034: Have the Nephilim Stolen our Birthright? w⧸ Timothy Alberino
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Nephilim Death Squad founder Dave Lee Corboo and Top Lobster founder Timmy Barbarino join me on the show to talk about what they are all about and why they do what they do.
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Guys, before we start the show, don't forget to go to TopLobster.com.
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Click on the upper left-hand corner on the menu and go to the drop-down that says Brand.
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A couple of my personal favorites are the Red Heifer End Times shirt.
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I think it's an appropriate shirt to be wearing lately.
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How cool would it be if they're sacrificing a red heifer on live TV and you're wearing the shirt?
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Or if you're one of the couples that listen to this show, because we do have couples that listen to this show.
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There's an actual romantic element to Nephilim Death Squad.
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And if you're looking for a conversation starter, my personal choice would be the Ask Me About the Nephilim shirt.
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If you really want to get into terribly awkward situations where you suddenly have to explain the daughters of man having sex with fallen angels and giving birth to Nephilim, then that's the shirt for you.
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This one here will actually be at the Sam Tripoli show.
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So when you're out there to see us, I'm bringing some merch that's going to be scattered, like some stickers, some of this stuff.
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I'm actually going to have some shepherd slings.
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We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
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The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely evil.
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It's like we all know it's going down, but no one's saying shit what happened to the home of the brave.
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These motherfuckers, they're controlling this now, and no one's talking about how they made us try to be slaves.
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And everybody's just walking around, heading to clouds, and won't awaken to a dead in the grave.
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Mr. Albarino, can you tell the audience a little bit about what it is that you do and where they can find your work?
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I'm an author, researcher, an explorer, lecturer, filmmaker.
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So, but I talk about, I research topics related to biblical studies, UFOs, giants, ancient civilizations, alternative theories and alternative history, etc.
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You know, Tim, one of the questions I always have is, how did you, how does one get into this?
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We kind of, we kind of get pushed in by like maybe circumstances in our lives where you start to notice.
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For us, the Christian religion more, in a more intimate way, in a more real way.
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But how does someone like you become basically like Indiana Jones?
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Where do you, where do you start off on your life going down this path?
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Well, I dropped out of high school when I was 18.
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Dropped, dropped out slash got kicked out of high school when I was 18 years old.
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And I was living in Cleveland, Ohio for a couple of years.
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That's where I was born and raised, Cleveland, Ohio.
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And I ended up interfacing with a gentleman named Steve Quayle,
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who's also in this Nephilim space, you might say.
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And I ended up moving out to Bozeman, Montana to work with Steve.
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And we began to produce some documentary films and did some other things, conferences and the like.
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And so that's kind of what launched me, I would say, in a professional manner.
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I've always been interested in these kinds of topics, but it became kind of a career for me when I moved out to Bozeman and began to work with Steve Quayle.
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You know, over the weekend, I was on Netflix and I kind of just put on Noah.
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And it's I'm just glad that there's people like you.
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We've got like L.A. Marzulli and, you know, other people, Gary Wayne, who's writing these books that are telling the story much closer to what actually happened.
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Then, you know, the Hollywood version of it, where it's I watched a couple of minutes and it seems like they're trying to depict the Watchers or the Fallen in a good light.
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It's almost like, you know, like the classic inversion of what the truth would be.
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But thank you for for covering this stuff and, you know, shedding some knowledge on us because we have no idea what we're doing here.
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They had an opportunity to depict the antediluvian world in a more realistic way and to tell the story as it is written in Genesis 6 and the Book of Enoch and other extra biblical texts.
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And they chose to do something completely fanciful.
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fanciful, excuse me, and it was a missed opportunity and it ended up being, you know, a very lackluster film.
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Yeah, see, I think that I wouldn't say I wouldn't call it a missed opportunity.
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Yeah, it's I feel like that is letting whoever is in charge of these things off the hook.
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And in a way, also, as I was listening to some of your previous interviews recently where we're talking about the government, if we just kind of keep letting them off the hook as if like, oh, you know, they're just kind of they're just trying to suppress as much as they can.
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To me, it doesn't seem that way as a conspiracy.
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Clearly, they've read it and they and they poured a pretty large budget into it and decided to tell something that wasn't the story, in my opinion, is what it seems like.
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Well, I I don't know that I would go down a conspiratorial route with the Noah story.
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I think they make I mean, anyone who's been paying attention for the last five years, 10 years to Hollywood, they've been making really bad decisions about a lot of stories and many stories that don't have anything to do with the biblical narrative.
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There's just a lack of creativity and you have you always they always want to diverge from these from the original narrative and try and create something unique and different.
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And in this case, you're right, they they abandoned one of those interesting interesting stories ever told for a ridiculous concoction that was that was, frankly, boring.
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You touched on it for a second there, this idea that they had an opportunity to paint the paint this era in time in a much more fascinating way.
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And when people think of the story of Noah's Ark, it's kind of like from from the outside looking in, if you're not really paying attention, I would say the general consensus is what like man was corrupt.
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And so God chose, you know, one man in particular to save a bunch of animals, get them on an ark, and then he punished the world for man's corruption.
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There's a lot more detail and it's a lot more interesting.
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And I think that we've kind of had these stories, maybe whitewashed isn't the best term, but watered down, watered down for sure.
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They're much less potent than they actually are if you're paying attention.
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What is your contention about maybe what it looked like in the days of Noah?
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Well, you know, the story of Noah is a very, very old story.
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Of course, that I believe, and depending on who you talk to, most scholars would say that the biblical account of Noah is a derivation of the more ancient Mesopotamian account.
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I think that the Mesopotamian account is a derivation from the original account, which comes from the antediluvian world and was passed down through Noah and his sons, and then became corrupted during the rise of Sumer and Acadia.
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But it's interesting because, you know, that Noah figure in the Mesopotamian account is Utnapishtim, and you find this Noah character all over the world.
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In many different mythologies of variegated cultures across the globe, but it's always the same kind of story.
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And then there's a remnant of mankind that survives and has to repopulate the earth.
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There are hundreds and hundreds of iterations of the Noah story.
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And as I said, as I alluded to, I believe that the Genesis account is the original narrative.
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Whether or not the book of Genesis was penned before or after the Mesopotamian accounts is irrelevant.
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The oral tradition, I believe, of Noah and his sons that we have in the Genesis account is the original story.
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So, I'm sorry, I lost the rest of your question there.
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This actually does bring something to mind where it's like, do you think that this is one man whose name is changed throughout these stories?
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An event that took place one time that has changed throughout all these different cultures?
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Or we just had Vicki Joy Anderson, who is an author who works with L.A. Marzulli.
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She was just on the show the other day, and she said something that I thought was really interesting.
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It was this idea that the way that God sent the symbol of the rainbow and promised not to flood the world again,
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And she said it was just something that she was kind of kicking around, this concept of it struck her as you wouldn't flood the world once and then just say,
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It was almost as if like this is something that had happened.
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Do you think that there's room for Noah almost being an archetype?
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Like this may have happened several times, and maybe for some reason there is just this formula almost where God picks a man,
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And then this time is like, and like I said, this isn't something that she was putting a lot of stock into.
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And now that I'm hearing you say it, it's like, well, maybe there's room for this is a multiple occurrence,
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which is why it echoes through so many different cultures.
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And maybe it's not necessarily the same man with different names from different cultures,
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but actually different instances, different moments in time where the same thing happened again.
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I would say that all of these various stories around the world have one original source.
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But I would also concede that I do believe that the earth had been catastrophically destroyed
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previous to the flood of Noah, and indeed, in my estimation, previous to the creation of mankind.
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So I believe in a pre-Adamic cataclysm that rocked the earth, that something happened,
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something else was going on here before the creation of mankind and the inception of mankind,
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and that it was an even greater cataclysm in that context.
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So I do subscribe to multiple cataclysms going back into the past.
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I don't believe that the flood of Noah was the first.
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Certainly in my mind, there was a pre-Adamic cataclysm, and there's lots of reasons why I believe that,
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and I detail why I believe that in my book, Birthright.
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Well, they say, I don't know the exact number, but I think they attribute 4,000 or some odd years
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Oh, well, this is controversial because most Christians are under the impression that
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when you go to the Genesis 5 genealogy, which lists the genealogy of the pre-flood patriarchs,
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beginning with Noah and ending, rather beginning with Adam and ending with Noah and his sons,
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most Christians will read this genealogy as if it's linear, if it's written in a linear fashion.
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And there's a lot of problems with that, that rendering of the text.
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First of all, the first problem that we have to deal with is that we have the Masoretic text.
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And the Masorites, they, for some reason, decided to subtract 100 years
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off of each of the lifespans of those patriarchs from Adam to Noah,
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which significantly reduced that period of time from Adam to Noah
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Well, we know that the Masorites sort of circumcised the lifespans of the patriarchs
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because in the Septuagint, you have, which I think is the original rendering,
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you have 100 additional years under the lives of each one of those patriarchs.
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Why the Masorites would have done it, who knows?
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They had their own theological positions that they were wanting to reinforce.
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There were certain theological topics and themes that they wanted to suppress.
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And so that's the first problem that we run into when we try and make a linear calculation
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The second problem is that clearly, I think what we have in that genealogy
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And telescoping means that, you know, you imagine a telescope
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and that telescope will fold down into a smaller artifact.
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And so basically what scholars mean by telescoping is rather than account for all
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of the individuals in this family line, they remove certain numbers of them
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so that they can fit the genealogy in a nice, neat number.
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And this was, reaching a particular numerical value was very important to ancient writers,
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especially the writers of the Hebrew Old Testament.
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Scholars know that you find this phenomenon of telescoping
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The writers, the Hebrew writers would routinely engage in this sort of thing,
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you know, remove certain people from a genealogy in order to,
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Again, because this numerology was very important to them.
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Um, so I think we, we, we, we have some telescoping going on in the account of, um,
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in the genealogy of the pre-flood patriarchs, there were probably more where we assume that,
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that genealogy represents the father to the firstborn son and so on all the way down through
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But that, I think is a, it's an assumption at best.
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And I think that, um, in reality, we're probably looking at a whole lot longer period of time
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than Christians are accustomed to counting for or to contemplating in regard to the antediluvian world
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from the creation of Adam to the flood of Noah.
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Um, I would say thousands of years transpired, perhaps many thousands of years.
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I think that the flood of Noah probably took place sometime around 10,000 BC.
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Now, uh, this is a, a modification to my own view, even the view I put forward in my book, Birthright.
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I have, since the publishing of that book, modified my view, altered my view based on new information
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Um, there was clearly some sort of a cataclysm that happened around 10,000 BC.
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Indeed, when you look at the megaliths all around the world, so many of them seem to point to that very
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period of time based on their alignments with celestial phenomena.
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And this is, of course, the field of archaeoastronomy, uh, looking at an archaeological ruin and then
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using the timepiece, that celestial timepiece to figure out when this, this, let's say, megalithic
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site aligned with a particular sign, zodiacal sign, um, or a particular constellation.
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The same, the same thing that they used for the Sphinx, uh, facing the constellation of Leo.
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And this works because of axial precession, because the earth is tilted and, and wobbles.
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And so, um, this, this was known to the ancients.
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And they all use the same, they all base, they all use the same timepiece.
