08: The Book of Genesis w⧸ Ed Mabrie - God's Justice
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Ed Mabry is back to discuss the Book of Genesis and how it relates to our daily lives. He also gives us some biblical perspective on how we should be preparing for the end of the world and how we need to be ready to rise up.
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The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely normal.
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They controlling us now, and no one's talking about how they made us not to be slaves.
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And everybody's just walking around, heading to clouds, and won't awaken to a dead in the grave.
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But unless you may, we need to be ready to raise up.
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Only some are aware that the government releasing poison in their hands.
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.
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That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.
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And Fridays are for the Lord, so we are back once again with Ed Mabry for our Book of Genesis discussion.
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Time is moving fast, and it is giving me anxiety.
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So hopefully we can alleviate some of that with a little bit of biblical talk today.
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It's been about a month since the last time we talked to you.
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I was excited to hop in and shoot the shit with you a little bit before we started rolling the cameras.
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But main website, my legacy site is faithbyreason.net.
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And how does Jehovah relate to the good angels and to the bad angels and to us and how do we interact with them?
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Because that's really 80% of the Bible right there.
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So I think the reason people are missing out on a lot of what the Bible means and understanding is because they're looking at it from the physical terrestrial standpoint and not the spiritual stuff.
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I know that we're going to discuss some of the questions that people have been asking.
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You were talking about that before the show started, but I'm always excited to talk to you because I've stressed ad nauseum that I'm a new Christian.
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So I have a lot of questions and I look forward to these conversations because I could ask you all kinds of questions, even the ones that I think might sound dumb.
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But the conversation that we were having before we started rolling the cameras was about this event that took place where these two Jews were killed inside the Holocaust Museum.
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And we lightly talked about that yesterday on Dangerous, our other show with Clint Russell.
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But what ended up happening was I found out just before this show started that those Jews were actually Messianic Jews.
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And that was an interesting revelation to me because I have relatives who are Messianic Jews.
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And the way that they described it to me was that Messianic Jews are Christians.
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They believe in the coming of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
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They believe in the resurrection and all of that.
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And their main focus is preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ to the Jews because they don't believe.
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And so in that way, I made a tweet before we started.
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I said, Messianic Jews, in my opinion, are Christians.
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I forget who the article was by, but I just saw that only briefly before this show started.
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Did you say that one that was going to propose?
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I heard that one of them had a ring in their pocket.
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So you have two Messianic Jews, which are just Christians.
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And one's going to propose to the other in front of the Holocaust Museum down the street from an FBI building.
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So on Dangerous, I was talking about the optics.
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I can't help but look at everything through a conspiratorial lens.
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And I said the optics of these two Jews who were going to propose to each other in the Holocaust Museum getting killed is great if you are, let's say, the government of Israel who's looking for any reason to maybe get involved in a skirmish or a war of some sort or proclaim anti-Semitism at the very least.
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And I acknowledge that if they are Messianic Jews, which, like I said, I do believe they're Christian, and I think there's something to be said about your main focal point being preaching the gospel to the Jews.
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Them being the victims here does change the optics, and I'm not so sure how I feel about that now.
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But I brought that up to you, and you had some interesting things to say.
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And so I just wanted to kind of bounce that off of you a little bit, Ed.
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And that does seem to be their main focal point.
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It was interesting because I heard about – I don't do a deep dive into politics.
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I mean, I'm trying to make sure I'm aware of what's going on, but that's not really my lane.
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But I didn't know about the Messianic Jewish aspect of it.
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And Messianic Jews – and I know you were saying, top, that it sounds a little confusing, and I get that.
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But basically what it means is that these are Jews who believe that Jesus was the Messiah.
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They believe that the Messiah has already come, which is, again, is what the first century Jews believed.
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So when we're talking before, Raven, I said for the first 10 years of Christianity, the disciples were only proselytizing, evangelizing other Jews.
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I mean, Paul writes himself that the gospel is first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.
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And, you know, that's just – those are just the facts.
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I mean, when the nation of Israel, when God created this nation from the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, he says that you are basically – you're my ambassadors.
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But their purpose was, you know, I give you my law.
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Deuteronomy chapter 28 says if you obey my law, I'm going to prosper you greatly.
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You're just going to have all this stuff, just like riches.
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And then other nations would say, hey, look at those Hebrews over there.
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Well, we get it because we serve our God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
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Well, you become like – you become one of us.
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And that's how they were supposed to proselytize the world.
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The problem is, as you read through the Old Testament, they kept screwing up.
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They kept – instead of worshiping their God and bringing other people in to worship the God of the Bible, Jehovah, Yahweh, they did the opposite.
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They said, we're going to worship the gods of all the other tribes, of all the other nations.
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And God said, you guys, if you keep doing this, I can't – you can't be my ambassadors because you're setting a bad example.
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I'm going to eventually kick you out of your land, which is, of course, what happened with Babylon and whatnot.
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Anyway, the point is that's what they were supposed to do.
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So when Jesus came and, you know, died, resurrected, came back and went and ascended, he said, you know, preach the gospel to all the nations.
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And so that's – but they only preached the gospel to one nation for 10 years.
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They only preached it to the Jews, which, you know, they were patriots.
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And so – and it wasn't until 10 years later where God told Peter, like, look, you need to preach this to the Gentiles as well.
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The point is that the original Christians for 10 years were only Jewish people.
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So a Messianic Jew is a Jewish person who believes that their Messiah is Jesus.
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And a non-Messianic Jew or just run-of-the-mill Garden Variety is a Jew who is still waiting for their Messiah.
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And so it's interesting when we look at – if that's true, that these two people who were the victims of this incident were Messianic Jews,
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And that's – and maybe we're missing something because I can understand the story.
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If they were not just, like, you know, regular, non-Messianic Jews, then you can paint a narrative of, you know,
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this is just another example of this nice Jewish couple who wants to propose,
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thinking of getting married in front of the Holocaust Museum of all places.
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I proposed to my wife when we were in Cancun on the beach.
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Hey, maybe I should have gone to the Museum of the African Diaspora and proposed to be there in front of a statue of Kunta Kinte.
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It's just – it's interesting because I recognize in the middle of all these, like, really hated discussions – or heated, rather, discussions about the Jews,
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We're in fact called to preach the gospel to them.
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And I don't think that means that you don't also talk about the, you know, many ways in which they're screwing up.
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I just got to say, David, I called you last week, and I called it – it was, like, I don't know, like 10 in the morning.
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And I was like, what does it mean – so they rejected Jesus.
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The Jews rejected Jesus because he was supposed to be – I guess they expected him to be some sort of royalty, but mainly a warrior.
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I mean, yeah, they looked at – so really quick, so when you look at the prophecies of the Messiah in the Old Testament,
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they fall into two broad categories, the suffering servant and the conquering king.
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You know, the suffering servant, you know, he's abused by men.
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He has no comeliness that men would desire him, blah, blah.
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Then the other one is he's going to come and rule with a rod of iron over the nations.
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Well, the problem is instead of accepting both of those ideas and say, okay, well, you know, he's going to keep –
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But what it means is if they both are true – we talked about this during the rapture thing –
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if there are multiple depictions of the same event, of a similar event, then they must be different events.
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So if you see two depictions of the Messiah, suffering servant, conquering king, then it means he's going to do both.
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We're just going to talk about the conquering king.
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So after about 600 years of disparaging the suffering servant, they only expected the conquering king.
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And when Jesus came as a suffering servant, they're like, this ain't our Messiah.
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He's going to come and he's going to overthrow the Roman Empire and set up his kingdom here and rule.
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He's going to come and overthrow the Roman Empire.
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There's a world empire, sort of, and it looks like America.
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Because I remember when I was living in Brooklyn on Ocean Parkway, they were like, our Messiah has come.
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You know, it's just another dude that is going to die.
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Like, did they think they thought that guy was a conquering king?
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Like, what are you what what are they actually telling us by saying they're waiting for somebody to who are you going to conquer?
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Why have you been kicked out of so many nations?
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Well, the Antichrist is going to be a false Messiah.
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Now, the Bible doesn't say specifically what the covenant is.
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You know, some a lot of Christian eschatologists say, well, it must be a peace treaty between the Israelis and the Palestinians.
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Maybe my I think, and again, this is totally speculation.
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I think he's going to confirm the Abrahamic covenant, because if you recall, the land grant that God gave to Abraham's descendants was from the Nile to the Euphrates.
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Modern Israel, even what they conquered in the after the Exodus, when they went to the promised land in the book of Joshua, they only conquered a certain part of that.
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They conquered, you know, they didn't conquer all of them because they got tired of fighting.
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We want to start farming and getting crops and digging for gold.
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And like, we don't want we don't want to fight anymore.
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So they didn't go anywhere near the Euphrates or the or the Nile.
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What if this Antichrist comes along and says, I'm giving you the whole land grant?
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You're going to have everything from the Nile to the Euphrates, which is a huge.
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I mean, that means like, you know, almost half of Iraq to the northern part of Egypt, all the way up to Syria.
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Yeah, that's massively more land than is currently the nation of Israel.
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Don't hold me to that, but I think it will be interesting.
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And that would definitely make them believe that, oh, this must be our Messiah, because he's giving us the land that God originally promised us that we just were we in the past were too lazy to conquer.
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And I think it is like a brutal insight is that if they're waiting for their Messiah and their Messiah will be a conqueror.
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And it's like they are kind of just sitting around waiting so that they can conquer, I guess, the Goyim, which is us.
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Well, well, it's like and then I'm I'm supposed I'm supposed to preach to you.
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It feels like it just feels like they're telling me, like, we're waiting for somebody to come.
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But if you're preaching the actual gospel of Jesus, it's not about that.
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You're you're said about the temporal conquest, because the the if you if you proselytize them and evangelize them into the New Testament, then they will see exactly how the conquest happens.
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It's not going to be a military conquest of some guy, you know, beating up on the Goyim is going to be Jesus returning at the end of the tribulation in the setting of his kingdom.
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And so, yeah, once they once they become Christians and embrace the New Testament, you know, the in Revelation, which which John basically outlines in detail how these things are going to happen, then you realize, OK, it's not what we thought.
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It's not going to be us fighting and conquering the Goyim is going to be, you know, Jesus overthrowing the the Antichrist.
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So, yeah, that's what they should be being told.
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It's like throughout the Bible, you aren't called.
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You're technically you're called to love the Jews and preach to them.
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But I don't think that that means that you can't call out their bad behavior.
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I was on another podcast when someone was talking about because, you know, this is obviously the biggest topic on on most podcasts these days.
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And the truth community is, you know, we have Christian Zionism.
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There's there's certain Christians, pastors, some of whom I who I respect for a lot of their teaching, but they're just all on board with Zionism.
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Nobody talked more crap about the Jews than God.
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I mean, not say your father is the devil, the equivalent, you know, I keep doing things for you and you keep betraying me.
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And we actually went over this in my Bible study.
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Last the last session was on the actually was last Sunday where God says, I'm not even going to hear your prayers anymore.
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I'm going to let the Babylonians come in and take your land.
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And you don't even deserve to be on this ground.
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My point is that if it's wrong to criticize the Jews, then God's wrong because he criticized the hell out of them.
