Nephilim Death Squad - 053： Repeating The Roman Empire w⧸ Jeremy Ryan Slate

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00:01:34.840 We are being hypnotized by people like this.

00:01:40.780 News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

00:01:45.180 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:01:54.140 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely different.

00:02:00.060 Oh, yeah, dude.

00:02:01.220 There's some Nephilim shit.

00:02:02.380 Welcome back to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. 0.80

00:02:32.360 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.

00:02:36.600 That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.

00:02:40.760 And today we are joined by our guest, Jeremy Slate.

00:02:44.980 We're going to discuss a bunch of topics ranging from maybe some Nephilim shit,

00:02:48.980 but all the way to the Roman Empire.

00:02:51.400 But before we get into that, Jeremy, can you please let the people know a little bit about what it is you do

00:02:56.840 and where they can find your work?

00:02:59.500 Well, thankfully, I read a YouTube comment only 10 minutes before this conversation.

00:03:03.680 And luckily, I had this scheduled, so I didn't have enough time to end my existence,

00:03:06.880 as the commenter suggested.

00:03:08.220 So I'm stoked to be hanging out with you guys today.

00:03:11.600 I run a PR agency called Command Your Brand.

00:03:13.840 We focus on podcasts and new media.

00:03:15.660 You can find us at commandyourbrand.com.

00:03:17.820 I also have a master's degree.

00:03:21.040 I like to say in the Roman Empire, but it's actually in the propaganda of Augustus.

00:03:24.200 And I say Roman Empire so people understand that a little bit better.

00:03:27.140 But I studied this in school, gosh, almost 15 years ago now.

00:03:31.600 And then all of a sudden on TikTok, people started thinking about the Roman Empire.

00:03:35.000 My wife's like, honey, you're relevant.

00:03:36.680 I'm like, I thought I was relevant yesterday.

00:03:38.760 I'm more relevant today.

00:03:40.300 And it's been quite a year, man.

00:03:41.840 All that stuff you've been annoying me with for the last 10 years, honey,

00:03:44.640 you can now talk to somebody else about.

00:03:46.380 And I feel like...

00:03:46.980 Trust me, man.

00:03:47.720 She loves it.

00:03:48.360 We go to a museum or to Italy because like...

00:03:50.580 So we're going to the Natural History Museum on Thursday.

00:03:53.220 And like, they're going to love it.

00:03:55.380 Like, these are the times they appreciate me.

00:03:59.200 Do you talk to random people?

00:04:00.900 Like, be like, that's actually not true.

00:04:02.760 Like, in the museum.

00:04:03.500 No, I don't like...

00:04:05.120 So I don't like doing that because like, like, gym culture has been a big part of my life.

00:04:09.220 And people like that annoy the hell out of me.

00:04:10.940 They walk over like, you know, if you change that angle just a little bit,

00:04:14.000 you'd be doing it the right way.

00:04:15.260 And I'm like...

00:04:16.240 So I'm not a big fan of that.

00:04:17.660 And I will tell you, it has happened before.

00:04:19.960 I've ended up...

00:04:21.180 Last time we were in Rome.

00:04:22.420 So this is like five or six years ago.

00:04:24.980 I ended up unintentionally doing a free tour.

00:04:27.420 Like, it just kind of happens.

00:04:28.440 Like, where I'm explaining something to my wife.

00:04:29.800 And like, the old couple with curly hair next to you starts slowly moving over towards you.

00:04:34.300 You know, like the old lady curly hair where they have like the fro going on. 1.00

00:04:36.780 They start slowly moving next to you.

00:04:38.720 And next thing you know, there's another group slowly moving next to you.

00:04:41.720 And next thing you know, you have a tour of 10 people.

00:04:43.400 That has happened before.

00:04:43.860 You start charging.

00:04:44.780 You got to just be like...

00:04:45.400 No, that's when you have to start...

00:04:47.060 You have to start defending yourself.

00:04:48.680 You're getting into turf wars with other tour guides.

00:04:52.320 Like, hey, man.

00:04:53.420 You're not welcome in these parts.

00:04:54.860 I had no intention of being a guide, man.

00:04:57.760 That's cool, though.

00:04:58.480 I like the way that works out.

00:04:59.440 I swear.

00:05:00.060 Put the knife away.

00:05:01.320 Is it often, Jeremy, that if you're out there and you're doing that, do you hear them missing the mark?

00:05:07.560 Yes and no.

00:05:09.240 Because I don't know.

00:05:09.820 Like, I think part of the problem with history is a lot of history is perspective.

00:05:13.860 So it depends on whose opinion you're reading or what information you're reading.

00:05:16.620 Because most history of reading, as much as people want to say it's based in fact, unless it's something happened in a certain year, a lot of it's opinion.

00:05:22.640 And I think that's if you look at political figures like Julius Caesar, he's vilified throughout history.

00:05:28.840 And he was kind of just a man of his era and a better politician than the rest of them.

00:05:33.080 So it's very interesting to get viewpoints on history.

00:05:36.180 Yeah, I mean, think about you're on Twitter.

00:05:39.660 So what we look at is history.

00:05:41.280 And what got me interested in being a voice on Twitter or just doing anything was like I'm watching them write history.

00:05:47.840 And I'm like, but that's not quite true.

00:05:49.280 And that's in real time.

00:05:50.880 So imagine, you know, we're talking hundreds of years ago.

00:05:54.820 The facts have been lost probably right off the bat.

00:05:57.240 So who the hell knows what happened?

00:05:58.920 And then there's this alternative history.

00:06:00.620 Or I don't know if you delve into that kind of stuff.

00:06:03.860 Oh, dude, I have read some stuff.

00:06:06.880 I'm a big Eric Von Daniken fan.

00:06:08.920 I'm a big fan of, oh, gosh, what's his name?

00:06:14.140 What's from the Dallas Morning News?

00:06:15.940 Jim Mars.

00:06:16.760 A lot of his stuff is really, really good.

00:06:18.040 So I've read some stuff, man.

00:06:19.980 I like Von Daniken's take on things, even though I feel like he almost ruined his brand going into the ancient aliens side of things,

00:06:28.280 only because there was a time when ancient aliens might have been something that was very compelling.

00:06:33.100 And it certainly was when it first came out.

00:06:34.820 But since then, they've just beaten that brand to death, trying to keep the series alive.

00:06:40.460 And I think that Eric Von Daniken's association with it might be a little bit to his detriment.

00:06:44.320 Although, you know, if you start to grab his books, you realize, like, oh, this guy is a legitimate researcher and a pretty impressive mind when it comes to the ideas that he has surrounding ancient, obscured history.

00:06:54.560 I've read his books, by the way.

00:06:56.800 I haven't, like, consumed any.

00:06:57.880 Like, I don't really know anything about the television show.

00:06:59.460 I don't know about that guy, Giorgio, with the crazy hair.

00:07:01.000 Yes.

00:07:01.240 That's about it.

00:07:02.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:07:03.380 I mean, it was a fun show.

00:07:05.560 You know, at the height of ancient aliens, it was a good show to get into.

00:07:09.240 And it was interesting, some of the ideas that they were exploring.

00:07:11.840 But I think they just started to reach to every possible thing they could to call it, you know, aliens.

00:07:17.380 This was created by aliens. 0.85

00:07:18.300 That was created by aliens. 0.93

00:07:19.160 And I don't know what season we're in.

00:07:20.420 What you're describing is this show.

00:07:21.600 Literally this show.

00:07:22.780 This show above the Nephilim.

00:07:24.820 I have a friend like that, though.

00:07:26.920 Like, you'll get into a long discussion with him, and it's like Democrats, Republicans, aliens.

00:07:31.100 Like, you get there, and you're like, I see how you did that.

00:07:34.220 I'm actually pretty impressed.

00:07:35.480 It's not a far jump.

00:07:36.620 It's actually a little bit of just a skip.

00:07:38.700 It's, like, right there.

00:07:39.920 But I wanted to ask you.

00:07:41.160 I have a question.

00:07:41.800 Oh, yeah, fine.

00:07:42.640 So, throughout the Roman Empire, has there been any folklore or tales of alien interference with any of the leadership?

00:07:51.660 Because we have all the way back to, I think, like, Abraham Lincoln saw aliens.

00:07:55.440 There's, like, folklore like that.

00:07:57.720 So, it's like, might have happened.

00:07:59.300 Not sure.

00:07:59.920 But do you know anything about that?

00:08:01.780 So, I guess you have to look at their viewpoint on the world as different.

00:08:05.200 And they live in an age when, you know, gods walked among men, right?

00:08:09.680 And a lot of that comes from the Greek viewpoint.

00:08:11.900 The Greeks kind of saw gods actually walking the earth as more of a thing.

00:08:15.720 Like, hey, you might run into Hercules.

00:08:17.520 The Romans, that doesn't really become as much of a thing for them until, like, around the year 100, sort of, like, around the second century.

00:08:25.680 You start to get a lot of the Greek culture that comes into Rome, and that's called the Hellenization of Rome.

00:08:29.940 The Greeks wouldn't have called themselves Greeks.

00:08:31.640 They would have called themselves Hellenes. 0.99

00:08:33.280 So, that's really more of what you're looking at.

00:08:35.720 Like, you know, hey, this chick slept with Hercules and had a kid. 1.00

00:08:38.480 But they wouldn't have seen aliens as far as I know.

00:08:41.660 Once again, if there's somebody else out there that has information about that, I'd love to hear it.

00:08:45.240 But I haven't seen that in anything I've read.

00:08:49.700 Yeah.

00:08:50.340 Oh, go ahead, Top.

00:08:51.600 Yeah.

00:08:51.860 I mean, the alien thing is to our, I guess, what we think of it is as a rebranding.

00:08:59.160 So, you know, the people back then would not have seen the aliens.

00:09:04.060 That's the point I'm making.

00:09:05.580 Yeah, they're presenting themselves to us, obviously, in a technological way that we need to understand.

00:09:09.860 But for them, it could have been more of a truer form.

00:09:13.520 Like, you know, Hercules, in our opinion, would have been the Nephilim.

00:09:16.940 He's the product of a half-man, half-god, right?

00:09:19.520 Demigod sort of thing.

00:09:20.820 That's exactly what the Nephilim is.

00:09:22.260 It's a product of the fallen angel, a female human being, and then you get this half-god type of thing, which manifests itself as giants and, you know, whatever kind of folklore you like to think about the Raphael.

00:09:35.620 The overlap is actually tremendous because in so many of the ways, like, I know that Zeus in Greek mythology would have transformed commonly into an eagle.

00:09:47.500 I believe there's even precedence.

00:09:49.300 I don't know if it's in the story of Perseus and the time that his mother was visited.

00:09:55.900 And I know this is Greek mythology, but obviously there's a lot of over that.

00:09:58.700 I have a little bit of that.

00:09:59.780 I named my daughter after a Greek god, so.

00:10:02.920 Very cool.

00:10:03.520 Which one?

00:10:04.940 Persephone.

00:10:05.580 That's a banger of a name.

00:10:06.760 It's a beautiful name, too.

00:10:07.680 It is a beautiful name.

00:10:08.580 But there's even this story.

00:10:11.980 I believe he appears to Perseus' mother as a swan.

00:10:16.080 And so when you have, like, the transmutation or the transfiguration from, you know, this sort of humanoid-looking god into an animal, this is the same attributes that the fallen will display.

00:10:27.900 So it really is the same story.

00:10:31.400 You know, I won't get into it too much, but spoiler alert for those who haven't watched The Watchers, there is this element where they're talking about fairy lore in this film.

00:10:42.580 This is a new film that appeared recently.

00:10:44.240 And as you're watching this, you can see the exact same story told just from the point of view of, I guess, what would be Celtic culture.

00:10:54.020 These entities that even bear image to the fallen in the sense that they're like these angels of light with wings.

00:11:02.760 And they have offspring with human women, and those offspring are a different species. 0.99

00:11:08.360 It's the same thing.

00:11:09.020 You see this repeated throughout history.

00:11:11.060 But I often wonder—

00:11:12.640 That's the whole idea of the Anunnaki, right? 1.00

00:11:14.340 Like, that's the Enki and all that stuff, how they actually, you know, breed with humans and everything. 0.98

00:11:19.660 Yes, and the Anunnaki has a different kind of— 0.99

00:11:24.340 So a lot of these stories, they remain really parallel to the truth, I think, but they deviate in very important factors.

00:11:31.220 And I think that's because the best lie is one that maintains as closely parallel to the truth as possible.

00:11:35.760 But where the Anunnaki deviate in a way that I think is very damning if you should adhere to this ideology is that they created us and that we're essentially a slave race who at one point was used to harvest gold to suspend in their atmosphere because their planet, Nibiru, or something of that nature. 0.97

00:11:54.860 I know this is really Zachariah Sitchin's interpretation of it, but it just paints us as a slave race instead of something that they were actually jealous of, created by God, and then rebelled against him and have been essentially our mortal enemies for some time.

00:12:09.100 It's a pretty clever twist if you want to demoralize people.

00:12:13.620 Well, it's a good story, too, though, and I enjoy a good story.

00:12:16.000 It's a great story.

00:12:17.660 It's a great story.

00:12:18.460 It's almost like the idea of global warming, right?

00:12:23.420 Like it's this story that, yeah, the climate is changing, but then it's kind of like this one lie that deviates you into some destructive behaviors.

00:12:31.700 And you had messaged me before something about global warming, right?

00:12:34.740 It's a really old lie, man, because I'm a big believer that climate goes through cycles.

00:12:40.580 I'm not a climatologist.

00:12:42.040 I don't have, you know, not a biologist either.

00:12:43.800 Well, to interrupt, Jeremy, isn't it not even a matter of belief?

00:12:46.480 This is just what happens.

00:12:47.520 We can see that we go through ice ages and things of that nature, right?

00:12:50.760 So it's, yeah, this is a thing that constantly is in flux.

00:12:55.020 Well, because even in the Roman Empire.

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00:13:55.580 It grows, you know, because they're good at politics, they're good at conquest, and things like that.

00:13:59.840 But they also have a really good situation going on at the planet at that time.

00:14:03.060 It's called the Roman Climate Optimum.

00:14:04.640 So about the year 200 B.C. to around the year 400 A.D. is when they say the end of it is.

00:14:11.460 So we kind of cross the Jesus line in the middle there.

00:14:14.720 But it really starts to go downhill around 180 A.D.

00:14:18.420 But what happens during this time period is they can grow a lot more grain.

00:14:21.920 So they can feed a lot more people.

00:14:23.200 And in the Empire period, so the Republic period ends around 31 B.C.,

00:14:27.900 but from the Empire period, which is 31 B.C. to 476 A.D.,

00:14:32.780 they have Egypt as a place to get a lot more grain.

00:14:37.140 What would happen every year is the Nile River would flood the delta,

00:14:40.200 and then the delta would dry out and be a great place to grow new grain.

00:14:44.320 So that was actually how they fed the whole empire.

00:14:47.100 You start to have climate change happening around the 180s,

00:14:49.980 and the price of grain is doubling, tripling, and going up.

00:14:55.080 So then you have in, I think, 248 or 249, somewhere around there,

00:14:58.460 there's this emperor named Decius, and he gets a little freaked out by this

00:15:01.980 because they also have barbarian invasions and other stuff going on.

00:15:05.220 So they say, you know what?

00:15:06.980 We're going to start mandating everyone's sacrifice to the gods.

00:15:11.140 That'll make the climate get better.

00:15:13.320 And so, you know, you kind of have your first carbon credits.

00:15:16.520 No, just kidding.

00:15:17.500 You have your first idea of, you know,

00:15:20.300 we think that we can change this just by, you know,

00:15:23.200 sacrificing the gods in this way.

00:15:24.300 That's actually terrifying that you made that joke

00:15:26.680 because it's not, it's when you said it, I was like, funny.

00:15:30.220 And then I said, oh, no, that's not funny at all

00:15:32.020 because it's exactly what they're doing.

00:15:33.700 Like, the idea of a climate credit is to,

00:15:37.080 I mean, they're almost trying to kill a certain amount of a population

00:15:40.080 with, whether it be with taxes or,

00:15:43.080 I mean, if you think about like the extrapolated long-term damage

00:15:45.920 that they would do with something that detrimental,

00:15:48.540 it results in human death.

00:15:50.060 So I wonder if that is like their crossover of a human sacrifice.

00:15:54.480 Well, the question that I always have,

00:15:56.500 because I know a lot of historians will talk about

00:16:00.120 people of the Roman era or whatever in a certain way,

00:16:02.820 that you always ask yourself,

00:16:03.720 well, do the people in power actually believe this?

00:16:07.500 Like Caesar at the kind of the turn of the Republican Empire,

00:16:11.220 he holds an office called Pontius Maximus,

00:16:13.440 which is the top religious office in Rome.

00:16:16.760 And there's a lot of thoughts, well, does he even believe this?

00:16:20.160 So you have to be curious, like, just like the climate police nowadays,

00:16:24.480 do they actually believe what they're foisting upon you

00:16:27.240 or is it just another control mechanism?

00:16:29.740 The Pontius Maximus thing,

00:16:31.320 isn't that more or less the first instance of the Pope?

00:16:34.800 Well, the Pope takes that name because what ends up happening is

00:16:39.460 in the 280s, the empire is not really doing so well.

00:16:44.420 So Diocletian creates this system called the Tetrarchy.

00:16:47.040 It breaks the empire into four,

00:16:48.320 which is actually going to solidify into about a two,

00:16:51.040 an east and west.

00:16:52.480 And a lot of the verbiage he uses during that time,

00:16:55.140 like diocese, which comes from his own name,

00:16:57.640 or pontiff, some of these different words that he uses

00:17:01.520 are actually words that as the empire starts to fall

00:17:04.240 and the church kind of transitions after that,

00:17:06.020 they're going to borrow a lot of that verbiage

00:17:07.360 because it would be verbiage people understand.

00:17:09.860 So Rome doesn't really have a separation

00:17:12.440 between the spiritual and temporal.

00:17:14.980 And you're going to see that in how a lot of the,

00:17:17.100 I guess, early formation of like how different dioceses

00:17:19.760 are set up and the verbiage that's used.

00:17:21.180 But I don't necessarily know if it's like,

00:17:23.960 you know, the emperor's handing off the keys to the Pope

00:17:26.360 and being like, go at it, man.

00:17:27.740 It's funny, isn't this guy, like,

00:17:29.580 you want to talk about an ego, right?

00:17:32.880 Which certainly you have to have one

00:17:34.200 to be in that sort of a position.

00:17:36.200 But to go, I'm going to make the word thinking.

00:17:39.400 I'm going to introduce mine.

00:17:40.700 Like pontificate sounds like it literally is derived.

00:17:44.040 He's like, thinking is now, yeah,

00:17:45.700 but it's only done through me.

00:17:47.240 Like that is, I want to be associated with thinking.

00:17:49.840 He literally made a word about that.

00:17:51.100 But I see this parallel that you're drawing, right?

00:17:55.400 Between climate change, even the idea of inflation, right?

00:17:58.080 Because the cost of grain is going up.

00:18:01.500 We have this, even the reintroduction of sacrifice,

00:18:06.920 which to some extent we're in the middle of right now.

00:18:09.740 We might start to see that happening again

00:18:11.360 when it comes to the red heifers.

00:18:12.880 I don't know how familiar you are with that, but-

00:18:14.680 I'm not super familiar,

00:18:15.780 but I know like we're looking for it at some point

00:18:17.320 and when we find it, like good stuff will not happen.

00:18:19.680 Yeah, I mean, they've essentially found it allegedly,

00:18:22.060 but they put it under wraps

00:18:23.000 because I think the media got too hot.

