Nephilim Death Squad - August 28, 2024


053: Repeating The Roman Empire w⧸ Jeremy Ryan Slate


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 39 minutes

Words per Minute

195.06412

Word Count

19,470

Sentence Count

521

Misogynist Sentences

18

Hate Speech Sentences

75


Summary

Jeremy Slate is a public relations professional who works at a PR agency called Command Your Brand. He has a Master's degree from the University of Toronto and a Bachelor's degree in the Roman Empire. In this episode, we talk about the rise of social media and how it changed the way we think about history.


Transcript

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00:01:34.840 We are being hypnotized by people like this.
00:01:40.780 News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.
00:01:45.180 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
00:01:54.140 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely different.
00:02:00.060 Oh, yeah, dude.
00:02:01.220 There's some Nephilim shit.
00:02:02.380 Welcome back to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.
00:02:32.360 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.
00:02:36.600 That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.
00:02:40.760 And today we are joined by our guest, Jeremy Slate.
00:02:44.980 We're going to discuss a bunch of topics ranging from maybe some Nephilim shit,
00:02:48.980 but all the way to the Roman Empire.
00:02:51.400 But before we get into that, Jeremy, can you please let the people know a little bit about what it is you do
00:02:56.840 and where they can find your work?
00:02:59.500 Well, thankfully, I read a YouTube comment only 10 minutes before this conversation.
00:03:03.680 And luckily, I had this scheduled, so I didn't have enough time to end my existence,
00:03:06.880 as the commenter suggested.
00:03:08.220 So I'm stoked to be hanging out with you guys today.
00:03:11.600 I run a PR agency called Command Your Brand.
00:03:13.840 We focus on podcasts and new media.
00:03:15.660 You can find us at commandyourbrand.com.
00:03:17.820 I also have a master's degree.
00:03:21.040 I like to say in the Roman Empire, but it's actually in the propaganda of Augustus.
00:03:24.200 And I say Roman Empire so people understand that a little bit better.
00:03:27.140 But I studied this in school, gosh, almost 15 years ago now.
00:03:31.600 And then all of a sudden on TikTok, people started thinking about the Roman Empire.
00:03:35.000 My wife's like, honey, you're relevant.
00:03:36.680 I'm like, I thought I was relevant yesterday.
00:03:38.760 I'm more relevant today.
00:03:40.300 And it's been quite a year, man.
00:03:41.840 All that stuff you've been annoying me with for the last 10 years, honey,
00:03:44.640 you can now talk to somebody else about.
00:03:46.380 And I feel like...
00:03:46.980 Trust me, man.
00:03:47.720 She loves it.
00:03:48.360 We go to a museum or to Italy because like...
00:03:50.580 So we're going to the Natural History Museum on Thursday.
00:03:53.220 And like, they're going to love it.
00:03:55.380 Like, these are the times they appreciate me.
00:03:59.200 Do you talk to random people?
00:04:00.900 Like, be like, that's actually not true.
00:04:02.760 Like, in the museum.
00:04:03.500 No, I don't like...
00:04:05.120 So I don't like doing that because like, like, gym culture has been a big part of my life.
00:04:09.220 And people like that annoy the hell out of me.
00:04:10.940 They walk over like, you know, if you change that angle just a little bit,
00:04:14.000 you'd be doing it the right way.
00:04:15.260 And I'm like...
00:04:16.240 So I'm not a big fan of that.
00:04:17.660 And I will tell you, it has happened before.
00:04:19.960 I've ended up...
00:04:21.180 Last time we were in Rome.
00:04:22.420 So this is like five or six years ago.
00:04:24.980 I ended up unintentionally doing a free tour.
00:04:27.420 Like, it just kind of happens.
00:04:28.440 Like, where I'm explaining something to my wife.
00:04:29.800 And like, the old couple with curly hair next to you starts slowly moving over towards you.
00:04:34.300 You know, like the old lady curly hair where they have like the fro going on.
00:04:36.780 They start slowly moving next to you.
00:04:38.720 And next thing you know, there's another group slowly moving next to you.
00:04:41.720 And next thing you know, you have a tour of 10 people.
00:04:43.400 That has happened before.
00:04:43.860 You start charging.
00:04:44.780 You got to just be like...
00:04:45.400 No, that's when you have to start...
00:04:47.060 You have to start defending yourself.
00:04:48.680 You're getting into turf wars with other tour guides.
00:04:52.320 Like, hey, man.
00:04:53.420 You're not welcome in these parts.
00:04:54.860 I had no intention of being a guide, man.
00:04:57.760 That's cool, though.
00:04:58.480 I like the way that works out.
00:04:59.440 I swear.
00:05:00.060 Put the knife away.
00:05:01.320 Is it often, Jeremy, that if you're out there and you're doing that, do you hear them missing the mark?
00:05:07.560 Yes and no.
00:05:09.240 Because I don't know.
00:05:09.820 Like, I think part of the problem with history is a lot of history is perspective.
00:05:13.860 So it depends on whose opinion you're reading or what information you're reading.
00:05:16.620 Because most history of reading, as much as people want to say it's based in fact, unless it's something happened in a certain year, a lot of it's opinion.
00:05:22.640 And I think that's if you look at political figures like Julius Caesar, he's vilified throughout history.
00:05:28.840 And he was kind of just a man of his era and a better politician than the rest of them.
00:05:33.080 So it's very interesting to get viewpoints on history.
00:05:36.180 Yeah, I mean, think about you're on Twitter.
00:05:39.660 So what we look at is history.
00:05:41.280 And what got me interested in being a voice on Twitter or just doing anything was like I'm watching them write history.
00:05:47.840 And I'm like, but that's not quite true.
00:05:49.280 And that's in real time.
00:05:50.880 So imagine, you know, we're talking hundreds of years ago.
00:05:54.820 The facts have been lost probably right off the bat.
00:05:57.240 So who the hell knows what happened?
00:05:58.920 And then there's this alternative history.
00:06:00.620 Or I don't know if you delve into that kind of stuff.
00:06:03.860 Oh, dude, I have read some stuff.
00:06:06.880 I'm a big Eric Von Daniken fan.
00:06:08.920 I'm a big fan of, oh, gosh, what's his name?
00:06:14.140 What's from the Dallas Morning News?
00:06:15.940 Jim Mars.
00:06:16.760 A lot of his stuff is really, really good.
00:06:18.040 So I've read some stuff, man.
00:06:19.980 I like Von Daniken's take on things, even though I feel like he almost ruined his brand going into the ancient aliens side of things,
00:06:28.280 only because there was a time when ancient aliens might have been something that was very compelling.
00:06:33.100 And it certainly was when it first came out.
00:06:34.820 But since then, they've just beaten that brand to death, trying to keep the series alive.
00:06:40.460 And I think that Eric Von Daniken's association with it might be a little bit to his detriment.
00:06:44.320 Although, you know, if you start to grab his books, you realize, like, oh, this guy is a legitimate researcher and a pretty impressive mind when it comes to the ideas that he has surrounding ancient, obscured history.
00:06:54.560 I've read his books, by the way.
00:06:56.800 I haven't, like, consumed any.
00:06:57.880 Like, I don't really know anything about the television show.
00:06:59.460 I don't know about that guy, Giorgio, with the crazy hair.
00:07:01.000 Yes.
00:07:01.240 That's about it.
00:07:02.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:03.380 I mean, it was a fun show.
00:07:05.560 You know, at the height of ancient aliens, it was a good show to get into.
00:07:09.240 And it was interesting, some of the ideas that they were exploring.
00:07:11.840 But I think they just started to reach to every possible thing they could to call it, you know, aliens.
00:07:17.380 This was created by aliens.
00:07:18.300 That was created by aliens.
00:07:19.160 And I don't know what season we're in.
00:07:20.420 What you're describing is this show.
00:07:21.600 Literally this show.
00:07:22.780 This show above the Nephilim.
00:07:24.820 I have a friend like that, though.
00:07:26.920 Like, you'll get into a long discussion with him, and it's like Democrats, Republicans, aliens.
00:07:31.100 Like, you get there, and you're like, I see how you did that.
00:07:34.220 I'm actually pretty impressed.
00:07:35.480 It's not a far jump.
00:07:36.620 It's actually a little bit of just a skip.
00:07:38.700 It's, like, right there.
00:07:39.920 But I wanted to ask you.
00:07:41.160 I have a question.
00:07:41.800 Oh, yeah, fine.
00:07:42.640 So, throughout the Roman Empire, has there been any folklore or tales of alien interference with any of the leadership?
00:07:51.660 Because we have all the way back to, I think, like, Abraham Lincoln saw aliens.
00:07:55.440 There's, like, folklore like that.
00:07:57.720 So, it's like, might have happened.
00:07:59.300 Not sure.
00:07:59.920 But do you know anything about that?
00:08:01.780 So, I guess you have to look at their viewpoint on the world as different.
00:08:05.200 And they live in an age when, you know, gods walked among men, right?
00:08:09.680 And a lot of that comes from the Greek viewpoint.
00:08:11.900 The Greeks kind of saw gods actually walking the earth as more of a thing.
00:08:15.720 Like, hey, you might run into Hercules.
00:08:17.520 The Romans, that doesn't really become as much of a thing for them until, like, around the year 100, sort of, like, around the second century.
00:08:25.680 You start to get a lot of the Greek culture that comes into Rome, and that's called the Hellenization of Rome.
00:08:29.940 The Greeks wouldn't have called themselves Greeks.
00:08:31.640 They would have called themselves Hellenes.
00:08:33.280 So, that's really more of what you're looking at.
00:08:35.720 Like, you know, hey, this chick slept with Hercules and had a kid.
00:08:38.480 But they wouldn't have seen aliens as far as I know.
00:08:41.660 Once again, if there's somebody else out there that has information about that, I'd love to hear it.
00:08:45.240 But I haven't seen that in anything I've read.
00:08:49.700 Yeah.
00:08:50.340 Oh, go ahead, Top.
00:08:51.600 Yeah.
00:08:51.860 I mean, the alien thing is to our, I guess, what we think of it is as a rebranding.
00:08:59.160 So, you know, the people back then would not have seen the aliens.
00:09:04.060 That's the point I'm making.
00:09:05.580 Yeah, they're presenting themselves to us, obviously, in a technological way that we need to understand.
00:09:09.860 But for them, it could have been more of a truer form.
00:09:13.520 Like, you know, Hercules, in our opinion, would have been the Nephilim.
00:09:16.940 He's the product of a half-man, half-god, right?
00:09:19.520 Demigod sort of thing.
00:09:20.820 That's exactly what the Nephilim is.
00:09:22.260 It's a product of the fallen angel, a female human being, and then you get this half-god type of thing, which manifests itself as giants and, you know, whatever kind of folklore you like to think about the Raphael.
00:09:35.620 The overlap is actually tremendous because in so many of the ways, like, I know that Zeus in Greek mythology would have transformed commonly into an eagle.
00:09:47.500 I believe there's even precedence.
00:09:49.300 I don't know if it's in the story of Perseus and the time that his mother was visited.
00:09:55.900 And I know this is Greek mythology, but obviously there's a lot of over that.
00:09:58.700 I have a little bit of that.
00:09:59.780 I named my daughter after a Greek god, so.
00:10:02.920 Very cool.
00:10:03.520 Which one?
00:10:04.940 Persephone.
00:10:05.580 That's a banger of a name.
00:10:06.760 It's a beautiful name, too.
00:10:07.680 It is a beautiful name.
00:10:08.580 But there's even this story.
00:10:11.980 I believe he appears to Perseus' mother as a swan.
00:10:16.080 And so when you have, like, the transmutation or the transfiguration from, you know, this sort of humanoid-looking god into an animal, this is the same attributes that the fallen will display.
00:10:27.900 So it really is the same story.
00:10:31.400 You know, I won't get into it too much, but spoiler alert for those who haven't watched The Watchers, there is this element where they're talking about fairy lore in this film.
00:10:42.580 This is a new film that appeared recently.
00:10:44.240 And as you're watching this, you can see the exact same story told just from the point of view of, I guess, what would be Celtic culture.
00:10:54.020 These entities that even bear image to the fallen in the sense that they're like these angels of light with wings.
00:11:02.760 And they have offspring with human women, and those offspring are a different species.
00:11:08.360 It's the same thing.
00:11:09.020 You see this repeated throughout history.
00:11:11.060 But I often wonder—
00:11:12.640 That's the whole idea of the Anunnaki, right?
00:11:14.340 Like, that's the Enki and all that stuff, how they actually, you know, breed with humans and everything.
00:11:19.660 Yes, and the Anunnaki has a different kind of—
00:11:24.340 So a lot of these stories, they remain really parallel to the truth, I think, but they deviate in very important factors.
00:11:31.220 And I think that's because the best lie is one that maintains as closely parallel to the truth as possible.
00:11:35.760 But where the Anunnaki deviate in a way that I think is very damning if you should adhere to this ideology is that they created us and that we're essentially a slave race who at one point was used to harvest gold to suspend in their atmosphere because their planet, Nibiru, or something of that nature.
00:11:54.860 I know this is really Zachariah Sitchin's interpretation of it, but it just paints us as a slave race instead of something that they were actually jealous of, created by God, and then rebelled against him and have been essentially our mortal enemies for some time.
00:12:09.100 It's a pretty clever twist if you want to demoralize people.
00:12:13.620 Well, it's a good story, too, though, and I enjoy a good story.
00:12:16.000 It's a great story.
00:12:17.660 It's a great story.
00:12:18.460 It's almost like the idea of global warming, right?
00:12:23.420 Like it's this story that, yeah, the climate is changing, but then it's kind of like this one lie that deviates you into some destructive behaviors.
00:12:31.700 And you had messaged me before something about global warming, right?
00:12:34.740 It's a really old lie, man, because I'm a big believer that climate goes through cycles.
00:12:40.580 I'm not a climatologist.
00:12:42.040 I don't have, you know, not a biologist either.
00:12:43.800 Well, to interrupt, Jeremy, isn't it not even a matter of belief?
00:12:46.480 This is just what happens.
00:12:47.520 We can see that we go through ice ages and things of that nature, right?
00:12:50.760 So it's, yeah, this is a thing that constantly is in flux.
00:12:55.020 Well, because even in the Roman Empire.
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00:13:55.580 It grows, you know, because they're good at politics, they're good at conquest, and things like that.
00:13:59.840 But they also have a really good situation going on at the planet at that time.
00:14:03.060 It's called the Roman Climate Optimum.
00:14:04.640 So about the year 200 B.C. to around the year 400 A.D. is when they say the end of it is.
00:14:11.460 So we kind of cross the Jesus line in the middle there.
00:14:14.720 But it really starts to go downhill around 180 A.D.
00:14:18.420 But what happens during this time period is they can grow a lot more grain.
00:14:21.920 So they can feed a lot more people.
00:14:23.200 And in the Empire period, so the Republic period ends around 31 B.C.,
00:14:27.900 but from the Empire period, which is 31 B.C. to 476 A.D.,
00:14:32.780 they have Egypt as a place to get a lot more grain.
00:14:37.140 What would happen every year is the Nile River would flood the delta,
00:14:40.200 and then the delta would dry out and be a great place to grow new grain.
00:14:44.320 So that was actually how they fed the whole empire.
00:14:47.100 You start to have climate change happening around the 180s,
00:14:49.980 and the price of grain is doubling, tripling, and going up.
00:14:55.080 So then you have in, I think, 248 or 249, somewhere around there,
00:14:58.460 there's this emperor named Decius, and he gets a little freaked out by this
00:15:01.980 because they also have barbarian invasions and other stuff going on.
00:15:05.220 So they say, you know what?
00:15:06.980 We're going to start mandating everyone's sacrifice to the gods.
00:15:11.140 That'll make the climate get better.
00:15:13.320 And so, you know, you kind of have your first carbon credits.
00:15:16.520 No, just kidding.
00:15:17.500 You have your first idea of, you know,
00:15:20.300 we think that we can change this just by, you know,
00:15:23.200 sacrificing the gods in this way.
00:15:24.300 That's actually terrifying that you made that joke
00:15:26.680 because it's not, it's when you said it, I was like, funny.
00:15:30.220 And then I said, oh, no, that's not funny at all
00:15:32.020 because it's exactly what they're doing.
00:15:33.700 Like, the idea of a climate credit is to,
00:15:37.080 I mean, they're almost trying to kill a certain amount of a population
00:15:40.080 with, whether it be with taxes or,
00:15:43.080 I mean, if you think about like the extrapolated long-term damage
00:15:45.920 that they would do with something that detrimental,
00:15:48.540 it results in human death.
00:15:50.060 So I wonder if that is like their crossover of a human sacrifice.
00:15:54.480 Well, the question that I always have,
00:15:56.500 because I know a lot of historians will talk about
00:16:00.120 people of the Roman era or whatever in a certain way,
00:16:02.820 that you always ask yourself,
00:16:03.720 well, do the people in power actually believe this?
00:16:07.500 Like Caesar at the kind of the turn of the Republican Empire,
00:16:11.220 he holds an office called Pontius Maximus,
00:16:13.440 which is the top religious office in Rome.
00:16:16.760 And there's a lot of thoughts, well, does he even believe this?
