Nephilim Death Squad - 04： Angelic Rebellion - The Book of Genesis w⧸ Ed Mabrie

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00:02:39.400 Guys, it is Friday, and Fridays are for the Lord.

00:02:42.120 So once again, we are joined by Ed Mabry to continue our Book of Genesis discussion.

00:02:48.040 But before we get into that, Ed, where can people find your work and support you?

00:02:52.420 Yeah, so thanks.

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00:03:03.460 I was actually very surprised, pleasantly surprised with the with the quality of that bad boy.

00:03:07.540 And fortunately, I will tell you that that one of the best things about moving it with my wife and I move into our house,

00:03:12.120 I told her, I just don't want to have to use public laundry anymore.

00:03:16.480 That was like I, I had so I almost got into like literal fights with people who would like screw with my clothes.

00:03:21.880 And the first thing we did when we got into our house, I just did a load of laundry in my own house.

00:03:26.740 So no one's going to take my stuff.

00:03:28.740 Now I'm looking to, I'm looking to move now, Ed, in the next couple of months.

00:03:33.040 And everything I'm like, does it have a washer and dryer unit cannot deal with this anymore?

00:03:37.440 Because yeah, it's a it's almost always a combat situation.

00:03:40.680 Or we found my clothes.

00:03:42.260 They're being sold on Facebook market.

00:03:44.220 Incredible.

00:03:44.760 I already brought a couple of shirts.

00:03:46.700 Unbelievable, dude.

00:03:47.680 I lived in an apartment for 12 years before I got a house.

00:03:50.040 So and that was yeah, it was it was glorious.

00:03:51.800 I opened up a bottle of wine when we when we did our first laundry.

00:03:54.300 I'm a handyman.

00:03:57.640 So I was like living in the basement in some basement apartment.

00:04:01.200 And I figured out that they had a water connection and an extra closet.

00:04:04.960 And I literally just took it upon myself to figure out how to like Jimmy this water connection

00:04:09.280 and then convert the voltage to 220.

00:04:13.200 I kind of wash or dry a setup.

00:04:14.920 And yeah, because I'm not washing my clothes with a bunch of plebs.

00:04:17.400 I just yeah, dude, I've been making that mistake constantly.

00:04:20.020 And it genuinely is a mistake.

00:04:21.840 The other day, my wife was out there.

00:04:23.320 She's doing laundry.

00:04:24.440 And all of a sudden, some guy I get this intuition, right?

00:04:27.560 I go, I got to go look outside and see make sure my wife's okay.

00:04:30.800 As I look outside, some dudes pedaling his bike up to the laundry room.

00:04:33.880 And the next thing you know, I almost end up fighting the guy.

00:04:36.260 He starts talking shit to me because I'm watching him to make sure he doesn't do anything to my wife.

00:04:40.560 He tells my wife she's beautiful.

00:04:42.040 And then basically says there's no way that this short piece of shit has a girlfriend,

00:04:46.460 which, you know, in his defense, he's not far from the mark.

00:04:49.720 But geez, man, all I want to do is do some laundry.

00:04:51.940 So, yeah, if you can get out and not have to worry about that kind of crap, God bless you.

00:04:57.160 Okay.

00:04:57.740 So with the laundry talk out of the way, which was very important.

00:05:00.440 I mean, it was very hard to talk about this because I'm pretty sure there's a chapter in Genesis about that.

00:05:05.280 Is there?

00:05:05.440 There is.

00:05:05.700 Yeah.

00:05:06.140 Doubt shall not to do another man's laundry.

00:05:08.280 Yeah.

00:05:09.080 You'll be stoned.

00:05:10.040 There's stones and stones until death.

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00:06:33.880 Um, as from the supernatural point of view, from the spiritual perspective, because again, it's, it's not our story.

00:06:40.020 It's Jehovah's story, which is why we call it that.

00:06:43.020 And, and yeah, it's, it's been life-changing to a lot of people.

00:06:46.320 It was life-changing to me.

00:06:47.380 And it really, the whole purpose of it is to help you understand God better, to help your walk with God so that you know who he is, so that you won't know who he's not.

00:06:57.240 So when some person, some dangerous tard comes up and says, God is this, that, or the other, you're like, no, no, no, no, I know, I know who God is.

00:07:05.080 So I, I will, I won't fall for it.

00:07:08.300 I told a story a lot about my, my eighth grade, um, trip.

00:07:11.840 We were graduating from eighth grade.

00:07:13.060 We went to Washington, DC.

00:07:14.320 And one of the places we went to was the U S mint, you know, where they, where they print our fake money.

00:07:17.920 And we talked to a guy there who was, he was in charge of counterfeiting.

00:07:22.880 He was like the head of the department.

00:07:24.780 And he said something really interesting.

00:07:26.240 He said, you know what?

00:07:26.700 Tell us how you really feel, Ed.

00:07:30.180 I'm looking at the stock market and watching all my, my fake money appear and disappear magically.

00:07:38.220 That's why I'm in a mood.

00:07:39.700 The stock market has been like getting its ass kicked the last week, but it's actually a buying opportunity.

00:07:43.800 So yes, that's what I saw it as.

00:07:44.980 And I, I bought more crypto, uh, when I, I have no idea what I'm doing, but I just know, I was like, oh, it's low.

00:07:50.340 It's affordable.

00:07:50.860 I'm going to do it again.

00:07:51.920 Yeah.

00:07:52.120 Yes.

00:07:52.580 Get some XRP.

00:07:53.400 It's, it's, it's just the money.

00:07:54.540 It's just the crypto, the NSA sponsors.

00:07:56.620 So yeah, that's the one I picked up.

00:07:59.060 Um, but anyway, so we asked him, like, how do you, how do you, um, how do you do your job?

00:08:03.160 How do you make sure that, um, all these different counterfeits are, how do you detect them?

00:08:07.080 And he said that I don't study all the fake, all the fake bills.

00:08:10.440 There's too many of them.

00:08:11.300 What I do, I become an expert on the real money.

00:08:14.100 You know, I know the colors, the shading, the fiber count, all that kind of stuff.

00:08:19.100 So I know that so well, that's so ingrained.

00:08:20.900 So as soon as, so that if I see anything that's even slightly off, I'll know it's a counterfeit.

00:08:25.500 And that's, I think this should be the same way with God.

00:08:27.300 Don't study all the false theories and all the, everyone who has all their, you know, all their, um, their different shenanigans, their different opinions and all their different doctrines.

00:08:36.960 Study the real God.

00:08:38.500 And if you know who God really is, that anytime you see something that diverges from that, you'll say, okay, I can throw that out.

00:08:43.380 That's not, that's not real.

00:08:44.520 That's how I do it.

00:08:45.540 We saw the, um, the guy that recovered the, the egg shaped UAP, uh, the pilot, he's talking

00:08:51.020 about how he was possessed by the spirit of God, but it was feminine.

00:08:54.120 Uh, it was an incredibly feminine, not, not masculine in any sense, I believe is the language

00:08:57.780 that he used.

00:08:58.460 And, um, well, I mean, if you don't know, then maybe you could fall for that sort of thing.

00:09:02.820 But if you do know, you can go, that's, that's not God, dog.

00:09:05.580 You're being spoken to by something else.

00:09:07.200 So, uh, yeah, very important to be able to discern, especially during these times.

00:09:11.220 I just watched a video of, uh, Roseanne Barr and she's saying, maybe we'll bring that up

00:09:16.100 at some, no, actually this is for the book.

00:09:17.440 But she's talking about their, the Jewish Messiah is soon going to appear.

00:09:23.380 Um, and we've all got to get really right with, and, and what I would agree with Roseanne

00:09:28.160 is like, there's something on the horizon.

00:09:29.640 Something is coming.

00:09:30.580 Uh, it's going to be a large deception.

00:09:32.200 So, uh, maybe there's never been a more important time to get right and try to make sure that

00:09:36.840 you know the difference.

00:09:37.680 Right now we have, uh, this, uh, Christ is King movement coming back along.

00:09:43.140 And, uh, like part, part of me agrees with, uh, with some of the people that are, are saying

00:09:47.320 like, it's a, it's a bit of an op, like to use the phrase Christ is King as a battering

00:09:52.240 ram.

00:09:52.480 And I'm like, I see how that's being used.

00:09:54.040 And I understand that.

00:09:55.040 Um, but the people that are, uh, vehemently against it, they're against it for a very specific

00:10:01.260 reason.

00:10:01.700 And it's not because their feelings are hurt.

00:10:03.940 They're against it because they literally don't believe that.

00:10:07.720 And it, again, so if, uh, the Jewish Messiah is coming and you have most of the population

00:10:13.460 in America, the Christian population saying Christ is King right around Easter, I could see

00:10:17.620 how that would, uh, affect these people in a certain way.

00:10:20.520 So I'm like, I really just hate it.

00:10:24.320 I hate it so much that, uh, it's cause it is being co-opted by some people and used as

00:10:30.880 a slur.

00:10:31.980 Yeah.

00:10:32.560 But part of me is like, good.

00:10:35.040 Like you, you need, I'm, I'm glad that it's being used and being said at all.

00:10:39.900 Right.

00:10:40.400 Cause it's going to be offensive in its nature, right?

00:10:42.980 If they don't believe that Christ is the son of God, the Messiah.

00:10:46.560 Um, then of course, just proclaiming that, which is the central point of Christianity

00:10:52.320 is offensive to them.

00:10:54.300 Yeah.

00:10:54.760 I mean, it makes you mad.

00:10:56.320 And, uh, I think it's also a good point.

00:10:58.360 I've been, I've been kind of beating this drum for a little bit.

00:11:01.500 Uh, but, uh, I looked up when the mission was, uh.

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00:12:21.940 Created when it was put together.

00:12:23.480 The mission is like the founding principles of Judaism.

00:12:25.720 And it was put together 200 years after the current era.

00:12:29.440 So where I'm standing, and then also look at the Babylonian Talmud, that was put together

00:12:33.980 500 years CE.

00:12:35.640 That means after Jesus Christ.

00:12:37.380 This entire religion is a response to Jesus Christ.

00:12:41.800 The church came right after Jesus.

00:12:44.140 He actually instructed it.

00:12:45.620 So your response 200 years later was to form this religion.

00:12:49.080 And then you've conveniently attached it to ours with your Schofield Bible, with your ideas

00:12:55.060 of Judeo-Christianity in the West.

00:12:57.680 No, not the case.

00:12:58.840 Not the case at all.

00:12:59.740 As a matter of fact, get out of my religion.

00:13:02.680 Stop talking about it.

00:13:04.000 When we say Christ is king, this has nothing to do with you.

00:13:07.140 If you're offended by it, whatever.

00:13:09.180 Take your ball, go somewhere else.

00:13:10.460 As a matter of fact, we did a whole world war for you to put you in Israel.

00:13:14.680 You can go over there.

00:13:15.720 But just leave us alone with this.

00:13:17.220 We're doing something here.

00:13:18.600 And it's very frustrating, Jordan Peterson and Shapiro.

00:13:21.420 But they're doing the opposite.

00:13:22.460 They're not leaving us alone.

00:13:23.960 They're trying to pass legislation that makes it hate speech to even talk about these things.

00:13:27.180 And I wonder at what point does, because if they're already passing anti-Semitism laws,

00:13:31.040 and now they're trying to identify the phrase Christ is king with some sort of anti-Semitic

00:13:35.700 trope, then at what point do you start to try to create legislation to prevent me from

00:13:40.240 saying that?

00:13:40.820 That is the opposite of leaving me the hell alone.

00:13:44.740 Yeah, it's interesting.

00:13:45.580 I usually don't get too much into politics.

00:13:49.460 I mean, even though I recognize it, but it's just not my lane on faith by reason.

00:13:53.800 But I will say a couple of things I want to bring out, because I use the term Judeo-Christian

00:13:57.680 all the time.

00:13:58.420 And by that, I mean Old and New Testament.

00:14:01.460 And I mean that that's holistic.

00:14:03.500 We believe as Christians that there's no separation between the Testaments as far as Christianity

00:14:09.160 is concerned.

00:14:09.640 It's not like there was one God, and then there's a new God.

00:14:13.780 And a lot of Christians believe that.

00:14:15.000 They'll say that, you know, I'm a New Testament Christian.

00:14:17.040 I only believe in the works of Jesus.

00:14:18.640 I'm like, well, you wouldn't even know who Jesus was without the quote-unquote Old Testament.

00:14:22.600 There's no separation between the two.

00:14:24.220 Jesus was predicted over 300 times in the Old Testament.

00:14:27.940 Jesus was not a New Testament Christian.

00:14:29.600 In fact, I would argue, and I've gotten in trouble for this before, and I would argue

00:14:34.020 that the Gospels are Old Testament books.

00:14:35.900 If a separation is between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant, the New Covenant doesn't

00:14:40.720 start until Jesus resurrects.

00:14:42.660 There is no church until he resurrects.

00:14:44.640 So Jesus lived under the law.

00:14:46.280 Jesus lived under the Levitical law.

00:14:48.640 You know, all of the disciples did.

00:14:51.980 So Christianity, the New Testament, really shouldn't start until the resurrection of Jesus.

00:14:57.200 So that's why I wanted to make that clear, that you can't have one without the other.

00:15:01.680 So that's what I mean.

00:15:02.300 What I don't mean is like, you know, what you were just talking about, Top, about separating the two and like there's a Judaism and Christianity.

00:15:12.020 No, it's one message.

00:15:15.140 And it just happens that Christians, for Christians, the message doesn't stop at Malachi.

00:15:20.020 It, you know, it continues.

00:15:23.620 And as far as Christ is king, well, Jesus was Jewish.

00:15:27.120 So if that's offensive to you, it's not like, you know, he was like some Aryan guy who says, I'm the king now.

00:15:33.740 But he was actually, he was, Jesus was born an ethnic Jew from the tribe of Judah.

00:15:39.560 Well, this is the question that I'm kind of asking here is like, all right, so if Jesus was a Jew, well, number one, what is a Jew?

00:15:45.680 But what are these, what are these people considered?

