yes, precisely.

00:21:32.600 These are the

00:21:33.120 generations of Noah.

00:21:34.820 Noah was a just man 0.68

00:21:36.280 and perfect

00:21:36.960 in his generations.

00:21:39.000 That,

00:21:39.700 that terminology

00:21:40.740 is too specific

00:21:41.940 to be

00:21:42.640 accidental.

00:21:44.400 Yeah,

00:21:44.660 it's talking about

00:21:45.300 bloodline.

00:21:46.060 It's talking about

00:21:46.880 bloodline,

00:21:47.680 in my opinion.

00:21:48.560 So what that means

00:21:49.400 is that

00:21:49.960 Noah's family,

00:21:52.540 Noah specifically

00:21:53.220 at least,

00:21:54.540 had no,

00:21:56.020 either,

00:21:56.740 again,

00:21:57.100 this is either

00:21:57.640 the ungodly line

00:21:58.560 of Cain,

00:21:59.240 or the angels,

00:22:00.800 or the watchers,

00:22:01.740 he has none

00:22:02.900 of that DNA.

00:22:04.500 He's untouched.

00:22:06.060 Which means that

00:22:07.060 whatever inherent

00:22:08.020 sinfulness is in

00:22:10.120 the DNA of Cain's

00:22:11.760 line,

00:22:13.140 whatever inherent

00:22:13.780 evil is there,

00:22:15.200 Noah doesn't have

00:22:16.040 it.

00:22:17.040 And therefore,

00:22:17.520 his children don't

00:22:18.240 have it.

00:22:19.140 So you get,

00:22:20.260 you can start

00:22:21.080 over fresh.

00:22:22.340 There's, of course,

00:22:23.140 plenty of arguments

00:22:23.740 over how literal

00:22:24.500 is this story

00:22:25.100 supposed to be.

00:22:25.860 Was it really just

00:22:26.960 Noah and his family

00:22:28.080 on that arc?

00:22:28.980 Was it Noah as

00:22:30.020 the patriarch of a

00:22:31.080 tribe or a clan

00:22:32.260 that was on that arc?

00:22:33.600 Is it really two

00:22:34.580 of every animal?

00:22:35.620 Are we talking

00:22:36.120 about just the

00:22:37.000 local animals?

00:22:38.620 Was this perhaps

00:22:39.500 something more

00:22:40.060 complicated than

00:22:40.720 we're being told?

00:22:41.680 There's also the

00:22:42.120 question of when

00:22:42.640 did all of this

00:22:43.120 happen?

00:22:44.360 It also took him

00:22:45.060 120 years,

00:22:46.880 120 years to

00:22:47.820 build this thing,

00:22:48.580 which is.

00:22:49.100 So that's,

00:22:49.380 that's the other

00:22:49.860 thing is,

00:22:50.220 is that,

00:22:50.780 is that what that

00:22:51.560 is saying?

00:22:52.220 Or is it like,

00:22:53.840 this is the issue

00:22:54.940 with the Bible is

00:22:55.560 there's,

00:22:56.020 there's so much

00:22:56.620 time dilation.

00:22:58.300 There's very few

00:22:59.080 instances where

00:22:59.800 you're given a

00:23:00.340 specific set of

00:23:01.300 months,

00:23:02.160 you're at best

00:23:02.760 given years.

00:23:03.940 And even then,

00:23:04.720 it's hard to tell

00:23:05.480 if this is some

00:23:06.560 form of numerology,

00:23:07.740 some form of

00:23:08.280 symbolism.

00:23:09.080 Did Adam actually

00:23:10.480 live nearly a

00:23:11.340 thousand years?

00:23:12.240 Or is this,

00:23:13.820 you know,

00:23:14.520 Adam's tribe

00:23:15.440 lasted that long?

00:23:17.080 Like,

00:23:17.340 what does this

00:23:17.820 mean?

00:23:18.040 So with,

00:23:19.260 with regard to,

00:23:21.160 to the,

00:23:23.240 the timing,

00:23:24.260 it's unclear what

00:23:25.400 is meant by that.

00:23:26.140 It could be that

00:23:26.920 God was saying,

00:23:27.860 you have 120 years

00:23:28.960 to prepare.

00:23:30.000 Could also be that

00:23:31.120 God is saying,

00:23:32.360 mankind will no

00:23:34.100 longer live for

00:23:35.340 hundreds and

00:23:35.840 hundreds of years.

00:23:36.660 You're,

00:23:36.900 you're capped at

00:23:37.740 120.

00:23:39.820 You know,

00:23:40.460 there's,

00:23:40.740 there's a few

00:23:41.120 possibilities.

00:23:41.960 All of them have

00:23:42.620 pretty,

00:23:43.220 pretty good theological

00:23:44.260 backing for the

00:23:45.460 most part.

00:23:47.120 Those are the two

00:23:47.900 big ones,

00:23:48.400 though,

00:23:48.580 is either God

00:23:49.380 was saying man's

00:23:50.520 lifetime is now

00:23:51.500 shortened considerably,

00:23:52.720 or this is how

00:23:54.300 long you have.

00:23:55.860 Noah is supposedly,

00:23:57.880 he preached about

00:23:58.940 this and told people

00:23:59.700 it was coming and

00:24:00.220 nobody listened to him.

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00:24:30.180 One of the things

00:24:31.060 that I always find

00:24:31.780 compelling as far

00:24:32.980 the argument

00:24:33.620 of the Nephilim

00:24:35.540 being the mixing

00:24:37.220 of the human

00:24:37.840 women with the 1.00

00:24:39.340 fallen angels

00:24:40.040 is that you do

00:24:41.180 see that echoed

00:24:42.380 in Greek mythology,

00:24:43.620 right,

00:24:43.860 where it's like

00:24:44.340 that's how you get

00:24:45.180 all your demigods. 0.61

00:24:46.580 And I'm of the

00:24:47.900 contention that,

00:24:49.220 I guess contention

00:24:50.260 is a strong word.

00:24:51.260 I like to entertain

00:24:52.380 the idea that

00:24:53.480 these entities

00:24:56.100 could have existed

00:24:56.900 but they're just

00:24:57.960 renamed because

00:24:58.700 you'll find that,

00:24:59.380 right?

00:24:59.880 It's one entity

00:25:01.460 who's in charge

00:25:02.400 of, you know,

00:25:04.100 agriculture in the

00:25:04.960 rains or something

00:25:05.680 like that or

00:25:06.180 another one who

00:25:06.760 oversees, you know,

00:25:08.000 war and things

00:25:08.980 of that nature.

00:25:09.640 And these entities

00:25:10.360 you'll find a

00:25:11.920 representative of

00:25:13.380 those attributes

00:25:14.380 across many

00:25:15.460 different cultures

00:25:16.200 and I like to

00:25:18.120 toy with the idea,

00:25:19.040 it's certainly not

00:25:19.600 my idea,

00:25:20.600 that these are just

00:25:21.680 the same entities

00:25:22.900 going by a

00:25:23.680 different name.

00:25:24.860 And so when you

00:25:25.380 see, you know,

00:25:27.260 for example,

00:25:27.740 the idea of like

00:25:28.500 the seraphim,

00:25:29.480 right, this like

00:25:30.280 shape-shifting race

00:25:31.960 of angels,

00:25:33.160 and then you look

00:25:34.840 at Zeus,

00:25:36.880 who, what,

00:25:37.800 shape-shifts into

00:25:38.680 a swan,

00:25:39.560 I believe it is,

00:25:40.500 and then digs down

00:25:41.460 some lady 0.96

00:25:42.020 and she gives

00:25:43.240 birth to,

00:25:44.860 what is it,

00:25:45.480 is that how you

00:25:46.640 got, who's the

00:25:47.280 guy, Perseus?

00:25:48.060 I'm not sure if

00:25:48.660 that's how you got

00:25:49.180 Perseus.

00:25:49.760 I am so bad

00:25:50.720 on my Greek

00:25:51.220 mythology these

00:25:51.980 days, it's been a

00:25:52.660 long time since I

00:25:53.400 read Percy Jackson.

00:25:54.300 Yeah, I might be,

00:25:55.720 I might be mincing,

00:25:58.420 you know, the,

00:25:59.340 the formula for

00:26:00.480 one demigod over

00:26:01.400 another, but I know

00:26:02.600 that that is part

00:26:03.940 of the lore,

00:26:04.460 right, is that

00:26:05.060 Zeus, he transforms

00:26:06.860 apparently into a

00:26:07.920 very irresistible

00:26:08.780 swan, pays some

00:26:10.280 lady a visit,

00:26:11.060 she's like, I like

00:26:11.780 the look of this

00:26:12.300 swan, and then

00:26:13.960 gets dicked down

00:26:14.620 by the swan, and

00:26:15.220 then, you know,

00:26:15.700 that's where you

00:26:16.100 get your sort of,

00:26:16.860 once again,

00:26:17.280 you're men of

00:26:17.880 renown, you're

00:26:18.300 heroes of old,

00:26:18.880 right, and so,

00:26:19.720 this is a horny 0.84

00:26:20.420 motherfucker. 0.99

00:26:21.900 Yeah, he does a

00:26:22.840 lot of animal stuff

00:26:23.660 too, I just don't

00:26:24.340 know, like, that's

00:26:25.000 like, I don't know

00:26:25.540 what ladies were 1.00

00:26:26.040 into back in the

00:26:26.720 day, but he's like,

00:26:27.260 I know how to get

00:26:28.000 her.

00:26:28.460 While we're here,

00:26:29.400 while we're here,

00:26:30.300 let's just bring the

00:26:31.520 conversation right

00:26:32.280 over to some really

00:26:33.300 weird stuff.

00:26:35.340 Cryptids, are these

00:26:37.120 products of the

00:26:38.660 fallen, because like,

00:26:39.860 we know that they

00:26:40.300 like to do some

00:26:40.820 animal stuff, we

00:26:41.960 just spoke to

00:26:42.440 LA Marzulli, and

00:26:43.420 I'm completely

00:26:44.040 convinced that

00:26:44.640 they're doing some

00:26:45.520 kind of hybrid

00:26:46.120 breeding stuff, and

00:26:47.420 they've been doing

00:26:47.780 it for a long

00:26:48.260 time.

00:26:49.340 What are you

00:26:49.700 thinking about

00:26:50.220 this?

00:26:50.520 Have you covered

00:26:51.520 this?

00:26:51.980 He's flipping through

00:26:52.780 papers right now for

00:26:53.540 the listeners, so

00:26:54.160 yes, he's covered it.

00:26:54.960 I love that this

00:26:55.660 dude has like, just

00:26:56.740 he's got everything

00:26:57.660 you bring up, he's

00:26:58.400 like, actually, I've

00:26:59.160 got reference material

00:27:00.200 and he reaches over.

00:27:01.100 They're all within

00:27:02.100 I've never read them.

00:27:03.360 You can't see much of

00:27:04.400 it, because it's, I'm

00:27:06.100 going to wait for my

00:27:06.700 girlfriend to walk

00:27:07.180 past, but there's a

00:27:08.960 whole bookshelf right

00:27:10.600 here.

00:27:10.800 Oh my god.