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The Zodiac is, of course, divided into 12 houses.
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And each house is represented by a different sign.
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but it's something that I was actually thinking about very recently.
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So it's interesting that we're here talking about it.
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But there was a time when I came to understand that a 13th Zodiac had been introduced.
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And it was Ophiuchus, a man struggling with a serpent, or wrestling with a serpent.
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And then that kind of just fell out of the kind of zeitgeist of awareness.
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I wonder if you know anything about that or how that applies.
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Because there was this, I think around maybe 2013, 2014,
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suddenly there was the introduction of this 13th constellation for a brief time
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that never seemed to really stick around or be anything of any significance.
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And I do remember it was a man wrestling with a serpent.
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And this is, this certainly understand, the ancient understanding is 12.
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And those ages correspond to the, what's called a great year,
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which is the, the completing the, the full wobble of the earth, axial procession.
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And, uh, and again, all the ancients knew this.
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Uh, if, if we were already lost in the woods, I made sure to derail us.
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We were talking about the Sphinx being aligned to the, um, to Leo and, and, um, that, you
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know, that was sometime around 10,000 BC and not only the Sphinx in, in Egypt, but also
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I believe that the, that the city of Cusco, for example, and this, this is, was confirmed
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through the research of my, my friend and colleague, uh, Andres Sadasme, who's an archaeoastronomer,
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um, who figured out that the city of Cusco was founded in 10,000 BC based on the alignment
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Uh, I think there, I think that, uh, 10,000 BC is probably when, um, that the cataclysm
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So you're looking at some 12,000 years ago, which of course aligns with the Young-Odryas
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impact hypothesis that Graham Hancock has made famous, um, and Randall Carlson.
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And the Young-Odryas impact hypothesis posits that 12,000 years ago, around 10,000 BC, there
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Um, and that, that resulted from, uh, a, an, an asteroid impact on the North American
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ice sheets, the Laurentide ice sheet to be specific and perhaps other, other locations
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It was in fact, not just one impact, but a series of impacts because there was a large
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asteroid that broke up, uh, that broke up, um, and, and broke up in orbit and fragments
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And that, that was, uh, that precipitated this, this cataclysm that, that, uh, annihilated
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humanity that destroyed much of the life on earth, the megafauna, certainly the megafauna
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extinction and, and, and almost entirely eradicated the human species.
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I think that, that, that is the cataclysm, uh, the, the Noahic flood.
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I believe that that is the cataclysm that all of these other ancient civilizations refer
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to and that it, and that it, in fact, it happened sometime around 10,000 BC.
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So I would push the flood of Noah back to 10,000 BC.
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And again, the only contention that Christians can, can make in regard to this, this timeframe
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is, but the Genesis five genealogy only allows for however many years it is.
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I don't remember off the top of my head, um, basically to 3,300 BC thereabouts, um, would
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have been the flood of Noah according to that calculation.
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And, uh, it's just, it's, it's very, uh, it's not a, it's a tenuous position because again,
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the Masoretic text for some reason subtracted a hundred years off of the lifespans of the
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Um, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna fall back to the Septuagint before I'm gonna, the
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Septuagint, as I said, has a hundred additional years on the lifespans of those patriarchs.
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And I'm, I'm going to put more confidence in the, in the reckoning of the Septuagint than
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And the second problem is this issue of telescoping.
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So, um, it's not as concrete as most Christians think it is.
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And, um, and, uh, again, you have to take into account the, the megaliths are, I think
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the remnant, they're the, they're, it's all that's left from the antediluvian world.
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That's all that could have survived are these massive megalithic foundations.
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And so you have to take into account the, the archeo astronomical alignments of these
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megaliths because they're, they're very precisely aligned.
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You can't just discount that data because, you know, your mass, your Masoretic Bible says
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there were this many years from Noah to, from Adam to Noah.
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No, you have to take the compendium of evidence and, and use the correct measurements and the
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correct measurement of time is the Zodiacal ages.
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So, um, so anyway, 10,000 BC, that's when I would, I would push the flood back.
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And this is a, this is an amendment to the way I used to think, um, years ago.
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I've, I've, as I said, since I published my book, I've, I've amended this position.
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Well, you know, uh, good on you, man, because, uh, a lot of what, uh, a lot of what is wrong
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with humanity now, or at least current, the current civilization is people kind of pick
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So good on you for having, you know, continuing your research and, and changing your mind.
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Um, I wanted to ask, so after this flood, um, how did these guys survive?
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There's definitely one that I, I'm pretty sure is verifiable.
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We're talking about, uh, the, the giant from Afghanistan.
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This is just one, uh, but we know that there are still Nephilim around.
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And the older I get, the more irrelevant it seems.
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Um, it, it, it, it depends on how you view the flood.
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First of all, there's a lot of good scholarship in regard to the flood of Noah, not being
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And what I mean by global is not every single mountain on planet earth was submerged in water.
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Um, there are several, there, I would, there, there are basically three positions on the
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You have what, what would might be considered the traditional position, at least the traditional
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Protestant position, which would be that the flood of Noah was global and that every mountain
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peak was covered in water, um, all over the earth.
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Um, then I would say that another view would be a local flood theory in which the Levant,
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the fertile crescent was flooded and it was a local phenomenon, a local cataclysm.
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And that was the known world to the people at the time.
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And, um, so that's, you know, that's the local flood hypothesis.
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And then there's one that I think is kind of in between.
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And this is the one that I subscribe to, which is a global cataclysm hypothesis.
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In other words, the entire earth was rocked by cataclysm.
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Every continent was affected by this cataclysm and it had dire effects all over the earth.
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Um, not just, not just in, in regard to flooding, by the way, if indeed we're talking about a,
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an asteroid impact or a series of asteroid impacts on the ice sheets in, on the North American
00:32:22.480
ice sheets, then obviously you would have flooding for sure.
00:32:27.060
But you would also have, um, you would also have raging forest fires everywhere all over
00:32:36.560
the earth as the fragments, the, the molten hot fragments of the impacts are discharged
00:32:42.100
for, for, for miles, perhaps even thousands of miles and landing in forests and setting
00:32:48.420
So you would have mass burning of the, of, of the, um, uh, forests on earth, all over the
00:32:58.420
And you would also obviously have floods, you would have earthquakes, you would have,
00:33:01.980
there, there would be, there would be, the fallout would be considerable and it would
00:33:06.620
manifest in many different ways, not just flooding.
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The temperature and what's the word I'm looking for here?
00:34:04.220
Saltiness, salinity of the oceans would be altered.
00:34:10.240
It would probably have launched the earth into something like a nuclear winter, something
00:34:15.780
approximating a nuclear winter, so you would have the massive forest fires, and you would
00:34:28.800
have a super heating of the atmosphere around the impact area, so you would have things would
00:34:35.120
But then right after all of this, the earth would be plunged into a deep freeze because
00:34:39.940
of all of the debris that's thrown up into the atmosphere, blocking the sun and creating
00:34:54.500
The entire globe would have been devastated by the cataclysm.
00:34:58.920
So I subscribe to this view, that the entire world was affected by the cataclysm.
00:35:05.980
Civilization, especially in an ancient context, was founded, the great cities were usually
00:35:16.920
founded on the banks of rivers or in the coastal areas.
00:35:21.360
And these are precisely the areas that would have been submerged.
00:35:25.520
There would have been, you know, mile high tidal waves generated from these impacts.
00:35:29.700
And from all of that ice, the melt of the ice water, rather the freshwater melt from the glaciers,
00:35:47.040
If you lived anywhere near the sea, your city would be underwater.
00:35:52.780
But if you're more inland, you would have perhaps been more affected by the wildfires and the earthquakes.
00:36:02.280
I mean, to think that there wasn't, you know, kind of some sort of advanced economics and trade
00:36:07.480
going on, agriculture going on back then, all that stuff is, even today, if that's slightly
00:36:11.860
disrupted, you're looking at, you know, mass deaths.
00:36:15.960
They were talking about if the internet goes down, people are going to die in problem.
00:36:20.920
It's, you know, it's just the tiniest little, you know, push of a button.
00:36:31.100
It's like all we are is one oceanic cataclysm away from destroying these coastal cities.
00:36:39.500
Because you have a mass, you have a mass die off of the fauna.
00:36:45.640
And you're talking about, you're talking about a, an extinction level event that's unfolding
00:36:55.140
And then, you know, all of the repercussions, you, it would be very, very difficult to survive,
00:37:02.040
very difficult to survive under those circumstances.
00:37:04.640
Um, so again, I subscribe to that view, which is kind of in the middle of the local flood
00:37:11.940
And people, of course, will raise contentions immediately and say, doesn't the Bible say
00:37:16.920
every mountain was underwater and so on and so forth.
00:37:25.160
Um, there are, again, the, the scholarship is when, if you read the papers on the, on
00:37:33.680
the, on the extent, the extent of the flood, you're going to find a various opinions by many
00:37:44.920
It's not black and white as people suppose, just like the genealogy, the pre-flood patriarchal
00:37:51.300
You know, we want, for some reason, we, we, so many Christians, and I'm a Christian, we
00:37:57.640
have this need for things to be, uh, for things to be simplified and, and concrete black and
00:38:08.220
And, and we, for some reason, people need it to be that way.
00:38:12.320
But the, but the reality is it's not, it's not so many things that we think are concrete
00:38:22.080
And again, um, there's a lot of scholarship on the flood of Noah, and there's a lot of
00:38:28.500
different positions, or at least a few different positions with a lot of commentary.
00:38:33.700
And you could, if you take the text, and I'm not a scholar, I'm not an ancient language
00:38:38.020
expert, but if you, but I've, I've read the work by, I've read a lot of the scholarly
00:38:42.240
articles, and you could, we have a particular rendering in, in our Bibles in regard to the
00:38:51.340
flood of Noah, but you could easily derive a different rendering.
00:38:55.520
Um, and based on the, uh, based on the way the words that are used in Hebrew and Aramaic
00:39:03.180
So it's, it's just not as simple as people think.
00:39:07.380
So that's a very long answer, uh, to your original question, which was how could have,
00:39:16.420
Um, well, there's, there's a variety of answers and it depends on, it depends on where you fall
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That the flood of Noah was in fact global and every mountain was underwater.
00:40:01.460
If that's, if that's what you believe, you have to, you have to come for some things.
00:40:04.620
If that's what you believe, like how, how did the, how did the aquatic life survive?
00:40:10.500
And if you take salt, if you take creatures who, who are equipped to live in the ocean and
00:40:17.960
that saltwater environment, and you suddenly dilute that saltwater environment, those creatures
00:40:25.540
So you have to account for the oceanic life, the aquatic life surviving in those circumstances.
00:40:32.500
And the ecosystem is, is intricately connected.
00:40:35.600
You know, you can't have one ecosystem survive and all the other ones collapse.
00:40:41.400
So I might be, I might be just, uh, speaking out of my, my ass here, but, uh, what's the
00:40:46.240
salinity like salinity, like in the ocean as you go deeper?
00:40:49.280
Because when you start to get to like deep sea fishing, you're pulling stuff up that looks
00:40:58.680
I just know that the ecosystem is very delicate.
00:41:03.140
It cannot, you know, you can destroy an ecosystem by just modifying a few factors.
