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00:04:57.180 Izzy, what's going on, man?

00:04:59.180 Tell us about yourself.

00:05:00.720 Well, first of all, this video is brought to you by Ghost Energy.

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00:05:07.440 No, I'm kidding.

00:05:07.900 I'm kidding, obviously.

00:05:09.180 Wow, wow, wow.

00:05:11.340 No, so, you know, I just- I was supposed to have an interview with Bob Larson last week, and then that went complete sideways.

00:05:19.940 Did you guys get to watch that, by the way?

00:05:21.800 Because it was nuts.

00:05:23.740 No.

00:05:23.900 No.

00:05:24.280 What happened there?

00:05:25.840 Oh, he wanted to ambush me, live.

00:05:30.380 How so?

00:05:31.040 He got mad at me because- so, here's what happened.

00:05:35.320 It was supposed to be a discussion, and then the emails, because I was talking with his assistant, and then it eventually boiled down to this.

00:05:43.600 Four hours away from doing the debate, well, debate, right?

00:05:48.840 Because it wasn't called a debate until I happened to look at his thumbnail in big, bold letters.

00:05:52.860 It said, debate with Izzy Centric, and I was like, what the hell?

00:05:56.760 And so I went- 0.98

00:05:57.960 Dude, we almost got suckered into a debate with fucking Jay Dyer, and it was supposed to be an- it was his strangest thing. 0.96

00:06:03.860 Like, it was an interview, same thing, and then all of a sudden we got into a fight, and he was like, well, now it's a debate. 0.98

00:06:09.120 And I was like, wait a second, wait a second.

00:06:11.180 I run ads. 0.99

00:06:12.580 I don't fucking do debates, bro. 0.99

00:06:14.080 Well, that's what- so that's what I told the guy who was- who had apparently picked me. 0.98

00:06:20.100 He was just looking for someone controversial, and it was really weird because, I mean, Bob Larson is the kind of guy- he's been around for a long time, and I actually gave Larson my phone number.

00:06:31.360 We talked for like- well, it was almost 15 minutes, and Larson is one of the first things he said was, well, what's your deal?

00:06:37.760 What's going on?

00:06:38.500 Why are you not joining me?

00:06:39.700 And it was just- it was so weird.

00:06:42.000 It was so serious.

00:06:42.660 Joining him in what?

00:06:43.540 What is the debate?

00:06:44.500 I don't understand.

00:06:45.340 The debate was, I believe in reading the Book of Enoch, and he got pissed off about that apparently, and then I called him out in the phone call saying, well, you've got Alexander- well, I didn't say Alexander Pagani, but that's another one, and Isaiah Saldivar, the guy's in the deliverance ministry space.

00:07:03.200 I don't know if you guys are familiar with him, but me and Isaiah are actually the same age.

00:07:08.720 So I'm sitting- and I'm not part of the deliverance ministry space.

00:07:11.200 I, you know, I'm a- I study demonology well on the other side in another corner.

00:07:14.660 I don't believe in associating myself with a specific corner.

00:07:17.280 I'm just among the body of Christ.

00:07:18.800 I don't like getting into the nitty-gritty with, you know, I'm with this sect or that sect or whatever.

00:07:24.520 Well, that sect, it seems, we talk about it on the show, that sect seems like people that kind of don't want to, don't want to explore what's actually going on.

00:07:34.620 They're very happy in their box.

00:07:36.100 And as a, you know, as a Christian, before I kind of started learning about this stuff, you, you do feel a little bit disenfranchised because it's kind of like, you guys have this book here and these extra biblical books.

00:07:48.160 And you kind of just don't want to look at any of this stuff.

00:07:51.300 Just, I don't know.

00:07:53.820 Well, yeah.

00:07:54.640 I mean, I even told, I was telling Larson, I was like, you know, the book of Jude quotes Enoch directly, right?

00:08:00.360 And he was like, well, we could talk about that on my show if you want.

00:08:04.040 And I was like, okay, but you want to debate me and I don't want to debate you.

00:08:08.240 You're going to have a really hard time fighting me because I'm not going to fight you.

00:08:12.000 Yeah.

00:08:12.240 See, if to debate insinuates that you're both coming from like opposite ends of the spectrum and, and this is all brought together by an argument.

00:08:20.480 And it's like, well, honestly, you probably agree on this.

00:08:23.540 Is how I felt with Jay Dyer.

00:08:24.480 It's like, he said that he wanted to debate me and I go, I struggle to see where we even disagree.

00:08:30.580 And maybe you'd say something to me that I don't agree with.

00:08:33.840 And I'd go, huh, that's interesting.

00:08:35.800 Such a, you know, interesting thing to consider, but that's about all you're getting out of me.

00:08:39.960 The idea that I would like bury my heels in and go, no, you're definitively wrong.

00:08:44.340 And here's why just in a realm where we're all kind of trying to interpret this reality that we inhabit.

00:08:50.660 It seems wild, such a wild thing to engage in.

00:08:53.500 Yeah.

00:08:53.900 It's, it's strange, man.

00:08:55.420 I don't understand because, you know, Jesus asks the disciples, is Christ divided?

00:09:00.360 You know, no, no, excuse me.

00:09:01.640 Paul said that, but Jesus said, uh, the kingdom of Satan is not divided against itself.

00:09:06.800 So like if, if we're sitting here getting defeat, hopefully not defeated, but attacked by the demonic.

00:09:12.500 And then Christians can't even get along with each other. 1.00

00:09:15.120 No wonder why there's over what?

00:09:16.600 45,000 denominations now in the world.

00:09:20.280 Yeah.

00:09:21.480 You know, what's really interesting about that?

00:09:23.240 You can draw a, and this is probably as far as the correlation could be drawn, but I do recognize there's an interesting parallel between what people identify as the left versus what people identify as the right.

00:09:37.900 And the reason I say that is because obviously there's a lot of nuances within these things.

00:09:43.040 A lot of people on the left would say, we don't claim people who want to do drag queen story hour, right?

00:09:48.700 Those are our people.

00:09:50.000 But if you look at it, it's like they are a united front.

00:09:53.220 And then the right is very busy nitpicking over, you know, various different things, um, uh, having to do with the Republican party.

00:10:01.300 So it just seems like the left may have a bunch of different views.

00:10:04.920 Are you comparing the left to literal demons and the right to the Christian body?

00:10:08.940 I mean, in this particular case, it does draw an interesting parallel.

00:10:13.100 So, well, that's actually, it does draw an interesting parallel because, you know, and I see, you see where Ben Shapiro, yeah, I'm bringing him in.

00:10:22.440 Sorry, guys.

00:10:23.560 He's brought in, he's tried to become like the face of the right with the daily wire.

00:10:31.220 And then when he made that joke about Jesus Christ, and then he added to it by saying, don't nail me with the picture with Jesus hands up.

00:10:37.880 I was like, well, he just, he just lost a lot of followers because a lot of, a lot of people that you don't even have to be Christian nationalists to appreciate some of the daily wire stuff.

00:10:46.380 Hence why even Candace Owens was a part of them at one point.

00:10:49.160 But then when it just started going off the hinges and it's just, I think people were forgetting over time that, um, Ben is not a Christian.

00:10:59.860 So it seems, it seems worse than that though.

00:11:03.060 Like, I mean, over the past year, it went from like, well, they're not Christians and they don't agree to agree with us to like, I feel like you openly hate us.

00:11:12.780 Like you openly mock us and literally do hate Christians specifically.

00:11:18.460 But like, I don't know, white people it's, it's for me, for somebody who is an online racist there, my perceived racism that's coming off of them makes me uncomfortable. 0.98

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00:11:34.560 Like, that's awful, man. 0.96

00:11:36.640 Like, what did I do to you?

00:11:38.520 There definitely seems to be something.

00:11:40.320 And I can't help but wonder, we talked about it on the last episode, no matter how much Candace Owens, who I tend to agree with, I enjoy her.

00:11:49.440 I enjoy her character too.

00:11:51.180 Um, but it does feel like a character.

00:11:55.020 And then recently she slipped in this whole like Christ consciousness thing where I'm like, all right, I don't know where we're going.

00:11:59.900 But this whole thing feels like an orchestrated.

00:12:01.900 And I want to get into, uh, the demonology because we did have an interesting episode with, uh, Tim Albarino, who we actually did kind of get in the weeds a little bit about the nature of, he's saying not everything is demons.

00:12:16.980 Not everything is the fallen and I'm saying, yeah, there probably is a lot more nuance.

00:12:21.460 We just don't have the, the book.

00:12:22.900 But before we, before we get there, I do want to mention.

00:12:26.300 Go ahead.

00:12:26.740 Sorry, Izzy.

00:12:27.280 You're actually the perfect follow-up guest to Timothy because we, it was a struggle session almost for like two hours where we're kind of like, we're kind of making jokes about the Nephilim. 0.85

00:12:37.880 We're saying, um, well, the aliens might be, you know, the Nephilim. 0.88

00:12:42.460 And he's kind of like going back and forth.

00:12:44.220 He's like, no, no, no.

00:12:45.420 Then we ended up in a weird place.

00:12:46.920 Like, well, there are so many classifications of these things.

00:12:51.000 Where do we begin?

00:12:52.400 And he kind of said, they possibly are Nephilim.

00:12:54.940 So Nephilim, I know that you're big on like fallen angels are not Nephilim.

00:12:58.000 Correct.

00:12:58.940 They're, they're the fathers.

00:13:00.640 The Nephilim are the children. 1.00

00:13:01.740 And then in that, in that category of Nephilim, there's so many subcategories that you can peek down.

00:13:07.240 Like, um, Tony Merkel likes to go down the roll, the, the rabbit hole of, uh, cryptids being Nephilim, like Bigfoot, stuff like that.

00:13:14.620 And I'm like, Hey, I, I'm not sure.

00:13:16.380 Maybe.

00:13:17.000 So you're the, you're the perfect guy to come on after Tim.

00:13:20.820 Tell us about this stuff.

00:13:22.220 What have you learned in your travels?

00:13:24.580 Okay.

00:13:25.080 Well, first of all, I have yet to bump into an angel slash alien, which I believe that.

00:13:31.340 So, and I, I, I mix this up sometimes angel and alien.

00:13:35.340 And the reason I do that, well, they both start with a, I don't know.

00:13:38.020 I watched, I did one video on, on this topic and I've mixed them up ever since, but here's, here's where it gets really nuanced is that, um, just like there's a difference between fallen angels and demons, there's a difference between different types of aliens.

00:13:52.420 And so you have the grays, which I put in their own category, and then the human looking ones that they call the Nordic aliens that I put in a separate category.

00:14:00.900 Have you guys heard of the Nordics?

00:14:02.880 Yes.

00:14:03.260 The tall whites, uh, blonde hair.

00:14:05.740 Those are fallen angels.

00:14:09.000 Now, not all of them are fallen.

00:14:11.520 This is where it gets weird because Paul himself, Apostle Paul himself goes as far as to say, be kind to strangers because you could be entertaining angels and not even know it.

00:14:22.860 So we have these beings every day that walk right by us and you just, you don't know.

00:14:32.440 And sometimes someone's discernment can kick off and that might not even be a Christian.

00:14:37.720 It could just be someone, cause I mean, we're, we're all, we're all both flesh and spirit, right?

00:14:43.000 We all are.

00:14:43.960 And so some people's spirit kind of just starts to like see things.

00:14:47.720 You see, you got all kinds of people that they get abducted since they were a child and then they, they're never a Christian. 0.98

00:14:54.820 And then they end up in like Stockholm syndrome.

00:14:56.760 You guys know about LA Marzulli?

00:14:59.380 Yeah, we had LA on recently.

00:15:02.880 Really?

00:15:03.420 I didn't know that.

00:15:04.920 Yeah.

00:15:05.240 My grandmother actually was an abductee victim from childhood.

00:15:08.940 And I think that she kind of was one of those people that went the wrong way.

00:15:13.760 Maybe like a Stockholm syndrome.

00:15:14.940 Like you're saying what top is about to bring up is very interesting.

00:15:17.880 Cause I thought of the exact same thing when you first started saying this, they're sort of preparing us.

00:15:22.560 Have you seen this?

00:15:25.420 Yes, I did.

00:15:26.500 Actually.

00:15:27.120 What the hell am I looking at?

00:15:29.000 So there's a condition now where people are seeing people in real life and their faces will, they're doing like a little, like we emoji person to describe what the other person's describing.

00:15:41.200 Eyes go to side of their head.

00:15:42.600 Mouth gets real long.

00:15:44.560 And this is a condition that people are having.

00:15:46.900 And they're, they're saying, oh, it's a medical condition.

00:15:48.760 And I'm like, that's not, it might be demon face syndrome. 1.00

00:15:53.100 It might be a medical condition or it might be fucking demons, dude. 0.98

00:15:56.160 That could be, that could be us looking right through the veil and then just see, uh, they live by John Carpenter. 0.99

00:16:02.620 He puts the glasses on and then he just sees, okay, that's not human.

00:16:06.200 And then he can't, he can't stop staring at him.

00:16:08.840 He's just like, what, what the hell?

00:16:11.180 He's like, he's like, wait a second.

00:16:13.560 So I want to go back to something that you just touched on.

00:16:17.060 Um, you said that you put the grays in a separate category.

00:16:19.860 This was sort of the, the budding of heads that, um, at least I felt that I was having with Alvarino, who is a wealth of knowledge, awesome guest, but is very much, you know, uh, I mean, he's done as much research as he has.

00:16:33.400 And so I think he's very, not set in his ways, but he feels passionately about his positions.

00:16:38.060 But what I was suggesting was, and I'd love to know your take on this, Izzy, um, these grays, do you subscribe to the idea that this is a sort of. 1.00

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00:17:33.120 Biomechanical meat suit that can be inhabited by maybe the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim, 0.87

00:17:41.020 maybe to be able to more accurately interface in a physical way with this realm, with this dimension, with human beings,

00:17:51.480 whereas typically these things are sort of locked in a spiritual realm?

00:17:56.580 Well, years ago, my dad and I came to the conclusion, because my dad's obsessed with Genesis 6.

00:18:02.700 We were talking about it, and I said, I see them as almost like a Nephilim 2.0.

00:18:06.940 Lo and behold, after hearing L.A. Marzulli and hearing, and it's not just L.A., but there are people,

00:18:12.620 listen to the testimonies, like Dolly.

00:18:16.520 The testimonies, over and over again, is like, I saw it, freaked out, and then it was just a flesh suit.

00:18:23.520 Like an astronaut suit.

00:18:26.440 So we need that to, you know, not everyone that subscribes to space, especially like lately,

00:18:31.760 because everyone's questioning everything, which may not be a good thing, but hey.

00:18:36.880 But like the concept of, if we're going to leave this plane of existence,

00:18:40.580 we need something to get out of here, otherwise we're going to be dead.

00:18:43.960 You know, I mean, we go underwater, you have to wear something.

00:18:46.060 Um, so, I mean, yeah, like for demons to actually be able to physically touch us,

00:18:51.480 also, this is extremely important to note as well.

00:18:55.000 The reason why I make that distinction between fallen angels and demons is because demons would be,

00:19:01.220 think about a Nephilim or a demon in their past life. 0.76

00:19:06.240 They would be the perverted image of the face of God, right?

00:19:11.100 They would be half angel, half human,

00:19:13.260 and it essentially, what they were trying to do was corrupt the incarnation.

00:19:17.980 They didn't know how far away Christ would be.

00:19:19.880 They didn't know when this Messiah would come,

00:19:21.480 but they were trying to corrupt the incarnation.

00:19:23.200 That's all they were trying to do.

00:19:24.900 That's why I like studying demonology, because it always points at the light.

00:19:28.080 The darkness points at the light.

00:19:29.380 Darkness is absence of light.

00:19:31.520 So.

00:19:31.720 Do you think, um, do you think the major sin that they, like I,

00:19:36.300 so the fallen angels that were locked away,

00:19:39.360 are those the ones, were those, uh,

00:19:42.180 fallen locked away because they procreated with man?

00:19:45.140 Is that like the major sin?

00:19:47.260 Like, whereas Lucifer did not, he's allowed to still roam.