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Like he spends most of the Old Testament just talking shit about the Jews and all the prophets were just saying, you guys suck.
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I was telling David during that same conversation, I was like, you know, like a lot.
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There's a lot of black people saying that they're the Jews.
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There's a Dustin Nemos types who are saying that the white people are the Jews.
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And I'm just like, why would you want to be the Jews if you read the Bible?
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Like even like even God is just like, guys, just get out of here.
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That's the thing that really gets me is, you know, we have this conversation about who are the Jews.
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And it's like, you know, as far as the genetic lineage or anything like that goes, that's one conversation.
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But if you look at the behavior, I will admit that the whole taking up of false gods, especially that aspect still rings true today.
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And if you couple that with the idea that that's happening at the upper echelons of politics and shit like that, they're like, you know, praise and Moloch and all that other crap.
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And then you look at the upper echelons of these institutions and you go, well, there's kind of a lot of Jews up there.
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And you go, well, by their behavior, I guess they are, you know.
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But I was listening to somebody talk about how, oh, all these Abrahamic religions need to put their differences aside because they all come from the same God.
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And it's like, well, they're, you know, in the Bible, it says whosoever denies the son denies the father.
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And so in that way, it's like, are they they're certainly not serving the same God.
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You know, obviously, all of creation comes from the same God, but are they serving the same God?
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Like the last thing you said, the Abrahamic religions, that really annoys me when people say the Abrahamic religions, because it's not Abraham.
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And then there are certain people who claim to be the descendants of Abraham, and there's no genetic linkage to them.
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And I'm sorry if I offend anyone here, but there is an idea that people who are who are Arabic are the descendants of Ishmael, who was actually Abraham's first son, not with his wife, Sarah, but with his basically with his maid.
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Well, she says, like, you know, yeah, thanks for the son, but get out.
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But there is no direct lineage between the sons of Ishmael and the current Arabic nations, because unlike the Jews who were who didn't generally intermarry, they, I'm not saying their bloodline isn't pure, but they tended to try to stay among themselves.
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You know, Esau, he married into the Ishmaelite tribes.
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So there's you can't directly say that everyone who's Arabic is a son of Ishmael, which would make them a descendant of Abraham.
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No, the Abrahamic religion is a religion of the God of the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, Yahweh.
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If you're not worshiping Yahweh, then you are not a part of the Abrahamic religions.
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And unfortunately, if you're a Muslim, you are not part of the Abrahamic religion because Abraham never acknowledged Allah.
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So if you're Jewish, yes, you're if you're worshiping that the Judeo Christian God.
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Yes, you're you're you're an Abrahamic religion.
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If you're if you're a Christian, you are because we were grafted in, according to Paul in the book of Galatians.
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The other piece wasn't how does it wasn't a King David?
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It throws these like these genetic lineages kind of into fray because then Jesus kind of come.
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Jesus comes through the line of David, you know, so it's like he wasn't even 100 percent.
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Well, because the and this is throughout the Bible, the lineage goes through the father.
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So the so so David was a had Moabite blood in him through through Ruth.
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But Ruth's husband, Boaz, was a was an Israelite.
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So then why do current Jews do a patriarchal of what is it called?
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A I don't know how to say the matriarchal or matriarchal lineage.
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Like, yeah, if your mother is Jewish, it's opposite.
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Well, and they know that because that's in the Old Testament.
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It's not like you can say, oh, that's that's something that the Christians made up.
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If you look at all the genealogies, they they are male.
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Now, granted, the genealogy of Jesus in in Matthew and in Luke do mention women and those
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One, to acknowledge that these that these women, such as Rahab, who was in Jericho and
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and Ruth and Esther and all those, they it's a Bible way of honoring them and also saying
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We're not saying that women aren't God's not saying that women aren't important.
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What he's saying is that the male has a different role.
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Remember, Jesus was not the biological son of Joseph.
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Jesus was a was a descendant of the royal house of David through his legal father, Joseph.
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Now, Mary was also a descendant of David, but she was not a descendant through the royal
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She went through David's because Joseph went went through the royal line of Solomon.
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Mary was was through the non royal line of Nathan, who was another son of David.
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So Jesus had the he had the legal and also that line was cursed through one of Solomon's
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God said that no, none of your descendants will ever prosper.
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Because I wait a minute, if God puts a blood curse on the royal line, then who can then how
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Well, because Jesus was a descendant of David through the non cursed line through Nathan.
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And and but he also had the legal right through Joseph.
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So it seems like the only thing that matters is belief in the son.
00:26:24.320
That's the only thing that matters at the end of the day.
00:26:26.240
It almost seems like a way I got a look at David made a new design.
00:26:31.080
It's not done yet, but this is going to be it's messed up.
00:26:38.760
But it seems like, you know, sometimes I look at it's not good.
00:26:43.420
I look at the the fulfillment of prophecy by the coming of Jesus Christ.
00:26:48.480
And I and I see it as like oftentimes in so many different ways, a simplification because
00:26:53.420
everything got so messed up that, you know, we needed to rectify this entire thing.
00:26:58.240
And it's like it works on so many different levels.
00:27:00.680
So it's almost like the argument of genetic lineage is moot.
00:27:06.720
Well, and the reason it doesn't matter is because right now God is not dealing with
00:27:11.620
the world through the Jews, the Jews, the point what the Jews are supposed to all become
00:27:16.360
quote unquote Christians, believers, because they're first there were Jews and Gentiles
00:27:21.160
in, you know, before Jesus, the Jews were the nation through whom he was supposed to
00:27:27.260
Then there, then after Jesus there, it was meant to just be Gentiles in the church, but
00:27:35.400
So now there are Jews, Gentiles in the church, but there's a reason that the, no, the temple
00:27:43.740
Jesus does not, you don't need to be a legal Jew to be a Christian.
00:27:47.460
That Christians are whom God is through whom God is dealing with right now.
00:27:51.860
And they, but until the age of Christianity is done until the age of the church is over,
00:27:56.580
that's when we'll go back to the, the, um, the previous dispensation or era, if you want
00:28:02.820
to call it that, because during the tribulation, you, in order to be saved again, the Holy spirit
00:28:08.140
will not be dwelling in people the way he does now.
00:28:10.580
I think you, you're actually going to have to know how to, um, become a believer through
00:28:18.640
That's all we, we'll do a whole, we should, we should do a whole show on that because
00:28:21.620
I mean, this is, like I said, I'm always so happy to talk to you because, uh, these
00:28:26.540
questions are, you know, I, sometimes I feel like they're a silly question, but, um, the
00:28:32.020
exchange that we, we have on this show, especially with, uh, you know, my dynamic is like, I'm coming
00:28:37.560
from a place of very limited knowledge and it ends up so often that my question ends up
00:28:43.260
in this big fascinating thing, at least in my opinion, uh, this big fascinating answer
00:28:46.740
right now where I'm in my limited knowledge, I have a big soft spot for the Messianic
00:28:51.360
I think, uh, there's a pastor, there's a guy named pastor Ben and he, uh, he's a big
00:29:00.080
Um, but he said specifically why he likes our show.
00:29:06.120
We had to ask him, we're like, why do you as a pastor listen to us as idiots?
00:29:14.480
But one of his favorite, uh, I guess his favorite parts of the show was you coming on for, you
00:29:20.680
And he was like, it's like, it was like, he's speaking to children.
00:29:30.180
I want to pick up the top set, by the way, cause I was trying to make notes cause you
00:29:33.900
guys had a few things I wanted to comment on it, comment on.
00:29:35.780
You were talking about, you know, there's certain, and I've encountered them, you know,
00:29:38.520
certain black people who say we're the real Hebrews.
00:29:40.200
And you have lost the whole 10 lost tribes thing, which I did a whole, a couple of videos
00:29:46.060
on where basically they said that the, the 10 lost tribes migrated to Northern Europe
00:29:51.260
and then magically transformed from Middle Eastern Jews to blonde hair, blue eyed Caucasians.
00:29:56.000
Then they came to the U S and now the U S is new Israel.
00:29:59.260
And you said something top, which I thought was really funny.
00:30:01.120
Cause it's something I always say when I'm, when I'm dealing with this and you say, you
00:30:05.900
They always get, you know, grabbed on and cut your wiener off.
00:30:11.000
Why would you want to be a Jew and you could be the church?
00:30:13.760
Because people take pride in it because I've gotten, I wouldn't say heated arguments, but
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Well, yeah, but look at what God actually says to them and, and, and, and what his precepts
00:30:53.340
Because I had a guy who got really mad at me because he was, he was an older white guy.
00:31:03.720
If you could be part of the church, do you understand that the promises God made to the
00:31:07.400
church are infinitely better than the promises to Israel?
00:31:13.980
He said they love to quote Deuteronomy chapter 28, when it talks about the blessings, the
00:31:18.140
first 15 verses say, you know, if, if you obey, and by the way, these are conditional
00:31:23.860
If you obey blessed, you will be coming in and going out and in the field, blah, blah.
00:31:31.020
If you obey, but if you don't obey, cause that's, that's one third of Genesis of Genesis
00:31:39.980
If you don't obey and the curses are even worse than the blessings, but none of the people
00:31:44.320
who were the 10 lost tribe folk ever want to talk about all the curses.
00:31:51.000
Because if you're not obedient, then you're going to get all the curses, which are worse.
00:31:54.840
That was something that I never understood before.
00:31:59.920
It's like, why is, why is God sending a strong delusion and doing this?
00:32:03.420
But, but after learning about Saul and, and the decisions that he made that were directly
00:32:08.400
in contrast to the directives that God gave him, it's, I understand that thing.
00:32:12.980
It's like, okay, you don't want to listen and you don't want to, uh, uh, you know, adhere
00:32:16.220
to the truth and adhere to my word kind of going to make it a lot worse for you then.
00:32:22.520
And the other thing is that the church is the bride of Christ.
00:32:27.520
Israel, and we see this in, um, in, in the parables in Matthew 25 about, you know, the
00:32:33.420
The, the, the, the 10 virgins are, are considered like the bridesmaids and they represent Israel.
00:32:41.640
So basically the church is the bride of Christ.
00:32:48.780
Who would you rather be in relationship to Jesus?
00:32:55.300
My best friend was with my best man at my wedding, knowing him longer than I know my wife.
00:33:06.820
But my wife's name is on our house and on my bank account.
00:33:14.540
My buddy or my, why would you want to be Jesus's buddy when you could be his bride?
00:33:17.920
And that's why I get when people are trying to be like the black, the black Hebrews is
00:33:24.800
I want to be the church because the church inherits everything.
00:33:29.560
It's that, um, black people's history has been, we've all had our history like obfuscated
00:33:36.220
I would say that the black community or black people in general have been, um, at the forefront
00:33:40.760
of receiving those deceptions and having their cultures destroyed and everything.
00:33:44.520
And I think when you're that disenfranchised from, you know, the history of mankind, you
00:33:51.560
And that's what gives rise to like, honestly, within the black community, there's a lot of this,
00:33:55.180
like, not only are the, there's the black Israelites, but there's also, um, the whole
00:34:00.380
Yacoub thing where it's like the idea that black people made white people, but then there's
00:34:06.760
And, and recently I saw a video where they were like, we were the original Nazis, which
00:34:13.060
Now they're, now they're also redheads or now they're also redheads.
