In this episode of the End of Days podcast, David Lee Corbo (The Raven, Top Lobster, The Father of Disinformation) is joined by writer and podcaster Nyx (Strygian charters) to discuss conspiracy theories, the paranormal, cryptids, the occult, and Christian eschatology.
00:02:26.920Nyx, please, for the people who are listening, let them know where they can find your work and what it is you focus on.
00:02:34.220Yeah, so my name is Nyx, and I recently started a podcast called Stygian Charters, and that's on all major podcast platforms.
00:02:41.420You can also find me on Instagram, Nyx, and I focus, a lot of my topics focus on discerning conspiracy truth from conspiracy fiction, the paranormal, cryptids, the occult, Christian eschatology.
00:03:03.280Those are just mystery schools, secret societies.
00:03:08.240Those are just a few of the things off the top of my head that interest me and fascinate me.
00:03:14.360And I started the show because originally I started as a content creator and just researching, and podcasters started noticing my research, and they started having me on their shows.
00:03:23.340And then eventually the podcast community encouraged me to start my own podcast, which I recently did this past summer.
00:03:31.420And the name of that is Stygian Charters.
00:03:38.260I didn't used to know what it was either.
00:03:40.300So when I was trying to come up with a name for my show, I had this vision of, like, journeying through dark waters, and since the topics, you know, often are dark, and taking people on a voyage.
00:03:54.560And I kept thinking about the Greek mythology with the river sticks and charon, which a lot of people pronounce charon, C-H-A-R-O-N.
00:04:04.700Unfortunately, the poor guy is forever associated with today's Karens of the world.
00:04:09.440But so I had this vision, and I couldn't think of how to make it work.
00:04:15.120And a little side note, I've always loved owls before I got into conspiracy stuff and knew anything about Bohemian Grove or any of that.
00:04:23.140But I've always liked owls, and I was scrolling through Instagram, and it was an ad that came up, nothing I was subscribed to, and it was this owl, and it had red eyes.
00:05:26.560It just kind of came to me, and like I was going to be taking people on a voyage through these dark subject matter.
00:05:31.900One of the things that I really enjoy lately, and I just want to say this as an aside, is this community of sort of conspiracy content creators has grown so significantly in the past couple of years.
00:05:47.820And even the shows who haven't been around a long time are heavy hitters.
00:05:54.440You know, we just talked to Justin Brown of the Promethean Lens podcast, and he crushed.
00:06:19.360So I just find it interesting that I don't know if it's indicative of this age that we're entering where suddenly people are waking up in mass, and some of us are being called to try to contribute one way or another with our own voice.
00:06:35.980But it's really cool because I think in other genres, it doesn't matter what a comedy podcast or a cultural podcast, there are always new ones that are popping up.
00:06:50.280But what I find interesting about this lane that we're in is that these people are popping up, making content like yourself, and having something real to contribute to the conversation.
00:07:01.320I've come to this place recently where I'm like, damn, everybody's got a little piece of the puzzle they're bringing to the table.
00:07:08.460And I just don't know if that's happening in other places.
00:07:11.620But it's cool to see what you're doing, and it's cool to see that we're in this just kind of this season of content creators boiling to the surface and having something to say about topics that are becoming difficult to ignore.
00:07:28.080I'm even noticing it just, you know, out in society a little bit.
00:07:33.160I kind of test the waters with certain people to see where they're at, you know, if they, you know, suspect more is going on than, you know, what's being told.
00:08:19.820And it's a hard topic to even approach.
00:08:21.800But once you start getting there, obviously, you know, the fallen angels is already like well past Satanism.
00:08:26.820And we're talking like, that's like underneath, that's the very bottom of it.
00:08:29.920But if you can get people there, then you can talk to them about, well, you know, they're actually sacrificing, doing mock human sacrifices to Moloch and Bohemian Grove and also at CERN.
00:08:39.420And, and this is real stuff that's happening.
00:08:43.600We're trying to meme our way into the culture, I suppose.
00:08:45.320I'm excited, too, for this topic, because to differentiate between like the LARPers and the more serious organizations that are out there, because you have Satanism as it's been propped up by Anton LaVey and even its Twitter handle, which, by the way, like Top Lobster has gone back and forth with.
00:09:06.720I've had a short, but nevertheless still had an interaction with them.
00:09:14.280Yeah, and, and so you can find their Twitter page.
00:09:16.620There are those who are doing it as an affront to Christianity to stick their nose up at a culture that they still perceive as being Christian, which I would, I would actually push back against that.
00:09:25.900I would say that we've come a long way since the days where you could maybe, maybe have an argument for lashing out against my staunch conservative Christian culture.
00:09:40.000So I don't even know what those LARPers are still doing, right?
00:09:41.340And then there's those who just enjoy even, even just the aesthetic of it.
00:09:44.100And it bleeds into all these other things, right?
00:09:45.860So if you like that aesthetic and you're sort of this person that dresses in what you might call goth or something like that, that is rubbing shoulders with some chick who's kind of into some washed down or watered down version of witchcraft.
00:10:01.860And so just like anything, you have more and less potent versions of it.
00:10:06.460And, and so much of it has been characterized as almost a, a, a, a sense of fashion or a musical interest or something like that.
00:10:15.180Um, even, even, even I would go as far as to say, like, if you're really into Harry Potter, which some of these kids, I grew up with them, you know, because I was born in 1990.
00:10:25.140So Harry Potter was, you know, that was my generation.
00:10:27.580And some of these people, you know, we're, we're, we're out here selling cloaks.
00:10:32.180Some of them were wearing them to school.
00:10:33.760Some of them were wearing, I don't know.
00:10:36.380But, um, and then of course there is the actual element of Satanism, Luciferianism, uh, new age movements that are much more aware that their roots are concrete in esoteric texts from thousands of years ago.
00:10:57.780The ones that I just mentioned, they give people the ability to ridicule anybody who would say, look, Satanism, they give them the ability to ridicule it as a, oh, satanic panic.
00:11:21.840And that's what drove me crazy is so many people, when you talk about Satanism or Satanism comes up, they're like, oh, well, they're, they're, it's, they don't really believe in Satan and they're atheists.
00:11:50.740But there are other sects, which we'll talk about today.
00:11:54.280And I, um, I grew up in the eighties and nineties and I remember like what they're calling the satanic panic.
00:12:00.740Now, granted, I think there's probably hoaxes in everything, of course, but I don't think this thing was an entire hoax.
00:12:06.460And there's some, um, cases at some point, um, I'll get to that show this.
00:12:13.660And I also got really upset with the landing report, which was done by an FBI, FBI agent in 1992, where he investigated ritualistic child abuse.
00:12:24.960And, um, he came back pretty much saying it's not a real thing or whatever, but there, but there's cases that have happened that suggest it could be.
00:12:34.400And that this is a topic that needs to be revisited.
00:12:38.560That is, um, something that's often dismissed, especially when it comes to the SRA angle of things.
00:12:48.360Uh, it was a really harrowing episode.
