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00:03:42.900 Joining us today is Bennett of Broadcasting Seeds.

00:03:46.380 Bennett, if you would, for the audience who may not be familiar with you,

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00:03:53.380 So my name is Bennett Tanton.

00:03:55.980 I am the host of Broadcasting Seeds podcast.

00:04:00.680 And you can pretty much find me wherever podcasts are listened to.

00:04:06.640 I'm on all of it, YouTube, Rumble, all of it.

00:04:12.680 And Broadcasting Seeds is just about planting seeds in people's minds to mess them up a little bit.

00:04:20.880 Maybe make them do some research on their own.

00:04:23.980 And it's one of the biggest issues that I have with folks is they always listen to my show.

00:04:30.560 And they're like, well, you didn't tell us enough.

00:04:32.200 And I go, that's kind of the point of the show is for you to expand your mind.

00:04:37.760 So, yeah, that's what Broadcasting Seeds is all about.

00:04:41.720 I like it.

00:04:43.380 Yeah, just planting a little subversive.

00:04:45.880 That's why they call me the father of disinformation.

00:04:47.940 That's what I do.

00:04:48.700 I create little rabbit trails and I let people go off and figure out whatever they need to figure out.

00:04:54.000 Because honestly...

00:04:55.080 Big holes for people to fall into.

00:04:57.100 Exactly.

00:04:57.640 Yeah, twist your ankle into it.

00:04:58.720 That's really all I'm trying to do.

00:04:59.840 But the other holes that are around, they're complete lies.

00:05:03.460 The ones that I tell are half lies.

00:05:05.460 So go ahead, find them, and figure them out yourself.

00:05:09.100 Let me know if it's bullshit.

00:05:10.100 But I like the objective of your show there, man.

00:05:15.020 Absolutely.

00:05:16.820 I mean, it's what it's all about.

00:05:19.380 Because in this country nowadays, just nobody...

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00:05:32.960 There's so much going on.

00:05:34.900 And frankly, it's accelerating.

00:05:36.480 You know, I had a really good conversation the other day with one of you guys' friends, Ed Mabry.

00:05:46.340 He, him and I recorded an episode for Broadcasting Seeds.

00:05:50.300 And man, that dude is scary.

00:05:53.000 Like knowledge.

00:05:54.260 Right?

00:05:55.400 Like terrifying.

00:05:56.200 We did like 30 episodes with...

00:05:58.620 I know, man.

00:05:59.380 I listened to every single one of them.

00:06:01.120 And he is a terrifying individual, the amount of knowledge that he has in his brain.

00:06:06.880 But, you know, these are the people that I want to hang out with because they're the ones that maybe have the answers to what's going on.

00:06:13.940 Or, you know, you're the sum of the five people you spend the most time with.

00:06:17.880 And as we know, I'm half retarded.

00:06:22.280 So I'll head out.

00:06:25.680 I'll surround myself with people like Ed any day of the week.

00:06:29.500 Yeah.

00:06:29.980 Well, we're in a weird time, right?

00:06:31.420 You said it's almost like it's accelerating.

00:06:33.420 Yeah.

00:06:33.740 And I would agree with that.

00:06:34.900 And we're in this time where, like, people are, especially right now, and by right now, I mean within these, like, couple of months since the new year, there's a massive falling away from the official narrative and from the mainstream or legacy media conglomerations.

00:06:52.360 And people are still looking for answers.

00:06:55.160 You know, they're falling away from those, you know, CNNs, Fox News, things like that.

00:06:59.700 And the world is becoming more upside down in so many ways.

00:07:06.200 So people have a lot of questions, and the old guard does not have a lot of answers.

00:07:10.780 And so I feel much to the dismay of the listener, they are being funneled towards people like us.

00:07:17.260 And I don't claim to have any answers.

00:07:20.120 I've got a lot of – I certainly have a lot more questions than I have answers.

00:07:23.400 But one of the things that we set out to talk about with you today is something that comes up in conversation constantly.

00:07:31.580 But in my traditional fashion, I have done no reading on this topic whatsoever.

00:07:39.300 I cannot read.

00:07:40.100 I will not read.

00:07:41.340 But I will reference –

00:07:43.400 He's constantly referencing these books.

00:07:45.240 Constantly.

00:07:46.180 Yeah.

00:07:46.480 No, I – yeah.

00:07:47.940 I hear you.

00:07:49.620 Up until a certain point.

00:07:50.640 He's like – he says it, and I'm like, do I correct him here?

00:07:54.500 He's like, there's actually a book.

00:07:55.920 It's called, like, Little Baron Trump.

00:07:57.900 And what happens is he's the last president.

00:08:00.320 And I'm just like, all right, just let him go.

00:08:01.420 No, that's not what I – let him go.

00:08:02.580 Dan, that's a bastardization of what I say.

00:08:04.680 I say something that at least holds some water.

00:08:07.360 Something about ace.

00:08:07.640 And then I don't talk about it much more beyond that because I know that I have no grounds in reality when it comes to reading this book.

00:08:13.840 I was just on Inverted World live last night with Shane Cashman, and once again, these books came up.

00:08:20.540 These books that we're talking about, these are the Ingersoll Lockwood books.

00:08:24.440 They are – and my knowledge is so limited, I can tell you everything I know about them in the next 45 seconds.

00:08:31.520 Basically, it's a series of books that came out in the late 1800s by a guy named Ingersoll Lockwood.

00:08:36.420 And there's a lot of strange, uncanny coincidences between the narrative in the book and the characters in the book and how they connect to Donald Trump and his own son, Baron Trump, and also the Trump administration, his presidency.

00:08:50.560 It's a very strange series of books, and I don't know where to place them because as a conspiracy theorist, I get excited when I see that.

00:09:00.860 It feels like you found a really cool rabbit trail to go down.

00:09:05.480 And then the more you look at it, I swear I've come to the conclusion – not the conclusion, but after all these years, because they really kind of hit the mainstream, like 2017, 2018, 2019, it was really big.

00:09:18.280 And then from then on, it started to really enter the conversation.

00:09:23.040 I don't even know if they're real, dude.

00:09:24.780 I don't know what to make of them, so I'm excited to have this conversation.

00:09:28.420 Why don't we start, Bennett, with like, how do these things get on your radar?

00:09:31.900 So, I was literally doing research on the Antichrist.

00:09:41.740 As one does.

00:09:43.680 Right, exactly, right.

00:09:44.980 Because, you know, that's what everybody does, right?

00:09:48.180 So, I'm sitting here doing the research on, like, trying to say, you know, are we in the end times?

00:09:56.460 Because, you know, it's such a simple question, right?

00:10:00.780 So, at the end of the day, I was doing this research, and, you know, a lot of people had floated this idea that Donald Trump is or was the Antichrist, right?

00:10:12.980 Well, I don't know about all that, but at the end of the day, I tripped and fell into these books, right?

00:10:22.100 And that's how I found them, literally.

00:10:25.440 Well, first, it started with the one, which was about, because the name Baron Trump popped up, but...

00:10:33.980 It's in the title, right?

00:10:34.900 It is...

00:10:35.700 Yeah.

00:10:35.940 I'm going to try it.

00:10:36.740 I'm going to take a crack at it.

00:10:37.740 It's the Marvelous Underground Adventures of Little Baron Trump.

00:10:41.260 Is that it?

00:10:41.640 So, that's one of them, but it's still not quite right, but...

00:10:47.700 Dude, I felt so confident in saying that.

00:10:50.000 The first one written, or published, I should say, is The Travels and Adventures of Little Baron Trump and his wonderful dog, Bulger.

00:11:01.400 So, that was published in 1890, okay?

00:11:04.880 And, I mean, that one wouldn't really...

00:11:08.180 So, here's the other thing.

00:11:09.500 And you brought up the fact that you've never read them.

00:11:12.280 Correct.

00:11:12.800 What about you?

00:11:13.240 Which is also consistent with all books that I own, but go on.

00:11:16.780 Yeah, I mean, I've read the first one, but I have all three here in this compendium, so I haven't read...

00:11:22.400 Yeah, yeah.

00:11:22.440 So, that's...

00:11:22.960 And that's a great version.

00:11:24.820 See, here's part of the issue, though, that I found.

00:11:27.560 Some of the late, like, the republished books are not exactly the same.

00:11:35.120 So, that might be a whole nother rabbit trail to go down.

00:11:38.900 There's some...

00:11:39.860 And there's some stuff published online that it doesn't give you...

00:11:45.620 It doesn't give you the whole...

00:11:47.800 You know, it's like the translation of every book out there, right?

00:11:50.820 Some of the things don't jive.

00:11:53.900 So, either way, you've got the...

00:11:56.200 That's the first book.

00:11:58.200 And then another book on Barron Trump, which is the...

00:12:05.480 Barron Trump's Marvelous Underground Journey.

00:12:08.080 Journey.

00:12:08.440 Which is really the one that gets a little wild, right?

00:12:11.640 Now, if the Trumps had a dog named Bulger, that would really be scary, right?

00:12:19.540 But they don't.

00:12:20.900 I was thinking about that when you mentioned.

00:12:22.340 I was like, I don't think that I've ever heard anything about the connection between that dog.

00:12:25.900 So, 1893 is when that one was published.

00:12:28.700 And now that one follows Barron on, you know, who...

00:12:34.300 Barron Trump is a wealthy, young aristocrat.

00:12:39.140 Period.

00:12:39.620 Now, if you really dig into it, because I'm not trying to smash anything, but I have to show you both sides of this.

00:12:47.500 Barron is spelt differently than Barron's name.

00:12:50.180 Now, that doesn't mean anything necessarily on the surface, but Barron is actually a title, right?

00:12:56.620 Right.

00:12:58.340 And Barron Trump's name is spelled with two R's.

00:13:02.720 And now just one.

00:13:03.740 But, again, young aristocrat who, you know, most people draw connections between the character and, you know, the thing with the journey is that he's...

00:13:22.740 I wouldn't say...

00:13:23.960 So, people will say, oh, he's led by his guy, Don, right?

00:13:30.240 And that's true, but not exactly true.

00:13:33.140 He finds a manuscript that's written by this guy, Don.

00:13:38.440 But Don's full name is...

00:13:42.160 It's huge, right?

00:13:45.240 And, again, it's Don is kind of like what the Mafia.

00:13:53.300 They call him the Mafia Don, right?

00:13:55.460 In the same way, like, Barron is a title, like a wealthy landowner generation.

00:13:59.060 Correct.

00:13:59.620 Landowner is also a title.

00:14:00.700 But that, who knows, that could just be a way to divert attention, whatever.

00:14:05.440 But either way, so those are the two Barron books.

00:14:10.520 And then you run across the book, 1900, or another title has been called The Last President.

00:14:17.700 Now, I don't know.

00:14:19.020 I've seen it published both ways, and I don't know why.

00:14:22.120 I mean, I understand why they call...

00:14:24.120 Some people would call it The Last President, but it's more hyperbolic, right?

00:14:28.500 Yeah, well, I mean, I'm not really familiar with books, but is that a common thing for them to have?

00:14:35.240 What a great sentence.

00:14:36.720 Put that on his tombstone.

00:14:38.480 Right.

00:14:38.960 To have multiple titles, right?

00:14:41.100 It doesn't make any sense.

00:14:42.920 Yeah, is that a thing that is common?

00:14:44.980 I mean, I've not stumbled upon that.

00:14:47.160 No, there are titles and there are subtitles.

00:14:49.040 But, yeah, this is one where it has been given this name, and then somebody said,

00:14:53.280 No, fuck that name.

00:14:54.120 We're going to give it a different name at some point.

00:14:55.800 Right, so, like, 1900 is just the year that it happened.

00:14:59.160 That it's allegedly set in, right?

00:15:02.000 But it was published in 1896.

00:15:05.800 And that is the book, in my opinion, where there's some...

00:15:09.920 So, yeah, we'll get into greater detail, I guess.

00:15:13.820 But needless to say, you brought up the fact that you had not read them.

00:15:18.600 It's because it's an awful book to read.

00:15:22.140 These are not good books.

00:15:23.200 They are not...

00:15:24.620 Well, not in the modern day.

00:15:27.000 They are absolutely written, and they are products of their time, right?

00:15:33.220 So, like, Victorian-era...

00:15:35.500 Oh, yeah, yeah.

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00:17:10.420 Yeah.

00:17:10.600 So, but...

00:17:11.780 Well, dude, that's why you have 80,000 views on your ship,

00:17:14.320 because you seem like the only guy who's read this book.

00:17:17.360 Right.

00:17:17.800 Nobody else wants to touch you.

00:17:18.920 I mean, there's other videos that have millions of views,

00:17:22.560 but they explain it incorrectly, in my opinion.

00:17:25.560 And I'm not trying to smash people.

00:17:28.020 I'm just saying that at the end of the day,

00:17:31.100 you can tell that they've probably never read the book.

00:17:35.840 I mean, at least listen to it on audiobook.

00:17:38.740 I mean, it's not...

00:17:39.360 But it'll make your ears bleed.

00:17:41.900 It's not...

00:17:43.060 It's hard.

00:17:43.840 It's a hard read, man.

00:17:46.200 And the Barron Trump books are longer.

00:17:50.520 Truthfully, 1900 or The Last President is easier read.

00:17:57.540 It's like a two-hour thing.

00:18:00.060 So, in my constant regurgitation of peripheral knowledge

00:18:06.360 that I have gotten via secondhand information on these books,

00:18:11.000 I've been made aware, and then go out and repeat,

00:18:15.180 the idea that there is a correlation between...

00:18:19.180 I suppose it's Trump's towers on Fifth Avenue in New York City

00:18:25.060 and an address that is given within the books

00:18:27.760 associated with, I guess, the home of...

00:18:30.940 Is it Little Barron Trump?

00:18:33.020 Yeah.

00:18:33.500 It's...

00:18:34.180 I mean, there's not a direct address, though.

00:18:38.280 That's...

00:18:38.740 And that's the rub.

00:18:39.860 I've been going around telling people...

00:18:41.460 Well, because...

00:18:42.520 Maybe I like it.

00:18:42.920 Because everyone says that, right?

00:18:44.980 And that's not the exact truth.

00:18:47.020 They talk about Castle Trump.

00:18:48.960 They do talk about Castle Trump.

00:18:50.760 And that makes you go, oh...

00:18:53.000 The towers, right?

00:18:54.400 Yeah.

00:18:54.780 Yeah.

00:18:56.260 But the correlation is Fifth Avenue.

00:18:59.680 And as we know, you guys are both from the New York City area,

00:19:02.980 correct, originally?

00:19:04.120 Right.

00:19:04.340 But Fifth Avenue is, you know, it's where rich-ass people live.

00:19:08.840 Right.

00:19:09.460 And they're rich-ass people.

00:19:12.120 It's also, in 1900, the book, it's also where the president lived.

00:19:20.560 Right.

00:19:21.060 Oh, that's interesting.

00:19:22.180 So...

00:19:22.940 But they literally...

00:19:24.660 It's like a...

00:19:25.560 It's mentioned in passing...

00:19:28.820 At the beginning of the book, because there's riots after the election.

00:19:34.200 And they're literally pulling in the National Guard and all this stuff.

00:19:38.720 Now, one of the correlations there that nobody talks about is that...

00:19:43.660 So they talk about the governor of New York called up...

00:19:47.160 Or the mayor.

00:19:47.780 It's the governor or the mayor calls up the National Guard to quell these riots.

00:19:53.820 Riots.

00:19:54.860 Well, Ingersoll Lockwood's father was a brigadier general in the New York National Guard.