00:18:24.740 This became a really hot button issue,

00:18:26.340 especially after the Hamas hang gliding situation

00:18:30.160 where they said that there was an element

00:18:32.140 of the red heifers having been discovered

00:18:35.660 that drove them to this attack, among other things.

00:18:38.440 But this was something that they said on television.

00:18:41.160 And so, you know,

00:18:42.900 you have a lot of these elements returning.

00:18:44.700 And right now we have this meme, right?

00:18:48.640 This, how often do you think about the Roman Empire?

00:18:52.020 And I find memes fascinating

00:18:53.800 because the reason they catch fire culturally

00:18:57.380 is because they resonate so deeply with us culturally.

00:19:00.760 And there are a lot of things.

00:19:02.540 I suspect that this has a lot to do

00:19:05.800 with sort of the fall of the Roman Empire

00:19:08.540 and the many ways in which it mirrors,

00:19:11.400 you know, modern day issues.

00:19:13.960 And I wonder if that is the reason

00:19:16.180 that people are paying attention.

00:19:17.380 That's the reason so many people are thinking

00:19:18.980 about the Roman Empire allegedly on a daily basis.

00:19:21.180 But I wanted to get your thoughts on that,

00:19:24.000 especially when it comes to the sudden rise

00:19:27.640 in the cultural significance of, you know, Rome,

00:19:31.420 the Roman Empire.

00:19:32.440 Well, you know what's really surprised me?

00:19:35.340 And because I thought very similar to you

00:19:37.700 in the beginning of this,

00:19:39.060 the more of these conversations I had,

00:19:41.740 I just found out people just,

00:19:43.480 they know absolutely nothing about Rome.

00:19:44.860 That's what I found out.

00:19:45.760 And that's been very surprising to me.

00:19:47.000 Like what they know is from watching Joaquin Phoenix

00:19:50.140 and the movie Gladiator.

00:19:51.260 It's a good movie, dude.

00:19:52.700 It was a great movie.

00:19:53.800 I'm a little concerned about watching the next one though

00:19:55.700 because it kind of looks like Training Day in Rome

00:19:57.280 and I'm a little worried that's the direction

00:19:58.960 they went with it.

00:19:59.800 Yeah.

00:20:00.360 But the thing that's been surprising to me

00:20:02.060 is that people actually know very little about Rome.

00:20:05.200 And what I've found is to me,

00:20:07.620 after having these conversations,

00:20:08.700 it feels more like people are reaching for something

00:20:11.540 because they feel like,

00:20:14.320 I guess number one,

00:20:15.560 and I was talking to Sam Tripoli about this,

00:20:17.520 I feel like there's not really a place

00:20:19.060 for men in society anymore.

00:20:20.900 You're told being masculine isn't such a good thing.

00:20:24.300 We need equity and we need all these other things.

00:20:26.360 You can't just go earn something.

00:20:28.080 And I think people look at the Roman Empire

00:20:30.340 and they see it as a period of time

00:20:32.080 when conquest was still a thing

00:20:33.980 and expanding was still a thing

00:20:35.220 and adventure was real.

00:20:37.160 And to me,

00:20:37.960 that's actually what I see of the social zeitgeist

00:20:40.900 is people looking for something else

00:20:45.060 because what we're doing right now

00:20:47.000 just feels like we're not really going anywhere.

00:20:49.280 Do you get what I'm saying?

00:20:51.500 Yeah.

00:20:52.080 A lot of those same people are looking at Hitler,

00:20:56.180 things like that,

00:20:57.100 like Nazi Germany.

00:20:57.980 I was like,

00:20:58.240 that wasn't so cool either, guys.

00:21:00.480 Maybe we could look at something else

00:21:03.160 that didn't end up with Dresden firebombed.

00:21:07.580 They're looking for a way out.

00:21:08.860 It's kind of sad.

00:21:09.960 And do you suspect at all

00:21:12.520 that there's a cultural engineering behind that?

00:21:14.980 Because it just seems like,

00:21:17.660 you know,

00:21:17.960 you have this demoralization of men

00:21:20.380 labeling masculinity as being toxic.

00:21:24.920 Really the last five to seven years,

00:21:28.520 probably actually more since the Obama administration,

00:21:30.700 once they introduced kind of political correctness

00:21:35.120 into our sphere of awareness,

00:21:37.060 it's really been men are

00:21:40.040 and their traits are less desirable

00:21:42.780 for a society.

00:21:45.160 And then you have this thing

00:21:47.960 that's on the horizon.

00:21:48.900 Top just alluded to it.

00:21:49.900 You have a lot of Hitler appreciation, 0.95

00:21:52.460 a lot of certainly the memes

00:21:54.860 surrounding the Roman Empire, right?

00:21:57.400 And kind of the culture around,

00:21:59.740 I think even this idea,

00:22:02.240 like Stoicism,

00:22:03.240 Stoicism came back in a huge way

00:22:05.820 over the last,

00:22:07.280 Stoicism, I'm sorry.

00:22:08.620 There's not a word that I won't butcher.

00:22:11.620 That came back in a big way.

00:22:13.320 I think I even have like musings by Marcus Aurelius.

00:22:15.940 I've never read it.

00:22:17.700 But there are these things

00:22:20.260 that have been ingested

00:22:21.380 or injected into the culture.

00:22:23.260 And they seem to be a direct response

00:22:25.200 to the things that were being subdued,

00:22:27.860 you know, in the way of masculinity. 0.72

00:22:29.500 Do you think that there's a cultural engineering aspect to this?

00:22:32.080 Is this done on purpose?

00:22:32.960 Or is this all just a natural cycle or reaction?

00:22:37.220 Maybe it's just what happens

00:22:38.420 when you get to the point of

00:22:39.760 a society that has a disproportionate amount of wealth.

00:22:43.420 You know, there's a contrast, right?

00:22:46.200 I think that's one of the things

00:22:47.100 that we see in Rome too,

00:22:48.440 is like decadence.

00:22:49.440 And then also the destitute and the poor.

00:22:54.240 That separation of, I guess, status

00:23:00.100 is very dramatic today.

00:23:02.600 And I think it might've been very dramatic in Rome.

00:23:05.160 Do you think that there's a cultural engineering aspect

00:23:07.440 or is this just natural?

00:23:09.400 That's tough

00:23:10.040 because I can kind of see it both ways.

00:23:11.840 And if you look at it,

00:23:12.760 I think one of the major things in the US

00:23:14.640 is our education system

00:23:16.260 has changed dramatically over the past 100 years.

00:23:19.440 And it changed really around the industrial revolution

00:23:21.560 of you want people that can work in factories, 0.51

00:23:23.420 could do menial jobs and things like that.

00:23:25.940 Earlier on,

00:23:27.380 a classical education would have included Latin.

00:23:29.780 It would have included learning the history of Rome

00:23:31.740 or included learning great speakers.

00:23:33.740 And we really just don't do that anymore.

00:23:35.660 It's not even approached.

00:23:37.060 So I think if you have to look at it

00:23:38.440 from that perspective,

00:23:39.400 well, that's definitely concocted.

00:23:40.900 Like someone decided that at some point in time,

00:23:43.020 we're going to stop teaching these things.

00:23:45.000 So you have to really wonder,

00:23:46.820 and that's kind of around

00:23:47.960 your Rockefeller era in time, right?

00:23:50.280 Like when a lot of this stuff starts changing

00:23:52.020 is during the industrial revolution.

00:23:53.460 So you have to wonder if it's kind of kept away

00:23:56.720 as like a knowledge you're not supposed to have

00:23:59.080 to understand of, you know,

00:24:01.080 like what people have done before,

00:24:03.140 what they've created before.

00:24:04.080 And it's kind of just been an experiment

00:24:05.540 we've been going on.

00:24:06.720 Because if you look at even history now,

00:24:09.200 you know, we're getting rid of Thomas Jefferson.

00:24:11.160 We're getting rid of these different things

00:24:12.580 because people that don't have a history,

00:24:15.760 they live in an endless present.

00:24:17.220 And if people don't have a history,

00:24:18.600 you can tell them what their future is.

00:24:20.560 There's a Rage Against the Machine song.

00:24:22.020 I'm trying to remember now.

00:24:23.500 What is it?

00:24:23.760 Who controls the past, controls the future.

00:24:25.940 And then so it's very similar

00:24:27.640 to what I see us going through.

00:24:30.320 So if you don't know the experiences

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00:25:01.220 Man, even if you do know,

00:25:05.660 you just mentioned Rage Against the Machine.

00:25:07.340 It's kind of amazing.

00:25:08.080 Like they were aware.

00:25:09.040 They're raging for it now, man.

00:25:10.580 Yeah, exactly.

00:25:11.920 Honestly, they might be at the point

00:25:14.420 where they're so aware

00:25:15.300 where they're just like,

00:25:16.020 you know what?

00:25:16.360 I'm just going to take the fucking money

00:25:17.680 and that's it.

00:25:18.780 And I don't blame them.

00:25:19.820 I don't blame them.

00:25:20.720 Yeah.

00:25:21.140 I do wonder if there's this element of,

00:25:23.320 we've been talking about the pressure cooker.

00:25:25.260 So if you suppress these things

00:25:27.920 and you hide history from people

00:25:30.600 and you tell them

00:25:32.520 they can't talk about things,

00:25:33.500 you can't express masculinity,

00:25:35.120 things of these natures,

00:25:36.000 you're really just creating

00:25:37.060 a pressure cooker.

00:25:38.000 And what I wonder is

00:25:39.700 if we're going to see

00:25:40.800 a disproportionate rebound

00:25:42.860 once people break out

00:25:46.220 of the pressure cooker,

00:25:47.060 once these topics hit

00:25:48.520 the mainstream conversation.

00:25:49.060 Like an overcorrection,

00:25:50.120 you're saying?

00:25:50.600 Yes, an overcorrection

00:25:51.640 is exactly what I'm saying.

00:25:53.020 What did this look like

00:25:53.960 during the Roman Empire?

00:25:55.020 Because I feel like

00:25:55.720 that might be our best guess

00:25:57.520 of what would happen.

00:25:58.640 From what perspective?

00:26:02.080 The fall,

00:26:03.500 as it was falling.

00:26:05.100 So I guess that's tough too

00:26:06.540 because what most people

00:26:08.200 have been told about the fall,

00:26:09.500 you know,

00:26:10.220 once again,

00:26:10.940 really isn't,

00:26:11.680 it's not a fall.

00:26:13.180 Like Rome really just fades out

00:26:14.520 in the West.

00:26:15.380 In the East,

00:26:15.840 it goes for another

00:26:16.780 almost 1,000 years.

00:26:18.260 It falls in the West

00:26:19.560 in 476

00:26:21.520 and in the East

00:26:22.300 doesn't fall until 1453

00:26:23.520 to the Ottomans.

00:26:25.280 So it takes a very long time

00:26:26.840 to get to that point.

00:26:28.040 But if you look at Rome,

00:26:29.500 the 3rd century

00:26:30.400 is really when,

00:26:32.360 the 3rd century being,

00:26:33.400 you know,

00:26:33.680 200 to about the year 300,

00:26:35.820 is when Romans thought

00:26:37.380 their world was ending.

00:26:38.880 They had just come out

00:26:40.020 of a massive plague

00:26:42.140 in the late 2nd century

00:26:44.820 called the Antonine Plague

00:26:45.760 where about 10%

00:26:46.460 of the empire dies.

00:26:48.100 You have this need

00:26:50.000 for military

00:26:51.380 to basically control everything

00:26:53.340 because what happens is,

00:26:54.780 you mentioned Marcus Aurelius,

00:26:56.060 he's the last of what's called

00:26:57.920 the five good emperors

00:26:59.040 and they had a policy

00:27:00.300 of taking the most qualified

00:27:02.060 person around them,

00:27:03.620 adopting them,

00:27:04.480 and then naming them

00:27:05.220 their successor.

00:27:05.940 They would do it

00:27:06.300 with a full adult,

00:27:06.920 which is a little bit weird,

00:27:07.660 I guess,

00:27:07.960 but they'd be like,

00:27:08.460 hey, this general

00:27:09.040 is now my kid

00:27:09.760 and he's going to be

00:27:10.760 the next emperor.

00:27:11.680 And that happens

00:27:12.300 for five emperors.

00:27:13.740 It's a pretty successful pattern

00:27:15.220 and you have actually

00:27:16.540 a very stable empire

00:27:17.780 during that period.

00:27:19.260 He changes the pattern

00:27:20.320 and he names his son,

00:27:21.880 Commodus,

00:27:22.480 not Joaquin Phoenix,

00:27:23.780 to be the next emperor.

00:27:24.960 And Commodus

00:27:26.760 has no interest in ruling.

00:27:28.260 He wants to be a gladiator.

00:27:29.640 He wants people

00:27:31.140 to love him.

00:27:31.900 So he wastes

00:27:32.560 a lot of the empire's money.

00:27:34.140 He's fighting

00:27:34.900 in the arena every day,

00:27:35.880 but he would do it

00:27:36.380 from a platform

00:27:36.920 because he's a little wimp 0.92

00:27:37.840 and he didn't want

00:27:38.340 to actually threaten

00:27:38.920 his own life.

00:27:40.500 And in 192,

00:27:42.380 there's actually

00:27:43.000 several attempts

00:27:43.880 to kill him

00:27:44.500 because they hated him

00:27:46.320 so bad.

00:27:47.140 The first,

00:27:47.780 they try to poison his wine.

00:27:49.140 They give him too much poison

00:27:50.100 and he ends up

00:27:50.580 throwing it up.

00:27:51.800 And the second,

00:27:52.560 they actually have a wrestler,

00:27:53.540 believe it or not,

00:27:54.840 named Maximus,

00:27:55.700 strangle him to death.

00:27:56.680 And that ends up being

00:27:57.480 the end of Commodus' life.

00:28:00.520 And from that point forward,

00:28:02.580 you have a lot of upheaval

00:28:04.100 in how the actual

00:28:05.820 succession of emperors goes.

00:28:08.340 You can't just brush over that.

00:28:09.580 So they had a wrestler

00:28:10.480 choke him to death.

00:28:12.760 Was this in combat

00:28:14.040 or was this in the street?

00:28:15.420 No, no.

00:28:16.040 He had just thrown up

00:28:17.020 all this poison

00:28:17.600 and he hadn't died from it.

00:28:18.700 They're like,

00:28:18.900 hey, wrestler,

00:28:19.460 come here.

00:28:19.720 Let's strangle the guy to death. 0.96

00:28:21.340 So it wasn't like...

00:28:22.360 Right after.

00:28:23.140 Yeah, right after.

00:28:24.360 Yeah.

00:28:24.500 So it's like the second

00:28:25.160 assassination attempt.

00:28:26.720 Damn.

00:28:27.840 So he dies

00:28:29.280 and he's one of only

00:28:30.740 two emperors,

00:28:31.420 by the way,

00:28:31.740 to have his body

00:28:32.520 drug through the streets

00:28:33.540 and then thrown into the Tiber

00:28:34.600 because they hated him so much.

00:28:36.120 Oh, wow.

00:28:37.020 And after that point,

00:28:39.520 you have the...

00:28:40.540 What really changes

00:28:41.500 is how the succession

00:28:43.400 of emperors

00:28:43.960 is after that point.

00:28:44.780 It's a dramatic change.

00:28:46.880 You have what's called

00:28:47.680 the barrack emperors,

00:28:48.880 barrack meaning military barracks.

00:28:50.540 And what would happen is

00:28:51.900 an army would declare

00:28:53.580 their general

00:28:54.400 to be the guy in charge.

00:28:56.040 And it's kind of comical

00:28:58.080 when you think of it

00:28:58.620 because you would have

00:28:59.220 to wear purple

00:28:59.720 so they would take

00:29:00.220 all their flags

00:29:00.880 and sew them together

00:29:01.680 and be like,

00:29:02.320 hey, you know,

00:29:02.820 this guy that kind of looks

00:29:03.480 like a pauper

00:29:03.960 is our new emperor.

00:29:05.160 But whoever had

00:29:06.040 the most military power

00:29:07.400 then would be

00:29:08.640 the next emperor.

00:29:09.460 So you actually have

00:29:09.920 these guys with armies

00:29:11.080 claiming to be emperor

00:29:11.840 fighting each other

00:29:12.640 in the whole third century.

00:29:14.260 So you have in that time period

00:29:15.640 somewhere between

00:29:16.780 40 and 50 guys

00:29:18.140 claimed to be emperor.

00:29:19.680 Oh, wow.

00:29:19.860 And what ends up happening

00:29:21.100 then is that

00:29:22.140 you have two problems

00:29:23.420 that this is going to create,

00:29:24.520 right?

00:29:24.720 You've just lost

00:29:25.660 10% of the empire

00:29:26.660 40 years before.

00:29:28.900 So you have less troops.

00:29:31.000 Well, what do you do?

00:29:32.320 You import them.

00:29:33.640 So what ends up happening

00:29:34.700 is they start bringing

00:29:35.840 barbarians had always served

00:29:38.220 in the Roman army

00:29:38.900 but in a special portion

00:29:40.120 of it called the auxiliary,

00:29:41.560 not in the main legions.

00:29:43.420 What they actually start doing

00:29:44.480 is importing barbarians, 1.00

00:29:45.920 you know, the Germanic tribes

00:29:47.180 and things like that

00:29:47.880 into the Roman army

00:29:48.760 because they need

00:29:49.440 more people to fight.

00:29:50.900 So your army starts

00:29:52.120 to become less Roman. 0.60

00:29:53.700 It's whoever has

00:29:54.420 the most coin to pay them.

00:29:56.100 So then what ends up happening

00:29:57.140 is these generals

00:29:58.180 start adding other metals

00:30:01.000 to the coins,

00:30:02.600 copper, tin,

00:30:03.580 whatever it might be.

00:30:04.620 So it creates inflation.

00:30:06.600 So now you have people

00:30:07.360 coming across the border

00:30:08.380 to serve in the Roman army

00:30:10.220 and to bring their families

00:30:11.320 with them, right?

00:30:11.820 Because they're not just

00:30:12.120 coming by themselves.

00:30:12.760 And you are inflating

00:30:15.460 the money to now

00:30:16.220 pay these people.

00:30:17.600 So by 284 AD,

00:30:18.960 you have 15,000% inflation.

00:30:22.380 And what you're going

00:30:23.720 to have too is by 410 AD,

00:30:25.580 you're actually going

00:30:26.020 to have Ulrich,

00:30:26.720 who's a Visigoth 0.51

00:30:27.420 and had served

00:30:28.040 in the Roman army,

00:30:29.600 take his army of Visigoths 1.00

00:30:31.540 and attack Rome.

00:30:32.780 So they kind of create

00:30:34.300 their own problems

00:30:35.140 through that hundred years

00:30:36.260 of continually bringing

00:30:37.780 in more people,

00:30:38.920 putting those people

00:30:39.440 in the army

00:30:39.800 because the people

00:30:40.560 in power,

00:30:41.880 they only cared

00:30:42.400 about their own power.

00:30:43.100 They didn't care

00:30:43.580 about the effects

00:30:44.160 they were causing.

00:30:45.260 And at the same time,

00:30:46.400 emperors in the third century

00:30:47.480 were living such a short

00:30:48.700 period of time.

00:30:49.400 They were just trying

00:30:49.960 not to die.

00:30:51.600 We're seeing that

00:30:52.460 same thing now.

00:30:53.720 You're talking about

00:30:54.620 strong argument

00:30:55.580 for racism.

00:30:56.600 That's all I heard, right?

00:30:58.100 Well, what he's talking

00:30:59.220 about, this idea

00:30:59.940 of immigrants

00:31:00.520 coming over the border

00:31:01.960 to serve in the military

00:31:02.880 and they're bringing

00:31:03.300 their families.