00:19:50.420 There's still other ones around.

00:19:53.180 Um, yeah, I would say so.

00:19:55.160 I would say so.

00:19:56.180 In fact, um, go as far as to, uh, okay.

00:19:59.080 Like, you know how people compare Sodom and Gomorrah to like today's time.

00:20:03.400 Yeah.

00:20:04.180 Okay.

00:20:04.620 Why hasn't God nuked any of our cities?

00:20:06.640 Exactly.

00:20:08.880 Because it's not, it, why hasn't he flooded the entire earth?

00:20:11.680 Well, he said he'd never do it again, but because the corruption is not there.

00:20:15.080 He's okay with nuking.

00:20:16.860 Um, there was corruption in Sodom and Gomorrah.

00:20:19.340 Um, the angels that keep their home, uh, they did not keep their place of authority,

00:20:23.580 their place of their proper dwelling.

00:20:24.940 They came down and it doesn't say what else they did in the book of Jude, but what it

00:20:29.780 does do is compare that, that those angels, which you can assume is Genesis six, it compares

00:20:36.480 them to the people in their sexual immorality in Sodom and Gomorrah and Sodom and Gomorrah. 0.66

00:20:43.340 What did they try to do?

00:20:44.780 Every man, young and old, all around, uh, the city of Sodom, one of the two angels that

00:20:51.980 were trying to escort a lot in his family out, that's weird.

00:20:56.760 That's weird. 0.98

00:20:57.880 And so I say, okay, obviously like, I don't care how gay you are. 1.00

00:21:02.400 You're not going to be like that man. 0.98

00:21:04.580 Now I'm going to jump on that.

00:21:06.000 Like, no, come on.

00:21:07.580 Let's be real here. 0.69

00:21:08.440 Nobody's that gay. 1.00

00:21:09.840 I mean, you like, you're talking about every man in the city of Sodom.

00:21:13.620 Like, no, they, you know, in the King James, it actually says maybe King James.

00:21:20.740 There's this weird phrase where it says they heap abuse on celestial beings in the book

00:21:26.680 of Jude.

00:21:28.520 It's a really strange one.

00:21:29.960 In fact, let me see.

00:21:31.680 What's that expression again?

00:21:33.200 Heap, uh, heap abuse on celestial beings. 0.95

00:21:35.860 So if we, yeah, uh, Jude one, eight.

00:21:44.560 Like, uh, the ESV, can you guys see me?

00:21:47.380 Okay.

00:21:47.480 Yeah.

00:21:47.820 Okay.

00:21:48.240 So in the ESV, um, it says they blaspheme the glorious ones.

00:21:53.000 In the NASB, it says they reject authority and speak abusively of angelic majesties.

00:21:59.340 In the KJV, it says they speak evil of dignities.

00:22:02.620 But then in the NIV, randomly, it just jumps off the rails and says, rejects authority and

00:22:08.380 heaps abuse on celestial beings.

00:22:10.120 If you read Jude one, eight in the NIV, you're like, wait a minute, were they just slandering

00:22:17.560 these, uh, angels in Sodom and Gomorrah?

00:22:20.120 What else were they doing with them?

00:22:22.320 Raping them?

00:22:23.360 I believe that they were making some sort of deals and prostituting themselves. 0.99

00:22:28.280 I mean, look at the crazy new agers. 1.00

00:22:30.400 Now, what are they wanting to do with the, um, aliens?

00:22:33.760 It's all the same thing.

00:22:35.260 Even Alistair Crowley said today, they call them angels and demons tomorrow to call them

00:22:40.060 something else.

00:22:40.860 We're, we're all talking about the same thing here.

00:22:43.600 Yeah.

00:22:44.260 That's where people, I actually had a bit of an, not an altercation, but some people on,

00:22:48.120 on Twitter today got upset because I was saying that this one, uh, female artists for lack

00:22:55.620 of a better term, she's like this lady that's, that's like full blown, you know, patchouli hippie. 1.00

00:23:00.520 And she's singing about like spiritual awakenings and doing ayahuasca and, you know, communing

00:23:06.720 with aliens and, you know, the pyramids and what they were used for.

00:23:10.740 And she's like rapping, like apparently she's a decently successful artist. 0.99

00:23:15.320 And all I said was something about like, you know, this silly bitch is communing with 1.00

00:23:20.200 Nephilim spirits. 0.99

00:23:21.320 And we kind of throw that terminology Nephilim around real loosely because it's a word that

00:23:27.580 like catches people's attention and gets them to come to the table and go, whoa, what are

00:23:31.060 we talking about here?

00:23:32.340 But.

00:23:33.380 Oh my God.

00:23:34.220 You have the thing.

00:23:34.820 I can't even stand this, but let's play it.

00:23:36.300 I've been healing my soul, child, the best medicine. 0.99

00:23:38.440 I've been learning shit from the aliens. 0.97

00:23:41.080 Like how we're all connected to the pyramids and how we used to use them for. 0.99

00:23:46.300 I can't, she's exhausting. 0.99

00:23:48.100 She's very exhausting.

00:23:49.460 Very, very upsetting.

00:23:50.900 Um, but a lot of people were upset with me because it's this idea of like, oh, do you think

00:23:54.860 that aliens are definitively bad or you can't have a positive experience with, um, some

00:24:00.200 sort of entity after doing DMT or doing ayahuasca or whatever the case may be.

00:24:05.000 And not everything is Nephilim.

00:24:06.880 And I'm like, well, number one, Twitter is not the place for nuance. 0.95

00:24:09.280 I'm just here to make fun of this white woman. 1.00

00:24:10.800 But if you want to get into it, you know, can, can I live, can I live?

00:24:17.840 So, uh, you know, Izzy is much more the, the guy for, for that sort of a speed. 0.99

00:24:22.120 But, uh, you know, these people, the new age movement is having them steamroll towards

00:24:29.640 like, yeah, maybe we can astral project, right?

00:24:32.920 Maybe we can regularly commune with entities through some sort of drug use.

00:24:36.540 If you ask, uh, Jerry Marzinski, who was a clinical psychologist for 35 years dealing

00:24:41.400 with schizophrenia, it's his contention that all drugs are a gateway.

00:24:45.820 It just is determined upon, uh, or the, the, the size of the gateway or the size of the

00:24:51.360 portal or the amount of access granted to the individual by these entities is only determined

00:24:56.340 by basically the, the substance that they're taking.

00:24:59.360 So, you know, if you take that into consideration that these substances are just portals and gateways

00:25:05.700 for these entities to be able to interact with you, I don't really think that any of it

00:25:11.260 is a good idea.

00:25:12.240 I wouldn't tell people not to do it.

00:25:14.380 I mean, you know, do whatever the hell you want to do.

00:25:16.140 That's your lot in life.

00:25:17.460 But, you know, as far as whether or not, uh, all of these things are bad entities or, or,

00:25:23.900 uh, you know, somebody was saying something to me today about, oh, when you take ayahuasca,

00:25:28.600 you commune directly with mother earth, which is like, Hey, that's a hell of an assumption.

00:25:33.640 And also the idea that these things can't deceive you is hilarious.

00:25:38.660 And once you start communing with something that you consider mother earth, how long until

00:25:42.640 you start to like pay homage, worship, idolize this thing.

00:25:46.240 And at that point you just become a pagan. 0.55

00:25:48.260 You're just worshiping creation over the creator.

00:25:51.040 It's, it's, it's a slippery slope, but, uh, I mean, what are your thoughts on, on all that 0.99

00:25:56.020 shit? 0.99

00:25:56.300 Well, um, so I believe that the devil is not a creator. 1.00

00:26:02.200 He's a perverter.

00:26:03.300 So anything that we find, like you guys saw my tweet, um, yeah, you, uh, top lobster, you

00:26:10.160 saw my tweet, um, on demons are not creators.

00:26:13.900 So if a spell works, it's because it's a mystery of heaven.

00:26:17.800 Yes.

00:26:18.400 Yeah.

00:26:18.640 Yeah.

00:26:18.980 Okay.

00:26:19.540 Sigils are a mystery of heaven, like, like supernatural where they're like, where they 1.00

00:26:23.380 quickly panic and draw something in blood.

00:26:25.460 Cause they're, they cut their hand open and draw something on blood and then they smack

00:26:28.360 their hand on it.

00:26:29.240 Now, most of that is fiction, but, uh, there are bits of truth in supernatural that actually

00:26:33.700 really enjoy when I want to kind of turn my brain off a little bit.

00:26:37.020 But, uh, of course not as successful since 2020, my brain is always on now thanks to them 0.97

00:26:42.380 and the bastards and, you know, high places, but, um, as far as far, well, I'll tell you 0.98

00:26:49.560 this too. 0.97

00:26:49.940 My, my studies in demonology only, um, I tripled down on it and cause I wanted to see, okay,

00:26:55.060 it's like, um, if Christ is, uh, getting closer to us, which every day we get a little bit

00:26:59.760 closer, tomorrow's not promised.

00:27:01.480 And then what, what's the devil doing?

00:27:04.040 He's panicking. 0.97

00:27:05.620 So now we have people that are, you know, like shaking their rear ends, their asses up, 0.59

00:27:10.160 up and, you know, what it, like Sam Smith and stuff, which, I mean, you know, so, you 0.82

00:27:17.660 don't, let me, let me get back on track.

00:27:21.320 So let's, let's talk about this, um, chakras. 0.99

00:27:25.000 I do believe that chakras are a thing. 1.00

00:27:27.820 It just so happens that the pagans got to them first.

00:27:32.440 We have centers of the body that, that are, are, um, it's connected to our spirit.

00:27:37.060 So the third eye is also the pineal gland.

00:27:39.920 It's also the thing that, uh, builds up melatonin.

00:27:42.620 And now we're, I'm talking about the physical aspect of it.

00:27:44.780 It builds melatonin in the body.

00:27:46.740 So as the sun goes down, the eye starts to close, builds up melatonin.

00:27:51.820 The person sleeps, the person dreams, depending on where you believe.

00:27:54.560 If you're a more intellectual Christian, you'll probably end up writing off dreams. 0.97

00:27:59.980 Of course, if you're someone like my wife, she'll wake up and say, give me a pen. 1.00

00:28:02.860 I just had a dream about something.

00:28:04.800 I experienced that all the time with her.

00:28:07.120 And so I'm always telling her, keep a notebook nearby and her dreams are intensifying.

00:28:11.220 So that's even scarier.

00:28:12.360 But, um, in fact, she actually had a dream about that boat in Maryland.

00:28:17.280 Whoa.

00:28:17.840 Oh, really?

00:28:18.460 When it, when it happened, she said the only difference was that it was daytime, not nighttime.

00:28:22.020 He said, Israel, that happened.

00:28:24.360 Didn't Ryan Garcia, Ryan Garcia also said, uh, he tweeted some, something horrible.

00:28:30.340 I don't know.

00:28:30.880 So my thing with the Ryan Garcia thing, I don't know if you saw this, Izzy, but, uh, Ryan

00:28:35.420 Garcia is a famous boxer and he had a tweet resurface.

00:28:38.820 Um, he recently kind of went off the rails and was talking about Bohemian Grove, his having

00:28:43.420 attended Bohemian Grove at like two years old.

00:28:45.700 They did terrible things to him.

00:28:47.400 This kid is like a superstar in the boxing world.

00:28:49.780 He's, he's a bit of a phenom.

00:28:51.020 And so somebody dug this tweet up and what does it say?

00:28:54.120 Top of my screen is, is a little, it doesn't mean to play music.

00:28:58.040 It says, uh, something bad's going to happen in Baltimore, Maryland on March 26th, 2024.

00:29:03.220 So the thing that's significant about this is there's no attribution as far as the date.

00:29:08.680 We don't know when he said that.

00:29:10.120 So it could very well be fake.

00:29:11.380 The only thing is he tweeted it and he said, uh, this came from that time when I was saying

00:29:18.680 a bunch of crazy things and it wasn't me.

00:29:21.300 It was the Holy spirit speaking through me or something of that nature.

00:29:23.960 And a lot of my tweets were deleted during that timeframe, not of my own doing.

00:29:28.940 So either he's taking credit for something to sort of aggrandize himself, or this is something

00:29:34.220 that he said, which is, you know, uncanny and, and, and strange to say the least.

00:29:38.580 I don't know if he had a dream, but he had some sort of premonition either that or he was

00:29:41.880 keyed into some sort of information that made him privy to this.

00:29:45.260 But, uh, yeah, very strange thing.

00:29:47.960 I don't know where to place that.

00:29:49.120 He's a strange character in my book too, as, as much as he's sort of spilling all this

00:29:53.480 information out and saying things that conspiracy theorists have been saying for a long time.

00:29:57.480 But now you have this, this, like I said, this phenom, this superstar in the boxing world

00:30:01.240 sort of saying these things, um, unmitigated.

00:30:04.540 It's just, he's just saying all the world's most intense stuff.

00:30:08.680 Yeah.

00:30:09.280 Um, in fact, I actually knew, um, I haven't got to meet him before.

00:30:12.320 I don't know if you guys heard of a man by the name of Ty Jackson.

00:30:14.520 He is a, uh, he's a prophet of the Lord that I ended up meeting, meeting in, uh, 2021 online.

00:30:20.420 And we ended up becoming friends because I'm more of, I'm, I'm, I'm on the teacher side

00:30:24.420 of, of the Bible.

00:30:25.840 And what he'll do is, um, well, if you guys are familiar with them, as soon as he gets

00:30:31.100 a dream or a vision, he'll write it down and he'll document it.

00:30:33.780 He'll put it up on Facebook and he'll screenshot it.

00:30:36.480 And then when it comes to pass, he'll pull it back down and say, ah, predicted this or not

00:30:40.820 predict, but like God gave this to me and so on and so forth.

00:30:43.960 Ty Jackson also prayed over Ryan Garcia like a year ago and said, Jesus, I hope that you bring

00:30:48.940 down the fire of heaven on this man, anoint him with, so, I mean, you're talking about

00:30:55.900 when God does something to you, that's it.

00:30:58.200 You're, you can't undo that. 0.85

00:30:59.940 Everybody thinks this poor guy is crazy.

00:31:01.820 And he, he just received some crazy download.

00:31:05.360 Doesn't really know how to process it.

00:31:06.860 And everyone else around him thinks he thinks he went nuts.

00:31:09.780 Yeah.

00:31:10.240 That's horrible.

00:31:11.220 Yeah.

00:31:11.520 And, um, when, when God wants you to think about this, the devil wants you that much

00:31:15.460 more, that's really interesting because I find it comes this battle where it's just

00:31:21.620 like, you know, who's going to get you first.

00:31:24.280 Yeah.

00:31:24.600 You become, um, almost like a piece on the chessboard.

00:31:27.680 Once you're engaged in spiritual warfare, you're engaged and it's both sides.

00:31:30.880 The story of Joe, right?

00:31:32.680 Yeah.

00:31:33.060 There you go.

00:31:34.280 So it's interesting because I look at the Ryan Garcia thing and it's like when John

00:31:39.940 Cena had his thing recently and the whole world was going, he's having a humiliation

00:31:43.600 ritual and as a conspiracy theorist for over half my life, I would typically love that

00:31:50.380 sort of dialogue.

00:31:50.980 But for some reason, I'm like, when I see everybody saying that I, I tend to pump the

00:31:55.740 brakes and, and fall back behind the herd who continues moving it.

00:31:59.240 So when I see Ryan Garcia being, like I said, unmitigated, nobody seems to be slowing him

00:32:06.560 down.

00:32:07.160 Kanye West did a bunch of crazy things.

00:32:08.760 It was very obvious that they did a lot of, you know, whatever they could to, to quiet

00:32:14.980 him and, and slow the narrative that he was pushing forward to, you know, the point where

00:32:20.520 they threatened to drug him into oblivion and keep him from seeing his children anymore.

00:32:23.340 But here is young Brian, just go, or I'm sorry, young Ryan.

00:32:25.860 Dave, I want to hit the brakes real quick and I want to go back.

00:32:28.820 Um, if you're comfortable, Izzy, just addressing what you said before.

00:32:33.280 Um, so your wife is writing stuff down after she has the dream.

00:32:39.380 Yeah.

