122: Near-Death, Psychedelics & The Great Unknown w⧸ Meta Mysteries
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It's another episode of "Nephilim" and this time, we're talking about a song that's been playing over and over again. It's a banger, and it's still good, so why not give it a listen?
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim.
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I love the song, but after like three times in a day, I'm listening to it and I'm trying...
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Getting into today's guest, we are joined by Jonathan and Sean.
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Guys, if you would, for the audience who might not be familiar with you,
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why don't you introduce yourselves and tell everybody where they can find you.
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But I also have another podcast that dives into a lot of the more spiritual kind of things.
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And that is basically all the esoteric, all of the kind of we get into some occult kind of stuff and spiritual stuff,
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And she was one of those people that, you know, you watch enough videos, you listen to her talk enough times.
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It's going to start to blow your mind and almost lead you to question your own reality.
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We're just trying to understand the reality that we live in.
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I'm looking at this damn place like it's a matrix, some kind of realm.
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Why people are able to tap into their past lives.
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Why people are able to meditate and go into some wild realm.
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What happens to you whenever you're on DMT or mushrooms or any of that kind of shit?
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Like, is that a place or is that a figment of your imagination?
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I would actually, I would suggest that they're probably a little bit in the same.
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So, yeah, that's what we're going to be getting into today.
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A little bit of near-death experiences, some past life regression stuff.
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And we're kind of, we always say that we're not teachers on any of this kind of stuff.
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How'd you get wrapped up with this guy besides being blood-related to him?
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So, basically, you know, I've just come to understand that the world or realm, as Jonathan put it,
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is not what I completely believed it to be, you know?
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And I believe through different experiences called mystical experiences, spiritual experiences, religious, whatever you want to call it,
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I feel like these experiences kind of shape how we navigate and see the world, you know?
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And I feel like that's, for us anyways, it seems to always be evolving, you know?
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And so, based on how you look, what lens you have and what you're looking at, you know, that's going to just shape your experience.
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And another thing that we've really come to understand is that we are able to, not control, but kind of direct how we experience certain things.
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Surely things are going to happen to us, you know?
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But it's a matter of how we decide to let it affect us, you know what I mean?
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And so, yeah, man, we just kind of cover everything that we can and really just following our own curiosities.
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I got a question because we kind of, you kind of like ran through some stuff here.
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Has, so when you were at Brogrove this last year and you went on your DMT trip, has that affected or changed the way you view anything?
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Like, because you've been on this journey for a while.
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Has this affected your outlook on things as of, you know, recent?
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I mean, that DMT trip that I had taken while we were in Florida for the Bohemian Grove, that was insane.
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The first time I did it, and I'm not a doctor, so don't listen to me on certain, you know, measurings here.
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But whenever I did it the first time, I did, it was, like, 20 micrograms or milligrams of DMT, which is, I guess, the standard, like, regular amount for, you know, just a regular DMT trip.
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It was so amazing, like, the things that I was able to feel and see.
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I mean, you were talking about, like, an absolute euphoric feeling, like, the best feeling I've ever had in my life.
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Like, it's almost like you're connected back with God, like, that level of feeling.
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And so what I saw the first time was, like, I kind of, like, blasted off, as they say.
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And I was just all of a sudden, like, outside floating in the universe.
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I was seeing, like, all these, like, weird, like, pillars, but they were, like, snakes almost.
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And I knew that they were, like, just obstacles that were in my way from getting me, from, like, allowing me to see what I'm trying to see, right?
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And off in the distance, I kept on seeing, like, this really what seemed like an ancient golden ball.
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It had, like, a bunch of, like, Egyptian writing on it and stuff like that.
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And I saw that it was, like, basically sitting in the, what is it called, Saturn's rings.
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It felt like, I don't know, like, I could just pluck it out of there.
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And what was really strange was is that as I'm looking at it, I was, like, I just had the thought of, I wonder what that thing feels like.
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And as soon as I had that thought, boom, it, like, just appeared, like, seemingly, like, it appeared to be holding in my hand.
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Um, no, it was more of just, like, um, like, just imagine, uh, like a ball, the little bit, kind of the in-between size of a baseball and a softball.
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And, um, but it was just, like, pure gold, it felt like.
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And it had, like, this black Egyptian seemingly inscription on it.
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And I don't know what the hell that was, but it ended so quick, the DMT trip.
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So then I ended up doing it again, except for I doubled the dosage.
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And whenever I doubled the dosage, that's whenever it started insane.
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And I got that same euphoric, awesome feeling all over again.
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And as that happened, it almost became too awesome and too euphoric.
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And I started, like, losing grasp of my own reality and losing grasp of all control that I thought I would, you know, kind of keep during this trip, right?
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And out of nowhere, I'd just end up in, like, a, in a Buc-ee's.
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Like, if you've ever been to the South, there's, like, Buc-ee's gas stations.
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In a physical Buc-ee's or a spiritual Buc-ee's?
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And Buc-ee's is weird, too, because Buc-ee's has all kinds of, like, conspiracies associated with it.
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And, like, as strange as that is, go and find me another, like, convenience store gas station type pit stop place that has conspiracies surrounding it.
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Well, and I didn't really know what to allude that to.
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We stopped at a Buc-ee's on the way to Bohemian Grove.
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So maybe it was just my mind's way of, you know, serving up some kind of memory.
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And so, anyway, I'm inside of this Buc-ee's bathroom.
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And then I see, like, the, you know, all the sinks and the mirrors and all that shit behind me.
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It's not, like, a disjointed sink that doesn't work functionally if you really examine it?
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Or, like, this checks out as a physical Buc-ee's?
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I think the lost time is a big one with Buc-ee's.
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You could have just been catapulted into a hyper-vivid, like, well-executed version of astral projection, no?
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But I, and I, and I was trying to understand what the, what the meaning behind the Buc-ee's was all along.
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But it was kind of clouded over with what happened next.
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So what happened next was, is as I'm standing there and I'm feeling like I'm losing control of everything, everything starts to, like, like, all of my perception of reality.
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Almost, like, imagine everything that you're looking at through your eyes is, like, chopped up and disintegrated, like, like, going through a cheese grater.
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And everything, like, every single bit of reality was now into cubes.
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And these cubes were spinning and they were changing places.
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So, like, so, like, right now on the, if you're staring at me, you can see my eyes are right here.
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Well, now this was a block and this block was spinning around and it would change up here.
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And it was just fucking the trippiest thing ever, right?
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And so after a while, it started scaring me because I was like, oh, my God, I got to hurry up and put that block back over here.
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Put that block back over here or else, like, my life is just going to lose everything, every sense of reality.
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And as the more I started trying to grasp for control, it started getting smaller and smaller and smaller, all the cubes.
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And before you knew it, dude, it was like Thanos snapping his fucking fingers and everything turning to dust and blowing away.
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And so there was no more perception anymore, right after that.
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And so what happened after that, I'm just sitting, like, in this void, right?
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Dude, let me tell you, it was the scariest thing I've ever experienced in my life.
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It was, like, horrendously, it was the worst nightmare on steroids that you can ever imagine.
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I was like, oh, my God, this, you know, here I was, you know, I'm trying to be the outgoing guy.
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And, you know, it just makes you go really internal.
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Now I'm in the abyss, all because I wanted to have an experience.
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And I was like, you know, my wife and my kids and, like, I'm fucking losing everything now.
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And I don't, like, oh, my God, my dog is at home.
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And I'm like, this whole reality just kind of disintegrated because I wanted to do something crazy.
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But what was extra crazy was is that it's not that it was just my life that was going away.
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And I, it was almost like I, like, it was your fault.
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Like, the reason why the world ceased to exist was because of me.
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And so I'm trying to wake myself up out of this fucking nightmare, right?
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And, like, I'm like, I remembered that I was inside of a DMT trip.
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So I was like, let me try and see if I can open my eyes.
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And at this time, I'm like, man, like, this is, like, I'm going to try and open my eyes.
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And what I'm going to see is I'm just going to be, like, rendering it myself.
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Like, because I know that it doesn't exist anymore.
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Like, I was convinced that the world didn't exist anymore.
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And so whenever I'm trying to squint open my eyes, I'm looking out into the reality,
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into the room where everybody was, you know, partaking.
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And I could see everybody sitting around me, but nobody was moving.
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Like, there was, like, something in my mind that was like, don't lose hope.
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And whenever I finally woke up out of it, dude, I just had that thousand-mile stare of
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just, like, you ever see, like, military people come home from, like, crazy war?
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And it's like they just seen some shit that, like, their reality is never going to be the
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And so, yeah, I mean, as nightmarish and as horrendous as that experience was, it has
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helped me so much in my life, dude, because I realized just how important, you know, your
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family is and how important your friends are because you could lose it just like that.
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So, I'm a completely different person ever since that experience.
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And I'll say, dude, it's weird, but I feel like I heard somebody say it, but, like, whenever
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It's just, like, for some reason, I feel like I can comprehend a lot more shit.
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So, when I did Mushrooms, I had an experience that was just, like, epiphany after epiphany
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I wouldn't say, like, an intellectual addition, but certainly an understanding, a way to
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But you said that the previous DMT trip you did, you felt like a closeness to God, and
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And what I think is fascinating about that is the more we've been doing research and doing
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this show, we've started to become comfortable with this idea that, like, hell or something
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It's your actions that distance yourself from God if you keep choosing kind of the wrong
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thing, but the further you get from God is also because God is light, it seems, in very many
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So, it's accompanied with darkness, and it is a distance from everything that God embodies,
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You know, love and empathy and understanding and things like that.
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So obviously, you're talking about the complete opposite of that.
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You're talking about a void of empathy, a void of love, and also an isolation with your own
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Those things seem to be what hell would be or what the abyss would be, is a distance from
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And you know, it's actually, I'm super happy you brought that up because I didn't even link
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We recently just started going into this new philosophy from Plato, and it's kind of, it's
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a philosophy that has evolved over the course of, you know, because I think Plato was around
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And so people were taking his philosophies and kind of evolved it into today's understanding.
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So what you have now, as far as Platonism, is called Neoplatonism, to where they basically
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add like a bunch of different spiritual aspects to it, which it still makes a lot of sense,
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and it still goes hand in hand with what Plato was trying to say.
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But he believed that there were basically four levels to existence.
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And what he called him, he called it, so you could look at like God being the main light,
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Like almost like God is this massive, like giant spotlight, right?
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But he called it the one, which is basically all encompassing, like the one consciousness,
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you know, everybody's consciousness all together.
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And he thinks, or what he was trying to say is that we're all basically emanations of
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So you would have the next level after the one is called the noose.
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And that noose is kind of like an almost perfect mirrored image of what God is through our level
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Like we're basically never going to be able to understand what God is or, you know, or what
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the one is, but you can try and think on it or meditate on it by thinking of this noose
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And then the next emanating phase, which is called the world soul.
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And the world soul is basically how he described it is maybe that's where you'll see the existence
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of angels and spirits and, you know, all the shit that's on the other side of the ethereal
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That we all know, we've all, you know, experienced something like that.
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You know, maybe there's some kind of guiding light, you know, like some kind of factor that
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Maybe that's what's in the world in what he called the world soul.
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And then after that is what you have is our physical reality.
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So our physical reality is basically what he says is if you have a giant spotlight and the
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our physical reality is over here, we, we stretch beyond, um, we go to a certain point to where
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And so the, where we're at, the light doesn't exist.
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Like it doesn't exist beyond where we're at, right?
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It's the most densest physical thing, um, that there is.
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So what you're saying is like, so there's no, uh, realm that exists beyond this one.
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At least if anything else does exist, it's completely in the darkness.
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Um, but that also means that we are at the furthest.
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If God is light, then we're about the furthest we could be away from him while still being in his
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And, and, and whenever you were talking about, you know, whenever I went into the void, you
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I mean, if you really think about it, like, and is hell a real place, who knows, dude.
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But, um, but whenever you think about it, like if there is no light there and you, and I do,
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I felt so lonely, like it was the loneliest I'd ever felt.
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And I felt so sorry for myself and like, it was just the lowest I'd ever felt in my life.
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And so maybe that's what exists beyond the physical plane.
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But anyway, you know, I just wanted to bring that up because, you know, it's, it's fascinating
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looking into these different philosophies and seeing how they kind of match up with other,
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uh, religions and spiritual thought and stuff like that.
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And, and it's actually said that Plato was a major influence to Christianity, you know,
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maybe about how they constructed the book and the way that they did, you know, like the,
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the beginning, the middle, the end, like that kind of way.
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And yeah, I don't know, dude, we're all just trying to discover all this shit.
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I, so I don't know if you've, um, are you familiar with Ed Mabry?
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You guys should a hundred percent talk to Ed Mabry.
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He is a fantastic guest and, um, he does a, well, we actually just wrapped up the 25th
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episode of our book of revelation series with him.
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And, uh, hopefully we're going to be getting into the book of Genesis soon, but the way that
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he first, um, got on our radar and the first interaction that we had with him was him describing
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this theory that he has where, um, the speed of light is not a constant.
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Uh, we look at it as like, what is the speed of light?
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And he's showing you mathematically speaking, how he can prove that the speed of light has
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And basically what he said is there was a time in the early history of mankind where
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Let's say like thousands of times faster than it is now.
