Nephilim Death Squad - September 26, 2024


061: MH370 & Free Energy w⧸ Ashton Forbes


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 15 minutes

Words per Minute

191.22636

Word Count

14,465

Sentence Count

992

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

In this episode of the Death Squad, David Lee Corbo talks to Ashton Forbes, a leading researcher in the field of Zero Point Energy, about the mysterious disappearance of flight MH370 and the theories surrounding what could have happened to it.


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00:01:50.440 Seems like when I dig back, you get to the Manhattan Project
00:01:56.460 and the Philadelphia Experiment, and that's where a lot of this stuff begins.
00:02:00.040 It makes me wonder if when we discovered the atomic bomb, the atomic energy,
00:02:04.220 it's like there was two sides to the coin, and we only got to see one of them.
00:02:07.920 And the other side was not only can this coin itself and the mass in this coin
00:02:12.020 have a huge amount of energy that we can release out of it,
00:02:14.580 but we can just pull the energy straight out of the vacuum.
00:02:18.140 So you don't even need the coin anymore.
00:02:19.520 And it felt like we decided, no, that's too scary, that's too dangerous, this can't get out.
00:02:25.420 But then you also have this idea of, well, this opens the door to a lot of physics
00:02:29.540 that we consider to be impossible.
00:02:32.300 Warp drives, wormholes, which is an Einstein-Rosen bridge,
00:02:37.140 anything that requires negative energy that's already been solved out there.
00:02:41.240 And so then you wonder, okay, this technology, like there's something called the Kardashev scale,
00:02:46.700 which says like your civilization is going to become like a type one civilization if you can use all the power from your son.
00:02:51.960 The type of technology related to zero point energy completely obsoletes the whole scale.
00:02:57.380 We are being hypnotized by people like this.
00:03:03.680 News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.
00:03:08.660 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
00:03:16.320 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely true.
00:03:22.940 Oh, yeah, dude.
00:03:24.160 There's some Nephilim shit.
00:03:25.320 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen,
00:03:53.480 to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.
00:03:57.020 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.
00:04:00.440 That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.
00:04:04.180 And we are joined today by our guest, Ashton Forbes.
00:04:08.560 Ashton, if you could, for the audience,
00:04:11.000 please let everyone know a little bit about what it is you focus on and where they can find your work.
00:04:16.300 Awesome.
00:04:16.800 Happy to meet you guys, both Raven, Top Lobster.
00:04:19.340 It's a pleasure to be here.
00:04:20.120 Thank you for your audience for having me on.
00:04:21.400 I'm Ashton Forbes, also known as Ashton Four Orbs, as you see up here.
00:04:25.940 Because of my work, I call myself an investigator because I don't really believe in experts or anything like that.
00:04:31.360 But I do think that I am the world's number one leading researcher related to the MH370 videos,
00:04:39.640 which have become very popular over the last year.
00:04:43.100 You can see there's actually a superimposed image there, this way, of the plane from the videos over the top of MH370 as it was taking off.
00:04:53.960 And you can see just from that alone that we have this exact silhouette match of this plane that we saw.
00:05:00.320 So I've been looking into these videos that re-emerged on social media last year.
00:05:04.860 They've been around since right after the plane disappeared.
00:05:07.140 I've been trying to find ways to prove that the videos are real.
00:05:12.260 I started asking this question, what if these videos are real?
00:05:16.160 How would that be possible?
00:05:17.820 And that took me down this rabbit hole of researching the missing plane, researching the science around what we see around these orbs.
00:05:25.120 And what I found out is it's all real.
00:05:27.920 Like the whole mystery of this plane makes no sense at all.
00:05:31.240 There's obviously a cover-up at play.
00:05:33.360 You have to wonder, like, what would be big enough to cover up a commercial airliner disappearing?
00:05:38.000 And then you look into this science, which really boils down to zero-point energy.
00:05:42.580 And you realize, like, this is huge.
00:05:44.980 Like, this is something like out of the movies where it's like we're hiding free energy from the world.
00:05:49.880 And free energy is connected to gravity manipulation.
00:05:54.120 There's all these scientists and engineers who have been talking about it for decades and decades and decades.
00:05:58.440 And the world has just ignored it.
00:06:00.460 So now I feel like I'm in the middle of this movie playing out, which is my life right now.
00:06:04.680 You know, interviewing people like you guys and other people.
00:06:07.200 I was recently on with Candace Owens.
00:06:08.840 I think that interview is going to drop pretty soon.
00:06:11.300 And I'm just wondering, like, where is this going to lead?
00:06:14.820 You know, we have so many problems in the world right now.
00:06:17.200 And there's so much disinformation and misinformation.
00:06:22.100 And people are being brainwashed all the time.
00:06:25.120 And it just makes me wonder, like, I don't know how this journey even ends.
00:06:28.840 So we're just going to get to the conclusion of it.
00:06:31.220 And we'll see what happens.
00:06:32.580 So thank you guys for having me.
00:06:33.900 You know, when we first started this show about a year ago.
00:06:36.940 Exactly a year ago, right?
00:06:38.000 Like a couple days ago, a year ago.
00:06:39.640 And you were just popping up with your research.
00:06:42.460 And I followed you.
00:06:43.240 You had maybe, like, 15,000, 20,000 followers.
00:06:46.180 And I reached out.
00:06:47.920 I said, hey, man, I love the work you're doing.
00:06:50.020 And then I saw you get swarmed.
00:06:51.580 So I was like, okay, let's take a step back.
00:06:53.800 Let me see what's going on with this story.
00:06:56.360 Let Ashton get all of his ducks in a row.
00:06:58.380 I know you've been on my boy Clint's podcast.
00:07:00.760 You've probably been on Luke Rutkowski's show.
00:07:03.200 And you did the whole round.
00:07:05.160 And there's fascinating information here.
00:07:07.220 And now, look, like, your following has skyrocketed, which is encouraging for people like us to see, like, people that are actually doing work, doing good work, doing research, getting acknowledged, and getting this out there.
00:07:21.060 Because years ago, this wouldn't have been the case.
00:07:23.540 You would have been called crazy, probably, and stuffed in a closet.
00:07:26.780 Well, to that point, Top, it's a double-edged blade, though, because what I'm hearing is not only are we talking about a sensitive topic in regards to potentially concealed technologies, but also now, Ashton, you have a sizable spotlight on you.
00:07:44.700 So before we get into the foundation that I want to talk about here, which is, you know, kind of a refresher course, when did this happen, who did this happen to, is there any part of you that's concerned a little bit that you've gotten to the level now where you're not flying under the radar?
00:08:03.140 Quite close to the sun, sir.
00:08:04.980 Yeah.
00:08:05.340 No, I think about that a lot.
00:08:07.260 So, yeah, you know, a year ago, the growth has been incredible, especially when you realize that, like, I'm not, like, an e-girl.
00:08:13.180 I'm not talking about stuff like drama and fight stuff and stuff that's, like, generally a politics, things that get a lot of views.
00:08:20.020 Like, I'm just a normal dude, and I'm sitting here talking about boring science and physics and stuff that goes over people's heads.
00:08:26.320 And so to build this huge following around a topic like that is very impressive.
00:08:31.000 To your point, I agree.
00:08:32.860 I think that even 10 years ago, even myself, I could have never thought that this science, any of this could be real.
00:08:39.160 I even saw one of those videos 10 years ago, and like most people, you just thought that has to be fake.
00:08:44.380 I don't know how or what it is.
00:08:46.320 But now we're starting to get to the point where people are starting to wake up a little bit.
00:08:49.880 And I went under my own awakening.
00:08:52.660 And so more and more podcasters are more open to the idea.
00:08:55.900 It is extremely sensitive because it's really not just about the science and the technology.
00:09:00.520 It's about 239 people that disappeared off the face of the planet, and there's no official answer for what happened to these people.
00:09:09.440 And we just pretend like, yeah, a Boeing 777 can just disappear off the face of the Earth in 2014, and nobody has any idea what happened to it.
00:09:17.520 That's totally normal, you know?
00:09:19.120 So, yeah, it's been incredible.
00:09:21.740 And, yeah, we'll see what happens with, you know, the following going forward.
00:09:25.060 Well, let's start there, Ashton.
00:09:27.020 The people that were on the plane, because, I mean, we're conspiracy theorists.
00:09:29.800 The show is called Nephilim Death Squad.
00:09:31.180 We talk about aliens and things like that.
00:09:32.920 So the four-orb stuff, my brain starts to go to a completely different spot than yours, most likely.
00:09:38.660 But let's just deal with the hard conspiracy.
00:09:42.820 Who was on the plane?
00:09:43.960 Were these important people?
00:09:45.180 Because I know that people who have been researching cancer have gone down on planes.
00:09:49.420 I mean, this is a common occurrence.
00:09:51.380 Right, the Titanic and the people who were opposed to the Federal Reserve.
00:09:55.820 You know, is this one of those situations, Ashton?
00:09:58.080 Do we have persons of interest on that flight that you're aware of?
00:10:02.080 Yeah, what I'll tell people right away is that if they want to get the deep dive on this,
00:10:06.160 then they can check out, like, the Redacted podcast.
00:10:08.420 It's got 1.5 million views that got re-upped.
00:10:11.180 My interview got re-uploaded, like, a week and a half, two weeks ago.
00:10:14.940 And I go in a pretty hard deep dive.
00:10:16.300 When the Candace Owens interview comes out, it's a super deep dive into a lot of the evidence.
00:10:20.140 There's so much evidence that you can't even cover it in, like, three hours.
00:10:24.260 So I'm going to try to do the high level for you guys.
