Dr. Laura Sanger joins us on the show to discuss her new book, "The Roots of the Federal Reserve: Tracing the Nephilim Agenda from the Days of Noah to the U.S. Dollar" and how it applies to the things we are up against as humanity in the world that we inhabit today.
00:02:23.340That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.
00:02:26.140And today, we are here with somebody who is far too good to be on this show with us degenerates.
00:02:34.760But someone who we are a tremendous fan of as, I would say, one of the most influential people in this sphere of sort of biblical conspiracy.
00:02:45.700How it applies to the things that we're up against as humanity in the world that we inhabit today.
00:03:37.540I also help people understand the spiritual dynamics that are going on, not only in the roots of the Federal Reserve, but that are going on in their community, also in their own lives.
00:03:49.720I help people understand what generational iniquity is, how to break free from that, and really how to walk in freedom and tap into the full blessings that the Lord has for people.
00:04:00.620So the best way to reach me is on my website, which is nolongerenslaved.com.
00:04:09.280And from there, I have everything available.
00:04:11.960My book is available both in English and in Spanish.
00:04:31.200I also have a YouTube channel and a Rumble channel called No Longer Enslaved.
00:04:36.160And I've got several different series where I'm doing teachings on the impact of the Nephilim agenda, on spiritual mapping, on foundations of transdimensional music.
00:04:53.160A lot of people that said since we started this show, Charlie Robinson of Macroaggression said, you guys are the last ones in, but the first ones to finish.
00:05:01.500Because this idea of the Nephilim, it's pervasive to almost everything.
00:05:07.900We were on a show just recently and they said, well, what is the Nephilim?
00:05:26.680And then when you dig down to the deep of, when you dig down to the bottom of a lot of these social calamities that are happening or just about anything, you know, it's like, oh, this is kind of old Nephilim base at the very base of it.
00:05:39.600So could you please just give us an overview of what this means?
00:05:43.140Because sometimes it's hard for me to explain.
00:05:44.700Yeah, and I think you're absolutely right on that it penetrates just about everything.
00:05:53.340So in a nutshell, what the Nephilim agenda is, is it's the plan to defile the human genome through the propagation of a hybrid race.
00:06:01.380And the purpose of that is to overthrow God's kingdom.
00:06:04.540Now, what I do in my book is, you know, I get down to the root or the origins of things.
00:06:11.280And so when we look at the origins of the Nephilim agenda, it actually goes back to Genesis 3, which is the seed war.
00:06:20.200And so I'll read verse 14 and 15 of Genesis 3.
00:06:53.880So, you know, one day, Eve's seed would crush Satan.
00:06:59.300Well, this was the prophetic declaration of the coming Messiah.
00:07:03.120So Satan's strategy was to contaminate the seed of the woman by altering the genetic code of humans.
00:07:09.920Now, this is where the fallen sons of God become integral in Satan's strategy.
00:07:14.400And we read about that not only in Genesis 6, but also in the epithetical text of the book of the Bible.
00:07:19.860So what the fallen sons of God did, if they chose to leave their head of the abode, and they invaded the first group by disfedding the on-down experiment.
00:27:11.680Most people will just glaze right over this.
00:27:14.080But Timnah, so she bore Ilaphaz's son, and they named him Amalek.
00:27:21.240Now, Timnah had, her father was a Horite chief.
00:27:25.360And the Horites are mentioned in Genesis 14 among a list of tribes of giants.
00:27:30.460But it's not thought that they themselves were giants, but more that they intermingled with the giants.
00:27:35.400And that led to the spreading of the Nephilim genes.
00:27:38.520So it's likely that Amalek had Nephilim genes in him.
00:27:42.640And then when we look at the meaning of his name, his name means blood liquor, as in somebody who devours something and licks up the blood.
00:27:53.160So among the Edomites, we're beginning to see, you know, these Nephilim traits.
00:27:58.500Well, one of the traits is that they have red hair.
00:28:02.780And that is one of the physical criterias that I mentioned as far as having the criteria for Nephilim host.
00:28:30.700She definitely was not a Nephilim host.
00:28:32.980But, you know, as I scoured through historical documents, it became clear that red hair is associated with other Nephilim traits.
00:28:40.680So whether that was in the Edomites, you know, the elongated skulls of Paracas, Peru, the red-haired cannibals that terrorized the Paiute tribe in Nevada, even the Taran Basin mummies in China that were said to be, you know, seven, eight feet tall, they had red hair.
00:28:57.160Then you have the Celts, the Scythians, and the Kazarians.
00:28:59.740So it really became clear that red hair is a trait of the Nephilim, but, you know, it would be foolish to draw a conclusion based on one genetic marker alone.
00:29:10.760Just like, you know, I couldn't diagnose somebody with schizophrenia based on one symptom alone.
00:29:16.000We're looking for a cluster of traits.
00:29:18.520With this, though, you know, with the red hair being a trait of the Nephilim, it lends credence to the fact that red is a calling card of the Nephilim agenda.
00:29:28.220Well, further evidence came when I discovered the meaning of the name Rothschild.
00:30:24.860You have the term in the red, meaning to be in debt, which is certainly part of the Nephilim agenda.