00:20:03.140 Hmm.

00:20:03.540 Hmm.

00:20:03.920 Back in the early 1800s, right?

00:20:07.880 So Ingersoll Lockwood was born in 1841.

00:20:11.280 But his dad, whose name is Munson Lockwood, he was a brigadier general in the New York National Guard.

00:20:20.600 So, you know, there's just some of these correlations that you can tell he's used life experience or stories maybe that his dad or see his...

00:20:32.260 One of his brother...

00:20:33.300 Or one of his uncles was very good friends with Henry Clay, who is a former Secretary of State, right?

00:20:43.600 I don't know if you guys know who Henry Clay is, but he was a huge politician back in those days.

00:20:49.940 I think he also ran for president like three or four times.

00:20:54.640 And his uncle was a big supporter and friend of Henry Clay.

00:21:02.120 And so Ingersoll Lockwood just grew up in this whole thing.

00:21:07.260 He was also a diplomat before.

00:21:11.760 He was a lawyer, but he was a diplomat, and he was a, what do they call it, a consul?

00:21:20.840 It's like foreign nations.

00:21:22.200 Let me find it.

00:21:22.780 Yeah.

00:21:22.980 So, yeah.

00:21:24.260 Consul to the kingdom of Hanover, which is now part of Germany, appointed by Abraham Lincoln.

00:21:30.500 So, he's basically like an ambassador to what used to be a principality, I think, is what Hanover was in southern Germany.

00:21:40.380 But either way, he lived an interesting life.

00:21:43.740 We don't know a lot about it, or there's not a lot recorded, because he wrote these books, right?

00:21:49.860 And then he ended up marrying a girl, got divorced, and then he like fell off the face of the earth and lived a very reclusive life in Saratoga Springs after that.

00:22:02.060 So, let me ask you this, because these books, you're laying out a lot of historical information about the life and the family of Ingersoll Lockwood.

00:22:16.040 And as you're saying this, I'm letting go of this suspicion that I had.

00:22:22.340 And the suspicion that I had was this entire thing struck me as strange.

00:22:25.240 It's, we don't hear about these books for a very long time, you know, not my entire life until all of a sudden the Trump presidency rolls around and this Ingersoll Lockwood element ties in to this QAnon situation.

00:22:42.780 Well, it seems very, very QAnon, like fabricated, you know, it really does.

00:22:50.060 So, so what I'm, I guess my question to you then, Bennett, is, is, it seems like we should have a healthy amount of skepticism about the nature of these books.

00:23:01.220 But through your research, do you feel more on the side that this is a real figure and these were books that genuinely did come out in the 1800s at the tail end of them and we just didn't hear about them until all of a sudden it was happening in real life?

00:23:15.760 Or is this something else?

00:23:17.120 I mean, my true opinion is absolutely, I think that they're real books.

00:23:21.660 I think that now how the information came about, you know, I, I, I can't, I, I can't say, right.

00:23:29.760 Cause I don't know, but at the end of the day, they're registered in the library of Congress.

00:23:35.920 They also, anyone can read these books for free by going to like project Gutenberg or someplace like that.

00:23:44.600 Like they, at least these three books, they all exist online, but you know, online gets a little hairy, like it could be totally fabricated, but, but you have like old pictures.

00:23:58.260 I mean, some of the first edition, so you also have first edition, uh, books cause I have a feeling not very many people bought these things, but, but you never know.

00:24:11.060 Right.

00:24:12.580 There's first editions on like Etsy or a books or, or some of the, you know, eBay that are selling for thousands of dollars.

00:24:21.820 Now, could they be fabricated and people, you know, that are like, Hey, I'm going to cash in on this.

00:24:27.460 Right.

00:24:28.460 Absolutely.

00:24:29.120 They could be.

00:24:30.440 Um, but I, I've seen, and of course I didn't, uh, there's pictures of his grave and he was buried in.

00:24:41.380 Oh, Ossining, New York.

00:24:45.900 His, the other thing about his father, that's kind of interest.

00:24:49.680 It's just interesting in history aspects is that his father was also the warden of Sing Sing prison for a while.

00:24:57.500 Sing Sing prison.

00:24:58.420 Yeah.

00:24:59.060 Where is that?

00:24:59.880 It's just North of the city in Ossining, New York.

00:25:04.240 It's North of, uh, New York city.

00:25:08.760 Um, but it's see Sing Sing penitentiary.

00:25:12.280 It's actually what it is.

00:25:15.820 I don't know what it is about these things, but I mean, I suppose it is the way that they, they tie into this, this much larger narrative.

00:25:23.120 You know, before the show started, uh, we were talking a little bit about this idea of like Trump's uncle, you know, at MIT, John Trump.

00:25:33.440 Uh, he's commissioned to go and clean up the research and I suppose the lab of Nikola Tesla and then report back in some capacity on his findings to the FBI.

00:25:47.000 And it just seems like over and over again, there is this time travel element.

00:25:53.100 And I, I said it yesterday.

00:25:54.480 It's like nobody has, when, when Obama was the president, there were those who speculated that he was the antichrist and certainly there was conspiracy surrounding him.

00:26:05.840 Right.

00:26:06.060 You got big Mike being one of the conspiracies.

00:26:08.840 You have the birth certificate issue being, uh, another conspiracy surrounding Obama.

00:26:14.720 Um, you know, him being Barry Soto.

00:26:17.100 There's, there's, there is a lot there.

00:26:18.900 Oh, there's a lot, but I don't, I think that the magnitude of conspiracy surrounding Donald Trump dwarfs that significantly, especially in the, the nature of them.

00:26:29.400 So, so what I mean by that is like, you know, hiding your identity, being Barry Soto and, and, and marrying a, a trans dude, whatever those are, you know, pretty profound conspiracies.

00:26:42.340 Being a time traveling antichrist character who has all of this weird lore that from the, from the 1800s, it's like, you can speculate what you want about, uh, Obama.

00:26:57.540 And it basically becomes, he's an asset, an intelligence asset, and he's married to a man.

00:27:03.260 Um, and he's not fit to be the president because he wasn't born here with Donald Trump.

00:27:07.720 It's like, he's a time traveler and he might be the antichrist and, uh, and, and, and I don't, and he's also going to overthrow a deep, dark satanic cabal that eats children.

00:27:20.220 Like that is degrees of severity above the Obama conspiracies.

00:27:25.500 Yeah.

00:27:25.960 It's like on another level.

00:27:27.480 I mean, you just literally, it, it, it's so extreme.

00:27:31.040 It's almost a distraction, right?

00:27:33.200 I, that's how I look at it.

00:27:35.020 That's what it feels like sometimes.

00:27:36.720 Yeah.

00:27:37.780 I mean, the whole John G. Trump, who was Donald Trump's uncle, you know, with the, with the Nikola Tesla.

00:27:46.080 The thing that's weird about that though, is that we know Tesla.

00:27:50.800 We know.

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00:29:20.260 He was a genius, right?

00:29:21.840 Like, and came up with all kinds of amazing...

00:29:25.620 I mean, he was such a genius that they literally suppressed...

00:29:30.860 Some of his stuff, whether it was by, you know, the power with Edison and those types of, you know, figures.

00:29:42.200 Right.

00:29:42.480 There was, like, supposedly a big subversion to favor, like, an Albert Einstein over a Nikola Tesla.

00:29:47.340 Absolutely.

00:29:48.020 And then people speculate as to whether or not that was to deviate us from a much more promising timeline.

00:29:54.260 And, you know, once again, we're getting into timelines.

00:29:56.060 There's, like, a strange quote I don't claim to understand by Nikola Tesla.

00:30:00.860 I think it's like he's sitting under one of his inventions, like these pylons that he had.

00:30:04.420 And he says, from where I'm sitting, I can see the past, the present, and the future.

00:30:08.820 And so there's this constant speculation as to whether or not Nikola Tesla figured out time travel.

00:30:15.080 Not to mention, this is something that I talked about last night and something that I'll bring up here again.

00:30:20.040 And there's a character on X, his – I think he goes by Invisadon or Bifdon or something like that.

00:30:28.360 But one of the ways that he gained popularity is one of my favorite conspiracy theorists, you know,

00:30:35.520 because anytime that somebody catches a breadcrumb trail that is profound and it seems that it developed organic,

00:30:40.780 like they just did a good job of catching all these things.

00:30:42.880 I'm a big fan of that.

00:30:43.620 So this character, Bifdon, or Invisadon, one of the two, he is constantly showing you the ways in which Back to the Future points to –

00:30:54.080 the films Back to the Future point to Donald Trump.

00:30:57.300 So the character Bif was modeled after Donald Trump.

00:30:59.840 Oh, yeah, for sure.

00:31:00.280 Yes.

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00:32:29.740 Into the Donald Trump story.

00:32:33.080 But more importantly, the topic at hand is this massive,

00:32:37.260 the whole theme of the movie is time travel, right?

00:32:39.400 And somehow, Donald Trump has managed to shoehorn his way into that narrative too.

00:32:45.700 And to me, that's way more compelling than this.

00:32:49.400 Once you've gotten into the details of this,

00:32:52.720 that whole Biff back to the future thing is so,

00:32:57.920 it's just more compelling.

00:32:59.240 To me, it's strange.

00:33:00.780 It's strange.

00:33:01.440 There's so much, but I mean, you know,

00:33:03.000 people may have misrepresented, people like myself,

00:33:07.540 the Ingersoll Lockwood books to whatever degree,

00:33:11.460 but it almost doesn't matter when combined with all these other elements,

00:33:16.140 it still continues that theme of time travel.

00:33:19.280 Yeah.

00:33:20.100 Yes, absolutely.

00:33:21.220 And this, I mean, the John Trump,

00:33:24.260 the thing, the biggest thing that came out of the whole John Trump,

00:33:29.340 you know, because after Tesla died in 1943,

00:33:33.280 the government seized all of Tesla's research.

00:33:38.000 Now, the fact that the government seized all of his research is very telling, right?

00:33:45.080 John Trump, who was a MIT professor, but has lots of time,

00:33:50.100 he's a government asset.

00:33:52.460 Let's just call him that.

00:33:53.740 You know, it doesn't mean he was a CIA spy.

00:33:56.280 He's a scientist that works for the government, right?

00:33:59.480 Um, and he was tasked with reviewing Tesla's work.

00:34:05.620 And at the end of the day, um, I mean,

00:34:10.960 Tesla in his own words had claimed to have developed time travel device,

00:34:17.080 you know, um, or at least, uh, the, the theory of it.

00:34:21.940 And he was totally ridiculed for it.

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00:35:53.660 And so the bottom line is around that.

00:35:57.740 Go ahead.

00:35:58.360 I was just going to say,

00:35:58.920 it seemed like you can safely say that.

00:36:01.120 I can't claim that he figured out a way to traverse time.

00:36:05.560 Right.

00:36:05.800 But certainly he claims to have come about a way to perceive time.

00:36:10.640 Absolutely.

00:36:11.600 Correct.

00:36:12.380 Right.

00:36:12.760 And so some theorists believe John Trump inherited Tesla's knowledge

00:36:20.600 that he kept some for himself.

00:36:22.540 I mean,

00:36:22.740 this is where this all gets in.

00:36:24.740 Right.

00:36:25.060 And that the Trump family has had access to future technology since then,

00:36:31.500 since the forties.

00:36:32.820 Right.

00:36:33.200 Do you guys want to hear something?

00:36:35.000 So I'm,

00:36:35.540 I'm still stuck on this weird rabbit hole that you,

00:36:38.960 you have brought.

00:36:39.580 I'm sorry to cut you off.

00:36:40.840 Oh no,

00:36:41.560 you do.

00:36:42.180 This is,

00:36:43.060 this is,

00:36:43.560 this is what we do,

00:36:44.460 man.

00:36:44.780 This is fun stuff.

00:36:45.780 Right.

00:36:46.340 Yeah.

00:36:46.620 Well,

00:36:46.720 this is what like has been the most fun about the show where we're,

00:36:49.460 we're getting information.

00:36:50.820 And then in real time,

00:36:51.880 I'm kind of like putting stuff together.

00:36:53.180 Cause you said something about Ingersoll Lockwood's father being the,

00:36:56.660 the warden at Sing Sing.

00:36:59.940 Is that correct?

00:37:00.840 Yes.

00:37:01.160 Correct.

00:37:01.560 Okay.

00:37:01.740 And yeah,

00:37:02.660 obviously like I thought they shut Sing Sing down,

00:37:04.840 but they were renovating it.

00:37:05.900 They're doing a museum.

00:37:07.640 But Sing Sing is known specifically for their use and overuse of the electric

00:37:12.580 chair.

00:37:13.460 So then I said,

00:37:14.480 were they the,

00:37:14.920 I just asked,

00:37:15.620 were they the first ones to use it?

00:37:17.000 No,

00:37:17.300 they weren't.

00:37:17.700 There's a place in Auburn.

00:37:18.660 That was the first,

00:37:19.260 like a year before Sing Sing was using it,

00:37:21.820 but they were using it like crazy.

00:37:23.000 They were like,

00:37:23.480 this shit is great.

00:37:24.300 It's the best technology we got.

00:37:26.220 Which again,

00:37:27.220 Auburn's another state prison in New York.

00:37:30.580 Right.

00:37:30.860 Yeah.

00:37:31.080 This is like,

00:37:31.920 this has deep ties to it.

00:37:34.700 It just smells like government shit,

00:37:37.220 but here's the experimentation.

00:37:38.860 Yeah.

00:37:39.400 And here's,

00:37:40.120 here's the experimentation.

00:37:41.300 Here's the debate.

00:37:42.540 Thomas Edison and Nikola Tesla were at,

00:37:47.080 at the time we're having a war of currents.

00:37:50.480 Yeah.

00:37:51.040 Well,

00:37:51.240 and you had Westinghouse involved in that too.

00:37:53.460 Just saying,

00:37:54.120 I'm not,

00:37:54.580 they were,

00:37:55.040 they were arguing with each other.

00:37:56.960 What would be the best current to use on this chair,

00:38:00.300 AC or DC?

00:38:02.220 Interesting.

00:38:02.600 And it's just kind of interesting how it's like fucking Nikola Tesla showing up again here with this electric chair that's so prevalent in this jail,

00:38:12.520 which then this guy's father is in charge of.

00:38:15.380 It's like,

00:38:15.600 there's a lot of ties connecting everything,

00:38:17.840 you know?

00:38:18.140 And these are all those little rabbit holes that literally.

00:38:21.020 So I do,

00:38:22.300 I think there's something here maybe,

00:38:23.960 but it's one of those things.

00:38:25.660 Like there's so much again,

00:38:27.520 do we really believe in coincidence at this point?

00:38:30.800 Oh man.

00:38:31.380 I'm so,

00:38:31.860 I'm so beyond that pale.

00:38:33.220 Sometimes what I,

00:38:34.620 what I speculate is.

00:38:36.740 So if Ingersoll Lockwood is a real character,

00:38:40.180 am I then to believe that he is part of a much larger conspiracy where he knows that there's a time traveling president and that he may be the last president and all these people from all these different things that we just talked about that allude to this.

00:38:58.620 Are they all somehow in a larger conspiracy and maybe,

00:39:02.500 and this is,

00:39:03.640 like I said,

00:39:04.000 totally speculative.

00:39:06.120 Maybe it's easier to believe that there is a spiritual influence over these things.

00:39:13.300 So,

00:39:13.500 especially when it comes to art,

00:39:14.720 you have a long history of people channeling spirits or the muses to be inspired for the art that they are working on.

00:39:22.020 Right.

00:39:22.700 The muse part for sure.

