096： What Happened to Jon Benet Ramsey？ w⧸ Human Vibration
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Summary
On this episode of Nede, we are joined by H.V. Van, a.k.a. The Father of Disinformation. He is a writer, researcher, and podcaster who has spent the past 5 years or so looking into the JonBenet Ramsey case and the theories that surround it. He has a unique perspective on the world, which is why he has dedicated his life to uncovering the truth about it.
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We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
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The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely...
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It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying shit what happened to the home of the brave.
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Motherf*****s, they're controlling us now, and no one's talking about how they made us try to be slaves.
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And everybody's just walking around, heading to crowds, we want to wake up to a dead in the grave.
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But it's too late, we need to be ready to raise up.
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Everybody is slaved, only some are aware that the government really...
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.
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That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.
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And today, we are joined by H.V., a.k.a. Human Vibrations.
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H.V., if you would, for the audience, let everybody know what it is you focus on,
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You talked about the chasm between what we are told and what is.
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I believe that this world is full of illusion and delusion, noise and nonsense.
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And all of it is taking away from what we are meant to be doing,
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I think individually we are incredibly powerful, magnetic, magical creatures
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And then together, we're absolutely unstoppable.
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And I think that there's a lot of division, purposeful division, within society,
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There seems to be two sides, extreme polarization, a lot of confusion.
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And that's kind of been my focus over the past five, almost five years now.
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And it all started for me with one specific case, JonBenet Ramsey.
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The way that I began to see that case, it became what I consider to be a skeleton key.
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Because every other avenue I explored after coming to a new world view from my research with her,
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It was like I was seeing the world through new eyes.
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I just needed to look at everything with a new lens, with a new vantage point and a new perspective.
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And that's what I've been doing, really, for the past few years.
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And I got a shout-out to Rambo on Twitter, SeekTheTruth101.
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If you ever want to talk about fakery and sports, also, like, he's really good at kind of the old Hollywood magic
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and new Hollywood magic with, you know, characters and actor-based reality, he's your guy for that.
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But also, just the trickery in the world of sports.
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And we've been recording together on Real Eyes Radio for the past four years, since 2021.
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And it's just been really incredible to kind of do this and have a partner in crime, so to speak.
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Me and Rambo are just kind of, we just keep getting together and, you know, just smashing these ideas against the wall and seeing what sticks.
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And at first, when I started this, I felt very, very alone in these ideas, incredibly alone.
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But slowly, over time, this way of seeing the world has actually attracted other independent, curious thinkers that have a shared sense that things are not quite right in this world.
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There's just this feeling, I've always had it, I've never really had the way to verbalize it until more recently in the past few years.
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But that, you know, this idea that the world we are living in is not quite as real as we are led to believe.
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There's lots of layers to how do we measure and define and quantify reality.
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And that's also something that I love to, that I love to get into.
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I'm excited to get into this because I will admit right at the top, I know nothing about JonBenet Ramsey.
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Like, I did, like we did, our last episode was about basically debunking Christmas.
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And it was just like a complete rug pull to me.
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Oh, so you're telling me there isn't a guy that flies around and gives us gifts?
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Who's been breaking into my house on Christmas Eve and putting gifts?
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Yeah, eating my cookies and putting gifts under the tree.
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And I'm ready to have my life be even more of a lie.
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But this has come across my TV screen, I guess, because my wife, she often like watches Netflix.
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And I see that the JonBenet Ramsey case is now making a resurgence.
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You've got guys like Aiden from the Lore Lodge.
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Once we had you booked and I knew that we were going to be talking about this, I'm like, I'm not going to look into it at all.
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I want to find out right here, right now, from the experts.
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We're like, I've never really given the JonBenet Ramsey case a good look at all.
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I think I might have peripherally been exposed to a documentary that maybe my wife was watching.
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I hope it'll get pulled for even just saying the word.
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But it seems to me, after the episode was over, that there's a really good case for none of that being real whatsoever.
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So now we're over here having this conversation about...
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So this is one of these things that I don't even have to ask you how you got into this.
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More so because this was one of these televised or publicized cases.
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These unsolved mysteries that gripped the nation.
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And even just in casual conversation with my wife this morning, we're having coffee.
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And she goes, it is strange, admittedly, that the entire nation was gripped by this story and continues to be to some degree over all these years when, you know, the unfortunate truth of the matter is children are kidnapped regularly.
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Why does this character enter the zeitgeist, you know, of American pop culture in kind of a way?
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It's almost gross to say that, but it has become part of the lore of America.
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And whenever you see something rise to that level of popularity or that level of intrigue, you have to start asking questions.
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And what was it, H.V., that tripped you up about this and made you give it a second look?
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So I've been obsessed with JonBenet really since I was a little girl.
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And I remember I was probably, I think I was 11, 11 or 12.
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I remember being, most acutely, I remember seeing her face on all the magazines.
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I remember being at the grocery store with my mom and seeing really this perfect doll's face.
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There's this perfect, angelic, beautiful, just perfect specimen of innocence and beauty just staring back at me.
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And I had a doll collection at the time, like a real creepy porcelain doll, just as creepy as you can get.
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Even back then, I remember thinking that she looked like a living doll of some sort.
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And that kind of childhood fascination, just from her being on the covers of the magazines, something stuck with me.
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And I remember when I had my first computer in college, it was my first personal computer.
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And I was like set free to search whatever I desired and for whatever reason, my mind, I just loved conspiracy theories.
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And I started getting into a lot of conspiracy theories specifically about JonBenet Ramsey.
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And I mean, you could spend the rest of your waking life reading the most unsavory details, the speculation over what happened to JonBenet.
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And there are thousands of rabbit holes existing to lose yourself down.
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Was she satanic, ritually abused on Christmas night in some sort of Saturnalia ritual?
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Was she part of Jeffrey Epstein's cabal napped by Ghislaine Maxwell?
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Because there is this one image of her that seems to show Ghislaine Maxwell in the background.
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And she's wearing this little Dutch girl outfit and Ghislaine's just right here over her shoulder.
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And that makes you think, oh, my gosh, that's that's it.
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She must have been napped by their, you know, international crime ring.
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And she's down on Epstein Island in the tunnels in their baby eating den or whatever.
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So there's that's just a just a sampling, just a taste, just a tip of the iceberg on the HB.
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And I guess I can't even pretend it's just for the audience.
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But for me, and even even top said it, can we just give a thousand foot overview of what the general consensus is?
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What are most people accepting of when it comes to the narratives that's been fed by the media over the years?
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I know it's unsolved, but where have people generally landed on this whole topic?
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And so a little bit of a, you know, an elevator pitch on what JonBenet Ramsey, what it is, even, you know, she it was 1996.
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Pageant queen from a, from a wealthy family in this, you know, sleepy town of Boulder, Colorado.
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And the story went that she was, was kidnapped because there was a ransom note that was found.
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And so what began is this, this, you know, kidnapping story devolved into a murder mystery very quickly
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because there was a quote unquote body found in the basement of this family home.
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We have, we have never been relieved of this story in the 25 years that it has, it's been, or not 20, well, how many years now?
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1996 to, we're, we're coming up on, we're coming up on the 20, 20, 20th year anniversary of, of this story.
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We just ate, we just, yeah, we just got, we just realized how old we are.
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No, that's my own, my own, um, psychological defense from realizing how old I'm getting.
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And I, my, my, my grand theorem is this case is unsolved simply because it was designed that way.
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But, you know, it had, you mentioned earlier, you said the word intrigue and this, this story,
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this case has all of the elements that, that pull the, the, the heartstrings of the public,
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We have, we have, um, we have kind of a, a, a, a sick obsession with, with, with wealth, with, with wealthy families.
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And when, when tragedy befalls a quote unquote perfect family with, with everything you would ever want, um, that makes it even more intriguing, even more interesting.
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I'm just thinking of the billionaires trapped down on the Titan that pulled our, our attention and energy like no other.
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And I think the billionaire element was a part of it.
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And just as an example, there's still those astronauts, quote unquote, quote unquote stuck in space.
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Remember those astronauts that have been stuck in space?
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We all did because they're not billionaires and we don't care about them.
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There's no, they don't have these elements of, of intrigue.
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And for whatever reason, beautiful little blonde girls, we just love when they get, you know, offed.
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We, we are obsessed with, with figuring out, not so much with little brown girls, as you mentioned earlier.
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There are, there are, there are tragedies that happen every day.
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These are real things that do happen in our society.
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But for whatever reason, we are still stuck on JonBenet and all of the others just kind of get lost in the annals of history, you know?
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Isn't it interesting too, HV, like our obsession as human beings, um, over the, the dark details of a thing that, that it's like, we.
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There is actually a deep seated urge to have eyes on the tragedy.
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And that's why you don't want to, you know, you know, you shouldn't.
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But when you drive by one of the, that's why every car slows down.
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Um, every single car slows down going by a wreck because every single driver, whether they want to or not, goes like this over their shoulder or like this over their shoulder.
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There's a, there's a, there's an absolute urge.
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And I think that this story, um, and many, many, many, many, many stories like it, um, are, are, are using that pull, are using that internal urge to keep us on the hook, the Sandy hook.
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Um, and I think that I, I truly think, and there's a, there's a very, very similar tie between the word hooks and hoax.
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They, they, they, they, they truly hook our fascination, our, our, our, our, our, our focus, energy and attention.
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And, and something that I argue, this is kind of a larger, separate, but related theorem is that our focused attention is the most precious element, the most precious resource within this realm.
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That's, that's what everybody is after, our, our focused energy and attention.
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That is truly, you know, that's what it's called.
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We, we are paying attention because there is a currency.
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There is a value that is not really, you know, on this ground level that we see.
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But there, I truly believe that we are what, we power and empower this, this realm with our focus, energy and attention.
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And I think all of these stories are just, they're just trying to hook us.
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And, and you, like those, the, the details, the, you know, the more grotesque, the more sticky in the mind.
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And that's why, you know, I think some of the details of John Bonet, I went back and I reread some of the original magazine articles from 1996.
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It's a very, what would be called a family friendly publication.
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And the, the, the descriptions of the, the details of the case.
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And, you know, but without going into every single detail, there was one element of this grot,
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which is a, a tool that was twisted around her neck and she was, you know, evidence of being abused by the family.
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There was just, in this, in all these little articles, there is just the most horrific, it's almost like a snuff film.
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It's, it's, it's, it's in great detail telling us the very last moments, theoretically, of this, of this bright light who is no longer.
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And again, snuff film is, is a film where you actually witness someone die and they call it a snuff film
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because it's like a candle being burned, blown out and, and the, the, the light is gone from the, from the victim.
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And I, I, I think that, I think that this is essentially that.
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We are being, we are being tricked into absorbing extremely distressing information and it's just packaged kind of in this bubblegum, shiny exterior
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with, with, with glossy pictures of her parading around in these pageant garbs.
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And, and, and beside this, this picture of this angel is an entire description of sexual abuse.
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Um, uh, uh, uh, all the, you know, just the pedophile element of the pageantry, um, uh, did the, did the brother do it?
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Was the brother sexually assaulting her down in the basement, you know?
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And this was something, and, and how many times she went to the, you know, the pediatrician as a child.
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And that was, you know, 33 quote unquote trips to the pediatrician, which would be a remarkable number for a child
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and would make one think that, yes, she is being sexually abused.
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These details are, are just that they are, they're elements to, uh, to a story, I believe.
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And, and, and the more you read, the more depraved they get.
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Um, there's a new documentary out now on JonBenet.
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I'm actually having trouble even talking about some of the details of the case.
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And it's, um, and it's, it's ironic because this, this is like my jam.
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You know, what, what you're describing here feels a lot like, it's like taking somebody's
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worst fears, uh, you know, cause even, even a car accident is, is a version of worst fears.
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And when you have children, you know, God forbid anything happened to them.
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So you take like this, um, the most iconic and pure image of a child that you possibly can.
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And like you're describing, putting it side by side by, um, you know, with all this snuff film language,
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it feels like it's, it's like an emotional energy exchange.
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And, and we're also doing like a bit of trauma bonding on a nationwide scale.
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Um, I can't exactly lay claim to what this achieves, but I do recognize it as like, and
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there's so many of these things that fit this bill as an emotional exchange of sorts.
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And, and, um, and also, yeah, you're creating almost core memories in people because trauma
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Trauma has a way to create a core memory and forever change the trajectory of a person's
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Well, what if you could do that on a nationwide scale?
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What if you could have a traumatic event and then engineer, you know, the thoughts and opinions
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of the American public on that event, could you then kind of create a core memory for
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people and, and forever change and even implement a new personality aspect in an entire nation?
