Nephilim Death Squad - January 12, 2024


021: Spiritual Warfare and the Coming Battle w⧸ Tony Merkel


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 14 minutes

Words per Minute

192.49889

Word Count

25,880

Sentence Count

1,849

Misogynist Sentences

20

Hate Speech Sentences

33


Summary

On this week's episode of the NDS Death Squad, the boys are joined by special guest Tony Melchor to talk about the first nuclear atom bomb test, a new Rife Technology shirt, and much, much more!


Transcript

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00:00:15.320 Welcome back, guys, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.
00:00:18.180 We have an absolute banger for you today in the form of Tony Merkel.
00:00:22.520 But before we get into that, a little bit of business up front.
00:00:25.400 But please don't forget to go to YouTube, Rumble, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts and subscribe to us there.
00:00:33.300 Leave us a five-star rating. Leave us a review.
00:00:36.140 And that's a great way to help the show grow.
00:00:38.640 If you want to contribute monetarily to the show, you can do so at patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad,
00:00:46.800 where we offer a $3 tier, a $7 tier, and a $10 tier, all of which don't mean anything right now.
00:00:54.980 But we are dropping not a single thing.
00:00:58.620 You could either be a butt homunculus, Death Squad Soldier, or Nephilim Hunter, which is the elite tier.
00:01:05.320 And we are dropping a promotional code in there this week, actually.
00:01:10.280 So if you are a paid, maybe, if we feel like it.
00:01:13.280 But if you're a paid subscriber, you'll see that promo code pop up for you.
00:01:18.800 And that promo code will bring you to, or rather, you can use it at toplobsta.com.
00:01:25.920 And at toplobsta.com is where we keep all of our NDS merch, our Nephilim Death Squad merch.
00:01:33.280 So if you want a super dope shirt, if you want a hoodie, if you want backpacks, even, jackets.
00:01:41.880 And actually, we also dropped the Rife Technology shirt within a collaboration with Real Rife Technology.
00:01:49.940 So if you go and pick up that.
00:01:50.860 We'll get into that.
00:01:51.880 We got some new designs.
00:01:53.180 We got that Nephilim Miami stuff.
00:01:54.940 Know Your Clown shit.
00:01:55.960 That's a fun...
00:01:57.000 That's just like basically hand-drawn completely.
00:01:59.060 Not even fonts there.
00:01:59.920 You can go there.
00:02:01.680 We've got book bags, Nike jackets, whatever, like embroidered stuff.
00:02:05.680 Really cool, high-quality stuff.
00:02:07.720 And at that top section there, you can go to Rife Technology as well.
00:02:11.180 We have a couple of designs for Matt Rife.
00:02:13.840 That's Real Rife Technology.
00:02:15.500 I'll show you his website in a second.
00:02:17.120 If you buy any of these shirts, you will be entered into a raffle to win Real Royal Rife Machine.
00:02:24.560 And this is a really cool offer.
00:02:26.980 I don't understand why we have even been given the ability to offer this to you.
00:02:32.840 It's a $5,000 machine.
00:02:35.560 And the guy is like, hey, give it away for free to anybody who buys your shirts for the month of January.
00:02:41.620 So from now until the month of January, if you buy so much as a hat, you're eligible to win a $5,500 enhanced Royal Rife Machine, which is absolutely wild.
00:02:54.940 So I haven't figured it out.
00:02:57.640 We don't know.
00:02:58.760 It is a time machine.
00:03:01.380 As far as I'm concerned, it is a time machine.
00:03:03.800 But it only brings you back to the moment and the location of the first nuclear atom bomb test.
00:03:11.840 And so use at your own discretion.
00:03:14.280 We discuss frequencies a little bit in this upcoming episode.
00:03:21.060 And frequencies and vibration, this is very much in that realm.
00:03:26.040 But it's more for the good side of the frequency and vibration.
00:03:29.420 Healing, different ailments, all around bettering yourself.
00:03:34.680 I use this stuff.
00:03:35.620 Me and David have the silver spoonie.
00:03:38.440 I'll show you that right now.
00:03:39.460 I use it every night and I feel like there are benefits to this.
00:03:45.740 So you can go to realrifetechnology.com and if you use promo code Nephilim, N-E-P-H-I-L-I-M,
00:03:54.220 you can get 10% off of all these products.
00:03:57.220 It's really cool.
00:03:58.700 Go there.
00:03:59.120 Go support the homie.
00:04:00.760 Go support us.
00:04:01.960 Buy one of these little bowls.
00:04:02.980 This shit is cool.
00:04:03.700 You put this in the middle of that thing and you'll see it spinning to the vibration and frequency
00:04:07.540 that you have it set to.
00:04:08.340 That's how you actually know that it's working.
00:04:10.320 I didn't know that initially.
00:04:11.520 Now I know that that'll be an indication that it's working.
00:04:13.840 But if you're listening to all of the negative frequencies that are being put out by, let's
00:04:18.140 say, a very gay Lil Nas X, all his satanic homosexual frequencies, you probably can repair
00:04:25.040 the damage that's done to you by tuning to the correct frequency on the enhanced Royal
00:04:29.540 Rife machine and starting to undo the gay satanic agenda that is being pressed upon you
00:04:35.900 by Lil Nas X and his homophobic, or I'm sorry, homosexual agenda.
00:04:41.240 And so yeah, go to realrifetechnologies.com.
00:04:43.280 And that's actually, remember that guys, realrifetechnology.com.
00:04:47.440 The reason I say that is because you will actually step in a bunch of booby traps.
00:04:51.780 There are a lot of fakers out there who are trying to sell his technology.
00:04:54.940 I discovered this.
00:04:55.540 I don't know if you noticed that top, but if you try to look it up, you'll go to some
00:04:58.800 wrong places.
00:04:59.280 So guys, realrifetechnology.com, use promo code NEPHILIM, that's N-E-P-H-I-L-I-M, for
00:05:06.580 10% off at checkout.
00:05:08.760 All right, ready to start the show?
00:05:10.400 Let's do it.
00:05:11.420 Let's go.
00:05:12.660 We are being hypnotized by people like this.
00:05:18.740 Newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers.
00:05:22.780 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
00:05:31.760 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely
00:05:36.860 true.
00:05:37.640 Oh yeah, dude.
00:05:38.840 There's some Nephilim shit.
00:05:40.020 It's like we all know what's going down.
00:05:42.680 We know what's saying to what happened to the home of the brave.
00:05:45.880 But the kids are controlling us now.
00:05:47.880 We know we're talking about it.
00:05:49.260 And it's hard to be slaves.
00:05:50.780 And everybody's just walking around, heading to clouds and won't awaken to a dead in the
00:05:55.240 grave.
00:05:56.220 By the way, it's too late.
00:05:57.200 We need to be ready to raise up.
00:05:59.040 Welcome to the end of day.
00:06:00.760 Everybody is played.
00:06:02.200 Only some are aware that the government releasing points.
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00:06:20.780 Welcome back, guys, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.
00:06:24.960 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a.
00:06:27.120 The Raven.
00:06:28.020 That's Top Lobster.
00:06:29.240 And today we are joined by a man who virtually blazed the trail that Top and I follow today.
00:06:35.260 And actually, he doesn't know it.
00:06:36.680 He's responsible for Top and I meeting each other.
00:06:39.520 I don't know if Top's forgotten that, but I certainly has it.
00:06:41.980 We're massive fans on the show.
00:06:43.900 And this is a huge moment for us.
00:06:46.320 We're totally thrilled to have on Tony Merkel.
00:06:49.480 Tony, can you please tell the audience a little bit about what it is you do and where
00:06:53.720 they can find your work?
00:06:54.540 Tony, can you tell us how it feels to like, you set up a romance in your, a bromance in
00:07:00.540 your chat for your app.
00:07:02.280 That's what's going on.
00:07:03.120 We're using it like a dating site at this point.
00:07:05.220 Is that how it happened?
00:07:07.560 Yeah.
00:07:07.920 That's exactly how it happened, dude.
00:07:09.680 He's like, you're crazy?
00:07:10.920 He's like, oh, I'm crazy too.
00:07:12.120 Let's do this show.
00:07:12.920 I'm like, all right.
00:07:13.760 I know Top said something crazy in the chat.
00:07:16.100 I was like, I like the cut of this guy's jib.
00:07:17.960 Found him on Twitter.
00:07:18.800 And then the rest is history, man.
00:07:20.500 That's wild.
00:07:22.160 That's wild.
00:07:23.000 I did not know that.
00:07:24.160 I did not know that.
00:07:25.080 That's right.
00:07:26.400 Well, I guess the confessionals memberships are serving multiple purposes these days.
00:07:31.400 That's more.
00:07:32.800 That's fantastic.
00:07:34.000 No, I can't do that.
00:07:34.980 I think in today's time and stuff, everybody else is charging more.
00:07:38.260 We're going to keep it all the same and hopefully God will just provide the rest of the way.
00:07:42.820 But I got to say that intro slaps.
00:07:48.620 I like that, right?
00:07:49.640 Who is that?
00:07:50.520 Who is that?
00:07:51.560 That's Vinny Paz, End of Days.
00:07:54.220 Every time I hear it, every time.
00:07:56.460 And there's actually a point where David's headphones, for some reason, he wasn't hearing that music.
00:08:01.540 And I was like, every time we come into the show, I'm like, I'm ready to flip the desk
00:08:04.780 over and he's not listening to it.
00:08:06.460 I just come in super hype every single time.
00:08:08.560 Vinny Paz does it every time.
00:08:09.940 I'm glad that we're like vibrating like that now.
00:08:12.280 Oh, yeah.
00:08:13.120 That's like that East Coast vibe.
00:08:14.660 I mean, I grew up in like the, I guess it's called old school hip hop now.
00:08:19.940 I mean, the mid 2000s and stuff, the East Coast, Philadelphia.
00:08:24.280 I mean, it's just that had that hard.
00:08:27.360 I love it.
00:08:28.360 Anyways.
00:08:28.920 Yeah.
00:08:29.280 I'm Tony Merkel.
00:08:29.900 I host the Confessionals podcast.
00:08:32.420 I run Merkel Media as well.
00:08:35.920 It's an inspiring media company.
00:08:38.860 And we are, we're trying our best to venture into not just podcasts, but films as well.
00:08:46.980 One day, well, definitely movies.
00:08:49.060 We're coming out with our first movie in the summertime this year.
00:08:52.240 We already shot it.
00:08:53.340 It's in production now, post-production.
00:08:54.800 And I would love to do kids cartoons one day, things like that.
00:08:58.880 But one thing at a time, I'm learning as I get older that I get a lot of ideas and jumping
00:09:04.880 on my ideas right away without fear got me here.
00:09:09.000 But to sustain, I need to start developing plans with these dreams and ideas that I have.
00:09:14.540 So I am no longer just thinking of things and executing.
00:09:18.660 I am now thinking of things, planning the execution.
00:09:22.740 And if it makes sense, then we execute.
00:09:26.100 So yeah, that's a little bit about me.
00:09:28.060 Former truck driver turned podcaster full-time.
00:09:31.060 And I just have fun talking about weird stuff.
00:09:34.760 Nice.
00:09:35.360 I think delegation is going to be probably one of your keys to success,
00:09:38.520 but you got to find people that you trust.
00:09:40.200 And that's like a...
00:09:41.100 It's not easy.
00:09:42.540 Not easy.
00:09:43.140 Yeah.
00:09:43.280 It's like, I feel like I'm juggling maybe seven different things at the same time
00:09:46.760 and you're not doing your best unless you got two, you know, but it's what it is.
00:09:51.900 It's when you build something up on your own, it's not easy to hand it off to anybody.
00:10:00.380 Then you will be a micromanager at first because it's your baby
00:10:03.740 and you don't think anybody can do what you do.
00:10:06.480 And to a certain extent, you're right.
00:10:09.180 But they can if you teach them and you just have to be willing to do that.
00:10:13.860 And, you know, I'm getting to that point where I'm understanding that
00:10:18.100 in order for me to take it to another level, I need to be able to let go of certain things.
00:10:24.380 I learned that with production.
00:10:25.740 I haven't produced one of my podcast episodes since March of 2023.
00:10:29.060 My brother came on full-time.
00:10:30.280 He started doing it for me.
00:10:31.580 That's that.
00:10:32.060 Um, but I, I need to be able to let out, let go of other things because whenever I'm focusing
00:10:37.880 on one thing, there's five other things that are being neglected just because I have so
00:10:43.360 much to do that whenever I focus in on one thing that I have to do, five other things
00:10:48.000 that I have to do are being neglected at that very moment.
00:10:50.460 And so what can we do?
00:10:51.860 What can we do to get you some like good people that you can delegate stuff to?
00:10:55.520 So that way we can get this new podcast series that I've been waiting for like years for,
00:10:59.920 man.
00:11:00.280 This is one of the things.
00:11:01.680 I know.
00:11:02.020 I wish I never talked about it to be honest with you, because it's just been, it's been,
00:11:07.380 it was, I never expected it to go this long.
00:11:10.820 Um, it's just been, it's just been one of those things where people, I, first of all,
00:11:18.220 didn't expect people to be so fascinated by it as I was.
00:11:22.140 Um, but then I, the main character of the story, I really thought he would have talked
00:11:29.440 to me by now.
00:11:30.700 I really did.
00:11:32.820 And to this day, he, he knows who I am.
00:11:35.980 He knows that I talk about him.
00:11:37.820 He will not talk to me.
00:11:39.400 He said he would talk to me when the timing's right, but I don't know when that is.
00:11:43.480 And I can't wait forever.
00:11:46.220 Uh, so I'm in this really weird spot, but I am working on it.
00:11:50.800 Um, so my original recording with, uh, with the guy that told me about all this stuff,
00:11:57.740 uh, we have, well, he's decided that he doesn't want his, his real name attached to this.
00:12:03.180 So I'm in the process of changing his name on the original recording.
00:12:06.620 We're also, um, through the absolute amazing Nephilim AI.
00:12:13.880 Uh, we are utilizing that to change voices.
00:12:18.740 Uh, we are changing, um, we even changed the name of the book.
00:12:24.460 Uh, because I, I, the, listen, the author requested me to not tell the name of the book
00:12:33.220 because the author has tried to divorce themselves from their own book.
00:12:36.920 They've wiped it off the internet and, um, I'm trying to be respectful.
00:12:42.740 You know, I don't think that plan is going to work because there are certain people in
00:12:48.940 this world who do know the name of the book, who I've been made of aware that can't really
00:12:55.440 keep it to themselves.
00:12:58.160 Uh, and so it's not really my fault.
00:13:02.900 I feel bad, but I'm going to do everything I can to, because here's the thing.
00:13:07.700 If the world knows the name of the book, it doesn't change anything.
00:13:10.640 You're not going to get the book.
00:13:12.060 It's not for sale.
00:13:13.180 You can't get it anywhere, anywhere.
00:13:16.900 I have one of the only copies physically cop in the world.
00:13:21.400 And the only thing that's going to come out of it is the author's life is going to be put
00:13:26.280 through hell.
00:13:26.700 They've been trying to get away from it.
00:13:28.920 They've moved halfway across the country to get away from it.
00:13:31.820 And that's the only thing that's going to change is that the person, the person that
00:13:34.980 is trying to stay away from it is going to be dragged into this by thousands of people.
00:13:39.220 It's a shame.
00:13:40.780 Do you think, sorry, as, uh, the audience kind of waits on bated breath.
00:13:46.260 Well, I was going to bounce off of that, but, but top, you want to, you want to delve a
00:13:50.620 little bit further?
00:13:51.560 Uh, I was just going to say, do you think in any way you might be responsible for, uh, some
00:13:56.460 kind of manifestation of, I mean, literally the Nephilim in Miami, things like that.
00:14:01.360 Like we, we've been saying, uh, the term Nephilim shit a lot.
00:14:05.440 And since we've been saying it, it's become like, uh, I don't know, like I clipped Owen
00:14:10.540 Benjamin.
00:14:11.100 We just had Sam Tripoli saying it, but it's, it's, it's, we've lost control of this stuff.
00:14:14.720 So it's, it's out there in the ether now to the point where we were mentioning the other
00:14:19.280 day on the show, you had entities in Miami, but the, the people that are not reporting,
00:14:25.580 but are talking about this, a lot of them are comfortable with saying Nephilim in Miami.
00:14:29.800 Whereas six months ago, when you had the aliens, aliens in Las Vegas, the tall ones, right?
00:14:36.700 We're calling them aliens or entities, but never Nephilim.
00:14:40.060 And now that's being moved into the dialectic or at least what people are allowing themselves
00:14:44.780 to perceive.
00:14:45.900 So with you, what you're doing here is, and what you might do with this next thing, what
00:14:51.260 does that, do you, do you think about that at all?
00:14:53.560 Like, I would argue regardless of, of whatever, and of course, you know, pass it to Tony in
00:14:59.300 a second, but regardless of what Tony thinks from the outside looking in, yeah, dude, you
00:15:03.220 move the narrative.
00:15:04.060 Like the reason that we were able to get Nephilim shit into the verbal zeitgeist is because of
00:15:11.000 your influence.
00:15:12.020 And so whether it's by proxy or directly, you've moved the conversation, uh, in a, in
00:15:18.780 a pretty dramatic way, even on a platform that like, it's funny because you're not there
00:15:23.280 on Twitter.
00:15:23.760 I wish you were Twitter needs, uh, Tony Merkel, but, um, I'm there just very inactive.
00:15:29.400 Yeah.
00:15:29.800 Well, uh, it's the place to be right now.
00:15:31.800 It's a lot of fun.
00:15:32.380 It's the wild, wild West to a certain degree.
00:15:34.360 And the conversation that's being had about all these Nephilim and everything that is, that's
00:15:38.000 a, your influence.
00:15:38.840 So, you know, I'm interested to hear your take on it, but I also want to say that regardless
00:15:43.720 of whatever you think you did kind of, uh, this is almost your brain baby in a way, which
00:15:48.200 is, uh, very interesting to see the development of this.
00:15:51.740 That's one of the most crazy things that anybody has ever said to me.
00:15:54.880 I, I, um, I don't know if I want that responsibility.
00:16:03.180 Uh, I, I just, um, no, I don't, I refuse to accept that.
00:16:11.220 Uh, I, listen, I've been doing this for seven years, podcasting about all this stuff.
00:16:18.840 When I first started the podcast, before I started the podcast, I had this thought and
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00:16:39.160 I was, I was trying to figure out what Bigfoot was and I was driving track to trailer.
00:16:46.220 I had a, uh, I had a Facebook group called Pennsylvania Sasquatch research.
00:16:50.660 There was no research going on.
00:16:52.080 We're just talking Bigfoot crap.
00:16:54.100 And, um, on weekends I would go hiking up in Pennsylvania and I would just go look for
00:16:59.920 this thing.
00:17:00.540 And I was like, man, when I first started, I was like, it's not gonna be that hard.
00:17:04.980 Like if this thing's out there, I'm going to find it.
00:17:06.800 Like it ain't going to be that hard.
00:17:07.920 I'm going to find a freaking Bigfoot.
00:17:09.240 It ain't that hard.
00:17:09.800 It's a big creature.
00:17:10.760 I'm going to find, I'm going to find clues of it and I'm going to go track it down.
00:17:14.640 I'm going to get famous or something.
00:17:16.040 I don't know.