00:27:11.480 There you go, and

00:27:12.480 he's just pulling all

00:27:13.280 his reference material

00:27:14.060 right from within range.

00:27:15.280 A whole station.

00:27:15.840 Yeah, these are all

00:27:16.300 my hardcovers.

00:27:19.440 Yeah, let me see

00:27:20.660 though, because it's, I

00:27:21.760 want to have one thing

00:27:22.560 up in front of me for

00:27:24.120 what you just said, but

00:27:26.200 yes.

00:27:26.920 Sorry, the husky, the

00:27:29.320 husky is speaking.

00:27:30.060 Oh, good.

00:27:31.100 Yeah, so for the, yeah,

00:27:33.360 for the, I'm blanking.

00:27:38.220 What were we talking

00:27:38.780 about?

00:27:39.160 We were saying the, the

00:27:40.420 yes, the idea of

00:27:41.380 cryptids, the breeding

00:27:42.080 experiment thing.

00:27:42.880 I think, I think it's a

00:27:44.200 super interesting subject

00:27:46.120 because the, the term

00:27:49.400 cryptid refers to

00:27:51.320 something that is, I

00:27:53.760 said to exist, believed

00:27:55.400 to exist, but science

00:27:56.800 has come up with no

00:27:57.800 proof that it exists

00:27:58.960 yet.

00:27:59.660 So this kind of applies

00:28:00.680 to things like Bigfoot,

00:28:01.960 the Chupacabra.

00:28:04.400 There's a, I guess a

00:28:06.280 Loch Ness Monster would

00:28:07.340 count for this as well.

00:28:08.980 Sort of those things

00:28:09.740 that are very well-known

00:28:11.520 folktales that seem like

00:28:14.160 they could be real, but

00:28:15.980 they're not, there's just

00:28:17.180 something in there that

00:28:18.300 it hasn't quite been

00:28:19.820 proven.

00:28:21.080 This is why things like

00:28:22.200 the Fleshgate and the 0.74

00:28:23.100 Rake are not cryptids.

00:28:24.460 They are internet horror

00:28:26.400 stories.

00:28:27.460 The Fleshgate does not

00:28:28.360 appear in any, you

00:28:30.020 know, there's no, you're

00:28:30.600 not going to go back to

00:28:31.260 1500, you know, search

00:28:32.820 through the woods and

00:28:33.720 find a little Native 0.69

00:28:35.080 American community that

00:28:36.460 tells you about the

00:28:37.040 Fleshgate. 0.50

00:28:37.700 It's just not going to

00:28:38.260 happen.

00:28:38.980 You might find them

00:28:39.780 talking about the

00:28:40.240 Wendigo though, which is

00:28:41.360 why you have

00:28:41.800 characteristics of the

00:28:42.620 Fleshgate that are so 0.99

00:28:43.420 similar to the Wendigo,

00:28:45.480 Skinwalkers, the Goatman, 1.00

00:28:47.380 all of these different

00:28:48.040 things that kind of get

00:28:48.600 mixed into one.

00:28:49.640 We have a video on that

00:28:50.460 actually.

00:28:50.880 It's basically titled

00:28:51.820 exactly that, like what

00:28:52.860 you get when you mix the

00:28:53.560 Wendigo, Skinwalkers, and 0.96

00:28:54.580 the Goatman.

00:28:57.100 So in my opinion, I

00:28:59.040 don't know that I would

00:28:59.540 necessarily say that I

00:29:00.560 think that there's a lot

00:29:01.540 of, you know, mixed

00:29:02.980 breeding projects going

00:29:03.940 on.

00:29:04.240 I will say I am not

00:29:05.980 opposed to the idea

00:29:07.580 that there is some sort

00:29:10.180 of force out there

00:29:11.000 creating weird stuff out

00:29:13.560 in the forests or in the

00:29:14.880 depths of the earth and

00:29:15.660 all of that.

00:29:16.660 But what I think is most

00:29:18.880 interesting to look at in

00:29:20.620 terms of what can kind of

00:29:21.760 cross that bridge between

00:29:23.080 people who are very

00:29:24.660 interested in the

00:29:25.460 supernatural and people

00:29:26.580 who are more interested

00:29:27.540 in anthropology and the

00:29:29.680 sciences behind it.

00:29:31.360 When you look at

00:29:32.320 something like Bigfoot,

00:29:35.140 what's Bigfoot's Native

00:29:36.380 American name?

00:29:38.440 Yowie? 0.97

00:29:39.740 Sasquatch.

00:29:41.380 Sasquatch.

00:29:42.740 Yowie is actually an 0.98

00:29:43.800 Australian one.

00:29:45.240 Not too far off, but yes,

00:29:46.640 Yowie is the Australian 1.00

00:29:47.420 one.

00:29:48.540 So Bigfoot's called

00:29:49.180 Sasquatch.

00:29:49.980 Well, that comes to

00:29:51.060 English from a even more

00:29:52.740 Native American term,

00:29:54.080 Sasquatch.

00:29:55.460 Sasquatch were believed

00:29:56.580 to be these large

00:29:58.360 humanoids.

00:29:59.580 We're talking six and a

00:30:00.500 half, seven feet tall,

00:30:01.940 who lived out in the

00:30:03.240 forests of British

00:30:04.520 Columbia.

00:30:05.400 And they were said by

00:30:07.040 the Chehalish people,

00:30:09.240 hey, these guys live out

00:30:10.920 in the caves.

00:30:11.940 Don't go near their

00:30:12.740 caves.

00:30:13.240 They're very dangerous.

00:30:14.120 They're very fast.

00:30:14.780 They're very strong.

00:30:16.400 And they seemed unable to

00:30:17.920 agree.

00:30:18.380 They were speaking to a

00:30:19.040 man named J.W.

00:30:19.740 Burns, a Canadian 0.99

00:30:20.480 journalist and teacher.

00:30:21.840 And they seemed unable

00:30:23.000 to agree.

00:30:24.620 Are these are these

00:30:26.100 natives like us?

00:30:27.180 Are these the word they

00:30:28.060 used with strange Indians?

00:30:29.420 Are they just are they

00:30:30.580 us, but with a different

00:30:31.440 culture or are these a

00:30:33.020 different kind of person?

00:30:35.360 Yes.

00:30:36.040 Yes, you're good.

00:30:36.960 All right.

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00:33:18.720 Um,

00:33:19.240 okay.

00:33:22.460 Yeah.

00:33:22.880 The, uh, so these Saskettes 1.00

00:33:24.100 that are said to live out in

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00:33:29.760 bit less hairy ape man and a 0.79

00:33:32.020 little bit more divergent

00:33:33.920 human, humanoid hominid.

00:33:35.720 I, so I wonder, you know, we

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00:33:38.380 natives were actually here a

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00:33:42.340 Now it's about 25,000 years.

00:33:44.300 Uh, who knows it could go back

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00:33:47.520 years.

00:33:47.920 We, we could be looking at

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00:33:55.640 Those were hominids, uh, around 1.00

00:33:57.720 the, who lived around the same

00:33:58.780 time as Neanderthals.

00:33:59.640 We know that they were over in

00:34:01.140 Siberia.

00:34:03.780 Who's to say they also weren't

00:34:05.120 over in North America.

00:34:06.820 Who's to say something similar

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00:34:15.580 enough to work itself into the

00:34:18.400 oral traditions of modern Native

00:34:20.860 Americans.

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00:35:01.400 Where science and superstition

00:35:05.920 can kind of meet in the middle

00:35:07.540 and say, all right, let's pursue

00:35:08.700 this.

00:35:09.860 And for me, that's kind of how I

00:35:11.220 look at cryptids is, all right,

00:35:12.540 well, what, what inspired this

00:35:15.300 story?

00:35:15.800 Because it could be in some cases

00:35:17.700 that it was inspired by something

00:35:19.200 very real.

00:35:20.560 We might, if somebody told you at

00:35:22.220 a bar that, you know, they had

00:35:24.120 run into a venom spitting giant

00:35:26.820 lizard and they gave you some, some

00:35:29.480 silly name for it, like the

00:35:30.900 Snallygaster. 0.95

00:35:32.340 Well, you might say that's

00:35:33.360 ridiculous, but those exist.

00:35:36.360 They're, they're Komodo dragons and

00:35:37.600 monitor lizards, like they're real.

00:35:40.040 So a lot of these things that we

00:35:41.960 look at and we say, oh, that's,

00:35:43.100 that's supernatural.

00:35:43.820 That's a ghost story, whatever.

00:35:45.460 A lot of that stuff could very well

00:35:47.240 be at the very least based on

00:35:49.620 something real that grew and

00:35:51.160 devolved over time into something

00:35:52.360 more legendary, or it could just be

00:35:54.360 a very accurate description of

00:35:56.120 something that we don't know is

00:35:57.480 there yet.

00:35:57.960 I think one of the reasons that we

00:36:01.920 brought up the, the cryptids is

00:36:03.440 because we're going into this realm

00:36:04.900 of discussion with you about, uh,

00:36:07.820 missing 411.

00:36:08.880 And I, I don't know if you're, I'm

00:36:10.560 sure you are aware that the theory

00:36:12.640 surrounding it, what's the gentleman's

00:36:14.420 name?

00:36:14.740 David, um, David politus, David

00:36:17.240 politus.

00:36:17.960 It seems as though, and I don't want

00:36:19.620 to put words in his mouth.

00:36:20.740 Um, I might be mincing ideas here

00:36:22.400 from one source to another, but it

00:36:25.200 seems as though his theories on the

00:36:26.840 whole thing have evolved in a

00:36:28.140 direction that includes, uh,

00:36:30.520 essentially possibly cryptids and

00:36:33.040 portals, dimensional slips, things

00:36:35.340 of that nature.

00:36:36.520 And, you know, I, I speculate as to

00:36:40.240 whether or not the reason for that

00:36:42.420 jump is because, and I love the idea

00:36:44.860 as a sexy idea.

00:36:45.800 It's a lot of fun, but I do speculate

00:36:48.040 as to whether or not it's because of

00:36:49.880 a lack of concrete evidence or, or

00:36:53.400 any other answer, uh, that you would

00:36:56.060 start to explore these, these realms

00:36:59.020 essentially.

00:36:59.940 What are you, what are your thoughts

00:37:01.440 on the entire, for folks that don't

00:37:03.800 know missing 411, I highly recommend

00:37:06.260 checking out the docu-series.

00:37:08.240 I guess it's a docu-series.

00:37:09.440 Yeah.

00:37:09.720 Um, and it's about these very, um,

00:37:13.280 unique missing persons cases in national

00:37:16.760 forests and national parks where, uh,

00:37:19.840 the distance traveled by the missing

00:37:21.780 person seems to be, uh, it doesn't

00:37:26.220 match up with the timeframe, uh, within

00:37:29.380 which they're missing.

00:37:30.260 In other words, to get to point A to

00:37:32.460 point B would have taken an

00:37:33.560 astronomical amount of time and they

00:37:35.220 don't believe that a person, number

00:37:36.800 one, could do it in the timeframe.

00:37:39.000 And number two could traverse the kind

00:37:41.240 of treacherous landscape that is between

00:37:43.600 the points.