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And this is around the time that stranger danger too.
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I mean, we have the eighties satanic panic and the milk carton kids.
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And I, I have actually a thread on my Twitter about the milk carton kids.
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They were just digitally generated faces on the side of a carton so that every breakfast
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table in America would absorb great tragedy as they were taking in their frosted flakes.
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That's so wild because it's the first thing in the morning.
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Mom, more trauma juice for my frosted flakes, please.
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It's, it's literally the first thing the families are just sitting around the table casually.
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What, you know, did you finish your assignment for school?
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And staring back at everybody is this missing child.
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And, and, and I, and I go into how this was actually achieved and, um, yeah.
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And, and what kind of tipped me off to, to the, to the campaign of the missing children
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was that there was a 0.0% success rate of the, of the milk carton kids.
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And at first your mind goes, oh my God, oh my God, none of the kids were found.
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They must've all been, you know, murdered and they're buried in the backyard or they're
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thrown out to sea or they're son of fire or whatever.
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How, how, how, or they're, you know, lost in a system of, you know, being trafficked
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And then there's a slight fracturing or a, or a shift in perspective, a shift in vantage
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point, a shift in the lens through what you see.
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And then you realize, oh, no kids were found because none of them exist.
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It's a, I mean, you mentioned at the top of the show, uh, well, obviously your name,
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And, uh, and then you also said like the magnetism of people.
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So I guess let's get real crazy with it or this is the correct show.
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But when you're talking about a mass louche event like this or nine 11 or COVID COVID, the
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That's like, this does have a magnetic frequency aspect to it.
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Um, and then, and you also said, so now I'm looking at little kids on a milk carton as we
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eat our cereal that's loaded with, you know, uh, garbage in, garbage out, truly garbage.
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You know, when we, our diet of garbage is not just the food that we eat, but the, the,
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the thoughts, the material, the information we allow into our brain.
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And just imagine like that whole breakfast table was just garbage.
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They're, they're reacting on, I mean, they're reacting on a certain level.
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But I mean, the thoughts, these energetic thoughts are reacting magnetically with, I
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There's poison in the food that I assume would react to your thoughts.
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We were, everybody's going to drink now, but we, we had a guy, uh, Jerry Marzinski on and
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And he's talking about schizophrenia in patients.
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And he deduces that, uh, the schizophrenia is actually not, uh, just like hallucinations.
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There are entities talking to these people and he has his, some patient in front of him
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And in, in that moment, he hears like a crackling sound go across the wall.
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And later on, the patient tells him that the crackling sound was the voice of this entity.
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It told him to get a shank, come back to his office and put it in his gut, but he couldn't
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But the interesting thing is that this crackling sound, it's like an electrostatic noise behind
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And this equates to some entity that is speaking to this patient.
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And add that to whatever's in vaccines, these heavy metals, whatever's in our food, the
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microplastics, the metals, the toxins, add that to our thoughts being energetic and negative.
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And then, then you have to ask yourself, well, what, to what end, what are they getting at
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I think that our society, like we are, we've been tricked into adopting a lot of things that
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And I mean, even I've been reading about the clothing that we wear, certain fabrics, you
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know, everything has a vibration, every material, every, every sound, every color, every physical
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And that inherent vibration can either be in tune or out of tune, harmonious or discordant
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with, with you as a, as a, as a, as a sum total of energetic vibrations.
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I think each of us have a, has a very specific frequently, frequency, you know, our vibe.
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Um, but I think it's, I think it's an actual real thing.
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And, and the, and the, the, these, these events, you know, you mentioned the word loose and
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that was, that was kind of a word that I really focused on with the John Bonnet Ramsey thread.
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Um, and I understand it to mean basically our, our energy, human energy, uh, is, you know,
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our, our, our emotional state, our emotional energy, our physical energy, our psychic energy,
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all of the different spiritual, spirituality, I think has a frequency, all of the different
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energies that we emit, that we, um, that we project, um, that we are, I, I think that that
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can be, that can be tuned, that can be a high, like a frequency can be hijacked.
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And I think that sometimes, and I think, you know, speaking of 9-11, I think the only thing
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that was hijacked on 9-11 is the collective consciousness.
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I, I call it the, the plane of awareness, the plane of consciousness, the plane of understanding,
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I truly believe is, is that, that is what was hijacked on 9-11.
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Page one, chapter one, sentence one of the 9-11 commission report, the headline, the very
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first words that you read, the very first words of the report are, we have some planes.
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Apparently, that was something that was, you know, the first words that were uttered from
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the military, like, we got, we have some planes, we need to intersect them, something's going on.
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But, I see that as, we have some planes, not, not airplanes, not aircraft, but planes of,
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our plane of understanding, that we're about to get, we're about, we have some planes to,
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to mess with, and I think that our planes were, were messed with.
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I think our understanding of the world, and our understanding of, of, of ourselves, I think
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so many things were, were taken from us on, on that event, or hijacked, essentially.
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And, and again, it goes back to our energy, and certain events are, are, are incredible at, at
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pulling our energy from us, and, and, and, and, and keeping a focal point for that energy,
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and never letting go, and truly, so, I mean, there are many people, I was just in New York
00:29:10.180
City, um, a couple of, about a month ago, and I visited Ground Zero, and, you know, that
00:29:16.220
was, um, that was, people are still very much, um, uh, obsessed is not the right word, but
00:29:25.440
The trauma is just as fresh today as it was, um, when the scenes, uh, occurred, when, when
00:29:33.000
the event went down, um, and I, I do think, you know, as far as the magnetic element, and
00:29:39.740
the, the, the, the, the frequency, and the energy, polarity, I think, plays a huge part
00:29:46.740
in all of this, keeping, you know, the, the, the, the, we know magnetism has, has two polar
00:29:52.240
opposite, we've got the, you know, the positive and the negative, and there is a, a great power
00:29:58.080
in keeping those two opposite ends together, there is a great power in, in that, and I think
00:30:05.740
that so many of, um, the devices of society are, are clearly designed to keep us in a state
00:30:14.140
I'm thinking right now, we just had the election, so of course, I'm thinking of the Republicans
00:30:17.280
and the Democrats, and the left and the right, you know, you, why, why do we, ah, we're
00:30:22.220
and I think everybody right now can go, really, do we, are these, are these the best two options?
00:30:26.680
Like, is this, you know, is, there's not a third options hiding somewhere that is not
00:30:31.620
this, you know, and, um, I think that we are tricked into thinking that this world is a
00:30:36.040
binary experience, and that there are only two ways of seeing certain things, you're either
00:30:42.040
right or you're wrong, and there's no gray area, no gray space in between, um, and I think
00:30:47.100
that the, the division, even, you know, you mentioned COVID with, gosh, I can't, you know,
00:30:51.560
that was one of the most polarizing experiences, you know, I, I, I had, I woke up, I call it,
00:31:00.560
wait, my, my waking up in January of 2020, so right before, right before COVID, the word
00:31:06.160
COVID was even on the, the hearts and minds of, of the global public, um, I was kind of coming
00:31:12.100
online coming aware to the deception through JonBenet Ramsey, um, I was, I was becoming
00:31:18.540
very hip to the idea that, uh, our major news outlets could be lying to us, that our government
00:31:25.140
could be lying to us, that was, that was something that was, uh, a very top of mind for me, and
00:31:31.000
then when this big scary, you know, virus became the, the topic du jour, I was very skeptical of
00:31:38.680
that, naturally, and, uh, I never, I never bought into it, I never bought into the, we
00:31:43.960
never needed a mask, we never, we never needed vaccines, ever, I don't think, I don't think
00:31:48.460
viruses exist, so I don't think we ever need them, but, you know, wherever, whether you
00:31:51.820
were mask or no mask, or vaccine or no vaccine, or the, I believe in, you know, viruses, or
00:31:57.360
I don't believe in viruses, there, there was a great pulling apart of, of, of the public,
00:32:04.400
and you were on this side, or you were on this side, there was very little space in
00:32:08.880
between, there was very little ability to exist somewhere in the middle of the two argument
00:32:15.000
side, and I, I just think that everything is, is designed that way, um, many things in
00:32:21.620
our society, many things in our culture are designed to have a, a, a bifurcation, a polarization,
00:32:28.560
a, a this side, and another that side, and a nothing in between, because I think it actually
00:32:32.180
power, I think that there is a power mechanism, you know, uh, the, uh, polarization can create
00:32:38.720
like a spinning, uh, uh, like a spinning gyroscope, essentially, I think with, within, within whatever
00:32:45.300
is, whatever, you know, is this a ball earth, is it a flat earth, is, I, I just think it's
00:32:49.740
kind of a realm that is, that is kind of powered by our belief in it, and it just maintains
00:32:55.080
whatever applied physics we are, we are perceiving and believing, um, but I, I do think that, I think
00:33:02.880
that the, the, the, the polarization is a, it just, it is the, it is the mechanism of control
00:33:12.460
coupled with fear, because the polarization with one side and the other, you know, people, there is a,
00:33:17.580
there is a distrust and a discomfort when you're on one side, and people that you love might be on the
00:33:22.660
other side, and, and there's a great fear, you know, your family, if you weren't taking the
00:33:26.920
vaccine, then your family was very fearful for you, or, you know, if your family was taking the
00:33:31.260
vaccine and you weren't, you'd be very fearful for them. I think in a lot of these, even JonBenet
00:33:36.340
Ramsey with, you know, being fearful that an intruder could come into your home and snatch your baby
00:33:41.620
girl, and that changed the conversation for everything, forever, by the way, because it was so
00:33:46.860
common for people in, in back in the day to allow their children to go outside and play freely,
00:33:50.840
and, and really in the 90s is when the fear started, and then it developed to the extent
00:33:56.400
to which I don't really see kids playing outside alone very often these days. There's so much fear
00:34:01.840
about, you know, the white van pulling up and whisking away the children, but I'd like to take
00:34:07.580
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00:34:36.460
now. I actually have a lot of questions, HV, and I'm sorry to derail you. I'd like to get back to this,
00:34:44.860
you know, the things that stick out in your mind about the JonBenet Ramsey case. However,
00:34:51.240
I wanted to ask you your thoughts on if this is really an energetic exchange, which I do put a lot
00:34:57.100
of stock into that idea. What then do you make of the idea of, we're both mutual fans of Sam Tripoli.
00:35:07.640
It's one of my favorite people, right? Sam Tripoli does a great job of mixing conspiracy and humor,
00:35:12.860
seeing as how he's a stand-up comedian, and I find, interestingly enough, that these things pair
00:35:17.280
very well together. That being said, when you have these horrifying events and they are this energetic
00:35:23.560
exchange, it feels to me like when a comedian comes over and cuts the knees off of it,
00:35:30.560
it almost feels like a good thing. Yeah, I think humor is our best weapon against this.
00:35:36.860
A sense of levity, a sense of lightness. You know, it's hard to ascend if you're weighed down,
00:35:41.940
if you're weighed down mentally. And I don't know what ascension really means,
00:35:46.240
but I do know that there's potentially a leveling up within this place. It's not about dying and go
00:35:53.700
to heaven. I think that there are some ways to quote-unquote level up in the video game that is
00:35:58.460
this experience of life. And I think humor, and I love Sam too. I mean, I told you guys this before
00:36:06.240
we started, but I would be remiss if I didn't give Sam a shout-out. Sam Tripoli, back in 2020,
00:36:12.080
he came across my JonBenet Ramsey work. I actually pinged him. He had a Sunday, ask me anything,
00:36:17.340
and I pinged him and said, what do you think about JonBenet Ramsey not existing? And I put like my
00:36:20.660
top five little things, and I'll go over those because actually that would be pretty good,
00:36:24.420
my top five reasons, you know, that I thought he should investigate the thread a little further.
00:36:28.320
And he DMed me. I was a nobody. I was a nothing. I just had this idea and this thread that I wrote.
00:36:35.160
But he DMed me and he said, I want to get you on the show. And he, April 16th of 2020 is when the
00:36:43.140
episode came out, episode 302, tinfoil hat. You'll see JonBenet Ramsey's picture on the front image.
00:36:50.660
That's how you know it's the right episode. But that was my first time ever speaking about any of this.
00:36:55.700
and I, I owe him. He just, I mean, he didn't have to invite me on, but he did, you know, and he's,
00:37:02.940
and that he, he just likes interesting thoughts too. You know, he, he has a really wonderful ability
00:37:10.520
to entertain, entertain, um, all types of, of, of ways of thinking and ways of seeing the world.
00:37:19.000
And I've, I've, I've always appreciated him for that. So shout out Sam Tripoli.