00:41:12.760
So, and if you're talking about a global flood where every square inch of the ground is covered
00:41:21.380
I mean, what are these sea creatures really going to survive on when the ecosystem on land
00:41:28.740
Um, it's just, it's really untenable if you think about it.
00:41:34.200
So, um, so again, if you subscribe to this notion that every single mountain, every square
00:41:40.640
inch of planet earth was underwater, then you're really only left with a couple of options in
00:41:45.220
regard to how the Nephilim, we know how Noah and his family made it through the flood.
00:41:50.900
They were, they were carried through the flood.
00:41:54.680
Um, and we know that, but what about the Nephilim?
00:41:58.980
Well, you, you, you, you, you, you have to subscribe to really one of two, um, scenarios.
00:42:06.320
One is that there was another incursion, which is called the second incursion that the, that
00:42:13.060
the, what happened to Genesis six at Genesis six affair reoccurred, it happened again.
00:42:19.320
I have a problem with that because the consequence was so severe.
00:42:26.180
The punishment was so severe, uh, after the first incident that it's hard to imagine a
00:42:32.480
group of watchers getting together and repeating it right away.
00:42:38.300
And the judgment against the watchers was, was evident.
00:42:45.800
So it's very difficult for me to imagine that just, it just happened again.
00:42:51.160
Um, and, and there is no account of a second incursion.
00:42:55.000
Why would there be such a detailed account of the first one, but not the second one?
00:42:59.600
Show me in any biblical or extra biblical text, where's the second incursion?
00:43:05.180
So, um, I don't subscribe to the, quick question.
00:43:09.700
Um, so after the watchers are judged, um, and some are locked up, how many are locked
00:43:15.920
How many are, are 200 watchers in there all condemned and imprisoned all of them, even
00:43:29.040
Um, so returning to this, to finish this thought, to answer, to finish the answering your previous
00:43:38.400
Um, and then the other, the other hypothesis, if you subscribe to every square inch of the
00:43:42.980
earth being underwater is that the genetic markers of the giants of the Nephilim made it through
00:43:52.300
through the flood via the genomes of Noah's sons, or more specifically Noah's sons' wives, and even more
00:44:01.680
specifically, uh, Ham and, and his wife and, and their offspring.
00:44:13.720
Um, but if you subscribe to my position, a local flood, or to my position, which would be a global
00:44:20.240
cataclysm, um, then the answer is actually even, even simpler.
00:44:26.000
However, there were places on earth that were less affected, that were more survivable, survivable, although nearly all
00:44:37.840
of humanity was destroyed, um, indeed nearly all of the animals, um, there might have been pockets, places on
00:44:50.020
earth where the Nephilim, the offspring, the watchers, and, and, and other kinds of creatures might have been
00:44:56.740
able to survive, um, that where the ecosystem was still intact and it, and it, it was, uh, much less
00:45:10.840
Um, and, and, and again, everyone's going to want to go back to the Masoretic text and say, but it says, you
00:45:17.020
know, they're going to, in the comments of your video, they're going to say, it says, and, you know, this
00:45:21.660
verse and this verse, that everything that had breath and every mountain, and I'm just telling everyone
00:45:26.620
right now that it's not as cut and dry as you think.
00:45:38.180
We are casual Bible readers and including myself, but we have access to scholarship, to the individuals
00:45:46.140
whose careers are to, to learn these dead languages and understand the different meanings and potential
00:45:54.580
meanings of things and, and to avail ourselves of their work.
00:45:57.920
And when you do that, you realize it's just, as I said, not as cut and dry as you think.
00:46:08.580
Now, lest anyone accuse me of not believing in the Bible, I absolutely subscribe to the
00:46:17.740
And I don't think there's any leeway as it pertains to the gospel of Christ that is cut
00:46:22.820
So don't think that I'm extending this flexibility in the, the, the biblical flood narrative or
00:46:29.660
the genealogy of, of the pre-flood patriarchs to the gospel of Christ.
00:46:35.680
That's a completely different situation for many reasons.
00:46:39.200
So, um, and you asked the question that, uh, I don't recall you had another question.
00:46:48.460
And that's a good question because there is some confusion here and, um, and people might
00:46:56.960
be wondering where I'm deriving some of my understanding of this material from the, everyone
00:47:04.560
knows that the Genesis six account is, is like two sentences, right?
00:47:11.140
Um, the Genesis account is not the full account, obviously of the pre-flood world.
00:47:16.760
There was one that priest precedes it from which the Genesis account is, is drawing.
00:47:26.260
And I believe that among other, uh, manuscripts, the book of Enoch, I think is central here to
00:47:33.840
understanding the first Enoch specifically the reality and the historic, the historicity of
00:47:48.060
And so when you talk about the watchers and how many watchers were there, you, you can't
00:47:58.460
Well, they say a third, but that could be, who knows?
00:48:02.240
Well, the biblical text, you know, it makes this reference to a third of the angels.
00:48:06.480
Um, some people think that that's a future thing.
00:48:09.740
Um, so that's, that's a separate, that's a separate issue.
00:48:13.760
When you talk specifically about Genesis six and the watchers, you were referencing specifically
00:48:18.360
200 watchers who descended to the earth in the days of Jared, 200.
00:48:24.140
Uh, and all 200 of those watchers are, are bound in chains, uh, and darkness as Peter and
00:48:32.720
Jude allude to, and, and we'll be in this condition until the great judgment.
00:48:40.340
There is no indication either in the biblical text and certainly not in the book of Enoch
00:48:44.300
that any of these watchers are going to be released at the end of the age.
00:48:48.380
They are, they are bound until the, as the book of Enoch puts it, are bound until the age
00:49:04.180
Those 200 watchers are bound in Tartarus, as Peter says.
00:49:08.500
So, um, and in regard to the, in regard to this, this character that we in the West, uh,
00:49:19.120
call Satan, indeed the New Testament also references him as Satan.
00:49:22.880
Um, this character is not necessarily directly involved in the sin of the watchers.
00:49:35.640
Now, he may be indirectly involved in there, but we would have to speculate about that.
00:49:41.380
And there is some, some indication in first Enoch that that may be the case, but that's
00:49:48.080
Does that mean, uh, sorry to interrupt, but does that mean that he, he didn't, um, he
00:49:53.360
didn't take part in, in bearing offspring with the, with the, the men, the daughters of
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Do you associate Samjaza slash Azazel with Satan?
00:50:44.040
And, and some, some scholars do, I personally do not, but you'll find scholars who will say
00:50:56.180
That's that, that's this satanic figure that we find in the new Testament.
00:51:00.360
Um, I do not believe that there's several reasons why I don't believe that.
00:51:04.440
Uh, but it's important to understand because now we're delving into the book of Enoch from
00:51:08.980
which the, the story of the watchers is derived primarily.
00:51:13.140
Um, you, there's, it's a, it, the narrative in 1st Enoch is a composite.
00:51:23.540
There were perhaps a handful of oral traditions or manuscripts that were combined together.
00:51:28.360
And I'm not even talking about 2nd and 3rd Enoch.
00:51:34.480
Um, and this becomes evident when you realize that as you're reading through 1st Enoch,
00:51:40.560
sometimes Samjaza, or he has different renderings of his name based on which edition you're reading
00:51:49.180
Sometimes Samjaza is depicted as the, or Semi-Jaza, sometimes his name is rendered,
00:51:54.500
is depicted as the ringleader and sometimes as Azazel, this other watcher, Azazel.
00:52:02.300
And then also there's the possibility that these are distinct figures.
00:52:08.260
I think these are two distinct watchers, Samjaza and Azazel.
00:52:12.320
And I don't think either of them are this, this figure of Satan that we have in the New Testament.
00:52:22.080
His defection from the kingdom happened long before the episode with the watchers.
00:52:26.620
In fact, you know, he is that serpent of old, the dragon and the devil who was in Eden.
00:52:32.440
And, and so he was a rebel and a defector before the watchers because he was in Eden, the garden of God.
00:52:42.760
So, um, there is, and I would, I would argue that there was already a group of defected,
00:52:52.940
let's call them defected sons of God, apostate sons of God inhabiting the earth before the advent of the watchers.
00:53:01.020
In other words, these 200 watchers, this was a completely separate episode of defection, of rebellion.
00:53:07.800
And so, you know, sometimes all of these different bad actors in the biblical narrative are conflated.
00:53:16.380
But I think that we can, we can see different episodes and different characters involved.
00:53:20.440
However, I will say that I do believe that whereas this figure we call Satan was not directly involved in the sin of the watchers,
00:53:33.960
In other words, he may have been involved in tempting the watchers, convincing them to do what they did,
00:53:40.560
but he did not himself copulate with a human female and, and thereby progenerate human hybrid offspring.
00:53:52.680
Um, that is evident because all of the watchers, Simjah, Zazel, and the rest of them were all condemned.
00:54:00.480
They were all bound in chains and, and are awaiting the day, uh, the day of judgment, the final judgment.
00:54:10.820
And if that were the case, if, if, if Satan were involved in that group, then he would also be bound in chains.
00:54:18.100
And, and, and that does not correlate to, uh, certainly the New Testament where we read that Satan goes around like a roaring lion seeking who he might devour, right?
00:54:30.820
This idea that the devil is still very much active in the world and, and, and is tempting.
00:54:38.580
And I mean, he's with Jesus in the desert, in the wilderness, tempting the son of God.
00:54:44.920
So he's clearly not in chains, in Tartarus, in Hades, in, you know, the underworld, what have you.
00:54:53.880
So, um, but that's an important clarification, I think.
00:54:59.000
And it makes, you know, it actually makes a lot of sense because, um, there's rules.
00:55:03.360
There are spiritual rules that these beings must play by even, even the devil himself.
00:55:08.500
If you read the book of Job, it's constantly, he's constantly getting consent.
00:55:18.400
So he's, he's, he's a, you know, he's a clever fellow.
00:55:22.560
That's a, that's actually a very interesting way to look at it.
00:55:26.120
He's not the worst of the, of these fallen angels.
00:55:29.680
Well, he might be, but he's not, he wasn't condemned with the watchers.
00:55:35.100
Um, and, and, and in regard to the, the accountant Job, um, you know, there's, again, going back
00:55:44.860
to the scholarly material, there is contention there as well in regard to who that figure
00:55:50.840
If that is in fact, Satan with a capital S or a Satan, um, because Satan is not a, it does
00:56:01.280
not really become a proper title until the new Testament.
00:56:05.900
In the old Testament, there are multiple Satans.
00:56:09.060
And so it's, it's, uh, it's, it's all very nebulous, um, in the old Testament.
00:56:16.980
So, but I do believe that it's clear, it's clear if you read in the biblical narrative
00:56:24.380
that this original rebel, Satan with a capital S is permitted to tempt, that that is his role.
00:56:37.660
That is, you may, you might consider it to be his, his obligation at this point that he
00:56:47.200
And, and again, he, he clearly does so with, with Jesus and he wanted to sift Peter, if
00:56:57.760
So, um, that's an, that's an ongoing function of, of the devil with a capital D, Satan with
00:57:06.420
And I keep saying that because those who are familiar with some of the scholarship in the
00:57:09.840
old Testament will understand that, that there are devils and Satans.