00:37:44.220 Um, especially given the age of some

00:37:47.260 of the people who are missing, there's

00:37:48.640 all kinds of very bizarre circumstances

00:37:51.340 where they will sweep an entire, let's

00:37:54.400 just say, uh, mountainside and find

00:37:56.820 nothing.

00:37:57.200 And then suddenly in a very obvious

00:37:59.140 place, uh, the belongings of the

00:38:01.160 person will suddenly appear well after

00:38:03.640 the search is over and be discovered by

00:38:05.540 someone who's just kind of out there,

00:38:07.020 you know, uh, exploring or, or fishing

00:38:09.360 or hunting.

00:38:09.840 Um, and also there is no discernible

00:38:15.460 signs of, uh, struggle or injury.

00:38:18.960 So sometimes they'll find their

00:38:20.300 belongings, but there's no blood.

00:38:22.160 There's nothing like, I believe in one

00:38:23.640 case, they even found, uh, the clothing

00:38:27.560 of one of the missing people kind of

00:38:30.620 folded up and, and placed nicely on a, on a

00:38:33.760 log.

00:38:34.020 And so it is strange what David

00:38:37.300 Polites has done is he's mapped these 0.98

00:38:39.440 missing persons cases all out and he's

00:38:42.740 drawn correlation, uh, where I suppose

00:38:45.860 someone could make the argument there is

00:38:47.280 none, but in his mind, these are all

00:38:50.080 connected.

00:38:50.520 And the thread that connects them is the

00:38:53.000 mysterious circumstances of the

00:38:54.820 disappearances.

00:38:55.460 So I'd be really interested in hearing

00:38:57.200 your take.

00:38:58.560 Do you go into this paranormal supernatural

00:39:01.080 thing?

00:39:02.160 Is that even, uh, an appropriate

00:39:04.500 terminology for this?

00:39:05.480 Because it might just be something that

00:39:06.640 we don't understand yet.

00:39:07.700 And so the supernatural and paranormal

00:39:09.280 are often things that are not defined

00:39:11.120 by science, but may yet be at some

00:39:13.620 point.

00:39:13.960 Uh, I'd be interested in hearing your

00:39:15.380 take on that.

00:39:16.580 Sure.

00:39:16.960 Yeah.

00:39:17.300 So I think, I think that the, one of

00:39:20.300 the best ways to refer to basically

00:39:21.520 anything in, in paranormal or

00:39:23.640 supernatural, uh, in that world is to

00:39:27.660 look at it as kind of being stuff.

00:39:29.960 Science hasn't figured out yet

00:39:31.120 because chances are, whatever that

00:39:34.060 story is, there is some sort of

00:39:36.240 realistic explanation for what

00:39:37.600 happened.

00:39:38.040 And when I say realistic, I don't

00:39:39.360 mean that there can't be some sort of

00:39:41.260 thing we don't understand.

00:39:42.720 I mean that eventually we will be able

00:39:44.540 to understand it.

00:39:45.520 All, all science, all sufficiently

00:39:48.100 advanced science looks like magic to

00:39:50.120 people who don't understand it.

00:39:51.360 You know, I, I'll, I'm going to level

00:39:53.540 I, we live in the year 2023 or 2024.

00:39:55.920 Now, I guess I still don't really

00:39:58.320 understand how electricity works and I

00:40:00.400 probably never will.

00:40:01.600 Like I, I understand how currents, you

00:40:03.740 know, like, yeah, this is direct

00:40:04.760 current.

00:40:05.060 This is alternating current and you

00:40:06.620 need one to make sure it goes along

00:40:08.280 for a longer period of time because

00:40:09.720 it'll dissipate.

00:40:10.440 And you know, the, it goes into my

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00:40:13.320 device.

00:40:13.640 I get that part.

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00:40:41.040 The physics of generating electricity

00:40:45.740 and how it functions totally lost on

00:40:48.540 me.

00:40:50.100 So, you know, to me, that's, that might

00:40:51.960 as well be magic.

00:40:53.160 I'm aware that there is a way to do it,

00:40:54.720 but there is also a spell for something.

00:40:56.320 So it's really funny.

00:40:58.020 There's a recipe.

00:40:58.660 One of our good friends, Matt Reif, who

00:41:02.140 owns Real Reif Technology, he's dealing

00:41:04.940 in this kind of stuff like Tesla coil

00:41:06.780 energy and stuff like that.

00:41:08.500 He was telling me about this argument

00:41:10.280 that he was having with Dr.

00:41:11.600 Parkinson, another dude who's dabbling.

00:41:15.320 He's like dabbling in this, like this

00:41:17.320 kind of electricity stuff that I don't

00:41:19.360 understand.

00:41:20.000 They're saying that they're sending

00:41:20.920 electricity through the ground 900 miles

00:41:23.400 to another state and it's picking up

00:41:25.940 the signal because, and I'm just like,

00:41:27.560 he's telling me, I'm like, not a

00:41:29.240 fucking clue.

00:41:30.180 I barely know that I can plug some

00:41:33.140 that it's amazing.

00:41:34.100 I can plug something in my house and

00:41:35.160 it works.

00:41:35.860 And there's people at that, at that

00:41:37.400 level where I'm just like sitting,

00:41:38.940 I'm sitting and watching.

00:41:40.300 No idea.

00:41:41.240 It could not, could not replicate it.

00:41:43.220 Couldn't tell you how to do it.

00:41:44.800 If an alien race appeared on earth

00:41:46.140 today and asked us how electricity

00:41:47.300 works, I could not tell them.

00:41:49.700 Um, I was driving the other day and I

00:41:51.820 was listening to, uh, Stevie Nicks or

00:41:54.240 what's the band she used to have, uh, 0.96

00:41:55.940 Fleetwood Mac.

00:41:56.680 And there's this song on the, on the

00:41:58.520 edge of 17, I think it is.

00:41:59.880 It's an awesome song.

00:42:01.000 I love the song.

00:42:01.580 It's like a guilty pleasure of mine,

00:42:02.840 but I'm driving and I'm thinking

00:42:04.060 like, dude, if you went back to like

00:42:06.080 the 1700s and all of a sudden dropped

00:42:08.660 a stage with Stevie Nicks and she

00:42:10.160 played this song, people would fucking 0.92

00:42:12.000 die.

00:42:12.640 They would just die.

00:42:13.700 They wouldn't be able, it would be

00:42:14.760 such an overload.

00:42:15.800 So yeah, that would be magic.

00:42:17.260 They'd be like, I don't know, these

00:42:17.940 fucking, uh, wizards just got on, on

00:42:20.500 a, on a big platform and they started

00:42:22.040 playing sound at us and the sound was

00:42:23.980 certainly of the devil.

00:42:25.280 And yeah, and my aunt died before my

00:42:27.320 eyes.

00:42:27.700 It would be Astroworld.

00:42:29.340 So it's very interesting that you

00:42:30.440 bring up wizards because that term,

00:42:34.520 obviously, you know, we have Harry

00:42:35.620 Potter.

00:42:36.000 Now we all think about wizards as guys

00:42:37.380 with wands who cast spells and all of

00:42:39.020 that.

00:42:39.620 The term wizard back in the middle

00:42:40.960 ages, when it developed meant wise man

00:42:43.840 and these wizards were alchemists and

00:42:48.460 astrologers and, uh, and, uh, potion

00:42:52.140 makers.

00:42:53.580 And all of that sounds very magical and

00:42:55.480 bippity boppity and, you know, you got

00:42:57.880 Macbeth and the witches stirring their

00:43:00.000 pot.

00:43:00.980 But if you look at what these people

00:43:02.200 were actually doing, well, what is

00:43:04.020 alchemy?

00:43:04.560 We all think about it as turning lead

00:43:06.020 into gold, right?

00:43:06.920 But what, what is alchemy actually?

00:43:10.180 What is the process of taking one

00:43:12.740 material and turning it into another

00:43:15.220 one?

00:43:15.880 It's, it's material science.

00:43:18.220 It's chemistry.

00:43:19.040 It's chemistry.

00:43:20.020 It's chemistry.

00:43:20.760 The term alchemy comes from alchemy.

00:43:23.480 The term chemistry comes from chemmy.

00:43:26.040 Like they're, they're the same, they're

00:43:27.600 the same root word in Arabic because

00:43:30.080 they're the same thing.

00:43:31.000 Just alchemy was a little bit more, more

00:43:33.060 hoodoo, you know, like, all right, well,

00:43:34.900 if we mix these things, maybe we'll turn

00:43:36.540 this into this.

00:43:37.760 It was very similar with potion

00:43:38.940 making.

00:43:40.060 I mean, think about what potion makers

00:43:41.300 did.

00:43:41.680 You come to your, your potion maker,

00:43:43.480 your, your court potion maker, and you

00:43:44.700 say, Hey, um, I have some aches and

00:43:48.600 I've had a, a lot of, you know, my nose

00:43:51.420 has been running recently and they say,

00:43:53.060 Oh, I'll whip something up for that.

00:43:54.240 And they take a whole bunch of herbs.

00:43:55.860 Uh, maybe, maybe some powders of

00:43:58.040 certain heavy metals and maybe like, I

00:44:00.540 don't know, bone dust or something.

00:44:01.860 They grind it up.

00:44:02.740 They mix it with some water.

00:44:04.040 They create a tincture.

00:44:04.840 They create a beverage, anything along

00:44:06.960 those lines.

00:44:07.520 And what do you end up with?

00:44:08.440 Well, you end up with a pharmaceutical

00:44:10.360 drug.

00:44:12.560 That's what potion makers were.

00:44:14.200 They were apothecaries is probably the

00:44:16.060 right term for it, but they were

00:44:17.260 pharmacists.

00:44:18.140 They were, they were people who put

00:44:19.980 together mixtures to solve ailments.

00:44:22.500 Uh, and then you have astrologers.

00:44:24.080 Well, what are astrologers?

00:44:25.600 Obviously today, astrology is something

00:44:27.540 that, you know, 20 year old white girls 1.00

00:44:29.520 do to make sure that they're compatible

00:44:30.620 with their boyfriend.

00:44:31.220 Thousand years ago, it was astronomy.

00:44:35.480 It was looking at events that have

00:44:38.080 happened.

00:44:38.520 Well, what position were the stars in

00:44:40.000 when it happened?

00:44:40.720 Are the stars in that position now?

00:44:42.600 Could it be that we're witnessing the

00:44:44.460 same event repeating itself?

00:44:46.680 That was astrology.

00:44:48.220 So you're seeing a, and of course there

00:44:49.880 were people doing all the weird stuff

00:44:51.040 too, but the point is all of this old

00:44:54.220 magic, as we describe it, was in fact

00:44:57.360 science.

00:44:57.860 It was just a very rudimentary form of

00:45:00.280 it that today to us would look like

00:45:02.160 kids playing in, you know, playing with

00:45:03.880 baking materials.

00:45:04.940 But to them back then, three field crop

00:45:08.080 rotation was a new thing being like, oh

00:45:10.520 my God, if we leave one field barren for 0.85

00:45:12.740 a year, it'll come back twice as fertile.

00:45:15.140 Let's do it.

00:45:16.240 That was new around a thousand AD.

00:45:20.440 What's interesting is that was new.

00:45:23.700 And now we're obviously dealing with like

00:45:25.800 much more advanced techniques for agriculture.

