Nephilim Death Squad - 031： Were Some of the Nephilim GOOD？ w⧸ Joel Thomas

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00:02:24.900 We are being hypnotized by people like this.

00:02:30.660 News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

00:02:35.180 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:02:44.040 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely evil.

00:02:50.120 Oh, yeah, dude.

00:02:51.460 There's some Nephilim shit.

00:02:52.660 It's like we all know what's going down.

00:02:54.960 We know I'm saying shit what happened to the home of the brave.

00:02:58.460 Because they're controlling this now.

00:03:00.160 And no one's talking about how they made us try to be slaves.

00:03:03.300 And everybody's just walking around.

00:03:05.400 Out in the clouds, I want to wake up to a dead in the grave.

00:03:08.500 But then it's too late.

00:03:09.480 We need to be ready to raise up.

00:03:11.320 Welcome to the end of the day.

00:03:13.060 Everybody is slave.

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00:03:15.400 Welcome back to Nephilim Death Squad.

00:03:20.040 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.

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00:04:15.300 All right, guys.

00:04:16.340 I am really excited to have today's guest all the way back from like episode number two.

00:04:22.260 I want to say it's like episode number two or episode number four.

00:04:24.780 We came out of the gate with bangers.

00:04:26.740 We secured Joel Thomas.

00:04:28.020 The first time he came on, I was like, why is he coming on this show?

00:04:30.740 And now that he's coming on, I'm like, I feel like we built something sort of respectable enough to have Joel on to give us knowledge.

00:04:37.120 So thank you for coming.

00:04:39.040 Please tell the people where they can find you.

00:04:41.200 No, I love working with you guys.

00:04:43.360 And I know you've worked with Tony several times, too.

00:04:45.920 So, you know, you guys got a good thing going here.

00:04:49.160 And generally speaking, you know, when people reach out and even if it's a new podcast or it's an offshoot of a bigger podcast and it's a new podcast from that or whatever, you know, I try to work with anybody if possible.

00:05:02.420 Man, you know, I think that one thing in this community that we see a lot of and really anything in life, any kind of business is a bunch of gatekeepers trying to gatekeep people from getting to this person or working with this person.

00:05:14.720 And, you know, I'm just not about that.

00:05:17.140 I really just want to, you know, share knowledge as much as possible.

00:05:22.600 And hopefully that's what we can do here today.

00:05:25.180 Also, did you guys have like a parasite ad to start this out?

00:05:29.860 I got something funny about parasites, by the way.

00:05:32.320 I don't know if you guys have heard this.

00:05:34.160 So my family, we like cats.

00:05:36.800 We just got a new kitten and my girl's sister got up in arms about it and said that the reason why we got a cat was because we have parasites inside of us that lure us to buy cats.

00:05:51.060 It's doing something to our brains.

00:05:52.560 Toxoplasmosis.

00:05:52.980 You have toxoplasmosis.

00:05:53.780 David has it too.

00:05:55.060 David has toxoplasmosis.

00:05:55.780 He's got it bad.

00:05:57.140 My cat is right there.

00:05:58.620 I'm looking at my – I love my cat.

00:06:00.380 My cat is the shit.

00:06:01.400 I don't even care.

00:06:02.600 I'll risk the whole show for her crawling across the keyboard.

00:06:05.380 That's how much I love this cat.

00:06:06.960 We were at the sponsor's house for suddenly the people that own that company and we were just hanging out with them and talking.

00:06:12.580 I was like, let's make a good impression, David.

00:06:14.620 Like, have a – put a button up.

00:06:16.460 Like, look presentable.

00:06:18.660 And we're talking and then like the cat walks by and he goes, oh my God, a cat.

00:06:22.440 And he literally gets up and leaves.

00:06:23.860 And I was like, what's going on right now?

00:06:27.140 And then I figured it out.

00:06:29.020 Toxoplasmosis.

00:06:29.540 So both of you guys got it.

00:06:30.840 Perfect.

00:06:32.080 Yeah, man.

00:06:32.980 I think it's actually a load of BS.

00:06:35.020 Yeah, so that's my personal opinion on that.

00:06:37.740 Yeah, it's ridiculous.

00:06:38.720 You know who's pushing that, dude?

00:06:40.000 That's the – the dog industry is pushing that.

00:06:42.920 That's what's happening here.

00:06:43.940 Big dog is pushing toxoplasmosis.

00:06:46.140 It's not real, bro.

00:06:47.280 All right?

00:06:47.760 I just love my cat.

00:06:49.040 It's a good cat.

00:06:50.000 All right?

00:06:50.220 It doesn't need anything from me.

00:06:51.600 I pet it.

00:06:52.360 We have a good time.

00:06:53.240 And then it goes away.

00:06:54.460 Dogs, very needy.

00:06:55.800 Yeah, it's – and I don't dislike dogs either.

00:06:59.720 I like animals in general.

00:07:01.320 So, you know, I've got a membership to the Cincinnati Zoo, which is always in the top,

00:07:06.060 like three or four in the nation, zoo-wise or whatever.

00:07:08.740 They do a lot of conservation efforts, which I do appreciate.

00:07:11.200 And a lot of the animals that they bring in, the ones that they can re-release,

00:07:14.540 they have a whole re-release program with some of these.

00:07:16.820 So I like going there.

00:07:18.260 So, you know, I've got a thing about apes, man.

00:07:21.400 I love gorillas.

00:07:22.200 So gorillas, I think, are absolutely fascinating to me.

00:07:25.700 And matter of fact, you can't see it because it's way up here.

00:07:28.000 But I've got a picture of myself in a gorilla that I was really close to at the zoo.

00:07:31.960 He died, like, a couple years ago.

00:07:33.640 But he was super cool.

00:07:34.640 He used to come up, hang out with me at the glass.

00:07:36.760 He would touch hands with me.

00:07:38.020 Anytime he saw me, and if I would leave, he would just run off.

00:07:40.820 I don't want to insult you.

00:07:42.140 And this, again, might be the last time he comes on.

00:07:43.860 But you do have, like, these gorilla-like aspects.

00:07:45.920 He's like, I was looking through your Instagram to find a picture for the –

00:07:48.840 and I'm like, this guy's yoked.

00:07:50.340 He's kind of, like, he's standing there, and he's like –

00:07:52.800 Listen, funny that you said that, though.

00:07:56.620 So when I first moved to Cincinnati, the gorilla I became tight with,

00:08:00.420 we were not here for, like, a year.

00:08:02.560 So I show up in this zone because the way they got it set up,

00:08:07.120 there's an outdoor exhibit and then an indoor exhibit with glass.

00:08:11.280 And the glass you can walk right up to.

00:08:13.000 I walk up, and one of his children was, like, doing somersaults next to the glass,

00:08:19.340 and I was, like, walking up.

00:08:20.720 Bro, he came out of nowhere and checked the glass, like, bam, on me,

00:08:24.700 and then flexed on me.

00:08:27.420 And then if I walk –

00:08:27.860 So you did it back?

00:08:29.180 Dude, he would walk up and down the glass.

00:08:32.340 If I was walking one end, he would walk and make sure he was in between,

00:08:36.100 like, the rest of the family and me.

00:08:37.680 He did this for, like, almost a year, and then he realized, like,

00:08:41.240 I was, you know, bringing my family and stuff, and he would see them with me.

00:08:44.400 He's like, oh, that's his tribe.

00:08:46.380 Oh, okay, we can be cool.

00:08:47.980 He's not trying to take my tribe.

00:08:49.880 So we did it being really cool.

00:08:51.860 And then he would see me and then come hang out with me, man.

00:08:54.160 Sometimes he would lay down, like, and chill with me.

00:08:56.500 And even people would be like, what is going on with this girl?

00:08:58.400 He really likes you.

00:08:59.100 I was like, man, I don't know.

00:09:00.100 It's just respect at this point, I guess.

00:09:02.320 This is incredible, because I feel like I'm getting to understand Joel Thomas a little bit more.

00:09:08.720 That was a layer that I haven't seen yet, is bonding with the gorilla over time, multiple visits.

00:09:13.900 I go to the zoo, like, once, and I'm like, it was a nice zoo.

00:09:16.820 I'm good.

00:09:17.280 I don't need to.

00:09:18.060 Joel's like, it's Tuesday.

00:09:19.540 It's time to go to the zoo.

00:09:20.700 Like, we got to go back.

00:09:21.640 We got to see the gorillas.

00:09:22.700 I always wonder.

00:09:23.300 When I go there and I see the prices and it's, like, membership, I'm like, who's buying a membership?

00:09:27.100 Like, Joel Thomas is buying a membership.

00:09:28.320 But do you think the gorillas, like, that gorilla was looking at you, like, on some, like, fallen angel stuff?

00:09:34.060 Like, he's like, are they going to come here and bang my woman and then create, like, an entire...

00:09:38.140 Listen, I don't really know.

00:09:40.120 I like that comment.

00:09:41.020 Real recognizes real.

00:09:42.740 I think that's exactly what it was.

00:09:44.240 But funny enough, they have multiple troops that they rotate in and out of the outdoor and the indoor.

00:09:50.060 So there'll be always the troop outside as there's a troop inside and they rotate.

00:09:53.500 There's always, like, three troops that they rotate.

00:09:55.540 I ended up being coming cool with all the males.

00:09:58.280 Like, the males that were running these troops, they would all come and hang out with me.

00:10:01.640 I don't know what it was.

00:10:03.200 They would spot me in the middle of a crowd of, like, 40 people.

00:10:06.500 And if I walk up to the glass, they would come specifically for me.

00:10:09.500 And then as soon as I would leave, they would just leave everybody else.

00:10:12.100 Like, nah, I'm not cool with any of you and just leave.

00:10:14.220 All the time.

00:10:15.180 It's so crazy.

00:10:16.320 And now I got super excited a year ago because we just moved in a troop of all male gorillas.

00:10:21.600 They're all brothers.

00:10:22.420 It's three of them.

00:10:23.160 So I'm like, bro, like, I'm about to, like, yes!

00:10:27.800 I can pump, dude.

00:10:29.260 I love this.

00:10:29.640 So this is, this is actually perfect because.

00:10:32.640 Joel, I mean, and so you love the zoo.

00:10:35.180 We're about five years off from, like, us possibly capturing some kind of interdimensional cryptid

00:10:40.860 and creating, like, a cage that will contain their interdimensional properties inside of a zoo.

00:10:46.080 Would you then go to see that?

00:10:48.080 Like, would you go to see, like, Dogman inside of, like, this crazy cube?

00:10:52.740 I don't know.

00:10:53.500 First off, I think they got the technology and they've already done it.

00:10:55.960 They just ain't showed us yet.

00:10:57.380 So there's that.

00:10:59.080 Secondly, I don't know, man.

00:11:00.820 I don't know how I feel about any of that stuff yet because, I mean, I wonder under what conditions, you know.

00:11:07.640 Because there's some zoos out there that are just awful, man.

00:11:09.620 I won't even go to because I know the history and I know what they do, these animals.

00:11:13.700 You know, generally speaking, I like to know that there's, you know, conservation and things moving forward to, you know, help them.

00:11:20.680 Because one thing people don't understand because they think all zoos are bad.

00:11:23.680 Some of these animals can't live in the wild.

00:11:25.380 Some of these animals are actually, like, rescues from, you know, people buying exotic pets because you get a lot of those people that, you know, drug dealers, people that got a lot of money that just want to throw at places.

00:11:35.880 They buy these exotic pets and they can't take care of them or they get loose and they bring them in there.

00:11:40.480 Or there's animals that get hurt.

00:11:41.920 Like, we got a whole bald eagle section where, you know, their wings are hurt.

00:11:46.200 They can't fly.

00:11:46.880 They can't live in the wild.

00:11:47.800 So, they bring them there.

00:11:48.600 They're actually better off there.

00:11:49.920 So, I think there's some of that missing for people who think that all animals are just being, you know.

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00:12:38.180 I don't think that's messed up behind the scenes, and I don't think that's the case at all.

00:12:43.400 But to your point about the interdimensional beings, I don't know, man.

00:12:49.000 It depends on what they are.

00:12:50.080 I mean, are they interdimensional beings that are coming here and acting like they're, oh, I got captured.

00:12:57.260 And then it's, you know, it's like the Roswell incident, right, where, you know, the aliens, you know, two of them died.

00:13:07.580 One of them was hurt, and the other one was hurt, but then the other one died, and the one was in captivity for a year,

00:13:13.320 and they were trying to interrogate it, and then finally after a year, and this is all in Bill Cooper's book, you know, the Pale White Horse,

00:13:20.680 but Bill Cooper basically stated that this alien was like, all right, yeah, I can speak English.

00:13:26.660 Let me go ahead and get to, like, the people you need to talk to, and then we'll broker this deal,

00:13:31.200 which they did on this island with, you know, all these UN powers, and obviously the Catholic Church was there.

00:13:38.420 So, you know, you had this whole brokerage of the deal, which supposedly spawned out of that was the ability for these grays to abduct people with the government knowing it,

00:13:49.620 which that pulls into the Nephilim portal baby theory, which I've talked about before on here, with these, I think that this was all planned.

00:13:58.440 I think the crash was planned.

00:13:59.620 And I think these beings, you know, these meat sacks, like the shells died off, but the Nephilim spirits inside of them left, you know, when this happened.

00:14:09.120 So, I do feel like that this was a plan from the start to trick humanity.

00:14:15.560 Here's what I got to say about governments.

00:14:17.500 You know, we always look at the governments as the big bad and that they're out to get us, and there's some truth to that for sure,

00:14:24.220 but a lot of times they're just as in the dark as we are.

00:14:27.520 They have no idea what's going on, and a lot of them are getting tricked.

00:14:31.180 Unless you're at the top of the, like, close to the top of the pyramid, for lack of better words,

00:14:36.700 you don't really know what's going on.

00:14:38.500 You only know what the person, the set of bricks above you is telling you.

00:14:43.400 So, it's a trickle-down effect.

00:14:44.840 You don't really know.

00:14:45.700 So, if you're in the middle.

00:14:47.620 Have you guys ever seen Cabin in the Woods?

00:14:51.560 Yes.

00:14:52.360 Yes.

00:14:52.760 So, we're talking about, like, you know, entities.

00:14:55.860 Top, I'm sure you haven't seen it.

00:14:56.900 Top does a good job of, like, guarding himself from low vibrational, like, crap.

00:15:01.260 And I don't blame him.

00:15:02.120 It's a good move.