00:34:16.980
So what's, so what's going on is like, they've been stripped of their identity to such a massive
00:34:21.900
And in the West, we give them victimhood identity.
00:34:24.060
So you could either adhere to that or you can kind of go crazy trying to figure out
00:34:31.800
And I think the reason they claim that is because it's God's chosen, but yeah.
00:34:35.760
And also because, you know, we've been through a lot and it looks like that, it looks like
00:34:39.800
you say black people have, have received the curses because, you know, we, you know, obviously
00:34:44.480
there's, you know, enslavement and, and like a lot of the resources in, and many of the
00:34:48.420
African nations have been taken by, you know, non black people, so forth and so on.
00:34:55.180
It's happening right now with the lithium mines and the, yeah, it's, it's, yeah, it's
00:35:02.380
So yeah, it's, it's part of, it's, it's really like, like you said, Raven, it's about trying
00:35:06.260
to find an identity, even if the identity is not great.
00:35:11.600
And look, I'm obviously, obviously I'm, I'm, I'm black.
00:35:15.460
I've, I've, you know, done the 23 and me, which I shouldn't have done.
00:35:17.460
Cause that doesn't mean they have all my DNA, but it was a gift from my father.
00:35:22.580
Um, about, you know, 15 years ago, it was just like a gift to this.
00:35:26.460
And it turns out, you know, there's mostly Nigeria and some Western, some other parts
00:35:31.840
But anyway, the point is that, um, you know, trying to find that identity is important
00:35:38.080
because it, it, it's important to your self-esteem to know who you are.
00:35:41.800
And even if you're identifying with a marginalized group, at least, Hey, at least we know our
00:35:50.860
So I know where I'm going is a genuine question.
00:35:53.660
I also like the energy of like, we're all very lost right now.
00:35:57.160
There's been a Mac, a massive effort to obscure the past.
00:35:59.920
And I like that there are like segments of the black community.
00:36:02.260
That's like, well, I mean, if we're all lost, let's just grab out.
00:36:10.700
I do like, I'm telling you, man, it's, it's a crazy sign up.
00:36:14.020
Like they, so they've replaced a lot of, I think that's, this is a different conspiracy,
00:36:18.000
but they've replaced a ton of redheaded Marvel characters with black people.
00:36:22.380
And now there's like this movement of black people telling redheads that they said, no, you're
00:36:26.900
actually black, that redhead people are black, but you're like,
00:36:39.460
The fact that they just came along and claim gingers is the most fun.
00:36:46.060
There's videos of like gingers hanging out with black people and being like, yeah, baby,
00:36:54.500
I, I kind of, I don't want to say I had a thing for ginger.
00:36:56.400
I actually, I actually, in college, I dated the redhead.
00:36:58.220
And I'll say, looking at their back ends, there's no blackness there.
00:37:08.760
Well, honestly, albino ism is a loss of pigmentation.
00:37:13.460
It makes it so much cooler when it's like, no, it's not a loss of pigmentation.
00:37:21.780
He was on the show early, early, early on the show.
00:37:25.280
A lot of people, they go up to him and they, he looks like me, but like not.
00:37:29.420
And they think that he's an albino black dude, because like he's got, it's, it's,
00:37:36.940
So he gets like an afro and his, something about his facial features.
00:37:39.980
They're like mine, but just a little bit different.
00:37:59.880
I know you had some, some questions that came across your table, Ed.
00:38:03.580
And, and I kind of excited to answer those here.
00:38:06.360
I think I like that aspect of the show too, where it's like, we're bringing these
00:38:09.200
questions that people are kicking your way and we're, we're
00:38:14.460
So as part of the Bible study, this game, you know, we're going through the
00:38:18.600
And so a couple of months ago, we were talking about the Exodus and, and,
00:38:23.540
you know, how, again, from the supernatural point of view, looking at how
00:38:26.340
God was basically, the 10 plagues were not just about the physical, you
00:38:29.520
know, turning the Nile to blood and the hail and the frogs and lice.
00:38:33.600
God was specifically judging the Egyptian gods.
00:38:37.020
You know, he would judge, he would judge Nude and Hathor, who was a goddess of
00:38:41.220
And he would judge, you know, Cyrus, who was a god of the firstborn and, and,
00:38:57.240
Um, you know, as far as the judgment of the Egyptian gods, because
00:39:01.120
peripherally from the outside, looking in, it looks like a straight up a
00:39:05.640
No, it was, it was, it was, you know, what God was showing again, that's why
00:39:09.400
the great thing about the Bible studies that you get that other point of view
00:39:12.420
that he wasn't just about, Hey, I'm just randomly smacking the Egyptian
00:39:16.840
No, they were specifically to show that the God of the Israelites, Yahweh is
00:39:21.760
superior to all the gods that the Egyptians were worshiping.
00:39:25.200
It was really, it was a flex God saying, I am the true God.
00:39:27.700
Cause not only am I going to, you know, judge your gods, I'm going to
00:39:32.100
So, you know, the, the God of the frogs, Keck, I'm going to, I'm going to
00:39:36.380
If he's so powerful and he's over the frogs, why doesn't he stop it?
00:39:40.260
Why does, you know, why doesn't Hathor stop the slaughtering of the cattle?
00:39:43.480
So we were talking about the narrative in Pharaoh's heart and heart.
00:39:46.880
And someone asked me, okay, well, that doesn't seem fair.
00:39:49.900
So let's just look at what the scenario was, what we're told when, you know,
00:39:54.500
it's in the Bible, obviously is, is that, um, God tells Moses, Israelites cry out,
00:40:01.080
We want to get, we set us free and God commissions most.
00:40:04.160
And CDC says, go to, you're going to go to Pharaoh and tell them to let my people go.
00:40:08.940
Um, and then, but Pharaoh's going to say no, but I'm going to harden his heart.
00:40:13.420
And, and then because I'm hardened, hardening his heart, then I'm going to judge him with
00:40:17.180
all these plagues and show all my signs and wonders.
00:40:19.100
And then not only are they going to let you go, they're going to give you a bunch of stuff,
00:40:22.200
riches and send you off again, that on the surface, that doesn't seem fair.
00:40:30.200
And then you judge him on the heart that you hardened.
00:40:33.980
And so I, that's something that bothered me growing up, not having a full explanation
00:40:38.360
for it, because again, most churches, pastors don't like to be questioned because honestly,
00:40:49.480
God does tell Moses everything I just said, but he tells Moses, go to Pharaoh and tell
00:40:58.280
He says to let them go to Mount Sinai to worship me.
00:41:03.560
Basically God says, can you give them a weekend pass to go and worship me?
00:41:10.100
So this, that Pharaoh was not the one who enslaved them.
00:41:15.300
So while it's not good that he, that they were enslaved, it wasn't technically his fault.
00:41:20.340
So if you look at, at justice, what justice means is everything has to equal out.
00:41:25.220
It even matches what people say about things like karma or whatever.
00:41:28.060
It just means that everything has to equal out.
00:41:29.600
So if you do something bad, God can pay you back by doing something bad to you.
00:41:41.440
If you do something good with, and you don't get paid back and you're a plus one, well,
00:41:50.080
And that's really important because, um, in my, my next Genesis video that I'm putting
00:41:54.880
up on Patreon, probably, um, today, cause I, I'm just finishing up the video is on the
00:42:00.180
And what that meant was that God is not, thank you.
00:42:08.340
Um, it doesn't mean that he was tired, but the rest of me that God sees his activity of
00:42:17.980
The first two chapters, God is saying, this is, I want this world.
00:42:23.980
I'm going to make this land and the sea and all this kind of stuff.
00:42:28.360
I'm only going to react the idea of the job of being the first cause is given over to
00:42:38.680
So from Genesis chapter two, all the way to the very end of the book, everything God does
00:42:43.040
is a reaction to what we do and what the fallen angels do.
00:42:47.180
So with Pharaoh, he, he, he doesn't initiate his will.
00:42:51.280
What happened was there was justice there because the Israelites had been since late for
00:43:11.260
Not only does he say no, then he says, I'm going to make their burden harder because I'm
00:43:15.260
going to make them get their own straw to make the bricks.
00:43:17.760
And they have to do the same amount of, of bricks as before, but now they got to go,
00:43:29.180
So the first thing he hardens his heart and every time God, um, uh, executes justice,
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By saying no and by heart and by increasing their burden, God says, okay, you're going
00:44:18.340
And then God says, I'm going to send a plague onto Israel, excuse me, onto Egypt and with
00:44:28.280
So the hardening of the heart was just because Pharaoh was at a negative and God could do that.
00:44:32.180
And then he's in, and then I'm Pharaoh, um, uh, made their burden more difficult.
00:44:42.400
So Moses goes back because, and he says, let my people go.
00:44:48.400
So God can bring him on about the next plan about the next plague.
00:44:54.780
Then at the second plague, um, the plague of frogs, um, Pharaoh says, okay, I'm going
00:45:03.220
If you, if you can call off the frogs, Moses says, cool.
00:45:11.560
So now God hardens his, so, so now, and you, and then Pharaoh hardens his own heart.
00:45:17.000
If you read the narrative, God only hardens his heart once at the very beginning, then Pharaoh
00:45:24.020
Because Pharaoh doesn't realize he's at a negative.
00:45:26.600
He thought he was perfectly within his rights to, to not let the Israelites go and to make
00:45:32.500
So Pharaoh thinks he is at zero when he's actually at minus one or minus two.
00:45:36.880
So then he gets even worse and he hardens his own heart.
00:45:40.660
So God can make, can keep escalating these plagues because Pharaoh keeps doing worse
00:45:47.000
So he's always in the negative side of justice.
00:45:49.060
So God can continue to, um, he plagues upon him.
00:45:52.600
And that's why the plagues keep getting worse and worse.
00:45:54.460
All I think he's at, if you do the math, he's at about, when, when he gets to the final
00:45:58.240
plague of the death of the firstborn, he's at about a minus five because he keeps, because
00:46:03.500
a couple of times he'll say, okay, I'll let him go.
00:46:05.000
If you call off the plagues, Moses calls off the plagues.
00:46:11.740
So that's why something so extreme was allowed to befall.
00:46:18.320
And then, and so, and then someone had a follow-up question and they said, you know,
00:46:22.600
well, why did the Egyptians get this punishment for Pharaoh?
00:46:25.500
Well, because they had been benefiting from the Israelites being enslaved for all this
00:46:31.440
And they could have said, Hey, you know, after the first plague, let these people go, get
00:46:36.160
They, they said, no, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to stand with you.
00:46:43.080
And so at the very end, they, all of them, you know, they let the Israelites go and they
00:46:48.060
So what, um, and so what this person did, I'm not going to name him cause I'm not going
00:46:53.680
to out him, but he revealed that he had been the victim of abuse growing up.
00:46:59.700
And he asked to say, if, if, if everything that happens is, is with God's approval and
00:47:04.420
God's justice, did I do something to, to, to deserve being abused?
00:47:13.380
You didn't do anything to be deserved, to deserve it.
