Nephilim Death Squad - November 22, 2024


077: Heidi Luv Reveals: The Hidden History of Mormon Practices


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 16 minutes

Words per Minute

182.14058

Word Count

24,875

Sentence Count

772

Misogynist Sentences

24

Hate Speech Sentences

96


Summary

Heidi Love is a writer, podcaster, and skeptic who doesn t believe in the Mormon religion. In this episode, she shares her thoughts on religion and why she doesn't believe in it. She's also an atheist and an ex-member of the Mormon church.


Transcript

00:00:00.480 It's the season for new styles, and I love to shop for jackets and boots.
00:00:04.180 So when I do, I always make sure I get cash back from Rakuten.
00:00:06.980 And it's not just clothing and shoes.
00:00:08.540 You can get cash back from over 750 stores on electronics, holiday travel, home decor, and more.
00:00:13.020 Earn cash back at stores like Sephora, Old Navy, and Expedia.
00:00:15.880 It's super easy to use, and before I buy anything, I go to Rakuten first.
00:00:19.740 Join for free at Rakuten.ca, start shopping, and get your cash back sent to you via Interact, PayPal, or check.
00:00:24.580 Get the Rakuten app or join at Rakuten.ca.
00:00:27.180 That's R-A-K-U-T-E-N dot C-A.
00:00:30.000 We are being hypnotized by people like this.
00:00:36.160 News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.
00:00:41.100 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
00:00:49.520 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely...
00:00:55.360 Oh, yeah, dude.
00:00:56.640 There's some Nephilim shit.
00:00:57.800 It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying shit what happened to the home of the brave.
00:01:04.000 Motherf***ers, they controlling this now, and no one's talking about how they learn to try to be slaves.
00:01:08.760 And everybody's just walking around, heading across the world, awake into a dead in the grave.
00:01:13.980 But then it's too late, we need to be ready to raise up.
00:01:16.800 Welcome to the end of days.
00:01:18.460 Everybody is slaves.
00:01:20.000 Only some are aware that the government releases...
00:01:22.620 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.
00:01:28.640 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.
00:01:32.180 That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.
00:01:35.680 And today, we have a very special guest with us today.
00:01:39.320 Someone who has been recommended several times by the chat, by fans of the show.
00:01:44.380 And finally, I was able to hunt her down and set it up.
00:01:47.760 We are very excited to introduce to the audience Heidi Love.
00:01:52.140 Heidi, for those who may not be familiar with your work,
00:01:54.640 can you tell them what it is you focus on and where they can find you?
00:01:59.200 Sure. I am Heidi Love.
00:02:00.740 I'm at the Unfiltered Rise Podcast.
00:02:02.420 I'm everywhere podcaster serves.
00:02:04.120 I do have my own website.
00:02:05.800 Yep.
00:02:06.200 And I try to...
00:02:08.380 I have a Patreon as well.
00:02:10.300 And we do two extra shows a month there.
00:02:12.600 I do one with an atheist ex-Mormon.
00:02:14.860 Because why not?
00:02:15.860 That's fun.
00:02:17.200 An atheist ex-Mormon.
00:02:18.600 How does that happen?
00:02:20.240 I mean, that actually happens most of the time.
00:02:23.340 People get really disgruntled and go,
00:02:25.600 this is all fake and gay.
00:02:27.020 And then they leave.
00:02:28.340 I was blessed to not have a religious upbringing.
00:02:33.260 And the reason I say blessed is because I can see that.
00:02:35.860 A lot of people, they get burned by one religion or another.
00:02:39.120 And then rather than say,
00:02:41.180 well, maybe it was my own personal experience
00:02:43.560 and there might be something more here,
00:02:45.160 a greater conversation to be had,
00:02:46.520 they actually turn their back on it.
00:02:47.720 And so, yeah, I see that happen very often.
00:02:50.520 So true.
00:02:51.260 And I'm actually in your boat now
00:02:53.180 and hopefully raising my kids like that.
00:02:55.260 So I just believe in God and the Bible
00:02:57.680 and I don't do all that religion anymore.
00:03:00.320 Yeah, you know, I can kind of see that.
00:03:02.000 There was a point...
00:03:03.100 So I was grown up.
00:03:04.720 I grew up in the Christian church
00:03:06.280 and kind of like forced to go there.
00:03:08.060 And there was a point...
00:03:09.900 Man, how long ago?
00:03:11.400 Like my old gay self was like,
00:03:13.000 yeah, maybe there is no God.
00:03:14.320 Maybe God is just kind of whack
00:03:15.900 and looking at the stories that way.
00:03:17.520 But now coming back and reviewing the Bible,
00:03:20.580 especially the Old Testament,
00:03:21.400 I'm like, oh, no, this is real.
00:03:23.620 And the justification for what God is,
00:03:26.240 Ed Mabry has actually really helped us.
00:03:27.980 I know that you stole him from us yesterday.
00:03:30.560 I'm sorry.
00:03:32.420 Go check that episode.
00:03:33.460 I didn't know.
00:03:34.640 Is it out right now?
00:03:36.420 No, but it is coming out.
00:03:37.900 And actually it is called the Queen of Heaven.
00:03:41.060 So Mormons believe in the Queen of Heaven.
00:03:43.660 And so I had to talk to Ed about it.
00:03:45.680 I'm like, this is the guy.
00:03:48.080 Wait, but now I got to know.
00:03:49.920 Well, I kind of have an idea
00:03:51.740 of what Ed thinks about it,
00:03:52.820 but I'm not going to lie.
00:03:53.520 As soon as that episode drops,
00:03:54.580 I'm going to be there watching it.
00:03:55.800 So very excited for that.
00:03:57.580 Thank you.
00:03:58.700 You know what that's like though?
00:03:59.980 And I know typically we like to ask you
00:04:02.200 a couple of questions to get into it,
00:04:03.240 but this is an interesting conversation.
00:04:04.480 We're going to derail, derail, derail, derail.
00:04:06.460 Immediately, five minutes in,
00:04:07.640 I'm going to derail.
00:04:09.540 That's like going to a sandwich shop
00:04:11.480 and having like a really bad sandwich
00:04:13.560 and being like, sandwiches suck, dude.
00:04:15.320 Like don't ever have a sandwich.
00:04:16.580 Don't ever, sandwiches are not the way to go.
00:04:18.600 And it's like, dude, honestly,
00:04:19.420 there's some killer sandwiches out there.
00:04:20.800 You just had one bad one, you know?
00:04:22.280 And it's like, there's a lot of that.
00:04:24.040 It's kind of human nature to be so,
00:04:27.740 well, it's human nature
00:04:29.740 mixed with a cultural attitude
00:04:33.280 towards Christianity
00:04:34.440 or towards religion in general, right?
00:04:36.280 Where it's like,
00:04:37.540 there is an entire apparatus
00:04:39.080 built within our media
00:04:40.180 that will celebrate you
00:04:41.960 if you just utter the words like,
00:04:44.120 there's no such thing as God
00:04:45.320 because I had a bad experience.
00:04:47.140 And what you really do
00:04:49.000 is you then drop this religious experience
00:04:51.180 and go and have another one
00:04:52.360 with a new gang.
00:04:53.100 Whether that new gang is atheist
00:04:54.320 or agnostic or whatever it is,
00:04:55.980 you're still engaging in that.
00:04:57.540 You're just looking for a new community
00:04:58.820 to fill that hole.
00:04:59.780 So I just see it very often
00:05:02.060 and I understand how people can be scorned
00:05:04.160 by their bad experiences
00:05:05.280 and some are certainly worse than others.
00:05:07.160 But what I can't empathize with
00:05:11.420 is the logical, intellectual aspect of it.
00:05:15.440 Meaning there's so much information here.
00:05:18.380 How could you in your right mind
00:05:19.500 cast it all away?
00:05:21.040 Yeah, for sure.
00:05:22.120 That's how I feel too.
00:05:23.120 And I was really blessed that I live in Utah.
00:05:26.220 Like I'm in the belly of the beast,
00:05:27.840 like literal.
00:05:29.140 And being an ex-Mormon,
00:05:31.380 but that's one thing.
00:05:32.640 But being an apostate
00:05:33.840 that speaks out in Utah, oof.
00:05:35.920 And so, you know,
00:05:37.980 we just were lucky enough
00:05:39.340 to have my mom who got,
00:05:40.980 I could say that, like got out, right?
00:05:42.800 Like she got out of prison.
00:05:45.060 And she told me,
00:05:46.680 and I was like, you're crazy though.
00:05:48.800 You just don't know
00:05:49.900 because you're not high up enough yet.
00:05:51.480 I pulled that whole crap, right?
00:05:52.980 Like, because you get really self-indoctrinated
00:05:54.860 with your own bull crap.
00:05:56.980 Like you really are,
00:05:58.460 it's not good.
00:05:59.860 It makes you not a good person.
00:06:01.600 I'm a much better person now.
00:06:02.780 Can we explore that, Heidi, then?
00:06:04.280 Let's start from the beginning
00:06:05.540 because you're an ex-Mormon.
00:06:08.000 Mormonism is something that,
00:06:09.800 as I explained,
00:06:10.940 I never had a religious upbringing.
00:06:13.100 It's the season for new styles
00:06:14.760 and I love to shop for jackets and boots.
00:06:16.780 So when I do,
00:06:17.440 I always make sure I get cash back from Rakuten.
00:06:19.600 And it's not just clothing and shoes.
00:06:21.140 You can get cash back from over 750 stores
00:06:23.340 on electronics, holiday travel,
00:06:24.840 home decor, and more.
00:06:25.620 Earn cash back at stores
00:06:26.720 like Sephora, Old Navy, and Expedia.
00:06:28.480 It's super easy to use.
00:06:29.740 And before I buy anything,
00:06:30.920 I go to Rakuten first.
00:06:32.100 Join for free at Rakuten.ca,
00:06:33.960 start shopping,
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00:06:37.200 Get the Rakuten app
00:06:38.320 or join at Rakuten.ca.
00:06:39.780 That's R-A-K-U-T-E-N.ca.
00:06:42.860 And so it's estranged to me.
00:06:46.860 I don't really know very much about it.
00:06:48.680 Can you talk a little bit
00:06:49.480 about what your experiences were like?
00:06:51.200 The only thing I know
00:06:52.100 is I saw the Book of Mormon.
00:06:54.380 I know it was very expensive.
00:06:55.620 It was very funny, very offensive.
00:06:57.780 Well, wait.
00:06:58.340 I just want to say
00:06:59.440 shout out to Not Nice Guy,
00:07:01.300 who I know is in the chat.
00:07:02.360 Not Nice Guy.
00:07:03.220 I'm very excited for this episode.
00:07:05.340 And he got me two Bibles
00:07:06.740 at Bohemian Grove.
00:07:08.780 I don't know if you can see that there,
00:07:09.840 but it actually says the Raven on it.
00:07:11.920 And this one is my Book of Mormon Bible.
00:07:16.620 Right?
00:07:17.160 This is what he's got me.
00:07:18.260 The Book of Mormon,
00:07:19.380 Doctrine and Covenants,
00:07:20.900 Pearl of Great Price.
00:07:22.420 Also, let this be,
00:07:23.320 this is a quick add for the Patreon
00:07:24.600 because we actually do,
00:07:26.620 no matter how much I say
00:07:27.840 that I can't stand our fans,
00:07:29.140 we do value them.
00:07:30.400 They, they come to the shows.
00:07:32.480 They're here all the time
00:07:33.600 and we take their advice
00:07:34.820 on who we should talk to.
00:07:35.800 And I like the way
00:07:36.300 this conversation is going already.
00:07:37.740 So I think we should let her,
00:07:39.320 what the hell is Mormonism?
00:07:40.560 What is Mormonism?
00:07:41.320 He's Joseph Smith.
00:07:42.740 Well, I think for that,
00:07:44.360 I will do the slideshow,
00:07:45.440 but I will give you a quick bio on me.
00:07:47.840 I was, I am Mormon royalty.
00:07:50.540 Basically, I,
00:07:51.660 even in my DNA specimen,
00:07:53.260 it says Mormon settler DNA.
00:07:55.840 Like I already knew that
00:07:57.120 because everybody that's a good Mormon
00:07:58.580 does all their genealogy
00:07:59.800 and I already knew
00:08:00.340 what my genealogy was.
00:08:01.540 So, and that's going to play
00:08:03.180 into this conversation,
00:08:04.140 but I, I was born into it.
00:08:06.040 And for 34 years,
00:08:07.160 I had a really weird dichotomy
00:08:09.220 because my grandma
00:08:10.540 was this super religious lady
00:08:12.260 and she fell in love
00:08:13.180 with this heathen of my grandpa
00:08:14.600 who was from Chicago
00:08:15.560 and the South side
00:08:16.400 that just want to fight
00:08:17.220 everybody all the time.
00:08:18.400 And so, and he was a biker,
00:08:20.360 like it was like this whole thing.
00:08:22.500 So I just saw like that.
00:08:24.700 And then I saw my grandma
00:08:26.260 and I was like,
00:08:26.880 maybe we should do what she's doing.
00:08:28.280 She seems to have it more together, right?
00:08:30.640 Like, I want to go to jail.
00:08:33.180 Like, so, so you're actually,
00:08:36.080 am I right?
00:08:38.040 Is this, this feels like a silly thing
00:08:40.660 that's about to escape my lip.
00:08:41.760 You're genetically Mormon.
00:08:43.780 I'm genetically Mormon.
00:08:45.540 What does that mean?
00:08:46.560 What does that mean?
00:08:47.300 Yeah.
00:08:47.460 How does that, how do you,
00:08:48.520 how do you square that
00:08:50.260 and identify yourself
00:08:51.260 as genetically Mormon?
00:08:52.080 Well, it actually says it
00:08:54.420 on my ancestry.com sample.
00:08:56.840 And so, oh yeah, that's what it,
00:08:59.460 but you know, they own the company.
00:09:00.680 I mean, we're going to get into that,
00:09:02.160 but wait a second, wait a second,
00:09:03.560 wait a second, the Mormons own ancestry.
00:09:06.600 Okay.
00:09:07.020 Here's what they do.
00:09:08.080 And I'm going to show you,
00:09:09.160 they have a Batman cave
00:09:10.200 and I'm not kidding.
00:09:11.320 Full of genealogy.
00:09:12.880 I'm not kidding.
00:09:14.160 I know this is why Mormonism
00:09:15.920 is the gift that keeps on giving.
00:09:17.420 We could talk as much
00:09:18.300 as you've talked with Ed
00:09:19.300 and you will never get
00:09:20.220 to the bottom of this.
00:09:21.060 You're making it sound cool,
00:09:22.520 but please continue.
00:09:23.180 Yeah.
00:09:23.420 I really like it so far.
00:09:25.560 Thomas likes it.
00:09:26.600 Thomas, Thomas is always like,
00:09:27.960 I'm going to join.
00:09:28.820 I'm like, you got to get married
00:09:29.820 because you're wasting time
00:09:31.320 and you got to have all these kids.
00:09:32.260 Thomas the paranoid American?
00:09:33.120 I got six kids.
00:09:33.940 Yeah.
00:09:34.260 Yeah.
00:09:34.440 Me and him do a special together.
00:09:35.660 He cannot stop infiltrating groups.
00:09:38.220 That's what he does.
00:09:38.720 Different course.
00:09:39.820 A hundred percent.
00:09:40.760 He's a fed.
00:09:41.380 Please continue.
00:09:43.060 We do monthly Mormon Monday together.
00:09:45.840 And so we actually,
00:09:47.040 yeah, we do it twice a month now.
00:09:48.600 Yeah.
00:09:49.300 And so we have about 10 shows out,
00:09:51.200 I think.
00:09:51.900 So yes, it's fun.
00:09:54.240 Thomas, you should have said,
00:09:55.960 no, I'm just kidding.
00:09:57.000 He probably has.
00:09:58.200 I just don't pay attention to anybody,
00:09:59.680 but it sounds to me like
00:10:00.740 we have this book of revelation series
00:10:02.360 going on with Ed Mabry.
00:10:04.500 And it sounds like you guys
00:10:05.440 have a Mormonism series going on.
00:10:07.380 In Thomas's defense,
00:10:08.540 he's doing a lot of things.
00:10:09.980 He's like creating Legos
00:10:11.360 and shit like that.
00:10:12.160 Yeah, he's crazy busy right now.
00:10:14.900 They're doing like a live every single day.
00:10:16.780 So I'm going to shout out for Thomas,
00:10:18.280 even though he didn't do it for me.
00:10:19.700 Paranoid American and Donut
00:10:20.800 are doing a live every single day,
00:10:22.280 I think for the next week or something,
00:10:23.900 because they're trying to get
00:10:24.800 all the money together
00:10:25.540 for their comic series.
00:10:28.000 So good for them.
00:10:28.600 Yeah, guys should definitely go
00:10:29.820 and support Donut
00:10:31.060 and Paranoid American.
00:10:32.560 This is a growing community
00:10:34.180 and these people need support
00:10:36.060 and they're going out of their ways,
00:10:37.260 creating a lot of content.
00:10:38.400 So if you appreciate it,
00:10:39.440 go and support them.
00:10:40.040 Yep, so we, you know,
00:10:42.240 we got together, started doing this
00:10:43.520 and what Thomas will do
00:10:44.440 is sometimes we'll do educational ones.
00:10:46.320 Like last week,
00:10:47.360 we did Harry Potter Mormon
00:10:48.860 because I'm stupid.
00:10:51.600 But it was all true.
00:10:53.920 Yeah, it was all true stuff.
00:10:55.160 And I was like,
00:10:55.720 this is the magical world of Joseph.
00:10:57.620 And I actually added,
00:10:58.820 this is perfect timing for you guys.
00:11:00.740 I added a bunch of my magical slides in there.
00:11:03.080 And I also am hills off
00:11:04.780 of a Martinus deep dive,
00:11:06.500 which is where I'm getting
00:11:07.680 like attacked on YouTube
00:11:08.860 because this guy thinks
00:11:09.860 I don't know that he created this.
00:11:12.860 Like, I do want to say to people,
00:11:14.640 there's books and internet things
00:11:16.580 that you can read
00:11:17.400 and then you talk about them,
00:11:18.580 but that doesn't make them yours.
00:11:20.140 Right, right, right.
00:11:21.040 So this guy is like going crazy on me.
00:11:23.120 And I'm like,
00:11:23.780 none of this stuff is mine.
00:11:24.440 Because he thinks that you're stealing his content.
00:11:26.140 I stole his content.
00:11:27.780 Yeah, but these are books.
00:11:28.480 That's such a ridiculous thing.
00:11:29.480 I just want to say,
00:11:30.120 before we did this show,
00:11:31.820 I was doing my other show earlier today
00:11:33.960 and I said,
00:11:35.060 you know, none of these things,
00:11:36.320 you could do a show
00:11:37.300 on exactly what I just did a show on.
00:11:39.980 Is the name of the game spreading information
00:11:41.820 or is it coveting and gatekeeping?
00:11:44.560 As far as I'm concerned,
00:11:45.380 the name of the game is spreading information.
00:11:47.060 And so go ahead and take what you will.
00:11:48.480 And especially when it's declassified CIA docs,
00:11:51.660 like he's like,
00:11:52.360 I did a Mormon mafia show.
00:11:54.020 I'm like, of course you did.
00:11:55.100 It's freaking history.
00:11:56.400 It's also fascinating.
00:11:57.980 Yeah, fascinating.
00:11:59.180 But the names are the names
00:12:00.300 and the book is the book.
00:12:01.480 And the, you know,
00:12:02.320 we all go to the same sites.
00:12:03.540 And if you want a really deep dive,
00:12:04.940 you can only go so far
00:12:05.920 because history is at the end,
00:12:07.600 like it's finite, right?
00:12:09.400 Like we can only go so far.
00:12:11.520 So shout out to that weird guy.
00:12:13.860 But anyway.
00:12:14.820 You always find him.
00:12:15.760 You always find him.
00:12:16.460 So let's jump into this idea
00:12:18.060 about,
00:12:20.040 honestly,
00:12:20.700 I would like to get to
00:12:21.760 the genetically Mormon thing.
00:12:23.460 But I think it's important
00:12:24.340 for the uneducated like myself
00:12:26.940 to kind of explain
00:12:28.440 where Mormonism differentiates
00:12:31.380 from Christianity
00:12:32.380 and what ways is it different?
00:12:34.700 Because I don't have
00:12:35.780 a firm grasp on it at all.
00:12:37.700 All right.
00:12:38.180 Let's open up this slideshow
00:12:40.040 if I can,
00:12:40.740 because I think this is going to help a ton.
00:12:43.220 And I'm just going to share my screen
00:12:44.980 and I have it all set up to go.
00:12:47.020 Awesome.
00:12:47.500 And I'll pop it up
00:12:48.160 once you get it on here.
00:12:49.260 Because this is something that like
00:12:50.700 everybody is aware of the Mormons
00:12:52.300 and everybody is peripherally aware
00:12:54.560 of Joseph Smith
00:12:55.500 and the idea of these tablets.
00:12:58.300 But nobody is really
00:13:00.680 aware of the actual details.
00:13:04.120 Or not nobody,
00:13:04.780 but most people are not aware
00:13:05.680 of the actual details,
00:13:06.840 the nuance.
00:13:07.660 And I didn't even know
00:13:08.780 any of this stuff
00:13:09.540 when I was a Mormon,
00:13:10.680 most of it, you know,
00:13:11.760 because you just do
00:13:12.380 That's funny how that works.
00:13:13.540 That's funny how that works.
00:13:15.280 Okay.
00:13:15.640 So this first slide here is,
00:13:17.660 I like to put this in.
00:13:18.980 This is newer.
00:13:19.560 This is Joseph Smith Sr.'s family,
00:13:22.660 but I just wanted to show
00:13:24.300 as a funny little ha-ha
00:13:25.920 his parents' name.
00:13:28.340 I don't know what Christian family
00:13:29.940 names their kid,
00:13:31.040 Azale, like Azazel.
00:13:32.660 Sounds like Azazel.
00:13:34.400 Right, right, right.
00:13:36.500 And we also got a Solomon
00:13:37.860 on the other side.
00:13:38.880 So I'm just putting,
00:13:40.100 we have to understand
00:13:41.100 who Joseph Smith was,
00:13:42.280 much as you're trying to ask me,
00:13:43.520 like, well, who are you, Heidi?
00:13:44.940 Well, who was Joseph, right?
00:13:46.200 So we have to understand
00:13:47.680 a little bit about him
00:13:48.580 to understand what the heck
00:13:49.620 he was doing,
00:13:50.300 what he got himself into,
00:13:51.260 and what he said he created.
00:13:52.660 So this is his mother,
00:13:54.380 Lucy Mack Smith,
00:13:55.380 and I've never included
00:13:56.220 a photo before,
00:13:57.120 but for this,
00:13:57.880 I read it this.
00:13:59.500 And I think it's really important
00:14:00.880 to read about
00:14:01.660 this little excerpt,
00:14:03.020 and this is in the library
00:14:04.760 from the Church History Museum.
00:14:07.260 So you guys can figure this
00:14:08.640 and find it.
00:14:09.420 I'm not lying.
00:14:10.600 But it's a little note
00:14:12.040 she wrote to someone else.
00:14:13.400 But this part right here
00:14:14.440 is really important.
00:14:15.980 So she says,