00:15:47.940 What are they, because like you said, the Old Testament looks like a continuation of the Bible.

00:15:52.920 And then Jesus comes and fulfills it.

00:15:54.760 And then the New Testament is basically about what he did.

00:15:56.900 And then we have the book of Revelation telling us at the end.

00:15:59.860 These guys just kind of, they ignore that part.

00:16:02.640 Then they take parts of the Old Testament.

00:16:04.680 They conveniently ignore Isaiah 53 and some chapters in Daniel because it doesn't fit.

00:16:09.460 And they create a Mishnah, which is like they're, how they're going to rule, how they're going to look at society.

00:16:15.020 But this is also, this is 200 years after the death of Christ.

00:16:18.360 So like he dies.

00:16:19.920 You realize that there's this huge movement and then you start to organize.

00:16:24.180 And now I'm supposed to, like as a current day Christian, we're supposed to look at this as like, they are our, they are our greatest ally and our brothers.

00:16:33.400 But I just don't think so.

00:16:34.400 I think that this is, they've been formed in response to what Jesus created and what we're doing here.

00:16:41.120 And then you look at like the kind of subversion that we have going on.

00:16:44.800 I'm like, it's just not good.

00:16:46.220 And I would love to leave it alone, but it's just every week this comes up and every week I have to argue with somebody about these people.

00:16:54.460 And I'm like, I don't even know.

00:16:55.800 So if Jesus was a Jew in the sense that we're talking about, then what are these guys?

00:16:59.540 They're from like a similar bloodline, but they're not doing the same thing that we're doing.

00:17:03.680 It's very confusing.

00:17:04.540 Well, that's even the idea that they're from a similar bloodline.

00:17:06.680 This conversation, I think the reason it keeps getting rehashed so aggressively is because we can't even identify what a Jew is.

00:17:12.520 You could be ethnically Jewish.

00:17:13.620 You could be religiously Jewish.

00:17:15.020 You could be atheist, Zionist Jewish.

00:17:17.000 Like I don't even understand what that means.

00:17:20.240 And so it's like.

00:17:21.420 Is it a race?

00:17:22.060 Is it a culture?

00:17:22.740 Right, and you have people that are so at odds dichotomy wise with one another, but still identify with each other as Jews.

00:17:31.860 It becomes impossible to even have the conversation or have the argument because we can't even establish these foundational things.

00:17:38.520 What is a Jew?

00:17:39.340 And so until that comes, I don't think.

00:17:41.500 And I've been joking around.

00:17:42.280 I think we need Matt Walsh.

00:17:44.200 You know, he does.

00:17:44.800 What is a woman?

00:17:45.680 He needs to do.

00:17:46.620 What is a Jew?

00:17:47.080 He needs to hit the street and start figuring it out because I don't necessarily have an answer.

00:17:50.500 It becomes very convoluted.

00:17:52.320 He might end up in jail if he does that.

00:17:55.560 Because here's the thing.

00:17:57.240 I'll just give you my two cents on it.

00:17:59.280 As far as what the Bible says, a, actually let me say an Israelite is because that term, you don't really see it until later on because what happens is Israelite, Jews were considered of the tribe of Judah.

00:18:15.300 That's where it comes from.

00:18:16.320 And I, I'm trying not to get in trouble here.

00:18:20.180 I, it says, it uses, it's in the Bible, it uses it as, as, as an Israelite.

00:18:27.100 And the Bible says that it calls Israelites Jews.

00:18:30.100 It also calls Israelites Israelites.

00:18:31.500 I like to use the term Israelite because I want to be clear.

00:18:33.800 I'm talking about the 12 tribes, the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

00:18:37.880 So the Bible says that you are a, he makes these promises.

00:18:42.540 His chosen people are the physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, specifically Jacob's 12 sons, which make up the 12 tribes.

00:18:49.040 But you can also become a, a, a Jew by, um, by accepting Judaism.

00:18:56.600 And there's samples of that in the Bible.

00:18:57.920 You have, you know, Rahab, who was a Gentile in Jericho.

00:19:01.100 She marries in to, into the, into, um, into the tribes and she becomes one.

00:19:06.700 And they have other people who have done this.

00:19:08.380 You can become by marriage, by belief.

00:19:10.740 Well, what would you, what would you call the, um, what would you call like Moses or the people after him?

00:19:17.480 Were they like, uh, were they studying Judaism?

00:19:20.660 Because like, like I said, if we're forming the Torah, Judaism is, you know, I would, I would define Judaism as more of a religion.

00:19:30.460 And by religion, I mean, man-made stuff is, I put it in the same category as Catholicism.

00:19:34.400 Yes.

00:19:34.900 Um, you could argue that a Catholic is a Christian because if they believe in the tenants of Christianity,

00:19:40.640 but then they add things to it that are either extrapolations from the Bible or maybe not even biblical at all.

00:19:47.800 I mean, I get into a lot of discussions with some hostile discussions with people who are very devout Catholics,

00:19:53.580 because I'll tell them there are things that you have in your, in your catechisms that are either conflict with or contradict the Bible.

00:20:00.080 You're only supposed to worship, you worship the Lord, your God and him only shall you worship, but they worship Mary.

00:20:05.580 And they'll say, no, we don't, we don't worship Mary.

00:20:07.060 We just revere her.

00:20:08.080 Well, you pray to her.

00:20:09.060 The Pope John Paul, the second says she was your co-redeemer.

00:20:12.520 Maybe we have different ideas of what worship is, but if you're praying to someone and you're relying on them as a portion of your salvation, that sounds like worship to me.

00:20:19.600 And even if you, even if we want to, um, you know, have quibble on what worship means, the Bible is very clear that it's Jesus alone for your salvation.

00:20:27.080 If you believe in something else, if you believe you have to take a Eucharist for a certain amount of times to be saved, if you have to do indulgences and all this kind of stuff, you're adding things on to the Bible.

00:20:35.620 I'm not saying you're not a Christian.

00:20:36.980 If you believe that Jesus died for your sins, according to the scriptures, I will acquiesce that you're a Christian, but you're doing things that are above and beyond.

00:20:44.220 So I say, I see the same thing with Judaism.

00:20:47.320 I would, I would actually call someone who was pure into that.

00:20:52.220 Someone who follows the Torah.

00:20:54.160 The Torah are the books of Moses and the Torah and Tanakh, the law and the prophets.

00:20:59.080 If Judaism adds things onto that, and that's why Jesus was always fighting with the Pharisees.

00:21:03.520 And he told them, you, you, you guys keep up these, these new conditions that you put on men for your own sake.

00:21:11.060 Remember when Jesus was on earth, the only people he had a problem with wasn't, wasn't the tax collectors.

00:21:15.860 It wasn't the prostitutes.

00:21:16.800 It wasn't the centers or he only had a problem with the religious people, the Pharisees.

00:21:20.580 And because he said that the Pharisees were putting all these extra burdens on men that God didn't tell them to, that they had to do.

00:21:27.980 And the reason that Jesus, that, that took Jesus off so much is because it misrepresents God.

00:21:32.840 So if you put all these burdens, like, you know, you, you can't pick an ear of corn on the Sabbath to eat.

00:21:37.440 If you're hungry, God never said that.

00:21:39.360 He said, you shouldn't work.

00:21:40.580 He didn't say you can't, you can't pull a piece of corn off, off, off a cop and have something if you're hungry.

00:21:46.120 That's, and if, and if you think that that's who God is, you're like, okay, this God is so restrictive.

00:21:50.580 I have to, you know, sequester myself on the Sabbath and not do anything.

00:21:54.720 Now you have a harsh opinion of God and that's going to affect the rest of your theology.

00:21:58.460 And that's why I think I've said it on this show before.

00:22:02.100 Catholics make the best atheists because really logical thinking people who are raised in Catholicism, they see all this stuff that the Catholics say they have to do.

00:22:11.520 In fact, I was listening to Candace Owens yesterday and she was like, she just said off the cuff, you know, and I have to make sure I go to mass because if you don't go to mass on Sunday, it's a sin.

00:22:20.580 Okay.

00:22:21.860 That is not biblical.

00:22:24.480 So if, what if you're sick and you can't go to a mass, what if you're traveling?

00:22:28.900 So you tell me that God is going to hold you accountable for that, that that's a sin, not going to a service.

00:22:34.560 No, God never says that.

00:22:36.120 That is something that man puts on top of what God said.

00:22:39.340 And it makes you think that God is this horrible, restrictive dictator.

00:22:42.980 And if you're raised in that and you're like, I don't want all this stuff on me.

00:22:47.400 If I don't confess my sins to a priest, I'm going to go to hell.

00:22:50.920 Screw that.

00:22:51.600 I'm going to, I don't believe in this God.

00:22:53.160 So that's the problem.

00:22:54.280 It misrepresents God.

00:22:55.660 And that's what, by the way, that's what taking the name of God in vain means.

00:22:58.640 It doesn't mean cursing.

00:22:59.820 Taking the name of the Lord in vain means making vain means of no effect.

00:23:02.900 Basically, if you take the name of God, you're misrepresenting God.

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00:24:07.620 And you're making him vain.

00:24:09.900 You're making it futile by doing these sorts of things.

00:24:14.120 You are making, you're taking, because someone's name isn't just, you know, because God isn't a name.

00:24:17.680 God's a title.

00:24:18.560 It's Elohim.

00:24:19.220 When you're taking his name in vain, what you're doing is you're misrepresenting him.

00:24:24.220 And you're making him of no effect by doing that.

00:24:27.360 So back to the thing.

00:24:28.420 That's what Judaism is doing.

00:24:29.880 That's what Catholicism does.

00:24:31.460 It makes his name of no effect by adding all this, all the stuff from men.

00:24:35.420 So if you are, if you happen to be a believer in the Torah and Tanakh and you're not, you don't believe in Jesus, then all you should, all you have to, all you're doing is obeying the Levitical law.

00:24:46.780 Fine.

00:24:47.460 But when you're doing Judaism, like you said, top, that's new stuff that happened that was put on top of it.

00:24:52.860 So, you know, we need to, we need to understand these things.

00:24:55.400 And that's why I said, it's so important to understand who God is, what his true will is.

00:25:00.840 So you're not going to fall for all this stuff.

00:25:02.320 I feel like I agree with you a hundred percent.

00:25:04.780 I just feel like I'm stuck in this place where I have to like have these definitions because it's now that we're talking into a microphone, I have to explain to people.

00:25:13.260 And if I say Judaism, it's like, well, what does that mean?

00:25:15.720 You're talking about from the times of Moses or this new stuff.

00:25:18.300 And it's like, there has to be definitions so that people can delineate what we are, what we mean when I say something.

00:25:25.240 But instead it's just Jew.

00:25:26.840 And it's like, well, Jesus was a Jew, but so like everybody else is a Jew.

00:25:30.580 And I'm talking about Judaism and like, this is like age old, but like, what specifically do you mean?

00:25:35.720 And when I, the reality is, and I, people in church and good, good people will tell you, you've got to know God.

00:25:41.140 And it's like, I understand that.

00:25:42.680 But like what we're doing here, I feel like I have to know a little bit more.

00:25:46.660 Well, I would almost say top that that's the, the burden of the time that we're living in.

00:25:51.040 Right. Because revelation three, nine says that, uh, there will call themselves Jews, but are not, they are of the synagogue of Satan.

00:25:57.180 So it's, it's very clear that there's going to be this obfuscation.

00:26:00.160 There's going to be people that are claiming to be, but are not.

00:26:02.640 And I think that this conversation, the confusion that we're having right now is what enables that prophecy to become true.

00:26:09.820 Right. You can't really have people, um, masquerading as one thing, if it's easy to see through, especially if it's going to be biblical prophecy.

00:26:17.400 So I think you're right. And, and, you know, tangoing with these ideas, but I think it's also just the burden of the time that we're in.

00:26:23.600 Let me ask you, do you think, do you think it's right for me to not just tango in these ideas, but to also say like, Hey, like, I think to the Christian movement, like you don't have to really like lay down and accept if, if this doesn't feel right in your heart, because I think a lot of people see this stuff and they're like, this doesn't sit right with me, but I really don't want to.

00:26:42.880 Jesus said to kind of like, you know, love your neighbor and sit back. But I'm, I'm of the mindset. It's like, but he also doesn't really want you to take this bullshit.

00:26:51.180 And when, when we hear it, it's super effective because it's, it's permeating through our culture.

00:26:55.500 So now we sit back as Christians and just say like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to say anything because it might hurt somebody.

00:27:02.220 And it is hurtful what I'm saying, what I'm saying. I like, I understand that my words cut like a knife, but like, damn, somebody's got to say it or we're just going to continue to spiral and devolve.

00:27:11.360 And what's the answer there? Do I sit back and do nothing or am I doing the right thing?

00:27:15.960 So let me tell you the two things. So one, I understand the mindset of the Christian who says, well, I can't criticize the Jews.

00:27:24.600 And the reason I know that mindset is because I grew up in it. I wouldn't say that my church were Christian Zionists per se, but I think it has maybe goes back to Schofield and all that kind of stuff.

00:27:34.140 And we'll have to have a show on the Schofield Bible because I'm, because I've been getting a lot of questions about that, but that's a whole other thing.

00:27:40.460 But I was taught that, you know, the Jews are, they're God's chosen people. And, you know, and then you have the Abrahamic blessing, you know, I will bless them that bless you and curse them to curse you.

00:27:49.480 So I'm like, well, I guess I better not say anything bad because I don't want to be under that curse, but also understand something that what, what a curse is, a curse is speaking badly about someone.

00:27:59.160 A blessing is speaking well about them. And so, but that, that, that, that admonition to bless them and curse them was, was meant towards, again, the actual, the actual descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

00:28:14.180 And if we have to make sure that we're talking about them, and also we have to make sure that they are being obedient.

00:28:19.580 Because if you look throughout the Old Testament, God says some really harsh things about them.

00:28:24.740 I mean, the two thirds of the Old Testament is just God kicking the crap out of Israel because they keep screwing up and he's called them, whatever you want to say badly about these people, you can't say anything worse than what God said about them.