00:31:04.200 We just had that

00:31:05.280 as a proposition recently.

00:31:06.660 I don't know

00:31:06.940 if there was any movement

00:31:07.760 as far as legislation goes,

00:31:09.280 but to have these

00:31:10.700 illegal immigrants

00:31:11.860 serve in the military.

00:31:13.280 And so,

00:31:14.320 there's just a lot of ways

00:31:16.340 I'm hearing

00:31:16.820 that you're describing

00:31:17.580 where I'm going,

00:31:18.160 man, we're certainly

00:31:18.860 repeating history.

00:31:20.140 And I know that

00:31:20.580 that's an old trope,

00:31:21.660 history repeats itself,

00:31:22.560 but I wonder

00:31:23.080 what you see

00:31:24.640 as somebody

00:31:25.340 who's got a much

00:31:27.000 more intimate relationship

00:31:28.000 with this history.

00:31:29.120 What do you see

00:31:29.920 in regards of

00:31:31.120 the repetition?

00:31:32.780 But actually,

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00:33:12.900 I hate our fans

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00:33:27.660 So, to just reiterate

00:33:28.980 the question,

00:33:29.700 it was like,

00:33:30.060 you're closer to this situation

00:33:31.400 than a lot of,

00:33:32.120 you know,

00:33:32.320 you're talking about people

00:33:32.940 that don't really understand

00:33:34.260 the Roman Empire

00:33:35.260 but are constantly memeing it

00:33:37.000 and talking about it.

00:33:37.900 I'm one of those people.

00:33:38.820 I don't constantly meme it

00:33:39.680 but I don't understand it.

00:33:40.700 I can't really claim to.

00:33:42.000 I wonder what somebody

00:33:42.880 who actually does understand it

00:33:44.600 sees in the way of,

00:33:46.320 the way it mirrors

00:33:48.240 what's happening today.

00:33:50.240 Well, I think history

00:33:50.980 like rhymes in a lot of ways.

00:33:52.320 I don't think it exactly repeats.

00:33:53.740 I don't think it's like

00:33:54.220 that map in the mall

00:33:55.040 that's like,

00:33:55.440 you are here.

00:33:56.080 What, I'm next to Sears?

00:33:56.940 How did I get here?

00:33:58.120 It's not like that

00:33:59.220 and if you read

00:33:59.960 my YouTube comments

00:34:00.760 apparently I just,

00:34:01.600 I know absolutely nothing

00:34:02.460 and I should just die.

00:34:04.120 But when I,

00:34:05.680 It's really affected by this guy

00:34:07.200 so stop.

00:34:08.680 Dude, people are just mean.

00:34:10.400 I'm like,

00:34:10.620 why do you sit that long?

00:34:11.560 Like, you wrote a paragraph.

00:34:13.280 You need a life.

00:34:13.880 But I think the thing

00:34:16.040 that's really interesting

00:34:16.860 is if you look at,

00:34:18.340 because Edward Gibbons

00:34:19.500 Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire,

00:34:21.020 I think it's seven volumes.

00:34:22.180 It's way too long.

00:34:22.900 Written in 1776.

00:34:24.300 It's like,

00:34:25.140 it's the thing everyone talks about

00:34:26.820 about how Rome declines and falls.

00:34:29.520 And he comes up with like

00:34:30.480 200 different reasons

00:34:31.380 about why they fall.

00:34:32.420 But if you really want to simplify it,

00:34:34.020 there's pretty much two.

00:34:35.100 And that's immigration 0.86

00:34:35.820 and inflation.

00:34:37.060 And if you look at

00:34:37.900 what's happening in America right now,

00:34:40.180 I think in the last three years

00:34:41.340 we've had like,

00:34:41.920 what, 8 million people?

00:34:43.380 We estimate come across the border.

00:34:45.260 Like, that's pretty extreme, man.

00:34:47.580 And we're inflating our money

00:34:49.580 like there's no tomorrow.

00:34:51.040 And if you look at

00:34:51.840 what happened in the Weimar Republic,

00:34:53.920 if we ever lose the,

00:34:56.020 you know,

00:34:56.680 our currency being

00:34:57.600 the standard everyone uses,

00:34:59.220 then we're in big trouble, man.

00:35:02.220 Like, you're not going to be able

00:35:03.000 to get to the supermarket

00:35:03.820 with enough money fast enough

00:35:05.320 to actually buy that loaf of bread

00:35:06.240 by the time it's not worth

00:35:07.060 as much as it was

00:35:07.620 by the time he got there.

00:35:08.780 And I think that's what

00:35:09.520 you have to really consider

00:35:10.880 is things feel all right now.

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00:35:45.100 Extreme and hyperinflation

00:35:46.460 happens the same way

00:35:47.400 bankruptcy does.

00:35:48.500 A little bit

00:35:49.200 and then all at once.

00:35:50.340 And I think that's what

00:35:51.000 you have to really consider

00:35:51.980 is you build yourself

00:35:53.640 over time

00:35:54.280 into the situation

00:35:55.060 and then one day

00:35:55.980 your chickens

00:35:56.460 go home to the roost, man.

00:35:57.380 I think our empire

00:36:00.000 is a little luckier

00:36:01.820 to have some kind

00:36:02.720 of technology

00:36:03.340 on their side

00:36:03.800 because they might

00:36:05.160 be able to really

00:36:06.180 pull this off

00:36:06.960 if they could like

00:36:07.580 dupe us into a 0.99

00:36:09.380 what's that called?

00:36:11.360 Like a crypto coin

00:36:12.680 but a Fed coin

00:36:13.440 kind of thing,

00:36:14.200 you know?

00:36:14.600 Yeah.

00:36:15.340 But the Roman empire

00:36:15.960 didn't have computers

00:36:16.760 to do that

00:36:17.160 so they were like

00:36:17.700 just staring down

00:36:19.120 the barrel of a gun,

00:36:19.960 I suppose.

00:36:21.240 Yes and no.

00:36:22.320 And that's why

00:36:22.660 I've been trying

00:36:22.940 to get Clint

00:36:23.540 to actually do

00:36:24.020 an episode

00:36:24.660 about Roman money

00:36:25.520 because I think

00:36:26.580 if you understand

00:36:28.220 what the eastern empire

00:36:29.280 does,

00:36:29.520 it's actually really

00:36:29.980 interesting.

00:36:30.360 I've been reading

00:36:30.620 a lot more

00:36:30.980 about this recently

00:36:31.660 and Constantine

00:36:33.820 is what you would

00:36:35.740 consider to be

00:36:36.080 the first Christian 0.85

00:36:36.780 emperor

00:36:37.060 and he's emperor

00:36:38.160 in the east

00:36:38.800 though he would

00:36:39.780 have rolled over

00:36:40.260 the full empire

00:36:41.160 and if you would

00:36:43.020 ask a Roman 0.99

00:36:43.640 that they're living

00:36:45.080 during that time period

00:36:45.720 what do they

00:36:46.080 appreciate most

00:36:47.100 about Constantine

00:36:47.720 it wouldn't be

00:36:48.220 anything to do

00:36:48.640 with religion.