00:10:26.660 There is an interplay here of, like, the UFO community and the conspiracy communities and the free energy communities all kind of coming together.
00:10:34.820 And it's been hard for me to kind of navigate it.
00:10:36.760 So I would give my own opinion.
00:10:38.540 So anything that I say is, like, evidence-based, you know, you can make your own opinions based on the evidence.
00:10:43.240 And I give my opinions in terms of what we're seeing and why we're seeing it.
00:10:47.320 So for me, I don't think we're looking at aliens when we're looking at these videos of, like, orbs spinning around a plane.
00:10:53.520 I don't think we're looking at anybody inside these orbs because the movement of them is so precise.
00:10:59.060 So the first thing, when you watch the drone video a bunch of times, which is this General Atomics Reaper drone with some kind of custom camera underneath the wing, staring at the plane, you notice the operator seems to know what's going down.
00:11:15.300 That they're filming this plane before orbs show up.
00:11:19.020 They film the plane as the orbs show up.
00:11:20.940 They zoom in to the point where you can see this plasma orb with this heat signature in it, which is indicative of cold fusion.
00:11:29.140 If you look up cold fusion research, this heat signature looks just like about a dozen different images that we find of cold fusion research dating back to the 80s.
00:11:37.380 So it gives you a good idea of, like, hmm, this could be our technology that we've got going on.
00:11:43.760 And then the operator zooms out right before this plane gets zapped away in this cold event, which would indicate they knew that was about to go down.
00:11:55.620 And so this is the part where I say, huh, this is U.S. knows what's happening here.
00:12:01.560 So early on, a year ago, if you guys had interviewed me, I would have said, I can't tell if this is like a UFO event.
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00:12:34.640 Or if this is like an espionage event that's going on.
00:12:40.660 And now I've come to this conclusion that it's actually a little bit of both, but at the end of the day, it's not aliens, is that we've figured out gravity manipulation technology, cold fusion, which is really free energy, and that this was an operation.
00:12:55.040 United States government covert operation on this plane.
00:12:59.420 And then people will say, well, why?
00:13:01.460 Why?
00:13:02.060 There are 20 free-scale semiconductor engineers on this plane.
00:13:06.060 People do not realize how, at least in 2014, we did not realize how impactful semiconductors were, especially superconductors.
00:13:13.940 A superconductor is a conductor with perfect conductivity, meaning the electrons flow freely.
00:13:19.720 Like if you're on the freeway and there's nobody on the freeway, as opposed to if you're in rush hour traffic and you're not going anywhere.
00:13:26.340 The less traffic, the less temperature, the less the conductor heats up.
00:13:32.360 And if you have perfect conductivity, now you start to get to the point in physics where you're like starting to break the physics.
00:13:37.380 You're starting to have these exponential curves that you see in the physics equations.
00:13:42.020 And so 20 people from the same company, they were all very important engineers.
00:13:49.480 Eight of them are Chinese nationals, 12 are Malaysian nationals.
00:13:53.540 They all work for this American company, Freescale Semiconductors, which is connected to U.S. Aerospace and Defense, which had a national security agency report in 2005 written about it, about the commercial emergence of superconductive microchips.
00:14:08.280 And they had just come out with a microchip that was smaller than the dimple in a golf ball.
00:14:13.940 People have to realize when we're talking about microchips, we're talking about things that are smaller than the head of your nail.
00:14:18.900 Like these are like they're on like the atomic scales that they're actually like we're working on these microchips at this point.
00:14:25.500 And the secret isn't scaling this stuff up.
00:14:28.180 The secret is scaling this technology down to like the size of a microchip.
00:14:32.520 And then you build like an array out of these tiny microchips and you get this extremely powerful effect.
00:14:38.220 So to me, these guys are going to Beijing, they're going to China, they're working for this American company, and this plane disappears.
00:14:46.680 It's got to be related to those people.
00:14:49.140 There are a bunch of reports.
00:14:50.940 I think one of the most interesting one is the Russian GRU intelligence report that dropped like a few days after this plane disappeared.
00:14:57.860 That said China was planning on diverting the plane and that the Russians don't know why the United States Navy took the plane.
00:15:06.740 And you just look at that report in retrospect and you go, this wasn't Putin Russian disinformation.
00:15:11.860 This was Russia telling the world what they know and everybody else just kind of ignored it.
00:15:16.660 Well, this sounds to me, Ashton, like there was a, I mean, somebody, maybe multiple players on the world stage realized the magnitude to which semiconductor technology was going to be impactful.
00:15:32.900 And this was almost like a dash to grab them.
00:15:36.420 That's what it sounds like to me.
00:15:37.280 It sounds like if China already had plans to do something, maybe not disappear an entire plane through a portal, but maybe they had some sort of plans to intercept this flight, intercept these people.
00:15:50.820 And it sounds like we got there first.
00:15:52.400 This is checking out.
00:15:54.480 It makes sense from a logistical standpoint why you would want these people.
00:15:58.600 Yeah.
00:15:58.800 And in 2014, we couldn't have put those pieces together.
00:16:01.700 But now in 2024, we have these advanced AI models.
00:16:06.520 NVIDIA stock price has gone up like 50 fold in the last 10 years as well.
00:16:11.320 It's gone up like 20 fold in just the last four years.
00:16:14.520 We started to realize that semiconductors are much, much more important.
00:16:18.520 Joe Biden just dropped more tariffs on semiconductors.
00:16:21.440 And I don't know if it was Kamala or Trump, but one of them basically said that, you know, we are, we want to be the leaders in semiconductors as well.
00:16:31.540 Which we should be.
00:16:32.480 If they can do magical stuff like this, absolutely.
00:16:35.240 Like, so then the other element of it is, well, why, why would you use this technology, risk getting this technology shown?
00:16:43.960 And you could, I think the thing that makes the most sense, which originally comes from Joseph P. Farrell.
00:16:49.780 He's a guy in this UFO community that's written a bunch of books about high technology.
00:16:53.400 Like a week after his plane disappeared, he was, I don't know where he got his information, but he was speculating that the U.S. used some kind of super weapon on the plane to make it teleport, which is like exactly what I've concluded went down with this plane.
00:17:07.320 And he said, there would have been a message to Russia or to China.
00:17:11.380 Right.
00:17:11.780 Like, don't mess with us because you imagine they're stealing our scientists.
00:17:16.180 They were going to have these scientists like disappear, right?
00:17:19.180 The moment they land, they're never, when the U.S. is never going to see them again, steal their intellectual property, try to figure out how to, you can work the teleportation magic or even much beyond that.
00:17:29.440 Um, and we just get fed up with it and we're like, you know what, like you've been trying to steal our guys.
00:17:35.600 We're going to show you what we can do because think about it from the perspective of the world leaders.
00:17:41.340 They know that, let's say they know those videos are real.
00:17:44.280 They know the United States has that capability.
00:17:47.320 I would be shitting my pants.
00:17:49.320 Like, you know, every time I get on an airplane, that might be the last airplane flight I ever get on.
00:17:54.700 You know, this makes a lot of sense though, because historically speaking,
00:17:57.060 it's always been about a display of technological power, right?
00:18:00.040 So when it comes to the race to get to the moon and you can say what you want about whether or not the moon landings happened or didn't happen,
00:18:05.400 or they happened in the fashion that we were shown, um, it certainly was a, a sort of an arms race.
00:18:10.880 And then the same thing with the nuclear tests and, and, you know, the display of nuclear power.
00:18:15.060 So once again, this tracks, this fits, uh, it's, it's a two birds, one stone thing.
00:18:20.640 You corner the market on semiconductors.
00:18:23.220 You also display, you know, raw power on the world stage in a way that's there forever.
00:18:28.860 In fact, you even have your guys positioned to record the whole thing and make sure that the, uh, the video gets out there.
00:18:33.800 Yeah.
00:18:34.280 And maybe you don't want the video out or maybe you do, but like, I would say in an ideal world,
00:18:38.220 you don't want the videos that got leaked out there.
00:18:40.640 You just want like China's low resolution satellites to see that something weird happened.
00:18:45.820 Like they're actually, China did release satellite images five days after they leaked on the internet.
00:18:51.240 They get reported on as a debris field in the South China sea, but there is no debris field there.
00:18:57.340 When you look at the images, you just Google China satellite MH370.
00:19:01.220 It looks like something in a triangle formation around another object in the sky.
00:19:05.360 And you're like, oh, wow.
00:19:07.380 Like this was China being like, we saw what you did here.
00:19:10.920 But like at the same time, if Putin, China, CCP, if they know this happened, what are they going to say?
00:19:17.360 They can't go on the news and go, United States teleported our plane away.
00:19:21.520 Like the U S media would eat them alive.
00:19:23.880 And they would say, this is all disinformation.
00:19:26.060 This technology is not real.
00:19:27.560 They're just trying to put the, you know, they're trying to put the blame on the U S, et cetera.
00:19:30.920 So ultimately though, you have to think about when you look at the situation on the plane, there was so much obfuscation.
00:19:38.660 This is why everybody was confused.
00:19:40.080 This is why the Malaysian officials got so much flack for not doing the right thing.
00:19:45.680 It wasn't that they were idiots.
00:19:47.120 They weren't incompetent.
00:19:48.520 They were literally just being malicious.
00:19:50.220 They were covering up information, making sure that the information that leaked out to the public was under control.
00:19:55.700 Because for example, if we found out that there were communications where the plane was in an emergency event, then you're going to, you can't control the narrative if that happens.
00:20:06.280 So they had to be very selective about what information was leaked to the public.
00:20:09.600 Then you ask yourself, who, who has the power to manipulate countries like this?