00:57:13.920
That's not always referencing just one particular individual, um, Satan being more of a descriptive
00:57:24.100
Somebody said Satan Christ job titles and angels as well.
00:57:30.600
The, the, the, the, the, the word Satan means adversary.
00:57:35.600
Um, and a couple of other words as well that, that you, you might use, but adversary is basically
00:57:43.240
So, um, and again, in the new Testament, we have the identification of like a capital S
00:57:51.400
Satan, who's the chief of the rebels, the angelic rebel rebels.
00:57:58.960
And I make a very strong case for that in my book birthright.
00:58:03.500
I think he is the, the, the, uh, the principal rebel and, and perhaps even the first, probably
00:58:11.820
the first and, and, and he is involved in this narrative very, very intimately.
00:58:17.840
In fact, I would say there, again, a lot of contention around this statement as well,
00:58:22.180
but I would say that it is that individual, that very individual, the dragon who I, I, I,
00:58:28.980
I, I use the dragon moniker in my book more than any other, um, that, that this capital S
00:58:36.820
Satan figure was in fact, the beguiler of Eve in Eden.
00:58:44.640
I think we all understand that at this point, um, that it was him.
00:58:49.640
And, uh, and he was permitted to do that for very particular reasons.
00:58:54.200
But I would also say that Eden is largely, the Eden story is largely an allegory.
00:59:05.620
I, uh, I wanted to touch on something I've heard you discuss before, and I always wanted
00:59:10.580
the opportunity to hear you elaborate, um, if there was any elaboration to be made, but
00:59:15.640
I believe it was actually on the podcast, Blurry Creatures, which is a tremendous show.
00:59:20.160
Uh, highly recommend everybody go check out those guys.
00:59:22.420
You were discussing your conversations with, uh, people in Peru, and you said that the government
00:59:31.740
of Peru had become very, um, touch and go with visitors of your nature because of the series
00:59:45.260
Basically, they had become upset with this idea that you or any other potential visitor
00:59:50.800
might be there to try to paint some, some picture, uh, that would be, you know, uh, adapted
01:00:01.800
And because of this, you, you, you found some resistance, uh, in trying to do a lot of the
01:00:09.160
things that you set out to do while you were there.
01:00:11.880
And you mentioned that the narrative you'll get from the government of Peru on how their
01:00:19.420
megalithic structures were made would be one thing, but that if you asked someone who
01:00:26.720
was more local and more native, uh, in their, and I suppose their family's genealogy, what
01:00:36.600
the origin of these megalithic structures would have been, they would tell you that a race
01:00:42.980
of giants, um, built the megalithic structures, but who at some point became cannibalistic in
01:00:52.240
nature and then were punished by being wiped out with a series of, or a flood water.
01:01:02.600
And I wonder if I'm sure, uh, I butchered that to some degree, if you could add some clarification
01:01:09.600
to that, the nature of these giants, who they were in relation to the Peruvian people, just
01:01:14.860
maybe a little bit more fleshing out of what it is that they believe, uh, the origins of
01:01:25.100
The ministry of culture in Peru is very irritated with the ancient aliens narrative.
01:01:30.100
Um, I don't really subscribe to the ancient aliens narrative, although I always say that
01:01:37.840
the premise of the theory is true, but that's about it.
01:01:44.100
Um, the, the tendency in Peru among archeologists and historians is to attribute many of the most,
01:02:02.100
in fact, of the megaliths that you find throughout that land in the Andes to the Inca, that they
01:02:08.340
were these master masons that the Inca built the megaliths and whether it be Sacsayhuaman
01:02:15.420
in Cusco or Jantaytambo or Machu Picchu, uh, the foundations of Machu Picchu are indeed megalithic.
01:02:23.280
So the conventional narrative is that the Inca built all of this.
01:02:27.920
Um, and it's true that if the guides and the archeologists and the historians overhear
01:02:39.560
you discussing an alternative view, whether you're walking around with your own group or
01:02:45.940
you're just standing there talking to somebody, observing the walls, it's not uncommon for
01:03:04.920
My group was very close to getting thrown out of Machu Picchu last time we were there.
01:03:08.140
And the reason why is because there's a particular stone structure, uh, in Machu Picchu called the
01:03:23.080
It's a solar timepiece and it's, uh, it's got very intricate cuts in it.
01:03:27.740
It's, uh, I believe it's granite and it, it's, it's devised to make categories.
01:03:38.140
Calculate calculations based on the shadows that are cast from the sun and they call it
01:03:46.920
They call it the, uh, hitching post of the sun because it was, it was a solar timepiece.
01:03:57.360
And I became aware before I went to Peru with this, I took a group to Peru with, by the
01:04:08.320
I went with Nate and Luke from blurry creatures and a, and a, and a group of, uh, about 40
01:04:14.900
people went with us and, um, we were touring Machu Picchu and, and I was, I was talking me
01:04:22.280
and me and my colleague, Andres Adazme, who I previously mentioned were kind of guiding
01:04:28.740
our group around Machu Picchu and I had become aware previous to this trip that it appears
01:04:36.840
apparently they have discovered, I believe it's in Turkey, another Intiwatana, but it's,
01:04:52.840
Um, and it's very similar to the one in Machu Picchu and it appears to have the same function.
01:04:58.620
It, it looks like a solar device, uh, a device that's, that was used to, to make calculations
01:05:09.020
Um, so that obviously is very intriguing because if, if it's true that there's an Intiwatana
01:05:15.940
in Turkey, then that is proof positive that the Inca did not build Machu Picchu because
01:05:27.300
As far as I know, there were no Inca in Turkey.
01:05:31.820
So I was discussing this with my group and we weren't, we weren't, they, for some reason
01:05:38.600
they've, they close off the area where the Intiwatana is at Machu Picchu now in the afternoon.
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It's only open in the morning for whatever reason.
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And, uh, we couldn't go up there because we were in the afternoon.
01:05:49.420
And, and so we were sort of standing at a different part of the, of the citadel.
01:05:55.500
And I was pointing up to it and talking and discussing the Intiwatana, the Intiwatana and
01:06:03.600
And there happened to be a guide standing there.
01:06:13.540
I mean, he was, he was a, he was a, one of the official guides, but he was also there
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to kind of, um, like in, like in a, in a guard capacity also walking around, making sure people
01:06:28.560
are climbing around on the megaliths and, and, and also eavesdropping and listening to
01:06:32.740
what's being said because they do that at Machu Picchu, but he's an official, an official
01:06:39.300
And he heard me talking about this and I was speaking English.
01:06:44.560
He spoke English and, and making some commentary in Spanish as well.
01:06:49.580
And he literally walked up to us and started waving his hands and saying, wait, wait, wait,
01:07:00.740
What gives you the authority to say something like that?
01:07:06.120
Are, do you have permission, um, to, to basically to say the things you're saying?
01:07:12.920
Um, and I looked at him and I said, I, I don't think I need permission to express an opinion
01:07:21.540
Um, and I, I even said to him, I said, what, what, what are we in North Korea?
01:07:25.620
I mean, I'm not allowed to have my own thoughts about this.
01:07:28.880
And what I'm saying, the information, he didn't like it at all that we were, that, that I was
01:07:35.880
saying that I, that I was suggesting that there was a, there, there was an Inti one, Inti
01:07:41.260
Guatana, uh, artifacts somewhere other than Machu Picchu or Peru and, and, and suggesting
01:07:49.560
thereby that, that Machu Picchu was not in fact built by the Inca, that it was built by
01:07:54.840
some other more ancient civilization, a lost civilization.
01:07:59.380
Um, and, and it clearly, and it clearly was not built by the Inca.
01:08:03.380
The foundations of Machu Picchu are megalithic.
01:08:05.700
And then you see where the Inca repaired those foundations and built on top of them.
01:08:09.840
So, um, they found Machu Picchu and they built it up again.
01:08:17.220
And Machu Picchu, by the way, that's not the original name.
01:08:23.180
And Ijampu means the abode of the gods or the dwelling of the gods.
01:08:30.600
Why would they call this the abode of the gods?
01:08:33.980
So, um, the Inca, I think very clearly found Machu Picchu in a ruined state, saw the megalithic
01:08:43.760
foundations and, and assumed that the gods had built this place and had inhabited it.
01:08:49.860
And so obviously they were the offspring of the gods, the Inca in their minds.
01:08:58.420
And so of course they're going to rebuild it and reoccupy it being the offspring of the gods.
01:09:02.520
Um, and I'm, and I think the name, the original name for the site reflects that Ijampu, the
01:09:10.540
So, but long story short, this, this individual became very hostile with us, me and Andres,
01:09:18.800
and threatened to kick us out and ban us for life.
01:09:21.980
And was basically pushing us out of the complex just because we were saying, suggesting that,
01:09:32.440
So, um, there is definitely, this is not something that they're doing because somehow what you're
01:09:38.500
saying is, is dangerous, but more so because they're so sick and tired with this potential,
01:09:45.940
like ancient aliens narrative and the West coming over and turning, you know, their culture
01:09:57.120
It's certainly part of, but also there's a sanctioned narrative and it's, you know,
01:10:02.400
in this day and age, they accuse you of racism.
01:10:04.820
If you say that the Inca didn't build this, um, you know, you're, they'll tell you you're
01:10:11.460
You're, why are you trying to strip us of our heritage?
01:10:14.120
Um, which is funny because the Peruvians are not the descendants of the Inca.
01:10:20.700
So when they say this is our heritage, it's really not their heritage.
01:10:30.200
I mean, you look at a picture of Altawapa on, uh, on, pull up an image of Altawapa on Google.
01:10:36.700
He was the, the Sapa Inca, the, the Inca emperor when the Spanish arrived, when, when, um,
01:10:43.920
Francisco Pizarro arrived to Peru during the conquest of Peru.
01:10:47.460
He has a mustache and he's described by the chroniclers of, as being more fair skin and
01:10:54.180
taller than the, this is not a, this is not commentary on race.
01:11:02.780
It is not accurate to call all of the inhabitants of the Inca empire as, um, as Inca to, to, to
01:11:14.060
Rather, all of these different tribes were subjugated by the Inca.
01:11:30.040
And everyone else was whatever the tribe they happened to be.
01:11:32.680
In fact, in the city of Cusco, city of Cusco is divided into four quarters, just like the
01:11:37.340
empire at large, the Tawantinsuyu, which had four sectors.
01:11:42.400
Uh, and, and the, and those sectors, by the way, correspond to the way that the city of,
01:11:49.820
And I have this whole, uh, there, there's a lot you could say there, but, um, and in each
01:11:56.060
sector, each tribe that lived in the city of Cusco subjugated to the Inca had to live and
01:12:04.340
And by law, they had to dress in their, in their, uh, tribal garb.
01:12:09.960
So they had to dress the way their tribal people traditionally dress and they had to stay in
01:12:21.800
So, um, and some people, um, believe that the Inca, that at least some of the Inca had elongated
01:12:31.020
skulls, that, that, that particular race was an elongated skull race.
01:12:39.620
Um, the images of the Inca kings of the Inca princes and kings kind of, um, negates that
01:12:50.040
theory because none of them depict any of the Inca with elongated skulls.
01:12:55.440
However, there are some indications that that might be true.
