081: Addressing the Brain Damage: From Trump to Transcendence w⧸ John Lenhart & Ed Mabrie
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Summary
In this episode, we are joined by Ed Mabry and John Lenhart to discuss the importance of the "Intuitivist Driver" and how it can help you understand who you are and how you move through the world.
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We are being hypnotized by people like this. News readers, politicians. We are being hypnotized
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by people like this. News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and
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in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between what we're told
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is going on and what is really going on is absolutely evil. Oh yeah, dude. There's some
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Nephilim shit. It's like we all know it's going down. We know we're saying shit what happened
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to the home of the brave. Motherfuckers take control of this now. We know we're talking about
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how they made us try to be slaves. And everybody's just walking around.
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee
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Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven. That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation. And today we are
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joined once again by John Lenhart and Ed Mabry. Gentlemen, if you will, for the audience who may
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not be familiar with you, can you please introduce yourselves and let everybody know where they can
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find your work? We'll start with Ed Mabry. Sure. So yeah, Ed Mabry, I am a Christian researcher
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and truth seeker. My website is faithbyreason.net. You can find me there. I also have my YouTube
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channel and Rumble and I'm working on getting a sub stack going, see how that's going to work
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out where I know. Those are the two best places to find me. And also on X and Twitter, I'm posting
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there as well. But yeah, go to faithbyreason.net. Excellent. Excellent. And John, if you would.
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Yeah, I'm John Lenhart. I'm a modeler and I'm a consultant for FlowSess. So you can find a lot of
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my work there where we help people achieve flow. I do a lot of stuff on LinkedIn and I've written two
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books about God and there will be a documentary about me in 2025 and the struggles and the abuse
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I took for publishing that book. Excellent. 2025, a documentary. That's very cool. We were just
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talking before the show started. I did take the quiz and I turned out to be administrator server
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was my bag. So I highly recommend people go and check out that quiz because I think it does a great
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job of showing you. It shows you your strengths. And I think that people, once you have a deeper
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understanding of yourself, I think that informs how you move through the world in the future. So
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this is a great tool for that. I highly recommend. What was the name of that website, John?
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That's FlowSess.com. F-L-O-W-C-E-S-S. And the thing about the intangible driver is no one wants to be
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diagnosed by a psychologist because there's never a positive diagnosis. No one ever says,
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hey, Raven. Yeah, you go to the upper right and that click where it says unlock my intangible
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driver to the upper right. If you click that, it takes you right to the quiz. But no one ever says,
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hey, Raven, you know, you have what we call awesome man syndrome. You're very intelligent,
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very strong, and you're funny. People say that all the time to me, John. I don't know what you mean.
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But there's no positive diagnosis. You never get a positive diagnosis. But the intangible driver,
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it's not a personality test. It's who you truly are. So that's where you shouldn't be afraid of
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being diagnosed by it because it will tell you your strengths and how to bring that out. So you
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have more energy. And just to add on to that, I think what makes it different than all the other
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so-called personality tests like Myers-Briggs and all the other ones is that they tell you how you behave
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in a certain context, like at work or with your family. The flow, so the intangible driver tells you
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who you are, regardless of context. This is who you always are because we act different among our
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coworkers than we do with our family or our friends. But this tells you who you are all the
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time. And it's the first step in learning your uniqueness. And I can't recommend it highly enough
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because once you know that, you know what drives you. And not only will you know how to motivate
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yourself, but you can tell other people how to motivate you. For example, I'm a perceiver teacher.
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So I teach in order to get people to see what I see. So if you want to relate to me, then you say,
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hey, Ed, I see what you're saying. I'm like, yeah, that juices me up. You know, again,
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Raven and John are both administrators. They want to take a group of people and get them towards a
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goal. So you want to get John and Raven excited. Just tell them, hey, here's the goal I want to
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achieve. And I'll say, great, here's how we're going to achieve it. And if Topper takes a test,
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we'll be able to tell what he is and how to motivate him.
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Oh, my God. Look, there's two things I want to say on that. And then we'll get into the larger
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conversation at hand. But one of them is that when my wife comes to me with problems, I kind of think
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this is a guy thing, actually. I don't know if it's so much an administrator server thing. But
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when my wife comes to me with problems, I'm only learning now at 34 years old that women don't
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necessarily want advice and a game plan on how to tackle and overcome obstacles. But that's all I
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do. So if you come to me, she's like, I just want you to like, hug me and tell me it's going to be
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okay. Not give me a PowerPoint presentation on how we're going to get past this thing and the steps
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that we need to do it. But that's, that's what I do. And so I wonder if that plays into it. But
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John, you're going to be Johnny's John will take that on. He will. Oh, man, I we're going to do this
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again. Before we even get going, we're going to give guys keys to the kingdom again. Is that what we're
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going to do here? I look, I just think is one of the keys to the kingdom just like shutting up and
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rubbing backs because I think that that seems to be what they want. They don't want the PowerPoint
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presentation. I've tried. I'm like, I understand the obstacle here. Have you considered this angle
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and that angle? And eventually after the dust settle, she'll go like, uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
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And then like a week later, she'll be like, you know, all I really wanted was just to be told that
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it was going to be okay. And I'm like, well, I'm trying to tell you how it's going to be okay. I don't know if
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I don't think that's really what she wanted. And I'll tell you this is wild. We're going to do this
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before we get past the 30 minute marking. And so last time we talked about the communication
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guidelines and if you have a good or not bad cause to a woman, she'll open up. If you get a bad or
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worse cause, she'll shut down. So what I'm about to teach you is probably the most important thing to
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learn about women and men. Okay. Men are only able to have one thought at the same time.
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So what happens is, is if guy thinks of more than one thing, he thinks of this and he thinks of that
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and he thinks of this. Women can have up to five thoughts at the same time in a healthy manner.
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And the example I have, there's all this stuff. It's called the nucleus salus. That's what's
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focusing on it. And so people say the nucleus salus can only be focused on one thing. So a woman can't
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really do that. Years ago, this is like 30 years ago. I went to the museum of science in Toronto and
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they showed how your cell phone is off half the time. So what happens is, is you pick up a phone
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and the signal cuts out every half a second. So this, and then you pick up a phone and the
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signals cutting out every millisecond. So it sounded like this. So your, your signal on your
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cell phone is dropping out and coming back faster than the resolution of your ear. So that's why when
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you have, when you do a, a merge call or conference call, what it's doing is when it flips off of you,
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it's flipping off somebody else and back. And it can sound like two people. So a woman's nucleus
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salus does that. So if you get these women together and what I'll do is in front of a group,
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I'll have three women come up and I'll say, when I say go, I want all three of you to tell the story
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at the same time about lunch yesterday. One, two, three, go. They'll all three talk when they're done.
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All three of them can tell me what the other two said. Now the holidays are coming up. Us guys are going
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to walk into a room with a bunch of women, all going to be talking to you. You're going to walk
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in that room and go, cause there's nobody listening in this room. And if you try to stay in that room,
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your, your brain just going to just explode and you're going to walk out. Okay. So what happens
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is, is that women, I say, because they can have three thoughts, they think they can have four and
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they can't. And because they can have four, they think they can have five and they can. And because
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they have five, they think they can have six and they can't. Every time a woman melts and we say
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crashes, it's the sixth thought. So what we say, I've given the speech of professional women. I'll
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say, I have a guy that you can talk to once a day and he'll talk to you for 15 minutes. And when you
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call him up, you're going to tell him what you're thinking. He's not going to tell you what to do.
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And he's not going to solve any of your problems. He's going to talk until you file
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a thought away. And he's going to do that three times. And if he takes three thoughts off your
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plate every day, you will never crash again in your life. And before I can finish that sentence,
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they'll be like, what's his number? What happens is, is if a guy, every time he is at the end of the
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day, all you need to do with your wife is, is ask her, what are you thinking about? And she's going
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to go, I'm thinking about this. Let her talk. And she will file the thought away. She'll talk.
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And then she'll say, I should do this. And then she talks. I should do this. If you do that every
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day, she'll never crash. But when you walk in and your wife's just anxiety meltdown, it's because she
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has six thoughts. And when I say to guys is whose fault is that? It's your fault. We only have one
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thought. We're the mechanic. They have five thoughts. They're the race car driver. And what
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we do is we help them stay on the race course. Now we won't talk about this here because we want to
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get to our topic, but I will tell you everything you want to know about women and men and sex
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Let me ask you something, John. Is this why when somebody tries talking to me, like if I'm editing
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on the computer or if I'm like looking up something and I'm reading and you try talking to me, dude,
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I, I can't even hear you. I don't know what you're saying. I was doing all that stuff on the computer.
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I was, I was telling John, I was doing some SEO, uh, like marketing things. And my daughter was there
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and just her presence. I was like, I'm just going to be honest with you. Completely distracting. I don't
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know what I'm doing anymore right now, just because you're standing there. She's, I can't,
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I cannot split my attention. I'm super focused on one thing.
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What I do in a room, I love to do this in a classroom because every, all the problems between
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men and women is women think we have five thoughts and we don't. And men think they only have that.
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Yes. Yes. This is every problem. We are each other. Yes. So when I go to a classroom, like a high
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school kids and, and I'm talking to the guys and the girls in the class, and I'll say to the guys in front of
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the girls, if you're watching a football game and a woman walks in the room and starts talking to you
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about another thing and you have the choice. Now you have to make the choice. Do I keep watching
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the football game or do I listen to her? What do you get a pick? And every guy's football game and
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all the girls in the class, like, are you kidding me? It's like you women could do that. Like the thing
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is, is when you're in a classroom and the guy isn't, the boy isn't looking at you, he is not listening.
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When you're in a classroom and the girl isn't looking at you, she's listening. And so that's
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the thing you got to realize is girls do this and they get mad. But what happens is, and I,
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I coach executive women because a woman in flow is undefeated us in order to flow. You got to get
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down to one thought and give up control. So all of us guys are sitting ready for flow. The women got to
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learn to get down to one thought in order to flow. But when a woman gets in flow, she can use these
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other four thoughts to totally distract the man. So I love coaching women and this is how they become
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CEOs. The reason why women don't become CEOs is when you first hire a woman for a job and she does tasks
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and you hire a man, when you hire a woman, you're getting five men. So who's going to do better?
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These women are going to rise. And when the women rise to a position where they can become
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a manager, they continue to try to be five managers. And now they have six thoughts. They are
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blocking themselves. I help women over that because every guy who's in charge of a company,
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when you talk to anybody about the guy who's in charge of the company, women, men, they'll all say,
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you know, I think half the time, this guy doesn't even know what he's thinking and what he's doing.
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He's not because in flow, half the time you're given over to the unconscious, you're not
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focused. So you got to learn how to flow. Women, if they would learn how to flow and this is I've
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offered this to like Melinda Gates, I've offered this on LinkedIn to all these women said,
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you want to stop sexism, you want to help women achieve, teach them how to flow. And then every company
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will be at a disadvantage if they don't hire put a woman in charge. And that's how I dissolve
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problems, which is another topic we never got to the first time. And maybe we'll get to at the end
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of this, but I don't solve problems. I dissolve them. And that's really how you would achieve that
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with women. So if you teach women to flow, that would be totally undefeated, but that's the problem.
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The other thing is, is women don't want to have sex until they're down to one thought.
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So if you know how to get a woman down to one thought, the other thing is, is in order to sleep,
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you got to be down to one thought. So us guys don't have problems sleeping.
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What I say to women is this, there's two ways for you to sleep.
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One is, is you could write down all your thoughts before you go to bed and get down to one thought,
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or you can try to think of everything all night long until you get so physically exhaustive after
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three hours that you're only able to have one thought and then you fall asleep. So the choice
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is up to you women. You know, uh, the, the last thing I'll say on that is just to your point about,
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um, you know, guys only being able to focus on one thing at a time and the game. Uh, the other night
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I ordered the John Jones versus Stipe Miocic fight. And, um, I don't typically order UFC fights,
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but this is a big one. So I went ahead and did that. And, uh, it turns out that during it,
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which I had waited all that time for the main event to start, as soon as the main event started,
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a tow truck pulled up outside and towed my car ends up being for something really stupid. And I was
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able to get it back. No problem. But I did not get it back until after the fight, my wife came in and
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said that the, the, the, the car was getting towed. I looked over to her and I went and then I looked
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right back at the screen and continued watching the fight. And then once the fight was over, I was
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like, okay, let's address the car. I cannot, I think that was more, uh, indicative of how much
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the pay-per-views costs. No, it's, it's smart. It's, it's compartmentalization. Like I know that a
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tow truck comes, he, and once he, once he starts getting my car on, I can, I can shoot him or I can go to
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the spot that he's going to bring my car. And it's like, I'm going to go to jail now, or I'm going to
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watch the, I'm going to watch the rest of this fight and I'm going to deal with this after.
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Exactly. And I started asking questions. She's like, um, I'm like, is there any benefit to going and
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picking it up right now at two in the morning? Or can this wait until, and she's like, he's going to
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shave off like 50 bucks if we go and get it now. And I said, okay, well the fight will be over kind of
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soon. So we saved our $50 and we got our car. But yeah, I mean, when I was a kid, I thought my dad was
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out of his mind. I would try to talk to him when I would see him, if he was watching the game or
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something. And it was like, he couldn't hear me. So I want to make one point that's going to lead
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into what we're talking about, because the thing is, is when, when women in a business setting talk
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to a man who's in charge, is he really listening to her? No. Is it because she's a woman and he's
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trying to keep her down? No. It's that he's physically unable to think what he's thinking
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and listen to her. So when I coach women, I teach him techniques to get him to focus on her and then
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he'll listen to her. So there's a lot of misplaced animosity between men and women in business,
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because what happens is the women go, see, these men are against us. And it's like, no,
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these men are not as smart as you women. And if you've, you've got to take the extra step to get
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him locked in so that he can listen to you versus, you know, projecting on him that he's, he's doing
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this wrong thing. And I think when we're going to talk about Trump, it's kind of the same thing.
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It's like, if you really understand him, he's not intentionally trying to be crazy.