00:20:16.440 There really is only one power that can do that.
00:20:18.980 United States government there, you know, Russia and China don't have that level of control over the world.
00:20:24.240 Uh, they do have their own propaganda apparatus, but the number one propaganda apparatus is the United States government.
00:20:31.620 So we are the ones who are implicated and I'm a patriot.
00:20:34.860 I love my country.
00:20:36.220 Uh, but we did some horrible shit and teleporting an airplane away where, you know, people ask me what happened to these people.
00:20:43.220 Did they live?
00:20:44.540 You know, people are looking for hope, but I don't want to give anybody any false hope.
00:20:48.800 So I think that it's very unlikely that many, if any, of the people survived on board this plane.
00:20:55.620 So I'm not here to tell people, yo, your family members are going to come back like the show manifest in a few years and teleport out of somewhere else.
00:21:02.360 Like, no, I think that this didn't go ideally, let's say.
00:21:07.540 Ashton, what do you make of that?
00:21:09.240 You, you bought up something that I had written down, which is the show manifest.
00:21:12.280 I'm sure you've talked about it ad nauseum, but within the conspiracy community, we talk a lot about these things, predictive programming, revelation of the method, different terminologies that get attached to the concept of when seemingly some shady body intends to show you their plan, often through Hollywood and things of that nature.
00:21:32.040 And when you have a show like manifest, which for those who aren't familiar with it, it's a Netflix show about a plane that goes missing and all of the people on the plane obviously go missing with it as well.
00:21:41.900 What ends up happening is they return miraculously for the people on the plane.
00:21:46.920 No time has passed for the individuals who watch the entire thing unfold.
00:21:51.600 I think something like four years had passed.
00:21:54.580 Maybe that wasn't isn't this like the same premise of that Avengers movie where they get snapped away and they kind of.
00:22:00.980 And I got to say, that's weird, top, right, because they there are these things and Avengers connects to this, too, because not only is that uncanny that Avengers would have done the same thing.
00:22:11.040 This is all around the same time period, but also you might say that Avengers was responsible for popularizing the concept of portals within the Western cultural zeitgeist where they've always been there.
00:22:27.660 There's always been, you know, talks of Stargates and things of that nature.
00:22:30.980 But the multiverse and the portals were I mean, if you I have, you know, a nine year old son, all of his cartoons are filled with concepts of portals and, you know, space time, space travel.
00:22:46.660 I think it really kicked off with Avengers.
00:22:48.520 I think that's strange.
00:22:49.500 What do you make of those things?
00:22:50.660 I know you're more of a nuts and bolts guy, Ashton, and I and I do want to get into speculative territory on this because some guy who, you know, as you who's been so close to this topic, I know you deal with the data, but I'd love to get your your more speculative ideas on what this all means.
00:23:08.540 But what do you think in the heat of battle?
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00:23:40.380 When you put when you see that manifest, the show manifest, Avengers, the portals, people snapping and then coming back.
00:23:48.020 I mean, there's portals everywhere, dude.
00:23:51.160 Yeah.
00:23:51.340 So, you know, that's a great question.
00:23:54.180 And what I would say is to be a great investigator, you have to have a keen, intuitive mind.
00:23:58.720 You have to seek to understand the material that you're trying to disclose, which is what I did on the science.
00:24:03.520 But you also have to be a student of history.
00:24:06.140 You also have to look back at the history of it, look back at the history of the scientists, also look back at the history of the media.
00:24:11.260 But when you look at the history, you guys pointed out like the Manhattan Project.
00:24:16.720 It seems like when I dig back, you get to the Manhattan Project and the Philadelphia Experiment.
00:24:22.180 And that's where a lot of this stuff begins.
00:24:23.820 It makes me wonder if when we discovered the atomic bomb, the atomic energy, it's like there was two sides of the coin and we only got to see one of them.
00:24:31.380 And the other side was not only can this coin itself and the mass in this coin have a huge amount of energy that we can release out of it, but we can just pull the energy straight out of the vacuum.
00:24:41.920 So you don't even need the coin anymore.
00:24:43.540 And it felt like we decided, no, that's too scary.
00:24:46.300 That's too dangerous.
00:24:47.680 This can't get out.
00:24:48.500 But then you also have this idea of, well, this opens the door to a lot of physics that we consider to be impossible.
00:24:56.120 Warp drives, wormholes, which is an Einstein-Rosen bridge, anything that requires negative energy that's already been solved out there.
00:25:05.560 And so then you wonder, OK, this technology, like there's something called the Kardashev scale, which says like your civilization is going to become like a type one civilization if you can use all the power from your son.
00:25:15.740 Hmm. The type of technology related to zero point energy completely obsoletes the whole scale.
00:25:21.380 Like we don't need the power of the sun.
00:25:23.300 We have unlimited energy all around us everywhere all the time in the form of this quantum foam, this zero point energy, this Dirac-C, the ether, whatever you want to call it.
00:25:33.180 So it's so impactful that it would change every aspect of our civilization.
00:25:39.460 Well, doesn't that, not to interrupt you, but doesn't that like undermine the idea of gravity itself?
00:25:44.500 Or even the plane that we're on?
00:25:47.060 Yeah.
00:25:47.540 Then the question is, what is gravity?
00:25:49.140 And so Pudov, Hal Pudov, I've found that he's the godfather.
00:25:52.380 Like I've nailed this guy.
00:25:54.060 Like if I have a board of all the scientists, it goes back to Hal Pudov at the top in terms of living scientists right now.
00:25:59.700 1989 writes a paper basically taking Sakharov's idea from 1967, famous Russian nuclear scientist and hydrogen bomb developer.
00:26:09.100 And says that zero point energy explains gravity.
00:26:12.060 Gravity is just a pressure effect.
00:26:13.580 You remove the zero point energy here, you have the pressure come in all around you.
00:26:17.600 Or if you add a bunch, then you also have the opposite type of pressure effect occur.
00:26:22.740 So gravity can go both ways.
00:26:24.660 We only experience it going one way because we have this huge amount of energy, which is called our planet Earth, condensed down.
00:26:30.760 And that's what's causing this gravity pressure that we feel.
00:26:34.480 And then if we remove the pressure in front of us, then what should happen?
00:26:37.400 The opposite.
00:26:38.120 I'll get pulled forward towards it.
00:26:40.900 And so you look at this and you realize that, yes, these zero point energy concepts relate to free energy being possible, portals, warp drives, wormholes, gravity in general.
00:26:51.500 They're all connected by the exact same physics.
00:26:54.340 And it's so impactful.
00:26:55.940 It would change everything about our civilization.
00:26:58.400 So then your question is, if you figure this out in the 50s and you know this is real, how would you get that out to the people?
00:27:04.540 But I guarantee the bureaucratic government is going to go, we have to drip this out slowly.
00:27:11.720 We need to have a plan.
00:27:12.680 The government loves their plans.
00:27:14.440 And I always think about the movie The Dark Knight where I go, they're schemers.
00:27:18.560 Schemers have plans.
00:27:19.800 I just do things.
00:27:21.940 I'm for catastrophic disclosure.
00:27:24.120 But to your point about predictive programming, there's two ways to look at it.
00:27:27.780 One is they've had this plan out there and they are letting the information leak to the entertainment world.
00:27:33.980 And the entertainment world writes stories about it.
00:27:36.480 And there are partial truths in there.
00:27:38.600 The other way to look at it is that you have scientists that know this stuff is real.
00:27:44.100 They know nobody will believe them and they consult with these directors and writers and stuff like that.
00:27:51.060 And the ideas leak out there.
00:27:52.760 It's art imitating life.
00:27:54.700 Some of the great movies that people presented shows, Dark on Netflix, really makes us think about the idea of time.
00:28:01.560 And if time itself is deterministic, meaning like you could go to the past, but if you met yourself in the past, you would remember it as a child meeting your future self.
00:28:11.000 And you can't potentially change that.
00:28:12.700 Or you have other ideas of where there's like multiple universes, things like retrocausality, where we have the Mandela effect, stuff like that, theoretically.
00:28:23.760 Interstellar presents the idea of time dilation, which is real.
00:28:27.020 I didn't even know before that movie in 2014.
00:28:28.920 But that if you remove the zero-point energy or you add zero-point energy, like, you know, the Earth, mass, etc., you're changing the dial of time.
00:28:38.360 You're changing how fast time flows.
00:28:40.760 So we experience time at a similar rate because we're all on the Earth right now.
00:28:45.260 But if I were to remove all the zero-point energy around you, your time is going to get shifted.
00:28:49.520 It's going to go faster or slower relative to people that are near more and more mass.
00:28:54.140 It's interesting because it's not just scientific, but it's also kind of biblical.
00:28:59.360 Like, in the Bible, it'll say, like, to God, whatever realm he's in, one day is a thousand years, and a thousand years is one day.
00:29:06.360 So there's time dilation right there.
00:29:08.440 And we just kind of, like, you know, briefly look at it and go, okay, well, what's the next verse?
00:29:13.240 Very interesting stuff.
00:29:15.600 That's actually a great kind of segue into what I wanted to ask you, Ashton,
00:29:20.040 is this idea of portals isn't necessarily new, right?
00:29:25.700 I mean, if you are an advocate or a fan of the concepts of, like, hidden history and lost technology,
00:29:33.260 well, there's always been this concept of ancient man having access to stargates, you know,
00:29:39.400 whether they're on mountaintops or elevated plateaus or, you know, even the Tower of Babel,
00:29:45.360 being not so strictly a tower that one just climbs to get to the clouds to shoot an arrow at God,
00:29:51.460 but maybe speculatively could have been some sort of technology like a Stargate.