00:28:37.500 I mean, I don't have off the top of my head, but I just remember, you know, there are things where he calls them, you know, stubborn, stiff necked.

00:28:44.000 He would, you know, say that, you know, you guys are as dumb as camels. There's actually a verse, I think, in Jeremiah that says, you guys are as dumb as a bunch of camels.

00:28:51.640 He says that, I wish I had the chapter in verse in front of me, maybe I'll find it and send it later.

00:28:55.920 So if God can criticize them, then, you know, so then I don't see any reason why we can't.

00:29:02.240 And to get to what you were saying before, Tom said, yeah, Jesus says to love your enemies.

00:29:08.920 But what was, what did Jesus mean when he said, when he said that?

00:29:11.580 And I think a lot of us have this cultural Jesus in our head, like this, you know, super nice, lovable human teddy bear who never got angry or never did anything other than just say peace and love, brother.

00:29:22.640 No, Jesus also beat the crap out of people in the temple for who were, who were changing money.

00:29:27.660 And I think if we talked about this before, it's not like he just said, hey, get out of my father's house.

00:29:30.660 He said, okay, I'll be back. I'm going to go and make a whip.

00:29:33.580 I'm going to tie ropes together and come in and turn over your tables and physically beat you out of the temple.

00:29:38.380 Yeah. So this is something. Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead.

00:29:41.800 No. Well, just to wrap it up, when he's talking about love your neighbor, well, what does that mean?

00:29:47.660 He's expounding on the law.

00:29:50.040 He was saying, you've heard it in your day, you know, to, you know, love your neighbor and hate your enemy.

00:29:56.300 I'm telling you not to love your enemy.

00:29:57.640 And what is love? Love is giving without the expectation of getting anything in return.

00:30:01.300 It's not a feeling. It doesn't mean you have to like these people.

00:30:04.760 It means you have to give to them without expecting anything to return in return.

00:30:08.920 Giving can also be admonitions.

00:30:11.900 If you, if someone is doing something wrong and you love them, you're not going to say, keep doing what's wrong.

00:30:16.620 You're going to say, hey, you are doing, you're screwing up.

00:30:19.000 You need to get it together.

00:30:20.620 But I love my sons.

00:30:22.480 When my sons are screwing up, if they're, if they're like, you know, my, my youngest son, he's been having trouble doing his homework.

00:30:26.840 He's just been ignoring it.

00:30:29.600 What would be loving me to say, oh, it's okay, son.

00:30:31.580 You don't like doing your homework.

00:30:32.720 It's fine.

00:30:33.340 Just go play on your, on your Nintendo switch.

00:30:35.640 No, the loving thing was to say, get your ass back upstairs, do your homework, because this is what's going to be best for you in the long run.

00:30:42.780 Right.

00:30:43.020 So all that is my long winded answer to you.

00:30:45.740 Top is basically saying admonishing people for their sake is love.

00:30:51.060 And if you're admonishing people and if you're doing it just to be mean to them, that's not love.

00:30:55.060 But if you're saying, hey, you guys are wrong and because you're wrong, you're going to harm yourself.

00:31:00.200 Here's, maybe you should consider this because then you'll be right and then you'll be helping yourself.

00:31:05.300 That's loving.

00:31:06.900 If someone's on drug, you don't tell them, hey, here's some more Coke.

00:31:09.680 Say, no, get off drugs.

00:31:11.140 They're going to have to drag you out of there and, you know, and take your money from you.

00:31:14.920 I think the tricky part for me is that I understand what's successful when talking to like a large, because I'm not just talking to them.

00:31:22.480 There's an audience.

00:31:23.520 You know, it's a it's very much like a like a heckler on stage.

00:31:26.920 So I'm not just addressing you.

00:31:28.840 I'm speaking to you and the broader audience.

00:31:31.360 And if I want to just talk to you, I'll DM you and I'll be honest and truthful with you.

00:31:35.420 But most of these people that are given these these stupid statements or they're creating propaganda videos, I'm responding to them in a broad brush because I understand that you are partaking in this.

00:31:46.500 So I will partake in this and we'll talk to the audience.

00:31:49.160 And then there comes this level of sarcasm and comedy and flippancy that I have to display to get my point across.

00:31:56.160 And it seems mean, but I'm like, I don't really want to kill you.

00:32:00.180 I just kind of want you to stop.

00:32:01.660 And I think, you know, you're doing the wrong thing.

00:32:04.100 And it it's just a weird what a weird time.

00:32:07.120 I'd rather not be at the end of a dangerous retards yesterday.

00:32:11.760 And I think that, you know, there's there's this history of like martyred saints, like decapitated saints who are still proclaiming the name of Jesus Christ.

00:32:20.440 Yeah. Right. And it's like, so Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life and the adversary.

00:32:29.380 Satan is the father of lies.

00:32:30.880 So there's this there's this fight, this constant fight between, you know, truth and lies.

00:32:36.000 And it's always been dangerous to tell the truth.

00:32:40.120 And so in that way, like, you know, if we're worried about whether it's aggressive or it's mean, it's like this is what ends up getting people decapitated.

00:32:46.880 So you're going to say it and you're going to say it with your whole chest, because I kind of think that's the point.

00:32:54.240 That's why we're here in very many ways is to speak the truth.

00:32:57.420 And so if you hope to be in alignment with the truth, you're in a very dangerous business.

00:33:02.780 And I don't think that you go about that worrying about feelings.

00:33:06.040 I just don't think that that's in fact, we got to much of the problems we're in right now worrying about feelings.

00:33:11.080 Yeah, well, I just want to read something really quick to you from from from this nice, sweet guy.

00:33:17.220 I want you to hear what he said.

00:33:18.720 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men.

00:33:22.920 For you enter not in yourselves, you enter not in yourselves.

00:33:25.880 Neither do you allow others to enter in that gate.

00:33:28.000 What is Jesus saying here?

00:33:29.900 He said he is cursing the Pharisees.

00:33:32.960 Why?

00:33:33.820 Because because they were doing harm.

00:33:35.960 So my point with that is, it is very Christlike to call somebody out if they are doing something wrong that is harming other people.

00:33:43.020 He didn't say, hey, Pharisees, come to me and repent.

00:33:45.760 You guys are going to be it's going to be.

00:33:46.780 He said, no, you guys suck.

00:33:48.540 And the reason you suck is because you are screwing things up for other people through your words.

00:33:52.440 So if there is nothing wrong with righteous anger, if there is, then Jesus was wrong because Jordan, Jordan Peterson, he quoted that scripture.

00:34:01.700 Oh, can you hear me now?

00:34:04.060 Is that me or no?

00:34:05.960 I can hear you, Top.

00:34:07.220 You can hear me?

00:34:07.880 OK, maybe this is maybe this is on my end because I cannot hear you guys anymore.

00:34:11.260 All right.

00:34:11.620 Oh, you can't hear either of us?

00:34:12.780 Yeah, refresh.

00:34:13.740 I see.

00:34:14.400 This is this means refresh.

00:34:15.520 OK, I'm going to leave.

00:34:16.560 I'm going to leave and come back.

00:34:17.520 There you go.

00:34:18.180 Sorry, guys.

00:34:19.460 What were you going to say, though?

00:34:20.480 Because I think it's fascinating, Top, that Jordan Peterson, the guy who tried to reduce the Bible to I mean, he introduced it to a lot of people when I was I was happy at a time.

00:34:28.180 But then I realized that he's reduced it almost strictly to allegory and he's removed all the spirituality from it.

00:34:33.460 And and so I find it fascinating that he's the guy that's doing this study or co-authoring this, you know, Christ is King is anti-Semitic report.

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00:35:42.760 Yeah.

00:35:43.000 And I think it's very useful to look at the Bible in that way as well, but it's not specifically that way.

00:35:49.320 But yeah, it's a great book that you should look at from a bunch of different angles.

00:35:53.660 He blocked me, so I don't really have his entire tweet thread here.

00:35:57.820 Here's Ed.

00:35:58.220 Ed's back.

00:35:59.200 Oh, sorry.

00:35:59.660 Okay.

00:35:59.960 Can you hear me now, Ed?

00:36:01.080 Yeah, I guess I was saying something dangerous.

00:36:02.660 I got...

00:36:03.120 That's what happened.

00:36:04.040 You got nuked.

00:36:04.660 That's what happened.

00:36:05.080 Yeah, they start screwing with the...

00:36:06.400 I was saying that that exact scripture that you just read was quoted by Jordan Peterson

00:36:12.540 as a tool against Candace Owens for saying...

00:36:15.800 So this is now...

00:36:16.720 Now I'm like, I have to go after these people because they know what they're doing and they're

00:36:20.740 dabbling in this...

00:36:22.020 Like Jordan Peterson, who when asked if he believes in God, he's just, well, what do you

00:36:26.680 mean by God?

00:36:27.640 And what do you mean by do?

00:36:29.180 And it's like, just yes or no, Jordan.

00:36:31.840 But then when Candace Owens is out there, and she's not right about everything either.

00:36:35.420 I don't really agree with her about much, to be honest.

00:36:38.280 But in this, I think she's like, you know, on the right track.

00:36:41.660 And he's calling her the Pharisee.

00:36:44.080 When in fact, I'm like, Jordan, you work for Talmudic Jewish people who hate Jesus.

00:36:50.180 They've compared him to George Floyd.

00:36:51.900 Like, it's like, yeah, it's wild how awful they have been.

00:36:57.140 And we're like, we're supposed to sit there.

00:36:59.060 All right, listen, we have to cover the book of Genesis.

00:37:03.740 Yes, I'm sorry, Ed.

00:37:06.000 We got it.

00:37:07.360 I was, I'm as guilty of it as you guys, as everyone here, because it's just, I get, we

00:37:14.140 were talking before the show about how, you know, when you see a design flaw, it's something

00:37:17.100 you, it gets you upset and you have to deal with it.

00:37:19.220 When I see the same thing in doctrine, I can't sit still.

00:37:22.760 When I see that flaw, I've got to address it.

00:37:24.960 And this is a, this is a tough subject.

00:37:27.720 And I want to bring up one more thing before we get into Genesis, because something Raven

00:37:32.200 said, like, like, we seem to be heading towards a very odd time.

00:37:36.360 I mean, I've been hearing about 2025 as being some type of pivotal year for honestly, almost

00:37:42.740 30 years.

00:37:43.900 I first heard it in the nineties and I said, okay, whatever, 2025, that's, that's a long

00:37:48.480 time away.

00:37:48.780 I'm going to be an old guy then, which I am now.

00:37:51.720 So I didn't really think about it, but the truth is here we are.

00:37:54.660 And, um, I was listening to a podcast about from these two weird looking, it's like man

00:38:01.000 and man and wife who were like, apparently they have a connection to the plate, the aliens

00:38:06.000 of the play eighties and they channel them and they give, they get messages from them.

00:38:10.180 And I was just morbidly curious because I, I don't know why.

00:38:14.920 Oh shoot.

00:38:15.820 I don't remember.

00:38:16.540 Um, I, if I can look it up, um, cause it's probably in my YouTube feed, but they call these

00:38:23.240 play eighties.

00:38:23.760 They talk to, um, Oh God, I now I've got to look it up, but I'll keep talking a lot while

00:38:29.140 I'm looking it up.

00:38:29.800 Anyway, they were saying that, you know, March 21st is when the Kali Yuga ends and you know,

00:38:36.400 they're expecting this major week dog.

00:38:39.280 What are we, what are you talking about?

00:38:41.740 And then we talk about that a lot.

00:38:45.140 Like that, that kind of does track because the Kali Yuga ends by fire and, and, uh, and

00:38:49.760 God isn't going to destroy the world with water again, right?

00:38:52.520 It's, it's going to be fire.

00:38:53.560 And also there's this idea that, um, within the Zachariah Sitchin school of thought, I

00:38:58.000 believe that, uh, this, you know, Nibiru was going to enter our, our general vicinity.

00:39:03.940 It's going to throw our magnetic poles out of whack and it's going to end in like fiery

00:39:09.180 cataclysm.

00:39:09.900 So there's like a lot of stuff that points to this idea of like, yeah, the Kali Yuga

00:39:13.900 ending and what have you, I think it's a bad definition of what's going on, but it's one

00:39:19.200 that was given to them by the fallen.

00:39:20.620 Well, I have to, I, I tried to look it up.

00:39:22.360 I forgot.

00:39:22.580 I think I just e-braced it for my watch history because I didn't want to pollute in my phone.

00:39:26.000 But this man, and it always like just these weird looking people.

00:39:29.040 I'm like, you know what?

00:39:29.560 If I saw you on the street, I would run the other way.

00:39:31.200 You just look like there's something off with you.

00:39:33.820 This guy had like the biggest forehead I ever saw in my life.

00:39:35.820 It's like, you could like show a movie on it.

00:39:38.460 And, and, you know, when they were, and they channeled these, these Pleiadians who gave this

00:39:43.380 message and I want to hear it because every time I hear a message from these so-called aliens,

00:39:46.860 it's always the same message.

00:39:48.300 It's always like the truth sandwiched into lie, into a lie.

00:39:51.540 And, you know, and so she channeled this thing live and allegedly, and it was telling her,

00:39:58.160 yeah, there's, you know, it's Kaliuk is about to end and you just have to be about love and

00:40:03.240 peace.

00:40:04.240 And, and then she, then they said, well, you know, there's some people who are ready for

00:40:07.420 this shift and some people are not.

00:40:09.860 The people who are not, well, they may like disappear someplace and go to another planet.

00:40:14.360 Like, huh, that sounds like the rupture.

00:40:17.600 Interesting.

00:40:18.320 By the way, Ed, there was, I'm sorry.

00:40:21.200 There's a Tik TOK video I saw just the other day where a guy is complaining basically of

00:40:26.420 having like waking or walking sleep paralysis.

00:40:29.560 He's on Tik TOK.

00:40:30.640 This is, this phenomenon is becoming more widespread and he essentially locks up, becomes paralyzed,

00:40:35.740 but he's standing in his kitchen and his head cocks back.