00:12:51.840She talks about her own experiences with SRA.
00:12:54.660And maybe there was a time where you could dismiss it as, you know, whatever, satanic panic, something like that.
00:13:03.620But in 2024, the amount of personal testimony has become so overwhelming.
00:13:11.280And the patterns from one testimony to the next have created such a clear and concise picture of, of what goes on and who is involved that it is ridiculous when people dismiss it, especially off the back of Epstein.
00:13:28.000I mean, we just had, you know, uh, shout out Top Lobster recently.
00:13:33.480Didn't you re-release a shirt? Epstein didn't kill himself, which I think is incredibly potent right now because of the, you know, everything that's going on with Diddy.
00:13:40.340And, um, but when you have those things that are indisputable elements of our lives here in 2024, uh, to turn around then and say, it's such a great, I'm just glad.
00:13:56.480I think it's a great, uh, we're looking at it right now for the audio listeners, uh, TopLobster.com.
00:14:11.400Yeah, I'm kind of, I'm just thinking now I'm bringing back, I brought back another design that I never released, uh, because we, we need to kind of remember what, what happened.
00:14:21.440This one here that says that the science isn't settled.
00:14:23.700I know it's like, you know, a couple of years out of it, but like, guys, we forgot what they did.
00:14:44.720Um, we just went through such a harrowing experience in both the Epstein thing and the lockdowns.
00:14:50.760And all of a sudden we've turned this corner where like, there are people who scoff at any kind of descending opinion or dissenting opinion associated with those two topics.
00:15:00.680So our ability to mull over something and just keep it moving and go back to the old narrative is, is, it's kind of unbelievable.
00:15:07.880So when it comes to this whole satanic panic thing, which in my opinion, it feels a lot like the CIA coining the term conspiracy theorists around the JFK assassination, where certainly there are room for unhinged conspiracy theories.
00:15:23.640But it's a terminology that's used to dismiss critical thinkers and dissenting opinion.
00:15:28.760So when it comes to satanic panic, surely there are people who are blowing the alarm for unfounded reasons.
00:15:35.400But then surely what we know now has shown us that there are real elements of SRA, um, you know, occult practices, rituals, ceremonies, and they're taking place at the highest level.
00:15:50.220So, uh, what are your opinions then back in the, in the eighties and nineties?
00:15:53.800I mean, this was really a terminology that was coined with the Charles Manson, um, murders.
00:16:05.880Um, but within, you know, growing up when I did, even, even to this day, there's police officers I've known.
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00:16:17.660Um, who still to this day will be like, yeah, like there's evil shit going on out there.
00:16:47.340I mean, my dad, um, when I was little, I didn't find out about this till I was older.
00:16:52.280He was off-roading with some friends and they came across a place where the people weren't there, but clearly they were probably sacrificing animals there and everything.
00:17:02.960So, and you can't help but think, you know, at what point do they maybe think about moving up to something human?
00:17:11.400Because when you, like, do sacrifices and stuff, like it's supposed to be, you know, something of great value.
00:17:18.160Human life is the most precious thing you could do, especially a child.
00:17:22.520Um, so, and people say, well, that can't, that, that's not right.
00:17:33.580A lot of times, so, but there's, I, there's law enforcement I know who, even to this day, say, they, they saw, you know, satanic stuff.
00:17:42.020Not, maybe not necessarily someone was sacrificed or something like that, but they definitely saw, um, stuff going on within, um, society.
00:17:50.000So, I, and the fact that there are so many accounts going around before the internet, I mean, for all these similarities and stuff and not having the internet, that's, the odds of that are pretty astronomical.
00:18:06.940And I know in the UK, they've had actually, they confirmed cases of, um, satanic ritual abuse or crimes.
00:18:13.620So, and there's been ones we've had here, although when you think about, go by the landing report or whatever, you know, he makes it like super complicated.
00:18:23.460Like, you, you know, in order to, you know, be a satanic crime or murder, you have to hop on one foot, hold your nose and your right ear and jump around.
00:18:31.220Like, it's, it's silly, the requirements, but I think the most important thing people have to look at is intent.
00:18:38.740Um, what, you know, some people say, oh, they were just into like, you know, heavy metal music and they were just dabblers or whatever.
00:18:47.260But I think you really have to look at intent.
00:18:49.340And I do have in my research, you know, kind of the differences between dabblers and, um, serious occultists or Satanists.
00:19:29.360Um, I do know, like, Anton LaVey was quite a showman.
00:19:33.120So he was very much about, you know, uh, playing that part and then adding his satanic darkness to it.
00:19:41.560But I mean, it came out that he ended up plagiarizing the, the, he plagiarized someone else's work when he wrote the satanic Bible.
00:19:48.500So, I mean, that kind of like makes him look like a fraud right there.
00:19:52.640I know, um, Michael Aquino, who started the Temple of Set, broke off from the Church of Satan because he thought it was, he thought it was, he thought it was lame.
00:20:03.320He didn't think they took things serious enough.
00:20:05.060So, um, there could be certain levels.
00:21:04.560But later on years later, I don't know if it was in maybe the late, I can't remember if it was the eighties or nineties.
00:21:11.220They did a film on it and Anton LaVey narrated it.
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00:22:51.780Especially when these are pretty horrific pictures and everything.
00:22:56.400So, and I think the attorney defending a lot of the Long Island serial killer victims even said this appears to be, the actual book appears to be something a lot of Satanists like to have.
00:23:07.660So, for me to think that they're just atheists doesn't seem really accurate, although I think there's many, but like you said, I don't know if there are levels.
00:23:21.680And things could have changed when he died, and his one daughter broke off and went to the Temple of Set, and then she left there eventually and started her own satanic group.
00:23:31.580Now, who is Set in comparison to Satan?
00:23:41.660So, I'll read real quick about like theistic or esoteric Satanism, which the Temple of Set falls in.
00:23:49.480And in 74, Aquino, a member of the hierarchy of the Church of Satan, and Lila St. Clair, a group leader or grata master, broke away from the Church of Satan on philosophical grounds and formed the splinter group Temple of Set.
00:24:00.820In the resulting theistic Satanism, practitioners recognize the existence of one or more supernatural beings.
00:24:07.540The major god viewed as a father or older brother is often called Satan, but some groups identify the leader as a version of the ancient Egyptian god Set.
00:24:17.260Set is a spiritual entity based on the ancient Egyptian notion of expert, translated as self-improvement or self-creation.
00:24:24.920Regardless of the being or beings in charge, none of them resemble the Christian Satan.
00:24:29.680Instead, they are beings which have the same general qualities as a symbolic Satan, such as sexuality, pleasure, strength, and a rebellion against Western moors.
00:24:38.520That's interesting because Satan, as we've come to understand it, is more of a title.
00:25:12.240It's a role that seems like it's an angelic role because in the book of Job, Satan is allowed to communicate directly with God, but the fallen have to go through Enoch to talk with God.