00:32:40.380 Okay.

00:32:40.700 Not every single time and she loses notebooks like crazy, but when she does manage to hold

00:32:44.580 onto one, um, she's, she's undiagnosed ADD.

00:32:47.840 She loses notebooks all the time.

00:32:49.160 She's always buying new ones. 0.99

00:32:50.380 Uh, you see those memes of the mothers online that are always trying to buy crap with their 0.98

00:32:54.020 pens and then they lose them the next day. 0.81

00:32:55.640 But when she does manage to do it, yeah, she'll write them down.

00:32:59.080 All right.

00:32:59.720 Um, now the question is if you feel comfortable answering.

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00:33:31.380 What prompted her to do that?

00:33:33.440 Because most people, whatever, from when I've heard people that are writing down dreams,

00:33:39.460 they might be trying to want to remember something specific.

00:33:41.920 Is she having any kind of like abduction scenario?

00:33:45.340 What's going on?

00:33:46.720 Well, I'd have to ask her about the specifics.

00:33:48.980 But what I can tell you is that what prompts her to begin writing is when there is a clear

00:33:56.480 and concise set of events that stand out in her mind.

00:34:02.180 And she will feel the emotion of whoever is around her at the time as if she's really there.

00:34:08.200 Now, every once in a while, somebody might have a really bad dream about something and go,

00:34:12.700 oh my God, I'm so happy that didn't really happen.

00:34:15.680 But, I mean, my wife has had experiences of being in, what was it?

00:34:21.480 She was trapped in someone's car.

00:34:23.540 She had like a wreck or something and woke up and was like, hey, we were leaving Rock Hill.

00:34:28.800 She was like, hey, slow down because I really want to make sure that we don't get into a wreck.

00:34:33.940 I feel like this could really happen to us.

00:34:36.200 And then we saw a car in a ditch.

00:34:39.120 It hit a pole or something and it looked bad.

00:34:42.580 And my wife just started like freaking out. 1.00

00:34:46.740 She was almost shutting down.

00:34:47.940 She was like, oh my God, that could have been us.

00:34:49.220 That could have been us.

00:34:49.680 It's like she was so, it doesn't happen a lot, but when I see it happen,

00:34:54.940 I've learned after nine years of us being together to take it very serious.

00:35:00.360 Yeah.

00:35:00.560 Interesting.

00:35:01.320 It's one of those things where it also exhausts her.

00:35:05.020 So she'll wake up drained from this dream as if she was literally running a marathon,

00:35:11.880 but she's just trying to wake up.

00:35:16.780 Wow.

00:35:17.600 Maybe we need to have her on the show. 1.00

00:35:19.680 She is incredibly shy, but I would love for her to be on any podcast really to talk about it

00:35:26.500 because she is not in the social media space like I am, like not even close.

00:35:31.180 And I'll tell you something else.

00:35:32.440 You know, Bob Larson said something really interesting when he, because, you know,

00:35:35.640 he went on to debate without me.

00:35:36.940 Did I tell you guys that?

00:35:38.680 He debated you without you?

00:35:41.960 Oh, yeah.

00:35:42.780 Yeah, he did.

00:35:43.760 He went and found a bunch of my pre-cut videos and was like, well, his team's pretty good

00:35:49.140 because I see that he, I imagine he talks like, he's like, it's pretty good.

00:35:53.480 I like his production quality.

00:35:55.380 He's really up there.

00:35:55.900 And I'm like, that's all me.

00:35:58.860 I don't have a team.

00:36:01.040 Everything I do is on my own.

00:36:02.500 But he said something really strange where I've never, I rarely even call myself a teacher

00:36:07.620 just because I have a lot to learn.

00:36:10.100 And I try to be as modest as possible when it comes to teaching the scriptures or really

00:36:13.840 anything I know for that matter in the paranormal space.

00:36:16.820 But he said something really weird where it was like, he said, I don't understand these

00:36:21.800 people who call themselves, or I don't understand these people who identify as prophets or apostles.

00:36:29.180 And I'm like, I never call myself either of those things.

00:36:35.000 But my wife has had some prophecies and the, because, you know, in the Bible, it says that

00:36:43.040 when two people are married, they're one flesh.

00:36:44.480 So when I saw prophet and I saw apostle, I was like, okay, I can, I can see the prophet

00:36:52.120 because, because I don't have prophecies.

00:36:54.040 And I was like, oh no, I had a demon in 2020, back when I used to ghost hunt, randomly say

00:37:03.260 minister and this document, I'm looking at my, I'm looking at the little device where the

00:37:09.220 spirit speak through and I go, oh, I'm no minister.

00:37:11.780 Well, I'm something of a minister now, four years later.

00:37:16.440 So it's just those weird things where he, I truly, truly believe Bob Larson's discernment

00:37:23.180 went off and he just said what he believed the Holy Spirit was telling him.

00:37:26.660 Cause I do believe Bob Larson's a Christian.

00:37:28.420 I believe he also has upset God for obvious reasons.

00:37:31.140 He even admitted that his ministry is going downhill.

00:37:33.640 But, um, him saying that I was, I, I turned to my, uh, crowd.

00:37:39.420 I had the, uh, guys on my chat cause I was blind reacting to my, to my own, you know, his

00:37:44.740 critique of me.

00:37:45.860 I turned to everyone.

00:37:47.080 I was like, uh, that was weird.

00:37:50.180 I don't like that.

00:37:51.840 I do not like that.

00:37:53.240 It's weird because when God wants you to do something, he wants you bad enough.

00:38:02.480 He will crush you like a, like a piece of clay and then turn you and twist you and then

00:38:08.600 turn you into something better, but it hurts.

00:38:12.460 And I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.

00:38:14.700 I apologize.

00:38:15.240 Go ahead.

00:38:15.640 No, no, I was just going to say, it's interesting when you find yourself in this space, you know,

00:38:20.060 we've accumulated an audience based off of looking at the supernatural and the conspiratorial

00:38:27.460 through the Christian worldview.

00:38:29.260 And you end up sort of amassing people alongside you and, and taking them on this walk with you

00:38:37.260 to this weird place, you know, where you're learning all these things together.

00:38:40.860 And in a way it feels like you're leading, you know, you're leading people to, to God. 0.87

00:38:50.140 And, but on the other hand, we are constantly reminding people that we are retarded. 0.98

00:38:58.940 Both top and I are completely retarded. 0.95

00:39:01.900 And so it's a weird place to find yourself in because people do look at us, not necessarily

00:39:10.100 as like leaders or anything like that, but like they're refreshed to find people whose

00:39:15.680 worldview aligns with theirs.

00:39:17.320 And at least like we get to be sort of a mouthpiece for them, you know, where we get to interview

00:39:21.660 people like you and, and hopefully they find it interesting and it aligns with, you know,

00:39:26.520 where their heart is bringing them, which ideally is where God is leading them.

00:39:30.080 Uh, but they don't know, or maybe they do know that the people they're walking alongside

00:39:34.820 are completely retarded, but you were talking about your, your wife and her, her sort of 0.97

00:39:40.200 these, um, I guess, prophecies, right? 0.94

00:39:42.660 Uh, because it is interesting, like kind of adding into what you were saying, Izzy.

00:39:46.500 Um, and I think I've told you before, David, when I used to go to church, when I was like

00:39:50.520 still dating my wife, I played guitar in there, had a big falling out with the church at the

00:39:56.100 time of the falling out, one of the elders, uh, a woman came up to me and she like, uh,

00:40:01.200 she was praying for me or something.

00:40:02.840 And then she said, you're going to speak to like millions of people.

00:40:08.340 You're going to be a speed.

00:40:09.220 And at the time I'm like, um, yeah, no, I'm going to do general construction.

00:40:15.000 And then I'm going to drive a truck for the next 10 years.

00:40:18.140 And then I'm not going to do any of them.

00:40:20.460 I'm also going to ignore my artistic talent that I've had since junior high school.

00:40:26.080 And then like, I picked that up, puts me into this space, uh, to the point where then I

00:40:31.420 start talking into a microphone.

00:40:32.640 And then now looking back on it, I have spoke to millions of people.

00:40:37.640 Like if you've taken, if you take the audience sizes of all the shows that I've done, you

00:40:42.560 know, just Tim cast one time was 500,000. 0.95

00:40:45.740 And now I'm thinking about, I'm like that bitch is when she told me that I wanted to, 1.00

00:40:51.280 I wanted to tell her, like, you know, like get slick with her. 0.98

00:40:54.360 She's an elder, but I wanted to be like, yeah, up yours.

00:40:56.660 Like, you know, I'm not doing that.

00:40:58.300 I was, I had one foot out the church.

00:40:59.940 I was like, I'm out of here.

00:41:01.280 Like what happened there?

00:41:02.940 And then you're going to tell me that.

00:41:04.640 And now I'm like, huh?

00:41:06.760 Now here I am.

00:41:08.320 What am I doing here?

00:41:10.460 Right.

00:41:10.980 Well, you would hope that we're at least, you know, when I,

00:41:15.620 I pray to Jesus, I ask to be like guided on a path that is in alignment with his will.

00:41:22.100 Like, and, and that's the most that I can hope for with whatever it is that I'm doing

00:41:26.460 is like, please let me be doing things and showing people things that are in alignment

00:41:32.740 with God's will.

00:41:33.560 And that's, you know, if I can do that, then I'm cool.

00:41:36.360 But, um, you know, Izzy, you're talking about this whole writing down your, your dreams.

00:41:42.840 Right.

00:41:43.460 And I don't know if, if, um, have you ever engaged in that Izzy?

00:41:48.360 What in the whole dream space prophecies?

00:41:50.980 Yeah.

00:41:51.620 No, I mean like waking up and writing down like a dream journal.

00:41:55.100 Um, let, let me reflect.

00:41:57.820 Um, I had one, I had one, um, Jim Carrey retired.

00:42:08.600 Now, of course he's kind of retired now.

00:42:10.700 Right.

00:42:12.000 And even at the time of me having the dream, he retired as the guy that we know him as. 0.96

00:42:16.820 And in the dream, I saw VHS tapes of like his best hits, the mask, um, dumb and dumber 0.57

00:42:26.180 Ace Ventura. 0.94

00:42:27.280 And it was set up with flowers.

00:42:29.260 And I remember weeping and weeping and weeping.

00:42:32.020 I was crying over him.

00:42:34.220 And it was like a, if, if anything, it was, it was never said out loud, like literally a

00:42:40.680 funeral.

00:42:40.980 But when I woke up, I was like, that was so sad.

00:42:43.580 I missed Jim Carrey.

00:42:44.220 And I was like, wait, he's still alive.

00:42:45.240 And so I documented that.

00:42:47.040 It's got somewhere on Facebook where I was like, um, keep Jim Carrey in your prayers.

00:42:50.980 Cause he might, if something could happen to him, I believe it could have been, um, suicide.

00:42:56.840 Oh, that's interesting.

00:42:58.960 Um, but then again, that I am not the kind of person to have those sorts of dreams.

00:43:03.700 So maybe it could have just been a wacky thing.

00:43:05.940 The only way to really test a prophet's words is to see what comes to pass.

00:43:09.380 That's it.

00:43:10.500 Um, but as far as, um, I do have a theory about, um,

00:43:15.120 Deja Vu, I don't know if you guys are familiar with, um, the way that people think of Deja Vu.

00:43:20.360 You ever like, you know, the basic concepts of Deja Vu where you go and experience something

00:43:27.800 and then you're like, no, no, no, no.

00:43:29.340 I've been here before.

00:43:30.640 And then.

00:43:31.100 Wait, wait, wait.

00:43:31.520 Can I just interject for a minute, Izzy?

00:43:33.480 Wherever we're going with this, I got to tell you, this is one of my favorite subjects

00:43:37.080 that have absolutely, it has no depth whatsoever because, uh, um, Deja Vu is the most, I think

00:43:44.300 about it all the time where I'm like, you have a sensation that you're hungry and that

00:43:48.280 makes sense.

00:43:48.820 You're hungry.

00:43:49.300 You eat something.

00:43:50.120 The sensation is because you haven't eaten, you know, you have a sensation that you're sleepy

00:43:54.860 and you go, it's because I'm tired and I need to go to sleep.

00:43:57.520 I haven't slept enough.

00:43:58.660 You have a sensation that time itself has happened in the very way that it's happening

00:44:05.440 right now, but you have been around to experience it before.

00:44:09.680 Everybody knows what that feels like, but that's the end of it.

00:44:13.260 You go, well, I don't know what to do with that.

00:44:15.620 So you throw it away and don't think about it anymore.

00:44:17.840 It's an, it's an absolutely, I think about all the, the only reason nobody freaks out

00:44:23.160 about it is because it happens so regularly and everybody across every culture experiences

00:44:28.680 it, but it is definitionally bizarre.

00:44:32.240 There is no other sensation that will make you feel like, you know what I feel right now?

00:44:36.940 I feel like time's on a loop.

00:44:38.640 Does anybody else feel like time's on a loop?

00:44:40.620 Like what in the world, dude? 0.99

00:44:42.480 Like I feel like I have to shit. 0.99

00:44:43.620 I guess it's just me. 0.99

00:44:45.740 Oh, it feels like time's on a loop again.

00:44:48.240 No problem.

00:44:48.640 Well, have you ever compared Deja Vu to try to remember a dream you just woke up from?

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00:45:22.560 It's very similar in the way that it slips through your fingers.

00:45:27.420 The harder you try to grip it, the quicker it goes away. 0.98

00:45:31.860 And you're like, damn it, get back here. 0.98

00:45:32.660 And you're actively forgetting. 0.99

00:45:34.200 You're forgetting within seconds of remembering.

00:45:37.000 I consider it the same exact feeling.

00:45:41.040 And the reason is because I believe that Deja Vu is simply dreams of the future that you

00:45:47.440 just couldn't remember.

00:45:50.440 You don't remember having the dream.

00:45:52.540 Yeah, you had the dream.

00:45:53.820 You saw the future.

00:45:55.200 And I think people do it.

00:45:56.920 It's the fluoride in our water.

00:45:58.200 I'm telling you.

00:45:58.780 Well, I had a friend growing up.

00:46:02.080 This is the second time I brought him up in two episodes.

00:46:04.520 Shout out to John.

00:46:05.620 It's my childhood best friend.

00:46:07.440 He was before before I was old enough to think that that's weird.

00:46:15.020 Back in like fifth, sixth, seventh grade, he would be like, yeah, I like regularly have

00:46:20.780 dreams and then they come true.

00:46:22.680 But they're very benign.

00:46:23.860 Like one time we were standing on my friend's front porch waiting for him to answer the

00:46:28.840 doorbell.

00:46:29.720 And John goes, oh, I've had this dream before.

00:46:32.340 Yeah, his mom's going to answer the door.

00:46:33.760 And like he's like, yeah, the bird over there, the way it is right now, the sun, the sounds

00:46:38.400 that the up and then his mom opened the door and then that was it.

00:46:41.320 He's like, and that's as far as it goes.

00:46:42.820 But he was able to predict like the next series of very small, insignificant events.

00:46:47.020 And he's like, that just happened regularly.

00:46:48.800 So when I would explain to him what Deja Vu is, it's interesting.

00:46:51.640 You should say that I would say Deja Vu is like a sensation.

00:46:55.840 And he would say Deja Vu comes from the dreams that I had of this very moment.

00:47:02.300 Plus, I was making the joke about it's the fluoride in our water. 0.99

00:47:05.680 You know, you got Alex Jones that says the water's turned the freaking frogs gay. 0.96

00:47:10.820 We could have something in our water, maybe could be in our food, too. 0.98

00:47:16.560 There's no way this is good for me.

00:47:19.440 But if it's if it's keeping the Bob, the body discombobulated from the spirit, no wonder

00:47:26.220 why, like, it's like we're so close yet so far away from the just the basic gifts of

00:47:33.180 God that come to us every day.

00:47:35.720 Because we're not just flesh.

00:47:37.140 We're not just spirit.

00:47:38.140 We're both.