00:30:30.920And then last week, I'm sure you guys are well aware that King Charles Portrait came out and it was bathed in red.
00:30:38.140And so that was a huge symbol that here is a Nephilim host engaging in the Nephilim agenda.
00:30:44.460Dr. Sanger, can I derail you for a moment?
00:30:47.700I would love to get your opinions, derail you once again on the what do you make of that painting?
00:30:54.560Because I'm sure you've seen every which way in which the painting has been mirrored and inverted and the contrast has been adjusted and you can seemingly find no shortage of demonic faces from a very convincing Baphomet all the way to what I found to be a spot on representation of Molech, specifically the statue that was erected in Italy.
00:31:17.260And so I'd love to know, do you think that we're just kind of picking at things that aren't really there or are you seeing the same thing?
00:31:28.000In fact, I just posted an article from my website called The Calling Card of the Nephilim Agenda and I talk about King Charles Portrait.
00:31:37.280But what's interesting, you know, not only when you look at the mirrored image, do you see Baphomet, but just like you said, I mean, any which way you slice it, there is demonic imagery portrayed, false gods.
00:31:53.320And so I think, you know, it really was him communicating to the world that he operates according to this Nephilim agenda.
00:32:01.120You know, there's some people that believe he's the Antichrist.
00:32:04.480I wouldn't go that far, but certainly I would say that he is operating as a Nephilim host, perpetuating the Nephilim agenda.
00:32:13.680The other thing, too, if you notice in the portrait is a monarch butterfly, and that represents monarch programming, you know, mind control programming among those that are satanic, ritually abused.
00:32:27.840And so it's symbolism, for sure, that he's communicating, that he's involved in that stuff.
00:32:34.000I do want to say to people, to the audience that's listening, it's a very reasonable question to ask is, well, how could an artist do that sort of thing?
00:32:43.960And I think that it is not the artist's hand alone.
00:32:48.060If you go back to the, not the allegory, but the sort of instant of the muses, how artists throughout history have been in contact with what they would call their muses.
00:33:03.700There's no shortage of anecdotal stories of an artist of any variety, whether it's a musician or a painter or anything, saying that their ideas came to them and that they were not their own ideas.
00:33:17.060I think that more than likely what we're seeing here is somebody who is channeling these spirits and whose hand is guided by something of, you know, a dark nature.
00:33:27.320Intentionally and unintentionally, like, so I'm an artist and you, you do get into a certain flow state.
00:33:33.600If I'm there for an hour and I'm working on a piece, all of a sudden I am now moving and not, not even with intention anymore.
00:33:42.240So if you're in that mind state that you're, if you're paid by King Charles, if you're commissioned by this guy to do a piece, wouldn't be surprised if what's influencing you when you get into that state is just completely moving your hand to draw whatever it wants backwards, upside down, or perhaps a backwards recording of an old record that just happens to hail Satan or something like that.
00:34:04.140Might not be intentional, might just be, you know, that muse, that, that influence that's working through you.
00:34:09.940Right. And then what if you go a step further and do set out with the intentions to be embodied or guided by something?
00:34:18.180You know what I mean? Then I think it's entirely different.
00:34:20.380And so, yeah, I just wanted to say that for people because there is a sort of skepticism when you see that.
00:34:25.120Well, how could one person do that? And it's like, well, it's not one person.
00:34:34.740So then, you know, in thinking about this color red, how it's become a calling card of the Nephilim agenda, that is what helped me trace the Nephilim all throughout history.
00:34:46.660And so, you know, you have the Nephilim, then you have the Raphaim, then you have the Horites, as I mentioned, the Edomites, the Kazarians, the Ashkenazi Jews, the Rothschilds, Jacob Schiff, Paul Warburg, and then it leads to the Federal Reserve.
00:35:01.140And so the roots of the Federal Reserve actually run much, much, much deeper than we think.
00:35:07.020And it goes all the way back to Genesis 3.
00:35:11.060So I can touch on that just to see how this unfolds and what is embedded in the Federal Reserve.
00:35:20.380So, you know, as I mentioned, part of my investigation, I looked at the etymology of words, because really, you know, it's like performing an archaeological dig on language.
00:35:31.760So by looking at the meaning embedded in the original language, as well as certainly we want to take into the consideration, the context of scripture.
00:35:41.700And then I looked at extra biblical manuscripts and even ancient documents.
00:35:46.040And what that allowed me to do is it's kind of like looking through a telescope of vocabulary to reconstruct ancient events.
00:35:55.200And by looking at the etymology of words, I was actually able to unearth these treasures that were hidden in the sands of misinterpretation.
00:36:03.680So like I mentioned, the roots of the Federal Reserve go all the way back to Genesis 3, particularly verse 13.
00:36:10.740And I'll read that says, and the Lord God said to the woman, what is this you have done?
00:36:17.060And the woman said, the serpent deceived me and I ate.
00:36:21.000Now, there is a lot packed into this passage.
00:36:23.780So let me take a look, you know, take us on a little bit of a deeper dive.
00:36:28.520First of all, the Hebrew word for serpent in this passage is nakash.
00:36:33.140And it means serpent because of its hissing.