01:12:58.300
Um, and I saw you pulled up some pictures about the wild, but there's a couple in particular
01:13:04.540
where he has a, he has a mustache and some where he doesn't, but there's a, a couple where
01:13:12.280
Huascar doesn't have a mustache, but Huascar was just half brother.
01:13:20.340
What ultimately became of the actual Inca bloodline?
01:13:23.880
They were not, they were completely annihilated.
01:13:30.460
Um, so this is a false notion in Peru that, you know, the Peruvians hail from the Inca.
01:13:36.860
They don't, they come from the other tribes that were subjugated by the Inca.
01:13:42.660
And, and, and that's not to disparage the Peruvian people at all.
01:13:45.980
These were all of these other tribes were remarkable in their own way, but the Inca empire, the Inca
01:13:52.780
Um, it was, it was, it was very purposely eradicated by the Spanish.
01:13:58.380
Um, so, uh, I don't know why I went down that path, but.
01:14:02.880
Well, we were originally going in this direction of whether or not there is, I guess it would
01:14:10.120
have been the stories from the Inca that the megalithic site that they built upon were actually built by a race of, of giants.
01:14:31.480
Yupana was their, was their system, uh, their mathematical system.
01:14:36.020
A kippus was their, you might call it writing, but it's not writing.
01:14:45.500
And this was a very, very, very sophisticated, um, form of communication.
01:14:52.620
And only the Inca priests and, and the, and the royal bloodline were privy to kippus.
01:15:07.160
So we don't know what the Incas say about anything.
01:15:14.180
We do know, however, what the Aymara people who are up in the, in the north by, uh, south, rather,
01:15:24.140
Very, very ancient people, the Aymara people and the Quechua people.
01:15:28.140
Um, the Quechua were the inhabitants around the, uh, Cusco.
01:15:34.000
Uh, and the Quechuans say that before the Inca came, that the walls of Sacsayhuaman,
01:15:44.820
the megalithic sites that you find in the Andes were constructed by the offspring of the gods,
01:15:55.800
So the, so Sacsayhuaman, for example, if you ask, and you can still find them in Cusco,
01:16:02.020
the, the older Quechuan people, some of them don't even speak Spanish.
01:16:07.120
And if you were to ask them who built these megalithic walls, they would tell you that
01:16:16.440
So, um, that's the, the lore of the pre-Inca people.
01:16:21.820
The, the, and again, the Inca never actually claimed that they built them.
01:16:25.060
So all of the, the walls around, uh, Machu Picchu, all of the, um, rather, what am I saying
01:16:35.160
All of the megalithic foundations of Cusco, when you're actually walking in the city,
01:16:42.660
I'm not talking about Sacsayhuaman now, which is a mile outside of the city.
01:16:47.080
It's kind of, it's really part of Cusco, but when you're walking downtown in downtown Cusco
01:16:52.460
in the middle of the city, and you're walking through the streets, which is really remarkable
01:16:56.760
because as you're walking through the streets, you, you are bounded by massive, exquisite
01:17:08.100
And they're, the majority of them, if not all of them, the, the, the largest ones are
01:17:15.840
And I know that the original megalithic foundations of my, of Cusco are green diorite.
01:17:23.900
So, um, somebody was building there long before the Inca, the Inca, what they received was
01:17:33.100
They received information and knowledge from an older culture.
01:17:41.880
I always call the Inca, the Romans of, of South America.
01:17:47.020
They very much like the Romans were, were incredible masons.
01:17:50.920
And they, they were, they built amazing aqueducts, just like the Romans, different kinds of aqueducts.
01:17:57.620
So they were, they were ingenious, um, they were ingenious farmers.
01:18:03.160
I mean, they, they invented some, some absolutely incredible agricultural technologies and they
01:18:12.680
were a very sophisticated, remarkable civilization.
01:18:16.200
So I'm not trying to take anything away from the Inca.
01:18:21.440
I would say that the, this, the Inca were in possession of unusual knowledge.
01:18:30.360
That's evident, but they didn't build the megaliths.
01:18:33.660
And let's, let's take one example in particular, the walls of Sacsayhuaman.
01:18:39.740
You go to Peru, uh, Cusco rather, you go to the walls of Sacsayhuaman, some of the most
01:18:45.140
impressive megalithic walls, maybe the most impressive megalithic walls on earth.
01:18:50.280
And everybody says they were built by the Inca.
01:18:53.580
Where's the proof that they were built by the Inca?
01:18:56.500
The doorways at Sacsayhuaman, and this is not always the case with megaliths, by the way,
01:19:06.360
You could, a nine foot tall person, even a 10 foot tall person in some cases can pass
01:19:13.940
The steps that go up through the citadel of Sacsayhuaman are, are spaced unusually far apart.
01:19:20.660
So, uh, uh, I'm six foot one, my, my stride, those stairs were not built for a guy of my size.
01:19:32.580
If, if, if those stairs were, were built the way we build stairs, where you sort of take a stride
01:19:37.820
on each step, then you're looking at a nine foot tall guy, uh, which would correspond to the doors.
01:19:43.760
Um, and I think Sacsayhuaman is unique in, in this aspect that it, it, it looks like it was built for
01:19:52.260
very large people, whereas Ojantaytambo doesn't, by the way, which is also an exquisite megalithic
01:20:01.060
And what's, what's really important is to understand that there is no direct evidence that the Inca built
01:20:09.480
In fact, there is direct evidence to the contrary that's never, never been published officially.
01:20:15.180
I have a friend, um, a good friend of mine named Anselm P. Rambla, who's a Spanish explorer and,
01:20:24.820
He's not an archeologist, but he's worked with archeology.
01:20:26.560
He's had an archeologist on his team and they were given permission to excavate around Sacsayhuaman.
01:20:38.040
And when they were, they were digging into the foundations of Sacsayhuaman and when they
01:20:45.280
went deep into the foundations, cause a lot of that citadel is still buried.
01:20:51.860
When they dug down deep into the foundations, he discovered pre-Incan artifacts.
01:21:04.620
That's conclusive evidence that the Inca didn't build Sacsayhuaman, that somebody else did because
01:21:10.800
you have pre-Inca artifacts at the foundation, which means that those walls were standing when
01:21:18.600
a pre-Incan civilization occupied that area before the Inca.
01:21:23.760
So what happens when their historical centers get a, get a hold of that sort of information?
01:21:30.160
Well, they'll never, they'll never concede that in Peru because their whole, the whole
01:21:36.400
industry, the tourism industry is, is established on the Inca empire.
01:21:42.020
So they want all of these major sites to be Inca.
01:21:44.540
Not everything, you know, you have the Moche civilization, you have the Paracas, you have
01:21:48.080
all different kinds of civilizations that have their own ruins.
01:21:50.840
But, but, but as it pertains to Cusco in the, in the Andes mountains, it's the Inca,
01:21:57.680
And to attribute the walls of Sacsayhuaman to a pre-Incan culture, it's almost sacrilegious
01:22:09.520
And I'm not saying that a, an inferior pre-Inca culture built those walls.
01:22:16.260
What I'm saying is that an, an inferior pre-Inca culture inhabited that area while those walls
01:22:26.040
Those walls, in my estimation, were built in the antediluvian age by a remarkable civilization
01:22:33.780
And, and they were using the same kind of technology and knowledge seen all over the
01:22:59.060
So, so, so that right there is, is, um, evidence that, that the Inca didn't build those walls.
01:23:13.820
In fact, here in the United States, I'm probably the only person who knows.
01:23:19.160
Ramla has documented it and, and, and, um, and did great work over there.
01:23:23.040
And I could talk for hours about, about Anselm P.
01:23:26.220
But, um, so that just gives you an idea of, of how misconstrued some of these megalithic
01:23:34.020
sites are in regard to their, in regard to the conventional narrative.
01:23:37.440
That's, that's literally just concocted to explain their existence.
01:23:42.840
Um, and, uh, there's, so, there's so much you could, you, you could say about these megalithic
01:23:48.120
Um, I do believe that there, there, there was a post-flood culture that could still build
01:24:01.900
But aside from the Phoenicians, by the way, who built Solomon's temple?
01:24:08.160
Um, who circumvented, uh, circumnavigated Africa?
01:24:13.400
Who built the battleships in the, in the, uh, and the, the, and the, the, so much of
01:24:22.960
The Phoenicians are, are a, a, an important key to unlocking some of the mysteries of the
01:24:30.360
But the Phoenicians, they were the only ones in a, in a post-flood context, as far as I
01:24:35.340
can tell, who could approximate the skill, uh, the abilities of the masons that, that
01:24:43.540
preceded them in the, in the antediluvian world.
01:24:45.720
And, and also, by the way, the Phoenicians, there were giants among the Phoenicians and
01:24:53.140
Now, do you think, uh, so I was, that was the question I was actually going to ask, is
01:24:59.640
it, uh, was it, is it the people or is it the knowledge that they then are imparted by
01:25:09.140
Because, uh, it kind of just draws some overlaps with, uh, for me with what's been going on with
01:25:14.840
the UFO narrative, where, where reverse engineering, some of this stuff that has been left behind
01:25:20.580
and crashed here purposefully, or whatever you'd like to think about it, we are working
01:25:27.860
It's, it's of my opinion that we're using it right now to talk, because I don't know
01:25:31.500
exactly where you are, but David's about two hours from where I am.
01:25:35.840
None of this stuff is even connected with, with wire.
01:25:40.580
Um, where do, where do aliens fall into this for you?
01:25:45.260
You mean specifically, are you talking about in an ancient context or are you talking about
01:25:51.000
The current, well, whatever, whatever the narrative is today.
01:25:56.720
Let me, let me address both, both, both of those things.
01:25:59.120
First, in an ancient context, I said that the, the premise of ancient aliens is true.
01:26:06.060
The premise, the premise of ancient aliens is that mankind has been in contact with extraterrestrial
01:26:22.900
Um, now they get out, they get off into the weeds, uh, after that, but, but I, but I want
01:26:30.380
Now that does not mean that aliens built the pyramids or aliens built this or that.
01:26:40.800
But in regard to the phenomenon today, um, I think it's, it's evident that there is an
01:26:55.200
And I use the word alien very purposely, um, alien simply means let's make it, let's make
01:27:13.900
Uh, in regard to conscious beings, alien is simply a race of conscious beings.
01:27:25.520
So any conscious beings that inhabit the earth that are not the human race are alien to the
01:27:40.160
Now that, that applies whether those creatures, whether those entities are from Mars or whether
01:27:48.100
they're from the inner earth or whether they're from some extra dimensional reality, right?
01:27:54.840
So that, that term applies extraterrestrial is much more definitive.
01:27:59.800
Extraterrestrial is a being whose provenance is not planet earth.
01:28:10.740
Now you could have extraterrestrial beings who have been inhabiting the earth longer than
01:28:19.240
They would still be extraterrestrial if they did, if they didn't originate here, even if they've
01:28:26.780
That's an important thing to keep in mind when you, when you, when you are exposed to the,
01:28:32.360
the many, many different theories of, uh, in, in the, in ufology, um, in regard to these
01:28:41.280
entities, in regard to these, the alien presence, as I call it.
01:28:47.180
There's no question that there's an alien presence.
01:28:50.200
Um, the nature of that presence, the provenance of those beings that can be debated.