00:45:27.960 At the same time, when you're looking at

00:45:29.680 the pyramids and whatever that was,

00:45:31.760 whatever was going on there, we're not

00:45:34.680 even, we're not even able to replicate

00:45:36.380 how they got those stones there with,

00:45:39.180 with modern trucks and heavy machinery.

00:45:41.240 So yeah, it's like, for me, it's like a

00:45:43.580 give and take, right?

00:45:44.280 I'm like, like, yeah, in a lot of ways

00:45:46.420 we have made advancements, but in a lot

00:45:47.980 of ways, maybe we've forgotten a lot of

00:45:49.400 stuff.

00:45:50.540 So yeah, the, the pyramids are one of

00:45:52.140 those things that I took all, I'll be

00:45:54.300 honest. I took one Egyptology course in

00:45:56.320 college and I dropped it because I got

00:45:58.200 lost. The names are so foreign, the

00:46:01.120 dynasties overlap. Like it's really

00:46:04.500 complicated keeping it all together. I'm

00:46:06.060 sure if I had taken a few months and

00:46:08.080 really sat down and focused, but it was

00:46:10.120 like my sixth course that semester. I

00:46:11.440 just wasn't, it's not about it.

00:46:14.240 I, it really is one of those things that

00:46:17.680 people have come up with methods that

00:46:19.460 could have worked.

00:46:20.380 It's just, is that method remotely

00:46:23.400 efficient for doing this?

00:46:25.760 And the answer is usually no, like the

00:46:28.980 method of, okay, well, we're going to

00:46:30.920 take a copper saw and we're going to

00:46:32.840 throw sand into the sawing point and

00:46:36.260 then we're going to sluice it with water

00:46:37.740 as we saw, and that's going to get us

00:46:40.000 through the block. Well, yeah, that'll get

00:46:41.220 you through the block, but it's going to

00:46:42.900 take a long time.

00:46:44.500 Yeah. Right. And also why they choose

00:46:47.020 such a hard type of stone.

00:46:49.680 Yeah. The precision that they did it

00:46:51.360 with. There's also that idea of like

00:46:52.600 wetting the sand and sliding these

00:46:54.320 things over almost like it's skiing over

00:46:56.100 the sand. You know, there's a lot of

00:46:58.240 things that they come up with, but it's

00:46:59.920 like, yeah, does this work, you know, at

00:47:02.500 scale when you're, when you're talking

00:47:05.100 about however many blocks over however

00:47:06.800 many megalithic structures. Yeah. And

00:47:09.120 then the other thing too, is it's, it's

00:47:10.560 weird because, you know, the courses, the

00:47:14.900 way I look at it is like when you have

00:47:15.980 guys like Randall Carlson and Graham

00:47:18.040 Hancock, take what you want from their

00:47:20.820 theories, but it's very clear that the,

00:47:24.940 the verdict is still out. Yeah. And to, to

00:47:29.320 saddle someone down with debt and say,

00:47:31.640 take this class and we're going to tell

00:47:32.880 you what it is. I don't know necessarily

00:47:34.380 what that class is like. Right. But I

00:47:36.180 imagine there's a lot of, um, there's

00:47:40.040 certainly, uh, you, you become vested in

00:47:43.760 the information that you've been given

00:47:45.740 because you have a monetary investment

00:47:47.540 in it. And then that you can see, that's

00:47:49.560 what kind of creates like the gatekeeper

00:47:51.160 system that exists in archeology, right? The

00:47:53.580 same thing that, uh, Randall Carlson is

00:47:56.240 allegedly, uh, you know, butting up

00:47:58.780 against constantly is these, are these

00:48:02.020 gatekeepers that tell anybody who has an

00:48:05.660 alternative theory that, you know, it's

00:48:07.280 completely out the window and it's just,

00:48:09.220 we're probably going to get to the

00:48:10.280 point where 50 years from now, much of

00:48:12.260 what, uh, Carlson, you know, suggested

00:48:15.900 what with the, uh, the redoing of the

00:48:18.520 Sphinx and the, the, the water erosion

00:48:20.900 suggesting that it's like, I don't even

00:48:22.320 know how many thousands of years, 12

00:48:24.760 thousand years, something like that. And

00:48:27.780 I wouldn't be surprised if we're going to

00:48:29.160 be sitting in a climate when it comes to

00:48:30.940 archeology and history, we're like, oh yeah,

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00:52:14.800 Yeah, it's, there's definitely a

00:52:19.060 significant degree of that within the

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00:52:22.600 as well with history. Uh, part of the

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00:52:58.920 What your future looks like is

00:53:01.180 essentially one of three things. You

00:53:03.280 are going to be a professor, you are

00:53:05.980 going to be an archivist, or you are

00:53:08.400 going to be a, uh, a museum curator.

00:53:11.340 Those are like your three main options

00:53:13.960 when you get a history degree.

00:53:16.080 Archaeologists have the benefit of they

00:53:17.340 can also go and do field work. There's

00:53:19.520 really no, historians can't really do

00:53:21.500 field work. What is field work for us?

00:53:23.840 Going to the library. So that's what

00:53:26.500 professors do. Archaeologists have the

00:53:28.640 benefit of being able to go into the

00:53:29.700 field, but part of the issue there is

00:53:31.960 when you are getting into it, well,

00:53:34.760 first, uh, let's take historians because

00:53:36.740 that's what I'm most familiar with. Uh, if I

00:53:39.320 were to have gone the typical route, then

00:53:41.420 I got out of school and I took a year

00:53:43.500 off to work private sector, try and make

00:53:45.700 a little bit of money and then go back. Uh,

00:53:47.780 you go back or you go straight in and

00:53:50.420 you get your master's degree. And while

00:53:51.900 you're getting your master's degree, you

00:53:53.320 get, uh, you work as a TA. So you are

00:53:56.540 probably either going to be teaching a

00:53:58.700 very low level course or possibly you're

00:54:02.500 going to be teaching, you're going to be,

00:54:03.840 uh, assisting with a grad course or a, an

00:54:06.660 undergrad course, something like that. Uh,

00:54:08.540 that is below your year. Very rarely

00:54:11.400 you'll see a master's student get to

00:54:12.940 teach their own course, but that's

00:54:14.240 usually like a review kind of class. You

00:54:18.220 get your master's degree. Now you can be

00:54:19.480 an adjunct. Adjuncts make like 20 grand

00:54:22.140 a year. Jesus Christ. So yeah, you get

00:54:25.280 paid by the class. You don't get paid for

00:54:27.680 being a professor. You get paid by the

00:54:30.260 class you teach. So you don't make a ton

00:54:32.800 of money. You're usually teaching at two

00:54:34.300 or three schools all in the same area

00:54:36.420 running back and forth, you know, day to

00:54:38.200 day. Oh yeah. You do that for five to

00:54:42.860 10 years while you get your PhD. And if

00:54:45.500 you're lucky, you get your PhD in just

00:54:47.180 five years, uh, in the U S it's a lot

00:54:49.900 quicker over in Britain. They have no

00:54:51.580 like real reason to keep you there

00:54:53.700 because they don't hold their academics

00:54:55.580 to quite as high of a standard. Uh, and

00:54:57.540 they also are, it's free. So, um,

00:55:00.860 interesting. Yeah. I remember I was

00:55:02.560 talking to students at the, the UK

00:55:04.860 school. I was going to get my master's

00:55:06.180 degree at and every single, uh, other

00:55:08.880 foreign student, everyone who was from

00:55:11.920 another European country, but

00:55:13.060 particularly people who had gone to

00:55:14.380 school in both the U S and the UK

00:55:15.980 told me that by far, I would probably

00:55:19.320 be the best educated person out of all

00:55:22.020 of the students in every single one of

00:55:23.500 my classes. Uh, because the American 0.99

00:55:25.620 education system, once you get to

00:55:27.660 college is considerably more rigorous

00:55:29.560 and only the people that come out at

00:55:31.800 the top of their classes here in the

00:55:33.320 U S go to school over in the UK. So 1.00

00:55:36.820 you're getting like the best of the

00:55:38.200 best American students going over

00:55:39.760 there to do their grad schools. Uh, and

00:55:42.280 usually you're doing that because you

00:55:43.380 want to be around the history you're

00:55:44.980 studying, but say you, you work, you

00:55:48.660 spent six years getting your, your

00:55:51.540 undergrad and your master's. You are

00:55:53.320 now 24, 25 years old. You then start

00:55:56.300 your PhD program, which takes you

00:55:57.680 another five years. Hopefully you are

00:56:00.300 30 years old. You got a job at the

00:56:04.460 university that had a position open.

00:56:07.180 You are making 50 grand. Jeez, man.

00:56:11.540 What incentive is there to break from

00:56:16.680 the system that is going to make sure

00:56:18.560 you live? There's extreme incentive

00:56:20.500 point from the other side. No, exactly. So

00:56:23.180 when you, when you get there, what you're

00:56:25.140 facing down is if I go outside of the

00:56:29.140 mainstream, if I break away from what is

00:56:31.480 acceptable, I will likely never work in

00:56:34.800 academia again. I will probably be

00:56:37.140 ridiculed. Exactly. You'll, you will be

00:56:39.320 so ridiculed, so criticized that you will

00:56:41.640 never have the opportunity to come back,

00:56:43.260 which means that college that's employing

00:56:45.800 you as a professor is not going to pay

00:56:47.460 off your student loans. They're not going

00:56:49.560 to give your kids free tuition. They're

00:56:53.260 not going to provide you with tenure that

00:56:55.600 keeps your job secured. You know, maybe

00:56:58.040 it's a lower salary, probably 80 to 100

00:56:59.960 grand, but it's going to keep you secure

00:57:02.020 forever.

00:57:03.860 So even if it's not by design, it is still

00:57:07.000 maybe let's call it accidentally the most

00:57:10.360 effective indoctrination machine.

00:57:13.480 Yeah. Accidentally machine. It's an, it's an,

00:57:15.180 it's an indoctrination machine because it, it,

00:57:17.260 it literally by short of threat of violence

00:57:21.240 tells you what you have to believe or it's,

00:57:24.380 it's, or else, you know, Aiden, I was going

00:57:26.620 to ask why you started doing, uh, your show

00:57:29.820 and you just explained, you gave us the whole

00:57:32.080 backstory of it. And man, I'm, I'm, I'm glad

00:57:35.060 that you're super successful with it, man. And,

00:57:36.780 and it does open up another lane for historians

00:57:40.180 and people with this kind of inclination to like

00:57:43.000 actually explore ideas. And that's beautiful, man.

00:57:45.920 Even if, you know, you're going to shit all

00:57:47.780 over what I think I just, I'm not, I'm joking

00:57:53.040 with you, man. What I say is retarded. The other 1.00

00:57:55.340 half is, is a lie.