00:47:15.340
But you have to understand that, and he said, well, then why didn't God stop it?
00:47:25.780
He can't punish anyone before they commit the sin, which means unfortunately that they
00:47:30.620
have to commit the sin in order for God to render justice to them.
00:47:35.060
We don't like it because we prefer God just stop it before it happens.
00:47:38.300
But if he did that, he number one, he'd be going against his own precept.
00:47:41.560
And number two, he'd be violating our free will.
00:47:43.700
If we, if, if, if you knew that God was going to stop you from doing something bad before
00:47:52.480
But what he can do is, is, is punish people afterwards.
00:47:56.600
But in the end, that's the system of justice that we all acknowledge every day.
00:48:00.580
You don't call the police because you think somebody, you think somebody is going to kill
00:48:08.680
They can't arrest you for thinking about murder.
00:48:18.120
They can't, um, justly arrest you for just thinking bad thoughts about someone.
00:48:26.300
Our free will across even like, uh, the pagan mythology seems to be like this, one of the
00:48:33.120
It's like, even when, you know, uh, Zeus and the rest of the Pantheon want something from
00:48:38.740
their, their heroes, their demigods, their chosen, uh, uh, champions.
00:48:43.220
You could see in a lot of situations that it has to be their choice.
00:48:47.340
They're not allowed to intercede in a, in a, in a big way.
00:48:50.200
They can possibly inspire, but they can't just direct.
00:48:54.120
And what's interesting is that theme has popped up again recently.
00:48:57.720
This woman on Tik TOK who is channeling, um, this thing called seven and she's been channeling
00:49:07.120
And she's got all the transcribes of all the communications she's had with this thing.
00:49:10.680
And it, it does speak about like their destiny, her and her friends who are communicating with
00:49:18.060
And they get very frustrated because every time it talks about what they're supposed to
00:49:25.560
Like, why can't you just tell us what we're supposed to do?
00:49:28.720
This is, you know, very, um, anxiety inducing it.
00:49:32.140
Uh, we seem to have these, these things that please ban the Ouija board.
00:49:36.340
Um, we seem to have these really important missions.
00:49:41.900
And it alludes to the idea that it has to be them.
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Whatever this thing is, isn't supposed to intercede.
00:50:19.380
And I think there's, there is a set of rules that, you know, even God seems to adhere to.
00:50:25.580
We're going to talk about this actually in the next part.
00:50:27.260
I want to, there's some Nephilim stuff I want to talk about with the Bond Angels.
00:50:30.480
But people underestimate the level of sovereignty that human beings have.
00:50:52.740
And when I asked him why he did a thing, it was because his friend told him to do a thing.
00:50:58.720
And even, even, you know, just a goofy human in my lack of wisdom, you know, I adhere to the same rules.
00:51:06.300
It's, it doesn't matter who told you to do a thing.
00:51:09.380
You are ultimately responsible for anything that you choose to do.
00:51:12.440
And throughout life, you will not get far if you do a thing and blame it on everybody but yourself.
00:51:18.360
You know, it's, it's, yeah, that theme echoes consistently through life.
00:51:22.220
Yeah, well, this person who I was talking to, he was basically saying that, you know, if, if God's in control of everything, you know, and he used the Job example with, you know, with the Hasatan, the Satan.
00:51:34.160
And, well, he said, well, well, then basically God approves of everything that's done, meaning that God approved of the abuse.
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And I'm like, no, first of all, I mean, I, I pointed him back to the part, to the, the, the study in the Bible study where we went over Job and actually the, the, the Hasatan in Job is not the, the dragon, because it seems he was, he was, he was, Hasatan means the adversary.
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His job, he had the job of being the adversary.
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His job was to test people to see if they would still walk with God under adversity.
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And I said, no, that doesn't, because God does not, just because God allowing something isn't the same as approving it, approving of it.
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Because if, if everything you do, I mean, if you allow someone to do something, it doesn't, it means you're not stopping them from it, from doing it.
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So yes, God allows these things to happen because if he didn't allow it, he, we wouldn't have free will.
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We want people to not have free will to harm us, but we want them to have, well, we want to have free will to do what, what we want to do.
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God cannot curtail the free will of people who we want him to curtail the free will of, but then give us free will to do what we want to do.
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So if you believe in free will and you believe it's a good thing, then you have to accept the fact that people have the free will to choose to do evil.
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That's a, that's an argument that you'll hear against the, the concept of God even existing.
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Why would, uh, why would a God, you know, allow this thing to happen if there was a, a benign creator, a good creator out there?
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And it's like, that is a very, you can't have free will.
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And then also have, uh, the creator interceding on, on behalf to, to, it takes away your free will.
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Does that also mean we couldn't do free, good things?
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I mean, let's say I see someone homeless on the street and I want to give them some money.
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Well, if I don't have free will, I can't do that either.
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People only think about the bad things we do with our free will, but we also have the option to do good things.
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We can, we can do things that are beneficial, but if we don't have free will, we can't even do that.
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We talked about this when we talked about the millennium, you know, that's the point of the millennium is that Jesus will judge people immediately.
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And that's why they're going to hate the millennium so much because they're like, we don't have any freedom.
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You said you wanted God to step in immediately every time when evil is being committed and stop it.
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Well, again, people are only thinking about the big evils that other people do, not the small evils that they do.
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Like, you know, lying, cheating, stealing, lusting, getting angry.
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I mean, you know, granted they're not on the same scale, but you know, lying to someone is a sin.
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Just like, you know, molest, molestations of sin.
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They're not, again, they're, they're more dramatic effects, but there's both of, God doesn't want either other.
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So he has to stop both, not just the big things that other people do, but also the small things you do.
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So no one, everyone wants free will when it benefits them, but they don't want free will when it doesn't benefit them.
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I mean, just doing this, uh, doing this show, like we want, we want the free will to kind of like explore these wild ideas and kind of go crazy.
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But then I'm also like, Oh God, please bless the, what I'm doing.
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And he's like, I don't, I don't even know how that works together in, in conjunction with these things.
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But I don't know, trying to make something interesting here.
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So I think, I think he looks at the bigger picture as well.
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I mean, it's not like you're, you're only fans, you know, just when they, when they find my only fans, then the show is definitely over.
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I think in the big picture, you know, your, your, your goal is to do good by, you know, bringing a different perspective, bringing in people who don't want to hear a stodgy message from some guy in a suit, standing in a pulpit saying, you know, you know, be good.
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No, you want someone to, you can, you can relate to and who's, there are different ways to get to, you know, to God.
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And it's, it's interesting because, and I don't want to like brag about what the show is, but, uh, my, my cousin, she's, uh, she's married to this guy and he will have him on the show eventually when they, when they come back to visit.
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But, uh, he's in like seminary, he's a, he's like a biblical theologian.
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He's, he's very like solo scriptura kind of guy, like to the book.
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And I, I'm the kind of dude that when I'm hanging out with them, I'll, I'll push all his buttons.
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He's not going to like, he doesn't get like offended and walk away, but he's just like, damn, this guy's crazy.
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But, uh, he, he got the opportunity in, uh, South Carolina now to, to pastor his own church as he's still, I think he graduated from, uh, whatever theological school.
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He's going, he's doing more, but he's also pastoring, which is just a great opportunity.
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And he actually asked me a couple of weeks ago when he was here, he was like, what do you think is a good method for like, um, like evangelizing?
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Going door to door, knocking or talking to people.
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And, and I'm just like, man, I don't, we, we spoke about it for like three hours.
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And then I actually brought him into my office.
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I showed him what I do, what we do here as far as content creation.
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I was like, I think you should be implementing this.
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Of course is I, it's insane, but like in your own way, there's ways that you can do.
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So like, we were just sitting down and chatting about these explanations on how to reach people.
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Cause in the end, I think he, he sees what we're doing here.
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And he, I guess I've never discussed my goals or aims with him with this show specifically, but he sees it.
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And then he, he's saying like, how do I do that?
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Like, I don't have like a, a, you know, a brick and mortar ministry or ministry at all, but this is what I do.
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I think you would, you would enjoy him too, Ed.
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To try to give somebody advice is like, you know, on how to do this is really weird because I don't even think this is what we set out to do.
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And then, you know, so, so even if I tried to give somebody advice, like you're going to want to do this and you're going to want to do that, like that would kind of be false.
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There is, there is a thing right now that's not working for the modern Christian church or pastors where.
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He's like, he's seeing that like, we're approaching normal people and I'm able to have this conversation.
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Like, I'm not going to have the conversation and be like, all right, would you like to close your eyes and accept Jesus Christ with me now?
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Like I, I can't bring you past that line, but I can at least open this, this door that they can't, you know, I have to get, I got to get you to that guy.
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I got to get you to Mark or I got to get you to Ed and then they can, they can close the deal.
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Cause I just know that that's not in my skill box, but it's not in his skill box to talk to a lot of different people about these subjects or even open up the conversation.
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A hard open, like I went into a new age smoke shop slash bar club and I'm talking to Jesus Christ about these guys on an Island somewhere next to Epstein Island.
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I don't know how I did it, but like, like we got there, two hour conversation and we're doing it.
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And it's like, so he's asking me how you do that.
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I really think that, you know, there's, there it's become a cliche in the, in the social media world that authenticity is a new currency.
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It's people don't want a polished, a polished scripted thing.
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Like when there's so much media out there that, you know, when someone's being fake, you can just sense it because, because you also know when people are being authentic, because there's so many content creators out there that are just real.
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You can say, okay, well now I know this person is sincere.
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So I would just tell him just be, be you because people can see through it now.
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It's a, it's a, because like I was, I were a little off subject, but like there is a thing with the modern church where it's either like some of the contents out there that's put out there is just poor,
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Like they don't, it's almost like they don't care about the aesthetic.
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Some of the other content is super overproduced.
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The aesthetic is tremendous, better than some Hollywood stuff, but the content, it makes it almost seem like a disingenuous.
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So I'm like, I'm trying to, yeah, it feels plastic, but it's, it looks great.
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Like they, you know, he's got his $5,000 Taylor guitar that's made from coal wood and all this stuff, but he's playing G chords, C chords.
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And I'm telling him, I'm like, listen, there's a space and it's like a little bit of trickery, but it's like, you can have high quality stuff.
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You can record it in such a way where it does feel genuine.
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You have to, I don't know how to tell you to do it, but like there, there's a pattern.
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There's a method here that you can get to a very good product that will reach a lot of people that doesn't seem pretentious and some people just can't seem to land there.
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I got to admit, like right now I'm seeing this in the chat.
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So, uh, so Reb Sims says, uh, my dad is a pastor and like, dude, every time one of that, like that flavor of thing happens, I'm like, what are you doing here?
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Like, I know, I know what they're doing here at the book of Genesis episode with Ed Mabry, but I see Reb all the time.
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Um, and, and knowing that I'm like, didn't your father teach you better than to listen to people like me and Todd?
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It's the same thing with pastor Ben, where it's like, I imagine that much of the way we explore topics would, would make people recoil if you grew up in the church.
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And maybe that goes to the thing that you're talking about where it's like, it's authenticity.