00:40:38.120 So he looks at the ceiling and long story short, he's transported.

00:40:41.080 His consciousness is transported to some sort of like boardroom meeting.

00:40:44.160 He can't see cause he's too busy looking at the ceiling.

00:40:46.280 He can't control his body.

00:40:48.040 But, uh, he says, I don't know.

00:40:49.740 It was like some sort of council, which we keep hearing.

00:40:51.960 There's a galactic federation.

00:40:53.000 There's a council of nine.

00:40:53.920 There's a body of entities that are, they have a vested interest in our ascension.

00:40:57.960 And, um.

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00:41:59.040 And then these things, the conversation that he's overhearing is like, yeah, people are waking up.

00:42:03.220 They're waking up in masses now.

00:42:05.200 And the time is going to be soon.

00:42:06.680 And this one in particular is very strong.

00:42:08.640 They always do that, by the way.

00:42:09.780 They, like, butter you up and tell you you're special.

00:42:11.900 Yeah, of course.

00:42:12.500 They love doing that, the Pleiadians or what the hell ever.

00:42:14.920 It was Grok 3, by the way.

00:42:16.500 Obviously, it was your special.

00:42:17.240 Oh, yes.

00:42:17.880 We were talking about that.

00:42:18.700 Grok treats me like I am so much smarter than I am.

00:42:21.160 I'm like, Grok, I am acutely aware that I'm a retard.

00:42:23.240 Don't butter me up.

00:42:24.240 But I see it a lot.

00:42:25.940 There is that notion of ascension.

00:42:27.320 There's this idea that people are waking up and that, you know, something's going to happen.

00:42:31.080 So, yeah, it's a lot.

00:42:33.080 Yeah, I thought that was just really interesting that they said that they're, like, preparing people.

00:42:35.980 Well, yeah, there'll be some people who aren't ready for it.

00:42:37.520 They'll just be taken away to another planet.

00:42:39.100 But don't worry.

00:42:39.600 They'll be fine.

00:42:41.280 Those of us who are in light, who are the special ones, then, you know, we'll get the special enlightenment that's coming.

00:42:47.080 That's funny because if the rapture is going to happen, then, yeah, that'll be the explanation.

00:42:51.380 Not that Jesus Christ spared people, you know, certain people who were chosen or what have you, but that they just weren't ready yet.

00:42:57.780 So, they're going to, like, a little bit.

00:42:59.200 They need, like, an after-school program.

00:43:01.260 They're going on the short bus to remedial training.

00:43:06.320 So, yeah.

00:43:06.700 Like, they were retards.

00:43:07.520 Don't worry about them.

00:43:08.860 Yeah, exactly.

00:43:09.380 I find it very interesting.

00:43:10.380 All right.

00:43:10.860 So, yeah, there we are.

00:43:13.300 All right.

00:43:13.780 And now we're going to get into the Book of Revelation.

00:43:15.520 I mean, the Book of Genesis.

00:43:16.820 Yeah, sure.

00:43:17.820 Why not?

00:43:19.240 So, where did we leave off last time?

00:43:21.040 I think we were talking about angelic civilizations last time.

00:43:25.600 There are the angels, what we call angels, the Elohim, were the first intelligent life that God created.

00:43:32.440 And he created them like the only reason you would make any life, to interact with it.

00:43:37.380 And they were the first ones to occupy the heavens and the earth, the spiritual realm and the physical realm.

00:43:42.380 They were both created in Genesis 1-1.

00:43:44.920 And we talked about some of the different types of angels.

00:43:48.780 You have the cherubim.

00:43:50.040 You have the seraphim.

00:43:51.060 You have the watchers.

00:43:52.580 You have the archangels.

00:43:53.740 We went over all that.

00:43:55.720 But then I think where we left off was the idea that there was some type of primordial rebellion because we see the results of it in Genesis 1-2.

00:44:05.680 Where it says, in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth, verse 2, and the earth was chaotic and desolate.

00:44:14.220 And we know that God did not create the world that way.

00:44:18.120 We can just look at metaphysics and the fact that you cannot create chaos.

00:44:22.580 That's an oxymoron.

00:44:24.020 Chaos is the measurement of the lack of order.

00:44:25.900 So, order has to exist first before there can be chaos.

00:44:28.220 And we also know it biblically because in the book of Isaiah, where it says that when God created the world, when he formed it in the water and out of the water, he formed it to be inhabited.

00:44:44.140 He made it not in vain.

00:44:45.840 And that word for vain is the same word that we see here, tohu vabohu in Hebrew.

00:44:51.520 So, it says blatantly that God did not create the world chaotic.

00:44:54.640 Because there's some folks who will tell you who will, we're going to talk about the gap theory.

00:44:58.720 And there's a controversy around that.

00:45:00.080 And there are two sides.

00:45:00.860 And the gap theory is basically the idea that there is a gap of time between Genesis 1-1 and Genesis 1-2.

00:45:06.140 I believe that as well.

00:45:07.400 But then there are diversions of the gap theory that we'll talk about.

00:45:10.640 But people who don't believe that there was a gap, that these verses just go sequentially without any period of time between them, believe that God just made the world chaotic.

00:45:20.000 He just sped out a bunch of matter.

00:45:22.180 Then he started shaping it.

00:45:23.260 Just the same way a sculptor will get just a random stone, this piece of marble.

00:45:29.780 Then he'll carve something out of it.

00:45:32.000 He'll carve a statue out of it.

00:45:33.180 So, he takes that chaotic slab of marble and brings order to it by slowly chiseling it away.

00:45:40.040 Or like a painter just starts with like, you've probably seen where someone can just throw a bunch of paint onto a canvas in different colors.

00:45:47.060 Then they'll just start doing some things with it and make it beautiful.

00:45:50.660 But again, that's not what God did.

00:45:53.700 Not only because, you know, there is no, there has to be order before that.

00:45:57.040 There has to be an order of thought.

00:45:58.300 There has to be an order.

00:45:58.900 Someone had to make the marble.

00:46:01.320 Someone had to create the paint.

00:46:03.500 So, God did not create a chaotic.

00:46:05.340 It became chaotic.

00:46:06.520 In fact, when you look at the word in Hebrew, that word for was, can be easily translated, became.

00:46:13.000 So, the earth became chaotic and desolate.

00:46:17.540 Why?

00:46:18.080 Well, something had to happen for that.

00:46:20.740 So, something bad, obviously.

00:46:23.280 So, that leads us to the idea of an angelic rebellion.

00:46:25.900 And if you keep reading Genesis 1-2, where it says, if you want, don't I bring it up again, Top?

00:46:31.200 I just want to show this.

00:46:31.980 There's a couple of words here.

00:46:33.400 And I go over this in, I think it's like the third episode of the Genesis series, which is up on Faith by Reason and on YouTube.

00:46:40.700 It says, okay, with that form of word, and darkness was on the face of the deep.

00:46:45.940 That word deep is the word teom.

00:46:49.080 Okay?

00:46:50.540 Stay with that.

00:46:51.240 Then, the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

00:46:53.780 The word for waters is mayim.

00:46:55.660 Mayim means chaos.

00:46:57.700 So, the Spirit of God was moving, was hovering over the face of some chaos.

00:47:00.600 But let's go back up.

00:47:01.820 Darkness was on the face of the deep.

00:47:04.140 The deep, the word teom in Sumerian is the word tiamat.

00:47:08.840 Tiamat, Tiamat in Sumerian, is a seven-headed dragon.

00:47:14.480 So, and the Hebrew equivalent of Tiamat is Leviathan.

00:47:19.860 So, what I believe this is actually saying is that there was darkness was put upon the face or upon this dragon beast.

00:47:30.360 And this is a spiritual entity.

00:47:31.820 We talked about it last week that there are a class of angelic beings that are reptilian,

00:47:37.760 that are fiery serpents.

00:47:41.080 This appears to be one of them.

00:47:42.840 And this appears to be the main rebel.

00:47:46.060 You know, there you go.

00:47:46.620 If you ever played the old Dungeons and Dragons game, like the main, I think the biggest villain or whatever,

00:47:51.300 the biggest monster is Tiamat.

00:47:53.120 It's a Sumerian seven-headed dragon.

00:47:54.960 And we see that in the Bible.

00:47:56.280 We see him, this seven-headed dragon also in Revelation, which leads some people to believe this is Satan.

00:48:03.000 I don't, and I'll tell you why in a bit.

00:48:05.660 But, so it says that darkness was on the face of the deep.

00:48:08.580 So, where did the darkness come from?

00:48:10.700 Darkness is a measurement of the absence of light.

00:48:13.220 God is light.

00:48:13.920 There's no darkness in him at all.

00:48:15.280 So, the original creation was full of light.

00:48:17.640 This darkness means that light was withdrawn by God.

00:48:22.900 This is a punishment.

00:48:24.480 This is God taking away his light.

00:48:26.960 And now he's basically, and so you have the darkness was on the face of the deep.

00:48:32.680 And the spirit of God, the Ruach Elohim, was moving, hovering over the face of the water.

00:48:37.760 So, what you have here is this idea of the spirit of God standing over this dragon.

00:48:45.000 Basically, God just kicked his ass.

00:48:47.900 He just won this fight, which, of course, he would.

00:48:51.480 So, this is a, he's in a position of victory over this creature.

00:48:56.460 I kind of like that.

00:48:57.400 That's, you ever see, like, a film that opens up?

00:49:01.040 I'm not saying this is the exact same thing, but a movie will open up with, like, sort of some aspect of the climax, right?

00:49:07.660 Like, somebody being defeated or something.

00:49:09.460 And then it'll start from the beginning and go over there.

00:49:11.920 In some ways, it, like, I'm like, that's a great opening to this story, is God kicking the shit out of this entity.

00:49:19.860 And then we go from there.

00:49:21.040 That's a good way to catch your attention, too.

00:49:23.860 The greatest story ever told, right?

00:49:25.220 That's what I was going to say.

00:49:26.020 Yeah, God is literally the greatest storyteller.

00:49:28.860 Well, yeah.

00:49:29.200 Well, I mean, the Bible is way more interesting than we give it credit for.

00:49:32.180 Because if you, and in the Q&A that's going to be out today for Patreons,

00:49:37.660 we talk about versions of the Bible, because I get that question all the time.

00:49:41.380 Which version of the Bible should we use?

00:49:43.060 And I get my answer to that.

00:49:44.160 One of the things I say early on is, you know, the Bible, if you have their translations,

00:49:47.880 they're translating the original Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic into English.

00:49:51.540 And the translators, for the most part, did the best they could.

00:49:53.960 They do it generally a good job.

00:49:55.760 But a lot of times, their translation is informed by their interpretation.

00:49:59.760 So if your interpretation is that, you know, this is just this, that, you know, God just

00:50:06.420 made the world and it was dark and he made light.

00:50:08.420 Well, you're going to look at all the different possible translations of the word deep and

00:50:13.660 say, well, you know, there is a translation that makes us a dragon, but that doesn't sound

00:50:16.840 right.

00:50:17.020 I'm just going to say deep or something like that.

00:50:20.520 So that's why it's so important to have an interlinear Bible where you can look at all

00:50:23.960 everything this word could mean and then look at the context and say what's happening

00:50:28.000 here.

00:50:28.760 And if the context is there was some type of rebellion that caused this, then you need

00:50:33.300 to look at, okay, what word here matches what might have happened during a rebellion.

00:50:38.280 And if you also know that there are, and if one of the words is a dragon-like being, and

00:50:43.520 you know that there is a class of angelic beings that are basically giant serpents, then

00:50:49.340 well, there you go.

00:50:50.780 So do you think, do you think that this, this fall of angels is the, the one that we see at

00:50:55.700 Mount Hermon or were there specific?

00:50:57.100 Because I know that there is a secondary fall of angels.

00:51:00.440 Is this a third or?

00:51:02.400 I think there are multiple falls.

00:51:04.820 I don't think that there's, because we tend to look at the ones that are vivid and just

00:51:09.640 think those are the only ones.

00:51:10.740 Like, for example, like, like Mount Hermon, which you just talked about, or like in Revelation

00:51:14.660 chapter 12, where it says that, you know, the dragon took a third of the stars with his

00:51:19.560 tail and threw them down to earth.

00:51:21.320 That doesn't mean those are the only two.

00:51:22.500 I think we can, I don't think that these beings only fell once.

00:51:25.960 I think that at various times they can fall.

00:51:28.660 An angel could fall.

00:51:29.760 No, it's like decide, you know what?

00:51:31.000 Yeah, I don't like what's going on here.

00:51:32.500 I think I'm, I don't know why they would, but they seem to happen at different points.

00:51:37.060 And that's why I don't believe that this Leviathan is the one we call the devil and Satan,

00:51:42.980 because I don't think he falls until Genesis chapter three, because again, he was in Eden,

00:51:48.420 the garden of God.

00:51:49.420 God was in Eden.

00:51:50.800 Evil cannot be in the presence of God, which means that before he fell, he, when he was

00:51:56.440 in the garden, he was a good guy.

00:51:57.860 He says it very blatantly in Ezekiel 28, you were in Eden, the garden of God.

00:52:03.560 Eden isn't created until after this rebellion.

00:52:05.980 So this Leviathan was the first rebel.

00:52:09.260 And we see Leviathan again in the book of Isaiah where, and God talks about how he's

00:52:12.920 going to keep punishing Leviathan and he's locked under the sea.

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00:53:16.860 In the book of Job, when God is giving a rhetorical response to Job, he says, can you draw Leviathan

00:53:24.040 with a hook?

00:53:25.340 You know, I'm greater than you.

00:53:26.300 I mean, I kicked Leviathan's ass.

00:53:27.540 You can't even fish for him is essentially what he's saying.

00:53:31.160 So at this point, at the point of the book of Job, which is, you know, he's contemporary

00:53:35.300 with, with, with Abraham.

00:53:38.340 Leviathan's already locked under the sea.

00:53:40.760 God's already punished him and he's punished him to be in the sea and the seas are chaotic.

