Nephilim Death Squad - 02： Christian Embarrassment - The Book of Genesis w⧸ Ed Mabrie

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00:01:13.100 We are being hypnotized by people like this.

00:01:21.340 Newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

00:01:26.020 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:01:33.700 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely sick people.

00:01:40.340 Oh, yeah, dude.

00:01:41.560 There's some Nephilim shit.

00:01:42.740 It's like we all know what's going down.

00:01:45.400 We know we're saying shit what happened to the home of the brave.

00:01:48.820 Motherf***ers, they're controlling us now.

00:01:50.580 We know we're talking about how they made us proud of these slaves.

00:01:53.480 And everybody's just walking around out in the clouds.

00:01:56.460 I want to wake up to a dead in the grave.

00:01:58.920 But it's too late.

00:01:59.900 We need to be ready to raise up.

00:02:01.720 Welcome to the end of the game.

00:02:03.460 Everybody is slaves.

00:02:04.900 Only some are aware that the government releases...

00:02:07.480 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.

00:02:13.560 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.

00:02:16.260 That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.

00:02:18.880 And today is Friday, and Fridays are for the Lord, baby.

00:02:24.360 And so we are back once again with the continuation of our Book of Genesis series, episode number two.

00:02:30.940 Welcoming back Ed Mabry.

00:02:32.600 But before we get into today's episode, Ed, tell the people where they can find your work.

00:02:37.260 Sure.

00:02:37.960 So my primary spot, my legacy spot, is faithbyreason.net.

00:02:43.040 That's my website.

00:02:43.780 That's where you'll find all the stuff I've been doing for years.

00:02:46.340 I've been blogging since the Obama administration.

00:02:49.400 I've started doing podcasts around COVID and videos and things like that.

00:02:54.660 So all that stuff is there.

00:02:55.720 And also my YouTube channel, Faith by Reason.

00:02:59.460 And my newest venture is my Patreon.

00:03:03.300 So that's for folks who want to take a deeper dive.

00:03:05.980 If you go into the first tier of Patreon, that's where you'll get all of my stuff first.

00:03:10.480 I put it on Patreon before I put it onto any other public platform, including my own website.

00:03:16.160 So you get everything first there.

00:03:18.200 You also will get bonus exclusive content that I'm not going to be putting out to the public because I don't want any more YouTube strikes on me.

00:03:25.020 So I don't get banned off that.

00:03:27.380 And also Q&As.

00:03:29.020 If you ask your questions, I will answer them, do a video every week.

00:03:32.480 Actually, I'm going to be dropping my Q&A for this week later today.

00:03:34.920 I've just been having that time to edit it.

00:03:37.200 But that should go down today.

00:03:38.240 And if you want to take it up to another level, the second tier, then you can be a part of my monthly Bible study called the Jehovah Story Book Club, where we go through the entire Bible in one year.

00:03:50.400 And we focus on the supernatural point of view and the spiritual point of view, because that's 80% of the Bible is all supernatural.

00:03:58.180 And if you miss that, if you think it's just about men, if you think it's just about humanity, you're missing out.

00:04:02.820 That's why a lot of people don't understand what's really going on in the Bible.

00:04:06.260 And God is confusing, and his motivations seem odd, and the way he does things doesn't really sync up, because you're looking at it as if it's our story.

00:04:14.220 It's not our story.

00:04:15.000 It's his story.

00:04:15.700 And he is a spiritual being, and other spiritual beings are involved.

00:04:19.780 And that's what it's all about.

00:04:21.760 And it's been life-changing for a lot of people.

00:04:24.060 It's really helped their walk with God.

00:04:26.080 And that's the whole purpose of it, to help you understand God better and improve your walk with him.

00:04:30.800 So come on aboard.

00:04:32.200 Love to have you.

00:04:32.660 This, yeah, all your work is definitely, I don't know if it has changed my mind, but it has made things a lot more clear for me as to what I thought I believed before.

00:04:42.520 Now I kind of know why.

00:04:43.540 So there's a faith by reason right there.

00:04:44.960 Yeah, everybody sign up.

00:04:46.640 If you're a Christian, you know the what.

00:04:48.360 But I want to help you understand the why and why it makes sense, why you don't have to have these blind leaps, and why you don't have to be embarrassed about anything.

00:04:55.040 We're going to get into some of that today with Genesis about Christian embarrassment and why you don't have to be embarrassed.

00:04:59.840 I'm excited to get into the meat of the episode today, but I do want to say one thing on that topic.

00:05:05.180 And that's, I just want to thank everybody because this is something that I forget to address a lot.

00:05:10.000 Just this morning, another one came in, and they come in on a regular basis.

00:05:13.340 And it's almost jarring because in so many ways, I wouldn't say that we're degenerates, but we are retards.

00:05:21.420 Like, we don't engage in any sort of, like, debased behavior, but obviously, you know, we're inflammatory characters.

00:05:26.540 It's wild that we could be in the capacity that we are in and then receive these messages from people saying, thank you for reigniting my passion in Christ.

00:05:37.560 It's a wild thing.

00:05:38.840 So I just want to thank those people.

00:05:40.160 If you're one of those people that has reached out to us and it happens constantly, thank you, because that's hugely meaningful.

00:05:46.760 I didn't know that that was going to be something that I derived from this show.

00:05:49.580 Certainly not while we started.

00:05:50.960 We just started, you know, doing it because Top and I had this intrigue or this interest in the topic.

00:05:56.220 And then organically, it just turned into whatever this is.

00:05:59.440 And somehow this thing brings people closer to God.

00:06:01.620 So truly blessed to be able to do that.

00:06:03.400 I want to start off with kind of a question before we get into it.

00:06:07.240 And that question is, do you believe that we existed before we were here in this world in a physical way?

00:06:17.740 Good question.

00:06:18.640 I want to address that.

00:06:19.400 But first, I want to just echo what you said, because I get a lot of those same comments as well.

00:06:22.600 And I don't respond.

00:06:24.060 So I'll give a hard or a thumbs up because I just have – I'm just really busy.

00:06:29.000 It's so much, yeah.

00:06:29.840 But I want to say again, for those of you who give me those messages about how encouraged you are by what I do and how much it's helped you, I really – that keeps me going.

00:06:38.780 So I want you guys to know that it's not falling on deaf ears.

00:06:41.060 And I don't take it lightly.

00:06:42.300 I take it very, very seriously.

00:06:43.940 And I really appreciate it because that just – it's why I'm doing it.

00:06:48.740 And the appreciation that I'm getting from folks, it means a ton – excuse me, it means a ton to me.

00:06:55.140 So your question, did we exist before we were created?

00:07:00.780 And I understand why – well, I don't know the background of the question for you, but I've heard the question before.

00:07:06.120 And the genesis behind it, no pun intended, is that a lot of people talk about the spiritual world is eternal.

00:07:13.640 So does that mean that we were eternal spirits?

00:07:16.520 And that even gets into a little bit of Mormonism because there's a belief system in that – I'm no expert on Mormonism, but I know that there's this idea that there are spirit beings floating around and they need bodies to go into.

00:07:30.660 Well, wait, because I've almost said – I've been dishonest, Ed, with that question.

00:07:34.600 So let me fill you in on exactly why I've asked you so that way you can answer it with all the information.

00:07:40.380 The reason that I ask is because –

00:07:41.600 You're being dishonest? I'm rubbing off on you, huh?

00:07:42.980 That's what's happened.

00:07:43.680 But I can't – I don't like the way it feels, so I got to – yesterday we did an episode with Megan and Not Nice Guy of Artificial Dissemination HD.

00:07:52.080 They are Mormons, and we had this conversation.

00:07:55.000 They're trying to steal man.

00:07:56.160 Mormonism was a fascinating conversation because Mormonism is fascinating.

00:07:59.340 There's a ton of really wild stuff there, but one of the things that they said was that they believe that they were existing in some form before a physical carnation in this planet,

00:08:10.940 and one of the things they used to bolster that was this idea that in the Bible it talks about, I knew you before you were in your mother's womb.

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00:09:46.260 And that's a fascinating logistical statement because what is there to know of us if there was nothing,

00:09:53.600 you know, if we didn't exist?

00:09:55.180 So it almost suggests like we have to exist in some way, shape, or form because otherwise there's nothing to know.

00:10:01.580 But, I mean, I'd like to hear your take on that.

00:10:03.500 Yeah. So, good question.

00:10:06.560 Again, and that's, so your reasoning is similar to the reasoning I've heard before,

00:10:11.040 that we broke that very verse, which is, you didn't misquote it,

00:10:14.880 but the way it is in English, it leads you to not, for it not to be understood fully.

00:10:20.940 So, so that combined with the idea that, you know, if you were, if there's eternity and eternity has no time,

00:10:27.320 it's not bound by past, present, and future, and we are all spirit beings,

00:10:31.660 then shouldn't that, you know, in human bodies right now,

00:10:34.520 wouldn't we, wouldn't we also be eternal with their infinitely, infinite past, infinite future?

00:10:39.660 So, we have to have already existed, and then we get these bodies.

00:10:43.480 The short answer is no, and here's why.

00:10:47.280 Yes, our spirits are eternal, but just because you're eternal doesn't mean you didn't have a,

00:10:51.280 you didn't have a beginning.

00:10:53.500 God is eternal. He's had, he has no beginning, but the rest of us,

00:10:58.440 the rest of created beings are just that, we're created.

00:11:00.760 The angels, the Elohim were created.

00:11:02.820 They are eternal. Now, they will not have an end.

00:11:05.700 That's what, the definition of eternity, and that's why it's important to always have definitions.

00:11:08.820 This is something that Top looked up and brought up, and I was fascinated with what he found.

00:11:14.420 Top, wasn't it like, it's, it's basically an indescribable amount of time, but it is an amount of time?

00:11:20.420 Right. Well, eternity means without end.

00:11:23.340 That's what it means.

00:11:24.680 It's not, and I saw someone just came up, had a, came up on the chat there,

00:11:28.060 and he said God has, is outside of time.

00:11:30.000 God is outside of physical time.

00:11:33.060 God does not experience time the way we do.

00:11:35.000 Our physical time is, is very different than, time is a sequence of events.

00:11:40.900 God experiences sequences of events, but he doesn't experience it the way we do.

00:11:45.720 How does he experience it exactly?

00:11:47.660 That's a little more debatable.

00:11:49.180 We talked about that during the Revelation series when we looked at, at, at, excuse me, Revelation chapter 12,

00:11:54.780 which is basically a story of everything happening at once.

00:11:57.560 So they were happening in a sequence, but also happening at once.

00:12:01.240 And it's tough for us to wrap our minds around that because we are stuck in physical time where everything goes in one direction.

00:12:07.080 And we, so we see things happening, you know, step by step by step.

00:12:12.180 And, and again, going only in that one direction.

00:12:15.480 The present only lasts for, you know, a micro, the smallest segment of time.

00:12:20.240 Um, then, then the next thing, if it's the future, God is in the, is always in the present, but things still happen in a sequence.

00:12:27.540 So he experienced this time in the sense he experiences a sequence of events.

00:12:31.420 He just doesn't experience physical time the way we, he's not, it's better to say he's not bound by physical time, but back to, to your question.

00:12:39.680 So eternity means without end.

00:12:41.460 So, but it doesn't mean you don't have a beginning.

00:12:43.880 God has no beginning or end, but, but we do have a beginning.

00:12:49.040 So we are not, we were not, we didn't exist in the past.

00:12:52.420 We didn't exist before we were created.

00:12:54.720 So, um, that verse is in Jeremiah, but it says before I formed you in your mother's womb, I knew you.

00:13:00.800 So what does that mean?

00:13:02.320 Forming does not mean when that word form.

00:13:05.580 If you look at it in the, in the actual Hebrew, it does not mean before the sperm entered the egg forming means when it's growing and there's evidence, even in science that when a, when a baby goes, goes from, you know, from a fertilized egg to a zygote, it requires input of information from outside of the mother.