00:17:16.900 And, um, it's hard.
00:17:20.140 And, uh, the, the longer I looked at it, I was like, no, this, this thing is a physical
00:17:26.820 creature.
00:17:28.320 I don't want to talk about it in this woo woo stuff.
00:17:31.000 This, these people that are talking about, Oh, Bigfoot mind speaks with me.
00:17:34.260 Get out of here.
00:17:35.600 Bigfoot ain't no mind speaking with you.
00:17:37.940 Crazy.
00:17:39.340 And, um, and then I, I came across and I was raised in the, in the church.
00:17:46.180 Right.
00:17:46.580 But nobody talked about Nephilim in the church.
00:17:48.680 And I came across this Nephilim idea and I was like, hold on a second.
00:17:55.760 Fallen angels had sex with what?
00:17:57.700 Like, and I was like, and then what was the offspring?
00:18:01.100 And then there's this book called Enoch what?
00:18:03.520 And what does it say in there?
00:18:05.040 And then when I read about how the fallen angels not only did that with women, but they did
00:18:11.600 it with all of God's creation.
00:18:12.720 I was like, hold on a second.
00:18:13.960 And then my gears start turning.
00:18:14.960 And this may not even be accurate, but this is where my mind went.
00:18:17.860 Uh, my mom was like, what if fallen angels not only had sex with women, but they had
00:18:22.820 sex with like gorillas or something.
00:18:24.880 What would that offspring look like?
00:18:27.680 Bigfoot.
00:18:28.040 And I was like, holy crap.
00:18:30.180 And then I started thinking about like this idea of like, what if Bigfoot's like the Nephilim
00:18:34.220 or like a type of Nephilim and offshoot.
00:18:37.460 And then I, and then, um, the podcasting thing came on my radar and I was like still in this
00:18:43.980 like camp of like Bigfoot's a physical creature we're trying to keep up with and find.
00:18:48.100 And then there's like this bubbling thing beneath the surface that I was trying to sort out in
00:18:52.620 my own heart and mind.
00:18:53.780 And, um, right when I started the podcast, I was like, I don't know if I should talk about
00:18:59.200 this.
00:18:59.980 I don't know.
00:19:00.920 I don't know.
00:19:02.460 And then by the fourth episode, I was like, I'm going to talk about it.
00:19:05.520 And we did a whole, our first, uh, Nephilim episode was episode four with my professor
00:19:11.440 from college who talked about Nephilim.
00:19:13.540 And, um, he came into my, my quote unquote studio.
00:19:17.260 It was my, uh, my third bedroom in the house that became my daughter's bedroom years later.
00:19:22.440 And he sat across from me of a folding, uh, plastic folding table with, uh, two microphones
00:19:30.120 that I, I had gotten and awful recording, but, um, that's where it started for me.
00:19:36.640 And, uh, since then it's just been an evolution of a thought process.
00:19:42.800 And I don't think my professor from college would probably agree with everything that
00:19:48.040 I think today, or maybe how I view it, uh, my leanings.
00:19:53.220 Um, but we all agree on the same thing as far as him and I go, which is the foundation
00:19:58.900 is always Jesus.
00:20:00.340 And from there we build.
00:20:02.080 Um, if it, if anything that we come across takes away from who Jesus Christ is, then we
00:20:08.080 don't, we don't play that.
00:20:09.660 And, um, but, uh, but I, I don't think that the Bible tells us everything that happened
00:20:16.440 throughout every moment of history.
00:20:18.240 It tells us all the key ingredients to point us towards Christ.
00:20:23.060 But, um, there's a whole history of humanity and the whole history of the world that is not
00:20:27.480 in the Bible.
00:20:28.680 Um, and people have a hard time grappling with that within the religious community.
00:20:33.720 Um, so I don't know how I got on that, but it's, take it back to your thing.
00:20:39.140 I don't know if I am responsible for all this stuff, but, um, I do find it interesting how
00:20:47.540 the more I talk about it, more it seems like it's popping up.
00:20:51.960 I mean, it's really weird.
00:20:54.780 Can I say this one?
00:20:56.080 I think the, the most valuable thing on your show, you explore a plethora of topics, right?
00:21:02.960 Because it's, it's basically the supernatural through the biblical lens.
00:21:08.300 And that right there is, in my opinion, the most valuable thing that's come of this, at
00:21:14.280 least from, from my personal experience, I've been a conspiracy theorist for like 16 years,
00:21:18.980 maybe 17 years now.
00:21:20.740 And what I find is that it's, it's very much like developing a giant jigsaw puzzle.
00:21:27.740 And you're only, uh, you've got an island of puzzle pieces over here and that paints
00:21:32.720 a picture.
00:21:33.200 And then you've got another island over here and that paints a picture.
00:21:35.660 And you spend all this time wondering how these chunks of jigsaw pieces connect to one
00:21:40.120 another.
00:21:40.780 And after, I guess I've been listening to your show for a couple of years now.
00:21:46.780 So it would have been like after 14 or 15 years, I finally realized that, oh, the biblical lens
00:21:54.320 is the glue that brings all of these chunks together.
00:21:58.200 And from then on, man, it was like, I was dealing with all these topics separately from
00:22:06.620 one another.
00:22:07.600 And it was, it wasn't allowing my thought process to flow very effectively.
00:22:11.040 I knew that things weren't as they seem, that I knew that there was corruption that was
00:22:14.760 like beyond the scope of the average human being.
00:22:17.540 Um, and that there was a, a really immense spiritual aspect that was integral to this
00:22:25.740 entire picture, but trying to figure out how it fit together.
00:22:28.460 Didn't really, I wasn't quite there yet.
00:22:31.040 And then all of a sudden listening to your show, uh, and, and that's another thing I love
00:22:36.200 about your show is everybody comes to your show with a different piece, a different piece
00:22:39.820 of the puzzle and you're discovering it in real time alongside the audience.
00:22:45.240 And so I was able to have this moment, uh, just like the audience and, and almost felt
00:22:51.220 like, just like you were, it was like epiphanous.
00:22:54.340 I was going, oh my God, that was the missing magnifying lens.
00:22:59.640 The missing piece glue.
00:23:00.740 The piece that he adds is, is Jesus Christ right in the center of it.
00:23:04.580 Right.
00:23:05.100 Cause you came from conspiracy.
00:23:06.900 I came from like, I grew my following, uh, in politics and, and art.
00:23:12.180 And that's like libertarian politics where you would take, like, I'm a Christian, but they
00:23:17.220 would take God out of it and just explore it philosophically and, you know, really read
00:23:21.980 into it without, and try to try to find as much logic as possible in the political realm.
00:23:26.840 And none of it made any sense.
00:23:28.260 Like I could, I, all these books behind me, that's like, oh, like Rothbard, Mises, stuff
00:23:31.620 like that, uh, it would bore you like human action is this thick.
00:23:35.280 And in the end I realized, oh no, this is all spiritual.
00:23:39.440 And it's really your show that kind of allowed me to see that because I grew up in the church
00:23:44.380 as well.
00:23:44.980 And I found it kind of corny because they're not, they weren't addressing the issues in
00:23:50.120 my opinion, that were really fundamental in my life.
00:23:53.280 So, you know, and I, and there's a, there's a place for that too, in church, you know,
00:23:56.940 there's a place for, uh, evangelism and different kinds of outreach and people who aren't
00:24:00.620 ready for this kind of stuff.
00:24:02.260 But for me going to Sunday school as like a 12 year old, I was always asking about the
00:24:06.880 Bible.
00:24:07.140 And I had a good Sunday school teacher who would go and read and come back to me and
00:24:10.500 say like, well, this is what this meant.
00:24:11.800 This is what that meant.
00:24:13.200 Um, but yeah, your, your show had me go back and relook at Christianity in a different light.
00:24:20.620 Like from a point where I wanted nothing to do with the church.
00:24:24.400 I played, I met my wife there, played guitar there, got kicked out of the church for it.
00:24:29.020 Not, not for anything I did wrong.
00:24:30.840 I told the pastor to shove it because he was stealing money.
00:24:33.000 It's a whole thing.
00:24:34.040 Um, well, I would say you're in the right then, but Hey, yeah, you know, there's a reason
00:24:38.640 why I'm not a pastor.
00:24:39.580 So I don't know.
00:24:41.180 Yeah, it was, it was, it was a whole thing, but it was, it discouraged me from going back
00:24:44.780 to the church.
00:24:45.300 And even now I can't really go back to the church because it's, it, some of the, I mean,
00:24:49.600 the ones around me seem kind of like, uh, like they don't really understand what's going
00:24:54.520 on and I I've been looking, we, we had a Orthodox Christian on, I've been looking at that type
00:25:00.780 of church.
00:25:01.180 Maybe that one might make more sense for, you know, where I need to go.
00:25:05.980 But, uh, well, let me say this.
00:25:07.980 Uh, I, a couple of things.
00:25:11.500 One, um, I went through a phase where I, I didn't go to church during the show.
00:25:19.220 Um, I was disenfranchised and I was mad.
00:25:21.920 Uh, I was mad that, uh, the church that I was going to, that was, uh, the, the long story,
00:25:29.560 but I was just like, you guys literally are rejecting the supernatural, natural aspects of
00:25:35.040 God, uh, for comfortability and for what I perceived as you don't want to scare the money
00:25:41.180 away.
00:25:42.240 Um, and living in the Northeast, you guys are in Florida now, but I can tell by your accent,
00:25:47.140 you're from the city, probably New York.
00:25:49.860 Um, yeah.
00:25:51.460 Um, but like up in that area, uh, it's, the culture does not leave room for supernatural.
00:25:58.860 Uh, it just doesn't.
00:26:00.680 And even these Pentecostal churches, which I was going to, um, this, the church that I
00:26:05.020 went, was going to was started by the professor that went to my college, that was teaching
00:26:11.300 at my college, which was a Assemblies of God Pentecostal Bible college.
00:26:14.760 Um, but, um, I was so disenfranchised by so many different things.
00:26:19.600 I was like, I'm done.
00:26:20.940 I can grow spiritually on my own and I don't need y'all.
00:26:26.260 And I was doing great until I realized that I needed that.
00:26:31.620 I needed that, that Christian fellowship in my life.
00:26:34.860 And I started seeing it because anybody who's honest with himself will see it.
00:26:41.440 Uh, I saw a very, it was gradual, but it was a decline in my, my health spiritually because
00:26:49.400 I, the only people I was associating with were people who were not claiming Christ.
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00:27:08.520 And, uh, it took a burden on me.
00:27:10.640 Uh, so I say that just to say, uh, as the guest on your show, I encourage you to find
00:27:14.860 a church.
00:27:15.400 Don't give up.
00:27:16.300 Um, but, uh, I also think it's really interesting what you guys are saying because, uh,
00:27:22.880 so I, over the years, people hear how the show goes and trust me, if you think it, I've
00:27:29.480 heard, I've read it in an email to me.
00:27:31.440 Um, people will say, I wish you would have said this.
00:27:34.420 I wish you would have told this person that why didn't you, why did you let them say all
00:27:40.300 that stuff?
00:27:42.340 I let people, I, I lead people to the water.
00:27:47.340 I don't force them to drink.
00:27:48.360 Uh, and when you guys are saying how you guys came to this understanding from your different
00:27:54.460 backgrounds and stuff, it's, it's literally music to my ears because, um, that's the goal.
00:28:01.960 That's the goal for, for me.
00:28:04.100 Uh, I'm not interested in debating people.
00:28:06.420 I'm not interested in trying to publicly humiliate people and, and prove to them that I'm right
00:28:11.060 and they're wrong.
00:28:12.280 Uh, I believe that just through open discord and just the conversation, uh, you let the
00:28:18.880 cards fall where they may and the truth will show itself.
00:28:22.140 And I think that when people look into these different topics, whether it's coming from
00:28:25.940 political angle or a spiritual angle or paranormal angle or whatever, uh, conspiracy angle, uh,
00:28:32.020 you do get to a point where the, to marry everything together, you're just like, what, what, what's
00:28:39.960 that glue piece?
00:28:41.420 And for me, I've found that it is the spiritual aspect of it.
00:28:45.280 The Bible, the God aspect, when you start looking into it and you're like, oh, well, that makes
00:28:49.920 sense why this is over here then.
00:28:51.420 And that's over there.
00:28:52.400 And all of a sudden things are start coming together.
00:28:54.360 And, uh, it's funny because I have people in my, my real life, not my online life, but
00:28:59.520 my real life who will say things like such a, such like, um, I wish so-and-so would just
00:29:05.120 come to Christ because everything they're saying is right, but they just don't see why they believe
00:29:10.480 what they believe because they don't, they don't give God and the Bible any kind of credence.
00:29:15.980 And that, that kind of attitude is what I get reciprocated to me in emails a lot of times.
00:29:22.600 Why didn't you just say, and it's like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to sacrifice somebody's
00:29:30.240 eternity at the altar of your entertainment.
00:29:32.980 Um, I'm like your entertainment of the, I got you, isn't worth me trying to prove somebody
00:29:42.820 wrong in front of tens of thousands of people.
00:29:45.880 I wish I could say hundreds of thousands, but I could say tens of thousands of people.
00:29:49.100 Um, uh, I mean, let's put it this way, you know, in the seven day period there, it over
00:29:56.780 a hundred thousand people listened to my podcast.
00:29:58.980 And so, um, that's a lot of people and I'm not going to have people coming on my show and
00:30:09.320 their only interaction with me was a guy who's overzealous trying to get his point across that
00:30:17.780 Jesus is, is the only way, which is what I believe.
00:30:22.040 And, and what's that, what's that going to accomplish?
00:30:26.280 Here's the thing, Tony, you've done a wonderful job.
00:30:29.000 Like I've watched a lot of Christian media.
00:30:30.840 Like my mom is, you know, big in the church.
00:30:32.840 She lives on my property over here and always has some kind of Christian movie or something
00:30:37.060 on.
00:30:37.900 And the overall theme of Christian movies and most music is that it's corny.
00:30:43.300 And why is that?
00:30:45.100 Because it's going to sound crazy, but like they're putting Jesus right in your face.
00:30:49.780 Right?
00:30:50.060 So instead of it being about the art, it's about Jesus and that's great.
00:30:53.380 It should be, but it doesn't move people.
00:30:56.220 It has to be like this message.
00:30:57.900 Like your show is about Jesus Christ.
00:30:59.860 I don't care what you want to say in the end of the day, when, when I, when you compile all
00:31:04.400 these episodes and you kind of say, what the, what's Tony talking about?
00:31:07.100 He's talking about Jesus Christ the whole time, but you're not saying it it's implied.
00:31:11.240 So the audience that you're reaching is bigger.
00:31:13.520 And it's also this kind of like underlying, it's like, watch a couple of episodes, get
00:31:17.520 comfortable here.
00:31:18.240 And then once they're comfortable, they're like, they, they put it together themselves.
00:31:21.400 Whereas if you were obvious with it, I honestly, I probably would have turned it off because
00:31:25.560 then it seems like, like, all right, this is something, what is this?
00:31:29.060 Like there's an agenda here, you know?
00:31:31.040 It's almost like, it's like, what's better to, to dress in a Jesus t-shirt or to have Jesus
00:31:37.580 in your heart.
00:31:38.480 Right.
00:31:38.740 And it's like, well, that's the show.
00:31:39.820 The show isn't wearing a Jesus shirt.
00:31:42.480 It's, it's at the heart of the show.
00:31:45.940 I mean, I, I, I appreciate that guys.
00:31:48.820 I really do.
00:31:50.160 I just, I just don't want, I just don't want to let, let God down, man.
00:32:00.480 Like I, I, it's one of my biggest fears with doing this show for the past seven years that
00:32:06.100 I'm misstepping somewhere and I'm, and I'm going to, I'm, I'm, I'm out of place, you know?
00:32:13.000 And so I just, I've had conversations with people off air that were guests, you know?
00:32:20.540 Like people assume that, Hey, the recording's over.
00:32:22.960 So it must've been done.
00:32:24.980 No, no.
00:32:25.960 Like, I mean, more so these days than not, because I, I am busy and I'm running around,
00:32:31.060 but like up until like the last year and a half, two years, I mean, I was notorious.
00:32:35.780 My wife was mad at me all the time because I, I have a three o'clock interview and we connected
00:32:41.180 three.
00:32:41.520 We don't start till four and I'm getting off at eight o'clock at night because I was
00:32:45.400 just talking and she's like, you're like, it's, it's part of being an extrovert, you
00:32:49.720 know?
00:32:50.080 But the, the, the, the podcast was only an hour.
00:32:52.900 Um, there, there's, there, there's, there's a, there was a lot of conversation, right?
00:32:57.580 And I, I just believe that those conversations deserve to be had in private where I could,
00:33:03.540 where I could really convey to the person so they understand that they're not sitting
00:33:06.340 there while I'm talking, thinking something else, like this guy's doing a show right
00:33:09.460 now, like, I want you to understand this is how I feel.
00:33:13.460 Let's talk about it.
00:33:14.300 You know, if it was there, I mean, sometimes the conversation is not there to be had and
00:33:17.700 that's fine with me too.
00:33:19.040 Um, but, uh, yeah, I, as far as the way I approach things and stuff, it's just, um, I am who I
00:33:25.740 am.
00:33:26.520 The conversation will be had when it's relevant, when it comes up, uh, over the years, it's
00:33:31.940 come up more and more because when you have the host as an outward spoken Christian, I'm
00:33:36.340 not, I'm not ashamed of that.
00:33:37.620 And I will talk about it.
00:33:39.220 Uh, there's other Christians in the world that have weird experiences that I've gone
00:33:42.940 through and they're feel comfortable talking to me.
00:33:45.400 And so when they come on to talk to me about their weird experiences, they bring the God
00:33:48.360 component in it.
00:33:48.900 Guess what?
00:33:49.300 We're going to talk about it.
00:33:50.340 And so it becomes a snowball effect and it happens.
00:33:52.700 Um, and so, I mean, uh, I, I was uncomfortable with this for many years, but, uh, as time's going
00:33:59.280 on and stuff, I definitely do look at my, my show as a type of ministry, which is kind of
00:34:03.920 crazy because I went to Bible college, dropped out and never thought I'd do ministry ever.
00:34:08.820 Um, but here I am.
00:34:10.860 And, uh, that's how I view it.
00:34:12.640 And I don't believe that the podcast is going to go anywhere unless God decides that it's
00:34:16.940 my time and it's time to go away.
00:34:18.520 And I'm fine with that.
00:34:19.860 I'm fine with that.
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00:38:21.900 That's the case for everything, right?
00:38:23.340 It's like whenever the times, but it reminds me of, uh, this guy that we were talking to.
00:38:28.340 And I don't know if he might talk to you.
00:38:30.020 I think, I don't know if you guys have anything set up, but, uh, Colin is a friend.