00:14:17.100 let not my reader suppose
00:14:18.880 that because I shall pursue
00:14:20.200 another topic for a season
00:14:21.560 that we stopped our labor
00:14:22.820 and win it trying to win
00:14:24.000 the faculty of a BRAC,
00:14:26.100 drawing circles,
00:14:27.300 or soothsaying to the neglect
00:14:28.800 of all kinds of business.
00:14:30.680 Okay, she's basically saying
00:14:32.060 that they're not lazy
00:14:32.960 because they kind of got accused
00:14:34.420 of being lazy a lot.
00:14:35.740 But when she says
00:14:36.740 the faculty of a BRAC,
00:14:38.320 right, like a BRAC says,
00:14:40.040 this is a BRAC.
00:14:40.880 Yeah, you're talking about
00:14:41.820 the chicken snake god, right?
00:14:43.800 Chicken snake god
00:14:44.980 and the abracadabra.
00:14:46.940 You know, there's a reason
00:14:48.040 why Joseph Smith
00:14:50.700 kind of gets stuck
00:14:51.900 in an occult box
00:14:52.920 for those that have eyes to see
00:14:54.320 and ears to hear.
00:14:55.380 What she's talking about
00:14:56.700 is drawing magic circles,
00:14:59.540 which is not this,
00:15:00.400 but also a BRAC
00:15:02.000 and these little pyramids
00:15:03.840 you draw for like manifestation.
00:15:06.360 These are like
00:15:07.120 manifestation triangles.
00:15:08.340 And there's a reason
00:15:09.680 why we say these words.
00:15:10.760 Like even though,
00:15:12.140 you know,
00:15:12.420 they come old hat to us,
00:15:13.960 right?
00:15:14.260 These are magical words
00:15:16.040 and they mean something.
00:15:17.280 So we're kind of finding out
00:15:18.320 a tiny bit about Joseph.
00:15:20.160 And I have to tell you,
00:15:21.500 Joseph spent a lot of time
00:15:22.540 with his mom
00:15:23.200 because he got typhoid fever
00:15:25.340 when he was young
00:15:26.120 and it settled into his leg
00:15:27.720 and he got osteomyelitis
00:15:29.080 and his leg should have been cut off.
00:15:30.780 But she was known as a healer
00:15:32.540 and she was a magical folk healer
00:15:35.080 and she actually called
00:15:36.760 for physicians from Harvard.
00:15:39.120 Okay, these people
00:15:40.040 are supposed to be
00:15:40.940 lay country folk
00:15:42.320 that can't read or write,
00:15:43.700 nothing.
00:15:44.380 And she's calling
00:15:45.440 for doctors from Harvard.
00:15:46.800 So I'm like,
00:15:47.500 first off, bull.
00:15:48.940 That's a red flag, right?
00:15:50.400 Yeah, exactly.
00:15:51.760 She knew some people.
00:15:52.740 Let's get real.
00:15:53.260 And I don't blame her.
00:15:53.960 I'd call him too
00:15:54.580 if it was my kid.
00:15:55.840 But like she didn't want
00:15:56.780 his leg chopped off.
00:15:57.640 Back then that was a pretty bad deal
00:15:59.200 because you need,
00:16:00.180 you know,
00:16:00.520 to work and all the things.
00:16:01.920 Like even nowadays,
00:16:02.880 it'd be hard.
00:16:04.140 But so they came in
00:16:05.440 and actually took out
00:16:06.540 the infected bone multiple times.
00:16:08.560 And so he had to recover a lot.
00:16:10.260 And if you know anything
00:16:10.920 about people that are stuck and sick,
00:16:13.220 like JFK was one,
00:16:14.580 they are usually turned
00:16:15.700 into voracious readers
00:16:16.840 because there was no TV.
00:16:18.860 Like what was he going
00:16:19.580 to do with himself?
00:16:20.520 You know?
00:16:21.760 So he is 14
00:16:24.600 when this vision happens
00:16:26.060 that I'm showing you here.
00:16:27.220 He gets better
00:16:27.860 and he's known as a scryer.
00:16:31.160 He's actually known
00:16:31.900 as a virgin scryer.
00:16:33.280 And his dad said
00:16:34.200 when he was born,
00:16:35.000 he was born in a call.
00:16:36.300 And he was really excited about it
00:16:37.900 because that means
00:16:38.620 the bag came out intact.
00:16:40.760 And so it was a mystical sign
00:16:43.400 and he was super excited.
00:16:45.580 So from the time Joseph...
00:16:46.860 Can I interrupt for a second?
00:16:47.460 Yeah.
00:16:47.860 What is a scryer?
00:16:50.120 So we'll get there.
00:16:51.680 I got a picture for you.
00:16:52.860 Gotcha.
00:16:53.180 So he is born in this call
00:16:55.500 and from the time
00:16:56.480 he could probably walk and talk,
00:16:57.960 he's been told,
00:16:58.700 you're magical.
00:16:59.460 So I'm sure that he was
00:17:00.660 in his own mind.
00:17:02.680 And 14,
00:17:03.800 he wanted to figure out
00:17:05.220 what church to join.
00:17:06.560 He was growing up
00:17:07.780 in the burned over district.
00:17:09.160 He's circled by all these churches
00:17:11.040 and different denominations.
00:17:12.940 And, you know,
00:17:13.780 everything is really
00:17:14.900 going around him
00:17:16.720 at this time
00:17:17.280 with religion
00:17:17.900 in a big way.
00:17:20.020 So he goes out
00:17:20.920 because he says
00:17:21.620 he read a chapter
00:17:22.640 in the Bible
00:17:23.220 that says,
00:17:23.640 let ye ask of God.
00:17:25.040 So he goes out
00:17:26.040 to pray about it
00:17:26.900 and he says this
00:17:27.860 and this will become important
00:17:28.920 multiple times
00:17:29.680 in our chat.
00:17:30.820 A fit of darkness
00:17:31.880 came around him
00:17:33.020 and swirled around him
00:17:34.260 till he kind of passed out.
00:17:36.000 And when he awoke,
00:17:37.140 God the Father
00:17:38.000 and the Son
00:17:39.000 were there.
00:17:39.580 They are not the same people
00:17:40.720 for Mormons.
00:17:41.560 Just so you know,
00:17:42.080 they're all three separate.
00:17:43.500 The Holy Ghost.
00:17:44.580 The Holy Ghost wasn't there.
00:17:46.040 But he saw them
00:17:47.280 and they spoke directly to him
00:17:48.780 and said,
00:17:49.200 do not join any church
00:17:50.340 because we're going
00:17:51.180 to help you
00:17:52.000 figure out
00:17:52.560 what you should do.
00:17:54.060 Okay.
00:17:54.780 So he says
00:17:56.360 he had this whole thing.
00:17:58.140 Well, then another thing
00:17:59.900 came to see him
00:18:00.740 which was Moroni
00:18:01.760 and that is on top
00:18:03.220 of every Mormon temple.
00:18:04.820 The next photo
00:18:05.380 is on the temples.
00:18:07.240 I think they're kind of
00:18:08.400 shying away from it now
00:18:09.620 but usually they are.
00:18:12.040 And Moroni is said
00:18:13.120 to be an angel.
00:18:14.780 Well, here we are again
00:18:15.760 talking about words.
00:18:17.860 Angels never had bodies.
00:18:20.220 This man was supposedly
00:18:21.860 an old warrior,
00:18:23.920 a Native American warrior
00:18:25.200 that was all white
00:18:26.400 and exceedingly white now
00:18:28.660 and supposedly lived
00:18:30.240 in the Americas.
00:18:30.920 And so he was already said
00:18:35.140 to be resurrected basically.
00:18:37.840 And so he comes to Joseph
00:18:39.520 to tell him
00:18:40.160 where these plates are
00:18:41.480 that he needs to go dig up
00:18:42.700 in his backyard
00:18:43.480 because he has a bum leg.
00:18:45.600 Come on.
00:18:45.800 So are you saying, Heidi,
00:18:46.940 that there's the precedence
00:18:48.640 for that name Moroni
00:18:49.660 is that of a basically
00:18:51.660 a Native American spirit?
00:18:54.300 Yes.
00:18:54.800 I believe this is a spirit
00:18:56.740 and I don't believe
00:18:57.900 he was high on mushrooms.
00:18:59.260 I actually believe
00:19:00.520 that he was magically
00:19:02.280 summoning things
00:19:03.440 and I'll show you guys why.
00:19:05.040 Oh, that's interesting.
00:19:05.940 By the way,
00:19:06.400 Not Nice Guy said that
00:19:07.740 the golden trumpet blower
00:19:11.980 is Moroni.
00:19:13.020 Yes.
00:19:13.600 Yep, Moroni.
00:19:14.600 And that's the next photo.
00:19:15.620 So it's this right here.
00:19:17.300 Well, and if you know
00:19:18.220 anything about trumpets,
00:19:19.380 actually, that's fascinating
00:19:20.800 because if you know anything
00:19:22.240 about Solomonic magic practitioners,
00:19:24.340 trumpets are really important.
00:19:26.140 And so we're going to get there.
00:19:28.080 But these trumpets are sounded
00:19:30.220 to wake in the spirits
00:19:32.140 to come visit you
00:19:33.060 if you're trying to use necromancy
00:19:35.540 and such things
00:19:36.300 to bring them here.
00:19:37.460 So I find that fascinating.
00:19:40.460 So for 200 years,
00:19:42.080 our official church history
00:19:43.240 never promoted
00:19:43.960 the seer stone hypothesis,
00:19:45.280 which I'm going to talk
00:19:46.320 to you guys about.
00:19:47.600 However, in the past decade,
00:19:48.980 a major shift
00:19:49.760 has prompted
00:19:50.320 many Latter-day Saints
00:19:51.480 to abandon
00:19:51.960 the traditional narrative.
00:19:52.980 And now we all know
00:19:55.220 that there was a stone
00:19:56.180 involved with these plates
00:19:57.840 that he received.
00:19:59.240 The story of the plates alone
00:20:00.880 when he received those
00:20:02.020 is also interesting.
00:20:03.140 But this is what I was shown
00:20:04.540 as a kid growing up
00:20:06.040 because I'm older.
00:20:07.600 I was born in the 70s.
00:20:09.400 So, you know,
00:20:10.320 we were told this was
00:20:11.240 how this went down.
00:20:12.320 He was studious,
00:20:13.260 like telling on the other
00:20:14.460 side of the sheet.
00:20:15.240 This is, you know,
00:20:15.960 one of his scribes.
00:20:17.000 He had multiple.
00:20:18.040 But most likely
00:20:18.960 this is Martin Harris
00:20:19.940 at this point.
00:20:20.680 But, you know,
00:20:21.660 what to translate
00:20:22.760 and from a book,
00:20:24.200 from these plates.
00:20:25.480 Well, that's not really
00:20:27.180 the story.
00:20:28.340 And the church
00:20:29.080 likes to pregame
00:20:31.060 these things
00:20:31.720 or postgame these things.
00:20:33.380 And I do feel
00:20:33.980 they did this
00:20:34.660 with this situation.
00:20:36.600 I remember this part.
00:20:37.480 Yes, this is what's
00:20:38.960 really going on.
00:20:40.060 And if you've seen
00:20:40.680 the South Park episode,
00:20:41.860 it's actually
00:20:42.680 historically factual.
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00:22:13.900 I remember when it came out
00:22:15.700 thinking,
00:22:16.340 this is crazy
00:22:17.400 because I was a Mormon
00:22:18.160 and I was like,
00:22:18.840 this is nuts.
00:22:19.420 Like, there's no way.
00:22:21.020 And unfortunately,
00:22:23.080 actually, it's true.
00:22:24.380 This is more accurate
00:22:25.980 than what we saw
00:22:27.980 on the previous picture,
00:22:29.320 even though that's what
00:22:30.100 I was told my entire life.
00:22:31.680 And so,
00:22:32.680 to get away from
00:22:35.560 this weird stigma
00:22:36.720 because they knew
00:22:37.540 it was coming out,
00:22:38.560 like the internet
00:22:39.500 has been a horrible
00:22:40.640 nail in the coffin
00:22:42.020 for the church.
00:22:43.300 This is the current...
00:22:44.080 This is actually the same case,
00:22:44.880 by the way,
00:22:45.400 with Jehovah Witnesses.
00:22:47.600 Yes.
00:22:47.900 Jehovah Witnesses have been...
00:22:49.480 The internet is the bane
00:22:50.380 of their existence.
00:22:51.220 And the way they arm
00:22:51.860 themselves against it
00:22:52.860 is to just say that
00:22:54.000 anything that you see
00:22:56.060 on the internet
00:22:56.620 that is...
00:22:58.060 Yep, fake.
00:22:59.180 Not only is it fake,
00:23:00.420 but it is prophecy,
00:23:02.560 the fulfillment of prophecy
00:23:03.460 because one day
00:23:04.160 they will seek
00:23:04.720 to persecute us
00:23:05.800 and this is a manifestation
00:23:07.400 of that persecution.
00:23:08.640 So,
00:23:09.500 it's an interesting defense
00:23:11.260 because I am not
00:23:13.160 discounting the idea
00:23:14.460 that one day
00:23:15.260 followers of
00:23:16.760 some form of Christianity
00:23:19.260 or another
00:23:20.180 will be persecuted,
00:23:21.900 but I do also
00:23:22.620 find it convenient
00:23:23.340 that it's a built-in
00:23:24.260 defense system
00:23:25.340 that is...
00:23:26.080 Oh, for sure.
00:23:27.120 You know,
00:23:27.420 self-investing.
00:23:27.520 Because they use it
00:23:28.180 to their advantage,
00:23:29.180 yeah.
00:23:29.460 And Mormons say
00:23:30.180 the same thing
00:23:30.780 because they constantly
00:23:31.600 are talking about
00:23:32.180 how persecuted they are.
00:23:33.640 But this hat
00:23:34.560 has never been seen.
00:23:35.640 I'll tell you guys,
00:23:36.380 this was a big surprise.
00:23:37.440 This is the current
00:23:38.080 president, prophet,
00:23:39.040 seer, and revelator
00:23:39.840 of the church.
00:23:40.740 This is Russell M. Nelson.
00:23:43.000 And, you know,
00:23:44.040 these prophets
00:23:44.680 commune with God.
00:23:45.960 They literally talk to God.
00:23:47.260 And so, you know,
00:23:49.900 when he pulled this hat
00:23:50.860 out of the deep,
00:23:51.620 dark archives,
00:23:52.820 I about dropped my coffee.
00:23:54.600 Like, even though
00:23:55.140 I was out for a minute,
00:23:56.320 I was like,
00:23:56.920 oh my gosh,
00:23:59.140 like, this is wild.
00:24:01.180 And so, yeah,
00:24:02.280 he did that.
00:24:03.020 But this guy,
00:24:03.860 he's a little bit different
00:24:04.780 than most prophets.
00:24:06.080 He's actually a member
00:24:07.520 of the University of Utah's
00:24:09.140 Secret Society,
00:24:10.060 Skull and Bones.
00:24:11.100 Whoa.
00:24:11.460 And, yeah.
00:24:12.900 And Al and Key,
00:24:14.160 which is like scrolling key.
00:24:15.420 And I have talked to Mark
00:24:16.300 about this.
00:24:16.820 Me and him have
00:24:17.320 kind of chatted
00:24:18.500 and we've established
00:24:20.440 and through the internet
00:24:22.200 that this was set up
00:24:23.500 by actual sanctioned
00:24:25.200 members from Yale.
00:24:26.740 And do they acknowledge
00:24:28.260 them today?
00:24:28.920 That's not on the table.
00:24:30.460 But it was originally
00:24:31.880 set up by sanctioned
00:24:33.940 members.
00:24:34.460 So, you know,
00:24:35.460 Yale's pretty persnickety.
00:24:36.740 I don't think they're
00:24:37.400 going to come out now
00:24:38.220 and be like,
00:24:38.740 yeah, there are peeps.
00:24:39.860 But they were at one time.
00:24:41.440 So, so that's
00:24:43.920 an interesting thing.
00:24:44.800 And Russell M. Nelson
00:24:45.660 has been plagued
00:24:46.560 by many problems.
00:24:47.740 His daughter had
00:24:48.980 a child abuse
00:24:50.020 SRA case
00:24:51.180 against her
00:24:52.080 that was
00:24:53.780 conveniently dropped
00:24:55.060 that got real weird.
00:24:56.240 And I'm just going
00:24:57.040 to tell people
00:24:57.580 you guys can find
00:24:58.660 the book Paper Dolls.
00:25:00.380 I also have
00:25:01.540 a full episode
00:25:02.800 on this
00:25:03.360 called The Pace
00:25:04.140 Memorandum.
00:25:05.740 And Justin Riggs
00:25:06.800 does a lot with this.
00:25:07.940 So, really great work.
00:25:10.120 And so,
00:25:11.160 this is just
00:25:11.880 a nice little picture
00:25:13.200 of the magician
00:25:13.900 because I figured
00:25:15.180 we're going to get there
00:25:16.200 with Joseph.
00:25:17.000 This is kind of
00:25:18.460 a rendition
00:25:19.800 someone did online
00:25:21.080 of what Joseph
00:25:22.640 was doing.
00:25:23.420 You know,
00:25:23.640 treasure digging.
00:25:24.440 They were known
00:25:24.920 as treasure diggers.
00:25:26.280 Joseph was known
00:25:27.080 as a glass looker
00:25:28.020 and a treasure digger.
00:25:29.280 And he was
00:25:30.200 kind of prophetic.
00:25:31.560 You know,
00:25:31.840 he would be looking
00:25:33.040 in his hat
00:25:33.680 and tell them,
00:25:34.440 oh, you go dig here,
00:25:35.620 dig there.
00:25:36.180 And his dad
00:25:37.040 was also part of it.
00:25:39.380 So, this is
00:25:40.120 a more accurate view
00:25:41.760 of what
00:25:42.560 actually was going on
00:25:44.860 instead of,
00:25:45.840 you know,
00:25:46.140 writing at the desk
00:25:47.440 and inscribing
00:25:48.780 all the things he had.
00:25:50.260 This is what was up.
00:25:51.300 And this little pouch
00:25:52.380 is going to be important.
00:25:53.380 It's holding some layman's
00:25:55.060 and just remember that
00:25:56.080 we'll get to those
00:25:57.160 and their parchment papers.
00:25:58.960 The seer stone
00:25:59.820 is in his hand
00:26:00.580 and the white hat
00:26:01.300 that you saw
00:26:01.900 with the prophet there.
00:26:03.140 I'm seeing a lot of things
00:26:04.440 that when you see
00:26:05.300 this pouch,
00:26:06.060 it's almost indicative
00:26:07.020 of Freemasonry.
00:26:10.040 You know,
00:26:10.220 the aprons that they wear,
00:26:11.680 they look very much
00:26:12.440 reminiscent of an envelope.
00:26:15.980 This top hat
00:26:16.860 makes an appearance
00:26:18.260 a lot,
00:26:19.160 especially in sort of
00:26:20.340 the more esoteric circles.
00:26:22.380 There are high priests
00:26:23.720 involved with the church.
00:26:25.640 Sorry, David.
00:26:27.000 What's up?
00:26:27.280 Are you getting...
00:26:27.940 I'm getting an echo.
00:26:29.220 Are you getting an echo too?
00:26:29.960 I'm getting an echo
00:26:32.020 from you,
00:26:32.700 but I don't know
00:26:33.440 if it's me
00:26:34.100 or I have my volume
00:26:35.120 turned all the way down,
00:26:36.060 so I'm afraid
00:26:36.480 that the microphone
00:26:38.560 might be picking up
00:26:39.240 the headphones,
00:26:39.880 but my volume...
00:26:42.120 It's just weird.
00:26:43.320 All right,
00:26:43.560 so I'm getting an echo
00:26:44.160 from myself.
00:26:46.340 We're going to try
00:26:47.220 and remedy that.
00:26:48.660 Just bear with us, guys.
00:26:49.860 But on the topic
00:26:51.520 of this hat,
00:26:53.080 there's also
00:26:53.560 this precedent
00:26:54.140 for sort of like...
00:26:55.880 I forget what the expression
00:26:57.340 is that you would use,
00:26:58.100 but it's a high-ranking...
00:26:58.960 sort of brief
00:27:02.340 or something like that.
00:27:03.800 Magician.
00:27:04.200 Magician inside
00:27:04.840 of the Church of Satan.
00:27:05.980 They wear these top hats.
00:27:07.040 Oh, yeah,
00:27:07.280 like Zachary King.
00:27:08.200 Uh-huh.
00:27:08.580 Yeah.
00:27:08.820 Yes.
00:27:09.200 Yes.
00:27:09.860 Yes, I've talked
00:27:10.400 to Zachary King.
00:27:11.140 Yeah, for sure.
00:27:12.520 They, you know,
00:27:13.520 the top hats...
00:27:14.580 And Joseph is like...
00:27:16.280 They've admitted
00:27:16.900 in the church now
00:27:17.820 that he was a Freemason.
00:27:18.920 He was a Master Mason.
00:27:20.040 His brother's name
00:27:20.640 is Hiram,
00:27:21.240 for heaven's sakes.
00:27:22.360 For years,
00:27:23.100 they said,
00:27:23.640 no, no,
00:27:24.320 it's not.
00:27:24.940 And now they have
00:27:25.580 like a little video
00:27:26.440 if you go on YouTube.
00:27:27.880 Oh, so you heard
00:27:29.080 the church has Masons.
00:27:30.460 I'm like,
00:27:31.180 what?
00:27:31.760 What is happening?
00:27:32.980 I want to say that
00:27:33.740 like when it comes to this,
00:27:34.880 a lot of people
00:27:35.500 will outright dismiss,
00:27:37.120 you know,
00:27:37.940 the story of Joseph Smith.
00:27:40.320 But it sort of circles
00:27:42.220 around this idea
00:27:43.760 of like Christian mysticism.
00:27:45.040 Oh, it is Christian mysticism.
00:27:47.900 We're going to...
00:27:48.100 Right.
00:27:48.400 And there are these
00:27:49.220 elements within it
00:27:52.120 that like,
00:27:53.680 you know,
00:27:53.980 they...
00:27:54.660 It almost seems like
00:27:55.860 in my opinion,
00:27:57.580 nothing long lasting
00:27:58.940 is built on lies.
00:28:02.240 In other words,
00:28:03.120 if your foundation is lies,
00:28:04.680 then inevitably
00:28:06.140 it will fall apart.
00:28:07.400 And I do recognize
00:28:08.560 that obviously
00:28:09.360 the Mormons
00:28:10.620 are being exposed
00:28:11.320 on the internet
00:28:11.780 and it's not good for them.
00:28:13.440 But I do think
00:28:14.120 in order to create something
00:28:15.240 that resonates with people,
00:28:16.620 there has to be
00:28:17.340 an element of truth
00:28:18.260 within it.
00:28:19.220 And so,
00:28:19.840 to that point,
00:28:21.460 I will say that
00:28:22.840 Mormonism,
00:28:24.400 just what I'm looking at here
00:28:26.240 is they
00:28:26.820 were clamoring
00:28:28.480 to something esoteric
00:28:30.780 that maybe the main church
00:28:32.380 does not want to touch.
00:28:34.660 But...
00:28:34.860 No.
00:28:35.660 They don't.
00:28:37.080 Right.
00:28:37.340 And there's something...
00:28:38.260 There's an element
00:28:38.800 of truth here.
00:28:39.640 Otherwise,
00:28:40.080 it would not resonate
00:28:40.920 with people
00:28:41.420 and you would not be able
00:28:42.260 to build your structures on it.
00:28:44.940 The foundation
00:28:45.600 would be crumbling.
00:28:47.300 And so,
00:28:47.660 this is...
00:28:48.340 Honestly,
00:28:48.880 I'm almost getting frustrated
00:28:50.380 because everything you're saying
00:28:52.360 just keeps hitting me so hard
00:28:54.100 and it's getting me excited.
00:28:55.380 And I'm like,
00:28:55.820 already think...
00:28:56.560 I know this is ridiculous,
00:28:57.580 but I'm already thinking
00:28:58.420 about the future.
00:28:59.160 I'm like,
00:28:59.360 how do we convince Heidi
00:29:00.840 to keep coming back?
00:29:02.120 Because there's something
00:29:02.980 really interesting here.
00:29:04.420 But I'm sorry
00:29:05.660 to have derailed you.
00:29:06.940 Go ahead.
00:29:07.620 No, no, you're fine.
00:29:09.020 So, this is one
00:29:09.960 of Joseph's many rocks
00:29:11.120 and the church
00:29:11.660 does admit to a couple.
00:29:13.380 They like to say
00:29:14.040 this one was the one,
00:29:15.520 but here's the thing.
00:29:16.520 We're going to show you one
00:29:17.760 that they won't even allow
00:29:18.720 a picture to be taken of.
00:29:19.980 And when I say
00:29:20.600 they are pulling things
00:29:21.680 out of vaults,
00:29:23.160 I mean it.
00:29:24.040 There are tunnels
00:29:24.800 underneath Salt Lake City
00:29:26.060 that are crazy