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Right. This is the bridge. This is what, so as you're saying this about woman, I am,
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I've been, uh, having, uh, having a thought for the last eight years that there is like a feminine
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and a masculine and the people that are of this masculine mindset kind of, kind of understand
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that Trump is doing something, you know, I mean, putting, putting aside, uh, if he's the Antichrist
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or not, I see him as a guy that is, he's a guy that is doing something and I, I can relate.
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And the people who are, uh, like losing their mind over him, it's a very, like, it's a very
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feminine aspect about them. And it's, it's men as well. And I'm like, why are they so mad at this
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guy? When this guy seems to be like doing something, they don't like that. He's doing
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something. They're offended by how he's doing it. But for me, it just seems normal. Like it seems
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like the way you'd go about it. This is what we talked about when we were on Liberty Lockdown
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with, uh, Robbie, the fire. One of the things that I think really sticks out about these meltdown
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videos is they're never addressing a specific issue. It's just vague isms, right? Of five
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different things. He's sexist. He's homophobic. He's evil. He's bad. And it's like, well, example,
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please. Some, some, some sort of example would be appreciated. Then we can dive into that and
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see if maybe there's a misinterpretation issue or maybe you are right, but we have no idea
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if you're right or wrong because all of these things are emotionally driven and have no bearing
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in an actual reality, actual events that took place. They're not worried about that. And what's,
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what's fascinating to me is that these complaints are so amorphous, but the meltdown that people are
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having about these amorphous ideas are, is so real. I mean, I saw something recently, an article came out
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and I don't know how true it was, but it said something to the effect of 2000 people have
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committed suicide since Donald Trump was, and this was days after he was announced. And I'm going
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outside, you know, I live in Florida. It's beautiful. The weather's beautiful. The birds
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are chirping. There's work to be done. You know, there's a job that you have. There's shopping and,
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you know, relationships and all these different things. An entire life awaits you right outside the
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doors and you're opting out because, well, I can only gather that you, you think it's the end of
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the world. And what a fascinating thing because, you know, we have our ideas about what might come,
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but right now it's still beautiful out and these people aren't here anymore. And I, so despite the
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fact that these complaints don't have any concrete, you know, uh, feet in the real world, it does not
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stop them from really feeling this and really going through this. And it's, it's insane.
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So which way do you want to go with this? Because you just, you brought up the suicide thing,
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which I think is huge. You know, I could explain to you why they're committing suicide or do you want
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to go after the Trump thing? Yeah, I think that would be a great thing to, to get into because,
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um, look, I'm not going to lie. I'm, I'm rough around the edges and there's a part of me that
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can see the humor in it. But at the end of the day, uh, it is, it's horrifying, right? You left,
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you left your family, you left your loved ones, you left all these. And, and for what? I mean,
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man, if I, even if I decided that I was the type of person that was going to pull the plug on myself,
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I'd wait till the army was at my door. If I was going to do that, you know what I mean? And,
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and right now, like I said, there's no, there's nothing. It's beautiful. What are we doing?
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Yeah. So last in the last episode, I talked about this documentary that's being made about me and,
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and the story that I went through. And part of the story is, and there's a trailer that's going
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to be coming out here in, in another, you know, a couple of weeks, it's getting color corrected.
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And one of the things that happened is a pastor wanted to kill himself and he was sent to me.
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And I, everybody, first of all, everybody who wants to kill themselves does it because they
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confuse who they are with what they have and what they do. And so they think I'm never going to get
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to have, or do this thing. What's the point of living? They take the intangible driver test and
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they understand who they are. And now they see that have and do can come out a couple of ways. So
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I have helped a ton of people. And that's part of my story is that when this pastor didn't kill
00:22:09.600
himself, the people who were attacking me attacked that pastor's church for not killing himself.
00:22:15.700
That's how crazy the story got. Okay. So when I go into a classroom, cause this is a big thing.
00:22:22.180
And I, I deal with all, you know, elementary, middle school and, and high school, and I don't
00:22:26.500
want to see these kids kill himself. So the first day I walk into the classroom, I tell this story.
00:22:32.260
I say, when you are feeling tension, when something happens and you start getting tense,
00:22:39.660
your body produces oxytocin. Do you think that chemical makes you more tense, less tense,
00:22:52.440
I mean, just based off of the, the oxy aspect, I would say less, less tense.
00:22:59.960
I was going to, I was going to say that your body is probably more tense, but it's masking it.
00:23:03.180
So your oxytocin makes you feel more tense and the kids in the classroom go. And I say, so why does
00:23:11.400
your body produce a chemical to make you feel more tense when you experience tension? And the reason
00:23:19.340
is it's trying, what's that? Is it perceiving danger? It's trying to drive you to do the thing
00:23:26.300
that will release the tension. And that is share with somebody else.
00:23:33.400
So when you talk to somebody else, then your body releases the tension. If you don't talk to
00:23:42.200
somebody else, then your body increases the oxytocin, you feel more tension. And then if you
00:23:48.740
isolate, your body increases the tension. And then all of a sudden you have so much tension
00:23:54.420
and there's no way out and then you kill yourself. And I'm going to revisit that in a second. But what
00:23:59.460
I say to these kids is if you're quick to share, then your body doesn't ramp you up and it learns
00:24:08.400
not to ramp you up. So what happens is, is I want every kid to know the very first day I walk in the
00:24:14.440
class, when you feel tense, be quick to share with somebody that you're tense. Now here's the second
00:24:20.380
part of the suicide thing. And this is going to play into the Trump thing. Our brain, when we,
00:24:28.500
when we are thinking, one part of our brain wants to prove our point. I've got a point to prove Trump's
00:24:35.920
the Antichrist. I'm going to prove this point. And one part of our brain assesses the truth.
00:24:41.060
The second part of our brain does not work until the first part. We release it. We relax it.
00:24:50.560
So if you're arguing with somebody, you want to do what I call a weed killer. You want to agree with
00:24:57.080
what they're saying. Trump's the Antichrist. Sounds great. Why do you think that? That's awesome.
00:25:02.280
Then you'll release it. Then I'll give you my reasons why he's not, and you'll believe it. But if I,
00:25:07.240
if you're in this first part and I argue with you, you know, I have this video, how to argue
00:25:13.560
in three questions and I can argue with anybody and they'll never become an argument because I
00:25:18.360
understand how the brain works. So if you keep arguing with somebody who's in that first part
00:25:21.820
of the brain. So when people jump off a bridge and they survive, the first thing they said when
00:25:30.200
they interview them, they say, what was, what happened as soon as you jumped? As soon as I jumped off the
00:25:33.780
bridge, my first thought in my head is I wish I hadn't done this. The second thought in their head
00:25:40.580
is my problem wasn't that bad. So I'm isolating. I feel all this tension. There's no way out. There's
00:25:49.460
no way out. First part of my brain. There's no way out. There's no way out. There's no way out.
00:25:53.520
And when I jump, I release the first part. And then the second part kicks in and I go,
00:25:57.880
Oh, well, the truth is it wasn't really that bad. That wasn't a bad problem. So that's why when
00:26:04.460
people kill themselves, they're feeling tension, they isolate, and then they feel like there's no
00:26:10.520
way out and they only have one way to release it. But if they had been sharing, their body would
00:26:16.980
release it. That's why they give you the line, talk to somebody. Here's the hotline, talk to somebody.
00:26:22.240
And what will happen is, is it'll release the tension. Now, if you want to dissolve the problem
00:26:27.600
so that someone never wants to think of suicide again, it's the intangible driver quiz. And that's
00:26:33.340
what I found. Every person that I've worked with who's thought of suicide or attempted suicide,
00:26:38.860
after they get their intangible driver, they never think of it again.
00:26:42.960
And I want to bring something up because a conversation that I had with a female friend of
00:26:48.060
who's very intelligent, postgraduate work, she's really smart. But she was against Trump. She
00:26:55.900
was wanting Kamala to win. And so she just texts me out of the blue and says, you know, how do you
00:27:00.760
feel about Trump winning as a Black man and as a Christian? And I was like, that's an interesting
00:27:06.920
question. But what I just told her. Insinuating that you should.
00:27:10.560
Right. Exactly. So I didn't take the bait. And I was logical, which we men are. And I said,
00:27:16.020
well, here's the problem. I think she was a bad candidate and they ran a bad campaign.
00:27:21.080
And the reason that she didn't win is because if you want to win any election, I'm a strategist.
00:27:25.840
That's what I do. I've been doing this for 20 years. I look at things strategically without
00:27:30.380
emotion. And strategically, if you want to win the presidency, you need to focus on three things,
00:27:36.660
the economy, national security, and a vision for the future. Every successful president has done that
00:27:42.840
better than his or her opponent. If you don't do that well, you're going to fail. Trump, whether
00:27:47.420
you like him or not, he gave his, he focused on the economy. He focused on national security with
00:27:53.120
the border. And he gave his vision, make America great again. Kamala did not do any of those things.
00:27:58.980
Either she didn't do them or she didn't do them well. She focused on the only thing she had was
00:28:03.160
abortion. Yeah, she did. And so, right. I mean, yeah. Yeah. And if you look at the top of the polls,
00:28:09.120
abortion was either five or eight on the list of things Americans cared about. So you're not
00:28:13.120
going to win focusing on number five or number eight. Her response to me was, it's racism and
00:28:17.400
sexism. And I was like, no, Obama was elected twice. So I was being logical. And then I did,
00:28:21.780
finally, I just didn't do it at first. I finally did what John said. I did the weed killer. I said,
00:28:24.920
okay, I will grant you that, of course, America is absolutely indelibly, inherently racist and sexist.
00:28:35.060
So that's the weed killer. I'm going to go with you. I'm going to agree with you.
00:28:38.460
Because a weed killer doesn't kill the weed. It fertilizes it. There's five parts of a weed
00:28:45.080
that have to grow together. And what these weed killers like Roundup did is it fertilized three
00:28:51.340
parts of the weed to grow faster than the rest of the weed can keep up. So it died from too much
00:28:57.160
growth. So I call that weed killer. When I argue with someone, I agree with them. And I expand,
00:29:02.580
I say, now take your argument forward. And it dies of its own volition. So I want to,
00:29:09.740
I want to, everything that's been said is all in effect. What you guys said about Trump,
00:29:14.780
you know, Top and Raven, and what Ed said are all effects. I want to show you what I do that's
00:29:20.320
different. It's called synthesis systems thinking. And I'm going to dissolve this problem. So I'm going
00:29:25.260
to show you the whole Trump thing by taking a gigantic step backwards and dealing with the
00:29:30.260
intangible cause. Before you do that, I just want to say to your point, you know, there's, there is
00:29:36.740
this isolation issue. You're saying that essentially oversharing is what you should be doing. Yes. And
00:29:44.000
there are a lot of people, especially the ones who are screaming online. Oftentimes they're women
00:29:50.600
that are, we just did an episode with someone named Mama Shah. And she used to be a occultist.
00:29:59.560
She was in a coven and she came to Jesus Christ. And her story is fascinating. But one of the things
00:30:07.900
she said was that when she was in the height of this coven, you know, this involvement with dark
00:30:14.660
identities, she was liberal, she was obese, she was lesbian, and she moved away from all of that.
00:30:25.220
But it's just funny how these things, I think there's something that happens in particular to
00:30:32.540
women, if they are isolated, and if they are not sharing their thoughts around people who they trust.
00:30:38.140
And then what's worse is if they're in an echo chamber that is, you know, bouncing this idea of
00:30:45.000
doom and gloom, you know, racism, sexism, all this stuff back at them, it becomes a feedback loop.
00:30:52.280
And I think that the isolation, or the sharing part, it's hard to share, you know, you try to
00:30:58.860
share something on Twitter, and, and I'm guilty of myself, Twitter is such a volatile place that I
00:31:03.240
almost look at it as a sparring ground. You know, I say if you want nuance, and such, you come to this
00:31:11.600
show. But if you want me to drag you on the internet, then just say something ridiculous to me on Twitter,
00:31:17.560
and I'll do that. Recently, I tried to great lengths to have the place for it, man. Yeah, and it literally
00:31:25.640
it was a 72. Instead, he got me doxxed. I got a doxxed and it was a 72 hour thing of people just no matter
00:31:32.680
how reasonable I was. And so I do think that that's certain platforms just are tainted in the way that they
00:31:37.720
are. But imagine being one of these people, you come and you express this sentiment. And then the only
00:31:43.820
people that reciprocate to you are your echo chamber. And the other people who have a different opinion
00:31:47.980
from you, they just tear you apart. But there's also there's something to say about that. So again, it all kind of
00:31:52.620
points back to Trump. So 2016, he won that election basically using Twitter. And it's the way he used it. And I
00:31:58.760
emulate his style because it's very much punch you in the face. He's going to give you two lines. When Trump is
00:32:04.180
actually writing, he's going to say, these people can't help the fact that they were born effed up. Send tweet. I've
00:32:11.180
never seen a fat person. I've never seen a skinny person drinking Diet Coke. Send tweet hilarious, punch you in the
00:32:18.180
face, right to the point, there's not much nuance to it. But it's like a broad statement that a lot of people have an opinion
00:32:23.960
about. And that's how you win on that platform. On this platform, when you're talking with people,
00:32:29.260
like verbally, it's a lot different. I have to be a lot more nuanced with my words and use words that
00:32:35.520
I wouldn't ever use on Twitter. So right, right. And I think that that does it speaks to that, though,
00:32:41.380
like the in the extreme versions of people's meltdowns, you can identify them accurately as
00:32:47.880
being isolated, being in an echo chamber, you know, I think the isolation is
00:32:53.840
your thoughts can spiral. So a woman has five thoughts. So her brain's five times faster than a
00:33:02.520
guy. So two things, she's going to get five times farther than her thoughts than a guy will. Second
00:33:08.080
of all, every thought in your brain is half fact, half emotion. I like to say, I say vanilla ice cream,
00:33:16.100
I say dog crap, you have two different emotions, when you think of those two different words. So
00:33:21.960
women aren't more emotional than men, women experience five times more emotions than men,
00:33:30.660
because they've experienced five times more thoughts. So they experience a wider range of
00:33:34.640
emotions. So if a woman isolates, she's going to experience a wider range of emotions a lot quicker.