00:36:49.860 It would be that

00:36:50.600 around the year

00:36:51.820 I think it's like

00:36:52.860 313 in Trier,

00:36:54.720 Germany

00:36:55.020 he takes

00:36:56.200 and he mints

00:36:57.120 less than 100

00:36:57.980 gold coins

00:36:58.760 24 karat

00:37:00.480 pure gold coins

00:37:01.300 and he mints them

00:37:02.020 so what does he do

00:37:03.080 he rules

00:37:04.120 I think till

00:37:04.720 somewhere around

00:37:05.140 like 330-ish

00:37:06.360 off the top of my head

00:37:07.440 he mints a few coins

00:37:09.200 every single year

00:37:09.820 until the year he dies

00:37:10.560 so what ends up

00:37:11.980 happening is

00:37:12.500 by the time

00:37:12.980 Constantine dies

00:37:14.040 the eastern empire

00:37:15.400 has went from

00:37:16.280 a fiat system

00:37:17.420 to a gold standard

00:37:19.000 and that gold standard

00:37:20.720 is going to last

00:37:21.480 from

00:37:21.900 when Constantine dies

00:37:23.640 in the mid-330s

00:37:25.700 till around the year

00:37:26.920 1000

00:37:27.500 without inflation

00:37:28.560 and I think

00:37:29.680 that's what you have

00:37:30.380 to consider

00:37:30.800 is he saw this problem

00:37:31.960 and he saw how to fix it

00:37:32.820 and that's why

00:37:33.760 he's different

00:37:34.300 than someone like

00:37:35.080 Diocletian

00:37:35.900 the famous reformer

00:37:36.700 of the 280s

00:37:37.400 because he's a military man

00:37:39.240 Diocletian

00:37:39.740 he's going to try

00:37:40.280 and do everything

00:37:40.700 with brunt force

00:37:41.380 so what does he try

00:37:42.060 and do

00:37:42.400 he tries to do

00:37:44.100 some price controls

00:37:45.100 oh I think

00:37:46.540 we just heard a

00:37:47.300 person running

00:37:48.480 for president

00:37:48.940 talk about price controls

00:37:49.880 recently

00:37:50.300 it doesn't do

00:37:51.480 very well

00:37:52.020 and it actually

00:37:52.420 drives inflation

00:37:53.080 farther

00:37:53.480 and it also

00:37:54.360 creates a very

00:37:55.180 vibrant black market

00:37:56.440 because now people

00:37:57.160 want to trade for goods

00:37:57.960 and not government

00:37:59.180 currency

00:37:59.660 so he's

00:38:01.460 I think Constantine

00:38:02.720 is intelligent enough

00:38:03.680 to realize

00:38:04.300 it's the value

00:38:05.320 of money

00:38:05.820 that's creating

00:38:06.460 this situation

00:38:07.260 and

00:38:08.360 you know

00:38:09.700 I don't really know

00:38:10.500 as much about

00:38:11.020 the east border policy

00:38:12.120 as I've been trying

00:38:12.680 to read more about

00:38:13.420 the Byzantine empire

00:38:14.400 recently

00:38:14.900 I'm really focused

00:38:15.980 more on

00:38:16.560 what you'd call

00:38:17.840 the standard Roman era

00:38:18.720 though the east

00:38:19.160 would have called

00:38:19.540 themselves Romans

00:38:20.160 but the big thing

00:38:21.180 he does

00:38:21.540 is standardizing

00:38:22.120 the currency

00:38:22.540 and they last

00:38:23.300 until 1453

00:38:24.060 we talked

00:38:26.060 a moment ago

00:38:27.280 about how

00:38:28.120 it almost feels

00:38:30.300 like history

00:38:30.960 is repeating

00:38:31.620 itself

00:38:32.000 or rhymes

00:38:32.680 do you think

00:38:34.120 that there

00:38:34.580 this is a notion

00:38:35.400 that I often feel

00:38:36.180 compelled to

00:38:36.880 to entertain

00:38:37.740 is that

00:38:39.320 they're looking

00:38:39.980 at

00:38:40.580 these

00:38:41.840 empires

00:38:43.420 throughout history

00:38:44.020 and they're almost

00:38:44.480 treating them

00:38:45.100 like a playbook

00:38:45.780 you know

00:38:46.520 there are

00:38:46.940 certain elements

00:38:47.760 that you can

00:38:48.240 implement

00:38:48.620 that you know

00:38:49.400 will be

00:38:49.760 effective

00:38:50.180 when it comes

00:38:50.700 to destroying

00:38:51.100 an empire

00:38:51.580 and a lot

00:38:52.460 of people

00:38:53.000 suspect that

00:38:54.460 there is

00:38:55.020 a controlled

00:38:55.820 demolition

00:38:57.460 for lack

00:38:58.100 of a better

00:38:58.400 term

00:38:58.620 happening

00:38:59.000 in western

00:39:00.100 culture

00:39:00.600 in America

00:39:01.360 and if you

00:39:02.120 take the idea

00:39:02.820 of Yuri

00:39:03.360 Besmanov

00:39:04.040 right

00:39:04.340 this generational

00:39:05.180 warfare

00:39:05.620 where espionage

00:39:07.060 doesn't happen

00:39:07.780 with spies

00:39:09.020 in a cool

00:39:09.560 sort of

00:39:09.920 James Bond

00:39:10.500 fashion

00:39:10.980 but more

00:39:11.800 it's a

00:39:12.260 generational

00:39:12.820 takedown

00:39:13.600 that starts

00:39:14.640 with the

00:39:14.960 eroding

00:39:15.340 of the

00:39:15.940 people's

00:39:16.460 faith

00:39:16.760 in their

00:39:17.200 various

00:39:17.560 institutions

00:39:18.160 their

00:39:18.380 religious

00:39:18.680 institutions

00:39:19.420 medical

00:39:20.600 military

00:39:21.460 their

00:39:22.860 scholarly

00:39:23.540 institutions

00:39:24.320 and you

00:39:24.980 could very

00:39:25.440 much make

00:39:25.800 an argument

00:39:26.140 that we've

00:39:26.580 gotten there

00:39:27.260 in the past

00:39:28.400 10 years

00:39:28.980 that maybe

00:39:29.340 this is the

00:39:29.800 fruits of

00:39:30.340 someone's

00:39:31.220 labor

00:39:31.460 to try

00:39:32.620 to diminish

00:39:33.800 the west

00:39:34.960 and it

00:39:36.160 just kind of

00:39:36.620 looks

00:39:36.820 to me

00:39:37.340 it looks

00:39:37.620 like they're

00:39:37.900 just pulling

00:39:38.240 from a

00:39:38.500 playbook

00:39:38.880 well I

00:39:39.900 don't know

00:39:40.300 if you guys

00:39:40.620 know Charlie

00:39:41.060 Robinson

00:39:41.420 but that's a

00:39:41.880 that's a

00:39:42.200 big part

00:39:42.560 of what

00:39:42.820 what Charlie

00:39:43.260 talks about

00:39:43.760 is the

00:39:44.080 controlled

00:39:44.580 demolition

00:39:45.080 of the

00:39:45.460 American

00:39:45.880 empire

00:39:46.220 and I

00:39:47.440 think it

00:39:48.000 is very

00:39:48.500 similar

00:39:48.840 because even

00:39:49.700 you guys

00:39:50.360 familiar with

00:39:50.720 Cloward and

00:39:51.100 Piven

00:39:51.280 like the

00:39:51.780 strategy

00:39:52.100 of basically

00:39:52.500 overwhelming

00:39:53.080 the welfare

00:39:53.560 state

00:39:53.960 and that

00:39:54.480 will actually

00:39:54.800 bring down

00:39:55.220 a system

00:39:55.600 one of the

00:39:56.660 things that

00:39:57.100 people don't

00:39:57.780 talk about

00:39:58.360 that often

00:39:58.980 is

00:39:59.480 Rome

00:40:01.000 had a lot

00:40:02.380 of social

00:40:02.780 welfare

00:40:03.080 programs

00:40:03.480 that were

00:40:03.720 actually super

00:40:04.200 expensive

00:40:04.600 the main

00:40:06.160 one

00:40:06.640 is the

00:40:07.280 grain

00:40:07.540 dole

00:40:07.840 and

00:40:08.700 every

00:40:09.740 person

00:40:10.380 in Rome

00:40:10.760 below a

00:40:11.180 certain

00:40:11.360 income

00:40:11.700 level

00:40:12.040 would be

00:40:12.540 given

00:40:12.900 grain

00:40:14.780 on a

00:40:15.880 you know

00:40:16.240 a basis

00:40:16.720 to be able

00:40:17.120 to actually

00:40:17.460 feed their

00:40:17.880 families

00:40:18.240 and what's

00:40:19.840 going to end

00:40:20.100 up happening

00:40:20.540 and that's

00:40:20.800 why when

00:40:21.340 the price

00:40:21.860 of grain

00:40:22.440 is doubling

00:40:22.860 and tripling

00:40:23.240 that's a

00:40:23.560 big problem

00:40:24.080 because the

00:40:24.840 biggest purchaser

00:40:25.620 of grain

00:40:26.220 is the

00:40:27.580 Roman

00:40:27.780 government

00:40:28.240 right

00:40:28.920 so what

00:40:29.280 ends up

00:40:29.600 happening

00:40:29.960 is as the

00:40:30.420 cost of

00:40:31.120 grain

00:40:31.400 is going

00:40:31.700 to go

00:40:31.940 up

00:40:32.140 well that's

00:40:32.940 now going

00:40:33.300 to drive

00:40:33.660 inflation

00:40:34.180 even harder

00:40:34.800 right

00:40:35.360 because now

00:40:35.920 they have

00:40:36.600 to pay

00:40:36.980 double

00:40:37.600 triple

00:40:38.040 whatever it

00:40:38.500 might be

00:40:38.800 in order

00:40:39.580 to feed

00:40:39.880 people

00:40:40.240 and that's

00:40:41.820 something that gets

00:40:42.400 instituted

00:40:42.980 before the empire

00:40:44.520 is even an empire

00:40:45.160 it comes around

00:40:45.900 the year

00:40:46.300 133

00:40:47.580 under these two

00:40:49.100 brothers called

00:40:49.700 the Gracchi brothers

00:40:50.760 and they're

00:40:52.240 actually

00:40:52.520 the senate is so

00:40:54.180 angry with them

00:40:54.740 they pull legs 0.77

00:40:55.420 off of a stool

00:40:56.080 and kill the 0.96

00:40:56.760 first one

00:40:57.260 Tiberius Gracchus

00:40:58.700 and then

00:40:59.540 the second one

00:41:00.700 Gaius Gracchus

00:41:01.340 is actually going

00:41:01.860 to be run out

00:41:02.440 and have his body

00:41:03.080 thrown in the Tiber

00:41:03.800 about ten years

00:41:04.380 after that

00:41:04.900 but they

00:41:05.760 start this

00:41:06.660 social welfare

00:41:07.580 system in Rome

00:41:08.440 and it becomes

00:41:09.660 a really big

00:41:10.580 pull on

00:41:11.720 the treasury

00:41:12.360 but also

00:41:12.840 entertainment

00:41:13.340 as well

00:41:13.780 because if you

00:41:14.220 look at now

00:41:14.760 you have the NFL

00:41:16.100 and things like that

00:41:16.900 those are private

00:41:17.460 businesses

00:41:17.940 in Rome

00:41:19.020 a lot of those

00:41:20.280 entertainment sources

00:41:22.020 would be paid

00:41:22.640 for by the state

00:41:23.620 so you have

00:41:24.600 under Vespasian

00:41:26.780 and around the year

00:41:27.920 78 or 79

00:41:29.660 is when the actual

00:41:30.320 Colosseum is built

00:41:31.160 it would have been

00:41:32.300 called the Flavian

00:41:32.880 Amphitheater

00:41:33.400 during his time

00:41:34.060 but that takes

00:41:36.180 gladiator races

00:41:37.900 and chariot races

00:41:38.660 have always been

00:41:39.180 a big part

00:41:39.920 of Roman culture

00:41:41.060 but they get

00:41:42.180 exponentially larger

00:41:43.460 at that point

00:41:44.240 because now you

00:41:44.980 have this giant

00:41:45.700 place to fill

00:41:46.500 and the Circus Maximus

00:41:47.860 is growing

00:41:48.400 where they have

00:41:49.460 chariot races

00:41:50.140 so just the pure

00:41:51.740 scale of this stuff

00:41:52.860 gets larger

00:41:53.460 so now you have

00:41:54.880 emperors wasting money

00:41:57.420 because they're

00:41:57.940 just spendthrifts

00:41:58.500 anyway

00:41:58.840 they're wasting money

00:42:00.200 on entertainment

00:42:00.960 they're wasting money

00:42:02.040 on grain

00:42:02.400 that's where the idea

00:42:02.820 of bread and circus

00:42:03.340 comes from

00:42:03.740 they're wasting money

00:42:04.280 on grain

00:42:04.880 and entertainment

00:42:05.540 they're wasting money

00:42:07.020 on the military

00:42:07.740 well you haven't even

00:42:09.280 paid for a lot

00:42:09.900 of your regular stuff

00:42:11.420 yet

00:42:11.700 and you've burnt

00:42:12.760 through all your

00:42:13.280 currency

00:42:13.680 so that's the problem

00:42:14.780 you have to think

00:42:15.220 about

00:42:15.420 and if you look

00:42:15.840 at America

00:42:16.320 you know

00:42:17.280 you have

00:42:18.000 a lot of our

00:42:19.200 welfare programs

00:42:20.180 are absolutely

00:42:21.300 destroying

00:42:22.300 you know

00:42:24.060 our currency

00:42:25.000 right

00:42:25.440 because we

00:42:26.240 what is it

00:42:27.560 by 2035

00:42:28.480 that Social Security

00:42:29.700 is supposed to

00:42:30.140 not have any money

00:42:30.880 left

00:42:31.180 because it's a

00:42:31.780 Ponzi scheme

00:42:32.220 anyway

00:42:32.460 and apparently

00:42:32.880 like if you're

00:42:33.280 in government

00:42:33.640 it's cool

00:42:34.040 if you're a private

00:42:34.480 person

00:42:34.780 they're gonna get you

00:42:35.380 but like that's

00:42:37.000 that's the problem

00:42:37.920 and nobody talks

00:42:38.720 about the welfare

00:42:39.760 part of what's

00:42:40.440 draining the Roman 0.97

00:42:40.920 state

00:42:41.240 now

00:42:42.520 in your opinion

00:42:44.180 because

00:42:44.820 for this to happen

00:42:46.700 in America

00:42:47.280 for me

00:42:48.180 it feels like

00:42:48.660 it's contrived

00:42:49.440 in the Roman Empire

00:42:51.140 are these just

00:42:52.120 circumstances

00:42:52.740 or like

00:42:53.320 they were dealt

00:42:53.980 a bad hand

00:42:54.560 with a certain king

00:42:55.260 and that's what

00:42:55.660 happened

00:42:55.940 or are there

00:42:56.520 external influences

00:42:57.860 that are actively

00:42:59.300 doing this

00:43:00.540 to Rome

00:43:01.580 because I feel like

00:43:02.620 that's the case

00:43:03.180 for us

00:43:03.640 it's a combination

00:43:04.720 of things

00:43:05.360 and I think

00:43:05.660 that's why

00:43:05.940 it's hard

00:43:06.340 to say

00:43:06.620 it's one thing

00:43:07.300 because you have

00:43:07.820 to understand

00:43:08.460 in 117 AD

00:43:11.580 the Romans

00:43:12.820 stop

00:43:13.400 major conquests

00:43:14.860 meaning they're

00:43:15.260 not going around

00:43:15.900 really conquering

00:43:16.440 territory anymore

00:43:17.020 and they try

00:43:17.280 to just preserve

00:43:17.860 what they have

00:43:18.480 and that's how

00:43:19.980 they were allowed

00:43:20.460 to have a lot

00:43:21.580 of this opulence

00:43:22.240 and stuff like that

00:43:22.860 because they were

00:43:23.280 continually conquering

00:43:24.080 new territories

00:43:24.720 and early on

00:43:27.140 when Romans

00:43:28.120 conquered you

00:43:28.840 they weren't

00:43:29.320 gonna be like

00:43:29.760 alright

00:43:29.960 you're part of

00:43:31.120 our territory

00:43:31.520 now pay us taxes

00:43:32.380 they would conquer

00:43:33.540 you and say

00:43:33.960 great

00:43:34.340 provide us troops

00:43:35.580 because this is

00:43:36.560 gonna be how

00:43:37.080 we would conquer

00:43:37.720 new territory

00:43:38.380 so when they

00:43:39.580 stop doing that

00:43:40.540 in 117

00:43:41.280 you have

00:43:42.360 less of a supply

00:43:43.600 of military

00:43:44.180 but you also have

00:43:45.760 no more wealth

00:43:47.000 coming into the country 0.53

00:43:47.880 you know

00:43:49.200 you look at

00:43:49.740 the Flavian Amphitheater

00:43:50.780 that money

00:43:52.100 came from Vespasian

00:43:53.260 when he was

00:43:53.740 one of Nero's

00:43:54.820 generals

00:43:55.260 conquering Israel 1.00

00:43:56.320 and that's where

00:43:57.000 a lot of that money

00:43:57.540 comes from

00:43:58.060 so you have to

00:43:59.380 look at

00:44:00.120 once they stop

00:44:01.940 doing that

00:44:02.440 they're not bringing

00:44:03.140 new wealth

00:44:03.860 into the country

00:44:04.520 because that's how

00:44:05.300 Rome continued to grow

00:44:06.320 this idea

00:44:08.500 of this

00:44:09.100 sort of

00:44:10.100 grain-based

00:44:10.880 welfare system

00:44:11.680 every family

00:44:12.200 gets enough grain

00:44:12.980 should be a

00:44:14.080 cautionary tale

00:44:15.040 to those who

00:44:15.820 think that

00:44:16.580 universal basic

00:44:17.420 income would be

00:44:18.060 a good idea

00:44:18.600 right

00:44:18.800 I mean it's

00:44:19.060 the same

00:44:19.620 thing

00:44:20.300 it's just

00:44:20.640 spread to a

00:44:21.180 currency

00:44:21.520 instead of

00:44:22.700 a commodity

00:44:23.280 like grain

00:44:23.980 but right

00:44:25.040 that's a really

00:44:25.640 good point

00:44:26.140 too because

00:44:26.600 I know

00:44:26.940 Julius Caesar

00:44:27.780 when he becomes

00:44:28.640 dictator

00:44:29.840 in 44

00:44:31.300 or 46

00:44:32.240 sorry

00:44:32.520 he dies

00:44:32.880 in 44

00:44:33.300 he goes

00:44:35.180 through this

00:44:35.500 list of

00:44:35.940 reforms

00:44:36.360 and the

00:44:37.640 first of

00:44:38.220 those reforms

00:44:38.900 is he

00:44:39.760 actually

00:44:41.000 pardons all

00:44:41.580 the people

00:44:41.760 that tried

00:44:42.400 to kill

00:44:42.700 him

00:44:42.800 and later