00:39:24.320 Like,

00:39:24.840 yes,

00:39:25.360 what is it?

00:39:26.140 What,

00:39:26.360 what's actually talking to you?

00:39:28.000 And well,

00:39:28.960 in Greek mythology,

00:39:29.640 they believe that there were nine muses in particular and that you can communicate with them and they would be the inspiration for various works that you did.

00:39:37.520 And so let's say that that is a,

00:39:40.600 a real thing that,

00:39:42.680 you know,

00:39:43.120 and a lot of people,

00:39:43.700 they attribute their works of arts to being given to them in a dream or an altered state,

00:39:50.160 a drug induced state,

00:39:51.220 alcohol,

00:39:51.620 whatever the case may be.

00:39:52.540 There are a lot of artists who openly attribute,

00:39:54.700 well,

00:39:54.800 this song came to me in a dream.

00:39:57.100 And the idea for this book or this movie came to me in this experience.

00:40:01.320 And so I am open to the idea that this guy Ingersoll Lockwood just set out to write some books that maybe he never even thought about where the ideas came from.

00:40:12.860 He just,

00:40:14.000 what he thought was arbitrarily wrote down,

00:40:16.840 you know,

00:40:17.100 Baron Trump or something like that.

00:40:18.580 And then,

00:40:19.300 you know,

00:40:19.600 later on down the line,

00:40:20.360 we end up making this,

00:40:21.100 this big connection.

00:40:21.760 I mean,

00:40:21.980 it's,

00:40:22.180 it is kind of weird though.

00:40:23.440 Like the Baron Trump part,

00:40:25.160 it,

00:40:25.560 it,

00:40:26.080 it goes like,

00:40:27.040 where did he,

00:40:27.800 now he did spend plenty of time in Germany.

00:40:30.140 We showed that earlier,

00:40:31.340 right?

00:40:31.780 In Hanover,

00:40:32.760 Trump's family is from Germany by a different,

00:40:37.380 they had a different name and it was changed,

00:40:39.560 but it's all kind of the same,

00:40:42.060 right?

00:40:42.440 I mean,

00:40:43.340 it's like a,

00:40:44.260 my name Tanton was changed from Taunton.

00:40:49.340 Right.

00:40:50.140 So you,

00:40:51.840 you go down that route.

00:40:53.280 The other thing with John Trump that,

00:40:55.460 and Tesla that kind of comes in as the,

00:40:58.560 and again,

00:40:58.960 it's New York state cause it's shady as shit.

00:41:02.480 You've got the Montauk project,

00:41:04.940 which I don't know if you guys have heard of.

00:41:07.600 Maybe you have.

00:41:09.340 I don't,

00:41:10.380 you know,

00:41:10.760 so the Montauk project,

00:41:12.700 there's no direct evidence that John Trump dealt with,

00:41:18.220 but he,

00:41:19.000 there's just a lot of the stuff rhymes with things that he did and people that

00:41:24.740 he knew people that he hung out with being involved in the Montauk project,

00:41:29.500 which was,

00:41:30.060 you know,

00:41:30.780 secret alleged secret government program that involved time travel,

00:41:37.080 psychological warfare and interdimensional experiments.

00:41:42.840 So like the Philadelphia experiment.

00:41:45.160 Is this the one where they,

00:41:46.120 they're,

00:41:46.620 they're basically experimenting with trauma on children.

00:41:50.460 Part of it.

00:41:51.200 Well,

00:41:51.440 because it's based,

00:41:52.400 it's what stranger things is based on parts of it or what's based on stranger

00:41:57.520 things.

00:41:58.080 Right.

00:41:58.440 Bennett,

00:41:58.940 before you continue that thought,

00:42:00.400 we are at the 36 minute mark and there's a lot more gravy on the table,

00:42:04.440 guys.

00:42:04.600 Cause I want to ask about this.

00:42:07.420 You said that his family came from Germany.

00:42:09.260 They specifically came from Bavaria and correct.

00:42:12.920 Yes.

00:42:13.340 And what's fascinating about that is that is the same place that the Illuminati

00:42:17.000 was birthed from.

00:42:18.620 And there are those who speculate that the Trump family is a breakaway family

00:42:23.800 of the 13 Royal bloodlines that made up the Illuminati.

00:42:26.420 So I'm pretty sure some of his people in his bloodline have those nice scars

00:42:31.560 on their face.

00:42:32.260 Well,

00:42:32.420 let me tell you,

00:42:32.860 when I look at his dad,

00:42:34.080 is this like his dad had like a weird.

00:42:37.160 Nogget dude.

00:42:37.940 He looked like a,

00:42:38.800 like a mushroom.

00:42:39.640 He looked like toad from super Mario brothers.

00:42:41.820 If,

00:42:42.300 if toad was,

00:42:43.380 it's a,

00:42:44.000 it's a,

00:42:44.220 he's a harrowing looking figure,

00:42:45.540 but before we continue that conversation,

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00:43:06.980 All right.

00:43:07.620 So,

00:43:08.060 um,

00:43:08.480 please continue that,

00:43:09.380 that train of thought.

00:43:10.280 No.

00:43:10.780 So,

00:43:11.000 I mean,

00:43:11.500 in the,

00:43:11.880 the Montauk project has,

00:43:13.920 um,

00:43:15.420 also ties to the Philadelphia experiment.

00:43:17.500 We know how that ended up.

00:43:18.880 Right.

00:43:19.320 So it's,

00:43:21.840 it just kind of makes your,

00:43:23.040 your head.

00:43:23.940 The Philadelphia experiment was,

00:43:26.240 um,

00:43:26.980 the one that allegedly ended with,

00:43:29.100 with,

00:43:29.720 um,

00:43:30.360 the ship.

00:43:31.540 Well,

00:43:32.100 not,

00:43:32.380 not just the ship disappearing,

00:43:33.340 but there was allegations of like people being in the ship,

00:43:36.080 like,

00:43:36.440 like something happened and they phased into the steel of the ship.

00:43:40.540 And,

00:43:40.820 and the way that this was supposedly done is through some sort of

00:43:44.140 manipulation of the electromagnetic frequency or something like

00:43:47.480 that.

00:43:47.660 Right.

00:43:47.860 So this is the same thing that people suspect.

00:43:50.480 There are those who look at nine 11 and,

00:43:52.940 um,

00:43:53.480 and they say,

00:43:54.020 how does a plane pass through a building that is designed to take an

00:43:58.260 impact from that building?

00:43:59.180 And then some people will point to the fact that there was a,

00:44:02.460 a storm off the coast of New York.

00:44:05.440 And that oftentimes in,

00:44:07.940 in,

00:44:08.540 um,

00:44:09.400 highly electrical charged storms,

00:44:11.680 you will find phenomenon,

00:44:13.440 for example,

00:44:13.900 like a piece of straw getting driven through a stop sign.

00:44:19.440 Right.

00:44:19.980 And that's a phenomenon that is documented,

00:44:22.940 you know,

00:44:23.400 in,

00:44:23.560 in hurricanes and tornadoes and things like that,

00:44:25.460 that this,

00:44:26.020 you'll find that you'll find straw or things that don't have the

00:44:29.060 structural integrity to be able to pass through something that

00:44:31.260 solid.

00:44:31.740 And yet in the aftermath,

00:44:33.640 you will find things lodged into solid structures that have no

00:44:36.860 business being there whatsoever.

00:44:37.740 Some people speculate that because there was an electromagnetic aspect to

00:44:42.040 the storm,

00:44:42.820 somehow this does something to the,

00:44:45.820 to a solid object on the molecular level.

00:44:49.060 It disrupts it.

00:44:50.400 It breaks it down temporarily and it makes it significantly less solid.

00:44:54.940 And so,

00:44:56.020 um,

00:44:56.760 I think that's kind of the same thing.

00:44:58.520 And it's interesting to me because Nikola Tesla was all about

00:45:03.240 electricity and frequency.

00:45:05.280 Right.

00:45:05.760 And it's like,

00:45:06.300 we've moved away from that in a way.

00:45:07.980 We almost look at that as like,

00:45:09.560 that's old school stuff,

00:45:10.420 right?

00:45:10.600 That's like the invention of the light bulb.

00:45:12.140 You put a key on a,

00:45:13.540 on a,

00:45:14.100 uh,

00:45:14.620 what do you call it?

00:45:15.260 A kite.

00:45:15.760 And that's how you're,

00:45:16.900 you know what I mean?

00:45:17.320 It's all,

00:45:17.720 and that seems like old school shit.

00:45:19.600 Some Ben Franklin shit.

00:45:20.840 Yeah.

00:45:21.160 And we're done with that now.

00:45:22.180 Now we're trying to split atoms and we're trying to do,

00:45:24.200 you know,

00:45:24.560 fusion,

00:45:24.920 whatever we're,

00:45:25.320 we're doing extra cool shit.

00:45:27.100 That's old school shit.

00:45:28.520 But Nikola Tesla didn't seem to think so.

00:45:30.260 He thought that that was the key to everything.

00:45:32.500 Well,

00:45:32.520 I think he went back and I'm not saying he went back in time,

00:45:36.720 but I think his theories went back in time too.

00:45:41.060 I mean,

00:45:41.460 man,

00:45:41.740 you could pull all kinds of shit into this with like the mud flood and

00:45:46.120 Tartaria and all the fucking lost knowledge that we have with acoustics

00:45:51.260 and frequency.

00:45:52.080 And I mean,

00:45:53.440 literally his theory of,

00:45:56.900 you know,

00:45:57.820 uh,

00:45:58.260 I mean,

00:45:58.660 kind of his theories also morphed into wifi to an extent.

00:46:02.920 I mean,

00:46:03.460 like you're talking about energy transmission where you're just pulling it

00:46:07.520 from the air.

00:46:08.240 Right.

00:46:08.800 We know that shit exists,

00:46:10.460 right?

00:46:11.140 But it's not,

00:46:12.060 it's not something that,

00:46:13.380 um,

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00:46:13.960 so to bolster that conspiracy,

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00:47:47.760 Tesla,

00:47:48.300 and we went in this other direction,

00:47:49.660 is because you simply can't,

00:47:50.820 if you could just pull electricity from the air,

00:47:53.200 and even from the ground,

00:47:54.880 how the hell do you monetize that?

00:47:56.340 How do you turn that into a system that people are constantly paying for?

00:47:59.100 You can't.

00:48:00.080 Correct.

00:48:00.380 And if you look at a lot of ancient technologies,

00:48:04.540 well,

00:48:05.080 a supposed ancient technologies,

00:48:06.780 that's exactly what pyramids maybe were for.

00:48:10.140 There's all kinds of this stuff,

00:48:11.840 the spires on all these ancient temples and stuff that we can't even build now.

00:48:17.580 Right.

00:48:18.320 So,

00:48:18.820 I mean,

00:48:19.420 I,

00:48:20.320 it's,

00:48:20.980 it's ripe for speculation and,

00:48:23.300 or,

00:48:23.640 you know,

00:48:23.980 all this stuff.

00:48:25.060 Um,

00:48:25.920 I mean,

00:48:26.960 but when it really comes down to,

00:48:29.320 uh,

00:48:31.000 like stuff with Donald Trump in this whole theory,

00:48:35.180 right.

00:48:36.440 Especially when it comes to 1900 in the last president,

00:48:39.800 I,

00:48:40.220 I look at that book as a,

00:48:42.080 as a way,

00:48:42.940 whether Ingersoll Lockwood was a time traveler or,

00:48:46.780 or had maybe I,

00:48:48.920 one of the other theories that I kind of like is the fact that he might've been

00:48:53.000 like,

00:48:53.340 uh,

00:48:53.660 like some Edward Casey stuff,

00:48:56.680 like with,

00:48:57.620 you know,

00:48:58.060 being a medium or,

00:48:59.600 or,

00:48:59.960 uh,

00:49:01.460 like just dreaming this stuff up,

00:49:03.120 trying to,

00:49:03.740 is that,

00:49:04.540 is that the guy's name?

00:49:05.420 Edgar Casey.

00:49:06.320 Yeah.

00:49:06.660 Yeah.

00:49:06.900 Yeah.

00:49:07.040 Yeah.

00:49:07.180 You know?

00:49:07.920 Um,

00:49:08.480 so I,

00:49:09.560 I kind of look at it that way as more of a prophetic type of thing that this

00:49:16.280 might be a reality that could happen.

00:49:18.600 Um,

00:49:19.320 because if you think about Donald Trump and the way that he,

00:49:24.460 even the way that he speaks,

00:49:26.660 he speaks in very prophetic statements with big things coming and,

00:49:32.800 uh,

00:49:33.660 people won't believe what happens next and all these things.

00:49:37.740 Right.

00:49:38.160 Um,

00:49:38.740 and some speculate that Trump knows what's coming.

00:49:42.720 Maybe,

00:49:43.580 maybe he doesn't.

00:49:44.540 Like it.

00:49:45.320 Right.

00:49:46.000 Um,

00:49:46.380 so,

00:49:46.760 uh,

00:49:47.780 and buddy's been using that knowledge strategically.

00:49:51.740 Right.

00:49:52.400 Right.

00:49:52.700 Well,

00:49:52.800 that's the thing.

00:49:53.320 It's,

00:49:53.700 you know,

00:49:54.220 on one hand he's interpreted as like a bumbling idiot.

00:49:56.960 And on the other hand,

00:49:58.900 he's interpreted as,

00:50:00.420 uh,

00:50:01.040 some five D chess playing time traveler.

00:50:04.560 It's a phenomenal place.

00:50:06.960 Yes.

00:50:07.780 Um,

00:50:08.180 with some of his stuff where,

00:50:09.840 I mean,

00:50:10.120 I'm,

00:50:10.420 I'm sorry,

00:50:10.960 but you know,

00:50:11.740 you've got to look at some of the executive orders that he's made or

00:50:16.480 threats that he's done.

00:50:18.020 Oh,

00:50:18.100 he's,

00:50:18.400 he's doing,

00:50:19.040 he's playing the art of the deal with a lot of these things too,

00:50:22.600 where it's like,

00:50:23.600 Hey,

00:50:24.400 if I tear a few 25%,

00:50:26.600 I threatened it.

00:50:29.120 You know,

00:50:29.800 that you're going to get a response from Canada or Mexico.

00:50:33.900 And look,

00:50:34.560 Oh my God,

00:50:35.300 look what happened.

00:50:36.880 You know,

00:50:37.860 um,

00:50:38.460 circumventing things with verbiage.

00:50:41.020 He does that very,

00:50:42.240 very,

00:50:42.520 very well.

00:50:43.520 So I,

00:50:46.140 there's another element Bennett.

00:50:48.160 I don't know if you've ever heard of it.

00:50:49.440 Um,

00:50:49.960 I'm sorry to interrupt.

00:50:50.720 I just want to kind of,

00:50:51.400 Oh no,

00:50:51.740 go right ahead.

00:50:52.760 So,

00:50:53.400 uh,

00:50:54.540 speaking of shows,

00:50:56.600 that seemingly or,

00:50:57.980 or,

00:50:58.240 or entertainment that alludes to Donald Trump,

00:51:00.500 uh,

00:51:01.680 1958 episode of a series called the track down.

00:51:04.760 And,

00:51:05.320 um,

00:51:05.780 it's a Western,

00:51:06.800 it's an old Western.

00:51:07.420 And,

00:51:07.980 and the episode in particular is called the end of the world.

00:51:10.300 And in this episode,

00:51:11.680 a stranger comes to town and he's warning of impending doom.

00:51:16.000 The world is going to end.