00:15:03.120 But Cabin in the Woods, Top, is this idea that there is a government body that is tasked with appeasing this overarching, like, Cthulhu-esque god,

00:15:15.140 like, kind of like a Lovecraftian old ones or something like that.

00:15:19.660 And the way he appeases it, or this governing body appeases it, is by putting archetype characters through a ceremonial sacrifice.

00:15:30.500 And you have archetypes like the stoner, the athlete, the scarlet, you know, whore, there was another one, the innocent.

00:15:40.340 That was, like, the most important one, the innocent virgin.

00:15:44.000 And basically, the way that they sacrifice them is by releasing these entities entrapped within plexiglass boxes.

00:15:52.640 So you have, like, a dog, man.

00:15:54.280 You have, like, a merman, which I thought was actually a very funny scene.

00:15:59.120 And, guys, this is definitely a spoiler alert, but the movie's been out for a long time.

00:16:03.160 You had sort of a...

00:16:03.480 Behind me of the merman thing.

00:16:05.000 From your overtime of guys, go sub to freaking Tony, man.

00:16:08.260 Oh, yeah.

00:16:09.200 It's worth it.

00:16:10.200 At least if you're just going to do it for at least just one month, just go check out that episode, man.

00:16:13.700 It was insane.

00:16:15.660 Yeah, the merman.

00:16:16.300 That's a wild one, man.

00:16:18.480 I've definitely...

00:16:19.920 They're actually resurfacing more now, these reports of these mermen, recently.

00:16:25.240 And I did talk about, on that overtime, the stuff that's going on down in Puerto Rico off the Bermuda Triangle,

00:16:32.940 where these mermen are coming up on land and they're pulling people, they're pulling livestock, crops,

00:16:39.960 all kind of things they're dragging back into the ocean.

00:16:41.980 And these aren't these beautiful merpeople that you see in these pictures and all that.

00:16:48.280 Not to say that those don't exist, because there are two types of mermen, which is fascinating, too.

00:16:53.000 You've got these sirens, these beautiful, handsome mermen that lure people into the water, lure women, maybe some men, too, like into the water.

00:17:03.600 And then you've got these ugly ones that are just grotesque.

00:17:07.160 But apparently the mermen operate a little bit different than mermaids.

00:17:10.680 When they come on land, their fins can change into legs and they can look more human when they run up on the land.

00:17:19.060 And that's how they can operate really well on land.

00:17:21.420 And when they get back to the water, these fins grow back or however it does, it morphs back.

00:17:28.600 And that's just...

00:17:29.100 But that's just the reports, right?

00:17:30.340 But I do know for a fact in Puerto Rico, this has been going on for a while here in the past couple of years.

00:17:35.940 And people are missing stuff and they're seeing it happen.

00:17:39.200 So it's, you know, there's something to it.

00:17:41.680 And the Bermuda Triangle is more active than ever.

00:17:44.560 And nobody's talking about it because it's such an old school conspiracy.

00:17:49.660 And everybody's forgot about it.

00:17:50.920 And it's like, no, there's like a freaking portal vortex in the middle of that thing down below.

00:17:55.880 What do you make of that video where the guy's on a ship?

00:18:01.100 He's a deckhand on some sort of a rigger.

00:18:04.340 And he's having this experience where paralleling the ship is sort of, it seems like sirens.

00:18:10.000 I don't know if his name was Ryan.

00:18:12.060 It might have been.

00:18:12.820 I think his story was even talked about on Rogan's podcast.

00:18:16.340 I forgot who brought it up.

00:18:18.080 And I think he was actually on Blurry Creatures.

00:18:20.500 He might have been on Blurry Creatures.

00:18:22.040 But either way, really compelling story, right?

00:18:24.920 This dude, he's a deckhand.

00:18:26.860 And in the night, paralleling the ship, all you can see in the video is something keeping pace with the ship.

00:18:33.240 And it's the size of, you know, a man, essentially.

00:18:36.000 But that could easily be some sort of a creature in the water.

00:18:38.600 But either way, it's keeping pace with the ship considerably fast.

00:18:42.480 And the whole time, there is this haunting music happening.

00:18:46.300 It's like echoing across the night of the ocean.

00:18:49.160 The ocean in itself is terrifying at night.

00:18:51.800 But if I, I mean, entrapped on a ship, no place to go.

00:18:55.120 And then there's this added layer of supposedly government officials having landed on the ship.

00:18:59.800 And we're commuting with the captain behind some sort of closed door meeting for a long time.

00:19:05.640 I want to make note of this before I forget, because another Dragon Ball Z reference.

00:19:09.540 Got to do an episode on Dragon Ball Z and the occult findings of it.

00:19:13.120 You just mentioned like the very beautiful merman and then like the beastly looking one.

00:19:17.660 And it reminded me immediately of the guy.

00:19:20.080 Can't remember it from the Namek saga.

00:19:22.340 Very early on, he was like one of the early henchmen.

00:19:25.080 And Vegeta ended up killing him and like dumping him in the river.

00:19:27.840 But he was like beautiful.

00:19:28.920 And then when he powered up, he kind of got this like fish like face.

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00:20:13.900 Was that his name?

00:20:17.520 I think it was Zargon.

00:20:18.340 There was a red one and there was like a blue one.

00:20:19.300 Yeah, but it's like they're very, they're purposeful with where they put this stuff.

00:20:23.500 And Akira Toriyama knew a little bit about Nephilim stuff.

00:20:27.140 I'm like, I'm on to you, man.

00:20:28.580 I'm watching.

00:20:29.000 But that's why the show is so great.

00:20:30.420 Because it kind of taps into this ancient story that in our bones, we know that it's true.

00:20:36.100 So that's like where we're attracted to it immediately.

00:20:38.580 Right, that's what resonates with this.

00:20:40.420 This anime in and of itself, as a, as just a whole, whether you're talking about manga or whatever,

00:20:49.280 is super esoteric in nature, regardless of what route you want to go to.

00:20:54.340 Death Note.

00:20:55.080 I mean, come on.

00:20:55.680 We're talking to Jin, who are, you know, brokering deals with you behind the scenes.

00:21:00.960 I mean, Attack on Titans is literally talking about Nephilim.

00:21:04.760 I mean, come on.

00:21:05.780 It's wild in and of itself.

00:21:08.100 It's Arbon.

00:21:09.220 There he is.

00:21:10.080 It's very Dagon-ish, too, if you want to say as soon, you know, when it's in the fish form.

00:21:16.980 Very fish god-like, Dagon-like, for sure.

00:21:20.720 You're talking about sirens.

00:21:22.900 You know, it made me think about, because sirens can also be fairies or fae folk, because they'll take these forms.

00:21:30.460 And a lot of music and imagery comes out of these entities.

00:21:34.820 And I can tell you, on the last documentary we did, and this isn't giving anything away on the documentary,

00:21:40.460 but there was a point where there was a blue orb dancing behind the truck that I was in with Tony.

00:21:48.260 Tony saw it first.

00:21:49.560 I got out, and I heard a woman singing in the woods trying to lure us out in the woods.

00:21:59.560 And I walked around the corner, and I saw the blue orb dance and then disappear, and then the music stopped.

00:22:08.240 So it was really crazy.

00:22:09.760 At that moment, though, I, like, yelled in the woods.

00:22:12.700 I was like, man, y'all ain't got to try to lure us in.

00:22:14.980 We're coming anyway.

00:22:16.040 We're going to be there.

00:22:17.160 You know that Danny DeVito meme?

00:22:18.740 Where it's like, so anyway, I started blasting.

00:22:20.680 And so you just start shooting in the woods.

00:22:23.220 Yo, how do you rationalize it?

00:22:25.000 Because I know you know a lot about the Bible, and I know that you're a musician.

00:22:29.480 And, like, I'm a musician also, but I don't do as professionally as you do.

00:22:33.280 But when you look into that kind of stuff, are you, like, well-versed on theory, on music theory,

00:22:38.940 or are you just, like, playing notes or, like, go by ear?

00:22:43.860 Ear at this point.

00:22:44.880 I used to play piano growing up.

00:22:47.180 So there was a point where I played piano since I was a kid.

00:22:50.920 But then when I went to high school, my mom made me decide.

00:22:53.880 She said, either you're going to sing or you're going to play piano.

00:22:56.920 Like, she made me do something musically.

00:22:58.580 Like, I was big into sports, and I wanted to play sports, which I did.

00:23:01.260 But she always wanted to make sure that I was, like, doing other things, which I enjoyed.

00:23:06.320 You know, I did really good in drama.

00:23:09.660 I actually had a part of my scholarship in college was acting along with basketball.

00:23:16.060 Music was always a passion of mine.

00:23:18.040 But, you know, I ended up going into chorus and singing and all that in high school.

00:23:24.260 But as far as music theory is, yeah, I understand it.

00:23:27.620 I mean, I'm not going to sit there and break it down to you a million ways and tell you how, you know, all the notes work.

00:23:33.160 I can tell you some.

00:23:34.160 If I'm sitting in front of it, yeah, for sure.

00:23:37.380 One of the interesting things that I kind of reveal with Gary Wayne, you know, like these ancient gods love when you name stuff after them.

00:23:45.920 Yeah.

00:23:46.480 And he was talking about, I forget exactly how it correlates, but, like, the Ionians were worshiping this certain god.

00:23:53.920 And then there were the Phrygians.

00:23:55.460 And I was like, excuse me?

00:23:56.580 Like, say that again?

00:23:57.240 Because those are the modes.

00:23:58.620 You know, like the first major, second minor.

00:24:00.700 So it's like Ionian, Phrygian, Dorian, Lydian, Aeolian.

00:24:05.000 That's like the seventh degree.

00:24:06.220 But they're all named after these tribes that worshipped these certain small G gods, which we're pretty sure are, like, Nephilim.

00:24:14.240 And that goes back to, obviously, the Greek pantheon.

00:24:16.560 So I'm like, oh, that's super interesting because it's so intertwined.

00:24:19.960 The devil is so intertwined with music that when I do dabble in it, when I play in it, I'm like, what am I doing in here, man?

00:24:27.380 I feel like it's a dangerous kind of game.

00:24:30.520 Well, I mean, it's even talked about in Isaiah that Hillel, when he walked, that music came out of his body.

00:24:37.160 So he basically was music.

00:24:39.440 So when he left God and became a bad and a snake, Satan, he took that with him.

00:24:46.580 So part of the corruption was corrupting music.

00:24:49.200 Now, there is a thought pattern, and I hold this thought pattern, and I know some theologians that can break it down a little bit better than me as far as this goes.

00:24:59.660 But the thought pattern is when it comes to technology in general, a lot of it was taught to us by fallen entities.

00:25:07.720 It's just part of the brokerage from Mount Hermon, when the fallen angels came down, had sex with women, however you want to say that was, right, whether it was interdimensionally or there in flesh, then created these Nephilim.

00:25:23.900 Part of the brokerage, which I also think happened in Roswell, we brought that up earlier, part of the brokerage was giving us access to all of these advancements and all this technology for the women.

00:25:36.500 So you look at these brokerages that happened throughout, I do think that a lot of technology has come, at least initially, from fallen entities.

00:25:47.260 But does that mean that when we're using this technology or using these things that we're worshiping these entities?

00:25:53.860 I don't think so, because I think that when Christ came and wiped the slate clean, when he told us that, you know, if we accept him, that we are, you know, free and clear.

00:26:07.900 At that point, I don't think that that's how that works.

00:26:11.260 At the end of the day, there are things that have been disrupted throughout.

00:26:17.220 Pagan holidays are generally Christian holidays now or vice versa.

00:26:22.160 You know, I find it funny that Christmas started out as a pagan holiday, but became something throughout the church that we use to represent Christ's birth.

00:26:32.360 On the flip side, Halloween was all saints day, which was actually a Christian holiday that was repurposed as a satanic pagan holiday.

00:26:41.880 It didn't start out pagan.

00:26:43.160 So if you look at all of these different holidays throughout, you can track them back either way.

00:26:47.880 I think, though, that God finds a way to repurpose it and take it over to where those things can still be used for good.

00:26:58.900 Dude, listen, we're holding portals in our hands every day.

00:27:02.640 You know what I mean?

00:27:03.400 Like these are these are given to us by fallen entities in some form or fashion.

00:27:08.240 We're holding them.

00:27:09.080 We're using this all the time.

00:27:10.240 Any piece of technology we're we're on laptops right now.

00:27:13.420 We're we're using if we get to the point to where we're not going to do just might as well live in the woods by yourself, never speak to anybody again and never interact.

00:27:24.560 I don't think that's the way that God wanted us to live.

00:27:27.060 So I don't think it operates that way.

00:27:29.120 And when it comes to music, man, I think it comes from what comes from your heart when you're making it.

00:27:34.320 I don't think it has anything to do with what it sounds like.

00:27:38.380 Dude, I grew up in an era where like hip hop was the devil's music.

00:27:42.620 Like you couldn't do it because the beat came from demonic African tribes that were conjuring these old gods in Africa.

00:27:50.380 That's what I heard, you know, coming out of it.

00:27:52.680 I don't agree with that, though.

00:27:54.000 Like, I don't think that's the case, especially now.

00:27:55.860 Most people don't think that at all anymore.

00:27:57.680 People thought that about rock, too, man.

00:27:59.240 Rock was you don't think that now.

00:28:02.060 You saying do I think that now?

00:28:03.860 You don't think that now?

00:28:05.300 Boy, no, I don't.

00:28:06.720 I don't think I don't think I don't think that hip hop as a whole is considered satanic music.

00:28:14.660 I don't think you can do that.

00:28:15.660 I don't think it's possible because I've seen too many artists that are using it for good.

00:28:20.120 Matter of fact, if you track hip hop back, though, to its origins of what it really was doing, hip hop itself was meant to uplift the community.

00:28:28.860 You look at the switch, though, was the late 80s into the early 90s when NWA came along and a lot of these gangster rap groups came out.

00:28:38.780 They wiped out guys like Public Enemy and and Run DMC and a lot of these guys who were bringing a positive message.

00:28:45.920 So I think that was a lot of the problem that the CIA three letter agencies infiltrated.

00:28:53.040 And listen, I'm not saying that NWA or some of these groups were actively working with these guys.

00:28:59.300 They could have been.

00:28:59.920 I don't know.

00:29:00.440 But I'm just saying that in some form or fashion, the industry is controlled by these three other agencies that want to repurpose these communities and keep them in the prisons.

00:29:15.880 That's what they want to do.