00:36:35.720And it comes from the root word that means divination, hiss, whisper a magic spell and an enchanter.
00:36:44.460So given this, you know, it's plausible that Satan presented himself as, you know, in an appealing manner, probably masquerading as this angel of light, whispering these magic spells over Eve.
00:36:56.540Now, in essence, what he did is he engaged in witchcraft to manipulate Eve to walk in rebellion.
00:37:02.520So then when she ate the forbidden fruit, this verse is the father confronting her.
00:37:09.220Well, then we look at the Hebrew word for deceived.
00:37:14.680And it means not only to deceive, but it means to beguile, mentally delude, morally seduce, to impose and to cause to go astray.
00:37:24.100And that's all according to the Strong's Concordance.
00:37:27.040But if we dig into the Hebrew English lexicon known as the Brown Driver Briggs, what we discover is that neshah also means to lend on interest or usury or to become a debtor.
00:37:41.900And when I discovered that, I nearly fell off my chair because what this says is this points to the hidden agenda of the Federal Reserve.
00:37:52.160So the Hebrew word for deceived means to make someone a debtor.
00:37:58.020So now we think about, you know, when the Federal Reserve Act was passed just before Christmas in 1913, Congress deviously passed legislation that would enslave American citizens in debt.
00:38:11.200You know, all the while just lining the pockets of the global elites.
00:38:18.240Well, the entire Federal Reserve System is rooted in neshah.
00:38:25.440You know, it's the language of the Nephilim who are the seed of Satan.
00:38:29.420So then we think about when Eve was beguiled by Satan and she fell into that trap of sin, she owed a debt and one that could only be paid by death.
00:38:40.520Well, one of the books, and I read many from writing my own book, but one of the books I read was Stephen Quayle and Dr. Thomas Horne.
00:38:49.820They wrote a book called The Unearthing the Lost World of the Cloud Eaters.
00:38:55.700And they actually described the ramifications of this great deception.
00:38:59.360And there is a sentence in what I'm going to read that just really caught my attention.
00:39:05.940It says, this is the consequence of the sin of Adam and Eve in the garden.
00:39:10.980A consequence that continues to bear bitter fruit in our own sin to this day.
00:39:15.960The act of rebellion against the creator's command put humanity into such debt that it could only be satisfied by the blood of Jesus Christ.
00:39:27.220But Satan was the banker who wrote the note.
00:39:30.940So that last sentence helped me begin to pull pieces together.
00:39:37.300I believe we have been beguiled by elite banksters who have been led by the great deceiver Satan himself.
00:39:44.240You know, the players involved in the creation of the Federal Reserve, they exuded Nephilim traits.
00:39:51.000You know, they were master deceivers, skilled at lying to the American people, you know, pretending to have our best interests in mind, all the while crafting this insidious system of enslavement.
00:40:02.920So the Federal Reserve is actually financing the Nephilim agenda.
00:40:20.340He says, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known.
00:40:26.340I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks.
00:40:29.860This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the United States.
00:40:35.660It has done this through the defects of the law under which it operates, through maladministration of that law by the Federal Reserve Board, and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.
00:40:48.540Some people think that the Federal Reserve Banks are U.S. government institutions.
00:40:56.220They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers, foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers, and rich and predatory money lenders.
00:41:10.380In that dark crew of financial pirates, there are those who would cut a man's throat to get a dollar out of his pocket.
00:41:18.700At no time in our history has the general welfare of the people of the United States been at a lower level or the mind of the people so filled with despair.
00:41:29.240They are the victims of the dishonest and unscrupulous Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks.
00:41:36.160Their children are the new slaves of the auction block and the revival here of the institution of human slavery.
00:41:47.540So what McFadden is doing is he's identifying this deceptive predatory practice of the Federal Reserve, which are all hallmark traits of the Nephilim.
00:41:57.260So Nishah, you know, deception is actually the basis of our defiled monetary system.
00:42:04.400And the Federal Reserve is built upon usury, which is, you know, lending with excessive interest.
00:42:09.520The Federal Reserve's product, when you think about it, is debt.
00:42:13.740And I love that King Solomon, you know, he aptly summarized it in Ecclesiastes 1.9.
00:42:48.560And I always love coming on new podcasts to awaken audiences to the impact that this Nephilim agenda has had,
00:42:55.560because I really believe it's critical that we understand how this agenda affects our daily lives so we don't become hoodwinked by it.
00:43:05.100And certainly, I think in our day and time, the Fourth Industrial Revolution is the means by which, you know, this Nephilim agenda has been carried out.
00:43:15.020But I'll pause there because that was a lot.
00:43:17.640Yeah, it's one of the things that that drew me away from libertarianism, because you start to learn about inflation and money printing and interest rates and money in general.
00:43:30.960And I'm like, yeah, but none of this really makes sense until you start to add it up.
00:43:35.060And I'm like, oh, so all these girls are on OnlyFans because there's economic calamity coming.
00:43:43.700They maybe they can't explain it to you in msessian terms about what's going on.
00:43:47.560But there's a pressure on humanity, on American humanity.
00:43:50.960And then the behavior of America starts to go haywire because we start to will incentivize mothers to become single single parents with with fake money.
00:44:00.980You know, I mean, it's just you go down the line.