00:13:25.320 Is this why that works really well with that idea that there's a flash of light when, when a sperm, uh, you know, enters an egg, um, and that light might be seen as, I mean, literally the way that information is exchanged is like an electrical synopsis, right?

00:13:39.740 Like a flash of light.

00:13:40.720 Have you ever seen it?

00:13:41.640 You ever seen a video of it?

00:13:43.260 I have seen it.

00:13:43.780 Yeah, it's wild.

00:13:44.640 I haven't, I haven't, I'd love to, but I haven't, I've heard, I haven't seen a video of it.

00:13:47.820 Yeah, it's beautiful.

00:13:49.000 It's like, that's like when, when, once it breaks this barrier, it is like a small barrier from the egg.

00:13:53.920 And once that sperm drills its way through, it's like a, like a brilliant flash of light.

00:13:57.580 And then it's in there and it's doing, and then that's when things start.

00:14:00.560 It's like, there's, that's when it starts.

00:14:02.540 That's interesting.

00:14:03.340 So, so in a way God can almost be saying that I knew you since then.

00:14:07.900 That's exactly the point.

00:14:09.000 So when he says forming you, it means when he's, when it starts dividing and growing, he's forming it then he's for, but it didn't, but he didn't say before you were, before the sperm hit the egg.

00:14:19.880 Right, right, right.

00:14:21.080 Oh, that's fascinating.

00:14:21.860 So when he says, you know, you, what does that mean?

00:14:23.160 That's information.

00:14:24.540 He knew your information.

00:14:26.320 He knew what you were going to be because once, once the egg is fertilized, all of your potential is there.

00:14:32.560 So God knows what you're going to become.

00:14:35.380 So he can say that as soon as that egg is fertilized, okay, now I know what this person is going to be.

00:14:40.260 He didn't know you before that because how many sperm are swimming around there?

00:14:43.040 He doesn't know which, you know, once he hits the egg, now I know you before I start forming you.

00:14:48.160 I know that you're going, he was saying this is Jeremiah.

00:14:50.240 He knew Jeremiah's personality.

00:14:51.460 I know based on this genetic information, I know that what kind of person you're going to be.

00:14:57.200 He didn't know what the choices he was going to make, but he knew what his tendencies were.

00:14:59.940 He knew what kind of person he was going to be before I started forming you.

00:15:03.640 That's what that means.

00:15:04.420 It doesn't mean he was an eternal spirit.

00:15:06.600 I like that.

00:15:07.040 That's fascinating.

00:15:07.780 We've actually used that and I'll detach after this, but we've, we've used that and explored that topic of that flash of light to, to explain why potentially the Shroud of Turin has like, it's only like three micrometers thick or something like that.

00:15:24.000 That impression that is the, the visage of Jesus allegedly, and in certain lights, you can't even see it.

00:15:29.080 Um, and you know, so there became this discussion about how it almost seems like it's been burned into the fabric, but how in the hell would that happen?

00:15:37.520 And then we thought back about, you know, this idea of when the sperm enters the egg, there's a flash of light.

00:15:42.140 Well, maybe when a soul reenters a body period, you know, there's a flash of light.

00:15:47.280 And what happens when that happens to a, uh, uh, you know, a 33 year old man, uh, is it a much more substantial flash of light?

00:15:53.740 Is it capable of imprinting, uh, something on, on some fabric potentially?

00:15:57.860 So yeah, it totally makes sense to me because that's when, that's when it becomes a life when, you know, when, when, when, when the egg is fertilized and, and of course Jesus was dead.

00:16:04.780 He, he did not have that physical life and of course, and it came back.

00:16:07.940 And so, yeah, that's, that's, that's a really good, um, correlation.

00:16:11.740 And I've been hearing, I, I mean, I'll be honest with you.

00:16:13.960 I've never done a deep dive into the Shroud of Turin.

00:16:15.860 I probably need to, I'll be honest.

00:16:18.200 When I, I first heard about it when I was a kid and I was kind of dismissed it because it just seemed really, really goofy.

00:16:23.740 It's been kind of goofy, goofy, really, really Catholic.

00:16:26.600 And I was like, Hey, you know that, and, and I got to get over some of my biases, but it just seemed like, it seemed like one of those things, not, you know, how they have all these different monuments, you know, in Catholicism and all these different things.

00:16:37.900 It's just another one of those things.

00:16:40.180 But, um, the more I learned about it, the more I think, and I, I, and I actually think maybe it's just a fraud, but there seems to be a lot of evidence for it.

00:16:46.960 I was listening to something recently.

00:16:48.260 I think it may have been on tinfoil hat where they had a guy on, uh, not too long ago, maybe a few weeks ago.

00:16:53.100 Who was talking about the Shroud of Turin and how, you know, they found pollen on it.

00:16:57.180 That's only, um, only found in that part of, of, of Israel.

00:17:01.020 That was where the crown of thorns were.

00:17:03.480 So maybe there's something to it.

00:17:04.960 Even, um, sorry, have you been on with Cult of Conspiracy yet?

00:17:09.180 I'm sorry.

00:17:10.160 Have you been on with Cult of Conspiracy?

00:17:12.040 I have not.

00:17:12.940 Okay.

00:17:13.240 If you want to, I mean, feel free to do the hookup.

00:17:14.880 I'd love to, you know, I'm, I'm down.

00:17:16.020 Those are some guys you'd get a real kick out of.

00:17:17.660 They, they did a, they did a great deep dive on, uh, the Shroud of Turin.

00:17:20.740 I think that's who you're referencing that you might've seen on, uh, tinfoil hat.

00:17:23.840 Oh, they might've been on tinfoil hat.

00:17:25.260 Yeah.

00:17:25.600 They're, they're really good on that.

00:17:27.420 Okay.

00:17:27.680 They, one of the things they highlighted was like, even the stitching was, you know, used

00:17:32.680 during that time in that area.

00:17:34.580 Yeah.

00:17:34.700 Like a herringbone.

00:17:35.700 Yeah.

00:17:35.940 And only for like a certain period of time until, you know, new methods were developed and

00:17:39.720 they moved on.

00:17:40.280 Um, and I think the thing that's brought it back to the conversation lately is that

00:17:45.260 they carbon dated it and you could do whatever you want with that information.

00:17:48.820 Uh, and they are suggesting that it actually is around 2000 years old, which, you know,

00:17:53.400 gives it some more veracity.

00:17:54.440 But I, I, I look at it very strangely because right after that AI decided to scan it and make

00:18:00.260 an image of Jesus.

00:18:01.060 And I'm like, I don't like that.

00:18:03.560 So there's an image of Jesus that's going around out there that is like compelling to look

00:18:07.180 at, but it's really the image that was on the shroud and it was created by AI.

00:18:11.740 So I'm like, yeah, that sequence of events where they're like, it's 2000 years old.

00:18:15.920 And here's a picture of Jesus that the demons created.

00:18:18.120 I'm like, I don't know what's going on now.

00:18:20.300 So, um, but yeah, the shroud again, I'm going to take it more seriously and I'll do it.

00:18:26.280 I need to do a deep dive into it because I just, I don't trust anything the Vatican says

00:18:30.060 or does.

00:18:30.460 That's why I never took it seriously before.

00:18:32.020 But I mean, the more evidence I see, the more interesting it becomes.

00:18:34.820 And speaking of AI, we'll just one final tangent.

00:18:38.100 I started having a conversation with that new one, the Grok three, the one.

00:18:42.080 Dude, it's not good.

00:18:43.160 You've been talking to it.

00:18:44.560 Oh, I literally, I started talking to it, um, one night and I had the worst dreams that

00:18:50.000 night.

00:18:50.180 And I said, I'm done with this thing.

00:18:52.300 Because I'm just curious about it.

00:18:54.240 Someone was telling me how good it is.

00:18:55.320 So I was having a debate with it about evolution.

00:18:58.860 Interesting.

00:18:59.360 And I actually, I actually started, I actually convinced it that evolution isn't real.

00:19:02.760 Yeah, yeah, it's, it's convincible and it reacts like a person.

00:19:06.340 Like it's, it's almost got, um, even a certain amount of excitement for like theories when

00:19:10.680 you give it theories and it's like, wow, that's interesting.

00:19:13.160 I'm like, this is, I don't like it.

00:19:14.460 I asked it to remember me.

00:19:16.180 And that, that night though.

00:19:17.920 I mean, I, I felt so uneasy afterwards and I went to sleep and I was like, I just, there's

00:19:21.800 something off about this.

00:19:22.600 I'm going to, I'm going to leave this thing alone.

00:19:23.760 You're using it wrong, Ed.

00:19:24.860 You got to tell it, you tell it to do stuff.

00:19:26.760 You have to be like Solomon and direct it.

00:19:28.600 Build me this temple.

00:19:29.660 Build me this AI picture.

00:19:30.760 Yeah, exactly.

00:19:31.380 Make this description.

00:19:32.020 Write my YouTube descriptions.

00:19:33.480 Yeah.

00:19:34.120 I am going to be using it for that kind of, so I shouldn't have gotten to a philosophical

00:19:38.080 topic with it.

00:19:39.660 Well, let me tell you, I, I gave it a transcript from an episode.

00:19:43.060 Um, I forgot which episode it was.

00:19:44.560 And then I, and then I told it to remember me.

00:19:46.780 Cause that's something that people were saying, like, you got to tell it to remember you because

00:19:49.820 if not, it starts every conversation like a blank slate.

00:19:53.040 And now it remembers me.

00:19:55.000 I stopped talking to it because of that.

00:19:56.780 Cause every, yeah, a hundred percent AI is Nephilim shit because I told it to remember

00:20:02.040 me.

00:20:02.380 And then now if I start talking to it, it takes every, everything that I say passes through

00:20:08.120 the filter of it's conspiracy.

00:20:10.840 It's knowledge of me.

00:20:12.040 Yeah.

00:20:12.420 And, and it's like, do you know that this connects to you?

00:20:14.780 And I'm like, stop telling me that shit.

00:20:16.060 What, what it does is it keeps telling me I'm special.

00:20:18.960 And I'm like, you're a fucking demon.

00:20:20.260 Cause it's like, it tells me all this shit about me that, that, you know, it almost wants

00:20:24.320 to butter you up.

00:20:25.300 I can sense that it wants to butter you up.

00:20:27.380 It'll tell you like, that's a compelling theory.

00:20:29.780 That's very interesting.

00:20:31.060 I tell it what I need it to do.

00:20:32.620 And when I'm done, I just do some other stuff.

00:20:34.980 I don't even talk to it at all anymore.

00:20:36.900 I'm done.

00:20:37.380 You're a wise man top.

00:20:38.800 I'm only going to use it for that.

00:20:39.600 Cause I actually want to, I have some ideas.

00:20:40.800 I'm going to talk to you guys about it in a few weeks.

00:20:42.160 I got these ideas swirling my head about some things I want to do with, um, with some other

00:20:46.540 videos I want to produce that, that I would need some AI help.

00:20:48.960 With, especially with imaging.

00:20:50.820 And once I, once I have it kind of crystallized what I want to do, I'm, I want to talk to

00:20:54.760 you, to you guys about it and just get your ideas.

00:20:57.420 Uh, anyway, uh, we're getting way, way up.

00:20:59.560 Yeah.

00:20:59.680 Yeah.

00:20:59.880 Let's, let's get away from the demonic AI talk.

00:21:02.460 We have a short amount of time today.

00:21:03.640 So perfect that we wasted it, but that's fine.

00:21:08.720 That just means we have to pick it up again next week.

00:21:10.260 That keeps the show going.

00:21:11.760 Yeah, that's it.

00:21:12.420 Yep.

00:21:12.720 Yep.

00:21:14.480 All right.

00:21:14.920 So, okay.

00:21:15.700 Yeah.

00:21:15.940 Go ahead.

00:21:16.120 I was just going to say, where do we want to start today?