00:53:44.360 Um, and, and there's also a, an idea of possibility that, um, Jonah was swallowed by Leviathan.

00:53:54.180 That's a whole other thing, but very provocative that that was the sea creature that swallowed

00:53:58.120 him and then spat him, then bomb him and ran back up before he, he went to Nineveh.

00:54:01.320 So the point is you have this original rebellion.

00:54:05.140 What caused the rebellion?

00:54:06.700 Again, we, we don't see that in this verse.

00:54:08.940 We have to infer that from other things we see.

00:54:11.500 So what caused the rebellion in general?

00:54:12.960 What is the origin of sin?

00:54:14.540 The origin of sin is pursuing something beyond what God allotted you.

00:54:21.060 What was the sin of Adam and Eve?

00:54:22.460 They wanted to be like the Elohim.

00:54:24.300 That's not what God made them for.

00:54:26.500 He made them to be the rulers of the earth.

00:54:28.980 He did not make them to be the Elohim.

00:54:31.360 But Eve said, Hey, if I eat this fruit, I will be like the Elohim.

00:54:34.440 I want to be beyond what God wanted for me.

00:54:36.480 And that's what the sin was.

00:54:38.400 You know, why did the fallen angels, what, what was their sin in Genesis chapter six with

00:54:42.320 the Nephilim?

00:54:42.960 They want it be something beyond what God allotted for them.

00:54:46.060 They want it more.

00:54:46.820 They want it to improve on God's plan.

00:54:48.840 They want it to make their own spiritual physical hybrids, the Nephilim, but they felt were

00:54:53.440 greater than humans.

00:54:55.100 So if we take that back to why would this rebellion have occurred?

00:54:59.380 Apparently this Leviathan and obviously other angelic beings fell as well because there

00:55:06.580 was, you know, a war that causes desolation.

00:55:09.220 They must've wanted something beyond what God allotted them.

00:55:13.040 Not exactly, not entirely sure what that is, but they wanted something.

00:55:16.900 We can speculate what they might've wanted.

00:55:21.200 Maybe, maybe they wanted to create these.

00:55:23.700 Maybe they wanted to create some type of spiritual physical hybrids.

00:55:26.660 Maybe they wanted to create something and be more like God because that's my only, that's

00:55:32.620 the only thing I can really think of because if they, if the only things that existed were

00:55:36.080 God and the Elohim, maybe they said, well, we can, we can do what you did.

00:55:40.240 We can do something, you know, we can, we want something beyond what you've told us is our

00:55:45.620 position.

00:55:46.240 And obviously it didn't work out.

00:55:48.960 And then that's when you get into all of these various, you know, legends of the gods and

00:55:54.260 the wars of the gods that become corrupted over time, but, but end up in every culture.

00:56:00.120 You know, if you look at the Greek gods, there's this, there's the primordial rebellion where

00:56:04.280 you had, you know, Kronos and Gaia, these, you know, the old, old gods and Kronos kept

00:56:09.780 eating his kids, you know, Zeus and, and all those, you know, and then until someone cut

00:56:14.700 his belly open and they all popped out, but then, you know, then they would fight with

00:56:18.500 the Titans, but every one, and that's just one example, but every one of these ancient

00:56:22.620 cultures, these ancient religions all have a story of a primordial rebellion where the

00:56:27.140 gods fought each other and then humanity was created.

00:56:31.280 And of course you have it here in the Bible as well.

00:56:32.960 But as we said very early on, the purpose of, of Genesis was God telling Moses, here is

00:56:40.240 the truth for, for the Israelites so that they know the truth of what happened.

00:56:44.440 Even though they've heard all these legends that are corruptions of the original, of the

00:56:48.560 original flood story of the original creation mythology and in here of that original rebellion.

00:56:53.100 So this rebellion happened, it's in every culture, but God is telling you, this is how it really

00:56:58.620 happened.

00:56:59.840 And I'm the one who won it because it all, and all of those rebellions in with like the

00:57:05.680 chief God beating up the enemy and taking over, you know, Zeus would defeat Kronos.

00:57:11.080 You'd have, you know, Enki and Enlil, they did, you know, all of these different gods,

00:57:15.360 they always defeat the rebels, you know, with, with Ra, you know, Ra defeats, you know,

00:57:19.840 Toth or, or Typhon or whoever, you know, I'm not as, as up on the Egyptian mythology as I used to know

00:57:26.400 really well, but I, he defeats their serpent God and interestingly, and then Ra's the chief

00:57:31.620 God and then Osiris and then Horus and all that kind of stuff.

00:57:34.080 So the point is that they all have a similar story.

00:57:37.680 There's rebellion, the chief God beats his enemy, and then man is created.

00:57:43.440 And that's what we have.

00:57:43.960 Speaking of similar stories, this is actually pretty fascinating.

00:57:47.640 Chase in the comments here said the newest Aquaman movie was about being trapped underwater

00:57:52.640 slash ice, a being who's trapped underwater slash ice, who uses telepathic powers to trick

00:57:58.100 a human into freeing him.

00:58:00.720 Sounds like that beast of the sea.

00:58:02.360 And that we were just talking about the other day where in my son was watching a Ninja Turtles

00:58:07.240 movie.

00:58:07.720 I think I told you guys about this.

00:58:08.900 And the whole thing is like, there are things that are trapped in another dimension that are

00:58:14.700 communicating with Donnie, the guy who makes all the tech or the turtle who makes all the

00:58:18.180 tech and they're convincing him that they're trapped there and they need to be freed.

00:58:21.420 So he creates the tech to free them.

00:58:23.100 And then it turns out that they're like, you know, ancient adversarial entities that were

00:58:26.940 locked in there, imprisoned in there.

00:58:28.860 So that's pretty fascinating.

00:58:30.900 That theme seems to pop up again and again.

00:58:33.400 Yeah.

00:58:33.500 Well, I think they will.

00:58:34.200 They are going to be freed in Genesis, excuse me, Revelation chapter six, when the sixth seal

00:58:41.080 is open and they're all allowed to, they're either they're tossed out from the heavens

00:58:45.020 when the stars fall from heaven.

00:58:46.200 And then when the earthquake happens and releases the ones that are trapped under the earth.

00:58:49.700 And then you also have the ones that are trapped in river Euphrates who are released.

00:58:52.780 So they're all released later.

00:58:54.700 So the, the quote unquote old gods are coming back and you hear that a lot.

00:58:58.400 Yeah.

00:58:58.760 These esoteric, they're coming.

00:59:00.880 They're almost here because they know when it's close.

00:59:03.400 They may not know exactly when it's going to happen because no man knows the day of the

00:59:07.040 hour.

00:59:07.440 And by the way, that can I just put this out there?

00:59:10.760 When they said, when Jesus said, no man knows a day or the hour, he is not talking about

00:59:14.100 the rapture.

00:59:14.820 Everyone always associates that with the rapture.

00:59:16.560 And it really, and I don't know why, because Jesus in Matthew 24 is not talking about the

00:59:21.020 rapture.

00:59:21.500 He's talking about a second coming.

00:59:24.060 He says, no one knows the day of the hour of my coming, but that's not to say that you

00:59:29.100 can predict when the rapture is going to happen, but I'm saying you can't, I believe it's going

00:59:32.180 to be a mystery as well, but you can't use that verse to, to, to justify because Jesus is,

00:59:37.220 it's not a rapture verse.

00:59:38.120 It's a, the disciples asking, when is your coming going to happen?

00:59:41.340 So, but, so the point is they don't know exactly when, but they know when it's close.

00:59:45.960 They can feel it.

00:59:47.340 They know that they, they know God's times and seasons.

00:59:50.480 Well, what do you think, uh, what do you think the time difference would be from him coming

00:59:53.360 versus a rapture?

00:59:56.140 Um, well, again, I believe in all three raptures.

00:59:58.100 So I believe that the first rapture of believing church will happen before the seven year period

01:00:03.660 of time called the tribulation and Jesus will return after the tribulation.

01:00:09.660 I think the reason no one knows a day or the hour, notice he doesn't say the year or

01:00:12.580 the month, because when the tribute, when they're marching to Armageddon, you know,

01:00:16.440 it's close, but the Jewish people have to pray.

01:00:18.740 They have to acknowledge whoever they are.

01:00:20.860 The Jews have to acknowledge, Hey, we screwed up.

01:00:23.500 We missed our, our savior.

01:00:25.680 And we have to acknowledge him.

01:00:27.860 And this says in the book of Hosea, three days later, he'll return.

01:00:30.920 So I don't think they'll know what exactly when the Jews are going to make that prayer.

01:00:35.480 And then, you know, the three days later, they don't, they don't know when that's going

01:00:38.600 to happen.

01:00:39.720 I have been, uh, being not bothered, but, um, you know, petitioned by some well-meaning

01:00:48.000 little seasoners, uh, who are trying to convince me that I am wasting my time talking about

01:00:54.200 different entities and deities and lowercase g gods, because, uh, we're just at a different

01:00:59.160 point in the timeline and that is all a deception and a distraction.

01:01:03.000 And, uh, it's very nice that somebody has it all figured out, but I don't have it all

01:01:07.200 figured out.

01:01:07.600 So I'll continue to fumble around in the dark.

01:01:09.260 But, um, to me, I just can't put that notion to bed because two reasons.

01:01:14.240 One is it's incredibly compelling.

01:01:15.920 And I think that it can win over a lot of, um, minds when it comes to like showing them

01:01:20.900 that picture of like, look, we're not saying these other religions didn't have real deities.

01:01:25.740 Those are real deities and here's what they are.

01:01:27.740 Uh, but the other thing is because people are having dreams and visions of being recruited

01:01:31.700 by these deities currently in real time in this day and age.

01:01:35.060 And, uh, I myself have seen entities and, and, and things of that nature.

01:01:38.580 So, uh, you know, I'll have to ask the little season community to forgive me and my foolishness.

01:01:44.600 Uh, I'm not willing to let this one go just because somebody else has it figured out.

01:01:48.520 Little seasoners.

01:01:49.320 And then like, like the dude with the salt.

01:01:51.260 I just really liked that whole, uh, they mean well, but they're very, they're very concerned.

01:01:56.140 And I'm flattered that you would be concerned about the direction that my, my show is going

01:02:00.580 in, but I simply can't let that one go, uh, anytime soon.

01:02:04.660 And, you know, but you guys know where I stand on the little season.

01:02:07.660 I've done many shows on it.

01:02:09.020 In fact, I, I, I, I'm going to be on the, um, on tinfoil head at some point in the future.

01:02:12.880 We're still, we're getting the date, um, there where I, um, I'm going to be going on after

01:02:17.660 this one guy, Paul Stobbs, I believe.

01:02:20.100 Paul Stobbs.

01:02:20.340 I love Paul Stobbs.

01:02:21.180 He does a show called understanding conspiracy.

01:02:23.220 He's the little season guy.

01:02:24.680 You should, and he's great.

01:02:25.960 He's a, if you're going to, if you're going on after him, I suggest that you look at all

01:02:29.900 of his stuff because you'll have the opportunity to rebut him point by point.

01:02:33.940 He has like a plethora of work on it.

01:02:35.840 So.

01:02:36.340 Yeah.

01:02:36.700 I listened to one of his, I've listened to a couple of his podcasts and I hear stuff.

01:02:40.480 I'm like, yeah, you're still, I mean, I don't want to make this a little season show.

01:02:45.460 So I want, I'll just, I'll, I'll just say that I I've heard his evidence and he'll, and

01:02:49.580 the problem that I have in the big picture with the folks who try to justify the little

01:02:52.760 season and that these things have already happened, that all the tribulations already

01:02:56.180 happened, the Jesus already came back and they'll say, well, you know, there's all these

01:02:59.480 evidence of cataclysms that have happened.

01:03:01.940 There's, we have, we see buildings being melted and all this kind of stuff.

01:03:05.000 Great.

01:03:05.720 I will acquiesce that cataclysms have happened.

01:03:09.200 We can hop on a plane right now and go to Japan and visit Hiroshima and we can see melted

01:03:13.400 buildings.

01:03:14.520 It's not the, it's not whether or not things have cataclysms have happened.

01:03:18.220 Do they match the Bible?

01:03:21.520 Prophecy is not vague.

01:03:23.820 God's prophecies are precise.

01:03:25.760 They happen exactly the way God says they're going to happen.

01:03:29.480 And exactly when he says they're going to happen.

01:03:31.840 They don't, they are not, prophecy is not analog.

01:03:34.880 It's digital.

01:03:35.520 It is precise.

01:03:36.360 So you can't say, well, this kind of looks like what God says.

01:03:39.060 So it must know it's exactly like it.

01:03:41.360 God, if God said that at the end of the tribulation, every mountain and island is going to

01:03:48.100 disappear, then know what that means.

01:03:50.680 Every mountain and island is going to disappear.

01:03:52.840 So if there are still mountains and islands, then it hasn't happened yet.

01:03:56.740 And if you want to take that, well, you know, there was a great shaking and there were these

01:03:59.420 earthquakes.

01:03:59.920 Great.

01:04:00.520 Are there still mountains?

01:04:01.480 That's not, that's not from God.

01:04:03.340 There are melted buildings.

01:04:04.120 Great.

01:04:04.300 Did God say he was going to melt buildings?

01:04:05.440 It has to be, it has to be, everything has to align.

01:04:09.920 It can't just be some stuff.

01:04:11.580 And you can't say, well, you know, I heard this.

01:04:13.120 There was a rumor in 70 AD where people saw chariots of fire.

01:04:17.760 Great.

01:04:18.320 Where's Jesus?

01:04:22.600 Well, you know, Jesus came and he left.

01:04:24.560 Where does the Bible say he left?

01:04:26.120 I can show you what the Bible says.

01:04:27.200 It's an everlasting kingdom.

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01:05:29.020 Well, it's only a thousand years.

01:05:30.700 No, the Bible does not say his kingdom is only a thousand years.

01:05:33.340 It says that Satan is locked up for a thousand years.