00:29:16.800 They want to fill the prisons.

00:29:17.840 That would have been the same time that the prison industrial complex started getting federal funding based on per capita, how many people they had within the prisons.

00:29:24.900 And those executives from those prisons actually collaborated with various executives from the music industry and started to create these sort of behind door backroom deals where if you get your artists to push a certain message that, yeah, in the long run is going to end up filling our prisons.

00:29:42.680 And when that happens, they were essentially just promised a percentage of that federal funding.

00:29:47.980 It was a really simple deal, right?

00:29:50.000 It's like, hey, get your people to make this music and it's going to fill the prisons.

00:29:53.840 You fill the prisons, we get more federal funding.

00:29:56.160 And if that happens, you get a cut of it.

00:29:57.700 It's real simple stuff.

00:29:59.120 Like, I mean, it's not people think that it's conspiracy theory, but it's business, unfortunately.

00:30:04.060 It's all kind of lined up.

00:30:05.380 I mean, it is business, but see, I come from like a libertarian background, so I do understand like the economics of it.

00:30:10.860 But it kind of all lines up some kind of end time prophecy where you need this destabilization of America, the values of America, the family in order for whatever is to come next to happen.

00:30:23.180 Because you can't bring upon end times if you have like a strong family union.

00:30:27.720 You look at what's happening right now.

00:30:29.960 Look at society and you go, yeah, people are ripe for it.

00:30:32.320 They're ready for, you know, a fake alien invasion or they're ready for some kind of messiah to come.

00:30:38.260 They're ready for whatever you're ready to give them, especially after COVID.

00:30:41.380 So in my opinion, it's like it's all like drops in the bucket.

00:30:44.700 But I also didn't mean to be a Luddite and say like, oh, music, oh, terrifying.

00:30:48.320 I just meant that like when I dabble in it, I'm aware that and I don't I don't think that music came from the fallen.

00:30:57.640 This stuff comes from God.

00:30:59.240 The fallen learned it and then they taught it again as if it corrupted it.

00:31:03.280 If they corrupted it, anything.

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00:31:14.820 You know, alchemy, I use the word alchemy loosely and most people hate it, especially in Christian circles when I use it in a positive way.

00:31:28.300 And now I'm not talking about the alchemy that was taught to the sons of men from these fallen entities.

00:31:36.080 I'm not talking about that.

00:31:37.400 I'm using it as a term of something we don't understand that ancient man did understand.

00:31:42.840 And I think that there was this connectivity to God that we would consider magic now that early man had that was also corrupted by the enemy.

00:31:52.360 So the enemy corrupts it, teaches people a way to use it in a very corrupted format.

00:31:58.320 And it's trickled out throughout time.

00:32:00.520 And I think music's one of them.

00:32:01.760 But, dude, we could say any music can be corrupted.

00:32:04.340 There are Christian artists that are working for the enemy that are putting out music,

00:32:08.400 that they're luring people in saying that, oh, this is God's music, but they're doing the exact same thing behind the scenes.

00:32:15.680 They're using it as a tool to manipulate.

00:32:18.580 So, you know, where do we draw the line?

00:32:20.540 And what's, to me, it's what's in the heart and what's coming out on the pages.

00:32:25.960 How is that affecting the people that are listening to it?

00:32:29.140 Is it affecting people in a negative way?

00:32:31.100 If that's the case, then I think that it's definitely, it shouldn't be, you know, listened to.

00:32:37.820 And listen, for the most part, hip-hop now is pretty awful.

00:32:42.060 Like, there's no positive message to it.

00:32:44.280 It's pretty negative.

00:32:45.920 But there are artists that are phenomenal that are in the hip-hop circle that are reaching people,

00:32:51.180 not just from a, you know, a God point of view, but just on a anti-establishment point of view too.

00:32:57.500 And I think that we have to understand that that's also in every music aspect, right?

00:33:03.580 You know, it's easy to listen to Conway Twitty and feel good about yourself and be like,

00:33:09.080 oh, this is some good old boy music or whatever.

00:33:11.420 But Conway Twitty wasn't always talking about the greatest stuff either.

00:33:15.000 He just did it in a smoother way.

00:33:16.580 So I'd say Johnny Cash was the same way, right?

00:33:19.320 We could say these are icons to us, but they were talking about the same stuff.

00:33:23.800 They just might not have been saying some of the most overt, you know, nastiness that you hear in hip-hop.

00:33:32.980 They were saying that that's the thing with music.

00:33:34.960 They're saying some overt, crazy stuff in some of these old songs that you're just kind of like,

00:33:39.780 your parents are snapping their fingers to.

00:33:41.340 But it's like, they were like wizards, dude.

00:33:44.420 I tell this to people.

00:33:45.860 And so I just saw a musician that I think is great.

00:33:48.540 And again, where do I put him spiritually?

00:33:50.420 Who knows?

00:33:50.880 But I understand what he's doing there is, it's almost like this beautiful alchemical trick.

00:33:55.840 Like we're there all in this audience and I can see how he's moving the room with the piano

00:34:01.060 and doing whatever he wants to these people, playing with their emotions,

00:34:04.720 depending on how he's playing these songs.

00:34:07.440 And I'm like, incredible.

00:34:09.040 The guy's manipulating frequency and people are reacting.

00:34:12.380 I can look like, there's a girl crying.

00:34:13.760 I'm like, it's not Michael Jackson.

00:34:14.780 But you look over and it's like, we have to be more aware that these people are,

00:34:19.840 whether they know it or not, they are manipulating like time and space.

00:34:23.480 And they're playing with you.

00:34:26.040 Yeah.

00:34:26.240 And what they're doing with you is...

00:34:27.540 It reminds me of when they had that Taylor Swift concert.

00:34:30.940 And remember, there was like this really viral video that was going around of all these people

00:34:34.620 in the crowd suddenly crying, like these young girls like bursting out into tears at Taylor Swift.

00:34:38.960 It was bizarre.

00:34:39.420 But I have a kind of a question for both of you guys.

00:34:43.520 Since you're both musicians, I'm sure, Joel, you're familiar with everything that's gone on with Kanye.

00:34:52.220 And I go back and forth on him a lot.

00:34:55.220 I think he's a man who's like really torn at times.

00:34:58.220 I think there are times when he's being genuine.

00:35:00.200 I think other times he's, you know, kind of MKUltra'd and slipping back into old programming.

00:35:05.240 I think he's also tortured in the way that they treat him and his relationship with his family.

00:35:09.520 But I would love to know where you guys, because we're talking about gospel.

00:35:13.100 And I think it was very funny, by the way, Top, watching Tower Gang yesterday.

00:35:16.700 And Joel, just so you know, he's got a co-host.

00:35:20.020 Not necessarily...

00:35:21.920 He believes in God.

00:35:23.580 He's coming around.

00:35:24.620 He's on the fence about Jesus Christ.

00:35:26.980 You know, like the whole thing.

00:35:27.940 He's kind of apprehensive.

00:35:29.260 But he ends up sort of accidentally having a mushroom trip.

00:35:32.200 And he needs something.

00:35:34.780 He needs music to soothe him, right?

00:35:36.820 But he...

00:35:37.920 He remembered.

00:35:38.760 He watched our show.

00:35:39.980 And he like makes fun of us.

00:35:40.960 But he's actually a big player in this game.

00:35:43.260 He's on a show with Luke Rutkowski.

00:35:45.740 And he's always on TimCast and all this stuff and doing...

00:35:48.080 He's running for vice president of the Libertarian Party.

00:35:50.340 But he said, I remember watching your dumbass show.

00:35:52.680 And you guys were like, I should call the name of Jesus Christ.

00:35:55.560 So he's like, I was panicking.

00:35:57.380 So that's what I did.

00:35:58.520 And he ends up like turning on gospel music.

00:36:00.320 I was like, I was crying, laughing, listening to the whole experience.

00:36:03.160 Dude, I thought it was the funniest thing.

00:36:05.480 Because he said it like he and I have like a little kind of an adversarial relationship.

00:36:10.540 But he goes, I remember Raven saying, call on the name of Jesus Christ.

00:36:14.060 And so he marches around his complex at three in the morning saying, Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ,

00:36:19.300 Jesus Christ, as he's listening to gospel music.

00:36:21.420 But we're talking about music and the ways in which it could be something that it is something

00:36:30.060 that God created, but the ways in which it's been perverted or inverted, right?

00:36:33.280 And I wonder where you guys place the album, Jesus is King by Kanye West.

00:36:38.640 Because I love that album.

00:36:41.180 There's so many great songs on it.

00:36:42.920 I was running miles the other day listening to it.

00:36:45.740 And I'm like, this is a tremendous album.

00:36:47.100 But then you look at where the man himself, Kanye West, is now, and it's juxtaposed to

00:36:52.780 that album.

00:36:55.260 You know, so I wonder, like, Joel, where do you place that album?

00:37:00.580 I mean, I listened to it.

00:37:02.260 I was always very apprehensive anyway with that album.

00:37:06.300 So for me, it was well produced.

00:37:09.220 It was really good.

00:37:11.600 Just from a music standpoint.

00:37:12.740 I'm not talking about any extracurricular.

00:37:15.860 As far as what I thought about him, I always thought that there was this, there was something

00:37:22.080 holding back, right?

00:37:23.200 It almost feels like he puts this stuff out as some sort of penance, but he's not willing

00:37:27.980 to go all the way.

00:37:29.220 And I think that's where I think he finds himself getting lured back in a lot.

00:37:33.280 Because here's the thing.

00:37:34.400 And there's a moment in the early Gospels, in the New Testament, where a man comes to

00:37:43.160 Jesus and wants to know what he needs to do to get into the kingdom of God.

00:37:49.360 And Jesus tells him to sell everything and follow him.

00:37:52.940 He wouldn't do it.

00:37:53.720 He left.

00:37:54.320 So I think it's very similar with Kanye.

00:37:56.340 I think that he may have met that moment or talked to someone that we don't know about

00:38:02.460 that was basically, you've got to leave this, that you can't be this billionaire who runs

00:38:10.260 in these circles and also do this.

00:38:14.760 Because I feel like that there's a decision that has to be made for him.

00:38:18.900 And I'm not saying for everybody, it's the same decision, but maybe for him, there's

00:38:23.400 a decision.

00:38:23.860 He's got to walk away from some money, walk away from his fame, walk away from, and I

00:38:29.960 don't know if he's willing to go all that way.

00:38:33.340 I think he knows stuff he's done is wrong.

00:38:37.940 And I think he did come from a Christian background, too, so that's tough for him.

00:38:40.900 And I think that's where I was at.

00:38:42.420 When I went down a dark road and I was following this path of Freemasonry and getting deep into

00:38:52.120 where I wanted to go with music, right?

00:38:54.300 There was a certain crossroads that happened, and looking back on it in retrospect now,

00:39:00.180 I know that that was my crossroad.

00:39:02.540 And I didn't even make a decision in that crossroad to follow God in that moment, but

00:39:08.500 it was a decision.

00:39:09.940 It was family or was it going to be money and fame?

00:39:13.380 And I made the decision for family, which also took me down this road to redemption with

00:39:18.120 God.

00:39:18.460 And so I think that that's where maybe he's been a few times.

00:39:24.700 But the good thing is with God, man, he gives you like a thousand billion chances.

00:39:28.860 So it's not like he can't ever turn.

00:39:31.000 It's not that he can't ever make that decision to do what's right.

00:39:34.200 Look at what's happening with you now.

00:39:35.340 I don't want to speak too soon, but because I struggle with this, too.

00:39:40.840 It's the ability to completely surrender, right?

00:39:44.480 We talk about that a lot in Christianity.

00:39:45.900 And for me and for men, that's hard to do.

00:39:48.600 I don't want to talk for everybody.

00:39:49.840 But for me, when you're like, yo, surrender, I'm like, I don't even like that.

00:39:54.460 Like, that's a foreign concept to me.

00:39:56.420 But it's something that you have to do.

00:39:58.680 And like you did that in a certain aspect of your life where you're giving up some kind

00:40:02.500 of fame or fortune and you decided to go the other way.

00:40:05.760 But look, it almost looks like it's coming back to you now.

00:40:08.020 And it looks like it's about to come back to you tenfold from what I'm seeing.

00:40:11.200 And good on you, man.

00:40:12.400 When I see what you're doing and you're linking up with Tony, I'm just like, hell yeah.

00:40:18.320 Because it's such a beautiful thing.

00:40:21.160 And whatever you guys are building over there, we're admiring that.

00:40:25.020 So yeah, it comes back to you.

00:40:26.960 And good on you for doing that.

00:40:28.580 And I guess I need to work on that in my life as well in certain aspects.

00:40:32.560 There's a verse in the Bible, and I don't know it off the top of my head.

00:40:36.480 I was in church like a week or two ago, and the pastor had said it, but it's a, when you

00:40:43.380 have faith and you follow him, he gives you double.

00:40:49.740 Yeah.

00:40:50.820 So it's something to think about, right?

00:40:52.660 It's, it's, and it's also not going to be an easy road, bro.

00:40:55.680 Like it never is.

00:40:56.660 Like it's, it's one of those things where it's just a daily grind sometimes.

00:41:00.620 Sometimes you don't even know how it's going to work out.

00:41:02.180 And you're just, you know, beating your head against the wall and you're like, well, I'm,

00:41:05.440 I'm on the right path, I guess.

00:41:08.200 You know what I mean?

00:41:08.780 And it's just like, you know, it, it, I think people think that it's going to be some easy

00:41:13.240 transition to follow God.

00:41:16.400 And I don't, you know, I'm not here to preach today, but if it happens, it happens.

00:41:20.080 But at the end of the day, I feel like that when you make that decision that you start moving

00:41:25.740 forward and you'll see some big leaps and then you'll see some big walls and, you know, you're

00:41:31.080 struggling with your own family and things are going on personally that suck.

00:41:35.220 And just, you know, you just feel like you get beat down.

00:41:37.220 Sometimes that's the enemy too, man.

00:41:38.840 Like the closer you get to a goal, the more that these, uh, Nephilim spirits and all the

00:41:45.120 like are going to come after you, man.

00:41:46.540 And I, and I told Tony that too, because the stuff we talk about and the people we talk to

00:41:51.840 and the documentaries we put out and everything else, um, hold some sort of gravity because

00:41:56.960 we want to connect with people and help them see some of the things that we see, especially

00:42:02.960 that are going on in the Bible and in the church that aren't talked about.