00:57:57.560 So, yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's frustrating

00:58:01.880 and it's a little frightening looking at it. I

00:58:03.580 remember I tell this story a lot, but I was sitting

00:58:05.400 in a classroom, uh, about a year ago, I guess. And, uh,

00:58:10.340 a retired professor who had worked in both, uh,

00:58:13.100 academia and in the media as you know, he was a

00:58:16.520 radio host. Um, he basically came in and he was

00:58:19.420 sitting, he was talking to our class. It's probably

00:58:21.200 15 of us, uh, maybe less, uh, grad students at

00:58:24.260 Westchester university in Pennsylvania. And he comes

00:58:27.980 in and he's kind of going down the list and he's

00:58:29.480 talking about his experiences. And then he starts

00:58:31.540 asking us what we want to do. Why are we in grad

00:58:33.440 school? Most of the answers are one of two things.

00:58:36.700 Either I'm planning to be a professor or I am in

00:58:40.140 secondary education or primary education. And I am

00:58:43.440 doing my continuing education, which is where the

00:58:45.860 school basically pays them to go and get more education

00:58:50.260 to work on master's courses. Um, those are the two

00:58:54.980 primary reasons. The secondary school teachers were

00:58:58.140 told, good, you're, you know, you should probably look at

00:59:01.480 taking some courses that are, you know, be, be more

00:59:03.920 picky, maybe take something that's really going to give

00:59:06.040 you a heavy bargaining chips. You know, if you're in

00:59:09.120 social studies, go take a psych course because you

00:59:11.680 might be, that might help you take, take on another

00:59:13.740 class, get paid more, that kind of thing. To all the

00:59:17.100 kids who wanted to be professors, he basically told

00:59:19.620 them you're in for a rough ride. You're, you're going

00:59:24.000 to struggle. There's not a lot of positions open. The

00:59:27.820 professors that are in their sixties are not going

00:59:30.840 anywhere for the next 20 years. The ones who are

00:59:33.640 younger than that are the majority and they're not

00:59:35.820 going anywhere for 40 years. You are going to be going

00:59:39.020 to whatever school has an opening for you. You are

00:59:41.500 going to be making very little money and you are going

00:59:44.320 to have to hope that things work out. He gets to me and I

00:59:48.860 say, well, it's always been sort of my plan to be a

00:59:52.000 professor so that I would have time to write novels

00:59:53.640 because that's what I wanted to do is I wanted to be an

00:59:55.240 author. And I said, and the other thing I would love to

00:59:57.900 do is consult on media productions, whether that's

01:00:01.280 video games, movies, TV shows. I would love to be one of

01:00:04.180 the guys that gets called into the writing room and they

01:00:06.640 say, Hey, we're doing a show about Vikings and we need to

01:00:10.500 know, you know, would it be appropriate to have them in

01:00:13.620 England in the year 750 AD? And I can say, no, that's 40 0.63

01:00:18.400 years too early. You're going to need to wait. I would set it,

01:00:21.280 you know, if you want like early Viking period in England,

01:00:23.900 let's talk 795 to 815. Netflix needs to hire you because

01:00:28.520 they, I mean, I think all the old, like the Roman people 1.00

01:00:31.500 were, were black in one of the, like somebody, yeah. I know 0.83

01:00:37.440 they just did that with like some Cleopatra, I believe it

01:00:40.480 was like, it wasn't even just that there was another one. There

01:00:43.240 was like a, a, a Viking, uh, that it was a black woman. It 1.00

01:00:48.240 was insane. Hawken the good. Who's like unimportant one. Uh,

01:00:53.320 it's not, that's not like a random Viking chieftain. That's

01:00:57.680 the guy who converted Norway to Christianity. Uh, so yeah. And

01:01:02.940 he also lived way before Leif Erikson, which pisses me off

01:01:07.060 enough about that show. Uh, like we're talking about, I think

01:01:09.920 925 to 936 was his reign. Leif Erikson was like the 980s

01:01:15.740 onward. Uh, this is why I can't watch, I can't watch

01:01:18.540 anything on Netflix, everything on Netflix. Like it's like

01:01:21.080 every time a documentary comes out, I'm like, it's not a

01:01:23.880 real documentary. It's like some form of just, uh, uh,

01:01:27.980 brainwashing or, or purposeful disinformation. It's, it's,

01:01:32.400 they have a whole thing. Sometimes it's not even

01:01:34.460 purposeful, just random, like random disinformation, maybe

01:01:39.100 just to irritate people. It's a lot of it really is just that

01:01:43.400 people, they don't know. They go on Wikipedia and they're

01:01:46.300 like, ah, what does Wikipedia say? Well, as long as I'm close

01:01:49.480 to that, it's like Wikipedia's angle as well, as long as I'm

01:01:52.100 close. So you're saying, well, as long as I'm close to the

01:01:55.100 guys who went, as long as we're close. I think you're giving

01:01:58.460 them more credit than they deserve. I don't think they look

01:02:01.060 anything up. They could just, they're just saying it. And

01:02:03.480 then what they can do is they can plug in different

01:02:05.660 ethnicities and then they, they hide behind this sort of 0.99

01:02:08.180 like, um, racial justice barrier. And then it's like, well,

01:02:11.420 you can't create it. It doesn't matter what we say. It

01:02:13.120 doesn't matter how historically inaccurate it is. We

01:02:15.460 have just realized it gives us total creativity.

01:02:18.200 We're doing it wrong. We need to become social justice

01:02:20.740 warriors on this show. So whenever someone was like, Hey,

01:02:22.880 listen, that's, that didn't happen. It'd be like, actually

01:02:25.280 I'm Spanish. So you can't say that.

01:02:27.580 All the Nephilim were black women. 1.00

01:02:30.520 So let's, all right, let's, let's start. Um, actually

01:02:34.360 you know what I'm really doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's, let's get

01:02:37.260 back to, uh, cause we don't have very much longer and I

01:02:39.380 wanted to get your thoughts on the whole, uh, missing

01:02:42.100 four one. What do you suspect is happening here?

01:02:44.820 So that's, that's been an interesting one. That is

01:02:47.120 probably been the, the position where my opinion has

01:02:50.660 changed the most over the last couple of years. When I

01:02:53.080 went into it, uh, I was first exposed to it via, uh, I

01:02:56.140 want to say Mr. Ballin was probably the guy, um, who he

01:02:59.500 told a bunch of missing from one story. He's a great job

01:03:01.400 with it. Uh, he's great, great podcaster, very

01:03:05.340 entertaining, um, very good storytelling voice and all

01:03:08.480 of that highly recommended. Um, but he was telling the

01:03:11.180 stories basically as they were written, uh, from, from

01:03:13.780 Mr. Ballin and, or not from Mr. Ballin, from David

01:03:16.160 Politis. And there was a website called strange

01:03:18.560 outdoors that also records these, uh, the way that they

01:03:22.900 were all appearing, it sounded like they had to all have

01:03:25.720 some sort of supernatural aspect to them. Um, and so we

01:03:29.520 started looking into it, you know, why, why is this kid who

01:03:32.340 was at this, this summer camp, why did he disappear and

01:03:35.460 end up 3000 feet higher on a mountain two miles away? And

01:03:39.240 why was his skull missing? Seems very odd. You dig down

01:03:45.080 into it. Well, Bobby B's up was at Camp St. Mallow, which

01:03:47.660 is a Catholic boys camp. This was in the 1950s. Uh, as it

01:03:51.760 turns out, I think four different counselors who were

01:03:54.600 there at the same time as him eventually ended up being

01:03:56.960 caught, uh, abusing children. Um, Colorado was like the

01:04:02.040 center of that whole Catholic priest abuse scandal. So,

01:04:05.780 all right, cool. So let's dig in a little further. What

01:04:08.360 else do we know? Well, at the time it happened, it was

01:04:10.440 said that he, the last he was seen, he was down fishing in

01:04:14.320 a Creek. One of the counselors said, Hey, come up. And

01:04:16.940 then he was never seen again in 2018. A team went and they

01:04:21.540 interviewed some of the other kids who were at the camp and

01:04:25.260 a bunch of them clearly could remember probably the same

01:04:29.120 night. If not earlier that week, Bobby being over at the

01:04:34.640 snack bar, speaking to one of the, uh, one of the counselors

01:04:38.680 who was a seminarian, because everybody who was a camp

01:04:40.960 counselor there was either a priest or a seminarian. He

01:04:43.560 was speaking to one of the seminarians and then they saw

01:04:45.960 him run away, very upset, like crying, like ran out of the

01:04:49.360 room, like out the door. Even you look at the case of Bobby

01:04:54.360 B's up. Oh, by the way, I, after that story aired, a guy came

01:04:58.260 forward and revealed that he had in his possession, a child's

01:05:00.980 skull that was given to his father by the guy who ran the

01:05:04.800 camp. What? So you look at that story and you go, Hmm, I

01:05:10.080 don't think this was Bigfoot. I think this was, this kid was

01:05:14.400 molested, ran away, got scared and died of exposure up in the

01:05:19.480 mountains. Cause he was in the Rockies at 11,000 feet wearing a

01:05:22.640 t-shirt. Yeah. You look at that story. It's like, eh, I feel

01:05:26.060 like this one probably has a more reasonable explanation, but

01:05:29.160 then there's other ones. There's, uh, Garrett Bardsley, for

01:05:31.800 example, he was with his father on a Boy Scout camping trip.

01:05:35.740 This was in, uh, the, uh, Wasatch-Uinta National Forest. This

01:05:40.280 is about an hour, I'd say east of Salt Lake City. And they're up

01:05:45.160 in the mountains and he and his dad are fishing at around

01:05:47.840 8 a.m. It's the, the first, uh, the first morning they'd

01:05:51.060 woken up at the camp. This was not, this was not a sanctioned

01:05:54.240 Boy Scouts trip. This was the Boy Scout troop doing it as a

01:05:57.180 private thing together as you know, fathers and sons trip. Um,

01:06:01.400 Garrett and his dad are fishing. Garrett slips into the water.

01:06:04.440 He gets his feet wet in one of these lakes, decides he wants

01:06:07.180 to go back and change out his socks and shoes because it's

01:06:09.400 just uncomfortable to have wet feet. He's 150 yards from the

01:06:13.520 campsite. The way back to the campsite is basically 75, 75 yards

01:06:18.060 in one direction, turn a corner, 75 yards in the other

01:06:21.220 direction. At no point on the trail are you out of sight of

01:06:24.900 either the dad or the camp. One of them can see you at all

01:06:28.260 times. Garrett actually goes past the turnoff and his dad

01:06:32.860 calls back to him and says, Garrett, you missed it. It's back

01:06:35.860 there. Garrett comes back and his dad watches him turn onto the

01:06:38.760 proper trail. So now there's only 75 yards between where Garrett

01:06:43.040 was last seen and his destination, the campsite. After 20 or so

01:06:48.080 minutes, he's not back from what should have been a 300 yard

01:06:50.900 round trip. So his dad goes and asks at the camp and he says,

01:06:54.720 Hey, has anybody seen Garrett? They haven't. They start looking

01:06:58.020 all over the place. This is Salt Lake city. We're talking Mormon 1.00

01:07:01.500 community here. Mormons are pretty intense about community and

01:07:06.180 about family. You have dozens of people who don't even know

01:07:10.240 Garrett, who have known, who don't know the Bardsleys up in

01:07:13.660 those mountains searching for him for a week. Nobody finds

01:07:16.700 anything at all. The most commonly cited explanation for

01:07:22.220 this, uh, because it can't be that Garrett was kidnapped. There

01:07:25.940 was just no way for that to happen. He would have, he would

01:07:29.760 have screamed. There would have been a sign of a struggle.

