Nephilim Death Squad - 057： The Shroud of Turin w⧸ Cult of Conspiracy

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00:00:30.000 Hello?

00:00:44.100 Come on out of there, whoever you are.

00:00:50.480 They were giving them acid.

00:00:52.540 They were giving them LSD.

00:00:54.060 So it was MKUltra, and then they did it on a world stage

00:00:58.280 with the hippie movement.

00:01:00.000 I'm sorry, lady.

00:01:01.500 I need the house.

00:01:07.960 It's not surprising that the information age

00:01:12.980 is characterized by a lot of knowledge,

00:01:17.220 but not wisdom.

00:01:19.140 The only people that should be transphobic are unattended minors.

00:01:30.760 Yeah, children.

00:01:31.760 You fucking training retard.

00:01:33.660 Here we go.

00:01:33.940 How to make espresso.

00:01:35.020 And, you know, it's going to be great coffee.

00:01:38.940 And we dream.

00:01:41.980 Each of us dying slowly.

00:01:44.620 The prison of our minds.

00:01:48.880 We sit in the sun.

00:01:51.680 In days.

00:01:53.140 We sleep.

00:01:53.900 Dick Cheney, Joe Biden, J6, Secret Service, assassination attempt on Trump.

00:02:00.420 And she's involved with all of that somehow?

00:02:03.320 She's certainly not in that position because she's good at her fucking job.

00:02:06.700 We were taught that.

00:02:21.520 I was taught that.

00:02:22.160 We were taught that growing up that they were upset about a 2% T-tax,

00:02:24.700 and they rioted and whatever.

00:02:26.300 So what King George did, he sent in a standing army at peacetime.

00:02:30.440 They were militarized there.

00:02:37.100 How are you able to be up on an altar guiding people

00:02:42.400 when you within yourself don't even know where you stand?

00:02:49.060 There's only a certain amount of years that humans will be subservient to a system

00:02:55.760 before they all start to snap.

00:03:00.200 What do you think about the topic of adrenochrome being this, like,

00:03:07.400 secular description of that exactly, of, like, this royal jelly?

00:03:16.600 And I said, well, how do you know you're trans?

00:03:18.640 He goes, no, you don't get it.

00:03:19.840 And I thought, is trans just rainbow gob?

00:03:22.680 In Texas recently, they had banned abortion.

00:03:32.020 The women were upset.

00:03:33.400 Then a few weeks later, there was a school shooting,

00:03:36.380 and the women were upset again.

00:03:38.080 And I was like, well, are we killing kids or not, bitch?

00:03:40.980 Get away!

00:03:42.520 What's going on in my house?

00:03:44.560 You're saying Joe Rogan likes to squirt?

00:03:56.600 You got so roughly fucked by a giant black cock

00:03:59.740 that your anus literally fell out.

00:04:01.780 The only food we're getting involved here is the titty milk.

00:04:04.980 That's it.

00:04:05.460 The kingdom of God.

00:04:07.760 The kingdom of heaven.

00:04:09.740 Take that step.

00:04:11.440 Bless your heart.

00:04:12.460 Take that step.

00:04:14.260 And when I stand on the mountain and I say, do it, it gets done.

00:04:17.740 If it don't get done, then I'll move on it.

00:04:20.080 That's not God.

00:04:30.760 You've created a Frankenbaby out of, you know,

00:04:33.260 a bunch of different ideas that all contradict each other.

00:04:36.040 And, you know, none of them are very well thought out,

00:04:38.420 but it's very much like a child's way of throwing a tantrum

00:04:41.500 and a bit of a fix.

00:04:43.320 There's no understating the correlation between the increase in technology

00:04:47.220 and the decrease in spirituality.

00:04:48.800 We've, like, exponentially went up in technology

00:04:51.400 and people are just completely spiritually retarded.

00:04:54.600 We are being hypnotized by people like this.

00:05:20.720 Newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

00:05:27.060 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:05:35.160 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely true.

00:05:41.400 Oh, yeah, dude.

00:05:42.600 There's some Nephilim shit.

00:05:43.780 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen,

00:06:11.660 to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.

00:06:15.440 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a.

00:06:17.960 The Raven.

00:06:18.900 That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.

00:06:22.960 And today we are joined by two guests in Jonathan and Jacob of the Cult of Conspiracy podcast.

00:06:29.880 We have a pretty interesting topic that we're going to get into today.

00:06:32.820 But before we do all that, gentlemen, can you please, let's start with Jonathan.

00:06:36.940 Introduce yourselves a little bit to the people who may not know you and let them know where it is they can find your work and what it is you focus on.

00:06:44.060 All right.

00:06:44.800 So I'm Jonathan.

00:06:45.900 The name of our podcast is The Cult of Conspiracy.

00:06:48.160 We have been going at it for about four years, a little bit over four years now, and we are just constantly hammering on not only modern day, you know, kind of conspiracies, but, you know, the old ones that we all know and that we love and stuff like that.

00:07:04.860 And maybe maybe old ones that you've never even heard of.

00:07:07.940 And so we kind of are very stretched across the board as far as everything that we'll cover.

00:07:12.320 We do get into a lot of conspiracies, obviously, but then there's also like spiritual assets that are also brought in.

00:07:19.500 And that's really why we decided to come with this topic here, because Jacob and I are very different.

00:07:27.820 We are.

00:07:28.460 That's my best friend.

00:07:29.360 My ride or die.

00:07:30.300 I never you know, if there's a fucking Armageddon like that's the guy I'm calling.

00:07:34.860 I wish I felt the same about my I knew it.

00:07:37.280 I knew it was coming.

00:07:38.180 You terrible piece of shit.

00:07:39.560 Unbelievable.

00:07:39.920 But but that being said, we have very different philosophies about how we look at faith and just spirituality in general.

00:07:47.080 I come from more of what you might call the woo woo and Jacob on the other end, Christian.

00:07:53.380 So this topic right here was very fun for us to put together back whenever we first put it together, because he's looking at it from that Christian mindset.

00:08:01.700 And I look at it from the the spiritual philosopher, I guess, if you will.

00:08:07.320 And so, yeah, I think that's what makes the show, you know, tick is that it's not necessarily an echo chamber.

00:08:13.600 It's two different opinions and people coming together.

00:08:15.720 And, you know, we usually always end up with the same opinion, though.

00:08:20.660 Come and get it from two different areas.

00:08:23.480 Either the same opinion or at least we can appreciate the opposite vantage point from a different perspective.

00:08:29.120 Which and that's the thing.

00:08:30.480 So Jonathan being more of the spiritual person, he is a licensed hypnotherapist who specializes in past life regressions and speaking to the higher self.

00:08:38.240 Meanwhile, I am a Marine Corps infantry veteran.

00:08:40.960 I am a Christian and I'm a conspiracy head.

00:08:43.140 So we come from very different places when we approach any type of conspiracy, whether that be JFK assassination, the 9-11 debacle, or if we're going all the way back to the Sumerian tablets and to the ancient texts and everything in between.

00:08:57.220 So I look at things from a very, quote unquote, logical, analytical standpoint.

00:09:01.740 Jonathan looks at things from a very esoteric and third eye vantage point.

00:09:06.100 And so a lot of times we clash.

00:09:08.160 We don't agree on a lot of things.

00:09:10.060 That's kind of an inherent property of this.

00:09:12.640 But the back and forth itself is kind of what makes this show what it is.

00:09:16.680 I got hooked up with Jonathan about six months after the Cult of Conspiracy had launched.

00:09:21.200 And it's pretty much just been all gas, no brakes ever since.

00:09:25.140 You know, one thing led to another.

00:09:26.500 And we're rapidly approaching coming up on 600 episodes released.

00:09:30.020 It's just it's been a wild ride, bro.

00:09:33.280 Interesting.

00:09:33.680 I'm kind of stuck on.

00:09:35.520 You're a practicing hypnotherapist right now.

00:09:38.720 And what else?

00:09:40.480 Yeah, it's it's it's hypnotherapy, but it's past life regressions.

00:09:45.340 And so if anybody's ever heard of Dolores Cannon, she developed this this thing called QHHT, which stands for quantum healing hypnosis therapy.

00:09:53.520 And it guides people to a past life through hypnosis.

00:09:57.260 And then afterward, you know, typically people will give me some questions that they would like me to ask their higher self after the past life.

00:10:08.300 And those questions.

00:10:10.260 I mean, you're you're talking about questions that people would want to ask the universe, ask God, ask spirit guides or whatever.

00:10:16.820 And so obviously it's unthinkable.

00:10:20.620 It's unknowable information that that you're searching for.

00:10:24.000 And what's great about it is, is that you're you're getting those answers, but they're coming out of your mouth.

00:10:30.800 So you can call it channeling.

00:10:32.500 You can call it, you know, just conversations with your higher self or your highest self or whatever the highest ascended version of you or whatever is.

00:10:40.620 But those answers are coming through.

00:10:42.680 And as a matter of fact, I actually hypnotized Jacob about a year ago.

00:10:46.280 Somebody who doesn't even believe in reincarnation outside of one person and doesn't believe in past lives.

00:10:53.380 And yet I was able to hypnotize him.

00:10:55.140 He had a whole life as a Muslim, by the way.

00:10:57.700 And all the questions that he had asked.

00:11:00.860 I can see that.

00:11:02.900 Can you see him in a cave?

00:11:05.840 Yeah, I can't tell if you can see what's behind me, but I do boo hurt.

00:11:08.660 I do armored combat.

00:11:09.940 Right.

00:11:10.100 So like cage fighting with steel and swords and shit.

00:11:12.840 That's what I.

00:11:13.660 Yeah.

00:11:14.360 Wait, wait, wait.

00:11:15.100 This is crazy.

00:11:15.800 This is what I'm saying.

00:11:18.160 We're not talking about the shroud of.

00:11:21.140 Right.

00:11:22.420 We're not.

00:11:23.120 We're not.

00:11:23.620 This is what I do.

00:11:24.580 Like, I'm actually the team captain of my local team.

00:11:26.820 All right.

00:11:27.080 So we beat the hell out of each other wearing 80 pounds of steel armor.

00:11:29.780 We go completely ham.

00:11:30.880 It's a, it's a blast.

00:11:31.980 The rich doing a good time, but, but, and me being a Christian who does these things, all of that.

00:11:37.280 Jonathan hypnotized me.

00:11:38.860 And we have been teasing our cult members as we call our listeners, our cult members for a long time saying, fine, I'll finally do it.

00:11:44.720 I'll get hypnotized.

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00:12:17.000 I'm going to tell you right now.

00:12:18.340 I don't believe in reincarnation.

00:12:20.080 I don't believe in past lives.

00:12:21.360 But I also cannot cleanly describe logically what that was.

00:12:28.360 Okay.

00:12:28.760 I lived an entire life as a Muslim dude who was fighting alongside the Christians during the Crusades.

00:12:35.040 Okay.

00:12:35.520 The entire life and all of this.

00:12:37.080 Now, could that.

00:12:37.880 In the hypnosis?

00:12:39.420 Yes.

00:12:39.620 In the hypnosis.

00:12:40.820 So, there was a time dilation issue, right?

00:12:42.680 Because you would have had a lot of experiences in a relatively short amount of time.

00:12:46.360 There's a story with Ari Shafir.

00:12:47.580 Ari Shafir takes – he's a stand-up comedian.

00:12:49.880 He takes –

00:12:50.900 I love Ari Shafir, dude.

00:12:52.120 What's the – I've smoked it before.

00:12:55.180 Salvia.

00:12:55.540 He takes Salvia and he ends up going on this trip where he has an entire life underwater.

00:12:59.700 He's got a family.

00:13:00.540 He's got a job.

00:13:01.560 He lives under the ocean somehow.

00:13:04.160 And it was so real that when he came out of this experience, there was actually like a longing for this family that he had left.

00:13:11.920 That's how real this experience was.

00:13:13.340 And I don't know what to do with that information.

00:13:15.580 When I hear ideas about reincarnation, I'm also a Christian.

00:13:19.280 But I believe that there – we talked to somebody one time, or maybe it was I who talked to him, who said that he had an entity that was a hitchhiker essentially.

00:13:27.520 And he had a relationship with this entity.

00:13:29.060 And this thing would loose off of his energy.

00:13:30.860 And who knows if this story is real or not.

00:13:32.320 But one of the things that I found interesting that he said was that there is a karmic system and there is a reincarnation cycle.

00:13:39.340 But it was not created by God.

00:13:41.080 If it was created by God, it would be perfect.

00:13:42.480 It was created by angels.

00:13:44.580 God commissioned them to create it, allegedly.

00:13:46.360 This is all just something secondhand that he has from this entity.

00:13:49.260 Who knows if it's even real.

00:13:50.680 But that because it's not created by God and it's not perfect, it's kind of backed up and screwed up in a lot of ways.

00:13:57.180 Over time and over generations, it has become essentially a mess.

00:14:01.500 And I just thought that was fascinating because there are a lot of instances like what you're describing where like I just don't know where to place it, man.

00:14:07.740 I don't know what to do with a little boy who says this is the house that I lived in.

00:14:10.880 This is the family that I had.

00:14:11.920 We had a dog.

00:14:12.660 I died in the ocean.

00:14:13.680 And then they all said they go to his house and they find out, well, yeah, there was a little boy that passed away here.

00:14:18.160 Let me ask a question to Jonathan.

00:14:19.820 What is hypnosis?

00:14:21.080 And I don't mean to cut you off in the story, but like, no, no, no.

00:14:23.340 Are you, are you, you're not just putting somebody to sleep, but it's, are you transporting them to another dimension, another realm where they are living this?

00:14:31.000 What is hypnosis?

00:14:31.700 I would ask you the same question, but referring to a dream.

00:14:35.700 What happens whenever you dream at night?

00:14:37.700 Are you going to another realm?

00:14:39.200 Are you going to another world?

00:14:40.580 I mean, this is all up for conjecture.

00:14:42.360 Are you, are you traversing the, the parallel realities that we're living in?

00:14:47.480 There's no way of really proving it.

00:14:49.180 So I don't know exactly what's going on.

00:14:51.800 However, I will say that Dolores Cannon, she is very famous or she was very famous.

00:14:56.620 She passed away in 2014, I believe, but she was very famous for having these crazy, like insane stories within past life regressions.

00:15:06.400 So much so that she hypnotized a person and she went back to, well, I don't know if you can even say that she went back.

00:15:15.260 She was basically talking to Nostradamus and was able to get all the information from Nostradamus and essentially fill in the gaps that were left open for interpretation of all of Nostradamus' prophecies.

00:15:27.880 And so this kind of crazy shit happens all the time.

00:15:31.280 And what's even crazier about that is that not only was she able to hypnotize that person to talk to Nostradamus, that person ended up having to move out of state.

00:15:40.500 So she wasn't able to get hypnotized by Dolores anymore.

00:15:42.700 But what she said was during that last hypnosis with this person who was essentially Nostradamus, I guess you could say, is that the next person you hypnotize, you will be able to receive information from me.

00:15:56.020 And sure as hell, that's what happened.

00:15:59.160 The next person that she hypnotized didn't tell this story to, didn't relay that information to, was able to get information from Nostradamus to continue on filling in all of the intricacies and all the interpretations that were lost and filled them in and created a whole book to be able to better understand Nostradamus' prophecy.

00:16:19.060 So call that what you want, but I believe, and also another thing that Nostradamus was saying in this hypnosis was that you're not time traveling.

00:16:31.240 You're talking to me in real time.

00:16:33.420 I'm here.

00:16:34.260 There is no such thing as past.

00:16:35.760 There is no such thing as the future.