00:42:06.220 And I think that when you start putting a microscope to them, I think there are entities that don't

00:42:13.620 want you to do that and they don't like it.

00:42:15.960 They don't want it revealed.

00:42:17.560 You know, that's why you got all these different ideologies coming out of the woodwork, the box

00:42:23.420 saga, all these things that are humanistic in nature that are completely, um, anti anything

00:42:32.180 biblical.

00:42:33.600 Um, so it's, it's, it's fascinating that you're seeing a resurgence of even the humanistic

00:42:39.520 stuff, because I saw a huge shift into spiritualism over the past 10 years, regardless of whether

00:42:45.080 it was Christianity or not, at least people were like open the idea that there's a spiritual

00:42:48.800 world, but now you got this other undercurrent flipping back where it's all humanistic.

00:42:53.160 That, you know, there's no such thing as God that, you know, you are God.

00:42:58.520 Well, everything came out of Switzerland and it was white people, you know, box saga.

00:43:03.820 Here's a white pill for that.

00:43:05.500 There's some people like, as you said, the box saga, David laughed because there's some

00:43:09.280 people who are like down our throats about whatever.

00:43:12.740 I don't know.

00:43:13.100 I'm not going to mention their name, um, but they're big box saga.

00:43:16.500 I don't even know what it means.

00:43:17.620 Not even going to look into it.

00:43:18.640 I don't care, but they hate that we revolve our show.

00:43:22.260 Like we say that this show is a conspiracy and cultural events through a Christian lens,

00:43:27.180 through a biblical lens specifically.

00:43:28.820 So we just pick up that and we look at it and things seem to make a lot more sense.

00:43:32.780 And you know what?

00:43:33.640 There's a small community around us for a show that just started.

00:43:36.280 And they, I guess they agree because they keep coming back.

00:43:39.280 They're excited and they're watching all the time.

00:43:41.860 They're like actually, you know, participating with us.

00:43:45.080 Those people don't have that.

00:43:45.760 Right, but that means that we're grifting.

00:43:47.300 That means that we're grifting.

00:43:48.580 That means that we're pandering, like all this shit.

00:43:50.720 It's fucking.

00:43:51.480 What it means is that, what it means is that those people would love that.

00:43:56.280 But the general consensus of people that are listening to this kind of stuff, see them

00:44:00.520 and go gay.

00:44:01.500 And they see this stuff, what we're talking about.

00:44:04.560 There's a reason why Tony's one of the biggest podcasters in this space.

00:44:08.000 There's a reason why Sam Tripoli now believes in God and is following Jesus and doing his

00:44:12.440 best.

00:44:12.720 There's something going on.

00:44:14.240 There's a truth that's there and people are noticing that.

00:44:17.540 And they're flocking to the truth as it's being told.

00:44:21.560 This is the thing.

00:44:22.800 When you start digging into what's happening behind the scenes, something's going to happen

00:44:30.460 to you when you do, because you're going to start noticing this thread of religion.

00:44:36.920 Whether you believe it or not, there are people that believe it and they're acting on

00:44:42.120 what they believe.

00:44:43.200 That's a fact.

00:44:44.220 It's a fact of the matter.

00:44:45.020 There is no reason for everyone in a political or in some sort of celebrity space to be throwing

00:44:55.580 up occult symbolism consistently if they don't believe it.

00:44:59.420 You know, you could say that, oh, these guys are trolling.

00:45:02.000 Maybe there's a small percentage of guys that are doing that just to get clout or whatever

00:45:05.820 you want to call it.

00:45:06.960 But that's not the case with most of these guys.

00:45:13.920 They're doing it because they believe it.

00:45:15.320 You know, I think that it's a good time to sort of pivot to the meat of why we invited

00:45:26.000 you on because you lay out a really compelling set of pieces of evidence that suggests that

00:45:36.100 and maybe this is a good thing to do because the show is called Nephilim Death Squad and

00:45:42.680 we go pretty hard against the Nephilim, their disembodied spirits and their fallen parents.

00:45:49.800 But one can't help the circumstances of their birth, right?

00:45:54.240 I mean, it's not your fault that you were born the way you were born.

00:45:58.320 So maybe there is room for...

00:45:59.780 My favorite Trump tweet.

00:46:00.540 It's like the haters and the losers.

00:46:02.720 They can't help the fact that they were born effed up.

00:46:06.280 Exactly, exactly.

00:46:07.860 And so I think that it's a good time to kind of pivot into this narrative that, Joel, you

00:46:13.820 lay out so well that I think you've kind of started to call the good Nephilim.

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00:47:57.120 Powerful grift.

00:48:01.440 Powerful grift.

00:48:02.020 Terrible grift.

00:48:02.920 I actually wanted to bring up because we were just talking about like sort of like submitting

00:48:08.320 and spiritual warfare and all that.

00:48:09.980 I think we have to do bring up that episode today of Tony Merkel because you've been involved

00:48:16.640 in quite a lot this week, Joel.

00:48:18.440 You've kind of been shaking up the banana tree here.

00:48:20.900 You were sitting in on that episode where the guy just describes Tony's house to him.

00:48:25.960 Like what was going on there, man?

00:48:27.940 Wait, wait, wait.

00:48:28.460 And before we go there, I just want to say, because I know we're not going to talk about

00:48:30.880 it.

00:48:31.100 I want to just say this and I want to put it to bed.

00:48:33.160 I don't like doing this.

00:48:34.360 I don't like doing this because I don't want him to know.

00:48:36.420 I don't think he's in the chat and it's probably for the best.

00:48:38.720 It's probably for the best.

00:48:39.800 And I'm not going to say it again.

00:48:41.340 But you and Juan, as terrible as a human being he is, you guys are a winning team.

00:48:46.380 You guys are a winning team.

00:48:47.340 Because what you do, it's like watching a tag team wrestling group, like go in and

00:48:52.200 just house the crap out of the competition.

00:48:54.680 Like it's impressive, dude.

00:48:56.440 Two people that cannot stand that guy.

00:48:59.340 But yeah.

00:49:00.100 Juan Ayala is the worst human being.

00:49:02.400 He lives on a pontoon in a swamp, but you do great work with him.

00:49:05.740 I think he's nothing without you.

00:49:06.960 All right.

00:49:07.180 But please, let's let's go on.

00:49:10.080 Yeah, Juan's good, dude.

00:49:11.400 We we've been doing a lot together and it was nice to get him in studio with Tony this

00:49:15.980 time and be able to do that.

00:49:17.840 And the overtime was insane.

00:49:19.660 That's where we just really cut loose.

00:49:21.840 You know, we got we got warmed up with the David and Goliath and the technology stuff.

00:49:26.400 And then when we got into the overtime and we just went absolutely balls to the wall.

00:49:30.720 So it was a lot of fun.

00:49:32.480 The fact that we got Tony to throw his headset down and get up and walk off at one point was

00:49:37.620 was great.

00:49:38.200 So if you can get Tony to get up and move or flip out, man, you know, you hear stuff

00:49:44.080 all day.

00:49:44.740 So it's you know, if you could blow Tony's mind, then you're definitely working with something.

00:49:49.260 So, yeah, man, we had we had a blast.

00:49:51.880 And to your point of, you know, the other overtime that just came out today, that was a wild one.

00:49:56.980 And just I can tell you on a confirmation point of view, you know, I've been at Tony's house

00:50:02.920 and the dude ain't lying, bro.

00:50:06.040 Like as far as knowing what it looks like and everything else.

00:50:10.340 So there's there's a lot going on there that he knew and he either had to do have a private

00:50:16.660 investigator or, you know, it definitely came to him in his dreams.

00:50:21.580 And the pictures he sent to are pretty crazy, man.

00:50:24.020 And I looked through him several times.

00:50:26.580 It does look like some sort of like dog head looking behind a tree and the eyes change

00:50:30.920 from white to red, which was another thing that was pretty strange as well.

00:50:35.440 So I saw that photo.

00:50:36.420 Yeah, pretty, pretty strange because you could tell just by looking at whatever it was, it

00:50:40.220 was a completely different texture and makeup than the surrounding trees and foliage like

00:50:44.680 this was something.

00:50:45.900 And then, yeah, its eyes are like changing color through the sequence of photos.

00:50:50.100 Very strange.

00:50:51.420 Yeah.

00:50:51.660 And that was the place that he and his son had had their first dog man experience.

00:50:55.780 So he had had an experience, been chased off by a dog man there.

00:51:01.360 And he went back there with his son.

00:51:03.600 They were doing some treasure hunting because that's what they do.

00:51:05.760 And he just decided to do like a lot of people do take a bunch of pictures of the area just

00:51:11.540 real quick.

00:51:12.300 You never know what you're going to pick up.

00:51:13.660 I do that.

00:51:14.400 But I go in the woods the last time on this last documentary, they sent me off into the

00:51:20.180 Smokies by myself.

00:51:21.400 They put a gimbal.

00:51:22.820 It's like a little gimbal on my shoulder and the camera's behind me and it swivels.

00:51:26.900 So it'll pick up whatever is going on behind me because a lot of these things will pop

00:51:30.400 out behind you and you won't see it.

00:51:32.020 But the camera can pick it up.

00:51:34.000 So it's smart to do stuff like that.

00:51:36.540 And that's how the dude caught it.

00:51:37.580 And that's why you could see the eyes change because it was like click, click, click.

00:51:40.440 So he had done it like three in a row and it was in the same area and he caught the actual

00:51:44.940 eye change to red, which was super weird.

00:51:47.200 So that thing was stalking him.

00:51:50.100 We think maybe, you know what I mean?

00:51:52.440 If it's what it is, you know, if we think that it's an entity that's looking in that picture,

00:51:57.600 we think that it's something to do with that.

00:52:00.520 And we think maybe he was a treasure hunter.

00:52:02.500 So he could have picked something up out there and brought it home and it was connected to

00:52:06.320 some entity in the woods.

00:52:07.780 That's a possibility too.

00:52:09.520 The bloodline, his blood doesn't help either.

00:52:12.320 Like that seems smart.

00:52:13.880 Dude, I called my doctor.

00:52:15.660 I was listening to it and then I went on break and I was like, I don't even know my blood

00:52:19.020 type because I have, you know, my entire life I've had strange paranormal experiences.

00:52:23.000 I've seen things and, you know, my, my grandmother was a clairvoyant, but she was also abducted

00:52:29.180 by aliens from like childhood.

00:52:31.860 It was like something that was consistent throughout her life.

00:52:33.700 And actually I think was probably the main driving force to her drinking heavily and unfortunately

00:52:39.520 passing away very young.

00:52:41.240 But so I, and then my, my mother and my aunt also have things that they see all the time.

00:52:47.040 And so I'm like, oh, I wonder, I called up my doctor.

00:52:49.220 I'm waiting for him to call back, but I think I'm too short.

00:52:51.120 I'm only five, seven.

00:52:51.800 There's no way in hell.

00:52:55.700 Yeah.

00:52:56.060 The Nephilim thing is really interesting and we're going to get into a little bit of that

00:52:59.500 RH negative stuff today for sure.

00:53:02.000 And I know you guys brought me on.

00:53:03.860 You reached out a couple months ago to want to talk about the good Nephilim.

00:53:06.920 So we're going to talk a little bit about good Nephilim.

00:53:09.440 It's something that a lot of guys aren't talking about.

00:53:11.740 Rarely.

00:53:12.400 Gary Wayne's one of the only other ones I've heard talk about it.

00:53:15.680 And matter of fact,

00:53:16.740 Can I just say real quick, Joel, actually your, your whole lead up to this makes a lot

00:53:20.820 of sense because this is a dude who like is connecting emotionally with gorillas on a

00:53:26.240 regular like Tuesday basis.

00:53:28.220 Of course it would be you who finds like the goodness in, you know, what, what many people

00:53:33.760 our audience are like, these are the arch nemesis of mankind.

00:53:37.120 And, and Joel's like, now, wait a second.

00:53:39.360 They're not all bad guys.

00:53:41.260 Yeah.

00:53:41.720 I just think that media shows us a lot of things that are truth in media, right?

00:53:47.020 We look at anime or any kind of, you know, animated shows that come out comics.

00:53:54.800 You know, we look at, you know, movies that come out, superhero movies, all that stuff

00:53:59.500 has the story of redemption and Titans.

00:54:02.640 And I do believe that there's some truth to that.

00:54:06.180 And I started looking into it a little deeper because I was running across some things that

00:54:12.660 just didn't make sense to me because it just, biblically where I'm like, wait a minute.

00:54:17.880 It seems like that might be a hybrid or a giant, but they're working with these Hebrews.

00:54:25.060 They're working with these Israelites.

00:54:27.360 Well, let's look a little deeper and, and see if that's the case.

00:54:32.880 Also, I want to shout out Gary Wayne because I put out that good Nephilim episode and then

00:54:37.600 he had an episode that came out about three weeks later and he, Tony asked him, did he

00:54:43.540 think that they could be redeemed?

00:54:44.680 And he was like, oh yeah, as a matter of fact, there are some in the Bible.

00:54:48.320 So it was nice to have a guy who's done the research for tons of years who I respect to

00:54:54.000 actually solidify that from that point of view, because, you know, when, when you look

00:55:00.660 at a guy who's got multiple books about it and he's breaking it down, it's, it's nice

00:55:05.900 to have that.

00:55:06.500 So I was pretty happy about that.

00:55:07.900 As a matter of fact, I think Juan texted me, he's like, hey man, your, your, your dude,

00:55:11.560 Gary just said that there's good Nephilim.

00:55:13.900 I was like, I've been trying to tell y'all, I was like, they're, they're out there and

00:55:19.060 I think they're out there now.

00:55:20.360 And we'll talk today about, uh, one specific one that I think still out there now.

00:55:25.160 I was thinking about that because, I mean, I watched Game of Thrones and I read all the

00:55:29.080 books and one of the things that comes up in Game of Thrones a lot is the idea of a

00:55:32.820 bastard, right?

00:55:33.500 So like you got Jon Snow is the most notable one, but there's a ton of them in, in the books

00:55:37.680 where they're kind of like behind the scenes.

00:55:39.780 They have this royal bloodline, but do they try to claim it or, or whatever?

00:55:44.880 Um, so I was thinking about, you know, these, these small G gods are basically Kings.

00:55:50.860 They go and they take the woman as wives, but they do whatever they want.

00:55:56.620 Like, were they, were they out raping other women?