00:29:26.840 and the church owns
00:29:27.740 a lot of them.
00:29:28.740 So, I have a whole show
00:29:30.000 on tunnels.
00:29:30.720 But this is
00:29:31.920 a really weird situation
00:29:33.580 and they'll let
00:29:35.580 this one be shown
00:29:36.540 but not the other.
00:29:37.620 But this one
00:29:38.140 was kind of stolen.
00:29:39.260 So, Willard Chase
00:29:40.080 is the neighbor
00:29:41.200 to Joseph Smith
00:29:42.040 and he was digging
00:29:42.700 a well with Joseph
00:29:44.480 on their property,
00:29:45.840 on Willard Chase's property
00:29:47.120 and Joseph asked
00:29:48.060 to borrow the rock
00:29:49.080 that he found
00:29:49.640 and they just
00:29:50.940 never gave it back.
00:29:52.000 So, Mormonism
00:29:52.640 is built upon
00:29:53.500 a stolen rock.
00:29:55.320 Nice.
00:29:56.760 They're usually
00:29:58.000 when you say
00:29:58.520 a seer stone,
00:29:59.360 they go,
00:29:59.780 yeah, there was one.
00:30:00.780 No, there was upwards
00:30:01.740 of like eight or ten.
00:30:02.840 This is the green one
00:30:04.280 that they mention often.
00:30:06.340 This is the one
00:30:07.240 they won't let anyone
00:30:08.040 take a picture of
00:30:09.080 because it's just
00:30:09.700 an artist's rendition.
00:30:11.220 See, this is incredible
00:30:12.560 because so much
00:30:13.640 of our conversations
00:30:14.440 here on Nephilim
00:30:15.120 Death Squad
00:30:15.600 lately have been
00:30:16.580 surrounding these
00:30:17.540 seemingly magical artifacts
00:30:19.680 and, you know,
00:30:22.160 in the same breath
00:30:23.060 that the Christian church
00:30:24.360 does not want
00:30:25.300 to make that part
00:30:26.180 of the conversation,
00:30:27.980 they are also,
00:30:29.680 you know,
00:30:30.320 talking about
00:30:31.440 the Ark of the Covenant.
00:30:32.420 There is precedent
00:30:33.320 for whether or not
00:30:34.020 the stone that hit Goliath
00:30:35.380 was something more
00:30:36.180 than just a stone
00:30:37.040 or we did an episode
00:30:38.420 with Prometheus Lens recently,
00:30:40.140 Prometheus Lens podcast.
00:30:41.860 Yes, Justin is excellent
00:30:43.260 and he laid out
00:30:44.640 a really compelling case
00:30:45.520 for this idea
00:30:46.120 that the coat of many colors
00:30:47.160 that Joseph had
00:30:47.960 was actually
00:30:48.720 a priestly robe
00:30:51.420 that was removed
00:30:52.160 from the Nakash
00:30:52.860 in the garden
00:30:53.400 when the fall of man happened.
00:30:56.360 And so,
00:30:56.740 there is so much
00:30:58.320 having to do
00:30:59.300 with these ancient artifacts
00:31:00.460 and you know damn well
00:31:03.220 that the Vatican
00:31:04.140 more than likely
00:31:04.900 has a basement
00:31:05.520 filled with things
00:31:06.440 but these are not
00:31:07.220 part of the conversations.
00:31:08.640 I have a little bit
00:31:11.020 of throughout this episode,
00:31:15.480 it's only been 30 minutes,
00:31:16.680 I got to admit
00:31:17.320 my affection
00:31:18.840 for the Mormon church
00:31:19.680 is growing
00:31:20.160 just because they have
00:31:21.800 a willingness
00:31:22.240 to explore these things
00:31:23.520 whereas Christianity
00:31:24.320 I feel like
00:31:25.120 has homogenized itself
00:31:26.340 to make it palatable
00:31:27.440 for the average person
00:31:28.660 and that was a mistake.
00:31:30.860 Yes, yeah,
00:31:31.640 it's definitely,
00:31:33.000 I mean,
00:31:33.460 these mystery schools
00:31:34.560 are there for a reason,
00:31:36.680 they continue for a reason
00:31:37.880 and you know,
00:31:39.640 why,
00:31:40.300 if it didn't work
00:31:41.160 like you said,
00:31:41.800 why would they continue,
00:31:43.120 right?
00:31:44.040 Why would they continue them?
00:31:45.680 And so,
00:31:46.380 I mean,
00:31:46.700 I just find that interesting
00:31:48.060 and so,
00:31:48.760 of course,
00:31:49.400 they continued in churches
00:31:50.780 because at one point
00:31:52.600 you had to hide magic
00:31:54.060 within,
00:31:55.040 you know,
00:31:55.840 churchy stuff,
00:31:57.000 you know,
00:31:57.800 or else you might get killed
00:31:59.080 and so,
00:32:00.220 and speaking of that,
00:32:01.980 his grandpa
00:32:02.600 was well aware of that
00:32:03.740 because he was involved
00:32:04.840 in the Salem Witch Trials
00:32:06.080 Inquisition
00:32:06.760 and not on the bad side of it.
00:32:11.980 Uh-oh,
00:32:13.340 give me a second,
00:32:14.280 let's see,
00:32:14.900 we got to get Heidi back,
00:32:15.940 we lost her for a second here.
00:32:17.320 Okay.
00:32:18.420 All right.
00:32:18.820 That was gone.
00:32:19.540 Did that help?
00:32:19.960 We're good.
00:32:20.440 Let's do this presentation.
00:32:22.420 Let's do it,
00:32:23.260 we're back.
00:32:24.240 All right,
00:32:24.580 everybody,
00:32:25.120 everyone in the audience
00:32:25.820 act like that didn't happen.
00:32:27.180 Here we go.
00:32:27.660 Yeah.
00:32:27.900 And it didn't happen.
00:32:28.420 And act like my dog was out there,
00:32:29.940 he had to piss,
00:32:30.540 it's been a disaster so far
00:32:31.620 but we're picking it up,
00:32:33.200 we're doing it now.
00:32:34.260 I missed the beginning
00:32:35.460 on how Mormonism started
00:32:36.940 but it was this guy
00:32:38.000 looking into a hat.
00:32:38.920 We're not going back.
00:32:39.540 I'll re-watch the episode.
00:32:40.640 Okay, perfect.
00:32:41.220 Yeah, no, you're good.
00:32:42.140 Heidi, we were just about
00:32:43.200 to get into something
00:32:44.160 that was really interesting.
00:32:45.680 Let me share this again
00:32:47.020 and then I'll minimize.
00:32:48.900 Yes.
00:32:49.340 Can you hear me okay?
00:32:50.480 Oh, we hear you.
00:32:50.900 Perfect.
00:32:51.380 Now, everything's crushing.
00:32:52.420 All right, good.
00:32:54.060 Okay, so on this slide.
00:32:57.560 Now, these were exactly
00:32:59.540 how the plates were actually obtained
00:33:01.340 and I have to tell you guys.
00:33:03.580 Yeah, why is there a frog?
00:33:05.260 So many years after the angel came,
00:33:08.280 Joseph had to go back and forth
00:33:09.800 and back and forth
00:33:10.700 to the spot where these plates were
00:33:13.360 to see if he was good enough
00:33:14.820 to get the plates
00:33:15.920 and oftentimes he wasn't.
00:33:17.900 And so one of the times
00:33:19.380 the angel said,
00:33:20.660 you know,
00:33:21.060 do all these certain things
00:33:22.520 and if you don't do it just right,
00:33:24.160 then, you know,
00:33:25.540 you're not going to get them.
00:33:26.700 And he did almost
00:33:27.800 what he was supposed to,
00:33:28.840 but then he didn't do it
00:33:29.940 exactly right.
00:33:30.660 So this frog,
00:33:31.560 something like a frog,
00:33:33.220 a toad came and punched him.
00:33:35.420 It turned into a man
00:33:36.440 and punched him in the face.
00:33:37.560 And so he went to get these plates.
00:33:41.020 He had to dress.
00:33:41.940 This sounds super churchy.
00:33:43.420 He had to dress all in black.
00:33:44.960 He had to go on the fall equinox.
00:33:47.320 He had to do it at a certain time,
00:33:49.200 like with the moons
00:33:50.120 and the alignment and everything.
00:33:51.820 He had to borrow a black horse
00:33:53.880 with a black switch
00:33:55.060 and all this crazy stuff.
00:33:56.500 I mean, it sounds super not Christian.
00:33:59.400 It sounds super.
00:34:00.020 But that frog stuff,
00:34:01.520 that frog stuff
00:34:02.680 seems to come up a lot, right?
00:34:04.700 Yes.
00:34:05.640 In Merkel's work,
00:34:06.920 the guy who made a deal.
00:34:08.900 Okay, so yeah,
00:34:09.540 you're familiar.
00:34:10.040 He made a deal
00:34:10.640 or his brother made a deal
00:34:12.000 with Paul.
00:34:12.860 With Val.
00:34:13.820 Yeah, I was shocked.
00:34:15.660 He's followed by that frog
00:34:16.700 in the Bible and Revelations.
00:34:19.180 Yeah, toads are witches familiars.
00:34:20.920 I mean,
00:34:21.160 they can use them
00:34:22.260 to manifest
00:34:23.060 or carry out other things.
00:34:24.920 And so witches familiars.
00:34:26.560 they're in dual nature.
00:34:29.220 They're both aquatic
00:34:30.440 and land dwelling.
00:34:32.460 So it's almost like
00:34:33.600 spiritually,
00:34:35.100 they can exist in two realms.
00:34:37.820 And I wonder if that,
00:34:38.940 because when you're talking
00:34:39.520 about wearing a certain color
00:34:41.000 and we know that color,
00:34:42.420 you know, black,
00:34:43.060 but we know that color
00:34:43.860 is linked to vibration, right?
00:34:46.920 It's literally just light
00:34:48.500 vibrating at different speeds.
00:34:49.860 That's what generates
00:34:50.460 different colors.
00:34:51.280 So there's a vibrational
00:34:52.640 energy aspect.
00:34:53.800 You have to be
00:34:54.300 at a certain location
00:34:55.460 during the fall equinox,
00:34:56.860 which to me suggests
00:34:57.740 that there's maybe
00:34:58.760 an issue with like
00:34:59.920 a thin spot in the veil
00:35:01.260 kind of a deal.
00:35:02.080 Yeah.
00:35:02.360 Where like sometimes
00:35:03.080 the energy is different
00:35:04.080 and you can interact
00:35:05.720 with a spiritual realm.
00:35:07.860 Right, right.
00:35:08.600 Honestly,
00:35:09.880 I understand people's
00:35:11.620 reluctance.
00:35:12.680 I think they hid.
00:35:13.560 I think they hid
00:35:14.420 some of it too.
00:35:15.120 I swear to you guys,
00:35:16.200 there's probably
00:35:16.700 a blood magic present
00:35:18.320 with this situation.
00:35:19.720 I wouldn't be surprised,
00:35:21.720 but it sounds like,
00:35:23.080 you know,
00:35:23.260 because you're talking
00:35:23.740 about Joseph Smith
00:35:24.420 being a child.
00:35:25.920 It almost seems like
00:35:26.840 he was older by now.
00:35:28.740 He was older by now.
00:35:29.900 He was like,
00:35:30.340 but in the beginning
00:35:30.980 you explained
00:35:31.600 that they were like
00:35:32.380 telling him
00:35:33.240 that he was special.
00:35:35.960 Oh, for sure.
00:35:37.200 So when you do that
00:35:38.060 to a child,
00:35:38.740 I almost feel like
00:35:39.340 Joseph Smith,
00:35:40.300 if this is all
00:35:41.340 in fact nefarious,
00:35:42.460 was used by something spiritual.
00:35:45.040 Well, so in the book,
00:35:47.240 what's the name?
00:35:48.660 We just spoke
00:35:49.300 about it yesterday.
00:35:50.460 They came to set
00:35:51.320 their captive spree.
00:35:52.460 Yeah, one of the women
00:35:53.800 that was involved
00:35:55.640 with the occult
00:35:56.640 from a child,
00:35:58.080 I think she had
00:35:58.600 like some kind of
00:35:59.720 deformation on her face
00:36:00.980 and in this place
00:36:02.980 there was a bunch
00:36:03.720 of nurses
00:36:04.540 that were into this.
00:36:05.640 Pretty much the whole town
00:36:06.460 was into this form
00:36:08.480 of Satanism,
00:36:09.540 but they were basically like,
00:36:11.000 hey, we'll pay
00:36:11.880 for this person's surgery,
00:36:13.080 your daughter's surgery,
00:36:14.340 if you give us
00:36:15.080 a vial of her blood
00:36:15.960 or something like that.
00:36:17.180 And it seems like
00:36:18.620 they'll do that
00:36:19.320 with children
00:36:20.440 who are suffering
00:36:22.060 in distress
00:36:22.620 or at a low point.
00:36:23.960 They like to do that.
00:36:24.900 So this guy had
00:36:25.440 messed up legs
00:36:26.120 and then...
00:36:26.700 Yep, and no medication
00:36:28.100 for any of those surgeries
00:36:29.960 at all.
00:36:31.100 They did talk
00:36:32.040 quite heavily
00:36:32.940 on that situation.
00:36:34.480 Well, and then
00:36:34.920 it makes you wonder,
00:36:35.880 you know,
00:36:36.180 are they open?
00:36:37.020 When you have
00:36:37.760 a soul-splitting problem,
00:36:39.840 whether it be SRA
00:36:40.820 or physical,
00:36:42.280 you know,
00:36:42.720 mental, whatever,
00:36:44.140 you're going to be
00:36:45.000 more open
00:36:45.700 to be able
00:36:47.020 to be inhabited,
00:36:48.000 basically,
00:36:48.540 especially if he didn't know
00:36:49.820 if they were
00:36:50.540 a magical family
00:36:51.460 that I'm not talking
00:36:53.040 about any kind
00:36:53.900 of good magic.
00:36:54.620 I don't believe
00:36:55.040 there's any good magic
00:36:56.020 that way,
00:36:56.620 but there's some stuff
00:36:58.220 that's a little more
00:36:58.880 nefarious than other things.
00:37:00.840 And so they want
00:37:01.760 to push this off
00:37:02.820 in the church
00:37:03.340 as folk magic.
00:37:04.960 No, this is specific
00:37:06.860 and I'll show you why.
00:37:07.940 I have like proof.
00:37:09.740 And so,
00:37:10.020 and I didn't even
00:37:10.620 mean to find the proof.
00:37:12.460 This guy that's coming
00:37:13.200 at me says
00:37:13.780 I stole it from him,
00:37:14.660 but I was actually
00:37:15.860 looking to mystic masonry
00:37:17.800 and Martinism
00:37:18.640 and it plays hugely
00:37:20.960 into this whole story.
00:37:22.860 So, yeah,
00:37:24.880 this, this continued
00:37:26.180 and honestly,
00:37:27.340 I feel like there's,
00:37:28.900 there's another thing
00:37:29.740 we can talk about
00:37:30.460 another time called
00:37:31.400 the salamander stories
00:37:33.000 with, with Mark Hoffman
00:37:34.540 and they, they changed this
00:37:37.060 and Mark Hoffman
00:37:38.000 was a forger.
00:37:39.060 There's a book,
00:37:39.940 um, it's just called
00:37:41.020 the salamander stories.
00:37:42.480 But anyway,
00:37:43.260 Mark Hoffman's story
00:37:44.800 is here
00:37:45.880 and he was, um,
00:37:48.080 basically getting
00:37:48.940 all these documents.
00:37:49.900 He was a huge forger.
00:37:50.900 He didn't like the church.
00:37:51.820 He wanted to embarrass them.
00:37:53.220 He quit, um,
00:37:54.540 believing in the church
00:37:55.380 when he was on his mission.
00:37:57.180 But I think at some point
00:37:59.320 the church got wise
00:38:00.600 to his baloney
00:38:01.960 because he had been making
00:38:03.280 like mad money off of them,
00:38:05.500 including government documents
00:38:07.060 too as well.
00:38:07.800 but, um, they,
00:38:09.300 they said he went crazy
00:38:10.660 and made pressure cooker bombs
00:38:12.280 and like delivered them
00:38:13.280 to two people
00:38:14.160 and also tried
00:38:16.400 to blow himself up.
00:38:17.200 But there was none
00:38:18.120 of the shrapnel
00:38:18.920 in his for himself.
00:38:21.280 I mean,
00:38:21.920 if you were trying
00:38:22.600 to do a bang up job,
00:38:24.480 um,
00:38:25.760 you would do it right,
00:38:26.840 right?
00:38:27.200 Like for yourself,
00:38:28.160 like if you know
00:38:28.840 how to do it,
00:38:29.580 but if you're forced
00:38:30.880 in there,
00:38:31.120 like just deliver
00:38:31.800 these three things,
00:38:32.720 you know,
00:38:33.140 and they set one off
00:38:34.140 early or whatever
00:38:34.900 just to use him
00:38:36.380 to get this story out
00:38:37.460 because they put
00:38:38.840 this story everywhere.
00:38:40.340 They put it in their magazine
00:38:42.040 before they vetted it
00:38:43.400 and they said,
00:38:44.520 oh yeah,
00:38:45.120 you know,
00:38:45.480 this is a salamander story.
00:38:46.960 Salamander,
00:38:47.580 salamander,
00:38:48.160 salamander,
00:38:48.460 not toad.
00:38:49.420 Well,
00:38:49.760 there's a reason for that.
00:38:51.440 That salamander
00:38:52.380 is linked to alchemy
00:38:53.980 and good magic
00:38:55.140 and even the Knights Templar
00:38:57.240 because supposedly
00:38:58.620 salamanders
00:38:59.280 can resist flame
00:39:00.460 and resist fire.
00:39:02.240 And so,
00:39:03.780 you know,
00:39:04.340 I do feel like
00:39:05.380 that was a way
00:39:06.280 that they changed history
00:39:08.120 because now
00:39:08.920 if you're in the Mormon circles
00:39:10.620 where you don't know
00:39:11.820 somebody weird like me,
00:39:13.100 then you say,
00:39:14.340 you know,
00:39:14.580 a toad punched Joseph Smith
00:39:15.940 once in the face.
00:39:16.700 They'll say,
00:39:17.020 no,
00:39:17.200 that was Mark Hoffman.
00:39:18.180 He's a liar.
00:39:18.800 He's in prison.
00:39:20.080 Funny thing about Mark Hoffman
00:39:22.020 is once he went to prison,
00:39:23.580 he sang like a canary,
00:39:25.080 but all of a sudden
00:39:27.060 he stopped
00:39:27.840 and he laid on a floor
00:39:30.240 because he tried to
00:39:31.280 apparently
00:39:31.900 take himself out again
00:39:33.480 for 12 hours
00:39:35.280 when he's in solitary confinement
00:39:37.240 and no one checked on him,
00:39:38.800 but nothing happened to him
00:39:40.020 except one thing.
00:39:41.140 Guess what it was?
00:39:44.320 Sleep route.
00:39:44.880 He laid,
00:39:45.440 he laid on his arm
00:39:47.340 that he forged with
00:39:48.400 and it has permanent damage to it.
00:39:50.140 He'll never forge again.
00:39:52.120 Wait,
00:39:52.780 what?
00:39:54.340 It's a real story.
00:39:56.340 That is crazy.
00:39:57.820 So my friend's husband
00:40:00.100 actually works with these guys
00:40:01.580 because he works out at the prison.
00:40:03.440 He's still alive.
00:40:04.800 Like,
00:40:05.680 and this is real.
00:40:07.560 Like,
00:40:07.860 and I'm sorry,
00:40:08.900 that just screams to me.
00:40:10.980 Like,
00:40:11.480 they gotcha.
00:40:12.680 You know,
00:40:13.280 the Danites came for him,
00:40:14.820 which Danites is a whole nother thing,
00:40:16.360 but it's kind of like God's army
00:40:18.080 for the Mormons
00:40:18.840 and they justify plenty.
00:40:20.380 But yes,
00:40:22.000 so I do feel like
00:40:23.280 they were trying to make it
00:40:24.440 more of a white magical thing,
00:40:27.220 a good thing
00:40:28.300 instead of this dark toad magic
00:40:30.040 because that's which is familiars
00:40:31.700 and demonic stuff.
00:40:33.880 Right.
00:40:34.140 So again,
00:40:35.200 these are,
00:40:36.120 this is a rendition
00:40:36.980 from the same neighbor,
00:40:38.140 which they'll just say,
00:40:39.220 oh,
00:40:39.560 well,
00:40:39.780 he hated Joseph Smith.
00:40:41.000 That's what it is.
00:40:41.840 You know,
00:40:42.060 Willard Chase hated Joseph Smith.
00:40:44.060 And so he came up
00:40:45.040 with this really elaborate
00:40:46.500 but esoterically accurate
00:40:48.280 depiction of what was happening.
00:40:51.400 Yes.
00:40:51.880 And so he explained this
00:40:53.540 funny enough,
00:40:54.720 all of this stuff
00:40:55.680 is history.
00:40:56.840 And the reason why
00:40:57.720 I believe some of it
00:40:58.780 is because
00:40:59.640 Joseph Smith
00:41:00.840 did such a sucky job
00:41:02.280 at hunting for treasure
00:41:03.440 that somebody took him to court
00:41:05.680 and was like,
00:41:06.480 you suck.
00:41:07.520 Stop stealing from my uncle.
00:41:09.260 Cut it out.
00:41:10.080 You know,
00:41:10.520 so this is all affidavits.
00:41:12.780 These are not just willy nilly
00:41:14.300 in somebody's journal.
00:41:16.000 These are affidavits.
00:41:17.120 Everything that I'm explaining,
00:41:19.140 the toad story,
00:41:20.560 the dark clothes story,
00:41:22.080 this story,
00:41:22.820 this is all from affidavits
00:41:24.300 from his glass looking case.
00:41:26.080 I think that's important
00:41:27.120 to highlight too
00:41:27.940 for the audience
00:41:28.560 that's listening
00:41:29.120 and including myself.
00:41:30.300 It's like,
00:41:30.620 this is a religion
00:41:31.840 that was,
00:41:33.380 we're just talking about
00:41:34.040 the early 1900s,
00:41:35.100 right?
00:41:35.360 So as far as a paper trail
00:41:37.420 and one that's reliable,
00:41:40.040 these things are documented.
00:41:41.240 We're not dealing with something
00:41:42.080 that's thousands of years old
00:41:43.800 and we're going on,
00:41:45.380 you know,
00:41:45.660 second,
00:41:46.020 third hand information
00:41:46.880 and translations
00:41:47.560 and things of that nature.
00:41:48.420 Like,
00:41:48.620 no,
00:41:48.740 this happened
00:41:49.080 in the early 1900s
00:41:50.300 and there are a lot of,
00:41:52.980 there's a lot of evidence
00:41:54.520 out there that,
00:41:55.400 you know,
00:41:55.920 is readily accessible
00:41:56.720 by people.
00:41:57.800 It's just something
00:41:58.740 that you don't associate with
00:42:00.300 because when you think
00:42:01.000 of a religion,
00:42:01.640 you think of something
00:42:02.160 that's ancient typically.
00:42:03.860 So the year of the trial
00:42:05.620 of Joseph Smith,
00:42:06.660 the glass looker
00:42:07.400 is 1826,
00:42:08.480 just in case anybody
00:42:09.540 wants to see it happened
00:42:10.700 in Bainbridge, New York
00:42:12.140 and you can go examine
00:42:13.920 these things all you want.
00:42:15.520 Like these are affidavits
00:42:16.740 and different things.
00:42:17.520 He even got a ticket for it.
00:42:19.180 So, you know,
00:42:20.820 this is the ticket.
00:42:24.600 And this rendition.
00:42:25.560 Is that $2 ticket?
00:42:26.880 Yeah, it's $2.68.
00:42:28.060 He was a Mason.
00:42:28.900 Probably a judge was too.
00:42:30.300 But back then,
00:42:31.000 who knows how much that was,
00:42:32.000 right?
00:42:32.260 Like maybe $100.
00:42:33.780 They said everybody
00:42:35.020 was glass looking back then.
00:42:36.340 So it was actually
00:42:37.180 kind of unusual
00:42:38.100 to get sued for it.
00:42:39.980 So it was like jaywalking,
00:42:41.920 basically.
00:42:43.520 And I get that.
00:42:44.880 But like at the same time,
00:42:46.480 these symbols on the ground,
00:42:47.900 he explained in exact like,
00:42:51.020 like ways
00:42:51.720 and how the dad
00:42:52.580 would use a sword.
00:42:54.020 And we're going to get into
00:42:55.600 occult items
00:42:57.280 that were used by this family.
00:42:59.320 And I just feel like,
00:43:01.000 you know,
00:43:01.300 if you don't see it by now,
00:43:02.580 after we're done
00:43:03.320 with this presentation,
00:43:04.240 which is why I made it.
00:43:05.660 Because as an ex-Mormon,
00:43:07.120 I know one thing.
00:43:08.040 People will tell me immediately,
00:43:09.420 you're full of it.
00:43:10.380 You're full of crap.
00:43:11.760 Like, nope.