00:16:37.080 The only thing that is real is the present moment.

00:16:39.820 And so everything, whenever you think about the past, it's just a memory.

00:16:42.980 Whenever you think about the future, it's just imagining or dreaming what it could be.

00:16:47.360 There actually is no proof that the future or the past actually exists in our minds.

00:16:53.560 In our minds.

00:16:54.660 That would begin to, I'm sorry to cut you off, but that would begin to beg the question of like, was there a time when Nostradamus was, you know, pondering and all of a sudden this face kind of peaks through a veil.

00:17:04.520 We were talking to Juan Ayala recently, and one of the things he talked about was these ascended masters, right?

00:17:10.660 Those alchemists who reached their magnum opus, basically transcending this reality.

00:17:15.240 But popping up back again through history, different characters will tell stories about, yeah, suddenly I was in this moment in my lab.

00:17:24.180 I was working on this creation.

00:17:25.460 I was pondering this equation or question or philosophical quandary.

00:17:29.440 And then all of a sudden, somebody pops through the veil and says, hey, you're on the right track.

00:17:34.120 Keep it going.

00:17:34.700 And then pops back through.

00:17:35.720 And the way they were described or the name that was given was somebody who hasn't been seen in, you know, centuries.

00:17:43.040 But the last known writings about them were that they were an alchemist trying to, you know, do the great works.

00:17:48.400 And so I just wonder, you know, when it comes to that, it's like, is there a time?

00:17:51.940 I understand this idea that time is not the present moment.

00:17:56.120 Yeah, it's not linear, right?

00:17:57.180 They often say it's like a flat disk.

00:17:59.380 But this idea that somewhere on that flat disk, Nostradamus was hanging out and then all of a sudden had some chick pop through and ask him a couple of questions.

00:18:08.740 Well, and on top of that, going back to what you were saying about the angel or whatever that created this kind of like reincarnation, possibly like time loop or whatever.

00:18:19.000 This is actually something that the Buddhists talk about.

00:18:21.520 They talk about ascending beyond that and the idea that you can get out of this reincarnation cycle, which is known as samsara.

00:18:29.600 And that samsara is that continuous loop.

00:18:32.680 You die, you come back.

00:18:33.760 You die, you come back.

00:18:34.480 They're trying to get away from that and ascend into heaven or whatever it is.

00:18:38.740 And so, yeah, this is something that, you know, it's I mean, it might sound crazy.

00:18:43.540 Who's to know, dude?

00:18:44.400 I mean, it's all speculation until we get there.

00:18:46.340 I mean, let's want to take it on faith.

00:18:47.780 I don't think there's something wrong with taking it on faith either, I think.

00:18:50.540 Let me let me ask you this, because I have I've had this theory.

00:18:52.820 I don't know.

00:18:53.020 Are you guys also into politics, sort of?

00:18:55.280 I literally my YouTube channel drops a lot of geopolitical news stuff.

00:18:59.660 So, yeah, a little bit.

00:19:00.820 OK, so shit, I kind of like lost my train of thought there.

00:19:06.300 No, no, no.

00:19:06.660 All right.

00:19:07.080 So with politics, I look around and I look at the people.

00:19:10.780 And when you're looking at this left right dynamic, you're looking at people almost on

00:19:14.560 both sides as well.

00:19:15.280 But like like kind of there's like it's not the extremes, but it's a corner of it where

00:19:19.220 they are clearly NPC being programmed to do this or do that.

00:19:23.620 Yeah.

00:19:24.040 OK, these people, do they have a soul is what I'm questioning.

00:19:29.600 Like if we are in this reincarnation loop, because I'm not I'm a Christian, but I think

00:19:34.900 that there is something to that.

00:19:36.800 I think that there is something to this loop.

00:19:38.780 It comes up too many times.

00:19:40.500 Can I piggyback off of that real quick?

00:19:42.200 Just so I think you you're having the same thought that I am, which comes from, I believe,

00:19:46.080 the same character who shared that karmic, you know, creation idea with us.

00:19:51.780 And one of the other things he said was that there will come a time and, you know, this

00:19:56.580 is just the ramblings of a dude who admittedly would he would say he's a crazy dude.

00:20:01.620 You know, he's really there as far as his his facilities, you know, or his faculties,

00:20:06.360 rather, he seems sound.

00:20:07.880 But this is just the story that he told us.

00:20:09.560 And so one of the things he said was that this entity who's been around since before the

00:20:14.340 time of Jesus says like, yeah, reincarnation is real.

00:20:18.780 But there is going to come a time where already there's a disproportionate amount of souls

00:20:23.560 to flesh and that there will come a time when the last soul is born.

00:20:28.500 And what he thinks is when that time comes, it is when we're really going to see sort of,

00:20:33.660 you know, the closing of an age, you know, some something apocalyptic in nature.

00:20:38.000 But that idea that there's not enough soul to match the amount of flesh that's being produced

00:20:42.840 is kind of falls into the NPC thing.

00:20:45.340 So why they're like, start killing all the babies like, yeah.

00:20:48.380 Yeah, we don't have any more souls.

00:20:49.680 There's levels and levels of why they started killing all the babies, not just Planned Parenthood.

00:20:54.040 You can go all the way back to the Roman society.

00:20:56.080 They had a certain plant that was so popular in use for abortions that they actually put

00:21:01.480 it on the back of their fucking coins.

00:21:03.360 By the way, I'm a Christian that cusses a lot, y'all.

00:21:05.540 Yeah, I'm not the type that looks, acts, or sounds like one, okay?

00:21:10.200 My walk with God is my walk with God.

00:21:11.980 Fuck off.

00:21:12.440 You know what I mean?

00:21:12.780 But anyway, that being said, with the reincarnation conversation, I don't know what to make of

00:21:18.280 it, okay?

00:21:18.780 Now, yes, I may not personally believe in it.

00:21:21.140 However, I would be out of my mind to dismiss all of the near-death experiences of profound

00:21:27.640 things that they come and wake up from.

00:21:29.480 They were pronounced dead for X amount of time and they saw something.

00:21:32.000 Or these children that, as soon as they're able to speak, have this vast knowledge about

00:21:36.260 how to fly an airplane or some shit and have never stepped foot in a cockpit before.

00:21:40.660 I can't neatly tie that in.

00:21:43.060 What I am willing to acknowledge is that there's way more at play here than what my human brain

00:21:47.620 can intake.

00:21:48.960 And I'm okay with that.

00:21:50.280 I see the Bible as a source, not an all-encompassing book start to finish of everything that ever

00:21:55.340 will be, was, or has been.

00:21:56.900 I see our Bible as our manna.

00:21:58.840 It is our portion.

00:21:59.620 It is not too little or too much for us.

00:22:02.080 It's exactly what we needed to hear for what we need to know.

00:22:05.300 With that being said, the past life regression that Jonathan put me through, I don't know

00:22:09.800 what to make of it.

00:22:10.560 I can tell you that the closest thing I can make to it is think of a mushroom-induced trip

00:22:16.060 with no mushrooms or outside sources or inhibitors whatsoever.

00:22:20.100 You actually have a mushroom-induced.

00:22:22.180 Yeah.

00:22:22.620 But as far as having a trippy experience that is real, you smell the smells, you feel the

00:22:27.160 feels, you see the things.

00:22:28.380 All of that is as real to you as what you're seeing before your eyes right now, but then

00:22:32.940 you wake up from it.

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00:23:01.180 Now, I don't know what to call it.

00:23:05.920 Is that, is Jonathan putting you into a dream state, and that's what happens when your imagination

00:23:09.880 just goes off the leash and just meanders, and this is what comes up?

00:23:13.260 Was there a kernel of truth to that?

00:23:14.860 That somewhere deep within my recessive DNA came out?

00:23:18.320 Did Jonathan dose you?

00:23:19.260 No, I can promise you I was sober.

00:23:21.540 That's the thing.

00:23:22.100 Jonathan is-

00:23:22.400 Next time, let him dose you.

00:23:24.020 I thought about it.

00:23:24.420 We'll see what happens.

00:23:25.220 I thought about next time, maybe taking a little DMT, see what happens.

00:23:28.160 But I'm going to be honest, man.

00:23:29.520 I want these experiences to be profound and real, and I don't want to be able to chalk

00:23:34.020 it up to, oh, well, that's just because I was high.

00:23:35.780 Oh, that's just because-

00:23:36.620 No, I want to be able to say for sure, this was Jacob experiencing this for Jacob.

00:23:40.600 And I got to say, it's profound.

00:23:43.960 Well, and look, they've also gotten into, like, if you look at some of the laws of thermodynamics,

00:23:48.640 I think it's the third or fourth law of thermodynamics that says that energy can't be created or destroyed,

00:23:53.300 only transferred.

00:23:54.320 So that is, in my opinion, all the scientific proof that you would need to say, all right,

00:24:00.540 look, we don't know if we're going to a heaven.

00:24:03.620 We don't know if we're going to another realm or another parallel universe or something.

00:24:07.740 But something is absolutely happening when we die.

00:24:10.760 We don't just disperse into nothingness.

00:24:13.220 That whatever you are, the energy that encompasses you goes on.

00:24:18.160 It doesn't end when the lights go out in this human avatar.

00:24:22.480 And so that's why I love the past life regression stuff.

00:24:26.220 And I'm not saying that, like, I absolutely believe that this is what's happening.

00:24:30.680 Like, I want to believe that.

00:24:32.780 I have hints of, you know, things that may, like, want to guide me into believing that.

00:24:39.540 But I can't say 100% sure.

00:24:42.020 You know, like, that in and of itself is kind of a faith-based mentality, which, you know,

00:24:47.860 I think that faith is, you know, it's obviously warranted in a lot of, like, specific spiritual

00:24:54.420 conversations.

00:24:56.160 But that's not a way to prove it.

00:24:58.000 And so, yeah, it's wild, dude.

00:25:01.480 This is something that I was thinking about while you're talking to me about this idea

00:25:04.360 of this past life thing.

00:25:05.680 It's like you have these instances of people that get into traumatic head injuries, right?

00:25:09.540 And then suddenly they know a different language or they can play piano or they're inexplicably

00:25:13.280 good at mathematics for whatever reason.

00:25:15.460 Even though these people, you couldn't argue that there's a genetic, you know, reason.

00:25:19.840 It's not like your grandfather was a fantastic mathematician or, you know, was a professional

00:25:24.920 pianist or anything like that.

00:25:26.040 Well, you see, the average IQ of a Haitian is 67.

00:25:29.800 Don't get me started on this shit.

00:25:32.320 But look, the thing that I'm getting at here is like, okay, if you can have a head injury

00:25:39.860 and suddenly gain access to something that's not in your wheelhouse, right, that suggests

00:25:45.340 that you're tapping into something.

00:25:47.100 When it comes to these regressive hypnosis things or past life memories, could there be

00:25:52.740 something like the Akashic Records being responsible for it, right?

00:25:56.940 This idea that the collective memories and experiences of everything in the universe all

00:26:01.280 goes to one consolidated place, whether it's, you know, in another realm or wherever the

00:26:06.420 case may be.

00:26:07.040 But maybe, depending on how you tune the receiver, tune your brain, you're actually dipping into.

00:26:13.880 So maybe you're having very real experiences that actually did happen, whether it's in this reality

00:26:19.580 or another reality or something, you know, people want to get into the multiverse.

00:26:21.960 But that doesn't necessarily mean that it was your soul being recycled.

00:26:29.600 Really, what happened is you tapped into, and I'm not saying it's just a theory, you tapped

00:26:35.080 into the greater body of experiences of humankind.

00:26:40.740 So I will read you a piece of the induction.

00:26:46.080 Well, it's not necessarily the induction, but whenever I hypnotize somebody, I do have an

00:26:50.140 induction method.

00:26:51.160 He's going to make us fucking get naked on stream.

00:26:53.180 This dude's about to hypnotize us.

00:26:55.760 Hypnotize the audience.

00:26:56.600 Tell them to pay us.

00:26:57.260 Tell them to pay us.

00:26:58.100 You're pulling your dick out right now.

00:27:01.540 I'm driving to the Patreon.

00:27:04.140 You're going there now.

00:27:05.760 Top tier.

00:27:07.060 But no, there's something very interesting.

00:27:08.680 And whenever people like to say, oh, I got this information from God.

00:27:11.680 I got it from the Akashic Records.

00:27:13.180 I think that it actually might be a little bit more simple than that, strictly based upon what

00:27:18.320 I'm what I'm saying in this session.

00:27:21.420 So at the end of the session or at the end of the past life, like I said, I'm trying to

00:27:25.100 guide you to your higher self or your subconscious to be able to answer certain questions that

00:27:29.600 you have that you just can't seem to crack the code to.

00:27:33.100 And one of the things that I say is, is that I respect the power of the subconscious or the

00:27:37.540 higher self because I know the subconscious takes care of so and so's body and does a very

00:27:42.920 good job of it.

00:27:43.800 I also know that the subconscious has all the records of everything that has ever happened

00:27:48.240 to so and so in this lifetime and all the other lifetimes that they have ever lived.

00:27:54.460 So I think it's possible that whenever you look at this kind of information and you couple

00:28:02.120 it with the fact that even biblically and a bunch of other religious scripts that they

00:28:07.580 all say that God is within you.

00:28:09.260 And if God is everything, then that means that everything is within you.

00:28:12.560 I look at it that way.

00:28:14.260 And so I think that it's probably hard to really connect with that at a conscious level,

00:28:18.680 but at a subconscious level, there are strands that you can start to pull.

00:28:22.140 And maybe this is where people get downloaded information or this is where people will get

00:28:26.500 certain prophecies or whatever, whatever that connection to God or the all of the source

00:28:34.300 of the universe, whatever you want to call it, that is all within you.

00:28:38.220 It's just that you got to tune the antenna a little bit, you know?

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00:29:10.480 I don't know.

00:29:15.080 It just seems incredibly dangerous because you're not just like, is the antenna tuned to

00:29:19.820 the specific God that you're talking to?

00:29:22.660 Because I'm of the belief that there's a lot of shit floating around out there.

00:29:26.740 And it's in localities.

00:29:29.400 We know that.

00:29:30.120 Like, these things are not omnipresent.

00:29:31.440 But there's shit in this ether, in the upside down.

00:29:34.540 And you never know what's next to you.

00:29:37.340 It might be moving around or you might have moved to its location.

00:29:39.980 So like, when you open up this doorway, how could you be sure of like, what you're getting

00:29:43.600 through?

00:29:44.380 But actually, you're not asking for outside sources.

00:29:48.020 When he hypnotizes, you're going introspective.

00:29:50.080 You're going within oneself.

00:29:51.320 And also, you are protected.

00:29:54.280 Like, there are certain things that you can say whenever you're in meditation or you're

00:29:59.100 trying to perform some kind of ritual or whatever, if you believe in that kind of stuff, that there

00:30:04.280 are certain things that you can say and your subconscious mind begins to accept.

00:30:08.220 And in my induction method, I have it to where whenever somebody is getting ready to be hypnotized, before

00:30:14.740 they are even hypnotized, they are subconsciously understanding the fact that whatever is going

00:30:21.820 on, they are in this like kind of protective bubble that nothing from the outside could

00:30:26.100 possibly come in.

00:30:27.540 And therefore, maybe that suggests that you're not allowing information from any kind of outside

00:30:32.980 source into that bubble that, you know, all the information that you're getting and

00:30:37.480 receiving is strictly from you.

00:30:40.780 That's now that's, you know, that's what's in the induction method.

00:30:44.200 You can say, all right, well, who's to say that a demon can't poke that bubble and sneak

00:30:48.100 their way through there?