00:44:43.060 will kill

00:44:43.460 him

00:44:43.620 then he

00:44:45.340 reforms

00:44:45.880 the calendar

00:44:46.380 but another

00:44:46.860 thing he

00:44:47.220 does

00:44:47.700 is he

00:44:48.540 actually

00:44:48.840 puts in

00:44:49.280 a better

00:44:49.660 system

00:44:50.160 for the

00:44:50.440 grain

00:44:50.640 dole

00:44:50.840 because

00:44:51.080 what was

00:44:51.420 happening

00:44:51.740 before it

00:44:52.440 is people

00:44:53.800 were

00:44:54.340 you know

00:44:55.720 messing with

00:44:56.820 different things

00:44:57.320 to get more

00:44:57.760 grain

00:44:58.080 or one

00:44:58.540 family would

00:44:58.980 know somebody

00:44:59.420 and they

00:44:59.620 get more

00:44:59.920 grain

00:45:00.260 so you

00:45:01.720 have early

00:45:02.440 on people

00:45:02.860 kind of

00:45:03.120 work in

00:45:03.380 the system

00:45:03.820 which is

00:45:06.080 pretty much

00:45:06.640 the case

00:45:06.960 with any

00:45:07.280 welfare system

00:45:08.000 we see that

00:45:08.780 constantly

00:45:09.340 in America

00:45:10.080 is it's

00:45:11.380 almost as if

00:45:12.000 the system

00:45:12.480 is designed

00:45:13.340 in such a

00:45:13.940 way as to

00:45:14.420 be easily

00:45:14.960 taken advantage

00:45:15.700 of

00:45:16.040 so it

00:45:17.140 seems like

00:45:17.580 so far

00:45:18.000 we've got

00:45:18.420 diversity

00:45:19.100 welfare

00:45:20.300 and war

00:45:21.960 but do

00:45:23.860 you think

00:45:24.340 that the

00:45:24.620 war that

00:45:25.500 the Roman

00:45:25.860 Empire

00:45:26.160 was actually

00:45:26.700 like the

00:45:27.660 war that

00:45:28.240 they were

00:45:28.680 causing

00:45:29.220 was part

00:45:30.720 of their

00:45:30.960 own defeat

00:45:31.400 or do you

00:45:31.620 think they

00:45:31.880 should have

00:45:32.180 continued

00:45:32.600 warring

00:45:33.360 is that

00:45:33.640 what you're

00:45:33.880 saying

00:45:34.100 well and

00:45:37.880 first of all

00:45:38.260 you guys have

00:45:38.760 like the best

00:45:39.380 commenters

00:45:39.960 this guy

00:45:40.300 they're insane

00:45:40.960 this guy

00:45:41.480 star crimes

00:45:42.120 is hilarious

00:45:42.760 star crimes

00:45:43.600 is the man

00:45:44.440 if you've been

00:45:45.040 reading everything

00:45:45.680 this person's

00:45:46.240 been writing

00:45:46.540 it's hilarious

00:45:47.120 I love

00:45:47.620 star crimes

00:45:48.180 I know

00:45:48.500 them

00:45:48.680 but the

00:45:50.960 thing I

00:45:51.460 would say

00:45:51.940 is if

00:45:53.080 you look

00:45:53.360 at it

00:45:53.640 you know

00:45:53.880 I don't

00:45:54.240 like war

00:45:54.680 I don't

00:45:55.440 think it's

00:45:55.680 a good

00:45:55.860 thing

00:45:56.140 but if

00:45:56.580 you look

00:45:56.820 at Rome

00:45:57.240 Rome

00:45:57.580 is it's

00:45:58.380 it's a

00:45:58.780 war society

00:45:59.680 and it's

00:46:01.580 the Punic

00:46:02.140 Wars

00:46:02.560 and when

00:46:03.220 it becomes

00:46:03.620 an empire

00:46:04.000 that actually

00:46:04.400 militarized

00:46:05.300 Rome so

00:46:05.880 much that

00:46:06.360 now it

00:46:06.760 just is

00:46:07.340 eventually

00:46:07.560 going to

00:46:07.840 become an

00:46:08.260 empire

00:46:08.540 so I

00:46:09.500 think that

00:46:10.180 the problem

00:46:10.880 is without

00:46:11.820 war and

00:46:12.280 without

00:46:12.440 conquest

00:46:12.860 Rome

00:46:13.200 doesn't

00:46:13.560 exist

00:46:14.020 it's

00:46:16.240 different

00:46:16.580 and that's

00:46:16.940 why if you

00:46:17.420 look at

00:46:17.740 the Greeks

00:46:18.220 you know

00:46:19.580 Greece was 0.98

00:46:20.080 never really

00:46:20.800 united territory

00:46:21.560 it was a

00:46:22.300 bunch of

00:46:22.940 cities and

00:46:24.300 polices

00:46:24.620 right it

00:46:25.060 was a

00:46:25.300 bunch of

00:46:25.660 little areas

00:46:26.420 and if

00:46:27.200 you know

00:46:27.500 if the

00:46:28.640 Persians were 1.00

00:46:29.120 going to

00:46:29.280 come in

00:46:29.560 they might

00:46:29.860 unite and

00:46:30.480 then hopefully

00:46:31.080 you know

00:46:32.040 beat them

00:46:33.100 but then you

00:46:33.400 might have

00:46:33.620 one of the

00:46:33.900 cities betray

00:46:34.460 them

00:46:34.820 whereas Rome

00:46:35.800 did things

00:46:36.360 as kind of

00:46:36.780 this giant

00:46:37.480 gargantuan

00:46:38.420 you know

00:46:39.320 Leviathan

00:46:40.440 where they

00:46:41.160 were always

00:46:41.540 in the same

00:46:42.240 step

00:46:42.640 and I think

00:46:43.640 that's

00:46:44.000 that is

00:46:44.600 the difference

00:46:45.440 in kind of

00:46:45.860 like how even

00:46:46.440 the two

00:46:46.880 countries expand

00:46:47.880 I think

00:46:49.380 that we

00:46:49.720 would be

00:46:50.160 if we

00:46:50.620 don't touch

00:46:51.280 on the

00:46:51.860 somebody said

00:46:52.400 it

00:46:52.520 the sodomy

00:46:53.280 aspect

00:46:53.720 that is

00:46:54.700 one of

00:46:54.960 the ways

00:46:55.400 many people

00:46:56.400 how do we

00:46:57.120 jump to

00:46:57.500 that

00:46:57.860 that's

00:46:58.140 we're

00:46:58.320 jumping

00:46:58.480 straight 0.70

00:46:58.840 into

00:46:59.080 sodomy

00:46:59.620 so the

00:47:01.240 big knock

00:47:01.740 on Julius

00:47:02.180 Caesar by the

00:47:02.720 way is that

00:47:03.300 he was a

00:47:03.760 bottom

00:47:04.080 there you

00:47:05.280 go

00:47:05.640 if you're

00:47:06.780 going to

00:47:07.060 engage in

00:47:07.760 sodomy

00:47:08.200 you better

00:47:08.600 be the

00:47:08.980 top

00:47:09.300 so there

00:47:11.780 is this

00:47:12.280 by people

00:47:13.460 like myself

00:47:14.360 who don't

00:47:15.440 have an

00:47:15.980 intimate

00:47:16.220 knowledge of

00:47:17.000 the Roman

00:47:17.300 Empire

00:47:17.780 we're quick

00:47:18.760 to say

00:47:19.200 things like

00:47:19.860 well

00:47:20.180 the

00:47:21.740 proliferation

00:47:23.680 of

00:47:23.980 LGBTQ

00:47:24.620 ideology

00:47:26.080 in the

00:47:27.000 West

00:47:27.340 very much

00:47:28.240 mirrors

00:47:28.840 you know

00:47:29.640 what was

00:47:30.100 happening

00:47:30.460 in the

00:47:30.960 fall

00:47:31.260 of the

00:47:31.680 Roman

00:47:31.880 Empire

00:47:32.380 where

00:47:32.940 everybody

00:47:33.300 was

00:47:33.620 engaged

00:47:34.160 in

00:47:34.440 butt

00:47:34.760 sex

00:47:35.060 and that's

00:47:35.540 where

00:47:35.760 my line

00:47:36.660 of intellect

00:47:37.100 stops

00:47:37.700 I just

00:47:39.360 go

00:47:39.540 that's

00:47:39.860 what was

00:47:40.140 happening

00:47:40.560 definitely

00:47:41.260 you can

00:47:41.800 read about

00:47:42.240 it

00:47:42.360 I'm sure

00:47:42.920 is there

00:47:43.500 any validity

00:47:44.140 to that

00:47:44.600 was there

00:47:44.980 yes and

00:47:45.420 no

00:47:45.700 yes and

00:47:46.500 no

00:47:46.760 yes and

00:47:47.280 no

00:47:47.460 and

00:47:47.720 you know

00:47:49.820 because you

00:47:50.160 can even

00:47:50.440 go through

00:47:50.740 history

00:47:51.080 and you

00:47:51.980 know

00:47:52.080 Emperor

00:47:52.420 Hadrian

00:47:52.880 was likely

00:47:53.620 doing that

00:47:54.000 and he

00:47:54.160 actually

00:47:54.340 had a

00:47:54.640 boyfriend

00:47:55.140 that he

00:47:55.740 got pretty

00:47:56.800 upset

00:47:57.080 when he

00:47:57.620 died

00:47:57.900 and they

00:47:58.080 built a

00:47:58.320 temple

00:47:58.520 to him

00:47:58.820 hey

00:47:59.060 it was

00:47:59.360 just

00:47:59.580 a boy

00:48:00.140 that was

00:48:00.680 his

00:48:00.880 friend

00:48:01.320 oh

00:48:01.840 okay

00:48:02.440 well

00:48:03.680 and it

00:48:04.020 was an

00:48:04.300 insult

00:48:04.620 in like

00:48:05.480 the early

00:48:06.020 Roman Empire

00:48:06.600 to like

00:48:06.920 call someone

00:48:07.400 Greek

00:48:07.720 so they'd be

00:48:07.980 like oh

00:48:08.220 Hadrian

00:48:08.580 he's so

00:48:08.980 Greek

00:48:09.460 which everybody

00:48:10.540 knew what

00:48:10.900 that meant

00:48:11.280 in that time

00:48:11.700 period

00:48:11.940 it becomes

00:48:12.300 a lot more

00:48:12.680 acceptable

00:48:13.080 later on

00:48:13.860 but if you

00:48:14.960 even look at

00:48:15.280 the third

00:48:15.620 century of

00:48:16.420 how you

00:48:17.140 get to

00:48:17.500 where you

00:48:17.740 get to

00:48:18.160 it's funny

00:48:20.220 because people

00:48:20.560 talk about

00:48:20.880 the debauchery

00:48:21.380 of Rome

00:48:21.740 and things

00:48:22.100 like when

00:48:22.540 it falls

00:48:23.040 and that's

00:48:23.480 actually not

00:48:24.220 true

00:48:24.640 because by

00:48:25.160 the time

00:48:25.440 it falls

00:48:25.840 it's a

00:48:26.140 Christian

00:48:26.420 empire

00:48:26.780 they did

00:48:27.560 the damage

00:48:28.060 during the

00:48:28.400 debauchery

00:48:29.000 period

00:48:29.360 but they

00:48:30.680 kind of

00:48:31.060 like I

00:48:31.520 don't know

00:48:31.760 got prim

00:48:32.400 improper

00:48:32.800 and did

00:48:33.660 things a little

00:48:34.000 bit differently

00:48:34.420 maybe they

00:48:35.180 realized too

00:48:35.860 late

00:48:36.140 yeah

00:48:37.020 well I

00:48:37.740 guess

00:48:38.220 but if you

00:48:38.540 look at

00:48:38.780 that the

00:48:39.120 third century

00:48:39.560 crisis I

00:48:40.060 was talking

00:48:40.380 about

00:48:40.560 like you

00:48:41.300 kind of

00:48:41.580 start to

00:48:42.000 see the

00:48:42.260 process

00:48:42.680 happen

00:48:43.160 with

00:48:43.400 Commodus

00:48:43.760 but it

00:48:44.580 doesn't

00:48:44.800 fully

00:48:45.300 happen

00:48:45.760 until

00:48:46.340 the mid

00:48:47.460 220s

00:48:48.220 and you

00:48:49.160 get this

00:48:49.580 emperor

00:48:50.240 named

00:48:50.860 Elagabalus

00:48:51.840 which by

00:48:53.860 the way

00:48:54.240 you guys

00:48:54.600 will love

00:48:54.920 this

00:48:55.280 he was

00:48:55.940 the priest

00:48:56.480 of a

00:48:56.880 cult

00:48:57.180 that worshipped

00:48:57.940 a get

00:48:58.800 this black 0.73

00:48:59.720 rock

00:49:00.360 oh

00:49:01.640 interesting

00:49:02.660 many such

00:49:03.280 cases

00:49:03.700 go on

00:49:04.000 yes

00:49:04.280 so he

00:49:04.680 was a

00:49:04.960 teenage

00:49:05.280 priest

00:49:05.700 of a

00:49:06.020 cult

00:49:06.700 called

00:49:07.060 Elagabalus

00:49:07.740 there's two

00:49:08.100 different names

00:49:08.460 for him

00:49:08.640 Elagabalus

00:49:09.140 or Heliogabalus

00:49:09.900 but they

00:49:10.180 basically

00:49:10.680 worshipped

00:49:11.160 this type

00:49:11.540 of a

00:49:11.760 sun god

00:49:12.180 and this

00:49:13.700 dude

00:49:13.980 was nuts

00:49:14.700 he's the

00:49:15.200 only other

00:49:15.640 one other

00:49:15.960 than

00:49:16.100 Commodus

00:49:16.480 that was

00:49:17.400 pulled

00:49:17.640 through the

00:49:17.920 streets

00:49:18.120 of Rome

00:49:18.440 and thrown

00:49:18.700 into the

00:49:19.020 Tiber

00:49:19.300 so what

00:49:20.660 he does

00:49:21.380 is he

00:49:22.160 sends a

00:49:23.200 painting of

00:49:24.980 himself to

00:49:25.560 Rome ahead

00:49:26.000 of himself

00:49:26.460 when he gets

00:49:26.960 there of

00:49:27.220 himself like

00:49:27.720 dancing

00:49:28.140 to his

00:49:29.460 black rock

00:49:30.040 then when he

00:49:31.640 holds a

00:49:31.860 wedding for

00:49:32.340 his black

00:49:32.840 rock

00:49:33.120 where it

00:49:33.340 gets married

00:49:33.800 to another

00:49:34.300 black rock

00:49:34.920 and everyone

00:49:35.300 has to

00:49:35.700 come

00:49:36.040 he would

00:49:37.320 hold these

00:49:38.040 parties

00:49:39.620 where the

00:49:41.140 instance you

00:49:42.500 were talking

00:49:42.880 about before

00:49:43.400 with butts 1.00

00:49:44.100 happens

00:49:44.480 and he would

00:49:45.820 force the

00:49:46.680 senate to

00:49:47.740 actually take

00:49:48.080 part in

00:49:48.400 this

00:49:48.660 he takes

00:49:50.560 his hairdresser

00:49:51.940 and I just

00:49:52.920 imagine the

00:49:53.440 hairdresser

00:49:53.700 having like

00:49:54.180 this like

00:49:54.640 you know

00:49:55.300 like being

00:49:55.940 like oh

00:49:56.880 my gosh

00:49:57.380 hair

00:49:57.880 puts him

00:49:58.720 in charge

00:49:59.000 of the

00:49:59.180 grain supply

00:49:59.720 so he

00:50:00.840 actually makes

00:50:01.380 him run

00:50:01.920 all the

00:50:02.280 food of

00:50:02.620 what

00:50:02.740 everyone's

00:50:03.060 eating

00:50:03.300 well wait

00:50:04.020 a second

00:50:04.440 this is

00:50:05.080 this is

00:50:05.560 interesting

00:50:06.380 because as

00:50:06.960 you're

00:50:07.160 describing these

00:50:08.240 things there's

00:50:08.820 so many

00:50:09.280 once again

00:50:09.780 I just

00:50:10.040 know it

00:50:10.360 gets better

00:50:10.780 it gets better

00:50:11.600 it gets better

00:50:12.200 it gets better

00:50:12.640 so his

00:50:13.600 process of

00:50:15.320 actually like

00:50:15.940 advancing people

00:50:16.660 in jobs

00:50:17.200 was he would

00:50:18.040 make them

00:50:18.380 pull down

00:50:18.780 their pants 0.95

00:50:19.240 and see how

00:50:19.680 long their

00:50:20.000 member was

00:50:20.600 and whoever

00:50:22.000 had the longest

00:50:22.680 member would

00:50:23.480 get the best

00:50:23.960 job

00:50:24.360 and he tries

00:50:26.320 to marry a

00:50:26.880 vestal virgin

00:50:27.460 but Rome

00:50:27.960 really just

00:50:28.800 won't let

00:50:29.060 that happen

00:50:29.480 so that

00:50:29.820 doesn't happen

00:50:30.360 he ends up

00:50:31.600 getting pulled

00:50:32.740 around Rome

00:50:33.340 in a chariot

00:50:33.880 of prostitutes 0.97

00:50:34.880 and supposedly

00:50:36.720 he wanted to

00:50:38.160 be trans

00:50:38.680 but we don't

00:50:39.080 know that

00:50:39.500 incredible

00:50:41.600 wait he made

00:50:42.560 the prostitutes 0.60

00:50:43.380 pull his

00:50:43.900 chariot

00:50:44.400 yes

00:50:44.900 so then

00:50:47.440 basically

00:50:47.880 they get

00:50:48.480 so

00:50:48.880 there's so

00:50:50.860 much upset

00:50:51.460 with this

00:50:51.860 guy

00:50:52.240 that the

00:50:53.040 senate's like

00:50:53.420 all right

00:50:53.680 this is it

00:50:54.580 and the

00:50:54.880 praetorian guard

00:50:55.500 kills him

00:50:56.120 and he's

00:50:56.660 drug through

00:50:57.120 the streets

00:50:57.700 his

00:50:59.400 cousin

00:51:01.120 slash

00:51:01.560 brother

00:51:02.020 because this

00:51:02.460 whole family

00:51:02.800 tree is a little

00:51:03.220 bit funky

00:51:03.620 his cousin

00:51:04.620 slash brother 0.84

00:51:05.440 Cerberus

00:51:05.960 Alexander

00:51:06.380 is going to

00:51:06.700 be the next

00:51:07.220 emperor

00:51:08.040 and he

00:51:09.660 once again

00:51:10.420 is a teenage

00:51:10.840 emperor

00:51:11.100 but that's

00:51:11.440 kind of the

00:51:11.760 last

00:51:12.180 steady

00:51:13.020 emperor

00:51:13.360 you get

00:51:13.620 before

00:51:13.820 this

00:51:14.020 third

00:51:14.220 century

00:51:14.480 crisis

00:51:14.800 happens

00:51:15.140 so

00:51:15.460 I guess

00:51:16.160 DEI

00:51:16.720 opened us

00:51:17.200 up to

00:51:17.420 the

00:51:17.540 crisis

00:51:17.800 of

00:51:17.940 the

00:51:18.020 third

00:51:18.160 century

00:51:18.540 people

00:51:20.280 is this

00:51:20.800 just

00:51:21.080 indicative

00:51:21.640 of human

00:51:22.160 nature

00:51:22.520 that we

00:51:22.900 seem to

00:51:23.220 go through

00:51:23.600 these loops

00:51:24.140 it's like

00:51:24.460 not only

00:51:24.860 does history

00:51:25.340 rhyme

00:51:25.820 but also

00:51:26.620 today

00:51:27.160 you have

00:51:27.660 people

00:51:28.040 marrying

00:51:28.920 inanimate

00:51:29.620 objects

00:51:30.340 you know

00:51:31.440 this

00:51:31.740 all the

00:51:32.480 debauchery

00:51:33.120 that you

00:51:33.800 just described

00:51:34.600 is something

00:51:35.120 that like

00:51:35.560 yeah

00:51:35.680 that's

00:51:35.960 happening

00:51:36.340 right now

00:51:37.160 I see

00:51:37.680 M1990

00:51:39.200 I think

00:51:39.480 we actually

00:51:39.900 follow each

00:51:40.320 other

00:51:40.440 in excess