00:47:38.640 Well, some people say that there might be a 13 month calendar, but you can go even simpler 0.86

00:47:45.260 and be like, why the fuck do we keep changing the time every every year back and forth and 0.87

00:47:50.320 forward and backwards? 0.99

00:47:51.460 It's fucking crazy. 1.00

00:47:52.380 It's crazy. 1.00

00:47:53.320 Yeah.

00:47:53.840 It's just to keep you kind of like, like, like slightly off balance.

00:47:57.520 Like you can't ever have your head on straight.

00:48:00.040 Something is constantly nudging you.

00:48:01.520 If your bills or whatever isn't fucking you up, if, you know, general life around you isn't

00:48:06.760 going crazy, if the world isn't collapsing, we're like, we're going to change the time,

00:48:10.300 too.

00:48:10.880 Right.

00:48:11.200 Because God forbid.

00:48:13.640 Izzy, you're saying that we're, you know, we're spiritual as well as physical and you're

00:48:17.640 talking about God's gifts.

00:48:18.560 And this is kind of what I was getting at before with the dream journal.

00:48:20.980 Excuse me.

00:48:21.580 Dream journal is like, I do believe that we have these innate abilities.

00:48:25.960 Like, I think that astral projection is more than likely a capability that human beings

00:48:29.940 have.

00:48:30.320 I think that, you know, premonition through dreams, lucid dreaming probably serves a function

00:48:36.500 if, you know, you're doing it while being guided by God.

00:48:40.840 But these things are so as a society, we were so detached from them.

00:48:45.100 And the only people that have a stranglehold on these functions right now, like astral projection

00:48:49.300 or, or meditation or any of these things, right?

00:48:51.920 Or, you know, you, you said chakras before aligning your chakras and yoga, who has a stranglehold

00:48:56.500 on this?

00:48:56.920 Well, it's the new age movement.

00:48:58.220 And, and, and I'm not, you know, people talk about Christian mysticism and that's

00:49:03.200 like, even that's like, well, man, I certainly don't want to slip into this weird place of

00:49:06.980 like Christ consciousness or some crap like that.

00:49:09.000 Um, which even, you know, who knows, maybe that has his validity.

00:49:11.900 But as far as I'm concerned, you know, Jesus is somebody who, who died for our sins and

00:49:16.720 literally so that we could, you know, find forgiveness and, and go to heaven and that

00:49:21.540 the path is through him.

00:49:22.760 Is that where the buck stops?

00:49:24.080 I don't know.

00:49:24.600 I'm, I'm genuinely at this point afraid to like explore anything else and accidentally 0.99

00:49:30.680 slip into some new age shit. 0.98

00:49:32.360 That's going to send me careening down a cliffside. 0.99

00:49:34.820 Like I have, uh, something that I think is the ability of like some sort of astral projection.

00:49:40.500 I don't like doing it because when I do it, two things about it.

00:49:43.860 One, the overall vibe of the room gets creepy as hell afterwards.

00:49:48.060 And two, it's real, it's really hard to turn off.

00:49:50.660 I can't, I, it's hard for me to go to sleep afterwards. 0.99

00:49:52.600 Cause every time I close my eyes, I still see like shit. 0.98

00:49:56.440 I don't know. 0.99

00:49:57.560 Stars, objects, places.

00:49:59.340 Like I see things and I don't like that.

00:50:01.480 So I don't do it, but it feels like this thing that's sitting on a shelf and collecting

00:50:04.680 dust.

00:50:05.100 What is, what is your opinion on these?

00:50:07.880 I don't know if we're touching on the same thing, but it's like you, you use the word,

00:50:11.440 uh, gifts, gifts from God.

00:50:13.960 But like, are we, how do we even begin to explore them without falling into this, this,

00:50:20.680 you know, swamp?

00:50:22.500 Okay.

00:50:23.080 Well, uh, firstly, my wife actually did astral project for a long time and she never had control

00:50:28.940 over it.

00:50:29.480 She would blink and then open her eyes and be in different places while asleep.

00:50:33.060 And in fact, she actually invaded someone by accident during astral projection and pissed 0.94

00:50:37.800 them off.

00:50:38.380 They were like, what the hell are you doing here?

00:50:39.700 Funny thing though, that person worked at the same pagan store as her.

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00:51:09.660 So it was just, and she never meant to, but the last time that she did it, once again, an

00:51:17.560 accident, she never had control over it.

00:51:20.320 She was kind of zipping around, came back to her body and saw a demon trying to crawl

00:51:24.420 into it.

00:51:26.500 Whoa.

00:51:26.860 Yeah.

00:51:27.500 Well, I mean, if it's a vacant body, right?

00:51:29.840 Yeah, exactly.

00:51:30.840 She rebuked it in Jesus name.

00:51:32.180 And she said, it was the first time I ever confronted a demon.

00:51:34.660 And I will never second guess being able to use your words as power ever again, because

00:51:39.180 I did it.

00:51:39.900 While astral projecting, she wasn't, she was just in spirit, saw her body there, and then

00:51:45.280 she rebuked it.

00:51:46.060 So what, what is the, do you remember what she described it looking like?

00:51:50.800 No, but I will say she can see the stuff I can't.

00:51:56.200 So it's this weird thing where like, it turns into trust in the relationship because she'll,

00:52:01.020 she'll be like, yeah, you know, you don't want to see these things.

00:52:03.680 And I'm like, well, maybe I do.

00:52:05.280 You know, it's, it's, it's kind of hard to scare me.

00:52:08.500 Nowadays, you know, I used to be the ghost hunter.

00:52:10.680 I still don't mind actually using equipment on the paranormal just because I know that the demon

00:52:15.440 to ghost ratio is more like a 10 to one.

00:52:18.220 So you really want to be careful, like doing that and be, be aware of what you're doing.

00:52:23.080 If you're going to do it.

00:52:24.300 I would love nothing more than a demon hunting show where people are just casting things out

00:52:28.620 of homes and stuff.

00:52:29.580 I think that would be the coolest thing you'd watch.

00:52:31.320 Wait a second.

00:52:31.840 You're everywhere.

00:52:32.600 Back up, back up, back up, back up, back up, back up.

00:52:34.480 Can't just let you slip there.

00:52:36.020 Yeah.

00:52:36.280 Yeah.

00:52:36.420 The demon to ghost ratio is 10 to one.

00:52:40.180 I love that statistic.

00:52:41.880 Yeah. 1.00

00:52:42.240 It's like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:52:42.980 You can't just say that. 0.99

00:52:44.260 Oh, sorry.

00:52:45.020 Sorry.

00:52:45.780 Okay.

00:52:46.060 So it's a guesstimate, but no, the reason I say that is because there's only a couple

00:52:50.480 of ghost instances in the Bible, but I do believe, absolutely believe that ghosts are

00:52:54.580 a thing.

00:52:55.940 What is the difference in how does something become a ghost rather than a demon?

00:53:00.800 So ghosts are disembodied people.

00:53:03.120 Demons are disembodied Nephilim.

00:53:04.480 That's it.

00:53:04.920 Basically what you guys believe as far as Nephilim goes.

00:53:08.460 How would somebody become disembodied?

00:53:10.380 Like maybe someone.

00:53:11.500 Um, if they died and I'm not saying like, go like, you know, Patrick Swayze from ghost,

00:53:16.700 but like, you know, just the idea of someone that is kind of on their journey of going into

00:53:22.320 the afterlife.

00:53:22.920 Because first of all, the white throne judgment is not here yet.

00:53:27.340 And people do not have these little separate judgments.

00:53:30.020 You know, you hear in the West, especially they say, oh, you're judged by God as soon

00:53:33.960 as you die.

00:53:35.220 That's not true.

00:53:37.700 When you, when you die, you have a journey to go on and we don't know it because the Bible

00:53:43.800 is for the living, not the dead.

00:53:46.280 So it's just one of those things where I believe, I just believe that ghosts are an anomaly.

00:53:51.660 I mean, look at the disciples.

00:53:53.000 They thought Jesus was a ghost and they, they're ready to jump out that boat.

00:53:56.720 Samuel prophesying nonetheless, when coming up out of the ground.

00:54:00.380 Um, and then of course, Saul not being able to see him because all he's asking the, the

00:54:06.080 witch of Endor is, hey, what do you see?

00:54:08.500 He, he doesn't know.

00:54:10.220 And she's just interesting because I sometimes think that more than likely when it comes to

00:54:16.380 that realm, time doesn't function the same there as it does here.

00:54:20.680 And so when we see a lot of people are like, oh, what, so you die.

00:54:23.220 And then you're just like walking around for hundreds of years, you know, there's always

00:54:27.200 that cliche joke of seeing like the woman in the old timey dress.

00:54:30.380 And it's like, oh, she's just been haunting this place.

00:54:32.220 It's like, I don't know that time works the way it does here, uh, in that realm.

00:54:36.680 You know, I just had like a discussion argument with my mother and my, my father, and I'm not

00:54:43.580 quite sure where I stand on this.

00:54:45.680 Um, so I was just saying like, Hey, you use when, when she's like ministering to somebody,

00:54:51.680 I'm like, you use heaven and hell quite prominently.

00:54:55.520 And I'm like, hasn't worked well for you.

00:54:58.620 Maybe readjust that.

00:55:00.080 And I'm like, and also like, like, it gets me thinking like, what exactly is hell?

00:55:04.360 What, what is heaven?

00:55:05.740 Like, so it's like, you're saying that like, you can't go to heaven if you haven't been

00:55:10.120 judged, but you can't go to hell. 0.59

00:55:12.140 So what goes on?

00:55:14.300 So it's, it's like this, uh, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

00:55:20.480 Now that, that scripture is for the Christians because it's, because Paul is speaking about

00:55:25.000 himself there.

00:55:26.300 So, um, Hebrews chapter 12, verse one, and I'm bad with like, I'm better with phrases

00:55:32.900 of the Bible rather than scriptures.

00:55:35.140 It just occurred to me.

00:55:36.340 That's the first time I was able to pick it off the top of my head, but, um, Hebrews chapter

00:55:40.760 12, verse one says that you guys out, out, out, out.

00:55:44.760 My kids are running rampant.

00:55:46.520 Um, no, Hebrews chapter 12, verse one says that we have a host of heaven.

00:55:51.380 We have a cloud of witnesses above us.

00:55:53.520 Well, look in the early, early church.

00:55:55.120 You have the icons and of the saints.

00:55:58.340 And they, and if you look at Orthodox theology and Catholic theology, they get this right.

00:56:04.680 There is no soul sleep.

00:56:06.740 Soul sleep is actually a very new phenomenon that gave rise in the late Protestant era,

00:56:12.320 probably even as late as the 1800s.

00:56:14.900 So like 300 years after the reformation guys out, out, Sam.

00:56:20.900 It's okay to beat them on camera. 0.78

00:56:22.640 Beat the children. 0.95

00:56:24.080 Don't beat the children.

00:56:26.380 They sound adorable.

00:56:28.120 Thank you.

00:56:29.000 Yeah.

00:56:29.140 But yeah, so now we have, we have the great cloud of witnesses.

00:56:34.840 Um, they're not just angels.

00:56:36.100 There are also saints.

00:56:37.780 This is why, um, the Catholics and the Orthodox Christians both believe that, um, we can pray.

00:56:43.880 We can ask, um, you can ask any of the saints to pray for us and we can pray for the saints

00:56:49.600 because we're active members of the body.

00:56:52.380 We're just in two different addresses.

00:56:53.720 The same way that I can pray for you, you can pray for me.

00:56:58.720 You know, I have a story, um, and, uh, I know Top has heard this before, but our audience has

00:57:05.160 grown substantially, I think, since the last time that I shared it.

00:57:07.760 And I'd be really interested in getting your thoughts on it, Izzy, as to like what it was

00:57:11.900 that I encountered.

00:57:13.060 And I was thinking about it before, because you said, you don't see these things, but

00:57:15.900 your wife does.

00:57:16.840 This was actually something that I saw, my wife saw, and my son saw.

00:57:20.140 So I'll keep it a little bit short-winded.

00:57:22.700 It's, it's a little bit of a long story, but basically, uh, there was a period in time

00:57:27.720 where I packed up my entire family and we moved to Las Vegas from New Jersey.

00:57:32.800 And, um, we aimed to sort of cut a life out there and things just didn't go our way.

00:57:38.300 And financially, it just wasn't working out.

00:57:41.460 So, and I was starting to worry that we might fail at this endeavor and something ended up

00:57:47.820 happening back in New Jersey, uh, a sickness in the family that gave us a reason to go

00:57:53.180 back.

00:57:53.860 But it kind of felt like I hadn't out, you know what I mean?

00:57:57.140 Like, almost like I was looking for a reason and this unfortunate thing happened.

00:58:03.520 And in a way I was almost relieved.

00:58:05.960 And so we go back to New Jersey and I am, uh, sort of plagued by feelings of failure.

00:58:16.280 We land with the in-laws and the in-laws are Jehovah witnesses and they are sort of at odds 1.00

00:58:24.900 with me because I am worldly and all these different things. 0.99

00:58:29.060 In hindsight, I'm like, maybe they weren't so wrong, uh, because I was kind of an idiot 0.99

00:58:33.480 and still am an idiot, but I end up barricading myself in one room. 0.99

00:58:40.000 It's just me and my wife and my son in one spare bedroom that these people were lovely 0.97

00:58:44.840 enough to, to open their doors for us and give us a place to stay while we got on our

00:58:49.080 feet.

00:58:49.500 But instead of being gracious and, and, and thankful, I kind of went inward and just stopped

00:58:57.600 socializing really not a great deal.

00:59:00.260 My wife and my son would be downstairs playing with the in-laws.

00:59:02.640 I would be upstairs in this room, uh, feeling like a failure playing Red Dead Redemption

00:59:08.060 too.

00:59:08.700 And which is a tremendous game.

00:59:10.540 And, uh, so now knowing him, so I heard the story before, but knowing you for a little

00:59:14.940 while longer, extremely unusual for David to not talk to, if someone's in the room, he's

00:59:20.660 going to be talking to you, even if you don't, especially if you don't want him to.

00:59:23.500 So that's strange.

00:59:26.640 Yeah.

00:59:27.340 I, um, I, I not, not regressed isn't, but I, I sort of went inward and I started to live

00:59:35.120 life on repeat.

00:59:36.160 So I would, my wife would bring me up a dish that her, her mother made nonetheless, of which

00:59:41.920 I would not thank her mother.

00:59:43.040 I would take the dish in the room, eat dinner, play Red Dead Redemption, not be around except

00:59:48.420 for just going to work, coming back, rinsing and repeating.

00:59:50.620 Really just a terrible, like very embarrassing.

00:59:54.580 Um, in hindsight, it was like one of the lowest moments that I had.

00:59:57.500 So I knew that I felt like a failure.

01:00:00.300 I guess I didn't necessarily have good tabs on like the depression that was sort of eking

01:00:05.520 into my life.

01:00:06.480 As I think as men, we often don't have a good feel for like that kind of an emotion, like

01:00:11.320 a sadness. 0.81

01:00:11.840 Like I know I'm angry and I know I feel like I fucked up, but I don't feel sad, but I guess 0.87

01:00:16.460 I did.

01:00:17.180 So what ends up happening is like this four night, like horror film, really, where one

01:00:25.940 day I'm playing Red Dead Redemption, eating my dinner, and eventually it's time to go to

01:00:31.040 sleep.

01:00:32.160 And I have this experience where, um, I wake up to someone banging, knocking on the door

01:00:40.600 and I jump up out of bed and I look down out of the window to the front door and I don't

01:00:47.480 see anybody.

01:00:48.520 And it's like, yeah, unfortunately it's like three o'clock in the morning.

01:00:51.860 And I go, I don't think anybody was there.

01:00:55.320 Nobody else seems to have heard this.

01:00:56.880 So I'm a little bit bothered, you know, a little bit creeped out, but I try to go back

01:01:01.760 to sleep.

01:01:02.300 As soon as I drift off, I hear it again.

01:01:04.500 Boom, boom, boom, boom.

01:01:05.240 Um, I get up, I look out the window.

01:01:08.220 No one's there.

01:01:09.080 No one's heard it.

01:01:10.340 I fall asleep again and it happens again.

01:01:13.480 And now I basically stay up till the sun comes up because I'm freaked out.