00:38:33.200 And I've been talking with him for a year.
00:38:36.360 I had just the top lobster show where I was doing it by myself at one point, like just
00:38:39.940 doing interviews with people in real life about like they had weird experiences, like
00:38:44.380 my aunt and stuff like that.
00:38:45.880 And, uh, he, he was messaging me back then.
00:38:48.360 He was like, listen, I have all this stuff going on and I want to talk about it, but I
00:38:52.260 can't talk about it.
00:38:53.480 And I never, I never pushed him.
00:38:54.980 I was like, listen, whenever you're ready, whenever you're ready to talk about this, let's
00:38:59.200 do it.
00:38:59.460 And he came, uh, maybe a month ago and he was like, now, now's the time.
00:39:04.740 And he came on the show and told us a story that, uh, it just, for me, I was like, well,
00:39:12.220 I knew the story, but like hearing it from him kind of like knocked me sideways because
00:39:16.660 there's so many parallels and pieces to your show and all of these little things that were
00:39:22.180 not, not, not even taken, but like his piece just fit in very nicely and kind of made me
00:39:28.260 think about like, uh, about the, the underground spiritual battle that's happening.
00:39:34.240 Right.
00:39:34.940 Where LA Marzulli might say, uh, they're assembling there, you know, they're taking people, they're
00:39:40.900 doing some kind of program, they're building an army.
00:39:43.400 And, uh, Colin had a similar experience where he's talking to an entity and the entity is
00:39:50.740 telling him to do good things, like actually like get his life together.
00:39:55.080 He came from a place where he was, you know, divorced down.
00:39:59.060 And all of a sudden he hears a voice in this, he's working in a job that he didn't want to
00:40:03.620 be at.
00:40:04.100 The voice just tells him, turn around, leave, never come back.
00:40:06.940 And he listens and he continues to listen and follow the directions of this entity of
00:40:13.340 what it's telling him, uh, to the point where he's having like experiences where he's, he's
00:40:19.980 describing them as physical.
00:40:21.180 I mean, David, you, you could probably recap some of these things better than I can.
00:40:25.500 Well, he initially he does, um, leave his job at the behest of this voice.
00:40:31.440 Uh, but over time he starts to use, uh, psilocybin mushrooms to get into contact.
00:40:39.220 And, and when I say contact, it would say, uh, okay, take these now go lay down and he'd
00:40:45.220 do it.
00:40:45.460 Yeah.
00:40:45.600 So he would go into the room, put an eye mask on and his girlfriend is going, what the
00:40:50.140 hell are you doing?
00:40:51.160 And he's, and she's not using mushrooms.
00:40:54.000 This is just something that he's doing at the behest of, you know, these voices.
00:40:57.400 He said, initially it would show itself like images and flashcards in his mind.
00:41:02.520 Um, but over extended mushroom use, these things came through as actual voices and pretty
00:41:09.380 reliably, he would communicate with something that he would describe as like a man with blue
00:41:14.740 skin.
00:41:16.020 Um, there was also an event where there was somewhat of a clinical setting and there was
00:41:22.980 two bald men with beards, uh, that looked like doctors who were, well, that, that one's
00:41:28.960 interesting because, uh, he would, so the entity would tell, would tell him, uh, all right,
00:41:33.680 take this, take the mushrooms, see me in the room.
00:41:36.180 Right.
00:41:37.200 Um, this time he hadn't taken mushrooms for a while and the entity kind of just tapped
00:41:41.840 him on the shoulder and said, Hey, take the mushrooms.
00:41:44.500 I'm meeting you in the room.
00:41:45.880 He did it.
00:41:46.780 He said, he just went on a mushroom trip.
00:41:48.840 Nothing happened.
00:41:49.420 And the next day he's sober, lays down.
00:41:53.520 And this experience in the clinical setting was almost like, he describes it like an abduction,
00:41:58.540 an abduction scene that happened.
00:42:00.360 And, you know, men, men in white coats are, they have them on a table or something.
00:42:04.140 And they're telling him like, you consented to this.
00:42:06.180 They're saying that they're upgrading him.
00:42:08.560 And, uh, that's like grading him for a war.
00:42:12.280 Yeah.
00:42:12.680 For, yeah.
00:42:13.440 For whatever he consented to, because the, the entity that he was talking to initially
00:42:17.460 seemed to be preparing him for a war.
00:42:20.180 Like, he's like, you have to get in physical shape.
00:42:21.800 You have to, you know, change your diet.
00:42:23.380 You've got to do this.
00:42:24.480 He, the entity actually sent him to church, which is bizarre to me.
00:42:28.380 Like, I don't know where to put that.
00:42:30.120 I know when people speak with entities, it's generally a negative experience or at least
00:42:36.160 will be a negative experience leading to one, right?
00:42:38.440 They're, they're setting up your disaster.
00:42:39.920 Why would you set this guy up to be in good physical shape?
00:42:44.320 Why would, why would you send him to church?
00:42:47.860 Why would you have his mind sharper, sharper than it was before?
00:42:50.560 And it, and his mind has gotten sharper.
00:42:52.120 Cause I, I mean, I have DMs with him throughout, throughout like a year where I could tell that
00:42:56.920 the guy was kind of like teetering and now he seems more coherent.
00:43:00.640 Like, like he actually understands what's going on.
00:43:03.560 I don't know where to put this stuff.
00:43:05.020 Yeah, because typically I've actually heard someone on your show, Tony mentioned Dr. Jerry
00:43:12.880 Marzinski, who I definitely think you should reach out to clinical psychologists in the
00:43:16.640 field for 35 years dealing with schizophrenia directly.
00:43:20.620 So in the institutions and then in the prisons, once they shut down the institutions and he
00:43:27.860 came to the conclusion that these are, these people, these that are experiencing these different
00:43:32.480 voices are being influenced by, uh, demonic entities.
00:43:36.160 And one of the things that he puts down to a pattern, a set of patterns, he said, there's
00:43:40.940 23 patterns that these things always follow.
00:43:42.920 One of them is that the overall mental and physical health of the person always declines
00:43:47.520 dramatically until the very end where they're barely a shell of themselves.
00:43:51.160 This is the only situation where I've heard where these things are telling him to run miles,
00:43:56.000 to go to church, to eat healthier, to lift weights, all these different things.
00:44:00.200 Very bizarre.
00:44:00.860 I mean, I would never advocate communing with any entities, um, but I have to say this so
00:44:06.360 far is best.
00:44:07.640 Yeah.
00:44:07.860 This so far though is best case scenario.
00:44:09.920 And then ultimately this all leads to an experience where he ends up in what he describes as a gold
00:44:18.260 and marble room.
00:44:20.800 And with like a clock, like there's, he said in the sky, there's like a clock spinning with
00:44:25.720 gears, like a golden clock.
00:44:27.320 I don't, I don't know what any of this is.
00:44:30.160 And he communes with what he feels like is God.
00:44:33.700 He doesn't look at God.
00:44:35.580 He doesn't see God, but he feels the presence of God.
00:44:38.940 And then is told that they're going to have a conversation that he's not going to remember.
00:44:44.580 And then the last thing he remembers is walking with God, not able to look at him, but being
00:44:50.660 in the presence of him and walking with him.
00:44:53.280 And so, you know, now, um, I believe he still has experiences, nothing as large of a scale
00:45:03.420 as that, but the voices will come through now without mushroom use.
00:45:07.960 So, so in other words, he's not even using the mushrooms anymore.
00:45:10.180 He's not doing any drugs.
00:45:11.660 So there's no drugs involved.
00:45:13.360 There's healthy eating.
00:45:14.860 There's exercise.
00:45:16.440 There's going to church and pursuing a relationship with God at the behest of, I don't know,
00:45:23.960 several entities.
00:45:24.680 The thing, the thing called itself, I, cause I did ask him and he said one time it called
00:45:28.740 itself Anu.
00:45:29.600 And I was like, that's not good because that's like the God of death in Egyptian lore.
00:45:34.260 Right.
00:45:35.280 And he was like, oh, I don't know.
00:45:37.000 I was like, you need to do some research, dude.
00:45:39.620 You're just talking to this stuff all willy nilly.
00:45:41.260 Oh, yeah, that's, uh, yeah.
00:45:48.080 If, if, if any, just PSA, I guess, um, if entities are talking to you,
00:45:54.500 look them up, look them up.
00:45:57.200 Don't take their word for it.
00:45:58.500 Look them up.
00:45:59.540 Um, and, and also don't trust everything you hear in your head, you know?
00:46:04.800 So, uh, it's, it's one of those things where it's interesting, right?
00:46:08.560 So it sounds like what you guys are saying is that, uh, there's, there's a, it's like
00:46:13.600 a double-sided coin with this guy.
00:46:14.900 It's like some of it, you're like, oh, it's just, does sound pretty.
00:46:17.900 And then those things you're just like, I don't know about that.
00:46:21.440 Um, well, I didn't have, if I didn't have a good base.
00:46:24.680 I would say, oh, this sounds great.
00:46:26.740 But because I do understand that, you know, go ahead, Tony.
00:46:31.980 I'll tell you what I think after.
00:46:33.380 Yeah.
00:46:33.600 It's, I mean, I don't nearly know what to think per se.
00:46:38.320 Um, I'd be interested in talking to the guy.
00:46:41.100 Um, if I don't, I don't, did you say he reached out to me or.
00:46:45.580 I think you guys are already set up.
00:46:46.860 Yeah.
00:46:47.080 So we spoiled it for you.
00:46:48.480 No, it's fine.
00:46:49.520 I'll forget.
00:46:50.000 Don't worry.
00:46:50.780 Um, so, uh, I forget what I was going to say, but no, I, I think that people need to just
00:46:58.660 be careful with who they're talking to.
00:47:02.320 And, you know, it says the guy who prays to God, you can't even see him.
00:47:06.080 I know.
00:47:06.840 Um, but, uh, there's a lot of this new age movement stuff happening and going on right
00:47:12.840 now.
00:47:13.120 So, and, uh, I was introduced to the new age through my show.
00:47:17.080 I didn't know what the new age was until I started talking to people who were talking
00:47:20.580 about the new age.
00:47:21.700 And when I first remember, I remember when I first started hearing about it and they're
00:47:24.880 talking about Jesus and I was like, Oh, this is actually Jesus fluffy bunnies.
00:47:29.080 I love this.
00:47:30.040 This is nice.
00:47:31.280 And then I started learning more about it.
00:47:33.260 And I started talking to people who came out of the new age and the process of coming
00:47:37.120 out of new age, uh, can be a very violent one, a very scary one, traumatizing one.
00:47:42.400 Um, and so with that in mind, when I hear entities talking to people, uh, and it's a
00:47:51.940 double-sided coin, it's like some of it's pretty decent and some of it's kind of questionable.
00:47:56.880 If anything's kind of questionable, it's probably not from God.
00:48:00.400 And so, um, there's a, there's real manipulation tactics and just because it feels good to you
00:48:05.780 doesn't mean it is good.
00:48:07.080 Um, and that's just a lie of the culture of the day.
00:48:09.620 You know, like, like we live in a society where what feels good to you, what's true to
00:48:14.040 you.
00:48:14.260 It doesn't matter who nobody, like, like, like it shouldn't matter to you.
00:48:17.640 What feels good to you.
00:48:19.300 It's what is right.
00:48:20.480 What is wrong?
00:48:21.460 What is truth?
00:48:22.940 Not what is true to you.
00:48:24.400 What is actual truth?
00:48:26.020 And, um, I think that's why we have a lot of people running around confused these days
00:48:30.480 is because we lit, we, we were raised in a, in a culture that is just been, you know, just
00:48:36.860 do what feels good to you.
00:48:37.880 No, that's how, that's how this, all, all this stuff starts.
00:48:41.240 And it's a perfect, we live in a perfect time to have this kind of stuff permeate throughout
00:48:45.280 culture.
00:48:46.240 Uh, people are going to absolutely be communicating with these entities.
00:48:51.000 And, um, because they're already preconditioned to do what feels good.
00:48:55.000 It's such a layup.
00:48:55.960 It's such a layup just start like, like these, these entities have been around you since
00:49:01.160 day one and you're not the first human they've interacted with.
00:49:04.900 And they've been around you since day one.
00:49:06.840 They know what makes you tick.
00:49:08.320 They know what makes you feel good.
00:49:09.520 And they know exactly how to get you to do what they want you to do.
00:49:12.680 They're going to get you doing things that make you feel good.
00:49:14.980 And, and they may not always be anti-God.
00:49:19.080 It may not always be against God's will, but they're going to get you just by that simple
00:49:25.160 formula, which has been just teed up with our culture of just do what makes you feel
00:49:30.600 good.
00:49:31.840 So, um, yeah, I don't know.
00:49:34.220 Tony, can I interject for a second?
00:49:35.720 I want to, uh, shout out to Adriano bear in the chat, uh, or I'm sorry, optimistic bear.
00:49:40.660 Adriano says, uh, my mom is caught up in that Christ consciousness, mother, father, God stuff.
00:49:46.380 And it reminds me immediately.
00:49:48.360 I don't know if any of you guys have seen it.
00:49:49.920 Don't worry.
00:49:50.460 It's not a spoiler because you're going to waste your time if you do watch it.
00:49:52.880 But there is a sort of a cult show on not a cult, a cult show on Netflix.
00:50:00.380 Um, and the story goes something about this woman who believes that she is, uh, mother
00:50:06.880 God.
00:50:07.740 And based off of this premise, she starts to, uh, do all these charismatic videos
00:50:13.320 online, a massive following.
00:50:15.160 She does a bunch of stuff with crystals.
00:50:16.920 She's drinking colloidal silver.
00:50:18.300 And next thing, you know, uh, all of these new age folks from all over the country start
00:50:24.100 to travel from afar and gather around her.
00:50:27.100 And then they start to live stream their everyday happenings.
00:50:30.180 And it's pretty uneventful, but because the new age is so appealing.
00:50:33.440 And I think what's appealing about it is the new age is structured in such a way to sell
00:50:37.360 you the same lie that the serpent sold, uh, Adam and Eve in the garden or even the garden.
00:50:41.560 And, uh, and that lie is you can be as God, you can ascend, you can unlock powers, you can
00:50:46.560 be more than what you are, um, through these new age, you know, techniques.
00:50:50.940 And so these people who are attracted to this idea, they come from afar, they gather around
00:50:56.500 her.
00:50:57.400 And it turns out that she needs an incredible amount of alcohol to deal with the inundation
00:51:07.120 of spirits that she's getting now to the viewer, you go, this is a crazy person, but to a crazy
00:51:14.100 person like myself, I go spirits to contact spirits.
00:51:18.460 She's literally, yeah, she's literally in communication with spirits.
00:51:21.620 I do not doubt this at all, but much like the Marzinski angle, um, she is just, uh, falling
00:51:30.140 apart over time.
00:51:31.640 She's turning blue because she's drinking colloidal silver, like at scale in mass, like
00:51:37.580 so much colloidal silver and her body is like decomposing in real time because she's dying
00:51:44.140 of alcohol related disease, you know, liver failure and things like that.
00:51:47.540 And these people, it's amazing.
00:51:49.760 The, the loop they get stuck in, they see her dying and they go, it's because her physical
00:51:55.620 form cannot take the grand spirit that is within her, you know, mother, God's spirit.
00:52:02.680 That's what they're saying is so immense that the expiring of the physical form is increased
00:52:09.700 exponentially, uh, to anybody who is her avatar.
00:52:12.940 And so you're watching these people in the, in the real time.
00:52:15.900 But I think that is at the core of the new age movement is taking people who, and I don't
00:52:22.400 know what to say about her.
00:52:23.260 Um, uh, she might've been, you know, sometimes these spirits, they do attack people who might
00:52:30.880 be seeking a relationship with God.
00:52:33.060 Um, you know, I, I believe that the enemy doesn't attack people who are like not paying
00:52:39.380 attention because you don't have to there.
00:52:41.340 There, it doesn't even matter, but people who are engaged in spiritual warfare, but who
00:52:46.280 are standing on the field, they recognize that they're in it, but they don't know where
00:52:49.960 to go that is appealing to them.
00:52:52.820 And, and so, you know, she could have started off with the best of intentions, but ultimately
00:52:56.920 she's sold this false bill of goods that all people in the new age movement are being sold,
00:53:02.700 which is this idea of spiritual ascension that you can be as God.
00:53:10.180 You can be like gods, like demigods, like, you know, whatever the idea, uh, is that they're
00:53:15.460 selling these people, you just need to, uh, go through these practices, these occulted
00:53:21.160 practices and unlock various aspects.
00:53:23.860 And, and ultimately that is something that I've seen because after that conversation with
00:53:27.560 Colin, we did receive several other stories from other people.
00:53:30.820 And there is always this common thread of, well, these entities want to unlock something
00:53:36.700 in me to upgrade me, to allow me to, you know, access powers that are, uh, subdued and, you
00:53:46.400 know, it's like, well, what's going on?
00:53:47.800 Do you have powers that need to be unlocked or are you being augmented by deceptive spirits?
00:53:54.040 Yeah, I, I, uh, err on the side of caution and I stay away from that stuff.
00:54:00.700 You know, uh, that's just how it is.
00:54:02.860 Um, first of all, I didn't realize we were alive till just now when you said the comments
00:54:07.080 like, wait, comments.
00:54:07.820 And I clicked, I was like, Oh, there's, and I, as soon as I saw the comments, it's like,
00:54:10.840 get away from it.
00:54:11.500 I don't want to read the comments.
00:54:12.980 It's going to distract me.
00:54:14.240 It'll distract me.
00:54:15.240 So I, I, I apologize to people who may be commenting and expect me to read a comment.
00:54:19.320 I, I, I can't read it or else I, Tony, Tony, if we treat our audience completely
00:54:23.500 different than you, I could, I don't respect any of those people.
00:54:25.780 Don't look at them.
00:54:26.380 Don't answer them.
00:54:27.220 They don't deserve it.
00:54:28.460 Talk to us.
00:54:29.440 Okay.
00:54:29.680 I got you.
00:54:30.680 I got you.
00:54:31.740 Um, yeah, I mean, I get sidetracked enough.
00:54:34.100 I don't need to have the, the scroll of commenting.
00:54:36.900 What I wanted to say about, uh, both of your points there was that it, again, like I, I came
00:54:41.680 up in this like weird political realm where it was called a post-modernism, right?
00:54:45.800 Where they would argue politically to no ends, uh, that there is no right or wrong and
00:54:52.340 things are, you know, things are just gray areas, constant gray areas.
00:54:55.880 And the more you look into that, the more you realize like, no, no, no, no, it's pretty
00:54:58.600 black and white.
00:54:59.900 And it, whether it be spiritually, uh, religiously in your personal life, I feel like I personally
00:55:06.680 have been, I'm like, I'm just going to take a hard stance on something and, and stay that
00:55:10.960 that's what I'm doing.