00:16:20.160 So you have to be curious, like, just like the climate police nowadays,
00:16:24.480 do they actually believe what they're foisting upon you
00:16:27.240 or is it just another control mechanism?
00:16:29.740 The Pontius Maximus thing,
00:16:31.320 isn't that more or less the first instance of the Pope?
00:16:34.800 Well, the Pope takes that name because what ends up happening is
00:16:39.460 in the 280s, the empire is not really doing so well.
00:16:44.420 So Diocletian creates this system called the Tetrarchy.
00:16:47.040 It breaks the empire into four,
00:16:48.320 which is actually going to solidify into about a two,
00:16:51.040 an east and west.
00:16:52.480 And a lot of the verbiage he uses during that time,
00:16:55.140 like diocese, which comes from his own name,
00:16:57.640 or pontiff, some of these different words that he uses
00:17:01.520 are actually words that as the empire starts to fall
00:17:04.240 and the church kind of transitions after that,
00:17:06.020 they're going to borrow a lot of that verbiage
00:17:07.360 because it would be verbiage people understand.
00:17:09.860 So Rome doesn't really have a separation
00:17:12.440 between the spiritual and temporal.
00:17:14.980 And you're going to see that in how a lot of the,
00:17:17.100 I guess, early formation of like how different dioceses
00:17:19.760 are set up and the verbiage that's used.
00:17:21.180 But I don't necessarily know if it's like,
00:17:23.960 you know, the emperor's handing off the keys to the Pope
00:17:26.360 and being like, go at it, man.
00:17:27.740 It's funny, isn't this guy, like,
00:17:29.580 you want to talk about an ego, right?
00:17:32.880 Which certainly you have to have one
00:17:34.200 to be in that sort of a position.
00:17:36.200 But to go, I'm going to make the word thinking.
00:17:39.400 I'm going to introduce mine.
00:17:40.700 Like pontificate sounds like it literally is derived.
00:17:44.040 He's like, thinking is now, yeah,
00:17:45.700 but it's only done through me.
00:17:47.240 Like that is, I want to be associated with thinking.
00:17:49.840 He literally made a word about that.
00:17:51.100 But I see this parallel that you're drawing, right?
00:17:55.400 Between climate change, even the idea of inflation, right?
00:17:58.080 Because the cost of grain is going up.
00:18:01.500 We have this, even the reintroduction of sacrifice,
00:18:06.920 which to some extent we're in the middle of right now.
00:18:09.740 We might start to see that happening again
00:18:11.360 when it comes to the red heifers.
00:18:12.880 I don't know how familiar you are with that, but-
00:18:14.680 I'm not super familiar,
00:18:15.780 but I know like we're looking for it at some point
00:18:17.320 and when we find it, like good stuff will not happen.
00:18:19.680 Yeah, I mean, they've essentially found it allegedly,
00:18:22.060 but they put it under wraps
00:18:23.000 because I think the media got too hot.
00:18:24.740 This became a really hot button issue,
00:18:26.340 especially after the Hamas hang gliding situation
00:18:30.160 where they said that there was an element
00:18:32.140 of the red heifers having been discovered
00:18:35.660 that drove them to this attack, among other things.
00:18:38.440 But this was something that they said on television.
00:18:41.160 And so, you know,
00:18:42.900 you have a lot of these elements returning.
00:18:44.700 And right now we have this meme, right?
00:18:48.640 This, how often do you think about the Roman Empire?
00:18:52.020 And I find memes fascinating
00:18:53.800 because the reason they catch fire culturally
00:18:57.380 is because they resonate so deeply with us culturally.
00:19:00.760 And there are a lot of things.
00:19:02.540 I suspect that this has a lot to do
00:19:05.800 with sort of the fall of the Roman Empire
00:19:08.540 and the many ways in which it mirrors,
00:19:11.400 you know, modern day issues.
00:19:13.960 And I wonder if that is the reason
00:19:16.180 that people are paying attention.
00:19:17.380 That's the reason so many people are thinking
00:19:18.980 about the Roman Empire allegedly on a daily basis.
00:19:21.180 But I wanted to get your thoughts on that,
00:19:24.000 especially when it comes to the sudden rise
00:19:27.640 in the cultural significance of, you know, Rome,
00:19:31.420 the Roman Empire.
00:19:32.440 Well, you know what's really surprised me?
00:19:35.340 And because I thought very similar to you
00:19:37.700 in the beginning of this,
00:19:39.060 the more of these conversations I had,
00:19:41.740 I just found out people just,
00:19:43.480 they know absolutely nothing about Rome.
00:19:44.860 That's what I found out.
00:19:45.760 And that's been very surprising to me.
00:19:47.000 Like what they know is from watching Joaquin Phoenix
00:19:50.140 and the movie Gladiator.
00:19:51.260 It's a good movie, dude.
00:19:52.700 It was a great movie.
00:19:53.800 I'm a little concerned about watching the next one though
00:19:55.700 because it kind of looks like Training Day in Rome
00:19:57.280 and I'm a little worried that's the direction
00:19:58.960 they went with it.
00:19:59.800 Yeah.
00:20:00.360 But the thing that's been surprising to me
00:20:02.060 is that people actually know very little about Rome.
00:20:05.200 And what I've found is to me,
00:20:07.620 after having these conversations,
00:20:08.700 it feels more like people are reaching for something
00:20:11.540 because they feel like,
00:20:14.320 I guess number one,
00:20:15.560 and I was talking to Sam Tripoli about this,
00:20:17.520 I feel like there's not really a place
00:20:19.060 for men in society anymore.
00:20:20.900 You're told being masculine isn't such a good thing.
00:20:24.300 We need equity and we need all these other things.
00:20:26.360 You can't just go earn something.
00:20:28.080 And I think people look at the Roman Empire
00:20:30.340 and they see it as a period of time
00:20:32.080 when conquest was still a thing
00:20:33.980 and expanding was still a thing
00:20:35.220 and adventure was real.
00:20:37.160 And to me,
00:20:37.960 that's actually what I see of the social zeitgeist
00:20:40.900 is people looking for something else
00:20:45.060 because what we're doing right now
00:20:47.000 just feels like we're not really going anywhere.
00:20:49.280 Do you get what I'm saying?
00:20:51.500 Yeah.
00:20:52.080 A lot of those same people are looking at Hitler,
00:20:56.180 things like that,
00:20:57.100 like Nazi Germany.
00:20:57.980 I was like,
00:20:58.240 that wasn't so cool either, guys.
00:21:00.480 Maybe we could look at something else
00:21:03.160 that didn't end up with Dresden firebombed.
00:21:07.580 They're looking for a way out.
00:21:08.860 It's kind of sad.
00:21:09.960 And do you suspect at all
00:21:12.520 that there's a cultural engineering behind that?
00:21:14.980 Because it just seems like,
00:21:17.660 you know,
00:21:17.960 you have this demoralization of men
00:21:20.380 labeling masculinity as being toxic.
00:21:24.920 Really the last five to seven years,
00:21:28.520 probably actually more since the Obama administration,
00:21:30.700 once they introduced kind of political correctness
00:21:35.120 into our sphere of awareness,
00:21:37.060 it's really been men are
00:21:40.040 and their traits are less desirable
00:21:42.780 for a society.
00:21:45.160 And then you have this thing
00:21:47.960 that's on the horizon.
00:21:48.900 Top just alluded to it.
00:21:49.900 You have a lot of Hitler appreciation,
00:21:52.460 a lot of certainly the memes
00:21:54.860 surrounding the Roman Empire, right?
00:21:57.400 And kind of the culture around,
00:21:59.740 I think even this idea,
00:22:02.240 like Stoicism,
00:22:03.240 Stoicism came back in a huge way
00:22:05.820 over the last,
00:22:07.280 Stoicism, I'm sorry.
00:22:08.620 There's not a word that I won't butcher.
00:22:11.620 That came back in a big way.
00:22:13.320 I think I even have like musings by Marcus Aurelius.
00:22:15.940 I've never read it.
00:22:17.700 But there are these things
00:22:20.260 that have been ingested
00:22:21.380 or injected into the culture.
00:22:23.260 And they seem to be a direct response
00:22:25.200 to the things that were being subdued,
00:22:27.860 you know, in the way of masculinity.
00:22:29.500 Do you think that there's a cultural engineering aspect to this?
00:22:32.080 Is this done on purpose?
00:22:32.960 Or is this all just a natural cycle or reaction?
00:22:37.220 Maybe it's just what happens
00:22:38.420 when you get to the point of
00:22:39.760 a society that has a disproportionate amount of wealth.
00:22:43.420 You know, there's a contrast, right?
00:22:46.200 I think that's one of the things
00:22:47.100 that we see in Rome too,
00:22:48.440 is like decadence.
00:22:49.440 And then also the destitute and the poor.
00:22:54.240 That separation of, I guess, status
00:23:00.100 is very dramatic today.
00:23:02.600 And I think it might've been very dramatic in Rome.
00:23:05.160 Do you think that there's a cultural engineering aspect
00:23:07.440 or is this just natural?
00:23:09.400 That's tough
00:23:10.040 because I can kind of see it both ways.
00:23:11.840 And if you look at it,
00:23:12.760 I think one of the major things in the US
00:23:14.640 is our education system
00:23:16.260 has changed dramatically over the past 100 years.
00:23:19.440 And it changed really around the industrial revolution
00:23:21.560 of you want people that can work in factories,
00:23:23.420 could do menial jobs and things like that.
00:23:25.940 Earlier on,
00:23:27.380 a classical education would have included Latin.
00:23:29.780 It would have included learning the history of Rome
00:23:31.740 or included learning great speakers.
00:23:33.740 And we really just don't do that anymore.
00:23:35.660 It's not even approached.
00:23:37.060 So I think if you have to look at it
00:23:38.440 from that perspective,
00:23:39.400 well, that's definitely concocted.
00:23:40.900 Like someone decided that at some point in time,
00:23:43.020 we're going to stop teaching these things.
00:23:45.000 So you have to really wonder,
00:23:46.820 and that's kind of around
00:23:47.960 your Rockefeller era in time, right?
00:23:50.280 Like when a lot of this stuff starts changing
00:23:52.020 is during the industrial revolution.
00:23:53.460 So you have to wonder if it's kind of kept away
00:23:56.720 as like a knowledge you're not supposed to have
00:23:59.080 to understand of, you know,
00:24:01.080 like what people have done before,
00:24:03.140 what they've created before.
00:24:04.080 And it's kind of just been an experiment
00:24:05.540 we've been going on.
00:24:06.720 Because if you look at even history now,
00:24:09.200 you know, we're getting rid of Thomas Jefferson.
00:24:11.160 We're getting rid of these different things
00:24:12.580 because people that don't have a history,
00:24:15.760 they live in an endless present.
00:24:17.220 And if people don't have a history,
00:24:18.600 you can tell them what their future is.
00:24:20.560 There's a Rage Against the Machine song.
00:24:22.020 I'm trying to remember now.
00:24:23.500 What is it?
00:24:23.760 Who controls the past, controls the future.
00:24:25.940 And then so it's very similar
00:24:27.640 to what I see us going through.
00:24:30.320 So if you don't know the experiences
00:24:31.780 we had before,
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00:25:01.220 Man, even if you do know,
00:25:05.660 you just mentioned Rage Against the Machine.
00:25:07.340 It's kind of amazing.
00:25:08.080 Like they were aware.
00:25:09.040 They're raging for it now, man.
00:25:10.580 Yeah, exactly.
00:25:11.920 Honestly, they might be at the point
00:25:14.420 where they're so aware
00:25:15.300 where they're just like,
00:25:16.020 you know what?
00:25:16.360 I'm just going to take the fucking money
00:25:17.680 and that's it.
00:25:18.780 And I don't blame them.
00:25:19.820 I don't blame them.
00:25:20.720 Yeah.
00:25:21.140 I do wonder if there's this element of,
00:25:23.320 we've been talking about the pressure cooker.
00:25:25.260 So if you suppress these things
00:25:27.920 and you hide history from people
00:25:30.600 and you tell them
00:25:32.520 they can't talk about things,
00:25:33.500 you can't express masculinity,
00:25:35.120 things of these natures,
00:25:36.000 you're really just creating
00:25:37.060 a pressure cooker.
00:25:38.000 And what I wonder is
00:25:39.700 if we're going to see
00:25:40.800 a disproportionate rebound
00:25:42.860 once people break out
00:25:46.220 of the pressure cooker,
00:25:47.060 once these topics hit
00:25:48.520 the mainstream conversation.
00:25:49.060 Like an overcorrection,
00:25:50.120 you're saying?
00:25:50.600 Yes, an overcorrection
00:25:51.640 is exactly what I'm saying.
00:25:53.020 What did this look like
00:25:53.960 during the Roman Empire?
00:25:55.020 Because I feel like
00:25:55.720 that might be our best guess
00:25:57.520 of what would happen.
00:25:58.640 From what perspective?
00:26:02.080 The fall,
00:26:03.500 as it was falling.
00:26:05.100 So I guess that's tough too
00:26:06.540 because what most people
00:26:08.200 have been told about the fall,
00:26:09.500 you know,
00:26:10.220 once again,
00:26:10.940 really isn't,
00:26:11.680 it's not a fall.
00:26:13.180 Like Rome really just fades out
00:26:14.520 in the West.
00:26:15.380 In the East,
00:26:15.840 it goes for another
00:26:16.780 almost 1,000 years.
00:26:18.260 It falls in the West
00:26:19.560 in 476
00:26:21.520 and in the East
00:26:22.300 doesn't fall until 1453
00:26:23.520 to the Ottomans.
00:26:25.280 So it takes a very long time
00:26:26.840 to get to that point.
00:26:28.040 But if you look at Rome,
00:26:29.500 the 3rd century
00:26:30.400 is really when,
00:26:32.360 the 3rd century being,
00:26:33.400 you know,
00:26:33.680 200 to about the year 300,
00:26:35.820 is when Romans thought
00:26:37.380 their world was ending.
00:26:38.880 They had just come out
00:26:40.020 of a massive plague
00:26:42.140 in the late 2nd century
00:26:44.820 called the Antonine Plague
00:26:45.760 where about 10%
00:26:46.460 of the empire dies.
00:26:48.100 You have this need
00:26:50.000 for military
00:26:51.380 to basically control everything
00:26:53.340 because what happens is,
00:26:54.780 you mentioned Marcus Aurelius,
00:26:56.060 he's the last of what's called
00:26:57.920 the five good emperors
00:26:59.040 and they had a policy
00:27:00.300 of taking the most qualified
00:27:02.060 person around them,
00:27:03.620 adopting them,
00:27:04.480 and then naming them
00:27:05.220 their successor.
00:27:05.940 They would do it
00:27:06.300 with a full adult,
00:27:06.920 which is a little bit weird,
00:27:07.660 I guess,
00:27:07.960 but they'd be like,
00:27:08.460 hey, this general
00:27:09.040 is now my kid
00:27:09.760 and he's going to be
00:27:10.760 the next emperor.
00:27:11.680 And that happens
00:27:12.300 for five emperors.
00:27:13.740 It's a pretty successful pattern
00:27:15.220 and you have actually
00:27:16.540 a very stable empire
00:27:17.780 during that period.
00:27:19.260 He changes the pattern
00:27:20.320 and he names his son,
00:27:21.880 Commodus,
00:27:22.480 not Joaquin Phoenix,
00:27:23.780 to be the next emperor.
00:27:24.960 And Commodus
00:27:26.760 has no interest in ruling.
00:27:28.260 He wants to be a gladiator.
00:27:29.640 He wants people
00:27:31.140 to love him.
00:27:31.900 So he wastes
00:27:32.560 a lot of the empire's money.
00:27:34.140 He's fighting
00:27:34.900 in the arena every day,
00:27:35.880 but he would do it
00:27:36.380 from a platform
00:27:36.920 because he's a little wimp
00:27:37.840 and he didn't want
00:27:38.340 to actually threaten
00:27:38.920 his own life.
00:27:40.500 And in 192,
00:27:42.380 there's actually
00:27:43.000 several attempts
00:27:43.880 to kill him
00:27:44.500 because they hated him
00:27:46.320 so bad.
00:27:47.140 The first,
00:27:47.780 they try to poison his wine.
00:27:49.140 They give him too much poison
00:27:50.100 and he ends up
00:27:50.580 throwing it up.
00:27:51.800 And the second,
00:27:52.560 they actually have a wrestler,
00:27:53.540 believe it or not,
00:27:54.840 named Maximus,
00:27:55.700 strangle him to death.
00:27:56.680 And that ends up being
00:27:57.480 the end of Commodus' life.
00:28:00.520 And from that point forward,
00:28:02.580 you have a lot of upheaval
00:28:04.100 in how the actual
00:28:05.820 succession of emperors goes.
00:28:08.340 You can't just brush over that.
00:28:09.580 So they had a wrestler
00:28:10.480 choke him to death.
00:28:12.760 Was this in combat
00:28:14.040 or was this in the street?
00:28:15.420 No, no.
00:28:16.040 He had just thrown up
00:28:17.020 all this poison
00:28:17.600 and he hadn't died from it.
00:28:18.700 They're like,
00:28:18.900 hey, wrestler,
00:28:19.460 come here.
00:28:19.720 Let's strangle the guy to death.
00:28:21.340 So it wasn't like...
00:28:22.360 Right after.
00:28:23.140 Yeah, right after.
00:28:24.360 Yeah.
00:28:24.500 So it's like the second
00:28:25.160 assassination attempt.
00:28:26.720 Damn.
00:28:27.840 So he dies
00:28:29.280 and he's one of only
00:28:30.740 two emperors,
00:28:31.420 by the way,
00:28:31.740 to have his body
00:28:32.520 drug through the streets
00:28:33.540 and then thrown into the Tiber
00:28:34.600 because they hated him so much.
00:28:36.120 Oh, wow.
00:28:37.020 And after that point,
00:28:39.520 you have the...
00:28:40.540 What really changes
00:28:41.500 is how the succession
00:28:43.400 of emperors
00:28:43.960 is after that point.
00:28:44.780 It's a dramatic change.
00:28:46.880 You have what's called
00:28:47.680 the barrack emperors,
00:28:48.880 barrack meaning military barracks.
00:28:50.540 And what would happen is
00:28:51.900 an army would declare
00:28:53.580 their general
00:28:54.400 to be the guy in charge.
00:28:56.040 And it's kind of comical
00:28:58.080 when you think of it
00:28:58.620 because you would have
00:28:59.220 to wear purple
00:28:59.720 so they would take
00:29:00.220 all their flags
00:29:00.880 and sew them together
00:29:01.680 and be like,
00:29:02.320 hey, you know,
00:29:02.820 this guy that kind of looks
00:29:03.480 like a pauper
00:29:03.960 is our new emperor.
00:29:05.160 But whoever had
00:29:06.040 the most military power
00:29:07.400 then would be
00:29:08.640 the next emperor.
00:29:09.460 So you actually have