00:30:49.000 That's all conjecture.

00:30:50.420 Let me ask you this.

00:30:51.320 You mentioned at the top of the show that even though you come from different kind of practices

00:30:56.100 or ideologies, that you often come to the same conclusion.

00:30:58.580 And I'm not asking you for specifics, but like, what are those conclusions often look like?

00:31:03.140 Well, an example would be exactly what we're talking about right here as far as the

00:31:07.020 Shroud of Turin of Jesus.

00:31:08.900 Although we may have our different understandings and philosophies as to how this was printed

00:31:18.200 onto this shroud, we both believe that it was the actual human living being of Jesus of

00:31:25.780 Nazareth in whatever, 30 AD.

00:31:30.620 Yeah.

00:31:30.960 And so I'm going to be honest with you.

00:31:32.760 When we first looked into the Shroud of Turin, and I'm glad this was an awesome segue to

00:31:36.860 bring in how we do that.

00:31:38.700 Another example is he and I can both acknowledge what true evil is and what true good is.

00:31:43.320 For instance, pedophilic rings of the elites.

00:31:47.000 We have no problem being on the same side of that argument and dying on the hill of protecting

00:31:51.620 babies.

00:31:52.260 You know what I mean?

00:31:52.720 So more often than not, when you go up the chain of shitheads, we actually do end up on the

00:31:57.260 same footing.

00:31:57.760 But when it came to the Shroud of Turin, Jonathan reached out to me about this.

00:32:01.840 This was back episode 100 and something for he and I.

00:32:04.740 This was years ago.

00:32:06.060 And he said, bro, we need to talk about the Shroud of Turin.

00:32:08.940 And being a Christian, I knew about it.

00:32:10.940 And I had known a couple of things.

00:32:12.480 I didn't know the lengths and depths of it that we're going to go over today.

00:32:15.620 But I was like, are you sure?

00:32:17.660 He's like, dude, like the whole thing we got to talk about.

00:32:21.020 I'm like, I mean, you don't have to threaten me with a good time, bro.

00:32:23.580 I'm all about talking about things I believe in, but like, okay, sure.

00:32:28.140 And through this research, he and I both came to a very real understanding that while

00:32:35.040 forgeries may have existed, and while there is a camp of thought to say that the Shroud

00:32:40.380 itself is a forgery, if this is a forgery, then this is the people who created it somewhere

00:32:47.380 around the 1500s were so smart and so slick at creating a forgery that not only did they

00:32:53.540 get blood types right, not only did they get the scourge marks from the beatings right,

00:32:58.540 but they got the actual dirt from Jerusalem in 0 AD correct.

00:33:04.680 These people were such master forgers in the 1500s that we still can't tell the difference

00:33:09.780 today.

00:33:10.320 That's what we're left with.

00:33:11.240 So beyond a shadow of a reasonable doubt, Jonathan and I can fully stand on the firm

00:33:17.080 footing that the Shroud of Torin at one time did in fact hold the body of Yeshua of Nazareth

00:33:23.320 that we know to be Jesus Christ.

00:33:25.840 And by the way, you know, there, obviously, I don't know if everybody knows the whole story

00:33:32.100 about, you know, whenever he was taken down from the cross and put into the tomb and with

00:33:36.360 the, with the shroud or anything.

00:33:37.580 So maybe we should probably give a little bit of a back.

00:33:39.400 That's exactly what I was going to, thank you so much for doing that.

00:33:41.800 Cause that's exactly what I was going to recommend for those people who might not know.

00:33:44.400 I have a peripheral knowledge of it.

00:33:46.140 You know, it seems pretty self-explanatory and I've watched some videos and such, but

00:33:49.480 I would really appreciate, let's lay out what exactly the shroud is.

00:33:53.280 And then we can get into what sounds like a little bit of indication for you guys, because

00:33:56.560 like we discussed earlier, they came out and they, they said that they've dated it back

00:34:01.140 to about 2000 years old.

00:34:02.500 So, I mean, you know, great big high five between the two of you.

00:34:05.060 Uh, so let's, let's lay out a little bit of what, what is the shroud of Turin for those

00:34:09.580 who may not know.

00:34:10.460 All right.

00:34:10.780 So let's just start at the top here.

00:34:12.240 The shroud of corn, a shroud or more specifically a death shroud is a cloth that a person is

00:34:18.440 buried in.

00:34:18.980 Okay.

00:34:19.200 It's traditionally been used in multiple cultures around the world.

00:34:22.080 Have either of you seen the movie Braveheart?

00:34:24.120 Yes.

00:34:24.740 Do y'all remember the scene where, when his first wife that he married in secret died, they

00:34:29.360 buried her in a secret place and she was wearing some sort of like mesh sheath looking

00:34:33.200 cloth.

00:34:33.520 So yes, this would be a death shroud.

00:34:35.880 And that was a traditional type that was used in Scotland at that time.

00:34:38.840 However, there are multiple cultures with traditions of using death shrouds, the Jews, the Hebrews

00:34:43.860 being one of them.

00:34:44.920 All right.

00:34:45.380 Now the shroud in question is currently kept in Torino, Italy, and it is in the Piemont

00:34:50.780 region, hence where it gets the name shroud of Turin.

00:34:53.080 Okay.

00:34:53.320 It's in the, it is currently hailed in the cathedral of St. John the Baptist in Turin, Italy.

00:34:57.980 And it's been there since 1578.

00:35:00.340 Now the shroud itself in question, as we look at it, okay, let's break down a little bit

00:35:05.220 about how it was made, what's it made of and all these things.

00:35:07.740 But for the, for the overarching theme of how it came to be, the story goes, Jesus was

00:35:13.700 crucified.

00:35:14.180 But before that he was beaten, he was flogged.

00:35:16.700 He was scourged with a cat of nine tails.

00:35:18.540 This is a whip that has nine leather straps connected to the ends were pieces of metal

00:35:22.640 hooks, bone, whatever you want.

00:35:24.560 It was meant to rip flesh from bone.

00:35:26.500 Okay.

00:35:26.860 And he was beaten with this upwards of, I want to say it was like 300, 400 times, which is

00:35:32.560 crazy because, well, actually we'll get into the significance of the number of beatings

00:35:36.120 later.

00:35:36.400 But anyway, he was beaten within an inch of his life.

00:35:39.660 A lot of prisoners died in the process of getting beaten in this manner, but then he was

00:35:43.980 made to carry his own cross, the implement of his own murder to the place of called Golgotha,

00:35:50.520 the Mount of Skulls, where the Romans did a lot of executions.

00:35:54.080 He was nailed to the cross.

00:35:55.160 He was left to suffocate and die.

00:35:56.620 Now, execution by crucifixion is the slowest way to suffocate a human being.

00:36:03.240 Still to this day, there's no other method that comes close.

00:36:05.880 The Romans were able to figure this out through a very, very brutal means of trial and error.

00:36:10.240 This wasn't like Christianity is the only group that did the crucifixion jam.

00:36:13.960 Keep in mind, Spartacus and his whole uprising were crucified by the Roman government when they

00:36:18.580 were finally put down.

00:36:19.700 So this was not a regular type of execution, but it was saved for the absolute most heinous

00:36:25.980 and horrible criminals that Rome would come across.

00:36:28.700 So we know for a fact that whoever was hailed within the Shroud of Torrin was a crucifixion

00:36:34.720 victim.

00:36:34.860 We can see that from the marks from through the wrists and through the feet.

00:36:39.120 Also, there was only one example of a crown of thorns being placed onto a prisoner's head

00:36:44.580 before their death.

00:36:45.520 In the negative of the Shroud of Torrin, we can clearly see those marks as well, but I

00:36:49.100 might be getting a little ahead of myself on the Shroud and what we actually see with

00:36:52.320 it.

00:36:52.900 The Shroud is made of cheap materials, but is a very rare way that it's put together.

00:36:58.100 Think of this as a, you have like a hoodie.

00:37:00.780 Okay.

00:37:00.980 Now you have your Walmart brand hoodie and you have your name brand hoodie that costs

00:37:04.800 $500.

00:37:05.660 They're made out of the same material, but one is more high quality.

00:37:08.660 You with me?

00:37:09.860 So the Shroud of Torrin was made with inexpensive materials, but in a high quality way.

00:37:15.180 Um, it is, the cloth is woven into a three in one herringbone twill pattern.

00:37:19.480 It is very rare for the first century AD.

00:37:21.920 However, there has recently been another example discovered in a Roman encampment in Egypt.

00:37:26.600 They were doing some excavation.

00:37:28.520 They found this whole, uh, I'm not sure if it was like a chest of clothing or what, but

00:37:32.320 they found clothing materials in this Roman encampment, all having the same three in one

00:37:36.620 herringbone twill pattern rare, but this is yet another historical precedence of the fact

00:37:41.300 that this cloth does date back to the first century AD in Rome.

00:37:45.920 This pattern is shown, like I said, uh, in the Hungarian manuscript, as a matter of fact,

00:37:50.460 in 1192, I don't know if I'm able to share the screen, but I had a couple of images

00:37:55.700 I wanted to pull up to show historical precedence to this.

00:37:58.940 Hold on.

00:37:59.740 How do we share screen?

00:38:01.000 Uh, yeah, you're going to see a tab at the bottom.

00:38:03.120 It says present.

00:38:03.800 You'll click on that and then it'll ask you for the tab that you want to share.

00:38:06.900 Oh shit, man.

00:38:08.260 You guys are killing it so far.

00:38:09.460 I am enthralled.

00:38:10.760 Yeah, dude.

00:38:11.420 Yeah.

00:38:11.580 This is, this is perfect.

00:38:12.640 Very, very pumped.

00:38:13.840 Okay.

00:38:14.120 I am unable to do this.

00:38:15.960 If one of y'all could Google image, um, Hungarian manuscript 1192, I promise you'll see the picture

00:38:23.220 that I'm talking about.

00:38:24.040 It's, it's very, very popular on this one.

00:38:26.640 This manuscript also shows these L shaped burn markings, which we will discuss in a little

00:38:31.740 bit.

00:38:31.940 But the fact that it was shown in 1192 is very important because there was a fire in

00:38:36.120 the 1500s that has been the subject of a lot of conjecture around the shroud.

00:38:39.780 But again, getting ahead of myself.

00:38:41.660 Um, the dimensions are currently 14 foot, six inches by three foot, nine inches, but

00:38:47.360 this is after the shroud was steamed and stretched out in 2002.

00:38:51.460 The original dimensions did in fact, uh, line up with the traditional death shroud dimensions

00:38:57.120 that would have been around in the first century AD.

00:39:00.320 However, uh, the stretching that took place, they were measured in cubits.

00:39:04.220 I should mention that.

00:39:05.280 So the cubits to feet, it is a correct translation.

00:39:08.160 One-to-one the stretching in 2002 is what made it a different size.

00:39:11.660 These days, some of those images you'll see, there will be a body on the shroud and then

00:39:15.480 right under it, you'll see another one.

00:39:17.700 If you zoom in, uh, hold on, scroll up.

00:39:23.400 Uh, I wish I could show them.

00:39:25.980 Damn.

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00:39:53.140 So on the top of that, you see the body of Jesus.

00:40:01.620 And if you zoom in on the one underneath it, you'll see this hair and bone twill pattern,

00:40:06.560 the interwoven side of it.

00:40:08.280 And you'll also see L-shaped burn marks.

00:40:10.680 It's interesting that they saw fit to even, uh, leave that descriptive in the image,

00:40:15.800 right?

00:40:16.040 The, the, the pattern that it was sewed into.

00:40:17.900 That's, that's an interesting detail that they tried to preserve.

00:40:20.820 I agree.

00:40:21.300 A hundred percent.

00:40:22.020 And it's crazy because we look at medieval art and we look at medieval artwork and it's

00:40:25.260 not the best detail, but they did in fact make sure to leave details when it came to

00:40:29.560 the Lord and savior.

00:40:30.560 I agree.

00:40:31.240 I think that is fascinating.

00:40:32.320 That is fascinating.

00:40:33.520 Uh, so like I said, the original dimensions were measured in cubits, but it is consistent with

00:40:37.460 other burial shrouds of this time.

00:40:39.180 The original shroud is 0.04 inches thick and has a thread count of between 70 to 120 micron

00:40:46.680 and a thread count of that per inch.

00:40:48.900 And it's each thread is about 200 ish microns thick.

00:40:52.520 And again, we're doing ish and there's a little bit of tolerance here because this was handmade

00:40:56.000 woven material.

00:40:56.840 There was no, uh, factory textiles at that time.

00:40:59.400 So you have a little bit of give and take on that.

00:41:01.900 The brown lines on the side that go up and down the entire length of the shroud, uh, actually

00:41:06.860 are scorch marks from the fire in 1532.

00:41:09.800 And as we could see from that Hungarian text, we didn't see brown scorch marks that has become

00:41:13.860 so iconic to the shroud today.

00:41:15.860 That drawing, that manuscript was scripted 400 years before the fire actually took place.

00:41:22.360 So from the fire on where we start to see the coloration that we know of it today.

00:41:26.860 Um, let me see here.

00:41:28.420 The four L shaping marks, those burn marks, no one actually knows where those came from,

00:41:34.120 but it is believed to be, uh, from burning incense that may have dropped on it.

00:41:39.080 And they believe that maybe the shroud was folded into fourths.

00:41:41.940 So somehow these incense were dropped on it and burned all the way through in the exact

00:41:45.860 same pattern.

00:41:46.640 When they unfolded it, we had four L's out of it.

00:41:49.620 Now, again, up to debate.

00:41:51.280 Is that something that you, you think, because when I, it looks indicative of being, you know,

00:41:56.180 folded into fourths and then having some sort of stain, whatever, uh, happened to it and

00:41:59.880 permeate the layers.

00:42:01.100 Yeah, I personally do believe this.

00:42:02.820 And there are some experts that debate this because that's the thing.

00:42:06.240 There's no record of it, how it got the burn marks.

00:42:08.680 We just know it allegedly was in this place at this day and age.

00:42:12.240 We have a manuscript showing the burn marks and then boom, honestly, whoever was the responsible

00:42:17.820 party for those burns probably took that to their grave because heaven forbid that they

00:42:22.780 be the one to say they damaged the shroud of Jesus.

00:42:26.100 So fair enough.

00:42:28.520 Uh, another famous painting from 1516 shows those holes again, uh, verifying that the

00:42:34.320 burn marks predate the 1532 fire from the chamber in France.

00:42:39.100 So there's another painting 1516 showing those L's, but not those long burn marks, right?

00:42:45.260 Cut to the fire happens.

00:42:46.620 Uh, Oh, I should also mention also the painting doesn't have the scorch mark lines.

00:42:50.580 There are eight major burns that occurred from molten silver creating a geometric pattern

00:42:55.740 from the fire of 1532.

00:42:57.520 So how they had the thing displayed in the chamber each cathedral in France, big glass case

00:43:03.060 silver lined framework.

00:43:05.260 And when the fire happens, some of that silver, again, we're not talking like modern, uh, silver

00:43:10.100 smithing methods.

00:43:10.880 It was the best they could do.

00:43:11.880 Some of it actually melted and fell onto the shroud itself, which led to other burn marks.

00:43:17.160 There was some nuns that actually, uh, sewed on these triangle patterns where those silver

00:43:22.940 molten marks burned.

00:43:24.280 That would be those triangle patterns that we see four of them.

00:43:26.960 As a matter of fact, on the shroud today.

00:43:28.560 Okay.

00:43:29.060 Um, real quick.

00:43:30.020 Is there any questions?

00:43:30.640 I know I'm blaring through this information.