00:43:13.360 That didn't happen.
00:43:14.420 So a picture
00:43:15.100 says a thousand words.
00:43:16.360 Like, you can't discount
00:43:18.000 everything, you know.
00:43:19.940 And I didn't mean
00:43:20.800 to find this stuff anyways.
00:43:22.120 I was just trying
00:43:22.920 to fix my life.
00:43:24.840 I was just trying
00:43:25.860 to undo any ose I did.
00:43:28.140 And so.
00:43:28.700 I don't want to pull you
00:43:29.960 too far off topic.
00:43:31.640 Oh, my goodness.
00:43:33.880 But it looks like sigils.
00:43:36.240 And oh,
00:43:37.120 there we're getting
00:43:37.720 we're getting on it.
00:43:38.820 On the topic
00:43:40.040 of these artifacts
00:43:41.700 and even
00:43:43.220 the practices,
00:43:44.560 I often wonder
00:43:45.940 because I do
00:43:47.700 believe that
00:43:49.480 these fallen entities
00:43:51.260 cannot create anything
00:43:52.660 on their own,
00:43:53.760 but they can
00:43:54.260 invert
00:43:55.460 what God has made
00:43:57.320 and twist it.
00:43:59.600 And so
00:44:00.080 I think that leaves
00:44:01.540 an important question
00:44:02.380 when it comes to
00:44:03.440 mystic practices,
00:44:05.720 magical talismans,
00:44:06.760 various rituals
00:44:09.340 and ceremonies.
00:44:10.920 Is there
00:44:11.920 a way
00:44:12.980 where
00:44:14.300 a follower
00:44:15.760 of Jesus Christ
00:44:17.040 could take these things
00:44:18.280 and restore them
00:44:19.580 and
00:44:20.800 make them
00:44:22.420 of God
00:44:23.240 again?
00:44:24.700 Or is this
00:44:25.340 just something
00:44:26.060 that is
00:44:26.760 not this stuff?
00:44:28.480 Okay.
00:44:28.860 This stuff is gonna
00:44:29.720 we're gonna be getting
00:44:30.700 into the magus
00:44:31.680 and black magic.
00:44:33.160 I don't think so.
00:44:34.280 It's an interesting
00:44:34.780 word to use there.
00:44:35.760 Okay, let's
00:44:36.340 let's continue then.
00:44:37.340 Yep, no problem.
00:44:38.600 So these are some
00:44:39.520 of the magical items
00:44:40.760 that are associated
00:44:41.920 and well known
00:44:42.600 with Joseph Smith's family.
00:44:44.360 One of the things
00:44:45.120 was Joseph Smith's
00:44:46.320 Jupiter talisman.
00:44:47.340 Some of the other
00:44:47.960 things I'll show you
00:44:48.800 are back and forth
00:44:50.360 because they want
00:44:50.960 to be like,
00:44:51.680 oh, it was his brothers
00:44:52.800 because they died together,
00:44:53.840 but it makes no sense
00:44:55.120 for it to be his brothers
00:44:55.980 and I'll show you guys
00:44:57.160 my case on that.
00:44:58.600 But this talisman
00:44:59.480 was really actually
00:45:00.540 precious to his wife.
00:45:02.500 And so Emma
00:45:03.180 was his ride-or-die girl.
00:45:04.420 Like that woman,
00:45:05.540 I'm telling you,
00:45:06.480 she was a good one.
00:45:07.660 So even though
00:45:08.840 he was flandering
00:45:09.740 and doing all these things,
00:45:11.160 you know,
00:45:11.560 marrying up young girls
00:45:12.780 and whatever,
00:45:13.920 she stayed by his side
00:45:15.120 and she kept
00:45:15.900 a lock of hair of his
00:45:17.080 and she kept
00:45:17.840 this Jupiter talisman
00:45:18.800 until she died.
00:45:19.580 And so I'm going to show
00:45:20.940 you guys what this
00:45:21.680 Jupiter talisman is.
00:45:23.100 If you look at this
00:45:24.420 right here,
00:45:25.940 you see this.
00:45:28.100 Okay, so right there,
00:45:30.340 this is the third
00:45:31.460 pentacle of Jupiter
00:45:32.560 and this is
00:45:33.680 Solomonic magic.
00:45:35.140 The only,
00:45:36.700 yeah, this is,
00:45:37.680 I didn't even know
00:45:38.700 what Solomonic magic was
00:45:40.740 until I started
00:45:41.500 studying this stuff
00:45:42.360 and I did go on
00:45:43.240 with Dr. Justin Sledge
00:45:44.540 from the show Esoterica.
00:45:45.840 He is actually
00:45:47.240 a doctor of occult sciences
00:45:49.020 and I'm going to tell you guys,
00:45:50.460 like,
00:45:50.860 he does a whole bunch
00:45:51.760 of stuff on Solomonic magic
00:45:53.020 if you guys want
00:45:53.720 to understand it.
00:45:54.920 It's where I got
00:45:55.620 a lot of my information from
00:45:57.080 and it is
00:45:58.520 the greater and lesser
00:45:59.640 keys of Solomon.
00:46:01.120 And this here
00:46:02.740 is actually
00:46:03.780 defending and protecting
00:46:06.240 those who invoke
00:46:07.640 and cause the spirits
00:46:08.880 to come.
00:46:10.040 So there's something
00:46:11.460 important going on there.
00:46:12.980 It protects the one
00:46:14.620 who is invoking.
00:46:16.440 Okay,
00:46:16.880 we're not just
00:46:17.580 protecting ourselves
00:46:18.440 because,
00:46:19.280 you know,
00:46:20.220 we're scared,
00:46:21.140 right?
00:46:21.400 Like somebody's putting
00:46:22.160 a witch spell on me
00:46:23.420 or something.
00:46:24.020 No, no,
00:46:24.380 you're invoking
00:46:25.220 and also it makes them
00:46:28.060 do what you say,
00:46:29.520 right?
00:46:30.540 So immediately
00:46:31.960 they will obey.
00:46:33.880 This goes to Solomon
00:46:35.480 and the idea
00:46:36.400 that he entrapped,
00:46:37.420 we did an episode
00:46:38.040 on it recently
00:46:39.040 or attempted to
00:46:39.740 and our guest
00:46:40.940 dismissed it
00:46:41.560 as being,
00:46:43.340 I don't know,
00:46:43.780 Jewry of some sort.
00:46:46.120 Right, right.
00:46:47.440 There is this
00:46:48.220 entire school
00:46:49.400 of thought
00:46:49.760 that Solomon
00:46:50.320 entrapped
00:46:51.620 and forced demons
00:46:54.360 to do his bidding
00:46:55.220 and build the temple
00:46:55.980 and...
00:46:57.160 With a ring.
00:46:58.280 Mm-hmm.
00:46:58.840 With a ring.
00:46:59.520 Yes.
00:46:59.840 So this is something
00:47:01.060 that is
00:47:01.960 integral to Mormonism?
00:47:05.440 Yes.
00:47:06.160 Well,
00:47:06.580 they don't know it.
00:47:08.000 They don't know it.
00:47:08.800 I will tell you this.
00:47:09.880 I think the top 3%
00:47:11.600 of the Mormon church
00:47:12.760 knows very well.
00:47:14.700 That guy,
00:47:15.840 the prophet I showed you,
00:47:16.640 he's 100.
00:47:17.720 Do you really think
00:47:18.520 they're not practicing
00:47:19.340 some really witchy things?
00:47:20.900 Well,
00:47:21.140 by the end of this,
00:47:21.940 I'll show you they are.
00:47:23.320 But I'm telling you guys,
00:47:25.220 like,
00:47:25.540 this is known
00:47:26.400 by the top of the top.
00:47:27.580 But like,
00:47:27.920 my mother-in-law,
00:47:28.760 who's like the nicest lady,
00:47:29.940 no.
00:47:30.940 She certainly does not know.
00:47:32.720 I did not know.
00:47:33.740 Yeah,
00:47:33.880 it seems like Mormons
00:47:34.540 are really nice.
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00:48:56.920 It's like
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00:48:59.180 and that's the part
00:49:00.240 and why I'm pissed off
00:49:01.480 and speak out
00:49:02.140 because they took
00:49:03.440 all of this weird
00:49:04.500 black magic stuff
00:49:05.760 and told us
00:49:06.840 all the community
00:49:08.180 that this is how
00:49:09.720 you go to heaven
00:49:10.440 and you can't go to heaven
00:49:11.720 without this.
00:49:13.040 And so
00:49:13.600 when you feel like that
00:49:15.700 and your whole family
00:49:16.680 even though
00:49:17.760 when I was in the temple
00:49:18.700 which we'll talk about
00:49:19.700 because
00:49:20.100 I have slides on it
00:49:21.840 I felt so
00:49:23.700 scared
00:49:24.360 and weird.
00:49:25.200 like I've always
00:49:26.020 had a really good
00:49:26.980 I think
00:49:27.740 judge of character
00:49:29.000 or whatever
00:49:29.760 like whichever direction
00:49:31.340 you're supposed to point
00:49:32.360 right
00:49:32.720 and I just felt
00:49:34.120 like I needed to run
00:49:35.140 for my life in there.
00:49:36.620 Were they doing
00:49:37.380 anything horrendous to me?
00:49:38.600 No.
00:49:38.880 Was it weird?
00:49:39.560 Yep.
00:49:40.180 But like
00:49:40.860 I couldn't leave.
00:49:42.120 My whole family was there
00:49:43.400 and they do this
00:49:44.840 on and on.
00:49:46.180 You know
00:49:46.420 You know
00:49:46.740 just to
00:49:47.960 piggyback off
00:49:49.280 this talisman
00:49:49.860 of Jupiter
00:49:50.860 which is interesting
00:49:52.040 because there seems
00:49:52.840 to be
00:49:53.340 a direct through line
00:49:54.580 between like
00:49:55.180 Baal, Jupiter,
00:49:57.240 Zeus, Hadad
00:49:58.360 these are all
00:49:59.000 the same characters
00:50:00.340 potentially
00:50:00.860 this is the Baal cycle
00:50:01.920 that we're
00:50:02.780 starting to
00:50:03.420 tap into
00:50:04.420 and there is a
00:50:05.300 talisman of Saturn
00:50:06.860 I believe
00:50:07.620 which is fascinating
00:50:08.620 because on one side
00:50:09.660 of the talisman
00:50:10.480 there is a
00:50:11.120 pentagram
00:50:11.900 with these various symbols
00:50:13.440 and in the center
00:50:14.140 is a
00:50:15.140 a scythe
00:50:16.540 which is
00:50:17.320 directly related
00:50:18.580 to Saturn,
00:50:19.800 Kronos,
00:50:20.520 Remfan
00:50:20.920 there's all these
00:50:22.600 entities
00:50:23.180 it's like a big
00:50:24.420 thing to unpack
00:50:25.080 but on the other side
00:50:26.100 you have what
00:50:26.900 people refer to
00:50:29.300 commonly as
00:50:29.900 the Star of David
00:50:30.700 but seems to be
00:50:32.640 the Seal of Solomon
00:50:33.760 with a
00:50:35.100 a bullhead
00:50:35.820 in the center
00:50:36.440 which goes to
00:50:37.760 Moloch
00:50:38.320 and
00:50:38.600 and there seems
00:50:39.500 to be some precedent
00:50:40.260 for King Solomon
00:50:41.880 building a temple
00:50:43.600 to Moloch
00:50:44.180 in a high place
00:50:44.960 at the behest
00:50:45.760 of one of his wives
00:50:46.680 in order to
00:50:47.960 I guess
00:50:48.960 you know
00:50:50.420 satiate her
00:50:51.380 for whatever reason
00:50:52.560 right
00:50:52.780 yes
00:50:53.540 yep
00:50:54.040 this is like
00:50:55.120 this is
00:50:55.780 this is lore
00:50:57.140 that we've been
00:50:57.860 circling the wagon on
00:50:59.180 and and I'm happy
00:51:00.200 to be here
00:51:00.760 so okay
00:51:01.500 please continue
00:51:02.260 awesome
00:51:02.720 you're good
00:51:03.980 no I don't care
00:51:04.780 um when
00:51:05.900 and so also
00:51:06.700 this is a magical
00:51:07.840 ceremonial magical dagger
00:51:09.480 there are certain
00:51:10.120 things you need
00:51:10.940 for magic
00:51:11.680 um and
00:51:12.560 and one of them
00:51:13.600 is a dagger
00:51:14.160 and this has
00:51:15.680 the Seal of
00:51:16.480 Intelligence of Mars
00:51:17.600 now when
00:51:18.080 now this is skipped over
00:51:19.520 they'll just say it
00:51:20.220 like that
00:51:20.580 when the Seal
00:51:21.140 and Intelligence of Mars
00:51:22.100 okay it doesn't
00:51:22.900 sound scary right
00:51:23.740 wrong
00:51:24.500 intelligences
00:51:25.440 are demons
00:51:26.660 they're not
00:51:28.060 even angels
00:51:29.280 or like anything
00:51:30.300 they're demons
00:51:31.120 and we know this
00:51:32.100 um also Capricorn
00:51:34.100 is reported
00:51:34.880 to keep men in safety
00:51:35.860 and places security
00:51:37.020 because of its
00:51:37.840 exaltation to Mars
00:51:39.280 so all of this
00:51:40.340 comes from where
00:51:41.120 the Magus
00:51:42.420 and so
00:51:43.360 this is a picture
00:51:44.380 of the real dagger
00:51:45.260 this is his real dagger
00:51:46.600 and this is
00:51:47.880 where his symbols
00:51:48.860 are on the dagger
00:51:50.060 again with the Seal
00:51:51.820 of Mars
00:51:52.300 they didn't even
00:51:53.300 put the Intel
00:51:54.160 oh yeah they did
00:51:54.840 Intelligence of Mars
00:51:55.900 Adonai Scorpio
00:51:57.060 there's reasons
00:51:58.120 for every one
00:51:59.280 of these symbols
00:51:59.960 and if you look
00:52:00.660 into Solomonic magic
00:52:01.680 they are very direct
00:52:03.260 and specific
00:52:04.140 Joseph Smith
00:52:05.540 was known
00:52:06.480 to have
00:52:07.880 killed a black
00:52:09.220 sheep
00:52:09.940 from this treasure
00:52:11.620 digging
00:52:11.960 slit its throat
00:52:12.800 and bleed it
00:52:14.100 the dad did
00:52:14.880 all over the circle
00:52:16.040 that he created
00:52:16.680 he's known to
00:52:17.480 have killed dogs
00:52:18.520 he's
00:52:19.300 this
00:52:20.040 this is not
00:52:21.460 Christian
00:52:23.040 or white
00:52:23.720 magic
00:52:24.260 we're talking
00:52:25.220 about blood magic
00:52:25.960 here
00:52:26.240 and so
00:52:27.220 yeah no
00:52:28.360 no
00:52:29.140 this is also
00:52:30.960 another up close
00:52:31.980 and this is the tables
00:52:33.880 and so
00:52:34.880 all of these tables
00:52:36.020 you can dissect
00:52:36.760 these piece by piece
00:52:37.800 by piece
00:52:38.300 if you guys want
00:52:39.080 and a lot of these
00:52:41.260 are just available
00:52:42.260 like I said
00:52:42.920 Dr. Justin Sledge
00:52:43.980 has a whole series
00:52:45.340 on Solomonic magic
00:52:46.300 that I learned
00:52:46.960 a lot from
00:52:47.840 so
00:52:48.360 now
00:52:50.260 this is where
00:52:51.320 I really learned
00:52:52.180 some things
00:52:53.560 took a picture
00:52:54.480 at Bohemian Grove
00:52:55.460 very nice
00:52:56.120 yeah
00:52:56.660 yeah
00:52:57.320 actually
00:52:58.060 this gets a little
00:52:59.280 weirder
00:52:59.780 so there are
00:53:00.520 masons
00:53:01.000 and then there
00:53:01.760 are something
00:53:02.180 different
00:53:02.660 called mystical
00:53:03.640 or magical
00:53:04.580 masons
00:53:05.380 and they
00:53:05.900 practice magic
00:53:07.040 they don't just
00:53:08.180 talk about magic
00:53:09.000 they just don't
00:53:09.860 deal with like
00:53:10.580 the craft of magic
00:53:11.720 or read books
00:53:12.840 they practice
00:53:13.940 magic
00:53:14.520 and this is called
00:53:16.380 the Ellis Coen's
00:53:17.640 and this
00:53:19.180 Martinist
00:53:20.100 or Ellis Coen's
00:53:21.180 group to this day
00:53:22.140 exists and still
00:53:23.320 practice magic
00:53:24.260 and they are
00:53:25.400 practitioners
00:53:25.980 and I do believe
00:53:27.540 from my studies
00:53:28.500 everybody thinks
00:53:29.340 Joseph Smith was
00:53:30.360 Scottish Rite Mason
00:53:31.420 no I don't think
00:53:32.500 he was
00:53:32.920 I don't think
00:53:33.600 the timeline
00:53:34.080 lines up
00:53:34.860 I know of a guy
00:53:36.640 that's critical
00:53:37.740 that we're just
00:53:38.380 going to glaze over
00:53:39.140 at this moment
00:53:39.780 in his life
00:53:41.020 called funny enough
00:53:42.120 brace yourselves
00:53:42.880 Lumen
00:53:43.580 Walters
00:53:44.480 like the shining
00:53:46.020 light
00:53:46.880 Lumen
00:53:47.440 and he pops
00:53:49.660 into his life
00:53:50.520 and he had just
00:53:51.320 came back
00:53:51.920 from France
00:53:53.360 where the
00:53:54.360 Martinist order
00:53:55.120 is originated
00:53:56.080 and so I do
00:53:57.320 believe
00:53:57.980 I've talked to
00:53:58.940 Paranoid American
00:53:59.540 about Scottish Rite
00:54:00.560 and history
00:54:01.240 and timelines
00:54:01.980 and Scottish Rite
00:54:03.240 just doesn't
00:54:04.000 fit well enough
00:54:04.720 it had barely
00:54:05.420 been organized
00:54:06.220 and so I just
00:54:07.760 don't think
00:54:08.200 that's exactly
00:54:08.920 what he was into
00:54:09.680 do I think
00:54:10.200 he was a part
00:54:10.740 of that
00:54:11.020 sure I do
00:54:11.660 but do I
00:54:12.780 think that's
00:54:13.160 all he's up
00:54:13.700 to
00:54:13.980 no
00:54:15.260 I don't
00:54:16.040 think so
00:54:16.460 with his
00:54:16.780 grandpa being
00:54:17.360 named
00:54:17.960 Azael
00:54:18.500 get out
00:54:19.080 of here
00:54:19.280 yeah
00:54:20.200 we went
00:54:21.820 over that
00:54:22.100 before you
00:54:22.600 you popped
00:54:23.040 out for a
00:54:23.560 second
00:54:23.820 his grandfather's
00:54:24.800 name is
00:54:25.160 Azael
00:54:25.920 which is
00:54:26.780 A-S-A-E-L
00:54:28.120 yes
00:54:29.800 and this
00:54:31.560 is the
00:54:31.920 Martinist order
00:54:32.720 and anybody
00:54:33.360 that wants
00:54:33.920 to study
00:54:34.320 about this
00:54:34.880 this is
00:54:35.280 really
00:54:35.760 interesting
00:54:36.180 I have
00:54:36.640 a show
00:54:37.020 out about
00:54:37.440 it called
00:54:37.880 Mystic
00:54:38.440 Masonry
00:54:39.080 or Magical
00:54:39.780 Masonry
00:54:40.220 I can't
00:54:40.520 remember what
00:54:40.920 we named
00:54:41.360 it but
00:54:42.020 Pasquale
00:54:42.660 is the
00:54:43.460 main guy
00:54:44.000 there's
00:54:44.280 three that
00:54:44.920 are
00:54:45.160 Willermose
00:54:46.040 Pasquale
00:54:46.840 and St.
00:54:47.600 Martin
00:54:47.880 and St.
00:54:49.580 Martin
00:54:49.760 actually which
00:54:50.640 is funny
00:54:51.040 because they
00:54:51.400 named it
00:54:51.700 after him
00:54:52.300 but St.
00:54:53.260 Martin
00:54:53.400 actually gave
00:54:54.020 up and
00:54:54.320 said don't
00:54:54.720 talk to
00:54:55.040 angels
00:54:55.320 they're bad
00:54:55.820 kind of like
00:54:57.640 John D
00:54:58.080 like
00:54:58.800 he was like
00:55:00.040 in hindsight
00:55:00.580 probably
00:55:01.100 not a
00:55:01.460 great
00:55:01.580 yeah
00:55:01.780 don't
00:55:02.100 do
00:55:02.260 it
00:55:02.460 yeah
00:55:02.640 he was
00:55:03.020 like
00:55:03.260 just kidding
00:55:04.180 we're not
00:55:04.700 going to do
00:55:05.000 this anymore
00:55:05.500 I think we
00:55:06.320 should all do
00:55:06.740 the work
00:55:07.060 internally
00:55:07.720 not externally
00:55:08.660 and it
00:55:09.080 became the
00:55:09.500 order of
00:55:09.900 the heart
00:55:10.300 and so
00:55:11.220 but these
00:55:11.860 other guys
00:55:12.260 were like
00:55:12.580 nah bro
00:55:13.100 the angels
00:55:13.580 are cool
00:55:14.100 so
00:55:14.600 let's just
00:55:15.460 remember
00:55:15.800 because I
00:55:16.780 see that
00:55:17.640 all the
00:55:17.880 time
00:55:18.240 where people
00:55:19.000 who are
00:55:19.680 willing to
00:55:20.380 engage in
00:55:21.200 some form
00:55:21.700 of paganism
00:55:22.420 just because
00:55:23.540 they had
00:55:24.100 an interaction
00:55:24.780 with some
00:55:25.420 spirit
00:55:26.060 whether it's
00:55:26.680 a fallen
00:55:27.100 angel
00:55:27.380 or something
00:55:27.820 lesser
00:55:28.160 and I
00:55:29.940 think that
00:55:30.340 people just
00:55:30.720 get lost
00:55:31.520 in the
00:55:31.820 profound
00:55:32.320 experience
00:55:32.980 of it
00:55:33.400 it's so
00:55:34.280 amazing
00:55:34.940 that this
00:55:35.400 must be
00:55:36.000 correct
00:55:36.940 this must
00:55:37.420 be the
00:55:37.700 right
00:55:37.900 this must
00:55:39.020 be the
00:55:39.320 thing
00:55:39.660 don't fall
00:55:40.460 victim to
00:55:41.060 your own
00:55:41.360 amazement
00:55:41.820 you can
00:55:42.540 engage
00:55:43.880 with entities
00:55:44.560 and it
00:55:44.980 is
00:55:45.320 you know
00:55:45.960 it's all
00:55:46.380 over the
00:55:46.660 bible
00:55:46.920 what does
00:55:47.960 it say
00:55:48.380 go away
00:55:48.920 seraphim
00:55:49.480 do not
00:55:49.940 talk to
00:55:50.380 me
00:55:50.620 you know
00:55:51.120 like
00:55:51.800 or you
00:55:53.080 might be
00:55:53.440 entertaining
00:55:53.880 an angel
00:55:54.380 or blah blah
00:55:55.080 blah but
00:55:55.480 we don't
00:55:55.900 know what
00:55:56.440 type of
00:55:56.980 angel
00:55:57.280 there's
00:55:57.600 fallen
00:55:57.940 angels
00:55:58.360 there's
00:55:58.780 good
00:55:58.940 angels
00:55:59.260 there's
00:55:59.580 archangels
00:56:00.280 there's
00:56:01.080 demons
00:56:01.520 there's
00:56:02.020 lower level
00:56:02.560 demons
00:56:02.900 there's
00:56:03.200 higher level
00:56:03.780 demons
00:56:03.980 like this
00:56:04.460 gets crazy
00:56:05.240 and so
00:56:06.220 when you're
00:56:06.840 when you're
00:56:07.360 pulling apart
00:56:08.100 some of
00:56:08.580 this stuff
00:56:09.160 and especially
00:56:09.760 with Pasquale
00:56:10.580 and his work
00:56:11.320 actually goes
00:56:12.020 down into
00:56:12.600 the Egyptian
00:56:13.140 orders
00:56:13.660 and that's
00:56:14.400 a whole
00:56:15.320 thing
00:56:15.660 so I
00:56:16.620 now know
00:56:17.040 more about
00:56:17.480 masonry
00:56:17.920 than I
00:56:18.320 would ever
00:56:18.720 love to
00:56:19.180 know
00:56:19.340 but also
00:56:19.920 I will
00:56:20.660 never know
00:56:21.180 very much
00:56:21.760 like it
00:56:22.200 is it
00:56:22.660 is insanely
00:56:23.640 intricate
00:56:24.260 but I do
00:56:25.740 believe this
00:56:26.600 particular one
00:56:27.400 now I have
00:56:27.940 no proof
00:56:28.480 of this
00:56:28.980 but I do
00:56:30.060 believe it
00:56:30.740 fits the
00:56:31.300 best with
00:56:32.040 what we're
00:56:32.360 seeing here
00:56:32.940 with Joseph
00:56:33.520 Smith
00:56:33.860 I can't
00:56:34.840 I can't
00:56:35.220 prove it
00:56:35.540 though
00:56:35.740 so this
00:56:36.560 is just
00:56:37.020 like I
00:56:37.380 said my
00:56:37.780 deep dive
00:56:38.360 where I
00:56:38.800 found the
00:56:39.160 solomonic
00:56:39.600 magic
00:56:39.980 that is
00:56:40.500 what they
00:56:40.820 practice
00:56:41.300 in these
00:56:42.320 orders
00:56:42.700 and so
00:56:43.440 and it
00:56:44.120 goes clear
00:56:44.660 into
00:56:45.000 you know
00:56:45.620 the
00:56:45.800 Egyptian
00:56:46.140 orders
00:56:46.560 I did
00:56:47.460 think it
00:56:48.220 was funny
00:56:48.680 that as
00:56:49.300 I was
00:56:49.560 looking for
00:56:50.060 a free
00:56:50.360 PDF
00:56:50.800 the greater
00:56:51.760 and lesser
00:56:52.120 keys of
00:56:52.580 Solomon
00:56:52.880 there's one
00:56:54.320 well it's
00:56:55.540 uploaded by
00:56:56.160 Brigham Young
00:56:56.680 University
00:56:57.220 so that was
00:56:57.880 nice
00:56:58.280 BYU
00:56:59.060 go BYU
00:56:59.920 a little
00:57:01.500 redacted
00:57:02.140 too
00:57:02.440 yeah
00:57:03.180 the Mormon
00:57:03.820 the Mormon
00:57:04.500 school
00:57:04.820 yeah
00:57:05.360 super funny