01:28:55.800
Um, and I don't know if I'm answering your question, but you know, there's a whole lot
01:29:01.480
of, and I'm sure in the, in the, in the comments of these kinds of discussions, you're going
01:29:07.540
You're going to, you're going to get the people who say not the, the aliens are just
01:29:12.060
extraterrestrial, uh, extradimensionals, uh, not extraterrestrial, extradimensional, or
01:29:20.800
Those are very easy, simple explanations for something that's very complex.
01:29:25.120
And therefore those are very inaccurate explanations.
01:29:28.560
So, um, there's this contention that this alien presence, these entities with whom humanity
01:29:42.280
is interacting and interacting today in a very physical way.
01:29:48.360
We're talking about physical craft, reverse engineering of tangible technology interfacing
01:29:56.820
Um, that's the kind of interaction I'm talking about, not like psychic interaction or something
01:30:04.340
There's this notion that people want to write off what's called the extraterrestrial hypothesis,
01:30:09.980
completely write it off and say, nope, nope, nope.
01:30:13.020
These are extradimensionals or ultra terrestrials, or, you know, again, they come from the inner
01:30:18.480
The problem is that we know that the craft, their craft is capable of traversing outer space.
01:30:29.620
And obviously I'm going to be triggering all the flat earthers here, but, um, that their
01:30:37.080
craft is capable of, of, of traversing through our upper atmosphere and in, in, in, uh, outside
01:30:47.400
We know that because there have been credible, legitimate, uh, video evidence and photographic
01:30:54.600
evidence, evidence of, of UFO craft, including saucers out there.
01:30:59.020
So it's, so for me, I'm going to say that the alien presence is at least extraterrestrial.
01:31:10.880
Because if they can fly around in the, in, in, in the, uh, in outer space, then what's going
01:31:19.920
to inhibit them from flying to Mars or having a base on Mars or originating from Mars or any
01:31:29.160
So, um, I think at least we're dealing with extraterrestrials in the sense that they're
01:31:42.500
And, you know, there could be very, various groups here, but are they inhabiting the earth?
01:31:46.640
I think the answer there is also clearly yes, because I think it's, if you do, if you delve
01:31:53.140
into deep into ufology, um, you're going to encounter, I think, sufficient evidence to
01:32:04.620
For example, gray aliens have bases in the earth and under the sea.
01:32:12.040
Um, and they're both inhabiting the earth and also have the capability to go elsewhere,
01:32:21.920
So, um, so you see, you have a very complex picture here.
01:32:29.480
And I know you didn't ask me this question, but this is where my brain went for whatever
01:32:32.040
reason in regard to extra, extra dimensional hypotheses.
01:32:40.020
I do believe there are more than, uh, I subscribe to the, to, to, uh, the extra spatial hypothesis.
01:32:49.540
In other words, that there are more than three dimensions, physical dimensions, something like
01:32:56.040
string theory, where there's, you know, 10 different dimensions to our reality that we
01:33:00.320
currently reside in, that we just can't perceive.
01:33:07.680
I don't subscribe to the notion that there are, uh, multi, a multiverse, which obviously
01:33:14.440
the MCU and so many of the popular movies that have come out in the last 10 years have,
01:33:19.700
have made, made great use of this multiverse idea.
01:33:25.420
But, uh, yeah, that premise really caught fire, huh?
01:33:28.360
Way too much too, because if they're conflating a bunch of different theories, the multiverse
01:33:32.820
is different than, than an alternative world theory.
01:33:36.600
It's, it's not the same and it's not the same as hyperspace theory, which is what I said
01:33:41.200
that extras, there are extra spatial dimensions to the reality that we inhabit.
01:33:50.520
I think that's, uh, I think that's part of the fundamental reality of, of our world that
01:33:55.460
we inhabit, but, but this idea of multiverse, that's completely different.
01:34:03.960
And then obviously alternate realities, alternate, um, worlds are, are worlds that are not within
01:34:16.080
They're like, they're outside of the known universe.
01:34:21.580
There are different theories that, that movies just, they just compress them all together
01:34:32.220
Um, and so when someone says, oh, these are extra dimensional beings, well, what exactly
01:34:40.800
Are you saying that they're coming from a multiverse?
01:34:42.840
Are you saying they're coming from like an alternate universe like Narnia?
01:34:46.480
Are you saying that they're able to access the full spectrum of hyperspace of our hyperspatial
01:35:00.660
And the reality is that most people who use that term don't have any idea what they're
01:35:04.900
And so they take this, and forgive me for the rant here, but they take this, this very
01:35:11.980
plausible, rational explanation, the extra terrestrial hypothesis, and they throw it in
01:35:19.480
the garbage in favor of an extra dimensional hypothesis, which they do not understand.
01:35:24.900
And nobody really does, because we've never seen another dimension.
01:35:30.460
We have no idea what another dimension looks like, or what entities coming from another
01:35:36.460
dimension would look like, or how they would act, or how they would operate.
01:35:41.660
When you talk about a multiverse, for example, you could be talking about a plane of existence
01:35:46.360
where all of the laws of physics are different.
01:35:52.460
So if that's the case, then this is a realm of speculation that requires imagination, really.
01:36:04.280
And I'm not discounting that there's maybe something to this extra dimensional hypothesis,
01:36:11.040
not multiverse, and not alternative world theory.
01:36:14.500
I reject those two on biblical grounds, and that's another conversation.
01:36:22.460
And so these are, it's very important that people don't try and simplify something that's
01:36:28.460
very complex, because you lose the granularity of it.
01:36:34.760
And so in regard to who these entities are, well, there's things that we know about them.
01:36:43.020
We know that they have nuts and bolts technology that we can recover and reverse engineer.
01:36:47.820
And people might say, well, what makes you think you know that?
01:36:52.860
And you can spend three hours explaining why it's really conclusive that that's the fact,
01:37:01.660
We know they're physical beings, at least some of them.
01:37:12.520
So we're dealing with a physical reality, and they are abiding by at least some of what
01:37:24.440
They're not entering into our reality and doing whatever they want, like the genie from
01:37:33.840
And so the extra, and as I said before, we also know that their capabilities are such
01:37:38.320
that they can easily maneuver outside of our atmosphere.
01:37:45.020
And just as they have bases on the earth, it seems rational to conclude that they have
01:37:52.920
They certainly have the technology, apparently, to traverse the air in the same way that they
01:38:04.820
And even in the documentation that's been released by the government, when a saucer goes
01:38:11.540
into the sea, when it goes into the water, it moves through the water in the same way
01:38:17.180
In other words, the water, there is no impedance of the water whatsoever.
01:38:22.240
From what I understand, it's like the technology is kind of like actually dragging it forward
01:38:30.760
That's at least what I've understood from Bob Lazar and what he said.
01:38:34.260
The space-time, space-time, it's not moving, it's not moving through matter.
01:38:47.660
So that's why it's moving the atmosphere around it.
01:38:55.800
So water and air, it doesn't matter because it's literally bending space-time.
01:39:11.020
Mr. Albarino, before, because I want to respect your time and we've actually gone five minutes
01:39:25.420
It's amazing that you came on here to talk with us to begin with.
01:39:31.520
Where do you put the idea, sorry, just before, you know, you have to go or anything, where
01:39:36.260
do you put the idea of accounts saying when people are being abducted or experiencing sleep
01:39:43.200
paralysis, the name of Jesus Christ breaks that occurrence from happening?
01:40:00.160
However, the problem is that we have a lot of data from abductees accrued over decades
01:40:09.880
And within this body of data, there are many, many, many accounts.
01:40:14.880
There are numerous accounts in which Christians are enthusiastically rebuking their abductees,
01:40:26.380
abductors, rather, in the name of Jesus to no effect.
01:40:30.160
And in fact, there are some very interesting scenarios in which one case, for example, I
01:40:36.340
believe this is in the work of Carla Turner, the late Dr. Carla Turner, in which an individual
01:40:43.340
is rebuking the abductors in the name of Jesus vociferously, enthusiastically, and the
01:40:49.420
grays simply disappear for a minute and come back with Jesus.
01:40:57.000
Obviously, not Christ, but in other words, they saw that the abductee was distraught,
01:41:09.340
So they wanted to diffuse this abductee's panic and fear.
01:41:14.500
And so they bring in a Jesus-like figure, probably a hybrid that with, and I believe this figure
01:41:22.880
had blonde hair and a beard and bright blue eyes and was comforting this abductee saying,
01:41:38.140
And I'm not saying that was Jesus, I'm saying that was a deception.
01:41:44.280
Even from one of our members, I believe, stories similar to that, where they will have,
01:41:49.620
it almost seems like it's within the rules for them to replicate or deceive, just so long
01:41:58.140
Well, I've got, you know, so that's what I told you there, and there may be something
01:42:01.620
to what you just said, but there's, what I just cited is stuff that is a particular story
01:42:07.140
that comes out of the data, that comes out of the abduction material.
01:42:12.820
But then, then I also have plenty of people who I know personally, people who I can attest
01:42:19.140
to that are genuine, sincere believers in Christ who are abductees and who rebuke and so forth
01:42:34.080
And this is what people, this gets lost in the conversation.
01:42:37.140
Most abductees are already incapacitated before the greys arrive.
01:42:48.700
The greys are going to come abduct you in most cases, not always, but in most cases, before
01:43:00.100
They've already incapacitated you, most likely through the implants.
01:43:04.140
So, this notion that the greys show up and you have all this energy to be able to, you
01:43:18.080
The implants, the greys implant the abductees with very small, about the size of a pill,
01:43:28.300
It could have many functions, but one of the most obvious functions would be to control
01:43:32.940
the nervous system and other functions of the human body and mind and to render the
01:43:49.820
In other words, you show up, the greys show up, and the abductee is just out of it, ready
01:43:59.240
And it depends, by the way, the proximity of the craft has a lot to do with this.
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And you know what, Jacob, I will say you're correct, but we're not sub-100.
01:46:00.380
We have over 100 on Rumble and from Twitter, the total count probably, total count right
01:46:18.640
And so what were we talking about before we dismounted here?
01:46:23.480
I think we were talking about rebuking aliens in the name of Jesus.
01:46:30.220
So what do you, in your opinion, what is their intention?
01:46:33.620
Because every time I look at it, it does seem malicious in some sort of way.
01:46:44.340
So what are these things doing, in your opinion?
01:46:46.700
Well, I would subscribe to Dr. Jacob's final analysis, which is planetary acquisition.
01:46:52.980
I believe that the Greys are interested in planetary acquisition.
01:47:01.360
And I always liken them to the antithesis of the Borg from Star Trek.
01:47:07.400
And if the Trekkies out there will understand what I'm saying,
01:47:10.020
they were cyborgs and they would subdue and assimilate other civilizations into their own collective.
01:47:26.580
So they would take all of the civilizational knowledge and technology
01:47:29.620
and incorporate it into their cyborg collective and do so overtly.
01:47:42.700
The Greys assimilate themselves into your civilization and take over in a subversive way, a covert way.
01:47:51.600
And when I say assimilate themselves into your civilization, also they assimilate themselves into your genome.
01:47:59.000
So they create hybrids that are advanced hybrids that are nearly indistinguishable from regular human beings.
