Nephilim Death Squad - 100： A New Alien Religion w⧸ Jay Dyer

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00:01:22.800 We are being hypnotized by people like this.

00:01:29.580 News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

00:01:34.360 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:01:42.020 But the chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely

00:01:47.860 Oh yeah, dude.

00:01:49.880 There's some Nephilim shit.

00:01:51.060 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim.

00:02:20.940 Death Squad.

00:02:22.100 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a.

00:02:24.320 The Raven.

00:02:25.060 That is Top Lobstiff, the father of disinformation.

00:02:28.500 And against his better judgment, we are honored to welcome back Jay Dyer.

00:02:34.540 Jay, for the audience who might not be familiar with you, let them know where they can find

00:02:39.060 your work and what it is you focus on.

00:02:40.620 I thought this was XG podcast, so I'm going to have to leave.

00:02:44.740 I thought this guy right here is XG, so I'm not.

00:02:47.500 Not XG?

00:02:48.180 That's not XG?

00:02:48.900 Who are you guys?

00:02:50.020 I'm out of here.

00:02:50.780 He was like, I thought XG, I thought Bohemian Grove was XG's show.

00:02:54.400 I'm going to leave.

00:02:55.540 Oh my God.

00:02:56.760 Incredible.

00:02:57.160 I thought Sam Tripoli was XG, so I'm confused now who's who.

00:03:01.440 I knew we were screwed as soon as we had, I looked at Jay's screen and I said, is that

00:03:04.940 a tufted armchair you're sat upon, sir?

00:03:07.280 And it is.

00:03:08.000 It's a beautiful suede, tufted.

00:03:10.220 It is a power move.

00:03:11.160 Look at him lounging, dude.

00:03:12.300 It's like a, this is what you drink purple scissor up in.

00:03:16.820 Yes.

00:03:17.360 Yes.

00:03:17.680 And I imagine you've had quite a few purple scissor ups on that one.

00:03:21.220 That is a beautiful sofa, sir.

00:03:23.180 I'm glad to be back with you guys.

00:03:24.780 I'm sorry I couldn't perform cringe core at your live event, but I did have actually the

00:03:30.020 worst two weeks of diarrhea ever.

00:03:32.380 So glad to be cute and healthy.

00:03:34.240 I felt terrible that you showed up.

00:03:36.960 I gave you a hug.

00:03:37.920 I looked at you and I said, oh no.

00:03:39.540 Cause it was just so you could tell the facial expression on you was, you were, you were holding

00:03:43.600 it together.

00:03:44.220 I was hoping, hopefully I didn't pass my AIDS on to both of y'all since I showed him.

00:03:48.100 Probably somebody got AIDS for sure.

00:03:49.300 You can't get AIDS twice.

00:03:50.760 So we're all set here.

00:03:52.220 We're all good.

00:03:52.920 All right.

00:03:53.160 We're all good, baby.

00:03:55.160 I'm really excited to have you back, Jay.

00:03:57.080 Yeah.

00:03:57.200 Let's toss up his, his links there.

00:03:58.580 Of course, go and follow Jay Dyer.

00:04:00.860 Twitter, Rockfin, big one.

00:04:03.080 Um, Instagram, it's weird.

00:04:04.880 Like he has like so many followers.

00:04:06.260 Like, why are you, why are you hanging out with us?

00:04:08.240 But Hey, you're here, um, it's his better judgment.

00:04:11.300 Yeah.

00:04:11.740 Jay, you, you sent out a tweet and most of your tweets are very interesting, but this

00:04:15.980 one I thought was a timely and you were talking about the, the Brookings Institute in the 1960s.

00:04:22.420 So I kind of want to just, let's just hop right into this because it's, this is like,

00:04:26.240 what's going on.

00:04:27.000 I think it has something to do with everything, man.

00:04:29.160 It's all connected.

00:04:29.760 I got to put the red wires behind me, but please.

00:04:32.020 Yeah.

00:04:33.900 So this tweet was, uh, from a book that was written by an academic that I came across

00:04:38.620 a few years ago.

00:04:39.560 Her name was, uh, Brenda Densler.

00:04:41.000 She wrote a book about the UFO cults and the whole phenomenon, excuse me, how there might

00:04:48.160 be a religious component to a lot of this stuff.

00:04:51.700 Um, and how it ties into alien cults, UFO cults.

00:04:55.020 But I was actually surprised when I saw the candidness of that 1960 Brookings Institute

00:05:01.400 report, which was basically saying that they knew back then that if they released or claim

00:05:07.440 to have disclosure, alien, you know, existence, alien life claims that it would really undo

00:05:13.240 the whole Western civilization ethos of biblical Christianity, et cetera.

00:05:17.720 So they've known this for a long time.

00:05:20.060 And that's just one, I think, key piece of data that I came across.

00:05:23.400 I think I put that one in my second book when I was doing an analysis of a lot of alien movies.

00:05:28.180 You know, in my view, I think that people are more inclined to believe in aliens from movies

00:05:34.540 and video games and all the propaganda that we've had since we were kids, as opposed to

00:05:40.680 like actual, you know, proof or evidence for such things.

00:05:44.400 And I didn't mention this to you guys, but I was on another podcast and we were talking

00:05:48.260 about this, but it's actually in the Talmud that there's 18,000 worlds that God created.

00:05:53.980 So if you look up a lot of, uh, uh, Jewish theology, rabbinic theology, they will say that

00:05:59.540 they're big believers in the possibility or the existence of alien life.

00:06:03.660 So it's not really part of the biblical story, but it is part of other traditions.

00:06:08.260 I mean, you could say it overlaps even with ancient pagan traditions of the gods coming

00:06:12.420 and visiting and this kind of stuff.

00:06:14.140 Maybe the Genesis six Nephilim element does play into this in some way, but yeah, I think

00:06:19.920 that there's a couple layers of deception going on.

00:06:22.580 You've got the long-term spiritual deception, uh, that goes back millennia back to the fall.

00:06:28.980 And then you've got a more recent localized black ops deception.

00:06:33.660 That not just deep state actors like Brookings Institute, but actual CIA support, fostering

00:06:40.900 funding, and like, uh, basically creating, I would argue the modern UFO alien mythos.

00:06:49.320 Interesting.

00:06:50.220 That is something that we've been talking about a lot of it.

00:06:53.120 Go ahead.

00:06:53.480 Uh, sorry.

00:06:53.940 Jump, jump into Cliff.

00:06:55.140 Hi man, because he just, he's talking about this dude.

00:06:57.420 It's crazy.

00:06:57.840 Well, I mean, I don't want to beat a dead horse further to death, but, but we have been

00:07:03.060 talking about how everyone's perception of aliens, UFOs is prepackaged and given to you

00:07:09.500 by Hollywood.

00:07:10.560 Um, and by these various governing bodies, you know, aided in, uh, things that NASA disseminates.

00:07:16.140 And so I think it's important to check in with people, especially on the cusp of what does

00:07:21.100 feel a lot like some sort of government backed disclosure that our opinions of these things,

00:07:29.160 whatever they're going to show us are not at all, you know, organic.

00:07:33.000 They are entirely fed to us by what you said, video games, Hollywood video games.

00:07:37.400 Certainly.

00:07:37.960 I mean, it, it takes it to a whole nother level, especially when you consider, um, after

00:07:42.840 the nineties, how gripped an entire generation, you know, millennials, uh, for certain were

00:07:47.460 by video games and that narrative, that alien narrative, there's no shortage of it.

00:07:52.140 And it really fleshes it out, man.

00:07:53.560 It gives a lot of really compelling theories to chew on things that sort of parallel Gnostic

00:07:59.060 or new age belief systems that already exist.

00:08:01.660 And so, um, yeah, I just, I think it's a, it's really important to point out to people

00:08:06.080 like you don't have an idea about what these are.

00:08:08.860 Your ideas about what these are, are given to you.

00:08:11.520 Yeah.

00:08:12.480 Yeah.

00:08:12.900 I think there's really, uh, in my view, I mean, I'll, I'm always open to debating anybody

00:08:17.320 who does believe in aliens.

00:08:18.760 I've wanted to do an alien debate for many years.

00:08:20.940 I haven't really found anybody who was open to doing it.

00:08:23.740 Um, but anybody who does believe that there are extraterrestrial biological entities or whatever,

00:08:29.040 I'm happy to do that.

00:08:29.840 I tend to think that there is a spiritual thing going on that's going on on earth.

00:08:34.500 I agree with Jacques Vallée, who was a government affiliated person, a computer scientist working

00:08:40.600 with, uh, I think DARPA and other entities before he passed away, but he's not even a

00:08:45.360 Christian.

00:08:45.740 He doesn't have any sort of, you know, spiritual sensibilities in that sense.

00:08:49.620 And Vallée was famous for saying there's some kind of large scale deception going on

00:08:54.220 here because they're not from other planets, whatever this is, it's actually terrestrial.

00:08:58.240 And he says that he thinks that there's basically a spiritual deception going on and a government

00:09:04.940 deep state thing going on.

00:09:06.040 So he's a very well-known famous researcher.

00:09:08.400 In fact, uh, Spielberg's close encounters of the, of the third kind, that famous movie,

00:09:12.620 which I think in many ways solidified a lot of people's thought processes on where aliens

00:09:17.680 come from, what they are, as well as HG Wells is, you know, war of the worlds.

00:09:21.980 This is a classic that I don't know.

00:09:24.320 You guys have probably heard of the Orson Wells broadcast of HG Wells's thing, which

00:09:29.340 was a, uh, Princeton research project PSYOP study, uh, to see how people reacted to the

00:09:35.500 announcement of alien invasion and alien life.

00:09:38.720 And that was being studied.

00:09:40.080 There was a whole book written by a Tavistock connected, uh, guy, Hadley Cantrell.

00:09:44.680 He wrote a book invaders from Mars on how people reacted to the announcement of a, of a

00:09:49.960 fake alien invasion.

00:09:51.180 And of course, everybody believed it because the authority structures on the radio told

00:09:55.020 them that it was a real alien invasion.

00:09:57.820 So Tavistock learned a lot from that.

00:10:00.880 These are all real people, real books.

00:10:02.420 You can look up.

00:10:03.000 I put Hadley Cantrell in my first book because you got somebody working literally with the

00:10:06.880 Tavistock Institute about how people are writing a giant book about how people react to a fake

00:10:11.860 alien invasion, like in the 1940s or 50s.

00:10:15.240 So every time in my experience that I look into people who are key players in these stories

00:10:22.760 or in this mythos, for example, if we go back to the first couple, um, famous abductees,

00:10:28.800 you have George Adamski.

00:10:30.100 He's a wrote, he's into the Austrian Rosicrucianism.

00:10:33.200 Um, he has this wild story being abducted and ends up being very similar to a science fiction

00:10:37.840 novel that's written around the same time.

00:10:39.440 Um, and you know, he's just cause kind of weird, like backwoods, like he looks like a

00:10:44.640 drug addict dude from, from, from the backwoods.

00:10:47.100 And you're like, why would anybody care what this guy says about abduction?

00:10:50.480 Well, the head of the CIA cared enough to threaten to, to sue anyone who would challenge

00:10:55.960 his story.

00:10:57.440 So this propelled George Adamski's story into the limelight to be like the big famous first

00:11:02.440 full on, I was taken to the ship stuff.

00:11:05.880 And then, uh, a few years later you get this weird.

00:11:09.440 Civil rights activist couple.

00:11:11.200 Who's also into the occult Betty and Barney Hill.

00:11:14.480 They claim to have another abduction story.

00:11:16.520 They started alien cult and they're also eventually called out as frauds too.

00:11:20.340 So the, the big stories are generally bound up with a lot of deception and fraud and similar

00:11:25.920 parallel to that at the same time, uh, rank corporation put out a report called for the,

00:11:32.080 I think for the air force called a project sign.

00:11:34.520 And this is 1949 and a guy from a rank corporation and Dr. James lip was part of this, uh, white

00:11:40.280 paper.

00:11:41.280 And he, he says, this was the first official paper that they put out on this phenomenon.

00:11:46.320 Uh, and he says, well, although I deny the existence of aliens, uh, or any possibility

00:11:53.040 of it, he says, there's something going on here and it relates to nukes and atomics and

00:11:58.300 disarmament and all this kind of stuff.

00:11:59.880 So from the very earliest days, the rank corporation putting out a paper, it was kind of tied to

00:12:04.560 the idea of atomic nuclear disarmament.

00:12:07.780 There's a reason I'm going to explain why that is.

00:12:09.900 I think even in this first debunking paper, um, then you get not too long after that propaganda

00:12:16.720 that comes out in Hollywood.

00:12:19.020 Uh, for example, the movie, uh, day, the earth stood still, which everybody should watch

00:12:23.460 that because that movie has this Jesus like character comes down as an alien.

00:12:28.360 He's a carpenter.

00:12:29.300 And then he warns everybody.

00:12:30.680 If you don't create a world government, if you don't disarm and disarmament means in all

00:12:36.720 like everything the UN wants, right?

00:12:38.320 Not just getting rid of, uh, you know, ICBMs or whatever, but also you not having guns,

00:12:43.200 right?

00:12:43.460 So it's total disarmament, socialist, cuck, new age, you know, religion type of message.

00:12:50.040 That's the point of that whole movie.

00:12:51.540 That was a huge, like one of the first big alien blockbusters around the same time as

00:12:55.540 for the world.

00:12:56.300 And the message is international socialism.

00:13:00.180 Yeah.

00:13:00.700 That's the modern remake with Keanu, but the old one is so that you have this guy from

00:13:05.880 the CIA consulting on it.

00:13:07.540 If I recall, uh, CD Jackson and CD Jackson's also the head of the doctrinal warfare program.

00:13:14.360 And the doctrinal warfare program was the CIA's plan to get the churches in America on board

00:13:21.160 with the cold war to make them instruments of Americanism.

00:13:25.040 So the gospel theology, all that secondary to being a kind of soft power for, for America

00:13:31.500 in the cold war.

00:13:32.700 Um, mainly they were interested in the Catholic church cause it was, you know, globally the

00:13:36.180 biggest at that time.

00:13:37.120 So they wanted to, uh, steer it towards Americanism.

00:13:40.720 But the point is that the guy who's in charge of that church infiltration program, this is

00:13:45.700 all very public declassified stuff.

00:13:47.600 It's called the doctrinal warfare program.

00:13:49.040 He's also consulting on alien movies.

00:13:51.740 Why?

00:13:52.260 Cause it's building narratives.

00:13:53.400 It's building stories that myths that people need.

00:13:56.120 I believe they were trying to build this new alien myth at this time.

00:14:00.360 And this is when 19 late forties, fifties, sudden explosion of alien movies out the wazoo

00:14:06.300 from Hollywood.

00:14:07.360 And it's not accidental that not just CD Jackson, but, um, I think Zanuck, uh, like the other

00:14:14.500 movie studios, they were also working with the OSS, the office of wartime information to pump

00:14:19.460 out these alien movies.

00:14:20.740 I think as a side, it seems like there is a lot of things.