00:26:28.900I mean, that's an element in a lot of things, certainly the Church of Scientology, which you find L. Ron Hubbard is intrinsically tied into all of these, you know, let's just call them occultists before you go too deep into what it is that Crowley's involved in and all that.
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00:26:52.160So, I figured I'd start off talking about what the occult is and then what occult is, and then we'll move into the different types of Satanism.
00:27:01.740So, the occult – although the exact definition of the occult and what constitute as occult practices vary, it typically encompasses esoteric, supernatural, mystical, or magical beliefs, practices, or phenomena.
00:27:17.840Authentic occult topics have traditionally been kept secretive and only available to a select few.
00:27:22.720The idea of keeping knowledge a secret was done because they held the belief that it was too dangerous and powerful in the hands of the uninitiated or unworthy.
00:27:31.480In modern popular usage, the term generally applies to subjects such as Satanism, dark magic, and demonic summoning.
00:27:37.760From an academic viewpoint, it often applies to subjects such as astrology, alchemy, Kabbalah, divination, scrying, contacting or summoning angels and demons, ritual magic, certain historical secret societies or mystery cults, hermeticism, magic runes, talismans, some forms of mysticism, and esoteric religious practices.
00:27:58.900So, kind of all the New Age things kind of fall in there, too, and a lot of people probably wouldn't think the New Age is occult, but it's occult.
00:28:11.900I would imagine that the branches of Satanism, for lack of a better term, could rival or far exceed the branches of Christianity.
00:28:20.780And the reason that I say that is because Christianity is focused around Jesus Christ, whereas any other worship is going to be focused around a body of fallen entities.
00:28:32.000And therefore, you know, if you can make X amount of churches all geared towards Jesus Christ, could you do the same thing for a Baal or an Azazel or, you know, who have you?
00:28:43.960Each one having more than one trying to do it the right way or how they see it to be the right way, and then you expand that across however many, some people think it's 200 that were the count of the fallen.
00:28:56.940But I would imagine that, yeah, there's an incredible amount of variation, and there is an incredible amount of organizations claiming to have figured it out and are doing it right.
00:29:07.460And I think a lot of these satanic organizations or even some of the left-hand path, like occult groups, there's a lot of focus on self and not, you know, not necessarily believing in a deity like God or Satan.
00:29:27.500But it's, you should like elevate yourself to being a God.
00:29:32.100So there's that part of it too in some of these groups is to enlighten yourself and for yourself to become a God.
00:29:44.080Because my understanding of paganism has become pretty, I think I've reduced it to the idea of worshiping the creation instead of the creator.
00:29:56.260So when you get the New Age movement, it's like, well, manifest to the universe, ask the universe, and the universe will provide.
00:30:02.740And it's like, well, who built the universe, dummy?
00:30:05.420And so you get that in a lot of things.
00:30:07.040And I think what's become clear is these entities, they would prefer the veneration for themselves, whatever energy you'll send to them, but they'll settle for you just not aiming your veneration at the one true God.
00:30:35.840And that could be very appealing to a lot of people, especially people that may have had a bad experience with religion.
00:30:42.940I know there's, you know, a lot of people I know who grew up in Catholic families, and they're completely like atheists, like they, and it just seems like that's been a branch that's, you know, turned a lot of people away from God.
00:31:00.440And I think, you know, with all the abuse scandal coming out, you know, that doesn't help it either.
00:31:06.200And if you look at the Catholic religion, and I'm sure a lot of people, Catholic, will hate on me for this, but there's religious syncretism.
00:31:17.120There's pagan elements in Catholicism, and I've done a lot of research on that as well.
00:31:23.560Are you talking about the veneration of like the saints and the angels?
00:32:30.780I mean, this is one, we have some supporters of the show who have been with us for a long time.
00:32:38.100Shout out Emily of Nephilim Murder Crew.
00:32:41.820She's Catholic, and it feels like every once in a while on this show, we're just giving the Catholics a bit of heat.
00:32:48.560But from where I'm sitting, it almost looks like the issue with Catholicism is that there's too many holes in its game that it can be infiltrated one way or another.
00:32:58.140In other words, if your focus is solely Jesus Christ, well, good luck.
00:33:04.500I was going to say, one of the things that did it for me with the Catholic religion, you could say that, is the idea of the veneration of angels.
00:33:15.640And I forget which guest it was, but it's like, they're actively tempting them to fall.
00:33:21.120And I think it was Brian from Demon Slayers, we were talking about Michael's Cathedral and all of these cathedrals that are like lined up in a straight line.
00:33:31.460And they're like some of the most fantastic buildings ever erected.
00:33:34.520One of them you can only get to at a certain time during the day or during the season because the water would be too high.
00:34:30.880But I know that it would still be paganism, right?
00:34:34.520Veneration to especially someone that was human at one point, whatever you are now, a spiritual being.
00:34:40.820It's just the worship of creation over the creator.
00:34:45.320So is that do you think that's a fair estimation?
00:34:48.800It's like Catholicism is almost porous because of that.
00:34:53.180There's too many ways of entry for these spirits to sneak in and subvert.
00:34:58.720Yeah, and I think what I was going to bring up when you guys were talking about like the angels and the saints is I never understood why there was a need to pray to Mary or any of the saints or archangels.
00:35:14.520I get having like, you know, respect for them.
00:35:18.080But why don't you pray directly to God?
00:35:29.860He says veneration is not paganism, specifically saying your veneration and worship are different.
00:35:34.920And I would say that there is a difference between those two.
00:35:37.620But I think it is psychologically a slippery place to be because how do you police yourself in your own mind?
00:35:45.580When does paying respects to an actual historical figure, let's say like the saints who were martyred or the mother of Jesus Christ,
00:35:54.840when does that turn from respect to, let's not even use the word worship, an exchange of energy that is now disproportionate in such a way that it becomes negative.
00:36:10.560When does that, when does that, and I feel like that is a moment that you'd actually have to look back in hindsight, like, damn, I didn't even realize.
00:36:19.100But for the past X amount of years, yeah, I've been treating this person or that person, this saint, or as some sort of, you know, God, lowercase g, God.
00:36:29.320And I just think that that is, that's a hard thing to do.
00:36:34.380Whereas, worshiping Jesus Christ, it's almost like I said it on a show the other day.
00:36:43.320It's almost like God came to terms when he's like, oh, they're retarded.
00:36:49.140I got to make this really easy for them.
00:36:52.520And so the sacrifice of Jesus Christ made it very easy for us.
00:36:57.780And I think that, you know, to incorporate this amalgamation of all these different saints and such, it just becomes slippery.
00:37:07.300Where human beings were fallible, and I think it was made simple for a reason.
00:37:11.000Right. Yeah, no, and when I say that about the Catholic religion, it's not the Catholic people I'm, you know, looking at in a negative light, you know.
00:37:20.760It's just, I think there's some parts of that religion that need to be kind of like revisited and looked at a little bit.
00:37:29.040I still think, you know, all those people, you know, have accepted, you know, Jesus Christ as Lord and Christ as Savior.