00:29:56.500 So when you hear those concepts, once again, as somebody who you put a lot of emphasis on proof and information,
00:30:06.060 where does your mind go when you hear the concept of stargates and things of that nature?
00:30:11.780 First thing I think of is Eric W. Davis's paper on Traversable Wormhole Stargates and Negative Energy,
00:30:18.000 which is a defense intelligence research document.
00:30:20.420 They call them the DIRDS.
00:30:21.860 It was sponsored by the Defense Intelligence Agency around the time that probably General Flynn would have been director,
00:30:30.960 which the reason why I bring that up is because he's a general who was director of the Defense Intelligence Agency.
00:30:36.140 And he follows me on Twitter.
00:30:37.760 Not really sure why, but just point that out.
00:30:40.800 Interesting.
00:30:41.400 Remember what I talked about at the top of the show of your spotlight getting too big?
00:30:45.140 Yeah.
00:30:45.700 Getting too big, Ashton.
00:30:47.240 I'll get like guys like Roger Stone.
00:30:48.900 I'm like, why are you following me?
00:30:49.980 Yeah, Roger Stone follows me too.
00:30:51.480 I said Donald Trump might be the antichrist.
00:30:53.440 And then 15 minutes later, Roger Stone started following me.
00:30:55.880 And I was like, well, that's interesting.
00:30:57.240 Well, yeah.
00:30:57.840 So these guys know that there's stuff out there that the public wouldn't be able to accept.
00:31:01.800 And so Eric W. Davis wrote this paper, Traversable Wormholes, which is a wormhole that's like a black hole with no event horizon,
00:31:09.800 meaning you can go through it and you're not going to get spaghettified.
00:31:13.300 And then Stargate is really just, if you think about it, it's the same idea, but it's just a permanent wormhole,
00:31:18.080 one that's just there that is in a fixed point in space and time.
00:31:21.600 And then negative energy is what we need based on all the physics to actually produce this.
00:31:28.020 So I think that when we look at the MH370 videos and we see these balls of plasma spinning around the plane,
00:31:34.260 and then they converge and this plane disappears, I think we're looking at the base level of this technology.
00:31:40.780 Like we're not looking at it taken to its extreme yet.
00:31:43.260 We're looking at like, what can humans do once we figured out that the universe is electric
00:31:47.780 and that we can use very powerful electromagnetic fields to rip a hole in the fabric of space time.
00:31:53.480 Next thing you would do is like, are there existing quantum entanglements that we can manipulate?
00:31:59.360 Like we find that there's an entangled particle on Mars and there's one here and we build a Stargate around it.
00:32:05.940 And then now we have a permanent bridge between these two locations.
00:32:09.120 That to me would take even more engineering.
00:32:12.560 And it's, it really comes down to material science is like, how, how small can we make our microchips?
00:32:18.520 Like how much can we manipulate elements at the atomic layer?
00:32:22.420 Like with LK99 last year, that was something that woke me up where you see this room temperature,
00:32:29.160 superconductive rock just floating freely over a magnet, more so just floating freely,
00:32:34.620 but like you stick it and it like jiggles, but doesn't move.
00:32:37.860 And you just look at that.
00:32:38.460 You're like, how the hell is that happening?
00:32:40.980 You know?
00:32:41.300 And you realize, well, if you can manipulate the element at the atomic layer, you can build a highway.
00:32:47.320 Just like when we were talking about superconductivities, like having a highway where you just flow freely
00:32:51.680 and you have no resistance.
00:32:52.800 Well, if you can manipulate the element at that level, that's at that level of detail,
00:32:57.080 you can build your highway for the electrons to just flow freely as opposed to being stuck in traffic all the time.
00:33:02.520 And so you think about it like, okay, well, if we can advance technology far enough, then really the imagination is the only limit on this.
00:33:10.180 I would say Stargate, the TV show, probably predictive programming.
00:33:14.660 I don't know that we're there right now, but I have heard rumors that like there are people really do have Stargates out there.
00:33:20.100 You know, it's just a rumor, but wormholes, absolutely.
00:33:24.720 And the difference with wormhole, again, is that we theoretically, if you look at like warp drives where they're like kind of creating something that can go faster than the speed of light,
00:33:33.100 they usually have this ring around them.
00:33:34.760 And the problem is you have to connect that ring to your craft because you need a way to like, you know, give it energy.
00:33:39.840 When you look at the orbs in MH370, but you realize, oh, we were a little bit off.
00:33:43.880 We don't need to have like this ring attached to our craft.
00:33:47.260 We can just teleport anything.
00:33:49.140 All we need is three orbs in a perfect orientation.
00:33:52.420 And this creates like a triangle formation in three-dimensional space.
00:33:56.200 And that's all we really need to do.
00:33:58.720 And so this is another thing too, where it's like that's that level of detail.
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00:34:32.240 It's just, it's so profound.
00:34:33.960 It's impossible for me to think that somebody just thought of that.
00:34:37.060 Like it takes the existing concepts of warp drives and wormholes and says, no, this is how it would really work in actual practicality based on science of zero point energy out there.
00:34:47.460 So last thing I would say is that basically anything in Star Trek is possible, except for maybe the teleportation they use in Star Trek, where they dematerialize your body and rematerialize.
00:35:00.120 That's not how teleportation really works.
00:35:02.040 Teleportation is really about taking you from one place and now you are, you manipulate the medium itself.
00:35:10.920 So it's like, almost like if there's a fish in a water bowl, you're picking up the water bowl and you're moving that water bowl somewhere else.
00:35:16.200 And so therefore now the fish is in a different place.
00:35:19.360 You're moving that's the trick to getting around the speed of light, because the faster you approach the speed of light, otherwise with your mass, the more and more energy it takes for you to speed up.
00:35:28.760 And this was always been the limitation.
00:35:30.100 So how do you get around that?
00:35:31.380 Just manipulate the medium instead.
00:35:33.600 Right.
00:35:34.180 And this is what Bob Lazar kind of talked about on in his documentary with Joe Rogan, where he theorized that the UFO would have a it would it would angle itself and then manipulate what's in front of it in order to suck itself forward.
00:35:47.720 So instead of it changing, it's changing the matter in front of it.
00:35:51.740 But like I just want to say, this is a this is a preview is going to end right now.
00:35:56.140 If you want to watch the rest of it, we're going live still on Patreon.
00:35:59.600 And if not, you'll catch it in a couple of minutes.
00:36:01.960 And yeah, I'm ending it here for the people who don't pay us.
00:36:05.760 But I have a I have a question I wanted to unless you had something top.
00:36:09.680 Did you know?
00:36:11.120 Now, the other thing, too, is like if you just look at the last year, I have to take some credit because all of a sudden a bunch of people are talking to Joe Rogan about warp drives, wormholes.
00:36:19.540 I mean, Peter Thiel went on Joe Rogan, just drops warp drives out of nowhere.
00:36:22.880 This guy's in the know.
00:36:23.960 He's connected to the CIA.
00:36:25.740 Like and it's pretty odd.
00:36:27.100 He starts talking about that and the implications of that technology.
00:36:30.000 You've got Lou Elizondo was talking to Glenn Beck and he got Glenn Beck like he they start talking about warp drives and wormholes.
00:36:37.160 And then Glenn Beck, you can just see his headlight.
00:36:39.440 I did an interview with him a couple of months ago and he asked him straight up, like, what do you think about MH370?
00:36:44.880 Have you heard about that?
00:36:46.240 And Lou Elizondo, he's this big UFO guy like me, like starts looking down, looks like he gets really nervous.
00:36:51.600 He's like, I'm not into conspiracies.
00:36:54.240 And you're like, wait, but you think that the alien like we're hiding this big conspiracy about aliens, but you don't think that we could have gravity orbs.
00:37:02.060 Right. Like the reason why I bring this up is that when you come to craft and Bob Lazar, one thing I noticed is that we figured this plasma technology out when we started looking at hypersonics with hypersonic craft.
00:37:16.300 They're too fast for conventional physics to explain.
00:37:19.900 What we do is we use this plasma sheath in front of them, literally rip the electrons out of the air and creates this plasma.
00:37:27.680 What does this plasma do?
00:37:28.980 It reduces the drag.
00:37:30.440 It not only reduces the drag, it actually helps propel them forward as well.
00:37:35.640 The problems are, how do you keep like people from disintegrating in the craft behind them and the various temperature issues and things like that?
00:37:43.420 Well, what's the biggest way to fix that?
00:37:46.400 No craft at all.
00:37:47.500 Why do I need a craft?
00:37:49.160 We live in the drone age now.
00:37:51.020 So instead of the craft, I just want a ball of plasma.
00:37:53.520 The plasma is what's reducing the drag.
00:37:55.420 The plasma is what's co-curring the energy from the environment.
00:37:59.280 That's all I need.
00:38:00.240 And then when you look at the MH370 videos, you go, oh, shit, now I get it.
00:38:04.400 We figured out this plasma technology, this hypersonic plasma technology with our spy planes and all this stuff going back to the 60s or before.
00:38:12.520 And then we eventually got to the point where we could communicate through the plasma, which is generally an issue with electromagnetics and electromagnetic frequencies using scalar frequencies.
00:38:23.580 And now we can have a coherent ball plasma that floats around freely.
00:38:27.680 And once you realize that what's happening with these balls of plasma is they're pulling energy out of the vacuum, out of the Dirac Sea.
00:38:33.880 This is why they are both self-sustaining and they are also self-organizing, even though we probably have to use these powerful magnetic fields.