00:33:39.440
And there's more of a chance for that to get out of out of control. So that's what's going on there.
00:33:44.940
But are you guys ready to do this Trump thing? Yeah, no, I'm excited to get into it.
00:33:51.600
Okay, so we're going to take a big step back, because everything should be done through this
00:33:55.440
framework. And everything you guys have said are going to make all sense in the world when we
00:33:59.880
understand this. So there was a there was a test done in 2004. And basically, they took Kerry and Bush
00:34:08.760
were running for president. And they took two clips of Kerry, they kind of doctored one of them.
00:34:14.980
And they took two clips of Bush, and they kind of doctored one of them. And they basically had
00:34:19.100
Kerry saying one thing, and then saying the exact opposite. And they had Bush saying one thing,
00:34:25.320
and they had him saying the exact opposite. So they took a Bush, a bunch of Bush supporters,
00:34:30.920
and a bunch of Kerry supporters, and they had them watch all four clips.
00:34:33.760
And all the Kerry supporters, when they watched the Bush clips, and all the Bush supporters,
00:34:40.800
when they watched the Kerry clips said, that guy's lying, that guy contradicted himself.
00:34:47.560
Okay. Now they had them under MRI imaging. So they're looking at these people's brains.
00:34:54.800
And these are hardcore supporters. Every Kerry person, when he looked at the Kerry, she looked at the
00:35:02.680
Kerry thing, clips, and every Bush supporter looking at the Bush clips, said he didn't contradict
00:35:09.500
himself. Now, when you look in the brain, there's a part of the brain called the anterior cingulate
00:35:16.080
that detects contradictions. That part lit up when they looked at the opponent. That part did not light up
00:35:27.160
when they looked at their own clips, their own supporter. And the part of the brain that rewards
00:35:37.880
you for looking for a contradiction, lit up. So what you have is you have people looking at their
00:35:46.320
candidate, looking at a contradiction, and the part of their brain that detects the contradiction
00:35:53.600
literally stops working. And the part of the brain that said, I did look for a contradiction,
00:35:59.540
lit up. So they are convinced that they did look for a contradiction.
00:36:12.680
So, you know, there's three areas of life where we do the most brain damage to ourself. Because what's
00:36:21.040
happening is, remember, 10% of your brain is conscious brain, 90% is unconscious. You are leading your
00:36:27.080
unconscious through who you are, through your conscious brain. So when you start teaching your
00:36:32.900
unconscious, I don't want to see Bush contradictory clips, it makes me mad. Your unconscious part of
00:36:40.860
your brain goes, well, we can just shut that down. Religion, politics, and sports. Those are the
00:36:49.160
three areas where we all damage ourself. We look at what we want to see. Our basketball team,
00:36:59.900
our football team, got a bad call. And then the same call happens for us. And we think that's fine.
00:37:08.220
And we are damaging our unconscious. We are no longer able to detect truth in a certain area of
00:37:15.520
our life. So when you talked about this format and nuance, you're talking truth. So we're all trying to
00:37:23.140
embrace truth here. So what's happened is, these people have damaged their brain relative to Trump.
00:37:33.820
Then, when they feel tension, they don't want to feel tension. Someone points something out,
00:37:40.500
or they're going to lose, they start screaming. But here's the big difference. If you look at all
00:37:45.660
these clips, the liberals are fighting for other people. The conservatives are fighting for themselves.
00:37:59.240
So I'll tell you another quick story. When I was in the consumer products field,
00:38:03.460
we used to do all these focus groups. So we would invite all these people into a room with a one-way
00:38:09.360
mirror, and we'd give them $50 or a gift basket full of stuff. And we'd say, hey, we're going to show
00:38:15.200
you this detergent, and we want to know what you think of it. So we put this new detergent up idea,
00:38:21.760
and it's going to do these things. And we'd go around the room and go, what do you think?
00:38:25.720
And inevitably, someone in the room would say, well, I don't think people are going to understand that.
00:38:32.920
And a good moderator goes, ma'am, other people are not in this room. You are in this room.
00:38:42.420
We are not paying other people to give their opinion. We're paying you to give your opinion
00:38:48.800
about you. Do you understand this? And that's how a lot of, like, you get a bad moderator,
00:38:56.100
you can introduce a product or do something with a product that makes no sense. And when you go back
00:39:00.940
through, and I was at several different companies, and a couple of companies, I had to warn them. I'm
00:39:05.320
like, what are you guys doing? This is why you guys have had failures, is when you do a focus group,
00:39:09.540
you didn't bring these people in to tell you what other people think. Like, when you survey people
00:39:14.300
go, who's going to win the election? And everybody goes, Kamala is going to win it. 60% of people
00:39:18.720
think Kamala is going to win it. Who are you voting for? Oh, well, 53%, they're going to vote for Trump.
00:39:23.400
But some of the Trump people think it's rigged. And what question did you ask? So when you look at
00:39:28.740
all these people, they're all upset over other people. And some of these people even said, I'll be
00:39:35.540
fine. But I'm concerned with these, you know, Latinos, I'm concerned with these other people
00:39:41.800
who are losing all of their, you know, rights. And then people say, well, those people actually
00:39:48.640
voted for Trump. Like the people you're concerned about, aren't voting the way you think. And so
00:39:54.880
what's happening is, is these people are really a step away from reality. And they're very emotional.
00:40:01.220
And they think I'm a good person, because I'm going to save these other people, because I'm not going
00:40:05.980
to work on myself. So a lot of times there's addicts out there who spend all their time embracing
00:40:12.360
their addictions and helping other people fight them. Why? I can't overcome my addiction, but I'm
00:40:18.020
going to make up for it by helping you overcome yours. And I like to tell those people, how can you
00:40:22.840
give something you don't have? How can you help somebody achieve something you can achieve? So a lot
00:40:29.000
of the people on the left are not, both sides are brain damaged. Okay. And I'm going to talk about
00:40:36.160
that eventually. I'm going to really throw you guys, I think, because I'm older than you and
00:40:40.900
there's something everybody's forgetting. Okay. But what happens is, is both sides are brain damaged in
00:40:45.640
the same way. But the thing is, is that the right is trying to achieve things for themselves. The left is
00:40:54.960
trying to achieve things for other people. And then when they don't get to help other people, because they
00:41:00.460
haven't helped themselves, then they start getting violent.
00:41:03.880
I want to just jump in and real quick, because I want to give a great example of this, because one of the
00:41:09.720
things I've been seeing a lot is the celebrities and people talking about how the celebrities failed
00:41:13.260
Kamala, they didn't move the needle. When you listen to them, they, they're not suffering from
00:41:17.860
inflation. You know, Beyonce and Jay-Z don't, they aren't worried about inflation, all this, but
00:41:22.140
they're worried. They say, well, it's about other people, you know, and, and they're, so they aren't
00:41:27.360
focused on themselves. They're saying that I'm trying to make the world better for others.
00:41:31.440
There was this actress, Rachel Zegler. She is going to be, I guess, on this Snow White movie.
00:41:36.780
And she got into a lot of controversy because she put this tweet out after Trump won. And what she said
00:41:42.980
in her tweet, she says, I feel bad for my daughter. My daughter is never, is going to have all of her
00:41:49.800
rights taken away. Rachel Zegler doesn't have a daughter. She is not a, just like John said,
00:41:57.360
she's not upset for herself. She, she, it makes her feel better to be upset for other people.
00:42:02.440
Right. And that, that justifies why they, that justifies the brain damage. Like, like John was
00:42:07.900
saying, these people, they're damaged, but they want to make themselves feel better by saying that
00:42:12.780
I'm not doing this for me. I'm doing it for other people, even if they don't exist.
00:42:15.940
Can I, I want to share something that I think rhymes with that the way in which I'm brain damaged
00:42:21.960
is that when I was younger, I, so I've been a conspiracy theorist since 16 years old, really
00:42:29.060
took off when I was 17. I don't think that there's a coincidence. I've come to a place now where I
00:42:34.640
share the information that I've gathered all over these years and, uh, people find it interesting.
00:42:39.500
And so I can make a show out of it. Uh, it was not always constructive at all. In fact, I suspect,
00:42:46.720
and I've said this out loud to other people that my taking to conspiracy theories was a way of
00:42:53.080
addressing the world's problems instead of addressing my own problems. And I don't think
00:42:57.020
that it's coincidental that at the height of my delving into conspiracy theories as a young man,
00:43:03.020
I was also homeless. It's much easier to research conspiracy theories and espouse them to strangers
00:43:11.000
than it is to get a job and to hold one and to pay for an apartment. And so there was a lot of
00:43:18.140
things that were in disarray in my life. And I decided to outsource that anxiety and attribute it
00:43:23.200
to something else that, uh, I guess was a little bit less painful to look at, which is hilarious because
00:43:29.220
it's like, I can look at the world, uh, burning in, in so many ways, but, uh, it's easier to look
00:43:34.800
at that than it is to address it myself. But I do think that there is, that's probably the bulk of
00:43:39.380
people, right. That are, that we're describing right now in this particular instance with Trump.
00:43:44.280
I do think there is room on the table for a discussion about people who align themselves
00:43:48.400
with people that they perceive as potential victims, not necessarily because they actually care,
00:43:54.680
but they see that there's a reciprocity from certain groups. In other words,
00:43:58.960
if I champion someone who I deem weaker and say, well, what about these people? Well, it's the same
00:44:07.220
thing, uh, similar to those who like the attention when they get sick. You know what I mean? Like,
00:44:13.740
like I recognize when I was little that people behave a certain way to you when you're sick
00:44:18.860
and they sometimes give you a disproportionate amount of affection because of that perceived sickness.
00:44:25.340
And I actually didn't like that. I realized that it was, it was unbalanced. And so I, I started to
00:44:32.000
pull myself away from that. And then I became kind of this person who was, if I was sick, I kept it to
00:44:36.240
myself kind of a deal, you know, but there was another type of person that latches onto that and
00:44:39.920
they like the attention they get for being sick. I think there is a person that likes the attention
00:44:43.880
from being a perceived hero of the downtrodden, more or less.
00:44:47.920
John, I know you want to go, I'm going to let you, I want to bring this in, um, before I let you go
00:44:54.300
on that. And that is the, understand that the intangible drivers John was talking about, you
00:44:59.180
know, perceiver, teacher, compassion, server, giver, administrator, so forth. That's not just for
00:45:05.000
people. They're also groups and countries and, and, and organizations that also have an intangible
00:45:12.240
driver and that organization, that group also generally, um, acts that certain way. The Democrats
00:45:19.560
or liberals, they have an intangible driver. It's perceiver compassion. So again, your, your how is
00:45:27.660
the second one. That's how you behave. That's how people, that's what people see. And the first one
00:45:32.660
is what you want. Perceiver, they want you to see what they see. Compassion is someone who wants to
00:45:37.960
bear your pain. Liberals, liberals and Democrats are perceiver compassion. They want to bear pain
00:45:46.500
in order to see, in order for you to see what they see. Now, when a, a, a perceiver is unhealthy in
00:45:54.560
their, in their mind, they become a dictator because if, oh, if you don't see what, what I see, I'm going
00:45:58.400
to make you see what I see. And again, as you said, people who are politicals, they're brain damaged,
00:46:03.900
they're damaged. So liberals are actually, um, uh, uh, they're kind of dictator compassion.
00:46:09.820
They're going to say, I, I, I want to care and I want to show my feelings. And I want to do that
00:46:15.820
in order for you to see what I see. And if you don't, then I'm going to make you do it. There's
00:46:20.400
a saying that if, if a conservative doesn't like something, he won't do it. If a liberal doesn't
00:46:26.680
like something, they want everyone else to not do it. And I think that really shows because when a
00:46:33.180
liberal says, well, this is bad, I want everyone else to, to, to, to react this way. I want everyone
00:46:37.820
else to stop doing it. Whereas, again, as, as John saying, the conservative, the Republicans, they're
00:46:41.660
more about themselves. I'm not going to do it. Liberal says, well, I want everyone else to not do it.
00:46:46.360
And that's where the dictator aspect comes in. So I'm, I'm about to say, I, we don't lose Raven
00:46:53.320
when I say this, because I think his brain might just go somewhere else here. So what Ed talked about
00:46:58.740
is, and this again is synthesis systems thinking you have a person as a tangible driver and I get
00:47:04.680
these CEOs or these executives who say, well, how do I give a speech to my department? How do I give
00:47:10.140
a speech to the company? Cause everybody's got different tangible driver. And I have teachers
00:47:15.820
who do that. How do I give a talk to the class? Well, you got to find out what the group's intangible
00:47:21.020
driver is. And if you talk into that, you reach everybody. That's what Braveheart is.
00:47:25.620
The speech at the end of Braveheart is exhorted perceiver because that group of people is acting
00:47:32.420
like exhorted perceiver. So when he gives a speech into that, it hits everybody. So that's kind of the
00:47:38.740
key. And if you think about it, this is really what we're doing in sports. What a coach does is they say
00:47:44.380
every year, the team is different and you spend the season figuring out the intangible driver of your
00:47:51.040
team. And then when you nail it, all of a sudden something lights up and the team's off and running.
00:47:57.840
And that's what these coaches is when I coach, when I help coaches, that's what I'm really helping them
00:48:01.760
do is we're trying to find the intangible driver of this team and how you talk to the group. And the
00:48:07.820
defense is one intangible driver. The offense is one intangible driver. The whole team together is
00:48:12.940
one intangible driver. So this is as an administrator, right? But now it's like, okay, wait a minute.
00:48:17.960
Now there's more pieces. There's all these pieces, but then there's groups of pieces. That's the whole,
00:48:22.700
it's like, there's levels to this. Okay. So the thing is, is that Raven, when you talked about the
00:48:28.820
illness thing, you realized that if you acted ill, you would get this attention, but notice you had to
00:48:37.120
act weak to get that attention. So you didn't want to act weak in order to get the attention.