00:57:06.800 with trying
00:57:07.940 to hunt
00:57:08.360 down these
00:57:08.840 things
00:57:09.100 like we
00:57:09.880 had a
00:57:10.160 guest on
00:57:10.700 and
00:57:10.940 we asked
00:57:13.760 if he
00:57:14.940 thought
00:57:15.540 there was
00:57:16.180 any
00:57:16.580 real truth
00:57:19.220 in the
00:57:19.460 idea that
00:57:19.960 the star
00:57:20.400 of David
00:57:20.780 is actually
00:57:21.360 the seal
00:57:22.480 of Solomon
00:57:23.020 or whether
00:57:23.780 or not
00:57:24.200 the star
00:57:26.260 of Rem
00:57:26.580 fan that
00:57:26.960 the Bible
00:57:27.380 refers to
00:57:28.260 is the
00:57:29.560 seal of
00:57:29.920 Solomon
00:57:30.240 or the
00:57:30.620 star of
00:57:30.980 David
00:57:31.280 he kind
00:57:33.200 of spiraled
00:57:33.680 yeah he
00:57:34.000 spiraled a
00:57:34.500 little bit
00:57:34.780 he suddenly
00:57:35.100 became very
00:57:35.620 emotional
00:57:36.060 wow
00:57:37.520 he's like
00:57:38.380 Israel's our
00:57:38.900 greatest ally
00:57:39.580 you faggot
00:57:40.520 calm down
00:57:41.780 dude
00:57:42.060 I wish I
00:57:43.780 was there
00:57:44.440 it was
00:57:45.140 you know
00:57:45.520 the point
00:57:46.740 of the show
00:57:47.120 is never
00:57:47.500 to debate
00:57:48.680 it's to
00:57:49.460 allow the
00:57:50.080 guest to
00:57:51.060 lay out
00:57:52.220 this
00:57:52.640 compelling
00:57:53.480 bit of
00:57:53.960 information
00:57:54.360 for us
00:57:54.760 why do
00:57:55.340 these two
00:57:55.640 stars look
00:57:56.140 the same
00:57:56.520 though bro
00:57:57.000 and he
00:57:57.700 got like
00:57:58.000 real red
00:57:58.620 but when
00:57:59.780 you do
00:58:00.140 try to
00:58:00.500 look up
00:58:00.800 these
00:58:00.980 things
00:58:01.200 they are
00:58:01.540 very
00:58:01.800 obfuscated
00:58:02.500 it's
00:58:02.980 a contentious
00:58:05.120 thing
00:58:05.420 mystery
00:58:06.020 for a
00:58:06.460 reason
00:58:06.740 right
00:58:07.260 it's a
00:58:07.680 mystery
00:58:08.080 for a
00:58:08.780 reason
00:58:09.080 and so
00:58:09.920 whenever
00:58:10.320 I'm doing
00:58:10.920 research
00:58:11.420 I never
00:58:11.860 get emotionally
00:58:12.560 connected
00:58:13.020 enough
00:58:13.340 like that
00:58:13.700 guy that
00:58:14.080 keeps like
00:58:14.560 this is
00:58:15.040 my work
00:58:15.600 and I'm
00:58:15.860 like you're
00:58:16.460 weird
00:58:16.860 stop it
00:58:17.580 this is
00:58:17.920 history
00:58:18.320 but like
00:58:19.160 I'm just
00:58:20.080 telling you
00:58:20.500 guys like
00:58:20.920 all of
00:58:21.400 this stuff
00:58:22.120 you can
00:58:22.780 you can
00:58:23.360 find
00:58:23.840 but like
00:58:24.480 you said
00:58:24.840 maybe it's
00:58:25.380 gonna have
00:58:25.700 a dual
00:58:26.040 meaning
00:58:26.420 because at
00:58:27.260 one point
00:58:27.820 they're trying
00:58:28.580 to hide
00:58:28.920 stuff and
00:58:29.400 it's not
00:58:29.860 called the
00:58:30.240 occult for
00:58:30.740 nothing
00:58:31.000 people
00:58:31.440 like let's
00:58:32.200 get real
00:58:32.640 so I
00:58:34.600 mean these
00:58:35.240 tables
00:58:35.680 look at
00:58:36.020 how familiar
00:58:36.540 huh
00:58:36.940 like this
00:58:38.140 and this
00:58:38.800 like we're
00:58:39.620 gonna get
00:58:40.000 into it
00:58:40.440 but this
00:58:40.860 is just a
00:58:41.300 cool picture
00:58:41.740 I took
00:58:42.200 I gotta tell
00:58:43.380 people too
00:58:43.820 for the audience
00:58:44.360 that's listening
00:58:44.940 you're going
00:58:45.560 to want to
00:58:46.400 watch this
00:58:47.120 episode
00:58:47.420 you're gonna
00:58:48.020 want to be
00:58:48.580 on YouTube
00:58:49.200 for this
00:58:49.940 if you're
00:58:50.260 an audio
00:58:50.680 enjoyer
00:58:51.680 you know
00:58:52.000 by all means
00:58:53.020 please enjoy
00:58:53.760 but there is
00:58:54.420 a visual
00:58:55.080 component
00:58:55.600 to this
00:58:56.120 that is
00:58:57.000 actually very
00:58:57.780 disturbing
00:58:58.180 to me
00:58:58.560 because
00:58:58.920 she's just
00:59:01.280 flashing symbols
00:59:02.520 at us
00:59:02.920 and I'm
00:59:03.200 like
00:59:03.420 watch this
00:59:04.680 my nose
00:59:05.700 started
00:59:06.060 bleeding
00:59:06.460 oh no
00:59:08.180 so this
00:59:10.580 gets even
00:59:11.000 more strange
00:59:11.880 can I just
00:59:12.420 say my son
00:59:13.200 watches a show
00:59:13.900 called adventure
00:59:14.520 time
00:59:14.840 it's a lot
00:59:15.440 of fun
00:59:15.780 a lot of
00:59:16.580 the shit
00:59:16.900 in there
00:59:17.220 though
00:59:17.460 all of these
00:59:18.260 symbols are
00:59:18.780 in it
00:59:19.020 I'm watching
00:59:19.520 it
00:59:19.640 I'm like
00:59:19.860 why do
00:59:20.220 they have
00:59:20.520 to be
00:59:20.920 accurate
00:59:21.480 in their
00:59:22.040 esoteric
00:59:22.800 depictions
00:59:23.460 of you know
00:59:24.500 occult
00:59:24.780 practices
00:59:25.280 they're mk
00:59:26.560 altering
00:59:27.060 their brain
00:59:27.540 they're
00:59:27.760 priming it
00:59:28.200 for later
00:59:28.660 to be mormons
00:59:29.500 so yeah
00:59:34.160 this this
00:59:35.500 actually was
00:59:36.580 inside that
00:59:37.320 little power
00:59:37.800 pouch thing
00:59:38.580 that I told
00:59:39.040 you guys to
00:59:39.460 remember
00:59:39.740 that leather
00:59:40.260 thing
00:59:40.500 okay these
00:59:41.820 are what
00:59:42.140 was inside
00:59:42.680 of it
00:59:42.940 the bottom
00:59:43.500 is a
00:59:43.860 deciphering
00:59:44.800 tools so
00:59:45.920 that you
00:59:46.240 guys can
00:59:46.660 look at
00:59:47.060 it later
00:59:47.380 because I'm
00:59:47.680 not going
00:59:47.960 to go
00:59:48.120 through each
00:59:48.440 symbol
00:59:48.680 but I
00:59:49.060 am going
00:59:49.320 to show
00:59:49.620 you guys
00:59:49.920 a couple
00:59:50.180 things
00:59:50.520 these
00:59:51.340 wheels
00:59:51.800 you just
00:59:52.760 saw
00:59:53.160 on the
00:59:53.680 previous
00:59:54.020 slide
00:59:54.420 and I'm
00:59:54.760 going to
00:59:54.920 come back
00:59:55.300 and forth
00:59:55.620 I want
00:59:55.880 to show
00:59:56.100 you this
00:59:56.380 one
00:59:56.560 look
00:59:56.980 okay this
00:59:58.640 came from
00:59:59.020 a witchcraft
00:59:59.580 book okay
01:00:00.720 this come
01:00:01.360 from Sibley's
01:00:02.020 book of
01:00:02.300 witchcraft
01:00:02.800 and so
01:00:03.940 yes it is
01:00:05.360 these two
01:00:05.880 and they all
01:00:06.720 have specific
01:00:07.460 meanings but I
01:00:08.120 also want to
01:00:08.640 tell you guys
01:00:09.100 something when
01:00:09.820 things are
01:00:10.540 sealed see how
01:00:11.740 this has a
01:00:12.280 circle around
01:00:12.860 it and they
01:00:13.160 call it a
01:00:13.580 seal that
01:00:14.780 means you
01:00:15.540 are controlling
01:00:17.020 a spirit that
01:00:17.960 means you are
01:00:18.700 saying you will
01:00:19.380 do this because
01:00:20.220 I said so
01:00:21.000 you're like you're
01:00:21.440 the parent right
01:00:22.240 but when you
01:00:23.240 have these open
01:00:24.320 ones like
01:00:24.920 this like
01:00:25.780 with these
01:00:26.200 angels this
01:00:26.860 is the
01:00:27.300 Raphael
01:00:27.900 star when
01:00:28.980 you have it
01:00:29.500 open that
01:00:30.900 means he has
01:00:31.600 a working
01:00:32.160 relationship with
01:00:33.620 this and it's
01:00:34.460 open like you
01:00:35.380 don't have to
01:00:36.080 do what I
01:00:36.460 say but I
01:00:36.880 would like you
01:00:37.360 to do what I
01:00:37.800 say and maybe
01:00:38.380 if you give me
01:00:39.020 something I'll
01:00:39.560 give you
01:00:39.900 something and
01:00:40.900 you have to
01:00:41.300 remember people
01:00:41.760 are like gonna
01:00:42.240 say well
01:00:43.100 Raphael's a
01:00:43.820 good angel well
01:00:44.440 what if it
01:00:44.940 wasn't the
01:00:45.360 right one how
01:00:46.220 many Jorge's do
01:00:47.140 you know like
01:00:48.380 please tell me
01:00:49.360 you know how
01:00:50.140 many how many
01:00:51.420 Brian's do you
01:00:52.540 know like come
01:00:53.160 on you guys
01:00:54.160 like there's
01:00:54.800 there's a lot
01:00:55.880 of people that's
01:00:56.460 why when I
01:00:56.900 pray honestly I
01:00:57.820 always say Jesus
01:00:58.440 of Nazareth now
01:00:59.820 because I'm like
01:01:00.960 gonna be specific
01:01:01.800 I don't know
01:01:03.760 anymore
01:01:04.140 there's really
01:01:04.520 something to that
01:01:05.260 because I often
01:01:06.440 warn against the
01:01:07.840 new ages sort of
01:01:08.960 and not even just
01:01:09.460 the new age but
01:01:10.040 like modern
01:01:11.340 society's depiction
01:01:12.260 of Jesus Christ for
01:01:13.120 example there's a
01:01:13.740 song I forget
01:01:14.680 what the name of
01:01:15.160 it is it might be
01:01:16.120 called Jesus drives
01:01:17.100 an Astrovan but
01:01:18.320 it's a song about
01:01:19.300 like kind of
01:01:20.460 hippie Jesus who
01:01:21.520 like smokes weed and
01:01:22.600 drives an Astrovan
01:01:23.540 like he's super
01:01:24.120 cool man and I'm
01:01:24.920 like the reason
01:01:25.900 that that's
01:01:26.280 detrimental is
01:01:26.980 because these
01:01:29.020 things want your
01:01:30.040 veneration and if
01:01:31.520 you're not incredibly
01:01:33.020 specific about who
01:01:35.000 you're praying to
01:01:35.900 then something else
01:01:37.140 might be able to
01:01:37.920 slip in in its
01:01:38.800 place because like
01:01:39.880 that's not accurate
01:01:41.020 you're not sending
01:01:41.660 that message to the
01:01:42.400 right it's like
01:01:42.860 getting an address
01:01:43.600 wrong by one
01:01:44.380 number you know
01:01:45.480 well they also said
01:01:46.380 even the sounds
01:01:47.540 even the trumpet
01:01:48.360 sounds for angels
01:01:49.500 they're very
01:01:50.900 specific and I
01:01:51.680 have to tell you
01:01:52.240 guys again I
01:01:52.920 talked to Dr.
01:01:53.600 Justin Sledge he
01:01:55.020 is his wife is a
01:01:56.320 rabbi he is a he
01:01:57.960 wears the yarmulke
01:01:58.700 and everything he's
01:01:59.320 very Jewish and
01:02:00.920 he's also the
01:02:01.780 esoteric doctorate
01:02:03.340 like from the
01:02:04.060 Netherlands he said
01:02:05.740 any of us Jewish
01:02:06.760 people know we
01:02:08.020 would rather talk
01:02:08.820 to a demon all day
01:02:09.840 long than an angel
01:02:10.720 because they are
01:02:11.220 terrifying he said
01:02:12.720 they follow through
01:02:13.600 with God's commands
01:02:14.560 like a military
01:02:15.560 precision so if you
01:02:16.900 don't have it
01:02:17.360 exactly correct they
01:02:18.400 ain't coming
01:02:18.820 there's no way
01:02:20.360 Jews like to they
01:02:21.260 have a proclivity of
01:02:22.140 trying to get away
01:02:22.900 with things or skirt
01:02:24.460 around some of the
01:02:25.200 laws so I could
01:02:26.000 imagine they'd be
01:02:26.580 afraid of someone
01:02:27.900 who's a hey that's
01:02:28.500 bullshit that put
01:02:29.300 take the fishing
01:02:30.000 wire down take it
01:02:31.020 down right now
01:02:31.500 he's like we don't
01:02:33.600 want to deal with it
01:02:34.320 and also we go back
01:02:35.360 to the story I do
01:02:36.400 want to mention
01:02:36.860 these things like
01:02:37.640 okay let's let's do
01:02:38.660 this little fun thing
01:02:39.600 that I like to do
01:02:40.380 okay John D was
01:02:42.280 huge for me when I
01:02:43.240 first started looking
01:02:44.100 into all this I
01:02:44.880 thought it was
01:02:45.340 Enochian magic I
01:02:46.420 knew it was magic I
01:02:47.460 wasn't sure what
01:02:48.360 because I I never
01:02:50.360 did anything like
01:02:51.000 this in my whole
01:02:51.560 life until 2020 I
01:02:52.940 was a normie I
01:02:53.940 wasn't even awake I'm
01:02:55.400 a nurse and I and
01:02:56.580 when that happened in
01:02:57.480 2020 I was like yeah
01:02:58.480 nah nope not gonna
01:03:00.360 happen today any day
01:03:01.680 not happening and so
01:03:02.780 it woke me up it only
01:03:03.820 takes like one thing
01:03:04.900 one really good thing
01:03:06.080 to make you go ding
01:03:07.460 and like you start
01:03:08.540 thinking everything's
01:03:09.400 fake so I wanted to
01:03:11.400 fix my life and and
01:03:13.000 I knew I did some
01:03:13.940 oaths and I started
01:03:15.120 studying well I found
01:03:16.580 some things I found
01:03:17.460 this stuff and some
01:03:18.320 weird stuff and I
01:03:18.920 started studying about
01:03:19.780 John D because some
01:03:20.760 of these symbols relate
01:03:21.820 to John D and I
01:03:22.620 didn't even know who
01:03:23.160 he was and I'm
01:03:24.460 talking about the
01:03:25.380 magician type John
01:03:26.560 D like that spoke to
01:03:27.640 angels right angels but
01:03:29.160 later what did he do
01:03:30.500 he's like in the middle
01:03:31.800 of it he's spent eight
01:03:33.360 years working with
01:03:34.200 Edward Kelly and
01:03:35.220 another guy I think
01:03:36.040 for seven and in the
01:03:37.640 midst of all this the
01:03:38.900 angels like a but you
01:03:40.560 got to give us your
01:03:41.200 wife though like switch
01:03:42.100 it up you know or you
01:03:43.660 don't get nothing and
01:03:44.880 so I don't think God
01:03:46.080 works like that um
01:03:47.800 give us your wife how
01:03:48.760 so yeah uh they
01:03:50.900 switched wives and
01:03:51.760 then he raised the
01:03:52.660 other guy's son his
01:03:53.440 whole life so um yeah
01:03:55.880 that got kinky and so
01:03:57.520 we have what an angel
01:03:59.520 appears to a guy he
01:04:01.080 tells him uh I'll tell
01:04:03.100 you what you want to
01:04:03.680 know write this book
01:04:05.080 and that book became
01:04:06.460 many religions it's
01:04:07.820 it's like a huge part
01:04:09.900 of like all the
01:04:11.100 Knights Templar
01:04:11.780 everything it's important
01:04:12.920 it's really important
01:04:14.040 okay to Christianity
01:04:16.120 in one form or another
01:04:17.780 later that this
01:04:19.240 esoteric form of
01:04:20.360 Christianity with John
01:04:21.600 D but then he switches
01:04:23.480 wives it ruins his life
01:04:24.880 it ruins the
01:04:25.420 relationships he dies
01:04:26.480 penniless and almost
01:04:27.500 like no kids left they
01:04:29.120 all got taken by the
01:04:30.100 plague his wife died
01:04:31.000 everything bad he had
01:04:32.480 to raise the one guy's
01:04:33.260 son um that guy died
01:04:35.220 his legs got cut off and
01:04:36.660 jumped out a window
01:04:37.420 like all bad we got
01:04:39.080 Muhammad okay he's
01:04:40.840 running around and
01:04:42.160 he's got people with
01:04:43.280 him he it's a non
01:04:44.320 written society a fit
01:04:45.700 of darkness comes over
01:04:46.980 him and so what does
01:04:48.400 he do he wakes up he
01:04:50.000 sees angels he tells
01:04:51.180 them oh okay they
01:04:52.860 told me to write this
01:04:53.780 stuff down so not
01:04:55.160 really right because
01:04:56.060 they would memorize it
01:04:56.960 and so they walked
01:04:57.860 around with him and
01:04:58.700 memorized it all and
01:05:00.060 then it becomes what a
01:05:01.480 religion same thing and
01:05:03.580 what does he have to do
01:05:04.780 polygamy always a
01:05:06.340 sexual price what about
01:05:08.040 Jack Parsons and L Ron
01:05:09.420 Hubbard out in the
01:05:10.080 desert doing desert
01:05:10.940 grossy things you
01:05:12.380 guys can look into
01:05:13.240 that um anyway there
01:05:15.640 was a sexual price and
01:05:16.940 what happens they say
01:05:18.340 write it down and he
01:05:19.320 does and it becomes a
01:05:20.280 religion Scientology we
01:05:22.120 can do a fun one how
01:05:23.200 about Aleister Crowley
01:05:24.200 because he went to
01:05:25.460 Egypt and he saw
01:05:26.900 something but he said
01:05:27.980 it wasn't an angel he
01:05:30.120 said Awos was an alien
01:05:31.840 well maybe that's what it
01:05:32.940 could appear to him as
01:05:34.300 because he didn't give a
01:05:35.140 crap right he was like
01:05:36.620 yeah bring it bring the
01:05:37.720 alien and so you know
01:05:39.880 that thing tells him to
01:05:41.020 write it all down and
01:05:41.940 he does and it becomes a
01:05:43.460 religion and what does
01:05:44.620 he pay with the price he
01:05:46.100 was sexually like into
01:05:47.320 everything I mean there
01:05:48.780 was no price he wouldn't
01:05:50.040 pay yeah read uh Sicilian's
01:05:52.320 farts yeah it's it's all
01:05:54.560 so bad he got kicked out of
01:05:56.220 Italy he got kicked out of
01:05:57.440 a whole country you know
01:05:58.980 so disgusting so you would
01:06:00.700 imagine that I'm like man
01:06:03.720 and so Joseph Smith same
01:06:05.520 thing he sees an angel he
01:06:06.840 writes the book and what
01:06:07.840 happens polygamy and
01:06:10.180 polyandry nobody wants to
01:06:12.060 talk about the polyandry
01:06:13.200 but it wasn't just
01:06:14.720 polygamy he was marrying
01:06:15.980 other people's wives that
01:06:17.000 were already married and I
01:06:17.880 think it got him killed to
01:06:18.920 be honest and guess what
01:06:20.160 comes up at that point I'm
01:06:21.680 going to mention this now
01:06:22.600 he marries William Morgan's
01:06:25.180 widow you heard me the
01:06:27.340 William Morgan it's
01:06:29.320 amazing the web that
01:06:30.720 connects these people it's
01:06:32.720 it's crazy and so none of
01:06:35.400 these people are disjointed
01:06:36.460 from one another no and
01:06:39.040 all of this stuff and this
01:06:40.560 to this day many of these
01:06:41.760 symbols are on or in the
01:06:43.620 Mormon church or on their
01:06:45.060 temples and this holiness to
01:06:46.560 the Lord is on every temple
01:06:47.960 and so they know what's up
01:06:50.420 that's why I say the top is
01:06:51.800 involved in this there's no
01:06:53.120 way they do some weird stuff
01:06:54.640 I'm certain of it I'm sure we
01:06:56.440 will never know but you know
01:06:58.420 look into it the more I
01:06:59.640 begin to appreciate the
01:07:00.780 simplicity of of dedicating
01:07:02.920 your life to Christ and yes
01:07:04.780 his ability to break the
01:07:06.960 bonds that you might have
01:07:08.260 otherwise stupidly made
01:07:09.820 because it just like it seems
01:07:11.760 like well you know certainly
01:07:14.540 with what you're showing us
01:07:15.840 there are so many potential
01:07:18.260 ways to slip up and become
01:07:20.360 more or less like in cahoots
01:07:22.600 with some dark spiritual entity
01:07:24.680 yes yes that will present you
01:07:27.460 with something that seems to
01:07:29.220 be true because there's some
01:07:30.340 element of truth within it but
01:07:31.880 then they ask you to invert it
01:07:33.140 in one way or another yeah to
01:07:34.460 miss or or they're horrible
01:07:36.920 right like they're like or
01:07:38.360 they're horrible they're they're
01:07:39.660 like oh okay I'm praying that I
01:07:42.640 can't stop drinking so I want to
01:07:44.260 be sober okay well we want you
01:07:46.180 to be sober the angels like you
01:07:47.700 want to be sober yeah are you
01:07:49.360 sure about that yeah so they put
01:07:51.040 you in prison for the rest of your
01:07:52.100 life you're sober though
01:07:53.060 crushing but I mean for for you to
01:07:56.000 be able to just appeal to Christ
01:07:59.160 and and ask for forgiveness ask
01:08:01.340 for oaths to be broken whatever
01:08:02.840 you know covenants may have been
01:08:06.220 made with creatures yes entities
01:08:08.560 or like it's almost like we're so
01:08:12.080 stupid that we needed that you know
01:08:14.920 what it feels like it's like you're
01:08:17.320 basically mankind is more or less
01:08:19.800 retarded and you're gonna need a way
01:08:21.920 well yeah that's very simple very
01:08:24.220 yes thank heavens thank heavens for
01:08:26.560 all of us because I mean I would
01:08:28.720 definitely be lost and like I said
01:08:31.240 all of these I put these on here not
01:08:33.360 to go through each one of those signs
01:08:35.140 and symbols but I want people to be
01:08:36.600 able to see them and this one was the
01:08:39.300 original one that I couldn't find
01:08:40.720 anywhere else but with John D but
01:08:42.420 actually also funny enough it's a
01:08:44.440 Masonic password so anyway we'll leave
01:08:48.060 that alone because it's because it's
01:08:49.480 going off that's an angel juban juban
01:08:53.140 ladies it's a very unusual one and I
01:08:58.520 reverse looked it up in the internet
01:09:00.280 and it came back with John D and then I
01:09:02.980 went down that road then I went down
01:09:05.040 you know the whole magical road of
01:09:07.460 masonry I've been down a lot of roads
01:09:09.020 I like the roads I'm very
01:09:10.380 consideratorial in general but and I
01:09:12.540 understand if the answer is no because
01:09:14.060 I understand that you've cultivated this
01:09:15.600 oh you're good can you send me this
01:09:17.600 when this is over oh yeah of course
01:09:19.920 okay excellent thank you so much yeah
01:09:22.320 no no you're fine so all of this is is
01:09:25.700 very um member he's supposed to be a
01:09:29.500 dumb farm boy I like to remind people
01:09:31.340 of this every now and again because
01:09:33.020 these are supposed to be stupid people
01:09:34.460 right I this doesn't scream stupid to
01:09:37.360 me I also want to bring up the fact
01:09:39.580 that the reason why I say these layman's
01:09:42.140 this is another layman could not have
01:09:44.960 been his brothers is because his
01:09:47.960 brother wasn't the treasure digger his
01:09:50.400 brother was the studious guy that was
01:09:52.200 at college even though they like to say
01:09:53.620 he was stupid everybody's stupid
01:09:55.120 everybody's working the farm just dirt
01:09:57.300 poor idiots can't read or write his
01:09:59.820 brother is at Dartmouth okay I just