01:01:17.420 So I keep it to myself because I always say that you see a horror movie and you're like,

01:01:21.660 why aren't they telling each other like that?

01:01:23.220 They saw a ghost. 1.00

01:01:24.080 Like, no, you keep that shit to yourself because there's this feeling that like, if you feed 1.00

01:01:28.240 into it, it's going to get worse. 1.00

01:01:30.220 And also if you bring it up to like your wife, now all of a sudden you have to talk

01:01:33.900 about it.

01:01:34.420 And what is there to talk about?

01:01:35.400 There's nothing to talk about.

01:01:36.200 It's just creepy.

01:01:36.880 And I don't know what to tell you.

01:01:37.960 So I keep it to myself.

01:01:39.480 Next night rolls around.

01:01:40.480 It's not like you have a solution to it just because you talk about it.

01:01:43.780 Exactly.

01:01:44.300 That's really where I'm coming from.

01:01:45.960 And so the next night I wake up to something pulling my arm off the bed and I'm like, man,

01:01:53.880 that's, that sucks.

01:01:56.280 So I've no, I fall asleep. 0.94

01:01:59.580 It happens again.

01:02:01.420 Now I tuck my arm into the blanket. 1.00

01:02:04.440 Like, I'm like, can't get it if you can't touch it, bitch. 1.00

01:02:07.140 And something grabs my ankle this time and pulls it off the bed. 0.99

01:02:12.340 And so I spend the rest of the night till the sun comes up scrolling through my phone.

01:02:16.360 I go to work.

01:02:17.300 Now I'm like running off low sleep, right?

01:02:19.380 The third night, I still haven't said anything to my wife.

01:02:21.500 The third day rolls around, come back from work, eat dinner, play video games, go to sleep.

01:02:25.960 And I have a nightmare.

01:02:28.740 And in this nightmare, I see very clearly this being, this entity that I'm staring at.

01:02:36.760 The entire dream is just me staring at this thing.

01:02:38.960 There's no interaction.

01:02:41.960 There's no movement or anything on my behalf.

01:02:45.380 But I do remember being there for a while.

01:02:47.880 And it's, I'm in a space, a void.

01:02:51.980 So there's no walls or ceilings. 0.95

01:02:53.240 And in the center of it is this, so it's like a dude in the sense that it's got arms and legs and a head and all that shit. 0.65

01:03:07.520 And it's kind of muscular, like enough that it was like, I remember looking at it and feeling intimidated just based off of the muscular structure of it.

01:03:16.340 And it's skin had a sort of a print to it, like a cheetah print, like a gray, but a gray and black, not like a yellow and black, a gray and black cheetah print.

01:03:26.040 And it had canine teeth on the bottom that were actually protruding and hugging its upper lip.

01:03:38.540 And its eyes were like bright red, like, I always say like maraschino cherries, like that kind of a red, like illuminating red.

01:03:46.920 And it was just breathing, like its chest was heaving up and down.

01:03:51.940 It was taking these deep breaths, like it was filled with rage.

01:03:54.220 And that's it.

01:03:55.260 I'm just looking at this thing and there's like a black mist, like all around its legs.

01:03:59.820 And I'm just looking at this thing and that's the whole dream.

01:04:03.220 It's just, it's breathing.

01:04:04.300 I'm looking at it and I'm there for a long ass time.

01:04:06.520 So I wake up that morning to my wife.

01:04:13.080 Well, no, I wake up and everything is kind of normal.

01:04:16.600 And then my wife wakes up and she tells me that she had a, a dream that she starts describing as sleep paralysis, but she doesn't really, she's never had sleep paralysis.

01:04:26.300 So I recognized it.

01:04:27.320 I knew what it was, but she's like, I couldn't move.

01:04:29.180 And I'm like stuck in the bed and I can only move my eyeballs.

01:04:33.680 And when I look over towards you, there is this, you know, monster with black and gray skin and bright red eyes and giant teeth pushing you into the bed. 0.97

01:04:44.340 It's sitting on your chest and it's pinning you into the bed and I can't wake up to, to save you from it. 0.99

01:04:50.280 And I go, I go, wow, that sucks, man. 1.00

01:04:55.200 That's a crazy fucking dream to have. 0.99

01:04:57.220 I just like totally, I'm like really upset about this, but I'm not letting her know because what now what? 0.98

01:05:05.280 I really wish it would stop, but I don't know.

01:05:07.720 So I leave it alone.

01:05:09.760 I don't say anything next day, rinse and repeat, same life, fall asleep.

01:05:14.220 And everything seems cool.

01:05:15.660 I wake up in the morning to my wife taking a video.

01:05:18.260 She's like, hey, hey, look at this video I was taking of you while you're sleeping.

01:05:20.760 And it's like my jugular is like spasming really aggressively, like the blood is pumping.

01:05:26.360 And she's like, yeah, you were struggling.

01:05:28.540 The video was only like five seconds long or 10 seconds long.

01:05:31.160 So she didn't leave me there to suffer.

01:05:32.580 But she was like, I got to show him this because it's crazy.

01:05:35.000 And then she woke me up.

01:05:35.920 And as I'm watching this video, suddenly my son, who's sleeping on an air mattress next to us,

01:05:39.980 sits up and starts screaming about a monster with bright red eyes and big, sharp teeth.

01:05:46.140 And I was like, so I end up praying.

01:05:52.420 This is the first time I ever did this.

01:05:53.820 Praying like desperately to Jesus Christ to please protect my family and to cast this thing out of the home.

01:06:02.320 And it never happens again.

01:06:04.080 It never happens again after that.

01:06:06.400 And so that was like a pivotal moment for me.

01:06:08.800 But I'd love to get your because this didn't feel like a ghost.

01:06:12.280 Right.

01:06:12.660 Like this was not this felt like honestly, to me, it felt like rage embodied.

01:06:18.060 How long before you met me?

01:06:19.500 That's what it felt like. 1.00

01:06:21.440 Shit. 0.99

01:06:22.440 That was so it's interesting because when I met you, I really kind of was like, honestly, I was emboldened by my relationship with you to fully go in this direction. 0.99

01:06:31.400 I was already putting my foot in this direction.

01:06:33.320 But once I met you, it was like off to the races.

01:06:36.020 But this happened and my my coming to God and fully realizing this, like I never denied Christ after that, but I was still slow to like enter this space.

01:06:46.120 That happened in probably 2000 and that would have been 2020, just as as COVID hit.

01:06:58.840 Well, yeah.

01:07:00.280 No, definitely not a ghost.

01:07:05.740 Ghosts, ghosts can't hurt you.

01:07:08.500 Ghosts can't possess the living.

01:07:10.600 Ghosts are simply on a journey and they're not even they don't even belong here.

01:07:14.800 If you see a ghost, it's either God granting someone passage to in order to give a message.

01:07:20.900 My wife's grandmother, so my son's great grandmother, fended off some scary monster in my son's dream and she smiled and waved and then disappeared into a light.

01:07:37.320 And my son, not understanding that she already died weeks before, started screaming, Gigi is gone, Gigi is gone, Gigi is gone.

01:07:45.320 Like he was understanding that.

01:07:47.280 But he was mostly not he wasn't all the way nonverbal, but but he was coming out of being nonverbal.

01:07:53.540 So ghosts do cross through through our world, but they don't belong here.

01:07:59.280 So, and, you know, if Satan can marvel as an angel of light, if he can transform into an angel of light, right, then it makes you wonder what can dead Nephilim do? 0.73

01:08:13.020 Well, they were they were half human.

01:08:16.100 So, you know, perhaps they can pass off as dead loved ones.

01:08:20.920 Makes sense.

01:08:22.120 Doesn't mean that ghosts are automatically demons every single time you bump into one.

01:08:25.580 And that's why it's important to have someone with authority, which is any Christian, any spirit filled believer can test the spirit to see whether it's from God.

01:08:33.520 That's first John four, one through three.

01:08:35.480 But it's important to do that.

01:08:38.040 But, yeah, what you're describing there and and it's happening right when COVID hit.

01:08:43.180 Yeah.

01:08:44.500 I had something similar in 2018 and my wife had asked her projected not that I knew she could do that yet.

01:08:49.880 I just met her, but I woke up with with the bed shaking and feeling like something was following me around.

01:08:56.140 And I also woke up with the thought in my head that my wife was next to me because she used to stay the night with me and then we would kind of fool around and then go to bed.

01:09:03.700 So I swore I woke up like I was waking up like, oh, no, she's next to me.

01:09:08.240 She's next to me.

01:09:09.680 No, she wasn't.

01:09:10.900 She had a dream.

01:09:11.640 She was next to me and she was shaking me, which in turn shook the bed.

01:09:15.720 And then this thing, she could see it.

01:09:18.920 I can't see it because once again, I don't see the stuff.

01:09:21.500 It was floating out of the closet.

01:09:22.800 I'm actually in right now and floating towards me.

01:09:24.700 This black mass, tall, big headed figure was just floating towards me and she was shaking me while on top of me violently because it was ignoring her and going to me. 1.00

01:09:36.360 So I woke up feeling I was in a pitch dark room and I was scared.

01:09:41.060 All I felt was fear.

01:09:42.480 And that's what demons do.

01:09:43.680 They give off fear.

01:09:44.380 In fact, the thing that was bothering you, the first thing it did was scare you and then keep you from sleeping.

01:09:52.340 That's all the signs of these low vibrations that once again, you know, the pagan community snatched. 1.00

01:10:00.460 But it's low vibrations.

01:10:02.300 Demons feed off of low vibrations.

01:10:04.120 Depression.

01:10:04.860 It felt like it was feeding off me.

01:10:06.620 Like it fed off me until it developed enough strength to do what I think was actually sort of a diminishment or not a diminishment.

01:10:15.900 But it was it gained enough strength to show itself.

01:10:19.820 And then that backfired on it because as soon as it showed itself and I knew that it was real, it immediately screwed the whole thing up for it.

01:10:26.380 Because after that, I was like, if this is real, yes, if this is real, then then God is real.

01:10:32.500 And and Jesus Christ is, you know, he needs to save me.

01:10:36.740 OK, and that right there is exactly why demons don't like showing themselves because they know that they they give themselves away.

01:10:45.440 They give away the entire plot to the to the story.

01:10:48.040 Yeah, so they do their damnedest not to show themselves in front of intellectuals, especially if you are a critical thinker, a demon will do everything it can to poke at you from the shadows and not reveal its ugly face.

01:11:02.000 That is so interesting to top.

01:11:04.120 I want to if you remember this.

01:11:06.380 So Izzy was just saying that, like, what can Nephilim do?

01:11:09.320 Right, because they were half human.

01:11:10.680 Do you remember that story?

01:11:11.820 And after this, Izzy, I'd love to get into sort of like I don't know how much you can for us, but to discuss the variation in some of these entities from one thing to another and what the what the difference is.

01:11:26.220 But top, I don't know if you remember that story on Tony Merkel's show.

01:11:30.320 It dragged me down the hallway.

01:11:32.360 Now, guys, I would highly recommend this is actually a very disturbing episode going and finding this episode of the confessionals with Tony Merkel.

01:11:40.500 So it dragged me down the hallway.

01:11:42.120 Basically, this woman whose grandmother had passed away was having an experience where she was seeing her pretty regularly, I want to say.

01:11:54.360 And what this ends up in is this scenario where one day she is underneath her dresser, oddly enough, and she gets out of bed and approaches the dresser.

01:12:05.760 And it reminds me of of the film it where Georgie reaches his hand into the sewers and the clown grabs his hand.

01:12:15.280 Well, she noted that as she's talking to her grandmother, who's beneath the dresser, who several times in previous appearances has convinced her that she is her grandmother.

01:12:25.180 All of a sudden starts to display this like freakishly wide smile, which is interesting, right?

01:12:35.380 Because the Nephilim were said to have had like very wide.

01:12:38.320 If you look at like Attack on Titan, even they kind of play off this where like they have these freakishly wide smiles.

01:12:43.700 Two sets of teeth.

01:12:45.180 Yeah.

01:12:45.620 Two sets of teeth.

01:12:46.620 And I think what ends up happening is she does touch her grandmother's hand and it is just not right.

01:12:54.940 There's something longer and creepier about it.

01:12:57.400 And then, unfortunately, this woman ends up getting dragged down the hallway in a perpetual loop as one tends to sometimes get caught in a loop of a dream where you think you're awake and you're not. 0.96

01:13:08.620 And then you think you finally woke up and you haven't.

01:13:10.720 I've been there a couple of times.

01:13:11.780 It's not a lot, but maybe like two or three times where I'm like, I'm out finally.

01:13:15.760 And then I'm not out.

01:13:16.800 And it sucks when it happens, too.

01:13:19.420 That goes to Stephen King, too.

01:13:21.240 Like Stephen King knows all this stuff.

01:13:22.800 He would probably be a fan of this show because in the book, when they when they do defeat Pennywise, like lights come out of him.

01:13:30.240 And at one point they ask in a different book, these three orbs, they ask what it is.

01:13:34.460 And it says we are legion.

01:13:35.440 And so he's familiar with the lore of demon, the light or inhabiting something that's not quite it.

01:13:43.080 And it's like it's almost too right on the nose.

01:13:46.400 Like the guy has to know about this stuff.

01:13:49.220 Yeah.

01:13:49.800 You know, actually, that's that's the only difference, I believe.

01:13:53.600 I believe that demons have no light in them whatsoever, which is why they give off that feeling of death, fear, destruction, because that is what they are.

01:14:04.100 And then angels, they had a light when they were created.

01:14:07.640 Why would the light go away and then develop horns and a tail?

01:14:10.500 They're not a Disney villain, for God's sakes.

01:14:12.340 So, I mean, it just.

01:14:15.140 Well, how would you?

01:14:16.060 I call it.

01:14:16.480 How would you account for it in Hollywood?

01:14:18.340 It's propaganda.

01:14:18.980 How would you account for like the the UFO phenomena where they'll say they'll see they see orbs like throughout a field, these kind of like glowing light balls or something like that?

01:14:30.480 OK, so orbs is orbs are also in the ghost hunting field, too.

01:14:36.780 And sometimes they're just dust particles.

01:14:39.540 That happens, too.

01:14:40.520 But when you actually get an orb, it makes up.

01:14:46.440 A ghost, they say.

01:14:47.820 OK, and that's possible.

01:14:49.780 OK, you could you could have just a ghost that's just kind of wondering.

01:14:52.860 It's possible.

01:14:54.160 Probably not probable, but possible.

01:14:56.940 But when it comes to the demonic, there's just nothing good that feels that you can feel from a demon.

01:15:02.780 And if if if you had a battle with some other group of people and you and you really wanted to make sure that you got in there and infiltrated, you would probably bring a parent if you could.

01:15:16.960 If you felt you could be outnumbered, maybe you'd bring a parent or a handful of your friends plus a parent and an elder. 0.98

01:15:23.420 OK, so you think about if fallen angels, but select handful of fallen angels are the fathers of these these black masses, these parasites. 1.00

01:15:37.820 Then what better than to bring in this thing of light that causes everyone to look at it? 0.98

01:15:46.240 And then the darkness creeps in from the other side.

01:15:50.460 There was a woman that was making love to something that she said was full of light and it felt good.

01:15:54.940 And then one day and I wish I could tell you guys her name because it was just a random story I heard, but she didn't see it.

01:16:04.640 She felt it.

01:16:05.720 It changed something in the room, change and she believed that something else entered the room and then proceeded to great her.

01:16:15.960 And it was horrifying.

01:16:17.680 It wasn't consensual at all.

01:16:19.180 It was like the exact opposite, literally the exact opposite.

01:16:23.040 So that's really interesting because two different feelings completely.

01:16:29.160 All of these abduction experiencers, I've had experiences of sleep paralysis where it was accompanied by the presence of a shadow and also the presence of like an inexplicably bright white light and so bright that it didn't make sense.

01:16:43.820 And my grandmother, who was an abductee victim since childhood, would often describe an appearance of a bright white light in her window.

01:16:53.140 And then when she would finally be able to call for help, the light would go away before anybody, you know, when her mother came into the room to say, what are you yelling about?