00:14:25.140 What, um, I didn't realize that the character that Keanu plays in, uh, the day the earth

00:14:31.940 stood still was sort of a messianic figure or Jesus figure archetype.

00:14:37.300 And, um, what's interesting about that is I think it was like Alice Bailey through the

00:14:43.020 works of Helena Blavatsky predicted that in 2025 or sometime after 2025 AD.

00:14:50.740 There would be, um, sort of the return of Christ and I'm only peripherally aware of that.

00:14:57.540 I mean, you can Google it and you can see that it's within Alice Bailey's predictions,

00:15:01.040 but, um, we're in this really weird place right now where we have this drone incursion

00:15:09.140 and you make of that what you will, but when you conjoin that with this annual pump fake

00:15:16.500 that the government seems to do, the, the Pentagon talks about recovering off world craft,

00:15:22.500 non-human biologics.

00:15:24.080 They're using sort of coded language to, I think, prime the public to get ready because

00:15:29.280 you don't want to just dump it on them all at once.

00:15:30.960 And now you have, you know, the federal government arguing with the local municipalities as to

00:15:39.460 the nature of these things that are invading our airspace.

00:15:42.200 And I can't help, but look at it and feel like we are on the cusp of this final, you know,

00:15:48.840 that this disclosure program coming to fruition.

00:15:52.780 And it's been a long game, dude.

00:15:54.900 I mean, you're talking about the forties the other day, uh, top was talking on the show

00:15:59.200 about the battle of Los Angeles and, um, it just seems like for the longest time, they

00:16:06.240 do these things.

00:16:07.080 They pop up in our, in our, you know, field of awareness and then they fizzle out into

00:16:11.160 nothingness.

00:16:11.720 And it's, I think reaching a critical mass, but there is a character and to my own detriment,

00:16:19.680 I'm going to bring them up again while the chat goes wild, but, uh,

00:16:22.680 The camera's frozen, Dave, just give it a wiggle.

00:16:24.220 Spirit fingers.

00:16:25.000 Here we go.

00:16:25.720 This is crazy.

00:16:26.480 I don't understand it.

00:16:27.560 So there's a character named Cliff High, who is a systems expert, a programmer.

00:16:32.020 He writes code.

00:16:32.840 He developed a web bot in the early nineties.

00:16:35.780 And this web bot scrapes data off the internet and uses it to make predictions.

00:16:38.940 And one of the things that it predicted was this Joe Rogan, Donald Trump interview.

00:16:44.060 And it labeled that as a pivotal moment, a temporal marker.

00:16:47.500 If this thing happens, it's a significant moment in history.

00:16:50.540 And then this other thing is going to happen shortly afterwards.

00:16:53.080 So Cliff High says the data is telling me 39 days after this, um, event, this podcast,

00:17:01.100 we're going to get the beginning of what he calls melee and which I pronounced wrong

00:17:07.120 and will continue to pronounce, pronounce wrong.

00:17:09.460 So this is supposed to be my, thank you, melee.

00:17:13.240 Anyway, uh, there's no way I would say, oh, wow.

00:17:17.040 The Cliff High cucks are at it again.

00:17:18.920 Yeah, dude.

00:17:19.540 Shout out to Jose Galison.

00:17:21.360 Um, so basically this moment would be marked by an aerial event.

00:17:28.560 Cliff High maintains that it's going to be alien in nature.

00:17:31.300 And you can make whatever you want of him.

00:17:33.080 I'm highly skeptical of him.

00:17:34.380 He's also a CIA agent.

00:17:35.980 Well, his father worked for the military and because of that, they would have dinner often

00:17:42.420 with CIA agents.

00:17:43.820 So make of that what you will, right?

00:17:45.800 Um, especially if you consider that this is all a psychological operation that's been going

00:17:50.200 on for the past 70 years or whatever it is.

00:17:52.900 So long story short, he says these drones that we're seeing in the sky that didn't fast

00:17:58.360 show up around the timeframe that he gave us.

00:18:00.460 One of them is going to be a human being element.

00:18:03.000 The other two are going to be alien elements, uh, which I would push back against because

00:18:07.480 I don't think that these things are aliens given the discussion that we just had about

00:18:12.760 how none of our opinions of them are organic.

00:18:16.600 They're all given to us by, by Hollywood and such.

00:18:18.900 So I think that this discussion, trying to iron out the detail of these things, because

00:18:24.800 I, I agree with you, Jay.

00:18:26.820 I don't think that these things are, or maybe I'm, I'm misrepresenting what you said

00:18:29.980 earlier, but I don't think that these things come from outside of our, uh, planet.

00:18:36.300 I don't think they come from space.

00:18:37.780 And it even seems that within the UFO UAP community in the past couple of years, they've

00:18:44.180 become very comfortable with this narrative that they come from the either interdimensional

00:18:47.960 or from our oceans or some sort of mixture of the two.

00:18:51.360 And I think that right now where we sit, it might be an incredibly important time.

00:18:57.860 We might be on the cusp of this big reveal.

00:19:01.780 And the problem with that, Jay, is that if you haven't done your research, if you're

00:19:05.560 somebody who never gave these things any credence, well, then you're going to be left at the

00:19:09.720 mercy of the government to tell you what the truth is about these things.

00:19:13.860 So, um, Jay, what are your ideas in regards to these entities?

00:19:20.380 Because the way that they're presented to us is huge.

00:19:22.860 It's like, there's some abduction stories, there's some Hollywood stuff, there's some

00:19:26.780 miscellaneous footage from maybe NASA that you are meant to give more credibility to.

00:19:31.860 Maybe the military industrial complex is pumping out, you know, jets encounters with these things.

00:19:37.980 Where do you place them?

00:19:39.220 There's a couple of things I would suggest everybody look at if they haven't.

00:19:44.000 There's a great documentary called Mirage Men, which is an interview with a bunch of people

00:19:48.860 who have been involved openly in disseminating the alien mythos story.

00:19:54.960 People from intelligence.

00:19:56.560 There's one of the most famous is Richard Doty, who was Air Force counterintelligence.

00:20:00.180 And he's a significant portion of that documentary in terms of the interviews.

00:20:04.200 And he talks about the way that they would profile and find people that were perfect fits

00:20:10.380 for giving disinformation to let them then disseminate a lot of alien BS.

00:20:18.320 And he did, he did this for about two decades.

00:20:20.560 And so they talk about two different people from 60s, 70s, and then into the 80s, you get

00:20:26.140 these new crop of characters and it's a pretty fascinating pattern if you pay attention to

00:20:31.140 it.

00:20:31.340 So I would recommend also go back and watch the old interview that Joe Rogan did with

00:20:35.460 Bob Lazar, because he seems to be the more recent version of this choosing of people to

00:20:42.020 disseminate information.

00:20:43.340 The most, most recent past Bob Lazar would be Tom DeLonge from Blink-182.

00:20:48.360 And all of these cast of characters, when you go all the way back to the, I think his name

00:20:51.780 is Bob Moore, the boomer dude in the 80s that they chose.

00:20:54.860 Like Richard Doty is just sitting there saying, yeah, what we do is we basically find people

00:20:59.580 that are really into the alien story who really believe it.

00:21:02.980 They are typically profiled as kind of narcissistic, you know, feel like they've been not recognized

00:21:08.940 types of people.

00:21:10.140 We bring them into the military base.

00:21:12.380 We tell them you're special.

00:21:14.160 You're going to be our ambassador.

00:21:15.560 We made a deal with the aliens.

00:21:17.160 You're going to tell everybody that there's this concord, this pact that was made.

00:21:21.220 So go forth, disseminate, but keep it secret.

00:21:25.280 And then they would even in some cases, like they would bring a general in, play a VHS tape

00:21:29.420 of like some, you know, shitty Hollywood B-movie type craft taken off.

00:21:34.320 And they would tell these people this.

00:21:36.380 And they, of course, they believe it.

00:21:37.620 Right.

00:21:37.880 And the first guy that they chose was Paul Benowitz.

00:21:40.540 He was like super boomer patriot dude who would never, well, the generals wouldn't lie to me.

00:21:45.920 So he, for, you know, several years disseminated literally what Air Force disinformation wanted

00:21:52.520 disseminated.

00:21:53.540 The next character was that Bob Moore guy.

00:21:56.060 I think his name is Bob Moore.

00:21:57.080 And then they have examples like Linda Moulton Howell documentary.

00:22:01.380 Then we come up to the next phase, which is Bob Lazar.

00:22:04.240 And now with today's, we've got like Blink-182 dude.

00:22:07.120 By the way, didn't Bob Lazar actually say that he's not sure what they showed him that he was

00:22:11.480 meant to convey?

00:22:12.280 In other words, like he doesn't know what was real and what wasn't real because he recognizes

00:22:16.960 there was some element that was fake and meant to spread the word, in other words.

00:22:21.720 Exactly.

00:22:22.180 And the reverse engineered alien technology story, that's kind of first at Roswell.

00:22:28.580 And it's just recycled right from all the way back from Paul Benowitz up through all these

00:22:35.320 characters that they'd kind of recycle the same stuff.

00:22:37.520 And if you've listened to Tom DeLonge, he says the same thing.

00:22:39.400 He's like, they brought the general to me and the general told me, well, they wouldn't

00:22:44.080 lie to me.

00:22:44.820 Right.

00:22:45.020 Like, I mean, what do you think military people learn?

00:22:48.580 Like intelligence people learn, first of all, to lie and deceive.

00:22:51.040 What are you talking about?

00:22:51.660 It's just idiotic.

00:22:52.800 Right.

00:22:53.140 Right.

00:22:53.360 But anyway, so, and then you notice too, there's a lot of weird, like scammy stuff connected

00:22:57.920 to culty stuff connected to always, but yeah, so you, you know, the Bob Lazar story.

00:23:03.340 I don't, I don't have to repeat all that, but that, if you listen, if you know Bob Lazar story

00:23:07.320 and then you watch that documentary, you can tell they're doing the same thing in every

00:23:11.240 decade.

00:23:11.660 They're like, they're just picking these people to disseminate.

00:23:13.860 So that's another, for me, key indicator that I'm not saying there's no spiritual unexplained

00:23:19.660 phenomenon.

00:23:20.140 I think there are, but a lot of it is this psyops stuff.

00:23:25.400 If you read the Collins brothers book, you guys should get the Collins brothers on, by

00:23:28.540 the way, they're, they're really good experts on the topic.

00:23:30.760 Not so much of like the theology stuff, but specifically on the topic of the relationship

00:23:35.980 between the CIA and the alien phenomenon.

00:23:38.460 They wrote a great book called invoking the beyond.

00:23:40.540 It's a really big, thick book, but about the middle three or 400 pages is literally just

00:23:45.240 dedicated to intelligence, CIA, black ops, FBI, NSC, ONI, all of these groups and their

00:23:53.320 relationship to all this alien jibber jabber.

00:23:56.260 It's called invoking the beyond.

00:23:57.640 Anyway, they make a really good point too, about a lot of these people kind of being chosen

00:24:03.100 and crafted for groomed for this kind of dissemination deception.

00:24:07.000 So, uh, that was a long winded answer.

00:24:09.380 I know to what your, what your question was, what do I think about these entities?

00:24:12.040 I do think that there are entities that are demonic, uh, that can pass themselves off as

00:24:18.540 aliens.

00:24:18.980 And so there can be a real interaction in that way, because for example, if you read, um,

00:24:26.120 MK ultra Dr.

00:24:27.360 John C.

00:24:27.800 Lily's book, his autobiography, he says, you know, when I would do high doses of whatever

00:24:34.300 hallucinogen, I'm going to the float tank.

00:24:36.000 He's like, I would dissociate.

00:24:37.840 I would, you know, have out of body experience and I would see these entities and they would

00:24:41.380 give me ideas for what types of, um, implantable chips I was developing.

00:24:47.720 So, I mean, again, maybe he's bullshitting, but he's like one of the most famous MK ultra

00:24:52.900 doctors who developed, you know, RFID chips to implant into humans and monkeys and dolphins.

00:24:58.960 He had a fetish for dolphins, by the way, jerking them off.

00:25:03.140 Yeah.

00:25:04.140 Exactly.

00:25:05.140 But, but I mean, in his autobiography, he's literally saying, you know, I'm getting this,

00:25:08.520 these ideas from aliens.

00:25:10.520 Yes.

00:25:11.520 Um, the drug people too, like in the sphere of like, um, I've never done DMT.

00:25:17.360 I've, I've watched tons of interviews with people that have done DMT though.

00:25:20.560 If you watch a bunch of DMT experience videos on YouTube, you'll notice like half of them

00:25:24.200 say, well, yeah, the clockwork elves told me like, we need to create a world government,

00:25:28.080 like get rid of everybody, bro.

00:25:29.380 And like save the earth or whatever.

00:25:31.080 Right.

00:25:31.340 They always, they have a similar message.

00:25:33.360 Yep.

00:25:33.940 Um, I had a bad trip when I was 18, 17, and I didn't get any like one world government

00:25:40.100 messages, but I did feel like, or believe I was interacting with this entity in my bad

00:25:44.640 trip.

00:25:44.960 So I can say that I think that does go on.

00:25:47.240 Many of the other psychonauts like Tim Leary and others, I think that they're interacting

00:25:51.160 with interdimensional beings.

00:25:52.580 So this is also an element of it too, which I think is possible.

00:25:56.360 Well, why, because it's very plausible that if Alan Dulles, who's would have been aware

00:26:01.580 of the MKUltra projects that were going on and the secret research into various, uh, truth

00:26:07.980 serums, drugs or whatever, if he's running cover for, um, the first abductee, George

00:26:14.480 Adamski, it's very plausible that they could have been giving George Adamski high doses

00:26:19.480 of acid flashing some lights in his eyes.

00:26:22.860 Right.

00:26:23.820 He wouldn't know.

00:26:24.400 I mean, I'm just some, like, you know, imagine your granddad, right.

00:26:28.400 Being given acid unaware.

00:26:30.300 He doesn't know what acid is, right.

00:26:32.140 Some like country, your granddad, it didn't really even exist at the time.

00:26:35.960 Right.

00:26:36.040 It's just kind of like a, no, it wasn't known exactly right.

00:26:38.380 Yeah.

00:26:38.700 You know, what's interesting too, Jay, um, and I wonder your, your thoughts on this, not

00:26:42.080 to derail you, but, um, it seems whether you're in a, you know, float tank and you're

00:26:48.520 communing with something, or if you are in a DMT setting and you're communicating with something

00:26:53.440 you didn't, you know, a shit ton of DMT, there is this notion that these entities want to

00:26:57.060 like, give you something.

00:26:58.000 They want to give you information.

00:26:58.940 They want to give you how to do a technology, what you should be doing.

00:27:02.200 And that's like, you know, top and I, we connect that often to the idea that people of old

00:27:07.200 their, their deities would have been responsible for giving them like metallurgy or teaching

00:27:11.640 them agriculture or something or another.

00:27:13.300 There is always an information technology exchange.

00:27:17.560 Absolutely.

00:27:18.340 And the other parallel I was going to make was, so if you think about the possibility

00:27:22.240 of, you know, black ops guys, CIA people trying to, um, you know, say unwittingly dose

00:27:28.920 people and see what happens, uh, that could very easily transition into creating possibly

00:27:35.240 some of the first abductee stories, right?