00:48:44.100
A narcissist or psychopath is going to act weak to get the attention. So there's a whole,
00:48:52.420
there's a fork in the road there. You missed by not going, Hey, I think I'm going to fall into this.
00:49:00.600
And I'm glad I missed that fork because I'm, I'm a bit of a charismatic and I could have done that
00:49:07.020
well. Like a, like I also recognize that I'm a good liar. And so I abstain from lying. You know
00:49:13.080
what I mean? Because something about it is, is, um, I mean, obviously lying is bad, but, um, I, you
00:49:19.980
know, there was times when I was a kid and I would, I would weave something so parallel to the truth
00:49:23.960
that people, it enables me to see a lie. Um, but on a quick side note, you know what that has done
00:49:29.480
to me and I recognize it as bad. I don't identify with the victim at all. In other words, for me to
00:49:36.080
feel, uh, uh, a meaningful degree of empathy for someone being victimized, they need to be in front of
00:49:41.780
me and I'll stop it, which has happened. I've been in situations like that, but I do not perceive
00:49:47.520
victimhood to any meaningful level through the internet, through the media or anything like that.
00:49:52.620
I have no place for it. It just doesn't resonate with me. And mostly because I suppose I have a
00:49:57.640
distrust for the media, but I see that as being, um, the way by which many people are, uh, leveraged
00:50:06.260
into bad legislation. It's happened over and over again. So we've been talking about a lot,
00:50:12.400
Top and I, I've been talking on my other show, so much of what ails us at as a country right now,
00:50:18.380
the way was paved through emotional leverage. And so that mechanism in me is, is a bit dead and not
00:50:28.180
dead. I'm not like a cold hearted person, but it takes a lot for me to, I'll look at a situation and
00:50:34.460
I'll go like, even that, like if somebody's being victimized, they're like, yeah, it's gonna not end
00:50:37.840
great, but everyone's ultimately going to be okay. Thereby my input is not necessary, you know?
00:50:42.520
And I abstain. I think it, you know, it's not about the negative side. It's about the positive
00:50:48.880
and the energy. When you have a person in front of you, administrator, server, the server bonds with
00:50:53.520
the person and the administrator is going to try to get them going forward. So you get a person in
00:50:59.720
front of you and they tell you they have a problem, buddy, we're ready to go. Now, the thing is, is the,
00:51:06.460
if you can, if you use administration and now we're getting into Trump, if you, because Trump
00:51:11.660
is administrator exhorter, if you use that administrator the wrong way, people are going
00:51:17.060
to call you a manipulator. You said lying, but, and Ed talked about this last time, lying is just
00:51:24.200
stating a wrong what? You're not stating a wrong what? Manipulation is a right what with a wrong or
00:51:31.400
know how and why. And that's how people get deceived. Administrators are game players and
00:51:37.680
they can become manipulators when they get stressed. So you, you and I can be very good manipulators
00:51:44.440
when we get stressed and something we got to, we got to guard against. Okay. Now, if you, I would
00:51:50.560
love to hear, do you have a video of your story? Did you ever share your story about being homeless
00:51:55.600
and how you worked out of it? Oh, I mean, uh, it's a, it's, it's certainly not something that I, um,
00:52:01.880
guard. I've, I've talked about it pretty openly. Uh, I would love to watch a video that had that
00:52:06.920
because I love watching how people get through this because think about this when things didn't go
00:52:14.000
your way. So you nailed it. Everybody is, needs to work on themselves. And if we don't work on
00:52:21.340
ourself, then what we do is we distract ourself. You distract yourself with, and every, your story
00:52:27.820
is the same story. You know, you distracted yourself with conspiracy theories. So when things
00:52:32.700
didn't go your way, what was your response? It was to fight. And you said at the very start of this
00:52:38.740
episode, you know, I'm not going to kill myself. I'm going to, the tanks are going to be coming
00:52:43.680
through the front door. You know, I'm going to fight. Okay. That's, you've set your brain on this
00:52:49.220
path. Well, what's the other path? If I distract myself from my lack of growth by deceiving myself
00:52:58.180
into saying, well, I'll help people through what I wasn't able to do. So now I'm going to help all
00:53:04.140
these people who have the issue that I have, because I understand them. And Jesus said, you know,
00:53:09.560
the plank and the, and the moat in the eye, what he was really saying is the reason why you can see
00:53:14.240
somebody else's issue is because you got that issue. When people say, those people are doing
00:53:19.640
this, that person does that. That's why they see it so easy. So every person who's sitting there going,
00:53:26.480
I want to help these people and these people, they're, they're low self-esteem. They're all
00:53:31.060
this stuff. Now notice if I help all these poor people, what are these poor people going to give me?
00:53:36.380
Nothing. So why am I really helping them to mask my lack of growth, my lack of self-esteem,
00:53:46.740
my insecurities? If I've put everything, my entire sense of self on helping a bunch of people,
00:53:55.180
and I think I've failed them, how epic is my meltdown going to be? I'm not going to try to fight.
00:54:02.840
I'm gone. So that's why these people, there's two paths. You've chosen this path. And I would say
00:54:10.560
right-wingers tend to pick this path of, I'm going to fix myself and I'm going to fight for myself.
00:54:16.980
And I'm going to distract myself on other thoughts and philosophies. And then I'm going to fight if
00:54:23.960
I don't get it. But it's all distraction from working on yourself versus the left wing tends to go,
00:54:28.360
I'm going to fight for all these people who can't do anything for me. So I'm not really trying
00:54:32.760
to help them. And I'm looking to think more of myself and keep myself distracted. And when that
00:54:38.260
fails, everything's going to come to an end. So the thing is, is that when you look at Trump,
00:54:46.780
he is administrator exhorter. That's who Trump is. Administrator, he's like you and I,
00:54:55.040
you know, Raven in our Y. He wants to, to administrate, move a group of people. In his
00:55:02.500
first inaugural address, he used the word we 45 times. Administrators talk about we.
00:55:13.540
Okay. So that's the first sign that, you know, he's administrator and it's all about this group.
00:55:18.300
Pete and president is the biggest administrator job we got in this country.
00:55:23.800
Exhorter how is very dramatic. Everything is to the nth degree. So one of the things about
00:55:31.600
exhorters, and this is where everybody's getting this wrong. And so if you have a kid who's an
00:55:36.940
exhorter, and we talked about this the last time, this kid is frustrated. He wants you to feel his
00:55:45.380
frustration so he feels connected. So he tells you I'm frustrated and you talk really calmly to him
00:55:54.380
and you're really nice to him. And then he goes, that's not what I'm feeling. So what do I need to
00:56:02.460
do to get you to feel what I'm feeling? And I'll throw a rock through the window or I'll take a key and
00:56:09.960
get your car, scratch it. Now you feel frustrated. And now I'm, you know, and I don't think I told
00:56:19.000
this story last time, but what we teach is to the teachers. This teacher wanted this kid who was an
00:56:23.620
exhorter to get his chair and bring it in for circle time. And this kid's yelling and screaming.
00:56:28.880
And she goes, get your chair and bring it in for circle time. He goes, but they're doing this and
00:56:32.600
they're doing that. And she goes, I know. And I hate it when my kids don't get their chair and get
00:56:40.240
in for circle time. And the kid goes, and he got his chair and moved to circle time. Cause it's like,
00:56:47.740
you're feeling what I'm feeling. That's it. So what happens is with an exhorter is that they care about
00:56:55.780
the motion and not the facts. So I've told this story a couple of times. I was helping a guy like
00:57:03.340
you, Raven, who administrator server, he was married to a woman as an exhorter. And I was coaching him
00:57:08.320
and he said, my wife says, I don't listen to her. And I go, administrators love making lists. I go,
00:57:14.640
you probably sat there and everything she said, you wrote it all down. And then you responded back.
00:57:20.100
And she still said, you're not listening. He goes, yeah. I go, cause you're not saying it with the
00:57:25.100
same emotion. She's essentially saying ABC. And you're going ABC. Nope. You didn't hear me. I said,
00:57:34.480
try this. Next time she says ABC, you say XYZ. Say the opposite of what she's saying with her same
00:57:44.780
emotion. No problem. I told that story to a group of teachers. This woman was giver server,
00:57:51.480
married to an exhorter. The next week I told, after I told that story, she came back, she goes,
00:57:56.860
I, I went home and I was, I was going to prove you wrong, John. I went home. My husband came in the
00:58:02.420
door and he said ABC and I went XYZ. And he goes, I really like how we're getting along right now.
00:58:08.960
And she's like, I literally said the opposite. So here's the thing. When an exhorter wants you to
00:58:15.020
feel what he's feeling, I want you to feel excited. This is going to be great. Well, you don't look
00:58:19.620
excited. This is going to be really great. It's going to be huge. It's going to be ginormous. It's
00:58:24.560
going to be amazing. You know what? We're going to just, and people go, they lie. Exhorters lie.
00:58:31.140
No, they, you're implying that they're intentionally going, they're an administrator and they're going
00:58:35.640
intentionally say something off to throw you off. He's not lying. He's trying to get you to feel what
00:58:42.760
he's feeling and he doesn't care about the facts. So this is a misread with exhorters. We sit there
00:58:48.600
like, I don't know if you've been following this, uh, Stephen, a Stephen, a Smith is an exhorter
00:58:52.740
and Jason Whitlock just did this, this, uh, video about Stephen, a Smith's book, his autobiography
00:59:00.740
where he tells the story and he, you know, there's no way the story happened. He went down to some
00:59:07.180
college. He, he barely played basketball in high school, but he went down to a college in, in, in, uh,
00:59:12.840
North Carolina and made 17 straight shots in a practice on a Saturday. And they don't practice
00:59:19.800
on Saturday and February and they don't do all this stuff, but it's like, you can see over time,
00:59:23.900
Stephen, he's like, I want to make this point. I was good at this. And he tells you that that
00:59:28.280
didn't move the needle. You know, I, I went down there and I, I did a tryout for him, but you did.
00:59:33.340
Yeah. Oh, wow. That's amazing. And then it's like, that doesn't work. I want to try out. And I was,
00:59:37.360
I was making everything really 10 in a row, 14, 17 in a row. And at some point, it's not like
00:59:46.340
Stephen, a Smith is saying, I am going to lie about this. He's saying, I want you to feel what
00:59:52.160
I'm feeling about the story. So I say this. And so that's where these kids in school get branded as
00:59:59.760
liars. But when we go in there with the teachers and we help them realize an exhorter and help the
01:00:04.840
kid realize they're an exhorter, they start realizing, okay, wait a minute. I do say this
01:00:10.860
and it might not be true because I'm trying to get this emotion. And exhorters are the ones who
01:00:16.640
end up being bipolar because they're, they're, they're saying stuff in front of their unconscious
01:00:23.020
that isn't a fact. And then their unconscious starts going, Hey, I'm trying to warn you what's
01:00:28.480
saying that fact. And they're going, I don't care if it's not a fact. I I'm all focused on getting
01:00:32.100
energy this way. And so we help a lot of people who are exhorters, you know, manage their emotion
01:00:38.800
and everything the right way. So that's, that's what one of the things Trump is doing is he's doing
01:00:43.400
this exhorter thing and he's stating things that are not, you know, true to a perceiver like Ed,
01:00:51.300
but why did he say it? Cause he wants everybody to feel this. And then the other thing is he's an
01:00:56.300
administrator. She's trying to move everybody around and he can become manipulative. So, and then
01:01:02.080
the other thing is, is both of his administrator and, and, uh, and, uh, exhorter are in the future.
01:01:09.040
So if you wanted to drain Trump, you'd talk about the past, you'd focus him on administrators like
01:01:16.280
you and I, Raven, we are focused on the person who's outside the group. Like we're with a group
01:01:23.420
of people. There's one person outside the group. This is all we focus on. We are not the groups here.
01:01:30.480
And how come that person isn't in the group? So if you, if you wanted to distract Trump, you'd always
01:01:36.540
point to the, to the person outside of the group and he would do that. You'd talk about the past
01:01:41.520
that cause them lose all his energy. And then if you really want to stop them in your tracks,
01:01:45.740
you just say, this isn't fun. Well, look at, look at what he just did with, uh,
01:01:51.020
those morning Joe people. Uh, I forget their names. Uh, Mika. Yeah. So basically the last four
01:01:59.440
years they've been calling for, they've been, they've been spreading propaganda that could very
01:02:04.220
well get him arrested. And, uh, now that he's been elected, they begged for an interview and he gave it
01:02:10.180
to them, but he gave it to them because, well, he wanted to have that. I don't know. He like,
01:02:16.620
he wanted to like, like bring them in again or something. But in my opinion, it's, it's wrong
01:02:21.920
because you don't bring these people in. Like, I'm very, I don't, I don't know where I fall on this.
01:02:25.980
I'm like, uh, what do you think he's thinking? What do you put yourself for a second? Okay. If you
01:02:31.020
understand, uh, why aren't they having fun? So yeah. Like this isn't fair. You're an administrator.
01:02:37.820
You're going to figure this out real quick to really think about what he's thinking.
01:02:41.640
Cause he's thinking picture too. He's like, they don't get it, but they're going to get it.
01:02:45.840
I think there it is, but I can get them to get it. This is a challenge. This is fun. Did you see
01:02:53.220
him working at McDonald's? I didn't, I didn't actually see the clip, but I saw, um, who's Bill
01:02:58.820
Burr talk about it. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Bill Burr said, first of all, it was the first time you
01:03:04.480
ever saw Trump happy working at McDonald's. And second of all, apparently Trump was like
01:03:11.560
putting extra French fries in one of them. Did he do this? Did you guys see it? He put extra
01:03:18.900
French fries and he goes, imagine what the person's going to think when they get this one. If that is
01:03:24.460
an administrator exhorter, like that is him truly getting energy because of who he is. He's not the
01:03:31.880
president of the United States. He's an administrator exhorter. And anytime he can
01:03:35.580
administrate, exhort the chemicals in his brain, he's going to have all the energy in the world.