00:37:35.740So I'm not attacking them as to, you know, argue whether they believe in him or not or are saved.
00:37:42.200But I think it's more, you know, the Vatican and the religion itself and the practices they've instilled that the people have, you know, generally have accepted, not critically thinking about what they're doing, if that makes sense.
00:37:57.360And at the upper echelons of it, when we talk about the Pope, I mean, it's just riddled with, I don't really see anybody out there sort of defending the Pope in an effective way.
00:38:19.500They're shifting around pedophiles and such.
00:38:21.480You hear horror stories about one pastor or whatever you would call it in the Catholic organization being accused of some form of pedophilia and then just being whisked off to another.
00:38:36.000Everybody is familiar with the one really harrowing story about the guy who gets popped.
00:38:40.500And then they send him to a blind kid's school.
00:38:42.980And then he continues the abuse there instead of, you know, being removed from the church.
00:38:47.640Instead, he's given a flock that's easier to take advantage of.
00:38:51.380So, you know, there's a lot, but every organization has that to some degree.
00:38:57.140Especially organizations where, you know, pedophiles can have access to children.
00:39:02.940Organizations where parents leave their kids and feel they're safe and, you know, bad things won't happen to them, whether that's the Boy Scouts of America, gymnastics.
00:39:16.080Like, you know, swim classes, you name it.
00:39:19.480You know, if there's children congregating, there's someone seeking to take advantage of them.
00:39:23.680And that's just the unfortunate truth of the matter.
00:39:25.740But going back to this topic, I'd love to, unless I have derailed you from something larger,
00:39:33.780go into this conversation about who are, in your estimation, the actual heavy hitters, the actual players that are, I guess, doing their homework and practicing to the book.
00:39:48.400So, that's hard to say, you know, it's not easy to find out who real high up is maybe dabbling in this, this, these practices.
00:40:00.060I am having Dr. Colin Ross on my show later this month, and he is an expert in DID, the disassociated identity disorder, and the CIA mind control and how that has played into SRA.
00:40:15.860But, you know, when I heard him speak on other shows, and I agree with him, he talks about, you know, Epstein Island, and that blue and white temple.
00:40:27.000And how that clearly had, had a specific purpose, even though they tried to say it was for music lessons, and there was, but there was, like, all these cots lined up in there and everything.
00:40:38.860Is that what they said, music lessons?
00:40:40.520And I heard, I've also heard that, I don't know if this is true or not, but there was no entry from the outside that it was somewhere, like, you know, probably a tunnel.
00:40:52.400Don't quote me on that, but I've heard people.
00:40:54.560They had subterranean levels, they were filled in with concrete, and on the side of the island, there was a set of double doors that were, like, you know, if you had an old house and you had a basement, and you'd go to those big steel double doors, open them up, and you'd go down that way.
00:41:06.680That was what was on the side of the island.
00:41:10.620And I'm glad we're in this, by the way, because this is a topic that I beat to death all the time, but with no actual information.
00:41:16.520Just this idea that, well, sure, trafficking was happening, but, like, why all this woo-woo spiritual stuff?
00:41:25.000And it's like, have you looked at the island?
00:41:28.300So, yeah, there was a subterranean level.
00:41:30.480Yeah, and there was, I don't know what it was, but they tried to say it was a tennis court, and they tried to compare it, like, on, like, Google Maps and stuff, and it looked, like, almost like it was warped or something.
00:41:41.380But it had these steep embankment walls, and I don't know what that was about.
00:41:46.380And then if you look at his Zorro ranch, he had that weird geometric shape, and some people were like, well, it could have been a helicopter landing pad, but that was shown that that wasn't accurate.
00:41:59.040So I feel like there's hints of things we see from the higher-ups, like Epstein, that could be indicative of occult practices.
00:42:10.140I believe there was even a large golden owl of Minerva.
00:42:13.320Yes, they said it got knocked off by a storm or something, yeah.
00:42:55.880But as soon as you got to the part where, like, well, what about the kids in the Greek-themed robes?
00:43:02.600What about the reports of them finding bones of children off the coast of Little St. James?
00:43:07.800That was one of the things that came to the light right after he was arrested for the second time.
00:43:13.100And before he killed himself, there was a lot of really interesting conversation being had on the internet about pictures emerging of him still being on the island.
00:43:22.460So you can decide for yourself whether or not the guy that died in prison was even him at all.
00:43:37.880And one of those things were the bones of children.
00:43:39.940So, yeah, I mean, I don't know what it is about human beings.
00:43:43.700We're so hesitant to accept this idea, even though it's been happening since the dawn of time, to the same gods, in the same ritualistic fashion, and by the elites.
00:44:33.100And they know what we're prone to do and what we're not.
00:44:37.200So, I think they just laid it out perfectly and got us to a point where, even though this thing's been happening since all of our time here on this planet as a species,
00:44:45.920now all of a sudden, on the tail end of things, we don't believe it anymore.
00:45:33.320Now, I'm going to start talking about the different types of Satanism.
00:45:35.880So, I'm going to first touch on reactive Satanism, and it's also known as adolescent Satanism.
00:45:41.780And it refers to a group of individuals who adopt the stories of mainstream religion, but invert its value.
00:45:48.360Thus, Satan is still evil as defined by Christianity, but one to be worshipped rather than shunned or feared.
00:45:53.700Think 1980s, adolescents inverting Christianity with Gnostic elements inspired by black metal, Christian scare propaganda, role-playing games, and horror imagery, and engaging in petty crimes.
00:46:05.960So, this was kind of like, you know, the teens back in the 80s, kind of, you know, being, having that goth look and into the things that were considered satanic, like Dungeons and Dragons was really demonized, which was a board role-playing game.
00:46:23.700And it became such a big thing, and, you know, what's a kid going to do when you say, don't do that, that's wrong, that's bad, I'm going to keep doing it.
00:46:33.860So, that kind of was used in the satanic panic, too, is, you know, keep your kids away from this stuff.
00:46:42.920You know, don't let them listen to heavy metal, don't let them play Dungeons and Dragons, things like that.
00:46:49.560So, that kind of touches on, like, the reactive satanism aspect of things.
00:46:54.940So, the next is rationalistic satanism, and this is the highly secularized and atheistic type of satanism found in the 1960s by American author and occultist Anton Slandor LeVay.
00:47:05.420He created the Satanic Bible and formed the Church of Satan, the most well-known satanic organization.
00:47:13.980According to LeVay, neither God nor Satan are actual beings.
00:47:17.600The only God is, in LeVay's satanism, is the satanist himself.
00:47:23.140Instead, Satan is a symbol of representing qualities embraced by the satanist.
00:47:27.240Satanism defined by LeVay is a celebration of the self, and it encourages people to seek their own truths, indulge in desires without fear of social taboos and the perfect self.
00:47:36.780So, that kind of touches on that atheistic satanism I was talking about.
00:47:43.500The temple, or the satanic temple, would kind of fall in that, too.