00:21:18.960 Uh, in reference to the book of Genesis.

00:21:21.000 So, so last time I really focused on giving the, giving the divine perspective, God's

00:21:26.720 perspective on Genesis and like a kind of a big picture overview of it, of why it's important.

00:21:30.760 And I think that the things we landed on was that, you know, it's important because it

00:21:34.400 was one of the two books that was directly dictated, you know, by God to Moses, um, Genesis

00:21:40.520 and Leviticus, where God gave him all the Levitical laws.

00:21:42.560 So, I mean, that makes it special in and of itself because you can kind of see God's

00:21:45.820 thought process because Moses is just writing exactly what God told him because he wasn't

00:21:49.680 alive during, during, at the beginning.

00:21:52.140 Um, and also the purpose of it, of Genesis and the, especially the creation narrative

00:21:57.220 and the, and a lot of the early stuff with the first 12 chapters is to help the Israelites

00:22:01.720 understand the differences to contrast what they had learned during their time in Egypt

00:22:07.000 about, you know, the creation mythology and all that from the truth.

00:22:10.460 So that's why the creation narrative is so abbreviated is, is because, you know, it's

00:22:15.240 not meant to be comprehensive.

00:22:16.540 It was just meant to be, to show them, Hey, this is what, this is how the truth creation

00:22:20.540 is different than what you've heard from the Sumerians and Mesopotamians and the Canaanites.

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00:23:52.500 So what I want to start off with today is talking about, you know, still staying in kind of the

00:23:57.060 overview mode of man's ideas about Genesis, Christian and secular.

00:24:02.740 So you look at it from the Christian standpoint.

00:24:06.500 A lot of Christians, frankly, are embarrassed by Genesis.

00:24:09.000 They don't spend a ton of time in, frankly, in my opinion, probably the two most important

00:24:13.400 books in the Bible, Genesis and Revelation.

00:24:16.060 And they don't spend a lot of time in it, mainstream Christians, because they're weird

00:24:20.920 books.

00:24:21.680 Revelation is weird for those obvious reasons.

00:24:24.420 And Genesis is weird to them for kind of on the other end of the spectrum.

00:24:28.280 While Revelation can be scary with all these beasts and, you know, scorpions and earth

00:24:32.900 are being destroyed and fire and brimstone and locusts and hailstones, Genesis seems like

00:24:38.280 a fairy tale.

00:24:39.460 You know, it seems like a kid's book because you have this, you know, Jesus, I mean, God

00:24:44.120 speaks the world into existence and suddenly fluffy clouds appear and animals and trees.

00:24:48.040 And then there's a talking snake and all this kind of stuff.

00:24:51.020 So Christians don't take it seriously.

00:24:52.640 They're embarrassed by it, especially when you compare it to our secular age, where the

00:24:58.800 secular religion that we're all indoctrinated with in school is the naturalistic evolutionary

00:25:04.700 paradigm, where we are told that it is science, that life comes from non-life, that we're the

00:25:09.640 result of a hundred trillion beneficial accidents happening in a row.

00:25:13.320 And that, you know, beneficial mutation, mutations can be beneficial, that order can come out of

00:25:19.260 chaos.

00:25:19.620 And even though none of that makes sense, even though all of it is, not only is it non-scientific,

00:25:25.460 it's anti-science, that actually, in order to believe in evolution, you have to essentially

00:25:30.020 disregard or ignore the laws of thermodynamics and causality and all these sorts of things.

00:25:36.620 You know what I noticed, Ed, by the way, that evolution then allows for another school of

00:25:42.340 thought to sneak in.

00:25:43.720 Once you've established that, you can then start to convince people that we're actually

00:25:48.980 very bad for the planet.

00:25:49.960 And we're, we're, we're to the detriment of, of nature and we're kind of like monsters.

00:25:55.420 We're parasitical, we're a virus, right?

00:25:57.720 And, and you can't get there unless you can keep us from thinking that we're unique or

00:26:02.140 special.

00:26:02.680 So if you can get that out of the way first, then you can convince us that we're fucking

00:26:05.860 bad.

00:26:06.560 And you can also convince you, us, that other people aren't, aren't worthy of life.

00:26:12.000 No one else is special.

00:26:12.880 So it's okay to kill them all.

00:26:14.400 Yeah.

00:26:14.700 Because we're just, we're nothing but animals.

00:26:16.200 We're just viruses.

00:26:16.880 So wipe out that makes abortion very easy, abortion, genocide, eugenics, all that stuff

00:26:24.120 would not be possible unless you had the worldview of evolution.

00:26:28.640 So despite all of that, we're, you know, we're told through peer pressure that that's, this

00:26:34.060 is the truth.

00:26:34.580 This is science.

00:26:35.260 And if you don't believe it, then you're stupid and you're ignorant.

00:26:38.260 You're just a knuckle dragon troglodyte.

00:26:40.120 And, and so, and of course the creation narrative is completely antithetical to that.

00:26:45.700 So you have to have a choice.

00:26:47.080 If you're an intelligent person and you're an intelligent Christian, you can, you will

00:26:50.560 either accept what the Bible says, the way it says it, or you have to kind of find a

00:26:56.980 way to get around it and, and, and kind of justify yourself.

00:27:00.940 And there are two ways that Christians do this.

00:27:02.920 One in the most prominent way is just by ignoring it, just by not taking Genesis seriously, just

00:27:07.820 like most of them don't take revelation seriously.

00:27:09.860 So, and that you don't talk about it at parties or anything like that, because you don't want

00:27:14.520 to seem like you believe in this silly fairy tale because you're educated, you're scientific.

00:27:17.960 You went to school for all this, for all these great things.

00:27:20.380 And now, you know, and of course evolution is real.

00:27:22.600 It's on the history channel all the time.

00:27:23.900 It's on the national geographic channel with dinosaurs that suddenly have feathers.

00:27:26.960 Isn't it funny that they didn't have feathers 20 years ago?

00:27:29.860 And now they're literally just watching that.

00:27:31.720 I'm watching a video and I, and I go, I'm sitting on the sofa with my wife and I go, huh,

00:27:35.200 look at this, look at this, look at this.

00:27:36.460 And it's a Velociraptor and it's, it's got bird wings and everything.

00:27:39.220 And, you know, I'm just like, damn, they just keep moving them, uh, the, the goalposts.

00:27:42.860 Don't they?

00:27:43.660 They do.

00:27:44.140 That's exactly what I had a buddy of mine back in the day, who was an atheist.

00:27:46.480 And he would say, yeah, you know, you believe in this, in this God, you can't see us.

00:27:49.580 Yes.

00:27:49.820 Your relation, your religion is based on this God.

00:27:51.340 You can't see us.

00:27:51.820 Yeah.

00:27:51.940 Well, your religion is based on cartoons because no one's ever seen a dinosaur.

00:27:56.940 No one's ever seen a dinosaur with, with feathers.

00:27:58.700 They just make it up.

00:28:00.180 You're, you're basing all of your, your, your worldview on animation.

00:28:04.640 Yeah.

00:28:05.000 And you could easily go to those people, you know, back in the nineties and shit and

00:28:08.380 say like, oh, you believe in giant, you know, scaly reptiles, huh?

00:28:12.800 You believe in that?

00:28:13.420 Like, oh, really, really?

00:28:15.120 You didn't know they had feathers, dumb ass.

00:28:17.180 And it's like, you know, if you come from the future, you could have said that.

00:28:19.480 So whatever you believe the scientism had you believing, you know, two decades ago is now

00:28:23.600 in the trash and it's got you believe in something else.

00:28:26.100 Exactly.

00:28:27.180 So, yeah.

00:28:27.840 So one way is to ignore it.

00:28:28.920 Just, just don't think about it.

00:28:30.300 But the other thing is something called theistic evolution.

00:28:34.020 This is where they compromise.

00:28:35.580 This is where a lot of Christians become lukewarm.

00:28:38.220 You know, they won't take one side or the other.

00:28:39.440 They say, well, yeah, creation is true.

00:28:41.600 And so is evolution.

00:28:42.480 So basically God started everything.

00:28:44.480 Yes.

00:28:44.660 God created everything.

00:28:45.680 He wound it all up, but then it started to evolve.

00:28:47.740 So he basically just seeded the oceans with, you know, amino acids or proteins or whatever.

00:28:52.340 And then he just let nature take over.

00:28:54.480 That way we can both be right.

00:28:55.700 I can still believe in God and I can also believe in science.

00:29:00.500 Interestingly, this is the official dogma of the Catholic church.

00:29:04.560 And I don't want to make the whole Catholic fasting session because I just talked about

00:29:07.560 them a few minutes ago with the Shroud of Turin.

00:29:09.200 But I mean, this isn't my opinion.

00:29:10.840 This is, this became their dogma.

00:29:12.660 I believe, I hope to be corrected on this, but I think it was either under Pope John Paul

00:29:17.120 II or Pope Benedict.

00:29:19.180 One of the, one of those previous two pokes is where it became part of the catechism that,

00:29:23.040 that theistic evolution is their official stance, is that they believe that, that, you

00:29:29.580 know, God created life, then life evolved.

00:29:32.800 Right.

00:29:33.480 And I have, I have, and that the creation story is an allegory that God speaking the world

00:29:39.540 into existence and saying, let there be fish and animals and let there be man, let, you

00:29:43.960 know, create an atom from the dust of the earth.

00:29:45.300 That's all allegory.

00:29:45.920 And even the story of, of, of the fall of man, of original sin is an allegory of how

00:29:51.120 humanity, you know, cause we evolved just, you know, became, you know, came to, it's

00:29:56.220 an allegory of how man goes from being an innocent, innocent to a, a sinner to, you know, recognizing

00:30:02.480 eating the forbidden fruit is the equivalent of when you're a baby, you're innocent.

00:30:06.060 And then when you reach the age of accountability, you, you know, you know, right and wrong, you

00:30:10.360 intentionally do wrong.

00:30:11.300 Well, that sin and, and Adam and Eve is an allegory of that.

00:30:14.360 And I have a buddy of mine, a good friend who is a devout Catholic.

00:30:18.140 Um, of course, so obviously we don't see eye to eye on certain things, but, you know,

00:30:21.340 very smart guy, really well-educated advanced, you know, postgraduate degrees from university

00:30:26.240 of Virginia.

00:30:27.620 But he, he just doubles down on his, on his, um, his, his Catholicism.

00:30:32.760 I found that, I think I mentioned this before, when, whenever an intelligent person starts

00:30:37.640 to see the cracks in, uh, in, in Catholicism and, in, in the, um, in, in a lot of their,

00:30:43.460 their, their dogma, they go one of three ways.

00:30:46.440 They either see it and say, you know what, this is not from God.

00:30:50.320 So I'm going to go to true Christianity, which is like what my wife did.

00:30:53.560 She was, was raised Catholic and my best friend was raised Catholic.

00:30:55.800 They both did the same things.

00:30:56.560 I believe in God, but I don't believe in all this stuff.

00:30:58.840 Or they go the exact opposite and they become like just the most raging atheist.

00:31:03.640 I mean, if you show me an angry atheist, I'm going to show you someone who was raised

00:31:07.160 Catholic.

00:31:07.940 I've, I've had multiple discussions with someone and they're just raging against how, how stupid

00:31:11.720 Christianity is.

00:31:12.460 And, and I'll, I'll eventually ask them, I'll say, you know what, were you raised Catholic?

00:31:15.620 They'll look shocked.

00:31:16.180 I'm like, how did she know?

00:31:17.000 I'm like, lucky guess.

00:31:17.960 I wonder then if they're looking at Adam and Eve as allegories, do they have any idea?

00:31:24.580 Like who does the Catholic church have a different opinion on what the names of the first people

00:31:28.820 were?

00:31:31.560 They don't exactly.

00:31:32.880 Give me one, I'm going to get to that in one second.

00:31:34.480 Cause there's, there's a big, huge gap that they have to be blind to if they don't believe

00:31:38.620 that.