00:29:09.920 these guys with armies
00:29:11.080 claiming to be emperor
00:29:11.840 fighting each other
00:29:12.640 in the whole third century.
00:29:14.260 So you have in that time period
00:29:15.640 somewhere between
00:29:16.780 40 and 50 guys
00:29:18.140 claimed to be emperor.
00:29:19.680 Oh, wow.
00:29:19.860 And what ends up happening
00:29:21.100 then is that
00:29:22.140 you have two problems
00:29:23.420 that this is going to create,
00:29:24.520 right?
00:29:24.720 You've just lost
00:29:25.660 10% of the empire
00:29:26.660 40 years before.
00:29:28.900 So you have less troops.
00:29:31.000 Well, what do you do?
00:29:32.320 You import them.
00:29:33.640 So what ends up happening
00:29:34.700 is they start bringing
00:29:35.840 barbarians had always served
00:29:38.220 in the Roman army
00:29:38.900 but in a special portion
00:29:40.120 of it called the auxiliary,
00:29:41.560 not in the main legions.
00:29:43.420 What they actually start doing
00:29:44.480 is importing barbarians,
00:29:45.920 you know, the Germanic tribes
00:29:47.180 and things like that
00:29:47.880 into the Roman army
00:29:48.760 because they need
00:29:49.440 more people to fight.
00:29:50.900 So your army starts
00:29:52.120 to become less Roman.
00:29:53.700 It's whoever has
00:29:54.420 the most coin to pay them.
00:29:56.100 So then what ends up happening
00:29:57.140 is these generals
00:29:58.180 start adding other metals
00:30:01.000 to the coins,
00:30:02.600 copper, tin,
00:30:03.580 whatever it might be.
00:30:04.620 So it creates inflation.
00:30:06.600 So now you have people
00:30:07.360 coming across the border
00:30:08.380 to serve in the Roman army
00:30:10.220 and to bring their families
00:30:11.320 with them, right?
00:30:11.820 Because they're not just
00:30:12.120 coming by themselves.
00:30:12.760 And you are inflating
00:30:15.460 the money to now
00:30:16.220 pay these people.
00:30:17.600 So by 284 AD,
00:30:18.960 you have 15,000% inflation.
00:30:22.380 And what you're going
00:30:23.720 to have too is by 410 AD,
00:30:25.580 you're actually going
00:30:26.020 to have Ulrich,
00:30:26.720 who's a Visigoth
00:30:27.420 and had served
00:30:28.040 in the Roman army,
00:30:29.600 take his army of Visigoths
00:30:31.540 and attack Rome.
00:30:32.780 So they kind of create
00:30:34.300 their own problems
00:30:35.140 through that hundred years
00:30:36.260 of continually bringing
00:30:37.780 in more people,
00:30:38.920 putting those people
00:30:39.440 in the army
00:30:39.800 because the people
00:30:40.560 in power,
00:30:41.880 they only cared
00:30:42.400 about their own power.
00:30:43.100 They didn't care
00:30:43.580 about the effects
00:30:44.160 they were causing.
00:30:45.260 And at the same time,
00:30:46.400 emperors in the third century
00:30:47.480 were living such a short
00:30:48.700 period of time.
00:30:49.400 They were just trying
00:30:49.960 not to die.
00:30:51.600 We're seeing that
00:30:52.460 same thing now.
00:30:53.720 You're talking about
00:30:54.620 strong argument
00:30:55.580 for racism.
00:30:56.600 That's all I heard, right?
00:30:58.100 Well, what he's talking
00:30:59.220 about, this idea
00:30:59.940 of immigrants
00:31:00.520 coming over the border
00:31:01.960 to serve in the military
00:31:02.880 and they're bringing
00:31:03.300 their families.
00:31:04.200 We just had that
00:31:05.280 as a proposition recently.
00:31:06.660 I don't know
00:31:06.940 if there was any movement
00:31:07.760 as far as legislation goes,
00:31:09.280 but to have these
00:31:10.700 illegal immigrants
00:31:11.860 serve in the military.
00:31:13.280 And so,
00:31:14.320 there's just a lot of ways
00:31:16.340 I'm hearing
00:31:16.820 that you're describing
00:31:17.580 where I'm going,
00:31:18.160 man, we're certainly
00:31:18.860 repeating history.
00:31:20.140 And I know that
00:31:20.580 that's an old trope,
00:31:21.660 history repeats itself,
00:31:22.560 but I wonder
00:31:23.080 what you see
00:31:24.640 as somebody
00:31:25.340 who's got a much
00:31:27.000 more intimate relationship
00:31:28.000 with this history.
00:31:29.120 What do you see
00:31:29.920 in regards of
00:31:31.120 the repetition?
00:31:32.780 But actually,
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00:33:27.660 So, to just reiterate
00:33:28.980 the question,
00:33:29.700 it was like,
00:33:30.060 you're closer to this situation
00:33:31.400 than a lot of,
00:33:32.120 you know,
00:33:32.320 you're talking about people
00:33:32.940 that don't really understand
00:33:34.260 the Roman Empire
00:33:35.260 but are constantly memeing it
00:33:37.000 and talking about it.
00:33:37.900 I'm one of those people.
00:33:38.820 I don't constantly meme it
00:33:39.680 but I don't understand it.
00:33:40.700 I can't really claim to.
00:33:42.000 I wonder what somebody
00:33:42.880 who actually does understand it
00:33:44.600 sees in the way of,
00:33:46.320 the way it mirrors
00:33:48.240 what's happening today.
00:33:50.240 Well, I think history
00:33:50.980 like rhymes in a lot of ways.
00:33:52.320 I don't think it exactly repeats.
00:33:53.740 I don't think it's like
00:33:54.220 that map in the mall
00:33:55.040 that's like,
00:33:55.440 you are here.
00:33:56.080 What, I'm next to Sears?
00:33:56.940 How did I get here?
00:33:58.120 It's not like that
00:33:59.220 and if you read
00:33:59.960 my YouTube comments
00:34:00.760 apparently I just,
00:34:01.600 I know absolutely nothing
00:34:02.460 and I should just die.
00:34:04.120 But when I,
00:34:05.680 It's really affected by this guy
00:34:07.200 so stop.
00:34:08.680 Dude, people are just mean.
00:34:10.400 I'm like,
00:34:10.620 why do you sit that long?
00:34:11.560 Like, you wrote a paragraph.
00:34:13.280 You need a life.
00:34:13.880 But I think the thing
00:34:16.040 that's really interesting
00:34:16.860 is if you look at,
00:34:18.340 because Edward Gibbons
00:34:19.500 Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire,
00:34:21.020 I think it's seven volumes.
00:34:22.180 It's way too long.
00:34:22.900 Written in 1776.
00:34:24.300 It's like,
00:34:25.140 it's the thing everyone talks about
00:34:26.820 about how Rome declines and falls.
00:34:29.520 And he comes up with like
00:34:30.480 200 different reasons
00:34:31.380 about why they fall.
00:34:32.420 But if you really want to simplify it,
00:34:34.020 there's pretty much two.
00:34:35.100 And that's immigration
00:34:35.820 and inflation.
00:34:37.060 And if you look at
00:34:37.900 what's happening in America right now,
00:34:40.180 I think in the last three years
00:34:41.340 we've had like,
00:34:41.920 what, 8 million people?
00:34:43.380 We estimate come across the border.
00:34:45.260 Like, that's pretty extreme, man.
00:34:47.580 And we're inflating our money
00:34:49.580 like there's no tomorrow.
00:34:51.040 And if you look at
00:34:51.840 what happened in the Weimar Republic,
00:34:53.920 if we ever lose the,
00:34:56.020 you know,
00:34:56.680 our currency being
00:34:57.600 the standard everyone uses,
00:34:59.220 then we're in big trouble, man.
00:35:02.220 Like, you're not going to be able
00:35:03.000 to get to the supermarket
00:35:03.820 with enough money fast enough
00:35:05.320 to actually buy that loaf of bread
00:35:06.240 by the time it's not worth
00:35:07.060 as much as it was
00:35:07.620 by the time he got there.
00:35:08.780 And I think that's what
00:35:09.520 you have to really consider
00:35:10.880 is things feel all right now.
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00:35:45.100 Extreme and hyperinflation
00:35:46.460 happens the same way
00:35:47.400 bankruptcy does.
00:35:48.500 A little bit
00:35:49.200 and then all at once.
00:35:50.340 And I think that's what
00:35:51.000 you have to really consider
00:35:51.980 is you build yourself
00:35:53.640 over time
00:35:54.280 into the situation
00:35:55.060 and then one day
00:35:55.980 your chickens
00:35:56.460 go home to the roost, man.
00:35:57.380 I think our empire
00:36:00.000 is a little luckier
00:36:01.820 to have some kind
00:36:02.720 of technology
00:36:03.340 on their side
00:36:03.800 because they might
00:36:05.160 be able to really
00:36:06.180 pull this off
00:36:06.960 if they could like
00:36:07.580 dupe us into a
00:36:09.380 what's that called?
00:36:11.360 Like a crypto coin
00:36:12.680 but a Fed coin
00:36:13.440 kind of thing,
00:36:14.200 you know?
00:36:14.600 Yeah.
00:36:15.340 But the Roman empire
00:36:15.960 didn't have computers
00:36:16.760 to do that
00:36:17.160 so they were like
00:36:17.700 just staring down
00:36:19.120 the barrel of a gun,
00:36:19.960 I suppose.
00:36:21.240 Yes and no.
00:36:22.320 And that's why
00:36:22.660 I've been trying
00:36:22.940 to get Clint
00:36:23.540 to actually do
00:36:24.020 an episode
00:36:24.660 about Roman money
00:36:25.520 because I think
00:36:26.580 if you understand
00:36:28.220 what the eastern empire
00:36:29.280 does,
00:36:29.520 it's actually really
00:36:29.980 interesting.
00:36:30.360 I've been reading
00:36:30.620 a lot more
00:36:30.980 about this recently
00:36:31.660 and Constantine
00:36:33.820 is what you would
00:36:35.740 consider to be
00:36:36.080 the first Christian
00:36:36.780 emperor
00:36:37.060 and he's emperor
00:36:38.160 in the east
00:36:38.800 though he would
00:36:39.780 have rolled over
00:36:40.260 the full empire
00:36:41.160 and if you would
00:36:43.020 ask a Roman
00:36:43.640 that they're living
00:36:45.080 during that time period
00:36:45.720 what do they
00:36:46.080 appreciate most
00:36:47.100 about Constantine
00:36:47.720 it wouldn't be
00:36:48.220 anything to do
00:36:48.640 with religion.
00:36:49.860 It would be that
00:36:50.600 around the year
00:36:51.820 I think it's like
00:36:52.860 313 in Trier,
00:36:54.720 Germany
00:36:55.020 he takes
00:36:56.200 and he mints
00:36:57.120 less than 100
00:36:57.980 gold coins
00:36:58.760 24 karat
00:37:00.480 pure gold coins
00:37:01.300 and he mints them
00:37:02.020 so what does he do
00:37:03.080 he rules
00:37:04.120 I think till
00:37:04.720 somewhere around
00:37:05.140 like 330-ish
00:37:06.360 off the top of my head
00:37:07.440 he mints a few coins
00:37:09.200 every single year
00:37:09.820 until the year he dies
00:37:10.560 so what ends up
00:37:11.980 happening is
00:37:12.500 by the time
00:37:12.980 Constantine dies
00:37:14.040 the eastern empire
00:37:15.400 has went from
00:37:16.280 a fiat system
00:37:17.420 to a gold standard
00:37:19.000 and that gold standard
00:37:20.720 is going to last
00:37:21.480 from
00:37:21.900 when Constantine dies
00:37:23.640 in the mid-330s
00:37:25.700 till around the year
00:37:26.920 1000
00:37:27.500 without inflation
00:37:28.560 and I think
00:37:29.680 that's what you have
00:37:30.380 to consider
00:37:30.800 is he saw this problem
00:37:31.960 and he saw how to fix it
00:37:32.820 and that's why
00:37:33.760 he's different
00:37:34.300 than someone like
00:37:35.080 Diocletian
00:37:35.900 the famous reformer
00:37:36.700 of the 280s
00:37:37.400 because he's a military man
00:37:39.240 Diocletian
00:37:39.740 he's going to try
00:37:40.280 and do everything
00:37:40.700 with brunt force
00:37:41.380 so what does he try
00:37:42.060 and do
00:37:42.400 he tries to do
00:37:44.100 some price controls
00:37:45.100 oh I think
00:37:46.540 we just heard a
00:37:47.300 person running
00:37:48.480 for president
00:37:48.940 talk about price controls
00:37:49.880 recently
00:37:50.300 it doesn't do
00:37:51.480 very well
00:37:52.020 and it actually
00:37:52.420 drives inflation
00:37:53.080 farther
00:37:53.480 and it also
00:37:54.360 creates a very
00:37:55.180 vibrant black market
00:37:56.440 because now people
00:37:57.160 want to trade for goods
00:37:57.960 and not government
00:37:59.180 currency
00:37:59.660 so he's
00:38:01.460 I think Constantine
00:38:02.720 is intelligent enough
00:38:03.680 to realize
00:38:04.300 it's the value
00:38:05.320 of money
00:38:05.820 that's creating
00:38:06.460 this situation
00:38:07.260 and
00:38:08.360 you know
00:38:09.700 I don't really know
00:38:10.500 as much about
00:38:11.020 the east border policy
00:38:12.120 as I've been trying
00:38:12.680 to read more about
00:38:13.420 the Byzantine empire
00:38:14.400 recently
00:38:14.900 I'm really focused
00:38:15.980 more on
00:38:16.560 what you'd call
00:38:17.840 the standard Roman era
00:38:18.720 though the east
00:38:19.160 would have called
00:38:19.540 themselves Romans
00:38:20.160 but the big thing
00:38:21.180 he does
00:38:21.540 is standardizing
00:38:22.120 the currency
00:38:22.540 and they last
00:38:23.300 until 1453
00:38:24.060 we talked
00:38:26.060 a moment ago
00:38:27.280 about how
00:38:28.120 it almost feels
00:38:30.300 like history
00:38:30.960 is repeating
00:38:31.620 itself
00:38:32.000 or rhymes
00:38:32.680 do you think
00:38:34.120 that there
00:38:34.580 this is a notion
00:38:35.400 that I often feel
00:38:36.180 compelled to
00:38:36.880 to entertain
00:38:37.740 is that
00:38:39.320 they're looking
00:38:39.980 at
00:38:40.580 these
00:38:41.840 empires
00:38:43.420 throughout history
00:38:44.020 and they're almost
00:38:44.480 treating them
00:38:45.100 like a playbook
00:38:45.780 you know
00:38:46.520 there are
00:38:46.940 certain elements
00:38:47.760 that you can
00:38:48.240 implement
00:38:48.620 that you know
00:38:49.400 will be
00:38:49.760 effective
00:38:50.180 when it comes
00:38:50.700 to destroying
00:38:51.100 an empire
00:38:51.580 and a lot
00:38:52.460 of people
00:38:53.000 suspect that
00:38:54.460 there is
00:38:55.020 a controlled
00:38:55.820 demolition
00:38:57.460 for lack
00:38:58.100 of a better
00:38:58.400 term
00:38:58.620 happening
00:38:59.000 in western
00:39:00.100 culture
00:39:00.600 in America
00:39:01.360 and if you
00:39:02.120 take the idea
00:39:02.820 of Yuri
00:39:03.360 Besmanov
00:39:04.040 right
00:39:04.340 this generational
00:39:05.180 warfare
00:39:05.620 where espionage
00:39:07.060 doesn't happen
00:39:07.780 with spies
00:39:09.020 in a cool
00:39:09.560 sort of
00:39:09.920 James Bond
00:39:10.500 fashion
00:39:10.980 but more
00:39:11.800 it's a
00:39:12.260 generational
00:39:12.820 takedown
00:39:13.600 that starts
00:39:14.640 with the
00:39:14.960 eroding
00:39:15.340 of the
00:39:15.940 people's
00:39:16.460 faith
00:39:16.760 in their
00:39:17.200 various
00:39:17.560 institutions
00:39:18.160 their
00:39:18.380 religious
00:39:18.680 institutions
00:39:19.420 medical
00:39:20.600 military
00:39:21.460 their
00:39:22.860 scholarly
00:39:23.540 institutions
00:39:24.320 and you
00:39:24.980 could very
00:39:25.440 much make
00:39:25.800 an argument
00:39:26.140 that we've
00:39:26.580 gotten there
00:39:27.260 in the past
00:39:28.400 10 years
00:39:28.980 that maybe
00:39:29.340 this is the
00:39:29.800 fruits of
00:39:30.340 someone's
00:39:31.220 labor
00:39:31.460 to try
00:39:32.620 to diminish
00:39:33.800 the west
00:39:34.960 and it
00:39:36.160 just kind of
00:39:36.620 looks
00:39:36.820 to me
00:39:37.340 it looks
00:39:37.620 like they're
00:39:37.900 just pulling
00:39:38.240 from a
00:39:38.500 playbook
00:39:38.880 well I
00:39:39.900 don't know
00:39:40.300 if you guys
00:39:40.620 know Charlie
00:39:41.060 Robinson
00:39:41.420 but that's a
00:39:41.880 that's a
00:39:42.200 big part
00:39:42.560 of what
00:39:42.820 what Charlie
00:39:43.260 talks about
00:39:43.760 is the
00:39:44.080 controlled
00:39:44.580 demolition
00:39:45.080 of the
00:39:45.460 American
00:39:45.880 empire
00:39:46.220 and I
00:39:47.440 think it
00:39:48.000 is very
00:39:48.500 similar
00:39:48.840 because even
00:39:49.700 you guys
00:39:50.360 familiar with
00:39:50.720 Cloward and
00:39:51.100 Piven
00:39:51.280 like the
00:39:51.780 strategy
00:39:52.100 of basically
00:39:52.500 overwhelming
00:39:53.080 the welfare
00:39:53.560 state
00:39:53.960 and that
00:39:54.480 will actually
00:39:54.800 bring down
00:39:55.220 a system
00:39:55.600 one of the
00:39:56.660 things that
00:39:57.100 people don't
00:39:57.780 talk about
00:39:58.360 that often
00:39:58.980 is
00:39:59.480 Rome
00:40:01.000 had a lot
00:40:02.380 of social
00:40:02.780 welfare
00:40:03.080 programs
00:40:03.480 that were
00:40:03.720 actually super
00:40:04.200 expensive
00:40:04.600 the main
00:40:06.160 one
00:40:06.640 is the
00:40:07.280 grain
00:40:07.540 dole
00:40:07.840 and
00:40:08.700 every
00:40:09.740 person
00:40:10.380 in Rome
00:40:10.760 below a
00:40:11.180 certain
00:40:11.360 income
00:40:11.700 level
00:40:12.040 would be
00:40:12.540 given
00:40:12.900 grain
00:40:14.780 on a
00:40:15.880 you know
00:40:16.240 a basis
00:40:16.720 to be able
00:40:17.120 to actually
00:40:17.460 feed their
00:40:17.880 families
00:40:18.240 and what's
00:40:19.840 going to end
00:40:20.100 up happening
00:40:20.540 and that's
00:40:20.800 why when
00:40:21.340 the price
00:40:21.860 of grain
00:40:22.440 is doubling
00:40:22.860 and tripling
00:40:23.240 that's a
00:40:23.560 big problem
00:40:24.080 because the
00:40:24.840 biggest purchaser
00:40:25.620 of grain
00:40:26.220 is the
00:40:27.580 Roman
00:40:27.780 government
00:40:28.240 right
00:40:28.920 so what
00:40:29.280 ends up
00:40:29.600 happening
00:40:29.960 is as the
00:40:30.420 cost of
00:40:31.120 grain
00:40:31.400 is going
00:40:31.700 to go
00:40:31.940 up
00:40:32.140 well that's
00:40:32.940 now going
00:40:33.300 to drive
00:40:33.660 inflation
00:40:34.180 even harder
00:40:34.800 right
00:40:35.360 because now
00:40:35.920 they have
00:40:36.600 to pay
00:40:36.980 double
00:40:37.600 triple
00:40:38.040 whatever it
00:40:38.500 might be
00:40:38.800 in order
00:40:39.580 to feed
00:40:39.880 people
00:40:40.240 and that's
00:40:41.820 something that gets
00:40:42.400 instituted
00:40:42.980 before the empire
00:40:44.520 is even an empire
00:40:45.160 it comes around
00:40:45.900 the year
00:40:46.300 133
00:40:47.580 under these two
00:40:49.100 brothers called
00:40:49.700 the Gracchi brothers
00:40:50.760 and they're
00:40:52.240 actually
00:40:52.520 the senate is so
00:40:54.180 angry with them
00:40:54.740 they pull legs
00:40:55.420 off of a stool
00:40:56.080 and kill the
00:40:56.760 first one
00:40:57.260 Tiberius Gracchus
00:40:58.700 and then
00:40:59.540 the second one
00:41:00.700 Gaius Gracchus
00:41:01.340 is actually going
00:41:01.860 to be run out
00:41:02.440 and have his body
00:41:03.080 thrown in the Tiber