01:17:01.780 And also she had the like stereotypical black shadow entities in her room. 0.88

01:17:11.040 And this is something that's like integral to the abduction experience, which my thoughts on the abduction experience, especially over the past few years, is that these things are intrinsically tied to this spiritual warfare that we're engaged in.

01:17:26.100 They're intrinsically tied into the fallen, into the nephilim, whether or not grays are X, Y, and Z, these things are all a product of and associated with one another.

01:17:39.200 And so I never thought about that bright white light being, because I remember with me, it came out of a place where like I knew that I know there was no light.

01:17:49.240 You know what I mean? Like there was no light fixture in this closet where it was coming from, and it was so bright that it didn't even make sense.

01:17:56.200 I had a dream recently. This actually came up because twice for the first time in my life, but twice in the past month and a half, I've like rebuked something in my dreams, which doesn't typically happen.

01:18:09.520 It's like sometimes I'll need to gain a certain amount of sentience or not sentience, but like wherewithal I'll need to realize that I'm in a dream to a degree for me to be able to like pray to Christ to, you know, free me of a paralysis or whatever.

01:18:28.400 I'm in the presence of some like light being, and I end up praying.

01:18:35.760 And the reason I say that I wasn't aware is because you know how like when you retell a dream, it's like you're an observer.

01:18:44.900 Not much of a participant, but it's like, yeah, then I did this and then I did that.

01:18:48.720 And it's like, I didn't actively do that. These are just the things that happened in the dream.

01:18:52.180 I was like observing it. This is very much like that. I didn't actively start calling on the name of Christ.

01:18:57.520 I just watched myself start calling on the name of Christ and I got free of the paralysis in the dream.

01:19:03.400 And then I mocked this thing to his face relentlessly until it went away.

01:19:07.140 But it was like a dude made of light. And so, you know, but these, these, this, you know,

01:19:14.800 appearance of a bright white light in some form associated with paralysis associated with, you know, alien abductions is, is very common.

01:19:24.520 And I never stopped to think about like, Oh, are they bringing, cause it's kind of a squad, right?

01:19:29.840 It's like, well, you'll have the greys, you'll have the tall skinny greys.

01:19:32.120 You'll often have the insectoids. You'll have, like you said earlier, these, these Nords.

01:19:36.580 Um, you also might have a whole ass dude made of light, I guess. 0.76

01:19:42.080 Yep. 0.98

01:19:43.820 Interesting.

01:19:44.220 Well, well, um, look in the book of Job. Job actually has sleep paralysis in, in the story.

01:19:51.120 You guys aware of this?

01:19:52.900 I'm not familiar with the book of Job. I, I'm, I'm very bad, uh, when it comes to my, my biblical knowledge.

01:19:58.680 Uh, I just, I, I, I suck at reading, but so please tell me whatever you can.

01:20:03.180 Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Uh, it's Job chapter four.

01:20:07.960 Can you guys see me? Okay.

01:20:09.920 Yes.

01:20:10.280 Yes.

01:20:10.540 All right. Cool. Cool. Cause I can't see you right now. Um, let me see. Uh, I gotta get far enough to, yeah. So.

01:20:25.920 Okay. Here we go. A word was secretly brought to me. My ears caught a whisper of it amid disquieting dreams in the night when deep sleep falls on people.

01:20:34.800 We call that REM sleep. Fear and trembling seized me and made all of my bones shake. A spirit glided past my face and the hair on my body stood on end.

01:20:47.600 It stopped, but I could not tell what it was. A form stood before my eyes and I heard a hushed voice. Can a mortal be more righteous than God? Can even a strong man be more pure than his maker?

01:21:02.040 He goes, this, this thing goes on to appreciate Job for being such a good human. It's an angel and not even a fallen one. It's just an angel giving him sleep paralysis.

01:21:12.580 Dude, that's crazy. Cause he's talking about his boat, like the vibration that's associated with this. These are things that I've experienced myself is the vibration, like this trembling. Number one, the, the, the trembling and the vibration is accompanied with a fear that is, doesn't even make sense functionally.

01:21:31.420 It's a fear that does paralyze you or at least is accompanied with the paralysis, but like nothing I've ever experienced in my waking life has ever made me feel that sense of mortal dread.

01:21:43.220 And then of course, yeah, this vibrating of your bones.

01:21:47.040 And for, for anyone curious, for any viewer curious and you guys as well, that's Job chapter four. That is biblical. What I just read. I didn't change anything. I was reading it in the NIV, but like.

01:21:58.340 Maybe that's why the angels, that's why the angels always say fear, not, not just cause they look like a bunch of eyes on a circle that's rotating or like a bunch of wings, you know, maybe.

01:22:09.700 Yeah. They, they, in order to reach us, do they have to put you in a paralysis state like that?

01:22:15.760 Or maybe it's actually a by-product of them entering the, cause you ever hear people that talk about like dimensionally it's like, well, you're taking a four dimensional or higher being and you're putting it into a three dimensional realm.

01:22:27.300 Remember we spoke to somebody that said it would be like putting your finger into, um, like through a substrate and then having it pop up.

01:22:35.520 Like if we were to show up in super Mario's world where it's two dimensional, well, I guess if you're old like us, but back in the day when it was two dimensional, it would all of a sudden just look like, like a point appeared or something like that.

01:22:47.820 Or like a finger just appeared. You not see it coming. It would just suddenly manifest. Well, that's what you would see.

01:22:53.580 But who the hell knows what you would feel if something suddenly just permeated the fabric of our reality, right?

01:22:59.720 Would it come with, uh, you know, with those, those globes that have electricity in them.

01:23:05.160 And if you touch them, all the electricity goes to your hand. Well, it's like just putting your hand on that.

01:23:09.560 If something lived in that, you would totally disrupt the natural thing that's happening all the time.

01:23:13.980 So maybe by just appearing here, there's a noise that's associated with that.

01:23:20.000 It's like the tearing of our fabric, you know, and maybe there's like a vibration that just permeates everything, including our own bones and cellular structure.

01:23:29.120 And then maybe that feels a lot like death.

01:23:31.940 Yeah.

01:23:32.740 Yeah.

01:23:33.000 I mean, you're talking about the flesh here. The flesh, you know, it's selfish. It's, it's not completely broken, but it's fractured.

01:23:38.640 It's why I rebuke total depravity, by the way, you have to work your way to total depravity.

01:23:44.320 You don't, you aren't just born a God hater, but, um, I don't want to get into that too much.

01:23:48.820 Um, I, I really don't like Western theology for the most part.

01:23:53.180 Um, but when it comes to the flesh, it can't comprehend the spirit.

01:23:59.560 It's selfish in its own way. It wants what it wants. It's why we're always tempted to sin and tempt and test are actually two sides of the same coin.

01:24:08.380 So you got the God testing you with every temptation and then the devil tempting you with every test. 0.65

01:24:13.520 So like, you know, it's the whole thing, but when it comes to the flesh, trying to, trying to discern something, the flesh is going to suck at it.

01:24:21.460 So it's just fight or flight. That's all your body's experiencing.

01:24:25.540 Job here. I don't even know if he was asleep. Maybe, maybe the sleep paralysis came up on him while he was asleep.

01:24:31.580 Um, maybe he was like about to fall asleep and then it hit him because I mean, people talk about that happening too.

01:24:37.740 They get ready to go to sleep. Their body isn't moving anymore. And suddenly, oh God, I'm scared and I can't move.

01:24:43.800 And that's kind of the way that some people talk about it happening in the day too.

01:24:47.280 Like I've heard the occasional rarity, but like the reason I believe these people is because like we just described, sleep paralysis has like a set of attributes that are pretty common as a pattern from one through the other.

01:24:57.920 And so people will describe it. It's like, yeah, I was just kind of hanging out in the middle of the day and all of a sudden, yeah, a creeping feel of fear snuck up on me and a vibration or an electric humming.

01:25:09.060 And then boom, next thing you know, you're fully paralyzed.

01:25:12.600 Yeah. Um, you guys, are you guys familiar with the silver cord with, um, astral projection?

01:25:19.700 Well, you know, um, there is something in Ecclesiastes that talks about a silver cord. You guys aware of it?

01:25:27.400 No.

01:25:28.300 Oh, it's so cool. Hold on.

01:25:30.120 That's interesting because I have watched, uh, my favorite Disney movie growing up now, which now I rebuke both Disney and this movie, but my favorite movie growing up was, uh, was Hercules.

01:25:42.040 I loved the Disney movie Hercules. In fact, it's, um, I, I kind of like named my, one of my first podcasts, uh, where I belong in homage, man, this is incredibly gay.

01:25:53.020 And, oh my, I thought that that was a cool, I was like, that's a cool name. And now I'm thinking, oh, cause of the song. Oh, you know, the song, dude, that song slapped. All right.

01:26:04.480 You suck, David. I can't believe you. 1.00

01:26:07.980 Now I have to, I rebuke my first, my, what was my second? I rebuke my second podcast. I rebuke Disney. Uh, I rebuke Hercules because I don't know that Hercules was a good Nephilim.

01:26:17.740 I do believe that some Nephilim were good, but I don't know if Hercules was one of them. So until the jury's in on that, it's documented that Hercules would accidentally step on people and feel bad about it.

01:26:28.920 So, all right. Well, Hey, sometimes I don't kill bugs. And when I do kill bugs, I'm like, damn it, dude, except for like mosquitoes. I don't give a shit about mosquitoes, but I do feel bad if I kill a spider. I'm like, damn, bro. I didn't know you were there.

01:26:39.960 Right. But, um, you know, you also have the clash of the Titans that, um, that Greek mythology talks about, but in the book of Enoch, God says, I'll turn them against each other. And it's like, whoa, that's an overlap. And that's all, that's all demonology is 90% of it. I say is comparative mythology. Anybody can do that. They would be a demonologist. If they did that, you look at one myth, us, you compare it to the Bible.

01:27:02.960 If you want to be a Christian demonologist. Anyway, you compare to myth, us, see how they compare. Then you compare it with the Bible, you know, and then you just kind of keep doing that until you're, until, you know, um, sticks in your head. 0.68

01:27:14.020 Well, that's kind of what this show is about. Like I was going to say, we're like retarded demonologists. 0.92

01:27:19.180 Yeah. Gary Wayne's entire book over there. Uh, he was on the show also, but that's, that's exactly what it is. I just wouldn't have thought to call myself a demon demonologist or aspiring one, but I suppose we're on that route. 0.76

01:27:29.960 Well, well, you know, the, the body of Christ is made up of every single part, including the nether regions. And I believe, because it talks about, um, Paul, Paul briefly talks about, you know, if you're an eye, don't say to the hand, I have no need of you.

01:27:43.540 Um, but I, I believe the demonologists are essentially the loins of the body. They can't just be open, you know, the body needs pants. So whether it, whether we're, you know, the cheeks, whether we're the loins, whatever the case may be, we are a covered part of the body. Um, that, uh, is meant to stay decent.

01:28:04.720 I think you're a, I think that you're a more important part of the body than you think, especially in these times.

01:28:11.220 That's okay. Actually now I, now I have to bring this up. Hold on. Um,

01:28:16.180 Also now we've just totally let the chat know that I'm gay and retarded and it's just, it's over for me. It's over for me. That's the best song, by the way, of any Disney movie was where I belong. There should have been more stanzas. There should have been more verses because it's too short. 0.84

01:28:31.260 Just to name your podcast after one like that. It's just, it wasn't like named after it, but it was like, that was my favorite movie coming up because I've always had this feeling of like, it's what drove me to, to do a show in the first place is like, I feel like I meant to do something was never able to shake that. And Hercules has that. It's why I also like Moana, right? Because Moana is being called to something, dude, but she doesn't know what she's being called to.

01:28:55.640 The metaphorical shovel that you're digging in this hole. It's inescapable.

01:29:00.120 I love Moana. 1.00

01:29:00.900 I hate Moana and I get PTSD when I hear that ding and the stupid DVD intro to that stupid movie. My son watched it and I wanted to snap the DVD in half. Fun fact about Moana though. 1.00

01:29:15.280 So I find it really interesting that Maui gets struck right in the forehead with a stone and that knocks him over.

01:29:22.180 Oh yeah.

01:29:23.060 Immediately I was like, Hey, that's kind of like David with the sling.

01:29:27.100 He is a Nephilim. He is a Nephilim. He's a demigod.

01:29:30.680 Right. So guys, check this out. This is first, first Corinthians chapter 12.

01:29:34.580 You had mentioned that demonologists are more important now than ever. And so where Paul says, if all were all one member, where would the body be? Right.

01:29:47.860 And then I already said the part where, you know, if you say, if the head says to the feet, I have no need of you. Right.

01:29:52.940 But then it says, no, much rather those members of the body, which seem to be weaker are necessary.

01:29:59.500 And those members of the body, which we think to be less honorable on these, we bestow the greater honor and our unpresentable body parts have greater modesty, but our presentable parts have no need.

01:30:12.820 But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that which lacks it.

01:30:17.820 And there should be no schism in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another.

01:30:24.580 I immediately think, okay, demonology, but you got to be covered. You can't just go spouting it anywhere and everywhere. Right.

01:30:34.480 This is clear, concise. It's in a concentrated space. If a street preacher did what we did, he'd probably get his ass kicked, honestly.

01:30:42.000 Yep. Demonology is the big dick of the body and you got to know when to whip it out. All right. 1.00

01:30:47.440 That was inappropriate. I'm sorry. I can't help myself.

01:30:51.220 I was going to say this show is very much like the balls or something. 0.97

01:30:54.860 We're like, we're just constantly showing ourselves. 0.98

01:30:58.000 And God's like, you're important, but please stop just whipping yourself out. 0.89

01:31:02.620 Hey, it's one of those things where, because believe me, despite the occasional ass and whatever small little PG-13 curse words I've said on this podcast, 0.88

01:31:15.980 God has really pulled me in to be much more careful with my tongue.

01:31:20.840 And I think that's a fantastic example of, okay, greater modesty.

01:31:27.080 What does it mean to cover up?

01:31:28.500 It means to present it in such a way at the right time and, you know, not whip it out and throw it around.

01:31:37.440 Present the balls at the right time.

01:31:40.460 You know, I feel like I have that calling all the time where I feel like God looks at me and he's like, dude, awesome, doing great, crushing.

01:31:51.320 And then I'll just say something on the internet and God's like, whoa, what are you doing?

01:31:58.840 You can feel it sometimes.

01:32:00.860 You can feel it sometimes.

01:32:02.660 Yeah.

01:32:03.040 Sometimes, sometimes, yes.

01:32:05.040 Sometimes I say, God, this is how you made, like, whatever's going on in my brain, like you, you allowed the structure of my brain to be formatted this way.

01:32:14.920 All the little wrinkles in it.

01:32:15.900 It's like, yo, dude, this is.

01:32:17.940 I feel like that's what God's like. 0.97

01:32:20.300 I made you retarded as a test. 1.00

01:32:23.160 You weren't supposed to love the fact that I made you retarded. 1.00

01:32:26.580 You were supposed to overcome the fact that I made you retarded. 1.00

01:32:30.600 Well, you know, something else. 0.58

01:32:31.660 And I'm like, it's my favorite part.

01:32:33.340 And if we, if I may, we can talk very briefly about deliverance ministry and how they always believe.

01:32:39.520 Like, you see them always casting these demons out of people over and over again.

01:32:43.140 And it's always Christians they're casting them out of. 0.99

01:32:45.200 And I always found that fascinating.

01:32:49.100 Like, are they just never free?

01:32:52.180 There are people who are addicted to this feeling of being delivered over and over again.

01:32:57.340 Oh, that's interesting.

01:32:58.180 Yeah.

01:32:58.420 And so it's just one of those weird, I also don't believe in filming exorcisms.

01:33:03.720 Not unless I have the person's consent.

01:33:06.060 In which case, y'all film it.

01:33:07.680 Kind of hard to ask consent when the person's convulsing on the floor and speaking, you know, backwards tongues or something.

01:33:13.160 But, you know, there was, and, you know, not that I'm trying to bash Bob Larson over and over again.

01:33:20.780 But I will say, if you watch his show, his old show, where he would sit there and take his microphone and go, what's your name, Demon?