00:55:12.020 Because if you're wishy-washy, you're going to go nowhere.
00:55:14.840 So it's like, it's, this is either right or wrong.
00:55:17.060 And that's how, you know, the current day church ends up with, with the, you know, pastors
00:55:20.740 in rainbow robes and God and, and, you know, Jewish tunnels, who knows what's going on.
00:55:26.140 At some point, somebody, somebody compromised.
00:55:29.340 And then you get down this hill of like, well, you, you can't even look back now.
00:55:33.060 Where, where did I start?
00:55:34.980 That's, that's the world today.
00:55:36.560 I, you know, listen, I mean, nobody wants to be wrong, right?
00:55:42.060 But if you believe you're right, then that, that, I mean, listen, I've just gotten grumpier
00:55:50.120 as I've gotten older and I've just got to the point where I just don't care anymore.
00:55:54.900 I'm going to say what I believe and what I think.
00:55:59.340 And if, if I'm just going to be that grumpy old man in the room, you could say you're the
00:56:05.420 most eloquent argument to me as to why I'm wrong.
00:56:07.760 And you're right.
00:56:08.380 If it's just doesn't line up with what I believe and just be like, no, I don't believe you.
00:56:12.620 And I don't agree with that.
00:56:13.560 You're wrong.
00:56:14.300 But I just, no, I don't care.
00:56:16.520 I don't care.
00:56:17.280 And I just got to that point now because, um, I'm not the best, uh, person that's, I'm
00:56:22.960 not good at debating.
00:56:24.060 I, I, I'm not, I just know I have lived experiences that tell me, um, the, the, that, that define
00:56:32.540 how I believe.
00:56:33.780 Um, and so I, I just kind of, I don't know, guys, I, I, we live in, we just live in a really
00:56:40.700 weird world and it just kind of gets to the point where you have to have a backbone and
00:56:45.080 you just have to, to stand up and for what's right and wrong and, and just call a spade a
00:56:50.260 spade and, and not worry about who's going to like it and who doesn't like it.
00:56:54.240 You know, I, I just, um, I crossed this bridge, uh, about a year and a half, two years ago,
00:56:59.500 I'd say I just got to the point where I consciously made a decision.
00:57:03.060 I was just like, you know what, if me talking about God sinks this ship, then I'll just going
00:57:08.820 to be poor.
00:57:09.600 I don't care.
00:57:10.820 And that's just how I feel.
00:57:11.980 And I say it a lot because that's how I, that's literally how I feel.
00:57:15.540 And I want everybody to know how I feel about it.
00:57:17.780 Like I, like, like if you think you saying to me, I'm never listening to your show again,
00:57:22.840 because you talk about God too much, that that's a threat to me.
00:57:26.060 It's not a threat to me.
00:57:27.080 What you're doing is you're telling me, if you get enough people on your side, I get
00:57:30.720 to go live peacefully with my family and not have to deal with the public ever again.
00:57:34.100 That sounds really nice at times.
00:57:36.160 That sounds real nice at times.
00:57:37.780 Did COVID do this to you?
00:57:39.080 Cause that, the same thing happened at the same time to me where I've decided no.
00:57:44.140 And now I could even justify it verbally better, but like the idea of, uh, getting these upgrades
00:57:49.380 or letting the vampire in, it's all about consent, right?
00:57:52.500 So when, when someone does want to argue or debate me, they're like, debate me.
00:57:56.180 And I say, debate is faking gay.
00:57:57.700 No.
00:57:58.500 And then I send them away or I block them or I just tell them straight up.
00:58:02.060 No, like, and, but I'm, I'm not nice about it.
00:58:04.000 Like Tony probably does it so much nicer than I do quite mean, but go, go away.
00:58:08.940 I think what I think you're wrong.
00:58:11.480 So here's the thing.
00:58:12.440 So I don't know if we were live or if we were doing this off air, but I said how, you
00:58:17.660 know, I came up in podcasting in a different era.
00:58:21.080 So when I came up in podcasting, when I started out and stuff, you, you had to be conscious
00:58:27.460 of what you're saying, because there's a very limited people who were actually even listening
00:58:33.020 to podcasts to begin with.
00:58:34.640 And, um, you, you had to just kind of draw the lines as to where you wanted to cross and
00:58:39.400 not cross.
00:58:39.900 Right.
00:58:41.120 And in this, and I, and I kind of dug myself in a hole in a sense because, uh, people,
00:58:48.680 what you just said, they will sometimes think that and think that they can say whatever they
00:58:56.640 want to me in the sense that almost like I'm a pushover.
00:59:00.480 I'm one of the nastiest people you'll ever meet.
00:59:02.740 I am one of the nastiest people you will ever meet.
00:59:07.240 I just have a lot of self-discipline and anybody who wants to check that can just ask my wife,
00:59:15.920 my parents, my siblings, people who know me like nobody, nobody will dare to say the things
00:59:24.480 to me in my face that people say to me online.
00:59:27.940 They think they can say certain things.
00:59:30.200 I'm telling you, I'm not a nice person.
00:59:33.880 So, uh, I, I just, um, when it comes to this stuff, um, I don't know.
00:59:43.740 I just, I go, I go about it a different way.
00:59:45.700 I don't know if it was COVID that did it for me.
00:59:49.280 Um, I think COVID certainly did do something to me.
00:59:53.080 I think the COVID thing combined with being dad is what did it for me.
00:59:57.340 Um, I don't, I don't know if I would be, uh, as staunch on certain things as far as like,
01:00:07.100 I don't care what you kind of say kind of thing.
01:00:09.360 If it wasn't for the fact that I have the kids now, uh, I'm very aware that one day I'm going
01:00:14.880 to die and I'm still going to be here at the same time.
01:00:17.380 Um, and I do not want to die one day and not, and, and, and have left something on the table
01:00:26.380 that I could have done to better, possibly better my kid's future, you know?
01:00:31.880 And so when COVID happened, I think that really became a magnified thing in my life.
01:00:39.100 And, um, I, I just, I think I remember sitting at the house and, um, COVID was happening.
01:00:48.540 And I, I, it was December of 2019.
01:00:52.300 I saw things happening in China and I was still, I was going to work and I was telling
01:00:58.120 the guys, I was like, Hey, there's something happening.
01:00:59.700 And I think we should, you know, be aware of what's going on.
01:01:03.040 And they're like, Oh, you're a crazy conspiracy guy.
01:01:05.380 And, um, and then everything happened the next year in the beginning of the year and work,
01:01:11.940 I was driving tractor trailer.
01:01:13.260 It slowed down to nothing.
01:01:14.540 Uh, there's nothing to deliver.
01:01:16.460 Nobody was shipping anything.
01:01:17.700 And so I was making, I was driving tractor trailer in New York city too.
01:01:22.340 Really?
01:01:22.900 And yeah, for the MTA though.
01:01:24.380 So I was, uh, what did I forget what they called me?
01:01:26.500 Like special work person or whatever.
01:01:27.800 I was allowed to work while everyone else at home, I got from Brooklyn to the city in 25
01:01:32.800 minutes, the tractor trailer full of, full of rails.
01:01:35.760 That takes an hour and a half.
01:01:37.180 It was wonderful, but yeah, it was bizarre.
01:01:38.760 It was like, I am legend stuff driving through.
01:01:41.760 Oh yeah.
01:01:42.760 Yeah.
01:01:43.180 Weird.
01:01:44.000 Very.
01:01:44.920 I, I, it was when everything shut down, I remember driving because I took a layoff,
01:01:51.000 uh, because I was, I was podcasting, making money doing that.
01:01:53.680 So I figured some of these guys don't have a side gig.
01:01:56.580 A lot of them don't.
01:01:57.160 So let them work, you know, and drive around empty trailers.
01:02:00.860 Um, but, uh, when I was coming out of Philly and stuff, the same thing, like going back to
01:02:06.200 my terminal, I mean record times and it's just, everything was dead.
01:02:09.780 Very eerie.
01:02:11.240 Uh, I remember sitting at home in my layoff though.
01:02:14.000 Um, and I don't remember who she was, but I think she was out of Chicago and she was
01:02:19.760 like, uh, when somebody dies in a car accident and they had COVID in their system, it counts
01:02:28.960 as a COVID death.
01:02:29.860 When that happened, it wasn't me being like, Oh my gosh, I can't believe I knew I knew this
01:02:37.080 was happening, but it was them for the first time I was able to look at and be like, Oh,
01:02:42.260 you're actually saying it out loud now.
01:02:44.760 And that's when I was like, okay, all gloves are off.
01:02:50.220 Like I, like if you're outright doing this and you're saying it out loud, I no longer have
01:02:56.520 to sit here and wonder if I'm just reading it wrong or if I'm the crazy one, you're saying
01:03:01.000 it out loud now.
01:03:01.780 And now there are going to be guys like me who do have the balls to just push back.
01:03:09.320 Yeah.
01:03:09.680 Like I don't, I don't care.
01:03:11.080 Like I don't care.
01:03:12.080 Like I, I tell my wife probably once a month, one day I'm going to be in jail.
01:03:16.420 They're going to put me in jail one day.
01:03:18.060 It's just going to happen.
01:03:18.960 It's, it's, it's getting to that point.
01:03:20.260 Now it's going to get to the point where whether it's something I've said in the past
01:03:24.700 or I checked the wrong box on something and they're going to put me in jail for it.
01:03:29.120 And I'm okay with it, but I'm not okay.
01:03:31.380 I'm not, I'm not okay with, with staying outside of jail because I'm a coward and have
01:03:35.300 to look at my son in the eyes, trying to raise him as a man in this world, knowing that his
01:03:39.780 dad's a coward.
01:03:40.860 Tony, those people are going to be the first ones put up against the wall.
01:03:43.680 The ones that knew better, but follow the narrative.
01:03:46.160 If you look historically at like a communist China, when they use the red shirts, I mean, they
01:03:51.040 use the, they use the brown shirts to kind of like, uh, funnel the people that were dissidents.
01:03:55.740 They were telling on them, right?
01:03:57.260 The first ones, when it came to like, we're going to call half the population, they took
01:04:00.660 those idiots and then they got the extremists, but it was a little harder to get the extremists
01:04:05.260 because we already kind of knew what you were doing.
01:04:07.180 So we're like, you know, I bought 10 acres in Florida.
01:04:09.480 I, I boogied out of New York after they told me we might put you in, uh, camps if there was
01:04:15.040 some kind of law floated.
01:04:16.080 And I was like, yeah, no, put my, put my house for sale.
01:04:18.120 My wife was like, what the hell did you do?
01:04:19.360 I said, yeah, no, I, it's on Zillow.
01:04:22.120 And when somebody buys it, we're out.
01:04:24.240 And she was like, that's crazy.
01:04:25.140 I was like, sit down for a second.
01:04:26.780 Let me, let me show you some news articles, what they're saying out in the open.
01:04:31.160 Right.
01:04:32.020 And politically that drove me crazy.
01:04:33.640 Cause I'm like, oh my God, there has to be a solution.
01:04:35.540 Maybe the libertarian party, maybe the Republican is, it's like, nah, no, dude, it's all Nephilim
01:04:39.860 shit, man.
01:04:40.720 Yeah.
01:04:41.080 Because something is coming.
01:04:42.420 That's what we've hit the part of the story where this is what's going to happen.
01:04:45.640 And there's no stopping it.
01:04:46.600 I had the exact same experience and I was, I was completely blessed that my wife, when
01:04:51.980 she met me knew I was out of my mind, but couldn't necessarily like debate me.
01:04:57.680 You know, she was like, well, I don't know.
01:04:58.940 Dude's got some good points.
01:04:59.980 And that was, you know, 16 years ago.
01:05:02.420 And so when this started happening, I was like, no, don't, we're not taking any shots.
01:05:06.760 No, no, no.
01:05:07.380 We're not doing any of that.
01:05:08.500 And then ultimately when things got real crazy, it was like, yeah, let's go, let's leave
01:05:12.920 New Jersey because New Jersey is going to, unfortunately, New Jersey and New York, they're going to
01:05:17.040 be some of the first places that get hit the hardest when it comes to these things.
01:05:20.000 And also you don't want to be in a, in a crowded, uh, cityscape when, when shit really
01:05:24.900 hits the fan.
01:05:25.480 But, you know, I, I, I agree with that comment, right?
01:05:28.860 It was a paradigm shift.
01:05:30.400 And I think that was like, we were talking with Mark Claire the other day about, uh, portals,
01:05:34.560 but not necessarily the portals that you're talking about, but I just called it a portal
01:05:38.080 because it's like, it's like a lateral portal, right?
01:05:40.240 So I'm here, a political.
01:05:41.980 And then the next thing I'm like, let me look into this debate with Donald Trump and Hillary
01:05:46.260 Clinton.
01:05:46.600 That must be great.
01:05:47.120 And then all of a sudden you're kind of like stepping through these portals laterally.
01:05:50.320 COVID was a big one.
01:05:51.780 That one, a lot of people stepped through.
01:05:53.520 You can't step back from that.
01:05:55.460 Once you open your eyes and then there's so many more all the way to.
01:05:58.880 Oh, it's insane that some people never stepped through.
01:06:01.400 They're still there.
01:06:02.360 They're still wearing their masks.
01:06:03.780 I mean, I, I, I see it.
01:06:05.560 I saw it in Florida yesterday in Walmart and I'm going, what, what's going on?
01:06:10.020 I thought something was happening again.
01:06:11.560 I was like, am I just not paying attention to the times?
01:06:13.920 Like, why are there people in Walmart with mess?
01:06:16.060 There's a lady that I know on Facebook.
01:06:18.020 I'm not going to say her name, but she's boosted up to the max, had like three, uh, miscarriages.
01:06:25.360 Doesn't know why.
01:06:26.580 And I'm just like, scroll my feed.
01:06:28.420 I stopped.
01:06:29.020 I even stopped posting to Facebook.
01:06:30.400 I was like, you guys don't deserve this.
01:06:31.520 This is Pearl to like swine to Pearl, Pearl to swines.
01:06:34.200 Why would I even talk to you?
01:06:35.240 I told you, you didn't listen.
01:06:37.020 I'm out.
01:06:37.900 We're done.
01:06:38.400 Now I have to focus on like, how do I keep my family going when things get really stupid?
01:06:44.780 Yeah.
01:06:45.100 And you know, I'm trying my best, but.
01:06:46.960 And that's the thing.
01:06:48.700 Like we're in new territory that our, our families, our parents, our grandparents, as far as I
01:06:56.000 can think, haven't had a cross.
01:06:57.160 Like a government that's outright in America, outright against you.
01:07:00.520 And how do you react to that?
01:07:02.940 You know, we all reacted the same way.
01:07:04.820 We all got out and ran.
01:07:06.120 I did the same thing.
01:07:07.180 I mean, I'm the guest here, so I don't know if your audience knows.
01:07:09.660 I lived in Philadelphia and I said to all my family, I said, this is going to get to a
01:07:14.300 point where we're leaving.
01:07:16.280 And then it got to that point where actually it got to the point where everybody was like,
01:07:19.300 oh, things are opening up again.
01:07:20.520 This is nice.
01:07:21.100 I'm like, that's a bad sign.
01:07:22.840 Actually, we're out.
01:07:26.020 And we, I put the house up for sale and literally it was Christmas day, the evening of Christmas
01:07:33.180 day, everybody went home and I looked at my wife.
01:07:36.820 I said, you ready to move to Tennessee?
01:07:37.960 She said, yep.
01:07:39.140 And by April, we were in Tennessee and that's gangster.
01:07:42.500 We live in East Tennessee and I don't have 10 acres, but I'm aspiring to have 10 acres
01:07:47.560 one day.
01:07:48.960 And I have a farm, a little tiny farm and pigs and chickens and things like that.
01:07:53.780 But I'm doing what I can to, and I don't think anybody's ever totally prepared for that,
01:07:59.640 the end of the world situation.
01:08:02.720 But we're trying and we're making friends and networking and, you know, hopefully God willing
01:08:09.200 tomorrow, I'll have time to get to a guy's house over here who he's processing sheeps.
01:08:13.400 I'm going to learn how to process sheeps.
01:08:15.380 And then in March, I'm processing my pigs.
01:08:18.460 I'm going to learn how to process pigs.
01:08:20.100 I want to learn how to do this stuff and take care of myself and my family.
01:08:23.140 The key is you got to start with the anus.
01:08:25.560 You'll learn.
01:08:26.100 You know, I think that this is a perfect segue into sort of the meat of what I want to talk
01:08:36.220 about.
01:08:36.360 I don't know how much longer we have you, Tony, so feel free to tell us to kick rocks.
01:08:41.140 But, you know, we're talking about preparedness.
01:08:43.800 We're talking about making these shifts to do what we need to for our families.
01:08:48.500 And, you know, you alluded there that you don't know if anybody's ever really prepared.
01:08:54.660 But if you're of the same mind as us, you're looking at something that you need to be prepared
01:09:01.440 for that's like several steps down the road.
01:09:03.380 You know, whether it's societal collapse or whatever, that's one thing.
01:09:06.760 But I mean, fans of the show know how strange we get.
01:09:11.460 I mean, literally, it's Nephilim Death Squad.
01:09:13.480 And we're of the contention that at some point, these things are going to become a reality.
01:09:17.880 Now, we were sort of...
01:09:20.200 Yes.
01:09:20.600 And we were sort of faced with that for this brief moment with the Miami situation.
01:09:24.160 Although, I'm not too sure exactly what that is.
01:09:26.800 I think the most significant thing to come out of the Miami situation...
01:09:29.540 I've got some information about that that I'm sure Tony hasn't heard because we only
01:09:33.620 said it here.
01:09:34.480 My cousin works in South Florida.
01:09:35.880 He knows people that do work in that area.
01:09:38.840 He's a firefighter.
01:09:40.220 And one of the things that you notice right away...
01:09:42.420 I was in fire protection and management.
01:09:44.120 So, I noticed like I walk into a room, I'm looking for all the exits and I notice all the
01:09:47.440 codes because I'm an idiot.
01:09:48.200 But as you know, when you're in professions like this, you notice weird things.
01:09:52.500 And he says, huh, 100 cop cars, not one emergency ambulance, not one firefighter.
01:09:59.120 These things show up in tandem every single time.
01:10:01.900 If there's an incident, somebody probably got hurt.
01:10:04.080 They might need fire every single time.
01:10:06.520 When you look at the video, that's not the case.
01:10:09.080 So, I said, well, what do you make of that?
01:10:10.960 And he's like, you know, to me, he said it looked like a...
01:10:13.620 What did he say?
01:10:14.560 He said it looked like an operation.
01:10:16.960 And it kind of did.
01:10:17.760 It looked like a closed, like whatever's going on there.
01:10:20.160 That's why we don't have video.
01:10:21.440 That's why, you know, not...
01:10:22.800 I mean, you have on the ground testimony, but most of the video is from people that are
01:10:26.080 living in the apartments.
01:10:27.920 Yeah.
01:10:28.560 Nobody knows.
01:10:29.360 So, this was shut off.
01:10:30.920 What happened there?
01:10:32.280 I'm not saying it's not like, you know, actual entities or whatever, but something happened.
01:10:37.340 They shut it off.
01:10:38.360 Something happened in that mall.
01:10:40.360 Maybe it was a portal that opened up.
01:10:41.800 Maybe they knew, like they can tell, like there's some kind of frequencies or vibrations
01:10:45.180 are like, yo, shut it down, get here.
01:10:46.980 And close down the system because we don't know what's coming through.