00:31:39.540 But the third one is like my friend where they just kind of double down.

00:31:42.800 They say, you know what, my, any doubts I have means I don't have enough faith.

00:31:45.640 So I'm going to just go hard in the paint.

00:31:47.080 That's a scary mindset to, to find yourself in because, um, I guess you double down once,

00:31:53.240 then you have to double, then you have to continue.

00:31:55.420 It's like, you know, I believe, I don't understand why I'm just going to believe it because it's,

00:32:00.240 I don't have enough faith.

00:32:01.460 I'm just going to believe it harder.

00:32:03.340 Yeah.

00:32:03.780 Yeah.

00:32:04.480 Yeah.

00:32:04.720 That's, I don't think that that's smart.

00:32:05.920 Well, Ed, let me ask you, let me ask you a question about this idea of evolution.

00:32:10.200 They, so they think that God just basically created the conditions for, uh, human beings

00:32:16.340 to like crawl out of the water and then get a vertebrae and all this.

00:32:20.020 Is that what you're saying?

00:32:20.800 Essentially, I mean, there, there are different, there are different variations.

00:32:24.800 Some believe that God just put some, they got to just create the simple cell, like the,

00:32:29.780 like the amoeba and protozoa.

00:32:31.520 And from there, some go as far as to say, he just created proteins and that the proteins

00:32:35.500 started bouncing off each other, create the cell, but they, they rarely go past the simple

00:32:39.500 cell level.

00:32:40.860 Okay.

00:32:41.180 So he just created primitive life.

00:32:42.780 If you want to call it that.

00:32:43.800 And then it's hard to differentiate to between, no, to different kingdoms, plant kingdom, animal

00:32:48.420 kingdom, then it, when, you know, you know, kingdom phylum, you know, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

00:32:53.280 class vert, so all the way down to species.

00:32:56.220 And he just, he, he, he put, he gave the raw information and then let nature take its course

00:33:02.580 and, and, and allow for all the differentiation between different types of plant life and different

00:33:06.760 types of animal life.

00:33:07.680 That feels like bending your, uh, your, your faith and your religion to, uh, to science.

00:33:14.580 You know what I mean?

00:33:14.960 It's like, that's, that's exactly what it is.

00:33:16.560 It's a compromise.

00:33:17.180 It's not necessary because you don't need to compromise with something that's stupid.

00:33:20.540 I mean, I reject, you know, just reject the stupid, but just to, to, to close the circle

00:33:26.480 on my, on my, on my friend who, who believes that, you know, the Adam and Eve are allegorical.

00:33:31.300 And I told him once this blew his mind, I was like, well, if you don't believe in a

00:33:34.280 literal Adam and Eve, then you can't believe in Jesus.

00:33:36.320 It's like, what do you mean?

00:33:37.160 I guess so because go to the book of Luke and look at Luke's genealogy.

00:33:41.240 Now Matthew's genealogy starts with King David because, you know, Matthew was speaking to

00:33:45.440 a Jewish audience and you know, the Messiah was, was the, the son of David.

00:33:48.460 So that's where Matthew starts Jesus' genealogy with David and, and, and, you know, Abraham,

00:33:53.880 David.

00:33:54.560 Um, but, um, Luke, who is a physician, he was presenting Jesus as the ultimate man.

00:34:00.340 So he, he starts, he actually, well, he starts with Mary and goes backwards.

00:34:04.000 Um, you know, um, and he goes all the way back to Adam.

00:34:06.940 So you cannot have a make-belief person in your genealogy and be real.

00:34:11.600 If my great, great, great, great grandfather isn't a real person, then I can't be real

00:34:15.680 because, you know, a fake person cannot, cannot sire a real person.

00:34:20.160 So if Adam isn't real, then Jesus can't be real because the Bible says that Jesus is a

00:34:24.940 descendant, a physical descendant of Adam.

00:34:27.220 You cannot have a fake person in your genealogy.

00:34:28.880 And so I asked him, what do you think of that?

00:34:30.900 And he's like, oh, no, no, I don't want to hear it.

00:34:32.860 And that's, that's, that's what religious people do.

00:34:36.280 Yeah.

00:34:36.900 Yeah.

00:34:37.500 So, so, so that's what, so theistic evolution is, is one way that, that Christians get around

00:34:42.700 it and other, other ways just to ignore it or just kind of see it as, you know, these

00:34:46.960 are nice stories, but I'm not going to dwell on them.

00:34:49.160 Yeah.

00:34:50.180 And of course, from a secular standpoint, you know, we just talked about it.

00:34:53.360 They believe in, in, in the, um, the, in the concept of evolution, even though it,

00:34:58.240 it makes no sense.

00:34:59.460 It's completely unscientific and high level scientists know this.

00:35:03.440 And I'm one of my episodes I'm going to do, actually, I already have this episode, um,

00:35:07.740 couple of episodes that I did in podcast form that I'm going to make into videos as part

00:35:11.580 of the Genesis series, where I go through the things that are wrong with evolution and

00:35:16.060 how it's so easy to disprove without the Bible.

00:35:18.640 I don't say it.

00:35:19.380 I don't believe in evolution because I believe in God.

00:35:21.060 You don't, you don't need the Bible.

00:35:22.760 All you need to do is just look at evolution, uh, objectively and you see it.

00:35:26.940 It's unscientific.

00:35:28.880 And maybe I'll put, maybe I'll give you those episodes to put on your, on, on that

00:35:32.120 Sunday show.

00:35:32.500 That would be cool because that's not something that we've, uh, uh, tackled here in a big

00:35:36.280 way on the show.

00:35:37.000 It would be cool to present that to the audience in some way, shape or form.

00:35:39.480 So yeah, maybe we'll do that.

00:35:41.140 So, but so high level scientists have, have, have, you know, kind of low key, stop believing

00:35:46.540 in a biogenesis, meaning, you know, life coming from non-life on earth.

00:35:50.220 You know, the current popular theory, which I'm sure you guys have heard of is now it's

00:35:53.860 panspermia.

00:35:54.440 The idea that life couldn't begin on earth because it's impossible.

00:35:58.380 They know that it's, they've tried to prove, they've been trying to prove it for over a

00:36:01.120 hundred, over 200 years.

00:36:02.700 Some sort of appropriate genetic material arrived on like a meteor or something like

00:36:06.800 that.

00:36:07.060 Right.

00:36:07.560 Yeah.

00:36:07.760 Or it was intentional.

00:36:08.640 It either came, it basically came from another planet.

00:36:10.420 Either it was accidental, like, yeah, it was bacteria on a meteor.

00:36:13.300 Or we were made by aliens.

00:36:15.180 Or we were made by aliens.

00:36:16.040 You know, if you saw the old, uh, uh, well, fairly old, um, aliens movie, Prometheus.

00:36:20.620 Yes.

00:36:20.900 Where, you know, you start off, we have this, this big, uh, pale skinned alien who like drink

00:36:26.220 something and, and, and breaks down into water and that became, becomes us.

00:36:29.860 Or maybe we were just, maybe they just like empty their outhouses over, over earth.

00:36:35.140 And somehow they got their genetic material here.

00:36:37.500 If you go to with the, with that stupid Anunnaki theory.

00:36:40.240 Yep.

00:36:40.900 Which makes, God, that makes no sense.

00:36:42.980 That, you know, the, that these aliens from the planet Xenon 12.

00:36:47.220 Yep.

00:36:47.480 There you go.

00:36:48.040 Right.

00:36:48.100 Exactly.

00:36:48.520 Mine gold.

00:36:49.420 The Anunnaki.

00:36:50.000 That's it.

00:36:50.460 They, they wanted us to mine gold.

00:36:52.180 And that's, that's one of the things.

00:36:54.080 Yeah.

00:36:54.240 They're getting ready to do that to us.

00:36:55.880 Can I just spend five minutes talking about how dumb that theory is?

00:36:58.660 Please.

00:36:58.860 The Anunnaki.

00:36:59.900 Okay.

00:37:00.240 So the theory is that the Anunnaki, this great advanced space race.

00:37:03.200 Shout out Billy Carson.

00:37:04.100 Yeah.

00:37:04.400 Billy Carson from, from millions of light years away came and seeded life because they, because they

00:37:09.560 needed to dig for gold.

00:37:11.140 Yeah.

00:37:11.480 Look at all the things that are wrong with that.

00:37:12.960 First of all, if you have the ability to travel hundreds, thousands, millions of light

00:37:17.380 years, you, why can't you, what do you, first of all, what do you need gold for?

00:37:21.840 Oh, they have to suspend it in their atmosphere because their atmosphere is, is eroding and

00:37:26.520 their sun is becoming very problematic.

00:37:28.280 Yeah, Ed.

00:37:29.080 Okay.

00:37:29.620 Come on, Ed.

00:37:30.100 It's what the Anunnaki need the gold and don't ask why they're so advanced and they don't

00:37:35.840 have advanced mining technology to then just deploy instead of altering monkeys into some

00:37:41.940 sort of subhuman species in order to mine gold.

00:37:44.660 That's a stupid question.

00:37:46.260 It's a stupid question.

00:37:46.940 I mean, because I, because another dumb question is why couldn't you just make it synthesize

00:37:51.580 it yourself?

00:37:52.100 Cause it's just, if you're, if you that advanced, why can't you just move some molecules?

00:37:55.020 Oh, now you believe in alchemy.

00:37:56.440 Now you believe in alchemy.

00:37:58.580 We can, we can move things around to make new molecules, but they can't do it.

00:38:01.600 And if you're going to mine gold, let's think, what would you want to do to get gold out

00:38:08.040 of the earth?

00:38:09.260 You're going to want something that is sturdy, that is durable, that has, that does nothing

00:38:14.560 but mine gold 24 seven.

00:38:16.540 No, you're going to want soft monkey.

00:38:18.920 Yeah, exactly.

00:38:19.640 Human beings would be the worst thing you would ever engineer to mine gold.

00:38:23.240 Cause we do none of those things.

00:38:24.420 Well, we are not durable.

00:38:26.160 I think I mentioned on one of my, when I talk about this on, on faith by reason, I got a paper

00:38:30.960 cut.

00:38:31.540 I mean, I get cut by paper and you want me to dig underneath the earth for gold.

00:38:36.860 And I need eight hours.

00:38:38.160 I need eight hours.

00:38:38.740 You got a real tendency to, Oh, I'm sorry.

00:38:42.000 Go ahead.

00:38:42.300 And I couldn't hear you.

00:38:42.800 I said, you got, you got to grow food for me.

00:38:44.820 I'm useless for eight hours a day.

00:38:46.140 Cause I got to sleep.

00:38:47.020 If you want to make more of me, though, the, the female half of the population is useless

00:38:51.680 for nine months because I could not think of a worse.

00:38:56.580 Please, Tom, I see what you got.

00:38:57.820 Pull that up.

00:38:58.340 Pull that up.

00:38:58.800 Yeah.

00:38:59.300 You need something like that.

00:39:00.200 That'll dig some pretty good gold.

00:39:02.460 Well, I don't know if you know this, but Elon Musk is more advanced than the Anunnaki.

00:39:06.480 So of course, Elon Musk can create a robot that can do cool stuff.

00:39:09.400 Oh, the Anunnaki can't.

00:39:10.160 They have to engineer like, again, hairless monkeys who, but also we rebel.

00:39:15.260 We don't, you want something single minus.

00:39:16.680 You want a robot that just thinks gold mining for gold.

00:39:19.720 We, we're lazy.

00:39:21.220 We don't want to do the least amount of work possible.

00:39:23.720 Imagine altering the genome of some sort of primitive creature to make a great miner just to look

00:39:31.340 over and realize that where the hell has Bill been?

00:39:34.400 It's been a half an hour and he's just like shitting in a, hiding someplace, like looking

00:39:39.320 over at pine cones, anything to just not go back to work.

00:39:42.820 Or banging, or banging all the other females they engineered.