00:37:22.500
Actually on that topic brings me to my next question. And then, and then, um, you know,
00:37:26.680
we can get back on track, but, um, Sam is somebody who entertains all these different ideas and nothing
00:37:32.500
seemingly like offends him. And in that same vein, although on, on episode 302, I said,
00:37:38.720
nobody died on 9-11 and he went, he went a little wild on that. He went a little crazy. He went a little
00:37:43.700
berserk. And then for a couple of episodes after, I love you, Sam. But for a couple of episodes after he
00:37:48.580
was like, this crazy lady named HV came on and said, nobody died on 9-11. We don't believe that.
00:37:55.040
You know, he was, he was pretty, well, for sure. People did die on 9-11 because I lived in New York
00:38:03.400
and I know some people who did. Um, but, uh, that's a, yeah, I don't know. I, I like, I like Sam
00:38:09.060
because he's open to it. He'll be like, you know, he'll let you see him and be like, I don't know.
00:38:11.900
That might've been a bridge too far on, on that, but I get it.
00:38:14.680
Well, this actually brings me to this, this other question that I have on this show. Um,
00:38:19.080
we believe in the biblical narrative and we also believe that there are entities that are outside
00:38:24.480
of the physical human experience. We also think that you should be allowed to say that shit.
00:38:29.280
Like I'm not, I would never jump down your throat. You'd be like, no one died. I'd be like, uh,
00:38:32.880
I know that they did. I'd be like, tell me more, tell me more though. I want to hear why you think
00:38:37.860
that. Um, but on that topic of, of entities, um, it's my contention due to personal experiences
00:38:44.920
and then anecdotal that you collect throughout, you know, interviews and such, um, that there are a,
00:38:51.160
there are entities that feed off of negative energy. So I can't help my mind goes there when
00:38:56.040
you're talking about this exchange and we're mentioning trauma and, and this negative energy,
00:39:01.580
it's all about loose and things of that nature. Is there any room in your mind for the idea that
00:39:05.600
there may be, um, entities of a spiritual nature of a high vibrational energy, uh, nature or a low
00:39:12.220
vibrational nature, um, that we can't see and perceive with the human eye typically, but do exist
00:39:18.960
somewhere in a parallel way with us. Could they be the recipients of this negative energy?
00:39:25.180
I believe, I, I, I can absolutely entertain that. I, I believe that this realm is, I don't think
00:39:33.460
it's as material and solid as we perceive it to be. And I do think that there is some sort of veil
00:39:41.620
that can be, that can be kind of, uh, trespassed through by maybe outside some word for spirits,
00:39:53.600
uh, beings, entities. Um, I know that there's been a lot of talk and ideas around like an archon and
00:40:00.460
an exterior entity called an archon that does is the one that feeds off the, the negative energy.
00:40:04.440
I, I, I do actually believe that there is some, some hunger, a D, a need, a requirement for our
00:40:14.940
energy. Um, and I think, I mean, I, it's hard for me to picture a being without decoupling it from
00:40:23.360
like a human form or an alien or like something, but you know, like what if the, what if the moon,
00:40:30.900
I don't know if I believe the moon is a physical object, but what if the moon is what it's like
00:40:34.280
harvesting? It's like the collection point for all of our, all of our energy. And as the moon's like
00:40:38.800
waxing and waning, it's just kind of, you know, filling up and releasing and filling up and
00:40:43.180
releasing. Um, I do think that there could be something, I don't know what that is, whether it's,
00:40:47.820
um, a being of some sort, an energetic force of some sort, but I do think that there is something
00:40:54.000
collecting the energy that we express and expel willingly and freely. We are constantly giving
00:41:02.840
of our energy. I, you know, one of my neighbors growing up always used to say a penny saved is a
00:41:10.300
penny earned. And then those, those pennies turn into dollars one day. But, um, I believe that is
00:41:16.040
true with our energetic resource, with our currency, with our current of energy. I think that when we can,
00:41:23.280
find ways to disarm these stories, you mentioned it, cutting it off the legs with humor, uh, just
00:41:31.180
not letting the, that sharp edge of the blade cut, cut to ya, but, but disarming, you know, the weapon
00:41:40.400
before it can, before it can do its damage, um, through humor, I think is, is, it really, I said it
00:41:47.520
before, I think it's the best weapon against all of this stuff. And I think that if we can, if we can
00:41:51.680
just, you know, if you read a headline, if you can just kind of go, next, I, that, that's not,
00:41:58.840
that's not even, I'm not even going to give it my time, then you actually have saved something.
00:42:04.140
You've actually retained, uh, the most precious resource on the planet. And I think that that
00:42:10.460
savings, you can then pour it back into your own life, pour it back into what actually matters to
00:42:16.460
you. And that's going to be individual to everybody else. I've been accused of saying
00:42:20.060
like, everything is fake, everything is fake. And I think that that's kind of a, it's a catch all
00:42:24.620
phrase for some of, you know, my efforts. But, um, I, I do think that if you can, if you can mentally
00:42:31.960
disarm the headlines, the stories, the, the, the projections, then there is a, I mean, it may not
00:42:41.960
be measurable, it may not be a physical thing that you can put on a scale and weigh, but I do think
00:42:46.480
that we are, we're saving something. We're saving something very, very, very valuable. And we're able
00:42:53.100
to, to, to truly to use it as, as needed. You know, I've, I've actually found that my life has become
00:42:59.160
much more robust and positive and beautiful, um, magical everything since I have stopped giving all
00:43:08.380
of my attention to conspiracies. Um, and I know that I'm talking about conspiracies right now, but I, I,
00:43:13.320
I am trying to talk about it from another angle, from like, release yourself from these chains,
00:43:18.780
release yourself from these stories. I had to be in it. I mean, before I woke up guys, I was so
00:43:25.140
into, into the Pizzagate, Pedogate. I was reading every Podesta email. I'd seen every single one of them
00:43:32.640
works of art. I knew all the James Elephantases. I knew all the major players. I knew all about the
00:43:37.880
Podesta pig farm up there. And you know, I, I, I would go through and because I could search those
00:43:43.440
letters myself before the, the Podesta emails, because they were available to search, um, the
00:43:48.020
public, the WikiLeaks releases. I felt that I felt that I was truly finding the truth because it, that's,
00:43:55.980
but that's how it was designed. It was designed to make you feel like you were the one discovering
00:43:59.840
these things. Um, the same thing with Q and I was reading every single Q drop and pointing A, B,
00:44:04.560
you know, this, this, that, and the other, and all the time deltas and all the, and, and I do think
00:44:08.500
that there's, um, needles within the haystack of Q. I think that there are apps. I'm not throwing the,
00:44:12.860
the, the baby out with the bathwater. Um, I'm not sure if you guys were into the Q drops and
00:44:16.560
following all of those things, but I do think there's some, we came to a very similar conclusion
00:44:20.120
where we still have, um, people who are well-versed in the Q drops who are still following the
00:44:25.540
community. And we don't typically push back against our guests. We'll allow them to come on and
00:44:29.700
share whatever they have with us because we find things fascinating. And it's, it's our job and the
00:44:33.220
listener's job to pick and choose what you take and what you leave behind. Um, but I agree with
00:44:38.640
that sentiment, HV. It's like within the Q drops, there is, it would never have been as successful
00:44:43.920
as it has been if there was no truth embedded within it. And so, um, but on that, on that topic,
00:44:50.000
there's, there's two things I want to say. And then I have to stop derailing you because we have
00:44:53.460
no, I love it. I guys, I just talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. You got to get me back on track. So
00:44:57.640
thank you. I appreciate it. Actually. The two things that I'd like to address is one, uh, you said that
00:45:02.220
you have a little bit trouble, uh, decoupling this idea of like attributing humanoid aspects
00:45:08.520
to various entities. Do they look like a man? Do they have two arms and a leg and things like
00:45:12.440
that? And I come from that place as well. It was only kind of recently where I turned a corner and
00:45:17.020
I, I realized that, um, if, if we are to accept that there is a fractal nature to our reality,
00:45:23.440
there's an as above, so below, there's this kind of mirroring down to the micro up to the macro,
00:45:28.340
you know, human lungs resembling, uh, uh, trees in, in so many ways, or you're, you know,
00:45:34.580
just the human body in general, right? Your eyes look like the nebulas that NASA keeps feeding us
00:45:39.020
and showing us images of, or, or the veins in your arm look like tributaries of river that spill out
00:45:43.480
into the ocean. There is like a, it looks like your heart, you know? Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
00:45:48.040
There is a fractal nature. Yeah. Everything. Yeah. So I think that, and then when they talk about like,
00:45:52.140
uh, God or the Elohim making us in, in their image, um, I think there is that as above,
00:45:58.700
so below has stuck around for so long because it's like a universal truism. It's, it's a,
00:46:03.120
it's more of a law or an observation about just the nature of things. And so I do think that there's
00:46:08.280
probably plenty of room on the table for these things to, to resemble even us in, in some way,
00:46:12.640
shape or form. Um, but, uh, no, that, and then that's it. That's literally the only thing that I
00:46:17.880
remember I lost everything else. Uh, let's get back onto this. You, you said you had a top five,
00:46:23.160
uh, when it comes to, it comes to JonBenet Ramsey. I'd be very interested in hearing that.
00:46:26.300
So, okay. So the first thing, and you know, I'm not going to go over all of the detail points of
00:46:31.000
the JonBenet Ramsey case. I, I really invite everybody to listen to episode 302 of Tinfoil Hat.
00:46:35.980
It just, it's just such a, that was, it was freshest on my consciousness. It was the passion I had for the
00:46:42.560
details of the case was at the absolute Zenith point at that, at that episode. And, um, that's,
00:46:47.180
that's just a really wonderful, uh, primer and, and background. But there's a couple of things about
00:46:51.720
the, the, the JonBenet Ramsey case that once I started looking into it from the perspective that
00:46:55.720
she did not exist, the, I mean, the detail, the, I like to say it started to fall apart like a $3 watch.
00:47:03.720
The, the, the layers of the onion, the peeling back, they were, it was not a multi-layered onion.
00:47:07.980
It was one shiny facade and then everything else inside was hollow. And the first thing that really
00:47:13.060
tipped me off, um, the pageants, the pageants themselves, like the, the biggest element of
00:47:19.160
the story is that she was a little pageant queen and that she was, she, she had won all of these
00:47:25.400
pageants and she had this, you know, this, this great, you know, um, curriculum vitae of, of pageantry.
00:47:33.040
And she was like the most crowned little girl in all the land. And so I started looking at,
00:47:38.000
at the pageants that she had won. I just started going one by one, looking into the pageants
00:47:41.900
themselves. And these pageants have very specific titles and you can, you can like,
00:47:46.920
I started going one by one, Little Miss Charlevoix, uh, July 4th weekend, 1994. Uh, for some reason,
00:47:53.540
there's no record of any other winner or any other pageants of Little Miss Charlevoix outside of
00:47:59.220
JonBenet's title. So I thought that that was kind of interesting. Same thing with Little Miss Colorado
00:48:03.180
sunburst October, 1994, no record of any other winner or pageant outside of JonBenet, Colorado
00:48:10.420
state all-star kids cover girl, April, 1995, zero record of any other instance of this pageant
00:48:18.740
outside of JonBenet's title year. So what you're highlighting here, HV, is that these things,
00:48:24.380
they just existed for her story and they did not, they do not exist anywhere else. There are,
00:48:28.620
there is no, there is no America's Royale Miss National Beauty. It does not exist as an actual
00:48:36.900
pageant. It's just for her story. So all of these titles that she was supposed to have won
00:48:45.120
didn't really exist except for her. They didn't exist. Nope. No other pageant winners have been
00:48:52.240
crowned with that title. No 1993, no 1998, no 1990. Like they just, all of these pageants just started
00:49:00.660
the year that JonBenet was beginning pageants and then they just ended when she was done with
00:49:04.840
pageants. It seems a little, that seems a little, that seems a little odd. Let's, let's just couch that
00:49:09.840
as an odd detail. There were a few other details. One, one being there is no record of JonBenet's body
00:49:17.360
at the morgue. There's no record of her body at the Boulder County morgue. And the reason for this
00:49:25.080
is said to be that those logbook pages, the ones recording her entrance into the morgue,
00:49:33.340
well, those pages were stolen. Okay. I was going to say they were in the section of the Pentagon that
00:49:38.000
got hit by the plane, right? That was a great second guess. That would have been my first guess
00:49:41.840
two actually. Yeah. Yeah. No, they were, they went down on the Titanic actually. That makes more
00:49:47.500
sense. They're down at the bottom. Yeah. That's where the Titan guys were going. They were going
00:49:51.580
to go find the logbook pages for JonBenet. We were this close. They were this close to cracking open
00:49:55.800
this whole dang thing. Unbelievable. But those, um, and there's a Denver post article. I have a lot of,
00:50:01.560
I, I, I'm happy to share some of these links with you, but this is like my earlier, early research.
