040: The Nephilim Return w⧸ Paul of Understanding Conspiracy and JT Follows JC
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Summary
On this episode of the show, we have two returning guests, JT and JC of Understanding Conspiracy, join us to talk about the Nephilim and their theories about the Millennial reign of the millennial Christ.
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News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.
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We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
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The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely important.
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We know what's saying shit would happen to the home of the brave.
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These motherfuckers, because they're controlling us now.
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And no one's talking about how they made us try to be slaves.
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Out in the clouds, we want to wake up to a jet in the grave.
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He goes on to say that he believes, correct me if I'm wrong, you actually watched it earlier
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and kind of saw it twice because we watched it before the show, that the UFOs and these
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But also for the record, I did not know even what the word was until about a year ago.
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My buddy Toplofster, who's absolutely obsessed with the Nephilim, he has a show called Nephilim
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Death Squad, him and Raven, they talk about the Nephilim all the time.
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We had them on the show here talking about the Nephilim, and then I think that was our
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I think we had like, what, 9,000 viewers watching live on that?
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It was an interesting conversation because we were also able to tie it into Tucker Carlson
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that's been dropping little hints about this for a very long time.
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So what it is, is from the Bible, apparently there's stories of these giants that are the
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offspring of angels that have fallen to earth and human beings.
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Guys, it's really nice to see my children talking about the Nephilim.
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These are our friends, like homies in real life, and we went on their show and we were just
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like letting them know about what was going on.
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So, Dave, you know, do an intro and then we'll let's run into it.
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It's fascinating to see the direction that the conversation is.
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Welcome, guys, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.
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That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.
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And today we have two guests with us, two returning guests, actually, from probably two
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Let's start by introducing Paul of Understanding Conspiracy.
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And then we'll get into introducing JT, follows JC.
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Paul, can you let the people know where it is that they can find your work and what it
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You can find me on YouTube under Understanding Conspiracy.
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I've been on there for about 10 years now, just getting involved in every conspiracy you
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But I am predominantly known for the Nephilim looked like clowns theory, which we've talked
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But I'm also known nowadays for sharing ideas surrounding probably what we're going to talk
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about today, which is that the millennial reign of Christ may have already happened.
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And it's a very contentious, fast-growing topic, which is capturing the imaginations
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And you know how it goes in the conspiracy world.
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Every four years or so, there's a big topic that changes everything.
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So you're talking about the little season, right?
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That's why I reached out to Paul, because shout out to MK Ryan.
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And he's been messaging me saying, you need to have Paul on to talk about the little season.
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So I'm really glad we're going to get into that today.
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We're going to talk about a little bit of this Nephilim stuff, and then we'll move into
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But before we do, JT, can you let everyone know where it is they can find you and what
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I'm on Instagram, TikTok, Joe Telford on Facebook.
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I'm kind of on all the social media apps, if you look for me.
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I did a movie actually called Ancient Angels, which focuses on angels and Nephilim.
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So if you guys are interested in that, it's kind of actually funny watching that clip.
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Sometimes we forget, like when we get into this space, how little most people know about
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And so we kind of give a big overview of the topic.
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And, you know, especially if you like you have people in your life who have no idea, like
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But in the Bible, angels had sex with women and they produced giants.
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Like the people who have never heard that, you send this to them and they'll find like,
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What's the name of that documentary and where can they find it?
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Obviously, it's a play off Ancient Aliens, where the show where everything that we can't
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I mean, but it's more true to the stories, like because those guys say, well, maybe these
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guys were just too primitive to know who they were dealing with and what they called gods
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They were sons of God, as talked about in the book of Job and Genesis 6.
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It's interesting how like you just basically covered the same thing that Tucker Carlson
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But Tucker does it in this trepidatious way because he's from the mainstream media.
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So he's like, this is going to sound really crazy as I say this.
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I'm not sure if this, it's like a 15 minute segment where he goes in.
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And let's just play that so you guys could hear this.
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Because it's like it's a strange thing to see come almost full circle where the talking
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head that, you know, was breaking was breaking down like Russiagate on Trump and kind of
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telling the truth at the time is now doing this thing.
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So like where do we put this as conspiracy theorists or human beings in general?
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You truly don't want to know any more about it.
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Well, one, you know, I'm a Christian and I am fairly sincere about it.
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But one thing that you notice about all every world religion I'm familiar with, I'm interested
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You know, Jesus is unique and I believe in Jesus.
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So I'm not, I don't believe in any kind of pantheology.
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Okay, I don't think they're all equal or anything like that.
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But there are commonalities that are very striking between all world religions I'm aware
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And one of them, and this is, of course, true for Christianity, very true, is that the belief
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But that they take physical form, that they're not just like some ethereal, they're not just
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shadows floating around, specters, fog, that they're physical.
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Like, they're as real as the arm of your chair.
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And it's described in Genesis as well, in Genesis 6.
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Again, it's not just the religion of the ancient Hebrews or the religion of the modern Christians.
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And the animist religions, the religions of, to the extent we understand them or know about
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So if, if every culture in the world that we know about, who's left any kind of written
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or physical record, is reaching the same conclusions about something, maybe there's
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You use that word to describe his approach in this conference, uh, conversation.
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And I've come to be pretty comfortable with the idea that Tucker is into sort of, um, cabalist,
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And he's famously pictured with the, the red cabal bracelet.
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I don't know how you jump from that to saying that I'm a Christian, I believe in Christ.
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Um, I don't know that I would disagree vehemently with anything that he said there.
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You might be able to get him on some semantics, maybe in the way that he described things,
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but not in a way that I would feel, uh, you know, comfortable being an authority speaking
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Uh, so it's just interesting because he didn't really say, you'd have to watch the entire,
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um, interview, which I guess was on the Sean Ryan show.
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I'm sure it's, it's a damn near two hour long interview, but this isn't the first time
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And I got to admit that it's almost given me pause because if it wasn't for, especially
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having done this show, collecting this, this large body of evidence from all these people,
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um, you know, you guys are amongst those as previous guests.
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Uh, we've done, I don't know, probably closing in on, on 40 episodes.
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Most of which are, uh, you know, the biblical lens being what you would use to see our modern
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day existence and conspiracy theory and all these different things through.
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So we're well familiar with the topic, but still hearing Tucker Carlson present this on
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such a large stage as the Sean Ryan show makes me go like, Oh, where am I going?
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Because why is this, why are my thoughts now in alignment with, um, with him?
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And I think that we've said it a lot on this show and I don't think that Tucker Carlson is,
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Um, and you know, I don't think that he's beyond redemption.
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So maybe this is the truth for him, or maybe this is one of those things where it's like
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the best lie is one that maintains as closely parallel to the truth as possible.
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You want in order to sell a lie, it to be comprised of 99% truth.
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So who knows, but I'd be interested in hearing, um, you know, everybody else's thoughts on
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really, what do you make of, of Tucker saying this?
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We actually did a show, um, you know, months ago when he went on Roseanne and that's when
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like him and Roseanne, I think that was the first time he mentioned it.
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And my buddy, a friend from high school actually sent it to me knowing this kind of stuff I
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So a lot of people came at me and said, Oh, don't you know, he wears the red bracelet.
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I mean, that could be true, but it's still significant that he's saying this publicly
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because he, you know, he's a serious person, obviously certain, you know, if you're the
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wrong political persuasion, you don't take him serious.
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But like most people would consider, he was just literally on Fox news.
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As you said, he's talking about like major political issues.
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So the fact that he's saying this, for one, most of the things I've heard him say regarding
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I mean, again, like, yeah, you're talking about the small nuances of how he phrases things.
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But I have wondered when he was just on Rogan and he was talking about that aliens don't
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He was saying they come from inside the earth and the ocean.
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And I was like, he's really saying like something that's biblically true would be like that,
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you know, like if you think about the biblical cosmology.
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And like if he's talking about spiritual beings.
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So the real question is, why is he saying this now?
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And and I think that's I guess that's the thing we won't really know.
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But I mean, I I think it's awesome, honestly, that he's talking like this because because
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That have remained on the outskirts of of tick tock in, in, you know, in YouTube and
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in podcasts is now like, I mean, it's it's becoming mainstream.
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Again, I don't I don't want to assume malevolence.
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I'd rather assume ignorance before malevolence.
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But I remember your video where you were showing his talk with Roseanne Barr.
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And I made my own video kind of after listening to it, kind of asking these questions like
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Why is Tucker Carlson of all people saying the word Nephilim?
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I know this is somebody with a huge following, you know, so it's influential.
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And I've heard about the red bracelet thing as well.
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And I've had many comments thrown at me saying the exact same thing.
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You can't trust this guy as far as you can throw him or control the position.
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I mean, realistically, that is probably what's actually going on.
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But I'm going to I'm going to keep watching and I'm seeing what he's saying more and more
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And again, I can't really fault anything he's saying.
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What he's saying is completely biblical and matches up with what we've been talking about
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And I couldn't help but think of the phrase of, you know, they will give us our leaders.
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You know, they will give us our figureheads, our talking heads.
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And it is kind of true in the sense that are they just like a soft disclosure.
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They're taking them and controlling the thought processes behind them through trustworthy,
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soft speaking characters who have been home names for so long, like Tucker Carlson.
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So when he talks about these things and we should listen to what he has to say and I'm
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waiting for him to take the information, then start steering it in that direction where
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So let's let's sit back and see if that does happen.
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I mean, this came off the back of the sighting that happened where there was like lines of
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police cars outside that shopping mall because everyone supposedly was seeing giants everywhere
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or something like that, you know, it's all kind of happening at once.
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So when these things happen, I think we have to take a step back as conspiracy theorist
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researchers and look at the big picture in the narrative.
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And it does seem like there is a an externalization of the hierarchy situation going on.
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They're letting people know the truth now slowly that this drip feeding out by took a
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course and saying the word Nephilim here and Roseanne Barr saying it over there and a glimpse
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Just little things like that happening every now and then.
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And it feels like they are bringing themselves out.
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And that fit with my research perfectly because they literally look like big, giant, smiling
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And it's but why start releasing this information now?
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Alice Bailey did write a book called The Externalization of the Hierarchy, which explains and talks about
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And she's claiming by the time it gets to this point, the masses will have been initiated into
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the mystery wisdom occult level to what they want them to know in preparation for this world
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teacher to come onto the stage and start basically talking about Luciferianism, but masks as New
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She she was there to create the loosest trust, as it's known today.
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You know, this is what she did back in the day.
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And this world teacher that we're about to see on the stage, you know, it's probably going
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It's going to be something similar, you know, and if that's just a year away and now they're
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talking about highly spiritual biblical concepts like demons and the Nephilim, something's
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And if you watch the rest of it, there's about 15 minutes of this interview where they're
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talking specifically about the Nephilim and he talks about from 1945 to a current day.
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And he's saying how spirituality is basically ignored and and there's an op being run on
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Then he also does a little quip in there like and I know a thing or two about running
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You know, even though, you know, he's kind of telling us the truth in Fox News, he there
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still it's still tainted with this, you know, whatever narrative he likes to push.
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But he's saying from 1945, the dropping of the A-bomb till now.
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Now, there's been a denial of spiritualism or spirituality or the Bible or however you
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And now it's almost like he's kicking that door open or he's he's the guy that's just
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creaking it and just opening it, opening it slightly for people to come in.
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So if we are gearing up towards I named the episode The Nephilim Return, just being a little
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But if we are gearing up towards this, does it start here?
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And does it have to it does have to open up to the people?
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The people do have to be aware of what's going on, because there's going to be a lot of strange
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Or I mean, Paul, you might you might just come here and blow our minds and tell us that
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You mean like, yeah, you mean when Jesus was around the earth?
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No, but I was I want to go back to what Paul said.
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I think I want to change my answer to what Paul said, because what he's saying is because
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I started I started to think about it like that there's this groundswell.
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Obviously, I mean, again, I I think all of us as you do this, it's it's easy to get tunnel
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As I said, you don't really know what everyone else knows about this, but I mean, I've had
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major big hit videos on the social media apps talking about Nephilim.
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I mean, so how many like literally billions of people have heard about the Nephilim on
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And then it's like so there's this groundswell of of increased knowledge and awareness of this
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topic. And maybe somebody says, we need to get out ahead of this.
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We're going to make we're going to stage a co-op of this.
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And then we are going to lead it because you have a lot of people who know just a very little
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about this. So obviously, Tucker Carlson and even us, we'd say, yes, I haven't heard him
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But then maybe one day he does start saying things that are wrong.
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And by then it's like, who's going to who are they going to believe Paul from
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understanding conspiracy? They're going to believe me over Tucker Carlson.
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It's like this guy is obviously well respected and he knows what they know and he's got a
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better voice. And I agree with him on his politics, too.
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We talk about on this show very often about how there's no such thing as an effective
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organic grassroots movement since I you know, God knows how long ago that hasn't been
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As soon as it becomes viable and promising, they're going to co-opt and steer the
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movement. You might look at this Nephilim narrative.
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Certainly we were inspired by not only the evidence for their existence, but also
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previous content creators who were talking about these things in such a compelling way
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that this story clicked and settled in pieces of a puzzle so effectively that it was like,
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it's time to start talking about this. So in that way, and then of course, at least for
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our show, the rapid fan base that it's developed is certainly indicative that this resonates
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with people. So I would imagine that, yeah, this is something that they'd want to co-opt.
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My thing, and this is just speculation, but I always kind of imagine that, especially with
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what I would consider an alien deception, that they were going to try to take these, this seemed like
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the simplest path. They were going to take these ancient biblical adversaries of humanity, and they
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were going to rebrand them as benevolent space beings who are highly technologically advanced,
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and for some reason have a benevolence that makes them interested in us not destroying our own
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planet, destroying one another in mutually assured nuclear destruction. And so they were going to
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intervene on behalf of mankind out of sheer benevolence and no other reason. And that that was a very
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compelling way to, to take these entities. And like I said, rebrand them. Now, I look at what Tucker's
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saying, and I'm going, well, this is, uh, I got to admit, this is a little left field. This is,
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I don't think you can effectively do that anymore. If you start to call them Nephilim and people begin
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to understand that these are ancient biblical adversarial entities, um, then they're not going
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to, to trust them. The only thing that I, that I almost see left on the plate, if you were going to
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deceive people with this, and, and this is only in my limited thought in this moment, is that you're
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going to cue people into a Luciferian idea, that they were justified, that the fallen were justified,
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and that God is, um, wrong, and that the rebellion against God is actually something to be looked
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kindly upon, and that these, these spirits should be, because I guess when it comes to, we talk about
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on this show all the time, it's consent, right? Especially when dealing with these spirits, uh,
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these entities, consent is everything. Can you consent to, to something that has been falsified?