01:10:04.360 don't really believe that she's calling
01:10:06.500 people from Harvard he's going to
01:10:08.220 Dartmouth it was like a piece of
01:10:11.320 college inside the college called the
01:10:13.040 Indian school Dartmouth but I'm sorry
01:10:16.060 like no this is baloney and again we're
01:10:18.980 back to you know witchcraft um sigils I
01:10:22.360 mean Solomonic sigils these are all
01:10:24.000 calling down some of these are very
01:10:25.460 specific and calling down for very
01:10:27.040 specific angels and demons they're just
01:10:29.540 like doodling these just these are just
01:10:31.440 his doodles
01:10:32.040 no this is Solomonic um this is
01:10:35.400 specifically from the Solomonic table
01:10:37.480 these are specific calling down for for
01:10:40.420 either certain angels like this one so
01:10:43.020 some of these will go back here let me oh
01:10:45.360 not that far wow it went crazy um
01:10:48.300 okay so I'm talking about the one that
01:10:52.160 had like all of all of those symbols and
01:10:54.400 it was a square image with all these
01:10:56.300 symbols just packed in it who drew that
01:10:58.160 the table yeah the table I'm certain that
01:11:01.280 he was either taught how to draw it or
01:11:03.340 somebody drew these for him he did work
01:11:05.620 with a Jewish um guy that taught him how
01:11:08.680 to read Hebrew and how to write Hebrew even
01:11:11.300 though he's an idiot he doesn't know how
01:11:12.760 to write English he's learning Hebrew so I'm
01:11:15.380 just like come on you know and so these are
01:11:18.700 specific things each little mark is very
01:11:21.540 specific and you guys could I think I
01:11:24.260 might have put the table of Solomon on my
01:11:26.420 other side and I'll open it after we're
01:11:28.000 done but it's all very very specific in
01:11:32.300 the greater and lesser keys of Solomon
01:11:33.980 do you want to hear something funny to
01:11:35.720 guess what they call okay so if you if
01:11:39.280 you're the man in Mormonism you have
01:11:41.740 something of the priesthood want to know
01:11:43.460 what it's called you have the keys of the
01:11:46.880 priesthood
01:11:47.380 funny funny they're so funny in my opinion
01:11:53.040 right that would be used by individuals in
01:11:55.580 the music industry so when you have somebody
01:11:57.340 like Eminem uh talking about selling his soul
01:12:00.220 to an entity called Rain Man which is I'm
01:12:02.000 sure one name of many that this entity goes
01:12:04.560 by this is the sort of thing that they're
01:12:06.640 leveraging this is yes ancient you know you
01:12:09.580 said for a time you you thought it was
01:12:11.100 Enochian
01:12:11.640 I did Solomonic it's Solomonic
01:12:14.580 that it's not it's a stone's throw though
01:12:17.080 it is but they are similar there is some
01:12:19.580 Enochian there is Enochian in it because
01:12:21.900 remember John Dee when he would scry well he
01:12:25.260 couldn't because he was very analytical but the
01:12:27.420 the scryer that he would employ right Edward Kelly he would stare into what a
01:12:32.040 black obsidian mirror what is black obsidian right well is it volcanic it's a
01:12:38.540 crystal what do we look at all day a liquid crystal display what color is it it's black yeah we have
01:12:46.380 scrying mirrors in front of us so when I was younger I did something that I would not recommend
01:12:54.300 that anyone do but it did not require any magic but it still yielded results that made me never
01:13:00.380 do it again and all that was was going in the bathroom and turning off all the lights having
01:13:07.580 oh yeah dim candle and not breaking eye contact with myself in the mirror and let me bloody Mary
01:13:13.100 it's basically bloody Mary you don't have to say anything and I wouldn't recommend doing this
01:13:17.820 but I'm pretty sure that everybody will have the same results you know that kind of optical illusion
01:13:22.540 where you stare at the point in the center and the details around the edges disappear that happens
01:13:28.140 to your face the details of your face disappear yeah and then well it's and it's that Zachary King says
01:13:35.180 that's how he actually became demonic you know is playing bloody Mary a version of myself that uh
01:13:43.740 made me turn the lights on and I never did it again so um this is something that you know it's like
01:13:51.740 right at the edge of your fingertips at all times and I think if yes if the media if our culture just
01:13:56.940 sprinkles in these symbols around us the next thing you know you're the unwilling participant
01:14:01.740 in various uh for sure you have no idea yeah you have no idea and it's so easy to hide I'm actually
01:14:08.140 gonna prove your case on that here in a minute and this this gets into um some other weird things that
01:14:14.060 happened so Mormon uh necromancy so I have to tell you guys all of this stuff was happening with
01:14:20.540 Joseph and he's trying to get the plates and he's telling everybody about it and so the angel says
01:14:25.340 at first you know what next year I'm gonna give them to you but you got to bring your brother and
01:14:30.540 same time same place let's do this thing well his brother died so he couldn't bring his brother
01:14:37.740 brother and um I also found it weird that he died of constipation like okay anyway there's a thing well
01:14:46.620 well it can but it makes you wonder if that was truthful like there are certain things that they
01:14:53.500 do to people that can you know um Heather Rourke died of constipation as well the little girl from
01:14:58.940 poltergeist um right you know it just makes it makes one wonder we'll just say that so I'm not saying
01:15:06.060 he was the oldest son yeah he was the oldest son too and so they they have this whole thing
01:15:13.180 where this was ran by Joseph Smith Sr the dad of Alvin and he basically says in this
01:15:20.220 we have to dig him up because you guys said we dug him up we didn't dig him up so we're going to prove
01:15:24.140 that we didn't dig him up because we're going to show you because we're going to dig him up what
01:15:28.780 what what are you talking about why would you do that right because maybe and I like to make this
01:15:35.900 joke Alvin had a hand in Mormonism because we're talking about skull and bones and the current
01:15:42.700 president and certain things I'm sorry like come on I I think I think they have all these people's
01:15:48.060 bones to be quite frank but um I also find it fascinating that poor Alvin dies and you know
01:15:56.380 they dig him up whatever they do there and they check on him I guess okay whatever um but also
01:16:04.380 Joseph got married at this time and Emma his wife has a baby and they get these plates and then guess
01:16:10.700 what happens to the baby it's born shortly after they get these plates it's extremely deformed
01:16:17.340 and it only lives moments and guess what they named it they named it Alvin interesting first son
01:16:25.180 first son first child also first son first child just saying it sounds like a sacrifice yep yeah
01:16:34.620 that's my thoughts too and he actually had more more kids die and people will say well that's because
01:16:42.380 back in the day people's kids died I'm like well how come his mom had a bunch of kids and none of them
01:16:46.700 died except Alvin later in life right so what happened there how come they all lived into adulthood
01:16:53.900 but not Joseph Smith's kids so a lot of them died so I put this little um piece of paper in here and
01:17:02.140 people that are Mormons will recognize it because this is a temple record um that you can print off
01:17:07.420 through the genealogy sites that we're going to get into but I thought it was funny that they made sure
01:17:12.620 that Hitler also had his stuff done not only did they baptize him endow him seal him to his parents
01:17:19.580 etc etc they did it for all the Jews that died for what they believed in as well as Anne Frank
01:17:26.540 so there's that it's kind of disgusting this is the baptismal font for baptisms for the dead
01:17:36.140 like I just described to you the Mormons baptized people um that have passed on through proxy which
01:17:43.260 is kind of scary knowing what we know about how entities and different things can be allowed into
01:17:49.020 you so basically what they say is okay Heidi today you are you know Elizabeth and you are Elizabeth and we
01:17:57.820 are going to baptize you Elizabeth in this name blah blah blah okay and then they do it and you're like 12 to
01:18:05.100 15 at this point you're supposed to be young ish you're you know been through all these little
01:18:10.540 talks with the bishop made sure you're clean and chased and you get in this oxen pool which people are
01:18:17.340 like it's the 12 tribes that are law I'm like wow it also reminds me of Moloch and we're putting kids
01:18:22.700 in there but that's what I was thinking but yeah mm-hmm yep it's yucky I don't yeah and I'm not real probably
01:18:32.540 just plated I'm assuming but the LDS church is one of the richest churches in the world and I would I
01:18:38.940 have a whole thing on money where the money goes but yeah the number one holding okay do you know
01:18:46.860 who the number one land holder for farming is in America right now uh Bill Gates mm-hmm do you know who
01:18:53.900 number two is China the Mormon church really do you know what number one holding the Mormon churches
01:19:02.860 stock is in their stocks Microsoft
01:19:09.820 there's a lot really their top 10 holdings holding is Microsoft yep and their next is like Amazon
01:19:18.300 alphabet um Elon Musk Tesla stuff like they're they're in on this they're in on it and they
01:19:27.420 have been for a long time and so there's a whole show with the Mormon mafia and CIA and like all the
01:19:34.620 connects with the CIA the Mormons are hugely a big part of three-letter agencies so it just got me going
01:19:42.860 when you said that it's like it my mind immediately jumped to what are the Mormons role in all of this
01:19:47.900 because yeah scary I look at what's happening right now and and having just got Trump into
01:19:53.340 presidency we're talking about MAGA MAGUS um there is something there for sure I talked about it a lot
01:20:00.220 today actually on on my other show timeline cleanse and I never considered two things Heidi number one
01:20:06.940 I never considered what the Mormon church's role in this would be but number two I had no idea how dense
01:20:14.540 and mystic uh yes the Mormons and their belief system yeah wild oh yeah this is extremely try and
01:20:24.460 be like from this lineage and you're like oh my gosh like every time I'd learn something new I'm just
01:20:30.140 like oh my gosh my brain's gonna explode but like it's okay now right just remember people like this
01:20:37.020 isn't your nice neighbor lady I promise you like they don't know they know not what they do it's the
01:20:42.380 same thing as like the Masons like the Masons is a fraternity of people uh uh resource not resource
01:20:48.380 pool skill sharing you know like I'm a plumber you're a carpenter let's also hang out and you
01:20:53.420 know kind of get involved in the community type of deal and uh at what I mean by like by black
01:20:58.780 young I mean it's just like it's another group of people that are conspiring at the highest level with
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01:22:05.100 i dare say the mormons are higher up or on level of the catholics at this time and i will show you
01:22:12.380 why towards the end of this presentation because some things have happened recently that have never
01:22:18.060 happened before with in in regards to rome can i ask before we move on to that and it's okay to tell
01:22:24.620 me that we're gonna get to it if we are gonna get to it um but what then does the mormon church believe
01:22:33.260 about jesus christ and who are their who is their god well if you ask them it's god the father and the
01:22:44.620 son and the holy ghost they're three separate entities um god the father knocked mary up like
01:22:51.100 the regular way like jesus was born like any other man like he banged her like that's what they say
01:22:57.420 sorry but that's what they say not my stuff anyways he was born like any other man um and was created
01:23:05.020 like any other man but they also believe in the adam god theory where you can become a god and so they
01:23:11.420 they they denounce this stuff now but i've got some slides on it but i will say i like i they try
01:23:18.060 and come off as christian and if you talk to a mormon they're going to be like yeah we're christian
01:23:22.940 what like they don't they don't research into any of this weird stuff like at all but also they call
01:23:29.660 their god elohim very interesting elohim isn't a name like that elohim like ed mabry said yesterday
01:23:39.980 is classification a classification and so that makes me really anxious and nervous to know that
01:23:47.580 that could be many things right that could they also believe in mother in heaven um and so it gets
01:23:55.820 it gets in the weeds it gets in the weeds a lot and i just think that the people don't care and they
01:24:01.020 just want to you know go along to get along and keep being good and you know be the best you can be type of
01:24:08.460 thing you do feel really damned as a mormon i will say that they keep you always feeling very oppressed
01:24:14.060 they never want you to feel that grace is ever given freely you have to earn your way to heaven
01:24:18.620 there's no getting through that you have to earn as much as you can earn and this is why many mormon
01:24:23.980 people are extremely successful is because if you bring 75 cents to the table god will give you a quarter
01:24:30.380 maybe if you're lucky but it's not free yeah which is the exact opposite of uh what reality is christianity
01:24:40.460 right which is that um the prophecy has already been fulfilled he's already died for our sins all we
01:24:45.580 need is to accept him yes and repent and we're good to go um it's weird huh isn't that weird i mean like
01:24:53.500 they want you to feel very oppressed and you know they're this state utah has one of the highest
01:24:59.180 depression rates they have one of the highest uh narcotic abuse rates they have some of the highest
01:25:05.020 divorce rates like all kinds of things because these people get really depressed i mean can you
01:25:09.260 imagine never feeling good enough for jesus right i can i lived in that also to your point the same
01:25:15.020 thing with the witnesses the jehovah witnesses and that the at the lowest levels or you know at the
01:25:19.180 at the i would say the mass vast majority of the congregation does not know the finer stranger
01:25:25.660 details of what goes on at the top so yeah it's not your neighbor that is uh engaging in uh you know
01:25:33.020 solomonistic magic right they're not practitioners they're not practitioners unfortunately they have a
01:25:39.660 what i would argue is probably some sort of a um unhealthy spiritual connection to these things
01:25:46.540 it's a spell it's a spell spell yeah um not that it couldn't be broken but they're not the the people
01:25:52.860 that are uh conspiring they're just no not not nice guy saying that it's it's biblical precedence for
01:25:59.260 uh baptisms of the dead i gotta look into that i don't know it sounds weird to me yeah i don't know
01:26:06.220 via proxy if we should be doing that but i i mean we can look into it but honestly like all of all of joseph
01:26:14.860 smith's um ceremonial things come from masonry and we know that so you know especially the temple
01:26:21.980 ceremony itself which we're going to see today a little bit of um it it's it's very masonic and so
01:26:28.380 regardless if you do um if a if a devil worshiper does a prayer out of the bible is it then okay
01:26:37.580 or is it the intent behind it and that is my question here is the intent behind it it seems to
01:26:45.980 me that all the way down to whatever's being practiced right now um whether that's in the the the
01:26:52.540 mormon church or if it's you know behind closed doors on an epstein island or something
01:26:58.700 all of this is just a game of telephone that's remained remarkably accurate ever since the time
01:27:07.260 of solomon but really is something that was passed down to mankind uh from the fallen in exchange for
01:27:15.260 what seems to be over and over again some sort of sexual uh exchange where you know the yes gary wayne
01:27:21.740 would say that um it was an exchange for the the the women of yeah of mankind and then you know you
01:27:29.820 go on to birth the nephilim and things like that but this has always been it this has always been it
01:27:33.500 there's always a sexual exchange for uh some sort of coveted knowledge and or a blood ritual or a blood
01:27:41.740 ritual yes and it's the exact same thing you know once again the book of ecclesiastes right nothing new
01:27:47.660 is under this no it's the same thing all the way to this yes and this is where this is a perfect place
01:27:55.180 to lead in on these coffin canes when you're talking about dead people stuff again like whether or not
01:28:02.620 okay they were trying not to be nefarious with the baptisms this is nefarious this is weird and gross
01:28:08.940 so these coffin canes were made because they dug up joseph and his brother who died together they
01:28:17.180 actually took braided locks of their hair stuck them in the knob of the tip of the canes and made
01:28:24.460 these canes out of their decomposing body coffins like the nasty yeah and so these these are in the
01:28:34.220 actual museum for mormonism like i didn't make this up this is real and so you know this is the top of
01:28:42.060 it this is the knob on the coffin cane bears the inscription presented by brigham young to sydney rigden
01:28:47.500 these are key players in mormonism brigham young is the second prophet of the church
01:28:52.220 and it is one of two coffin canes on display at the church history museum and they do talk about
01:28:56.860 these canes being very powerful in the last days now i have to tell you guys when you're talking about
01:29:02.540 canes and wands when you think of a wand yes you can have a wand like a a little wand but you can also
01:29:11.100 have what a staff like a gandalf staff okay these things are not an accident this is not by accident
01:29:19.100 they were throwing down with with moses right when uh he was turning his his rod into a snake yeah so
01:29:23.980 same thing snake just like this just a snake cane what the fuck man yep this gets weird no no it's not
01:29:35.820 and also here on the previous one this shield okay you just see the shield and this but look at this
01:29:44.060 upside down cross and i have to tell you guys that's on the cane and you know they'll say oh that was an
01:29:51.740 accident because everything is so purposeful in symbology symbology is never an accident these
01:29:58.940 are people that are working with intricate tiny symbols the this was done for a purpose you know
01:30:05.500 this is the argument that i make when you um in my early days as a conspiracy theorist one of the
01:30:10.860 first things that cued me into something strange going on was all the symbolism that you would find
01:30:14.780 in hollywood and in uh the music industry and people would say well that's just their number one
01:30:20.140 some of it's an accident number two it's just there to kind of cause um you know arise and i would think
01:30:27.980 about the idea that all of this is done so purposefully you know you have set designers
01:30:33.580 that make sure that everything is exactly as it should be they care about the spacing between one
01:30:38.620 object to another the position the lighting none of this is on accident no especially like kubrick
01:30:45.020 yeah like like you can learn that from film so easily like it isn't what we say as much as what
01:30:51.660 you see a lot of times in film that's why silent films were some of the first i'm going to turn this
01:30:57.100 down because this is a reenactment i do want to state this this is an older reenactment they have gotten
01:31:04.620 away from some of these rituals i will explain which ones they are when it's done playing have they
01:31:09.500 gotten away from it 1980 so um and there was one other change in the 2000s about veiling of the
01:31:17.660 faces for women which they no longer have to do as well and i'll tell all of those things but the
01:31:22.620 if we showed you the whole ceremony it's like over two hours long so you wouldn't want to sit here for
01:31:27.500 that but this is just a little clip and we'll go through i gotta turn it down because it's for some
01:31:31.340 reason it recorded super loud i don't know why all right what you are seeing is an authentic first
01:31:38.620 time ever on film reenactment of secret mormon temple ceremonies that even most mormons have never
01:31:44.620 seen and those who have have sworn never to reveal these secrets under penalty of death the execution
01:31:51.180 of the penalty is represented by placing the right thumb under the left ear drawing the thumb quickly
01:31:56.940 across the throat to the right ear and dropping the hand to the side all of us who've been through
01:32:02.620 the temple of sworn solemn oaths consenting to having our throat slit and our heart and our vitals
01:32:10.860 thrown torn out the execution of the penalty is represented by drawing the thumb quickly across
01:32:16.620 the body and dropping the hands to the side in the mormon temple marriage the partners are sealed to each
01:32:23.020 other for time and all eternity in mason-like rituals and without this ceremony no one can enter the
01:32:29.900 presence of joseph smith and become a god hey lay air brother pratt having authority i wash your