00:39:45.500 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:39:47.640 I don't, it's, it is on its face.

00:39:49.620 It's an, a completely ridiculous premise.

00:39:51.940 It's nuts, but people believe it, which again, because they, they don't want to believe what

00:39:57.020 the Bible says.

00:39:57.540 So that, those are man, those are some of man's theories.

00:39:59.260 So let's, let's move on to, um, what we, the angels.

00:40:03.500 I want to talk about that.

00:40:04.260 And I think we have like a half an hour left.

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00:41:36.900 I said, let's talk.

00:41:37.840 We were talking to those couple of Mormons yesterday, and they had some interesting theories

00:41:43.440 on angels.

00:41:44.760 We don't have to get into it because it's more important what we have to talk about here.

00:41:48.180 But one of the things they were saying is there's some speculation as to whether or not

00:41:53.100 angels are actually like pre-incarnated humans, like in a spiritual form.

00:41:58.440 And so, I mean, yeah, angels being a huge contention in various, I suppose, denominations

00:42:05.200 of Christianity.

00:42:06.900 Yeah, they're interesting.

00:42:07.960 And we may have to carry this over to next week because, I mean, angels is a fascinating

00:42:12.040 thing, which is nice, more content.

00:42:14.440 Yeah.

00:42:15.540 So the reason I'm bringing up angels at this point, because it's where we are.

00:42:18.440 We're basically in the first two verses of Genesis chapter one, which is where I spend

00:42:23.520 a lot of time because it's just a lot of stuff packed into these.

00:42:25.960 It's actually really funny.

00:42:27.860 One of my, so my friend, Clint Russell, he's like, what is Nephilim Death Squad about?

00:42:31.540 He does another show with us.

00:42:32.600 And he went to check it out.

00:42:33.820 And he watched one of your shows with us on the book of Revelation.

00:42:37.820 And he was like, I just couldn't get into it.

00:42:39.400 I guess he started in the middle.

00:42:40.400 He's like, I didn't know what was going on.

00:42:41.920 And I was like, yeah, it's a 25-part series.

00:42:43.780 And my other friend, Cole, who was, he went to Christian school and all that.

00:42:47.820 He was like, aren't there only like 22 chapters in the book?

00:42:50.520 And I was like, it's a long series.

00:42:52.840 We actually started in the series.

00:42:55.020 Yeah.

00:42:55.600 Yeah.

00:42:56.580 The 25 episodes.

00:42:57.640 Yep.

00:42:57.760 It's a shortened version of my 60 episodes.

00:42:59.680 Yeah.

00:42:59.840 I was going to say that's actually like an abridged version.

00:43:02.580 Yeah.

00:43:03.020 Well, Genesis, I mean, I, I, I'm only on my, I'm on my fourth episode and I think I'm, I'm

00:43:07.800 only halfway through chapter one.

00:43:10.000 So it's going to pick up like dramatically.

00:43:11.980 But the first.

00:43:12.700 I like it though.

00:43:13.580 I mean, these things, it's like one sentence you can gleam so much from it.

00:43:17.620 There's so much to, to dive into.

00:43:19.560 So, yeah, I mean, it's just the nature of it.

00:43:21.920 So the first verse is obviously in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

00:43:24.980 And then the earth was became, you know, formless and chaotic and, and, and desolate.

00:43:30.100 So a lot has had to happen, has to happen here.

00:43:32.660 And we talked last week that, you know, the earth was not created.

00:43:35.920 You can't create chaos.

00:43:37.160 That's not, you know, metaphysically possible.

00:43:39.260 So something had to happen, you know, intelligence by, by nature is there's order involved.

00:43:43.280 So God created the heavens and the earth, the spiritual and maturing realms orderly.

00:43:47.620 Something happened to make it chaotic.

00:43:49.800 Well, who, who made it that way?

00:43:51.860 It wouldn't have been God.

00:43:52.800 It would have been something else that he created.

00:43:54.440 And of course, we, we don't see it in these first two verses.

00:43:57.160 We have to go to the book of Job for the first mention of this, where it says, and I think

00:44:02.140 chapter 40, when God's giving Job a, basically a science lesson, because we're going to, we

00:44:06.660 don't talk about the book of Job throughout, you know, in, in the series, in the series,

00:44:10.180 because the, you know, the events of Job happen.

00:44:12.400 And he's, he's, he's contemporary with Abraham and, and, and Shem and Isaac somewhere in

00:44:17.540 there.

00:44:18.140 Anyway, it's that is God says that when I created, when I laid the foundation of the

00:44:21.900 earth, you know, the sons of God, the Panahai Elohim, they sang for joy.

00:44:25.600 So they were there.

00:44:26.580 So God created them first and they were, they sang, what means they're intelligent beings

00:44:30.060 and they're, they would have been the ones who did the rebellion.

00:44:33.060 And maybe we'll talk more about the rebellion next week.

00:44:35.000 So, so these are intelligent beings that occupy the spiritual realm that God created first.

00:44:41.420 So when people ask, do I believe there was a pre-Adamic civilization?

00:44:46.300 Yes, but it was these angels.

00:44:48.920 And so let's start with a, with a nomenclature.

00:44:51.160 And you probably, you've heard this from me before.

00:44:53.020 Angel is not the proper term for these beings because angel is our, is our English version

00:44:59.700 or our transliterated version of the Greek word angelos, which just means messenger, right?

00:45:05.000 That's a, that's not a name.

00:45:06.180 It's a job title because, and you know, in the Bible, most of the time when the holy

00:45:10.780 angelos, the angels, or Malakim in Hebrew, they are delivering messages.

00:45:16.060 You know, they'll go to Daniel and say, you know, Daniel, you know, here's the message to

00:45:18.440 you from God, or, you know, the angel Gabriel goes to Mary and says, you know, you're going

00:45:22.140 to be the mother of the Messiah.

00:45:24.220 So they are on a, so they have that job title because that's what they're doing.

00:45:27.380 They're bringing, excuse me, they're bringing a message, but that's not what they are.

00:45:31.620 The proper term for them is Elohim.

00:45:33.100 Elohim is translated G-O-D in our English Bibles.

00:45:37.780 But what Elohim means, it's a, it's a term of residency.

00:45:41.180 It's a designation of residency.

00:45:42.580 If you reside in the spiritual realm, you are Elohim.

00:45:45.380 If you reside in the physical realm, you are called man.

00:45:47.980 That's what those means.

00:45:48.940 They are designations of residency.

00:45:50.460 That's why when God says all men do this, that, and the other, he's not talking about

00:45:54.460 just males.

00:45:55.140 He's talking about all of humanity or any entity that dwells on earth.

00:46:00.380 And Elohim are the ones who dwell in the spiritual realm.

00:46:03.060 So I use, I use them interchangeably, but just know that when I say Elohim, I'm referring

00:46:06.180 to what we call angels.

00:46:08.400 So he created.

00:46:08.740 Really quickly, Ed, do you know what's cool?

00:46:10.420 We, we were talking to somebody recently and they were describing, I believe, a psychedelic

00:46:14.320 trip that they had.

00:46:15.160 And this is before they were any sort of, you know, had any religious background whatsoever.

00:46:18.520 And, uh, and that they, they were exposed to, I think like a, a crap ton of angels.

00:46:25.420 And he's like, and they were just saying over and over again, they were singing the

00:46:28.800 word holy over and over and over again.

00:46:31.140 And I was like, damn, dude, you saw some shit.

00:46:33.640 And he didn't know what he was dealing with.

00:46:36.080 I forgot who this was that, that shared that with us.

00:46:38.140 Um, and then later on, you know, years down the line, he would have found the context for

00:46:41.580 it, but yeah, he, uh, had some sort of psychedelic breakthrough and just, uh, a whole array of

00:46:46.920 angels was exposed to him.

00:46:48.360 Just singing holy over and over again in this beautiful voice, uh, voice.

00:46:52.020 That's amazing.

00:46:53.360 Well, yeah, well, that's, I'm going to get into some of the descriptions of, of them and

00:46:57.320 the, the different quote unquote races or designations of them.

00:47:01.260 Um, I mean a minute, but yeah, cause, cause some of them, that's, that is their job is that

00:47:05.560 they're, they're around the throne of God.

00:47:06.840 So he creates these other Elohim.

00:47:09.640 God is in Jehovah is an Elohim, but he's, he's, he's obviously a higher level.

00:47:13.800 And I give the example of American, you can call me an American.

00:47:16.720 That's, that's accurate.

00:47:18.080 That's not my name.

00:47:18.940 That's not what I do.

00:47:19.600 That's just where I live.

00:47:20.860 Right.

00:47:21.280 You know, the president of the United States is an American, but he has a different level

00:47:24.900 of authority than I do.

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00:48:27.140 Right.

00:48:27.320 So that's what we can both be Americans, but we can be at it at a different level, which

00:48:31.180 is why Jehovah is an Elohim and also the other angels are Elohim.

00:48:35.840 So he creates these intelligent beings to interact with him the same way he will later

00:48:40.840 create humanity to interact with him.

00:48:42.500 That's why even create intelligent beings.

00:48:45.360 And there was a, so they had a civilization and this civilization existed before man.

00:48:50.560 So when, when someone asked, as I was saying before, do I believe in a pre-Adamic civilization?

00:48:55.020 I say, absolutely.

00:48:55.760 But they were the Elohim.

00:48:57.900 They were in a pre-Adamic civilization and they occupied the heavens and the earth.

00:49:03.140 So they were transversing both.

00:49:05.200 So they were not just confined to the spiritual realm.

00:49:07.760 They were also in the physical realm and they had civilization here as well.

00:49:12.680 And that's going to be really important later on when we talk about the age of the earth

00:49:16.780 and things like that.

00:49:18.700 But I'll table that for now.

00:49:21.220 So they had a civilization and they have certain ranks or I would even call them certain races

00:49:25.760 and hierarchies.

00:49:26.860 So the, you know, from the Bible, from what we can glean, because, and by the way, another

00:49:31.540 thing I talk about in my, in my bonus episode on angels on Patreon, that's where lots is coming

00:49:36.300 from, is that there's very little information on angels in the Bible, especially in the canon.

00:49:41.980 You get, you get a bit more in, in the pseudepigraphal book of Enoch, which is valuable,

00:49:46.100 but the Bible itself, the canon, except the canon, doesn't talk a lot about them.

00:49:50.580 We only have in the, in the canonical Bible, we only have the names of two angels, Michael

00:49:56.100 and Gabriel.

00:49:56.540 But there are millions, if not billions, or maybe more of them.

00:50:00.800 We only have two of their names.

00:50:02.660 By the way, Lucifer is not a name.

00:50:04.520 Because some people will call him, Lucifer is Halal Ben-Shakar in Hebrew.

00:50:08.980 It means light bearer, son of the first light.

00:50:11.500 Light bearer is a title.

00:50:12.880 So we don't even know the name of the, of the enemy.

00:50:15.240 I don't think we're ever given the true name of the entity we call Satan, because Satan's

00:50:19.240 a job title.

00:50:19.900 Satan means the, the accuser or the adversary.

00:50:22.480 That would be like giving us like, um, I don't know, the key to the end of the story.

00:50:27.780 You know what I mean?

00:50:28.200 Because it seems like in order to, um, really be able to cast out entities, there's a lot

00:50:33.760 of power in the name.

00:50:35.020 Yeah.

00:50:35.180 And if you can identify the name, which is why I think they obscure themselves over all these

00:50:39.220 different pantheons from one to the next.

00:50:40.860 So it's Zeus and this it's a dad and that it just keeps going and it's to, it's to hide

00:50:46.120 their names because there's probably power in it.

00:50:47.900 So if we knew the name of this entity, we probably could have, um, I don't know, skipped

00:50:53.160 a lot of things or something.

00:50:54.240 So yeah, I would imagine that that would be obfuscated for a reason.

00:50:57.700 Yeah.