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In other words, if, if I present you, um, a proposition, but I've lied in the fine print,
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are you truly consenting to that proposition? Maybe they have to tell you their nature in order for you
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to truly consent. So maybe the goal is expose them for what they truly are, but then let's work a
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narrative that you want to be on the side of these entities, so that your consent actually matters.
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It's not really a narrative, but like, you know, you see throughout the Bible, Moses goes up,
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gets the Ten Commandments, comes down, they're worshiping something else. It's not, and it's not
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because, um, they just, uh, decided to stray away from God, but that's something else was giving them
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something. And that something else didn't trick them. It didn't need to trick them. It was Moloch.
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It's, they built the cow. They know what it is. Can I give you a biblical story that I, I like to bring up in
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this situation, is the story of Balaam and Zabalak. And so Balaam, Zabalak the king, when they're going
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into Canaan, he wants them to curse the Israelites. And, but, but he, but Balaam cannot curse what God
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has blessed. So he tries like three times, he ends up blessing them three times. Later in the story,
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what he ends up doing is he ends up tricking the Israelites into worshiping Baal of Peor.
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And so it's a thing where, you know, like in the book of Deuteronomy, and obviously they, they even
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have like, we're going to be blessed if we do these things and we're going to be cursed if we do these
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things. So what he got them to do was to curse themselves. So they had, they went to some kind of
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like, obviously sounds like crazy festival where they're having sex with like probably the temple
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prostitutes and doing all the things. And so unknowingly they worshiped Baal of Peor and
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cursed themselves. And they, obviously they all got death for that. So what they, so they were
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tricked in a way. I don't think they knew they were intending to go worship another God, but what
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they did was they should have known better than what they did. They knew what they were doing was
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wrong, but they didn't know the level of sin they were committing. And I think that's, that is,
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that is why they were supposed to be vigilant when, yeah, they might be lying to you, but they're kind
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of telling, like you, they're, the warning signs are there for you to, you know, you're, you know,
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you're doing something that's, that's not of God. And so when it went, well, I was tricked. It's like
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the Faustine bargain. Oh, well, I mean, so the devil lied to you. Yeah, that's, that's what he's going
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to do. So like you should have known better to make deals or accept deals from, you know, the devil
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basically. Yeah. I, I, I imagine that there are varying degrees of, like we're saying, if, if
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consent is important and you're lying in such a way that is, what's a lie that you might tell
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that is easily perceived as a lie. But if you want to go ahead and do this thing, that is a sin,
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that lie grants you enough comfort where you're like, Oh yeah, I didn't, I didn't see through that.
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So I don't know. I mean, honestly, at this point in the game, it's all speculation, right? We don't
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know where this whole Tucker Carlson thing is going. But it is fascinating to watch it unravel
00:26:41.120
because it wasn't on my bingo card that I was just going to, I was just going to say
00:26:46.800
that a possibility could be that there's, there's still a wide swath of the population
00:26:54.500
who's not going to fall for aliens because they don't believe in them. So what if, what
00:26:59.240
if you say you just, again, like if we get into a semantic thing, like I guess, go back
00:27:03.980
to the ancient aliens thing. Oh, well, somebody calls them gods. Somebody, somebody calls them
00:27:09.180
aliens. Some people call them angels. Some people call them aliens. Like, okay. So even
00:27:15.300
us biblically, we'd say that the morning stars, the sons of God are not from earth. So technically
00:27:21.040
they are not from here. They're, they're aliens, right? You know? And so, so we get into semantics.
00:27:27.780
So like maybe the real trick is when something shows up, call them whatever you want. You're going
00:27:33.500
to be afraid because if you're a religious person, you'll believe in angels and Nephilim. And if
00:27:38.880
you're a science person, you'll believe in the aliens to me, I have a bit of a different
00:27:45.900
take on all of this these days in light of this new theory going around about the millennial
00:27:50.740
reign already happening. And Oh, please tell us. Are you, are you sure? Yes. Let's get
00:27:56.520
into the meat of this. Are you, are you sure you want to hear this? I don't know. I don't
00:28:00.740
know. Cause you know, we, we know there's been an agenda to program the masses to prepare
00:28:07.920
for an alien invasion for over a hundred years since the war of the worlds and all this,
00:28:11.600
you know, people were literally shooting at grain towers when that radio broadcast went
00:28:15.040
out. Cause they thought tripods were invading because they legitimately believed it was a
00:28:18.500
real broadcast saying aliens had been invaded, you know, and it never stopped from there.
00:28:23.480
There's been nothing but a barrage of alien invasion related media just bombarding us and
00:28:29.700
bombarding every generation for over a hundred years. They want us to believe aliens are out
00:28:35.160
there and about to invade. But at the same time, we also know you can't really keep the
00:28:43.160
cat in the box when it comes to the truth of demons and Nephilim and biblical history.
00:28:48.220
So we're seeing these narratives where they're trying to control that now and they're letting
00:28:51.740
you know, it's demons. It's not really aliens, you know? And I think the setting demons up
00:28:58.480
to, to fail. I think the demons have a role to play in all of this. And I think they are
00:29:02.940
going to reveal themselves and they are going to be defeated. And that's their job to do
00:29:08.920
that, to be defeated. That's kind of the point of all of this. And there will be a savior.
00:29:13.780
There'll be something that saves us from the evil invading aliens. If you still stubbornly
00:29:19.060
don't want to believe in the spiritual side of things, you'll stick to aliens. But if
00:29:23.680
you are, like I said, Christians who believe in the Nephilim and demons, then something's
00:29:28.400
going to come and defeat the demons. And most Christians are waiting for Jesus to return to
00:29:33.520
do just that, you know? And I'm sure there'll be a savior who will appear, who appears to have
00:29:38.260
defeated the demons and established a new reign of some kind, works peace and security and
00:29:43.040
everything's wonderful, you know? Cause all evil has been destroyed or something. I don't
00:29:47.660
know, but we've been programmed to play into this idea of, um, something that I'm, I'm pretty
00:29:53.660
unfamiliar with, but I do see, uh, occasionally people who I, I, I respect because the information
00:30:01.780
that they put out is, uh, is, you know, considerable. I've seen this idea of, of, of a false sort of
00:30:09.040
apocalypse, uh, one that would be, and, and I've never, I haven't had time to look into
00:30:14.840
it, but I, I find it fascinating. And now as you're starting to describe this, I'm going,
00:30:19.320
oh, that's interesting. Could we have sort of, uh, uh, uh, let's not even call it an apocalypse,
00:30:26.520
but like you're describing a false savior, almost a false flag event, right? Except it's,
00:30:34.580
it's a spiritual one. It's not a, uh, a geopolitical one.
00:30:37.900
Well, there's many, there's many ways to play this card. This is the, this is the issue. I
00:30:41.760
can't give you the definitive script of what's, how this is going to go down. They have A
00:30:45.520
to Z of scripts to choose from, and they'll pick whichever one worked at the time when
00:30:49.280
necessary based on what's, what went down and how people reacted. This isn't just a
00:30:53.180
cut and dry. There's one plan here. They, they have multiple plans. They could just play
00:30:57.920
at any moment. And all the programming for each individual plan has been laid out before
00:31:01.260
us for a long time. And we've been in the game of decoding the media and finding
00:31:06.260
the symbols and signs and the predictive programming, you know, and what they're trying to do for
00:31:10.680
us. And we know there's a transhumanist agenda in some way to merge mankind with machine or
00:31:15.920
in some way to develop a super intelligence through artificial intelligence, which will
00:31:19.560
create some kind of systematic control or nets over humanity where you can't break out of
00:31:24.120
it. We know that's already well underway anyway, since minority report came out as a film.
00:31:28.320
And prior to that, you know, they've, they've been building that and the transhumanist agenda
00:31:33.680
is clearly at play in cahoots with the AI agenda as well. So something's going on there.
00:31:37.980
We know there's some weird black goose symbolism constantly being thrown at us. So they're working
00:31:42.240
to do a programmable matter in some weird way, which will then shape reality and what we perceive
00:31:48.120
to be something that it really isn't. They can meld reality to be whatever they want it to
00:31:52.980
be. We know there's something weird and trippy going on with CERN. And we know there's something
00:31:56.740
odd happening with reality itself when it comes to those things like the Mandela effects,
00:32:01.100
depending on where you want to go with that constant idea. Something weird is going on
00:32:05.280
on a quantum level where reality is malleable now and it's not quite as cut and dry as most
00:32:10.340
people would like to believe. I would agree with that disturbing sentiment that somehow reality
00:32:17.200
is more malleable. Yeah, that I would agree with that. But that's what I'm saying. If you look at
00:32:21.420
movies over the past hundred years, they've been pre-programming us with a lot of agendas and plays
00:32:26.720
plays, cards they could play. You know, they've been softly prepping our spongy brains with
00:32:34.180
these ideas. So it's in there when it goes down. So we've already been pre-programmed to react the
00:32:39.980
way they want us to react when those things happen. And aliens is a big one of them. But
00:32:44.100
obviously me and Joe have been talking about this theory, this idea that, well, if the millennial
00:32:49.720
kingdom has already been established on Earth and we can see remnants of that everywhere when you
00:32:54.580
actually pay attention is what most non-Christians would call the Tartarian Empire. What we're doing
00:33:00.020
is reinterpreting that as this is evidence that Christ physically reigned on Earth for a thousand
00:33:04.560
years. If that has already come and gone, which we can get into the details afterwards, but just to
00:33:09.020
get this alien point out of the way, if that has already come and gone, then there is no
00:33:14.000
tribulation event that's truly about to happen. That's already happened before his return that over a
00:33:20.060
thousand years ago. What we're living in is a time called the little season of Satan, which
00:33:24.380
happens just after the millennial reign ends. And if we're living in that time, whatever's about to
00:33:30.600
come, it seems like they're prepping people for tribulation and Christ's return. But it cannot be
00:33:38.680
that if it's already happened. But it seems like they're going to make it look like that's happening
00:33:45.020
to the best of their ability. And the alien invasion is a part of that process. It seems
00:33:50.220
that's the card they're going to play to make it seem like in some way, shape or form, we're stuck in
00:33:55.260
some kind of biblical tribulation event and the world savior will appear, who's obviously a false
00:34:00.780
savior. This is what we're talking about here. This isn't that most people have been prepped to believe
00:34:05.500
perhaps it's Jesus. Maybe they'll even fake a rapture event of some kind. I don't know what's going to
00:34:09.740
happen. Because even that's not a fully biblical concept anyway, the rapture, you know, he only was
00:34:13.660
invented in like the 1800s as a theology. But futurist doctrine, which is this idea that it's
00:34:19.740
just around the corner, Christ is about to return, again, is a relatively new doctrine, which was
00:34:25.980
established in about the 1800s again. And Joe's done some great work on this. So as Alpha talked to him,
00:34:31.740
actually, there's quite a handful of channels now, about 20 solid channels out there who have shown that
00:34:36.620
around the mid 1700s, something weird went down. It was a shift, a big shift. All the revolutions
00:34:44.300
basically started then. Everything happened. And if you look at the Statue of Liberty, it's quite
00:34:48.060
literally Lucifer with the chains broken at their feet, you know, and it's independence day.
00:34:53.740
Was independence from what exactly? We're told the British, you know, but was it perhaps freedom
00:35:00.060
from the millennial reign? Was this, that shift that happened in that mid 1700s, was it a shift in power?
00:35:06.460
Because there was a vacuum left behind from Christ and his saints who would have ruled for those
00:35:10.860
thousand years. Once they left, something had to fill that void and there was a power struggle.
00:35:16.380
All the revolutions, all the wars, all these things kicked off then, kingdom against kingdom,
00:35:20.780
empire against empire. Isn't it interesting in America that they had the Gatson flag,
00:35:25.420
was like the thing, don't tread on me, the coiled serpent.
00:35:30.060
When like literally in, in Luke chapter 10, Jesus gives the apostles the, uh, the authority to tread
00:35:36.540
on serpents and scorpions. And there, that's like, that's like literally the flag that were shown
00:35:41.660
that like conservatives put on their pickup trucks.
00:35:47.820
But let's, let's get back to the alien invasion story.
00:35:50.540
Well, yeah, exactly. Let's, let's think of the alien invasion.
00:35:52.860
That card now has a completely different light.
00:35:55.020
Now I've got, I've got, when you're done, I've got, I've got the perfect movie segway.
00:35:59.100
That's yeah, but it has to be seen now in a completely different light.
00:36:02.940
You can't just take it for granted that, oh, well, it's just some, some silly idea,
00:36:08.060
or it's just some evil plan to the antichrist is going to pull or something like that.
00:36:12.060
I don't think so. I think we have to consider where is Jesus now?
00:36:16.780
Because it doesn't say he leaves necessarily or his kingdom ends.
00:36:20.460
It's just that he kind of hands over the earth to Satan during that time.
00:36:26.460
In Revelation chapter 20, like there's a threat, there's a thousand years.
00:36:30.220
And the real, the, I think the big distinction in the thousand years is
00:36:33.180
Satan is bound for a thousand years. He lets him out and he allows him to deceive.
00:36:39.420
Yeah. Don't. Yeah. So I, I, we're all on that belief that, but yes.
00:36:44.460
So this is after Jesus that there's been a trial.
00:36:47.340
Jesus has reclaimed the birthright of a birth of humans. So this is his,
00:36:51.820
but they still, that, that part always bothered me. It was like,
00:36:54.700
so then you're going to let this guy still run free. But then after a thousand years,
00:37:00.620
I think that's the, I think that's what we said. A lot of us who have researched this,
00:37:03.980
especially who've like, who believes the, the futurist view that all this stuff is about to
00:37:09.580
happen. When you read revelation 20, I said, I've, I always struggled with that. Wait a minute. So he
00:37:15.340
throws, so after Armageddon, they throw the beast and the false prophet in the lake of fire,
00:37:21.900
but they take the devil and stick him in the bottomless pit. And then he's allowed to come
00:37:26.620
out again. I always thought like, why doesn't he just throw him in the lake of fire too? And then
00:37:31.900
how does he deceive the nations? If Jesus is ruling, like everyone thinks he's going to rule.
00:37:36.940
And I think that's why we're asking these questions of like, well, if he deceives the nations again,
00:37:41.660
maybe it's not as simple as everyone thinks it's going to be. Because everyone is so sure that,
00:37:46.140
well, I'm not going to be tricked. And it's like, well, he deceives the nations to make war
00:37:51.340
against Jesus and the saints. An unwinnable battle. You know, like, obviously he can't win.