00:56:00.060 Were they, I mean, there are there, are there Nephilim out there that we don't know about,

00:56:03.940 like raised by humans because they were kind of, you know what I'm, you know what I'm saying?

00:56:07.580 And I, it gets, that's a little fantasy stuff.

00:56:09.620 But if you're thinking in reality, it's like, why wouldn't that happen?

00:56:13.440 But you're actually on the right track with the King thing.

00:56:15.720 So if you look in Sumerian culture, you look at the King's list, which is a list of Kings

00:56:21.220 starting with Alulim.

00:56:23.340 These Kings were reigning for 35,000 to 25,000 years.

00:56:30.460 Historians can't tell us why they say it's a metaphor.

00:56:33.720 No, it wasn't a metaphor.

00:56:34.720 And I think that these Kings were fallen entities that were reigning over these kingdoms before

00:56:42.240 Adam, before during the first flood, which is old earth.

00:56:46.940 And if anybody wants to know about what I think about old earth, I did do an entire episode

00:56:51.300 with Tony on the confessionals called old earth, uh, Lucifer's domain.

00:56:55.820 So I do talk about how these fallen entities and these angelic kingdoms were before Adam.

00:57:01.540 Um, but we're going to get into some good Nephilim today.

00:57:04.200 And I'll break it down a little bit.

00:57:05.500 So people understand, you know, what these, you know, Nephilim, where they came from, what

00:57:12.760 they are, uh, they really start with the Jaborim, or as some people like to recorrect me and

00:57:20.340 say gibberim, depending on where you are in the world, you can say it either way.

00:57:24.680 It's just like Nephilim, you could say Nephilim, it's the same thing.

00:57:28.820 Uh, the word, uh, Jaborim, it means the mightiest and it stands for, uh, the mighty ones.

00:57:38.100 So we know that from Genesis four, where it talks about the men of old, the men of renown.

00:57:43.280 The word there is Jaborim.

00:57:45.300 It's also used in Joshua as well.

00:57:52.040 So if you know the story about Joshua and the walls of Jericho, it's the same thing.

00:57:57.640 So Joshua goes to this, to Jericho, they need to take Jericho down.

00:58:03.320 Well, there were these Jaborim that lived there.

00:58:06.060 So when they marched around the city of Jericho, uh, and the walls came down, the reason why

00:58:14.940 they needed God to take those walls down was because there were these giants that live in

00:58:19.460 the city. People gloss over that fact a lot, that the entire epic of Moses, when he left

00:58:26.480 the, uh, Egyptians and they were going to the promised land, they were fighting giants along the

00:58:33.300 way. When they got to the promised land, there were giants in the promised land. We know this for

00:58:37.580 a fact too. So we know that the 12 spies went into the promised land. Moses sent them in there.

00:58:44.100 They go check it out. They freak out. 10 of them freak out, except for Joshua and Caleb.

00:58:48.560 They come back to Moses and they said, Hey, we can't go in there. The sons of Anak, the Anakim

00:58:54.080 are in there. These Nephilim are in there. We can't go in there. We can't fight these giants.

00:59:00.900 Joshua and Caleb tell Moses like, no, we got the power of God. We can go and take these giants out.

00:59:05.140 The problem was the 10 got the rest of the nation of Israel, all hype that they couldn't go in there.

00:59:11.640 So they ended up going to the wilderness for 40 years and weren't even allowed to go in the

00:59:16.220 promised land until all those men that were old enough to fight died off. Except Joshua and

00:59:21.740 Caleb actually survived this. And they ended up going back in to the promised land when,

00:59:27.740 you know, basically you've got a whole new group of men that have been raised to go take

00:59:33.040 these Nephilim out.

00:59:37.040 That's such an interesting story. And it's like, it's so right there biblically too. Like you,

00:59:41.740 you read the old Testament, you don't understand. I didn't understand why I was like, well, God was

00:59:45.880 like, kill all these people, you know, don't leave anything living. I was like, that sounds kind of

00:59:51.300 awful. Do I want to really follow this guy? But when you start to open, open it up a little bit

00:59:55.620 more and you're like, Oh, they're not, he changes everything because so much of the narrative is

01:00:00.340 like, Oh, this, this horrible old Testament God. And lately I've been learning, like there was a lot

01:00:07.560 of reasons for the things that were happening. We just don't understand.

01:00:11.500 The other thing is though, too, is that God, and it's not always specified scripturally. And I think

01:00:18.280 this part's glossed over, but you can glean from the stories throughout the old Testament that all

01:00:23.760 God always gives people an opportunity to repent. We don't know how that is. We don't know that moment

01:00:30.360 because the Bible is not talking about every single person that lived on the planet

01:00:33.520 in the annals of time, that it would be too big of a book. So at the end of the day,

01:00:39.640 we don't know that, but we do know that there are stories in the Bible of people who were parts of

01:00:47.440 certain groups that left those groups and turned to God that were allowed to do that. So I do think

01:00:52.860 that, I mean, look at just story of Jonah going to Nineveh. Nineveh worshiped Dagon, which was a fish

01:00:58.660 God, and God sent him there to preach the gospel to give them an opportunity to repent. So we know

01:01:05.240 this happens periodically throughout the Bible. It's not an unknown thing. So I do want to get into

01:01:12.080 some of these giants, the giant tribes in the Bible, and this will get us to this good Nephilim theory.

01:01:19.460 One quick aside. You just mentioned Nineveh. We've got that eclipse coming over like seven Ninevehs

01:01:23.780 across the United States. Very weird stuff, but that's coming soon. So I don't know what that's about.

01:01:28.660 Please continue. Pearl eighth. Yeah.

01:01:33.400 So there are six giant tribes mentioned in the Bible. You get the Raphaim, the lofty men.

01:01:39.100 They lived in an area of ancient Bashan, which Og, we're going to talk a little bit about Og today.

01:01:44.600 He was the king of Bashan. So he was considered a Raphaim, but I do consider the word Raphaim more

01:01:50.600 of an overarching term for these giants after the flood. So you've got this Nephilim, which is the

01:01:57.160 super overarching umbrella, the umbrellas, all of them. But then you've got these giants that come

01:02:03.000 after the flood, which is there's a whole nother rabbit hole on why they come back after this flood

01:02:08.620 apparently wipes most of them off the planet. We could go down that later, but we'll just for

01:02:15.500 sake of time and everything else, these giants come back. You got the Raphaim. Now you got the Zuzene,

01:02:21.560 Zuzene, which dwelt north of the Arnon River. They were considered the tall ones. You got the

01:02:25.720 Emene, the terrible ones. They dwelt on the east side of the Dead Sea. You got the Horeen. They were

01:02:30.740 the cave dwellers. And you'll find out a lot of giants, you know, live in caves or set up shopping

01:02:37.920 caves. I think there's a lot of Nephilim in caves now. And we do know, even from the giant of Kandahar

01:02:42.660 story, there's a lot of stories of giants coming out of caves. So the Horeen though, that group of giants

01:02:48.420 were just basically cave dwellers. You got the Avim. They dwelled among the ruins in Israel. And

01:02:57.160 then you got the Anakim, which we just talked about, the long neck ones. And they dwelt around

01:03:01.220 the area of Hebron. So these are what you're typically going to see in the Bible. And this

01:03:07.940 is where you're going to start seeing them pop up. You got Genesis 14, 5, and 6. And in the 14th

01:03:12.500 year came Keterliomer and the kings that were with him, and smote the Raphaims and Asheroth,

01:03:17.060 Karnum, and the Zuzims and Ham, and the Emims in Shavacharithium. So you've got where the Bible

01:03:25.120 is starting to talk about these giants all through the Old Testament. Deuteronomy talks about them.

01:03:30.340 Deuteronomy 2.10, the Emims dwelt there in the times past, and a people great and many as tall as

01:03:35.160 the Anakims. So the thought pattern is the Anakims were the tallest of these giants that were after the

01:03:44.420 flood. And those are the ones that are specifically talked about when those 12 spies run into the

01:03:51.520 promised land. And they were gathering intel to bring back to Moses. They ran across these

01:03:56.740 Anakims. In a Hebrew, the words Anaki, which is N-A-A-N-A-Q-I-Y, is translated to Anakims,

01:04:05.420 and it means long necks. Or tall were the sons of Anak. Anak means neck. So this means that they

01:04:11.120 were head and shoulders taller than the tallest of men. So these guys were probably in that 10 to 15

01:04:16.440 foot range easily. These guys were, you know, imagine being an Israelite and you leave Egypt

01:04:22.480 to go to this promised land that's been promised to you, and you walk in and you see these guys that

01:04:27.120 are like 15 to 18 feet tall walking around. You know, the average person will probably get a little

01:04:33.560 worried. If you don't have a trust or faith in God, then you probably are. As a matter of fact,

01:04:37.280 side note, this can also be used as a metaphor to our own personal lives. The giants that we see,

01:04:42.580 the obstacles that we see in our own lives. If we don't have that faith and trust in God,

01:04:47.580 then we're going to end up in a wilderness for a long period of time. You'll find people that are

01:04:50.900 in wildernesses or in turmoil because it's what you said earlier, Top, about surrendering to God.

01:04:56.960 And I think that's that moment where you surrender and you get out of that wilderness. You know

01:05:01.660 what I mean? And sometimes the wilderness is a proving ground, right? God puts people in the

01:05:05.880 wilderness as a proving ground. John the Baptist was in the wilderness. Jesus was in the wilderness.

01:05:10.240 You look at all these great figures throughout history that spent time in the wilderness, man.

01:05:14.820 It was a proving ground for them to become stronger as human beings.

01:05:22.240 Another aside, Dragon Ball Z with the freaking hyperbaric chamber. That's like,

01:05:25.980 that's the wilderness. These people are doing... Go ahead. Yeah. Oh, man.

01:05:31.440 Right. So this Anakim means, you know, people of the neck, people of the necklace, the neck piece,

01:05:36.720 because they also wore a lot of neck pieces. And that's where you'll see some of this imagery

01:05:42.180 with people trying to stretch their necks in different tribes. It's an homage to these Anakim,

01:05:48.360 these Anakim, these giants, these Nephilim. So we're going to get into some of this really good,

01:05:57.020 the good Nephilim stuff. So where I started really coming across what I would consider

01:06:03.340 good Nephilim was David's story of David and the mighty men. Now, David and the mighty men are

01:06:10.180 fascinating because when David becomes king after killing Goliath, and it wasn't immediately after

01:06:14.960 killing Goliath, I want to specify that. He kills Goliath on the battlefield, cuts his head off.

01:06:20.520 And I know I just talked about this, about this sword that he cut his head off with, this piece

01:06:24.640 of technology that Goliath held and that David actually went back and got when he was on the run

01:06:30.900 from Saul. But when he actually becomes king, he creates an elite force of men called the mighty men.

01:06:39.240 And they would be considered from all accounts, anything that special ops, basically in any

01:06:46.840 government, right? You know, you've got a Green Beret, Navy SEALs, any of those, this would be

01:06:53.860 considered that elite soldier group that David had. And they were specifically built to take out

01:07:04.480 Nephilim, Nephilim kind, any of these cryptids. And we're going to get into that a little bit

01:07:11.360 today too, that they were taken out. This is what they were designed to do. Now you may say,

01:07:16.200 well, what does this have to do with good Nephilim? Well, I believe that he had Nephilim on his squad.

01:07:24.100 I think that he took in Nephilim from the other side that wanted to turn from their evil ways and turn

01:07:31.000 to God that he took them in. Listen, why would he not? Why would you not, as a masterful tactician

01:07:40.240 on the battlefield, which David was, why would you not take the enemy? Just look at Operation Paperclip.

01:07:46.560 That's what we did with the Nazis when we brought them in after World War II. We brought the Nazis in.

01:07:54.780 We implemented them in to create NASA. We implemented them into all of these different aspects of science

01:08:02.120 and technology. Military-industrial complex would be nothing without them. Not for us.

01:08:09.860 Oh, it's funny because it's like, yeah, this is, there's nothing new under the sun, right? But also

01:08:15.400 this idea that like, why does the Avengers resonate? Why did it crush so hard on the world stage? Why did

01:08:23.120 Hollywood just, you know, Disney made out like a bandit when they made Marvel's The Avengers,

01:08:28.620 that whole series? And it's like, because this story resonates with us as like the highest level

01:08:34.320 of, of, uh, I guess, heroism, right? Like this is David and the Mighty Men were the original OG Avengers.

01:08:41.140 And that story is like, that's like, that's the story. You want to keep telling that one.

01:08:45.120 It's an a priori truth. Like you just kind of take it as like, yes, that's exactly what happened.

01:08:49.820 But maybe, maybe David shouldn't have done that. What, what happened to, what happened to his

01:08:54.080 kingdom? Like, like you start to let a little bit of this in, like we, you know, we let a couple

01:08:57.820 of Nazis in and in my opinion, they never left. This, this government seems, I don't know.

01:09:04.400 It depends on what you look at, you look at it, right? I mean, there's nothing specifically in

01:09:08.360 the scriptures that say, because he brought, you know, Nephilim on this squad, that that's why that

01:09:14.740 happened. And honestly, his kingdom didn't crumble really because of anything of, of that nature.

01:09:21.960 Well, he did have some issues because he himself, you know, stole a man's wife and put him on the

01:09:30.200 battlefield to kill him so he could take her as his own wife. So we know that, right? So, uh, yeah,

01:09:37.620 which is another crazy story. So David had his own faults, but that also is a great story for us.

01:09:42.500 Cause we all have our own faults. We all crumble. We're, we're broken vessels that God uses that we

01:09:49.680 perpetually fail or perpetually gonna fail. I tell people all the time, don't look at me like I'm

01:09:55.220 not a great person. Like I'm not, I, you know, I strive to be the best I can in this world and try

01:10:03.660 to live Christ-like, but dude, don't look to me. Don't look to any man. Like that should never be

01:10:09.480 our, our goal. I mean, you can look at these great figures like David Solomon. Good Solomon. I mean,

01:10:15.760 the whole tenants of Freemasonry are built off Solomon. Solomon had plenty of his own demons,

01:10:20.840 literally that he dealt with himself. And he's considered one of the wisest man in the history

01:10:26.080 of, uh, of the world. So we can all fail, right? I don't know if there's any one thing that's a direct

01:10:34.240 correlation to something crumbling, right? It's, it's always a multitude of different things.