01:10:51.200 Something happened there.
01:10:52.480 But yeah, our government knew about it.
01:10:55.940 And our government does know about this stuff.
01:10:57.700 That's another like mass drop where they're like, Chuck Schumer is just like, should we
01:11:00.880 tell them about the aliens yet?
01:11:02.480 It was like, what?
01:11:04.160 Bro.
01:11:04.440 Talking about taxes?
01:11:05.960 All of a sudden, they're doing the Cone of Hearts.
01:11:07.300 No, no, no.
01:11:08.320 Don't talk about that.
01:11:09.540 And what did we just have?
01:11:10.380 Tucker Carlson and Roseanne are on TV talking about the Nephilim.
01:11:14.620 You know, then Tucker's on stage at whatever that event is.
01:11:17.440 And he's talking about the dark spiritual aspect of these alien entities.
01:11:21.800 And it's like, we're moving towards, you want to talk about a paradigm shift, right?
01:11:24.740 And the way of COVID was one.
01:11:26.340 Get ready to have the shit jarred out of you.
01:11:28.980 We're going through another portal, guys.
01:11:30.440 And it's going to shake up a lot of people.
01:11:33.040 You know, and a lot of us will be sitting on the sidelines going, I told you so.
01:11:35.640 And I don't know what good that's really going to do.
01:11:37.640 But this all leads to something, in my opinion, very physical.
01:11:42.860 And Tony, I know you've had interactions with guests who share their testimonies on your
01:11:47.220 show who very much align with the story that we told earlier about Colin.
01:11:50.980 And like I said, we've got a few more stories like that.
01:11:53.760 And all these things kind of line up, right?
01:11:55.400 It seems like someone, or maybe not just one entity, but within the spiritual realm,
01:12:01.160 there is a recruitment process happening.
01:12:03.320 Oh, yeah.
01:12:03.480 And this recruitment process is for an impending war.
01:12:06.520 And there are two definitive sides.
01:12:09.340 But it does seem like, from what we've learned, that there might be some dissenting sides within
01:12:13.740 the darker aspect of things.
01:12:15.860 We actually had it explained to us in a really interesting way.
01:12:18.180 Of course, yeah, it's chaos.
01:12:19.040 33% of the angels followed Lucifer from heaven in this rebellion.
01:12:24.180 And then they get down, and God's like, can you come back?
01:12:27.260 How about, like, to think that these angels don't have, like, a brain of their own, or
01:12:30.880 these fallen, to be like, this guy lied to us.
01:12:33.240 Screw this guy.
01:12:33.780 I'm doing my own thing.
01:12:34.900 Maybe some try to get back, like, as the book says, try to get back in the good graces.
01:12:38.380 But it's not one side.
01:12:40.720 Like, Scott Horton, I always reference him.
01:12:42.420 The great Scott Horton, he wrote a book on the war in Afghanistan.
01:12:45.800 It's a 20-year war.
01:12:46.640 That's it, 20 years on our side, and 50 if you go back to the Russians.
01:12:50.800 And the players in this war, and the motives, and everything going on, it's endless.
01:12:56.020 He's up to the third compendium of this book now, where I'm just like, I don't even care
01:12:59.260 anymore, because it's like, who can keep track?
01:13:01.540 This spiritual war has been going on since before, and probably before Adam.
01:13:06.900 I'm not sure where to put where they fell.
01:13:09.140 Did they fall before Adam?
01:13:10.740 Were there people before?
01:13:12.240 You think so?
01:13:13.300 Yeah, I think they fell before Adam.
01:13:14.680 And I don't know if there was people before, but there might have been another, I don't
01:13:22.620 know.
01:13:24.120 That's Joel Thomas territory for me.
01:13:27.100 I'll call my buddy Joel, and I'll be like, yo, bro, break this down for me, because my
01:13:31.540 brain hurts.
01:13:32.060 Um, but no, I mean, yeah, I, I, uh, I think that there's definitely, there was a fall before
01:13:40.660 Adam, I believe.
01:13:42.180 Um, and yeah, I think that these, they're rebellious in nature.
01:13:48.140 Why would they ever, like, why would they, like, yeah, it's like, it's like, it's like
01:13:54.700 you take, um, you take, uh, all right, let's take, uh, I don't know why I'm thinking like
01:14:02.700 thinking about this like this, and I don't know if this is gonna make sense, but you go
01:14:06.680 to like all the federal prisons and you take the number one Hooper in every federal prison
01:14:14.020 and you put them on the same team and you tell me they're all going to submit to one
01:14:18.620 guy as the best player on the team.
01:14:20.500 Dude, it's libertarianism.
01:14:22.280 You take, so libertarians are by default, don't trust the government, right?
01:14:27.020 Then you take a hundred thousand of them.
01:14:28.720 I've been to these meetings, all of them autistic, hilarious, but they all are so individualistic
01:14:33.960 that they cannot agree and move in a direction.
01:14:36.780 So you can't meaningfully even oppose like the left or the right, which they're trying to
01:14:41.380 do.
01:14:41.580 It's hilarious, but that's yeah.
01:14:42.920 And in a sense, it's kind of what these fallen are, right?
01:14:44.960 They're like, they're so individualistic.
01:14:47.740 They're probably, yeah, they're like literal pirates.
01:14:49.260 This, this spiritual battle, like that's why the thing with Colin and the thing with the
01:14:53.540 guy that you mentioned, they're being recruited by ball, by Anu, by different entities, all
01:14:59.000 moving in a different direction.
01:15:01.180 And like, what does this look like when it manifests itself physically?
01:15:05.340 Cause there's going to be a final battle, right?
01:15:07.760 Yeah.
01:15:08.420 I, I, I don't know what it's going to look like.
01:15:11.420 I don't think any of us know what it's going to look like.
01:15:13.940 Uh, but yeah, I mean the, these beings, these entities are recruiting people and people it's
01:15:23.200 often children, often, uh, people that are teenagers, impressionable minds.
01:15:31.060 Uh, you think back when you're a kid, how impressionable you were, how you felt like you
01:15:35.160 were invincible, that you were never going to be 18.
01:15:37.900 You were never going to be 21.
01:15:39.080 You were never going to get married.
01:15:40.560 Man, I can't wait to have sex for the first time.
01:15:42.600 When is that going to happen?
01:15:43.600 Like everything was just forever away.
01:15:45.020 Right.
01:15:45.300 And so you take that kind of energy and you manipulate it.
01:15:49.660 And so, uh, that's my experience, not every time, but a lot of times it was people who were
01:15:59.040 children who were taken into a realm, uh, often to start in the dream state.
01:16:05.840 And, um, and there, and an entity appears to them and, and, uh, there's a lot of similarities
01:16:21.520 in my side of things where, um, people not every time, but I've heard it enough.
01:16:27.880 The idea of like walking through a tunnel or a cave system, uh, that is a common thing.
01:16:34.860 Uh, but an entity often dressed in black, not always, but often dressed in black will
01:16:40.520 be there and, uh, and basically recruiting you saying, I want you to work for me and you
01:16:45.880 can have this, that, and the other, uh, if you accept.
01:16:49.000 And if you do not accept, you just go back to where you came from kind of thing.
01:16:53.460 But if you do accept, that's where the ride begins.
01:16:56.180 And, um, I, I, there was a guy who, um, there's a guy that I mentioned, you know, you guys have
01:17:05.940 heard me mention, um, that I would love to talk with one day.
01:17:11.380 Yeah.
01:17:12.620 Ron.
01:17:13.480 Ron.
01:17:14.180 Great name.
01:17:14.980 Yeah.
01:17:15.840 Um, I, I don't know if it's ever going to happen.
01:17:20.640 I know where he lives.
01:17:21.840 I I've thought about, I I've hit him up on social media.
01:17:25.340 I know him.
01:17:26.480 I, I, he knows me.
01:17:27.580 I know him kind of thing.
01:17:28.380 He just won't stand down his front lawn with a box and just, yeah, I guess I leave it this
01:17:32.940 way.
01:17:33.080 I don't, I know the city he lives.
01:17:34.340 I don't know what his address.
01:17:35.500 Um, if you can't do it, man, Colin, I'm telling you, Colin, the same thing.
01:17:39.260 I was like, let's talk, come on my show when it was just the top lobster show.
01:17:42.320 And I had, I don't even think I'd met David and he was like, they're telling me not to,
01:17:46.480 they're saying don't speak.
01:17:47.940 And for some reason he just is, he's like, now's the time spoke with us.
01:17:52.140 And actually now I'm texting.
01:17:53.840 I'm like, Hey, how's everything going?
01:17:55.260 He's, he's experiencing like paranormal things, but like a poltergeist stuff, like lights stuff
01:18:01.580 moving over small, like weird things like that.
01:18:04.600 And I'm like, I mean, that's not good, dude.
01:18:06.920 So it's, yeah, if they can't, they can't literally is what I'm getting from it.
01:18:13.540 Like whatever they're in, in the same thing though, that Jerry Marzinski said, Jerry Marzinski
01:18:17.820 said, uh, that the voices did not like it when you address them or talk to them or ask
01:18:25.260 the, the victim about what are the voices saying?
01:18:27.900 And the victim would say, they don't want me to even talk about this.
01:18:31.480 And then over time, eventually he had an experience where it was like, Hey, they want to talk to
01:18:35.860 you.
01:18:36.080 So that experience was crazy.
01:18:38.960 So I, I, um, when you mentioned Jerry, I pulled his website up just so I can remember to reach
01:18:43.500 out to him again.
01:18:44.280 Cause I, I had this habit where I'll pull people up on, on the browser while they're talking
01:18:49.360 on an interview, just so I remember to do it later.
01:18:51.420 And then that tab stays open on the computer for like a month.
01:18:54.460 And then it winds up getting closed for some reason.
01:18:56.500 And I forget.
01:18:57.620 Um, so hopefully I can, I can email them, but, uh, there's like two or three other people
01:19:02.260 I'm supposed to be emailing the last few days.
01:19:03.720 I haven't done it yet, but, um, do it, do it.
01:19:06.080 Dude, his story, his story with, uh, with that specific and man, he had the guy, the
01:19:13.140 schizophrenic dude sit down and read like, same thing we're confronted with.
01:19:16.660 Now there's, there's two of you in there.
01:19:18.960 He had him read a passage about possibly these voices are something completely different.
01:19:23.460 And the guy read it, said, blanked out.
01:19:26.120 There was like some kind of actual power paranormal stuff.
01:19:28.720 Like, uh, he described it as like a static electric sound from the back of his ear that
01:19:33.460 traveled across the walls.
01:19:35.020 He followed it into a garbage can.
01:19:36.880 Turns out nothing in there.
01:19:38.100 The guy snaps out of his like zombie-ness looks at him and just goes, I got to go.
01:19:42.980 And he says, you should go, please go.
01:19:46.020 So the guy leaves, comes back a couple months later or something when he finally had the
01:19:50.080 nerve to call him back in his office.
01:19:51.260 And he was like, come in.
01:19:52.380 He said, the guy looks better.
01:19:53.420 He took his advice.
01:19:54.520 He's, he's now addressing the entities as something, not himself.
01:19:57.740 And he goes, oh wow.
01:19:59.120 Interesting.
01:19:59.840 And he recaps what happened.
01:20:01.220 He says, uh, did you, uh, when you were here, did you hear that like electric buzzing sound
01:20:06.340 going across the room?
01:20:07.680 And he goes, yeah, you heard that?
01:20:09.940 And he goes, yeah, well, what the hell was it?
01:20:12.700 And the guy says, those are the voices I did.
01:20:15.300 Like, usually you're not supposed to hear that.
01:20:17.520 So now he's like, huh, that's crazy.
01:20:20.140 What did they say?
01:20:21.780 And the guy looks him right in the eyes and he says, they said to go out of here, get a
01:20:26.440 shank and stick it in your guts.
01:20:28.600 And Jerry just like, why didn't you do it?
01:20:32.020 And he said, I couldn't find one and no one would give it to me.
01:20:35.760 That was it.
01:20:37.000 Yeah.
01:20:37.460 So you're interfering with their way of life.
01:20:39.400 There's another story he tells where they said, like, uh, the entities want to talk to
01:20:43.260 you.
01:20:43.360 And they said, you have no right to interfere with our way of life because he was in a
01:20:48.180 mental hospital.
01:20:49.240 No, right.
01:20:50.340 Right.
01:20:50.620 That idea of like powers and principalities.
01:20:52.580 You have no right to interfere with our way of life.
01:20:55.640 Yeah.
01:20:55.780 There are laws, there's rules to this stuff.
01:20:57.900 Like we don't know them, but they know the rules inherently.
01:21:00.720 One of them is, is definitely consent.
01:21:02.840 The other ones.
01:21:04.040 Oh yeah.
01:21:04.440 Consent's a big one, a big one.
01:21:06.400 Uh, but yeah, there, there's rules of engagement for sure.
01:21:09.720 Uh, and, and I don't know if everybody grasps that at all times.
01:21:15.720 Um, that's really interesting.
01:21:17.580 That's really interesting that he, that he heard that and that, that that's what the
01:21:21.660 whole, the whole thing.
01:21:23.420 Oh man.
01:21:25.040 Well, it's interesting because it's like, they allowed him, they, it started off with
01:21:28.780 like, they want to talk to you and then it ends with him actually hearing this crackling
01:21:34.880 electric sound.
01:21:35.620 And it's like, it's a manifestation, whether or not you hear that.
01:21:39.100 It manifests itself as almost, he described it as an electric crackling sound.
01:21:43.220 So electricity, frequency, energy, things that Tesla was messing with.
01:21:47.040 You know, it's like, there's a lot, all that stuff is intermingled, especially the frequency.
01:21:51.540 I'm a guitarist here.
01:21:52.300 So I've been like, I drive you down the rabbit hole with what I think about frequency and,
01:21:56.860 and, and all that kind of stuff like that.
01:21:59.500 But that part is the most interesting.
01:22:01.760 And the part that he couldn't perceive it as words, but the guy was like ready to stab
01:22:05.920 him in the guts because that crackling sounded to him.
01:22:08.980 So convincing, convincing enough to go out there and do that, go out and then come back.
01:22:13.100 It's that, that, that bugs me out, man.
01:22:17.000 This is making me think about this one guy I was in communication with.
01:22:22.160 He somehow found out what I was doing and he contacted me and said that he had a friend
01:22:31.300 who he grew up with, who was just like Ron.
01:22:36.360 And so we started, uh, I text him and I, and we scheduled a time for me to call him just
01:22:43.920 to talk on the phone.
01:22:44.920 And usually I don't talk to anybody without recording.
01:22:47.580 If it's not recorded, we're not talking on the phone.
01:22:49.980 We're not just chit-chatting one.
01:22:51.500 I don't have time.
01:22:52.220 And two, that's valuable information.
01:22:54.260 The world will never be able to hear and I will forget.
01:22:56.540 So I have to be able to record just for my own brain.
01:23:00.840 Um, but with this guy, I was like, I just, I just want to talk to him.
01:23:06.740 And he was at work.
01:23:08.940 It was like nine o'clock at night when I called him.
01:23:11.860 He, I, I hear him get off the floor.
01:23:14.500 It was like a machine shop or something.
01:23:17.100 And literally within like, I don't know, 30 seconds to a minute of this phone call, this
01:23:25.240 man I've never met before my entire life is just sobbing on the phone to the point of
01:23:31.000 like, you know how like kids, when they cry so hysterically, they hiccup.
01:23:33.400 They're like, like that, that's what he was doing on the phone with me.
01:23:37.940 And it, all I did was start talking about the stuff, asking him, you know, what do you
01:23:43.300 know?
01:23:43.560 What, what, what's what?
01:23:44.580 And he started talking and all of a sudden just started coming out and he started crying.
01:23:47.480 And he's like, I've never told my wife any of this.
01:23:49.860 And I'm, I'm scared that if I tell her she's going to leave me and you know, this, that
01:23:54.020 and the other.
01:23:54.360 And like, he's just, it was so, it was such a burden on him.
01:23:58.000 Um, but what I was able to get out of him was, uh, that a lot of people died.
01:24:04.920 Uh, all the people that he was involved with through this stuff are dead for the most part.
01:24:11.560 His friend is dead.
01:24:13.560 Uh, and I, I think, I feel like he, he felt a sense of responsibility towards, even though
01:24:21.400 it seemed like he was a bystander in it.
01:24:23.020 He's even said so, but, uh, I, I don't know if that was accurate or not.
01:24:28.040 I, I, you know, sometimes people say, oh, I was just a bystander when they actually were
01:24:31.860 very much participating.
01:24:33.980 Um, but he was deeply affected by it.
01:24:37.980 And I told him, I was like, listen, man, like, I'm not going to tell you what to do
01:24:41.120 with telling your wife and stuff.
01:24:43.760 That's on you to tell your wife.
01:24:45.840 I said, I understand your hesitation, but I also understand as somebody who has had some
01:24:50.440 secrets from my wife, uh, I could tell you that when you do come forward and you, and
01:24:59.280 you show your wife your dirty laundry and she chooses to love you through it, like that,
01:25:05.520 that relationship goes to a level that you never could have imagined.
01:25:09.620 And, um, I said, I'm not going to tell you to do that because if she doesn't love you through
01:25:14.260 it, I don't want to be responsible for it.
01:25:15.720 But, uh, I said to him, there is a lot of benefit to being vulnerable with the person
01:25:21.120 you're married to.
01:25:22.360 Um, and so him and I were trying to schedule a time to record, uh, a conversation for the
01:25:29.880 show and, you know, he canceled once, canceled twice, whatever.
01:25:34.280 And the day that we were supposed to record, he, he texts me a long text message.
01:25:38.560 And it basically was just like, since I've been talking to you, really bad things have been
01:25:43.180 happening and, uh, I will not record with you.
01:25:47.860 I do not want to talk to you.
01:25:49.300 I'm deleting your number and I want you to delete my number.
01:25:53.220 Now I didn't delete his number because I didn't consent to that.
01:25:56.980 Uh, but, um, I'm sure he deleted mine and I haven't heard from him since.
01:26:03.600 Uh, I probably will text him again one day, but, um, I don't know what happened, but for
01:26:09.400 him, something happened, something kicked up through talking with me.
01:26:14.640 And I, I do believe that there is a realm that is starting to, I'm noticing, maybe they've
01:26:22.440 been doing it for a while, but I'm starting to notice that, um, it's like, I feel like
01:26:27.680 I've been in a very dark room and all of a sudden the entities in that room are starting
01:26:31.700 to see me and they're starting to turn their head and look at me.
01:26:35.160 Um, and I, I don't know if that's because I'm hitting the right buttons or if I've just
01:26:39.940 been here long enough, they're finally getting around to my corner.
01:26:42.740 Um, but I'm noticing that certainly, in fact, it just happened today.
01:26:47.240 I can't get into great detail because it's actually part of my rebranding, uh, that I'm
01:26:52.100 doing with, for my show.
01:26:52.940 I'm actually coming, I'm actually coming out with a new logo for my show and new website
01:26:56.540 and stuff.
01:26:56.820 So as members, you'll have a new website.
01:26:58.160 Uh, but, uh, um, it's, it's a process and I'm hoping it all works out.
01:27:03.360 Okay.