00:41:03.800 about ten years
00:41:04.380 after that
00:41:04.900 but they
00:41:05.760 start this
00:41:06.660 social welfare
00:41:07.580 system in Rome
00:41:08.440 and it becomes
00:41:09.660 a really big
00:41:10.580 pull on
00:41:11.720 the treasury
00:41:12.360 but also
00:41:12.840 entertainment
00:41:13.340 as well
00:41:13.780 because if you
00:41:14.220 look at now
00:41:14.760 you have the NFL
00:41:16.100 and things like that
00:41:16.900 those are private
00:41:17.460 businesses
00:41:17.940 in Rome
00:41:19.020 a lot of those
00:41:20.280 entertainment sources
00:41:22.020 would be paid
00:41:22.640 for by the state
00:41:23.620 so you have
00:41:24.600 under Vespasian
00:41:26.780 and around the year
00:41:27.920 78 or 79
00:41:29.660 is when the actual
00:41:30.320 Colosseum is built
00:41:31.160 it would have been
00:41:32.300 called the Flavian
00:41:32.880 Amphitheater
00:41:33.400 during his time
00:41:34.060 but that takes
00:41:36.180 gladiator races
00:41:37.900 and chariot races
00:41:38.660 have always been
00:41:39.180 a big part
00:41:39.920 of Roman culture
00:41:41.060 but they get
00:41:42.180 exponentially larger
00:41:43.460 at that point
00:41:44.240 because now you
00:41:44.980 have this giant
00:41:45.700 place to fill
00:41:46.500 and the Circus Maximus
00:41:47.860 is growing
00:41:48.400 where they have
00:41:49.460 chariot races
00:41:50.140 so just the pure
00:41:51.740 scale of this stuff
00:41:52.860 gets larger
00:41:53.460 so now you have
00:41:54.880 emperors wasting money
00:41:57.420 because they're
00:41:57.940 just spendthrifts
00:41:58.500 anyway
00:41:58.840 they're wasting money
00:42:00.200 on entertainment
00:42:00.960 they're wasting money
00:42:02.040 on grain
00:42:02.400 that's where the idea
00:42:02.820 of bread and circus
00:42:03.340 comes from
00:42:03.740 they're wasting money
00:42:04.280 on grain
00:42:04.880 and entertainment
00:42:05.540 they're wasting money
00:42:07.020 on the military
00:42:07.740 well you haven't even
00:42:09.280 paid for a lot
00:42:09.900 of your regular stuff
00:42:11.420 yet
00:42:11.700 and you've burnt
00:42:12.760 through all your
00:42:13.280 currency
00:42:13.680 so that's the problem
00:42:14.780 you have to think
00:42:15.220 about
00:42:15.420 and if you look
00:42:15.840 at America
00:42:16.320 you know
00:42:17.280 you have
00:42:18.000 a lot of our
00:42:19.200 welfare programs
00:42:20.180 are absolutely
00:42:21.300 destroying
00:42:22.300 you know
00:42:24.060 our currency
00:42:25.000 right
00:42:25.440 because we
00:42:26.240 what is it
00:42:27.560 by 2035
00:42:28.480 that Social Security
00:42:29.700 is supposed to
00:42:30.140 not have any money
00:42:30.880 left
00:42:31.180 because it's a
00:42:31.780 Ponzi scheme
00:42:32.220 anyway
00:42:32.460 and apparently
00:42:32.880 like if you're
00:42:33.280 in government
00:42:33.640 it's cool
00:42:34.040 if you're a private
00:42:34.480 person
00:42:34.780 they're gonna get you
00:42:35.380 but like that's
00:42:37.000 that's the problem
00:42:37.920 and nobody talks
00:42:38.720 about the welfare
00:42:39.760 part of what's
00:42:40.440 draining the Roman
00:42:40.920 state
00:42:41.240 now
00:42:42.520 in your opinion
00:42:44.180 because
00:42:44.820 for this to happen
00:42:46.700 in America
00:42:47.280 for me
00:42:48.180 it feels like
00:42:48.660 it's contrived
00:42:49.440 in the Roman Empire
00:42:51.140 are these just
00:42:52.120 circumstances
00:42:52.740 or like
00:42:53.320 they were dealt
00:42:53.980 a bad hand
00:42:54.560 with a certain king
00:42:55.260 and that's what
00:42:55.660 happened
00:42:55.940 or are there
00:42:56.520 external influences
00:42:57.860 that are actively
00:42:59.300 doing this
00:43:00.540 to Rome
00:43:01.580 because I feel like
00:43:02.620 that's the case
00:43:03.180 for us
00:43:03.640 it's a combination
00:43:04.720 of things
00:43:05.360 and I think
00:43:05.660 that's why
00:43:05.940 it's hard
00:43:06.340 to say
00:43:06.620 it's one thing
00:43:07.300 because you have
00:43:07.820 to understand
00:43:08.460 in 117 AD
00:43:11.580 the Romans
00:43:12.820 stop
00:43:13.400 major conquests
00:43:14.860 meaning they're
00:43:15.260 not going around
00:43:15.900 really conquering
00:43:16.440 territory anymore
00:43:17.020 and they try
00:43:17.280 to just preserve
00:43:17.860 what they have
00:43:18.480 and that's how
00:43:19.980 they were allowed
00:43:20.460 to have a lot
00:43:21.580 of this opulence
00:43:22.240 and stuff like that
00:43:22.860 because they were
00:43:23.280 continually conquering
00:43:24.080 new territories
00:43:24.720 and early on
00:43:27.140 when Romans
00:43:28.120 conquered you
00:43:28.840 they weren't
00:43:29.320 gonna be like
00:43:29.760 alright
00:43:29.960 you're part of
00:43:31.120 our territory
00:43:31.520 now pay us taxes
00:43:32.380 they would conquer
00:43:33.540 you and say
00:43:33.960 great
00:43:34.340 provide us troops
00:43:35.580 because this is
00:43:36.560 gonna be how
00:43:37.080 we would conquer
00:43:37.720 new territory
00:43:38.380 so when they
00:43:39.580 stop doing that
00:43:40.540 in 117
00:43:41.280 you have
00:43:42.360 less of a supply
00:43:43.600 of military
00:43:44.180 but you also have
00:43:45.760 no more wealth
00:43:47.000 coming into the country
00:43:47.880 you know
00:43:49.200 you look at
00:43:49.740 the Flavian Amphitheater
00:43:50.780 that money
00:43:52.100 came from Vespasian
00:43:53.260 when he was
00:43:53.740 one of Nero's
00:43:54.820 generals
00:43:55.260 conquering Israel
00:43:56.320 and that's where
00:43:57.000 a lot of that money
00:43:57.540 comes from
00:43:58.060 so you have to
00:43:59.380 look at
00:44:00.120 once they stop
00:44:01.940 doing that
00:44:02.440 they're not bringing
00:44:03.140 new wealth
00:44:03.860 into the country
00:44:04.520 because that's how
00:44:05.300 Rome continued to grow
00:44:06.320 this idea
00:44:08.500 of this
00:44:09.100 sort of
00:44:10.100 grain-based
00:44:10.880 welfare system
00:44:11.680 every family
00:44:12.200 gets enough grain
00:44:12.980 should be a
00:44:14.080 cautionary tale
00:44:15.040 to those who
00:44:15.820 think that
00:44:16.580 universal basic
00:44:17.420 income would be
00:44:18.060 a good idea
00:44:18.600 right
00:44:18.800 I mean it's
00:44:19.060 the same
00:44:19.620 thing
00:44:20.300 it's just
00:44:20.640 spread to a
00:44:21.180 currency
00:44:21.520 instead of
00:44:22.700 a commodity
00:44:23.280 like grain
00:44:23.980 but right
00:44:25.040 that's a really
00:44:25.640 good point
00:44:26.140 too because
00:44:26.600 I know
00:44:26.940 Julius Caesar
00:44:27.780 when he becomes
00:44:28.640 dictator
00:44:29.840 in 44
00:44:31.300 or 46
00:44:32.240 sorry
00:44:32.520 he dies
00:44:32.880 in 44
00:44:33.300 he goes
00:44:35.180 through this
00:44:35.500 list of
00:44:35.940 reforms
00:44:36.360 and the
00:44:37.640 first of
00:44:38.220 those reforms
00:44:38.900 is he
00:44:39.760 actually
00:44:41.000 pardons all
00:44:41.580 the people
00:44:41.760 that tried
00:44:42.400 to kill
00:44:42.700 him
00:44:42.800 and later
00:44:43.060 will kill
00:44:43.460 him
00:44:43.620 then he
00:44:45.340 reforms
00:44:45.880 the calendar
00:44:46.380 but another
00:44:46.860 thing he
00:44:47.220 does
00:44:47.700 is he
00:44:48.540 actually
00:44:48.840 puts in
00:44:49.280 a better
00:44:49.660 system
00:44:50.160 for the
00:44:50.440 grain
00:44:50.640 dole
00:44:50.840 because
00:44:51.080 what was
00:44:51.420 happening
00:44:51.740 before it
00:44:52.440 is people
00:44:53.800 were
00:44:54.340 you know
00:44:55.720 messing with
00:44:56.820 different things
00:44:57.320 to get more
00:44:57.760 grain
00:44:58.080 or one
00:44:58.540 family would
00:44:58.980 know somebody
00:44:59.420 and they
00:44:59.620 get more
00:44:59.920 grain
00:45:00.260 so you
00:45:01.720 have early
00:45:02.440 on people
00:45:02.860 kind of
00:45:03.120 work in
00:45:03.380 the system
00:45:03.820 which is
00:45:06.080 pretty much
00:45:06.640 the case
00:45:06.960 with any
00:45:07.280 welfare system
00:45:08.000 we see that
00:45:08.780 constantly
00:45:09.340 in America
00:45:10.080 is it's
00:45:11.380 almost as if
00:45:12.000 the system
00:45:12.480 is designed
00:45:13.340 in such a
00:45:13.940 way as to
00:45:14.420 be easily
00:45:14.960 taken advantage
00:45:15.700 of
00:45:16.040 so it
00:45:17.140 seems like
00:45:17.580 so far
00:45:18.000 we've got
00:45:18.420 diversity
00:45:19.100 welfare
00:45:20.300 and war
00:45:21.960 but do
00:45:23.860 you think
00:45:24.340 that the
00:45:24.620 war that
00:45:25.500 the Roman
00:45:25.860 Empire
00:45:26.160 was actually
00:45:26.700 like the
00:45:27.660 war that
00:45:28.240 they were
00:45:28.680 causing
00:45:29.220 was part
00:45:30.720 of their
00:45:30.960 own defeat
00:45:31.400 or do you
00:45:31.620 think they
00:45:31.880 should have
00:45:32.180 continued
00:45:32.600 warring
00:45:33.360 is that
00:45:33.640 what you're
00:45:33.880 saying
00:45:34.100 well and
00:45:37.880 first of all
00:45:38.260 you guys have
00:45:38.760 like the best
00:45:39.380 commenters
00:45:39.960 this guy
00:45:40.300 they're insane
00:45:40.960 this guy
00:45:41.480 star crimes
00:45:42.120 is hilarious
00:45:42.760 star crimes
00:45:43.600 is the man
00:45:44.440 if you've been
00:45:45.040 reading everything
00:45:45.680 this person's
00:45:46.240 been writing
00:45:46.540 it's hilarious
00:45:47.120 I love
00:45:47.620 star crimes
00:45:48.180 I know
00:45:48.500 them
00:45:48.680 but the
00:45:50.960 thing I
00:45:51.460 would say
00:45:51.940 is if
00:45:53.080 you look
00:45:53.360 at it
00:45:53.640 you know
00:45:53.880 I don't
00:45:54.240 like war
00:45:54.680 I don't
00:45:55.440 think it's
00:45:55.680 a good
00:45:55.860 thing
00:45:56.140 but if
00:45:56.580 you look
00:45:56.820 at Rome
00:45:57.240 Rome
00:45:57.580 is it's
00:45:58.380 it's a
00:45:58.780 war society
00:45:59.680 and it's
00:46:01.580 the Punic
00:46:02.140 Wars
00:46:02.560 and when
00:46:03.220 it becomes
00:46:03.620 an empire
00:46:04.000 that actually
00:46:04.400 militarized
00:46:05.300 Rome so
00:46:05.880 much that
00:46:06.360 now it
00:46:06.760 just is
00:46:07.340 eventually
00:46:07.560 going to
00:46:07.840 become an
00:46:08.260 empire
00:46:08.540 so I
00:46:09.500 think that
00:46:10.180 the problem
00:46:10.880 is without
00:46:11.820 war and
00:46:12.280 without
00:46:12.440 conquest
00:46:12.860 Rome
00:46:13.200 doesn't
00:46:13.560 exist
00:46:14.020 it's
00:46:16.240 different
00:46:16.580 and that's
00:46:16.940 why if you
00:46:17.420 look at
00:46:17.740 the Greeks
00:46:18.220 you know
00:46:19.580 Greece was
00:46:20.080 never really
00:46:20.800 united territory
00:46:21.560 it was a
00:46:22.300 bunch of
00:46:22.940 cities and
00:46:24.300 polices
00:46:24.620 right it
00:46:25.060 was a
00:46:25.300 bunch of
00:46:25.660 little areas
00:46:26.420 and if
00:46:27.200 you know
00:46:27.500 if the
00:46:28.640 Persians were
00:46:29.120 going to
00:46:29.280 come in
00:46:29.560 they might
00:46:29.860 unite and
00:46:30.480 then hopefully
00:46:31.080 you know
00:46:32.040 beat them
00:46:33.100 but then you
00:46:33.400 might have
00:46:33.620 one of the
00:46:33.900 cities betray
00:46:34.460 them
00:46:34.820 whereas Rome
00:46:35.800 did things
00:46:36.360 as kind of
00:46:36.780 this giant
00:46:37.480 gargantuan
00:46:38.420 you know
00:46:39.320 Leviathan
00:46:40.440 where they
00:46:41.160 were always
00:46:41.540 in the same
00:46:42.240 step
00:46:42.640 and I think
00:46:43.640 that's
00:46:44.000 that is
00:46:44.600 the difference
00:46:45.440 in kind of
00:46:45.860 like how even
00:46:46.440 the two
00:46:46.880 countries expand
00:46:47.880 I think
00:46:49.380 that we
00:46:49.720 would be
00:46:50.160 if we
00:46:50.620 don't touch
00:46:51.280 on the
00:46:51.860 somebody said
00:46:52.400 it
00:46:52.520 the sodomy
00:46:53.280 aspect
00:46:53.720 that is
00:46:54.700 one of
00:46:54.960 the ways
00:46:55.400 many people
00:46:56.400 how do we
00:46:57.120 jump to
00:46:57.500 that
00:46:57.860 that's
00:46:58.140 we're
00:46:58.320 jumping
00:46:58.480 straight
00:46:58.840 into
00:46:59.080 sodomy
00:46:59.620 so the
00:47:01.240 big knock
00:47:01.740 on Julius
00:47:02.180 Caesar by the
00:47:02.720 way is that
00:47:03.300 he was a
00:47:03.760 bottom
00:47:04.080 there you
00:47:05.280 go
00:47:05.640 if you're
00:47:06.780 going to
00:47:07.060 engage in
00:47:07.760 sodomy
00:47:08.200 you better
00:47:08.600 be the
00:47:08.980 top
00:47:09.300 so there
00:47:11.780 is this
00:47:12.280 by people
00:47:13.460 like myself
00:47:14.360 who don't
00:47:15.440 have an
00:47:15.980 intimate
00:47:16.220 knowledge of
00:47:17.000 the Roman
00:47:17.300 Empire
00:47:17.780 we're quick
00:47:18.760 to say
00:47:19.200 things like
00:47:19.860 well
00:47:20.180 the
00:47:21.740 proliferation
00:47:23.680 of
00:47:23.980 LGBTQ
00:47:24.620 ideology
00:47:26.080 in the
00:47:27.000 West
00:47:27.340 very much
00:47:28.240 mirrors
00:47:28.840 you know
00:47:29.640 what was
00:47:30.100 happening
00:47:30.460 in the
00:47:30.960 fall
00:47:31.260 of the
00:47:31.680 Roman
00:47:31.880 Empire
00:47:32.380 where
00:47:32.940 everybody
00:47:33.300 was
00:47:33.620 engaged
00:47:34.160 in
00:47:34.440 butt
00:47:34.760 sex
00:47:35.060 and that's
00:47:35.540 where
00:47:35.760 my line
00:47:36.660 of intellect
00:47:37.100 stops
00:47:37.700 I just
00:47:39.360 go
00:47:39.540 that's
00:47:39.860 what was
00:47:40.140 happening
00:47:40.560 definitely
00:47:41.260 you can
00:47:41.800 read about
00:47:42.240 it
00:47:42.360 I'm sure
00:47:42.920 is there
00:47:43.500 any validity
00:47:44.140 to that
00:47:44.600 was there
00:47:44.980 yes and
00:47:45.420 no
00:47:45.700 yes and
00:47:46.500 no
00:47:46.760 yes and
00:47:47.280 no
00:47:47.460 and
00:47:47.720 you know
00:47:49.820 because you
00:47:50.160 can even
00:47:50.440 go through
00:47:50.740 history
00:47:51.080 and you
00:47:51.980 know
00:47:52.080 Emperor
00:47:52.420 Hadrian
00:47:52.880 was likely
00:47:53.620 doing that
00:47:54.000 and he
00:47:54.160 actually
00:47:54.340 had a
00:47:54.640 boyfriend
00:47:55.140 that he
00:47:55.740 got pretty
00:47:56.800 upset
00:47:57.080 when he
00:47:57.620 died
00:47:57.900 and they
00:47:58.080 built a
00:47:58.320 temple
00:47:58.520 to him
00:47:58.820 hey
00:47:59.060 it was
00:47:59.360 just
00:47:59.580 a boy
00:48:00.140 that was
00:48:00.680 his
00:48:00.880 friend
00:48:01.320 oh
00:48:01.840 okay
00:48:02.440 well
00:48:03.680 and it
00:48:04.020 was an
00:48:04.300 insult
00:48:04.620 in like
00:48:05.480 the early
00:48:06.020 Roman Empire
00:48:06.600 to like
00:48:06.920 call someone
00:48:07.400 Greek
00:48:07.720 so they'd be
00:48:07.980 like oh
00:48:08.220 Hadrian
00:48:08.580 he's so
00:48:08.980 Greek
00:48:09.460 which everybody
00:48:10.540 knew what
00:48:10.900 that meant
00:48:11.280 in that time
00:48:11.700 period
00:48:11.940 it becomes
00:48:12.300 a lot more
00:48:12.680 acceptable
00:48:13.080 later on
00:48:13.860 but if you
00:48:14.960 even look at
00:48:15.280 the third
00:48:15.620 century of
00:48:16.420 how you
00:48:17.140 get to
00:48:17.500 where you
00:48:17.740 get to
00:48:18.160 it's funny
00:48:20.220 because people
00:48:20.560 talk about
00:48:20.880 the debauchery
00:48:21.380 of Rome
00:48:21.740 and things
00:48:22.100 like when
00:48:22.540 it falls
00:48:23.040 and that's
00:48:23.480 actually not
00:48:24.220 true
00:48:24.640 because by
00:48:25.160 the time
00:48:25.440 it falls
00:48:25.840 it's a
00:48:26.140 Christian
00:48:26.420 empire
00:48:26.780 they did
00:48:27.560 the damage
00:48:28.060 during the
00:48:28.400 debauchery
00:48:29.000 period
00:48:29.360 but they
00:48:30.680 kind of
00:48:31.060 like I
00:48:31.520 don't know
00:48:31.760 got prim
00:48:32.400 improper
00:48:32.800 and did
00:48:33.660 things a little
00:48:34.000 bit differently
00:48:34.420 maybe they
00:48:35.180 realized too
00:48:35.860 late
00:48:36.140 yeah
00:48:37.020 well I
00:48:37.740 guess
00:48:38.220 but if you
00:48:38.540 look at
00:48:38.780 that the
00:48:39.120 third century
00:48:39.560 crisis I
00:48:40.060 was talking
00:48:40.380 about
00:48:40.560 like you
00:48:41.300 kind of
00:48:41.580 start to
00:48:42.000 see the
00:48:42.260 process
00:48:42.680 happen
00:48:43.160 with
00:48:43.400 Commodus
00:48:43.760 but it
00:48:44.580 doesn't
00:48:44.800 fully
00:48:45.300 happen
00:48:45.760 until
00:48:46.340 the mid
00:48:47.460 220s
00:48:48.220 and you
00:48:49.160 get this
00:48:49.580 emperor
00:48:50.240 named
00:48:50.860 Elagabalus
00:48:51.840 which by
00:48:53.860 the way
00:48:54.240 you guys
00:48:54.600 will love
00:48:54.920 this
00:48:55.280 he was
00:48:55.940 the priest
00:48:56.480 of a
00:48:56.880 cult
00:48:57.180 that worshipped
00:48:57.940 a get
00:48:58.800 this black
00:48:59.720 rock
00:49:00.360 oh
00:49:01.640 interesting
00:49:02.660 many such
00:49:03.280 cases
00:49:03.700 go on
00:49:04.000 yes
00:49:04.280 so he
00:49:04.680 was a
00:49:04.960 teenage
00:49:05.280 priest
00:49:05.700 of a
00:49:06.020 cult
00:49:06.700 called
00:49:07.060 Elagabalus
00:49:07.740 there's two
00:49:08.100 different names
00:49:08.460 for him
00:49:08.640 Elagabalus
00:49:09.140 or Heliogabalus
00:49:09.900 but they
00:49:10.180 basically
00:49:10.680 worshipped
00:49:11.160 this type
00:49:11.540 of a
00:49:11.760 sun god
00:49:12.180 and this
00:49:13.700 dude
00:49:13.980 was nuts
00:49:14.700 he's the
00:49:15.200 only other
00:49:15.640 one other
00:49:15.960 than
00:49:16.100 Commodus
00:49:16.480 that was
00:49:17.400 pulled
00:49:17.640 through the
00:49:17.920 streets
00:49:18.120 of Rome
00:49:18.440 and thrown
00:49:18.700 into the
00:49:19.020 Tiber
00:49:19.300 so what
00:49:20.660 he does
00:49:21.380 is he
00:49:22.160 sends a
00:49:23.200 painting of
00:49:24.980 himself to
00:49:25.560 Rome ahead
00:49:26.000 of himself
00:49:26.460 when he gets
00:49:26.960 there of
00:49:27.220 himself like
00:49:27.720 dancing
00:49:28.140 to his
00:49:29.460 black rock
00:49:30.040 then when he
00:49:31.640 holds a
00:49:31.860 wedding for
00:49:32.340 his black
00:49:32.840 rock
00:49:33.120 where it
00:49:33.340 gets married
00:49:33.800 to another
00:49:34.300 black rock
00:49:34.920 and everyone
00:49:35.300 has to
00:49:35.700 come
00:49:36.040 he would
00:49:37.320 hold these