00:51:40.760 in the

00:51:41.040 comments

00:51:41.420 it's saying

00:51:43.360 that he

00:51:43.600 wanted to

00:51:43.880 be

00:51:43.900 trans

00:51:44.140 that's

00:51:44.440 actually

00:51:44.640 a modern

00:51:45.180 play

00:51:45.520 on that

00:51:45.820 too

00:51:46.020 so

00:51:46.260 go figure

00:51:47.700 our

00:51:47.980 historians

00:51:48.500 now are

00:51:48.900 trying to

00:51:49.160 tie

00:51:49.320 themselves

00:51:49.600 to that

00:51:50.080 of course

00:51:50.660 yeah

00:51:50.960 it

00:51:52.320 sounds like

00:51:53.680 what

00:51:54.120 this has

00:51:55.000 in common

00:51:55.380 is like

00:51:55.660 whenever

00:51:55.900 you're

00:51:56.660 consoling

00:51:57.380 with

00:51:57.560 entities

00:51:57.940 if you're

00:51:58.420 like

00:51:58.660 carrying

00:51:59.520 around

00:51:59.860 a black

00:52:00.360 cube

00:52:00.800 and

00:52:01.080 worshipping

00:52:01.520 the sun

00:52:02.040 honestly

00:52:03.180 that sounds

00:52:03.680 like

00:52:03.940 Saturn

00:52:05.480 worship

00:52:05.880 that

00:52:06.340 Saturn

00:52:06.660 that goes

00:52:07.400 to

00:52:07.560 Satanism

00:52:08.020 and then

00:52:08.340 from

00:52:08.560 Satanism

00:52:09.020 that can

00:52:09.280 be

00:52:09.380 extrapolated

00:52:09.980 down

00:52:10.240 into

00:52:10.560 name

00:52:11.540 your

00:52:11.740 fallen

00:52:12.040 angel

00:52:12.520 which

00:52:13.360 one

00:52:13.480 are they

00:52:13.780 worshipping

00:52:14.400 but it

00:52:15.000 always

00:52:15.280 comes

00:52:15.460 I don't

00:52:15.660 know

00:52:15.780 but many

00:52:16.160 historians

00:52:16.860 call it

00:52:17.280 a conical

00:52:17.940 black rock

00:52:18.720 so you

00:52:19.280 know

00:52:19.440 black rock

00:52:20.540 go figure

00:52:21.000 yep

00:52:21.560 that's it

00:52:22.060 again and

00:52:22.520 again

00:52:22.800 well that's

00:52:23.900 just some

00:52:24.280 Jewish stuff

00:52:24.860 right now

00:52:25.220 but black

00:52:25.660 rock

00:52:25.900 who knows

00:52:26.360 who knows

00:52:26.860 who actually

00:52:27.220 owns that

00:52:27.700 but it

00:52:28.820 always comes

00:52:29.760 back to

00:52:30.380 butt sex 0.81

00:52:31.460 it comes

00:52:32.420 back to

00:52:33.360 fallen

00:52:34.720 angel

00:52:35.140 worship

00:52:35.580 of some

00:52:36.220 type

00:52:36.520 and then

00:52:37.340 the rest

00:52:37.660 of this

00:52:37.980 debauchery

00:52:38.600 and it

00:52:39.300 just rhymes

00:52:40.040 every single

00:52:40.720 time

00:52:41.140 yeah

00:52:42.500 yeah

00:52:43.300 it's

00:52:43.920 kind of

00:52:44.200 wild

00:52:44.460 man

00:52:44.660 because

00:52:44.900 then what

00:52:45.240 ends up

00:52:45.540 happening

00:52:45.880 is

00:52:46.400 it's

00:52:48.240 what ends

00:52:48.660 up happening

00:52:49.100 is you

00:52:49.320 talked about

00:52:49.560 the over

00:52:49.800 correction

00:52:50.120 before

00:52:50.480 so what

00:52:51.020 ends up

00:52:51.320 happening

00:52:51.640 is someone

00:52:52.040 comes in

00:52:52.660 to put

00:52:53.400 in

00:52:53.720 some

00:52:54.340 order

00:52:54.700 and then

00:52:56.200 things go

00:52:57.180 fully the

00:52:57.740 other way

00:52:58.120 right

00:52:58.340 it's an

00:52:58.640 over

00:52:58.920 correction

00:52:59.400 and that's

00:52:59.780 if you

00:52:59.980 look at

00:53:00.220 the third

00:53:00.520 century

00:53:00.780 crisis

00:53:01.160 it becomes

00:53:01.600 fully

00:53:02.800 about

00:53:03.100 power

00:53:03.540 where it's

00:53:03.900 literally

00:53:04.260 just

00:53:04.520 military

00:53:04.960 guys

00:53:05.300 trying to

00:53:05.660 kill

00:53:05.840 each

00:53:06.040 other

00:53:06.240 and

00:53:06.980 that's

00:53:08.040 one of

00:53:08.440 the major

00:53:08.800 instability

00:53:09.300 points

00:53:09.720 that's

00:53:09.860 going to

00:53:10.040 cause

00:53:10.320 the west

00:53:10.680 to eventually

00:53:11.160 fall

00:53:11.560 is that

00:53:12.160 when they

00:53:14.940 look at the

00:53:15.240 Roman Empire

00:53:15.660 too

00:53:15.880 historians

00:53:16.300 tend to

00:53:16.600 break it

00:53:16.880 into two

00:53:17.160 parts

00:53:17.520 they call

00:53:18.440 the first

00:53:19.180 part

00:53:19.620 the

00:53:20.260 principate

00:53:20.880 it comes

00:53:21.780 from the word

00:53:22.440 princeps

00:53:22.960 which is what

00:53:23.440 Augustus would have

00:53:24.060 called himself

00:53:24.620 or prince

00:53:25.240 is where we get

00:53:25.620 our modern

00:53:25.960 word from

00:53:26.440 because he

00:53:27.820 didn't want

00:53:28.000 to call himself

00:53:28.360 a king

00:53:28.660 because the

00:53:28.880 Romans

00:53:29.000 hated

00:53:29.520 kings 0.96

00:53:29.960 in the

00:53:30.980 280s

00:53:31.520 when

00:53:31.660 Diocletian

00:53:32.200 takes over

00:53:32.760 they start

00:53:33.880 using the word

00:53:34.640 dominate

00:53:35.120 it comes

00:53:35.560 from the word

00:53:35.860 dominus

00:53:36.360 or lord

00:53:36.900 it's actually

00:53:37.740 the medieval

00:53:38.200 model for

00:53:38.820 kingship 0.82

00:53:39.220 if you look

00:53:39.600 at a lot

00:53:39.900 of how

00:53:40.280 Diocletian

00:53:41.100 functioned

00:53:42.060 whereas

00:53:42.480 during the

00:53:43.000 principate

00:53:43.460 people would

00:53:43.840 have actually

00:53:44.120 had access

00:53:45.380 to their

00:53:45.720 emperor

00:53:46.020 during the

00:53:46.540 dominate

00:53:47.040 they don't

00:53:47.640 and if

00:53:48.860 you could

00:53:49.160 look at

00:53:49.560 this third

00:53:50.060 century

00:53:50.400 crisis

00:53:50.860 it creates

00:53:51.860 such an

00:53:52.360 overcorrection

00:53:53.120 that you

00:53:53.540 go from

00:53:54.440 you know

00:53:55.580 I'm not going

00:53:56.120 to say

00:53:56.380 the empire

00:53:58.740 is a great

00:53:59.120 place

00:53:59.360 but a pretty

00:53:59.800 decent place

00:54:00.440 to a very

00:54:01.560 brutal

00:54:02.160 place

00:54:02.880 that is

00:54:04.600 we touched

00:54:05.080 on it

00:54:05.340 a moment

00:54:05.620 before

00:54:06.060 and I'd

00:54:06.680 love to

00:54:07.000 hear your

00:54:07.500 thoughts

00:54:07.800 on it

00:54:08.120 a little

00:54:09.200 bit more

00:54:09.520 but that's

00:54:10.940 where I think

00:54:11.380 we're going

00:54:11.820 when we talked

00:54:12.440 about the idea

00:54:13.080 of a pressure

00:54:13.600 cooker

00:54:14.000 right to

00:54:14.860 suppress

00:54:15.340 masculinity

00:54:16.000 even

00:54:16.960 I don't know

00:54:18.060 how much

00:54:18.360 you see it

00:54:18.820 on Twitter

00:54:19.340 but there is

00:54:19.940 this notion

00:54:20.700 of all of a

00:54:21.580 sudden people

00:54:22.080 calling out

00:54:22.880 Jews for

00:54:23.900 you know

00:54:24.280 you touched

00:54:24.660 on the

00:54:24.900 Weimar Republic

00:54:25.520 before

00:54:25.980 this sort

00:54:27.400 of hidden

00:54:27.720 history aspect

00:54:28.620 we didn't

00:54:29.040 understand what

00:54:29.480 really happened

00:54:30.000 in Germany

00:54:30.420 and we

00:54:31.940 for a long

00:54:32.480 time have

00:54:32.920 not been

00:54:33.240 able to

00:54:33.560 discuss

00:54:33.820 these

00:54:34.560 peoples

00:54:35.020 we haven't

00:54:36.180 been able

00:54:36.480 to discuss

00:54:37.180 or express

00:54:38.000 masculinity

00:54:38.620 without it

00:54:39.120 being labeled

00:54:39.540 toxic

00:54:40.000 I feel like

00:54:40.940 it's a really

00:54:41.540 interesting

00:54:42.180 setup

00:54:43.340 inside of a

00:54:44.020 pressure cooker

00:54:44.520 to join those

00:54:45.120 two things

00:54:45.580 together

00:54:45.960 and I worry

00:54:47.100 that what

00:54:47.780 we are going

00:54:48.280 to see

00:54:48.640 is like a

00:54:49.400 nice period

00:54:50.040 but then a

00:54:51.000 dramatic

00:54:51.340 overcorrection

00:54:52.080 I've been

00:54:52.420 saying that

00:54:53.020 the cultural

00:54:53.560 pendulum

00:54:54.080 or at least

00:54:54.940 the political

00:54:56.020 pendulum is

00:54:56.660 certainly about

00:54:57.120 to swing back

00:54:57.820 to let's

00:54:59.000 say Republican

00:54:59.600 but there

00:55:00.920 are cultural

00:55:01.560 connotations

00:55:02.300 that are

00:55:02.680 associated

00:55:03.160 with being

00:55:03.660 Republican

00:55:04.160 conservatism

00:55:04.880 and things

00:55:05.160 of that

00:55:05.420 nature

00:55:05.720 I think

00:55:06.380 that we're

00:55:07.060 going to

00:55:07.760 right now

00:55:08.740 it seems

00:55:09.160 we're strapping

00:55:09.700 a rocket

00:55:10.180 to that

00:55:10.600 pendulum

00:55:10.960 and it's

00:55:11.620 going to

00:55:12.000 swing back

00:55:12.720 in the

00:55:13.140 other direction

00:55:13.720 away from

00:55:14.420 you know

00:55:15.460 liberal

00:55:15.800 to conservatism

00:55:17.340 and we're

00:55:18.420 going to

00:55:18.900 see

00:55:19.360 you know

00:55:20.280 if the

00:55:20.820 LGBTQ

00:55:21.440 community

00:55:22.300 and all

00:55:22.700 the things

00:55:23.040 that happened

00:55:23.600 with that

00:55:24.200 were

00:55:24.720 the

00:55:26.080 left

00:55:27.200 going too

00:55:27.720 far

00:55:28.040 I wonder

00:55:29.080 what it's

00:55:29.460 going to

00:55:29.820 look like

00:55:30.280 when the

00:55:30.660 right goes

00:55:31.160 too far

00:55:31.560 and I

00:55:31.900 feel like

00:55:32.500 that is

00:55:33.040 very much

00:55:33.620 what you

00:55:33.880 just described

00:55:34.500 this over

00:55:34.920 correction

00:55:35.280 is what

00:55:36.020 we're going

00:55:36.420 towards

00:55:36.740 do you

00:55:36.960 think

00:55:37.100 that that

00:55:37.460 is

00:55:37.720 well

00:55:38.040 and that's

00:55:38.380 the concern

00:55:38.880 because you

00:55:39.300 look at

00:55:39.580 someone like

00:55:40.040 like Trump's

00:55:40.600 a moderate

00:55:41.080 like he's

00:55:41.600 a moderate

00:55:42.040 by the

00:55:42.440 normal

00:55:42.760 political

00:55:43.300 spectrum

00:55:44.020 but it's

00:55:44.520 just

00:55:44.700 everything

00:55:45.480 that's not

00:55:45.960 far left

00:55:46.580 now is

00:55:46.940 far right

00:55:47.560 and I think

00:55:48.340 what you're

00:55:48.740 going to end

00:55:49.140 up creating

00:55:49.840 by going so

00:55:50.640 hard after

00:55:51.060 someone's a

00:55:51.540 moderate

00:55:51.820 is you

00:55:52.280 create something

00:55:52.980 way

00:55:54.140 way worse

00:55:55.300 you know

00:55:55.840 and I think

00:55:56.180 that's the

00:55:56.620 problem

00:55:56.980 is they're

00:55:57.280 like Trump

00:55:57.740 is Hitler 0.88

00:55:58.240 he's Caesar

00:55:58.960 he's this

00:55:59.420 he's that

00:55:59.860 and I think

00:56:00.520 the problem

00:56:01.040 is by doing

00:56:01.860 that what

00:56:03.020 you create

00:56:03.540 that comes

00:56:03.980 after Trump

00:56:04.820 could be

00:56:05.280 scary

00:56:05.680 and I think

00:56:06.560 that's that's

00:56:07.480 the actual

00:56:08.020 problem is that

00:56:08.960 is that over

00:56:09.400 correction that

00:56:09.940 direction is

00:56:10.700 you can create

00:56:11.960 so much

00:56:12.700 craziness that

00:56:14.280 now we go

00:56:14.700 somewhere else

00:56:15.140 because you

00:56:15.560 have all these

00:56:16.080 other groups

00:56:16.500 that feel like

00:56:16.820 they've been

00:56:17.100 pushed out

00:56:17.560 yeah

00:56:18.420 you get what

00:56:18.840 I'm trying

00:56:19.060 to say

00:56:19.400 the sort of

00:56:20.640 the vindication

00:56:21.260 of it too

00:56:21.780 it's like

00:56:22.260 one if you

00:56:23.740 push a person

00:56:24.320 against the wall

00:56:25.040 enough and you

00:56:25.500 call them

00:56:26.140 toxic

00:56:26.840 you call them

00:56:27.660 racist

00:56:28.000 you call them

00:56:28.520 this and that

00:56:29.060 well eventually

00:56:29.900 some people

00:56:30.500 have the proclivity

00:56:31.120 to go

00:56:31.440 you know what

00:56:31.860 fine

00:56:32.300 if I can't

00:56:33.660 reason my way

00:56:34.720 out of these

00:56:35.160 accusations

00:56:35.720 and you're going

00:56:36.200 to put these

00:56:36.540 labels on me

00:56:37.120 anyway

00:56:37.380 then I'm going

00:56:37.920 to go ahead

00:56:38.260 and be exactly

00:56:38.960 what you're calling

00:56:39.400 me

00:56:39.480 I think people

00:56:39.900 have a tendency

00:56:40.540 to kind of

00:56:41.060 do that

00:56:41.460 and I think

00:56:41.740 the other

00:56:42.040 thing is

00:56:42.500 when you

00:56:44.240 push a guy 1.00

00:56:45.600 down like

00:56:46.200 Trump

00:56:46.460 constantly

00:56:47.360 and then

00:56:48.340 all of a sudden

00:56:49.260 eventually he does

00:56:50.340 start to get

00:56:50.840 his W's

00:56:51.680 he does start

00:56:52.280 to get

00:56:52.620 vindication

00:56:53.500 in one way

00:56:54.140 or another

00:56:54.540 because what

00:56:55.180 you levied

00:56:55.540 against him

00:56:56.040 is paper thin

00:56:56.640 it falls apart

00:56:57.340 and then all

00:56:58.180 of a sudden

00:56:58.520 the very people

00:56:59.140 launching these

00:56:59.720 accusations

00:57:00.260 get exposed

00:57:01.080 as being

00:57:01.900 terrible

00:57:02.660 themselves

00:57:03.280 and the culture

00:57:04.840 starts to swing

00:57:05.440 towards this guy

00:57:06.020 I think vindication

00:57:06.800 of that level

00:57:07.360 can be also

00:57:08.220 very dangerous

00:57:09.820 so yeah

00:57:10.180 I think we are

00:57:10.760 going towards

00:57:11.540 an overcorrection

00:57:12.480 and that's

00:57:13.700 that's really

00:57:14.360 the scary part

00:57:15.220 is

00:57:15.480 they're creating

00:57:17.020 a situation

00:57:17.700 so let's talk

00:57:19.160 about Julius Caesar

00:57:19.820 for a second

00:57:20.220 because I think

00:57:20.620 history doesn't

00:57:21.240 fully understand him

00:57:22.320 and

00:57:23.320 what actually

00:57:24.820 creates the fall

00:57:25.780 of the republic

00:57:27.020 isn't really Caesar

00:57:28.700 it's actually

00:57:29.940 the people

00:57:30.420 that try to

00:57:31.020 stop Caesar

00:57:31.720 right

00:57:32.300 it's the whole

00:57:32.660 idea of like

00:57:33.240 ending democracy

00:57:34.340 to save it

00:57:35.060 and that's

00:57:35.980 exactly what

00:57:36.760 happened

00:57:36.960 so Caesar holds

00:57:37.880 the consulship

00:57:39.400 in 59 BC

00:57:40.580 consul is kind

00:57:41.420 of like being

00:57:41.760 president

00:57:42.160 but they would

00:57:42.500 have two

00:57:42.840 at the same

00:57:43.260 time

00:57:43.680 because they

00:57:45.140 didn't want

00:57:45.380 one person

00:57:45.840 to hold power

00:57:46.300 and they would

00:57:46.880 hold that power

00:57:47.400 for a year

00:57:47.860 so his

00:57:49.860 the other

00:57:50.260 consul in that

00:57:50.960 year is a guy

00:57:51.560 named Marcus

00:57:52.140 Biblius

00:57:52.680 but he's kind

00:57:53.600 of like a front

00:57:54.120 man

00:57:54.340 the guy behind

00:57:54.940 him is this

00:57:55.320 guy Cato

00:57:55.720 the younger

00:57:56.060 and he's

00:57:57.640 an enemy

00:57:58.260 of Caesar's

00:57:58.940 and Caesar

00:57:59.760 for the most

00:58:00.380 part was really

00:58:01.120 a populist

00:58:01.960 there's two

00:58:03.100 political factions

00:58:03.960 during this time

00:58:04.500 period called

00:58:04.980 the optimates

00:58:05.860 or the great

00:58:06.760 ones which

00:58:07.300 are the rich

00:58:07.640 people

00:58:07.940 and the senate

00:58:08.580 and the

00:58:09.720 popularis

00:58:10.380 which are

00:58:10.620 people that

00:58:10.960 did things

00:58:11.380 more for

00:58:11.860 the popular

00:58:12.720 people

00:58:13.100 so though

00:58:13.860 Caesar was

00:58:14.660 should have

00:58:15.940 been an

00:58:16.280 optimate

00:58:16.760 by birth

00:58:17.200 because he's

00:58:17.560 a patrician

00:58:18.120 he's broke

00:58:18.960 his entire

00:58:19.380 career

00:58:19.620 so he's

00:58:19.960 always borrowing

00:58:20.500 money in order

00:58:21.160 to like

00:58:21.520 get to the

00:58:22.820 next political

00:58:23.160 position

00:58:23.520 so he holds

00:58:24.900 the consulship

00:58:25.520 in 59

00:58:25.980 the first