01:27:03.600 But, um, basically my logo was left at the last property I investigated and my logo is
01:27:12.080 not public right now.
01:27:12.800 My new logo is not public right now.
01:27:15.260 And, um, and I, I, I talked to my guy, uh, Ward, who is, uh, my cameraman and he's like
01:27:23.040 the team chaplain, like he, like he's the theologian of the team and everything.
01:27:27.580 And I'm like, you know, I said, do you think it actually means anything?
01:27:31.240 He's like, at this point, I think it does.
01:27:32.960 He's like, I think, I think, um, it's getting to the point now where people are, these, these
01:27:37.660 things are seeing us, they're seeing what we're doing.
01:27:39.700 Cause we're being overt now about it.
01:27:41.180 Can you explain what you mean left there?
01:27:43.960 Like a sticker?
01:27:44.820 What is it?
01:27:45.500 What do you mean?
01:27:46.040 No, it, uh, yeah, I think I, I, so left a mark on somebody's house.
01:27:53.720 Of your logo.
01:27:55.340 Yeah.
01:27:56.420 Yeah.
01:27:56.660 That's, that's a lot bigger of a deal than you printed it out on paper and forgot it.
01:28:01.080 Yeah.
01:28:01.700 Um, it's like, I was like, no big deal.
01:28:03.820 Like people forget.
01:28:05.040 Yeah.
01:28:06.500 Yeah.
01:28:07.160 Um, yeah.
01:28:08.880 And it just, it was the last property that we went to, uh, private property that we went
01:28:13.500 to.
01:28:14.160 Um, so, uh, yeah, I, I think, but we, but we're, we're becoming very overt.
01:28:21.640 We're, so we, we started out with, uh, exhibition dog, man, the first documentary, and that was
01:28:26.700 the crew guys just getting together, not knowing what we had kind of thing.
01:28:30.980 And every time we get together to do something, we, we hammer out more details.
01:28:34.440 How do we want this to be?
01:28:35.640 How do we, how do we do this?
01:28:37.620 Um, and the last, the last time we, we did this, uh, we were very, like very overt and intentional
01:28:44.980 with prayer.
01:28:46.180 And we are now at the point where we're like, okay, this is spiritual warfare.
01:28:52.200 So bring it.
01:28:53.940 And, um, that's how we open up our investigations.
01:28:57.700 This is how we, uh, we did before too, but now we actually have intentional prayer in the
01:29:03.860 sense that it's not like, all right, Tone, uh, your team leader, let's do a prayer.
01:29:07.620 Okay.
01:29:08.280 And I can do that.
01:29:09.640 Um, Ward had written a prayer and it was a very thought out prayer.
01:29:16.180 Prayer with every word accounted for.
01:29:19.160 And he read the prayer.
01:29:21.100 Um, and I think, I think we're starting to do things in my mind.
01:29:27.000 Right.
01:29:27.980 And I think that's why the heads are starting to turn in the other realm.
01:29:32.740 And, um, I'm here for it.
01:29:35.520 I'm here for it.
01:29:36.760 That reminds me the, the Orthodox church.
01:29:39.620 Uh, they, they told me that, uh, when you get baptized, one of the prayers that they
01:29:43.620 do say is pointed and it's written and it's intentional, but part of that prayer is an
01:29:48.180 exorcism.
01:29:49.500 So, and I'm like, that makes a lot of sense, right?
01:29:51.980 If you're going to like be entering into this new portal, into this new realm, a new person,
01:29:55.480 you might want to get that old stuff out.
01:29:57.220 But it, for the Pentecostal church I came from, it's, that's not really a thing.
01:30:02.120 So, yeah.
01:30:03.160 What's really interesting, Tony, I'm sure this is not a foreign thing to you.
01:30:07.300 And I got it.
01:30:07.740 The audience probably hasn't heard this.
01:30:09.080 So I'm going to do a little story time real quick.
01:30:11.240 Um, you're probably very familiar with this.
01:30:13.640 People reach out to you.
01:30:14.780 They have experiences.
01:30:15.600 Suddenly they get dialed up to 10 after they reach out to you, right?
01:30:18.480 This, you would probably say at this point is a normal occurrence.
01:30:21.700 Yeah.
01:30:23.020 So I emailed you once and, um, I, I haven't even told top this actually.
01:30:29.660 Um, I might've shared a bit of the story, but I never told him about the correlation.
01:30:33.540 So it was probably the, the night that I emailed you, if it wasn't the night, it was within
01:30:40.580 a day, but it was after I emailed you to share some stories.
01:30:45.740 And one night I take my dog out for a walk and it's dusk and, um, she's a little puppy
01:30:54.060 and I'm, I'm walking her down the street.
01:30:56.060 And suddenly I hear the neighbors, they're like arguing in a really grotesque way.
01:31:01.120 They're screaming at one another and you can hear this couple like echoing through the
01:31:05.980 streets.
01:31:06.600 It's like mortifying.
01:31:07.700 I don't like being around when people are embarrassing themselves.
01:31:10.540 So unfortunately the puppy like is so jostled by this.
01:31:14.620 She just plants it and sits down and it's like right in front of their house across the
01:31:18.980 street, but in front of their house.
01:31:20.040 So I'm like trying to get her to move and she doesn't want to go and kind of be a nosy
01:31:24.900 at this point too.
01:31:25.980 And I can kind of hear that the wife has forgotten something and the husband is,
01:31:31.120 unbelievably angry about it.
01:31:32.680 And they're calling each other every name under the sun and they have to get in the
01:31:36.740 car and retrace their steps to find whatever it is.
01:31:39.000 She forgot.
01:31:39.600 So they leave in a hurry and they leave everything on.
01:31:45.300 Like I can see their house, the sun's going down, but it's not fully dark, but all the
01:31:49.420 lights from their house are lighting up the, uh, the street.
01:31:52.660 And as they're leaving and I'm like trying to act like I didn't see them, there's like a
01:31:56.440 family approaching me and I've got a puppy and they've got a stroller and some kids and
01:32:00.820 I'm anticipating, I just moved to town.
01:32:02.460 Right.
01:32:02.740 So I'm like, this is going to be nice.
01:32:05.180 Like this is going to be wholesome.
01:32:06.320 Right.
01:32:06.700 I've got a puppy.
01:32:07.500 They've got some kids.
01:32:08.360 This is going to be a nice interaction.
01:32:09.720 I'm like feeling like a family man.
01:32:11.500 I just moved into my first home.
01:32:13.580 And so as they're coming, I kind of turned my body away from these people as they're leaving.
01:32:19.320 So they don't see me.
01:32:20.340 So I don't want to make eye contact with you yelling at your wife.
01:32:22.920 And, um, I noticed that as they're approaching in my peripheral vision, I can see someone
01:32:30.180 standing in the, actually it wasn't even my peripheral.
01:32:33.680 That's right.
01:32:33.900 I remember looking over and seeing somebody standing in their garage.
01:32:37.500 Um, but it was like a silhouette.
01:32:39.800 And I just remember thinking, well, that's weird.
01:32:42.280 I just watched them leave, but I don't know these people.
01:32:44.080 Maybe more people live in the house, whatever.
01:32:45.620 But anyway, here comes this family and we have the moment, right?
01:32:49.060 Like we hit it off.
01:32:50.340 I go, Hey folks, how you doing?
01:32:51.660 They go, nice night.
01:32:52.620 How old's the puppy?
01:32:53.740 And in my peripheral, I see this silhouette of a man beeline for me.
01:32:59.200 And you could tell when somebody's like boogieing for you.
01:33:01.720 Like, and I'm, this is a totally normal situation still.
01:33:06.320 So I'm like mortified.
01:33:07.920 I'm thinking, dude, this guy is about to come and apologize for what I've heard.
01:33:12.960 And I don't want that at all.
01:33:14.780 So I'm, I start to turn my body away from him so I could really focus on it.
01:33:18.880 Oh, how old's the baby?
01:33:20.300 And we're still having this moment.
01:33:21.680 And I can see him like speed walking up to me.
01:33:25.480 And finally I turn.
01:33:27.920 So he's out of my sight.
01:33:28.960 Cause as I'm doing this, they're also like kind of curving.
01:33:32.240 And I, you know, so I'm turning and talking to them.
01:33:35.300 They leave, we have this nice interaction and I'm waiting for this guy to say something
01:33:39.900 to me.
01:33:40.360 I'm waiting for him to go like, Hey, so sorry about what you heard.
01:33:43.060 And I was going to go like, Oh dude, what you are didn't even, Hey, happens to the best
01:33:47.720 of us.
01:33:48.020 I know how it is.
01:33:48.980 And he's not saying anything.
01:33:51.180 So I'm now even as an extra layer of mortification.
01:33:54.780 Cause I'm like, I have to engage now.
01:33:56.760 Fantastic.
01:33:57.440 And I turn and nobody's there at all, which is not so bad.
01:34:03.400 Now I don't have to have this interaction.
01:34:04.960 Right?
01:34:05.580 So the puppy finishes what she's doing.
01:34:08.060 Man, I go back to the house and I get inside and I start talking to my wife and my niece
01:34:11.780 and I go, yeah, it was crazy.
01:34:13.420 Neighbors are screaming at each other.
01:34:14.800 Then what happened?
01:34:15.480 Well, they got in the car and they left.
01:34:16.960 What did you do?
01:34:17.660 Well, there was a family coming and, and I actually thought I saw one of the come out
01:34:22.520 of their driveway and walk up to me, but I don't know.
01:34:25.160 It was weird.
01:34:25.960 And I was, and they go, well, what happened?
01:34:27.780 I go, I don't know.
01:34:28.160 I turned around.
01:34:28.540 He wasn't there.
01:34:29.040 And then my niece goes, yeah, that's creepy.
01:34:33.340 And I go, huh?
01:34:34.920 Yeah, I guess that is creepy.
01:34:36.600 And my wife's like, you definitely saw somebody.
01:34:38.040 I go, yeah, I definitely saw somebody.
01:34:39.740 There's a, I knew it was the worst thing ever.
01:34:43.020 When I watched that dude walk towards me, I was like, I don't want what he's got for
01:34:46.040 me.
01:34:46.480 I don't want to have this conversation.
01:34:48.340 So they convinced me that it's creepy.
01:34:50.980 And not even 15 minutes later, my front door, boom, boom, boom, boom.
01:34:58.340 I opened the door.
01:35:00.600 Nobody's there.
01:35:01.960 I go, what the hell?
01:35:03.120 Like we're, we're new to the neighborhood.
01:35:04.860 Like, and my, my door is, I'm standing in the living room.
01:35:08.780 The door is right.
01:35:09.400 I wish I could show you.
01:35:10.520 It's right there.
01:35:11.060 Like, it's not like you're on the other side of the house hearing something.
01:35:13.920 I'm standing next to it.
01:35:16.040 So my family kind of goes like, what the hell is that about?
01:35:19.960 I don't know, dude.
01:35:22.540 A couple of minutes later, tap, tap, tap on the window.
01:35:27.240 I'm like, I go outside.
01:35:28.840 I look around the house.
01:35:29.680 Now I'm kind of going into like dad mode, right?
01:35:32.540 Cause I've got kids and near, and I'm in a new neighborhood and somebody's doing something
01:35:35.820 really weird to my house.
01:35:36.920 So I'm looking around.
01:35:38.360 Nobody's here.
01:35:38.980 I go back inside.
01:35:40.080 Boom, boom, boom on my garage door.
01:35:42.600 They're just doing different things around my house now.
01:35:45.380 And I'm getting pissed because this is like absolutely bizarre.
01:35:49.300 Like I'm brand new here to this neighborhood.
01:35:51.280 I just had somebody walk up to me and now, and I've drawn a correlation already.
01:35:54.740 I'm like, this is, this is creepy as shit, man.
01:35:57.260 I don't know what's going on, but this is spooky.
01:35:58.980 So, uh, we have this all night and eventually it fades and I go to sleep.
01:36:07.060 It happens on the window behind my head.
01:36:09.500 I have to get up and go out in my house at night.
01:36:12.340 I'm walking around my house with a gun at night for who's knocking on my window.
01:36:16.220 Nobody's there, dude.
01:36:17.320 This persists for like weeks, like two, three weeks.
01:36:22.980 And I'm going on the next door neighbor app and I'm trying to figure out, is anybody else
01:36:26.560 having this?
01:36:27.160 And people were, which was really interesting.
01:36:28.980 People were having this.
01:36:30.120 Some people were claiming that it was, um, a, uh, teenagers doing something and then
01:36:35.740 other people were, but the, but they never saw them.
01:36:38.440 They would just say like, every time I opened the door, they had already run.
01:36:41.360 It was teenagers with sticks, right?
01:36:43.600 Teenagers.
01:36:44.300 Yeah.
01:36:44.980 Yeah.
01:36:45.500 I know about those guys.
01:36:47.460 So, um, what it gets really bad is there's two events.
01:36:51.820 One is my niece wakes up in the morning and she says that she saw the silhouette of a man,
01:36:57.240 uh, standing in her window, but like a really tall man.
01:37:00.820 And you got to understand the way my niece's window is.
01:37:03.500 It's like almost all the way to the ceiling.
01:37:04.960 So for somebody to be almost all the way to the ceiling, that's a big ass dude.
01:37:08.620 And now I'm bummed out because I'm like, I don't know how to explain this to you, but
01:37:12.780 like I bought my family to Florida and we uprooted everything and we took one of the biggest
01:37:19.520 chances in the world and now we're haunted and this is my fault.
01:37:23.900 You know what I mean?
01:37:24.940 So I feel like a lot of responsibility for this.
01:37:28.000 So my cousin and I are standing in the living room one day and we're within arm's reach of
01:37:34.360 the door and it's nighttime and my front porch light is on boom, boom, boom, boom.
01:37:39.240 And we grabbed that handle so fast, ripped it open, ran.
01:37:42.720 He ran one way.
01:37:43.660 I read, you ever see signs where it's like, I'm screaming with anger.
01:37:47.020 Like he runs one way.
01:37:48.380 I run the other way.
01:37:49.160 And there's nothing.
01:37:50.160 And we turn around.
01:37:51.100 And the only thing that I see is a skittering black cloud move across my front lawn, but
01:37:57.880 I'm there and the light is on.
01:37:59.880 And this is not an animal because I can see everything.
01:38:02.600 I could see the leaves on my bushes.
01:38:04.020 Why can't I make out what this thing is?
01:38:05.760 And my cousin goes, did you see that?
01:38:07.300 And I go on the lawn.
01:38:08.540 He goes, no.
01:38:09.320 And he points in the distance and there's just a shadow running across like the street,
01:38:14.800 but there's no, there's not a person.
01:38:16.940 It's just a shadow.
01:38:17.960 It's under the street light.
01:38:20.120 And there's no, but there's no person.
01:38:23.140 Oh, I love this story.
01:38:25.820 But no, because that's where the story ends, dude.
01:38:28.240 Because that night I'm like wielding the authority of the name of Jesus Christ all around my house.
01:38:34.400 And I'm very specific.
01:38:36.460 I'm like, you will leave this place.
01:38:37.820 I am the owner of this home.
01:38:39.120 You have no authority to be here in the name of Jesus Christ.
01:38:42.040 Be gone from here.
01:38:42.960 Go where he wills you.
01:38:44.220 Leave my family.
01:38:45.120 Leave my niece.
01:38:46.140 You are, you know, not any room in this house.
01:38:48.220 Not my lawn.
01:38:49.360 Wherever Jesus wills you is the name of the game.
01:38:51.780 And that shit stopped on a dime, homie.
01:38:53.920 That was it after that.
01:38:55.080 Although, from time to time, still.
01:38:57.500 And my son will go like, why does something knock on the window sometimes?
01:39:01.640 And I go, I don't know, dude.
01:39:03.600 But it's not, it's like non-threatening.
01:39:05.200 But it's like, you know what it specifically felt like?
01:39:07.720 That permission thing.
01:39:09.020 It was like this thing that, this is the feeling that I got.
01:39:11.780 And I think the feelings go a long way, guys, when it comes to this kind of shit.
01:39:14.880 And thank you, Tony.
01:39:15.540 This is all your fault because I emailed you.
01:39:16.860 So, your feelings go, your feelings on the situation, they go a long way when it comes
01:39:22.480 to like interpreting what's going on.
01:39:24.060 That thing on the street tried me.
01:39:27.240 And I hadn't like displayed authority over my home yet.
01:39:31.460 I was a new homeowner.
01:39:32.880 And I think before you, maybe there's like a ceremony we should be doing, like invoking
01:39:37.900 the name of Christ and taking ownership over the home.
01:39:41.500 And I hadn't done that yet.
01:39:43.400 And so, you're leaving like a door open, like a spiritual door open where these things
01:39:48.200 can try you because you haven't claimed this place as your own yet.
01:39:51.800 And that thing was trying me.
01:39:54.560 And I think, honestly, I think it was like, this is how I feel, some low-level weak-ass
01:39:58.760 shit.
01:39:59.220 Like it was like knocking on me and knocking on my door.
01:40:02.140 And it wasn't like a strong entity.
01:40:03.760 It wasn't like, I've seen some shit before.
01:40:05.860 It was the entity Hood Rats.
01:40:08.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:40:09.080 Exactly.
01:40:09.600 It was the Miami Mall kids.
01:40:11.900 But I mean, when I tell you this happened like maybe a day after I emailed you, I was
01:40:18.060 like, what?
01:40:18.560 Should I have emailed Tony?
01:40:19.860 Like, I swear.
01:40:21.280 I get that all the time.
01:40:22.940 I get that all the time.
01:40:24.260 People, people, they'll email me.
01:40:26.080 And they're like, since I emailed you, stuff's been happening.
01:40:28.460 I'm not doing the interview.
01:40:29.360 I'm like, all right.
01:40:30.700 I'm pretty busy anyways.
01:40:32.860 How many days you have a guy that had a schizophrenic girlfriend that you were supposed to do a
01:40:38.900 show and then it ended up falling through because specifically they did not want to
01:40:42.620 communicate with you?
01:40:43.980 Well, I don't remember exactly how that unfolded.
01:40:49.240 But I do remember I had a dream before I was supposed to interview them.
01:40:54.260 Yeah, I think you're right.
01:40:55.060 But I had a dream before they canceled.
01:40:58.920 I think it was how it unfolded.
01:41:00.240 And in the dream, I was interviewing a guy and a girl and she started crawling through
01:41:07.420 the screen and I was reaching for my computer button to turn it off the screen, trying to
01:41:13.960 stop it from happening.
01:41:15.340 And I woke up yelling.
01:41:16.880 My wife woke me up.
01:41:18.900 And yeah, that was an interesting one because that one, I'm fairly convinced she's dealing
01:41:25.520 with some serious possession stuff and I don't think he agrees with that notion.
01:41:34.800 I'm hearing things.
01:41:38.240 We have some weird things happen here.
01:41:40.560 I think it's just because of what I do.
01:41:42.700 But going to what you were saying though, I think, and I'm not perfect at this, but I
01:41:51.120 think if we, I think where we, we fall short is that we, we, we claim the authority, but
01:41:58.160 we don't do it continually.
01:41:59.940 And we're instructed to pray continually, always be in prayer.
01:42:04.000 And, and I think, I think if we just start making it part of our routine and doing it
01:42:10.040 with the, the nut, maybe not like, you know, like that, that, that anger aggression, but
01:42:16.100 like just the, the, the passion desire of wanting to see your family whole and left
01:42:22.920 alone.
01:42:23.960 Um, if we do that more continually, those little taps may not happen.
01:42:28.940 Cause I think, I do think that, that, that when you, when you pray over your home and
01:42:33.220 stuff, I believe it works, but I think that they, it's like, it's like, um, they keep
01:42:39.640 pushing, right?
01:42:40.280 So you have this big bat and you hit them out of the yard, they're just going to land
01:42:44.860 and start crawling their way back.
01:42:46.940 And so, um, I think it's the continual prayer, I think is what we need to be putting more
01:42:51.440 in practice.