00:44:46.480Because it's it's it's so difficult to to make ends meet the pressure from our current day financial system without it.
00:44:57.140You would have the freedom to I mean, I don't think it's beyond a stretch to say to live a more moral life with with ease, because once things get hard, that's when people start to become debased.
00:45:12.060That's when they do things that they otherwise wouldn't do.
00:45:15.180I just in throughout the Bible, anytime things got hard.
00:45:18.480I mean, Moses goes up to talk to God for a couple of days and all of his people that he like they saw God split the water.
00:45:50.480I know you're thinking about it, top is I want we have a mutual buddy, Clint Russell.
00:45:56.320I want him to listen to this episode because he is a big financial guy, a big character in the libertarian space.
00:46:04.460And I just think you're dealing with a a you're not dealing with a full deck unless you have the spiritual aspect of our current day financial system in your hands.
00:46:15.820Without it, I don't think you can address this thing properly.
00:46:30.760Well, I think you guys are, you know, just really, again, hitting the nail on the head because it is a spiritual battle that we're in.
00:46:40.880It's one of biblical proportions for sure.
00:46:43.160And, you know, I think if I share a little bit about how the fourth industrial revolution has been carrying out this Nephilim agenda, I think it will help people even put more pieces together because this is what we're living right now.
00:46:58.860So maybe just to start with those that aren't familiar with the term fourth industrial revolution.
00:47:03.620It essentially is the convergence of advances in biotechnology and information technology.
00:47:29.240So the fourth industrial revolution, one way to think about it is it's this fusion between our physical, our biological, and our digital identities.
00:47:39.680And it involves the merging of big tech data, machine learning, AI, quantum computing, genetics, robotics, and nanotechnology.
00:47:48.900And where it leaves us is this existential crisis of the highest order.
00:47:53.960And that is, will humans continue to exist in the near future?
00:47:58.380Now, if you ask Yobal Noah Harari, he would say no.
00:48:02.000And Harari is not only a historian, but he's also a very close advisor to Klaus Schwab, who, of course, is head over the World Economic Forum, although I hear he is stepping down.
00:48:16.640He says, we are probably one of the last generations of Homo sapiens.
00:48:21.580Within a century or two, Earth will be dominated by entities that are more different from us than we are different from Neanderthals or from chimpanzees.
00:48:31.440Because in the coming generations, we will learn how to engineer bodies, brains, and minds.
00:48:37.540This will be the product of the 21st century economy, not vehicles, textiles, and weapons, but bodies, brains, and minds.
00:48:45.900Those who control the data control the future of not just humanity, but of life itself.
00:48:52.280Because today, data is the most important asset of our time.
00:48:57.000Now, when Harari says that the products of the 21st century will be bodies, brains, and minds, what he's referring to, in part, are human brain organoids.
00:49:08.860Now, an organoid is an artificial organ that is grown in vitro to resemble a brain.
00:49:16.480And they originate from embryonic stem cells.
00:49:19.680Now, right now, these human brain organoids do not have a vascular system.
00:49:24.900So, without blood flow, it limits their size and viability.
00:49:29.140But, you know, as technology is advancing, we could reach a day where they're able to get blood flowing to these brain organoids,
00:49:39.600which then means they would be able to become the size of a human brain.
00:49:44.280Now, right now, scientists are already being able to grow sections of a brain synthetically in a lab,
00:49:52.120and then transplanting those into the neurodegenerative areas within mice.
00:49:59.980The other thing is just, you know, this opens up our understanding that these Nephilim hosts are actively advancing transhuman.
00:50:08.880You know, they want to replace humans.
00:50:10.580That's what I mentioned at the core of the Nephilim agenda is the goal to strip us of our humanity.
00:50:16.120Well, if they're successful in turning humans into hybrids, this could, of course, disrupt our ability to commune with creator God.
00:50:24.300And I think we're quickly approaching a day where humans can be hacked and our minds taken over.
00:50:29.800Now, we see this rapid progression of nanotechnology and AI.
00:50:36.780And really what scientists are attempting with all of this is they want to create a global superbrain through the use of nanobots.
00:50:45.300In 2019, scientists from the Human Brain Cloud Interface Project,
00:50:50.740they reported that nanobots are able to navigate the human vascular.
00:50:55.900They can cross the blood-brain barrier and auto-position themselves precisely within and among our brain cells.
00:51:04.160From there, they can wirelessly encode information to and from a cloud-based supercomputer network for real-time brain state monitoring and data extraction.
00:51:14.820Now, that was a mouthful, but essentially what that means is that scientists are attempting to connect a network of human brains with AI
00:52:32.400And not only does it mean renewal, it means renovation.
00:52:36.220It means a complete change for the better.
00:52:39.260And it comes from the root word anakano, which means to cause to grow up, to make new, and to be changed into a new kind of life as opposed to the former corrupt state.
00:53:06.800The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.
00:53:11.960For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him?
00:53:17.800In the same way, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
00:53:22.600We've not received the Spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us.
00:53:29.300This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.
00:53:39.540The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him.
00:53:46.660And he cannot understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
00:53:51.000The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment.
00:53:57.160For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?