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Cause when I see Joel Olsteen, I go, um, luckily I know that one man's mouthpiece is not the ultimate representative of Christianity or anything for that matter.
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But I can see how that would immediately turn you off because it's unrelatable.
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That guy does not feel like there's a human in that flesh suit.
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None of that feels, but he goes home and gets pegged.
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And, and, and, but I mean, is his, um, you know, he's, he's reading from the book and he's, he's probably applying appropriate scriptures, you know, cause a lot of it is like, you might be going through this in your life or that in your life.
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And here's a scripture that's relative to that.
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And let's like, so all of that is there, but the mouthpiece feels like a, like you said before plastic.
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That's exactly what I think of when I think of Joel Olsteen or that other guy that looks like a demon, he doesn't look like plastic.
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What's the, uh, um, the old guy's name with the fire in his eyes.
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Uh, the guy that talks about, uh, being on a private jet and he does that because he doesn't want to be on an airplane filled with demons.
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But a lot of these more famous pastors, Copeland, Kenneth Copeland.
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Cause he's like one of these big gigantic head.
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Uh, but yeah, so, so I see that and I'm like, I, no wonder people are, are disenchanted with Christianity.
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And then eventually a scandal comes out and you're like, wait a minute, you were all, you were all pious.
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And now you do, there was a pastor, um, black pastor in Atlanta by the name of Eddie Long.
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And, you know, he was, you know, all the pious way, good guy.
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Then it turns out that he gets sued because he was taking a bunch of his, um, I forgot what he called them, but young, young boys taking him to the Caribbean.
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And one of them sued him because they said he, he came to the Caribbean and turn these kids out.
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And then, you know, you see a few months later, he's wasting what he was actually a big, big, pretty big, robust guy.
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It looked like he worked out a lot and, you know, but then he like shriveled up to nothing.
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And again, when I was in college, um, I, I did, um, I, I interned at an AIDS hospice, you know, I was majoring in psychology.
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So, and so I, I saw what people went through as they were deteriorating with HIV.
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I, he, he went through the exact same stages that I saw people going through when I was interning for a year and a half at this AIDS hospice.
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So he was having gay sex with, with these boys, which is horrible.
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My point is that you come off as you're holier than thou.
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And then when it turns out you're a human, then people fall away.
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You know, I say, I just, I just accused Joel Osten of getting pig.
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So I'm not going to pretend that I'm somebody I'm not.
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but I don't pretend to be better than anybody else.
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And we just, I don't know if you've been to that area,
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there's like one narrow road that you go through.
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And so we're like, okay, we need to get back to campus.
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I mean, all I'm trying to do is avoid the lights coming towards me.
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I'm like, oh, and everyone's like, we're scared to this guy.
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You know, we're a bunch of Black guys in Malibu,
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Cop comes to the window, taps on the window, roll it down.
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And he says, let me see your lights and registration.
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So I looked at him and I said, these are not the droids you're looking for.
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Indeservedly so I should not have been driving.
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Do we have any other questions that you wanted to talk about?
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Because I know we also wanted to talk a little bit about.
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I just wanted to talk about the hard and hard thing because that's a big thing.
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It's a stumbling block for a lot of Christians.
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And it was for me, too, because I didn't get it.
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I guess David liked to talk about the karma system a little bit.
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I like that idea of justice, whether it be, you know, justice always seems like a negative.
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Yeah, if you get something good back, that is, I mean, it's, yeah, the Hindus call it karma,
01:07:43.480
It's interesting, too, because I do think that's a lot of, like, what these other pagan
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mythologies do, is they take real principles, and they'll invert them.
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They'll attribute them to something else other than God, you know.
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Actually, no, it was on my old show where I read somebody's submission.
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They were in communication with some sort of entity, and it claimed that the karmic system
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was not created by God, but it was created by the angels, and it was imperfect because of
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that, and, but, I mean, I think you see that a lot, where it's like, they take, that's
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why, if you look into all these other mythologies, there are themes that you will find in the
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They just attribute it to something totally different, you know.
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They attribute it to one of the fallen, typically.
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Because I was talking to someone about this, well, about the end times, and they brought
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up the Kali Yuga, that we're at the end of this Kali Yuga period, and how do you think
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And I said, well, look, everyone knows that we're due for a judgment.
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Not even religious, even if you're non-religion.
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I mean, what's one of the most popular genres in Hollywood right now is apocalyptic stuff,
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You know, the walking dead, all these different, you know, the last of us.
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So we all know, because we all believe in justice, whether you believe in a God or gods
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or not, you still believe that things should be fair.
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You know that inherently that justice exists, and that this world is deserving of an equalization
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So you know that, so judgment day makes sense to you.
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So, and the problem, the issue with a Kali Yuga is not that it's untrue, but I would say
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And so the thing is that the Satan, fallen angels, they don't care what you believe as
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So they'll say things like, yeah, you can end times, do good, be loving.
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As long as you don't accept Jesus as your savior, because being good is not going to
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Believing in the apocalypse is not going to get you to heaven.
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The only thing that's going to get you to the presence of God is believing in Jesus.
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So they don't care if you are a good person or if you're loving and kind, because that's
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They just, the only thing that they don't want you to do is believe in Jesus for the
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So I see that a lot where it's like, you know, they would prefer to be worshiped, but
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they'll take you worshiping anything other than, than God over, you know, and if that
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means worshiping material possessions, or if it means worshiping, you know, Marvel or
01:10:12.020
Star Wars or something like that, like they'll take that over you worshiping God.
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That sounds like, you know, what the Bible says.
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So I'll worship, you know, the gods of the Hindus.
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They're cool with that because that means you're not going to Jesus.
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Oh, well, Christianity says you should love your neighbor, but Islam says that you should
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And the Buddhism says that you should treat people.
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Cause you're not going to be, cause you're not going to believe in Jesus.
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I also find that those people, they're just, it's their disdain for Christianity that leads
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Like, it's not like they like, Oh, Buddhism just seems better.
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It's like, no, you actually don't like Christianity because here in the West, we've
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propagandized you for the past, like three, four or five generations into hating it.
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So what I was saying, like with those people in the, uh, in, in that, uh, that place on St.
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Thomas, it was like, we were having a good conversation and it was obviously all leaning new
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And when I brought up Jesus Christ, I was like, like, it's funny.
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Like I could have just, if I slapped the lady, it would have been the same reaction.
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Just like a, like this kind of, uh, everyone recoil.
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I'll, I'm going to get out of here before they sacrifice me.
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You're going to start bringing up the Bible and telling me I can't smoke the, the, the
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They were actually unfamiliar with some of the, um, the verses that I was quoting to them.
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It's also mentioned in the Bible, like in the Bible, where in the Bible.
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And then I told them where in the Bible that this idea is, you know, is touched on.
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Dude, honestly, the propaganda has, it's been so successful in so many ways.
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And I think a lot of it is, um, standup comedians, you know, standup comedians through the eighties
01:12:00.580
and nineties are just getting on stage and they're just railing against Christianity.
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A sound of applause, you know, the rounds, rounds of applause.
01:12:07.380
And yeah, well, it gets, yeah, nothing gets you applause like that.
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I mean, I remember George Carlin, who was very funny, but you know, he was very real rabid
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And, you know, Bill Maher, who was less funny, but he would do the same thing that he just,
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All you have to do is just come out and say the, the, you know, something anti-God or something
01:12:40.400
So, um, I'm going to kind of move ahead of where we kind of left off because we, we, we talked
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we'll just be kind of riffing on things in Genesis as we're, as we're working through
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And what I want to talk about just came from an interview I saw last month, um, between
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I mean, I've been, uh, I've liked a lot of his stuff and used to work with Steve Quayle.
01:13:03.580
They had did a lot of stuff on the Nephilim and on these different structures in, in Peru
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and, um, and, um, Argentina and Chile and all over just all these certain things that
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they think were built by the Nephilim or by the fallen angels.
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They, they attribute it to a race of giants having created cannibalistic giants who died
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And then you have a Michael Knowles who I, I've heard him here and there.
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I know he's, you know, very hyper Catholic, but he seems like a reasonable, intelligent
01:13:34.320
And they were talking about the Nephilim and Knowles had a lot of good questions for him
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because I know that, um, in official Catholic doctrine, the Nephilim aren't really promoted
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And again, that's not, not getting on a high horse because in mainstream Christianity, the
01:13:50.240
Nephilim aren't really talked about much as they, there is, there's the whole, um, sons
01:13:54.980
of Seth idea that the, that the Benahai Elohim were the, were the sons of God or the sons
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And they married the daughters of Cain and they, that's where the Nephilim came from, which
01:14:06.520
Why would a, why would a believer marrying a non-believer have a kid who's a giant?
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You know, if that were the case, when my parents were married, my, my mom was a believer.
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But if that was the case, when I was conceived, I was conceived by a believer, non-believer
01:14:25.340
People don't know this about you, but the camera actually takes off like three feet.
01:14:36.340
I'm, I'm me and, um, and what's the, uh, what's the producer's name on, on Sam Tripoli
01:14:46.720
I am very angry because everybody in this, in this like conspiracy content creation,
01:14:55.660
You know, even the blurry creature guys are like 17 feet tall.
01:14:59.120
That guy who took over, he didn't take over Candace Owens show, but he sat in for
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Anyway, but, um, how do, how do we even get there?
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And so, so Michael knows what's asking, cause again, it's not part of, of, of Catholic
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So he asked some questions about, you know, why did they come down and have intercourse
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And what Albarino basically said was that they lusted after these women to have intercourse
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with them, but he made it seem like they were a bunch of frat boys on a bender that they
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physically lusted after women that they wanted to have sex because they had, you know, nice
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And they just wanted to, you know, and I'm like, yeah, that's not actually what happened.
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And angels don't have a sex drive the way we have a sex drive.
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And to believe that you would, God would have to be unjust because remember God made
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So, and angels don't have intercourse with each other.
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So God would have had to have made them horny for no reason.
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And the only, so he would say, well, I have this desire and there's no one here.
01:16:10.180
But so basically God would have been setting them up to fail.
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Why would he give you a desire that you cannot legitimately have an outlet for?
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Now we have the same drive and we can use it illegitimately, which many of us do, but
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legitimately, which is supposed to be with our spouse for enjoyment and procreation.
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What they had was they, they did lust after them, but their desire wasn't the physical
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And this is when you get down to the whole purpose of them.
01:16:47.240
And this also gets down to, um, what I talked about on the seventh day, what I'm talking
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about on the seventh day of rest with, you know, again, I should be out later today or
01:16:59.420
So we talked about this earlier in the Genesis series, that when God created the heaven and
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the earth, and then he had the angels, he created the, you know, the Elohim, the Malachim,
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But then when the angelic rebellion happened, they were restricted to the heavens to the spiritual
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He told Adam and Eve, you know, the earth is yours.
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We are spirit beings inside these flesh bodies.
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So what God said, his own law was that the earth can be dominated by entities that are part
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Well, then you have a contingent of angels who are like, well, we used to dominate the earth
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How can we get back what we want through the law of God?
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Well, if we can create beings that are partially physical and partly spiritual, well, then God,
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by his own law and rules, would have to let them dominate if they kill off everyone else.