00:43:32.840 I'm kind of going at a rapid pace.

00:43:34.180 Well, I top, I don't know if you have anything, uh, specific, but no, I'm, I'm trying to,

00:43:38.760 I'm, I'm like streaming through the story here.

00:43:40.160 So, so, so let's keep it going.

00:43:41.780 But, but before we move on from the topic, I would like to address what the, cause everything

00:43:45.960 that you're laying out here is awfully convincing.

00:43:48.320 It seems like they've had this sort of paper trail for a long time.

00:43:50.700 So then what in, I think it was the eighties, right?

00:43:53.420 Where they pretty much dismissed it.

00:43:55.080 And it's like, well, with what information did they dismiss it?

00:43:58.020 Cause everything that I'm hearing now is very compelling, but I don't want to derail you from,

00:44:01.580 from what you're doing now.

00:44:02.280 Let's just keep that on the table.

00:44:03.740 Well, look, before we get into any more of it, I think that, you know, the, you could

00:44:09.680 say that maybe some of the compelling evidence would actually come from the Bible itself.

00:44:14.380 And so I kind of want to give a little bit of reference here.

00:44:17.280 I have some of the, uh, the Bible quotes, um, right here.

00:44:21.380 And by the way, a lot of my research is done by, um, uh, this dude.

00:44:26.080 Well, he's not a dude.

00:44:26.760 He's a father, uh, father, Andrew Dalton.

00:44:29.500 He's somebody who has studied this back and forth for years.

00:44:33.420 He's gone all over the world and gathered information from everybody who is just absolutely

00:44:37.820 obsessed with the shroud of Turin.

00:44:39.380 And the way that he speaks about it is just, I love people who are, you know, kind of upbeat

00:44:44.800 and very excited whenever they're relaying information.

00:44:47.140 Cause there are some people who just talk like this and you can't even fucking listen to them

00:44:50.860 for more than five minutes without lulling yourself to sleep.

00:44:52.800 But this guy is very upbeat.

00:44:54.380 And one of the things that he likes to reference is, is, uh, John chapter 20, verse four through

00:44:59.800 eight.

00:45:00.900 Um, and so this is in the Bible.

00:45:03.300 It says both of them were running together, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached

00:45:07.960 the tomb first and stooping to look in.

00:45:10.760 He saw the linen cloths lying there, but he did not go in.

00:45:14.840 Um, so he stooped, um, uh, the reason why he was stooping is because the tomb, uh, is,

00:45:21.400 is, you know, obviously from like first century Israel, they had a stairwell that led down towards

00:45:26.480 the entryway into this cave.

00:45:27.940 And so if you want to be able to get a good angle to see deep inside, uh, from where you're

00:45:33.500 standing, you'd have to stoop and get low because the stairwell creates an obstacle to

00:45:37.140 see inside.

00:45:37.960 So he stoops and doesn't go in, but he does see from a distance.

00:45:41.680 Now we get over to John chapter 20, verses six through eight, which is very interesting.

00:45:46.820 It says, then Simon, Peter came following him and went into the tomb.

00:45:51.080 He saw the linen cloths lying there and the face, uh, cloth, because there was like a face

00:45:56.160 cloth also, which we'll show the pictures.

00:45:58.540 It's fucking insane.

00:45:59.440 But the face cloth, which had been on his head, not lying with the linen cloths, but folded

00:46:05.540 up in a place by itself.

00:46:07.300 Then the other disciple who came to the tomb first went in also, and it says he saw and

00:46:14.980 he believed.

00:46:16.380 So he saw all of that and instantly he was an absolute believer if he wasn't already before

00:46:22.420 that Jesus had risen.

00:46:24.640 So the folding of the cloth is actually very significant to the Hebrew culture as well.

00:46:29.920 Let me explain.

00:46:30.540 In that culture to that day and age, and I don't know if this is still something that

00:46:34.740 permeates to today, but during that day and age, if, uh, you were a guest at a person's

00:46:39.740 house and you were eating, and if you got up from the table, use the bathroom, go get

00:46:43.520 something, whatever, you would leave your napkin folded on your plate.

00:46:47.260 That would mean that you're not done.

00:46:48.900 You're coming back.

00:46:50.240 Okay.

00:46:50.840 If you were done with your meal, you would just wipe your mouth, whatever, leave the

00:46:53.780 napkin, any old type of way they'd pick it up.

00:46:55.520 But Jesus folded the cloth, meaning he was coming back.

00:47:01.640 Man, that is cool because it sounds like to a degree, it's like, this is just a really

00:47:05.920 organized dude.

00:47:07.800 And it's like, no, this is not a, he's coming back.

00:47:10.340 I love that.

00:47:10.800 That's gangster.

00:47:11.420 I love that there used to be like, whenever people, you think of like, what's a gangster

00:47:14.520 move to pull off today?

00:47:15.540 And it's so sloppy in comparison to decorum that they had back in the day, folding a napkin

00:47:20.380 and everyone's looking at it like, oh shit, he's coming back.

00:47:22.760 I love that.

00:47:23.400 After they've killed you, you fold the napkin, you leave it on the table and you say like,

00:47:26.880 I want more.

00:47:28.020 You put a little chocolate on your pillow.

00:47:29.900 And keep in mind, the tomb itself, now again, depends on which gospel you read because the

00:47:34.480 gospels are written to different individual groups.

00:47:37.320 There's, there's conjecture to say that that's why there's fallacies in the Bible.

00:47:40.780 This story doesn't line up with this story.

00:47:42.560 They omit certain details.

00:47:43.640 Like, no, that's not exactly the case.

00:47:45.700 One was written to the Gentiles.

00:47:47.640 One was written to the Jews.

00:47:49.020 One was written to the Romans.

00:47:50.100 There's a reason for these things.

00:47:51.420 There's significance that was put on certain factors other than, or rather than others

00:47:55.720 that doesn't negate those facts.

00:47:57.740 It's, there's reasons for all of that.

00:47:59.560 But depending on the source that you read, keep in mind, the tomb was sealed.

00:48:04.220 The Romans were worried that this new Messiah figure, this new cult that he was following

00:48:08.940 or was following him was going to become a problem.

00:48:11.620 They actually had Roman centuries posted as guards on this tomb.

00:48:16.280 They sealed it with rope and with wax.

00:48:18.040 They wanted to make sure that they wouldn't steal this body to claim some sort of crazy

00:48:22.280 resurrection story.

00:48:23.680 This tomb didn't have any trap doors.

00:48:25.640 This was a cave.

00:48:26.500 The cave was owned by Jesus' uncle, Joseph, Joseph of Arimathea.

00:48:30.240 There's a whole backstory to that, which also could be why he was buried in such a, like

00:48:34.920 I said, cheap materials, but well-made cloth.

00:48:37.460 Okay.

00:48:37.660 That was an expensive cloth.

00:48:38.940 The clothes that he actually was buried or was murdered in was a double linen cloak.

00:48:43.740 As a matter of fact, when it was ripped from him, the Roman guards started gambling for

00:48:47.280 who would get it because it was such a high quality garment to say that he had a rich uncle

00:48:51.360 who also footed the bill for the death tomb.

00:48:53.860 That would make sense as well.

00:48:55.000 So it was sealed under Roman guard.

00:48:57.880 No way this guy got out without anybody seeing when the women came, they asked the guards to

00:49:02.780 roll back the tomb.

00:49:04.280 And it was, they go in and see this situation.

00:49:07.880 The cloth is folded.

00:49:08.940 He is gone.

00:49:10.300 There's no explanation.

00:49:11.340 Dude, it's, it's, uh, absolutely nuts.

00:49:15.740 But what's really great is, is that there's a lot of information that you can actually

00:49:19.700 learn about how they used to do things back in the day by strictly just observing some

00:49:25.960 of the markings that are on this shroud.

00:49:27.860 So for example, a lot of people had always thought that Jesus, you know, he had nails

00:49:32.740 driven through his hands.

00:49:33.920 That's, you know, typically the picture that you'd see, it would be driven through his hands.

00:49:37.300 However, um, the shroud itself shows that the nails were actually driven through the wrists.

00:49:43.860 The reason behind that is because they found out earlier when nailing people to a cross that

00:49:48.500 the nail would slide up the hand because there is no bone there to block the nail from sliding

00:49:53.600 up.

00:49:54.380 Therefore they put it through the wrist and the bottom bone of the hand would stop the

00:49:58.720 nail from sliding up, which makes a lot more sense if you're trying to keep somebody there

00:50:02.620 for days.

00:50:03.500 Yep.

00:50:04.120 And they've also utilitarian.

00:50:05.520 Yeah.

00:50:06.100 Yeah.

00:50:06.300 They've done experiments as well.

00:50:07.440 They would actually put a pedestal just below their feet, not high enough to where they could

00:50:12.080 stand up and take their weight off and get a full breath of air, but just low enough to

00:50:16.340 where they could try to extend the punishment further.

00:50:19.440 And that's another thing that they have done studies on to say why it lasted so long with

00:50:23.320 Jesus.

00:50:23.620 They believe he did that.

00:50:25.060 Also worth mentioning the whole stab wound in the ribs, why they did that and how, what came

00:50:30.340 out of it makes sense, water and blood.

00:50:33.160 And that's the stain that's shown on the shroud.

00:50:35.540 But again, all right, all right, let's get back to it.

00:50:37.120 All right.

00:50:37.780 So talking about the water stains, there are numerous water stains and blood stains on

00:50:41.960 the shroud.

00:50:42.760 Some of the water stains are from putting out the fire that happened in the cathedral.

00:50:48.220 Others are actually from the body housed within the shroud at one point, most notably around

00:50:53.040 the head and torso.

00:50:54.140 Now the head that makes sense, sweat, water, blood, all these things, but the torso in

00:50:59.320 particular at one particular stab wound to the ribs.

00:51:03.160 Now, again, it's about how many of these victims could have been buried in this manner with

00:51:09.940 these markings, with all of these things.

00:51:11.840 Cause there's the school of thought is to say, okay, maybe the shroud is real to the day

00:51:16.040 and age, but that doesn't mean it was Jesus's.

00:51:18.060 It's like, okay, find me another crucifixion victim that fits that bill, homie.

00:51:22.060 You know, there's not many, right, right, right.

00:51:24.480 You couldn't make an argument that it seems to be that they were, you know, based off

00:51:27.780 of what you're describing, fine tuning their torturing techniques.

00:51:30.380 Maybe this is something that they like to do, but it seems a lot easier to just say, yeah,

00:51:34.520 he was a real guy.

00:51:36.000 Yeah.

00:51:36.380 Well, and also to even add on top of that, like, as I was saying, this father, Andrew

00:51:40.920 Dalton, I mean, he gets into the specific details behind the shit.

00:51:44.760 It is nuts.

00:51:45.900 But what he says is, I'm sorry.

00:51:47.800 Can I ask you guys a question to maybe like, uh.

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00:52:20.340 Detour from the Shravatorium really quick.

00:52:23.520 The Spear of Destiny.

00:52:25.120 I know that, uh, like, so do you, do you understand any of the supernatural properties that this

00:52:31.460 thing possibly would have?

00:52:33.160 Because I know Hitler was looking for it.

00:52:35.100 And if it pierced Jesus, it's his last piercing that killed him.

00:52:39.460 There's something to this.

00:52:40.620 So do you guys know anything about that?

00:52:42.280 Yes.

00:52:42.740 But also it's not what killed Jesus.

00:52:45.020 If you look at the story, he was dead.

00:52:46.980 He said it was finished and the earthquake happened.

00:52:49.540 The Romans stabbed him with the spear later to ensure that he was dead.

00:52:53.040 Right, right, right, right, right.

00:52:54.340 There's already stories about what happened with it.

00:52:57.260 Was it a real thing?

00:52:58.240 The Roman guard that did it, I forget his name, but apparently he, like, got saved in

00:53:01.840 the process and this became an artifact.

00:53:03.880 It gets really, really mixed up in legend and lore, very similar to the Holy Grail, right?

00:53:08.500 The cup that Jesus drank from at the last supper, keep in mind, it was a bread and wine

00:53:12.920 meal and it was the hand of a carpenter that was serving.

00:53:17.600 Yes, it was this golden pimped out chalice.

00:53:19.740 Like, are you sure?

00:53:21.280 Are you sure it wasn't like clay or wood?

00:53:24.060 That's a lot of things where they get mixed up in the lore and the legend of it.

00:53:27.700 And it honestly, who can say?

00:53:30.180 Right.

00:53:30.960 And, and so like, you know, kind of going back to the, to the whole question, like how do

00:53:35.820 people, all right.

00:53:36.440 So there were plenty of people that were crucified back in the day.

00:53:38.920 How can we be so sure that this had to have been Jesus?

00:53:43.080 Well, um, what's interesting is, is that there is only one documented case of someone

00:53:48.740 dying on a cross with a crown of thorns and the shroud indicates that Jesus was pierced

00:53:53.700 on the forehead and all the way around his head.

00:53:56.000 And you can see the blood marks from the plucking of his beard, the overabundances, uh, the overabundance

00:54:02.380 of lashes to his body only by the way, because we said that we were going to go back to that

00:54:07.740 those lashings.

00:54:09.220 So it said that whenever you would be torturing somebody that was up on the cross, you wouldn't

00:54:13.780 give them more than 40 lashes, anything more, anything, 40 lashes or more were only fit for

00:54:20.220 an animal.

00:54:20.680 So you would only give a human lashings of 39, anything more than that.

00:54:26.280 It would, it would have to be an animal.

00:54:27.900 He got like 400 lashes and that was just the level of disrespect.

00:54:33.100 So it just goes to show that not only would that old, you would only give that kind of

00:54:37.720 treatment to an animal, but it suggests that Jesus was especially special for this one.

00:54:43.080 And that also shows up in the shroud.

00:54:45.400 And you got to keep in mind the way the Romans would torture people.

00:54:47.700 Take away the story of Jesus for two seconds.

00:54:49.660 Roman corporal punishment.

00:54:51.580 Those lashings was not just the thing they did for Jesus.

00:54:54.420 What they would do as a matter of fact, have you ever seen the passion of the Christ?

00:54:58.280 Yes.

00:54:58.800 Okay.

00:54:59.000 So you remember the stake that they tied him to when they would whip him, what the Romans

00:55:02.600 typically would do if it wasn't an execution, but a beating and a lesson learned or something

00:55:06.700 along those lines, they would chain their hands to their feet and force them to heal in that

00:55:12.080 configuration so that they would never be able to stand completely upright again.

00:55:15.760 All of their muscles and skin would have to heal in that way so that they would walk the

00:55:19.460 rest of their life and everyone would know what type of criminal they were.

00:55:22.580 Okay.

00:55:23.020 Now the whole 39, oh wait, not 40.

00:55:26.020 They would just swap tools.

00:55:27.660 They just went from the sticks to the cat of nine tails to the, this, and they would just

00:55:31.460 swap up to keep it quote unquote legal.

00:55:33.840 So Jesus took over 400 lashes until the point about how many crucifixion victims could this

00:55:39.140 have been in this death shroud.

00:55:41.080 Here's the deal.

00:55:42.080 There is only one other case of a crucifixion victim getting proper ceremonial Hebrew burial.

00:55:49.920 Okay.

00:55:50.320 Here's the reason.

00:55:51.540 Typically, if you were getting crucified, you did something so bad that even Hebrew law

00:55:56.360 acknowledged you to be a criminal and they weren't going to give you some sort of honorary

00:55:59.480 burial.

00:56:00.280 Okay.

00:56:00.720 Like that's not a thing.