01:48:10.560
I mean, we could speculate maybe some of the why they might do this, many different reasons.
01:48:23.080
But ultimately, ultimately, I think the overarching objective here is planetary acquisition.
01:48:32.740
It does overlap with, I mean, what were the intentions of the fallen, of the original watchers when they intermingle with men?
01:48:44.320
It was for dominion over Earth to take our birthright.
01:48:49.200
Would you consider current aliens, extraterrestrials to be some sort of Nephilim?
01:48:59.380
No, because, I mean, that's kind of an interesting question, but...
01:49:08.460
I can say that with confidence that aliens, the Greys, let's be specific.
01:49:13.920
So the Greys, so when I say aliens, I'm talking about the Greys.
01:49:26.620
And the reason why people get all up in arms about that statement is because they have a westernized perspective of what a demon is.
01:49:37.540
It's an amorphous thing, evil, malevolent, grotesque creature.
01:49:44.580
That's what it means in the Western Christian mind.
01:49:54.500
If you're going to, in your statement, aliens are demons.
01:49:59.380
If what you mean by demons is the biblical sense of demon, then you're only talking about the disembodied spirits of dead giants.
01:50:11.320
The spirits of the Nephilim, which are the unclean spirits in the New Testament.
01:50:22.060
And we know how those spirits manifest in the world.
01:50:25.480
When those spirits inhabit somebody, that person is lost to madness.
01:50:31.020
They have epilocy, epilocy, how do you say that?
01:50:36.100
They're throwing themselves in the New Testament of the fire, rolling around, foaming from the mouth, screaming, breaking chains.
01:50:45.460
These individuals are unhinged when they're inhabited by these demons.
01:50:48.820
And so, you know, all you have to really do is analyze the disposition of the gray alien over and against the disposition of an unclean spirit in the New Testament.
01:51:06.200
However, gray aliens are dispassionate and robotic and very, very much controlled beings who do not display.
01:51:24.500
On the other hand, you have unclean spirits in the New Testament, demons, which are, as I said, unhinged and ravenous and screaming and writhing.
01:51:32.920
And people say, well, the gray aliens are the meat suits for the demons.
01:51:38.020
But that doesn't make any sense either because you're dealing with the same problem.
01:51:41.540
Why would these unclean spirits manifest in one way a human being and in a completely opposite way in a gray alien?
01:51:50.080
Look, if you're going to concoct a theory, fine.
01:51:58.600
It would be because if these were to be sort of a biotech meat suit, that they are limited in their capacity for expression in comparison to God's creation.
01:52:23.960
The theory would go that they are, I suppose, entrapped in this realm, right?
01:52:33.280
And that they cannot, almost like Al Capone controlling the mob from prison, where he can't be on the outside, but he can still kind of pull the strings.
01:52:47.080
Al Capone, I suppose, would be like the fallen, right?
01:52:50.980
And so that through some technological means, no, like the fallen that are locked in Tartarus.
01:52:59.660
And so the idea would be that they can enter this realm through some limited technological means outside of just inhabiting a person, possessing a person, that they can, I suppose, get here through technology, right?
01:53:15.980
And sometimes Top and I talk about how it seems as though, if you go back through history, there are always these moments where society is pushed forward a little bit through some sort of technological advancement.
01:53:29.700
And that oftentimes it comes in the form of like some lowercase g god teaching you agriculture, teaching a people agriculture, or, you know, fast forward to the Roswell crash, whether or not, like Top alluded to earlier, that was on purpose or not, isn't really the point.
01:53:48.240
The point is we recovered some technology from that, and that maybe that technology informs the technology that we use today.
01:53:55.240
And so if you're going, this is obviously theory, right?
01:54:00.220
We have no tangible evidence to support this theory, but the idea is that maybe there has always been a push to get society to a technological level advanced enough that something on the other side of the veil could utilize this technology.
01:54:15.120
You know, you look at situations like Stargates, and I know I'm dragging you into the weeds here and kind of unprovable jargon.
01:54:27.820
I have a hard time putting, like, biblically, putting where these aliens would fall because they're certainly important in how the next couple of years are going to play out.
01:54:41.420
Like, there's just been too much, like, in the past hundred years, too much back and forth and, like, just dangling around this UFO, extraterrestrial, extradimensional.
01:54:52.200
It seems like we're being prepared for something.
01:54:57.520
How vivid would your portrait of reality be if you were limited to three crayons?
01:55:23.900
Say you were coloring a portrait of reality, trying to be as accurate as possible, but you're limited to three, let's say, markers, three different colors.
01:55:36.860
So, we, the Christian community, because, and rightly so, we are based, we are anchored into the biblical narrative, we assume that everything that happens around us in the universe has a direct explanation inside of this text, the 66 books of the Bible.
01:56:04.860
So, every kind of being that one might encounter in the universe, therefore, would have to be an angel, a demon, a human, or God, basically.
01:56:23.020
So, you've got, like, four colors here that you can use to color in this portrait of reality.
01:56:33.840
So, we have this desire, and we feel that we are constrained to explain everything, all of reality, the compendium of reality, using four terms.
01:56:56.200
The compendium of all consciousness in the universe.
01:56:59.320
We feel constrained to describe all of it with four words.
01:57:09.540
I think we can, we can disabuse ourselves of this constraint.
01:57:15.800
We can take the word demon, and we can apply it accurately to where we see demons in the New Testament, the Old Testament, New Testament, really, and understand that that's a thing.
01:57:27.220
And then we can take this term angel, not fallen angel, by the way.
01:57:31.700
That's, I understand what the term means, but that's not a biblical term.
01:57:33.980
So, we take this term angel, or sons of God, and we can slot that over here where it's appropriate because we can understand it in regard to the biblical narrative.
01:57:49.020
We can put all of those in their places and then allow for a whole panoply of other things to exist also.
01:58:03.620
So, there is no reason in my mind, there's no rational, no justifiable rationale in my mind to associate a New Testament unclean spirit, which is a demon, with a gray alien.
01:58:38.060
Is it entirely mechanical or the product of artificial intelligence?
01:58:46.760
It's some sort of a cybernetic biological creature.
01:59:06.000
But that's just, I mean, there's no way to answer that question definitively one way or another.
01:59:10.900
But what we can understand is the disposition of the gray.
01:59:22.040
So we can answer those three questions definitively.
01:59:31.380
The grays are occupied, for the most part, with processing abductees.
01:59:44.620
So I have a friend who is an abductee who reached out and grabbed a gray by the neck and squeezed its neck to choke it.
01:59:52.740
But she went unconscious, which is always going to be the case.
01:59:56.080
But let's assume that maybe this gray, for whatever reason, could not incapacitate her.
02:00:01.800
Could she have choked that thing to death or snapped its neck?
02:00:11.320
And when I say we know, and I'm, of course, referencing the abduction material and people who are being abducted who continue to talk.
02:00:18.380
So it feels like, Tim, if we just turn this corner within the scientific community and we started dedicating resources to being able to resist the mechanism that they use to cast us into a hypnosis state or put us into a paralysis state, whatever it is, that we could head kick the little ones, leg kick the tall, skinny ones, and end this entire situation.
02:00:43.480
That if they just didn't have that one, because everything is like, they are weak and thin and frail.
02:00:50.820
And oftentimes when people come to, I've heard stories where they seem worried.
02:01:03.880
And then I've also heard several accounts of that from modern day abductees.
02:01:07.760
You could resolve this whole problem with the shotgun.
02:01:10.020
If you could, if you could, if you could interrupt their technology, if when they came to get you, rather than you being, which is almost always the case, incapacitated, laying on your bed, can't move.
02:01:24.260
I mean, if you, if you could, if you could interfere with the control mechanism problem is part of it is telepathic control, but, but, but let's say if you could interfere with this mechanism, because part of it, I think is, I think a big part of it.
02:01:40.320
The majority of the control mechanism is the implant, but also that there's telepathic control exerted on the abduct as well.
02:01:45.980
But let's say you were impervious to the telepathic control and you've been able to disrupt that technological interference.
02:01:52.700
You're going to, you could, you could, you could, you could dispatch with the greys, uh, until they deploy whatever technology they have from their craft and, you know, and incinerate you.
02:02:04.720
But you could, you could, you could blow the heads off of these things.
02:02:15.480
They're not, they're not like us in that sense.
02:02:24.540
So they're biological cybernetic clones and, and the real, I think organic creatures are the insectulins.
02:02:36.280
Maybe those things bleed a little more like we do, but, um, and those are a little bit more formidable.
02:02:41.900
And like reptilians possibly, would you consider reptilians in the same category?
02:02:46.080
No, I think reptilians something else, but it's so crazy, dude.
02:02:52.440
I want to put this in a nice little box, right?
02:03:00.500
Can you put quantum physics in a nice little box?
02:03:05.360
It depends on if you're looking on the box, looking in the box or not looking in the box.
02:03:13.780
And you've kind of broken down that wall for us again.
02:03:18.080
Um, you just can't, there's just infinite possibilities of what is going on.
02:03:31.660
Don't, don't take these few words that you have at your disposal for the biblical narrative
02:03:35.980
and try to, and try to explain everything going on with them.
02:03:40.340
And there's no, there's no, uh, commandment to do such a thing.
02:03:44.400
There's, there's no, um, there's, there's no reason why someone who subscribes to the gospel
02:03:51.860
of Christ should feel constrained to do such a thing.
02:03:54.320
Um, I certainly don't, a gray alien is a gray alien and, and why does it have to have anything
02:04:04.280
Number two, um, it, it, now can we understand, can we, can we make an evaluation in regard
02:04:22.360
And that's probably not the best word that I'm looking for here, but, but yes, we can.
02:04:26.480
What they're doing is, what they're doing is nefarious.
02:04:30.760
And what they're doing, they're not asking our permission to do it.
02:04:34.800
I mean, not each individual abductee, they're not, um, apparently nothing they're doing
02:04:47.220
There isn't, there aren't any real abductees, not contactees, abductees who want to be abducted
02:04:55.360
Um, you know, it's, it's people are being taken against their will.
02:05:00.180
And, and, and obviously this is nefarious, obviously this is an enemy, this is an enemy.
02:05:11.720
I mean, there's not a whole lot more we can know than this is what they act like, this
02:05:18.500
And based on what they, what they act like, their disposition and what they do, we can,
02:05:23.400
we can make certain determinative, determinative, um, statements like they're physical and
02:05:33.680
And again, we're referencing specifically the grace.
02:05:40.240
Um, they, they create screen memories in the minds of the abductees.
02:05:48.800
They're screwing their, they're, they're implanting their fetuses into the wombs of our females.
02:05:57.420
If you ask me, that's, that's, that's, you know, that's pretty, uh, uh, cunning and, and
02:06:05.920
certainly, um, certainly infringes on any, any notion of human freedom.
02:06:12.380
And, and, you know, um, it's, it's contrary to our will, certainly.
02:06:19.400
So, um, it's not difficult to draw the, what I think is the obvious conclusion that the
02:06:27.620
And, and, and, and I would say more, more specifically the insectilines are evil bastards
02:06:34.000
because the greys, I'm not sure if the greys are even conscious.
02:06:38.260
They may be, they very well, maybe, I don't know, but I, I'm pretty sure the insectilines
02:06:43.080
So, um, for those who don't know, the insectilines are the managers of the abduction program.