01:05:35.740 That thousand years is framed by Satan's being Satan's imprisonment.

01:05:40.020 It is not frame the rule of Jesus.

01:05:43.180 It doesn't.

01:05:44.500 So the thousand years is not Jesus only ruling a thousand years.

01:05:46.760 No, Satan's only locked up for a thousand years and then he's released.

01:05:50.360 Well, get ready because nothing against the content creators who are exploring the idea.

01:05:57.060 I mean, that's what we're here for in very many ways is to explore these things and try

01:06:00.540 to hash out what the truth is.

01:06:01.760 But for whatever reason, the fan base, the little seasoners themselves, they get very comfortable

01:06:07.520 saying, if you are even on the fence about this idea, you are some sort of a shill.

01:06:12.600 Uh, and it's like, you know, you get those accusations from everybody.

01:06:16.880 It's not just little seasoners.

01:06:18.020 I get yelled at daily, daily.

01:06:20.080 Dude, it's so, yeah.

01:06:21.080 And I have a lot of patience for people, probably a lot more than, than top does.

01:06:24.760 And I try to engage with them and, and they're just like very feverish and more or less the

01:06:31.140 message here is, uh, you are wasting your time looking at other things.

01:06:34.720 In fact, you are leading people astray.

01:06:36.620 And so by that token, you're a piece of shit.

01:06:39.160 And, uh, unless you talk about this thing that I a hundred percent believe and know

01:06:43.120 to be true and you should too.

01:06:44.460 And it's like, I don't know much of anything.

01:06:46.060 I know that I'm retarded, but that aside, um, I think you would find that, uh, that,

01:06:52.040 that in particular topic is, is one thing that's going to, you know, be a conjoinder

01:06:56.020 between you and Paul Stobbs.

01:06:57.300 You remove that topic, you would find Paul Stobbs fascinating.

01:07:00.440 He's a great researcher and a awesome content creator.

01:07:04.160 It's nothing personal.

01:07:05.140 I don't dislike anyone.

01:07:06.580 No, no, it's just the battle of ideas, right?

01:07:08.300 I mean, my issue is that I just, if you, if you get this doctrine wrong, then you're

01:07:14.120 not watching for the right thing and you could be deceived.

01:07:17.340 That's my, I don't want to just like shout people down if they're, if they believe in

01:07:21.380 the little season, I want to say, are you, I don't want you to miss out on, on this,

01:07:25.480 because if you think Jesus already came and left a thousand years ago, then you aren't

01:07:29.680 looking for him.

01:07:30.760 You think he's gone.

01:07:32.020 So someone else comes along and says the wrong thing.

01:07:35.340 Like, okay, well, you know, Jesus isn't, you know, I, since Jesus left before, whatever

01:07:40.420 happens, if I see a second coming or I see a rapture or something, well, that can't be

01:07:43.860 Jesus.

01:07:44.120 Cause that, that stuff already happened.

01:07:45.960 That could be a problem.

01:07:47.300 And you know, when, and I got into, I got into a bit of a scuff with someone who says,

01:07:51.100 yeah, you're controlled opposition.

01:07:53.160 He said, well, you know what?

01:07:54.080 Then basically you're controlled opposition for the Jesuits because you know, the Jesuits

01:07:57.120 invented preterism and they invented it specifically to counter Christian eschatology because, you

01:08:04.100 know, the, the, the reformers were accusing the Pope of being the antichrist.

01:08:08.620 So Luis de Alcazar invented preterism to say, well, you know, if Jesus came back in 70 AD,

01:08:14.480 that means the antichrist was in 70 AD, which means our Pope can't be the antichrist.

01:08:18.280 That was the whole reason preterism was created.

01:08:20.360 And preterism is the basis for the little season.

01:08:22.880 So, so you're an agent for the, you're an agent for the Jesuits.

01:08:26.380 Oh, that, that, that didn't sit well.

01:08:28.160 Anyway.

01:08:28.480 Yeah.

01:08:29.020 Yeah.

01:08:30.120 I mean, you know, it just, uh, it's the nature of, of having a platform and trying to, uh,

01:08:35.700 disseminate these ideas.

01:08:36.580 We started the show talking about, you know, top is like, is it mean to, to, to push back

01:08:40.960 against these narratives and such?

01:08:42.060 And it's like, we're in the game.

01:08:43.520 We're all in the game.

01:08:44.600 I would hope to try to figure out what the truth is.

01:08:47.600 And if we all continue in that path, it's going to lead us to the same conclusion.

01:08:50.360 If we're really scrutinizing it and making sure that we're doing our due diligence.

01:08:54.140 Um, so in that way, you know, I have a lot of, uh, empathy and sympathy and I don't have

01:08:58.140 the information to even combat it.

01:08:59.840 This is all a learning experience for me too, which is why I have to admit, it's a little

01:09:04.180 frustrating when they come to me and they say, why don't you talk about this?

01:09:07.020 And I want to say, pick another retard because this one is too busy right now.

01:09:11.120 Looking at all the things that I'm looking at.

01:09:13.060 I simply don't have the time resources or the information that you allege to have.

01:09:17.280 It's not in my repertoire.

01:09:18.740 I don't have that right now.

01:09:19.920 So find yourself, uh, another retard.

01:09:22.940 Yeah.

01:09:23.300 Yeah.

01:09:23.500 Well, I just, just show me evidence.

01:09:25.320 I mean, show me some actual evidence for it.

01:09:27.720 Not speculation, not, I want it to be true.

01:09:30.380 So I'm going to wedge it in here.

01:09:31.340 Anyway, that's, this will be a, the show will go even more off the rails.

01:09:35.980 All right.

01:09:36.300 All right.

01:09:36.540 Let's go back to Genesis.

01:09:37.720 All right.

01:09:38.280 So, um, so basically we have this primordial rebellion.

01:09:42.240 We have Leviathan taken down and then we see something very interesting.

01:09:45.780 It says that, you know, the spirit of God, the rock Elohim was hovering over the face of

01:09:51.280 the waters, the face of the, of the Mayim of the chaos.

01:09:54.400 And this, this equates chaos with the waters.

01:09:57.840 There was a flood.

01:09:58.900 So God, this is the first flood God flooded the world.

01:10:03.240 We'd also, we know he has to, um, fix that because when we get to the actual days of recreation

01:10:08.680 on the second day, he has to separate the waters so that dry land can appear.

01:10:12.780 So, so if, if he has, so if there's no dry land, that means he flooded the earth the first

01:10:17.320 time and the, and, and Mayim chaos is indicative of the seas of the oceans.

01:10:22.560 And that's, you know, that's really a part of, of, of, of, of legends throughout history.

01:10:27.820 That's the oceans are always considered a place of chaos.

01:10:30.360 You know, if you've seen the old maps where it says, there'd be dragons in certain parts

01:10:34.400 of the, oh, well, there'd be dragons.

01:10:36.680 Why Leviathan is trapped under the waters.

01:10:40.780 So, so he's over the face of the chaos and it's up of the chaos.

01:10:44.180 And it says, he's moving.

01:10:45.500 That word could also mean brooding.

01:10:47.720 So the spirit of God was brooding.

01:10:49.880 He was sad.

01:10:50.400 That's what's funny.

01:10:51.740 Sorry.

01:10:52.940 I was like, you know, what's funny about the little season?

01:10:57.700 Back to the Jews.

01:10:58.840 No, I watched Moana too, again, for like the fifth time, because my kids just love it.

01:11:05.440 But there's a part, a spoiler alert, where they reach the storm God, Nalo.

01:11:11.040 And well, before they reach him, he has like these, these serpents protecting him.

01:11:16.540 And the serpents are coming out and they're, they're fighting them off.

01:11:20.700 And they have like, it's, it's a whole scene, but they go away because the sunlight starts

01:11:26.040 to come up.

01:11:27.300 Once the sun shows itself and there's light, they flee back under the waters.

01:11:31.360 And I'm just like, Moana just nails it so many times with this esoteric occult knowledge

01:11:38.060 that they're all unfortunately spreading it on my children.

01:11:41.240 But man, they're doing a great job of indoctrinating these kids.

01:11:45.240 Oh yeah.

01:11:45.960 The best lies are sandwiched between the truth.

01:11:49.540 Yeah.

01:11:50.100 It has to be the truth, right?

01:11:51.160 You have this, this dragon and then God is, God is the light.

01:11:55.340 And then they have to go, they have to go away.

01:11:57.640 It's like, man, just, you got it.

01:12:00.640 You got the idea.

01:12:01.820 It goes all the way to these, these, you know, the UFO phenomenon and then coming in

01:12:06.120 and out of the oceans as well.

01:12:07.700 Yeah.

01:12:07.840 Right.

01:12:08.160 And again, like I was, like I was saying that when I was watching that video of the,

01:12:11.300 of the two weirdos channeling these gossip, these aliens from Pleiades, they're like,

01:12:15.400 oh, it's just all about love and kindness.

01:12:17.140 I'm like, okay, sounds good.

01:12:19.400 But then you throw in people disappearing.

01:12:21.720 Then you throw in, you know, these Kali Yugas and all that kind of stuff.

01:12:24.780 So yeah, you, you make it sound good.

01:12:26.280 And then you just throw in, it's like, you know, you have a clean glass of water.

01:12:29.240 You put it in one drop of ink.

01:12:30.660 It's like, all you need is to pollute all the water.

01:12:33.340 You can have all kinds of truth.

01:12:34.440 Just one little dot of untruth will ruin it all.

01:12:38.480 And that's, that's, that's the slippery slope.

01:12:40.280 It's the, I think, um, um, CS Lewis in his book, uh, Screwtape Letters, which is a really

01:12:45.600 fun read.

01:12:46.500 He, he, you know, he's, he's basically talking about how it's the story of these two demons,

01:12:51.760 like a senior demon and a junior demon who, and the senior demon is giving advice to the

01:12:56.960 junior demon and the junior demon, it's like, he wants to go all in and just, Hey, I'm just

01:13:00.260 going to corrupt this guy.

01:13:00.900 It's like, no, no, no, no, don't go hardcore.

01:13:02.920 Just the, it's the gradual slope that gets them.

01:13:06.300 Don't, you know, it's like, no, the frog in the, in the, in the, in the water, you know,

01:13:09.360 you just turn it up a little bit, just heat it up a little bit.

01:13:12.320 Don't, don't put them in boiling water.

01:13:13.680 He'll jump right out, just slowly heat it up.

01:13:16.000 Just that gradual thing.

01:13:16.960 So just one little drop of falsehood in that truth.

01:13:19.700 And that, that'll get you there where you need to eventually where you need to go.

01:13:23.500 So, all right.

01:13:24.500 So spirit of God is brooding over the face of the waters of the, of the chaos.

01:13:28.460 He said, so he's in this contemplative mode.

01:13:32.540 Cause he's like, okay, what happened?

01:13:34.180 Why is he sad?

01:13:34.780 Because, well, he creates these beings, makes these beautiful world for them and they mess

01:13:40.740 up.

01:13:41.000 He's okay.

01:13:41.420 What do I do now?

01:13:43.180 So this is where I want to talk about the idea of the Trinity, because if we're, if we're

01:13:47.340 at the basis, the concept of God, let's talk about the, the, the triune nature of God.

01:13:51.700 Cause that's also controversial.

01:13:52.700 So there are many people who don't believe in that or they have divergent beliefs about

01:13:55.940 it, that either there is no such thing as a Trinity or that, you know, that the spirit

01:14:01.460 of God is just, you know, an acronym for it, not an acronym, but just an, just an aspect

01:14:06.560 of God.

01:14:07.180 When you, like you say, you know, I'm doing, I feel this in my spirit.

01:14:09.500 You're not saying you have a separate independent spirit.

01:14:11.840 You just, you're talking about yourself or that Jesus was just a created being and he's

01:14:16.160 not God.

01:14:16.760 So to understand how Trinity makes sense, they'll say, how can three be one?

01:14:22.940 How can you say there's only one, there's one God and he's in three?

01:14:26.080 Well, what is the definition of God?

01:14:27.660 The definition of, of God is that God is always and completely right and just.

01:14:32.660 That's the nature of God.

01:14:34.560 So the nature, so if you are always and completely right and just, then you have the nature of

01:14:38.880 God, you can be one, you can be holy.

01:14:43.200 Why?

01:14:43.400 Because what's the definition?

01:14:44.260 This is why definitions are important.

01:14:45.640 The top, you said that earlier about when we were on the whole Jewish thing, definitions

01:14:50.260 are important because your definitions allow you to have intelligent conversations with

01:14:55.960 people and they're good for your mental health.

01:14:57.520 So the definition of holy is of one kind.

01:15:00.420 So when you say God is holy, you're saying, yes, he's of one kind.

01:15:03.080 He's always a completely right and just, but that, but that means that anyone who is always

01:15:08.020 a completely right and just is of that one kind.

01:15:11.480 And the reason that we know that there are three in the, in the Bible is because all three

01:15:16.460 are given credit for creation.

01:15:18.980 The spirit of God is given credit for creation here in Genesis chapter one.

01:15:23.740 God, the father is given credit for creation in the book of Job, in Job 40 and 41.

01:15:28.520 Jesus, the son, the word of God is given credit for creation in the epistle, the book of

01:15:34.560 John chapter one, and also in Colossians in the, in the beginning was the word.

01:15:38.800 The word was with God.

01:15:39.660 The word was God.

01:15:40.560 All things were made by him.

01:15:42.060 The word was with God and was God.

01:15:45.080 That's telling you right there.

01:15:46.760 It's a, he's a separate entity, but he's also God.

01:15:50.100 Well, can I, God is a title.

01:15:52.340 Can I ask you something?

01:15:54.820 There's a book called, he came to set the captives free.

01:15:57.860 And maybe, I don't know, like halfway, more than halfway through the book, this lady writes

01:16:03.800 a chart and I wish I had, had it next to me.

01:16:06.540 She writes a chart about the spirit, the soul and the body.

01:16:10.900 Okay.

01:16:11.380 And she's talking about spiritual warfare.

01:16:13.160 It's in the second half of the book, David.