00:50:05.480
Um, there's, you can also look, just look for stolen pages, logbook, JonBenet,
00:50:09.100
Ramsey body. If you really want to look all these things. So, um, there was also no record of a death
00:50:14.860
certificate, no record of a burial permit, um, on Larry King live. Uh, this was a, this was one of
00:50:21.580
the only, only major news outlets that the family participated in. This is years after the event. So
00:50:30.320
it happened in December of 1996 in March of 2000, Jon and Patsy Ramsey, the parents, I put that in quotes
00:50:37.780
because I don't necessarily believe that they were, I think they're just characters in this play.
00:50:41.420
Um, they go on to Larry King live to tell their side of the story. And they say specifically that
00:50:48.920
they have never seen nor received a death certificate for their daughter. They, they say it plain as day,
00:50:57.540
which I found to be very odd. But also the story goes is that JonBenet was buried in Marietta,
00:51:05.600
Georgia a few days after her death. Um, which is odd because wouldn't you need like more time for
00:51:12.220
investigations? And that was kind of ongoing, right? I mean, the investigation is still ongoing.
00:51:17.240
Seems a little odd that it was very quickly done. Also to move a body out of state, you have to have
00:51:21.680
a death certificate. And so like it's an, and to bury a body in a cemetery, you have to have a death
00:51:25.620
certificate. So for the parents to say that they have never seen nor received, well then how did she,
00:51:30.640
how did, how do you get her on a plane? How do you, how do you transport the body? How do you bury a body
00:51:35.600
in an actual cemetery? The city, uh, uh, uh, Atlanta and Georgia required to, anyway, blah, blah, blah.
00:51:40.920
Can I ask you this really quickly? Um, the parents, when they're talking on, on Larry King and they're
00:51:45.100
saying that they didn't have a death certificate, what was the tone that they were using? Are they
00:51:48.360
saying this as, as, as a strange aberration or are they saying like just a matter of fact?
00:51:52.860
Matter of fact, we never saw one Larry. And then he goes, and then he doesn't push at all. He doesn't go,
00:51:58.540
well, isn't that interesting? How did you bury your daughter out of state? Have you never had
00:52:03.420
a death certificate? You know, that, so that, that was one thing that I just found. It was just a,
00:52:07.740
something that just went, Hmm. It's all that he would even ask. He, it's, it's, yeah, it's,
00:52:13.500
it's odd that it even came up the death certificate, but I think it had to come up because I think that
00:52:17.840
they have to leave us clues for us to one day find and go, Hmm. This is, this is exactly like the,
00:52:23.600
the, the, the episode that we just did though on, um, on somebody who used it. Yeah. I don't even
00:52:29.260
know if I can say that on YouTube, but, um, just that there was all these strange inconsistencies.
00:52:33.660
I just realized Sandy Hook is abbreviated for shh. Oh, that's fun.
00:52:39.080
Oh no. But, but this idea that like, you know, even, even on that episode, we unpacked all of these
00:52:44.960
inconsistencies that you would never, there's a clerical aspect to, you know, people passing away and,
00:52:51.340
and none of it was handled correctly. Everything was done in a way that was completely against
00:52:55.960
protocol. Um, and nobody really seems to give a damn about that. At least not in the, in the
00:53:01.480
mainstream. Of course, there's a whole underbelly of conspiracy theorists who do, but, um, and that
00:53:06.420
begs a big question. It's like, why, why these inconsistencies? Why are they so obvious? What
00:53:10.780
are you saying? Top? No, I'm sorry. I just, I'm just Googling this. Her mother's name is Patsy
00:53:14.980
and her father's mom. Oh my God. Are you kidding me? Her mother's name is Patsy.
00:53:19.780
Patsy. And she was, she was blamed for much of, she, the character of Patsy Ramsey passed,
00:53:26.320
uh, uh, you know, many years ago, but she was, she was the one that was really, um, under
00:53:31.780
the guise of suspicion for, for quite some time, uh, of at least, you know, putting her
00:53:37.080
into the spotlight of this, of this, you know, depravity with the pageants and then being
00:53:42.640
the one to potentially cover up, uh, the, the, the crime that was, you know, inside the
00:53:48.000
family, you know, she knew that JonBenet was being abused. There was a lot that was
00:53:51.960
put on Patsy and that was all by design. Yeah. That's wild. Okay. Please. I'm sorry to
00:53:57.840
interrupt. Oh, you're, you're good. I love it. Um, okay. The ops autopsy report we
00:54:02.760
mentioned, you know, the death certificate, which is not available, but a lot of
00:54:06.440
people don't really look into that detailed death certificate not being
00:54:09.340
available because the autopsy report is widely available. You can read it in its
00:54:14.600
entirety. Um, something that I found very interesting was, uh, the, the official
00:54:21.440
autopsy report is available very widely, but I found something on the Denver Post's
00:54:25.340
website dated 1996 08 13, which is months before 1996 December. So this is August of
00:54:35.240
1996, August 13th, 1996. The link is still live. I believe. Yep. The link is still live.
00:54:42.080
I'm actually going to put it in the private chat just so you can, you guys can
00:54:44.540
see it. So this is a Denver Post, Denver Post. Um, uh, oh no, they're paywalling it
00:54:52.220
now. Well, anyway, well, okay. It's a Denver, Denver Post. Um, you can see the date
00:54:56.880
actually in the URL. It says 1996 08 13 text of JonBenet autopsy report. How can a text of an
00:55:06.420
autopsy report exist prior to the death? This is insane. These are the type of details that
00:55:14.120
are these inconsistencies. They pop up in so many of these big events. And someone will
00:55:17.420
go, Oh, it's just a filing error, a clerical error. You know, someone uploaded it with the
00:55:22.720
wrong metadata. Of course it was after, but there's something interesting between the two,
00:55:28.560
between this version, which is dated before her death and the actual autopsy, which is the quote
00:55:36.300
unquote official, I say actual, that's the wrong word because it's not real, but the official quote
00:55:41.500
unquote autopsy report, there are differences. There's differences between the two. There's a
00:55:49.000
couple, there's a couple omissions in the first one. Uh, there was some changes around the infamous
00:55:54.060
pineapple that was found in her stomach, which is still an, an element of the story, which leads
00:55:58.940
to much speculation. Um, it's as if the Denver Post one is a rough draft as a rough draft and
00:56:05.340
they smooth everything out on the final. But, um, I found that to be mind blowing, absolutely
00:56:12.280
mind blowing how an autopsy report would exist prior to her death. Um, and that would only really
00:56:19.020
make sense if there was no real death, if this is all just pre designed, manufactured and rolling
00:56:25.200
out to the public. Let's see some other things. Oh gosh. What do you mean by pineapple in her
00:56:31.600
stomach? Like a whole pineapple? There was a, you know, there was some, uh, just a strange
00:56:36.440
element of the story was that she had undigested pineapple in her stomach. Um, and they, uh, you know,
00:56:45.900
the, the, when, when would she have eaten this? Uh, the story goes that she was asleep when her
00:56:50.940
parents brought her home. They had gone to, uh, an, a, an evening Christmas party with a neighbor
00:56:56.200
and then they brought JonBenet home after and she was already asleep and they talked her into bed.
00:57:01.000
Um, and, and, and when would she have eaten this pineapple? Because it couldn't have been digested.
00:57:06.640
It would have already been digested if she had it earlier in the night. So it goes to this like
00:57:10.540
timeline, um, uh, a cloudiness on the timeline of when she would have been, what was she was doing
00:57:18.560
that night and when she could have been murdered. Uh, and, and there's something about the undigested
00:57:25.020
pineapple. It, it, and you can, you can actually look up, I mean, God, there are thousands of web
00:57:30.520
pages dedicated to the pineapple in her stomach. Reddit loves this theory. Reddit loves the pineapple
00:57:35.560
theory. Um, it, it, it actually kind of, many people think that it means her brother did it
00:57:41.340
because they were eating like their favorite snack together. The story goes, the brother got jealous
00:57:45.860
and hit her on the head with a flashlight or something like that. And then the parents
00:57:48.700
tried to cover up. That's one, I don't believe that, but that's, that is one theory that many,
00:57:53.940
many, many, many, many people glom onto and the pineapple kind of supports that because the
00:57:57.840
brother apparently liked pineapple and they were eating it together. Whatever. Um, but I do think
00:58:03.040
it's interesting that the pineapple remains this, this very strange, um, cloudy point in the story
00:58:10.860
and that, you know, strange, cloudy point seems to be inserted. It seems to have been
00:58:15.960
inserted for the, for the purpose of, of clouding, of muddying the waters for decades to, to, to follow.
00:58:24.680
Once again, HV, to that point, um, we found the same exact thing with Sandy Hook. It's like,
00:58:29.960
there's so many obvious misleading, um, strange, you know, idiosyncrasies and they, they seem to be
00:58:38.360
left there for you to catch. I, you know, I used to believe there was a big, bad boogeyman
00:58:44.040
running the show, doing all these things, evil overlords, doing all these things, um, for our
00:58:50.880
detriment. And now I think it's, now I think it's all for our benefit. I think whatever is scripting,
00:58:57.900
this grand meta narrative and I, and I say script, not as like dialogue in a play or movie, but as a
00:59:05.560
script is an auto executing computer code scripted reality. I think that that is more along. I think
00:59:10.680
this is some sort of auto executing play. Um, I think whoever is doing this, whatever is doing
00:59:17.240
this wants us to wake up. I think we're meant to, I truly believe we're meant to see.
00:59:24.960
It's interesting because the pineapple is a symbol of like third eye activation.
00:59:29.960
Absolutely. Yeah. They compare it to the pineal gland. It has a similar appearance. So putting
00:59:35.340
that in a stomach, that's, that's why I asked about it. I was like, that's very interesting
00:59:37.900
that that would be there undigested. I'm glad that you, I'm glad that you picked up on that
00:59:42.180
because it, I think that it is, they didn't, it's not an apple. It's not kiwi. It's not a bowl
00:59:49.060
of grapes. It's pineapple. And I think the pineapple symbol is you just hit the nail on the head. I think
00:59:54.800
that it is absolutely a, a, a, a symbol of our ability to see our, our, our ability to, to truly our
01:00:05.900
third eye, our ability to truly cognate this world around us and appreciate the, the truth and the, the,
01:00:12.060
the, the, you know, reality is such a slippery word. I'm not even sure I have a hard time really,
01:00:18.640
you know, landing on what exactly is real and how you define reality. Because sometimes I think that
01:00:24.540
this whole thing is a video game or maybe a hyper lucid dream state. But I do think that there is
01:00:29.760
an element of discernment that we are able to, I think it's dulled. I think it's dulled to the point
01:00:35.680
of almost, um, complete diminishment for, for many. And, and for much of my life, I was actually
01:00:41.640
just kind of flying blind. You know, I didn't see any of this stuff. I was just, I, you know,
01:00:45.680
I was just taking everything at face value, everything that happened. I believed the, you
01:00:49.080
know, whatever I was told that was the way it was. I, I didn't really, my curiosity, um, until I
01:00:54.480
started getting into conspiracies, I, I just kind of believed everything that I was shown and told.
01:00:58.660
And, and then I started re-seeing the world, but I, but I, I really did. I was, I was stuck on a lot of
01:01:02.980
beliefs that this was all, you know, everything was bad. Everything was evil. And, um, we were
01:01:08.960
stuck and trapped and, and in a way, you know, uh, in a way we might be stuck and trapped, but I, I,
01:01:15.380
I, I think that, I think that the way out is through, um, a recognition, recognize, a re-recognizing,
01:01:24.820
re-cognating the way that we interpret this world. And it, it, there's a free, there's a freedom.
01:01:31.220
There's a, there's an intellectual freedom. There's a spiritual freedom. I think that
01:01:34.720
comes on the other side of these stories. And once you're able to kind of see through,
01:01:39.580
once you're able to see the patterns, like you guys have, you know, the pattern between
01:01:43.040
the, why are there so many similarities between Sandy Hook and JonBenet? Well, because they follow
01:01:48.720
a very specific framework, a very specific design patterning. I call it a template, a capital
01:01:54.960
reality in quotes template. And I think that a lot of these events share, share a narrative
01:02:04.220
framework and share these plot points. And, um, and then there's some, you know, there's
01:02:09.740
some rejigging here and let's, you know, do a new name over here. And, um, and we're talking
01:02:16.520
about the name Patsy. I thought this is kind of fun, but JonBenet Ramsey anagrams to enjoy our
01:02:22.740
basement. And she was found in the basement. Now the, now the R is an R enjoy our basement.