01:10:39.180 And I think each individual makes their own choices and the choices that you make, uh,

01:10:45.180 there are repercussions to them if you're making the wrong decisions. And I think if he brings these

01:10:49.220 Nephilim in who have turned away from their evil ways and they've turned to God, well, then it's on

01:10:55.180 them and God at that point. It's not really on David, right? David did the right thing by doing what

01:10:59.580 God told him to do by bringing them in, if that's the case. So I don't want to interrupt your flow

01:11:04.580 too much, but you know, when we hear these, these stories from the Greek pantheon of, uh, all these

01:11:09.920 demigods, it's like, obviously within Western culture, stories of like Hercules and, and Perseus

01:11:16.840 are so deeply ingrained. I mean, Disney even got their hands on them, right? Going back to what we were

01:11:22.400 just talking about. And I, I went back and forth on that for a while because it's my contention that,

01:11:28.660 and it's not like it's my own original thoughts, but after absorbing information from people like

01:11:32.880 Gary Wayne, you kind of come to the conclusion that, yeah, it seems like the Greek pantheon were

01:11:37.060 the fallen. And so that would make Hercules and Perseus and all these different demigods,

01:11:42.300 they would have been Nephilim. Um, but even as a child, uh, and probably doing great part to the

01:11:50.400 Disney movie, you like to imagine that when sort of the great, uh, the, the Spider-Man, uh, quote,

01:11:58.300 right with great power comes great responsibility and that there were these beings in Greek times

01:12:03.440 imbued with, you know, amazing powers, incredible powers. And that, yeah, they did do some good

01:12:10.100 things that there were some that, uh, when the Bible says men of renown or, or heroes of old,

01:12:15.760 that maybe, uh, maybe there were some that did operate in such a way as to become heroes to the

01:12:23.540 people. Do you think that there's any room for like, in particular, those kinds of characters,

01:12:28.720 like the Greek pantheon, like the, the demigods themselves, like a Hercules, maybe even more

01:12:33.880 specifically, uh, that it's not an inversion of a story. It's not rebranding them as the good guys

01:12:41.720 when they really were probably terrible tyrants to a lot of people. Um, and I imagine they probably

01:12:47.400 did operate just like people, right? Like you're saying, it's like, we've all, we all fail in various

01:12:51.960 different ways. I'm sure the Nephilim failed in various different ways, but is there room for a

01:12:56.200 character like a Hercules to have done enough good in his life that that legacy is, is real?

01:13:02.980 Yeah. Why not? Like, why wouldn't it be? It depends on what his decision was with Yahweh. I think

01:13:10.660 that's, that's the part that we'll never know. So am I going to say it's a possibility? Absolutely.

01:13:16.700 Why wouldn't it be a possibility? We don't know what these stories really mean. We don't know what

01:13:21.960 parts of the stories are true, what parts are fictional. We don't know what fallen entities

01:13:27.280 wanted to, um, expel through the people throughout the pantheons of time to make us think a certain

01:13:34.860 way about them as well, because, you know, they present themselves as creator gods and Zeus and

01:13:42.320 all of these different, you know, Elohim, you know, they, they present themselves as these

01:13:47.760 creators when in actuality they can create to a point they can disrupt DNA and they can create

01:13:54.180 something out of that, but they can't create from nothing like Yahweh can. It's, it's a good,

01:13:58.280 two different, it's on two different spectrums. And I think they would like though people to believe

01:14:03.020 that they are the creators. And I think that when you see these stories, um, Greek, Roman,

01:14:09.680 wherever you want to go with it, they, they all have a very, uh, they all have the same theme.

01:14:18.520 The gods are never good, right? There's never this one God that's actually a good God. They all have

01:14:24.180 these problems. And I think that's when you know that they are of a fallen persuasion. They just want

01:14:30.860 people to believe that they are the only ones because it gets us, our focus off of, off of, you know,

01:14:37.440 who Yahweh is. All right. That's actually like Zeus created, uh, supposedly within Greek mythology,

01:14:43.960 Zeus created man out of, out of clay, uh, funny enough. Right. And, but also was a terrible tyrant.

01:14:50.980 Yeah. What, what put me onto your, like the good Nephilim thing was, uh, originally Tony Merkel's

01:14:56.580 story, which is kind of like, got me fascinated with this whole thing where he went on Sam's, uh,

01:15:01.640 show and he kind of slipped up and he's doing a podcast that might never come out,

01:15:05.080 but he was talking about that guy, uh, Roy or whatever his name is that made the deal.

01:15:10.540 And he said, you know, his friends saw him grow like a foot and like basically be replaced with

01:15:15.140 a demon. They're doing like procedures on him in another realm, but he's fighting a battle

01:15:19.600 in another realm. And he's fighting a battle, not against angels, it seems like, but against other

01:15:25.740 entities that are like this. And I was like, Oh, there's a lot more going on than we will ever know.

01:15:31.820 But the war simply isn't, you know, God versus the devil. There's like probably warring factions

01:15:39.160 and they're pulling in different directions. What their end goals are, who knows, but there's

01:15:43.440 probably a thousand of them that are just, why would they all agree with each other? It, it,

01:15:48.120 it makes no sense. They're just disagreeable fallen angels. If you don't, they can't, they

01:15:52.160 couldn't even agree with God to the point where they got kicked out of heaven. So of course they're

01:15:55.420 not going to agree with each other. And it's just like, some of them might have some second

01:15:59.380 thoughts about what they did. Yeah. And I think there's a lot of infighting too. I mean,

01:16:03.520 it's always power struggles within that side. And we know from history that the Nephilim were

01:16:09.980 cannibals. A lot of them were, and they even got to a point in the book of giants where they were

01:16:15.120 eating each other. So, you know, that's, that's a really interesting story from the, um,

01:16:22.000 Dead Sea Scrolls, which is a great story, which we'll talk about here. And matter of fact,

01:16:27.100 we just brought it up, I can talk about the, um, story of the book of giants and how that that's a

01:16:34.140 great, uh, it, it, it, it sets the tone. Well, one of the, one of the tone setters, I think for

01:16:40.500 this good Nephilim theory, because Maha way, he's one of the giants in the story. And he goes to

01:16:48.680 Enoch after he has these dreams, he's having, he's having a ton of these dreams and he's not really

01:16:54.980 sure what they mean because he's seeing the destruction of the world. And he talks to

01:17:01.900 Gilgamesh, which was another giant at the time. Um, you know, they go talk to their father,

01:17:08.920 which is a fallen angel. He's not having it. He's like, I don't really care what you guys are

01:17:13.540 talking about. You know, you know, definitely not a good dad. So he's like, you know, I don't really

01:17:18.400 care what you guys are talking about. So Maha way goes to Enoch and asks him, what do these

01:17:27.040 dreams mean? So Enoch goes to God, he comes back with two tablets. He gives them to the giants. He

01:17:33.340 says, this tablet's for you to read. The other tablet is for the fallen entities, uh, to read as

01:17:40.700 well. So they get back and the first tablet for them says that, you know, the earth's going to be

01:17:46.040 destroyed by a flood. It's coming, but they decide to read the second tablet as well. Well,

01:17:51.120 the second tablet is telling the fallen entities that the giants have an opportunity to repent

01:17:57.420 and turn from their evil ways and they will be saved from this flood. So they're actually rejoicing.

01:18:06.600 So about half of them, a little over half at the time, decide to, um, turn to God. And matter

01:18:15.620 of fact, it's in 4Q530 fragment two, it's a very fragmented Dead Sea Scroll. So it's been pieced

01:18:23.860 together, uh, to let you know what's going on in it. But this specific fragment, Enoch tells

01:18:30.940 them the harm that you have done to it until Raphael arrives, behold, destruction is coming

01:18:35.600 a great flood and it will destroy all living things and whatever is in the deserts and seas

01:18:40.160 and the meaning of the matter upon you for evil. But now loosen the bonds binding you to evil

01:18:44.700 and pray. So he tells them to pray. He tells the giants to pray and they will be saved. So we know

01:18:50.640 this from the Dead Sea Scrolls and you will find the book of giants very commonly in the book of

01:18:55.760 Enoch. If you buy it, it'll, it'll always be accompanied with it because it's more of an

01:19:00.160 exegesis of the giants themselves and what they were doing during this period of time. So after this

01:19:05.640 happens and they decide to turn from their ways, they find out that the fallen entities are going to be

01:19:11.360 locked the locked away. Their fathers are going to be locked away for committing the sin for, you know,

01:19:16.860 of having sex with the human women to create them. When they find that out, some of them get angry and

01:19:24.860 turn back on what they were going to do with God. That causes what is called the giant civil war.

01:19:30.800 And these giants actually fight it out before the flood over this matter and cannibalism's involved

01:19:37.360 because they were eating people and even themselves. So a lot of this was happening. Now, what the story

01:19:41.960 doesn't tell us, because it is fragmented and we don't know the full scope of what happens. We don't

01:19:45.940 know what happened to the ones that turn from their ways. It doesn't give us like an ending to it. It

01:19:51.360 just says that Enoch tells them from God that if they turn from their ways, then they can be saved.

01:19:57.360 So we do know that. So if giants turn from their ways, according to Enoch in this book of giants,

01:20:04.160 that they can be saved. So that was a huge one for me when, and that's something that's glossed over

01:20:10.400 big time in the book of giants because the book of giants is a fascinating book and it just goes into a

01:20:15.260 lot of different interactions between them and their fathers, things that you don't normally get to read

01:20:20.340 about. They're kind of their daily, you know, operations, how a giant, you know, works, uh, on an operative

01:20:27.400 daily, but that was very important to me. And that really keyed me off a long time ago, probably about a year

01:20:33.520 and a half ago when I read that, I was like, let me dig deeper into, are there good Nephilim? And

01:20:38.900 that brought me to the mighty men, David and the mighty men. And I'm going to talk about a couple

01:20:43.520 of them today, just so people can see, uh, how that there could have been some of the ones, um,

01:20:52.080 that were, you know, part of this, you know, can I ask you something? Yeah, sure. In your opinion,

01:20:56.380 why, why were the tablets given, uh, one to the giants and then one was supposed to be for

01:21:01.700 their fathers. Like we're not told that. I mean, cause that's very interesting. It's like,

01:21:07.080 it is interesting. You've given to the father, like, this is my redemption. And there has to be

01:21:11.420 some kind of like, they've read it, but there there's something there that I have to really

01:21:16.260 think about. And, and the thing is with the book of giants, we don't have all of it. It's,

01:21:21.520 we just got some of it. So we don't know what all of it originally said. We just have the

01:21:26.360 fragmented pieces that we can take from, but that is in the book of giants. We do know that

01:21:32.820 they were at least offered it. So if we know that God offers something, then it has to be that he

01:21:39.400 would offer it across the scope of time too. It wouldn't be just something that he would do one

01:21:43.980 time. Um, and we know that just from scripture, that God is always offering redemption. He's always

01:21:49.540 offering an opportunity for people to turn from their ways. I mean, why did Jesus come? Jesus came to

01:21:55.620 save the, not only the Jews, but the Gentiles, which were everybody else. So that, that was

01:22:00.540 something that really ticked the Jews off at the time. The ones that didn't follow Christ

01:22:05.220 that ticked them off a lot because they knew that he came for everyone instead of coming with a sword

01:22:12.100 to knock out the Romans who were ruling them at the time. You think, I mean, I could see how that

01:22:18.040 might've also tick off some fallen angels who is like, I mean, that's a great way you give them a

01:22:23.260 a tablet that says like, I'll save your kids, but that's all that I mentioned. And it's like,

01:22:27.800 you're going to be going to jail and then I'm going to kill you afterward. It's like, that's,

01:22:31.740 it's actually quite brutal. Right. Well, they were given the choice. The fallen entities were already

01:22:36.820 given the choice, right? They made the choice. So it wasn't that, you know, God was, you know,

01:22:43.740 not giving them a chance. He did give them a chance. So, uh, to this David mighty men though. So there was,

01:22:51.460 they call them the 30, there's really a total of 37 men listed. So if you look at it, there's

01:22:56.980 actually, uh, uh, two, two different lists in the Bible. Um, and, uh, let's see if I can find it

01:23:07.220 real quick. Sorry about the guys. No, you actually have the, the, the list of names. Yeah, I've got the

01:23:12.820 list of names here. Um, second Samuel 23 includes a list and then first Chronicles 11 includes a list as

01:23:20.300 well. So, um, in second Samuel, the list is a little longer than the list in first Chronicles. Um,

01:23:30.500 but you'll see some names that are the same. Some names are different names for the same person. And

01:23:35.420 then some names are additional. So when you, when you do that work, you realize that there's 30 of

01:23:40.220 them, uh, around 30. And there's also the opportunity for some of them died. We know that

01:23:46.260 for a fact, and then someone probably replaced, but we know that he kept it probably around 30.

01:23:51.120 And that's why people say David and the 30 mighty men, even though we don't know if it was exactly

01:23:56.200 30 or not. Now we're going to get to this first guy that could be an actual Nephilim cryptid,

01:24:05.080 which is if mother Moabite. So what we do know about the Moabites from the David's David and the

01:24:14.840 mighty men fighting them, we've got second Samuel 23, 20 and Benaiah, the son of Jehoiada. So Benaiah

01:24:23.100 is one of these guys they call the three. So you've got the 30, but then the three, they were like the

01:24:31.220 elite of the elite. They were, they were the ones that David would send in covert operations, whatever

01:24:37.180 else. Benaiah was one of these guys. Like he was an absolute beast. He killed a lion with his bare

01:24:43.620 hands that he met in, in a pit. He just like ripped them up with his bare hands when they went toe to

01:24:50.920 toe. So these are, these are, uh, these are definitely some, uh, valiant men. So in this

01:24:57.980 first, second Samuel 23, 20 and Benaiah, the son of Jehoiada, the son of a valiant man of Cobziel,

01:25:02.640 who had done many acts, he slew to lion, like men of Moab. He went down also and slew a lion,

01:25:08.620 which I just talked about in the midst of a pit in the time of snow. So this was actually in the cold,

01:25:13.400 in the snow, he fights this lion in a pit. But before that though,

01:25:17.080 What does that mean? Lion-like men of Moab?

01:25:19.280 Right.

01:25:20.200 What are you talking about?

01:25:21.360 Be specific.

01:25:22.560 Yep. So in the Hebrew, lion-like is ariel. Ari means lion. So we know that the word means,

01:25:32.980 we know it's lion. That's without a shadow of a doubt in the Hebrew.