00:38:44.120 So this is the part where going back to Bob Lazar and some of these other people, you start to see we can we can figure out the history of this science.
00:38:52.140 We can understand how this can be our technology.
00:38:55.140 It doesn't have to be aliens or what have you.
00:38:57.580 But there's still this mystery of, you know, where did this come from?
00:39:01.380 Did we figure this out on our own, the Manhattan Project, or did we dig something up?
00:39:05.720 And I leave that for the UFO community, whatever, to argue about aliens or whatever else.
00:39:10.360 I think that stuff's neat.
00:39:12.160 I have my own thoughts about what the most probable likelihoods are and some of that stuff.
00:39:16.420 But for me, it's just about the technology.
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00:40:48.460 Well, I have to ask you, Ashton, because this is the nature of the show.
00:40:53.140 You know, there's a lot of speculation about 1947 Roswell.
00:40:57.940 Did we recover crafts, or were we allowed to recover crafts in the reverse-engineered technology?
00:41:03.560 We're talking about Bob Lazar and everything.
00:41:04.960 And it does seem that on this show, one of the threads that Top and I pull at most often is that throughout history, many leaps in technological advances.
00:41:14.280 And I mean technology in the most rudimentary form, right?
00:41:16.620 Like agriculture is a form of technology.
00:41:18.760 Metallurgy is a form of technology.
00:41:20.040 Well, these things have often been attributed to some sort of deity.
00:41:23.440 Some deity comes down and teaches primitive man or early man how to do X, Y, and Z.
00:41:29.000 When I look at Roswell 1947, I feel very much it's the same way.
00:41:33.840 You could say through a creative lens that, you know, entities from above gave us technology.
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00:42:10.740 There is room in this conversation for whether or not that technology is responsible for the advancements that we've had now.
00:42:16.880 Everybody says that the government is X amount of years ahead of us, and we're only just screwing around with iPhones.
00:42:21.540 Exactly.
00:42:21.740 But they have something else.
00:42:24.980 I would very much be interested because, Ashton, you've brought this information to plenty of platforms,
00:42:31.240 but I can sense that there's a hesitation to get into the speculative realm.
00:42:35.760 I'd very much enjoy it if you went there with us today.
00:42:37.920 What do you think is the nature of the source of the technology that we're dealing with?
00:42:43.500 Those orbs, also, I do want to say because we're big paranormal geeks,
00:42:48.480 and I listen to testimony from people all over the place.
00:42:51.860 And whenever there's a Bigfoot, not every time, but there's almost always an accompaniment of an orb.
00:42:58.540 Whenever there's a UFO, whenever there's some weird owl sighting,
00:43:02.520 owls are always associated with orbs and then UFOs.
00:43:05.940 And these things will just be floating through the forest.
00:43:07.980 And I'm like, well, is this government stuff?
00:43:09.440 Maybe there's government bases there, but why is this always being seen by people?
00:43:15.160 You know?
00:43:15.800 Yeah.
00:43:16.360 And so one of the things, too, is that these orbs in general have really approached the zeitgeist the last 10 years or so.
00:43:24.180 Before that, it was always about flying saucers and stuff.
00:43:26.420 And now we're just seeing these light balls in the sky.
00:43:30.060 And this is part of the reason why I think that a lot of this is really just our technology that we've figured out.
00:43:36.440 But then, you know, it's the big question, like you said, and I'm happy to go into speculation.
00:43:39.900 You know, where does this come from out there?
00:43:43.300 So for me, the funny part is the more I've learned about this and the history of it and that, like, clearly we've been working on this for 40, 60 or more years,
00:43:53.040 the less sure I am of the origins of it.
00:43:55.460 It could be just anything from, like, aliens are a psyop and we figured this out in the, you know, Manhattan Project.
00:44:02.520 What a perfect cover story, right?
00:44:04.820 It's like, oh, just aliens.
00:44:06.760 We're just going to leave the people in the dark.
00:44:08.400 I always speculated about aliens when, like, we figured it out ourselves.
00:44:11.820 Or maybe there really are aliens and they did bestow this upon us.
00:44:16.020 Maybe there are past civilizations that we dug something up from a previous civilization because this technology is not an invention.
00:44:23.760 It's an understanding of the universe.
00:44:26.160 It's a discovery.
00:44:27.540 Those types of things don't require a certain level of technological advancement to understand.
00:44:32.340 Maybe this is how we figured out how to build the pyramids.
00:44:35.260 Maybe we are on a prison plan.
00:44:36.840 Maybe we are the aliens.
00:44:38.180 I mean, look how advanced we are.
00:44:40.180 There's a lot of people that don't think that we were able to evolve from monkeys.
00:44:43.220 Maybe there was something that got in there that, you know, advanced our evolution or we are simply aliens that are, like, stuck on Australia.
00:44:51.540 You know, like, the planet Earth is like Australia.
00:44:53.460 We're the convicts.
00:44:54.240 We're the good for nothings.
00:44:56.040 You know, maybe we're too violent, too dangerous.
00:44:57.700 And they said, we've got to keep you suppressed.
00:45:00.640 Maybe AI has already taken over the world.
00:45:03.640 I mean, I see the advancements in AI and it freaks me out because the military for sure has had AI longer than the public has.
00:45:09.660 In fact, I think that's probably one of the things that allowed the orb technology and the plasma technology to take off.
00:45:15.380 Because not only do you need to figure out, OK, now we just need a ball of plasma.
00:45:18.940 We don't need the plane anymore.
00:45:20.420 You also have to figure out how to control that in three dimensional space.
00:45:24.040 You need a very powerful supercomputer, in my opinion, potentially a quantum computer to be able to pull that off.
00:45:28.780 And again, this links back to the freescale semiconductor scientists.
00:45:32.340 And then the last theory, which is one that I would have laughed at a couple of years ago, was this idea of future humans.
00:45:41.040 Because when you look at the double slit experiment, this is the one where it's like the wave function breaks down when we measure it.
00:45:47.960 So it goes from this probabilistic point to this deterministic point.
00:45:52.680 This is very similar to the idea of teleportation.
00:45:55.160 In fact, this is where non-locality and quantum entanglement come from.
00:45:58.820 The only way I can look at that is I go time is not linear anymore, that the universe is somehow able to see what's going to happen and look ahead and back a little bit in time and then react accordingly, which to me is a form of time travel.
00:46:11.860 And then the delayed choice quantum eraser variant, based on my interpretation of that experiment, shows that you can actually take information from the future and have it flow back to the present, which is a form of time travel communication.
00:46:25.360 So if that's possible, then there could be a future human phenomenon.
00:46:30.220 Now, lastly, the one other thing I would say is that somebody mentioned this in the chat, usually gets brought up, can the balls of plasma be sentient themselves?
00:46:38.300 I think this is a great philosophical question.
00:46:40.800 What makes us sentient?
00:46:42.000 If it's our connection to a permanent energy source, and then when that energy source is cut off, we die, which I think kind of makes some sense, and that there's this sea of energy out there that we're constantly extracting energy from, maybe that sea of energy represents consciousness.
00:46:58.000 And maybe we are just like avatars where our consciousness goes into these biological type bodies.
00:47:03.020 And if so, if we can have a floating ball of plasma that's constantly connected to that ether pulling energy out, is it conscious as well?
00:47:12.320 So these are, like I said, now that I presented those ideas to you, I'm curious of what your guys' thoughts are, because I go, man, I don't know.
00:47:19.400 Maybe all of them, maybe some of them.
00:47:21.320 There is anecdotal precedence for that in testimony of people who claim to be astral projecting.
00:47:28.100 And whether or not you believe that the phenomenon is real, there's certainly a formula for it.
00:47:33.720 You know, you do X, Y, and Z, get in this state of mind, and there's at least a procedural, you know, set of steps that can lead you to being able to do this.
00:47:43.280 Now, when people who astral project claim to go and, let's say, or remote viewing, claim to go and, let's say, view their friend's house.
00:47:52.320 I remember hearing this recently, Top, I don't know if maybe we absorbed the same content, maybe you've heard this too, but long story short, someone claims to have gone and visited a friend.
00:48:01.520 And that friend says that the exact time that you claim to have been in my house are the exact times that me and my spouse noticed a bunch of orbs that we were catching on, you know, ring camera, on all this stuff.
00:48:14.220 And so there are, like I said, it's anecdotal, but there is some sort of precedence, and you can find a lot of testimony like that.
00:48:22.300 When I do X, Y, and Z, remote view, astral project, then I seem to take on some sort of orb body.
00:48:29.900 Now, I don't know if I buy into that, but those two things do seem tied to some degree.
00:48:35.940 What do you think, Top?
00:48:36.700 Well, yeah, so that goes into the idea of, I guess, your energy, whatever that means, your energy in a different place, but possibly in a different realm.
00:48:46.600 I'm not really sure what to say about that, but it gets me thinking about, what's that ranch called?
00:48:53.120 Oh, Skinwalker Ranch?
00:48:55.020 Yeah, yeah.
00:48:55.580 Have you looked in the Skinwalker Ranch?
00:48:58.440 Like Brandon Fugel, he's the owner.
00:49:00.460 He follows me on Twitter as well, but I haven't been directly involved.
00:49:04.100 I've never actually watched the show, but people constantly tell me they're talking about portals and what have you.
00:49:07.640 The problem with that is, like, it's sensationalized, you know?
00:49:10.700 The point is to get people to watch it.
00:49:12.560 So it may be that the scientific concepts are real, but maybe everything they present isn't exactly, you know, it's not quite as much as they've seen.
00:49:18.900 I don't know, but what I will say is this.
00:49:21.080 And I think that the science that I am advocating for does support the concepts of remote viewing and psychic powers.