00:27:38.340 Like they're intentionally, you know, dosing people, furthering them, uh, putting out the

00:27:44.680 myth, like the other people who disseminate the mythology.

00:27:47.360 I'm not saying they were all dosed with LSA.

00:27:49.080 I'm just using the possibility of this with say, uh, a damski.

00:27:53.240 Um, and also if you look at the parallels between what people who undergo ritual abuse, say, right?

00:27:59.460 Like in the cases of satanic ritual abuse, they're very parallel to the stories of alien abductees

00:28:05.680 and my booty got probed and all this kind of stuff.

00:28:08.660 And there've actually been people prosecuted.

00:28:11.240 Uh, if you look up the BBC article, there was a guy who kidnapped a girl and drugged her

00:28:16.560 and was using mind control techniques, the famous case, I think in the UK, he was like

00:28:20.960 some Nordic dude, yawned something.

00:28:23.100 Um, and he got, uh, prosecuted and caught because he was, uh, using an alien mythology and

00:28:29.640 drugging this girl, trying to brainwash her with like, you know, so in other words, if

00:28:33.860 like random, you know, science dudes are out there doing this, I feel sure that probably

00:28:39.220 the CIA has been involved in doing this too.

00:28:41.440 Um, and if you think that they are beyond doing that, well, I'm sure you guys have heard

00:28:45.280 of operation midnight climax, right?

00:28:46.900 Where the CIA pairs up with, uh, some ladies of the evening to dose unwitting Johns and to

00:28:53.640 study their results.

00:28:54.560 Like you don't think they would dose some redneck dude to let him think that he was being abducted.

00:28:59.080 So I'm just posing that as a theory that there can be the demons and there can be demonic

00:29:04.280 CIA dudes, right?

00:29:05.740 Men and black people.

00:29:06.880 Yeah, exactly.

00:29:08.320 Yeah.

00:29:08.460 I tend to feel like, tend to feel like it's a little bit of both and it's hard to determine

00:29:12.720 which is which, which is why, like, I mean, it kind of really lends to them.

00:29:17.400 If, if half the stories are bullshit and you can kind of dismiss some of that stuff, but

00:29:21.140 it also helps them because you're still proliferating their narrative is now the question is, is

00:29:25.960 the narrative at the heart, is it true?

00:29:28.660 And the more I look into them kind of like, it's a little freaky, but it does look like

00:29:32.020 it's, there is something to this.

00:29:34.320 Yeah.

00:29:34.940 Yeah.

00:29:35.100 Also the, there's another angle too, which is overlooked that the aliens, the Collins brothers

00:29:41.600 wrote an article a long time ago.

00:29:42.680 It was really good.

00:29:43.440 I think it's part of the book now, but it was called alien smokescreen.

00:29:46.940 And in that article, they were arguing that this was actually before Annie Jacobson wrote

00:29:50.800 her book, which kind of has the same thesis about area 51, that sometimes the military

00:29:55.400 black ops, like they can use this alien crap as cover or black ops stuff too.

00:30:00.100 So that's another angle to this, to where like, if they're bringing it, if the CIA is flying

00:30:03.620 in, like, you know, planes full of cocaine, right.

00:30:06.980 You can have some kind of alien cover nonsense that distracts the alien stories might also be

00:30:13.020 useful for like covering technology that maybe that we don't want the Russians to know

00:30:17.880 about, right.

00:30:18.680 So you put up this alien story.

00:30:20.240 So there's a lot of other, uh, it's called, um, function stacking as what they call it,

00:30:25.560 where they have like multiple uses for, uh, the alien mythos.

00:30:29.700 Well, it's the same thing.

00:30:30.720 Like when, uh, you never let a good, whatever disaster go on taking, I mean, I'm really paraphrasing

00:30:36.320 here, but yeah, it's, it's that same kind of concept.

00:30:38.440 I wonder too, because whenever it comes to abductee victims, there often is a human element,

00:30:45.060 you know, you'll, some people will return with some sort of recollection of like a military

00:30:50.300 environment or like a sterile sort of lab environment and also the presence of human

00:30:56.620 beings.

00:30:57.280 So, well, the men in black seem to show up, right.

00:31:00.260 Are those the black ops operatives that are showing, you know what I mean?

00:31:03.240 Yeah.

00:31:03.900 And, and there's somebody that, um, I tend to give some credence to abductee victims

00:31:11.360 primarily because once you have absorbed enough testimony, you realize that there are through

00:31:17.260 lines, there are patterns.

00:31:18.620 And there's one woman in particular that sticks out to me.

00:31:21.560 Her name is Karen Wilkinson.

00:31:22.820 We're meaning to have her on the show.

00:31:24.220 It's just scheduling issues.

00:31:24.960 But she talks about, she's an individual who can remember a lot more of her abductions

00:31:31.920 than like a lot of other people.

00:31:33.740 And one of the things that she described was how she came across on a ship, uh, a pile of

00:31:42.600 discarded gray bodies and that they smelled horrible, but they were inactive.

00:31:47.120 And it was just a note that she made.

00:31:49.540 And this idea has given rise or further given rise to the idea that the grays themselves

00:31:55.360 are a sort of automaton, like a biomechanical entity, not really living, but made up to some

00:32:03.100 degree of biological material.

00:32:05.400 And I just think that if you factor that into this entire equation, then what we're trying

00:32:12.580 to do split these things up into simple camps of like it's demons or it's aliens, it's

00:32:19.480 actually a lot more complex.

00:32:21.220 It seems there's a huge human element and a spiritual element, right?

00:32:26.240 We had Tucker Carlson recently, um, saying that this UFO phenomenon has a massive spiritual

00:32:32.800 element to it.

00:32:33.540 And we in the West have been detached from our understanding of spirituality.

00:32:36.680 So it seems like it's a, it's a multifaceted thing.

00:32:41.020 And it's been going on for a long time.

00:32:43.800 And they've been, honestly, for us to never get some sort of disclosure operation would

00:32:51.320 make no sense given the time and the, the, the money and the effort that has been dumped

00:32:57.080 into this thing for as long as it has been.

00:32:59.660 Well, I got a question, Jay.

00:33:01.080 So it seems like you're well studied in like the history of these PSYOPs from the forties

00:33:06.140 till now.

00:33:06.680 Um, is it just because we're living through another one of these PSYOPs that it seems

00:33:11.460 like it's been ramped up to 10?

00:33:12.700 Or do you think that this is, uh, uh, what we're witnessing now, this idea of like soft

00:33:18.120 disclosure where they're just playing footsie with us?

00:33:19.920 Is that something unique that we should be worried about?

00:33:23.240 Or am I mom, am I, am I, my mom saying like the world's going to end, you know, revelation

00:33:26.980 out of, uh, 30 years ago?

00:33:29.980 Um, my guess would be that they probably test the waters to see if the public reaction is

00:33:37.840 at the point where they would accept it at a large scale.

00:33:41.740 Um, that's just my guess.

00:33:43.040 I think a lot of things are teased to see how people react.

00:33:46.000 Then they wait, right.

00:33:47.380 See if there's a better time.

00:33:48.720 So my guess would be if they're, if they're really wanting to do a large scale, uh, announcement

00:33:53.540 of disclosure, they could do that very soon.

00:33:56.340 They could, you know, maybe it relates to inauguration or something like that.

00:34:01.180 Who knows?

00:34:02.040 Like, I mean, I don't think anybody saw, you know, KOOF coming in the year 2000 when they

00:34:06.720 rolled that out, which was a massive PSYOP.

00:34:08.640 But I mean, yeah, I think, I think they probably, uh, do a lot of research on, they probably use

00:34:15.360 AI too, to see like, you know, how many people are reacting as if they think this phenomenon

00:34:20.340 is, you know, other off world stuff.

00:34:22.720 How many of them think it's drones, blah, blah, blah.

00:34:24.940 So they probably just wait until the, you know, tipping point of majority believe whatever.

00:34:30.760 One thing I forgot to mention a minute ago that you guys will probably find funny is that

00:34:34.300 you've heard of, have you guys heard of the Esalen Institute?

00:34:37.240 No.

00:34:37.600 No.

00:34:38.200 So this is like, uh, it's, it still exists.

00:34:41.020 It's all, it's in Big Sur, California.

00:34:43.220 So if you go out to California and drive up past LA to Big Sur, which is like really, really

00:34:48.160 beautiful area to drive through.

00:34:50.200 Especially there's this big Institute that was set up, um, late sixties, early seventies

00:34:57.060 called the Esalen Institute.

00:34:58.620 And it's basically the think tank of the boomer new age counterculture.

00:35:05.300 Right.

00:35:05.720 So basically they would have every prominent new ager and person come speak there.

00:35:10.660 Like Aldous Huxley, Deepak Chopra, Carl Young has spoken there.

00:35:15.000 Like everybody has spoken at Esalen.

00:35:16.960 Yeah.

00:35:17.480 It still exists.

00:35:18.520 There it is.

00:35:19.080 And, um, it's like, it's really cool at that area.

00:35:24.500 But, but, but so, but, so I, I bought Esalen's official history, like the books over there

00:35:29.880 on the shelf, but, um, like they, they've had like Yoko Ono, John Denver, you know, celebrities

00:35:36.880 come there all the time.

00:35:38.160 It's basically just a big pusher for new age stuff.

00:35:40.400 A lot of what Blavatsky was pushing a long time ago is kind of churned out through Esalen

00:35:45.660 and, uh, in the 1970s, they were hosting all these lectures and ceremonies about how to

00:35:53.420 have sex with the aliens.

00:35:55.460 So they, they were like, they were pushing like, so this is just funny.

00:35:58.460 Cause in my mind, like the, so the boomers are so into the alien psyop that like the first

00:36:04.300 thing that they thought was, how do we fuck them?

00:36:06.000 Like, where do I get alien ass?

00:36:09.220 And that's, they're doing lectures on.

00:36:10.620 So, but to get more serious, like there's actually an element of Crowley and isn't involved

00:36:15.340 in this too, because Crowley's whole cult was about sex magic and through, uh, sex rituals,

00:36:22.120 basically getting possessed.

00:36:23.860 So you have to keep in mind that a lot of the occultists also identify aliens as the

00:36:29.500 gods and the demons.

00:36:31.340 So you even, you even have this branch of like serious Satanists who think that it's

00:36:35.640 demons and it's aliens and they're gods.

00:36:39.560 And we want to be possessed by them.

00:36:41.100 Right.

00:36:41.500 And if you read, uh, if you guys familiar with childhood's end by Arthur Clark, you should

00:36:47.440 watch the, it was the, the sci-fi channel made a series of it.

00:36:50.020 You should watch it.

00:36:50.620 Oh, childhood's end.

00:36:51.740 Yeah.

00:36:51.880 Yeah.

00:36:52.100 I watched, I bought the entire season recently on Amazon.

00:36:55.580 Right.

00:36:55.880 Right.

00:36:55.980 Right.

00:36:56.100 Okay.

00:36:56.400 Okay.

00:36:56.580 There you go.

00:36:57.240 Yeah.

00:36:57.440 Yeah.

00:36:57.640 So basically don't spoil it for you, but Corellon is the alien.

00:37:01.760 Yeah.

00:37:02.320 He literally looks like Satan, right?

00:37:04.400 Like in the book, like I've read the book, like he's portrayed as exactly you see in the,

00:37:08.620 in the show.

00:37:09.320 Yeah.

00:37:09.860 And you know, they want your children and they're going to, you know, like create a new

00:37:13.960 human race and all this.

00:37:15.200 But what do they do first?

00:37:16.080 It's like, they give us technology.

00:37:17.460 They give you tech.

00:37:18.440 Exactly.

00:37:18.680 They live in a utopia.

00:37:19.660 And then they finally reveal themselves to us and it's Satan.

00:37:23.680 And Clark was in the circles of Crowley people.

00:37:27.260 So he was like hanging out with, uh, at, uh, I forget the, the lodge that Crowley used

00:37:33.340 to have in Italy, Cephaloo or whatever.

00:37:35.180 We got our first depictions of an alien gray, right?

00:37:37.680 It is from Alex Crowley, the lamb that he would have, he would have, uh, interacted with.

00:37:42.260 Yeah.

00:37:42.420 I mean, this, this whole thing, it's like the, the government, the, the, the, the intelligence

00:37:47.180 agencies, the UFO phenomenon and, um, and you know, Satanic cults, right?

00:37:54.320 Yeah.

00:37:54.560 Satanic cults.

00:37:55.240 That's why I'm saying like the SRA studs experiences, it's all hand in hand, very similar

00:38:00.480 to like abduction experiences.

00:38:02.020 And by the way, this is another element that probably you've heard people make this connection,

00:38:05.400 but I, something that occurred to me, I was watching a documentary one time on sleep paralysis

00:38:10.040 and I was like, this sounds a lot like alien stuff.

00:38:12.720 Yes.

00:38:13.080 So my, my grandmother, actually, before we go there, uh, I just want to let everybody

00:38:17.040 know who's watching live on YouTube and rumble and Twitter that we are going to cut the stream,

00:38:22.580 uh, and we'll be heading over to Patreon exclusively, patreon.com backslash Nephilim death squad.

00:38:27.580 Um, we got to do some editing, but if you want to continue watching live, you can do so over

00:38:33.080 at patreon.com backslash Nephilim death squad.

00:38:35.440 Otherwise just give it a few days and the stream will drop in its entirety on our, uh, various

00:38:42.520 platforms.

00:38:43.100 So we're going to end those streams now.

00:38:44.940 Um, on that note, Jay, my grandmother was a lifelong abductee victim.

00:38:50.280 And, um, it is interesting that she also kind of went down like a new aged occult Avenue in

00:38:59.320 her latter years, um, writing paperwork on remote viewing.

00:39:03.720 She fancied herself some of a clairvoyant, but the thing that's significant is for the

00:39:08.860 longest time, she didn't know what was happening to her.

00:39:10.700 She was just describing these harrowing experiences that we would identify as sleep paralysis.

00:39:15.620 Um, however, it wasn't until she was much older and got her hands on a book by Whitley

00:39:21.680 Stryber called communion and communion is more or less an amalgamation of various abductee

00:39:27.960 victim testimonies.

00:39:29.280 And so reading those testimonies actually threw my grandmother into a, uh, a bit of

00:39:34.120 a spiral, but these things, yeah, they've always been intrinsically tied.

00:39:38.300 And it's my understanding that the intelligence agency had a affection for Alistair Crowley

00:39:43.940 or at least the, um, the English intelligence agencies.

00:39:47.140 I forget what you would call it, what their, what their CIA is called over there, but, uh,

00:39:51.120 Yeah, he was an asset for British intelligence, MI6, MI5, MI6.

00:39:55.300 There you go.

00:39:56.000 Yeah.

00:39:56.240 So these things hand in hand, always it's, I mean, honestly, when people look at conspiracies

00:40:01.620 and they go, you could never, you can never have that many people in on a thing.

00:40:05.300 You can never have that many people keep a secret.

00:40:07.120 This is one that they have been working tirelessly at.