01:33:27.840 It's like, dude.

01:33:28.540 Oh, yeah.

01:33:29.700 You look like, it looks like the Jerry Springer show.

01:33:32.760 I'm not even kidding.

01:33:33.860 It looks like something out of Jerry Springer.

01:33:35.360 Agreed.

01:33:35.640 And so I don't like it.

01:33:38.060 I don't like, and there's many others in the Deliverance Ministry space who still do that, where they will record it no matter what.

01:33:46.760 And, like, it's not meant, and I know the defense on the other side, I know the pushback anyway, where it's like, okay, well, let me contend with, you know, the Gospels were written down.

01:33:59.200 And it's like, I can document with a pen and paper now, it's vastly different than me filming it, and then you can see it.

01:34:08.940 You can hear it.

01:34:10.300 Some people, they can't handle that.

01:34:13.660 And you don't know what that's going to do to people.

01:34:16.220 I mean, it's just one of those things where I'm just really careful about it.

01:34:20.340 You know, I've only actually bumped into one demon.

01:34:22.760 It was through a Skype call with a guy.

01:34:25.640 And I don't give away his personal information, but I will say the dude was more fit than I ever could be.

01:34:30.740 He was in military.

01:34:32.000 He owned a gym.

01:34:33.320 Or, no, he was, like, second to a gym with a business partner.

01:34:37.520 And he had these dark circles under his eyes, and he was exhausted.

01:34:41.900 And I was like, dude, what was going on?

01:34:44.000 And he said, since I was a kid, I had this thing in my head that would always be talking to me and predicting things, and it just never shut up.

01:34:53.760 And I was like, do you have OCD?

01:34:55.820 He goes, I definitely have OCD.

01:34:58.580 Well, when I started asking him about some of these things, he went on to say that the voice in his head, that he believed were his own thoughts, he went and said it would predict deaths of people.

01:35:14.080 And then it would come to pass.

01:35:16.380 And I told him very quickly, I was like, okay, thoughts don't do that.

01:35:23.040 So it was almost like a broken magic eight ball, you know?

01:35:26.500 It was just like always.

01:35:27.300 He's like, I just thought I was super smart.

01:35:29.540 Right.

01:35:30.540 Have you ever seen this guy?

01:35:33.360 Uh-uh.

01:35:33.620 Go ahead.

01:35:34.120 No, no.

01:35:35.200 An amazing.

01:35:35.440 Dr. Jerry Marzynski.

01:35:38.000 No.

01:35:38.320 Yeah.

01:35:38.960 An amazing journey into the psychotic mind.

01:35:41.060 So that's what you just described is what he's been studying his whole life, where he's talking about schizophrenia.

01:35:47.900 Oh, you're going to love what I have to say about this then, because I had the – I had – oh, if you had something to add to that, I apologize if I cut you off.

01:35:56.440 No, go ahead.

01:35:56.900 Finish.

01:35:57.140 Do you have anything to add to it?

01:35:58.040 Okay.

01:35:58.340 Okay.

01:35:58.540 Cool.

01:35:58.880 I appreciate it.

01:36:00.160 Okay.

01:36:00.660 So I'm so excited about this.

01:36:03.560 It was the first time I had ever casted out a demon, and it only happened like less than a year ago.

01:36:08.720 So not every demonologist gets the chance to actually apply what they know to the field.

01:36:14.120 Dr. Michael Heiser is a fantastic – you know, he died last year, but I don't – I'm not saying, like, he never casted out a demon.

01:36:22.560 It's possible he did.

01:36:23.720 I don't know.

01:36:24.520 But what I do know is he definitely didn't lead with that.

01:36:26.880 And so I was looking up the – it was Apostle Paul and the slave woman who was following him around, and I think it was Barnabas, too, following him around and saying, 0.74

01:36:40.180 he who comes in the name of the Lord, he who comes in the name of the Lord, he's here to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ.

01:36:44.640 He finally turns around like two or three days in and says, in the name of Jesus Christ, I cast out of you.

01:36:49.600 And it left her, and he got in trouble for that because she – the spirit would predict things, and she would help her owners win gambles.

01:37:01.760 And they said, you just costed us money.

01:37:05.420 Well, the spirit, when you look up in the book – because it's in the book of Acts when it happens.

01:37:11.400 The spirit's name is Python.

01:37:17.420 Interesting.

01:37:18.180 Well, it gets weirder because Python was – in Greek mythology, you had these oracles, and these oracles had to be pure.

01:37:27.880 They had to be virgins. 0.94

01:37:29.200 They couldn't be defiled in any way, shape, or form.

01:37:31.280 They had to be celibate.

01:37:32.700 And then they would allow – I don't know if it was Apollos.

01:37:36.400 Apollos, if it wasn't Apollos, it was one of the Greek gods that conquered a snake by the name of Python.

01:37:44.580 And, yeah, no, it doesn't matter.

01:37:47.240 That's interesting.

01:37:47.780 You actually see that in the beginning of the film 300 where he has to go to – Leonidas has to go to the oracles to get a basically blessing from this elder council on whether or not he should go to war.

01:38:01.320 And the way that they determine it is by listening to the oracle, and the oracle is this young girl who they describe as a virgin who is, I guess, under the influence of some sort of drug and that allows her to channel these things and get information like that.

01:38:16.600 So this was like a coveted position within, yeah, Greek structure.

01:38:21.000 Right.

01:38:21.140 This is actually interesting.

01:38:22.500 The computer programming language as well, Python.

01:38:25.160 Oh, that's interesting.

01:38:27.060 Oh, I hate it when that happens.

01:38:28.880 It's freaking – nothing is original.

01:38:32.860 There's nothing new under the sun, as Ecclesiastes says.

01:38:35.560 But, you know, I'm sitting there, and I'm looking at Python, right?

01:38:38.700 Not the coding language.

01:38:40.500 But I'm looking at the spirit in this story, and I think to myself, okay, if this demon is a Python spirit, it is very old. 0.93

01:38:51.100 And I turned to him, and I said, hey, humor me.

01:38:54.260 This is going to be a little weird.

01:38:56.100 I said, I'm going to see if it will manifest, okay?

01:38:58.860 So I'm not talking to you.

01:39:00.340 And then he said, okay, go ahead.

01:39:02.640 And then I said, Python, I'm speaking to you now.

01:39:07.080 In Jesus Christ's name, Jesus of Nazareth, come forward now.

01:39:11.520 I'm talking to you now.

01:39:13.160 Speak.

01:39:13.700 And then he leans into the camera and goes, no.

01:39:16.800 And he's, like, breathing heavy.

01:39:18.660 And then he walks away, comes back, and he starts going, WTF – I'm trying not to say the F word.

01:39:23.540 But he's, like, just swearing. 0.98

01:39:25.380 What the F? 0.89

01:39:25.900 What the F?

01:39:26.380 What the – and he's crying.

01:39:29.540 And I said, I'm going to assume that's never happened to you before.

01:39:32.780 And he said, never.

01:39:33.800 He said, the thought in my head came to life and spoke through my mouth.

01:39:36.840 And so then I told him, I said, okay, well, you're at work right now, and I know it's – you know, you're about to close up, but let's not do this now because I can't guarantee it'll be out in five minutes or less.

01:39:50.940 And so I said, don't let it freak you about too much.

01:39:53.860 But now we know it's there.

01:39:54.920 So we'll come back the next week, and then, you know, when you're alone, and then I can – we'll go and do this.

01:40:00.280 And it spoke to him directly for the first time.

01:40:07.560 And he told me what it said.

01:40:09.920 It said to him, I don't like him.

01:40:12.120 I don't care where you go or what you do.

01:40:14.740 Don't speak to him again.

01:40:16.400 And then later, it started – it was, like, stages of grief.

01:40:19.840 Then it started bargaining with him.

01:40:21.360 I'll do anything you want.

01:40:22.940 I'll stay quiet.

01:40:24.100 Just don't talk to him again.

01:40:25.220 And so it went from, like, threatening demeanor down to giving him nightmares, dreams, draining him of his sleep.

01:40:32.300 It was doing everything it could.

01:40:35.160 And, you know, we ended up getting out.

01:40:37.480 And trying to bargain with him.

01:40:39.240 Yeah, it was bargaining with him for sure.

01:40:42.280 Yeah.

01:40:42.780 Interesting.

01:40:43.540 So you might actually – I would definitely recommend reaching out to Dr. Jerry Marzinski.

01:40:49.580 You'd find him fascinating.

01:40:51.260 But like Top said, 30-plus years dealing with schizophrenia, he comes out the other end saying that this is demonic influence.

01:40:59.640 And that kind of fits a pattern, one thing that you just described there, where it did not want him talking to you.

01:41:06.420 This is something that Dr. Jerry Marzinski said was a common theme amongst these schizophrenic patients, was that these voices, they would tell the victims that I don't want you talking to him.

01:41:21.160 And oftentimes, things will get significantly worse for people with schizophrenia if they start to talk about it.

01:41:29.580 So these things don't want to be talked about.

01:41:31.840 One of the things he said that I remember that's real interesting is as he's – so he's in a jail cell and he's dealing with the schizophrenic patients.

01:41:41.760 But he's dealing with them in a different way because – so he used to work in like a hospital and they were like, you can't do that.

01:41:49.620 You can't address these voices as if they're not hallucinations because the patients are getting disruptive.

01:41:55.600 And I'm sure that things were getting crazy if you're doing that with every patient in that hospital. 0.99

01:41:59.200 So – but in the jail, nobody cared because it's a jail, you know, they're like, fuck these people. 0.93

01:42:04.860 And at one point, I guess he's caused such a disruption in the general population there that has schizophrenia asking about their entities that are talking to them that one of them comes to him and says, you have no right to interfere with our way of life. 0.98

01:42:20.420 It's like, you have no right to interfere with our way of life.

01:42:27.260 It's insane.

01:42:27.840 There's rules.

01:42:29.060 There's rules to that, yeah.

01:42:30.720 And then he has another encounter with a guy who sits at his desk and he tells him – he said, I want you to read this part of this article.

01:42:39.560 And the article basically said, perhaps, you know, the voices in someone's head are not hallucinations, but maybe they're entities.

01:42:47.020 And he says – and the guy kind of like goes blank like a zombie.

01:42:50.480 He hears static that crawls along the wall behind him and he's like looking at it, watching it travel into his garbage can.

01:43:00.020 It jumps in there.

01:43:01.000 He looks in, nothing there.

01:43:03.280 The guy gets up.

01:43:04.480 He says, I've got to go.

01:43:06.000 He says, yeah, you should go.

01:43:07.380 And he just leaves the room.

01:43:10.060 Weeks later, he sees the guy again and he says, hey, that was really interesting.

01:43:14.200 Like, you look better.

01:43:16.800 You see, I've been taking your advice, doctor.

01:43:18.360 But he's like, well, what happened?

01:43:20.220 What the hell – what was that?

01:43:22.020 And he says, that was the voices. 0.92

01:43:24.380 He said, I heard the crackling.

01:43:25.980 And the guy was surprised that he could hear this electric crackling going throughout the room.

01:43:31.060 He said, yeah, I did hear it.

01:43:32.220 And he says, well, entertain me.

01:43:33.380 What did they say? 0.97

01:43:34.800 And he said, the voices said to go out, find something sharp, and stick it in your guts.

01:43:41.420 And he said, whoa, well, why didn't you do that?

01:43:43.760 And he said, because I couldn't find anything.

01:43:45.820 Wow.

01:43:46.060 And no one would give it to me.

01:43:47.820 Yeah.

01:43:49.440 It's insane.

01:43:50.120 That reminds me – okay, do you guys know of the real Emily Rose?

01:43:57.260 I'm familiar with it, yeah.

01:43:58.700 Well, I'm familiar with the – what is it?

01:44:00.920 The exorcism of Emily Rose?

01:44:03.220 Yeah.

01:44:03.780 She's based on a German woman by the name of Annalise Michelle.

01:44:07.580 You guys know who she is?

01:44:09.580 No.

01:44:10.420 No.

01:44:11.840 You can find her clips online.

01:44:14.000 In fact – hey, can you guys pull up a video and go ahead and show that?

01:44:18.120 Type in Annalise Michelle tapes.

01:44:20.120 Just put it on YouTube.

01:44:22.520 I think you guys' viewers would love that.

01:44:25.560 Okay.

01:44:29.020 It's interesting, too, because one of the other things you mentioned before was these things kind of being able to predict things.

01:44:36.300 And I imagine that there's, like, lesser and greater entities that are interacting with schizophrenic patients or people that are scuffering from it.

01:44:43.860 I wouldn't necessarily call them patients and maybe not even schizophrenia, right?

01:44:47.660 But they often have these attributes of precognition where, like, they'll do it on a small scale and a grand scale.

01:44:56.940 Where sometimes it'll be, like, you know, one story in particular I heard was a schizophrenic guy sitting on public transportation, and the voices kept saying, the man in the yellow shirt, the man in the yellow shirt.

01:45:07.700 And then at the next stop, a man with a yellow shirt got on the bus and sat directly next to him.

01:45:12.300 And then I guess there's other ones that are, like, and by the way, the Green Bay Packers are going to win.

01:45:19.400 It's like, why can't you guys be useful every time?

01:45:24.020 Papa needs a new pair of shoes.

01:45:26.940 Let's see what's going on.

01:45:28.640 Let's see what's going on.

01:45:56.940 Come on, Gary.

01:46:01.560 Michael Jordan.

01:46:05.480 Ich Pero glad you heard me.

01:46:08.860 What?

01:46:10.740 Wir haben日本os.

01:46:15.400 Gadget, weil wir eine starke Waffe sind alle Dämonen.

01:46:18.640 Hat nhất.

01:46:19.720 Ja, ja, gegen uns.

01:46:25.140 like it's being interrogated yeah yeah and by the way the exorcism failed

01:46:37.320 the what the exorcism failed this one yeah it failed uh she um annalise um and this is in

01:46:47.420 germany by the way it's the only real reason why but um she ended up dying from malnutrition 0.73

01:46:54.560 whoa it wouldn't let her so these things starve the host yeah and they wouldn't turn her in over 1.00

01:47:02.160 to the hospital because they thought they weren't trying to hurt her they were just trying to hurry

01:47:06.180 up and get it out of her and they couldn't and uh you know in retrospect they should have just

01:47:10.840 went and put her in the hospital and said hey we were trying to help her but uh you know she needs

01:47:14.960 to eat because they could have forced a feeding tube down her throat or whatever through the nose or 1.00

01:47:18.800 however it works but i'll tell you this too i looked up her condition do you can you guys guess

01:47:23.800 what the what the skeptic or what like the consensus is around her diagnosis

01:47:29.060 oh i would imagine schizophrenia probably paranoid schizophrenia temporal lobe epilepsy

01:47:35.600 oh wow so these are just seizures it wasn't just seizures though in fact i looked up temporal

01:47:44.320 lobe epilepsy and it turns out that there are people who experience temporal lobe epilepsy

01:47:48.980 and when they wake up they feel omnipotent like like like they're a god or like they're the god

01:47:56.160 and what's even stranger is if there's another youtuber by the name of the conscious man who had an

01:48:04.600 eight gram mushroom trip where he recorded five four or five different entities that spoke through him

01:48:12.900 and it sounded like nihilism combined with some level of love and light like like in a duality

01:48:20.120 kind of sense where it was like like yin and yang and it was the strangest thing because they also

01:48:28.000 called themselves god they said we are god now he doesn't believe that those are demons necessarily

01:48:34.560 you can see christians flooding his youtube comment section saying hey those are demons bro

01:48:38.660 but it's just weird because you compare his mushroom trip experience where he encounters demons

01:48:45.260 demons speaking through him and then you look at people with temporal lobe epilepsy they also feel

01:48:50.880 like they're god and then you see annalise michelle going through an exorcism and then she's just screaming

01:48:57.440 at the top of her lungs but if you um and you don't have to do it now but look if you look up the

01:49:02.760 conscious man and his mushroom trip listen to the way that the entity speaks through him because it does

01:49:08.120 the growling and the hissing and it almost sounds like it ha it's dying it'll let out these long