01:32:40.860 preparatory receiving your anointings foreign on behalf of john kimball who is dead that you may become
01:32:47.580 clean from the blood and sins of this generation mr bradford i wash your preparatory receiving your
01:32:55.100 anointings foreign behalf of eliza barrett eliza barrett who is dead that you may become clean from
01:33:01.180 the blood and sins of this generation i wash your head that your brain and intellect may become clear
01:33:06.780 and active your eyes that you may see clearly and discern between truth and error thousands of occultic
01:33:12.940 ceremonies each day are performed for the dead so that they too can receive the benefits of mormonism
01:33:19.660 mormons are encouraged to have encounters with the dead and it's not uncommon for demons
01:33:24.380 impersonating the dead to appear to mormons stating that they've been converted to the mormon church in
01:33:29.260 the spirit world and now want their family history traced your loins that you may be fruitful and multiply
01:33:36.380 and replenish the earth that you may have joy in your posterity your vitals and bowels that they may
01:33:42.700 be strong and healthy and perform their proper function your breasts that it may be the receptacle
01:33:48.220 of pure and virtuous principles they don't cup your boob because what we're saying here is if they've
01:33:56.700 acknowledged these practices but have since moved away from them according to you the 1980s then uh no they
01:34:03.580 just changed them a tiny bit no they still do them so then what i would ask is is the achieving of
01:34:10.300 godhood still uh a crucial component to these things well they say that never happened and they put it in
01:34:17.900 the journal of discourses that the adam man um like man to god theory is gone they they outruled that they
01:34:24.940 also took away kolob no more planet so i don't know anymore because um i i don't know they go back and
01:34:33.100 forth on this stuff because of how bad it looks well so because my my issue is if there was ever a
01:34:39.340 precedent for um an interest in achieving godhood well that is very simply the lie that was told in
01:34:47.660 the garden is that you can be as god and yes to me that raises a tremendous amount of red flags and
01:34:54.220 yep it is unfortunate then that we're in a position where we can't seem to uh you know show without
01:35:03.420 the idea of like oh well that's not a good you know that don't do that really true right right
01:35:08.540 because it's like if you can prove that well then the foundations of what you've built your your church
01:35:14.460 on are you know there's a core of truth in there which allows it to stand but it joseph had fruit
01:35:21.180 joseph you know if if he if we throw out the things that he has placed and said he he spoke
01:35:29.260 directly to god about this then what is left right but every prophet afterward says they also speak
01:35:36.380 directly to god and they change it a little and they change it a little just like allowing black
01:35:39.980 people to have the priesthood that didn't happen until 1978 before that they couldn't go to heaven
01:35:45.580 the top heaven they just couldn't and so you know i watched something recently um i think this is
01:35:53.020 this is jesus's brother and the black people yeah it was this whole idea that um i could be getting
01:35:58.380 this wrong i think it was mormonism it was a hilarious cartoon i'm not saying the cartoon was
01:36:02.460 accurate but it was an old cartoon that was probably in the 80s or 90s and it was all about um the
01:36:09.180 demons who were aligned with the fallen and the humans who were aligned with god and that black
01:36:18.860 people had black skin because they weren't willing to pick a side yep was that more okay that's what
01:36:24.620 yep that's true that's very they haven't um they haven't really gone away from that per se until it
01:36:31.660 was unpolitically correct same thing as the shield um the open poncho thing that the lady was wearing
01:36:38.860 you used to when i went through you had to be naked and that shield was all you had on
01:36:43.100 for a time when they were in blessing you and doing all that stuff that they were showing you
01:36:47.020 and preparatory but now so many people complain because nobody likes that like you're butt naked
01:36:52.700 and my great grandma told me like consider yourself lucky i got like scrubbed in a tub like naked
01:36:58.700 so like okay all these things have changed uh and i'm like okay so now they just wear a baptism
01:37:06.300 suit that zips up and and i get that they're trying to be politically correct but this is
01:37:10.860 why there's so many branches of mormonism because same thing happened with polygamy when the polygamy
01:37:16.780 stuff came to a head that's why the flds went one way which you know my brother-in-law is warren
01:37:23.820 jeff's nephew and so um i've done a whole show on that he he came on and talked once they usually
01:37:30.780 don't speak out but he did um and he did get excommunicated from the church and they took his
01:37:36.620 wives and it's a whole big thing but they stayed true to what the real things were taught in the
01:37:42.060 original like book of mormon because it's been abridged a whole bunch yeah and so thing happens
01:37:47.020 in a lot of churches right like uh my wife will update me occasionally because she's an ex-jehovah
01:37:51.660 witness and uh she will say oh did you know that the jehovah witnesses now allow this thing that they
01:37:56.380 didn't allow before yeah yeah the garments they're trying to yeah and they're trying to keep with the
01:38:02.060 times and but because of that you're right there's a splintering effect which just creates more um
01:38:07.900 versions of the same thing and and i think that honestly i have more respect uh if you stood true
01:38:14.780 to the original tenets despite the fact that they're not palatable for the general public just so we
01:38:19.980 because then you're doing what god said still right exactly but it's like how and they took out the
01:38:26.060 throat slitting and the belly slitting because we're no longer slitting the throats of people
01:38:31.820 who we can't do it i guess yeah i guess make them lay on their arms i guess until they lose feeling
01:38:37.820 yeah that's what they do and then this veiling of the faces for women used to be because
01:38:44.140 they didn't have the priesthood and now that's not a thing either and these aprons are green they just
01:38:48.780 this is a dark photo um and we're gonna get into why they're green so these are real pictures from
01:38:54.780 inside the real temple ceremony so i just want you guys to look at the thumb placement this isn't
01:39:00.860 just like oh i'm raising my hands up this is what they're in a circle and they're chanting um oh god
01:39:07.180 hear the words of my mouth okay it used to be peley l and he had bad hebrew and that's kind of like
01:39:14.780 a horrible translation for god of this world hear me okay that's a problem because we know who the god of
01:39:21.180 this world is and then we get into signs okay that looks real familiar yeah see the thumb typhon this
01:39:30.700 is oto black magic stuff this is not oto came later but i'm saying this stuff carries forward from
01:39:37.260 magical places because i was gonna say this doesn't look like i mean this looks like oto or even um
01:39:43.500 there was something else that has a very similar imagery so i thought this was the latter notice but
01:39:47.980 that's not right this this isn't but this is they're doing the same sign right so they they
01:39:55.500 won't tell you that they're not going to say that but yeah i often wonder who the god is that they
01:40:00.700 worship you know when you asked me that that was one of the things that i always always thought about
01:40:06.700 after i got out because you know in mormon theology we all lived in a pre-existence and we lived up in
01:40:13.500 heaven and made all these spirit babies and you know they were the spirit babies were made by god
01:40:18.300 and we all come down and choose we choose all our own problems we choose our families we choose
01:40:22.220 everything that happens to us um so it's your own problem if you chose that but also you know lucifer was
01:40:30.700 jesus's brother directly and so you know this gets into some weird some weird theology now that is a
01:40:39.100 one hell of a statement lucifer was jesus's brother and that's not something that i'm hearing for the
01:40:43.900 first time uh but it's certainly something that is contentious to say the least yes and uh and
01:40:50.540 actually those green aprons were given to us when you're in the middle of that ceremony let me go
01:40:55.420 back and you're sitting and you're going through this ceremony you have your apron with you and your
01:41:01.100 one breasted robe just like the oto and all that it's all look you guys can look it up it's all
01:41:07.180 a hundred percent like oto masonry type stuff but anyway you you have your apron sitting and
01:41:15.420 at the point where you know adam's kicked out into the lone and dreary world and he's down crying out
01:41:21.340 for god and he's calling out for god calling out for god and what happens lucifer comes he it's it's not
01:41:28.380 god he's calling out for the god of this world and lucifer shows up and he's like hey what's your
01:41:32.620 problem like he's like oh we did this bad thing and he's like oh you better put some clothes on
01:41:37.660 because you're kind of naked god's gonna know and so he's like well what do you have on because he has
01:41:42.620 on a priesthood apron it's black it used to be masonic and he says what is that and he says it's a sign
01:41:49.420 it's a token of my priesthoods and powers now i mean and then so everybody stands and they go please
01:41:59.420 put your apron on because satan gave us the apron and it's a fig leaves but i'm like why are we doing
01:42:04.780 what satan told us to do what's happening like right that what sense does that make in any world
01:42:12.060 like no it doesn't you know they can't explain it away and that's why it's not supposed to be let out
01:42:17.900 but the secret's out of the bag now so what are we looking also when you get married in the temple
01:42:23.820 your little mirror story is going to come into play i like it a lot that it came up that's
01:42:28.220 interesting because i literally just took a video the other day all i did was like
01:42:32.220 open my cabinet so one mirror reflected off the other yeah i said um is this unsettling to like
01:42:38.540 anybody else yeah portal okay so this is mirror magic and mirror magic is well known to practitioners
01:42:47.580 they use it all the time where you face the mirrors and that goes on forever and ever it creates a
01:42:52.060 portal when you get married in the temple you are looking into these mirrors and you are bowing over
01:42:59.500 this altar see the mirrors and you are looking into them saying you'll be married for time and all
01:43:05.900 eternity not just time no and so because i do really like my wife and sometimes i think about like i'm like
01:43:15.980 i would and to be honest that i you know this is maybe this is weird to some people like when i die
01:43:20.860 um with whatever sentience i still have i'll be looking for her first so i always always wondered
01:43:28.140 why the buck stops at death and i kind of like that the mormon church is like yeah also for like all
01:43:34.940 eternity well because the angels it says we will become as the angels and angels are neither male nor
01:43:41.420 female nor do they have wives and stuff so i think we will all be together like a family but i don't think it
01:43:48.220 will be in the sexual way because that what happened there like that got the angels thrown out of
01:43:53.500 heaven so right like i yeah so i think that's kind of the basis but i do think it's probably like an
01:43:59.740 elevated more pure love like in a way but you know this is more the thing that i worry about with this
01:44:06.140 when you're bowing over this altar like a what is in here what is in there and b um you're doing this
01:44:13.500 mirror magic and you're saying these things are you opening yourself up as a portal because now
01:44:19.580 you have gone through the temple and you have received your holy underwear your new underwear
01:44:24.300 and they have the the square and compass on them over what over your orifices right over your nipples
01:44:31.820 which have openings over your belly button which has an opening and over your knee and every knee shall bow
01:44:39.500 and actually that is also linked back to witchcraft the the slave will serve on the knee anyway um
01:44:49.580 yes they they did update these garments and i gotta add a photo in these are now slightly sleeveless
01:44:56.780 they're like a kind of like a tank top like a muscle shirt more um which is amazing i never thought
01:45:03.500 they would do it and a slip for the women instead of just these crazy so you could wear underwear
01:45:10.460 underneath the slip i guess but i often no they're horrible you have to wear those underneath your your
01:45:18.300 regular stuff so you got to put the bra over top of it and then you gotta put that then you gotta put
01:45:23.500 the clothes it's so many clothes and i run so warm i'm like i hate this i hate this so much and you
01:45:30.220 never feel sexy ever again i'm so glad i got to the magic underwear segment of this you have to wear
01:45:35.020 that old yes so there's only sometimes that you can take them off i'll let you know back in the
01:45:39.820 olden days like my grandma they would not even take them off when they showered they would keep one
01:45:44.780 foot in the garment and stick their one leg like out of the tub or whatever and nowadays you can take
01:45:50.860 them off to go swimming uh to go to the gym to make more mormons haha and um what else let's see
01:46:00.380 that's it i mean you have lots of pairs of these you know they're like your underwear so you just talk
01:46:06.700 not nice guy were you wearing this when we saw you hell yeah he was he showed me what are they made of
01:46:13.740 they're all different fabrics they actually offer a lot of different fabrics now some are cotton some
01:46:18.940 are poly blend some are cotton poly blend some are silky is because the bible warns against wearing
01:46:24.300 like certain you know mixing certain cloths and i think there might be something too they are mixed
01:46:28.620 there is a cotton poly yeah so cotton has a uh a frequency associated with it that is significantly
01:46:36.220 higher than like a poly blend and the poly blend poly blend associated with it that's the equivalent of
01:46:41.980 like a dead body so they mostly are poly blend or lycra or mesh or nylon or the cotton poly blend which
01:46:51.420 no one wears the cotton ones because they're super hot so yeah nobody does that anymore but originally
01:46:57.500 they did see they've evolved this was the original and this looks very close to the jewish um garment
01:47:03.820 that they wear underneath their clothes uh-huh and then it evolved to this one piece with the poop
01:47:08.780 shoot in the back and then they evolved to the boxer briefs like in a t-shirt which is much more
01:47:16.380 handleable at least it's not gay like i mean it hasn't gotten to the point where it's like a thong
01:47:22.540 you know like everything else in society although thomas feels it should be thomas is like we should
01:47:27.340 make him awesome underwear and then everybody would want some yeah if you make them nice if you make them
01:47:33.100 they will come something like that yes he he feels that thomas is very obsessed with the magical
01:47:38.620 underpants just likes to wear thongs though it's not i think maybe with mormonism it's a thing could
01:47:43.340 be just keep trying to uh consult him on we're like we don't have to do that actually yeah stop that
01:47:50.540 yeah no this is um we have a baby bush magic handshake but you have to understand this is the prophet of
01:47:57.900 the church at the time and you should know that you never never ever do these signs if you're a
01:48:03.420 mormon i know masons can outside of the temple i guess unless you're the prophet you should not be
01:48:09.660 doing this this is the mormonization of the masonic handshakes because all they did is they took them
01:48:17.740 and instead of calling this the sure grip of the lion's paw or whatever they made it the sure sign of
01:48:22.700 the nail and made it about jesus so then i wonder where what is the origin of these sort of uh no
01:48:30.140 they're mason they're all masonic hen grips they're 100 stolen what i would ask then is like where did
01:48:35.420 the masons get them yeah that i don't know that that's always the thing that i i've been going back
01:48:41.260 to lately and i'm very open to the idea of being wrong you know this is just something that i'm
01:48:45.100 exploring but i always return to this idea that they cannot create they can only invert right and so
01:48:51.020 you know did they create where did it come from system or is there precedence for these things or
01:48:57.740 angel magic right and back to angels yeah right i'm not sure but it is interesting that you know
01:49:05.180 you'll see them breaking rules when it's convenient for them uh-huh this is the picture that i told you
01:49:10.940 i would get to and tell you about rome so this is the prophet right now the president of the church
01:49:16.060 looking like a he's doing a masonic sign on the key but whatever you'd have to be one of the club
01:49:23.100 to know that um b he is in rome and so the vatican is right down the road and basically and actually
01:49:31.900 paranoid american was like holy crap that is not true and i'm like yes it is and he's like they did
01:49:37.100 not allow them to build a temple right by the vatican i'm like yes they did and they did and this is the
01:49:42.300 first time ever in history that they have allowed this and this is why i do feel with the whole gates
01:49:47.580 thing with with the catholic rotary club like all this stuff you guys would have to hear that episode
01:49:53.500 but like all of these financial ties and the mormons all together it's like they are they're not hiding
01:50:00.140 it anymore like i feel like they're all going to combine very soon to this the one world religion is
01:50:05.180 already here they just don't let you know that long ago that they erected and it was only for a
01:50:10.300 temporary stay i forget what the reason was but um the vatican had to sign off on it because it was
01:50:16.220 within vatican city um they erected a statue albeit temporary of moloch and yeah and you know that was
01:50:25.980 like a really wild moment because when they did it the conversation surrounding you know the hillary
01:50:34.300 clinton emails and anthony wiener's laptop all that stuff was at its peak and within a year or two
01:50:40.860 of that moment in time which which uh thomas did an excellent job at brohemian grove of highlighting that
01:50:48.540 probably around 2020 um there was actually upwards of 40 of the population believed in the sentiment
01:50:55.580 that the elites were trafficking um children oh for sure and i think that's even more evident i have a
01:51:01.580 whole episode on how those connects go together with diddy and into yeah it's just it's yeah well
01:51:08.940 i can tell you right now that we we'd love to have you back um thank you but but it's just a wild time
01:51:15.740 for the vatican to approve the erection of a of a statue so bad very well and maybe you're right they
01:51:22.220 never do anything on accident and so and also remember we're talking about the key of solomon and what is he
01:51:29.420 grabbing the key so does he have the keys to the palace now is that what we're symbolizing here like
01:51:35.340 great speculation and look i know he's old um but i don't think he's just there's one in line there's
01:51:41.580 another well i'm saying i don't think he's just you know no no no this is like this is this is a masonic
01:51:48.380 sign that he's doing too yes so the the there's no way this is an accident and i'm telling you guys
01:51:54.700 these you know how they say like people that watch the news and the president's on and they're like
01:52:00.540 look at this guy in the left corner he's doing weird stuff i'm like this is kind of this you know
01:52:05.260 like this is a message for other people and i have to tell you guys i think it's about money this episode
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01:53:36.140 when you visit real rife technology.com i think the mormon church snuck up on the catholic church and other
01:53:44.060 churches with their very dedicated people because you have to understand something about mormons and
01:53:51.340 especially if you want to go to the temple you don't just pay what you want to pay you don't just
01:53:56.060 put it in the basket that's a joke no way mormons are dedicated to the point where we have to give 10
01:54:03.660 of our income and then what you do is you make an appointment with your bishop and you do tithing
01:54:09.020 settlement and you take your taxes in and you show them what you made and then they tell you how much
01:54:14.220 you owe the church and you do pay it on your gross not your net yes that's brutal so they don't play
01:54:21.020 is what i'm saying like at all ever no so that's a mandatory tithe yeah that's uh yeah that's something
01:54:28.540 or you don't go to the temple nope a mandatory tithe 10 that seems um unethical yep well they do lots
01:54:40.940 of fun things let me tell you talking about unethical and since we're talking about money