00:40:10.040 And, and to your point, Jay, uh, seemingly testing the waters every once in a while, are

00:40:14.500 they ready?

00:40:15.100 How does the public receive it now?

00:40:16.700 What kind of feedback are we getting?

00:40:18.000 If we run a light op, is it time yet?

00:40:20.160 No, not yet.

00:40:20.700 And they'll pull it back endlessly patient.

00:40:22.760 You could argue.

00:40:23.880 Um, it's kind of amazing when you, when you consider all that, but the meat of this conversation,

00:40:29.800 which I'm, I'm really hoping we can make some sense of today, uh, is really important

00:40:34.300 to me because I, I mentioned before this character cliff high and, you know, he's got these prediction

00:40:40.420 sets.

00:40:40.800 And one of the things that he says is we're going to see a time soon because of the presence

00:40:44.840 of these aliens, we'll call them that as a placeholder for now, um, we're going to see

00:40:49.180 a massive falling away from the world religions because people won't be able to integrate this

00:40:53.320 into, you know, their worldview.

00:40:56.400 Um, and because I guess it's just in our nature when we're overwhelmed and shown something amazing,

00:41:02.300 we'll kind of like bend the knee and praise it, worship it.

00:41:05.620 And next thing you know, we've got, um, a cult around these things.

00:41:09.620 And so it's very much his contention along with a lot of other people.

00:41:12.480 You have, uh, by the way, Baba Vanga, who is a, a clairvoyant, um, a little babushka old

00:41:19.980 lady from like some European country.

00:41:21.780 She's famous for having predicted like nine 11, the death of princess Diana, even her own

00:41:26.100 death.

00:41:26.380 She was a blind woman.

00:41:27.720 I'm pretty sure, but she predicted her own death down to the day and said that 2025 is

00:41:33.020 when we're going to get aliens.

00:41:35.100 So, you know, we're talking about, go ahead.

00:41:37.220 Let me, I just cut in because I was trying to find the scripture before where we were talking

00:41:40.880 about these weird overlaps, but, uh, in the Bible, the book of Job chapter four, verse,

00:41:46.600 uh, uh, verse 13 and 14, this is the, where he's, he's almost describing sleep paralysis

00:41:53.320 as a phenomenon.

00:41:54.720 And he's talking about it in the thoughts from the, from the visions of night, when deep sleep

00:41:58.880 falls on men, fear came upon me and trembling, which made all of my bones shake.

00:42:02.700 And this is like that vibration feeling that people get where you're stuck.

00:42:05.580 And then the next scripture says, then a spirit passed before my face and the hair of my flesh

00:42:09.920 stood up.

00:42:10.260 So it's like, he's describing a, an event again, that is very alien.

00:42:14.540 Like, like where you're stuck, you cannot move, maybe a demon sitting on your chest, looking

00:42:19.160 at your face.

00:42:19.740 So it's like the same thing constantly just retold, repackaged, reskinned, but continue.

00:42:23.840 Sometimes I think that the, the, the acid can put you in the right state of mind for

00:42:27.920 them to do whatever it is they're doing.

00:42:29.480 But I also think they have technology, frequency technology that can put you in a certain state

00:42:33.680 that'll make it more conducive to having, because sometimes it seems like these experiences

00:42:37.080 aren't necessarily physical, although they appear physical, they seem to happen in a

00:42:41.220 different realm.

00:42:42.140 I'm wondering if it's because they are just, you know, putting you in a state of mind where

00:42:46.620 now you're in a, in a spiritual realm.

00:42:49.140 And I think that they're doing this with this, this technology.

00:42:51.680 It's like a, um, what would you call it?

00:42:53.560 A frequency admitter.

00:42:55.720 It's a low ultrasound or ultrasound.

00:42:59.640 Yeah.

00:42:59.720 I think it's like an ultrasound technology or something like that.

00:43:01.580 I'm probably using the wrong word, but, um,

00:43:04.380 so bringing it back to the core of this discussion, I, I worry about people and their inability

00:43:10.720 to make sense of what they're seeing.

00:43:12.440 I don't feel that way.

00:43:14.380 Um, but I recognize that a lot of Christians would feel that way.

00:43:17.120 A lot of people of a lot of different religions would feel that way.

00:43:19.580 And I think that they, it's only because of the narrative.

00:43:23.820 I see these things through a much different, a spiritual lens, an ancient lens.

00:43:27.360 Um, what do you, what do you make of this, this idea, right?

00:43:31.520 We've called the episode, a new alien religion.

00:43:33.920 So there is a lot of predictions that are saying that this is coming.

00:43:37.680 Um, can we unpack that a little bit?

00:43:39.480 And how do you read, you read my mind?

00:43:40.740 Cause that's where I was going to go.

00:43:41.760 And in fact, uh, if you go to my, my first book, which came out in 2016, there's a whole

00:43:46.900 section.

00:43:47.320 And when I did about a hundred pages, the whole second section after Kubrick is, uh, Spielberg's

00:43:53.980 Android space brothers.

00:43:55.300 And so basically I just went through the whole history of Hollywood, uh, like aliens mythologizing.

00:44:03.540 I know we've kind of moved on past Hollywood, but what I usually do in the books is tied into

00:44:07.460 the stuff that's going on, uh, in the culture at that time.

00:44:11.180 So like you had HG Wells, right, you know, writing this kind of alien stuff in the, in

00:44:17.500 the teens, twenties, thirties, but then you get in the 1940s and fifties, a lot of really

00:44:24.000 popular science fiction writers.

00:44:25.300 Like you get Heinlein and you get, uh, Hubbard and you get even Edward Rice Burroughs.

00:44:31.800 Um, and they're writing a lot of science fiction that is helping to craft this new myth, this

00:44:36.320 new religion.

00:44:36.940 In fact, HG Wells even said that when, and he was the key propagandist of that era, he

00:44:42.160 was like the dad granddaddy propagandist before Edward Bernays or any of these people.

00:44:46.040 He was saying that we're going to basically create and craft a new religion.

00:44:49.940 A lot of people don't know.

00:44:50.640 He has a lesser known book called God, the invisible King.

00:44:53.840 And in that book, Wells says that my God is Lucifer and that's the God of the new era that's

00:45:01.680 coming.

00:45:02.300 So keep in mind, the guy who says in God, the invisible King, that the future God is

00:45:06.740 Lucifer, exact same thing that Madame Blavatsky says, who's also in the same Fabian society

00:45:10.960 as he is.

00:45:11.840 They both say the God of the future is Lucifer.

00:45:14.420 He says, we're going to bring this about through us, the scientific elite class crafting and

00:45:20.600 creating a new religion for the future.

00:45:22.840 I've actually written multiple books on that.

00:45:25.300 They will craft the new religion of the future.

00:45:27.300 It'll probably be based around some alien mythos because what's the big thing that HG

00:45:33.420 Wells like crafted the alien mythos?

00:45:36.060 We have an external threat and only a global government with a global religion pushing

00:45:41.040 it would save us from this external threat.

00:45:43.360 Who was the president that said I often, you know, daydream?

00:45:47.020 Reagan.

00:45:47.380 Who was the president that talked about?

00:45:49.280 Oh, Reagan.

00:45:49.940 There you go.

00:45:50.320 There you go.

00:45:50.700 Yeah.

00:45:51.040 So this has been there forever.

00:45:52.840 Also, part of this is the mythos of Darwin, because a lot of the Darwinists over the years,

00:46:02.500 especially the famous ones, Watson and Crick and others, right?

00:46:05.480 The founders of the DNA Helix, like they push the panspermia mythos and a lot of the alien

00:46:13.220 science fiction stories push the panspermia mythos.

00:46:17.760 Are you guys familiar with that?

00:46:18.720 Yeah, it's the same thing that Zachariah Sitchin is talking about with the Anunnaki, this idea

00:46:22.600 that they created us, they altered us from primal sort of monkeys into this really effective

00:46:29.980 slave class.

00:46:30.800 Yeah, the real gods are the aliens and we're their genetic experiment.

00:46:35.020 And the story is they seeded us here like a garden and they've got to come back and,

00:46:40.340 you know, see how we, how did we breed?

00:46:43.760 Do they need to cultivate and cull the garden?

00:46:45.960 And so that always ties into some kind of a mythos about, you know, depopulation.

00:46:51.820 And point being here is that transhumanism also ties into this because a lot of the mythology

00:46:57.900 of the alien, modern alien stuff is that, oh, they've given us the AI and the tech, kind

00:47:05.160 of like childhood's end, kind of like V, not V for vendetta, but V.

00:47:08.980 And so they have to, you know, are you humans, are pets, are you going to handle this wisely

00:47:15.400 or do we need to come spank you?

00:47:17.240 It's the Promethean archetype, right?

00:47:18.140 Like this idea that they're bringing us, you know, tech.

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00:48:50.120 Technology and such.

00:48:52.080 Do you guys remember when, this is going to sound like from left field, Elon Musk was

00:48:56.940 having that beef with Kanye West, right?

00:48:58.960 When he bans him for the final time, he banned him off of Twitter.

00:49:02.580 I guess he's back now.

00:49:04.400 What started his ban was Kanye posting a swastika inside of a Jewish star, which was supposed

00:49:12.740 to be offensive because it's like, oh, Nazis and Jews.

00:49:15.680 It's Rael.

00:49:16.840 It's a Raelian sign.

00:49:18.520 And then you consider like, you know, Elon and Jesus, what's the guy's name?

00:49:23.720 The Nazi, Wernher von Braun that wrote the book and that, you know, it's just kind of

00:49:27.280 like, it's a lot.

00:49:28.460 And then the transhumanism aspect with Neuralink.

00:49:31.680 I'm just like, too many red flags are going up with this guy.

00:49:34.900 I can't.

00:49:35.160 He's talking about, what's this guy, L. Ron Hubbard.

00:49:38.540 And it's like, he's, he's, you want to talk about somebody who's up Alistair Crowley's

00:49:42.680 ass.

00:49:43.540 L. Ron Hubbard is literally, yeah, literally hanging out with Parsons, yeah, literally in

00:49:48.440 the desert, you know, trying to, whatever it is, the Babylon workings or some shit like

00:49:51.760 that.

00:49:51.900 Like, it's all these things are so, honestly, I love what we're talking about here because

00:49:58.220 if you listen to this and you can't see this, you're fucking retarded.

00:50:02.160 I got nothing for you if you can't see through this.

00:50:04.960 This is the place for you.

00:50:05.960 If you're retarded, you're at the right show.

00:50:07.880 Yeah, also welcome.

00:50:10.440 All right, let's continue.

00:50:11.700 Sorry, Jay.

00:50:12.400 No, no, I totally agree.

00:50:13.760 I mean, I've just, like, when I did my analysis of E.T., like, the whole point of E.T. is getting,

00:50:20.360 you know, 80s kids to fall in love with aliens.

00:50:24.620 Like, and everything that E.T. does, I'm not saying it's, I mean, as a movie, it's a movie,

00:50:28.660 it's an entertaining movie.

00:50:29.500 But if you go back and think about it from a propaganda standpoint, like, the whole point

00:50:33.680 is that, you know, E.T. is basically teaching him these occult powers and practices.

00:50:38.340 They're actually linked because everything that Elliot's doing, E.T. is doing, they're

00:50:42.820 experiencing, they have this mystical bond.

00:50:45.200 And then before E.T. leaves, he, like, touches his, it's like Adam and Eve, Adam and God in

00:50:52.260 the, you know, painting.

00:50:53.600 And he touches his third eye to awaken him.

00:50:57.240 And so, like, in my, in that chapter, I put the lamb, that's Crowley's lamb, right?

00:51:03.180 That's supposed to be the, quote, entity that he channeled and contacted when he was having

00:51:09.860 his channeling sessions.

00:51:11.320 Gave us the scaffolding for our modern day alien great.

00:51:13.960 You know, what's also interesting is we were talking in the last episode about how in Stranger

00:51:19.060 things, Eleven's name, she goes by El, and how that's significant because of Elohim.

00:51:25.580 And it's funny that Elliot is in the E.T. movie, and it's another one, El.

00:51:30.520 Yeah, there he is, like, touching his third eye to initiate him, right?

00:51:34.260 Yeah, yeah, nasty finger.

00:51:36.740 Oh, God, I wish we weren't so steeped into, like, just occult symbolism everywhere we go.

00:51:42.500 It's kind of gross, dude.

00:51:44.600 Have you seen Close Encounters?

00:51:46.480 Um, man, I don't know if I've seen Close Encounters.

00:51:49.040 Oh, you guys should watch that.

00:51:49.800 That's the one where they're, like, boo, bee, bee, boo.

00:51:52.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:51:53.600 You should go watch that.

00:51:54.300 I don't remember shit from that movie, though.

00:51:55.420 You should go watch it.

00:51:56.200 Like, it's crazy because just, I'm not going to spoil it, but basically Richard Dreyfuss is

00:52:01.660 just, like, this regular middle-class dad, and he starts having these premonitions and

00:52:08.640 visions and ideas that, like, aliens are contacting him.

00:52:11.720 And so he gets this, like, crazy idea that he's got to leave his family and go join an

00:52:19.240 alien cult, basically.

00:52:21.200 And then there's these other people who are the Chosen who also do the same thing.

00:52:25.780 And, of course, Spielberg, like, laces this with actual psyops and cover-ups.

00:52:30.960 Like, there's real information going on in this.

00:52:33.360 But it's promoting the alien mythos because it's all about, like, the new religion of

00:52:39.480 the future is this, like, alien thing that's coming.

00:52:43.140 And, yeah, it's okay to, like, leave your family and your kids and all that because you're

00:52:46.920 chosen and you have a higher calling, which is to this new future alien religion.

00:52:51.600 It's wild if you go watch it.

00:52:53.400 What do you make of when you—all right, so you have, like, a Gary Wayne's Genesis 6

00:52:57.420 conspiracy.

00:52:57.860 And it becomes a very contentious point for people within the Christian community.

00:53:01.240 But, you know, to use that as your baseline to say there is some precedent for these other

00:53:07.240 entities that are worshipped by various cultures around the world actually having been these

00:53:12.280 watchers that were cast out of heaven who rebelled against God.

00:53:16.260 And if you look at the world through that lens, admittedly, there is a lot of things that

00:53:22.100 click into place.

00:53:22.800 It becomes easier to understand other religions because you kind of go, like, oh, okay, like,

00:53:28.860 the Vedics, if they were really worshipping fallen entities, like, honestly, that's profound,

00:53:33.120 right?

00:53:33.320 You would be blown away if you saw these things.

00:53:36.060 It's not that they didn't exist and these people are out of their minds, but it's that

00:53:38.920 they were subjected to something that was deceiving them and was far in excess to anything they

00:53:43.560 had been exposed to before.

00:53:44.540 So throughout history, if you use that as your baseline, it would seem that these things

00:53:51.520 are in a continuous quid pro quo with humanity.

00:53:55.660 We will give you knowledge, information, hidden arts, various things of that nature in exchange

00:54:03.600 for what could arguably be reduced to genetic material, right?