01:02:29.400
So you, you anagram people out there. It's, it's, it's an R I kind of cheat with that,
01:02:32.980
but, um, enjoy our basement. Um, and true. And even like, you know, with the idea of like
01:02:38.460
Freemasons running the world, I see Freemason is like, like free Maison, like a house and
01:02:45.140
our body is a temple. And it's like, I see, I see it kind of as like a, like a, like a wink
01:02:50.700
to see beyond see, see through. And she's always shown in these like Freemason, like pat check
01:02:56.540
patterned dresses and stuff. And, and, and like the basement of a home, I feel like is our, is our,
01:03:01.640
is our most base element of our human self. It's like representing like the lowest form of ourselves.
01:03:07.760
And she was found in the basement. And, um, I think that it's, it's all, I think there's so many
01:03:12.300
metaphors, the pineapple, it's a metaphor, the basement, it's a metaphor. Um, and I think if we can
01:03:18.320
start seeing, seeing through these stories and not getting caught up in the, the netted mesh of all
01:03:26.060
the details and getting trapped in that, in that web and getting caught in that louche, right? That
01:03:30.480
louche, that harvesting of the energy, you know, to your, to your point, I also have gotten, um,
01:03:36.200
to this place in my understanding of things, which is incredibly limited, I'm sure. Uh, but I feel as
01:03:42.360
though we are in, in a, in a realm of sorts. And I recognize that right now we are wrestling with
01:03:48.300
this idea. Is it a simulation? Is it not? I think simulation is too reductive. I do think that that's
01:03:53.660
just, we've gotten so good at like video games and VR and everything that we kind of have this
01:03:59.520
egocentric idea of ourselves that we can, we can look at this obvious creation and we can identify
01:04:06.400
it. And so we, we attribute things like simulation theory to them, but I think that is far too reductive.
01:04:11.220
Whatever's happening here far exceeds our abilities to create a virtual world. Um, and I'm sure we can
01:04:17.500
get to a place one day where we would even look at that terminology and throw it away. But to your
01:04:22.440
point, everything, everything feels like a script unfolding and maybe script isn't the best way to
01:04:29.360
describe it, but I think it's a good placeholder. And through that lens, I have gotten to a place where
01:04:34.160
I do not have any black pilling in me. I do not have any, um, fear in me either. Uh, we, everything
01:04:43.060
that I see, maybe not healthy sparks a bit of joy in me, makes me laugh, makes me laugh and sparks joy
01:04:50.540
in me. And I know that's a horrible thing to say. No, I, I, yeah, but I'm just saying for people that
01:04:56.360
are listening, because it's like, it sounds horrifying to, to find some sort of joy in,
01:05:03.300
in these things unfolding. But every time it does, I, I'm more solidified in my idea that this
01:05:09.880
has all of the, the telltale hallmarks of a script. And if that is true, then there is something far
01:05:17.940
beyond this that we are extreme experiencing right now. And that should give everyone hope.
01:05:22.540
And I know that's such a weird thing. It's like nine 11, nine 11 should make you feel
01:05:28.580
pretty good. But if you start looking into all the details about it, you realize that there is
01:05:33.460
something else that, that is not hijackers with box cutters. They, you know what I mean? No matter
01:05:39.000
what it is, it's not. And, and this is going to bring us to a, I want to, I want you to know where
01:05:43.120
we're going HV. I want you to know what I'm going to ask. Maybe the box cutters was a metaphor for like,
01:05:46.940
we need to think outside the box. We got to get outside. We got to, we got to cut that box open y'all.
01:05:50.880
So, so there's something that I'm going to ask you and I'm going to, I'm going to do
01:05:54.360
you a service and let you know what I'm going to ask you, but I don't want to address it yet.
01:05:57.520
I want you to continue what you're doing. What I'm going to ask you towards the end of this is
01:06:01.260
what does this mean for Epstein's Island and child trafficking? Because I think I have an idea of
01:06:08.840
what you're going to say. And I think that it's going to resonate with me in a way that
01:06:13.680
goes back to what I just alluded to this script, this unfolding of things. There are
01:06:19.140
certain elements that are in play that are going to unfold like a script. And if you fall for the
01:06:24.460
script, then maybe that is, but, but that's where I'm going HV. And we're not going to go there yet.
01:06:28.320
Please. I got it. I got it tucked back here. Okay. All right. Because that, I think I have a
01:06:33.140
feeling in my gut that these things play together very well. So let's hop back on the JonBenet Ramsey
01:06:39.020
the, uh, idiosyncrasies, the things that, that stick out to you. Okay. Another one was just her
01:06:44.860
dad's story, Jon Ramsey. Oh, I'll do a quick one on the, on Patsy, the mom. So the mom was also
01:06:50.460
supposed to be, um, a pageant queen herself that runs in the family. Um, but I had a real hard time
01:06:59.160
tracking down any documentation of her pageantry as well. Uh, she was supposed to have won Miss
01:07:07.220
West Virginia, 1977, no official documentation of this other than her Wikipedia page. Um, and Miss
01:07:15.540
America, 1978, she was supposed to have, um, you know, walked in that, uh, pageant. Again, the, that, for
01:07:26.180
some reason, that Miss America was the only one not televised, um, by NBC. It aired on CBS, but then it
01:07:33.140
was pulled, uh, there was a weird thing with that particular year. Um, the only photo available of
01:07:39.960
Patsy participating in the pageant looks absolutely nothing like her. Um, and so I just felt, I was like,
01:07:47.060
this is such a similar strange dead end with the mom. Like the daughter's pageants, weird, strange dead
01:07:54.160
end. The mom's pageant, weird, strange dead end. I noticed that her obituary actually put the wrong
01:07:59.560
year. It said she had won, um, it said she was in the 1977 Miss America, not to, not to 1978. So her own
01:08:08.300
obituary, I feel like, was not in coordination with, with things that had been previously reported
01:08:14.640
about her through the official, through the family's official channels. So just a lot of, um, just a lot
01:08:21.600
of, uh, strange goings on with that, um, with the pageants, more pageant, uh, fakery. And then John Ramsey,
01:08:27.420
the father, and his name is John Bennett Ramsey. And that's how John Benet Ramsey. Um, like, I think
01:08:34.600
his, he's, he's, he's also a character. Let me caveat that. But, um, the daughter, that's how the
01:08:39.540
daughter's name was devised, designed. Um, so it's a very stupid name. It's a very stupid name. And it's
01:08:46.640
also a name that it's never existed before. And this is something, this is kind of something when
01:08:51.000
you're looking into some of the victims of nine 11 or, or just some of the victims of,
01:08:55.500
of any big old thing. A lot of the names are remarkably unique. Never heard of a name like
01:09:03.440
that before. Literally have never seen that combination of first and last name. Never seen
01:09:07.420
that last name before. Never seen that first name before. Like strange spellings are just,
01:09:11.180
uh, incorrect. It's almost as if the auto executing script is using some sort of random name generator
01:09:18.560
for some of these, some of these. Well, it almost seems more than random name generators,
01:09:23.540
right? Because it's like, you think about Anthony Wiener in the laptop situation. It's like,
01:09:27.120
you know what I mean? Yes. It's, it's, it's less of an, yeah, it's these things that on their face,
01:09:32.420
they're tells and it, they're then, and then there's a humor. Even Jeffrey Epstein. Teen.
01:09:36.980
Yes. So there's always this, and what's really funny is it lends itself. What's that top?
01:09:42.260
Bernie Madoff made off with the money. Incredible. Right. And that's what I love about it is there's
01:09:46.360
always a, a comedic bent. I just find that funny. Like Anthony Wiener is very funny. Uh,
01:09:52.460
Bernie Madoff is very funny. There's a pun hidden in these things. Enjoy our basement. That's funny.
01:09:57.660
Yeah. I find, I find these lizard people leads to be very funny. It's just, it's tragic that
01:10:04.160
who said that lizard people don't have senses of humor. I don't believe that. I think they're
01:10:08.520
very funny. He said the cold-blooded can't, can't meme. Yeah, exactly. Um, so yeah, I don't know
01:10:13.520
what that is, but I, I, I agree with you. I always look to that and, and people get, you know, if
01:10:18.880
you're in a simulation theory or whatever, um, or if you're disenchanted with Christian ideology,
01:10:23.340
the word God is such a loaded terminology for a lot of people. They recoil at it. Some people do,
01:10:28.680
but it's like, if this is really some sort of a simulation, if this is a realm that we live in,
01:10:35.100
we're meant to be here. We're meant to be tested. We're being exposed to a script. Um, the,
01:10:40.640
the one who's created all this has a sense of humor. It seems we have to do one more jizz lane,
01:10:48.840
funniest sex traffic, like a lane, a lane of a highway jizz. Uh, we all know what that is jizz lane,
01:10:56.920
isn't it? You know, named jizz lane. It's incredible. It's incredible. It doesn't get
01:11:04.580
better. I mean, yeah, we, we, there's just a never ending supply of little comedic moments
01:11:09.260
in tragedy, I suppose. Yeah. Well, I mean, that goes to the theater mask tragedy and comedy
01:11:14.740
together in one. And I think that, um, you know, theater is, is sort of a, uh, again,
01:11:22.280
I think you hit the nail on the head. We're saying we don't have a correct vocabulary for this sort
01:11:26.200
of things. The, the words simply fall short. The word simulation simply falls short and it's been
01:11:31.460
dulled and deadened and doesn't even have any meaning anymore. Kind of like the word quantum.
01:11:35.940
We just hear that word. What does that even fucking mean? It doesn't mean anything. It means
01:11:40.200
nothing. It truly means nothing. I think Sam Tripoli said it. It means we don't know what the
01:11:44.040
fuck it means. Like that's just what it, that's what it means. That's what it means. Yeah. It means
01:11:47.680
nothing to us now. Same thing with the word universe. It's hard to, it's hard to imagine the word
01:11:52.300
universe without some sort of galactic outer space, you know, vast, uh, uh, you know, ever
01:12:01.000
expanding, you know, which by the way has been given to us by Hollywood, the propaganda machine,
01:12:05.740
right? Anything essentially Disney. Yeah. So anything that you have in your mind about space
01:12:10.500
and, and galaxies or, or anything like that, even this, this, you know, UFO situation, it seems
01:12:16.100
they're always trying to do disclosure. It's like, that's all been given to us by Hollywood.
01:12:19.600
We have no, no actual firsthand experience with any of these elements that are so
01:12:24.940
second nature to us. Aliens, galaxies, stars, solar systems, all that stuff.
01:12:30.560
They really, the alien is ramping up y'all. And I know that you guys have some inside baseball on,
01:12:35.380
on all of this and I'm looking forward to listening to your talk.
01:12:38.220
For the ones who are listening live, um, we'll be on Sam Tripoli's today at, at 3 PM. Uh, if,
01:12:44.120
if those of you who are listening after the fact, please tell them I said hello.
01:12:46.940
Of course we will. Of course we will. Oh man. But yeah. And at the alien, you know, the,
01:12:54.280
so outer space is, is if we could, if we could take five on outer space, you know, I, I think that
01:13:01.920
I personally don't believe in a galactic outer space. I don't know what's outside of this realm.