00:37:55.980
He knows he can't win. Like he knows all this stuff's going to happen, but he, but yet he still
00:38:01.100
tricks the nations to go fight against Jesus anyways. Well, this is the point. Fighting against
00:38:06.300
Jesus is the actual end game of the Bible of revelation. You know, it's after the thousand
00:38:10.620
years Satan's released. He gathers an army after deceiving all of the nations to make war with the
00:38:17.100
camp of saints. That's what it says. Now, now we're starting to talk in the realms of cosmic
00:38:22.060
battles here beyond biblical galactic proportions, you know, we're talking about alien stuff.
00:38:29.020
I think top's about to go to the same place that I'm about to go. Go ahead.
00:38:31.740
Maybe not. But what does this do? So if we're past the tribulation and we're past
00:38:35.820
the first return of Christ, what does that do to the Jews? What are we talking about with these people
00:38:41.340
here? Oh, you want to go there? I'll say that I would say that biblically that
00:38:47.580
that there's no Jew nor Greek, no slave, nor free. We're all one in Christ Jesus. So
00:38:52.300
so that the people who try to talk about replacement theology, if the covenants have been replaced,
00:38:58.380
there's no way to the father except through Jesus. So obviously the people in that land,
00:39:02.700
whoever they're related to, they still need Jesus. And they're not God's chosen people when they're in
00:39:08.140
open rebellion against him. I mean, I think that's the thing. It's like the modern church is is so
00:39:14.380
woefully wrong about the things Jesus was saying when he was saying them. That's why when Jesus,
00:39:19.980
like I said, I posted a clip on my my Instagram yesterday. It was like from the movie Jesus of
00:39:24.140
Nazareth. And so when Jesus is telling the Pharisees, you guys are going to hell, like,
00:39:29.020
how are you going to escape damnation? You see these stones in this temple? There'll be not one left
00:39:33.980
upon another. And he's saying in this generation, this is going to happen. Like literally, that's
00:39:38.540
what Matthew 24 is about. The apostles say when. And so because of all the things, and obviously,
00:39:45.260
then he gets into the parables, how they kill God's son. What's what's the what's what's God going to do?
00:39:52.220
He's going to take their vineyard and he's going to give it to others.
00:39:56.540
Like that's why he's saying that's that's the abomination of desolation is that they nailed God's
00:40:02.860
son to a cross. And then what happens after that? Judgment comes in 70 AD. All of the things Jesus
00:40:09.900
said were going to happen happened. Then after that, you have the persecution of the early church.
00:40:14.940
All the things happen. It's like that was the great tribulation that people are like looking for
00:40:20.300
when they're saying, I wonder when there's going to be a one world government. There was a one world
00:40:23.660
government back in Jesus day. It was called Rome, right? That was the beast. I believe that that
00:40:30.780
was the beast. The harlot, the the scarlet woman was Jerusalem. She's the one who was made desolate,
00:40:36.860
was burned by fire by the beast who hated her. I mean, like all those things have happened. And I
00:40:42.540
think that so what we're seeing today, I believe that most of the things we're talking about is this
00:40:50.060
is the tail wagging the dog. So it's like putting out a carrot of some kind of future eschatology.
00:40:56.380
Oh, look, they're going to build a third temple. Oh, maybe their Antichrist is going to go into it. Oh,
00:41:00.140
maybe this is going to happen. Maybe, maybe it's Nephilim, Tucker Carlson, like he's kind of hinting at
00:41:05.420
these things that could be end times things. When we're looking over here, when the real thing is like,
00:41:13.020
they're talking about stuff in the North Pole, like they're going to be World War Three at the North Pole,
00:41:17.180
when we get further into this. Like that could, that could literally be where,
00:41:22.860
where's Jesus at? He could be somewhere in the North. The Bible talks about the North Mount Zion.
00:41:28.380
People talk, you know, tie that into the North Pole, Rupus Negra. Like that's why our compasses point
00:41:32.940
north and, and all the things it's like that you're looking for certain signs. But that's, that could be
00:41:41.340
maybe why, when it really is toward the end, people won't even believe it because they'll be
00:41:47.020
like, wait a minute, an Antichrist hasn't been revealed yet. Where's the mark of the beast? This,
00:41:51.500
this can't be the end because these prophecies have not been fulfilled. The, the gospel hasn't been
00:41:59.420
preached throughout the whole nations. Even though in Colossians three, was it no Colossians 123? It says
00:42:05.180
that every creature under heaven has heard the gospel. Like, so literally in the Bible,
00:42:11.020
it already says that happened. And, but people are teaching people in churches that, you know,
00:42:15.580
these things need to happen and then Jesus can come back. So if you see, so Jesus are a waste of time.
00:42:21.580
What's that? Missionaries are a waste of time. And I agree. Well, I think most people, I mean,
00:42:25.900
obviously the best you can reach people is your own community. I mean, you still, people still need to
00:42:30.300
know. But, but the point is, is like that when it, when it comes to certain things need to happen,
00:42:36.860
those things happen and they happened a long time ago. Like, and I'm, and I, I, so I think that that's
00:42:42.220
the main part is like that when you see something so on the nose, like the red heifers. So like, literally
00:42:47.980
they're talking about the red heifers going, being sent over to, you know, Israel. And that, that's what
00:42:54.700
caused the war in Gaza now. Really? The, the cows caused this war? Well, wasn't there some
00:43:01.660
representative of Hamas that said that part of the reason that they flew people in on paper airplanes
00:43:07.100
was because of the red heifer prophecy or something to that extent? Yes. That's what I'm saying. Like,
00:43:12.620
it doesn't that seem like it's a little bit on the nose where like, I can get behind the idea. Like,
00:43:16.940
as you guys are saying this, um, the way I look at things as they unfold is like, oh, I see the poetry
00:43:23.340
in that. And that would not, that would be because if you start to look at the story of mankind as like
00:43:29.660
the greatest story ever told, then you kind of go like, oh, okay, I can see that happening. Right.
00:43:35.100
So when you're talking about, um, you know, especially what Paul mentioned before, which I
00:43:41.660
found fascinating was Tartaria being evidence of Jesus having already been here. Uh, that Tartaria has
00:43:53.180
never, people find it fascinating and I, and I agree. Sure. It's fascinating. It does nothing for
00:43:58.780
me until you said that. Then all of a sudden I'm like, Tartaria just became one of the most
00:44:03.660
fascinating things to me ever. Whereas before I couldn't get, give less of a care about it at all.
00:44:09.100
It's just not possible. I really didn't. It just never resonated. People said, oh, you should have
00:44:12.940
somebody, uh, that does Tartaria have them on the show. Doesn't do anything for me. I'm not interested.
00:44:17.580
However, that angle becomes entirely fascinating. I wonder not to, you know, derail too much, but
00:44:26.540
is what sort of evidence have you found that supports this idea? Either, either one of you,
00:44:31.180
I don't know which one of you guys has done more on this Tartaria topic.
00:44:35.660
We've both done a lot. And what I can do is I can just, um, I can read to you the words of Jesus
00:44:42.780
himself, first of all, and just, this is the biblical evidence we have, the scripture we have,
00:44:47.660
which, which basically explains that even Jesus himself was saying, I am coming back very soon,
00:44:54.140
not in 2000 years. So first of all, the, these are the basics. Okay. So I'll just read to you, um,
00:45:05.740
verily I say unto you, there'll be some standing here which shall not taste of death till they see
00:45:11.420
the son of man coming in his kingdom. Now that's pretty straightforward. You know, Mark 9, 1,
00:45:19.340
and he said unto them, verily I say unto you that there'll be some that stand here which shall not
00:45:24.060
taste of death till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power. So another perspective,
00:45:30.460
same thing, Luke 9, 27. But I tell of you the truth, there'll be some standing here that shall
00:45:36.380
not taste of death till they see the kingdom of God. Matthew 10, 23. But when they persecute you in
00:45:44.300
this city, flee ye to another. For verily I say unto you, ye shall not have gone over the cities of
00:45:51.660
Israel till the son of man become. So that's pretty, that's pretty sudden. That's not in 2000 years.
00:45:59.580
That's like, like a thief in the night. Yeah. Well, yeah. That's within these dudes lifetimes.
00:46:04.860
Like some of these people standing here are going to live to see this. Well, I mean, it's like the,
00:46:09.580
it's obviously the implication that some of them will be dead before he comes back. So it's right.
00:46:13.820
Like, so when, so when people try to say, some people will say, oh, he's talking about the
00:46:17.740
transfiguration, which literally it's like the next chapter. They go up, they see a glorified version
00:46:22.300
of Jesus. Like he shows them, it kind of reveals what he actually looks like. And they'll say, oh,
00:46:26.540
that's what he was talking about. But nobody's dead at that point. No, like that's not a king.
00:46:31.180
That's not a kingdom. No, it's not. No, as well. And he's pretty clear with his language here.
00:46:35.500
He repeats it three times in three of the different synoptic gospels here. This is not
00:46:39.260
like just a, a throwaway comment at Romans three, 11 through 13. And that knowing the time that now it
00:46:47.260
is high time to wake out of sleep for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
00:46:55.020
It's right around the corner. That's Paul telling you, it's about to happen. You time is extremely
00:47:00.620
short, right? This is not for a generation in the future. First Peter four, seven, but the end
00:47:06.380
of all things is at hand. Be therefore sober and watch unto prayer. So right around the corner in first
00:47:13.100
Peter, um, you know, this generation shall not pass till all these things are fulfilled. That's
00:47:18.860
Matthew 24, 34. This generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled. All,
00:47:26.060
all these things, all of them. Matthew 23, um, all these things shall come upon this generation.
00:47:34.540
Uh, for Luke 21, 22, for these be the days of vengeance that all things which are written may be
00:47:41.420
fulfilled. These are the days, not millennia, not centuries, not decades. These are the days.
00:47:50.140
It's coming now. There's a very, very immediate, uh, no, it says here in Matthew 26, 64, Jesus told
00:47:57.340
Caiaphas that he himself would see Jesus coming in the clouds of heaven. He's telling this priest,
00:48:03.740
you will see me come back with my kingdom in the end. You'll be alive to witness it happening. Now,
00:48:10.460
if we go off the futurist eschatology that all of that is just symbolic and he was talking about us
00:48:15.180
now living during the time of Facebook and Twitter and social media, you know, and it's kind of,
00:48:20.140
you're making Jesus out to be a liar because he was not lying when he said he meant it. I'm coming in this
00:48:25.100
lifetime. You will see me. The time is at hand. It is now. I have come to end all things now.
00:48:31.740
That's why I'm here. You know, was it even in the book of Daniel? So Daniel gets the end times
00:48:37.580
prophecy and Gabriel tells him, shut up the words of this prophecy until the times of the end.
00:48:44.380
So when Jesus is in the, when Jesus is out there preaching in Matthew 24, he's quoting from Daniel.
00:48:49.980
So shut up this prophecy till the end. And then Jesus is quoting from it. And then the book of
00:48:54.540
Revelation chapter 22, it says, do not seal up this prophecy because the time is at hand.
00:49:00.700
That's 22, 10. Yeah. And he also says at the start of Revelation, Revelation 1, 1, things which must
00:49:08.060
shortly come to pass. Yeah. Okay. And obviously all the tribulation stuff we have is in Revelation.
00:49:15.340
So the very first line in the book that these futurists are basing their futurist eschatology
00:49:20.860
upon tells them it was shortly coming to pass during the time it was written by John in Patmos.
00:49:27.100
You know, it says, it says here, Revelations 1, 3. The time is at hand.
00:49:31.900
Revelations 1, 7. Behold, he cometh in the clouds and every eye shall see him.
00:49:37.020
And they also which pierced him. Those who pierced him with the spear on the cross will also see him.
00:49:43.740
Yeah. Maybe like the, maybe like the Romans and the Jews, like who did it.
00:49:48.220
Can I, this is something that I, I think is actually fascinating to your point is that
00:49:54.060
the narrative with Tartaria is that, you know, the Tartarians were this advanced civilization and
00:50:01.500
any remnants of their civilization was destroyed in an effort to wipe these people from the history
00:50:06.460
books. And when you consider the scale of the Tartarian empire and how much work had to be put
00:50:13.900
into destroying this entire empire so that nobody would notice it. You know, I, that to me is like,
00:50:21.500
well, maybe, but if you go, somebody had a vested interest in hiding the evidence that the kingdom
00:50:28.220
of God was here, like, okay, that is a much more, that's a task that merits the level that they
00:50:37.020
would have had to have gone through. You know what I mean? Like, it's one thing to try to erase the
00:50:40.140
people from the history books and you go like, man, that's kind of a lot to do. And for what?
00:50:45.580
We now know the Tartarians existed or, you know, the Tartarians, uh, we now know they existed and,
00:50:50.700
and to what end? What, what secret were they hiding that was so important that now that we know they
00:50:55.820
existed is virtually changed nothing. Right. But this, this would change everything. This would
00:51:02.700
make this unbelievable deception that is coming down the pipe, um, fall apart. Right. Because
00:51:10.380
if, if the evidence was everywhere that this already happened, well, then you wouldn't be able to trick
00:51:15.260
people. So in order to, you know, for Satan to, to deceive people in this times, it's like, yeah,
00:51:20.380
we have to wipe out this massive empire. That was like a lot of people who are into Tartaria would
00:51:27.180
tell you this is the biggest empire that ever existed or, or, you know, as far as they've
00:51:31.660
discovered to this extent so far, who knows how much hasn't been discovered. What does it mean?
00:51:36.540
What does it mean when he says that, uh, God will rule with an iron rod for these thousand years?