00:56:02.360 So for the other guy that did it, I forget the entire story, but he was wrongfully accused

00:56:06.900 of something.

00:56:07.400 It was a theft of some type and the Romans crucified him.

00:56:10.320 But his tribesmen tribe of Judah tribesmen gave him a proper burial.

00:56:14.720 The only other example is whoever was buried in the shroud of touring.

00:56:18.840 And yet again, there's no other record or somebody who got that type of beating that crown of

00:56:23.640 thorns, the beard plucked.

00:56:25.500 Then again, to the forgery side of things.

00:56:28.140 All right.

00:56:29.180 This is what's going to mess you all up.

00:56:30.500 And we're going to talk about the 1988 tests that were done on the shroud.

00:56:35.540 All right.

00:56:35.780 Here we go.

00:56:37.120 Through spectroscopal skinopi, dirt was found on the feet, cheek, and arm, all indicating

00:56:43.860 that the soil in question comes from the roads of Jerusalem from the first century A.D.

00:56:48.460 Now, this was contested because, oh, how can you even tell that?

00:56:52.060 What about?

00:56:52.360 OK, here's the deal.

00:56:53.140 Later tests from X-ray micro fluorescence and scanner electron microscopy confirmed these

00:56:59.400 results.

00:57:00.280 The way they did this is that the dirt was made of limestone and calcite.

00:57:04.120 Now, the limestone and calcite have this weird ability to leave a signature.

00:57:08.660 Very similar to have y'all ever seen a flint napping?

00:57:11.480 You know, like back in the day, cavemen would flint nap an arrowhead or they would

00:57:14.700 flip a knife or something.

00:57:16.320 We can take that piece of chert, which is what that flint napping thing is called, and

00:57:21.360 we can tell what mountain range that came from because certain stones leave a signature,

00:57:26.200 so to speak.

00:57:26.720 They're made out of the same type of materials.

00:57:29.220 Matter of fact, there was a stone knife that was found in North Carolina who, come to find

00:57:33.980 out, came from a mountain in France 30,000 years ago, and they're still trying to figure

00:57:37.580 that one out.

00:57:38.580 But when it comes to the dirt in question on the Shroud of Torrin, through all of the electron

00:57:43.500 microscopes, through all of the x-ray biolumina, all of the stuff, they can confirm beyond any

00:57:48.920 shadow of a doubt that the soil question in sample, soil sample in question, got that

00:57:54.220 backwards, came absolutely without any shadow of any doubt from the streets of Jerusalem

00:57:59.480 in the first century AD.

00:58:01.020 And to really tie that in even more, to get a little bit more detailed, it's that it was

00:58:06.740 determined that it was calcium carbonate with remnants of strontium and its crystalline

00:58:14.000 structure.

00:58:14.420 Whenever it looked under a microscope, it also had travertine aragonite, which, according to

00:58:22.240 geologists, they say that it matches the soil of the grottos in Jerusalem like a fingerprint.

00:58:28.220 Like, that's how specific it is, and therefore, there's no way that it could have been fabricated

00:58:33.980 in France like some people may suggest.

00:58:36.220 Now, before we get into the image of the body on the Shroud, because that's where my next

00:58:40.140 notes go, is there any questions about things thus far?

00:58:43.420 I mean, where I was going to go next was going to be what caused the image.

00:58:47.940 That's actually what I have written down here.

00:58:49.280 So this is kind of perfect because it's like, you know, I can imagine there being some sort

00:58:55.140 of an image left on a body, but but as pronounced as it is, it's it's definitely unique.

00:59:02.640 And I do think very often about how would that sort of an imprint be left?

00:59:06.740 Well, there is so much interesting information backing that as well.

00:59:11.620 So there have been scientists that have been trying to figure out how to even recreate this

00:59:16.300 whole Shroud of Turin, right?

00:59:17.580 Like they're trying to just, you know, debunk the whole idea.

00:59:20.940 There's no way this is possible that this can be recreated.

00:59:24.300 Well, some people suggest that it's a painting or a needling or a scorch or some kind of watercolor.

00:59:30.080 But what they've discovered is, is that the depth of penetration of coloration on the Shroud

00:59:35.580 itself is 200 to 500 nanometers, which to put it in spectrum is one fifth of one thousandth

00:59:45.360 of a millimeter.

00:59:46.940 That's the depth of coloration on the Shroud itself.

00:59:49.600 And if you take a single human hair and divide it by the divide, that width of the hair

00:59:55.160 by one twentieth, you have the depth of the coloration of the Shroud.

00:59:59.540 And on top of that, if you were to take a razor and just graze the Shroud ever so lightly,

01:00:05.280 you would erase the picture of the Shroud forever.

01:00:08.860 So here's the deal.

01:00:09.960 Is it that you remember when I said that the threads of the Shroud were 200 microns thick?

01:00:14.800 The image only permeates two microns of thread where it is.

01:00:22.000 So here's the deal.

01:00:23.900 It is not made with dyes or paints or pigments.

01:00:26.460 All scans have shown no indication or signs of this.

01:00:29.260 Not only that, when you shine light directly on the Shroud, the image disappears.

01:00:33.640 It is only with indirect light that you can even see it in the first place.

01:00:37.440 Actually, if y'all could, pull up a picture of the Shroud of Thorin and it in the negative.

01:00:40.700 There's a lot of famous pictures of them next to each other.

01:00:43.140 And I want to kind of go over all of the different discolorations we're looking at

01:00:47.040 because a lot of it has been changed.

01:00:48.760 There's been some things sewn on over the years.

01:00:50.760 There's been some burn marks.

01:00:52.320 There's some blood stains.

01:00:53.820 Some people stole part of it, right?

01:00:57.020 Well, not stole it.

01:00:58.700 Certain royal families cut off strips of it and gave it as gifts.

01:01:02.020 Well, we're going to get to that in a minute.

01:01:03.400 So I want to talk about the image on the Shroud first,

01:01:05.440 and then we're going to go over the history of how it got to where it is today

01:01:08.320 from the tomb of Jesus to Turin, Italy.

01:01:12.240 All right, so that is it in the negative.

01:01:14.380 So if you look at it in the positive negative, here you go.

01:01:17.220 The image that is shown is from a combination of discoloration of the fibers

01:01:20.700 and blood stains, watermarks, and scorch marks.

01:01:23.720 However, the image of the man only penetrates, like I said,

01:01:26.280 the first two microns of each fiber.

01:01:28.460 All scans and tests that have shown no signs of any kind of paint

01:01:32.400 or any other type of pigmentation.

01:01:34.340 In fact, indirect light, like I said, is the only way that you can see the image.

01:01:38.320 The position of the body is set in whatever would have been

01:01:40.820 like a traditional burial position.

01:01:43.540 Everybody wants to bring up rigor mortis.

01:01:46.000 I've heard so many people claim that this could not be Jesus

01:01:49.620 because he died in a crucifixion pose.

01:01:52.160 His arms would be stuck like this forever, right?

01:01:54.180 Okay, pause.

01:01:55.540 To any of y'all's listeners,

01:01:57.240 how do you think crash victims that die in these crazy contorted positions

01:02:00.960 get open casket funerals?

01:02:03.340 Rigor mortis is a temporary status of a corpse.

01:02:06.560 It only goes on for a couple of hours.

01:02:08.460 Yeah, the body gets stiffer, but you can still manipulate it.

01:02:11.340 That's what morticians do.

01:02:12.980 Okay, so the rigor mortis of it and him,

01:02:15.580 why aren't his arms raised?

01:02:16.920 That's a silly argument to make, right?

01:02:19.880 We don't really see the details of the image

01:02:22.240 until looked at in the negative.

01:02:23.820 And this was first done in 1898.

01:02:26.960 Yeah, 1898.

01:02:28.780 In that photograph,

01:02:30.200 the blood is the positive in that image.

01:02:32.520 When we look at it in the negative,

01:02:33.360 and we see these random white things that are just protruding

01:02:35.680 and right in the middle of it,

01:02:37.320 that would be the blood stains.

01:02:39.340 Also worth mentioning,

01:02:40.460 when you shine,

01:02:41.640 or I said the image just appears,

01:02:43.020 the blood stains at the wrist and feet

01:02:44.580 clearly show that this is a victim of crucifixion,

01:02:46.940 and also the ribs and head,

01:02:48.820 like we said,

01:02:49.240 is a mixture of blood and water.

01:02:51.140 The blood has been analyzed to be type AB.

01:02:54.220 Now, that doesn't necessarily mean

01:02:56.260 that Jesus Christ was AB blood type,

01:02:58.400 because after blood is left to oxidize

01:03:00.840 and be slowly but surely degenerated,

01:03:03.240 unless it is a O type blood,

01:03:04.940 pretty much all blood degenerates into AB.

01:03:07.520 So is it possible Jesus was AB?

01:03:09.680 Yes, but not a guarantee.

01:03:12.040 Like I said,

01:03:12.880 other crucifixion victims have been brought up,

01:03:15.960 but none of them have been given

01:03:16.920 a traditional burial like this,

01:03:19.220 and not showing all of those scourge marks.

01:03:21.500 You could see it in the negative.

01:03:22.420 This dude had 400 lashes.

01:03:24.660 You could also see from the offset angle of them

01:03:27.060 that the two people that were beating him,

01:03:29.300 one of them was probably a little taller than the other.

01:03:31.940 You could tell that by the direction

01:03:33.460 and the force of the slashes.

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01:04:06.140 Dude, all right.

01:04:07.400 So, and on top of that,

01:04:09.040 so, yeah, they discovered the whole,

01:04:11.580 the negative x-ray,

01:04:13.020 what was it, 1898 or something like that.

01:04:15.120 But there was a scientist in the 1930s

01:04:18.400 that argued that the only way

01:04:20.520 the image could have formed on the cloth

01:04:22.520 is through exposure to radiation.

01:04:25.000 It was this Russian scientist.

01:04:26.260 His name is Alexander Belyakov.

01:04:29.280 He suggested that the image could have formed

01:04:31.500 through intense but short-lasting exposure to light.

01:04:35.080 Others have argued that the x-ray,

01:04:36.940 or x-radiation or ultra-violent rays

01:04:39.340 could account for the image's creation.

01:04:42.500 Whatever the source of the radiation might have been,

01:04:45.140 the researchers unanimously agreed

01:04:47.520 that the radiant source was vertical,

01:04:50.340 meaning that the light had to have come

01:04:52.180 from above the cloth.

01:04:54.080 And then there was this Italian researcher,

01:04:55.880 pretty cool.

01:04:56.800 His name is Paolo de Lazaro.

01:04:59.860 He stated that the radiation,

01:05:01.700 which he believes to have been ultra-violent,

01:05:04.320 it exceeds the maximum power released

01:05:06.780 by all ultra-violent sources of light

01:05:09.060 available even today.

01:05:10.420 He also says that it would require pulses

01:05:13.020 having durations shorter than 1 40 billionth of a second,

01:05:18.100 and that the intensities would have been

01:05:22.560 on the order of several billion watts

01:05:25.880 during this 1 40 billionth of a second.

01:05:29.380 So it's crazy because it says that

01:05:31.980 there is no modern technology available

01:05:33.920 that can produce an image like that

01:05:35.480 of the Shroud of Turin.

01:05:36.680 And so you would suggest maybe

01:05:39.120 to the Christians across the world

01:05:40.880 who have studied these findings,

01:05:42.280 the vertical source of radiation

01:05:44.420 was inarguably divine light

01:05:47.220 caused by Jesus's ascension to heaven.

01:05:50.080 So the cloth itself didn't have something put on it.

01:05:53.280 Okay.

01:05:53.700 And it's not burn marks.

01:05:55.160 It's not scorch marks that's left from the body,

01:05:57.420 but they're basically saying

01:05:58.940 a 3 trillion watt ultraviolet lightning bolt

01:06:02.100 just went in the blink of an eye

01:06:03.780 and he's gone.

01:06:04.540 And this is the image that's left.

01:06:06.080 And again, when you look at the cloth,

01:06:07.620 it didn't change the color.

01:06:08.960 It changed the status of the material.

01:06:12.000 Have you guys,

01:06:12.480 have you guys ever thought about that,

01:06:13.880 that kind of a phenomenon, right?

01:06:15.660 Where you have a light shining down,

01:06:17.800 bringing something up.

01:06:18.800 Sounds a lot like UFOs

01:06:20.900 that the abduction phenomenon,

01:06:22.320 they'll pick up the cow, right?

01:06:23.340 With this light.

01:06:24.320 But it sounds way better than that technology.

01:06:27.700 We get into Nephilim death squad

01:06:29.200 that like possibly the aliens are fallen angels

01:06:32.760 or Nephilim types

01:06:34.320 and they're recreating the technology that they have.

01:06:37.320 It might be outdated technology at this point.

01:06:39.540 Well, what I was thinking about was,

01:06:42.940 and I'm retarded,

01:06:44.080 so this might not even be true.

01:06:45.620 But there's this idea that

01:06:47.760 when a sperm penetrates an egg,

01:06:50.700 there is an inexplicable flash of light.

01:06:53.140 Yep.

01:06:53.440 That nobody has any fucking reason for.

01:06:56.520 Nobody can identify why this happens.

01:06:58.100 Nobody identifies where it comes from.

01:06:59.400 I was just telling,

01:07:00.380 we were talking yesterday about like the IVF thing

01:07:02.480 and Trump approving IVF for everybody.

01:07:05.380 And I was studying it and I was watching.

01:07:07.940 It's crazy.

01:07:08.800 You can watch the sperm fly right into the egg

01:07:10.760 time after time.

01:07:11.660 And when it implants,

01:07:12.520 there is like a flicker.

01:07:14.100 There's a flash of light.

01:07:14.920 Now that's on a microscopic level, right?

01:07:17.180 Like that's a microscopic level.

01:07:18.840 What happens when life re-enters the body

01:07:20.680 of a full grown male?

01:07:22.020 Yeah.

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01:08:52.260 Well, that's where my mind is going.

01:08:54.920 I'm like, what happens

01:08:55.860 when you introduce the miracle of life,

01:08:58.600 a soul enters a body,

01:09:00.020 but it is a body of a 30-year-old man?

01:09:03.960 Well, if you really look into that

01:09:05.900 even a little bit more

01:09:06.780 as far as the tiny little flash of light

01:09:10.120 whenever that sperm meets the egg,

01:09:12.320 other people have also done other studies

01:09:14.980 trying to recreate that

01:09:16.920 without the sperm in the egg.

01:09:18.600 And this is where it gets fucking wild, dude,

01:09:21.100 is that whenever you have

01:09:22.700 like a little droplet of water

01:09:24.560 or a little droplet of some kind of liquid,

01:09:28.020 that if you penetrate sound

01:09:30.500 into that little droplet of water,

01:09:33.380 a flash of light occurs.

01:09:34.860 So you could say that this was,

01:09:39.520 I mean, maybe the soul,

01:09:41.400 the consciousness or whatever

01:09:42.540 is almost spoken into existence.

01:09:45.880 The word made flesh?

01:09:47.380 Exactly.

01:09:48.540 Wow.

01:09:48.940 You know, I'm a big fan of frequency.

01:09:50.480 I play guitar,

01:09:51.500 a big musician guy,

01:09:53.240 and that's kind of what got me into conspiracy.

01:09:55.380 When I started to,

01:09:57.000 I took a class about,

01:09:58.820 geez, what's it called?

01:10:00.380 Like perfect pitch.

01:10:01.520 And the guy was teaching you relative pitch.

01:10:03.560 So he's like, if you can internalize the C note,

01:10:05.660 then you can kind of predict

01:10:06.640 everything that comes before and after.