00:58:26.500 thing he does

00:58:27.360 is rich

00:58:28.500 people had a

00:58:29.120 tendency to take

00:58:29.900 the public

00:58:30.380 land and just

00:58:30.960 use it as

00:58:31.320 their own farms

00:58:31.900 because like

00:58:32.340 I'm rich

00:58:32.880 what are you

00:58:33.080 going to do

00:58:33.380 what Caesar

00:58:35.200 tries to do

00:58:35.620 is take that

00:58:36.080 public land

00:58:36.660 and give it

00:58:37.040 to veterans

00:58:37.520 as like

00:58:37.980 a retirement

00:58:38.640 pension

00:58:39.020 and that

00:58:40.760 gets people

00:58:41.300 really

00:58:41.640 that gets

00:58:42.140 the senate

00:58:42.540 really upset

00:58:43.220 so then

00:58:44.060 Cato and

00:58:45.040 Biblius

00:58:45.420 try to block

00:58:45.980 this so Caesar

00:58:46.800 actually goes

00:58:47.360 directly to the

00:58:47.860 people and gets

00:58:48.260 the people to

00:58:48.660 vote for it

00:58:49.220 so then the

00:58:50.600 people actually

00:58:51.300 chase Biblius

00:58:52.380 into his home

00:58:53.040 and he doesn't

00:58:53.580 leave his home

00:58:53.980 for an entire

00:58:54.440 year

00:58:54.820 so they end up

00:58:55.720 calling the

00:58:56.040 consulship

00:58:56.620 rather than the

00:58:57.280 consulship

00:58:57.860 of Caesar and

00:59:00.160 Biblius

00:59:00.540 they end up

00:59:00.860 calling it the

00:59:01.240 consulship of

00:59:01.820 Julius and

00:59:02.440 Caesar

00:59:02.720 because Caesar

00:59:04.580 is working

00:59:04.960 privately with

00:59:05.580 these two

00:59:05.880 other individuals

00:59:06.820 Rome's greatest

00:59:07.500 general Pompey

00:59:08.300 the Great

00:59:08.600 and Rome's

00:59:09.140 richest man

00:59:09.720 Marcus Crassus

00:59:10.400 they call it

00:59:10.780 the first

00:59:11.080 triumvirate

00:59:11.640 so then after

00:59:12.740 that Caesar

00:59:14.300 goes to spend

00:59:15.060 nine years in

00:59:16.100 Gaul as what's

00:59:16.820 called a

00:59:17.120 proconsul

00:59:17.880 meaning a

00:59:18.340 consul outside

00:59:19.020 of Rome

00:59:19.700 and he kills

00:59:20.660 about a million

00:59:21.240 people in this

00:59:21.860 period of time

00:59:22.320 so let's not

00:59:22.960 make him

00:59:23.440 you know

00:59:23.860 this

00:59:24.460 ultra great

00:59:25.900 populace

00:59:26.440 but anyway

00:59:26.880 he's going to

00:59:28.340 come back to

00:59:28.880 Gaul after

00:59:29.340 his proconsulship

00:59:30.160 expires

00:59:31.580 and if you

00:59:32.320 held one of

00:59:32.840 these political

00:59:33.320 positions you

00:59:34.060 couldn't be

00:59:34.660 charged with

00:59:35.240 any crimes

00:59:35.700 of any sort

00:59:36.200 so he

00:59:37.800 hears to the

00:59:39.040 grapevine that

00:59:39.640 Cato his

00:59:40.160 enemy is like

00:59:40.740 so we have

00:59:42.540 these corruption

00:59:43.220 courts and

00:59:44.040 we've decided

00:59:44.620 you're corrupt

00:59:45.320 and we've got

00:59:46.060 these crimes and

00:59:46.840 we're going to

00:59:47.180 charge you with

00:59:47.720 them so Caesar

00:59:48.920 decides he's

00:59:49.520 going to run

00:59:49.760 for consul

00:59:50.240 again Rome

00:59:51.260 has a in

00:59:52.340 person voting

00:59:53.360 system so he

00:59:54.000 would actually

00:59:54.260 have to show

00:59:54.620 up in person

00:59:55.000 to be voted

00:59:55.320 for he

00:59:56.500 petitions the

00:59:57.640 Senate to be

00:59:58.500 voted for in

00:59:59.060 abstentia it's

00:59:59.720 approved

01:00:00.160 Cato gets

01:00:01.200 that block

01:00:01.800 so Caesar

01:00:02.280 still would

01:00:02.640 have to show

01:00:02.980 up in person

01:00:03.460 so Caesar

01:00:04.540 takes his

01:00:04.960 ten legions

01:00:05.600 marches down

01:00:06.380 through northern

01:00:07.540 Italy leaves

01:00:08.660 nine of them

01:00:09.340 at this river

01:00:10.220 called the

01:00:12.300 Rubicon and

01:00:13.060 then takes one

01:00:13.600 of his legions

01:00:14.120 and crosses the

01:00:14.800 Rubicon and

01:00:16.080 people often say

01:00:17.420 he says oh the

01:00:18.040 die is cast

01:00:18.780 it's actually a

01:00:19.420 mistranslation he

01:00:20.320 was quoting

01:00:21.960 Greek tragedy

01:00:22.780 it would have

01:00:23.180 just been let

01:00:23.600 the chips fall

01:00:24.100 where they may

01:00:24.500 so then he

01:00:26.060 and his one

01:00:26.460 legion enter the

01:00:27.160 city of Rome

01:00:27.780 and all of his

01:00:28.920 enemies just run

01:00:29.540 away

01:00:30.160 they just leave

01:00:30.860 and they let

01:00:31.160 him have the

01:00:31.520 city and that

01:00:32.400 is actually how

01:00:33.180 Caesar ends up

01:00:34.000 becoming dictator

01:00:35.380 is basically they

01:00:36.400 call his bluff and

01:00:37.340 he's like well I

01:00:38.100 got the army you

01:00:38.720 don't I'm gonna

01:00:39.180 come and that

01:00:40.320 ends up how we

01:00:40.900 ends up being how

01:00:42.160 we get there so I

01:00:42.800 think the problem

01:00:43.540 you end up seeing

01:00:44.280 is often this

01:00:46.320 idea of trying

01:00:48.060 to protect things

01:00:49.120 will you know

01:00:50.760 cause the thing

01:00:51.700 you don't want

01:00:52.100 to happen

01:00:52.560 sorry for that

01:00:54.960 long explanation

01:00:55.520 no no

01:00:56.020 that's um

01:00:56.840 is it

01:00:57.520 is

01:00:58.460 am I correct

01:00:59.160 top in saying

01:00:59.860 that's the

01:01:00.180 Streisand effect

01:01:00.880 yeah

01:01:02.040 yeah it's literally

01:01:03.480 that's what's

01:01:04.120 happening right

01:01:04.600 now when it

01:01:05.860 it's coming

01:01:06.660 particularly to

01:01:07.320 Trump in my

01:01:07.860 opinion it's like

01:01:08.540 everybody is

01:01:10.400 you know from

01:01:11.400 the jump

01:01:11.920 it's they don't

01:01:12.520 like his

01:01:12.900 language

01:01:13.400 he's he's

01:01:14.260 you know

01:01:15.240 against women 1.00

01:01:17.080 he's against

01:01:17.840 you know blacks 0.99

01:01:18.880 he's against

01:01:19.360 Mexicans all 0.98

01:01:19.940 these different

01:01:20.300 things and I

01:01:22.820 think it's it's

01:01:24.100 manifesting you

01:01:25.920 know manifest

01:01:26.620 destiny or a

01:01:27.600 self-fulfilling

01:01:28.060 prophecy where

01:01:29.100 it's like you're

01:01:29.540 trying desperately

01:01:30.560 to get this guy

01:01:32.060 out of office and

01:01:33.220 all it's doing is

01:01:34.460 it's painting the

01:01:35.060 picture for like

01:01:35.720 this incredible

01:01:36.380 comeback story that

01:01:37.220 I think we're in

01:01:37.700 the middle of

01:01:38.120 wasn't there that

01:01:39.400 uh that play of

01:01:40.640 Trump as Caesar

01:01:41.840 getting stabbed

01:01:42.640 do you guys

01:01:43.280 recall this or is

01:01:44.480 this a Mandela

01:01:45.040 effect the

01:01:45.600 Shakespeare play

01:01:46.240 I forgot I

01:01:48.240 forgot what it

01:01:48.940 even oh I

01:01:49.980 think I know

01:01:50.320 you're talking

01:01:50.720 about that was

01:01:51.280 that was in

01:01:51.700 New York wasn't

01:01:52.300 it they actually

01:01:52.680 did a play of

01:01:53.260 him being

01:01:53.560 probably that

01:01:54.460 happened that

01:01:55.340 happened I

01:01:55.800 don't remember

01:01:56.020 what it's

01:01:56.260 called that's

01:01:57.580 fascinating now

01:01:58.340 you're already

01:01:58.720 likening to him

01:01:59.560 it is so I

01:02:02.060 mean this this

01:02:02.580 conversation is

01:02:03.400 you know then

01:02:04.200 you have the

01:02:04.520 assassination attempt

01:02:05.520 which uh

01:02:06.900 was there were

01:02:08.180 there multiple

01:02:08.640 attempts on on

01:02:09.840 Caesar there

01:02:10.780 you go this is

01:02:11.120 2017 from the

01:02:12.260 Guardian Trump

01:02:13.400 is Julius Caesar

01:02:14.140 play uh

01:02:15.700 overplay Mrs

01:02:16.500 Shakespeare's

01:02:17.180 points as

01:02:17.700 scholar where

01:02:18.200 did this happen

01:02:18.780 um it

01:02:19.300 happened in

01:02:19.740 New York

01:02:20.320 um yeah I

01:02:23.440 can send you

01:02:23.700 this article

01:02:24.020 this is fun

01:02:24.560 that is fun

01:02:25.760 that's that's

01:02:27.640 it's a weird

01:02:28.200 thing I often

01:02:28.880 wonder when it

01:02:30.080 comes to because

01:02:31.120 on this show we

01:02:31.800 believe in this

01:02:32.320 sort of a

01:02:33.020 spiritual aspect

01:02:34.520 to all of

01:02:35.060 this and that

01:02:35.960 that is what

01:02:37.120 uh moves things

01:02:38.000 along and I

01:02:40.120 wonder if the

01:02:41.480 players on the

01:02:42.280 world stage know

01:02:43.560 the roles that

01:02:44.320 they're playing or

01:02:44.940 if these things

01:02:45.460 just happen uh

01:02:46.800 if they're being

01:02:47.340 moved along in

01:02:48.040 a way by a

01:02:48.800 force that we

01:02:49.320 can't see I

01:02:50.360 mean here you

01:02:51.520 actually have that

01:02:52.280 article I'd love

01:02:52.880 to see that let's

01:02:53.360 bring that up

01:02:54.260 oh they want to

01:02:57.380 give us Trump

01:02:58.580 this is a privacy

01:02:59.220 statement that you

01:02:59.780 don't have to pay

01:03:00.040 for anything

01:03:00.380 Trump is Julius

01:03:03.040 Caesar anger

01:03:03.860 overplay Mrs

01:03:04.840 Shakespeare's point

01:03:05.620 but yeah this did

01:03:06.580 happen I do

01:03:07.320 remember seeing

01:03:08.700 this there was

01:03:09.160 even a video of

01:03:10.140 so it wasn't the

01:03:11.200 Mandela effect

01:03:11.920 no thank god it

01:03:13.360 wasn't because I'm

01:03:13.860 like not yet

01:03:14.520 can you imagine

01:03:16.200 if they implanted

01:03:16.720 that one in your

01:03:17.220 head oh

01:03:18.880 interesting

01:03:19.480 interesting it's

01:03:20.280 like that movie

01:03:21.020 um gosh that

01:03:22.480 apparently never

01:03:23.020 happened uh

01:03:24.080 Shazam um that

01:03:26.200 I'm so convinced

01:03:27.080 is part of my

01:03:27.640 childhood experience

01:03:28.280 but apparently is

01:03:28.840 not real yeah

01:03:30.280 def not X are in

01:03:31.440 the chat is saying

01:03:32.120 that Shazam there's 1.00

01:03:32.900 a there's a lot of

01:03:33.680 really weird uh

01:03:34.920 I wonder if the

01:03:35.960 Roman Empire had 0.78

01:03:36.740 any Mandela effects

01:03:37.880 this is just like a

01:03:39.220 uh you know common

01:03:40.660 occurrence or that I

01:03:42.420 don't that I don't

01:03:43.140 know that takes a much

01:03:43.860 longer time to trace

01:03:44.800 was there a

01:03:45.540 tremendous amount

01:03:46.080 of like drug use

01:03:47.040 uh psychedelic use

01:03:48.480 uh you know substance

01:03:49.900 abuse in the in the

01:03:50.860 Roman Empire because 0.96

01:03:51.720 it's my understanding

01:03:52.300 there was a lot of

01:03:52.820 that and tied into

01:03:53.740 their culture uh and

01:03:55.740 I I wonder you know

01:03:57.280 if you could trace

01:03:58.420 that sort of thing

01:03:59.000 and say yeah towards

01:03:59.700 the end there was

01:04:00.340 much more of a use

01:04:01.560 of these things

01:04:02.180 well they were just

01:04:03.000 heavy heavy heavy

01:04:04.040 drinkers um you

01:04:05.520 know a lot of it is

01:04:06.080 also because like they

01:04:06.900 didn't trust water as

01:04:07.760 much during this time

01:04:08.300 period because it

01:04:08.740 wasn't as clean so

01:04:09.700 you had a better chance

01:04:11.020 of drinking wine and

01:04:11.840 not dying um so

01:04:13.240 like even Mark

01:04:14.660 Antony um um who

01:04:16.240 was uh Caesar's top

01:04:18.320 general and ended up

01:04:19.120 being the guy fighting

01:04:20.360 August or Augustus at

01:04:21.960 the end of the

01:04:22.460 Republic like he was

01:04:24.020 supposedly just drunk

01:04:24.840 all the time so like

01:04:26.000 there there was heavy

01:04:26.860 heavy drinking throughout

01:04:28.000 the entire Republican

01:04:29.580 Empire because I guess

01:04:30.460 that's just how the

01:04:31.160 culture was and at the

01:04:31.880 same time um the

01:04:33.720 water wasn't very safe

01:04:34.800 um I went to China a

01:04:36.380 number of years ago by

01:04:36.880 the way we carried

01:04:37.340 around a backpack of

01:04:38.100 beer because I did not

01:04:39.000 trust the water um and

01:04:40.240 I felt like I was in a

01:04:41.260 safer condition but

01:04:42.200 there's this cult that

01:04:43.060 actually comes out of

01:04:44.320 um it's a Greek cult and

01:04:46.660 there's um I'm trying to

01:04:48.860 forget which writer it

01:04:49.660 was it actually was it

01:04:50.400 Sophocles that actually

01:04:51.200 writes about it but

01:04:51.840 anyway um there's a cult

01:04:53.500 that comes out of Greece

01:04:55.120 and there's actually a

01:04:56.000 play written about it but

01:04:56.900 they're called the

01:04:57.360 Bacchae and what they 1.00

01:04:58.760 would do is they if you

01:05:00.540 leave grapes too long

01:05:01.560 they get an interesting

01:05:02.200 kind of mold on them and

01:05:03.580 they would use that mold to

01:05:05.200 make moldy grape wine and

01:05:07.200 people would just get high

01:05:08.580 as hell and make 0.82

01:05:09.280 predictions and stuff

01:05:10.260 interesting that does

01:05:11.900 make its way into Rome

01:05:13.020 eventually but it is

01:05:13.920 initially a Greek cult

01:05:15.140 yeah that's a mold would

01:05:17.440 be like some sort of a

01:05:18.400 fungus so there's a

01:05:19.720 probably a psychedelic

01:05:20.580 yeah psychedelic wine

01:05:22.340 wow right and in today's

01:05:24.900 society that would sell

01:05:25.960 like crazy all of my

01:05:27.840 knowledge my limited

01:05:28.600 knowledge of Greek

01:05:29.300 culture comes from the

01:05:30.120 movie 300 and and in

01:05:32.960 that film uh they they

01:05:34.600 have a scene where in

01:05:35.940 order to be able to go

01:05:36.960 to war uh Leonidas has

01:05:39.440 to consult with the the

01:05:41.460 priest class and then

01:05:42.700 they need to uh have

01:05:44.640 their muse interact with

01:05:46.820 the spirits and so this

01:05:48.320 girl has to you know take 1.00

01:05:50.400 some sort of psychedelics

01:05:51.400 and commune with the

01:05:52.800 spirit realm and that's

01:05:53.940 where they get their

01:05:54.500 information well a lot of

01:05:54.520 times that was sulfur and

01:05:55.920 stuff like that because

01:05:56.740 what they would do is they

01:05:57.660 would hold a lot of these

01:05:58.400 ceremonies in caves and a

01:05:59.640 lot of that stuff is

01:06:00.140 coming out of the walls so

01:06:01.340 they'd be like oh wow you

01:06:02.300 go to this place and have

01:06:02.900 a vision no you're

01:06:04.080 probably dying you're

01:06:05.320 you're going to that

01:06:06.600 place and literally

01:06:07.480 suffocating your brain

01:06:08.880 and just on the edge of

01:06:10.040 death you're having

01:06:10.640 visions that is that's

01:06:12.400 more than likely uh what

01:06:13.480 was happening there i do

01:06:14.320 want to ask you uh a a

01:06:17.040 quick question or not a

01:06:18.560 quick question i think

01:06:19.100 there's gonna be a hard

01:06:19.760 pivot i'm very interested

01:06:20.980 in this uh but before we

01:06:22.300 get to the the point of

01:06:24.040 it we're gonna run an ad

01:06:25.000 but the question is uh and

01:06:27.040 you can think about this

01:06:27.880 while the ad runs we have

01:06:29.960 been communicating with

01:06:31.260 uh somebody who does a

01:06:33.260 book of revelation series

01:06:34.300 with us every friday ed

01:06:35.900 mabry and he has been

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01:06:42.280 never truly went away and

01:06:44.900 that it became the vatican

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01:06:49.480 on that for a little bit but

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01:08:24.920 okay so just to reiterate um

01:08:29.860 this idea and i'd love to get

01:08:31.960 your thoughts on it that the

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01:08:49.080 miracle machine scott no um but i