00:51:17.620 And,

00:51:18.140 you know,

00:51:18.940 fear not,

00:51:19.360 he has a way to remedy this.

00:51:21.420 All you have to do is,

00:51:23.040 uh,

00:51:23.440 allow him to build a wall around the town and this will protect it somehow.

00:51:29.040 Like this is the stuff we're talking about.

00:51:30.920 His name in it is Trump.

00:51:33.820 That's the name of the character that comes to town.

00:51:35.880 And,

00:51:36.360 uh,

00:51:36.540 and he turns out to be a con,

00:51:38.380 a con man,

00:51:39.020 a charlatan.

00:51:39.960 Right.

00:51:40.500 I mean,

00:51:41.260 I don't know what,

00:51:42.820 I,

00:51:43.560 I think I'm getting more and more comfortable with,

00:51:45.420 with what you just said,

00:51:46.680 which is like,

00:51:48.120 is there a mediumship aspect to this?

00:51:49.860 Are you,

00:51:50.300 are you getting something?

00:51:51.700 And,

00:51:51.840 and cause I think a lot of people probably are channeling ideas.

00:51:54.780 There are,

00:51:55.140 uh,

00:51:55.620 um,

00:51:56.400 we talked to a clinical psychologist named Dr.

00:51:58.260 Jerry Marzinski.

00:51:58.820 He believes that like upwards of 80% of your thoughts are not your own.

00:52:01.920 And I,

00:52:02.260 I kind of am inclined to believe him because sometimes ideas and thoughts and

00:52:06.360 notions just pop up in my head unprovoked.

00:52:09.060 And it seems different from like my own thought process where I will

00:52:14.000 organically come to a conclusion or an idea in my head after working it out

00:52:17.740 or something will just pop into my head and I,

00:52:21.460 and I'm inspired in some way.

00:52:22.760 I go,

00:52:23.020 Oh,

00:52:23.200 that's,

00:52:23.640 that's interesting.

00:52:24.240 And then I,

00:52:24.660 I take that.

00:52:25.340 So,

00:52:25.540 um,

00:52:26.240 I think there is room in the discussion for whether or not these people

00:52:29.180 are,

00:52:29.400 are just receiving something.

00:52:31.940 And if you're not aware that these thoughts are not your own,

00:52:35.540 well,

00:52:35.640 you just interpret them as your own thoughts.

00:52:37.120 And then you go ahead and jot it down on a film or a movie or a,

00:52:39.460 or a,

00:52:39.960 or a book.

00:52:40.960 So one of the things too,

00:52:42.340 like something as simple as,

00:52:44.620 uh,

00:52:45.480 you know,

00:52:46.300 Donald Trump has in the past used pseudonyms as well.

00:52:51.640 Right.

00:52:53.380 Uh,

00:52:54.040 and one of his pseudonyms that he used in the eighties a lot is John Barron.

00:53:04.720 So this is not a thing that a lot of people talk about,

00:53:07.620 but I've never heard it either.

00:53:10.060 And he would pose as like a,

00:53:12.460 you know,

00:53:12.760 there is an actual lawyer named John Barron,

00:53:15.160 but I think he's a lot younger either way.

00:53:17.920 Like if you Google that name,

00:53:19.440 John Barron,

00:53:20.000 but look it up as pseudonym for John,

00:53:23.020 uh,

00:53:23.340 for Donald Trump used.

00:53:24.960 And it's John Barron.

00:53:26.200 And it's spelled the same way that his son's name is spelled B-A-R-R-O-N.

00:53:32.260 Right.

00:53:33.080 So,

00:53:33.520 uh,

00:53:34.360 people wonder where the name Barron came from.

00:53:38.000 Very interesting.

00:53:39.380 Maybe he just liked it.

00:53:40.920 They said he's using it to manage his own media narrative.

00:53:43.960 Yeah.

00:53:44.100 Yeah.

00:53:44.180 Right.

00:53:45.660 It's so,

00:53:46.500 it's almost like there's kind of this manifestation,

00:53:50.880 uh,

00:53:52.000 aspect to that type of stuff too.

00:53:54.020 Right.

00:53:54.660 Um,

00:53:54.960 yeah.

00:53:55.880 And you get,

00:53:56.940 man,

00:53:57.380 it's just one of these things like you can go down these rabbit holes forever.

00:54:02.300 Yeah.

00:54:02.520 Another rabbit hole that is,

00:54:05.000 um,

00:54:06.180 intimately tied in with Donald Trump,

00:54:08.520 especially right now is Elon Musk's,

00:54:11.020 right?

00:54:11.160 We're talking about Tesla.

00:54:13.380 Elon Musk owns the company Tesla.

00:54:15.760 Um,

00:54:16.580 but Werner von Braun,

00:54:17.920 the,

00:54:18.120 the Nazi father of NASA wrote a book about a guy that colonized the

00:54:24.320 guy's is Mars.

00:54:25.320 Um,

00:54:25.800 and his name is Elon.

00:54:27.520 Exactly.

00:54:28.300 It's like,

00:54:28.740 that is the exact same energy in my opinion as the Ingersoll Lockwood books.

00:54:32.340 And yes,

00:54:33.400 I don't know.

00:54:35.240 It just gets it.

00:54:37.080 Like you said,

00:54:37.480 you can go down endless rabbit holes.

00:54:39.260 They all connect.

00:54:40.180 And I don't even feel like I'm reaching like that was such a late,

00:54:42.580 like a,

00:54:43.260 that took no energy.

00:54:44.420 Anybody would hear that if you've never heard it before and go like,

00:54:47.980 Oh shit.

00:54:48.720 Like,

00:54:48.920 I'm not trying to convince you to use your critical thinking cap and your

00:54:52.200 conspiratorial skills.

00:54:53.240 I'm just telling you that Elon Musk was a character in a book by a,

00:54:57.600 by a Nazi that created NASA and he's about colonizing Mars.

00:55:01.700 And you go,

00:55:02.060 what?

00:55:02.700 Wait,

00:55:03.160 what?

00:55:03.500 What?

00:55:04.560 Yeah.

00:55:05.000 What the hell do I do with that?

00:55:06.400 Right.

00:55:07.140 I mean,

00:55:07.860 so like,

00:55:09.260 uh,

00:55:10.180 Baron's an unusual name.

00:55:11.760 It's not like,

00:55:12.720 you know,

00:55:13.000 other than the title,

00:55:14.320 right?

00:55:14.680 Baron.

00:55:15.560 Can I say something?

00:55:16.020 Which I understand.

00:55:17.100 Isn't it interesting?

00:55:17.920 I think just recently,

00:55:19.480 Elon Musk was like,

00:55:20.620 uh,

00:55:21.080 that was brought up to him on Twitter.

00:55:23.380 And he goes,

00:55:24.080 right.

00:55:24.380 Whoa,

00:55:25.140 really?

00:55:26.060 I'm like,

00:55:26.300 no,

00:55:26.420 no,

00:55:26.480 he didn't even say that.

00:55:27.140 You know what he said?

00:55:27.780 It was so much more cryptic than that.

00:55:29.800 So this girl brings it up.

00:55:31.160 She goes,

00:55:31.560 anger.

00:55:31.960 So Lockwood and Elon Musk and Mars and,

00:55:34.880 and Werner von Braun.

00:55:35.940 And she does the whole thing.

00:55:37.120 And then he comments and he goes,

00:55:39.080 that's just a coincidence.

00:55:41.240 Winky face.

00:55:43.080 Jeez.

00:55:43.840 Yeah.

00:55:44.100 No,

00:55:44.360 see,

00:55:44.660 and that's what I'm saying is I look at so much of this,

00:55:48.400 like,

00:55:48.820 why is this important?

00:55:50.360 Like,

00:55:50.600 what is the significance right to a lot of this?

00:55:53.620 I look at it.

00:55:54.600 So much of it is that it's an inside joke or a reference to hidden knowledge,

00:56:01.260 right.

00:56:02.660 By all these folks that are involved,

00:56:05.000 you know,

00:56:05.380 also the side with Donald Trump.

00:56:08.540 I mean,

00:56:08.820 the Trump family,

00:56:10.060 not just Donald,

00:56:11.160 but even his father and whatnot and associates.

00:56:16.380 They're obsessed.

00:56:17.820 Top.

00:56:18.060 Can you bring up a picture of,

00:56:19.260 of Frederick Trump and,

00:56:20.660 and his wife,

00:56:21.740 dude,

00:56:21.880 they're the most,

00:56:23.460 they don't even look real.

00:56:24.900 They look terrifying.

00:56:26.680 They are the shit of nightmares.

00:56:28.360 I mean,

00:56:28.640 literally his,

00:56:29.420 his,

00:56:29.660 if it's his mom,

00:56:30.860 um,

00:56:31.440 uh,

00:56:31.780 is that Mary Trump or her middle names or whatever the hell her name is.

00:56:34.620 She looks like Trump in a,

00:56:36.360 in a wonderful wig.

00:56:37.500 She looks like Trump.

00:56:38.600 If his hair evolved just a little bit more,

00:56:40.820 it's it,

00:56:41.780 she has his face.

00:56:42.760 It's so terrifying.

00:56:44.000 And Frederick Trump looks like a demon.

00:56:47.300 He is the worst looking dude.

00:56:48.820 I've ever said,

00:56:49.440 we're going to be,

00:56:50.240 no,

00:56:50.420 no,

00:56:50.520 no.

00:56:50.700 Okay.

00:56:51.040 So the picture I saw was clearly Photoshopped.

00:56:53.140 I'm,

00:56:53.440 I now apologize to,

00:56:54.880 uh,

00:56:55.840 the parents of Donald Trump.

00:56:56.820 They look a little bit more reasonable than what I had seen.

00:56:59.220 I had seen a horrifying picture.

00:57:02.180 Um,

00:57:03.060 but the other thing with this is that the Trump family is obsessed with branding and legacy.

00:57:10.720 Oh yeah.

00:57:11.420 And they crush it.

00:57:12.720 I mean,

00:57:13.100 what if they knew about the book beforehand?

00:57:15.280 I don't know.

00:57:16.160 I,

00:57:16.300 I,

00:57:16.580 I really,

00:57:17.480 I've,

00:57:18.200 I've tried to do,

00:57:20.160 um,

00:57:21.300 uh,

00:57:21.900 like,

00:57:22.400 you know,

00:57:22.620 six degrees of Kevin Bacon,

00:57:24.140 right?

00:57:24.740 Like how close can I get to Donald Trump that I could possibly ask this question of a friend of a friend of a friend.

00:57:33.060 Right.

00:57:33.340 I spent a lot of time in the military and I do,

00:57:37.960 I did work for the government and I,

00:57:41.400 I've met a lot of people and I also do entrepreneur work and,

00:57:45.340 and stuff within the,

00:57:47.440 that space.

00:57:49.020 So I got to within like two people,

00:57:51.320 you know,

00:57:52.380 like a friend of a,

00:57:54.160 of,

00:57:54.760 of like a family member.

00:57:56.040 Right.

00:57:56.620 And I posed this question and I've just never gotten an answer.

00:58:01.140 I'm like,

00:58:01.420 did you know about the book?

00:58:02.540 No one's no one of any legitimacy has ever asked that,

00:58:07.660 that I've seen or that I can find.

00:58:10.220 Do you know about these books and would you comment on them?

00:58:13.680 Like,

00:58:13.960 why is that not happening?

00:58:15.940 Yeah.

00:58:16.280 I think we're going to get there.

00:58:17.960 I think maybe it's just a matter of,

00:58:20.320 um,

00:58:20.880 when the theater is,

00:58:22.600 is ready for it.

00:58:23.900 When that part is ready to be crossed,

00:58:25.820 because I do think he's going to play some,

00:58:27.860 a really insane role.

00:58:29.680 Um,

00:58:30.540 whether or not Ingersoll Lockwood was,

00:58:32.120 was in on it or he was,

00:58:34.620 you know,

00:58:35.260 unwittingly predicting something or inspired to predict something.

00:58:39.700 Um,

00:58:40.500 it's all panning out and such.

00:58:42.120 I mean,

00:58:42.300 just to say the last president,

00:58:44.100 right.

00:58:44.360 And it's like,

00:58:44.840 you look at where we are in the historical timeline of the United States of

00:58:49.140 America,

00:58:49.480 we're in unprecedented times when it comes to the presidency and our election

00:58:54.540 process.

00:58:55.000 It almost feels like we are at the precipice of a total revamping of our,

00:59:00.520 of our,

00:59:01.020 uh,

00:59:01.380 election process.

00:59:02.340 And it also seems like,

00:59:04.720 uh,

00:59:05.400 he is now advocating or somebody is advocating on his behalf,

00:59:08.620 whatever.

00:59:08.940 There's,

00:59:09.220 there's,

00:59:09.520 um,

00:59:09.940 a talk about amending the 22nd amendment and,

00:59:13.540 and trying to get him to have a third term effectively nullifying his first

00:59:17.620 one.

00:59:17.900 Maybe you could argue that there was so much interference in his first,

00:59:21.140 um,

00:59:21.680 term that it wasn't fair.

00:59:23.080 And so,

00:59:23.620 but whatever the case is,

00:59:25.020 it's getting so wide that these are things that don't happen.

00:59:28.000 And,

00:59:28.720 and there's a story in the 1800s that tells you kind of that this would happen.

00:59:33.160 So I don't know where it all goes.

00:59:36.140 I mean,

00:59:36.780 you know,

00:59:37.080 going back to that discussion we were having earlier about whether or not he's

00:59:39.660 the antichrist.

00:59:40.180 It's like,

00:59:40.440 I don't,

00:59:40.820 I don't so much believe he's the antichrist,

00:59:43.640 but I do recognize that in the same way,

00:59:47.220 it seems like they want us to find these Ingersoll Lockwood books.

00:59:51.120 They want us to see the Wernher von Braun,

00:59:53.640 Elon connection.

00:59:54.680 They want us to see the Tesla connection.

00:59:56.280 They also,

00:59:57.500 um,

00:59:58.000 want us to,

00:59:59.900 they want us to see all this.

01:00:01.100 And that,

01:00:01.440 that kind of gives me a lot of pause too,

01:00:03.140 right?

01:00:03.520 Because we're speculating like,

01:00:05.140 what is the nature of this?

01:00:06.360 I don't know what the nature of it is.

01:00:07.820 And maybe they are laughing behind the scenes,

01:00:09.480 but they want us to see this.

01:00:11.380 And that makes me distrusted entirely.

01:00:13.640 Cause there is,

01:00:14.340 you know,

01:00:14.540 in my heart,

01:00:15.680 it,

01:00:16.660 there is,

01:00:17.080 um,

01:00:17.360 uh,

01:00:17.680 a temptation to give in to the validation.

01:00:21.720 You know,

01:00:22.200 I could run around and just say like,

01:00:23.740 yeah,

01:00:23.940 see,

01:00:24.240 we told you he's going to be the last president.

01:00:25.980 And it's like,

01:00:26.360 I don't necessarily believe that.

01:00:28.080 I don't believe any of this is genuine.

01:00:30.640 It feels like theater to me.

01:00:32.320 It feels like it wants to be found.

01:00:33.680 And somebody's laughing when we connect these dots.

01:00:36.460 Yeah.

01:00:36.900 I mean,

01:00:37.400 at the end of the day,

01:00:39.140 like the key themes of the,

01:00:41.520 of the 19 really,

01:00:43.000 I mean,

01:00:43.480 Baron Trump,

01:00:44.520 those whole books,

01:00:45.660 it's just that it's kind of a,

01:00:49.920 it's,

01:00:50.480 it's not really as big a deal in my opinion is 1900 and the last president.