00:55:48.980So the best way, you know, to get the thoughts of Jesus inside of our mind is to immerse ourself in the word of God, just like we were talking earlier.
00:55:57.880And I think about, you know, the promise in Joshua 1.8.
00:56:02.840Do not let this book of the law depart from your mouth.
00:56:06.340Meditate on it day and night so that you may be careful to do everything written in it.
00:56:11.060Then you will be prosperous and successful.
00:56:13.480And that's how we defeat the Nephilim agenda in our lives.
00:56:16.700You know, as you were saying this, I'm having like a call back to the color red.
00:56:23.580And I'm also connecting a dot to something that Marzinski said where he's interviewing one of his patients and the patient is hearing these thoughts in his head.
00:56:34.720And actually at the time, this convinced him that these are actually entities.
00:56:39.060He was able to audibly hear this entity.
00:56:43.140He didn't know what it was, but he described it as an electric, like an electric crackling sound.
00:56:48.740Like if you had an electric torch, this kind of thing, and it's going across the room.
00:56:53.600So he's perceiving a frequency or a vibration coming off of this entity that is speaking clear as day to this person.
00:57:05.200And in the end, he said, he asked the guy like weeks later, what did it tell you?
00:57:09.280It said, it told me to get a shank and put it in your guts.
00:57:12.940And I didn't do it because I couldn't find one and no one would give them to me.
00:57:15.820But this overlaps with something that I've always, I'm always talking about on the show.
00:57:20.840And I'm always thinking about, it's the idea of synesthesia where you have musicians that can hear and see color.
00:57:28.460And it's correlated with music and music is just vibrations.
00:57:32.080If you play, you pluck a guitar string, it's going to vibrate a certain number of times.
00:57:35.420And that'll determine if it's an A note or if it's a C note and where on the octave spectrum that is.
00:57:50.480And then it goes all the way to ultraviolet.
00:57:52.160But do you lend any credence to there possibly being like an actual color to these vibrations that it would manifest itself as red?
00:58:05.580And these thoughts would probably be vibrating in this kind of way, like a red vibration would vibrate very high, which is kind of the inverse of what we would call low vibration, high vibration.
00:58:17.400But to me, I've been chewing on, there has to be something there.
00:58:21.300There has to be something related to this color, to frequency, vibration, Tesla, all the stuff that you're talking about.
00:58:29.440Well, I think I'm right there with you asking similar questions, because certainly we know light has frequency, as does sound.
00:58:42.200And so it's all very interesting how it interrelates.
00:58:46.280You know, back to what you were sharing about the gentleman that, you know, was labeled as having schizophrenia, it reminds me of why I ended up on the path I ended up on.
00:58:59.500So an undergraduate, I went to UC San Diego, and I worked at the VA Medical Center.
00:59:05.680And this is where I started doing research back in 1989.
00:59:09.740And I was working in the Department of Psychiatry doing research in the area of schizophrenia.
00:59:14.100And so I would, part of the research was doing clinical interviews with people on locked wards.
00:59:20.520And those that are on locked wards are either a danger to themselves or a danger to others.
00:59:25.140Well, I remember distinctly interviewing one gentleman.
00:59:28.880And, you know, as part of the interview, you ask, do you hear voices?
01:04:28.480And within a year, people still sort of bounce.
01:04:32.040I mean, it's not back to normal, but I look around and I'm like, people are so resilient.
01:04:36.000Like, even the economy, like, if you just let these people do what they have to do, we're going to build, we're going to make beautiful stuff.
01:04:42.280We're going to create and just kind of get back into what we were supposed to be doing.
01:04:47.540But then they apply more pressure, you know.
01:04:49.200But it's just an interesting perspective to see humankind.
01:04:52.460There is something I wanted to pull back the conversation to because, you know, we talked about transhumanism.
01:05:00.840And, of course, with this perpetual debt slavery system being in place, it's very obvious by this conversation that that's the only way that you can get to something like the biblical mention of the mark of the beast.
01:05:19.980And this thing that you need to receive or it hinders your ability to buy or sell or trade goods, you could never, I think, compel a society to get something like that without these immense pressures of perpetual debt.
01:05:36.700And also the fact that as we sit here now, Dr. Sanger, you're talking about transhumanism, you know, the biggest social media platform on the planet is Twitter.
01:05:47.740And it is generating culture in real time, nudging it this way, nudging it that way, gathering the most important research.
01:05:57.260I mean, I'm sorry, the most important resource of our era, which you've said earlier, data.
01:06:03.520And if you look at Twitter as a giant data mining operation, probably the best one in the game right now.
01:06:08.620And it's all headed by a man who wants to put a chip in your mind, which, you know, could you write a better fictional?
01:06:18.180If you wrote that and push it out to Hollywood, it would be a good film.
01:06:21.920But you'd go, well, the people would never stand for the guy who's running the social media organization to also be the guy who's putting chips in your brain.
01:06:31.880And nobody would ever go for that. And yet here we are. Human trials have already started.
01:06:36.360And it's like, man, where this was science fiction, maybe just 10 years ago, it seems as though somebody's really put their foot on the gas.
01:06:44.440And all these things, the mark of the beast, transhumanism, it's it all seems like a not only a reality, but an impending one.