01:08:51.480 do want to get your thoughts on

01:08:52.660 the idea that the roman empire

01:08:53.840 never went away and that it

01:08:55.240 actually just turned into the

01:08:56.900 vatican well i think the thing

01:08:58.640 you have to consider is this kind

01:08:59.840 of goes back to what we're

01:09:00.440 talking about earlier and it's

01:09:01.320 the idea of power structures and

01:09:02.940 i think what happens is it's kind

01:09:05.660 of a unique situation where um

01:09:07.820 like where the church was created

01:09:09.060 that it was created as you know

01:09:10.480 part of the roman state because

01:09:11.700 in rome there's no separation

01:09:14.800 between spiritual and temporal

01:09:16.120 right they see spiritual power and

01:09:18.080 temporal power is the same thing

01:09:19.320 and for them that was polytheism

01:09:21.620 and that's why um i think it's

01:09:23.600 plenty the plenty the elder that's

01:09:26.040 actually writing to the emperor

01:09:26.880 about this and trying to explain

01:09:27.960 this um but they they just they

01:09:30.160 didn't quite understand it like for

01:09:32.080 for christians there's a separation

01:09:34.020 between spiritual and the state and

01:09:36.120 so that's why when you have in uh

01:09:38.960 the two late 240s when when decius

01:09:41.560 says oh you have to sacrifice the

01:09:42.720 emperor christians wouldn't do it

01:09:44.500 and this becomes a problem then

01:09:46.440 because well they see this as a

01:09:47.540 political act right they're

01:09:48.380 political revolutionaries they

01:09:49.560 won't they won't sacrifice uh to

01:09:51.740 roman gods and to the emperor but

01:09:53.540 for them it was more or less just a

01:09:55.480 religious act so there's this

01:09:57.440 inability to understand the

01:09:59.160 difference so then what ends up

01:10:00.540 happening then is in 312 after

01:10:04.540 this battle called milvian bridge

01:10:06.200 um constantine has it has a vision

01:10:09.400 and they actually put the kai in the

01:10:11.040 row on shields and they credit um

01:10:14.680 the christian god with basically

01:10:16.100 being the reason that they win this

01:10:17.800 battle of milvian bridge um against

01:10:20.020 another emperor claimant and it makes

01:10:22.060 constantine the guy in charge what

01:10:24.100 ends up happening then is about two

01:10:25.460 percent of the empire during this

01:10:26.640 period is actually christian now

01:10:29.180 what's going to happen is

01:10:30.020 constantine starts favoring christians

01:10:31.760 in political positions so you're going

01:10:33.360 to have people converting to

01:10:34.800 christianity and there's questions

01:10:36.040 well do they believe it are they

01:10:37.060 doing it for political expedience

01:10:38.880 you know once again we don't know

01:10:39.960 it's a very long time ago

01:10:40.920 um by 370 you're going to have

01:10:44.560 christianity becomes the official 0.82

01:10:46.360 religion of the empire so in a little 0.87

01:10:48.680 over a 50 year period the empire

01:10:51.080 totally changes now what's going to

01:10:54.140 happen as i mentioned when in the

01:10:55.920 280s when um diocletian kind of

01:10:59.060 reconstitutes the empire a lot of

01:11:01.420 those verbages like diocese um and

01:11:04.660 things like that end up becoming

01:11:05.920 words that the catholic church is

01:11:07.340 going to use because that would have

01:11:08.680 been what people would have

01:11:09.460 understood in their daily lives just

01:11:11.480 like when alexander the great

01:11:12.580 conquers persia you know he would 0.98

01:11:14.800 call the territories controlled

01:11:16.400 satraps because that's what they 0.99

01:11:17.580 called them so it really ends up

01:11:19.300 being just a cultural changeover uh of

01:11:22.500 the things that had been uniquely

01:11:23.680 roman and had been used in kind of

01:11:25.300 the building of this this power

01:11:26.620 structure that that becomes the

01:11:28.660 church do you get what i'm saying

01:11:30.060 like i don't think it's really like

01:11:31.180 it transitioned to a church it's just

01:11:33.280 that this was their culture this is

01:11:34.760 how they understood it and this is

01:11:35.840 when they started becoming

01:11:36.640 christians that's how they would 0.65

01:11:37.600 adopt the the verbiage so would you

01:11:39.980 agree then with the sentiment that

01:11:42.560 the roman empire does live on in some 0.99

01:11:44.820 way shape or form through the

01:11:45.860 vatican i would say not even just

01:11:47.700 through the vatican and like how many

01:11:48.800 forms of government like go to dc like

01:11:50.500 you look at a lot of those buildings

01:11:51.320 you feel like you're you're in you're

01:11:52.920 in rome or in one of those other

01:11:54.060 areas so i think that's what you

01:11:55.960 have to consider is it's become such a

01:11:57.660 big cultural part of our history um

01:12:00.860 that i think it lives on in many many

01:12:02.920 ways um you know in good ways and in

01:12:05.140 bad right like if you look at um you

01:12:07.260 know the papacy in the middle ages

01:12:08.320 wasn't a wasn't a very good thing just

01:12:10.300 ask ask the cathars what happened in the

01:12:11.900 year 1000 um but if you if you look at

01:12:15.040 kind of those rome as a whole we do end

01:12:18.260 up using it in so many different ways in

01:12:20.080 our lives

01:12:20.560 what do you think about this is

01:12:24.200 something that i think we should

01:12:25.280 explore as we kind of reach this one

01:12:27.180 hour uh and 10 minute mark the the

01:12:31.220 transformation of the way that they

01:12:34.500 worship their gods um because obviously

01:12:38.260 when you go to the vatican it's

01:12:40.300 monotheism uh but when you talk about

01:12:42.680 their their uh when people think of rome

01:12:46.220 it's really polytheism that comes to

01:12:48.500 mind what did it look like when they

01:12:51.260 were worshiping their gods what sort of

01:12:53.360 relationship was it something that was

01:12:56.140 not very culturally significant um is is

01:13:00.820 the polytheistic aspect of roman culture 0.92

01:13:04.120 really a backdrop or were their gods

01:13:06.380 really a tremendous integral part of

01:13:09.180 their culture and what did that look

01:13:10.940 like for them as far as worship and

01:13:12.540 sacrifice and things of that nature

01:13:13.860 it's so interesting to describe because

01:13:16.920 it's so ingrained in everything it almost

01:13:18.740 feels like a secular polytheism if that

01:13:20.600 makes sense like it's such a big part of

01:13:22.460 everything that it actually doesn't feel

01:13:23.740 like it has an effect on anything i know

01:13:25.220 that sounds like a mind fuck but do you

01:13:26.320 get what i'm trying to say

01:13:26.920 um like it's such a big part of

01:13:29.740 everything it's almost taken for granted

01:13:31.040 in a lot of ways

01:13:31.760 um where so for example um the word

01:13:34.020 inauguration that we use when when

01:13:35.480 someone takes office

01:13:36.220 um if you break down the word um augury

01:13:39.880 was basically the the study of bird signs

01:13:42.560 so they would look at the bird signs and

01:13:44.460 they would say okay

01:13:45.200 um i know we just voted on consoles but is

01:13:47.760 this a good day for the guy to take

01:13:48.900 office let's take a look at the birds

01:13:49.980 birds look good we're good to go okay

01:13:52.100 good inauguration this person's in

01:13:53.540 office they would also take a look at

01:13:55.760 um the livers of animals and there's if

01:13:58.820 you go if you go look it up there's like

01:14:00.240 you can actually see a map of like the

01:14:02.400 different parts of the liver and what

01:14:03.660 they believe that that part of the liver

01:14:04.940 could tell them and they would open up

01:14:07.040 an animal cut open the liver and see if 0.81

01:14:09.400 they were getting good good uh you know

01:14:11.460 portents from that liver sometimes um

01:14:14.880 they would say okay let's just get another

01:14:16.960 liver that one lied to us and so it's

01:14:18.900 very often something they're doing or

01:14:20.540 like you know even go back to the world

01:14:22.180 of the greeks you know alexander the

01:14:23.360 great used to sacrifice a bull before

01:14:25.340 every every battle and that's something

01:14:28.760 that is a augustus ends up making that

01:14:31.140 popular again as the first emperor it

01:14:32.480 actually sacrificed a bull for different

01:14:34.020 things but what ends up happening is you

01:14:37.800 have kind of your um regular roman gods

01:14:40.820 but it also import gods of other

01:14:42.360 religions so so constantine for example 0.90

01:14:45.020 he becomes a christian later in life

01:14:46.900 but he's a big worshiper of a god named

01:14:49.000 sol invictus or the immortal son which

01:14:51.140 comes from egypt earlier in his life so

01:14:53.780 what would happen is a lot of the

01:14:55.540 conquered territories gods would come

01:14:56.960 into rome and it was perfectly

01:14:57.940 acceptable to worship those gods

01:14:59.420 and you would really only worship a god

01:15:04.020 on their feast day which is which is a

01:15:05.860 very interesting standpoint a lot of

01:15:07.740 temples might be closed the rest of the

01:15:09.100 year but open on the feast day of that

01:15:10.340 god so it's just a very much

01:15:12.500 that's a funny alexander the great

01:15:15.560 comment um it's it's very much like

01:15:18.880 it's kind of like going through the

01:15:20.120 motions but you have to question do they

01:15:21.660 believe it you know

01:15:22.400 right um that's what i meant is like is

01:15:25.560 there is it a backdrop or is it a

01:15:29.200 something that they really adhered to i i

01:15:31.280 do wonder about uh the the the lengths of

01:15:34.340 their belief or the the sort of the

01:15:36.640 depths of their convictions when it comes

01:15:38.140 to these entities and that's just not

01:15:40.020 something we have enough information on

01:15:42.200 right because it's it's written from the

01:15:43.420 viewpoint of the historians and i i it's

01:15:45.680 you kind of wish that you lived during the

01:15:47.440 time period to know more about it you know

01:15:48.740 even if you did like just right now like

01:15:51.560 you're describing are these people

01:15:53.360 christians we have the the video of

01:15:55.200 donald trump saying i'm not a christian

01:15:58.040 but it looks like he's saying he is and

01:15:59.720 it's like this this uh rorschach test of

01:16:01.980 did he say this or did he say that you

01:16:03.980 know the blue dress the blue and gold

01:16:05.600 dress yes yes um so yeah we wouldn't

01:16:09.160 even know and we don't they didn't have

01:16:11.060 the technology that we did to go back and

01:16:13.040 like reanalyze this stuff it was probably

01:16:14.700 very obscure but the people who took it

01:16:16.420 seriously probably did take it seriously

01:16:18.160 in the background and thanks uh zamaine is

01:16:20.780 awesome for saying props to this guy for

01:16:22.420 reading our comments and somehow still

01:16:23.780 managing to stay focused um i'm i'm good

01:16:25.940 at doing two things at once man i i have

01:16:27.380 three daughters so you have to be able to

01:16:28.980 do many things at once because they're

01:16:30.440 running all over the place um and to

01:16:32.080 your alexander the great comment um yes

01:16:34.320 that is true it's a cultural thing um

01:16:36.220 it was very it was very acceptable in

01:16:39.260 that time period to kind of be doing

01:16:40.680 both things yes but sex is just cultural

01:16:43.020 um so what what i think is interesting is

01:16:46.120 you're talking about inauguration and how

01:16:48.480 it has to do with the birds um and it just

01:16:52.300 started fake and the birds are fake they're

01:16:54.460 not real um it starts to make me go down

01:16:58.400 this line of thought of like they say that

01:17:00.740 this is a christian nation right um and i

01:17:04.860 know that the roman empire certainly does 0.93

01:17:07.680 influence you you alluded to the

01:17:09.720 architecture before um of the west in so

01:17:13.940 many ways if you go to dc everything is is

01:17:16.840 i mean we have a uh and i know this is

01:17:18.780 egyptian but there's a giant obelisk you

01:17:21.680 know in in washington dc uh the pillars on

01:17:24.600 the front of all the buildings just the

01:17:25.800 architecture of the buildings in general

01:17:27.260 but for a a christian nation it seems

01:17:31.080 that the seats of power within america

01:17:34.020 uh don't hold a tremendous amount

01:17:36.860 called robot sex i was laughing at the

01:17:38.680 same thing that's a good shirt that's not

01:17:40.340 a bad shirt i don't know who's gonna wear

01:17:41.600 it on my other show it's a very like heavy

01:17:44.220 we're talking and then we address the

01:17:46.240 audience on nephilim death squad we sort

01:17:48.000 of address them but they're getting to a

01:17:50.020 point where they're so funny where i'm

01:17:51.260 like i'm just glad we have a guest that

01:17:53.140 is like all right these guys but this is

01:17:54.740 what happens when you i enjoy talking to

01:17:57.400 the audience they're always funny as

01:17:58.520 hell on a lot of shows i'm on they're 0.60

01:18:00.220 terrible people but when you ignore them

01:18:02.240 uh they just try to get funnier and we've

01:18:04.880 been ignoring them on this show for some

01:18:06.440 time and they're getting funnier they

01:18:08.260 paid us for on our last episode and like

01:18:10.880 if they if you give a super chat i'll

01:18:12.560 bring it up on the screen because you

01:18:14.020 know it's just out of courtesy but they

01:18:16.020 asked one of our last guests a black

01:18:17.920 dude if he could do an entire episode

01:18:19.480 in black scent and i'm like i gotta pull

01:18:21.360 it up i pulled it up i'm like these

01:18:22.920 these people are running the show i

01:18:24.900 don't know what to do with them they

01:18:25.900 need to be in an asylum really and then 0.78

01:18:27.560 he did black scent and it was the

01:18:28.920 funniest shit yeah what does 07 mean

01:18:31.900 because people oh it's like people keep

01:18:33.880 randomly commenting it it's like a

01:18:35.720 waving like hello yeah like okay i got

01:18:39.060 it i just see it randomly popping up

01:18:40.720 every once in a while

01:18:41.700 they're animals um so but getting back

01:18:44.560 to this sort of um architecture that

01:18:47.920 you'll find in the seats of power in the

01:18:49.440 west uh oftentimes you would be hard

01:18:52.300 pressed to find uh christian iconography

01:18:56.520 but you can find a lot of roman and

01:19:00.400 greek iconography and yes and no because

01:19:03.400 you even look at um uh the the pantheon in

01:19:07.260 rome um it was originally built as a

01:19:09.540 temple to all gods and eventually becomes

01:19:11.240 a church so what what i think does have

01:19:14.160 you look at um the tomb of hadrian which

01:19:16.280 is now called the castel santangelo so a

01:19:18.540 lot of i think at the same time they've

01:19:20.880 the the christian iconography inherited a

01:19:24.180 lot of this stuff too if that makes sense

01:19:26.060 no it does it makes a tremendous amount

01:19:27.680 of sense we see that throughout history

01:19:29.020 it's like um belief systems melding into

01:19:32.400 other belief systems and it really kind

01:19:34.240 of obscures the history of things it

01:19:36.220 makes it very difficult to trace things

01:19:37.720 back because yes they all sort of bleed

01:19:39.880 into one empire bleeds into another empire

01:19:42.660 uh but it's it's interesting because you

01:19:46.600 know the idea of inauguration having to

01:19:48.300 do with the birds and and the birds i would

01:19:51.000 imagine the reason they're interpreting

01:19:52.460 them is because those are a mechanism by

01:19:55.180 which the gods would give them signs right

01:19:57.980 and so there is a lot of what you would

01:20:02.140 call pagan iconography and pagan tradition

01:20:05.560 um that has bled into this idea of the

01:20:10.280 the separation of church and state is

01:20:12.640 really an idea but even a lot of cultural

01:20:15.940 things too like um like these these

01:20:17.860 comments out of control by the way um

01:20:19.440 yeah like they're even a lot of cultural

01:20:20.940 things like for example right um carrying

01:20:23.380 your wife across the threshold right like 0.85

01:20:25.340 this idea of like when you get married you

01:20:26.800 pick her up and kick her into the house 1.00

01:20:27.940 and you guys just got married if you

01:20:29.460 actually knew the story behind that it's

01:20:31.420 like kind of rough man so like romulus who's

01:20:33.360 the first king of rome when he founds rome he

01:20:36.380 founds it only with the the men and

01:20:38.420 criminals he could find to to basically build

01:20:40.380 this city so what's the problem they have

01:20:42.580 no women well what if you don't have any 1.00

01:20:44.060 women you don't have a next generation so 1.00

01:20:45.900 they invite the the neighboring tribe over

01:20:47.840 called the sabines and during dinner they

01:20:50.980 kidnap and rape all the women and this is 0.91

01:20:53.040 called the rape of the sabine women so why 0.99

01:20:55.660 is a woman carried across the threshold well

01:20:57.300 because they were carried by the rome the

01:20:59.780 sabine sabines were carried by the romans 0.97

01:21:01.500 against their will so a lot of cultural

01:21:03.160 things we do are even kind of scary that's

01:21:05.080 so treacherous dude and that's also so

01:21:08.260 and women now are just kind of like oh he's 1.00

01:21:10.380 carrying me across the threshold well if

01:21:12.000 you only knew if you only knew oh my god

01:21:15.900 it's so diabolical dude and it's yeah it's

01:21:19.720 wrong on so many levels right like when you

01:21:21.300 break bread with someone that's supposed

01:21:22.620 to kind of be like a peace treaty here yeah

01:21:25.480 that's oh right in in in christianity there's

01:21:29.740 a there's a real heaviness to inviting

01:21:31.720 people into your home and and hosting

01:21:35.160 people and what you do to them is is

01:21:38.060 supposed to be uh you know everything is

01:21:40.820 about respect and and charity and roman

01:21:44.400 well roman homes are interesting too um

01:21:46.600 because a lot of like the roman system you

01:21:50.100 would call it a client system meaning like

01:21:52.360 you know i have money you could become my

01:21:54.020 client i might do some things for you i

01:21:55.300 might give you better political positions

01:21:56.340 whatever it might be so people's houses

01:21:59.000 were often their home so the further you

01:22:01.480 were let into someone's home showed the

01:22:03.960 kind of higher up you are in the client

01:22:05.820 hierarchy so that even even that 0.86

01:22:07.420 perspective is of you know how you let

01:22:09.140 people in your home is interesting

01:22:10.160 the the pantheon of the roman gods um it was

01:22:15.600 it essentially an exact mirror of the greek

01:22:19.720 pantheon and and what came first uh did

01:22:22.640 they uh adopt these you know it's like uh

01:22:26.160 zeus's counterpart would be jupiter well

01:22:28.980 greek civilization is older than roman 0.99

01:22:30.700 civilization is something you have to

01:22:31.940 consider it's been around a lot longer

01:22:33.440 um and there's quite a few gods that are

01:22:36.820 similar like you know jupiter and zeus or

01:22:38.800 um you know mars and aries and stuff like

01:22:42.140 that but there are some that that don't

01:22:43.400 match as well a lot there's some that are

01:22:46.180 borrowed from greek mythology and there's

01:22:48.360 some that are just created by the romans it's

01:22:50.100 it's roman religion is very interesting because

01:22:52.080 it's like the combination of a lot of

01:22:53.680 different things it's like a kind of

01:22:54.980 kaleidoscope religion and they have some

01:22:58.200 things uniquely theirs but they borrow a lot

01:23:00.000 of stuff from a lot of other cultures

01:23:01.500 um the kind of heyday of athens is is is

01:23:06.020 during the um like mid republic era um but

01:23:09.640 for the most part by the time rome becomes

01:23:11.520 an empire greece um has kind of fallen to

01:23:14.660 alexander the great and then the romans

01:23:16.100 just conquer um the remaining empire of

01:23:19.020 alexander you know gradually over time

01:23:20.880 what do you think are some things that um

01:23:25.040 people really get wrong because we've

01:23:26.840 touched on that a lot and and with

01:23:28.980 something as popular as the idea of the

01:23:30.720 roman empire we said that it entered

01:23:32.160 sort of meme culture i imagine that there

01:23:34.940 is a lot that we're getting wrong we even

01:23:37.040 said so many of us don't actually know

01:23:38.980 thumbs up balance down everybody has it

01:23:40.740 backwards um thumbs up meant to kill

01:23:42.820 him thumbs down meant to meant not to

01:23:44.440 kill him oh really yes interesting how do we

01:23:47.500 get that one give everyone a thumbs down

01:23:49.720 because that's what you want yeah i don't

01:23:51.920 want you to die homie that is i just feel 1.00

01:23:55.880 like there's uh we we do a thing with

01:23:58.720 history it's like a game of telephone

01:24:00.200 and you know history is written by the

01:24:03.200 winner and in many cases and there are

01:24:05.180 obviously texts and things that you can

01:24:06.560 recover that'll kind of shed some light

01:24:08.460 on the on the actual nature of the

01:24:09.840 situation but i think that the west in

01:24:13.200 2024 is especially unique in our game of

01:24:15.680 telephone in that we are willing to talk

01:24:18.740 about a topic we arguably have more as

01:24:22.380 individuals uh more ability to talk about

01:24:25.480 these things thank you for the uh financial

01:24:27.160 support greatly appreciated the nether

01:24:28.520 night uh two dollar tier for life um but in a

01:24:33.800 time where we have more reach uh in our

01:24:38.260 messaging you know platforms like this

01:24:39.980 there's a million podcasts out there

01:24:41.700 everybody has a soapbox to preach from but i

01:24:45.080 also feel like in in conjunction with that

01:24:47.480 we are less likely to do our research and i

01:24:51.260 think that's got something to do with the

01:24:52.760 speed with which our our attention shifts you

01:24:55.780 know it's like everything is is very quick

01:24:58.120 everything is very shallow we're we're on

01:24:59.760 from one topic to the next and i feel like

01:25:01.800 now more so than ever maybe a lot of us are

01:25:05.260 doing uh the work of obfuscating a topic

01:25:08.580 like the the roman empire and i feel like we're

01:25:10.740 getting things we're getting things more

01:25:13.760 wrong and with a louder uh microphone than

01:25:18.580 probably ever before yeah and uh thank you to to

01:25:22.500 amen rat by the way that says he gives this 0.71

01:25:24.140 interview two thumbs down that's what we're

01:25:25.640 trying to get me we don't want we don't want to

01:25:27.060 die well if you want to look at you run like a 0.97

01:25:30.800 social media like a advertised not advertising

01:25:33.880 but like they're gonna build your brain this guy's

01:25:35.620 all about thumbs down it's incredible man

01:25:37.220 well there you go man confusing message

01:25:39.560 thumbs down it's what you want you don't

01:25:41.300 want to have thumbs up thumbs up means they

01:25:42.680 can kill you um but the the actual biggest

01:25:46.900 thing people get wrong and there's going to

01:25:48.320 be a lot of historians that hate me from this

01:25:49.840 um because people will debate the fall year of

01:25:53.680 the roman empire forever i hear a dog um my dog is

01:25:58.020 the whole 476 fall of the the western roman

01:26:00.460 empire and you have to kind of understand the

01:26:03.100 last hundred years of rome is basically

01:26:05.400 barbarian generals just running like 1.00

01:26:08.500 ineffective or child emperors so after 410

01:26:12.120 after the sack of rome by by all the rick your

01:26:15.100 final emperor in 476 is a child named romulus

01:26:18.260 augustus and they actually give him a pension and

01:26:20.700 retire him and um oh the dog said thumbs down

01:26:24.360 great we love that um they actually give him a

01:26:27.420 pension and retire him so rome doesn't fall it

01:26:30.720 literally ends because they say okay no more

01:26:33.980 emperors the king is in charge now so what ends up

01:26:35.940 happening is the eastern roman empire this guy 0.90

01:26:39.240 named justinian famous for the justinian law code

01:26:41.480 and his general belisarius try to unite rome well how do you do

01:26:46.060 that but you burn it down right like you bring in a military and try and destroy 0.95

01:26:49.140 the thing and be like hey i ruled the thing again

01:26:50.680 so that ends up really what ends up happening is justinian destroys the thing

01:26:56.220 in order to reunite it well there's not as much literacy in the west at this

01:27:00.720 point so whose history you're going to be reading you're going to be reading the

01:27:02.880 east history and they don't want to make justinian look bad so oh you know it

01:27:06.800 fell in 476 because the barbarians you know just burned the whole thing down 1.00

01:27:10.740 it really had morphed into a series of of self-sustaining barbarian kingdoms and a

01:27:16.400 lot of former romans were actually working with barbarians to kind of build this 0.65

01:27:20.360 new economy

01:27:20.940 hmm that's not something that you you hear very often when you see um we talked about

01:27:29.760 gladiator before and this is something that i've kind of been wanting to ask and it it's

01:27:35.700 probably a shallow question but it's one of my favorite films uh i just re-watched it

01:27:40.020 it's a really good film man like i hate i love 300 but it's not historically accurate

01:27:43.680 ah well that i figured and that is a great movie i actually watched that with my son recently

01:27:48.860 our alexander commenter will love that one of the most accurate historical films out there is

01:27:53.760 oliver stone's alexander but anyway continue oh uh is that the one with um

01:27:57.740 colin ferrell yeah and that was accurate it's it's pretty good like there are some things they

01:28:01.940 alter but it's for the most part it it honors the story hollywood always embellishes it's you know

01:28:06.800 for entertainment purposes but when it comes to gladiator which i would say out of the ones that

01:28:11.000 we just mentioned i probably my favorite and i am worried about what they're going to do with

01:28:15.960 the new one um what i didn't like about it one of the things that i got into i made a tweet about it

01:28:20.600 was that the the ambiance in gladiator the film it was uh contributed to by this original score

01:28:29.540 and that original score that musical piece uh made you feel like you were immersed in the time era

01:28:36.140 i hate that too that they went with kind of like a a different album for the new one

01:28:40.100 they went with uh jay-z and kanye west um watch the throne album yeah and there i think it was no

01:28:47.440 church in the wild was the song in the preview and look it's it's a preview so maybe maybe they're not

01:28:52.180 going to utilize that but i think that so much of i heard they even put smoke detector chirps

01:28:58.260 inside no that's not true i don't think they did that i don't think that's true that's that's

01:29:02.440 actually misinformation um but i just worry that they're going to you said it's like training day

01:29:07.960 right like you're worried that they're going to go in that direction i just the the best films

01:29:12.160 oftentimes the best films have their own musical score so i'm just confused as to why you would

01:29:16.440 do this sort of did you hear that uh why you would do that sort of a thing and and and pull from modern

01:29:22.640 day music because the idea is to suspend your disbelief and be immersed in the story and i don't want

01:29:29.020 any kind of like cultural things that i can relate to like you know this jay-z song uh but that being

01:29:35.300 said when it comes to the original film gladiator what do you what did they get wrong in that film

01:29:41.200 um well the one of the bigger things is like how the forum would have actually looked um you could

01:29:45.900 if you guys look it up on on youtube you can kind of see different or on x or this is a different

01:29:50.460 place you can see what they actually would have looked like but they kind of mixed up some time

01:29:53.920 periods and i think that's what you see in a lot of these movies is kind of just time periods you

01:29:57.940 know kind of slipping on the track um so so that's a big one is is the forum would have looked

01:30:02.720 different um he um commodus likely didn't fight maximus in the um though he is as i saw strangled

01:30:12.580 by a wrestler named maximus later on that's where they probably get the name from um that likely

01:30:17.660 doesn't happen um commodus doesn't kill um marcus aurelius so that's you know he didn't hug him to

01:30:26.560 death no he and like aurelius is like most of his career fighting a northern tribe called the

01:30:30.880 macromani so that that is very realistic but there's and there's a number of like kind of

01:30:36.040 small minutiae points you could go to on this but it it's a good movie overall um the new one i haven't

01:30:41.380 seen um is it out it may be i don't know um i'm just kind of like like they have there's some

01:30:47.580 historical points i've already kind of taken you know a problem with like the first being

01:30:53.800 the emperor they try to portray is caracalla and um caracalla um wouldn't have been this blonde 0.98

01:31:02.260 haired blue-eyed guy with silver teeth or whatever the hell they do to him um he he was semitic so he

01:31:07.420 was actually um would have been born in the area of like phoenicia or northern africa so he would

01:31:13.120 have been much much darker skinned um not quite black but much much darker skinned and and a different

01:31:18.480 look um and he was also a military commander the name caracalla actually comes from the famous cloak

01:31:23.740 he used to wear all the time um and they try to make him look like this like pretty boy um spoiled

01:31:30.300 guy when he probably was was a brutal dude um in actuality so i think that portrayal is a little weird

01:31:36.560 um i they try to portray denzel denzel washington as macrinus um once again i haven't seen the movie so

01:31:44.040 i don't know how accurate they are this but macrinus would have been the praetorian prefect

01:31:48.600 under um caracalla and is actually part of the group of people that ended up killing um caracalla

01:31:55.000 now he doesn't precede caracalla immediately after that but macrinus will eventually become emperor for

01:31:59.540 about nine months okay so so what you're saying is on that front that's not it seems like they could

01:32:06.960 be going in the correct direction yeah it's it's not out of the out of the the realm of possibility

01:32:10.680 but i haven't seen the new movie enough to kind of have a basis to compare it do you have any

01:32:14.800 interest in seeing it are you gonna see it no believe it or not the same thing you said about

01:32:18.700 the soundtrack that actually really turned me off because i'm like oh man like you know what i mean

01:32:23.240 like you see one of those movies and you want it to feel epic yeah and if you take away the soundtrack

01:32:27.700 like that takes away the epic you know what i mean like star wars was great because john

01:32:31.360 williams did the soundtrack you know yes yes exactly uh lord of the rings was great because of the

01:32:35.820 so many of these i mean gladiator was fantastic because of the soundtrack is a scene at the end

01:32:41.860 where they are uh carrying his body as he is drifting away into death and he's having visions of moving

01:32:50.200 through that wheat field going to see his family and when he passes away and uh and everyone gathers

01:32:57.420 around him to lift him up it then transitions into uh a scene with the man the black guy who basically

01:33:04.280 became his best friend you know through hell uh and he is burying the clay figurines of maximus's

01:33:12.240 family and saying you know one day we will meet again not now but one day and their use of music

01:33:18.100 and and the transition from one song i think it was like called the wheat uh to another song i forget

01:33:24.160 what the what the name of that song was but it was indicative of like there was a sadness and then

01:33:28.660 there was this homage to his life with this power soundtrack and then it rolled back into the

01:33:33.860 sadness but it was a little bit more uplifting with his breath it was a masterful use of it it

01:33:38.260 sticks the movie culturally too to change the soundtrack you know what i mean like if you you

01:33:42.240 can watch a lot of great movies that were made from the 60s till now like um you know like the

01:33:47.900 original caesar movie and stuff like that because the soundtrack it's not stuck in any era like you

01:33:53.020 watch this movie 10 years from now and it's it's a movie that shouldn't be dated is now going to be

01:33:57.040 dated yes exactly that's the problem black annie is what yeah or uh um i do want to ask you one

01:34:04.460 more question and uh well one of the comments first asked if uh if roman empire had red lobster

01:34:09.500 well and soon no one will have red lobster that's right anyway that's right shrimping they were

01:34:14.120 that's what happens i think that would in very many ways endless shrimping is what uh destroyed the

01:34:18.780 roman empire but um i was told we had unlimited shrimp i don't understand um the last one i want

01:34:27.820 to ask you and and uh top i don't know if you have any questions after this but when it comes to

01:34:32.540 maximus himself i know it's like all of a sudden this is about the film but i love the film and i just

01:34:37.320 wanted to get your thoughts on like his character as a historical figure i i don't know really what they

01:34:45.580 would have based him on honestly so i don't know like he's kind of probably a kaleidoscope of

01:34:49.780 different characters they put together um because that would be typical for you know people in the

01:34:56.020 military and like other countries and things to serve in it or maybe if you went into debt in rome

01:34:59.520 you could serve as a as a gladiator um but honestly he just seems like a combination of a lot of different

01:35:05.480 people so i i don't know you know what to say he's based on interesting um you know what i mean like

01:35:11.440 there's different movies you can look at i'm trying to think of one recently i saw where they

01:35:14.380 actually based somebody on two characters but anyway go ahead no but i i that's interesting

01:35:19.600 because you would look at that film and you would imagine uh without having done any research that

01:35:25.220 this was an impactful historical figure and really the idea that he's an amalgamation of you know

01:35:31.700 probably the experiences of of a lot of people and then embellished oh you know what movie it was

01:35:37.580 um the new um gosh the new um oppenheimer movie there was a few characters in that movie that

01:35:45.180 were like amalgamations of what people they didn't know what to do with what to explain so

01:35:48.820 like it is liberty that they often take in hollywood okay it's almost a little bit sad

01:35:53.800 yeah that maximus wasn't wasn't really a dude damn that's a somber note to leave this just messed up

01:36:00.980 this whole day i'm sorry for me dude just ruined it unbelievable um top do you have anything else or

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Nephilim Death Squad - August 28, 2024

053： Repeating The Roman Empire w⧸ Jeremy Ryan Slate

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