00:47:48.000Although, I have some serious questions about the satanic temple that I think they are not quite atheistic, but they're not admitting that either.
00:47:56.000It sounds a lot like libertarianism, or the Libertarian Party.
00:48:02.260Unfortunately, I mean, I came up in the Libertarian Party, and I think it's like, they have some good ideas, but, yeah, in its essence, it's filled with autism and Satanism, in my opinion.
00:48:12.620Top, I don't know if, you know, you've seen this, right, where something's happening, Donald Trump Jr. is agreeing to meet up with Dave Smith, and there's this, go ahead.
00:48:24.160He's not agreeing to, but Dave Smith is, like, basically leveraging his Twitter following and his, you know, Joe Rogan appearances to influence cabinet picks for Donald Trump, the president.
00:48:37.140But, do you feel at all, like, we've had this conversation before about libertarianism, and this idea of, like, the torch, for example, being their logo, right?
00:48:52.920Yeah, I'm so estranged from it now, whereas, like, people that are in the party, like, so I know Dave Smith, and, you know, he's, like, probably one of the biggest libertarians that you can get, and his co-host, we just spoke with, Robbie the Fire, and I re-listened to that.
00:49:06.500And I was, like, where did this conversation go wrong?
00:49:09.240And the conversation went wrong when I started to, you know, at first I was, like, I don't think people that voted for Kamala Harris should be able to vote again, and I'm fucking serious about that, because it was a fairly simple IQ test.
00:49:27.000And right there, it was kind of, like, then I started to go into the spiritual aspect of, like, well, what happens to a nation when you just kill babies?
00:50:03.040And I was, like, well, that was really gay of you.
00:50:05.140But it seems like every time I have an interaction with a libertarian, it kind of always goes sideways once I start talking about these spiritual things,
00:50:13.900which now I'm starting to think maybe they're more aware of than I gave them credit for.
00:50:20.800Right. And I start to think about the idea of even liberty and to liberate yourself from something in the way that these fallen wanted liberation from God, right?
00:50:34.880It's a, that's what libertarianism is.
00:50:36.460It's like radical individualism to a point of mental retardation.
00:50:39.640I feel like it would resonate more with Luciferianism, at least if you're talking about libertarian, which was the next, next type I was going to talk about.
00:50:49.020But, you know, there is that liberation like that, you know, we lived under an oppressive God.
00:50:54.540And, you know, the serpents, you know, was the liberator very much the same way Prometheus was the liberator and giving fire.
00:51:04.920You have the morning star or Prometheus bringing fire.
00:51:10.220Like a lot of these things, um, because sometimes people look at the statue of, yes, dude, the, the, the don't tread on me flag being a serpent.
00:51:20.260When Jesus Christ gave us the authority to tread on serpents is like on its face.
00:51:30.920I've been feeling, I said that a long time ago.
00:51:32.860I was, I just, I was calling them, I was like, this is Satanism.
00:51:35.500I didn't have, I mean, Luciferianism, I suppose is a better word, which you're going to explain to us why later.
00:51:39.920But I've got an extreme amount of pushback for that.
00:51:42.480Especially, you know, Clint is like, what the hell are you talking?
00:51:44.380There's a lot of good people in this party because the ideas, especially during the time of COVID, were battling back against what was happening to us, which was clearly wrong.
00:51:53.920But I think, you know, whittled down to its logical conclusion, you get a gay dude and a cop running for office.
00:52:01.820And that's exactly what libertarianism always is and always going to end up being.
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00:53:27.720We've had Dave Smith on the show where we kind of pressed him on it and we're like, where are you leading these young men?
00:53:32.940You know, it's like, I understand the ideas of liberty and a lot of them are good, but ultimately you're rejecting God.
00:53:38.920So you're pushing these people to where?
00:53:42.120And there was not really an adequate answer, I don't think.
00:55:37.560And I want to say real quick on the topic of abortion.
00:55:40.120It's very interesting that now, for the first time, I would imagine, I've not done enough research.
00:55:47.840Maybe there was some time you could point to in human history where this was happening.
00:55:52.440But I don't think that there was one where women were doing it out of inconvenience and freeing themselves up from the burden of familyhood and motherhood.
00:56:08.360Any historical context that you look back to for women willingly killing their children was a sacrificial context.
00:56:15.860And now, all of a sudden, it's not sacrificial.
00:56:19.940Now we're just doing it for convenience.
00:56:22.000Because the fact of the matter is, the numbers will show you that the vast majority of abortions happen because the individual is just not ready yet.
00:56:29.920Whether it's financial or a mental space.
00:56:46.360This is like modern day, well, modern day Satanism, kind of what we're talking about here, where it's kind of the general aim of it is loss in the sauce.
00:56:54.820But what they're doing is still contributing to the main factor of what they want.
00:57:00.340So, no, I don't think people that are, like, I don't know, Luis J. Gomez.
00:57:17.820What does this go towards in the end of the day?
00:57:20.760And, yeah, it's, it's, like, like, God is, is actually concerned with you refining what you're doing and having a true aim, right?
00:57:31.840It's interesting, like, one of the things that Jordan Peterson gave us before he died and was replaced by somebody else was this idea that sin is an archery term.
00:57:39.560I thought that was great because it means to miss the mark.
00:58:32.760They stress the balance of light and dark and that each depends upon the other.
00:58:36.820While Satanism revels in physical existence and Christianity focuses more on spirituality, Luciferians see their religion as one that seeks a balance of both.
00:58:46.880The human existence is an intersection of the two.
00:58:49.560So we kind of went over how they looked at Satan as being the liberator in the Garden of Eden, and we were living under oppressive God.
00:59:00.240And I could see, like, people, this being an attractive concept to people, especially with today, you know, all this self-empowerment and everything.
00:59:11.780So, and I feel like a lot of people are going to flock more to these types of, like, religions or ideologies, because that's what, like, society is pushing today.
00:59:20.280Like, you know, about, you know, it's all about yourself.
00:59:23.060Like, and again, that becoming a God and empowering yourself.
00:59:28.500So, but yeah, that's Luciferianism, and it's very much similar to the story of Prometheus.
01:00:03.680You're dedicating time and resources in your visage, the way that you look and your dressing and, you know, the things that you're spending your time on to something that you don't even believe in.
01:00:13.300Which I think is one of the worst things that you could do as a human being with the precious little time that we have here.
01:01:56.380Well, there's another one that's, like, you know, I don't remember what the expression is.
01:02:03.300But it just tells, especially women, to prioritize themselves.
01:02:07.900And we've really gotten into this place where it's, like, one of the things that you see highlighted really often on, like, TikTok and stuff.
01:02:13.820And it's, like, anecdotal stories from one woman's life.
01:02:18.880By the way, as she, like, she's in a beautiful kitchen.
01:02:21.540She's got, like, a nice island and, you know, all the cookware you could ever want.
01:02:25.440You could tell her house is really nice.
01:02:27.220And she's sitting there telling you a heart, like, kind of a harrowing story about the things that her husband doesn't do and the things that her kids don't do.