01:16:14.540 It's like a two pit.

01:16:15.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:16:16.320 Well, let me see if we could.

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01:17:18.600 So are there three, there are two parts here.

01:17:20.680 There's three parts, right?

01:17:22.840 Right.

01:17:23.380 So she's talking about the physical body and she's talking about the spirit and the soul.

01:17:27.480 And I think in this context, she's talking about astral projection or something like

01:17:31.840 that.

01:17:32.100 So technically, if that's to be believed, are we also, we would be three in one designed

01:17:39.300 after whatever God has designed himself after.

01:17:42.260 Perfect.

01:17:42.700 You nailed it.

01:17:43.440 Because here's how I put it.

01:17:44.320 Because people have a lot of trouble designating the three and how they are one and also separate.

01:17:50.400 Me too.

01:17:51.280 It's confusing.

01:17:53.200 It's tough for us to wrap our minds around, but think of it this way.

01:17:57.680 God, the father is, are the thoughts, the will.

01:18:04.720 God, the son is called the word.

01:18:07.240 They're the words.

01:18:08.160 The Holy Spirit is the actions.

01:18:11.220 If I were to ask you, what are you?

01:18:12.700 Are you your thoughts, your words, or your actions?

01:18:14.900 The answer is yes.

01:18:17.220 Your words, your thoughts.

01:18:19.160 First, you think it, you speak it, and you do it.

01:18:22.920 If you look in the Bible at the functions, what does God do?

01:18:26.540 God comes up with the thoughts.

01:18:28.040 He is the will.

01:18:30.180 Jesus is the word.

01:18:31.600 He is the expression.

01:18:34.480 In fact, whenever we see an entity in the Old Testament who called the angel of the Lord

01:18:39.660 or in the malakim Elohim, the messenger Elohim of Jehovah, that's Jesus.

01:18:47.840 And he's always coming to speak.

01:18:49.820 He's communicating.

01:18:51.780 Then the spirit of God is always doing stuff.

01:18:54.180 He's making physical actions.

01:18:55.840 He's doing physical actions.

01:18:58.420 Those are the aspects of God.

01:19:00.940 Thoughts, words, actions.

01:19:03.660 The father are the thoughts, the will.

01:19:07.120 And the will is over everything else.

01:19:08.980 You're not going to say anything you don't think.

01:19:11.160 You're not going to do anything you don't think.

01:19:12.840 So that's why he's the chief.

01:19:16.180 That's why he is the head of the Godhead because the thoughts come first.

01:19:22.940 Then and the words.

01:19:24.180 But the words are equal.

01:19:25.460 They're all equal.

01:19:26.320 They're all doing the same thing.

01:19:28.220 Your actions are your thoughts because you think before you do it.

01:19:31.920 Your words are your thoughts.

01:19:32.780 So they're all equal.

01:19:33.740 But there's a hierarchy.

01:19:35.080 You think it.

01:19:35.920 You say it.

01:19:36.560 You do it.

01:19:37.160 But you're going to do what you say.

01:19:40.520 You're going to say what you think.

01:19:41.720 You're going to think what you do.

01:19:44.160 So that's how they're all the same.

01:19:46.320 You're not going to do something you don't think.

01:19:49.960 So the God, the father, God, the Holy Spirit are never going to diverge.

01:19:54.940 You're not.

01:19:55.540 You can't say something you don't think.

01:19:57.040 So God, the father and God, the son can never diverge.

01:19:58.960 That is interesting because you would say like, you know, with the Trinity, the way I've come to understand it, these are all aspects of one being.

01:20:10.040 That's why the Trinity shows you like the overlap in the center.

01:20:13.500 And then there are still like, you know, the outer parts that don't connect.

01:20:17.700 And so they're distinctly separate, but really they are attributes of the same being.

01:20:23.400 And, and yeah, you would, I mean, my thoughts are me, my actions are me, but I am me as well.

01:20:30.680 And so, yeah, you would, you would identify with several different components of, I guess, the human condition.

01:20:36.020 This is actually a good question here.

01:20:37.640 Why are there two thrones and not three in heaven?

01:20:40.560 Well, because the Holy, because the Holy Spirit doesn't rule.

01:20:43.680 The Holy Spirit just acts.

01:20:45.760 Okay.

01:20:47.520 Yeah.

01:20:48.340 So, yeah, that, that's why it is a good question because the Holy Spirit is different.

01:20:52.800 And, and, and people, because in the Holy Spirit is probably the toughest one for us to wrap our minds around the father.

01:20:58.080 We can see that, you know, father, he's, so he's the will he's the, you know, he's got Jesus, you know, he's, he's the word.

01:21:03.660 He's the kind of one that came to die for our sins.

01:21:05.680 What's the Holy Spirit?

01:21:06.980 The Holy Spirit is just, you know, this amorphous thing out there.

01:21:09.980 And that, and people, so people try to, you know, either blend the father and the spirit or something else like that.

01:21:15.380 But we know the spirit is distinct and has a personality because it says the, in the, in Paul says that you can,

01:21:22.800 grieve the Holy Spirit.

01:21:25.920 You can't grieve something that doesn't love you.

01:21:28.160 So the Holy Spirit loves you just like God loves you.

01:21:30.420 And Jesus loves you.

01:21:31.060 The Holy Spirit loves you too.

01:21:31.860 You can grieve the Holy Spirit.

01:21:35.880 So, but the Holy Spirit is the action and he's what does things.

01:21:40.120 So remember when we had, wasn't on, on, on this show in particular, but we had John Lenhart on before.

01:21:46.320 And we talked about, you know, the, the different personalities and the administrator and teacher and all that kind of stuff.

01:21:50.720 Each one of the Trinity has a different intangible driver.

01:21:55.460 God, the father is exhorter perceiver.

01:21:58.460 He just states X, but he wants you to feel what he feels.

01:22:02.060 That's what God wants.

01:22:02.760 That's the whole purpose of my Jehovah story Bible study.

01:22:05.420 God wants you to know him.

01:22:06.720 He wants you to feel what he's feeling.

01:22:08.560 That's what an exhorter is.

01:22:09.480 An exhorter is someone who wants to get, who wants to, he's going to, God's going to speak a word so that you underget him.

01:22:15.400 You understand him and you move forward.

01:22:17.220 An exhorter wants you to move forward.

01:22:19.880 God is always about move.

01:22:21.300 God, the father is also about moving you forward.

01:22:23.900 Remember when he says that the King David was a man after his own heart.

01:22:29.080 Why?

01:22:29.480 Because David was the same way.

01:22:30.560 David was exhorter perceiver.

01:22:32.240 God would, God would state a fact to, to David and say, David, you screwed up.

01:22:36.460 David would say, cool, God, that's great.

01:22:37.620 Let's move forward.

01:22:38.600 God loved that because that's who he was.

01:22:41.680 So he was a man after God's own heart.

01:22:43.800 Jesus is server, server.

01:22:46.800 A server is someone who meets a need.

01:22:48.840 And Jesus is all about doing whatever it takes to meet needs.

01:22:53.000 That's what Jesus did.

01:22:54.920 He was, he would do anything.

01:22:56.560 He would do whatever it took to make, to, to meet a need.

01:22:59.500 And this, you have to, you have to go to flow test.com.

01:23:01.380 If you want to get a fuller understanding of this, the Holy spirit.

01:23:04.060 David, on the other hand, is he's an administrator.

01:23:08.440 He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's administrator server.

01:23:12.780 He, he, an administrator, you know, this day, because you're an administrator, someone who

01:23:17.020 is, is all about getting a group of people to get towards a goal.

01:23:20.000 And he does it by serving serving means you can be any of the, of the seven in order

01:23:25.800 to, to, to get what you want to happen.

01:23:28.120 And an administrator is trying to get a group of people towards a goal.

01:23:31.300 That's why the Holy spirit is in charge of the church.

01:23:33.300 The Holy spirit is trying, is, is administrating the entire body of Christ towards a goal.

01:23:38.460 And he, he can do it by perceiving, by teaching, by giving, by being compassionate, whatever

01:23:42.180 it takes, but the Holy spirit is all.

01:23:44.160 And because he's a server, he's unpredictable.

01:23:45.640 You know, the Holy spirit is kind of wild, so he, he will do whatever it takes to administrate

01:23:51.340 a group of people.

01:23:52.280 So my point in that is, is to help you understand that, that that's, that's the role that these

01:23:57.720 father, son, and Holy spirit are very, are all have the same nature, but they have different

01:24:03.640 ways of doing it.

01:24:05.060 They have different ways of getting you to where they want.

01:24:08.640 Interesting.

01:24:09.580 You think, go ahead, do you think the reason that, that he is a, he has separated himself

01:24:15.300 into three, uh, understandable personalities.

01:24:19.460 I mean, although it's, it is one, but these are his personalities.

01:24:22.700 Has he done that because, uh, he doesn't know which angels will fall.

01:24:27.180 Like you can't, I can't have another angel that I create right next to me that's supposed

01:24:31.820 to carry out this role to like the Holy spirit.

01:24:34.920 Can I have an angel just go and fill a church and fill people?

01:24:38.140 And it's like, well, what happens when that guy messes up?

01:24:40.600 You know, and that, like, that's, that's big business there.

01:24:42.880 Well, we have to look at the fact that, that, that the trinity, the Godhead always existed.

01:24:47.760 There wasn't a point where one was created.

01:24:49.440 They've always existed.

01:24:52.220 And so the question is, well, how could they all, how could they always, how could three

01:24:56.240 always exist?

01:24:57.200 Well, they actually would have to, because you have, there has to, if they didn't exist,

01:25:02.320 you could, God couldn't be love.

01:25:05.900 Because love, you cannot have love by yourself.

01:25:08.460 Love is directed towards someone or something else.

01:25:12.760 So the trinity always had always existed because they all love each other.

01:25:18.420 And you cannot have love with, with only one entity.

01:25:22.480 So when you say God is love, you have to say God is more than one because God's, God didn't

01:25:26.700 just start being love when he created people or angels.

01:25:30.720 He had to have been love before that.

01:25:32.840 In order to have love, you need to have an object of love and an, and someone to witness

01:25:37.120 it, God says he loved the son before the creation.

01:25:42.760 So, and again, I'm not saying this is all a clean definition and I, and I'm still

01:25:47.260 understanding it.

01:25:48.480 I mean, I'm not telling you that I have all the answers to the trinity, but what I'm

01:25:50.760 saying is that here's, this is how it conceptually makes sense.

01:25:54.340 And I think we're going to spend an eternity understanding how they exist, but we know the

01:26:01.040 Bible says, here's, and this is what I do on faith by reason.

01:26:03.100 I know that the Bible is true and what it says is true.

01:26:06.820 And my job is to try to make it make sense to the best of my ability.

01:26:10.600 And this is what I'm doing.

01:26:11.960 Does it make complete sense?

01:26:13.120 No, I'm going to tell you right now that trinity does not make complete sense to me, but I'm

01:26:17.420 using what I understand to make it make more sense because us as linear beings, we just,

01:26:22.740 we have a tough time wrapping our mind around it.

01:26:24.660 But what we have to do is, you know, do the best that we can to understand it until we

01:26:29.520 get to eternity.

01:26:30.560 Maybe we'll understand it more fully then.

01:26:33.020 But if God says it's true, then, then I believe it.

01:26:36.280 And, but I want to know why I believe it, why I shouldn't believe it, why it can make

01:26:39.840 sense to the degree to which I can understand it and help others understand it.

01:26:45.680 It's very, very perplexing.

01:26:47.380 I like what Curtis said here.

01:26:48.420 He said, uh, the saying that you have to love yourself before you can love someone else.

01:26:52.020 That is, that is really true.

01:26:53.800 So that's kind of a, maybe an age old principle, right?

01:26:58.120 Quite possibly.

01:26:58.780 Yeah.

01:26:59.380 It is interesting that God never says he loves angels.

01:27:01.480 That doesn't mean he doesn't.

01:27:04.640 But it's interesting that that's never said in the Bible.

01:27:06.980 That's something I'm just throwing.

01:27:07.920 I have no answer to that.

01:27:08.800 I'm just putting it out there because I know we're kind of riff on this show.

01:27:12.760 Well, do you like, yeah, do you, if you created an AI, would you love it?

01:27:17.040 Or would it just be one of these things that it's like, yeah, just keep doing what you

01:27:20.760 do, I'll like, keep tinkering with you, but like, it's not necessarily a love there.

01:27:25.780 Right.

01:27:26.140 So it's like, but then they have their own free, I guess they don't really have their

01:27:30.260 own free will, but they can fall.

01:27:32.200 So they do have free will.

01:27:34.660 They have free will until you have free will until you're judged.

01:27:37.400 When God judges you, you no longer have your free will.

01:27:40.080 Like, you know, the, the serpent, the Nakash from the garden of Eden does not have free

01:27:43.760 will, but when they fall, yeah, they're, they're done.

01:27:46.080 They have no more free will.

01:27:46.880 They cannot act outside of their nature.

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01:28:49.660 So when God cursed the Nakash, the serpent, and said that you will be eating dust, which

01:28:54.900 you know, dust is an idiom for man.

01:28:56.320 He's saying that you will hunger for the death of a destructive man.

01:28:59.240 That's his curse.

01:29:00.120 He cannot do anything else other than that.

01:29:03.580 So that's why they're locked into what the book of Revelation says.

01:29:07.300 They can't do anything outside of that because once God curses you, you no longer have that

01:29:13.280 free will.

01:29:14.040 The angels in heaven still have a free will, but they choose to be obedient, the ones who

01:29:20.900 didn't fall.

01:29:23.420 Yeah, that makes their relationship.

01:29:25.120 Perhaps that's why they envy our relationship with God because it's almost like he is their

01:29:30.080 father, but yeah, that idea of him loving them is never really expressed, at least in

01:29:38.100 the Bible.

01:29:38.500 But then why would it be expressed in the Bible?

01:29:40.200 Like, it's not for them.

01:29:42.380 It's this is written for us.

01:29:44.740 Yeah.