01:07:31.480 Somebody would have seen it happen. There was just no way for

01:07:33.780 Garrett to be kidnapped. So the only other explanations of that

01:07:37.520 Garrett ran away, which he had no motive to do. Um, and nobody

01:07:41.040 found him. So how far can a little kid possibly get at that

01:07:44.500 time? Uh, he was 12. The other, uh, the other explanation

01:07:48.760 given if we're sticking with non-paranormal explanations is

01:07:52.020 that he was, uh, grabbed by a mountain lion. Now mountain lions

01:07:54.780 can approach pretty silently. They can hook their jaws around

01:07:57.800 the back of your head and cut, cut your brainstem. They can

01:08:01.220 prevent you from screaming and they can basically disappear

01:08:03.800 with a fully, uh, you know, a 12 year old boy is not too big for

01:08:07.540 a mountain lion to drag off. Unlikely that there will be no

01:08:11.560 blood, but it's possible. The problem is Garrett was carrying

01:08:17.120 a fishing rod. They never found the fishing rod. Yeah. Which

01:08:22.700 means if he was attacked by a mountain lion, he would have

01:08:24.780 dropped the fishing rod. There is no viable explanation

01:08:28.620 accepting that Garrett's father like drowned him and hid the

01:08:33.080 body, which based on the way his father behaved afterwards, seems

01:08:37.380 extraordinarily unlikely. Uh, there is no explanation for this

01:08:41.980 that fits within what my understanding of the normal world

01:08:47.000 is. Something must have taken him. What, what can take a human

01:08:53.500 child without them screaming and without any blood? And to me,

01:08:57.500 the only thing that really makes sense is another person. But

01:09:02.160 again, a normal person could not have pulled that off in the way

01:09:06.840 that they did. What does that leave? It leaves something that is

01:09:12.680 humanoid that lives out in the woods that is accustomed to that

01:09:16.580 territory that can move near silently. We're talking about a

01:09:18.840 perfect predator, perfect hunter, and something that probably based

01:09:22.840 on how fast Garrett went missing lives underground. Garrett was near

01:09:28.900 a boulder field. He was in the mountains. There's caves

01:09:31.840 everywhere. So it makes me wonder about that possibility. Now, am I

01:09:36.360 going to say that's the Wendigo two years ago? Probably would

01:09:39.080 have. I'm a little bit less certain about what precisely is

01:09:42.440 doing it. But what seems clear to me is that in a minority of

01:09:46.520 missing four on one cases, there is no possible explanation

01:09:49.800 accepting that he was taken by feral human beings, Bigfoot,

01:09:56.480 something along those lines. Now, what you believe Bigfoot to be

01:10:00.000 is up to you. For me, it's basically a large humanoid that lives

01:10:04.780 out in the forests. Doesn't necessarily have to even appear

01:10:08.440 non-human. That's, in my opinion, why we never found a Bigfoot

01:10:11.800 skeleton is because it would be indistinguishable from a large

01:10:16.000 human. And the reason that you wouldn't find Bigfoot hair is

01:10:19.520 because it would be indistinguishable from hominin hair genetically.

01:10:22.540 Exactly. So that's where I net out on it. And I think that's

01:10:26.360 kind of the broad, broadly, that's my take on missing four on

01:10:29.700 one is in a lot of the cases, you find something like Bobby

01:10:32.720 Beezop, where to David Politis's credit, when he came out with

01:10:36.820 the Bobby Beezop story, his version of it, that was before any

01:10:40.340 of this investigation was done. And they determined that this

01:10:42.360 was almost certainly a case of child abuse. David Politis

01:10:46.800 didn't have that information. You could argue that he should

01:10:49.140 have gone and gotten it, but he's one man who does not have the

01:10:51.720 resources of an entire news station. So can't hold him to, you

01:10:56.400 know, you can't hold that one against him, in my opinion. But

01:10:58.840 that is kind of what I see with a lot of this is, in a lot of

01:11:01.760 cases, you know, there's a good chance that something normal

01:11:06.640 happens, something tragic, but something normal. Every once in a

01:11:10.240 while, something comes along that just doesn't click, just

01:11:14.760 doesn't make sense. That's actually what the video we're putting

01:11:16.780 out on Friday is about, is the cases that don't make sense. But

01:11:22.080 yeah, I mean, there's, it's, it's weird. And whether or not the

01:11:25.020 body is found also has a lot to do with it, because in some cases,

01:11:27.600 the body isn't found, like Garrett Bardsley, Stacey Aris, Tom

01:11:31.120 Messick. But in other cases, like Bart Schlier, the body is found

01:11:34.980 and the body is found in a position it really shouldn't be. Like he

01:11:39.440 was a, his job was hunting grizzly bears and tagging Siberian

01:11:43.600 tigers. This is the kind of guy who wasn't going to get crept up

01:11:46.180 on. He's also an excellent physical condition, excellent

01:11:49.580 health, early fifties. You know, from what I could tell, didn't

01:11:53.580 have a family history of heart attacks, aneurysm, stroke,

01:11:56.540 anything like that. And he just disappears. It appears he died the

01:12:02.280 very first day he was on a moose hunting trip. And, you know,

01:12:04.820 moose are very dangerous to the average person to a guy like

01:12:07.020 Bart Schlier. A moose is a deer. You know, it's, it's just not,

01:12:12.360 this is a guy who bow hunted grizzly bears, like Kodiak

01:12:16.000 grizzly bears. Bow hunted. He's not going to get crept up on

01:12:22.260 by a moose. The other issue is he was, he was torn apart. Like

01:12:26.460 they couldn't find all of his body. And the, the Royal Canadian

01:12:30.760 Mounted Police said that he was killed and eaten by a bear. The

01:12:34.340 problem was that when bears don't finish their meal, they leave

01:12:36.960 it in a cache. They, they dig out a hole, they bury it and they

01:12:40.340 cover it up with dirt and they come back for it later. They

01:12:42.820 found none of that. There were no human remains in any of the

01:12:45.160 bear or wolf scat in the area. Uh, and there was a case just a

01:12:50.100 year prior to that where a photographer was eaten by a

01:12:54.440 grizzly bear in Alaska, caught the whole thing on camera. Like

01:12:58.060 he, he managed to capture his own death on camera. Uh, yeah,

01:13:01.940 yeah, it's, it's dark, but the thing is when they killed the

01:13:06.160 bear that did it, his clothes were in the bear's stomach. They

01:13:10.160 found no bear scat with clothes in it. They found nothing. So

01:13:13.760 whatever killed Bart, it left none of the telltale signs of it

01:13:18.940 being a bear, nor of it being a wolf. What was it? Um, you know,

01:13:25.260 some people have argued that he, he did have a heart attack, that

01:13:28.800 he did have a stroke, something like that, that he died and he was

01:13:31.340 scavenged, but there was also no evidence of that. Like there

01:13:34.800 was, there was no, no signs of scavenger animals picking apart

01:13:38.840 his corpse. So it's, you just look at it and you go, okay, I

01:13:43.720 guess. All right.

01:13:46.900 I like, I like to see, uh, when, when guys like you and, uh, one

01:13:51.400 of, one of our friends, Justin from cryptids of the corn, he's a

01:13:53.860 biologist. He, uh, he does the same thing cause he's, he's always

01:13:57.580 studying different cryptids and he'll tell you about cryptids, like

01:14:00.040 actual animals that people thought didn't exist, but lo and

01:14:04.320 behold, they exist. Um, he was, he was like that. And then he

01:14:08.360 had a Bigfoot encounter and he's just like, I don't really know

01:14:11.080 what to think anymore. You just, I'm just kind of like lost, you

01:14:14.380 know, when he says, when he said Bigfoot encounter, what was

01:14:16.800 the, uh, did he ever describe it to you? He did. You'd have

01:14:20.720 to, I, I mean, well, I don't want to mischaracter, mischaracterize

01:14:24.200 what he said. Maybe David remembers better, but he'll give you the

01:14:27.580 firsthand account of what he said enough to change his mind to

01:14:31.220 say, clearly there is a Bigfoot. And this is a dude who does this

01:14:34.780 professionally. He's a professional biologist. So I'm not an incredibly

01:14:38.220 measured guy. If you want to, yeah, put us in contact. So I'd be

01:14:41.860 happy to have him on our show too. Oh yeah. He's like a strictly, uh,

01:14:46.400 information driven, a real, um, uh, analytical mind when it comes to

01:14:50.680 these sorts of things. What was his, uh, what was his channel?

01:14:53.040 Cryptids of the Corn. Fantastic channel. When you talk to him, ask him

01:14:58.800 about, uh, organic UFOs and the upper atmosphere. You're going to

01:15:02.860 have a blast with that. Organic UFOs. Oh, so cool. It's so cool. It's my

01:15:07.480 favorite part of the entire episode is fungal based, uh, organic UFOs. I

01:15:12.340 believe he was, uh, describing and it's really compelling stuff. He went

01:15:16.140 off the movie, um, or how it related to the movie up or not up. I'm sorry.

01:15:20.600 That's the Pixar film. Yeah. That one. Uh, what's the, what's the one? Nope.

01:15:25.580 That's what it was, uh, where they had sort of an organic UFO, uh, uh,

01:15:29.620 situation. It was a great movie, but when I hear these things, Aiden, I can't

01:15:34.160 help but think about, and I just wonder, I know we're getting close to the end

01:15:37.820 here, but if you had any thoughts on the situation in Peru, uh, with the face

01:15:44.060 peelers, I'm sure this has come across your radar and there's these reports of,

01:15:50.240 uh, what the government of Peru called miners, right? So these are miners with 0.99

01:15:57.260 technology, uh, the descriptives that came out and this whole thing is very

01:16:01.600 strange and shrouded in mystery. And you only get these anecdotal stories that

01:16:05.940 bleed out onto the internet. It's hard to make heads or tails of what the

01:16:08.800 situation is, but one of the descriptives was sort of these armored beings that

01:16:15.200 had, um, an aesthetic that is closely resembling green goblin from a spider

01:16:21.460 man is the way they described it. Although I don't think there was any green

01:16:24.100 involved, uh, and that they hovered three meters off the floor as they moved

01:16:29.180 through the forest and that they were basically surgically peeling people's

01:16:35.200 faces off. And I don't know what to make of that. I don't jump towards aliens. To me,

01:16:40.180 that sounds like a technology based thing that sounds like, um, I wouldn't be

01:16:45.020 surprised if, if the more information we got, the more it painted a picture of a

01:16:49.920 military operation or something of that nature. Um, and even a video came out of

01:16:55.100 them retrieving a young girl. I think she was like 15 or something who they, they

01:17:00.520 actually intervened and stopped these things allegedly, uh, from peeling her face

01:17:05.860 off around her jaw. You could see that there was these incision marks and she was

01:17:09.380 bleeding and she was traumatized, but otherwise the video was just a bunch of

01:17:12.680 shouting Peruvian people. You can't really, you don't know what this is. Um,

01:17:17.000 I know that Timothy Albarino, the, uh, the archeologist is very much, uh, of this

01:17:23.440 school of thought that this has been a recurring issue for the natives of Peru,

01:17:29.060 something that they've been dealing with for months preceding the events that we

01:17:32.600 saw popularized on the internet and that made it to Western, uh, media. But when I see

01:17:38.380 things like that, I can't help, but kind of place that on the same table that I might

01:17:45.560 place something like some sort of sanctioned operation operation rather that's happening

01:17:51.560 in national forest. That's, that's a sort of turn that a lot of people take, right? Like

01:17:56.060 something is happening in these natural, uh, national forests, these national parks that,

01:18:00.820 um, is being allowed to take place. It is of maybe a governmental nature and, you know,

01:18:08.920 they're protected by the fact that this is a national national park and therefore people 0.92

01:18:13.160 can't really come snooping and you can't launch, uh, an investigation in these places that the,

01:18:17.700 the woodlands are so dense. Um, but what, what do you, what, what were your thoughts? Did you guys

01:18:22.860 tackle that at all? This Peru, uh, event?