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Considering that the way our, uh, molecules interact with one another is through electrical
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That's how everything communicates from one atom to the next.
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It's an electrical synapse that, that, you know, like a neuron firing off is, is a flash
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If that is how our mind communicates, connects dots, it's how our, um, our constitution, like
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right, literally the, the atoms that make up our body communicate with one another through
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Well, if it used to be faster, then maybe that communication used to be faster, which
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Maybe because our, our, uh, anatomical structure was communicating at a, at a much faster pace.
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Maybe we lived longer and maybe we could have perceived the spiritual realm a lot more efficiently
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And this might explain why, you know, you go from Adam and Eve walking with God, you
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know, in the shade of the day or the cool of the day, uh, and, and being able to be in
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And then the further you go down, it's like, well, Moses has to see him appear in a bush,
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And then it's like the further you go, isn't there an instance, uh, top where there, somebody's
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only allowed to look at the back of God, because if you look at the front of them, you're pretty
00:27:42.800
Well, well, so I mean, whatever the case may be, if it's, if, if either it's detrimental
00:27:48.120
to our constitution, it kills us somehow now because we're no longer hardy enough to look
00:27:51.540
at him or we simply can't perceive him anymore.
00:27:54.620
And which is why now we're left in this other place where basically Christianity believes
00:28:00.560
And so that is our ever present voice of God, but it only is like a whisper and a nudge
00:28:06.340
now where in the past, it was like they were walking in the garden with him.
00:28:11.180
And it's interesting that we use like light as a euphemism for truth to learn.
00:28:18.540
And in the Bible, it talks about Jesus Christ being the way, the truth and the life.
00:28:22.660
I think truth and light are, are the same thing.
00:28:27.340
It's almost like it's a physical representation of a, of a spiritual principle, truth being
00:28:31.280
the spiritual principle, light being the physical manifestation of it.
00:28:34.380
And, uh, we have been through one incursion or another, probably the decisions that we made
00:28:39.300
and maybe makes a case for, uh, the serpent in the garden being a big drop off.
00:28:44.020
When that happened, there was a big moving away from God, a distance from the source.
00:28:48.480
A distance from light and, and light began to slow down.
00:28:54.480
I mean, I know it fits really well, but I know there aren't a lot of things that I'd know.
00:28:59.400
I do know that light and the truth and, and our proximity to it is seemingly determining
00:29:08.600
And I'm willing to take it back to, uh, Jonathan's experience, you know, as, as scary as that
00:29:14.720
was and as hopeless as that felt, what you just described, I feel like is that, that
00:29:19.420
feeling or notion in his mind to not give up hope.
00:29:23.100
Like as far into the depths he went, he still had that, that understanding that like, okay,
00:29:28.380
And so that, I feel like that's a beautiful message for anybody really.
00:29:31.700
Um, and that kind of goes back to this, this, um, biblical principle as well, where, um,
00:29:43.060
Anybody who does psychedelics and, and I have a history of usage will tell you that fear
00:29:49.080
is the last thing you want to take into a psychedelic experience, hope and positivity
00:29:55.760
If you carry those into the experience, you have a really good chance of having some positive
00:30:01.980
But if you go in there with fear, you're going to a temporary hell until that thing fades
00:30:09.480
And I don't think that it's, um, accidental or coincidental that the Bible tells you fear
00:30:15.540
not, you know, fear is that that's what they say 365 times.
00:30:19.980
If I could read, I'd be able to tell you whether or not that was the truth, but I can't read.
00:30:23.540
Uh, so, uh, but I do think that that is hugely important.
00:30:27.100
This idea of fear, um, it's, it's the opposite of the truth.
00:30:31.960
And there was actually, so, uh, not to get too personal here, but, um, about a year ago,
00:30:37.100
my wife and I had split up and we were on the outs and she was going to be moving to Texas
00:30:42.300
and, and I was going to be, uh, moving to Texas, but basically just for, you know,
00:30:48.060
But before we moved or before I moved out, she moved all of her stuff out, but, uh, and I,
00:30:52.920
we were actually living in a trailer at that time.
00:30:55.200
And so whenever she moved all of her stuff out, I ended up doing, um, a psychedelic trip
00:31:00.820
and not the best time to be doing anything like that, by the way.
00:31:04.980
Um, but I ended up doing a psychedelic trip and I felt so lonely and like, it was like,
00:31:09.700
uh, the, the trailer that I was sitting in, it felt like an empty hollowed out can that
00:31:14.680
I was just like, basically, uh, like the decisions that I had made, what was I doing?
00:31:23.620
Like somebody come here, somebody, somebody guide me.
00:31:26.320
And I was like, you know, cause I knew that, you know, I was entering that, that, uh, that
00:31:30.520
spiritual, um, ethereal realm with, you know, with the psychedelics.
00:31:36.220
I felt so distraught with myself, you know, for the decision that I had made to leave my
00:31:40.860
And, um, and in that moment I went over to my bedroom, I was trying to fall asleep because
00:31:47.040
Like every single thought that you have is extremely amplified, especially if you're in
00:31:52.880
fear or sad or, you know, like something, some kind of bad vibe.
00:31:57.280
And so I went to, to lay down in my bed and I was just calling out for help.
00:32:01.500
Like somebody, I know that there's aliens that can come in here.
00:32:06.580
Like I'm just kind of desperate at the point is how I felt.
00:32:09.200
Um, and so I, whenever I was laying there, I, um, it was the strangest thing, dude, like
00:32:15.320
this is going to sound wacky almost, but, um, but I'm laying there in bed.
00:32:19.440
And, uh, after I called out for help, this fucking, this cat being came in, like, uh, was
00:32:26.760
like laying next to me, like a, like a human version of a cat.
00:32:31.580
And, um, and I didn't know what the hell that was.
00:32:34.100
I kind of assumed that it was maybe some kind of Egyptian thing because, you know, they
00:32:38.480
got a lot of cats and, uh, and so I'm laying there and I can feel it purring up against
00:32:43.440
me and, you know, anybody that knows like a purring, whenever cats, I believe, I'm not
00:32:48.500
sure if this is a hundred percent true, but I remember hearing that a cat basically only
00:32:52.720
purrs whenever it's around like other, uh, like humans or something like, uh, along those
00:32:58.260
And it's basically like a, uh, like a, like a calming kind of thing.
00:33:06.360
And I felt that up against me and it was so strange.
00:33:09.000
And so like these crazy things can happen whenever you're on psychedelics, like, um, you know,
00:33:13.840
no matter how distraught you are, it's like, it's almost like they're throwing you a bone
00:33:18.480
even, you know, like whenever you're scared or anything like that, if you ask for help,
00:33:23.760
And so, um, you know, wild things, there was another experience I had, dude, I did mushrooms.
00:33:28.520
It was one of the first time I had ever done mushrooms.
00:33:30.560
And, uh, there was this, um, I was actually supposed to be doing mushrooms with my uncle
00:33:36.360
And, uh, so I, on the way over there, he was like, all right, you know, we're going to do
00:33:40.200
So I, uh, I got like, um, like a bunch of mushrooms on it, maybe a half an ounce or something
00:33:46.660
And I get over there after taking my half of the mushrooms and he's like, oh man, I got
00:33:51.700
I'm like, oh my God, I already ate the mushrooms.
00:33:55.280
So then I go over to one of my friend's house and she was like, she was like, yeah, I'll
00:33:59.880
I get over there and she's like, ah, yeah, I got to get, get up for, uh, work in the
00:34:09.420
And so I ended up going back home and I was like, you know what?
00:34:13.440
Let's just, I'm going to, you're going to take the rest of the bag.
00:34:16.560
And so, um, super, super crazy trip, dude, to where I'm like, I'm experiencing all
00:34:23.780
I'm like looking outside and I'm experiencing nature.
00:34:26.780
I can see like this green, like loving hue coming off of the tree that's covering over
00:34:34.380
Well, after a long trip, I go into my bedroom again and I'm laying down and out of nowhere,
00:34:41.080
But if you ever taken psychedelics and tried to fall asleep, it prevents you from falling
00:34:45.080
asleep because your mind is just racing so much.
00:34:47.720
It's pretty hard to fall asleep when your reality is like disintegrating.
00:34:52.520
You know, like, and it's just, your mind is just on a hundred and, um, and another world
00:35:00.020
And so I'm laying there in bed and out of nowhere, I hear like this fucking, this horn sound
00:35:07.500
And in this, it was almost as if somebody was speaking, but they were speaking as if
00:35:17.420
And all I kept on hearing was Elohim, Elohim, I'm not a Christian.
00:35:24.480
I didn't even know what the damn word was at this time, at this point in time, this was
00:35:30.260
I don't know what this is, but I'm just going to go with it.
00:35:33.100
And, um, and, and I was like, so what do I, do I ask you questions?
00:35:37.820
Cause I figured that it was some kind of entity or something like that.
00:35:41.400
And, uh, they were just like, yeah, ask whatever you want.
00:35:43.780
And so I was asking questions and dude, it was the trippiest fucking thing.
00:35:49.320
And before I can even get done asking that question, the answer was coming and it happened
00:35:55.000
And I don't remember most of that conversation, but what I do remember taken from that was,
00:36:01.160
you know, what this thing was trying to teach me is like, look, you're not, don't,
00:36:05.440
don't worry about going to hell or anything like that.
00:36:07.580
Just be a good person, do what you do, what you're already doing and you'll be all right.
00:36:13.860
That's one thing that I remember from that conversation.
00:36:16.620
So I wake up, uh, the next morning, I'm like, what was the name of that thing that
00:36:23.540
And I was like, oh my God, like, is this God that I'm speaking to or angels or something
00:36:30.320
Like it's been, you know, written in Hebrew in the Bible for, you know, thousands of years.
00:36:34.420
And I'm like, how have I never even heard of this word before?
00:36:39.280
I thought that it was saying Nephilim the whole time.
00:36:43.160
And so I thought it was saying like Nephilim, Nephilim, but it was Elohim once it became a
00:36:50.260
And so dude, like, that's why I'm so fascinated with all this spiritual shit, because how can
00:36:56.480
we receive all this information just by changing the vibration of our mind or what, or opening
00:37:03.320
up our mind and, and, and, you know, on our show, we do like a tarot card reading every
00:37:09.220
And, uh, some people think that we're demons or demonic for doing that kind of shit.
00:37:14.780
Um, so we do a card pull every time and every single episode, matter of fact, we can do it
00:37:20.320
Every single episode, when we pull one card, I guarantee you that it will align with whatever
00:37:29.080
Well, before we go on, I got to say, I have also done, um, a lot of mushrooms.
00:37:35.880
And, uh, I don't think it was enough to have the experience you had.
00:37:40.100
Like if you turned it down a little bit, I didn't recognize that there was something that
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I would have, I guess you could call it a gnosis, right?
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Like I knew exactly, it was epiphany after epiphany.
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I don't know what we're going to, I guess we're going to get demonically possessed because
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No, no, I just, I, I, I, I'm not exactly sure what comes with the tarot cards.
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Uh, well, my, my thing with tarot cards is it's like, um, so you have the ability to
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I, I honestly am, am not too sure, uh, if it's inherently bad.
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I had a, a reading with, uh, uh, a psychic, I guess in New Orleans about a year and a half
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And, um, and he was like a gay man with a handlebar mustache wearing a fez and, uh,
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Like, uh, as a matter of fact, this is something that I know personally that like even a lot of
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Like, Oh my God, God's speaking to me right now.
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It's just that the tarot cards have a bunch of symbolism on there and you can interpret
00:41:52.600
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If something is, you know, said to me, then that's one thing.
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But I don't give a shit about knowing about my future or anything like that.
00:44:14.020
And just to, and I'm not saying that we have to do this top at all, but what I am saying
00:44:18.940
is the reason that tracks with me is because that is a form of power.
00:44:25.100
If you start utilizing these teachings and shit to gain an upper leg and understand the
00:44:34.280
So using any of these things to try to accomplish something is very, very slippery.
00:44:39.440
I don't really even do the thing with the Bible opening up and putting a finger.
00:44:43.460
Uh, I don't know this morning if, if God wants to contact me, he knows where I'm at.
00:44:49.300
Uh, the thing with the, with the tarot card or with any, anything like, like for me, at
00:44:53.620
least for going out and seeking this stuff, you certainly will find the same way.
00:44:58.200
When you were seeking something, you were received by Elohim.
00:45:01.080
And that just means classification of heavenly body, something from God to fallen angel.
00:45:09.580
I don't know what I would even be talking to, or what I would be inviting to speak
00:45:18.180
I mean, in another life, I'd be very interested.
00:45:20.320
But right now with what we're doing in, uh, on this show, I can't really fuck around with
00:45:27.640
Uh, we got a lot of people coming through listening.
00:45:29.920
And also a lot of, there's, there's a lot of people doing things that, uh, perhaps don't,
00:45:35.660
don't really have our best interests at heart waiting for me to slip up.
00:45:38.840
So I just can't take that risk with, uh, with, no, that's a good point.
00:45:47.540
And it's super tempting for the, like to be on the show.
00:45:50.180
Cause the information you're going to glean from it is going to be terrific.
00:45:52.760
Most I can guarantee you, if you did it, it would be something relevant.