00:54:09.680 Because if you take into consideration Gary Wayne's theory, it seems like there was a

00:54:14.460 real effort to muddy the genetics of humanity by creating all these kind of chimeric creatures

00:54:20.860 and offspring, Nephilim, and things like that.

00:54:23.980 But that idea of an exchange of technology and information for genetic material, you can see

00:54:34.100 that echoed in the abduction phenomenon.

00:54:37.160 Well, I mean, you see it echoed here by you were just talking about Esalen.

00:54:40.300 Do you know how far they got with having sex with these things?

00:54:44.180 No, I think they're finished.

00:54:45.360 Did they not?

00:54:46.300 Did they not?

00:54:46.880 Yeah, this was just like boomers wanting to like have an orgy.

00:54:50.360 They weren't really, they were just discussing it.

00:54:53.540 So they didn't really do it.

00:54:54.580 But I mean, there is that idea that like, could the, you know, fallen entities, the watchers,

00:55:04.780 the Nephilim, could they then seed offspring?

00:55:08.400 I tend to think that the purpose for the flood was to stop that.

00:55:12.480 So I don't believe that that's continuing in my view of the theology of that.

00:55:17.320 I don't think that, I mean, is it possible that you could have a return of these entities

00:55:22.820 to try to continue to do that?

00:55:25.180 Maybe God would allow that at the end times or something that's possible.

00:55:28.580 I don't know.

00:55:29.560 So I don't have any hard set view on that.

00:55:31.320 But I don't think that, I don't think that amongst humans, there's like a tainted like

00:55:36.820 genetic serpent seed or anything like that.

00:55:38.620 I know you're not saying that, but I disagree with the serpent seed thesis.

00:55:42.380 And a lot of times some of the alien mythology cult stuff, I know that's not what Gary is

00:55:48.160 saying, but sometimes this can play into like the Fed angle of like the Christian identity

00:55:53.960 movement who uses this.

00:55:55.580 And if you go back to like McVeigh, when he was involved in Elohim City, like that's part

00:56:00.040 of the mythos that they had at Elohim City was this Christian identity serpent seed idea

00:56:05.400 that like other races, other people groups are genetically damaged people groups.

00:56:11.520 And some of the alien cults have also continued that the Raelians, for example, have this DNA

00:56:15.880 genetics component.

00:56:17.920 They claim to have cloned people.

00:56:19.280 I personally, I don't believe that.

00:56:20.300 I don't think they've actually cloned people.

00:56:21.960 I'm a skeptic on a lot of those kind of like human cloning claims.

00:56:24.680 And I'm also a skeptic on the hybrid chimera claims.

00:56:29.840 I know Alex is a big believer in that, but I just, a lot of like a lot of science is just

00:56:34.960 total bullshit, like the scientism claims.

00:56:37.820 So I'm not saying that I know that that doesn't exist.

00:56:41.260 I'm just saying that I don't trust the people telling me that there's clones and chimeras.

00:56:46.880 And also when you look into it, like remember when they grew an ear on the back of that?

00:56:52.240 Yeah.

00:56:52.860 That was all fake.

00:56:53.740 All they did was like insert ear cartilage underneath the skin of a mouse.

00:56:59.760 And then when it was like still there for a while, they were like, oh, look, we grew an

00:57:03.340 ear.

00:57:03.520 I mean, I just, a lot of science is bullshit.

00:57:06.320 So I don't know.

00:57:07.220 I just literally don't know.

00:57:08.280 Like quantum computers.

00:57:09.540 I don't know if, I mean, when I listened to the explanation of the quantum computer a

00:57:13.900 couple of weeks ago, they're always raving over.

00:57:15.540 It's like, and we've, we've now proven that it could pull from the other universes.

00:57:19.900 The multiverse has proven by the, nobody's actually seen this quantum chip in the public

00:57:24.200 sphere.

00:57:24.940 There's no way to actually prove that it's pulling information from another dimension.

00:57:28.700 And to me, it's bullshit.

00:57:29.520 Jay, what Tripoli said on it, Tripoli had, it's just one of those moments where it's

00:57:34.280 like, it's, it's right there in front of your face.

00:57:36.620 If it, if this new quantum Google computer solved this problem that another quantum computer

00:57:43.720 would have taken, what was it?

00:57:44.720 It was like billions of years, like 18 billion years.

00:57:48.080 How the fuck do you know it's true then?

00:57:50.880 How do you know that the answer is the right answer?

00:57:53.060 It's so it's right in front of your face, dude.

00:57:55.860 It's like, it's, it's like a fucking steal the bike Tyson where he's like, Oh, you know,

00:58:01.540 we looked at the black matter and it's there for sure.

00:58:03.760 But like, every time we look on it, uh, we, we have to shed light on it and it moves.

00:58:08.360 You've never seen it, but, but it's there.

00:58:10.920 So there was a great story.

00:58:12.400 Have you heard the story of, uh, I got to find this clip.

00:58:15.060 It's probably totally scrubbed or it'd be impossible to find, but I've actually seen

00:58:18.660 the clip.

00:58:19.060 It was a real clip.

00:58:19.880 So William Shatner was invited to this, uh, like tour of NASA.

00:58:26.400 Right.

00:58:26.800 And they showed him all this stuff and he met all these astrophysicists and all this stuff.

00:58:30.860 And the funny thing is that I kid you not.

00:58:33.480 So after all this, like William Shatner's like, uh, he's like, they took me around and

00:58:38.460 I noticed like everything that they were telling me, everything we're doing, it's just like

00:58:42.140 star Trek.

00:58:43.120 It's like, and he goes, he goes, they're just doing science fiction.

00:58:46.820 They're doing the same thing we did on the show.

00:58:49.340 So he literally says that in his vantage point of after this tour of NASA, that they're,

00:58:53.720 they're just doing like sci-fi.

00:58:55.160 Yeah.

00:58:55.620 So I'm very skeptical.

00:58:57.160 I'm not saying they laid the groundwork, dude.

00:58:59.160 They showed us all these concepts in Hollywood.

00:59:01.100 And now they're like, by the way, we're executing them.

00:59:03.560 Yeah.

00:59:03.760 It's, uh, do you know who, do you know who consulted on the show?

00:59:05.940 Star Trek, the old one, the sixties one.

00:59:07.720 Uh, no, I don't.

00:59:08.760 The rain corporation.

00:59:10.640 Why is the rain corporation consulting on Star Trek?

00:59:13.880 Interesting.

00:59:14.240 What do you make about the idea that like, um, you know, so you have like an L. Ron Hubbard,

00:59:19.020 he's a prolific science fiction author.

00:59:21.660 Um, and it seems that in so many ways, and obviously there's no answer to this.

00:59:25.980 I'm just asking you to speculate, but it seems that in so many ways, so many creatives, um,

00:59:30.780 are drawing from some sort of inspiration outside of them.

00:59:34.140 So, you know, some people would identify it as the muses.

00:59:37.000 Um, I think Stephen King says that his ideas came to him in a dream.

00:59:41.020 Right.

00:59:41.380 And by the way, wasn't he like a raging alcoholic?

00:59:43.620 So he's always in an altered state as well.

00:59:45.800 Uh, cocaine, right.

00:59:46.760 He's always in an altered state and he is getting his stories from his dreams.

00:59:51.440 Um, given that so much of science fiction is consistent with other science, and obviously

00:59:57.380 there's ways in which it's not, but given that there is so many elements of science fiction

01:00:01.100 that is consistent from one author to another author, and given the fact that we have these

01:00:04.440 ideas for artists channeling, oftentimes, right, or, uh, being in some sort of altered

01:00:10.280 state while they're getting this information or claiming to have gotten the idea for their

01:00:14.220 amazing works in a dream.

01:00:16.080 I can't help but wonder, um, to what extent these things are, these ideas are being conveyed

01:00:22.020 to them and not actually.

01:00:23.340 Or entire religions, for example, Muhammad believing in the Hadiths that he was possessed

01:00:28.720 because he would fall over and have convulsions and foam at the mouth.

01:00:32.760 Literally says it's in the Hadiths.

01:00:35.140 And so he, yeah, he thought he, he thought he was possessed and getting these revelations.

01:00:40.720 And then they were like, uh, no, no, you are actually a prophet.

01:00:43.740 So, um, no, I think, I think you're absolutely right there to say that, yeah, you can definitely

01:00:48.800 get these influences from that domain, from that dimension, that realm.

01:00:52.800 Many of the people who claim this claim that, right?

01:00:56.120 Like, right.

01:00:56.760 It's not just John C. Lilly.

01:00:59.020 It's, it's a lot of other people that claim that.

01:01:00.980 I mean, and I mean, artists too, right?

01:01:03.680 This goes all the way back to, so Plato has a lesser known dialogue called Ion.

01:01:07.600 And in Ion, he's, Socrates is going out and interviewing local Greek musicians and poets.

01:01:15.740 And the idea is, you know, who should we follow in life?

01:01:20.160 Should we listen to the statesmen, the politicians, the philosopher, the poet, the musician?

01:01:26.400 And that dialogue is funny because he comes to the conclusion that the musicians and the

01:01:31.840 poets are possessed.

01:01:32.940 And so they're actually going into these altered drug states or altered states of consciousness

01:01:37.680 through other means, getting inspiration.

01:01:39.760 And he's like, and they're insane.

01:01:41.600 It's like, that's what, and so that's part of the reason why, uh, in, uh, the Republic,

01:01:47.620 Plato's Republic, like poetry, music, and this kind of, the arts are super controlled because

01:01:52.160 Plato believed that if you allow the artists and the poets to run society, like everybody

01:01:55.980 would just go crazy and insane because they're.

01:01:57.900 Okay.

01:01:58.300 But that's where we are, Jay.

01:01:59.500 No, I mean, look, liberalism has a real affection.

01:02:02.760 For the arts, you could say that they're more closely related than like conservatism.

01:02:06.740 Right.

01:02:06.900 And so we have now existed for some time in a period where the liberals, the artists are

01:02:13.020 allowed to call the shots.

01:02:14.300 And what do we get?

01:02:15.120 We get debauchery, immorality.

01:02:17.720 Yes.

01:02:19.080 Yeah.

01:02:19.580 I guess he was right.

01:02:20.700 And one other point on the drug element too.

01:02:23.920 Um, so, uh, when we did our Vegas event, um, on the way out there, we had a lot of time

01:02:29.560 to read.

01:02:30.040 And so Jamie and I were on the whole drive out.

01:02:32.240 There's like two week drive.

01:02:33.160 We were reading, uh, the camp, the recently, uh, published Cambridge companion to Western

01:02:38.320 esotericism and mysticism.

01:02:39.920 And this was a really, actually a really good book because it was an academic approach to

01:02:44.600 the ancient mysteries, Kabbalah, medieval mysticism, hermeticism, alchemy, all the stuff,

01:02:51.040 theosophy, all of it.

01:02:52.820 And the chapter on the ancient mysteries is really good because, uh, they now, um, I'm

01:02:58.140 not saying I automatically believe academics, but it's always good to get their analysis.

01:03:01.540 They are, they are thinking now that even the ancient Greek mystery religions like the,

01:03:07.280 uh, uh, Dionysian mysteries and the Orphic mysteries that actually the process of the

01:03:14.840 ritual initiation involved a culmination with high powered hallucinogen.

01:03:20.240 So I would say probably, and I'm not saying all religions are the result of drug use.

01:03:25.460 I mean, some people in the atheist sphere make this argument, but there is, I think something

01:03:29.240 to this point of a lot of religions do use drugs.

01:03:32.820 I have a, I have multiple books on the history of shaman.

01:03:35.820 I'm talking not conspiracy books, but like history of shamanism, history of ancient Hindu

01:03:40.540 religions and others.

01:03:41.420 Like, I think drugs have played a key role in a lot of world religions.

01:03:44.300 And I don't think it's accidental that the initiates, they were in the Greek mysteries are

01:03:49.280 called the misty eye.

01:03:50.160 Like they're taking these high power hallucinogens and talking to the gods.

01:03:53.260 Why are we getting, if all the world religions are potentially many of them, we'll say, let's

01:04:00.580 say most of them are using drugs and they're talking to the gods and the gods are telling

01:04:05.680 them it's time to sacrifice your firstborn.

01:04:08.540 It's time to have a, you know, one world empire and worship us.

01:04:12.180 We love you.

01:04:12.860 Put this in your butt.

01:04:13.660 Exactly.

01:04:14.120 Put these things in your butt.

01:04:15.120 It's all the same message.

01:04:16.520 And guess what?

01:04:17.080 It's the same message today, right?

01:04:19.620 Like it's not, it's a no brainer.

01:04:20.940 It seems like drugs are a good way to thin that veil, create a sort of a spiritual portal.

01:04:29.120 Dr. Jerry Marzinski, who's somebody whose name we can't stop saying, says that in his

01:04:34.200 estimation, methamphetamine best mirrors schizophrenia, which he has after all his time in the field

01:04:41.600 decided that schizophrenia is demonic influence.

01:04:44.900 And he's saying that, you know, drug use dependent on which drug depends on the severity of the

01:04:51.140 opening that these things have access to you through.

01:04:54.080 But it also seems that another way to do it, we're talking about satanic ritual abuse.

01:04:57.900 There's a, I guess, you know, more than one way to skin a cat.

01:05:01.540 It seems that trauma, especially childhood trauma, does fracture the mind in such a way

01:05:07.580 as to create an opening for these entities and where, you know, the medical apparatus would

01:05:12.580 dismiss it as, you know, schizophrenic chemical imbalance in the brain.

01:05:18.400 The consistencies in dealing with these entities, there's too many patterns.

01:05:23.260 It seems like they have personalities even.

01:05:25.860 They are, you know, actual living entities, living in whatever sense of the word.

01:05:31.640 But I just find that interesting because the drugs are really a gateway and they'll do it quickly.

01:05:37.900 But it seems the trauma, if done correctly, will create a lifetime of interacting with these

01:05:44.180 entities, whereas you might be able to do DMT, slide out of that realm and hopefully not have

01:05:48.400 to talk to a machine elf again.

01:05:50.640 Yeah.

01:05:51.120 And in John C.

01:05:51.740 Lilly's book at the one of his other books, the one called Programming and Metaprogramming

01:05:57.280 in the Human Biocomputer, again, and remember, this is like one of the most famous MKLs for

01:06:02.020 doctors.

01:06:02.720 He worked to develop implantable chips for the Navy.

01:06:06.680 And so this is like a legit dude.

01:06:08.080 He's the one that had the dolphin fetish.

01:06:09.620 At the end of his mind control book, he says that he was also experimenting on children to

01:06:15.760 see if he could, through things like LSD, completely reprogram a child.

01:06:20.380 He admits this in the summary at the end of the book.

01:06:23.120 I mean, it's pretty, I mean, when I first heard this, I didn't believe it.

01:06:25.820 I was like, he wouldn't admit that.

01:06:27.800 I've got the book right up here.

01:06:28.900 He does.

01:06:29.460 The very end of the chapter of the book, he admits it.

01:06:32.060 So he tried, but what were his findings?

01:06:35.140 Well, he doesn't say how successful it was.

01:06:37.000 And also that book is almost unreadable.