00:49:31.740 Why?
00:49:32.540 Three things.
00:49:33.160 One, space is not empty, okay?
00:49:35.640 Space is a medium filled with energy that's out there.
00:49:38.100 There's enough energy, even in a small area like the size of this coffee cup, to boil all the Earth's oceans.
00:49:44.320 The reason, and that was from Richard Feynman, basically, is where that's, I'm paraphrasing a little bit, and he was on the Manhattan Project, which kind of blows me away how we've just ignored this.
00:49:52.840 Like, clearly, for an electromagnetic wave to propagate through space, it can't be an empty vacuum.
00:49:57.680 There must be something there.
00:49:59.380 Quantum mechanics prove that there is something there.
00:50:01.700 It's called the vacuum catastrophe, and they just argue, is space empty, or is there this huge amount of energy there?
00:50:08.640 Kaluza-Klein figured it out in 1926.
00:50:11.660 They figured out there's an extra dimension.
00:50:13.400 We just don't perceive that dimension.
00:50:15.480 Like, maybe you guys saw the video of the little kid talking about dimensions and how you perceive them.
00:50:20.620 Yeah, I've seen that.
00:50:21.400 Yeah, it's like that.
00:50:23.220 It's like that.
00:50:23.720 So this energy is there, but it's on these quantum scales that are below what we can perceive.
00:50:28.000 But it's always out there.
00:50:29.340 That's why I mentioned the Skinwalker Ranch, because, yeah, the show is, like, fantastic, and it's done to be a show.
00:50:35.520 But the reality of the science there, it seems like there's activity that is supernatural and, you know, strange activity going from UFOs to actual skinwalkers and shit like that.
00:50:45.380 And electromagnetic, because they get really weird readings there.
00:50:48.540 Because of that.
00:50:49.180 Because of the electromagnetism in these, like, there's, like, different mountains and stuff that they start drilling, and then they'll get weird behavior on the rancher.
00:50:57.520 People will get sick because the land reacts to it, and you'll also see portals and stuff like that opening up.
00:51:03.340 Like, they actually have it on the show.
00:51:05.460 They've caught portals opening up and things disappearing into it.
00:51:08.780 But it's possibly because there is some kind of underlying energy there.
00:51:12.880 Whatever parallel that's on in the world, maybe there's, like, a small thinny, a thin area there that allows it to do stuff like this.
00:51:20.000 So the technology that we're talking about right now, it seems like we're able to produce that anywhere.
00:51:26.160 But in this specific spot on the Earth, and I'm sure others, it's just a naturally occurring phenomenon.
00:51:31.180 So you're going to get this weird interaction.
00:51:34.200 It's tremendous.
00:51:35.380 Amazing stuff.
00:51:36.100 Naturally occurring phenomenon part of it.
00:51:37.840 You know, these effects are from nature.
00:51:40.700 And so we are just manipulating them.
00:51:43.780 Like with the orbs, it's like taking something that nature can do.
00:51:46.580 I mean, just think of, like, lightning, for example.
00:51:48.460 Like, how does lightning work?
00:51:49.600 Why does lightning even exist at all?
00:51:51.080 I still don't believe ball lightning, by the way.
00:51:53.000 I don't care what anybody tells me.
00:51:54.140 I know I've seen the videos.
00:51:55.280 I don't – somebody said that ball lightning moved through their house, that it came through their house and moved it.
00:52:01.900 And I know it's supposed to be a real phenomenon.
00:52:03.360 I go, no, it's ghosts.
00:52:05.320 Well, here's the thing.
00:52:06.460 Ball lightning – there was a ball lightning study, physics study by Eric Davis.
00:52:10.620 It's basically just about balls of plasma.
00:52:12.740 So actually, ball lightning is just balls of plasma, which are also referred to as exotic vacuum objects by Ken Shoulders.
00:52:20.600 And Ken Shoulders was a very prominent engineer.
00:52:22.760 But like a lot of these guys, the moment they dip their toe in something that mainstream academia isn't ready to accept, they start getting labeled.
00:52:30.120 You're a pseudoscientist.
00:52:31.160 You're a crank.
00:52:31.640 These guys invented, like, major stuff.
00:52:33.420 Like, Hal Pudoff invented the first tunable laser.
00:52:36.000 And he wrote textbooks for Stanford.
00:52:38.120 It's like, this guy's not a lightweight.
00:52:39.920 But you look at his Wikipedia profile, and you have biologists talking about his science is a pseudoscience, and his patents can't be real.
00:52:46.460 And he's like, I've got my patent approved five times and made millions and millions and millions of dollars off of it.
00:52:50.920 But the last point I want to make sure I address related to the science is that all points in space and time are connected.
00:52:58.200 This is probably the most important thing to understand about our universe.
00:53:01.040 The holographic principle is fundamentally correct.
00:53:04.760 What we perceive as distance is just an illusion.
00:53:07.760 You can even go so far as to argue that on the quantum scale, all there is is time.
00:53:12.780 Time is the only factor.
00:53:13.860 And when we're manipulating gravity, we're actually manipulating time itself.
00:53:16.840 And that's where things start to get very bizarre.
00:53:19.760 But if you realize that all points in space and time are connected behind the scenes, potentially by this extra dimension, the ether, then you open the door to remote viewing.
00:53:29.480 Because me being here or there is just a matter of perception.
00:53:33.540 It's not a matter of my, you know, how the universe is really rendering everything, our reality all around us.
00:53:40.820 And this is what Ben Rich, 16-year director of Lockheed Skunk Works, Lockheed Martin Skunk Works.
00:53:48.840 Somebody asked him, you know, when you said we have the ability to take ET home, they were like, what do you mean by that?
00:53:56.460 And I mean, this guy is like saying we have all this technologies in black projects.
00:54:00.940 The world would not believe it.
00:54:02.340 It would take an act of God to get it out.
00:54:04.520 In this case, it actually just took two military videos of a dude with a Twitter account.
00:54:07.800 But, you know, we're working on it.
00:54:09.340 But a guy asks him, he says, well, you tell me, how is ESP possible?
00:54:14.620 And then the person that says, well, all points in space and time are connected.
00:54:18.000 And he just goes, exactly.
00:54:20.300 And so it's like you see that we figured this out.
00:54:23.040 The private military contractors that get the billions and trillions of dollars from the government.
00:54:27.460 They, I think it was $71 billion worth of black projects every year in like 2020 or 2021.
00:54:35.020 You know, they're much more efficient than the government is on this.
00:54:37.920 They've got the best engineers on the planet.
00:54:40.160 They're doing sketchy stuff as well in terms of making people disappear, discrediting them, whatever they have to do to protect the technology.
00:54:46.900 They're super far ahead of where the public is now to the point where it's actually a problem.
00:54:53.120 And this is why you'll even hear these UFO people talk about it.
00:54:55.640 Like the government's backed themselves into a corner now because we've been lying for so long about how advanced we really are.
00:55:01.840 We can't even reveal it to people because people's minds just break.
00:55:05.060 They go, you can't have hidden this from us that long.
00:55:08.000 And like you guys will have no problem absorbing it.
00:55:10.260 But think of like all the Kamala Harris voters out there.
00:55:13.220 Right.
00:55:14.360 But no, but like they are going to have a complete mental breakdown.
00:55:18.500 All their experts have been lying to them.
00:55:20.120 All the expert physicists and engineers that they think are reputable.
00:55:23.520 The Neil deGrasse Tyson's are all complete frauds and phonies that know nothing.
00:55:26.740 And we were able to hide this information from them for 80 years.
00:55:32.700 Hey, guys, we could have had free energy and we'd be traveling amongst the stars or all this SpaceX stuff where Elon shooting rockets in the sky and all the seals clap when the rocket lands on the on a platform.
00:55:44.100 It's all obsolete.
00:55:45.560 It's all obsolete technology.
00:55:47.000 And we just let it happen.
00:55:49.200 It's like, who's going to account for that?
00:55:51.060 Like, imagine how many NPCs are going to just completely malfunction.
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00:57:15.920 We talk about that a lot.
00:57:18.480 I mean, that's a big one, but we talk about that with, obviously you're on Twitter, so you see the whole JQ question and stuff.
00:57:25.160 But it's like, if you wake people up too quickly, they'll wake up in a stupor and be pointed in whatever direction you choose.
00:57:31.880 So, I don't know what the hell the government's doing, but they have dropped the ball, you know, completely.
00:57:38.640 I guess there's a line of thought that they're evil or they're incompetent.
00:57:42.840 And I think it might be a mix of both because they should have been rolling this out a little bit slower.
00:57:47.280 But I wanted to bring this up because this kind of relates to what we were talking about in the beginning of the show
00:57:52.700 with the people on the plane of MH370.
00:57:57.160 And Elon Musk here, he's talking to Mario Nafal.
00:58:01.500 They're talking about a 5D crystal.
00:58:04.460 And he just kind of like suggests we should write all human knowledge into these crystals because apparently they have like...
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00:58:41.320 Crazy capability of, you know, storing memory.
00:58:44.760 So, is this a...
00:58:46.940 Have you heard about this?
00:58:48.360 And if so, is this a similar technology to what these people were working on?
00:58:52.880 Yeah, it could be.
00:58:53.840 They had some patent for optimizing dyes on a wafer.
00:58:57.440 And a wafer is just basically a microchip as well.
00:59:00.600 Now, I haven't dug enough into like the crystallization aspects of this.
00:59:04.660 But some people, like I've seen stuff where like they've stopped light in certain crystals.
00:59:09.340 This is how I would look at it.