00:45:56.420
It's going to be a banger, but it's just like, I'm like, is it, what, what door am
00:46:06.080
I mean, I think that there are definitely a lot of people out there that are practicing,
00:46:11.640
Like you can absolutely use tarot and a lot of these definition forms for evil purposes.
00:46:18.040
But the reason why we are, we're interested in that we're not, we're not interested in
00:46:22.760
We're not interested in, in, in any evil kind of shit like that.
00:46:27.140
We, we look more toward the esoteric understanding of it.
00:46:30.240
How can we apply it to our own minds and our own selves and, uh, to assist us on, on this
00:46:36.000
journey, you know, in this meat suit, that's really how we look at it.
00:46:39.920
This is something I've been saying recently about like numerology, for example, right?
00:46:44.020
It's like, okay, the, the fact that numerology is an art at all, and it is applicable to some
00:46:49.800
degree of success tells you that there is an inherent aspect of our reality that numerology
00:47:01.480
Was like, no, it seems to be the building blocks of the realm that we inhabit, right?
00:47:04.780
That's like walking up to the bricks of a building and being like bad, but if you, it's
00:47:09.140
It's not, no, no, but if you then take that thing, which is what people do, this is exactly
00:47:13.900
And this is why it has become a, a, a, a, a shit show numerology is you then start using
00:47:19.960
it to, uh, to, you know, gain an upper hand on sports betting to position yourself, maybe,
00:47:28.960
If I'm here on this day, during this time in a numerological alignment, then I will find
00:47:34.840
And then that just becomes, in my opinion, the issue of, Oh shit, humans figured out
00:47:45.260
And humans are fucking retarded and it's going to corrupt this.
00:47:51.800
That's like a potent term, but like my kids, I, I give them safety scissors.
00:47:58.980
And like some of these, these, these are tools.
00:48:01.060
Like these are tools that you guys are using to like, look and like take a peek behind the
00:48:05.800
But for me, even though, you know, we do this, like, I guess it's like a fairly black belt
00:48:12.480
I don't fuck with it with, uh, in the tangible sense of, of doing this stuff because I'm like,
00:48:17.360
I'm gonna get my fingers cut off if I touch the circle.
00:48:21.140
I'll hit, I'll let the, I'm, I'm actually interested.
00:48:23.540
What have been some experiences like in your show, like with the tarot card reading, what
00:48:29.660
So we actually, the, the very first time that we were absolutely mind blown, uh, from a
00:48:36.620
tarot card experience is that we learned that there's this, uh, there's this old, like, uh,
00:48:41.700
like this Russian book and it's called, I believe it's called the Anastasia method.
00:48:46.640
And you can, um, basically this guy went wandering off in the woods and I guess he got lost and
00:48:54.580
I don't know if it was some kind of nature being or, you know, a spiritual being or whatever
00:48:59.180
it was, but basically this being told him, look, if you're trying to cure all illnesses,
00:49:04.540
cure all, whatever you got going on with yourself, the best way to be able to do that would be
00:49:09.080
to in like, uh, like intertwine your DNA with a seed.
00:49:15.120
So, and how you would do that is, is like, um, uh, how she described it was that you would
00:49:19.880
take like an apple seed, for example, and you'd take that apple seed and you'd hold it in
00:49:24.020
your mouth and just let like all your DNA, like your saliva soak into it.
00:49:27.780
And then you'd go out, um, is going to sound kind of crazy, but you'd go outside, you'd
00:49:32.320
hold those seeds up to the, to the stars basically, and basically have that light shine down on
00:49:40.820
Well, whenever you plant that seed in the, in the tree grows and then you can eat the
00:49:44.360
fruit, supposedly that fruit has everything that your body needs that it is lacking because
00:49:52.860
So we did a show on that and, um, and then we ended up pulling a tarot card and, um, and
00:49:59.320
the only card that we, that, uh, the only card that would have intertwined with that, with
00:50:06.640
that episode was, uh, do you remember the name of that card, Sean?
00:50:10.460
I don't know if it was the full, but more importantly, it was the imagery and the imagery on the card
00:50:15.280
was a hand with, with stars on it, holding a plant.
00:50:18.920
And so that to us was just like, wow, you know, like it basically just nailed the whole
00:50:24.620
topic and idea of this show was like intertwining and holding onto the plant, you know?
00:50:29.420
And, and so, and just to be clear, you know, like at least as far as how I've seen the tarot
00:50:34.220
cards is like, I'm sure you guys have heard, you know, where, where attention goes, energy
00:50:38.900
And let's say you go and buy a car and because you've never seen, you don't see this car
00:50:46.500
As soon as you buy the car, you start seeing that particular car everywhere now.
00:50:53.180
And so now you're going to see this particular car a little more frequently.
00:50:56.740
And so basically how I, at least how I see the tarot, as far as how it works is that the
00:51:03.880
symbolism and the understanding or the meaning of the card resonates with you because I think
00:51:08.500
no matter what card we pull, it's going to resonate because you can apply that to basically
00:51:14.120
And really it's a tool in the, in the fact of when you pull the card, it just kind of highlights
00:51:22.360
You know, it's not, it's not pulling energy from some dark for saying, you know, this
00:51:30.440
You know, it's basically just a reminder, kind of like a parable.
00:51:34.300
It's, it's interesting because a lot of like psychics, um, and, and just going through that
00:51:39.400
whole experience, whether it's tarot or otherwise, uh, there is certainly some aspect that you can
00:51:44.340
gleam something that were like, you didn't know, but I'm not going to lie.
00:51:48.040
I feel like a lot of it is confirmation of shit.
00:51:54.860
And maybe that's valuable to some people, right?
00:51:56.800
It's like, maybe you're uncertain, but you do feel like maybe this is the correct path
00:52:03.200
And then otherwise it's a lot of it is just confirming shit that you already knew, or you
00:52:08.840
could have figured out if you were just a little bit more, um, I don't know, receptive
00:52:13.300
and grounded in the, in the truth or something like that.
00:52:15.700
Like, uh, when I, well, for my experience, it was, it was weird, but, um, I've always
00:52:29.720
Uh, and, and, uh, I always have known on some level that that was my path.
00:52:36.060
And one day when I was in new Orleans and I went to this, uh, tarot card reader, it was
00:52:41.920
just like, Hey, you do something, uh, you do two things.
00:52:44.720
You, you, you, you, you have your foot in two different worlds.
00:52:51.820
And it's like, okay, well that one that you do, it has to do a lot with like talking.
00:52:55.480
And I'm like, okay, yeah, that's, that's pretty good.
00:52:57.560
And they're like, you've been trying at that for a long time.
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The one that you don't want to do that you do for money, it's going to fall away soon.
00:53:03.740
And the thing that you, uh, want to do, uh, is going to be the thing that you do permanently
00:53:11.680
And then they were like, look, you're going to have to worry about some pitfalls.
00:53:15.120
Um, but you're going to be the recipient of, of, uh, more hate than you've ever been the
00:53:27.460
But I recognize what it did is it fed something in me that just wanted to be confirmed.
00:53:33.040
And part of me almost feels like God is like, yeah, you dumb gay bitch.
00:53:39.480
You get to be on the hero's journey, but instead of having trust and faith in this situation,
00:53:44.860
you got to go to a gay guy in a fez, which was, you know, my bad.
00:53:48.460
Um, and so, but I don't know if that's, that experience is the same for everybody, but I do
00:53:52.840
see that a lot is like a lot of the times, the information that you're going to get, I'm
00:53:57.360
not saying that it's not, um, perceptive in a way that is inherently spiritual because
00:54:03.760
how the hell else are you gleaming this information off of me?
00:54:06.400
But also if you check in with yourself, there's a voice inside you that already is telling you
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I wanted to, I wanted to say something about that idea, the, the episode that you were
00:54:16.860
talking about, cause that's a, that's a fascinating idea.
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And it came up in a different sense on one of the episodes we did with, uh, this guy,
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He's kind of like an expert on, uh, uh, self-medication, I guess you'd say.
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But, uh, one of the things he did that's very similar to that is he had a, an allergy to
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00:55:11.060
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He's intravenously putting in, you know, like vitamin C. Glutathione is just basically
00:57:01.600
So it's, it's what I was like, man, it, this is a, it's a principle.
00:57:05.600
That is a principle of being here as human beings.
00:57:15.140
I mean, I might put some seeds in my mouth and fucking spit them in the ground here.
00:57:20.020
Hey, we don't know if it works, but you know, it's interesting.
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Somebody sent us a testimony and they've been ingrained in the church their entire lives.
00:57:31.740
And, uh, and basically somebody from their church suddenly came to them and told them
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Um, and this person, what's the expression for, for somebody that, that is, you know,
00:57:48.800
Um, so this person expressed some sort of hesitation because oftentimes, according to
00:57:54.640
the, the person who's, uh, sharing it, God will give messages to this individual, but
00:58:01.040
then caution them against really sharing them because, um, it can do a couple of things.
00:58:06.800
It can derail you from the path that you're on, or you're just not in a place where you're
00:58:13.860
You misinterpret it, misconstrued, and, you know, the very act of telling you this message
00:58:20.500
is what keeps you from, you know, executing your mission.
00:58:23.480
But within the church, there is still precedent for messages from God relayed from one individual
00:58:33.820
I mean, there is, and, but that's the thing, dude.
00:58:36.540
Like, I think that what we're discovering, uh, on Meta Mysteries is that there is so many
00:58:45.520
You know, that it doesn't necessarily have to come from somebody, uh, that is in any specific
00:58:52.860
And now, I mean, I, I understand the, the mindset, like I understand how, you know, if
00:58:57.780
you're a certain religion that you could look at everybody else's religion as if it's
00:59:01.900
evil, you can look at every other form of spirituality and divination as if it's evil.
00:59:06.360
I mean, it even says right in the Bible, do not practice divination, right?
00:59:09.840
Like all of that shit is to be basically outlawed.
00:59:13.160
And, um, and I don't know, I'm, I'm personally somebody, like I said, I didn't grow up with,
00:59:18.480
Like, you know, we were, we didn't even have any form of spirituality in my family while
00:59:23.880
So that's why maybe the, a lot of the shit is so fascinating, but like, I grew up exactly
00:59:28.500
No, no Christianity, no spirituality whatsoever.
00:59:30.660
I didn't, I didn't become Christian until I was 30 after being a conspiracy theorist for
00:59:37.160
Well, it's what you're saying is true and it's not, it annoys me when, when you get
00:59:42.180
people from the church or Christian people who see, uh, spirituality, especially coming
00:59:47.440
from whether it's like some kind of mysticism or Gnosticism or different religion and they
00:59:53.640
And I kind of, I kind of just did that here a little bit with the tarot card, um, hit it
00:59:59.180
I'm just telling you like, honestly, I don't, I'm not quite sure.
01:00:07.240
Um, there is in this, within the spiritual realm, there's a lot of shit going on.
01:00:13.700
No, there's shades of gray, but I don't, I can't pretend to understand.
01:00:18.480
I think that there's, I think that the spiritual realm is, uh, more vast than this realm that
01:00:25.580
So there's, I don't know, less than 10 billion people on the earth.
01:00:28.160
If we're talking about spirits, there's probably way more.
01:00:37.740
I don't even really know all the rules, only the things that we can kind of gleam from,
01:00:41.680
you know, the esoteric readings or biblical, you know, biblical lectures that we can find
01:00:46.360
from here on how to conduct yourself within this realm.
01:00:49.420
And still, I don't even know if that would be true or accurate.
01:00:54.200
You know, I wouldn't, I'm saying I wouldn't go in there acting like I know what the fuck
01:00:58.160
I'm doing, like swing my dick around because it could be, I could have read something wrong.
01:01:02.620
So that is a, I understand like the, the people have complacency for it, but yeah, not necessarily
01:01:08.840
Not necessarily everything is bad on the other side, but how do you know?
01:01:13.400
Well, and I actually had an experience, um, on, on Meta Mysteries.
01:01:18.180
We had a guest on and, you know, he came from the, the Christian, uh, worldview.
01:01:23.040
And whenever I was telling him about my Elohim story, he was like, well, yeah, I'm, I'm pretty
01:01:27.800
sure that's demonic and I'm pretty sure that that's evil.
01:01:30.100
And I'm just like, I didn't get any, any evil thing that happened as a result.
01:01:34.720
I told you to keep being a good person, keep doing what you're doing.
01:01:38.360
And also Elohim is, is a terminology that's used for like a high ranking spiritual entity.
01:01:43.000
Uh, it seems that even the way the Bible puts it, God is considered an Elohim.
01:01:47.360
It's a class of spiritual entity, but, but, you know, there's a creator and then there
01:01:51.660
is pretty much everything else that, that it's created.
01:01:54.200
So I would say that's, look, you said before that, um, a lot of people will adhere to a
01:01:59.880
religion and then say all other religions are, are, are bullshit.
01:02:03.420
And it's like, that is a huge mistake if you do that.
01:02:06.900
Cause where I've come to is like, I only adhere to Christianity because I believe it's
01:02:13.240
These other religions would not exist if they did not have elements of truth at their core.
01:02:18.300
You cannot build something that long lasting on a foundation of lies.
01:02:22.080
So here's a, sorry to interrupt, but here, this is a good scripture here.