01:29:45.000 Maybe he does, but we do know that, you know, when he basically justifies his love for us,

01:29:50.860 he says he loved because he died for us.

01:29:54.760 And of course, love is given without the expectation of getting anything in return.

01:29:57.960 So he's given to us without.

01:30:00.980 So what Jesus said, you know, I, he says, I forgot, so love the world that he what gave

01:30:06.580 his only begotten son so that whosoever.

01:30:08.740 So he gave without any expectation.

01:30:10.920 He said, whosoever, maybe none of you will come to me, but I'm going to give you the sacrifice

01:30:16.040 anyway, without the expectation that anyone will accept me.

01:30:19.660 So that's love.

01:30:20.860 Did he do that for the angels?

01:30:22.840 Well, I don't see any biblical.

01:30:24.400 It doesn't mean he didn't, but there's, it's not in the Bible.

01:30:26.360 But again, the Bible is for our edification, for us to understand God, not for the angels

01:30:32.220 to understand him.

01:30:34.020 Yeah.

01:30:34.160 There's a, there's an entire prehistory that we were not privy to.

01:30:37.440 And I think you just, you just kind of like ran through it a little bit, just in the first

01:30:41.060 verse, you're talking about that gap.

01:30:43.520 He creates the heaven and the earth, but then what happens?

01:30:46.880 Yeah.

01:30:47.060 So I want to wrap up by just talking about quickly the gap theory and the other aspects

01:30:52.420 of aspects of that.

01:30:55.240 So the gap theory is again, the idea that there's just this, this period of time between verse

01:30:59.780 one and verse two.

01:31:01.160 Some people try to theistic evolution is trying to say, well, this, we believe in a gap theory,

01:31:05.840 but we believe this is where you can fit in dinosaurs and millions of years and all this

01:31:09.900 kind of stuff.

01:31:10.400 So I believe in the gap theory, but not in that aspect of it, because I think theistic

01:31:14.560 evolution is stupid.

01:31:15.400 It's silly.

01:31:16.320 Okay.

01:31:16.640 Stupid.

01:31:17.680 Because it's, it's people being lukewarm.

01:31:20.500 It's folks who say, well, you know, I, I know the story about the six days of creation,

01:31:24.240 but also in school, I hear about billions of years and dinosaurs and mammoths and all this

01:31:29.400 kind of stuff.

01:31:29.800 How do I make that fit?

01:31:31.040 Well, we can just shove all the evolution stuff into this gap.

01:31:34.120 Well, that's, there's a problem with that because there's no death before Adam's sin

01:31:41.180 and Adam isn't created until the end of, well, until the end of chapter one.

01:31:47.900 So how can you have dinosaurs living and dying for millions of years and any other prehistoric

01:31:52.420 animal, if there is no death that doesn't fit?

01:31:56.860 So you can't, it doesn't work.

01:31:59.280 You can't, so don't be lukewarm.

01:32:00.520 Just pick one or the other.

01:32:02.120 Jesus hates it.

01:32:02.720 When you look warm, you make, it makes him.

01:32:04.100 He wants to vomit you out of his mouth.

01:32:05.780 So either be, believe in the supernatural creation or believe in evolution, but don't

01:32:09.360 try to meld them together to make yourself feel better.

01:32:12.580 So, so when I say, I believe in a gap theory, I believe that there is a, that the earth may

01:32:16.280 be much older than six, 7,000 years.

01:32:19.680 I believe that because I believe that the earth was created and then the angelic civilization

01:32:24.760 was first.

01:32:25.280 And who knows?

01:32:25.880 We have no idea how long this civilization existed before that rebellion.

01:32:31.640 Maybe it was hundreds of years, maybe thousands, maybe millions.

01:32:34.100 Don't know.

01:32:35.780 So I'd never get hung up on age of the earth.

01:32:37.820 So people say, oh, we, we, we, we can age this rock to, you know, 5 billion.

01:32:41.880 Fine.

01:32:42.360 Maybe, maybe, okay.

01:32:43.240 Maybe there's an angelic civilization for that long.

01:32:44.940 I don't believe that humanity has been on earth for millions of years because there, you know,

01:32:53.200 it's, God's very clear that when Adam was the first one he created, I know that people

01:32:57.820 believe in pre-endemics, endemic civilizations who existed before Adam, but that's not biblical.

01:33:04.780 That's misunderstanding Hebrew poetry, which is what Genesis chapter one is.

01:33:08.960 I mean, we'll get into that.

01:33:10.420 Maybe we'll get into that next week.

01:33:13.040 But yeah, humanity and this creation is not more than 10,000 years old, but the earth

01:33:20.580 could be much older than that because the earth was created beforehand.

01:33:22.400 So wrap it up with this, we have the first, God creates the first intelligent beings, the

01:33:28.880 Elohim, the angels.

01:33:29.920 They rebel after some period of time.

01:33:32.840 God's, God defeats the rebellion.

01:33:35.040 He imprisons Leviathan and probably others in the oceans.

01:33:39.580 Then he's brooding over the, over the face of the waters of the chaos.

01:33:42.860 Okay.

01:33:43.240 There's nothing but chaos here.

01:33:44.920 I got to do something different.

01:33:46.480 My will is for this world to be the way I want it to be.

01:33:51.000 So I can just hang out and interact with people without all this sin.

01:33:54.020 What do I do next?

01:33:56.340 Well, I think I need, maybe I should create something that's a little lower than these

01:34:00.620 angels so that they can repent.

01:34:04.160 Angels can't repent.

01:34:05.620 We never see any indication of the Bible that an angel falls and says, yeah, you know,

01:34:09.980 my God, I screwed up.

01:34:10.680 Can I come back?

01:34:11.780 No.

01:34:12.360 Why?

01:34:12.880 Because repentance means you're sorry.

01:34:15.780 You can only be sorry if you know you made a mistake.

01:34:17.960 You can only make a mistake if you don't have full knowledge of what you're doing.

01:34:21.000 And the impact of it, the Elohim had full knowledge.

01:34:25.020 They occupy at least 11 dimensions.

01:34:28.040 They could see far beyond what we can see.

01:34:30.440 They knew exactly what they were doing.

01:34:31.880 When we get to Genesis chapter six and we, and we are comparing that with, with the book

01:34:35.080 of Enoch, when those angels make a pact with each other before they even come down and

01:34:39.020 cohabitate with women.

01:34:40.420 Simejah said, so the other angels, Hey, we need, we're about to mess up huge.

01:34:46.020 So I want you guys, I don't want, I don't want to take the blame for this by myself.

01:34:49.100 Let's enter into a pact so that if, when, when we get our asses kicked, all of us get

01:34:53.040 our asses kicked.

01:34:54.040 They all agree.

01:34:54.860 Yeah, let's do this.

01:34:55.720 So they went into it with full knowledge.

01:34:57.960 They decided that rebelling against God, that banging some human chicks and making

01:35:01.880 Nephilim was worth it.

01:35:03.960 So they are not, they can't be redeemed.

01:35:09.060 So if, so God knew that he had to, that if you create, if he creates something that's

01:35:13.200 different from himself, that is not always completely right and just, eventually it's

01:35:17.540 going to be a screw up.

01:35:18.620 And if they're going to screw up, I need to have a mechanism in place to make up for that.

01:35:23.680 So I need to make them less than the angels so that they can be redeemed.

01:35:27.800 And that kind of, that'll be our bridge to the, to our next episode when we talk about

01:35:33.680 the, the recreation.

01:35:37.980 The recreation, wait up, who's, who's being recreated?

01:35:43.220 He did that on purpose.

01:35:44.400 Like he dropped that little line.

01:35:46.100 I was going to let it sit for a second.

01:35:47.700 I was like, well, what the hell did he just say?

01:35:49.620 All right.

01:35:50.020 All right, fine.

01:35:50.800 Well, but the, the, I'm just saying the, I'm not being esoteric.

01:35:55.320 I'm just saying that God is replenishing.

01:35:56.720 I'll say replenishing instead of recreation.

01:35:59.240 He created the earth.

01:35:59.860 Earth is already there.

01:36:00.720 He's just replenishing it.

01:36:02.580 Right.

01:36:02.740 Okay.

01:36:03.120 Okay.

01:36:04.800 But he, he will be creating new life, but he's, he's replenishing the earth and creating

01:36:09.260 new life.

01:36:09.620 So I guess recreation is a bit of a misnomer.

01:36:12.800 Well, all right.

01:36:13.620 We'll leave the people with something to chew on.

01:36:16.440 Thank you, Ed, for your time.

01:36:17.880 This is the fourth one, right?

01:36:19.940 So next week, we've got to get it locked in.

01:36:22.200 We'll be sure to be here for next Friday.

01:36:24.280 Uh, in the meantime, okay, perfect, perfect.

01:36:28.560 Awesome.

01:36:29.360 Um, so where can the people find you, Ed?

01:36:32.200 Uh, faithbyreason.net, um, patreon.com slash faithbyreason.

01:36:36.080 If you want to be part, get the bonus stuff and be a part of the Bible study this Sunday

01:36:40.300 is, is Bible study number two.

01:36:43.240 And yeah, looking forward to that.

01:36:44.960 And, um, yeah, we get your weekly notes for the Bible study, get, again, bonus material,

01:36:50.340 Q and A's and all that good stuff.

01:36:52.700 And you can interact with me.

01:36:53.700 And I, I, you know, we talk, answer questions.

01:36:55.720 We've had some really good discussions and I really appreciate my Patreons and I appreciate

01:37:00.200 anyone who, who, who wants to just be a part of it.

01:37:02.600 If you just want to watch it on YouTube, you can do that too.

01:37:04.360 I just ask that you'd like, and subscribe and share the same thing with rumble and on

01:37:09.580 all the other links in the link tree.

01:37:11.420 If you want to, I'm starting to put stuff on Instagram, just like, you know, shorter

01:37:15.600 videos on there.

01:37:16.980 Maybe I'll start doing it on Tik TOK again as well.

01:37:19.220 And, you know, rumble and all that kind of stuff.

01:37:21.380 So yeah.

01:37:22.760 Oh, look at that, Ed.

01:37:23.780 You got some, you got a pretty decent following on Instagram.

01:37:26.180 You should be, uh, that that's not me.

01:37:28.660 Oh, that's not you.

01:37:29.700 No, somebody else has your name.

01:37:32.520 What the hell?

01:37:33.040 I've got faith by reason before me.

01:37:35.920 Um, so if that's, if that's my link tree is saying, I've got to, I've got to redo that.

01:37:39.920 That's not where my, yeah, you got to redo that.

01:37:41.940 That's not your link.

01:37:44.640 No wonder the guy's got such a big following.

01:37:46.760 It's just people that think that it's you.

01:37:48.740 Okay.

01:37:49.740 I will redo my link tree.

01:37:51.520 That's so funny.

01:37:52.320 I knew, I knew that that person existed, but when I did my link tree, I thought that I

01:37:55.980 put mine in there.

01:37:57.180 That guy is sitting here.

01:37:58.520 He's like, I got an un, uh, active account and he's like, I don't know.

01:38:01.740 I mean, I knew I put some bangers out there all that time ago, but I didn't know people

01:38:05.420 are still resonating with it.

01:38:06.540 It's like, they're not.

01:38:07.280 All right.

01:38:07.560 You're not Ed Mabry.

01:38:08.480 People think you're Ed Mabry.

01:38:09.560 That's where the, uh, that has happened.

01:38:12.360 People are saying your Instagram looks so different.

01:38:14.120 I guess that's not me.

01:38:15.440 Yeah.

01:38:15.880 Yeah.

01:38:16.120 You got to fix it.

01:38:17.100 Uh, uh, or see if we can tell that guy, take down, change your name.

01:38:20.540 So mine is faith by reason reels.

01:38:23.520 Faith by reason reels.

01:38:24.740 Okay.

01:38:25.020 All right.

01:38:25.300 There you go.

01:38:26.040 Reason.

01:38:26.420 So I thought I put that in the link tree.

01:38:27.700 I must've, I think maybe I screwed up something.

01:38:30.080 And this guy's been getting all your, all your, all the people looking to see what

01:38:34.100 Ed Mabry's cooking on or going to the wrong guy.

01:38:36.420 We got to fix that.

01:38:37.320 We got to fix that for sure.

01:38:38.820 Uh, well, thank you, Ed.

01:38:40.040 It's been a blast.

01:38:40.960 Uh, I look forward to doing it next week again.

01:38:43.760 Uh, thank you to everybody who watched the show.

01:38:45.520 Thank you, Ed, for your time.

01:38:46.940 Uh, top.

01:38:47.540 We got anything else.

01:38:48.800 That's it guys.

01:38:49.640 Oh, um, uh, yeah.

01:38:50.640 Stick around.

01:38:51.180 Actually.

01:38:51.460 We'll be, uh, we'll be back on with Isaac.

01:38:53.880 Why stuff?

01:38:54.380 I think that's how you say his last name.

01:38:55.920 I think it's why.

01:38:57.060 Why stuff, whatever.

01:38:57.980 We'll see him in 30 minutes and we'll see you guys later.

01:39:01.160 So, uh, until then, um, let's set the outro so that way we don't look stupid here.

01:39:05.420 Right?

01:39:05.620 Yeah.

01:39:05.660 You got to do the thing.

01:39:06.860 So it just doesn't end.

01:39:08.400 Uh, I don't know how to do it.

01:39:10.020 So we're going to figure it out.

01:39:11.400 Stupid.

01:39:11.920 We got it.

01:39:13.360 We got it.

01:39:14.320 All right.

01:39:15.000 Obey, submit, comply.

01:39:16.000 See you later.

01:39:16.300 The great hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.

01:39:22.620 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

01:39:26.380 You can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see.

01:39:31.460 Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening.

01:39:39.600 And they have.

01:39:40.240 The Great Hypnotist on Planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.

01:39:46.300 The Great Hypnotist on Planet Earth is a oblong box.

Nephilim Death Squad - March 14, 2025

04： Angelic Rebellion - The Book of Genesis w⧸ Ed Mabrie

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