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So that exactly, so exactly, so Albertino called it and that's why I was kind of disappointed
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So what the fallen angels saw, what they desired, what they saw from the women were that the
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word, and I'm going to get to this when I get to Genesis 6 in my series, is when they
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saw that the women were fair, that word is unfortunately translated beautiful, which makes
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you think, oh, they just thought women were hot.
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No, they saw that women were fit, fit extensions.
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See, these angels, they could see in higher dimensions.
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We can see in our three spatial dimensions, they're extremely utilitarian.
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Yeah, and they saw that if we make ourselves physical and have intercourse, we can produce
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And notice that they didn't just have sex with the women, they married them.
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They entered into a marriage covenant with them intentionally because they wanted it to
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It also makes sense as to why the punishment was like, you're going to watch your children
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And they're going to watch them destroy each other.
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They're also like, if you're raising a child, if I'm raising a son, I am showing him the way
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So it's like, yeah, they want to be involved because they're showing these kids what they want
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So what they're doing is, is using God's holiness against him because look, God, you
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So we were, so we're going to, first of all, we're going to get legally married.
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So, so everything, all of our offspring are going to be legal and you have to honor that.
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And they're going to be spiritual, physical hybrids and they're going to start killing off
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As you talked to this, as you said before, Raven, we're going to kill them all off.
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And then they can have legal dominion over the earth.
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And of course, as part of the marriage covenant, you, the part of it is that the, the, you have
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to go to the father of the bride and say, Hey, I want to marry this person.
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And of course, the gifts, if we see in the book of, you know, gifts, they taught them
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Al-Zazel taught them, you know, swords and which means that before this, people didn't
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Taught them how to make armor, taught them how to make weapons.
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No, so they taught, they also taught, I always like saying this because it always makes
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It also taught them cosmetology, taught them how to make makeup and to beautify.
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So, you know, they showed them how to put the red on their face, make them look flush.
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Because again, makeup is really to make a woman look like she wants to have sex or, or
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That's what, you know, your lips are really red.
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So that's the whole point of makeup is to make you look sexual.
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Like you either are aroused or you just finished having sex.
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Which is really funny because nowadays it's like, this is not for men.
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But it was a female comedian who said if there were no men in the world, every woman
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would be like, you know, fat and wearing flannel.
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They'd just be worried about being warm and not getting burnt up by the sun or what the
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So number one, I didn't watch that interview with, uh, Indiana moans because I don't care
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I think that it's a lot of subversion, but I will watch it because Michael Knowles works
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And I don't trust Jordan Peterson or Ben Shapiro, or there's a couple of other weird underlings
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Matt Walsh, I think he could contribute some stuff.
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He went around and he's just, he's just been on, uh, Sean Ryan, which is Sean Ryan's another
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I mean, these are shows that I'll watch, but these are things like, I'm like, what, you
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Number one, you're not going to get anything interesting.
01:22:30.180
We couldn't get past go with Timothy Albarino, who I, I like his work, but I disagree with a lot
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And I mean, but I, I like the research and this is why it kind of bugged me.
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Cause I'm like, dude, you know, better than this, you should be coming at heart.
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I was like, some of his, his research contradicts or he contradicts his own research.
01:22:52.440
We argued with him for like an hour of our two and a half hour show.
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And then went on to go do the, but I mean, I think he conceded just to be like, shut the
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fuck up so that, you know, we can get of the show.
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But we're like, cause his, his whole thing is he's saying, uh, you know, he's great on
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He's great on these giants and the megalithic structures and all this stuff.
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And his contention is that aliens are outer space.
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Uh, like a couple, like a couple, like not demonic.
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He's like, if you think they're demonic, you're just stupid.
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I think your entire first body, like the first part of your body of work, where you're talking
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about Genesis six, where you're with these blurry creatures, guys who their entire show
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is about like similar to our show is based on this narrative.
01:23:44.180
Then you turn around and say, you know, like they, that's a breeding program.
01:23:48.780
They were breeding, but he also, that's why he can't admit that they were, uh, choosing
01:23:53.440
wives and they were raising children because this is, this is a breeding program.
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They might've not even been banging them with the genitalia.
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Who knows how this happened, but they took them as wives.
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If you admit that, then you have to draw that same logical conclusion to whatever these UFOs
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are, whatever the alien abduction narrative is, whatever the reproduction program that's
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And then from there, you'd say, looks a lot like Nephilim shit to me, dog.
01:24:23.540
But for some reason, whenever we brought it up to him, he kind of like, well, at first
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he called anybody who espouses that narrative stupid.
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And we were like, we espouse that narrative and here's why stupid.
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And we kind of like argued back and forth about it.
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He finally conceded probably just to move on with the conversation.
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You co-wrote like the intro to their new book of Enoch.
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And it feels like it's on purpose for whatever reason.
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And he also has this other weird thing that I don't like about.
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It's the, you know, the flood of Noah that it was local, but it was so devastating.
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Like it was basically, it was like a local flood on the earth, but it was huge, but it
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was so devastating that there was cataclysms all throughout the earth and that most people
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I'm like, that's an interesting theory, but the Bible says the earth was covered in war.
01:25:27.540
So there are a few people who, who, who take that.
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And so, yeah, I didn't know that he wasn't, I didn't know he was that hard in the paint
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I knew that he kind of poo-pooed it, but I didn't know he was like, it just seems like
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And when we highlighted that, and then we said, like, we're not saying that these things are
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inherently demons, but it seems to be that they are like machinations of it.
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You know, like, you know, demons are trapped in this other realm.
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I'm not saying that they're coming here and manifesting as little gray things, but there
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seems to be a very intricate way that these things are all connected because the rhymes
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And when we laid it all out for him, he was like, I guess I never thought of that.
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And I'm like, you never fucking thought of that?
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Like you go for an entire chapter and shit on people that think that it's like, you've
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We need more motherfuckers that dress like Indiana Jones.
01:26:40.160
I'm going to start dressing like Indiana Jones.
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What are you already dressed like an openly gay man?
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When you're coming at me with all this truth and then like you miss big on this thing,
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A lot of the work he did with Steve Quayle and, you know, Steve Quayle, he's hilarious.
01:27:06.840
I mean, and him and the work he did with Tom Horner.
01:27:09.780
I don't know if there was a divergence between the two, but yeah, some of the stuff he says
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about the fallen angels, I'm not really down with.
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You know what you were doing when you were 13 and I was like.
01:27:32.840
Well, that's, I think that has a lot to do with Kathleen Kennedy.
01:27:37.140
Because I think she was young when Spielberg and Lucas were bringing her up.
01:27:47.600
That's why she's trying to destroy everything they did with Indiana Jones and the Star Wars stuff.
01:27:55.020
But no, I agree that some of Albarino's conclusions, his research is great.
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And I was like, okay, I'm not going to agree with everybody, even if I like their research.
01:28:05.300
Like, you know, I've been on a few podcasts with Gary Wayne.
01:28:08.260
We don't have some of the same conclusions about a few things.
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But I'm cool with that because I'm like, look, dude, you have the good facts.
01:28:13.940
If you take those facts and come to a different conclusion, so be it.
01:28:16.280
As long as your facts are cool, I think people can just read your facts.
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And even though I didn't know he was going, like, as divergent as it sounds like.
01:28:25.740
He doesn't get very emotional about a lot of things.
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But aliens and demons are another one where he gets angry.
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And it's like, how could you get angry when the similarities are so profound?
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And when someone speaks the name of Jesus, they go away.
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That's not true because it doesn't happen all the time.
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Now, here's where, so before when we had him on the show, I was like, all right, we have
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some points of disagreement, but I really like the work he's doing.
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I enjoy some of the Blurry Creatures shows, although sometimes it's kind of boring.
01:29:07.900
They'll never mess with us, of course, because we say too many curses, but it doesn't matter.
01:29:13.380
My co-host for our other show, this guy, Clint Russell, who is, he was an atheist before
01:29:22.460
I've converted him to, at the very least, saying, he's like, there is a God, to the point
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looking into it on his own, picked up this book called Birthright and started listening
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And he came back to us and he was like, have you guys ever heard of this, this book?
01:29:39.660
I was like, but like, let him, you know, tell me more.
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And he was like, it's interesting because the guy says this.
01:29:45.000
And then he says at the end of the book, when he's talking about aliens, he basically says,
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And he's like, and I personally don't get it because it seems a lot like this guy himself
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He's involved in politics, like geopolitics, right?
01:30:01.520
Like, I like the whole Genesis narrative that he said, but then the alien thing seems like
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When you have people coming into the deep underground military bases, I mean, dude, that ties right
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So it's like, why are you skirting around the edges of all this?
01:30:20.160
You believe in everything around it, but you don't believe in the actual alien part.
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I honestly, I think what we should do, this is just a little bit of an aside, but like
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No, we should, we should, you know, in, in, we should list the, the many ways.
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Cause even that underground thing where, where, you know, I've heard people who are delivery
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Like literally like vendors for like food and shit have been told not to proclaim the name
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That was one of the things that this dude had to sign off on.
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And, um, and I've even heard stories of, of, from that same guy where he's like, and I
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swear to God, I know this sounds insane, but down one of the corridors, I got a glimpse
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of something that walked by that I can only describe as like an immense humanoid, a man,
01:31:14.120
And it's like the, the, the connections are never ending and whether or not they're anecdotal
01:31:17.860
was one thing, but I think we could whip up a whole episode, uh, that could go like two
01:31:22.020
hours long of all the different ways that this connects from one to the next.
01:31:25.440
But there's like, there's also a lot of testimony that says it doesn't work.
01:31:30.420
And that, that leaves the door open to like, well, you know, if you're being visited by
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like more physical entities, not demonic entities, but maybe even maybe people that are astral
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projecting using technology to abduct you or whatever, in some kind of way, if you tell
01:31:44.440
somebody that's robbing you in the name of Jesus, stop, you're probably still going to
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So yeah, I think that these techniques work on spiritual entities.
01:31:56.380
The question is, are they always spiritual in nature when you're, you know, when you're
01:32:01.920
being abducted, when you're being harassed by some type of a thing that you think is a
01:32:09.140
And the other question is, do you actually believe in Jesus when you say it, or are you
01:32:12.900
I wonder if there's different, there are different levels of power because Jesus said there were
01:32:17.520
He cast it out because they remember he cast, he cast out some demons.
01:32:20.100
And then I, I believe it was in the book of Mark where they say, you know, there were,
01:32:25.040
you know, we cast all some demons, but then some of them wouldn't come out.
01:32:27.820
And Jesus said, this one, this type only comes out through prayer and fasting.
01:32:30.620
I mean, you have to be like on lockdown and really be in a highly spiritual state, which
01:32:35.920
you know, fasting gets you to, because you know, you're, you're relying on God, you know,
01:32:40.880
So maybe some of them, maybe some of the weaker ones, you can just say Jesus, maybe some of
01:32:44.860
the stronger ones, you have to be a believer and say Jesus.
01:32:47.640
And then some of the more, you can have to like say Jesus and read some Bible verses
01:32:53.240
I also wonder if, if there's something to the idea that like you're talking about, you
01:32:57.120
know, the Bible talks about generational iniquity and it's like, these things can have rights
01:33:01.940
over your bloodline to a certain degree based off of whatever your predecessors did.