01:13:06.280
Um, whether there is anything physically, tangibly, uh, uh, uh, traversably, you know,
01:13:11.620
that we could actually ever get to outside of this realm. I'm not, I'm not, I don't know,
01:13:15.540
but I do not believe in the galactic outer space that we have been taught and told of. I think that,
01:13:19.660
I think that there is something, I think that we teach children about outer space and dinosaurs
01:13:26.760
specifically for two, for really for two reasons. And they kind of, they're the same. So outer space,
01:13:31.620
it frames this, this idea of, of a grandness, a grand out there where all of the answers and all
01:13:42.400
of the, the, the existence began, all the answers lie in a grand out there. We must travel out there
01:13:50.860
to fully understand what's in here. And then dinosaurs solidify a far backness. So space is a far
01:13:58.660
outness and dinosaurs is a far backness. They kind of established this, this deep time. I don't
01:14:05.140
necessarily believe in outer space and I don't necessarily believe in, in deep history. I think
01:14:10.200
that both are devices to keep us ever looking here now within for the answers, for the truth,
01:14:23.140
for the direction. Um, I think that we have been, we have been tricked to looking up and out or back and
01:14:31.620
deep in, you know, just we, any, anywhere, but here, anywhere, but here, anywhere, but now, anything to
01:14:38.100
keep us believing that we are just tiny little specks of dust and the, you know, just nothingness,
01:14:43.620
you know, it doesn't even matter if you're alive. It's just a, not even a blip on the radar. It's just,
01:14:48.740
you don't even matter whatsoever. That's kind of what science wants us to believe. So you always
01:14:55.060
have a position to be small and insignificant. Yes. Ramsey. That's a big Z. By the way, I hate to
01:15:04.100
derail the derailment, but we have like people in the chat here and they, they pay to be here,
01:15:08.580
but they love you. They're actively fighting over your hand in marriage. I'm like, all right guys,
01:15:14.260
she's just doing an episode. I don't believe in marriage these days. I am a divorced woman. Uh,
01:15:21.940
I think some of my theories might've cost me a marriage. Um, it was, it was only part of it,
01:15:30.340
but it is, it is kind of hard to see that often though. You saw that with like the whole
01:15:33.940
COVID thing that, that really split families apart. Um, these, these bigger ideas,
01:15:39.620
they're dangerous in that way. They drive a wedge oftentimes between you and people who aren't ready to
01:15:44.980
yeah, to entertain them. Um, but okay. So yeah, I mean, this is, yeah, I've been watching them. No,
01:15:57.780
I've been watching this entire time. I've been watching this. I'm lucky people. Usually I tell
01:16:00.980
them, I'm like, please stop hitting on the guests. And it's usually men that they hit on. I'm like,
01:16:04.260
all right, but now it's like, I don't know. I don't know. They're usually actually, if you ever pay
01:16:07.780
attention to the, the chat, um, on our show, they're actually some of the, the worst people, uh,
01:16:13.300
saying the most horrific things. Um, but there are people. So, so where, where were we trolls?
01:16:20.020
I mean, oh, that's literally all we've attracted is the most and, and elite level trolls, by the way,
01:16:26.500
they're all like really good at what they do. Um, hilarious people. So, so I agree with that though,
01:16:32.500
this idea that like, for some reason we are, and I love the way you put it, it's, it's made to make you
01:16:36.420
feel small, but it's also made to make you look outward at some unachievable distance for answers
01:16:41.780
or some unachievable place in the past for answers. Um, and it is weird that we always like,
01:16:48.420
we don't just give kids outer space and dinosaurs. We give them in conjunction. Like, I'm pretty sure
01:16:53.540
my son has like a T-Rex with a space helmet on and outer space. It's so funny by the way that they do
01:16:59.620
that. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. I don't like it. I don't like it, but dinosaurs objectively are cool.
01:17:05.940
I mean, it's just, and it's like from me and David, we come from like a more biblical perspective.
01:17:14.580
It's actually funny how we're coming from sort of like a, from a slightly different angles,
01:17:20.180
but I agree with everything that she's saying. Yeah. We're arriving at the same conclusion. I'm like,
01:17:24.100
I just think dinosaur, like the bones that they do find, they haven't really found any to create,
01:17:28.980
uh, they all just started getting found in like the 1800s. Those things were put there,
01:17:32.500
you know? Okay. Why aren't we finding bones of humans literally everywhere? If there's,
01:17:38.420
okay, if there's 8 billion people on the planet, which means, you know, you can do that to a factor
01:17:43.380
of, of X. I'm not, again, I'm not really good at math, but, um, you know, all the totality of humans
01:17:48.820
that have ever lived, you should be kicking up a bone every single time you are in an open field.
01:17:55.140
There should just be bones. Remember this everywhere, by the way, uh, gasoline, oil,
01:18:00.100
liquid dinosaurs. Oh, absolutely. It's not. And that was one of my first conspiracies. Actually,
01:18:05.780
my dad, um, he was in the oil industry. He did deep water exploration. He worked on those,
01:18:11.860
those, you know, those deep water rigs. Did he come to you and say, never once have I liquefied
01:18:15.700
a dinosaur? Yeah. Close. He did say he was like, never once has a capped well ever actually stopped
01:18:24.020
producing. You know, if it, if it seems to run dry, all you got to do is put a cap on it,
01:18:28.500
come back. It's pumping again. Correct. Oil does not run out. He, he, he explained to me
01:18:36.260
when I was very young, actually, I, I was like, okay, I don't know what this means, but he was
01:18:39.780
explaining to me about OPEC, you know, the oil producing exporting countries, and they have this
01:18:43.380
agreement. And, and OPEC is really the mechanism. It's just like a hand on a hose. When they want to
01:18:50.420
restrict the supply, they just put their little hand on the hose and the supply is restricted. It
01:18:56.180
has nothing to do with the total available amount of oil, of petroleum, of natural gas, of any of these
01:19:04.580
power sources, of any of these fossil fuels, which is, it's false. Fossil.
01:19:09.780
Fossil fuels. Oh my God. It's always in the world.
01:19:13.220
And it, you know, it's really just, um, same thing with diamonds, guys. Diamonds are not
01:19:20.340
objects of great value. It's just that the supply has been completely, uh, taken over by De Beers,
01:19:29.060
essentially the, the, the diamond company. Um, and the supply is what keeps the market, uh, afloat.
01:19:36.180
That and, and excellent marketing, uh, making it synonymous with marriage is, is an incredible
01:19:41.860
marketing tool. I mean, it's, it really is genius. And, and by the way, on this topic of dinosaurs
01:19:46.260
and space, I think that it's very interesting that, um, these things are, our opinions of them
01:19:52.660
were given to us basically by, by two schools and you can say archeology, but, but predominantly we're
01:19:57.780
talking NASA and we're talking Hollywood, which by the way, those two in conjunction have laid the
01:20:02.820
foundation for everything that we believe loosely about aliens. NASA and Hollywood are the two
01:20:09.060
number one funnels through which the information flows to us forming our opinions on what extraterrestrials
01:20:14.980
are beneath, you know, benign space brothers that are going to come and save us, whatever,
01:20:19.380
whatever the case may be. Um, this is all fed to us by NASA and Hollywood. And outside of that,
01:20:25.220
we don't generally speaking, have any knowledge on these things, knowledge, uh, on these things
01:20:34.100
that didn't come from those two sources. Right. You know, in the source material, I'm so glad you
01:20:39.060
referenced that because it reminds me of one of my favorite episode, one of my favorite podcast
01:20:44.100
episodes. Um, it's a truth seeker named John Laban, and he was a guest on the higher side chats.
01:20:51.220
It's a 2018 episode. I don't know the number of it, but it was, it was 2018 John Laban and they're
01:20:58.580
talking about the history hoax. And he goes so beautifully into the, the documentation sources,
01:21:07.940
how they, you know, if you, if you look at the documentation and then you look at that reference
01:21:12.500
point and where that documentation came from, and then you look at that reference point in that
01:21:15.300
documentation, it ends, it all just ends. And there's, there's like this single singular kind
01:21:21.620
of like point of manufacture where all of these references and proofs of, of the dinosaurs
01:21:28.660
discoveries and a lot of the historical discoveries, they all just run. It all just runs out. If you,
01:21:34.660
if you keep looking into, if you are like, okay, let me pull this reference and then, okay, well,
01:21:38.900
let me pull how weird that reference came from. And let me then pull where that reference came from.
01:21:43.860
There's, there's a brick wall that you run into. It all just stops. And, and that was,
01:21:48.660
I was listening to him early in my, um, early in my awakening and something about that. It just really,
01:21:55.540
it really, really resonated with me and really, really clicked. And to this day,
01:21:58.100
it's one of my favorite podcast episodes of all time. John Laban, history hoax, uh, episode three,
01:22:04.340
four, three. Okay. Great. They're good. Aren't they good? See, they're terrible people,
01:22:07.780
but they're also very good. I love y'all. They're also very good. Um, okay. So
01:22:11.780
I I'd like to bring it into this, this conversation that I alluded to before
01:22:17.940
we talked about Q that really plays with the Epstein situation. We are at a moment in time
01:22:24.900
where despite your, your school of thought, everybody's pointing to this moment in time as
01:22:31.380
a big change is kind of unfolding. And you could look at that in a strictly political way and go,
01:22:37.700
well, Donald Trump is taking office. Um, his administration is going to change things up.
01:22:42.180
Uh, but, but, but there's a lot of other angles, right? Uh, Helena Blavatsky pointing to 2025 as
01:22:48.180
being this beginning of the age of Aquarius. Trump is talking about bringing us into the golden age.
01:22:54.340
The QAnon folks are waiting on bated breath for these big revelations to unfold. Now that
01:23:00.340
Trump is, is back in power. Uh, we talked earlier. Yeah. We talked earlier about the, and, and to our
01:23:06.580
audience, we've talked ad nauseam about the cliff high predictions. Um, basically just predicting that
01:23:11.940
this would be a time of great shift and, um, we're going to have some UFO events unfold, whether or not
01:23:17.940
that's the New Jersey situation is, is yet to be seen, but there are a lot of things that are pointing to
01:23:22.180
this. My idea is not a belief is more of an idea and observation. I go, I do think we're going to
01:23:31.540
see an unfolding of these Q predictions. I think that we're going to see the Epstein situation get
01:23:39.060
brought back up. I think we're going to see Diddy. Diddy stuff is, is 50 shades of Epstein, you know,
01:23:44.820
and it's, it's kind of the same with the Diddy list and the Epstein list. Correct. It's very similar.
01:23:49.380
However, the lens that I'm looking at this through is that it is not genuine. Right. I think that it
01:23:55.620
is a script. And I think that this part of the story is, is, is made to bolster the character that,
01:24:01.220
that is Donald Trump. Um, I don't find, and I, and I like him by the way. I think he's funny. Um,
01:24:06.500
I like the policies. I didn't like the Biden administration. I don't believe in politics.
01:24:09.860
I think at the highest level it's theater because I think that this entire realm is some form of
01:24:13.620
theater. Does that resonate with you? Do you see this Epstein case? So you're talking about like
01:24:19.140
JonBenet Ramsey having seemingly not existed. The first place I looked, um, a couple,
01:24:26.500
sorry, a couple of days ago, Trump announced on his first day, he'll release the full Epstein
01:24:31.220
client list. Wow. And he also mentioned paper, just text on screen. We'll see. He mentions JFK,
01:24:37.780
that list, which he said he would do, but it was heavily redacted. He also said, uh,
01:24:42.020
things about nine 11 again. I don't know if we'll get this stuff, but Hey, let's see.
01:24:48.100
Let's see. Yeah, we shall see. Um, the Sandy hook thing. It looks like these kids also nothing
01:24:54.740
happened. Are we doing the same thing here? Are we taking the, the heart wrenching leverage point
01:25:02.260
of crimes against children, getting you emotionally involved this Island, all these things that went
01:25:08.420
down there, all these celebrities and politicians who go there. And are we about to, these things
01:25:14.900
seem like trial runs in comparison to the effect that Epstein level revelations would have on the
01:25:21.540
public. Um, any thoughts on this? Well, you know, Epstein is such an interesting character. Uh,
01:25:29.620
that's the second place I looked after I, after I had this kind of mind breaking open and I had this
01:25:36.260
realization that John has little doll looking back at me was not a real girl, but, um, kind of this,
01:25:42.740
this amalgamation, uh, the CGI amalgamation of features. Um, then I started looking other places.
01:25:48.820
I started looking down all the other corridors. And the first place I looked was at the Epstein story.
01:25:54.820
And I, you know, not that long before I was so, I was down in the tunnels, truly. Like I,
01:26:03.300
I, you know, looking at the CCTV tape and you could see what looked to be like Hillary walking around,
01:26:08.660
you know, on those CCTV tapes. And then there was like one, you know, channel on the bottom corner
01:26:12.980
that seemed to show people sitting on buckets, eating baby flesh or whatever. I, I, I couldn't
01:26:18.660
have believed that more. And, and when he died, you know, when he quote unquote did not hang himself
01:26:25.780
in prison, you know, I, I just believed that this, I, I believed that we were, you know, I,
01:26:33.620
I thought that the, the baddies were, were winning. I truly believed that, you know, that all of the,
01:26:40.260
all of the, the truth was, had died with, with Epstein and we were never going to find out what
01:26:45.140
really happened. And, um, or did he kill himself or didn't he kill himself? And, and, because I truly
01:26:50.740
believed that he was a real entity, um, at the top of this, that at the top of this, like chain of,
01:26:57.300
of evilness and, and so many things were flowing through him. And if we could just,
01:27:01.620
you know, nab Epstein, then all these other things would be solved.