00:49:38.040 parties
00:49:39.620 where the
00:49:41.140 instance you
00:49:42.500 were talking
00:49:42.880 about before
00:49:43.400 with butts
00:49:44.100 happens
00:49:44.480 and he would
00:49:45.820 force the
00:49:46.680 senate to
00:49:47.740 actually take
00:49:48.080 part in
00:49:48.400 this
00:49:48.660 he takes
00:49:50.560 his hairdresser
00:49:51.940 and I just
00:49:52.920 imagine the
00:49:53.440 hairdresser
00:49:53.700 having like
00:49:54.180 this like
00:49:54.640 you know
00:49:55.300 like being
00:49:55.940 like oh
00:49:56.880 my gosh
00:49:57.380 hair
00:49:57.880 puts him
00:49:58.720 in charge
00:49:59.000 of the
00:49:59.180 grain supply
00:49:59.720 so he
00:50:00.840 actually makes
00:50:01.380 him run
00:50:01.920 all the
00:50:02.280 food of
00:50:02.620 what
00:50:02.740 everyone's
00:50:03.060 eating
00:50:03.300 well wait
00:50:04.020 a second
00:50:04.440 this is
00:50:05.080 this is
00:50:05.560 interesting
00:50:06.380 because as
00:50:06.960 you're
00:50:07.160 describing these
00:50:08.240 things there's
00:50:08.820 so many
00:50:09.280 once again
00:50:09.780 I just
00:50:10.040 know it
00:50:10.360 gets better
00:50:10.780 it gets better
00:50:11.600 it gets better
00:50:12.200 it gets better
00:50:12.640 so his
00:50:13.600 process of
00:50:15.320 actually like
00:50:15.940 advancing people
00:50:16.660 in jobs
00:50:17.200 was he would
00:50:18.040 make them
00:50:18.380 pull down
00:50:18.780 their pants
00:50:19.240 and see how
00:50:19.680 long their
00:50:20.000 member was
00:50:20.600 and whoever
00:50:22.000 had the longest
00:50:22.680 member would
00:50:23.480 get the best
00:50:23.960 job
00:50:24.360 and he tries
00:50:26.320 to marry a
00:50:26.880 vestal virgin
00:50:27.460 but Rome
00:50:27.960 really just
00:50:28.800 won't let
00:50:29.060 that happen
00:50:29.480 so that
00:50:29.820 doesn't happen
00:50:30.360 he ends up
00:50:31.600 getting pulled
00:50:32.740 around Rome
00:50:33.340 in a chariot
00:50:33.880 of prostitutes
00:50:34.880 and supposedly
00:50:36.720 he wanted to
00:50:38.160 be trans
00:50:38.680 but we don't
00:50:39.080 know that
00:50:39.500 incredible
00:50:41.600 wait he made
00:50:42.560 the prostitutes
00:50:43.380 pull his
00:50:43.900 chariot
00:50:44.400 yes
00:50:44.900 so then
00:50:47.440 basically
00:50:47.880 they get
00:50:48.480 so
00:50:48.880 there's so
00:50:50.860 much upset
00:50:51.460 with this
00:50:51.860 guy
00:50:52.240 that the
00:50:53.040 senate's like
00:50:53.420 all right
00:50:53.680 this is it
00:50:54.580 and the
00:50:54.880 praetorian guard
00:50:55.500 kills him
00:50:56.120 and he's
00:50:56.660 drug through
00:50:57.120 the streets
00:50:57.700 his
00:50:59.400 cousin
00:51:01.120 slash
00:51:01.560 brother
00:51:02.020 because this
00:51:02.460 whole family
00:51:02.800 tree is a little
00:51:03.220 bit funky
00:51:03.620 his cousin
00:51:04.620 slash brother
00:51:05.440 Cerberus
00:51:05.960 Alexander
00:51:06.380 is going to
00:51:06.700 be the next
00:51:07.220 emperor
00:51:08.040 and he
00:51:09.660 once again
00:51:10.420 is a teenage
00:51:10.840 emperor
00:51:11.100 but that's
00:51:11.440 kind of the
00:51:11.760 last
00:51:12.180 steady
00:51:13.020 emperor
00:51:13.360 you get
00:51:13.620 before
00:51:13.820 this
00:51:14.020 third
00:51:14.220 century
00:51:14.480 crisis
00:51:14.800 happens
00:51:15.140 so
00:51:15.460 I guess
00:51:16.160 DEI
00:51:16.720 opened us
00:51:17.200 up to
00:51:17.420 the
00:51:17.540 crisis
00:51:17.800 of
00:51:17.940 the
00:51:18.020 third
00:51:18.160 century
00:51:18.540 people
00:51:20.280 is this
00:51:20.800 just
00:51:21.080 indicative
00:51:21.640 of human
00:51:22.160 nature
00:51:22.520 that we
00:51:22.900 seem to
00:51:23.220 go through
00:51:23.600 these loops
00:51:24.140 it's like
00:51:24.460 not only
00:51:24.860 does history
00:51:25.340 rhyme
00:51:25.820 but also
00:51:26.620 today
00:51:27.160 you have
00:51:27.660 people
00:51:28.040 marrying
00:51:28.920 inanimate
00:51:29.620 objects
00:51:30.340 you know
00:51:31.440 this
00:51:31.740 all the
00:51:32.480 debauchery
00:51:33.120 that you
00:51:33.800 just described
00:51:34.600 is something
00:51:35.120 that like
00:51:35.560 yeah
00:51:35.680 that's
00:51:35.960 happening
00:51:36.340 right now
00:51:37.160 I see
00:51:37.680 M1990
00:51:39.200 I think
00:51:39.480 we actually
00:51:39.900 follow each
00:51:40.320 other
00:51:40.440 in excess
00:51:40.760 in the
00:51:41.040 comments
00:51:41.420 it's saying
00:51:43.360 that he
00:51:43.600 wanted to
00:51:43.880 be
00:51:43.900 trans
00:51:44.140 that's
00:51:44.440 actually
00:51:44.640 a modern
00:51:45.180 play
00:51:45.520 on that
00:51:45.820 too
00:51:46.020 so
00:51:46.260 go figure
00:51:47.700 our
00:51:47.980 historians
00:51:48.500 now are
00:51:48.900 trying to
00:51:49.160 tie
00:51:49.320 themselves
00:51:49.600 to that
00:51:50.080 of course
00:51:50.660 yeah
00:51:50.960 it
00:51:52.320 sounds like
00:51:53.680 what
00:51:54.120 this has
00:51:55.000 in common
00:51:55.380 is like
00:51:55.660 whenever
00:51:55.900 you're
00:51:56.660 consoling
00:51:57.380 with
00:51:57.560 entities
00:51:57.940 if you're
00:51:58.420 like
00:51:58.660 carrying
00:51:59.520 around
00:51:59.860 a black
00:52:00.360 cube
00:52:00.800 and
00:52:01.080 worshipping
00:52:01.520 the sun
00:52:02.040 honestly
00:52:03.180 that sounds
00:52:03.680 like
00:52:03.940 Saturn
00:52:05.480 worship
00:52:05.880 that
00:52:06.340 Saturn
00:52:06.660 that goes
00:52:07.400 to
00:52:07.560 Satanism
00:52:08.020 and then
00:52:08.340 from
00:52:08.560 Satanism
00:52:09.020 that can
00:52:09.280 be
00:52:09.380 extrapolated
00:52:09.980 down
00:52:10.240 into
00:52:10.560 name
00:52:11.540 your
00:52:11.740 fallen
00:52:12.040 angel
00:52:12.520 which
00:52:13.360 one
00:52:13.480 are they
00:52:13.780 worshipping
00:52:14.400 but it
00:52:15.000 always
00:52:15.280 comes
00:52:15.460 I don't
00:52:15.660 know
00:52:15.780 but many
00:52:16.160 historians
00:52:16.860 call it
00:52:17.280 a conical
00:52:17.940 black rock
00:52:18.720 so you
00:52:19.280 know
00:52:19.440 black rock
00:52:20.540 go figure
00:52:21.000 yep
00:52:21.560 that's it
00:52:22.060 again and
00:52:22.520 again
00:52:22.800 well that's
00:52:23.900 just some
00:52:24.280 Jewish stuff
00:52:24.860 right now
00:52:25.220 but black
00:52:25.660 rock
00:52:25.900 who knows
00:52:26.360 who knows
00:52:26.860 who actually
00:52:27.220 owns that
00:52:27.700 but it
00:52:28.820 always comes
00:52:29.760 back to
00:52:30.380 butt sex
00:52:31.460 it comes
00:52:32.420 back to
00:52:33.360 fallen
00:52:34.720 angel
00:52:35.140 worship
00:52:35.580 of some
00:52:36.220 type
00:52:36.520 and then
00:52:37.340 the rest
00:52:37.660 of this
00:52:37.980 debauchery
00:52:38.600 and it
00:52:39.300 just rhymes
00:52:40.040 every single
00:52:40.720 time
00:52:41.140 yeah
00:52:42.500 yeah
00:52:43.300 it's
00:52:43.920 kind of
00:52:44.200 wild
00:52:44.460 man
00:52:44.660 because
00:52:44.900 then what
00:52:45.240 ends up
00:52:45.540 happening
00:52:45.880 is
00:52:46.400 it's
00:52:48.240 what ends
00:52:48.660 up happening
00:52:49.100 is you
00:52:49.320 talked about
00:52:49.560 the over
00:52:49.800 correction
00:52:50.120 before
00:52:50.480 so what
00:52:51.020 ends up
00:52:51.320 happening
00:52:51.640 is someone
00:52:52.040 comes in
00:52:52.660 to put
00:52:53.400 in
00:52:53.720 some
00:52:54.340 order
00:52:54.700 and then
00:52:56.200 things go
00:52:57.180 fully the
00:52:57.740 other way
00:52:58.120 right
00:52:58.340 it's an
00:52:58.640 over
00:52:58.920 correction
00:52:59.400 and that's
00:52:59.780 if you
00:52:59.980 look at
00:53:00.220 the third
00:53:00.520 century
00:53:00.780 crisis
00:53:01.160 it becomes
00:53:01.600 fully
00:53:02.800 about
00:53:03.100 power
00:53:03.540 where it's
00:53:03.900 literally
00:53:04.260 just
00:53:04.520 military
00:53:04.960 guys
00:53:05.300 trying to
00:53:05.660 kill
00:53:05.840 each
00:53:06.040 other
00:53:06.240 and
00:53:06.980 that's
00:53:08.040 one of
00:53:08.440 the major
00:53:08.800 instability
00:53:09.300 points
00:53:09.720 that's
00:53:09.860 going to
00:53:10.040 cause
00:53:10.320 the west
00:53:10.680 to eventually
00:53:11.160 fall
00:53:11.560 is that
00:53:12.160 when they
00:53:14.940 look at the
00:53:15.240 Roman Empire
00:53:15.660 too
00:53:15.880 historians
00:53:16.300 tend to
00:53:16.600 break it
00:53:16.880 into two
00:53:17.160 parts
00:53:17.520 they call
00:53:18.440 the first
00:53:19.180 part
00:53:19.620 the
00:53:20.260 principate
00:53:20.880 it comes
00:53:21.780 from the word
00:53:22.440 princeps
00:53:22.960 which is what
00:53:23.440 Augustus would have
00:53:24.060 called himself
00:53:24.620 or prince
00:53:25.240 is where we get
00:53:25.620 our modern
00:53:25.960 word from
00:53:26.440 because he
00:53:27.820 didn't want
00:53:28.000 to call himself
00:53:28.360 a king
00:53:28.660 because the
00:53:28.880 Romans
00:53:29.000 hated
00:53:29.520 kings
00:53:29.960 in the
00:53:30.980 280s
00:53:31.520 when
00:53:31.660 Diocletian
00:53:32.200 takes over
00:53:32.760 they start
00:53:33.880 using the word
00:53:34.640 dominate
00:53:35.120 it comes
00:53:35.560 from the word
00:53:35.860 dominus
00:53:36.360 or lord
00:53:36.900 it's actually
00:53:37.740 the medieval
00:53:38.200 model for
00:53:38.820 kingship
00:53:39.220 if you look
00:53:39.600 at a lot
00:53:39.900 of how
00:53:40.280 Diocletian
00:53:41.100 functioned
00:53:42.060 whereas
00:53:42.480 during the
00:53:43.000 principate
00:53:43.460 people would
00:53:43.840 have actually
00:53:44.120 had access
00:53:45.380 to their
00:53:45.720 emperor
00:53:46.020 during the
00:53:46.540 dominate
00:53:47.040 they don't
00:53:47.640 and if
00:53:48.860 you could
00:53:49.160 look at
00:53:49.560 this third
00:53:50.060 century
00:53:50.400 crisis
00:53:50.860 it creates
00:53:51.860 such an
00:53:52.360 overcorrection
00:53:53.120 that you
00:53:53.540 go from
00:53:54.440 you know
00:53:55.580 I'm not going
00:53:56.120 to say
00:53:56.380 the empire
00:53:58.740 is a great
00:53:59.120 place
00:53:59.360 but a pretty
00:53:59.800 decent place
00:54:00.440 to a very
00:54:01.560 brutal
00:54:02.160 place
00:54:02.880 that is
00:54:04.600 we touched
00:54:05.080 on it
00:54:05.340 a moment
00:54:05.620 before
00:54:06.060 and I'd
00:54:06.680 love to
00:54:07.000 hear your
00:54:07.500 thoughts
00:54:07.800 on it
00:54:08.120 a little
00:54:09.200 bit more
00:54:09.520 but that's
00:54:10.940 where I think
00:54:11.380 we're going
00:54:11.820 when we talked
00:54:12.440 about the idea
00:54:13.080 of a pressure
00:54:13.600 cooker
00:54:14.000 right to
00:54:14.860 suppress
00:54:15.340 masculinity
00:54:16.000 even
00:54:16.960 I don't know
00:54:18.060 how much
00:54:18.360 you see it
00:54:18.820 on Twitter
00:54:19.340 but there is
00:54:19.940 this notion
00:54:20.700 of all of a
00:54:21.580 sudden people
00:54:22.080 calling out
00:54:22.880 Jews for
00:54:23.900 you know
00:54:24.280 you touched
00:54:24.660 on the
00:54:24.900 Weimar Republic
00:54:25.520 before
00:54:25.980 this sort
00:54:27.400 of hidden
00:54:27.720 history aspect
00:54:28.620 we didn't
00:54:29.040 understand what
00:54:29.480 really happened
00:54:30.000 in Germany
00:54:30.420 and we
00:54:31.940 for a long
00:54:32.480 time have
00:54:32.920 not been
00:54:33.240 able to
00:54:33.560 discuss
00:54:33.820 these
00:54:34.560 peoples
00:54:35.020 we haven't
00:54:36.180 been able
00:54:36.480 to discuss
00:54:37.180 or express
00:54:38.000 masculinity
00:54:38.620 without it
00:54:39.120 being labeled
00:54:39.540 toxic
00:54:40.000 I feel like
00:54:40.940 it's a really
00:54:41.540 interesting
00:54:42.180 setup
00:54:43.340 inside of a
00:54:44.020 pressure cooker
00:54:44.520 to join those
00:54:45.120 two things
00:54:45.580 together
00:54:45.960 and I worry
00:54:47.100 that what
00:54:47.780 we are going
00:54:48.280 to see
00:54:48.640 is like a
00:54:49.400 nice period
00:54:50.040 but then a
00:54:51.000 dramatic
00:54:51.340 overcorrection
00:54:52.080 I've been
00:54:52.420 saying that
00:54:53.020 the cultural
00:54:53.560 pendulum
00:54:54.080 or at least
00:54:54.940 the political
00:54:56.020 pendulum is
00:54:56.660 certainly about
00:54:57.120 to swing back
00:54:57.820 to let's
00:54:59.000 say Republican
00:54:59.600 but there
00:55:00.920 are cultural
00:55:01.560 connotations
00:55:02.300 that are
00:55:02.680 associated
00:55:03.160 with being
00:55:03.660 Republican
00:55:04.160 conservatism
00:55:04.880 and things
00:55:05.160 of that
00:55:05.420 nature
00:55:05.720 I think
00:55:06.380 that we're
00:55:07.060 going to
00:55:07.760 right now
00:55:08.740 it seems
00:55:09.160 we're strapping
00:55:09.700 a rocket
00:55:10.180 to that
00:55:10.600 pendulum
00:55:10.960 and it's
00:55:11.620 going to
00:55:12.000 swing back
00:55:12.720 in the
00:55:13.140 other direction
00:55:13.720 away from
00:55:14.420 you know
00:55:15.460 liberal
00:55:15.800 to conservatism
00:55:17.340 and we're
00:55:18.420 going to
00:55:18.900 see
00:55:19.360 you know
00:55:20.280 if the
00:55:20.820 LGBTQ
00:55:21.440 community
00:55:22.300 and all
00:55:22.700 the things
00:55:23.040 that happened
00:55:23.600 with that
00:55:24.200 were
00:55:24.720 the
00:55:26.080 left
00:55:27.200 going too
00:55:27.720 far
00:55:28.040 I wonder
00:55:29.080 what it's
00:55:29.460 going to
00:55:29.820 look like
00:55:30.280 when the
00:55:30.660 right goes
00:55:31.160 too far
00:55:31.560 and I
00:55:31.900 feel like
00:55:32.500 that is
00:55:33.040 very much
00:55:33.620 what you
00:55:33.880 just described
00:55:34.500 this over
00:55:34.920 correction
00:55:35.280 is what
00:55:36.020 we're going
00:55:36.420 towards
00:55:36.740 do you
00:55:36.960 think
00:55:37.100 that that
00:55:37.460 is
00:55:37.720 well
00:55:38.040 and that's
00:55:38.380 the concern
00:55:38.880 because you
00:55:39.300 look at
00:55:39.580 someone like
00:55:40.040 like Trump's
00:55:40.600 a moderate
00:55:41.080 like he's
00:55:41.600 a moderate
00:55:42.040 by the
00:55:42.440 normal
00:55:42.760 political
00:55:43.300 spectrum
00:55:44.020 but it's
00:55:44.520 just
00:55:44.700 everything
00:55:45.480 that's not
00:55:45.960 far left
00:55:46.580 now is
00:55:46.940 far right
00:55:47.560 and I think
00:55:48.340 what you're
00:55:48.740 going to end
00:55:49.140 up creating
00:55:49.840 by going so
00:55:50.640 hard after
00:55:51.060 someone's a
00:55:51.540 moderate
00:55:51.820 is you
00:55:52.280 create something
00:55:52.980 way
00:55:54.140 way worse
00:55:55.300 you know
00:55:55.840 and I think
00:55:56.180 that's the
00:55:56.620 problem
00:55:56.980 is they're
00:55:57.280 like Trump
00:55:57.740 is Hitler
00:55:58.240 he's Caesar
00:55:58.960 he's this
00:55:59.420 he's that
00:55:59.860 and I think
00:56:00.520 the problem
00:56:01.040 is by doing
00:56:01.860 that what
00:56:03.020 you create
00:56:03.540 that comes
00:56:03.980 after Trump
00:56:04.820 could be
00:56:05.280 scary
00:56:05.680 and I think
00:56:06.560 that's that's
00:56:07.480 the actual
00:56:08.020 problem is that
00:56:08.960 is that over
00:56:09.400 correction that
00:56:09.940 direction is
00:56:10.700 you can create
00:56:11.960 so much
00:56:12.700 craziness that
00:56:14.280 now we go
00:56:14.700 somewhere else
00:56:15.140 because you
00:56:15.560 have all these
00:56:16.080 other groups
00:56:16.500 that feel like
00:56:16.820 they've been
00:56:17.100 pushed out
00:56:17.560 yeah
00:56:18.420 you get what
00:56:18.840 I'm trying
00:56:19.060 to say
00:56:19.400 the sort of
00:56:20.640 the vindication
00:56:21.260 of it too
00:56:21.780 it's like
00:56:22.260 one if you
00:56:23.740 push a person
00:56:24.320 against the wall
00:56:25.040 enough and you
00:56:25.500 call them
00:56:26.140 toxic
00:56:26.840 you call them
00:56:27.660 racist
00:56:28.000 you call them
00:56:28.520 this and that
00:56:29.060 well eventually
00:56:29.900 some people
00:56:30.500 have the proclivity
00:56:31.120 to go
00:56:31.440 you know what
00:56:31.860 fine
00:56:32.300 if I can't
00:56:33.660 reason my way
00:56:34.720 out of these
00:56:35.160 accusations
00:56:35.720 and you're going
00:56:36.200 to put these
00:56:36.540 labels on me
00:56:37.120 anyway
00:56:37.380 then I'm going
00:56:37.920 to go ahead
00:56:38.260 and be exactly
00:56:38.960 what you're calling
00:56:39.400 me
00:56:39.480 I think people
00:56:39.900 have a tendency
00:56:40.540 to kind of
00:56:41.060 do that
00:56:41.460 and I think
00:56:41.740 the other
00:56:42.040 thing is
00:56:42.500 when you
00:56:44.240 push a guy
00:56:45.600 down like
00:56:46.200 Trump
00:56:46.460 constantly
00:56:47.360 and then
00:56:48.340 all of a sudden
00:56:49.260 eventually he does
00:56:50.340 start to get
00:56:50.840 his W's
00:56:51.680 he does start
00:56:52.280 to get
00:56:52.620 vindication
00:56:53.500 in one way
00:56:54.140 or another
00:56:54.540 because what
00:56:55.180 you levied
00:56:55.540 against him
00:56:56.040 is paper thin
00:56:56.640 it falls apart
00:56:57.340 and then all
00:56:58.180 of a sudden
00:56:58.520 the very people
00:56:59.140 launching these
00:56:59.720 accusations
00:57:00.260 get exposed
00:57:01.080 as being
00:57:01.900 terrible
00:57:02.660 themselves
00:57:03.280 and the culture
00:57:04.840 starts to swing
00:57:05.440 towards this guy
00:57:06.020 I think vindication
00:57:06.800 of that level
00:57:07.360 can be also
00:57:08.220 very dangerous
00:57:09.820 so yeah
00:57:10.180 I think we are
00:57:10.760 going towards
00:57:11.540 an overcorrection
00:57:12.480 and that's
00:57:13.700 that's really
00:57:14.360 the scary part
00:57:15.220 is
00:57:15.480 they're creating
00:57:17.020 a situation
00:57:17.700 so let's talk
00:57:19.160 about Julius Caesar
00:57:19.820 for a second
00:57:20.220 because I think
00:57:20.620 history doesn't
00:57:21.240 fully understand him
00:57:22.320 and
00:57:23.320 what actually
00:57:24.820 creates the fall
00:57:25.780 of the republic
00:57:27.020 isn't really Caesar
00:57:28.700 it's actually
00:57:29.940 the people
00:57:30.420 that try to
00:57:31.020 stop Caesar
00:57:31.720 right
00:57:32.300 it's the whole
00:57:32.660 idea of like
00:57:33.240 ending democracy
00:57:34.340 to save it
00:57:35.060 and that's
00:57:35.980 exactly what
00:57:36.760 happened
00:57:36.960 so Caesar holds
00:57:37.880 the consulship