00:51:41.900
Well, this is the argument. Like, was he talking about a physical rule on earth or is it a spiritual
00:51:47.980
one? And this is where a lot of Christians differ and argue about what it meant to have a millennial
00:51:52.860
reign. And now there's, there's, there's a kingdom, an eternal kingdom, and then there's a millennial
00:51:57.900
reign on earth a thousand years. Now that's finite. A thousand years, last I checked, has a beginning and
00:52:03.580
an end. It starts with one, it ends with a thousand. It's not an infinite kingdom that goes on forever,
00:52:07.740
everlasting as the eternal kingdom of Jesus Christ actually is in heaven, but in the right hand of
00:52:13.340
God, the throne of God, you know, it's, it's, that's the two different things. And I think a lot of,
00:52:18.060
a lot of Christians conflate the two together and they believe when Jesus came, um, you know,
00:52:23.740
to establish his millennial reign, that was to establish an eternal kingdom and that everything
00:52:28.780
will be perfect forever once he comes and everything's perfect. And there's nothing else happens
00:52:32.780
after that. Full stop done. Let's close the book. Let's not keep reading revelation and see what it says in the
00:52:36.860
end. They, a lot of people have believed and have been preached that once Christ returns,
00:52:42.220
everything's perfect forever done. Nothing else happens, you know, but what the book tells you is,
00:52:47.020
you know, there's a, there's a physical rule of some kind in which the saints will rule for a thousand
00:52:53.020
years with Christ. There's a resurrection that takes place. And it seems like these saints are
00:52:57.580
resurrected, you know, the martyrs for Christ. And it seems like there's thousands of them from what we're
00:53:02.300
gathering. The number is quite large, but it's not in, it's not in the millions, you know,
00:53:07.900
it's a, it's a, it's a group that is enough to rule the earth and kind of be like bishops or
00:53:14.460
generals for Christ in his kingdom. You know, they're just below him. They're his knights,
00:53:18.460
could you say? They're the ones that he has given authority over lands and places for. And you find all
00:53:24.460
these cathedrals there are named after saints, you know, primarily. And it's possible that those were the
00:53:30.300
hubs where they would dominate and rule over specific areas on behalf of Jesus who appeared
00:53:35.580
to be in some very literal sense, ruling on earth as a king, as, as a ruler with an iron rod,
00:53:43.020
not as like a voted in representative of humanity as a ruler, you know, a despot. If there ever was
00:53:50.940
one, essentially he is, he is in control. He is in charge. He is the boss. It's his way or the highway
00:53:56.780
situation. You know, it's not like a, oh, well you can, you can do what you want and there's no
00:54:01.180
consequences. I'm an easygoing leader. You know, this is, this is Jesus come to establish his law
00:54:05.820
on earth. And it's kind of, if you don't go my way, there's consequences. And we can read in other
00:54:10.940
scriptures in there. I think it's, is it Zaphaniah? I can't remember. I've got it written down somewhere,
00:54:15.260
but it's talking of a time where, you know, Christ will rule on earth and people will have to make
00:54:20.060
pilgrimages to go and see him. And at least once a year, they'll have to go up to Mount Zion
00:54:26.540
and pay, pay respects to him as, as the king, as God, as, as, as king on earth. And those nations
00:54:33.420
who do not make the pilgrimage will suffer extreme droughts. There are consequences for not going
00:54:39.100
along with it. And we find vast swaths of the earth that are just tundra deserts all over the place.
00:54:45.340
Is it possible these are the nations who didn't make those pilgrimages? And we're just seeing
00:54:48.860
the remnants of extreme droughts for these times. He seems like he did have a physical rule of some
00:54:55.500
kind, but then people argue, well, he was actually ruling from heaven in some kind of weird ethereal
00:55:00.940
sense in Mount Zion. It wasn't, you couldn't actually see it, you know, and people try and make excuses,
00:55:05.660
but from what the evidence is that we seem to be uncovering is, no, this was a literal thousand year
00:55:11.620
physical kingdom that was established on the earth. Infrastructure was built, canals were built,
00:55:17.640
cities were built, which are magnificent. Make no sense. You know, they make no sense.
00:55:23.000
Yeah. Like they do not fit them. People with horses and buggies should not have built these.
00:55:27.720
So can I make two points to that then? There, there, there are two things that I want to say,
00:55:31.640
both of them contribute to this. One is the existence of these, you know, these Gothic cathedrals,
00:55:36.600
which all it takes is just a lie to, you know, in, in regards to when they were erected, they have a
00:55:42.040
geometry to them. And a, and a structure is such that we've, we've lost the ability to build
00:55:48.120
structures like this. Uh, one of the most famous stories, uh, you know, regarding these Gothic
00:55:53.400
cathedrals is that, um, a woman who was recording the sound of the organ playing within the cathedral,
00:55:59.720
then, uh, took that music and plugged it into a resonance plate where you put salt on it. And all
00:56:05.160
of a sudden the salt arranges itself into the same geometric pattern that the windows of the
00:56:09.480
cathedral. How do we even, we do not have the ability to do that. Although if you're talking
00:56:14.600
about the kingdom of God, uh, then all of a sudden that starts to plug in. Well, and the other thing
00:56:19.240
that I think lends itself to this is I'm having like a little bit of a crisis as you guys are
00:56:22.520
talking. Cause I'm like, we're doing an entire book of revelation series. I was like, should we
00:56:27.880
throw this thing out? I'm just going to throw it away. Re-examine it. I did, I did warn you.
00:56:35.160
I did try. I mean, for us, it's fantastic for the audience. I'm sure they're having strokes.
00:56:39.400
There's a lot of, a lot of people screaming into their, uh, to their radios.
00:56:42.680
Yes, yes, exactly. But you know, the other thing, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
00:56:47.800
He has no idea. This show, the show Nephilim death squad is like, if you have information,
00:56:52.440
we want you to come and share it. And this is, this is biblical information. I'm open to hearing it.
00:56:56.600
If you change my mind, that then screw me. Right. But if you don't, then think, yeah, I mean,
00:57:05.640
Go ahead. Oh, wait, you said you had one more thing. Go ahead.
00:57:07.800
Well, the other thing is that I, from where I'm sitting, recognize that it looks as though
00:57:13.400
the elites, right? For lack of a better term, whatever the hell you want to call them,
00:57:16.680
are manufacturing end times prophecy. There are things that are happening that are coming to pass
00:57:24.040
that I recognize as being manufactured and blatantly. And so I go for a while, I kind of go, well,
00:57:31.800
you know, maybe there is this desire to almost be an acceleration is maybe if you can bring about
00:57:40.040
the end times, then knowing when it can happen, or at least forcing it to happen will give you
00:57:45.640
somewhat of an upper hand, even though we know how the story ends. But like this makes a lot more sense.
00:57:51.400
You're manufacturing end times prophecy so that to the average person, it looks as though we are
00:57:58.840
experiencing, you know, uh, the book of revelation manifesting in our generation.
00:58:05.400
That is so they, they manipulate people through fear, right? So like, again, as I was saying,
00:58:10.840
but with Tucker is like, so if you don't believe in aliens, well, I can make you afraid. You believe
00:58:15.080
in demons, don't you? Don't you believe in, in fallen angels? Hey, I could, we could do that too.
00:58:20.600
So I, what I want to say, go back to one thing you said though, is that I'm, I'm in the same,
00:58:25.320
I'm on the same page with you. The, the, the mud flood, Tartaria, the old world buildings,
00:58:30.600
whatever you want to call it, did not move me until it's like, it's the, it's the why that matters.
00:58:37.080
Why would they lie about that? And I said, if you, and if you have looked into Tartaria or
00:58:41.800
old world mud flood, the, the long, the, the rabbit hole is deep and it's obviously it's,
00:58:47.320
there's in trying to piece this together is difficult. But what we know is there was something
00:58:51.720
that happened probably late 1700s, maybe early 1800s. We're not really sure about the timeline,
00:58:57.800
but it looked like there was some kind of cataclysm. That's why buildings are like buried.
00:59:01.640
The first couple of floors are buried. Sometimes it's like six feet. Sometimes it's like literally
00:59:05.000
like there's like places like Seattle, there's like undergrounds, Atlanta, there's underground,
00:59:10.600
all these West coast, the timeline that makes no sense around the West coast.
00:59:15.320
Well, you, every city in America had a great fire. Like you could look them up,
00:59:20.440
they all burned down, but they all got built again very fast. The, the architecture makes no sense.
00:59:26.360
And there was insane asylums back in the 1800s and 1900s. Like that,
00:59:31.240
that we don't have anymore. There was 150,000 people in the same asylums,
00:59:35.720
250,000 kids on orphan trains. And it was like, so what, so what we,
00:59:41.240
what the people who believe in just the mud flood and don't believe what we're saying about this,
00:59:47.240
they would agree with us that something bad happened that they don't write about in our
00:59:50.440
history books. And they tried to cover up literally, they're willing to burn books.
00:59:54.680
They're willing to destroy buildings like demo the best buildings you,
00:59:57.640
you've either seen or never seen because they don't exist anymore.
01:00:02.120
they were willing to throw people into sane asylums for religious fanaticism.
01:00:07.080
Right. And quickly to that point, why not, if it was just to delete, uh,
01:00:11.000
the history of a people co-op the buildings and lie about the history. It's like,
01:00:17.400
They've done that. But I think on a, on a large scale, if you left the footprint of,
01:00:21.160
of, of, you know, what you imagine would be the grandiose level of, of, of,
01:00:25.480
you know, Christ kingdom, uh, that would be a lot of explaining to do.
01:00:29.080
You can explain away a couple of buildings, co-op them and say, no, this was,
01:00:32.040
you know, Greek architecture, whatever. But, but that,
01:00:36.200
Well, yeah, but if you, but if you believe all the things that, like I said,
01:00:39.400
you believe all the things they were willing to do to hide this previous,
01:00:44.040
more advanced civilization, like, so what would they be willing to, like,
01:00:49.560
what would they be trying to hide? And then, so you think about what would be
01:00:53.000
the biggest thing ever? What, what would make all the other conspiracy theories
01:00:57.160
pale a comparison? The fact that Jesus came back, he had a kingdom, he had an epic,
01:01:03.880
there was, there was, we, we reached a peak of civilization at some point and now
01:01:08.840
we're on the downward slope and the controllers, the elites, they trade,
01:01:13.960
they tried to take credit for stuff and the stuff that they, the advancements in technology
01:01:19.240
are literally them just kind of re-releasing old tech as stuff that they created.
01:01:23.800
It's the biggest one, guys. It's the biggest conspiracy.
01:01:26.360
Why only a thousand years? And then like, why only a thousand years? And then also,
01:01:30.520
again, just to bring it back to the, to the Jewish stuff, if this all already happened,
01:01:35.320
the Jewish stuff doesn't matter. So this is just another op, whatever's going on
01:01:39.080
in Israel. Cause it does feel like an op at this point, especially like we're, we're being
01:01:42.840
ginned up for, for really no reason at all. If this is not even on the table anymore, we're moving
01:01:48.360
in a different direction. That's a great point. You and I talk about it all the time. It's like,
01:01:51.400
well, why are they suddenly allowing us to hit the apex of noticing? Why is it culturally being
01:01:57.000
pushed in it? Cause it doesn't matter, but it's a, it's a, it's a red herring. It throws you,
01:02:01.160
this is messing. Please go, go. Right around the same time that they came up with the rapture
01:02:06.600
theology that I don't believe is biblical. They came up with the support Israel, no matter what
01:02:12.360
theology, where like, if you read your Bible, God didn't support Israel, no matter what,
01:02:16.920
like, I mean, just read it. Like, so the idea that like, if you, if you find things that are
01:02:22.280
unseemly happening with Netanyahu and his government, like as a Christian, you're supposed to not talk
01:02:30.040
about that. You're supposed to not care about that. You're supposed to not try to hold them
01:02:33.480
to a certain standard, like everybody else has held to. Isn't it kind of the perfect cover that
01:02:38.680
if you know who established that nation in 1948, the families who established that nation, who own that
01:02:45.480
land. Well, isn't it kind of the perfect cover to do whatever you want? And then you have the
01:02:52.840
evangelicals, you have the government, you have everybody else saying, calling like literally willing
01:02:58.680
to call you a racist, a heretic, whatever else, if you don't go along it. Yeah. You support terrorism
01:03:06.280
if you're not for this. So yeah, it allows them to do all kinds of things that the West will just
01:03:13.800
not even look. And then literally they'll show college kids and say, look at these idiots supporting
01:03:18.520
terrorism. Look, they're crying. They're getting pepper sprayed over here. And you're like,
01:03:23.880
it's like you guys, like the people that think they're awake, they don't even realize that they're
01:03:28.360
still asleep because it's like they were they were awake during 2020. Right. And they were awake
01:03:33.000
during Ukraine versus Russia. But now they're like following the news lockstep and they don't even
01:03:39.000
realize it. It's like I said, it it's them manifesting. And I guess when they start throwing
01:03:43.880
in the red heifer stuff saying, oh, the reason they're fighting is because they don't want them
01:03:49.640
to build the third temple for the Antichrist to go into to declare that the end times are here.
01:03:54.920
Hmm. It's almost as though like they were also trying to make it seem like prophecy is still
01:03:58.840
being fulfilled, if you get what I mean. So it's like, you know, the current state nation
01:04:02.360
state of Israel when it was established in 1948. This is the promise made to Abraham that the father's
01:04:08.360
fulfilled, you know, that they're going to give the land back to them. But if you actually look into
01:04:11.960
it, that was that was already done a long time ago. I've written it down here, you know,
01:04:15.240
in the Old Testament in Deuteronomy, Joshua and Jeremiah and Nehemiah, you know,
01:04:21.240
it's explained clearly that, you know, King David and Solomon were in possession of the whole land
01:04:25.800
up into the river Euphrates as promised to Abraham. It was already is they already had the land
01:04:31.080
a long time ago. And they returned after Babylon. So they were like, they also got it back again in
01:04:36.760
the times of Jesus in which like they tried to wipe out the whole idea that that the second temple
01:04:41.400
period ever happened. And so like, yeah, that that's, that's, that's happened too. But it's also,
01:04:47.240
they lost it again after rejecting Jesus and Jerusalem was destroyed in 70, 80, you know,
01:04:52.680
to this, to this point about David, is it possible that we're missing a thousand years?
01:04:56.920
Like perhaps like time has been, oh yeah, our calendar has been messed up.
01:05:00.520
Well, I think that that's what people have really, really struck. I think, I think that a lot of
01:05:04.280
history, you can, I'm not saying you can trust it, but you can, it's before like the last couple
01:05:10.840
hundred years. But it does seem like that some people, you know, they, they point out that there was a
01:05:15.880
J or there was an I and it was, it wasn't really, they, they made it into a one. They literally
01:05:20.600
added a thousand years or, or some people say they took it out. I don't think it's quite that simple,
01:05:25.320
but I do think that the timeline likely has been stretched out because that's why like there's,
01:05:32.200
there's clear evidence of like things that like are straight up out of the book of revelation that
01:05:37.720
happened in the first century. But there's things that happened after the first century that sound
01:05:41.240
just like the book of revelation, like, especially like, I think in like 536, go look this up.
01:05:46.040
If you guys get a second, the worst year ever where like the plague happened, famines happened,
01:05:51.320
like literally they were talking about 50, what 50, um, million people died.
01:05:57.320
The sun went, the sun went dark for like 18 months for 18 months. No, literally every volcano went off,
01:06:04.280
all land shifted. Millions of people were dying of the plague and were literally seeing demons before
01:06:09.960
they died. Like it was like literally, it was like literally like a third of the, I mean like
01:06:13.640
based on the numbers they give you about how many people lived in that year, it was like a third of
01:06:18.440
all the population died of the plague. Whoa. But then you go to the 1300s and we're told,
01:06:24.440
that sounds like the pale horse. We're told the exact same story about the 1300s and the black death
01:06:29.160
and the plague. If you actually look at the recounts and the history of that time, the plague was the
01:06:34.120
least of their problems. It was just one of the many horrible things that was happening during that time.