01:49:15.180 breaths where it goes to struggle to say another sentence and another sentence and another sentence

01:49:21.080 and i'll tell you what a demon's theology it's it's definitely something special i think that's

01:49:30.160 it sounds to me you know this is just going off of instinct but it probably takes an incredible

01:49:35.820 amount of energy and effort to possess a human being and that's why oftentimes these things sound

01:49:42.200 almost like they're struggling or like they're dying or they're it's there's a an incredible

01:49:47.620 amount of force in their voice trying to come through because when we spoke earlier about my

01:49:53.020 experience and you said that this thing started off by scaring me and it's feeding off this low

01:49:57.160 vibrational this is very much the impression that i got was that it was feeding off of me it took a

01:50:03.420 couple of nights for it to gain the strength to be able to show itself i think everything requires

01:50:08.560 energy from them and that nothing is done easily which is why it's my opinion that they make these

01:50:17.100 these bio uh mechanical gray suits and able to inhabit this thing to interface with this realm because it

01:50:24.420 takes a lot takes a lot of energy sometimes it takes technology and before top you go on i just

01:50:30.560 wanted to also say that this thing that he's communicating with with through the mushrooms

01:50:35.120 claiming to be god or whatever the case is that's the same thing that the aliens or you know aliens

01:50:41.320 want us to believe is that they are god they created us so like there's so many parallels to me that

01:50:48.020 indicate that this is all part of the same deception same same deception same battle same war

01:50:53.740 all the same thing would you say that they're desperate oh yeah like a possession is an act of

01:50:59.920 desperation then i well and and so in first enoch it talks about how

01:51:08.560 first of all god deems them as uh evil spirits so it doesn't call them demons it calls them evil spirits

01:51:16.040 but it goes on to say that you will hunger and never and never be full you will thirst and

01:51:23.680 you will thirst and you'll never you'll never drink of water and um then you go you flip over to the

01:51:30.880 bible in the book of matthew it says when an unclean spirit leaves a person it seeks rest and finds none

01:51:36.900 jesus says you'll when you eat from my the bread of life you will never hunger again when you drink of

01:51:43.180 me you'll never thirst again i am your rest

01:51:46.260 so i mean these things are literally the most godless

01:51:53.260 anti-christ things you could ever find

01:51:58.380 they're everything so they're thirsty they're hungry they're they're tired they're like this is who is

01:52:05.760 is coming for us and they're in waterless places they're in the wilderness

01:52:09.780 do you think a human a human soul can degrade itself down to that to the level of a demon

01:52:17.740 no i don't know okay does it become something different though like like alistair crowley

01:52:24.500 you know might have really gave that system a run for its money someone who's in communion such

01:52:30.760 communion with these things that they may become almost like them like what happens with these people

01:52:35.920 there was a time when i really oh oh okay that what you just said um so i do believe that you can

01:52:44.240 have people who are not necessarily demons but in their past life as a human they're so hateful

01:52:54.080 they're so nasty there's something about them that causes them to kind of stick around in a journey of

01:53:01.340 sorts and this is a mystery by the way if we're all wrong about this is a non-salvation

01:53:05.700 topic it's whatever but there was this story of uh my co-worker by the name of tammy uh told me

01:53:12.240 about the story of this old elderly woman in a rocking chair who would just stare at you when

01:53:17.600 you were in the room and she wasn't really there not everyone could see her and she had the most

01:53:22.520 hideous nastiest look on her face and she swore that she was alive at one point but it didn't hurt

01:53:31.300 her it didn't cast any uh mental images in her head it was just sitting there so and that goes

01:53:39.320 back to my theory on ghosts not being able to actually do anything if it can scratch you call

01:53:44.820 it a demon if it can give you nightmares call it a demon now ghosts can enter your dreams i do believe

01:53:50.720 that for the case of my son and me i believe that there was a woman that wanted me to solve her murder

01:53:56.300 i wrote an article on it it was a very very scary thing um it very i was very perplexed by it too

01:54:04.100 because she had uh these like wrote those rosy glasses from like the early 90s late 80s 1.00

01:54:10.560 and um some her mother was a very controlling woman and it was like she was hijacking my dream 1.00

01:54:18.360 and just enter she was entering herself into my dream over and over again and in the dream i felt

01:54:25.020 bad and like i decided to date her um but i also thought in my mind my wife might kill me but i think

01:54:33.240 she'll understand where i'm coming from if i'm just nice to her so something told me that she i'm not

01:54:39.320 going to say she was slow but she did have brain surgery according to the like the the dream itself

01:54:45.460 but it was just the weirdest thing never saw her again either but i truly believe her mother killed

01:54:52.040 her and i think she wanted me to figure it out it was just a weird set of i i didn't mean to go on

01:54:57.940 that tangent but like as far as ghosts and dreams that they can happen i i do believe that

01:55:03.620 interesting yeah i i sometimes uh you know i think i alluded to it before in the beginning of the show

01:55:13.140 talking about whether or not time works the same in this like afterlife this maybe like a purgatory

01:55:20.260 or a waiting room before everyone's judged um because people often say what are they just sitting

01:55:26.240 around waiting you know for hundreds and hundreds or thousands of years or the other one that i can't

01:55:31.820 answer is why are they always in victorian era garb although the one that you saw she said she has

01:55:37.120 80s or 90s uh glasses on or something like that so that's always nice to get one of them a teenager

01:55:43.500 at about the time i was born so she would be in her 50s by now if she were still alive

01:55:48.500 i i had a dream once i guess a premonition that my um uncle who was very influential to me was sort of a

01:55:57.340 mentor um was in a shopping mall with me uh like a supermarket and he was dressed in he was an older

01:56:07.280 guy in his like 50s or 60s early 60s but in this dream his hair was like significantly whiter and his

01:56:16.780 beard was all white where it used to be like salt and pepper and he was in a white robe and he was

01:56:24.840 walking away from me and i'm trying to get his attention and he won't turn around he won't pay

01:56:29.460 attention to me and i keep trying to get around him but the supermarket aisle is so narrow for some

01:56:34.460 reason that i can't squeeze by him to get in front of him and so he just keeps walking and walking

01:56:40.360 um and eventually i wake up and that same week i was at a supermarket and when we came back with the

01:56:47.780 groceries in our hands still uh we had a text message that said that he died there was a complication

01:56:52.460 at the doctor's office with his medication and he died there in the doctor's office in his wife's arms

01:56:59.520 and wow yeah it is there's just a lot of weirdness when it comes to dreams and and um i don't know i feel

01:57:10.920 like we this is probably the fourth time we've brought it up in this show but it's very disappointing

01:57:17.820 that we've let the new age movement have all the cool things because these things are important

01:57:23.680 and they're meaningful and i mean they're important you know we should be paying more attention to these

01:57:30.480 things but yeah all of it is so tainted with this one this distaste that i have for that movement and

01:57:38.440 two this sort of fear because we don't have the the training or the or the information and it's all

01:57:47.880 sort of granted to not granted to but it's all corrupted and and inverted by this other side of

01:57:54.380 the aisle and um that's in the same way in the same way like the left culture right now the left-wing

01:58:00.700 culture has you know the best musicians and some of the better you know movie makers and things like

01:58:06.680 that uh now the right has to play catch up and they're doing that they try to do that with the

01:58:12.800 daily wire that was a bit subversive but there's more and more creatives popping up on the right which

01:58:18.780 i mean again not to compare the left wing to you know the devil and the right wing that's like played

01:58:24.580 out but there is some sort of a resemblance there and there has been like an ignorance of culture from

01:58:31.540 the right wing in the same way there's been an ignorance of your spiritual culture um with

01:58:37.200 christianity or at least to a certain level my my favorite christian film in the horror genre is

01:58:43.600 probably from dusk till dawn and that throws people off when i tell them but if you pay attention to the

01:58:49.140 movie you have lights that are you you have you have light shining in the darkness in the movie in the

01:58:57.040 premise with all of the nudity the blood the gore everything in that you also have servants of god

01:59:06.720 and then you find out wait crosses work the man takes a shotgun and uh and the the ex preacher because

01:59:15.320 he's retired he takes it he takes a bat takes it through the the hoop of the shotgun where you put

01:59:22.860 the strap in the front and then just cocks it and starts holding it up and it keeps them at bay and

01:59:30.260 then when one of the vampires acts up he just shoots it cocks it again and just keeps it up and it was

01:59:36.240 just that's so significant not to mention you know uh being a 90s baby you know the movie came out in 96

01:59:43.200 but it's just you know one of one of a handful of movies that stand out to me where i'm like you know

01:59:47.920 if they weren't afraid of actually talking about jesus christ in movies even a little bit even a little bit

01:59:53.640 um it doesn't even have to be on the nose as far as like you know being so obvious about it to where

01:59:59.780 it's just you know being preachy because let's be well let's face it the message is being preachy to us

02:00:06.420 now from the left we gotta sit there and deal with the damsels in distress that aren't aren't distressed 0.88

02:00:11.260 anymore because they're mary sues they don't need to learn anything new

02:00:14.360 and you know they're destroying franchises left and right so i mean like and that's just one aspect

02:00:20.080 of it you have you have other parts of the woke culture that have gotten into it as well

02:00:24.760 that's kind of also why it goes back to i i don't want to keep you too long but it goes back to what

02:00:30.480 we were talking about with uh with our language and how we're presenting ourselves i've almost made

02:00:36.220 a conscious decision to not it's not really censoring myself but to not uh be completely clean

02:00:43.080 i have this rough edge of these things that i say because i'm like i notice that that's like a

02:00:49.040 it's a tool that has been i mean that that is used by the other side was used by the other side

02:00:56.460 and now they've kind of abandoned it but it's like it's just a way to tell the truth and i know it's

02:01:02.240 it's weird but like you're saying like a nudity in this in this movie it creates this culture and

02:01:08.260 then it tells the truth and people see it well the world is a dirty place yeah and you know it's

02:01:15.460 just one of those things and and talking about what uh i don't know if you were getting at this but

02:01:19.580 um cleaning up language and things like that you do that in christian films and all you're doing is

02:01:26.980 kind of creating a piece of propaganda it doesn't feel real at all that's what it feels like right

02:01:32.280 it it feels like uh you're in a you know like not a padded room but like a a room that's been

02:01:38.520 completely wiped down and it's just not realistic no it's not realistic there are people who die to

02:01:43.960 hell you know like i do want to say this too it's like how many people do you do you bump into or not

02:01:49.920 bump into but they're these influencers and let's say they're of a christian lean right well

02:01:54.760 there is an not an air of arrogance or like a holier than thou that like drives people away

02:02:01.520 where i have found that as long as i am myself and and obviously there is a certain amount of like

02:02:08.080 remorse or or you know um i feel sometimes in the way that i slip or the way that i sin i suppose

02:02:15.140 but my approachability brings people to the conversation where it's like i'm not

02:02:23.120 the the way in the life jesus christ is god is is the point if i can bring you to it by just being

02:02:31.080 who i am then that's so much better than you know these these or maybe it's not better than maybe there

02:02:36.960 is just a crowd that's not being spoken to and maybe we get to speak to that crowd different part

02:02:42.400 of the body i don't maybe i don't know well okay so i like to think of it like this um i used to play

02:02:47.860 rpgs all the time then i realized that like i have something of an addictive personality so i stopped

02:02:52.600 but you think about people who they like buying the armor early on so that even though they're a

02:02:59.860 level five they have their credit card their mom's credit card and they now they look like a level

02:03:04.380 58 or whatever christians are doing that every day they're they are a level five christian they're

02:03:11.280 going into level 58 territory they're wearing the you know this armor that it's just cosmetic it and

02:03:19.020 they're faking it till they make it and that's just not the way to do it um be authentic to yourself

02:03:24.100 don't try not to sin that doesn't work because when you try not to do something you think about doing

02:03:30.300 it but just do um ironically bringing up paul again um but um paul said do all in the glory of god

02:03:39.180 whatever you do do all in the glory of god and so just do it in the glory of god and you stay

02:03:45.120 in the light and if you stumble which is you know another word for sin really if you stumble

02:03:51.060 you just get back up right i'm not saying you don't have to ask forgiveness for that sin but what

02:03:56.760 i am saying is keep moving forward be yourself though you know i mean you got that every day

02:04:04.560 that i'm sure are spreading the gospel of jesus christ the armor the armor thing that you mentioned uh

02:04:10.700 i forgot who we had on that i was talking about david and goliath but david was offered the armor

02:04:16.460 and he's like this doesn't fit me right it's and i'm not using that i'm going to take this sling

02:04:22.160 so dark in other words in dark souls this is bad for me i can't move i can't i'm not going to dodge

02:04:28.580 roll in this man like i need to ditch it perhaps yeah very interesting very interesting think about

02:04:34.120 it that way man but listen we've kept you here for two hours um this has been fantastic and shout

02:04:41.360 out to cam uh who told me about you this is a i would this is a fascinating conversation you're

02:04:47.400 a fascinating dude we would probably ask you to come on again in the future man um well i appreciate

02:04:52.780 that absolutely can you can you tell our audience they were asking before in the chat that's why i put

02:04:57.040 the names up tell them your name where they can find you all that stuff uh yeah sure so um my name

02:05:03.980 is israel um israel petty is my full name um uh you can find me on izzy centric on just about any

02:05:10.560 social media because i tried to snatch that up before you know some bot got it but yeah um i'm a bible

02:05:16.180 teacher and i study demonology i am actually trying to work on us um shifting over into something more

02:05:24.260 of a podcast space or segments that range anywhere between five minutes to 25 minutes to 45 minutes

02:05:30.540 but i'm trying not two hours well even if i did reach even if i did reach two hours my problem is

02:05:36.260 i do ums and butts all the time and so i plan on just chopping myself up and doing jump cuts and

02:05:42.140 pre-recorded stuff and then um making sure it sounds good for spotify because people keep saying hey you

02:05:47.620 got a good voice and i'll subscribe to you in a heartbeat if you switch into that space and i'm like

02:05:52.780 i'll think about it i'll think about it but yeah so um ranging between aliens cryptids ghosts uh

02:05:59.120 anything in the paranormal i'll talk about um esoteric hollywood i like talking about that and i 0.66

02:06:04.300 know that jay dyer does too and then guys it sucks that he ended up butting heads with you guys i hate 0.57

02:06:08.420 that we're gonna i mean i mean we can reschedule him probably does like us or not rather he probably

02:06:15.300 doesn't like us we like him i don't mind him at all i just think that he likes us he likes us

02:06:20.980 the thing is it was just got i don't know what happened he he got weird with david it was very

02:06:26.080 strange and we were supposed to have him on the next day and i said hey listen like this is not 0.92

02:06:30.520 the type of show that we run we don't do debates we don't do that kind of shit like 0.92

02:06:33.560 if you're coming on we're gonna agree if you were here physically with me i'd give you something 0.96

02:06:39.120 to drink something to eat come sit down you know like very that's how i like to run this show so

02:06:45.220 not adversarial that's not adversarial yes i'll tell you guys this i actually i lean to the east

02:06:51.940 i'm not orthodox myself i have my reservations but um if if i can help be a little bit of like a

02:06:57.900 transitional person uh yeah i'd love to talk with the man myself honestly um and that really goes for

02:07:05.320 la marzulli as well um because i'll tell you what you'd love la he's awesome it was great

02:07:11.120 having bob larson want to have me on but as soon as he did that and started exploiting me and then

02:07:16.500 started like really defamating me i was just like okay if we could like not have that happen again

02:07:22.100 you know if i if i could have uh nice chill conversations like this um i'm all for it

02:07:30.480 absolutely awesome maybe we could set something up uh david and i think your your screen's frozen

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02:08:28.780 other than that i i think that's it oh wait wait one more thing go to toplobson.com and grab that

02:08:33.900 red heifer shirt before they kill that bad boy at the end of march save the red heifers all right

02:08:40.480 guys we'll see you on saturday peace out the greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the

02:08:47.900 corner of the corner of the room it is constantly telling us what to believe is real if you can

02:08:53.800 persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see because they'll laugh in the

02:09:01.180 face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening and they have

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Nephilim Death Squad - March 28, 2024

035： Ancient Demon History w⧸ Izzycentric

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