01:27:06.420
That's what, um, Netflix did. Netflix came out with that documentary and really solidified us in
01:27:12.180
Yeah. And it's these documentaries, guys, it's just reinforcing of, of narratives. They're not real.
01:27:19.940
They're not, the JonBenet documentary. It's just to reinforce narratives in the mind, to keep it alive,
01:27:25.140
to keep the, the, the narratives alive. Same, yeah, I think, same thing with Epstein. Just when we start
01:27:29.540
to forget about Epstein, they're going to re, they're going to rejake him. But I don't, I believe
01:27:33.700
Epstein Island was essentially a movie set. I believe that, yes, there is a physical island named
01:27:38.260
Little St. James. And yes, there is a physical, there was physical, uh, structures on, on the island.
01:27:45.940
Uh, but I believe that they were just like, uh, uh, very cheap set pieces. You know, that striped,
01:27:52.660
um, you know, the temple all with the, with the, the golden dome and the blue and white stripes.
01:27:58.180
Well, it was just, just as in theater, like you paint on the doors. You don't actually have to have
01:28:03.540
real physical doors. You just paint them on. They were painted on doors, just like a theater set.
01:28:08.260
The little gold dome, nothing blew off. That wasn't, that wasn't a real structure. That was just a
01:28:12.340
little, you know, cheap applique on top. There, there, a lot of the, a lot of the visuals that
01:28:19.060
you can see, there was like these, these guys that got access to the island and flew their drone all
01:28:23.220
around. Yeah. Yeah. I remember them running around, like in fear of getting caught. And they were like,
01:28:28.500
doing kind of like, uh, you know, man on the street footage and like, we gotta get out of here before
01:28:32.180
somebody finds us. And like, that never sat well with me. Right. And there were these fake ambulances,
01:28:36.820
you know, and that kind of led to, oh, they must, you know, they must need the ambulances because
01:28:41.540
yeah, look at the, look how. It is kind of small when you think about it, right?
01:28:49.700
And okay. So that, see that writing, go back to that picture. So that writing on the side, um,
01:28:54.100
see there's like red writing, uh, or red symbols. There's like a square symbol. Yeah. So that actually,
01:29:00.500
yeah, on the pavers. So if you look at that one on the back from above, it looks like the word pedo.
01:29:06.820
Oh yeah. Cause they're just advertising it. Uh huh. And it was just,
01:29:11.780
it's, it feels, and actually there's a, there's another truth seeker. His name is, um,
01:29:15.540
James true. And he wrote a thread about Epstein Island as a movie set. Um, and I, I, I feel that
01:29:24.340
deeply. I think that, I think that everything related to Epstein and, and, and let me just say,
01:29:31.300
I do believe bad things happen in the world. I do believe that that bad things happen to children.
01:29:36.100
Um, I do think that there is great, great, I think that hurt people, hurt people. And then there's
01:29:41.620
a lot of hurt in this world. And so there's a lot of, um, there's a lot of fallout from that.
01:29:45.860
Okay. That is right. Uh, Luke Rutkowski was the guy that was flying the drone over Epstein.
01:29:50.260
Oh, he was one of the, that's hilarious. That was Luke. Yeah. We're going on his show. Uh,
01:29:56.340
we've been on his show twice. I, yeah, I know him. Maybe I'm going to press him on the next time.
01:30:02.260
I just want to say that this does, it resonates with me so much because like I said, we, we,
01:30:08.500
we came to this place recently, myself certainly where this is, this is all a script. This is all
01:30:15.140
theater playing out. There's just no way there's so many unexplainable things that fit well when you
01:30:21.060
consider it's a script. And if you remove that element, then they don't make any damn sense at
01:30:24.980
all. And that's like over and over and over again. So, I mean, I hear what you're saying. Yes. Hurt
01:30:30.660
people hurt people. And there are, um, I think it happens very close to home. And when it does happen,
01:30:38.420
you believe it can happen globally. I think a lot of people, I think a lot of, a lot of trauma does
01:30:42.580
happen. You know, it's, it's a no, I don't really believe necessarily in stranger danger,
01:30:46.900
but I do think that things can happen very close to home. A lot of, a lot of violence is people that,
01:30:50.900
that you are in your circle, you know, domestic violence or inter family, familial to violence and
01:30:57.140
abuse and things like, I think that as I'm, you know, as much as I don't want to even think about
01:31:01.780
that, I do, I do know that it happens. Um, and I think because it does happen on a very close
01:31:06.100
element, like people are hurt. People do get hurt in their lives. If they hear a story about global
01:31:13.620
child trafficking, they will believe it because they know that it can exist. I think that, I think
01:31:20.260
that these, you know what this is like, I have this analogy for what we might see when it comes to this,
01:31:24.580
like UFO disclosure and how, how great would it be if they did a conjunction of like, everybody's
01:31:30.740
waiting for, for project blue beam and whether or not that's even a valid concern is still out
01:31:36.500
there. But this idea that they have like hologram technology, let's play with that for a second.
01:31:39.620
What if you had two functioning nuts and bolts drones that did do damage that did do things that
01:31:47.700
happen in a physical way, but you also projected an image of thousands of non physical drones,
01:31:54.020
people would never be able to differentiate between the ones that were real and the ones that were fake.
01:31:58.980
And the idea that you would even call them fake would be ridiculed. So what if you had a situation
01:32:04.180
where like, yeah, there is trafficking and there are nuts and bolts aspects, real physical
01:32:09.060
ramifications. But what if you then created a smoke screen of this happening on a scale that would,
01:32:16.420
you know, shut your body down. If you found out about it, this is what HV is talking about.
01:32:20.260
Like with all this stuff, I, I kind of, I agree with you, HV, where a lot of this stuff is just
01:32:25.220
smoke and mirrors. But what, what these people seem to do all the time is they never let a good
01:32:30.340
tragedy go to waste. So there's, there's always like 10 things that they can do. So
01:32:35.860
let's like with, with the UFO idea, could there be some kind of radiation they're picking up on?
01:32:41.780
Yes. Could this also be a great opportunity to terrorize people and tell them, well, we don't
01:32:46.020
know what's going on. Could this be a good, a good time to stoke inflammation, to inflame Iran and blame
01:32:52.180
other countries? Yes. So check, check, check, check, whatever I can do to continue to, you know,
01:32:58.660
inflame the, the society's brain and have them spinning in circles, not knowing where they're
01:33:03.540
going. Perfect. But I'm also doing something else. You know what I mean? It's just like,
01:33:08.580
yeah, it's, it is brilliant, but it's also kind of cheap. They're like, why let, why just use this
01:33:13.220
psyop to do one thing? We'll do 10 things with it. And it works great.
01:33:17.060
It's like those infomercials, but wait, there's more, you know,
01:33:21.140
don't say that actually. It's like, this is just a slap chop.
01:33:23.460
This is just a slap chop. It slices, it dices, it'll cut through a shoe.
01:33:29.220
Finally, a knife that'll cut through my shoe. Finally, I need it.
01:33:33.860
So, so what do you think then? Um, and I'm just asking you to speculate, uh, what, what,
01:33:40.980
how do you think this gets resolved? Because like top saying, you never let a good, um,
01:33:45.060
um, you know, disaster go without being taken advantage of. And so, um, we have this really
01:33:52.580
wonderful chess piece on the board in the form of, of Epstein. Um, and we know that it, it ties
01:34:00.100
in to Donald Trump so intimately. Um, do you see a resolution coming to this? Are they going to give
01:34:08.260
us like our final curtain call on this bit of theater that we're watching? Or, or do you think
01:34:13.220
that this one never gets resolved like a JonBenet Ramsey case? We continue to loose the public.
01:34:19.460
Great question. Of course, I do not have the answer to this, but I have, I have some thoughts.
01:34:24.660
Um, you know, I, I think that the, the illusion, I'll call it the spell. I think the spell is powered
01:34:33.380
by our belief. And the more that believe in the spell, the more that believe in the stories for face
01:34:40.500
value, the more that believe that JonBenet Ramsey was murdered on the basement of her family home,
01:34:43.940
the more people believe that Epstein Island was a location for untold level of depravity. Um,
01:34:50.900
the more people that believe that these alien drones in New Jersey are out to get them. Um,
01:34:56.420
the more people that believe that the stronger the spell is, the more powerful the illusion that the
01:35:02.820
delusion is. As our belief wanes, and I think it is, I think it, I think it's actually more and more by
01:35:09.620
the day, I think more people are going, Hmm, that doesn't make sense. Oh, Hmm, maybe that crazy
01:35:15.620
lady HP is onto something with us not being real. And, Hmm, you know, finding a bit of maybe laughing
01:35:20.420
at the headline instead of letting it, you know, I believe that tower seven fell from an extreme case
01:35:29.540
of FOMO. Oh, I'm going down too. Y'all are having so much fun. Me too. That was great. Fell out of
01:35:37.540
sympathy. I love that. Um, I just, yeah, I do. I, I believe that, you know, I kind of think the reason
01:35:46.420
things are getting a little bit more wacky, let's say a little bit more transparently comical is
01:35:54.020
because the machine, the mechanism is losing power is losing our belief. The spell is powered by our
01:36:03.380
belief. I think less and less people are actually buying into these narratives. It's a, it's a very,
01:36:08.260
I think it's a, it's a micro minority at the moment, but I know I've, we've got hundreds of
01:36:13.460
people in the realized radio audience that are kind of at least capable of, you know, if I don't
01:36:18.980
need everyone to believe everything that I say and have like a discipleship on, on all of my theories
01:36:24.980
and thoughts, a lot of, I'm just, I'm, I'm working this out for myself as well. And so that's not what
01:36:30.580
I'm looking for is everyone to believe all the words that I say, but I, what I do hope and what
01:36:35.380
the aim always is, is that there is something that I say that will help someone see things differently
01:36:40.900
for themselves, whatever it is, whatever avenue or angle. I, I, I, I think sometimes I'm, I'm just
01:36:46.340
teaching people how to see how, how I see I'm showing, I'm, I'm showing people how I see.
01:36:50.500
And through that, sometimes I think that it helps people themselves see. And so I know just,
01:36:55.140
just anecdotally that there are hundreds of people and, and thousands of people,
01:36:59.620
if you just count all the DMS I've received over the years from all the socials,
01:37:03.140
there are thousands of people who no longer buy in lock, stock and barrel to these official narratives.
01:37:10.820
And I think that slowly and steadily, and then I think more rapidly now and quicker and quicker
01:37:19.780
and quicker, we are going to see a disillusion of the illusion. I think we're going to see a
01:37:27.300
breaking of the spell. Um, and I think the absurdity will just ramp up. The absurdity will
01:37:32.980
continue to escalate until it is seen by all. I, I recognize that within the Bible, you have
01:37:39.940
a lot of, um, issues with translations and alterations. And there are those who believe
01:37:45.620
that the Bible can't be altered, um, because it is the living word of God. Uh, there was an episode
01:37:51.140
recently on tinfoil hat where, uh, one of his guests bought up a lot of Mandela effects that are in the
01:37:58.260
Bible. And I'm not saying that you have to believe in that guy. Uh, I'm just saying he lays out a
01:38:03.540
compelling case, maybe worth looking into things that people remember that the Bible said, and then
01:38:08.180
turns out that's not the case at all. Even according to him, theologians or, or pastors or
01:38:13.940
whoever who have been in, in the field for 40 years are misremembering things. Um, but what I will
01:38:20.740
say is that there are so many things in it that I think it is an incredibly effective tool. If you
01:38:28.900
can break away from the truncated version that Christianity or the church has given people in
01:38:34.740
recent decades or generations and start to develop a relationship with it, because it almost is like
01:38:40.740
a book you can develop a relationship with. Now, that being said, I just find it fascinating that the
01:38:45.380
prophetic ending is called revelation. And when people hear that, that has this connotation of
01:38:51.140
like apocalyptic vibes, right? Like the book of revelation is about, you know, the doom and gloom
01:38:57.780
and all these horrible things. But I think that, that key component there, that word being revelation,
01:39:03.220
that, that reveal, it just feels like, and look, admittedly, we're in the time of revelations right
01:39:08.580
now. That's, I feel like that's how I feel. Yeah. And, and I think that even that is like a joyous
01:39:13.780
occasion. Remember I said, we kind of lost our minds and we've come out of the other end.
01:39:17.140
And the trumpeters, you know, the horns will, we got Trump with the horns of truth will blare and
01:39:22.660
you know, all, all will be seen. And apocalypse does not mean fiery destruction or, or, you know,
01:39:28.420
you see, you think of the word apocalypse talking about these, these, these languages that we have
01:39:33.140
miscues on. You think of apocalypse and it's like fiery destruction, everything crumbling.