01:06:38.920
All across the world from China, where they say the plague came from through fleas on rats,
01:06:43.960
but China where everyone was dying in China horrifically and terrible things were happening and
01:06:48.280
famines and wars and just destruction and fire coming. It was horrible everywhere. And you look
01:06:53.480
at the description of 536 and then the description of 1300s, you realize, I think they're just talking
01:07:00.760
about the same events, but they separated into two different parts of history and claim that-
01:07:06.280
You know, the funny thing about the 536 though, is if you read, again, look this up,
01:07:12.680
they'll say that that's when people believe the dark ages started.
01:07:16.920
It says, so you think about it, like, light without brightness, like the moon during the whole year,
01:07:22.680
Yeah, there's a good YouTube video where it said that there was a, um, yeah, it was the Byzantine
01:07:28.680
empire starts, like, so the Roman empire ends and then this Christian empire starts during the dark
01:07:34.920
ages. Again, think about like when Isaiah, when it says, you know, they call good evil and evil,
01:07:40.200
good darkness, light and light darkness. So the dark ages that they created, the grand Gothic
01:07:46.920
cathedrals, all the crazy stuff in Europe. Yeah. That was the time of obviously just people not doing
01:07:52.520
much. Right. And then, but what if it wasn't the dark ages? What if it was the light ages?
01:07:59.560
But they literally call, of course, to invert it is, is, is Satan's agenda. And just to your point,
01:08:04.840
you just read that thing, uh, about the, the, it's like, how bullshit is climate change? If the,
01:08:09.960
at some point in history, the sun went like the moon for 18 months or whatever kind of crazy crap,
01:08:17.880
The question also, how are we measuring years in comparison to how they were intent, like,
01:08:22.920
intending us to measure a year, 365 days, we got leap years, we got all this kind of stuff.
01:08:27.000
They're saying it snowed in the winter in China. Um, the bubonic plague happened six years after this.
01:08:33.640
It's, this is crazy. I didn't, I didn't, I was not aware of this. I would have never made it.
01:08:38.200
You know what, you know, they, you know, they also established in, in that, right around that time,
01:08:43.400
the current way we, we dictate the years. Oh yeah. I mean, isn't it kind of crazy that
01:08:48.680
there was a time when obviously there was a small sect of Christians, right? And they were persecuted
01:08:53.320
and everyone hated them. Then one day they decided they're going to make it the law of the land.
01:08:59.000
You can't even be anything besides Christian in, in the Roman empire. And then they said,
01:09:03.640
we're going to decide to, you know, if you guys aren't aware, they weren't counting down to anything
01:09:09.560
back when they, before Christ came, but now they decided they established a timeline where
01:09:15.560
there's before Christ. And then there was, then there was AD, the year of our Lord.
01:09:20.760
It's insane. It's an insane, it's an insane proposition. Like everybody was counting down.
01:09:26.360
And everybody in the world just went along with that around 500.
01:09:30.920
And plus the Byzantine empire lasted a thousand years, but you're not really, you're not told
01:09:35.880
much about it. The dark ages lasted a thousand years, officially 500 to 1500. And this is around
01:09:43.160
the same time period where the enlightenment began, where people were leaving behind the dogmatic
01:09:49.160
Christian backwards, keeping us down and suppressed, stupid way of viewing things. And now we're going
01:09:54.680
through the scientific enlightenment, industrial revolution route, where mankind is going to take
01:09:59.720
control of knowledge and information and bring ourselves out of the dark ages and into the light.
01:10:05.560
This is Luciferian doctrine. Okay. This is, this is, this is the beginning and, and obviously dark to light,
01:10:11.480
right? It's inverting. They're inverting the truth. The truth is that the good times ended and the real
01:10:17.080
dark ages began and we're living in them. You know, to your point too, before about
01:10:21.320
manufacturing prophecy with this red heifer thing, which top and I covered pretty extensively,
01:10:26.440
it's a fascinating thing to watch. You know, on this show, we always say like, we're retarded.
01:10:30.280
We're not going to, if you believe us about what we're saying, you're, you follow, follow Christ.
01:10:33.880
Don't follow us. But, um, the, they did top, it might not correct. And like, there was basically
01:10:41.080
like a, a, a genetically modified operation, a different type of GMO to, to manufacture these,
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uh, red heifers. And there was an effort put forth as if you can take a sort of technology.
01:10:54.680
You can fool God, you can put up fishing around New York city and that will be your home abode.
01:10:59.000
And then you could do business in, uh, inside of your home on the Sabbath.
01:11:02.040
So once again, they're just, they're just doing this. It's like even the red heifer thing,
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which gripped us and, and gripped the world for those paying attention. And then, you know, kind
01:11:10.520
of just went away, uh, for a multitude of reasons. Um, it's like at the base of it, there's a farm
01:11:17.160
that they're like, they were trying to create perfect red heifers. You want to know something
01:11:22.520
crazy? I bring this up all the time and nobody's really an expert on it, but I feel like there's
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something significant with the boneyard, Alaska, this guy that was on Rogan. Oh yeah.
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You guys familiar? Oh, the man. Yeah. He dumped, didn't they say that they took like,
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how many tons, like 40 tons of mammoth bones and dumped them into like the East river in New York
01:11:41.240
city? Oh yeah. Well the Smithsonian, but the people who previously had owned that property
01:11:45.320
that he bought in Alaska, they were like, Hey, check this out. And they were giving it to the
01:11:49.080
Smithsonian and they dumped it in the East river. But the interesting part is that he is, uh, like
01:11:53.720
just burning through the permafrost with some water and finding endless mammoth bones. And then on,
01:11:59.640
on the episode with Rogan, if you listen to it, he's like, well, if we found anything else,
01:12:03.720
it would be illegal and the government would be able to come through and like seize the property.
01:12:07.640
So if they're finding human bones, then it becomes an archeological dig. It's not his property. So
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he's not going to admit that, but in five square acres, I'm sitting on 10, not that big in five
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square acres. He's burning through permafrost every day and finding more and more mammoth bones.
01:12:23.720
Like when, when they find dinosaur bones, we don't know what these things are. They're huge
01:12:28.120
bones and they find one here, one there. Could it be possible that there was a battle or something
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that took place? Because otherwise, why would all these mammoths or huge things, whatever they are,
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go to this one small spot and then die there? It makes no sense.
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Doesn't make any sense, dude. Oh God, you're right.
01:12:46.520
Unless this battle has happened already and it's something took place here. Something significant
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took place in Alaska. I don't know. That's, that's a good call. The other one is like,
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Paul, have you, you ever done any videos about the catacombs under under Paris? You guys ever
01:13:00.760
looked into that? No, I just taken them at face value, actually. Yeah, just a bunch of dead people.
01:13:06.040
That is the weirdest thing when, like you said, who's stacked all those bones in that underground
01:13:11.080
thing like that? It stretches for miles. It is so frightening. But you know, it's funny,
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as we were talking before about the mud flood, I was saying that this was what kind of blows my mind
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is like when I was focused on Nephilim stuff, we were talking about like before the flood mostly,
01:13:26.760
you know, then obviously we know there's Nephilim afterwards. But you know, the real story of like
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the Nephilim is like this golden age or which we would know is the days of Noah, which would be wicked.
01:13:36.840
But so a lot of people as Christians who believe in creation would say, oh, well, the dinosaurs lived
01:13:41.800
before the flood. Most of them probably died in there and that's how they became fossils.
01:13:45.720
But with this kind of new thought process, they actually say that like there's fossilized
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cowboy boots they found in the lake. It was like had somebody's leg in it.
01:13:54.280
I've heard stuff like that, dude. Yeah, the fossils. What if the fossils are not that old?
01:13:59.480
Because you know how fossils are created? Mud covers things very rapidly. There's evidence
01:14:06.680
that mud covered stuff very rapidly everywhere in the world. And I don't believe it was Noah's flood.
01:14:13.000
I believe it was something that happened way later than that. And it's like, so, you know,
01:14:16.760
it's funny the way that the story goes, at least even the even the way the mainstream tells it.
01:14:21.320
Oh, well, they didn't start finding dinosaur bones until the 1800s.
01:14:25.080
Well, maybe because there wasn't a bunch of fossils everywhere until
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Oh, that's a great way of explaining that, right? Because it's like, what did nobody ever dig before?
01:14:37.960
And it's like, well, they just weren't there to find until a rapid mud flood happened.
01:14:42.120
Let me ask you, because as we near this time, it does feel like we're reaching,
01:14:46.760
uh, like we're coming, we're reaching this culmination, this apex, something is going to
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happen. And, and we've been saying the Nephilim are going to return. They've returned already.
01:14:55.640
What happens here at the end? I know Jesus comes back and with a sword, he slices down his enemies.
01:15:00.520
But like, are we, do you think we're going to see a replication of what happened before we're,
01:15:06.200
you know, dragons, uh, literal demons, like a theatrical, almost like a theatrical version of
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it, right? Like it's going to take place, but not, it's not going to be the actual one, but it's going
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to convince us that we're somewhere in the timeline where we aren't. No, I mean, I don't know. It might
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actually happen again. Like, I don't know what's left to fight, but you know, you know, in a way,
01:15:27.640
in a way you have, you have to remember what Nephilim actually are. They are the disembodied
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spirits of, of giants. Okay. Now they had, they've had many forms. I'm sure they, they had the original
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form when they were first born, where they were just tyrannical giants, subjugating people before
01:15:42.600
the flood of Noah. They all wiped each other out in horrible, bloody battles as a punishment for the
01:15:47.240
watchers who had to watch their own children, kill each other for creating them. And then humans
01:15:52.440
started messing with their own genetics and Nephilimifying themselves and merging themselves with animals.
01:15:56.920
And then you get Chimerid hybrids like mermaids and centaurs and all the other mythical creatures
01:16:00.920
being created just before the flood. Then a flood comes. No doubt the mermaids lived through the
01:16:06.920
flood. Probably wasn't a problem for those fish people. No problem at all. So humans who corrupted
01:16:11.480
themselves maybe through, but most of the Nephilim were dead. Then the Nephilim came back after the
01:16:15.720
flood in a new form somehow through, and we can argue to the end of days how that happened, but we know
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it did happen. Could have been the mermaids. Maybe, but the giants were still around after the flood and then
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they had that form. And then they were all killed through the culling of the lands of Canaan by
01:16:29.240
Israel as they were reclaiming the holy lands for themselves as a promise to Abraham, you know,
01:16:33.880
all the rest of it. So, you know, they all died, but then the spirits became demons. Wandering spirits
01:16:40.520
trapped in the earth. And no doubt if you give them a body, they'll take it. And they're back in physical
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form. Kill the body. They're still stuck here on earth as a demon. They don't go anywhere. They wander in dry
01:16:51.720
places, looking for any vessel to inhabit whatsoever. That's the nature of a demon.
01:16:56.840
So even if they did come back just before Jesus establishes millennial reign, as it was in the
01:17:02.360
days of Noah, so shall it be in the coming of the son of man, as we are told, then yes,
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there probably was an event during the tribulation period where it looked like the Nephilim were back
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again, which is something you're obviously trying to talk about in your own series about the Nephilim
01:17:13.880
returning. But then once they're dead, they're still stuck on earth again, just disembodied.
01:17:18.840
It's an endless cycle for these things. There's actually no reason why they can't do it again
01:17:23.480
today, but probably through transhumanism means they're going to build a body for them
01:17:27.560
with a perfectly working human brain. You know, it's interesting though, to that point too,
01:17:31.480
that so what it says after Satan is released, he deceives the nations again, and then he gathers them
01:17:38.280
to war with Jesus in the camp of the saints. And it says, it mentions Gog and Magog, which
01:17:43.960
was kind of fascinating as Paul's across the pond. And if you've ever heard of London,
01:17:50.840
not London, London, Londonium, the old Roman city that's literally like in the runs,
01:17:57.240
the financial basically power of the whole world is in this small sect of London. It was called
01:18:03.400
Londonium. It was like a Roman city that never fell. And so they have this parade every year,
01:18:08.040
and they call it the Lord's mayor parade. And they have these two like statues or edifices to
01:18:15.160
Gog and Magog, two giants. Two giants. Yeah. I mean, it's like, when I learned that I was like,
01:18:22.360
you like, sometimes you do, you think you can't be shocked anymore, but you're like,
01:18:25.480
don't you guys know how the story goes? And supposedly like the mythology of this was like,
01:18:29.800
some king subjugated these giants to protect like the Isle of Britain or something like that.
01:18:35.000
And you're like, so, so is it, is it possible that some of these, some of these things could
01:18:40.920
be cyclical and it could be, could there be giants again toward the end of this? Yeah. I mean, I guess,
01:18:46.760
I guess the main thing is like, I, even I look back at the days of Noah line,
01:18:50.920
some people have said this and now I'm kind of almost more inclined to believe it. It's like,
01:18:54.040
when Jesus is saying, it's like that the day it'll be like the days of Noah when people were not aware,
01:18:59.080
even though they should have been, the judgment was coming. Cause that's literally what he's
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saying. It's like the repeating theme is I'm telling these people that this is going to happen.
01:19:08.040
I said, I said, you, when you guys read your, read the gospels again, just read how often they're
01:19:13.000
talking specifically about judgments coming soon and you need to repent. And so these people are
01:19:17.560
living like there's no tomorrow. I mean, well, they're like, they should be there. There is going
01:19:22.600
to be no tomorrow for them at some point, but they're living like that they got all the time in the world.
01:19:27.640
And then one day it starts to rain, you know, judgment comes. And, um, yeah, but I think,
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I think that, I think that that's like on the biblical timeline, if we are in the short season,
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it's similar in the way that some people would say, Oh, all this biblical prophecy is happening.
01:19:41.800
Oh, look, they're going to, they're forming a new world order or one world government.
01:19:46.200
Well, that fits both kinds of paradigms of like you thinking like an antichrist is going to run it.
01:19:50.600
But it's still, they're going to be this, this combination of nations that are going to all
01:19:55.960
do something bad together. And so some of those signs are the same. It's going to be,
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it's likely some kind of cyclical tyrannical thing where eventually God has to step in.
01:20:06.280
And otherwise, well, that's what happens. That's what happens, isn't it?
01:20:09.800
Everyone will suffer. Yeah. He gathers his army, Gog and Magog, and perhaps a good portion of that army
01:20:14.680
is the Nephilim and embodied once more in superhuman robotic bodies or something, just speculating wild,
01:20:21.560
wild speculation, who knows, but they've returned physically again, somehow to be a part of this
01:20:25.680
massive army. And it says whose numbers of the sands of the sea. Now that's more than the human
01:20:30.440
population, trillions upon trillions upon trillions of bodies here to make an army.