00:57:39.400 in 59 BC
00:57:40.580 consul is kind
00:57:41.420 of like being
00:57:41.760 president
00:57:42.160 but they would
00:57:42.500 have two
00:57:42.840 at the same
00:57:43.260 time
00:57:43.680 because they
00:57:45.140 didn't want
00:57:45.380 one person
00:57:45.840 to hold power
00:57:46.300 and they would
00:57:46.880 hold that power
00:57:47.400 for a year
00:57:47.860 so his
00:57:49.860 the other
00:57:50.260 consul in that
00:57:50.960 year is a guy
00:57:51.560 named Marcus
00:57:52.140 Biblius
00:57:52.680 but he's kind
00:57:53.600 of like a front
00:57:54.120 man
00:57:54.340 the guy behind
00:57:54.940 him is this
00:57:55.320 guy Cato
00:57:55.720 the younger
00:57:56.060 and he's
00:57:57.640 an enemy
00:57:58.260 of Caesar's
00:57:58.940 and Caesar
00:57:59.760 for the most
00:58:00.380 part was really
00:58:01.120 a populist
00:58:01.960 there's two
00:58:03.100 political factions
00:58:03.960 during this time
00:58:04.500 period called
00:58:04.980 the optimates
00:58:05.860 or the great
00:58:06.760 ones which
00:58:07.300 are the rich
00:58:07.640 people
00:58:07.940 and the senate
00:58:08.580 and the
00:58:09.720 popularis
00:58:10.380 which are
00:58:10.620 people that
00:58:10.960 did things
00:58:11.380 more for
00:58:11.860 the popular
00:58:12.720 people
00:58:13.100 so though
00:58:13.860 Caesar was
00:58:14.660 should have
00:58:15.940 been an
00:58:16.280 optimate
00:58:16.760 by birth
00:58:17.200 because he's
00:58:17.560 a patrician
00:58:18.120 he's broke
00:58:18.960 his entire
00:58:19.380 career
00:58:19.620 so he's
00:58:19.960 always borrowing
00:58:20.500 money in order
00:58:21.160 to like
00:58:21.520 get to the
00:58:22.820 next political
00:58:23.160 position
00:58:23.520 so he holds
00:58:24.900 the consulship
00:58:25.520 in 59
00:58:25.980 the first
00:58:26.500 thing he does
00:58:27.360 is rich
00:58:28.500 people had a
00:58:29.120 tendency to take
00:58:29.900 the public
00:58:30.380 land and just
00:58:30.960 use it as
00:58:31.320 their own farms
00:58:31.900 because like
00:58:32.340 I'm rich
00:58:32.880 what are you
00:58:33.080 going to do
00:58:33.380 what Caesar
00:58:35.200 tries to do
00:58:35.620 is take that
00:58:36.080 public land
00:58:36.660 and give it
00:58:37.040 to veterans
00:58:37.520 as like
00:58:37.980 a retirement
00:58:38.640 pension
00:58:39.020 and that
00:58:40.760 gets people
00:58:41.300 really
00:58:41.640 that gets
00:58:42.140 the senate
00:58:42.540 really upset
00:58:43.220 so then
00:58:44.060 Cato and
00:58:45.040 Biblius
00:58:45.420 try to block
00:58:45.980 this so Caesar
00:58:46.800 actually goes
00:58:47.360 directly to the
00:58:47.860 people and gets
00:58:48.260 the people to
00:58:48.660 vote for it
00:58:49.220 so then the
00:58:50.600 people actually
00:58:51.300 chase Biblius
00:58:52.380 into his home
00:58:53.040 and he doesn't
00:58:53.580 leave his home
00:58:53.980 for an entire
00:58:54.440 year
00:58:54.820 so they end up
00:58:55.720 calling the
00:58:56.040 consulship
00:58:56.620 rather than the
00:58:57.280 consulship
00:58:57.860 of Caesar and
00:59:00.160 Biblius
00:59:00.540 they end up
00:59:00.860 calling it the
00:59:01.240 consulship of
00:59:01.820 Julius and
00:59:02.440 Caesar
00:59:02.720 because Caesar
00:59:04.580 is working
00:59:04.960 privately with
00:59:05.580 these two
00:59:05.880 other individuals
00:59:06.820 Rome's greatest
00:59:07.500 general Pompey
00:59:08.300 the Great
00:59:08.600 and Rome's
00:59:09.140 richest man
00:59:09.720 Marcus Crassus
00:59:10.400 they call it
00:59:10.780 the first
00:59:11.080 triumvirate
00:59:11.640 so then after
00:59:12.740 that Caesar
00:59:14.300 goes to spend
00:59:15.060 nine years in
00:59:16.100 Gaul as what's
00:59:16.820 called a
00:59:17.120 proconsul
00:59:17.880 meaning a
00:59:18.340 consul outside
00:59:19.020 of Rome
00:59:19.700 and he kills
00:59:20.660 about a million
00:59:21.240 people in this
00:59:21.860 period of time
00:59:22.320 so let's not
00:59:22.960 make him
00:59:23.440 you know
00:59:23.860 this
00:59:24.460 ultra great
00:59:25.900 populace
00:59:26.440 but anyway
00:59:26.880 he's going to
00:59:28.340 come back to
00:59:28.880 Gaul after
00:59:29.340 his proconsulship
00:59:30.160 expires
00:59:31.580 and if you
00:59:32.320 held one of
00:59:32.840 these political
00:59:33.320 positions you
00:59:34.060 couldn't be
00:59:34.660 charged with
00:59:35.240 any crimes
00:59:35.700 of any sort
00:59:36.200 so he
00:59:37.800 hears to the
00:59:39.040 grapevine that
00:59:39.640 Cato his
00:59:40.160 enemy is like
00:59:40.740 so we have
00:59:42.540 these corruption
00:59:43.220 courts and
00:59:44.040 we've decided
00:59:44.620 you're corrupt
00:59:45.320 and we've got
00:59:46.060 these crimes and
00:59:46.840 we're going to
00:59:47.180 charge you with
00:59:47.720 them so Caesar
00:59:48.920 decides he's
00:59:49.520 going to run
00:59:49.760 for consul
00:59:50.240 again Rome
00:59:51.260 has a in
00:59:52.340 person voting
00:59:53.360 system so he
00:59:54.000 would actually
00:59:54.260 have to show
00:59:54.620 up in person
00:59:55.000 to be voted
00:59:55.320 for he
00:59:56.500 petitions the
00:59:57.640 Senate to be
00:59:58.500 voted for in
00:59:59.060 abstentia it's
00:59:59.720 approved
01:00:00.160 Cato gets
01:00:01.200 that block
01:00:01.800 so Caesar
01:00:02.280 still would
01:00:02.640 have to show
01:00:02.980 up in person
01:00:03.460 so Caesar
01:00:04.540 takes his
01:00:04.960 ten legions
01:00:05.600 marches down
01:00:06.380 through northern
01:00:07.540 Italy leaves
01:00:08.660 nine of them
01:00:09.340 at this river
01:00:10.220 called the
01:00:12.300 Rubicon and
01:00:13.060 then takes one
01:00:13.600 of his legions
01:00:14.120 and crosses the
01:00:14.800 Rubicon and
01:00:16.080 people often say
01:00:17.420 he says oh the
01:00:18.040 die is cast
01:00:18.780 it's actually a
01:00:19.420 mistranslation he
01:00:20.320 was quoting
01:00:21.960 Greek tragedy
01:00:22.780 it would have
01:00:23.180 just been let
01:00:23.600 the chips fall
01:00:24.100 where they may
01:00:24.500 so then he
01:00:26.060 and his one
01:00:26.460 legion enter the
01:00:27.160 city of Rome
01:00:27.780 and all of his
01:00:28.920 enemies just run
01:00:29.540 away
01:00:30.160 they just leave
01:00:30.860 and they let
01:00:31.160 him have the
01:00:31.520 city and that
01:00:32.400 is actually how
01:00:33.180 Caesar ends up
01:00:34.000 becoming dictator
01:00:35.380 is basically they
01:00:36.400 call his bluff and
01:00:37.340 he's like well I
01:00:38.100 got the army you
01:00:38.720 don't I'm gonna
01:00:39.180 come and that
01:00:40.320 ends up how we
01:00:40.900 ends up being how
01:00:42.160 we get there so I
01:00:42.800 think the problem
01:00:43.540 you end up seeing
01:00:44.280 is often this
01:00:46.320 idea of trying
01:00:48.060 to protect things
01:00:49.120 will you know
01:00:50.760 cause the thing
01:00:51.700 you don't want
01:00:52.100 to happen
01:00:52.560 sorry for that
01:00:54.960 long explanation
01:00:55.520 no no
01:00:56.020 that's um
01:00:56.840 is it
01:00:57.520 is
01:00:58.460 am I correct
01:00:59.160 top in saying
01:00:59.860 that's the
01:01:00.180 Streisand effect
01:01:00.880 yeah
01:01:02.040 yeah it's literally
01:01:03.480 that's what's
01:01:04.120 happening right
01:01:04.600 now when it
01:01:05.860 it's coming
01:01:06.660 particularly to
01:01:07.320 Trump in my
01:01:07.860 opinion it's like
01:01:08.540 everybody is
01:01:10.400 you know from
01:01:11.400 the jump
01:01:11.920 it's they don't
01:01:12.520 like his
01:01:12.900 language
01:01:13.400 he's he's
01:01:14.260 you know
01:01:15.240 against women
01:01:17.080 he's against
01:01:17.840 you know blacks
01:01:18.880 he's against
01:01:19.360 Mexicans all
01:01:19.940 these different
01:01:20.300 things and I
01:01:22.820 think it's it's
01:01:24.100 manifesting you
01:01:25.920 know manifest
01:01:26.620 destiny or a
01:01:27.600 self-fulfilling
01:01:28.060 prophecy where
01:01:29.100 it's like you're
01:01:29.540 trying desperately
01:01:30.560 to get this guy
01:01:32.060 out of office and
01:01:33.220 all it's doing is
01:01:34.460 it's painting the
01:01:35.060 picture for like
01:01:35.720 this incredible
01:01:36.380 comeback story that
01:01:37.220 I think we're in
01:01:37.700 the middle of
01:01:38.120 wasn't there that
01:01:39.400 uh that play of
01:01:40.640 Trump as Caesar
01:01:41.840 getting stabbed
01:01:42.640 do you guys
01:01:43.280 recall this or is
01:01:44.480 this a Mandela
01:01:45.040 effect the
01:01:45.600 Shakespeare play
01:01:46.240 I forgot I
01:01:48.240 forgot what it
01:01:48.940 even oh I
01:01:49.980 think I know
01:01:50.320 you're talking
01:01:50.720 about that was
01:01:51.280 that was in
01:01:51.700 New York wasn't
01:01:52.300 it they actually
01:01:52.680 did a play of
01:01:53.260 him being
01:01:53.560 probably that
01:01:54.460 happened that
01:01:55.340 happened I
01:01:55.800 don't remember
01:01:56.020 what it's
01:01:56.260 called that's
01:01:57.580 fascinating now
01:01:58.340 you're already
01:01:58.720 likening to him
01:01:59.560 it is so I
01:02:02.060 mean this this
01:02:02.580 conversation is
01:02:03.400 you know then
01:02:04.200 you have the
01:02:04.520 assassination attempt
01:02:05.520 which uh
01:02:06.900 was there were
01:02:08.180 there multiple
01:02:08.640 attempts on on
01:02:09.840 Caesar there
01:02:10.780 you go this is
01:02:11.120 2017 from the
01:02:12.260 Guardian Trump
01:02:13.400 is Julius Caesar
01:02:14.140 play uh
01:02:15.700 overplay Mrs
01:02:16.500 Shakespeare's
01:02:17.180 points as
01:02:17.700 scholar where
01:02:18.200 did this happen
01:02:18.780 um it
01:02:19.300 happened in
01:02:19.740 New York
01:02:20.320 um yeah I
01:02:23.440 can send you
01:02:23.700 this article
01:02:24.020 this is fun
01:02:24.560 that is fun
01:02:25.760 that's that's
01:02:27.640 it's a weird
01:02:28.200 thing I often
01:02:28.880 wonder when it
01:02:30.080 comes to because
01:02:31.120 on this show we
01:02:31.800 believe in this
01:02:32.320 sort of a
01:02:33.020 spiritual aspect
01:02:34.520 to all of
01:02:35.060 this and that
01:02:35.960 that is what
01:02:37.120 uh moves things
01:02:38.000 along and I
01:02:40.120 wonder if the
01:02:41.480 players on the
01:02:42.280 world stage know
01:02:43.560 the roles that
01:02:44.320 they're playing or
01:02:44.940 if these things
01:02:45.460 just happen uh
01:02:46.800 if they're being
01:02:47.340 moved along in
01:02:48.040 a way by a
01:02:48.800 force that we
01:02:49.320 can't see I
01:02:50.360 mean here you
01:02:51.520 actually have that
01:02:52.280 article I'd love
01:02:52.880 to see that let's
01:02:53.360 bring that up
01:02:54.260 oh they want to
01:02:57.380 give us Trump
01:02:58.580 this is a privacy
01:02:59.220 statement that you
01:02:59.780 don't have to pay
01:03:00.040 for anything
01:03:00.380 Trump is Julius
01:03:03.040 Caesar anger
01:03:03.860 overplay Mrs
01:03:04.840 Shakespeare's point
01:03:05.620 but yeah this did
01:03:06.580 happen I do
01:03:07.320 remember seeing
01:03:08.700 this there was
01:03:09.160 even a video of
01:03:10.140 so it wasn't the
01:03:11.200 Mandela effect
01:03:11.920 no thank god it
01:03:13.360 wasn't because I'm
01:03:13.860 like not yet
01:03:14.520 can you imagine
01:03:16.200 if they implanted
01:03:16.720 that one in your
01:03:17.220 head oh
01:03:18.880 interesting
01:03:19.480 interesting it's
01:03:20.280 like that movie
01:03:21.020 um gosh that
01:03:22.480 apparently never
01:03:23.020 happened uh
01:03:24.080 Shazam um that
01:03:26.200 I'm so convinced
01:03:27.080 is part of my
01:03:27.640 childhood experience
01:03:28.280 but apparently is
01:03:28.840 not real yeah
01:03:30.280 def not X are in
01:03:31.440 the chat is saying
01:03:32.120 that Shazam there's
01:03:32.900 a there's a lot of
01:03:33.680 really weird uh
01:03:34.920 I wonder if the
01:03:35.960 Roman Empire had
01:03:36.740 any Mandela effects
01:03:37.880 this is just like a
01:03:39.220 uh you know common
01:03:40.660 occurrence or that I
01:03:42.420 don't that I don't
01:03:43.140 know that takes a much
01:03:43.860 longer time to trace
01:03:44.800 was there a
01:03:45.540 tremendous amount
01:03:46.080 of like drug use
01:03:47.040 uh psychedelic use
01:03:48.480 uh you know substance
01:03:49.900 abuse in the in the
01:03:50.860 Roman Empire because
01:03:51.720 it's my understanding
01:03:52.300 there was a lot of
01:03:52.820 that and tied into
01:03:53.740 their culture uh and
01:03:55.740 I I wonder you know
01:03:57.280 if you could trace
01:03:58.420 that sort of thing
01:03:59.000 and say yeah towards
01:03:59.700 the end there was
01:04:00.340 much more of a use
01:04:01.560 of these things
01:04:02.180 well they were just
01:04:03.000 heavy heavy heavy
01:04:04.040 drinkers um you
01:04:05.520 know a lot of it is
01:04:06.080 also because like they
01:04:06.900 didn't trust water as
01:04:07.760 much during this time
01:04:08.300 period because it
01:04:08.740 wasn't as clean so
01:04:09.700 you had a better chance
01:04:11.020 of drinking wine and
01:04:11.840 not dying um so
01:04:13.240 like even Mark
01:04:14.660 Antony um um who
01:04:16.240 was uh Caesar's top
01:04:18.320 general and ended up
01:04:19.120 being the guy fighting
01:04:20.360 August or Augustus at
01:04:21.960 the end of the
01:04:22.460 Republic like he was
01:04:24.020 supposedly just drunk
01:04:24.840 all the time so like
01:04:26.000 there there was heavy
01:04:26.860 heavy drinking throughout
01:04:28.000 the entire Republican
01:04:29.580 Empire because I guess
01:04:30.460 that's just how the
01:04:31.160 culture was and at the
01:04:31.880 same time um the
01:04:33.720 water wasn't very safe
01:04:34.800 um I went to China a
01:04:36.380 number of years ago by
01:04:36.880 the way we carried
01:04:37.340 around a backpack of
01:04:38.100 beer because I did not
01:04:39.000 trust the water um and
01:04:40.240 I felt like I was in a
01:04:41.260 safer condition but
01:04:42.200 there's this cult that
01:04:43.060 actually comes out of
01:04:44.320 um it's a Greek cult and
01:04:46.660 there's um I'm trying to
01:04:48.860 forget which writer it
01:04:49.660 was it actually was it
01:04:50.400 Sophocles that actually
01:04:51.200 writes about it but
01:04:51.840 anyway um there's a cult
01:04:53.500 that comes out of Greece
01:04:55.120 and there's actually a
01:04:56.000 play written about it but
01:04:56.900 they're called the
01:04:57.360 Bacchae and what they
01:04:58.760 would do is they if you
01:05:00.540 leave grapes too long
01:05:01.560 they get an interesting
01:05:02.200 kind of mold on them and
01:05:03.580 they would use that mold to
01:05:05.200 make moldy grape wine and
01:05:07.200 people would just get high
01:05:08.580 as hell and make
01:05:09.280 predictions and stuff
01:05:10.260 interesting that does
01:05:11.900 make its way into Rome
01:05:13.020 eventually but it is
01:05:13.920 initially a Greek cult
01:05:15.140 yeah that's a mold would
01:05:17.440 be like some sort of a
01:05:18.400 fungus so there's a
01:05:19.720 probably a psychedelic
01:05:20.580 yeah psychedelic wine
01:05:22.340 wow right and in today's
01:05:24.900 society that would sell
01:05:25.960 like crazy all of my
01:05:27.840 knowledge my limited
01:05:28.600 knowledge of Greek
01:05:29.300 culture comes from the
01:05:30.120 movie 300 and and in
01:05:32.960 that film uh they they
01:05:34.600 have a scene where in
01:05:35.940 order to be able to go
01:05:36.960 to war uh Leonidas has
01:05:39.440 to consult with the the
01:05:41.460 priest class and then
01:05:42.700 they need to uh have
01:05:44.640 their muse interact with
01:05:46.820 the spirits and so this
01:05:48.320 girl has to you know take
01:05:50.400 some sort of psychedelics
01:05:51.400 and commune with the
01:05:52.800 spirit realm and that's
01:05:53.940 where they get their
01:05:54.500 information well a lot of
01:05:54.520 times that was sulfur and
01:05:55.920 stuff like that because
01:05:56.740 what they would do is they
01:05:57.660 would hold a lot of these
01:05:58.400 ceremonies in caves and a
01:05:59.640 lot of that stuff is
01:06:00.140 coming out of the walls so
01:06:01.340 they'd be like oh wow you
01:06:02.300 go to this place and have
01:06:02.900 a vision no you're
01:06:04.080 probably dying you're
01:06:05.320 you're going to that
01:06:06.600 place and literally
01:06:07.480 suffocating your brain
01:06:08.880 and just on the edge of
01:06:10.040 death you're having
01:06:10.640 visions that is that's
01:06:12.400 more than likely uh what
01:06:13.480 was happening there i do
01:06:14.320 want to ask you uh a a
01:06:17.040 quick question or not a
01:06:18.560 quick question i think
01:06:19.100 there's gonna be a hard
01:06:19.760 pivot i'm very interested
01:06:20.980 in this uh but before we
01:06:22.300 get to the the point of
01:06:24.040 it we're gonna run an ad
01:06:25.000 but the question is uh and
01:06:27.040 you can think about this
01:06:27.880 while the ad runs we have
01:06:29.960 been communicating with
01:06:31.260 uh somebody who does a
01:06:33.260 book of revelation series
01:06:34.300 with us every friday ed
01:06:35.900 mabry and he has been
01:06:38.300 talking about this idea
01:06:40.060 that the roman empire
01:06:42.280 never truly went away and
01:06:44.900 that it became the vatican
01:06:47.040 and so um i'll let you cook
01:06:49.480 on that for a little bit but
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01:08:24.920 okay so just to reiterate um
01:08:29.860 this idea and i'd love to get
01:08:31.960 your thoughts on it that the
01:08:32.860 roman empire they have rife
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01:08:35.820 they these comments comments are
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01:08:45.080 scott he's still gay uh it's not a
01:08:49.080 miracle machine scott no um but i
01:08:51.480 do want to get your thoughts on
01:08:52.660 the idea that the roman empire
01:08:53.840 never went away and that it
01:08:55.240 actually just turned into the
01:08:56.900 vatican well i think the thing
01:08:58.640 you have to consider is this kind
01:08:59.840 of goes back to what we're
01:09:00.440 talking about earlier and it's
01:09:01.320 the idea of power structures and
01:09:02.940 i think what happens is it's kind
01:09:05.660 of a unique situation where um