01:06:39.500 It's like, it's really weird.

01:06:41.560 Like it's, it's, I don't know half of what he's talking about in that book.

01:06:46.060 And I don't know if anybody really does.

01:06:48.160 Is it that he's using to describe it or?

01:06:49.960 Say what?

01:06:50.820 What is it that makes the book difficult to, because he's such a renowned guy.

01:06:54.280 He's got like all of his own, like, uh, like language.

01:06:57.840 Let me see.

01:06:58.600 Oh, that's not helpful.

01:07:00.240 If you're trying to read a book and this dude's got his own language.

01:07:03.000 Does that have wheels on it, Jay?

01:07:04.480 Jesus, dude.

01:07:05.260 No, it doesn't.

01:07:06.560 Another flex.

01:07:07.740 Look.

01:07:08.100 So here's the book.

01:07:10.040 I think it's still like, you can find the PDF if you don't want to like buy the actual book.

01:07:14.180 Okay.

01:07:14.880 Programming.

01:07:15.300 It looks like a Dixie cup.

01:07:16.420 Human biocomputer.

01:07:17.220 It does.

01:07:17.660 It looks like that old school.

01:07:19.280 Yeah.

01:07:19.620 Yeah.

01:07:19.860 Yeah.

01:07:20.160 I like that.

01:07:20.760 You're, uh, what are those called?

01:07:23.300 The little sheets of paper are also color coded to the book's cover.

01:07:27.440 That's accidental.

01:07:31.080 So as you can see, this is, it's not a conspiracy book.

01:07:33.960 It's an actual, like, you know, academic publication here.

01:07:37.340 What would it be under the, like a psychological analysis by John C.

01:07:42.160 Lilly?

01:07:45.860 It's just called theory and experiments.

01:07:48.460 Uh, I mean, like the first chapter is LSD.

01:07:50.780 Like the first chapter is his mentioning of LSD.

01:07:55.820 Self-hypnosis.

01:07:57.820 Like he said, it's like zero level external reality.

01:08:00.780 Like it's all this kind of just like unknowable gibberish.

01:08:04.320 Yeah.

01:08:04.640 Quantum, quantum, quantum, quantum.

01:08:06.320 But every time someone says quantum, like you're just saying too smart for you to understand.

01:08:11.940 Like here's an example.

01:08:13.580 So here's a diagram at the back of the book where he's talking about, these are supposed

01:08:17.160 to be, I think, levels in your mental program.

01:08:19.840 Like it's laid out like a computer program.

01:08:21.620 He's saying the human is like a computer.

01:08:23.120 So there's like the base program and then there's programs on top of programs.

01:08:28.740 Oh, so there's the underlying program that's running in the background and then there's

01:08:32.600 the one that augmented.

01:08:34.280 And then you've got all this kind of gibberish, like the hypothalamic in short and the central

01:08:38.700 gray short.

01:08:39.460 So, I mean, half of this shit, he had no idea what he's talking about.

01:08:42.840 However, the last chapter, he's like, turns out he's like, so you, yeah, you want to know

01:08:47.380 what it's really about?

01:08:48.200 I'm like messing with kids.

01:08:49.520 Look, it's all underlined in shape.

01:08:53.660 It's like very important.

01:08:55.080 Self-organizing aspects of computer programming and programs are now conceptually reasonable

01:08:58.860 and real and realizable in modern non-biological computers.

01:09:03.040 Good God, dude.

01:09:04.080 Yeah.

01:09:04.200 Right here.

01:09:04.800 Right here.

01:09:05.500 What's that say there?

01:09:06.340 In the child.

01:09:07.680 Hold on.

01:09:08.060 Let me make this big real quick.

01:09:09.320 In the child.

01:09:10.100 In the child, automatic metaprogram implantation or externally forced metaprogramming persists

01:09:17.140 as metaprograms below the levels of awareness in the adult can be controlling for the latter

01:09:26.020 adult programs, adult thinking and adult behavior.

01:09:29.180 Energy can be taken from some of those automatic metaprograms and transferred to the self-metaprogram

01:09:33.580 with special techniques and special central states, the medically.

01:09:38.360 No, chemically evoked.

01:09:39.480 Oh, chemically evoked.

01:09:41.280 Chemically evoked.

01:09:42.020 Yeah.

01:09:42.200 So he's saying like, you can do this to kids and it still controls them when they're

01:09:46.700 adult.

01:09:47.620 This is one of the top MKUltra doctors admitting this, right?

01:09:50.240 That's incredible.

01:09:51.120 And if people think that's crazy, we'll remember Alfred Kinsey funded by the Rockefeller Foundation

01:09:55.020 was like molesting kids through all of his experiments for years.

01:09:59.540 And you got to ask who's facilitating this.

01:10:01.300 Who's funding him to molest kids?

01:10:03.880 Yeah.

01:10:04.140 Incredible.

01:10:04.780 I also, it's wild that the first chunk of the book is like, you know, all these different

01:10:08.880 things.

01:10:09.140 And by the last of it, he might as well say like, yeah, I spent a lot of time doing other

01:10:12.180 shit.

01:10:12.440 Turns out drug the kids, drug the kids, abuse them.

01:10:15.240 It's going to work a lot better than, you know, the first third.

01:10:17.320 Also, I have a sexual fetish for dolphins.

01:10:19.500 Like these people are insane.

01:10:21.100 Have you ever seen a dolphin?

01:10:22.160 It's incredible.

01:10:22.760 Very sleek.

01:10:23.780 Very sexy.

01:10:24.780 Yeah.

01:10:25.960 It kind of gets me thinking about, uh, this is a donut.

01:10:28.740 They're like, they're phallic.

01:10:31.000 Yeah.

01:10:31.180 They're sort of pickle shaped.

01:10:32.300 They're just wet dicks.

01:10:33.580 It's the best type of shape.

01:10:34.580 Uh, it gets me thinking about, uh, like donuts idea of re like hacking the human body and

01:10:40.220 kind of like resetting the mind, especially coming into this.

01:10:43.440 That's what this book is.

01:10:44.320 Yeah.

01:10:44.560 Right.

01:10:44.880 But now we have this as a, like a prolific, you go to Walmart and they have t-shirts with

01:10:49.500 mushrooms on them.

01:10:50.440 You know, um, Joe Rogan pushing DMT, uh, just recently, who's the guy, the poker dude, we

01:10:56.460 were talking about him just before.

01:10:57.600 Um, he's like real jacked where his eyeliner looks kind of gay, but he's telling people,

01:11:02.620 he's like, I don't smoke weed anymore.

01:11:03.960 Oh, Dan Bilzerian, he's like, but do mushrooms.

01:11:07.900 And I'm like, how could you prescribe that?

01:11:09.400 Just blanket to a population of, I don't know how many people you're talking to.

01:11:13.100 And also read the Quran.

01:11:14.760 So, yeah, yeah.

01:11:16.100 It's so they're reprogramming people to accept a certain thing here.

01:11:20.320 What you got there, Jay?

01:11:21.080 Let's see.

01:11:21.500 This is another one of the most, you've heard of Jose Delgado, right?

01:11:24.480 I've not heard of you.

01:11:25.520 He's like the, one of the other most, he's one of the other most famous and killed her doctors.

01:11:29.700 Huh?

01:11:30.080 I don't know.

01:11:30.680 Physical mind, physical control of the mind toward, I mean, they literally just write

01:11:35.360 books like, yeah, we're, that subtitle, it says to the, what was it one more time?

01:11:41.500 Can you hold it up?

01:11:42.340 Uh, toward the psycho civilized society.

01:11:45.360 So what are we doing?

01:11:45.940 We're programming minds to make a more civilized society.

01:11:48.940 It's always altruistic, isn't it?

01:11:51.420 Absolutely.

01:11:52.020 For the greater good.

01:11:53.360 Yeah.

01:11:53.540 I mean, so like, uh, Kubrick's version of Clockwork Orange.

01:11:58.020 Yeah.

01:11:58.480 You guys seen that?

01:11:59.140 Um, no, I've not seen Kubrick's version of it, but by the way, before you go on that

01:12:02.900 tangent, I was told, and I don't know that we're going to do with this episode.

01:12:05.500 So I just want to recommend it to you this morning, uh, Kim Kardashian dropped a very

01:12:10.280 cryptic video that is rich with Kubrick esque kind of symbolism.

01:12:14.800 Uh, obviously it, you know, it pays homage to the shining in so many ways and on its face,

01:12:19.720 it provides nothing of value.

01:12:21.600 It sells nothing to you whatsoever, except the promise of a background filled with subliminal

01:12:28.620 messages.

01:12:28.980 And so I'm looking forward to hopefully a Jay Dyer breakdown of what the hell's going

01:12:34.120 on in that video.

01:12:34.980 Because you, you vibed perfectly with, with my thought process there.

01:12:39.120 Yeah.

01:12:39.280 In fact, my, my, I was just talking to my wife a minute ago about how we need to analyze

01:12:42.440 that.

01:12:43.040 Yeah.

01:12:43.480 Yeah.

01:12:43.700 I wanted to do it, but I just, I used to have my wits about me more when it came to symbolism

01:12:47.380 and I kind of put it all to bed, but there's so much there that it like beckons you to look

01:12:50.760 at it.

01:12:50.980 It, like I said, it offers absolutely nothing on the surface of value, nothing whatsoever

01:12:55.220 at all, except for maybe Kim Kardashian's tits.

01:12:57.440 If you think that those are valuable, but otherwise it is a walk through a Kubrick film.

01:13:03.280 Um, and you are like hard pressed to try to catch the shit.

01:13:06.620 It's coming at you so fast.

01:13:07.780 And, and in the end of it, I don't, I don't know what my takeaway was.

01:13:11.320 I mean, I did a piss poor job this morning, just like peripherally analyzing, but I think

01:13:14.780 it needs to be stopped frame by frame.

01:13:17.260 That's how rich it is.

01:13:18.540 Yeah.

01:13:18.860 Well, if you remember, they put out a Christmas card, uh, some years back that had like, you

01:13:23.180 know, pentagrams, all seeing eyes, all kinds of stuff in the, in the Christmas card.

01:13:27.660 And, uh, so they have a history of putting this out, I think near Christmas on purpose

01:13:31.240 because it's like an inversion.

01:13:33.240 Um, and a lot of the satanic, uh, you know, families and like they see doing something at

01:13:38.700 those, those dates as a kind of a ritual action, right?

01:13:41.740 So if you want to commit a ritual that's powerful, you blaspheme near Christmas.

01:13:47.240 I mean, yeah.

01:13:49.320 Um, they talk about that in their books, but, um, I was going to say about, uh, clockwork

01:13:55.820 orange.

01:13:56.280 Yeah.

01:13:56.380 You should watch that movie just because the, the, the premise of the movie is actually

01:13:59.360 about MK ultra.

01:14:00.700 Cause Cooper knew about it.

01:14:02.980 And, and the only reason I bring it up is like literally the doctors in the film, based

01:14:08.980 on the book, they're basically saying we're going to have to MK ultra everybody to create

01:14:12.820 a psycho civilized society.

01:14:14.700 So basically, yeah.

01:14:15.780 And it's, that's one of those things also, cause Kubrick, Kubrick is just so prolific

01:14:18.940 with the subliminal messaging in the background.

01:14:20.440 That's one of your, your pop culture references to adrenochrome is in the back of.

01:14:25.920 It is.

01:14:26.360 I saw that.

01:14:26.920 Yeah.

01:14:27.160 And I'd never noticed that.

01:14:28.280 I'd never noticed that.

01:14:29.080 Well, that's the thing.

01:14:30.100 It's like Kubrick films are the gift that keeps on, uh, there's a, there's a scene in

01:14:35.360 that Kim Kardashian video where, uh, there is a nun in red laying on her back on the ground

01:14:40.760 and she utters only the phrase, uh, he is not a man of God.

01:14:44.580 And it's like, dude, it's just so it's haunting.

01:14:48.600 The whole thing is haunting.

01:14:50.140 Um, I believe that the, like, if I had to guess, I can't prove this, but I think the,

01:14:56.040 they're probably like generational, like committed Satanists.

01:14:59.720 I think so.

01:15:00.280 I think that family is.

01:15:01.660 I, I have a big soft spot for Kanye West.

01:15:04.680 And I think that sometimes I look at him and I go, um, he is engaged in a level of spiritual

01:15:12.860 warfare that is so immense that most of us wouldn't understand it.

01:15:18.040 And we get to see the ways in which he falls on his face constantly.

01:15:22.180 It's like King Solomon level.

01:15:23.740 Like you, you wouldn't understand unless you're that, that dude.

01:15:26.700 I, I dude, I think that's a great way of putting it.

01:15:29.220 And, um, and I do, uh, I like him a lot and I just hope sometimes it's, it's to the extent

01:15:35.300 where I even kind of feel bad and that's really gay to feel bad for like a celebrity that you

01:15:40.100 don't know, but it's just like, well, you know, his, his, um, his role in like trying

01:15:47.900 to shoehorn Jesus Christ into pop culture, it was really like an uphill battle, you know,

01:15:53.400 even, even just to do Jesus walks back in the day was so profound, um, because nobody

01:15:57.920 from his era of hip hop was doing anything of the sorts.

01:16:00.960 And, and ever since then, you could just see this battle taking place.

01:16:04.480 And I, I often look at the things that he has done in the public eye and the level of

01:16:09.300 ridicule that he's gotten rightfully so in many cases and go, yeah, that's when you

01:16:14.500 are engaged in spiritual warfare, when you are on fire for Christ, that pendulum is going

01:16:19.480 to swing.

01:16:20.200 It's going to slam against the walls back and forth.

01:16:22.660 And so I think that that's what we're watching when it comes to him.

01:16:24.780 But I think he also married into, um, like a witch coven.

01:16:29.280 Exactly.

01:16:29.880 Yeah.

01:16:30.020 I was going to say, like, I think people who are wanting to, you know, get into entertainment,

01:16:34.780 this kind of stuff, they don't know how crazy and kind of controlled at the top it is

01:16:40.500 and this sort of networks.

01:16:41.460 And then when they get into it, they're like, Whoa, you know, this is real.

01:16:45.400 Yeah.

01:16:45.800 And then they have to worry like, well, if I come out, nobody's going to believe me.

01:16:49.580 They're just gonna think I'm a crazy celebrity.

01:16:51.080 Right.

01:16:52.120 But I, I think that, yeah, I think at the top, like those celebrity networks are controlled

01:16:58.600 their cults and, you know, you're threatened if you leave and they will try to ruin you

01:17:03.220 in any way if you try to come out.

01:17:04.980 So no, I think he's, he was very heroic for doing a lot of what he did.

01:17:08.740 Um, I wish he had kind of stuck to a little more grounded approach rather than kind of

01:17:14.060 like, like, I mean, I, I think the trolling, the antics were funny, but then it kind of

01:17:19.500 undermines the positives that could have been done there.

01:17:23.020 So, but yeah, I totally agree.

01:17:24.460 Like, I think, I think the same thing with Britney Spears.

01:17:26.460 Like if you look in her history, um, you know, her parents were kind of promoting her career.