01:02:34.620And she's in this beautiful place, and she's got, you know, in comparison to much of the world, a beautiful life.
01:02:39.600But, you know, as far as people who live well in America, we're in the 1% of the world.
01:02:45.120And she's just going off about how bad she's got it.
01:02:48.900And these kind of videos, they plague the Internet.
01:02:52.260And the ending wrap-up is always, like, do what you have to do to prioritize you because nobody else is going to do it.
01:03:00.580You had Michelle Obama a couple years ago, probably even pre-Trump.
01:04:10.200That is, like, there's so many ways in which these things, just like the symbols of the Libertarian Party and the principles, are, like, this weird mirror of Luciferianism.
01:04:22.840Is the same way that this ideology that's being spread amongst women is the same thing as, it's, like, repeating the fall.
01:06:04.140And that's a narrative that's emerged recently where Josie the Redhead Libertarian crushed at dispelling that one, which is, show me an example where a parasite in nature is of the same species as the host.
01:06:34.960But, yeah, so you can tell so many of the big narratives that are running right now.
01:06:41.180As much as people don't like to hear it, they're like, they're just rebranding of satanic principles or luciferian principles, whatever you want to call it.
01:07:05.760But it's also known as the Process Church, and it's a religious group established in London of the 1960s by two people who were ejected from the Church of Scientology.
01:07:15.520Together, Mary Ann McLean and Robert Dick Gerson developed their own practices based on a pantheon of four gods known as the great gods of the universe.
01:07:25.160The four are Jehovah, Lucifer, Satan, and Christ, and none are evil.
01:07:29.240Instead, each exemplifies different patterns of human existence.
01:07:33.180Each member selects one or two of the four that is closest to their own personality.
01:08:11.840We've got to get rid of that terminology because it's old age shit.
01:08:14.120But yeah, isn't it funny how that works?
01:08:16.300It's like keep saying new age like this just came about like, no, this is really old practice.
01:08:19.580But this idea that our ideas of good and bad are false.
01:08:26.460None of these actors are good and bad.
01:08:28.220And they are putting us through a sort of trial.
01:08:31.020And I think there is a trial, but there's also room in the conversation for when somebody screws up, you know, and I think that's what happened in the garden was Satan was there to to be the adversary, to be the accuser or to be the tempter, but took it too far and ended up screwing things up.
01:08:50.180Which is why he had his, if you talk to Justin Brown, his priestly robes stripped of him and he was cast out.
01:08:56.080Oh, that's a great, yeah, that's a great theory, story.
01:08:59.540Yeah, but yeah, the whole David Berkowitz, son of Sam, Mori Terry investigated it and there seemed to be a cult in the area and that was an offshoot of perhaps the process church.
01:09:13.720I think they were calling it the children or something.
01:09:17.140But if you watch that, you'll see, if you watch that documentary, you'll see them talk about it as well as they were finding a bunch of German shepherds that were carcasses as they appear to be sacrificed.
01:09:32.460Let me get a sip of water here for a second.
01:09:36.180That's why we're in this weird place where for the longest time we stopped animal sacrifice and now people are incredibly worried about the nature of whatever's going to happen with the red heifers.
01:09:48.540Because isn't the idea that you use the ashes to sanctify the tools to build the temple, but then in the temple there are recurring animal sacrifices.
01:09:58.140Yeah, what's interesting about that is it seems like they quashed that story real quick because Hamas came out and pretty much said they were very upset about that and it appeared to be one of the reasons they chose to attack.
01:10:14.560So, and I almost wonder if perhaps it's happened that like, you know, we wouldn't, we don't know.
01:10:20.800But that side, I suspect that it's already happened and people don't even really, you know, everybody knows the,
01:10:31.300A lot of people don't remember that they addressed it and said that in part it was due to the red heifers.
01:10:39.480And I think there was an article written, one of the last things that I saw about the red heifers was it was creating kind of an uproar.
01:10:48.860People were getting upset that this was going to happen.
01:10:50.440And so Israel realizing that this could end up turning into something significant called a stop for all press surrounding the event.
01:11:00.560But does that mean that these rabbinic Jews who were pumped to have gotten their hands on a red heifer or more than one,
01:11:08.100but I think it last we knew was boiled down to three that were still viable.
01:11:14.280When you watch this story unfold, it was very clear because they said it outright that these people had been waiting their entire lives.
01:11:21.360Generations had passed, never seeing the fulfillment of this prophecy.
01:11:24.680And so for the rabbinic Jews that were involved with this process, this was, you know, the height of their lives is the way that it was made to sound.
01:11:44.500And I remember when I first heard about, you know, it was actually before, it was a couple of years ago when I first heard about the red heifer.
01:11:51.800And I was like, okay, I see the numbers.
01:11:54.480I'm like, but where does it say, you know, it has to be done for the third temple?
01:11:58.760And that's when I found out it's actually the Talmud that says it has to be done for the third temple.
01:12:04.780And it was a ritual to cleanse people who were in contact with any dead bodies.
01:12:12.860And then my other question is, so these red heifers, they're supposedly like, you know, genetically modified.
01:12:20.440So would it even work if they have like something that's not pure and kind of man created or dabbled?
01:14:07.720So they believe that the cosmic order that was created by God is a fabrication.
01:14:12.760And beyond that, reality is an endless and formless chaos.
01:14:16.040Some of its practitioners, such as Vexier21B, and he's, like, changed his name, like, so many times I can't even keep track and see if it is the right guy.
01:14:26.320Because him and this John Novite of the black metal band dissection are nihilists who would prefer that the world should return to its normal state of chaos.
01:15:15.060And I know, like, they ended up killing a gay guy, and they did time.
01:15:20.320And the one, when he came out, eventually he ended up committing suicide.
01:15:25.020But a lot of these anti-cosmic Satanists, like, they also, like, were responsible for, like, burning the churches over in, like, I think it was, like, Norway or something like that.
01:15:36.280But, yeah, they have a very much black metal presence to them.
01:15:40.680And so, yeah, that, you know, just death and destruction and nihilism is pretty much their theme.
01:15:49.840So the next one, and then I have a little tangent to share with you guys on this one that I think you'll find interesting.
01:15:59.920And it's basically the worship of demons, but some sects see each demon as separate force or energy that can be used to aid in a practitioner's rituals or magic.
01:16:09.880The book entitled Modern Demonolatry by S. Conley lists well over 200 demons.
01:16:15.060Which, that's kind of weird, because wasn't it 200 angels, 200 watchers?
01:16:20.520From a multitude of different religions, ancient and modern, adherents choose to worship demons that mirror their own attributes or ones with whom they share a connection.
01:16:30.860So, when I first read this one, I thought that almost reminds me of, like, the Lesser Kia of Solomon or the Goetia.
01:16:40.240So, which was wrote in the mid-17th century, based off the pseudographical text of, Testament of Solomon.
01:16:50.520But what's interesting is I was looking for something, I think it was on Amazon, that had to do, like, with, like, Nephilim related.