01:09:07.820 like where the church was created
01:09:09.060 that it was created as you know
01:09:10.480 part of the roman state because
01:09:11.700 in rome there's no separation
01:09:14.800 between spiritual and temporal
01:09:16.120 right they see spiritual power and
01:09:18.080 temporal power is the same thing
01:09:19.320 and for them that was polytheism
01:09:21.620 and that's why um i think it's
01:09:23.600 plenty the plenty the elder that's
01:09:26.040 actually writing to the emperor
01:09:26.880 about this and trying to explain
01:09:27.960 this um but they they just they
01:09:30.160 didn't quite understand it like for
01:09:32.080 for christians there's a separation
01:09:34.020 between spiritual and the state and
01:09:36.120 so that's why when you have in uh
01:09:38.960 the two late 240s when when decius
01:09:41.560 says oh you have to sacrifice the
01:09:42.720 emperor christians wouldn't do it
01:09:44.500 and this becomes a problem then
01:09:46.440 because well they see this as a
01:09:47.540 political act right they're
01:09:48.380 political revolutionaries they
01:09:49.560 won't they won't sacrifice uh to
01:09:51.740 roman gods and to the emperor but
01:09:53.540 for them it was more or less just a
01:09:55.480 religious act so there's this
01:09:57.440 inability to understand the
01:09:59.160 difference so then what ends up
01:10:00.540 happening then is in 312 after
01:10:04.540 this battle called milvian bridge
01:10:06.200 um constantine has it has a vision
01:10:09.400 and they actually put the kai in the
01:10:11.040 row on shields and they credit um
01:10:14.680 the christian god with basically
01:10:16.100 being the reason that they win this
01:10:17.800 battle of milvian bridge um against
01:10:20.020 another emperor claimant and it makes
01:10:22.060 constantine the guy in charge what
01:10:24.100 ends up happening then is about two
01:10:25.460 percent of the empire during this
01:10:26.640 period is actually christian now
01:10:29.180 what's going to happen is
01:10:30.020 constantine starts favoring christians
01:10:31.760 in political positions so you're going
01:10:33.360 to have people converting to
01:10:34.800 christianity and there's questions
01:10:36.040 well do they believe it are they
01:10:37.060 doing it for political expedience
01:10:38.880 you know once again we don't know
01:10:39.960 it's a very long time ago
01:10:40.920 um by 370 you're going to have
01:10:44.560 christianity becomes the official
01:10:46.360 religion of the empire so in a little
01:10:48.680 over a 50 year period the empire
01:10:51.080 totally changes now what's going to
01:10:54.140 happen as i mentioned when in the
01:10:55.920 280s when um diocletian kind of
01:10:59.060 reconstitutes the empire a lot of
01:11:01.420 those verbages like diocese um and
01:11:04.660 things like that end up becoming
01:11:05.920 words that the catholic church is
01:11:07.340 going to use because that would have
01:11:08.680 been what people would have
01:11:09.460 understood in their daily lives just
01:11:11.480 like when alexander the great
01:11:12.580 conquers persia you know he would
01:11:14.800 call the territories controlled
01:11:16.400 satraps because that's what they
01:11:17.580 called them so it really ends up
01:11:19.300 being just a cultural changeover uh of
01:11:22.500 the things that had been uniquely
01:11:23.680 roman and had been used in kind of
01:11:25.300 the building of this this power
01:11:26.620 structure that that becomes the
01:11:28.660 church do you get what i'm saying
01:11:30.060 like i don't think it's really like
01:11:31.180 it transitioned to a church it's just
01:11:33.280 that this was their culture this is
01:11:34.760 how they understood it and this is
01:11:35.840 when they started becoming
01:11:36.640 christians that's how they would
01:11:37.600 adopt the the verbiage so would you
01:11:39.980 agree then with the sentiment that
01:11:42.560 the roman empire does live on in some
01:11:44.820 way shape or form through the
01:11:45.860 vatican i would say not even just
01:11:47.700 through the vatican and like how many
01:11:48.800 forms of government like go to dc like
01:11:50.500 you look at a lot of those buildings
01:11:51.320 you feel like you're you're in you're
01:11:52.920 in rome or in one of those other
01:11:54.060 areas so i think that's what you
01:11:55.960 have to consider is it's become such a
01:11:57.660 big cultural part of our history um
01:12:00.860 that i think it lives on in many many
01:12:02.920 ways um you know in good ways and in
01:12:05.140 bad right like if you look at um you
01:12:07.260 know the papacy in the middle ages
01:12:08.320 wasn't a wasn't a very good thing just
01:12:10.300 ask ask the cathars what happened in the
01:12:11.900 year 1000 um but if you if you look at
01:12:15.040 kind of those rome as a whole we do end
01:12:18.260 up using it in so many different ways in
01:12:20.080 our lives
01:12:20.560 what do you think about this is
01:12:24.200 something that i think we should
01:12:25.280 explore as we kind of reach this one
01:12:27.180 hour uh and 10 minute mark the the
01:12:31.220 transformation of the way that they
01:12:34.500 worship their gods um because obviously
01:12:38.260 when you go to the vatican it's
01:12:40.300 monotheism uh but when you talk about
01:12:42.680 their their uh when people think of rome
01:12:46.220 it's really polytheism that comes to
01:12:48.500 mind what did it look like when they
01:12:51.260 were worshiping their gods what sort of
01:12:53.360 relationship was it something that was
01:12:56.140 not very culturally significant um is is
01:13:00.820 the polytheistic aspect of roman culture
01:13:04.120 really a backdrop or were their gods
01:13:06.380 really a tremendous integral part of
01:13:09.180 their culture and what did that look
01:13:10.940 like for them as far as worship and
01:13:12.540 sacrifice and things of that nature
01:13:13.860 it's so interesting to describe because
01:13:16.920 it's so ingrained in everything it almost
01:13:18.740 feels like a secular polytheism if that
01:13:20.600 makes sense like it's such a big part of
01:13:22.460 everything that it actually doesn't feel
01:13:23.740 like it has an effect on anything i know
01:13:25.220 that sounds like a mind fuck but do you
01:13:26.320 get what i'm trying to say
01:13:26.920 um like it's such a big part of
01:13:29.740 everything it's almost taken for granted
01:13:31.040 in a lot of ways
01:13:31.760 um where so for example um the word
01:13:34.020 inauguration that we use when when
01:13:35.480 someone takes office
01:13:36.220 um if you break down the word um augury
01:13:39.880 was basically the the study of bird signs
01:13:42.560 so they would look at the bird signs and
01:13:44.460 they would say okay
01:13:45.200 um i know we just voted on consoles but is
01:13:47.760 this a good day for the guy to take
01:13:48.900 office let's take a look at the birds
01:13:49.980 birds look good we're good to go okay
01:13:52.100 good inauguration this person's in
01:13:53.540 office they would also take a look at
01:13:55.760 um the livers of animals and there's if
01:13:58.820 you go if you go look it up there's like
01:14:00.240 you can actually see a map of like the
01:14:02.400 different parts of the liver and what
01:14:03.660 they believe that that part of the liver
01:14:04.940 could tell them and they would open up
01:14:07.040 an animal cut open the liver and see if
01:14:09.400 they were getting good good uh you know
01:14:11.460 portents from that liver sometimes um
01:14:14.880 they would say okay let's just get another
01:14:16.960 liver that one lied to us and so it's
01:14:18.900 very often something they're doing or
01:14:20.540 like you know even go back to the world
01:14:22.180 of the greeks you know alexander the
01:14:23.360 great used to sacrifice a bull before
01:14:25.340 every every battle and that's something
01:14:28.760 that is a augustus ends up making that
01:14:31.140 popular again as the first emperor it
01:14:32.480 actually sacrificed a bull for different
01:14:34.020 things but what ends up happening is you
01:14:37.800 have kind of your um regular roman gods
01:14:40.820 but it also import gods of other
01:14:42.360 religions so so constantine for example
01:14:45.020 he becomes a christian later in life
01:14:46.900 but he's a big worshiper of a god named
01:14:49.000 sol invictus or the immortal son which
01:14:51.140 comes from egypt earlier in his life so
01:14:53.780 what would happen is a lot of the
01:14:55.540 conquered territories gods would come
01:14:56.960 into rome and it was perfectly
01:14:57.940 acceptable to worship those gods
01:14:59.420 and you would really only worship a god
01:15:04.020 on their feast day which is which is a
01:15:05.860 very interesting standpoint a lot of
01:15:07.740 temples might be closed the rest of the
01:15:09.100 year but open on the feast day of that
01:15:10.340 god so it's just a very much
01:15:12.500 that's a funny alexander the great
01:15:15.560 comment um it's it's very much like
01:15:18.880 it's kind of like going through the
01:15:20.120 motions but you have to question do they
01:15:21.660 believe it you know
01:15:22.400 right um that's what i meant is like is
01:15:25.560 there is it a backdrop or is it a
01:15:29.200 something that they really adhered to i i
01:15:31.280 do wonder about uh the the the lengths of
01:15:34.340 their belief or the the sort of the
01:15:36.640 depths of their convictions when it comes
01:15:38.140 to these entities and that's just not
01:15:40.020 something we have enough information on
01:15:42.200 right because it's it's written from the
01:15:43.420 viewpoint of the historians and i i it's
01:15:45.680 you kind of wish that you lived during the
01:15:47.440 time period to know more about it you know
01:15:48.740 even if you did like just right now like
01:15:51.560 you're describing are these people
01:15:53.360 christians we have the the video of
01:15:55.200 donald trump saying i'm not a christian
01:15:58.040 but it looks like he's saying he is and
01:15:59.720 it's like this this uh rorschach test of
01:16:01.980 did he say this or did he say that you
01:16:03.980 know the blue dress the blue and gold
01:16:05.600 dress yes yes um so yeah we wouldn't
01:16:09.160 even know and we don't they didn't have
01:16:11.060 the technology that we did to go back and
01:16:13.040 like reanalyze this stuff it was probably
01:16:14.700 very obscure but the people who took it
01:16:16.420 seriously probably did take it seriously
01:16:18.160 in the background and thanks uh zamaine is
01:16:20.780 awesome for saying props to this guy for
01:16:22.420 reading our comments and somehow still
01:16:23.780 managing to stay focused um i'm i'm good
01:16:25.940 at doing two things at once man i i have
01:16:27.380 three daughters so you have to be able to
01:16:28.980 do many things at once because they're
01:16:30.440 running all over the place um and to
01:16:32.080 your alexander the great comment um yes
01:16:34.320 that is true it's a cultural thing um
01:16:36.220 it was very it was very acceptable in
01:16:39.260 that time period to kind of be doing
01:16:40.680 both things yes but sex is just cultural
01:16:43.020 um so what what i think is interesting is
01:16:46.120 you're talking about inauguration and how
01:16:48.480 it has to do with the birds um and it just
01:16:52.300 started fake and the birds are fake they're
01:16:54.460 not real um it starts to make me go down
01:16:58.400 this line of thought of like they say that
01:17:00.740 this is a christian nation right um and i
01:17:04.860 know that the roman empire certainly does
01:17:07.680 influence you you alluded to the
01:17:09.720 architecture before um of the west in so
01:17:13.940 many ways if you go to dc everything is is
01:17:16.840 i mean we have a uh and i know this is
01:17:18.780 egyptian but there's a giant obelisk you
01:17:21.680 know in in washington dc uh the pillars on
01:17:24.600 the front of all the buildings just the
01:17:25.800 architecture of the buildings in general
01:17:27.260 but for a a christian nation it seems
01:17:31.080 that the seats of power within america
01:17:34.020 uh don't hold a tremendous amount
01:17:36.860 called robot sex i was laughing at the
01:17:38.680 same thing that's a good shirt that's not
01:17:40.340 a bad shirt i don't know who's gonna wear
01:17:41.600 it on my other show it's a very like heavy
01:17:44.220 we're talking and then we address the
01:17:46.240 audience on nephilim death squad we sort
01:17:48.000 of address them but they're getting to a
01:17:50.020 point where they're so funny where i'm
01:17:51.260 like i'm just glad we have a guest that
01:17:53.140 is like all right these guys but this is
01:17:54.740 what happens when you i enjoy talking to
01:17:57.400 the audience they're always funny as
01:17:58.520 hell on a lot of shows i'm on they're
01:18:00.220 terrible people but when you ignore them
01:18:02.240 uh they just try to get funnier and we've
01:18:04.880 been ignoring them on this show for some
01:18:06.440 time and they're getting funnier they
01:18:08.260 paid us for on our last episode and like
01:18:10.880 if they if you give a super chat i'll
01:18:12.560 bring it up on the screen because you
01:18:14.020 know it's just out of courtesy but they
01:18:16.020 asked one of our last guests a black
01:18:17.920 dude if he could do an entire episode
01:18:19.480 in black scent and i'm like i gotta pull
01:18:21.360 it up i pulled it up i'm like these
01:18:22.920 these people are running the show i
01:18:24.900 don't know what to do with them they
01:18:25.900 need to be in an asylum really and then
01:18:27.560 he did black scent and it was the
01:18:28.920 funniest shit yeah what does 07 mean
01:18:31.900 because people oh it's like people keep
01:18:33.880 randomly commenting it it's like a
01:18:35.720 waving like hello yeah like okay i got
01:18:39.060 it i just see it randomly popping up
01:18:40.720 every once in a while
01:18:41.700 they're animals um so but getting back
01:18:44.560 to this sort of um architecture that
01:18:47.920 you'll find in the seats of power in the
01:18:49.440 west uh oftentimes you would be hard
01:18:52.300 pressed to find uh christian iconography
01:18:56.520 but you can find a lot of roman and
01:19:00.400 greek iconography and yes and no because
01:19:03.400 you even look at um uh the the pantheon in
01:19:07.260 rome um it was originally built as a
01:19:09.540 temple to all gods and eventually becomes
01:19:11.240 a church so what what i think does have
01:19:14.160 you look at um the tomb of hadrian which
01:19:16.280 is now called the castel santangelo so a
01:19:18.540 lot of i think at the same time they've
01:19:20.880 the the christian iconography inherited a
01:19:24.180 lot of this stuff too if that makes sense
01:19:26.060 no it does it makes a tremendous amount
01:19:27.680 of sense we see that throughout history
01:19:29.020 it's like um belief systems melding into
01:19:32.400 other belief systems and it really kind
01:19:34.240 of obscures the history of things it
01:19:36.220 makes it very difficult to trace things
01:19:37.720 back because yes they all sort of bleed
01:19:39.880 into one empire bleeds into another empire
01:19:42.660 uh but it's it's interesting because you
01:19:46.600 know the idea of inauguration having to
01:19:48.300 do with the birds and and the birds i would
01:19:51.000 imagine the reason they're interpreting
01:19:52.460 them is because those are a mechanism by
01:19:55.180 which the gods would give them signs right
01:19:57.980 and so there is a lot of what you would
01:20:02.140 call pagan iconography and pagan tradition
01:20:05.560 um that has bled into this idea of the
01:20:10.280 the separation of church and state is
01:20:12.640 really an idea but even a lot of cultural
01:20:15.940 things too like um like these these
01:20:17.860 comments out of control by the way um
01:20:19.440 yeah like they're even a lot of cultural
01:20:20.940 things like for example right um carrying
01:20:23.380 your wife across the threshold right like
01:20:25.340 this idea of like when you get married you
01:20:26.800 pick her up and kick her into the house
01:20:27.940 and you guys just got married if you
01:20:29.460 actually knew the story behind that it's
01:20:31.420 like kind of rough man so like romulus who's
01:20:33.360 the first king of rome when he founds rome he
01:20:36.380 founds it only with the the men and
01:20:38.420 criminals he could find to to basically build
01:20:40.380 this city so what's the problem they have
01:20:42.580 no women well what if you don't have any
01:20:44.060 women you don't have a next generation so
01:20:45.900 they invite the the neighboring tribe over
01:20:47.840 called the sabines and during dinner they
01:20:50.980 kidnap and rape all the women and this is
01:20:53.040 called the rape of the sabine women so why
01:20:55.660 is a woman carried across the threshold well
01:20:57.300 because they were carried by the rome the
01:20:59.780 sabine sabines were carried by the romans
01:21:01.500 against their will so a lot of cultural
01:21:03.160 things we do are even kind of scary that's
01:21:05.080 so treacherous dude and that's also so
01:21:08.260 and women now are just kind of like oh he's
01:21:10.380 carrying me across the threshold well if
01:21:12.000 you only knew if you only knew oh my god
01:21:15.900 it's so diabolical dude and it's yeah it's
01:21:19.720 wrong on so many levels right like when you
01:21:21.300 break bread with someone that's supposed
01:21:22.620 to kind of be like a peace treaty here yeah
01:21:25.480 that's oh right in in in christianity there's
01:21:29.740 a there's a real heaviness to inviting
01:21:31.720 people into your home and and hosting
01:21:35.160 people and what you do to them is is
01:21:38.060 supposed to be uh you know everything is
01:21:40.820 about respect and and charity and roman
01:21:44.400 well roman homes are interesting too um
01:21:46.600 because a lot of like the roman system you
01:21:50.100 would call it a client system meaning like
01:21:52.360 you know i have money you could become my
01:21:54.020 client i might do some things for you i
01:21:55.300 might give you better political positions
01:21:56.340 whatever it might be so people's houses
01:21:59.000 were often their home so the further you