01:10:08.500 But I noticed that his voice was very like,

01:10:11.000 it was almost hypnotizing.

01:10:13.120 He was fully aware of the pitch

01:10:15.160 that was coming out of his mind.

01:10:16.340 And that served as like a form of mind control.

01:10:19.180 So from there, I'm like,

01:10:19.940 I'm obsessed with frequency.

01:10:21.220 What can I learn about it?

01:10:22.780 What is it doing?

01:10:23.780 Why does it manipulate people?

01:10:25.020 And then you get into the Tesla rabbit hole

01:10:26.600 where he's like,

01:10:27.200 if you want to understand

01:10:28.300 the secrets of the universe,

01:10:29.640 you have to understand vibration,

01:10:31.440 frequency, and...

01:10:32.340 And something else.

01:10:34.300 Energy.

01:10:34.540 There were three important things.

01:10:35.460 Energy, frequency, vibration.

01:10:37.260 Oh, I was going to say resonance,

01:10:38.420 but all right, that too.

01:10:39.520 I mean, that's just,

01:10:40.520 I think there's something there, right?

01:10:42.140 You're talking,

01:10:42.440 because I've heard the same thing

01:10:43.420 about a bubble underwater.

01:10:45.400 I think if a bubble pops,

01:10:46.880 there's like an inexplicable flash of light

01:10:48.780 surrounding that too.

01:10:50.360 And there's just something,

01:10:51.420 it seems to be,

01:10:53.100 you know,

01:10:53.380 I think that's why it's so important.

01:10:56.060 There's something hidden in that,

01:10:57.520 that we don't understand.

01:10:58.600 You know,

01:10:58.780 maybe you need like an alchemist to understand it,

01:11:00.560 but the word made flesh,

01:11:02.280 like there's something about that.

01:11:04.340 If everything is energy,

01:11:07.660 frequency, and vibration,

01:11:09.580 and words are sound,

01:11:11.780 and sound is energy and vibration,

01:11:14.120 then that is,

01:11:15.900 there's something,

01:11:16.920 there's a bridge there to light.

01:11:18.380 You know what I mean?

01:11:19.060 There's a bridge.

01:11:19.760 That's why Jonathan reads,

01:11:21.340 you read that out actively

01:11:22.760 before you perform hypnosis on someone.

01:11:26.340 Right.

01:11:26.560 It's like the whole induction method.

01:11:29.020 Is there,

01:11:29.300 is there a way,

01:11:30.040 I hate to go back to it,

01:11:31.060 but is there a way that you are cadencing words

01:11:33.100 or are you like hitting certain inflections?

01:11:35.720 You're very aware of that at least.

01:11:37.280 Of course.

01:11:37.940 Yeah.

01:11:38.160 You have to,

01:11:39.160 it's,

01:11:39.740 it's kind of like how women like to say,

01:11:42.120 it's not what you said,

01:11:43.060 it's how you say it.

01:11:44.320 Right.

01:11:44.780 Like that whole kind of thing.

01:11:46.320 And that's actually really true.

01:11:47.880 And then you also apply NLP,

01:11:50.260 which is known as neuro-linguistic programming.

01:11:52.260 So now instead of saying what you want somebody to see,

01:11:56.620 you're suggesting it.

01:11:58.480 And that suggestion allows them,

01:12:00.880 because everybody is this way.

01:12:02.700 We're all a little bit rebellious in our own mind.

01:12:05.520 If somebody tells you to do something,

01:12:07.260 you're like,

01:12:07.580 fuck you,

01:12:08.040 you go do it.

01:12:08.700 Right.

01:12:09.240 But if somebody suggests that like,

01:12:11.440 oh,

01:12:11.600 this could be the outcome.

01:12:12.740 If you did this,

01:12:13.720 you don't have to do it.

01:12:14.480 It's up to you kind of deal.

01:12:15.880 You might be a little bit more open to it.

01:12:17.500 So that's why the whole suggestibility really works

01:12:20.340 whenever you're in a hypnotic state.

01:12:23.040 And so like,

01:12:23.800 think about it like this.

01:12:24.540 I always like to kind of preface it like this.

01:12:27.700 So there are four stages of awakeness,

01:12:31.820 right?

01:12:32.280 So,

01:12:32.700 or just four stages of consciousness in general.

01:12:35.000 So you have beta,

01:12:36.840 which is like conversation right now.

01:12:38.600 You're fully aware there.

01:12:39.980 You're,

01:12:40.380 you know where you're at.

01:12:41.200 We're in beta.

01:12:41.800 Like that's the brainwave state that we're currently in right now.

01:12:44.860 Whenever you turn on the TV,

01:12:46.060 or maybe even the people that are listening to this podcast right now,

01:12:48.780 you might fall into what is known as the alpha brain,

01:12:51.900 brainwave state,

01:12:53.200 which is a light trance.

01:12:54.980 And this is why so many people,

01:12:56.240 they watch CNN,

01:12:57.220 they watch Fox news.

01:12:58.360 They're falling into a literal light trance.

01:13:01.260 And this was proven by the way,

01:13:03.140 by some scientists,

01:13:04.440 I don't know,

01:13:04.800 back in the sixties or fifties or something like that,

01:13:07.280 where they would hook up a bunch of like brain nodes onto your head.

01:13:10.900 And it's monitoring all,

01:13:12.680 all your brainwaves.

01:13:13.760 Right.

01:13:14.020 And they did it to like,

01:13:15.140 like 50 to a hundred people just to try and test this theory out.

01:13:19.980 And what they did was they made all of those people sit down on a couch and watch a TV.

01:13:24.900 There wasn't a single person that had these brain nodes hooked up to their head that could

01:13:31.100 watch that TV for more than 60 seconds without falling into the alpha state of mind or a light

01:13:37.680 trance.

01:13:38.120 So you're literally being hypnotized at times when you don't even know you're being hypnotized.

01:13:44.040 And so,

01:13:44.760 so that's the alpha and that's just a light trance.

01:13:47.100 It's not like you're full on MK ultra or anything like that,

01:13:49.560 but you're suggestible at that point.

01:13:51.320 You have a child.

01:13:53.580 Have you ever had a kid?

01:13:54.980 You're,

01:13:55.200 they're watching Paul patrol or something like that.

01:13:57.300 They leave the room and then you realize your ass is watching Paul patrol.

01:14:01.180 They you're the only one in the room.

01:14:02.800 Why are you doing that?

01:14:03.820 Because you without knowing it fell into a light trance as human minds are one to do

01:14:09.260 whenever the television's on.

01:14:10.680 I'm very aware of that.

01:14:11.960 Like my,

01:14:12.440 I have two kids.

01:14:13.420 So it's they're watching the shit.

01:14:15.300 And sometimes like I'm watching from the outside perspective,

01:14:17.940 because I'm trying not to fall into that brainwave pattern,

01:14:20.240 but I'm like,

01:14:21.460 what are they doing?

01:14:22.200 I'm also a graphic designer.

01:14:23.200 So I'm paying attention.

01:14:23.900 What are they doing?

01:14:24.640 Oh,

01:14:24.820 there's a scene change every three seconds,

01:14:26.760 especially with the 3d stuff,

01:14:28.100 the way that it's like curved and lighted and rendered.

01:14:30.260 I'm like,

01:14:30.740 there's some trickery going on here that children can't look past.

01:14:33.940 I,

01:14:34.220 it's hard for me and I work in the field,

01:14:36.200 but I still sort of see it.

01:14:38.700 You know,

01:14:39.040 there's a reason why I will not let my children watch Cocoa melon.

01:14:42.920 Yeah.

01:14:43.400 That's on there is absolutely bad.

01:14:46.200 I don't even know what the concept of the show is.

01:14:48.220 I just know the,

01:14:49.600 the ingredients that go into it.

01:14:51.180 And it's all about that flicker rate.

01:14:52.900 And the reason why they have that such extreme flicker rate is because they know that the more frames that they can put in to their show is only lulling you into a deeper form of hypnosis.

01:15:05.900 So I believe that there's like three or five frames per second in that,

01:15:11.620 uh,

01:15:11.980 in that cartoon or whatever.

01:15:13.220 Right.

01:15:13.880 They change scenes every,

01:15:14.980 like I've clocked it.

01:15:15.780 The longest I could see for one picture was six seconds.

01:15:18.760 Yeah.

01:15:19.020 Wow.

01:15:19.380 A whole nother one swapped it to a whole nother one.

01:15:21.800 And at first I was thinking,

01:15:22.980 okay,

01:15:23.240 that's just keeping the child's attention.

01:15:25.020 I understand that.

01:15:25.800 But then it's like,

01:15:26.580 wait a minute.

01:15:28.040 They're keeping the child's attention engineeredly.

01:15:31.320 And I have a problem with that.

01:15:32.560 And it's not just that they're keeping the attention.

01:15:34.260 It's like,

01:15:34.600 uh,

01:15:35.080 what you used to do was train a child's attention span to be able to pay attention to long,

01:15:40.360 meaningful stories,

01:15:41.280 right.

01:15:41.560 With like morality and ethics and all these different things.

01:15:44.260 Now you,

01:15:45.440 instead,

01:15:45.940 what you've done is you just put a cast on their attention span and you're ensuring that they're never going to have to develop one beyond eight seconds worth of a loop because everything that they're watching,

01:15:54.480 everything they're being fed is being catered to the,

01:15:56.860 the,

01:15:57.120 the mind of a child.

01:15:58.120 And as they develop,

01:15:59.340 their mind is not going to develop.

01:16:00.700 It's a plot against podcasting.

01:16:02.560 I'm telling you,

01:16:03.140 man,

01:16:03.340 that's exactly how this beautiful information for our children.

01:16:05.800 They're like,

01:16:06.020 I can't pay attention for longer than 30 seconds.

01:16:08.220 These guys suck.

01:16:09.040 It's not chaotic enough.

01:16:09.840 You know what?

01:16:10.200 As I'm,

01:16:11.200 the more we do this podcast,

01:16:12.880 the more I'm,

01:16:14.020 I'm realizing the importance of your words,

01:16:15.940 right?

01:16:16.160 Because if you can lull people into a sort of trance with your words,

01:16:20.300 uh,

01:16:20.800 and you can alter their,

01:16:22.420 their brain waves so that they're in beta.

01:16:24.320 Now they're an alpha.

01:16:25.420 They're in a flow state.

01:16:26.340 They're in a conversation state,

01:16:27.420 whatever the case may be.

01:16:28.900 Um,

01:16:30.020 it really rings true.

01:16:31.280 Then the sentiments of actually who we're going to be talking to shortly,

01:16:34.480 Ed Mabry,

01:16:35.240 uh,

01:16:35.900 who does our book of revelation series with us.

01:16:38.260 And he says that,

01:16:39.300 um,

01:16:40.500 the way to engage in spiritual warfare is with speech.

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01:17:14.500 And it's like,

01:17:15.440 if we're being subjected constantly to spiritual warfare,

01:17:18.460 whether or not we're actually aware of it,

01:17:20.640 uh,

01:17:21.220 and the,

01:17:22.540 the way to combat or to fight back or defend ourselves is with our words,

01:17:27.740 then we should probably be extra careful and pick the things that we say.

01:17:32.980 Um,

01:17:33.420 and the,

01:17:33.920 and the places that our attention goes,

01:17:35.600 you know,

01:17:35.980 it's like,

01:17:36.360 that is the subtleties of spiritual warfare.

01:17:38.660 You think that it is,

01:17:40.280 you know,

01:17:40.780 always going to be sleep paralysis or always something that looks like an alien abduction phenomenon or always some sort of demand.

01:17:46.260 No,

01:17:47.060 it's the things that you give your attention to the things that you say,

01:17:50.660 the,

01:17:50.920 the,

01:17:51.220 the,

01:17:51.520 the words that you put out into the world,

01:17:53.740 uh,

01:17:54.020 that's engaging in spiritual warfare.

01:17:56.600 Well,

01:17:56.700 words are symbols.

01:17:58.240 And although a lot of people don't want to agree with that,

01:18:01.840 or they might just say,

01:18:02.580 ah,

01:18:02.860 okay,

01:18:03.180 symbols,

01:18:03.740 whatever.

01:18:04.300 Whenever you look up at that McDonald's sign,

01:18:06.600 whenever you're passing it on the freeway,

01:18:08.920 you're not just seeing a giant M with a red bar at the bottom in your mind.

01:18:14.520 When you see that symbol,

01:18:15.540 you're thinking of McNuggets.

01:18:17.140 You know what I'm saying?

01:18:17.640 You're thinking of those delicious fries,

01:18:19.200 a big Mac,

01:18:19.860 a double cheeseburger,

01:18:20.820 maybe,

01:18:21.160 uh,

01:18:21.960 uh,

01:18:22.300 like a fudge sundae or something like that.

01:18:24.440 So it incorporates so much information into that tiny,

01:18:28.160 just M symbol.

01:18:29.620 And they know this.

01:18:30.780 And,

01:18:31.220 and also like even bringing it to like a political realm.

01:18:34.060 We've talked,

01:18:34.880 uh,

01:18:35.120 like at like extent,

01:18:37.100 like talking about,

01:18:38.640 um,

01:18:39.120 the,

01:18:40.180 uh,

01:18:40.460 what is it called?

01:18:41.060 Project Mockingbird.

01:18:42.180 Right.

01:18:42.620 And so you,

01:18:43.280 you,

01:18:43.580 you're even still seeing it today.

01:18:45.540 Whenever you,

01:18:46.680 you,

01:18:47.140 uh,

01:18:47.560 you hear anybody talk about Kamala Harris,

01:18:49.740 for example,

01:18:50.760 they always,

01:18:51.940 somebody said,

01:18:52.960 and somebody,

01:18:53.840 somebody said this thing talking about how joyful she is.

01:18:56.780 Or she's so full of joy.

01:18:58.020 Right.

01:18:58.940 Somebody saw that.

01:18:59.880 And they were like,

01:19:00.280 you know what?

01:19:00.660 That's fucking good.

01:19:01.560 And we're going to run with that.

01:19:02.720 And everybody started saying it.

01:19:04.820 You can notice what it was a couple of weeks ago.

01:19:06.360 It was weird.

01:19:07.440 Yeah.

01:19:07.580 Anybody who's it's weird.

01:19:08.720 That's so weird.

01:19:09.520 It's like a bunch of like boomers on TV saying like,

01:19:12.120 that's weird.

01:19:12.700 That's weird behavior.

01:19:13.520 And it's like,

01:19:13.880 this is literally being engineered.

01:19:15.220 It's Mockingbird media,

01:19:16.340 but yeah,

01:19:16.640 yeah,

01:19:17.200 absolutely.

01:19:18.080 And so then you saw a hundred different,

01:19:20.840 you know,

01:19:21.360 news analysts or news anchors or whatever,

01:19:23.500 just constantly repeat the same old thing.

01:19:26.340 It's,

01:19:26.700 it's full of joy.

01:19:27.480 And what they're doing right there is that they're building the symbol of Kamala.

01:19:33.040 They're trying to encompass literally the word joy.

01:19:36.720 Whenever you think of Kamala Harris,

01:19:39.080 it instantly goes.

01:19:40.980 She's so full of joy.

01:19:42.240 That's who I want to vote for.

01:19:43.880 Never mind how crazy it is.

01:19:45.620 Drunk.

01:19:45.960 I had told my friend Clint,

01:19:48.140 this dude,

01:19:48.520 Clint of Liberty Lockdown.

01:19:49.640 He's like big in the political commentary space.

01:19:52.760 And I was talking with him on my other show.