01:06:53.840Absolutely. Yeah. And I think that's why it is so important that I mean, I didn't talk about it much on this podcast interview,
01:07:04.660but I speak a lot about removing mixture from our lives, you know, mixture with the world systems and really coming back to that place of what's called sanctification.
01:07:16.480And that is, you know, purifying our hearts. And I've been praying a dangerous prayer, Psalm 139, 23 through 24, which says,
01:07:26.360Search me, O God, and know my heart. Test me and know my anxious thoughts. See if there's any offensive way in me and lead me in your way everlasting.
01:07:34.980Well, as I've been praying that over the last four months, the Lord is just revealing to me ways that I have mixture in my lives,
01:07:43.040ways that I have idols, you know, my opinion, for example. My opinion can become an idol where I think it's more important that my opinion matters.
01:07:54.380And there's just like all sorts of layers of mixture the Lord is revealing.
01:07:58.780And I think one of the reasons why, you know, we go through that time of like being on the threshing floor, being like wheat threshed is so that we can withstand what darkness is out there.
01:08:14.940And if we remove that mixture from our own lives, it's like we are that the light inside of us is brighter and brighter.
01:08:23.360And so you think about, you know, if you've got all these cockroaches running around in a dark environment, all it takes is flipping the switch with the light and they scurry.
01:08:33.860And one of the things that the Lord told me a couple of years back, as he says, the enemy cannot even find you if you're hidden in my presence.
01:08:41.960So I try and live my life in the presence of the Lord so that it doesn't matter what these Nephilim hosts have planned, because greater is he that is in us than he that is in the world.
01:08:54.380And I just think, you know, we're living in both the both the worst of times, but also the best of times.
01:09:00.760And I just I am so excited to be alive in this day and age because I am seeing Jesus, King Jesus, that is above all of this, do mighty work.
01:09:12.500So I just want to encourage people with that, that we don't have to be afraid.
01:09:20.200Yes, they are, you know, things they're putting in the shots that get in people, frequency wars, you know, they're hitting us on every angle.
01:09:31.120But it's like when we're walking with Jesus and the more that we remove that mixture from our lives, the power of the enemy is impotent in our lives.
01:10:19.120Certainly. I do believe that when I have no idea and I would not presume to know because not even Jesus knows when the end when he's returning.
01:10:29.740I do know that the disciples during Jesus day thought they were in the end times as well.
01:10:35.920And so I want to be one of those people that is one of the virgins with oil in my lamp.
01:10:42.660And so I want to be watching. I don't want to have my head in the sand.
01:10:45.760I want to be pressing into the things that Jesus has for me and has for, you know, how he wants to move in our communities.
01:10:54.380And so I think it's very important to understand scripture, to understand the signs that we're seeing, but also that, again, we don't have to fear.
01:11:04.320I mean, the beautiful thing of the book of Revelation is it's a revelation of Jesus and the goodness and the authority of Jesus.
01:11:12.140I think so often people think about the book of Revelation as this scary book that, you know, here's where all the tribulation happens and the mark of the beast and all of this, you know, stuff is going to come down.
01:11:25.380But we miss the point. And the point is, it's a revelation of Jesus and that he is above all these things.
01:11:33.920So I'm excited. If Jesus comes back tomorrow, I'm ready. If he comes back in three generations from now, that's wonderful, too.
01:11:45.420I am going to just keep pressing after the things that God has for me.
01:11:49.860We do a dissecting the book of Revelation series with Ed Mabry, who is a friend of the show.
01:11:56.820And it is something that we touch on often how just what you've said, the book of Revelation has this sort of doomsday feeling to the general public or maybe even to some Christians.
01:12:11.880But in reality, the more I see things that are undoubtedly biblical prophecy unfolding, the more that is overwhelmingly good news.
01:12:25.140A lot of people will say, oh, well, the Christians, they look at the things that are happening and they think that we're coming to the end of the world.
01:12:32.560And that is such a terrible outlook. And I'm going it is the best outlook you could possibly have, because as Ed Mabry states, it means that at the end, God gets what he always intended for us.
01:12:49.940And that is the absolute best possible outcome you could ever hope for.
01:12:58.360It is such a strange thing, right, the juxtaposition of these events unfolding that are so horrifying until you click in a biblical lens.
01:13:10.960And then all of a sudden it's like, well, these are actually kind of wonderful.
01:13:15.200I guess that that is that sort of beautiful poetry is exactly how you would expect this to unfold.
01:13:24.800Here's a question for you, doctor. Why, if the Nephilim are influencing our elites and and certain people to do certain things, why does it always seem like they're influencing them to fulfill prophecy that will then end in their demise?
01:13:46.080And they do it gleefully and it actually at great expense and it seems like a headache for them to orchestrate a lot of these things.
01:13:59.660That they would be so overrun by, like, kind of, what's the expression, carnal sin, that that is their entire operating system.
01:14:16.100Yeah, I mean, they they're so filled with pride and arrogance and, you know, they've become even more brash in our day and age where they're just like we talked about King Charles portrait.
01:14:33.460It's blatant for those who have eyes to see and so they they just think they're above all things.