01:22:01.480 were let into someone's home showed the
01:22:03.960 kind of higher up you are in the client
01:22:05.820 hierarchy so that even even that
01:22:07.420 perspective is of you know how you let
01:22:09.140 people in your home is interesting
01:22:10.160 the the pantheon of the roman gods um it was
01:22:15.600 it essentially an exact mirror of the greek
01:22:19.720 pantheon and and what came first uh did
01:22:22.640 they uh adopt these you know it's like uh
01:22:26.160 zeus's counterpart would be jupiter well
01:22:28.980 greek civilization is older than roman
01:22:30.700 civilization is something you have to
01:22:31.940 consider it's been around a lot longer
01:22:33.440 um and there's quite a few gods that are
01:22:36.820 similar like you know jupiter and zeus or
01:22:38.800 um you know mars and aries and stuff like
01:22:42.140 that but there are some that that don't
01:22:43.400 match as well a lot there's some that are
01:22:46.180 borrowed from greek mythology and there's
01:22:48.360 some that are just created by the romans it's
01:22:50.100 it's roman religion is very interesting because
01:22:52.080 it's like the combination of a lot of
01:22:53.680 different things it's like a kind of
01:22:54.980 kaleidoscope religion and they have some
01:22:58.200 things uniquely theirs but they borrow a lot
01:23:00.000 of stuff from a lot of other cultures
01:23:01.500 um the kind of heyday of athens is is is
01:23:06.020 during the um like mid republic era um but
01:23:09.640 for the most part by the time rome becomes
01:23:11.520 an empire greece um has kind of fallen to
01:23:14.660 alexander the great and then the romans
01:23:16.100 just conquer um the remaining empire of
01:23:19.020 alexander you know gradually over time
01:23:20.880 what do you think are some things that um
01:23:25.040 people really get wrong because we've
01:23:26.840 touched on that a lot and and with
01:23:28.980 something as popular as the idea of the
01:23:30.720 roman empire we said that it entered
01:23:32.160 sort of meme culture i imagine that there
01:23:34.940 is a lot that we're getting wrong we even
01:23:37.040 said so many of us don't actually know
01:23:38.980 thumbs up balance down everybody has it
01:23:40.740 backwards um thumbs up meant to kill
01:23:42.820 him thumbs down meant to meant not to
01:23:44.440 kill him oh really yes interesting how do we
01:23:47.500 get that one give everyone a thumbs down
01:23:49.720 because that's what you want yeah i don't
01:23:51.920 want you to die homie that is i just feel
01:23:55.880 like there's uh we we do a thing with
01:23:58.720 history it's like a game of telephone
01:24:00.200 and you know history is written by the
01:24:03.200 winner and in many cases and there are
01:24:05.180 obviously texts and things that you can
01:24:06.560 recover that'll kind of shed some light
01:24:08.460 on the on the actual nature of the
01:24:09.840 situation but i think that the west in
01:24:13.200 2024 is especially unique in our game of
01:24:15.680 telephone in that we are willing to talk
01:24:18.740 about a topic we arguably have more as
01:24:22.380 individuals uh more ability to talk about
01:24:25.480 these things thank you for the uh financial
01:24:27.160 support greatly appreciated the nether
01:24:28.520 night uh two dollar tier for life um but in a
01:24:33.800 time where we have more reach uh in our
01:24:38.260 messaging you know platforms like this
01:24:39.980 there's a million podcasts out there
01:24:41.700 everybody has a soapbox to preach from but i
01:24:45.080 also feel like in in conjunction with that
01:24:47.480 we are less likely to do our research and i
01:24:51.260 think that's got something to do with the
01:24:52.760 speed with which our our attention shifts you
01:24:55.780 know it's like everything is is very quick
01:24:58.120 everything is very shallow we're we're on
01:24:59.760 from one topic to the next and i feel like
01:25:01.800 now more so than ever maybe a lot of us are
01:25:05.260 doing uh the work of obfuscating a topic
01:25:08.580 like the the roman empire and i feel like we're
01:25:10.740 getting things we're getting things more
01:25:13.760 wrong and with a louder uh microphone than
01:25:18.580 probably ever before yeah and uh thank you to to
01:25:22.500 amen rat by the way that says he gives this
01:25:24.140 interview two thumbs down that's what we're
01:25:25.640 trying to get me we don't want we don't want to
01:25:27.060 die well if you want to look at you run like a
01:25:30.800 social media like a advertised not advertising
01:25:33.880 but like they're gonna build your brain this guy's
01:25:35.620 all about thumbs down it's incredible man
01:25:37.220 well there you go man confusing message
01:25:39.560 thumbs down it's what you want you don't
01:25:41.300 want to have thumbs up thumbs up means they
01:25:42.680 can kill you um but the the actual biggest
01:25:46.900 thing people get wrong and there's going to
01:25:48.320 be a lot of historians that hate me from this
01:25:49.840 um because people will debate the fall year of
01:25:53.680 the roman empire forever i hear a dog um my dog is
01:25:58.020 the whole 476 fall of the the western roman
01:26:00.460 empire and you have to kind of understand the
01:26:03.100 last hundred years of rome is basically
01:26:05.400 barbarian generals just running like
01:26:08.500 ineffective or child emperors so after 410
01:26:12.120 after the sack of rome by by all the rick your
01:26:15.100 final emperor in 476 is a child named romulus
01:26:18.260 augustus and they actually give him a pension and
01:26:20.700 retire him and um oh the dog said thumbs down
01:26:24.360 great we love that um they actually give him a
01:26:27.420 pension and retire him so rome doesn't fall it
01:26:30.720 literally ends because they say okay no more
01:26:33.980 emperors the king is in charge now so what ends up
01:26:35.940 happening is the eastern roman empire this guy
01:26:39.240 named justinian famous for the justinian law code
01:26:41.480 and his general belisarius try to unite rome well how do you do
01:26:46.060 that but you burn it down right like you bring in a military and try and destroy
01:26:49.140 the thing and be like hey i ruled the thing again
01:26:50.680 so that ends up really what ends up happening is justinian destroys the thing
01:26:56.220 in order to reunite it well there's not as much literacy in the west at this
01:27:00.720 point so whose history you're going to be reading you're going to be reading the
01:27:02.880 east history and they don't want to make justinian look bad so oh you know it
01:27:06.800 fell in 476 because the barbarians you know just burned the whole thing down
01:27:10.740 it really had morphed into a series of of self-sustaining barbarian kingdoms and a
01:27:16.400 lot of former romans were actually working with barbarians to kind of build this
01:27:20.360 new economy
01:27:20.940 hmm that's not something that you you hear very often when you see um we talked about
01:27:29.760 gladiator before and this is something that i've kind of been wanting to ask and it it's
01:27:35.700 probably a shallow question but it's one of my favorite films uh i just re-watched it
01:27:40.020 it's a really good film man like i hate i love 300 but it's not historically accurate
01:27:43.680 ah well that i figured and that is a great movie i actually watched that with my son recently
01:27:48.860 our alexander commenter will love that one of the most accurate historical films out there is
01:27:53.760 oliver stone's alexander but anyway continue oh uh is that the one with um
01:27:57.740 colin ferrell yeah and that was accurate it's it's pretty good like there are some things they
01:28:01.940 alter but it's for the most part it it honors the story hollywood always embellishes it's you know
01:28:06.800 for entertainment purposes but when it comes to gladiator which i would say out of the ones that
01:28:11.000 we just mentioned i probably my favorite and i am worried about what they're going to do with
01:28:15.960 the new one um what i didn't like about it one of the things that i got into i made a tweet about it
01:28:20.600 was that the the ambiance in gladiator the film it was uh contributed to by this original score
01:28:29.540 and that original score that musical piece uh made you feel like you were immersed in the time era
01:28:36.140 i hate that too that they went with kind of like a a different album for the new one
01:28:40.100 they went with uh jay-z and kanye west um watch the throne album yeah and there i think it was no
01:28:47.440 church in the wild was the song in the preview and look it's it's a preview so maybe maybe they're not
01:28:52.180 going to utilize that but i think that so much of i heard they even put smoke detector chirps
01:28:58.260 inside no that's not true i don't think they did that i don't think that's true that's that's
01:29:02.440 actually misinformation um but i just worry that they're going to you said it's like training day
01:29:07.960 right like you're worried that they're going to go in that direction i just the the best films
01:29:12.160 oftentimes the best films have their own musical score so i'm just confused as to why you would
01:29:16.440 do this sort of did you hear that uh why you would do that sort of a thing and and and pull from modern
01:29:22.640 day music because the idea is to suspend your disbelief and be immersed in the story and i don't want
01:29:29.020 any kind of like cultural things that i can relate to like you know this jay-z song uh but that being
01:29:35.300 said when it comes to the original film gladiator what do you what did they get wrong in that film
01:29:41.200 um well the one of the bigger things is like how the forum would have actually looked um you could
01:29:45.900 if you guys look it up on on youtube you can kind of see different or on x or this is a different
01:29:50.460 place you can see what they actually would have looked like but they kind of mixed up some time
01:29:53.920 periods and i think that's what you see in a lot of these movies is kind of just time periods you
01:29:57.940 know kind of slipping on the track um so so that's a big one is is the forum would have looked
01:30:02.720 different um he um commodus likely didn't fight maximus in the um though he is as i saw strangled
01:30:12.580 by a wrestler named maximus later on that's where they probably get the name from um that likely
01:30:17.660 doesn't happen um commodus doesn't kill um marcus aurelius so that's you know he didn't hug him to
01:30:26.560 death no he and like aurelius is like most of his career fighting a northern tribe called the
01:30:30.880 macromani so that that is very realistic but there's and there's a number of like kind of
01:30:36.040 small minutiae points you could go to on this but it it's a good movie overall um the new one i haven't
01:30:41.380 seen um is it out it may be i don't know um i'm just kind of like like they have there's some
01:30:47.580 historical points i've already kind of taken you know a problem with like the first being
01:30:53.800 the emperor they try to portray is caracalla and um caracalla um wouldn't have been this blonde
01:31:02.260 haired blue-eyed guy with silver teeth or whatever the hell they do to him um he he was semitic so he
01:31:07.420 was actually um would have been born in the area of like phoenicia or northern africa so he would
01:31:13.120 have been much much darker skinned um not quite black but much much darker skinned and and a different
01:31:18.480 look um and he was also a military commander the name caracalla actually comes from the famous cloak
01:31:23.740 he used to wear all the time um and they try to make him look like this like pretty boy um spoiled
01:31:30.300 guy when he probably was was a brutal dude um in actuality so i think that portrayal is a little weird
01:31:36.560 um i they try to portray denzel denzel washington as macrinus um once again i haven't seen the movie so
01:31:44.040 i don't know how accurate they are this but macrinus would have been the praetorian prefect
01:31:48.600 under um caracalla and is actually part of the group of people that ended up killing um caracalla
01:31:55.000 now he doesn't precede caracalla immediately after that but macrinus will eventually become emperor for
01:31:59.540 about nine months okay so so what you're saying is on that front that's not it seems like they could
01:32:06.960 be going in the correct direction yeah it's it's not out of the out of the the realm of possibility
01:32:10.680 but i haven't seen the new movie enough to kind of have a basis to compare it do you have any
01:32:14.800 interest in seeing it are you gonna see it no believe it or not the same thing you said about
01:32:18.700 the soundtrack that actually really turned me off because i'm like oh man like you know what i mean
01:32:23.240 like you see one of those movies and you want it to feel epic yeah and if you take away the soundtrack
01:32:27.700 like that takes away the epic you know what i mean like star wars was great because john
01:32:31.360 williams did the soundtrack you know yes yes exactly uh lord of the rings was great because of the
01:32:35.820 so many of these i mean gladiator was fantastic because of the soundtrack is a scene at the end
01:32:41.860 where they are uh carrying his body as he is drifting away into death and he's having visions of moving
01:32:50.200 through that wheat field going to see his family and when he passes away and uh and everyone gathers
01:32:57.420 around him to lift him up it then transitions into uh a scene with the man the black guy who basically
01:33:04.280 became his best friend you know through hell uh and he is burying the clay figurines of maximus's
01:33:12.240 family and saying you know one day we will meet again not now but one day and their use of music
01:33:18.100 and and the transition from one song i think it was like called the wheat uh to another song i forget
01:33:24.160 what the what the name of that song was but it was indicative of like there was a sadness and then
01:33:28.660 there was this homage to his life with this power soundtrack and then it rolled back into the
01:33:33.860 sadness but it was a little bit more uplifting with his breath it was a masterful use of it it
01:33:38.260 sticks the movie culturally too to change the soundtrack you know what i mean like if you you
01:33:42.240 can watch a lot of great movies that were made from the 60s till now like um you know like the
01:33:47.900 original caesar movie and stuff like that because the soundtrack it's not stuck in any era like you
01:33:53.020 watch this movie 10 years from now and it's it's a movie that shouldn't be dated is now going to be
01:33:57.040 dated yes exactly that's the problem black annie is what yeah or uh um i do want to ask you one
01:34:04.460 more question and uh well one of the comments first asked if uh if roman empire had red lobster
01:34:09.500 well and soon no one will have red lobster that's right anyway that's right shrimping they were
01:34:14.120 that's what happens i think that would in very many ways endless shrimping is what uh destroyed the
01:34:18.780 roman empire but um i was told we had unlimited shrimp i don't understand um the last one i want
01:34:27.820 to ask you and and uh top i don't know if you have any questions after this but when it comes to
01:34:32.540 maximus himself i know it's like all of a sudden this is about the film but i love the film and i just
01:34:37.320 wanted to get your thoughts on like his character as a historical figure i i don't know really what they
01:34:45.580 would have based him on honestly so i don't know like he's kind of probably a kaleidoscope of
01:34:49.780 different characters they put together um because that would be typical for you know people in the
01:34:56.020 military and like other countries and things to serve in it or maybe if you went into debt in rome
01:34:59.520 you could serve as a as a gladiator um but honestly he just seems like a combination of a lot of different
01:35:05.480 people so i i don't know you know what to say he's based on interesting um you know what i mean like
01:35:11.440 there's different movies you can look at i'm trying to think of one recently i saw where they
01:35:14.380 actually based somebody on two characters but anyway go ahead no but i i that's interesting
01:35:19.600 because you would look at that film and you would imagine uh without having done any research that
01:35:25.220 this was an impactful historical figure and really the idea that he's an amalgamation of you know
01:35:31.700 probably the experiences of of a lot of people and then embellished oh you know what movie it was
01:35:37.580 um the new um gosh the new um oppenheimer movie there was a few characters in that movie that
01:35:45.180 were like amalgamations of what people they didn't know what to do with what to explain so
01:35:48.820 like it is liberty that they often take in hollywood okay it's almost a little bit sad
01:35:53.800 yeah that maximus wasn't wasn't really a dude damn that's a somber note to leave this just messed up
01:36:00.980 this whole day i'm sorry for me dude just ruined it unbelievable um top do you have anything else or
01:36:07.280 is this a good place to land it i think it's a good place to land it man um thank you for coming
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01:37:02.940 indifferent on it they either love it or hate it i think there's no middle ground it's it's uh it's
01:37:07.900 the muscles under the suit that make you look like a dude who could have choked out uh
01:37:12.900 you could have been the wrestler that choked out the roman emperor um guys uh don't forget this
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01:39:00.720 tarot game the greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room
01:39:07.160 it is constantly telling us what to believe is real if you can persuade you that what they see with
01:39:14.400 their eyes is what there is to see because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays
01:39:22.300 the bigger picture of what's happening and they have
01:39:30.720 what do they believe so for you so the the other points are ever getting to be
01:39:34.620 the more tho right it's beeningen of and overtime because it makes that
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