01:02:26.780
Um, that again, this is why I don't, I don't fuck with this stuff because even though the
01:02:30.640
Bible says it, I do believe the Bible, I trust it.
01:02:32.820
But I'm like, do I really want to go and, and put that to practice?
01:02:37.040
I got a good thing going for me right here, right now, like without diving into some shit.
01:02:41.540
But, uh, John, first John chapter four, verse one says, beloved, do not believe every spirit,
01:02:46.880
but test the spirits to see whether they are from God.
01:02:51.600
So that right there is telling me, cause we know that there are spiritual laws.
01:02:55.840
There are rules within the spirit realm that for whatever reason, entities throughout, uh,
01:03:03.340
And they seem weird and arbitrary to us when we read them.
01:03:10.860
Why would you have to use, why do you need my permission?
01:03:14.660
Why would you have to use blood to do this or that?
01:03:19.760
And it seems like one of those laws is if I ask it, like, you know, like the old trope,
01:03:24.280
like you, oh, you asked the cop, they got to tell you so they can't sell you drugs.
01:03:27.260
I was like, that's turns out to be bullshit too.
01:03:36.640
And then something's like, yeah, totally faggot.
01:03:42.500
It would all depend on what it is you're searching for.
01:03:45.500
And I think that, and correct me if I'm wrong, but, um, uh, basically the, the, the idea of
01:03:51.000
the devil is that basically that this is the devil's playground is earth.
01:03:54.760
And, uh, basically physical reality would be the devil's playground.
01:03:58.440
And so if you're ever trying to search for any kind of, uh, guidance, um, from the, the
01:04:05.280
darks 99 times out of a hundred, whenever you're trying to contact the, the dark side
01:04:13.100
or anything like that, it's for something in this physical world.
01:04:17.180
So let's say, all right, well, I'll make this sacrifice for example, so that my career can
01:04:23.700
That's, that's like, you're pertaining to the physical world at that point.
01:04:27.940
You're trying to advance the, uh, awesomeness, I guess, of your, your physical world.
01:04:34.480
And where we come at it is a complete opposite end.
01:04:38.140
We don't even care what happens in this physical world.
01:04:40.340
I mean, yeah, you want to take care of your family and create good memories and stuff like
01:04:43.960
that, but whenever we look into any form of divination or spirituality, it's always to
01:04:47.960
broaden our understanding and, and, you know, uh, bring our awareness, um, a little bit more
01:04:53.580
to the forefront and almost try and gain a little bit more enlightenment.
01:04:56.680
That way, whenever we are interacting with the physical world, we have a better way of
01:05:03.540
So that way we're not, you know, so caught up in our emotions and so caught up in just the
01:05:08.040
This is like, basically the stuff that we're getting into is it's, it's anti ego, you know,
01:05:13.440
and so we're not really too concerned with anything materialistically, which I think,
01:05:18.400
you know, you were talking about spirits earlier.
01:05:19.920
And I think that that kind of relays into what, you know, we were trying to present today.
01:05:23.760
And that's like near, uh, near death experiences and people who have had experiences with past
01:05:29.480
You know, if you're searching for something like that, like the best way, in my opinion,
01:05:33.720
to be able to search for anything is, you know, kind of with your meditative mind, right?
01:05:38.420
And so you go into a meditation and maybe you're listening to some binaural beats or whatever,
01:05:44.100
maybe it's a, a guided meditation or whatever the case may be.
01:05:47.220
You can find out a lot about yourself and a lot about kind of the nature of our reality
01:05:54.820
And, um, and I think that there's a little bit of truth in that even spread throughout the
01:05:59.260
Bible where it says basically the kingdom of heaven is within you.
01:06:02.440
And so that would be the place that you're trying to go.
01:06:05.480
So whenever people do have near death experiences or people do, you know, uh, uh, get a past
01:06:11.840
life regression or something like that, that is stuff.
01:06:15.340
You're not even seeking anything on the outside material world, you know?
01:06:18.680
And, um, so basically our idea, can I share the screen?
01:06:24.680
Oh, by the way, I, I agree with that idea too, that, that, you know, more answers lie within.
01:06:29.640
And that's why I look at, um, NASA, you know, you look at NASA and it's like, it's trying
01:06:34.060
to convince you that like all the answers are out there and some great out there.
01:06:39.200
If you want to trick humanity and keep them from looking inward for understanding, instead,
01:06:44.560
they're now looking outward towards, you know, whatever.
01:06:51.360
I was just going to say, you know, you were, you were making an example as far as when you
01:06:57.140
And, and it seemed like, you know, any question that you had, the answers just kind of presented
01:07:02.120
And, and I, I tend to think I could be wrong, of course, you know, but I tend to think that
01:07:06.500
those answers or understandings are already within you.
01:07:09.420
And when you are, you know, using mushrooms or DMT or something like that, I feel like a
01:07:14.480
lot of the ego and a lot of the preconceived notions that you have kind of blocking you
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You know, it's kind of letting you experience that from kind of a different angle.
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It seems like Tony Merkel would call, he likes the term portal, right?
01:09:05.040
Like it's like a doorway to traverse from one thing to another.
01:09:08.200
But when they say it's inside of you, I think that the person is the portal.
01:09:13.940
We have that innate ability to, yeah, you are going like within yourself.
01:09:21.400
It's like another fractal nature of when we look up at the night sky and we see those
01:09:26.240
And our previous guest, Nick of Occult Rejects was on.
01:09:28.520
He says, well, when you close your eyes and it's like dark, but you still see these like
01:09:33.580
It's almost like you're peering within and it's just repeated out there.
01:09:37.480
So it's like these substances, yeah, these substances like a DMT or mushrooms or acid
01:09:47.320
And that's how I think that's how we go and we communicate with these other realms, like
01:09:56.260
No, it's like it's going inside your mind, but traversing this realm.
01:10:02.960
But that being said, not to cut you off, that being said, I feel like, and I think you've
01:10:07.460
expressed this as well, as far as psychedelics are concerned, it's not for everybody, you
01:10:11.960
know, just as, you know, you were saying you didn't want to take a chance on the tarot
01:10:15.300
because you feel like everything's kind of going good already, you know, and I totally
01:10:18.720
relate to that because Jonathan was telling me about his DMT experience and I just figured
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that sounds like the most scariest experience you could ever experience.
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And I don't think I'm ready for that, you know, and so that being said, I don't think
01:10:32.940
And I have a great deal of empathy, though, for for psychonauts and people that are trying
01:10:37.840
to explore these things, because it's like these are real realms.
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But here in 2025 in the West, we've been totally stripped of the map of this spiritual
01:10:49.900
And so my my issue with it then becomes it's very much like going into the forest and being
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surprised when it's like there's a deer, which is, you know, an herbivore and it's all
01:11:00.700
good and it's really not going to screw with you too much, that's a bear and those are
01:11:04.300
And if you get too close to it, that thing's going to tear you apart.
01:11:06.480
Now, because we're dealing with spiritual entities, imagine if that bear could deceive
01:11:14.040
It's like there is a vast array of entities on the other side of this veil.
01:11:18.860
Like some are good, some are bad, some are neutral.
01:11:23.020
That's like I've only ever heard of a cat person in like on the eastern part of the world.
01:11:32.120
Sean, what was the name of that that character who we figured out who it was?
01:11:36.120
Oh, segment or segment, which is interesting, I think, as far as like many people, even on
01:11:42.960
the other side of the world, seeing these different entities, you know, whether it be
01:11:46.260
the the jesters or the different you've heard of all of the different entities that you can
01:11:52.520
And I find that super fascinating because you can have zero preconceived notion of what
01:11:58.400
And yet you experience something that thousands or even millions of people have have experienced,
01:12:05.820
And so that to me, just like you said, I feel like this this spiritual realm is a thing that's
01:12:13.520
We are just not privy to it as often as we'd like.
01:12:16.700
I well, I have to ask Jonathan because I've already found Sekhmet and I have to ask you
01:12:31.440
It is depicted as having, you know, a considerable posterior.
01:12:47.400
So whenever this what I later became to know as Sekhmet came to me as I was like crying
01:12:54.440
Basically, she started laying up on me, like laying next to me, like kind of like purring
01:12:59.260
And I, you know, weirdly out of nowhere, I just started getting like fucking turned on
01:13:08.100
I was like, you're like, you're having a spiritual experience.
01:13:16.040
And later I ended up finding out because we had a guest on Sean.
01:13:36.940
So Ronnie Pontiac was an understudy to Manly P.
01:13:49.160
Looked at at Ronnie Pontiac as if he was like handing handing the baton off because he knew
01:13:55.560
that he wasn't going to be able to stay alive forever, obviously.
01:13:58.060
And so I was telling Ronnie Pontiac about that story.
01:14:02.120
You know, she's like she's very she's she's always known as like the sexual cat woman.
01:14:07.660
That's, you know, like almost like fooling men into sleeping with her or whatever.
01:14:18.800
That's how he rolls, you know, a full on Sekhmet.
01:14:20.920
And so we ended up doing a little bit of research into who Sekhmet was.
01:14:24.140
And you come to find out the story that she's basically Ra's daughter, like the the sun god Ra.
01:14:35.200
But basically the story goes is that she's like bloodlust, like she's super bloodthirsty.
01:14:41.020
And she I guess Ra stuck her on on humanity for all those people who were not, you know, following the doctrine or whatever like that.
01:14:51.240
But then Ra got all got all pissed and kind of scared because she was like going and killing people that she wasn't even supposed to because of her bloodlust.
01:14:59.500
And so what they did was is that they flooded is it's a pretty funny story.
01:15:04.120
But basically they flooded this town with what seemingly was blood and she was drinking it up.
01:15:10.380
And I guess it made her have some kind of like she like evolved into this other character named Hathor.
01:15:18.840
And Hathor is basically the loving, caring, generous, motherly figure.
01:15:24.380
And and so, yeah, now whenever you see Sekhmet, she's also Hathor.
01:15:29.120
That's just like two sides of the same coin almost.
01:15:35.580
And then, you know, you look into Hathor and a lot of other people are having like these weird experiences with this character, this deity named Hathor or Hathor rather.
01:15:44.780
And if you have if you've heard the the story of of Chris Bledsoe, he wrote the book called UFO of God.
01:15:52.780
And he has like a bunch of orbs and like he's the guy that is always filming orbs.
01:15:57.940
Right. And but he had like a whole crazy thing.
01:16:03.300
And basically he said, look, there was this orb that came out of the sky and she said her name was Hathor.
01:16:08.840
And she had this message that she needed to tell the rest of humanity.
01:16:12.940
And and so whenever I had that experience, I was like Sekhmet and then Sekhmet is Hathor.
01:16:17.180
Like, damn, we're kind of there's a couple of people that are experiencing that kind of stuff.
01:16:20.500
So, dude, it's it's a wild, wild like it's so vast.
01:16:27.620
So so whenever I hear of a female deity, I'm often like, OK, is there some sort of connection between like a Hecate or a Lilith character and whatever this other female deity is?
01:16:38.700
But I have found that at some point Sekhmet had such a you were saying that before, right, whose bloodlusts and destructive tendencies are said to have inspired vampire myths.
01:16:50.640
That's why. Well, this is it also it shares some similarities with like the pagan or that I don't know if it's pagan.
01:16:58.480
It's it's a Roman tradition of Valentine's Day where they get it from those deities.
01:17:02.700
It's like a deity that you would sacrifice to the woman would get beaten by like animal skins and shit like that.
01:17:08.820
It's about fertility. And but there's two sides to it.
01:17:11.700
Like one side is this like lust love side of the other side is this really brutal form of it's almost like sacrifice or self flagellation.
01:17:19.820
And it seems like this person, Hathor and what was the other cat his name?
01:17:25.760
Sekhmet. Sekhmet. Yeah, they have this same duality and it probably it definitely predates.
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Make sure you get your wife some fucking flowers, bro.
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But it also does a good job, right, of like, it kind of lays out the plight of women in so many ways.
01:19:08.900
Because if it's like, you know, the best version is motherhood and empathy and caring and nurturing, right, which is what she sort of evolves into.
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And the other side is fucking just crazy bitch shit.
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Bleeding, just nonstop bleeding all the time with the bleeding.
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So, yeah, I mean, it also embodies that pretty well.
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But anyway, going back to it, it wasn't allowing me to share the screen.
01:19:35.380
And it said, oh, you got to close it in order to update the app or whatever.
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There's a couple of things that I wanted to bring as far as anybody that's interested in, like, near-death experiences.
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And that's, I mean, it's obviously all spiritual.
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And so whether you're a Christian or a Muslim or non-religious or whatever, there is a near-death experience for all of them.
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Like, it's always a divine message, even from Him.
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And I actually brought one up that I do have a near-death experience with Jesus.
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I actually have three that I wanted to bring today.
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And by the way, anybody that wants to be able to go and check this website out, it's this guy.
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He was a medical doctor, and he kept on having, like, these patients, I believe, that were just – they were dying for – momentarily.
01:22:06.200
And then they'd come back and they'd say, oh, my God, I saw, you know, my dead mother.
01:22:10.560
Or, you know, they saw some kind of light being or Jesus or something like that.
01:22:14.920
And the guy, you know, he started getting a little interested in that.
01:22:17.880
Well, lo and behold, he ends up having a near-death experience of his own.