01:19:54.700 And I was just like,

01:19:55.400 I can see why people vote for Kamala.

01:19:57.560 And he's like,

01:19:57.820 I can't see it at all.

01:19:58.900 I don't understand.

01:19:59.980 I'm like,

01:20:00.260 no,

01:20:00.420 there is like an impressionability.

01:20:02.020 And I know people who will be impressionable to what they're feeding.

01:20:06.000 And why they would like her.

01:20:07.480 Like not necessarily like as like a human emotion,

01:20:10.280 but superficial,

01:20:11.480 right?

01:20:11.980 Like this thing.

01:20:12.540 Oh,

01:20:12.780 I like this.

01:20:13.480 And then they're telling you what it is.

01:20:14.840 It's like when I talked to my niece,

01:20:15.880 my niece is 20 years old.

01:20:17.180 I said,

01:20:17.800 after the,

01:20:18.760 you know,

01:20:19.000 Trump assassination attempt,

01:20:20.260 whatever the hell that was,

01:20:21.040 I go,

01:20:21.520 I think this dude's got it in the bag.

01:20:22.820 I think he's going to win.

01:20:23.500 She goes,

01:20:23.880 really?

01:20:24.220 I think Kamala is going to win.

01:20:25.740 And I looked over and I said,

01:20:26.740 really?

01:20:27.380 And you realize you run in like two different circles and she's 20 years old.

01:20:30.220 She's attached to Tik TOK and Tik TOK is creating the narrative.

01:20:34.440 They're,

01:20:34.800 they're building this character.

01:20:35.880 They are to your point,

01:20:37.280 Jonathan,

01:20:37.580 they're creating a symbol and they're,

01:20:39.240 you know,

01:20:39.820 engineering all these different word associations with this symbol.

01:20:42.960 And right now,

01:20:44.420 you know,

01:20:44.740 there's a,

01:20:45.160 there's a whole generation of Gen Z kids that are going,

01:20:47.880 yeah,

01:20:48.020 I guess she's going to win.

01:20:49.120 She's the winner,

01:20:49.620 right?

01:20:50.140 Thank you,

01:20:50.660 CCP.

01:20:51.700 Mm-hmm.

01:20:52.420 Right.

01:20:52.900 Well,

01:20:53.080 and regarding that whole symbolism,

01:20:55.320 you know,

01:20:55.560 you,

01:20:55.820 it makes you think like,

01:20:57.380 all right,

01:20:57.740 well,

01:20:57.960 how far does it actually go as far as the occult,

01:21:00.920 like kind of nature with this?

01:21:02.800 Because you're essentially casting spells,

01:21:05.380 but all right,

01:21:06.120 well,

01:21:06.460 what also can you do within black magic that all that has to pertain to like casting spells?

01:21:12.540 And so you also dive into sacrifice,

01:21:15.900 right?

01:21:16.160 And the whole idea of,

01:21:17.700 of sacrificing something is so that you can reap the benefits from said sacrifice.

01:21:21.480 And there was very,

01:21:22.720 there was a very strange anomaly that we actually found like live on one of our shows.

01:21:28.580 We were very curious,

01:21:30.360 you know,

01:21:30.640 so I'm a huge wrestling dork.

01:21:32.160 I love watching wrestling.

01:21:33.620 I have ever since I was a little kid,

01:21:35.100 it's just kind of something that stuck with me.

01:21:36.620 But I remember whenever I was a little kid that there was this old wrestler,

01:21:39.420 his name was Kamala.

01:21:40.540 It was like this fucking Samoan kind of guy or whatever,

01:21:43.340 right?

01:21:43.880 His name was Kamala.

01:21:45.440 And strangely enough,

01:21:47.660 two months before Joe Biden announced that Kamala Harris was his running mate,

01:21:53.500 the old wrestler Kamala dies.

01:21:55.260 And you're like,

01:21:55.760 oh,

01:21:55.940 what a coincidence,

01:21:56.920 right?

01:21:57.380 Well,

01:21:57.640 then we go and do a little bit more digging on as far as this whole,

01:22:00.940 all right,

01:22:01.540 the wrestler Kamala dying,

01:22:03.120 whatever.

01:22:03.520 It's kind of crazy,

01:22:04.300 but you know,

01:22:04.880 it's up for whatever you think.

01:22:06.920 You go and find out what,

01:22:08.600 what Kamala,

01:22:09.560 the wrestler's last name was.

01:22:12.360 Yeah.

01:22:12.920 Yep.

01:22:13.160 His name is fucking Harris,

01:22:15.720 dude.

01:22:16.100 You have Kamala Harris dying two months before she is deemed our vice president for the next four years and possibly our president for the future.

01:22:24.680 And look at how he looks too.

01:22:26.560 He's a,

01:22:26.860 isn't he a good representation of her?

01:22:28.280 I suppose.

01:22:29.040 Isn't he top?

01:22:29.820 Can you go to the images?

01:22:30.560 I believe he has like the top hat.

01:22:31.820 He does a Papa Legba,

01:22:33.020 uh,

01:22:33.520 sort of,

01:22:34.080 uh,

01:22:34.260 an imagery.

01:22:34.980 I think,

01:22:35.840 I know he's like the voodoo guy.

01:22:37.100 Maybe he's not,

01:22:37.600 maybe.

01:22:37.800 Oh,

01:22:38.100 no,

01:22:38.220 no,

01:22:38.420 no.

01:22:39.400 Shango.

01:22:40.040 Uh,

01:22:40.560 that was the guy that did,

01:22:42.160 that did a Papa Legba thing.

01:22:43.780 This dude is just other kind of voodoo.

01:22:45.640 Yeah.

01:22:46.020 The other kind of voodoo.

01:22:46.860 So,

01:22:47.180 I mean,

01:22:47.680 you know,

01:22:48.080 this,

01:22:48.360 this brings me to what we say all the time,

01:22:51.160 which is like at the highest levels,

01:22:52.840 uh,

01:22:53.340 politics is theater,

01:22:54.180 but more specifically it's,

01:22:55.660 it's politics,

01:22:56.620 entertainment,

01:22:57.100 it's sports,

01:22:57.480 entertainment,

01:22:57.780 it's,

01:22:58.060 it's wrestling.

01:22:59.020 Uh,

01:22:59.220 that's what it very,

01:23:00.060 it's fun.

01:23:00.580 It's a lot of fun,

01:23:01.200 but that's what it looks like.

01:23:02.140 Um,

01:23:02.640 from,

01:23:03.060 from my point of view,

01:23:03.600 but I don't want to deviate too much.

01:23:05.220 Cause we only have you guys for about 15 more minutes.

01:23:07.040 And I just kind of wanted to go back to,

01:23:09.160 cause here we are right.

01:23:10.700 2024,

01:23:11.020 all of a sudden we get hit with these findings that the,

01:23:14.340 the,

01:23:14.780 uh,

01:23:15.280 the shroud does in fact date back to roughly 2000 years ago.

01:23:19.920 Uh,

01:23:20.400 and then we have a very strange followup to that,

01:23:22.580 which is AI then generating an image of,

01:23:25.260 of Jesus Christ,

01:23:26.160 uh,

01:23:26.500 based off of its analysis of the shroud,

01:23:28.460 which I am on one hand,

01:23:30.420 um,

01:23:31.560 I'm happy about that information.

01:23:33.440 I go,

01:23:33.560 that's really cool,

01:23:34.360 man.

01:23:34.560 Because when you hear that,

01:23:35.440 especially as a conspiracy theorist or a Christian,

01:23:36.980 you go,

01:23:37.420 this is awesome.

01:23:38.320 You know,

01:23:38.560 this is,

01:23:38.920 I can't wait to look into this.

01:23:39.920 And I love that.

01:23:40.940 This is going to be part of the conversation again.

01:23:42.420 But then all of a sudden,

01:23:43.300 on the other hand,

01:23:43.760 you have,

01:23:44.320 um,

01:23:45.660 AI generating an image of Christ,

01:23:47.440 which is very strange.

01:23:49.240 So,

01:23:49.640 um,

01:23:50.100 let's bring it into modern day,

01:23:52.400 2024.

01:23:53.720 And,

01:23:54.160 and what are your thoughts on this?

01:23:55.700 The fact that it was dated.

01:23:57.020 And then,

01:23:57.580 uh,

01:23:57.760 maybe we can get into this AI thing a little bit.

01:23:59.860 Well,

01:23:59.960 first,

01:24:00.420 before we even get into that,

01:24:01.480 I kind of want to go over just a short little part,

01:24:03.820 as far as the information that was,

01:24:06.120 uh,

01:24:06.340 given out back in 1988,

01:24:07.700 whenever they went to go test it.

01:24:09.420 So there were three laboratories that tried to do carbon dating on this shroud back in 1988.

01:24:14.100 And those three laboratories were in Arizona,

01:24:16.840 Zurich or Zurich,

01:24:18.240 um,

01:24:18.640 and Oxford.

01:24:19.620 They didn't give their,

01:24:21.760 uh,

01:24:22.200 their individual findings,

01:24:23.520 which is very interesting.

01:24:24.700 They didn't give their individual findings.

01:24:26.440 They,

01:24:27.140 uh,

01:24:27.440 they averaged their findings together and they came to the conclusion that the,

01:24:32.460 that the shroud must've been made between the span of years,

01:24:35.420 between 1260 and 1390.

01:24:37.680 Um,

01:24:39.060 so for that,

01:24:40.780 right.

01:24:41.260 Right.

01:24:41.720 And so what really happened is,

01:24:43.420 is that the,

01:24:44.240 the Arizona slide.

01:24:45.540 So there was like a bunch of slides looking under a microscope at this thing and stuff like that.

01:24:49.160 But the Arizona slide,

01:24:50.820 uh,

01:24:51.240 slide one got a date of about 1240 while slide two got an average date of about 1440.

01:24:57.900 So there's 200 years in between literally two centimeters of cloth that they're looking at.

01:25:04.760 And as you move from left to right on the shroud,

01:25:07.380 it goes from older to younger in this,

01:25:09.880 uh,

01:25:10.080 in the space of just a few centimeters.

01:25:11.820 And it's also,

01:25:12.640 it's guessed that the sample of the shroud that they were given was a combination of the first century material along with the 16th century material,

01:25:21.820 because it kept on having to get rewoven every time it would get flooded,

01:25:25.300 every time it would get burned,

01:25:26.460 every time there was a fucking incense burning or something like that.

01:25:29.480 They kept on trying to preserve it by adding new material to it.

01:25:32.600 And so this is why there's such a wide range of possible outcome,

01:25:36.120 but then you get into,

01:25:37.740 all right,

01:25:38.000 the,

01:25:38.240 the blood,

01:25:38.920 the dirt and everything that goes along with it.

01:25:40.940 It,

01:25:41.500 it drawing all the way back to the alleged time of this actually being during Jesus's time.

01:25:47.680 And I don't know.

01:25:49.000 It's with that carbon dating.

01:25:51.140 Keep in mind,

01:25:51.940 1988 carbon dating was still a very new science and there's,

01:25:55.780 it's getting better every day,

01:25:56.940 but it's,

01:25:57.440 it wasn't an exact science back then either.

01:25:59.360 The shroud of Torrin is the most heavily scrutinized and analyzed artifacts on earth to date period,

01:26:06.580 more than any sarcophagus,

01:26:08.420 more than any tomb.

01:26:09.640 The shroud of Torrin has been scientifically analyzed more than them by leaps and bounds.

01:26:13.360 Okay.

01:26:13.920 But the shroud itself,

01:26:15.140 the sample that was sent to Arizona came from near a burnt part.

01:26:19.320 Now they didn't know if that would affect the carbon dating or not,

01:26:22.460 because their thought was,

01:26:23.540 why would it?

01:26:24.160 You mean the spot that had fire,

01:26:26.600 which leaves carbon would dictate a little difference on the carbon dating of the artifact.

01:26:31.700 It's wild.

01:26:32.580 So it was discovered through trial and error that the only way we can get accurate carbon dating of a sample is if we know the whereabouts of the sample for the entire time,

01:26:41.560 from the time it was left to the time we analyze it.

01:26:45.240 So point being,

01:26:46.720 let's say we find some sort of fossilic remains and it has been underground for this long.

01:26:51.320 And we could say beyond a reasonable doubt that it's so far in the soil and we know it's this old.

01:26:56.260 Then we compare that to carbon dating analytics and we can go from there.

01:26:59.640 Now,

01:26:59.840 if you found a sample near a volcano,

01:27:02.400 your guess is as good as mine because of the amount of carbon that's just going to be all over that shit.

01:27:06.440 Right.

01:27:06.660 But now the shroud itself,

01:27:08.260 before we get out of here,

01:27:09.180 I do want to make a mention of how it got from the tomb to Torrin,

01:27:12.500 and it will kind of give a little more credence as to how some of these dates and how some of these times kind of got lost to the records and why it is so quote unquote controversial.

01:27:21.920 All right.

01:27:22.620 So this is a compilation of what personally I believe is the most likely chain of events.

01:27:28.020 There are a few offshoots that certain professionals say,

01:27:30.660 but the most professionals go along this train of thought that I'm saying now.

01:27:33.920 Okay.

01:27:34.420 It was made from Jesus in the tomb and it was brought to Antioch in 70 AD.

01:27:39.720 Antioch is kind of where the newly formed,

01:27:42.860 they wouldn't have called themselves Christians,

01:27:44.540 but that group kind of based their headquarters out of Antioch in 540.

01:27:49.200 When the city was about to be besieged,

01:27:50.980 the patriarch of the church of Antioch sent the shroud to Constantinople.

01:27:54.420 The city was sieged.

01:27:55.640 Then after interesting fact,

01:27:57.220 the church was the only building not burned to the ground in Antioch in that siege cut to five.

01:28:03.100 That was 540 when it was sent to Constantinople.

01:28:05.720 However,

01:28:07.080 it didn't make it there originally.

01:28:09.940 554 AD,

01:28:10.980 that's 14 years later,

01:28:12.400 the shroud appeared in Camuliana.

01:28:14.340 First time that a shroud with an image on it is historically mentioned.

01:28:19.080 Okay.

01:28:19.340 Camuliana 554 AD.

01:28:22.200 Now in 574,

01:28:23.660 it gets to Constantinople and it started to become worshiped on a,

01:28:27.620 on a board.

01:28:28.340 As a matter of fact,

01:28:29.040 in the city mentioned in a letter from the French knight,

01:28:31.820 Robert de Clare who participated in the siege of Constantinople.

01:28:34.800 We'll get to that in a second mentioned it being praised as a holy relic.

01:28:38.600 They took the shroud and they put it on this big board.

01:28:40.620 They laid it out and it was on this mechanism that every Friday afternoon,

01:28:44.800 it would be raised up and the entire city would worship it as a sign of Jesus.

01:28:48.360 And good Friday being died and crucified rose again.

01:28:52.020 They worshiped it for years as a relic,

01:28:54.560 the entire city.

01:28:55.920 Okay.

01:28:56.080 Now we don't know for a fact if this was the shroud of Torin,

01:29:00.140 but we do know that Constantinople was worshiping a cloth that came from Antioch

01:29:05.040 that there's claims to say that it was the shroud.

01:29:07.720 Okay.

01:29:08.220 The shroud was taken by French knights during the siege of Constantinople during

01:29:11.800 the fourth crusade.

01:29:13.120 This,

01:29:13.500 the elites of the city even wrote a letter of complaint to the Pope where they

01:29:17.020 mentioned,

01:29:17.660 quote,

01:29:18.080 the French took the most holy image of Christ in quote.

01:29:21.600 That was in 1204 when the city was sieged.