01:42:51.900 And I'm not perfect at it.
01:42:53.460 Um, we, we have had things happen in the house.
01:42:56.660 We, we had a banging situation on my house not too long ago, probably a few months ago
01:43:00.260 now.
01:43:01.000 Um, and I searched my entire property.
01:43:03.260 That's what I love about being in East Tennessee.
01:43:04.880 I can walk around my, my property anytime a day with an AR, my neighbors are like, Hey neighbor.
01:43:09.500 I'm like, Hey, how you doing?
01:43:10.680 You know, nobody cares.
01:43:12.060 Um, my neighbor comes out and he, he, he sees me with my AR walking around my property.
01:43:16.300 He's like, you shooting?
01:43:17.220 And I was like, I was like, nah, I heard, I said, I heard, and he knows what I do.
01:43:22.740 So, uh, I said, I heard something banged on my house and he's like, well, I'm pretty much
01:43:27.540 deaf, but my wife and kids, they heard it too.
01:43:30.900 And he said, it sounded like, they said that it sounded like something was banging on your
01:43:33.820 house.
01:43:34.180 And I was like, yeah, that's what it sounded like.
01:43:36.320 And, um, and so I was ready to shoot Bigfoot or something.
01:43:39.320 I don't know, but I, I didn't see anything.
01:43:41.660 Um, but even before that, um, I, for me, a lot of the stuff tends to happen when I'm
01:43:49.120 not home.
01:43:50.000 Like, I think there's a sign there.
01:43:53.380 I mean, I, I, I do exercise spiritual authority in my household, uh, significantly.
01:43:59.980 And so when I'm not there, I think it's where the buttons get pushed.
01:44:04.200 Um, same thing for me, my wife will tell me that she hears all kinds of, I'll get text
01:44:09.000 messages like, Oh, it's super creepy here right now.
01:44:11.640 And I'm like, and, but I don't have it when I come here.
01:44:14.440 Yeah, exactly.
01:44:15.420 Like, I mean, I, I, I, I'm not, I don't think I've ever really been creeped out in my house.
01:44:21.140 Um, yeah, but when I was, I was probably here, I don't remember where I was, but my wife was
01:44:28.920 putting my daughter down for a nap and she's laying in the bed with my daughter.
01:44:33.080 Um, my son's in the living room watching TV or whatever.
01:44:36.940 And, um, she has her back towards the bedroom door and she hears a whisper go, mommy.
01:44:47.420 And she turns around to look cause she thinks it's Benny, my son, and ain't nobody in there.
01:44:52.420 And so she rolls over towards my daughter and just lays there the entire nap time, holding
01:44:57.560 her, snapping with her.
01:44:59.880 And, you know, I don't think she really thought much of it.
01:45:02.500 Uh, and then she comes out of the bedroom after nap time is over and my son comes running
01:45:08.360 over and says, mommy, something really scary happened when you were in there.
01:45:11.120 And she's like, what?
01:45:12.580 And he said, I heard somebody whisper my name from the hallway, which is right where my daughter's
01:45:17.740 bedroom was.
01:45:18.780 And so at the same time that my wife heard somebody whisper mommy, my son heard somebody
01:45:23.680 whisper Benny, uh, to him and I wasn't there for it.
01:45:27.980 And so, you know, I went home and prayed over the house and I have anointing oil and I don't
01:45:34.240 know if that works or not, but I have it, uh, Pentecostal here, you know, we just got
01:45:37.880 to throw the oil around.
01:45:38.820 Come on.
01:45:40.320 I'll take the oil before I take the sage.
01:45:42.200 People are like burn sage.
01:45:43.220 I'm like, I'm not burning the sage.
01:45:44.660 When this is over, if you have a minute, I'll tell you about something, uh, some stuff
01:45:49.740 going on.
01:45:50.160 I told David.
01:45:51.540 So I've spilled my guts out on live air and you won't do this.
01:45:54.720 I got it.
01:45:55.240 I get it.
01:45:55.720 I get it.
01:45:56.340 I get it.
01:45:56.820 Not everybody's as brave as me.
01:45:57.920 That's just how he is.
01:45:58.860 He just, he's closed off.
01:46:00.320 If it was just me, if it was just me, I would, I would say it, but it involves, uh, something
01:46:04.740 to not, not necessarily my wife, but like, you know, her side of the family.
01:46:08.480 So I'm just not going to like tell their business before.
01:46:12.280 Honestly, I haven't even told them what I'm suspecting with the story.
01:46:15.660 I, I haven't even told them and I'm pretty sure that I'm spot on.
01:46:19.040 My wife agrees with me, but, um, after the show, just if you're interested, remind me,
01:46:23.220 but I had told David it's, it's very, it's a similar thing where your household will come
01:46:28.520 under attack.
01:46:29.040 And this was before I was doing a show or anything.
01:46:30.780 It's like almost right when I moved to Florida, like life had like a downturn, you know, wife,
01:46:36.400 wife was sick.
01:46:37.540 Kids were jacked up.
01:46:38.940 My son was, uh, delayed, like critically delayed in speech from, you know, just being in New
01:46:44.800 York, not seeing anyone's face.
01:46:47.460 It was, it was horrible.
01:46:49.820 And, uh, you know, we've, we've, we've got it under control.
01:46:51.980 We've managed it.
01:46:52.920 And obviously like prayer is a big thing.
01:46:55.200 My mom's probably watching this and she's like, I don't talk about my spirituality with
01:46:58.740 my mom.
01:46:59.300 She's a Christian, but I I'm just, I'm saying like, I learned how to pray in a different
01:47:04.640 way now.
01:47:05.100 Whereas before I kind of, I felt like I was just mimicking my dad or, you know, how like
01:47:09.700 they, they have the, someone has a cadence in prayer to me.
01:47:12.880 I was like, that's not really prayer.
01:47:13.960 It didn't work for me.
01:47:14.860 Now I just talked to, I talked to God and Jesus, like, uh, kind of like I'm talking to
01:47:19.020 you now, but you know, obviously with much more respect, just, but it's, it's got, I
01:47:24.840 feel like for me, it's gotta be a conversation.
01:47:26.360 And that has helped, I think my family get out of what was going on.
01:47:31.540 And when I tell you later, you're going to understand why it's just, I hate to, I hate
01:47:34.500 to leave it like that, but no, it's too important.
01:47:36.560 Yeah.
01:47:36.700 Yeah.
01:47:37.020 Yeah.
01:47:37.260 No, I mean, not, not everything's trust me.
01:47:39.920 I've learned over the years, not everything's for the airwaves, whether the people like it
01:47:42.660 or not, that there'll be people, there'll be people that'll comment.
01:47:45.320 They'll be like, I hate when they say that they can't, uh, they, they, they can't talk
01:47:49.660 about it, but they, they bring it up and it's like, well, you couldn't just be left in the
01:47:53.840 dark and not know that there's anything to be talked about.
01:47:56.220 You know, like we can bring it to, to a certain edge, but there's certain lines that
01:48:00.500 just can't be crossed.
01:48:01.400 And I know it's, it's, it's candy to the ears, but, uh, maybe sometimes people do that
01:48:06.280 on purpose for me.
01:48:07.300 I'm not that strategic.
01:48:08.260 I just, I just am who I am.
01:48:10.220 And I just talk and things come out.
01:48:12.280 And sometimes my fans, my fans that know who I am, know that I never do that.
01:48:16.760 Like if you, if you watch my other show, tower gang, it's offensive comedy to the nth degree,
01:48:23.760 the most offensive comedic show.
01:48:25.840 So nothing's off the table.
01:48:27.140 We're talking about everything, any word that you can imagine.
01:48:30.420 Nothing is taboo.
01:48:31.620 I do it because I feel like it breaks down this, uh, this matrix that's been built up
01:48:36.580 or up around us.
01:48:37.660 And it's, it's almost like, I have a hard time putting, um, this show and what I do and
01:48:42.900 in my personal life separate from what I do on Twitter and what I do with that show.
01:48:47.640 But I feel like it's very important.
01:48:49.220 Like it gives people this, this extra step, like, Oh, these, they're just being real.
01:48:53.780 Like I was like this in the nineties too, you know?
01:48:56.700 And then all of a sudden something happened where it's like, I can't express myself.
01:49:00.080 I can't tell the truth.
01:49:01.500 That's really the biggest part of it.
01:49:03.720 And whether it's, um, whether I'm being truthful with some of the awful jokes, I say, it's just
01:49:08.700 that I'm, I'm stepping past that line and I'm saying, come with me, you know, this is
01:49:13.040 not, this is not malicious.
01:49:14.460 I don't hate these.
01:49:15.160 I don't hate people, but come with me.
01:49:16.980 Let's, let's step past this thing.
01:49:18.400 Whatever they told us that we can't do.
01:49:20.080 That's like, we have to break that off in order to understand what is really going on
01:49:23.600 around this.
01:49:23.980 Because like we've been put into this like blanket state of sleep where people are watching
01:49:28.480 what they do and what they say.
01:49:29.940 And no one really knows what is going on.
01:49:34.060 I think it takes a special person to be able to do that.
01:49:38.700 Um, I really think it takes a special person to be able to do that.
01:49:42.240 Cause I, uh, one of the worst people in the world here.
01:49:44.840 Shout out Juana.
01:49:45.500 Top down line.
01:49:46.400 You don't have to.
01:49:48.180 No, we're not shouting out Juana anymore.
01:49:49.660 We shout out, uh, Thomas, the paranoid American.
01:49:51.940 No shout out for Juana.
01:49:53.320 But yeah, no, I think it takes a special person to kind of do that because it takes the forward
01:49:56.940 thinking, the, the understanding of like, there's a destination that I'm trying to get to,
01:50:03.140 and we're going to take these steps to get there and we're going to do it intentionally.
01:50:07.180 Uh, with, I imagine as little emotion attached to it as possible.
01:50:15.380 I, I just for like, because I couldn't do it.
01:50:18.980 I couldn't do that.
01:50:19.940 I couldn't do it.
01:50:20.620 I get too rowdy.
01:50:21.960 I get too rowdy.
01:50:23.040 And so like, I, like I can't, like, I can't, there's a reason why I can't, I don't even
01:50:30.140 watch UFC.
01:50:31.320 I don't understand it.
01:50:32.900 Like, I don't understand the idea of two guys getting a ring and try and knock each
01:50:36.960 other out and not hating each other afterwards.
01:50:39.080 I'm like, that doesn't compute with me.
01:50:41.060 It doesn't seem like a sport.
01:50:42.100 So, um, and I, I, I think that it takes a special kind of person to do it.
01:50:46.040 And I think we need people like that, that are able to, to do that in a strategic way.
01:50:50.560 Um, so I think that's awesome.
01:50:53.460 I think what it is, is it's like, there's been this encroaching power.
01:50:56.740 That's like part of the, the battle that's coming from, you know, the negative side of
01:51:02.600 all this is part of the control mechanism is controlling our speech, controlling our,
01:51:07.220 like top said, our ability to tell the truth, the logos, you can't fight that unless you
01:51:13.220 do it all.
01:51:14.100 So if the battle is on a verbal front, if the battle is with the things that you can
01:51:18.520 and can't say, well, if you're on the side of free speech and, and you know, that the
01:51:24.380 truth is the most important thing and you have to be able to express that, well, then how
01:51:27.640 do you wield that?
01:51:28.400 You wield that in the biggest F you way possible, which is whatever I want and I'm not going
01:51:33.560 to stop.
01:51:34.100 What is speech?
01:51:35.200 And like, when you really think about it, it's in the, it's the first book of the Bible
01:51:37.940 within the first, the first verse, God said something and it was good.
01:51:42.240 It was true.
01:51:43.280 So that's like, there's a Jordan Peterson thing.
01:51:45.520 That's where we get the top lobster, but it's like, if you're not saying the truth, what
01:51:49.340 are like, what are you manifesting?
01:51:51.460 You're maybe just nothing, maybe just crap.
01:51:54.540 But for me, it's like, if I'm not saying the truth, even at my own detriment and thank
01:51:58.980 God things have worked out for me the way that they have, because it could have gone awry
01:52:03.700 years ago.
01:52:04.260 I got doxed when I was just a t-shirt company and like not really even talking, but yeah,
01:52:10.100 I don't know.
01:52:10.400 I've just been consistently saying the truth as I see it and people seem to like it and
01:52:15.840 it's gotten me this far to the point where I'm like, I don't know where I'm at, but I
01:52:20.900 don't know where I'm going to end up, but I've gotten this far doing that.
01:52:23.480 And I continue, I intend on doing the same thing.
01:52:26.340 It's just like Tony has since the beginning of this episode, since the pre-chat, he's
01:52:32.260 like, am I doing this right?
01:52:34.020 Am I doing the right thing?
01:52:35.740 Am I headed in the right direction?
01:52:38.660 I'll tell you in a year.
01:52:40.200 I think there has to be an awareness of what you're able to do, who you are.
01:52:45.420 But like, all right, so what you're describing, what you're doing and what Peterson does, same
01:52:52.580 idea, different ways of doing it, right?
01:52:55.900 And neither one of those is something that I have a strong suit at.
01:53:02.040 So I can be insulting, but when I'm insulting, I'm not doing it to make a point.
01:53:07.160 I'm doing it to be insulting.
01:53:08.280 I'm doing it to be extremely nasty because I do not like you.
01:53:12.420 And I don't have the middle ground switch.
01:53:16.080 I have a, hey, we're really cool to, I can't stand you.
01:53:20.400 And so I don't cross certain lines because I know where it goes for me.
01:53:25.680 And so there's certain arenas that I don't play in because it's just not good for me.
01:53:30.960 And so I think that's what I'm trying to say.
01:53:33.960 Like there's a special, there's special people in this world who have the ability to do certain
01:53:38.520 things like Jordan.
01:53:39.540 I love Jordan.
01:53:41.140 Jordan is such a high intellectual person who can speak in a way that retards like me can
01:53:47.220 understand, you know?
01:53:48.960 And like that, that's special.
01:53:52.240 And, and I, and the same thing with the comedy and things like that.
01:53:56.680 But for me, I think I tried it a little bit when I did my radio show, Rage Against Dystopia.
01:54:04.440 And I quickly learned after about, I don't know, a month or two of doing a radio show
01:54:09.440 that it was, it was killing me because the only way I could do this Rage Against Dystopia
01:54:15.820 show is to find things that I was getting irate about because like, like I don't have
01:54:21.160 that, I don't have the ability to convey bad things without being furious about it.
01:54:26.400 And I realized that's what people were coming to the show for.
01:54:28.960 They wanted to hear me rant and get angry.
01:54:30.960 And I was like, this isn't healthy for me.
01:54:32.340 I can't do this because I'm just going to lose my mind and, and for everybody's enjoyment
01:54:37.420 and entertainment.
01:54:38.320 And so that's what I kind of knowing it's knowing what you're good at, right?
01:54:42.000 Like, so there's varying levels of like, you're like, I can't even watch UFC.
01:54:45.520 I love the UFC, but everyone is, is a different at a different spot.
01:54:49.620 David keeps trying to get me to watch this Obama film.
01:54:52.300 And even my, my mom too, like you got to watch it.
01:54:54.320 It's a good one.
01:54:54.780 It's a good one.
01:54:55.600 You see, for me though, Tony, I can watch guys pummel each other to death and then shake
01:55:00.200 hands and understand it.
01:55:01.460 I can't watch the PSYOP that is a movie about the PSYOP of the guy that created the PSYOP.
01:55:08.220 I can't do it.
01:55:09.020 It brings me down spiritually.
01:55:10.420 And I know it already.
01:55:11.660 Like I'm already, I already dabble in this stuff all day.
01:55:13.740 I'm like, I don't need to, I know what they, I watched the live stream of the World Economic
01:55:17.280 Forum with Klaus Schwab.
01:55:18.260 He said it there.
01:55:18.940 I don't need to see it in a movie with a diversified cast.
01:55:22.160 What's really interesting about you, Top, is that I, you, you got really like upset
01:55:26.460 about the January 6th thing, even like watching what was happening to people.
01:55:29.480 And you've told me that before.
01:55:31.080 And it's like, yeah, like seeing, like knowing that these guys were about to get locked up,
01:55:35.620 knowing that this was all going to be spun around on them like that really hurt you.
01:55:39.180 And like, I don't know.
01:55:40.660 It is interesting.
01:55:42.480 You have your spots where you can't do a thing.
01:55:45.540 Like you can't watch, leave the world behind.
01:55:47.660 I don't know where, where my spots are yet, but I have noticed that about you is like,
01:55:51.420 there's certain things where you're totally willing to go there.
01:55:53.960 And then other things you're like, no, that's poison for me.
01:55:56.620 And I don't want it.
01:55:57.360 And I'm like, that's really interesting.
01:55:58.380 It's good to have your spots.
01:55:59.740 Tony, you haven't been on, you haven't been on a X very long or you have, but like that
01:56:05.340 bothers me.
01:56:06.000 The movie on Netflix.
01:56:07.060 I don't like it.
01:56:08.760 I'm completely fine with having an interaction with Elon Musk about the Jews in Adrenochrome
01:56:13.800 getting articles written about me.
01:56:15.660 I just like, that is like fine.
01:56:18.260 But that other thing I can't do, and I know I can't do it.
01:56:21.460 So I just don't do it.
01:56:22.460 Like I'm at the stage in my life where I'm like, that's what I don't do.
01:56:25.140 And I don't do it.
01:56:26.360 Tony, go ahead.
01:56:28.300 I watched that movie right when it came out.
01:56:32.180 I didn't know who was behind it or anything.
01:56:34.460 I didn't even know it was coming out.
01:56:35.920 It just so happened.
01:56:36.820 I went on Netflix while we were getting ready to wrap Santa's presents to the kids.
01:56:42.400 And I was like, this looks like my vibe, but I'm watching it.
01:56:46.020 I'm like, oh my gosh.
01:56:47.940 I was like, they're telling us what's going to happen.
01:56:50.340 I'm like, I'll tell my wife, she was like wrapping presents for Santa and save from Santa.
01:56:54.600 And I'm like, this is revealing the method.
01:56:57.600 This is revelation of the method.
01:56:58.600 This is what they're telling us.
01:56:59.600 This is what's going to happen.
01:57:00.420 And I'm like, I'm like losing my mind.
01:57:02.340 And she, and she's watching it.
01:57:03.820 She's like, I think you're right.
01:57:04.900 I'm like, yeah, yeah.
01:57:06.140 Buy more food.
01:57:07.220 Get a bunker.
01:57:07.920 The bunkers have been a big thing the last couple of weeks.
01:57:14.700 I mean, Mark Zuckerberg building his own bunkers.
01:57:17.300 Apparently the Jews in New York already have their own bunkers.
01:57:20.240 I don't have a bunker in your yard.
01:57:22.200 Let's build a bunker in your yard.
01:57:23.320 It's Florida.
01:57:23.860 I don't know how that works.
01:57:24.620 It's like soft ground here.
01:57:25.720 I don't even have a basement.
01:57:26.600 Tony, one of the craziest things, right?
01:57:28.360 So Top goes through all this stuff.
01:57:29.600 He'll be exposed to all these crazy things.
01:57:31.080 Like he said, people writing articles about him.
01:57:33.160 We're at a gathering at his house and we're presented with a recording.
01:57:36.600 And this recording is, unfortunately, it's very dark in nature.
01:57:40.320 The story goes, there was some roommates and one of them was addicted to fentanyl.
01:57:48.240 And so what ends up happening is he starts going through this episode.
01:57:53.360 And I don't think that the other roommate knew necessarily that he was ODing, but he can