01:20:35.800
Yeah. Maybe, maybe it was, maybe they gave all those evil spirits. Yeah. Some kind of a form
01:20:41.560
to make it literally that the number of these, this army at the end for the final great war against
01:20:48.040
the camp of saints is unfathomable. It's not 9 billion humans. It's trillions upon multi hundred
01:20:53.720
of trillions, just numbers you can't comprehend. Can you imagine counting every grain of sand in our sea?
01:20:59.560
Think about that. You know, it's an impossible to comprehend number. But then when you imagine
01:21:05.000
just how many of these spirits are around, as well as human population by this point in time,
01:21:10.200
maybe it is an unfathomable large number, but then they make war with the camp of saints,
01:21:15.000
and then fire comes down from heaven and just ends it. It's over.
01:21:18.280
You don't have something. Okay. When you get a second, I want to, I want to go back to,
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I had a, I had a movie analogy and I think this is going to tie it all together.
01:21:25.960
Sure. Go ahead. Oh, what I was going to say is, so think about it. So we'll go back to
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Tucker Carlson talking about aliens that are not really aliens. They're spiritual beings.
01:21:37.320
Okay. Paul mentioned the one time about Satan's end game. Okay. You guys know where I'm going with
01:21:42.600
this. Thanos. So I did, I did a bunch of videos. And of course, in ancient angels, I talk about the
01:21:47.560
fact that, that they knows is really, he shows up. He says, I am, he's the most powerful being
01:21:54.200
in the universe. His ship is called the sanctuary. If you know, in the first infinity war movie,
01:21:59.160
he comes in, he establishes who he is. He says, I am shows the glove. And his goal is to snap his
01:22:06.120
fingers and make half a humanity disappear. He's trying to correct the universe. Right. And so what
01:22:12.040
happens at the end of the movie, he wins, right? Thanos snaps his fingers, half everyone, he wins.
01:22:18.280
And so his goal when he wins was to, to rest on rest, you know, like he was supposed to watch the
01:22:26.840
sunrise on a, on a grateful universe because he won. And so then the second movie starts end game
01:22:33.000
and they're like, well, where's Thanos at? You know where he, like his daughter knew where he was.
01:22:37.000
He's in the garden. So not only is his ship called the sanctuary, but he rested in the garden,
01:22:44.360
garden of Eden. And so it's, what's kind of fascinating about that movie is that
01:22:49.000
like what they tried to do, which I thought was kind of cheesy at the time. And now I kind of
01:22:53.160
maybe gain a new level of understanding about this. They have to use the quantum realm in order to go
01:23:00.280
change time. And they make a point in that movie to say, well, when you change time, it's not like
01:23:06.360
the Terminator. It's not like back to the future because the people's consciousness will be,
01:23:11.480
remain the same. Things will be different, but they'll, they'll still have their own memories.
01:23:16.920
And that's like, hello, the Mandela effect is what they're kind of talking about. It's like
01:23:21.320
that we have like, you know, in back to the future, everybody's, everybody's different when he gets back.
01:23:27.160
But if it was like real, like, well, I mean, if time travels real, he, they would show up and they'd be
01:23:32.120
like, what the heck happened? Like everything around me has changed. Obviously for the loom things,
01:23:38.600
like the monopoly. Oh, that's fascinating. All of this stuff. And so if you think about it,
01:23:43.480
so if the first Infinity War is a story of Armageddon, because like literally at the end of
01:23:48.680
the movie, they fight under a dome, right? They're fighting, they're fighting the last battle under a dome.
01:23:52.840
And Thanos wins. The second movie, he shows up and he literally says when they go, they go to fight
01:24:00.680
him again. Like, so like, you know, so like, obviously Jesus wins in Armageddon, right?
01:24:05.800
Things over. So the only way they can win is they had to go back and change things. And so they go
01:24:11.800
fight him again with all, everybody's back and they're all coming through portals at the end to fight,
01:24:16.760
to surround Thanos and his, you know, his armies. And what he tells them, he says,
01:24:22.360
what I've got to do this time is I have to wipe out everyone and start again.
01:24:28.040
Basically after Gog Magog, what does Jesus, what does God do? New heaven, new earth,
01:24:35.720
everything's made new again. And like, literally they say like that this, this, the previous universe
01:24:40.840
is not going to even remember because they're going to be gone. And it's like, so the whole story is
01:24:45.480
like that, what if this idea of this, the aliens coming is like Thanos. So like we're, we're
01:24:53.720
presented this alien threat coming. So what if the people thought, hey, this is either fallen angels,
01:25:01.320
this is some kind of, you know, some people actually think it's really aliens. And it's like,
01:25:05.960
a lot of people picture New Jerusalem, which it mentions in the book of Revelation, that descends
01:25:10.440
down. It's like, some people believe it's a floating city. What if, just like you see in
01:25:16.040
like movies like Independence Day, this thing shows up in a cloud. And the last thing, even
01:25:22.520
Christians in the pews would think, is this is actually Jesus, because they would say, well,
01:25:26.280
it can't be Jesus, because there haven't been a third temple yet. There's been no Antichrist,
01:25:32.600
the tribulation hasn't happened. So what do we have to do? We have to band together, as Ronald Reagan said
01:25:37.880
once, famously, we got to put away our differences. We got to go against the common goal. We got to
01:25:44.040
save humanity. We got to rally around this cause. We need to surround this thing and make war on it.
01:25:55.000
But guess what? If you go to fight against the alien, you might actually be going to make war against
01:26:03.640
Jesus himself. How about that? Oh, so whatever happens, guys, pray for discernment. Ask Christ.
01:26:15.480
Sorry, you do have to realize, though, that the idea that there's a city in the center of the earth is
01:26:22.120
And the idea that it's a floating city is also extremely common. I mean, Alpha Talks,
01:26:26.600
Alpha Talks are the great presentation just going through every single civilization and their obsession
01:26:31.080
with the center of the earth. Isn't there one with the Vedic religions where there's, like,
01:26:35.800
literally a city in the sky that just destroys the crap out of a bunch of things, right? Within the...
01:26:40.760
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the thing is, this is the point. It's been there since the millennial reign
01:26:46.040
ended. Jesus never left. He just went to this place in the middle, you know? Wasn't there a Marvel
01:26:51.320
movie where, like, they pick up an entire city and they're going to drop it? Right.
01:26:54.680
That was, yeah. That's in the age of Ultron, right? Oh, damn it.
01:26:59.640
Gosh, we got to use that clip. That's a good call, man.
01:27:03.240
You know, it's funny, even Ultron, he shows up, you know, he does, like, the crucifix pose,
01:27:07.320
you know, when he's talking? Yeah. In the speech. I mean, like, this stuff is not...
01:27:12.200
I got to go back and watch it all. I just want to... There's something I want to run by you guys.
01:27:16.440
We... You spoke before, Paul, about Satan amassing an army, right? This is... You mentioned it several
01:27:23.800
times during this episode. Top and I are very much into testimony. Testimony of people who have
01:27:30.760
had supernatural experiences. And what you'll find is that these people often have through-line patterns
01:27:38.760
in their experiences that one person will have in common with another, although they have no
01:27:43.800
connection to one another outside of their stories. And we actually interviewed someone who I know
01:27:51.160
we're trying to get back on. I'm not sure if we're making any leeway on that, but he claimed to have been
01:27:57.000
abducted and upgraded for a coming war. And I won't go through the details too much because we've talked
01:28:05.720
about it ad nauseum on this show, but the point is that concept is something that we have heard a lot
01:28:12.920
through supernatural paranormal testimony. But there are two types. One could be more deceptive than
01:28:22.600
the other, but we'll put that one to the side. There is one that seems overtly like people are having
01:28:28.280
these experiences in dreams or in visions where they are going to some sort of a cave and they're
01:28:35.080
being propositioned by someone who is a malevolent entity to join their side for a coming war,
01:28:44.760
almost like a recruitment process. And these stories are very believable if you can get past the fantastic
01:28:53.800
aspect of them and realize that they all share a certain commonality. And to Jerry Marzinski's point,
01:29:01.000
uh, uh, uh, Dr. Jerry Marzinski is a clinical psychologist, um, dealing with schizophrenia.
01:29:05.960
One of the things that he said is that these people are being told they're hallucinating
01:29:09.800
schizophrenic patients. Hallucinations don't adhere to patterns. And yet Dr. Jerry Marzinski has, uh,
01:29:16.680
boiled down about 23 reliable patterns that these, uh, these schizophrenic people will, will, uh,
01:29:24.120
experience. And so in that vein, um, I don't believe that these are just stories. I believe
01:29:29.720
that once there's a discernible string of patterns, there's a phenomenon happening. And I wonder,
01:29:35.560
because of course we've already speculated as to whether or not this is, uh, Satan amassing his army
01:29:40.280
and doing an actual recruitment process. What, what you guys, if you were presented with somebody that
01:29:45.720
you knew and, and, and told you like, Hey, this is what I experienced, what lens would you, would that
01:29:50.440
resonate with you in the same way? Well, it sounds to me like they're trying to propagate the idea
01:29:54.840
that there are good aliens versus the bad aliens and the good aliens are working through humanity
01:29:59.160
to help us ascend in our consciousness and connect with our spirit guides in the other realms or
01:30:03.560
whatever story they want to tell you. This is an old, an old thing, you know, and they all kind of have
01:30:08.360
varying similarities, but also vast differences. Are they aliens? Are they time travelers? Are they
01:30:15.080
ascended masters? Are they spirit guides? What are they? Well, they claim to be whatever the person
01:30:19.400
they're coming to will believe the most. So you know there's deception straight away by the fact
01:30:24.440
that they're not honest about what they actually are, but the message is always the same. Uh,
01:30:28.040
you take control of your own evolution. And often, like you said, um, we're here to help humanity
01:30:33.400
for a coming war of some kind. Um, now you have to remember if, if that's the game they're playing,
01:30:39.480
then they want people out there sharing their testimonies to prop, to propagate this idea that
01:30:44.120
there's some kind of galactic war about to go down and the good aliens want to help humanity
01:30:48.200
against the coming bad aliens. And as the Thanos analogy came there, the programming is telling us
01:30:53.000
that if, if, if something turns up that's out of this world and wants to destroy the world,
01:30:59.080
then it's a bad guy. Okay. Now, at the end of the day, Jesus comes to destroy the world and
01:31:05.000
create a new heaven on earth. Yeah. I mean, he would be, he would be the bad guy if you love this place.
01:31:09.400
He would love the world. If you love the earth, the world and the things of the earth and the physical
01:31:13.880
realm and don't have your eyes on heaven and the things after this life, then yeah, Jesus is a bad
01:31:19.160
guy. He's come to destroy it. He's come to end it, you know. For God so loved the world that he sent his
01:31:26.040
only begotten son. Yeah. Well, that you should have everlasting, ever have everlasting life, you know,
01:31:31.960
and not perish after this world is gone. You know, you should keep your eye on the eternal kingdom,
01:31:37.000
not the earth. Ecclesiastes makes it clear. Everything under the sun is vanity. Right. Isn't
01:31:42.280
there like, it doesn't the Bible warn of being, uh, in, in the world, but not of it. Yeah. Right.
01:31:47.960
It's like, well, if you love the things of the world, then the love of the father is not in you.
01:31:52.520
Of course, Jesus tells the apostles that those who would seek to save their lives will lose it. And
01:31:57.800
those who were willing to lose it for my sake will find it. So obviously that's like, that's the whole
01:32:02.360
thing where like, it's the flesh versus the spirit. So I think that like, everybody wants to go to
01:32:07.080
heaven. Nobody wants to die. But I think as Christians, we need to be willing to die to get
01:32:11.720
there because what we're, what we're being offered is much better than this. And I think that's kind
01:32:15.720
of the ultimate, I guess, show of like, how much do you really believe? You know, because it's like,
01:32:20.840
if I, if I, it's easy for me to sit in this chair comfortably and just chat with you guys and say,
01:32:24.520
I believe, but what if you really did have to go to go die for what you believed in? Because like,
01:32:29.800
you're literally, you're literally giving up all that you have because you believe there's
01:32:33.800
something more. But if you don't believe there's something more, well, then those are the people
01:32:38.520
are going to seek to save their lives in the end. And I said, obviously that's the whole thing where
01:32:43.160
it's like that some people would say, well, if, if Jesus is coming to do these things, well,
01:32:47.880
how is he good? It's like, because this place is wicked. You know, it's like, if like, as we were
01:32:53.000
talking about before, have you not been looking around? Right? Well, you would say that when you,
01:32:56.840
when you hear stories about like child sex trafficking and all the things that we, we claim
01:33:00.840
that we all believe what the elites do, we say, how, when is judge, like, when is this place going
01:33:07.800
to be made right? Because then when it comes to be made right, a lot of us are going to be like,
01:33:13.480
oh no. Right. Right. Well, like I said, because it's, because at some point,
01:33:18.040
God is not good if he's not just, and if there is like, so, because I think we, we watch the court
01:33:23.320
system, especially in the States. And we say, there, there's no justice here. So at some point,
01:33:29.720
people are going to be crying for justice. It's going to come and it's going to come,
01:33:33.880
but it's like, it's not in, you know, it's obviously, it's not in the form that people
01:33:36.680
would like it to be. No, no, no, not that kind of justice.
01:33:38.920
Is there another option where I get to keep my mansion over here? Like, is that that? Well,
01:33:51.320
that is, well, that is why people talk about the pre that's why people talk about the, that's why
01:33:56.280
people are so in, in love with the idea of a pre-trib rapture is don't worry, I'm going to be
01:34:02.840
gone. I was like, see you suckers. I'm going, I'm going up to the wedding feast with Jesus.
01:34:07.640
Well, the, the, the tribulation saints get their heads chopped off. I mean, like, that's like,
01:34:12.680
literally what you hear people talking on like TikTok. Oh, well, guess what? The eclipse is
01:34:17.000
coming. Therefore the rapture is coming. Therefore I don't have to deal with this crap anymore.
01:34:20.520
But if you think about that, that's silly because the story tells you, well, if you do end up being
01:34:24.520
beheaded for my name's sake, you will rule with me for a thousand years. So wouldn't you want to be on
01:34:29.080
earth and, and sacrifice yourself on behalf of Jesus to be able to rule for a thousand years in
01:34:33.640
a resurrected, perfected light body? Well, you should, you're right. You should want that. But
01:34:38.760
but those kinds of people really don't read their Bibles because they don't, they don't have to read
01:34:42.280
that part of revelation Paul, because they're gone before that happens. I don't have to deal with any
01:34:47.800
problems. The same thing is that it never happens. A friend of the show, Ed Mabry actually has a theory
01:34:52.760
about, uh, all three being true pre mid and post where it's just three different waves. And he goes
01:34:58.440
through, right? I believe it was some of his justification for it was, well, there's biblical
01:35:02.280
scripture to back up a lot of it. That's why there's so much contentious argument between
01:35:06.200
these three things. And there also has been a couple of raptures throughout the Bible
01:35:10.200
that just happened. So who's to say that? Right. That weren't called raptures.