01:03:40.480
Yeah. So we have friends in the libertarian party and the guy, Dave Smith has been on the show
01:03:44.240
recently. He's also a friend and he is actually influencing Trump's cabinet picks and like Trump's
01:03:51.580
policy, like his, his son actually answered, uh, answered him back and said like, we're going to
01:03:55.880
get on that for whatever he requested on Twitter. Um, he came to the libertarian party, national,
01:04:00.940
national convention filled with autistic people who, who have no idea how to navigate these,
01:04:06.500
these waters and they booed him. But, uh, one of the, I believe it was Angela McArdle. She was like,
01:04:12.420
listen, uh, this guy, Ross Ulbrich, we want to get him free. And he saw that and he, and he kept on
01:04:19.080
that one second. Oh, there you go. Sorry. I got, I got, I got, which one was that? Was that your, yeah,
01:04:26.540
there he is. He's smiling there. Let's, you might have an exhorter here. Carry on. I'm, I'll be back in a
01:04:34.640
second. Yeah. Okay. I want to just bring this out real quick. Um, that again, about the intangible
01:04:40.300
drivers and what they, and how they affect groups, America as a country, we have an intangible
01:04:45.640
driver. We're exhorter server. We're the greatest country in the world. And we will do anything
01:04:50.940
to get you to feel what we feel as Americans. We, it take any challenge on, we're looking to the
01:04:57.560
future. Everything's going to be great. Manifest destiny. We are supposed to don't worry about it.
01:05:03.300
We got it. Everybody get excited. And that's how, when I said before that, if you want to win the
01:05:07.340
presidency, you have to focus on the economy, focus on national security and have a vision for
01:05:11.760
the future. That's extremely important is to have that vision for the future, because that's,
01:05:16.820
that's what moves Americans. Then you have another example of a, of a country, uh, that's almost the
01:05:22.260
opposite of us is great Britain. Yeah. The British are teacher perceiver, very dry. They're just,
01:05:28.620
they're going to say to what, and they expect you to understand it. If you listen, British humor
01:05:31.800
versus American comedians, you know, the British don't just make, they do one liners and they expect
01:05:37.440
you to get it. That's teacher perceiver. That's what they're like. And that's why we kind of clash
01:05:42.340
because we're very, very different. We're exuberant. We're exhorters. And they're just like,
01:05:45.920
you know, just very, very dry sense of humor. So John, go ahead. So I want to deal with what Ed
01:05:51.120
said about these three things. And, and what that's called is called the halo effect. And I discovered
01:05:57.520
this myself back in the nineties, I worked for a company, the dial corp, and we had this detergent
01:06:05.080
pure X and it wasn't selling very well. It was like 13th in the nation. And what I did was I did
01:06:12.640
a test where I tested the consumers and I intentionally made four products that had a
01:06:19.460
strength and a weakness. I gave people like a product that didn't foam. And then we tested it
01:06:25.760
and we asked people what they thought of each product and the product that cleaned an oily stain
01:06:32.300
on this poly cotton cloth ended up winning. It didn't foam at all. And it's foaming scores were
01:06:40.960
great. And I started going, okay, wait a minute. What's the thing that if you hit it, so everything
01:06:48.860
we've been saying is, is like fractal here. You talk to a group of people and you hit their intangible
01:06:54.120
driver, you hit everybody. You look at a group of people and you hit their main thing they're looking
01:06:59.640
for. It takes care of everything else. And that's the halo effect. So there's three things. If you
01:07:05.000
hit these three things, it doesn't matter if you are a disaster as a person. So we're talking about
01:07:13.320
derangement syndrome. You guys, everybody calls it Trump derangement syndrome, but the thing is,
01:07:17.360
is we had COVID-19, right? So I'm thinking we had DS, derangement syndrome 45, right? Now we got
01:07:27.500
this new derangement syndrome 47, but there was another derangement syndrome before these.
01:07:36.800
And so to all the listeners, and this is what, this is what I've been saying to people. There is a
01:07:41.860
special reason why the left, especially the older people on the left are completely crazy. They are,
01:07:51.920
they have utter brain damage and they're never coming back from it. Now I'm 61. The people in
01:07:59.880
the party who are in their sixties and seventies are never going to come back because they have a
01:08:05.100
massive contradiction and they are wrecking their brains. And I want to make sure, you know, I know
01:08:10.700
people, I'm a registered independent. I didn't vote this year. And that's a whole nother story. We can
01:08:16.300
talk about voting. Everybody I know who's voted for Trump. I've said to them, listen, I don't want
01:08:22.840
you to put your brain in a spot that's going to damage it because you start making excuses for Trump
01:08:29.560
personally, you are going to damage your brain because there was a president DS 42 who had horrible
01:08:40.560
personal, personal morality, catastrophically bad personal morality, but he had all the three
01:08:48.740
things Ed said. It's the economy, stupid. And everybody overlooked this guy's catastrophic
01:08:57.880
personal morality, but he played the saxophone, but voted him president and justified it. And
01:09:06.280
everybody who's my age, who voted for that guy is wrecking their brain, attacking Trump.
01:09:15.640
They are going to all end up depressed again. What's that in an effort to what? Not make the
01:09:21.140
same mistake again. No, they're sitting there going, it's wrong of Trump to be a philanderer.
01:09:27.520
Yeah. It's wrong of Trump to like, did Trump fake a, uh, you know, a, a suicide in the park,
01:09:36.940
you know, foster did, did Trump make a hundred thousand dollars through some investments,
01:09:45.880
you know, you know, and like, and the stock market, like the things that these people did
01:09:53.160
and the people who have ended up dead, like you could sit there and take all of that and,
01:09:59.560
and call it, if you told people Trump did all this stuff and they go, he, he did, that's even worse
01:10:06.400
than what they're saying now. He got impeached. I know. But did you know, he covered this up and did
01:10:10.820
this and did, Oh my goodness. And he did what with an intern in his office and he did what?
01:10:16.160
Like, this is, he's the worst person in the world. Oh, I'm sorry. That was 42.
01:10:22.840
I years ago, back in the eighties at the end of, uh, there was an article that was written
01:10:29.440
by a soccer player. This is back in the eighties. And he said, look at, we should get rid of offsides.
01:10:35.680
You know, there's all these things we should do to make the sport better. I took the first paragraph
01:10:39.760
and the last paragraph off the article and I handed it to all my soccer snob buddies.
01:10:44.760
And I said, what do you think of this? And they're like, this guy's an idiot.
01:10:49.020
He doesn't know what he's talking about. He would ruin the game. What a moron. I said,
01:10:53.700
uh, Pele wrote the article. You know what? I've been thinking about it. And you know,
01:10:57.200
there are some, uh, there are some things about that, that make it's like derangement syndrome.
01:11:03.060
And so we've already experienced everything that Trump, that, that everything that Democrats
01:11:08.800
are going through right now, Republicans went through when Clinton got elected both times.
01:11:13.720
the same exact complaints. And it's the same process Ed said.
01:11:19.160
I've, I've kind of like, I prided myself a little bit at, uh, contradicting myself in a
01:11:26.440
way. Cause like one of the, one of the arguments that we just had with, uh, Robbie, the fire,
01:11:31.060
and I like to do these like bold thought experiments, um, with, uh, I was looking at the political
01:11:37.300
landscape. And I said, if the Democrats won this year, it looks like they were like, uh,
01:11:42.560
it looks like they were sizing up seizing power. They already targeted their political enemies.
01:11:48.360
Yeah. Like we're like end stage empire is what it was looking like to me. So I was like,
01:11:53.240
so the logical answer for me, if I win and I'm a Republican, I take power. I take the ball. I'm like,
01:12:01.540
you can't let those people vote again. And you know, I got pushed back for this and that,
01:12:06.340
but I'm like, it just seems like logical. It seems logical to do this thing. And it's not,
01:12:12.440
it's not conservative. It's not, um, constitutional. I'm just thinking
01:12:17.340
this is the only move to do right guys. And like, Oh, well, you're not a libertarian. Well,
01:12:23.120
you're not, this is like, no, I had no labels. I'm, I'm just looking at an answer. Like,
01:12:27.940
is this the answer that we need right now? And. Right. And we had that discussion. It was like,
01:12:33.960
I guess the real question is, are we at the stage of the game where your opponent is no longer playing
01:12:39.440
fair and everything is on the line? Not just that stage in the game where we're at the point of,
01:12:44.800
I like, I think it goes to why people can't like, I voted for Trump, but I also realize when you say
01:12:52.180
it's bi-denomics, I'm like, no, well, Trump printed trillions of dollars and then put his name on it.
01:12:57.380
And he handed out these checks to people. So like, we're talking about inflation.
01:13:00.820
He also reigned over the COVID administration, which shut down the world. And this is why we're
01:13:06.800
dealing with shortages and all this nonsense to today. So I I'm fully aware of the economic
01:13:11.460
ramifications and I'm not going to blame all that on Biden, although he did nothing to help it.
01:13:16.520
I know that, but I'll still say, uh, I guess I'm, I'm a hypocrite. Cause I'm like, well,
01:13:21.700
I'll just go vote for Trump. We're going to move this. I'm going to move this forward. I completely
01:13:25.260
understand. I'm also not going to get into an argue. Like if someone goes, well, this, well,
01:13:29.600
that I'm not going to sit here and defend this guy. I'm just saying, well, this was the choice
01:13:32.920
I was presented. And this is what I picked. How come you can't like, just take a step back
01:13:37.940
and choose what you think is slightly better. Like people get so polarized in one side or the other,
01:13:46.340
Right. And to your, to your point top to, to kind of expand on this whole thing. Um, John,
01:13:52.220
moments ago, you alluded to an entire generation of people that you just don't think are ever coming
01:13:58.640
back. Right. And I wonder then in your estimation, when it comes to sort of this personality, um,
01:14:09.340
categorization, are we seeing a group of people, not, not just in that older generation, who's never
01:14:15.320
coming back, but the younger ones who may share their personality traits, are we seeing a group
01:14:21.080
of people that the media has become X, they have an expertise in manipulating these people on an
01:14:33.160
emotional level to such a degree that they will never come back. They've located their intangible
01:14:39.220
driver, these people, and they've been manipulating, but their intentions, whoever's manipulating the
01:14:45.260
media, which is, I've got no, I've got no mercy for these people. Like when, when, when we were just
01:14:50.900
talking about Trump bringing, uh, Scarsborough back in, I'm like back into what a noose? Like,
01:14:55.780
what are we doing with these people? They, they know exactly what they've done. They are participant,
01:15:00.200
they're willing participants in this game and they got paid very well to do it. And what they did
01:15:05.120
was almost destroy a country. As a matter of fact, it's still, it might be destroyed.
01:15:10.760
Yeah. It might be destroyed. We'll see what happens in the next couple of years. Those people are way
01:15:16.100
different than the rank and file that are confused. But like you said, John, will they ever come back?
01:15:21.580
I don't know. And then again, to my point is like, if these people, their main issue was abortion,
01:15:27.240
killing babies, no big deal. 70 million of you guys, but this is really all she ran on. So 70
01:15:33.220
million of you either voted against Trump or voted for murdering babies. In my opinion, that's
01:15:39.220
unacceptable. And I can't let you participate in this system anymore. If I have the power, I just
01:15:45.760
can't, I know it sounds crazy. It sounds authoritarian, but this is what you're doing. You're going to take
01:15:50.820
this and you're going to say, my issue is killing babies. No, that's unacceptable. You guys can,
01:15:56.840
you need a timeout for years, something, remove the fluoride from the water and detox. Let's,
01:16:02.220
let's talk again after. I don't know. I want to reiterate something that, that,
01:16:06.180
that we talked about very early top, because what in their minds and your mind killing babies,
01:16:10.520
I totally get it in their minds. They're not thinking of themselves. They're thinking of
01:16:14.800
others. They're thinking when they say abortion, it's, you are damaging other women. They're not,
01:16:21.280
they're perceiver compassion. That's what they're all talking. When you see all of these people who are
01:16:26.240
melting down in their cars, I've always wondered if I had time, I went to start a channel and just
01:16:29.940
call it and call it women crying in cars and just make it just show video after video of it.
01:16:34.800
And listen out of content. Yeah. But these people crying in their cars,
01:16:37.880
they are not talking about themselves. They're saying this is so terrible for women, for minorities
01:16:43.400
and because it makes them feel better about themselves. I don't think they're deliberately
01:16:46.860
saying, I want to kill more babies. What they're saying is I want women to have this choice.
01:16:52.980
Yes. Choice is, I mean, choice is, I've been in marketing, I've been in marketing for, you know,
01:16:57.920
20 years. Choice is brilliant marketing. Because marketing is basically the art and science of
01:17:04.000
associating a product with an emotion or feeling. And it can be very deceptive. So they've taken,
01:17:10.180
you know, aborting a fetus and just put the word choice on it. Because choice is positive.
01:17:14.520
And so now when you say, I'm pro, if you say I'm against abortion, you're against choice.
01:17:18.700
Because there's, that makes you feel like a bad person. So again,
01:17:22.580
marketing is tremendous. But it's like, what do you justifies them? It damages your brain. And it
01:17:27.460
just but it helps you justify where you, you know, what you're not dealing with. So all these people
01:17:33.720
who are melting down and shaving their heads and doing the 4B thing, they're not doing there in
01:17:38.700
their minds, I'm doing this for other people. I'm doing this to help the downtrodden. So they don't
01:17:44.040
have to deal with their own issues. And that's why it's really difficult to, to communicate with
01:17:49.340
them and get them to see the only way to do it is what john said before, when he was talking about
01:17:52.740
the focus group. Okay, that's great. How it's affecting you? Are you losing your abortion rights?
01:18:02.120
I guess how do you focus group? How do you focus group? I don't know, 70 million people that just will
01:18:09.680
they're not willing to hear. This is why I know, listen, what I what I said before, just a couple
01:18:15.840
of sentences ago, sounds crazy. But I'm like, I don't really I don't have an answer for you guys.
01:18:21.920
And we're doing this every four years now. And every four years, we spiral down more into insanity.