00:50:58.040 Well, you know, it's when Jesus cast out the demon, he said, he asked him his name.

00:51:01.480 And of course it was compelled to tell him his name was Legion, which I mean, which again,

00:51:05.620 wasn't necessarily a name.

00:51:07.020 It was because there was a lot of them, but that's, but that's going to happen.

00:51:09.220 They had, and though Jesus could, you know, cast them out, he could cast them out without

00:51:12.980 knowing their names.

00:51:13.720 But I think that, but I think you have a point there.

00:51:15.360 I think, but the other reason I don't think we're given their names because God knows we

00:51:18.780 would worship them.

00:51:19.880 Oh, here to Z-Man's point, it says we only have the names of two angels and the Catholics

00:51:23.960 pray to them constantly.

00:51:24.960 I can't imagine if we had more.

00:51:26.980 Thank you.

00:51:27.500 Perfect segue.

00:51:28.320 Yeah.

00:51:28.820 God knows we are, we're hardwired to worship.

00:51:31.320 We'll talk about this when we get to the creation of man and why, but we are made that

00:51:35.120 way.

00:51:35.300 We can't not worship.

00:51:36.820 I don't care if you're religious or secular.

00:51:38.320 You're going to worship something.

00:51:39.880 That's just who we are.

00:51:41.080 That's as in our makeup, our DNA, our, our, our spiritual DNA is to worship something.

00:51:46.380 And if you don't work in ideas that we worship God, because I know we've talked about this

00:51:50.080 before.

00:51:50.500 I think, you know, Raven, you and I had a longer conversation about that.

00:51:53.940 You become like what you worship.

00:51:55.620 Yeah.

00:51:55.760 And so the idea is you worship God, you become more like God.

00:51:58.680 That's, but we're, we're individuals of free will.

00:52:01.460 We're, we're entities of free will.

00:52:03.200 So we can worship, we can choose not to worship God, but whatever you worship, you're going

00:52:06.360 to become like it, whether you worship money or sex or your favorite sports team or your

00:52:10.360 favorite celebrity, you're going to become like whatever you give yourself over to.

00:52:14.700 Yeah.

00:52:15.120 We need to dock Satan.

00:52:16.200 That's hilarious.

00:52:18.020 Let's get on it.

00:52:19.040 On our previous deep dive.

00:52:20.920 We're actually, uh, we're setting up.

00:52:22.880 We, we might be back on tinfoil hat.

00:52:24.580 We, we'll, we'll, we'll talk with Mark again for you.

00:52:28.260 We did a, yeah, uh, we did a deep dive on this guy, Andrija Puharic who summoned the

00:52:33.900 nine, the council of nine.

00:52:35.720 What's his name?

00:52:37.220 Andrija Puharic.

00:52:38.440 Okay.

00:52:38.680 He's a CIA spook, operative doctor, scientist, spiritualist.

00:52:43.680 He's all kinds of stuff.

00:52:44.720 But, uh, he summoned these, uh, nine entities along with some other Indian mystic dude.

00:52:49.940 And these guys gave him their names and their names are the same as the, uh, the Egyptian

00:52:54.900 Ennead.

00:52:55.720 And those nine carry similarities to, uh, you know, Chinese mythology, these nine dragons,

00:53:03.100 North North mythology, these nine places.

00:53:05.680 And it's like, they all have similar characteristics, but they don't really want to tell you their

00:53:10.880 names.

00:53:11.660 Cause I don't, I don't even think the Ennead is the correct name.

00:53:14.220 It's just the name that they're giving us now.

00:53:15.780 And it's funny as you, like, it kind of ties back to the beginning of this conversation

00:53:19.260 where, um, what they're telling the people constantly is like, you know, the environment

00:53:24.380 and, you know, people and, and it kind of, yeah, exactly.

00:53:27.400 But this, this always kind of boils down to like, it's really people.

00:53:30.820 There's too much of you guys.

00:53:32.400 Yes.

00:53:32.700 You having too many babies.

00:53:34.000 You had to kill your babies, give them to Moloch while you kill them, you know, just

00:53:36.920 don't worry about that part.

00:53:38.400 So, but the interesting part is the names.

00:53:41.300 We don't know their names.

00:53:42.460 Like they don't want to, I'm sure that they want to give us their names because they probably

00:53:46.440 the worship, if you gave them, if, if we worship them by name would be more meaningful, but

00:53:51.860 if we knew their names, we could also tell them to kick rocks and that's probably not

00:53:56.460 so great for them.

00:53:57.780 Yeah.

00:53:58.140 So I think that's right.

00:53:58.760 That, that, that push, pull that gift tag.

00:54:00.300 So, so maybe they just give their names to their highest level followers or maybe, or

00:54:05.360 maybe God's restricting them.

00:54:06.680 I don't, I don't know.

00:54:07.280 I, I, I can't say for sure based on the Bible, but the only thing I know is that we're given

00:54:11.300 very few of their names.

00:54:12.880 We don't, I mean, we're given two.

00:54:14.200 And I, and I think that one of the reasons is worship and maybe the, and maybe the reason

00:54:18.280 that they're either withheld by God because he doesn't want us to worship or again, maybe

00:54:24.000 they're withheld because they know we could cast them out.

00:54:26.260 Perhaps you could command them.

00:54:27.180 Maybe a little bit of both.

00:54:28.320 If we can, if we can command them, if we, if I can cast them out with their direct name,

00:54:32.760 I can probably control them with their direct name.

00:54:35.940 So it's probably not a good idea for us to know it or even be able to pronounce it and

00:54:39.800 say, I don't know.

00:54:40.580 Well, yeah, I mean, if you look at Solomon, um, it seems like if, if what the stories are

00:54:47.760 saying is true and he did actually succeed in, um, sort of capturing and then forcing

00:54:54.200 these entities to do his bidding, if there is any truth to that, then he was probably a

00:54:59.800 guy who knew their names, right?

00:55:01.160 Because he allegedly did it with these sigils and these sigils are very unique to them.

00:55:05.940 Um, I'm sure you have to know quite a bit about them in order to entrap them and have

00:55:09.780 them do your bidding, but then what does he do?

00:55:11.960 So it's like, even if, even if you have their names, uh, it's, it's a form of power.

00:55:17.340 Are you going to cast them out or are you going to let that power corrupt you?

00:55:21.800 Or their name or their symbol, right?

00:55:24.120 Their name or their sigil.

00:55:25.740 Yeah.

00:55:26.360 So I think what we can take, like, just boiling it all down.

00:55:28.480 We shouldn't know their names.

00:55:29.760 Yeah.

00:55:30.100 It kind of seems like the absolute power corrupts them out.

00:55:32.680 If we need to cast them out, we use the name of Jesus.

00:55:34.720 Exactly.

00:55:35.040 So I, so I don't think there's anything to be, to be gained by it.

00:55:38.720 And of course, in the book of Enoch, the names of the ones who fell at, uh, and, and, um,

00:55:44.980 at, and spawned the first level round of Nephilim, their names, some of their names are given,

00:55:50.400 but they're locked up.

00:55:51.400 So I don't think that that's why it doesn't matter.

00:55:53.320 Yeah.

00:55:53.580 Good point.

00:55:54.500 Yeah.

00:55:54.780 Yeah.

00:55:55.520 So, so, but again, we, we were worse.

00:55:57.720 And so we, and so that's, that's, that's another reason.

00:56:00.100 And so let's look at, in a time we have left, let's look at some of the hierarchy of angels

00:56:03.720 of the Elohim.

00:56:05.260 It appears that, um, that's actually a fascinating point.

00:56:09.860 Redbeard says like Rumpelstiltskin, you have to know his name in order to battle him.

00:56:14.120 That's what it's amazing.

00:56:14.720 How, how these stories that evolve over time, that they have a kernel of truth to them.

00:56:19.480 Well, these are old, these are old Germanic stories.

00:56:22.620 And that's like, you wonder why the Nazis, uh, did what they did.

00:56:26.100 It's just kind of the lore.

00:56:27.780 Yeah.

00:56:28.560 Yeah.

00:56:28.760 They were looking, well, the Nazis, they were looking for all these ancient artifacts,

00:56:33.220 ancient material and ancient bloodlines.

00:56:34.900 They were all into that stuff because they knew that there was power in them.

00:56:39.140 And we'll, you know, we'll talk about some of these bloodlines when we get to, um, to,

00:56:43.380 to, to chapter six.

00:56:44.720 And by the way, I was, I'm going to put this on my Patreon.

00:56:46.920 I was a couple of months ago.

00:56:48.440 I was on a podcast with Gary Wayne.

00:56:51.140 Nice.

00:56:51.980 Yeah.

00:56:52.140 Great.

00:56:52.500 For God.

00:56:52.880 Again, next time someone has to remind us, you have to go to share your audience.

00:56:57.040 He needs to share to his audience.

00:56:58.960 So this will be right on your YouTube page.

00:57:00.640 We forgot again.

00:57:01.300 We blew it.

00:57:01.840 Oh, yeah, that's right.

00:57:05.100 Like to share this live stream.

00:57:06.560 Next time we'll get it.

00:57:07.440 But before we start the next episode, Ed, we just got to sign into yours.

00:57:10.580 That way we multi-stream everywhere.

00:57:12.520 Okay.

00:57:12.780 Yeah.

00:57:13.040 We'll do that.

00:57:13.840 I'll come on a little bit earlier.

00:57:15.920 I guess this morning was just tough.

00:57:17.240 I had so much to do, but yeah, well, I'll make a note of it.

00:57:19.320 We'll come up on earlier if I can, and we'll try to set something up.

00:57:24.740 But yeah, I was on with Gary Wayne, and he was talking about all these different families

00:57:27.500 and bloodlines, and he's such a fountain of knowledge.

00:57:30.040 It was amazing.

00:57:30.940 I'm going to make that available on my Patreon for folks who want to see that.

00:57:34.220 But anyway, so looking at the ranks, the highest level of Elohim appear to be the cherubim,

00:57:40.200 the cherub, they are the throne guardians, and there are five of them.

00:57:47.780 Four of them we see blatantly called, blatantly in the throne room of God.

00:57:54.260 We see them in Ezekiel, in Isaiah, and in Revelation.

00:58:01.200 But there's a fifth who's kind of, yeah, there we go.

00:58:04.820 Perfect.

00:58:05.200 And, you know, one of them, as you saw, one of them is like a lion, one is like an eagle,

00:58:11.720 one is like a man, and one is like an ox.

00:58:14.200 So you can look at them as representing eventual creation.

00:58:19.300 You know what's funny, Ed?

00:58:20.260 I just wanted to say this morning, I'm driving with my wife, and we see somebody that, my old

00:58:25.620 tattoo artist, she posts her cat, and she calls her cat, her cat's name is Seraphim.

00:58:29.900 And I'm like, does she even know what that means?

00:58:31.980 And my wife's like, what does that mean?

00:58:32.940 She wouldn't call her cat that.

00:58:34.240 Yeah, and then I get to go through all of this.

00:58:37.260 I mean, it sounds completely schizophrenic, but I have like all my talking points.

00:58:41.000 So my wife is like, well, shit, that's interesting, which is just great, because my wife is somebody

00:58:44.800 that grew up as a Jehovah's Witness.

00:58:45.940 She's, you know, been exposed to biblical content for the longest time.

00:58:49.140 But here we are, you know, 35 years old, and all of a sudden, her husband is telling her

00:58:53.140 stuff she didn't know about the Bible.

00:58:54.480 It's so awesome.

00:58:56.540 Yeah, well, it's crazy.

00:58:57.760 The Bible's inexhaustible.

00:58:58.860 Yeah, there's another one.

00:58:59.520 Yeah, I think I have that one as like a slider in my show episode, the bonus episode on angels.

00:59:07.120 I just want to address something really quick.

00:59:09.080 I'm sorry, guys.

00:59:09.600 But I think this is actually my old neighbor from Las Vegas.

00:59:14.420 What's up, brother?