01:35:15.080
Like the, the terminology rapture is never used, but rapture just means to yeah, supernaturally moved
01:35:21.080
or removed. And so if you look at instances in the Bible of people being supernaturally removed,
01:35:26.760
uh, then there is precedence for this kind of thing happening. Although there's no,
01:35:30.680
uh, the word rapture is something that was, you know, our theory, me and David's theory,
01:35:35.080
that's like set in stone and I will not hear anything about it. Yes, there will be a pre trip,
01:35:39.000
uh, a pre rap preacher of rapture, and that's for the down syndrome and the actual innocent people,
01:35:46.040
the actual innocent ones here. And then let's start fighting. But yeah, I have no clue.
01:35:51.240
Well, there's a, there's a, I think biblically, there's a, there's a biblically, there's a
01:35:55.320
resurrection. And I think that that's why I think there were people that nobody, there was no word
01:35:59.480
for rapture. I mean, a lot of people get it from first Thessalonians 4, 17, when Paul talks about
01:36:04.440
those who are alive and remain will be caught up in the clouds. But I think I almost feel like that it,
01:36:09.000
what it could have said, because he says that the dead are going to rise first.
01:36:13.800
Right. I think what he, I think what he's really trying to say is don't worry you, the dead are
01:36:19.320
going to go before you, but then you are going to die and you are going to go after them. Because
01:36:23.560
even in, it was in his first Corinthians 15, he mentions like that a seed doesn't go into the
01:36:29.720
ground and become a new thing until it dies. And so he's like, he's saying that that is,
01:36:35.160
again, even think about Jesus saying that a servant is not greater than his master.
01:36:40.040
He's the first fruits of the resurrection. He shows us what it was like, is that he died
01:36:44.520
and then he was resurrected. I mean, like, it's always about the resurrection. And I think overall,
01:36:50.200
it's kind of like the, the, the, the, the main problem with the rapture theology is that
01:36:54.920
you're putting your hope. And if, even if you believe in the preacher of rapture, you believe
01:36:58.440
in any rapture, if that's where your hope is, like, you'd have to admit at this point, really,
01:37:03.160
I mean, of course, maybe you could say Enoch and Elijah possibly, but you would have to say,
01:37:08.200
no one's been raptured yet. So why are you putting your, all your hope in that?
01:37:12.440
Right. When God, when God, what God is really offering you is eternal life.
01:37:16.760
He didn't say you won't have to die because it actually says, there's many scriptures to say,
01:37:20.680
it's appointed for every man to die once, you know, and then, then there's, but we want,
01:37:26.280
we don't want to take part in the second death, which is the lake of fire. So God is offering you
01:37:30.200
life after a resurrection. And so people are trying to, that's why I think many people would,
01:37:35.640
would, would really be upset about what we're saying is because, well, now the rapture is not
01:37:40.040
coming. And it's like, well, again, did your parents die? Did your grandparents die?
01:37:46.760
So did they not get to experience what you're hoping for? And so like,
01:37:50.520
was there, was there hope in Jesus in vain? Of course not.
01:37:54.440
It's not just that though. A lot of people also are banking on that. They get to rule with Christ
01:37:58.520
for a thousand years in some physical, weird sense. Like I get to be a king over everybody.
01:38:03.720
I get to rule with Christ over everybody else. But again, from what I can tell is the first
01:38:08.840
resurrection of those who were beheaded for his namesake and obviously Abraham's buzz and then
01:38:13.400
those who, you know, his boys, you know, his main guys, they get to rule with him as saints for a
01:38:18.760
thousand years as the leaders in the already resurrected perfected body. The second death has no power
01:38:24.280
over these ones. They've already, it's done. It's kind of like their judgment's already sealed and
01:38:28.040
they are already in the level they need to be. And it's fine, you know, and then, but there's still
01:38:32.600
people around that are going to be ruled who were just people, you know, during the millennial reign.
01:38:37.320
And this is who is being ruled over. And these people are not perfected humans. They're just human
01:38:42.040
like the rest of us. And they're still sinning and still making mistakes. And I still, you know,
01:38:45.800
I need to be taught how to live in a kingdom ruled by Christ. That's going to take time, you know?
01:38:51.000
So everything wasn't perfect during the millennial reign, but it was definitely the best it's ever
01:38:55.640
been for humanity in any way, shape or form. And that it was just got better and better and better
01:39:00.520
as the thousand years went on, you know, as the cities were built in these and people lived longer.
01:39:05.720
It says, you know, people, people like children at the age of a hundred during this time, you know,
01:39:10.120
they actually had longevity about them probably because all these cathedrals were actually healing
01:39:14.520
centers in some way. The water they were drinking was charged with healing powers. People would,
01:39:19.320
it was nuts, you know, and people had, people didn't need money. They didn't have to work
01:39:23.640
to survive anymore. Everything was in abundance and they had free energy. I think that's free energy.
01:39:28.440
Yeah. You guys would be, uh, I would highly recommend looking into the work of Ed Mabry.
01:39:32.440
He does our revelation series with us. You would be fascinated in his theories about, um, discovering
01:39:37.800
that the speed of light, uh, as a mathematical equation, he's discovered that is actually degrading over
01:39:43.080
time, that it's not a constant and that the degradation of the speed of light is actually,
01:39:47.800
um, why there may have been a time where human beings lived a lot longer and could commune with
01:39:54.040
God more effectively. Uh, because in his opinion, you know, light and the spiritual realm are intrinsically
01:40:01.560
connected. And so, uh, if the speed of light is degrading, uh, that would be pulling us further away
01:40:09.320
from God. And also since the electrical synapses between molecules is how, uh, our atoms, uh,
01:40:16.440
communicate with one another. Well, if the speed of light is slowing down and those electrical
01:40:20.520
synapses are light, uh, then the communication between our atoms is slowing down and it's actually
01:40:25.720
like degrading our own physical force. It's actually very fascinating. He's a, a biblical theologian.
01:40:31.320
And, uh, I would love to see you guys communicate with him because, um, he's very open-minded.
01:40:36.440
On that idea, you know, I think it's the second law of thermodynamics is that everything's in a
01:40:40.600
constant state of decay. The thing is actually ever getting better. Everything is always degrading.
01:40:46.600
The opposite of evolution, which is true. If you just look around, it's terrible.
01:40:50.520
The opposite of the big bang and evolution and everything they try to teach us.
01:40:53.320
But it's pot, it's possible. Well, first of all, it proves that everything must have been created all
01:40:57.480
but once and then got worse over time, not progressed to get better. So you're right. But it's possible
01:41:02.600
during the millennial reign that even that was reversed. Things, people got better. Entropy
01:41:07.880
ended. I think that that is actually something, uh, he would agree with. Yeah. But once Christ
01:41:12.760
left and went further away from us, God got further away and this kingdom ended, we got back into this
01:41:18.600
state of shorter life. Everything got worse and illness crept back in and everything got worse.
01:41:23.480
I think we can agree at this point who've lived a little while.
01:41:28.760
Things are not getting better. No, no, rapidly. Actually, we've hit a, we've hit an exponential,
01:41:34.440
uh, pace right now. We're like, we're really sprinting towards us. I feel horrible. I don't know about you guys.
01:41:40.760
There was a funny, there was a funny, you know, there's a funny meme that of course they say,
01:41:44.440
because I'm a, I'm a kid of the eighties. I'm a lot older than you guys, but it was funny. It was
01:41:49.320
like in back to the future too, was like, when we watched that movie back in the day, it was like,
01:41:54.040
oh, the future is going to be so awesome. Hoverboards, everything is going to be so great.
01:41:59.240
And now it's like, the meme was no hurry. Let's go back to the eighties. And it's like, that's exactly what.
01:42:04.920
Yeah. We got to 2024 and kids are just lobbing their penises. Let's go back. That's the funny
01:42:10.680
part is like, that it really is. It's like that, that in our short lifetimes, like things have
01:42:16.280
degraded. And I said, I think that, I think instinctively when you kind of look in the old
01:42:20.440
world stuff and I said, I haven't said like, when you get into the sound resonance and the healing
01:42:23.880
stuff, like I said, go into like a Gothic cathedral and like listen to a choir. And there's something
01:42:29.800
like that's, it's like, it's even haunting, like in a good way though. It's like, like
01:42:35.160
something about it makes you just stop. And like, what is, what is this? And then meanwhile,
01:42:40.120
like today, like listen to the stuff that they play on the radio, like, like, like rap music,
01:42:45.480
for instance, is like, I obviously back in the day, I love Nas X. I mean, not even that,
01:42:50.920
but I mean, just like the mumble rap stuff. I mean, it's horrible. Yeah.
01:42:53.640
It's not like this stuff is like, it's not even music. And I used to think about like music.
01:42:59.160
You remember hearing like musicians saying, we're going to change the world with our music.
01:43:03.240
They did. I didn't realize how serious that that was when you realize, like, again,
01:43:07.880
like you have like Lester Crowley that are, is kind of like the push behind this movement in the 60s
01:43:15.320
of rebellion. Like you find out like the megahertz, they changed the megahertz between like,
01:43:20.440
used to be 432 was like, don't get top started. I was like yesterday, I got to make 432 hertz great
01:43:26.840
again. I saw some dude in the store. He's like, what's that mean? I was like, have a seat.
01:43:31.800
No, but I'm saying, isn't it? I mean, like, when you hear like, you think that they're empty
01:43:36.840
phrases by just some kind of hippy dippy musician, we're going to change the world. And then when the
01:43:41.160
Beatles are putting Lester Crowley on Sgt. Pepper's, their album, and then they're singing songs
01:43:47.720
like Revolution, they mean it. Yeah. And like, so back in the day, music was about healing. And then
01:43:54.680
it became about rebellion. It's almost like the devil is back. And he's released. He's got his
01:44:01.800
anthem. Revolution, rebellion. We start with Foundry. He's a, he's like a classical pianist,
01:44:07.960
but he's, he's specializes in ragtime. And me and him were nerding out on chord sequences. And we're
01:44:13.160
talking about the money chords, which is a one, four, one, four, six, five, or one, one, five,
01:44:19.640
six, four, and then repeat, repeat, repeat. And I was like, well, why is that significant? He says,
01:44:23.400
well, it creates this feeling of like, you're going somewhere. Whereas the feeling of travel,
01:44:29.640
of movement, of, of something happening, but nothing's happening. You're in like this dirty cup
01:44:34.840
of water and we're spinning the water. So it kind of feels clean. But after a while, you're really in a
01:44:39.720
fish tank and you get that, that murky smell. Whereas this older music, we're moving through
01:44:44.440
keys and modes and, and you just, there's actual movement and it's keeping things fresh. And it
01:44:49.400
probably has something to do. It's probably affecting your soul. Right. When you, when you're
01:44:53.800
moving through time and space with this kind of, it's just all vibrations. So they've, they've degraded,
01:44:59.720
degraded that. And then they've degraded it to another level by changing the frequency by then adding
01:45:05.560
lyrics and then talking about, you know, wack and all this stuff. Yeah. It's, it's the lowest form of
01:45:11.400
music probably that's ever existed to mankind. What's up, Rick? Hey, we're out to you in the chat,
01:45:17.640
guys. Rick, uh, Rick Rakela, Rackala. I don't know how to say his last name. What's up, man?
01:45:22.280
What's going on, brother? Um, all right. So we have to bring this in for a landing because,
01:45:27.560
because top has to go. What I, what I would like very quickly, because he only has a few minutes. Um,
01:45:32.600
this is the little season. If this is the little season, what comes next biblically? How does this
01:45:40.680
end? A war, a war, a huge incomprehensible war. I'm not talking about petty skirmishes between
01:45:49.640
humans with guns. I'm talking about our biblical proportions, cosmic battle in the sky, something
01:45:56.920
incomprehensible, um, that we've never seen before and we'll never see ever again. We're talking like
01:46:01.960
something huge here. That's the end. That's the end, you know, and, and it will be a war we will
01:46:06.840
not win. Let's put it that way. It's going to be, it's the end of all things. Um, and then final
01:46:12.760
great white throne judgment at the end of time before God, you know, and that's what you better
01:46:17.480
hope you were covered by the blood of Jesus type of situation. But at the same time, we could argue
01:46:22.200
about what the process will be from there, but we do know there'll be a new heaven and a new,
01:46:25.960
and a new earth in a sense, or the earth will at least be renewed. Because I think biblically
01:46:30.680
speaking, the earth is eternal. It does go on forever. Um, and he built it to be that way,
01:46:35.560
but it's possible to be like a rejuvenation of the earth as we know it in some way. Um,
01:46:40.360
and they'll be the end of the Nephilim. Let's put it that way. They'll be cleansed out of like
01:46:45.400
parasites in the earth that will be cleansed out of the earth. So we'll be able to actually live
01:46:50.760
a lot more peacefully without those things around. Let's put it that way. Cause they, they,
01:46:54.440
they are a scourge since their creation. And most of biblical history is about dealing with that problem,
01:46:59.560
you know, and that will be the problem solved at the end, but that starts to absolve humanity
01:47:03.960
of our own sins and our own problems and our own mistakes and our own pride and hubris,
01:47:08.040
you know, uh, that also will be dealt with at the end as well. And however that goes,
01:47:12.440
it's kind of, you just got to make sure you're on the right side when that time comes. But,
01:47:15.640
um, I've speculated on my channel, how this is all going to go down and I've tried to incorporate
01:47:19.560
all the conspiracies into it. And it does make sense that it's the alien invasion card.
01:47:24.600
We're going to see that happen. The end game. Yeah. It's we're going to see something like that.
01:47:30.520
And it's going to be basically Jesus and his beloved city is floating city is new Jerusalem,
01:47:34.760
which has always been there in the center of the earth. The cameras are suddenly going to switch
01:47:38.920
onto it right now. They, they pretend it doesn't exist. No, you're not allowed to go there. Um,
01:47:44.920
all flight paths will avoid it. All boats will avoid it. No camera will ever present to it.
01:47:49.400
People who travel there will never truly actually be going to the center,
01:47:52.200
even though they believe they are, it's kept out of sight, but it's there. Never went anywhere.
01:47:56.280
It has always been there or, you know, and it's presumably always will be there now for eternity,
01:48:00.840
you know? Um, but one day the camera will get switched onto it and all of our mainstream media
01:48:05.080
will say an alien spaceship has just appeared. Okay.