01:18:27.340
I just like I got to take your hands off the lever here. And we need to regroup and say,
01:18:32.380
wait a sec. And not to say that the right is correct. They're just right this time. They're like
01:18:37.600
better. Yeah, they're right right now. But still not not correct. I just don't know what you do.
01:18:43.100
So the real question becomes, we understand why they're doing these things. And it is a good thing
01:18:49.460
to want to take care of the downtrodden and look out for people that are less fortunate than yourself.
01:18:52.860
We understand the driver. But the fact of the matter is still, there seems to be to our to the entire
01:19:00.280
country's detriment, an overwhelming mass of the population who are incredibly deceived and
01:19:07.660
manipulated. Well, they're susceptible. We allow them to steer. They're going to steer us off a cliff.
01:19:12.740
And here's what here's what's going on now. Here's a dangerous part. These people are highly
01:19:16.660
susceptible to whatever the propaganda is pushing out right now. The propaganda is moving away from,
01:19:23.320
you know, transgenderism and homosexuality to now John Jones wins. And he does, he does a Trump dance.
01:19:30.940
And I'm like, Oh, my God, the culture, the mainstream culture is now shifting over. You see,
01:19:36.600
football players, basketball players are doing, they're all doing this. This is cultural. These
01:19:40.680
are cultural signals, cultural signals. The pendulum is swinging. And now it's going to swing back right
01:19:47.080
to the right, which again, we're going to get some sort of Christian nationalism,
01:19:50.760
some sort of, you know, something like that. And I, you know, I even suspect as much as I
01:19:56.680
believe in the Bible and Jesus Christ, I recognize what happens when you take Christianity and you,
01:20:01.560
you mix it with, you know, a sort of a tyrannical. Guns and yeah, it becomes a military industrial
01:20:07.020
complex. Yeah, not good. I mean, you know, maybe the real answer is no, we're just at a part of the
01:20:13.460
story where this is what's happening. And, you know, I look around, I see the fulfillment of prophecy
01:20:18.120
on a regular basis. So maybe this is just the reality of the experience that we're having.
01:20:22.060
But if we were to work these ideas out, if we weren't at the end of the line, and you wanted
01:20:27.340
to say, what do we do about this virtually half, which by the way, they've done a really good job
01:20:31.960
of doing that virtually half of the population who sees completely in the opposite direction as the
01:20:36.920
other half of the population. And maybe the, maybe John and Ed, I'm not looking for an answer.
01:20:41.160
Maybe what's, what's better is where do you see this going? Because I don't see these people
01:20:48.000
just letting it slide. And I don't see the people who have been burned. I just made a tweet today
01:20:54.660
about it. Adam the lectern guy made a tweet about what was going on during COVID. And we've just been
01:21:00.680
made aware that they're going to start COVID trials. And the tweet that I said was more or less
01:21:05.640
the people remember that their loved ones died in the hospital alone, unable to have contact with
01:21:10.880
them. You know, they remember losing their jobs. They remember the country getting shut. They didn't
01:21:15.620
forget. And I don't think that conversation is being, or is done being had. It never was really
01:21:21.240
had. So there's still a reckoning that comes from this. Where do you guys think this is going?
01:21:26.400
Because we're talking about the psychological aspect of half the country who are spiraling. How does
01:21:31.400
this end? I think, I think I have an answer for that. So I want to go back to what Top said to
01:21:39.200
work my way up. And he, he said, he's a hypocrite. You're not a hypocrite. Okay. And I want to explain
01:21:44.720
what a hypocrite is. It's really important because Jesus said, you know, that this person's going to
01:21:50.540
end up where the hypocrites end up in hell. So one of the things I always, you know, when I talk to
01:21:55.780
people and I explain what a hypocrite is, I end with, and hypocrites end up in hell. Okay. So what
01:22:01.360
a hypocrite is, is not someone who says something contradictory. It's someone who responds or being
01:22:07.560
made aware that they're contradictory. And then says, now that I'm aware of it, I'm still going to
01:22:12.160
do it. So it's not, it's not that. Okay. I say hypocrite because they've called me that,
01:22:18.160
but it's the same way you've called me as people call me racist or whatever. I say, yes, sure.
01:22:22.220
But you're not, but I want, I want to make sure people really understand what a hypocrite is.
01:22:25.160
Because there are hypocrites out there and it's scary when you see it. And, and I ask people,
01:22:30.240
I make people aware of it. And then when they take that step, I know to get away from it. So
01:22:34.700
you talked about a thought experiment. And so the way your brain works is that you can think of
01:22:40.960
something so you can go, what if these people got back in power, they would ruin things. What should
01:22:47.980
happen? Maybe they should be prevented from ever getting back in power. That's all. It stays in your
01:22:54.860
brain. It loops in your brain. Okay. When you make a decision that goes to your heart.
01:23:03.140
So everything that's in your heart is a decision. I like Ed. I like having lunch with Ed. I'm going to
01:23:11.180
ask Ed to lunch. That's this one in here. When people have a panic attack, especially when it tends
01:23:17.460
to happen with them because of the five and one, they make a decision. And that actually goes to the
01:23:23.000
amygdala and then the heart, the amygdala kicks out adrenaline. And then they make another decision.
01:23:28.180
They make another decision. They make another decision. And every decision, I'm going to tell
01:23:32.360
this person off. And if she says this, I'm going to do this. And if she does that, I'm going to tell
01:23:36.020
my boss this. And it's like every one of those thoughts kicks adrenaline. And now all of a sudden
01:23:41.060
your heart's beating so fast, you're going to have a heart attack. And your body has a, has a defense
01:23:46.080
mechanism that it basically says, look at the only way I can stop you from having a heart attack is I
01:23:52.680
got to shut your brain down. And so we're going to have a panic attack and you're going to black out.
01:23:57.460
Like your body is basically going, look, if you're going to keep making decisions like this
01:24:03.160
that are triggering adrenaline and going to make your heart explode, then I'm going to knock you
01:24:08.000
out. So you can't do that. That's all a panic attack is. And I teach people how to avoid that.
01:24:12.260
Like you are in charge of the decisions or the thoughts you're having, pick another tree,
01:24:16.140
pick another thing to think about. So the thing is, is that you can do a thought experiment,
01:24:21.320
but did you make the decision? I am going to make sure these people never get in power or did you
01:24:28.900
think of that? Okay. There's a big difference. So you didn't ever make that decision.
01:24:34.600
No, but it's, but it is, um, what I'm doing is I'm putting this idea out because we, we have like
01:24:40.220
followings and we have, we're able to talk to a large group of people. So the idea that I want is
01:24:45.540
not, Hey, take half their, half their voting rights away. But the idea that I do want out there is
01:24:50.180
these people are completely unstable and we better start talking about what is going on here.
01:24:55.640
And one thing I said a long time ago, I said, uh, should transgender people have the right to own
01:25:01.200
guns? And they're like, you're a bigot. This I said, I'm asking a question. Can we, can you answer
01:25:07.260
the question? And instead people get emotional. So I'm like, well, we should have this discussion,
01:25:12.320
right? We should be free to talk about it. And it's healthy to have this discussion. It's healthy
01:25:17.020
for your brain, but what I'm giving you is another, you know, you're, you have a great
01:25:21.700
community and they have these nuanced, you know, you were trying to have these nuanced
01:25:26.060
discussions. And so I'm trying to add some depth to that, to show you the people to worry
01:25:32.180
about is people who get on here and say, listen, everybody, we, we have to, I'm going to do
01:25:38.300
this and you have to do this. That's a decision. Okay. Now, if you had, so let's take another
01:25:44.500
step. If you had made the decision that, you know what, I'm going to prevent these people
01:25:48.880
from ever being able to vote again, when they get in power and prevent you, you need to be
01:25:57.320
okay with it. Absolutely. But that's, see, that's another thought experiment that I've
01:26:01.880
had because listen, I came from New York. I had to flee New York and I came to Florida
01:26:06.320
because these people were okay. It got to a point where they were okay. If you're unvaccinated,
01:26:12.740
we'll take your kid. Um, if you're, I don't know, you were non-essential people closing
01:26:18.400
down businesses, targeting you, screaming at you. If you don't, you were fine with that.
01:26:23.080
And I saw that side. I can't unsee that. That's a reality of what the left is or what
01:26:29.220
the, I don't, I don't even know what to call them. The left liberals, whatever they are,
01:26:33.100
you know who I'm talking about. That's what they showed me in return. I said, if I need to
01:26:38.500
survive, my libertarian sentiments cannot, uh, exist here. Like I cannot live and let live
01:26:44.960
at this point. I have to either with my rhetoric or with my mentality, oppose you right at the
01:26:51.860
gate. This can happen. And, and then it's like, well, what am I? Am I them? Perhaps I don't,
01:26:58.060
I don't know what a good answer is because now, now I've, I've looked into this, the abyss long
01:27:03.480
enough where am I now the abyss? I don't know. It's rough. Do I want to do this? Absolutely not.
01:27:09.780
But I don't, what other choices are there as we're going further and further down this rabbit
01:27:14.960
hole? And I think that's important too, because it's like, like, I, I don't consider myself
01:27:19.480
conservative. I didn't vote. If I did vote, I, I, I don't know that I would have voted for Trump.
01:27:24.380
Um, I enjoy him a lot, but I have, you know, I voted for Trump to move the story along.
01:27:28.620
This guy has a story. I'm going to get to that point in a second, but go ahead. That's the next
01:27:34.180
part. So when it comes to this whole, uh, conversation about, you know, left versus right,
01:27:41.140
it's like, I'm not a fan of authoritarianism. However, if you were being encroached upon
01:27:50.940
by what, what essentially at this point is your opponent and they are no longer willing to play the
01:27:57.280
game, uh, democratically, they are making an attempt and nearly seizing an attempt to become
01:28:05.480
author authoritarian. In my opinion, this can't go on YouTube anymore, David, but we've had,
01:28:12.480
we've had 130 million votes, 125 million votes across elections. The 2020 election had 150 million.
01:28:19.400
So the last four years, I don't know what happened there. Um, but there was 20 into consideration.
01:28:24.840
Let's say that is what happened. What happened is there was a grab. It was a cheat, right? If you
01:28:30.920
take that into consideration and you believe that, then what are you as the opposition prepared to do?
01:28:37.520
Do you go, I know you weren't willing to play the game fairly, but now that it's the ball's in our
01:28:42.740
court, we're going to continue playing it. And then when it goes back to yours, we're going to hope that
01:28:45.680
you do. Or do you realize how close it was? How many times have we heard a conservative say,
01:28:52.520
but the constitution says, and then the left will say, it's very funny. I don't care about that.
01:28:58.880
Yes. Right. So I'm going to address that. I'm definitely, you guys are going right to where I
01:29:02.900
want to go. Like the one thing I didn't talk about last time, but, but I want to get back to this
01:29:06.380
thing. So with your thought process top, you've, you've, you've done everything right. And the
01:29:12.620
opposite of everything you've done, you did would be brain damage. So some of these people that
01:29:17.860
you're referencing are brain damage. Okay. Now the next step is the reason why. So if you can sit
01:29:24.360
there, so why did you, why did you vote for Trump? Because it's not my place to deny prophecy. No,
01:29:31.700
I, I need to, I feel like there's a story being told in America and, and it does look like a story,
01:29:37.880
like he's assembling the Avengers. I'm like, all right, this guy needs to go back in. I'm going to
01:29:42.140
do this and put my vote here. Although it doesn't matter. I'm going to read either. I'm in a red state.
01:29:46.380
That's going to go red or New York. I'm in a blue state where it didn't matter. So I just did it
01:29:51.360
just as like a symbolism kind of thing. Like, let's move this along. I'd like to see what happens
01:29:55.640
next. Okay. So if you stick to that, you're going to keep your brain. If you start going,
01:30:03.500
Oh, and Trump is a perfectly sinless person and he's a Messiah and he's great. You are going to lose
01:30:09.820
your brain. So if you know why you voted for him, like a lot of my friends would say the same thing
01:30:15.920
is I voted for him because I liked the team. He's bringing in the administrator. He's bringing in
01:30:20.480
this team and I would like to see what this could do. So, so if you know the reason, that's what's
01:30:25.760
happening. So what's going to happen here. The thing is, is that these people said this stuff for him
01:30:31.380
for money. And I think they're all realizing, you know, MSNBC and CNN, a lot of people are getting
01:30:37.780
fired. And if they're just chasing the money, what are they going to do? So this, this brings up like
01:30:42.900
one of the things that, that I am very passionate about and makes me very different than, than
01:30:48.500
everybody else. There's four ways to approach a problem. So we are going to find out what is the
01:30:56.860
right response. You know, we're going to find, well, we're going to find out what the, what the
01:31:01.160
Republicans response is. So the first thing is you can absolve, you can ignore it and, and maybe it'll
01:31:07.860
go away. Well, the Republicans aren't going to ignore this issue that, that, I mean, you're just
01:31:12.880
saying they're going to, they're going to bring these people for the COVID stuff and, and put them
01:31:17.300
before. So that's not absolve. Absolve would be, Hey, let's just forget about it. Let's just go
01:31:21.860
forward. Resolve is you treat the tangible effects. This is reward and punishment. So the COVID trials is a
01:31:29.860
resolve approach. We are going to punish people who did the wrong thing so that they don't do the
01:31:37.560
wrong thing. And it sends a message to everybody else. Don't do the wrong thing. And that's really
01:31:43.700
treating people like they're an animal. We can solve the problem. Solving is treating the tangible
01:31:49.420
causes. So this gets back to the, it's the economy. It's this, it's like, if we can get more money in
01:31:55.840
these people's pocket, if we can, I think, I think what's going to happen is we're going to see a solve
01:32:01.380
approach. And the solve approach is, is the press isn't going to make any money unless they start
01:32:07.020
embracing the culture and they get more back to a balance and they, and they stop misinforming
01:32:12.700
everybody. And so I think that's going to happen. The problem with solve is that when you apply solve
01:32:22.660
to an inanimate object, a car, you know, anything inanimate, it works. When you apply solve to a
01:32:31.700
person, you cause three more problems. That's called the law of unintended consequences.