01:16:58.940And this came out, I think it was October 7th.
01:17:03.680It is a grimoire to contact Nephilim entities.
01:17:09.760And it's called Libra Nephilim, a grimoire of fallen angels by Freider Barabbas, which was the prisoner that was released between him and Jesus.
01:17:27.040But, um, so, this book, it says, um, the wisdom of the Nephilim, those who have been exiled by God and who taught ancient man the ways of civilization, awaits you within the pages of Freider Barabbas' guidebook and grimoire, Libra Nephilim.
01:17:42.000While the grimoire traditions have done much to enlighten the occult community about the various banned books of magic and secret powers, only Libra Nephilim works for the first of the angels to fall.
01:17:55.340Yet these are spirits that loved humanity, mated with mortal women, and gave birth to a new age of magic so long ago.
01:18:01.780Yet they were omitted from that medieval magical lore.
01:18:04.760Until now, Libra Nephilim is a starting place where these renowned spirits are again engaged as they once were to the magicians of the most ancient times.
01:18:32.380That's really interesting, though, because a lot of people within this Christian community, uh, they get upset with us, for example, because they believe that when it comes to the Nephilim, we're really just talking about, like, the line of Seth or something like that.
01:18:44.280And that, uh, this idea that angels ever mated with human beings, uh, and birthed offspring was incorrect.
01:18:51.320And so, you know, this could be the case.
01:18:55.780It's, you know, I'm not saying that I'm a, an authority on the truth or anything like that, but I do find it fascinating how this theme will pop up in, in not only so many different cultures, but, uh, so many texts that I guess you would say the enemy uses.
01:19:10.420Some of these, uh, I'm looking at the cover of this book and some of these symbols came up.
01:19:15.380The one in the top right came up in, uh, the, the Mormon.
01:19:21.680I'd like to see the, the cover of this book.
01:19:23.440Yeah, because as soon as she started talking about this, um, Nix, you nailed it right with this Solomonistic magic, this binding of demons and these seals in order to have them do your bidding.
01:19:51.140She was explaining to us if they're encircled, that means that, uh, they're keeping them inside of a, like contained, but they still want to talk with it.
01:19:59.780If it's not contained, that means that they're, none of these are contained.
01:21:00.280It's just whether or not you, you argue the minutiae of the translation.
01:21:04.900Um, but what good is their playbook if it's built off of lies?
01:21:10.620You know, I, I think that there's certainly deception within it, but there's, when it lines up with scripture, there's something there.
01:21:17.880Right. And I mean, I don't know about you guys, but ever since, like, I read, like, the book of Enoch, the rest of the Bible made so much more sense.
01:22:04.020This guy's allowed to be on Amazon, but I got my racist t-shirts pulled down.
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01:24:22.120You know, where if Lucifer held the title of Satan, um, Azazel held it for another grip.
01:24:28.020I wonder, too, when it comes to these bigger entities like Baal and Moloch, if they, uh, if they also have passed that title around back and forth.
01:24:35.340Like, there was a, um, who were we talking to, Top, where they were telling us a story about sort of this, uh, psychonaut, right?
01:24:43.820This guy back in the day when the MKUltra LSD experiments were really happening, um, to a larger scale.
01:24:50.960And there was a guy that was doing it willingly.
01:24:53.780He wasn't, like, a John that was drugged and kidnapped or anything like that.
01:24:59.760I think it was Dyer who was talking about this.
01:25:01.580And this guy, uh, through prolonged LSD use, would reliably commune with the same entity every time he went and get a little bit more information, a little bit more information every visit.
01:25:12.540Eventually, this thing disclosed to him that it was Moloch and would soon be the king of this realm.
01:25:32.680Do you guys feel, and I, I do anyways, like, with, like, DMT or Hiawaska, do you think when people are on that, it thins the veil for them to communicate with these other entities?
01:25:47.280Because, I mean, it's interesting how similar, like, like with DMT, they have the machine elves and everyone's seeing kind of the same thing.
01:25:53.720Yeah, I think that, I think DMT brings you to, uh, another dimension.
01:25:58.540Um, that is, I think it's, uh, people seem to have similar experiences on DMT.
01:26:06.120So, I don't know if that's as local, but I know that Ayahuasca is super local.
01:26:10.140That's, like, basically just pulling a veil back.
01:26:12.240So, the people who are in that same spot are experiencing the same things, and some of my friends, they go and they do Ayahuasca trips in the same place, and they've mentioned, you know, obviously having the same experiences, but one of the guys just, he saw, uh, the leopard woman.
01:26:26.800It's a woman with a leopard head, and it's like, no big deal.
01:26:35.640It's not, it's not normal, but yeah, they're, they're just peeking into the spiritual realm, but they're doing it, they think that they're getting some kind of enlightenment.
01:26:42.720They're definitely taking a break from the real world, but, uh, I think it's important where you're at doing this, you know?
01:26:50.080And I think that that's a lot of the problem, too, is when you are from a part of the world that is, your spirituality is absent, and then you go and you have a profound experience, your feeling of amazement
01:27:03.700is what informs you to then adhere to this thing, which I think is the big letdown that the West has subjected us to.
01:27:13.260It's like, we're so detached from spirituality, but it's a very real thing, and you will have a spiritual experience and have no one to turn to, and this will change your paradigm, and you'll think that this thing is the truth.
01:27:26.460It's like, no, this thing is an aspect of the realm that we inhabit, and there's a much greater truth, but because you weren't armed with spiritual discernment, you just fell for this first thing that came along.
01:27:37.200So now you're worshiping a jaguar-headed lady.
01:27:39.060So when it comes to DMT, it's like, I think that these entities, they're very real.
01:27:44.740That's one of the things that Christianity has really dropped.
01:27:57.760If Christianity maybe did a better job of fleshing this out for people, then people wouldn't have these experiences and get blown away by how profound they are and end up worshiping some lowercase g god.
01:28:10.040Or they wouldn't continuously go to a realm, subject themselves to machine elves or jesters that seemingly do nothing but insult them and tell them that they're crap and tell them that they're dumb.
01:28:22.020And it's like these things are, like, nagging you.
01:28:49.540And I think, you know, the church is not talking more about spiritual warfare, you know, allows people or, you know, people don't think about these consequences.
01:29:03.820I think if we talk more about spiritual warfare, people wouldn't, would think, you know, before they did something like a drug like that, especially like, like Top said, depending on where you're doing it out and who's surrounding you.
01:29:34.700I wouldn't suggest it because I'm not an expert on how to deal with the spiritual realm, which you are entering into if you do these things.
01:29:41.840And I don't know how smart you are in that aspect as well.
01:29:45.360Probably not that smart because you're listening to the show.
01:30:09.760We'll come on and tell you that, though, if you want to invite us.
01:30:12.160So I have three more left to cover of the types of Satanism.
01:30:17.140So the next one is Transcendental Satanism.
01:30:19.900And it's a sect created by Matt, the Lord Zane, an adult video director whose brand of Satanism came to him in a dream after taking the drug LSD.