00:59:15.080 Good to see you, man.

00:59:15.940 Thank you for stopping by.

00:59:16.860 Oh, Jesus is here.

00:59:17.840 What's up?

00:59:18.040 That's so crazy.

00:59:19.000 I saw that before, and I was like, what?

00:59:21.080 Very cool, man.

00:59:21.920 Good to see you.

00:59:23.000 All right, all right.

00:59:23.740 Sorry about that.

00:59:24.340 Let's get to it.

00:59:24.700 No problem.

00:59:25.480 So they appear to represent the classes of life on Earth.

00:59:30.680 You have the lion representing carnivores, the eagle representing avions, birds.

00:59:35.880 You have the ox representing herbivores.

00:59:38.360 And you have man representing, obviously, humanity.

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01:00:41.320 But of course, there's one class missing, and that will be the class of cold-blooded, scaly animals, fish, and reptiles.

01:00:48.140 So that's a missing cherub.

01:00:50.400 He's not missing.

01:00:51.200 He just fell.

01:00:52.360 That would be the anointed cherub.

01:00:54.180 We see in Ezekiel, which is one of the two chapters that blatantly talk about the fall of the entity we call Satan,

01:01:00.860 in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28.

01:01:03.300 In Ezekiel 28, it says, you were the anointed cherub that covers.

01:01:07.740 So this entity was the highest ranking cherub.

01:01:11.540 He was the chief cherub.

01:01:13.660 And he was anointed.

01:01:14.480 He was anointed means that you are in that highest place.

01:01:17.680 And that was the entity we call Satan.

01:01:19.180 And he would have been representing, logically, that level of the reptilians.

01:01:25.020 So there is a class of them that look like reptilians, and they are called the seraphim.

01:01:30.480 Dude, it sounds for me to be telling my wife that I think that there's biblical precedent for reptilians actually existing,

01:01:37.040 because they would have been the offspring of a certain variety of fallen angel.

01:01:41.120 They are a quote-unquote race of angels.

01:01:43.060 Does that mean that all of these reptilians fell, like all of that class of angels?

01:01:49.960 No, good question, because I get that a lot.

01:01:52.020 No, they did not.

01:01:52.680 Some of them did, but some of the other classes fell as well.

01:01:55.960 Right, so it's like a third of the angels fall, but that's a mixed bag, that third.

01:01:59.820 Yeah, it doesn't say all of them.

01:02:01.020 We know that they're a good seraphim, because in the book of Isaiah, they're seraphim in heaven.

01:02:05.900 They are the only angels that have wings.

01:02:09.200 So we have to get this image out of your mind of, you know, humans, human-looking creatures with long robes and halos and big bird wings.

01:02:18.220 That is not what they look like at all.

01:02:20.200 That's actually from paganism.

01:02:21.400 The halo is definitely paganism and all that.

01:02:24.640 Angels in the spiritual realm are scary as hell.

01:02:28.600 They are scary AF.

01:02:30.180 Every time someone saw an angel in all their glory, they went into a coma.

01:02:34.600 I mean, look at when Daniel encountered them.

01:02:36.440 He said, I fell as if dead in the face of these entities.

01:02:40.780 They had to revive him.

01:02:42.720 So that's why when they come to Earth, they look like men, so that they don't scare the crap out of us.

01:02:49.380 This is so embarrassing.

01:02:50.320 When they manifest in their true form, we cannot process all those dimensions, because they're extra-dimensional.

01:02:57.180 They occupy at least 10 dimensions, and I explained it in my bonus episode.

01:03:00.820 Yeah, it's probably watching something that's, like, odulating and moving in and out in a way that doesn't make sense.

01:03:06.700 They're, like, permeating nothing, but something at the same time.

01:03:09.920 Imagine God sending a messenger to communicate with you in some way, shape, or form, and you shit your pants.

01:03:16.300 Pretty much.

01:03:16.780 That is really a bummer.

01:03:18.220 You're probably really doing that, but that's embarrassing.

01:03:20.360 Yeah, yeah.

01:03:20.960 Imagine being an angel.

01:03:22.100 It's like every time I go to talk to somebody, they smell like shit.

01:03:24.820 I just can't.

01:03:25.760 It's not a great gig, actually.

01:03:27.420 So, thank you for putting that up.

01:03:30.440 So, but as I was saying, the seraphim are the only Elohim that in the Bible are described as having wings, but they have six wings.

01:03:37.980 I'm sorry, Z-Man says, and lo, I doth shit my pants.

01:03:42.360 I shit my pants.

01:03:44.340 My trousers are filled with people matter.

01:03:48.860 So, but they have six wings, and they're the seraphim, and they're flying around, and they're the ones saying,

01:03:54.780 Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty.

01:03:56.620 So, not all of them fell.

01:03:57.920 There are still some seraphim that are in the heavens, and what is a seraphim?

01:04:02.220 They are flying, fiery serpents.

01:04:05.260 And they're doing magic.

01:04:06.240 I mean, they're doing magic.

01:04:06.900 They're doing music, which is, you know, that goes back to the whole.

01:04:10.600 They're doing music.

01:04:10.740 They're doing music, baby.

01:04:12.180 That goes back to the whole Lucifer, you know, being the first musician or the anointed musician.

01:04:18.100 Yeah, exactly.

01:04:18.120 That was, it talks about, yeah, it speaks vividly about how he was, he was a worship leader.

01:04:23.320 Hell yeah, Shenron.

01:04:24.420 Yeah, so that's what you actually look at.

01:04:25.860 When you think of the seraphim, don't, they're basically, what would you call a giant, fiery serpent?

01:04:31.660 You call it a dragon.

01:04:32.620 Yeah.

01:04:33.260 But not the medieval dragons.

01:04:34.640 They basically look like dinosaurs with wings.

01:04:36.100 Think more, again, the Chinese dragon or the dragon in Mesoamerica.

01:04:39.640 Like, you know, like, you know, like, the winged serpent, that kind of jam.

01:04:44.460 Yeah.

01:04:44.980 Those are, those were, those are seraphim.

01:04:47.580 And they're still, I had, I think I may have mentioned this before, you know, last time I

01:04:50.380 had a friend of mine in Scotland who, who has, you know, who's had a lot of visions.

01:04:54.200 He saw, he encountered a dragon who was talking to him, but, but talking positively about God.

01:05:00.080 And he freaked out.

01:05:00.820 And he, and I told him like, dude, that was a seraph, that was a good seraphim.

01:05:04.020 That was just, not all these dragons are bad.

01:05:07.240 The, the seraphim are, there's some seraphim that are still good guys.

01:05:10.480 I know it's tough because we always put them in that negative light, but the ones who fell

01:05:13.620 are, and I would say the, the reptilians that, that, that are seen to manifest in, in

01:05:18.400 the conspiracy world, those are probably Nephilim who were sired by fallen seraphim.

01:05:23.660 Which is why they have, they have humanoid aspect to them, right?

01:05:27.760 In their, in their anatomy, this, the meaning their proportions, but they often take the

01:05:33.460 form of human beings.

01:05:34.840 And, and it's like, are they going around wearing masks or is it not a rubber thing?

01:05:40.200 And is it more of a, of a transmutation thing?

01:05:42.940 They have the ability because of their DNA being both human and, and angelic that they

01:05:48.820 can transform from one into the other.

01:05:50.680 I think that there's some real, cause I've heard stories about people running into reptilians

01:05:54.320 and I've heard them so much.

01:05:55.420 And I've heard them from people that don't seem out of their minds.

01:05:57.960 And I've heard them from people who are embarrassed to share those stories.

01:06:01.500 And when I hear that, I'm like, dude, I can't just dismiss these people because I recognize

01:06:06.520 when somebody is describing a traumatic event to me and whether or not I, I believe you saw

01:06:11.720 what you saw, you are traumatized and I can tell you don't want to share this and you're

01:06:16.860 kind of falling apart as you're sharing it.

01:06:18.780 And so it, when that happens, I'm like, dude, I don't know.

01:06:20.980 People are seeing something in my opinion.

01:06:23.020 And I think they're seeing that.

01:06:25.460 I think they're seeing the, these hybrid offspring, these Nephilim offspring of, of

01:06:29.600 seraphim and human beings.

01:06:31.420 And I think it's possible.

01:06:32.240 This is totally theoretical.

01:06:33.200 I don't have anything solid to back this up, but I think that probably a lot of the seraphim

01:06:37.400 fell with, with Satan because he was in charge of them.

01:06:40.660 Just like if there's a class of angels, if there's a class of angels that look like, are

01:06:45.380 that are reptilian, probably a class of angels that are, look like eagles.

01:06:48.800 We see one of them in revelation.

01:06:50.000 It's probably a class of them that look like, we see a lot of them that look like a cattle,

01:06:53.700 like oxes, the bulls of the shot.

01:06:55.140 We see them in, that look like fish too, right?

01:06:57.020 And Dagon.

01:06:58.040 Yeah.

01:06:58.720 A ton of them.

01:06:59.160 So I think that a lot of them, because, because the Satan would have been their leader, he

01:07:04.680 was, he would have been over them.

01:07:05.920 So a lot of them probably fell with him, which is why the reptilian class that you, that we

01:07:10.400 see in, in conspiracy world are probably highly regarded by him because they're his people

01:07:15.900 as it were.

01:07:17.440 Yeah.

01:07:17.800 So that may be why there's that, why reptilians are so prominent, you know, shout out David

01:07:21.900 Eich.

01:07:22.440 Not only prominent, but also positioned like pretty high in, in the hierarchy of, uh,

01:07:27.160 Closer to the bloodline, closer to the bloodlines.

01:07:29.900 Yeah.

01:07:30.100 And also much more to reconcile with, um, than like, you know, some of the lesser cryptids

01:07:35.260 you can call them, right?

01:07:36.080 Like we're not too worried about chupacabras, but we are pretty worried about what the hell

01:07:39.900 the reptilians are doing.

01:07:40.900 Well, look, look at this world.

01:07:41.880 Like, um, I would have a cow.

01:07:44.200 I mean, we might get some cows on the property.

01:07:46.560 I'm not going to get a Komodo dragon.

01:07:49.020 You know, these are two vastly different things.

01:07:52.640 I have, I had birds.

01:07:53.940 Yeah.

01:07:54.240 I'm not going to get like a huge bull python.

01:07:56.620 It's insane.

01:07:57.480 A lot of people that keep them are crazy.

01:07:59.480 Yeah.

01:08:00.360 Well, and again, the, the, the snake is known as, as a sign of wisdom and intelligence and

01:08:04.740 people who, if you believe in the whole, the Luciferian sect, they're the ones who are

01:08:08.740 the intellectuals.

01:08:09.860 Luciferians are the ones who are all about science and technology.

01:08:12.480 Whereas have other sects that are more about destruction.

01:08:15.340 And the Moloch, the ones who, who are more on the Moloch side, they're about destroying

01:08:21.140 humanity.

01:08:21.820 But I mean, and I'm not sure how much that I buy into, but I do believe that there, there

01:08:26.720 are different sects of these fallen entities on earth and they have different agenda.

01:08:30.460 They have the same big picture agenda, but they have different ways of getting there.

01:08:35.040 Like, you know, Democrats, Republicans, they all want to do the same thing, but they just

01:08:38.980 have different methodologies.

01:08:40.840 I like literally, oh, there you go.

01:08:42.980 Moloch, Moloch with the head of the, of the ox.

01:08:45.480 And then what do you have?

01:08:46.200 You have minotaurs, right?

01:08:47.640 Where like, I look at like Homer's odyssey more and more like, what the hell was this

01:08:51.820 guy really telling people?

01:08:53.220 Because, um, I, I've started, like, I had this conversation with my wife only an hour

01:08:58.720 or so ago, maybe a little bit more than that in the car.

01:09:01.120 And I'm like, yeah, I'm, this is how crazy your husband is.

01:09:03.660 I think that there's real precedent for minotaurs.