01:22:23.960
He's like, yo, I'm leaving the whole medical field.
01:22:32.000
It seems like most of his patients are dying or something.
01:22:37.220
I can't remember what kind of doctor he was that allowed him to see this kind of stuff.
01:22:44.260
But basically, he ended up having a near-death experience.
01:22:47.220
And now he created this website called NDERF.org, which stands for the Near-Death Experience Research Foundation.
01:22:57.460
And if you go, they have a place where you can share your near-death experience or you can go to near-death experience stories.
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And they have current ones that are just recently happening.
01:23:08.440
And then you have exceptional ones, which are just mind-blowing.
01:23:12.340
And the one that we're going to read today is actually an exceptional one, as they label it.
01:23:17.400
And I just want to see what you guys think about this.
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She writes, or he, I don't know, says, I was thrust suddenly into the darkness of space.
01:23:31.820
I could distantly perceive nebula and other cosmic structures.
01:23:34.980
I could not remember where I'd come from, who I'd been, or what my earthly identity was.
01:23:40.040
I felt immense relief bordering on a sense of luxury.
01:23:43.220
I cannot exaggerate the bliss I felt in this place.
01:23:46.180
I was approached by an incorporeal being who communicated with me about my situation.
01:23:52.860
My ability to perceive was emotional rather than visual.
01:23:59.800
I got the sense that it was an amalgamation of everything.
01:24:04.740
I was on the threshold of life and had to decide if I was ready to be done.
01:24:10.000
They explained how rare it was for me to have this choice.
01:24:12.860
Most people who are thrust into this space so forcefully that they do not get the option to remain living.
01:24:19.280
They asked me to consider carefully, so I inquired about my options.
01:24:22.360
They revealed a system of the incarnation cycle.
01:24:25.520
We remain in stasis as immortal and corporeal beings outside of animation when we are not living.
01:24:32.360
Although we are distinguishable as spirits, the overwhelming feeling of continuity was between us.
01:24:38.840
We are all energetically intertwined into essentially a big, in quotes, us.
01:24:43.800
The entity communicating with me described how we are given a turn at animation.
01:24:49.500
Each of us is placed in waiting for animation depending on our length of stasis and the qualities of time spent in previous animations.
01:24:57.540
If we had been in stasis for a while and had endeavored to make our previous lives significant, we would be more worthy of reanimation.
01:25:06.520
The greater power indicated that spirits whose actions in their previous lives were so heinous, so filled with evil and destruction, were placed very far away.
01:25:15.160
Effectively, they were suspended from reincarnation for a very long time to ponder their involvement in the cycle.
01:25:21.280
I inquired what would happen if I chose to remain in this place and not return to my body.
01:25:25.660
I still couldn't remember who I had been on earth.
01:25:28.220
The being told me I was welcome to do that, but I would be placed, in quotes, in the back of the line, so to speak.
01:25:34.380
I would not get another chance at life for a long time.
01:25:37.820
I wondered if I had to return as the person I had been or if I could return to someone else.
01:25:43.440
The being informed me that we are not given a choice regarding the material identity that we inhibit.
01:25:48.440
When new consciousness begins in a new person, a spirit is wedded to that body.
01:25:53.300
As spirits, we only have the choice to be wedded, not to whom we are wedded.
01:25:57.560
Those who forego the decision return to the back of the line, and as such, my person was not dead yet.
01:26:04.380
And I still had the chance to be returned and wedded to her body again.
01:26:09.360
I asked many questions, such as, why was animation so important?
01:26:13.960
Why didn't we all just remain in this calm, blissful space all the time?
01:26:20.880
The being showed me that life was important because it is how stories take place.
01:26:25.460
They demonstrated points in the universe of intense warmth.
01:26:29.880
I realized they were indicating planets that radiated intense heat in a way that I cannot
01:26:36.420
It was a magnetic filled with music and voices and felt warm to the core.
01:26:42.260
I saw many planets very distant from each other in each with distinct forms of being.
01:26:47.320
I immediately understood that there were definitely, in quotes, aliens occurring throughout the universe.
01:26:53.660
I also recognized many other spirits drifting around these planets in attention of the of the
01:27:02.120
The space time divide between us ensured that they could not perceive us and we could not interfere
01:27:07.480
We could only respond to intense emotion with our own.
01:27:11.720
We were not allowed to speak directly to the beings currently living and music was the language
01:27:17.280
So it goes on and on to say, but basically, this person died for a couple of minutes and
01:27:25.440
And so people are trying to understand, like, how do you compartmentalize this?
01:27:32.360
Was it the DMT that was secreting from her brain?
01:27:34.540
As as do all people, whenever they die, they say, as soon as you die, you have DMT that
01:27:40.580
Is it a pure, like, hallucinogen that, you know, whenever you're dying, you know, that
01:27:50.500
Because nature doesn't do anything for no reason, you know?
01:27:58.160
Is this heaven or, you know, is this something else that we don't even know whenever, you know,
01:28:05.040
And there are tens of thousands of people who have documented their stories on near-death
01:28:12.440
And there's not only just near-death experiences.
01:28:16.880
People have what they call spiritually transformative experiences, which is going to be the Jesus one
01:28:27.800
But, I mean, what do you, I mean, how would you compartmentalize that?
01:28:31.440
Do you think it's just the mind doing what the mind does?
01:28:35.300
No, I think that that's, so people that say that, I think that's very gay and reductive
01:28:40.320
because hallucinations, by nature, there's not a long string of coherence within a hallucination.
01:28:48.420
Where, like, one thing begets another thing, a question begets an answer, and there's a logical
01:28:53.380
through line that you can follow through this entire experience.
01:28:58.720
What I will say is, I think that the karmic reincarnation system is real, or else it wouldn't
01:29:05.420
be identified by so many cultures around the world.
01:29:08.060
I had a viewer submit a testimony to me on my old show, The Raven's Watch, where they
01:29:14.900
had been in a, not a symbiotic, but a parasitic relationship with, well, I guess it was symbiotic
01:29:22.880
So one of my listeners entered an agreement, into an agreement with an entity, and that
01:29:29.380
entity would be given basically energy, emotional energy of a sexual nature, but also of basically
01:29:40.800
So drug usage and adrenaline and things like that.
01:29:43.920
It seems like this thing kind of wanted to live through him.
01:29:47.000
It was female, and in exchange, it would give him, number one, access to women, and number
01:29:53.700
two, it would answer whatever questions that he has.
01:29:56.220
So basically, this guy just goes around just crushing puss for a long time, but kind of unable
01:30:03.700
He didn't dislike this entity, and they seemed to have a pretty solid relationship.
01:30:14.940
And one of the things that he gleamed from this entity before he...
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Sort of reluctantly parted ways, which he described as actually very sad, and we could even get
01:31:52.680
into the nature a little bit about what this entity claimed that it was.
01:31:54.780
But one of the things that it gleamed from this entity was that the karmic system is real.
01:32:07.060
It was after the fact that we were here that it was implemented, and it was actually commissioned
01:32:14.380
I'm not saying that this thing is telling the truth.
01:32:17.600
I'm not saying that he was hallucinating or anything.
01:32:19.740
It's just whether or not the information that he got was the truth.
01:32:25.180
And how truthful it is, yeah, because it's like nine truths and one lie is almost a whole
01:32:32.120
But if there's a fundamental lie in there somewhere, then it derails the entire thing.
01:32:44.000
You know, I guess it wouldn't have been fallen at this point, or maybe when they weren't
01:32:49.420
But because it wasn't created by God, it's imperfect.
01:32:53.540
And what ends up happening is it becomes, over time, it degrades and falls apart and gets
01:32:59.440
And so basically, what would have been, you know, within the past decade or two decades,
01:33:06.280
this thing was saying, yeah, as of right now, it's a complete shit show.
01:33:10.020
And it's all backed up, which is interesting that you should say that, because it's like,
01:33:13.780
remember, you said the line stretches very far.
01:33:15.520
You have to go to the back of the line, and, you know, basically, there's going to come
01:33:20.600
a time where the end scenario will happen when the, I guess, last soul enters, and a lot
01:33:33.340
So he even kind of bolstered, like, the NPC idea.
01:33:37.640
Yeah, as he was saying that, I'm like, how many people do have souls out there?
01:33:40.880
There's so many people on the previous show, either the previous show or the one before
01:33:44.520
that, I can't even keep track, we were talking about people that you speak to, and if you're
01:33:50.560
trying to tell them these greater truths or something even kind of crazy along the conspiracy
01:33:54.500
realm, maybe even about Trump, they're like, you can't tell me that.
01:34:01.700
Like, are you just like a fucking empty vessel?
01:34:03.920
Yeah, because if you can't even entertain this idea without everything falling apart, I got
01:34:13.580
But, so I don't think, like, so I certainly don't look at, like, the Vedic religions and
01:34:21.240
I just think that what ended up happening, and the reason I bring up the Vedics is because
01:34:24.540
they have a very fleshed out idea of what the karmic system is like.
01:34:29.880
And the only thing that I give the Vedic religions a hard time with is, I kind of think that the
01:34:37.620
one-third of angels that rebelled against God, they position themselves as gods amongst
01:34:44.740
I think those are kind of your, and look, if you're an ethereal, spiritual Elohim, you
01:34:58.840
If you're teaching me alchemy, which is the manipulation of the realm that I exist in
01:35:04.340
on a fundamental building block level, or if you're teaching me numerology, if you're
01:35:08.800
teaching me astrology, how to do things when the stars align and, you know, during the
01:35:13.240
spring equinox or the, you know, the winter solstice, da-da-da-da-da, it's like, you're
01:35:20.160
But then to give that edge to mankind, it's like, we fucking suck and we're fallible.
01:35:23.620
So I don't blame anybody for being like, good God, this thing is telling me some real
01:35:28.820
And we went from sticks and mud huts to all of a sudden a megalithic civilization off
01:35:37.160
I think the only deviation that I make consistently is the nature of these entities.
01:35:42.960
They're telling you that they're your creators and that's fucked.
01:35:47.840
But I do think that if you read the Bible, there is a lot of precedent for God, the father,
01:35:54.060
is incorporating the views of his creations into what he's going to do.
01:35:59.380
So you can see this in, what is it, Job, right?
01:36:05.120
Is it the book of Job where he is, or is it Lot?
01:36:07.760
I'm getting, no, Lot is whose wife turned into a pillar of salt, right?
01:36:11.400
Job is who is advocating on behalf of basically the city of Sodom and Gomorrah.
01:36:25.580
Job was the guy that was tested by the devil when, you know, had his, I think he had his
01:36:29.320
wife taken from, his kids taken from, and basically just put through the ringer and never lost
01:36:34.360
So Lot, when they escape Sodom and Gomorrah, his wife, well, he's told her not to turn
01:36:40.000
around and look back, and his wife does, and she turns into a pillar of salt.
01:36:42.500
But he is arguing with God, not arguing with God, but he's like petitioning God on behalf
01:36:49.180
He's like, if there's 20 righteous men in this city, will you strike it down?
01:36:59.600
Or if you look into the book of Enoch, where the archangels are looking at what's happening
01:37:04.480
on earth, and all of the corruption that the fallen are spreading, you know, having offspring,
01:37:09.620
the Nephilim, and doing all this shit, teaching mankind all this fucked up crap.
01:37:13.340
They're going to God in the very beginning of the book, and they're like, yo, how long
01:37:18.260
And God's like, yeah, I guess you're probably right.
01:37:21.520
So God's like, all right, Enoch, go and tell these motherfuckers their time is up.
01:37:24.640
So over and over again, there's like this incorporation.
01:37:27.200
God is willing to allow his creation to have say in the way things go.
01:37:31.840
So it's not out of the realm of possibilities to me that God would have maybe commissioned
01:37:36.600
the angels to build a karmic system for whatever reason.
01:37:41.940
So I think what she saw was probably a glimpse of some, you know, real reality.
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That there's a narrative about the karmic system, and it fucking freaks me out a little
01:38:55.560
bit because it's basically like some entities have created this system to hijack us and keep
01:39:05.420
And it's the idea that like they're looshing off us constantly.
01:39:09.580
We're not meant to be back here over and over again.
01:39:15.440
Like if I did it and I'm like fucking nailed it, like why would I do this again?
01:39:19.360
Well, that's on top of the Sumerian tablets, I believe.
01:39:22.760
You got, you know, the Anunnaki and Enki and Enlu and basically they trapped you.
01:39:28.640
Basically, you had Enlu who was like super against even creating humanity in their image.
01:39:33.960
And then you had Enki who was like, yeah, let's create them, but we're going to get
01:39:38.980
But basically, we're just like we're slaves on a prison planet at that point.
01:39:46.160
And I mean, I think that you can look at it that way.
01:39:48.440
We kind of just touched on that in a couple episodes ago.
01:39:51.380
But I think that, you know, it all depends on the nature of how you look at this reality.
01:39:56.780
And if you think that so God is God is omnipresent, right?
01:40:08.680
And to take it all the way back to Plato and, you know, you got the one, then the noose,
01:40:13.400
then the world soul, and then the physical world.
01:40:15.220
But basically, we're all just light emanating from God.
01:40:19.800
That means that literally, I mean, are we separate from God or are we conjoined with God?