01:17:31.520 Uh, a lot of these people are, I don't know about her case, but like Disney kids, they're

01:17:38.020 like pent out as kids to the entertainment industry.

01:17:40.940 So they're kind of mind controlled from a young age.

01:17:44.020 So, and then they kind of thing recently about, um, Justin Bieber were like, I think it's

01:17:49.100 fun to make fun of Justin Bieber.

01:17:50.380 But honestly, if you knew what that kid had been through, if the rumors are true, uh, you

01:17:55.300 would be mortified, uh, that, especially as a child, his, his mother is, well, they're

01:18:00.840 like, they're like products.

01:18:02.200 Like the parents sometimes like take their product, take it to market, temp it out and

01:18:07.600 then get the money.

01:18:08.780 And it's like, then these people are ruined, but the parents made, you know, 10, 20, 30,

01:18:14.500 $50 million.

01:18:15.320 Right.

01:18:15.980 Yeah.

01:18:16.400 Yeah.

01:18:16.740 I w I kind of wanted to go back to this kind of Westing because, uh, we were, we were

01:18:20.660 talking on a previous episode about that album specifically.

01:18:23.400 And I put it on again and I feel like I'm a musician and I also feel like I have a good

01:18:27.960 sense of discernment when it comes to these, like these guys.

01:18:30.840 And so there's something that just like rings true when you listen to that album.

01:18:35.160 I'm like, he's actually, uh, he, he means what he's talking about.

01:18:38.940 This is not, uh, a Christian, like, you know, I used to play in the church and there's a lot

01:18:43.280 of Christian songs that you go and you, you play in front of the congregation.

01:18:46.160 I'm like, this is just bullshit fluff.

01:18:48.740 Like they, you know, they've taken a scripture, they whittled it down, something stupid, put four

01:18:52.380 chords over it, but this music was a little bit different.

01:18:55.140 And, uh, I forget who it was.

01:18:56.860 They brought to our attention, the frequency, like the Hertz list of each song.

01:19:01.080 And they're all specific.

01:19:02.800 None of them are 440, which is the standard tuning for music.

01:19:06.020 They're all like all 11 songs have slightly different Hertz from like 528, 444, some of

01:19:11.300 them.

01:19:11.560 And I'm just like, man, what is it?

01:19:13.120 Like, what is this guy getting at?

01:19:15.100 Like, what is he doing?

01:19:16.280 There's some kind of underlying thing.

01:19:17.800 It, it, the album seems like a cry for help.

01:19:20.740 Yeah.

01:19:21.480 And it was, I was just going to say, it's one of my favorite albums.

01:19:24.780 I was, I was in the gym this morning, listening to, uh, Selah and I, I damn near like I was

01:19:29.780 on the, the, the, the pulley sort of system for doing Rose and I damn near ripped the thing

01:19:35.880 out of the wall.

01:19:36.400 Like it's, it's crazy what music can do to you as far as getting you hyped up.

01:19:39.220 But, um, yeah, I love that album.

01:19:42.500 I'm glad that that's part of his, his body of work.

01:19:44.880 And then, and then what, he comes out and he's like, I'm going to start a porn company.

01:19:48.400 I don't think he ever started the porn company, but, um, you know, I, I just don't think you

01:19:52.760 could imagine like what the hell that guy's going through.

01:19:54.920 Also is a coven of witches that has his daughter.

01:19:57.700 So, you know, very cool.

01:19:59.820 Also, you know, when he was talking about, you know, Pasternak and all that kind of stuff,

01:20:05.620 there were similar, uh, stories about Brittany's case where like they'll drug these people.

01:20:11.880 So, I mean, you don't know if they're getting slipped drugs, you know what I mean?

01:20:16.040 Like, it's a lot of people that don't even think that it's really her, but I know that

01:20:19.160 I watched a documentary on her not long ago.

01:20:22.440 And, um, one of the things that it did was it clarified her contention with the paparazzi.

01:20:27.220 And once you see that in the documentary, you're like, Oh my God, of course, of course,

01:20:31.400 it's disgusting to be hunted and hounded by these, these people that are treating you

01:20:36.880 like a product and they're screaming at you and you can't have a moment's peace.

01:20:39.880 You can't go to a restaurant, you know, you think about Kanye and his, his Michael

01:20:43.300 Jackson because of that too.

01:20:44.520 Michael Jackson.

01:20:45.200 Yeah.

01:20:45.360 Michael Jackson thought that he thought the paparazzi was doing MK ultra mind controlling

01:20:49.360 him with the flashing of the lights.

01:20:50.920 And you know what?

01:20:51.420 He might, he might've been right, dude.

01:20:52.660 He might've been right.

01:20:53.240 Yeah.

01:20:53.740 Yeah.

01:20:53.900 I interviewed a famous paparazzi paparazzo one time and, uh, you know, he was telling

01:20:59.540 a lot of stories about how more or less they kind of operate sort of like intelligence

01:21:06.280 operatives.

01:21:06.820 And some of them I'm sure in history have been, in fact, if you, if you go into the

01:21:11.100 history of tabloids, the, the rise of tabloids are almost always, whether in the UK or the

01:21:15.640 U S they're actually connected to intelligence people.

01:21:17.540 I think the, I think the inquiry was, was started by like a former CIA guy.

01:21:21.600 So tabloids actually also have like a, uh, origin in intelligence.

01:21:26.320 And I wouldn't be surprised if it's, you know, there's not the overlap you're talking

01:21:31.500 about.

01:21:31.760 Well, that's funny.

01:21:32.580 Cause it's like, what if we took the invasive, you know, invasion of like your, your privacy

01:21:37.480 and the ability to track you down and know where you are at all times.

01:21:41.000 What if we turned that into like a public display that was accepted by the general public?

01:21:44.700 And you're like, wow, that's cause I, it's not lost on me that a spook would make a great,

01:21:49.360 um, paparazzi.

01:21:50.620 You know, they'd always know where you are.

01:21:52.180 They'd always know where to find you.

01:21:53.580 Exactly.

01:21:54.400 That's a, that's a wild concept, but you know, on this, on this point, one, one point real

01:21:59.500 quick.

01:22:00.040 Uh, did you guys ever watch black mirror?

01:22:02.340 Yeah.

01:22:02.720 Yeah.

01:22:03.020 Weird.

01:22:03.860 Did you see the one?

01:22:05.320 Um, I don't really like the later seasons cause they're more, the one with like Miley Cyrus.

01:22:10.560 Yes.

01:22:11.340 Yeah.

01:22:11.580 That one, that was good because she's a pop star who's basically handled and controlled and

01:22:17.040 like, she's like her energy and her creativity is sapped and then they create this like AI

01:22:23.000 version of her.

01:22:24.100 It was a weird moment cause it was like Miley getting to say it, but it was like, what a

01:22:29.740 great work of fiction.

01:22:31.360 Well, and it parallels very closely to the story of Brittany too.

01:22:35.440 Brittany is, is horrifying.

01:22:36.560 Cause if you watch that documentary, like you would be hard pressed not to like that kid.

01:22:42.980 Brittany Spears as a kid is charismatic.

01:22:45.880 She's sweet as can be.

01:22:48.520 Um, she's so kind, overtly kind to everybody.

01:22:52.120 And then, you know, fast forward and she's swinging butcher's knives on whatever it is,

01:22:57.080 TikTok.

01:22:57.460 And you're like, yeah, they, they destroyed her.

01:23:00.180 Also, there's a lot of weird stuff.

01:23:01.680 Looks like, um, face tracking, AI face tracking that occasionally something will happen.

01:23:07.220 And the CG face won't tether to whoever's got the body.

01:23:11.420 Maybe not even hers.

01:23:12.300 Is that what you're saying?

01:23:12.560 Yeah.

01:23:12.960 Yeah.

01:23:13.080 And I've seen some videos where I go like, yeah, it certainly does look like, but that's

01:23:16.620 what it didn't track properly.

01:23:17.800 And it was somebody else's face, but who the hell knows?

01:23:19.940 That's what Pastor Neck told, told Kanye.

01:23:21.880 And it's not like, maybe he wasn't being hyperbolic.

01:23:24.480 He didn't just say like, we're going to drug you.

01:23:26.720 He was like, we're going to like take you away and you'll never see your kids again.

01:23:30.840 And, but we see Kanye, he's still there, but like, dude, what, what happened?

01:23:36.080 Is it, is it him?

01:23:37.120 You don't believe in clones.

01:23:38.160 Maybe it's, I had no idea.

01:23:39.880 Well, he said something interesting and cryptic.

01:23:42.300 He said at one point in an interview, he's like, if you see me go away and come back,

01:23:45.380 it's not me.

01:23:46.620 And maybe he, he could mean that in a, in a psychological sense, like they would have

01:23:50.620 drugged me into oblivion.

01:23:52.020 It won't be me.

01:23:52.760 It'll be a husk.

01:23:53.780 And when he reappeared, he did look discernibly different.

01:23:57.840 And there are people who, you know, claim if you're on SSRIs and such, you tend to gain

01:24:01.780 weight and things of that nature.

01:24:03.120 So, um, we could have been seeing, yeah, the, the physical ramifications of being drugged

01:24:07.800 into oblivion and then being led out into public as kind of this shell of a person who, by

01:24:11.680 the way, has compromised on all his morals.

01:24:13.420 He's walking around with his wife out, she's wearing a see-through glad bag and her tits

01:24:18.420 are out and he's talking about making a porn company, you know?

01:24:21.400 So, uh, whatever they do to those people, I don't think that we can understand it at

01:24:26.020 all.

01:24:26.300 And, and to the Dan Bilzerians of the world, if you're getting on stage and you're talking

01:24:30.120 about the Jews and you're talking about, uh, doing mushrooms, the level of control that

01:24:35.500 they could execute over somebody that they deem influential is not to be, uh, underestimated.

01:24:43.420 All you got to do is go to Dan Bilzeri and say, Hey, like that nice life that you have

01:24:48.460 and all that money.

01:24:49.900 Um, remember that time you were at a party and you did this questionable thing, run this

01:24:54.420 narrative for us and you won't have to worry about those things at all.

01:24:57.380 And that's it.

01:24:58.060 You get on the thing and you go, it's the Jews, by the way, do mushrooms.

01:25:01.420 And that's it.

01:25:02.120 Your job is done.

01:25:02.900 You know?

01:25:03.500 So as fun as it is to dunk on these people, I do think that, um, it takes a wild individual

01:25:11.660 to disobey them.

01:25:13.280 And I would, uh, venture to believe that the ones who do probably are dead.

01:25:18.780 You know what I mean?

01:25:19.600 Like, it's like maybe Robin Williams stood up against them in one way or another.

01:25:23.780 Well, he's dead.

01:25:24.260 You know what I mean?

01:25:24.660 It's like, take your pick Chester Bennington.

01:25:26.540 Maybe Chester had something to do with this.

01:25:28.340 Maybe he was Podesta's kid.

01:25:29.600 Maybe he did have planned.

01:25:30.660 Well, he's dead.

01:25:31.760 You know, what's the guy from Soundgarden?

01:25:33.540 Well, he's dead.

01:25:34.420 You know what I mean?

01:25:35.000 So I'm going to keep dunking on them, but I'll remember that.

01:25:39.640 Uh, I'll, I'll keep that as a side.

01:25:41.880 David, we've kind of like, we're coming to an end here in the episode.

01:25:44.880 I don't want to, I want to respect your time, Jay, but so we've gone from, uh, aliens

01:25:48.860 to celebrities to movies, Hollywood, all this stuff.

01:25:53.420 Um, how, and it's all, it's all related.

01:25:56.940 It's all like a through line and it kind of leads back to itself.

01:26:00.320 I do have a question top, and this might be where you're going.

01:26:03.840 Um, but what I wanted to ask Jay is what is going to be your thought process?

01:26:10.920 What does Jay Dyer think if all of a sudden the news turns on and they go highly advanced

01:26:18.040 space brethren here to stop us from mutually assured destruction here to stop us from our

01:26:25.860 nuclear escapades here to make peace amongst the world and the world religions are falling

01:26:32.180 away.

01:26:32.560 How does Jay Dyer place this on his, not just that, what does it look like for the

01:26:38.300 people that are watching?

01:26:39.500 It could be preaching to the choir, but like in your opinion, what does that look like?

01:26:43.620 Where do you put it?

01:26:45.120 And how do we deal with it?

01:26:47.480 Cause it's all pointed at, at Jesus Christ, the return of Jesus Christ and either thwarting

01:26:52.440 that or confusing people when that happens.

01:26:54.480 So what are your thoughts on that?

01:26:57.580 Yeah.

01:26:57.800 I mean, I would, my first thought would be this, they're running the, uh, alien fake

01:27:03.560 alien invasion scenario.

01:27:05.540 That's what they've chosen for the global world religion.

01:27:08.320 They're going to push this as a way to unify the religions.

01:27:11.040 And when I mentioned a close encounters by Spielberg, there's actually a world, I mean, a world

01:27:17.960 religion develops.

01:27:18.860 Basically you see Hindus and all the world religions kind of come together because everybody realizes

01:27:23.800 and the Hindus at weird, oddly enough, are even chanting like the name of God because

01:27:30.080 they think the aliens are the gods, the God.

01:27:34.360 And so even in the film, it's already kind of hinting at, well, we only have a world religion

01:27:39.400 when we get the alien arrival.

01:27:41.540 Also, I think that if that were to occur, people would begin to think that, oh, like the

01:27:48.480 movies were telling us they were like preparing us.

01:27:51.080 So the people will look back at Arthur C.

01:27:53.640 Clark as a prophet.

01:27:55.880 Right.

01:27:56.240 And so they'll start to think that, oh, Crowley and Arthur C.

01:27:59.260 Clark, they were, they were like preparing us, man.

01:28:01.500 They were like the prophets of a new religion.

01:28:03.420 You know what I mean?

01:28:03.800 Like they'll see these fiction works as like new, perhaps prophetic scriptural works.

01:28:09.400 Proofs.

01:28:10.400 Exactly.

01:28:11.120 And then you'll get, so basically a self-fulfilling prophecy that will be able to say like, we

01:28:15.180 were, we were prophets.

01:28:16.340 We told you.

01:28:17.040 So here's a new religion.

01:28:18.280 They'll probably tie it in with AI.

01:28:20.760 Like Noe Yval Harari was saying that we'll get a new scripture written by the AI.

01:28:26.880 Maybe AI pushes the alien narrative.

01:28:29.560 People begin to believe the AI also.

01:28:31.880 So that's where my thought process would go.

01:28:35.220 And then I would think maybe they've got a, I don't know how they would enforce all of

01:28:39.520 it yet, but if enough people believe it, then maybe they would get people like turning on

01:28:45.060 other people through, you know, you're not with the space brothers.

01:28:48.480 So you're part of the, you know, maybe the space brothers tell us that all the people that

01:28:52.160 don't go along or like, you know, some other seated race that needs to be cleansed.

01:28:57.000 You know what I mean?

01:28:57.440 Like, who knows?