01:18:25.140 Like, so I, I didn't, I think when I heard about this, I was actually down at Tim Poole's compound.

01:18:33.040 Um, if I remember correctly. Uh, and I think I talked to, I talked to Brett and, uh, Phil about

01:18:38.620 it. If I, I think I did at least, um, what I remember, what I remember thinking about reading

01:18:44.480 through it was this seems like humans, um, that I, this does not sound like aliens and it does not

01:18:50.520 sound like any sort of like monster to me. This sounds like human beings. I never looked too

01:18:55.400 deeply into it because of that. Uh, but I also did not come across the video you're talking about.

01:19:03.100 So it might've been a function of when I looked, but yeah, that's, I mean, to me that, that sounds

01:19:10.520 a lot like illegal, uh, like organ harvesting. Um, I mean, the idea of like peeling someone's face off

01:19:17.280 doesn't have a ton of, a ton of applications, you know, that's what, that was my thinking

01:19:23.020 about it. It's like, why even do this? And there's these videos of them pulling a body out of the

01:19:27.240 river and the body has, you know, no face it's, it's white skull exposed essentially. And there

01:19:32.600 are a lot of claims that this was essentially someone who died and face planted in the water

01:19:39.540 and piranhas and things like that had access to the face. Um, which to me checked out, I go,

01:19:46.580 well, that's, that's reasonable, right? If somebody dies and they fall and their, their

01:19:49.900 head is the only thing that lands in the river and their body's just laying there before anybody

01:19:53.040 finds them, all sorts of aquatic life is going to have at your face. This is, this could, right.

01:19:58.960 And so, but then all of a sudden all of the, uh, media outlets that are tackling this, they're

01:20:05.040 all making this correlation as if this is real. And it's like, okay, well, uh, obviously if

01:20:09.900 it bleeds, it leads. And so there's a real, um, got to pull up this guy. This guy's, he's my

01:20:15.400 co-host on my other show. Is this true? Uh, yeah. Wendy Goon and I have a show called

01:20:20.060 the weird Bible podcast. Okay, cool. Just make his day and say, shout out Cole. That's

01:20:24.320 it. Yeah. Shout out to Cole. I'll do it in front of the weird Bible podcast too. I don't 0.99

01:20:29.820 care. We're filming that in a couple of weeks. Oh, awesome. That's hilarious. He won't stop

01:20:36.380 about Wendy Goon. He will not. He's freaking out right now. I have not, you know what I've

01:20:42.100 watched like some of his episode and he's like, have you finished it? And I said, you

01:20:45.600 know what? I'm not going to watch it anymore. I do. I do the show. And I like out of, out

01:20:49.740 of pure spite, but maybe I will now. Cause you seem really cool. Aiden just, just to spite

01:20:53.660 Dave. If you like, if you like the Nephilim stuff, uh, I can actually, you're a weird Bible. 0.65

01:21:01.860 It has its own channel and everything. Oh yeah. No, I know. We know about Wendy. I'm just messing

01:21:05.480 around cause he loves him so much. Every, every time we bring up some sort of conspiracy,

01:21:08.940 he's like, Oh my God, like Wendigoon. And I'm like, you know what? Oh yeah. He's talked

01:21:11.720 about all of it. Uh, there was one, I'm trying to remember which it was. Uh, cause there's

01:21:18.660 a couple of episodes from the show where we talked about, uh, Nephilim and, um, angels

01:21:25.540 and demons. Yeah. Uh, episodes here. I'll, I'll grab them and I can send them to you guys.

01:21:33.060 Yeah. What's the name of your, uh, what's the name of the show again? The one I do with

01:21:36.800 Wendigoon is the weird Bible podcast, the weird Bible podcast. All right. You've got 0.95

01:21:40.780 at least one new subscriber. I'm checking that out. Thank you. Yeah. Here's a, yeah. Here

01:21:45.620 are the two that I believe deal with, um, Nephilim sent them to you in the chat, but awesome.

01:21:54.100 Yeah. But as for the aliens thing, um, I think, I think the biggest problem we have right now

01:21:59.260 with anything like that is the way that media works and how it's, you know, uh, something

01:22:04.880 gets out there and there's immediately 150 TikTok conspiracy accounts saying this is what's

01:22:11.260 happening in Peru and, you know, news reports and, you know, of course they're, you know,

01:22:16.200 relying on like the national inquirer as their source. Uh, so by the time it even gets to

01:22:23.840 somebody like me's desk, I'm already like, Oh God, you know, and everybody else has already

01:22:31.160 decided what it is. Somebody faked a video and now the whole internet thinks it's this

01:22:36.160 like, you know, I mean, uh, I'm trying to remember, Oh, a great example of this, the MH370 stuff that

01:22:42.560 just happened. I saw, I saw you getting in the dirt a little bit. What happened there? What

01:22:47.460 was that about? Ashton Forbes basically posts this video that, uh, seems to, did the mind

01:22:52.560 share? It did. No, that got higher. Okay. There we go. That's what that was. Um, so I have

01:22:59.280 a standing desk that I only ever use sitting, but, uh, yeah. So what happened with that

01:23:04.720 was that I was just scrolling through social media. I was on Twitter and I come across a post

01:23:10.580 by Ashton Forbes. That's like, here's a video of MH370 being sucked into a wormhole. And I went,

01:23:16.280 I know next to nothing about this. I was 16 when it happened. That's it. That's that's,

01:23:23.840 I remember a plane went missing and everybody was confused because they didn't find any of the

01:23:28.500 debris for a while. Uh, so it was just disappeared for like two years. Um, and I, I comment or I re,

01:23:36.960 I re retweeted it and I said, you know, I know very little about this, but I'm intrigued. Should

01:23:41.360 I not be intrigued? A lot of people were like, you should be intrigued. So I reached out to Ashton

01:23:45.700 and I said, Hey, do you want to come on the show and talk about this? And he said, sure. Uh, we

01:23:49.680 planned for November 19th and I planned that the Friday before that we would put out a video on MH370

01:23:55.660 as a primer and also so I could go back and learn and study and see what came up. Uh, we did that and

01:24:02.040 we talked primarily about the story and why we don't like the official narrative. And then part two

01:24:07.960 was quick recap and the conspiracy theories and why we like, or don't like them. The one that I liked

01:24:16.120 the best was this was a lithium ion battery fire. There were 221 kilograms of lithium ion batteries

01:24:22.440 in the cargo hold of the plane. They were not properly insulated. The way that lithium ion

01:24:27.060 batteries work is that if a fire starts on one, it will rapidly spread to the next one, creating a

01:24:32.020 trained reaction. Uh, and when you're talking about a sealed pack of lithium ion batteries that are all

01:24:37.940 simultaneously on fire, uh, really in any sealed compartment, that's a pressure, that's a pressure

01:24:43.500 bomb that is going to go off at some point. Uh, I think that's what happened. I think the fire

01:24:48.620 probably spread to the electrical systems, knocked them out and the plane went down. Um,

01:24:53.640 yeah, that's in my opinion, the reason that it was kind of like, so weirdly handled by world

01:25:00.480 governments and media is that that's pretty embarrassing for the FAA. Yeah. That's kind

01:25:05.360 of like a, especially when everything's trying to move into this, like electric, you know, that's

01:25:09.400 the direction go green, right? This is like the same thing that I saw happen. I believe it was in

01:25:13.480 New Jersey. We had a big storm, a bunch of Teslas ended up when they first got rolled out, something

01:25:18.540 went wrong. And like all of the Teslas exploded in fantastic fashion, like devastatingly. And so,

01:25:25.460 yeah, when you're trying to tell everybody to go green and go electric, maybe you do just,

01:25:30.020 maybe that's why the MH, what is it? 370. That's why it gets buried is because of climate change.

01:25:37.340 How awful. Yeah. And in a way that's kind of what I think happened is like for some reason or

01:25:42.220 another, this lithium ion battery fire screwed up somebody's plans. Um, and at the very, you know,

01:25:49.540 it could have been as simple as like, Oh God, if people find out about this, they're never going

01:25:53.600 to fly again. Um, if people find out that we've actually been allowing people to fly with bombs

01:25:59.520 in the cargo compartment, then who's going to ever trust the FAA, the United Nations Civil Aviation

01:26:05.420 Authority, like all of the different groups who two years later in completely unconnected fashion

01:26:10.400 banned the carrying of lithium ion batteries on passenger planes, uh, over certain amounts,

01:26:16.020 you can have like your cell phone in the cabin with you because it's very easy to put out one

01:26:20.760 lithium ion battery, very difficult to put out an entire cargo hold full of them. Um, so you can

01:26:26.320 still have them in the cabin. You just can't have them anywhere that is not, uh, accessible by the

01:26:33.120 crew, such as the cargo hold, which during flights is not accessible to the crew. So I think that

01:26:39.720 that's most likely what happened to the plane. What happened with Ashton was that at the end of

01:26:45.980 our second video, we kind of went over his, the videos he had shared. And we were very careful to

01:26:52.080 not say this is Ashton's theory to not say these are Ashton's videos. We were basically like Ashton

01:26:57.180 Forbes put this information out. And then we went and talked about the information with leaving Ashton

01:27:02.020 entirely out of it. And the reason we left Ashton entirely out of it is because we disagreed with

01:27:06.420 him and we didn't want him to feel like we were coming for him. We were piling up because

01:27:09.720 we weren't, we, we had a professional disagreement with the guy. Uh, and that was based upon the

01:27:16.080 fact that my cohost, my editor, Aiden was able, we're both Aiden. Um, he was able to, yeah, replicate

01:27:23.040 the effect at least one frame of it. He was able to replicate in a dope. You the guys, you the guys

01:27:29.420 who debunked those videos. So we, we were one of the groups who did, uh, interesting. We did not have

01:27:35.980 the most complete one. Ours was basically, Hey, here's the thermal video. Um, and we took the

01:27:44.480 animation of the, the wormhole opening up that was allegedly fake, uh, that everybody had come

01:27:50.580 out and said, this is an asset from a nineties video game. And the asset, the asset mostly matched

01:27:54.880 at first when nothing had been color corrected at all. Uh, but it definitely wasn't exactly the same

01:28:00.940 prior to any color correction, uh, which is what I said to Ashton on the live show.