01:14:42.980Right. And that's that pride. It's it's the reason why Lucifer fell.
01:14:48.500There's nothing new under the sun. And so pride goes before the fall.
01:14:54.220And so it's it's almost I mean, it's not comical, but it is kind of in a way because they they just keep walking out their own demise,
01:15:04.080thinking that they're in power and thinking that they are the ones that are creating such havoc for us, which they are.
01:15:12.740But in the long run, it's going to lead to their own demise.
01:15:16.560And as long again, I go back to you, as long as we are walking with Jesus, we have that that protection, that covering and we've removed that mixture from our lives.
01:15:28.120So we don't have these open doors where we're targets.
01:15:31.740Then, you know, they're the power of the enemy is impotent against us.
01:15:35.820And it's a little bit comical. You know, it's a little bit like the Wizard of Oz.
01:15:40.500You know, you think the wizard is this, you know, big, bad wizard.
01:15:44.560And then it turns out, no, it's just this little man.
01:15:48.540And so I think about the enemy that way.
01:15:51.000You know, we sometimes we we give it so much power.
01:15:54.420But really, it's like this little tiny insignificant thing in relation to the king of kings.
01:16:02.640I do worry a little bit about people during this time, because, for example, my wife was listening to something the other day.
01:16:11.680And there's a famous comedian and podcaster.
01:16:17.140And what she was talking about caught my ear and they perked up because where I kind of knew her as like a comedian who would just, you know, talk about degeneracy and all these other things.
01:16:33.960And I don't really fault people for that.
01:16:37.640I'm you know, there's something a little bit wrong with me.
01:16:40.200But I wasn't used to hearing this sort of content coming from her.
01:16:44.880And what she's talking about is all of a sudden this interest in Kabbalah, in Jewish mysticism, because essentially what's happened is these things have hit sort of a critical mass.
01:16:59.320Everybody can look, you just kind of spoke to the the brashness, right, the pride of these entities and how they're operating out in the open.
01:17:08.320And so those with eyes to notice are beginning to see.
01:17:13.880And if you don't have a a a sort of Christ centric cornerstone that you're operating from, I think that a lot of people are running the risk right now to go.
01:17:27.600Yeah, there is a spiritual aspect to the world that we inhabit.
01:17:33.600And I'm going to now go down this path because this elite is wearing this red bracelet and that elite is talking about Kabbalah.
01:17:43.700And this is all very interesting to me.
01:17:46.160It's the interesting realization of everyone at the same time after 2020 atheism no longer exists.
01:17:52.980Like you remember the whole God is dead thing.
01:18:13.100But most people have decided, no, there is something more.
01:18:17.100And unfortunately, it seems like a lot of people in America are turning to Moloch or whoever.
01:18:22.840Or the New Age movement, which I think is like we talk about it often.
01:18:26.900It's it's there's a lot of truth in this gnosis, this New Age movement.
01:18:31.800But the very important lies, though they are a smaller percentage of the narrative than the truth.
01:18:40.200They're very important and they sway the entire foundation of what it is that you're starting to understand.
01:18:46.580The way I see it is it's almost like the Bible is telling you what the world is and it's and it's God telling you.
01:18:54.080So this New Age movement is telling you what the world is, but it's the fallen that are telling you.
01:19:00.160And so they are telling you a lot of truth so that you believe them.
01:19:03.800And then there are very, very important destructive lies embedded with it.
01:19:08.160And I think that we often come across this this terminology, right, the great awakening.
01:19:14.080And the other day I made a tweet where I said that state in which you have first woken up from a nap or from sleep.
01:19:24.300If someone were to burst into your room and rip open the curtains, you would be in a state of confusion.
01:19:31.320You'd be woken up from one state into, you know, the real world, but your eyes would not have adjusted yet.
01:19:37.820You wouldn't have shaken off the fog of sleep.
01:19:40.620And in that moment, whoever is there in your face can tell you a lot of things and you'll believe them in your confusion for a while before all these things fade away.
01:19:51.120And I fear that a lot of people are being fed this this New Age movement, you know, whether it's Kabbalah or, you know, whatever it is, doesn't matter.
01:20:03.520Some sort of mysticism and they are still in that state of barely awake.
01:20:09.740And this is where a lot of damage can be done to to mislead people.
01:20:17.920Absolutely. Yeah, I think it's so important to have discernment because there's so many false doctrines out there.
01:20:24.900You really need discernment and pressing into the Holy Spirit to show, you know, what is truth, what is not, because, you know, even within the Christian church, there's a lot of false light, false Jesus, false Holy Spirit.
01:20:40.000And we're we're in those days where we just desperately need the Holy Spirit's discernment.
01:20:46.320Um, what exactly would you say discernment is as a young child?
01:20:52.700They told me in church that I have great discernment.
01:21:28.540I mean, I just personally, I have our family does words for the year, meaning we ask the Lord to show us a word that we're going to focus on.
01:21:49.100I had those same words because I knew I desperately needed to have to grow in my ability to discern.
01:21:57.800So there are gifts of discernment, you know, that that people have the discerning of spirits, being able to tell.
01:22:06.340For example, my oldest son, he has a real strong gift of discernment.