01:48:09.640
Evil Nephilim in the fallen have, have, have, or whatever. Everyone will have their own opinion
01:48:14.280
on the matter. Sure. But they'll say, look, this thing's just turned up or maybe it's from what we can
01:48:18.760
tell magnetic North is actually moving towards Siberia and it has been for about 200 years.
01:48:24.280
That's from, it went from the other side of America, uh, of the Northern coast of Canada,
01:48:28.520
and it's been moving across to Siberia. So it's possible people will start seeing it because it's
01:48:33.000
coming close to land and it's like, we can't hide it anymore. So now we need to point the cameras to it
01:48:38.520
and control the narrative and the narrative will be huge mothership has just appeared from space.
01:48:43.640
We don't know what to do. We don't know what it wants, you know, and they'll, they'll, we've sent
01:48:47.160
ambassadors. Attack it, attack it. Everybody will say, attack it.
01:48:50.360
Well, what, what would likely happen is that the mothership will do nothing because it's just Jesus.
01:48:54.680
He's not there to do anything by that point. Just make his presence known, I assume.
01:48:58.440
Yeah. The devil, I mean, the way it's written in the devil is the aggressor.
01:49:02.200
Yeah. But to get, but to come, now we need to convince people to go make war with it. So how do you do that?
01:49:07.160
Because it's a scary prospect, isn't it? And motherships just turned up, what are we supposed to do?
01:49:10.760
A bunch of false flags that you attribute to it. Well, let's release the chimeras we've made in
01:49:16.040
the labs. Let's release the Nephilim robots we've released once more. Let's release the UFOs we've
01:49:21.000
been building since the forties. Let's make it look like this thing's attacking us. So it's likely they
01:49:28.440
released everything they've built to make it look like humans are being ripped apart by monsters and
01:49:32.840
aliens from this mothership and UFOs are flying everywhere, destroying cities with lasers.
01:49:37.000
And they'll say, the mothership did that. It's going to be lit. Yeah.
01:49:42.120
They'll probably say like, oh, all these things, these monsters, these beasts, these aliens,
01:49:46.680
they came from the mothership. It's attacking us when it did nothing. You know, it was all false flag
01:49:52.600
fakery. But then we'll win. Something will happen and a savior will turn up that will push back the
01:49:58.360
initial attack. And then humanity will kind of recuperate and say, okay, we all need to drop our
01:50:03.800
differences. We all need to band together and be as one. We're a united world civilization and
01:50:08.840
population. We all need to advance our own bodies through transhumanist means and become super
01:50:13.560
marines of some kind, like Warhammer 40k style. I don't know. It's something, it'll all come together
01:50:18.280
at once and people will take a new mark and become hyper new humans or something to go
01:50:24.280
withstand the battle that's coming and everyone will come together and make war.
01:50:29.000
Wasn't it, wasn't it Wernher von Braun who actually said that he had, they had all these kind of
01:50:33.320
deceptions mapped out and the last one was, yeah, it was the alien card. Finally. Yeah. And to convince
01:50:40.280
people to band together, you, you attack the people with supposed aliens from the mothership and then
01:50:45.640
you point the finger at the mothership. Right. Well, you know, it's funny. It's like in all these,
01:50:49.160
in all these situations too, it's like, even though, like I said, I was just breaking down that fallout show,
01:50:52.920
you know, there's, there's a threat of nuclear war. Well, it wasn't the Russians who dropped the
01:50:59.640
bombs in, in the game and in the show. It was the people dropping the bombs on, it was, yeah,
01:51:06.280
it was us dropping the bombs on us. And I think that like, that's why, like, if you try to,
01:51:13.000
it's a, it's another black pill, the whole, I mean, like, again, these are things are kind of black
01:51:17.240
pills in the sense that, yeah, like it's, it's not whatever they're trying to point you to again,
01:51:23.160
like as we talked about Tucker Carlson at the beginning, he can say true things. Do not trust
01:51:29.480
Tucker Carlson. Do not trust anybody who's got that big a platform. Read your Bibles. Obviously,
01:51:35.080
like the stuff that we were most focused on and the reasons that Paul and I have gotten here,
01:51:39.560
it's not because of Taria. It's not because of Marvel movies. It's not because of any of these
01:51:44.360
other things because the Bible actually, when you read it with the lens of the things that Jesus was
01:51:49.400
saying to the people he was speaking to came true. What are you left to conclude after that? And I
01:51:55.240
think that that's why we're asking this, these questions of like, what could be next? And I think
01:51:59.080
that ultimately as Christians, what should be next, our focus should be being with Jesus in the place
01:52:06.840
with no more tears forever. And I think that that's, that's, that's why I, that's why I can laugh about
01:52:12.680
Thanos coming. But that's the point, isn't it? That is the true blessed hope. It's not that you
01:52:20.120
get to reign with Christ for a thousand years on earth. It's forever. The eternal kingdom is
01:52:24.120
around the corner. The true end is nigh. You know, when people walk around with those signs saying the
01:52:28.680
end is nigh, they're actually a lot closer to the truth. And I think we were led to believe that the
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real end is coming, not this tribulation and a thousand year reign. And we're talking about the end,
01:52:39.640
you know, and again, it's, it's, isn't something necessary that should be feared. As long as you
01:52:44.920
understand the concept that the physical is not all that there is. And there is an eternal heaven,
01:52:48.600
which you can be a part of. And the fear only like, you know, no weapon formed against you shall
01:52:54.280
prosper. Doesn't just mean your body won't get hurt. It means they can't take your soul. They can't kill
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that. That's, that's, that's, they can't bless what they can't, they can't curse what God is
01:53:05.560
Oh, well, that's the, that's the end game. And obviously another extra caveat, the good,
01:53:11.160
the good aliens will turn up and try and help us to fight the bad aliens as well. You know,
01:53:16.680
they'll probably push back the initial attack, you know, where the demons are everywhere in the
01:53:20.760
UFOs. The good aliens will turn up and fight back and destroy them and push them back. But it's all,
01:53:25.160
it's just a show. Like it always has been, you know, Tony Merkel has been dealing with a lot of
01:53:29.400
people. Again, we're bringing in for a landing, but yes, because Merkel has been dealing with a
01:53:34.040
lot of people and does seem like there's a lot of different sides to this war. Maybe these sides
01:53:37.880
are fake, but there are people preparing on different sides and there's factions. So I think
01:53:42.280
you're a hundred percent right. There's going to be a lot of confusion. There's going to be a lot
01:53:45.000
of stuff going on. But as JT said, the reason we're all here and the reason I'm glad that I'm here,
01:53:49.720
because I kind of gave up on Christianity on the Bible or like a while ago, had some falling out
01:53:54.840
with the church, but the church isn't, isn't Jesus Christ. I think Jesus Christ is in you.
01:53:59.480
Read the book, understand who this guy is. Try to understand who God is the best that we possibly
01:54:04.520
can as human beings. And when the time comes, it's going to be a fascinating story. A lot of us will
01:54:08.600
be fooled. But if you know who he is, you're going to be able to see his face and recognize him,
01:54:12.680
whether this is the tribulation and the rapture or whether this is the final judgment, you're going
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to be able to know. So just get into your book. All this stuff is fun. It's great. It's great mental
01:54:22.600
exercises and stuff I'm going to chew on. But I know for sure that what I need to do is pray
01:54:28.040
and try to really understand what this is, because I don't think even though you have this stuff
01:54:32.360
fleshed out, we still have no idea what this really will look like and how we'll even react when the
01:54:37.000
time comes. So again, I'm going to bring it in. I'll let you guys do your finishing statements,
01:54:42.600
but thank you for letting us host this. Once again, we didn't deserve to host. This is like a meeting of
01:54:47.480
like two giant brains and we're just like, tell us more. It's like retarded monkeys hosting a
01:54:53.480
really banger show. Can I just say really quickly, this has been very exciting for me because
01:55:00.520
you often think about this great deception and I go, well, I'm too retarded to see it coming.
01:55:05.640
So I know what I'm looking at is more than likely not the whole picture. This just gave me a lot more
01:55:10.840
that picture and it's incredibly exciting. So it's always nice to hear something new. You know what
01:55:18.520
I mean? So guys, take it away. Let everybody know too, before we close out. I know Top has it pulled
01:55:23.400
up your YouTube channels and everything because this is where the gravy is. Yeah, go follow this. Wow,
01:55:28.360
50,000. That's pretty good. Crushing. Awesome. Good for you. Good for me. Go follow Paul.
01:55:35.160
Let's see, go to YouTube guys. I've got, everything's in playlists. If you go to the playlist section,
01:55:40.440
I have a Millennial Kingdom playlist and every other topic you can imagine is all separated there.
01:55:45.000
And I don't know how many videos I've got now. What am I in there? 400 is it? 400. Yeah,
01:55:50.040
it's getting out there, but there's a good chunk of it is on this topic. You can watch my entire
01:55:55.480
journey when I first even started talking about it to now. And you know, I'm just thinking out loud
01:56:00.040
here. I'm speculating about a lot of things and I'm just reading the scripture and trying to pass it out.
01:56:04.280
I've networked with a lot of other voices in this, you know, Joe being one of them. And it's great
01:56:09.080
just to be a part of this, figuring it out. And I'm not saying I have all the answers,
01:56:13.160
but there's certainly some interesting points. I mean, one that I never even got to mention is that,
01:56:17.000
you know, the Freemasons claim they built all these buildings. Well, it's possible they just took all
01:56:21.720
the Freemasonry that was laying around after them like Neil Ray. They built a lot of lives.
01:56:26.600
You know, there's so much more we could have talked about is what I'm trying to say. We have just
01:56:31.560
literally just given you a taster of just how deep this topic can go. I know how this is going to go.
01:56:36.040
People are going to freak out over this episode. We're going to run it back. We're going to do it
01:56:39.800
again. You know, so so I'm glad that there's a lot more meat left on the bone.
01:56:45.000
Yeah, I would love to come back on. And yeah, what I actually I really like what you said,
01:56:50.840
Raven, that like admitting that you don't really know it all allows you to learn a lot more about
01:56:56.840
this. And I think that Paul and I, as much as we have learned, we are still in that place. And that's
01:57:01.240
why we we approach these topics with a little bit of humility that, hey, we are we are trying
01:57:07.560
to flesh these things out. And some people get mad at us for trying to think out loud in these
01:57:10.920
scenarios. But I think that ultimately, this is how we're going to learn, because it's like we
01:57:15.560
the wool's been pulled over our eyes and we are just trying to be aware. But yeah, we're trying to
01:57:20.200
be grounded. And what God said first and and after that, it's kind of like I feel like in a time where
01:57:27.080
you have to wonder how the devil could deceive the nations after such a great time.
01:57:33.720
There's nothing off the table that you that we can't talk about, I think. So I think that's
01:57:37.880
actually it's like all the other conspiracies are legs of the conspiracy, like the one that
01:57:44.040
like you can't even fathom how big it is. And I think that's why it's like everything has to be
01:57:48.680
reexamined. And so I think obviously I think it's it's a blast, obviously, to connect with you guys.
01:57:53.160
And I said, I would love to come back and talk to talk about it again. Absolutely. And please go
01:57:57.320
follow him on man. You get another couple thousand followers on there on Instagram. I know you've got
01:58:02.120
a podcast and you have a link tree here. So if you go to his Instagram, JT follows JC, click the link
01:58:06.840
tree follows YouTube. You probably do an audio download stuff. Yeah, I'm doing it. Yeah, my link
01:58:12.840
tree shows all the links. But I mean, I've been trying to focus more on YouTube lately. But yeah,
01:58:17.080
like if you go on there, you can like typically you can find like the podcast from YouTube and I put them on
01:58:22.760
on. I put them on Rumble eventually. I put them on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and you guys can listen
01:58:28.200
to them. But but I think, you know, like I come from the video background. So I try to make the
01:58:33.400
you know, sometimes I've been a little bit lazy lately. I try to make the the podcast a little
01:58:38.520
more visual. I try to flesh out them by the things we're talking about with the pictures and stuff.
01:58:42.520
So YouTube is the best place to to to to watch. And obviously, I connect with guys like Paul a lot
01:58:48.680
doing we're feeding Rumble, too. We got Rick in the chat. We're feeding Rumble for sure.
01:58:52.440
But yeah, yeah, that's where we want to live. Guys, go follow us on Rumble because YouTube
01:58:56.200
is going to I'm on Rumble to JT. It's only a matter of time until they ban us. I can get
01:59:00.920
I can almost guarantee you. I don't know when YouTube is going to ban us, but it's coming.
01:59:03.720
So go follow us on Rumble. Probably me too. I forget that I'm on Rumble, too, apparently.
01:59:08.520
Yeah, I forget. I don't upload, but I'm trying to get the backlog up. And it's taking a long time.
01:59:13.640
You have to do you got to diversify where you are, because once once we get closer to election
01:59:18.280
season, YouTube's going to be ban hammering you. Rick, I'm calling you out. I see you in the chat.
01:59:22.360
This guy is the he's like one of the head. I don't know his title. He's like the head coordinator
01:59:27.080
of Rumble. Product development. Product development. Yeah. Well, Rick, help me out. Help me out. Help
01:59:32.280
help Paul and I grow our channels on there because we would love to do we'd love to do live streams on
01:59:36.280
Rumble. No, us first, us first. And listen, if you're following. A rising tide raises all ships.
01:59:43.480
There you go. That's right. If you're following Nephilim Death Squad, go follow
01:59:48.280
Understanding Conspiracy. If you're following whatever, let's get incestuous. Let's mix it up.
01:59:51.960
All right, guys. This has been extremely fun. Well, okay. And follow Rick at Rick Rack on X.
01:59:59.560
Go hit him up and he'll help you out. He's been super helpful with the whole Rumble thing. And I
02:00:07.320
appreciate what they've done. They've given us like a real nice base to kind of like have some
02:00:12.280
some sort of stability. And they're improving constantly. Like they're on a real tangent right
02:00:16.680
now. I do put the too hot for YouTube podcast over on Rumble. So I do appreciate Rumble for that,
02:00:25.080
for sure. Yes, it is live. Thank you. NevermarriedDating.com. All right, guys,
02:00:29.880
let's wrap this up. Yeah. Thank you guys for coming on. I got to run. Follow me. TopLobster.com,
02:00:35.080
all that good stuff. You guys already know. Thank you. Any last, any final words?
02:00:41.160
No. Crisis King. Yeah. Crisis. Yeah. Amen, brother. Amen to that. Yeah. Amen. We'll see you later.
02:00:46.760
Peace out, guys. All right. God bless. Bye now.
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