01:40:24.740
And I'm not one of those people that says, oh, I am God or we are God.
01:40:29.660
But I think that, you know, a lot of people, they make the distinction that God is separate
01:40:35.880
And I think that you kind of touched on it a little bit earlier.
01:40:38.580
Whenever you are in meditation or you do psychedelics or anything like that, you have,
01:40:43.500
or don't even have to be in, like, it could be on a normal, any day experience that you
01:40:47.860
hear that sound in the back of your mind that's always, like, trying to guide you.
01:40:51.420
And I think that maybe that's the God part, our connection to God, right?
01:40:59.940
That's why we're so interested in learning about all these past life regressions and near
01:41:04.420
death experiences and stuff, because it's like, you know, it kind of shatters your illusion
01:41:09.260
of the world a little bit, because it kind of all is one giant illusion.
01:41:13.480
If you really think about it, like, if you look into, like, like particles, like particles,
01:41:18.180
protons, neutrons, electrons, and all that shit, and then you break it down to,
01:41:21.420
to the atom, and then the even smaller, which is a quark.
01:41:24.420
A quark is the tiniest measurable thing that you can possibly measure.
01:41:28.060
And whenever they went and identified what actually makes up a quark, it's literally nothing.
01:41:33.820
So what you're made up is made up of is nothing, except for the only thing they could identify
01:41:41.420
And so, like, that's the light that is emanating.
01:41:44.500
A holographic universe kind of a, you know, an ideology.
01:41:48.640
And it's such a, I mean, it's an astute metaphor, right?
01:41:51.700
Like, when people say, I mean, we, we, we talk shit about the people that say, like,
01:42:01.000
Because it's kind of like, it is, it's reductive, but it's true in a way.
01:42:06.560
It's just like through our limited gay knowledge.
01:42:09.180
Cause that, cause really I can't look at it as like a caricature.
01:42:11.980
I can't look at it any other way except for like this mushy, soft, pink bodied retard
01:42:18.280
who then creates grand theft auto five and goes, Oh, you know what I mean?
01:42:24.340
It's like fucking almost dude, almost, but not quite.
01:42:27.480
But even the idea of like, um, you know, this thing of like, God is within all of us.
01:42:32.880
But then the, the lie that the serpent sold in the garden was that you can be as gods.
01:42:37.880
And it's like these things, these spiritual entities, you know, the Nakash, whatever the
01:42:44.100
case may be, they, one thing that I'm pretty confident of is they will use truth.
01:42:49.740
And then like that one deviation, that is the very important lie.
01:42:53.600
You would not be able to use that against us, especially in the, in the case of like
01:42:58.780
And if there wasn't like a lot of head nodding, most of the way there, like, yeah, that checks
01:43:06.000
And then there's somewhere in there is an integral lie that fucks everything up.
01:43:12.180
Uh, the idea of reincarnation, I know it's like, it's almost like anti-Christian, but there
01:43:20.720
There's too much religion around the world or just like, uh, myths around the world that point
01:43:27.040
And, and you yourself, Jonathan, you're a past life regressionist.
01:43:30.240
So you have firsthand testimony of people like guiding them through this.
01:43:37.200
And I don't think that that when, when people, you know, the, the average kind of, I don't,
01:43:44.480
Um, cause I don't want to just say the average Christian, but like, I don't know the average
01:43:49.720
normie who happens to be Christian will just dismiss that as either being a lie or being a
01:43:57.340
But to me, I'm like, I just don't understand enough about like, is there room in the conversation?
01:44:00.800
Do they necessarily have to have come back exactly?
01:44:03.400
Or what if you just carry somehow through some way that I don't fucking understand the memories
01:44:09.020
of somebody else or, or the, the impressions of somebody else or the, the emotions, just
01:44:14.460
You know, cause when I look at a child, that's like, I had a fucking mom and a dad and I had
01:44:19.140
a dog and a sister and I died because we had a house on the ocean and I drown.
01:44:23.720
And then they go and they find out cause this kid won't shut the fuck up about his parents
01:44:28.760
And then they go and find out that, Oh shit, there is a place in this location on the beach
01:44:33.320
where there was a family who lost a little boy.
01:44:35.540
I go, I'm, I can't call that kid a liar, right?
01:44:39.440
You know, but, but to then jump to the conclusion of, um, okay, so they died and they came back
01:44:46.460
I'm like, I don't know that I have to go all the way there either.
01:44:49.440
Let's say, you know, and I'm not saying I even believe this, but like a soul fragment,
01:44:53.600
what if you could somehow carry a fragmentation of another person somehow?
01:44:59.720
I, I, I spoke to my daughter last night about this cause my daughter's six and she's getting
01:45:05.120
to the age, I guess, where, I don't know, she's understanding death a little bit more.
01:45:09.320
And she's asking about like, well, when I get older, I guess I'll have kids and, but then
01:45:14.780
And then when I die, then nobody will, I'll just be gone and no one will remember me.
01:45:18.660
And I was like, well, you know, we think that there's an afterlife.
01:45:20.900
I explained that to her, but I was like, you don't die though.
01:45:23.780
Especially like when you pass on your bloodline, when you have children, there's something very
01:45:30.060
And obviously the elites talk about this a lot and our ancestors found it vastly important
01:45:36.160
And I explained to her that, you know, in, in her blood right now runs my blood, her mother's
01:45:41.920
blood, my parents' blood, their parents' blood, a very small fragment of it.
01:45:48.140
Like if, if, if we had pictures back then, I'm sure my daughter would look like, I don't
01:45:52.040
know, some ancient relative that I've had at some point because they just kind of repeat
01:45:57.960
But something about that is like living on in you, physically in you, in your blood,
01:46:02.360
in your DNA, what you are, what constitutes you.
01:46:05.060
So when you're talking about the past life, I want to hear a little bit about that.
01:46:09.540
When you're talking about the past life regression, it's like, is that me or is that something
01:46:15.480
Because these traits are innate in us, you know?
01:46:18.500
We've gotten to the point where we believe that scientifically speaking, you can pass down
01:46:23.480
Was that the only kind of memory that can, it has to be genetic?
01:46:29.220
What if you're born close to a place where a situation, I don't know.
01:46:33.460
Um, but I definitely am not dismissing any of that shit.
01:46:36.920
So, um, I would, I just looked it up just out of curiosity.
01:46:39.940
But, um, when we're talking about blood, you know, like, so we already know that water
01:46:46.240
Um, and if you look at blood, I mean, so you have plasma in your blood, um, the plasma
01:46:56.100
And you could technically just kind of look at blood as if it's kind of structured water.
01:47:00.940
And maybe that's what holds the ancestral memories and stuff like that.
01:47:05.220
And so whenever you go into a, you know, you get hypnotized, you go to a past life regression
01:47:09.240
and you're experiencing something that like you had no foreknowledge of, you never even
01:47:13.820
thought about this before, but for some reason you're experiencing it as if not only as if
01:47:18.880
you were there watching from the outside, you're experiencing it as if you are there experiencing
01:47:26.040
And, and it is so fascinating, the details that come up from it.
01:47:29.580
As a matter of fact, um, just the other day we had, uh, we, I did a past life regression
01:47:34.220
on this, uh, on this, uh, girl named Asia and it was so fascinating dude, because there she was,
01:47:40.920
she was like in this desert and she was looking out at a bunch of people and she was just standing
01:47:45.380
And I asked her, you know, what she's wearing and stuff like that.
01:47:48.020
And she named some of the jewelry and, and, you know, and, and what she's wearing in, in,
01:47:52.180
in, uh, she was wearing like this cuff link, like long style, like halfway upper forearm
01:47:59.420
And, um, and I was like, Oh, um, can you describe that a little bit?
01:48:06.200
And, um, and, uh, and also she was wearing like this crown, um, like a, she called it
01:48:11.920
like a headpiece or something like that, but it was basically a crown.
01:48:14.460
It was gold and it had, uh, like a red Ruby at the top of it.
01:48:18.180
And so anyway, long story short, she goes through this past life regression and she finds out
01:48:22.740
that she's like, she's the daughter to this Egyptian King.
01:48:27.480
And then her parents, they ended up passing the mantle onto her.
01:48:30.600
So now she's the, she's the queen of this land, wherever she was.
01:48:34.780
And, um, so we, we started looking up a little bit afterward.
01:48:38.980
Like I think she was 20, 21, something like that.
01:48:41.580
Um, and, uh, we, we were asking her, you know, uh, after where we, we started looking
01:48:47.020
up the details and we looked up that very specific, um, uh, bracelet that she was mentioning in
01:48:52.380
that past life and sure as shit, like it is Egyptian, like it's an Egyptian piece of jewelry
01:48:58.480
And then we asked, you know, um, not to get into the tarot, but, um, then we, you know,
01:49:03.320
we, we found that, you know, she was wearing the gold crown with, uh, with a red Ruby.
01:49:07.380
And so we ended up pulling a tarot card and would you believe it?
01:49:14.620
I believe the queen of pentacles and that queen of pentacles that was pulled for that
01:49:18.520
specific episode was wearing a, uh, a gold crown with a bunch of red rubies all around
01:49:26.740
And, and so like, but there's lessons to be learned from these past life regressions.
01:49:31.280
And that's real quick, not to cut you off, dude, as far as that goes, you know, we were
01:49:35.080
talking about NPCs and, and such, you know, I feel like we, I feel like everyone's got
01:49:39.740
a soul, you know, just in my experience, as far as like, not necessarily looking into
01:49:44.020
the esoteric or into religion or into, you know, these interesting things that we seem
01:49:48.460
to, uh, get into, uh, I don't believe I didn't have a soul.
01:49:52.320
I just wasn't looking at life the way I do now, you know?
01:49:55.100
And so that's where we get back to the perspective thing.
01:49:57.760
But as far as these, uh, past life regressions and I could be wrong.
01:50:01.840
I don't think there's any way for either of us to fully know exactly what's going on
01:50:05.820
with these, but I think at least the way I look at it is, is that these past life aggressions
01:50:11.340
are, or could be just a life that we can look at, not necessarily that it's your past
01:50:17.180
life, you know, and that maybe was passed down somehow, but you know, it was just a message
01:50:23.740
And so some people, maybe their life seems insignificant or, you know, but there's still
01:50:30.740
And so these NPCs, you know, if you want to call them that, I feel like they're here
01:50:37.260
They're, they're an essential piece of the puzzle.
01:50:40.940
And I think that, you know, as far as people having past lives, because I can't tell you
01:50:45.120
how many people have had a past life regression where they were Cleopatra or they were clean
01:50:51.000
It seems like everybody, so many people are reincarnated royalty.
01:50:55.180
Nobody is, or not, I wouldn't say nobody, but not very many people are reincarnated as
01:51:02.420
You know, like that's who I was in a past life.
01:51:10.580
You know, it's like, nobody's telling that story.
01:51:14.940
Let me actually interject here, because I think that what's going on is, is that the majority
01:51:20.280
of these past life regressions that, you know, that you hear about, they're going to be the
01:51:25.940
But as somebody who administrates or who administers these, these sessions, I can tell you, and
01:51:31.620
Dolores Cannon had a, had a term for this back in the day too.
01:51:34.960
She called them digging potatoes lives, where it's basically just a boring old life.
01:51:39.160
Maybe you were just a farm hand and you ended up, you know, like your, your parents were
01:51:43.260
raising you and then you had kids of your own and there was nothing really spectacular.
01:51:46.520
I said some very funny terminology, digging potato lives.
01:51:50.980
Cause I just imagined like, well, we're okay, fine.
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Yeah, they're just a little bit older or maybe they had kids or, you know, my back hurts.
01:53:10.420
And, and, and you'll get a little bit of that, you know?
01:53:13.460
And, um, and, and I think that I would say probably half of the sessions that I administer
01:53:18.400
are just digging, digging potatoes lives where nothing really special is going on.
01:53:28.220
Maybe they got some chickens they need to tend to or whatever.
01:53:30.580
Um, but the, the lesson lies within the story, not so much about what's going on within material
01:53:36.660
So how's your relationship with your mother in this?
01:53:40.600
Was there something, some kind of accident that happened to you in this life?
01:53:44.480
And what's even crazier is, is that we take them all the way from point a, you know, wherever
01:53:49.420
they are in their lives that they jumped to, um, all the way to the end.
01:53:54.020
So we go through the death process and that is probably the most fascinating part about a
01:53:59.140
past life regression in general, because what they experience after their life is like,
01:54:11.880
Cause the brain takes a little bit longer to stop working.
01:54:15.080
And almost all of them, they all say, Oh, I'm just floating above my body.
01:54:23.360
I can, you know, float and fly like a bird and there's nothing burdening me and stuff like
01:54:28.360
And so, and then, so we get the perspective like the, the, and that's why Dolores can
01:54:34.800
Like that's where you're trying to get a lot of this information from is the higher self.
01:54:38.460
And where that comes from is that whenever you die, you float above your body.
01:54:42.380
And it's basically that perspective that you're looking back at the past life and you're,
01:54:46.700
you're, you're, uh, basically rendering the, the ideas or basically all the things that
01:55:01.060
Which one do you think is, is more likely in your experience, you know, dealing with these
01:55:05.040
people, um, that the, the, the phrase or the word you is applicable here, meaning what
01:55:14.160
What did what, and then what happened to you next and where are you now?