01:33:05.980
And maybe trying to get rid of them in that moment, isn't the right point of attack.
01:33:11.200
Maybe you need to be asking Jesus to free, you know, essentially your, your lineage from
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these bonds, because otherwise they have legal rights to be there.
01:33:22.320
I think the, sometimes I wonder how deep the legalese goes in all of this.
01:33:28.920
You want this thing to leave you alone in this moment, but this thing has had rights over
01:33:32.860
your family for X amount of generations and you got to address that because I've gotten
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quite a few questions about generational curses and how those are, are fair.
01:33:42.280
Why, why would I be suffering for something that my great, great, great grandmother or
01:33:48.460
And there are reasons, there's reasons behind it.
01:33:50.380
I don't want to, I don't want to just talk about it now because I know we're getting low
01:33:53.240
on time and I don't want to be flippant, but just understand that they don't have legal rights
01:34:00.940
That's been passed on to you, not directly from them, but even through the things that
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you've been told and things that you have in your unconscious mind that are strongholds
01:34:10.980
Not because they, when you were a baby, they zapped you with this curse, but because you
01:34:15.520
were raised by someone who was telling, let's say, for example, you, this is a benign example.
01:34:21.100
You grow up with someone who says, you know what?
01:34:24.280
You can't, you know, money is just for the rich and money is just for certain people.
01:34:27.680
And you grow up with that in your head and you wonder why, how come I never get any money?
01:34:30.940
Well, because unconsciously you've convinced yourself that you can never get it.
01:34:36.580
And so you see all these other people just rolling in and you're like, why can't I get
01:34:39.700
Well, because your unconscious mind is going to listen to you and say, okay, oh, we believe
01:34:48.720
And so that's where these, because blessings and cursings are words.
01:34:52.480
When God says you're blessed, he says, I'm speaking well of you.
01:34:59.440
Because the whole other thing, I don't want to, I don't want to get too deep into it because
01:35:03.600
Well, I was talking to my wife about that today and I was saying like, you know, that the
01:35:07.900
name of the game, when it comes to these things, it's like when you're, when you're a kid and
01:35:10.960
you see like the concept of demons, you see like this big grandiose thing.
01:35:13.880
If they're in cartoons or video games, it's like, you know, you always see the most hyper
01:35:17.280
sensationalized version of how a demon manifests and what it looks like and what it does.
01:35:20.920
But in reality, it's like, it doesn't want to be known that it exists.
01:35:24.940
And it really wants you to believe that its voice is you, right?
01:35:30.160
And so if you then like, let's say it's, you know, you're not worth anything.
01:35:35.700
If you believe that that voice is you, well, that's when all of that shit starts to actually
01:35:43.400
And the next thing you know, it's like, I don't believe that anybody is in history has
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ever killed themselves while not listening to that voice that actually is not theirs.
01:35:53.120
But once you believe that it is your voice, once you internalize that thing and you think
01:35:58.660
And so what you just said there about like internalizing that idea of like, oh, money's
01:36:06.140
Once you believe that in your own mind, then that's when your reality becomes that.
01:36:12.440
Like our friend just got fired from his job of 10 years for singing the Kanye West song,
01:36:21.360
Um, and yeah, basically, so whatever, we have, uh, all kinds of fundraisers going for
01:36:27.480
him and he's doing well, but he's like, oh, I'm just thinking about, and he's like, what
01:36:31.120
I had this job that I was like, you were in a job that you did and you hated for 10 years
01:36:39.480
But I'm like, it's a trap in your mind to think.
01:36:42.380
And it's, you've been told this by people that this is how I get money.
01:36:51.600
I know that's, it's like very vague, but it's different for everybody.
01:36:54.400
It's like, if you treat this as just a thing, another thing, you can get as much or as little
01:37:00.900
If you treat it as something that is unreachable, well, guess what?
01:37:08.280
They have to get you to internalize that narrative and believe that narrative.
01:37:12.840
And it does not work to their advantage for you to ever realize that that is not you.
01:37:18.800
Because that it's like one of the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing
01:37:24.980
But then the other way, he also does the other way around.
01:37:26.940
If you don't, he can also convince you that everything is him and that he's all powerful
01:37:31.480
and that he's causing everything when maybe you're causing it.
01:37:36.480
Maybe because you're a lot, maybe it's not Satan making you drink.
01:37:41.020
I'm just, you know, the devil, the devil made me drunk.
01:37:46.180
So thinking that he's too powerful and that you can't do anything about it.
01:37:48.920
That's another, you know, demoralization aspect of it, you know?
01:37:52.080
I think it's just different strokes for different folks.
01:37:55.240
Because some people are never going to believe that a demonic spiritual realm exists.
01:37:59.980
And so those people are really prime for believing that that internal monologue is strictly
01:38:06.440
And yeah, then you go the other way, which, oh, is a perfect segue to talk about my book
01:38:17.140
I'm going to, I'm getting the publishing going.
01:38:24.460
Yeah, I'm wrapping, I'm, I'm doing final edits today and I'm trying to start getting it
01:38:34.840
It'll be, so it's going to be my little season book.
01:38:38.240
That is, it's, it took a lot longer than I anticipated, which is why I haven't been as
01:38:47.980
And so that's why I haven't been as available because I, it, it, it's, it's intense doing
01:38:52.220
this level of research and just making sure it's, everything's right.
01:38:55.460
And, you know, I'm, I'm actually doing a debate, um, in a couple of days, friendly debate with
01:39:01.540
Then I'm going to be on a triple Sam's show, um, in a couple of weeks.
01:39:04.980
And so I want to make sure everything was that it was like ready to be published, um, for
01:39:08.740
that, because he had, um, what's the guy, uh, Paul, um, Paul stops.
01:39:14.000
And so I, so I, I'm, I'm going to be the counterpoint to that.
01:39:17.460
So, yeah, we were just on, we were just on as well.
01:39:20.140
And we kind of also, uh, uh, crapped on the, on the little season.
01:39:25.720
I hope you, um, I hope you listened to the one when it comes out that we were on, because
01:39:31.080
it's a big body of research that we've been, you know, kind of sleuthing through and we
01:39:38.680
Um, and I'd love to get your thoughts on it, but of course it's just too much for me to
01:39:44.340
You know, Sam, he's, he's got, uh, uh, he's as bad as we are with the interruptions and
01:39:48.960
the, you know, he seems to lean towards, uh, the little season narrative, I guess, cause
01:39:55.380
But I, I told him, I was like, listen, there's one thing that does kind of like put a nail
01:40:00.020
And I told him about like all the mountains being flattened, like geographically we would
01:40:06.200
But, you know, geographically this, it is pretty much the same as it's always been, except
01:40:10.660
for a couple of minor movements here and there.
01:40:16.580
But that's one point that I just kind of like teased with and he's like, oh, we got him coming
01:40:25.060
I've listened to a lot of the folks and I have a map in my book, um, that I got from the
01:40:36.200
A map of the earth back in like the third century BC that shows all the mountains, right?
01:40:48.700
I, I went deep with the research because I, everyone always says, you do more research.
01:40:52.600
I've got, you know, here, here, everything is laid out and, you know, and.
01:40:58.560
It's, it's not just to pick on the people who are, who, who believe it.
01:41:02.120
I, I understand why it's becoming more and more popular because, you know, there's, looks
01:41:07.180
like it's just people are trying to understand the world.
01:41:10.740
And on the surface, I can see how this makes sense, but once you go deeper, it completely
01:41:15.920
And so I just, I'm coming at it from the standpoint of look, I know why you believe
01:41:19.340
I understand the appeal of it, but you got to go past the surface.
01:41:23.360
It's the same thing where I said, like how the black community is, is, you know, we've
01:41:27.000
all been lied to so much and I really can't even, it seems like they've been the recipient
01:41:30.140
of a lot more egregious, you know, hidden history.
01:41:33.960
Um, and, and I don't blame them for, you know, you're just grasping at whatever looks
01:41:40.500
That's what happens when you've been lied to as much as, as, as we have.
01:41:46.740
So that's what I, you know, doing the booking out.
01:41:49.740
Um, you'll be on my patron for my, um, upper level patrons get it for, you know, as free
01:41:55.120
as part of the membership or discount for the next tier.
01:41:57.780
And then everyone else, you can feel free to buy it.
01:42:02.720
So you said next week, you think that is awesome.
01:42:06.240
It'll at least be on my website, my Patreon next week.
01:42:10.860
You know, it takes a little more time, um, to get there and, you know, be on all the
01:42:16.160
other Apple gum road and the rest of them, but it'll definitely be on faithbyreason.net
01:42:22.240
I can't wait for that episode of tinfoil hat and I can't wait for that book to get released.
01:42:27.820
I, I, I think it's going to be very well received.
01:42:30.280
Uh, the community that, uh, we're, we're developing here has grown so much in the past year.
01:42:36.720
And so I'm excited for everybody to, uh, to receive this, this work, everything that you're
01:42:42.380
I just want to say, um, we get like such tremendous feedback from, you know, we have an overlap
01:42:46.780
in, in fan base and, um, everybody unanimously tells us like your Patreon is a great tool.
01:42:52.240
We're offering, we don't, our Patreon, we're offering, you know, ad free experience and
01:42:58.440
And I feel like I say this to you so often, but it's, it is, uh, refreshing, you know,
01:43:04.040
you're, you're a friend of ours, you're a friend of the show.
01:43:06.600
Um, but you're also this really excellent source for information and this really excellent
01:43:13.080
This is another thing I love about you too, is like, these people are asking you questions
01:43:17.640
This is hugely beneficial for people that are trying to make sense of it.
01:43:20.960
And like we just said, everybody's been lied to.
01:43:23.300
Um, we need a lot more people like you, where the, where the question askers, uh, top
01:43:28.180
and I, um, we have a lot more questions than we have answers.
01:43:31.940
Uh, but it's refreshing to have somebody like you, uh, you know, who, who actually has these
01:43:36.600
answers and then also has the tools where you can, you can find these on your own.
01:43:39.760
So I appreciate a lot of those things because I have my lane.
01:43:42.740
My lane is like, you know, Bible prophecy and this kind of stuff and, you know, Genesis
01:43:46.320
and, but I'm, I, you guys, every time I come on the show, I learn new things about,
01:43:50.500
I didn't know about those, those two people being Messianic Jews.
01:43:53.900
I didn't, so there's a lot going, that's going on geopolitics that I'm not fully
01:43:57.800
aware of because I just don't take that deeper dive in it.
01:44:00.120
And I, when I go to, to the, um, to your Twitter and I love it because top just
01:44:09.680
Um, but you know, again, it, but it also lets me know, here's what's happening.
01:44:13.260
Here's what's here's, here's the zeitgeist that's going on.
01:44:19.260
It's just like a, it's a, I don't know, a finger on the pulse of the cultural
01:44:23.440
zeitgeist that's like, uh, not safe for work and, uh, but people seem to enjoy it.