00:59:10.700 If you realize that space-time is a medium, like water or whatever medium you want it to be.
00:59:15.720 And it's just, it represents energy.
00:59:17.340 This latent energy level that we've got out there.
00:59:20.380 And then what's happening when light is passing through it is it's got its own refractive index.
00:59:25.180 Just like if I were to beam a laser through a cup of water, you're going to see the laser bend a little bit.
00:59:29.880 That's also what's happening with light as it travels through space-time.
00:59:33.940 This also may be questions whether or not the Big Bang really happened.
00:59:37.060 Because we all have this tired light theory.
00:59:38.520 But let's push that to the side for now.
00:59:40.700 If all it is is a medium and we can remove the zero-point energy or add zero-point energy to change the refractive index of the light in a certain region.
00:59:48.940 Then why can't we just do that on smaller scales with like crystals, for example, with certain elements?
00:59:55.300 You know, you change element composition and now you can change the way light interacts with it.
01:00:00.440 In fact, you can do really weird stuff.
01:00:02.060 One of the ones that blows me away the most is phase conjugate mirrors.
01:00:07.260 And they have like specific elements that will cause phase conjugation to occur.
01:00:11.460 To give you an example of how weird this is, when you bounce a light.
01:00:16.420 Let me see how I can do this for people to see.
01:00:18.380 When you bounce a laser off a mirror, it's going to bounce at the angle of incidence that it came in at.
01:00:24.380 So it's going to bounce like this, it's going to go up that way.
01:00:26.720 When it happens with a phase conjugate mirror, no matter the angle that the laser hits the phase conjugate mirror, it bounces directly backwards the same way.
01:00:36.320 So it's like, boom, it goes back the same direction.
01:00:39.320 And it completely has an opposite phase.
01:00:42.300 So, or yeah, complete opposite phase.
01:00:43.920 So if I have a transverse wave here, then it means that wave is coming back exactly the same way as it was and cancels out.
01:00:50.140 What happens if you put, if you like put two mirrors of those same mirrors that like infinite loop?
01:00:56.300 So great question, honestly.
01:00:58.640 And the point I wanted to bring this up is that now you can imagine like, okay, now what if we start manipulating the crystal lattice structure of any element?
01:01:05.260 Like LK99 for superconductivity, or we can start to find some kind of weird structure where light gets trapped.
01:01:10.880 Like you beam a light in there, it just doesn't come out, just goes in and gets stuck.
01:01:14.320 They actually use phase conjugate mirrors for lasers.
01:01:18.420 A laser is just, I got to remember the acronym, light amplification of simulated emission, simulated emission, sorry, light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation.
01:01:32.700 What you do is you just shoot electromagnetic wave into a, any type of cavity that has gas in it.
01:01:39.120 And you can manipulate what type of gas you want and you make the walls phase conjugate mirrors.
01:01:44.400 So what happens, you have an object in the middle of that, the light hits the object and then it bounces.
01:01:48.820 It doesn't matter what direction it bounces at because once it hits the phase conjugate mirror, it's going to go directly back onto the object again.
01:01:54.560 This causes a focusing effect.
01:01:56.020 So this is how you can actually take like emission, electromagnetic emission, turn it into light.
01:02:02.180 And the reason why lasers are specific color is because they're only emitting a certain wavelength, as opposed to white light that we see that's emitting all wavelengths.
01:02:10.120 So this is how you can create potentially a very powerful focused laser effect using phase conjugate mirrors.
01:02:18.340 And then you start to realize like, this is what metamaterials are all about, is manipulating the lattice structure of your elements to get the exact property that you want.
01:02:27.220 In some cases, exotic properties that logically to us would make very little sense if we see them, but they're real.
01:02:33.240 Man, it's so amazing because one of the rabbit holes that I love to go down is frequency and color.
01:02:40.540 I'm a graphic designer, that's my job, and I'm a musician because I like to do that.
01:02:45.760 So these things coincide.
01:02:47.100 And for the longest time, I've been looking at the idea of perfect pitch or relative pitch and people that have synesthesia that will overlap.
01:02:57.480 You know, they'll see Jimi Hendrix, very famous.
01:02:59.760 He wrote a song where he's talking about his emotions and the way the song goes.
01:03:05.440 He's naming the colors, basically the colors of the rainbow, but it kind of lines up with his synesthesia.
01:03:11.540 And it's the same thing with a laser.
01:03:13.000 A laser is a frequency, but it's perceived as a certain color because it is a certain frequency.
01:03:18.680 And this just goes way down the line.
01:03:20.500 I mean, we're talking about Tesla here, right?
01:03:22.140 We're basically talking about all the stuff that he did.
01:03:24.400 And man, and he was into free energy, which is, you know, where this, in my opinion, it took me several months.
01:03:31.340 And I wanted to come to these conclusions on my own.
01:03:33.440 No one told me, like, this is what you should believe or anything like that.
01:03:36.640 But you start to ask the question of, like, how are these balls of energy?
01:03:40.280 Where's this energy coming from?
01:03:42.200 And when you start to look at it, you realize it goes all the way back to Tesla.
01:03:45.040 Tesla had figured it out.
01:03:46.140 JP Morgan helped cover it up.
01:03:47.880 He realized we can pull energy from the vacuum all around us, and we don't need any fossil fuels.
01:03:54.600 Tom Bearden, he's another legend of the engineering black world, doesn't get nearly enough credit, but you can find so many videos out there.
01:04:01.800 In my opinion, famously said that all the coal, all the oil, all the solar, all the wind, everything that we burn or to produce energy has never added one watt to the power lines.
01:04:13.560 And really, all it boils down to is a dipole, a battery, a capacitor, is that all we're doing is we're creating an asymmetry, more negative charge on one side than the other.
01:04:23.460 That creates your asymmetry.
01:04:25.080 And once you have that, you're going to have energy flowing through your circuit.
01:04:28.560 And that's really all it boils down to.
01:04:31.100 And that's important to think of it from that perspective and not about, you know, causing nuclear fuel or pulling atoms apart and then extracting the energy from that.
01:04:39.920 That's not really how nuclear power works.
01:04:42.000 And when we burn stuff, we're not like directly taking the energy from that and utilizing it.
01:04:46.660 It's a very inefficient process.
01:04:47.900 All we really end up doing is spinning the generator.
01:04:51.140 And spinning the generator creates your asymmetry.
01:04:53.520 We should be looking at ways to make more efficient asymmetry, a more efficient dipole.
01:04:59.240 And when you look at parametric resonance in electrical circuits, there's this clear analogy to a swing.
01:05:06.840 You've got your swing going back and forth.
01:05:09.060 Well, when I have a swing, I don't constantly push on it.
01:05:12.000 That's like what we're doing right now with electricity.
01:05:14.380 This is why we're so stuck in this idea that you cannot produce free energy because we believe you must constantly be pushing on your swing.
01:05:22.120 But of course not.
01:05:22.660 That's not how you push on a swing.
01:05:24.040 You wait for the swing to come back to you and then you push on it.
01:05:26.900 Wait for it to come back.
01:05:27.700 And you're pushing on it in a resonance.
01:05:29.320 Now, what happens when you look at the equations of an RLC circuit, which is a resistor, a capacitor, and what's the other word?
01:05:39.280 Inductor.
01:05:39.640 You realize that there's actually a bit of an inequality.
01:05:43.640 You can make an asymmetrical system.
01:05:45.520 You can actually get to a system where if your resistance is low enough and you oscillate a current through there with a frequency, then what happens with your swing is instead of your swing going like this, it starts to go like this.
01:05:58.480 And now you think about that from the electric side, you go, whoa, I'm amplifying energy here.
01:06:05.200 And so you take that concept, you take the concept of keeping your dipole open, and you add and sprinkle in a little bit of plasma, where plasma is the fourth state of matter.
01:06:14.440 What happens in plasma?
01:06:16.000 Electrons break free.
01:06:17.840 They break free from their orbit.
01:06:19.460 And they begin to do something weird.
01:06:21.480 They cluster together.
01:06:22.840 They're clustering together when normally they should be repelling from one another in any other state of matter.
01:06:29.460 Well, electrons clustering together is exactly what we need to create a dipole.
01:06:34.220 And then we can have an oscillation in our plasma.
01:06:37.280 That oscillation can amplify the energy consistent with like our swing.
01:06:41.080 And now what do we have?
01:06:42.560 We have Salvatore Pius' fusion, magnetically confined fusion patent.
01:06:48.540 And we have those orbs in the videos.
01:06:51.040 Those are fusion, cold fusion that are cohering energy that can also amplify energy at will, especially if you have a tunable frequency like with a radio or whatever.
01:07:02.460 We can just say, okay, ramp it up right now.
01:07:04.480 And that's what I think they're doing when they're converging on the plane.
01:07:07.600 And then boom, we get such energy level that we break through the Schwinger limit, which is where space time becomes nonlinear.
01:07:13.980 And now you've got an Einstein-Rosen bridge.
01:07:17.080 So pretty incredible.
01:07:18.240 I do want to ask you something.
01:07:21.060 I know we only have like five minutes left, and it's just been something that I'm thinking about.
01:07:24.560 And it's really just I'd love to get your opinion on it.
01:07:26.360 But you were talking earlier about the idea for a slow roll or a slow drip or like predictive programming, something like that.
01:07:33.120 Right.
01:07:33.320 But it moves from Hollywood.
01:07:35.920 And then all of a sudden, it's in our space.
01:07:37.720 Right.
01:07:38.020 We have Glenn Beck.
01:07:39.040 There's people on Joe Rogan's that are alluding to the very thing that we're discussing right now.