01:55:17.760
Um, or do we, is it likely in some sort of state of mind, we can view lives that existed
01:55:29.240
And does that necessarily mean it has to be us?
01:55:34.100
Well, you're looking at it through the eyes of that character, whether that was you, or
01:55:42.700
However, you want to look at that, it was a specific life that you needed to see and
01:55:49.980
So like if somebody like you were kind of talking about earlier, you don't want to go into a,
01:55:53.900
into a mushroom trip depressed, you know, like, and so if that's what you got going on in
01:55:58.820
your life and you go to this, you know, you get hypnotized and you go to a past life
01:56:02.620
regression, maybe you'll see that, um, maybe you were alive during the great depression
01:56:08.600
And it kind of aligns and it'll teach you and it shows you that because it's trying
01:56:12.480
to teach you how to get up out of this depressive funk.
01:56:16.520
Like, I wonder if that's even a function thing.
01:56:19.420
Like, like, I think that's really interesting because what if we do have the ability to view,
01:56:25.880
you know, and, and, you know, you'll see it from a person for a first person point of
01:56:29.620
So for all intents and purposes, it's you in that moment, your consciousness is there peering
01:56:34.420
And so what, I guess, what better way is there to describe you, you are the consciousness
01:56:39.140
peering through the eyes of this, you know, corporeal form.
01:56:44.160
So in that way, I could definitely see how you then becomes a functioning part of the
01:56:48.800
Um, maybe it is something that we have the ability to do, and maybe it even makes sense
01:56:54.560
that we would then be able to see or be shown potentially something that will help us through
01:57:01.580
Well, going on this, going by this kind of logic, like, what if it is all bloodline stuff?
01:57:06.420
And, and, you know, we were making jokes about people not having boring past lives.
01:57:10.920
Some do, maybe they just went down the wrong bloodline trail.
01:57:13.780
But I think somewhere along the line, I mean, my, I'm Puerto Rican, but some of my relatives
01:57:19.920
I mean, this, I, I could be related to just about anybody when, when you really extrapolated
01:57:26.700
So sure, if a Kang or whatever was in my bloodline at some point, it's not unfeasible that, yeah,
01:57:34.220
I, maybe I would have access to that if I was, if I were to travel down this road, um,
01:57:39.620
would I have access to someone else that is in, not in my bloodline?
01:57:45.700
And this is where you start to try and figure out where is consciousness housed?
01:57:55.360
Is there some kind of compartment that allowed that, you know, the door opens up and allows
01:58:03.380
Um, there are a number of studies out there that, that I, I would, you know, say that they
01:58:09.800
kind of prove that consciousness exists outside of the body.
01:58:13.060
You know, we only have view of like 1% of the light spectrum and the way in which, you know,
01:58:19.700
it's like your boy Tesla said, everything is, um, energy, frequency, and vibration.
01:58:24.520
Well, if that's true, then the frequency, the energy, and the vibration that we are experiencing
01:58:31.640
in this physical reality is just that, like we're, we have a hard time perceiving of what's
01:58:38.520
Like we can't see wifi, we know it's there, right?
01:58:41.420
Like we, there's, we can't see, you know, um, a lot of different, you know, vibrations that
01:58:47.140
are always happening all around you and yet they're there and they're always working.
01:58:51.260
And I would suggest that the spiritual world is no different.
01:58:54.060
And your conscious is actually no different from that either.
01:58:57.100
And so whenever you're pulling this stuff, some people say, all right, are you pulling
01:59:02.380
it from what is called or what is commonly called the Akashic records, which is basically
01:59:06.700
just a library that houses all the information of everything that has ever existed?
01:59:12.700
But whenever you go into this line of thought, you have to kick logic out because logic is
01:59:19.600
And I know that is like completely going against everything we've ever been taught in, in life
01:59:24.940
ever, which is why kids are able to perceive a lot of this shit.
01:59:31.880
This is what, this is what we were just talking about.
01:59:33.600
It's like, yes, throw the logic out the window because you were now operating in a realm
01:59:39.680
David said in the forest, I'd say more like the fucking ocean where like whatever, if
01:59:43.760
you believe in gravity, this shit doesn't even apply.
01:59:47.200
This is, if you know how to swim, you're fucked.
01:59:49.020
Same thing is, is when we're dealing with this other spiritual realm, we have no clue what's
01:59:54.560
We can't even begin to apply logic because it doesn't, it's just, it doesn't operate in
02:00:02.220
Logic might as well be a synonym for just navigating this physical realm.
02:00:07.260
Only this physical realm, because outside of that, like I've heard something interesting
02:00:11.420
of people that, um, astral projector go to like different, you know, uh, remote viewing
02:00:15.660
and things that actually your focus is what determines your ability to move forward in
02:00:20.780
a, in a, in a location if you're there in a corporeal form.
02:00:24.880
Because you'd be trying to, and I've heard people describe that.
02:00:30.300
If you just look at a particular spot log enough, eventually you'll be there.
02:00:34.100
I'm like, that's fucking a totally different modality than what we have here.
02:00:38.380
Well, and that's what happens within the past life regressions too.
02:00:41.140
So if somebody is at a certain point in their life, let's say it's a Tuesday and they're,
02:00:44.860
I don't know, a Tuesday in March and they just so happen to be 30 years old, for example.
02:00:50.120
Um, what happens is, is that, all right, well, we've already experienced whatever there is,
02:00:56.960
And, um, and, and like, so what we're going to do is we're going to fast forward and we're
02:01:02.300
going to fast forward through time and see whatever happens next.
02:01:05.260
Something, a day that something is happening that is very important in this life that we're
02:01:10.520
And, uh, it's always something, you know, uh, it's, it's, it's evolved, right?
02:01:16.540
Like, you know, just as you go in the future of any kind of life, you're going to see things
02:01:21.620
Maybe your kids get a little older, you get a little older, maybe your job changes or
02:01:25.960
And, and it's, and it's crazy because all you have to do is just focus on that.
02:01:30.560
You just think about that and you're vaulted toward this futuristic version of the life
02:01:38.040
And so, but everybody experiences something very different within past lives.
02:01:41.880
Not all lives are even here on earth, which is kind of crazy, dude.
02:01:45.480
Like, like I personally, I've had past life regressions where I was just like this watcher
02:01:53.200
And, and if the people knew that they could call on me, I could help them, but I couldn't
02:01:59.300
And I got frustrated because people forgot who I was.
02:02:02.080
And so I went over to who I thought was like the manager of whatever my job was, which
02:02:07.920
was basically like this guy that was sitting in like a throne, like a, like a, like a game,
02:02:13.200
a chair or a game of Thrones chair style thing.
02:02:16.040
Not necessarily with the swords, but you know what I mean?
02:02:18.160
And, um, and he like the big beard, he had one eye.
02:02:24.520
And, um, and I was like, look, you know, the people forgot that I can, that I can help
02:02:29.660
You know, they forgot that, that, that I exist.
02:02:35.980
And he goes, all right, well, what's basically like, what's your, what's your plan with that?
02:02:39.200
And I said, you know, I'd really want to be able to help them and just kind of like
02:02:45.820
And as soon as I said that Odin or whoever that character was, he took his staff, he
02:02:53.460
And then as soon as he touched my head, bang, I was coming out of a womb, like as a baby
02:03:02.780
But what's even crazier and like, look, I love the past lives.
02:03:06.940
Like you can experience so much wild shit, but what's even the best part is, is that what
02:03:12.340
I have, um, uh, the people do that come to me for a past life regression, I have them
02:03:17.020
write down a, like a list of questions, five, 10 questions.
02:03:20.100
And I just say, well, what questions, if you were in front of God, let's just say, if you
02:03:25.060
were in front of God, what are 10 questions that you'd want to ask them?
02:03:28.760
And, um, which is basically she, uh, Dolores said that these are the questions that you're
02:03:35.560
And because that version of you, it's not in this 3d material reality.
02:03:43.960
And so we'll ask the questions and dude, the questions that have befuddled you and bewildered
02:03:52.240
I ask you this question whenever, you know, your, your past life has already gone through
02:03:58.840
I asked you this question, you know, it instantly, you know it like every single time you already
02:04:05.940
And so that's like the, the point is, is that we all kind of know what we're supposed
02:04:11.620
to do because we all have that, that, you know, the kingdom of heaven within, we all have
02:04:21.480
Well, my camera's all screwed up, but that goes back to, uh, what I was telling you.
02:04:26.940
Uh, what I was talking about before with the whole, uh, tarot and, and, uh, clairvoyant
02:04:33.080
It's like a lot of the times it's about shit that you kind of already know.
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And maybe that statement doesn't resonate with a lot of people.
02:05:42.600
And I would say that's only because whatever it is that's moving you, that's telling you,
02:05:49.160
Or maybe you have a tremendous amount of doubt.
02:05:50.720
It's probably doubt and fear usually because I think what plagues us as human beings is
02:05:55.360
within us, we do have a calling, but outside of us, our perception of our own selves is
02:06:00.760
so limited and so negative in so many ways, right?
02:06:05.560
Like if you have within you a calling, then it's almost automatic that your response will
02:06:15.480
And that is totally the wrong way of looking at this.
02:06:17.660
If you're burdened with too much who the fuck am I and too much doubt and too much fear,
02:06:23.460
But if you can, if you're a little bit better at that, then I think you would find most of
02:06:27.600
your interactions with clairvoyance or tarot card readers are only telling you shit that
02:06:34.300
You're just not, which is almost insulting because then you're allowing, like I allowed
02:06:38.740
a homosexual in a fez to tell me what I already knew.
02:06:41.640
And it's like, damn, bro, like you already knew that.
02:06:49.420
And when you are talking to the higher self, like you said, it's something you already kind
02:06:53.080
of understand, but it's like, it's like when we have trouble taking advice from somebody
02:06:58.920
else or taking our own advice rather, you know, but yet it's so easy to give someone
02:07:03.660
And so talking to the higher self is almost yourself giving yourself advice.
02:07:09.000
And then it's so much easier to be like, oh, that's something I told myself.
02:07:12.400
So obviously that's something that I probably should listen to.
02:07:15.560
And a lot of people get in their own way because of that thing that is always talking to you
02:07:22.680
And, and, and I think that it kind of stems from, you know, maybe your childhood, maybe,
02:07:27.080
um, you were, you rebelled against your parents.
02:07:30.500
And so like, there's this thing that you have against your dad because he was just an asshole
02:07:35.120
your whole life, always telling you what to do.
02:07:37.120
But that thing in your mind, you perceive it as it telling you something to do.
02:07:41.320
I'm not going to listen to you just like I didn't listen to my dad.
02:07:43.940
And so now this guiding spirit or whatever that is inside of you, always trying to lead
02:07:51.620
And that's why you got a lot of people who like turn to be like drug addicts or they,
02:07:55.840
or whatever the, the, the, the, the black narrow road that nobody wants to go down.
02:08:01.480
Like that's, I feel like that's kind of born whenever you don't listen to that intuitive
02:08:06.920
part inside of you, you know, because you label it as something else other than yourself.
02:08:11.780
It's, it's a hard thing to navigate because I do believe like, as soon as you start talking,
02:08:17.120
like, um, I don't know, like, uh, like, uh, uh, what's the guy's name that was on fucking
02:08:24.400
As soon as you start talking like Terrence Howard, I'm like, you need to fucking be grounded
02:08:30.000
Um, and I am a huge advocate of humbling myself.
02:08:32.900
It's why I constantly refer to myself as a retard and I, and there's like, there's got
02:08:36.600
to be this way to like, know that that's true in one hand, you ain't shit, but on the
02:08:42.860
other hand, you're here for a reason and you have a job or a mission to execute.
02:08:50.580
And I think that that probably is meant to be juggled.
02:08:54.220
You're not supposed to forsaken that thing that grounds you and says like, Hey, this is
02:08:57.800
not all about you because, uh, you're a fallible moron.
02:09:02.040
Who's easily corrupted, but also don't get it twisted.
02:09:07.260
And it's very fucking important that you do what you were put here to do.
02:09:12.060
It's just a fascinating rabbit hole to go down and really chew on.
02:09:16.860
Um, obviously the name of the show here is Nephilim death squad.
02:09:19.960
So, uh, the story of the Nephilim Genesis six, four, uh, well, it's the fallen angels.
02:09:25.420
They come, they, uh, reproduce with the, the human females, thus creating the Nephilim.
02:09:32.480
The Nephilim create the Raphaim, so on and so forth, the Gibbereem.
02:09:36.160
And there, you know, there's classifications that get smaller eventually to the point where,
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uh, I mean, there's, there's different schools of thought on the seed war type of thing,
02:09:45.000
which kind of reminded me as well, which your little seed in the, in your mouth, turning
02:09:54.460
Um, but I, I, I wanted, one of the schools of thought is that like, well, you know, the
02:09:59.680
Nephilim DNA is so mixed up or, or the fallen angel DNA is so mixed up within humankind that
02:10:08.380
But if I'm thinking about this, uh, this idea of past life aggression, and for some reason,
02:10:14.500
my brain just can't get off these, like their railroad tracks and your blood is the railroad
02:10:20.300
track to where you can visit and what you have, what you're able to contact all the way back down.
02:10:27.640
Well, so God being the creator, so you can always get back to that.