01:00:55.240 Right.

01:00:55.760 It,

01:00:56.220 um,

01:00:56.580 because these books like the last president,

01:00:59.920 there's a lot of correlation with the present day.

01:01:05.460 Um,

01:01:06.460 but it's different.

01:01:08.020 And I don't know how to describe that.

01:01:10.000 It's different.

01:01:10.520 Uh,

01:01:11.040 other than,

01:01:11.680 you know,

01:01:12.500 it talks about a,

01:01:15.880 a election of a controversial populist president.

01:01:20.820 And you can't say that Trump is anything other than that.

01:01:24.180 Yeah.

01:01:24.900 Right.

01:01:25.860 Um,

01:01:26.800 the parallels to Trump is that,

01:01:29.020 you know,

01:01:29.440 many,

01:01:30.000 and I'm going to read this part cause I'm half an idiot.

01:01:33.800 Um,

01:01:34.600 many readers have drawn connections between this fictional leader and Donald

01:01:38.940 Trump,

01:01:39.360 uh,

01:01:40.400 who was an outsider candidate running on the populist platform in 2016.

01:01:45.520 However,

01:01:46.380 it's essential to note that the novels president aligns more with socialist

01:01:51.620 movements of the time.

01:01:54.860 Rather than the capitalist ones like Trump.

01:01:58.860 Right.

01:01:59.500 It was,

01:01:59.880 it was almost like,

01:02:00.920 uh,

01:02:01.340 that book is,

01:02:02.120 uh,

01:02:02.920 was like a social statement.

01:02:04.900 They were talking about,

01:02:05.480 it was,

01:02:05.820 it was more of a based on like the character,

01:02:09.200 literally,

01:02:09.700 um,

01:02:11.180 the,

01:02:11.540 the,

01:02:11.860 the last president,

01:02:13.800 right.

01:02:14.100 The guy who won the presidency was,

01:02:17.080 it was more of a based on a,

01:02:19.440 um,

01:02:20.200 the guy who lost the 19,

01:02:24.180 a hundred gosh,

01:02:26.160 what's his name?

01:02:27.220 William.

01:02:29.460 Is it tapped?

01:02:31.020 No,

01:02:31.920 of course I lost it.

01:02:33.280 Where'd you go?

01:02:34.000 My notes and now I can't even read them.

01:02:40.040 Um,

01:02:40.600 Oh,

01:02:41.060 William Jennings,

01:02:42.060 Brian,

01:02:42.800 Brian,

01:02:43.480 uh,

01:02:44.000 who was a democratic populist candidate in the 1896 election.

01:02:47.940 Right.

01:02:48.420 Um,

01:02:49.960 the president that actually,

01:02:51.620 but see,

01:02:51.960 here's another,

01:02:52.700 this is,

01:02:53.400 this is one of those little things.

01:02:55.380 Like I brought up the John Barron.

01:02:57.240 Here's a little nugget of,

01:02:59.020 Oh my God.

01:03:00.720 When this book was written and.

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01:04:35.600 The actual president in charge at the time was Grover Cleveland.

01:04:42.100 Grover Cleveland is the only other president to have a two-term broken term.

01:04:47.840 Does that mean anything?

01:04:52.160 I don't know.

01:04:53.000 But it's just one of those coincidences, right?

01:04:56.760 This is something that I...

01:04:57.760 Wasn't McKinley assassinated as well?

01:04:59.140 I mean...

01:05:00.680 McKinley was.

01:05:02.820 Yeah.

01:05:03.180 Yeah.

01:05:04.100 Yes.

01:05:04.360 That's who won.

01:05:05.020 That's who won that election.

01:05:06.500 Hmm.

01:05:06.660 So something that I've been speculating as to why we see these things.

01:05:13.360 Like when you look at Donald Trump,

01:05:15.640 we talked about how there's a bunch of like 9-11 symbolism associated with him too,

01:05:19.560 right?

01:05:19.740 Throughout all these events since 9-11,

01:05:21.500 it seems like somehow Trump is woven himself into the narrative.

01:05:28.020 And I almost begin to suspect like when you see something like that,

01:05:32.620 where there's all these conspiracies surrounding one event or one person.

01:05:40.720 And it's not just one thing, right?

01:05:42.180 It's like, is there numerological alignments?

01:05:45.640 Yes.

01:05:46.200 Is there weird historical connections?

01:05:48.840 Yes.

01:05:49.220 Is there strange symbolism surrounding them?

01:05:51.460 Yes.

01:05:52.020 And it's like, how are all these things happening at once?

01:05:54.800 I almost feel like the reason these elites...

01:05:58.620 How do you write this book?

01:06:00.500 I've never even put that together.

01:06:02.720 Because I was like, yeah, McKinley was assassinated in 1901.

01:06:05.660 Yeah, but after Grover Cleveland was the president in 1896 when this was released.

01:06:12.560 Right.

01:06:13.120 But it's still like, that's still a little too close, dude.

01:06:15.980 It's still bizarre.

01:06:17.200 And then you have William McKinley, right?

01:06:19.500 And then who became president when McKinley died?

01:06:22.640 Roosevelt.

01:06:23.700 Theodore Roosevelt.

01:06:25.240 So there's just, I don't know.

01:06:27.640 I haven't really dug into that yet, but there's some things that don't sit right in my gut

01:06:34.540 with that whole thing.

01:06:36.560 I'm just saying, again, broadcasting seeds.

01:06:40.140 Right, right.

01:06:40.820 Well, no, it's not like we ever claim to have any answers.

01:06:43.000 Yeah, I'm literally just, I literally walk around and I just do this.

01:06:47.220 Yeah.

01:06:48.000 It's just, we might as well call this show like...

01:06:50.340 I don't touch my heart first and then do it, but...

01:06:52.700 Yeah, as long as your heart goes out to people.

01:06:54.860 I guess it just depends on who you're talking about doing that and whether it's an issue

01:06:58.520 or not.

01:06:59.120 I swear, a lot of what we do is just showing you things that make you go, hmm.

01:07:02.760 You know what I mean?

01:07:03.220 And that's the whole point, right?

01:07:04.920 But going back to this, you know, why is there so many layers of connectivity to like symbolism,

01:07:12.200 astrology, history, occult crap, all in one, you know, event or all in one character.

01:07:19.000 And I think it's because that is about the closest you can get to altering this realm

01:07:27.400 is by, you sort of can concoct an entire ritual.

01:07:32.620 And the more ways in which it connects to our reality, like if it connects some way

01:07:38.200 to astrology, good, that's one layer.

01:07:40.580 If it connects some way to numerology, okay, great, that's another layer.

01:07:44.120 What if it connects to, you know, something historical, you know, ancient cultures?

01:07:50.280 Okay, great, there's another one.

01:07:51.760 What if you can then also connect it to several moments that take place in pop culture and

01:07:55.820 Hollywood?

01:07:56.280 Great, there's another one.

01:07:57.120 So the more layers of connectivity to something that is established in this realm, the higher

01:08:03.420 the likelihood that you're going to be able to execute this thing when the time comes,

01:08:07.560 and you're going to be able to yield the results that you want when the time comes.

01:08:11.340 And I don't think that you can, if you want to move and shake things on the world stage,

01:08:15.900 it has to be done in that way.

01:08:17.640 Because otherwise, it's like, you know, I was talking about 9-11.

01:08:20.640 It's like, we're trying to, we do a semi-annual event called Bohemian Grove, and to try to

01:08:26.120 execute a live IRL event with an audience and performers and all this shit, it's very

01:08:32.120 difficult.

01:08:33.140 So I look over to when they pull off a 9-11, and I go, how the shit do you do that?

01:08:37.780 I can't even get people on the docket to perform.

01:08:40.840 And I think it's because there is a real spiritual manipulation.

01:08:44.700 And the way that you do that is through ceremony, is through ritual, is through astrology, numerology,

01:08:49.720 you know, history, all this shit.

01:08:52.220 And only then can you execute things on a high level.

01:08:54.820 That's like, what's this guy's name?

01:08:56.220 J.P. Morgan?

01:08:57.200 Allegedly.

01:08:57.800 This is something that is attributed to him.

01:09:00.020 I can't verify it.

01:09:01.100 I've tried.

01:09:02.260 But he says, like, millionaires worry about one thing, billionaires worry about astrology,

01:09:07.980 or something like that.

01:09:08.840 You know what I mean?

01:09:09.280 Right, right, right.

01:09:09.400 Something like that.

01:09:10.240 You're right.

01:09:10.480 Yeah.

01:09:10.700 So, you know, obviously, they're telling you, if that quote is true, that at the highest

01:09:17.100 levels, the biggest operators on this, you know, world stage are using things like astrology,

01:09:23.260 et cetera, to be able to pull them off.

01:09:25.120 Yeah, well, we know, also, Rockefeller had lots of ties to astrology, right?

01:09:33.160 So there's some validity to that point.

01:09:36.960 I think when it comes down to these books, right, especially the 1900 book, I think what

01:09:46.100 we're looking at is a history rhymes situation, right?

01:09:52.220 I mean, maybe not, but I think that you've got political warning, you know, and that's what

01:10:02.080 it really comes down to is that it reflects the fears of the time that he lived into just

01:10:08.800 happened to be slightly prophetic, right?

01:10:11.440 I mean, but again, we don't really know, but I'm just, this is what my gut says, is that

01:10:17.520 the strange connections to like modern events and like figures, they're fascinating, but

01:10:28.900 ultimately, I think they're circumstantial, you know what I mean?

01:10:32.260 At least in this case.

01:10:33.520 It would be one thing, even though there's some ties, I feel like there's just too much

01:10:40.640 lost time, which is also kind of a red flag that like this guy did all this stuff right

01:10:51.900 in the, in the late 1890s, basically didn't come back out.

01:10:58.480 But again, we kind of talked about it is he wrote another book in 1910, um, talking about,

01:11:07.560 um, it's called the laconics of, of cult.

01:11:14.840 That's right.

01:11:15.720 That's right.

01:11:16.500 I've seen this a little bit Bennett and it's like, uh, just to interject, it seems like our

01:11:22.220 guy Ingersoll had a real lamentation for God.

01:11:25.860 Oh yeah.

01:11:26.880 Like it's a critique of organized religion beyond anything.

01:11:31.120 Like he, not a fan.

01:11:33.940 Right.

01:11:34.560 Um, and he's very much a humanist.

01:11:38.140 Right.

01:11:39.200 You know?

01:11:40.100 Uh, so in, and he, I don't know if he tried to start a cult.

01:11:49.340 It's almost like he, there's not evidence of that, but you don't write a book like this.

01:11:54.920 I mean, cause literally it's like advocacy for a new cult.

01:11:59.600 That's what this book is about.

01:12:01.940 Um, you know, in place of traditional religious structures.

01:12:08.740 So that's basically like a, like a pagan ideology.

01:12:12.900 It's, it's worshiping creation, not the creator.

01:12:15.520 And so it's all, it's all, you know, human centric.

01:12:19.280 Uh, and again, this book is available.

01:12:21.960 You can find it, but it's a, it's not a banger as we would say.

01:12:26.860 Right.

01:12:27.200 It's a, it is a, it is a hard read and, but here's the thing.

01:12:35.000 If you're like, if you are into this stuff, there's some things that he talks about that

01:12:42.440 are in that, in that time periods, uh, the lexicon of, of knowledge, that's a little different

01:12:49.780 than the way we look at stuff now, right?

01:12:52.520 Like with Roman, the Roman pantheon and the Greek pantheon and, and the names of things

01:12:59.040 are a little different to an extent.

01:13:01.420 So it, it might be something, you know, shadowy gods on their shadowy thrones and, and all the

01:13:09.340 it's, it's, it's gets pretty deep.

01:13:12.060 Um, but it really is centered on this immortal human idea.

01:13:17.160 Right.

01:13:18.280 Um, so, uh, you know, what's interesting about that is I'm speculating as to whether or not

01:13:25.820 he's the recipient of some spiritual influence that he's unaware of to write these books.

01:13:31.420 And this is where we talk about this, this influence on him, the mute, uh, the muse.

01:13:37.160 Yes.

01:13:37.700 Right.

01:13:38.060 Yes.

01:13:38.460 And then where does it lead him?

01:13:39.800 It leads him to, to the same shit as in the garden.

01:13:43.700 It's like, to coin, to coin the phrase that you guys made famous.

01:13:49.980 That's some Nephilim shit.

01:13:51.620 That's, I mean, that's what it seems like, right?

01:13:53.400 It's a slow thing to me, but yeah, it's a whispering.

01:13:56.660 And then eventually it's like, Hey, God's not so great, man.

01:14:00.360 Right.

01:14:01.420 And this was near the end of his life.

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01:16:29.460 It's after he became a recluse, right?

01:16:33.220 So what are you doing in your time alone sitting in your house in Saratoga Springs, New York, right?

01:16:39.960 Like what kind of influence like his wife had left him, married another man, blah, blah, blah.

01:16:46.560 Like, you know, the sob story, right?

01:16:49.020 Who he went from being a pretty allegedly successful man, you know?

01:16:56.420 I mean, he was a freaking diplomat to, you know, a German principality or whatever.

01:17:02.740 And appointed by the president, right?

01:17:06.220 So when was his divorce?

01:17:09.000 Did he start writing after the divorce?

01:17:11.980 No, no, no.

01:17:12.540 It was during, he was married to her when he wrote some of this stuff.

01:17:16.400 And then, but she was, she was, of course, I don't have the notes on it, but she was a lot younger than he was.

01:17:23.020 And then the other thing is Ingersoll Lockwood's got poetry that he, and I don't have the, because it's not, it's hard to find.

01:17:32.440 It's hard to dig for this, but she married another poet who was far younger.

01:17:38.600 So, so he's probably a little, I mean, for all we know, she could have been the conduit to the, to the, to all this shit, you know?

01:17:47.220 Yeah, something we've been discovering on the show is that a lot of the people that come to us with these supernatural stories or these ideas of being recruited, shit like that, or anything occultic, a lot of the times it follows a divorce.

01:18:02.040 This, this breaking of a union, and then their life just turns to shit.

01:18:07.220 Yep.

01:18:07.420 Or, or they, they're influenced by something, right?

01:18:13.040 You said that he was in Saratoga when he was in isolation?

01:18:17.080 Well, that's where he ended, that's where he ended up dying, yes.

01:18:19.880 Okay, I just thought it was interesting because.

01:18:21.740 Before that, he spent some time in Kentucky, too.

01:18:24.680 I think he had a publishing house or something.

01:18:29.000 Okay.

01:18:29.400 You think I should have this information readily available, right?

01:18:32.940 But at the end of the day, I didn't want to talk about his history completely, but some of this is very, like, we don't even know where he went to college technically.

01:18:42.100 I think he went to Yale, so that's a little telling.

01:18:46.420 There's skull and bones and some other weird shit, but I can't find out for sure.

01:18:54.860 Well, New York is a very strange place when it comes to kind of these, these characters, right?

01:19:01.020 Well, I live in New York, too.

01:19:02.220 I don't know if you guys knew that.

01:19:03.800 It's a terrible place.

01:19:04.820 I live upstate.

01:19:06.100 I live outside Syracuse.

01:19:08.220 Oh, you live outside.

01:19:08.980 My mother lives up there.

01:19:11.320 I think she's by Albany, maybe a little bit further than Albany.

01:19:15.520 Yeah.

01:19:15.720 But Aleister Crowley spent some time in New York, specifically, like, in the middle of the Hudson River on Esopos Island, I think it was.