01:32:37.380
And the overall stress to your solution is worse than from the original problem. So why is the world
01:32:42.640
getting worse? The reason the world is getting worse and gets more psychotic, like you guys are saying,
01:32:48.780
and more chaotic is every time we solve problems with people, when we solve this problem, it creates
01:32:56.440
this effect. And then we try to solve and it creates three, three effects. Then we solve each of those.
01:33:01.700
And the reason why everything's getting worse is we solve problems when it comes to people.
01:33:07.720
The only way to approach a problem with people is to dissolve. In the Bible, God never solved a problem
01:33:20.220
relative to people. God always dissolved problems. That's what I do is I dissolve problems.
01:33:31.700
It looks like voodoo. It looks like magic. But what happens is when you dissolve a problem,
01:33:36.440
you treat the intangible cause. So an example is the intangible driver's test. Is this kid's an
01:33:42.580
exhorter? He's upset. You know, well, we're going to talk softly to him. We're going to punish him.
01:33:48.840
We're going to know he's an exhorter. I call it the backward step. He's the exhorter.
01:33:53.420
We're going to talk to him in his uniqueness. And everything's going to go away. And there's no
01:33:59.980
issues. So the reason why the world's getting worse, and the reason why every other podcast
01:34:05.280
other than this one is making the world worse, is they keep talking to people and having every
01:34:11.340
approach be solved. How can we solve this? How can we solve that? So resolve would be what you're
01:34:16.900
saying is let's deny these people from ever being able to do this. Trump is going to go for solve.
01:34:24.440
Trump is going to say, I'm an administrator exhorter. I can win these people over. I'm going
01:34:30.720
to change their circumstances. I'm going to show them that these people got punished for doing the
01:34:35.800
COVID stuff. I'm going to get the press on my side. Like he's going total solve. And it looks good in
01:34:44.080
the immediate and it's going to cause there to be more problems. And that's why we don't embrace
01:34:49.760
God's thinking, which is dissolved. And we are the villains in the story. We are making the world
01:34:56.120
worse. Not God. It's us. I anticipate that happening. I think we're going to see some really
01:35:02.200
good times for those of us who don't have an emotional charge when it comes to the changes that
01:35:07.020
are coming and don't have an emotional charge when it comes to Trump being the president. I do think
01:35:11.940
that he's probably going to win over some of those people. Some of those people will probably be
01:35:15.780
vote, but I do think it might actually be a much smaller percentage. Uh, do you say win them over
01:35:20.780
to what? Yeah, that's it. That's the question. Well, I was going to say shutting the fuck up,
01:35:27.120
just shutting up. Like, I think we can at least get them to do that. There's going to be a shut up
01:35:32.020
aspect. Um, but I think that this is back to like a Yuri Bezmenov kind of assessment,
01:35:37.940
right? Where it's like, by the end of this process, you will be able to show people who have
01:35:43.800
lost faith in all their institutions, um, the truth. They'll be able to hold it in their hands
01:35:50.440
and they still won't be able to see it. And that was what Yuri Bezmenov said. He's an ex-KGB
01:35:55.360
agent who was talking about, uh, espionage in America and how it's no longer done with like a 007
01:36:00.320
character, but it's a generational, to use your word, uh, dissolving in the, or eroding in the public's
01:36:07.180
faith in the American institutions. And I would argue that we're here now. And I do think that
01:36:11.740
he'll win over some people and, you know, to your point, top, when, went over it as into like,
01:36:17.100
just shut up, like life is kind of nice. Maybe they'll drop all of the tenacity when it comes
01:36:21.900
to political issues. Uh, but the vast majority of those people I think are in, they're in,
01:36:27.000
I just think they're locked in. I think there's no swinging those people back.
01:36:32.140
You know what the, so what John's describing here, the problem that I'm having clearly is that like,
01:36:36.220
I want a solution either way. Like you said, we resolve it or, um, we solve the problem.
01:36:45.420
That's what I want. But I'm thinking on a finite timeline of, I've got kids growing up.
01:36:52.180
God's timeline is this thing will, you know, like I'll put something in place here. And in 2000 years,
01:36:58.480
it'll, it'll fix itself. Like he's, it's, it's a gradual thing. I, that, that's how this needs to
01:37:03.760
be fixed is gradually for me, a guy that I'm like, you know, how much time do we really have
01:37:10.040
here? Right. I'm like, I need this fixed now. Unless they, unless we see something, which I do
01:37:16.820
believe is potentially on the table, unless there's an investigation launched and it comes to show
01:37:22.000
that his first administration was so tampered with and so subverted that somehow, you know,
01:37:29.920
in some historical precedent, it is almost, um, rendered nullified. And then he runs two turns
01:37:37.460
back. Cause he can't run two terms, right? He's, he's already served. So there would be,
01:37:41.840
and I honestly, and I know that I'm the crazy one here. I wouldn't be surprised at all. If we see
01:37:47.060
something come to pass where they dredge up the ways in which his administration was subverted
01:37:51.500
and thereby he gets another run at it or something like that. Well, what would, what would he do?
01:37:55.940
Let's, let's jump ahead. Let's jump ahead four years and get the conspiracy out now, but let's
01:37:59.680
be the first ones. Okay. What would you do if you were Trump and you want to be president again?
01:38:05.300
Oh, I mean, I don't know what he would do. I would just, what I was getting at is that
01:38:10.320
four years doesn't feel like enough time. And again, I think it's enough time for solve.
01:38:16.200
And, and I want to talk about the dissolve solution, but he just run as vice president.
01:38:21.280
I was going to say that just runs the vice president.
01:38:25.000
That's everybody's going to start that thing. Cause everybody did that with Obama. Obama's
01:38:28.680
going to end up being the vice president and he's going to end up back in there again,
01:38:31.820
or he's going to run the shell and he's going to, you know, let's just jump ahead. That's it.
01:38:36.480
But see, so top, what are you going to do with your kids? What's your plan with your kids?
01:38:40.220
For now. I mean, what I'm doing now, I moved out of a big city and I'm focusing on just
01:38:48.420
kind of living a rural Florida. Can you say where in Florida you're at?
01:38:53.020
Yeah, I'm in central Florida, like near the villages.
01:38:56.380
Okay. And Raven, you're a West coast down by Tampa and I'm in Miami.
01:39:01.700
Okay. Okay. So we got to get Ed to come to Florida.
01:39:05.140
Well, look, I think like what he's saying, by the way, and this is a little bit off topic,
01:39:08.520
but it's like, he's talking about a $10,000 tax deductible for people that are homeschooling
01:39:12.800
and things of that nature. There's a lot of really, really interesting things on the horizon.
01:39:16.200
If this does come to fruition, I, what I'm enjoying a lot about it is we talked about how
01:39:20.660
Kamala didn't necessarily have anything that she was running on just abortion. And I'm not Trump.
01:39:25.880
But as soon as he was, as soon as he secured the win, he immediately started coming out,
01:39:31.240
making all these videos. We're going to have flying cars. I'm like, all right.
01:39:34.660
I like the flying cars. I, even the, uh, the conceal and carry reciprocity from state lines,
01:39:39.460
you know, from one state to the next, I was like, that's incredible. There's a lot of things
01:39:42.460
that he's espousing that I'm going like, and he's, you know, he's got a plan for it. He's laying it
01:39:47.060
out. And I just liked that. So I think we could really, I'd almost be unconcerned with the screaming
01:39:53.580
masses. That is half the country. Uh, I don't care as long as I can pay for things, as long as food's
01:39:59.940
not incredibly expensive. And plus there's like a, you know, potential perks. If things could get
01:40:04.060
nicer than that, I would go back to being, uh, pretty quiet again and just waiting for the
01:40:08.120
antichrist to pop his head up. What I'm, what I'm concerned about with Trump is, is the solve issue
01:40:12.560
because John, you're a hundred percent right. He's going to go in there and he's going to solve.
01:40:16.280
And it's, it's not a surprise. I have no doubt that he will solve the economic issues, but the problem
01:40:21.200
is, is like, we have $33 trillion in debt right now more. And how do you solve that? How do you solve a
01:40:27.720
dollar that's worthless? He will solve it. And it'll be a, a huge problem because the only way
01:40:33.060
to solve that is to switch over to a different type of currency. And what they currently have set
01:40:37.720
up is, uh, like a digital dollar. So there's your new problem, but there's your solve. And Trump
01:40:43.900
needs that solved the same way he needs Joe Scarsborough to like, I don't know, like think
01:40:52.140
he's okay. I don't understand that. See, that's, that's him, him putting extra French fries,
01:40:57.120
you know, in the container, that whole Joe Scarsborough thing is him just going,
01:41:02.100
this gives me energy. Cause I'm the guy who could get these guts. That's literally who he is. And in
01:41:08.800
that context, the dissolve is to teach your kids and to teach other people how to think, not what to
01:41:16.540
think. Right. And not why to think, but that's what I do is I teach people how the brain actually
01:41:22.240
works. And I get out of their way, teach your kids how to think, and they're going to be able to
01:41:27.560
defend themselves from this. That's what, that's my whole mission is, is I put out Instagram videos
01:41:34.520
and I write stuff to teach people how to think 1% of the population wants to learn how to think 99% go,
01:41:43.520
I've got too many things going on. And, and I'm hoping like, there's a portion of the population
01:41:49.520
that says, you can teach me how to think in eight weeks, but maybe tomorrow my life will turn around.
01:41:58.460
Like if I believe you, then I know my life's not going to turn around magically for the next eight
01:42:04.280
weeks. I'm addicted to thinking tomorrow I'm going to wake up and everything's going to be wonderful.
01:42:10.800
So I'm not going to put, I don't have the time to put in the eight weeks. And, and here's the
01:42:15.240
dissolve thing. People say, you don't have the time. You mean you don't make the time that's all.
01:42:20.300
The reality is, is everybody makes time for things that give them energy.
01:42:25.700
It's not that you don't make the time you're saying that doesn't give me energy. If something
01:42:31.760
gives you energy, we always have all the time in the world. So the dissolve in this is to teach
01:42:38.360
people how to think these women crying in cars, if they learned how to think they would do that.
01:42:43.740
So one of the things is I say, what's the definition of mental health? And I ask all these
01:42:48.540
people, you know, on LinkedIn, on Instagram, whenever some mental health person comes on,
01:42:54.180
I say, what do you mean by mental health? You're the one who brought it up. What do you mean by that?
01:42:58.700
And 90% of them won't give me an answer, but the ones who give me an answer, and this is the
01:43:04.100
definition of mental health, is not having a bad thought or feeling. Do you guys ever have a bad
01:43:15.700
Can, can, can I give what I would estimate is my answer, John, to that?
01:43:21.080
I would only say the ability to process those bad thoughts and feelings in a way that doesn't result
01:43:29.800
to you manifesting something negative in your own life. In other words, it's one thing to have
01:43:35.340
negative thoughts and emotions pass through the filter. It's another thing to then manifest them
01:43:41.640
because of your own fear or anxiety about them, to the point where they actually do become your
01:43:45.820
problem in real life. This is that idea of when you worry about something, you suffer it twice,
01:43:50.680
right? Like the event when it actually happens.
01:43:53.380
Yes, yeah. And I, I struggle with that, not struggle with it. I do an excellent job of not
01:43:59.980
fearing a thing twice, but it's because I'm, I'm vigilant with it. I recognize that there is this
01:44:05.740
thing on the horizon that's giving me anxiety. And if I indulge and give into this anxiety, uh, and
01:44:10.780
don't walk my way out of it logically, uh, or at least just breathe and put it to the side, if I can't
01:44:15.460
address it, um, I'm going to suffer it, you know, this prolonged amount of time. And then, so I would say
01:44:19.940
that it's, it's, you know, mental health to me is just your ability, if I'm going to put it in layman's
01:44:25.640
term, to not spiral, just to not spiral. That's all.
01:44:29.860
Okay. So the thing here is that if mental health is to never have a bad thought or bad feeling, we're
01:44:36.960
never going to achieve that. And that's why mental health isn't getting well. Okay. It begins at
01:44:42.040
definitions, whatever you're trying to achieve, give me your definition and now tell me whether you get
01:44:46.820
it or not. Now, Raven, there's four levels to, for mental health. Then one of them is just to ignore
01:44:56.060
it. I have a bad thought or feeling I'll ignore it. Maybe it'll go away. That's absolve, right?
01:45:01.300
Resolve is basically, I am going to, you know, punish myself or reward myself. If I don't act on it,
01:45:11.640
solve would be, I'm going to go through this multi-step process and be vigilant and never let
01:45:22.880
it out, but still there. And someday you're not going to be able to hold it back. And then
01:45:29.180
the, the definition of mental health is the ability to repair your thought process.
01:45:37.220
Now here's the thing. I love to ask people what their definition of repair is.
01:45:43.620
And what's interesting is that the Bible, there is a word that is used that means the ability to
01:45:50.220
repair and the word is life. So here's the thing. When Pete, when I ask people what their definition
01:45:57.120
of repair is, they'll say to fix something. I say, well, to fix it. So it's no longer broken
01:46:02.040
and they go, yeah. So it's not as good as it was originally. Wait a minute. That's a really good
01:46:09.320
point. So I could fix it, resolve. So it's no longer broken solve. I could fix it back to its
01:46:17.300
original condition. Yeah, that's it. Um, actually in the Bible, that word's restoration, but that's,
01:46:23.000
if you want to use that word for repair, I don't have a problem, but here's the thing that's going to
01:46:27.000
change your life. It's going to literally open up avenues in your brain. What word do you want to
01:46:33.380
use for fixing something so that it's better than it was originally? Some people go super repair.
01:46:42.600
The definition of repair is to fix something. So it's better than it originally was that concept.
01:46:49.080
Now in the Bible, when you see the word life, that's what it means. Our body naturally repairs.