01:29:24.720 Yes.

01:29:24.980 The crusades didn't set in fact,

01:29:26.780 siege a Christian city.

01:29:28.180 And if you look at the crusaders and what they did,

01:29:29.940 they kind of did that shit a lot.

01:29:31.360 They were making their way to Jerusalem,

01:29:32.920 lost their gumption,

01:29:34.700 settled on Constantinople and decided to siege it.

01:29:36.820 The Venetian hires went after the gold.

01:29:39.720 The French hires went after religious relics.

01:29:42.540 Cut to the next time we hear of a shroud is in the village of Liri,

01:29:46.340 France,

01:29:46.740 and it is owned by a knight of the name of Joffrey de Charney.

01:29:50.140 It is in 1349 claiming that it was freely given to his family.

01:29:55.900 Who's to say or not,

01:29:56.880 but that's about 120 ish,

01:29:59.280 140 ish years after it was last seen in Constantinople in 1204.

01:30:03.960 Then in 1453,

01:30:05.740 Margo de Charney,

01:30:06.760 that would be one of his descendants,

01:30:08.460 deeded the shroud to the house of Savoy.

01:30:10.320 That's the Italian Royal house.

01:30:11.960 She gave it to them for two castles.

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01:30:41.780 She literally sold the Shroud of Torrin

01:30:47.000 to the Italian Royal family for two castles.

01:30:49.760 The Catholic Church was pretty pissed about this

01:30:51.540 and actually excommunicated her for that.

01:30:54.480 It's also worth mentioning here

01:30:55.880 that this is pretty much the last place

01:30:57.900 that we know of it for sure.

01:30:59.560 1578, Emmanuel Filibert, Duke of Savoy,

01:31:02.620 ordered the Shroud be brought to Torrin,

01:31:05.220 where it has remained ever since.

01:31:07.320 During this time,

01:31:08.320 the Italian Royal family of Savoy

01:31:10.120 fell out of power, like I said,

01:31:12.640 or I'm sorry,

01:31:13.060 they started cutting off shreds of it

01:31:15.240 and giving it to people as royal gifts.

01:31:17.740 A royal decree from the House of Savoy,

01:31:20.660 thank you for attending our party.

01:31:22.300 Here's a piece of the holiest of relics

01:31:25.260 that we currently have.

01:31:26.340 You know, no big deal.

01:31:27.920 The House of Savoy fell out of power in 14,

01:31:30.420 I'm sorry, 1946 after World War II.

01:31:32.940 But in 1983,

01:31:34.100 the royal family of Savoy,

01:31:35.820 who was still alive but out of power,

01:31:37.740 gave it as a gift to the Holy See.

01:31:40.120 And they have had ownership of it since 1983,

01:31:43.280 but they still keep it in the Cathedral

01:31:45.760 of St. John the Baptist in Torrin, Italy,

01:31:48.540 where it has remained to this day.

01:31:51.000 And you can go and see it for yourself.

01:31:53.160 All right.

01:31:53.780 I know we're late in the game for this question.

01:31:56.560 And it's okay to tell me no fucking way.

01:31:59.240 We don't have enough time for that.

01:32:00.620 It's your time constraints, brother.

01:32:02.160 I know.

01:32:02.960 Well, I'm saying,

01:32:03.700 if you know it's going to take more than seven minutes.

01:32:05.500 But Dave, Dave, Dave,

01:32:07.080 imagine going to an Eyes Wide Shut party

01:32:08.780 and receiving a Shroud of Torrin little thing.

01:32:10.780 Honestly, I'd be pumped.

01:32:12.060 I'd be like, this is fucking,

01:32:13.220 this is how you treat your guests.

01:32:14.240 I'm not gonna lie.

01:32:15.560 So when we have this image,

01:32:17.560 and, you know,

01:32:18.520 we don't really have to get into it too much,

01:32:19.960 but AI does generate an image of Christ

01:32:22.900 based off of the Shroud.

01:32:24.200 And, you know,

01:32:26.160 it looks very similar to images

01:32:27.700 that have kind of garnered Christian veneration

01:32:30.320 for a long time now.

01:32:31.520 But when it comes to this idea

01:32:34.340 that the modern visage of Christ

01:32:36.980 is actually that of Caesar Borgia,

01:32:39.800 which is, you know,

01:32:42.420 that kind of hurts a lot of feelings

01:32:44.420 when you hear that.

01:32:45.280 But I'm open to the idea, certainly,

01:32:47.700 that at some point the image has been twisted

01:32:50.420 and that we've been venerating

01:32:52.100 the, you know, some dude's son somewhere.

01:32:54.480 But then all of a sudden you look at the Shroud

01:32:56.720 and you go, well,

01:32:57.400 it does maintain a lot of these features.

01:33:00.660 So let me ask you this.

01:33:01.720 Do you remember a couple years back

01:33:03.220 when they took the Egyptian Queen Cleopatra

01:33:06.840 and they took her skeletal remains

01:33:08.940 and they made an AI image of that

01:33:10.300 and she came out to be a white girl

01:33:11.600 that looked like Britney Spears

01:33:12.580 and the internet lost their shit?

01:33:14.060 Yeah.

01:33:14.300 And they didn't realize

01:33:15.380 that Cleopatra was part of the Ptolemaic dynasty.

01:33:18.560 She was white.

01:33:19.680 Her cousin had red hair.

01:33:20.920 She wasn't a king?

01:33:23.140 Oh, wait a minute.

01:33:24.340 Egyptians aren't traditionally black?

01:33:26.520 That's crazy.

01:33:27.200 That comes from sub-Saharan Africa?

01:33:29.080 Wild shit.

01:33:29.880 But like, hey, I'm an asshole for that, I guess.

01:33:31.980 I don't know.

01:33:32.780 Racist.

01:33:33.660 To your point,

01:33:34.340 we have been seeing this image of Jesus,

01:33:36.180 this white guy with blue eyes

01:33:38.020 and these curly locks,

01:33:39.240 and that's been the image

01:33:40.340 that was clearly a Borgia.

01:33:42.580 Well, and also going on top of that, too,

01:33:44.920 is that you see throughout the years,

01:33:47.200 and this could be argued.

01:33:48.740 It's just my own kind of understanding,

01:33:52.420 which is why I don't really claim a religion.

01:33:55.320 I just like to garner, you know,

01:33:57.720 the spiritual aspects of it.

01:34:00.420 But, and so one weird thing is,

01:34:03.120 is that somebody speculated

01:34:04.460 that the reason why his name

01:34:06.840 was changed to Jesus Christ,

01:34:08.660 and you start to see, you know,

01:34:10.680 pictures of Caesar Borgia

01:34:12.040 that was probably, what was it,

01:34:13.360 Michelangelo's fucking boyfriend

01:34:14.980 or something like that, right?

01:34:17.140 And you start to see that

01:34:18.880 through, like, magic in the occult

01:34:21.420 that you can essentially incorporate

01:34:22.900 the energy of somebody in the past.

01:34:25.800 You know, we had done an episode

01:34:27.220 not that long ago

01:34:28.200 about how Saddam Hussein

01:34:29.980 really believed that he was

01:34:31.080 the reincarnation of King Nebuchadnezzar.

01:34:33.320 Yep.

01:34:33.540 Right.

01:34:34.140 And so you're essentially,

01:34:35.120 you're trying to take on that energy

01:34:36.840 by claiming, look,

01:34:38.200 I'm the reincarnation of that,

01:34:39.600 so you're developing that thought process.

01:34:41.180 It's a weird, like, subconscious kind of thing

01:34:43.480 that you can have, you know,

01:34:45.940 different personalities enter into you.

01:34:48.200 Some may call that schizophrenia.

01:34:50.040 But that being said,

01:34:51.680 you would try and take on

01:34:52.940 maybe the certain powers.

01:34:54.440 And some have speculated

01:34:55.480 that the whole reason why

01:34:57.060 maybe Jesus' name changed

01:34:59.060 from Yeshua to Jesus,

01:35:00.820 to Jesus Christ specifically,

01:35:03.060 is because of the old boy

01:35:06.840 who was king during a certain period, right?

01:35:09.600 And that's where it gets into Julius Caesar,

01:35:11.440 the JC right there.

01:35:12.940 So I'm not saying that Julius Caesar

01:35:14.840 was trying to incorporate

01:35:15.940 the energy of Jesus Christ

01:35:17.580 and have all the people

01:35:19.140 of all the land worship him

01:35:20.960 as though he is maybe the reincarnation.

01:35:23.380 It's just a speculative thought.

01:35:25.960 But, you know,

01:35:26.960 some people will always say,

01:35:28.360 like, LeBron James,

01:35:29.440 always calling himself the king.

01:35:31.120 He's always calling himself

01:35:32.300 the greatest of all time.

01:35:33.540 Like, you think of,

01:35:34.600 like, these terms

01:35:35.620 that we give everybody,

01:35:37.600 that these are symbols.

01:35:38.480 These are things

01:35:40.240 that you can assign

01:35:41.280 to that person's character.

01:35:43.160 So now, whenever you think of LeBron,

01:35:45.840 you think, oh, King James?

01:35:47.220 Oh, you mean King James

01:35:48.060 that wrote the Bible?

01:35:48.920 And so these things,

01:35:50.080 they start to stack up

01:35:51.060 on top of each other

01:35:51.900 in the subconscious mind.

01:35:53.680 I'm going to say this, though.

01:35:54.580 If you ever see an image of Jesus

01:35:55.920 and he's hot,

01:35:57.300 that's an incorrect image.

01:35:58.480 I'm sorry.

01:35:58.900 He was a Jew.

01:35:59.760 He was from Nazareth.

01:36:00.840 Big nose, curly hair,

01:36:01.980 sucked at sports.

01:36:02.660 That's him.

01:36:03.120 That's the guy.

01:36:03.760 That's the dude.

01:36:04.420 He was a carpenter

01:36:05.140 before power tools.

01:36:06.440 Your boy was like yoked,

01:36:07.720 but not like

01:36:08.680 hitting the gym yoked.

01:36:09.980 I'm talking like

01:36:10.500 workable weight yoked.

01:36:11.780 Like, that was a guy.

01:36:12.780 He was your boy, you know?

01:36:14.080 He probably had

01:36:14.420 incredible grip strength.

01:36:15.720 Oh, no, he did, yeah.

01:36:17.000 Have you guys ever heard

01:36:19.420 of the work of

01:36:19.980 Dr. Jerry Marzinski?

01:36:21.960 No.

01:36:22.260 No, I haven't.

01:36:23.100 Okay.

01:36:23.800 That's an interesting rabbit hole

01:36:25.260 that I think you guys

01:36:26.120 should go down

01:36:26.840 where he's a licensed

01:36:28.920 psychotherapist,

01:36:29.800 but he doesn't think

01:36:31.100 schizophrenia is

01:36:32.300 a mental disorder

01:36:33.420 or hallucinations.

01:36:34.400 He thinks it's

01:36:35.620 actually entities.

01:36:37.740 And you had mentioned

01:36:39.020 that just before,

01:36:40.060 just briefly,

01:36:40.620 and I'm like,

01:36:40.960 oh, they would get

01:36:41.740 a kick out of

01:36:42.480 all of his work

01:36:43.320 if you guys...

01:36:44.360 Yeah, we should pass

01:36:45.060 along his information

01:36:46.720 because I think you guys

01:36:47.500 would have a lot of fun

01:36:48.120 with him.

01:36:48.740 Hell yeah.

01:36:49.320 I would love that.

01:36:50.540 Well, look, guys,

01:36:51.580 this is where we landed.

01:36:52.960 You guys absolutely

01:36:53.820 fucking crushed.

01:36:54.860 Thank you so much

01:36:55.640 for your time.

01:36:56.100 Before we get out of here,

01:36:57.720 can you just once again

01:36:59.260 let everybody know

01:37:00.100 where they can find

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01:37:13.900 unfortunately,

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01:37:20.460 able to even recreate

01:37:22.160 a YouTube channel

01:37:23.200 because I believe

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01:37:26.540 Yeah.

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01:37:41.740 And yeah,

01:37:42.680 we like to have

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01:37:44.960 Every Tuesday night

01:37:46.260 we go live

01:37:46.960 with all of our cult members

01:37:47.960 on the third eye

01:37:48.620 all the way open tier.

01:37:49.840 As a matter of fact,

01:37:50.780 just this past Tuesday

01:37:51.680 we hosted

01:37:52.700 the presidential debate

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01:37:54.860 were all watching it

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01:38:00.600 And yeah,

01:38:01.660 definitely come check us out.

01:38:02.980 We are hitting on

01:38:04.000 a wide range

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01:38:05.940 and all different philosophies.

01:38:07.380 It's always a great time.

01:38:08.520 So we appreciate you guys

01:38:10.000 having us on here, dude.

01:38:10.840 This was a blast.

01:38:12.120 Also, if you like

01:38:12.740 metaphysical things

01:38:13.900 and you like hearing

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01:38:18.220 on Meta Mysteries

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01:38:22.180 the ethereal,

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01:38:23.800 the off the beaten path

01:38:25.320 type of information.

01:38:26.200 And also Cajun Knight

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01:38:33.540 And I think I might do

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01:38:35.620 later on.

01:38:36.460 I'm not sure to what level

01:38:37.480 but go check me out on that.

01:38:38.760 It just launched.

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01:38:41.600 all the subscribes

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01:38:43.420 As far as socials,

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01:38:48.000 You can just find us

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01:38:50.080 You guys aren't on Twitter

01:38:50.960 at all?

01:38:52.140 We have one.

01:38:53.500 I'm in charge of it

01:38:54.400 and I suck at it.

01:38:55.540 So I want to be more active.

01:38:57.140 I literally just quit my job

01:38:58.340 two weeks ago

01:38:58.960 to do this full time

01:39:00.360 because we finally

01:39:00.940 got to that point.

01:39:01.980 So we are going to get

01:39:03.200 so many more wheels rolling

01:39:04.440 here in the next few weeks

01:39:05.340 but now it sucks.

01:39:07.120 Get your Twitter up.

01:39:08.520 I have a decent following

01:39:09.620 on there.

01:39:10.160 So I try to help people

01:39:11.280 that are,

01:39:12.580 for some reason,

01:39:13.320 Instagram game,

01:39:14.200 very strong.

01:39:14.920 Twitter,

01:39:15.920 they're not paying attention

01:39:16.680 but honestly,

01:39:17.360 that's where the dialogue

01:39:18.100 is going on.

01:39:18.740 So yeah,

01:39:20.440 hit me up, man.

01:39:21.160 I love to,

01:39:21.700 I'll put notifications on,

01:39:22.860 retweet you,

01:39:23.520 get your stuff out there.

01:39:24.720 Thank you, dude.

01:39:25.960 Guys,

01:39:27.200 wait real quick.

01:39:28.020 Let's just do a quick announcement

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01:39:59.480 And we're closing in October,

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01:40:02.420 All right, Dave,

01:40:02.900 stop grifting.

01:40:03.440 They got to go.

01:40:04.100 See you later, guys.

01:40:04.600 All right, all right.

01:40:05.020 Peace.

01:40:05.320 The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth

01:40:07.940 is a oblong box in the corner of the room.

01:40:11.680 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

01:40:15.420 If you can persuade them

01:40:16.900 that what they see with their eyes

01:40:18.940 is what there is to see,

01:40:20.520 you've got them.

01:40:21.020 because they'll laugh in the face

01:40:23.840 of an explanation

01:40:25.160 that portrays the bigger picture

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Nephilim Death Squad - September 16, 2024

057： The Shroud of Turin w⧸ Cult of Conspiracy

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