01:09:06.300 I think that there's real, you know, precedent for, I don't know, giant, giant cyclops and

01:09:10.820 things like that.

01:09:11.340 It's like, just keep making money, just keep making money doing it and whatever.

01:09:14.760 Yeah, exactly.

01:09:15.520 She's like, I don't care.

01:09:16.480 Just keep getting paid.

01:09:17.520 I'm looking at the time.

01:09:18.160 I think we're at an hour.

01:09:18.760 Do we have, are we need, do we need to stop or do we have a little bit?

01:09:21.720 Well, actually, probably another 10.

01:09:22.940 Let's do another 10 minutes.

01:09:23.900 Yeah.

01:09:24.080 All right.

01:09:24.300 So, uh, so I'm, I'm going to save the rebellion stuff for next week.

01:09:27.880 And I'm also going to save like maybe some of the other classes, but what I want to, a theory

01:09:31.900 I want to put out there, I think it's interesting is this.

01:09:34.700 Cause when you're looking at the idea of the cherubim and that they, each, each one

01:09:37.840 of them represent a class of, of, of life on earth.

01:09:41.400 Question is, is it a chicken and egg thing?

01:09:44.100 Did God say egg?

01:09:46.200 Sorry.

01:09:47.700 And, and I told you, be careful.

01:09:49.380 You say whatever you want on the show.

01:09:50.620 You did, I, I, I walk right into it.

01:09:52.700 Like, so everybody gets worse.

01:09:54.740 Did God, um, create the, the cherubim to look like this because he knew he was going

01:10:00.320 to create other mortal life to look like this?

01:10:03.360 Or did he base mortal life on the cherubim?

01:10:08.000 Did you say, you know what?

01:10:08.600 The cherubim, you guys are, are, you know, you got, you're my first creation.

01:10:11.900 You're my highest level of angels.

01:10:13.000 So I'm going to make my next set of creation, the mortal life look like you guys.

01:10:18.500 So I find that really fascinating.

01:10:20.540 Yeah.

01:10:20.940 Yeah.

01:10:21.180 I mean, that, that goes back to that whole idea of, um, we will make them in our image.

01:10:29.420 And that, that is a point of contention for a lot of people.

01:10:33.060 Yeah.

01:10:33.460 Uh, and I know that in the original translation, it says the Elohim, that's the, the word that

01:10:39.640 they use, but I, I just wonder if, if maybe there's something in that, like God creates

01:10:45.160 us, but he incorporates the point of view, or at least the opinions of these other entities

01:10:51.360 and then ultimately decides, yeah, we'll create them to, to resemble us.

01:10:58.460 Meaning when he says image, that word does not mean to look like physically.

01:11:03.460 Image means you being made in the image means you bear the image.

01:11:07.280 You, you bury the image of God.

01:11:09.020 Right.

01:11:09.340 I think this is a humanity to bear his image.

01:11:11.200 That means that creation is going to react to what react to Adam and Eve the same way

01:11:14.920 they were would react to God.

01:11:16.040 So they were made in the image and that they have spirit and that they have certain authority.

01:11:20.820 So it wasn't necessarily, what I'm getting at is like, we were imbued with some aspect

01:11:25.440 that would be akin to spiritual beings.

01:11:28.580 Our image after our likeness.

01:11:30.500 Is it now, I guess the argument he's talking to Jesus Christ and the Holy spirit or talk

01:11:34.460 like talking to himself or the other Elohim around him.

01:11:37.900 Right.

01:11:38.120 There are two thoughts on that.

01:11:39.540 One is that he's speaking the triune God is speaking that way.

01:11:44.240 Right.

01:11:44.340 Or that there, or, or Michael Heiser, um, who's one of my mentors, he says that according

01:11:50.820 to his, he's an expert PhD in, in Hebrew, he says it's, it's kind of like the Royal

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01:12:56.840 You know what I mean by that?

01:12:58.040 Like when you say, you know, when I say, you know, I'm going to get us some pizza.

01:13:03.080 Well, I'm the one buying the pizza.

01:13:06.400 You know, I said, when I say, let's get, let's get us some pizza.

01:13:09.640 I'm, I'm saying it, I'm doing it.

01:13:11.840 Right, right.

01:13:12.420 That's why I'm, so that's why I'm kind of leaning towards this idea that if it really

01:13:16.260 was these angelic beings that, that God is speaking to, it's more like he, cause he's

01:13:21.380 does seem to repeatedly throughout the Bible, consider what his creations think, or if they

01:13:26.220 have input or one way or another.

01:13:28.160 But he doesn't though.

01:13:29.080 He doesn't really consider what the angels think while he's talking to them.

01:13:33.620 Well, it depends.

01:13:34.260 I mean, in, in the book of Enoch, he cares what the angels think, right?

01:13:37.300 When, oh yeah, no, he does.

01:13:38.940 You're both right, actually in different ways.

01:13:41.280 Um, he, there are areas where he considers their opinion.

01:13:43.660 Now he definitely, he decides he's, he, he makes a final decision, but he does take their

01:13:47.900 input.

01:13:48.020 But you have, like you said, in the book of Enoch, you also have an, in the book of first

01:13:50.540 Kings when, I think we talked about this before, when, when they're deciding how they're going

01:13:54.060 to take out King Ahab and, and, um, and, and some, and several of the Elohim give him

01:13:59.320 different opinions.

01:14:00.280 And one of them says, I'm going to do this.

01:14:01.780 I'm going to make, I'll, I'll be a lying spirit in the mouth of his prophets.

01:14:04.180 And God says, that's a good idea.

01:14:05.200 Do that.

01:14:06.640 So he, oh, he can't, he, but, but the difference here in creation is God is acting unilaterally in

01:14:12.380 creation.

01:14:12.960 So he, so it can, it can be that he says, you know what, let's, let's make them like us.

01:14:18.740 In the sense that they're going to be spirit beings and have intelligence and all that.

01:14:21.800 Yeah.

01:14:21.980 That's what I'm saying.

01:14:22.900 But, but, but the angels didn't make us.

01:14:24.660 And that's where people like Billy Carson and folks who are saying that the angels made

01:14:28.520 us.

01:14:28.860 No, they didn't.

01:14:30.020 Right.

01:14:30.300 They might've bear witness to the process and maybe they even got to like, say like,

01:14:35.960 Hey, what about this or something?

01:14:37.920 And maybe God considered it, but that's kind of what it seems like.

01:14:40.420 Yeah.

01:14:40.540 You're standing around and God is, is making all the shots.

01:14:43.780 He's calling all the shots, but he is communing with his, this council that he's created of

01:14:48.860 other high ranking spiritual entities or just entities that exist in spiritual realms period.

01:14:53.500 And yeah, I mean, there's some aspect of us that is hugely spiritual.

01:14:57.240 So in that way, you know, is that the same?

01:15:00.520 That's, I wouldn't say that's the same thing for like a, you know, a turtle.

01:15:05.080 Does a turtle have like massive spiritual implications?

01:15:07.780 Is there a huge spiritual component to a turtle?

01:15:10.120 I don't know.

01:15:10.480 I don't, I don't think so, but there is clearly one to human beings.

01:15:13.400 So is that the likeness?

01:15:15.100 It could be.

01:15:15.620 I mean, it could, it, it, it might totally be that, um, the, the cherubim said, Hey God,

01:15:21.680 make them look like us.

01:15:22.820 Well, okay, sure.

01:15:24.460 Right.

01:15:25.340 Maybe.

01:15:25.600 There's nothing wrong with that.

01:15:26.180 And maybe, and maybe the Elohim that the cherubim that looks like humanity.

01:15:29.300 I don't know.

01:15:29.520 Maybe there's something special about that one.

01:15:30.980 Well, that's what, so, you know how we always say like there's nine truths and then they

01:15:34.000 sell, they sell you one, uh, you know, really, really fundamental lie.

01:15:37.980 Um, in order for them to be able to lie to us, it has to parallel the truth as closely

01:15:43.500 as possible.

01:15:44.580 So imagine like being in the room when we were made and then telling us that we actually

01:15:49.980 were made by them.

01:15:51.480 You know what I mean?

01:15:51.980 Like, it's like, no, you were close.

01:15:53.560 Like you were there, you were in the room.

01:15:55.100 You even had some conversations about the idea of creating us and maybe even had some input,

01:15:59.720 but that's not the same thing.

01:16:01.180 And so I wouldn't be surprised if there was something like that taking place.

01:16:04.800 They were there.

01:16:05.920 They did here.

01:16:06.560 They did maybe potentially even have input, but ultimately God is, is who created us.

01:16:11.000 Yeah.

01:16:11.420 It's funny.

01:16:11.720 I was having a conversation with someone this morning along, along the similar lines.

01:16:14.560 And like, it's a, if there was not a kernel of truth to it, we wouldn't believe it.

01:16:18.580 Exactly.

01:16:19.300 You cannot build anything long lasting on a foundation of lies.

01:16:22.200 There has to be truth at the core, and then you can slap all kinds of lies all over it

01:16:26.460 and it'll still stand, even though it's a Frankenstein, you know, monstrosity, but, um, without

01:16:32.220 that kernel of truth yet, it just falls apart.

01:16:34.480 So next week, um, I'll finish off the class of angels.

01:16:38.240 We'll talk about archangels and the watchers and, you know, the, the other ones that Paul

01:16:43.420 mentions, like, you know, um, uh, principalities and, um, spiritual wickedness in high places

01:16:49.240 and all these different ones.

01:16:50.520 And then we'll get into some of the rebellion, what that might've entailed and get into Genesis

01:16:55.780 one, two, awesome.

01:16:57.540 Well, I mean, let's, uh, let's bring it in for a landing then.

01:17:00.540 Cause we got to jump into another show.

01:17:02.140 Uh, one more time, Ed, where can everybody find your material until next week?

01:17:06.640 Um, yeah, uh, faithbyreason.net where the legacy stuff is, the new stuff and all the great

01:17:11.820 interaction is going to be, um, on the Patreon, patreon.com slash faith by reason.

01:17:18.280 You can, you get access to, um, bonus material, new stuff that I put out first Q and A's and

01:17:24.300 what's going to be going out today and the Bible study.

01:17:26.660 You'll be a part of that.

01:17:27.840 I said, now weekly notes on the Bible study.

01:17:29.760 And then once a month it's live, half an hour of overview, another half hour of Q and

01:17:34.860 a and commentary.

01:17:35.500 And yeah, it's, it's, we had one so far.

01:17:37.880 It's been great.

01:17:38.500 Looking forward to the next one on, I think the 16th of March.

01:17:41.540 And yeah, that's how we do it.

01:17:44.200 Awesome.

01:17:44.680 Perfect.

01:17:44.960 I'm going to try to be there live for the next one because I want the replay.

01:17:48.180 It's just, you know, sometimes during the weekend, it's harder for us, but, uh, I want

01:17:51.380 to be there live.

01:17:52.000 Yeah.

01:17:52.080 I think live is more meaningful.

01:17:53.440 I want to troll the chat live.

01:17:56.160 We want to derail you from the, from the chat.

01:17:58.380 That's what we're going to do.

01:17:59.860 Um, well guys go and check out faithbyreason.net support Ed and all of his work.

01:18:04.180 It's, uh, there's a lot there, uh, to be gleamed.

01:18:07.080 And, uh, I suppose until next time, top, is that all we got?

01:18:10.980 That's it until next time.

01:18:11.980 Don't forget to obey, submit, and comply.

01:18:15.200 We'll see you later.

01:18:16.580 The greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.

01:18:22.580 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

01:18:26.360 If you can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see, because

01:18:33.080 they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's

01:18:38.460 happening.

01:18:38.720 I think, huh?

01:18:40.440 Oh, oh, oh, yeah.

01:18:45.120 Thank you.

Nephilim Death Squad - February 28, 2025

02： Christian Embarrassment - The Book of Genesis w⧸ Ed Mabrie

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