01:57:58.200 hear him in the bathroom making horrifying sounds.
01:58:01.960 And so what he does is he starts to record.
01:58:03.480 And as he's recording, you can tell that there is at least three discernible voices going
01:58:10.660 on, but there's only one guy in the bathroom.
01:58:13.620 At some points, they are happening at the same time, speaking over one another.
01:58:18.320 As a matter of fact, and I know this is interesting because you've stumbled upon this thing recently.
01:58:22.580 I believe I heard it through your show, this idea of a second set of vocal cords.
01:58:26.160 So like this, that people can emit almost a different voice.
01:58:29.920 And maybe I'm, maybe I'm wrong if that was a different show, but that's the only, that's
01:58:36.280 the only thing I could think of as to how this dude was making, it was like his voice of
01:58:41.200 suffering, another voice of like an antagonistic, almost feminine.
01:58:46.300 Like I would liken it to like a witch dude.
01:58:47.980 Like it sounded like this, like, like, uh, the exorcist when she would speak in that,
01:58:53.460 that gravelly, like, ah, your mother, you know, like that kind of voice.
01:58:56.420 And then this other voice that was very much like a beast, like an animal, like guttural
01:59:02.580 growling, no words, just great.
01:59:04.480 And the other ones.
01:59:05.260 And they listened to this shit in my house.
01:59:07.960 I said, no, we have to at least go outside of my house.
01:59:10.480 I'm not listening to this inside, outside of the door.
01:59:12.980 We leave this portal, close this door and then, and still too close.
01:59:17.420 I did not like that at all.
01:59:19.120 But I could tell, like, when I was like, let's listen to this, like, you know, uh, I, I didn't
01:59:23.740 know top well enough, but I can still pick up on like, did he just flinch at the idea
01:59:28.860 of like, he didn't verbalize it, but he was like, you know, like, and I was like, let's
01:59:34.340 go on it.
01:59:34.840 You want to go on the porch?
01:59:35.720 And he's like, let's go on the porch and listen to it.
01:59:37.320 And I was like, this is, it was just my first introduction to like a dude who I'm like, this
01:59:41.520 guy is in the trenches, swinging broad swords and laughing as he's covered in the blood
01:59:46.240 of sissies.
01:59:46.860 And like all of a sudden now it's like, we got to go on the porch.
01:59:50.420 All this political stuff, all the Twitter stuff, this is all people.
01:59:53.140 And this is all stupid and it's fun.
01:59:54.920 It's entertainment.
01:59:55.900 The spiritual stuff is where I'm like, okay, like, like you'll, if you come across my Twitter
02:00:01.260 or even me in real life, I'm very like, I'm going to make jokes about everything and
02:00:04.900 anything.
02:00:05.240 I don't care.
02:00:06.320 There's no limit.
02:00:06.980 But once we get to this part, I'm like, okay, have a seat and let's, uh, let's really
02:00:12.220 talk about what's going on here.
02:00:13.380 And it kind of, I guess it takes people off guard, but it's the only thing that really
02:00:17.480 matters very much off guard.
02:00:19.880 Yeah.
02:00:20.220 You're the one who told us that time to get serious when the spiritual stuff hits the fan
02:00:27.260 time to get serious.
02:00:28.640 Yeah.
02:00:29.040 I mean, like, and that just takes a, I think people like us, you know, for me, I mean, like
02:00:35.680 I, I don't live my life for this one.
02:00:39.260 I live for the next one.
02:00:40.400 So, uh, everything that I do has spiritual ramifications, good and bad, and I'm not perfect.
02:00:46.860 And I do things all the time that make ripple effects in the bad, bad direction.
02:00:51.560 And it pisses me off every time I do it.
02:00:54.180 Uh, but when I'm conscious in the moment to make sure I step through the portal onto the
02:00:58.880 porch, that's what I'm going to do for the betterment of the spiritual beings of the people
02:01:02.560 in my house and things like that, um, you know, like I think, I don't think, I don't
02:01:08.000 think we even comprehend the impact that we have on the kids that are underneath us.
02:01:12.300 Um, and we, and we mess up all the time.
02:01:15.140 Um, so yeah, it's, it's a, it's a very, the spiritual side of things is so real, uh, that
02:01:21.040 I guess in a way you can just look at everything else and be like, I don't care.
02:01:24.120 It's all a joke.
02:01:24.920 Um, but yeah, guys, I mean, I, I, I think that we're living in some really bizarre times.
02:01:32.820 I think that, uh, the Nephilim might be returning and, um, I don't know what that's going to
02:01:40.680 look like totally.
02:01:42.120 And it excites me.
02:01:43.840 It gets me.
02:01:44.860 I was going to say, and I'm pumped.
02:01:46.340 I'm hype.
02:01:47.680 I, I, it just, it's, it's so exciting.
02:01:50.540 Um, and, and, and not in a way that of like, I, I, I want to meet them.
02:01:55.440 It's, it's in a way of like, oh, this battle.
02:01:59.580 Yeah.
02:01:59.980 It's like, it's like, oh, this chapter starting now.
02:02:02.900 Okay.
02:02:03.700 Okay.
02:02:04.100 This chapter starting now, I know where this is going and, oh, I can't, I, I'm going to
02:02:10.260 be look, okay, where's he coming?
02:02:11.960 Where is he at?
02:02:12.840 You know?
02:02:13.180 Cause like, I'm like, okay, I know where this is going.
02:02:16.220 Um, and so that's what I mean by it's exciting.
02:02:18.560 Uh, because it's just like, you know, we, we, we see, we've said, we've seen it in
02:02:25.340 throughout the scripture.
02:02:26.960 We've talked about it all these, all these years and we're starting to see things unfold.
02:02:32.060 And it's just like, man, like you never really think it's going to happen in your lifetime.
02:02:36.080 Right.
02:02:36.880 Why our lifetime?
02:02:38.040 That's exactly.
02:02:38.900 And that's, well, that's the thing.
02:02:40.100 Like, like everybody, so like, so like growing up, it's like every generation is like, oh,
02:02:45.240 God's coming back in our lifetime, this, that, and the other.
02:02:47.180 And you're in, in, in your youth, you're like, yeah, okay.
02:02:50.280 Everybody always says that.
02:02:51.780 And now for the first time in my life, I'm like, I could see that happening.
02:02:56.940 Actually.
02:02:57.760 I could actually, well, you know what?
02:02:59.200 They didn't have Nephilim coming through portals in Miami mall.
02:03:02.920 I mean, we have all the good stuff.
02:03:04.500 And what I have to say to the people who expected it to come all those years is, ha ha.
02:03:09.800 We're the ones that get all the cool shit.
02:03:11.660 It's crazy.
02:03:12.480 You complainers.
02:03:14.120 The more this goes on, the more I'm emboldened, right?
02:03:17.300 The more we go down this path of like, oh my God, this is spiritual warfare.
02:03:21.580 This is all biblical.
02:03:22.960 I'm like, thank God.
02:03:25.040 Thank God.
02:03:25.680 This is all biblical.
02:03:26.680 Thank God that this is all real.
02:03:28.180 That's the way I feel.
02:03:29.060 That's every time another step is taken, I feel better about it.
02:03:32.300 And you can be blackpilled and you can see all this stuff and you can get upset about
02:03:35.200 the direction that the world is going.
02:03:36.480 As soon as you plug in the biblical lens, you're suddenly not blackpilled anymore.
02:03:40.460 You're more like, thank God.
02:03:42.160 You're at peace.
02:03:42.520 Because this is all real.
02:03:43.980 Exactly.
02:03:44.640 You know how it ends.
02:03:45.900 Yeah.
02:03:46.240 Like you're at peace.
02:03:47.300 As soon as you see it and you know what side you're on, you're like, it's overwhelming.
02:03:57.280 And that's why maybe I can say, oh, I'm here for it.
02:04:00.160 Because I already know.
02:04:02.740 I already know what side I'm on.
02:04:04.140 I already accepted the fact that one day this guy is going to die.
02:04:07.480 Like I'm dying.
02:04:08.600 Every day I'm dying.
02:04:10.480 And that's why I said, I'm not living for this life.
02:04:13.640 I'm living for the next one.
02:04:15.520 Like I don't, whether it's a nephilim coming through a portal and biting my head off, or
02:04:22.600 I die from cancer at 65 because I smoked cigarettes like a chimney driving truck.
02:04:27.600 Like I'm going to die.
02:04:29.620 And the final destination is the same no matter how I die.
02:04:36.220 And so like, I'm so much at peace with it.
02:04:40.840 When you come to realization and you're like, wow, the nephilim are returning.
02:04:46.560 It's just like, oh, well, you know, I'm at peace with it.
02:04:50.240 It's a Jerry Marzinski idea of taking agency of your own life.
02:04:53.960 Like the people that suffer with schizophrenia and don't understand that it is entities,
02:04:59.140 the schizophrenia will get worse.
02:05:00.420 They'll spiral and it'll lead to their, he actually, an interesting statistic, psychoanalysis
02:05:06.080 or psychologists like him and the schizophrenic patients have similar statistics for suicide.
02:05:11.980 Um, that's where it leads to, but, uh, yeah, once, once you realize, once you're aware
02:05:17.120 and you're able to take inventory and take account of yourself, you have that agency now
02:05:21.820 where it's like, well, now, now I can actually be proactive.
02:05:25.160 Even though, you know, if nephilim come to my property, I'm like shooting with an AR, like
02:05:29.420 it might not be, but it gives me peace.
02:05:32.080 You can try.
02:05:33.000 We need, we need like that sword that, uh, you know, that they use to cut off Goliath's
02:05:36.620 head.
02:05:36.760 You need nephilim technology, but shout out to, to rife technology.
02:05:40.000 Cause we're, we might have a direct energy weapon.
02:05:43.060 I just want to say, man, if it's going to be nephilim, please at least let, and, and
02:05:47.940 as nephilim death squad, I would like a joint, like, please let us take one out, just one
02:05:52.900 out on our way, just, just to have that moment on the wall.
02:05:56.340 That's it.
02:05:57.060 Because if not, then the, the, the, the name means nothing.
02:05:59.360 Uh, look, speaking of dying, I know Tony has got the flu or something.
02:06:03.140 He doesn't know.
02:06:03.580 He doesn't go to doctors.
02:06:04.340 He has no idea what he has.
02:06:05.560 Um, so I want to respect his time.
02:06:07.300 Tony, thank you so much, dude.
02:06:08.960 This has been like genuinely awesome, uh, awesome conversation.
02:06:12.820 And, uh, I just, you know, you kind of were the spark for the inception of this show.
02:06:18.320 And so we've come full circle.
02:06:20.940 Well, Tony, before we go, let him know.
02:06:23.520 So I'm sorry.
02:06:24.180 I keep interrupting.
02:06:24.900 Go Tony.
02:06:25.320 Go.
02:06:25.480 I just, no, I was just going to say, I appreciate you guys inviting me on the show.
02:06:30.620 And I think it's crazy that, that my show, uh, the way this show started, I think it's,
02:06:36.480 it's crazy.
02:06:37.080 And I think you guys give me too much credit for stuff.
02:06:39.280 I just, I just sit behind a microphone, talk to people and talk out loud, you know?
02:06:43.820 Um, but, uh, I appreciate you guys bringing me on and I wish I, I don't know.
02:06:49.340 I hope I, I hope I did good for you is cause I, I feel like being sick, I, I, I, I wasn't
02:06:54.760 able to hit a grand slam or something, but hopefully I did.
02:06:57.840 Okay.
02:06:58.280 I tried.
02:06:59.040 I hit multiple grand slams, dude.
02:07:00.500 You crushed.
02:07:00.940 Fully invigorated.
02:07:01.860 I loved it.
02:07:02.500 Um, before you go, tell them where they could find you.
02:07:05.280 And if you, if you would, we've never done this before, but leave us out on a, on a prayer
02:07:10.840 on the way out, because I feel like that's pretty important.
02:07:13.500 Haven't seen it.
02:07:14.240 I don't even care if people think this is a Christian show.
02:07:16.060 I already told you what I think about my fans.
02:07:18.480 If, if you would, Tony.
02:07:21.160 Yeah, no problem.
02:07:22.180 That's fine with me.
02:07:22.840 That's actually, I think might be the first time that somebody has asked me for that,
02:07:25.160 but that's cool.
02:07:25.900 I like that.
02:07:26.360 Um, yeah, you can find me the confessionals podcast.com, uh, on anything.
02:07:32.500 Podcast playing app.
02:07:33.800 Uh, that's the genesis of what people know me from.
02:07:36.740 Uh, I am trying to, um, enthusiastically and entrepreneurially, uh, move Merkle media in
02:07:46.560 the direction of the, the next level of everything.
02:07:49.980 And so we're trying to make documentary, we are making documentaries and we are making
02:07:54.800 movies.
02:07:55.640 Uh, and I'm, I'm trying to work out, you know, the best way to bring more and more
02:08:02.220 podcasts onto the scene.
02:08:04.160 That makes sense for everybody.
02:08:05.380 That's the biggest thing.
02:08:07.040 Um, but, uh, yeah, I'm just trying to create stuff.
02:08:11.040 So I'm a big, uh, Tim pool fan.
02:08:13.200 I, I enjoy, uh, watching Tim pool a lot.
02:08:16.600 Actually, I respect the guy a ton.
02:08:19.060 Um, and he always talks about, uh, changing culture and moving culture.
02:08:24.880 And when, when he started talking about that stuff and doing what he's doing, I was like,
02:08:33.400 well, I'm not Tim pool, but I have a little, little podcast and a little media company.
02:08:40.180 Let me try.
02:08:40.820 So I'm sorry.
02:08:43.160 I'm losing it for a second.
02:08:43.980 Give me a second here.
02:08:44.740 Um, some water, dude, if I might interject, I do know Tim pool, I do respect him for what
02:08:52.220 he's built, but I think you're, uh, as far as moving culture, um, he's not a culture mover.
02:08:58.420 He's a, he's something else.
02:09:00.380 He's a big, great business dude, but you're doing it right from my vantage point, from my
02:09:04.680 perspective, keep doing what I wouldn't, as somebody who's been listening to Tim pool,
02:09:09.340 I don't look at you as being not in that situation at all.
02:09:14.120 Yeah.
02:09:14.680 Well, I appreciate that.
02:09:15.720 I, um, I've been to Tim pool's, uh, castle a few times now, and I'll be going back a few
02:09:21.700 times this year for different things, mainly whenever we drop a film to do pop culture
02:09:25.960 crisis, I imagine.
02:09:27.460 Um, but I, I got, I personally have a lot of respect for the guy.
02:09:30.860 Um, I like him a lot.
02:09:33.420 And so when he started doing that and talking about that and stuff, I was like, let me try.
02:09:37.160 And so I appreciate you guys saying that though.
02:09:38.980 Um, even though you're just saying that, you know, no, I'm not, um, I don't say anything.
02:09:43.140 I don't mean Tony.
02:09:44.080 That's true.
02:09:44.880 I, I do, I do know that.
02:09:46.520 Uh, but, uh, all right, let's, let's wrap this thing up and, uh, lead us out in a prayer
02:09:51.120 here.
02:09:52.040 Uh, heavenly father, thank you so much for having these guys invite me onto their show and,
02:09:58.320 uh, just have a genuine conversation about whatever we came to our minds, Lord, uh, as per
02:10:05.060 per tradition, that's where you typically move.
02:10:09.220 The most is when you allow us as believers in you just to speak freely and let the Holy
02:10:16.020 Spirit do what the Holy Spirit does.
02:10:18.960 And Lord, I trust that whatever was said today, uh, was done to glorify you in anything that
02:10:26.560 might've been over the line that it was not of you, Lord.
02:10:30.420 I pray that you does delete, delete that from people's memories.
02:10:33.320 So it doesn't do anything, um, of ill will towards you and your kingdom building, Lord.
02:10:39.640 Uh, thank you for the opportunity to speak to their audience.
02:10:43.240 Thank you for these two guys coming and listening to my show and starting their show.
02:10:48.480 Uh, Lord, the ripple effect is astounding.
02:10:52.020 And I pray that those who have planted seeds and through stones in the water that the ripples
02:10:59.220 hit me and started me off on this journey.
02:11:01.780 And now I'm doing the same that they do the same for the next generation, Lord.
02:11:05.660 And that this ripple effect just keeps going further and further out.
02:11:08.740 And that there are shows that are just too many that we can count that we can't even count
02:11:13.360 them all that have, uh, some kind of stemming from shows that came well before me, Lord.
02:11:21.220 I pray that throughout all that, that you're glorified in one way or another, we don't need
02:11:28.480 to do it the way it's always been done.
02:11:30.560 We're learning that, and we're just being open vessels for you, that you come and use
02:11:36.460 us the way you want to use us for the generation that's before us.
02:11:39.660 Now, help us understand the generation that's before us now.
02:11:43.360 And so that we can deeper impact their lives, reach them so that more people can come to
02:11:49.120 you and that ultimately we have an army for those end of days, your name.
02:11:55.480 I pray.
02:11:56.100 Amen.
02:11:57.140 Amen.
02:11:58.160 Tony, I'm going to tell you something right now.
02:12:01.960 I'm not kidding you right at the end there.
02:12:07.680 I, it got, did it look bright on the, I don't know if anybody was watching.
02:12:12.520 I had my head down.
02:12:14.580 Like, I noticed the light fluctuation.
02:12:17.020 Did you notice that?
02:12:18.500 I did notice the light fluctuation.
02:12:20.660 Wow!
02:12:20.740 David, you piece of crap, David, you had your eyes open during the prayer.
02:12:24.240 Incredible.
02:12:25.020 I had my eyes closed, but I could, I could sense that it was getting brighter.
02:12:28.400 I thought my, my, my light was.
02:12:30.240 Hey, let's look at the chat.
02:12:31.200 Did they see that?
02:12:31.880 Did anybody see that?
02:12:34.380 That's incredible.
02:12:35.380 I kind of, I kind of, I kind of wrapped it up because I wanted to see, like, I, I got
02:12:40.300 shivers.
02:12:41.420 Like, I thought it was my light.
02:12:42.940 I thought my light was getting screwed up.
02:12:44.880 I got shivers because I was like, oh my gosh, there's an angel in my presence.
02:12:48.420 Like, I literally, it got, like, my eyes are closed and it got so bright behind my eyelids.
02:12:57.360 I was like, there's something lighting up the room right now.
02:13:00.660 Wow.
02:13:01.000 Oh, that's so wild.
02:13:02.260 That's so wild.
02:13:03.620 Wow.
02:13:03.920 That's incredible.
02:13:04.480 Wow.
02:13:06.120 Oh, I don't even know how to, I don't know how to end this.
02:13:08.560 I had, I, I don't know.
02:13:10.060 I don't know.
02:13:10.720 I don't know if it matters.
02:13:11.580 I thought you had that experience too, because that, I was like, I wanted to, like, I wanted
02:13:15.860 to wrap it up, open my eyes and be like, what's up, Michael?
02:13:19.700 You know, this is my, my, my thought process was my light is doing a thing.
02:13:25.320 And then I kind of, man, I don't even want to say, I know we say crazy shit on this show
02:13:29.620 all the time, but I felt like my face, I felt like I was going to be touched on my
02:13:33.760 face.
02:13:35.000 Whoa.
02:13:35.940 Like I, I, it shivered me to the point that I was nervous.
02:13:40.440 I was nervous.
02:13:41.760 I, I, I was, wow.
02:13:45.320 Man, that's wild.
02:13:48.220 All right, guys.
02:13:48.880 Thanks for listening.
02:13:50.120 Yeah.
02:13:50.860 We'll see.
02:13:51.620 I guess we'll see you next week.
02:13:54.680 Thank you, Tony.
02:13:55.600 See you guys.
02:13:56.180 The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.
02:14:02.720 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.
02:14:06.480 It's human persuasion that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see.
02:14:11.380 Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's
02:14:18.560 happening.
02:14:19.440 And they have.
02:14:20.300 you