01:25:35.660 Eo, E-L means god-like. So these were literal lion hybrid men that he fought that were from Moab

01:25:49.260 that he took on. Now, some people want to say that this lion-like meant that they were, uh,

01:25:56.280 valiant or strong or whatever else. That's not from the Hebrew. The Hebrew Ari is lion. It means lion.

01:26:03.080 That's specific. And it's god-like is El. So that means that it's coming from

01:26:09.380 an El. Elohim. It is the divination. It is an actual lion-like hybrid that he fought. He fought

01:26:20.900 two of them and took them out. And this is not one of David's like hybridized men. This is a human

01:26:28.540 man that takes out two lion-like cryptids. So in saying that, we slip to Ithma the Moabite.

01:26:37.840 Now, listen, we, all we know is that he's a Moabite, but he's part of this elite squad of David's.

01:26:44.780 It's not too much of a stretch to think that this Ithma the Moabite was a lion-like cryptid

01:26:52.100 hybrid Nephilim that fought alongside with David in part of these mighty men. It's not a stretch to

01:26:59.760 do that. You could say it's not, and you could be right. But just from this story of Benaiah taking

01:27:06.520 out these Ariel, these god-like lion from Moab, and this is where this guy is at. He's from Moab.

01:27:15.540 So we know that. We know that he comes from a place of hybrids. And that's what you'll see with

01:27:20.660 some of these guys that pop up in these stories. They just, oddly enough, come from these places

01:27:27.440 that only giants or cryptids come from. One of the crazy ones is Uzziah the Astrothite.

01:27:35.540 This was wild to me. When I started digging it, I was like, man, Astrothite? That sounds a lot like

01:27:41.200 Astrothite. And I was like, wait a minute. I know that. Let me go look this up. So in Genesis 14,

01:27:47.360 5, in the 14th year, I read this to you earlier. In the 14th year, Ketaliomer and the kings with them

01:27:53.080 came and defeated the Raphaim. And where? Astroth-Karnim. Astroth. These are where the

01:27:59.640 Astrothites are from. That's it. They are from Astroth. They're from no place else.

01:28:05.320 These giants in Astroth worshipped Astarte, the goddess of the crescent moon, the equivalent of

01:28:12.880 the Babylonian goddess Ishtar, which is the fertility goddess, which is also the equivalent

01:28:19.100 of Isis, which they say that the bloodline of Isis is from the fairy bloodlines that Nephilim come

01:28:26.840 from that are protected by these 13 bloodlines, which are not reptilian, in my opinion. These are

01:28:33.580 Nephilim bloodlines. Not to say that reptilians don't exist because I believe that they do. I

01:28:37.600 just think they're also from a fallen bloodline as well. I just don't think they're the overarching

01:28:42.120 all power that people think they are, these shapeshifters that are ruling the world. I think

01:28:46.640 they work under this structure, but I think that it's part of this bloodline of Isis, right?

01:28:55.140 So you've got this, you've got this whole Astarte imagery, Asheroth Karnam. Guess who else is running

01:29:06.280 around Asheroth Karnam? Og, the king of Bashan. This is in Deuteronomy 311. For only Og, king of Bashan,

01:29:14.000 remained of the remnant of giants. Behold, his bedstead was of a bedstead of iron. It is not in

01:29:19.020 Rabbath of the children of Ammon. Nine cubits was the link thereof and four cubits of the breath of

01:29:24.540 it after the cubit of a man. So his bed was 13 feet long and six feet wide. He was in the 10 to

01:29:31.940 probably 11 foot range. Og was, and he lived in Idri. And this was all in Asheroth, his principal

01:29:38.860 city. Og lived in his principal city of Asheroth where these giants came from, these Ammonites,

01:29:43.940 which were also giants as well. So we've got, we've got Uzziah, the Asherothite. There's only

01:29:56.220 giants that live there. It's a giant city. This Asherothite, and they are the Asherothites. They

01:30:02.400 are of Astarte, this fallen angel that had sex with these women to create these giants. This is the city

01:30:12.700 of Asheroth. The Asherothites are from the city of Asheroth. Now you could argue that maybe they,

01:30:19.240 maybe Uzziah was a slave. Maybe he worked for the giants and he got away and he wanted to fight

01:30:24.620 with David. Here's the only caveat with that. If he's such a mighty man, he probably, okay, you get

01:30:35.560 where I'm going. If he's such a mighty man, why is he there in the first place? I don't think so.

01:30:40.140 I think Uzziah was probably some sort of hybrid that worked for David that left for some odd

01:30:46.740 reason. Maybe he was a kid. Maybe he was a kid. I don't like eating people. I don't like doing this

01:30:51.920 stuff, man. What are we doing? You know what I mean? Maybe he ran across someone who was of the

01:30:56.780 Abrahamic Yahweh relationship. I don't want to say religion, but relationship and connected with him

01:31:04.520 on the level. And he said, you know what? I want to roll with David. Maybe he saw what David did

01:31:09.060 with a sling and a rock and took down Goliath and was like, I don't roll with that.

01:31:15.120 That's a good point. Like when, when you're like back in the day when the mediators would meet on

01:31:20.520 the battlefield and were like my guy versus yours, right? It's not just one guy rolling up. Usually

01:31:25.060 there's like a convoy of horses, one guy, and then a couple of his apprentices, like maybe three,

01:31:30.000 three dudes with them. So yeah, to say that like there wasn't other giants that watched what

01:31:34.320 happened with Goliath and then they were like, and they left too. So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised

01:31:41.360 if some of them like walked away and they're like, my whole thing is like, I'm a little bit confused

01:31:45.000 about what we're doing here, sir. Like we're supposed to just eat these people's faces and they just cut

01:31:49.620 our guy's head off. And just to go back to something before that, that Joel said, he's talking about

01:31:55.500 these, these, um, lion men essentially. Right. Uh, where was it Gary Wayne that we were talking

01:32:02.100 to that was talking about, I think it was the, the cherubim who have several different faces.

01:32:06.480 And one of them is that of a lion and that some of these, uh, uh, various, you know, Nephilim

01:32:13.440 that take on different animal aspects could have been the product of if a cherubim chose to take a

01:32:20.520 particular form at a time, you know, and then, uh, if, if this was a type of angel that engaged in

01:32:26.800 intercourse with human women and then had these offspring, uh, that would explain where all of

01:32:31.900 these come from. Oh yeah, that's right. And the, uh, the, the seals, the seal with like the, the

01:32:37.240 beaked, uh, the beaked bird, the lion. Yeah. I mean, that's the, I agree with Gary on the point of

01:32:43.560 the cherubs because they had the four heads, the one of the Eagle, one of the ox, one of a hominid,

01:32:50.960 um, and one of a lion that they could shape shift into the form of one of those. And I think that's

01:32:57.380 probably where you've got these line, like men of Moab, whenever one of those cherubs changed into

01:33:01.720 this line, like form and had sex with women in that form that created that type of Nephilim. Um,

01:33:08.020 I think the cherubs could do that. Uh, matter of fact, I think that the, uh, angels in general

01:33:14.660 could shape shift into a lot of different things. I don't think it's just one thing,

01:33:17.280 but I think that they could specifically do those things for that reason. And I think,

01:33:22.480 you know, that's where you get some of this dog man imagery too throughout Egypt. I think there were

01:33:27.540 some shape shifting into some sort of dog gods and having sex with these women and creating these

01:33:32.220 dog men as well. So I think that's definitely a part of it. Um, we're talking about these,

01:33:37.120 uh, mighty men had die of the ravines of gay ash or gash, however you want to say it. It's really

01:33:44.760 in all of the, um, etymology I've seen it's gay ash because it's G A A S H. Again, these mighty men,

01:33:55.760 how I'm deriving this is from where they're from. So when we dig deep under where gay ash is from,

01:34:02.220 we can find this in the book of Jasher, which the book of Jasher is a extracurricular biblical text,

01:34:09.580 but it's spoken about in the Bible specifically twice. So the, the Bible actually talks about the

01:34:15.400 book of Jasher and quotes it. So we do know that it definitely holds some weight even from a biblical

01:34:21.720 standpoint. So I was like, you know, what's going on with this? What's going on with this,

01:34:26.540 you know, this gay ash? And I start digging around in the book of Jasher and I pull up chapter 39,

01:34:33.280 15 and the sons of Jacob that day, Gert on their weapons of war and they marched to do battle against

01:34:39.500 the inhabitants of gay ash. And in gay ash, there was a strong and mighty people of the people of

01:34:44.000 the Amorites. And gay ash was the strongest and best fortified city of all the city of the Amorites.

01:34:49.720 And it had three walls. What I just say earlier about Og, Og was an Amorite. He had the Amorites

01:34:57.320 with him. We know that the Amorites were a derivative of the Raphae game and they were

01:35:03.340 alchemical wizards. Like they were essentially the wizard giants. They dealt with all this magic

01:35:10.760 and all this dark alchemy. That's what they did. So we know, here we go. Gay ash were where the

01:35:19.520 Amorites were from the giants again. So we know that. We know that from looking through the

01:35:26.200 extracurricular scripture and matching it up to where these mighty men are from.

01:35:31.040 They were giants. They were hybrids. How many hybrids did they have working for him?

01:35:35.960 Gay ass giant wizards. Incredible. You said three walls. Do you mean like three layers of walls or like,

01:35:41.920 like three walls? Yeah. That's what I was thinking. Like a triangle, a triangular set up city.

01:35:46.040 Someone's going to clip this. I know. I didn't even think about that. For sure. For sure. But yeah,

01:35:53.940 so we know for a fact that there were at least three. And I know Gary Wayne's argued that Uzziah,

01:36:01.620 the Hittite, because the Hittites were also of a hybrid bloodline. Uzziah was also a hybridized giant

01:36:10.280 that worked for David too. So we've got like four right there that are specific to an area that were

01:36:18.240 just giants. I'm not saying they didn't have people working for them. Again, we're not saying this is

01:36:24.500 a matter. It's an actual fact. But what I am saying is it is a large possibility that these could have

01:36:33.080 been hybridized giants that worked with David and his elite ops squad that helped take out other

01:36:40.300 giants. So you, he had giants that were helping him take out other giants. And what kind of intel

01:36:44.280 could you get with having a giant or a cryptid giant on your squad? They would let you know the

01:36:49.460 inner workings of how these guys think, how their operations work. It's just, it's just a smart

01:36:54.620 war move in general. It's a shame. They also had it taken down. It's a shame that we get HBO stories

01:37:03.500 like Game of Thrones and stuff like that, because just the story of David is incredible. As you're

01:37:08.980 telling it to me now, I'm kind of like playing it out in my head. Like if they, if they actually filmed

01:37:14.200 and did that correctly, my God, what a great story. And what a great dude David is like, just probably

01:37:19.980 fears. Imagine, imagine running this like small army of dudes that like, I guess they respect you

01:37:25.280 because you'll like, they must respect them in a way where they're like, this guy could probably kill

01:37:28.980 me. And he probably can. Just a badass dude, man. Yeah. You know what else it gets me thinking?

01:37:35.100 It gets me thinking of like, you know, we're all within this community right now, sort of speculating

01:37:39.680 as to like what's to come. And I know that Tony shares very similar sentiments to ours. And Joel,

01:37:46.640 I imagine you two, I don't want to speak for you though. This idea that like, we are going to see

01:37:51.280 times that were as the days of Noah. In other words, we're going to see the return of these

01:37:56.240 things. And I just like that maybe there is some allyship to be had, like maybe a few years from

01:38:03.880 now, right? If we're on that sort of a timeline, we could be rolling with just like 15 foot homies,

01:38:10.180 like giant gay ass wizards. I think it's happening now. And I think there's a story

01:38:16.580 about a specific giant that said to still be alive now, who would also play into this good

01:38:22.980 Nephilim theory. He goes by Luddy McCode, and he's from the Solomon Islands. And there are crazy

01:38:31.260 stories coming out of the Solomon Islands, guys. I mean, there are tribes of giants all through the

01:38:35.960 Solomon Islands. And you got to think these underground cave systems that connect the

01:38:40.540 islands. We know that UFOs are coming out of these caves. We know there's, there's Bigfoot

01:38:45.200 tribes on the islands that people see all the time, like several different kinds of Bigfoot

01:38:50.500 tribes on these islands. And the stories that these natives talk about, well, one of the main

01:38:55.900 stories they've talked about that has lasted in the test of time is Luddy McCode. And Luddy

01:39:02.380 McCode is a fascinating story because his grandmother like smoked tobacco and she broke

01:39:07.300 her pipe. So they need to get a new pipe from the village. Well, at the time, the giants

01:39:13.200 and the people of Guadalajara, they did not get along. The giants were eating them. So they

01:39:24.480 were, it was a cannibalistic environment. Luddy McCode grew up in, but they, they said

01:39:31.340 they, he, she needed the pipe. So she, she, they shave all his hair off because he's pretty

01:39:37.260 hairy, giants are pretty hairy. He's about six foot tall, but he's seven, eight years old

01:39:41.340 at the time. So he can pass off. It's like a regular human to somewhat. So they send him

01:39:47.100 into the village. Well, there were slave traders that were coming from, uh, Australia and they

01:39:55.140 were there and they were scooping up slaves and taking them back. They trick him and say

01:39:59.940 they got a pipe for him. They got some pipes for him and they get him on the ship and they

01:40:04.280 kidnap him. So they go all the way to Australia. He ends up getting sold to a man who could only

01:40:08.960 afford one slave, but his whole farm is about to go down if he doesn't revive this farm.

01:40:14.520 So he brings Luddy onto the farm. He treats Luddy very well. And to the point that Luddy

01:40:21.180 begins to help him, you know, more so. And he realizes like, man, this kid is strong. Like

01:40:26.700 what is going on? He's like, well, he thinks he's a grown man. He's like, man, he doesn't

01:40:30.060 really act like a grown man. He's more of a kid. Um, I know at one point, one of the stories

01:40:34.780 is that there was an, he had an ox that he was trying to plow the fields with. And the ox

01:40:41.680 was going too slow that Luddy just took the plow and put it on his back and sliced up

01:40:46.760 the field in record time. In doing this though, Luddy got to meet some of the other slaves

01:40:53.580 and interact with them when, uh, his, uh, master would take him to other plantations.