01:19:28.700 Yeah, there's an island there, yeah.

01:19:29.940 Yeah, and this is where he did the Amalantra workings, I believe, is where he did the Amalantra workings, where he ends up communicating with Lamb, which is where we get our first sort of alien gray visage.

01:19:41.240 And I don't know, it's just like the connecting tissue there is the Hudson, specifically, if you follow it all the way up, it'll bring you to Saratoga, obviously, Saratoga Springs, where everything is coming up out of the ground and then emptying out into the Hudson and then going down into the ocean.

01:19:55.980 But I don't know, I just, New York is, I mean, even Cashman is from New York, and he's strange.

01:20:01.400 So I don't know, there's something about New York.

01:20:05.660 Maybe don't spend too much time in isolation in upstate New York.

01:20:10.860 Yeah, yeah, right.

01:20:11.780 Which, that's the thing, there's nothing.

01:20:14.200 I mean, it's the Adirondack Mountains or the Tug Hill Plateau, and it's country as it gets.

01:20:19.900 I mean, our number one radio station up here is a country station.

01:20:24.480 Yeah, it's rolling hills.

01:20:25.860 Like, people think that it's the south, but it's funny because you head north enough into New York, and it becomes the south.

01:20:32.400 Right, or Canada.

01:20:33.960 Or Canada, right, which is a terrible unfortunate situation.

01:20:38.340 Yeah, so I basically, when I was in the Army, I was stationed at Fort Drum, which is in upstate New York, like 28 miles from the Canadian border.

01:20:49.280 And there's just some weird shit going on up there.

01:20:52.420 I mean, you have the, when we talk about, like, ley lines and things like that, New York is a target-rich environment for all that stuff.

01:21:01.840 Oh, yeah.

01:21:02.160 So there's a reason, I mean, I don't know what the reason is per se with Saratoga Springs, but that whole area, when you go into the Hudson River Valley and then up into Lake Champlain, there's a lot of cults.

01:21:16.440 There's a lot of then monasteries and or things that pop up on both sides of that valley, right, that runs from New York City all the way to Canada.

01:21:30.340 So who the hell knows?

01:21:33.040 Well, I mean, that's my, that was my speculation.

01:21:34.900 It's like, if Crowley saw fit to spend time in New York State and do some of his, I'm sure, what he would consider his most important works out there, then maybe there's something about, you know, you alluded to, like a ley line or something like that.

01:21:49.780 Yeah.

01:21:49.900 Could well be.

01:21:50.520 Something like that.

01:21:51.320 You never know.

01:21:52.280 New York State is a creepy place.

01:21:54.180 I wanted to ask you, what do you make of that idea that we talked about before that Donald Trump is.

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01:23:03.200 On the world stage, he's fighting with these deep staters, right?

01:23:07.980 And we within the community of conspiracy are comfortable with the idea that elements within this deep state are of these royal bloodlines, right?

01:23:17.980 Whether it's the Illuminati, which is kind of a broken and beat down terminology.

01:23:22.440 I mean, it is a group that historically did exist.

01:23:26.280 And I think like any group like the Masons or the OTO or the Illuminati, et cetera, there are degrees, pun intended, I suppose, where on the lower end, they don't know anything.

01:23:40.020 These are just people that are at the equivalency of an Elks Lodge to them, you know what I mean?

01:23:46.120 And then obviously, if you climb up this ladder, it gets more and more nefarious.

01:23:50.320 Some say that the upper echelons of these secret societies are for – once you reach them, you're now eligible to be a part of something else, right?

01:24:02.600 It's like almost like an initiation.

01:24:04.580 And so you do have that conjoining tissue there where Donald Trump's family comes from Bavaria, which is where the Illuminati escaped persecution from.

01:24:17.840 They were birthed in Bavaria, and the Illuminati famously is allegedly made up of 13 royal bloodlines.

01:24:25.780 And this theory has emerged that, yeah, we are watching this fight go on, but that does not make Trump a good guy.

01:24:35.180 And I'm kind of of that school of thought, right?

01:24:38.800 As human beings, we are so easily funneled into a binary.

01:24:44.140 Red, blue, yes, no, good guy, bad guy.

01:24:47.140 So if we look at the deep state as bad guys and Donald Trump is in contention with them, then he must be a good guy.

01:24:52.780 It's like I don't think that you have to jump to that conclusion.

01:24:54.780 So I find it compelling.

01:24:57.640 Do you put any stock in that sort of an idea?

01:24:59.960 Well, I kind of – there's so much predictive programming going on, right, that this absolutely could be part of that.

01:25:10.760 I mean, if you take it with this laconics of cult, in my opinion, just as we pertain to the book, the books and the Trump family, right?

01:25:25.460 I mean, it's kind of like – and the fact that it didn't come out until 2017, it was rediscovered by who knows what.

01:25:33.360 It's kind of like Bitcoin, you know.

01:25:35.080 You know, whatever his name is, brought it.

01:25:38.360 But nobody knows who that guy is, right?

01:25:40.420 So it could be intentionally – I think so much with Donald Trump is intentionally placed as like a form of foreshadowing or – and it could be by secret societies for sure.

01:25:57.000 You know, obviously, I head down that rabbit hole because I'm good at sticking my head into those things, you know, like an ostrich.

01:26:08.320 And then – but I haven't gone too deep into that because I want to be able to pull myself out.

01:26:16.680 And it's like that's kind of the whole idea of this podcast, right, Broadcasting Seeds.

01:26:23.020 So I get – I know enough in a lot of it just to be dangerous.

01:26:30.100 But I mean, what you're saying to me, I totally – I totally buy it.

01:26:37.680 Like if you said, oh, this is actually the story, I'd be like, of course it is.

01:26:41.960 Right.

01:26:42.280 Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me at all.

01:26:43.940 But that's the thing that I see right now as being a mistake that a lot of people are making.

01:26:48.080 It's like you see him fighting with these elements.

01:26:50.260 And that's a good thing ultimately because it's going to put us in a better place as a country.

01:26:53.840 Although I think that this theater is kind of reaching this climax and we're going to see some shit soon.

01:26:59.600 I mean, I really dug into a lot of stuff with this, like the Wharton connection.

01:27:06.620 Yeah, it's a big one.

01:27:07.880 I'm unfamiliar with that one.

01:27:09.220 So, I mean, it's a – there's a – it's that.

01:27:13.060 And I kind of forgot it because I discarded it.

01:27:16.240 It like came in and it went out because it wasn't –

01:27:19.900 I only – I lose – I retain about 10% of what I learned.

01:27:23.520 90% of it goes out the window.

01:27:24.940 So, there was a guy – God, I can't even remember it.

01:27:31.180 It's not enough for me to talk intelligently about it.

01:27:34.040 But it had to do with the name Wharton.

01:27:37.460 It was the last – you know, and the guy who started the Wharton School of Business where Donald Trump got his MBA, right?

01:27:44.220 Right.

01:27:44.680 Interesting.

01:27:45.640 There was a guy named Wharton who had something to do with these books.

01:27:51.200 I'm trying to remember what it was.

01:27:54.480 Damn it.

01:27:55.000 What was the guy – there's somebody that is Donald Trump's, like, mentor.

01:28:01.600 Oh, that's –

01:28:03.260 Roy Kahn.

01:28:04.420 Yeah, Roy Kahn.

01:28:05.460 And there was something significant about him.

01:28:07.280 That – well, Roy Kahn is a shadowy – that's one of those guys that's, like, behind – he's the guy that is behind the power, right?

01:28:20.460 He never really – oh, man.

01:28:24.480 I'm getting an article here from the BBC titled Roy Kahn, the mysterious U.S. lawyer who helped Donald Trump in his career.

01:28:34.180 So, he's kind of like this.

01:28:35.100 And then Donald Trump shit all over him, basically.

01:28:37.960 Roy Kahn, that's his name.

01:28:40.120 Yeah, and there was something about Roy Kahn's involvement in, like, a program or a society.

01:28:45.640 I forget exactly how it goes.

01:28:49.520 Man, it was maybe his religion.

01:28:52.360 Maybe that's what it was.

01:28:53.260 What Roy Kahn's – not denomination.

01:28:57.740 I forget what he was.

01:28:58.280 I mean, he did a lot of work with – god, who's the – who's the guy back in the – it's like J. Edgar Hoover days, but the McCarthy Commission.

01:29:11.660 That's it.

01:29:11.940 I have it right here.

01:29:12.600 With Joseph McCarthy.

01:29:13.560 Former clients, including Bill Bonanno, son of Joseph Bonanno, credit him with having compromising photographs of the former FBI director, J. Edgar Hoover.

01:29:27.660 He kind of comes off a little bit because he was connected to everybody as this, like, Epstein-ish type thing.

01:29:38.840 Yeah, this is somebody who's involved in sexual blackmail.

01:29:41.840 And he was a – I think he was a homosexual as well.

01:29:46.000 So, because his partner – god, what was that book?

01:29:51.700 His partner ended up saying – so Donald Trump, like, gifted Kahn some cufflinks or something at the end of his life.

01:30:03.220 And the partner came out a few years later, like, in the 80s, and said that they were fake.

01:30:11.420 And, you know, there's just all these – there's all this shit.

01:30:15.220 Apparently, even the X-Files has depicted Kahn in an episode called The Travelers, 1998.

01:30:23.880 So whatever was going on with Roy Kahn, that's somebody that deserves a deep dive in.

01:30:27.780 The X-Files saw fit to portray him in one way or another in an episode.

01:30:31.480 That's fascinating.

01:30:32.100 He also dated somebody in college.

01:30:38.440 Somebody famous, like, reporter famous, like, huge reporter.

01:30:42.960 Female, though.

01:30:44.880 Interesting.

01:30:45.760 What's her name?

01:30:47.660 I don't know.

01:30:48.500 I'm on the –

01:30:49.080 Barbara Walters.

01:30:50.300 Oh, really?

01:30:50.720 He dated Barbara Walters in college.

01:30:52.940 Oh, yeah.

01:30:53.260 There it is.

01:30:53.660 Yep.

01:30:54.380 That's odd.

01:30:55.940 But, I mean, there's –

01:31:00.860 he was a sexual deviant to an extent as well, from what I understand.

01:31:06.020 It's fascinating that he's got a mentor in this guy, and this is a dude that's associated with, you know,

01:31:12.600 a really early version of an Epstein sexual blackmail operation.

01:31:15.780 Do you guys know Heidi Love?

01:31:19.800 Yeah.

01:31:20.260 Heidi is actually – I think she's going to be on our Sunday episode of Sunday Share.

01:31:25.880 Ask her about Cone.

01:31:29.480 I've heard a lot about him, but retained nothing.

01:31:31.660 But she's got – she's got – I don't know if she has a whole presentation on it,

01:31:35.940 but she definitely has the connection – like, political connections, too,

01:31:40.440 but also to the Mormon church as well with him.

01:31:44.400 So, yeah.

01:31:45.380 Oh, we've got that whole thing you were talking – all right.

01:31:46.760 So, in 1984, Cone, or Cone, Cone, diagnosed with AIDS,

01:31:53.540 and he attempted to keep his condition secret while receiving the experimental drug treatment AZT.

01:31:58.560 AZT.

01:31:58.960 Right.

01:31:59.300 AZT, yeah.

01:32:00.240 And he dies.

01:32:01.620 He ends up dying of AIDS.

01:32:03.660 And then, yeah, if you go down here, one of the things that the IRS did not seize after he passed away

01:32:08.220 was a pair of knockoff diamond cufflinks given to him by Donald Trump.

01:32:13.360 Yeah.

01:32:14.100 So, yeah.

01:32:15.400 I mean, I'm sorry, but there's some shady shit going on with you.

01:32:19.780 If you started your career dealing with, like, J. Edgar Hoover and you ended up with, like, Donald Trump,

01:32:26.580 come on, bro.

01:32:27.420 Yeah.

01:32:27.600 There's some crazy shit from A to B there.

01:32:30.840 And then you died of AIDS.

01:32:32.040 And then you died of AIDS.

01:32:34.920 And dated Barbara Walters in college and all the fucking things, right?

01:32:39.720 Wow.

01:32:40.160 I mean, yeah.

01:32:42.160 Man.

01:32:42.360 I, so at the very least, regardless of what Donald Trump represents in all of this shit

01:32:49.160 with these books and whatnot, some of his business associates, as we know, and it's

01:32:55.300 not like Kahn was a, Kahn was a, was like a, you know, some, some like passing thing.

01:33:02.760 Like he was in it with him.

01:33:04.920 So, I mean, he was a very influential figure in his life.

01:33:09.560 So, yeah, man.

01:33:13.060 It's yeah.

01:33:13.640 The rabbit hole with these people is never ending.

01:33:16.280 You can continue to dig.

01:33:17.740 It's like, I feel like what we've done with this episode is like, we were like, let's talk

01:33:20.940 about the Ingersoll Lockwood books.

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01:34:24.100 Upon so many different trails, I wonder if the trails are meant to confuse or mislead you

01:34:32.580 or if things just get messy after a while.

01:34:35.740 And that's the other side of this.

01:34:37.640 Like I brought up that I thought, you know, what I think these books are.

01:34:41.440 And I also think they're just a giant fucking distraction to get people looking over here,

01:34:47.560 you know, shining object syndrome.

01:34:49.040 And I think if you probably figured it out, maybe, and this is just my conjecture, is that

01:34:58.360 the QAnon movement somehow found this shit, figured it out.

01:35:06.780 Or maybe, I don't know.

01:35:09.100 Somebody dug deep and found this shit and went, oh, we can use this.

01:35:13.200 So it's psychological operations.

01:35:15.620 I, you know, like I said, I spent plenty of time in the military and special operations.

01:35:22.660 And this is shit that we would do.

01:35:26.380 You know, I'm not, I'm not a fed anymore.

01:35:30.600 But at the end of the day, yeah, no shit, right?

01:35:33.720 I got out of it and now I'm my own boss.

01:35:36.080 But at the end of the day, I mean, I still have ties to certain things because of contracts

01:35:43.640 and whatnot.

01:35:45.940 But at the end of the day, you don't go into doing what we're doing now and looking to get

01:35:55.440 richer, looking to, you know, make friends because I'm sure it's hell not.

01:35:59.980 So, yeah, I've been told by quite a few people that, you know, basically what I'm doing is

01:36:05.980 not conducive to making money.

01:36:07.800 And I was like, well, we'll figure that out later.

01:36:10.520 Well, at the end of the day, too, I'm, I'm, you're probably similar in the fact that I,

01:36:16.160 I didn't.

01:36:17.200 So I've been in the podcast game for about 10 years total since 2014.

01:36:23.380 And I, you know, would do like veteran entrepreneurial podcasts plus, you know, other things, um, two

01:36:33.160 of those podcasts and whatnot, which still live on YouTube.

01:36:35.760 But at the end of the day, um, I, I'm driven to do this.

01:36:43.940 Like it's, it's as though I was called cause I'm, I'm a Christian at the end of the day.

01:36:49.560 And something woke up in me one day and was like, you need to dig into this shit.

01:36:55.920 Right.

01:36:57.140 And that's what I'm doing.

01:36:58.920 And it's not just conspiracies.

01:37:00.280 It's everything I do.

01:37:02.160 I go through the whole cryptid, you know, game with Bigfoot, like get Bigfoot was my gateway

01:37:08.440 drug into this whole thing back when I was like 12 and, and, or, uh, Norris mythology.

01:37:16.300 I, for some reason I was huge.

01:37:18.240 I just loved it when I was young.

01:37:20.160 And, and so I'm, you know, consistently, uh, ADD with this shit, man.