02:10:31.940
But if your bloodline is mixed with XYZ, some sort of fallen angel, some sort of whatever,
02:10:37.660
I mean, you can probably come in contact with that stuff as well.
02:10:41.960
I think that that is directly in line and there's a lot of these things, but it also
02:10:47.020
brings up this racist thought of mine where I'm like, should we be race mixing?
02:10:52.640
It puts us, it's, it's, it's kind of fucked, but it, it puts us in like, all right, like,
02:11:00.920
Like I kind of know what my ancestors here, what kind of bullshit I was dealing with, what
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I've now spread my genes to the other side of the world and they have their own set of
02:12:14.800
bullshit that goes all the way back to their fallen angel and then their God, the God above
02:12:20.460
And it's like, damn, we're making things very confusing.
02:12:22.800
This idea for diversity, this push, the push for diversity is almost like, if what I'm saying
02:12:31.160
is true, what I'm theorizing is true, the push for diversity is diabolical because it
02:12:34.640
really doesn't let you get a footing on where the hell you came from, even if you went to
02:12:40.980
Imagine a person, I don't know, a mixed race person.
02:12:47.380
They are getting from Mao's dynasty or from some kind of ancient Chinese dynasty.
02:12:54.700
They can get a regression from that or you can get something from ancient Egypt.
02:13:03.800
Am I being bukkake by my ancestors and the ancestors of the world?
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I do understand that, but the thing is, you know, bringing it back to Plato, if everything
02:13:18.580
emanates from the one and everything emanates from God, everything is God, then does it
02:13:23.480
even matter, you know, if you're like, uh, interbreeding with races and stuff like that?
02:13:29.840
If so, my son is definitely fucked because he's half white and half Brazilian.
02:13:35.920
But look, Puerto Rican is a mix of, it's just a mutt mix of disgusting and worse things.
02:13:40.520
So, so, uh, this is worth mentioning here, uh, as Azel in the book of Enoch, uh, had his
02:13:49.620
eye removed for his rebellion, uh, and he was a watcher, which is fascinating because I,
02:13:58.000
I look at all these different, um, entities, Norse mythology and everything.
02:14:04.420
I think they just get different names through different cultures.
02:14:06.600
Um, and I just find that a very fascinating correlation, right?
02:14:10.620
Because Odin obviously has his one eye that he gave up, uh, for, for information, for wisdom,
02:14:15.740
for knowledge, uh, is why Odin gave his eye up.
02:14:18.780
And, uh, and you know, so my, my theory is always like these Greek pantheons, Norse, Norse
02:14:24.520
pantheons, they are of these one third of, of, of angels that were cast out of heaven, the
02:14:32.840
Um, but yeah, he, he had his eye removed and he was one of the watchers, which is a lot
02:14:38.760
So in that experience, I'm not saying that that's what you're fucking, I'm not going
02:14:47.840
So the idea that you were a watcher among the watchers, uh, and then, uh, and that was
02:14:52.720
a lot of the plight of the watchers too, was that they were, you know, looking and observing,
02:14:57.060
but not being able to interact or not being called on or whatever.
02:15:00.840
So the idea that you would then turn to Odin, which I think your interpretation of it being
02:15:07.740
Uh, but I just wonder if Odin is, is interchangeable with Azazel.
02:15:11.100
In fact, what I would then suspect is, could you find out what Azazel gave to the people
02:15:21.140
Because they, they always give you something metallurgy, whatever the hell the thing is.
02:15:24.460
And does that correlate with what Odin would have given his followers as far as knowledge
02:15:30.840
I wonder, uh, but the way that I interpreted that, like whenever I was seeing what I thought
02:15:38.180
Like if you're looking, if you ever worked in a restaurant, right?
02:15:40.600
Like I kind of saw myself as maybe I was like a front of house manager and I saw Odin as
02:15:45.540
the general manager, but like, God would be the owner, right?
02:15:50.500
And middle management at that point, dude, I think you're crushing it too with that analogy
02:15:54.660
because I, I, I've become very comfortable with the idea that the systems that we as
02:15:59.480
human beings put in place on this realm that we inhabit are not new.
02:16:05.960
These systems, because we're made in their image are ones that we emulate from them.
02:16:10.700
It's intuitive or whatever on a spiritual level, it's ingrained in us, whether it's genetically
02:16:17.420
But I don't think, I think I used to be very much against the idea that heavenly realms
02:16:23.580
would be anything that we could discern by comparison of our reality.
02:16:31.120
I think that the systems, especially the systems, especially the judicial systems and things
02:16:38.960
They are just our own version of something that already exists on, on high.
02:16:44.640
It's the same thing when you look at the fractal nature of reality as above, so below, from
02:16:49.620
the micro to the macro, you can find the Fibonacci sequence, you know, on a, on a pine cone and
02:17:02.540
And I also think that I used to be very against the idea of like God having any aspect of him
02:17:08.640
that would be comparable to us, meaning like a man, I used to scoff at the idea of like
02:17:14.420
I would say certainly that's not what's going on.
02:17:16.840
And I don't think that there's like a man in the clouds, but I'm like, if I were to ever
02:17:21.340
be able to look upon God in any version of what I pass away or anything, I don't think
02:17:28.540
I would be surprised to find that he bears resemblance to us in any, or we bear resemblance
02:17:32.260
to him and maybe I'd only be able to look upon one aspect of him or something like that.
02:17:36.840
But that some aspect of God is very, very relatable.
02:17:42.240
Even, even I think in, in God, uh, fatherhood is very, like I, I began to understand a little
02:17:47.520
bit more where I used to scoff at things, biblical notions, and then I look at them now from
02:17:52.540
the point of view of a father and I'm like, fucking that checks out.
02:17:56.660
So, um, I don't know, man, it's just, I look at that and I think whatever your experiences
02:18:01.160
were, especially when that, when, in that one, I think that is probably, um, that's
02:18:08.340
I genuinely believe, I don't think that's even like a, I don't know what you fucking
02:18:12.580
saw, but you saw something and it was pretty cool.
02:18:17.380
And I think that, you know, and I try not to get too hung up on, oh, I was a watcher
02:18:25.260
No, but I do think in those experiences, your impression counts for a lot, whatever you
02:18:29.020
intuit, whatever you feel about that, I think that counts for a lot.
02:18:31.900
I mean, especially in a realm where you don't have a fucking, a pen and a pad and a microscope
02:18:35.740
to examine things on a, on a, on a minutia level, your impression is what you intuit is,
02:18:41.580
is about the most information you're going to get there besides what you see.
02:18:44.780
Well, and that's kind of what I was thinking too, is that, you know, I'm, I'm looking down
02:18:49.900
I mean, look at a lot of people today, there's a lot of people today are not spiritual at all.
02:18:54.560
They don't even want to get into any of this because they have this worldview of
02:18:58.200
reality that like, um, you know, you're, you're kind of just giving in to the physical
02:19:03.340
nature of this reality and you're not so much, um, focused on the spiritual aspect.
02:19:07.900
And there's one thing that I do want to relay on that.
02:19:10.880
Um, we actually, we had this guy on, um, banks, what was his name, Sean?
02:19:18.720
He's like a rapper out of California, but basically this guy, he came on the show and he was like,
02:19:24.020
you know, a lot of people, they, they have dreams, right?
02:19:26.540
And then they, they try and figure out what it means because dreams are weird.
02:19:30.120
Um, so you go to a dream interpreter and in that dream interpretation, you'll be like,
02:19:36.580
Well, what we found out is, is that you can also apply that same concept to reality.
02:19:42.120
So if something crazy happens to you in this reality, then you'll be able to put that
02:19:46.940
instance into a dream interpretation or you, you can check out the symbology of it or whatever,
02:19:51.900
and you can find, all right, well, what is this, what is this trying to teach me?
02:19:56.240
Almost like going through the dream interpretation.
02:19:58.540
And so, um, I actually did one earlier for my wife and she, you know, we, we have a two-year-old
02:20:03.960
son and her heart breaks every time we drop him off at the daycare.
02:20:12.760
And so I was like, all right, well, I'll just use that as an example.
02:20:15.980
And I said, um, all there's actually this website called dream, uh, dream printer, like
02:20:24.260
And it's basically like an AI that deciphers your, your dreams and, you know, gets the meaning
02:20:29.180
And just out of the example, I just typed in my baby is crying for his mama.
02:20:33.320
Every time I drop him off at a daycare and the dream interpretation, I don't need to read
02:20:37.240
the whole thing, but it says your dream about your baby crying for his mama.
02:20:40.760
Every time you drop them off at a daycare is a reflection of your own feelings of separation
02:20:46.300
It is natural to feel worried and guilty about leaving your child in the care of others.
02:20:49.900
Your subconscious mind is processing these emotions and manifesting them in your dream.
02:20:54.100
The crying baby represents your own inner child.
02:20:56.140
So you kind of like, you can apply that in like many different ways.
02:20:59.720
Basically my point is, is that like the nature of our reality, we were, we're starting to kind
02:21:08.400
And one of the ways you can start to understand just how vast it all is, is by looking into
02:21:15.400
past life regressions and near death experiences, not necessarily to say, well, this is the absolute
02:21:21.480
But just understand that like one thing they all have in common with almost every single
02:21:26.720
time somebody had a near death experience, they almost all say, I'm no longer worried of
02:21:33.300
And I'm, I'm like connecting more to my spiritual side because that's what I experienced on that
02:21:47.260
And, um, and also, you know, with, with the psychedelic experiences and, and, and these near
02:21:51.900
death experiences, people have also said that that, that place, whatever they're experiencing
02:21:58.140
And so if you can experience something outside of this reality that feels more real.
02:22:03.300
Then you could look into the dream interpretation as if this is, you know, life is but a dream,
02:22:12.200
I think that, um, given the, the, the lifespan of a human being, you know, barely kissing
02:22:17.720
a hundred years, uh, whatever is on the other side of this is far vaster and, and, uh, and,
02:22:24.160
and you spend a lot more time there, uh, than you do here.
02:22:27.460
This is, this is probably something that once we gain a little bit of, uh, insight,
02:22:34.940
Uh, and I do think it's very important what we do here.
02:22:36.860
I'm not saying that it, I'm not saying that to diminish it, but I could very.
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Much imagined that wherever we go here would be perceived as far more real
02:23:48.980
And that's something that you hear a lot from near-death experiences in particular,
02:23:54.340
but also visions and dreams people will describe going to places.
02:24:02.820
It's like we've been stripped of our understanding of the spiritual realm here in the West,
02:24:05.940
and that makes all of these conversations are incredibly important to have
02:24:09.920
because otherwise we are completely in the dark,
02:24:15.360
in a realm that is much larger than the physical realm.
02:24:21.340
And that is incredibly dangerous if we are to believe that anything inhabits it at all,
02:24:25.640
just because from your baseline, if you have no idea of spiritual realms and religion and things like that,
02:24:38.160
The very first question you have to ask as a human being is like, what are their nature?
02:24:44.640
So conversations like this are, as much as it's fun because we love this information
02:24:51.400
and we love trying to understand and we have a passion for the truth
02:24:54.760
and we're trying to move towards it all the time,
02:24:56.920
I don't think you can downplay the actual importance of it
02:25:03.400
And I guess a lot of us are trying to figure out that map.
02:25:06.600
And we have to bring it in for a landing because we're beyond the two-hour mark.
02:25:10.580
But I do want to say that it is interesting to me that Azazel taught metallurgy,
02:25:19.520
specifically in the way of swords, shields, and armor,
02:25:28.600
Yeah, these are things that – because, you know, and when you have a different –
02:25:33.580
like let's say a pagan mythology, they will often attribute their –
02:25:43.860
Oftentimes, these pagan mythos will attribute their technologies
02:25:52.260
So Odin gifts people many things, blessings and things of that nature,
02:25:58.520
but specifically armor and swords and the knowledge on how to make them.
02:26:02.480
And Azazel taught human beings how to make swords, shields.
02:26:07.540
He taught metallurgy specifically, and in particular, metallurgy surrounding instruments of war.
02:26:14.320
And so that doesn't necessarily mean this is all just wild speculation by a schizophrenic person,
02:26:19.420
but, you know, it's like either what we have here is a repeating character,
02:26:24.280
which other characters will have – like let's say Nimrod to Gilgamesh to Osiris seem to be the same character,
02:26:33.980
especially when you look at Nimrod and Gilgamesh – I mean, I'm sorry, Nimrod and Osiris.
02:26:41.420
You can kind of find their parallels in different cultures.
02:26:49.320
Is there any final thoughts on that, or do we want to do our plugs?
02:26:54.880
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02:28:38.700
And I really appreciate your guys' how you guys look at the world.
02:28:45.420
We're all supposed to experience each other and find out what we have in common, you know?
02:28:59.700
And, you know, to the audience, it just goes to that old thing that we're always talking about.
02:29:17.160
Maybe consider somebody that you know is actually pursuing the truth and isn't just some media puppet, right?
02:29:31.040
Again, Jonathan, Sean, thank you for coming on, man.
02:29:33.900
This is another – it's just – it's always fun because, like, we kind of, like – like, we go back and forth.
02:29:37.960
And we – I get – my brain really gets to delve into places that I wouldn't have otherwise.
02:29:48.540
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