01:30:29.720Why does all this stuff sound very, very Jewish?
01:30:33.280Like, there's been a lot of Jewish names.
01:30:35.520Now you're talking about adult entertainment.
01:30:40.180Transcendental Satanists seek a form of spiritual evolution with the end goal of each individual reunification with his or her inner satanic aspect.
01:30:48.480Followers feel that the satanic aspect in life is a hidden part of the self that is separate from the conscious, and believers can find their way to self by following an individually determined path.
01:31:00.060That's an interesting concept, because I do believe that some of these, it's hard to unpack the terminology aspect of the self.
01:31:15.460It almost suggests it's just part of you, which means it's not dangerous and yada yada.
01:31:20.640However, I've had my own experiences, and I recognize that an entity that I saw was some sort of aspect of self, but externalized at the same time.
01:31:37.060It existed not independent of me, because I think I gave it the energy that it needed to take a more physical form.
01:31:46.880Maybe, but even that sounds reductive, because these are words and terminologies that are much more nuanced and loaded than they appear on their face.
01:31:58.500So when you hear egregore, or you hear aspect of self, that almost sounds like it is a product of my mind, and therefore is not dangerous.
01:32:10.180And even if you were to go a step further and say it is dangerous because it leads to depression and anxiety and people commit suicide because of their interactions with these things, it's so much more than that.
01:32:23.820It is an ancient adversarial parasitic entity that is given form from your energy and so cannot really exist independent of you, but its nature is biblical.
01:32:41.720And that is the thing that seems to go, it's an egregore, it's a thought form, it's an aspect of self, and therefore you're in control.
01:32:54.340Like, no, you're not actually in control of it.
01:32:55.800Like, it's wanting to control you, and you can stop giving it permission, and you can put up a wall, and you can block it out, and you can even cast it out.
01:33:03.920But it is not just, I can think of a bear with a blonde wig on, and that doesn't mean anything.
01:33:24.620Like, if you can bring them to a low place, then it can then behave in a parasitical way to them.
01:33:30.280And also, it has a lot to do with the, you know, the eternal nature of your soul.
01:33:36.100So, I just, those ideas, it's like mankind trying to take something and understand, you know how so many ways we'll dismiss a biblical precedent, and then later prove it with science?
01:33:51.120And then it's like, not only have we proven that the Bible was right, but now, since we use science to do it, we've actually restricted our understanding of it to, like, the nuts and bolts that we can understand.
01:34:35.920Tani Johnson claims a pre-sanskirt history of the cult and beliefs that individuals must follow their own chakras to find their inner force.
01:34:44.400That inner force exists in everyone, and it is trying to evolve according to each individual's environment.
01:34:51.440The Reds is an explicit reference to socialism.
01:34:54.300Many Satanic Reds espouse the rights of workers to throw off their chains.
01:34:59.860So, again, you have that whole, like, kind of liberation element to it.
01:35:04.840And then it's all, again, you know, your inner self.
01:35:08.160And it's all that same vocabulary, like you were saying, David.
01:35:48.500The cults of Cthulhu are a small group which have arisen with the same name but have radically different goals.
01:35:54.220Some believe that the fictional creature was real and will eventually usher in an era of chaos and inhabited violence, wiping out humanity in the process.
01:36:03.540Others simply subscribe to the philosophy of Cthulhu, the philosophy of cosmic indifference, that the universe is meaningless and mechanical system that is indifferent to the existence of human beings.
01:36:15.400Other members of the cult are not Satanists at all but use the cult to celebrate Lovecraft's enjoinity.
01:37:08.380Vicki Joy Anderson actually was on the show recently and we were going to talk about H.P. Lovecraft in this book, you know, about Cthulhu.
01:37:20.080But essentially describing transhumanism, this idea of ascending our mortal coil and augmenting ourselves somehow in order to have everlasting life without the aid of Jesus Christ.
01:37:46.660Because there's so much bizarre overlap, you know, in what he was writing and then from one cult to another or some cryptid sighting or something like that, that I'm like, this guy, he seemed keyed into something.
01:38:00.300And I think I did research a while back on H.R. Geiger who developed the alien creation and I was thinking the same thing about him that he, I'm like, he's got to be channeling something.
01:38:14.580And I watched a documentary and some of the people that worked for him also said, we feel like he was channeling something.
01:38:25.060I mean, just the detail, like, in Lovecraft's writings or the detail in Geiger's work, like, they're just so, they seem more than the actual imagination can come up with themselves.
01:38:45.840I almost wonder sometimes if our imagination functions at all like what we imagine it functionally.
01:38:50.140Because a lot of people's ideas, they seem to come from somewhere and they used to be a lot more comfortable with the idea of the muses back in the day that these were external forces that were giving you these ideas.
01:39:00.740I, the other day I was doing a stream and somebody named Robin popped up and they were a new listener and they dropped into my lap a book called Angelology.
01:39:13.960And what was significant about this book was that it was about an uprising of Nephilim and fallen angels that were subterranean.
01:39:24.440And there were three major hubs where they were located.
01:39:28.360One of them was Siberia, the other one was China, and the third one was Indiana, which is very interesting to us because we've been following this weird thing happening in Indiana.
01:39:36.840It seems like there's ball just like kind of, you know, chilling underground in Indiana.
01:39:44.380So when she said this, I was like, oh crap, I got to check this book out.
01:39:49.440Unfortunately, I haven't gotten through it because the language, I'm only on like chapter two and I have to keep putting it down because it's, a lot of these books are pitched as fiction.
01:39:57.580And, you know, for a bunch of reasons that are pretty valid as far as like, you don't want to claim that this is real, you'll become a lot laughing stock.
01:40:08.780But for those in the know, they'll understand when they read it and you could just market it as fiction.
01:40:13.360And the language was just like, I mean, it's like metaphor after metaphor after metaphor to explain every single situation that's happening.
01:40:20.160But I'm just waiting to get to this point because, yeah, this was marketed as fiction.
01:40:28.140Where did you get this idea that there are Nephilim and fallen angels under the ground in Indiana?
01:40:33.960Because I suspect that, and mine's not from my own ideas, it's from testimony of people who live in the era who have been having these experiences and claim to be seeing a throne room underground.
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01:43:14.840And like, maybe that's how some people really do categorize these things.
01:43:23.480I think there's a lot of people that probably don't even realize they're being tuned into something that is a lot more real than even they're giving credit for, despite the fact that they're making money off of it or it's what their name is associated with it.
01:43:33.840I would put C.S. Lewis and Tolkien in that same category, too, with the worlds they created.
01:43:44.160I think there's a lot of people who write things that are nonfiction, but they categorize it as fiction because otherwise it wouldn't get published.
01:44:07.860And the way that she got the ideas because the sterilized version of the story is like, oh, she was homeless and she was on the train while these ideas were coming to her and she was writing them.
01:44:21.020But there's something else that goes a little bit darker.
01:44:24.460And I want to say it has something to do with channeling spirits.