01:37:28.560 Um, and, and I just write down, I have, I have books of just notes because otherwise

01:37:35.080 I'll forget all that shit.

01:37:36.720 Have you had any experiences, any, uh, cryptid experiences living out there?

01:37:41.040 Yeah.

01:37:41.300 Yeah.

01:37:41.600 Um, I've had, um, re well, all right.

01:37:45.420 So they're not like direct sightings, but I did see silhouettes twice.

01:37:50.260 Um, one was when I was on mission doing drug interdiction missions, uh, or, or the military,

01:37:58.660 uh, up in Alaska.

01:38:00.120 And then another time was when I was young, uh, uh, uh, that was my first experience.

01:38:07.080 I was in the boy Scouts and we, um, I, uh, the way I like to say it is that we got bluff

01:38:14.200 charged by something and it was gigantic and terrifying.

01:38:18.960 It was me and two other kids, but then the same type of incident happened in, in Alaska

01:38:25.480 in a national forest, um, where the cartels get up in there and on national forest land

01:38:31.960 and they grow weed, or at least back in the nineties, they would, yeah, all the way up

01:38:36.340 in Alaska.

01:38:36.700 Cause you got to think during the summer, it's a 24 hour growing cycle because it, the sun

01:38:42.080 never really goes down.

01:38:43.360 Right.

01:38:45.160 And it does get decently warm, you know?

01:38:48.540 I mean, it's not like, you know, summer, but it's, it's warm enough to, if you fertilize

01:38:53.440 and do the shit right, it you'll grow weed.

01:38:56.560 We did some of that stuff in California too, where we definitely had, uh, rocks being thrown

01:39:03.040 at us, um, by something.

01:39:06.460 So that would have been upstate California.

01:39:08.740 Cause I hear that a lot.

01:39:10.000 No, it was, um, actually it was in what's called the lost pot.

01:39:13.360 Hadres national forest.

01:39:15.420 Um, and we were staying on Vandenberg air force base, which is a shady ass place.

01:39:20.300 Interesting.

01:39:21.160 So you got national forest and military base.

01:39:24.020 Yes.

01:39:24.660 So, uh, but we were part, we, we were in the Marine Corps.

01:39:28.400 So we had Marines doing the, on the ground work you had, um,

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01:40:33.600 The Air Force or the Army provided helicopters and pilots and the Air Force provided the billeting

01:40:40.480 in where we stayed and ate.

01:40:43.540 And it's part of what's called, which still exists as part of Joint Task Force 6.

01:40:48.600 Who knew I'd go down this fucking rabbit hole?

01:40:50.640 Um, but it was part of Joint Task Force 6, which still, if you Google it, it's still part

01:40:56.920 of what's called Northcom now.

01:40:58.660 And it's frankly, uh, borderline posse comatitis shit going on there.

01:41:05.600 Um, because we were, um, aiding local and federal law enforcement and going in and burning

01:41:16.660 down pot plants and all this and mobile math labs.

01:41:20.720 Oh, you were doing that?

01:41:21.400 You were burning down pot fields?

01:41:22.820 Yeah.

01:41:23.180 And mobile math labs.

01:41:24.860 So we dealt, we dealt with some of that shit.

01:41:27.240 So it was like straight out of an episode of Breaking Bad.

01:41:29.960 Oh, that's fucking crazy.

01:41:31.760 So that's wild.

01:41:33.800 Um, so yeah, so we were doing that and in, in amongst all that shit, we get these two separate

01:41:41.820 cryptid type encounters.

01:41:43.440 Um, and then since then I've become, I guess you would call it a Bigfoot researcher and I've

01:41:51.140 done a bunch of stuff in national forest.

01:41:54.040 Yeah.

01:41:56.080 Through, um, up in national forests, which are shady as freaking hell.

01:42:01.840 That's a whole nother episode though.

01:42:04.080 Um, and actually I did an episode with your guys, you know, him as well as Brad Lail.

01:42:10.140 Oh yeah.

01:42:11.120 About, uh, the awakened podcast.

01:42:13.440 Yeah.

01:42:14.140 Um, about national forests and just like fucking stairways that go to nowhere and all this

01:42:20.340 stuff.

01:42:20.920 Yeah.

01:42:21.280 So we heard a story recently that was really exciting.

01:42:23.840 Yeah, I was going to bring it up, David.

01:42:24.840 Go ahead and tell the story.

01:42:26.100 Uh, so, so basically this was just somebody that was talking about, uh, finding a stairway

01:42:30.620 in the middle of, uh, Kentucky.

01:42:33.280 I think it was a national forest and it was right near Mammoth Cave.

01:42:37.460 Oh, I'm sure.

01:42:38.740 Yeah.

01:42:39.240 Yeah.

01:42:39.540 Yeah.

01:42:39.640 And so I think, um, after this guy, uh, climbed to the top of this stairwell and he's out there

01:42:46.500 with his kids and he's, he's just kind of having fun, right?

01:42:48.500 I mean, what the hell you, I would be so hard pressed dude to not, I mean, knowing what

01:42:53.580 I know now, I wouldn't do it.

01:42:55.200 But if I was out in the forest and I saw it, I'd be like, Oh shit, I gotta climb this.

01:42:58.740 Um, and so, um, I think he starts dealing with, uh, with schizophrenia afterwards, um, you

01:43:05.000 know, which we believe is, uh, is, is, is demonic oppression or influence.

01:43:08.980 Oh, I have a story about that shit too.

01:43:10.660 So, but I mean, that's just the end of the story.

01:43:12.020 He, he ends up carrying this thing with him, but it's, it's interesting because, um, Mammoth

01:43:16.240 Cave system connects to all of this massive cave system that stretches through the Appalachias

01:43:21.800 and then it heads West into like, uh, Indiana, Illinois and such.

01:43:25.080 And it's, it is the topic of a subject that we are, um, diving into.

01:43:33.460 And it's this idea that there are a fair amount of testimonies coming out of this area, specifically

01:43:38.900 Southern Indiana, where these people are interacting with, uh, some sort of entity that is claiming

01:43:44.320 to be ball or Lord.

01:43:46.120 It seems to be underground.

01:43:47.660 So the Lord of the underworld, um, and he's recruiting them in a dreamscape kind of a situation,

01:43:52.940 but these people are into his fucking throne room.

01:43:56.340 Exactly.

01:43:56.940 Exactly.

01:43:57.520 So, um, to me, when you go like, yeah, I found a stairwell in the, in the forest, uh, in Kentucky

01:44:04.900 near Mammoth Cave.

01:44:06.240 And I climbed to the top of it.

01:44:07.440 Now I'm hearing voices.

01:44:08.240 I'm like, yeah, dog, you probably should have done that.

01:44:10.160 That's about the area that, uh, that all of this is concentrated.

01:44:13.420 And so fascinating, whatever the hell's going on over there.

01:44:16.080 So I worked, uh, so military, uh, Marine Corps, then I was in the army.

01:44:24.820 It's, it's all a fucking story, but I went from the Marine Corps, got out was a cop, not

01:44:30.680 built to be a fucking cop.

01:44:32.200 Then I went to the army.

01:44:34.480 Uh, like I said, I was stationed here in New York where I met my wife and all the shit

01:44:40.500 has gone down.

01:44:41.600 And then I got out of that and I, I became an air force civilian work and anti-terrorism

01:44:48.400 work.

01:44:49.160 Um, after that though, I got to a point where I just couldn't carry a fucking gun anymore.

01:44:56.620 Couldn't do it for a living.

01:44:57.720 I just couldn't.

01:44:58.660 Now that doesn't mean I don't carry a gun as on a personal level, but for a job, I just

01:45:03.720 couldn't do that shit anymore.

01:45:04.940 So I went and started working for the VA and I became a peer support specialist, which

01:45:11.120 is just a low level mental health worker.

01:45:14.220 Well, after I worked like in, uh, um, vocational rehab and some shit like that, I moved over

01:45:23.160 to a, an area called the psychosocial rehab and rehabilitate or rehabilitation and recovery

01:45:31.040 center, which I'm dealing with the worst of the worst, uh, mental illness in the military.

01:45:37.420 And it's all schizophrenics, bipolar one, bipolar two, uh, all, you know, you name it,

01:45:44.220 it's there.

01:45:44.900 Right.

01:45:45.600 And I'm telling you unequivocally because who's the guy that Jerry Marzinski, is that who it

01:45:51.180 is?

01:45:51.480 That's it.

01:45:51.960 Dr.

01:45:52.240 Marzinski.

01:45:52.940 He has hit the nail on the head with this shit.

01:45:56.100 Cause I'm telling you, there's plenty of folks, mainly schizophrenics.

01:46:01.880 They would not come into my office because I had religious paraphernalia in there.

01:46:06.800 They would not step foot into my fricking office.

01:46:10.820 Have you ever heard the way that the medical industry dismisses that?

01:46:13.080 It's just like, well, it's, it's delusions and it's hallucinations.

01:46:16.080 So of course the delusions and hallucinations are going to be relevant to whatever the dichotomy

01:46:20.880 that the person who's subjected to them is under.

01:46:23.380 And so if they happen to have religious proclivities, then of course, you know, and I'm like, it's

01:46:27.480 so much easier to just be like, these are demons, dog.

01:46:29.380 I mean, let's be honest.

01:46:30.500 It's all kind of a pseudoscience anyway.

01:46:32.640 They won't admit it, but it really is.

01:46:34.920 Well, it's all based off of a unverifiable chemical imbalance in the brain.

01:46:38.860 Right.

01:46:39.380 So at the end of the day, how is it that this medication supposedly makes it better, but yet

01:46:44.720 it doesn't.

01:46:45.400 Right.

01:46:45.720 So fuck off.

01:46:48.220 Anyway.

01:46:48.700 Um, so I totally believe in that shit, um, that it's a, it's demonic possession, maybe

01:46:56.560 not all the time, but a lot of the time there's just shady and these people that they do and

01:47:03.780 come up with some shit that just like humans aren't, they shouldn't be capable of.

01:47:09.480 So just saying, yeah, yeah.

01:47:12.000 I don't know where the fuck I was going with that, but.

01:47:14.020 No, I mean, you know, this is what happens often is, is when you touch on these subjects,

01:47:18.760 they all interconnect, which is funny because they're either outright dismissed by the average

01:47:24.200 person or they are, you're dissuaded from looking at them by let's, let's say like the

01:47:29.480 medical apparatus or the, the, um, the intellectual institutions, right?

01:47:34.560 Like the, our school systems and things like they don't promote looking at these sorts of

01:47:38.920 things.

01:47:39.240 And it's funny because the very things that they dissuade you from looking at all connect,

01:47:43.380 which is why these conversations all always end up branching off into the craziest shit.

01:47:47.900 Exactly.

01:47:48.480 Which I'm just a big proponent of the fact that, um, in the saying goes, you know, history

01:47:53.340 doesn't repeat itself.

01:47:55.140 It rhymes.

01:47:56.600 Yes.

01:47:57.440 You said earlier that part of the reason you suspect this is happening is because of the

01:48:02.680 nature of history rhyming.

01:48:04.140 It almost does feel like it's, yeah, it's fractal.

01:48:06.920 It's like corkscrewing up and down.

01:48:09.240 And when you make a revolution, you're going to, you're not going to pass over the same

01:48:13.540 spot.

01:48:14.020 You're going to be in a different place, maybe a little bit higher, but it's going to

01:48:17.360 look a lot like the, the level before or the, you know, the, and let's be honest.

01:48:22.000 I mean, we're human nature is to connect dots.

01:48:26.840 Yes.

01:48:27.380 And, and, and so that when you start taking shit like this seriously and start looking,

01:48:33.420 you're going to be able to connect all those dots.

01:48:35.860 Right.

01:48:36.400 And, and on that topic too, um, there are people who look at what we do as a negative

01:48:43.660 thing in the sense of the toll that it takes on your psychology, you know, or they'll accuse

01:48:48.520 you of blackpilling.

01:48:49.360 It's like, I don't know about you, but the more I look at these things, the more, um,

01:48:54.600 I'm solidified in my opinion that, that God is real, uh, that this experience is special,

01:49:00.200 that the spiritual realm is real.

01:49:02.460 Um, and the more you go down that path, the more I, I arrive at a place where when I look

01:49:08.200 at the Bible and it tells you however many times, hundreds of times to fear not, I get

01:49:12.380 it.

01:49:12.920 I get it because this is not something to be afraid of.

01:49:16.180 If anything, it should, uh, it should bring you almost joy.

01:49:20.780 It kind of does bring me joy because it's constantly evidence.

01:49:23.640 It's, it's, it's breadcrumbs and fingerprints that God leaves.

01:49:27.660 Yeah, absolutely.

01:49:29.080 I mean, like I said, I wouldn't be doing this stuff if it wasn't for God.

01:49:32.900 I mean, man, I, even this morning, for example, I get woken up out of a dead sleep between three

01:49:39.440 and four every fucking morning.

01:49:42.120 Um, so like this morning I got woken up at three 33.

01:49:46.760 It's literally like a scene out of fucking the exorcist show.

01:49:52.100 What is that?

01:49:52.900 The, the exorcism of Emily Rose, you know, but I'm not getting attacked by demons or, or

01:49:58.880 whatever.

01:49:59.440 But at the end of the day, I, I get up now and I pray because there's, there's, there's

01:50:04.840 nature, there's evidence behind that too, is being what's called the fourth watch.

01:50:10.820 And that's when the veil is very thin and you, you know, I, I have certain prayers that

01:50:18.580 I say at that time.

01:50:19.960 And, um, I'll tell you what, I'm, I don't, I don't deal with a lot of bullshit anymore.

01:50:25.280 Um, from the outside because I'm asking for freaking, I mean, cause the, the, the shit

01:50:31.000 I'm digging through and whatnot, man, I, I started, sorry, if you'll allow me to tell

01:50:38.540 you, um, dealing with fucking Lilla.

01:50:42.200 Oh, interesting.

01:50:43.460 Dude, we gotta have you, we have to have you back on specifically for this.

01:50:47.080 I feel like it was a waste talking about fucking Donald Trump.

01:50:50.180 Well, I mean, yes and no, but it's one of those things.

01:50:53.560 Like I would like to put a pin in the shit.

01:50:55.840 I mean, I'm making money off YouTube.

01:50:57.960 I'm not going to lie.

01:50:58.900 Bottom line.

01:51:00.140 But it's like one of my worst fucking episodes.

01:51:02.440 So what the fuck does that say to you?

01:51:04.480 What a Lilith episode?

01:51:06.160 No, no.

01:51:06.980 The, the Ingersoll Lockwood episode.

01:51:08.980 I think it's one of my worst episodes.

01:51:11.320 If you listen to it, it's all like riddled with arc, you know, just bullshit.

01:51:16.180 And, and, and I, it was not a good script that I wrote.

01:51:19.240 It was nonsense.

01:51:20.380 I just kept looping.

01:51:21.960 Right.

01:51:22.240 And because, because there's not that much meat on this bone.

01:51:26.660 Bottom line.

01:51:26.700 And it also, there's no exit.

01:51:28.200 There's no like, and here's the definitive point.

01:51:31.160 That's what it really is.

01:51:32.180 And that really pisses people off.

01:51:33.280 It really does.

01:51:34.160 Because I get so much hate on freaking YouTube about it.

01:51:37.280 It's like, what are we doing?

01:51:38.120 We're not here to bring you answers.

01:51:40.700 We're here to present you questions.

01:51:42.820 So, yes.

01:51:45.100 Yeah.

01:51:45.280 Correct.