01:44:28.500
I don't even know if the cultural zeitgeist is, I think it's just like the schizoverse
01:44:40.120
I know you got to go cause I actually, I have to go, but, um, so what do you guys think
01:44:52.920
Now, uh, uh, Ian Carroll, I, I don't know if he's really involved in anything.
01:44:57.860
He came out recently, had a little Kabbalah bracelet that really inflamed people.
01:45:01.600
I just know that if I was gifted one, I would probably wear it just to make people spiral.
01:45:07.940
Oh, we're doing, we're doing everything we can at this point.
01:45:11.720
We've been accused alongside of Sam Tripoli by somebody.
01:45:17.900
I'm a, I'm a gender inverted, uh, uh, you know, transsexual.
01:45:26.640
Um, we've been accused of being part of this, like Florida Illuminati, like all kinds of
01:45:31.920
And rather than try to, and I was explaining this to my wife the other day, rather than
01:45:37.600
If you do for your own sanity, it's best to turn it into comedy and to embrace it.
01:45:42.060
And so, um, you know, I recognize that that happens to us.
01:45:45.240
And then I look at Ian and I see it happening to him and I go, I wonder, I wonder if it,
01:45:49.940
I wonder if he is a fed or if he is not that different from us.
01:45:53.780
And he's just the recipient of schizo accusations.
01:45:59.760
He follows me, but I haven't had the opportunity to talk to like, if he came on this show,
01:46:04.260
I wouldn't grill him, but I'd be like, I'd ask him questions.
01:46:07.660
Like, I want to know, you know, what are you doing with the mustache, just the mustache
01:46:17.960
I like, I can't, I've never been able to grow a mustache anywhere near that.
01:46:24.640
I can't even, it's a 10 out of 10 mustache, but, uh, I, I like his research.
01:46:29.980
He's a little bit like more digestible for the normies.
01:46:33.680
Um, and honestly, I don't know, I don't focus on these people closely enough to know in
01:46:44.980
This is the thing that we were talking about with, uh, Joel Osteen and Kenneth Copeland.
01:46:49.100
It's like these guys, sometimes they are preaching a good message, but if you're following the
01:46:53.600
man and then you see him doing all this horrible stuff, getting pegged by his wife, it makes
01:46:59.520
I don't follow the man, Ian Carroll, but he had great information about all the, the
01:47:04.900
food, all the dyes that were poisonous in your shampoo.
01:47:08.480
He has good information about like even the telepathy tapes, which he stole some of our
01:47:15.320
He's just, I don't fucking know him, but, uh, he was talking about the Diddy stuff and
01:47:21.840
I was just, cause I've been following it cause I just don't care that much, but he had some
01:47:26.440
So that's why, and he was on the Candace Owens, he, he, he hosted her shows.
01:47:30.380
That's why, and they just came through my algorithm cause I was looking into what the
01:47:33.620
P Diddy testimony was and he came up and it's all interesting.
01:47:39.600
I didn't, you know, he's good, but it's like, again, with, with anybody, especially people
01:47:44.300
with huge platforms, like pay attention to what they say, do your own research and be
01:47:49.900
aware of the one lie that they're trying to feed you, you know, or the one it's not necessarily
01:47:54.280
even a lie, but like, even with this show, my, my agenda here is obviously to push towards
01:48:02.900
I'm going to push towards God and Jesus Christ, whether I say those names or not, that's going
01:48:19.220
We're constantly pushing towards that, but I don't know the definitive truth.
01:48:23.660
And it's up to you, the audience to decide, am I wrong when I'm wrong?
01:48:32.180
But I think that that is really the, the thing that gets misconstrued the most often.
01:48:43.600
And on the way to the truth, you're going to misstep a hundred times.
01:48:46.960
It's just up to the individual to decide whether or not.
01:48:49.220
That misstep was a misstep or if it was a purposeful deviation from the truth.
01:48:53.800
And I don't think that happens as much as people suspect it does.
01:48:57.320
Mainly because I've been accused of it to such a degree that I'm like, oh, okay.
01:49:03.540
Like you think that I was lying to you, but really I'm just retarded.
01:49:09.040
Uh, and I don't know, people need to leave more room in the conversation for retarded and
01:49:13.320
not, no one's responsible for what you believe, except you at the end of the day.
01:49:17.460
So you have to decide, you have to do your own research, like you said, top, and see
01:49:21.760
how it matches up with your worldview and what you believe, whatever your absolutes are.
01:49:26.400
My absolute, again, is, is the God of the Bible.
01:49:29.740
And if something is, is biblically neutral, okay.
01:49:33.720
If, but if somebody says something that contradicts it, I'm okay.
01:49:38.560
Well, that's a, I've heard, I've heard people say that about you and that you're doing this
01:49:42.220
and that, and then like, I've seen them bring up the instances I can't remember, but I know
01:49:45.840
specifically that the things they were talking about, I'm like, do you not remember that that
01:50:08.040
So I, but, um, to their credit spit schizo speculating is a lot of fun.
01:50:14.560
It's a lot of fun to be like, are they getting the Jew money?
01:50:23.480
These are all excellent things on our other show with it.
01:50:26.440
So our friend has a very big platform and he's like friends with Ian Carroll.
01:50:29.860
This is a ticker that we run constantly and he has no control over it.
01:50:33.980
And it has nothing to do with whatever we're talking about.
01:50:39.500
So you'll just see him look down and get sad as it goes.
01:50:46.320
So yeah, uh, I, I hope Ian Carroll, like everybody, I hope that he's doing the right thing.
01:50:51.720
And, uh, and if he hasn't yet, I hope that he comes to a place where he realizes that
01:50:55.600
Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life.
01:50:57.920
And you can't really fault anybody for not getting there yet.
01:51:06.700
There's, it's a journey and there's so many obstacles that are intentionally put in the
01:51:10.080
way by the world we live in that you have to, that you have to navigate.
01:51:17.320
You've come from when you started the show or your early in your career, where you are now.
01:51:23.760
Well, there's no such thing, but, you know, I, I admire someone who's willing to take
01:51:28.900
a journey and say, you know, I don't know everything.
01:51:32.220
I accept the fact that there is something about Jesus that's true.
01:51:36.900
And I'm, I'm just taking in information and for better or worse, he gets a lot of varying
01:51:42.120
And you know, you, you, you, so he has, he has a lot to wade through more than, you know,
01:51:46.260
most of us, cause people on the show all the time with these very divergent views, which
01:51:49.820
entertaining, but you have to also have to know when this is just, this is entertainment.
01:51:54.800
I can dismiss it versus, you know, I should take this seriously.
01:51:58.000
I think the other side of it too, is like, even among all those guests for all their wild
01:52:02.400
different places that they're coming from, I believe that everybody has a piece to contribute.
01:52:06.620
And it, you know, once again, it's like, you need discernment and you need to be able to
01:52:10.420
parse through, uh, what's a valid contribution, what is not, and, and then not fault an individual,
01:52:18.940
Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.
01:52:24.800
I'm trying real hard, but I don't know what I'm doing.
01:52:27.460
And, uh, I think that everybody needs to lead with that.
01:52:31.820
Don't be afraid to tell people that you're retarded.
01:52:38.740
Well, uh, it was really nice to catch up with you, Ed.
01:52:47.200
Cause I, cause I, I, I've got a ton of crap to do next week, but it definitely, if not
01:52:52.260
next week, then the week after, in fact, I'll, I'll schedule it.
01:52:56.440
Um, sooner than later, but yeah, there, well, where can everybody, uh, find your work
01:53:03.500
So, um, faithbyreason.net is, is the legacy site.
01:53:05.820
That's where, um, all my old material is throughout just through the summer, because
01:53:09.500
some of the stuff's going to be going behind a paywall, not because I want to restrict
01:53:12.880
things, but because I'm going to be doing additional books, um, using this material and I need to
01:53:20.340
That's necessarily wrong, but it, it needs to be more fleshed out.
01:53:23.840
And I'd rather put some of the stuff behind a paywall.
01:53:27.120
So people who I know are serious can get to it while I, you know, come up with a book
01:53:30.860
that does a deeper dive and gives a full understanding.
01:53:33.220
Cause I've been told that some of the things up there are a little too high concept and
01:53:40.140
Um, but, um, I'm guiding everyone to the Patreon, um, that, because that's where I'm
01:53:45.460
We saw where I'm answering questions and doing the Bible study and the Q and A's.
01:53:49.080
And again, that's where, um, uh, in addition to my, my regular site, the books that I'm
01:53:55.420
And as a patron, you'll get a discount or get it outright free.
01:53:59.980
If you're, um, uh, at the top level and yeah, you get bonus episodes and, and everything
01:54:08.120
And of course I'm out and we have the free feeds on YouTube, on X, on Instagram, um, Facebook.
01:54:13.820
So I'm putting all that stuff out there, but again, patrons get it first.
01:54:20.320
And I look forward to, to the, to the book coming out.
01:54:25.040
Hopefully I, I, I, if I don't get pushed, which I'm not going to even speak that into
01:54:28.840
his existence in a couple of weeks and I'll, you know, do my, uh, my speed, my, my counterpoint
01:54:35.060
to, to a Paul Stobbs, um, with the little season and she'll talk about my book there.
01:54:40.880
And yeah, and I've got, and I've got a bunch of other things lined up more folks.
01:54:44.400
Cause the little season thing is still popular.
01:54:46.180
It's not, I think it's growing, it's not going away.
01:54:48.300
And so quite a few folks want, want me to come on and talk about it and talk about the
01:54:54.540
I'm excited to, I'm excited to check it out and, uh, maybe, yeah, man, we'll, uh, we'll
01:55:01.420
Maybe Clint would be interested because Clint was interested in the little season and he
01:55:05.240
was like buying into that narrative and it's, it's, it's compelling, especially if you
01:55:09.240
don't know anything, but, uh, yeah, well, I'll see if he's interested in a, in a pushback
01:55:13.160
for it, but, uh, and Ed is fantastic at, at talking to the, uh, you know, the, the child
01:55:22.500
So hopefully, uh, I have candy corn with me at all times.
01:55:31.780
This is show you how, how retarded some of my friends are.
01:55:35.060
My buddy of mine was trying to come up with like some way to make money.
01:55:37.780
He, he wanted to do the retarded boxing league where he would just have retarded people box
01:55:42.920
And he's, I was like, how are you going to afford it?
01:55:50.960
And we'll see if you guys come up to 30%, we'll call it 30%.
01:56:09.240
Oh, we could have a toad be the guy who like, you know, speaks.
01:56:14.520
Well, now that guy who I'm now I'm going to get an email from that guy who keeps getting
01:56:23.840
Just send them our way and say, I know of a show that never says that.
01:56:30.920
Tell, tell the Nephilim death squad guys to stop using the word retard.
01:56:41.820
If he asked nicely, if tell him enough candy corn, I'll stop.
01:56:48.480
But man, I'm going to get so much luck from that guy.
01:56:51.920
And he's already, he's already furiously typing as we speak.
01:56:59.140
We're going to talk to you right after the show.
01:57:00.560
I know you got to run, but until next time, guys, don't forget to obey, submit and comply.
01:57:06.020
The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.
01:57:12.720
It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.
01:57:16.520
You can persuade us that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see.
01:57:22.340
Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's in it.