01:40:58.660 And when he did that, these people were from the island he was from, but these were, you

01:41:02.580 know, regular humans. He got to talking and realizing they were not what he was taught

01:41:07.600 growing up, that they were good people. They had, you know, lives just like he did. You

01:41:12.920 had no desire to eat them anymore, but he wanted to get back home and he gets an opportunity

01:41:17.520 to, because the, his master wants to get, wants to let him back home. He just can't

01:41:22.340 afford to do it. So he takes him into town. There's a boxing match. It was kind of like

01:41:26.960 one of those, uh, come on in the ring, fight this big dude here who can take him out type

01:41:32.500 of situation. Right. Queensbury rules. They call it too. So you sign up for it. You die,

01:41:39.600 you die. There's no, you get in trouble for killing somebody in this. You're just beating

01:41:43.760 them to death basically. Well, Luddy gets in there with this dude and punches him so

01:41:48.020 hard. Basically his hand goes through his chest. Like he kills him instantly. And of course

01:41:52.420 they win. They get all this money. So he's able to save the farm and he's able to send

01:41:56.260 Luddy back. So when he sends Luddy back, Luddy comes back home. He doesn't end up bringing

01:42:01.280 some pipes back with him too, which is pretty funny. He comes back and he said, listen,

01:42:05.600 these people aren't what we think they are. I don't think we should eat them anymore.

01:42:08.820 We need to do right by them. Well, a lot of these giant tribes aren't having it. So he

01:42:13.840 takes it upon himself to start what they call in the Solomon Islands, the giant civil wars

01:42:19.940 that go on for like 10 years. And he ends up taking out all these tribes and he becomes the

01:42:25.520 king of, of all the giants in the Solomon Islands. So the point that he brokers a peace treaty

01:42:30.940 with the humans on the islands where no giant will eat them ever again.

01:42:36.400 The sign of friendship is the humans will leave the pipes. They will give pipes to the giants

01:42:43.440 is kind of the whole thing from the whole Luddy McCode thing with his grandmother, which

01:42:47.080 is very interesting. Now, what gets, what gets a little crazier with this story that gives

01:42:54.500 what year is this taking place in? Uh, so this, this took place in the, um, like mid, like

01:43:03.800 1950s, something like that throughout. Oh, this is, this is happening. So when you're saying

01:43:10.300 this is the giant civil war, like this is, this is something of, that would be like relatively

01:43:15.320 historically evident. So this happened over a piece of the last hundred years though. So it

01:43:21.200 wasn't just like one specific time because this was like happening over a period of time, but the

01:43:25.480 most recent story of Luddy McCode was actually a lot later, which was in 2000. So there was an

01:43:33.360 ethnic war going on in the Solomon Islands. It had nothing to do with the giants. It was just the

01:43:37.880 homo sapiens. And one of the bishops of one of the churches actually met with Luddy McCode at one of

01:43:46.500 the Anglican churches. This was reported on the Solomon Islands Broadcasting Corporation. The SIBC

01:43:53.700 reported this on the news at the same time. So this was actually reported in the news on the

01:43:58.740 Solomon Islands that Luddy McCode met with one of the bishops of the Anglican church to talk about

01:44:03.280 what they could do to alleviate this, uh, ethnic war that was going on. Cause Luddy just didn't like

01:44:10.280 all the heat that was going on from it. How can I spell this name? How do you spell his name? L-U-T-I.

01:44:16.500 Okay. And the M-I-K-O-D-E. Okay. I was like, I was writing McCode like he's Irish. He's not.

01:44:22.900 I'm an idiot. Please continue. Yeah. So that's just one of the big stories that came out of the

01:44:30.400 Solomon Islands. There's several other stories about giants helping people, uh, vehicles

01:44:35.540 sliding off the hills, then picking up the vehicles, bringing them back on the hills for the workers.

01:44:40.320 Um, after this Luddy McCode period, there's just not any really bad stories about giants on the

01:44:46.620 islands. There's nothing but really good interactions between the people and the giants.

01:44:52.840 Now, some people think Luddy McCode's still alive. There are some whispers that he still

01:44:57.740 is running these, uh, giant tribes in Solomon Islands. If he's not, maybe he passed it on to

01:45:04.880 one of his sons that's running the islands now, but it's a fascinating story. And it's

01:45:09.840 no, again, it's known throughout the Solomon Islands. This is just known as a fact of them.

01:45:13.460 Uh, they see giants, you know, it's nothing to go off in the woods and see a giant, but they've

01:45:18.080 brokered this deal and nothing's happening between the humans and the giants. This to me

01:45:23.060 is indicative of, I think, and this also is a throwback to the book of giants where you had

01:45:29.980 the giant civil wars. I think in the end times, I think the Nephilim that are revealed will not

01:45:35.440 be these giants. Not initially. I think they're going to be very human. I think that the Antichrist

01:45:40.260 is going to be a Nephilim. I think they may have some different traits, like maybe six fingers,

01:45:43.520 six toes, something to differentiate them from us. But I think they're going to, it's going to be more

01:45:48.300 of a psychic evolution that they're going to show you. Oh, we got these powers. This is what you can

01:45:53.540 evolve to take this and you can be like us. So I think that the Nephilim that the fallen entities

01:46:01.520 are working on behind the scenes now are not going to be these giants. I think that they are working

01:46:08.640 on something that's more humanoid that will fit in better with us, but they're just going to have

01:46:12.580 all of these alchemical powers that they can show us that they have. And we're going to worship them

01:46:17.580 like gods. It's still going to be a demigod system. It's just going to be that it's going to fit

01:46:22.220 within the context of our society differently. Now, do I think... Oh, wait, come on. That's not

01:46:29.060 real, is it? No, no. This is, it's something that he shared though. He shared this? Yeah,

01:46:35.960 because it's AI clearly, but there you go. Count them up. Oh, that's so interesting,

01:46:40.760 but he shared it. AI has this funny trick that it does where it always does six fingers. And I went

01:46:46.520 off on AI probably a year ago for doing this specifically. And yeah, my assumption is that

01:46:52.120 perhaps there's a little ghost in the machine there, but yeah. Oh, yeah. Joel, when it comes

01:46:56.960 to these sort of... We've kept Joel... Joel, listen. Okay, I just want this one last question. It's a

01:47:03.540 yes or no. When it comes to these, you know, potential new Nephilim, are we talking like an

01:47:10.740 L.A. Marzulli model, like a hybridized children of humans and the fallen or humans? And I tend to

01:47:18.820 agree with him that they're tinkering with it. They're working on that ultimate evolution,

01:47:23.860 right? But I differentiate from that somewhat because I do think that they are creating the

01:47:30.380 giants. I think the giants are just in another realm right now. I think there is another realm

01:47:33.940 where they are still creating giants. I think there are giants underground as well.

01:47:38.280 We know that they're creating Nephilim hybrids underground where they're taking these abductees

01:47:43.780 and these grays, which I think are the meat sacks that these Nephilim of old, the ones that didn't

01:47:50.480 repent, the ones that are demonic entities, they're just using them as host bodies. So I think that

01:47:56.760 they're going in these underground facilities. They're creating Nephilim. They're tinkering with

01:48:02.180 different types. But I think when it's all said and done, when the fan, when it really hits the fan,

01:48:07.820 I think the giants will be revealed. I think it'll be like the next step of evolution. You'll have

01:48:12.340 these Nephilim that are with us that look like us, act like us, but then they bring these guys,

01:48:17.780 start slowly integrating these guys into the system too. But I do think there's going to be

01:48:21.780 contingent of good Nephilim that are going to battle on the side of Yahweh in the end. I think

01:48:26.580 you're going to see that happen on both ends of it because we know this throughout history. And I just

01:48:31.140 gave you two instances where in one of the apocryphal books, the book of giants talks about before the

01:48:36.620 flood happened. And we know, according to what Jesus said in scripture, that we're going towards

01:48:43.980 the days of Noah. It will be like unto the days of Noah. So we know this is going to happen again.

01:48:49.320 So I think that we're going to see good Nephilim that are going to be helping people that are on the

01:48:54.680 side of Yahweh. I think it's going to happen. It's inevitable. I think there's some out there right now.

01:48:58.540 They're just waiting in the wings. I hope so, man, because otherwise it's going to be pretty

01:49:05.640 one-sided slaughter until God comes back. Yeah. And I don't think that either. I think that with

01:49:11.060 God's power, you can defeat anything, even if we didn't have Nephilim on our side. Right. But I just

01:49:15.600 think that there is this aspect that's missing and, you know, people want to, I get a lot of pushback

01:49:23.600 with the good Nephilim theory because people think that, oh, they don't have souls. They can't be redeemed.

01:49:29.260 Where does it ever say that? Where does it ever say they don't have a soul? That's number one.

01:49:33.680 Number two, we would talk about media slipping in truths and stuff. How many times in these fantasy

01:49:41.720 shows or comic book shows, we talk about something that doesn't have a soul that's given a chance of

01:49:48.580 redemption and gets a soul. What if that's how that happens with them? Maybe that's how they are allowed

01:49:54.740 redemption. They get a soul at that point. And also, what is this whole soul thing anyway?

01:50:01.960 We're the only ones that have ever been talked about having souls. We don't even, angels don't,

01:50:06.300 we don't even know about angels having souls. We don't know how anything else works outside of us.

01:50:10.840 The Bible is there set in place to tell us how to live. We just try to glean what we can about this

01:50:16.520 fantastical stuff that's going on in it and around it and try to figure it out.

01:50:21.320 But for people to say they haven't figured it out, I know for a fact that there's no way there's a

01:50:26.200 good enough for them. It's impossible. It's impossible because so-and-so said it on this

01:50:30.660 podcast or so-and-so did this. Come on, bro. They don't know as much as I don't know.

01:50:37.040 And I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just saying that it's a possibility. And I think that it's a huge

01:50:41.920 possibility.

01:50:42.400 I think you're right. I hate, I hate when people just kind of go off and they're the,

01:50:49.720 they're the people who know someone's going off on one today about like, he's 110% wrong. It's like,

01:50:53.780 I don't think you know, I don't think you know the fact that you're so sure of yourself makes me

01:50:57.360 really want to discard your opinion. But you're surrounded by the arbiters of truth.

01:51:01.880 Yeah. Thank you for coming on and spending time with us again. This was incredible. I think,

01:51:08.120 I think the audience loved it. Can you just tell them again, who you are, what you do,

01:51:12.780 where they can find you, all this stuff.

01:51:15.400 Yeah. The easiest way to find me is linktree slash joelthomasmedia. So

01:51:19.800 we have honestly at joelthomasmedia, you can find me on any platform, whether it's YouTube,

01:51:25.260 where you can check out my music videos, whether it's Instagram, X, wherever it's at joelthomasmedia,

01:51:33.500 pretty much everywhere. But if you're looking for specifically the music or podcasts I've been

01:51:38.500 a part of or whatever else, just go to linktree slash joelthomasmedia and you'll find everything

01:51:43.720 there. All the socials, everything, just an easy hub to get to. I do have a new podcast. It's coming

01:51:48.740 out called free the rabbits. I don't have a timetable on that yet. I get literally emails

01:51:53.660 every day or when it's coming out. It's not. It's I'll tell you the basis of the podcast real

01:52:01.000 quick before I get out of here. What I wanted to do was be able to talk about things in a

01:52:06.260 conspiratorial or a biblical way, all this fantastic stuff, but also encourage people to actually live

01:52:14.580 a life. Don't be that guy that lives in your basement, pecking around on your computer all day

01:52:19.560 and live in that in cell mentality to where you don't connect with your neighbor, where you don't

01:52:25.000 live life, where you don't enjoy things because everything's evil. Everything's this, that God never

01:52:30.680 intended that for us. It's fun to go down the rabbit hole, but come out free the rabbits, man. Let them

01:52:36.680 loose in the field. Yeah, that's what we're trying to do. I mean, we're doing the thing with Sam, but

01:52:42.120 ideally we'd love to build a community where we can do in real life stuff with the fans. Some of them,

01:52:48.520 some of them are weirdos, but like, yeah, like go outside, touch some grass, like talk to people.

01:52:53.220 It's it's fun. It's amazing. And also I want to see you more on Twitter, man. I'm going to put up

01:52:58.240 notifications for you. So when you tweet, I'll get your stuff out there. We'll help you build that up

01:53:02.680 because we got Tony and we got Juan and now we got Thomas, a paranoid American. They're doing their

01:53:07.460 Twitter thing and they're building up and we need to see more of our insanity on Twitter because

01:53:12.540 there's so much politics and other crap. And speaking of Thomas, go buy your

01:53:17.280 Nephilim portal baby. Oh yeah. Right now, because we've got the Nephilim portal baby

01:53:23.360 play set out right now. And you can go to paranoid American dot com and get that. You'll notice

01:53:27.840 it's a fallen entity with a little portal baby, a little Nephilim strapped to his chest

01:53:32.900 and he's got a little alchemy going on in his hand and he's got his mythical spear. So and

01:53:37.920 he's coming out of a portal. So I didn't know you were. I should have known that. Of course

01:53:41.500 you're working with him on that. But yeah, Thomas. Yeah. Nobody has cooler stuff than Thomas,

01:53:45.400 man. Thomas has the coolest stuff. I have a merch shop and I will say Thomas has like better

01:53:52.680 stuff than me, but please go buy my stuff. Yeah. Thomas is good, dude. He's definitely got some

01:53:58.900 great ideas. He's always always thinking outside of the box, which I appreciate for anybody in this

01:54:04.040 field. I love people that know that they don't have the truth, that they don't have the exact truth,

01:54:10.880 man, because that's when you can enjoy each other. And that's what God put us out here in this world

01:54:16.260 to do anyways. Listen to ideas. You don't have to agree with them, but that doesn't mean I have to

01:54:21.140 tell somebody like, nah, it's like this. Exactly. Exactly. David, take us out, man. This is this is a

01:54:28.840 beautiful episode. Guys, don't forget. Go to patreon.com backslash Nephilim death squad. Join up on the

01:54:36.060 $5 tier to be a part of the telegram. And also pretty soon we're having that super secret show

01:54:42.580 come out. That's going to be awesome. And before we go, guys, one more time, don't forget to go to

01:54:46.500 samtriplee.com. Check out his event dates and you'll find March 30th. He's going to the joke joint

01:54:52.860 and he is going to be performing live with your boys Nephilim death squad. So go and get those tickets

01:54:58.340 before they're all sold out. Tap, anything else? We'll see you tomorrow. Peace out, guys.

01:55:04.700 The great hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us

01:55:13.180 what to believe is real. You can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see

01:55:19.920 because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening.

01:55:28.340 Are they, huh?

Nephilim Death Squad - March 08, 2024

031： Were Some of the Nephilim GOOD？ w⧸ Joel Thomas

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