02:06:48.700
If you're abducted, brought onto a craft, sometimes you'll encounter them, but they are the managers.
02:06:55.680
Now, somebody controlling the insectilines, maybe, maybe, maybe the Nordics are, I don't
02:07:00.480
But, um, uh, I think we're dealing with at least four kinds of beings, probably more, but
02:07:08.180
I, I think I can say pretty concretely that we're dealing with four.
02:07:11.020
And I was pleased that my friend, Richard Dolan actually has the same assessment.
02:07:18.720
We're dealing with greys and the gray faction really does include the insectilines, but let's,
02:07:23.600
for the sake of, uh, clarity, the insectilines, the greys, the reptilians, and the Nordics.
02:07:30.880
And I happen to believe that the Nordics are the angelic race.
02:07:45.800
So if you think they're an angelic race, are you saying, uh, like what, what exactly does
02:07:51.820
And, and then that, that also does that lend itself to these other things being possibly
02:07:56.740
like, like, like I was saying before, uh, influenced by something that's not angelic.
02:08:05.840
If, so if, if one is an angelic race, what do you mean by that?
02:08:09.000
Well, uh, in my book, I've heard of these beings as the elder race.
02:08:14.120
In other words, they're older than the human species.
02:08:18.920
And, and if you read my book, you'll understand why I say this.
02:08:22.600
We look like them because we're sons of God as well.
02:08:26.840
So we're, they were, they were part of the same family.
02:08:29.780
Now there are apostate sons, many apostate human sons, and certainly, uh, a lot of apostate
02:08:39.000
Now, because I use the word angelic, I'm not, that doesn't mean ethereal.
02:08:43.620
So it's, um, uh, and people say, well, aren't they spiritual beings?
02:08:51.820
Because spiritual is not supernatural, by the way.
02:08:55.920
There is no such word in the Hebrew Bible or in the New Testament.
02:09:00.120
Word supernatural is not a biblical term, much like fallen angel.
02:09:04.420
Now I get what people mean by both supernatural and fallen angel, but these are not biblical
02:09:10.020
Um, uh, supernatural means above or beyond nature.
02:09:13.980
And I don't think that, I don't think, I think there's one being who's above and beyond
02:09:19.400
Everything else is within the universe and has to abide by the laws, the same laws of physics
02:09:31.960
So, um, so the, the, these are, these are a race of beings who exist in the, in the universe
02:09:41.120
who are not human, but are, are affiliated with the human race because they are members
02:09:49.560
I mean, they're, they're members of the divine family.
02:10:01.840
According to Jesus, that's called the resurrection.
02:10:03.300
So we're, we're on the path to being returned to the father's house and becoming sons of God
02:10:09.520
of God again, like Adam was, um, and being reunited with our family, i.e.
02:10:13.920
our older siblings, our elder siblings, the elder race.
02:10:16.900
But that's not to say that all of these older siblings are good.
02:10:20.720
A lot of them are apostate, just like a lot of human beings are trash.
02:10:27.740
So, um, uh, this is, I, I, when you, there are some very,
02:10:33.300
very unhelpful terms, I think that have, you know, cause a lot of confusion.
02:10:38.940
And, and, and one of those terms is supernatural.
02:10:41.260
I don't, uh, I don't, I don't take issue if people use the term supernatural because I know
02:10:45.620
what they mean, but I think that word is, uh, engenders a lot more confusion than it does,
02:10:52.640
So don't misunderstand me when I say an angelic race, I'm not talking about some ethereal,
02:11:01.220
I'm talking about a race, a bonafide race of beings who pre-exist us and who have, and
02:11:11.240
who hail from a civilization that is much more advanced than ours.
02:11:14.600
Indeed, I would say this is the kingdom of heaven.
02:11:17.880
So, um, they're in play and have been in play since the beginning.
02:11:22.520
That's why the premise of ancient, ancient aliens is in fact accurate.
02:11:28.920
If you subscribe to the Bible, then you know, they're in play.
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I think the evidence is very, uh, is overwhelming really in regard to the existence of the greys.
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In regard to the existence of the reptilians, not so much.
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Although, I do subscribe to the notion that such a race exists.
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Are they extraterrestrial or are they, are they a primordial, uh, terrestrial race?
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So, um, you know, it's complex and, and it's like, there's no way you can really simplify something so complex.
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You just have to deal with it and embrace the complexity.
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Um, and then, you know, stop trying to, stop limiting yourself to three markers, three crayons, uh, when, when attempting to color in the contours of reality.
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I love, I like, I like doing our show where we can go off the rails, but I like it even more when somebody can come on and really, uh, you know, give me something that's going, that I'm going to think about for the next week, probably a month or so.
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We said that like an hour and a half when we, before we started and we're like two 10, I hope you didn't have anything to do.
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Um, and let me, let me, let me make it clear, by the way, that I do believe that, uh, I do believe that Nephilim are still around, uh, giants.
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Uh, you mentioned earlier, uh, you mentioned earlier, the Kandahar giant story.
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I'm telling you that's, that, that story is a hundred percent true.
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Um, uh, or at least, at least the, the, uh, um, the elements of that story are a hundred percent true.
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Let's say, uh, I, so I do believe that Nephilim are still around.
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It's not that I don't, that I don't believe in Nephilim.
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And I do believe that, uh, that the unclean spirits, the, the, the, the, these, the spirits of dead Nephilim are still around and still demon possession is, is actually real.
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Although I don't think it occurs as much as people think, but, but, cause there's a limited amount of these things.
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Those things are real and they have their place in their category.
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There's no reason to assume that these other things are even directly associated with those.
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I haven't heard any compelling theories though.
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Um, however, again, to just highlight this last thing, I do believe now, if you want to say, are aliens fallen angels?
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Are, are, aren't angel, aren't aliens just demons?
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It would, it would be more, are aliens, uh, Nephilim being product of the product of fallen angels and something else?
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Well, I mean, so, so, so this is part of this, what I was about to say.
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So, so are, uh, what, some of what we're calling aliens and extraterrestrials are those quote unquote fallen angels?
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I think the answer to that question is absolutely yes.
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Are the greys created by, manufactured by the quote unquote fallen angels?
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Um, uh, are the insectilines the fallen angels?
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Are they created or controlled by quote unquote?
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I hate the term fallen angels, but I'm using it for clarity's sake.
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Are they controlled by or created by the fallen angels?
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Um, and, uh, and I think there may be some truth there.
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Uh, I don't know, but, but so, so hopefully this, this is, um, making sense to people.
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I just don't think that aliens are demons in the biblical sense.
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And again, uh, so the last sentence that you said there, we, we, this is what we've been
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The only thing that we've been doing is explaining it like a bunch of retards.
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Um, it's, it's important to differentiate because it's true.
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Like if we, if we're going to be battling what certainly is an enemy, like a bunch of
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Now people are going to, they're going to discount everything we said and just fixate on the fact
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But if you're going to, like I said, like you were saying, they're certainly an enemy
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It should, we should be specific about what they are.
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If there indeed is some kind of a culmination coming to a head or a battle or something with
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them, mixing them up doesn't really help being specific about what they are, what they do,
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So yeah, we should for the listener base, take that into account.
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Swallow your ego or whatever you were thinking before, take into account what he's saying.
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There's a lot of things out there, you know, Bigfoot's out there somewhere.
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So, um, you know, I mean, we're, we're not, we're not the only players in the game.
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We're not the only conscious beings in the universe.
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That doesn't change the narrative of, of the Bible.
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It, and it absolutely does not change or alter the gospel of Christ at all.
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And for some reason, people think, think it does.
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Uh, I mean, there's something called sons of God, angels that doesn't change the gospel.
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They're non-human, extraterrestrial sentient beings.
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They are, there's no, no one could, I don't care who you are, how many letters you have in
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front of your name, there's no getting around the fact that angels in the biblical sense
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So, um, and I think, uh, I think, you know, put a little bit of thought into it.
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Um, angels were not created on planet earth and, and anyone who thinks they were is just,
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I don't know where they, I don't know where they would, uh, where they would draw that from.
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That, that, that, that, that, that would be a very, um, that would be a very extra biblical
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conclusion, certainly to think that angels derive or, or were our earth-born creatures.
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I mean, that's, that class of, of beings breaks that paradigm immediately.
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So if you, people who say, well, wait a minute, if aliens exist, then what about this?
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Well, you already have that problem with angels.
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Alien, the existence of other beings doesn't, doesn't, um,
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You already have that problem with the angelic race.
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So, and it's very clear that, uh, um, that Jesus did not die for the angels.
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He died for the human species, for the sons and daughters of Adam.
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And even the Catholic Church is, is, uh, wrestling with, with this imagined obstacle.
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It's, it's, it's, it's irrelevant, really, because the, the, we've, we've been, we've
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been unintentionally, unconsciously grappling with this very same problem for many centuries.
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There are other extraterrestrial sentient beings in the universe, period.
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We, no one, no, no, no Bible literate Christian could ever, ever, um, contend with that statement.
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And to further your point, uh, I, like, like you said, it doesn't weaken the narrative of
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I think it, it actually strengthens it because there is something about our birthright and
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what we're given and what everything else in play here wants, because everything want,
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everything that you've been describing seems to want one thing, the similar thing.
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And it's been given to us and then even further consecrated, given to us even further by
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So it's, it's, it's, it's a, man, a very interesting thing to really, I would encourage
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If you're confused, if you're wondering, if you think I'm a heretic or whatever, go read
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I, I, I take great pains in that book to, um, to describe as, uh, as articulately as I possibly
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And, um, I think, you know, for, for people who are confused, um, I think it would help
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a lot if you really want to understand where I'm coming from here.
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Cause I, I provide all of the, all of the, um, scriptural references and, and, uh, you'll
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see, you'll see what I mean, which you can get on Amazon by the way.
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I, we actually have your, uh, links in the, in the description for all the videos here.
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Tell the people where they could find you and anything else that you want to let them
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Um, I have a website, timothyalbrino.com, um, YouTube channel, timothyalbrino, um, Instagram
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Um, subscribe to my mailing list, my email list on my website.
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I've been working on a lot of stuff and, uh, I've got some exciting projects that I'm, I'm
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concluding and that are going to be released before long.
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So, um, subscribing to my YouTube channel is also a great way to, uh, all of it, the social
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I know I get a lot of, uh, I, I get a lot of worth out of following you.
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And what you're doing, and I'm glad to see that you're like even more active on X.
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I feel like that's where a lot of the new dialogue is going to be taking place.
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Um, and again, thank you for coming and talking to us.
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You probably shouldn't have, uh, I knew I liked you guys immediately when I saw your
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We like Vinny Padman, but we always, we always trick people on the way in.
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I mean, if you have anything new, hopefully we can grow the show to a point where it's
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even more respectable for someone like you to come on and maybe we can introduce you to
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people that don't know you for some reason that if they know us and not you.
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Um, but anytime, uh, again, guys, end of the month, catch us with, uh, we're doing a show
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Um, yeah, don't forget to go to Sam Tripoli.com, click on March 30th, come see us in Summerfield
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We've developed quite an awesome community there.
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The greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.
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It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.
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If you can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see, you
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Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's