01:28:58.140 Yeah, it, um, I mean, what I'm optimistic about is that there are people like you in

01:29:06.780 the space, uh, the conversation that we just had, there's a lot of people in this, um,

01:29:12.220 alternative media sort of conspiracy realm who have seen this coming for a long time.

01:29:17.840 I would hope that we've rung enough alarm bells to prepare people, um, to the degree that

01:29:25.380 we can, but I'm reminded of this line from Penny dreadful is a great series.

01:29:31.880 And one of the main characters takes another and introduces him to a den of vampires and

01:29:40.640 the character he introduces had no familiarity with that sort of a situation.

01:29:45.020 So the only forewarning that he gave him was no matter what you see, do not be amazed.

01:29:51.180 And I don't think that there's any limitations you can put on human beings proclivity to be

01:29:58.020 amazed and their, their critical thinking.

01:30:03.080 Yeah, exactly.

01:30:04.460 Yeah.

01:30:04.800 Exactly.

01:30:06.500 As he was saying, you were saying like these, these, uh, you know, um, these forms of media

01:30:11.040 and movies being the proofs.

01:30:13.280 I'm just, I was just thinking about people, how they look at Marvel and almost live their

01:30:17.240 life, it's, it's, it's sad.

01:30:21.540 It's, it would be like a self confirming.

01:30:23.380 Like, uh, I was right all along.

01:30:25.620 I really am a superhero.

01:30:26.760 The aliens are going to help us.

01:30:27.900 Right.

01:30:28.460 Yeah.

01:30:28.720 Now that he's going to tell his wife to stop bitching at him every time he wears his Marvel

01:30:32.920 t-shirt out in public, this is the new God.

01:30:36.780 It's a new God.

01:30:37.560 Exactly.

01:30:38.020 Look, Thor was real.

01:30:39.300 He was, he was a, uh, what do you call them?

01:30:41.660 The tall whites.

01:30:42.220 He was a Nordic.

01:30:43.160 Yeah.

01:30:43.460 You know, it's, it's going to be hard, man, but, um, maybe nothing will happen.

01:30:50.020 Maybe it'll be the battle of LA.

01:30:52.280 Maybe it'll be, you know, the 1940s all over again.

01:30:55.400 We'll get pump faked and they'll decide that they're not ready to roll it out yet.

01:31:00.680 But yeah, I mean, like a lot of people are not believing the establishment, you know what

01:31:06.480 I mean?

01:31:07.080 So I don't know the exact percentages.

01:31:09.420 I have no idea.

01:31:09.900 I'm sure the NSA knows like what the real, what the real, but I mean, like, I don't

01:31:14.200 think a lot of people would believe it at the same time either.

01:31:17.080 Well, here's the thing that my, my mom, um, she called me the other day cause she knows

01:31:22.320 that her son is unhinged and she knows that, um, I'll have some opinion one way or another.

01:31:28.120 And she goes, yeah, the girls at work are talking about how it's in, it's going to be

01:31:33.800 a fake alien invasion, but it's not real.

01:31:35.960 And, and to not fall for that.

01:31:37.500 And I go, whenever the general public starts to catch on to something that I'm privy to,

01:31:43.140 I'm forced to examine my own ideas and wonder whether or not they're retarded.

01:31:47.240 And I, I did realize that if you think they're not real and then they show you something that

01:31:55.600 you don't have the ability to explain to yourself or to rationalize, that's going to be a big

01:32:01.440 problem for you.

01:32:02.460 So I can't help, but wonder if the general public saying that they're not real and they're

01:32:07.380 going to psyop us, uh, they're being primed for that in a way.

01:32:11.240 So when they roll out some, maybe it's a biomechanical entity.

01:32:15.100 That's the next thing I was going to say is that if they were going to roll this narrative,

01:32:19.280 they would have to do something spectacular.

01:32:21.740 Yeah, exactly.

01:32:23.500 And that, that'll, that'll throw a lot of people for a loop.

01:32:25.860 But if you're paying attention, you don't have to freak out, uh, to me, the drones that

01:32:32.320 we've been seeing, like to me, they look pretty obviously like human terrestrial drones.

01:32:37.880 So, I mean, are you guys seeing a lot of people who think that it is real aliens or what do

01:32:42.840 you, what do you guys think?

01:32:44.000 Well, so because of this guy's predictions, we were looking out for some sort of an aerial

01:32:50.800 phenomenon and ended up catching onto the drone situation.

01:32:53.480 Now, predominantly it is like nuts and bolts, you know, uh, strange, strange technology.

01:32:59.220 Admittedly, they can go into the water.

01:33:00.700 They can come out to the size of SUVs.

01:33:02.380 In some cases, um, they seemingly don't dock anywhere in charge or land.

01:33:08.040 They just, they're up there for hours.

01:33:09.680 Uh, and then you get this really confusing narrative where the state level is like, what

01:33:13.180 the hell are they?

01:33:14.340 Yeah.

01:33:14.560 And then the federal level is like, either they don't exist and it's mass hysteria or they

01:33:18.400 do exist, but it's not ours and it's not a foreign bodies.

01:33:20.520 And it's like, okay, do what you will with that.

01:33:22.880 There is always going to be an element of real UFOs.

01:33:28.020 And what I mean by that is even without a drone incursion, you will find strange videos

01:33:32.460 on the internet of things that don't make any sense.

01:33:34.600 And I admit, like, I look at them and I go, they don't make any sense.

01:33:36.820 Top and I watched a video that looked like a smoky jellyfish, a black smoky jellyfish

01:33:41.420 with smoky tendrils.

01:33:42.740 And it was pulsing with electricity would have been an anomaly had it not been for the fact

01:33:47.880 that somebody else caught it, caught it at a second angle.

01:33:50.260 It's on like the West Hyde highway and two people, two people videotaped it.

01:33:53.780 So I'm like, okay, two different angles, same thing.

01:33:56.560 Uh, this stuff is happening, but it's happening in conjunction with the drone.

01:33:59.860 So where do we put them?

01:34:01.380 I'm not, I'm not quite sure, but if you're going to go on this prediction that this dude

01:34:05.020 made, it's like, uh, we're going to see some sort of melee in the skies and we're very

01:34:09.980 close to shooting these things down.

01:34:11.680 And I think, uh, Jersey or so, like somebody is giving the order, maybe in the white house,

01:34:15.520 they're like, yo, we're going to start shooting them down.

01:34:17.340 So there's, there's your, uh, manifestation of that.

01:34:21.120 Yeah.

01:34:21.300 Yeah.

01:34:21.600 But what comes after that is more important.

01:34:23.900 And the prediction that web bots giving is the sci-fi world.

01:34:27.040 So like great increase in technology contact, uh, revive contact with alien entities, revival

01:34:33.860 of ancient languages, shit like that.

01:34:35.960 And I'm like, again, I don't know where to put this, but Hey, this guy's been correct

01:34:41.020 here and he's been correct also in the past with like the 08 crash, 9, 11, things like

01:34:45.240 that, predicting earthquakes in different spots.

01:34:47.720 Um, so yeah, I don't know.

01:34:49.680 I just, I like my antennas are up and I'm like, I'm basically playing defense.

01:34:53.160 I'm ready to move left to right, depending on which way this thing goes, but I'm, I'm

01:34:56.700 looking intently at it because I don't want to be deceived.

01:34:59.360 We're going to be, I always say this to myself.

01:35:02.220 It's like, I watched like the people that I'm like coming up with in this weird libertarian

01:35:06.920 conspiracy space.

01:35:07.900 And you watch them fall off, some fell off at COVID.

01:35:10.040 And it's like, all right, you got caught by that.

01:35:11.460 And some fell off by Trump.

01:35:12.500 And I was like, Oh, you got, you got fooled by this like weird sigh up here or there.

01:35:15.840 And I feel like I haven't been fooled yet, but I'm ready.

01:35:18.980 Like I'm, it's, you know, the more, the more you do something, the percentages say that

01:35:27.500 you will eventually, like, if you're going to ride a skateboard percentages say you're

01:35:31.100 going to fall off.

01:35:31.540 Eventually you're not going to be a thousand percent.

01:35:33.100 So I am ready for this deception.

01:35:36.500 And I'm, I guess I'm a little paranoid about falling for it, but I'm, I'm just kind of

01:35:40.440 probing all areas and making sure that I have my eyes dotted, my T's crossed and shit like

01:35:44.960 that.

01:35:45.140 So that that's where I'm at with the drones, I guess.

01:35:47.620 And that's why we wanted to talk to you too, because I think a lot of people are in that

01:35:50.320 space.

01:35:50.640 And it's like, we need, um, evidence-based arguments as to the nature of these things.

01:35:58.500 And if we can start there and have that conversation, we're not going to have all the answers, but

01:36:04.140 if we address them, I think a lot of people are making the mistake of ignoring these sorts

01:36:08.740 of topics.

01:36:09.180 And like I said, if you do that, there will come a time when the government will feed you

01:36:12.660 a narrative and you will be disarmed by it because you haven't done any previous research.

01:36:16.520 So conversations like this one, and, and, you know, hopefully they continue to be had

01:36:21.240 either on this platform or other platforms because people need to, it does seem, does

01:36:25.440 it sound alarmist Jay to say, given the climate of things that people do need to be aware of

01:36:30.880 this?

01:36:32.600 No, I, I, I don't think they've been, uh, making all these movies and pushing all this

01:36:37.680 propaganda for a hundred plus years for nothing.

01:36:40.200 I mean, they're, they're building for some climax.

01:36:42.640 Well, I think we've done about the best we can do here.

01:36:47.320 Um, Jay, I really appreciate your time.

01:36:49.480 And, uh, and I think this is great because I said it somewhere around the midpoint of

01:36:53.120 this episode.

01:36:53.560 If you're hearing all these things and you can't see it, uh, then I don't know what

01:36:57.140 to tell you because the, the body of evidence that we've laid out for them doing this over,

01:37:03.120 like you said, about a hundred years is, is pretty profound.

01:37:06.820 In fact, it almost makes you go, how the hell do they think they can pull this off after

01:37:10.300 doing all this so openly for all this time?

01:37:13.080 Um, we'll see, but Jay, thank you for your time, brother.

01:37:16.480 And please let everybody know one last time where they can find you and support your work.

01:37:21.540 Yeah.

01:37:21.940 You can go to jaysanalysis.com.

01:37:23.500 Uh, that's my website.

01:37:24.200 And if you, uh, get to see the shop there, don't get the book from Amazon.

01:37:27.920 Cause that just gives Jeff Bezos money.

01:37:29.720 But you go to my website shop, you can get signed copies of Esoteric Hollywood one and

01:37:33.860 two, where in both books, I actually take on the, uh, alien deception narrative, uh, in

01:37:39.900 several chapters in both books.

01:37:41.120 So you can get signed copies of that.

01:37:43.440 And, uh, yeah, you can find me at YouTube, Twitter, all the different places that, uh,

01:37:48.160 everybody else is on.

01:37:49.180 So, yeah.

01:37:51.440 The fourth hour of Alex Jones every Friday.

01:37:53.700 Oh yeah.

01:37:54.220 That's, that's awesome.

01:37:55.100 Do you get to talk to Alex Jones or is it just like you're running the show and he's doing

01:37:59.040 something else?

01:38:00.640 Um, I would say about half the times he's kind of there saying, uh, here, Hey, blah, blah,

01:38:06.440 blah, blah, blah.

01:38:06.720 But, um, I mean, he, he never tells me who to have on or who to talk about, but he, we,

01:38:13.400 we talk, I don't know, maybe once every month or so.

01:38:16.900 You ever get to hug him?

01:38:18.660 You don't get to touch him.

01:38:20.180 You ever get to hug him?

01:38:21.120 Dude, I want to hug him.

01:38:21.620 I think I did hug him one time.

01:38:22.880 I got a picture over there where we're all together.

01:38:24.840 So I think, I think I got a hug one time.

01:38:26.800 I'm not a big drinker, but on my to-do list before I die is, uh, drink excessively and hug

01:38:32.680 Alex Jones.

01:38:33.300 That would be, that would be awesome.

01:38:35.260 Well, he took us out when we were in Austin, uh, like a year or two ago, he took us out

01:38:39.120 to a nice Chinese restaurant and, uh, he basically ordered like whatever he saw anybody else having.

01:38:44.860 So it was like, what's that over there?

01:38:46.240 Give me that.

01:38:46.500 Give me one of them.

01:38:47.400 What's that?

01:38:48.220 Give me one of them.

01:38:48.960 I want to talk to you.

01:38:49.500 Give me that.

01:38:50.460 So it was like, he had like, he's like a beverage goblin, goblin like me.

01:38:53.240 Like he, I've got like one, two, I've got like three drinks over here.

01:38:56.500 Alex had like five spread out.

01:38:58.140 It was really cool.

01:38:58.540 Yeah, dude.

01:38:59.380 This is because it's like, you know, the movie signs where like I'm expecting an alien.

01:39:03.980 I was going to ask you about signs.

01:39:05.480 I forgot about signs.

01:39:07.020 Yeah.

01:39:07.340 That was a great one.

01:39:08.200 Yeah.

01:39:08.320 Anyway, whatever.

01:39:09.060 No more Alex Jones worship.

01:39:10.340 We, everyone loves them, but that's, that's freaking cool.

01:39:12.360 It's cool that you came here to spend time with us.

01:39:13.880 It's cool that you gave us any of the time that you have in general, because I mean,

01:39:18.700 we started off kind of rocky, but whatever.

01:39:21.620 I'm surprised.

01:39:22.160 I'm surprised.

01:39:22.800 He was like, I can't believe after he talked to us the first time, he was like, those guys

01:39:25.100 are fucking retarded.

01:39:25.860 And then to, to, I think he forgot.

01:39:27.640 I think there's been enough time in between the first episode and this one that he forgot.

01:39:31.300 He's going to be like the prophet Muhammad.

01:39:32.660 You having all those seizures, bro.

01:39:33.880 You keep, you got brain damage.

01:39:35.640 He's painfully reminded right now.

01:39:37.300 He's like, next time I won't answer the call.

01:39:40.440 Thank you, Jay.

01:39:41.200 I really appreciate it.

01:39:42.020 You guys are cool.

01:39:43.300 Top, do we got anything else?

01:39:44.480 That's it, man.

01:39:45.040 Guys, don't forget to obey, submit and comply.

01:39:47.060 And Merry Christmas.

01:39:49.160 But if you're watching this later on, it's already past Christmas.

01:39:52.260 The world may be over, but whatever.

01:39:54.040 Peace out, guys.

01:39:55.360 We'll see you later.

01:39:56.160 The great hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.

01:40:02.180 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

01:40:05.580 If you can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see, you

01:40:11.140 got them.

01:40:11.500 Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's

01:40:18.020 happening.

01:40:18.980 And they have.

01:40:19.800 And they have.

01:40:27.200 They have.

01:40:28.140 We're...

01:40:28.720 We're going to end that up today.

01:40:28.960 We're going to end that short.

01:40:29.680 We're going to end that short.

01:40:30.460 We're going to end that short.

01:40:31.720 We're going to end it.

01:40:40.460 We'll end that short.

Nephilim Death Squad - December 27, 2024

100： A New Alien Religion w⧸ Jay Dyer

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