01:54:45.660 which i love that we were because this is perfect timing i want to show you guys some symbols speaking
01:54:50.620 in symbol language these symbols are on the temple these symbols are the sign of the melchizedek priesthood
01:54:57.500 okay right here this symbol is a symbol for mammon the god of money on solomonic magic
01:55:05.580 oh no that's just i don't think that's just a yeah architectural
01:55:09.660 surprise have you considered that it just looks nice it does look nice
01:55:16.460 yeah and then they put the circle in the middle and my conjecture now this is conjecture is when
01:55:21.980 they do this circle that's for the representation of this because they cannot put that on there there's
01:55:27.740 no way they would they would get in deep trouble so also remember what i told you guys when i said
01:55:33.260 when it's in a seal and they call this the melchizedek priesthood seal the seal they're not hiding that
01:55:41.740 when they do this and it's open and it's not got the circle around it that means they're communing
01:55:47.340 with that specific spirit now why is the church why is the mormon church one of the richest churches
01:55:53.420 well remember mammon he's over money i wonder if mammon would be the same thing as rain man just because
01:56:01.260 i i know that rain man yeah he's it's claimed that he is responsible for being able to move
01:56:07.020 you know great wealth from one place to another um that was like his main focus and then there was
01:56:12.380 one other thing that was less alluring i would say uh but there was there was a financial aspect
01:56:18.700 that it you know this was something you could leverage for for wealth let's see i'm trying to
01:56:24.700 google it really fast because i was like i'm gonna hurry while he's talking and see but of course rain
01:56:30.540 man it is it says it's not the spirit rain man but it is the biblical term for riches that is often
01:56:37.100 used to describe material wealth but also this is just quickly on google this isn't a real well
01:56:42.460 it's you know google would even address that mammon is a fallen angel who is more interested in heaven's
01:56:48.220 pavements and the leader mammon is similar to the greek god plutus i'm sure that there are multiple
01:56:55.740 entities that deal with similar subjects some are more impactful some are less you know some ask more or
01:57:02.540 less of you yes i'm well and money where money's concerned it makes you wonder what they're doing
01:57:08.780 at the top top level i'm interested here what is happening okay so remember when i told you i had a
01:57:15.020 little show about p diddy and i i always kind of pay attention about because i love conspiracies you know
01:57:21.980 i'm a conspiracy theorist and i when diddy got arrested this popped up all of a sudden on my phone
01:57:28.780 and i took a quick screenshot of it because i was like what is happening here on the same day that
01:57:33.100 diddy got arrested every board member of 23andme quit every single one yes that's right so but but
01:57:40.620 yeah well the lady the main and and we're chicky yes okay but and we're chicky just so you guys know
01:57:47.180 her sister ran youtube and she just barely died in august yeah but guess what and um sister's son also
01:57:57.180 just died in march because he had an accidental overdose yeah so whenever i see so many die die
01:58:03.100 die down the line i'm like what is happening because i know one thing about ancestry.com i know that the
01:58:09.660 mormon church doesn't own it but the mormon church owns the program that pours into every single dna
01:58:16.460 anything in the world probably it's called um familysearch.org and familysearch.org started a
01:58:23.020 long time ago and all of the genealogy that the mormon church has they built a batman cave i'm not
01:58:30.860 kidding and they blew the side of a mountain open and they have over three billion things of genealogy in
01:58:38.380 here this is yes that why but why right like why is it rock by the other one i think it has closed now
01:58:48.060 i'm not a hundred percent sure if that deals went through but it was speculated that that was supposed
01:58:51.740 to happen so this is the highly secure you cannot go in this at all you cannot get near it razor wire
01:59:00.860 the whole like a freaking like you'd probably get ripped apart i don't even know i don't know why but
01:59:07.020 all of a sudden i'm struck with the notion of an ark this idea of preserving genetic material so that it
01:59:13.740 can be or or it's more nefarious than that and they've got fallen angel technology stuff in here
01:59:20.060 going on and they're cloning things but that's just my brain i mean goodness man it is the side of a
01:59:26.540 mountain heidi can i just say you're crushing you're absolutely crushing thank you yeah dude this is
01:59:33.660 major i'm glad i'm so glad that you guys are having fun because i love this like the genealogy stuff and
01:59:42.860 the the bloodline stuff that would fall right in line with whatever the aliens are doing or the
01:59:46.780 demons so so you guys know joseph smith once claimed that he was the descendant of jesus
01:59:54.220 right that's what i thought too and the funny thing about mormons is they kind of all look the same
01:59:59.260 like if you and i know polygamy was a thing like i get it but also like all of these people that these
02:00:05.420 demons which i believe are demons talk to right they're like go make as many babies as you freaking
02:00:10.780 can marry all the women have all the babies do all the things and i'm like well is that their
02:00:16.220 essence somehow like are they spreading that and corrupting the dna even further like i feel we've
02:00:21.420 all been corrupted at this point and it doesn't really matter well how do you feel do you resonate
02:00:25.500 with that idea of like a gary wayne seed war i i have a full episode on cabbage babies and dna and
02:00:34.780 like cloning yeah yeah i think it's a hundred percent i think the seed war is real i think
02:00:41.580 there was a split with the cane and abel twins yeah yeah so i i feel like i feel like that the whole
02:00:50.940 thing with the genealogy and the whole thing with 2020 in general was a huge grab on dna and you have
02:00:56.860 to understand something even if you never did the test even if you never participate in anything when you
02:01:03.260 are born as a nurse i know this for a fact when you are born you do something called a pku test on
02:01:10.380 every infant unless they are completely not registered period in the world supposedly to test
02:01:16.860 for a milk allergy well there's this big kind of controversy on and i have some stuff in my my other
02:01:25.820 show about this with the actual genetic lines and the dna lines i'm not talking about like i think okay i'm
02:01:32.380 talking about the dna lines supposedly of adam and and all these things and enoch and this whole big
02:01:38.220 story okay and they've got them nailed down even to the nephilim and possibly what i feel they do with
02:01:46.220 these cards that have five litmus papers thick and they they dry them and they can they're perfect to
02:01:52.780 like file they have these on every single person ever in america at least i know because i've done a lot
02:01:59.020 of them before i knew even what they were um but the the milk allergy thing has a weird flip-flop
02:02:07.260 for nephilim bloodlines nephilim bloodlines um actually can drink supposedly to this dna this dna
02:02:15.260 the dna is real whether it's nephilim or not i don't know the conjecture as it is but this particular
02:02:22.300 bloodline their actual genetics are there are more rh negative factors they tend to be more pale
02:02:29.740 and very light and can tolerate milk for all of their life they don't have to worry about a milk
02:02:35.180 allergy ever or even a sensitivity they tend to have extremely pale eyes or green sound familiar like all of
02:02:43.100 this and that is actual documented dna information whether that's a real line of the nephilim i do not
02:02:50.380 know but these are the people that we're talking about when you go into the rh negative factor and
02:02:56.140 the people that live out in the mountains i can't remember their name right now um as somebody who has
02:03:01.820 i have hazel eyes so there's a i i have green eye yeah and also i'm a big milk enjoyer i hope this is not
02:03:08.380 true big fan i i understand totally because i have green eyes green hazel eyes and uh you know if joseph
02:03:16.540 smith was a line i'm a line because i'm a settler but i feel like that's weird to even that they even
02:03:22.940 know that right i told you that would come back up so were they looking for something yeah i believe
02:03:28.700 they are that gene of isis that gary wayne talks about yeah i i believe so you know i can't prove that
02:03:34.940 but i will tell you this mormons are obsessed with transhumanism this isn't from the church per
02:03:41.020 se but this is a group mormon transhumanist association they are very big mormons are huge
02:03:47.820 on like technology they also like love like star wars star trek all these things like anything in
02:03:53.260 the future all that kind of stuff they're just huge nerds about it like and that's always been the case
02:03:59.740 and i feel like that this is also from the vault this is one row in the vault of drawers
02:04:05.820 yeah this is serious every and this reminded that this is all about nephilim
02:04:15.020 and fallen angels yep you're not wrong and here's one of the prophets of the church saying
02:04:23.420 as humanity now is god once was as god now is humanity may become and same with joseph smith he
02:04:29.580 said the same thing and they've they've taken this down now remember you don't get a planet you don't
02:04:35.180 get to be a god none of the things now you don't get polygamy none of the good things are there
02:04:39.260 anymore don't worry just got to have a lot of kids and work all the time and have a lot of money
02:04:45.100 right but there's that and then that skipped forward this is okay so this is on the mormon church this is
02:04:54.140 on the nauvoo temple actually the temple not church temple is different than church churches are
02:05:00.380 a dime a dozen but the temple is sacred they all face east by the way um their cornerstones used
02:05:06.540 to have huge cornerstone ceremonies like i i could go into i could go 40 000 ways till tuesday we would
02:05:12.220 never be done like it it's the gift that keeps on giving but these two things the inverted pentagram
02:05:19.740 which is largely associated with church of satan type stuff but in solomonic magic a little bit
02:05:25.740 different and again here's a seal okay so this is a command remember this is a command that you must
02:05:32.140 do that's a pentacle not a pentagram you must do what that says if you are doing the work in a seal
02:05:40.460 and the other one isn't and and these two that i researched and you guys can look up solomonic magic
02:05:45.580 tables i i think i have one i may show here in just a minute but um my conjecture about this is
02:05:51.820 concerning all this genealogy that the church is doing and all of these things for the dead that
02:05:57.100 they do they do weddings for the dead in there they do that mirror thing for them in there they
02:06:01.820 do the baptisms for them in there they do all the same things that the regular people do okay
02:06:06.380 in fact the only time pocket here but it sounds like you it's like brushing with necromancy oh no it's
02:06:13.580 necromancy for sure for sure and i feel that okay the first time you go through is for you but
02:06:20.060 every single time you go through for the rest of your life which they encourage you to go multiple
02:06:23.580 times a month is for a dead person period there's no other way so i often wondered after i read about
02:06:31.740 what these meant are they bringing things down and locking them in along with your relatives
02:06:39.980 that you are doing these ceremonies for and if that is true are they never able to ascend
02:06:45.580 and are they taking yeah are they taking that as a big huge loose grab when they do these extra
02:06:55.420 ceremonies that i'm certain that they have i know of one for sure that we can talk about a different
02:06:59.500 day called the second anointing that makes their place sure in heaven it means they've already been
02:07:04.700 prejudged and that they are going to heaven no matter what they do except murder so if they go rape
02:07:10.220 somebody it doesn't matter and i think this plays into the fact that they could be really hurting
02:07:17.660 people kids and or whatever to meet the needs of angels or whatever fallen angels um and not feel guilt
02:07:27.820 right anymore because they don't have to be worried about that unless they kill someone so there are some
02:07:35.180 sexual abuse cases with that pace memo thing with sra victims that are very disturbing that we could
02:07:41.740 talk about a different day lori vallow just killed her kids and said we wouldn't understand why because
02:07:47.900 we don't get it yeah and she buried them and took off and this goes around a cult inside a cult which is
02:07:55.500 a whole nother deal we we'll talk about but there's a demonic side of of the mormon church hooked with a
02:08:02.460 book and it's a whole thing but lord the lori vallow chad daybell case is huge and they they found a circle
02:08:09.900 around where they died like there was a magical circle there i've talked to lori vallow's niece and
02:08:17.180 i'm telling you guys there is something making these people go completely crazy just like uh what's his name
02:08:25.340 from timmy boy from the sound of freedom stuff all these people that seem just crazy no you don't
02:08:33.820 just become crazy for nothing you were told something or you did something that made something happen to
02:08:39.420 you probably you know not because they were fine before that we're not talking about genetics here
02:08:45.660 these people are far past the age for schizophrenia i work in mental health they're far past schizophrenic
02:08:50.540 age um i you know after you live enough life and you talk to enough people i really don't buy into
02:08:57.740 that idea that some people just lose their mind i mean there's a there's a catalyst for it there's a
02:09:04.380 there's a moment something that happens and yeah they've just they break into something that doesn't
02:09:09.900 make sense to us um but i i don't think there are very many cases you could point to where the human
02:09:15.740 mind just breaks in such a way that all of a sudden people just go crazy and don't make sense i mean we
02:09:21.100 talked to i'm gonna say it uh dr jerry marzynski and he does a great job of of explaining what
02:09:26.940 schizophrenia is and i tend to agree with him and if you agree with his take that this is some sort of
02:09:32.380 demonic oppression or influenced by uh entities then you would say oh okay sure it doesn't make sense
02:09:38.460 their behavior now but i can understand why they behave the way they do i don't understand
02:09:43.740 what they now believe or what they suspect but there's a catalyst there's something going on
02:09:48.300 here it's not just your brain is broken and you stop making sense and why would she say my kids are
02:09:54.700 happy you don't get it my kids are fulfilled and happy and busy and doing this business blah blah blah
02:10:00.940 okay so you have to remember and i always tell like my family this because we've lost a lot of family
02:10:06.300 members including my brother who was younger than me to an accidental overdose which is why i work in
02:10:11.100 mental health but you cannot absence absence on the earth is presence with the lord they can become
02:10:19.100 anything that your heart desires they know you better than you know you and if you want an occult person
02:10:26.300 like they know the bible better than we know the bible the only thing that the occult has a one up on
02:10:32.940 us is because christians are too afraid to study it right and so there's a quote about the occult saying
02:10:41.580 if you don't want to know anything about the occult the occult wants to know a whole lot about you
02:10:47.500 and you know this was put on my heart like i didn't go on this journey for fun like this and me being
02:10:54.060 a podcaster and everything was nothing i ever thought i would do ever in my life god was like i i was in a
02:11:01.260 very desperate situation and i was praying and praying praying and i said i'll do anything and god
02:11:07.900 was like well you're gonna do this i felt like and i'm like no i don't i only know like five people and
02:11:13.740 at least four of them don't like me no way uh-uh i was like i'm not doing that and so god just kept
02:11:22.620 putting on my heart but i'm like what would i even talk about you're crazy i don't even know so then i
02:11:27.020 wrote to josh monday and i was telling him about this school this is one of my episodes that i do
02:11:32.380 i have a whole bunch of them different things and i said this is really demonic you should check it
02:11:36.860 out um love your podcast bye and he's like no no no no no you come on and i'm like no way i don't do
02:11:43.100 that i i don't know what i'd even know you do it i gave you the information and he's like you just
02:11:48.700 isaac weishaupt this whole thing why can't you come and say it you've got the notes already and i'm like
02:11:54.460 no and he talked me into it i had my son's phone or my son's puzzle light my phone that was like my
02:12:01.180 first podcast i am 48 i didn't know how to run the computer i i cried my first seven episodes on
02:12:08.300 editing i had no idea yeah it's let me tell you talking is the fun part the information is the
02:12:14.220 fun part the back end in production is oh my gosh it's drudgery but yes um heidi i do want to say that
02:12:21.100 we've been going for two hours yeah 10 minutes we're good yeah i want to bring it in for a
02:12:25.180 landing um but we'll go over that another day you need to come back um i will come back no problem
02:12:33.500 i'm going to shut this because i've had a tremendous couple of days uh we can bring that down here let's
02:12:38.860 bring it down let's see um oh go ahead top sorry there we go you did it a tremendous amount or a
02:12:44.460 tremendous 48 hours for me because i stumbled upon a conspiracy theory yesterday that lit me up like um
02:12:51.260 like i haven't been since i was a teenager and i first fell in love with the conspiracies and now
02:12:56.140 to come in and do this it's like i'm having this feeling uh back to back today it's very you know
02:13:00.620 it's funny so told my dad about it today couldn't couldn't care less he was like whatever i was like
02:13:07.580 i get excited when i come across a good body of uh of conspiracy like nothing else it's not not
02:13:16.140 there's not a good show that does it for me there's not a good movie there's not like a good
02:13:20.620 conspiracy i'm like that too yes i always say people like i don't understand why i'm like have
02:13:25.340 you tried that's why four people don't like me yeah exactly like why are you looking at this crap like
02:13:29.660 because it's better than um than whatever's on netflix it's better than whatever's on hulu
02:13:35.660 uh it is reality is you you can really fall in love with the the strange details of the realm
02:13:43.740 that we inhabit um heidi one more time for the people let everybody know where it is they can
02:13:48.940 find your work you bet i am heidi love i'm at the unfiltered rise i'm everywhere podcasts are served
02:13:55.100 and i do have my patreon i do have my website and you will get two extra shows a month and sometimes
02:14:01.260 more just depends on what shenanigans we're up to that month um also i just mentioned that on my
02:14:08.060 patreon we do more of the murders mormons and mayhem so just for fun facts did you guys know that ted
02:14:14.460 bundy was um a mormon and also so was israel keys and so yes there are many people including charlie
02:14:24.060 chaplain and um multiple people that are in the nazi issues yes the nazi stuff so it gets weird
02:14:32.460 and i like it i like to be a little weird that's probably why girls hate me so i love it i love it
02:14:38.220 guys go and support heidi heidi is doing some deep diving and uh and excellent presenting when it comes
02:14:46.620 you do a great job of laying this out um but i can tell that there is a tremendous amount of meat left
02:14:51.500 on the bone uh yeah so we've got to revisit this i don't know it's like a 200 year religion and we're
02:14:56.860 like i got two hours i know yes we did it though that was we were one slide away anyways and it's
02:15:03.020 just a bunch of symbols on the temple so we made it uh well there's there's still plenty of reason to
02:15:08.380 to bring you back heidi i want to thank you for your time uh and you know thank you to the audience
02:15:13.340 uh everybody who watches shout out not nice guy i hope everything's okay uh on your end and he's upset
02:15:19.420 he's upset i'm i'm watching the comments yeah he's gonna get more upset when i come back and
02:15:24.220 talk about other things he asked he's like you got it i think he was the one that asked you to come on
02:15:29.420 so he's a glutton for punishment i'll tell him i'll tell him some more crazy things well something tells
02:15:37.420 me that despite uh his disagreements he's still a fan of uh of of your work because he was very adamant
02:15:43.820 that we speak to you so awesome um is that it top i don't have anything else to ramble that's
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02:16:28.140 uh once again uh heidi thank you so much for your time thank you all right guys peace out