01:46:58.460
If it didn't, I would work out, tear down my muscles, and then it would put it back to where
01:47:04.100
they originally were. Wait a second, John. I think I I'm picking up on what you're saying. Are you saying
01:47:09.240
that what we should be doing is build back better? How dare you, John? How dare you, John?
01:47:18.040
That's not a bad one, though. If you think about it in that way. Yes, to build back better. He was
01:47:22.340
onto something. He was onto something. He just lost it. So repair, you know, fix back better is what I
01:47:28.140
would say. Not. Yeah. But the thing is, is that is, you know, the life is in the blood. That's what it
01:47:33.460
says in the Old Testament, the ability to repair to make something better. When you break a bone,
01:47:37.700
your body builds it back better. When you work out, you tear down your muscles, and your body
01:47:42.360
makes it better. Your body naturally makes you better. C.S. Lewis said, a live body is not one
01:47:48.940
that never gets hurt. It's one that can fix itself. I teach people how to handle a problem in a way
01:47:57.540
that makes them better. That's eternal life. Eternal life is every day in heaven, we are going to get
01:48:06.320
better. Life is not existence. When I was selling my book, Modeling God, I went to the International
01:48:12.080
Christian Retailing Store, and I asked all these great, renowned people in the show, what's your
01:48:18.000
definition of life? Existence. Do people who are going to end up in the eternal, in the lake of fire,
01:48:25.860
do they exist forever? Yes. So they have eternal life?
01:48:29.820
Life is the ability to repair. We are going to have the ability to repair for eternity, and every
01:48:40.460
day is going to be better because we're fixing something that is off, that's growth. And so
01:48:47.940
Jesus' blood gives the ultimate ability to repair. Jesus said, I came that you'd have life,
01:48:53.360
and life more abundantly. And Jesus said, these words are spirit and they are life. So life isn't
01:49:02.620
just existence, and life isn't just physical. Life is mental, emotional, and Jesus' blood brought the
01:49:09.260
ultimate ability to repair mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and physically. So that's what that
01:49:14.600
word life means, is to fix something so it's better. So that's what mental health, that's what I do,
01:49:19.980
is I help people have a better thought process because of how they respond, and that's how you
01:49:26.500
dissolve all of this. This is something that's going to come up in a few weeks when we get to
01:49:31.500
that part in our Revelation series that we do on Fridays that's been very controversial. I've gotten
01:49:35.660
a lot of pushback about it because people don't understand, or they have the wrong idea of what
01:49:40.140
heaven, or more accurately, the new Jerusalem is. They think, you know, we're going to just be
01:49:44.720
the same forever, and we're not going to make any mistakes. We're going to make mistakes
01:49:50.900
when we are in eternity. And people, no, we're going to be perfect. No, no, we're going to make
01:49:57.460
mistakes. Well, then can God punish us? No, he's going to have eternal mercy because we're going
01:50:01.560
to, in eternity, we're going to have, our thought process is going to be, we're going to be completely
01:50:05.980
mentally healthy. We're going to make mistakes, but they won't be sin because sin is what's done
01:50:09.640
outside of faith. We're going to make mistakes, but we're going to grow from them, and God is going to
01:50:14.020
give us the mercy for eternity so that we will continue to grow. There's the passage that says
01:50:20.680
in Revelation that their tree, the tree of life, and the leaves are for the healing of the nations.
01:50:27.280
Why would there be healing, need for healing, if we never got damaged in eternity? We're going to-
01:50:33.240
Yeah, are we not going to get better? Yeah, we're going to keep getting better.
01:50:36.380
And what's your process for getting better? You know, and that's the thing is these people want to
01:50:40.660
want to say, well, we're never going to get better. We're never going to grow. That sounds boring,
01:50:44.500
but that's the point of it is, is all in that Bible is that, is there's this getting better
01:50:50.780
and growing from that and learning from that. That's the whole point. And so what happens to
01:50:56.540
people who don't, it's your response to your mistake. My response to my mistake is to dissolve
01:51:02.800
it and make it better. These people's response is, I'm not going to make it better. I'm too old to grow.
01:51:08.700
I'm too old to change. It's not worth it. I'm not going to do it. So let me make you aware of
01:51:14.540
something. You don't want to grow and eternity in the New Jerusalem is about growing. You are not
01:51:23.560
going to be comfortable in eternity. Maybe, and if you, now that I made you aware of that, if you justify
01:51:30.460
not doing that, you are a hypocrite and we all know where hypocrites go. There it goes.
01:51:36.000
I'll give one last example, and I'll let you go, Raven, is Adam and Eve. I'm going to talk about
01:51:42.000
this in my Genesis series. I'm actually going to, the first one's going up this week, but Adam
01:51:46.680
and Eve, when they ate the forbidden fruit, that was not original sin because it's their reaction to
01:51:57.020
it. Adam blamed Eve. Eve blamed the serpent. And God. And God. Yeah, he blamed God. This is a woman
01:52:03.040
you gave me. But what if Adam had said, God, you know, I screwed up. Sorry. What would have happened?
01:52:09.960
God would have forgiven him. He would have had mercy and he would have stayed in that eternal state.
01:52:15.400
So that's an example of, and he would have grown from it. So they would have eventually learned the
01:52:22.540
knowledge of good and evil. God wasn't trying to keep it from, from ever for forever. They just went
01:52:27.520
down the wrong path to learn it. God, I believe God would have forgiven him if they repented, they
01:52:33.300
would have repaired and they would have grown. When people have trauma, you know, you can tell them to
01:52:38.720
ignore it. What most psychologists and counselors do is they say, your life's over. We're just going to
01:52:43.820
help you not kill yourself, which is resolved. And I actually go dissolve. You know what? This thing
01:52:49.940
is what's going to cause you now to become stronger and better. And you're going to use this to help
01:52:56.100
other people. We're going to brace it. It's going to be tense. We're going to grow through it. And
01:52:59.920
you actually can help other people. That is how we're meant to live.
01:53:03.920
That is what I, I admittedly, I do recognize that top. And I have been discussing this for some
01:53:09.000
time now. What do you do with these people? It's kind of been a big chunk of this conversation,
01:53:13.000
but I, the, I recognize the call to an easy answer, which is, well, they can't contribute
01:53:19.300
anymore, but that's not an actual long-term solution to anything. And really all it does
01:53:23.160
is just build resentment and future generations will have your head on a pike. Um, but when it
01:53:27.540
comes to the, the difficult, but you know, truth of the matter is it's a twofold thing. We need to
01:53:36.660
reach these people somehow. Um, they need to be caught up on, on how to process these things. And
01:53:45.520
we have to dismantle this propaganda machine that, that I think, yeah, the, the, the, the size to
01:53:56.560
which we've allowed it to grow is unbelievable. We say it all the time. It's like human beings have
01:54:01.720
never been subjected to this sophisticated of a, of a, of a propaganda machine. And so it's just
01:54:09.980
much harder. It's easier to say, and it's even a part of you that wants that, right? Because it's
01:54:15.200
like, and I get this, it's a, it's a revenge thing and revenge is for the Lord, but it's like
01:54:18.640
what they did to us, what they plan to do to us, they shouldn't be able to contribute anymore. But
01:54:24.740
if you're, if you're doing, if you're taking the Jordan Peterson path, right, of what's good for you,
01:54:30.500
but what's also good for your family, the community a year from now, five years from now,
01:54:34.540
15 years from now. Yeah. It's these people need to basically learn how to think more effectively
01:54:42.700
and to defend them from a propaganda machine. And this one has to be removed and we have to be
01:54:49.320
diligent that another one doesn't appear. So the people to top's point, the people who are behind
01:54:54.540
this whole thing, they're doing it for their money. Their, their brain is, is shot. They've,
01:54:59.400
they've sold their soul. They rewired the brain. We're never going to change those people. Okay.
01:55:06.160
The people that are being affected by them, that we interact with, we could have been one of them.
01:55:14.300
If you were one of them, these people who are melting down in their cars, they're brain damaged.
01:55:21.700
And I feel bad for them because they don't know who they are and they don't know how to think.
01:55:27.380
And if I was one of them, I would hope that one of you guys would be blazing a path and teaching me
01:55:35.140
and trying to reach me. So my whole thing on LinkedIn and my whole thing on Instagram is I'm
01:55:40.600
going to put the truth out there and I'm going to help people. And 1% of people want the help.
01:55:46.420
I'm going to help them. All these superhero movies, the solution is if we get rid of the evil people,
01:55:53.560
that's the answer. Batman gets rid of the Joker doesn't make everybody's life awesome, but there
01:56:00.520
is, you know, Jesus Morpheus and the main character of my favorite novel Atlas Shrugged right there
01:56:08.180
are the only three characters I know of whose strategy was, I don't care about evil.
01:56:15.880
Evil is unstable. It's going to wear itself out, especially if you weed kill it. I'm going to look
01:56:23.480
for good people and make them great. That is my whole strategy. I am looking for good people
01:56:29.080
and I want to make them great. And I think the community you guys have, there are a lot of good
01:56:33.800
people in this community. You have a great community and it's like, let's help them all
01:56:38.120
become great. Let's teach them how to argue. Let's teach them how to appeal to people and help them
01:56:44.080
up. Let's not look at everybody, not the people behind the curtain who are evil, but the people
01:56:50.980
we deal with. If we feel bad for them, do we have the skills to help them up? Because if I was one of
01:56:56.960
those, I'd want someone to help me up. That's what drives me every day. Is there a people out there,
01:57:01.940
I'm going to make overtures to them. If they tell me to take a hike, that's great. You saved me time.
01:57:08.040
Thank you for attacking me. You saved me time. But the people who reach out to me, I want to help
01:57:13.380
those people. You know, it's like, yeah, because I might sound blackpilled about my approach to the
01:57:21.960
world now and how I see things, but I also wouldn't be doing this show and I wouldn't be doing any of the
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things that I'm doing if I wasn't. And the, I guess the approach that I am taking is sort of a
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dissolve approach. Like, but I'm doing it obviously with, uh, uh, raunchy comedy. Um, but I'm trying to
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start a conversation because there's no way, like, again, if I take the right to vote away from half
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the country, this blows up in your face. I'm just, I'm just saying things out loud that like,
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let's start a better conversation about this is probably someone with better ideas,
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but what we do here every day, what I do with my t-shirt company, what I do on Twitter,
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it's all about moving this forward and thinking and also thinking wrong, like, or, or what people
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are, are taught that is wrong today. Um, that's how, that's how I like to think I'll take the,
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the worst thing you could say. And I say it in the worst way. And I go, what do you think about that?
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Yeah. And that's healthy. That's totally healthy. It's making that decision. That's what I wanted
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you to see. What you're doing is totally healthy. If you had been on this show telling people I'm
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making this decision, you should make this decision. You would be unhealthy. And that's
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the difference. You watch another show. They do that. You don't do that. But it's unhealthy for
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these people that do watch. Cause some people will watch that and they go, this guy is a
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authoritarian. I'm like, I am a t-shirt salesman and a graphic designer. I have no power
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to take the right to vote away. I'm just talking into a microphone, like be realistic here,
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have the thought experiment. That's really all that you can do here besides casting a vote that
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I'm not quite sure how much it even matters. And maybe I should send the link on how to argue in
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three questions, Colin. And I did, or maybe I should, we should talk about that. Like,
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let's help your community learn. Cause I could show you how to argue with that guy. It's called an
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unconscious confrontation and he'll just slow down. So why don't we become better arguers?
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Why don't we teach your community how to argue the right way? So, so we don't get frustrated
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because I've helped people like in two questions, handle an issue with their ex that used to take
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three days. And they sit there and go, you mean I could add these over, you know, in 10 minutes?
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Yeah. But I argued for three days. Yeah. Well, we'll, we'll take whatever we can. These people
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need it. They're retarded. But I do think that what's great about it is look, you know, top and
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I, we say a lot of really harsh things, but I, I don't lose sight of the fact that whether or not
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it was intentional, we've ended up talking to a group of terrible people that are good inside,
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but terrible on the outside. And nobody was talking to them. You know what I mean?
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And so I think that that's important because it's one thing to get on your soapbox and,
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you know, preach to people who already are there. And it's another thing to go and hang out in the
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back alleyway with the crackheads and then drag the crackheads out and be like, look, man, here's some
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pretty cool information, you know? So I think, yeah, right there to, to Xerox's point, we call our
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fan base dangerous retards. And it's a term of endearment. And I walk around outside with a shirt that says
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that there is an entire subsect of the population that's disenchanted and casted to the side because
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they use words that are no, no words. And we pick those people up and we, we, we hang out with them.
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And it seems to have a great effect in their life. So I didn't know this is who we'd end up talking to,
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but it is. I know we got to bring it in for a landing top. I know you got to go right now.
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My kids are like, yeah, sorry about that. Thank you guys so much for, for coming on. This is an awesome
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conversation. Can you please one more time, let everybody know where they can find you and we'll
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start with Ed. Sure. You can find me at faithbyreason.net. That's where you have, um, my work there with
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my revelation series is there, my blog, um, that I've been talking about where I talk about human
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government and that the purpose of human government is to suppress uniqueness. So the opposite, the
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dissolve is to, um, enforce your uniqueness and, and learn who you are. And, um, YouTube channel, my
02:01:20.220
revelation series is there rumbled as well. Awesome. And, uh, and John, where can the people
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find you flows us.com is, is the company I work for. I have this, uh, YouTube channel with Colin
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called truth in the 2020s. There's a, uh, there's a, uh, video on there about dissolve. And then my books
02:01:39.260
are at modeling, God.com all one word. Okay. Awesome guys go and support Ed and John. Um, you know,
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I always say if there's people that you appreciate in this community, uh, there's a lot of people
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out here that are doing hard work, amassing all this information and, and, you know, dedicating
02:01:55.420
time and resources. And if you find any value in it, you should be supporting them. Uh, top,
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do you have anything else before we go? No. All right, guys, thank you so much for watching.
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We'll see you later on in the week. We'll be talking to, uh, Arthur Quan Lee. He's coming back.
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So thanks for watching guys. Peace out the greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the
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corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade them
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that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see because they'll laugh in the face of an
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explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening. And they have.