01:22:12.560So probably like you, I'm guessing, as a child, we recognized it.
01:22:18.060And he can just he's very sensitive to things in the spiritual realm.
01:22:21.440He can walk into a store and the rest of us doesn't phase us at all.
01:22:26.720And he feels nauseous and has a headache immediately.
01:22:30.080He's like, I got to get out of the store.
01:22:31.740Or there's something in here that's that's not right.
01:22:35.080So discernment can, you know, people that have that that strength or those gifts of discernment, you can feel different spiritual atmospheres, for example.
01:22:48.800It also can be really difficult for people, because, like I said, you know, I can go into a store and be just fine and he can't.
01:22:56.740And so it's a little bit of a bummer for those that have those strong gifts of discernment.
01:23:01.200But my goodness, is it useful because it can really help people understand, OK, there is something going on in the shadows here that most people aren't seeing.
01:23:12.260And, you know, I actually am involved in what's called spiritual mapping.
01:23:15.820And that looks at, you know, the roots of defilement in, you know, the land and institution, the people group, whatever it is that opens the door to territorial spirits and strongholds.
01:23:29.240And we when we go and do reconnaissance in a territory and just ask the Holy Spirit to show us what's going on spiritually, we are tapping into those gifts of discernment and asking the Holy Spirit, OK, show us what's here.
01:23:43.300And, you know, for me, if I'm in an area that is steeped in witchcraft, for example, I will I can feel dizzy and I can get a headache when there is like real heavy oppression.
01:23:59.200You can literally like feel I feel like it's pushing me down.
01:24:03.380I was in Torino, Italy, which is the witchcraft capital of the world because it's the apex of the witch to witchcraft triangles.
01:24:14.300And immediately when I landed in Torino, it hit me.
01:24:17.880I was nauseous. I had a headache. It was hard for me to focus.
01:24:21.780All of those are gifts of discernment.
01:24:25.840But if you don't if, you know, a person does not have that that level of gift of discernment, I have found that knowing the word of God.
01:24:35.640So if the word of God is your plumb line, when you experience a situation, for example, you can weigh it against what the word of God says.
01:24:44.280And that is a way to grow in discernment.
01:24:46.800If there's a relational issue and you're trying to discern, OK, is this is this a good connection?
01:24:57.180You know, I get tons of people that reach out to me, for example, and I'm always asking the Lord,
01:25:01.540is this somebody that you want for me to connect with beyond just, you know, responding to their email?
01:25:06.700Is there something is there a project we're going to work on together?
01:25:09.940Is there something like a key that each of us has that we need to be in connection with?
01:25:16.600Well, the Lord will show me through scripture oftentimes what what he's trying to show me in a particular relationship.
01:25:25.220So anyways, the word of God is like a plumb line.
01:25:28.780That's one way to grow in your discernment.
01:25:31.040Then I have also found surrounding yourself with other mature believers.
01:25:36.580So being in community with other mature believers really helps in growing in discernment.
01:25:44.220So, for example, I'm in a meeting with somebody, a Zoom meeting, and there's something a little bit off and I can't quite put my finger on it.
01:25:54.540I'm like, Lord, will you help me understand what just happened here?
01:25:58.160Because I'm not there's something I'm feeling and I can't I don't quite understand.
01:26:03.900Well, I can turn to those that are in my network, my close group.
01:26:08.860And these are, you know, my the intercessors that pray for me.
01:26:13.760And I will say if one of them happened to be in the meeting, I'll say, hey, I was when this happened, this is kind of what was going on for me.
01:26:22.340But I'm trying to put my finger on it.
01:26:49.940There's a lot of things that people do say how they act.
01:26:53.720They're just like like slight slight of hand, some behavioral manners that I'm like, I'm looking and I see that I'm like, I don't like this makes me uncomfortable.
01:27:00.840I don't like your the way you're presenting to me, whether it's psychological or you're doing it on purpose.
01:27:28.600It's like that's a good it's a good habit to to form in your neural pathway.
01:27:34.060I do want to say, too, that just you kind of touched on it there, top.
01:27:39.060It almost seems like our our society has geared itself in a way that you're not supposed to judge people, period, and that is becoming a very amorphous but common notion within especially Western society.
01:27:58.200And I think that if done with discernment, you should be maybe judging is such a loaded terminology, but you should be analyzing people constantly and deciding whether or not that this person.
01:28:14.000I mean, it's such a inaccurate notion that we should even do that or even capable of doing that, because every person, I'm sorry, that comes within, you know, 20 feet of me and my my wife and my son.
01:28:28.200I'm making a lot of judgment calls about you as you close the distance, you know, so but we we have this notion within our culture that's like, oh, everybody should be.
01:28:39.080I understand giving people the benefit of the doubt, but if you look like you're bad news, then that's the way that I'm going to treat you as you approach.
01:28:49.140And, you know, if we do come into some sort of dialogue or interaction, then it's up to you to to to prove me wrong.
01:28:55.860But I just think that that is a strange thing that we've been fed.
01:29:00.340And I do wonder if it is doing more damage than good.
01:29:04.600But Dr. Sanger, I know we've had you for a while.
01:29:09.220Is there any other things that you wanted to touch on before we bring this in for a landing?