01:28:05.740 And so when we go to do the video, Aiden wanted to take a crack at it, see if he could figure it

01:28:09.720 out. So he changed the tint and the saturation to remove all color. And when he removed the color

01:28:17.540 and it just turned to black, a lot of the little imperfections that didn't match disappeared

01:28:23.500 completely. And the end result was that you had a single frame, at least that was a perfect

01:28:29.500 one-for-one match to what was in the video. Now, the likelihood of that is astronomical.

01:28:37.920 There's almost no chance that you're going to have something that happened in real life that

01:28:44.660 was caught on video perfectly match a designed asset from a lab for even one frame.

01:28:51.860 What game is it? The asset you said it was from a game.

01:28:53.920 It was from an asset pack, like a, basically a royalty. You went and you bought the asset pack

01:28:59.800 and you had no royalties. So these, these are effects that have been used in multiple movies and

01:29:04.440 video games throughout the nineties and early two thousands. I think one of them, one of the

01:29:07.640 items in the pack was used in star Wars. Like, so he matched one frame perfectly. The reason he

01:29:15.580 didn't go on and match all five frames perfectly is that he didn't feel like it was necessary.

01:29:22.240 Yeah. Just cause of the likelihood. Uh, and he didn't have time. So we were in the process of

01:29:29.460 actually doing all five and matching all five frames perfectly. So we could show people a video

01:29:34.760 where it was just layered right in and see if they could tell the difference. Uh, then, then it

01:29:41.840 basically came out that yes, the videos were in fact fake. It was proven they were fake. The assets

01:29:46.840 were the original source assets were posted. Ashton admitted he was wrong. Um, but you know,

01:29:53.040 he's still in the process. And I remember saying to him, I remember saying to him privately, Hey,

01:29:57.640 I like what you're doing. I like the passion you have, but you gotta make sure you're, you're careful

01:30:02.460 that you only say stuff that you can, you can really provide evidence for, or that you can at the

01:30:07.860 very least say, Hey, it was reasonable at the time for me to believe this given the information that

01:30:13.880 was available. And I said, you just need to be careful. But if you, if you make sure you follow

01:30:18.920 those two rules, you will, you will be fine. No matter how this ends, you will have established

01:30:24.240 yourself as somebody who can do investigative content and you can be in a good place, even if

01:30:30.160 you're wrong. Right. I mean, it's still what he did was that. Right. And that's where, I mean,

01:30:35.680 what the work he did was incredibly extensive, the hours that he put in, but if he would have

01:30:40.160 gone the route that you described, you still have this credibility as someone who's willing to

01:30:45.520 beat the analytics to death, which is what we need in this realm of like the unknown, right? With all

01:30:51.160 these different accusations and all these different claims being thrown around to have somebody who's

01:30:55.440 willing to tear things apart on such a minute level is, is exactly what you want. But instead it seems

01:31:02.540 that I suppose when you put that many, it's the same thing. You go to a university and you dump in

01:31:08.740 all of this money, you, you become indebted, you put in countless hours and now it's very hard for

01:31:15.340 you to say, actually the information that I was fed was, was wrong. Yeah. Uh, it's, it's time invested

01:31:22.800 that makes it almost part of your identity. And for him, uh, it, it certainly was, he became synonymous

01:31:29.740 with that, with that theory. And I mean, still to this day, I look at it and I go, damn dude,

01:31:35.020 that was awesome. Like what you did was awesome. The work that you put in was awesome. It's a shame

01:31:38.800 that it, you know, it can't be recognized as that. Yeah. It's you, that's the, this, the,

01:31:47.360 the difficult part of all of this, the style of content creation is when you are talking about

01:31:52.340 the unknown, there is always a chance that what you're talking about will become known.

01:31:58.320 Like, and then you've got to be prepared to deal with that because you might be wrong. And

01:32:01.860 for a very long time, I was, I was kind of in the same position with missing four on one where I was

01:32:07.400 like, no, I, I'm, I firmly believe this and I will prove it. And it just got to a point where there was

01:32:14.480 an overwhelming amount of evidence that the exact belief I had was wrong. And I had to go, all right,

01:32:24.240 well, based on what I have here, I still don't feel like this is something mundane and normal.

01:32:31.500 I feel like there's something going on here, but I got to revisit, I got to look back and got to say,

01:32:36.360 all right, you know, what did I miss? Where could I have been better? Uh, you know, where,

01:32:41.680 where did I make a connection that wasn't there? And is there another possibility?

01:32:46.000 And unfortunately that's, I mean, that's, that's hard on your ego to go. Yeah, I was,

01:32:52.480 I was wrong. And now I'm going to make a video where I say I was wrong. And that video where I

01:32:57.100 say I was wrong is going to be seen by more people than the video where I was wrong.

01:33:01.800 That's it. It's good for you as a, how old are you, Aiden? 26. And it's good for you as a person,

01:33:07.600 as a man, um, to, well, it doesn't really matter what you're doing, whether you're dabbling in

01:33:12.320 front of a huge, you know, 370,000 people audience, or if you're just being like raising

01:33:19.300 your kid, you know, even with your girlfriend, you're going to be wrong sometimes. And being

01:33:23.840 able to kind of eat shit a little bit is super useful. So, you know, it's unfortunately it's

01:33:29.440 sink or swim for the people who are in this kind of realm that are doing this. We're going to be wrong

01:33:33.460 all the time. Clearly I'm going to be wrong way more than you're wrong, Aiden, because we don't

01:33:37.040 know what we're talking about. I'm going to be wrong if it's anything regarding math. So

01:33:40.000 yeah, or electricity. We already like, we have no idea, but yeah, no, it's, it's a great,

01:33:45.200 it's a great lesson to take away and be like, yeah, you know what I can be wrong and we can still

01:33:49.460 continue to search and have an open mind, especially with people like you in this field.

01:33:54.360 It's like, you're the, you're the kind of person that they should be. The general population

01:33:58.800 should be looking for someone who's like, might be wrong, but let's find out what the hell happened

01:34:05.540 or like, I'm open, you know, I'm open to see what's going on. I love that. I personally love

01:34:09.520 that in content creators. It was just people in general. So yeah, thank you.

01:34:13.520 Yeah. That's, that's all I want to do is there's, there's weird stuff out there and I just want to

01:34:18.260 find out what it is. Oh yeah. I think that that's one of the things like, you know, the show is

01:34:24.860 called Nephilim death squad, but we tackle all topics. Nephilim death squad, I think is just a

01:34:29.920 banger of a name. It just hits hard, you know? Um, but you know, I think the, in content creation,

01:34:36.100 one of the worst things that you can do, especially in content creation related to the unknown is to

01:34:41.640 like pigeonhole yourself as the, the missing plane guy or, or just the, the Nephilim guy or the whatever

01:34:49.580 guy. It's like, because you're somehow tying your identity into a theory and that theory is going

01:34:56.440 to evolve over time. And if you're intrinsically tied into it, that means that you're going to be

01:35:01.540 forced, uh, to, to sort of become part of the public image of that theory. And that's a strange

01:35:06.760 place to be in. There's no reason to be there. There's no reason to be there. You're not the

01:35:10.080 information. You're just exploring it. And, and it's a real tricky thing to do because these things

01:35:16.620 are, were certainly previously more difficult to explore, but now, uh, you know, the, the climate

01:35:24.400 has changed a little bit, but because they're sort of taboo subjects in the first place, the last

01:35:29.740 thing you want to do is become synonymous with one or the other. Exactly. The one thing I will

01:35:34.300 definitely say is to anybody interested in making this kind of content or doing independent research,

01:35:39.660 the, the value of a J store subscription, it is $20 a month.

01:35:46.620 The amount of access you get to the actual academic source that's being cited is priceless.

01:35:53.840 I mean, it is, there have been so many situations where I read something that somebody like somebody

01:36:01.020 said something out there and I went weird. What's their source? Oh, it's from a journal article.

01:36:08.400 Went and read the journal article and nope, it's not what it says at all. Just utterly invaluable.

01:36:16.620 Hmm. Many such cases, man. But, uh, I think that that's actually a great place to leave it because

01:36:22.500 I have some things to do in, um, an hour. We got to be back on for another two hours. We're going to

01:36:29.260 be on with, uh, Josie. Yeah. Josie, the redhead libertarian. We're doing a spaces. Yeah. I mean,

01:36:35.520 listen, if you want to hop in, hop in. It's a spaces about the paranormal. So bring your a game

01:36:39.580 motherfucker. We're talking about high strangeness and we want to have, you know, you people that

01:36:44.580 whoever's listening, colon, we're, we want to, we want to hear what you have to say. Maybe

01:36:49.180 Aiden could be there and just debunk you in real time, which would be amazing.

01:36:52.340 Like I got, I got my own, my own show at seven, but I might be able to pop in for a little while

01:36:58.260 there. And, uh, we, we've got a lot of fun. We've got a loose confirmation from both Shane

01:37:03.040 Cashman and, and Tony Merkel that they, they may pop in and just share some stuff with us. So

01:37:11.300 I got, I got some beef with Shane. Really? No, no real beef. He doesn't even know who I am.

01:37:17.440 Aiden is one of the bears. He's one of the bears on the edge of his bear suit. I do not. There was

01:37:24.320 just a, there was one thing Shane said on Tim cast like a year and a half ago that I just shook my

01:37:29.380 head and was like, damn it. Was it about the clouds? The clouds aren't real. I can't remember

01:37:33.380 what it was. It was such a long time ago. It was not real beef. I was just like, Oh God, I

01:37:37.460 like, I wish you hadn't said that. Uh, clouds are not real. Yeah. All right. That's for another

01:37:47.520 time. Yeah. You got a lot to learn. So let us know and let everybody know one last time, Aiden,

01:37:53.160 uh, where they can find your work and then we'll get out of here. Sure thing. Uh, sorry. My dog

01:37:57.240 is sitting on the chair behind me. So I'm going to move my books. Uh, yeah. So I am a Mattis. I am

01:38:03.080 the host and lead researcher of a channel called the lore lodge. I am also the guy behind the weird

01:38:08.500 Bible, the history hut, my own personal channel, uh, Aiden Mattis. And you can find me any of those

01:38:14.060 places. You can also find me on Twitter at Aiden Mattis or at the lore lodge. Uh, actually it might

01:38:18.580 be at lore lodge at lore lodge. And also, um, I'm basically everywhere is at the Aiden Mattis or Aiden

01:38:24.060 Mattis. Awesome. I got to follow your personal account, but thank you again for coming on. Uh,

01:38:29.380 I'm always baffled when like people, very smart people, people with large platforms decide to

01:38:34.400 talk to us. Uh, thank you. You dropped some knowledge on us and I'm very appreciative.

01:38:39.380 Hopefully we'll see you a little bit later. And, uh, I'll try and stop in. Hell yeah. Thank you,

01:38:44.800 man. All right. All right, guys. We'll catch you in an hour. See you later.

01:38:48.440 The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room. It is constantly

01:38:55.480 telling us what to believe is real. You can persuade them that what they see with their

01:39:01.560 eyes is what there is to see. Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays

01:39:09.300 the bigger picture of what's happening. And they have.

Nephilim Death Squad - January 05, 2024

019： The Lore Lodge w⧸ Aiden Mattis

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