01:07:42.980 And it seems to be, yes, it seems to be that this ball is being moved down the field.
01:07:49.040 And I just wonder your thoughts on obviously not purposely, but now you are an integral part of that slow drip.
01:08:00.940 And for you, it's not slow.
01:08:02.460 You're tenacious, and you're going after it, and you're trying to lay this compelling argument out to the people so that they can understand it.
01:08:07.460 But if there is an effort to slow roll this out, maybe it's like the cat's out of the bag, and we need to acclimate the public with this concept.
01:08:16.500 You are now part of that apparatus.
01:08:19.100 Do you find that fascinating?
01:08:20.560 Not to put it on you, but yeah.
01:08:22.440 So Candace is your fault.
01:08:24.640 No, well, Candace is one of those types that like now, like so the JQ stuff, that's out in a big part because of Candace.
01:08:30.500 Oh, and she is pushing that into the culture.
01:08:32.600 And your episode's about to drop with hers.
01:08:34.240 So I guess we could, we'll time this when this one drops and maybe coincide that.
01:08:38.120 But how do you feel about that?
01:08:40.500 Like, it's like your turn.
01:08:42.020 You're the guy in the right spot at the right time.
01:08:44.540 What do you think, man?
01:08:45.560 You ever just look over your shoulder and see if like anybody's nudging you?
01:08:49.480 I do sometimes think like, oh, what I do think is I think there's factions out there.
01:08:53.380 And I think some of them are fed up.
01:08:54.920 Like Salvatore Pius put out a message through my friend Dave Rossi yesterday.
01:08:59.400 And I didn't know, neither of them messaged me about it.
01:09:02.320 And like, they're upset.
01:09:03.960 These guys are upset.
01:09:04.840 When you watch the message, you can tell they're mad.
01:09:06.760 Why?
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01:09:38.340 There are other factions that don't want the information to come out.
01:09:41.000 And they have no problem lying and bad-mouthing.
01:09:43.340 This guy's a quack, his science doesn't really work, blah, blah, blah.
01:09:46.560 Meanwhile, you're Salvatore Pius.
01:09:48.400 You're like, you've got five patents that amount to an orb that can float around and do this.
01:09:53.600 And you're like, dude, I invented it.
01:09:56.200 I gave it to the Navy.
01:09:57.700 We literally have it.
01:09:58.900 Now, he's not literally saying that because he would probably go to prison if he did.
01:10:02.500 But that's what I've identified him as.
01:10:04.360 He's the guy that must have made these orbs or he knows who did.
01:10:07.580 So, of course, they're going to be angry.
01:10:08.800 And I think that you really have to look at it from the human perspective.
01:10:12.340 Put yourself in the shoes of the various factions.
01:10:16.000 One of the factions says, look, man, we've been hiding this for long enough.
01:10:19.240 It's time for us to have it.
01:10:21.120 Whatever is going to happen is going to happen.
01:10:23.180 The other faction says this is too dangerous, way too dangerous.
01:10:26.760 Like, this is not nuclear weapons.
01:10:28.360 This makes nuclear weapons look like little firecrackers.
01:10:31.120 Like, this is stuff that, you know, if a terrorist organization has this, they could destroy the world.
01:10:36.980 This is the kind of thing where people are going to make cults around it.
01:10:40.140 Where they're going to be like, we will be the ones to herald in the end times and make the black hole superweapon bomb that destroys us all, you know.
01:10:46.400 They'll be worshipping it for sure.
01:10:48.040 Religions.
01:10:48.580 Exactly.
01:10:48.960 You know, this is why I constantly say I'm not a religious leader.
01:10:51.320 This is not a cult.
01:10:52.180 Like, this is not a religion.
01:10:53.380 This is just science, you know, because I don't want people to get into that.
01:10:55.940 And they will.
01:10:57.220 And they already are in that way in the UFO community, in my opinion, in some cases.
01:11:00.900 So, you can see from the other side that it's too dangerous for humans to have.
01:11:04.640 And like what Peter Thiel said, which really kind of blew me in his way,
01:11:09.140 is that he proposed this thought experiment.
01:11:11.000 And this is when I was like, this guy knows.
01:11:12.680 He's like, maybe we either to harness this technology, zero point technology,
01:11:16.740 we either have to be all angels or all demons.
01:11:20.240 And he doesn't literally mean like angels and demons.
01:11:22.500 He means, metaphorically, we either have to be perfectly altruistic,
01:11:26.680 like we would never harm another being, kind of, you know, hippie type stuff,
01:11:31.000 which is never going to be realistic.
01:11:32.960 Or we have to be perfectly, like, fascistic.
01:11:36.280 Like, we have to have perfect control.
01:11:38.440 Like, think of, like, one world government, like, WEF type stuff, right?
01:11:42.440 We have to have perfect control where we know what every single person is doing
01:11:45.220 and thinking.
01:11:46.020 And anybody that steps out of line, like, we just come down on them super hard.
01:11:49.760 And the scary part is, I think he's right.
01:11:52.400 I also think I know which way we're going.
01:11:55.560 And yeah, that's the only scary part, right?
01:11:57.700 I almost empathize with it because it's like,
01:11:59.840 what are the odds that everyone's going to become altruistic?
01:12:02.700 But what are the odds that you can stomp out, you know,
01:12:05.220 everybody with an iron boot, a little bit more likely?
01:12:09.020 It's pretty scary.
01:12:10.020 So then the last thought I would say, too, is that
01:12:11.740 I believe that there is a kind of arms race happening behind the scenes
01:12:18.200 between the United States, China, Russia,
01:12:21.180 maybe Iran, North Korea, a much lesser extent.
01:12:23.540 And they want to get access to this technology.
01:12:26.040 United States already has it.
01:12:28.040 And we're in a situation now where the people that are behind are so far behind
01:12:32.480 that, like, you can't even compete.
01:12:34.000 Like, if you have teleportation tech like this, like nuclear ICBMs,
01:12:37.120 these are nothing compared to our tech, right?
01:12:39.660 So then you start to think, I would want to fight on another axis,
01:12:43.340 on another playing field.
01:12:45.220 So instead of fighting for missiles and bombs and plasma orbs,
01:12:49.260 I'm going to start fighting for people's minds.
01:12:52.920 And how would I do that?
01:12:53.940 If it was me, I would control social media.
01:12:56.280 And I would try to dumb down my enemy as much as possible.
01:12:59.420 And that's what I see everywhere I go when I look on social medias.
01:13:03.340 Really, like, and just the social fabric of our society
01:13:06.300 seems to be collapsing, especially in the United States.
01:13:08.960 And I do wonder if some of this is not intentional to get us,
01:13:12.660 either it's because of these wars happening behind the scenes,
01:13:15.440 this arms race,
01:13:16.060 or just because they're trying to get us to one of those ways
01:13:19.540 where we can actually handle this.
01:13:21.160 And then they want to let the technology out.
01:13:23.280 So when you said, hey, Ashton, this is all on you, whatever.
01:13:25.780 I do sometimes wonder that.
01:13:26.880 Like, I don't want to be the one to herald in the end times.
01:13:29.000 But I do sit here sometimes and wonder, like, man,
01:13:31.780 should I be doing this?
01:13:33.100 Should I just delete my social media entirely?
01:13:34.880 And I personally decided, like, many people have told me
01:13:39.460 that, like, our fate is our own.
01:13:41.420 Like, whatever happens, like, we, you know,
01:13:44.600 that's what our civilization, that's our path to follow.
01:13:48.200 And if that means we destroy ourselves,
01:13:50.060 that means we destroy ourselves.
01:13:51.380 So that's why I want to have the conversation.
01:13:53.480 That's why I thank you for having this conversation here today
01:13:55.480 because we can start to get people to realize,
01:13:58.040 what are these implications?
01:13:58.980 They're huge.
01:14:00.220 And what do we have to do to change ourselves
01:14:02.060 so that we don't destroy ourselves?
01:14:04.540 Because I don't want that to happen.
01:14:05.900 I'm going to...
01:14:06.440 Thank you, man.
01:14:07.260 This is a great episode.
01:14:09.120 And I'll just tell you, man, keep doing what you're doing.
01:14:12.560 I don't think one man can change the course
01:14:16.080 of what's supposed to happen.
01:14:17.820 Things will play out how they'll play out.
01:14:19.560 And I'm glad there's people like you around
01:14:21.380 that's making sense of this for us.
01:14:23.860 Right.
01:14:24.060 But what I do want to say is that
01:14:25.200 when some terrorist organization
01:14:26.400 gets a hold of this technology
01:14:27.720 and makes, like, Washington, D.C.
01:14:29.820 disappear into a portal,
01:14:31.020 I'm going to think of you.
01:14:33.000 I'm going to tweet at you.
01:14:34.000 I'm going to say, real nice, Ash.
01:14:35.240 I'm going to say, thank you.
01:14:37.000 Nothing of value is lost.
01:14:40.120 That's a good place to leave it, guys.
01:14:41.760 That's perfect, perfect.
01:14:42.820 We'll be back in an hour with Daniel Swarthoth.
01:14:45.140 Peace out, guys.
01:14:46.400 The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth
01:14:48.680 is a oblong box in the corner of the room.
01:14:52.380 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.
01:14:56.180 It's you can persuade them
01:14:57.600 that what they see with their eyes
01:14:59.660 is what there is to see to come.
01:15:01.580 Because they'll laugh in the face
01:15:04.560 of an explanation that portrays
01:15:07.100 the bigger picture of what's happening.
01:15:09.140 And they have.
01:15:10.020 In the heat of battle,
01:15:15.060 your squad relies on you.
01:15:16.620 Don't let them down.
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