01:51:46.040 So either way.

01:51:46.780 Tell us a little, little thing.

01:51:47.740 Okay.

01:51:48.080 I got to know.

01:51:48.460 So I am literally watching.

01:51:50.880 Um, so I was working on, uh, research for, I can't remember what show, but I had YouTube

01:51:58.960 on in the background and it was, it was now it could have been like impressed upon me because

01:52:04.640 I was watching the confessionals, um, and it was an episode with shit.

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01:53:10.980 I think it's Jason from Appalachian intelligence.

01:53:14.860 And he is, was talking about Lilith and I was like, what the fuck?

01:53:21.000 But here's the thing.

01:53:22.080 I wasn't watching that when I fell asleep, I fell asleep on the couch.

01:53:25.980 But when I woke up, that's the episode that was on.

01:53:28.900 Cause you know, YouTube will cycle.

01:53:30.360 Um, to the next thing.

01:53:32.960 So I can't remember, but it was the confessionals when I woke up though, there's, uh, this episode

01:53:38.860 with Lilith right now.

01:53:40.480 I, you know, I had a fucked up childhood abuse, all these things.

01:53:44.940 And I've had a really weird relationship with women my entire life.

01:53:48.620 Um, not like just, you know, not the best single mother, you know, all the shit, all the shit

01:53:57.960 that happens when you don't have a father involved in your life.

01:54:00.900 Right.

01:54:01.440 Let's, let's, you guys kind of probably can figure out what I'm talking about.

01:54:05.440 So at the end of the day, this pops on and I hear out of the, all of a sudden I get up

01:54:18.180 and I'm like, I'm going to, it's right around midnight and I'm like going to grab water and

01:54:24.260 then I'm going to go to bed.

01:54:25.400 Well, where I live, we have like a, I live in the suburbs, but we have big open space behind

01:54:34.140 our house and it's all woods.

01:54:36.820 And I've lived here about four, five years now.

01:54:40.380 And not once have I ever fucking heard an owl who, but I get in front of the door out to

01:54:49.980 this deck where it's just woods behind us.

01:54:52.420 And I hear this, I'll start hooting.

01:54:55.100 And for some reason, something in me clicked that this was Lilith or this was a whatever.

01:55:02.220 So I kept running out the door onto my deck and I start rebuking this thing.

01:55:07.200 Well, as soon as I did that, it fucking lost its mind and literally was screeching and scream.

01:55:16.600 It sounded like, like something screaming, scared the shit out of me.

01:55:23.120 Um, but I kept rebuking it and you could feel, I could feel it.

01:55:27.100 Now I had a near death experience when I was in the Marines and ever since then, I've been

01:55:32.940 very sensitive to things.

01:55:36.120 I also see auras on people.

01:55:39.860 I'm going to tell you guys that most people think I'm fucking crazy, but whatever.

01:55:44.940 Oh, you're not the first person to tell us.

01:55:46.700 No, exactly.

01:55:47.360 So, so at the end of the day, I can feel this thing retreating and then calmly, I went

01:55:53.620 back and said the Lord's prayer, all the shit.

01:55:57.700 And then I went to bed.

01:55:59.280 Well, I woke up, I got woken up that night at, um, three 49 AM to literally, I feel like

01:56:13.240 being sexually assaulted in my fucking dreams by this Lilith look at, it literally looked

01:56:20.420 like the girl from the ring.

01:56:22.640 Hmm.

01:56:23.340 You know what I'm talking about?

01:56:24.540 That, that, that wearing a white, like a white chef though.

01:56:29.580 Um, and literally now this is a theme throughout my life where I've been, it's kind of a recurring

01:56:38.320 dream that's happened right throughout probably my adult life.

01:56:43.300 Um, and I don't know what to think of it.

01:56:45.460 And I, you know, I haven't analyzed that much of it, but I know that this is Lilith.

01:56:51.440 I just know it.

01:56:52.900 Uh, I can feel it.

01:56:54.060 I wake up and, uh, I rebuke the whole thing.

01:56:59.980 I bless like my, I bless like my whole house at this point.

01:57:06.220 Right.

01:57:07.040 Um, but then I go downstairs again, uh, to grab more water.

01:57:12.420 And don't I fucking hear this, I'll start hooting again in the middle of the night.

01:57:19.360 Right.

01:57:20.080 Just fucking crazy.

01:57:21.360 Oh, wait, left out.

01:57:23.480 Fuck.

01:57:23.920 I left a very important part out.

01:57:27.220 So that wasn't the next night.

01:57:29.200 There wasn't the same night that was two nights later, but the morning after the first incident,

01:57:35.280 right, go back everyone.

01:57:37.400 I'm sorry.

01:57:37.820 Rewind.

01:57:39.200 Um, I have a smoker, uh, cause I like to smoke meat.

01:57:44.140 Right.

01:57:45.200 Nice.

01:57:45.840 And, uh, either way I had smoked meat that day and I left the, cause you know, you gotta

01:57:51.880 let the thing cool down.

01:57:53.100 And I went out in the morning at eight in the morning, bright as shit sun's out, uh, putting

01:57:59.160 the smoker back on.

01:58:01.580 I'm listening to the rest of that episode on my phone.

01:58:06.100 So, you know, you have the speaker going on the phone and I put it down on, I have a black

01:58:11.380 stone back there too, that I set it on and I'm listening to it and I hear the fucking

01:58:16.380 owl hoot at eight 30 in the morning.

01:58:18.840 So like, here I am motherfucker.

01:58:21.700 I'm not gone.

01:58:22.760 They're nocturnal though.

01:58:23.700 That's it.

01:58:24.080 That exactly.

01:58:25.180 So I kind of lost my shit.

01:58:27.040 I was like, Oh, you motherfucker.

01:58:29.500 And, um, you know, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm not, but I'm, I'm feeling militant at this

01:58:35.860 point.

01:58:36.240 Like I'm going to fucking go to spiritual war with this owl.

01:58:41.340 And right.

01:58:43.000 Get rid of this owl, dude.

01:58:44.200 So then that two nights later, that's when I, the sexual assault from Lilith, that's

01:58:51.360 not a, that's what I'll call it.

01:58:52.580 Even a little bit, dude.

01:58:53.540 No.

01:58:53.800 I mean, that's all feels so connected.

01:58:56.020 Oh, dude.

01:58:56.860 And then I went down downstairs again and I hear it fucking hoot again.

01:59:02.600 So I heard the, the owl, this is the third time in two days, three days.

01:59:08.080 And so I did the rebuking part again, the very same response, like just like pissed off

01:59:15.240 and whatever.

01:59:15.940 And from that point on, I like anointed my house and, um, I, I went, were you, when you

01:59:22.820 were rebuking it, were you screaming into the woods or were you just like rebuking it?

01:59:26.260 Like, no, I was yelling into the woods.

01:59:28.960 Okay.

01:59:30.600 Neighbors are all like, what the shit is going on, man?

01:59:33.400 I don't care.

01:59:34.340 But you know, they're used to weird shit happening over here anyway.

01:59:38.440 So dude brings a smoked meat.

01:59:40.100 Sometimes it's delicious, but also screams on his porch at 3.30.

01:59:45.440 I pay him off with freaking smoked meat.

01:59:48.720 Honestly, I'm willing, I'm, there's a lot that I'm willing to allow my neighbors to do.

01:59:52.560 If they bring me smoked meat, there's a lot that I'm allowing them to, to, to do.

01:59:57.020 So, um, yeah.

01:59:59.340 So then I literally go in, um, I dive deep into the spiritual side of all this and because

02:00:08.320 I was, I'm a Christian, but I, you know, it's like a fake ass religious part of it.

02:00:13.820 Like I, I never really went all in on the supernatural stuff and all the things and

02:00:18.900 until it happens to you.

02:00:21.080 Yeah.

02:00:21.760 So, and then it did.

02:00:23.580 And so I really started digging into where I had opened doors, like where, you know what

02:00:30.500 I mean?

02:00:31.140 And David, I know you've had this shit go down.

02:00:34.840 And so I, I went through and I took a, you know, I literally took a, uh, inventory of

02:00:42.500 my life and all the fucked up shit that I had done and all the things and ask for forgiveness

02:00:48.120 and ask for, um, you know, all the things.

02:00:51.320 And then I did, uh, went through a couple rounds of prayers to like, you know, I, at one point

02:00:57.760 I was a Mason, you know, I went through like the first degree of Masonry that's opening doors

02:01:03.380 like crazy, you know?

02:01:04.740 And, and, and you're pledging yourself to fucked up shit.

02:01:09.020 So, um, I shut all those doors.

02:01:12.160 And ever since I did all that stuff and I did a, basically like a Lilith, a, you know,

02:01:19.620 cleansing, I guess is what you would say.

02:01:21.740 Prayer talks.

02:01:22.460 And since then, since then nothing, and I don't have, okay.

02:01:30.300 So with all this being said, I got woken up at three 49.

02:01:34.960 So I even dug into what that is.

02:01:37.100 And that's, if you read the Bible, um, three Genesis three for nine, it's kind of crazy.

02:01:52.460 Sorry.

02:02:01.180 Get it.

02:02:01.960 I'm, I'm pulling it up right now as well.

02:02:03.720 Let's see what that says.

02:02:11.520 What was it?

02:02:12.320 Genesis three, four, nine.

02:02:14.380 Genesis three versus four through nine.

02:02:17.380 Uh, and the serpent said unto the woman, ye shall not surely die for God doth know

02:02:22.440 that in the day ye eat thereof, uh, then your eyes shall be open and ye shall be as

02:02:27.900 gods knowing good and evil.

02:02:29.540 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food and that it was pleasant to, to the

02:02:35.160 eyes and the tree was, uh, to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof

02:02:40.120 and did eat and gave also unto her husband with her.

02:02:43.520 And he did eat and the eyes of them both were open and they knew that they were naked and

02:02:49.520 they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves aprons.

02:02:53.020 And they heard a voice of the Lord God walk in the garden in the cool of day and Adam and

02:02:57.940 his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.

02:03:02.480 And the Lord God called him to Adam and said, where art thou art thou?

02:03:06.720 And this is the, this is the story of original sin.

02:03:09.580 Yeah.

02:03:09.780 And it's the, you know, female empowerment, all the things, right.

02:03:13.900 Um, to the extent.

02:03:15.500 Well, so I went through this shit, um, and I had a conversation.

02:03:19.480 Well, you guys know him, uh, Doc Brown.

02:03:23.660 Um, and his shit blew my mind.

02:03:26.880 I also talked to Ed about this stuff too, and they have kind of contradictory things,

02:03:31.060 but either way, the fact that, that this verse was part of that whole experience kind

02:03:37.320 of, I don't know, made my head explode a little bit.

02:03:41.480 And, um, to me is that's like when God has a way of, of like talking to you and nudging

02:03:46.360 you and it's, he's like, he's, he's not very loud.

02:03:49.980 Like he'll say things and if you're paying attention, then you get to see them.

02:03:54.980 So then I started really paying attention.

02:03:57.180 And since I've done that, it's crazy.

02:04:00.900 Well, I'd love to, to have you back on and talk about this whole, because I'm sure when

02:04:06.220 something like that happens to you, you start digging, you know, like what the hell is this?

02:04:10.060 Right.

02:04:10.280 To, to understand that symbolism between the owl and Lilith and all these different things.

02:04:14.260 And, and, and, uh, yeah, I wrote, I wrote an article.

02:04:17.280 Well, actually I did a podcast episode on it as well, but that was like way better to

02:04:21.760 me than this Ingersoll Lockwood bullshit.

02:04:23.860 Well, I mean, I'm glad that we talked about the Ingersoll Lockwood because it's, um, it's

02:04:28.560 something that comes up constantly in this conversation, but you know, there are nuances

02:04:32.760 that need to be hashed out and I'm glad that we did this, but we'd love to have you back

02:04:35.880 to talk about some of those more spiritual experiences.

02:04:38.700 Um, because that's kind of our bread and butter.

02:04:40.400 Yeah.

02:04:40.560 We, we actually have, uh, we have Austin Picard literally waiting in the next room.

02:04:45.040 We have, uh, scheduled ourselves into oblivion.

02:04:47.900 We're, we're back at 12 noon and then we have another show at 2 PM because we're retarded.

02:04:52.940 So we're running, this is a whole, whole day of shows here.

02:04:56.660 So if you're a fan of the show, I mean, good for you.

02:04:58.880 If you're doing the show, fuck me, I guess.

02:05:01.380 It's a suck fest.

02:05:01.820 Cause before you, I was interviewing Justin England from, uh, Cryptids of the Corn.

02:05:06.960 Oh, we love, uh, Justin.

02:05:08.780 I want to get him back on.

02:05:10.200 Yeah.

02:05:10.440 We got him back on soon.

02:05:11.640 And, and later today I've got three episodes, five, seven, nine.

02:05:17.180 I get it.

02:05:17.820 I get it.

02:05:18.200 There you go, man.

02:05:18.960 You got to get into it.

02:05:20.180 The, uh, the struggle is real.

02:05:22.620 The people need to know.

02:05:23.840 The people need to know.

02:05:24.840 We don't have answers for you to know, but we have questions.

02:05:27.240 The people need to be.

02:05:28.440 I'm just going to plant these seeds in your fucking mind.

02:05:31.180 That's it.

02:05:31.560 That's it.

02:05:32.060 Um, all right.

02:05:32.660 So one more time, uh, Bennett is a wonderful conversation.

02:05:35.280 We appreciate you being on the show.

02:05:36.960 Where can people find you?

02:05:39.280 Um, at broadcasting seeds, uh, you can just put it into the Google machine and it'll take

02:05:45.400 you anywhere.

02:05:46.220 I mean, broadcasting seeds.com is going to take you to my, uh, pod bean page there, which

02:05:52.680 I fucking hate and I'm changing it.

02:05:54.600 But either way, um, uh, their YouTube rumble, all the places.

02:06:00.920 So awesome.

02:06:02.640 Awesome.

02:06:02.720 Awesome guys go and support, uh, Bennett and his work.

02:06:06.060 If you enjoyed what you, uh, heard here today.

02:06:08.760 And, uh, I guess that's it.

02:06:11.300 Do we have anything else?

02:06:12.040 Uh, top until we see you in five minutes, uh, four minutes.

02:06:16.300 Don't forget.

02:06:16.500 Yes.

02:06:17.020 Don't forget to obey, submit, and comply.

02:06:19.100 I'll see you guys in a bit.

02:06:21.200 Bye.

02:06:21.500 Bye.

02:06:21.760 Bye.

02:06:22.440 The great epitaphist on planet earth is a top-long box in the corner of the room.

02:06:28.260 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

02:06:32.000 If you can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see, you

02:06:37.260 got them.

02:06:37.560 Because they'll lack in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's

02:06:44.120 happening.

02:06:45.240 And they have.

02:06:52.900 Bye.

02:06:53.900 Bye.

02:06:55.840 Bye.

02:06:56.040 Bye.

02:06:56.060 Bye.

02:06:56.100 Bye.

02:06:56.160 Bye.

02:06:56.180 Bye.

02:06:56.260 Bye.

02:06:56.380 Bye.

02:06:56.480 Bye.

02:06:56.700 Bye.

02:06:56.820 Bye.

02:06:57.220 Bye.

02:06:57.240 Bye.

02:06:57.280 Bye.

02:06:57.560 Bye.

02:06:57.700 Bye.

02:06:57.740 Bye.

Nephilim Death Squad - February 11, 2025

119： Ingersoll Lockwood and The Adventures of Little Baron Trump w⧸ Broadcasting Seeds

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