01:39:37.300
Apocalypse simply means to uncover or reveal. That's all that's what it means.
01:39:42.820
There is an element of, of destruction, right? And, and certainly even those who believe that
01:39:47.140
we're in the Kali Yuga, the Kali Yuga comes to an end by fire. In revelation, God has destroyed the
01:39:54.020
the world once by water. Won't do that again. Next time it'll be by, by fire. There are a lot of
01:39:59.140
consistencies across different belief systems. Fire is cleansing. Right. And it's just, if you can come
01:40:05.620
around to a point where I know that sounds horrifying, but think about the greater implications of what it
01:40:10.660
means for us on a, on a spiritual level, this corporeal physical form that we inhabit, uh,
01:40:16.580
restricted to this realm in so many ways, all the things in, in it, all the ways in which this realm
01:40:21.620
is, you know, despicable. I mean, it's, it's a beautiful experience. It truly is, but there are
01:40:26.420
all these horrors that we're all keen to. Um, this means in the end, if you believe the book of revelation,
01:40:32.820
that God ultimately gets what he intended for us in the first place. And then in hindsight,
01:40:38.340
you look at this entire thing as, as an amazing experience that we've gone through this, this
01:40:46.020
entire human history, um, living through this script, that scripture, that's why they call it
01:40:52.180
scripture. I think there's so much to it. I think that a lot of the reason people have this disdain for
01:41:00.180
it is because of the ways in which the, the church, the organization has dropped the ball,
01:41:06.980
the ways in which it's been utilized to manipulate humanity. Uh, those are the doings of, of human
01:41:12.340
beings. There is something else. If you can have a relationship with this intimately and not, uh,
01:41:20.020
secondhand through, through an individual, um, I think there's something really beautiful to be
01:41:25.380
gleamed through it. But my, my real point is that yes, revelation means reveal. And so when you say
01:41:31.540
we're coming to this place where it feels like the veils dropping or, or the spell is breaking or things
01:41:37.300
are being revealed, I agree with that so much. And if that truly is where we are, we are at the most
01:41:46.580
amazing time, uh, in the story. And I'm happy to be here. You know, I've been waking up this past month.
01:41:52.580
I shared this on the realized radio discord. I've been waking up with this feeling inside that is
01:41:57.220
just like, I love, I love life. I love living. I love being alive. I, I love being here. I, I, I'm so
01:42:05.380
thankful to be here now. You know, you could have been born any, anytime, anywhere. And I am just so,
01:42:12.020
so, so thankful to be here now. And I don't think, I don't think that I would be waking with this
01:42:27.780
lightened my load, lightened my emotional load, my intellectual load, psychic load with all of these,
01:42:34.820
all of these, um, sick and sad and twisted beliefs that I held on. I clung, I clung to for a very long
01:42:45.940
time, these ideas of the way the world was, I'm seeing just much more differently now. I'm seeing,
01:42:50.820
I'm seeing this as like a beautiful place to, to learn, to, to see, and I think we have to be in the
01:42:58.020
illusion to one day see through it. I think that, you know, just kind of being, we have to be, we have to
01:43:02.820
first be in the audience of the magic show and, and be tricked by the illusionists and go,
01:43:12.420
whoa, amazing to one day be able to stand on the outside from a different stand from a different
01:43:19.060
vantage point and watch the magician, you know, watch his left hand while the right hand's over
01:43:24.580
here, kind of watch from the, just a different vantage point and see what's actually going on.
01:43:28.980
We have to first, I think, be tricked to one day be able to stand on the other side and go,
01:43:33.860
that's how it's done. That's how it's done. And, and also we get to be these people in this time
01:43:40.820
who it's like, I don't have a stranglehold on the truth. And I'm not saying to believe
01:43:44.020
me or to believe top or even to believe you, but it's like, we get to be these people who it seems that
01:43:49.940
are, are a lot during this time is to try and figure it out and go on this journey along with
01:43:56.740
the audience. Um, and that is like, that's huge, man. To me, that's the, it's the greatest thing.
01:44:03.540
I couldn't think of a better position to be in, uh, or, or that I would want to be in, in, in,
01:44:08.980
instead of trying to figure out this mystery and, and, uh, and getting to talk to people like you
01:44:15.300
or, or whoever else comes on this show. Um, and also to bear witness to it unfolding. And it's
01:44:20.340
just, it's incredible. It really is incredible. I don't think we say that right there with you.
01:44:24.260
It's not a black pill. It's not a doom and gloom thing. Um, something incredible is happening right
01:44:29.540
now. And from where I'm standing, it only means good things, but we have to go through this,
01:44:34.100
this, this, um, perceived darkness, you know, to get there. Yeah. And you can't have the light
01:44:40.660
without the darkness. You know, one requires the other to exist that, you know, without,
01:44:45.780
without darkness, light just is, or without light, darkness just is. And I think that different,
01:44:51.460
you have to kind of experience, you have to walk through the darkness, I think to, to experience and
01:44:55.140
to appreciate the light one day. And, um, yeah, I, I, I do feel again, back to the, the laughter and the
01:45:02.580
levity and it is, it is wonderfully comic. It is wonderfully, um, ridiculous. You know,
01:45:10.660
the things that these, these, these heavy crosses to bear that one day, you know, I, I felt so
01:45:16.180
burdened by some of these ideas that I held in my head and these thoughts and these, these, these
01:45:21.620
figures and forms against my cave wall, you know, uh, believing Epstein and Ghislaine were out there
01:45:27.700
napping kids right and left. And yes, but now HV, you are unburdened by what has been
01:45:35.060
shout out Ginny with the banger. Oh, I got a button.
01:45:38.020
Kamala was onto something. Kamala was onto something. Oh my God. The wisdom.
01:45:45.460
Oh my God. I'm burdened by what? Um, all right, HV. I think that's a beautiful place to, to bring this
01:45:52.420
into her landing. Like that, that killed me. That comment. She crushed it. Ginny is, she's a,
01:45:56.740
she's a real one. She's been there since day one. She's great. She's sharp as a tack. Um,
01:46:00.820
for the people. If I had water in my mouth, I would have spit it. I would have, I would have spit
01:46:04.500
it out. Oh my God. Unburdened by what has been. Um, all right. Uh, HV, if you could, one more time,
01:46:10.420
let everybody know where they can find your, your work. Um, okay. So, uh, first, if you want to go to the
01:46:16.420
JonBenet Ramsey thread, it's, it's pinned to my, it's pinned to my Twitter. Um, x.com at human
01:46:23.380
vibration is my handle there. And, um, so this was my very, this was, this was it. This is the first
01:46:28.340
January 8th, 2020. This is kind of what began, um, the, this was my first really foray into this,
01:46:36.180
this world of exploration and kind of, um, you know, making a mark for myself within this,
01:46:41.700
this type of exploration. This, this was it. So, um, I keep that pinned to my profile. It's very
01:46:45.940
important to me. And, um, it's a great place if you really want to look into any more of these
01:46:49.620
details. Also that, that episode of Sam Tripoli, tinfoil hat 302, great place to start.
01:46:54.820
Um, then on Instagram, um, I'm, you know, uh, slash human vibration, underscore Insta,
01:47:01.940
gotta have that underscore Insta cause someone had already taken my human vibration. Unbelievable.
01:47:06.260
Unbelievable. And they don't even do anything with it. They just parked it,
01:47:08.980
which makes me even more mad. It's a conspiracy. It's a conspiracy, but that's okay. Just gotta let
01:47:14.100
it roll. Let it ride. No big deal. No harm, no foul. Um, and then if you're, if you're, you know, my,
01:47:21.140
I would say my, my real passion, my, all of my, all of my energy these days, I have poured into
01:47:29.380
realize radio. I love our community. I, you know, we're pumping out content. Um, every week we have a
01:47:36.660
regular episode plus bonus episodes, plus, uh, a guest presentations that are just phenomenal
01:47:43.380
movie reviews, show reviews. We've got a whole series on, you know, Westworld decoding Westworld.
01:47:48.260
Oh, very cool. Um, we ha we just had Ole Demogard on. Oh, that's awesome. I love Ole. I just emailed
01:47:54.260
him yesterday. Yeah. He's, he's a, he's a great get. And we, we actually ended up having a wonderful
01:47:58.420
conversation. There's a few things where, you know, I'm not, we don't really jive on how we see the world,
01:48:02.660
but we ended up the first, the first 20 minutes, maybe I was having a little bit of trouble, but
01:48:08.980
we, um, cause he was trying to go into some areas that I'm, I'm, I don't really jive with and, but,
01:48:14.580
but, but we still, we had a beautiful, a beautiful conversation. Once we kind of got,
01:48:19.940
we ended up focusing on, on fear and like how the, how its mechanism of control. And I think that that
01:48:25.300
just like opened the doors to a really, really, really thoughtful and wonderful episode. I was a little
01:48:32.420
unsure at the very beginning. I was like, oh no, we're just going to talk about the big,
01:48:35.380
bad buggy men all, all the time. Yeah. But this is it. I mean, this nails it. Ginny says,
01:48:38.900
Ole Demogard is so cool, even though I don't agree with him on all. Yeah. He's, he strikes me as a very
01:48:43.380
good dude. He seems like a genuine, sweet, good guy. Sweet guy. Yeah. Truly. Yeah. I like him a lot.
01:48:48.420
And a really nice smile too. He was, he was very joyful. He had like, even his email correspondence.
01:48:53.220
It's just like, like, he's just very polite. He's very well-wishy. We had him, we had him on the hook,
01:48:59.060
right? But it was like, we had him, but I emailed him yesterday. No. Okay. Yeah. Because he's in,
01:49:03.060
in Sweden and I have to admit, I'm so stupid wherever he's in. He goes, um, Hey, your timeframes,
01:49:09.060
they're not conducive to mine. They're going to be in the middle of the night. Can you,
01:49:11.860
can you do it? That's like eight o'clock my time. And I went, I think he's in Bali actually.
01:49:16.740
I think he's some, I think he's in the Southeast. I don't even know. I just know that when he said that,
01:49:20.820
I was like, I don't even know what, how to begin doing that. It's literally a Google.
01:49:25.620
Let me, let me hit up my friend, HB. She's green. That's what I said.
01:49:29.860
Time zones are not my friend. I couldn't figure it out. I couldn't figure it out. And so it fell
01:49:34.500
through, but I did reach out to him just yesterday. Uh, so I hope to be talking to Ole soon, but that's
01:49:38.580
very cool. You know, tell him, tell him HB sent you. Be like, I just talked to HB. I certainly will.
01:49:42.260
Yeah. HB, shameless plug. I love to talk with you about like the Nephilim, things like that.
01:49:47.940
Yes. Because that's like more right up our alley at giants, kind of like not, not old,
01:49:52.740
old earth, but this is like fairly recent. I'd say in like the past 6,000 years. And I think
01:49:58.180
it does play into everything that we're talking about here. That's why we named the show this,
01:50:01.700
but I also want to say. I'm going to have to do my homework. I have to do my homework
01:50:04.580
before we have a conversation on that, but I would love to. Yeah. We'd love to have you back. I know
01:50:08.660
we made you drudge up old hat. You know what I mean? It's kind of your thing that you've been
01:50:12.660
doing forever. And I'd recognize as a content creator, um, sometimes you want to move on to something
01:50:17.620
that's more interesting to you next time. Uh, I won't badger you with things that you know,
01:50:22.100
I love it. That sweet baby John Benet, she saved my life. I like to say John Benet Ramsey murdered me.
01:50:31.140
Truly the person I was before she gone, she gone, you know, she does not exist anymore. The
01:50:37.300
person I was. John Benet Ramsey murdered me. That's, that's a shirt. If you don't have a shirt,
01:50:41.220
like I really like that, you need to be doing that. That's so funny. Do you understand like
01:50:46.420
what you would do to people moving through Walmart with a shirt that says John Benet Ramsey murdered
01:50:50.740
me? Oh my God. That's a banger. That needs to be on a shirt. Um, all right. All right. All right.
01:50:56.740
So we got all your plugs. Um, you're absolutely invited back. We'll reach out in the future.
01:51:01.060
This has been a wonderful conversation. Uh, top. Is that, is, is that it? That's a wrap. Yeah.
01:51:06.100
We're going to close with what I say all the time. Uh, don't forget to obey, submit and comply.
01:51:11.620
The greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.
01:51:17.620
It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.
01:51:21.620
You can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see.
01:51:26.420
Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening.